rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?

[Ropo]

To suggest jet fuel can melt asbestos-fire-retardent clad steel beams is like saying a nice log would melt a stove.

That's why the foil hat idiots are the only party which claims that jet fuel melted steel beams = fact 1.
Mankind has have the ability to forge metals and steel with fire at least 3000 years, so it is a fact that you can forge steel with fire = fact 2
Jet fuel were just ignition, there were quite high fire load inside the building as furniture's, papers etc. = fact 3
There isn't any evidence about the melted steel what so ever, only foil hat bullshit and such. = fact 4

If you spray asbestos plaster to the steel beams and let them dry 30 years, and then hit them by  Boeing 767, will that plaster a) pulverize b) drop a way c) miraculously hang in the steel?

[Ropo]

Oh lying Ozmo, you poor child, can't deal with the reality you are alone in this thread, and every body has turn against you.

The only CT is you, who believe the lies from our Government.

The Government lied on that day.

Proof:
9/11 Incontrovertible Proof the Government is Lying

What we see in the video is a government employee just lying trough his teeth, claiming there was no melted steel on Ground Zero, then we see live testimony of witness that were there telling another story.

If he lied about something so simple, then that discredit the hole 9/11 report because it was base on the premise that jet and office fire melted steel that day and made 3 buildings come down into it's own footprint.

Which that makes you the biggest liar  for slandering people and defending the biggest lie told by the Government to date.

Yet another bullshit  video full of opinions, but empty of facts? When will you learn? Bullshit, opinions, claims & lies doesn't prove anything. Here is little piece of education for you:


http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/911conspiracytv/pc190018.jpg

Same piece of melted metal than in your video. Is it steel? Nope. It clearly is aluminum because of the color, and those steel ribbons which are hanging out from it. Melted steel is black, it has nothing in it to make those light colors what you see in the picture (link = better resolution).
If that would be melted steel, would there be any strings of steel hanging from it? Why those didn't melt as well, while that few tons of steel- piece would easily be hot enough to melt them?

Fiction vs. reality Pools of melted steel or fireman's and the flashlight, inspecting some poor corpse at the ruins. Why anyone would counterfeit a picture to make his point about the foil hat theory? That's why it is just fair to say that foil hats are idiots.

[Colossus_1986]

Yet another bullshit  video full of opinions, but empty of facts? When will you learn? Bullshit, opinions, claims & lies doesn't prove anything. Here is little piece of education for you:


http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu347/911conspiracytv/pc190018.jpg

Same piece of melted metal than in your video. Is it steel? Nope. It clearly is aluminum because of the color, and those steel ribbons which are hanging out from it. Melted steel is black, it has nothing in it to make those light colors what you see in the picture (link = better resolution).
If that would be melted steel, would there be any strings of steel hanging from it? Why those didn't melt as well, while that few tons of steel- piece would easily be hot enough to melt them?

Fiction vs. reality Pools of melted steel or fireman's and the flashlight, inspecting some poor corpse at the ruins. Why anyone would counterfeit a picture to make his point about the foil hat theory? That's why it is just fair to say that foil hats are idiots.

So then you agree that there were temperatures in there hot enough to melt, steel together. Yet the official narrative was that the fires were not hot enough to melt the steel, only to weaken it...

How is it that after the collapse, in the midst of all that rubble, dust etc, that the fires were able to get hotter? Let alone to burn over that temperature threshold  for 3 months straight...?

[OzmO]

So then you agree that there were temperatures in there hot enough to melt, steel together. Yet the official narrative was that the fires were not hot enough to melt the steel, only to weaken it...

How is it that after the collapse, in the midst of all that rubble, dust etc, that the fires were able to get hotter? Let alone to burn over that temperature threshold  for 3 months straight...?

That's been answered time and again.  Steel only needs to heat to certain point and will continue until it begin to burn and melt. 

Also there were many other metals in the WTCs and as fires burned there are pics of molten metal dropping.

[M4tad0r]

First you need couple of Boeing 767 filled with 20 tons of jet fuel. Then you need couple of suicide pilots who fly the planes to the buildings, and there you go. Every other way to do it take months of preparations by the group of ~50 professionals , tons of explosives and kilometers of detonation cord. Of course all this is common knowledge, which means you don't know it because you are an imbecile..

 Lol. WTC 7 was hit by planes?   Oh, no!!! It wasn't, but it got hit by tons of debris which non of you two retards can prove, but guess what? Here is a couple pictures that proves that theory to be false, moronic piece of shit, with an IQ lower than room temperature. Do you get it?

How many buildings did fell on 9/11 that weren't lease by Larry Silverstein? Who I may add leased the twin towers knowing they were full of asbestos and would have had to replace it costing him in the billions and 6 weeks prior 9/11 he double the  insurance against terrorist attacks? I will be waiting for the answer you imbecile little man.

[M4tad0r]

So when I do once what you do all the time it is somehow bad thing to do? All you ever need to do is prove those explosion in some 9/11 video, and this piece of information is only which is missing from this thread, which is 61 pages long? Every time I ask you to prove it, the answer is just bullshit not even near the subject. I can't argue facts because you don't have any, so what I did was pointing out yet another way to prove you are just an idiot. I didn't do it for you, I did it for other people who read this thread and understand what they read. When it is evident that you are just a moron, they know that you are complete harmless and know how to react your ranting. That's all, little child, so when we will see your evidence about the explosions? Why don't we talk about that, because it is a vital detail which is missing and unproved in your theory? Why don't you want to talk about that? BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL. Simple truth  

If it wasn't investigated to begin with how di Fuck can I prove anything from my house you piece of shit, how dumb are you? That you keep coming back with the same rederick after all the information we have put up here from experts and witneses on 9/11.


Nano-thermite explosives shown above were gathered from the WTC debris shortly after the towers fell on 9/11.  Brigham Young University Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones, discovered the explosives and joined an international team of nine scientists for further analysis.  Through extensive laboratory testing, the scientists concluded that the samples were Nano-thermitic explosives.  After a rigorous peer-review process, their paper was published in the Bentham Chemical Physics Journal, which has been endorsed by Nobel Laureates and is respected within the scientific community.

http://investigate911.org/

[M4tad0r]

Official investigation is proved to be truth, period. There isn't even single evidence which would rise a reasonable doubt against it, because all what foil hats have is lies, rumors and bullshit, ridiculous and all sort of bullshit. Just read the thread from the beginning, or any other conspiracy thread from the another area. All you see is that bullshit, page after page, but not even one evidence. That's why official report remains to be a fact, and foil hats remains to be a morons 

FACTS on 9/11 you imbecile.

The commission never investigated for explosives.

The Bush Administration resisted the formation of the 9/11 Commission for 441 days. Similar Investigation, such as those for Pearl Harbor, The JFK Assassination, and The Space Shuttle Disasters, all started in about a week.

The WTC steel was quickly shipped overseas and melted down. This was an unprecedented violation of Federal Crime Scene Laws.

The Project for a New America Century(PNAC) requested "a new Peal Harbor" on September of
2000.

Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. Was reported dead in
December 2001.

The bullshit investigation was never set to find the truth, that's is why this movement has not died, and it grows every year. But of course you wouldn't know because you are a RETARDED INBREED FROM FINLAND that knows jack shit about the USA, does this get trough you? Obvious it will not, but we will preveal.

[OzmO]

Lol. WTC 7 was hit by planes?  Oh, no!!! It wasn't, but it got hit by tons of debris which non of you two retards can prove, but guess what?

Wrong as usual.




Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years

Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn't look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn't look good.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we'll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

________________________ ___________________

"...Captain Varriale told Chief Coloe and myself that 7 World Trade Center was badly damaged on the south side and definitely in danger of collapse. Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did."

"The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged [WTC Building 7]. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt."

________________________ __________________

Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
Division 1 - 33 years

...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o'clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

Firehouse: Was there heavy fire in there right away?

Hayden: No, not right away, and that's probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop. It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn't make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety.

________________________ ________________________

NYFD all part of your grand conspiracy eh? paranoid much?

[OzmO]

FACTS on 9/11 you imbecile.

The commission never investigated for explosives.

Wrong as usual.

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?
Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.
In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.
For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.

The Bush Administration resisted the formation of the 9/11 Commission for 441 days. Similar Investigation, such as those for Pearl Harbor, The JFK Assassination, and The Space Shuttle Disasters, all started in about a week.

The WTC steel was quickly shipped overseas and melted down. This was an unprecedented violation of Federal Crime Scene Laws.

The Project for a New America Century(PNAC) requested "a new Peal Harbor" on September of
2000.

Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. Was reported dead in
December 2001.

The bullshit investigation was never set to find the truth, that's is why this movement has not died, and it grows every year. But of course you wouldn't know because you are a RETARDED INBREED FROM FINLAND that knows jack shit about the USA, does this get trough you? Obvious it will not, but we will preveal.

More paranoid tin foil hattery 

[M4tad0r]

I am lost of words, so just fuck of, you moron. Normally, people who have blown out more than a half of their brains with the 44 magnum, would have enough living brain cells to understand that steel doesn't pulverize in the thin air by any kind of weapon, miracle etc. If USA would have such powers, would there be Russia? North Korea? It is a true shame to walk on same planet than morons like you are.

The only person who needs to fuck off from this thread is you, THE RETARDED INBREED FROM FINLAND who I keep owning, and the other troll and big time dishonest piece of shit Ozmo.

This video is non other than a theory which would explain the pulverization of the debris of the twin towers from a prestigious GERMAN magazine. Which last time I check is a way superior country than your silly bitch community of retarded northern Europeans in Finland, lol.






Ground Zero – Nuclear Demolition of the World Trade Center.
 
An improved English version of the scandalous article from the NEXUS German magazine.
 
11. September: Die dritte Wahrheit
 
 September 11 - The Third Truth.
(English version with additional videos and photos)

http://www.911thology.com/nexus1.html

Along with older English dictionaries, for the same reason, these photographs could also be used to show the molten rock left behind after the underground cavities were created by nuclear explosions under all three buildings of the World Trade Center. They eventually cooled down and were, at last, cleared of all remaining radioactive materials


 

[OzmO]

If it wasn't investigated to begin with how di Fuck can I prove anything from my house you piece of shit, how dumb are you? That you keep coming back with the same rederick information we have put up here here from experts and witneses on 9/11.


Nano-thermite explosives shown above were gathered from the WTC debris shortly after the towers fell on 9/11.  Brigham Young University Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones, discovered the explosives and joined an international team of nine scientists for further analysis.  Through extensive laboratory testing, the scientists concluded that the samples were Nano-thermitic explosives.  After a rigorous peer-review process, their paper was published in the Bentham Chemical Physics Journal, which has been endorsed by Nobel Laureates and is respected within the scientific community.

http://investigate911.org/

Wrong again.

Showed this on another post in the thread.

[OzmO]

The only person who needs to fuck off from this thread is you, THE RETARDED INBREED FROM FINLAND who I keep owing, and the other troll and big time dishonest piece of shit Ozmo.

This video is non other than a theory which would explain the pulverization of the debris of the twin towers from a prestigious GERMAN magazine. Which last time I check is a way superior country than your silly bitch community of retarded northern Europeans in Finland, lol.






Ground Zero – Nuclear Demolition of the World Trade Center.
 
An improved English version of the scandalous article from the NEXUS German magazine.
 
11. September: Die dritte Wahrheit
 
 September 11 - The Third Truth.
(English version with additional videos and photos)

http://www.911thology.com/nexus1.html

Along with older English dictionaries, for the same reason, these photographs could also be used to show the molten rock left behind after the underground cavities were created by nuclear explosions under all three buildings of the World Trade Center. They eventually cooled down and were, at last, cleared of all remaining radioactive materials


 

Probably the dumbest CT on 9/11  a Nuke!

Only idiots would listen to some Russian hack and teenage ass hat.

[OzmO]

the Truthers Teenage Ass Hat Messiah:

[M4tad0r]

Wrong as usual.

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?
Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.
In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.
For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.


More paranoid tin foil hattery 

Links for proof you idiot.

[OzmO]

Links for proof you idiot.

What for?

Wouldn't matter to your paranoid ass.  I have shown time and time again, with proof, pics, links, credible testimony on every facet or charge you dumb asses have made.  Your tinfoil hattery won't accept anything but your fantasy.

Was there audio of explosions?

NO.

Was there evidence of WTC 7, being prepare for the demolition?

NO


all you dumb asses have is you teen age ass hat messiah.

[M4tad0r]

Wrong again.

Showed this on another post in the thread.

With the lighter as a example? LOLOLOLOL. How can somebody be so stupid and keep posting after been owned into oblivion is beyond me. Keep trying.

By the way that article is from a Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones from Brigham Young University University which is more proof than your bullshit on 9/11 been main stream science back up by prestigious universities like MIT. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[OzmO]

With the lighter as a example? LOLOLOLOL. How can somebody be so stupid and keep posting after been owned into oblivion is beyond me. Keep trying.

By the way that article is from a Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones from Brigham Young University University which is more proof than your bullshit on 9/11 been main stream science back up by prestigious universities like MIT. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

The only that has been owned is the ENTIRE TRUTHER MOVEMENT.

You are the laughing stock of the world.

Worse than moonbots.

Go back a few pages and read the debunk of you dare.  I would love to hear your desperate justification of your grand conspiracy.

[OzmO]

the Truthers Teenage Ass Hat Messiah:

This young adult knows better than the rest of the world!

Just listen to him explain how a plane should hit the ground!

[M4tad0r]

Wrong as usual.




Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years

Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn't look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn't look good.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we'll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

________________________ ___________________

"...Captain Varriale told Chief Coloe and myself that 7 World Trade Center was badly damaged on the south side and definitely in danger of collapse. Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did."

"The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged [WTC Building 7]. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt."

________________________ __________________

Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
Division 1 - 33 years

...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o'clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

Firehouse: Was there heavy fire in there right away?

Hayden: No, not right away, and that's probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop. It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn't make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety.

________________________ ________________________

NYFD all part of your grand conspiracy eh? paranoid much?

If a lie is told many times, the village idiots tend to believe it many times. That was German propaganda way back during World World 2. And with you it shows in strides. No wonder you got owned by 240, but like always to stupid to come the realization of the type of CT you are. Keep trolling.


And it felt into it's own footprint after been only on fire for 8 hours:

[M4tad0r]

Probably the dumbest CT on 9/11  a Nuke!

Only idiots would listen to some Russian hack and teenage ass hat.

You must be one of those "flat earth" running around  in youtube I see.


Nuclear Demolition

Nuclear demolition, as a form of "controlled demolition", was first mooted towards the end of the 1960s when building code requirements made it necessary to provide satisfactory proposals for the eventual demolition of proposed modern tall steel frame buildings.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Nuclear_Demolition


All this is just theories, the underground thermonuclear theory does hold water when you go to account for all the mass that went missing from those buildings, such as the missing 260,000 thousand tons of steel beams. AND the fact that they did fall into their footprint (literally) and, no huge pile of debris like you would expect.  Sure looks like a mushroom cloud coming from the top of the building, as it fell. Also, no piece or remains of humans more than a couple inches square, nano-thermite can't do that.

But all this is pure speculation on my part.

[M4tad0r]

the Truthers Teenage Ass Hat Messiah:

This young adult knows better than the rest of the world!

Just listen to him explain how a plane should hit the ground!

Talking about intellectual dishonesty. That video proofed why the coroner on Shankville was lying through his teeth and how easy he got exposed.

He recanted his story because to him it was clear the terrorists killed the passenger.

How that fuck could he come to that conclusion if he did not see a drop of blood? Other than been told the story to which he had adhere to.

Shanksville Coroner: No Bodies Found at 9/11 'Crash' Site

Wallace Miller is the coroner of Somerset County, Pennsylvania. He was among the first people to arrive at the alleged Flight 93 crash site on the morning of 9/11.

He later recounted to the Washington Post what he’d seen when he first got there:

“I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002)

Since there were 44 people on board Flight 93, a crash site with “no bodies” makes no sense. Where were the victims? Something appears to have been seriously wrong. Yet Miller now seems to dispute his earlier claim.

In the recent BBC documentary 9/11: The Conspiracy Files, he explained:


“I said that I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes because it was perfectly clear what the cause and manner of death was gonna be.

"This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop."

It was a plane crash but yet it was a homicide because the terrorists hijacked the plane and killed the people, and the terrorists committed suicide.

“The 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. … Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks [after 9/11] were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002)

http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/shanksville-coroner-no-bodies-found-at.html

[M4tad0r]

That's why the foil hat idiots are the only party which claims that jet fuel melted steel beams = fact 1.
Mankind has have the ability to forge metals and steel with fire at least 3000 years, so it is a fact that you can forge steel with fire = fact 2
Jet fuel were just ignition, there were quite high fire load inside the building as furniture's, papers etc. = fact 3
There isn't any evidence about the melted steel what so ever, only foil hat bullshit and such. = fact 4

If you spray asbestos plaster to the steel beams and let them dry 30 years, and then hit them by  Boeing 767, will that plaster a) pulverize b) drop a way c) miraculously hang in the steel?

Above: profiles of the remaining core WTC columns found at “Ground Zero”; their comparative thickness can be easily estimated; actually they feature walls that are 2.5 inches thick; such thick columns made of steel constituted both – the cores and the entire perimeters of the Twin Towers.

 
 

[M4tad0r]

That's been answered time and again.  Steel only needs to heat to certain point and will continue until it begin to burn and melt.  

Also there were many other metals in the WTCs and as fires burned there are pics of molten metal dropping.

More intellectual dishonesty, comparing steel wool to the steel beams from the twin towers after been on fire for less than 2 hours.

[OzmO]

More intellectual dishonesty, comparing steel wool to the steel beams from the twin towers after been on fire for less than 2 hours.

I know, its hard for an idiot that follows a teenage ass hat messiah to understand how physics and chemistry works whether on large or small scales.

I can't blame you when your messiah doesn't even understand why a plane that crashes into the ground full of fuel at 400+ mph isn't sticking out of the ground like a lawn dart.

[OzmO]

You must be one of those "flat earth" running around  in youtube I see.


Nuclear Demolition

Nuclear demolition, as a form of "controlled demolition", was first mooted towards the end of the 1960s when building code requirements made it necessary to provide satisfactory proposals for the eventual demolition of proposed modern tall steel frame buildings.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Nuclear_Demolition

Probably the dumbest CT on 9/11  a Nuke!

Only idiots would listen to some Russian hack and teenage ass hat.

Embarrassing that your are a US citizen.  They should deport you.