Whats your Max dumbbell press

[kiwiol]

I disagree with my bro WillGrant and think Mes is natural, just like he claims.

gh15, calm down princess.

[Ursus]

I genuinely believe Meso is natural. Most people who criticise others are those who got less than excellent genetics.

[BILL ANVIL]

I genuinely believe Meso is natural. Most people who criticise others are those who got less than excellent genetics.

Same. I believe him gh dont have me convinced. It takes one to know one Ursus.

[Cleanest Natural]

 

what a bunch of moronic liars

[mesmorph78]

I genuinely believe Meso is natural. Most people who criticise others are those who got less than excellent genetics.

To be fair I don't see what's so hard to believe... Nearly 10 yrs of training under my belt
Hard training... Yes I do have genetics in regard to muscle shape etc but I put in the fucking work
Deads rows square chins from day one I did and still do this religiously I do t pussy around the gym the way I see a lot of guys do and this is why Ronnie Coleman was the greatest ever and still hasn't been surpassed he had out of this world genetics BUT HE OUTWORKED EVERYONE  even though he didn't have to
Nothing can substitute work in the long run

[BILL ANVIL]

To be fair I don't see what's so hard to believe... Nearly 10 yrs of training under my belt
Hard training... Yes I do have genetics in regard to muscle shape etc but I put in the fucking work
Deads rows square chins from day one I did and still do this religiously I do t pussy around the gym the way I see a lot of guys do and this is why Ronnie Coleman was the greatest ever and still hasn't been surpassed he had out of this world genetics BUT HE OUTWORKED EVERYONE  even though he didn't have to
Nothing can substitute work in the long run

Your right, intense heavy freeweights for years is the key my friend. Hard work is what made Coleman the strongest bber to ever walk the earth, drugs helped yes but he lifted heavy weights for years consistently and it paid off. Look at all the past competitors with heavy compound lifting backgrounds, Sergio Arnold Lou Dorian and others- they are still big even years later and always will be. Heavy hard work is what builds real muscle, not drugs. When are people going to understand this??
And the best part is after you put your work in for 10 years you can maintain more strength than the average juicer with just 2-3 meals a day and 3 days a week in the gym. Funny the ones accusing you are exactly the type that never put a pound of natural muscle on in their entire fucking lives. Put the work in reap the rewards in the future. Stupid impatient assholes who rely solely on drugs piss me off sometimes.

[mesmorph78]

Yes it all come down to goals.. My goal is to always be working out because I like the challenge
Other people want to quickly gain beach muscles for summer or whatever.  I'm in  no rush because I'll be working out for life.  Plus Ive always had a decent amount of muscle I don't need to take drugs
One major problem a lot of people have is they always want what they can't have not me I've lucked out in regards to muscle building genetics... And I'm content with my progress no matter how long it takes because I'm in it for life 

[chaos]

Some shirts literally add 100s of lbs to the bench press. I would like to think that drug free a HUGE man could press at least 500lbs. Deadlift is also very good though there really are people who pull more, lots of deadlift is leverage and long arms.

But also as far as I see Meso is not claiming anywhere near these numbers. Depends how good his shirtrs and equitmnet are I guess as well as his natural base/strength

I've seen him hit 475 or so on bench, 600+ on squat and 600+ on deads.

A perfect example is ygwhateverbodybuilder, has a training thread on the training board were he has claimed to do bent over barbell rows with 405# at a BW of 210#......completely natural of course.

You're not exactly a small guy yourself there Goudy, how far away from 500 are you?

[Ursus]

Aout 100lbs away from a 500lb bench. Will likely never hit it if I am honest. Maybe say after 15 years more training and injury free say I came close. Even with shorter stumpier arms and a big barrel chest i would in all liklihood never get close to 550 even at 300lbs

[adrain]

Aout 100lbs away from a 500lb bench. Will likely never hit it if I am honest. Maybe say after 15 years more training and injury free say I came close. Even with shorter stumpier arms and a big barrel chest i would in all liklihood never get close to 550 even at 300lbs

since you dont believe you will hit 500lbs what number do you have as you final goal a max you would be happy with?

[Per Se]

I've seen him hit 475 or so on bench, 600+ on squat and 600+ on deads.

A perfect example is ygwhateverbodybuilder, has a training thread on the training board were he has claimed to do bent over barbell rows with 405# at a BW of 210#......completely natural of course.

You're not exactly a small guy yourself there Goudy, how far away from 500 are you?

You seem to be the guy who always calls ppl out.  But i don't see what's so hard to believe about barbell rowing  nearly twice your bodyweight?
I reckon I could do it, and I'm not even a 'strength guy'

[mesmorph78]

since you dont believe you will hit 500lbs what number do you have as you final goal a max you would be happy with?

I know you're talking to Irene but at some point in my life I'd like to hit 500 I'm about 60 or 70lbs off so I got a faaaar way to go

[Ursus]

since you dont believe you will hit 500lbs what number do you have as you final goal a max you would be happy with?

I dont know I cant see myself getting much heavier and I am not built for strength too small joints etc. WHo knows maybe 500 will be my final target. I would love to hit it. I am 25 now and sitting at 400. 5-10 lbs a year for next 15 years I guess is achieveable.

I remember a time when I couldnot wait to hit 3 plates. Now 3 plates is a warm up for me. I guiess I should just play it by ear and see and continue having fun with it all!

[cswol]

200 LB DUMBELLS FLAT BENCH

[War-Horse]

12 years natural   Before touching hormones - did do various prohormones like andro,norandro, 1ad etc then were banned here.

Good job on clean training.  Are you satisfied with your size when the gear is out of your system? That is your base genetic and true size. It could be better tho and more long lasting if you got off the rollercoaster of drugs.

[Devon97]

never heard abotu generation nothingness? they run out of dumbells,,,rememebr their work out is 5 sets so you run out of dumbells on the 6sth set,,they cant thiknk of mayyyyyyyybe go to the hammer put 5 plates each side and try to move it...nope,,generation nothingess want dumbell up to 300lb so make sure there is lots of knocking noise going around

gh15 approved

Agree with both you guys.

You won't have the problem of running out of wts on barbell movements.

[mesmorph78]

Not everyone want to do barbell movements some peoPle aren't built for them...
 

[gh15]

Yes it all come down to goals.. My goal is to always be working out because I like the challenge
Other people want to quickly gain beach muscles for summer or whatever.  I'm in  no rush because I'll be working out for life.  Plus Ive always had a decent amount of muscle I don't need to take drugs
One major problem a lot of people have is they always want what they can't have not me I've lucked out in regards to muscle building genetics... And I'm content with my progress no matter how long it takes because I'm in it for life 

you are  A LIAR,,NOT ONLY THAT BUT ATTENTION SEEKING LIAR,,you are not lucked in any muscle buildign aspects,,your physiqe is AVERAGE,K,same as ursus physiqe is average,,i said here plenty of time before right now i can take 100 fellas on the spot that weight 185-195lb that have CONDITIONED SIZE on that and wipe the floor with you ,,diff is they admit for the use of hormones! while you lie

why dont you show them your legs? shwo some quad,,lets see this muscle ebuilding genetics eh? you are a jamaican liar,,the reason you dont show your physiqe is because you know right now you cant pass as natural in those numbers,,before at 195lb single digit you could say good genetics lots of plantain and jerk chikan ,,now day harder to at 220 and 10%,,so now you dont put pictures up,,

i sugest you put some pictures up ,,lets see this genetics ,,show them what natural is...show them so they see themselves how full of balonie you are,,

you been on getbig board for years and still STILL lie! the sad part is you will never see money not even from fitness modeling because there are 50 fellas like you in every town in usa and england...

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[gh15]

Not everyone want to do barbell movements some peoPle aren't built for them...
 

that is correct,,some bodybuild dont even touch free barbell and their pecs look 100 times better than bodybuild who sleep under the bar ,,it is all in the genetic respond and training respond to H O R M O N E S

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[gh15]

I've seen him hit 475 or so on bench, 600+ on squat and 600+ on deads.

A perfect example is ygwhateverbodybuilder, has a training thread on the training board were he has claimed to do bent over barbell rows with 405# at a BW of 210#......completely natural of course.

You're not exactly a small guy yourself there Goudy, how far away from 500 are you?

dont even argue with them ,,i didnt take good lok at the ursus fella but i did atjamaica boy,,you are talking here about hormonized lifts ,,and hormonized size,,not a lot of size btu conditioned size which is always in every single case hormonized to some degree,,

any 200lb fella who can push 300+ lb on barberl for reps of 10 is HORMONIZED,,if you ever see bodybuild at 190lb sitting on hack and push 5 plates each side of the hack for reps of 10 ....this fella is SWIIMMMMING IN HORMOONES CONSISTANTLY WITH NO TIME OFF FOR MONTTHS

i really dont think fellas here know what it is to push 405 lb on bench for reps,,they dont understand how hard it is if you are only 200lb ,,it got to be conditioned muscle for it to happen ,,

few other things got to be there for the bodybuild to push very heavy weight

1 trenbolona ace will always be there

2 halo and or testosterona will always be there 

CONDITIONED SIZE AND HEAVY LIFTING IS ALWYS A DIRECT DEPENDENT OF A DRUG CALLED TRENBOLONA AND A DRUG CALLED TESTOSTERONA ,,HALO is what gets you to break records and put it on new minimums

i really despize liars,,and i dont understand why bodybuild lie to eachother in this case,,this is really nto impressive to lie to other bodybuld,,remember they are your brothers in iron not some whore in swimming pool,,


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[Ursus]

So a short fat but stroing 200lb guy with 10 years training will and should never bench 300x10 naturally?

[gh15]

So a short fat but stroing 200lb guy with 10 years training will and should never bench 300x10 naturally?

rememebr the height talked about here ,,this is nto short nothing,,this is 5'11 5'10 fella,,no 5'10 200lb bench over 300 lb for reps of 10 with out hormones in systenm either few or more only he knows,, 190-200lb fella 5'10 that bench 300+ lb 315+ for reps of 10 is on hormones! period


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[Ursus]

Disagree

[Per Se]

rememebr the height talked about here ,,this is nto short nothing,,this is 5'11 5'10 fella,,no 5'10 200lb bench over 300 lb for reps of 10 with out hormones in systenm either few or more only he knows,, 190-200lb fella 5'10 that bench 300+ lb 315+ for reps of 10 is on hormones! period


gh15 approved

it always makes me laugh that u think there's an absolute limit for a natural trainer.
so YOU take whatever u believe this natural limit to be, and then believe NO ONE who walks this planet can better your supposed limit....even u can see that this is ridiculous.

[Max B]

dont even argue with them ,,i didnt take good lok at the ursus fella but i did atjamaica boy,,you are talking here about hormonized lifts ,,and hormonized size,,not a lot of size btu conditioned size which is always in every single case hormonized to some degree,,

any 200lb fella who can push 300+ lb on barberl for reps of 10 is HORMONIZED,,if you ever see bodybuild at 190lb sitting on hack and push 5 plates each side of the hack for reps of 10 ....this fella is SWIIMMMMING IN HORMOONES CONSISTANTLY WITH NO TIME OFF FOR MONTTHS

i really dont think fellas here know what it is to push 405 lb on bench for reps,,they dont understand how hard it is if you are only 200lb ,,it got to be conditioned muscle for it to happen ,,

few other things got to be there for the bodybuild to push very heavy weight

1 trenbolona ace will always be there

2 halo and or testosterona will always be there 

CONDITIONED SIZE AND HEAVY LIFTING IS ALWYS A DIRECT DEPENDENT OF A DRUG CALLED TRENBOLONA AND A DRUG CALLED TESTOSTERONA ,,HALO is what gets you to break records and put it on new minimums

i really despize liars,,and i dont understand why bodybuild lie to eachother in this case,,this is really nto impressive to lie to other bodybuld,,remember they are your brothers in iron not some whore in swimming pool,,


gh15 approved

lol this is the funniest shit ive read here all week.