Author Topic: Bodybuilders "cardio" - have to laugh at the slow rate  (Read 33590 times)

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #50 on: December 25, 2012, 03:00:52 PM »
my point is this slow treadmill walking is an utter joke, same results while walking around in the city, shopping.

even more calories burnt, night out clubbing.


ppl eat loads protein, take all hormones in the book and think if they overdo cardio theyll lose muscle.hahaha.yeah right.

whats to say about people who bodybuild and work hard on construction sites?



I agree with you but, A lot of those guys are borderline type II diabetics. So just getting up and moving is going to have a positive effect on their disease. Once the limbs start going numb, they gotta get that blood circulating.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #51 on: December 25, 2012, 05:17:02 PM »
High intensity cardio burns muscle mass, low intensity burns bodyfat.

Hope this helps.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #52 on: December 25, 2012, 09:19:50 PM »
haha, i always have to laugh when i see permabulkers stepping a treadmill or stationary bicycle slower than the 70year old right next to them.

whats the oint of this, the same effect can be had by a walk through town.

hell, masturbation burns more calories than that.

maybe the solution is also to eat  a little bit less

Doing something is preferable to doing nothing. If you lived where I live, you'd understand why someone might chose to get on a treadmill or stationary bicycle over taking a walk or bike ride through town. Walking or riding a bicycle in the pouring rain gets really old. You are right that diet combined with exercise is the way to go.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2012, 11:27:36 AM »
yes, its very easy, to get cut:

starve, learn starving and learn how to deal with it, theres ways to make it somewhat comfortable.

move around alot.

train hard

rest

eat enough protein

dont forget the steroids

and no, no slowly getting into diet, just crash, when on gear itll work.



How many total calories are you talking roughly? 

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2012, 11:31:39 AM »
What are asics? I need some running shoes.. I am on the market for some for sure... I am using my driving shoes which are OK for running but I am sure I could use something new...

Have these at the moment. Nice shoes to run in if you are into natural running.


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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2012, 11:38:49 AM »
I have puma myself...but asics are great.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2012, 11:47:02 AM »
Quick sprints are best.  Just compare sprinters to runners.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2012, 11:50:28 AM »
Quick sprints are best.  Just compare sprinters to runners.

yep

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2012, 12:05:42 PM »
I always did HIT cardio like sprints for 20 minutes a few days a week.

These days i like to do something intersting like muay thai or mountain biking.

Jogging on a treadmill or using a stationary bike is not something i would even consider these days.


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« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2012, 12:14:47 PM »
if one can stand through it, 1500cals.

its terrible, but works.

What about metabolic damage? And how many calories do you take after that, how fast do you increase your caloric intake?

By the way, 1500kcal is just not only protein, how many fats and carbs?

If my goal would be get lean and stay strong, like 10% bf, how many carbs on training days would you take?

By the way, you've mentioned that you were strongest while beaning most lean coz of drugs - were you starving and still getting stronger? Did you take a lot of tren? :D That's the only drug that would make it possible, at least for me.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2012, 12:18:27 PM »
ronnie did low intensity cardio for 60 minutes, and was the second-greatest Bber ever (aside from phil heath).

low intensity works!

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2012, 12:30:25 PM »
Like someone said.  Just get off the couch and do something.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2012, 12:38:52 PM »
What about metabolic damage? And how many calories do you take after that, how fast do you increase your caloric intake?

By the way, 1500kcal is just not only protein, how many fats and carbs?

If my goal would be get lean and stay strong, like 10% bf, how many carbs on training days would you take?

By the way, you've mentioned that you were strongest while beaning most lean coz of drugs - were you starving and still getting stronger? Did you take a lot of tren? :D That's the only drug that would make it possible, at least for me.

Those are good questions.  I'd like to hear your thoughts as well.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2012, 12:48:44 PM »
Like someone said.  Just get off the couch and do something.
yes just move...where did you get that pic on your profile ...iike it...freaky

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2012, 01:16:07 PM »
What about metabolic damage? And how many calories do you take after that, how fast do you increase your caloric intake?

By the way, 1500kcal is just not only protein, how many fats and carbs?

If my goal would be get lean and stay strong, like 10% bf, how many carbs on training days would you take?

By the way, you've mentioned that you were strongest while beaning most lean coz of drugs - were you starving and still getting stronger? Did you take a lot of tren? :D That's the only drug that would make it possible, at least for me.

"Metabolic damage"? Explain please.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2012, 01:30:01 PM »
"Metabolic damage"? Explain please.

You diet down using very low-caloric diet, metabolism slows down. Then you go all out, binge, eat everything in sight, gain a lot of the fat back but metabolism remains slow. Then you want to diet down again, metabolism is arleady slower, process repeats. After few "cycles" you're ruined and not able to loose fat.

Happens to naturals who compete a lot, described by Layne Norton, but I've observed it as well, especially among chicks.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2012, 01:38:51 PM »
High intensity cardio burns muscle mass, low intensity burns bodyfat.

Hope this helps.


Yeah, those Olympic sprinters are TINY 

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #67 on: December 26, 2012, 01:41:59 PM »
You diet down using very low-caloric diet, metabolism slows down. Then you go all out, binge, eat everything in sight, gain a lot of the fat back but metabolism remains slow. Then you want to diet down again, metabolism is arleady slower, process repeats. After few "cycles" you're ruined and not able to loose fat.

Happens to naturals who compete a lot, described by Layne Norton, but I've observed it as well, especially among chicks.
Metabolism does not change like that. There are 2 mechanism (for lack of a better term) in your metabolism. One---changes in the long run through age and hormones produced by the body, these are long term alterations in metabolism. Two---are short term changes based on the foods you eat. Now if your metabolism slows down from calorie deficit and you all of a sudden start pigging out then your metabolism will not stay "slowed down" as you suggested, it will instantly speed back up the second you start pigging out.

Now the reason you feel like it is still in 'slowed down' mode is because you are packing on fat but that is not cause of your metabolism, that is because you are pigging out.

Solution; Don't pig out after dieting  ;)

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #68 on: December 26, 2012, 01:46:29 PM »
haha, i always have to laugh when i see permabulkers stepping a treadmill or stationary bicycle slower than the 70year old right next to them.

whats the oint of this, the same effect can be had by a walk through town.

hell, masturbation burns more calories than that.

maybe the solution is also to eat  a little bit less

lol

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I see people running all the time like the next marathon is coming up in Feb?  I'm sure you burn a bit more fat while running, but wouldn't you rather keep more muscle by low intensity cardio...in return increasing your metabolism?  Boring thread, just wondering though.  Not every post can have the flair of the now infamous, gay for pay Derek Anthony.  Classic.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #69 on: December 26, 2012, 02:04:23 PM »

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #70 on: December 26, 2012, 02:06:38 PM »

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #71 on: December 26, 2012, 02:08:30 PM »
Guys who drive a couple of miles to the gym and then do a couple of miles at a snails pace on the treadmill after their workout.  ???

Im sure they could do something different.

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #72 on: December 26, 2012, 02:09:07 PM »
Guys who drive a couple of miles to the gym and then do a couple of miles at a snails pace on the treadmill after their workout.  ???

Im sure they could do something different.

How you doing Brian?

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #73 on: December 26, 2012, 02:09:53 PM »
my names not Brian, thats the dog in my avatar

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Re: bodybuilders "cardio"
« Reply #74 on: December 26, 2012, 02:10:42 PM »
my names not Brian, thats the dog in my avatar

I know man.