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« Reply #175 on: October 12, 2012, 10:57:11 AM » |
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You know as much as I do whether John is a lying POS or not, I'm just saying that there's a chance he just really is a genetic freak and it's possible.
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« Reply #176 on: October 12, 2012, 11:08:01 AM » |
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Yeah I hit "view pic" on your avatar and the avatar is bunched up. The skin texture looks somewhat suspect at first glance. Can't tell definitively from it though, so let's leave that. Pic of delt area would be better.
In any case, forget stats. I don't care about stats and I've argued this so many times before.
Drugs give certain look. Platz had tiny ass arms. Columbu had smallish "natural size" arms. Zane weighed in at a "natural" bodyweight. Bodybuilding is the look mainly, not the stat on paper. Sometimes stats can definitively say someone is juicing as they are so outrageous but many good bodybuilders don't look that impressive on paper yet are juiced up all the same.
Look at the double bi of John posted earlier, I think he said from 1996. Even his face tells the story.
Yeah but you are forgetting the "fact" that John is a nice guy so therefore logic tells us he wouldn't lie. Forget about the "fact" that he has an androgen face and some suspect gyno. |
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« Reply #177 on: October 12, 2012, 01:49:31 PM » |
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You're finally coming around, almost there...
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« Reply #178 on: October 13, 2012, 09:17:15 AM » |
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This guy was all natural as well.....oh nevermind he had SHIT genetics!  |
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« Reply #179 on: October 13, 2012, 09:54:28 AM » |
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This guy was all natural as well.....oh nevermind he had SHIT genetics! Great pic. This is why size is not the only thing to look for when someone is on juice. Most would look at Ben in this pic and think he is natural, but we know he is not. Same with all the juiced up tennis players. |
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« Reply #180 on: October 13, 2012, 10:35:53 AM » |
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Great pic. This is why size is not the only thing to look for when someone is on juice. Most would look at Ben in this pic and think he is natural, but we know he is not. Same with all the juiced up tennis players.
tennis, baseball, nfl, nhl, cycling, soccer, all olympic sports, |
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« Reply #181 on: October 13, 2012, 11:10:07 AM » |
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He's the size of some IFBB pro's ffs  Some people think that taking Pro-hormones still qualifies as natural.. |
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« Reply #182 on: October 13, 2012, 11:11:55 AM » |
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Some people think that taking Pro-hormones still qualifies as natural..
'definiton'of natural has a broad scope nowaday's.. |
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« Reply #183 on: October 13, 2012, 11:21:34 AM » |
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HRT I love that word for most guys in the industry HRT doses = 2-3g a week. I guess in this bizarro world that gives you natty status fuck no. some guys might consider 750mg HRT but NOBODY considers grams to be HRT. you guys drank way too much of the gh15 cool aid |
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« Reply #184 on: October 13, 2012, 02:21:22 PM » |
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There's a lot of really fkn great natty Bodybuilders out there. Where do you draw the line for what's acceptable to Be considered a natural physique? There's always someone with naturally better genetics who's showing up at these natty shows and pissing clean and passing lie detector tests. there's freaks out there...just look at some "prison yard" physiques that black inmates have. All about genetics!
There's also some really ugly fat f***'s out there on grams of gear who are just bad Bodybuilders. I train with a kid on occasion here at my gym whos on a gram of test and 600mg NPP a week and he still can't break past 16" (not shredded) arms. Point here is that based on Bodybuilders I've known personally, Johns physique and claims are believable. Theres some pics of some really great natties on this site (Krank, meso) who understand that some people are just gifted at building lean muscle without drugs. You can't lump everyone into a box and say "impossible without drugs!" The man is 185 lbs FFS
I'm just saying that the thickness of veins poping on pecks,shoulders and forearms...... are the result of anabolics in that particular picture.... I've been around long enough. WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H |
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« Reply #185 on: October 14, 2012, 07:51:38 AM » |
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He's also leaner, heavier, and shorter than many of the freaks and contest winners of the 40's, 50's -
Bodybuilder:
Clarence Ross #198
John Farbotnik #195
George Eiferman #195
Reg Park #214
John Grimek #208
Jack Delinger #195
Steve Reeves #214
Could it really be all training, rib cage expansion, creatine, vitamins, etc..... ? Something to ponder.
That settles it. Anyone who's bigger, stronger, or faster than their precedessors from FOUR OR FIVE DECADES ago must be taking anabolics by the truckload.  |
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« Reply #186 on: October 14, 2012, 07:53:41 AM » |
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I have recently became aware of someone who claims to hold the title of "Mr. Natural Olympia" : John Hansen Other than the fact that he goes to the movies with Erin singerman then reviewing them for RxHustle (where he advertises) I must confess I had never heard of him. -Was there once upon a time such a thing as 'the' IFBB Mr. Natural Olympia- if so why isnt there one anymore? - is this guy as natural as his hair? - does he have a younger double    It's not an IFBB title. That contest is in another organization, the INBA. Here's a clip of the current winner, Kiyoshi Moody (who has posted on GetBig before). According to the INBA website, he's held the title, since 2009 and is going for his 4th straight win on November 9th. |
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« Reply #187 on: October 14, 2012, 08:06:29 AM » |
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Here's a clip of the current winner, Kiyoshi Moody (who has posted on GetBig before). According to the INBA website, he's held the title, since 2009 and is going for his 4th straight win on November 9th.
Kiyoshi "gyno surgery" Moody LOL. Such a blatant doper.  |
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« Reply #188 on: October 14, 2012, 08:14:26 AM » |
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Kiyoshi "gyno surgery" Moody LOL. Such a blatant doper. Gyno doesn't necessarily mean steroid use. I had gyno on my right pec, when I was teenager, weighing all of a 135. |
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« Reply #189 on: October 14, 2012, 08:15:38 AM » |
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Kiyoshi "gyno surgery" Moody LOL. Such a blatant doper. When he trains really hard and focused, coupled with diet and PMA, his test levels mimic aas, to the extent that he gets gyno and other sides Clearly Kyoshi is on another level genetically. Oh yes, and yams. |
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« Reply #190 on: October 14, 2012, 10:16:53 AM » |
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When he trains really hard and focused, coupled with diet and PMA, his test levels mimic aas, to the extent that he gets gyno and other sides
Clearly Kyoshi is on another level genetically. Oh yes, and yams.
What the heck is PMA? Moody looks lanky. I thought he was 6' light-heavyweight. He's an ex-football player; so it's not surprising he has fairly good genetics. |
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« Reply #191 on: October 14, 2012, 11:54:03 AM » |
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What the heck is PMA?
Moody looks lanky. I thought he was 6' light-heavyweight. He's an ex-football player; so it's not surprising he has fairly good genetics.
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« Reply #192 on: October 14, 2012, 11:56:42 AM » |
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I bet this guy has a product line he endorses.....protein, creatine, maybe a mouthpiece. Take this stuff, and you can be big like him too.
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« Reply #193 on: October 14, 2012, 12:30:09 PM » |
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he looks good,frame and gets in good condition.
His physique is good, no question. He just looks taller than he actually is, because of the proportions. |
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« Reply #194 on: October 14, 2012, 12:34:22 PM » |
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It's not an IFBB title. That contest is in another organization, the INBA. Here's a clip of the current winner, Kiyoshi Moody (who has posted on GetBig before). According to the INBA website, he's held the title, since 2009 and is going for his 4th straight win on November 9th. omg what a total homo this must be the gayest posing routine ever |
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« Reply #195 on: October 14, 2012, 01:00:33 PM » |
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John Hansen is natural. Why is it so hard to believe that with 30 years of dedication someone can attain an 185lbs stage ready physique. You guys will say that anyone who looks better than you is on juice.
I'm on juice. John Hansen is not.
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« Reply #196 on: October 14, 2012, 01:08:14 PM » |
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John Hansen is natural. Why is it so hard to believe that with 30 years of dedication someone can attain an 185lbs stage ready physique. You guys will say that anyone who looks better than you is on juice.
I'm on juice. John Hansen is not.
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« Reply #197 on: October 14, 2012, 01:12:45 PM » |
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omg what a total homo
this must be the gayest posing routine ever
Apparently, you didn't see Ronnie Coleman's 1994 Olympia presentation. Hey, it beats doing 200 most-musculars to Satan-worshipping metal. |
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« Reply #198 on: October 14, 2012, 01:15:47 PM » |
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How are you going to cater to your "gay schmoe fans" coming off the juice f@ggget When you are as attractive as I am facially, you don't ever have to worry about such things. |
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« Reply #199 on: October 14, 2012, 01:23:15 PM » |
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When you are as attractive as I am facially, you don't ever have to worry about such things.
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