Author Topic: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far  (Read 22504 times)

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #75 on: May 23, 2008, 05:58:06 PM »
true, he should have lost in 94 and 97..

NOT even Shawn Ray thinks he should have lost in 94  ;) and Nasser was Mr Olympia from the front lol

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #76 on: May 23, 2008, 05:58:43 PM »
that comparison of Fat Bastard and Dorian is the BEST!

hilarious!
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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #77 on: May 23, 2008, 06:00:52 PM »
a tad shorter makes it look like shit..

again its a small muscle not his best to begin with you're just looking for excuses to verify your bias.

according to the judges they said it made NO overall difference what so ever . and its true


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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #78 on: May 23, 2008, 06:00:52 PM »
NOT even Shawn Ray thinks he should have lost in 94 while under Weider contract - once this was gone his opinion changed quite dramatically)  ;) and Nasser was Mr Olympia from the front lol

fixed.
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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #79 on: May 23, 2008, 06:04:20 PM »
fixed.

Excuses , excuses. one think Ray wasn't known for was keeping his mouth shut  ;)

thanks for the more even damaging proof of how little you know about competitive bodybuilding.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #80 on: May 23, 2008, 06:16:27 PM »
See Hulkster what you don't understand is this . All rounds are physique rounds and a guy who has an advantage in ONE part of the criteria is NOT going to beat a guy who has more advantages in ALL of the criteria and what advantage did Shawn actually have anyway? aesthetics? lol seriously have you ever pondered his advantages in the criteria?

Shawn has great conditioning his density & dryness are great , to bad its a clear advantage for Dorian much harder to be 262 pounds and hard & dry than 205  ;) balance & proportion? NO this isn't a strength for Ray he has small high calves in relation to his oversized quads and not to mention his lack of width and he's only 5'7" if he's lucky , whats left? muscular bulk? please  , Shawn is a great poser and has great presentation however you must remember ALL rounds are physique rounds so his lack of balance & proportion and muscular bulk and his push in density & dryness and posing & presentation he cannot gain ANY ground on Dorian .

Dorian enjoys advantages Shawn doesn't which is exactly how and why he won.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #81 on: May 23, 2008, 06:33:30 PM »
Excuses , excuses. one think Ray wasn't known for was keeping his mouth shut  ;)

thanks for the more even damaging proof of how little you know about competitive bodybuilding.

Shawn Ray " Tonight I feel I got the place I deserve "



you know nothing about the business world, do you? :-\

here is a hint: once you get out from behind the McDonald's counter, you will find things work a lot differently than you think that they do.

Shawn had a contract to protect - when this was up, he told the world he felt he got screwed.

if you think that is an 'excuse', well, you are just plain naive and ignorant.


sorry. :-\
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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #82 on: May 23, 2008, 06:35:01 PM »
Quote
Shawn Ray " Tonight I feel I got the place I deserve *(and I am only saying this because Uncle Joe pays my salary and his name is on the contest) "

fixed for the ignorant McWorkers LOL
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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #83 on: May 23, 2008, 06:37:25 PM »
you know nothing about the business world, do you? :-\

here is a hint: once you get out from behind the McDonald's counter, you will find things work a lot differently than you think that they do.

Shawn had a contract to protect - when this was up, he told the world he felt he got screwed.

if you think that is an 'excuse', well, you are just plain naive and ignorant.


sorry. :-\

Oh jesus the business world lol Shawn was one of the most outspoken bodybuilders ever ! spare me the nonsense he was scared to comment , Shawn was happy with second place in 1994 because he was BEHIND Levrone after the pre-judging and only bested him in the posing rounds , NEITHER were close to Dorian .

and you reduce yourself with every personal attack lol and I eat that like candy  ;)

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #84 on: May 23, 2008, 06:38:42 PM »
fixed for the ignorant McWorkers LOL

Hulkster lets say I do work at McDonalds  that doesn't change the FACT I know more about competitive bodybuilding than you do by far . see above for personal attacks lol

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #85 on: May 23, 2008, 07:14:08 PM »
lmfao Bertil Fox was lucky if he was 200 pounds and Demayo was at the 1995 Mr Olympia his only Olympia appearance and where did he place again? yeah I thought so  ;)


Bertil Fox had great triceps did Bertil Fox have a better side triceps pose? you're out of your mind if you think so



Sorry, but the lightest Fox ever came in was 215 pounds and that was the 1987 Mr. Olympia and yes, he was very depleted. Judges didn't want Bertil playing the size game, so he starved himself and suffered as a result. He looked best at 230-235 pounds in competition, which is what he competed at in the early 80's. Offseason weight was 260 pounds and he sported a very impressive 22" upper arm, with probably one of the best most muscular poses of all time (circa 1982).

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #86 on: May 23, 2008, 07:19:24 PM »
Dorian was untouchable during his reign, and yes, 1997 included.

hahahaha

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #87 on: May 23, 2008, 07:23:08 PM »
I admit Dorian was better than Nasser from the back, but that hardly makes up for how much he lags in comparison in all other bodyparts.

Unless someone walks backwards most of the time it's not as important lol

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #88 on: May 23, 2008, 07:24:10 PM »
lmfao Bertil Fox was lucky if he was 200 pounds

ROFL another naive, ignorant remark that indicates a lack of knowledge. Fox was not around 200 as someone else mentioned lol. Blows Yates away on triceps size along with pretty good cuts.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #89 on: May 23, 2008, 07:32:47 PM »
yep, Dorian wins this by far;  he's a king among kings

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good video! thanks for posting it

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #90 on: May 23, 2008, 11:08:58 PM »


Not that I give damn about Dorian but Nasser said (in print) that Dorian deserved to win. This was the comp when Nasser and Shawn ray had a war of words due to a misunderstanding.

I'll see if I can find the mag and scan that page.  It was either MD or Flex.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #91 on: May 23, 2008, 11:59:01 PM »
Slight change of topic doesn't Levrone's arm look weird here?



If you look closely, he's rotating his forearm and fist forward, toward the audience, which is a big NO NO when you pose front double biceps. That only flatens out the biceps instead of fully contracting it and make it peak. Simple explanation.D  :)
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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #92 on: May 24, 2008, 12:57:30 AM »
damn shawn got owned when they said... "shawn back in line nasser get in"... but i admire shawns physique and leverones over anybodys...but dorian did own that show
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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #93 on: May 24, 2008, 03:20:31 AM »
Sorry to all the Nasser fans but, he was Owned. Pics are just pics. One guy can be holding tight where the other guy may be relaxing or hasn't tightened quite yet.  That's why video or being there is key.  Yates dominated the competition that year.  Everyone was battling for second place.  In the vid shown by the OP, you can see the extra skin on Nasser's stomach around 4:12 in the vid. Cut does not = dry.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #94 on: May 24, 2008, 07:37:52 AM »
Nasser had a set of the best abs ever in bb. he was huge and his abs were still TUNNELS and TIGHT.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #95 on: May 24, 2008, 07:41:07 AM »
Hulkster lets say I do work at McDonalds  that doesn't change the FACT I know more about competitive bodybuilding than you do by far . see above for personal attacks lol

hahahaha ND works at McDonald's (and it shows badly..)

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #96 on: May 24, 2008, 07:48:33 AM »
again its a small muscle not his best to begin with you're just looking for excuses to verify your bias.

according to the judges they said it made NO overall difference what so ever . and its true



the fact that the biceps disappear from the back makes no difference? LOL

yeah, great judging McD..

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #97 on: May 24, 2008, 09:24:25 AM »
nasser!!! King Nasser

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #98 on: May 24, 2008, 09:29:55 AM »
According to the people who were there, Nasser was better.

But from the video, look like Dorian is better.

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Re: Dorian 1995 Prejudging- No Controversy, Dorian wins by far
« Reply #99 on: May 24, 2008, 09:30:44 AM »
Sorry to all the Nasser fans but, he was Owned. Pics are just pics. One guy can be holding tight where the other guy may be relaxing or hasn't tightened quite yet.  That's why video or being there is key.  Yates dominated the competition that year.  Everyone was battling for second place.  In the vid shown by the OP, you can see the extra skin on Nasser's stomach around 4:12 in the vid. Cut does not = dry.




Don't tell team nasser that, they depend on nasser pictures to jizz on  ??? :-X :-[ :'( :P