The Mature thread

[njflex]

Sweet!

BETTER THAN SOUR!LOL,,THANKS KEN..OFF TODAY TRAINED SAT/SUN/MON NEED BREAK..

[Primemuscle]

-Saw my orthopedist today. Guess I am doing better then expected. It can take a year for the new formed cartilage to fully develop. The general weakness in my right leg is normal. The quad starts atrophying immediately following surgery. Doing the prescribed exercises helps keep the quad muscle viable, but one still loses strength apparently. Although I can't see it, the doctor says I still have some swelling in the joint.....not that joint....LOL!

Having sciatica complicates my recovery some, since it is hard to tell what is affected by this and what is a result of the knee surgery. I will just have to learn to live with the sciatica because no way do I intend to have my surgery on my spine.

Next Monday, I begin 8 weeks of physical therapy to help with my recovery. Lindsey, the physical therapist I've used in the past for back problems is great. If anyone will get me back in shape, it will be Lindsey. We'll be working on mobility/flexibility and strength along with the therapeutic advantages of ultrasound and massage.

I imagined I'd be back at it (working out) full-bore by now. Perhaps I was overreaching.

[Primemuscle]

Thanks Jay.....on a funny note my Mother said " you look like an ass"

What do mothers know? My mom had me dressing like a preppy kid before it was in style. When I was a freshman in high school, she wanted me to wear cords to school when all the other guys were wearing 501's. She thought jeans were for poor folks....much too working class she thought. Back in those days, my hair was always hanging in my eyes. I should be so lucky today. Come to think of it, my mom had a lot of silly ideas but she meant well.

[Primemuscle]

I trained 34 years natty....just decided to hop on gear 2 years ago. Most of the time I just run GH ( Seros) at 4iu ed on workout days and about 875 of pharma test per week. I throw in other stuff here and there but at my age the GH/Test just makes me feel great and the sex is better than 30 years ago. Running some Winny now but that is killing me but it was free. Some EQ also but that is going to BP issues. Going forward I think I will just run GH/Test and either Primo or Var. That's it.

Do you just play your PED use by ear? How do you know what is healthy and what is too much? What about your liver? Some people's livers are more affected by meds and such then others. I'm laughing at you saying that "Winny" is killing you, but that you are using it because it was free. If I gave you some free arsenic, would you use that too? Just saying.

[Wez]

Do you just play your PED use by ear? How do you know what is healthy and what is too much? What about your liver? Some people's livers are more affected by meds and such then others. I'm laughing at you saying that "Winny" is killing you, but that you are using it because it was free. If I gave you some free arsenic, would you use that too? Just saying.

Have blood work done 2X year.....Liver is fine just RBC count up. Only been running gear for 2 years and I am just now figuring out what works for me. You should be laughing at me about the Winny. I should throw it in the damn trash. I don't feel good but it is making me look great. In the end we are all a little OCD about our conditioning. For me now GH/Test/and either Primo or Var is what makes me look good and still feel good. Maybe EQ here and there but I am about done with that too. Arsenic eh? haven't tried that!

[Wez]

Trained arms today with my Bride.....4iu Seros and 100mg Winny (PM no laughing)

Barbell curl 21's  ss with rope pushdowns 3 sets
Arnold concentration curls ss with DB incline extensions 3 sets
Hammer curls ss with overhead cable extensions 3 sets
Machine preachers ss with dip machine 2 sets

[Mr Nobody]

What do mothers know? My mom had me dressing like a preppy kid before it was in style. When I was a freshman in high school, she wanted me to wear cords to school when all the other guys were wearing 501's. She thought jeans were for poor folks....much to working class she thought. Back in those days, my hair was always hanging in my eyes. I should be so lucky today. Come to think of it, my mom had a lot of silly ideas but she meant well.

Wow how times change but styles always come back around strange isn't it. Usually it takes about 20 years.

[Primemuscle]

Totally, my wife knows everything....much easier that way.

I just explained to my wife why I was using HCG to insure my one real testicle didn't become a raisin. I think I totally lost her. I looked over at her and the expression on her face was "whatever" you are a nut job.

[Primemuscle]

Keep doing what you're doing, it's obviously working

BOOM!

Donny is the man you jerkwad.

[Donny]

Thanks Jay... so today i just did some interval Training and Abs/calfes. Any thoughts on this Routine below...?

Mon+Friday

Bench press 5x5
Overhead press 5x5
Rows(BB) 5x10
BB curls 3x10

Wed

Dips 5x max(Bodyweight)
chins 5xmax(Bodyweight)
Squats 2x20(Breathing squats)
Deadlifts 2x10

[Wez]

Thanks Jay... so today i just did some interval Training and Abs/calfes. Any thoughts on this Routine below...?

Mon+Friday

Bench press 5x5
Overhead press 5x5
Rows(BB) 5x10
BB curls 3x10

Wed

Dips 5x max(Bodyweight)
chins 5xmax(Bodyweight)
Squats 2x20(Breathing squats)
Deadlifts 2x10

Now that's old school lifting!

[Donny]

yes i was Surfing and come across a site with some old Gems. Everyone knows 5x5 and Basics work but i am thinking of doing this for a Change... might dip 2x a week and bench 1x a week and i would do incline press...

[Donny]

good solid routines..
http://workout-routines.net/category/lifters/

[Wez]

I love those basic routines. I just can't handle the low rep stuff any more...too many years PL. I stay in the 10-20 range now and have never felt better.

[Donny]

I love those basic routines. I just can't handle the low rep stuff any more...too many years PL. I stay in the 10-20 range now and have never felt better.

i normally like more reps myself but like working out less. I suppose as you Americanos say Bang for your Bucks. I do not like the Heavy Duty Thing but like the look of this. i have also trained 5 Days and it it works very well. Due to work and other things i find it hard to fit it all in. I like to do cardio and i like a day free to do it. it will be hard not to do flys. laterals as i also believe the muscle should be hit from every angle. still we will see....

[Wez]

Leg day......100mg Winny/250m EQ/300mg Sustanon/4iu Seros

Leg Extensions 8 sets 50 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Curls 8 sets 25 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Press 4 sets up to 12 plates

Standing Calf....super slow reps ( 30 sec up/30sec down) 3 sets
Seated Calf....same

Rope pulldown kneeling abs 5 sets

[njflex]

Leg day......100mg Winny/250m EQ/300mg Sustanon/4iu Seros

Leg Extensions 8 sets 50 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Curls 8 sets 25 reps down to 8 reps
Leg Press 4 sets up to 12 plates

Standing Calf....super slow reps ( 30 sec up/30sec down) 3 sets
Seated Calf....same

Rope pulldown kneeling abs 5 sets

ON THE LEG PRESS KEN IS THAT 12 PLATES TOTAL MEANING 6 PER SIDE OR IS IT 12 PLATES PER SIDE 24 TOTAL ...USUALLY I DO TOTAL 14/16 PLATES 7/8 PER SIDE.DEPENDING ON LEG PRESS BACK IN DAY I HIT 10 PLATES PER SIDE AGAIN EACH LEG PRESS IS DIFFERENT..

[Wez]

ON THE LEG PRESS KEN IS THAT 12 PLATES TOTAL MEANING 6 PER SIDE OR IS IT 12 PLATES PER SIDE 24 TOTAL ...USUALLY I DO TOTAL 14/16 PLATES 7/8 PER SIDE.DEPENDING ON LEG PRESS BACK IN DAY I HIT 10 PLATES PER SIDE AGAIN EACH LEG PRESS IS DIFFERENT..

You flatter me that's 6 per side.....the most I have gone is 8 per side.

[njflex]

You flatter me that's 6 per side.....the most I have gone is 8 per side.

..have to ask and give benefit before doubt,still great lift.leg press is easily biggest ego inflator exercise ,I see guys load it 9/10 plates per side and bend there knees 1/4 inch and do 8 and come off machine limping ,i'm like  ...try doing 5 plates per side knees to chest 20 reps then partner goes then u hop back in ,after 3 x around your toast.

[Wez]

..have to ask and give benefit before doubt,still great lift.leg press is easily biggest ego inflator exercise ,I see guys load it 9/10 plates per side and bend there knees 1/4 inch and do 8 and come off machine limping ,i'm like  ...try doing 5 plates per side knees to chest 20 reps then partner goes then u hop back in ,after 3 x around your toast.

Yea I hate that too....I see kids loading up the bench and doing half reps, squats that look like good mornings and rows that look like DLs. Last night during arms some fat teenager was doing half squats with 95 lbs grunting like he was getting fucked by a horse or something. My little wife comes in puts 135 on the bar and does 10 perfect below parallel reps while I stared at the kid. My wife secretly enjoyed it!

[njflex]

back
chins x3 sets 12-15
bent over rows 185,205/225 12/10/10
low row machine chest to pad seated 175/190/200
single arm db row.85/90/95
standing pulldown pull bar into waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
seated curl machine x3
db curls 35/40/45
standing barbell curls x4 85/95/95/75 10/10/10/15

abs

[Primemuscle]

back
chins x3 sets 12-15
bent over rows 185,205/225 12/10/10
low row machine chest to pad seated 175/190/200
single arm db row.85/90/95
standing pulldown pull bar into waist x3

weighted hypers x3

bi's
seated curl machine x3
db curls 35/40/45
standing barbell curls x4 85/95/95/75 10/10/10/15

abs

Keep on trucking.

I was depressed all day. Something needs to change and change fast. I cannot go on like this. It sucks.

My day: slept until 11:00 a.m. because there was no real reason to get out of bed. Got up, showered, weighed myself, ate breakfast and then sat down at the computer to write a couple of articles I needed to get in today. Watched my wife sleeping in the living room most of the day and wonder if this was me in the future. my knee was okay, not great. The sciatica was acting up making it difficult for me to walk. Like a cripple, I brought in the empty garbage cans after the trash was picked up, limped down the driveway to pick up the mail, limped down the driveway to get the paper. I could go on but writing this is depressing me even more.

[Donny]

Keep on trucking.

I was depressed all day. Something needs to change and change fast. I cannot go on like this. It sucks.

My day: slept until 11:00 a.m. because there was no real reason to get out of bed. Got up, showered, weighed myself, ate breakfast and then sat down at the computer to write a couple of articles I needed to get in today. Watched my wife sleeping in the living room most of the day and wonder if this was me in the future. my knee was okay, not great. The sciatica was acting up making it difficult for me to walk. Like a cripple, I brought in the empty garbage cans after the trash was picked up, limped down the driveway to pick up the mail, limped down the driveway to get the paper. I could go on but writing this is depressing me even more.

maybe you and your wife should just spur of the Moment do something totally new. go see something you always dreamed about as a kid... maybe you do not Need to travel far. I have always wanted to travel to Japan. Train in Yoshinkan Aikido or Daito Ryu Aiki Jutsu. meet a sweet Little Japanese woman introduce me to the secrets of the orient

[njflex]

WEZ?

[Wez]

WEZ?

Is it bad? I needed a fun pirate name.

Delts/Traps 100mg Winny/4iu Seros

Up and down the rack DB laterals 10/15/20/25/30/35/40 then 40/30/20/10 2X
Smith machine Front Press 95X15 125X10 145X10 drop set 195X6 145X8 95X8
Cable side laterals 2 sets
Incline rear DB raises ss with pulls to the face 3 sets
Front raises w EZ curl ala Jay....3 sets
DB shrugs 4 sets 55/65/75/85