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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #125 on: January 04, 2014, 09:02:42 PM »
Well, that plus the fact that your grammar is awful tells me you have the IQ of an iPhone.  

I am part of a higher echelon of society. I have a better idea on how to milk the system. I knew what it took to get to where I am and I did it. Now, do I think everyone should do what I did? Nope. Do I opine that if people do not meet my own personal standards and make mistakes (we're all human after all) they should be left to die by society? Nope.

I didn't say you "said", I said you insinuated such a thing. If you don't believe me read your own comments.

"fuking"?  ;D

How can you live this life of luxury with so many people starving and dying because they are working for minimum wage? You obviously have way more than enough. You can afford to pay more to others. Instead of requiring others to give more why don't you?

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #126 on: January 04, 2014, 09:03:08 PM »
why are you so passionate about them not making a better wage?  i never participate in these conversations but you have for years, why does it bother you?

higher prices would just be mcdonalds greed, if you like a big mac so much what is another buck to you?  i mean you can afford it right you work so hard and earned everything...

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I am not passionate about them not making a better wage, I encourage all of them to go out get an education/learn a trade and live a better life.

I am passionate about self entitled fuck ups who think its other peoples responsibility to take care of them though.

you continue to call the companies greedy but ignorantly look right over the greed of the workers?

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #127 on: January 04, 2014, 09:04:33 PM »
I am not passionate about them not making a better wage, I encourage all of them to go out get an education/learn a trade and live a better life.

I am passionate about self entitled fuck ups who think its other peoples responsibility to take care of them though.

you continue to call the companies greedy but ignorantly look right over the greed of the workers?

Jay Leno makes almost 30 million a year. Who needs that much money? Why isn't he exploiting NBC?

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #128 on: January 04, 2014, 09:06:00 PM »
How can you live this life of luxury with so many people starving and dying because they are working for minimum wage? You obviously have way more than enough. You can afford to pay more to others. Instead of requiring others to give more why don't you?

Who the hell is starving in America?

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #129 on: January 04, 2014, 09:07:03 PM »
Well, that plus the fact that your grammar is awful tells me you have the IQ of an iPhone.  

I am part of a higher echelon of society. I have a better idea on how to milk the system. I knew what it took to get to where I am and I did it. Now, do I think everyone should do what I did? Nope. Do I opine that if people do not meet my own personal standards and make mistakes (we're all human after all) they should be left to die by society? Nope.

I didn't say you "said", I said you insinuated such a thing. If you don't believe me read your own comments.

"fuking"?  ;D
LMFAO trust me dousche bag I deal with the finances of people ten times more financially set then your dumb ass so you can take your made up fantasy and shove it straight up your ass.

Thats fine if you feel that way donate some of that monopoly money after your done playing with your mom to them. DO NOT feel like your opinons on their fuck ups should extend to my pockets or the pockets of anyone elses

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #130 on: January 04, 2014, 09:08:55 PM »
Who the hell is starving in America?
fucking exactly, according the slapper these people are all strugling to put food on the table even though they have plenty of room in their residence, have multiple tvs with cable, video game systems for their kids...


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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #131 on: January 04, 2014, 09:10:42 PM »
fucking exactly, according the slapper these people are all strugling to put food on the table even though they have plenty of room in their residence, have multiple tvs with cable, video game systems for their kids...



Our poorest are our fattest, go figure.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #132 on: January 04, 2014, 09:12:29 PM »
companys are not there to provide jobs, jobs are a by product of the companies goal of providing services/products for a profit.

Understand that Earl, you nor anyone else is ENTITLED to a job.

Jobs are something that are given on merit and the compensation is comsumerate with that merit.

Your argument is based solely on emotion and envy b/c they have more then others...

they can't provide the service without people willing to work for them, those hamburgers don't cook themselves

yeah they have more than me, they also have more than you yet you side with them

are you a corporate millionaire or is it a case of trying to buddy up with the star qb thinking that is your ticket to being in his clique?

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #133 on: January 04, 2014, 09:13:14 PM »
fucking exactly, according the slapper these people are all strugling to put food on the table even though they have plenty of room in their residence, have multiple tvs with cable, video game systems for their kids...



Socialists are in a position of continually having to minimize the successes of Capitalism. To do this, they have to take almost everything for granted. The median World income per capita is 10k a year. By world standards American poor live like kings have and access to goods and services that weren't available even to the Elites just a few years ago.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #134 on: January 04, 2014, 09:16:19 PM »
By the way a single person making minimum wage is above the poverty line

http://poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/what-are-annual-earnings-full-time-minimum-wage-worker

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #135 on: January 04, 2014, 09:17:06 PM »
Our poorest are our fattest, go figure.

An online friend of mine who lives in India told me his dream is to be able to live in America. A chance of fortune that many of us here did nothing to earn or deserve. When I asked what was the number one reason he wanted to live here he told me, "I want to be able to live in a country where the poor people are fat."

People here take so much for granted and have no idea what being poor really means.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #136 on: January 04, 2014, 09:18:13 PM »
An online friend of mine who lives in India told me his dream is to be able to live in America. A chance of fortune that many of us here did nothing to earn or deserve. When I asked what was the number one reason he wanted to live here he told me, "I want to be able to live in a country where the poor people are fat."

People here take so much for granted and have no idea what being poor really means.

Absolutely.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #137 on: January 04, 2014, 09:21:20 PM »
they can't provide the service without people willing to work for them, those hamburgers don't cook themselves

yeah they have more than me, they also have more than you yet you side with them

are you a corporate millionaire or is it a case of trying to buddy up with the star qb thinking that is your ticket to being in his clique?

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b/c I dont fucking care that they have more than me, this isnt a us vs them thing Earl!!!

The thing is bro that basically EVERYBODY has the ability to flip burgers and push buttons on a cash register. The skill set for a position like that is so low that it doesnt warrant a higher pay.

Again you get jobs based on MERIT, you are not entitled to a job...

I am not a millionaire, I do deal with millionaires and billionaires on a daily basis and may have the opportunity in the future to make millions. I also may only make 100K a year for the rest of my life.

First you chastised me for it being all about "me" and now youre saying that its all about You...LMFAO only on getbig bro


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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #138 on: January 04, 2014, 09:25:16 PM »
Boeing workers up here are doing just that. They voted to strike and risked Boeing 777 being moved out of state because they wanted more money and pension though they make way more than any other union for Boeing in other states. It was silly it Boeing bluff worked as the union just signed the ok to terms.
youre up here too eh? Yeah, it was fucking dumb and the Boeing employees are so out of touch with reality.... they get paid 3x as mich as any non boeing employee to do the same job and have insane benefits yet somehow theyre striking and bitching about how they're getting fucked over.

people are fucking retarded and always want more and want someone else to pay for it, and dont feel that their personal skills, work ethic, or qualifications factor into it.

generation entitlement, give me money because you have it and im envious of peace.

where you at in Washington? Im in the south east 405 area... northern kent/southern renton.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #139 on: January 04, 2014, 09:30:44 PM »
Both parents work because they want more people because the want a higher standard of livig. Standards of living are much higher now. The garage is full of cars. We only had one when I was growing up. For the first time in history their are more TVs in the house than people. Just look at the "entertainment centers" in the average home? House are much bigger now. They have a/c, washer/dryer, microwaves, two refrigerators....

I'm talking about people who take the bus to get to work, who drop their kids off at the local church or pre-school program center so that they can have a free breakfast and... you're talking about entertainment centers.      

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No I'm not. The point is that everyone has limited choices and trade offs in life. I was a burger flipper because I couldn't get any other higher paying or better job. But I got work experience and an education and was able to advance in life. It is not someone else's responsibility to insure that I succeed and make a good living.


And that's your experience, which OK. Believe me, no one is going to get in the way of your wish to work 3 jobs and take 8 years to get an undergraduate degree. If you want to take the hard way up, be my guest. Now, if people want a different route, spare them your bullshit. It's their right. It's like saying "yeah, I'm dumb and I'm proud!". Well, the other 99.99% don't want to be as dumb as you.

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What don't I believe? What am I lying about?

A single job takes 7-9 hours of your time, depending on whether you take lunch or not (including commute). What you are saying is that you used to work between 21 and 24 hours per day, as well as go to school, presumably on a part time basis. At least this is what you intended to have people believe. I called your bluff and scored it with a bullshit. You lied, plain and simple.

What you were probably doing is working at the GAP on a part-time basis, then helping your uncle Luiggi at the pizza place on Saturdays and once in a while help your gumbah Vinnie with his DJ business. This is the reason I'm saying that most of you can't relate, because the arguments you are using are so far off the mark they percolate "I have idea what I'm talking about, but I'll say it real loud and with lots of cuss words and insults to make people turn away in disgust (which you take as an argumentative victory, and this is the sad part)".

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What do you mean people can't survive? How many people are dying on the streets because they are working minimum wage jobs? When I was 18 I was working seven days a week at two security guard jobs.

Oh, we've gone from 3 to 2 jobs now. Do you understand the lying part now?

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I live in a one room studio with no kitchen sink or over. I had a hot plate and did my dishes in the shower. But still I manage to survive and save up some money and move to the mainland where I had better opportunities. How many jobs have you provider for others? How many people have you enabled to make a good living. Nothing is easier than to require other people to do what you want and think they should do.

And that's OK, I've been saying this all along: If you want to take the hard and long way to the top, be my guest. You're certainly not impressing me.

How many jobs have I provided? Directly? Plenty. I pay for people to come over and take care of my trees, my gardens as well as other choirs. And I'm pretty sure my tax dollars easily employ two or three individuals. That's how I roll.

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Well, I can see compassion goes out the window quickly when someone disagrees with you. But don't worry. I've been in worse circumstance than you'll ever be and I survived without a handout from anyone.

See how you react differently when people thrown your own arguments back at you?

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #140 on: January 04, 2014, 09:33:04 PM »
WTF are these people doing with kids slapper if they cant afford them?


again a single person working full time getting minimum wage is above the poverty line........

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #141 on: January 04, 2014, 09:38:45 PM »
LMFAO trust me dousche bag I deal with the finances of people ten times more financially set then your dumb ass so you can take your made up fantasy and shove it straight up your ass.

Thats fine if you feel that way donate some of that monopoly money after your done playing with your mom to them. DO NOT feel like your opinons on their fuck ups should extend to my pockets or the pockets of anyone elses

Dude, five minutes with you and I'd get so far into your brain they'd eventually find you in some mental institution in Mexico, all curled up in a fetal position asking for your mother's tits.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #142 on: January 04, 2014, 09:39:12 PM »
WTF are these people doing with kids slapper if they cant afford them?


again a single person working full time getting minimum wage is above the poverty line........
minimum wage isnt designed to support a family anyway.  I have next to zero sympathy for people complaining about making minimum wage. If you have ANY marketable skill (hell even driving a fucking van) you can get a job making more than minimum wage.

Generally people make minimum wage because theyre too fucking lazy or incompetent to find other work. I realize there are exceptions but not nearly as much as people like to make out. Ive never known anyone to be 'trapped' in a minimum wage job.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #143 on: January 04, 2014, 09:39:54 PM »
How can you live this life of luxury with so many people starving and dying because they are working for minimum wage? You obviously have way more than enough. You can afford to pay more to others. Instead of requiring others to give more why don't you?

What I give away to charity on a yearly basis is worth more than the island where you're from.


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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #144 on: January 04, 2014, 09:44:18 PM »
Dude, five minutes with you and I'd get so far into your brain they'd eventually find you in some mental institution in Mexico, all curled up in a fetal position asking for your mother's tits.
sure you would champ, sure you would ;)

dont forget to throw in a hotel or two when donating that monopoly money to those people who made horrible life decisions.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #145 on: January 04, 2014, 09:46:33 PM »
sure you would champ, sure you would ;)

dont forget to throw in a hotel or two when donating that monopoly money to those people who made horrible life decisions.

Once I get them to increase the minimum wage I'll make sure those "people" get you a nice time share in Mexico... with your own money.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #146 on: January 04, 2014, 09:47:36 PM »
Once I get them to increase the minimum wage I'll make sure those "people" get you a nice time share in Mexico... with your own money.
haha, youre such a dick.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #147 on: January 04, 2014, 09:49:28 PM »
Once I get them to increase the minimum wage I'll make sure those "people" get you a nice time share in Mexico... with your own money.
well dont forget that helmet when you leave the house there champ.

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #148 on: January 04, 2014, 09:50:14 PM »
again a single person working full time getting minimum wage is above the poverty line........
and just in case you didnt see this ^^^^^^^^^

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Re: Minimum Wage - Depressing Numbers
« Reply #149 on: January 04, 2014, 09:56:47 PM »
end min wage