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« Reply #1125 on: April 27, 2013, 05:25:29 PM »

...seriously, this guy should have known to keep that shit out of sight at all times.  He should have realized how things may get out of hand in such an environment.
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« Reply #1126 on: April 28, 2013, 06:00:07 AM »

...seriously, this guy should have known to keep that shit out of sight at all times.  He should have realized how things may get out of hand in such an environment.

"It's very scary to know there were guns one floor below me. I had no idea," said one of Goal's co-workers, who described him as pleasant and a hard worker. "But knowing Bernard I'm not scared."


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« Reply #1127 on: April 29, 2013, 06:42:24 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOUdeJqpt8s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOUdeJqpt8s</a>

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« Reply #1128 on: April 29, 2013, 07:15:52 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOUdeJqpt8s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOUdeJqpt8s</a>



From one of the guests on the show "Let's be fair, we don't see that everyday...we don't see that everyday walking down main street, what we saw was a federal response after a horrific bombing"

The guy has a point. Everyday cops don't arm up like that. Even though they may suddenly be in a shoot out with the next call they are on, the odds are that they won't and so they are armed and protected minimally so they can function at all kinds of tasks.. but when SWAT is responding to a situation where it is highly likely to be dangerous, why wouldn't they dress for the occasion? When you see police dressed like that all the time, driving vehicles like that all the time, then there may be a need for crying "police state, police state"
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« Reply #1129 on: April 29, 2013, 05:05:52 PM »

From one of the guests on the show "Let's be fair, we don't see that everyday...we don't see that everyday walking down main street, what we saw was a federal response after a horrific bombing"

The guy has a point. Everyday cops don't arm up like that. Even though they may suddenly be in a shoot out with the next call they are on, the odds are that they won't and so they are armed and protected minimally so they can function at all kinds of tasks.. but when SWAT is responding to a situation where it is highly likely to be dangerous, why wouldn't they dress for the occasion? When you see police dressed like that all the time, driving vehicles like that all the time, then there may be a need for crying "police state, police state"




No, you should never wait for a potential problem to mushroom.  Address it quickly and early.
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« Reply #1130 on: April 30, 2013, 07:34:58 AM »




No, you should never wait for a potential problem to mushroom.  Address it quickly and early.

If it were a problem, I would agree with you. We differ on that aspect.
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« Reply #1131 on: May 02, 2013, 03:03:09 AM »

http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/01/forgetful-skeet-shooting-honors-student


Unreal.   What a stupid nation we live in.
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« Reply #1132 on: May 02, 2013, 01:16:33 PM »

16-Year-Old Florida Honor Student Charged With Two Felonies For Doing A Science Experiment

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Kiera Wilmot was a typical 16-year-old honor student at Bartow Senior High School, in Bartow, Florida. She's never been in trouble. She has a reputation for being nice to everyone, getting straight As, and loving science.
 
But then a science experiment Wilmot conducted on school grounds went slightly wrong.
 
At 7 a.m. on Monday April 30, Wilmot and a yet-to-be-named friend mixed aluminum foil and toilet bowl cleaner in a small water bottle. After about 30 seconds, the reaction created pressure inside the bottle, blowing the cap off with a pop that according to witnesses sounded like firecrackers going off.
 
(Instructions to make this explosion, called a "works bomb," are freely available online. The aluminum in the foil reacts with sodium hydroxide in the cleaner. The reaction produces hydrogen gas, which quickly builds the pressure inside the closed bottle until the plastic can't take it any more and explodes outwards.)
 
The reaction created a small amount of smoke. Her friend walked away, and the Assistant Principal Dan Durham walked over.
 
No one was hurt by the "explosion," but later that day Wilmot was handcuffed, arrested, and expelled from school. According to the police report, she has been charged with two felonies: "possession/discharge of a weapon on school grounds" and "discharging a destructive device."
 
A call to the Polk County Attorney's office yielded no additional information. Because the case is still being investigated, they won't comment on it or even tell us the charges being brought against Wilmot.
 
Wilmot was also expelled for violating the school's conduct code, which requires immediate expulsion for any "student in possession of a bomb (or) explosive device ... while at a school (or) a school-sponsored activity... unless the material or device is being used as part of a legitimate school-related activity or science project conducted under the supervision of an instructor."
 
The school told Riptide blog that Wilmot can challenge her expulsion. There has been no comment from the Wilmot family. When I called the phone number of a Marie Wilmot, who lives at the address reported as the Wilmot home by The Ledger, there was no answer and the voice mailbox was full.
 
Reporters that have approached the Wilmot home have been told by the family that they have no comment.
 
The aluminum foil and drain cleaner reaction is a go-to science experiment. The problem seems to be that she wasn't doing the experiment under controlled safety conditions, as in class or with her teachers. In the police report, Wilmot claimed it was in preparation for the science fair, but supposedly the science teachers said there was no upcoming science fair, according to ABC Action News. And the experiment was also done on school grounds (it was outdoors).
 
If Wilmot had performed the reaction in her own backyard, there would never have been an issue. Sadly, The Ledger reports that Wilmot lives in an apartment, so she probably didn't have access to any private outdoor areas.
 
Scientists around the world are showing support for the high schooler by tweeting about the explosions, fires, and general disruption they've caused as kids (and adults in some cases).
 
There's also a petition to get the police to drop the charges.
 
Here's a video of a similar reaction:


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« Reply #1133 on: May 03, 2013, 06:49:45 AM »

‘Smoking’ gun nets 60G fine

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Posted: 3:16 AM, May 2, 2013

 

The owner of a Midtown tourist shop is firing back at Mayor Bloomberg’s crusade against toy guns, filing papers to block a $60,000 fine from the city for selling lighters shaped like small pistols.

 “We don’t have the money,” said Fred Shayes, 49, who owns US Camera & Computer Inc. near Penn Station. “I would have to take a loan out from the bank to pay that.”

Shayes filed a petition in Manhattan Supreme Court to vacate the fine. At issue is a bronze-and-silver colored 3-inch butane lighter shaped like a gun with a black handle and a red tip that was selling for $10 until investigators slapped the store with a fine and yanked it off their shelves.
 



‘GUN’ LIGHTER Shop owner fights fine.

Under city law, toy guns can’t be sold in the city unless they are bright green, blue, red or a neon color.

Toy guns are also supposed to have a legible stamp identifying the manufacturer or trade name.

Although the gun-shaped lighter can fit in the palm of a smoker’s hand, inspectors for the city’s Department of Consumer Affairs said in 2011 that the lighters could reasonably be confused with a real firearm, and hit Shayes with the fine.

“The day the inspector came, he said, ‘This is illegal,’ ” Shayes said. “I took it off the shelf right away. I sent it back, and I showed them the invoice that proved I returned it.”

He lost in a hearing at the Department of Consumer Affairs’ appeals board, and went to court.
 
Over the past seven years, city officials have seized more than 7,200 illegal toy guns from stores and levied $2.4 million in fines, officials said.

 Retailer Party City paid a record $500,000 in fines for 800 violations of the city’s toy-gun law.

“Imitation guns that are not easily distinguishable from real weapons pose a real and significant danger to public safety,” a spokeswoman for the city’s law department said.

“Merchants who trade in this illegal merchandise must be held accountable.”

Shayes said the fine could put him out of business. He was fined $5,000 for each of the 12 lighters.
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« Reply #1134 on: May 03, 2013, 09:33:49 AM »

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Miami cop fired 8 times could make it 9
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For one police officer, will the ninth strike mean he's out?
 
This time around, Sgt. German Bosque—who has been fired eight times from three different police departments—has been charged with leaving his assault weapon with his girlfriend’s father, a trained security guard, while on an eight-day leave, according to CBS4 Miami.
 
That’s a no-no, says the Opa-locka Police Department, which presented its case to dismiss him in front of an arbitration officer on Wednesday.
 
The station, which covered Bosque's hearing, spoke with City Attorney Joe Geller, who said, "We’re here on a very simple matter. It’s going to be up to the arbitrator. We think what the officer did was wrong.”
 
Geller is arguing that Bosque violated the department’s policy that an officer’s weapon should be secured at all times.
 
But like the Terminator, Bosque has a history of coming back: He's the most fired, fined and disciplined officer in the state, according to CBS4.
 
The Miami cop has managed to return to his post despite his alleged vices. The Miami Herald reports Bosque has beaten back a long list of head-turning charges, including:
 

- busting the skull of a handcuffed suspect
 - beating juveniles
 - having dope and booze in his squad car
 - ripping off suspects
 - falsifying reports
 - participating in an unauthorized chase where four people were killed
 - calling in sick … from Cancun
 
“It’s allegations. Allegations are not convictions,” said Bosque’s union-provided attorney, Andrew Axelrad. “We have a system in place, and that system is a fair system.”
 
To hear Bosque tell it, he just loves his job. “I love serving the community. I love what I do for a living, and I’m very proud,” he said.
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« Reply #1135 on: May 07, 2013, 04:20:41 PM »

Man sues Portland police officer over drunken driving arrest


A man who claims he was pepper-sprayed and arrested on accusations of drunken driving by a Portland police officer after she spotted him vomiting in the doorway of his parked car is suing the officer for $20,275.

Ryan Sumpter claims that officer Kristin Watt didn't have probable cause to arrest him and used excessive force after she spotted him about 2 a.m. on May 2, 2011, sitting in the open driver's side doorway of his parents' car. Sumpter, a California resident, had been out at a bar with friends, felt sick and vomited on the street just as Watt drove by in her patrol car, according to the suit filed this week in Multnomah County Circuit Court.

The suit claims Sumpter had decided to sleep in his car until he felt better, and that Watt told him he needed to call a cab to go home. When it became clear that Sumpter wouldn't call a cab, Watt pepper-sprayed the interior of the car -- causing Sumpter to gag and cough and leave his car, according to the suit filed by Portland attorney Benjamin Haile.

Watt handcuffed Sumpter and he spent two nights in jail. The district attorney's office declined to charge him Sumpter with driving under the influence of intoxicants because of lack of evidence, the suit states. Sumpter was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm because the officer found a weapon in his glove box, but a judge later dismissed that charge. Sumpter also was charged with interfering with a police officer, but a jury later acquitted him.

The suit seeks $20,000 for pain, suffering, humiliation and upset. It also seeks $275 for the cost of an alcohol-detection bracelet he was required to wear after his release from jail.

The city attorney's office declined to comment because of the pending litigation.



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« Reply #1136 on: May 08, 2013, 05:32:29 AM »

U.S. Is Weighing Wide Overhaul of Wiretap Laws
 
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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration, resolving years of internal debate, is on the verge of backing a Federal Bureau of Investigation plan for a sweeping overhaul of surveillance laws that would make it easier to wiretap people who communicate using the Internet rather than by traditional phone services, according to officials familiar with the deliberations.




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The F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, has argued that the bureau’s ability to carry out court-approved eavesdropping on suspects is “going dark” as communications technology evolves, and since 2010 has pushed for a legal mandate requiring companies like Facebook and Google to build into their instant-messaging and other such systems a capacity to comply with wiretap orders. That proposal, however, bogged down amid concerns by other agencies, like the Commerce Department, about quashing Silicon Valley innovation.

While the F.B.I.’s original proposal would have required Internet communications services to each build in a wiretapping capacity, the revised one, which must now be reviewed by the White House, focuses on fining companies that do not comply with wiretap orders. The difference, officials say, means that start-ups with a small number of users would have fewer worries about wiretapping issues unless the companies became popular enough to come to the Justice Department’s attention.

Still, the plan is likely to set off a debate over the future of the Internet if the White House submits it to Congress, according to lawyers for technology companies and advocates of Internet privacy and freedom.

“I think the F.B.I.’s proposal would render Internet communications less secure and more vulnerable to hackers and identity thieves,” said Gregory T. Nojeim of the Center for Democracy and Technology. “It would also mean that innovators who want to avoid new and expensive mandates will take their innovations abroad and develop them there, where there aren’t the same mandates.”

Andrew Weissmann, the general counsel of the F.B.I., said in a statement that the proposal was aimed only at preserving law enforcement officials’ longstanding ability to investigate suspected criminals, spies and terrorists subject to a court’s permission.

“This doesn’t create any new legal surveillance authority,” he said. “This always requires a court order. None of the ‘going dark’ solutions would do anything except update the law given means of modern communications.”

A central element of the F.B.I.’s 2010 proposal was to expand the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act — a 1994 law that already requires phone and network carriers to build interception capabilities into their systems — so that it would also cover Internet-based services that allow people to converse. But the bureau has now largely moved away from that one-size-fits-all mandate.

Instead, the new proposal focuses on strengthening wiretap orders issued by judges. Currently, such orders instruct recipients to provide technical assistance to law enforcement agencies, leaving wiggle room for companies to say they tried but could not make the technology work. Under the new proposal, providers could be ordered to comply, and judges could impose fines if they did not. The shift in thinking toward the judicial fines was first reported by The Washington Post, and additional details were described to The New York Times by several officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Under the proposal, officials said, for a company to be eligible for the strictest deadlines and fines — starting at $25,000 a day — it must first have been put on notice that it needed surveillance capabilities, triggering a 30-day period to consult with the government on any technical problems.

Such notice could be the receipt of its first wiretap order or a warning from the attorney general that it might receive a surveillance request in the future, officials said, arguing that most small start-ups would never receive either.

Michael Sussman, a former Justice Department lawyer who advises communications providers, said that aspect of the plan appeared to be modeled on a British law, the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act of 2000.

Foreign-based communications services that do business in the United States would be subject to the same procedures, and would be required to have a point of contact on domestic soil who could be served with a wiretap order, officials said.

Albert Gidari Jr., who represents technology companies on law enforcement matters, criticized that proposed procedure. He argued that if the United States started imposing fines on foreign Internet firms, it would encourage other countries, some of which may be looking for political dissidents, to penalize American companies if they refused to turn over users’ information.

“We’ll look a lot more like China than America after this,” Mr. Gidari said.

The expanded fines would also apply to phone and network carriers, like Verizon and AT&T, which are separately subject to the 1994 wiretapping capacity law. The FBI has argued that such companies sometimes roll out system upgrades without making sure that their wiretap capabilities will keep working.

The 1994 law would be expanded to cover peer-to-peer voice-over-Internet protocol, or VoIP — calls between computers that do not connect to the regular phone network. Such services typically do not route data packets through any central hub, making them difficult to intercept.

The F.B.I. has abandoned a component of its original proposal that would have required companies that facilitate the encryption of users’ messages to always have a key to unscramble them if presented with a court order. Critics had charged that such a law would create back doors for hackers. The current proposal would allow services that fully encrypt messages between users to keep operating, officials said.

In November 2010, Mr. Mueller toured Silicon Valley and briefed executives on the proposal as it then existed, urging them not to lobby against it, but the firms have adopted a cautious stance. In February 2011, the F.B.I.’s top lawyer at the time testified about the “going dark” problem at a House hearing, emphasizing that there was no administration proposal yet. Still, several top lawmakers at the hearing expressed skepticism, raising fears about innovation and security.
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« Reply #1137 on: May 08, 2013, 06:58:17 AM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/missing-women-cleveland-brothers-arrested/2140359



Nice - cops ignored complaints and warnings. 
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« Reply #1138 on: May 10, 2013, 07:43:19 AM »

http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x568091070/Dad-who-died-during-arrest-begged-for-his-life-cops-take-witness-video



Taxpayers going to screwed on this one. 

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« Reply #1139 on: May 10, 2013, 08:02:45 AM »


Interesting conclusion you have drawn there..

From a recent news story;

Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight are believed to have only been allowed to leave the home briefly on two occasions, both times to go "into the garage in disguise," deputy police chief Ed Tomba told reporters.


I don't want to sound like a blubbering nutcase here but I would suggest we actually wait until we know all the facts before we conclude the police ignored anything... oh wait..forgot where I was for a moment...
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« Reply #1140 on: May 11, 2013, 01:02:24 PM »

http://www.wlox.com/story/22145501/perry-county-police-dies-after-being-left-in-patrol-car-overnight


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« Reply #1141 on: May 11, 2013, 01:08:32 PM »


It would be interesting since in many cases police dogs are considered "officers".
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« Reply #1142 on: May 12, 2013, 11:38:18 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/2-bodies-found-nj-standoff-suspect-killed-142325525.html

F*ing pigs!
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« Reply #1143 on: May 14, 2013, 01:39:14 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyd_NldNSiM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyd_NldNSiM</a>
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« Reply #1144 on: May 14, 2013, 01:58:42 AM »

IMO, the interesting part from the story happens when the cops go back later and try to confiscate the footage filmed by others.  Looks a lot like they were trying to cover their own asses on that.
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« Reply #1145 on: May 14, 2013, 04:44:18 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyd_NldNSiM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyd_NldNSiM</a>

Read about that.   

Disgusting. 

And who will pay - the sucker taxpayers not the criminal thug pigs who will make excuses and give the whole "life on the line" nonsense
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« Reply #1146 on: May 14, 2013, 04:47:38 AM »

Read about that.   

Disgusting. 

And who will pay - the sucker taxpayers not the criminal thug pigs who will make excuses and give the whole "life on the line" nonsense

I would think dismissal and forfeiture of their pensions are in order, ...and just the beginning.
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« Reply #1147 on: May 14, 2013, 05:29:34 PM »

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Been reading up on this and it's fucking disgusting.

Can the deniers on this board at least admit that there are deep rooted systemic problems when it comes to cops using force these days?

Bullshit on the tiny minority crap.  For that to make any sense, you have to believe:

-8, maybe 9, brutal cops all came together on the exact same day, at the exact same point in time, at the exact same location and murdered this guy...then siezed the evidence.  Roll Eyes

-Or, you're in complete denial.

-Or, you're just retarded. 


I only wish they had uploaded that shit to the internet before it got seized.  Would anyone be surprised if it disappeared?

The only tiny glimmer of hope is that an outside agency is investigating.  But given the enormity of the blue wall (yeah, the one were told is similar to the Lochness monster Roll Eyes  ), I wouldn't hold my breath.
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« Reply #1148 on: May 15, 2013, 05:52:23 AM »

Your Next IRS Political Audit
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Even as the politicized tax enforcement scandal expands, the Internal Revenue Service continues to expand its political powers thanks to the Affordable Care Act. A larger government always creates more openings for abuse, as Americans will learn when the IRS starts auditing their health care in addition to their 1040 next year.

Over the last decade or so the tax agency has stretched its portfolio and become an enforcer and decision-maker for government benefits and programs. Three years ago, National Taxpayer Advocate Nina Olson, who operates within the IRS, presciently noted that ObamaCare is "the most extensive social benefit program the IRS has been asked to implement in recent history."

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This March the IRS Inspector General reiterated that ObamaCare's 47 major changes to the revenue code "represent the largest set of tax law changes the IRS has had to implement in more than 20 years." Thus the IRS is playing Thelma to the Health and Human Service Department's Louise. The tax agency has requested funding for 1,954 full-time equivalent employees for its Affordable Care Act office in 2014.

Instead of going after tax cheats, these bureaucrats will write and enforce tax regulations for parts of the economy in which they have no core competence. For example, do ski instructors or public school teachers count as seasonal workers? How long is a "full time" work week? Is it 40 hours, or 30?

The IRS will also dispense ObamaCare's insurance subsidies since technically they're "advanceable" tax credits, i.e., transfer payments made prior to filing a tax return. The IRS will also police the individual mandate-tax to buy health insurance, as well as the business penalties for not offering Washington-approved coverage to employees.

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The data hub will be used as the verification system for ObamaCare's complex subsidy formula. All insurers, self-insured businesses and government health programs must submit reports to the IRS about the individuals they cover, which the IRS will cross-check against tax returns.

Good luck in advance to anyone who gets caught in this system's gears, assuming it even works. Centralizing so much personal information in one place is another invitation for the IRS wigglers in some regional office—or maybe higher up—to make political decisions about enforcement.

A small harbinger: The original 61-page application for ObamaCare subsidies (since junked) asked about voter registration and invited beneficiaries to sign up then and there. What does that have to do with affordable health care?

Or take the recent HHS disclosure that Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has been beseeching the industries she regulates like insurers, hospitals and drug makers for "independent" donations. Ms. Sebelius will then take this money and give it to third-party groups—many affiliated with the Obama Administration—that will encourage people to sign up for ObamaCare.

The distinction between soliciting and demanding is especially vague when the IRS is the bad cop, with millions of dollars on corporate balance sheets potentially at risk. For instance, the IRS is supposed to apportion the annual $8 billion tax on health insurers according to market share—but that depends on how the IRS defines market share. Giving in advance to Ms. Sebelius can quickly begin to look like protection money to avoid corporate tax retribution.

Putting the IRS in charge of a political program inevitably makes the IRS more political. Since the Affordable Care Act converts every health question into a political question, maybe there's a better candidate?

A version of this article appeared May 15, 2013, on page A14 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: Your Next IRS Political Audit.
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« Reply #1149 on: May 16, 2013, 06:39:10 AM »

Police shoot support dog; neighbors say they didn’t need to do it
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Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:02:08 AM by Altariel

DACONO, Colo. — A Dacono family is demanding answers from police, after their support dog was shot when he got loose and ran toward a neighbor’s yard Sunday night.

Mongo, a 3-year-old pit bull puppy, is recovering from a gunshot wound to the chest, as his owner, James Vester, is hoping for an apology from Dacono Police.

“I didn’t think I would see that again. You see it in Iraq — and then you see your best friend here get shot,” said Vester, a Marine Corp. sniper, who says he got Mongo, a certified emotional support dog, to alleviate stress after returning from combat.

Vester said he was doing yard work, when Mongo got loose. Minutes later, a neighbor called police because Mongo began barking at her dogs from across a fence. Because Dacono’s animal control officer is off on Sunday’s, two police officers responded to the scene.

According to police reports, when the officers arrived, Mongo became aggressive, allegedly barking, growling and then lunging at an officer. That’s why when the officer opened fired, police said.

Despite the reports, several neighbors had a different take on what happened.

“There was no noise at first, I just heard the gunshot — then the dog started crying,” said Heather Viera, who said she opened her door, but was told to go back inside her home. “I had thought maybe it got hit by a car.”

Another neighbor, Jenny Stevens, was just a few hundred feet down the street, walking her two dogs, when she heard the shot fired.

“There was no barking. It was dead silent — There was not a bark, there wasn’t a growl,” said Stevens. “The cop did not say stop to the dog, the cop didn’t yell anything.”

We brought the neighbor’s accounts to the Dacono Police Chief Matthew B. Skaggs, who told us that an internal investigation was being conducted, but that according to the testimony of critical witnesses, the officers did folllow protocol.

“I think it is important to remember these things develop very quickly,” said Skaggs. “If you look in the report, the officer did say specifically that the dog got within six feet of him and at that point he felt like it was his only option.”

Though, Mongo’s owner finds that hard to believe.

“Now I don’t even know what to do, what to think, or how to react,” said Vester. “I just feel dead inside right now.”

The results of the internal investigation are still two weeks away. We’re told the officer who shot Mongo will not be placed on leave.
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