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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Thin Lizzy on June 29, 2011, 12:07:19 PM
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How long do you think it would take you to learn this song?
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we should have a getbig guitar-off. braodstreet, yngwie... who else we got?
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we should have a getbig guitar-off. braodstreet, yngwie... who else we got?
I forget all their nicks, but, there are a few guys here who can play.
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YoungBlood :D
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we should have a getbig guitar-off. braodstreet, yngwie... who else we got?
Let's go!!!!!!! I promise you right now I will downright annihilate anybody on this board, 32nd note 6 string arpeggios from 1st to 24th fret , tap sweeps and ridiculous legato!
I used to play Yngwie and Symphony X for fun!
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There's another guy here .. has youtubes .. I can't remember his name :-\
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peter green and danny kirwan
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Let's go!!!!!!! I promise you right now I will downright annihilate anybody on this board, 32nd note 6 string arpeggios from 1st to 24th fret , tap sweeps and ridiculous legato!
I used to play Yngwie and Symphony X for fun!
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It's all about the hair bro!
GB needs a headbanging smiley.
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Let's go!!!!!!! I promise you right now I will downright annihilate anybody on this board, 32nd note 6 string arpeggios from 1st to 24th fret , tap sweeps and ridiculous legato!
I used to play Yngwie and Symphony X for fun!
Hey check out Gustavo Guerra, he's good! You tube.
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Let's go!!!!!!! I promise you right now I will downright annihilate anybody on this board, 32nd note 6 string arpeggios from 1st to 24th fret , tap sweeps and ridiculous legato!
I used to play Yngwie and Symphony X for fun!
How many rock guitar players does it take to change a light bulb?
20.
1 to do it...
...and 19 to complain about how much better they could have done it.
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There's another guy here .. has youtubes .. I can't remember his name :-\
wasn't it Dyslexic?
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wasn't it Dyslexic?
I dunno .. I don't think that's the guy I'm thinking of .. but you may be right ???
I remember he's kinda short .. and posted a picture in a gym mirror taken by a taller lady (her reflection is in the pic too).. his wifey ?
I think she was wearing gym pants and a tank top .. she was a little taller than him it looked like
flexing arms .. biceps in particular IIRC :-\
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I dunno .. I don't think that's the guy I'm thinking of .. but you may be right ???
I remember he's kinda short .. and posted a picture in a gym mirror taken by a taller lady (her reflection is in the pic too).. his wifey ?
I think she was wearing gym pants and a tank top .. she was a little taller than him it looked like
flexing arms .. biceps in particular IIRC :-\
no that's not dyslexic
but I swear dyslexic post a vid on the guitar though
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How do you get a blues guitarist to turn down
Put a chart in front of him.
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How do you get a blues guitarist to turn down
Put a chart in front of him.
Tell that to Charlie Baty.
Ask someone that can read charts to play authentic blues, without sounding like Mayall-like Clapton. Or Clapton period.
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Tell that to Charlie Baty.
Ask someone that can read charts to play authentic blues, without sounding like Mayall-like Clapton. Or Clapton period.
did you see this of Clapton pwning himself?
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did you see this of Clapton pwning himself?
Clapton rarely plays like that live. I'm not an aficionado of all things Clapton, but I know he doesn't sit down acoustically every night and play Robert Johnson.
Even if he were, most of today's rock mutts would still end up playing like Coco Montoya- hell of a nice guy, but what he does is not blues.
And if one would want my opinion on what is and is not blues, that's a whole can of worms outside of this thread.
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Clapton rarely plays like that live. I'm not an aficionado of all things Clapton, but I know he doesn't sit down acoustically every night and play Robert Johnson.
Even if he were, most of today's rock mutts would still end up playing like Coco Montoya- hell of a nice guy, but what he does is not blues.
And if one would want my opinion on what is and is not blues, that's a whole can of worms outside of this thread.
let me steal a description from another forum:
"I know blues is not a white guy playing a PRS through a Dumble"
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let me steal a description from another forum:
"I know blues is not a white guy playing a PRS through a Dumble"
Haha, and good analogy.
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Hey check out Gustavo Guerra, he's good! You tube.
He's very good, really fluid, I've been checking out his stuff for years :)
also phenomenal tone
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Clapton rarely plays like that live. I'm not an aficionado of all things Clapton, but I know he doesn't sit down acoustically every night and play Robert Johnson.
Even if he were, most of today's rock mutts would still end up playing like Coco Montoya- hell of a nice guy, but what he does is not blues.
And if one would want my opinion on what is and is not blues, that's a whole can of worms outside of this thread.
No this needs fleshing out here.
Howling Wolf= Blues
Clapton = Pretend Blues
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let me steal a description from another forum:
"I know blues is not a white guy playing a PRS through a Dumble"
dumbles are the most overrated thing in the rock gearhead world. not a good sound to me... meant for 40 year old dudes who like adult contemporary.
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http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=_RFqvR9Bvbc
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Went & saw this fellow several years ago. He was tearing up Django licks at the age of 18. Gypsy jazz at its best.
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:(
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Kid's gonna be a monster.
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Let's go!!!!!!! I promise you right now I will downright annihilate anybody on this board, 32nd note 6 string arpeggios from 1st to 24th fret , tap sweeps and ridiculous legato!
I used to play Yngwie and Symphony X for fun!
A) You have too much time on your hands
B) You're a lonely nerd
:/
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getbiggers at a concert:
(http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tas/2011/tas110630.gif)
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Ask someone that can read charts to play authentic blues.
that list however short it may be would include you :-*
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Slash...
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Not some string wizard, but I was pleasantly surprised by his solo from 0:33...
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nobody here (including me) or on youtube is going anywhere with guitar playing except maybe a local nightclub.
there it's off my chest.
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A) You have too much time on your hands
B) You're a lonely nerd
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As opposed to some fat permabulker loser, living in a foreign country with an ugly ass wife and an uglier ass kid ?
hahahah, oh don't let me forget; stalking old men and asking them for sexual favors
Ahahahahh.. I'm surprised you're even posting after Chick and the whole board destroyed you.
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As opposed to some fat permabulker loser, living in a foreign country with an ugly ass wife and an uglier ass kid ?
hahahah, oh don't let me forget; stalking old men and asking them for sexual favors
Ahahahahh.. I'm surprised you're even posting after Chick and the whole board destroyed you.
Michael Romeo? ;D
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nobody here (including me) or on youtube is going anywhere with guitar playing except maybe a local nightclub.
there it's off my chest.
Been there, done that. Played clubs for a living in the late 80's - early 90's. Taught guitar for a few years as well. Still do occasionally.
If anyone is looking to become rich/famous by playing music, they're playing music for the wrong reasons. We met many flaky musicians back in the day during our countless auditions for band members, and many just wanted to be rock stars, not musicians.
Playing guitar isn't a competition, though many would probably disagree, it's about making music, regardless of technique. This is coming from a dude who practiced technique 6-14 hrs a day for years. I play an instrument to make music that appeals to me first and foremost and because I love music, of all genres. Youtube is the perfect medium for garnering an audience for your music. If your goal is to make money, go to school and get a career, don't become a musician.
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Not some string wizard, but I was pleasantly surprised by his solo from 0:33...
Story behind that was that all the other guitar players were like "Prince is going to play guitar with us on this song ::)...."
...so he stuck it their faces a bit.
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Kid's gonna be a monster.
Definatley.
Kid already is a monster.
Hopefully he stays humble and finds himself a group to play with, always a shame to see people like that with insane talent who are too self absorbed to put their ego aside enough to play with others.
After all, IMHO, mastering the instrument is only part of the equation... its when you put that together with others that the magic really happens (not to mention the musical maturity that learning how to play and work with others brings).
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Definatley.
Kid already is a monster.
Hopefully he stays humble and finds himself a group to play with, always a shame to see people like that with insane talent who are too self absorbed to put their ego aside enough to play with others.
After all, IMHO, mastering the instrument is only part of the equation... its when you put that together with others that the magic really happens (not to mention the musical maturity that learning how to play and work with others brings).
The kid's got some originals on his youtube channel as well. I really dig the jazzy stuff he's playing. He's better now than in that vid I posted which was a year or two old.
Not to sound egotistical but my problem has always been finding musicians of the same caliber as myself. I usually end up playing with inferior players as I only play as a hobby. Most good players take it much more serious than I do now, and have different goals than me, requiring more of a commitment than I can give. I still practice anywhere from and hour to 4 hours a day depending on my schedule but it's for personal enjoyment. Looking to start gigging again this winter. I got an offer to join a Dio cover band a few weeks ago and I may take them up on it.
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There's another guy here .. has youtubes .. I can't remember his name :-\
That would probably be me...
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The kid's got some originals on his youtube channel as well. I really dig the jazzy stuff he's playing. He's better now than in that vid I posted which was a year or two old.
Not to sound egotistical but my problem has always been finding musicians of the same caliber as myself. I usually end up playing with inferior players as I only play as a hobby. Most good players take it much more serious than I do now, and have different goals than me, requiring more of a commitment than I can give. I still practice anywhere from and hour to 4 hours a day depending on my schedule but it's for personal enjoyment. Looking to start gigging again this winter. I got an offer to join a Dio cover band a few weeks ago and I may take them up on it.
Yeah thats the same problem I encountered. Finding people at the same committment level and playing level, the good players, like you said were a lot more serious than I could realistically be, and the rest, well... just werent up to par.
There was a time where I was in a band with some really exceptional players (we wrote and played a lot of melodic speed/thrash metal), everyone had the same mentallity, same goals, it was awesome, but alas, women and drugs reared there ugly head and claimed two of our players, and that shit ended way prematurely. :-\
*Edit*
Since I just headed to school, I just sold of my VHT Pitbull head... it was fucking painful to let go. It took about 2 seconds to sell. :-[
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Yeah thats the same problem I encountered. Finding people at the same committment level and playing level, the good players, like you said were a lot more serious than I could realistically be, and the rest, well... just werent up to par.
There was a time where I was in a band with some really exceptional players (we wrote and played a lot of melodic speed/thrash metal), everyone had the same mentallity, same goals, it was awesome, but alas, women and drugs reared there ugly head and claimed two of our players, and that shit ended way prematurely. :-\
*Edit*
Since I just headed to school, I just sold of my VHT Pitbull head... it was fucking painful to let go. It took about 2 seconds to sell. :-[
Damn, that sucks bro.
I have a hard time letting anything go, especially amps. But I miss my old HiWatt Custom 100 head I had from waaay back. Playing through a 5150 ii these days with my latest acquisition being the guitar in my av.
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That would probably be me...
Good vids man. Don't like sitting down and playing personally.
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that list however short it may be would include you :-*
Yeah I can read a chart, but then playing the tune is another story! :p I don't have time these days to hone that skill, and the skill was picked up after I did a majority of my learning. But if in a crunch, I could probably do a decent job but Curtis Fuller I am not! *
nobody here (including me) or on youtube is going anywhere with guitar playing except maybe a local nightclub.
there it's off my chest.
Interesting you say that. By the time I was 19 I had played my first tour of the US. By the time I was 22 I'd circled the US, been to all but 5 states (including Hawaii and Alaska) and nearly every providence. I've been on a few albums and been onstage with numerous guys, not really anyone you've heard of unless you're a blues nazi, but I've been there done that and have a drawer of the t-shirts I'll never wear. Kim Wilson, James Harman, Rick Estrin, Darrel Nulisch (sp?) and a few others I've shared the bill with or played with them at one time or another. Shit, I gave up that life over 5yrs ago.
*Trivia: rice cake to the person that can tell the story about Curtis Fuller reading charts, which is why I threw that line in there.
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Only one problem i have with these so-called metal shredders, and that is they seem to hide behind their overdrive/distortion. Hammer-ons, pull offs, finger tapping, arpeggios etc... sound really good with the aid of a noise box. Tell them to play the same licks on an acoustic guitar, & they fall over every time.
With the exception of Malmsteen, who can shred on either.
I know, i used to be one of them. I went through a metal shredding phase when i was younger, & eventually got bored with its one dimensional simplicity.
Jazz, classical, gypsy jazz, flamenco etc... utilizing ALL of your fingers (instead of a pick) while at the same time incorporating very complex chords, bass lines, as well as shredding a few licks/arpeggios in between etc... thats the REALLY hard stuff.
Took me years to realize this.
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This guy imo is a monster, the shit he plays with his fingers makes your jaw drop! his rhythym accenting is out of this world, he sounds like 3 guys playing (with percussion) if you close your eyes..
He gives so much soul to the songs he plays, all the little nuances from the original recordings are there!
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Yeah I can read a chart, but then playing the tune is another story! :p I don't have time these days to hone that skill, and the skill was picked up after I did a majority of my learning. But if in a crunch, I could probably do a decent job but Curtis Fuller I am not! *
Interesting you say that. By the time I was 19 I had played my first tour of the US. By the time I was 22 I'd circled the US, been to all but 5 states (including Hawaii and Alaska) and nearly every providence. I've been on a few albums and been onstage with numerous guys, not really anyone you've heard of unless you're a blues nazi, but I've been there done that and have a drawer of the t-shirts I'll never wear. Kim Wilson, James Harman, Rick Estrin, Darrel Nulisch (sp?) and a few others I've shared the bill with or played with them at one time or another. Shit, I gave up that life over 5yrs ago.
*Trivia: rice cake to the person that can tell the story about Curtis Fuller reading charts, which is why I threw that line in there.
name a song you wrote that I would know
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Yeah I can read a chart, but then playing the tune is another story! :p I don't have time these days to hone that skill, and the skill was picked up after I did a majority of my learning. But if in a crunch, I could probably do a decent job but Curtis Fuller I am not! *
Interesting you say that. By the time I was 19 I had played my first tour of the US. By the time I was 22 I'd circled the US, been to all but 5 states (including Hawaii and Alaska) and nearly every providence. I've been on a few albums and been onstage with numerous guys, not really anyone you've heard of unless you're a blues nazi, but I've been there done that and have a drawer of the t-shirts I'll never wear. Kim Wilson, James Harman, Rick Estrin, Darrel Nulisch (sp?) and a few others I've shared the bill with or played with them at one time or another. Shit, I gave up that life over 5yrs ago.
*Trivia: rice cake to the person that can tell the story about Curtis Fuller reading charts, which is why I threw that line in there.
I am no blues Nazi but that's really impressive.
Who do you think is the best harp player outta that bunch?
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Story behind that was that all the other guitar players were like "Prince is going to play guitar with us on this song ::)...."
...so he stuck it their faces a bit.
not true. they insisted he play the big solo, because george's relatives were against him playing on it. They were extremely pleased with him performance in the end.
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Good vids man. Don't like sitting down and playing personally.
I have to, my back is fucked.
I've done my time. I agree with your earlier post. That's why I have a real job. Besides, most musicians are fucking pussies.
I like to fight, not bitch.
It is what it is. I do it for my own pleasure. I post on YT because I can. So they sponsor me. Wow. Makes me no money and I have no desire to teach.
I am a graduate of G.I.T Hollywood. Did my time teaching too. That's not what makes me happy.
I'm also a graphic artist and work for some pretty damn famous people, but I do it when I want, and that doesnt' pay the bills either.
Notice anything? All I am is a fucking copycat. No originality whatsoever. I don't have any of my own music.
Don't even care. Big deal.
I can go sit on Haight Street or Venice Beach and make bank. Ha.
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I have to, my back is fucked.
I've done my time. I agree with your earlier post. That's why I have a real job. Besides, most musicians are fucking pussies.
I like to fight, not bitch.
It is what it is. I do it for my own pleasure. I post on YT because I can. So they sponsor me. Wow. Makes me no money and I have no desire to teach.
I am a graduate of G.I.T Hollywood. Did my time teaching too. That's not what makes me happy.
I'm also a graphic artist and work for some pretty damn famous people, but I do it when I want, and that doesnt' pay the bills either.
Notice anything? All I am is a fucking copycat. No originality whatsoever. I don't have any of my own music.
Don't even care. Big deal.
I can go sit on Haight Street or Venice Beach and make bank. Ha.
No offense, but you should practice more
there was a lot of sloppy moments in the santana and dire straits covers
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No offense, but you should practice more
there was a lot of sloppy moments in the santana and dire straits covers
No offense to you bro, but the same could be said about that Sultans of swing vid.
It was way sloppy. I know its a different world playing clean like that, little gain, little sustain, finger picking, etc.. but it was sloppy. (Props for trying to pull it off the right way thoug)
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sloppy blowjob
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Cool playing dyslexic!
I absolutely love shredding, but never really managed to get my hands in sync.
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No offense to you bro, but the same could be said about that Sultans of swing vid.
It was way sloppy. I know its a different world playing clean like that, little gain, little sustain, finger picking, etc.. but it was sloppy. (Props for trying to pull it off the right way thoug)
Hey guys... I was trying to make a point. I taught music theory and guitar basics. I play every style. Look at the guitars. They are $90 Squiers. I probably make them sound better than most any Strat you can find.
Wanna know how many takes I did on any of my 100 videos? One! If I didn't get it right, fuck it, who cares.
Dire Straits. That is Mark Knopfler and finger style. I had NEVER even attempted that before. First take.
Like I said. Who cares? I don't get paid to do it and I don't claim to be an expert. Why would I practice it again? Shit, I've already forgotten it.
I started getting more into video editing and making my own computers to handle the workload. "Bark at the Moon" -another first attempt at Adobe Elements 8 and a quick listen to the song.
You need to go criticize guys who are actually standing, performing, practicing and actually giving a shit.
Now, my little critics, show me your vids. K? Maybe you guys actually try hard n' shit?
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no that's not dyslexic
but I swear dyslexic post a vid on the guitar though
I was wrong it is dyslexic I was thinking about .. I watched a lot of his tubes and recognized the tat
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=379466.msg5395827#msg5395827
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Hey guys... I was trying to make a point. I taught music theory and guitar basics. I play every style. Look at the guitars. They are $90 Squiers. I probably make them sound better than most any Strat you can find.
Wanna know how many takes I did on any of my 100 videos? One! If I didn't get it right, fuck it, who cares.
Dire Straits. That is Mark Knopfler and finger style. I had NEVER even attempted that before. First take.
Like I said. Who cares? I don't get paid to do it and I don't claim to be an expert. Why would I practice it again? Shit, I've already forgotten it.
I started getting more into video editing and making my own computers to handle the workload. "Bark at the Moon" -another first attempt at Adobe Elements 8 and a quick listen to the song.
You need to go criticize guys who are actually standing, performing, practicing and actually giving a shit.
Now, my little critics, show me your vids. K? Maybe you guys actually try hard n' shit?
My bad, I thought for some reason that was one of capts EQ's vids, and that he had called you sloppy about your vids on page 1 and then posted that sultans vids.
Sorry. Lol.
Thats what I get for posting at 3:00 am when I get up to take a shit.
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i'd criticize you if i paid money to see you and you blew assholes. but since you're one of millions of videos on youtube playing for fun, who cares?
you wish you were this guy:
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if youre just going to turn 30 and play local clubs, it's more about song vocaulary, personality, having a decent looks, being cool to club owners, playing soft enough, leading on girls and being cool with dudes, and being able to deliver solid backup harmony vocals.
if you're 16, by all means, chase that dream.
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Only one problem i have with these so-called metal shredders, and that is they seem to hide behind their overdrive/distortion. Hammer-ons, pull offs, finger tapping, arpeggios etc... sound really good with the aid of a noise box. Tell them to play the same licks on an acoustic guitar, & they fall over every time.
With the exception of Malmsteen, who can shred on either.
Dunno about that man. I played acoustic and/or with no distortion for years during my daily practices, and when I plugged in to a high gain amp I was sloppy as hell trying to control the distortion. Playing heavily distorted is an altogether different animal. I vary my practices these days, but we also have acoustic jams as well. I'm more of a speed picking guy anyway than a legato guy as I'm a huge DiMeola fan and I despise a tremolo bar. Though, I do it all.
if youre just going to turn 30 and play local clubs, it's more about song vocaulary, personality, having a decent looks, being cool to club owners, playing soft enough, leading on girls and being cool with dudes, and being able to deliver solid backup harmony vocals.
if you're 16, by all means, chase that dream.
That was/is me, except I'm heading towards 50. Good post.
I've got some shitty vids and recordings too, maybe I'll post some.
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in about an hour i'm heading to GC to get the marshall class 5 combo. i've sworn off guitar center, but the class 5 is on sale this weekend for $299 (probably because the head&cab is out now, marshall never goes on sale).
the wife should be thrilled when i bring it in. ::)
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My bad, I thought for some reason that was one of capts EQ's vids, and that he had called you sloppy about your vids on page 1 and then posted that sultans vids.
Sorry. Lol.
Thats what I get for posting at 3:00 am when I get up to take a shit.
Hahahah, no I'm a little more in shape then that! lol
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i'd criticize you if i paid money to see you and you blew assholes. but since you're one of millions of videos on youtube playing for fun, who cares?
you wish you were this guy:
Actually, out of all the fantastic guitarists out there, I like this guy. Go figure. SRV must have liked him too, but I don't play like him. Yes, I do know fingerstyle blues and theory, but I don't play like Tommy.
Second choice Freddy Kreuger... I mean Frank Gambale...
Fuck the rockers... generally speaking, they are nothing. Don't start snivellin about Jason Becker and Paul Gilbert or Marty Friedman... not even Eddie Van Halen. Yes, they were/are (EVH?) great, but only at what they do. Some of these guys like say... oh.. Joe Pass, Django Rheinhardt? They put everyone to shame.
There is always someone better. Always someone faster (even in racing) always someone bigger, stronger, smarter...
Whatevah
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you can play dyslexic
but too say some of the metal guitarists arent special is just stupid
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So is anyone in this thread not into the depressing slow old blues shit or gypsy jazz (who the fuck even listens to this crap!?) :)
I like my music to have a little kick and life to it, blues is as repetitive and depressing as country, gypsy jazz is so fucked up, I don't even know where to start..
You guys want to hear a guy that can do it all and play it all ? Stevie Stevens (yes of Billy Idol fame) check out this track, written by him (he wrote the whole album) and INSANE out of this world (yes still original and different) solo
coming at 3:28 but has a prelude at 2:50
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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I play the blues too.
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name a song you wrote that I would know
You really didn't even understand what I said, did you?
You were the one that mentioned none of us ever doing much.
You said we wouldn't do much more than tour or do much outside of playing a club.
I came into the conversation and told you I had done all that and by the time I was 22 for most of all I said.
And no you want a song I wrote?
Who mentioned anything about a song? You, but only now.
I've never written a single song, it's not my forte. Never thought I was good at putting pen to paper. I have my niche and that's what I stick with. If that's not good enough for you, Nirvana, then shit in your hand.
I am no blues Nazi but that's really impressive.
Who do you think is the best harp player outta that bunch?
Hard to say, depends on if you're looking for a certain style or overall. For particular styles, I would say Estrin does the Sonny Boy II the best, though Kim is no slouch. Overall, Kim is hands down the best. He can play; Walter, Sonny Boy (I and II), Wolf etc...he sings really good (especially in comparison to all the other blues harp singers (though Harman gives him a good run at times) and he can do a lot of tricks too. Look up some of his 10+min harp solos where he's accompanied only by the drummer at times.
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Actually, out of all the fantastic guitarists out there, I like this guy. Go figure. SRV must have liked him too, but I don't play like him. Yes, I do know fingerstyle blues and theory, but I don't play like Tommy.
Second choice Freddy Kreuger... I mean Frank Gambale...
There's a few "Guitar Boogie Shuffle"'s out there, and Tommy kind of pieced them together to make what you see there. There was Arthur Smith, and there was this man, Frank Virtue, who had this which is oft played yet never duplicated. Everyone from Tom Petty to local bar bands have tried to pull this one off...back when it came out, if you could play it you were hot shit.
Another monster that knew how to play thousands of genres still had his own style, was Danny Gatton. MONSTER!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2670299545018436086
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you can play dyslexic
but too say some of the metal guitarists arent special is just stupid
Out of context bud, out of context.
Look at what/how I play. I would be a hypocrite if you took it that way. It's cool. I understand I should have worded that much differently.
Hard to explain with a keyboard what you are trying to get across. It's all good. I am a clone. That would be like biting the hand that fed me.
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I'm out.... I can barely play the radio.
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So is anyone in this thread not into the depressing slow old blues shit or gypsy jazz (who the fuck even listens to this crap!?) :)
I like my music to have a little kick and life to it, blues is as repetitive and depressing as country, gypsy jazz is so fucked up, I don't even know where to start..
You guys want to hear a guy that can do it all and play it all ? Stevie Stevens (yes of Billy Idol fame) check out this track, written by him (he wrote the whole album) and INSANE out of this world (yes still original and different) solo
coming at 3:28 but has a prelude at 2:50
Steve Stevens is one of THE MOST underrated guitarist out there. He is much more than a rocker. I know that particular Vince Neil album inside and out. Listened to the cassette so much it finally broke. Couple of soundtracks made it to the movies. "Youre invited but your friends can't come" was in a Pauly Shore movie (I think)
Poker in the front, Liquor in the rear.
I love the drumming on that album too.
Steve was pretty creative with all the kids electronic toys too. Very tasteful the way he used them, much like Eddie VH with the drill in Poundcake.
Steve is playing some pretty off-the-wall stuff these days... some kind of Spanish Flamenco solo stuff.
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can anyone recommend an electric about $300 range with wide neck, balls to play Metallica but also tone to play acoustic/jazz stuff. Must stay in tune. No need for Floyd Rose. I am looking through Guitar center and my head is spinning from all the reviews. Looked at the Peavey Predator or Laguna, Epiphones which I have played before but cannot remember what model. I have a Tele now and it is shot but I will keep it. Thanks
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You really didn't even understand what I said, did you?
You were the one that mentioned none of us ever doing much.
You said we wouldn't do much more than tour or do much outside of playing a club.
I came into the conversation and told you I had done all that and by the time I was 22 for most of all I said.
And no you want a song I wrote?
Who mentioned anything about a song? You, but only now.
I've never written a single song, it's not my forte. Never thought I was good at putting pen to paper. I have my niche and that's what I stick with. If that's not good enough for you, Nirvana, then shit in your hand.
Hard to say, depends on if you're looking for a certain style or overall. For particular styles, I would say Estrin does the Sonny Boy II the best, though Kim is no slouch. Overall, Kim is hands down the best. He can play; Walter, Sonny Boy (I and II), Wolf etc...he sings really good (especially in comparison to all the other blues harp singers (though Harman gives him a good run at times) and he can do a lot of tricks too. Look up some of his 10+min harp solos where he's accompanied only by the drummer at times.
Yeah Kim is great have you heard the Ludella record he did with Jimmy Rogers bout 12years ago?
has a very decent stab at the old Little Walter parts.
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You really didn't even understand what I said, did you?
You were the one that mentioned none of us ever doing much.
You said we wouldn't do much more than tour or do much outside of playing a club.
I came into the conversation and told you I had done all that and by the time I was 22 for most of all I said.
And no you want a song I wrote?
Who mentioned anything about a song? You, but only now.
I've never written a single song, it's not my forte. Never thought I was good at putting pen to paper. I have my niche and that's what I stick with. If that's not good enough for you, Nirvana, then shit in your hand.
Hard to say, depends on if you're looking for a certain style or overall. For particular styles, I would say Estrin does the Sonny Boy II the best, though Kim is no slouch. Overall, Kim is hands down the best. He can play; Walter, Sonny Boy (I and II), Wolf etc...he sings really good (especially in comparison to all the other blues harp singers (though Harman gives him a good run at times) and he can do a lot of tricks too. Look up some of his 10+min harp solos where he's accompanied only by the drummer at times.
say no more, the rest is just meltdown.
when I say going somewhere I don't mean physically.
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In this day and age it doesn't matter how good you are at guitar or how musically gifted you are. all that matters is looks and being able to suck dick at the studio. just take a over-used chord progression write a poem to go with it and hope they will try to market you.
generation nothingness doesn't care for any form of intelligence, that's why they hate "Friday" by rebecca black but love "Baby" by Justin Beaver even though it's the same chord progression behind both songs. they don't hear or understand the music they just see the face on the music video and like whoever their friends say to like.
all the skill in the world means nothing now, that's why the worlds greatest musicians usually wind up giving lessons or playing at the local bar. some movie composers are really good but in general the music industry is all downhill
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In this day and age it doesn't matter how good you are at guitar or how musically gifted you are. all that matters is looks and being able to suck dick at the studio. just take a over-used chord progression write a poem to go with it and hope they will try to market you.
generation nothingness doesn't care for any form of intelligence, that's why they hate "Friday" by rebecca black but love "Baby" by Justin Beaver even though it's the same chord progression behind both songs. they don't hear or understand the music they just see the face on the music video and like whoever their friends say to like.
all the skill in the world means nothing now, that's why the worlds greatest musicians usually wind up giving lessons or playing at the local bar. some movie composers are really good but in general the music industry is all downhill
I - V - vi - IV
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I - V - vi - IV
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Can you reharmonize that?
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Just keep it simple...
1,4,5, rinse, repeat.
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So is anyone in this thread not into the depressing slow old blues shit or gypsy jazz (who the fuck even listens to this crap!?) :)
Who listens to this crap? Lets see now, where do i start: Tony Iommi, Joe Bonamassa, Jimmmy Page, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Chet Atkins (RIP), Derek Trucks, SRV, Knoppfler, BB King, Perter Frampton, Santana, T Emmanual, Steve Howe, George Benson, Jerry Garcia, Satriani, Malmsteen (I can go on & on...) & just about every "shredder"/heavy metal guitarist known to man, including Michael Angelo Batio ( Voted No. 1 Shredder of All Time" by Guitar One Magazine).
If you were a guitar purist, you actually knew a bit of history about the instrument you seem to love so much, or had half a clue, youd know that.
All thanks to a gentleman by the name of Django Reinhardt (the father of Gypsy Jazz), who started it all way back in the 1930s, and influenced some of the greatest guitarists of all time. Oh, and he only had 2 working left fingers, and could keep up with any modern "shredder" guitarist could do with four. He was tearing up the axe (with 2 fingers) when Michael Romeo was swinging in his grand daddys nuts.
So next time you are jamming out your hero Yngwie (who incidentally named Django “the best guitarists who ever lived”), guess what dipshit – you can attribute much of that to Gypsy Jazz.
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Who listens to this crap? Lets see now, where do i start: Tony Iommi, Joe Bonamassa, Jimmmy Page, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Chet Atkins (RIP), Derek Trucks, SRV, Knoppfler, BB King, Perter Frampton, Santana, T Emmanual, Steve Howe, George Benson, Jerry Garcia, Satriani, Malmsteen (I can go on & on...) & just about every "shredder"/heavy metal guitarist known to man, including Michael Angelo Batio ( Voted No. 1 Shredder of All Time" by Guitar One Magazine).
If you were a guitar purist, you actually knew a bit of history about the instrument you seem to love so much, or had half a clue, youd know that.
All thanks to a gentleman by the name of Django Reinhardt (the father of Gypsy Jazz), who started it all way back in the 1930s, and influenced some of the greatest guitarists of all time. Oh, and he only had 2 working left fingers, and could keep up with any modern "shredder" guitarist could do with four. He was tearing up the axe (with 2 fingers) when Michael Romeo was swinging in his grand daddys nuts.
So next time you are jamming out your hero Yngwie (who incidentally named Django “the best guitarists who ever lived”), guess what dipshit – you can attribute much of that to Gypsy Jazz.
Damn straight. He had his hand mangled in a fire so he could only use 2 fingers on his fret hand.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_N5TYQdXw1kA/SxatZoDijsI/AAAAAAAAAPI/3y-nn9kUBfE/s400/djangooof.jpg)
Not quite the same, but I had my forearm sliced to the bone in an industrial accident and have no feeling in my picking hand. They attempted to reattach the nerves but all that did was send fucked up signals to my brain. Touch my palm and it feels as if I'm being touched half way up my arm. Funny when I can't tell where the pick is, only to find it's sitting on the ground, again. :P
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I doubt that I would say "keep up" with the shredders. They would be fortunate to have "kept up" with him, and his insane scaling techniques that force the rest of us to actually work.
He always appeared relaxed.
BTW, I mentioned him (and Joe Pass) earlier on. These guys that play rythym or bass over the melody are somethin else.
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What I like about this guy is something I don't have: "originality"
Pure originality and a "direct connection" with his guitar...
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I forgot this one. Two opposing songs played at the same time. Anyone remember "outlaw Josie Wales?"
Very original, this guy. I'll stop before someone claims I like him TOO much. Watching him and Chet Atkins play would make any aspiring guitarist jizz his drawers.
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Damn straight. He had his hand mangled in a fire so he could only use 2 fingers on his fret hand.
Though there are stories about Django where he was able to use the two fingers that were burned together (his ring and pinky) as one and occasionally fret here or there. Still, with or without the use of the vestibule, he was a monster long before the majority of guys mentioned at any given time during these conversations.
For shredders, I think the guy I like most is Paul Gilbert. "Gilberto Concerto" is a great tune that was written by JC Bach and he redid it using the aforementioned name, and instead of Harpsichords, he used multiple guitars.
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I doubt that I would say "keep up" with the shredders. They would be fortunate to have "kept up" with him, and his insane scaling techniques that force the rest of us to actually work.
He always appeared relaxed.
BTW, I mentioned him (and Joe Pass) earlier on. These guys that play rythym or bass over the melody are somethin else.
Playing relaxed and with proper breathing is one the keys to playing with great technique. Good vids. Everyone I come across is a fan of Andy McKee these days.
Can't talk about guitars without these two gents...sans Al from that other famous night.
Both direct influences on my playing.
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Though there are stories about Django where he was able to use the two fingers that were burned together (his ring and pinky) as one and occasionally fret here or there. Still, with or without the use of the vestibule, he was a monster long before the majority of guys mentioned at any given time during these conversations.
For shredders, I think the guy I like most is Paul Gilbert. "Gilberto Concerto" is a great tune that was written by JC Bach and he redid it using the aforementioned name, and instead of Harpsichords, he used multiple guitars.
Not too shabby for a pseudo-flamenco style.
Paul was another major influence on my picking style.
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Not too shabby for a pseudo-flamenco style.
Paul was another major influence on my picking style.
Just looked up the Concerto, and found it on YouTube:
An interesting take on the song, which though the guys tone is horrendously rancid, I like what he did for the video:
And the original, where all the shredders copped their shit from:
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Shit, now I'm off playing DJ as I often like to do...whether others care for it or not!
This guy is insane, all finger picking too. I can't find a copy of the song where he is playing insanely fast, clean and articulated. You can catch glimpses of it here, but I posted this for the titties!
And because I love the Latin theme right now...
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And the original, where all the shredders copped their shit from:
Concerto is great! I remember learning keyboard licks from Paul's column in GW in the late 80's or early 90's. Lamb lies down on Broadway I believe it was. A lot of string skipping and tapping is/was based on keyboard based licks/compositions.
Yeah, we all stole from the classical composers...haha.
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Shit, now I'm off playing DJ as I often like to do...whether others care for it or not!
This guy is insane, all finger picking too. I can't find a copy of the song where he is playing insanely fast, clean and articulated. You can catch glimpses of it here, but I posted this for the titties!
And because I love the Latin theme right now...
Love Liebert's playing and I'm a huge huge fan of latin music. Good choice man!
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Music is subjective......there is no "best" (while we can certainly identify "technical ability and proficiency/as well as those who "butcher" music/songs...it's about how it makes you feel/what emotion it pulls outta you....music can be like a drug (alter your mood), just an hour ago a song came on and i felt the need to roll down the windows/turn it up and drive faster lol!
they also take you back to times and places (for me girls/X's) .....also bad/sad times in your life(i played guitar for awhile back in the 80's......took lessons,first song i learned was "Metallica/Welcome Home Sanitarium" i wasn't very good at all/lol...but i loved being onstage/go figure right
B.C. Rich Warlock ...
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Music is subjective......there is no "best" (while we can certainly identify "technical ability and proficiency/as well as those who "butcher" music/songs...it's about how it makes you feel/what emotion it pulls outta you....music can be like a drug (alter your mood), just an hour ago a song came on and i felt the need to roll down the windows/turn it up and drive faster lol!
they also take you back to times and places (for me girls/X's) .....also bad/sad times in your life(i played guitar for awhile back in the 80's......took lessons,first song i learned was "Metallica/Welcome Home Sanitarium" i wasn't very good at all/lol...but i loved being onstage/go figure right
B.C. Rich Warlock ...
Music is definitely subjective. Wish more guitar players would realize that..haha!
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Love Liebert's playing and I'm a huge huge fan of latin music. Good choice man!
To show you don't have to have speed or exquisite technique (though the guy has all of that and more!)...the beauty of a simple melody and where it can take your mind:
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And this guy is my HERO, on so so so many levels:
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gayer than using the epiphone les paul in the club because you don't want your gibson getting messed up.
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gayer than using the epiphone les paul in the club because you don't want your gibson getting messed up.
This = smart
I never took any of my more expensive guitars to gigs (PRS, Gibson, high end Jackson's, ESP's) screw that, if some dildo gets up on stage to body surf or whatever and knocks into my guitar and breaks off a headstock.
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Don't be forgettin' Paginini there Mr. Yngwie Rhoades....
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Don't be forgettin' Paginini there Mr. Yngwie Rhoades....
lol...I forgot.
Learned a little from some old tabs in Guitar for the Practicing Musician, but that's as far as that went. haha
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lol...I forgot.
Learned a little from some old tabs in Guitar for the Practicing Musician, but that's as far as that went. haha
Wouldn't mind checking out your playing sometime... any chance of that happening? Vids? Tracks?
I know that you know your shit and you aren't fucking around. That's obvious by your name (just kidding)- obvious by your posts in the music threads.
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we should have a getbig guitar-off. braodstreet, yngwie... who else we got?
ME! :D
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Let's go!!!!!!! I promise you right now I will downright annihilate anybody on this board, 32nd note 6 string arpeggios from 1st to 24th fret , tap sweeps and ridiculous legato!
I used to play Yngwie and Symphony X for fun!
But does any of it sound any good? Do you make shitloads of mistakes?
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Wouldn't mind checking out your playing sometime... any chance of that happening? Vids? Tracks?
I know that you know your shit and you aren't fucking around. That's obvious by your name (just kidding)- obvious by your posts in the music threads.
I posted a vid on page 3 of this thread. Just a short clip of some wanking - legato and speed picking recorded my iphone a couple days ago.
I play the blues too.
My channel has some shitty recorded stuff too as well as some private band crap. Recorded stuff is always one take. No good quality stuff unfortunately as I don't have the time or patience...haha!
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But does any of it sound any good? Do you make shitloads of mistakes?
No mistakes, and no time problems like some other posters here.. I practiced with a metronome for a good 5-6 years when I was younger (thanks J. Petrucci) that's actually one thing that bothers me like crazy, people playing in and out of time, like the dude that posted the santana and dire straits cover earlier, practice with a metronome!!!
I was raised on the old school (not so much shred) but neo-classical rock/metal, I have a great apreciation for classical themes, arpeggios, fugues, etc. I don't play notes just to play them and be fast, there is rhyme and reason in what I play, I'm a huge fan of solos like this:
At 1:17 and 1:01
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Yngwie Roads: You are good. You should form a band like Necrophagist, Sylosis or something, or maybe you have already?
My claim to fame was when Herman Lee from Dragonforce came up to me and said in his awesome weird voice "you are a good guitarist" after we supported them. I was 18 and thought that was awesome! Also played with Vader, but they were pretty grumpy guys.
I play a Jackson USA select SL1 Soloist, and shoot for At The Gates/Bodom/Ynwie/Opeth/Dissection type mixture of nordic widdly atmospheric mashup. I'll try and post a solo snippet, if I can upload it to a link. I'm not as fast as you, but I do have awesome feel and note choice, and still pretty fast.
Do you have any recordings of any band stuff you've done? Or like midi mess around shit with a backing?
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Yngwie Roads: You are good. You should form a band like Necrophagist, Sylosis or something, or maybe you have already?
My claim to fame was when Herman Lee from Dragonforce came up to me and said in his awesome weird voice "you are a good guitarist" after we supported them. I was 18 and thought that was awesome! Also played with Vader, but they were pretty grumpy guys.
I play a Jackson USA select SL1 Soloist, and shoot for At The Gates/Bodom/Ynwie/Opeth/Dissection type mixture of nordic widdly atmospheric mashup. I'll try and post a solo snippet, if I can upload it to a link. I'm not as fast as you, but I do have awesome feel and note choice, and still pretty fast.
Do you have any recordings of any band stuff you've done? Or like midi mess around shit with a backing?
I'm ok. Got 3 band offers in the last two weeks but I work 10-16 hrs a day so my options are pretty limited.
Fav band this week is actually Opeth but been listening to E.X.P today, so that may change. I like the jazzy sounding stuff of Opeth, Cynic and early Megadeth.
Very cool about Herman Li. they come across as pretty funny guys. Vader would definitely be cool to open for.
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Captain Equipose was it you who dissed Django Reinhardt earlier? He doesn't need defending by me or anything, but he makes all these SYmphony X /Petrucci guys look like the most nothingy soulless robotic guys imaginable, which in some ways they pretty much are. I don't think a Dream Theatre song has ever made me feel anything other than mild intrigue at how fast the main solo might be around the 6 minute mark - apart from 'live another day', which has a real tune and is pretty awesome.
I'm not trying to be negative and Symphony X have their moments and I like epic sounding classic stuff, but Django stuff is harder to play than the fastest arpeggio on earth, due to having feel and communicating something to the listener on a proper guitar. I bet John Petrucci would actually take his hat off and admit Django innovated more than any pro-tools shredder, Michael Angelo Batio certainly says this. It's not even a competition anyway but ....basically gypsy jazz is awesome :D!
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Captain Equipose was it you who dissed Django Reinhardt earlier? He doesn't need defending by me or anything, but he makes all these SYmphony X /Petrucci guys look like the most nothingy soulless robotic guys imaginable, which in some ways they pretty much are. I don't think a Dream Theatre song has ever made me feel anything other than mild intrigue at how fast the main solo might be around the 6 minute mark - apart from 'live another day', which has a real tune and is pretty awesome.
I'm not trying to be negative and Symphony X have their moments and I like epic sounding classic stuff, but Django stuff is harder to play than the fastest arpeggio on earth, due to having feel and communicating something to the listener on a proper guitar. I bet John Petrucci would actually take his hat off and admit Django innovated more than any pro-tools shredder, Michael Angelo Batio certainly says this. It's not even a competition anyway but ....basically gypsy jazz is awesome :D!
DT does have some good songs but most seem bland imo, same with Symphony X. I actually prefer Pagan's Mind to both of those bands when it comes to song writing.
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I don't know Cynic stuff, but yeah agree about Opeth jazzy stuff, properly interesting, mostly because he uses interesting notes outside of the regular minor scale, experiments with textures and clearly loves what he does. So what sort of band are you gonna go for if you do? You could be the lead guy for a Trivium type band and make loads of dollar, so many sh!t musicians around though, and depends on so much other stuff, you'd kind of need to be able to tour and be super into it and available.
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No mistakes, and no time problems like some other posters here.. I practiced with a metronome for a good 5-6 years when I was younger (thanks J. Petrucci) that's actually one thing that bothers me like crazy, people playing in and out of time
Playing in time, playing out of time...it can be intentional too. People that are always playing on the beat make things sound mechanical and robotic. Real music should not sound like this. Unless you call anything with drum machines and more effects boxes than strings in an orchestra producing "music."
Being able to play correct time, as well as ahead or behind the beat is just as much of a form of art as playing an arpeggio from a low octave to a high octave. Can you guess which one is more over done than a Coleman Vs Yates thread?!
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I don't know Cynic stuff, but yeah agree about Opeth jazzy stuff, properly interesting, mostly because he uses interesting notes outside of the regular minor scale, experiments with textures and clearly loves what he does. So what sort of band are you gonna go for if you do? You could be the lead guy for a Trivium type band and make loads of dollar, so many sh!t musicians around though, and depends on so much other stuff, you'd kind of need to be able to tour and be super into it and available.
I've been happy just playing and writing on my own, but I'm getting the itch to play in front of a crowd again. I may look for a few guys to put together a fusion band, or something like that. I'm jamming with a few friends doing some simple old school metal, but I get bored. I may look for a few guys to put together a fusion band, or something like that. Do the odd weekend gig. We'll see.
This is Cynic.
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Playing in time, playing out of time...it can be intentional too. People that are always playing on the beat make things sound mechanical and robotic. Real music should not sound like this. Unless you call anything with drum machines and more effects boxes than strings in an orchestra producing "music."
Being able to play correct time, as well as ahead or behind the beat is just as much of a form of art as playing an arpeggio from a low octave to a high octave. Can you guess which one is more over done than a Coleman Vs Yates thread?!
I play 'around the beat' often. It's more interesting.
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Yeah I mostly just mess about recording these days, but the whole crowd atmosphere thing is awesome and I miss it too. Well if you ever live anywhere near Bristol, England and wanna join a band with members of this band www.myspace.com/shadowlawmafia including the drummer, then let me know! haha
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Yeah I mostly just mess about recording these days, but the whole crowd atmosphere thing is awesome and I miss it too. Well if you ever live anywhere near Bristol, England and wanna join a band with members of this band www.myspace.com/shadowlawmafia including the drummer, then let me know! haha
I'm in Canada man. Not too far from these guys ---> http://www.intoeternity.net/ Now if IE needed a second guitar player......
I dig your stuff on your myspace too man, very cool.
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YR you play fucking awesome man!
I find sweeping to be much easier than alternate picking- those damn hands are hard to get in sync..
Here's a couple more.
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it would be nice to get some feedback of my playing.
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Cool vids guys. Yeah, I watched'em all while I'm working.
Christian, Left handed playing always looks backwards to me and throws me a little...haha. Getting your hands in sync just takes practice, as does any technique on a musical instrument.
Nice note choices warma your playing sounds mature. Makes me wanna do some vids myself.
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Cool vids guys. Yeah, I watched'em all while I'm working.
Christian, Left handed playing always looks backwards to me and throws me a little...haha. Getting your hands in sync just takes practice, as does any technique on a musical instrument.
Nice note choices warma your playing sounds mature. Makes me wanna do some vids myself.
Thanks :)
Im actually not left handed, the vids are just switched around somehow I guess.
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it would be nice to get some feedback of my playing.
Hugh Hefner can play pretty good. :D
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Playing in time, playing out of time...it can be intentional too. People that are always playing on the beat make things sound mechanical and robotic. Real music should not sound like this. Unless you call anything with drum machines and more effects boxes than strings in an orchestra producing "music."
Being able to play correct time, as well as ahead or behind the beat is just as much of a form of art as playing an arpeggio from a low octave to a high octave. Can you guess which one is more over done than a Coleman Vs Yates thread?!
I think you completely missed what I was saying, I wasn't talking about playing in different times (as in 7/8 , 3/4, etc.) I was talking about just being completely off as in sloppy or just not having a good sense of time and coming off or too early, playing in broken time is a totally different thing.
Cynic and bands like Atheist, Meshuggah, strapping young lad are insane, that's more math metal then anything
a lot of that stuff owes it's conception to Chuck Shuldiner of Death and is where Hoglan got big (he's one of the most insane drummer's in the world).
You guys are talking about Vader up above one of my band's opened up for them about 8,9 years ago in Toronto I was hanging with Peter afterwards, good guys.
This is one of the most fucked up, crazy solo's I've ever heard, LOL
this song is a clusterfuck of jazz, fusion, metal , prog rock, latin and who knows what else!
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Playing in time, playing out of time...it can be intentional too. People that are always playing on the beat make things sound mechanical and robotic. Real music should not sound like this. Unless you call anything with drum machines and more effects boxes than strings in an orchestra producing "music."
Being able to play correct time, as well as ahead or behind the beat is just as much of a form of art as playing an arpeggio from a low octave to a high octave. Can you guess which one is more over done than a Coleman Vs Yates thread?!
I guess you've never been in a studio, talk to any producer or engineer, their biggest pet peeve is guys playing off the click, then they have to spend hours editing the tracks afterwards to quantize and fix the sloppy playing, playing on the beat is the whole point when you're recording, lol
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I envy you guys who play!! :(
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I think you completely missed what I was saying, I wasn't talking about playing in different times (as in 7/8 , 3/4, etc.) I was talking about just being completely off as in sloppy or just not having a good sense of time and coming off or too early, playing in broken time is a totally different thing.
You really are a rock player, aren't you? I can tell just by how you talk.
For one, it was pretty clear as to what I said, Yngwie picked up on it, why couldn't you? Then in the second post you actually understand and contradict what you said above.
I guess you've never been in a studio, talk to any producer or engineer, their biggest pet peeve is guys playing off the click, then they have to spend hours editing the tracks afterwards to quantize and fix the sloppy playing, playing on the beat is the whole point when you're recording, lol
In my field, playing off the beat is what is requested. I've been in the studio plenty, and all of the people I perform with have the same opinion as I do for our music that we play.
If you have an engineer going through any stuff and using a program like ProTools to edit the time structure (not the measure as you said in your other post...I'm talking in relation to the beat...not in relation to 4/4 or 6/8 etc...) shouldn't be going through an entire song/solo to fix things. If he has to do that, then you hired the wrong player. Call someone else. Or the engineer is just a frustrated musician that likes to fiddle with toys.
Machines and ProTools can be good for certain things, but to edit something in it's entirety, if that is indeed being done, is not music. It's computer work just like photoshopping a photograph.
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You really are a rock player, aren't you? I can tell just by how you talk.
For one, it was pretty clear as to what I said, Yngwie picked up on it, why couldn't you? Then in the second post you actually understand and contradict what you said above.
In my field, playing off the beat is what is requested. I've been in the studio plenty, and all of the people I perform with have the same opinion as I do for our music that we play.
If you have an engineer going through any stuff and using a program like ProTools to edit the time structure (not the measure as you said in your other post...I'm talking in relation to the beat...not in relation to 4/4 or 6/8 etc...) shouldn't be going through an entire song/solo to fix things. If he has to do that, then you hired the wrong player. Call someone else. Or the engineer is just a frustrated musician that likes to fiddle with toys.
Machines and ProTools can be good for certain things, but to edit something in it's entirety, if that is indeed being done, is not music. It's computer work just like photoshopping a photograph.
Many different musical styles require one to play ahead or behind the beat. It's pretty common.
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You really are a rock player, aren't you? I can tell just by how you talk.
For one, it was pretty clear as to what I said, Yngwie picked up on it, why couldn't you? Then in the second post you actually understand and contradict what you said above.
In my field, playing off the beat is what is requested. I've been in the studio plenty, and all of the people I perform with have the same opinion as I do for our music that we play.
If you have an engineer going through any stuff and using a program like ProTools to edit the time structure (not the measure as you said in your other post...I'm talking in relation to the beat...not in relation to 4/4 or 6/8 etc...) shouldn't be going through an entire song/solo to fix things. If he has to do that, then you hired the wrong player. Call someone else. Or the engineer is just a frustrated musician that likes to fiddle with toys.
Machines and ProTools can be good for certain things, but to edit something in it's entirety, if that is indeed being done, is not music. It's computer work just like photoshopping a photograph.
Feel free to post some playing..
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i just started "playing" somewhat seriously about a year and a half ago. i've been destroying all there is to respect about the guitar for about 11 years now. when i learned about keys and chord progressions, my head about exploded. when i learned the notes on the fretboard, i immediately improved by 300 percent in a week. if i knew how much it mattered 11 years ago. :'(
anyways, i always envy guys who know how to play. i don't mean copy the solo in stairway, i mean really play. my first day in college, i was raping some song on my bc rich mockingbird through my crate 15watt solid state amp, when this dude walks in, goes "you're out of tune", tunes my guitar and plays the star spangled banner (hendrix version) all the way through. then he goes "just let me know when you need me to tune your guitar" and walks out.
i didn't plug in for the rest of that semester.
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i just started "playing" somewhat seriously about a year and a half ago. i've been destroying all there is to respect about the guitar for about 11 years now. when i learned about keys and chord progressions, my head about exploded. when i learned the notes on the fretboard, i immediately improved by 300 percent in a week. if i knew how much it mattered 11 years ago. :'(
anyways, i always envy guys who know how to play. i don't mean copy the solo in stairway, i mean really play. my first day in college, i was raping some song on my bc rich mockingbird through my crate 15watt solid state amp, when this dude walks in, goes "you're out of tune", tunes my guitar and plays the star spangled banner (hendrix version) all the way through. then he goes "just let me know when you need me to tune your guitar" and walks out.
i didn't plug in for the rest of that semester.
Just wait till you learn all the off neck harmonics and what notes they are!
best thing you can do when starting to play guitar is learn all the notes (in octaves) and where they repeat all throughout the neck, that right there will save you 2 years of bumbling around
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no doubt.
for instance, i learned that most musicians (chili peppers, smashing pumpkins, etc) stick to one key only (mostly C) and never stray from it.
this of course, made me appreciate guitarists that don't get as much recognition for being guitar gods (andy summers, keith richards, etc).
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no doubt.
for instance, i learned that most musicians (chili peppers, smashing pumpkins, etc) stick to one key only (mostly C) and never stray from it.
this of course, made me appreciate guitarists that don't get as much recognition for being guitar gods (andy summers, keith richards, etc).
One of my favorite underrated guys is Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits, his fingers are magic, same with more recognized guys like Gilmour who probably has the most ridiculous tone ever heard in music.
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Many different musical styles require one to play ahead or behind the beat. It's pretty common.
This I know...I'm not making a generalization...Capt is.
Feel free to post some playing..
No need to, you couldn't tell if something was behind or ahead of the beat if it bit you on the ass. Typical guitarist you are, you're the reason I often hate telling people I play...
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This I know...I'm not making a generalization...Capt is.
No need to, you couldn't tell if something was behind or ahead of the beat if it bit you on the ass. Typical guitarist you are, you're the reason I often hate telling people I play...
I figured you have no idea how to play, take some lessons the guitar is an instrument almost anyone can learn!
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This I know...I'm not making a generalization...Capt is.
I was agreeing with you. :)
Playing off time is used in virtually every style of legit music. Man, the foundation of swing music is playing ahead or behind the beat. It's all about the groove. Texas swing is ahead of the beat. A lot of sax music is played behind the beat.
Red Garland is known for playing ahead of the beat which is intended to 'push' the music forward.
May wanna check out some Lester Young too.
There's a huge difference Cap, between being unable to play on time and intentionally playing off time.
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I was agreeing with you. :)
Playing off time is used in virtually every style of legit music. Man, the foundation of swing music is playing ahead or behind the beat. It's all about the groove. Texas swing is ahead of the beat. A lot of sax music is played behind the beat.
Red Garland is known for playing ahead of the beat which is intended to 'push' the music forward.
May wanna check out some Lester Young too.
There's a huge difference Cap, between being unable to play on time and intentionally playing off time.
LOL, yes I stated that about 10 posts ago, you guys seemed to have missed it.
Obviously there are styles of music that focus on playing off the beat, rock isn;t one of those styles, and guitars are for the most part associated with rock and or metal not texas swing or etc.
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A few guys that inspire me to pick up my Martin stringbox everyday:
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No need to, you couldn't tell if something was behind or ahead of the beat if it bit you on the ass. Typical guitarist you are, you're the reason I often hate telling people I play...
This sounds "oh so familiar" -- same here. It took me years to post up vids of my "guitarring" on GB. This is a bodybuilding forum. What can we expect?
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LOL, yes I stated that about 10 posts ago, you guys seemed to have missed it.
Obviously there are styles of music that focus on playing off the beat, rock isn;t one of those styles, and guitars are for the most part associated with rock and or metal not texas swing or etc.
Most great guitar players are influence by much more than rock and it shows in their playing. What's called a 'grace-note' in rock in many times a note which leads into the beat. It's a rock staple. It's an off-time note.
Listen to Yngwie improvise live and you can hear how he plays around the beat.
Many jazz influenced metal players too, will be playing around the beat. Check out the guitar players in Scar Symmetry, Opeth, Daath or listen to Chris Poland's stuff.
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This sounds "oh so familiar" -- same here. It took me years to post up vids of my "guitarring" on GB. This is a bodybuilding forum. What can we expect?
Yeah, I gave up the 'competition' thing 20 years ago..lol.
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I figured you have no idea how to play, take some lessons the guitar is an instrument almost anyone can learn!
Same bat time, same bat channel. You're doing the same shit on here you've always done. Almost as bad as Squadfather, but not as creative (especially the second time around) and your arguments are as ambiguous as Sasha. I'm not comparing my playing to anyone. I'm merely describing things I'm seeing in your posts, in which you then come back a post or two later and try to say you said that before. ::)
As far as playing, I'm nothing flashy, guys like Yngwie and dyslexic play circles around me. You probably do to. And you know what, I don't care. I play what I do because I prefer to play what I do. That's the beauty of free will. Just like you posting here, however much I may disagree with you on certain points I still see what you're trying to say. However, you come back with some pedantic remark trying to sound really smart. You're a stolid man, Capt.
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Same bat time, same bat channel. You're doing the same shit on here you've always done. Almost as bad as Squadfather, but not as creative (especially the second time around) and your arguments are as ambiguous as Sasha. I'm not comparing my playing to anyone. I'm merely describing things I'm seeing in your posts, in which you then come back a post or two later and try to say you said that before. ::)
As far as playing, I'm nothing flashy, guys like Yngwie and dyslexic play circles around me. You probably do to. And you know what, I don't care. I play what I do because I prefer to play what I do. That's the beauty of free will. Just like you posting here, however much I may disagree with you on certain points I still see what you're trying to say. However, you come back with some pedantic remark trying to sound really smart. You're a stolid man, Capt.
Good post, I mean that. You've completed redeemed yourself with this post!
no hard feelings :) I don't take anything on here too seriously, it's good that you don't either
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Someone jam this one out for me. Takes years to be able to play like this guy (see his gray hair?)
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Good post, I mean that. You've completed redeemed yourself with this post!
no hard feelings :) I don't take anything on here too seriously, it's good that you don't either
Shit.
Now I have to go look up "pedantic" and 'stolid' -- I was hoping that they were mis-spellings. Fuck me.
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Marc Ribo who plays on some of the Tom Waits stuff is really awesome.
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Someone jam this one out for me. Takes years to be able to play like this guy (see his gray hair?)
Great player Dyslexic. Good find man.
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Shit.
Now I have to go look up "pedantic" and 'stolid' -- I was hoping that they were mis-spellings. Fuck me.
Obtuse and childish ;)
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As far as playing, I'm nothing flashy, I play the blues like I was born in the wrong era 8)
You handle the strings like a pro .. this I know ;) :-*
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I think a picker of any style will appreciate and enjoy this one. Three masters havin' fun:
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You handle the strings like a pro .. this I know ;) :-*
Thank you kindly my love :-*
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Playing relaxed and with proper breathing is one the keys to playing with great technique. Good vids. Everyone I come across is a fan of Andy McKee these days.
Can't talk about guitars without these two gents...sans Al from that other famous night.
Both direct influences on my playing.
My all time favs as well, together with Al, simply amazing ;)
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Another young player to keep an eye on. Jazz this time.
Though Andreas hasnt got his execution down pat as yet, for his age, the kid is amazing. In time he hill be a force to be reckoned with.
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Check out Kevin Levrone's Fullblown!!!!!!
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Always liked the classical guitarist Maurizio Colonna as well. Here with Frank Gambale (vid cut short tho) from the Imagery Suite album.
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Ron Wood-"the two best guitarist I ever heard were Hendrix and SRV"
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My all time favs as well, together with Al, simply amazing ;)
Yep, love that show. Learned how to pick fast by watching Al and Paul Gil...something...
Saw Al on the World Sinfonia tour in '93 at the Jazz Fest here. Awesome, awesome show.
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my goal by the end of the year is to learn all along the watchtower (hendrix).
right now i'm at the "dweedlee dweedlee dee" part, about 30 seconds in.
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my goal by the end of the year is to learn all along the watchtower (hendrix).
right now i'm at the "dweedlee dweedlee dee" part, about 30 seconds in.
Great tune. Have fun man.
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my goal by the end of the year is to learn all along the watchtower (hendrix).
right now i'm at the "dweedlee dweedlee dee" part, about 30 seconds in.
That's the most difficult portion of in depth music theory right there. We all hated the "Dweedle Dee 101" class...
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my goal by the end of the year is to learn all along the watchtower (hendrix).
right now i'm at the "dweedlee dweedlee dee" part, about 30 seconds in.
It's going to take you a year to learn 'all along the watch tower' the fucking verse is only x3 chords.
The solo might take you a bit of time, but it's all Pentatonic, you just need a (original cry baby) wha wha, & your done.
Ah well, at least we still have o'l 'snail pace slim' & the hamsters.
PT
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Ron Wood-"the two best guitarist I ever heard were Hendrix and SRV"
& here is what Hendrix was doing around the same time, light years ahead mate
Live at the BBC in 69, what was Clapton doing with the guitar at the time, oh yeah walking off stage with it, after getting blown away by Hendrix when Cream let him get up & jam with them
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Just to remind you, we could have had this, & we got Clapton instead, FFS. The thing that fucks me off is that 'SRV' only got that Chopper because he had a flight to catch, so Clapton let him have his seat, mother-fucker!!
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I was lucky enough as a youngster to see SRV from the seventh row 8)
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Ron Wood-"the two best guitarist I ever heard were Hendrix and SRV"
Love the Ronnie Wood radio show. Has really grown on me. If you haven't heard it, give it a listen.
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I was lucky enough as a youngster to see SRV from the seventh row 8)
You luck bastard, I saw 'Bill Hicks' play the Dominion in 91, so there!!
Did you her that version of 'Johnny b goode' that Jimmy did at Berkely, fucking awesome, he blew every-fucker away with his covers, Chuck Berry, the Beatles (sgt pepper), Dylan (all along the watch tower, like a rolling stone), Cream (sunshine of your love), etc.
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Herman Ree and Johnny Ramone.
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that "hamsters" version blows.
as for the ramones, they're one of the original generation nothinginess.
jack white's style of music reminds me of the ramones because as my friend says "learning a jack white song gives you instant satisfaction".
it takes about 4 minutes to learn a 3 minute (typical) jack white song. of course some are more complex, but 90% of the time it's 4 chord rock.
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that "hamsters" version blows.
as for the ramones, they're one of the original generation nothinginess.
jack white's style of music reminds me of the ramones because as my friend says "learning a jack white song gives you instant satisfaction".
it takes about 4 minutes to learn a 3 minute (typical) jack white song. of course some are more complex, but 90% of the time it's 4 chord rock.
yeah...same with Green day. My nephew wanted to learn some so I played a couple songs on the computer then worked it out in like 5 minutes. Meanwhile he is looking at tabs...lol. I told him for green day you are better off listening to it then try to figure it out. After he got the song down pretty good he looks back in guitar tab. I ask him what is he looking up and he says Smoke on the Water... :-\. I told him he was a fucking idiot and walked out.
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yeah...same with Green day. My nephew wanted to learn some so I played a couple songs on the computer then worked it out in like 5 minutes. Meanwhile he is looking at tabs...lol. I told him for green day you are better off listening to it then try to figure it out. After he got the song down pretty good he looks back in guitar tab. I ask him what is he looking up and he says Smoke on the Water... :-\. I told him he was a fucking idiot and walked out.
Haha! epic
I gotta add this to the fray because it's downright insane, :o :o :o
the lick at 1:53 is absolutely sickening!!!!! so fluid and lush
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Ron Wood-"the two best guitarist I ever heard were Hendrix and SRV"
That's just one junkies opinion 8).
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This guy worked in the guitarshop I did, he left just before I started though. He got spotted by Tommy Emmanuelle shortly after, he's young as fuck and I believe one of the best in the world, similar style to Emmanuelle in a lot of ways.
Fucking cool!
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Haha! epic
I gotta add this to the fray because it's downright insane, :o :o :o
the lick at 1:53 is absolutely sickening!!!!! so fluid and lush
LOVE IT! He did break every string in the end... odd!
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Emmanuelle is actually the daddy:
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This is a long time friend of mine, now considered one of the best guitarists in Canada, he is a kid (I've known him since he was 16) now he's 24 or 25, he studied at the conservatory and won best classical guitarist for ontario and canada by the time he was 17,18.. his guitar playing is ridiculous , fucking ridiculous there is NOTHING he can't play. His name is Ewan Dobbson
He's a little wacky (smokes a lot of weed) and that is him playing the 5th caprice NOTE FOR NOTE ON A F*CKING ACOUSTIC!!!@!@!!
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This is a long time friend of mine, now considered one of the best guitarists in Canada, he is a kid (I've known him since he was 16) now he's 24 or 25, he studied at the conservatory and won best classical guitarist for ontario and canada by the time he was 17,18.. his guitar playing is ridiculous , fucking ridiculous there is NOTHING he can't play. His name is Ewan Dobbson
He's a little wacky (smokes a lot of weed) and that is him playing the 5th caprice NOTE FOR NOTE ON A F*CKING ACOUSTIC!!!@!@!!
Damn clean, fast and simply extremely well done! There was one point at 53sec where the video did something a little fishy, but something tells me this dude is the real deal.
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Damn clean, fast and simply extremely well done! There was one point at 53sec where the video did something a little fishy, but something tells me this dude is the real deal.
are you kidding?
that guy sucks, his guitar wasn't even a 7 or 8 string, he had no overdrive and almost no use of the wah pedal.
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Damn clean, fast and simply extremely well done! There was one point at 53sec where the video did something a little fishy, but something tells me this dude is the real deal.
He lives, breathes and dreams guitar, practices 7-8 hours a day, and I don't mean fucking around with chords on an electric, I mean full out blazing on acoustic/classical... you know how some guys were just born to play guitar? guys like Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Malmsteen, Steve Vai ??? he's one of those guys, he has perfect pitch.
I've never heard him make a mistake once or play out of tune the guy is 100%
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He's a good player but if he used lagato more the notes would be clearer and smoother instead of that nasty picking sound.
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He's a good player but if he used lagato more the notes would be clearer and smoother instead of that nasty picking sound.
He's classically trained, I don't think he ever got that much into legato, he plays the most jaw dropping ridiculous sweep arpeggio's you've ever seen though, I mean like Frank Gambale right across the neck from 1st fret to 24th and back. He's a little out there really into Zappa and other weird shit, kind of like Buckethead just out there.
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Emmanuelle is actually the daddy:
if he just had a set of DR's and a good flanger he'd be topping the charts.
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You luck bastard, I saw 'Bill Hicks' play the Dominion in 91, so there!!
Did you her that version of 'Johnny b goode' that Jimmy did at Berkely, fucking awesome, he blew every-fucker away with his covers, Chuck Berry, the Beatles (sgt pepper), Dylan (all along the watch tower, like a rolling stone), Cream (sunshine of your love), etc.
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Never......I've been pretty lucky in that my bro is in the industry so I've met and been to a ton of shows.
.....trivia time,who was the first act to play Sgt. Peppers lonely heart club band live?
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I've been practicing a bit lately.
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My gear down at the rehearsal area.
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haha! ;D ;D ;D
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I didn't post that vid for you guys to brag about your gear ::)
I did it so you can tell me how awesome i have become!!! ;D
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I didn't post that vid for you guys to brag about your gear ::)
I did it so you can tell me how awesome i have become!!! ;D
You play like shit. Hope this helps.
J/K :D.
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I didn't post that vid for you guys to brag about your gear ::)
I did it so you can tell me how awesome i have become!!! ;D
;D
Shreddddd......
Good playing though dude.
For a laugh, type the name of my guitar into Google/bing and check out the first video result...hehe.
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Awesome 8)
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Cummon guys sweeps and legato. Spice it up a little
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Lets hear someone play the beat it solo
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Common guys everyone knows true tasteful musiciality is about........fuck it, how many notes per second can you play? I can do 25 :D
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OK all time favourites:
Dutch: Jak Akkerman, Eelco Gelling, George Kooyman, Adje (Adrian) Vandenberg, Eddie Van Halen, Harry Sacksioni.
Foreign (for me): Steve Vai, Yngwy Malmsteen, Michael Schenker, Robin Trower, Richie Blackmore, Johnny Winter, Iron maiden guitarists, Rory Gallagher, Gary Moore, Mick Box, Frank Zappa RIP.
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Common guys everyone knows true tasteful musiciality is about........fuck it, how many notes per second can you play? I can do 25 :D
Sweet 8)
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I've always thought that Wind instruments were the hardest to play........I found it easier to learn guitar than to start blowing a trumpet
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Shreddddd......
are you on low carbs?
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are you on low carbs?
Don't do low carb just low cal.
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Don't do low carb just low cal.
cool.
Thanks to you I just busted up my guitar and threw it away. I give up.
J/K.. :D (but somewhat serious) :-\
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It's a shame what he has become.....he is one of my all time favorites. Great BB genetics too! ;D
In better days.........
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I personally find this kind of stuff more impressive than all that metal shredding....forward to about a minute in where he starts playing.
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