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« Reply #3900 on: June 14, 2018, 11:10:29 AM »
This is why "punishment" such as paid vacation or desk duty is not enough for these violent criminals. They need to be made an example of or ideally, locked up for life so that they won't harm anyone again.

Video of Cops Beating Man Was So Bad, They Were All Fired—But a Corrupt System Just Rehired Them

Agawam, MA — Three police officers so horrifically beat a man in custody, all of them — a sergeant and two veteran patrolmen — were fired. Now, however, thanks to a corrupt system that fails to hold officers accountable, Mayor William P. Sapelli is rehiring them in spite of the gruesome video showing the abuse.

“You bring them back. It’s that simple,” he said Tuesday, noting that one of the officers, John P. Moccio, has not returned to work. His case is still before the state Civil Service Commission, according to the mayor, who made resolving the issue a priority after taking office in January, according to Masslive.com.

Two of the cops seen horrifically beating the man on video are back on the job and despite being demoted, one officer had his rank of sergeant reinstated.

As TFTP reported at the time, then-Mayor Richard A. Cohen announced the termination of officers, John P. Moccio, Officer Edward B. Connor and Sgt. Anthony Grasso for their roles in the arrest and subsequent beat down of 27-year-old David Desjardins at Six Flags New England on June 19, 2016.

Cohen also forwarded the findings of an internal investigation to the Hampden District Attorney Anthony D. Gulluni, who declined to prosecute. However, the beating was so horrific that the FBI launched their own use of force investigation. After more than a year of “investigating,” the FBI concluded the officers acted appropriately when they beat the unarmed and half-naked man.

As TFTP previously reported, that day, Desjardins became too inebriated at a bar in the Six Flags New England amusement park; but when a bartender cut him off, he acted belligerently and began arguing. Park security called the police, MassLive reported at the time, who confronted Desjardins and had to use pepper spray several times before they were able to make the arrest.

Agawam Police Officers Moccio and Connor, and Grasso, then dealt with Desjardins during the booking process, but claimed in reports the man was drunk and unruly — thus their use of force had been justified. Desjardins was charged with disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and assault and battery on a police officer.

“Under the policies and procedures, the use of the force was authorized,” said Attorney John Connor, who represented the officers, reported 22News, “They may disagree with that, but that doesn’t mean that these officer didn’t act in accordance with the policies and their training.”

However, video shows Desjardins stripped down to his underwear and seemingly — despite the lack of audio recording — only vaguely disruptive and certainly not deserving of the beating he then receives.

As footage begins, the man sits on a bench in the station and appears to receive a stern talking-to by one officer. Suddenly the officer gestures to another and the pair, along with two others, violently grab Desjardins and force him into a holding cell, containing the typical metal toilet and a concrete slab without any padding.

Desjardins weakly attempts to wriggle free from one officer’s grip and is then roughly forced down onto the concrete slab with three of the four officers holding him down — as one of them uses a baton to beat his back. When that seems not to satisfy the officer, he takes a step back and — as the other two lie on top of the drunken man, holding him down — begins pummeling Desjardins’ kneecaps and ankles with the baton.

Video shows the cops clearly have control of the situation and resistance from Desjardins, if any, is both minimal and likely in self-defense.

As the two officers grip the man’s wrists and head, the third then proceeds to smash the baton against Desjardins’ shins — worse, footage seems to show the tip of the baton being used to jab him in the abdomen or groin.

In obvious pain from this, Desjardins smacks his foot against the concrete slab.

When the officers seem to relent to leave the cell, it becomes apparent one had been using two hands to press the man’s face onto the slab — but even as they move to leave, and he slowly sits up, one officer still casually hits him with the baton.

As Desjardins stands, the verbal altercation continues — but one of the officers then shoves him into the corner of the slab, smashing his head on the concrete and cinder block wall. One officer puts his hands on Desjardins face as if to poke him in the eye or smother him — and though it looks like the beating will begin again, officers cuff his wrists and ankles.

Fully two minutes elapse from the time Moccio, Connor, and Grasso forced Desjardins into the cell until they finally stopped the brutal assault.

Police Chief Eric Gillis was ridiculed for his decision after he fired the officers — but he had no doubt the firings were justified.

“When I saw the video I was shocked by it,” he told MassLive. “I knew that it was very serious and as the investigation proceeded it became more and more clear to me how serious it really was.

“As chief of police it’s my job to make sure that our officers conduct themselves appropriately at all times and deal with the people we come into contact with appropriately at all times.”

Apparently, this has all changed now, and the officers have been rehired.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/fired-cops-rehired-beating-halfnaked-man/


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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3901 on: June 14, 2018, 11:54:25 AM »
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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3902 on: June 14, 2018, 12:59:44 PM »
This is why "punishment" such as paid vacation or desk duty is not enough for these violent criminals. They need to be made an example of or ideally, locked up for life so that they won't harm anyone again.

Video of Cops Beating Man Was So Bad, They Were All Fired—But a Corrupt System Just Rehired Them

Agawam, MA — Three police officers so horrifically beat a man in custody, all of them — a sergeant and two veteran patrolmen — were fired. Now, however, thanks to a corrupt system that fails to hold officers accountable, Mayor William P. Sapelli is rehiring them in spite of the gruesome video showing the abuse.

“You bring them back. It’s that simple,” he said Tuesday, noting that one of the officers, John P. Moccio, has not returned to work. His case is still before the state Civil Service Commission, according to the mayor, who made resolving the issue a priority after taking office in January, according to Masslive.com.

Two of the cops seen horrifically beating the man on video are back on the job and despite being demoted, one officer had his rank of sergeant reinstated.

As TFTP reported at the time, then-Mayor Richard A. Cohen announced the termination of officers, John P. Moccio, Officer Edward B. Connor and Sgt. Anthony Grasso for their roles in the arrest and subsequent beat down of 27-year-old David Desjardins at Six Flags New England on June 19, 2016.

Cohen also forwarded the findings of an internal investigation to the Hampden District Attorney Anthony D. Gulluni, who declined to prosecute. However, the beating was so horrific that the FBI launched their own use of force investigation. After more than a year of “investigating,” the FBI concluded the officers acted appropriately when they beat the unarmed and half-naked man.

As TFTP previously reported, that day, Desjardins became too inebriated at a bar in the Six Flags New England amusement park; but when a bartender cut him off, he acted belligerently and began arguing. Park security called the police, MassLive reported at the time, who confronted Desjardins and had to use pepper spray several times before they were able to make the arrest.

Agawam Police Officers Moccio and Connor, and Grasso, then dealt with Desjardins during the booking process, but claimed in reports the man was drunk and unruly — thus their use of force had been justified. Desjardins was charged with disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and assault and battery on a police officer.

“Under the policies and procedures, the use of the force was authorized,” said Attorney John Connor, who represented the officers, reported 22News, “They may disagree with that, but that doesn’t mean that these officer didn’t act in accordance with the policies and their training.”

However, video shows Desjardins stripped down to his underwear and seemingly — despite the lack of audio recording — only vaguely disruptive and certainly not deserving of the beating he then receives.

As footage begins, the man sits on a bench in the station and appears to receive a stern talking-to by one officer. Suddenly the officer gestures to another and the pair, along with two others, violently grab Desjardins and force him into a holding cell, containing the typical metal toilet and a concrete slab without any padding.

Desjardins weakly attempts to wriggle free from one officer’s grip and is then roughly forced down onto the concrete slab with three of the four officers holding him down — as one of them uses a baton to beat his back. When that seems not to satisfy the officer, he takes a step back and — as the other two lie on top of the drunken man, holding him down — begins pummeling Desjardins’ kneecaps and ankles with the baton.

Video shows the cops clearly have control of the situation and resistance from Desjardins, if any, is both minimal and likely in self-defense.

As the two officers grip the man’s wrists and head, the third then proceeds to smash the baton against Desjardins’ shins — worse, footage seems to show the tip of the baton being used to jab him in the abdomen or groin.

In obvious pain from this, Desjardins smacks his foot against the concrete slab.

When the officers seem to relent to leave the cell, it becomes apparent one had been using two hands to press the man’s face onto the slab — but even as they move to leave, and he slowly sits up, one officer still casually hits him with the baton.

As Desjardins stands, the verbal altercation continues — but one of the officers then shoves him into the corner of the slab, smashing his head on the concrete and cinder block wall. One officer puts his hands on Desjardins face as if to poke him in the eye or smother him — and though it looks like the beating will begin again, officers cuff his wrists and ankles.

Fully two minutes elapse from the time Moccio, Connor, and Grasso forced Desjardins into the cell until they finally stopped the brutal assault.

Police Chief Eric Gillis was ridiculed for his decision after he fired the officers — but he had no doubt the firings were justified.

“When I saw the video I was shocked by it,” he told MassLive. “I knew that it was very serious and as the investigation proceeded it became more and more clear to me how serious it really was.

“As chief of police it’s my job to make sure that our officers conduct themselves appropriately at all times and deal with the people we come into contact with appropriately at all times.”

Apparently, this has all changed now, and the officers have been rehired.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/fired-cops-rehired-beating-halfnaked-man/





Video of Cops Beating Man Was So Bad, They Were All Fired—But a Corrupt System Just Rehired Them

Seriously does any right minded person believe this is acceptable & the right thing to do.

Agnostic- even you can’t possibly try to defend that ridiculous nonsense or can you ??

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3903 on: June 15, 2018, 05:07:23 AM »
IG REPORT: FBI AGENTS REGULARLY RECEIVED FREE HANDOUTS FROM JOURNALISTS
Daily Caller ^ | 6/14/2018 | Joe Simonson
Posted on 6/14/2018, 4:46:12 PM by bitt

The Department of Justice inspector general identified a number of instances where FBI employees regularly spoke with members of the media and received a number of free perks from journalists including meals and tickets to various events.

On page XII in the report, the IG says the department “identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters.”

The IG expressed “profound concerns about the volume and extent of unauthorized media contacts by FBI personnel that we have uncovered our review.”

The contact between FBI agents and the media extended to receiving “improperly receiving benefits from reporters, including tickets to sporting events, golfing outings, drinks and meals, and admittance to nonpublic social events.”

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3904 on: June 15, 2018, 11:28:43 AM »
Out of control gangs. When are these animals going to be locked up? This is the same gang that executed Daniel Shaver. (read more: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=329944.msg8440709#msg8440709)

Notice how they all participate in the violent attack (even the limp bald guy) and how violent the black cop is. Where were all those "good apples" we keep hearing about to arrest these animals on the spot?

Graphic Video Shows Cops Savagely Beat Unarmed Man, Keep Hitting Him After He’s Knocked Out

Mesa, AZ — A shocking video has surfaced out of Mesa, Arizona this week showing a half-dozen cops jump an unarmed and non-violent man—punching him in the head until he falls unconscious to the floor. Despite several cops participating in the beating, not one word of it was mentioned in a report and the chief claims he had no idea it even happened.

The video is of an incident from May 23, in which police were responding to a call at an apartment complex. The Mesa Police department says they received a call from a woman stating that 20-year-old Erick Reyes was trying to get into the apartment of his ex-girlfriend.

When police arrived on the scene, Reyes and another man, 33-year-old Robert Johnson were leaving the complex. When police told Reyes to sit down on the ground, he reportedly complied with their order. Johnson was given the same order as he walked to the elevator.

Instead of sitting on the ground, Johnson, likely knowing he had done nothing wrong, simply sat against the wall. Apparently, this was not enough to appease the officers who then swarmed the unarmed and seemingly innocent man.

Cops are then seen on video brutally punching the non-violent man in the face and kneeing him in the stomach. Even after he’s knocked unconscious, the massive cop in front of him pummels his face as he falls to the ground.

In a statement this week, Mesa police chief Ramon Batista claimed he had no idea that this video existed nor did he know his officers savagely beat a man for no reason. Once it was publicly released, four of the officers involved in the incident were placed on administrative leave.



https://thefreethoughtproject.com/mesa-police-beat-unarmed-nonviolent-man/

As usual, this particularly violent criminal gang made up the charges in an attempt to justify the horrific attack.

Charges dropped against Robert Johnson, man beaten by Mesa police

A Mesa judge has dropped all charges against Robert Johnson, the 35-year-old Mesa man whose case received national attention after video surfaced of police officers beating him during an incident in May.

Mesa city prosecutor John Belatti on June 13 filed the motion to dismiss the charges of disorderly conduct and hindering police without prejudice, meaning the case against Johnson can be refiled in court.

The motion said the charges should be dropped "in the interest of justice." Municipal Judge Elizabeth P. Arriola granted it Thursday.

"We are pleased to hear the false and drummed up charges against my client Mr. Johnson have been dropped," said Benjamin Taylor, a lawyer for Johnson.

The motion was filed the same day The Arizona Republic reported on Mesa police body-cam videos from the January arrest of an unarmed man that show an officer repeatedly punching him and another police officer later mocking him as he lies on a hospital floor in a pool of blood.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa-breaking/2018/06/14/mesa-judge-drops-charges-against-man-brutally-beaten-mesa-police/702453002/

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3905 on: June 15, 2018, 11:29:07 AM »


Video of Cops Beating Man Was So Bad, They Were All Fired—But a Corrupt System Just Rehired Them

Seriously does any right minded person believe this is acceptable & the right thing to do.

Agnostic- even you can’t possibly try to defend that ridiculous nonsense or can you ??

Don't know about the "even you"... makes me feel like I make a habit of wrongly supporting officers who are doing abusive things. But no, even I can't defend that.

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3906 on: June 15, 2018, 11:29:39 AM »
IG REPORT: FBI AGENTS REGULARLY RECEIVED FREE HANDOUTS FROM JOURNALISTS
Daily Caller ^ | 6/14/2018 | Joe Simonson
Posted on 6/14/2018, 4:46:12 PM by bitt

The Department of Justice inspector general identified a number of instances where FBI employees regularly spoke with members of the media and received a number of free perks from journalists including meals and tickets to various events.

On page XII in the report, the IG says the department “identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters.”

The IG expressed “profound concerns about the volume and extent of unauthorized media contacts by FBI personnel that we have uncovered our review.”

The contact between FBI agents and the media extended to receiving “improperly receiving benefits from reporters, including tickets to sporting events, golfing outings, drinks and meals, and admittance to nonpublic social events.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3907 on: June 15, 2018, 11:45:34 AM »
Don't forget that according to Pence, "police officers are the best of us". And we're talking about a 21 year "veteran" cop.

High Level Seattle Cop Found Guilty of Repeatedly Raping His Own Children

Seattle, WA — In case after horrifying case, those in positions of power are exposed for their crimes, showing how these positions often attract society’s worse. One recent example of this is a police sergeant in Seattle being found guilty on Wednesday for the repeated rape and molestation of his own daughters.

Daniel Amador, 46, had been free on bail as the trial progressed over the last several months. However, he was detained on Wednesday after a jury found him guilty of first-degree child molestation, second-degree child rape, third-degree child rape and first-degree incest.

According to the court documents, this vile top cop routinely raped his older daughter, known in court papers as A.B., about five times a week and also molested his younger daughter, C.A.

The abuse took place for more than a decade and the little girls were unable to tell anyone as their father was a cop. Both of the victims, now ages 24 and 19, described their horrifying childhood in which A.B. was Amador’s favorite one to rape while C.A. was regularly belittled.

According to Seattle Pi, A.B. testified to undergoing regular “pinnings,” which involved Amador holding her down in his bed and talking with her extensively while either touching private body parts or raping her.

“I wasn’t allowed to have secrets from him,” A.B. testified June 5.

According to A.B. the rapes began when she was just 9 years old and persisted even after she had gone away to college.

According to C.A., she testified that the “pinnings” were more of a punishment for her. This vile individual would lie on top of her and grope her while they were sometimes partially or fully naked.

On multiple occasions, Amador would force C.A. to leave the room, then he would move the dresser in front of the door to his bedroom while A.B. was locked inside. He would abuse A.B. in his bedroom—for hours.

Showing the power police have to sweep things under the rug, in 2013, a cousin of the girls called CPS to report C.A. because she began cutting herself around the age of 12 as a result of the “pinnings” and years of abuse.

However, Amador was able to escape any accountability and told his family that if anyone found out about him raping them, they could lose everything they had if he was fired from being a cop.


A.B. hadn’t told anyone about being raped as Amador had instilled so much fear in his own children that they were terrified of what might happen if anyone found out. During this time, Amador was being promoted within the department and used this to threaten his children even more.

“If I helped keep CPS away, it would help keep us together,” A.B. said of that time, and keep them away they did. As Amador was an upstanding member of the Seattle Police Department, the claims against him were likely written off as they “must have been fabricated by some anti-police nut job.”

Once she finally left the house and the control of her sadistic and horrifyingly abusive father, A.B. realized that remaining silent was not something she should continue to do. During that time, Amador had divorced the girls’ mother and remarried. Knowing that Amador’s new wife was pregnant with a baby girl, A.B. realized she had to say something to save her half-sister from a lifetime of abuse.

In March of 2016, A.B. and C.A. came forward with their accusations. In a wise decision, they went to a neighboring police department to do so. As TFTP has reported on numerous occasions, often times, police departments will protect their own, even if they are abusive animals like Amador.

In April of 2016, the Lake Forest Park Police Department arrested him. Likely due to his massive salary as a sergeant, Amador posted the $750,000 bail and quietly resigned from the police department after 21 years with them—likely keeping his taxpayer funded pention in the process.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/high-level-seattle-cop-found-guilty-of-repeatedly-raping-his-own-children/

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3908 on: June 15, 2018, 11:47:51 AM »
Crazy. 

Don't forget that according to Pence, "police officers are the best of us". And we're talking about a 21 year "veteran" cop.

High Level Seattle Cop Found Guilty of Repeatedly Raping His Own Children

Seattle, WA — In case after horrifying case, those in positions of power are exposed for their crimes, showing how these positions often attract society’s worse. One recent example of this is a police sergeant in Seattle being found guilty on Wednesday for the repeated rape and molestation of his own daughters.

Daniel Amador, 46, had been free on bail as the trial progressed over the last several months. However, he was detained on Wednesday after a jury found him guilty of first-degree child molestation, second-degree child rape, third-degree child rape and first-degree incest.

According to the court documents, this vile top cop routinely raped his older daughter, known in court papers as A.B., about five times a week and also molested his younger daughter, C.A.

The abuse took place for more than a decade and the little girls were unable to tell anyone as their father was a cop. Both of the victims, now ages 24 and 19, described their horrifying childhood in which A.B. was Amador’s favorite one to rape while C.A. was regularly belittled.

According to Seattle Pi, A.B. testified to undergoing regular “pinnings,” which involved Amador holding her down in his bed and talking with her extensively while either touching private body parts or raping her.

“I wasn’t allowed to have secrets from him,” A.B. testified June 5.

According to A.B. the rapes began when she was just 9 years old and persisted even after she had gone away to college.

According to C.A., she testified that the “pinnings” were more of a punishment for her. This vile individual would lie on top of her and grope her while they were sometimes partially or fully naked.

On multiple occasions, Amador would force C.A. to leave the room, then he would move the dresser in front of the door to his bedroom while A.B. was locked inside. He would abuse A.B. in his bedroom—for hours.

Showing the power police have to sweep things under the rug, in 2013, a cousin of the girls called CPS to report C.A. because she began cutting herself around the age of 12 as a result of the “pinnings” and years of abuse.

However, Amador was able to escape any accountability and told his family that if anyone found out about him raping them, they could lose everything they had if he was fired from being a cop.


A.B. hadn’t told anyone about being raped as Amador had instilled so much fear in his own children that they were terrified of what might happen if anyone found out. During this time, Amador was being promoted within the department and used this to threaten his children even more.

“If I helped keep CPS away, it would help keep us together,” A.B. said of that time, and keep them away they did. As Amador was an upstanding member of the Seattle Police Department, the claims against him were likely written off as they “must have been fabricated by some anti-police nut job.”

Once she finally left the house and the control of her sadistic and horrifyingly abusive father, A.B. realized that remaining silent was not something she should continue to do. During that time, Amador had divorced the girls’ mother and remarried. Knowing that Amador’s new wife was pregnant with a baby girl, A.B. realized she had to say something to save her half-sister from a lifetime of abuse.

In March of 2016, A.B. and C.A. came forward with their accusations. In a wise decision, they went to a neighboring police department to do so. As TFTP has reported on numerous occasions, often times, police departments will protect their own, even if they are abusive animals like Amador.

In April of 2016, the Lake Forest Park Police Department arrested him. Likely due to his massive salary as a sergeant, Amador posted the $750,000 bail and quietly resigned from the police department after 21 years with them—likely keeping his taxpayer funded pention in the process.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/high-level-seattle-cop-found-guilty-of-repeatedly-raping-his-own-children/

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3909 on: June 17, 2018, 11:45:48 AM »
Some officers turned off body cameras after Las Vegas shooting

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In three videos, a female officer is visible walking down the staging rows. In the fourth she can only be heard.

“Cameras are off? Cameras off? Cameras are off?” she says.

An officer repeats “Camera is off,” and each video ends.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/some-officers-turned-off-body-cameras-after-las-vegas-shooting/

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« Reply #3910 on: June 17, 2018, 01:28:08 PM »
Don't know about the "even you"... makes me feel like I make a habit of wrongly supporting officers who are doing abusive things. But no, even I can't defend that.

Maybe The Even You was a bit harsh - Maybe not wrongly supporting them
More like rose tinted glasses & generally accepting that what the cops say is the truth.
Which quite often now we’re finding out is Not the case.

Only let’s be honest you do tend to side with the cops a good proportion of the time

Look at the story above - that horrible waste of breath needs killing only very slowly.
Raping his own daughters FFS.

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« Reply #3911 on: June 17, 2018, 08:59:10 PM »
Maybe The Even You was a bit harsh - Maybe not wrongly supporting them
More like rose tinted glasses & generally accepting that what the cops say is the truth.
Which quite often now we’re finding out is Not the case.

Only let’s be honest you do tend to side with the cops a good proportion of the time

Look at the story above - that horrible waste of breath needs killing only very slowly.
Raping his own daughters FFS.

There are times where I can look at a video of a police incident alongside a civilian and come to a different conclusion.  Usually this is based on my past experience of possibly being in a similar situation and having insight that the civilian might not have. But I certainly acknowledge there is could possibility be that it is a bias that isn't fair. I don't think it is but I am certainly open to discussing any of those with an open mind.

I read the above article, then went to a neutral website and read it again. Ultimately the bottom line is yes, the former cop is a waste of breath and needs killing slowly. I'd be happy to hold him down

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #3912 on: June 17, 2018, 10:17:27 PM »
There are times where I can look at a video of a police incident alongside a civilian and come to a different conclusion.  Usually this is based on my past experience of possibly being in a similar situation and having insight that the civilian might not have. But I certainly acknowledge there is could possibility be that it is a bias that isn't fair. I don't think it is but I am certainly open to discussing any of those with an open mind.

I read the above article, then went to a neutral website and read it again. Ultimately the bottom line is yes, the former cop is a waste of breath and needs killing slowly. I'd be happy to hold him down


Very good that’s well said
I respect your honesty in assessing yourself.

Likelihood is we all can have bias or the rose tinted glasses effect
I believe knowing & be aware of it helps us to avoid or lessen it happening.

I’m glad we agree on the punishment for that cop.

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« Reply #3913 on: June 17, 2018, 10:26:13 PM »

Very good that’s well said
I respect your honesty in assessing yourself.

Likelihood is we all can have bias or the rose tinted glasses effect
I believe knowing & be aware of it helps us to avoid or lessen it happening.

I’m glad we agree on the punishment for that cop.


Agree 100%

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« Reply #3914 on: June 18, 2018, 01:06:15 PM »
So the cops themselves describe it as a "date rape drug" but seemingly only when others use it. Ketamine is supposed to have the effect of erasing or alter memory. Is there a  devious purpose behind this, i.e. the cops don't want the victim to remember something they did such as abuse or brutality? Then there is the issue of who the fuck are the cops to "suggest" or "urge" or "demand" that specific drugs,substances or procedures are used on people?

At urging of Minneapolis police, Hennepin EMS workers subdued dozens with a powerful sedative.

EMS workers used date rape drug ketamine, stopping some suspects' hearts or breathing.

Minneapolis police officers have repeatedly requested over the past three years that Hennepin County medical responders sedate people using the powerful tranquilizer ketamine, at times over the protests of those being drugged, and in some cases when no apparent crime was committed, a city report shows.

On multiple occasions, in the presence of police, Hennepin Healthcare EMS workers injected suspects of crimes and others who already appeared to be restrained, according to the report, and the ketamine caused heart or breathing failure, requiring them to be medically revived. Several people given ketamine had to be intubated.

These are among the findings of an investigation conducted by the Office of Police Conduct Review, a division of the city’s Department of Civil Rights. The draft report has been circulated narrowly within City Hall but not disseminated to the public. The Star Tribune has obtained a copy.

http://www.startribune.com/at-urging-of-police-hennepin-emts-subdued-dozens-with-powerful-sedative/485607381/

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« Reply #3915 on: June 18, 2018, 01:44:17 PM »
Another "brave hero" with a badge...

Deputy accused of sexually assaulting girl, 4, threatening to have mother deported if she spoke up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/18/deputy-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-girl-4-threatening-to-have-mother-deported-if-she-spoke-up/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.86a9db3020a5

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« Reply #3916 on: June 18, 2018, 02:20:27 PM »
So the cops themselves describe it as a "date rape drug" but seemingly only when others use it. Ketamine is supposed to have the effect of erasing or alter memory. Is there a  devious purpose behind this, i.e. the cops don't want the victim to remember something they did such as abuse or brutality? Then there is the issue of who the fuck are the cops to "suggest" or "urge" or "demand" that specific drugs,substances or procedures are used on people?

At urging of Minneapolis police, Hennepin EMS workers subdued dozens with a powerful sedative.

EMS workers used date rape drug ketamine, stopping some suspects' hearts or breathing.

Minneapolis police officers have repeatedly requested over the past three years that Hennepin County medical responders sedate people using the powerful tranquilizer ketamine, at times over the protests of those being drugged, and in some cases when no apparent crime was committed, a city report shows.

On multiple occasions, in the presence of police, Hennepin Healthcare EMS workers injected suspects of crimes and others who already appeared to be restrained, according to the report, and the ketamine caused heart or breathing failure, requiring them to be medically revived. Several people given ketamine had to be intubated.

These are among the findings of an investigation conducted by the Office of Police Conduct Review, a division of the city’s Department of Civil Rights. The draft report has been circulated narrowly within City Hall but not disseminated to the public. The Star Tribune has obtained a copy.

http://www.startribune.com/at-urging-of-police-hennepin-emts-subdued-dozens-with-powerful-sedative/485607381/


WTF !!!
Wonder if this
1, Legal
2, common practice amongst police


I will say though I’ve had the miss fortune of having to deal with a crazed man
High on Weed / Cocaine / PCP - He was virtually unstoppable He made a mess of
Me & Me Him if I’d not chocked him out ( it was that or take his knees out)
& kept him out each time he started coming Round
I have no doubt he’d of killed me.

Wish somebody would of pinned him full of tranquilliser!!!

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« Reply #3917 on: June 18, 2018, 03:34:48 PM »
So this criminal, while being "off duty" but on uniform and openly carrying a firearm, gets in his patrol car and goes to a store and threatens to kill someone and his mother, claiming "I know where you guys live". Such terroristic threats would've elicited a strong response had it been a normal civilian, let alone if these threats were directed at a cop. But when the violent offender is a cop, it's no big deal and brushed off as minor or a "mistake" or justa "bad decision". Even the statements he gave to his coworkers had inconsistencies... As expected, he was harshly "disciplined" with a four week leave. Let's see the next time an armed person terrorizes and threatens to kill others if they will just get similar treatment. "Biased" links below:

PBSO deputy suspended after threatening to shoot his daughter’s boyfriend

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (CBS12) — A sheriff’s deputy suspended - after an internal affairs investigation concluded he threatened to shoot his daughter’s boyfriend.



http://cbs12.com/news/local/pbso-deputy-suspended-after-threatening-to-shoot-his-daughters-boyfriend

https://www.scribd.com/document/381816202/PBSO-Deputy-Suspended




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« Reply #3918 on: June 18, 2018, 08:17:04 PM »

WTF !!!
Wonder if this
1, Legal
2, common practice amongst police


I will say though I’ve had the miss fortune of having to deal with a crazed man
High on Weed / Cocaine / PCP - He was virtually unstoppable He made a mess of
Me & Me Him if I’d not chocked him out ( it was that or take his knees out)
& kept him out each time he started coming Round
I have no doubt he’d of killed me.

Wish somebody would of pinned him full of tranquilliser!!!

http://www.fox9.com/news/hennepin-healthcare-minneapolis-police-respond-to-draft-report-on-ketamine-use-on-subjects

Seems like the initial draft is being questioned by both the medical and police officials. We'll have to see what comes out

I may have been on scene 1 time over a few decades of policing when a person was sedated by medical staff. Doesn't mean it probably wouldn't have been a good idea. People have died from over exhausting themselves when high on PCP or other drugs and that may have been a good option if you could hold them steady long enough. But the report says the number of times jumped from 3 the previous year to 60 the next which to me indicates a red flag.

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« Reply #3919 on: June 18, 2018, 11:08:11 PM »
http://www.fox9.com/news/hennepin-healthcare-minneapolis-police-respond-to-draft-report-on-ketamine-use-on-subjects

Seems like the initial draft is being questioned by both the medical and police officials. We'll have to see what comes out

I may have been on scene 1 time over a few decades of policing when a person was sedated by medical staff. Doesn't mean it probably wouldn't have been a good idea. People have died from over exhausting themselves when high on PCP or other drugs and that may have been a good option if you could hold them steady long enough. But the report says the number of times jumped from 3 the previous year to 60 the next which to me indicates a red flag.

Good it’s being questioned - Going from 3 to 60 !!  ::)
More than a little suspect.

I’d of liked him to have died of over exhaustion.
And the temptation to completely asphyxiate him was Very Tempting.
If but for cctv & witness’s.

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« Reply #3920 on: June 20, 2018, 09:24:21 AM »
Lowly plebs and serfs get fines, prison sentences, violent beatings or even get executed. The government and its goons get immunity.

U.S. judge dismisses Charleston shooting lawsuits, criticizes FBI

(Reuters) - A federal judge has dismissed 16 lawsuits filed by survivors of a 2015 mass shooting at a South Carolina church who sued the government over the failure of an FBI-run background check system to prevent the purchase of the murder weapon.

In his ruling released late Monday, Gergel said that the government had immunity from being sued for its policies, “even really bad policy choices.”

The government’s argument in the case that it had to deny background check employees access to N-DEx, as it was restricted to law enforcement agencies, was “simple nonsense,” Gergel wrote.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-south-carolina-shooting-roof/u-s-judge-dismisses-charleston-shooting-lawsuits-criticizes-fbi-idUSKBN1JG01O

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« Reply #3922 on: June 21, 2018, 01:26:29 PM »
“Have a seat in my car. We’ll make shit up as we go.”

This mentality and also the fact that these criminals can indeed "make shit up as they go" to kidnap and abuse people is why accountability and harsh punishment are necessary for these scumbags. And of course the crime syndicate cop union is appealing the firing. This is why paid or unpaid vacation or firing is not enough, since with union machinations/extortion he could even get his job back or work in another PD. These criminals need to spend decades in prison or be executed to deter others from committing these crimes and prevent recidivism.

Lorain police officer fired after stopping and detaining daughter and her boyfriend

LORAIN – A Lorain police officer, John Kovach Jr, was fired after an internal investigation found he abused his authority by conducting a traffic stop on his daughter’s boyfriend without cause and temporarily detained his daughter and her boyfriend in the back of his squad car.

He tells the driver, his daughter’s boyfriend Makai Coleman, 18, to get out because he’s “going to jail.” Coleman asks Kovach what for and Kovach responds: “Have a seat in my car. We’ll make shit up as we go.” Coleman goes and sits in Kovach’s cruiser.

Kovach then addresses Gloria Morales, who comes out of her home nearby because her children are two of the three people in the car with Coleman. He tells Morales his daughter’s computer is inside her house and while she initially gives him permission to search the house, she later tells him to come back with a search warrant when he threatens to give her daughter a $300 ticket for not wearing her seatbelt.

http://www.chroniclet.com/Local-News/2018/06/20/Lorain-police-officer-fire-following-incident-involving-daughter.html

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« Reply #3923 on: June 22, 2018, 07:41:03 AM »
Remember this case? Of course at first the cop said the dog attacked him to justify the shooting.

DA releases body-cam video in police shooting that hurt 9-year-old Wichita girl

Sedgwick County District Attorney Marc Bennett on Thursday released body camera video that shows a police shooting that wounded a 9-year-old girl and led to a Wichita officer being fired in January.

Dexter Betts was at the girl's home in response to a 911 call on Dec. 30 when he shot twice at her dog, a 35- to 40-pound English bull terrier named Chevy. The girl was sitting behind the dog on the floor in the living room. Three other children were also in the room.

Betts' rounds missed their target. But bullet fragments that ricocheted off of the concrete floor under the carpet hit the 9-year-old's face above her eye, injuring her.

Betts defense attorney has said the dog was attacking the officer.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article213609549.html

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It's rare for body camera footage from Wichita police to be released. The Eagle sued the city after it denied requests to release body camera video that shows an Iraqi American family being detained at a Wichita bank in September and footage connected to a hit-and-run crash that allegedly involved an off-duty Wichita police officer who had been drinking.

Don't forget how some cop lovers say "cameras vindicate cops". Only in this case it took over 6 months for the footage to be released and only after many requests and lawsuits. Had it been footage that vindicated the cop it probably would have been released within 6 hours (or minutes).

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