Author Topic: I'd like to say sorry to getbig (Read 36954 times)

lovemonkey · « **Reply #250 on:** April 01, 2009, 07:28:52 AM »

Quote from: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 07:26:17 AM

The Four Noble truths are nice but in practice virtually impossible to live by. Anyone living a normal life does NOT.

That's kinda what I was getting at before... that it seems like these philosophies try to take away every thing human from humans if you follow them strictly.

Deicide · « **Reply #251 on:** April 01, 2009, 07:31:31 AM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on April 01, 2009, 07:28:52 AM

That's kinda what I was getting at before... that it seems like these philosophies try to take away every thing human from humans if you follow them strictly.

You can do it in bits and pieces but the Four Noble Truths don't allow you participate in society properly.

kyomu · « **Reply #252 on:** April 01, 2009, 07:48:14 AM »

We dont have to be human. We dont have to progress. We dont have to live. We dont have to die. We dont have to do anything..
Since we are free from the beginning, why we have to?

lovemonkey · « **Reply #253 on:** April 01, 2009, 07:57:00 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on April 01, 2009, 07:48:14 AM

We dont have to be human. We dont have to progress. We dont have to live. We dont have to die. We dont have to do anything..
Since we are free from the beginning, why we have to?

If you wanna go mentally ill about philosophy then that is true yes.

But I'm glad that I do not share this view with you, what a way to diminish your own life's worth.

kyomu · « **Reply #254 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:04:21 AM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on April 01, 2009, 07:57:00 AM

If you wanna go mentally ill about philosophy then that is true yes.

But I'm glad that I do not share this view with you, what a way to diminish your own life's worth.

Hahahaha. In reallity, you are in that limited cage called human,live...etc while i am so unlimited and vastly free due to not deciding who i am.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #255 on:** April 01, 2009, 10:06:55 AM »

Quote from: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 07:02:45 AM

Does it bother you that there was likely no historical Buddha?

no because there were many buddha's actually, but if you mean Siddhārtha Gautama - there is plenty of proof he existed, if you actually look.

Quote from: lovemonkey on April 01, 2009, 07:13:19 AM

Well no, I've thought of karma as a metaphor for "justice" if you will(non-existent force), but I got a bit confused when I discussed it with Fatpanda when he said he believed all things mentioned above(which require supernatural intervention). I was just curios if you did as well.

please explain what you think i said about supernatural intervention ? and i will clarify.

Quote from: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 07:26:17 AM

The Four Noble truths are nice but in practice virtually impossible to live by. Anyone living a normal life does NOT.

the four noble truths are not a guide to live by, but simply an explaination as to how the world works, or should i say why it doesn't work.

the noble eightfold path is the guide to end suffering that the 4 noble truths describe, however you you would probably find them impossible to live by as you do not meditate - meditation is needed to purify and focus the mind, which helps with things like right mindfullness, right thought, right understanding, etc.

meditation is key.

aren't you a jew ? jews used to realise the benefits of meditation and chanting, the kabbala etc

do you or have you ever practiced this ?

jesus, mohammed, moses all meditated

chaos · « **Reply #256 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:14:23 PM »

How'd this end up on The Positive Board?

I just read the last few posts and it seems like it might be a better fit on the religion board, anyone want to disagree or clarify what the subject is about?

bodybuilder1234 · « **Reply #257 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:37:49 PM »

Fatpanda is a nice guy but slightly misled.

webcake · « **Reply #258 on:** April 01, 2009, 04:03:23 PM »

Quote from: chaos on April 01, 2009, 03:14:23 PM

How'd this end up on The Positive Board?

I just read the last few posts and it seems like it might be a better fit on the religion board, anyone want to disagree or clarify what the subject is about?

I agree, Chaos.

If i were a mod i would try and move it...........but i'm still not a mod.

chaos · « **Reply #259 on:** April 01, 2009, 04:05:20 PM »

Quote from: webcke on April 01, 2009, 04:03:23 PM

I agree, Chaos.

If i were a mod i would try and move it...........but i'm still not a mod.

I'm not reading the first 10 pages, I just want to know if I should leave it here, move it, or delete the whole thread. $:-\$

webcake · « **Reply #260 on:** April 01, 2009, 04:10:44 PM »

Quote from: chaos on April 01, 2009, 04:05:20 PM

I'm not reading the first 10 pages, I just want to know if I should leave it here, move it, or delete the whole thread. $:-\$

I would move it to the religion board and let them deal with it.

Or just delete it all.....

lovemonkey · « **Reply #261 on:** April 01, 2009, 06:32:30 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on April 01, 2009, 09:04:21 AM

Hahahaha. In reallity, you are in that limited cage called human,live...etc while i am so unlimited and vastly free due to not deciding who i am.

Don't kid yourself, you're in that cage as well.

DK II · « **Reply #262 on:** April 02, 2009, 01:33:26 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on April 01, 2009, 10:06:55 AM

no because there were many buddha's actually, but if you mean Siddhārtha Gautama - there is plenty of proof he existed, if you actually look.

please explain what you think i said about supernatural intervention ? and i will clarify.

the four noble truths are not a guide to live by, but simply an explaination as to how the world works, or should i say why it doesn't work.

the noble eightfold path is the guide to end suffering that the 4 noble truths describe, however you you would probably find them impossible to live by as you do not meditate - meditation is needed to purify and focus the mind, which helps with things like right mindfullness, right thought, right understanding, etc.

meditation is key.

aren't you a jew ? jews used to realise the benefits of meditation and chanting, the kabbala etc

do you or have you ever practiced this ?

jesus, mohammed, moses all meditated

good post!

Also, in buddhism, there aren't strict rules as in christianity. "Thou shalt not lie" means "thou shalt not lie", no matter what.

"Right speech" in buddhism says you shouldn't lie as well, but in a certain situation "right speech" might mean that it is better to lie to someone.

This is much closer to humans than christianity.

bodybuilder1234 · « **Reply #263 on:** April 02, 2009, 03:09:53 AM »

Quote from: bodybuilder1234 on April 01, 2009, 03:37:49 PM

Fatpanda is a nice guy but slightly misled.

bahahaaa i didnt write that
Nice job editing on what i really wrote

Fatpanda · « **Reply #264 on:** April 02, 2009, 03:49:38 AM »

Quote from: webcke on April 01, 2009, 04:03:23 PM

I agree, Chaos.

If i were a mod i would try and move it...........but i'm still not a mod.

chaos i feel this is a positive thread, a very positive thread. Both donkeykong and myself have said sorry to our fellow getbiggers for previous wrong doings, and want to start a more positive way of posting and debating out fellow man/woman in getbig about bodybuilding, or anything - it is my belief in karma and doing good that led me and probably dk to post our apologies. We also believe in Buddhism, hence the topic of Buddhism coming up as many fellow getbiggers like love monkey see it as a very positive thing.

Quote from: DonkeyKong on April 02, 2009, 01:33:26 AM

good post!

Also, in Buddhism, there aren't strict rules as in christianity. "Thou shalt not lie" means "thou shalt not lie", no matter what.

"Right speech" in Buddhism says you shouldn't lie as well, but in a certain situation "right speech" might mean that it is better to lie to someone.

This is much closer to humans than christianity.

i agree, i can't believe we have went so long no having these wonderful discussions dk, and everyone else that has participated on this glorious thread.

Quote from: bodybuilder1234 on April 02, 2009, 03:09:53 AM

bahahaaa i didnt write that
Nice job editing on what i really wrote

did it originally say 'great guy'

webcake · « **Reply #265 on:** April 02, 2009, 03:57:59 AM »

Yep, if i were a mod i would delete this shit.......no doubt about it.

j/k

DK II · « **Reply #266 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:15:38 AM »

Quote from: webcke on April 02, 2009, 03:57:59 AM

Yep, if i were a mod i would delete this shit.......no doubt about it.

j/k

Then Karma would bite your ass and in your next life, you would become a thread moved to the alphabet boards!!

webcake · « **Reply #267 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:18:34 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on April 02, 2009, 04:15:38 AM

Then Karma would bite your ass and in your next life, you would become a thread moved to the alphabet boards!!

Gayer than karma.......

DK II · « **Reply #268 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:23:35 AM »

Quote from: webcke on April 02, 2009, 04:18:34 AM

Gayer than karma.......

webcake · « **Reply #269 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:27:25 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on April 02, 2009, 04:23:35 AM

Gayer than.........well no, Boy George is about the epitome of gayness.

DK II · « **Reply #270 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:28:16 AM »

Quote from: webcke on April 02, 2009, 04:27:25 AM

Gayer than.........well no, Boy George is about the epitome of gayness.

You see, we can go back to buddhism now.

webcake · « **Reply #271 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:30:34 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on April 02, 2009, 04:28:16 AM

You see, we can go back to buddhism now.

No, DK, we can't.......

wavelength · « **Reply #272 on:** April 02, 2009, 06:35:45 AM »

It's all irrelevant drivel anyway as long as only egos are talking, which is the case in this thread of course.
Anyone who thinks he has 'got' it, is in fact an ego who has turned 'it' into an ideology to build himself up.

DK II · « **Reply #273 on:** April 02, 2009, 06:39:12 AM »

Quote from: wavelength on April 02, 2009, 06:35:45 AM

It's all irrelevant drivel anyway as long as only egos are talking, which is the case in this thread of course.
Anyone who thinks he has 'got' it, is in fact an ego who has turned 'it' into an ideology to build himself up.

yes, it's difficult if you try to teach or speak about it, because this way you have to limit yourself to the illusion you live in.

You can only find out for yourself.

wavelength · « **Reply #274 on:** April 02, 2009, 06:54:53 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on April 02, 2009, 06:39:12 AM

yes, it's difficult if you try to teach or speak about it, because this way you have to limit yourself to the illusion you live in.

You can only find out for yourself.

Let's be honest, it's impossible to teach it if you haven't realized enlightenment. I don't think anyone in this thread has. We have our glimpses maybe, but as soon as words leave our mouth, it's all tainted by the ego again.