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« Reply #1825 on: October 16, 2014, 02:58:46 PM »
therein lies the problem.... they can just say 'he was reaching for my gun', and any behavior is suddenly OK as long as there isnt clear proof to the contrary. Thats a dangerous thing

but what if he was? Should the cop pretend it didn't happen because someone might not believe them? I agree cops shouldn't make shit up. If a cop is caught making shit up they need to be fired. On the other hand, if a cop is trying to take someone into custody and they resist, they could get hurt, the cop could get hurt and sometimes people make a grab for the gun. When that happens, you tend to get shot or hit until the behavor stops. All I'm saying here is that it's impossible for me to conclude with the video, that the cop is lying about it. 

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« Reply #1826 on: October 16, 2014, 03:05:20 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/16/david-mccallum-wrongfully-imprisoned_n_5996810.html



UNREAL  - 25 YEARS BEHIND BARS DIDNT DO SHIT

Another innocent man exonerated. His friend wasn't so lucky and died in prison... It's outrageous how many people have been wrongfully convicted due to coerced confessions or false testimony of unreliable witnesses only for some DAs, judges and cops to get credit for being "tough on crime". There should be consequences for scum like that. At minimum they should receive whatever sentence the innocent man got (in addition to other charges) and pay out of their pockets, not send taxpayers the bill.

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« Reply #1827 on: October 20, 2014, 09:51:10 AM »
Another innocent man exonerated. His friend wasn't so lucky and died in prison... It's outrageous how many people have been wrongfully convicted due to coerced confessions or false testimony of unreliable witnesses only for some DAs, judges and cops to get credit for being "tough on crime". There should be consequences for scum like that. At minimum they should receive whatever sentence the innocent man got (in addition to other charges) and pay out of their pockets, not send taxpayers the bill.

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« Reply #1828 on: October 20, 2014, 11:33:42 AM »
Props to that citizen. The outcome would probably be very different had this happened in the US.


Motorist Arrests Policeman for Driving Drunk

A South African driver is being praised for taking charge after spotting a cop allegedly driving under the influence through the streets of Pietermaritzburg.

http://www.neatorama.com/2013/01/18/Motorist-Arrests-Policeman-for-Driving-Drunk/

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« Reply #1829 on: October 20, 2014, 12:01:41 PM »
Props to that citizen. The outcome would probably be very different had this happened in the US.


Motorist Arrests Policeman for Driving Drunk

A South African driver is being praised for taking charge after spotting a cop allegedly driving under the influence through the streets of Pietermaritzburg.

http://www.neatorama.com/2013/01/18/Motorist-Arrests-Policeman-for-Driving-Drunk/

Awesome job by the citizen. Depending on where it happened in the US, the results could be similar.

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« Reply #1830 on: October 20, 2014, 12:42:54 PM »
Awesome job by the citizen. Depending on where it happened in the US, the results could be similar.

LOL.

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« Reply #1831 on: October 20, 2014, 01:13:41 PM »
LOL.

I'm not about to speak for every police dept in the country... ;-)   

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« Reply #1832 on: October 20, 2014, 02:01:58 PM »
Awesome job by the citizen. Depending on where it happened in the US, the results could be similar.

By similar do you mean completely different?

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« Reply #1833 on: October 20, 2014, 02:08:34 PM »
By similar do you mean completely different?

 :)

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« Reply #1834 on: October 21, 2014, 07:25:08 AM »


The Government Created a Facebook Profile for This Woman (Without Telling Her)

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A woman is suing the Drug Enforcement Administration after an agent copied pictures from her cellphone in order to create a fake Facebook profile in her name–all without her knowledge or consent.

Sondra Arquiett, the plaintiff in the suit, was arrested in 2010 on charges of possession with intent to distribute cocaine. Law enforcement officials alleged she was part of a drug ring that included her then-boyfriend. The single mother eventually pled guilty and was sentenced to time served plus a period of home confinement. As part of her cooperation with officials, she allowed them to search her phone for evidence relating to the original offense for which she was charged.

What she did not expect, however, was that Drug Enforcement Administration Special Agent Timothy Sinnigen would copy the pictures on her cell phone and use them to create a phony social media account. The profile was set up in the name of Sondra Prince—Arquiett’s former surname—and Sinnigen regularly used the phony account to post status updates, pictures and add friends—all in the hope of luring in other members of the drug ring.

One picture the fake profile displayed was an image of Arquiett holding her two young children. Another showed her posing in a suggestive manner on the hood of a vehicle with the caption, “At least I still have this car!”


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In a court filing, the government defended Sinnigen’s decision to create a fake profile without Arquiett’s knowledge, stating:


Defendants admit that Plaintiff did not give express permission for the use of photographs contained on her phone on an undercover Facebook page, but state the Plaintiff implicitly consented by granting access to the information stored in her cell phone and by consenting to the use of that information to aid in an ongoing criminal investigations [sic].

While the decision to create a phony Facebook account may seem strange, it is not uncommon for police.

Just as police officers often pretend to be someone they are not when acting in an undercover capacity, many police department nationwide have used the tactic of creating accounts of fictional people to interact with others or observe criminal behavior. Indeed, the Justice Department released a social media guide for law enforcement officials that encourages this practice, although there is no indication that taking photos of real person without their consent is allowed.

In 2013, the New York Times reported the extent of police using social media accounts:


Officers follow crew members on Twitter and Instagram, or friend them on Facebook, pretending to be young women to get around privacy settings that limit what can be seen. They listen to the lyrical taunts of local rap artists, some affiliated with crews, and watch YouTube for clues to past trouble and future conflicts.

But this most recent case raises new questions about the legality of impersonating an identity–even if it aids in law enforcement investigations. How many other accounts exist without the person’s knowledge or consent to support “ongoing criminal investigations”?

At the very least, this practice violates Facebook’s terms of service. According to Facebook, users must agree not to “provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.” The Drug Enforcement Administration clearly violated the terms of service by setting up an account without the permission from Arquiett. Facebook has since deleted the profile, telling BuzzFeed, “We removed the profile because it violates our community standards.”

Perhaps more troubling is the government’s rationale for why they believe Arquiett consented to this behavior. The Justice Department claimed that by simply granting access to her phone, she also gave them permission to use the information obtained in any manner possible to support “ongoing criminal investigations.”

If this rationale were extended in others areas, could agents who search a house with the homeowner’s consent then steal items inside for whatever purpose they saw fit? Or could a driver’s permission to search an automobile also grant “permission” for officers to siphon the gasoline to power police cars? The Fourth Amendment protects “against unreasonable searches and seizures,” and would equally prevent the government from impersonating you on social media without your consent.

Then there is the double standard being used in favor of the government and against the average person. If a private citizen engaged in this behavior, he or she would be arrested and sent to jail, as has happened on several occasions.
•In 2013, Cheryl Nelson created a fake Facebook account with her ex-boyfriend’s personal information to make it look like his new girlfriend was threatening her. Nelson was subsequently charged with false report of a felony and unlawful posting of a message.
•In 2012, two middle school students set up a fake Facebook account to bully a fellow student and demean her character. The students were arrested on a third-degree felony charge of online impersonation.
•In 2007, Hillary Transue was arrested and sentenced her to three months at a juvenile detention center on a charge of harassment after she made a spoof MySpace account that poked fun at her school principal.

These private citizens were all arrested for engaging in virtually the same behavior as the Drug Enforcement Administration. Shouldn’t the government be held to the same standard?

To be sure, police routinely use covert measures in order to apprehend criminals. Undercover operators work with criminals, break the speed limit to catch a fleeing suspect, or buy, transport or possess illegal drugs. Society allows these actions in recognition of their necessity to aid the police in their duties. It is quite a different matter, however, when law enforcement exceeds these boundaries and stretches the notion of implied consent into an absurd result.

No one impliedly consents that items found during a search of a car, home or person will be used in any manner the government wishes. Nor does one impliedly consent to be put in danger or to have his reputation besmirched by whatever the police choose to do with one’s property.

Stealing the identity of a woman without her consent or knowledge goes far beyond the standard of acceptable behavior for law enforcement.

The Drug Enforcement Administration’s conduct here takes an inch and makes it a mile.

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #1835 on: October 21, 2014, 07:41:51 AM »

The Government Created a Facebook Profile for This Woman (Without Telling Her)

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Jordan Richardson is a visiting legal fellow in the Meese Center at The Heritage Foundation.

A woman is suing the Drug Enforcement Administration after an agent copied pictures from her cellphone in order to create a fake Facebook profile in her name–all without her knowledge or consent.

Sondra Arquiett, the plaintiff in the suit, was arrested in 2010 on charges of possession with intent to distribute cocaine. Law enforcement officials alleged she was part of a drug ring that included her then-boyfriend. The single mother eventually pled guilty and was sentenced to time served plus a period of home confinement. As part of her cooperation with officials, she allowed them to search her phone for evidence relating to the original offense for which she was charged.

What she did not expect, however, was that Drug Enforcement Administration Special Agent Timothy Sinnigen would copy the pictures on her cell phone and use them to create a phony social media account. The profile was set up in the name of Sondra Prince—Arquiett’s former surname—and Sinnigen regularly used the phony account to post status updates, pictures and add friends—all in the hope of luring in other members of the drug ring.

One picture the fake profile displayed was an image of Arquiett holding her two young children. Another showed her posing in a suggestive manner on the hood of a vehicle with the caption, “At least I still have this car!”


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In a court filing, the government defended Sinnigen’s decision to create a fake profile without Arquiett’s knowledge, stating:


Defendants admit that Plaintiff did not give express permission for the use of photographs contained on her phone on an undercover Facebook page, but state the Plaintiff implicitly consented by granting access to the information stored in her cell phone and by consenting to the use of that information to aid in an ongoing criminal investigations [sic].

While the decision to create a phony Facebook account may seem strange, it is not uncommon for police.

Just as police officers often pretend to be someone they are not when acting in an undercover capacity, many police department nationwide have used the tactic of creating accounts of fictional people to interact with others or observe criminal behavior. Indeed, the Justice Department released a social media guide for law enforcement officials that encourages this practice, although there is no indication that taking photos of real person without their consent is allowed.

In 2013, the New York Times reported the extent of police using social media accounts:


Officers follow crew members on Twitter and Instagram, or friend them on Facebook, pretending to be young women to get around privacy settings that limit what can be seen. They listen to the lyrical taunts of local rap artists, some affiliated with crews, and watch YouTube for clues to past trouble and future conflicts.

But this most recent case raises new questions about the legality of impersonating an identity–even if it aids in law enforcement investigations. How many other accounts exist without the person’s knowledge or consent to support “ongoing criminal investigations”?

At the very least, this practice violates Facebook’s terms of service. According to Facebook, users must agree not to “provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.” The Drug Enforcement Administration clearly violated the terms of service by setting up an account without the permission from Arquiett. Facebook has since deleted the profile, telling BuzzFeed, “We removed the profile because it violates our community standards.”

Perhaps more troubling is the government’s rationale for why they believe Arquiett consented to this behavior. The Justice Department claimed that by simply granting access to her phone, she also gave them permission to use the information obtained in any manner possible to support “ongoing criminal investigations.”

If this rationale were extended in others areas, could agents who search a house with the homeowner’s consent then steal items inside for whatever purpose they saw fit? Or could a driver’s permission to search an automobile also grant “permission” for officers to siphon the gasoline to power police cars? The Fourth Amendment protects “against unreasonable searches and seizures,” and would equally prevent the government from impersonating you on social media without your consent.

Then there is the double standard being used in favor of the government and against the average person. If a private citizen engaged in this behavior, he or she would be arrested and sent to jail, as has happened on several occasions.
•In 2013, Cheryl Nelson created a fake Facebook account with her ex-boyfriend’s personal information to make it look like his new girlfriend was threatening her. Nelson was subsequently charged with false report of a felony and unlawful posting of a message.
•In 2012, two middle school students set up a fake Facebook account to bully a fellow student and demean her character. The students were arrested on a third-degree felony charge of online impersonation.
•In 2007, Hillary Transue was arrested and sentenced her to three months at a juvenile detention center on a charge of harassment after she made a spoof MySpace account that poked fun at her school principal.

These private citizens were all arrested for engaging in virtually the same behavior as the Drug Enforcement Administration. Shouldn’t the government be held to the same standard?

To be sure, police routinely use covert measures in order to apprehend criminals. Undercover operators work with criminals, break the speed limit to catch a fleeing suspect, or buy, transport or possess illegal drugs. Society allows these actions in recognition of their necessity to aid the police in their duties. It is quite a different matter, however, when law enforcement exceeds these boundaries and stretches the notion of implied consent into an absurd result.

No one impliedly consents that items found during a search of a car, home or person will be used in any manner the government wishes. Nor does one impliedly consent to be put in danger or to have his reputation besmirched by whatever the police choose to do with one’s property.

Stealing the identity of a woman without her consent or knowledge goes far beyond the standard of acceptable behavior for law enforcement.

The Drug Enforcement Administration’s conduct here takes an inch and makes it a mile.


Yeah...they overstepped their bounds in creating the FB page without the consent of the person.

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« Reply #1836 on: October 21, 2014, 03:55:02 PM »
Former prison guard to serve no time for sexually assaulting inmates

http://www.wlky.com/news/former-prison-guard-to-serve-no-time-for-sexually-assaulting-inmates/29233026

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« Reply #1837 on: October 22, 2014, 11:06:27 AM »

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« Reply #1838 on: October 22, 2014, 02:49:12 PM »
Yeah...they overstepped their bounds in creating the FB page without the consent of the person.

Agent who did it goes by ENZO on getbig, I hear.

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« Reply #1839 on: October 23, 2014, 07:18:21 AM »
A lieutenant with my department was just fired yesterday. Apparently he was having an affair with a married woman for the last eight years and got her husband arrested with false claims of harassment.  POS . Through away a career and his integrity over and married woman. I hope he enjoys his new career a McDonald's while he pays off whatever settlement that guy gets

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« Reply #1840 on: October 23, 2014, 10:00:51 AM »
A lieutenant with my department was just fired yesterday. Apparently he was having an affair with a married woman for the last eight years and got her husband arrested with false claims of harassment.  POS . Through away a career and his integrity over and married woman. I hope he enjoys his new career a McDonald's while he pays off whatever settlement that guy gets


He should do hard time not just get fired.

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« Reply #1841 on: October 23, 2014, 11:03:40 AM »

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« Reply #1843 on: October 23, 2014, 01:44:08 PM »

He should do hard time not just get fired.

It's not over, I'm sure. But the first step in the process was the investigation, next the hearing and termination. Official Oppression comes to mind as a charge against him

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« Reply #1844 on: October 23, 2014, 01:49:00 PM »
It's not over, I'm sure. But the first step in the process was the investigation, next the hearing and termination. Official Oppression comes to mind as a charge against him


Official Oppression ?

Is that police slang for rape?

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« Reply #1845 on: October 24, 2014, 01:26:20 PM »

Official Oppression ?

Is that police slang for rape?

no

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« Reply #1846 on: October 24, 2014, 01:32:50 PM »
Video: NYPD Officer Kicks Colleague in the Head During Arrest

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20141023/coney-island/video-nypd-officer-kicks-colleague-head-during-arrest

Didn't look like the hardest kick but the kick-ee looked pretty shaken up:

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #1847 on: October 24, 2014, 09:41:29 PM »
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-asks-cop-stop-cursing/

Glad to see David Barrett is now a convicted felon and will be held accountable for his actions. I am forced to wonder what the outcome would have been if he was on duty at the time of this incident? Something tells me that his official police report would be detailing how this elderly man swung his hip in a threatening fashion and he was afraid for his life.

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« Reply #1848 on: October 25, 2014, 01:39:55 PM »
So it turns out the vermin viewed this as a "game" and have been doing it for years...

Warrant: CHP officer says stealing nude photos from female arrestees 'game' for cops

http://www.contracostatimes.com/my-town/ci_26793090/warrant-chp-officer-says-stealing-nude-photos-from

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #1849 on: October 27, 2014, 05:22:42 AM »
Law Lets I.R.S. Seize Accounts on Suspicion, No Crime Required
New York TImes ^  | October 27, 2014 | Sheila Dewan

Posted on ‎10‎/‎27‎/‎2014‎ ‎7‎:‎43‎:‎20‎ ‎AM by Makana

ARNOLDS PARK, Iowa — For almost 40 years, Carole Hinders has dished out Mexican specialties at her modest cash-only restaurant. For just as long, she deposited the earnings at a small bank branch a block away — until last year, when two tax agents knocked on her door and informed her that they had seized her checking account, almost $33,000.

The Internal Revenue Service agents did not accuse Ms. Hinders of money laundering or cheating on her taxes — in fact, she has not been charged with any crime. Instead, the money was seized solely because she had deposited less than $10,000 at a time, which they viewed as an attempt to avoid triggering a required government report.

“How can this happen?” Ms. Hinders said in a recent interview. “Who takes your money before they prove that you’ve done anything wrong with it?”


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