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Title: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 08:39:14 AM
any comic book character goes.Lets get ready to rumble!
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Post by: jianjohn24 on October 05, 2008, 08:42:02 AM
Daredevil vs. Batman?
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Post by: Mars on October 05, 2008, 08:42:52 AM
sevastase vs alex23
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Post by: Kwon on October 05, 2008, 08:47:12 AM
Pick one

Mangog VS Dick Tracy

Abomination VS Ben Afflecks' Daredevil.

boonstack VS Quakeroats

SinCitySmallGuy VS Bluto

Swede! VS Zone Capone

Obama VS McCain


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Post by: Meso_z on October 05, 2008, 08:57:26 AM
FAIL?  :D
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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 09:09:01 AM
Daredevil vs. Batman?

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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 09:26:38 AM
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Post by: Fatpanda on October 05, 2008, 09:51:23 AM
hulk vs thor  ;D

no contest hulk wins  8)

hulk vs superman

no contest hulk wins.  8)

hulk vs everyone

no contest hulk wins  ;D
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Post by: Mars on October 05, 2008, 09:52:35 AM
my penis against lisa's lips.
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Post by: divcom on October 05, 2008, 09:56:06 AM
This is the only one that ever mattered.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2366271330_c42001657e.jpg)
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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 09:58:10 AM
This is the only one that ever mattered.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2366271330_c42001657e.jpg)

as fat panda has clearly stated hulk would kill tis Bum!
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Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on October 05, 2008, 10:00:12 AM
Bennet vs Matrix
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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 10:00:45 AM
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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 10:02:42 AM
Bennet vs Matrix

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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 10:08:04 AM
Batman vs a heterosexual?
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Post by: divcom on October 05, 2008, 10:10:11 AM
Magnetic Force-Fields: Magneto usually protects himself with a personal force field that he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His force field has withstood the effects of multiple nuclear weapons, volcanic eruptions, the depths of space and attacks from multiple Avengers or X-Men, including Phoenix, Thor, and even Galactus.

Use to love this stuff as a kid.  Again...it's Lord Magnus.  The rest can go and play.

(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/watermark.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2007/06/179255-magneto_400.thumbnail.jpg)
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Post by: Fatpanda on October 05, 2008, 10:10:40 AM
thor vs sentry ?

superman vs sentry

superman vs hyperion

superman vs silver surfer

thor vs silver surfer

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Post by: ChinoXL on October 05, 2008, 10:11:10 AM
This is the only one that ever mattered.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2366271330_c42001657e.jpg)

Truth.  Magneto owned us all.  Man could have thrown the entire earth's orbit off if he so desired.
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Post by: Fatpanda on October 05, 2008, 10:11:50 AM
Truth.  Magneto owned us all.  

except hulk  8)
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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 10:15:46 AM
thor vs sentry ?

superman vs sentry

superman vs hyperion

superman vs silver surfer

thor vs silver surfer


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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 10:17:07 AM
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Post by: onlyme on October 05, 2008, 10:39:58 AM
 ;)
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Post by: big L dawg on October 05, 2008, 09:19:59 PM
wolverine vs hulk

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Post by: SquatAss on October 05, 2008, 09:48:35 PM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc254/redstarwild/BeyonderProtect3.jpg)

End of thread
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Post by: FlexGuns on October 05, 2008, 09:57:54 PM
Jean Gray is the toughest of them all. The Phoenix would destroy the Hulk.
(http://search.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&s_req=c67fdb247f0b7883&s_cq=jean+grey&s_cid=303461421382580757687298803766369156505&s_cim=1223269000442&s_cu=http%3A%2F%2Fi83.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj284%2FJason-Kakita%2FJeanGreyDarkPhoenixDeaconblack.jpg&s_cd=ImgDet&s_cm=image_details.M.xml)
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Post by: HTexan on October 06, 2008, 12:08:21 AM
wonder women ftw
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 06, 2008, 12:37:40 AM
hulk vs everyone

no contest hulk wins  ;D

Wrong in the Marvel Universe there is only One-Above-All

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/One-Above-All.jpg)
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Post by: Ruffneck on October 06, 2008, 03:24:20 AM


Worlds finest baby!!
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 06, 2008, 07:10:47 AM
No one could touch Korvac in terms of sheer omnipotent power.

Colossus vs Thing 

Colossus vs Namor

Black Panther vs Moon Knight (since neither are really "super" anything.  Just peak physical perfection)

Punisher vs Jonah Hex (or whoever that ugly dude with the skin attached to both lips were)

Sentry vs Hyperion

Wonderman vs Hercules

Vision vs Thing

Hyperion vs Juggernaut

Sentry vs Juggernaut

Carrion vs Juggernaut (now that would be interesting.. irresistable force (Carrion and his matter repealing power) vs the immovable object (Juggy when he starts to march and decides not to be stopped)

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Post by: wes mantooth on October 06, 2008, 08:07:42 AM
id like to wrestle supergirl....
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 06, 2008, 08:32:05 AM
No one could touch Korvac in terms of sheer omnipotent power.


this was only true in What If? #32 (vol. 1, Apr. 1982) when he achieves total omnipotence.  Although his universe does get cordoned off from the multiverse by the Living Tribunal.  This is probably my favorite comic ever.


Thanos was probably more powerful in The End. 
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Post by: Kwon on October 06, 2008, 10:25:38 AM
Neither Hulk, Thor nor Thanos could match Tyrant (on the left)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb82/Edpachi/tyrantgalactus4.jpg)
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Post by: V Man on October 06, 2008, 10:36:19 AM
Homer Simpson vs Peter Griffin

Now there's a battle!
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Post by: Option D on October 06, 2008, 11:04:28 AM
Blade vs V (for vendetta)
Hulk vs Juggernaut
Silver Surfer vs Aqua Man
Thor vs He-Man
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Post by: big L dawg on October 06, 2008, 11:11:18 AM
Homer Simpson vs Peter Griffin

Now there's a battle!

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Post by: big L dawg on October 06, 2008, 11:15:44 AM
Blade vs V (for vendetta)
Hulk vs Juggernaut
Silver Surfer vs Aqua Man
Thor vs He-Man


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Post by: ChinoXL on October 06, 2008, 08:16:40 PM
thanos WITH the infinity gauntlet was fucken ruthless
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Post by: big L dawg on October 06, 2008, 08:25:16 PM
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Post by: SquatAss on October 06, 2008, 10:07:57 PM
thanos WITH the infinity gauntlet was fucken ruthless

Just a wink from the beyonder would be more than enough.
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 06, 2008, 11:26:23 PM
Just a wink from the beyonder would be more than enough.

wrong, thanos destroyed and rebooted the whole marvel universe in the end. 
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Post by: big L dawg on October 07, 2008, 10:38:24 AM


the beyonder
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Post by: big L dawg on October 07, 2008, 10:44:18 AM
thanos

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Post by: big L dawg on October 07, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
WWH SRONGER THAN ALL!

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Post by: PTB on October 07, 2008, 11:01:45 AM
Hulk vs. Doomsday.

Even if somehow Hulk beat him the first time, would he beat him the 2nd? As Doomsday learns from his encounters and comes back stronger so as not to be defeated the same way?

And didn't Red Hulk beat Green Hulk?
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Post by: big L dawg on October 07, 2008, 11:13:40 AM
Hulk vs. Doomsday.

Even if somehow Hulk beat him the first time, would he beat him the 2nd? As Doomsday learns from his encounters and comes back stronger so as not to be defeated the same way?

And didn't Red Hulk beat Green Hulk?
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Post by: Condor on October 07, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
wrong, thanos destroyed and rebooted the whole marvel universe in the end. 

Pre-retcon beyonder was the most powerful and outlandish character ever written.
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Post by: sculpture on October 07, 2008, 12:38:25 PM
criminally underated character
[img]
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Post by: SquatAss on October 07, 2008, 01:14:31 PM
Pre-retcon beyonder was the most powerful and outlandish character ever written.

Indeed

These infidels do not know of whom they speak.
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 07, 2008, 01:48:10 PM
Pre-retcon beyonder was the most powerful and outlandish character ever written.

And as things currently stand he it is either dead or trapped in his pocket dimmension, so suck it.
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Post by: Condor on October 07, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
And as things currently stand he it is either dead or trapped in his pocket dimmension, so suck it.

Well, is this about the most CURRENTLY powerful or most powerful ALL-TIME?
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 07, 2008, 04:59:03 PM
Well, is this about the most CURRENTLY powerful or most powerful ALL-TIME?

either way thanos wins.  Beyonder was never close to Thanos' level of power in the End, which is still probably less than the One-Above-All, and possibly the living tribunal.
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Post by: technokc on October 07, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
these guys where pretty tough too.

(http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/9164/gummi0ku.jpg)
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Post by: big L dawg on October 07, 2008, 08:19:13 PM
memoirs of a mad titan.

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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 07, 2008, 10:38:51 PM
memoirs of a mad titan.



Brutal Omnipotence
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Post by: SquatAss on October 07, 2008, 10:43:37 PM
either way thanos wins.  Beyonder was never close to Thanos' level of power in the End, which is still probably less than the One-Above-All, and possibly the living tribunal.

You weren't reading comics back then were you? Beyonder was all. Literally. End of thread.
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 07, 2008, 10:55:41 PM
You weren't reading comics back then were you? Beyonder was all. Literally. End of thread.

well this is incorrect.  Thanos subsumed the entire universe in the End.  Beyonder at his best only controled his own pocket dimmension not the whole of the marvel universe. 
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Post by: SquatAss on October 07, 2008, 11:15:32 PM
well this is incorrect.  Thanos subsumed the entire universe in the End.  Beyonder at his best only controled his own pocket dimmension not the whole of the marvel universe. 

Yes he did. He could end all with a mere thought.
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 08, 2008, 12:15:47 AM
Yes he did. He could end all with a mere thought.

maybe within HIS universe but he did not have this power over the main Marvel Universe, or the multiverse as Thanos did.

Here is his wikipedia entry:

Powers and abilities

Although not native to this dimension, the Beyonder was one of the most powerful beings ever to exist in the Marvel Universe. In the original Secret Wars storyline, he was the be-all and end-all of his universe that took corporeal form to better understand the nature of human beings. After his creator, Jim Shooter, left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with Shooter's tenure at Marvel, re-tooled the Beyonder and altered his origin. He was no longer omnipotent as many initially believed, being an incomplete Cosmic Cube, with less raw power and the same limitations of a complete cube. Nonetheless, he possessed vast psionic abilities allowing him to manipulate matter and energy at a cosmic level beyond all but only the most powerful of cosmic entities. He once destroyed a galaxy on a whim to meet his needs during the first Secret Wars, although Molecule Man later recreated the stars in it, while transporting the city of Denver and the Super-Villains back to Earth. When the latter extracted the Beyonder from Kosmos, their battle took place in more than three dimensions, and threatened vast portions of reality. In Kosmos' 'Maker' incarnation, she was stated as capable of reversing The Crunch itself, essentially collapsing the entire universe. The Beyonder could endow himself with a corporeal form of practically limitless strength and endurance. He had the potential to reach near omniscience as well, but he died before his mind could reach maturity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyonder

If there are comics that show him to have greater powers you should cite them and amend the entry so that it is accurate. 
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Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 08, 2008, 12:25:07 AM
Pick one

Mangog VS Dick Tracy

Abomination VS Ben Afflecks' Daredevil.

boonstack VS Quakeroats

SinCitySmallGuy VS Bluto

Swede! VS Zone Capone

Obama VS McCain


Hahahaha!@!@@!! $10,000 on SinCity
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Post by: Parker on October 08, 2008, 04:12:13 AM
criminally underated character
[img]

Yep, until that upstart from gen X beat him, accidentally of course.
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 04:38:09 AM
well this is incorrect.  Thanos subsumed the entire universe in the End.  Beyonder at his best only controled his own pocket dimmension not the whole of the marvel universe. 

Fool, are you kidding me?  Have you never read Secret Wars?

This is BEYOND the Marvel Universe.  Hence the name "Beyonder."

He was beyond space and time, he was reality.  He was all there was outside the multiverse.  He killed death and re-created him.  He was referred to as the "living embodiment of the supreme power."  He was millions of times more powerful than all the rest of the multiverse combined.

Magneto: "your life and death, your present, your future are HIS to decide."

Dr. Strange: "he has power to make and un-make power, and things beyond power; such power was never meant to be incarnated into one being."

The Marvel Universe was but a speck of dust to him.
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Post by: Tombo on October 08, 2008, 05:08:43 AM
deadpool, cnts.
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Post by: Parker on October 08, 2008, 06:52:36 AM
deadpool, cnts.

Hell Yeah, dude made Hulk bleed, and one of the first in the Marvel Universe to break the 4th (wall?). I used to buy his comics just for his style of wit...he would fuck w/a mofo's mind....There needs to be a Deadpool Movie, either animation like the Avengers or Live Action.
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 06:58:12 AM
Hell Yeah, dude made Hulk bleed, and one of the first in the Marvel Universe to break the 4th (wall?). I used to buy his comics just for his style of wit...he would fuck w/a mofo's mind....There needs to be a Deadpool Movie, either animation like the Avengers or Live Action.

Ryan Reynolds is playing Deadpool in the new Wolverine movie.
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Post by: Parker on October 08, 2008, 08:16:59 AM
Ryan Reynolds is playing Deadpool in the new Wolverine movie.

Which means that, hopefully there will be a spinoff, of that and Hopefully Deadpool will get his own movie...Mofo is liike a dark version of Spiderman and a demented Punisher rolled up in one
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 08, 2008, 08:50:22 AM
Fool, are you kidding me?  Have you never read Secret Wars?

This is BEYOND the Marvel Universe.  Hence the name "Beyonder."

He was beyond space and time, he was reality.  He was all there was outside the multiverse.  He killed death and re-created him.  He was referred to as the "living embodiment of the supreme power."  He was millions of times more powerful than all the rest of the multiverse combined.

Magneto: "your life and death, your present, your future are HIS to decide."

Dr. Strange: "he has power to make and un-make power, and things beyond power; such power was never meant to be incarnated into one being."

The Marvel Universe was but a speck of dust to him.

No you don't understand the Marvel Universe, it includes all of the parallel universes and pocket dimensions (like the Beyonder's).  Death is a woman and she is just one of many cosmic entities.  Thanos slayed them all. 
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 09:07:06 AM
No you don't understand the Marvel Universe, it includes all of the parallel universes and pocket dimensions (like the Beyonder's).  Death is a woman and she is just one of many cosmic entities.  Thanos slayed them all. 

"The End" isn't Canon, so Thanos with the Heart of the Universe and all his feats are debatable.

Beyonder was the equal of TOAA, and that was holding back.

Beyonder had the power of the writers.  Nothing larger than that.
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Post by: RC Money on October 08, 2008, 10:54:08 AM
This rare character would own them all ;D ;D ;D.
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 10:56:21 AM
No you don't understand the Marvel Universe, it includes all of the parallel universes and pocket dimensions (like the Beyonder's).  Death is a woman and she is just one of many cosmic entities.  Thanos slayed them all. 

To end this argument, here you go:  FROM THE WRITERS

According to Jim Shooter

(Editor-in Chief of Marvel during Secret Wars I-II)
Creator/Writer of Beyonder/Secret Wars I-II)

....
Get's interviewed ... about the Beyonder by Marvel Age:


Marvel Age is an official Marvel title, created to strictly discuss Marvel stories,
and other intricacies concerning Marvel comics.


Jim Shooter on Beyonder:

Jim states:

1. Beyonder "is a Multi-verse."

2. Beyonder "was like God before there was Genesis."

3. Beyonder's discovery of "our Universe ...

.... was like when inventor Leeuwenhoek, looked through his micro-scope ...

.... and discovered little paramecia swimming in a drop of water ... "





........................ ........................ ........................ .......................

According to Jim:

The Marvel Universe was like Paramecium (a single cell organism)
swimming in a drop of water,
while Beyonder was an infinite Multiverse.
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Post by: Beefjake on October 08, 2008, 11:00:06 AM
No you don't understand the Marvel Universe, it includes all of the parallel universes and pocket dimensions (like the Beyonder's).  Death is a woman and she is just one of many cosmic entities.  Thanos slayed them all. 

Was it in those Infinity Gauntlet sequels where it was stated that: Beyonder was merely an incomplete cosmic cube

The opposite force of Thanos, Adam ...something was trapped in one of the stones. His personality divided in two. I guess The Enchantment was the name of that story.
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 08, 2008, 11:08:36 AM
"The End" isn't Canon, so Thanos with the Heart of the Universe and all his feats are debatable.

Beyonder was the equal of TOAA, and that was holding back.

Beyonder had the power of the writers.  Nothing larger than that.

why do you say this?
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 11:09:25 AM
Was it in those Infinity Gauntlet sequels where it was stated that: Beyonder was merely an incomplete cosmic cube

The opposite force of Thanos, Adam ...something was trapped in one of the stones. His personality divided in two. I guess The Enchantment was the name of that story.

He was retconned because he was too powerful.
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 11:10:53 AM
why do you say this?

Beyonder changed Hulk's destiny.  He found a future Dr. Doom.  He took the story where he wanted it.
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 08, 2008, 11:12:07 AM
To end this argument, here you go:  FROM THE WRITERS

According to Jim Shooter

(Editor-in Chief of Marvel during Secret Wars I-II)
Creator/Writer of Beyonder/Secret Wars I-II)

....
Get's interviewed ... about the Beyonder by Marvel Age:


Marvel Age is an official Marvel title, created to strictly discuss Marvel stories,
and other intricacies concerning Marvel comics.


Jim Shooter on Beyonder:

Jim states:

1. Beyonder "is a Multi-verse."

2. Beyonder "was like God before there was Genesis."

3. Beyonder's discovery of "our Universe ...

.... was like when inventor Leeuwenhoek, looked through his micro-scope ...

.... and discovered little paramecia swimming in a drop of water ... "





........................ ........................ ........................ .......................

According to Jim:

The Marvel Universe was like Paramecium (a single cell organism)
swimming in a drop of water,
while Beyonder was an infinite Multiverse.

Do you have a link to this interview?  I like to read about this stuff, thanks.

However, the writer's opinion is important, but what ultimately matters, by my reckoning at least, is what makes it into the books.
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Post by: shiftedShapes on October 08, 2008, 11:13:41 AM
Beyonder changed Hulk's destiny.  He found a future Dr. Doom.  He took the story where he wanted it.

There are a lot of characters in the marvel universe with the power to alter reality.  This does not make Beyonder the be all and end all or in any way the equal of TOAA.
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 11:20:59 AM
There are a lot of characters in the marvel universe with the power to alter reality.  This does not make Beyonder the be all and end all or in any way the equal of TOAA.

Well, the TOAA could be described as "God," or in this case, Stan Lee.

If Beyonder has control of the story, that makes him equal.

Beyonder also had the power to destroy the space/time continuum.  Had he done that, the Marvel Universe never would have existed. 

He always held back because he wanted to fit in.
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Post by: big L dawg on October 08, 2008, 11:43:57 AM






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Post by: Fatpanda on October 08, 2008, 12:38:19 PM
i like how fellow team hulk member Dawg is laying the smack downon this thread and keeping it real  8)

so from reading these posts we are all in agreement that hulk is the strongest one there is ?

(http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/06/hulk-smash.jpg)
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 08, 2008, 12:38:45 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but the Marvel characters that I liked the LEAST are :

Dr Strange - looks like a fag in chinese ribbon pajamas.
The Thing - he was just dull.  and ugly.  I never really liked any of the FF except the Human Torch
Captain America - boring. I hated all his "soldier" talk.
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Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 12:49:22 PM
i like how fellow team hulk member Dawg is laying the smack downon this thread and keeping it real  8)

so from reading these posts we are all in agreement that hulk is the strongest one there is ?

(http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/06/hulk-smash.jpg)

Strongest H2H?  Probably.

Most powerful?  Not even close.

I was wondering when you were going to join this thread Panda.
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Post by: Fatpanda on October 08, 2008, 01:17:19 PM
Strongest H2H?  Probably.

Most powerful?  Not even close.

I was wondering when you were going to join this thread Panda.

i have been a bit busy lately - but i'm back on task now  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 01:25:15 PM
i have been a bit busy lately - but i'm back on task now  8)

We were having a discussion as to the most powerful being ever created by Marvel was.

So far, it was between pre-retcon Beyonder (my choice) or Thanos with HOTU.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 08, 2008, 01:31:57 PM
We were having a discussion as to the most powerful being ever created by Marvel was.

So far, it was between pre-retcon Beyonder (my choice) or Thanos with HOTU.

Any thoughts?


i have to agree with beyonder, the secret war comics were and still are one of my all time favorite stories. 8)

however in a recent illuminati comic it was revealed beyonder was actually an inhuman mutant  ???

another favorite store of mine is a short 4 issue dc comic called: the weird

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DCWeird4.jpg)

has anyone read it?

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2008, 02:38:42 PM
i like how fellow team hulk member Dawg is laying the smack downon this thread and keeping it real  8)

so from reading these posts we are all in agreement that hulk is the strongest one there is ?

(http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/06/hulk-smash.jpg)

Hulk is probably one of the strongest in physical power and hand to hand/melee-range, but there are those with psychic powers and ranged powers and other powers that could be considered more powerful.

For example, a gas could incapacitate Hulkster as well as lifting Hulk, flying away with him and dropping him off in space somewhere.

Hulk would surely win against Molecule Man in a benchpress-contest, but Molecule Man, Xavier, Magneto et al have powers beyond "the bench".

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 08, 2008, 04:13:00 PM
Hulk is probably one of the strongest in physical power and hand to hand/melee-range, but there are those with psychic powers and ranged powers and other powers that could be considered more powerful.



Hulk would surely win against Molecule Man in a benchpress-contest, but Molecule Man, Xavier, Magneto et al have powers beyond "the bench".



 ::) have you learned nothing kwon - HULK IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS  >:( NO PUNY BALD MAN CAN STOP HULK, OR HIS X-MEN AT THE SAME TIME.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on October 08, 2008, 04:40:42 PM
::) have you learned nothing kwon - HULK IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS  >:( NO PUNY BALD MAN CAN STOP HULK, OR HIS X-MEN AT THE SAME TIME.


Actually, if I'm not mistaken, a puny man (wolverine) did fare well against Hulk a couple of times.  After all, Wolverine cannot be killed, and his healing factor is more powerful.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2008, 05:21:28 PM
::) have you learned nothing kwon - HULK IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS  >:( NO PUNY BALD MAN CAN STOP HULK, OR HIS X-MEN AT THE SAME TIME.


Now, when did Hulk manage to shield his brain?

Even a normal human being without psychic powers, using mere empathy like Betty Ross or Rick Jones, could defeat the Hulk, soothing him and turning him into Banner.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 08, 2008, 06:02:13 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but the Marvel characters that I liked the LEAST are :

Dr Strange - looks like a fag in chinese ribbon pajamas.
The Thing - he was just dull.  and ugly.  I never really liked any of the FF except the Human Torch
Captain America - boring. I hated all his "soldier" talk.


no hijack needed all are welcome.



Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 08, 2008, 06:09:51 PM
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, a puny man (wolverine) did fare well against Hulk a couple of times.  After all, Wolverine cannot be killed, and his healing factor is more powerful.

are you serious? Hulk turned him into a vegetable!





skip to 3:35 in this vid wolverine gets mauled
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 08, 2008, 06:11:29 PM
i like how fellow team hulk member Dawg is laying the smack downon this thread and keeping it real  8)

so from reading these posts we are all in agreement that hulk is the strongest one there is ?

(http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/06/hulk-smash.jpg)

hellyea TEAM HULK!I hope to have a pic up soon to show my allegiance panda.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Tombo on October 08, 2008, 06:19:15 PM
Which means that, hopefully there will be a spinoff, of that and Hopefully Deadpool will get his own movie...Mofo is liike a dark version of Spiderman and a demented Punisher rolled up in one


yeah heh.. that one picture i posted is twice as interesting as some of the movies they've released in the cinemas.. although Batman and Ironman were ace, Deadpool is definately a character they need to look into more.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 08, 2008, 06:30:33 PM

yeah heh.. that one picture i posted is twice as interesting as some of the movies they've released in the cinemas.. although Batman and Ironman were ace, Deadpool is definately a character they need to look into more.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 08, 2008, 06:35:14 PM
are you serious? Hulk turned him into a vegetable!





skip to 3:35 in this vid wolverine gets mauled

tis being sai I still love wolverine.




hes one crazy cowboy.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Tombo on October 08, 2008, 07:20:31 PM
pretty much the most powerful superhero is the Hulk, the angrier he gets the more powerful and impregnable he becomes.. i think the Hulk has torn wolverine in 1/2 and been the last living thing on earth after a nuclear holocaust as well as killing a titan or something..
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: HTexan on October 08, 2008, 07:53:21 PM
wolverine and spider-man rock!!!
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 08, 2008, 08:08:51 PM
wolverine and spider-man rock!!!

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2008, 03:27:09 AM
are you serious? Hulk turned him into a vegetable!





skip to 3:35 in this vid wolverine gets mauled

You keep posting these vids, they are not canon and not part of the comic world.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2008, 03:54:32 AM
pretty much the most powerful superhero is the Hulk, the angrier he gets the more powerful and impregnable he becomes.. i think the Hulk has torn wolverine in 1/2 and been the last living thing on earth after a nuclear holocaust as well as killing a titan or something..

Hulk is nowhere near the most powerful superhero, do some research. 
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 09, 2008, 05:32:22 AM
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, a puny man (wolverine) did fare well against Hulk a couple of times.  After all, Wolverine cannot be killed, and his healing factor is more powerful.
yes he did here  ::) and you are mistaken, hulks healing factor is more powerful than wolverines as it too increases in power with hulks anger just like his strength  8)

(http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/ultWolvHulk/lrg01.jpg)

Now, when did Hulk manage to shield his brain?

Even a normal human being without psychic powers, using mere empathy like Betty Ross or Rick Jones, could defeat the Hulk, soothing him and turning him into Banner.

in wwh, hulk's rage was too powerful for xavier to control, forcing every single x-man/woman to foght the hulk to protect him, they all got bitch sapped ( including wolverine)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 09, 2008, 05:33:15 AM
hellyea TEAM HULK!I hope to have a pic up soon to show my allegiance panda.

TEAM HULK is the strongest one there is  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 09, 2008, 05:36:23 AM
pretty much the most powerful superhero is the Hulk, the angrier he gets the more powerful and impregnable he becomes.. i think the Hulk has torn wolverine in 1/2 and been the last living thing on earth after a nuclear holocaust as well as killing a titan or something..

this is true, in hulk 'the end' it was revealed hulk was the last remaining living human on the plant after a nuclear holocaust. as he got stronger again, with all the nuclear radiation  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Tombo on October 09, 2008, 08:13:45 AM
hehe yeah pretty much he's cool... him vs the juggernaught would be a cool match to see, kinda wish i got into the marvel comics earlier
but i suppose some of the psychic/psionic mutants/heroes could hurt him, but it is very hard :)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Kwon on October 09, 2008, 08:20:57 AM
Hulk may be one of the strongest, but the most interesting anti-hero is Deadpool. (rightclick show image to enlarge it)

(http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/182/deadpoolbo0.jpg)
(http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/1932new_storyimage6116829_full.jpg)
(http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/1932new_storyimage6116812_full.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 09, 2008, 09:49:11 AM
hehe yeah pretty much he's cool... him vs the juggernaught would be a cool match to see, kinda wish i got into the marvel comics earlier
but i suppose some of the psychic/psionic mutants/heroes could hurt him, but it is very hard :)

he has beaten the juggernaught too. many times.

and as i said, the hulk is extremely tough to get to via psychic means. as his anger grows, normal characters cannot control it. hence the reason he almost killed xavier - supposedly one of the stronger psychics.

also he was the only marvel character able to fight one on one and beat a purely psychic onslaught  8)

hulk is the strongest one there is.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 09, 2008, 11:14:48 AM
this condor guy is delusional..just look at the win loss record my friend Hulk has the advantage.Thor is a boy with a belt and a hammer...TEAM HULK!
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 09, 2008, 02:44:44 PM
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: divcom on October 09, 2008, 03:02:31 PM
Lord Magneto.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/24/45345831_43da26fe8c.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on October 10, 2008, 03:08:24 AM
this condor guy is delusional..just look at the win loss record my friend Hulk has the advantage.Thor is a boy with a belt and a hammer...TEAM HULK!

Whether you like it or not, Thor's hammer is magical, and if Thor wanted Hulk dead, HE'D BE DEAD IN AN INSTANT.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 10, 2008, 03:47:56 AM
Whether you like it or not, Thor's hammer is magical, and if Thor wanted Hulk dead, HE'D BE DEAD IN AN INSTANT.

 ::)

and yet hulk continues to slap him all around 2 universes . ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on October 10, 2008, 04:25:48 AM
::)

and yet hulk continues to slap him all around 2 universes . ;D

Simply because Thor CHOOSES NOT TO KILL HIM.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 10, 2008, 04:44:04 AM
Simply because Thor CHOOSES NOT TO KILL HIM.

hahahahahahaha the delusion continues hahahahahaha
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 10, 2008, 06:46:05 AM
Simply because Thor CHOOSES NOT TO KILL HIM.

so thor likes being the biooootch!

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 10, 2008, 02:14:51 PM
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: divcom on October 10, 2008, 09:52:17 PM
Lord Magneto.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/24/45345831_43da26fe8c.jpg)

 :)

Feel the power from the cradle - the grave.  Let magnetism rule.

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_bDm4MPBIdisA6BmjzbkF/SIG=128c0rc1i/EXP=1223787064/**http%3A//media.teamxbox.com/dailyposts/magneto_mid.jpg)

 >:(
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 11, 2008, 05:35:14 PM
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on October 11, 2008, 06:41:33 PM
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 12, 2008, 05:03:10 AM


i wish i could take back the time i lost watchin that.  :'(
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 12, 2008, 12:37:13 PM
dr doom mofo's

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Royalty on October 12, 2008, 12:55:16 PM
(http://infinitecoolness.com/galleries/lastactionhero/tn_lastactionherowp06.jpg)

Benedict fron " The Last Action Hero" was the man!  Always had a different eye.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 12, 2008, 01:13:09 PM
(http://infinitecoolness.com/galleries/lastactionhero/tn_lastactionherowp06.jpg)

Benedict fron " The Last Action Hero" was the man!  Always had a different eye.

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on October 15, 2008, 11:30:59 AM
can't wait to see this one.

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on October 15, 2008, 11:55:22 AM
can't wait to see this one.



should be good  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 11, 2009, 09:39:51 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: CastIron on April 11, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
Hulk vs Superman :)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 11, 2009, 10:00:59 AM
;D ;D ;D

 8) just 1 of many  ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: FlexGuns on April 11, 2009, 10:04:41 AM
No one can beat Jean Grey the Phoenix. Watch as she destroys everything into dust.

  50 seconds in.

(http://www.gangus.net/X2%20update/dark_phoenix.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 11, 2009, 10:09:23 AM
hulks healing factor is stronger than wolverines, and gets better the angrier he gets.

if wolverine can get to her - hulk can too easily.  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Pecs on April 11, 2009, 11:07:14 AM
The hulk in the comic (not movie) can walk through ANYTHING!
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 14, 2009, 02:24:17 PM
Hulk vs Superman :)


superman speed-blitzes him into oblivion in 10 seconds.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 15, 2009, 02:25:54 AM
superman speed-blitzes him into oblivion in 10 seconds.

just like he did with a weaker than hulk doomsday  ::)

hahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Wiggs on April 15, 2009, 02:34:11 AM
Hulk Smashes all.  Nothing is stronger than Hulk.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 15, 2009, 02:52:52 AM
Hulk Smashes all.  Nothing is stronger than Hulk.
i've always liked you wiggs  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 15, 2009, 08:00:08 AM
just like he did with a weaker than hulk doomsday  ::)

hahahahahahahahaha

Is this post-crisis supes?  Hulk might have a shot, but this isn't a really good fight for him.

If it's pre-crisis, Superman pisses all over him 14,875 times consecutively.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 15, 2009, 08:03:24 AM
Is this post-crisis supes?  Hulk might have a shot, but this isn't a really good fight for him.

If it's pre-crisis, Superman pisses all over him 14,875 times consecutively.

he didn't piss on doomsday  ::)

hulk is stronger, heals quicker, moves quicker, hits harder, and all these things get stronger as the fight goes on.

hulk would win  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 15, 2009, 08:25:23 AM
he didn't piss on doomsday  ::)

hulk is stronger, heals quicker, moves quicker, hits harder, and all these things get stronger as the fight goes on.

hulk would win  8)

pre-crisis superman didn't fight doomsday (who didn't appear until the early 90's)....

All pre-crisis supes would have to do is go back in time and kill banner.

There are probably 100 other ways that Hulk would horribly lose that fight.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: rccs on April 15, 2009, 10:38:59 AM
No one can beat superman!!!!
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 15, 2009, 11:51:01 AM
8) just 1 of many  ;D

Works both ways, son.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 15, 2009, 06:42:43 PM
hulk beats all you F'in idiot's




and if your wondering what a hulk vs superman fight would look like skip to 2:45 in the video
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: CastIron on April 15, 2009, 08:13:02 PM
(http://api.ning.com/files/39IbuVVf-s5fbKLFWOFLgqilVLpfavW0ggD-YYcMgLHBJF5y3tSNNer8-h4xeJ5W1lHLdv*MMicIXDZ5BVYJ13RNG*yWhaPh/DrManhattan.jpg)

Dr. Manhattan would destroy the Hulk.  :)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 01:42:09 AM
Works both ways, son.

yes it does dad :D


from 1.00 onwards  ;)


also in this movie hulk literally bitch slaps thor and the whole of asgard  ;)

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 01:43:15 AM
(http://api.ning.com/files/39IbuVVf-s5fbKLFWOFLgqilVLpfavW0ggD-YYcMgLHBJF5y3tSNNer8-h4xeJ5W1lHLdv*MMicIXDZ5BVYJ13RNG*yWhaPh/DrManhattan.jpg)

Dr. Manhattan would destroy the Hulk.  :)

no
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 03:59:27 AM
hulk beats all you F'in idiot's




and if your wondering what a hulk vs superman fight would look like skip to 2:45 in the video

Like I said, that's not pre-crisis supes.

Please check your comic history if you don't know what this means.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 04:31:10 AM
Like I said, that's not pre-crisis supes.

Please check your comic history if you don't know what this means.

 ::)

pre crisis superman did not have infinite strength, infinite stamina, infinite healing ability.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 16, 2009, 05:15:39 AM
::)

pre crisis superman did not have infinite strength, infinite stamina, infinite healing ability.
exactly...even if superman got the better of hulk early in the fight the hulk would eventually get so mad he would overtake superman in every way.Hulk Wins period.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 07:40:07 AM
::)

pre crisis superman did not have infinite strength, infinite stamina, infinite healing ability.

WRONG.

Pre-crisis Superman was able to do whatever it took to defeat his opponent, meaning his levels WERE INFINITE.

It doesn't matter.  Like I said, the first and easiest way he would defeat the hulk is to go back in time and destroy Banner.  What would Hulk's defense be against that?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 07:40:57 AM
exactly...even if superman got the better of hulk early in the fight the hulk would eventually get so mad he would overtake superman in every way.Hulk Wins period.

You sir are a fool, read some more comics please.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 07:51:11 AM
WRONG.

Pre-crisis Superman was able to do whatever it took to defeat his opponent, meaning his levels WERE INFINITE.

It doesn't matter.  Like I said, the first and easiest way he would defeat the hulk is to go back in time and destroy Banner.  What would Hulk's defense be against that?

no, he has never had infinite powers - get a grip.

superman fanboy hahahaha  ::)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 07:53:57 AM
no, he has never had infinite powers - get a grip.

superman fanboy hahahaha  ::)

Answer the question please.

What would Hulk's defense be against time travel?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 08:14:49 AM
Answer the question please.

What would Hulk's defense be against time travel?
tell me how does he have the power to time travel ?

how does the yellow sun give him the power of time travel?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 08:39:14 AM
tell me how does he have the power to time travel ?

how does the yellow sun give him the power of time travel?

Pre-crisis Supes was able to fly trillions of miles in seconds, I've got more scans to prove it.  Here's one of him going back in time.  Also, one of your beloved Hulk wasting his time trying to punch Superman.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 08:40:19 AM
Game over.

You'd need to call on Red Hulk for this one, and he'd still lose.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 16, 2009, 08:52:21 AM
Game over.

You'd need to call on Red Hulk for this one, and he'd still lose.

hahah Another Persian owned. Great call Condor. Fat Panda and his fat suit owned. ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 08:56:02 AM
hahah Another Persian owned. Great call Condor. Fat Panda and his fat suit owned. ;D

So I'm assuming "Fat Panda" is not only his moniker but also his likeness?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 09:22:20 AM
Pre-crisis Supes was able to fly trillions of miles in seconds, I've got more scans to prove it.  Here's one of him going back in time.  Also, one of your beloved Hulk wasting his time trying to punch Superman.
i am aware he has went back in time, i simply wanted to know how it is a power - it isn't. His flight is a power, but that was long long ago he used it to travel in time.

the point i'm making is why then didn't he go back in time to stop doomsday?

why didn't thor use magic to make hulk disappear? why not lightening bolt him to death ?

because hulk is the STRONGEST ONE THERE IS !

thats why.

HULK > superman

its just a fact of life.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 09:23:54 AM
hahah Another Persian owned. Great call Condor. Fat Panda and his fat suit owned. ;D

who are you ?

oh thats right you're that gimmick thats trying to get noticed by attacking getbig greats  ::)

run along.....
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 16, 2009, 09:26:31 AM
i am aware he has went back in time, i simply wanted to know how it is a power - it isn't. His flight is a power, but that was long long ago he used it to travel in time.

the point i'm making is why then didn't he go back in time to stop doomsday?

why didn't thor use magic to make hulk disappear? why not lightening bolt him to death ?

because hulk is the STRONGEST ONE THERE IS !

thats why.

HULK > superman






its just a fact of life.

hahha YOu got OWNED by condor. Hulk couldnt do shit against Superman.

SUPERMAN>hulk         Wipe away your tears fat boy in a fat suit.  ;D



hahah fat Persian OWNED
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 09:30:54 AM
hahha YOu got OWNED by condor. Hulk couldnt do shit against Superman.

SUPERMAN>hulk         Wipe away your tears fat boy in a fat suit.  ;D



hahah fat Persian OWNED

hahaha yes you know nothing.

run along child.  ::)

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2009, 09:37:09 AM
The fact about Hulks strength increasing more the angrier he gets is a moot issue because the Sentry has a calming effect on the Hulk and he doesn't get angry.  The Sentry has more physical strength than the calm Hulk's baseline strength.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: CastIron on April 16, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
Dr. Manhattan would destroy the Hulk.  :)

no

He would do one of these numbers on him. Hulk wouldnt not have a chance, so that's BS.




fast forward to 0:35

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 16, 2009, 09:38:13 AM
hahaha yes you know nothing.

run along child.  ::)



Fat Panda melting down already. Fat Persian OWNED by Condor.

Superman>hulk    

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 09:42:48 AM
The fact about Hulks strength increasing more the angrier he gets is a moot issue because the Sentry has a calming effect on the Hulk and he doesn't get angry.  The Sentry has more physical strength than the calm Hulk's baseline strength.

can you explain then how hulk beat sentry (outputting full power, while holding nothing back) and every other marvel character during world war hulk ?

Fat Panda melting down already. Fat Persian OWNED by Condor.

Superman>hulk    



 ::) ok Big Kev


hahaha oh brother.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 09:44:14 AM
He would do one of these numbers on him. Hulk wouldnt not have a chance, so that's BS.




fast forward to 0:35



thats against an innanimate object  ;)

hulk would smash him too
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: CastIron on April 16, 2009, 09:47:59 AM
thats against an innanimate object  ;)

hulk would smash him too

It doesnt matter what you think!!!

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 10:04:14 AM
i am aware he has went back in time, i simply wanted to know how it is a power - it isn't. His flight is a power, but that was long long ago he used it to travel in time.

the point i'm making is why then didn't he go back in time to stop doomsday?

why didn't thor use magic to make hulk disappear? why not lightening bolt him to death ?

because hulk is the STRONGEST ONE THERE IS !

thats why.

HULK > superman

its just a fact of life.

Prove it with scans, or your opinion is worthless. 

Superman vs. Doomsday was what, in the early 90's?  That's post-crisis Supes, and that's a different Superman altogether.  Get your facts straight before you make an ass of yourself even more.

And Thor just doesn't kill people to win battles; I've got scans of Him fighting Hulk and they're trading blows back and forth, but Thor notices all the damage they're causing and is afraid for people's safety, so he tries to stop the fight.  Hulk goes on a rage and doesn't care, Thor never intends on killing people, so he would never "bolt him to death."

Lets stick with the subject please.  Pre-crisis Supes vs. any incarnation of Hulk.

Prove it with scans that Hulk would win.  I've got plenty that show the fight would be a joke.  Superman juggled planets for christ sake's.....where's scans of Hulk doing this?  What's the best he did, lift a mountain?

GIVE ME PROOF.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: a_joker10 on April 16, 2009, 10:19:56 AM
can you explain then how hulk beat sentry (outputting full power, while holding nothing back) and every other marvel character during world war hulk ?

The silver surfer is coming in May. To World War Hulk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_Hulk
Planet Skaar

A continuation of both Planet Hulk and World War Hulk is due to begin in May 2009. A special stand alone prologue and Skaar: Son of Hulk #11 will see the beginning of Planet Skaar an arc which is intended to bring Skaar directly into the middle of the Marvel Universe. Following the return of the Silver Savage (the Silver Surfer) in issue #7 events begin to spiral that forces Skaar to not only abandon Sakaar but to head towards Earth. Already revealed by series writer Greg Pak is that Mr Fantastic, Reed Richards, will not be amused with the arrival of another Hulk like being and that the meeting between father and son may not be very pleasant for the Hulk.

Nothing is better then the power cosmic.

Nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_surfer
He can utilize the Power Cosmic to augment his already superhuman strength to indeterminate levels, surpassing even the vast power of the mightiest creature on Earth, the Hulk, even at his original power levels.[65] The Surfer can heal living organisms, though he cannot raise the dead,[59]and he has proven capable of revitalizing and evolving organic life on a planet-wide scale.[66] He can alter the size of himself or of other matter, cast illusions,[67] and phase through solid matter.[59] Such is the maximum power of the Silver Surfer that even an Worldmind-guided Richard Rider (whose powers are now comprised of the entire Nova Force) was swiftly bested by him when the two clashed. The Surfer also appears capable of freeing Banner from the Hulk, as he considered doing so the first time he and the jade behemoth battled (though ultimately refuses, due to the Hulk's violence towards him), while the six Illuminati members all failed to do so.

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 10:23:40 AM
Prove it with scans, or your opinion is worthless. 

Superman vs. Doomsday was what, in the early 90's?  That's post-crisis Supes, and that's a different Superman altogether.  Get your facts straight before you make an ass of yourself even more.

And Thor just doesn't kill people to win battles; I've got scans of Him fighting Hulk and they're trading blows back and forth, but Thor notices all the damage they're causing and is afraid for people's safety, so he tries to stop the fight.  Hulk goes on a rage and doesn't care, Thor never intends on killing people, so he would never "bolt him to death."

Lets stick with the subject please.  Pre-crisis Supes vs. any incarnation of Hulk.

Prove it with scans that Hulk would win.  I've got plenty that show the fight would be a joke.  Superman juggled planets for christ sake's.....where's scans of Hulk doing this?  What's the best he did, lift a mountain?

GIVE ME PROOF.

 ::)

supes juggled planets ?
(http://rurounikz.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/world_war_hulk.jpg)

give me proof that he could beat hulk, he can't, face facts hulk is stronger than doomsday and doomsday killed superman.

the post crisis superman is the current superman,

the current hulk vs the current superman is no contest, just like doomsday did, the hulk would kill him.

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 10:25:11 AM
The silver surfer is coming in May. To World War Hulk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_Hulk
Planet Skaar

A continuation of both Planet Hulk and World War Hulk is due to begin in May 2009. A special stand alone prologue and Skaar: Son of Hulk #11 will see the beginning of Planet Skaar an arc which is intended to bring Skaar directly into the middle of the Marvel Universe. Following the return of the Silver Savage (the Silver Surfer) in issue #7 events begin to spiral that forces Skaar to not only abandon Sakaar but to head towards Earth. Already revealed by series writer Greg Pak is that Mr Fantastic, Reed Richards, will not be amused with the arrival of another Hulk like being and that the meeting between father and son may not be very pleasant for the Hulk.

Nothing is better then the power cosmic.

Nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_surfer
He can utilize the Power Cosmic to augment his already superhuman strength to indeterminate levels, surpassing even the vast power of the mightiest creature on Earth, the Hulk, even at his original power levels.[65] The Surfer can heal living organisms, though he cannot raise the dead,[59]and he has proven capable of revitalizing and evolving organic life on a planet-wide scale.[66] He can alter the size of himself or of other matter, cast illusions,[67] and phase through solid matter.[59] Such is the maximum power of the Silver Surfer that even an Worldmind-guided Richard Rider (whose powers are now comprised of the entire Nova Force) was swiftly bested by him when the two clashed. The Surfer also appears capable of freeing Banner from the Hulk, as he considered doing so the first time he and the jade behemoth battled (though ultimately refuses, due to the Hulk's violence towards him), while the six Illuminati members all failed to do so.



i don't understand your point - but if it is that hulk also beat silver surfer then yes i agree.

it was a weakened surfer, but it was also a weakened hulk  ;)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 10:59:59 AM
::)

supes juggled planets ?
(http://rurounikz.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/world_war_hulk.jpg)

give me proof that he could beat hulk, he can't, face facts hulk is stronger than doomsday and doomsday killed superman.

the post crisis superman is the current superman,

the current hulk vs the current superman is no contest, just like doomsday did, the hulk would kill him.



My god man, do you not understand the english language?

I never said anything about current Supes vs. Hulk.......Hulk would have a pretty decent shot at it, although his skills wouldn't match up so well (look up what Superman's speed blitz is and you'll understand).

I never once said we were talking about the current superman, which is post-crisis. 

The highest incarnation of Superman, pre-crisis, would take out the whole team of Hulk at one time, and I'm including Savage Hulk, Maestro, World War Hulk, Mr. Fixit, professor Hulk, and any other Hulk you can think of.  There is not one feat on panel that any of these Hulks has done that comes close to what pre-crisis superman has done.  Do the research.

I have won the argument.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 16, 2009, 11:25:28 AM
My god man, do you not understand the english language?

I never said anything about current Supes vs. Hulk.......Hulk would have a pretty decent shot at it, although his skills wouldn't match up so well (look up what Superman's speed blitz is and you'll understand).

I never once said we were talking about the current superman, which is post-crisis. 

The highest incarnation of Superman, pre-crisis, would take out the whole team of Hulk at one time, and I'm including Savage Hulk, Maestro, World War Hulk, Mr. Fixit, professor Hulk, and any other Hulk you can think of.  There is not one feat on panel that any of these Hulks has done that comes close to what pre-crisis superman has done.  Do the research.

I have won the argument.

no you are clutching at straws, everyone in the comic book world accepts post crisis as THE superman. Yes you can hark back to a dream time in the 70's and earlier when superman had stronger powers if you like, but facts are facts.

todays hulk > todays superman.

todays hulk is stronger

todays hulk is quicker

todays hulk has healing factor

todays hulk has infinite amounts of these powers.

todays superman is weaker

todays superman is slower

todays superman does not have a healing factor

todays superman was beaten and killed by a hulk wannabe in doomsday.

hulk would have little trouble in dispatching superman - make no mistake.

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 11:33:58 AM
no you are clutching at straws, everyone in the comic book world accepts post crisis as THE superman. Yes you can hark back to a dream time in the 70's and earlier when superman had stronger powers if you like, but facts are facts.

todays hulk > todays superman.

todays hulk is stronger

todays hulk is quicker

todays hulk has healing factor

todays hulk has infinite amounts of these powers.

todays superman is weaker

todays superman is slower

todays superman does not have a healing factor

todays superman was beaten and killed by a hulk wannabe in doomsday.

hulk would have little trouble in dispatching superman - make no mistake.



SHOW ME PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it that hard to do?

I'm not going to argue with somebody that can't back up what they're saying.

And once again, you need to get your facts straight.  Post-crisis Superman is any incarnation of Superman after the 1985 de-powering of him.  This isn't the 1970's, is it? ::)

Pre-crisis Supes had plenty of modern battles with plenty of modern superheroes.

Do you think you could maybe muster up some proof or some accurate information in your next post?  That would be a big step....
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: rccs on April 16, 2009, 12:52:34 PM
I've downloaded the cartoons Hullk vs Wolverine and Hulk vs Thor and surprisingly, Wolverine was more of a challenge to Hulk than Thor  ;D

Any cartoon of superman beating the shit out of Hulk?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 16, 2009, 01:37:26 PM


hulk consistently fights and beats entire gangs of superhero's.superman don't stand a chance.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 16, 2009, 01:40:34 PM
::)

supes juggled planets ?
(http://rurounikz.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/world_war_hulk.jpg)

give me proof that he could beat hulk, he can't, face facts hulk is stronger than doomsday and doomsday killed superman.

the post crisis superman is the current superman,

the current hulk vs the current superman is no contest, just like doomsday did, the hulk would kill him.



superman has beaten hulk 3 times....

panda what are u arguing about
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Parker on April 16, 2009, 01:42:56 PM
Spiderman vs. Deadpool

He-Man vs. Collossus vs. Gladiator

Ka-Zar vs. Conan
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: a_joker10 on April 16, 2009, 01:53:10 PM
i don't understand your point - but if it is that hulk also beat silver surfer then yes i agree.

it was a weakened surfer, but it was also a weakened hulk  ;)

Surfer didn't even have the full use of the power cosmic until after obedience disk was broken by Hulk.

Surfer also fought all of Warbound by himself including the Hulk.

The Surfer rules.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 16, 2009, 01:58:31 PM
please tell me fatpanda knows that supermanbeat the hulk 3 times
in the 70 or 80's marvel vs dc which i have

marvel dc 2 printed in the 90's He KNOCKED HULK OUT COLd!!

and also a one off hulk v superman superman beat hulk... so what is fatpanda arguing about
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 16, 2009, 02:10:25 PM
here is the superman vs hulk fight I couldnt find it in english but the pictures tell the story
this is the cover of the comic
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/marvel_vs_dc.jpg)


and here is the super man vs hulk fight

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/Marvel_vs_DC_03-29_m.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/Marvel_vs_DC_03-30_m.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/Marvel_vs_DC_03-31_m.jpg)

there knocked out cold end of discussion fatpanda
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2009, 02:25:46 PM
here is the superman vs hulk fight I couldnt find it in english but the pictures tell the story
this is the cover of the comic
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/marvel_vs_dc.jpg)


and here is the super man vs hulk fight

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/Marvel_vs_DC_03-29_m.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/Marvel_vs_DC_03-30_m.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/Marvel_vs_DC_03-31_m.jpg)

there knocked out cold end of discussion fatpanda

Good stuff.

I guess I had forgotten about that crossover series.

But obviously it seals the deal for my argument.

It appears that Hulk ISN'T the strongest one there is Panda, what say you now? ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 16, 2009, 02:28:30 PM
hahha what can he say
superman also beat hulk in two other comics
.. no contest....
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkyLurker on April 16, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
Battle Royale.....with cheese.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Wiggs on April 16, 2009, 04:49:47 PM
Battle Royale.....with cheese.

LOL.  Ace and Gary. ;D :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 16, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
can you explain then how hulk beat sentry

He didn't.

"The Sentry arrives and attacks the Hulk, leading to a prolonged battle that leaves them spent and in their normal human forms, the Hulk knocking down the Sentry with one final punch while still in their human forms."

It wasn't Hulk vs Sentry, it was Banner vs Ryan.

Sentry wasn't at full power.  He was also fighting himself to keep his power in check

The Sentry admits to his fear of his tremendous power mixed with his agoraphobia, stating,

"It's the agoraphobia. Some days it's...I can't...Sorry, Tony. You'll have to handle this one yourselves."
...
"Against an opponent this powerful...The amount of energy I'd have to expend...if I...lost control, for even a millisecond..."

—Sentry


Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 16, 2009, 05:31:47 PM
exactly he never beat sentry...
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: natural al on April 16, 2009, 05:35:03 PM
Daredevil vs. Batman?

batman....nobody beatsw the bat.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: natural al on April 16, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
Prove it with scans, or your opinion is worthless. 

Superman vs. Doomsday was what, in the early 90's?  That's post-crisis Supes, and that's a different Superman altogether.  Get your facts straight before you make an ass of yourself even more.

And Thor just doesn't kill people to win battles; I've got scans of Him fighting Hulk and they're trading blows back and forth, but Thor notices all the damage they're causing and is afraid for people's safety, so he tries to stop the fight.  Hulk goes on a rage and doesn't care, Thor never intends on killing people, so he would never "bolt him to death."

Lets stick with the subject please.  Pre-crisis Supes vs. any incarnation of Hulk.

Prove it with scans that Hulk would win.  I've got plenty that show the fight would be a joke.  Superman juggled planets for christ sake's.....where's scans of Hulk doing this?  What's the best he did, lift a mountain?

GIVE ME PROOF.

pre crisis superman was unbeatable by any character in any universe he was just way over the top in terms of power.....post crisis it got tuned down a bit but supes is still top of the rock, the sentry is just a cheap rip off of him.....no one can touch supes...it's tha easy.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 16, 2009, 11:19:20 PM
Bahh... Apocalypse > All

(http://www.interfold.com/dragaxman/apocalypse.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 02:41:58 AM
SHOW ME PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it that hard to do?

I'm not going to argue with somebody that can't back up what they're saying.

And once again, you need to get your facts straight.  Post-crisis Superman is any incarnation of Superman after the 1985 de-powering of him.  This isn't the 1970's, is it? ::)

Pre-crisis Supes had plenty of modern battles with plenty of modern superheroes.

Do you think you could maybe muster up some proof or some accurate information in your next post?  That would be a big step....

condor you are showing your nievity here.

we both know there is no proof directly comparing their powers as both are from different comic companies ( don't even mention those pathetic cross-overs where batman beat the hulk  ::) )

you have to look at their powers individually.

if you do, what quickly comes to light is hulk is all the things i said.

if marvel bought dc and everyone joined the same universe i would place superman in joint 2nd place for strength with the red hulk, and perhaps hyperion, with thor and sentry just behind them. hulk is obviously the strongest one the is as he has no limit.

why are you denying these facts?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 07:10:09 AM
condor you are showing your nievity here.

we both know there is no proof directly comparing their powers as both are from different comic companies ( don't even mention those pathetic cross-overs where batman beat the hulk  ::) )

you have to look at their powers individually.

if you do, what quickly comes to light is hulk is all the things i said.

if marvel bought dc and everyone joined the same universe i would place superman in joint 2nd place for strength with the red hulk, and perhaps hyperion, with thor and sentry just behind them. hulk is obviously the strongest one the is as he has no limit.

why are you denying these facts?

If you have a problem with the crossover series, then take it up with the writers.

As it stands, it's proof positive that Supes KO'd Hulk.

If you're going to start questioning the writers, then you'll have to throw the whole Marvel or DC Universe into question.

As stated by Natural Al, there has never been and never will be a character more powerful in either universe then Pre-Crisis Superman.  Look it up.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 07:30:19 AM
Surfer didn't even have the full use of the power cosmic until after obedience disk was broken by Hulk.

Surfer also fought all of Warbound by himself including the Hulk.

The Surfer rules.
so you agree both were in a weakened state, and hulk would have killed surfer if korg didn't dtep in and save him.

regarding the marvel vs dc crossovers  ::) please

they are a joke, batman beat the hulk in one of those  ::)
He didn't.

"The Sentry arrives and attacks the Hulk, leading to a prolonged battle that leaves them spent and in their normal human forms, the Hulk knocking down the Sentry with one final punch while still in their human forms."

It wasn't Hulk vs Sentry, it was Banner vs Ryan.

Sentry wasn't at full power.  He was also fighting himself to keep his power in check

The Sentry admits to his fear of his tremendous power mixed with his agoraphobia, stating,

"It's the agoraphobia. Some days it's...I can't...Sorry, Tony. You'll have to handle this one yourselves."
...
"Against an opponent this powerful...The amount of energy I'd have to expend...if I...lost control, for even a millisecond..."

—Sentry




sentry was at full power, this is made absolutly clear in the comics, did you even read the comic? sentry says hulk is the only one he could attack all out without holding back  ::)

he was going to destroy new york, hulk beat sentry, then with a final blow as banner knocked him out - he was the only one standing, then 30 secs later he turned back into the hulk and almost destroyed the planet earth itself.

epic denial.

pre crisis superman was unbeatable by any character in any universe he was just way over the top in terms of power.....post crisis it got tuned down a bit but supes is still top of the rock, the sentry is just a cheap rip off of him.....no one can touch supes...it's tha easy.
i did not say he wasn't - back pre-crisis.

regardless i'm saying current hulk beats current supes - no question, no doubt.

sentry is the main universe marvel copy of him, but hyperion is virtually a clone.

and yes hulk will beat him too  ;D

If you have a problem with the crossover series, then take it up with the writers.

As it stands, it's proof positive that Supes KO'd Hulk.

If you're going to start questioning the writers, then you'll have to throw the whole Marvel or DC Universe into question.

As stated by Natural Al, there has never been and never will be a character more powerful in either universe then Pre-Crisis Superman.  Look it up.
anyone who knows comics understands the crossover series are junk, they are simply a money making exercise, they are not to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2009, 07:38:20 AM
sentry was at full power, this is made absolutly clear in the comics, did you even read the comic?

Did you?  The knockout blow was delivered from Banner to Ryan.  Not Hulk to Sentry.

Stop pretending, the evidence is there.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 07:43:14 AM
Did you?  The knockout blow was delivered from Banner to Ryan.  Not Hulk to Sentry.

Stop pretending, the evidence is there.

keep clutching at those straws lurker.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 17, 2009, 08:11:00 AM
Did you?  The knockout blow was delivered from Banner to Ryan.  Not Hulk to Sentry.

Stop pretending, the evidence is there.

by that logic the whole superman goin back in time and killing banner is BS as well then.as it would be superman assassinating Bruce banner.not hulk vs superman in a fight.has hulk ever been killed in a comic?has superman been killed?there u have it folks.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 08:15:58 AM
by that logic the whole superman goin back in time and killing banner is BS as well then.as it would be superman assassinating Bruce banner.not hulk vs superman in a fight.has hulk ever been killed in a comic?has superman been killed?there u have it folks.

No, what he's saying is that when the final blow was delivered, it was a fight between humans, not superheroes.

Superman is able to use whatever power is in his arsenal, including going back in time.  Just because Hulk has no defense against this, it's not Supes' fault.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 08:26:25 AM
so you agree both were in a weakened state, and hulk would have killed surfer if korg didn't dtep in and save him.

regarding the marvel vs dc crossovers  ::) please

they are a joke, batman beat the hulk in one of those  ::)
sentry was at full power, this is made absolutly clear in the comics, did you even read the comic? sentry says hulk is the only one he could attack all out without holding back  ::)

he was going to destroy new york, hulk beat sentry, then with a final blow as banner knocked him out - he was the only one standing, then 30 secs later he turned back into the hulk and almost destroyed the planet earth itself.

epic denial.
 i did not say he wasn't - back pre-crisis.

regardless i'm saying current hulk beats current supes - no question, no doubt.

sentry is the main universe marvel copy of him, but hyperion is virtually a clone.

and yes hulk will beat him too  ;D
anyone who knows comics understands the crossover series are junk, they are simply a money making exercise, they are not to be taken seriously.

Like I have said time and time before, WHERE's YOUR F*CKING PROOF????????????????????????

Here we have offered you proof, which you have STILL FAILED TO DO, and you refute as nonsense.

Since we have no other frame of reference, it's all speculation on your part.

I say compare ON-PANEL FEATS of current Supes and Hulk, and we'll see who wins.  Show me one that Supes can't do.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: a_joker10 on April 17, 2009, 08:36:29 AM
so you agree both were in a weakened state, and hulk would have killed surfer if korg didn't dtep in and save him.

Surfer didn't have almost any of his power, when fighting the hulk. The hulk had most of his.
Surfer wasn't fighting back after his obedience disk was broken.
Also Surfer wouldn't have died since his power cosmic was coming back to him after the obedience disk was broken.

Those are all small things though.
Surfer at full power is the most powerful character in the Marvel Universe aside from Galactus
which was the case when he broke all of the obedience disks after he regained consciousness.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 08:45:03 AM
Like I have said time and time before, WHERE's YOUR F*CKING PROOF????????????????????????

Here we have offered you proof, which you have STILL FAILED TO DO, and you refute as nonsense.

Since we have no other frame of reference, it's all speculation on your part.

I say compare ON-PANEL FEATS of current Supes and Hulk, and we'll see who wins.  Show me one that Supes can't do.

in world war hulk - hulk got his neck snapped and died, then almost immediately healed - can superman do this?

in hulk the end - hulk was eaten alive by giant cockroaches then regenerated in a few mins - can superman do this ?

we both know he can't.

you keep demanding proof, when i have already told you numerous posts ago there is no proof of them fighting in a serious comic.

however there is plenty of proof that superman was killed by doomsday - a character that possesses none of the powers of the hulk.

you cannot argue about this so instead you have based all your arguments on 'SHOW ME PROOF' and 'PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN WAS GOD'.

as big dawg points out, superman was killed, hulk hasn't.

Surfer didn't have almost any of his power, when fighting the hulk. The hulk had most of his.
Surfer wasn't fighting back after his obedience disk was broken.
Also Surfer wouldn't have died since his power cosmic was coming back to him after the obedience disk was broken.

Those are all small things though.
Surfer at full power is the most powerful character in the Marvel Universe aside from Galactus
which was the case when he broke all of the obedience disks after he regained consciousness.


nonsense, hulk was severly weakened also as was surfer - the extent of which was not made clear. We can only go by what happened, and what happened was hulk almost killed him.

As i have told condor hulk cannot be beaten in any physical battle.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 17, 2009, 08:46:58 AM
Nerd herd.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 17, 2009, 08:53:46 AM
Nerd herd.

really...I think i started getting zits again reading this
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2009, 09:10:10 AM
keep clutching at those straws lurker.

Are you denying the actual print and evidence in the comic itself?  It's right there.  In the comic. 

Damn, how delusional are you?  This isn't hearsay, it is actual fact.  Printed and proven.

FuckingDUHHH!!
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2009, 09:12:30 AM
by that logic the whole superman goin back in time and killing banner is BS as well then.as it would be superman assassinating Bruce banner.not hulk vs superman in a fight.has hulk ever been killed in a comic?has superman been killed?there u have it folks.

Not the same thing.

Hulk and Sentry met and fought.  It was basically a draw because Sentry was fighting to keep control of his powers from overwhelming and destroying everything.

In the end, they had exhausted each other enough to the point that they reverted back to human forms and Banner knocked out Ryan as  a man, not a superhero. 

Sentry > Hulk.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 09:15:16 AM
Not the same thing.

Hulk and Sentry met and fought.  It was basically a draw because Sentry was fighting to keep control of his powers from overwhelming and destroying everything.

In the end, they had exhausted each other enough to the point that they reverted back to human forms and Banner knocked out Ryan as  a man, not a superhero. 

Sentry > Hulk.

hahahahaha no, sentry let loose with everything - it says so in the comic.

hulk still had a reserve as he only gets more powerful the angrier he gets.

hence the whole incredible rage that almost destroyed the planet at the end of the world war hulk run.

(http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/hulk/Hulk-vs-Sentry-14.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 09:24:36 AM
in world war hulk - hulk got his neck snapped and died, then almost immediately healed - can superman do this?

in hulk the end - hulk was eaten alive by giant cockroaches then regenerated in a few mins - can superman do this ?

we both know he can't.

you keep demanding proof, when i have already told you numerous posts ago there is no proof of them fighting in a serious comic.

however there is plenty of proof that superman was killed by doomsday - a character that possesses none of the powers of the hulk.

you cannot argue about this so instead you have based all your arguments on 'SHOW ME PROOF' and 'PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN WAS GOD'.

as big dawg points out, superman was killed, hulk hasn't.
 

nonsense, hulk was severly weakened also as was surfer - the extent of which was not made clear. We can only go by what happened, and what happened was hulk almost killed him.

As i have told condor hulk cannot be beaten in any physical battle.

I don't care if YOU think it's a serious comic or not, the higher-ups of both marvel and DC agreed on this crossover, AND THAT'S HOW THE FIGHT WENT DOWN.  End of story.  Superman wins.

IF you can't handle it, take it up with the writers.  And while you're at it, why don't you argue with them about everything else "you don't agree with," and maybe you can change the course of comic history altogether.

And since you brought up WWH, here's a shot of Superman Blue learning how to repair himself.  I don't think a neck snap is really going to make a difference here. ::)

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week211997action733046st.jpg

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 09:30:27 AM
I don't care if YOU think it's a serious comic or not, the higher-ups of both marvel and DC agreed on this crossover, AND THAT'S HOW THE FIGHT WENT DOWN.  End of story.  Superman wins.

IF you can't handle it, take it up with the writers.  And while you're at it, why don't you argue with them about everything else "you don't agree with," and maybe you can change the course of comic history altogether.

And since you brought up WWH, here's a shot of Superman Blue learning how to repair himself.  I don't think a neck snap is really going to make a difference here. ::)

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week211997action733046st.jpg



hahahahahaha first its pre crisis superman, now superman blue hahahahahaha

fail !

also a neck snap = death not a few cuts and bruises  ::)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 09:46:19 AM
hahahahahaha first its pre crisis superman, now superman blue hahahahahaha

fail !

also a neck snap = death not a few cuts and bruises  ::)

Well, you're using the most powerful incarnation of Hulk, so I should be able to use any version of Superman aside from pre-crisis.

And here's a shot where nothing can touch Superman, whether it be strength, psychic powers, man-made powers.  He's within his own force field.  How would Hulk get to that?

http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week261997supesmos69061co.jpg
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
Well, you're using the most powerful incarnation of Hulk, so I should be able to use any version of Superman aside from pre-crisis.

And here's a shot where nothing can touch Superman, whether it be strength, psychic powers, man-made powers.  He's within his own force field.  How would Hulk get to that?

http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=week261997supesmos69061co.jpg


 ::) you must not understand the hulk - wwh is the same old hulk that theres always been. just angrier  ;)

you on the other hand are clutching at straws with pre-crisis, blue superman, whats next ?

fact is, even with a forcefield hulk would smash through it if he chose to.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 17, 2009, 09:56:23 AM
::) you must not understand the hulk - wwh is the same old hulk that theres always been. just angrier  ;)

you on the other hand are clutching at straws with pre-crisis, blue superman, whats next ?

fact is, even with a forcefield hulk would smash through it if he chose to.
 epic hulk and panda enduced gimmick meltdown  :o

i wonder who's gimmick you are  ::)

hahahha Fat Panda is getting nervous. He says the same stuff over and over without backing anything up. Typical arab excuses. hahah  ;D

Reminds me when Sadaam said American forces were not moving into his country. FatPanda got punked. ;D

 
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 09:56:55 AM
::) you must not understand the hulk - wwh is the same old hulk that theres always been. just angrier  ;)

you on the other hand are clutching at straws with pre-crisis, blue superman, whats next ?

fact is, even with a forcefield hulk would smash through it if he chose to.
 epic hulk and panda enduced gimmick meltdown  :o

i wonder who's gimmick you are  ::)

Show me a shot of Hulk smashing through a forcefield of that caliber.

And Hulk is not on Sakaar, and this is not Planet Hulk.  That is not the current version.  IT is generally agreed that WWH is the strongest.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 10:15:20 AM
Show me a shot of Hulk smashing through a forcefield of that caliber.

And Hulk is not on Sakaar, and this is not Planet Hulk.  That is not the current version.  IT is generally agreed that WWH is the strongest.

afraid not, wwh is the same old hulk, no extra powers, no fancy equipment, just hulk and his anger.  ;)

although it is agreed this hulk is the strongest as he has never been that angry before - but its still the hulk, anytime someone makes him that angry thats the result.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 10:27:34 AM
afraid not, wwh is the same old hulk, no extra powers, no fancy equipment, just hulk and his anger.  ;)

although it is agreed this hulk is the strongest as he has never been that angry before - but its still the hulk, anytime someone makes him that angry thats the result.

Well, the other versions of Superman (prime, blue, red son) are still Superman, too.

Dude, Hulk was my favorite hero growing up, my second favorite currently of all time, what I can't stand is when fanboys job him up to be on Thanos' level or something, which you're trying to do here.  He has his strength, and that's all he's god-like in.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 10:30:25 AM
Well, the other versions of Superman (prime, blue, red son) are still Superman, too.

Dude, Hulk was my favorite hero growing up, my second favorite currently of all time, what I can't stand is when fanboys job him up to be on Thanos' level or something, which you're trying to do here.  He has his strength, and that's all he's god-like in.
no, it is nothing like those other versions of superman - they have different powers/abilities.

hulk is hulk - the strongest one there is !

his strength has no limit, his healing has no limit, his stamina has no limit - superman has limits.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 10:36:28 AM
no, it is nothing like those other versions of superman - they have different powers/abilities.

hulk is hulk - the strongest one there is !

his strength has no limit, his healing has no limit, his stamina has no limit - superman has limits.

Well, if Hulk was even a fraction as fast as Superman, you might have a point.  Superman could speedblitz the Hulk, and he wouldn't even see it coming.

Superman's base strength is MUCH higher, although I would consider it possible that the Hulk would become stronger than Supes as the fight goes on.

You are completely ignoring all of Superman's other powers.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 17, 2009, 12:31:31 PM
Well, if Hulk was even a fraction as fast as Superman, you might have a point.  Superman could speedblitz the Hulk, and he wouldn't even see it coming.

Superman's base strength is MUCH higher, although I would consider it possible that the Hulk would become stronger than Supes as the fight goes on.

You are completely ignoring all of Superman's other powers.

well the sentry can move at light speed if not faster, and hulk punched him dead on as he flew at him in wwh.

however superman could unleash a speed blitz, thats not to say it would hurt hulk though - as his speed didn't help him against a slower doomsday.

also hulk could just use the thunder clap.

head vision wouldn't do much after the first few secs as hulk would adapt.

the only real threat is flying, but again it didn't do him much good against a weaker and slower than hulk doomsday.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 12:40:33 PM
well the sentry can move at light speed if not faster, and hulk punched him dead on as he flew at him in wwh.

however superman could unleash a speed blitz, thats not to say it would hurt hulk though - as his speed didn't help him against a slower doomsday.

also hulk could just use the thunder clap.

head vision wouldn't do much after the first few secs as hulk would adapt.

the only real threat is flying, but again it didn't do him much good against a weaker and slower than hulk doomsday.

That fight vs. Sentry ended with two feeble human beings, christ robert even thanked banner in the end for stopping him.  What the hell does that fight prove?  It was a stalemate at best.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 17, 2009, 12:50:26 PM
Show me a shot of Hulk smashing through a forcefield of that caliber.

And Hulk is not on Sakaar, and this is not Planet Hulk.  That is not the current version.  IT is generally agreed that WWH is the strongest.

OK so...it's agreed WWH is the strongest now.and pre crisis superman use to be the strongest.Right?so superman's like the guy in the gym telling everyone how good he use to be.how much he use to bench.Basically a fuckin has been ;D ;D.While hulk on the other hand is only getting stronger with time and shows no signs of slowing down....so once again there you have it....THE HULK>superman.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 12:52:53 PM
OK so...it's agreed WWH is the strongest now.and pre crisis superman use to be the strongest.Right?so superman's like the guy in the gym telling everyone how good he use to be.how much he use to bench.Basically a fuckin has been ;D ;D.While hulk on the other hand is only getting stronger with time and shows no signs of slowing down....so once again there you have it....THE HULK>superman.

You need to learn how to read dipshit.

We weren't even talking about PC Supes, I was saying that it was generally agreed that WWH is the strongest incarnation of THE HULK.  Where does it say in that sentence that he is stronger than Pre-Crisis Superman>
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 17, 2009, 01:03:07 PM
You need to learn how to read dipshit.

We weren't even talking about PC Supes, I was saying that it was generally agreed that WWH is the strongest incarnation of THE HULK.  Where does it say in that sentence that he is stronger than Pre-Crisis Superman>

first off...you like name calling huh.however if that is your skinny little twink ass in you avatar I doubt you would be so cocky to my face....second The point I was making is that as time goes by Hulk just get's better and better,stronger and stronger.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 17, 2009, 01:17:35 PM
first off...you like name calling huh.however if that is your skinny little twink ass in you avatar I doubt you would be so cocky to my face....second The point I was making is that as time goes by Hulk just get's better and better,stronger and stronger.

No, you quoted me completely wrong....

And yes, go check out my pics in the member's pics section, I'd like to see how you stack up "big L dawg."

I'm not being cocky, I just don't like it when people tell me I said something when I didn't. 
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 17, 2009, 02:37:57 PM
hulk has limits.... thats why he has been beaten... there is a limit on how mad he can get... when achilles killed betty he got so mad he reverted to banner...
he also has strength limits...secrt wars...lifting the mountain
off the heroes the writed wrote it that thor wasnt under the mountain....
anyway superman is faster stronger and touger than hulk.. super man moved planets
also i can count on my hand the times ive seen superman cut.....
hlk is nowhere as tough..... no contest
no way no how i posted the comic supeman beat hulk down..
just as superman beat thor..
superman is the greatest hero .. end of
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: dkf360 on April 17, 2009, 04:54:37 PM
Superman > Hulk.
As much of a marvel universe fan that I am, we have to give it up this fact.

Also, in Secret Wars II #6, it shows the Beyonder dominating Living Tribunal, Eternity, Master Order/Lord Chaos, Death...etc.  Before the writers retracted this character, it was the single most powerful display of any character in the comic book realm.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 17, 2009, 06:26:17 PM
im a marvel fan too...
but superman is the greatest...
i dont even think hulk is the most powerul from marvel either... he haas been beaten by iron man
yes panda there is an old issue when tony used alled the juice in his suit to deliver one punch.. that knocked out hulk
namor has beat him under water
thor has beaten him multiple times...
hulk has beaten them too...
i jus think marvel are over writing hulk at the moment because his movie came out and was a smash.... planet hul and ww hulk was garbage in my opinion
the hulk vs dvd that came out was atrocious they had hulk destroy thor BADLY it wasnt a rivalry.. he beat thor like a bad husband abusing their wife total embelishment on the writers part the hulk v wolverine part was better...
i actually thought wovlverine won that fight... he had hulk down and was about to deliver the killing blow...
so hulk is powerful but not in supes league i actually think if the writers be true like stan lee stipulated thor is greater
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 17, 2009, 09:03:10 PM
hulk still had a reserve as he only gets more powerful the angrier he gets.

Which is negated by the Sentry's calming force that Hulk has no defense against and thus, can't get angry.

Boxed yourself in with bullshit and the fact remains the same.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 17, 2009, 09:23:09 PM
Which is negated by the Sentry's calming force that Hulk has no defense against and thus, can't get angry.

Boxed yourself in with bullshit and the fact remains the same.

I thought Hulk beat Sentry during WWH?

Maybe I'm wrong though... I'd have to go back and look.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 17, 2009, 09:41:38 PM
I thought Hulk beat Sentry during WWH?

Maybe I'm wrong though... I'd have to go back and look.

STFU
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 17, 2009, 10:25:57 PM
STFU


Just telling you what I believe happened.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 18, 2009, 01:27:54 AM
That fight vs. Sentry ended with two feeble human beings, christ robert even thanked banner in the end for stopping him.  What the hell does that fight prove?  It was a stalemate at best.

the hulk who was not at full rage beat a full power not holding back sentry, yes both reverted to human form.

however robert reynolds ( not ryan or chris  ::)  ) was left unconcious at the end with banner still standing.

banner then within a few mins got angry again turned into the hulk and almost destroyed the world - all the while sentry is lying unconcious.

tell me again why you think that fight proves nothing ?  ::)
hulk has limits.... thats why he has been beaten... there is a limit on how mad he can get... when achilles killed betty he got so mad he reverted to banner...
he also has strength limits...secrt wars...lifting the mountain
off the heroes the writed wrote it that thor wasnt under the mountain....
anyway superman is faster stronger and touger than hulk.. super man moved planets
also i can count on my hand the times ive seen superman cut.....
hlk is nowhere as tough..... no contest
no way no how i posted the comic supeman beat hulk down..
just as superman beat thor..
superman is the greatest hero .. end of

no hulk has no rage limit or strength limit - see wwh and the pic i included earlier for further proof.

superman also has kryptonite issues - hulk has no weakness.

as for the crossovers - a pathetic money making venture nothing more.
Superman > Hulk.
As much of a marvel universe fan that I am, we have to give it up this fact.

Also, in Secret Wars II #6, it shows the Beyonder dominating Living Tribunal, Eternity, Master Order/Lord Chaos, Death...etc.  Before the writers retracted this character, it was the single most powerful display of any character in the comic book realm.
perhaps he was.

Which is negated by the Sentry's calming force that Hulk has no defense against and thus, can't get angry.

Boxed yourself in with bullshit and the fact remains the same.
you clearly have not even read the comic - try reading it first before trying to argue with bullshit

it had no effect on the hulk as he was too angry. or perhaps it did have an effect, but the hulk still beat him - imigine the ass wooping the sentry would have got if hulk was not calmed hahahah.

im a marvel fan too...
but superman is the greatest...
i dont even think hulk is the most powerul from marvel either... he haas been beaten by iron man
yes panda there is an old issue when tony used alled the juice in his suit to deliver one punch.. that knocked out hulk
namor has beat him under water
thor has beaten him multiple times...
hulk has beaten them too...
i jus think marvel are over writing hulk at the moment because his movie came out and was a smash.... planet hul and ww hulk was garbage in my opinion
the hulk vs dvd that came out was atrocious they had hulk destroy thor BADLY it wasnt a rivalry.. he beat thor like a bad husband abusing their wife total embelishment on the writers part the hulk v wolverine part was better...
i actually thought wovlverine won that fight... he had hulk down and was about to deliver the killing blow...
so hulk is powerful but not in supes league i actually think if the writers be true like stan lee stipulated thor is greater
.

they have beaten earlier versions of the hulk i agree. however not the current hulk.

namor is scared of the hulk, he knows what he can do.

hulk beat thor so badly because he has no physical equal - its simple.

wolverine could not kill the hulk as he would have healed, also wwh showed hulk adapting to the adamantium claws as he took out every x-man ever  ::) he has also ripped wolverine in 2  ;)

seriously before wwh i could understand guys arguing about how powerful the hulk really is, and even saying the sentry and thor are stronger ( even though hulk has beaten him more times). but wwh gave us the pinacle of hulk rage and hence power - he also beat every mainstream marvel character in the process - barring thor, but if you take into consideration the times a weaker hulk has beaten him, and the fact the red hulk almost killd thor - before the green hulk beat the redhulk - it all shows once again the hulk has no physical equal.

I thought Hulk beat Sentry during WWH?

Maybe I'm wrong though... I'd have to go back and look.
hahahaha yes he did  ;)

STFU

you still here trying to make a name for yourself gimmick?



Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
Superman > Hulk.
As much of a marvel universe fan that I am, we have to give it up this fact.

Also, in Secret Wars II #6, it shows the Beyonder dominating Living Tribunal, Eternity, Master Order/Lord Chaos, Death...etc.  Before the writers retracted this character, it was the single most powerful display of any character in the comic book realm.

True about Beyonder....I have some of those issues.....it's been debated, however, as to who was more powerful:  Pre-Retcon Beyonder or Thanos w/IG.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 07:04:20 AM
the hulk who was not at full rage beat a full power not holding back sentry, yes both reverted to human form.

however robert reynolds ( not ryan or chris  ::)  ) was left unconcious at the end with banner still standing.

banner then within a few mins got angry again turned into the hulk and almost destroyed the world - all the while sentry is lying unconcious.

tell me again why you think that fight proves nothing ?  ::)
no hulk has no rage limit or strength limit - see wwh and the pic i included earlier for further proof.

superman also has kryptonite issues - hulk has no weakness.

as for the crossovers - a pathetic money making venture nothing more. perhaps he was.
 you clearly have not even read the comic - try reading it first before trying to argue with bullshit

it had no effect on the hulk as he was too angry. or perhaps it did have an effect, but the hulk still beat him - imigine the ass wooping the sentry would have got if hulk was not calmed hahahah.
.

they have beaten earlier versions of the hulk i agree. however not the current hulk.

namor is scared of the hulk, he knows what he can do.

hulk beat thor so badly because he has no physical equal - its simple.

wolverine could not kill the hulk as he would have healed, also wwh showed hulk adapting to the adamantium claws as he took out every x-man ever  ::) he has also ripped wolverine in 2  ;)

seriously before wwh i could understand guys arguing about how powerful the hulk really is, and even saying the sentry and thor are stronger ( even though hulk has beaten him more times). but wwh gave us the pinacle of hulk rage and hence power - he also beat every mainstream marvel character in the process - barring thor, but if you take into consideration the times a weaker hulk has beaten him, and the fact the red hulk almost killd thor - before the green hulk beat the redhulk - it all shows once again the hulk has no physical equal.
 hahahaha yes he did  ;)
you still here trying to make a name for yourself gimmick?





I think what mesomorph is saying (and I completely agree) is that there are several more powerful superheroes who have lost many LESS fights than Hulk; he has been beaten numerous times.  Hulk has not and never will be in the upper-echelon or "God" level with those like Thanos, etc.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 18, 2009, 08:35:47 AM
I think what mesomorph is saying (and I completely agree) is that there are several more powerful superheroes who have lost many LESS fights than Hulk; he has been beaten numerous times.  Hulk has not and never will be in the upper-echelon or "God" level with those like Thanos, etc.

in a purely physical battle i'm sure hulk would give him a good fight, especially with a wwh type rage.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 08:39:18 AM
in a purely physical battle i'm sure hulk would give him a good fight, especially with a wwh type rage.

Ok, maybe we can come up with one that DOESN'T involve Hulk, Supes, or Thor.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: drkaje on April 18, 2009, 08:41:35 AM
You guys are gay geeks.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 08:42:05 AM
Fat Panda and his fat suit OWNED.

 ;)  Panda cant back up anything, just his ILLEGAL opinion. Arabs dont know comics.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 08:45:55 AM
You guys are gay geeks.

No worse than guys who spend all day talking about oiled-up guys in thongs.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 08:46:19 AM
No Hulk has many weaknesses. Gray Hulk is weaker than savage Hulk and can't get angry as quicky or reach savage Hulks power. Savage Hulk is rather stupid. He can be very easily fooled. And of course if you calm either of them down they return to Banner who is as weak as any human. Professor Hulks strength is very limited because banners mind reigns in the anger thus limiting him. They all have their weaknesses. It is just a matter of exploiting them.

IronMan actually beat the Hulk. LOL Fat Panda is all talk like his illegal family. He has no proof, just his Arab opinion and we know that means nothing.













FAT PANDA=OWNED like his country.hahahha
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 08:51:11 AM
No Hulk has many weaknesses. Gray Hulk is weaker than savage Hulk and can't get angry as quicky or reach savage Hulks power. Savage Hulk is rather stupid. He can be very easily fooled. And of course if you calm either of them down they return to Banner who is as weak as any human. Professor Hulks strength is very limited because banners mind reigns in the anger thus limiting him. They all have their weaknesses. It is just a matter of exploiting them.














FAT PANDA=OWNED like his country.hahahha

Good points.

However, I think Panda was talking about current Hulk, whom Marvel has over-powered ridiculously.  I think it's a ploy having to do with the success of the movie franchise.

Maestro was pretty bad-ass too.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: drkaje on April 18, 2009, 08:53:41 AM
No worse than guys who spend all day talking about oiled-up guys in thongs.

True.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Dballn247 on April 18, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
How has this not turned into a ronnie vs dorian thread?

Epic flying under the radar...
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 08:55:11 AM
How has this not turned into a ronnie vs dorian thread?

It's getting close, my friend.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 08:59:05 AM
Good points.

However, I think Panda was talking about current Hulk, whom Marvel has over-powered ridiculously.  I think it's a ploy having to do with the success of the movie franchise.

Maestro was pretty bad-ass too.


hahh FatSuitPanda has gone through each of the Hulk's and all of them have been beaten.LOL Now he is trying to go with the latest Hulk in the movie, as his last resort which does not even relate to the past as does the current Superman that just came out.


Fat Panda=OWNED      Superman>Hulk    IronMan>Hulk   America >FatPanda and TeamLazyEye

















Training Day for Team Lazy Eye  vvvvvvvv
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: drkaje on April 18, 2009, 09:05:56 AM
Couldn't Superman just toss Hulk into a sun or the phantom zone?
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 09:06:44 AM
Couldn't Superman just toss Hulk into a sun or the phantom zone?

Yes he could easily. It also takes awhile for the Hulk to get to extreme power so he wouldnt be able to get as strong as Superman till it was to late.

Superman juggles planets. Hulk can only lift a mountain. Huge difference.

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Post by: drkaje on April 18, 2009, 09:19:18 AM
Yes he could easily. It also takes awhile for the Hulk to get to extreme power so he wouldnt be able to get as strong as Superman till it was to late.

One of my friends is a comic supergeek and he always argued Hulk was stronger than Superman. His logic was based on Guardian and some other character from the marvel alternate universe. Basically, he said the stuff lifted (buildings, jumbo jets) would crush under their own weight if some aspect of Superman's strength weren't levitation.

I haven't read comics in forever but guess it would come down to what the writers wanted without any logic necessary. If it were a matter of pure strength I'd go with the Hulk unless Superman's intent was to kill.
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Post by: kiwiol on April 18, 2009, 09:21:16 AM
Yes he could easily. It also takes awhile for the Hulk to get to extreme power so he wouldnt be able to get as strong as Superman till it was to late.

Superman juggles planets. Hulk can only lift a mountain. Huge difference.

What happens if you get Hulk to smoke Pot or douse him with laughing gas? Will he revert back to his 110 Bruce Banner form? ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 09:22:17 AM
One of my friends is a comic supergeek and he always argued Hulk was stronger than Superman. His logic was based on Guardian and some other character from the marvel alternate universe. Basically, he said the stuff lifted (buildings, jumbo jets) would crush under their own weight if some aspect of Superman's strength weren't levitation.

I haven't read comics in forever but guess it would come down to what the writers wanted without any logic necessary. If it were a matter of pure strength I'd go with the Hulk unless Superman's intent was to kill.

 ;)

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 09:23:53 AM
What happens if you get Hulk to smoke Pot or douse him with laughing gas? Will he revert back to his 110 Bruce Banner form? ;D

Actually that is a good point. Hulk can get so angry he has been actually made back into Banner where he is a weakling.
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 18, 2009, 09:58:14 AM
One of my friends is a comic supergeek and he always argued Hulk was stronger than Superman. His logic was based on Guardian and some other character from the marvel alternate universe. Basically, he said the stuff lifted (buildings, jumbo jets) would crush under their own weight if some aspect of Superman's strength weren't levitation.

I haven't read comics in forever but guess it would come down to what the writers wanted without any logic necessary. If it were a matter of pure strength I'd go with the Hulk unless Superman's intent was to kill.

that is true, part of supermans strength is some sort of levitation power - superman has said this himself, but its never been explained properly as far as i know.

Bigkev is melting bigtime here thats countless posts in this thread where he is melting into oblivian. quite funny really, especially as he clearly has no clue at all about comics.

condor as we have now agreed the hulk is the strongest one there is  :D

how about superman vs thanos and superman vs thor? who do you think would win those and why?
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Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 10:00:04 AM
Actually that is a good point. Hulk can get so angry he has been actually made back into Banner where he is a weakling.

That was when he was Full time Hulk only... After the 3 personalities were merged into the Big Green Banner controlled Hulk.

That can not happen today.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 10:00:26 AM
Actually that is a good point. Hulk can get so angry he has been actually made back into Banner where he is a weakling.

That happened once when he got too angry over Betty.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 18, 2009, 10:01:52 AM
That was when he was Full time Hulk only... After the 3 personalities were merged into the Big Green Banner controlled Hulk.

That can not happen today.

exactly, but i really don't bother to engage 'bigkev' it goes in one ear and out the other.

even that pic he posted - all 3 reviews say hulk is stronger.  ::)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 18, 2009, 10:04:32 AM
what about some villain vs villain action.Dr doom vs magneto
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 10:06:33 AM
what about some villain vs villain action.Dr doom vs magneto

That's easy... Doom = Metal suit.... Magneto = Control over all things Metal.

Magneto in a squash.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 18, 2009, 10:07:54 AM
what about some villain vs villain action.Dr doom vs magneto

thats about to happen in ultimatum, well its magneto vs everyone - but doom is especially pissed.

in the ultimate universe i'm sure dr doom is classed as being more powerful than thor - as i recall some mystical parasite or such had to find the most powerful host and flew into dr doom rather than thor.

would be a great fight  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 10:08:06 AM
that is true, part of supermans strength is some sort of levitation power - superman has said this himself, but its never been explained properly as far as i know.

Bigkev is melting bigtime here thats countless posts in this thread where he is melting into oblivian. quite funny really, especially as he clearly has no clue at all about comics.

condor as we have now agreed the hulk is the strongest one there is  :D

how about superman vs thanos and superman vs thor? who do you think would win those and why?

Well, we will agree to disagree on said matter.

Superman vs. Thanos
Thanos takes this 8/10 times.  There isn't really anything superman could do to hurt him.  If supes was sun-dipped maybe more swing his way.


Superman vs. Thor

Interesting fight and this has been debated widely.  I'm going to go with Thor but only by a small margin, 6/10.  It would go back and forth for a while until Thor finds out what his weakness is.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 18, 2009, 10:08:35 AM
That's easy... Doom = Metal suit.... Magneto = Control over all things Metal.

Magneto in a squash.

doom is protected by magic from magnetic forces.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 10:09:55 AM
That's easy... Doom = Metal suit.... Magneto = Control over all things Metal.

Magneto in a squash.

Actually I would almost go with Doom on this one, depending on how powered-up he was.  At one time he stole all of Surfer's Power and that is no small feat.
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Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 10:10:11 AM
doom is protected by magic from magnetic forces.

Oh that's right... I forgot he went magic in FF 500 or something like that.

Damn... Doom is much smarter than Magnus... So that changes a lot.

Very tough call then...
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 18, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
i don't understand how magento can lift thors hammer in ultimatum  ???

i havn't read all the crossover issues yet, but can someone fill me in?
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Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 10:26:32 AM
i don't understand how magento can lift thors hammer in ultimatum  ???

i havn't read all the crossover issues yet, but can someone fill me in?

Cause you are an idiot and fat arab's don't know American comics.  ;D



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMM
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Post by: big L dawg on April 18, 2009, 10:34:13 AM
Cause you are an idiot and fat arab's don't know American comics.  ;D



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMM

your a joke.everyone knows your a gimmick.you act like King kong behind your key board.in real life face to face you wouldnt say shit.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 10:37:26 AM
your a joke.everyone knows your a gimmick.you act like King kong behind your key board.in real life face to face you wouldnt say shit.

I would spit in your face then send you back to your stinky country. You would do nothing but obey. ;)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 18, 2009, 10:48:41 AM
I would spit in your face then send you back to your stinky country. You would do nothing but obey. ;)

Soooooo........you'd send me back to America?were I'm already at...like I said your a fuckin joke.keep it up you'll be the laughin stock of GetBig in no time chump.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 18, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
Well, we will agree to disagree on said matter.

Superman vs. Thanos
Thanos takes this 8/10 times.  There isn't really anything superman could do to hurt him.  If supes was sun-dipped maybe more swing his way.


Superman vs. Thor

Interesting fight and this has been debated widely.  I'm going to go with Thor but only by a small margin, 6/10.  It would go back and forth for a while until Thor finds out what his weakness is.

superman already bead thor in a much coser fight than hulk v superman
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 18, 2009, 10:51:56 AM
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 10:54:48 AM


Everyone can beat Iron Man because Tony Stark is most likely drunk and passed out.


War Machine however, well... That's a bad ass.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 18, 2009, 10:56:42 AM
sorry fatpanda but superman has moved planets... flew around earth to reverse time actually moved the moon.... he is stronger than hulk so no hulk is not the strongest on there is...
...
also read i think itss an early issue of defenders hulk v Thor he fought hulk no hammer both then hot lock in a grip that... lasted hrs none could move the other,....
those were the days of real comics these writers nowadays as wack rulk hulk picking up thors hammer because they are at zero gravity... when in fact its not gravity that makes the hammer unliftable it character...
things like this is why i stopped eading comics...
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Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 10:59:09 AM
sorry fatpanda but superman has moved planets... flew around earth to reverse time actually moved the moon.... he is stronger than hulk so no hulk is not the strongest on there is...
...
also read i think itss an early issue of defenders hulk v Thor he fought hulk no hammer both then hot lock in a grip that... lasted hrs none could move the other,....
those were the days of real comics these writers nowadays as wack rulk hulk picking up thors hammer because they are at zero gravity... when in fact its not gravity that makes the hammer unliftable it character...
things like this is why i stopped eading comics...


You can't use that version of superman... At one time, I believe it was the Pre-Crisis Superman who could do all of that stuff... Today's supes can't... and should not... and will not be able to do those things.

After the COIE, Supes was brought down to normal levels.

Captain Marvel (Shazzam) has been known to beat him down a couple of times actually. Sure, it's because it's magic, but if you've got magic, you can usually kick supes butt.

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 18, 2009, 11:08:44 AM
supeman have beaten shazaaam quite a few times...
why arent i allowed to used that version....of supes and fatpanada can use wwwh
dude the most powerful versions of both guys supes wins... u can use wwh against any version of supes supes wins....
wwh was garbage and over written....
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BigKevinD on April 18, 2009, 11:12:22 AM
sorry fatpanda but superman has moved planets... flew around earth to reverse time actually moved the moon.... he is stronger than hulk so no hulk is not the strongest on there is...
...
also read i think itss an early issue of defenders hulk v Thor he fought hulk no hammer both then hot lock in a grip that... lasted hrs none could move the other,....
those were the days of real comics these writers nowadays as wack rulk hulk picking up thors hammer because they are at zero gravity... when in fact its not gravity that makes the hammer unliftable it character...
things like this is why i stopped eading comics...


hahaahahaha    FATPANDA=OWNED AGAIN ;D















BigLDog, I am in the USA also, come show me how tough you are, or are you a little girl? ;) Quit melting down in PM's.
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Post by: kiwiol on April 18, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
Serious question for the hardcore nerds here - what's a good place to start when it comes to reading these comics? Just Marvel comics or is there other stuff, like a series? I'd like to read anything with Superman and the other superheroes being discussed here.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: MuscleKing on April 18, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
If Superman can juggle planets there is no way the Hulk can win. Superman could toss the Hulk who weighs far less than planets (lol) up to the sun where he would burn up. The Hulk is tough and strong but he is no match for Superman. By the time the Hulk got angry to become stronger, he would of already been vaporized from the sun after being tossed into it.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 11:32:29 AM
supeman have beaten shazaaam quite a few times...
why arent i allowed to used that version....of supes and fatpanada can use wwwh
dude the most powerful versions of both guys supes wins... u can use wwh against any version of supes supes wins....
wwh was garbage and over written....

Because WWH isn't a difference in the actual Hulks abilities. The Hulk just got angrier than he's ever been before... That's how he works.

The pre-crisis Supes is a complete change and was brought over time by insane writers and was reigned in by the DC editorial staff, because basically Supes was FAR too powerful and had lost his way.

WWH is still true to the Hulk mythology.

Supes can not move planets... He can't lift mountains... He can't do any of those things you guys are saying he can. The Hulk CAN still get angrier and angrier.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: MuscleKing on April 18, 2009, 11:33:40 AM
Because WWH isn't a difference in the actual Hulks abilities. The Hulk just got angrier than he's ever been before... That's how he works.

The pre-crisis Supes is a complete change and was brought over time by insane writers and was reigned in by the DC editorial staff, because basically Supes was FAR too powerful and had lost his way.

WWH is still true to the Hulk mythology.

The Hulk can't get angry if he is already dead after one toss into the sun my friend.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 11:34:11 AM
The Hulk can't get angry if he is already dead after one toss into the sun my friend.

Supes can't toss him into the sun. That's my point.
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Post by: MuscleKing on April 18, 2009, 11:39:57 AM
Supes can't toss him into the sun. That's my point.

Of course he can. Why would you think he couldn't. Buddy he can juggle planets , think about that logically. Hulk weighs far less than a planet, even less than a mountain and all the Hulk can lift is a mountain. Superman juggles planets. The weight of those is far superior to anything Hulk can do. Superman would quickly lift the Hulk and toss him into the sun as he weighs far less than a planet.
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Post by: mesmorph78 on April 18, 2009, 11:45:55 AM
Because WWH isn't a difference in the actual Hulks abilities. The Hulk just got angrier than he's ever been before... That's how he works.

The pre-crisis Supes is a complete change and was brought over time by insane writers and was reigned in by the DC editorial staff, because basically Supes was FAR too powerful and had lost his way.

WWH is still true to the Hulk mythology.

Supes can not move planets... He can't lift mountains... He can't do any of those things you guys are saying he can. The Hulk CAN still get angrier and angrier.
.. he can still
supes has no limit strength....

...can u tell sho where dc has limited his strength..
ligt mountains... cmon dude... any super strength guy can do that...
he is stronger than hulk what supes has done hulk cant sorry
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 18, 2009, 11:54:06 AM
Serious question for the hardcore nerds here - what's a good place to start when it comes to reading these comics? Just Marvel comics or is there other stuff, like a series? I'd like to read anything with Superman and the other superheroes being discussed here.

Superman is DC, as is Batman, The Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, andybody from the Justice League to name of few.

Hulk, Thor, Spidey, Daredevil, Captain America, X-Men, pretty much most of the movies that are being made today are Marvel.

I was always partial to Marvel but they are both good quality.

I would stay away from Gods and Celestial stuff like Silver Surfer, Thanos, etc., because likely they'll be throwing out a lot of crap you know nothing about.  I would stick to something basic like Spidey, Fanatastic Four, etc., and go from there.
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Post by: kiwiol on April 18, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
Superman is DC, as is Batman, The Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, andybody from the Justice League to name of few.

Hulk, Thor, Spidey, Daredevil, Captain America, X-Men, pretty much most of the movies that are being made today are Marvel.

I was always partial to Marvel but they are both good quality.

I would stay away from Gods and Celestial stuff like Silver Surfer, Thanos, etc., because likely they'll be throwing out a lot of crap you know nothing about.  I would stick to something basic like Spidey, Fanatastic Four, etc., and go from there.

Cool. Thanks brah.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 18, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
Of course he can. Why would you think he couldn't. Buddy he can juggle planets , think about that logically. Hulk weighs far less than a planet, even less than a mountain and all the Hulk can lift is a mountain. Superman juggles planets. The weight of those is far superior to anything Hulk can do. Superman would quickly lift the Hulk and toss him into the sun as he weighs far less than a planet.

No, he can't any longer... That's what Crisis on Infinite Earths did to Supes. It lowered his powers significantly.

.. he can still
supes has no limit strength....

...can u tell sho where dc has limited his strength..
ligt mountains... cmon dude... any super strength guy can do that...
he is stronger than hulk what supes has done hulk cant sorry


It's ok you think so, but I've read the Editors comments about Post Crisis superman and the point was to reduce his powers after his initial 70s power increase.

Remember, the original Superman could not fly either... He could only leap over tall buildings in a single bound.

That's where the phrase came from.

Please note "The Man of Steel" Limited series which was done around 86 I think as a Post Crisis synopsis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_of_Steel_%28comic_book%29

The Man of Steel became the official origin story for Superman from 1986 through the early 2000s. Its changes to the origin story were adapted to other media featuring Superman. Many of the biggest changes were on Superman himself. While many of his standard superpowers remained, Superman was effectively limited in power and scope to make him more believable. He still had superhuman strength, vision powers and super breath but while the Silver Age Kal-El at his peak could easily move planets, the post-Crisis version strained at moving a commercial airliner in flight. His vision powers still include x-ray, heat and microscopic/telescopic vision but are set at a more realistic level. He no longer had the ability to survive in space indefinitely without an air supply as he had done often in pre-Crisis stories. The powers dropped in succeeding stories include his ability to travel through time, freeze breath (though he still possessed super-powerful blowing strength), and super intelligence.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: kiwiol on April 18, 2009, 12:55:57 PM
Superman is DC, as is Batman, The Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, andybody from the Justice League to name of few.

Hulk, Thor, Spidey, Daredevil, Captain America, X-Men, pretty much most of the movies that are being made today are Marvel.

I was always partial to Marvel but they are both good quality.

I would stay away from Gods and Celestial stuff like Silver Surfer, Thanos, etc., because likely they'll be throwing out a lot of crap you know nothing about.  I would stick to something basic like Spidey, Fanatastic Four, etc., and go from there.

What do you think of this thread?

http://www.warez-bb.org/viewtopic.php?t=1612236&highlight=
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 19, 2009, 02:05:01 AM
Of course he can. Why would you think he couldn't. Buddy he can juggle planets , think about that logically. Hulk weighs far less than a planet, even less than a mountain and all the Hulk can lift is a mountain. Superman juggles planets. The weight of those is far superior to anything Hulk can do. Superman would quickly lift the Hulk and toss him into the sun as he weighs far less than a planet.

post me a pic of superman juggling planets.  ::)


.. he can still
supes has no limit strength....

...can u tell sho where dc has limited his strength..
ligt mountains... cmon dude... any super strength guy can do that...
he is stronger than hulk what supes has done hulk cant sorry


superman does have strength limits, and a weakness to kryptonite.  ;)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 19, 2009, 02:10:32 AM
Serious question for the hardcore nerds here - what's a good place to start when it comes to reading these comics? Just Marvel comics or is there other stuff, like a series? I'd like to read anything with Superman and the other superheroes being discussed here.

stick to marvel kiwiol.

any ultimate series ultimate x-men, ultimate fantstic-four, ultimates.

also read planet hulk then world war hulk ( best series ever)

thor has just started a new run - its only 12 or so issues into it so you could pick those up too to get you going.

mighty avengers, new avengers too - most stories in marvel are based around these at the moment.

piratebay/mininova/demonoid is your friend  ;)

you'll also need a program called - comic book reader.

any questions pm me.
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Post by: INSOMNIA on April 19, 2009, 02:15:44 AM
Jean Gray is the toughest of them all. The Phoenix would destroy the Hulk.
(http://search.aol.com/aol/redir?src=image&s_req=c67fdb247f0b7883&s_cq=jean+grey&s_cid=303461421382580757687298803766369156505&s_cim=1223269000442&s_cu=http%3A%2F%2Fi83.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj284%2FJason-Kakita%2FJeanGreyDarkPhoenixDeaconblack.jpg&s_cd=ImgDet&s_cm=image_details.M.xml)
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Post by: INSOMNIA on April 19, 2009, 02:39:28 AM
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m256/dethlefs/darkphoenix.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: kiwiol on April 19, 2009, 04:33:35 AM
stick to marvel kiwiol.

any ultimate series ultimate x-men, ultimate fantstic-four, ultimates.

also read planet hulk then world war hulk ( best series ever)

thor has just started a new run - its only 12 or so issues into it so you could pick those up too to get you going.

mighty avengers, new avengers too - most stories in marvel are based around these at the moment.

piratebay/mininova/demonoid is your friend  ;)

you'll also need a program called - comic book reader.

any questions pm me.

Cool, thanks mate. And yeah, I'll PM you for info if I get stuck.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 19, 2009, 11:27:33 AM
foget the new stuff
the old stuff is waaay better...
most stuff past 99 not really worth reading
...
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 19, 2009, 11:49:15 AM
more proof super man is at 10 times stronger than hulk
green lantern provides the harness superman moves the earth....

team hulk please dont make really have to look for more piictures its getting fairly obvious auperman is waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than hulk in fact a lot of guys hulk fights like thor can really hurt him thor always holds back mindless hulk doesnt any
here is superman pulling earth..... end of discussion
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica29.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica292.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 19, 2009, 12:00:29 PM
my next picture will be one that proves my point thor killed hulk and the thing...only losing an arm in the process.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 19, 2009, 12:19:49 PM
more proof super man is at 10 times stronger than hulk
green lantern provides the harness superman moves the earth....

team hulk please dont make really have to look for more piictures its getting fairly obvious auperman is waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than hulk in fact a lot of guys hulk fights like thor can really hurt him thor always holds back mindless hulk doesnt any
here is superman pulling earth..... end of discussion
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica29.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica292.jpg)

I'm sorry... What year is this?

Again... Read my previous posts about Post Crisis superman.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 19, 2009, 01:35:29 PM
dont care what yr..it was or is fact is superman is stronger than hulk
wwh or whichever hulk in any form cant do that....
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 19, 2009, 01:38:45 PM
dont care what yr..it was or is fact is superman is stronger than hulk
wwh or whichever hulk in any form cant do that....

So you like living in a bubble... The bottom line is that superman IS NOT stronger than Hulk.

The Post Crisis superman is a dominating force, no doubt, but he is not stronger.

I love Superman too, but let's just be honest about the facts.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 19, 2009, 01:43:25 PM
Im not living in a biubble its simple... super pulled earth... hulk cannot....
end of... i threw my pic up prove my point u threw up some comic geek fan boy babble...
i prefer hulk to superman
but superman is stronger end of
Hulk cannot do what he did ...
add that to the picture
and the answer is clear
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 19, 2009, 05:07:27 PM
Im not living in a biubble its simple... super pulled earth... hulk cannot....
end of... i threw my pic up prove my point u threw up some comic geek fan boy babble...
i prefer hulk to superman
but superman is stronger end of
Hulk cannot do what he did ...
add that to the picture
and the answer is clear


Superman IS NOT stronger... Hell, even the article I posted talks about how his powers were reduced, but you can go ahead and say what you want.

It doesn't change what the DC editorial staff says about Supes.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 19, 2009, 05:33:21 PM
Hulk can not handle the power of one exploding sun.  Sentry has the power of a million exploding suns.  No contest.  Sentry would whip the skin off him if he wanted.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: ASJChaotic on April 19, 2009, 05:35:57 PM


I didn't like it when wolverine killed her  :(


PS: superman for the win  :D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 19, 2009, 05:55:06 PM
Superman IS NOT stronger... Hell, even the article I posted talks about how his powers were reduced, but you can go ahead and say what you want.

It doesn't change what the DC editorial staff says about Supes.
where is the quote of dceditorial staff sayin superman is not stronger than hulk ... or i guess i should take your word for it...
hulk has limits his agner has limist so his strength has limits have u ever thought about that????
of can he get infinitly angree...
hulk was his most angry when acheiles from the panheon ... KIlld betty in front his seyes he got so angry he imploded and recerted to banner... so hulk does have limits...
also superman is waay stronger post any version of hulk.... moving earth and DONT quote that WWH hulk garbage when hulk said do it before i break the earth... i wanna see him doing it like i posted u the pic of super man doing it till u post that pic (which you cant
superman pwns hulk... he's beaten him £ times hands down
...you are imagining hulk is superior ... i have given you pictures a
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2009, 05:56:11 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 19, 2009, 07:05:37 PM
where is the quote of dceditorial staff sayin superman is not stronger than hulk ... or i guess i should take your word for it...
hulk has limits his agner has limist so his strength has limits have u ever thought about that????
of can he get infinitly angree...
hulk was his most angry when acheiles from the panheon ... KIlld betty in front his seyes he got so angry he imploded and recerted to banner... so hulk does have limits...
also superman is waay stronger post any version of hulk.... moving earth and DONT quote that WWH hulk garbage when hulk said do it before i break the earth... i wanna see him doing it like i posted u the pic of super man doing it till u post that pic (which you cant
superman pwns hulk... he's beaten him £ times hands down
...you are imagining hulk is superior ... i have given you pictures a


Why do you bring up the Pantheon storyline when that is not the current Hulk today?

Hulk will not revert to Banner today if he is angered... WWH showed that.

I posted the link to "The Man Of Steel"... If you haven't read it, then don't talk to me about what Superman can or can't do in the Post Crisis continuity.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 20, 2009, 05:34:42 AM
more proof super man is at 10 times stronger than hulk
green lantern provides the harness superman moves the earth....

team hulk please dont make really have to look for more piictures its getting fairly obvious auperman is waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than hulk in fact a lot of guys hulk fights like thor can really hurt him thor always holds back mindless hulk doesnt any
here is superman pulling earth..... end of discussion
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica29.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica292.jpg)

what muscle is superman using there ? if he is stronger can you explain in which movements?  ;D

no thought not, because the power of flight is not a strength.

as has been pointed out - he uses a sort of levitation while flying, not strength.

not to mention its pre crisis again  ::)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 20, 2009, 05:35:46 AM
Hulk can not handle the power of one exploding sun.  Sentry has the power of a million exploding suns.  No contest.  Sentry would whip the skin off him if he wanted.
is that why hulk beat the sentry - while giving off his sun power  ::)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 20, 2009, 05:37:40 AM


Hulk will not revert to Banner today if he is angered... WWH showed that.



exactly - i don't know how many times we need to tell meso that.

meso try to keep up - read the final wwh comic and you will no longer say these silly things.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 20, 2009, 10:46:03 AM
 Super who?


  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 20, 2009, 10:46:32 AM
 8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 20, 2009, 10:46:58 AM
you nerds are still at it, huh?  :-\
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 20, 2009, 10:53:03 AM
I want you...to remember, Clark...
In all the years to come...
In your most private moments...
I want you to remember... my hand... at your throat...
I want...you to remember
The one man who beat you...


 8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 20, 2009, 10:54:42 AM
 8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 20, 2009, 11:58:26 AM
is that why hulk beat the sentry - while giving off his sun power  ::)

He didn't beat him.

Banner did.  And Sentry doesn't have power when he is in human form.

Chasing your tail round and round doesn't change the facts.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 20, 2009, 12:06:09 PM
damn...superman getting pwned!!!by some chumps!!!
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 20, 2009, 12:09:06 PM
Batman has always owned superman... The fact of the matter is, when it comes to winning, it's not about strength or power... It's about fighting ability.

Batman is the greatest fighter in the DC universe and the 2nd greatest fighter in all of comics... He's just a hair behind Captain America.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Kwon on April 20, 2009, 12:10:01 PM
more proof super man is at 10 times stronger than hulk
green lantern provides the harness superman moves the earth....

team hulk please dont make really have to look for more piictures its getting fairly obvious auperman is waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than hulk in fact a lot of guys hulk fights like thor can really hurt him thor always holds back mindless hulk doesnt any
here is superman pulling earth..... end of discussion
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica29.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/JusticeLeagueofAmerica292.jpg)

Dude, that's a comic.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: The_Punisher on April 20, 2009, 12:19:48 PM
nobody Fuck with "The apocalyse". it's him Vs. everyone else
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 20, 2009, 12:20:40 PM
nobody Fuck with "The apocalyse". it's him Vs. everyone else

Officially unkillable... He's bad ass.

One of my favorite all time X-men villians.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 20, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Super who?


  8)
you do realise batman also beat the hulk.... too  :-\
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 20, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
nobody Fuck with "The apocalyse". it's him Vs. everyone else

Fucking right! Apocalypse is the BEST

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 20, 2009, 09:08:34 PM
Fucking right! Apocalypse is the BEST



good V tapper.needs to work on his quads.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on April 20, 2009, 10:23:10 PM
foget the new stuff
the old stuff is waaay better...
most stuff past 99 not really worth reading
...


Agree.

Only stuff i've liked after about 99 was most done by Garth Ennis, not really Superhero stuff.

Preacher, Hitman, Just a Pilgrim  ;D, wrote the Punisher for a while. Few one offs here and there like Human Target. HellBlazer (Constantine - lasted 5 minutes watching the movie  ;D).

I think Superhero stuff ran out of ideas. At one point i went back and got all the Superman's post Crisis from about 1987 onwards. It's good from 1987 to about 1994 just after he returns from the dead, got crap after that.

Mark Waid is a good writer too. Wrote Fantastic Four for a while and it was really good. Flash during the 90's as well.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on April 20, 2009, 10:31:55 PM
Preacher is the best comic i've read, not really Superhero. Really fucked up stuff, possibly making a show out of it but i couldn't imagine they will include everything.

(http://library.buffalo.edu/libraries/asl/guides/graphicnovels/img/preacher1.jpg)

Hitman - bit more Superheroy, very funny

(http://www.lifeinbook.com/uploads/posts/2007-11/1194239599_hitman.jpg)

and of course

(http://www.grinn.net/blog/dev/images/punisher.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 21, 2009, 04:47:55 AM
Agree.

Only stuff i've liked after about 99 was most done by Garth Ennis, not really Superhero stuff.

Preacher, Hitman, Just a Pilgrim  ;D, wrote the Punisher for a while. Few one offs here and there like Human Target. HellBlazer (Constantine - lasted 5 minutes watching the movie  ;D).

I think Superhero stuff ran out of ideas. At one point   i went back and got all the Superman's post Crisis from about 1987 onwards. It's good from 1987 to about 1994 just after he returns from the dead, got crap after that.

Mark Waid is a good writer too. Wrote Fantastic Four for a while and it was really good. Flash during the 90's as well.

i agree, thats when i gave up on superman too.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 21, 2009, 04:48:37 AM
Super who?


  8)

what comic is that from gracie ? looks like all star batman - certainly the same artist.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 21, 2009, 04:52:59 AM
I stopped reading when they turned him into tahat lightning guy...
hulk i dropped shortley after the pantheon..
i did read planet hulk and world war hulk ..
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 21, 2009, 04:56:45 AM

i did read planet hulk and world war hulk ..

wasn't it truly amazing  8)

hulk fulfilling his potential at last and showing what sensible comic geeks have known for a long long time:

HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: The_Punisher on April 21, 2009, 06:41:22 AM
Fucking right! Apocalypse is the BEST





I Hope Marvel entertainment included Apocalyspe in any of those X-men movies. he's the "Super of all villains". I'm about to buy the entire X-MEN Animated DVD collection. it's a must have
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 21, 2009, 06:45:45 AM
wasn't it truly amazing  8)

hulk fulfilling his potential at last and showing what sensible comic geeks have known for a long long time:

HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS  8)
Nope I thought it was garbage...future imperfect is ten times better
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 21, 2009, 07:03:46 AM


I Hope Marvel entertainment included Apocalyspe in any of those X-men movies. he's the "Super of all villains". I'm about to buy the entire X-MEN Animated DVD collection. it's a must have

torrents are your friend  ;)

Nope I thought it was garbage...future imperfect is ten times better


you seem to really like that banner version of the hulk. i enjoyed future imperfect, maestro is actually a lot like the hulk in WWH, but i prefer wwh/ph - i really like how they used his love etc to drive his rage.

i have high hopes for skaar - his son  8)

the worse thing they did recently in the hulk stories is kill abomination.

he was a character who was never used properly.

He should have been a mainstream powerhouse baddie, instead he was nothing more than a clown.

i really hope they don't waste red hulk the same way.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 21, 2009, 10:04:54 AM
I ok love savage hulk too but u have to admit that marvvl has gone too far with hulk now
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 21, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
what comic is that from gracie ? looks like all star batman - certainly the same artist.


 http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/2339_x.pdf

http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/2480_x.pdf
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 21, 2009, 03:54:20 PM
Fucking right! Apocalypse is the BEST



 Say hello to my friend.
  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Deicide on April 21, 2009, 03:55:54 PM
Say hello to my friend.
  8)

GH gut.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 21, 2009, 03:56:20 PM
 Pitt.


  8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 21, 2009, 04:00:31 PM
GH gut.


 Really?

 8)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 21, 2009, 04:12:02 PM
what comic is that from gracie ? looks like all star batman - certainly the same artist.

Jim Lee did both.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 21, 2009, 05:29:42 PM
hulk vs pitt ended in a draw
quite a good read actually
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on April 22, 2009, 03:17:34 AM

 http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/2339_x.pdf

http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/2480_x.pdf

thanks

jim lee = great great artist  8)
Jim Lee did both.
  8)

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 22, 2009, 06:47:33 AM
Batman has always owned superman... The fact of the matter is, when it comes to winning, it's not about strength or power... It's about fighting ability.

Batman is the greatest fighter in the DC universe and the 2nd greatest fighter in all of comics... He's just a hair behind Captain America.

Not always. 

Well put regarding Batman and Cap, that's how I would rank the top 2 as well.  It's just silly, though, to make Batman able to throw Superman around, like in the crossover series when Spidey was beating up Supes.....I mean come on they're not even playing the same sport.

Anyways, OWNED:

Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BIG ACH on April 22, 2009, 07:54:38 AM
How about him?

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/86919-109559-venom_super.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on April 22, 2009, 07:56:50 AM
Not always. 

Well put regarding Batman and Cap, that's how I would rank the top 2 as well.  It's just silly, though, to make Batman able to throw Superman around, like in the crossover series when Spidey was beating up Supes.....I mean come on they're not even playing the same sport.

Anyways, OWNED:




 That was in the beginning of the fight.
  Seconds later... ;)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BIG ACH on April 22, 2009, 07:57:24 AM

Spawn

(http://www.elroyonline.com/files/spawn/spawn_001.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BIG ACH on April 22, 2009, 07:59:29 AM

Lets not forget, LOL

(http://www.doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics/tick.jpg)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on April 22, 2009, 08:47:29 AM
the tick is one tuff SOB.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Condor on April 22, 2009, 09:19:36 AM

 That was in the beginning of the fight.
  Seconds later... ;)

It doesn't make any sense to me.

In the Marvel Universe, it would be akin to Daredevil smacking the Silver Surfer around.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 22, 2009, 09:22:12 AM
It doesn't make any sense to me.

In the Marvel Universe, it would be akin to Daredevil smacking the Silver Surfer around.

Well, you have to understand that Batman used his surroundings and some kryptonite to his advantage.

:)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: BayGBM on April 22, 2009, 05:14:06 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: big L dawg on December 21, 2009, 04:18:22 PM
 :)
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on December 22, 2009, 12:13:47 PM
:)

i was just thinking about this thread as i recently read what if : world war hulk.

where thor was involved. he turned up and fought hulk instead of sentry at the end, and he and hulk came to an truce and shook hands  ::)

fucking thor nuthuggers can't just admit he would have been bitch slapped like everyone else.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on December 22, 2009, 01:23:01 PM
  Batman  pwned Superman... again 8)

 
 
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Darren Avey on December 22, 2009, 01:36:53 PM
Skeletor V Darth Vader
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: mesmorph78 on December 22, 2009, 01:58:02 PM
i was just thinking about this thread as i recently read what if : world war hulk.

where thor was involved. he turned up and fought hulk instead of sentry at the end, and he and hulk came to an truce and shook hands  ::)

fucking thor nuthuggers can't just admit he would have been bitch slapped like everyone else.

please...
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Beefjake on December 22, 2009, 02:25:42 PM
Well, Kent is a nice guy and he always holds back.

He could've put Batman in to orbit in that clip but didn't.
Title: Re: THE OFFICAL:super hero vs super hero/villian thread!
Post by: Fatpanda on December 22, 2009, 03:55:07 PM
please...

talking of thor nuthuggers.............. ....................  ::)