Not sure the Actual point your trying to make posting all those shots of Dorians torn bicep..yes his arms in quiet a few shots were a weakness, but the judges seemed to be taking into account his overall package which from 1992-1997 they deemed to be the best in the world at that time (the total package that is) which would stand to reason why Dorian was MR OLYMPIA and not Shawn, Paul, Kevin, Nasser...i don,t think theres any qestion Ronnie and Dozens of others had "better" arms than Dorian, however dueing his time as MR OLYMPIA Dorian was like it or not far and away the most complete, Domminent package over the likes of Ronnie, Kevin, Paul, Nasser, Flex, Shawn etc...i have dozens of bad Ronnie pics of his gut distended, calves looking bad etc...but id rather just see the great ones posted of a 8 time Champion than try to belittle him with bad pics..same thing with Dorian 6 time MR OLYMPIA champion the 2 of them in my book were Increadible!