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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2010, 10:12:00 AM » |
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I didn’t want to merge your thread that you just started this morning, but I wanted to post the Rumble results in the sticky. It was faster & easier for me to just copy and paste your post. Plagiarism – college's greatest lesson!  No worries....all good. Sometimes i'll post something big like that in its own thread so everyone can see it without having to look for it in the News & Notes. Very interesting rumble though. They have many different angles / storylines they can do for Mania. |
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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2010, 10:14:06 AM » |
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Do you think Vince is turning things up because of the upcoming pressure from TNA?
I’m not implying that he would intentionally do poorly – or even go on “auto pilot.”
I’m just curious if he’s maybe trying a little harder now.
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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2010, 10:18:42 AM » |
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Do you think Vince is turning things up because of the upcoming pressure from TNA?
I’m not implying that he would intentionally do poorly – or even go on “auto pilot.”
I’m just curious if he’s maybe trying a little harder now.
Could be, mind you the ball is in Vince's court. Tna will still need a couple of good years before really giving Vince a good run for his money. One thing I did notice is that WWE has been changing storylines at the last minute do to storylines leaking out to the net. Now keep in mind that there is still one PPV left before heading into WM. So alot can happen. |
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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2010, 07:58:29 PM » |
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The Edge/Jericho match could still happen if Jericho wins one of the titles before WM.
I'm watching Raw now, and I'm getting tired of Sheamus already. The guys got no charisma, and the glare from his skin is giving me a headache.
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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2010, 11:06:38 PM » |
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The Edge/Jericho match could still happen if Jericho wins one of the titles before WM.
I'm watching Raw now, and I'm getting tired of Sheamus already. The guys got no charisma, and the glare from his skin is giving me a headache.
I really enjoyed tonights Raw. Bret looked 100 times better then the last time he was on. Maybe he dyed his hair or something? Shatner was funny. One of the best parts for me was the Cena/Rhodes match. Cody Rhodes has gotten so good. He did a picture perfect moon assault on Cena. The guy has really come a long way. I'm thinking after the addition of Festus, that bald chick, and last nights Rumble. I'm gonna have to say CM Punk is definitely moving up on my favorites list. |
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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2010, 05:41:26 AM » |
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With the results of the rumble and the elimination ppv coming up in a few weeks plus the Bret / Vince storyline, there are so many things they can do at WM.
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2010, 09:43:13 AM » |
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With the results of the rumble and the elimination ppv coming up in a few weeks plus the Bret / Vince storyline, there are so many things they can do at WM.
Michaels is gonna put his career on the line to face the Undertaker. He's gonna say either he wins or he's gone. Love HBK but he is looking so bad. His eyes, hair, and he walks like he has something jammed up his behind. He really needs to hang it up.   |
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2010, 11:31:56 AM » |
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Michaels is gonna put his career on the line to face the Undertaker. He's gonna say either he wins or he's gone. Love HBK but he is looking so bad. His eyes, hair, and he walks like he has something jammed up his behind. He really needs to hang it up. WWE will not make Michaels fight the Undertaker at WM. Aside from the fact that we just witnessed an epic battle between the two on the biggest stage of them all would cheapen their performance last year. They would never be able to one-up that match. Both are far to injured. From what it looks like, HHH will face Michaels but Michaels will be the one who has the heel turn this time. It has been building up slowly and something will go down at the Elimination chamber PPV in a couple of weeks. Should be pretty interesting. Also, note that there will be a Cutting Edge segment on Smackdown this week were the guest will be the Undertaker. Edge will face whichever champ he chooses at WM. |
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« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2010, 01:54:14 PM » |
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What do you think the card is gonna be then this year Playboy? How's DX is gonna loose the tag belts? And what do you think is gonna happen with Batista? Is Bret gonna push the Hart Dynasty at all?
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« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2010, 02:25:01 PM » |
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Is Bret gonna push the Hart Dynasty at all?
I suspect that is a major reason he returned. |
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« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2010, 06:40:22 AM » |
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What do you think the card is gonna be then this year Playboy? How's DX is gonna loose the tag belts? And what do you think is gonna happen with Batista? Is Bret gonna push the Hart Dynasty at all?
Its really tough to call. They have so many angles they can do now which is great and not as typical WWE predictable. With Edge back, winning the rumble, hart and McMahon, Michaels slowly turning heel, DX, the tag belts, etc.....so much can happen. I'm really excited. I believe the upcoming Elimination Chamber PPV will determine everything that will take place at this years WM. Personally, I would love to see Michaels vs HHH on the big stage. I have a funny feeling that DX will lose the titles in the very near future causing them to split up and fued. I also think that whomever Edge challenges, Batista will be filtered in and it will be a triple threat match. Very hard to call though. WWE is doing great at changing the storylines. Will see what happens. |
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« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2010, 11:50:11 AM » |
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Is Bret gonna push the Hart Dynasty at all?
With Batista backing McMahon on Raw you might see a Batista/Hart Dynasty feud in the future. |
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« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2010, 01:00:42 PM » |
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Batista deserves the beat down for sure after messing with Bret. I hope Hitman puts the Animal in the Sharpshooter so bad! Hey these guys might be todays superstars but in no way are they in Brets league. Cena can shut his mouth. This is a much much larger World then the whigger chain gang and that stupid a$$ knuckle shuffle!
As for the chamber match this weekend? Hows this Cena/Taker fued gonna start up? We're running outta time here. These are exciting times if you ask me. I think Mania is gonna be killer this year!
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« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2010, 01:57:54 PM » |
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With Batista backing McMahon on Raw you might see a Batista/Hart Dynasty feud in the future.
I don't think Bret will have anything to do with the Hart Dynasty. He is in a completely different league and show for that matter. He's doing Raw, They're doing Smackdown. Best times in WWE are between the Rumble & WM. We should be in for some good stories here. Batista is helping Vince no doubt as his loophole to get another title shot. |
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2010, 12:07:14 PM » |
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I don't think Bret will have anything to do with the Hart Dynasty. He is in a completely different league and show for that matter. He's doing Raw, They're doing Smackdown.
Best times in WWE are between the Rumble & WM. We should be in for some good stories here. Batista is helping Vince no doubt as his loophole to get another title shot.
I cannot see how VKM wouldn't use Bret to push the Hart Dynasty unless Bret refused? I mean come on lets earn$ here. In my eyes The Hart Dynasty has an unbelieveably bright future. I mean not only because of their Bloodline/Name. But everytime I see them perform they only seem to get better and better. Davey Jr. is a powerhouse and Neidhart is a fox. They're a great, great trio. Realistically Bret or no Bret these guys are going to the top. A push from Bret would just get them there a little sooner. I have a superbowl pig roasting as we speak! |
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2010, 05:58:33 AM » |
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I cannot see how VKM wouldn't use Bret to push the Hart Dynasty unless Bret refused? I mean come on lets earn$ here. In my eyes The Hart Dynasty has an unbelieveably bright future. I mean not only because of their Bloodline/Name. But everytime I see them perform they only seem to get better and better. Davey Jr. is a powerhouse and Neidhart is a fox. They're a great, great trio. Realistically Bret or no Bret these guys are going to the top. A push from Bret would just get them there a little sooner. I have a superbowl pig roasting as we speak!
I want in on that roasting pig! Sounds good! |
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2010, 07:30:40 PM » |
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Davey Jr. is a powerhouse
I can't decide on this guy. He's got the size and power to be really good, but whenever I see him, he doesn't look comfortable with what he's doing, and sometimes he looks plain clumsy. I just can't see him being a main eventer at all. Kidd on the other hand looks really good. |
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2010, 08:46:04 PM » |
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I wonder how many people try to compare him to his Dad.
It's hard not to, but those are awfully big boots to fill.
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« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2010, 06:00:47 AM » |
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I wonder how many people try to compare him to his Dad.
It's hard not to, but those are awfully big boots to fill.
He fails in comparison to his dad IMO. Davey Boy Smith was a one of a kind. His son can wrestle ok but can't cut a promo. He's not all that he is cracked out to be. Mind you he is still young and has lots of time to bloom. |
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« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2010, 09:05:11 AM » |
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Oh, I agree 100%.
We also can’t forget that, for as great as Davey was, he didn’t start like that. No matter how much natural ability someone has, they’re all green when they start out. Davey learned, worked hard, and improved to become one of the most incredible workers ever.
David Jr. is still young, still has some time to improve, and he probably inherited some of his old man’s aptitude.
It's a shame that Davey Sr. isn't around now to coach him.
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« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2010, 09:11:20 AM » |
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One thing I’d like to add as far as father/son wrestlers…
It seems – at least to me – that usually, the son ends up in a different league than his dad. He’s either substantially better, or noticeably not as good. Seldom are they equal.
Q.E.D. – Rock achieved the kind of success that Rocky Johnson probably never dreamt possible. Conversely, David Sammartino should never be mentioned in the same day as his dad – unless Bruno is the one talking.
Again, the pattern seems to be that “junior” is either better or not as good. Unfortunately for David, it’s gonna be difficult to top his old man in the ring.
But, I don’t take that to mean that he’s going to suck (please refrain from thinking of your favorite Pat Patterson dick joke, now).
Only time will tell.
He’s gotten an opportunity that few enjoy. If he really wants it, and he’s smart, he’ll find a way to capitalize on it.
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« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2010, 09:34:32 AM » |
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He just doesn't look confident in his own ability. Like he's unsure of being in the spotlight, and is nervous all the time. Maybe he needs to take a step back down the ladder until he's ready.
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« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2010, 12:44:26 PM » |
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One thing I’d like to add as far as father/son wrestlers…
It seems – at least to me – that usually, the son ends up in a different league than his dad. He’s either substantially better, or noticeably not as good. Seldom are they equal.
Q.E.D. – Rock achieved the kind of success that Rocky Johnson probably never dreamt possible. Conversely, David Sammartino should never be mentioned in the same day as his dad – unless Bruno is the one talking.
Again, the pattern seems to be that “junior” is either better or not as good. Unfortunately for David, it’s gonna be difficult to top his old man in the ring.
But, I don’t take that to mean that he’s going to suck (please refrain from thinking of your favorite Pat Patterson dick joke, now).
Only time will tell.
He’s gotten an opportunity that few enjoy. If he really wants it, and he’s smart, he’ll find a way to capitalize on it.
I noticed that the second / third generation stars are not nearly as good as their fathers. The only wrestlers that surpassed their fathers that quickly come to mind are: Randy Orton Jake Roberts The Rock Ted Dibiase Jr is not nearly as good as his old man. Neither is Cody or Duston Rhodes (Runnels). Those are very, very tough shoes to fill and most likely will not be filled. |
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« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2010, 12:22:10 PM » |
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Cody is getting better and better every time I see him. Ted Jr. will never achieve the greatness the Million Dollar Man was. Million Dollar Man was another one of the very few that never had to reivent himself. Definitely one of the greatest heels in my life time. He stirred the $hit like no other. Great performer.
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« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2010, 01:27:31 PM » |
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Cody is getting better and better every time I see him. Ted Jr. will never achieve the greatness the Million Dollar Man was. Million Dollar Man was another one of the very few that never had to reivent himself. Definitely one of the greatest heels in my life time. He stirred the $hit like no other. Great performer.
The problem I see with Cody is his persona. He is a good up and coming wrestler and a great mat technician but he is a total dud in front of the camara and on the mic. Totally opposite like his old man. When Dusty Rhodes cut a promo he was unbelievable and so was his following. Speaking of Ted Di Biase senior, I was glad to hear the announcement of his HOF induction this year. Long overdue. |
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