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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2008, 10:26:18 PM »
I think it is essential for preserving muscle. Your body will eat away whats not being used in the absence of carbohydrates but my carbs are still high. From examining the new pictures i just took im not burning fat as fast as id like so i might start cutting back on them a little bit. Not sure yet. going down to 2200 for about a week or so.
"if you dont use it you lose it"

you dont want to go less carbs when you get leaner dude
common mistake

you need to reduce calories from fat, or increase cardio


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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #76 on: July 09, 2008, 10:28:05 PM »
"if you dont use it you lose it"

you dont want to go less carbs when you get leaner dude
common mistake

you need to reduce calories from fat, or increase cardio


Any fat i do get is unavoidable. Cardio is a waste of energy.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #77 on: July 09, 2008, 10:30:04 PM »
Any fat i do get is unavoidable. Cardio is a waste of energy.
just walk for 45 minutes on a treadmill first thing in the morning or post workout.


thats huge




anyway, you can get less fat. you eating oatmeal? switch to black beans.  theres less fat right there. you eating beef? switch to fish. less fat.

maybe consider ADDING some fat too, if your not taking any fish oil or omega-3's... those would help tremendously as well.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2008, 10:41:09 PM »
just walk for 45 minutes on a treadmill first thing in the morning or post workout.


thats huge




anyway, you can get less fat. you eating oatmeal? switch to black beans.  theres less fat right there. you eating beef? switch to fish. less fat.

maybe consider ADDING some fat too, if your not taking any fish oil or omega-3's... those would help tremendously as well.
Your telling me though stuff i already know. I have done walking cardio and hit cardio and hit cardio blows walking out of the water. I'd rather do 15 mins with 3 min intervals as hard as i can then walking for 45 mins.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2008, 10:43:26 PM »
Your telling me though stuff i already know. I have done walking cardio and hit cardio and hit cardio blows walking out of the water. I'd rather do 15 mins with 3 min intervals as hard as i can then walking for 45 mins.
sprinting is for sprinters  :P

if you already know about omega-3 and you already know what im telling you how come you said you were gonna lower carbs ?

doing that, esp if your natty, and esp as lean as you are,  is an expressway to cortisol + muscle loss + t3 suppression

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2008, 10:45:17 PM »
sprinting is for sprinters  :P

if you already know about omega-3 and you already know what im telling you how come you said you were gonna lower carbs ?

doing that, esp if your natty, and esp as lean as you are,  is an expressway to cortisol + muscle loss + t3 suppression
I will only do it as an extreme. More then likely im just going to drop my cals to 2200 for another week and watch what happens. I'll start freaking out at about 4.5 weeks out if nothing happens.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #81 on: July 09, 2008, 10:46:46 PM »
solid bro,
i was scared you might be doing the "adonis principles"
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i didnt want you fucking up all that hard work its evident youve done

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2008, 11:51:20 PM »
i thought you were right into the HIIT training dizzle? its what i do atm and its working. lol.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #83 on: July 10, 2008, 04:43:13 AM »
actually it is fairly hard for me to gain size.

I figured as much, which is why that comment Ripitupbaby made was laughable.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #84 on: July 10, 2008, 05:13:03 AM »
I figured as much, which is why that comment Ripitupbaby made was laughable.


It's hard for him to gain size, and he did, so good for him!! 


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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #85 on: July 10, 2008, 08:35:33 AM »
When Zane was near a contest and he felt he still needed to drop more bodyfat he simply went a few days on zero carbs and zero fats, just a thought.

I don't think i could do it, but you never know. Personally i think you look fine just now and if you drop calories any lower i think you will be at great risk of losing muscle.
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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #86 on: July 10, 2008, 08:41:46 AM »
When Zane was near a contest and he felt he still needed to drop more bodyfat he simply went a few days on zero carbs and zero fats, just a thought.

I don't think i could do it, but you never know. Personally i think you look fine just now and if you drop calories any lower i think you will be at great risk of losing muscle.
maybe that is why zane competed with 17 inch arms ?  :P     ;D

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #87 on: July 10, 2008, 08:46:08 AM »
i thought you were right into the HIIT training dizzle? its what i do atm and its working. lol.
hit training is good for some people


...and also, are you natural bodyuilding? natural bodybuilders need to find a good balance of growth stimulation and hormonal stimulation in order to realize that growth. too much sets= adverse effects on hormones. too few sets= no growth stimulation.  BALANCE................. ........................ ...................


like naturals.



but hit cardio? no fuckin way. bodybuilding, NOT track and field.
i personally dont see how you could even do sprints while still fully exhausting your legs with weight training.
to me thats looking at overtraining 4sho

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #88 on: July 10, 2008, 08:49:04 AM »
maybe that is why zane competed with 17 inch arms ?  :P     ;D

but thats 4" bigger than leafy's  ;D

sorry leafy. ;)
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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #89 on: July 10, 2008, 08:51:17 AM »
but thats 4" bigger than leafy's  ;D

sorry leafy. ;)
i feel like waddy/falcon with how much i change my views on nutrition, but now honestly i am a believer that the high protein/high carb/low fat diet (with supplemental omega-3's of course) is truly the best diet for a hard training bodybuilder, regardless of shredding or gaining.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #90 on: July 10, 2008, 08:55:03 AM »
i feel like waddy/falcon with how much i change my views on nutrition, but now honestly i am a believer that the high protein/high carb/low fat diet (with supplemental omega-3's of course) is truly the best diet for a hard training bodybuilder, regardless of shredding or gaining.

don't let the dark side sway you young skywalker. ;)
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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #91 on: July 10, 2008, 09:02:32 PM »
hit training is good for some people

like naturals.



but hit cardio? no fuckin way. bodybuilding, NOT track and field.
i personally dont see how you could even do sprints while still fully exhausting your legs with weight training.
to me thats looking at overtraining 4sho

eh i suppose, it is using the same energy system and muscles but you do walk on your legs alot so they are pretty used to enduring long exercise, i do it straight after my leg workout anyway, and its only for 25-30 minutes, followed by a couple of laps of the park, at this stage id rather get lean and sacrifice potential 'small gains' in my legs.

HIIT cardio is good for me cos i get shin splints from prolonged impact cardio, and im not built for endurance myself.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #92 on: July 11, 2008, 05:10:17 AM »
Speaking of "Zane impressions"...Here's The King doing his.  :D


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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #93 on: July 11, 2008, 08:09:34 AM »



gayer than a malnourished bodybuilder in bell bottoms being Mr O  ::)
just not good enough

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #94 on: July 12, 2008, 06:50:42 AM »
Speaking of "Zane impressions"...Here's The King doing his.  :D



pollux, where did you find those? and more importantly, when are you posting ronnies cycle?  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #95 on: July 12, 2008, 07:24:36 AM »
cumdrizzle has some nerves trying to give advices to leafybug who is  ten times  looking better and more knowledgeable than him.

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #96 on: July 12, 2008, 07:27:28 AM »
pollux, where did you find those?

"I have detailed files."  :D

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« Reply #97 on: July 12, 2008, 08:57:10 AM »
"I have detailed files."  :D

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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #98 on: July 12, 2008, 08:58:13 AM »
"I have detailed files."  :D
whats up with an arnold board ???
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Re: Zane impressions
« Reply #99 on: July 12, 2008, 09:34:54 AM »
whats up with an arnold board ???

To be honest, I don't think Ron is even gonna give it a chance. We've pleaded with him; we've reasoned with him. Nothing. And this had been going for a while now.

I'll be surprised, as well as pleased, if Ron creates it. I just don't see it happening.  :(