I'm not looking to engage in a flame war. But I want to throw a few things out there.
gh15 isn't ripping anyone off. No one's been ripped off by us and the mods aren't bribed with goodies. And if they are, those fuckers are holding out on me because I'm bone dry. Someone please fill me in on the details to get lavished with glorious bribes please! lol
As for the thread starter, I have no beef with him but it's clear his buddy is lying to him. It's a genetic lottery. If you respond the way IFBB pros do, you can take it far. If not, just be happy with what you can accomplish with whatever it is you're comfortable doing. Drugs are a part of the game though and that's regardless of what gh15 has said, done or whatever. He's just delivering the truth and it's been reproduced by his followers, so that's why they recline to his advices.
If everyone dropped everything and started dieting on chicken, broccoli and modest doses, there'd sure be a lot smaller muscle bears for the schmoes to spank it to. Lord knows no one wants to see any of that.
Can't speak for anyone else, but i'm not saying that.
But people are getting fleeced over there by scammers, to deny it is just bullshit.
My point is that you can't stop scammers from scamming. we have all seen the Kig merry-go-round over there, one week they are good to go, next week five guys say they got hosed. it's all there in black and white.
Caveat Emptor...that's a fact of life. You guys are dreaming of some utopian board where everyone has the best intentions, ain't gonna happen.
Cue some mouthpiece to insult me personally, and say how I'm "jealous" or something equally stupid...because i have an opinion.

I have no beef with anyone over there. i think Apply85 is a little to big for his britches, but even so, i have nothing really against him....he's harmless. he just really likes the sound of his own voice