how many sets for back?

[The Coach]

really, you hate low volume training ?

I dont know why but I tought the opposite

For bodybuilding purposes, low volume or "HIT" is useless for hypertrophy.

[The Coach]

Dorian used a **modified*** HIT system,which was 6-8 sets total. Could easily work.

If you recall Mike Mentzer's HIT was ONE SET per body part 3x a week, 30 minutes each work out. That is the stupidest shit I ever heard-but 8 sets is doable in HIT.

If I recall, both of there training methods were low reps like in the 3-6 range or less. Not condusive for bbing purposes, and before you say "well it worked for Dorian and Mentzer", take into consideration any type of training works when on gear.

[body88]

I did back tonight.... This what I did :

Wide grip chins - 5 x 10

Close grip Chins - 5 x 10

Bent over row - 5 x 10, 10, 8, 8, 6

Seated row (hammer strength machine) - 5 x 10

Good mornings - 5 x 10

Finshed up with 100 crunches - on the seated crunch machine.

[The Coach]

I did back tonight.... This what I did :

Wide grip chins - 5 x 10

Close grip Chins - 5 x 10

Bent over row - 5 x 10, 10, 8, 8, 6

Seated row (hammer strength machine) - 5 x 10

Good mornings - 5 x 10

Finshed up with 100 crunches - on the seated crunch machine.

Now thats a good routien for hypertrophy. The only thing I'd do differently is low back on a leg day.

[body88]

Now thats a good routien for hypertrophy. The only thing I'd do differently is low back on a leg day.

Thanks, how would you break up quads? Infact, could you write me a program when you get some time? I need something new.....I like to work on a 2 day on, one day off split.

[The Coach]

Here are some guidelines I have posted on numerous occations;


Power - 1-3 reps

Strength - 5-8 reps

Hypertrophy - 8-12

Anything more than 15-20 goes into muscular endurance

[The Coach]

Thanks, how would you break up quads? Infact, could you write me a program when you get some time? I need something new.....I like to work on a 2 day on, one day off split.

For bodybuilding or sport?

[chaos]

Thanks, how would you break up quads? Infact, could you write me a program when you get some time? I need something new.....I like to work on a 2 day on, one day off split.

I'm sure he will, but it's going to cost you$$$$$$$.

[body88]

For bodybuilding or sport?

Bodybuilding, but I would also like some explosion training. Can you do something that is a mix? I know your busy, so I appreciate it.

Something simple is fine.

[The Coach]

I'm sure he will, but it's going to cost you$$$$$$$.

No, only you !

[chaos]

No, only you !

[The Coach]

Bodybuilding, but I would also like some explosion training. Can you do something that is a mix? I know your busy, so I appreciate it.

Yes, I always include function in my routeins. You want lower body only right?

[The Coach]

LOL.......that's "Mr" Asshole too you

[body88]

Yes, I always include function in my routeins. You want lower body only right?

I'll take whatever you have the time to write out.... I need a new split in general..... I have been training the same way for years. I would consider myself an advanced trainer ( not by getbig standards of course).

[chaos]

I'll take whatever you have the time to write out.... I need a new split in general..... I have been training the same way for years. I would consider myself an advanced trainer ( not by getbig standards of course).

Pick up a flex mag, it will only cost you 5 bucks vs the several hundred "Joe" will try to charge you.

[body88]

Pick up a flex mag, it will only cost you 5 bucks vs the several hundred "Joe" will try to charge you.

I know what your saying, I have been training for a little over 12 years....Tried a lot of things, worked with a national level guy, when I was delusional about bb. I'm on a charity kick tonight, any new training advice would be appreciated. My workouts are stagnant, and I'm sick of reading!

[chaos]

I know what your saying, I have been training for a little over 12 years....Tried a lot of things, worked with a national level guy, when I was delusional about bb. I'm on a charity kick tonight, any new training advice would be appreciated.

Try flipping over to powerlifting for a few months. That'll shake you up.

[body88]

Try flipping over to powerlifting for a few months. That'll shake you up.

You do that type of work? I do need some thickness in my physique.

[chaos]

You do that type of work? I do need some thickness in my physique.

Sometimes, I'm starting a program Monday that Magoo sent me a link to, should be interesting.

[The Coach]

I'll take whatever you have the time to write out.... I need a new split in general..... I have been training the same way for years. I would consider myself an advanced trainer ( not by getbig standards of course).

I'll get too you sometime before Monday. If you want pm your email.

[The Coach]

Pick up a flex mag, it will only cost you 5 bucks vs the several hundred "Joe" will try to charge you.

I understand thats the research material for you guys, I prefer something a little more indepth.

[body88]

I'll get too you sometime before Monday. If you want pm your email.

Thanks Joe..

[body88]

Sometimes, I'm starting a program Monday that Magoo sent me a link to, should be interesting.

Send me that link for shits and giggles..... Thanks, bro.

[chaos]

I understand thats the research material for you guys, I prefer something a little more indepth.

Brutal trying to throw Body88 of the cheap track so he'll spend too much money with you.

body88 if you want the link Magoo sent me, shoot me a PM.

[The Coach]

Brutal trying to throw Body88 of the cheap track so he'll spend too much money with you.

body88 if you want the link Magoo sent me, shoot me a PM.

Nothing cheap, He'll get two full programs. One for bodybuilding and Phase I power/strenght protocol I designed for my athletes.