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« Reply #1875 on: December 02, 2014, 12:44:49 PM »
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« Reply #1876 on: December 02, 2014, 01:28:13 PM »
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« Reply #1877 on: December 03, 2014, 01:21:15 PM »

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« Reply #1878 on: December 13, 2014, 09:22:26 AM »

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« Reply #1879 on: December 14, 2014, 12:00:50 PM »
Man Dies During Traffic Stop From Asthma Attack as Cop Refuses to Let them Drive to Hospital


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-dies-traffic-stop-asthma-attack-cop-refuses-drive-hospital/

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« Reply #1880 on: December 14, 2014, 04:58:40 PM »

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« Reply #1881 on: December 18, 2014, 11:43:43 AM »
Innocent Man Raided, Tased, Beaten, & Shot By a Corrupt SWAT Team who Lied to Get the Raid

Houston, TX — A completely innocent man was shot, tasered, brutally beaten, and had stun grenades thrown at him by vicious and incompetent SWAT officers. Then, those same officers tried to cover up their mistake by charging the victim, Chad Chadwick, with six criminal offenses including felony assault on a police officer.

This incident happened in 2011, but it has taken Chadwick three years and his entire life savings, to finally beat the charges that he was falsely accused of. Last month, a jury found Chad Chadwick not guilty of interfering with police.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/innocent-man-raided-tased-beaten-shot-corrupt-swat-team-lied-raid/

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« Reply #1882 on: December 18, 2014, 06:10:15 PM »
Ditto Jack

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« Reply #1883 on: December 21, 2014, 08:07:05 AM »
Man Dies During Traffic Stop From Asthma Attack as Cop Refuses to Let them Drive to Hospital


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-dies-traffic-stop-asthma-attack-cop-refuses-drive-hospital/



I'm not big on the argument that she should be allowed to recklessly endanger the lives of everybody else to get her boyfriend to the hospital.

That said, no reason why the cop couldn't have put him in his car and gotten him to the hospital.  Cop sounds like trash.  In Philly, that's exactly what they do cause the ambulance can't always get through in time.

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« Reply #1884 on: December 22, 2014, 08:45:10 AM »
Man Dies During Traffic Stop From Asthma Attack as Cop Refuses to Let them Drive to Hospital


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-dies-traffic-stop-asthma-attack-cop-refuses-drive-hospital/

had it been any one of the 2000 cops here it would have had the same result. After decades of experience and history on dealing with these situations, policy is in place that prohibits police from allowing the people to continue on as it's obvious a danger. Protocol is to call an ambulance to the location. Cops are not allowed to load them in their cars and drive them. There is no guarantee they can make it any faster than an ambulance can make it to their location, and in most cases there is an EMS/Fire station closer than any hospital.  And if the person dies in the cop car guess what happens. So for every one person who dies waiting for an ambulance, a ton are saved by the protocol.  Doesn't make this any less tragic, it's a horrible story, but it's not because the cop didn't care. He didn't have much choice and believed what he was doing was the best option.

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« Reply #1885 on: December 22, 2014, 08:55:26 AM »
had it been any one of the 2000 cops here it would have had the same result. After decades of experience and history on dealing with these situations, policy is in place that prohibits police from allowing the people to continue on as it's obvious a danger. Protocol is to call an ambulance to the location. Cops are not allowed to load them in their cars and drive them. There is no guarantee they can make it any faster than an ambulance can make it to their location, and in most cases there is an EMS/Fire station closer than any hospital.  And if the person dies in the cop car guess what happens. So for every one person who dies waiting for an ambulance, a ton are saved by the protocol.  Doesn't make this any less tragic, it's a horrible story, but it's not because the cop didn't care. He didn't have much choice and believed what he was doing was the best option.


What happens?



Philadelphia's unusual but effective policy: Police can transport trauma victims


".....The race against time that officers made with Seward is commonplace for police in Philadelphia. Officers at times must make a life-or-death choice when they come across shooting victims who are rapidly losing blood: Risk watching them bleed to death in a matter of minutes, or put them in the car and drive.

Philadelphia is one of a few cities that use police transports, sometimes called "scoop and runs" by officers, or "cop drops" by doctors.

The department does not keep numbers on it, but some patrol officers estimate that they take as many as a third of the city's shooting victims to hospitals. Police in high-crime neighborhoods often arrive at scenes several minutes ahead of an ambulance. And since Philadelphia's EMS and ambulance system has long been described as overworked and stretched thin, police commanders say a police transport is an efficient choice when a shooting victim is near death.

Police also believe that without transports, the city's murder rate would be higher.

Deputy Police Commissioner Kevin Bethel has championed the policy. Besides getting some patients to hospitals faster, he said, getting victims off the street can defuse tension and lessen the chance of a retaliatory shooting.

"Is it perfect?" Bethel said. "No. Obviously, there are some times when officers don't take someone, or they wait too long. But the bottom line is that it saves lives....."



http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-04/news/32007368_1_shooting-victims-officers-transport


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« Reply #1886 on: December 22, 2014, 09:04:08 AM »

What happens?



Philadelphia's unusual but effective policy: Police can transport trauma victims


".....The race against time that officers made with Seward is commonplace for police in Philadelphia. Officers at times must make a life-or-death choice when they come across shooting victims who are rapidly losing blood: Risk watching them bleed to death in a matter of minutes, or put them in the car and drive.

Philadelphia is one of a few cities that use police transports, sometimes called "scoop and runs" by officers, or "cop drops" by doctors.

The department does not keep numbers on it, but some patrol officers estimate that they take as many as a third of the city's shooting victims to hospitals. Police in high-crime neighborhoods often arrive at scenes several minutes ahead of an ambulance. And since Philadelphia's EMS and ambulance system has long been described as overworked and stretched thin, police commanders say a police transport is an efficient choice when a shooting victim is near death.

Police also believe that without transports, the city's murder rate would be higher.

Deputy Police Commissioner Kevin Bethel has championed the policy. Besides getting some patients to hospitals faster, he said, getting victims off the street can defuse tension and lessen the chance of a retaliatory shooting.

"Is it perfect?" Bethel said. "No. Obviously, there are some times when officers don't take someone, or they wait too long. But the bottom line is that it saves lives....."



http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-04/news/32007368_1_shooting-victims-officers-transport



Interesting. How can a department "not keep numbers on it"? Just about every aspect is tracked these days. If the data was tracked it could help municipalities decide for themselves if they want to implement the policy. It may be unique to them due to the overworked and stretched EMS system they have.

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #1887 on: December 28, 2014, 01:09:32 PM »
Indecent proposition from New London chief was 'chilling' says victim

Westfall, who was 18 at the time, was arrested by Seastrand, then 50, on March 2, 2013, as she walked home from a party. She was charged with giving a false name and for being in possession of a beer can.

Four days later, Seastrand called her to the police station. The former chief told Westfall he needed to meet with her alone, and began discussing alternative measures of punishment, like community service, for the misdemeanors. Seastrand explained, she said, that they would go into the basement. "He said would grab the station's camera to shoot a series of nude photos of me, and then he'd hold it over my head for two years to be sure I didn't commit another crime," Westfall said. Seastrand told her he would deny the whole incident if she told anyone.

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State prosecutors, while calling Seastrand's actions "abhorrent behavior and unacceptable behavior for anyone in that type of a position," did not file criminal charges against him.

They later explained that the only law applicable to the case was the abuse of power statute, under which a public official is guilty of a misdemeanor if he or she knowingly commits an unauthorized act "which purports to be an act of his office" or "knowingly refrains from performing a duty imposed on him by law or clearly inherent in the nature of his office."

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20141228/NEWS03/141229456

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #1888 on: December 29, 2014, 05:23:31 AM »
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-patrol-car-shot-20141228-story.html



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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #1889 on: December 29, 2014, 06:06:27 AM »
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-patrol-car-shot-20141228-story.html

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Life in prison for this jackass. 

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« Reply #1890 on: December 29, 2014, 08:17:33 AM »
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-patrol-car-shot-20141228-story.html



See - this type of shit does not help at all.  FNG animals



This doesn't belong in the police state thread, cops didn't do anything wrong.


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« Reply #1891 on: January 04, 2015, 12:40:55 AM »
This is How Child Molesting Cops are Treated in a Corrupt Police State

Fauquier County, VA — The special treatment a Virginia state trooper received, who was charged with with forcible sodomy on a minor, aggressive sexual battery and indecent liberties with a child, among other charges, will turn your stomach.

Fauguier.com reported in December on the details of the charges and the subsequent outcome of the plea bargain.

    Christopher Allen Carson, 30, pleaded guilty to a felony count of criminal solicitation, a count of contributing to delinquency of a minor and one count of exposing his penis to a child. Carson also pleaded guilty to two counts of loaning pornographic videos to a child.

    Judge Herman A. Whisenant Jr. accepted Carson’s pleas as part of a bargain on the day Carson was to face a jury trial. Carson was originally charged with forcible sodomy, aggressive sexual battery and indecent liberties with a child.

    Whisenant recommended a sentence of nine years in prison, all but 30 days of which to be suspended, and two years of probation. As part of the plea agreement, Carson does not have to register as a sex offender. Also as part of the agreement, two additional active charges of forcible sodomy and indecent liberties with a child will be dropped.

This man orally forced himself onto a sleeping 7th grader and he will only be going to jail for 30 days. Let that sink in.

Also, Carson will not have to comply with Virginia’s Sex Offender and Crimes Against Minors Registry Act.

To put into perspective the level of special treatment given to Carson we can look at a similar case in which the honorable Judge Herman A. Whisenant Jr. presided. Donald Hausen, 35, racked up similarly disgusting charges of aggravated sexual battery, manufacturing child pornography, distribution of child pornography and possession of child pornography.

Whisenant gave him 66 years in jail and Hausen will also be required to register as a violent sex offender.

Hausen deserved this sentence, so did Carson. The only difference is that Christopher Allen Carson, was part of the team. Instead of being held to higher standards, like he should be, for being a police officer, Carson was given little to no punishment because of his badge.

Is this justice?

Joaquin Gonzalez Vicencio, 30, and Joaquin Berumen Cortes, 24, were caught growing marijuana in a forest in 2013 in Charlottesville, Va.. Neither one of these men had caused harm to anyone else.

Vicencio was sentenced to 11 years in a federal penitentiary and Cortes was sentenced to 10.

In America, child raping cops are let off while men trying to grow a plant are thrown in a cage. The deeper one digs into the corruption within court systems in the US, the more “Justice” looks like “Just Us.”


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/child-molesting-cops-treated-corrupt-police-state/

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« Reply #1892 on: January 04, 2015, 01:13:50 AM »
This is How Child Molesting Cops are Treated in a Corrupt Police State

Fauquier County, VA — The special treatment a Virginia state trooper received, who was charged with with forcible sodomy on a minor, aggressive sexual battery and indecent liberties with a child, among other charges, will turn your stomach.

Fauguier.com reported in December on the details of the charges and the subsequent outcome of the plea bargain.

    Christopher Allen Carson, 30, pleaded guilty to a felony count of criminal solicitation, a count of contributing to delinquency of a minor and one count of exposing his penis to a child. Carson also pleaded guilty to two counts of loaning pornographic videos to a child.

    Judge Herman A. Whisenant Jr. accepted Carson’s pleas as part of a bargain on the day Carson was to face a jury trial. Carson was originally charged with forcible sodomy, aggressive sexual battery and indecent liberties with a child.

    Whisenant recommended a sentence of nine years in prison, all but 30 days of which to be suspended, and two years of probation. As part of the plea agreement, Carson does not have to register as a sex offender. Also as part of the agreement, two additional active charges of forcible sodomy and indecent liberties with a child will be dropped.

This man orally forced himself onto a sleeping 7th grader and he will only be going to jail for 30 days. Let that sink in.

Also, Carson will not have to comply with Virginia’s Sex Offender and Crimes Against Minors Registry Act.

To put into perspective the level of special treatment given to Carson we can look at a similar case in which the honorable Judge Herman A. Whisenant Jr. presided. Donald Hausen, 35, racked up similarly disgusting charges of aggravated sexual battery, manufacturing child pornography, distribution of child pornography and possession of child pornography.

Whisenant gave him 66 years in jail and Hausen will also be required to register as a violent sex offender.

Hausen deserved this sentence, so did Carson. The only difference is that Christopher Allen Carson, was part of the team. Instead of being held to higher standards, like he should be, for being a police officer, Carson was given little to no punishment because of his badge.

Is this justice?

Joaquin Gonzalez Vicencio, 30, and Joaquin Berumen Cortes, 24, were caught growing marijuana in a forest in 2013 in Charlottesville, Va.. Neither one of these men had caused harm to anyone else.

Vicencio was sentenced to 11 years in a federal penitentiary and Cortes was sentenced to 10.

In America, child raping cops are let off while men trying to grow a plant are thrown in a cage. The deeper one digs into the corruption within court systems in the US, the more “Justice” looks like “Just Us.”


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/child-molesting-cops-treated-corrupt-police-state/
Maybe you actually might want to read what the case was about.
This happened before he became a Trooper. I thappened in 2001, when he was 18, and he became a trooper in 2005.  
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"Three of the charges to which Carson pleaded guilty stemmed from a series of incidents in 2001 where Carson, then 18

 http://www.fauquier.com/news/article/state_trooper_found_guilty_of_sex_abuse_charges

I expect you to actually know your shit and do research before posting, it is unbecoming for you. What you did was post an article and make a post that makes it seem like he did this while he was a trooper. If you know anything about VA, if he did this as a Trooper, they may have used him as target practice and made an example of him.

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« Reply #1893 on: January 04, 2015, 01:58:00 AM »
Maybe you actually might want to read what the case was about.
This happened before he became a Trooper. I thappened in 2001, when he was 18, and he became a trooper in 2005.  
 http://www.fauquier.com/news/article/state_trooper_found_guilty_of_sex_abuse_charges

I expect you to actually know your shit and do research before posting, it is unbecoming for you. What you did was post an article and make a post that makes it seem like he did this while he was a trooper. If you know anything about VA, if he did this as a Trooper, they may have used him as target practice and made an example of him.

The point of the freethoughproject article, and the question it posed, was whether or not he received a special plea deal because he was an officer at the time charges were brought against him.

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #1894 on: January 09, 2015, 08:33:06 AM »

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« Reply #1895 on: January 09, 2015, 11:00:51 AM »
Trio of SAPD officers suspended for 'mistaken identity' beating


http://www.kens5.com/story/news/investigations/i-team/2015/01/08/sapd-beating-mistaken-identity-update/21457943/

Obviously it's not good enough to say "I've looked at the information, pictures and evidence and there is no indication of excessive force" Nothing the Chief has said explains the damage to the mans face. If the evidence does show the force was reasonable for whatever reason, Carlos was resisting, arguing, wouldn't comply etc etc, this Chief owes it to the public and the officers to at least say;

On the surface this looks bad, but here's why we came to this conclusion and the 5 day suspension".. then roll out the facts. As it stands, it looks to me like any male citizen remotely resembling a fleeing suspect is in danger of being hurt and scarred by pursuing police and are at risk. That's just unacceptable to me. 

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« Reply #1896 on: January 17, 2015, 10:04:59 AM »
Police Assault And Handcuff Wrong Man. But It’s Okay, they “Did It In Good Faith”

If a civilian assaults someone and deprives them of their freedom, they can not simply say it was an accident and be off the hook.

St. Ann, Missouri – Police in a town just outside of St. Louis recently assaulted and handcuffed the wrong person during a high speed chase. 22-year-old Joseph Swink was driving down the road, minding his own business last week, when his car was hit by a vehicle that was in a high speed chase with police.

Swink’s car was hit by the fleeing suspect, who continued to speed down the road after the collision. Instead of following after the suspect, police stopped the car that had been hit. Then they proceeded to assault and detain Joseph Swink, thinking that he was the man they were after.

As police arrived on the scene of the crash and saw Swink, they came after him as if he was the person that they were chasing. He then tried to explain to them what happened, and who he was, but according to the police department this could be considered resisting arrest. Police tackled Swink to the ground and handcuffed him as he attempted to explain the situation.

Police Chief Aaron Jimenez admitted to the incident and apologized in a statement to reporters.

“We did put handcuffs on the wrong guy, and I apologize for that. But they did it in good faith. It was literally an accident. He gets out and runs toward the back of the car, so they grab him, toss him on the ground. They didn’t Tase him. They didn’t use batons. They didn’t kick him in the face. They definitely put him on the ground and were trying to get handcuffs on him while he’s squirming around. And he’s resisting arrest because he’s trying to tell the police that it’s not him,” Jimenez said in a statement.

The police department refuses to accept any responsibility in the matter, in fact, Chief Jimenez has blamed the assault on the suspect, and said that the officers will not be disciplined because they “made an honest mistake.”

“I apologize for the mistaken identity, I am sorry he got put into that situation because of the suspect,” Jimenez Said.

However, Swink wants the officers to lose their jobs for such indiscriminate use of force.

“I don’t know what they were thinking. I’m just shocked that all of this happened,” Swink said.

According to the St. Ann Police Department, the actual suspect who was being chased was 32-year-old Anton Simmons, who was later arrested after crashing his car again a few miles down the road.

This type of unaccountable assault on innocence is sadly not isolated. Last year, three SAPD officers severely brutalized an innocent man as he tried to photograph his wife’s new location for her medical practice.

When KENS 5 news interviewed then SAPD police chief William McManus, he stated that “Clearly it was a case of mistaken identity. From the report that I’ve read, from the photo that I saw and from your description, I’ve not seen anything at this point that would indicate to me that anything out of order happened.”

The chief of police thinks that an innocent man being beaten to the point of hospitalization by incompetent police officers mistaking him for another man, and causing $15,000 in medical bills, indicates that nothing “out of order happened.”

John Vibes is an author, researcher and investigative journalist who takes a special interest in the counter culture and the drug war. In addition to his writing and activist work he is also the owner of a successful music promotion company. In 2013, he became one of the organizers of the Free Your Mind Conference, which features top caliber speakers and whistle-blowers from all over the world. You can contact him and stay connected to his work at his Facebook page. You can find his 65 chapter Book entitled “Alchemy of the Timeless Renaissance” at bookpatch.com.
 
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-assault-handcuff-wrong-man-in-good-faith/

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« Reply #1897 on: January 22, 2015, 09:40:46 AM »
Ga. Supreme Court to consider police dog immunity

Atlanta, Ga. -- The Georgia Supreme Court will decide if someone bitten by a police dog is allowed to sue for damages.

A DeKalb County police officer argues she cannot be held liable for injuries suffered by a neighbor's son when her police dog bit him because she is protected by official immunity.


http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/2015/01/20/ga-supreme-court-to-consider-police-dog-immunity/22043565/

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« Reply #1898 on: January 22, 2015, 10:35:25 AM »
Ga. Supreme Court to consider police dog immunity

Atlanta, Ga. -- The Georgia Supreme Court will decide if someone bitten by a police dog is allowed to sue for damages.

A DeKalb County police officer argues she cannot be held liable for injuries suffered by a neighbor's son when her police dog bit him because she is protected by official immunity.


http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/2015/01/20/ga-supreme-court-to-consider-police-dog-immunity/22043565/

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« Reply #1899 on: January 23, 2015, 10:30:40 PM »
Police Response to Bill Restricting No-Knock Raids: You Can’t Have Both Freedom & Security

Atlanta, GA — A Georgia lawmaker has proposed a bill, aptly named Baby Bou’s law, that would restrict the issuance of no-knock raids.

The bill’s namesake, Baby Bounekahm “Bou Bou” Phonesavanh, suffered third-degree burns to his chest and face after sheriff’s deputies in Habersham County raided a house in the middle of the night in May of 2014. They were looking for a person who did not live there, over a $50 drug sale, and threw a flashbang grenade into the infant’s crib.

According to the bill’s sponsor, State Sen. Vincent Fort, there was also a stunning new revelation in the case of 19-month-old Bou-Bou, involving a lie.

“We know that there’s evidence someone lied, one officer lied to the magistrate in offering information for the no knock warrant,” said Fort.

Apparently Georgia has never had a specified law on the books designed to punish officers and agencies that lie to a judge to obtain a no-knock warrant.

The bill has bipartisan support from many of Georgia’s lawmakers, who are also looking to ban no-knock raids between the hours of 10 pm and 6 am.

Predictably, this bill has the police unions up in arms.

Retired drug unit officer, turned union rep for the International Brotherhood of Police Officers, Carrie Mills, is quite outspoken about the union’s opposition to the bill.

“If we knock and announce, all evidence is going to be destroyed,” Mills said.

Mills went on to threaten lawmakers by telling them they should be careful what they ask for. She then made a disgusting statement which goes against every principle of a free society, by claiming that if you want security, you can’t have privacy.

“You have to draw the line between your right as a citizen to privacy and a community’s right to live in a crime-free environment. You can’t have them both,” said Mills.

Apparently Mills has never heard the popular phrase stating that those who would sacrifice freedom for security, deserve neither freedom nor security.

The IBPO is also ignoring the tragic cases from just last year, of no-knock raids gone awry. While the case of Baby Bou has gotten international attention, the less popular death of David Hooks is equally troubling.

Acting on a bogus tip about methamphetamine from a car thief who stole Hooks’ Lincoln Aviator SUV, the Laurens County Sheriff’s office obtained a search warrant for Hooks’ residence. An hour after the judge signed the warrant police wrongfully raided Hooks’ house and took the life of this innocent grandfather.

Despite a search lasting 44 hours, police found not one single item of contraband.

If you are the IBPO, the no-knock raid tactics that led to these tragedies are fine and dandy. After all, if we aren’t locking up hundreds of thousands of people for victimless crimes, America wouldn’t be able to maintain its infamous title of Prison Capital of the World.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-response-bill-restricting-no-knock-raids-freedom-security/