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« Reply #125 on: December 27, 2012, 04:05:04 PM »

bulking is a waste of time, getting fat just to diet it off again.   Roll Eyes
Train hard year round and do some cardio precontest.
Off season just knock the cardio on the head.
Up the cutting drugs pre-contest.


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« Reply #126 on: December 27, 2012, 05:00:43 PM »

90% of older guys at my gym just drink whole year and then get on gear and get shredded. They drink a lot during weekends, barely eat anything and take a lot of amphetamine Cheesy

How old is older? At my age, which is 68, I don't eat as much as I did when I was younger. Being retired, I don't get as much exercise as I did when I worked. In my work, I walked at least half of my day if not more. If one isn't burning as many calories, they shouldn't get as hungry or eat as much as people who are more active.

I don't drink like the folks you describe. I don't take amphetamines. I eat every day. I am not currently on HRT. However, I am considering going back on testosterone cypionate in another 6 months to boost my testosterone levels which are normally rather low. However, my dosage is very modest compared to what some bodybuilders self prescribe.
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« Reply #127 on: December 27, 2012, 05:01:37 PM »

How old is older? At my age, which is 68, I don't eat as much as I did when I was younger. Being retired, I don't get as much exercise as I did when I worked. In my work, I walked at least half of my day if not more. If one isn't burning as many calories, they shouldn't get as hungry or eat as much as people who are more active.

I don't drink like the folks you describe. I don't take amphetamines. I eat every day. I am not currently on HRT. However, I am considering going back on testosterone cypionate in another 6 months to boost my testosterone levels which are normally rather low. However, my dosage is very modest compared to what some bodybuilders self prescribe.

68 is not older, 68 is dead.

I mean over 40 years old.
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« Reply #128 on: December 27, 2012, 05:31:44 PM »

How old is older? At my age, which is 68, I don't eat as much as I did when I was younger. Being retired, I don't get as much exercise as I did when I worked. In my work, I walked at least half of my day if not more. If one isn't burning as many calories, they shouldn't get as hungry or eat as much as people who are more active.

I don't drink like the folks you describe. I don't take amphetamines. I eat every day. I am not currently on HRT. However, I am considering going back on testosterone cypionate in another 6 months to boost my testosterone levels which are normally rather low. However, my dosage is very modest compared to what some bodybuilders self prescribe.

Why are you waiting to get on HRT? Do yourself a favor...it's the quality in life that matter and test brings quality to a man's life. Not like you need me to tell you that, as you have wisdom on your side that I don't. Just my opinion....
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« Reply #129 on: December 27, 2012, 06:58:30 PM »

Low intensity cardio works to burn fat, fact.
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« Reply #130 on: December 27, 2012, 07:26:32 PM »

I am leanest in the morning right when I wake up, I suspect there is a secret here.
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« Reply #131 on: December 27, 2012, 07:26:59 PM »

Low intensity cardio works to burn fat, fact.
of course but so does high intesity  Wink
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« Reply #132 on: December 27, 2012, 07:27:58 PM »

I am leanest in the morning right when I wake up, I suspect there is a secret here.
Yes, it's called dehydrated from not drinking water all night.  Smiley Wink
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« Reply #133 on: December 27, 2012, 07:30:28 PM »

of course but so does high intesity  Wink

high intensity is MUCH BETTER because of the metabolic cost of it

but one needs to be very careful with it, coz it can put one into a state of over-training right quick

i tried to do it 3 times per week, but it was a no-go

twice a week was all i could handle
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« Reply #134 on: December 27, 2012, 07:33:40 PM »

high intensity is MUCH BETTER because of the metabolic cost of it

but one needs to be very careful with it, coz it can put one into a state of over-training right quick

i tried to do it 3 times per week, but it was a no-go

twice a week was all i could handle
when you are on enough juice over training is not a problem, however being sore might interfere with your workouts.
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« Reply #135 on: December 27, 2012, 07:39:14 PM »

when you are on enough juice over training is not a problem, however being sore might interfere with your workouts.

i'm not sure if you know exactly what i'm talking about

i never got sore from it, but at the end of a proper session i'd be laying on the floor nearly passed out huffing and puffing like a freight train close to heart fibrillation for a good 5-10 min lol
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« Reply #136 on: December 27, 2012, 08:15:09 PM »

very interesting, i have the same exact experiences.

when very lean and eat full junk food till sick for couple days everything blows up, then when i carry on, get softer, then if i go back low carbs i look like absulte shit and look deflated and the gained fat shows.

just small observation.wondering if its same for you

Yes. Exact same for me. Funny stuff!

When I diet for shows, I eat whatever I want for the last two meals on Sunday. Just something I've learned to work with over time that helps me deal with dieting. On Monday, when I wake up after having not had enough to drink, I look my best that week. But by Monday night, after returning to low calories, doing my cardio and working out, I flatten right out. And by Thursday, I look like shit. Because I know to expect it, I don't freak out over how flat and fat I think I look (even when I'm sub 10%). I know I'm a few big meals and extra calories away from looking good again. But if I do it too soon, I don't keep the body in a caloric deficit long enough to get as lean as I need to, so I have to suffer.

It's all just head games. If you can starve and suffer and keep your eye on your goal, you tend to ignore the games your body plays with your mind. Also, the more you do it, the more you come to expect this and are able to just shrug it off as no big deal.

My first show was a mindfuck though. Didn't know what to expect...read a bunch of books, but wasn't ready for what happened to the body when you applied the tactics. Probably should have had a coach or friend who'd done it before help me, but I was the only guy at my school who did bodybuilding back then, so I was on my own. Probably explains why I sucked ass at the show. All the guys and girls at school thought I looked like a freak and would totally win. Then I do a show and realize that i wasn't really that special. What a wake-up call!
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« Reply #137 on: December 28, 2012, 01:46:40 AM »

some good posts on here...intresting
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« Reply #138 on: December 28, 2012, 02:09:02 AM »

funny vid of ronnie coleman walking up a set of stairs to the cinema -totally out of breath....it was like he had climbed mt everest....

these fuckers have zero cardio ability...sad, fucking sad and pathetic.
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« Reply #139 on: December 28, 2012, 11:38:02 AM »

Cardio is important ..i saw my father have a  heart attack ..they say its genetic . Just hope i take it like a man on the chin
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« Reply #140 on: December 28, 2012, 11:50:20 AM »

Cardio is important ..i saw my father have a  heart attack ..they say its genetic . Just hope i take it like a man on the chin
doesnt weight training train the heart
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« Reply #141 on: December 28, 2012, 11:54:54 AM »

they opened my fathers chest like a pig to slaughter to replce some heart valves or whatever, looks like its bound to happen to me one day.

enjoy every day to fullest, dont do very stupid things, we never know the minute, we never know the day.

My father is a gynecologist. He told me that once during some seminar he was surgery on penis. When huge fat woman cut some guy's dick in half he lost it.

Heart problems are nothing man, imagine having prostate cancer. They cut it out with nerves, everything. You won't be able to get out of home without diapers. Testosterone? Forget about it, they will treat you with shit to reduce your natural testosterone. Sex? Well, viagra won't work. You'll have to inject shit straight to your penis in order to make it go up.

Personally, if I ever get prostate cancer I'll say - thank you very much, I'd rather die.
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« Reply #142 on: December 28, 2012, 12:01:41 PM »

We are all men together here (no homo )... Smiley
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« Reply #143 on: December 29, 2012, 07:20:48 PM »

My father is a gynecologist. He told me that once during some seminar he was surgery on penis. When huge fat woman cut some guy's dick in half he lost it.

Heart problems are nothing man, imagine having prostate cancer. They cut it out with nerves, everything. You won't be able to get out of home without diapers. Testosterone? Forget about it, they will treat you with shit to reduce your natural testosterone. Sex? Well, viagra won't work. You'll have to inject shit straight to your penis in order to make it go up.

Personally, if I ever get prostate cancer I'll say - thank you very much, I'd rather die.

I had prostate cancer. Fortunately, your description of a prostatectomy is way off base. Robotic surgery is nerve sparing. I wore panty liners for about a month after the surgery in case I dripped. This almost never happened and today I have no incontinence issues. In fact, minus the enlarged prostate, I am back to peeing like a horse.

I had ED prior to the surgery. It didn't get any better with the surgery. At 68 years of age, not getting an erection is not a huge deal to me. The shots work and they are relatively painless. I've started having nocturnal erections again recently. I suppose the nerves could be making new connections.   

I was on HRT prior to the prostate cancer diagnosis. My doctor indicated I could go back on it after a year. Since my PSA numbers are undetectable now, he indicated I could go back on testosterone cypionate sooner if I wanted. I will make that decision in three months when I have the next PSA and a testosterone level check. I suspect it is low. It was low prior to the cancer which is why I was on HRT.

Prostate cancer is the most common cancer men get. I've heard that eventually, all men end up with this cancer but most die of something else before they die from prostate cancer as it is sometimes slow growing. It is a good idea to have your PSA checked at least once a year. If one has prostate cancer it is better caught early rather than later.
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« Reply #144 on: December 29, 2012, 08:51:59 PM »

so does going to bed sleeping hungry.

You're both correct.

Add in two or three HIT cardio sessions (stadium steps, sprints) per week= LEAN.
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« Reply #145 on: December 29, 2012, 10:38:02 PM »

hard to run lately, have developed a fucked up callus on the outer left part of my left foot.
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« Reply #146 on: December 29, 2012, 11:52:17 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFNjSCBo2x4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFNjSCBo2x4</a>
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« Reply #147 on: December 29, 2012, 11:55:55 PM »

Munzer even swam

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3alS4rTR-bQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3alS4rTR-bQ</a>
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« Reply #148 on: December 30, 2012, 12:12:56 AM »

 Cheesy
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« Reply #149 on: December 30, 2012, 12:20:01 AM »

68 is not older, 68 is dead.

I mean over 40 years old.

Spoken like 30 something year old.
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