Happy Sunday

[SF1900]

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Now I know why he turned into a theist. :-o he needed religion to override the overwhelming guilt of posting such a picture!

[chaos]

Eh, I will pass. I do not need to experience any of the above experiences you have outlined. I prefer to live in the "ordinary" though I think the naturalistic world is pretty extraordinary. I don't need the metaphysical to experience the extraordinary. Every day I am alive I experience the extraordinary. Different experiences elicit different responses.

Hey, but if you want to believe in the metaphysical, more power to you! To each their own!

In other words you just trolled for 12 pages on a topic you don't really care about?

[FitnessFrenzy]

In other words you just trolled for 12 pages on a topic you don't really care about?

atheists and religious people will never have a fruitful discussion, so why spend 50 pages on Getbig on it?

[chaos]

atheists and religious people will never have a fruitful discussion, so why spend 50 pages on Getbig on it?

Exactly.

[Man of Steel]

I don't understand why it's so hard for some to believe that a person can feel genuine remorse about the things they've done and desire for others to set their own hearts right as well and share with those folks how he was able to come to terms with the things he's done in his own life and be set free from it.

Many keep saying he turned to God/religion for help "because of his disease" or "because of the terrible pictures he took" or "because of the terrible things he posted" or "because of the terrible acts he committed" or "because he felt so much guilt".....well.....YEAH!!

[SF1900]

Man of Steel, Tbombz said that we are sinning by watching certain movies or listening to certain types of music. What movies/televisions shows should we watch and what type of music should we listen to? Should we leave on the Christian channel and radio 24/7? 

[Man of Steel]

Man of Steel, Tbombz said that we are sinning by watching certain movies or listening to certain types of music. What movies/televisions shows should we watch and what type of music should we listen to? Should we leave on the Christian channel and radio 24/7?  

I'll let him answer that if he chooses, but I'd say the blatantly obvious tv to avoid is pornography.  People are still free to watch whatever they want.

I enjoy Christian tv and radio....it's not on 24/7 in my home, but it's on often.  I'd say 99% of the time Christian/gospel music in my truck.  

Still, not all secular materials are bad, sinful or anti-God.

Me personally I avoid the majority of tv and movies about the occult and Satanism.  I don't like to bring attention or glorify that stuff in my own life.

Again, people are free to watch whatever they want.  If you feel inside that something you're watching is not right then I'd stop watching it.

I'm not gonna run through the TV guide in this thread though.

[SF1900]

I'll let him answer that if he chooses, but I'd say the blatantly obvious tv to avoid is pornography.  People are free to watch whatever they want.

I enjoy Christian tv and radio....it's not on 24/7 in my home, but it's on often.  Not all secular materials are bad, sinful or anti-God.

Me personally I avoid the majority of tv and movies about the occult and Satanism.  I don't like to bring attention or glorify that stuff in my own life.

Again, people are free to watch whatever they want.  If you feel inside that something you're watching is not right then I'd stop watching it.

What about horror movies that deal with the supernatural? Like, movies about ghost hauntings. Would these  be considered movies about the occult? You don't watch those movies anymore?

But do you think God will care that you watched a movie about a ghost? What about the movie, "Ghost" with Patrick Swayze?

[Overload]

Ordinary claims require ordinary evidence (this statement in reference to the natural world/universe we live in).

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence (this statement in reference to the divine God of the bible).

You've now transcended naturalism with the addition given the discussion on God so the addition of "extra" is insufficient.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and are also subject to extraordinary providence that may require proactivity by examiners in order to receive special revelation of extraordinary evidence.

In other words the scientific method works for the natural world, but once you step into the divine you're on God's terms.   Refuse to submit to his will and you'll remain in the ordinary.

There is no God's terms, only what man has created and chose to believe in his own mind.

It's all based on faith in something that simply does not exist.

[Man of Steel]

What about horror movies that deal with the supernatural? Like, movies about ghost hauntings. Would these  be considered movies about the occult? You don't watch those movies anymore?

But do you think God will care that you watched a movie about a ghost? What about the movie, "Ghost" with Patrick Swayze?

The horror genre I don't watch anymore.  Ultra-violent stuff I often avoid too.  I just don't give my attention or glorify things that are overtly anti-God.  Fictional stuff depicting magical characters and all that I'm fine with, but if it digresses it overt demonic or anti-God stuff I'll probably turn the channel.

The movie Ghost I've seen before, but is it sinful to watch it?  I suppose that depends on how you respond to it.  There are depictions of heaven and hell in some scences, physic abilities (occultish in nature), etc....do I endorse it for Christians?  No.  Should they avoid it at all costs?  No. 

For believers I'd say follow how the Holy Spirit leads you.  I've started programs and turned them off within 5 minutes because it was foul or occultish or pornographic.  I didn't care to see all that and sometimes felt lead to turn the channel....it's a believer thing.

[Man of Steel]

There is no God's terms, only what man has created and chose to believe in his own mind.

It's all based on faith in something that simply does not exist.

Well, guess that settles that!

[SF1900]

The horror genre I don't watch anymore.  Ultra-violent stuff I often avoid too.  I just don't give my attention or glorify things that are overtly anti-God.  Fictional stuff depicting magical characters and all that I'm fine with, but if it digresses it overt demonic or anti-God stuff I'll probably turn the channel.

The movie Ghost I've seen before, but is it sinful to watch it?  I suppose that depends on how you respond to it.  There are depictions of heaven and hell in some scences, physic abilities (occultish in nature), etc....do I endorse it for Christians?  No.  Should they avoid it at all costs?  No. 

For believers I'd say follow how the Holy Spirit leads you.  I've started programs and turned them off within 5 minutes because it was foul or occultish or pornographic.  I didn't care to see all that and sometimes felt lead to turn the channel....it's a believer thing.

But that doesn't make sense. If the movie Ghost with Swayze depicts heaven and hell, isn't that an accurate representation of the bible (heaven and hell)? The depictions of heaven and hell in the movie capture where people will go when they die. I would think that religious people would LOVE movies that accurately depict their religion.

Also, you don't watch shows that depict physical abilities. Does that mean you do not like "The X-Files?" How can you not like Mulder and Scully?  

[Man of Steel]

But that doesn't make sense. If the movie Ghost with Swayze depicts heaven and hell, isn't that an accurate representation of the bible (heaven and hell)? The depictions of heaven and hell in the movie capture where people will go when they die. I would think that religious people would LOVE movies that accurately depict their religion.

Also, you don't watch shows that depict physical abilities. Does that mean you do not like "The X-Files?" How can you not like Mulder and Scully?  

It's a depiction yes.  Is it accurate?  No.  Not gonna waste time arguing over Ghost.

Like I said, do I endorse it for Christians?  No.  Should they avoid it at all costs?  No.

I told you what and how I avoid some things in general and I also said I'm not gonna run through the tv guide.

[SF1900]

It's a depiction yes.  Is it accurate?  No.  Not gonna waste time arguing over Ghost.

Like I said, do I endorse it for Christians?  No.  Should they avoid it at all costs?  No.

So, if I ever visited you at your home, you wouldn't watch Mulder and Scully solve some supernatural crimes with me? 

[BigRo]

what about the accounts of Jesus miracles, psychic prophecy etc should we avoid that too because it is occult?  

[Man of Steel]

So, if I ever visited you at your home, you wouldn't watch Mulder and Scully solve some supernatural crimes with me? 

LOL!!  I like the X-Files, but those episodes were they get occultish I'll probably not watch that.

[Man of Steel]

what about the accounts of Jesus miracles, psychic prophecy etc should we avoid that too because it is occult?  

I don't attribute the miracles of Christ or prophetic scripture to be part of the occult.

It was the Pharisees who attributed Christ's miracles to be sourced from demonic power and most everyone knows how that story ends.

[polychronopolous]

There was a time where anyone of you could of had this for 20 or 30 bucks if you so desired.

[BigRo]

I don't attribute the miracles of Christ or prophetic scripture to be part of the occult.

It was the Pharisees who attributed Christ's miracles to be sourced from demonic power and most everyone knows how that story ends.

but if someone else healed, read minds, levitated etc you would consider it occult (or in other words it seems, demonic) ? Is that not committing the same sin the Pharisees did? Or maybe not if it had the stamp of Christ/Christian on it like Saint Francis of Assisi?

[Man of Steel]

but if someone else healed, read minds, levitated etc you would consider it occult (or in other words it seems, demonic) ? Is that not committing the same sin the Pharisees did? Or maybe not if it had the stamp of Christ/Christian on it like Saint Francis of Assisi?

There are many Christians who receive words of knowledge from God and are used as conduits for God's power to heal.  Scripture indicates that in the end times "your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams".

Miracles within other faiths are absolutely demonic in nature even if that faith doesn't necessarily espouse demonology.

Spiritual warfare is ever-present and deceptive strategy is brilliantly employed via demonic miracles.  The enemy of God's greatest deception over mankind is that he (the enemy) does not exist.

Everything I'm posting now will seem even more ridiculous to most.....is what it is my friend.

[FitnessFrenzy]

There was a time where anyone of you could of had this for 20 or 30 bucks if you so desired.

That is a very reasonable price for that lamp.

[BigRo]

Miracles within other faiths are absolutely demonic in nature even if that faith doesn't necessarily espouse demonology.

says who? Jesus? Is Christ not all pervading? therefore His power could manifest through a tibetan buddhist as much as a born againer?

I think your still on the surface of the matter.

[polychronopolous]

That is a very reasonable price for that lamp.

It looks like a bra strap except it's on the back of his thong.

What's that all about?

[Man of Steel]

Miracles within other faiths are absolutely demonic in nature even if that faith doesn't necessarily espouse demonology.

says who? Jesus? Is Christ not all pervading? therefore His power could manifest through a tibetan buddhist as much as a born againer?

I think your still on the surface of the matter.

No, I would not say Jesus Christ is all pervading.  Jesus Christ is both fully divine and fully human and fully God, but that's not how his essence of God's triune nature expresses himself.

It's the Holy Spirit that indwells the believer who is saved by grace through faith in Christ's act on Calvary's cross.

So the question becomes is the tibetan buddhist a born again believer who faith rests solely in Christ's work on calvary's cross and thereby indwelt by the Holy Spirit and sanctified for God's will and purposes in their lives?

A demonic work can seem harmless on the surface so that those witnessing the miracle can be persuaded into both adopting the particular brand of faith and accepting it's "harmless nature".

Do I believe tibetan buddhists are inherently evil in nature?  Not at all.  I do believe they've been lead away from Christ's work on Calvary's cross though and in doing so "mission accomplished" by the enemy of this world.

[FitnessFrenzy]

It looks like a bra strap except it's on the back of his thong.

What's that all about?

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