rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?

[Simple Simon]

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

Would you care to lay out what you believe happened and the evidence to substantiate that claim?


Take your time


("Something doesn't look right" isn't an acceptable answer.)

[M4tad0r]

once again completely wrong.

At least you are "consistently" wrong.

Still waiting for the full explanation according to the official 9/11 conspiracy commission report.

[M4tad0r]

Would you care to lay out what you believe happened and the evidence to substantiate that claim?


Take your time


("Something doesn't look right" isn't an acceptable answer.)

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

What part of the sentence above is not clear to you? Is it not the official story? Case close I guess.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Took 20 minutes to go through this thread and this is what I came up with

As of May 2, ROPO has 75 posts in this thread

Here's a list of a few key words he's used and how many times he's used them in this thread. You can't make this shit up. He's a fucking robot...

Foil Hat---47 times
Moron  ---41 times
Stupid  ---28 times
Idiot    ---27 times
Imbecile---12 times
Lies      ---  8 times
Insane ---  8 times
Dumb  ---  6 times
Mental  --- 7 times
Drooling--- 6 times
Retard   --- 6 times
Crazy    ---  6 times
Lunatic   --- 5 times

[OzmO]

Still waiting for the full explanation according to the official 9/11 conspiracy commission report.

Its been available to you for a long time in addition to others

[OzmO]

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

What part of the sentence above is not clear to you? Is it not the official story? Case close I guess.

once again wrong, and shows you didn't read the report.

It would be nice if you could get something right.

I'd bet some of not most of those hijackers are more educated than you are.

Judging from your extreme lack of critical thinking I am probably right.

[OzmO]

Took 20 minutes to go through this thread and this is what I came up with

As of May 2, ROPO has 75 posts in this thread

Here's a list of a few key words he's used and how many times he's used them in this thread. You can't make this shit up. He's a fucking robot...

Foil Hat---47 times
Moron  ---41 times
Stupid  ---28 times
Idiot    ---27 times
Imbecile---12 times
Lies      ---  8 times
Insane ---  8 times
Dumb  ---  6 times
Mental  --- 7 times
Drooling--- 6 times
Retard   --- 6 times
Crazy    ---  6 times
Lunatic   --- 5 times

Nah, he ad-homs in response to the lunacy, flawed logic, baseless conjecture and ignorance of CT'ers.

Also there is name calling and attacks from both parties.

[chaos]

Took 20 minutes to go through this thread and this is what I came up with

As of May 2, ROPO has 75 posts in this thread

Here's a list of a few key words he's used and how many times he's used them in this thread. You can't make this shit up. He's a fucking robot...

Foil Hat---47 times
Moron  ---41 times
Stupid  ---28 times
Idiot    ---27 times
Imbecile---12 times
Lies      ---  8 times
Insane ---  8 times
Dumb  ---  6 times
Mental  --- 7 times
Drooling--- 6 times
Retard   --- 6 times
Crazy    ---  6 times
Lunatic   --- 5 times

Fuckin waste of 20 minutes right there.

[thebrink]

Yes engineers grow on trees in abundance. A few thousand engineers and architects questioning the official 911 story is a big deal. And no they are not crackpots - you're reaching here Ozmo. Maybe you're the crackpot for believing 19 cave dwellers pulled off this 911 stunt?? I've said this before to Ropo and now you Ozmo. You're a tinfoil hat CT'er for believing the official fairy tail. And I would venture that you're probably also either very naive or not very bright if you insist on repeating the official crackpot narrative.

They are more like coincidence theorists it's unreal how far they'll go to defend goverment stop at nothing.

[Las Vegas]

As I have told here dozens of times, there is obvious problems with that "video surveillance from a dozen businesses in the surrounding area" because those cameras are there for the security of the business, not for the Pentagon. Please show me even one security cam which has been installed for the security of some neighbor? "We have this security camera, but instead of security of our business, we use it to film people going in an out from Pentagon"? What a genius..

What about parts of the sky, though?

[lilhawk1]

So people really believe that the most secure building on US soil only had one surveillance camera that showed that side of the building that day?  Really?  You'd have to be simply retarded to think there is only one single camera with a shitty view that captured the missile hit the pentagon.  If it was a jet, it would have been shot down.  There is a defense system that protects the Pentagon against that very thing happening.  My God people are naive...  That video footage was released from that camera because it sucked, and doesn't give a clear view of what actually hit the Pentagon.  It sure appeased all the idiots that can't see beyond the spoon fed shit they're given to eat by the government though.

[Ropo]

So IYO thousands of gallons of fuel spilling out with nowhere else to go but the shafts, and being ignited in the form of millions of droplets, will do everything else but meet the definition of explosion.  Got it.

Ask yourself, where are the visual indicators of the explosions, because there is a clear difference between the firecracker and the explosion. I have posted examples, and if you still don't know how the explosions look like, I can't force you to learn it. You see, truth can be found also in the details what are missing. When you see the video about the car bomb, you have no doubt that the blast cloud which appears in nanoseconds wouldn't be the outcome of the explosion. Why you don't see anything appearing in nanoseconds at the WTC? Because there isn't any explosions, that's why. There isn't any way to hide explosions, there is always visual indicators you can't miss. And you have to always remember, that this is only a tiny bit of the foil hat stupidity, because all of the videos prove that collapse start from the area which was hit by the aeroplane. So What? So these foil hat guys are stupid enough to claim, that you could prepare massive charge of explosives weeks before, hide it, crash an aeroplane in it, let it burn 56 minutes, and then detonate it and make the towers collapse. All explosives are based on chemical reaction, and all chemicals react to fire, so there isn't really no way that would or could be possible.

[Ropo]

This individual proves again what type of goverment shill he is, the types of lies that he posts here, and just the amount of respons that no normal people would bother on a simple website like Getbig. But some how we(americans) are to believe a retarded inbreed from Finland is going the distance to proves us wrong.

Good, obvious all his answers will take some time to dismantle but we will start with building 7.

Facts:

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex. Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers. Neither did the building to it's right or the building to it's left suffer any major damage and suffer any fires, still been next to bulding7 and acroos the street from the Twin Towers.

The total collapse of WTC 7 in 6.5 seconds at free fall acceleration (NIST admits 2.25 seconds). Larry Silverstein used the term “Pull it”. Steel framed high rise buildings have NEVER totally collapsed from fire or structural damage. Builidng 7 was not hit by a plane. ‘Building 7’, ‘WTC 7’.

If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.

Building 7’s collapse was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

In May 2002, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) issued a report on the collapse based on a preliminary investigation conducted jointly with the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers under leadership of Dr. W. Gene Corley, P.E. FEMA made preliminary findings that the collapse was not primarily caused by actual impact damage from the collapse of 1 WTC and 2 WTC but by fires on multiple stories ignited by debris from the other two towers that continued burning unabated due to lack of water for sprinklers or manual firefighting. The report did not reach conclusions about the cause of the collapse and called for further investigation.[26]

 It took the federal government seven years to conduct an investigation and issue a report for Building 7. 7 years to cook up the official story, which took less than 1 year for the official conspiracy report on 9/11.

In November 2008, NIST released its final report on the causes of the collapse of 7 World Trade Center.[7] This followed NIST's August 21, 2008, draft report which included a period for public comments.[8] In its investigation, NIST utilized ANSYS to model events leading up to collapse initiation and LS-DYNA models to simulate the global response to the initiating events.[52] NIST determined that diesel fuel did not play an important role, nor did the structural damage from the collapse of the Twin Towers or the transfer elements (trusses, girders, and cantilever overhangs). The lack of water to fight the fire was an important factor. The fires burned out of control during the afternoon, causing floor beams near column 79 to expand and push a key girder off its seat, triggering the floors to fail around column 79 on Floors 8 to 14. With a loss of lateral support across nine floors, column 79 buckled – pulling the east penthouse and nearby columns down with it. With the buckling of these critical columns, the collapse then progressed east-to-west across the core, ultimately overloading the perimeter support, which buckled between Floors 7 and 17, causing the remaining portion of the building above to fall downward as a single unit. The fires, fueled by office contents, along with the lack of water, were the key reasons for the collapse. First time in history, by the way.

In addition to the Twin Towers and Building 7, the World Trade Center complex included buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6. Compared to Building 7, all of these buildings were severely damaged, first by falling rubble from the tower collapses, then by fires that burned for hours. Although these buildings were in critical condition, none of them collapsed.

Facts with pictures below, you imbecile piece of shit,  which I will own like the other retards who have blindly believed the official conspiracy report on 9/11 from our beloved crooked goverment.

http://www.wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5_files/fig-5-26.jpg

http://rememberbuilding7.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/wtc-building-7-map_22.jpg

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FfR5NN.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fskeptics.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F1368%2Fon-9-11-was-building-7-destroyed-in-a-controlled-explosion&docid=33Rar28hzi4l1M&tbnid=bcz_bhErd8f1TM%3A&w=2070&h=1656&bih=993&biw=1920&ved=0ahUKEwjXoqTlibzMAhUGJx4KHejuBf0QMwhNKCYwJg&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indymedia.org.uk%2Fimages%2F2010%2F09%2F457945.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fb%2Fthread%2F2057150936&docid=zacXhQFWv7xlyM&tbnid=3XaVoU5CpYmiHM%3A&w=594&h=390&bih=993&biw=1920&ved=0ahUKEwjXoqTlibzMAhUGJx4KHejuBf0QMwhTKCwwLA&iact=mrc&uact=8#h=390&w=594

Why all this irrelevant nonsense? All you have to do, is prove there were explosion in the WTC towers, so please show even one from any video filmed that day? If some of the foil hats would have been able to do it, there wouldn't be this thread at all, so why don't you prove it? Why don't you even try? What kind of moron you are, because it would be by far the easiest way to prove the conspiracy? So why it doesn't happen? BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY EXPLOSIONS. That is the only reason, and you can't prove otherwise, no matter how much you cry and scream. So, now, when no one have no doubt that you are an idiot, what next? 

[Ropo]

Don't you worry Ropo the retard inbreed form Finland, I'm cumming for you!!!

Fixed..

And why all this irrelevant nonsense? All you have to do, is prove there were explosion in the WTC towers, so please show even one from any video filmed that day? If some of the foil hats would have been able to do it, there wouldn't be this thread at all, so why don't you prove it? Why don't you even try? What kind of moron you are, because it would be by far the easiest way to prove the conspiracy? So why it doesn't happen? BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY EXPLOSIONS. That is the only reason, and you can't prove otherwise, no matter how much you cry and scream. So, now, when no one have no doubt that you are an idiot, what next?   

[Ropo]

In the next video posted below, go to the minute 6:12 if you want to hear the explosions while the twin tower was blowing up in it's way down, you retarded lying piece of shit.

So you are saying that the sound of floors hitting each other during the collapse is a sound of explosions, and you try to prove it by showing dust cloud which is hanging downwards, flowing without any kind of bursts, nothing flashing and even the windows shattering only by the floors pressing them in the pieces? Please, go and kill yourself, you are too stupid to be alive. Where is the dust clouds and debris flashing out from the building horizontally, which you can clearly see in any controlled demolition, even when they are covered with blasting mats to protect bystanders? You can't answer, because you can't copy paste that answer anywhere, and you don't have the brains to answer yourself 

[Simple Simon]

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

What part of the sentence above is not clear to you? Is it not the official story? Case close I guess.

So you have no idea.

Yep, thought so.
The people who dont believe the official story never seem to have an opinion on what they believe happened and there is a very good reason for that.
They dont give an opinion because they have nothing to back it up when questioned.

Thanks for playing.

[Simple Simon]

Took 20 minutes to go through this thread and this is what I came up with

As of May 2, ROPO has 75 posts in this thread

Here's a list of a few key words he's used and how many times he's used them in this thread. You can't make this shit up. He's a fucking robot...

Foil Hat---47 times
Moron  ---41 times
Stupid  ---28 times
Idiot    ---27 times
Imbecile---12 times
Lies      ---  8 times
Insane ---  8 times
Dumb  ---  6 times
Mental  --- 7 times
Drooling--- 6 times
Retard   --- 6 times
Crazy    ---  6 times
Lunatic   --- 5 times

and robots dont make mistakes.

[Ropo]

Every time you post proves us your room temperature IQ

Those 15 floors only have the strength of the equivalent 15 floors below it,  which means if it really started to collapse because of the loss of strength in it's support columns, by floor 80th it would have lost it's strength or kinetic energy, do you understand the laws of physic now, you imbecile, for every action there is a reaction, if the 15 floors above where the plane hit, started pushing down, the rest of the 95 floors would push back, and by it would offer the most resistance to stop the implosion. Hard to argue with scientific facts.

The implosion did not stop at the 80th, 70th, or 60th floor, it continue all the way down to the fucking base at almost the speed of gravity without showing any resistance. Two of the tallest building in the World collapsed  in seconds due to office and fuel fire. Let that sink in you moronic piece of shill.

The planes where like aluminium tin cans thrown against a wall. . The towers where engineered to withstand such occurrence. Aluminium does not cut through steel. Video proof below:

And as we all know, that has nothing to do with the fact, that you can't prove even one explosion at the WTC towers. Why you waste your time with that crap, while the most important evidence is still missing? If there isn't explosions, there isn't conspiracy. Just repeat that until you understand the meaning of those words..

[Ropo]

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

Same goat shepherds who kick Russians out from the Afganistan, and their leader Osama, net worth +300 000 000$. And exactly what multi billion dollar defense system you are talking about? Did you have at the 2001 some kind of defense system against passenger jets?

In the Finnish language we have a term "myötähäpeä", which doesn't have equivalent in English language. Definition of the term is quite simple, it means a sense of shame you feel on someone else’s behalf, like you feel shame when your drunken mother sucks your uncle's cock in the middle of the family barbeque. These "thoughts" of yours make me shame that we live on the same planet, I have a quite strong myötähäpeä towards you just now 

[Ropo]

If You Seek TRUTH, WATCH THIS insane crap and realize, that this isn't it..

ps.

While I am genius and able to see the truth about any matter, my IQ isn't high enough to link these YouTube- videos, so fuck you all..

Fixed..

[Ropo]

The whole building wouldn't collapse evenly like it did.... Part of the building would crumble.. Anybody with a shred of intelligence knows this.. Also Larry Silverstein said they 'pulled' the building, which means it was demolished... Where is it standard practice to rig buildings for controlled demolition when they're built?  It's not.. They didn't dig it that day either...planned event, period...

How exactly you know that? WTC towers were first two buildings which collapsed because of the attack by the passenger jets, so how do you know? First two 400 meters high skyscrapers which has collapsed on this planet, so how can you know? For real? If someone say that knowing this is possible, he is lying, because on this planet isn't even one person who could know it. Best what you or anybody else can do, is IMAGINE how it should go, and that is only way there is. So if all these people imagine how these buildings should collapse, will it prove anything?

Let see:

1. there is crash of the aeroplane
2. crash start a fire
3. fire heated steel and it's strength fails
4. Tower collapses


So if we skip 1 and 2, what would be outcome? No fire, no collapse. If we skip 2 and 3? Crash, no fire, no heated steel, no collapse. etc. Only if you include all the variables, you could know that outcome would be same. Quite simple. So why people claims that they know buildings couldn't collapse like that? They don't think about facts, they use their feelings as a fact. Would you trust the specialist who tell you that he imagine that those towers can't collapse like that? No one would trust him, no matter that he is telling the truth, so they have to say they know, knowing that it is a lie. Truth is that no one could know it before it has happen, because no one has seen anything like it in the history of this planet.

[Ropo]

On the video below you can check what a partial collapse look like due to fire:

 

Facts:

Around midnight, on Saturday, February 12, 2005, a fire was detected on the 21st floor. The fire spread quickly throughout the entire building, leading to the collapse of the outermost, steel parts of the upper floors; firefighters needed almost 24 hours to extinguish it. While seven firefighters were injured, nobody was killed in the fire, which was arguably the worst in Madrid's history. The fire was blamed on an electrical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tower

And this building was only 31 floors tall, the twin towers were 115 floors tall, two of the biggest buildings in the world, and they collapse in seconds due to fire.

How many airplanes size of 767 has crashed in these buildings? How many tons of kerosene there was burning, is the structure identic with the WTC towers, what was the fire load of the building? Just a random crap with nothing to do with the matter, as you always have linked here? Cut the crap, show me the explosions or name even one reason why you don't do it? Your whole conspiracy theory starts from those explosions which start collapse of twin towers, so why in the name of hell you do any fucking thing possible BUT not even try to prove there was explosions? Will there be any need for better evidence for the absence of the explosions, than your incompetence to prove there was any? Do anybody need a prove better than that? Would it be even possible to present prove better than your incompetence to show any evidence at all?

[Ropo]

Still waiting for the full explanation according to the official 9/11 conspiracy commission report.

Why? It has been in the internet for years now, and during these years foil hat morons like yourself, haven't been able to show any counterevidence to prove the report faulty at any way. You see, world is full with morons and claims, but reality is unfortunately based on the evidence, and while you and the foil hat morons haven't any, you have loose this battle already. You just are too fucking morons to realize that, and whose fault is that? Blame your parents, because the mental handicap like you have is hereditary 

[Ropo]

Took 20 minutes to go through this thread and this is what I came up with

As of May 2, ROPO has 75 posts in this thread

Here's a list of a few key words he's used and how many times he's used them in this thread. You can't make this shit up. He's a fucking robot...

Foil Hat---47 times
Moron  ---41 times
Stupid  ---28 times
Idiot    ---27 times
Imbecile---12 times
Lies      ---  8 times
Insane ---  8 times
Dumb  ---  6 times
Mental  --- 7 times
Drooling--- 6 times
Retard   --- 6 times
Crazy    ---  6 times
Lunatic   --- 5 times

Why do you waste your energy to that, while all you need to do is prove that there were even one explosion at the WTC towers, from any video material filmed at 9.11.2001? And why all that hate while all what I have done is prove that your foil hat mentors are lying to you? I just call you guys what you have proved you are, so don't take it personally..I mean if you see the video where Rich Piana is slapping Jason Genova, what you will say? Piana slapped moron? Piana slapped this quite fine young gentleman Jason? Why would I do differently? If you doesn't want to be called a moron, why do you act like one? Why do you prove you are one, every single time you write something in here? It is up to you what people think about you, it is a reaction to things which you use to prove you are a moron 

[Las Vegas]

Ask yourself, where are the visual indicators of the explosions, because there is a clear difference between the firecracker and the explosion. I have posted examples, and if you still don't know how the explosions look like, I can't force you to learn it. You see, truth can be found also in the details what are missing. When you see the video about the car bomb, you have no doubt that the blast cloud which appears in nanoseconds wouldn't be the outcome of the explosion. Why you don't see anything appearing in nanoseconds at the WTC? Because there isn't any explosions, that's why. There isn't any way to hide explosions, there is always visual indicators you can't miss. And you have to always remember, that this is only a tiny bit of the foil hat stupidity, because all of the videos prove that collapse start from the area which was hit by the aeroplane. So What? So these foil hat guys are stupid enough to claim, that you could prepare massive charge of explosives weeks before, hide it, crash an aeroplane in it, let it burn 56 minutes, and then detonate it and make the towers collapse. All explosives are based on chemical reaction, and all chemicals react to fire, so there isn't really no way that would or could be possible.

Ignited droplets of fuel will continue to release their energy outward into the restricted space of the elevator shaft, and it will be every bit of a series of explosions.

You're just trying to protect your statement that there "were no explosions".

Making distinctions is about the best someone could hope for, because there is no denying that explosions happened and that it came with the territory.