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« Reply #225 on: March 11, 2008, 10:45:15 AM »
shoulders are mostly genetic, that and calves are my best bodyparts..
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« Reply #226 on: March 14, 2008, 04:48:01 PM »
Both baby hercules and jaejonna have good builds.   Natural is the way to go.  So many people are taking steroids and all types of drugs but they look terrible.  Why risk getting guts and deformed arms?  So many are mad because the natural who trains harder looks better in the end.

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« Reply #227 on: March 15, 2008, 01:48:58 AM »
Both baby hercules and jaejonna have good builds.   Natural is the way to go.  So many people are taking steroids and all types of drugs but they look terrible.  Why risk getting guts and deformed arms?  So many are mad because the natural who trains harder looks better in the end.

Ye, just take a look at the "natural" pro's and the real guys at the IFBB.  ::)

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« Reply #228 on: March 15, 2008, 09:24:52 AM »
shoulders are mostly genetic, that and calves are my best bodyparts..

Everything is genetic. Muscle size, structure, quality...genetic. Drug response, genetic. Metabolism, genetic. Bone structure, genetic. All genetic.

People need to stop talking about hard work because hard work is a given. I know lots of guys who bust their arse with diet and lifting and look totally average because of shitty genetics.

It's all genetics, drugs or no drugs.

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« Reply #229 on: March 15, 2008, 11:47:57 AM »
Everything is genetic. Muscle size, structure, quality...genetic. Drug response, genetic. Metabolism, genetic. Bone structure, genetic. All genetic.

People need to stop talking about hard work because hard work is a given. I know lots of guys who bust their arse with diet and lifting and look totally average because of shitty genetics.

It's all genetics, drugs or no drugs.


Hardwork and nutrition is a given, eh?

Fvcking idiot.
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« Reply #230 on: March 15, 2008, 04:51:11 PM »
Hardwork and nutrition is a given, eh?

Fvcking idiot.

For some people it is, Mr. Mo-Ham-Head. I was referring to people I know for whom it is a give but make few gains because of genetic limitations.
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« Reply #231 on: March 15, 2008, 05:10:16 PM »
Keep it civil children... this isn't the Y-board.


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« Reply #232 on: March 15, 2008, 05:14:36 PM »
For some people it is, Mr. Mo-Ham-Head. I was referring to people I know for whom it is a give but make few gains because of genetic limitations.
and among people I've seen there is a guy who blew up from 150 pounds to 190 pounds naturally because he got his diet and exercise in order...he is still lean w/ abs. Yea, some people have it easy, and others have to work harder. But everything isn't 'all genetics' as u claim, diet and exercise are a big big factor.

Like your obession with irrelevant topics, i don't think the 'all genetics' thing is going away anytime soon for ya  ;)
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« Reply #233 on: March 15, 2008, 05:19:00 PM »
Keep it civil children... this isn't the Y-board.


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Haider never keeps it civil. He invades my posts with childish, snide remarks all the time. I have offered him an opportunity to let it go and just keep it polite but he kept on about it so I am just repaying him in kind.
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« Reply #234 on: March 15, 2008, 05:20:30 PM »
and among people I've seen there is a guy who blew up from 150 pounds to 190 pounds naturally because he got his diet and exercise in order...he is still lean w/ abs. Yea, some people have it easy, and others have to work harder. But everything isn't 'all genetics' as u claim, diet and exercise are a big big factor.

Like your obession with irrelevant topics, i don't think the 'all genetics' thing is going away anytime soon for ya  ;)

My comment on all genetics presupposed proper diet and exercise. What don't you get about that kid?
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« Reply #235 on: March 15, 2008, 05:46:13 PM »
My comment on all genetics presupposed proper diet and exercise. What don't you get about that kid?
you clearly said it's all genetics, as a general statement; downplaying the role of diet and exercise like that's the "easy part".

btw, u need to calm the fvck down, it ain't all that serious. Saying that for the millionth time anyway.
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« Reply #236 on: March 15, 2008, 07:05:42 PM »
Haider,

Stop argument mongering.

Deicide has a good point that genetics can be a major deciding factor in bodybuilding success... natural trainers ALL train, eat and rest the same way... among successful natural trainees you have already filtered out those who don't train hard; don't eat right; don't rest properly... with all those variables being standardized, yes, genetics are the deciding factor.

If you don't agree with the blanket statement "all down to genetics", then please ask for clarification before resorting to personal attacks.



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« Reply #237 on: March 15, 2008, 07:32:28 PM »
Haider,

Stop argument mongering.

Deicide has a good point that genetics can be a major deciding factor in bodybuilding success... natural trainers ALL train, eat and rest the same way... among successful natural trainees you have already filtered out those who don't train hard; don't eat right; don't rest properly... with all those variables being standardized, yes, genetics are the deciding factor.

If you don't agree with the blanket statement "all down to genetics", then please ask for clarification before resorting to personal attacks.



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« Reply #238 on: March 15, 2008, 07:42:34 PM »
Dia Dhuit agus Tapadh leat!

...Tapadh leat?

Gaeilge? An bhfuil cupla focal agat?


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« Reply #239 on: March 15, 2008, 08:07:40 PM »
...Tapadh leat?

Gaeilge? An bhfuil cupla focal agat?


The Luke

Hmm...fucking mutation and Celtic languages....you got me...I would hazard a guess I fear it is wrong.

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« Reply #240 on: March 15, 2008, 08:17:30 PM »
Gaeilge? An bhfuil cupla focal agat?

translation:
"Irish? Are you an Irish speaker?"

That "Tapadh leat" is not Irish by the way, well not to the best of my knowledge.



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« Reply #241 on: March 15, 2008, 08:25:19 PM »
Haider,

Stop argument mongering.

Deicide has a good point that genetics can be a major deciding factor in bodybuilding success... natural trainers ALL train, eat and rest the same way... among successful natural trainees you have already filtered out those who don't train hard; don't eat right; don't rest properly... with all those variables being standardized, yes, genetics are the deciding factor.

If you don't agree with the blanket statement "all down to genetics", then please ask for clarification before resorting to personal attacks.



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there were no personal attacks, he clearly said "all genetics" as he has been in the past. Him backpeddling on his points is not my fault, I was merely defending the reason for my original reply.

I highly disagree with your contention that we all train and eat with the same discipline (in bold), or in a proper scientific manner (periodised training, lean bulking, etc.). The rest of your post isn't something I disagreed with at all.
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« Reply #242 on: March 15, 2008, 08:49:48 PM »
there were no personal attacks, he clearly said "all genetics" as he has been in the past. Him backpeddling on his points is not my fault, I was merely defending the reason for my original reply.

I highly disagree with your contention that we all train and eat with the same discipline (in bold), or in a proper scientific manner (periodised training, lean bulking, etc.). The rest of your post isn't something I disagreed with at all.

My post presupposed it. That was the point.
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« Reply #243 on: March 15, 2008, 09:05:51 PM »
My post presupposed it. That was the point.
why the fvck would u do that? I understood what you were saying, just didn't agree with why you would do such a thing, unless ofcourse you think the role of these two things are minimal.  :)
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« Reply #244 on: March 15, 2008, 09:07:26 PM »
why the fvck would u do that? I understood what you were saying, just didn't agree with why you would do such a thing, unless ofcourse you think the role of these two things are minimal.  :)

Obviously I think diet and training are essential, however given these factors, only superior genetics will prevail.
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« Reply #245 on: March 15, 2008, 09:14:27 PM »
Obviously I think diet and training are essential, however given these factors, only superior genetics will prevail.
you can't do anything about genetics, only what you eat and how you train. Stop whining  ;D
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« Reply #246 on: March 15, 2008, 09:20:56 PM »
you can't do anything about genetics, only what you eat and how you train. Stop whining  ;D

I am not whining. I have bad genetics when it comes to bodybuilding. I lift because I enjoy it as well as for philosophical reasons.
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« Reply #247 on: March 15, 2008, 09:26:33 PM »
I am not whining. I have bad genetics when it comes to bodybuilding. I lift because I enjoy it as well as for philosophical reasons.
i think you are, u keep bringing it up.

Speaking of reasons for lifting weights, I still haven't figured out mine. It's jsut kind of an obsession  ;D But I enjoy it  :)
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« Reply #248 on: March 15, 2008, 09:31:01 PM »
i think you are, u keep bringing it up.

Speaking of reasons for lifting weights, I still haven't figured out mine. It's jsut kind of an obsession  ;D But I enjoy it  :)

Stating facts does not equate to whining.

Do you have good genetics? I have never seen pics of you?
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« Reply #249 on: March 15, 2008, 09:49:30 PM »
Stating facts does not equate to whining.

Do you have good genetics? I have never seen pics of you?
Repeating them is, insisting over and over their improtance over hard work...i'd call that whining  :P

my genetics are fine, i guess my height sucks for bodybuilding and my chest is asymmetric (like i tore my right pec or something). I have good width, good quads (from a LOT of squatting), my traps grow from jsut deadlifting, but my calves suck (genetic ;D).
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