Followed the ''Adonis Principles '' for 8 weeks (pics)

[The True Adonis]

it's christmas, no time to dig up posts 

Are you going to get a lump of Synthol in your stocking this year Stavios?

[Stavios]

Are you going to get a lump of Synthol in your stocking this year Stavios?

hahaha would be nice 

[Shockwave]

Uh, he does not count calories.  You can dig through his posts its all right there.

Im not digging up posts; he said in this thread he counts calories; his physique corroborates that.
The burden of proof is on you, not me.

[The True Adonis]

Im not digging up posts; he said in this thread he counts calories; his physique corroborates that.
The burden of proof is on you, not me.

He never once stated that he counted calories.  You are filling in that large gap, just like religious morons tend to do.

[Shockwave]

Are you fucking stupid?

3rd counting calories isn't rocket science, I've been doing this shit way longer than you Adonis ,I know what I'm doing

Youre the one making large jumps of logic, somehow thinking that a person saying counting calories sucks somehow means he doesnt count them.
Youre the one looking like a moron here Adonis, not me.

You have yet to post any proof that Che doesnt count calories- You just keep posting that like its fact when you have nothing backing you up.
Especially when he says on page 3 that he does.

[lyquid]

Are the "N's" phucked up on your keyboard..?

homestly. Yes. A few keys are om my phome. Split water om it amd I rly like it simce its like a half black berry half iphome free apps cam play gameboy smes emulators om it so much amd they domt make it amyore so I dumo hat ima do.

but people om here domt umderstamd either say I'm to poor to aford a keyboard or I'm retarded. So I'm goimg with the retarded thimg if amyome ask.

[Nomad]

When you are done with that one, can we compare the overall nutritional value of 500 calories of Chicken Tikka Masala to your boring Boiled Breast Bullshit meal.
Thanks in advance.
Here is the ingredient list:  

INGREDIENTS
Chicken Tikka
1/2 teaspoon ground cumin
1/2 teaspoon ground coriander
1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon table salt
2 pounds boneless, skinless chicken breasts , trimmed of fat
1 cup plain whole-milk yogurt (see note above)
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 medium garlic cloves , minced or pressed through a garlic press (about 2 teaspoons)
1 tablespoon grated fresh ginger

Masala Sauce
3 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 medium onion , diced fine (about 1 1/4 cups)
2 medium garlic cloves , minced or pressed through a garlic press (about 2 teaspoons)
2 teaspoons grated fresh ginger
1 fresh serrano chile , ribs and seeds removed, flesh minced (see note above)
1 tablespoon tomato paste
1 tablespoon garam masala (see note above)
1 (28-ounce) can crushed tomatoes
2 teaspoons sugar
1/2 teaspoon table salt
2/3 cup heavy cream
1/4 cup chopped fresh cilantro leaves

So your principles depend on following your cooking recipes to the exact numbers?

[Devon97]

and I look like absolute shit 


No supplements
I consumed the same amount of calories
I went from 6 meals a day to 3 meals a day.
Protein from 180gr to 100gr .
Replaced  sweet potatoes,oatmeal, brown rice, pasta......etc.   for ice cream ,doughnuts ,chocolate....etc.
I lost muscle and gained fat
I went from a solid 173lbs  to skinny fat  175lbs.

I forgot how important nutrition is in natural '' bodybuilding''
There you have it ,the ''Adonis principles'' are shit, I hope this helps

Fuck you Adonis , flame on fags.

Sucker

[suckmymuscle]

Purveyors of Bro-Science, like religious lunatics, can never be reasoned with.  Nor can Republicans or people of low intelligence for that matter.

  Bro-science? This is hardcore science. It goes beyong merely placebo-controlled, double-blind studies. Cause-and-effect between physiological markers and different kinds of fatty acids, amino acids and carbohydrates have been observed in vitro and established beyong any reasonable doubts.

  For instance, elaidic acid(trans-oleic acid), the trans-isomer of oleic acid, which is the main contituent of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils used on most processed foods, cause decreased levels of high-density apo-lipoprotein, increased levels of low-density apolipoprotein in plasma and markers of infllammation by dramatically increasing cholesterylester transfer protein and prostaglandins.

  You give two guys different diets both with 2,000 calories and 20% fat but one with oleic acid from extra virgin olive oil and the other with trans-oleic acid from processed food and they end up with dramatically different levels of markers of body inflammation and blood lipid profile. This simple example shows how wrong you are.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Tito24]

[chaos]

Let me guess...Adonis being beaten, bruised and battered in this thread but won't admit it

[Tito24]

dont beat a dead horse

[The True Adonis]

 Bro-science? This is hardcore science. It goes beyong merely placebo-controlled, double-blind studies. Cause-and-effect between physiological markers and different kinds of fatty acids, amino acids and carbohydrates have been observed in vitro and established beyong any reasonable doubts.

  For instance, elaidic acid(trans-oleic acid), the trans-isomer of oleic acid, which is the main contituent of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils used on most processed foods, cause decreased levels of high-density apo-lipoprotein, increased levels of low-density apolipoprotein in plasma and markers of infllammation by dramatically increasing cholesterylester transfer protein and prostaglandins.

  You give two guys different diets both with 2,000 calories and 20% fat but one with oleic acid from extra virgin olive oil and the other with trans-oleic acid from processed food and they end up with dramatically different levels of markers of body inflammation and blood lipid profile. This simple example shows how wrong you are.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Have you done a nutritional comparison with the two meals I regularly cook with the exact ingredients listed and compared it to your Bullshit Bro-Science meal?

Clearly my two meals listed are way more Nutritionally Superior and Nutrient Dense than your nonsense.

[The True Adonis]

Are you fucking stupid?

Youre the one making large jumps of logic, somehow thinking that a person saying counting calories sucks somehow means he doesnt count them.
Youre the one looking like a moron here Adonis, not me.

You have yet to post any proof that Che doesnt count calories- You just keep posting that like its fact when you have nothing backing you up.
Especially when he says on page 3 that he does.

Che does not count calories.  Pay attention.  He has stated it many times throughout his Getbig Post history.

[suckmymuscle]

Have you done a nutritional comparison with the two meals I regularly cook with the exact ingredients listed and compared it to your Bullshit Bro-Science meal?

Clearly my two meals listed are way more Nutritionally Superior and Nutrient Dense than your nonsense.

  You are a complete fucking moron if you think this is "bro science". These are scientific facts, moron. Not only are you stupid, but you are too proud to admit that you are wrong.

  A comparison between the two? There is more to nutrition than just getting nutrients. I gave the example of skinless chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli as an example of clean foods. I never suggested you should eat only skinless chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli. And FYI, it contains more Calcium, Magnesium, vitamin B1, B2, Vitamin C, Manganese, fiber than a burger with fries plus a lot of anti-infllammatory phytochemicals that are completely absent in a burger with fries. The burgers with fries might have better protein since red meat has a slightly higher BV, but you get a lot more garbage.

  My point is that you can get all the nutrients you get from your diet and a lot more with a lot more health benefits by following a clean diet. But apparently, this simple concept it too hard for you to understand.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[The True Adonis]

 You are a complete fucking moron if you think this is "bro science". These are scientific facts, moron. Not only are you stupid, but you are too proud to admit that you are wrong.

  A comparison between the two? There is more to nutrition than just getting nutrients. I gave the example of skinless chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli as an example of clean foods. I never suggested you should eat only skinless chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli. And FYI, it contains more Calcium, Magnesium, vitamin B1, B2, Vitamin C, Manganese, fiber than a burger with fries plus a lot of anti-infllammatory phytochemicals that are completely absent in a burger with fries. The burgers with fries might have better protein since red meat has a slightly higher BV, but you get a lot more garbage.

  My point is that you can get all the nutrients you get from your diet and a lot more with a lot more health benefits by following a clean diet. But apparently, this simple concept it too hard for you to understand.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I am agreeing with you that my meals are much better for an individual than your Bullshit Bro-Meal precisely because of the nutrient content.

You are a moron.

[The True Adonis]

 You are a complete fucking moron if you think this is "bro science". These are scientific facts, moron. Not only are you stupid, but you are too proud to admit that you are wrong.

  A comparison between the two? There is more to nutrition than just getting nutrients. I gave the example of skinless chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli as an example of clean foods. I never suggested you should eat only skinless chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli. And FYI, it contains more Calcium, Magnesium, vitamin B1, B2, Vitamin C, Manganese, fiber than a burger with fries plus a lot of anti-infllammatory phytochemicals that are completely absent in a burger with fries. The burgers with fries might have better protein since red meat has a slightly higher BV, but you get a lot more garbage.

  My point is that you can get all the nutrients you get from your diet and a lot more with a lot more health benefits by following a clean diet. But apparently, this simple concept it too hard for you to understand.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

No such thing as a "clean" or a "dirty" food hence no such thing as a clean or dirty diet.

Chicken Tikka Masala is perfect for anybody.

[suckmymuscle]

No such thing as a "clean" or a "dirty" food hence no such thing as a clean or dirty diet.

  I think you are trolling me. This is obviously wrong and doesen't even need to be refuted. Some of the things you say are so retarded that it is like arguing that 2 + 2 = 5.

  There is more to nutrition than just getting nutrients. Yes, fatty red meat and french fries have nutrients, but they also have tons of constituents that impact your health negatively.

  You can get all the vitamins, minerals, amino acids and essential fatty acids plus a ton of beneficial chemicals from plants that are absent in junk food by eating a clean diet at a much lower cost to your health than by getting them from whatever foods you want. This is the key point that your dumbass can't seem to understand.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[The True Adonis]

Adonis Principles will get you to age 96 and beyond.

[The True Adonis]

 I think you are trolling me. This is obviously wrong and doesen't even need to be refuted. Some of the things you say are so retarded that it is like arguing that 2 + 2 = 5.

  There is more to nutrition than just getting nutrients. Yes, fatty red meat and french fries have nutrients, but they also have tons of constituents that impact your health negatively.

  You can get all the vitamins, minerals, amino acids and essential fatty acids plus a ton of beneficial chemicals from plants that are absent in junk food by eating a clean diet at a much lower cost to your health than by getting them from whatever foods you want. This is the key point that your dumbass can't seem to understand.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Chicken Tikka Masala is better for your health than anything you have ever eaten in your horrible little life.

[suckmymuscle]

  I am done arguing with this "Adonis". The guy is a dishonest retard who is too proud to admit that he is wrong even when you explain to him in precise detail why he is wrong and present facts that were proven by physiologists and biochemists beyond any doubt.

  I don't understand why anyone argues with him He is so obviously wrong and the things he says are so retarded and easily proven wrong that I wonder why anyone wastes their times having protracted debates with him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[The True Adonis]

  I am done arguing with this "Adonis". The guy is a dishonest retard who is too proud to admit that he is wrong even when you explain to him in precise detail why he is wrong and present facts that were proven by physiologists and biochemists beyond any doubt.

  I don't understand why anyone argues with him He is so obviously wrong and the things he says are so retarded and easily proven wrong that I wonder why anyone wastes their times having protracted debates with him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

How is it wrong to state that the meals I cook and eat are much better nutrient wise than the shit and slop that you eat on a daily basis?

I don`t understand what you are trying to argue here. 

[The True Adonis]

  I am done arguing with this "Adonis". The guy is a dishonest retard who is too proud to admit that he is wrong even when you explain to him in precise detail why he is wrong and present facts that were proven by physiologists and biochemists beyond any doubt.

  I don't understand why anyone argues with him He is so obviously wrong and the things he says are so retarded and easily proven wrong that I wonder why anyone wastes their times having protracted debates with him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I am quite certain that Country Captain is more nutritious and healthy than anything you have made in your entire lifetime.

[Krankenstein]

meam while the true phaggot is rly  just a ectomorph who cam eat whateber he wamts. Mcdomalds all day amd cream sicles. Amd stay leam amd its true cause some days all I will eat is pure juml if I'm that lazy amd worst comes to worst if I stop traimimg for a momth or lomger I get a timy pouch om my lower abs.

yet still ripped eberywhere else. Camt beleibe some people actually beleied that calorie is calorie bullshit.

its easy to look good matural amd gibe out tips whem you got a fast metabolism. Eberyome always use to ask me how to get leam or ripped yet I was still muscular whem I was matura to. Amd I'd look at um amd go I dumo I eat choclate amd mcdomalda all day...

he's just a rare ectreme ecto actimg like he's worked hard to get leam amd kmows the secrets. Hey dumbshit ur metabolism is gemetic stop gibimg out tips

Fix your 'N" button you phaggot.....its fucking annoying

[wes]

Yes....che should have weighed his donut and twinkies. That would have solved everything.

LOL