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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The_Leafy_Bug on November 08, 2011, 08:41:15 PM
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What do you recommend i do from here? I seem to be stuck at this body weight. I want to stay leaner this year so im just keeping the protein high and backing off carbs. I got too fat last year and going up to 215 was a mistake so im sticking here and trying to harden up. Discuss... ;D
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where are the orange prisoner outfit? lol ill respond later to it i need to go take a dump
gh15 approved
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lol
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lol
Hook, line, sinker... Stay out of my thread i don't feel comfortable with you near my shirtless pictures.
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tbombz looks like shit
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Hook, line, sinker... Stay out of my thread i don't feel comfortable with you near my shirtless pictures.
looking HOOOOOOOOOOOOGE bro ;D
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is 215 your heaviest?
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is 215 your heaviest?
220 was my heaviest.
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Leafy your clean in that pic right?
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where are the orange prisoner outfit? lol ill respond later to it i need to go take a dump
gh15 approved
George, right now im not really eating that much and im maintaining weight suprisingly. I don't want to get as fat as i did last year in the offseason because i wan't to improve my conditioning. I am getting stronger out of no where but i just don't see the growth. Am i just being impatient?
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Brb in 24 hrs
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Brb in 24 hrs
:D :D
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Brb in 24 hrs
Y cant u answer my question.....
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Leafy why are you so afraid of getting fat again? I know you said you want to look like Kuclo but did you see what Kuclo looked like for the majority of the past few years? There was some pics of him with Trop at age 21 smooth as shit at 290 face looked like a pumpkin.
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clen + ephedrina 24/7 bro
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What do you recommend i do from here? I seem to be stuck at this body weight. I want to stay leaner this year so im just keeping the protein high and backing off carbs. I got too fat last year and going up to 215 was a mistake so im sticking here and trying to harden up. Discuss... ;D
you hold water,, you dont hodl fat,, you need to gain some bodyfat and you need to increae doses of gh ,, you are in a situation where the only thing that will advance you is growth hormone trenbolona equipona and testosterona mix in specific and increasing doses
i will elaborate more when i have more time
gh15 approved
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Why would any responsible adult post such dangerous drug advice to a young guy who wants to get more size? This site has gone to the dogs. gh15 should be put on a barge and towed outside the 200 mile limit and left there.
Get back in the gym and train for a few more years.
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Are bombz and leafy related - the bb world seems to be a small one.
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go training or go home ;D
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Why would any responsible adult post such dangerous drug advice to a young guy who wants to get more size? This site has gone to the dogs. gh15 should be put on a barge and towed outside the 200 mile limit and left there.
Get back in the gym and train for a few more years.
How is your training experiment going?
We haven't heard from you in some time!
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Stay away from immigration officials.
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Gh-15 is advise for a guy who openly admits he cannot progress anymore with what he has doing! Gh15 gives him the answer the solution to the problem. Please give your answer to the problem rather than dish his and we will see how it stacks up in comparsion? ;)
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Gh-15 is advise for a guy who openly admits he cannot progress anymore with what he has doing! Gh15 gives him the answer the solution to the problem. Please give your answer to the problem rather than dish his and we will see how it stacks up in comparsion? ;)
As always,the answer is..............UP THE DOSAGE!!
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add some olive oil to your diet
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As always,the answer is..............UP THE DOSAGE!!
and this is correct,, up the dosage of specific compounds!,, make sure you have specific products in blood ,, it has to be specific compound with no off time,, such as HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES....such as insulina timing if you do insulina and ofcourse the one you cant do with out TRENBOLONA ACE in specific timings and you have to be consistant with those products....otherwize all you build is bunch of water fat and little to no muscle tissue,,
remember 190 is nto alwys same 190...same for 250...the probelm is a 250 fella already is addict of hgh he lives on hgh and will stesal and lie for hgh ,, this is why bodybuild become criminal activity now day because of that fact,, but a 190 is not yet addict he just use what he can and the climb from 190 to 220 250 happen sadly when you become a fellon in most cases,,in some cases if you get sponsership you can do better but dont haev any doubt....most fellas here the failed ones like white widow 180 5'6 etc...those are the ones who became addicts and didnt get anywhere...same for mike arneld who you saw his picture that i keep getting pictures of this fella and i actualy feel sad for him but same for him he is narcotic addict,,
so thats that
gh15 approved
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Why would any responsible adult post such dangerous drug advice to a young guy who wants to get more size? This site has gone to the dogs. gh15 should be put on a barge and towed outside the 200 mile limit and left there.
Get back in the gym and train for a few more years.
Spot on.
Ron has allowed this gimmick to ruin this page
It's all one big steroid board now
Why cant guys pm this gh15 character...
site completely gone to the dogs
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Spot on.
Ron has allowed this gimmick to ruin this page
It's all one big steroid board now
Why cant guys pm this gh15 character...
site completely gone to the dogs
because they want liars like yourself! to face their lies every single day and have to read it and be frastrated that their lies cant hold where real bodybuild sit!,, you can lie to jude from liverpool that just turn 19 and enter ymca ,, but you cant lie to a bodybuilder! this! is why you are thought a lesson for all this years,, this is why it goes on ,,
and! the getbig site is the most famous on internet,, gh15 got so famous that a page on wikipedia the generation nothingness computer encyclopedia will have gh15 on it,,
while other boardings live a lie! getbig live the truth... AND EVERYONE come here to read the truth ,, EVERY SINGLE ONE IN BODYBUILDING CULT COME HERE TO READ ME BE SURE OF THAT,, there is not ONE SINGLE FELLA IN BODYBUILD AND BEYOND that doesnt know who gh15 is not even one!
gh15 approved
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Spot on.
Ron has allowed this gimmick to ruin this page
It's all one big steroid board now
Why cant guys pm this gh15 character...
site completely gone to the dogs
SHUT UR SKANK MOUTH U DUMB SLUT.
ANYWAYS, LEAFY...INCREASE THE DRUGS AND GET MORE WEIGHT(AND MORE LBM), OR JUST INCREASE THE FOOD AND GET MORE WEIGHT(AND MORE FAT).
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What do you recommend i do from here? I seem to be stuck at this body weight. I want to stay leaner this year so im just keeping the protein high and backing off carbs. I got too fat last year and going up to 215 was a mistake so im sticking here and trying to harden up. Discuss... ;D
You need to lower estrogen in your body that will lower your body fat and show your abs without losing muscle make a diet including some of the following foods, Broccoli, cauliflower , cabbage, bell peppers, mangoes, pineapples , fish, brown rice, whole eggs, nuts, avacados, Remember that even a top pro on a shit load of roids has to go on a diet to really get cut.
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You need to lower estrogen in your body that will lower your body fat and show your abs without losing muscle make a diet including some of the following foods, Broccoli, cauliflower , cabbage, bell peppers, mangoes, pineapples , fish, brown rice, whole eggs, nuts, avacados, Remember that even a top pro on a shit load of roids has to go on a diet to really get cut.
Fuck off, fag, your input is not appreciated. 'the trainer', oh boy. ::)
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Stay away from immigration officials.
hahaha
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Fuck off, fag, your input is not appreciated. 'the trainer', oh boy. ::)
unlike you I actually know about bodybuilding, you are so dumb you cannot even do an injection properly the only thing you are good at is taking a dick up the ass.
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because they want liars like yourself! to face their lies every single day and have to read it and be frastrated that their lies cant hold where real bodybuild sit!,, you can lie to jude from liverpool that just turn 19 and enter ymca ,, but you cant lie to a bodybuilder! this! is why you are thought a lesson for all this years,, this is why it goes on ,,
and! the getbig site is the most famous on internet,, gh15 got so famous that a page on wikipedia the generation nothingness computer encyclopedia will have gh15 on it,,
while other boardings live a lie! getbig live the truth... AND EVERYONE come here to read the truth ,, EVERY SINGLE ONE IN BODYBUILDING CULT COME HERE TO READ ME BE SURE OF THAT,, there is not ONE SINGLE FELLA IN BODYBUILD AND BEYOND that doesnt know who gh15 is not even one!
gh15 approved
Top 6 at the Olympia and brags about a page some idiot made up about him on Wikipedia.
This guy probably never set foot on a stage at all.
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You need to lower estrogen in your body that will lower your body fat and show your abs without losing muscle make a diet including some of the following foods, Broccoli, cauliflower , cabbage, bell peppers, mangoes, pineapples , fish, brown rice, whole eggs, nuts, avacados, Remember that even a top pro on a shit load of roids has to go on a diet to really get cut.
Fucked up info there "trainer'.
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because they want liars like yourself! to face their lies every single day and have to read it and be frastrated that their lies cant hold where real bodybuild sit!,, you can lie to jude from liverpool that just turn 19 and enter ymca ,, but you cant lie to a bodybuilder! this! is why you are thought a lesson for all this years,, this is why it goes on ,,
and! the getbig site is the most famous on internet,, gh15 got so famous that a page on wikipedia the generation nothingness computer encyclopedia will have gh15 on it,,
while other boardings live a lie! getbig live the truth... AND EVERYONE come here to read the truth ,, EVERY SINGLE ONE IN BODYBUILDING CULT COME HERE TO READ ME BE SURE OF THAT,, there is not ONE SINGLE FELLA IN BODYBUILD AND BEYOND that doesnt know who gh15 is not even one!
gh15 approved
quoted for TRUTH!
motherfuckers wanna sit around and bitch all day why they can't get big like the pro's and then come to the dumb ass, jackwagon conclusion that the pro's must just have some super alien genetics that everyone else doesn't.... wake the fuck up people! this is chemical warfare at the highest level.
and yes gh15 is a fucking superstar now, i can't even log onto other boards now without getting 20 fucking pm's about "hey b-boy where can i find the gh15 bible"....LOL :)
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quoted for TRUTH!
motherfuckers wanna sit around and bitch all day why they can't get big like the pro's and then come to the dumb ass, jackwagon conclusion that the pro's must just have some super alien genetics that everyone else doesn't.... wake the fuck up people! this is chemical warfare at the highest level.
and yes gh15 is a fucking superstar now, i can't even log onto other boards now without getting 20 fucking pm's about "hey b-boy where can i find the gh15 bible"....LOL :)
how old are you? let's see what you say in 5 years time.
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how old are you? let's see what you say in 5 years time.
just turned 40 today bro ;D (happy b-day to ME)!
and i will say the same in 5 yrs from now when im still kicking ass on an IFBB pro stage! one of the advantages to not starting hormones till i was 30yrs old.
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Jesus Christ, 40? I thought you were 30 tops, lol. :o
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SHUT UR SKANK MOUTH U DUMB SLUT.
ANYWAYS, LEAFY...INCREASE THE DRUGS AND GET MORE WEIGHT(AND MORE LBM), OR JUST INCREASE THE FOOD AND GET MORE WEIGHT(AND MORE FAT).
tough from behind a keyboard....
ron needs to ban this gh15 character or give him a board
so thos who want to ask him questions or read his fucking stupidness can go there
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this board is now shit.....
and that official....
i get pms all the time aboyt this a lot of people feel the same way...
not everyone cares about drugs or the fucking nonsense this gimmick talks about
if u have a question for him why not just friggin PM him.
anyway sometimes you have to let a fire BURN itself out....
his time will come... until then
Im very disappointed in the mods and ron for allowing this nonsense to carry on this long ....
anyway
leg day
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mes out
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Fucked up info there "trainer'.
Wrong I have actually put clients on a diet to lower estrogen levels and it lowered their bodyfat, their abs are now visible and they did not lose any muscle. maybe if you where on my diet you could have a future as a solid bodybuilder.
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Wrong I have actually put clients on a diet to lower estrogen levels and it lowered their bodyfat, their abs are now visible and they did not lose any muscle. maybe if you where on my diet you could have a future as a solid bodybuilder.
wes has been a solid bber a loonnnggg time,,,,,
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wes has been a solid bber a loonnnggg time,,,,,
Well image where he would be now if was on a diet from a professional nutritionist.
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tough from behind a keyboard....
ron needs to ban this gh15 character or give him a board
so thos who want to ask him questions or read his fucking stupidness can go there
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this board is now shit.....
and that official....
i get pms all the time aboyt this a lot of people feel the same way...
not everyone cares about drugs or the fucking nonsense this gimmick talks about
if u have a question for him why not just friggin PM him.
anyway sometimes you have to let a fire BURN itself out....
his time will come... until then
Im very disappointed in the mods and ron for allowing this nonsense to carry on this long ....
anyway
leg day
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mes out
Leave so
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it hgh time ,,
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Top 6 at the Olympia and brags about a page some idiot made up about him on Wikipedia.
This guy probably never set foot on a stage at all.
listen you old retard,,at 50--60 year old and never achieved a damn thing in bodybuild,, i woud shut my mouth ,, you been abusing drugs now for 30 years and got no where,, no family ,, no nothing,, sit there on high strugs moody not moody dependign what shit you are on and lecture..
when you get a wickopedia it is big deal ,, very few internet names as in INTRNET NAMES since gh15 is internet name ...ever got qikopedia ,,infact no one has! gh15 will be most likley first one
not only you have no clue about the cult of bodybuild....but you have no clue about how to get YORUSELF into a place where you can make money out of bodybuild! sad if you ask me
you kiss where the wind blows..you knwo that sentence,, those are the ones who go with the mob...you are the type of fella that go where ever there is more noise...you go there ,, this is usually called TRATOR in real life,, i cant stand fellas like you
gh15 approved
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Taking all those dangerous drugs is both foolish and unnecessary. I could train Leafy and get him much bigger. It wouldn't take too long, either. Absolutely no drugs or supplements are necessary.
This drugs all year bullshit has got to stop. gh15 is NOT an expert in bodybuilding. Two years ago this character was insisting he time travels. He said the Republican candidate would be president. How much more nonsense can one character spew on Getbig before the dullest of the Flotsam wake up?
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I don't know what is worse - the hysteria or the hypocrisy?
I don't post much but I've lurked around these boards (admittedly only the gossip and training ones) for a good few years now.
I trained for years naturally, I've used gear, been through life, had many experiences good and bad (related to bodybuilding lifestyle).
I have no idea who GH15 is, don't particularly care either.
But I have actually bothered to read his posts, reasonably carefully. I don't slavishly follow anybody's advice, by the way, my knowledge and bb intelligence has been amassed from observing others, but largely doing my own thing - making my own mistakes, trying to find out what works etc.
Just recently I went through the majority of GH15's posts and in those areas, where I have some knowledge I have found that his ideas pretty much mirror my own. So for me alot of what he says I agree with by dint of personal observation and experimentation. I can't comment on everything he says because i don't have the requisite experience but what I can say is that I am far more likely to ask his advice, based on what he has thus far provided, than bend the ear of most of the so called other gurus.
If he is some basement 100 pound gimmick (which I doubt) then to me, he is probably an idiot savant because he clearly knows alot, and alot of factual stuff. But from the way I interpret his stuff I will be very suprised to find out (if we ever do) that he wasn't a very experienced bodybuilder. Either way he clearly has a passion for this game and despite some of his ramblings, the content that I am interested in has been an education for me and like I say a breath of fresh air compared to the much of the BS that permeates the cult.
Anyways - as far as I was aware we live in a democracy - ideas and information should and must be allowed to flow freely. GH15 maybe controversial for many reasons but in amongst all the hysteria, mystery and hypocrisy GH15's primary message, I think, is pretty clear and consistent. If you are a reasonably normal, sane and intelligent human being then his advice and information isn't going to present too many problems for you. If you are a moron then if you take any advice from anybody you are still going to be a moron.
Just my two cents.
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I don't know what is worse - the hysteria or the hypocrisy?
I don't post much but I've lurked around these boards (admittedly only the gossip and training ones) for a good few years now.
I trained for years naturally, I've used gear, been through life, had many experiences good and bad (related to bodybuilding lifestyle).
I have no idea who GH15 is, don't particularly care either.
But I have actually bothered to read his posts, reasonably carefully. I don't slavishly follow anybody's advice, by the way, my knowledge and bb intelligence has been amassed from observing others, but largely doing my own thing - making my own mistakes, trying to find out what works etc.
Just recently I went through the majority of GH15's posts and in those areas, where I have some knowledge I have found that his ideas pretty much mirror my own. So for me alot of what he says I agree with by dint of personal observation and experimentation. I can't comment on everything he says because i don't have the requisite experience but what I can say is that I am far more likely to ask his advice, based on what he has thus far provided, than bend the ear of most of the so called other gurus.
If he is some basement 100 pound gimmick (which I doubt) then to me, he is probably an idiot savant because he clearly knows alot, and alot of factual stuff. But from the way I interpret his stuff I will be very suprised to find out (if we ever do) that he wasn't a very experienced bodybuilder. Either way he clearly has a passion for this game and despite some of his ramblings, the content that I am interested in has been an education for me and like I say a breath of fresh air compared to the much of the BS that permeates the cult.
Anyways - as far as I was aware we live in a democracy - ideas and information should and must be allowed to flow freely. GH15 maybe controversial for many reasons but in amongst all the hysteria, mystery and hypocrisy GH15's primary message, I think, is pretty clear and consistent. If you are a reasonably normal, sane and intelligent human being then his advice and information isn't going to present too many problems for you. If you are a moron then if you take any advice from anybody you are still going to be a moron.
Just my two cents.
Great post.
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listen you old retard,,at 50--60 year old and never achieved a damn thing in bodybuild,, i woud shut my mouth ,, you been abusing drugs now for 30 years and got no where,, no family ,, no nothing,, sit there on high strugs moody not moody dependign what shit you are on and lecture..
when you get a wickopedia it is big deal ,, very few internet names as in INTRNET NAMES since gh15 is internet name ...ever got qikopedia ,,infact no one has! gh15 will be most likley first one
not only you have no clue about the cult of bodybuild....but you have no clue about how to get YORUSELF into a place where you can make money out of bodybuild! sad if you ask me
you kiss where the wind blows..you knwo that sentence,, those are the ones who go with the mob...you are the type of fella that go where ever there is more noise...you go there ,, this is usually called TRATOR in real life,, i cant stand fellas like you
gh15 approved
Sorry to disaapoint you God !!
You are one funny fucker though.
I got a question for you ,no I won`t send it in a PM.........ready,here it is:
Q:What do the 3 people you hate most,Layne Norton,Ron Harris,and Mike Arnold,all have in common?
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THEY ALL POST UNDER THEIR REAL FUCKING NAMES!!
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Sorry to disaapoint you God !!
You are one funny fucker though.
I got a question for you ,no I won`t send it in a PM.........ready,here it is:
Q:What do the 3 people you hate most,Layne Norton,Ron Harris,and Mike Arnold,all have in common?
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THEY ALL POST UNDER THEIR REAL FUCKING NAMES!!
that's because they are such narcisissts, and also that is why they lie, it gives them an incentive to lie both to make money and to hide things not approved by the US govt
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Sorry to disaapoint you God !!
You are one funny fucker though.
I got a question for you ,no I won`t send it in a PM.........ready,here it is:
Q:What do the 3 people you hate most,Layne Norton,Ron Harris,and Mike Arnold,all have in common?
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THEY ALL POST UNDER THEIR REAL FUCKING NAMES!!
they all lie and for years,, ly notrom is not on any list he didnt comit crimes ,, the other 2...a diff DIFFFF story
gh15 approved
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that's because they are such narcisissts, and also that is why they lie, it gives them an incentive to lie both to make money and to hide things not approved by the US govt
Should they tell the Govt. anything that they may be doing that is illegal..............ass uming that they are of course?
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Should they tell the Govt. anything that they may be doing that is illegal..............ass uming that they are of course?
... so now do you understand why gh15 stayign anonymous means he can tell the truth?
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Sorry to disaapoint you God !!
You are one funny fucker though.
I got a question for you ,no I won`t send it in a PM.........ready,here it is:
Q:What do the 3 people you hate most,Layne Norton,Ron Harris,and Mike Arnold,all have in common?
A:
THEY ALL POST UNDER THEIR REAL FUCKING NAMES!!
Are you sure Mike Arnold is really Mike Arnold as in real first and last name? Not variations on his name, not second or third names, etc. I have no idea except I'd be surprised if that's the name he uses IRL.
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I call bullshit on guys who give advice like gh15. Luke Wood was following his dream and died for it. Maybe he made some mistakes but the reality is he died while still a young guy. That shouldn't happen to the guys here who want to be bodybuilders. If gh15's advice is sound and this is what you have to do to be a champion then bodybuilding is dead. This is lunacy. gh15 and others who advocate these banned substances should be banned and castigated. The authorities should find out who he is and lock him up. If I owned this site I would be ashamed of what it has become. Ron might like hanging around bodybuilding contests but he isn't a bodybuilder and probably never will be one.
gh15 takes absolutely no responsibility for his advice. If guys who follow that advice get sick or die who is to blame? I shake my head when I read this shit on this forum. It has gone too damn far.
Send Leafy to Sydney and I will make him a natural champion within 6 months. No drugs, no nothing. Just hard training and a balanced diet. I can guarantee it will work and he will be healthy afterwards. What has he got to lose? Come to Sydney because it is our summer now. Your arms will be two inches bigger within 4 months. No steroids, no growth hormone, no oil, no pills, no injections and no supplements. That is a big lie. You don't need drugs. It is all bullshit spewed by internet nobodies who aren't responsible for what they say.
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I call bullshit on guys who give advice like gh15. Luke Wood was following his dream and died for it. Maybe he made some mistakes but the reality is he died while still a young guy. That shouldn't happen to the guys here who want to be bodybuilders. If gh15's advice is sound and this is what you have to do to be a champion then bodybuilding is dead. This is lunacy. gh15 and others who advocate these banned substances should be banned and castigated. The authorities should find out who he is and lock him up. If I owned this site I would be ashamed of what it has become. Ron might like hanging around bodybuilding contests but he isn't a bodybuilder and probably never will be one.
gh15 takes absolutely no responsibility for his advice. If guys who follow that advice get sick or die who is to blame? I shake my head when I read this shit on this forum. It has gone too damn far.
Send Leafy to Sydney and I will make him a natural champion within 6 months. No drugs, no nothing. Just hard training and a balanced diet. I can guarantee it will work and he will be healthy afterwards. What has he got to lose? Come to Sydney because it is our summer now. Your arms will be two inches bigger within 4 months. No steroids, no growth hormone, no oil, no pills, no injections and no supplements. That is a big lie. You don't need drugs. It is all bullshit spewed by internet nobodies who aren't responsible for what they say.
Any updates on your arm project?
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I call bullshit on guys who give advice like gh15. Luke Wood was following his dream and died for it. Maybe he made some mistakes but the reality is he died while still a young guy. That shouldn't happen to the guys here who want to be bodybuilders. If gh15's advice is sound and this is what you have to do to be a champion then bodybuilding is dead. This is lunacy. gh15 and others who advocate these banned substances should be banned and castigated. The authorities should find out who he is and lock him up. If I owned this site I would be ashamed of what it has become. Ron might like hanging around bodybuilding contests but he isn't a bodybuilder and probably never will be one.
gh15 takes absolutely no responsibility for his advice. If guys who follow that advice get sick or die who is to blame? I shake my head when I read this shit on this forum. It has gone too damn far.
Send Leafy to Sydney and I will make him a natural champion within 6 months. No drugs, no nothing. Just hard training and a balanced diet. I can guarantee it will work and he will be healthy afterwards. What has he got to lose? Come to Sydney because it is our summer now. Your arms will be two inches bigger within 4 months. No steroids, no growth hormone, no oil, no pills, no injections and no supplements. That is a big lie. You don't need drugs. It is all bullshit spewed by internet nobodies who aren't responsible for what they say.
So you are saying if you followed what you say and were on steroids within 6 months you could have 4 extra inches on your arms ? :D
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I am not an expert in steroids so won't make any predictions re using them. A guy like Leafy has a good start so should respond to effective workouts using good equipment.
At the moment my arms are as big as they have been in the past which is quite pleasing. Exercise selection is more important than I thought. A similar exercise isn't as good as the effective one. Triceps need very specific equipment and technique to grow. I will see in the next month if I can get bigger arms than ever before. Today I will be modifiying my lying triceps machine to move the pulley higher. This should give more tension at the completion of the extensions. If it works I will modify the other men's lying extension machine.
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Lol at adding 2 inches to your arms in 4 months. I guess hes following the phil heath contest prep protocol
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I call bullshit on guys who give advice like gh15. Luke Wood was following his dream and died for it. Maybe he made some mistakes but the reality is he died while still a young guy. That shouldn't happen to the guys here who want to be bodybuilders. If gh15's advice is sound and this is what you have to do to be a champion then bodybuilding is dead. This is lunacy. gh15 and others who advocate these banned substances should be banned and castigated. The authorities should find out who he is and lock him up. If I owned this site I would be ashamed of what it has become. Ron might like hanging around bodybuilding contests but he isn't a bodybuilder and probably never will be one.
gh15 takes absolutely no responsibility for his advice. If guys who follow that advice get sick or die who is to blame? I shake my head when I read this shit on this forum. It has gone too damn far.
Send Leafy to Sydney and I will make him a natural champion within 6 months. No drugs, no nothing. Just hard training and a balanced diet. I can guarantee it will work and he will be healthy afterwards. What has he got to lose? Come to Sydney because it is our summer now. Your arms will be two inches bigger within 4 months. No steroids, no growth hormone, no oil, no pills, no injections and no supplements. That is a big lie. You don't need drugs. It is all bullshit spewed by internet nobodies who aren't responsible for what they say.
...all his muscle?
top level bb'ing has been about drugs for 40 years, vince. to say its 'dead' now, well, when was it ever really alive. niche endeavor from day one.
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Lol at adding 2 inches to your arms in 4 months. I guess hes following the phil heath contest prep protocol
Come to my gym and I will prove this is fair dinkum. If your arms are about 16 1/2 cold then they will be 18 in two months....totally natural. Leafy will get 2 inch bigger arms in 4 months.
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My arms are 17.5 cold when im
Clean
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Are you sure Mike Arnold is really Mike Arnold as in real first and last name? Not variations on his name, not second or third names, etc. I have no idea except I'd be surprised if that's the name he uses IRL.
No clue Van,was just using it as an example.
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All those guys saying that the OP could go further naturally... maybe he could, maybe he couldn't. It's all about genetics. But most people (in my experience) can't surpass 180-190lbs with <10% bodyfat at 5'9.
You need to lower estrogen in your body that will lower your body fat and show your abs without losing muscle make a diet including some of the following foods, Broccoli, cauliflower , cabbage, bell peppers, mangoes, pineapples , fish, brown rice, whole eggs, nuts, avacados, Remember that even a top pro on a shit load of roids has to go on a diet to really get cut.
What fucking bullshit. If you want to lower estrogen and get a harder body, why not take an AI or mast?
Wrong I have actually put clients on a diet to lower estrogen levels and it lowered their bodyfat, their abs are now visible and they did not lose any muscle. maybe if you where on my diet you could have a future as a solid bodybuilder.
You're so full of shit dude. You put your clients on a diet and it lowered their bodyfat... whoopdy doo! It's called CALORIES IN < CALORIES OUT, you motherfucking moron.
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Come to my gym and I will prove this is fair dinkum. If your arms are about 16 1/2 cold then they will be 18 in two months....totally natural. Leafy will get 2 inch bigger arms in 4 months.
You would not put a single millimeter on Leafy's arms after having him clean out. You couldn't even stop the inevitable loss of diameter as in loss of actual muscle tissue. Why do you talk about drug users when you admit you haven't a clue about drugs?
The only way his arms would "grow" is if you hit his arms with a ruler for a few hours every day and had him overtrain so they swelled up with fluid due to inflammation. OR if you fattened him up, but then it would be just that, fat.
You could put Leafy on all possible performance enhancing drugs AS well as your training program and those 2 inches would not happen in that time span. Not even close.
This guy has to be the biggest retard on this site, Howard included.
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Come to my gym and I will prove this is fair dinkum. If your arms are about 16 1/2 cold then they will be 18 in two months....totally natural. Leafy will get 2 inch bigger arms in 4 months.
How lean will he be though ? Anyone can put size on by eating alot more and training but how much is muscle vs fat and water.
To put an inch on an advanced trainer like leafy he will be looking at a 10 - 15 pound body weight increase, so a 20 - 30 pd increase in bodyweight for 2 inches of lean tissue in 4 months . Sorry Vince no way , he couldnt do that with steroids , they speed up recovery and put size on faster than a natty could ever dream of but even with the help of thee drugs he couldnt do that - lean mass here not fat, 2 inches of fat/muscle/water then yes but he will look like ass.
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You would not put a single millimeter on Leafy's arms after having him clean out. You couldn't even stop the inevitable loss of diameter as in loss of actual muscle tissue. Why do you talk about drug users when you admit you haven't a clue about drugs?
The only way his arms would "grow" is if you hit his arms with a ruler for a few hours every day and had him overtrain so they swelled up with fluid due to inflammation. OR if you fattened him up, but then it would be just that, fat.
You could put Leafy on all possible performance enhancing drugs AS well as your training program and those 2 inches would not happen in that time span. Not even close.
^THIS^
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as always, will grant and van b bringing the brutal truth.
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as always, will grant and van b bringing the brutal truth.
Indeed.
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George, right now im not really eating that much and im maintaining weight suprisingly. I don't want to get as fat as i did last year in the offseason because i wan't to improve my conditioning. I am getting stronger out of no where but i just don't see the growth. Am i just being impatient?
So gh15 is George. Leafy have u ever used gh. You don't have the gh shoulders that gh15 describes.
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when van_b cusses at u u know u fucked up, that is like my mother throwing a shoe at me
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Why would any responsible adult post such dangerous drug advice to a young guy who wants to get more size? This site has gone to the dogs. gh15 should be put on a barge and towed outside the 200 mile limit and left there.
Get back in the gym and train for a few more years.
bodybuilding = drugs. deal with it.
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times 2..van b is one guy you don't fuck with.
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So gh15 is George. Leafy have u ever used gh. You don't have the gh shoulders that gh15 describes.
I don't have or experience much of the things he describes. Infact if i were to go on the reeses pieces ice cream diet id get pretty fat. From what i could gather from my national level experience and many of the vets i've talked to this is an old mans sport. I just found out bboy was 40 today. I was talking with another national level guy thinking he was 29 and later found out he was 40 as well. Kuclo was in this game since he was 15 so he has a good 10 years experience on him. I have about half that. I think it is just one of those things im going to have to stick out for the long run. I could end up being 30 before i get to the level of achievement that i personally want out of this sport; the level where i can say "ok this is good" and sleep well at night.
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I don't have or experience much of the things he describes. Infact if i were to go on the reeses pieces ice cream diet id get pretty fat. From what i could gather from my national level experience and many of the vets i've talked to this is an old mans sport. I just found out bboy was 40 today. I was talking with another national level guy thinking he was 29 and later found out he was 40 as well. Kuclo was in this game since he was 15 so he has a good 10 years experience on him. I have about half that. I think it is just one of those things im going to have to stick out for the long run. I could end up being 30 before i get to the level of achievement that i personally want out of this sport; the level where i can say "ok this is good" and sleep well at night.
Very good observation young man and attitude.
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You need to lower estrogen in your body that will lower your body fat and show your abs without losing muscle make a diet including some of the following foods, Broccoli, cauliflower , cabbage, bell peppers, mangoes, pineapples , fish, brown rice, whole eggs, nuts, avacados, Remember that even a top pro on a shit load of roids has to go on a diet to really get cut.
decent advice. not sure if there's an estrogen connection there, but i include all of those. only problem i have is: where's the meat? ???
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Very good observation young man and attitude.
You can definately be a pro,it just takes lots of time.
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Keep going and don`t look back bro..............you have what it takes.
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Sorry to disaapoint you God !!
You are one funny fucker though.
I got a question for you ,no I won`t send it in a PM.........ready,here it is:
Q:What do the 3 people you hate most,Layne Norton,Ron Harris,and Mike Arnold,all have in common?
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THEY ALL POST UNDER THEIR REAL FUCKING NAMES!!
yeah, that backfired on you big time. they lie to line their own pockets so of course they use their name. gh15 says things about hormones and the cult that he can not afford to be traced back to him. this is how it must be if we want the truth.
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You can definately be a pro,it just takes lots of time.
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Keep going and don`t look back bro..............you have what it takes.
Thanks wes. I bet you are having some pretty crazy thoughts about this being your last show coming up. It must be hard to give up that identity when you have had it for so long.
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Thanks wes. I bet you are having some pretty crazy thoughts about this being your last show coming up. It must be hard to give up that identity when you have had it for so long.
Only my last one this year Dan........still gonna` compete again next year.
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Only my last one this year Dan........still gonna` compete again next year.
Maybe i misread in that thread but i thought they said if you didn't requalify you were finished.
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yeah, that backfired on you big time. they lie to line their own pockets so of course they use their name. gh15 says things about hormones and the cult that he can not afford to be traced back to him. this is how it must be if we want the truth.
How are they lying,and why not make some bucks if you can?
Do you think gh15 isn`t lying about being a pro......if so don`t be so "goolible' ! ;D
Most people knew the truth anyway....up the dosage bigtime.
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Maybe i misread in that thread but i thought they said if you didn't requalify you were finished.
Yeah Stunt said that but he was mistaken.
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I am not an expert in steroids so won't make any predictions re using them. A guy like Leafy has a good start so should respond to effective workouts using good equipment.
At the moment my arms are as big as they have been in the past which is quite pleasing. Exercise selection is more important than I thought. A similar exercise isn't as good as the effective one. Triceps need very specific equipment and technique to grow. I will see in the next month if I can get bigger arms than ever before. Today I will be modifiying my lying triceps machine to move the pulley higher. This should give more tension at the completion of the extensions. If it works I will modify the other men's lying extension machine.
Jesus fucking wept. Fuck right off with your ridiculous blue drivel. You should modify your fucking brain cell instead you stupid twat.
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note to flinstones: Get on some gh or fuck around with mickey mouse doses of AAS (like leafy) and be the same size 5 years from now (like leafy)
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note to flinstones: Get on some gh or fuck around with mickey mouse doses of AAS (like leafy) and be the same size 5 years from now (like leafy)
Leafy made huge progress over the years.
Have you seen his pics from the North Americas..............lo oked awesome.
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Leafy made huge progress over the years.
Have you seen his pics from the North Americas..............lo oked awesome.
ya true... I forgot he hasn't been doing this that long.
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I call bullshit on guys who give advice like gh15. Luke Wood was following his dream and died for it. Maybe he made some mistakes but the reality is he died while still a young guy. That shouldn't happen to the guys here who want to be bodybuilders. If gh15's advice is sound and this is what you have to do to be a champion then bodybuilding is dead. This is lunacy. gh15 and others who advocate these banned substances should be banned and castigated. The authorities should find out who he is and lock him up. If I owned this site I would be ashamed of what it has become. Ron might like hanging around bodybuilding contests but he isn't a bodybuilder and probably never will be one.
gh15 takes absolutely no responsibility for his advice. If guys who follow that advice get sick or die who is to blame? I shake my head when I read this shit on this forum. It has gone too damn far.
Send Leafy to Sydney and I will make him a natural champion within 6 months. No drugs, no nothing. Just hard training and a balanced diet. I can guarantee it will work and he will be healthy afterwards. What has he got to lose? Come to Sydney because it is our summer now. Your arms will be two inches bigger within 4 months. No steroids, no growth hormone, no oil, no pills, no injections and no supplements. That is a big lie. You don't need drugs. It is all bullshit spewed by internet nobodies who aren't responsible for what they say.
Sounds like a bunch of
Flotsam to me. Lol i just wanted to say flotsam. Where the fuck does this old bag get his vocabulary from?
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Leafy made huge progress over the years.
Have you seen his pics from the North Americas..............lo oked awesome.
but you havent,,and the worst thing for you is that im actualy a top pro ...and for me to say this...doesnt sound promising,, you keep competing and always lthe same.... part of it is! because you never had a gh15....and you know it! insted of accepting this you fight it...now ok you can do whatever you want free world,, but as a vetern as you call yourself...you know WELL im the real deal ,, you know it you can tell it from the specifics ,, and you can tell it from the hands on descriptions,,
you are before competition ,, i assume you are doing strict balonie right now and thats why your brain is fucked up ,,still though as vetern you need to understand very well why fellas like bboy and disgusted are not here puting gh15 down ,, it is not because they are inlove with gh15.. it is becauase they know i say the truth because they WALKED THIS WAY ,,you know the song of aerosmith walk this way?
i walked it ,, if you dont like gh15....this is one thing,, but to LIE about gh15 is a whole other thing,,
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Any updates on your arm project?
there will never be updates,, he is not a bodybuilder,, he is old fella that cant grow he doesnt have igf in blood he doesnt have hgh realse HE IS DONE GROWING,, he can only get fatter and smaller....even to be leaner will take huge effort for him and it will be smaller leaner
he is done with bodybuild or lifting for anything aside health
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but you havent,,and the worst thing for you is that im actualy a top pro ...and for me to say this...doesnt sound promising,, you keep competing and always lthe same.... part of it is! because you never had a gh15....and you know it! insted of accepting this you fight it...now ok you can do whatever you want free world,, but as a vetern as you call yourself...you know WELL im the real deal ,, you know it you can tell it from the specifics ,, and you can tell it from the hands on descriptions,,
you are before competition ,, i assume you are doing strict balonie right now and thats why your brain is fucked up ,,still though as vetern you need to understand very well why fellas like bboy and disgusted are not here puting gh15 down ,, it is not because they are inlove with gh15.. it is becauase they know i say the truth because they WALKED THIS WAY ,,you know the song of aerosmith walk this way?
i walked it ,, if you dont like gh15....this is one thing,, but to LIE about gh15 is a whole other thing,,
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Why do you keep fucking with me....jealous?
When did I lie about you?
I don`t beliebve you are a pro because you can`t prove it.
I came up with Jeff King and Chris Aceto in the same gym for years so I know the real deal when I see it......aloso many other top names in the game at that time.
I missed a lot of training time and never took massive amounts of drugs..............just the way it is.
Prove to me that you are a pro and not just a regular guy who knows hormones and exhorts everyone to take huge amounts.
If genetics are good and a person responds well,takes huge amounts,they`ll grow...just like Ronnie,Dorian,Dillet,B-Boy,and tons of others.
In my mind you never won a trophy.........just because you say it doesn`t mean shit to me......ya` gotta` prove it.
I took tren eons ago......nothing new is coming from your crayon son.
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Why do you keep fucking with me....jealous?
When did I lie about you?
I don`t beliebve you are a pro because you can`t prove it.
I came up with Jeff King and Chris Aceto in the same gym for years so I know the real deal when I see it......aloso many other top names in the game at that time.
I missed a lot of training time and never took massive amounts of drugs..............just the way it is.
Prove to me that you are a pro and not just a regular guy who knows hormones and exhorts everyone to take huge amounts.
If genetics are good and a person responds well,takes huge amounts,they`ll grow...just like Ronnie,Dorian,Dillet,B-Boy,and tons of others.
In my mind you never won a trophy.........just because you say it doesn`t mean shit to me......ya` gotta` prove it.
I took tren eons ago......nothing new is coming from your crayon son.
again wes,, this is a problem many of your generation have ,, they didnt have gh15...they didnt realize its all in the igf release,, they didnt understand that a fella is = parelel develoment to its igf realese this is what make ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the diff between profesional and amatuer in low ranks,,yes muscle shape matter but not even remotely close to igf in blood,,igf is EVERYTHBING,,
trophy is not what you need to concentrate on ,, you are an older bodybuild,, im not yhoung either but i achieved and got to greatness in bodybuilding,, i then decided to help the kids of today to become bodybuilders insted of them ending up old and frastrated,, i should be commended for that and i am ,, i have 100s of thank you letters a week from female and males from yongsters and oldsters,, again the fact i dont posting them doesnt mean they are not there,,
if gh15 was balonie gh15 wouud be gone in 2006 about 6 months into its postings
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I`m old,but not frustrated one bit..............hopeful ly I`ll get even older.
You achieved greatness,but cannot fucking prove it to me so don`t mention it to me again please.
I could care less about trophies,got plenty of them collecting dust in my barn...........I do this to reach goals of getting into condition as I age......it`s my lifestyle.
You know your drugs,but so do many many others,the difference is they didn`t create a gimmick persona and tell people to take tons of shit.
Most top guys knew what it took anyway or they wouldn`t be at the top.............or did you show them the light?
After a certain amount of time most trainees realize that protein powder and creatine just don`t cut it.
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Bump for big mouth.
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I`m old,but not frustrated one bit..............hopeful ly I`ll get even older.
You achieved greatness,but cannot fucking prove it to me so don`t mention it to me again please.
I could care less about trophies,got plenty of them collecting dust in my barn...........I do this to reach goals of getting into condition as I age......it`s my lifestyle.
You know your drugs,but so do many many others,the difference is they didn`t create a gimmick persona and tell people to take tons of shit.
Most top guys knew what it took anyway or they wouldn`t be at the top.............or did you show them the light?
After a certain amount of time most trainees realize that protein powder and creatine just don`t cut it.
no ,, this is the diff,, let me teach you somethign about the scam cult you are part of,,
this is the diff....read closely
the diff is that they are convicts! they are fellons,, they lie cheat misuse and abuse everything inorder to get somewhere ,,they lie to my pupils and lied all the years,, how do you think i got such a huge following ? i am so strong to a point that i can KILL a supplement company by putting them in bad light,, do i do it? i try not to ....i also do not try to gain money from gh15....im bordering a saint! this is rare in bodybuild
AND THIS! is why you should take your old ass and read the bible like you already did ....and know that what i did is enormous ,, it is original ,, and it never to be repeated,,
i made an internet name! get into the bodybuilding hall of fame ...do you get it?
gh15 is not going anywhere ,, notice how srong it become,, all those pupils are not going anywhere,, they become top amatuers and profesionals ...they will be the ones who will decide who is the hall of fame...and gh15 has a big place there ...you know moses? this is pretty much my place in bodybuild,,
gh15 is the equivalent of moses
and this is also my greatness the ability to put it in simple words....to do it right and funny...to talk the truth ....to put the bad fella away and to get respect from whoever know whats up....as always rebels are everywhere for the cult is full of filt and alwya there wil be some filt...but !look around you i became THE center of attention of the bodybuild world ...the name gh15 is HIGHLY respected
always remember while you see micro...I SEE MACRO!
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i hope you do notice you are talkin gto one fella here...one individual that is not a kido...when i say i was on the olympus i mean exactly that!
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All you`ve accomplished lately is to lose the very small amount of credibility you had on this board.
You`re a funny guy though,I must admit very amusing.
All this time I thought Vince Basile invented bodybuilding but it turns out it was you who started it all.
The "Hall Of Shame" is where you are headed lately. ;D
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no ,, this is the diff,, let me teach you somethign about the scam cult you are part of,,
this is the diff....read closely
the diff is that they are convicts! they are fellons,, they lie cheat misuse and abuse everything inorder to get somewhere ,,they lie to my pupils and lied all the years,, how do you think i got such a huge following ? i am so strong to a point that i can KILL a supplement company by putting them in bad light,, do i do it? i try not to ....i also do not try to gain money from gh15....im bordering a saint! this is rare in bodybuild
AND THIS! is why you should take your old ass and read the bible like you already did ....and know that what i did is enormous ,, it is original ,, and it never to be repeated,,
i made an internet name! get into the bodybuilding hall of fame ...do you get it?
gh15 is not going anywhere ,, notice how srong it become,, all those pupils are not going anywhere,, they become top amatuers and profesionals ...they will be the ones who will decide who is the hall of fame...and gh15 has a big place there ...you know moses? this is pretty much my place in bodybuild,,
gh15 is the equivalent of moses
and this is also my greatness the ability to put it in simple words....to do it right and funny...to talk the truth ....to put the bad fella away and to get respect from whoever know whats up....as always rebels are everywhere for the cult is full of filt and alwya there wil be some filt...but !look around you i became THE center of attention of the bodybuild world ...the name gh15 is HIGHLY respected
always remember while you see micro...I SEE MACRO!
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yeah but when u were in it all the way and around your peers,training,competing and such did u have disdain for them for being liars,convicts,i mean this was yrs ago how did you grow such hate for a sport that supposedly buttered your bread,,,
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i hope you do notice you are talkin gto one fella here...one individual that is not a kido...when i say i was on the olympus i mean exactly that!
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Please provide proof.
I thought so!
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yeah but when u were in it all the way and around your peers,training,competing and such did u have disdain for them for being liars,convicts,i mean this was yrs ago how did you grow such hate for a sport that supposedly buttered your bread,,,
i love bodybuilding,, i grew hate for the cult,, some of it...not all thats why i had to bring new blood in and i did it,, as you can see old blood like wes...is still there ,, he know how huge what i did is ...but yet like a godo ole geezer he stick to his balonie,, he make surre he go to his steroid boardings and bump a source or ...beg him in email to send him this and that..or kiss my elfs ass on a boarding...those are the old fellas mentality ,,
reality of the matter is....the cult ws very filty ,, very very filty LOTS ND LOTS OF DRUG ADDICTS AND SERIOUS DRUG ADDICTS,,
i decided to change it and i did,,
i was one of those too in the past ,, i was,, i want a narcotic addict but i was a liar ,, i sold balonie to wanna be bodybuilders,, im ashamed of it,, and i swore that when im dead the bodybuild cult will look diff,, i think i did amazing job in 6-7 years as of now im on every aspect of internet,, i dont even do those things i dont know how to do it i have elfs and good fellas who do this and they shoudl be comended for it,, the cult has been changing for the better,,
most of next generation profesionals are gh15 approved with my stamp on them,, you always start from the buttom up ...you build things from the buttom up and this is what i did with gh15
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Please provide proof.
I thought so!
you dont need to be provided anything,, KNOW YOUR PLACE,, your place is not at knowing who i am ,, if i wanted you to you would,, i told you the way i rule is with iron fist,, i have compassion but im very good at doing what i say and saying what i do,,from reading the bible 10 min ,, ony 10 min you would know i was DEEP IN ,, any serious bodybuuilder would know it ...and so do you ...but you chose to play balonie and again what ewlse can you do with your brain half dead and body in catabolic state eating its own flesh ...so you sit on thunderdome and as said before GO WITH THE FLOW...those are the go with the flow fellas...they go where ever the win blows,,they got NO SPINE
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i love bodybuilding,, i grew hate for the cult,, some of it...not all thats why i had to bring new blood in and i did it,, as you can see old blood like wes...is still there ,, he know how huge what i did is ...but yet like a godo ole geezer he stick to his balonie,, he make surre he go to his steroid boardings and bump a source or ...beg him in email to send him this and that..or kiss my elfs ass on a boarding...those are the old fellas mentality ,,
reality of the matter is....the cult ws very filty ,, very very filty LOTS ND LOTS OF DRUG ADDICTS AND SERIOUS DRUG ADDICTS,,
i decided to change it and i did,,
i was one of those too in the past ,, i was,, i want a narcotic addict but i was a liar ,, i sold balonie to wanna be bodybuilders,, im ashamed of it,, and i swore that when im dead the bodybuild cult will look diff,, i think i did amazing job in 6-7 years as of now im on every aspect of internet,, i dont even do those things i dont know how to do it i have elfs and good fellas who do this and they shoudl be comended for it,, the cult has been changing for the better,,
most of next generation profesionals are gh15 approved with my stamp on them,, you always start from the buttom up ...you build things from the buttom up and this is what i did with gh15
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you dont need to be provided anything,, KNOW YOUR PLACE,, your place is not at knowing who i am ,, if i wanted you to you would,, i told you the way i rule is with iron fist,, i have compassion but im very good at doing what i say and saying what i do,,from reading the bible 10 min ,, ony 10 min you would know i was DEEP IN ,, any serious bodybuuilder would know it ...and so do you ...but you chose to play balonie and again what ewlse can you do with your brain half dead and body in catabolic state eating its own flesh ...so you sit on thunderdome and as said before GO WITH THE FLOW...those are the go with the flow fellas...they go where ever the win blows,,they got NO SPINE
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I got more balls than you ..........I use my real name. :)
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it my real name n it's me n im truly goin for national
i will make this clear : natural bodybuilding it's fucking boring , be on stage at a girl weight lol
you wont see a middleweight on a flex cover, no one give a shit who' th lightheavy universe n no one know who he is either
it's not true when you look like frank sepe you slay pussy, i did have in past th 6 abs surfboard model body n i intimidate girls, of course they look at you but nothing happen , they think they're not in shape enough for you insecure and sleep alone
at 250 pounds , full hgh , in club th girl will jump on you of course it's 2% of th girls , but you can fuck, and muscle mass doesnt mean masculinity but it they're mind it is ,,, they want to be ground n pounds violentl,,y i always encounter amazing sex partners be a big guy
and train naturally lol ,,, fucking amazingly lame
so leafy bug ,, stack up th hgh ,, welcome to modern bodybuilding ,,, where being freak it's fun
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you wont see a middleweight on a flex cover, no one give a shit who' th lightheavy universe n no one know who he is either
see this sentence friends?
this is maybe the most important sentence said in the thunderdome in all its existance,, this is a what a real bodybuild will tell you ,, this is how legit bodybuild think ,, and this is legit bodybuild tell you truth to your face,,
middle weight ! natural! yes you can make it ...NO YOU WILL NOT BE ON ANY COVER..
this! is the truth loud and clear
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fuck the natty scum....die for mass
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You would not put a single millimeter on Leafy's arms after having him clean out. You couldn't even stop the inevitable loss of diameter as in loss of actual muscle tissue. Why do you talk about drug users when you admit you haven't a clue about drugs?
The only way his arms would "grow" is if you hit his arms with a ruler for a few hours every day and had him overtrain so they swelled up with fluid due to inflammation. OR if you fattened him up, but then it would be just that, fat.
You could put Leafy on all possible performance enhancing drugs AS well as your training program and those 2 inches would not happen in that time span. Not even close.
This #### has to be the biggest retard on this site, Howard included.
You know bugger all. Just a guy who knocks others who have original ideas. Milos wouldn't listen to me. Luke Wood was invited to come to my gym for help with his triceps. He never showed up. I guess most take the easy way and believe it is all drugs. I know what I am talking about. 2 inches on Dan in 4 months guaranteed.
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you wantn see a liar...now this! ^^ is a liar
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gh15 claims he never lies. Well, I don't lie, distort or exaggerate anything I say about bodybuilders, bodybuilding, gyms, gym equipment, or the Irongame. It is called integrity. I also post under my own name. That takes a lot of guts, especially on forums like this. gh15 is an anonymous nobody like the rest of the flotsam. Put him on a barge adrift on the ocean....he is done here.
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gh15 claims he never lies. Well, I don't lie, distort or exaggerate anything I say about bodybuilders, bodybuilding, gyms, gym equipment, or the Irongame. It is called integrity. I also post under my own name. That takes a lot of guts, especially on forums like this. gh15 is an anonymous nobody like the rest of the flotsam. Put him on a barge adrift on the ocean....he is done here.
again ,, you have no igf in blood,, one look at you show 2 things,, a fella that is BOTH SMALL AND FAT! you have catabolizm hitting and lack of igf...its combination of age and just no practical knowlegd of horomones needed to maintain a physiqe,,
what you achieved in past which ws nothing was by hormones usage...what you achieve now is nothing due to HORMONES LACKING,, you just cant grow..if you can show it here
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again ,, you have no igf in blood,, one look at you show 2 things,, a fella that is BOTH SMALL AND FAT! you have catabolizm hitting and lack of igf...its combination of age and just no practical knowlegd of horomones needed to maintain a physiqe,,
what you achieved in past which ws nothing was by hormones usage...what you achieve now is nothing due to HORMONES LACKING,, you just cant grow..if you can show it here
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I haven't had any blood tests to determine hormone levels. It is my belief that causing hypertrophy in a persistent fashion will stimulate what is needed for growth. That is exactly what is happening and it is a good feeling. My gains in the past were hardly from steroids. 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months didn't do much in the seventies on a few occasions. I got a bit stronger and my pecs grew the first time I tried them. On other occasions the effect was almost non-existent so I abandoned use of those drugs. Compare that with what is recommended today. Light years apart and you know it.
Why knock someone having a go at building himself up naturally?
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it my real name n it's me n im truly goin for national
i will make this clear : natural bodybuilding it's fucking boring , be on stage at a girl weight lol
you wont see a middleweight on a flex cover, no one give a shit who' th lightheavy universe n no one know who he is either
it's not true when you look like frank sepe you slay pussy, i did have in past th 6 abs surfboard model body n i intimidate girls, of course they look at you but nothing happen , they think they're not in shape enough for you insecure and sleep alone
at 250 pounds , full hgh , in club th girl will jump on you of course it's 2% of th girls , but you can fuck, and muscle mass doesnt mean masculinity but it they're mind it is ,,, they want to be ground n pounds violentl,,y i always encounter amazing sex partners be a big guy
and train naturally lol ,,, fucking amazingly lame
so leafy bug ,, stack up th hgh ,, welcome to modern bodybuilding ,,, where being freak it's fun
well he doesn't look too small tho...
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/sepe7.jpg)
I`m old,but not frustrated one bit..............hopeful ly I`ll get even older.
You achieved greatness,but cannot fucking prove it to me so don`t mention it to me again please.
I could care less about trophies,got plenty of them collecting dust in my barn...........I do this to reach goals of getting into condition as I age......it`s my lifestyle.
You know your drugs,but so do many many others,the difference is they didn`t create a gimmick persona and tell people to take tons of shit.
Most top guys knew what it took anyway or they wouldn`t be at the top.............or did you show them the light?
After a certain amount of time most trainees realize that protein powder and creatine just don`t cut it.
No they don't, because they want you to pay them and than you will hear the same gh15 advices and much more harsh ones.
do you think that
Hany Rambod
Chris Aceto
Oscar Ardon
Neil Hill
George Farah
Milos Sarcev
Victor Munoz
Shelby Starnes
Fakhri Mubarak
will give you training and diet advices that will make you win shows?
i can tell that they wont, few might provide you worthy tips, but they are all there to give you drug advices and you can make sure they will be way more harsh than gh15's, and if you don't believe me than why don't you pick a few of them and pay them to prove it to yourself ?
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I haven't had any blood tests to determine hormone levels. It is my belief that causing hypertrophy in a persistent fashion will stimulate what is needed for growth. That is exactly what is happening and it is a good feeling. My gains in the past were hardly from steroids. 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months didn't do much in the seventies on a few occasions. I got a bit stronger and my pecs grew the first time I tried them. On other occasions the effect was almost non-existent so I abandoned use of those drugs. Compare that with what is recommended today. Light years apart and you know it.
Why knock someone having a go at building himself up naturally?
Jesus i truly feel bad for you old man. Because i was raised to respect my elders i will not insult you like all these other goons but u truly should stop posting
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This is to gh15. I call bullshit that you are a pro bodybuilder and I will tell you why. They don't come online and put shit on other guys who compete. Why? Well, they all know that each of them has to make difficult decisions about what to do, what to take, how to pay bills and everything else associated with the cult. That is the sorry state of bodybuilding and it seems to be getting worse as the years go by.
Why bag guys like Phil Heath? Makes no sense. Why would the believers on Getbig worry about exactly what drug protocols he used? I fail to see how some are superior, ethically, to others. It is all cheating and it has been going on for decades. I certainly don't accept your value system as applied to bodybuilders, society, America or even women. Nope, you are cynical but in the end it is just one sour opinion.
A champion wouldn't discourage anyone from trying to improve himself. Sorry, but you have the ethics of the unwashed flotsam. You have to remain anonymous because either howls of laughter would occur or you would be finished in the Irongame.
I am on a mission to prove that even someone my age can build a good physique without resorting to all that shit in your 'bible'.
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I haven't had any blood tests to determine hormone levels. It is my belief that causing hypertrophy in a persistent fashion will stimulate what is needed for growth. That is exactly what is happening and it is a good feeling. My gains in the past were hardly from steroids. 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months didn't do much in the seventies on a few occasions. I got a bit stronger and my pecs grew the first time I tried them. On other occasions the effect was almost non-existent so I abandoned use of those drugs. Compare that with what is recommended today. Light years apart and you know it.
Why knock someone having a go at building himself up naturally?
vince basile,, you rememebr the show with basikl faulty? faulty towers,, i cant take you serious everytime you spit your balonie this is what come to my head...BASIL FAULTY lol
you got no igf in your blood,, your hgh realse is minimal at best if at all,, you cant grow with out igf ,,the reason bodybuild grow is IGF execc igf in blood,, this is the main reason for lean growth ,, the aas blow it up with water from the inside but the growth of fibers and actualy muscle dimention increase the more igf you have...you BASIL lol do not have igf,, end of case!
now i want you to watch this,, this is absolitly one of gh15 most fabortite actors and shows in history ,, i want my pupils to watch it too ,, especialy the new generation so they know what great is....
this is for you basil
watch both of them ,, gh15 has a lot of faulty in it when it come to humour
enjoy,,part 2 is what you want to watch if you are generation nothingness and dont have pacient for nothing,,
gh15 approved
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Vince,
I've only ever seen one or two pics of you in your heyday, mr canada days
Do you have anymore pics? To see what 2 dbols a day can do..
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well he doesn't look too small tho...
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/sepe7.jpg)
No they don't, because they want you to pay them and than you will hear the same gh15 advices and much more harsh ones.
do you think that
Hany Rambod
Chris Aceto
Oscar Ardon
Neil Hill
George Farah
Milos Sarcev
Victor Munoz
Shelby Starnes
Fakhri Mubarak
will give you training and diet advices that will make you win shows?
i can tell that they wont, few might provide you worthy tips, but they are all there to give you drug advices and you can make sure they will be way more harsh than gh15's, and if you don't believe me than why don't you pick a few of them and pay them to prove it to yourself ?
I know this,and I totally agree with you.
Why shouldn`t those guys make a buck if possible.
Not every huge national competitor has used any of these guys,or taken gh15s advice....see my point?
It`s all about upping the dosage....we`re not talking about kids begining training in their basement and posting on bb.com.
In other words,he didn`t do anything except bring this info here under the guise of a gimmick character.....also doesn`t mean he`s a pro as he claims but cannot prove.
As I said,his advice is good,his bullshit stories,not so good, and usually bordering on the ridiculous.
On a sidenote,some of his exhorbitant amounts recommended are still not going to make most guys pros or even top amatuers if everything else is not in order.......they`ll just be bigger versions of whatever they looked like prior to taking his advice.
So if the guy looked like shit,he`d just look like a bigger pile of shit with lots less money.
Speaking on money,how does anyone know that gh15 isn`t getting kickbacks from the sources he recommends?
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I know this,and I totally agree with you.
Why shouldn`t those guys make a buck if possible.
Not every huge national competitor has used any of these guys,or taken gh15s advice....see my point?
It`s all about upping the dosage....we`re not talking about kids begining training in their basement and posting on bb.com.
In other words,he didn`t do anything except bring this info here under the guise of a gimmick character.....also doesn`t mean he`s a pro as he claims but cannot prove.
As I said,his advice is good,his bullshit stories,not so good, and usually bordering on the ridiculous.
On a sidenote,some of his exhorbitant amounts recommended are still not going to make most guys pros or even top amatuers if everything else is not in order.......they`ll just be bigger versions of whatever they looked like prior to taking his advice.
So if the guy looked like shit,he`d just look like a bigger pile of shit with lots less money.
Speaking on money,how does anyone know that gh15 isn`t getting kickbacks from the sources he recommends?
i suggest you to keep to yourself insted of trying to tlel im being bribed,, this is straight again assumptions,, the way i approve a source is through my elfs using their products and there is never a bribe,, never ever,, my storys are real ,, when i say i did something that means it was done,, again ,, you are a member of steroid boardings this is how you get your hormones correct? didnt you see what i did on steroid boardings? didnt you see when i promise something the places get cleaned,, look into the past.....loook into the past if you have any clue you would know i do not just talk i walk the walk ,,
my advice is not good it is GOLD,, it is the only way to become profesional ,, and you can become profesional with half ass genetic ask lee apperson and dan hill,, it all a mater of products and timing and ofcourse dosing,, along with other things ,, there are many useless thing i eliminated from bodybuilding such as pct such as lots of anti estrogens and many other things,, i brought huge change and this is what frastraing to many filt convicts around the cult,, but rest assure NOTHING can stop gh15
gh15 approved
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I didn`t assume you got kickbacks,I just asked how would anybody know if you did or not.
Nobody knows but you........I could truly care less either way.
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You would not put a single millimeter on Leafy's arms after having him clean out. You couldn't even stop the inevitable loss of diameter as in loss of actual muscle tissue. Why do you talk about drug users when you admit you haven't a clue about drugs?
The only way his arms would "grow" is if you hit his arms with a ruler for a few hours every day and had him overtrain so they swelled up with fluid due to inflammation. OR if you fattened him up, but then it would be just that, fat.
You could put Leafy on all possible performance enhancing drugs AS well as your training program and those 2 inches would not happen in that time span. Not even close.
This #### has to be the biggest retard on this site, Howard included.
Hahahaha - what a mean way to destroy dreams of the elderly.
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How lean will he be though ? Anyone can put size on by eating alot more and training but how much is muscle vs fat and water.
To put an inch on an advanced trainer like leafy he will be looking at a 10 - 15 pound body weight increase, so a 20 - 30 pd increase in bodyweight for 2 inches of lean tissue in 4 months . Sorry Vince no way , he couldnt do that with steroids , they speed up recovery and put size on faster than a natty could ever dream of but even with the help of thee drugs he couldnt do that - lean mass here not fat, 2 inches of fat/muscle/water then yes but he will look like ass.
Spot on post right there!
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again wes,, this is a problem many of your generation have ,, they didnt have gh15...they didnt realize its all in the igf release,, they didnt understand that a fella is = parelel develoment to its igf realese this is what make ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the diff between profesional and amatuer in low ranks,,yes muscle shape matter but not even remotely close to igf in blood,,igf is EVERYTHBING,,
trophy is not what you need to concentrate on ,, you are an older bodybuild,, im not yhoung either but i achieved and got to greatness in bodybuilding,, i then decided to help the kids of today to become bodybuilders insted of them ending up old and frastrated,, i should be commended for that and i am ,, i have 100s of thank you letters a week from female and males from yongsters and oldsters,, again the fact i dont posting them doesnt mean they are not there,,
if gh15 was balonie gh15 wouud be gone in 2006 about 6 months into its postings
gh15 approved
Gh15 is the worst thing that happen to getbig.
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In an attempt to get back on track here ...... does MOLNER resemble LEAF or does he not?
Molnar has 'more time in grade', but LEAF will catch up and pass for his bigger twin brother.
I leave room for argument though.
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In an attempt to get back on track here ...... does MOLNER resemble LEAF or does he not?
Molnar has 'more time in grade', but LEAF will catch up and pass for his bigger twin brother.
I leave room for argument though.
Great shape on this fellow
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401696.0;attach=440989;image)
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Gh15 is the worst thing that happen to getbig.
You leave GetBig and no one will ever notice you've left. Your contributions, influence and impact on this board is pretty much zero. No one comes even remotely close to the influence and impact on this board and bodybuilding boards all over the world than gh15.
He is the best thing to happen to GetBig and all the internet bodybuilding boards. There were times when there long periods where he didn't post. People would start asking about him. Where is he? Why doesn't he answer PMs? You think a single person will ask about you if you stopped posting?
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You leave GetBig and no one will ever notice you've left. Your contributions, influence and impact on this board is pretty much zero. No one comes even remotely close to the influence and impact on this board and bodybuilding boards all over the world than gh15.
He is the best thing to happen to GetBig and all the internet bodybuilding boards. There were times when there long periods where he didn't post. People would start asking about him. Where is he? Why doesn't he answer PMs? You think a single person will ask about you if you stopped posting?
Agreed gh15 is nuts at times, but he is very entertaining. He has brought this site back to live. It is good to have some dispute and mystery. I do disagree with some of his post but, he does write some good shit at times.