ADVANCED 3 Phase ripped to shreds program in 6 weeks- PHASE 2!!!!!!!

[NelsonMuntz]

If your honestly being serious about what your taking & passing that info on - That's Fair Enough.

As far as what you listed The amounts & Frequency of some of compounds & the number of different
Drugs are excessive - I don't see they are all necessary.
Maybe for you they are - Out of interest What level do you compete at.?

I'm currently helping a U.K. National level competitor 100kg Bodybuilding
& involved with a New to the IFBB 212 Competitor competing at The Arnold in Spain
& all going well he will qualify for the Olympia
( Expect Him to cause a bit of a stir in that class ) Becuse of the Top level Politics
Involved I will Check with him 1st before Naming him - As it's taken 3yrs for him to
Be allowed into the IFBB.

Neither of them are anywear Near Taking Anything Like That Kind of Doses & Number of Different Compounds.

Each to there own - I don't subscribe to the more is better Drug approach.
I start with very little & add in & change things as they progress or don't to achieve contest condition.

As for 3grams of Tren / 6grams of Test +++++ etc -  load of Bollocks - if using such amounts I can only think
That's it's totally Bunk Gear.

No doubt Ronnie / Marcus / Will Post & Prove Me totally Wrong.
There are those that do use some hideous amounts & look Great.

All of your points are what people tend to overlook

example, Samir Bannout won the 1983 Olympia weighing like 188lbs. Yeah I know guys that was 1983 blah blah blah. Tell me, how many here have weighed 188lbs or more cut at the same height/weight on several hundred mgs more of steroids plus other compounds they were not even yet using in 1983 and looked even near this today?

[bozo_the_rot]

All of your points are what people tend to overlook

example, Samir Bannout won the 1983 Olympia weighing like 188lbs. Yeah I know guys that was 1983 blah blah blah. Tell me, how many here have weighed 188lbs or more cut at the same height/weight on several hundred mgs more of steroids plus other compounds they were not even yet using in 1983 and looked even near this today?

Do you realize the doses here listed are child's play? And very very mild? Mr. Illuminati I think would agree with me with the dosages here listed are low. He knows they are. He knows the game.

[Simple Simon]

Dorian has stated that he couldnt take more than three vials a week of the old Trenbolone back in the 90s because of the back pumps., that was 76mgs per 1-5ml shots

gear today is 90% underdosed shit, and Americans use most of it.

[bozo_the_rot]

Dorian has stated that he couldnt take more than three vials a week of the old Trenbolone back in the 90s because of the back pumps., that was 76mgs per 1-5ml shots

gear today is 90% underdosed shit, and Americans use most of it.

Dorian was my favorite.
His mentality impressed me more than his physique

[Simple Simon]

Dorian was my favorite.
His mentality impressed me more than his physique

i know
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=624405.0
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=622949.0

How dare you compare him to Dorian does Roelly know anything about dry granite condition please behave yourself.

Dorian yates is retired living in spain  doing yoga and riding his bicycle these days.

[bozo_the_rot]

i know
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=624405.0
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=622949.0

😂😂
Ohh my lord
I wish this guy comes back and posts a pic.
How long did it take for you to fish 🐟 for that?🎣

Dorian was loved by everyone.
Crazy that 2 different people have the same favorite bodybuilder
Your dedicating part of your day to vindicate a perceived truth by you that im some other person?
Is Illuminati training you?
He better turn down the dose
Hold strong, you almost have 3rd place wrapped up

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

Be there is gimmick crazy paranoid, lol.

It is kinda sad.

[bozo_the_rot]

Be there is gimmick crazy paranoid, lol.

It is kinda sad.

I'm starting to see a pattern of something off.
Well, that's what happens when your a grown man eating like a small Asian bikini competitor.
Be there, if you read this....the yogurt listed here helps your tummy health.
Write this down, or am I going to have to move you down to the front of class.?😮😉

[tres_taco_combo]

dang

[Simple Simon]

Back when i was on the boards posting as InsulinShock (98-01 or so), I was using about 60iu/day of Humulin-R & that was considered a fuck-ton & ppl said i wasneithernlying, because that amount wasnt possible, or i was gonna die or become diabetic. That was back when not a lot of guys knew how to use insulin so i had to experiment on my own after getting the basics from Nasser and Milos (percs of living in san diego at the time... Their advice pretty much mirrored each others, butb that's another thread). Looking back, i believe insulin is somewhat not worth it without GH.

any pics?

[bozo_the_rot]

Illuminati, what would say are the key compounds to have in a regime pre-contest?
Also, do you like clen or ephedra better?

[ESFitness]

Illuminati, what would say are the key compounds to have in a regime pre-contest?
Also, do you like clen or ephedra better?

Ill put in my $.02

Of course test
Tren a
Mast DiProp
Anadrol
Winstrol or var... Sometimes cant train heavy enuf w/win b/c of joint pain in elbows n knees
Halotestin
Proviron

*Id add primo ace, but not exactly cost-effective. (lotta guys primo is actually masteron. Ive posted about this often &thats a thread in itself)

Of course gh

Clen
T3 in small doses & t4 (because of the gh)
Clen
Ephederine sulphate (shorter half-life than hcl & easier to control)
Caffeine
Aspirin
Nolvadex
Yohimbine hcl
Dutasteride
Aromasin
Clonidine
NAC (wont burn fat with a poor liver), not enuf exp w/tudca to advise/rec

[Simple Simon]

Ill put in my $.02

Of course test
Tren a
Mast DiProp
Anadrol
Winstrol or var... Sometimes cant train heavy enuf w/win b/c of joint pain in elbows n knees
Halotestin
Proviron

*Id add primo ace, but not exactly cost-effective. (lotta guys primo is actually masteron. Ive posted about this often &thats a thread in itself)

Of course gh

Clen
T3 in small doses & t4 (because of the gh)
Clen
Ephederine sulphate (shorter half-life than hcl & easier to control)
Caffeine
Aspirin
Nolvadex
Yohimbine hcl
Dutasteride
Aromasin
Clonidine
NAC (wont burn fat with a poor liver), not enuf exp w/tudca to advise/rec

hahahaha... what was the point of wasting all that money...

[ESFitness]

Just two compounds of Anabolics now, npp and test prop. Insulin use has quadrupled and I don't know if it would be responsible saying how much I am using as if an unprepared young lad copied me he could drop dead. Gh usage isn't over the top either, 8iu on my five training days

Can totally get away with just 2 compounds.

"Offseason" (adding size, kcal surplus) test and npp

"Prep" (dropping bodyfat & maintaining muscle mass. Kcal deficit) test and tren, w/ stuff to control estrogen/bloat like aromasin and nolva, & fat burners like clen and/or eca

Dont necessarily need other drugs "pre contest", but androgenic drugs that dont aromatize do tend to give a different look("harder/drier/vascular") to the physique... Typically DHT-derivatives like halo, drol,mast, winny, etc...

[illuminati]

Very Well said...
You're dealing with the human body and that's the most intricate instrument of all
Do you like the general ideal of diet here? Lower carb most of the day with the bulk of carb intake around the workout?

Depends how carb sensitive they are & if using insulin or not.
Broadly speaking - yes - lower carbs during the day - Some carbs 1 or 2 hrs before training
And the remainder after.

It is likely that this is as much a Mental / Psychological Boost as a Physical Help.
And the mind is Key to success.

[ilalin]

if you know what you're doing it's possible to achieve the LOOK. You have to know the basics of how the body operates and for example why insulin and GH work well together. If you don't know how much glycogen is found per pound of muscle (or know from experience) after proper carbloading you'll never achieve this look. It'as not a secret, you just have to find out for yourself. You gotta go serching or/and trying. As my dad answered my question as a young man, son-"how come I don't have a girl yet?" father-"well....pussy won't be served on a silver platter". Secrets of the pros are made so idiots can spend their money.

[illuminati]

All of your points are what people tend to overlook

example, Samir Bannout won the 1983 Olympia weighing like 188lbs. Yeah I know guys that was 1983 blah blah blah. Tell me, how many here have weighed 188lbs or more cut at the same height/weight on several hundred mgs more of steroids plus other compounds they were not even yet using in 1983 and looked even near this today?

Well said you make a good point.

Like I stated before - Genetic response - both to training & drugs - Can Make a huge difference,
Then there's mental attitude/ lifestyle/ training variables / diet etc all of them make a difference.

[illuminati]

😂😂
Ohh my lord
I wish this guy comes back and posts a pic.
How long did it take for you to fish 🐟 for that?🎣

Dorian was loved by everyone.
Crazy that 2 different people have the same favorite bodybuilder
Your dedicating part of your day to vindicate a perceived truth by you that im some other person?
Is Illuminati training you?
He better turn down the dose
Hold strong, you almost have 3rd place wrapped up

No - I'm not training 'Be There' He is doing it himself -  He is doing & achievieing what He Wants.
Fair play to him.
We may or may not agree with what he does or how he looks - We have to admit He does have the courage of his Convictions and Posts Pics.

I have respect for him doing so.

[The Wizard of Truth]

if you know what you're doing it's possible to achieve the LOOK. You have to know the basics of how the body operates and for example why insulin and GH work well together. If you don't know how much glycogen is found per pound of muscle (or know from experience) after proper carbloading you'll never achieve this look. It'as not a secret, you just have to find out for yourself. You gotta go serching or/and trying. As my dad answered my question as a young man, son-"how come I don't have a girl yet?" father-"well....pussy won't be served on a silver platter". Secrets of the pros are made so idiots can spend their money.

Someone speaking sense...I've experimented with practically all compounds, protocols, peptides etc and I agree there's a lot of bullshit, unnecessary bullshit out there that dealers make sound essential when in reality they aren't important

[Simple Simon]

"All that money"? As if you have any clue what it would cost.

Any comment from you is worthless, as with 5+ years on this board ive yet to see you contribute ANYTHING remotely constructive.

Ill leave with a quote from JP Fux's own mouth "dont bother unless you can afford $2k a month"(or $3k, i forget)

if it costs that then its simply not worth it, who the fuck is stupid enough to spend that amount of money and sit there pinning multiple times a day, talk about a fucking loser in life.

[ESFitness]

if it costs that then its simply not worth it, who the fuck is stupid enough to spend that amount of money and sit there pinning multiple times a day, talk about a fucking loser in life.

The irony of a 50+ yr old boy who trolls bbing msg boards with his 15" arms non stop saying  "what a loser in life".

[illuminati]

Illuminati, what would say are the key compounds to have in a regime pre-contest?
Also, do you like clen or ephedra better?

Hmmm Depends how far out from comp were staring prep & there bodyfat level.

The Below - Would Be A Good Array To Pick & Choose From.
Comes down to cost & availability.

I've know some come in great contest condition using
Sust / mast / GH.

Test
Tren a
Mast DiProp
Anadrol
Winstrol
Halotestin if can get decent quality - have used this in a last couple of years
Proviron
Primobolan as above for Halotestin
GH
Clenbuterol
Insulin
T3 in small doses & t4
Caffeine
Aspirin
Aromasin / arimidex

Not all of the above at once & Various combinations of them.
Plus Vits & mins + Good Food + Rest + Mental Attitude + ETC.

I Really do not like to give out a Blanket approach.

[falco]

Time for a shreds update. Post some glute shots bozo.

[bozo_the_rot]

Time for a shreds update. Post some glute shots bozo.

Falco, stay tuned for Phase 3
Then you'll have the map for the Olympia stage

[bozo_the_rot]

Ha - I'm tending to agree.

Lots of Highfalutin drug protocols here -
I hope there are some National / World class amateurs or pro level physiques
Or they have been at that level.

Having competed at National & international level (yeah a few years back)
And helped been involved with quite a few Top amateurs / IFBB Pro's
I find a lot of this stuff is very excessive/ not required & almost as though each
Is trying to be the leading knowledge by reading  / researching on what to write about next to out do each other.

KISS principle = Keep It Simple - Stupid.
Why over complicate when it is unnecessary.

I await to be shot down in flames, no doubt.

Illuminati, what would say are the key compounds too have in a regime pre-contest?
Also, do you like clen or ephedra better?

Hmmm Depends how far out from comp were staring prep & there bodyfat level.

The Below - Would Be A Good Array To Pick & Choose From.
Comes down to cost & availability.

I've know some come in great contest condition using
Sust / mast / GH.

Test
Tren a
Mast DiProp
Anadrol
Winstrol
Halotestin if can get decent quality - have used this in a last couple of years
Proviron
Primobolan as above for Halotestin
GH
Clenbuterol
Insulin
T3 in small doses & t4
Caffeine
Aspirin
Aromasin / arimidex

Not all of the above at once & Various combinations of them.
Plus Vits & mins + Good Food + Rest + Mental Attitude + ETC.

I Really do not like to give out a Blanket approach.

Hahahah Mr Illuminati, are you trolling/messing with me?