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Title: Tebow for MVP
Post by: njanvi on October 03, 2011, 03:25:01 PM
Hodge is right, dude stinks!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: G_Thang on October 03, 2011, 03:28:37 PM
i havent watched a nfl game since the saints were given a superbowl.  how is his career going?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: njanvi on October 03, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
Not really going. Broncos stink and he still can't get on the field. He's just a great white hope as an "athletic" qb


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on October 04, 2011, 07:36:33 AM
Only problem is that Tebow now plays against NFL elite competition and not the SEC cupcakes. He can forget about running the ball more than 5 times during an NFL game before he gets his clock cleaned.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 04, 2011, 10:00:35 AM
Tebow hasn't been tested, but if you watch footage, his mechanics still seem off.

I don't think he's cut out for the NFL, but I'm no expert.

Apparently he's got enough to get drafted into the NFL.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 06, 2011, 08:50:36 AM
Here's what i don't get.....at the end of last season when he actually got a chance to play his numbers were VERY respectable....only reason i know is I had him on my bench in fantasy football.  Sure he isn't going to sit in the pocket and pick a team apart, but he deserves a better shot than what sorry-ass Denver is giving him.imo.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 06, 2011, 08:59:25 AM
Here's what i don't get.....at the end of last season when he actually got a chance to play his numbers were VERY respectable....only reason i know is I had him on my bench in fantasy football.  Sure he isn't going to sit in the pocket and pick a team apart, but he deserves a better shot than what sorry-ass Denver is giving him.imo.

This aint gonna cut it in the nfl

SEASON   TEAM   GP    CMP   ATT   CMP%   YDS   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
2010 DEN             9     41    82    50.6     654       7.98    5    50     3      0   82.1


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 06, 2011, 09:17:04 AM
This aint gonna cut it in the nfl

SEASON   TEAM   GP    CMP   ATT   CMP%   YDS   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
2010 DEN             9     41    82    50.6     654       7.98    5    50     3      0   82.1

For a full season, I agree.....but look at what many other rookies have done in their first season.  Didn't Peyton throw about 25 or 30 int's?  All I am saying is that during the span when he actually started his numbers were at least decent enough to give him another shot.  And really the only number that is bad in the comp pct if you extended it over a whole season of starting.  I know he played in 9 games, but most of those numbers were in a 3, or so, game stretch if I remember correctly.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2011, 03:58:34 PM
Looks like they got a QB controversy in Denver.  Tebow is a playmaker. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 11, 2011, 12:48:57 PM
He's starting next week.  I guess we'll find out what the kid is made of. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on October 11, 2011, 12:56:07 PM
As long as they keep giving Willis Mcgahee the starter's carries each game, that's all I care about. Sure glad I drafted him in the 12 round. :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 11, 2011, 12:59:11 PM
Looks like they got a QB controversy in Denver.  Tebow is a playmaker. 

 ???



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 11, 2011, 01:21:11 PM
???



4/10 with 79 yards isn't exactly some special "playmaker".

We shall see... welcome to the NFL.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 11, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
4/10 with 79 yards isn't exactly some special "playmaker".

We shall see... welcome to the NFL.

yeah i didnt wanna say nothin...

but no name fuckstick back up QB does the same exact thing, im sure he wouldn't get the "Play-maker" label bestowed on him


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 11, 2011, 03:41:56 PM
yeah i didnt wanna say nothin...

but no name fuckstick back up QB does the same exact thing, im sure he wouldn't get the "Play-maker" label bestowed on him

You didn't say anything.   :)

He isn't a playmaker based on playing a handful of series in one game.  He's a playmaker based on his entire college career.  We're about to find out whether that translates into success in the NFL. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 11, 2011, 04:54:12 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 11, 2011, 07:48:52 PM
Tebow hasn't been tested, but if you watch footage, his mechanics still seem off.

I don't think he's cut out for the NFL, but I'm no expert.

Apparently he's got enough to get drafted into the NFL.

You cannot teach accuracy, bro.  ;) And his release is so funky.  :-\ If i were a CB/S, i would love to sit back and just wait for him to throw me a ball.  8) I have watched him and he stares down his receivers. Tim Tebag cannot run over LB'ers in the NFL


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on October 11, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
Tebow is the jump start the Broncos need.....He is a natural leader!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 11, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
You didn't say anything.   :)

He isn't a playmaker based on playing a handful of series in one game.  He's a playmaker based on his entire college career.  We're about to find out whether that translates into success in the NFL. 

so was eric crouch


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 11, 2011, 08:23:57 PM
so was eric crouch

He is in the CFL with the Rough Riders.  :o :o


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on October 11, 2011, 08:33:28 PM
Eric Crouch is with the Omaha Nighthawks......he couldn't hack it in the NFL.....Mike Martz even made the comment that he wasn't ready.....he was very selfish and wouldn't play receiver....only wanted to play QB.  Tebow is the ultimate team player....he is a big threat with his legs....eventually he will develop into a passer!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 11, 2011, 08:59:07 PM
Eric Crouch is with the Omaha Nighthawks......he couldn't hack it in the NFL.....Mike Martz even made the comment that he wasn't ready.....he was very selfish and wouldn't play receiver....only wanted to play QB.  Tebow is the ultimate team player....he is a big threat with his legs....eventually he will develop into a passer!

I think they have Maurice Claurett and Troy Smith.  ;D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 11, 2011, 09:27:05 PM
so was eric crouch

So was Tommy Frazier.  Neither one of them is Tebow.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on October 12, 2011, 07:04:08 AM
So was Tommy Frazier.  Neither one of them is Tebow.
Frazier is another qb that couldn't throw the rock......and never played in the NFL.


Tebow will develop into a passer....he is a champion and wants to win!!! IMHO


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on October 12, 2011, 07:05:02 AM
I think they have Maurice Claurett and Troy Smith.  ;D
And Mesoli!!!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 12, 2011, 07:21:16 AM
So was Tommy Frazier.  Neither one of them is Tebow.

LOL i love TebowMania.

Cam Newton is the future of the NFL...



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on October 12, 2011, 08:25:09 AM
:)

 :) :)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 12, 2011, 09:09:30 PM
LOL i love TebowMania.

Cam Newton is the future of the NFL...



Lotta people are in love with Tebow.  You never see fans chanting for the third string QB. 

I'm really interested to see how he does.  Can't be any worse than Orton or Quinn. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 13, 2011, 05:08:26 AM
Lotta people are in love with Tebow.  You never see fans chanting for the third string QB. 

I'm really interested to see how he does.  Can't be any worse than Orton or Quinn. 

People only love Tebow because of how open he is with his Faith. I mean, when i was at Michigan, i dated the most hardcore O$U fan and she even rooted for Tim tebow when they crushed her Fuckeyes.  8) Also, she knew i would never buy her anything with O$U on it, so, what did i do? I bought her shit like Tim Tebow's jersey,..etc.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 13, 2011, 09:27:02 AM
Lotta people are in love with Tebow.  You never see fans chanting for the third string QB. 

I'm really interested to see how he does.  Can't be any worse than Orton or Quinn. 

Fans ALWAYS chant a rookie QB who is untested with 2 BCS championships.

They chanted for Michael Vick in Philly as well.

When you have a bad (very bad team), fans will chant for the backup who hasn't done anything to "lose games" yet... But once he does, those chants will be gone.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: JBGRAY on October 13, 2011, 11:20:40 AM
It gets even worse......Down here in Miami the next Sunday is "Florida Gators Appreciation Day."  And guess who the startin' qb for the Broncos is?  Thats right, Tim Tebow.  Joe Robbie Pro Player Landshark Sun Life stadium, home to the Miami Dolphins and the Miami Hurricanes of college football(who have more national championships and NFL players than the Gay-turds do), is hosting a Florida Gators day.

Its bad enough when I go to a Jets or Patriots game here, and we are numbered by obnoxious Jet fans Brady worshippers.  Now we get to see Tim Teblowers.  The Dolphins are the old Detroit Lions now....the worst franchise in football.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2011, 02:24:53 PM
People only love Tebow because of how open he is with his Faith. I mean, when i was at Michigan, i dated the most hardcore O$U fan and she even rooted for Tim tebow when they crushed her Fuckeyes.  8) Also, she knew i would never buy her anything with O$U on it, so, what did i do? I bought her shit like Tim Tebow's jersey,..etc.

People only love Tebow because of his faith?  You mean having one of the most successful careers in the history of college football has nothing to do with why a lot of people love him?  Or maybe the fact he isn't one of those self-absorded prima donnas that permeate the NFL?   


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Andy Griffin on October 13, 2011, 03:11:11 PM
It gets even worse......Down here in Miami the next Sunday is "Florida Gators Appreciation Day."  And guess who the startin' qb for the Broncos is?  Thats right, Tim Tebow.  Joe Robbie Pro Player Landshark Sun Life stadium, home to the Miami Dolphins and the Miami Hurricanes of college football(who have more national championships and NFL players than the Gay-turds do), is hosting a Florida Gators day.

Its bad enough when I go to a Jets or Patriots game here, and we are numbered by obnoxious Jet fans Brady worshippers.  Now we get to see Tim Teblowers.  The Dolphins are the old Detroit Lions now....the worst franchise in football.

That's what happened when the Robbies lost the team and that glorified garbage man took over.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 23, 2011, 03:12:22 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLk9u2y6T14


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 23, 2011, 05:08:31 PM
 ;D 8) ;D 8)


A winner.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 23, 2011, 07:04:33 PM
;D 8) ;D 8)


A winner.

Tebow postgame: "You will never see anyone cry harder. God bless."


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 23, 2011, 07:14:14 PM
Tebow was horrendous for 55 minutes... Miami basically fell apart with 5 minutes left and Tebow got the win.

Let's see what happens when the team isn't 0-6.

A win is a win though.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 23, 2011, 07:18:15 PM
Tebow was horrendous for 55 minutes... Miami basically fell apart with 5 minutes left and Tebow got the win.

Let's see what happens when the team isn't 0-6.

A win is a win though.

One again, this guy gets it. Miami was finished before the season began.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on October 24, 2011, 05:42:42 AM
Not sold on Tebow yet. He was playing the Dolphins and was playing terrible for 3 quarters. But he won, bottome line.

I'm curious as to what he can do next Sunday against a tougher defense.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 24, 2011, 05:50:17 AM
;D 8) ;D 8)


A winner.


LOL.... ok


check Cam Newton's stats from..yesterday

thats the young stud in the making




Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 24, 2011, 11:30:19 AM

LOL.... ok


check Cam Newton's stats from..yesterday

thats the young stud in the making





Tebow 1-0 as a starter this season.....Cam is 2-5...... ;D

Ask Dan Marino what "stats" mean..... 8)



In all seriousness, Tebow won but has a long way to go.  The BIG difference is that under Orton or whoever in Denver they would have folded like a cheap tent with 5 mins to go and down 15-0.....Tebow doesn't let that happen...and then audibles into the play to tie the game.  He is a winner, pure and simple. And that is with idiot Denver trading the only thing close to a #1 WR away. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 24, 2011, 11:31:52 AM

Tebow 1-0 as a starter this season.....Cam is 2-5...... ;D

Ask Dan Marion what "stats" mean..... 8)
Let's see how the stats after week 17 look.

:D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 24, 2011, 12:04:55 PM



Tebow 1-0 as a starter this season.....Cam is 2-5...... ;D

Ask Dan Marino what "stats" mean..... 8)



In all seriousness, Tebow won but has a long way to go.  The BIG difference is that under Orton or whoever in Denver they would have folded like a cheap tent with 5 mins to go and down 15-0.....Tebow doesn't let that happen...and then audibles into the play to tie the game.  He is a winner, pure and simple. And that is with idiot Denver trading the only thing close to a #1 WR away. 


SOUNDS GOOD

Go to nfl.com. Killa Cam is 5th among Qbs..


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2011, 12:26:55 PM

Tebow 1-0 as a starter this season.....Cam is 2-5...... ;D

Ask Dan Marino what "stats" mean..... 8)



In all seriousness, Tebow won but has a long way to go.  The BIG difference is that under Orton or whoever in Denver they would have folded like a cheap tent with 5 mins to go and down 15-0.....Tebow doesn't let that happen...and then audibles into the play to tie the game.  He is a winner, pure and simple. And that is with idiot Denver trading the only thing close to a #1 WR away. 

Agree.  He's a winner, but has a long way to go.

I saw the highlights of his first half passes where he missed some wide open WRs pretty badly.  Definitlely has to improve his accuracy if he's going to be successful.  I'd actually give him more than one full season as a starter before judging him.   

The NFL has sure changed.  The days of allowing a QB to be groomed for several years are gone.  Those kids get thrown in early to sink or swim. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 24, 2011, 12:50:30 PM
Agree.  He's a winner, but has a long way to go.

I saw the highlights of his first half passes where he missed some wide open WRs pretty badly.  Definitlely has to improve his accuracy if he's going to be successful.  I'd actually give him more than one full season as a starter before judging him.   

The NFL has sure changed.  The days of allowing a QB to be groomed for several years are gone.  Those kids get thrown in early to sink or swim. 

Boom...


The only teams that build from the draft are Ravens and Steelers..

Everyone else wants return on investment right now. Or they get free agents...

The football Gods dont like that


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on October 24, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
They key is to draft well and have an excellent scouting department.(duh) And the Steelers and Ravens are among the top 5 in NFL franchises, IMO. It's quite evident that a lot of other NFL teams have bad scouting and subpar front offices.

The Ravens hardly ever go after big name free agents. I can't remember the last once since Elvis Grbac in 2001. I'm talking free agents, not above average players they traded for.

Most of the best players on the Ravens roster became stars within their organization.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2011, 01:40:05 PM
Boom...


The only teams that build from the draft are Ravens and Steelers..

Everyone else wants return on investment right now. Or they get free agents...

The football Gods dont like that

Truth. 

Green Bay has done a remarkable job in the draft too.  I think the few years Rogers spent behind Favre had to help too. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2011, 01:42:31 PM
They key is to draft well and have an excellent scouting department.(duh) And the Steelers and Ravens are among the top 5 in NFL franchises, IMO. It's quite evident that a lot of other NFL teams have bad scouting and subpar front offices.

The Ravens hardly ever go after big name free agents. I can't remember the last once since Elvis Grbac in 2001. I'm talking free agents, not above average players they traded for.

Most of the best players on the Ravens roster became stars within their organization.

Newsome does an incredible job. 

Did you really mention Elvis Grbac??  Why don't you go ahead and twist the knife by mentioning Jim DRUNKen miller and JJ Stokes too??    :'(


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 24, 2011, 01:56:27 PM
Truth. 

Green Bay has done a remarkable job in the draft too.  I think the few years Rogers spent behind Favre had to help too. 

It is never a bad thing to be able to learn from a very very good quarterback in the NFL.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on October 24, 2011, 07:32:40 PM
Cam and Tebow are both bad ass!!!!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Grape Ape on October 25, 2011, 04:18:19 AM
One FFL I'm in this year ridiculously favors RBs giving  a point for every FIVE yds rushing instead of  ten.  It's stupid.

But Teabow will be an absolute monster in this format.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 25, 2011, 05:55:01 AM
Truth. 

Green Bay has done a remarkable job in the draft too.  I think the few years Rogers spent behind Favre had to help too. 

Yes. Greenbay did it the right way. I forgot to add them. They did draft well


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on October 25, 2011, 06:23:00 AM
Ahem....the Gmen and Pats do well with drafting.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 25, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
Did you guys catch the press conference after the game?  Fox looked so uncomfortable.  I honestly believe he was hoping for a "see i told you guys Orton was the guy" if Tebow lost.  The fact Tebow didn't play all that well, but they won had to cause him a lot of pain.  He's too stubborn to realize the days of running on 1, 2 and throwing as a last resort on 3rd down.....with only 1 or zero #1 WR's....are LONG over in the NFL.  Denver would be better suited to run the no-huddle and let Tebow do his thing which is thrive in chaos.  So glad Rivera is going it with Cam. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 26, 2011, 01:38:06 PM
Ahem....the Gmen and Pats do well with drafting.

Pats... not really.. they do good with their later rounds.. ill give you thay.. but their recent early round picks are trash.
Lawrence Maroney isnt with the team
Brand Merriweather isnt with the team.
Spikes is alright.. not a star


They do well with letting some team miss on someone and then capitalizing on that teams mis management of that player
Welker
Woodhead.
And countless free agents.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 26, 2011, 03:58:09 PM
Pats... not really.. they do good with their later rounds.. ill give you thay.. but their recent early round picks are trash.
Lawrence Maroney isnt with the team
Brand Merriweather isnt with the team.
Spikes is alright.. not a star


They do well with letting some team miss on someone and then capitalizing on that teams mis management of that player
Welker
Woodhead.
And countless free agents.



I agree and you could put Brady in that category. No way in hell they had any idea what they were getting.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2011, 09:07:20 PM
Pats... not really.. they do good with their later rounds.. ill give you thay.. but their recent early round picks are trash.
Lawrence Maroney isnt with the team
Brand Merriweather isnt with the team.
Spikes is alright.. not a star


They do well with letting some team miss on someone and then capitalizing on that teams mis management of that player
Welker
Woodhead.
And countless free agents.



Agree.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2011, 09:08:50 PM
I agree and you could put Brady in that category. No way in hell they had any idea what they were getting.

Yep.  Every team in the league whiffed on Brady.   


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 28, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
Yep.  Every team in the league whiffed on Brady.   

 8)

Tee Martin was takin ahead of Brady along with Pennington and i have been drinking. I cannot think of the rest of as now.  :-\ :-\ I think there were four other assholes that ere taking ahead of Brady.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
8)

Tee Martin was takin ahead of Brady along with Pennington and i have been drinking. I cannot think of the rest of as now.  :-\ :-\ I think there were four other assholes that ere taking ahead of Brady.

Pennington, Carmazzi, Redman, Martin, Bulger, Wynn.  I forgot the Niners took Giovanni Carmazzi over Brady.  Brilliant. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Andy Griffin on October 29, 2011, 09:39:20 AM
Yep.  Every team in the league whiffed on Brady.   

If I remember correctly, back when Dan Marino was drafted, every other team except the Redskins (who had won the Super Bowl) had a shot at him. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Andy Griffin on October 29, 2011, 09:44:40 AM
8)

Tee Martin was takin ahead of Brady along with Pennington and i have been drinking. I cannot think of the rest of as now.  :-\ :-\ I think there were four other assholes that ere taking ahead of Brady.

A little off topic, but seeing Tee Martin's name reminds me of a story a friend and former coworker once told me.  This friend had played baseball at Greensboro College, and one of his teammates was dating a girl who attended Univ of Tenn.  This fellow had plans to visit his girl one weekend, but the baseball coach had lined up a few weekend scrimmages so he was stuck.  He was bitching, "I'm stuck going to these stupid scrimmages and she's probably going to some party and all those damn football players will be there..."  Just then one of the other teammates started imitating this fellow's girl, getting down on all fours and squealing, "Tee!  Tee!!" until the fellow completely melted.  hahahahahahahaha


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 01:12:39 PM
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/770049/tebowed.gif)

 :D :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 30, 2011, 01:51:13 PM
Tebow... The Playmaker.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 01:58:11 PM
Tebow... The Playmaker.

Yea, he is making more plays as we speak.  :D :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 30, 2011, 04:30:16 PM
Stunk it up..... that move by the Detroit player, don't know he it was, was classless and uncalled for.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Stunk it up..... that move by the Detroit player, don't know he it was, was classless and uncalled for.

The players around the league are now calling it, "Tebowing Tewow".  :D :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 04:41:35 PM
Stunk it up..... that move by the Detroit player, don't know he it was, was classless and uncalled for.

Just a lil stat regarding Tebow and Orton: Tim Tebow was sacked 14 times in 2 games and Kyle Orton was sacked 9 times in 5 games.  :-\


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 30, 2011, 05:53:48 PM
Stunk it up..... that move by the Detroit player, don't know he it was, was classless and uncalled for.

Yep.  He was pretty bad.  Did some good things, but overall looked completely out of sync.  Part of it was his fault, part was his line failing to give him any time at all, and part was the offensive coordinator not knowing what kind of offense he wanted to run.

They said this was a his fifth start?  Have to give him a chance to get a lot more games under his belt. 

I agree about the guy mocking his prayer after sacking him.  Bush league. 

On another note, pretty rare to see Champ Bailey get burned the way he did. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 30, 2011, 06:04:45 PM
Yep.  He was pretty bad.  Did some good things, but overall looked completely out of sync.  Part of it was his fault, part was his line failing to give him any time at all, and part was the offensive coordinator not knowing what kind of offense he wanted to run.

They said this was a his fifth start?  Have to give him a chance to get a lot more games under his belt. 

I agree about the guy mocking his prayer after sacking him.  Bush league. 

On another note, pretty rare to see Champ Bailey get burned the way he did. 

Denver needs to put in an offense like Carolina has with Newton.  Spread the field more and let Tebow run and make plays.  Their o-line was horrible.  If they are patient and give it time, Tebow will be fine as a starter.  In a league where John Beck, Curtis Painter and Matt Moore are starters on a given weekend, the Broncos could do far worse.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 30, 2011, 06:16:12 PM
Denver needs to put in an offense like Carolina has with Newton.  Spread the field more and let Tebow run and make plays.  Their o-line was horrible.  If they are patient and give it time, Tebow will be fine as a starter.  In a league where John Beck, Curtis Painter and Matt Moore are starters on a given weekend, the Broncos could do far worse.

Agree.  They were in the spread, then the option, then a traditional pro set.  All over the place.   

In addition to the QBs you mentioned, there are Tavaris Jackson, Feeley, Gabbert.   


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 06:24:12 PM
I'm no "fan" of Tebow, but he is without question, the best collegiate player of my lifetime.  I just never thought his skill set would translate to NFL success. Off the field he sounds like a stand up guy, and pro sports could certainly use more of those.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on October 30, 2011, 06:30:39 PM
Tebow has class and determination.....don't forget.....he has only made 3 starts in the NFL.

The guy has no quit in him at all.....He is a leader and a team player.

I wouldn't be surprised if he makes tremendous improvements by late season!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on October 30, 2011, 06:33:24 PM
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/770049/tebowed.gif)

 :D :D
ZERO CLASS.....Detroit has a reputation for being dirty and showing little class....Suh has  been described as a dirty player.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 06:37:18 PM
Agree.  They were in the spread, then the option, then a traditional pro set.  All over the place.   

In addition to the QBs you mentioned, there are Tavaris Jackson, Feeley, Gabbert.   

Tebow is almost totally ineffective as a passer. They also have very little talent on offense. Decker is a number three receiver, but in Denver he is a one. Defensively, they are poor.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 30, 2011, 07:03:05 PM
Tebow is almost totally ineffective as a passer. They also have very little talent on offense. Decker is a number three receiver, but in Denver he is a one. Defensively, they are poor.

Hard to judge.  He has a limp noodle arm and can be very erratic, but he threw a few really nice passes, including the long one in the first quarter that was a hair away from being about a 40-yard TD pass. 

I agree they have very little talent on O.  I'm watching Vick right now and one of the differences between him and Tebow is the great talent surrounding Vick.  (Vick also has a better and more accurate arm and is much faster.) 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
Hard to judge.  He has a limp noodle arm and can be very erratic, but he threw a few really nice passes, including the long one in the first quarter that was a hair away from being about a 40-yard TD pass. 

I agree they have very little talent on O.  I'm watching Vick right now and one of the differences between him and Tebow is the great talent surrounding Vick.  (Vick also has a better and more accurate arm and is much faster.) 

Ole Tebow had a rough go today but last week he was a savior. The fans chanted his name and wanted him over Orton and now they got it. How long before they want to get rid of him. Once teams get adjusted to his style of play, he will be even more unsuccessful like today.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 30, 2011, 07:17:26 PM
Ole Tebow had a rough go today but last week he was a savior. The fans chanted his name and wanted him over Orton and now they got it. How long before they want to get rid of him. Once teams get adjusted to his style of play, he will be even more unsuccessful like today.

If they put the right pieces around him, run the spread, and block somebody, he should improve.  But we'll see.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 07:20:27 PM
If they put the right pieces around him, run the spread, and block somebody, he should improve.  But we'll see.

Tim Tebow is no Cam Newton.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 30, 2011, 07:24:34 PM
Tim Tebow is no Cam Newton.

Who said he was Cam Newton?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 30, 2011, 07:53:24 PM
Who said he was Cam Newton?

Have heard the comparisons. I say put him at FB or Tight End and he would be a good one.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 31, 2011, 08:11:30 AM
It's tough to truly gauge Tebow with the absolute total lack of talent on the offensive side for Denver.   Line sucks, a bunch of #3 and #4 WR's, ineffective run game, etc... very few QB's would have much success.  Orton at least had Lloyd as a #1. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on October 31, 2011, 09:31:40 AM
Hey can't throw a medium to long throw without it wobbling. His accuracy and lack of footwork in the pocket will be his undoing.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on October 31, 2011, 09:32:21 AM
Hey can't throw a medium to long throw without it wobbling. His accuracy and lack of footwork in the pocket will be his undoing.

no dude.. you have to put people around him.. youll see.. he will be awesome.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 31, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Hey can't throw a medium to long throw without it wobbling. His accuracy and lack of footwork in the pocket will be his undoing.

In other words, the fact he's really not an NFL caliber QB.... As "some" people have stated around here.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 31, 2011, 12:21:50 PM
Uh, did any of you even see the game or the highlights?  On the first drive he made a great throw that should have been ruled a TD but wasn't.  Throw was perfect on a fade.  And he was getting hammered all day....besides, he didn't look much worse than "pro bowl" QB Tony Romo this week.  And how many starts does he have under his belt?  Tons of talent around him on offense too.  Give it time fellas.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 31, 2011, 12:28:49 PM
Uh, did any of you even see the game or the highlights?  On the first drive he made a great throw that should have been ruled a TD but wasn't.  Throw was perfect on a fade.  And he was getting hammered all day....besides, he didn't look much worse than "pro bowl" QB Tony Romo this week.  And how many starts does he have under his belt?  Tons of talent around him on offense too.  Give it time fellas.

I watched the whole thing... I haz the NFL Sunday Ticket.

Tony Romo is not some amazing talent either... He's ok, but that's about it.

I simply don't see where Tebow is any better than any "average to below average" quarterback in the league. If he proves me wrong and becomes the man one day, I will absolutely wish him well.

I do remember that Peyton's first season wasn't so great either.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Andy Griffin on October 31, 2011, 12:35:53 PM
Uh, did any of you even see the game or the highlights?  On the first drive he made a great throw that should have been ruled a TD but wasn't.  Throw was perfect on a fade.  And he was getting hammered all day....besides, he didn't look much worse than "pro bowl" QB Tony Romo this week.  And how many starts does he have under his belt?  Tons of talent around him on offense too.  Give it time fellas.

Now that Kim Kardishian is single again  ::)   I sure hope Tebow can keep his mind on football and not get his head turned.   :-\


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 31, 2011, 12:44:31 PM
I watched the whole thing... I haz the NFL Sunday Ticket.

Tony Romo is not some amazing talent either... He's ok, but that's about it.

I simply don't see where Tebow is any better than any "average to below average" quarterback in the league. If he proves me wrong and becomes the man one day, I will absolutely wish him well.

I do remember that Peyton's first season wasn't so great either.

I agree on Romo and I think you are right on what Tebow is/can become.  I think he can become a legit starting QB in the NFL...not an upper tier guy, but certainly one who can compete.  It's really not going to be settled until Denver gets some semblance of an o line.... 7 sacks and he wasn't holding onto the ball too long on the majority of them....and he was blasted numerous times as he released the ball.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on October 31, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
I agree on Romo and I think you are right on what Tebow is/can become.  I think he can become a legit starting QB in the NFL...not an upper tier guy, but certainly one who can compete.  It's really not going to be settled until Denver gets some semblance of an o line.... 7 sacks and he wasn't holding onto the ball too long on the majority of them....and he was blasted numerous times as he released the ball.

I agree... this really is more of a defense of Kyle Orton to be honest though.

Tebow certainly isn't some "savior" of the team... And as history shows, if things go bad, it's always the QBs fault.

Kyle Orton should feel redeemed in some small way.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Andy Griffin on October 31, 2011, 12:52:34 PM
I agree on Romo and I think you are right on what Tebow is/can become.  I think he can become a legit starting QB in the NFL...not an upper tier guy, but certainly one who can compete.  It's really not going to be settled until Denver gets some semblance of an o line.... 7 sacks and he wasn't holding onto the ball too long on the majority of them....and he was blasted numerous times as he released the ball.

I wonder if he couldn't be an effective "slash" guy like Stewart?  Of course, I realize that a lot of qb's don't want to be labeled that way.  


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2011, 02:26:54 PM
Uh, did any of you even see the game or the highlights?  On the first drive he made a great throw that should have been ruled a TD but wasn't.  Throw was perfect on a fade.  And he was getting hammered all day....besides, he didn't look much worse than "pro bowl" QB Tony Romo this week.  And how many starts does he have under his belt?  Tons of talent around him on offense too.  Give it time fellas.

He certainly wasn't any worse than Gabbert:  10-30 for 97 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. 

Way too soon to say whether he will be successful or not. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on October 31, 2011, 02:50:57 PM
Tonight I’m wearing a Tim Tebow jersey so I can throw candy 15 feet above kids heads. Oh, the hilarity.  :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 31, 2011, 03:16:18 PM
I agree... this really is more of a defense of Kyle Orton to be honest though.

Tebow certainly isn't some "savior" of the team... And as history shows, if things go bad, it's always the QBs fault.

Kyle Orton should feel redeemed in some small way.

I liked Orton.  He was just caught in a no-win situation.  They really shouldn't have drafted Tebow and tried to get some o-line help.


And Andy, I think that a "slash" role for Tebow at this stage would be perfect.  If you remember thats what they did at Florida with him as a freshman.  He was a goal-line guy....the ole jump pass baby!  i think that would be a good role and then let him develop.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Grape Ape on November 06, 2011, 05:10:14 PM
As stated, FFB beast.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 07, 2011, 06:31:52 AM
Tebow for MVP now


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 07, 2011, 09:11:20 AM
Tebow for MVP now

2-1 baby !!!!!  How many wins your boy Cam got with 3 times as many starts?   ;D





 ;)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 07, 2011, 10:54:19 AM
Solid performance.  No turnovers.  He had 112 yards rushing?  I'm sure he will have up and down performances if he continues to start in what is essentially his rookie season, but he took a step forward yesterday.  Having a consistent running game will help him tremendously. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 07, 2011, 11:42:01 AM
2-1 baby !!!!!  How many wins your boy Cam got with 3 times as many starts?   ;D





 ;)

Killa Cam Qb Rating of 87.1 and ranked 6th among starting qbs

Tebow.......not on the list..


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on November 07, 2011, 11:52:44 AM
The guy is a winner.....plain and simple!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 07, 2011, 01:32:54 PM
Killa Cam Qb Rating of 87.1 and ranked 6th among starting qbs

Tebow.......not on the list..


Wins and loses baby!!!  Funny thing to think about is that if Luck had left school last year, Cam wouldn't even be on Carolina right now!  Crazy world...


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 07, 2011, 01:35:05 PM
The guy is a winner.....plain and simple!

Last week he was a "break evener", and he may well be again.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 07, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
Wins and loses baby!!!  Funny thing to think about is that if Luck had left school last year, Cam wouldn't even be on Carolina right now!  Crazy world...

Plus a lot of folks didn't think Cam was going to be successful. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 07, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
Plus a lot of folks didn't think Cam was going to be successful. 

i would be one.  He has totally proven me wrong.  Didn't see anything at Auburn to make me think he was going to be a special NFL QB.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 07, 2011, 06:24:04 PM
i would be one.  He has totally proven me wrong.  Didn't see anything at Auburn to make me think he was going to be a special NFL QB.

Well, he's had an incredible half a season, but that's all it is.  Still too soon to make long-term judgments about him.

Now that guy in Green Bay?  I watched the game yesterday and I saw Joe Montana, with a better arm.  I haven't seen a QB look that good since Montana. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 07:55:14 AM
Well, he's had an incredible half a season, but that's all it is.  Still too soon to make long-term judgments about him.

Now that guy in Green Bay?  I watched the game yesterday and I saw Joe Montana, with a better arm.  I haven't seen a QB look that good since Montana. 

Rodgers is incredible.  EVERY throw is on time and accurate. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 09, 2011, 09:09:42 AM
Rodgers is incredible.  EVERY throw is on time and accurate. 

Definitely the next big name QB with a long future.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 09:13:35 AM
Definitely the next big name QB with a long future.

Absolutely.  I think he is the best in the game right now....including Brees and Brady.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 09, 2011, 09:14:45 AM
Absolutely.  I think he is the best in the game right now....including Brees and Brady.
You can definitely make that case. I would be hard pressed to come up with reasons to say he's not.

He needs some longevity, but if things continue as they have been, the guy is going to be a Hall of Famer.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 09:18:33 AM
You can definitely make that case. I would be hard pressed to come up with reasons to say he's not.

He needs some longevity, but if things continue as they have been, the guy is going to be a Hall of Famer.

I agree.  He is the best RIGHT NOW, but things can change and he needs to prove it over the long haul....which I think he will.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: wild willie on November 09, 2011, 10:17:34 AM
Rodgers is outstanding.....I also like Cam.....Don't forget Fitzpatrick!!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2011, 12:41:16 PM
Rodgers is incredible.  EVERY throw is on time and accurate. 

Agree.  Every time he releases the ball he knows exactly where it's going.  Same accuracy whether he's in or out of the pocket.  Cool as can be too.  Very impressive. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: YoungBlood on November 13, 2011, 05:02:14 PM


Today Tebow was 2/8!!!

After two of their RB's went down, they still ran a very minimal amount of passing plays.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 13, 2011, 05:40:13 PM
3-1..... 8)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 13, 2011, 09:25:47 PM
3-1..... 8)

There is no way he can stay a starting quarterback with completing 25 percent of his passes... I don't care what anyone says.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2011, 07:51:25 AM
John elway might be going crazy right now. 2/8? Cmon man


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 14, 2011, 09:24:24 AM
3-1 with less talent than Orton had around him.  8)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2011, 09:53:27 AM
3-1 with less talent than Orton had around him.  8)

dude is a starting QB. In the NFL. that played an entire game.. and had 2 completions... and played the entire game. amazing


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 14, 2011, 10:23:24 AM
They ran the ball like 50 times. That was the game plan.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2011, 10:35:16 AM
They ran the ball like 50 times. That was the game plan.

i wonder why


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 14, 2011, 10:45:51 AM
i wonder why

Is there another starting quarterback in the ENTIRE NFL that only throws 8 times?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 14, 2011, 10:51:47 AM
i wonder why

So you knew that the gameplan was to pound the ball because tebow is not a traditional pocket qb, yet you still bitch about his throwing stats? really?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2011, 11:06:50 AM
So you knew that the gameplan was to pound the ball because tebow is not a traditional pocket qb, yet you still bitch about his throwing stats? really?

Relax little man. No ones bitching about anything. Its funny.. Calm down.. Go jack off to your tebow "fathead" picture and have a chocolate milk.
Fuck. You Tebow homos are sensitive aren't you.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 14, 2011, 11:14:48 AM
Relax little man. No ones bitching about anything. Its funny.. Calm down.. Go jack off to your tebow "fathead" picture and have a chocolate milk.
Fuck. You Tebow homos are sensitive aren't you.

Yeah. You clearly are bitching because you dont like tebow.

Thats cool, but try not to meltdown next time when someone lets you know about it.

Love the tough guy talk though.  :D  Wanna throw hands?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
Love the tough guy talk though.  :D  Wanna throw hands?



We don't fight on the Sports Boards.   Differences are settled by each poster posting a pic of their favorite piece of ass, and having the moderators deciding the victor.   Loser has to use the avatar of the winner's choice for a week.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 14, 2011, 11:37:10 AM


We don't fight on the Sports Boards.   Differences are settled by each poster posting a pic of their favorite piece of ass, and having the moderators deciding the victor.   Loser has to use the avatar of the winner's choice for a week.

Lol, apparently anyone who speaks rationally in this thread is a tebow homo  :D


"option D" lowering the median iq of the sports board one post at a time.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2011, 11:38:51 AM
Like yourself, Option D is good people.  Post the ass.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2011, 12:17:45 PM
Yeah. You clearly are bitching because you dont like tebow.

Thats cool, but try not to meltdown next time when someone lets you know about it.

Love the tough guy talk though.  :D  Wanna throw hands?

I dont line tebow.. shittin me right. Im pointing out the obvious, dude is a starting qb that completed 2 passes in the entire game.. The fact that you dont think thats noteworthy shows that youre a Tebow Cock sucker.

tuff guy talk? damn youre sensitive. No one got tuff.. Dude youre like a woman


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 14, 2011, 12:32:27 PM
They ran the ball 50 times. Can you remember the last time a team ran the ball 50 times? Stop fucking whining. Vince young completed 7 passes last year against the giants and won also. Winning is what matters.

Today is the first time i've ever posted in this thread. If you look at the original tebow thread on this board you'll find that I thought he didn't have the talent to play qb in the league. I still feel that way but he is proving he can manage games and win football games. I can admit that. Thats called being objective.

You're a byproduct of the coverage that networks like espn give to tebow.  :-\


Quote
tuff guy talk? damn youre sensitive. No one got tuff.. Dude youre like a woman

Lol, bless your heart.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 14, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
They ran the ball 50 times. Can you remember the last time a team ran the ball 50 times? Stop fucking whining. Vince young completed 7 passes last year against the giants and won also. Winning is what matters.

Today is the first time i've ever posted in this thread. If you look at the original tebow thread on this board you'll find that I thought he didn't have the talent to play qb in the league. I still feel that way but he is proving he can manage games and win football games. I can admit that. Thats called being objective.

You're a byproduct of the coverage that networks like espn give to tebow.  :-\


Lol, bless your heart.

aye man. Youre the one that got butt hurt when i pointed out the fact that he completed 2 passes in an entire game. Youre acting real gay over there


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 14, 2011, 12:39:07 PM
aye man. Youre the one that got butt hurt when i pointed out the fact that he completed 2 passes in an entire game. Youre acting real gay over there

Yeah i know, you mentioned it like 4 times.

Stop whining.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 14, 2011, 12:43:05 PM
Wasn't aware it mattered how many times a QB throws the ball.....thought the idea was to actually win the game....of which Mr. Tebow is now 3-1......sorry haters, move along. 

Also, maybe the Eagles should implement this gameplan with Vick.....he needs to only be throwing 8 or so times a game......freakin' bum is killing my fantasy team.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on November 14, 2011, 12:55:24 PM
Cam has a hell of a lot more talent around him then Tebow does.


.....and Show is right,all that matters is wins which Cam has only 2 of.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 14, 2011, 12:59:57 PM
Cam has a hell of a lot more talent around him then Tebow does.


.....and Show is right,all that matters is wins which Cam has only 2 of.

Cam also took 8 starts to get 2 wins....Tebow took 4 to get 3.  Do the math....  ;D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on November 14, 2011, 01:01:50 PM
Cam also took 8 starts to get 2 wins....Tebow took 4 to get 3.  Do the math....  ;D


Tebow has no rb's or recievers.

Cam has Smith and a rb and two te's.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 14, 2011, 01:04:08 PM

Tebow has no rb's or recievers.

Cam has Smith and a rb and two te's.

No doubt.  Cam also has a coach who believes in him and is tailoring the offensive scheme around him.  I think Fox would actually like to see Tebow fail so he can move on from him.  They traded away his only legit WR.  :-\


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on November 14, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
No doubt.  Cam also has a coach who believes in him and is tailoring the offensive scheme around him.  I think Fox would actually like to see Tebow fail so he can move on from him.  They traded away his only legit WR.  :-\
.

 
Yup and he's playing well in St.Louis


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2011, 03:12:25 PM
He completed two passes, one of which went for more than 50 yards and TD.  Two of his passes were dropped.  He ran for a TD and didn't turn the ball over.  Both his 1 and 2 RBs went down in the first quarter.  And he won.  What in the world is there to complain about? 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 15, 2011, 04:15:25 AM
He completed two passes, one of which went for more than 50 yards and TD.  Two of his passes were dropped.  He ran for a TD and didn't turn the ball over.  Both his 1 and 2 RBs went down in the first quarter.  And he won.  What in the world is there to complain about? 

Evidently you are required to throw the ball at least 20 times a game.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2011, 07:55:56 AM
Jesus you guys are funny. If you don't think its noteworthy that a starting NFL QB completed 2 passes in a game, you're delusional. The same would be said if a QB threw 70 passes in a game. It never happens. You guys are acting like its business as usual that a grown ass man just completed 2 passes at a position where your primary job is to pass. Yes they won. Thats a different story. But the fact that dude went 2-8 isn't business as usual. He needs to thank the KC chiefs for not being smart enough to but 9 in the box.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
Evidently you are required to throw the ball at least 20 times a game.

I don't think I've ever seen an NFL player scrutinized like this.  He's about halfway through his first season as a starter.  People should at least give him a complete season before deciding whether he can play.  He also needs much better weapons. 

But he is creating quite the buzz. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 09:40:31 AM
Jesus you guys are funny. If you don't think its noteworthy that a starting NFL QB completed 2 passes in a game, you're delusional. The same would be said if a QB threw 70 passes in a game. It never happens. You guys are acting like its business as usual that a grown ass man just completed 2 passes at a position where your primary job is to pass. Yes they won. Thats a different story. But the fact that dude went 2-8 isn't business as usual. He needs to thank the KC chiefs for not being smart enough to but 9 in the box.

It's way overblown.  He didn't need to throw the ball.  That wasn't part of the game plan.  The game plan (to run) worked.  Plus two of his eight passes were dropped, one of which would have been about another 50 yard TD. 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the Tebow scrutiny is ridiculous.  We don't hear the same kind of talk about other rookie QBs.  For example, a couple weeks ago Gabbert was 10-30 for 97 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.  Didn't hear the talking heads say anything about that performance.   


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 15, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
It's way overblown.  He didn't need to throw the ball.  That wasn't part of the game plan.  The game plan (to run) worked.  Plus two of his eight passes were dropped, one of which would have been about another 50 yard TD. 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the Tebow scrutiny is ridiculous.  We don't hear the same kind of talk about other rookie QBs.  For example, a couple weeks ago Gabbert was 10-30 for 97 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.  Didn't hear the talking heads say anything about that performance.   

Because everyone already believes Blain was going to suck, and no one rides his johnson.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 11:25:43 AM
Because everyone already believes Blain was going to suck, and no one rides his johnson.



lol.  He was the 10th player taken in the first round of the 2011 draft. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 15, 2011, 11:27:49 AM
lol.  He was the 10th player taken in the first round of the 2011 draft. 


And no ones riding his wang like tebow.

I personally dont care.. My QB already has 2 rings. He throws 8 passes in the first qtr of games... But to act like its nothing that a starting QB was protected from himself up like this is is hilarious.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 15, 2011, 11:30:25 AM
lol.  He was the 10th player taken in the first round of the 2011 draft. 

So what? Again, no one is dick riding him like Tebow.

You are such a clown sometimes. As a matter of fact, you almost NEVER hear about Blaine on any of the media outlets, nor any fans jumping up and down talking about how he's so great throwing 2-8.


And no ones riding his wang like tebow.

I personally dont care.. My QB already has 2 rings. He throws 8 passes in the first qtr of games... But to act like its nothing that a starting QB was protected from himself up like this is is hilarious.

Exactly... Mark is pretty dense at times.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 11:33:49 AM

And no ones riding his wang like tebow.

I personally dont care.. My QB already has 2 rings. He throws 8 passes in the first qtr of games... But to act like its nothing that a starting QB was protected from himself up like this is is hilarious.

I don't have a dog in this either.  I only care about Niners.  But c'mon, there are as many out there dogging him as there are supporting him. 

The lack of people jumping all over Gabbart just shows how absurd the focus on Tebow has been. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 11:34:45 AM
So what? Again, no one is dick riding him like Tebow.

You are such a clown sometimes. As a matter of fact, you almost NEVER hear about Blaine on any of the media outlets, nor any fans jumping up and down talking about how he's so great throwing 2-8.

Exactly... Mark is pretty dense at times.

That's sort of the point.   ::) 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 15, 2011, 11:38:52 AM
That's sort of the point.   ::) 

My god you may be a moron.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 11:44:23 AM
My god you may be a moron.

Why did I even respond?  lol   :)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 15, 2011, 12:01:34 PM
Why did I even respond?  lol   :)

Because you are one of those blowhards that likes to hear himself talk?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 12:11:44 PM
Because you are one of those blowhards that likes to hear himself talk?

Nah.  Just trying to help someone who is struggling to understand this whole sports thing.  I should have known better after reading this:

Quote
Fans ALWAYS chant a rookie QB who is untested with 2 BCS championships.


lol


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 15, 2011, 12:19:09 PM
Nah.  Just trying to help someone who is struggling to understand this whole sports thing.  I should have known better after reading this:


lol

How the hell can you laugh at that? Fans will chant any star QB who won two national championships while at Florida. I mean, c'mon, man. What do you not understand? Tebow has been built up like a god and he can do no wrong. But completing two passes on Saturday is a damn joke. How stupid can you be?  :-\ :-\ I agree that a win is a win, but two completed passes...COME THE FUCK ON!!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 15, 2011, 12:25:21 PM
How the hell can you laugh at that? Fans will chant any star QB who won two national championships while at Florida. I mean, c'mon, man. What do you not understand? Tebow has been built up like a god and he can do no wrong. But completing two passes on Saturday is a damn joke. How stupid can you be?  :-\ :-\ I agree that a win is a win, but two completed passes...COME THE FUCK ON!!

He laughs because he pretends to understand football when he does not.

Some people just really think they know more than they do.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2011, 02:07:45 PM
How the hell can you laugh at that? Fans will chant any star QB who won two national championships while at Florida. I mean, c'mon, man. What do you not understand? Tebow has been built up like a god and he can do no wrong. But completing two passes on Saturday is a damn joke. How stupid can you be?  :-\ :-\ I agree that a win is a win, but two completed passes...COME THE FUCK ON!!

Take a deep breath.  This is only a message board. 

I'm laughing at the claim that fans "ALWAYS chant a rookie QB who is untested with 2 BCS championships."  Can you give me examples in the NFL of untested rookie QBs with two BCS championships, who was the second or third string QB, where the fans chanted his name?  Other than Tebow.  I don't recall that ever happening.   



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 15, 2011, 03:42:08 PM
Take a deep breath.  This is only a message board. 

I'm laughing at the claim that fans "ALWAYS chant a rookie QB who is untested with 2 BCS championships."  Can you give me examples in the NFL of untested rookie QBs with two BCS championships, who was the second or third string QB, where the fans chanted his name?  Other than Tebow.  I don't recall that ever happening.   



You may be  are an idiot.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 16, 2011, 09:22:16 AM
It's this simple.....he wasn't asked to throw the ball more than 8 times.  If any of you have watched Denver they are trying to tailor the offense to him, with over 200yds rushing the last few games, etc...  I commend Fox and Denver for that, as I didn't expect it.

And Mal....a QB's "primary job" isn't to throw the ball.  It's to run the offense and win games.  You know that.  Otherwise Marino would be considered the greatest of all-time.

By the way....7 TD's to only 1 Int......3-1 as a starter....all 3 wins on the road does NOT a guy who can't play the position....period.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 16, 2011, 11:37:00 AM
It's this simple.....he wasn't asked to throw the ball more than 8 times.  If any of you have watched Denver they are trying to tailor the offense to him, with over 200yds rushing the last few games, etc...  I commend Fox and Denver for that, as I didn't expect it.

And Mal....a QB's "primary job" isn't to throw the ball.  It's to run the offense and win games.  You know that.  Otherwise Marino would be considered the greatest of all-time.

By the way....7 TD's to only 1 Int......3-1 as a starter....all 3 wins on the road does NOT a guy who can't play the position....period.

Well said.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 16, 2011, 11:55:54 AM
Well said.

Hi Skip.  :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 16, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
Hi Skip.  :D

Easy way to distinguish me from Skip:  he's an atheist and much smarter than me.   :)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 16, 2011, 12:46:47 PM
Easy way to distinguish me from Skip:  he's an atheist and much smarter than me.   :)

I believe he is deeply religious.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 16, 2011, 01:45:53 PM
I believe he is deeply religious.

lol.  Not unless he had a recent conversion. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Andy Griffin on November 16, 2011, 05:16:11 PM
It's this simple.....he wasn't asked to throw the ball more than 8 times.  If any of you have watched Denver they are trying to tailor the offense to him, with over 200yds rushing the last few games, etc...  I commend Fox and Denver for that, as I didn't expect it.

And Mal....a QB's "primary job" isn't to throw the ball.  It's to run the offense and win games.  You know that.  Otherwise Marino would be considered the greatest of all-time.

By the way....7 TD's to only 1 Int......3-1 as a starter....all 3 wins on the road does NOT a guy who can't play the position....period.

Proud to call you a fellow Tar Heel, brother.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 16, 2011, 05:20:03 PM
Proud to call you a fellow Tar Heel, brother.
[/quote

Aren't you a Duke fan?  ??? :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on November 17, 2011, 05:53:14 AM
What will the haters say if they win tonight!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 17, 2011, 09:16:12 AM
Proud to call you a fellow Tar Heel, brother.

Right back at ya.  Too bad Belmont couldn't hold on last week !!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Grape Ape on November 17, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Don't care if Tebow wins, but I would like 60 yds rushing and two TDs, please.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2011, 09:58:09 AM
What will the haters say if they win tonight!

Haters gonna hate.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2011, 09:58:50 AM
Don't care if Tebow wins, but I would like 60 yds rushing and two TDs, please.

Good chance.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Grape Ape on November 17, 2011, 11:52:49 AM
Good chance.

One of my FFB leagues is warped and gives a point for every FIVE rushing yards instead of 10.  Tebow starts with about 10 points from the get-go.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2011, 11:58:27 AM
One of my FFB leagues is warped and gives a point for every FIVE rushing yards instead of 10.  Tebow starts with about 10 points from the get-go.

That's crazy.  RBs and running QBs must fly off the board in the draft. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Andy Griffin on November 17, 2011, 04:36:27 PM
Right back at ya.  Too bad Belmont couldn't hold on last week !!!!  ;D

Tru dat...

I didn't get to watch the Washington State-Gonzaga game last week, but I wanted to watch it just to see if Dickie V was calling the game, and if so, how many times he would manage to mention Duke.

Didn't Belmont almost beat Duke in the NCAA tournament a few years ago?  The most recent year the Tar Heels won, I think.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: outby43 on November 17, 2011, 04:51:32 PM
Don't care if Tebow wins, but I would like 60 yds rushing and two TDs, please.

I hope so.  Schaub went down so I picked up Tebow.  His passing game scares the hell out of me.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 17, 2011, 08:41:52 PM
9/20 and 104 yards.

Denver's defense won that game.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: outby43 on November 17, 2011, 08:50:47 PM
9/20 and 104 yards.

Denver's defense won that game.



totally.  I will be dropping Tebow.  I was just happy that I got 16 points from him.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Nicademus on November 17, 2011, 09:55:26 PM
It's funny how fantasy football turned so many dudes into straight up fags.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 18, 2011, 04:05:07 AM
4-1.....  8)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: MCWAY on November 18, 2011, 06:41:11 AM
9/20 and 104 yards.

Denver's defense won that game.



They did their thing. But, a 95-TD game-winning drive is what put Denver over the top. If any other QB led his team to victory with a 95-yd TD drive, people would be singing his praises.

So, give Tebow his due.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on November 18, 2011, 07:04:22 AM
4-1.....  8)


Blowing Newton away 8)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on November 18, 2011, 08:18:59 AM

Blowing Newton away 8)

lol sounds good


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 18, 2011, 08:29:10 AM
Tebow ventured onto Revis island......and the island ducked it's head like a bitch.... hahaha


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on November 18, 2011, 08:38:55 AM
lol sounds good



4qtr is Tebow time!!!!!! ;D

Tebow ventured onto Revis island......and the island ducked it's head like a bitch.... hahaha

Looked like Deion Sanders trying to make a tackle!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2011, 09:43:50 AM
They did their thing. But, a 95-TD game-winning drive is what put Denver over the top. If any other QB led his team to victory with a 95-yd TD drive, people would be singing his praises.

So, give Tebow his due.

Agree.  He is a baller. 

He was 3-5 and ran for over 50 yards on the game-winning drive.  He's clutch. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 18, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
Agree.  He is a baller. 

He was 3-5 and ran for over 50 yards on the game-winning drive.  He's clutch. 

But, but he didn't throw it 20 times.....so I think it was actually a "loss."  ;D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: bigkid on November 18, 2011, 09:59:00 AM
If he can ever figure out how to pass, he's gonna be unstoppable.  Doesn't turn the ball over at all.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2011, 10:01:34 AM
But, but he didn't throw it 20 times.....so I think it was actually a "loss."  ;D

lol.  And he only completed 8 (but there were three drops).  The horror. 

If they get him a TE and a couple good WRs, he can be pretty good. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 18, 2011, 10:17:57 AM
They did their thing. But, a 95-TD game-winning drive is what put Denver over the top. If any other QB led his team to victory with a 95-yd TD drive, people would be singing his praises.

So, give Tebow his due.

I am not taking anything away from Tebow. I think he's a he'll of a football player. Just not a QB.

He would make an amazing Tight End.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 18, 2011, 10:46:43 AM
lol.  And he only completed 8 (but there were three drops).  The horror. 

If they get him a TE and a couple good WRs, he can be pretty good. 

Idiots traded away the only thing close to a #1 WR they had with Lloyd.  D. Thomas played in this exact offense at Georgia Tech. I think he will blossom in it if he can stay healthy he could be a solid #2.  They do need a go-to TE.  I also think a guy like Hester could add a lot to the offense....maybe the guy from Florida?  Can't remember the name right now.....Rainey I think.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2011, 11:44:51 AM
Idiots traded away the only thing close to a #1 WR they had with Lloyd.  D. Thomas played in this exact offense at Georgia Tech. I think he will blossom in it if he can stay healthy he could be a solid #2.  They do need a go-to TE.  I also think a guy like Hester could add a lot to the offense....maybe the guy from Florida?  Can't remember the name right now.....Rainey I think.

I don't get the Lloyd trade, unless he was a problem in the locker room. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 18, 2011, 03:42:58 PM
I was screaming at my tv when this happened. Its hard not to root for this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHKo-gkbeCY


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
Great clip. 

Elway's reaction is kinda funny.  I don't think he's a Tebow fan.  Looks like it pains him to have to celebrate Tebow's success.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2011, 09:23:37 PM
He certainly has his teammates' respect.

Winning is the only reason Broncos need to believe in Tebow
By Steve Wyche NFL.com
Senior Writer
Published: Nov. 18, 2011 at 07:53 p.m. Updated: Nov. 18, 2011 at 10:38 p.m.

Denver Broncos wide receiver Eddie Royal, fresh off Thursday's 17-13 victory over the New York Jets, looked at me in all seriousness and said, "I don't know what it is about that guy, but he makes it happen. I love that guy."

That guy, of course, is quarterback Tim Tebow, but let's dissect that first sentence to really show Tebow's impact.

First off, Royal is a wide receiver. If there is any position player that could be frustrated with Tebow and the run-first, run-second and run-third style of offense employed by the Broncos to help the flawed-throwing Tebow, that would be it. Then again, Royal led Denver with three catches for a beefy 15 yards against the Jets, so many he was grateful.

In saying that he doesn't know what it is about Tebow, that's the common refrain throughout the locker room, too. Nobody can pinpoint anything specific other than he's getting it done -- and they're all in.

"I love Tim Tebow," said rookie linebacker Von Miller, whose emphatically making his case for defensive rookie of the year. "You'll never get a bad comment out of me -- ever. No matter how many interceptions he throws, no matter how many touchdowns he scores, he's the man. He's a great quarterback. The definition of a quarterback doesn't mean you have to throw for 400 yards a game.

"Just manage the game. Tim Tebow manages the game well and puts us in great situations to win."

Against the Jets, that situation was being 95 yards away from the end zone with 5:54 remaining. It was then that his teammates knew.

"We actually said the possession before that 'This is the one. Let's go do this'," guard Zane Beadles said. "Thankfully we got the ball back with a decent amount of time on the clock. The good thing was you looked around the huddle, and there was no doubt in anyone's eyes. As bad as things were to that point, you looked at guys next to you, and all you saw was belief.

"He was good in the huddle, basically making guys believe and people believing in him."


Added Royal: "Nobody doubted."

It's easy to say because things worked out and Tebow capped the drive with a dazzling 20-yard touchdown run. Players and coaches always publicly support and speak well of teammates.

However, how teammates feel about Tebow is more apparent in their actions. Players across the board, even wide receivers, have stepped up their level of play during the Broncos' 4-1 run with Tebow as the starter that's left them in solid playoff contention with a 5-5 record overall.

As Beadles said, Denver was lucky to get the ball back after going three and out and punting with just more than seven minutes left in the game. The Broncos stopped New York on three plays -- they were aided by a Jets' penalty -- forcing the punt that led to the final drive.

The offensive line then responded by moving the Jets' defensive front like it hadn't all game. It wasn't the first game the O-line responded like this when it mattered.

Don't we always say the great ones are the ones who elevate everyone's play?

Tebow is not great. He wins, though. No matter how cliché, it's true.


Few players have forced their coaching staffs and teammates to radically change their overall philosophy and scheme to make things work in order to mask the flaws in one person's game -- especially in the middle of the season. Few teams have been as patient with a player who looks so out of sorts so often.

So Tebow isn't great. However, for everything his teammates have done in stepping up, and his coaches have done in tweaking the system, he's paid off when it matters late in games.

Tebow also acknowledges his teammates whenever he can. That's a wise move. When one player starts getting all the credit when so many others play a role in things working, egos and envy can become destructive. The Broncos don't seem anywhere near venturing into that territory, but these are pro athletes. It happens.

As long as the wins keep coming, though, especially with all the negativity that surrounded the team early in the season, Tebow's teammates are fully invested.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82440faa/article/winning-is-the-only-reason-broncos-need-to-believe-in-tebow?module=HP11_cp


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: YoungBlood on November 19, 2011, 06:11:46 AM


Who was the first guy that said the phrase "It's not how you put the W in stat column, just that you do" ?  ??? ??? ???

The point being, Tebow is getting the job done. Do I like his style of play? Do I think he's fairly one dimensional? Do I think he's an elite guy like Brady, Montana or Manning? No, yes and no. For one, it's too early to tell what kind of QB he'll be down the stretch. If he can learn to pass and they start calling the plays differently then he could move up to a different tier but he'll still be far from an elite QB in my opinion. And he has plenty of current day guys playing ahead of him that shit all over him, perhaps not numbers wise but in style of play. Which sort of leads me to my next point (two really)...

...Newton was setting records in his first couple of games, he's impressive and doing far better as a rookie (Heisman or not) than many veteran guys. But he's not getting 100% respect because his team only has 2 W's. His numbers aren't the most impressive on paper compared to how he plays the game. Many agree that Montana is simply the best QB to ever set foot on the field (very few seem to argue this point and only a few reasons would it be possible to dispute this) but his numbers for passer rating, number of TD's in a career/game/season or less interceptions thrown per season all have people that rate better than him. But he won Super Bowls, practically invented the 2min drill (I use this loosely) and any time someone stupidly asks "Who is the greatest QB of all time?" Montana's name is either the first one to come to mind or it's certainly number 2.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13994/cam-newton

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2330/tom-brady

Comparing the two links, with Brady and Newton (I use these two to show the contrast) you can see even though Cam isn't winning many games, he's still doing a helluva job. Especially when you consider one is a rookie and the other is one of the most elite QB's in the game today and past years as well.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 27, 2011, 04:51:15 PM
Beat the Chargers 16-13 in OT.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 27, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
Beat the Chargers 16-13 in OT.

Norv Turner lost that game... Bad play calling because he's scared of the fumble. Put the kick another 10 yards out almost on their drive in OT.

Horrendous.

Tebow 9/18 143 yards in the air.

22 carries and 67 yards on the ground.

It's like having 2 full time running backs in Denver.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 27, 2011, 05:01:26 PM
Norv Turner lost that game... Bad play calling because he's scared of the fumble. Put the kick another 10 yards out almost on their drive in OT.

Horrendous.

Tebow 9/18 143 yards in the air.

22 carries and 67 yards on the ground.

It's like having 2 full time running backs in Denver.

This should be the game that gets Norv fired.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 27, 2011, 05:07:58 PM
This should be the game that gets Norv fired.

He is a horrendous NFL coach... always has been.

He needs to go back to college ball where he at least had some success.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 27, 2011, 05:11:05 PM
5-1..... train keeps rollin'.....  ;D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2011, 09:57:53 AM
5-1..... train keeps rollin'.....  ;D

Yep.  This has to be killing the haters.   :)  Another game where he didn't turn the ball over.  Very impressive performances for a young QB. 

On the flip side there is Gabbert, who was benched in the fourth quarter yesterday, after going 13-29, 136 yards, 0 TDs, and 1 INT in another loss.  Imagine Tebow losing like that, with those kind of stats.   ::)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
I'm wondering what the haters will say if Tebow goes on to be a kick ass quarterback?

I'm already seeing several established Tebow haters on TV kinda backtrack their previous statements enough to cover thier own fucking asses and just say shit like: "it's ugly but it works" or "it's not pretty but he gets the job done" or "He's not a quarterback but he motivates the team enough to win"

What are you haters going to say next if Tebow keeps on winning?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 02:37:48 PM
I'm wondering what the haters will say if Tebow goes on to be a kick ass quarterback?

I'm already seeing several established Tebow haters on TV kinda backtrack their previous statements enough to cover thier own fucking asses and just say shit like: "it's ugly but it works" or "it's not pretty but he gets the job done" or "He's not a quarterback but he motivates the team enough to win"

What are you haters going to say next if Tebow keeps on working?

Trent Dilfer won a superbowl... That pretty much sums it all up.

No one likes Trent Dilfer.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 02:38:50 PM
Trent Dilfer won a superbowl... That pretty much sums it all up.

No one likes Trent Dilfer.
that's your actual answer to my post lol...  Really?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 02:39:47 PM
that's your actual answer to my post lol...  Really?
You need a different one?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
You need a different one?
no, that's about what I would expect from you.

I guess we'll know for sure after some time has passed.... You might come out looking like a complete jackass or be right...  But your answer to my question is the same kinda self ass coving that's going on with others lol...


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 02:48:49 PM
no, that's about what I would expect from you.

I guess we'll know for sure after some time has passed.... You might come out looking like a complete jackass or be right...

It's a valid response... What about it doesn't "sit well" with you? Ah, who am I kidding Hugo, I don't really give a damn if you like it or not anyway.

I don't hate Tebow. I hate everyone who rides his jock when he is "mediocre" at best so far.

If he becomes a superstar then I will be happy to say I was wrong, but I don't think I will be.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
It's a valid response... What about it doesn't "sit well" with you? Ah, who am I kidding Hugo, I don't really give a damn if you like it or not anyway.

I don't hate Tebow. I hate everyone who rides his jock when he is "mediocre" at best so far.

If he becomes a superstar then I will be happy to say I was wrong, but I don't think I will be.


You can answer, or cover your ass, anyway you like...  Don't mind me.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 02:51:16 PM
You can answer, or cover your ass, anyway you like...  Don't mind me.
That sounds retarded.

Why would I have to "cover my ass" over a theory about a football player? ???


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 02:53:47 PM
That sounds retarded.

Why would I have to "cover my ass" over a theory about a football player? ???

Read your own posts, you're doing the same thing as the people I mentioned in the post of mine you responded to originally.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 02:55:43 PM
Read your own posts, you're doing the same thing as the people I mentioned in the post of mine you responded to originally.
You are ridiculous. I have said he is "mediocre" since day one.

I will continue to say he's "mediocre" until such time as he is not "mediocre".

I don't even give him credit for his wins... His defense has been doing all of the work. I think he's had one drive against Miami that was decent... Aside from that, I give the guy almost no credit.

So no... I'm not back peddling and if I'm wrong, I'm just flat out wrong.

You are delusional sometimes Hugo.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 02:59:04 PM
You are ridiculous. I have said he is "mediocre" since day one.

I will continue to say he's "mediocre" until such time as he is not "mediocre".

I don't even give him credit for his wins... His defense has been doing all of the work. I think he's had one drive against Miami that was decent... Aside from that, I give the guy almost no credit.

So no... I'm not back peddling and if I'm wrong, I'm just flat out wrong.

You are delusional sometimes Hugo.
Ok, WTF... Delusional and ridiculous? lol?...  I get called that for asking what Tebow hatters will do if he keeps on winning?  Dude, you're the one that answered that question will a cover and dodge answer, not me...  Save the finger pointing buddy...


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Ok, WTF... Delusional and ridiculous? lol?...  I get called that for asking what Tebow hatters will do if he keeps on winning?  Dude, you're the one that answered that question will a cover and dodge answer, not me...  Save the finger pointing buddy...

That wasn't a dodge, it was a statement of fact.

People will still not like Tebow.

Whether he wins a superbowl or not... He's just not that good. As my Trent Dilfer statement references.

You are the one saying that I'm backpeddling, which I'm not... hence my statement about you being delusional.

You are seeing shit that just isn't there... Maybe in a mental illness capacity?


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 03:04:59 PM
That wasn't a dodge, it was a statement of fact.

People will still not like Tebow.

Whether he wins a superbowl or not... He's just not that good. As my Trent Dilfer statement references.

You are the one saying that I'm backpeddling, which I'm not... hence my statement about you being delusional.

You are seeing shit that just isn't there... Maybe in a mental illness capacity?
Dude, all I fucking originally asked is what Tebow haters would do if he keeps winning or if he turns out to be a good quarterback.  Your fucking answer to that and your meltdown over such a simple question is a fucking joke lol...


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 03:09:04 PM
If Tebow ends up being a great quarterback, I do know who I'm going to be laughing my ass off at. ;)


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 03:11:35 PM
Dude, all I fucking originally asked is what Tebow haters would do if he keeps winning or if he turns out to be a good quarterback.  Your fucking answer to that and your meltdown over such a simple question is a fucking joke lol...

I made a statement... A 2 sentence statement... and now it's a meltdown. ::)

You seriously might be mental.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 03:24:36 PM
I made a statement... A 2 sentence statement... and now it's a meltdown. ::)

You seriously might be mental.
Oh yea, I'm totally mental for asking a simple question and getting a cover and dodge answer lol


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dr Loomis on November 28, 2011, 03:25:22 PM
You do 3 things to win games in the NFL. Run the ball effectively, play good defense and don't turn the ball over. The Broncos do all 3   -now, with Tebow-

Tebow has proven he's a winning NFL quarterback and the entire team has rallied around him. He's already done more in his career than hundreds of first round picks since the merger, and can't be considered a bust. There's nothing left to prove, he's SHOWN he's a difference maker and doesn't even have a legitimate #1 receiver to throw to. He'll continue to improve and the team will get even better once they strengthen the supporting cast.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 03:41:17 PM
You do 3 things to win games in the NFL. Run the ball effectively, play good defense and don't turn the ball over. The Broncos do all 3   -now, with Tebow-

Tebow has proven he's a winning NFL quarterback and the entire team has rallied around him. He's already done more in his career than hundreds of first round picks since the merger, and can't be considered a bust. There's nothing left to prove, he's SHOWN he's a difference maker and doesn't even have a legitimate #1 receiver to throw to. He'll continue to improve and the team will get even better once they strengthen the supporting cast.
As a long time Broncos fan, all I know is that the games have been 1000 times more exciting with Tebow.  We haven't had this kind of excitement since Elway.  I'm good with this, even if we do lose. :) I want to see passionate football played to the last dying breath on Sunday and Tebow brings it...  I'm totally fucking good with that!!!!!!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2011, 03:45:31 PM
You do 3 things to win games in the NFL. Run the ball effectively, play good defense and don't turn the ball over. The Broncos do all 3   -now, with Tebow-

Tebow has proven he's a winning NFL quarterback and the entire team has rallied around him. He's already done more in his career than hundreds of first round picks since the merger, and can't be considered a bust. There's nothing left to prove, he's SHOWN he's a difference maker and doesn't even have a legitimate #1 receiver to throw to. He'll continue to improve and the team will get even better once they strengthen the supporting cast.

His supporting cast is pretty mediocre.  I heard one of the starting WRs yesterday was a running back who was on the practice squad till just a short while ago.  


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 03:54:09 PM
As a long time Broncos fan, all I know is that the games have been 1000 times more exciting with Tebow.  We haven't had this kind of excitement since Elway.  I'm good with this, even if we do lose. :) I want to see passionate football played to the last dying breath on Sunday and Tebow brings it...  I'm totally fucking good with that!!!!!!

That explains a lot.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 28, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
You are ridiculous. I have said he is "mediocre" since day one.

I will continue to say he's "mediocre" until such time as he is not "mediocre".

I don't even give him credit for his wins... His defense has been doing all of the work. I think he's had one drive against Miami that was decent... Aside from that, I give the guy almost no credit.

So no... I'm not back peddling and if I'm wrong, I'm just flat out wrong.

You are delusional sometimes Hugo.

Yeah, this is practically the same defense that was 1-4 with orton in, with their best player, not just on the defensive side but overall, von miller playing every snap on D.

This argument doesn't fly.

Tebow is managing the game and making the right decisions. He has 1 turnover in 6 games. Granted he doesn't throw it very much at all, but he does run the ball and he does scramble plenty and hes managed to hang on the the ball in that regard.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 28, 2011, 04:02:50 PM
That explains a lot.
what?  It wasn't a secret here lol...

what does it have to do with me askng a simple question and getting a totally BS answer from you? lol


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: YoungBlood on November 28, 2011, 04:10:57 PM
Trent Dilfer won a superbowl... That pretty much sums it all up.

No one likes Trent Dilfer.

Dilfer announces one of those pregame shows...I want to punch the guy he's so ostentatious.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 04:11:37 PM
Yeah, this is practically the same defense that was 1-4 with orton in, with their best player, not just on the defensive side but overall, von miller playing every snap on D.

This argument doesn't fly.

Tebow is managing the game and making the right decisions. He has 1 turnover in 6 games. Granted he doesn't throw it very much at all, but he does run the ball and he does scramble plenty and hes managed to hang on the the ball in that regard.



Are you kidding me? Look at the defense over the 1st 5 games and then look at them over the last 5.

There numbers are completely different.

While they may be the same players they are playing an entirely different type of game.

what?  It wasn't a secret here lol...

what does it have to do with me askng a simple question and getting a totally BS answer from you? lol

My answer was completely accurate. You can't even say where it's not. It just does't jive with what you want to hear.





Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 04:13:40 PM
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2011/11/28/2590865/von-miller-and-denver-defense-not-tim-tebow-deserves-credit-for

Von Miller And Denver Defense, Not Tim Tebow, Deserves Credit For Broncos Success

 
 
By Matt Conner - Editor

In short, the Denver Broncos are winning with a strong defense and a solid running game -- the very things teams like the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers have relied upon for years.

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Nov 28, 2011 - Sometimes it feels as if I'm not in on the joke, or if everyone else is watching a game I'm not. He's not accurate at all. The playcalling is rather odd at key moments. The offensive execution is often poor. Yet Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos offense continue to receive the lion's share of attention for the Broncos' unexpected winning streak and ascension to relevance in the AFC playoff conversation. Unfortunately, Tim Tebow is as responsible for the Broncos winning streak as Tamba Hali is for the Chiefs losing streak.

In today's win over the San Diego Chargers, for instance, Tebow went 9 for 18 for 143 passing yards and 1 touchdown. Overall, he's 65 for 143 which makes for a 45 percent completion rate. Just to put this in perspective, Blaine Gabbert -- yes, Blaine Gabbert -- is 33rd in the NFL (out of 32 teams) with 48 percent. In other words, the worst passer in the NFL is three percentage points better than Tim Tebow.

Of course, that's picking one statistic and painting it in the worst light. Tebow has limited his turnovers (only one in six games). He's also a threat to run that teams have to account for. But all this to say that it's not Tebow lifting the team upon his shoulders a la Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Instead, it's about the Denver defense that has stifled one opponent after another, anchored by a pass rush featuring rookie Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil.

Thus far on the season, the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft has 58 tackles, 3 forced fumbles and 10.5 sacks -- tremendous numbers for any player. For a rookie, however, those are signs that the Broncos have the next elite level pass rusher they were hoping for. Placed opposite Elvis Dumervil, who has 5.5 sacks over the last four weeks, and you have a force on both sides that opposing teams simply cannot account for.

Overall, the Broncos defense has continued to hold opponents in key situations, giving the offense time to perform in the end. They're getting after the passer. They're shutting down opponents in key situations. And the running game has begun to show signs of life with Willis McGahee showing that he can help move the chains if the defense can keep it close.

In short, the Denver Broncos are winning with a strong defense and a solid running game -- the very things teams like the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers have relied upon for years. Tim Tebow is a nice guy who was one of the greatest college football players of all time. Right now, the best thing he's doing is minimizing mistakes and allowing the impact players on the team -- despite the lack of attention they receive -- to


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 28, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
Blaine gabert is playing with a top 5 defense and MJD.

What the fuck has he done? He looks like a scared little bitch in the pocket and is throwing ducks.

Its time to give tebow some credit.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 28, 2011, 04:25:34 PM
Are you kidding me? Look at the defense over the 1st 5 games and then look at them over the last 5.

There numbers are completely different.

While they may be the same players they are playing an entirely different type of game.

Lol, it's not a completely different defense.

When they play a good offense, the get smoked.

They don't exactly have the toughest schedule.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on November 28, 2011, 05:09:25 PM
Lol, it's not a completely different defense.

When they play a good offense, the get smoked.

They don't exactly have the toughest schedule.

Now you're just not giving the defense credit.

Sure, they have an AFC west schedule, but so what? They are playing a lot better than they did early on in the season. The defense has absolutely been doing a much better job than they had previously.

If you're saying they haven't then I guess we are at an impasse because apparently I'm not watching the same football games you are.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 28, 2011, 05:22:09 PM
No, i'm not giving their defense 100% credit for the run they're on. You are.


Fact is, the broncos running game has improved dramatically during this 6-1 stretch. It eats clock and keeps the defense off the field. And to the defense's credit, they're getting big stops when asked to, albeit against bad to mediocre offenses.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on December 04, 2011, 02:05:47 PM
Tebow had a good game. 200 yards in the air and a small amount on the ground.

Looked good.

That Defense is still where the magic is. That pick with 1:45 left was all she wrote.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 04, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
4th quarter is Tebow Time !!!!! 6-1 haters !!!!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: CalvinH on December 04, 2011, 06:33:20 PM
Tebow had a good game. 200 yards in the air and a small amount on the groused.

Looked good.

That Defense is still where the magic is. That pick with 1:45 left was all she wrote.


Groused ???  did he go hunting ??? ;D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: tu_holmes on December 04, 2011, 06:34:00 PM

Groused ???  did he go hunting ??? ;D

Damn iphone... "ground".

:P


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on December 05, 2011, 10:03:34 PM
4th quarter is Tebow Time !!!!! 6-1 haters !!!!

Incredible run by the young man.  And he stepped up when his defense didn't play well, without one of their best players on D. 


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on December 06, 2011, 08:10:33 AM
he has beat me into submission. Only a pure hater would spit at what this kid has done as a player and a leader.



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Dos Equis on December 06, 2011, 12:29:15 PM
he has beat me into submission. Only a pure hater would spit at what this kid has done as a player and a leader.



lol.   :)  Agree.  Very good of you to admit that. 

Hard not to root for the kid.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 06, 2011, 05:43:51 PM
Tebow wins, bottom line. The won-loss record backs it up. I just hope Mcgahee breaks loose in the triple option offense, come playoff time in fantasy football!


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 07, 2011, 02:56:56 PM
he has beat me into submission. Only a pure hater would spit at what this kid has done as a player and a leader.



(http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tebow-time-tattoo.jpg)



Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Option D on December 07, 2011, 03:19:34 PM
(http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/tebow-time-tattoo.jpg)


AMAZING


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 07, 2011, 03:21:52 PM
AMAZING

I just knew some white dude would get it and well, there ya go.  :D


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 08, 2011, 09:56:47 AM
he has beat me into submission. Only a pure hater would spit at what this kid has done as a player and a leader.



Very cool of you to admit it, not that I am surprised.  honestly, when he was a freshman at UF and splitting playing time, i didn't understand the hype.  Weird throwing motion, etc... but the more you watch him you realize he is just an incredible leader and has that "it" factor x 100000000000.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 11, 2011, 04:22:54 PM
WHAT THE HAHAHA!!!  AGAIN!!!!!! Tebow Time!!!! 

Great game!!!


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 11, 2011, 04:24:07 PM
Im pretty impressed, his supporting cast obviously has a lot to do with it but the man has passion.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: MB_722 on December 11, 2011, 04:24:31 PM
lol


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: wild willie on December 11, 2011, 09:48:51 PM
Tebow did it again today...

The guy finds a way to win!


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 12, 2011, 01:44:43 AM
Merril Hoge has to be feeling like a great big fucking turd about now lololol....


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: CalvinH on December 12, 2011, 06:30:17 AM
Merril Hoge has to be feeling like a great big fucking turd about now lololol....


He actually said he was wrong this morning on Mike and Mike.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 12, 2011, 09:17:53 AM

He actually said he was wrong this morning on Mike and Mike.

Love it.....all these "experts" having to backtrack when so many of us "fans" knew the real deal.  Bunch of overpaid clowns blowing smoke half the time....you could pick a random fan from most stadiums on any given Sunday and they could give you the same "analysis" as most of these guys.  Hoge should have used the excuse that he had a concussion and didn't remember saying that.  He used to get them if the wind blew too hard.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 12, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
Tebow did it again today...

The guy finds a way to win!

I wouldn't be so quick to say Tebow is starring in the NFL yet.  Sure Denver is winning games with him but he hasn't shown that he can be a true QB yet.  I mean he was 3 of 16 yesterday until the end of the game when the Bears were playing off and they lost the game, Denver didn't win it.  BTW I am not a Bears fan at all.


Title: Re: Tebow
Post by: Grape Ape on December 12, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
he has beat me into submission. Only a pure hater would spit at what this kid has done as a player and a leader.



Let me know when you want your name changed to Option T.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2011, 01:15:26 PM
I wouldn't be so quick to say Tebow is starring in the NFL yet.  Sure Denver is winning games with him but he hasn't shown that he can be a true QB yet.  I mean he was 3 of 16 yesterday until the end of the game when the Bears were playing off and they lost the game, Denver didn't win it.  BTW I am not a Bears fan at all.

He was 3-16 with 6 dropped passes. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2011, 01:17:13 PM
This is such a great story.  Really funny to watch and listen to the haters. 

Saw Stephen A. Smith this morning on ESPN.  He was totally humbled.  Pretty funny.   :)

Skip Bayless, who I think is generally a blowhard, has been right on the money about Tebow. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 12, 2011, 01:21:29 PM
This is such a great story.  Really funny to watch and listen to the haters. 

Saw Stephen A. Smith this morning on ESPN.  He was totally humbled.  Pretty funny.   :)

Skip Bayless, who I think is generally a blowhard, has been right on the money about Tebow. 

I'm loving it too. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 12, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
I wouldn't be so quick to say Tebow is starring in the NFL yet.  Sure Denver is winning games with him but he hasn't shown that he can be a true QB yet.  I mean he was 3 of 16 yesterday until the end of the game when the Bears were playing off and they lost the game, Denver didn't win it.  BTW I am not a Bears fan at all.
If you watched the game, a lot of those balls should have been caught.  One that would have been a sure touchdown.  That's not Tebow's fault.  Bears didn't lose the game, we won it.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 12, 2011, 03:30:20 PM
If you watched the game, a lot of those balls should have been caught.  One that would have been a sure touchdown.  That's not Tebow's fault.  Bears didn't lose the game, we won it.

Tell me why the Bronco's lost to the shitty Lions?  ??? ???


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2011, 05:14:38 PM
Tell me why the Bronco's lost to the shitty Lions?  ??? ???

The same Lions that are 8-5 and were 5-2 when they played Denver? 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2011, 10:09:49 AM
lol

Urlacher on Tebow: 'He’s a good running back'
Comments
By Nate Davis, USA TODAY
Updated 23h 35m ago

Probably safe not to count Bears MLB Brian Urlacher among the big believers in Denver's Tim Tebow as a bona fide NFL quarterback even after Chicago's 13-10 OT loss to the Broncos on Sunday.

"He's a good running back," Urlacher said in his assessment of Tebow.

"He does a good job for them. They have a good offense with him back there. They do some different plays. I thought we did a good job overall."

Asked specifically about Tebow's passing proficiency -- he was 3-for-16 for 45 yards with an INT through three quarters before going 18-for-24 for 191 yards with a TD down the stretch and improving to 7-1 as Denver's starter -- Urlacher also offered somewhat faint praise: "Scrambles well, gets guys scrambling around and, you know, we just gotta plaster (cover) our guy and fight him, don't let him do that."

Urlacher suggested the Bears were able to shut down Tebow when they were playing with a single safety deep and only started relenting yards when they switched to their patented Cover-2 look late in the game while trying to protect a 10-0 fourth-quarter lead.

"They kind of went down the field and scored on us," he said.

"We just didn't make plays when we had a chance. That's what it comes down to. And they did."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/12/bears-mlb-brian-urlacher-on-broncos-qb-tim-tebow-hes-a-good-running-back/1


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 13, 2011, 11:32:14 AM
"they kind of went down the field and scored on us."


hahaha, "kind of"   C'mon man.   If you want to point fingers at the reason look no further than Marion Barber.  Bailed out of bounds and gave Denver about 35 extra seconds and then the big fumble.  I guess its good that Urlacher isn't throwing his teammate under the bus, but why all the backhanded "compliments."  Bottom line, you got Tebowed bro!  ;D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 13, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Skip Bayless went off on Chris Carter and owned him today.  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgrp8Fmxky0

Chris Carter was thinking, "God, i wish i still had some Crack."  :D :D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 13, 2011, 09:53:39 PM
Skip Bayless went off on Chris Carter and owned him today.  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgrp8Fmxky0

Chris Carter was thinking, "God, i wish i still had some Crack."  :D :D


 ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d3U94atcG4


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: wild willie on December 14, 2011, 08:57:32 AM
I wouldn't be so quick to say Tebow is starring in the NFL yet.  Sure Denver is winning games with him but he hasn't shown that he can be a true QB yet.  I mean he was 3 of 16 yesterday until the end of the game when the Bears were playing off and they lost the game, Denver didn't win it.  BTW I am not a Bears fan at all.
yo doug.....just pointing out that he is playing inspired ball.....he is a winner and the broncos could get in the playoffs....they have a tough task this week though....playing the patriots.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 14, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
Skip Bayless went off on Chris Carter and owned him today.  8)

Chris Carter was thinking, "God, i wish i still had some Crack."  :D :D

Damn, that was heated!!!  The one thing I wish Skip would have told Carter that he didn't was that when Carter kept saying "what did he say to his team?"  Skip should have responded more loudly that maybe he doesn't need to run his mouth the "inspire" people.  also Carter having to say to Skip after Skip pointed out he has no SB rings  "I got the same number as you!"  hahahaha, priceless. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2011, 03:54:50 PM
Damn, that was heated!!!  The one thing I wish Skip would have told Carter that he didn't was that when Carter kept saying "what did he say to his team?"  Skip should have responded more loudly that maybe he doesn't need to run his mouth the "inspire" people.  also Carter having to say to Skip after Skip pointed out he has no SB rings  "I got the same number as you!"  hahahaha, priceless. 

skip bayless... prob didnt make the park league team as a child... he is a blowhard and he is like 1 for 1000 with his "Opinions"


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 14, 2011, 03:56:56 PM
skip bayless... prob didnt make the park league team as a child... he is a blowhard and he is like 1 for 1000 with his "Opinions"

Calling out Chris Carter just made that episode for me very sweet. I think we all know why.  ;)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2011, 04:02:48 PM
Calling out Chris Carter just made that episode for me very sweet. I think we all know why.  ;)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/892412-skip-bayless-exemplifies-all-thats-wrong-with-sports-journalism-today


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 14, 2011, 06:05:11 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/892412-skip-bayless-exemplifies-all-thats-wrong-with-sports-journalism-today

Ya know i agree with ya, but i cannot stand the Bleacherreport.  :-\ Just remember where Chris Carter went to school.  :D His son, Duron Carter is even dumber then his is. I mean, i do not know how you have a GPA of 0.8 at O$U and wonder why you failed?  ::) ::) Alabama took his son and he is failing there too. Bayless is a jackass though, but he is really good at what he does and that is why ESPN keeps him around.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 15, 2011, 10:33:30 AM
Did you watch today?  They had Flutie, a guy who actually knows something about playing QB in an unorthodox way and he agreed with Skip on a bunch of stuff as Stephen A. sat quietly like a bullfrog.  hahaha



Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 11:36:53 AM
Did you watch today?  They had Flutie, a guy who actually knows something about playing QB in an unorthodox way and he agreed with Skip on a bunch of stuff as Stephen A. sat quietly like a bullfrog.  hahaha



Sorry I missed it.   :)  Somebody post a clip if you can find it.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 15, 2011, 02:13:03 PM
Oh god ::)  When all fails, the douchebag plays the race card on Tebow...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ0sU5-huJM


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
That's stupid.  Race has nothing to do with Tebow or the opportunity he has been given.  In fact, I can't recall a QB getting the kind of negative scrutiny he has gotten so early in his career. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 15, 2011, 02:28:55 PM
That's stupid.  Race has nothing to do with Tebow or the opportunity he has been given.  In fact, I can't recall a QB getting the kind of negative scrutiny he has gotten so early in his career. 

Steve Young did if i re-call.....and so did Randall Cunningham...maybe Warren Moon.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 02:49:49 PM
Steve Young did if i re-call.....and so did Randall Cunningham...maybe Warren Moon.

Are you kidding?  No they didn't.  Not even close.  Even that dog Jamarcus Russell didn't get this kind of scrutiny only a few games into his career. 

Just look at Gabbart this year.  He's horrible, but you don't hear squat about that. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 15, 2011, 05:46:41 PM
Sorry I missed it.   :)  Somebody post a clip if you can find it.

He's a rapper now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMK9FKMG3Nc

 :D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 15, 2011, 08:23:06 PM
Are you kidding?  No they didn't.  Not even close.  Even that dog Jamarcus Russell didn't get this kind of scrutiny only a few games into his career. 

Just look at Gabbart this year.  He's horrible, but you don't hear squat about that. 

Steve Young got CRUSHED by the media... Until he won a Super Bowl he was always just the guy that sat behind Montana.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 16, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
Steve Young got CRUSHED by the media... Until he won a Super Bowl he was always just the guy that sat behind Montana.


The issue was scrutiny of a QB in his first year.  That didn't happen to Young.  Nobody cared about him when his career started with the worst team in the NFL (Tampa Bay) and nobody cared when he sat behind Montana.  The scrutiny with him was whether he could fill Montana's shoes and win the Super Bowl, not whether he was good enough to play QB in the NFL.  No comparison to Tebow at all. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 18, 2011, 04:26:08 PM
Bummer...  We sure helped them out today.  Not Tebow's fault.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 19, 2011, 06:31:21 AM
The issue was scrutiny of a QB in his first year.  That didn't happen to Young.  Nobody cared about him when his career started with the worst team in the NFL (Tampa Bay) and nobody cared when he sat behind Montana.  The scrutiny with him was whether he could fill Montana's shoes and win the Super Bowl, not whether he was good enough to play QB in the NFL.  No comparison to Tebow at all. 

tebows not in his first year


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 19, 2011, 06:55:01 AM
Bummer...  We sure helped them out today.  Not Tebow's fault.
 

But it was Tebow winning all those games, right?

I guess it was too cold for Tebow and the weather is at fault.

I know, it was the Gloves he was wearing fault because the gloves made him drop balls.

I know, it was the cleats he was wearing.

It was also the cleats fault that caused him to run 29 yards backwards.

Tebow had all he needed to win that game: Playoff atmosphere, at home, playing against a shitty NE Defense and with NE loosing Carter made it easier and still it is someone's else's fault.

He got exposed by a Shitty New England Defense!


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 19, 2011, 07:09:29 AM
 

But it was Tebow winning all those games, right?

I guess it was too cold for Tebow and the weather is at fault.

I know, it was the Gloves he was wearing fault because the gloves made him drop balls.

I know, it was the cleats he was wearing.

It was also the cleats fault that caused him to run 29 yards backwards.

Tebow had all he needed to win that game: Playoff atmosphere, at home, playing against a shitty NE Defense and with NE loosing Carter made it easier and still it is someone's else's fault.

He got exposed by a Shitty New England Defense!


Lol, what?

Tebow played like tebow. They ran the ball great. But the broncos defense played a great offense and got smoked.

What? did you think the broncos could win a shootout with the pats? Lol @ criticizing tebow for this loss.

Because tebow gave up 42 points.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 19, 2011, 07:12:37 AM
Lol, what?

Tebow played like tebow. They ran the ball great. But the broncos defense played a great offense and got smoked.

What? did you think the broncos could win a shootout with the pats? Lol @ criticizing tebow for this loss.

Because tebow gave up 42 points.

Tebow gets all the credit when they won every game!

What happened to, "The Pats have no chance"  ??? ???

 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 19, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
Tebow gets all the credit when they won every game!

What happened to, "The Pats have no chance"  ??? ???

 

Lol, no he doesn't. He's gotten credit for the comebacks. Other than that, he's getting attention because he's helping them win in an unorthodox fashion.

They won like 7 games in a row before yesterday, with tim tebow starting. Did you think the media wasn't going to run with that?


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 19, 2011, 07:51:21 AM
Lol, no he doesn't. He's gotten credit for the comebacks. Other than that, he's getting attention because he's helping them win in an unorthodox fashion.

They won like 7 games in a row before yesterday, with tim tebow starting. Did you think the media wasn't going to run with that?

I have been waiting for this for many years.  8)

Tebow > Manning, Unitas, Elway, Brady, Montana, Starbauch, Aikman, Young, Rodgers, fouts, Farve, Brees and Tarkenton

Tebow is better than all of them combined!

All he does is win!

He has never lost a game in high school, college, NFL...IT DID NOT HAPPEN


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 19, 2011, 11:11:06 AM
tebows not in his first year

Hair splitting.  He started 3 games last year and 9 this year.  He has attempted 302 passes.  That's essentially a first year QB.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 19, 2011, 11:18:49 AM
Hair splitting.  He started 3 games last year and 9 this year.  He has attempted 302 passes.  That's essentially a first year QB.

Wow.. really.. dude he had a whole season in an nfl team.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 19, 2011, 11:20:01 AM
Wow.. really.. dude he had a whole season in an nfl team.

Tebow was too busy to study the playbook, watch film, practice,..etc.



Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 19, 2011, 11:20:58 AM
Tebow was too busy to study the playbook, watch film, practice,..etc.



busy multiplying fish or turning water into wine


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 19, 2011, 11:28:26 AM
Wow.. really.. dude he had a whole season in an nfl team.

Absurd.  You know good and well there is a night and day difference between getting scout team reps in practice, holding a clipboard on game day, and starting on Sundays. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 19, 2011, 11:36:45 AM
busy multiplying fish or turning water into wine

He was also busy walking on water.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 19, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Wow.. really.. dude he had a whole season in an nfl team.

Didn't you know that a backup QB doesn't count as a QB until he actually throws?

::)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 19, 2011, 02:58:06 PM
 

But it was Tebow winning all those games, right?

I guess it was too cold for Tebow and the weather is at fault.

I know, it was the Gloves he was wearing fault because the gloves made him drop balls.

I know, it was the cleats he was wearing.

It was also the cleats fault that caused him to run 29 yards backwards.

Tebow had all he needed to win that game: Playoff atmosphere, at home, playing against a shitty NE Defense and with NE loosing Carter made it easier and still it is someone's else's fault.

He got exposed by a Shitty New England Defense!

::)  I never fucking said it was Tebow winning all those games.  He played a role in winning those games.  The only thing I've thought is that it was fucking stupid as all hell for so many people to go ballistic in their assessment without even giving the guy much of a chance.  There was absolute rage by many that the guy was even allowed to play the position in the NFL.  I think he's shown that he deserves that chance.

Not many have won against NE this year even with their shitty defense...  We also had quite a few really stupid mistakes, turnovers and penalties that were totally our fault in this game and not in line with the way we've been playing.  I'm not saying we would have won without all this but we sure helped them out more than we help us out.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 20, 2011, 10:30:04 AM
::)  I never fucking said it was Tebow winning all those games.  He played a role in winning those games.  The only thing I've thought is that it was fucking stupid as all hell for so many people to go ballistic in their assessment without even giving the guy much of a chance.  There was absolute rage by many that the guy was even allowed to play the position in the NFL.  I think he's shown that he deserves that chance.

Not many have won against NE this year even with their shitty defense...  We also had quite a few really stupid mistakes, turnovers and penalties that were totally our fault in this game and not in line with the way we've been playing.  I'm not saying we would have won without all this but we sure helped them out more than we help us out.


I agree on all points.  The Patriots didn't so much "expose" Tebow as they "exposed" the Denver defense.  Brady and Bellichick are as good a combo at QB/Coach as the NFL has ever seen.  Nothing embarassing about losing to them, especially after Denver started out 1-4. 

QB get too much credit when a team wins and too much when they lose.  Has always been that way in the NFL, college, HS, peewee.....


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 21, 2011, 02:37:54 AM
I wanna add another thing about Tebow that the haters are not considering.  Broncos fans over the last (way too many) years have watched a team that is willing to just give up as soon as it gets hard.  Kyle Orton didn't help things one bit, this guy was a fucking zombie on a good day--zero passion, zero motivation.  Tebow came in and motivated the fucking hell out of this team to the point that I can be happy as hell even on the days they do lose.  As a long time Broncos fan, Tebow is what this team needed fucking bigtime.  I haven't seen this kind of thrill around the Broncos since Elway.  He's brought some serious excitement to the games that we have not seen in a long ass time.  

Who knows, Tebow may never take us to the prize but I know one thing for sure, it's going to be totally exciting as hell watching Tebow and the Broncos try and that's all I could possibly dream of or hope for.  I'm fucking psyched and loving every minute of this and that's everything good football should be!!!


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 21, 2011, 06:20:28 AM
I feel sorry for the people of Denver, You are in for a huge letdown. Think about it.. as soon as teams stop doing dumb shit like goin to a nickel package against Tebow and finally throw 8 in the box... this shit is over

Think about it.. Dude has the QB attributes of a high School QB. Not a great passer.. And before you guys talk about "oh he had 190 yards in that one game"
Go back and look at it, he had like 12 check downs. And 2 of them went for big yards.
But back to the issue at hand. What does a decent High School QB do? Check primary read and then take off. It works a lot, especially when the QB can run. But seriously. If im a Defensive Coordinator, run a high school defense against a high school like QB. 4-4 Stack. Bring 6. Run man or 3 (on the outsides. let the middle go.

These idiots going to the 4-3, hella running cover 2 like he is doing the west coast offense is retarded to me. 4-4 cov 3.. throws 8 in the box and protects against the grenade ball. With Tebow, coaches need to reach back into their high school days and prepare for that.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 21, 2011, 08:09:44 AM
Game plan against him? So haters are accepting that tebow can play now?

It's like, at first the very thought of him playing qb was a joke..

then it was "oh he'll never start in the league"..

to "are they serious? he'll never win anything playing like that"...

to "this is a fluke, it will never last"..

(after reeling off like 7 strait)  "wait until teams game plan against him"...

The bears already shut tebow down for the most part. The broncos still won the game. They have won games despite tebow playing bad.  He's already stunk it up! Why the hell are people still waiting on some monumental failure from tebow? Take it for what it is.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
John Elway endorses Tim Tebow
ESPN.com news services

A year ago, John Elway agreed to another comeback with his beloved Denver Broncos shortly after the ouster of Josh McDaniels, whom many felt had doomed the franchise to mediocrity for years to come.

The Hall of Famer has pulled all the right strings in rapidly reversing the team's fortunes.

And for all those fans worried that the Broncos' boss isn't completely sold on Tim Tebow and might put the unorthodox quarterback on the trading block this winter, relax. Elway said the city's new comeback king is here to stay.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Elway gave his strongest indication yet that he believes Tebow can morph from a scrambling quarterback into a pocket passer, which suggests he won't be spending a high draft pick on another QB in April.

"Tim Tebow's not going anywhere," Elway said. "I mean, he's going to be a Bronco and we're going to do everything we can and hopefully he's that guy."

Elway's endorsement meant a lot to Tebow.

"Mr. Elway is obviously one of the best to ever play the game. To get any compliment from him is extremely nice," Tebow said Tuesday. "He's been around this game a long time. That's nice to hear."

Elway, who led Denver to five Super Bowls and two titles during his playing career, reiterated his intention to work with Tebow during the offseason, something he couldn't do last offseason because of the NFL lockout.

. . .

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7372694/denver-broncos-john-elway-gives-tim-tebow-strongest-endorsement-yet


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 21, 2011, 09:48:20 AM
Game plan against him? So haters are accepting that tebow can play now?

It's like, at first the very thought of him playing qb was a joke..

then it was "oh he'll never start in the league"..

to "are they serious? he'll never win anything playing like that"...

to "this is a fluke, it will never last"..

(after reeling off like 7 strait)  "wait until teams game plan against him"...

The bears already shut tebow down for the most part. The broncos still won the game. They have won games despite tebow playing bad.  He's already stunk it up! Why the hell are people still waiting on some monumental failure from tebow? Take it for what it is.


Relax hoss..who is a hater? Im just making an observation. I have no hate for the guy at all. I hope they play the Steelers in the playoffs


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 21, 2011, 02:27:27 PM
I feel sorry for the people of Denver, You are in for a huge letdown. Think about it.. as soon as teams stop doing dumb shit like goin to a nickel package against Tebow and finally throw 8 in the box... this shit is over

Think about it.. Dude has the QB attributes of a high School QB. Not a great passer.. And before you guys talk about "oh he had 190 yards in that one game"
Go back and look at it, he had like 12 check downs. And 2 of them went for big yards.
But back to the issue at hand. What does a decent High School QB do? Check primary read and then take off. It works a lot, especially when the QB can run. But seriously. If im a Defensive Coordinator, run a high school defense against a high school like QB. 4-4 Stack. Bring 6. Run man or 3 (on the outsides. let the middle go.

These idiots going to the 4-3, hella running cover 2 like he is doing the west coast offense is retarded to me. 4-4 cov 3.. throws 8 in the box and protects against the grenade ball. With Tebow, coaches need to reach back into their high school days and prepare for that.
You sound like this dude lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLHJ6SQIXE


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Butterbean on December 22, 2011, 08:10:39 AM
I haven't read this thread but the last Broncos game it seemed like Tebow front line was extremely weak.  First Broncos game I've paid attention to in a long time...did they (the front line) seem weak or is that how they always play?


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 24, 2011, 12:48:09 PM
Tebow is looking great today.  :D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 24, 2011, 12:50:48 PM
Tebow is looking great today.  :D

So is the o-line.....yikes.  Actually helps my sorry-ass Chargers to maybe be able to backdoor into the playoffs and get smashed by somebody.




Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 24, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Tebow is looking great today.  :D

I got called out last week saying Tebow wouldn't win another game this year.

thread here .  Buffalo made him look awful. 4 INT's. Now just wait until he goes up against a Romeo Crennel defense next week.

Looks like I'm spot on going into the last game of the year.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=406209.0


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 24, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
So is the o-line.....yikes.  Actually helps my sorry-ass Chargers to maybe be able to backdoor into the playoffs and get smashed by somebody.




You can't blame an offensive line when the first move of the QB is to get outside the pocket :-\


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 24, 2011, 04:29:18 PM
Pretty bad meltdown for the kid today. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 24, 2011, 06:31:11 PM
You can't blame an offensive line when the first move of the QB is to get outside the pocket :-\

Ummmmm, the team is supposed to be a running team.  O-line was awful with no running game, Denver fell behind and Tebow isn't that type of QB.  Not to mention he was hurried/hit/sacked about 20 times in the game.  He didn't play well, obviously, but no QB does with that lousy of o-line play.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 24, 2011, 06:44:51 PM
Ummmmm, the team is supposed to be a running team.  O-line was awful with no running game, Denver fell behind and Tebow isn't that type of QB.  Not to mention he was hurried/hit/sacked about 20 times in the game.  He didn't play well, obviously, but no QB does with that lousy of o-line play.

Hi Skip Bayless.  ;)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 25, 2011, 07:43:18 AM
Hi Skip Bayless.  ;)
lmao


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 25, 2011, 08:00:49 AM
Ummmmm, the team is supposed to be a running team.  O-line was awful with no running game, Denver fell behind and Tebow isn't that type of QB.  Not to mention he was hurried/hit/sacked about 20 times in the game.  He didn't play well, obviously, but no QB does with that lousy of o-line play.

They also need to get him some WRs and a TE.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 25, 2011, 11:01:33 AM
They also need to get him some WRs and a TE.

Get a QB and turn him into a TE.

He would be a beast.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 25, 2011, 11:24:47 AM
Get a QB and turn him into a TE.

He would be a beast.

I could see Tebow like a Rob Gronkowski type of TE.  8)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 26, 2011, 10:20:53 AM
Hi Skip Bayless.  ;)

 ;D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 27, 2011, 07:24:12 AM
;D

You still wanna compare Cam to Tebow or has that ship sailed?


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 27, 2011, 07:28:15 AM
Killa Cam
3,893    Passing Yards
20 TDS  Passing

674       Rush Yards
14 TDS  Rushing


Absolute beast


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2011, 10:58:33 AM
Killa Cam
3,893    Passing Yards
20 TDS  Passing

674       Rush Yards
14 TDS  Rushing


Absolute beast

Also thrown 16 INTs and his team is 6-9, but he has definitely had a remarkable season for a rookie.  Very impressive. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 27, 2011, 04:44:06 PM
Also thrown 16 INTs and his team is 6-9, but he has definitely had a remarkable season for a rookie.  Very impressive. 

word ::)


yea 34 Total tds vs 16 ints and over 4500 total yards...as a rookie


rank 4 in total offense and 5 in points per game (26)... it aint because of Cam carolina loses. Go look up stats defense gives up games... 85 passer rating


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2011, 05:23:17 PM
word ::)


yea 34 Total tds vs 16 ints and over 4500 total yards...as a rookie


rank 4 in total offense and 5 in points per game (26)... it aint because of Cam carolina loses. Go look up stats defense gives up games... 85 passer rating

Dude.  I said it was a remarkable season for a rookie and very impressive.  I don't need to look up anything.  Just stating the facts.  His INTs and his team's win/loss record might be the reason Andy Dalton wins ROY of the over him.  It matters. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 27, 2011, 05:31:34 PM
 :o

Report: Tim Tebow an AFC alternate
ESPN.com news services

NEW YORK -- Tom Brady is one of eight Patriots and Patrick Willis one of eight 49ers to make the Pro Bowl, the most on each roster.

Defending Super Bowl champion Green Bay (14-1), led by starting quarterback Aaron Rodgers, and Baltimore (11-4), led by veteran linebacker Ray Lewis, have seven apiece for the Jan. 29 game in Honolulu, the NFL announced Tuesday.

"If you look around the NFC, you see a ton of amazing and talented players at tight end," said the Saints' Jimmy Graham, the starter at the position and a first-time Pro Bowler. "And to be thought of in that company by my peers, the head coaches and the fans who follow the NFL is something I take seriously."

Fourteen teams from each conference were represented, with St. Louis (2-13) and Washington (5-10) drawing blanks in the NFC, Buffalo (6-9) and Tennessee (8-7) shut out in the AFC.

Pittsburgh (11-4), New Orleans and Chicago (7-8) each had five representatives.

Three rookies were chosen: Denver linebacker Von Miller, Cincinnati receiver A.J. Green, and Arizona cornerback Patrick Peterson, selected as a kick return specialist. He has tied an NFL record with four punt runbacks for TDs this season.

"As I've said before, A.J. is the best first-round draft pick that I've ever been around," Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said. "He has shown the other players in this league, and the fans, that he deserved this honor. I have not seen a receiver better than he is at getting to the ball."

All the kickers are from Bay Area teams.

NFC special teamers included two 49ers: record-setting placekicker David Akers, and punter Andy Lee; Peterson; and Corey Graham of Chicago.

For the AFC, the Raiders' Sebastian Janikowski is the placekicker, Shane Lechler the punter. The kick return specialist is Pittsburgh WR Antonio Brown, and the special-teams player is Slater.

NFC starters will be Rodgers, Eagles RB LeSean McCoy, Packers FB John Kuhn, Graham, Panthers C Ryan Kalil, Saints guards Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks, Eagles tackle Jason Peters and Staley, Cardinals WR Larry Fitzgerald and Lions WR Calvin Johnson on offense.

On defense, it will be Vikings DE Jared Allen and Eagles DE Jason Babin, Cowboys DT Jay Ratliff and Smith, Packers OLB Clay Matthews and Cowboys OLB DeMarcus Ware, ILB Willis, Packers CB Charles Woodson and Rogers, Seahawks safety Earl Thomas and Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson.

AFC starters will be Brady, Ravens RB Ray Rice and FB Vonta Leach, Gronkowski, Steelers C Maurkice Pouncey, Mankins and Waters at guard, Browns tackles Joe Thomas and Dolphins tackle Jake Long, Welker and Steelers WR Mike Wallace.

On defense, it will be Broncos DE Elvis Dumervil replacing Carter, Colts DE Dwight Freeney, Wilfork and Ravens DT Haloti Ngata, Miller and Ravens OLB Terrell Suggs, Lewis, Jets CB Darrelle Revis and Broncos CB Champ Bailey, Steelers safety Troy Polamalu and Ravens safety Ed Reed.

Players who make the Super Bowl will be replaced on the Pro Bowl rosters.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7394336/2012-pro-bowl-san-francisco-49ers-new-england-patriots-eight-players-chosen


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 27, 2011, 05:41:06 PM
:o

Report: Tim Tebow an AFC alternate
ESPN.com news services

NEW YORK -- Tom Brady is one of eight Patriots and Patrick Willis one of eight 49ers to make the Pro Bowl, the most on each roster.

Defending Super Bowl champion Green Bay (14-1), led by starting quarterback Aaron Rodgers, and Baltimore (11-4), led by veteran linebacker Ray Lewis, have seven apiece for the Jan. 29 game in Honolulu, the NFL announced Tuesday.

"If you look around the NFC, you see a ton of amazing and talented players at tight end," said the Saints' Jimmy Graham, the starter at the position and a first-time Pro Bowler. "And to be thought of in that company by my peers, the head coaches and the fans who follow the NFL is something I take seriously."

Fourteen teams from each conference were represented, with St. Louis (2-13) and Washington (5-10) drawing blanks in the NFC, Buffalo (6-9) and Tennessee (8-7) shut out in the AFC.

Pittsburgh (11-4), New Orleans and Chicago (7-8) each had five representatives.

Three rookies were chosen: Denver linebacker Von Miller, Cincinnati receiver A.J. Green, and Arizona cornerback Patrick Peterson, selected as a kick return specialist. He has tied an NFL record with four punt runbacks for TDs this season.

"As I've said before, A.J. is the best first-round draft pick that I've ever been around," Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said. "He has shown the other players in this league, and the fans, that he deserved this honor. I have not seen a receiver better than he is at getting to the ball."

All the kickers are from Bay Area teams.

NFC special teamers included two 49ers: record-setting placekicker David Akers, and punter Andy Lee; Peterson; and Corey Graham of Chicago.

For the AFC, the Raiders' Sebastian Janikowski is the placekicker, Shane Lechler the punter. The kick return specialist is Pittsburgh WR Antonio Brown, and the special-teams player is Slater.

NFC starters will be Rodgers, Eagles RB LeSean McCoy, Packers FB John Kuhn, Graham, Panthers C Ryan Kalil, Saints guards Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks, Eagles tackle Jason Peters and Staley, Cardinals WR Larry Fitzgerald and Lions WR Calvin Johnson on offense.

On defense, it will be Vikings DE Jared Allen and Eagles DE Jason Babin, Cowboys DT Jay Ratliff and Smith, Packers OLB Clay Matthews and Cowboys OLB DeMarcus Ware, ILB Willis, Packers CB Charles Woodson and Rogers, Seahawks safety Earl Thomas and Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson.

AFC starters will be Brady, Ravens RB Ray Rice and FB Vonta Leach, Gronkowski, Steelers C Maurkice Pouncey, Mankins and Waters at guard, Browns tackles Joe Thomas and Dolphins tackle Jake Long, Welker and Steelers WR Mike Wallace.

On defense, it will be Broncos DE Elvis Dumervil replacing Carter, Colts DE Dwight Freeney, Wilfork and Ravens DT Haloti Ngata, Miller and Ravens OLB Terrell Suggs, Lewis, Jets CB Darrelle Revis and Broncos CB Champ Bailey, Steelers safety Troy Polamalu and Ravens safety Ed Reed.

Players who make the Super Bowl will be replaced on the Pro Bowl rosters.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7394336/2012-pro-bowl-san-francisco-49ers-new-england-patriots-eight-players-chosen

Who gives a shit?

Matt Stafford who led the lions to their 1st playoff appearance in over 10 years and had 3 times the stats of Tebow and a much better team record didn't get a pro bowl pick?

Shows how stupid these fools are.



Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 28, 2011, 06:07:27 AM
Who gives a shit?

Matt Stafford who led the lions to their 1st playoff appearance in over 10 years and had 3 times the stats of Tebow and a much better team record didn't get a pro bowl pick?

Shows how stupid these fools are.



if you state facts... youre hating ::)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 28, 2011, 06:23:08 AM
Let's just say 3,893 yards passing, 674 yards rushing and 34 touchdowns by land and air is pretty damn good.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 28, 2011, 06:26:12 AM
Dude.  I said it was a remarkable season for a rookie and very impressive.  I don't need to look up anything.  Just stating the facts.  His INTs and his team's win/loss record might be the reason Andy Dalton wins ROY of the over him.  It matters. 

Ok..
25.9 pts per game (5th in the NFL)
395.7 yards (4th in the nfl)

It isnt his fault they are losing. Not by a long shot.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 28, 2011, 12:46:54 PM
You still wanna compare Cam to Tebow or has that ship sailed?

6-9 vs 7-3......no contest.   ;D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 28, 2011, 01:17:11 PM
6-9 vs 7-3......no contest.   ;D
see 2 posts above


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 07:39:04 PM
Who gives a shit?

Matt Stafford who led the lions to their 1st playoff appearance in over 10 years and had 3 times the stats of Tebow and a much better team record didn't get a pro bowl pick?

Shows how stupid these fools are.


Matt stafford didnt lead the lions to the playoffs the defense did...

Tebow did an amazing job with limited talent around him offensively, the lions have one of the best receivers in the game.

I dont think you can argue that stafford didnt do a good job this season or that he is a more rounded qb that is better than tebow at the moment.

But if you compare whos performance has been a bigger success over what was expected tebow wins hands down.

I dont think tebow is a great qb and he definitely has alot of work to do but he did some amazing things this season.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
Matt stafford didnt lead the lions to the playoffs the defense did...

Tebow did an amazing job with limited talent around him offensively, the lions have one of the best receivers in the game.

I dont think you can argue that stafford didnt do a good job this season or that he is a more rounded qb that is better than tebow at the moment.

But if you compare whos performance has been a bigger success over what was expected tebow wins hands down.

I dont think tebow is a great qb and he definitely has alot of work to do but he did some amazing things this season.

Tebow did what you would expect someone to have with a defense that for 8 games played better than almost every other defense in the league.

So, no... I don't think it's some limited talent thing.

The fact is that Tebow getting a pro bowl nod is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Tebow did what you would expect someone to have with a defense that for 8 games played better than almost every other defense in the league.

So, no... I don't think it's some limited talent thing.

The fact is that Tebow getting a pro bowl nod is ridiculous.
LOL how many come from behind wins did he have?

funny you didnt say the same thing about stafford with his stellar defense and better offense...

Im not disagreeing with the probowl I really dont care but to dont discount what tebow has done this season as anything less than amazing.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 07:58:54 PM
LOL how many come from behind wins did he have?

funny you didnt say the same thing about stafford with his stellar defense and better offense...

Im not disagreeing with the probowl I really dont care but to dont discount what tebow has done this season as anything less than amazing.

Again, his come from behind wins were completely due to the fact that his Defense kept them within a score or so... aside from one game which I recall was 2 scores.

I simply add all things up... Stafford has much better stats and more wins... you add all of that up when it comes to pro bowl requirements... Not just because he had some come from behind wins... Hell, the fact they had to "come from behind" so many times should be a negative not a positive.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 08:02:23 PM
Again, his come from behind wins were completely due to the fact that his Defense kept them within a score or so... aside from one game which I recall was 2 scores.

I simply add all things up... Stafford has much better stats and more wins... you add all of that up when it comes to pro bowl requirements... Not just because he had some come from behind wins... Hell, the fact they had to "come from behind" so many times should be a negative not a positive.

right they had nothing to do with that fact that he made how many last minute drives for td's?

how many 2 point conversions to send them to overtime?

The defense definitely played a role in his wins but if you account for tebows wins b/c of that why dont you account for staffords wins b/c of that?



Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 08:03:18 PM
right they had nothing to do with that fact that he made how many last minute drives for td's?

how many 2 point conversions to send them to overtime?

The defense definitely played a role in his wins but if you account for tebows wins b/c of that why dont you account for staffords wins b/c of that?



I do!

That's why Statically Stafford should get a nod over someone like Tebow... His stats are MUCH better... therefore, he has a greater impact on his teams wins.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 08:06:52 PM
I do!

That's why Statically Stafford should get a nod over someone like Tebow... His stats are MUCH better... therefore, he has a greater impact on his teams wins.
LOL stats dont mean impact, you take any decent qb and stick them with the lions and they would put together a similar season.

Not so for any rookie qb in denver.

especially with the scrutiny he has undergone for no reason.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 08:08:31 PM
LOL stats dont mean impact, you take any decent qb and stick them with the lions and they would put together a similar season.

Not so for any rookie qb in denver.

especially with the scrutiny he has undergone for no reason.

We will have to disagree... If Tebow was in Detroit, they would have missed the playoffs.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 08:18:06 PM
We will have to disagree... If Tebow was in Detroit, they would have missed the playoffs.

agreed, but youre comparing a 2nd year qb who is decent on a better team to a rookie who is on for all intents and purposes not a playoff team.

Its an unfair comparison, you take blaine gabbert or jake locker and put them in denver and denvers record is shit and they arent in contention for the playoffs like they are now.

Thats the point im making you cant just compare numbers and stats you have to look at the whole picture.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 08:20:56 PM
agreed, but youre comparing a 2nd year qb who is decent on a better team to a rookie who is on for all intents and purposes not a playoff team.

Its an unfair comparison, you take blaine gabbert or jake locker and put them in denver and denvers record is shit and they arent in contention for the playoffs like they are now.

Thats the point im making you cant just compare numbers and stats you have to look at the whole picture.

That's what I'm doing, which is why Eli shouldn't be a Pro-Bowler over Stafford and Tebow shouldn't be a 2nd alternate.

Tebow is an alternate because his name has been on the front page of CNN every week for the past 10 weeks... win or lose.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 28, 2011, 08:23:35 PM
That's what I'm doing, which is why Eli shouldn't be a Pro-Bowler over Stafford and Tebow shouldn't be a 2nd alternate.

Tebow is an alternate because his name has been on the front page of CNN every week for the past 10 weeks... win or lose.

^^^THIS


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 08:36:20 PM
That's what I'm doing, which is why Eli shouldn't be a Pro-Bowler over Stafford and Tebow shouldn't be a 2nd alternate.

Tebow is an alternate because his name has been on the front page of CNN every week for the past 10 weeks... win or lose.
Again not arguing his pro bowl status only his accomplishments over the season.

I agree and if youre upset about that you should really blame the liberal media and atheist like mahr for making a much bigger deal of his Christianity than should be.

Heaven forbid a person be religious in their public life without getting the panties of secular/atheist types in a wedgie.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 08:39:55 PM
Again not arguing his pro bowl status only his accomplishments over the season.

I agree and if youre upset about that you should really blame the liberal media and atheist like mahr for making a much bigger deal of his Christianity than should be.

Heaven forbid a person be religious in their public life without getting the panties of secular/atheist types in a wedgie.


I don't think that ESPN is the "Liberal" media but they talk about him constantly also... So do Fox news... They all do.

The Liberal side wants to talk about it and the Conservative side wants to talk about it and every damn person who is for Christianity or Against christianity talks about it non-stop.

BUT... if you really want to lay the blame... It's Tebows... and here's why.

The first person to talk about it was him... He did the pro-life commercial for the Super Bowl... HIM... no one else said shit about it until then.

That commercial put his faith SQUARELY on the map and HE made his faith something to talk about in public.

He did it and everyone jumped on both for and against.

I'm quite sure that at least half of the players in the NFL are Christian, but they didn't bring their faith to the front in some commercial.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 08:44:07 PM
I don't think that ESPN is the "Liberal" media but they talk about him constantly also... So do Fox news... They all do.

The Liberal side wants to talk about it and the Conservative side wants to talk about it and every damn person who is for Christianity or Against christianity talks about it non-stop.

BUT... if you really want to lay the blame... It's Tebows... and here's why.

The first person to talk about it was him... He did the pro-life commercial for the Super Bowl... HIM... no one else said shit about it until then.

That commercial put his faith SQUARELY on the map and HE made his faith something to talk about in public.

He did it and everyone jumped on both for and against.

I'm quite sure that at least half of the players in the NFL are Christian, but they didn't bring their faith to the front in some commercial.
the conservative side talks about the liberal smear campaign on him.

Again heaven forbid a sports figure display their religious values...theres nothing wrong with that.

LOL so what if he does put his faith out there, whats wrong with that?

he isnt complaining about the publicity, you guys are!!!



Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 28, 2011, 08:49:01 PM
I do!

That's why Statically Stafford should get a nod over someone like Tebow... His stats are MUCH better... therefore, he has a greater impact on his teams wins.

Over Tebow it shouldn't even be an argument. Hell he should get the nod over Eli.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 08:49:20 PM
the conservative side talks about the liberal smear campaign on him.

Again heaven forbid a sports figure display their religious values...theres nothing wrong with that.

LOL so what if he does put his faith out there, whats wrong with that?

he isnt complaining about the publicity, you guys are!!!



Isn't there a thread we are both on that discusses boycotting someone else because of what they said about Tebow?

Sounds like a complaint to me.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 28, 2011, 08:53:23 PM
Over Tebow it shouldn't even be an argument. Hell he should get the nod over Eli.

The argument should be about Eli and Tebow because Stafford should have gotten the 3rd NFC spot.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 28, 2011, 09:00:54 PM
Isn't there a thread we are both on that discusses boycotting someone else because of what they said about Tebow?

Sounds like a complaint to me.
Tebow isnt complaining about the publicity he is getting, thats your boy mahr and the rest of the atheist/secular goof troop

what tebows fans do is irrelevant as arent part of the equation.

Ppl are complaining about the airtime tebow is getting and pointing to that as a reason but he nor his fans are the ones causing the stir. Its the ppl that are against his stance that are giving him the most attention.

Dont complain about the effects of something that you yourself are doing...pretty simple.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 28, 2011, 09:08:16 PM
Tebow isnt complaining about the publicity he is getting, thats your boy mahr and the rest of the atheist/secular goof troop

what tebows fans do is irrelevant as arent part of the equation.

Ppl are complaining about the airtime tebow is getting and pointing to that as a reason but he nor his fans are the ones causing the stir. Its the ppl that are against his stance that are giving him the most attention.

Dont complain about the effects of something that you yourself are doing...pretty simple.

Again... it's people on both sides doing it.

You seem to only see it as the "liberal media" doing it though.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 29, 2011, 05:15:47 AM
Tony, LOL @ "goof troop" ;D

EVERYONE ELSE, PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE.

This shit about Tebow has gotten way fucking out of control...  It started out with just about everyone on TV/Radio saying Tebow didn't have a chance or didn't even deserve a chance in the NFL.  Then it went to everyone overhyping him after several wins just to covers their fucking asses... good god back off man

From the fans, some wanted him to sit there for a few years under orton before he had a chance.  I was one of the people who yelled like hell to get Tebow in.  I was sick to death, as many other Broncos fans were, of seeing the team just give up as soon as they were 10 points down and Orton goes zombie like at that point.  That fucking ended as soon as Tebow got in.  We might not make the playoffs this year and I really don't give a rats ass to tell you the truth.  All I know is that Tebow brought some exciting football back to Denver and I'm fucking happy as hell with that.  I also believe this guy has the kind of motivation to hone his skills and become a great quarterback and I'm in no fucking hurry to see that because he's making Denver football fun to watch while he improves and that's something we've been missing for a long time.  If you're not a broncos fan, fucking take that shit into consideration in your bitching.  if you don't like the Broncos anyway, what the fuck does it matter to you anyway?  calm down freaking out over Tebow and just let us enjoy how it plays out.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 29, 2011, 07:52:10 AM
who gives a shit. Tim will have another awful game to end the season. Not because i don't like him.. I really don't give a shit about his personal beliefs or anything. But just going off of a football IQ over 12 and a non sports center fan. He is not and will not be the answer. Teams during that 8 game streak were absolutely retarded to go to freaking nickel packages or even 2 safety high looks against this guy. 1 read and take off? go 8 in the box and dare him to throw. He inst accurate at all.... 48% completion rate isn't gonna cut it in the big boy league.

Now to my assertion of Killa Cam.. Some people want to point out his win loss record. I would like to point to the stats that he is responsible for. 5th in scoring offense in the NFL and 4th in Passing Offense in the NFL.  20 passing TDs vs 16int and 14 rushing TDS. Unless youre an absolute asshole, you have to say that this guy isnt the reason they lost. Their defense and the lack of Jon Beason is the reason.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 29, 2011, 09:59:19 AM
who gives a shit. Tim will have another awful game to end the season. Not because i don't like him.. I really don't give a shit about his personal beliefs or anything. But just going off of a football IQ over 12 and a non sports center fan. He is not and will not be the answer. Teams during that 8 game streak were absolutely retarded to go to freaking nickel packages or even 2 safety high looks against this guy. 1 read and take off? go 8 in the box and dare him to throw. He inst accurate at all.... 48% completion rate isn't gonna cut it in the big boy league.

Now to my assertion of Killa Cam.. Some people want to point out his win loss record. I would like to point to the stats that he is responsible for. 5th in scoring offense in the NFL and 4th in Passing Offense in the NFL.  20 passing TDs vs 16int and 14 rushing TDS. Unless youre an absolute asshole, you have to say that this guy isnt the reason they lost. Their defense and the lack of Jon Beason is the reason.


Oh calm down Mal, we know you have a man-crush on Cam.   ;D  no question the defense lost most of the games for the Panthers and he had a great rookie season.

All of that doesn't take away from the fact the Tebow took a 1-4 team with the exact same players, except his #1 WR,  and went on a tear to the point of now playing for a spot in the playoffs.  NOBODY predicted it before the year, but my biggest problem with all of it is that Tebow played well down the stretch last year and should have been the starter from the get-go.  Instead Horse-Teeth and Re-run Fox decide they don't like him because of the McDaniels fiasco and relegate him to 3rd string behind Quinn....c'mon, total horseshit.  And now the reason I think highly of Tebow.  He didn't say a word, never complained and when given the chance he made the absolute most of it.  If he is cut, benched, etc... I also suspect he will take it like a man and move on.  He is a different breed than the majority of prima-donna dipshits getting their vehicles robbed of 4 firearms... cause "they street...."    ::)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on December 29, 2011, 10:27:04 AM
Oh calm down Mal, we know you have a man-crush on Cam.   ;D  no question the defense lost most of the games for the Panthers and he had a great rookie season.

All of that doesn't take away from the fact the Tebow took a 1-4 team with the exact same players, except his #1 WR,  and went on a tear to the point of now playing for a spot in the playoffs.  NOBODY predicted it before the year, but my biggest problem with all of it is that Tebow played well down the stretch last year and should have been the starter from the get-go.  Instead Horse-Teeth and Re-run Fox decide they don't like him because of the McDaniels fiasco and relegate him to 3rd string behind Quinn....c'mon, total horseshit.  And now the reason I think highly of Tebow.  He didn't say a word, never complained and when given the chance he made the absolute most of it.  If he is cut, benched, etc... I also suspect he will take it like a man and move on.  He is a different breed than the majority of prima-donna dipshits getting their vehicles robbed of 4 firearms... cause "they street...."    ::)

youre 100% correct about everything but 1 issue

i have a Cam-Crush.. get it right









no homo


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 29, 2011, 02:42:40 PM
The argument should be about Eli and Tebow because Stafford should have gotten the 3rd NFC spot.

Correct.  Pretty silly to compare Tebow with Stafford when they play in different conferences. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2011, 03:59:05 PM
Cam will get hurt within the next two seasons if he keeps up the way he is playing he will go the way of Vick


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 29, 2011, 06:19:36 PM
Correct.  Pretty silly to compare Tebow with Stafford when they play in different conferences. 

No it's not... Especially when there are better QBs in the AFC even... You might actually be the least knowledgable person when it comes to football on the boards.

Schaub, Matt Moore, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, and Joe Flacco all have better numbers than Tebow.

Any of those guys would be a more realistic alternate.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 29, 2011, 07:33:33 PM
No it's not... Especially when there are better QBs in the AFC even... You might actually be the least knowledgable person when it comes to football on the boards.

Schaub, Matt Moore, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, and Joe Flacco all have better numbers than Tebow.

Any of those guys would be a more realistic alternate.

Oh that's really funny.  A player from the AFC cannot make the NFC team, so comparing players from different conferences is ridiculous.  That's football 101.  lol 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2011, 07:35:27 PM
No it's not... Especially when there are better QBs in the AFC even... You might actually be the least knowledgable person when it comes to football on the boards.

Schaub, Matt Moore, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, and Joe Flacco all have better numbers than Tebow.

Any of those guys would be a more realistic alternate.
again you cant just go off of stats, everyone of those teams has a better offense hands down than the broncos.

Tebow has done more with less than anyone in the league this season.

maghee is the only other person on that offense worth a shit and that pretty fucking sad man that alone should give you an idea of the caliber of players he is dealing with.

each one of those teams has a steller rb if not two and a star wide receiver if not 2 or 3...


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 29, 2011, 07:42:12 PM
Oh that's really funny.  A player from the AFC cannot make the NFC team, so comparing players from different conferences is ridiculous.  That's football 101.  lol 

Puhlease.. it's not about AFC v. NFC... it's simply about how the picks are done as a whole... Pro Bowl picks are made based on a lot of shit that has nothing to do with how people played the previous year.

Look at the players who got in based on prior years.

You can't even deny that every single QB I mentioned is better than Tebow... You are clueless Mark.
again you cant just go off of stats, everyone of those teams has a better offense hands down than the broncos.

Tebow has done more with less than anyone in the league this season.

maghee is the only other person on that offense worth a shit and that pretty fucking sad man that alone should give you an idea of the caliber of players he is dealing with.

each one of those teams has a steller rb if not two and a star wide receiver if not 2 or 3...



Cincinatti has a "stellar" team? Or how about KC? Fucking Rivers made the 3rd spot in the Pro Bowl and the team sucks... His spot was SPECIFICALLY based on HIS stats and not having very many INTs.

So tell me where the stats aren't what it's about?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2011, 07:51:48 PM
Cincinatti has a "stellar" team? Or how about KC? Fucking Rivers made the 3rd spot in the Pro Bowl and the team sucks... His spot was SPECIFICALLY based on HIS stats and not having very many INTs.

So tell me where the stats aren't what it's about?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
LOL lets see, cincy...benson, aj green, jermaine grisham, donald lee, andre smith

denver...maghee aka old ass man......who else?

never said they were steller only that they have alot more talent on offense

LOL dude rivers has 19 int with 24 td's and thats only b/c he has come alive over the last 3 weeks...and again with a ton more talent around him than tebow.

vicent jackson, antonio gates, malcom floyd, mcmichael, crayton, matthews, tolbert...

bro, its not even close...


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 29, 2011, 07:57:54 PM
LOL lets see, cincy...benson, aj green, jermaine grisham, donald lee, andre smith

denver...maghee aka old ass man......who else?

never said they were steller only that they have alot more talent on offense

LOL dude rivers has 19 int with 24 td's and thats only b/c he has come alive over the last 3 weeks...and again with a ton more talent around him than tebow.

vicent jackson, antonio gates, malcom floyd, mcmichael, crayton, matthews, tolbert...

bro, its not even close...


If SD had all of these great players this year, they would be in a much better position than they are... but they are not... and yet Rivers is STILL the number 3 guy... Based upon his SOLO play.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
If SD had all of these great players this year, they would be in a much better position than they are... but they are not... and yet Rivers is STILL the number 3 guy... Based upon his SOLO play.
yup b/c all it takes to be a good team is to have a lot of talent ::)

thats why the texans have been so awesome these past years...pro bowl rb, wr, te, lb, de and qb...OH WAIT THEY HAVENT BEEN!!!

the Texans on paper have been one of the most talented teams in the NFL over the last 3 years, it takes more than talent to make a succesful team

you dont watch alot of the fooseball do you holmes?


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 29, 2011, 08:30:07 PM
yup b/c all it takes to be a good team is to have a lot of talent ::)

thats why the texans have been so awesome these past years...pro bowl rb, wr, te, lb, de and qb...OH WAIT THEY HAVENT BEEN!!!

it takes more than talent to make a succesful team

you dont watch alot of the fooseball do you holmes?

Hahaha!!!

Tony, you need to stop down this train of nonsense... I watch almost EVERY game every week... I even pay for the NFL sunday ticket so I can watch them... I watch more football in a week then 4 average americans... because I love the game.

My love for the game is why I have no bias when it comes to who is good and who is bad and which team is good and which is bad and why the lose or not.

I do not have some "fanship" I have to follow or get behind... I tell it like it is.

Sorry if you can't see the forest for the trees on this one.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on December 29, 2011, 08:32:14 PM
Hahaha!!!

Tony, you need to stop down this train of nonsense... I watch almost EVERY game every week... I even pay for the NFL sunday ticket so I can watch them... I watch more football in a week then 4 average americans... because I love the game.

My love for the game is why I have no bias when it comes to who is good and who is bad and which team is good and which is bad and why the lose or not.

I do not have some "fanship" I have to follow or get behind... I tell it like it is.

Sorry if you can't see the forest for the trees on this one.

well you obviously dont really get it then if you think that the chargers arent stacked with talent....

i bet you think philly has a horribly talent squad as well seeing as their record sucks and the patriots must have all the talent in the world seeing as they got the number 1 spot in the afc right?

::)

LMFAO goodness gracious....


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 29, 2011, 08:34:41 PM
Puhlease.. it's not about AFC v. NFC... it's simply about how the picks are done as a whole... Pro Bowl picks are made based on a lot of shit that has nothing to do with how people played the previous year.

Look at the players who got in based on prior years.

You can't even deny that every single QB I mentioned is better than Tebow... You are clueless Mark.

Cincinatti has a "stellar" team? Or how about KC? Fucking Rivers made the 3rd spot in the Pro Bowl and the team sucks... His spot was SPECIFICALLY based on HIS stats and not having very many INTs.

So tell me where the stats aren't what it's about?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Ok.  You have convinced me that you're really just not very bright.  You complained about Tebow being named a Pro Bowl alternate over Stafford.  Stafford couldn't have been named to the Pro Bowl, as alternate or otherwise over Tebow, because they play in difference conferences.  If you want to cry about Stafford getting snubbed, you have to look at players from the NFC who made the roster.  


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 29, 2011, 08:36:39 PM
Ok.  You have convinced me that you're really just not very bright.  You complained about Tebow being named a Pro Bowl alternate over Stafford.  Stafford couldn't have been named to the Pro Bowl, as alternate or otherwise over Tebow, because they play in difference conferences.  If you want to cry about Stafford getting snubbed, you have to look at players from the NFC who made the roster. 

I did that already fool!!! I bitched about how he got snubbed over Eli... keep up!

I also listed 4 AFC QBs who should have gotten it over Tebow.

Pay attention Mark!


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on December 29, 2011, 08:55:24 PM
I did that already fool!!! I bitched about how he got snubbed over Eli... keep up!

I also listed 4 AFC QBs who should have gotten it over Tebow.

Pay attention Mark!

My goodness.  Are you really that dumb or just pretending?  Here is what you said:

Quote
Who gives a shit?

Matt Stafford who led the lions to their 1st playoff appearance in over 10 years and had 3 times the stats of Tebow and a much better team record didn't get a pro bowl pick?

Shows how stupid these fools are.



What the heck difference does it make if Stafford had "3 times the stats of Tebow" if they play in difference conferences?  LOL!  That's a rhetorical question.  lol . . . .


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on December 29, 2011, 09:23:39 PM
My goodness.  Are you really that dumb or just pretending?  Here is what you said:


What the heck difference does it make if Stafford had "3 times the stats of Tebow" if they play in difference conferences?  LOL!  That's a rhetorical question.  lol . . . .

You are a buffoon. My initial point was about the picks for the pro bowl in general. I have already made specific statements about the conferences.

Its sad that I talk so far above you that you have to pick 2 out of the 20 posts I've made about the subject to make you feel better.

You are an idiot and everyone can see that.

Go back to doing what you do best... Which is nut hug.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 30, 2011, 10:37:18 AM
youre 100% correct about everything but 1 issue

i have a Cam-Crush.. get it right









no homo

I'm going to copyright the word "Caminal."   ;D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 01, 2012, 04:12:10 PM
Tim Tebow played his most stellar game of his entire career today.  ;D  :o

Tim Tebow  6/22   60Yds   2.7Avg   0 TD   1 Int

Denver still gets in playoffs.  :o :o


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 01, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
yea, that sucked.  But I'm still happy as hell with this year.  It was far more than I expected after McDipshit dismantled and destroyed what little our team did have going for it.  I got a few exciting games and more wins from the Broncos this year than I guessed. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2012, 10:28:48 PM
Didn't see the game but sure looks pretty horrendous statistically.  He better get his act together for the Steelers.

Regardless, still an outstanding run by the kid.  They're in the playoffs after a 1-4 start.  He's a great story.  


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 02, 2012, 10:25:08 AM
Playoff bound !!!!! Tebow time !!!!!  8)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 02, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
Playoff bound !!!!! Tebow time !!!!!  8)

Will three points be enough to beat Pittsburgh?

It does not eve matter because it will be TEBOW TIME.  :o :o


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 02, 2012, 02:58:37 PM
yea, that sucked.  But I'm still happy as hell with this year.  It was far more than I expected after McDipshit dismantled and destroyed what little our team did have going for it.  I got a few exciting games and more wins from the Broncos this year than I guessed.  

If Elway makes a run at Green Bay's Matt Flynn and talks Tebow into becoming a tight end, you may have a lot to get excited about. Flynn looks like he is the real deal.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 02, 2012, 05:11:01 PM
Will three points be enough to beat Pittsburgh?

It does not eve matter because it will be TEBOW TIME.  :o :o

It wasn't even enough to beat Kansas City.   :-\

I don't think Denver will beat the Steelers, but I think they'll put on a decent show.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 02, 2012, 06:47:36 PM
I don't think we have a chance in hell to beat the steelers but it sure would be nice so I'll pray for a fucking miracle anyway.  Some payback for the game they had handed to them by the refs in the playoffs with the broncos would be sweet.  not happening I know...


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: MCWAY on January 02, 2012, 08:57:12 PM
I don't think we have a chance in hell to beat the steelers but it sure would be nice so I'll pray for a fucking miracle anyway.  Some payback for the game they had handed to them by the refs in the playoffs with the broncos would be sweet.  not happening I know...

Never say never in the NFL. Just look at last year's Wildcard game, between the Seahawks and the Saints. Everyone thought the Saints were going to destroy the 'Hawks. But, in the end....BEAST MODE was born.

Everyone is 0-0 now. The Broncos won 6 in a row. If they can win 4 in a row, they're World Champions again. Pittsburgh is the heavy favorite. But, given how they played against Cleveland, this may not be the beatdown that many expect.

With that said, Denver's defense is going to need at least two turnovers (with 10 points off such) to have any chance of beating Pittsburgh.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 02, 2012, 10:27:00 PM
and tebow is actually going to have to throw the damn ball to decker when he's wide open.  How he missed that twice is pretty bad.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 03, 2012, 04:45:30 AM
Will three points be enough to beat Pittsburgh?

It does not eve matter because it will be TEBOW TIME.  :o :o

I don't think they will beat Pitts, but how many of you thought he would go 7-4 as a starter and take the Broncos to the playoffs?  Already been a successful season.  8)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on January 03, 2012, 07:55:13 AM
now.. who is gonna blame the defense for this loss.. they gave up 7 points...

like i said.. keep 8 in the box on this dude... game over...



Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 03, 2012, 01:06:40 PM
now.. who is gonna blame the defense for this loss.. they gave up 7 points...

like i said.. keep 8 in the box on this dude... game over...



Perhaps if the defense would have had a couple of pick-six's then.......   ;D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on January 03, 2012, 01:19:40 PM
Perhaps if the defense would have had a couple of pick-six's then.......   ;D

LMAO!!!!!!

Did you see the skit on SNL when jesus came in to the locker room after a tebow comeback.. it was hilarious


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 03, 2012, 01:21:12 PM
LMAO!!!!!!

Did you see the skit on SNL when jesus came in to the locker room after a tebow comeback.. it was hilarious

I read about it, but never saw it. I need to watch it on youtube, as I heard it was pretty funny.

What do you think of RG III?  I really like him and think that as smart as the guy is with a good head on his shoulders, he could be a pro-bowl caliber QB in a few yrs.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Option D on January 03, 2012, 01:25:54 PM
I read about it, but never saw it. I need to watch it on youtube, as I heard it was pretty funny.

What do you think of RG III?  I really like him and think that as smart as the guy is with a good head on his shoulders, he could be a pro-bowl caliber QB in a few yrs.

He looks good.. im not gonna lie.. but i gotta go with luck for my money.. dude looks like Aaron Rogers/Big Ben...

Personally i wouldnt get RGIII. I could be wrong but the way he plays scares the shit out of me if i were a GM... Luck looks a bit more solid


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 03, 2012, 01:32:26 PM
He looks good.. im not gonna lie.. but i gotta go with luck for my money.. dude looks like Aaron Rogers/Big Ben...

Personally i wouldnt get RGIII. I could be wrong but the way he plays scares the shit out of me if i were a GM... Luck looks a bit more solid

I think Luck is going to be a sure fire all-pro as well.  He could play in almost any system and make it work.  If the team that gets RGIII is smart enough to build the team around him, like Carolina needs to do with Newton, I think he could be very good.  He's a little small and not sure he will hold up to the pounding like i think Luck can.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on January 04, 2012, 01:46:14 PM
He should also add:  "run for your life."  Polamalu is going to be all over him. 

John Elway has advice for Tim Tebow
ESPN.com

When asked if Tebow had lost his confidence, Elway said it's "human nature," especially for a young quarterback, "to become more cautious."

Tebow, the author of a six-game winning streak and five fourth-quarter comebacks this season, has regressed over the last month. He's completed 30 of 74 passes (40.5 percent) for 439 yards and one touchdown with four interceptions, three lost fumbles and nine sacks in losses to the Patriots, Bills and Chiefs.

After the first four-turnover game of his career at Buffalo on Christmas Eve, Tebow looked timid last Sunday against Kansas City, unwilling to throw in tight spaces. Afterward, he looked shaken over his 6-for-22 passing performance that produced a season-low 60 yards in Denver's 7-3 loss.

"The key thing for (Tebow) is to go out, put everything behind him, go through his progressions and pull the trigger," Elway told the newspaper.

"When you get into these playoff situations, he's a good enough athlete, you know what, to pull the trigger. He's obviously upset with last week. He's already got an edge to him, so he's ready to go. I like seeing the edge. Oh, yeah. I actually love it. I have full confidence he'll bounce back and have a good week."

http://espn.go.com/guy


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 04, 2012, 06:15:16 PM
(https://p.twimg.com/AiW4QISCEAAE2O5.jpg)

 ;D


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on January 08, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
So far in the 1st half Tebow is in beast mode.

Making the Steelers secondary look like fools.

He looks great today.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 08, 2012, 03:38:39 PM
So far in the 1st half Tebow is in beast mode.

Making the Steelers secondary look like fools.

He looks great today.

There is a lot of time left, but if nothing else, the Broncos are not getting embarrassed.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on January 08, 2012, 04:11:38 PM
There is a lot of time left, but if nothing else, the Broncos are not getting embarrassed.

absolutely. And it's a game again. But Tebow has shown today that he deserved this playoff spot.

I stil think his release takes too long but his long shots today were precision guided missiles.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 08, 2012, 04:35:04 PM
absolutely. And it's a game again. But Tebow has shown today that he deserved this playoff spot.

I stil think his release takes too long but his long shots today were precision guided missiles.

I was halfway through posting that the Broncos are doing everything right, then McGahee fumbles.

Under review...


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 08, 2012, 04:42:25 PM
I was halfway through posting that the Broncos are doing everything right, then McGahee fumbles.

Under review...

Steelers will score and tebow will lead them to the 50 Yard line and Denver will kick the game winning FG.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 08, 2012, 04:47:08 PM
Steelers will score and tebow will lead them to the 50 Yard line and Denver will kick the game winning FG.

It could very well happen.  At least there was one competitive game this weekend.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 08, 2012, 04:50:10 PM
Don't even act like that Giants and ATL game was not close.  :D The people down here re depressed. I love it!


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 08, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
I didn't see that coming.  Wow.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 08, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
BWHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!! WOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!

eat a fat one tebow haters


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: MCWAY on January 08, 2012, 05:16:19 PM
BWHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!! WOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!

eat a fat one tebow haters

He did the one thing his critics said he couldn't do: HE BEAT THE #1 DEFENSE in the league with his arm....in the playoffs, with the game on the line.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tu_holmes on January 08, 2012, 05:18:51 PM
I'm officially a convert.

He would be my starter next year. There shouldn't be any question as to who the man is in Denver.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: MCWAY on January 08, 2012, 05:18:56 PM
And, for the 5th time in the last three seasons, a division champion beats a wildcard team with a better record (the 4th time came earlier today with the Giants, pounding the Falcons).


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on January 08, 2012, 05:29:57 PM
 :o


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 08, 2012, 05:48:39 PM
Do I really even need to say anything?  8)


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 08, 2012, 05:49:50 PM
Do I really even need to say anything?  8)

ESPN Press Conference...Rapelisburg er in a fedora.  Epic fail.   :-X


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 08, 2012, 05:51:30 PM
I'm officially a convert.

He would be my starter next year. There shouldn't be any question as to who the man is in Denver.


I agree, he actually made some pretty good throws today. Its the best he's looked all year. That game was a lot closer than it had to be. Denver should have won by 2 touchdowns. And shame on Tomlin for not trying a 67 yard field goal to win it in regulation. Announcers were talking how both kickers were hitting from 55 yards in practice and they were hitting the net which is about 15 years away from the goal post.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: tonymctones on January 08, 2012, 06:19:03 PM
Do I really even need to say anything?  8)
nope...I think the collective "ahh shit" from the tebow haters says it all.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on January 09, 2012, 12:02:16 PM
"Tebow's passer rating of 125.6 was the highest in Broncos postseason history."   :o  Also set a number of other records in the game.  What a great story. 


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
 :)

Pittsburgh's mayor 'Tebows' in defeat
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120110051931-pittsburg-mayor-tebowing-story-top.jpg)
Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl "Tebows" on Tuesday to pay off a bet with Denver's mayor over Sunday's playoff game.
January 10th, 2012

Pittsburgh's mayor knelt down in defeat on Tuesday, donning a Denver Broncos No. 15 jersey and "Tebowing" in front of the Steel City's skyline to pay off a bet he made with the mayor of Denver over the Steelers-Broncos playoff game.

Mayor Luke Ravenstahl's Steelers lost as Denver quarterback Tim Tebow (No. 15) threw an 80-yard touchdown pass on the first play of overtime for a 29-23 victory Sunday.

Tebow's gesture of kneeling in prayer after great plays has become a national phenomenon, but for Ravenstahl it wasn't a craze he wanted a part of.

"This is not something I ever thought I'd have to do, and it certainly wasn't something I was looking forward to," Ravenstahl said. "However, we're good sports here in Pittsburgh, and I want to congratulate Denver on a great win."

If Denver had lost, Mayor Michael Hancock had pledged to wear a Steelers jersey and wave a "terrible towel," SBNation Pittsburgh reported.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/10/pittsburghs-mayor-tebows-in-defeat/?hpt=hp_c2


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 10, 2012, 01:52:44 PM
:)

Pittsburgh's mayor 'Tebows' in defeat
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120110051931-pittsburg-mayor-tebowing-story-top.jpg)
Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl "Tebows" on Tuesday to pay off a bet with Denver's mayor over Sunday's playoff game.
January 10th, 2012

That's cool...  I actually like silly shit like this.

  The last playoff game Denver had with the steelers was filled with classless crap that pissed me off.  Denver radio stations were calling up Pittsburgh businesses with stupid taunting prank calls like they were juveniles and airing it and they would not stop... They just kept it up over and over day after day.  I was about to go down to the station and fucking beat the crap out of these assclowns.


Title: Re: Tebow for MVP
Post by: Dos Equis on January 11, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
That's cool...  I actually like silly shit like this.

  The last playoff game Denver had with the steelers was filled with classless crap that pissed me off.  Denver radio stations were calling up Pittsburgh businesses with stupid taunting prank calls like they were juveniles and airing it and they would not stop... They just kept it up over and over day after day.  I was about to go down to the station and fucking beat the crap out of these assclowns.

I like it too.  Nice to see a kid like this succeed.