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This asshole coldly shot that man to death and later (allegedly) claimed he was reaching for his tazer, but accidentally drew his gun instead. What a crock of shit.
NOTE: This is a real video. If you view it, you will see a man shot to death. If you do not wish to see such a horrific, tragic, and cowardly act, do not watch the clip.
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you call that horrific?
you want me to show you something horrific?
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you call that horrific?
you want me to show you something horrific?
We've already seen your photo, thanks anyway
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That is fucked up Tre... WAY fucked up.
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Yeah, that cop is fvcked.
(http://z.about.com/d/tvdramas/1/0/0/L/shield-waltgogg.jpg)
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This asshole coldly shot that man to death and later (allegedly) claimed he was reaching for his tazer, but accidentally drew his gun instead. What a crock of shit.
NOTE: This is a real video. If you view it, you will see a man shot to death. If you do not wish to see such a horrific, tragic, and cowardly act, do not watch the clip.
Any other info?
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you call that horrific?
you want me to show you something horrific?
the clip with the old man getting beaten up with a hammer in a yellow sack?
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he wont even go to jail.
WELCOME TO AMERICA
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the clip with the old man getting beaten up with a hammer in a yellow sack?
that aint shit to whats out there you know :)
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YES I AM YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS COP NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. THIS IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. I CALLED THE NUMBER TO FIND OUT WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP. 22 YEARS OLD FATHER NOW DEAD. SHOT IN THE BACK AND HE WAS TIED HANDS AND FEET.
3 COPS BETTER BE GLAD THAT THE PEOPLE DIDNT RUSH THEM
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you call that horrific?
you want me to show you something horrific?
no thanks swede ive seen all the beheading vids.
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that aint shit to whats out there you know :)
well i think thats one of the worst things ive seen, together with the russian soldier that gets his neck sliced.
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why do people watch stuff like that?
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Any other info?
I didn't hear about the story until yesterday while working over in the Bay Area and listening to local radio. One of the things that apparently happened is that the cops attempted to confiscate all cameras and cell phones from the people on the platform under the guise of 'collecting evidence'. Thankfully, they were not 100% successful.
For those who are wondering, yes, the victim did have a criminal record. He apparently served several months in state prison between 2007 and 2008, but I do not have details on his crimes.
At the time of his murder, he was working at a local market and attempting to build a life for his family. Anyone who has a young child - his daughter is 4 years old - can surely empathize with that situation.
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why do people watch stuff like that?
curiosity.
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I didn't hear about the story until yesterday while working over in the Bay Area and listening to local radio. One of the things that apparently happened is that the cops attempted to confiscate all cameras and cell phones from the people on the platform under the guise of 'collecting evidence'. Thankfully, they were not 100% successful.
For those who are wondering, yes, the victim did have a criminal record. He apparently served several months in state prison between 2007 and 2008, but I do not have details on his crimes.
At the time of his murder, he was working at a local market and attempting to build a life for his family. Anyone who has a young child - his daughter is 4 years old - can surely empathize with that situation.
Man this kind of stuff is terrible.
I hope these officers get what they deserve. >:(
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Any other info?
suppossedly the cop thought he was using his taser
::)
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why do people watch stuff like that?
The people who witnessed it had no clue that they were going to see a man murdered right before their eyes. But once they did, those who were recording the incident knew they had a civic responsibility to ensure that these horrific images were made available to the world.
We watch because we don't want to believe something like this can actually happen in the greatest nation on earth. When a young, unarmed citizen can be shot in the back by the very people sworn to PROTECT us, there's a serious problem here that must be addressed.
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Could the people who recorded this also sue for having witnessed something so disturbing?
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typical nog behavior. how did he get himself into this situation? he was fighting on bart. someone probably disrespected someone. the act it horrible, but prevention is the best medicine.
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Could the people who recorded this also sue for having witnessed something so disturbing?
Yeah, but in this case, claims of 'severe emotional distress' would be understandable.
Even so, tragedies of all types are a part of life.
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typical nog behavior. how did he get himself into this situation? he was fighting on bart. someone probably disrespected someone. the act it horrible, but prevention is the best medicine.
::) Youre a kid
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typical nog behavior. how did he get himself into this situation? he was fighting on bart. someone probably disrespected someone. the act it horrible, but prevention is the best medicine.
Regardless of what led up to him being separated from the larger crowd, once he was subdued, why was it necessary to shoot him? I'm trying to figure out how one justifies that.
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Was that a white guy they shot? It's rare that anyone ever gives a fuck if the police shoot a white man.
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Regardless of what led up to him being separated from the larger crowd, once he was subdued, why was it necessary to shoot him? I'm trying to figure out how one justifies that.
Yeah, I doubt a tazer was even necessary at that point. Cop probably just wanted to hurt the kid.
Confiscating all cameras => that perhaps shows evidence of a cover-up. I hope they put something down on paper claiming it happened differently than the tape shows, if that was their intent.
Scumbag cops. It's good that it's receiving this much coverage, however. This ensures the NEXT time the police gaffle a kid anywhere, thee will be 20 sets of cameras on hin should the unthinkable happen again.
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From what I see the cop was completely in the wrong.
But what I don't understand is everyone wants to rag on cops, corrections officers, etc. but very few understand how tough the job can be (physically & mentally). I'd like to see those who bitch about them actually do the job for a week.
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Regardless of what led up to him being separated from the larger crowd, once he was subdued, why was it necessary to shoot him? I'm trying to figure out how one justifies that.
dont even respond to that lowlife bucket of shit.
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Regardless of what led up to him being separated from the larger crowd, once he was subdued, why was it necessary to shoot him? I'm trying to figure out how one justifies that.
doesn't matter, he shouldn't have put himself in that situation. If plaxico burress didn't go to a club where he thought he might have to carry a gun, he'd be playing right now. If black people would stop being such machismo based morons, they'd be fine. Instead he was in a big fight on public transportation. I've lived in the bay area for most of my life, i've been on bart thousands of times. I've never been in a fight. you have to try pretty hard to get in a fight. he should;ve walked away, but he was probably "disrespected" and decided throwing down was the logical course of action without ever considering the future ramifications of his actions.
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Was that a white guy they shot? It's rare that anyone ever gives a fuck if the police shoot a white man.
Looks like it, but it sounds like they were talking "Wigger", so the cop probably got confused.
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doesn't matter, he shouldn't have put himself in that situation. If plaxico burress didn't go to a club where he thought he might have to carry a gun, he'd be playing right now. If black people would stop being such machismo based morons, they'd be fine. Instead he was in a big fight on public transportation. I've lived in the bay area for most of my life, i've been on bart thousands of times. I've never been in a fight. you have to try pretty hard to get in a fight. he should;ve walked away, but he was probably "disrespected" and decided throwing down was the logical course of action without ever considering the future ramifications of his actions.
dude just dont type any more. unless you were there dont comment or make assumptions on what happend before the shooting. So shut your trap. Dumb fuck
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whats so hard about staying out of a fight? seriously? machismo/ego gets a lil hurt walking away, but you don't get in TROUBLE WITH THE LAW. shit happens, the best way to avoid trouble is to stay out of it. The minute you involve yourself in violence on public transit, you're fucking yourself in the ass.
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whats so hard about staying out of a fight? seriously? machismo/ego gets a lil hurt walking away, but you don't get in TROUBLE WITH THE LAW. shit happens, the best way to avoid trouble is to stay out of it. The minute you involve yourself in violence on public transit, you're fucking yourself in the ass.
but getting shot in the back by a cop...thats a whole nother level
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whats so hard about staying out of a fight? seriously? machismo/ego gets a lil hurt walking away, but you don't get in TROUBLE WITH THE LAW. shit happens, the best way to avoid trouble is to stay out of it. The minute you involve yourself in violence on public transit, you're fucking yourself in the ass.
I agree with you on that, but if this cop would shoot that poor guy, and his fellow officers would conspire to cover it up they would do the same to you or me. :-\ Not that I'd get myself in that situation in the first place.
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I'm not justifying the cops action, i'm just saying he put himself in harms way unecessarily by breaking the law. If he had obeyed the law that night, he would be alive. True?
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i have seen my share of people with razor slashes across their faces because they got into a fight with a stranger...It is not worth it. Just walk away from assholes.
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The official story is that the guy got into a group fight with his homies on Bart at 2am in the morning. I honestly believe the cop thought he was reaching for his taser.
Nevertheless, I do know that there is now one less criminal off the street. I'm not losing sleep over this shit.
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I'm not justifying the cops action, i'm just saying he put himself in harms way unecessarily by breaking the law. If he had obeyed the law that night, he would be alive. True?
That's equivalent to the people who say "if you're not doing anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about". They do shit like that to people like him first (trouble makers), and if left unchecked they do it to people like us (law abiding citizens).
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That's equivalent to the people who say "if you're not doing anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about". They do shit like that to people like him first (trouble makers), and if left unchecked they do it to people like us (law abiding citizens).
That's your paranoia speaking.
Honestly, I'd rather oblige to the rules of the local and government authority than to live with wannabe thugs.
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1 less snot nosed punk in the world. Good riddens I say.
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That's equivalent to the people who say "if you're not doing anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about". They do shit like that to people like him first (trouble makers), and if left unchecked they do it to people like us (law abiding citizens).
Yes, BUT, the fact that he was rounded up by police is not the problem, the problem is that he got shot. If you watch the video the cop looks surprised as fuck. accidents happen, and as fucked up as this one may be, it was an accident. it doesn't change the fact that the dude shouldn't have gotten in a fight on public transit. I was on BART that nite/morning. I didnt get in a fight. People on my car were drinking and smoking weed like every new years eve on bart. but get a bunch of liquored up homies on a car, someone gets disrespected, fight starts (at this point you have created a mob scene, which means people can get trampled to death, you can get charges up the ass for something like that), police action is required. Stupidity caused the problem, the end result is extremely unfortunate. but what if they had walked away?? he'd be alive.
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dude just dont type any more. unless you were there dont comment or make assumptions on what happend before the shooting. So shut your trap. Dumb fuck
I'm with Traps on this one.
I've lived here my entire life. I work out a two exits away from where this happened, and I show up at 3am when "the happening" is just getting underway.
I've never been in a fight, I've confronted plenty of people and been confronted too. Never once was there a punch thrown.
It was probably some punk that, like Traps mentioned, felt he was disrespected. Why did he get to his situation? Because he was an idiot- plain and simple. Had he just turned a shoulder and walked away things perhaps would be different. But his stupidity, and thug mentality, put him in the wrong spot at the wrong time.
Now, what happened to him-being shot, is definitely NOT anything he deserves or should receive from anyone-much less an officer of the law. That's the part we now have to deal with.
From the officers viewpoint, he (the policeman) is in a bad neighborhood. The Fruitvale part of town is usually the area where all the shit goes down (and it's immediate surroundings). He's on Bart, at night, and there is a disruption in how things are supposed to operate. The officer is trying to subdue him. Which he did.
From that point on, nobody knows- except that officer- whether it was truly his specific intent to shoot the suspect, or just taze him. If the guy was being unruly, then the officer is allowed to taze him in order to take him away. He didn't look unruly to me, but that's a horrible video.
Maybe the cop did intend to draw his tazer. Maybe he intended to draw his gun. The way he pulled the gun out, and immediately went to firing it, makes me thing he really intended on having his tazer and made the biggest mistake of his life. :(
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Yes, BUT, the fact that he was rounded up by police is not the problem, the problem is that he got shot. If you watch the video the cop looks surprised as fuck. accidents happen, and as fucked up as this one may be, it was an accident. it doesn't change the fact that the dude shouldn't have gotten in a fight on public transit. I was on BART that nite/morning. I didnt get in a fight. People on my car were drinking and smoking weed like every new years eve on bart. but get a bunch of liquored up homies on a car, someone gets disrespected, fight starts (at this point you have created a mob scene, which means people can get trampled to death, you can get charges up the ass for something like that), police action is required. Stupidity caused the problem, the end result is extremely unfortunate. but what if they had walked away?? he'd be alive.
You're right about that, probably extremely tuff as a police officer to deal with these thug wannabe types.
Hope justice is served correctly... :P
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That's your paranoia speaking.
Nope, it's happened over and over throughout history. You can't let people abuse their power.
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Yes, BUT, the fact that he was rounded up by police is not the problem, the problem is that he got shot. If you watch the video the cop looks surprised as fuck. accidents happen, and as fucked up as this one may be, it was an accident. it doesn't change the fact that the dude shouldn't have gotten in a fight on public transit. I was on BART that nite/morning. I didnt get in a fight. People on my car were drinking and smoking weed like every new years eve on bart. but get a bunch of liquored up homies on a car, someone gets disrespected, fight starts (at this point you have created a mob scene, which means people can get trampled to death, you can get charges up the ass for something like that), police action is required. Stupidity caused the problem, the end result is extremely unfortunate. but what if they had walked away?? he'd be alive.
jesus h christ. Its not the kids fault he got shot.
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The official story is that the guy got into a group fight with his homies on Bart at 2am in the morning. I honestly believe the cop thought he was reaching for his taser.
Nevertheless, I do know that there is now one less criminal off the street. I'm not losing sleep over this shit.
Ridiculous... A cop is responsible for a person once they are under THEIR custody.
If you're in cuffs, then you're the cops responsibility... If he shoots you... That's murder.
If you get into a fight with someone because they fuck with you, they'll throw you in cuffs too... Then you can get shot in the back... Sounds like you have it all worked out don't you.
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jesus h christ. Its not the kids fault he got shot.
Can you keep debating with relevance, please?
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jesus h christ. Its not the kids fault he got shot.
I think all he's saying is that the guy could have avoided this if he wasn't causing trouble in the first place. Unless the cop apprehended him for no reason? ???
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Regardless, the cop unjustly murdered someone.
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The officer has resigned:
BART officials announced today that the officer involved in the fatal New Year's Day shooting of Oscar Grant III has resigned, effective immediately.
On Monday, Officer Johannes Mehserle's attorney postponed a meeting that had been scheduled by BART investigators for Tuesday and sought to defer the meeting until next week, according to press release from BART.
BART investigators declined the delay and scheduled a meeting with the officer for this morning. At that meeting, the officer's attorney and his union representative submitted his resignation letter. The officer was not present, according to the release from BART.
BART investigators have urged the officer to meet and cooperate with the transit agency's investigation into the fatal shooting, they said.
"This shooting is a tragic event in every respect for all involved," BART General Manager Dorothy Dugger said. "We recognize that the family and friends of Oscar Grant are in mourning and we extend our condolences."
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jesus h christ. Its not the kids fault he got shot.
no, but it is his fault that he put himself in that situation. Its completely unjust and unfair that he is dead, but he decided to break the law that night, did he not????
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no, but it is his fault that he put himself in that situation. Its completely unjust and unfair that he is dead, but he decided to break the law that night, did he not????
Yeah but the price he paid for that isnt justified
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Ridiculous... A cop is responsible for a person once they are under THEIR custody.
If you're in cuffs, then you're the cops responsibility... If he shoots you... That's murder.
If you get into a fight with someone because they fuck with you, they'll throw you in cuffs too... Then you can get shot in the back... Sounds like you have it all worked out don't you.
So, by your theory....
I get arrested for running a red late and nearly hitting a lady pushing her baby carriage. My reasoning is that I'm a whole 5min late for work. Take two lives because my boss is a dick and will write me up for being late the second time this week.
Because I'm already 5min late, I tell the cop I have to get to work immediately and gradually make myself later and later because I can't argue my way out of the ticket. Now, thanks to the cop (doing his job, and protecting the law of me running a red light, and trying to avoid the entire situation in the future), I'm over 45min late. I flip my top.
The officer throws me in cuffs and into the back of the car. Since I'm in the heat of the moment, I'm waaaay more pissed off than usual and decide I'll pick the cuffs, and the squad cars door, and make a run for it. As I run, the cop shoots me and I fall to the ground.
Who's fault is that?
Had I not run the light, nor almost hit a lady & baby, I wouldn't have been more than 45min late for work. Nor would I have been shot, been cuffed or had a ticket for (all added up) resisting arrest, child endangerment, attempted manslaughter, running a red light and excessive speed.
Which would you pick?
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SHOT IN THE BACK AND HE WAS TIED HANDS AND FEET.
and WTF would you tazer someone who is hogtied? Who wants to bet me this guy gets paid leave and never does a day in jail.
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Young Blood,
Do you disagree that the cop unjustly shot this guy, regardless of weather he really thought it was his taser or not?
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Yeah but the price he paid for that isnt justified
of course its not, i'm not a heartless bastard. I just think if he had used some common sense instead of acting like most young black men, he'd be alive tonight. common sense tells me not to fight. common sense tells me not to give a fuck about what someone says to me or thinks of me. common sense tell me to walk away from fights. all this dumbass was thinking was "ahh hell no! he can't be dun disrespectin me like dat. gotta showem whatcha got!"
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and WTF would you tazer someone who is hogtied?
Agree
The tasers were only suppose to be used in situations where they would have used lethal force. So as far as I can tell he's wrong either way.
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Nope, it's happened over and over throughout history. You can't let people abuse their power.
We don't live in a perfect world. Choose your poison.
I choose the one that is less threatening to the safety of my family, friends and I.
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So, by your theory....
I get arrested for running a red late and nearly hitting a lady pushing her baby carriage. My reasoning is that I'm a whole 5min late for work. Take two lives because my boss is a dick and will write me up for being late the second time this week.
Because I'm already 5min late, I tell the cop I have to get to work immediately and gradually make myself later and later because I can't argue my way out of the ticket. Now, thanks to the cop (doing his job, and protecting the law of me running a red light, and trying to avoid the entire situation in the future), I'm over 45min late. I flip my top.
The officer throws me in cuffs and into the back of the car. Since I'm in the heat of the moment, I'm waaaay more pissed off than usual and decide I'll pick the cuffs, and the squad cars door, and make a run for it. As I run, the cop shoots me and I fall to the ground.
Who's fault is that?
Had I not run the light, nor almost hit a lady & baby, I wouldn't have been more than 45min late for work. Nor would I have been shot, been cuffed or had a ticket for (all added up) resisting arrest, child endangerment, attempted manslaughter, running a red light and excessive speed.
Which would you pick?
Dude... you're not listening... Once you are in police custody... YOUR LIFE IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
End of story.
If he shoots you when you can no longer harm anyone... He has murdered you.
If you're in cuffs... you are not harming anyone.
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Young Blood,
Do you disagree that the cop unjustly shot this guy, regardless of weather he really thought it was his taser or not?
Read my first response. I already answered your question.
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Agree
The tasers were only suppose to be used in situations where they would have used lethal force. So as far as I can tell he's wrong either way.
He did it out of anger and or malice because at that point he was in no danger.
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typical nog behavior. how did he get himself into this situation? he was fighting on bart. someone probably disrespected someone. the act it horrible, but prevention is the best medicine.
::)
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Btw, I love how the family is racing to cash in on his death with a $25 million lawsuit.
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Btw, I love how the family is racing to cash in on his death with a $25 million lawsuit.
nothing wrong with that, they should get all they can.
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nothing wrong with that, they should get all they can.
agreed, they should be suing the shit outta bart or whoever is in charge of that police division.
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nothing wrong with that, they should get all they can.
Right, but the lawsuit was filed before the man's body was in the ground.
That being said, they *had* to retain a lawyer right away. There was really no getting around that. You can't really expect radio silence from them after their loved one has been murdered in cold blood. So, to prevent anything unhelpful being said by them, a lawyer got himself retained to represent the family.
He's the one who suggested getting the papers filed with their intentions.
They're probably going to get $2-3 million, which - after legal fees - should all be placed into a trust for care of the child. The state should ensure that the child's mother is not given license to abuse the trust.
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Right, but the lawsuit was filed before the man's body was in the ground.
That being said, they *had* to retain a lawyer right away. There was really no getting around that. You can't really expect radio silence from them after their loved one has been murdered in cold blood. So, to prevent anything unhelpful being said by them, a lawyer got himself retained to represent the family.
He's the one who suggested getting the papers filed with their intentions.
They're probably going to get $2-3 million, which - after legal fees - should all be placed into a trust for the child.
hahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, 2-3 million for a human life? any decent lawyer should be able to get at least 100 million, that's the only way these people learn, hit them in their wallets.
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Right, but the lawsuit was filed before the man's body was in the ground.
That being said, they *had* to retain a lawyer right away. There was really no getting around that. You can't really expect radio silence from them after their loved one has been murdered in cold blood. So, to prevent anything unhelpful being said by them, a lawyer got himself retained to represent the family.
He's the one who suggested getting the papers filed with their intentions.
They're probably going to get $2-3 million, which - after legal fees - should all be placed into a trust for the child.
Also, this is the same lawyer that represented Rodney King during his trial with the LAPD beating. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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hahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, 2-3 million for a human life? any decent lawyer should be able to get at least 100 million, that's the only way these people learn, hit them in their wallets.
Let's be realistic. You're not getting 100 million for any regular joe's life, especially someone with a criminal record.
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Let's be realistic. You're not getting 100 million for any regular joe's life, especially someone with a criminal record.
and i suppose you defend what these fuccking scumbags did? ::)
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and i suppose you defend what these fuccking scumbags did? ::)
I honestly think he made a mistake and was reaching for a taser. I don't condone the shooting of anyone that is already subdued.
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I honestly think he made a mistake and was reaching for a taser. I don't condone the shooting of anyone that is already subdued.
that ain't what the video showed.
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Let's be realistic. You're not getting 100 million for any regular joe's life, especially someone with a criminal record.
I read once that if you added up all of the odd nutrients and things in the human body that are no where else, you could sell a body in for around 50 million dollars.
I'd say you have be giving them 100 million TAX free... The cost of human life is immeasurable.
Only selfish chickenhawk jackasses say it's not.
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I read once that if you added up all of the odd nutrients and things in the human body that are no where else, you could sell a body in for around 50 million dollars.
I'd say you have be giving them 100 million TAX free... The cost of human life is immeasurable.
Only selfish chickenhawk jackasses say it's not.
you have to remember that to rednecks like "dkf360" a rich, white, conservative businessman's life is worth more than a black "regular joe" with a criminal record. ::)
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I read once that if you added up all of the odd nutrients and things in the human body that are no where else, you could sell a body in for around 50 million dollars.
I'd say you have be giving them 100 million TAX free... The cost of human life is immeasurable.
Only selfish chickenhawk jackasses say it's not.
No, as much as you'd like to believe a human life is worth 100 million dollars, it is not.
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you have to remember that to rednecks like "dkf360" a rich, white, conservative businessman's life is worth more than a black "regular joe" with a criminal record. ::)
So you're trying to tell me someone who is a criminal is worth as much as a law-abiding citizen in society? I think not.
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I honestly think he made a mistake and was reaching for a taser. I don't condone the shooting of anyone that is already subdued.
Usually you keep the taser on the opposite side of the gun... Even if he meant to reach for a Taser, he's an idiot and should have never been given the power to take someones freedoms away (that's what an arrest is) or given the power to take a life.
This guy is an idiot and a poster boy for why we need the right to keep and bear arms and should be allowed to carry at all times.
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Usually you keep the taser on the opposite side of the gun... Even if he meant to reach for a Taser, he's an idiot and should have never been given the power to take someones freedoms away (that's what an arrest is) or given the power to take a life.
This guy is an idiot and a poster boy for why we need the right to keep and bear arms and should be allowed to carry at all times.
The bolded doesn't help you if you get into it with the authorities.
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So you're trying to tell me someone who is a criminal is worth as much as a law-abiding citizen in society? I think not.
A dude who has a small record is not a "criminal" and just because he got into a fight doesn't mean he deserved to live any less than a "law-abiding" citizen.
You'd have called Madoff a law-abiding citizen 6 months ago... while he was robbing 50 billion dollars I'm sure.
So yeah... I'd say human life even of a person who got in a fight is worth 100 million... EASY.
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So you're trying to tell me someone who is a criminal is worth as much as a law-abiding citizen in society? I think not.
they're both human beings asshole, funny thing is that you probably profess to be a "christian" and worship your fairy tale "savior" Jesus and you go against EVERYTHING he professed to believe, "people" like you are the reason i'd rather be around my dog than people.
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From what I see the cop was completely in the wrong.
But what I don't understand is everyone wants to rag on cops, corrections officers, etc. but very few understand how tough the job can be (physically & mentally). I'd like to see those who bitch about them actually do the job for a week.
Fuck that bullshit! I've workd in jails before. Tough? BULL FUCKING SHIT! Some cops have tough jobs. MOST ARE DICKLESS ASSHOLES THESE DAYS! COMPLETE FUCK UPS WITH A BADGE!
I mean my god am I watching the same fucking video as you guys? A stupid fucking idiot cop handcuffs a kid and then accidentally shoots him and you are all sitting around analyzing the shit out of it like it's some fucking Rodney king beating. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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The bolded doesn't help you if you get into it with the authorities.
The authorities is WHY the 2nd amendment was created.
they're both human beings asshole, funny thing is that you probably profess to be a "christian" and worship your fairy tale "savior" Jesus and you go against EVERYTHING he professed to believe, "people" like you are the reason i'd rather be around my dog than people.
You're absolutely right there... Jesus would have never condoned shooting this guy in the back... NEVER.
Bullshit Christians... think that going to church on Sunday makes up for the hate in their hearts.
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Fuck that bullshit! I've workd in jails before. Tough? BULL FUCKING SHIT! Some cops have tough jobs. MOST ARE DICKLESS ASSHOLES THESE DAYS! COMPLETE FUCK UPS WITH A BADGE!
I mean my god am I watching the same fucking video as you guys? A stupid fucking idiot cop handcuffs a kid and then accidentally shoots him and you are all sitting around analyzing the shit out of it like it's some fucking Rodney king beating. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
This is Getbig, most children on here are not very bright.
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So you're trying to tell me someone who is a criminal is worth as much as a law-abiding citizen in society? I think not.
You're a fucking idiot. That "criminal" in that video looks like a 150lb KID! He did his time and the system let him out plain and fucking simple. Most of our prisons are overcrowded with nonviolent drug offenders. You're on bodybuilding steroid message board. Your government would throw your ass away for years sticking a pin full of hormones in your ass. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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A dude who has a small record is not a "criminal" and just because he got into a fight doesn't mean he deserved to live any less than a "law-abiding" citizen.
You'd have called Madoff a law-abiding citizen 6 months ago... while he was robbing 50 billion dollars I'm sure.
So yeah... I'd say human life even of a person who got in a fight is worth 100 million... EASY.
He has a criminal record, which means he is a criminal. Don't try to trivialize that shit like homey was a model citizen.
Look, I'll be straight with you. If I had a chance to choose between the death of a criminal or a UC Berkeley student with a clean record, you would already know my answer. Why? Because I am investing in the future of American society. We don't need more 'thugs' in Oakland. It's already fucked up as it is.
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This is Getbig, most children on here are not very bright.
What's funny is 99% of the big tough muscle bound morons on here would have done just like the people in the video behind the camera......JACK SHIT!
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The authorities is WHY the 2nd amendment was created.
You're absolutely right there... Jesus would have never condoned shooting this guy in the back... NEVER.
Bullshit Christians... think that going to church on Sunday makes up for the hate in their hearts.
Yes, get into a shoot out with the cops and we can guess who will come out on top in that one.
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they're both human beings asshole, funny thing is that you probably profess to be a "christian" and worship your fairy tale "savior" Jesus and you go against EVERYTHING he professed to believe, "people" like you are the reason i'd rather be around my dog than people.
Not all human life is equal. I didn't create that rule. Live with it.
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He has a criminal record, which means he is a criminal. Don't try to trivialize that shit like homey was a model citizen.
Look, I'll be straight with you. If I had a chance to choose between the death of a criminal or a UC Berkeley student with a clean record, you would already know my answer. Why? Because I am investing in the future of American society. We don't need more 'thugs' in Oakland. It's already fucked up as it is.
Hahah you are full of shit. You've never set foot on a college campus. There are more drugs at USC than in fucking Compton dipshit!
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Not all human life is equal. I didn't create that rule. Live with it.
Hey in my book there is no difference between Tookie Williams and Berney Madoff. But you're still a moron!
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Hahah you are full of shit. You've never set foot on a college campus. There are more drugs at USC than in fucking Compton dipshit!
What does that have to do with who becomes a productive member of society?
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Not all human life is equal. I didn't create that rule. Live with it.
hahahaha, fucck off bitch, go play in traffic, seriously.
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Hahah you are full of shit. You've never set foot on a college campus. There are more drugs at USC than in fucking Compton dipshit!
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Yes, get into a shoot out with the cops and we can guess who will come out on top in that one.
Don't be an idiot... The 2nd amendment was created so that the people, if they so deem it necessary, can rise up against the authoritative machine and overthrow the government in revolt if required.
You know... The American Revolution.
Not all human life is equal. I didn't create that rule. Live with it.
We have a true Christian here gang!
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QFMFT
Don't be an idiot... The 2nd amendment was created so that the people, if they so deem it necessary, can rise up against the authoritative machine and overthrow the government in revolt if required.
You know... The American Revolution.
We have a true Christian here gang!
Yes, please lead by example and let this event be the cause and we'll see how many 'troops' you can rally up.
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The authorities is WHY the 2nd amendment was created.
He doesn't seem to understand the concept.
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He doesn't seem to understand the concept.
But I'm smart enough not to vote for Ron Paul. ;D
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Yes, please lead by example and let this event be the cause and we'll see how many 'troops' you can rally up.
Trust me it's happening. Behind the scenes. There are VERY powerful people and A LOT of them taking notice of what's happening to America. There is going to be another civil war. Maybe not in our lifetime but in our children's lifetime. And it will make the civil war look like a a dildo party for MILFs.
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One less thug off the streets
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He doesn't seem to understand the concept.
No he doesn't...
Yes, please lead by example and let this event be the cause and we'll see how many 'troops' you can rally up.
There are more "troops" than you know...
Quoted to show that you're a sheep who will do nothing but sit around and talk, yet never do anything.
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But I'm smart enough not to vote for Ron Paul. ;D
Dumb enough not to realize that ALL politicians have their faults. NO one is perfect. Ron Paul isn't perfect but he's a helluva lot better than the alternative.
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Trust me it's happening. Behind the scenes. There are VERY powerful people and A LOT of them taking notice of what's happening to America. There is going to be another civil war. Maybe not in our lifetime but in our children's lifetime. And it will make the civil war look like a a dildo party for MILFs.
Oh please, as if something this big was happening behind the scenes, Getbig posters will be the first to know. ::)
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No he doesn't...
There are more "troops" than you know...
Quoted to show that you're a sheep who will do nothing but sit around and talk, yet never do anything.
I'm sitting around and not doing anything because this event is a 'no-op' for me, as it has no effect to my everyday life. If there is something worthy of fighting for which they believe in, I'm sure almost everyone will participate.
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I'm sitting around and not doing anything because this event is a 'no-op' for me, as it has no effect to my everyday life. If there is something worthy of fighting for which they believe in, I'm sure almost everyone will participate.
Not if they are like you... They will just turn the other cheek.
Many of your kind back in 1776 didn't want to revolt... Good thing REAL men moved them the fuck out of the way.
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Dumb enough not to realize that ALL politicians have their faults. NO one is perfect. Ron Paul isn't perfect but he's a helluva lot better than the alternative.
No hes not. Ron Paul is living in his own warped reality and no longer a factor. Let's not hijack this thread.
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From what I see the cop was completely in the wrong.
But what I don't understand is everyone wants to rag on cops, corrections officers, etc. but very few understand how tough the job can be (physically & mentally). I'd like to see those who bitch about them actually do the job for a week.
Amen iron brother,ive been a CO for 7 years in one of the most dangerous cities in the US!
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Trust me it's happening. Behind the scenes. There are VERY powerful people and A LOT of them taking notice of what's happening to America. There is going to be another civil war. Maybe not in our lifetime but in our children's lifetime. And it will make the civil war look like a a dildo party for MILFs.
Really stepping up your retarded conspiracy theory bullshit lately. Why is it always the people who strike you as the dumbest on the forum that parrot the most inane theories?
As for the incident, that was disgusting. I can't see how someone who is cuffed is a threat.
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Not if they are like you... They will just turn the other cheek.
Many of your kind back in 1776 didn't want to revolt... Good thing REAL men moved them the fuck out of the way.
So you're telling me the tipping point for starting a new revolution in America is that a thug gets shot accidently in a crime-ridden part of Oakland? You seem to lack the comprehension that not everyone thinks this is a worthy cause.
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So you're telling me the tipping point for starting a new revolution in America is that a thug gets shot accidently in a crime-ridden part of Oakland? You seem to lack the comprehension that not everyone thinks this is a worthy cause.
No... I'm telling you that you're just turning the other cheek and will always do so.
You are a sheep.
Eventually, the tipping point will happen and you will still try to turn away... It's your MO.
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No... I'm telling you that you're just turning the other cheek and will always do so.
You are a sheep.
Eventually, the tipping point will happen and you will still try to turn away... It's your MO.
Yep, you sure as hell know me alright. ::)
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jesus h christ. Its not the kids fault he got shot.
It is his fault for having a criminal record and for getting into further trouble. Sad as it is, people like him take away the overall equity of society and need to be held accountable.
I live in NYC and never had problems with cops. But so many wannabe thugs cause trouble or look for it and get into altercations with cops. Suddenly then they become victims of brutality and them being held accountable for their own actions goes out the window.
All in all, it's sad that the guy lost his life. He was restrained and there was no reason for the cop to shoot him like that. :-\ He should be brought to trail and stripped of his job.
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Yep, you sure as hell know me alright. ::)
I've learned all I care to in about 30 minutes.
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fuck. ive been at that bart station. fucking cop. tdamn lucky there wasnt any real gangsters at that staion. lucky that wasnt the downtown okland station (th street i believe). dude definitely would have had a bullet in his head for doing that.
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It is his fault for having a criminal record and for getting into further trouble. Sad as it is, people like him take away the overall equity of society and need to be held accountable.
I live in NYC and never had problems with cops. But so many wannabe thugs cause trouble or look for it and get into altercations with cops. Suddenly then they become victims or brutality and them being held accountable for their own actions goes out the window.
All in all, it's sad that the guy lost his life. He was restrained and there was no reason for the cop to shoot him like that. :-\ He should be brought to trail and stripped of his job.
Do you think the cops knew he had a criminal record when they shot him?
I'm sure they had no idea who he was.
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Do you think the cops knew he had a criminal record when they shot him?
I'm sure they had no idea who he was.
Why was he restrained in the first place? ::) He ultimately put himself in that situation.
And I said the cop was out of line and should be brought to trail and be stripped of his job.
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Why was he restrained in the first place? ::) He ultimately put himself in that situation.
And I said the cop was out of line and should be brought to trail and be stripped of his job.
The cop resigned today.
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fuck. ive been at that bart station. fucking cop. tdamn lucky there wasnt any real gangsters at that staion. lucky that wasnt the downtown okland station (th street i believe). dude definitely would have had a bullet in his head for doing that.
What are you talking about? Fruitvale bart station is just as bad as downtown. If nobody did anything there, then I'm sure no one would have 'licked off' a shot at the officers in downtown either.
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What are you talking about? Fruitvale bart station is just as bad as downtown. If nobody did anything there, then I'm sure no one would have 'licked off' a shot at the officers in downtown either.
i dont ride it everyday or anythin, but in my experiene downtown oakland station, and the oakland a's station were the worst ones
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As for the incident, that was disgusting. I can't see how someone who is cuffed is a threat.
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Whatever happened to just whoopin someones ass with a billy club?
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i dont ride it everyday or anythin, but in my experiene downtown oakland station, and the oakland a's station were the worst ones
In my experience, almost al the stations have gotten worst over the last five years. But you're right about the one getting off at the coliseum, because it drops you off in the deeper part of east Oakland.
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Btw, does anyone know if Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton has shown up for this tragedy yet?
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Yes, BUT, the fact that he was rounded up by police is not the problem, the problem is that he got shot. If you watch the video the cop looks surprised as fuck. accidents happen, and as fucked up as this one may be, it was an accident. it doesn't change the fact that the dude shouldn't have gotten in a fight on public transit. I was on BART that nite/morning. I didnt get in a fight. People on my car were drinking and smoking weed like every new years eve on bart. but get a bunch of liquored up homies on a car, someone gets disrespected, fight starts (at this point you have created a mob scene, which means people can get trampled to death, you can get charges up the ass for something like that), police action is required. Stupidity caused the problem, the end result is extremely unfortunate. but what if they had walked away?? he'd be alive.
Surprised??? Hell No, ANd did anybody notice, no First AID was administered? He was just laying there, and the other cops were walking around. No turning the dude over, no and trying to see if he was able to be revived.
Also I read that the cuff were put on AFTER he DIED!!! IS That true, if so then that is some SHADY shit.
As far as getting into a fight, it happens, He was out on what, New Year's Eve, and two cops had him on his back, the third (the idiot) could have cuffed him, there was no need to pull a Taser. Period. Officers now are relying to much on Tasers.
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I haven't heard of this yet until I saw the video. If the victim is white it will not get any coverage, which is too bad. The cop was way out of line shooting the scum bag. It's too bad the dead kid didn't cooperate when he was alive. It's ashame that so much of the human race behaves worse than caged animals. I dont feel sorry for the kid, I dont feel sorry for the cop. Whats so hard with obeying the law? There is no excuse for the whole situation. Cops can be hot heads and civilians can be scum bags. People need to stop getting themselves in these situations. One less hothead cop on the street and one less scumbag who cannot reproduce. PIP
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I haven't heard of this yet until I saw the video. If the victim is white it will not get any coverage, which is too bad. The cop was way out of line shooting the scum bag. It's too bad the dead kid didn't cooperate when he was alive. It's ashame that so much of the human race behaves worse than caged animals. I dont feel sorry for the kid, I dont feel sorry for the cop. Whats so hard with obeying the law? There is no excuse for the whole situation. Cops can be hot heads and civilians can be scum bags. People need to stop getting themselves in these situations. One less hothead cop on the street and one less scumbag who cannot reproduce. PIP
the guy had his hands handcuffed behind his back. ::)
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the guy had his hands handcuffed behind his back. ::)
Actually, the front page article on CNN says he was uncuffed. Some were cuffed and some weren't, and he was one of the uncuffed ones.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/07/BART.shooting/index.html
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Actually, the front page article on CNN says he was uncuffed. Some were cuffed and some weren't, and he was one of the uncuffed ones.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/07/BART.shooting/index.html
He looked cuffed to me.
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He did it out of anger and or malice because at that point he was in no danger.
Correct. it would have been an unlawful tase at that point anyway, just to punish the kid.
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No... I'm telling you that you're just turning the other cheek and will always do so.
You are a sheep.
Eventually, the tipping point will happen and you will still try to turn away... It's your MO.
Yep
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I've learned all I care to in about 30 minutes.
Same here
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doesn't matter, he shouldn't have put himself in that situation. If plaxico burress didn't go to a club where he thought he might have to carry a gun, he'd be playing right now. If black people would stop being such machismo based morons, they'd be fine. Instead he was in a big fight on public transportation. I've lived in the bay area for most of my life, i've been on bart thousands of times. I've never been in a fight. you have to try pretty hard to get in a fight. he should;ve walked away, but he was probably "disrespected" and decided throwing down was the logical course of action without ever considering the future ramifications of his actions.
agree ...
why do these people end being handcuffed by cops in the first place is the real question.
It would never hapen to me cause i m just not stupid enough to do anything that would lead me to be handcuffed by cops.
Police has all the rights and it's Ok to me. That's what i expect from them, that they deal with REAL assholes and put em out of their misery for the good of the society.
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why do these people end being handcuffed by cops in the first place is the real question.
It is standard procedure during an "arrest". So if you are pulled over for unpaid parking tickets then you are cuffed before you are brought to the station. This kinda gives new meaning to the phrase "sir you are being cuffed for your own safety" ::)
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It is standard procedure during an "arrest". So if you are pulled over for unpaid parking tickets then you are cuffed before you are brought to the station. This kinda gives new meaning to the phrase "sir you are being cuffed for your own safety" ::)
LOL, that's always funny. ;D
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It is standard procedure during an "arrest". So if you are pulled over for unpaid parking tickets then you are cuffed before you are brought to the station. This kinda gives new meaning to the phrase "sir you are being cuffed for your own safety" ::)
This is true... Many cops will cuff you simply because they can.
Once that is done, they have taken away your rights... Instantly.
You are no longer "free" you are in their custody and they are responsible for your life.
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fucking e-warriors on here... yeah, walking down the streets minding your own business and not starting shit with other citizens often gets you cuffed by cops who just do it randomly for the laugh ...
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fucking e-warriors on here... yeah, walking down the streets minding your own business and not starting shit with other citizens often gets you cuffed by cops who just do it randomly for the laugh ...
Settle down faggybones.
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It is standard procedure during an "arrest". So if you are pulled over for unpaid parking tickets then you are cuffed before you are brought to the station. This kinda gives new meaning to the phrase "sir you are being cuffed for your own safety" ::)
not the same situation obviously.. there was just a fight everyone is still hostile and angry. not a bad idea to cuff everyone involved untill the situation cools down and is resolved.. as long as you explain to them your not under arrest..
and trust me, once you get shot and stabbed a few times you learn to do this..
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It would never hapen to me cause i m just not stupid enough to do anything that would lead me to be handcuffed by cops.
Sir you are an imbecile.
Say ,you are walking by yourself ,downtown 2 AM, and some drunk toothless crackwhore bitch says "officer that guy over there (pointing at you)raped me.
What do you think would happen to you ? ;)
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Regardless of what started the incident, I saw nothing that looked like resisting arrest at all until a small struggle broke out once the cop put his knee in the kids back and forced his face to the ground, just look at the body language of the people there, the only hostility was from the cops :P, i saw no need for a tazer at all. The other thing that gets me is once you watch it over the cop seems like he had plenty of time to know if he was holding a gun or a tazer :o. I know being a cop is a tough job but man this is some bad shit right here :-\.
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Sir you are an imbecile.
Say ,you are walking by yourself ,downtown 2 AM, and some drunk toothless crackwhore bitch says "officer that guy over there (pointing at you)raped me.
What do you think would happen to you ? ;)
nothing if it was a cop with half a brain. if you knew something about rapists, and rape victims after an 'attack' you would know that situation would be fake from the beginning..
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the guy had his hands handcuffed behind his back. ::)
actually he didn't ;) ::)
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Sir you are an imbecile.
Say ,you are walking by yourself ,downtown 2 AM, and some drunk toothless crackwhore bitch says "officer that guy over there (pointing at you)raped me.
What do you think would happen to you ? ;)
Again,you're the retard to believe i could be walking by myself downtown at 2 am . You could have guessed by what i said previously that i'm not the kind of guy who would do soemthing that stupid. At 2 AM i'm sleeping like any normal person would u ####.
You know what i think? I think most of you on here are blacks or stupid teens who thought they were badasses and got their asses whopped by cops in the past hence the drama you're making out of this story.
Funny that your nickname is dramaqueen btw.
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nothing if it was a cop with half a brain. if you knew something about rapists, and rape victims after an 'attack' you would know that situation would be fake from the beggining..
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You need more information about "Wrongful Convictions ", shit like that happen all the time .
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You need more information about "Wrongful Convictions ", shit like that happen all the time .
to whom?
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to whom?
http://www.truthinjustice.org ;)
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http://www.truthinjustice.org ;)
how old are you seriously?
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how old are you seriously?
http://www.truthinjustice.org/imprisoned.htm
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I've learned all I care to in about 30 minutes.
Agreed. That cop needs to go to jail, period. I don't care if it's a hood-rat or a little old lady, he doesn't have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner, and he needs to go to jail for a long time to make the rest of them think twice.
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What's funny is 99% of the big tough muscle bound morons on here would have done just like the people in the video behind the camera......JACK SHIT!
what were they supposed to do? attack the cops and certainly cause further shooting and deaths?
idiot
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tu/musclemanus
I'd like to hear more about this upcoming civil war...how do you see it playing out
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Just great. Today there were protesters at the bart station where this happened. It prevented thousands of hard-working citizens who had nothing to do with the shooting, a chance to get off at this stop. They now have to exit at the stations previous and after it, meaning an extra 30+ block journey.
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tu/musclemanus
I'd like to hear more about this upcoming civil war...how do you see it playing out
I can tell you what eventually happens...the revolutionaries (thugs and idiots) get wiped the fuck off the map.
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yea seriously.
i mean this country is on the decline in many ways, but any kind of insurgency is as unrealistic as it is impossible
i just wanted to hear what these modern day Robespierres/jeffersons have in plan
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what were they supposed to do? attack the cops and certainly cause further shooting and deaths?
idiot
This is fucking America not fucking Nazi Germany dude. 4-5 guys walking up to the cops and asking them what they are doing is different than "attacking cops" IDIOT! Look at the RIOTS IN GREECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COPS won't get away with this shit forever! People can and will fight back.
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"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Armed citizens are a check on the government, keeping them from abusing the power we give them.
If any of you can't comprehend that, well...
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yes, look at the riots in greece! glorious
100s of shops burned out, 10000s out work
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10000s out work
Many more Americans are out of work, and we're not putting our government in its place like the Greeks are.
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Wow. Big suprise. ;D ;D That's what cops do, they kill people. It's 2009, if you haven't figured that out you're an idiot.
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Wow. Big suprise. ;D ;D That's what cops do, they kill people. It's 2009, if you haven't figured that out you're an idiot.
haha
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Agreed. That cop needs to go to jail, period. I don't care if it's a hood-rat or a little old lady, he doesn't have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner, and he needs to go to jail for a long time to make the rest of them think twice.
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Many more Americans are out of work, and we're not putting our government in its place like the Greeks are.
Most of those greeks are teenagers/kids in their 20s who think it's cool to fight the machine. ::)
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of course its not, i'm not a heartless bastard. I just think if he had used some common sense instead of acting like most young black men, he'd be alive tonight. common sense tells me not to fight. common sense tells me not to give a fuck about what someone says to me or thinks of me. common sense tell me to walk away from fights. all this dumbass was thinking was "ahh hell no! he can't be dun disrespectin me like dat. gotta showem whatcha got!"
Don't be retarded, hundreds if not thousands of people get thrown in the drunk tank every fucking day for doing retarded and even physical shit...Cops never need to shoot to kill anyone who is unarmed...
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Why the fuk did these idiots just stand around after he was shot?? Honestly I'm in shock. ???
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Don't be retarded, hundreds if not thousands of people get thrown in the drunk tank every fucking day for doing retarded and even physical shit...Cops never need to shoot to kill anyone who is unarmed...
Yeah, and they are in the tank because they broke the law. this shooting was entirely accidental. it sux, but the guy shouldn't have put himself in this situation to begin with.
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Yeah, and they are in the tank because they broke the law. this shooting was entirely accidental. it sux, but the guy shouldn't have put himself in this situation to begin with.
Don't be silly...The kid is lying dead somewhere for acting childish and Bernard Madoff steals 50 billion dollars and is walking the streets and cops are afraid of his ass...Its retarded...
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Don't be silly...The kid is lying dead somewhere for acting childish and Bernard Madoff steals 50 billion dollars and is walking the streets and cops are afraid of his ass...Its retarded...
Correct. 99.9% of all cops are born cowards and will die as cowards. That's why they carry guns, tear gas, batons, radios, wear bullet-proof vest, and travel in armed convoys. Pigs are the shit of the planet... always have been, always will be. And they will kill you at the drop of a pin, if they feel threatened.
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Most of those greeks are teenagers/kids in their 20s who think it's cool to fight the machine. ::)
Didn't know
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Correct. 99.9% of all cops are born cowards and will die as cowards. That's why they carry guns, tear gas, batons, radios, wear bullet-proof vest, and travel in armed convoys. Pigs are the shit of the planet... always have been, always will be. And they will kill you at the drop of a pin, if they feel threatened.
On top of that, when their partner fucks up no matter how bad, he will protect him to the end...Even if the partner shoots a kid...These cops lie under oath almost every time they go on the stand...Even for simple speeding violations...They are trained to do this...SAd...
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Why the fuk did these idiots just stand around after he was shot?? Honestly I'm in shock. ???
Because they went right into Holy fuck we have to cover this shit up mode...
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I can tell you what eventually happens...the revolutionaries (thugs and idiots) get wiped the fuck off the map.
For the rest of the class, this is what a British sympathizer would have talked like in 1776.
Because they went right into Holy fuck we have to cover this shit up mode...
Testify like a guy TechnoViking.
Testify.
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For the rest of the class, this is what a British sympathizer would have talked like in 1776.
Some people are pussies. ::)
I thank god for other people like you all the time tu_holmes.
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Some people are pussies. ::)
I thank god for other people like you all the time tu_holmes.
We are not as few in numbers as some people believe.
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We are not as few in numbers as some people believe.
You're absolutely right.
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HEY EVERYONE!!!! guess what the blacks are doing tonight in oakland in protest?! vandalism, setting fire to cars (3), smashing windows, flipping cars. These morons will never learn. Black mayor Ron Dellum was booed offstage by the crowd. These people get dumber by the day.
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this is getting out of hand, i'm watching live on the news. Martin Luther King, one of my heroes, would condemn the actions of modern day black society. fucking idiots, all of them. When in doubt, act like your stereotype... fucking idiots.
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and they attacked an ABC-7 camera man, broke his camera, and beat him up. nice people.
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this is getting out of hand, i'm watching live on the news. Martin Luther King, one of my heroes, would condemn the actions of modern day black society. fucking idiots, all of them. When in doubt, act like your stereotype... fucking idiots.
you are talking about n*ggers not black people huh? =)
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Just a question..honestly...Wha t do you feel is the bigger problem right now in society..Police brutality or rampant crime being committed by ghetto dwelling, dope dealing thugs who are "bustin' caps" into people because they feel dissed. Yes, this incident was a tragic screwup by the cop. In west palm beach, florida, you can't read the local paper any day without seeing some gang kid found shot..every single day. Not one person in that community blinks an eye when they kill each other constantly. But god forbid there's the occasional police shooting, then they get all upset. Ridiculous.
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Just a question..honestly...Wha t do you feel is the bigger problem right now in society..Police brutality or rampant crime being committed by ghetto dwelling, dope dealing thugs who are "bustin' caps" into people because they feel dissed. Yes, this incident was a tragic screwup by the cop. In west palm beach, florida, you can't read the local paper any day without seeing some gang kid found shot..every single day. Not one person in that community blinks an eye when they kill each other constantly. But god forbid there's the occasional police shooting, then they get all upset. Ridiculous.
Both the gangbangers and the trigger-happy cops belong in prison.
Do you agree?
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Just a question..honestly...Wha t do you feel is the bigger problem right now in society..Police brutality or rampant crime being committed by ghetto dwelling, dope dealing thugs who are "bustin' caps" into people because they feel dissed. Yes, this incident was a tragic screwup by the cop. In west palm beach, florida, you can't read the local paper any day without seeing some gang kid found shot..every single day. Not one person in that community blinks an eye when they kill each other constantly. But god forbid there's the occasional police shooting, then they get all upset. Ridiculous.
gangsters aren't putting the person on the ground with their hands handcuffed and then shooting them like the cowardly sissy ass cop did. ::)
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i'm not reading 8 pages of garbage...what did the cop do wrong?
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i'm not reading 8 pages of garbage...what did the cop do wrong?
shot an unarmed HANDCUFFED man lying on the ground for no reason like a little pusssy ass bitch.
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this is so far out of hand. this is nothing more then a bad cop with bad training fucking up.. of course he didnt shoot the guy on purpose with cameras pointed...
this whole thread is about lower class citizens trying to create an issue that doesnt exist..
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this is so far out of hand. this is nothing more then a bad cop with bad training fucking up.. of course he didnt shoot the guy on purpose with cameras pointed...
this whole thread is about lower class citizens trying to create an issue that doesnt exist..
so he didn't shoot the guy and kill him?
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i'm not reading 8 pages of garbage...what did the cop do wrong?
killed a kid in custody. laws against it, apparently.
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I agree with kh300. This guy obviously wanted to get his gun on so his training did not take over and well, the rest is history. If he didn't get fired he will certainly be working a desk.
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I agree with kh300. This guy obviously wanted to get his gun on so his training did not take over and well, the rest is history. If he didn't get fired he will certainly be working a desk.
he should be sitting on death row.
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shot an unarmed HANDCUFFED man lying on the ground for no reason like a little pusssy ass bitch.
thanks QO, was it a transit cop or real police officer?
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I agree with kh300. This guy obviously wanted to get his gun on so his training did not take over and well, the rest is history. If he didn't get fired he will certainly be working a desk.
he resigned yesterday. lawyered the fck up and will probably blame his training, etc for the incident.
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thanks QO, was it a transit cop or real police officer?
real cop.
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he resigned yesterday. lawyered the fck up and will probably blame his training, etc for the incident.
He could def get a job in Inglewood or with Blackwaters. ;D
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real cop.
Bart would suggest he was a transit cop and not a real one. transit cops dont need guns...tazers ok
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this is so far out of hand. this is nothing more then a bad cop with bad training fucking up.. of course he didnt shoot the guy on purpose with cameras pointed...
this whole thread is about lower class citizens trying to create an issue that doesnt exist..
would you say it's a non issue if it happened to one of your loved ones
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Imagine being shot in the back while laying face down with your hands cuffed behind your back not by a gang member, not by a mafia member, not by a drug dealer but by a COP the same cop that is hired to save your life.
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Imagine being shot in the back while laying face down with your hands cuffed behind your back not by a gang member, not by a mafia member, not by a drug dealer but by a COP the same cop that is hired to save your life.
exactly.the guy was subduded and a non threat at that point.so why taser him let alone shot him.plus pigs then try to confiscate all camera's.
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Both the gangbangers and the trigger-happy cops belong in prison.
Do you agree?
The cop screwed up huge and deserves whatever he gets. My point was that the ghetto community gets outraged by these occasional incidents involving police, but do not show the same outrage at their teens murdering each other on a daily basis. Where's the protests against constant gang violence?
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would you say it's a non issue if it happened to one of your loved ones
of course he wouldn't but to rednecks like "kh300" it doesn't matter because the victim was black. ::)
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of course he wouldn't but to rednecks like "kh300" it doesn't matter because the victim was black. ::)
redneck? lol.. im posting out of a manhattan highrise.. whats the name of the trailor park your at?
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redneck? lol.. im posting out of a manhattan highrise.. whats the name of the trailor park your at?
hahahahaha, another getbig trillionaire posting from the Park Ave. penthouse. ;D
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The cop screwed up huge and deserves whatever he gets. My point was that the ghetto community gets outraged by these occasional incidents involving police, but do not show the same outrage at their teens murdering each other on a daily basis. Where's the protests against constant gang violence?
the cop should face whatever charges they want to throw at him.. but to say its anything more then a fuck up, then your using this to create an issue that isnt true..
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hahahahaha, another getbig trillionaire posting from the Park Ave. penthouse. ;D
yes because everyone in ny is a trillionaire,, especially the ones that work in law enforcement. ::)
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they're both human beings asshole, funny thing is that you probably profess to be a "christian" and worship your fairy tale "savior" Jesus and you go against EVERYTHING he professed to believe, "people" like you are the reason i'd rather be around my dog than people.
man quoted for extreme truth. Only people i trust are my family and my dog..(which is my family)
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Correct. 99.9% of all cops are born cowards and will die as cowards. That's why they carry guns, tear gas, batons, radios, wear bullet-proof vest, and travel in armed convoys. Pigs are the shit of the planet... always have been, always will be. And they will kill you at the drop of a pin, if they feel threatened.
Damn hommie..Tell me how you really feel.
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Just a question..honestly...Wha t do you feel is the bigger problem right now in society..Police brutality or rampant crime being committed by ghetto dwelling, dope dealing thugs who are "bustin' caps" into people because they feel dissed. Yes, this incident was a tragic screwup by the cop. In west palm beach, florida, you can't read the local paper any day without seeing some gang kid found shot..every single day. Not one person in that community blinks an eye when they kill each other constantly. But god forbid there's the occasional police shooting, then they get all upset. Ridiculous.
I agree that gang violence is worse, but all in all, crime is down... (thank abortion for that, but that's another discussion)
However, all reactions are based upon perception... For instance... Their are more people killed from other types of vehicular accidents than drunk driving, but you take some "Mothers", have them talk about kids, and instead of it being Mothers against Fast Driving, it's Mothers against Drunk Driving, and there's public outrage.
People care less about criminals committing crimes against criminals than they do about supposed "good guys" committing crimes against criminals... Mostly because the good guys are supposed to be... Well... Good.
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suppossedly the cop thought he was using his taser
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Which appears to be the case. He was resisting being handcuffed, and they did what they would normaly do: one cop puts his knee into his back to hold him there and the other draws his taser and fires. It was not a taser however, and that's the issue. He was cuffed after he was shot, which is SOP for any dept no matter the circumstances.
The tasers were new to the dept (Dec), he was a 2 year cop, which is still rookie territory, and it's possible they had minimal training with it, and or, dealing with it on the belt, etc. Cop had had his first kid like 2 weeks before also, so his head was not where it needed to be which = ugly results.
The issue of whether cuffs, etc were all needed in the first place will have to be looked at in context to see if the entire event could have been avoided, but vids dont give context and we dont know what was said between the parties, etc.
Here in Boston, a girl was killed with a pepper gun used by a cop. Went right through her eye. It was really more due to lack of training than any thing else, and lack of training is a common problem as it costs $$$$$ and so it's often after such an even the depts orders all manner of training. I was at the Boston PD training after the pepper ball thing.
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If you resist arrest or run from the COPS you ought to have your ass shot. Saves the tax payers money anyways... only if now, the officers didnt go through litigation and get sentenced to time.. it would be a win win.
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If you resist arrest or run from the COPS you ought to have your ass shot. Saves the tax payers money anyways... only if now, the officers didnt go through litigation and get sentenced to time.. it would be a win win.
hahahaa, another redneck. ::)
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If you resist arrest or run from the COPS you ought to have your ass shot. Saves the tax payers money anyways... only if now, the officers didnt go through litigation and get sentenced to time.. it would be a win win.
so a cop should shoot people in the back.WOW!
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We've already seen your photo, thanks anyway
LOL
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eh, probably not.. im just venting. but accidents do happen. Its like 99.9999% x9 unlikely a cop would get out his gun to publicly execute a man. If so, then this must be the first time since the roman times. I'm siding with the notion that it was an accident. He looks down at his hand then at the other officers with that look like, "holy shit, wtf"!
I do think that back talk, screaming in the officers face, not following directions, ought to be punishable with an asp strike to the lower legs though.
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doesn't matter, he shouldn't have put himself in that situation. If plaxico burress didn't go to a club where he thought he might have to carry a gun, he'd be playing right now. If black people would stop being such machismo based morons, they'd be fine. Instead he was in a big fight on public transportation. I've lived in the bay area for most of my life, i've been on bart thousands of times. I've never been in a fight. you have to try pretty hard to get in a fight. he should;ve walked away, but he was probably "disrespected" and decided throwing down was the logical course of action without ever considering the future ramifications of his actions.
You sir, are an idiot.... ::)
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Here in Boston, a girl was killed with a pepper gun used by a cop. Went right through her eye. It was really more due to lack of training than any thing else, and lack of training is a common problem as it costs $$$$$ and so it's often after such an even the depts orders all manner of training. I was at the Boston PD training after the pepper ball thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Snelgrove
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Here in Boston, a girl was killed with a pepper gun used by a cop. Went right through her eye.
hahahahahaha
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hahahahahaha
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and they attacked an ABC-7 camera man, broke his camera, and beat him up. nice people.
;D ;D Now that's funny.
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hahahahahaha
Yeah, that's really funny.
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She probably hit the cop...
Its not his fault the thing he was SUPPOSED to use malfunctioned.
Its something completly different when you pull out a fucking GUN instead of a taser.
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She probably hit the cop...
Its not his fault the thing he was SUPPOSED to use malfunctioned.
Its something completly different when you pull out a fucking GUN instead of a taser.
Nice to see human life means so little to you that you find it funny when people die.
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Nice to see human life means so little to you that you find it funny when people die.
you look at the photo and see a innocent girl.
I look at the photo and Dont see a innocent girl.
she didnt maby deserve to die though.
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She probably hit the cop...
Its not his fault the thing he was SUPPOSED to use malfunctioned.
Its something completly different when you pull out a fucking GUN instead of a taser.
he shouldnt be walking around with the deadly poison pepper spray.. if she hit him he should have socked her in the eye...and she would still be alive..na im playing. Thats some fucked up shit.
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he shouldnt be walking around with the deadly poison pepper spray.. if she hit him he should have socked her in the eye...and she would still be alive..na im playing. Thats some fucked up shit.
He did what he should have and the spray fucked up.. :)
Not his fault..
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Newsflash citizens; those goons you pay to walk around in body armour & wear those uniforms... they will shoot you and kill you before your pop tarts pop out of the toaster. Then they will retire & get paid for the rest of their lives for the "stress and anguish of killing you."
Land of the free, home of the brave. ;D ;D ;D
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new angle
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1231380622/Train_Shooting_New_Angle_-_This_Cop_is_so_Screwed
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Which appears to be the case. He was resisting being handcuffed, and they did what they would normaly do: one cop puts his knee into his back to hold him there and the other draws his taser and fires. It was not a taser however, and that's the issue. He was cuffed after he was shot, which is SOP for any dept no matter the circumstances.
The tasers were new to the dept (Dec), he was a 2 year cop, which is still rookie territory, and it's possible they had minimal training with it, and or, dealing with it on the belt, etc. Cop had had his first kid like 2 weeks before also, so his head was not where it needed to be which = ugly results.
The issue of whether cuffs, etc were all needed in the first place will have to be looked at in context to see if the entire event could have been avoided, but vids dont give context and we dont know what was said between the parties, etc.
Here in Boston, a girl was killed with a pepper gun used by a cop. Went right through her eye. It was really more due to lack of training than any thing else, and lack of training is a common problem as it costs $$$$$ and so it's often after such an even the depts orders all manner of training. I was at the Boston PD training after the pepper ball thing.
Horseshit excuses!!!!!! A cop should know whether or not the weapon he's pulling out is a fucking gun or a taser. I work in medicine.........like a police officer I hold people's lives in my hands. If I accidentally make a mistake people will die. There are certain things I DO NOT DO or that I TRIPLE CHECK before I do. A cop's gun is the same thing. Lack of training is simply an excuse for fucking stupidity. It's not like the cop was wrestling around in a panic situation.
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Why didn't they call for medical attention immediately?
I'm so confused by that part... once you realized you shot someone... Why didn't you INSTANTLY get on the radio and ask for medical professionals.
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Why didn't they call for medical attention immediately?
I'm so confused by that part... once you realized you shot someone... Why didn't you INSTANTLY get on the radio and ask for medical professionals.
First you try and destroy any evidence. Every criminal knows that.
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First you try and destroy any evidence. Every criminal knows that.
bingo. they had an 'oh shit' moment and then began damage control on their own situation.
Is there ANY doubt in anyone's mind what the police report would have said, if this incident had happened in an empty alley without 20 kids taking pictures?
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new angle
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1231380622/Train_Shooting_New_Angle_-_This_Cop_is_so_Screwed
This vid makes me sick >:( >:(
WTF Was this cop thinking?
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Five days have passed since a BART police officer shot and killed an unarmed rider on a station platform, but the officer has not given a statement to investigators about what happened and the transit agency has apparently not forced him to do so.
The delay comes as witnesses emerge with their accounts of what happened, some with video footage of the incident recorded on cellular phones. The hold-up is one reason why BART officials - even in the face of public outcry - have said little publicly about the shooting, including whether they believe it was justified.
BART has not released the officer's name, but The Chronicle has learned that the officer is two-year BART police veteran Johannes Mehserle, who turned 27 on Monday and whose first child was born within a day or two of the shooting - an event that may be a contributing factor to why Mehserle has not yet explained the shooting to investigators.
Mehserle could not be reached for comment on Monday.
Officials have only said that Mehserle's gun discharged, killing 22-year-old Oscar Grant of Hayward. He had been detained and forced to lie chest down on the ground at Oakland's Fruitvale Station after 2 a.m. in the chaotic aftermath of a fight on BART on New Year's Day. BART has promised a thorough probe, and Alameda County prosecutors are investigating as well, as is standard in officer-involved shootings.
But the delay is troubling to John Burris, the Oakland attorney who is representing Grant's family and who plans to file a $25 million damage claim today against the transit agency, a legal precursor to a civil lawsuit. Burris is also calling for the officer to be charged criminally.
Burris, who has represented clients in more than a dozen officer-involved shootings, said he had never seen such a long delay before an officer makes a statement to investigators. He said it raises the possibility that the statement could be affected by the video footage and by loss of memory, among other things.
"It's pretty shocking to me," Burris said. "When you delay like this, it raises questions about the integrity of the investigation. It raises the question, 'What has BART been doing?' You want to prevent collusion. You want to prevent people from tailoring their statements to the evidence."
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First you try and destroy any evidence. Every criminal knows that.
Truth.
They were more concerned with trying to confiscate all the videos than they were with getting medical attention for the victim.
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San Francisco is a shithole is it not? I've never personally been. But people seem to either love it or hate. I can only guess the type of person that would love it.
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If any of us had shot a police officer we would have been interrogated 30 times already in a dark room without getting any sleep;
however when a cop shoots an innocent citizen in the back we wait for him/her until he/she is ready to talk. This cop is doing a great disservice to the community and those who wear the uniform.
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"PIGS GO HOME"
protesters getting rowdy yesterday
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would you say it's a non issue if it happened to one of your loved ones
My loved ones wouldn't be causing ruckus at 2am in the morning on Bart, so its a non-issue for the majority of law-abiding citizens of the USA.
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that cop was way out of order
but i have to say it fucks me off that every fucker loves to jump on the band wagon when they fuck up and stick the knife in
funny how its never the other way round when they save lives and put scum bags away
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My loved ones wouldn't be causing ruckus at 2am in the morning on Bart, so its a non-issue for the majority of law-abiding citizens of the USA.
Yeah, I'm sure you'll never have a 22 year old son who happens to get into trouble... How Naive can you get.
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that cop was way out of order
but i have to say it fucks me off that every fucker loves to jump on the band wagon when they fuck up and stick the knife in
funny how its never the other way round when they save lives and put scum bags away
I think it's because you're held to a higher standard.
1. Saving lives is your job, not taking them.
2. In a court of law, your word means more than average citizen Joe.
3. When you fuck up, your fuckups cause a lot more harm than your average fuckup.
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The cop screwed up huge and deserves whatever he gets. My point was that the ghetto community gets outraged by these occasional incidents involving police, but do not show the same outrage at their teens murdering each other on a daily basis. Where's the protests against constant gang violence?
It's ok, these same 'revolutionaries' would rather have anarchy and the local thugs doing what they want without any responsibilities for their actions.
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If you resist arrest or run from the COPS you ought to have your ass shot. Saves the tax payers money anyways... only if now, the officers didnt go through litigation and get sentenced to time.. it would be a win win.
Quoted for the truth.
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"PIGS GO HOME"
protesters getting rowdy yesterday
Fucking morons! No wonder nothing changes. Politicians, judges, etc. aren't going to take people that throw chairs at cop cars, light fires in the dumpsters, and shout "Pigs go home" seriously. People should be protesting......but when protests turn juvenile and criminal they lose their effectiveness. There is a time and a place for violent protest......but it's always a last resort.
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Yeah, I'm sure you'll never have a 22 year old son who happens to get into trouble... How Naive can you get.
Unlike you, I'll actually be a dad to my 22 year old, so he'll be able to make good judgement calls.
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I think it's because you're held to a higher standard.
1. Saving lives is your job, not taking them.
2. In a court of law, your word means more than average citizen Joe.
3. When you fuck up, your fuckups cause a lot more harm than your average fuckup.
they used to be held to a higher standard
now everyone just gives them shit
people always want zero tolerance when they complain about someone else and to be treated leniently when they are in the shit
society gets the cops it deserves
what you reap is what you sew
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I think it's because you're held to a higher standard.
1. Saving lives is your job, not taking them.
2. In a court of law, your word means more than average citizen Joe.
3. When you fuck up, your fuckups cause a lot more harm than your average fuckup.
You also forgot the human factor that's involved, which means there's a chance that people will fuck up from time to time doing their job.
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the stereotypical cop who became a cop only because he was a pathetic bitch when he was young (and still is one) and got teased and wants to have a gun and 'power' to fuck with people..
these kind of cops i fucking hate.
they are fun to argue with in public places with people watching. they cant do shit ith people watching. and you can argue with them and make them look stupid all day long with no penalty. try it sometme!
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the stereotypical cop who became a cop only because he was a pathetic bitch when he was young (and still is one) and got teased and wants to have a gun and 'power' to fuck with people..
these kind of cops i fucking hate.
they are fun to argue with in public places with people watching. they cant do shit ith people watching. and you can argue with them and make them look stupid all day long with no penalty. try it sometme!
I'm sure you do it all the time tough guy? LOL.
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Unlike you, I'll actually be a dad to my 22 year old, so he'll be able to make good judgement calls.
Another idiot who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about... Moron.
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the stereotypical cop who became a cop only because he was a pathetic bitch when he was young (and still is one) and got teased and wants to have a gun and 'power' to fuck with people..
these kind of cops i fucking hate.
they are fun to argue with in public places with people watching. they cant do shit ith people watching. and you can argue with them and make them look stupid all day long with no penalty. try it sometme!
Don't you have better things to do with your time than being a public attention whore? ;D
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Another idiot who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about... Moron.
We can already see the wonderful ideology he'll instill in his children? LOL.
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I think if they had immediately called for medical help, cleared space, and began attending to the bleeding 22-year old, they would have at least some sympathy here.
Instead, they started grabbing cameras. instantly wanting to contain and cover shit up before even addressing the bleeding kid on the floor. A human being was dying in front of them - and all they cared about was covering up the shooting.
That is some fucking pig behavior, plain and simple. Yes, the shooting was an accident. The 2nd cop stepped off the bad guy, anticipating a taser shot. Dude's kid was born the DAY BEFORE and he was probably working on 2 hours sleep, if any. he did mean to tase him.
But that doesn't excuse the first reaction being Cover up the crime before saving this kid's life.
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Don't you have better things to do with your time than being a public attention whore? ;D
hahah... yeah thats the other side to doing that..alot of attention on you and some of its negative from the people who "respect cops" (pushovers)... i dont like alot of attention... but theres no other way to 'punk' a cop..cuz without public attention hell just taze you or some bullshiht and lie about the reason why
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We can already see the wonderful ideology he'll instill in his children? LOL.
His kid will be so fucked up it's ridiculous...
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The rioters (or Tu_Holmes and RonPaulFans revolutionists) are so fucking dumb that were destroying the businesses in downtown Oakland that belonged mainly to minorities.
Yes, the US government should be in arms about this well mobilized and organized group of special guerilla force. ::)
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The rioters (or Tu_Holmes and RonPaulFans revolutionists) are so fucking dumb that were destroying the businesses in downtown Oakland that belonged mainly to minorities.
Yes, the US government should be in arms about this well mobilized and organized group of guerilla ops. ::)
This is why you're a buffoon... No one ever said they should revolt over this... You're picking 2 different discussions.
1. This is wrong.
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2. There will come a time when the nation revolts... As it should.
Didn't get much higher education did you? Reading is fundamental as well as comprehension.
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My loved ones wouldn't be causing ruckus at 2am in the morning on Bart, so its a non-issue for the majority of law-abiding citizens of the USA.
They'd been out partying and were heading home.
I'm not going to fault someone who parties until 1am (assumed) and then decides to get back home.
Does the father of a young child need to be out at that hour? No, but everyone - even we over-30 dads - needs to let off a little steam from time-to-time.
He was riding public transportation, which benefits the city. Would it be better if he'd been riding in a car - bought with illegal drug money - with some of his boys?
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They'd been out partying and were heading home.
I'm not going to fault someone who parties until 1am (assumed) and then decides to get back home.
Does the father of a young child need to be out at that hour? No, but everyone - even we over-30 dads - needs to let off a little steam from time-to-time.
He was riding public transportation, which benefits the city. Would it be better if he'd been riding in a car - bought with illegal drug money - with some of his boys?
In this case, I would argue yes, it would have been better if he rode with his boys. That way, he would not have been disrespected nor disrespect anyone else and get into a predicament which triggered this event.
Did the money Bart made from his fare equate to the cost of city damaged incurred by the legal trial and the riot?
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the cops fucked up, plain and simple.
Witness reports said 3 idiots were fighting, and this kid was nearby. All 4 got tossed. He kept arguing he wasn't with them, and that witnesses could verify this. Cops didn't want to hear it. Okay, that can happen to anyone.
Shooting him - big fvckup.
Doing a visual scan of his bleeding body, then immediately grabbing for cell phone cameras? - even bigger fvckup.
Would he have lived, with 3 cops delivering immediate medical attention? Maybe? We don't know, because they didn't bother with that. They sought to cover up the incident instead, then realized it was too big to cover up. Now they're all stalling to egt their stories straight
Those cops are pieces of shit, plain and simple. Anyone can make a mistake like the shooting - bad but it can happen - but LETTING HIM BLEED while searching fro cell phone cameras to grab - that's a far bigger problem. They CHOSE to let a man die while they covered their asses.
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the stereotypical cop who became a cop only because he was a pathetic bitch when he was young (and still is one) and got teased and wants to have a gun and 'power' to fuck with people..
these kind of cops i fucking hate.
they are fun to argue with in public places with people watching. they cant do shit ith people watching. and you can argue with them and make them look stupid all day long with no penalty. try it sometme!
its very obvious from this post
that you like it in the shitter
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This is not a racially based crime, and people need to get this through their heads. Just because it happened between people of different races does not make it racial. It is completely unfortunate, the cop fucked up, and the family should sue the fuck out of BART and get all the money they can. But everyone needs to recognize that it was completely accidental. there's no way a cop would choose that moment in time, in front of hordes of people with cameras, to committ a hate crime just to show he was in charge. If you think it was intentional, you're only fooling yourself. The people who went out last night and violently caused a riot are morons. This is a huge fuck up, nothing more and nothing less.
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Was that a white guy they shot? It's rare that anyone ever gives a fuck if the police shoot a white man.
I think I may be wrong. Was the murder victim fatally wounded suspect white or black? I ask because I think it's funny how when the police kill a black guy they are racist, and it was a bad shoot, and when they kill a white man nobody cares and it barely makes the news. Unless he is "mentally ill" then they usually give him similar treatment that they would to a black guy.
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Horseshit excuses!!!!!! A cop should know whether or not the weapon he's pulling out is a fucking gun or a taser. I work in medicine.........like a police officer I hold people's lives in my hands. If I accidentally make a mistake people will die. There are certain things I DO NOT DO or that I TRIPLE CHECK before I do. A cop's gun is the same thing. Lack of training is simply an excuse for fucking stupidity. It's not like the cop was wrestling around in a panic situation.
Are you a male nurse?
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I think I may be wrong. Was the murder victim fatally wounded suspect white or black? I ask because I think it's funny how when the police kill a black guy they are racist, and it was a bad shoot, and when they kill a white man nobody cares and it barely makes the news. Unless he is "mentally ill" then they usually give him similar treatment that they would to a black guy.
WHEN DOES IT HAPPEN?
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From what I see the cop was completely in the wrong.
But what I don't understand is everyone wants to rag on cops, corrections officers, etc. but very few understand how tough the job can be (physically & mentally). I'd like to see those who bitch about them actually do the job for a week.
come on Rim..... seriously. the guy was face down ass up tied up. what could he possible do?
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Nice to see human life means so little to you that you find it funny when people die.
but you made a comment that abortion is a good thing? interesting.
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YES I AM YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS COP NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. THIS IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. I CALLED THE NUMBER TO FIND OUT WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP. 22 YEARS OLD FATHER NOW DEAD. SHOT IN THE BACK AND HE WAS TIED HANDS AND FEET.
3 COPS BETTER BE GLAD THAT THE PEOPLE DIDNT RUSH THEM
I have ZERO respect for most cops. Bullys with badges.
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Are you a male nurse?
Yes I'm an RN. And I'm sure a slew of childish, juvenile remarks will now follow. I've pretty much heard them all.
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Yes I'm an RN. And I'm sure a slew of childish, juvenile remarks will now follow. I've pretty much heard them all.
Are you Gaylord Focker? 8)
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Are you Gaylord Focker? 8)
;D Never heard that one before. I could have gone to medical school but felt nursing was a better fit for me ::) LOL.
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ok so basically there are two kind of people in this thread, those who hate/disrepect cops for some reasons and those who dont.
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind the guys who got arested and the guy who got shot belong to the first category of posters i just mentioned.
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ok so basically there are two kind of people in this thread, those who hate/disrepect cops for some reasons and those who dont.
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind the guys who got arested and the guy who got shot belong to the first category of posters i just mentioned.
No one in this thread can say they hate cops in general and think they serve no purpose. That's juvenile. However, I think it's safe to say that cops like government, etc. are becoming increasingly corrupt and tryannical. Some cops have a very tough job....i.e. being an LA beat cop comes to mind......but being a suburban speedtrap cop? I wonder where a BART COP fits into this spectrum??????? I've also worked in state prisons and Prison Guards as well as Sheriffs in country jails don't really have it all that bad.
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Unlike you, I'll actually be a dad to my 22 year old, so he'll be able to make good judgement calls.
A coward raising a kid who in all probability will also be a coward... Great... ::)
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Are you Gaylord Focker? 8)
HAHAHAHA Keeping his options opened.
j/k MMM
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No one in this thread can say they hate cops in general and think they serve no purpose. That's juvenile. However, I think it's safe to say that cops like government, etc. are becoming increasingly corrupt and tryannical.
Yes
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Unlike you, I'll actually be a dad to my 22 year old, so he'll be able to make good judgement calls.
But you're just not that bright.
Unfortunately, the world is filled with people like you raising kids.
Fortunately, however, you have people like me here to guide you.
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Fortunately, however, you have people like me here to guide you.
8)
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this is seriously one of the most harrowing things i have ever seen. I feel so sorry for the poor men and way they died. I think cos its local it hits home
What happened was 3 IRA terrorists were killed in Gibralta. At their funerals a Loyalist terrorist started firing with guns and throwing grenades. At the funeral of some of those killed by the grenades etc off duty SAS took a wrong turn, freaked out and clearly scared paniced. Fearful off another attack they set upon him. This is very harrowing also
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Sad :(
Where do these Irish Terrorists get all their weapons?
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all over so sad to watch
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These so called non lethal weapons such as stun guns and pepper spray are killing people and will continue too. A lot (not all) of cops love to pull out the stun guns, they think its hilarious to see someone on the ground getting electrocuted. I remember a while back reading an article about a 70 year old woman getting eletrocuted by a cop with one of these things. A 22 year old boy in Ohio a couple of years ago died of brain damage do to a "stun" gun. Bottom line is cops are using these guns more and more and not just on thugs. Gonna get worse for sure.
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These so called non lethal weapons such as stun guns and pepper spray are killing people and will continue too. A lot (not all) of cops love to pull out the stun guns, they think its hilarious to see someone on the ground getting electrocuted. I remember a while back reading an article about a 70 year old woman getting eletrocuted by a cop with one of these things. A 22 year old boy in Ohio a couple of years ago died of brain damage do to a "stun" gun. Bottom line is cops are using these guns more and more and not just on thugs. Gonna get worse for sure.
If find it very comical when some piece of trash won't listen to the cops and gets zapped. not an old lady of course, but just some human rubbish.
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If find it very comical when some piece of trash won't listen to the cops and gets zapped. not an old lady of course, but just some human rubbish.
Of course. It's always the those that choose to disobey that require further discipline from the authorities.
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A coward raising a kid who in all probability will also be a coward... Great... ::)
Yes, teaching my kid to function as a law-abiding citizen is to be a coward. We can't all outlaws like you... ::)
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If find it very comical when some piece of trash won't listen to the cops and gets zapped. not an old lady of course, but just some human rubbish.
I hear ya, but see how it trickles down to using these things on everyone? Think about it, how many times does a cop get to fire his gun in all the years he is on the job? Now they can pull this thing out and and fire it and get the satisfaction of pulling a trigger.
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I hear ya, but see how it trickles down to using these things on everyone? Think about it, how many times does a cop get to fire his gun in all the years he is on the job? Now they can pull this thing out and and fire it and get the satisfaction of pulling a trigger.
Even if the cop gets off scot-free from this case, I doubt that will set a precedence for them to go trigger happy on regular citizens.
Even if they did, there's too many criminals and thugs out on the street for them to easily use as their targets first, so what's the problem?
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yes its so satisfying using a stun gun or using pepper spray.. not only is it fun to be in those situations, but the next day doing paperwork is also fun.. dealing with your authorities over having used one of them is another plus.. then you get to deal with the media.. your right, macing someone is so much fun.. i mean its not like you could loose your job over something so fun.. ::)
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Even if the cop gets off scot-free from this case, I doubt that will set a precedence for them to go trigger happy on regular citizens.
Even if they did, there's too many criminals and thugs out on the street for them to easily use as their targets first, so what's the problem?
you shut the fuck up. im getting tired of seeing your name pop up i this thread..so again. shut the fuck up...thanks in advance
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you shut the fuck up. im getting tired of seeing your name pop up i this thread..so again. shut the fuck up...thanks in advance
You wouldn't be offended by my words if you weren't associated with criminals.
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cops peppered sprayed around 6 people up my way other night.
Deserved it, were fighting, then they turned on teh cops. They opeded the slits in the Jeep and sprayed them all lol
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You wouldn't be offended by my words if you weren't associated with criminals.
Mal's a med school student who has a world class model sister, redneck. ::)
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Mal's a med school student who has a world class model sister, redneck. ::)
Isn't he also the same guy who says he's well versed with the 'streets' of LA as well?
Jay-Z is a well known celebrity with a singer wife, but does that not mean he has gun runners and drug dealers in his clique?
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Mal's a med school student who has a world class model sister, redneck. ::)
Big Mal are you actually IN med school or are you "pre med"? Big difference. Dave Palumbo was "in med school" as well. This whole I'm Pre-med/In Med school trend is akin to strippers saying "Im paying my way through college". LOL. No offense but it's hard for me to believe you are MD material, although I don't know you personally.
But this is coming from QuakerOats.......hell he would probably tell us tbombz has a doctorate in biochemistry if it fits his argument.
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he wont even go to jail.
WELCOME TO AMERICA human society
fixed
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you shut the fuck up. im getting tired of seeing your name pop up i this thread..so again. shut the fuck up...thanks in advance
You seem to be telling people to shut the fuck up left and right big mal. yet i notice you never back up your reasoning. just curious, are you colored?
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yes its so satisfying using a stun gun or using pepper spray.. not only is it fun to be in those situations, but the next day doing paperwork is also fun.. dealing with your authorities over having used one of them is another plus.. then you get to deal with the media.. your right, macing someone is so much fun.. i mean its not like you could loose your job over something so fun.. ::)
The funny thing is, some posters on here swears this will be the norm and that us law-abiding citizens will be next. ::)
I'll bet these same folks are unfamiliar with the protocols involved in using a weapon when on duty.
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Big Mal are you actually IN med school or are you "pre med"? Big difference. Dave Palumbo was "in med school" as well. This whole I'm Pre-med/In Med school trend is akin to strippers saying "Im paying my way through college". LOL. No offense but it's hard for me to believe you are MD material, although I don't know you personally.
But this is coming from QuakerOats.......hell he would probably tell us tbombz has a doctorate in biochemistry if it fits his argument.
Fool im in medical school. I wa bio premed in undergrad (Morehouse College) chief. Im in medical school now at Emory U. And i have no idea why you find it hard to beleive im in medical school. You dont know me from adam.
Isn't he also the same guy who says he's well versed with the 'streets' of LA as well?
Jay-Z is a well known celebrity with a singer wife, but does that not mean he has gun runners and drug dealers in his clique?
what does the fact that i grew up in LA have to do with me being in medical school.
You seem to be telling people to shut the fuck up left and right big mal. yet i notice you never back up your reasoning. just curious, are you colored?
Im Black/puerto rican. And i say shut the fuck up because its funny to me. I have backed up all of my arguments. This issue i feel there is no even trying to justify the actions of this cop
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Fool im in medical school. I wa bio premed in undergrad (Morehouse College) chief. Im in medical school now at Emory U. And i have no idea why you find it hard to beleive im in medical school. You dont know me from adam.
what does the fact that i grew up in LA have to do with me being in medical school.
Im Black/puerto rican. And i say shut the fuck up because its funny to me. I have backed up all of my arguments. This issue i feel there is no even trying to justify the actions of this cop
so you agree that it was an accidental shooting... justified or not?
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so you agree that it was an accidental shooting... justified or not?
its hard to say seriously. I dont want to beleive that a cop would saddle a man (no homo) and then just cold blooded shoot him like that. So accident yes. Extremely careless, wreckless, thoughtless..also yes.
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The funny thing is, some posters on here swears this will be the norm and that us law-abiding citizens will be next. ::)
I'll bet these same folks are unfamiliar with the protocols involved in using a weapon when on duty.
trust me i know plenty of officers such as myself, who have not used a weapon in dangerous situations when we should have in fear of retribution.. i know a cop who was shot a few weeks ago because he was afraid to shoot back.
these days even if your in a justified shooting, your still fucked..
meanwhile we have dumbasses who think cops use them as toys...lol..right.
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so you agree that it was an accidental shooting... justified or not?
This was cold blooded murder.
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its hard to say seriously. I dont want to beleive that a cop would saddle a man (no homo) and then just cold blooded shoot him like that. So accident yes. Extremely careless, wreckless, thoughtless..also yes.
So then can you also agree that this dude shouldn't have put himself in the position to be handcuffed by the cops at all? If he doesn't act like a typical negro and stays out of a fight, he's alive today, true?
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This was cold blooded murder.
yeah, a bad cop would choose this moment in time, in front of hordes of people with cameras on new years eve/day to committ a hate crime to show everyone who's boss. yeah, that makes a lot of sense. are you black too?
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Of course. It's always the those that choose to disobey that require further discipline from the authorities.
It's not their job to discipline anyone. The tasers were only suppose to be used in place of lethal force.
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So then can you also agree that this dude shouldn't have put himself in the position to be handcuffed by the cops at all? If he doesn't act like a typical negro and stays out of a fight, he's alive today, true?
Thats the disconnect. First off...facts= he wasnt involved in the fight and tried to convey that to the police. So he didnt put him self in any position. And also. Say im speeding or have a tail light out. If i get pulled over and a police officer accidently shoots me for whatever reason, Am i putting myself in that position? Like getting in a fight or getting arrested shouldnt run the RISK of getting shot by a police officer. One step even further. If he resisted arrest and ran..then he would be opening up a lot of possibilities, but laying on the ground hogtied by a cop...the bottom of the list possibilities has to be getting shot in the back.
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Thats the disconnect. First off...facts= he wasnt involved in the fight and tried to convey that to the police. So he didnt put him self in any position. And also. Say im speeding or have a tail light out. If i get pulled over and a police officer accidently shoots me for whatever reason, Am i putting myself in that position? Like getting in a fight or getting arrested shouldnt run the RISK of getting shot by a police officer. One step even further. If he resisted arrest and ran..then he would be opening up a lot of possibilities, but laying on the ground hogtied by a cop...the bottom of the list possibilities has to be getting shot in the back.
he was struggling enough to make those guys pull for a taser or gun wasn't he?
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yeah, a bad cop would choose this moment in time, in front of hordes of people with cameras on new years eve/day to committ a hate crime to show everyone who's boss. yeah, that makes a lot of sense. are you black too?
No, I am a white middle class guy from NYC. I know many cops in Yonkers and the Bronx NY and know most of them to be wannabe gangsters and tough guys.
The cops I know have a lawless attitude towards us "civilians" and know they can get away with almost anything and always claim that a "perp" was "resisting arrest".
I know a few cops who literally have broken their hands at least 5 times on peoples' faces.
There is no excuse or justification for this. Thank God for the camera in this case since the other cops would fabricate a story and then later "testilie" on the stand that the their "lives were on the line" and doing their job.
Go try to tell your nonsense to people who dont know any better.
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There is no way in the world this cop didn't know he had his gun in his hand!!!
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he was struggling enough to make those guys pull for a taser or gun wasn't he?
Ok Man. We will agree to disagree. Because i dont even understand why there are this many posts concerning this. The cop was 100% wrong.
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he was struggling enough to make those guys pull for a taser or gun wasn't he?
You are such a joke. That kid posed no threat whatsoever and is dead for no reason whatsoever.
Additionally, what good is having three or four cops on a scene if they cant even subdue one guy already in handcuffs?
Please, this cop hopefully will go away for a long long time. Maybe you can go visit him and hold his hand.
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i've watched 3 diff angles on the shooting - the second cop stepped off of him so the other guy could taze him.
Dude's firstborn child was born the DAY BEFORE the shooting. He must have been sleepy as hell.
He was on autopilot in a stressed situation in the middle of the night, and he drew and fired his gun instead of the tazer. He and partner stood there stunned, both expecting a taze. Obvious accident - he did intend to tase the fvck out of a pinned kid, yes. Not too nice. But he didn't want to kill him. No way a new dad straight executes someone like that.
BUT - they didn't rush to help the kid. They rushed to confiscate cameras. Maybe they would have saved him.
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i've watched 3 diff angles on the shooting - the second cop stepped off of him so the other guy could taze him.
Dude's firstborn child was born the DAY BEFORE the shooting. He must have been sleepy as hell.
He was on autopilot in a stressed situation in the middle of the night, and he drew and fired his gun instead of the tazer. He and partner stood there stunned, both expecting a taze. Obvious accident - he did intend to tase the fvck out of a pinned kid, yes. Not too nice. But he didn't want to kill him. No way a new dad straight executes someone like that.
BUT - they didn't rush to help the kid. They rushed to confiscate cameras. Maybe they would have saved him.
Autopilot for what?
The guy was on the ground in handcuffs already?
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i've watched 3 diff angles on the shooting - the second cop stepped off of him so the other guy could taze him.
Dude's firstborn child was born the DAY BEFORE the shooting. He must have been sleepy as hell.
He was on autopilot in a stressed situation in the middle of the night, and he drew and fired his gun instead of the tazer. He and partner stood there stunned, both expecting a taze. Obvious accident - he did intend to tase the fvck out of a pinned kid, yes. Not too nice. But he didn't want to kill him. No way a new dad straight executes someone like that.
BUT - they didn't rush to help the kid. They rushed to confiscate cameras. Maybe they would have saved him.
When the second cop stepped off him to be tased then I would assume he or any of the other cops would have noticed he had a "GUN" in his hand. These guys knew that this was a fatal shot and they still put cuffs on this kid. None of them tried in any way to help save his life.
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When the second cop stepped off him to be tased then I would assume he or any of the other cops would have noticed he had a "GUN" in his hand. These guys knew that this was a fatal shot and they still put cuffs on this kid. None of them tried in any way to help save his life.
The present day police state we live in is horrible. Cops, DA's, et al, get away with anything and condition the unsuspecting public to believe almost any lie they tell and accept any abuse they commit.
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The present day police state we live in is horrible. Cops, DA's, et al, get away with anything and condition the unsuspecting public to believe almost any lie they tell and accept any abuse they commit.
Well said, also There is no way in the world this cop didn't know he had his gun in his hand!!!
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Well said, also There is no way in the world this cop didn't know he had his gun in his hand!!!
so what your saying is this guy shot him on purpose?
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240 youre a gun guy
you know the difference in a 9mm beretta and a glock 45 right...there is a pretty difference right...there is esp a difference from a tazer gun and a 9mm beretta
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Fool im in medical school. I wa bio premed in undergrad (Morehouse College) chief. Im in medical school now at Emory U. And i have no idea why you find it hard to beleive im in medical school. You dont know me from adam.
what does the fact that i grew up in LA have to do with me being in medical school.
Im Black/puerto rican. And i say shut the fuck up because its funny to me. I have backed up all of my arguments. This issue i feel there is no even trying to justify the actions of this cop
I find it surprising that someone of your intellect, that is judging by your posts, has the discipline, work ethic, sophistication, people skills, etc. to be a doctor. But then again I'm sure you've gotten a shit ton of free money from the government being black. And you're right I only know you from your posts and time spent on here.
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so what your saying is this guy shot him on purpose?
You have to ask?
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I find it surprising that someone of your intellect, that is judging by your posts, has the discipline, work ethic, sophistication, people skills, etc. to be a doctor. But then again I'm sure you've gotten a shit ton of free money from the government being black. And you're right I only know you from your posts and time spent on here.
Hahaha there it is. Let me tell you. I went to a private school on a football scholarship. Never got government assistance in life. And i dont have to talk genetics or bio chem or hema on this board to show how smart i am. My body alone is a testament to my work ethic and discipline. Let alone my admission to emory or the fact i raised the money for my kaplan mcat prep my self. You dont know shit about me or my family chief.
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You have to ask?
do you really think he was going to shoot him with all those people and the cameras there? also the biggest factor which were the other cops..
trust me on this not all cops have each others backs.. in fact they are usually against each other. they are all competing for the same thing -which is a promotion. and trust me, your actions get reported very quickly..
i would love to hand you a gun and send you out to the ghetto and watch you scared shitless shooting at shadows. yes i know, cops are supposed to be better and receive proper training, but they are still humans,, and humans fuck up..
this officer will not wear a badge ever again. his mistake was the biggest one you can make, which is to take another life. im sure he knows that and he will pay the price not just legally but emotionally as well. unfortunately we have people trying to take advantage of this terrible situation to promote their own agenda. thats even sadder.
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do you really think he was going to shoot him with all those people and the cameras there? also the biggest factor which were the other cops..
trust me on this not all cops have each others backs.. in fact they are usually against each other. they are all competing for the same thing -which is a promotion. and trust me, your actions get reported very quickly..
i would love to hand you a gun and send you out to the ghetto and watch you scared shitless shooting at shadows. yes i know, cops are supposed to be better and receive proper training, but they are still humans,, and humans fuck up..
this officer will not wear a badge ever again. his mistake was the biggest one you can make, which is to take another life. im sure he knows that and he will pay the price not just legally but emotionally as well. unfortunately we have people trying to take advantage of this terrible situation to promote their own agenda. thats even sadder.
Well, lets see, he will get away with it and he did do it in front of the whole country. He will undoubtedly do not jail time for what he did.
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240 youre a gun guy
you know the difference in a 9mm beretta and a glock 45 right...there is a pretty difference right...there is esp a difference from a tazer gun and a 9mm beretta
this is what i carry
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this is what i carry
WTF...IT HAS YELLOW...A LOT
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240 youre a gun guy
you know the difference in a 9mm beretta and a glock 45 right...there is a pretty difference right...there is esp a difference from a tazer gun and a 9mm beretta
oh i know... he was only a 2 year vet. sleep deprived. probably running on a shitload of vivarin and whatever else. I think they said tazer and he just grabbed for his hip and just did what cops train to do 10,000 times - draw gun without thinking.
He fired the second he drew. maybe didn't have time to consdier the weight difference.
I'm not defending the schmuck. I hope he goes to prison and is sodomized daily :) he was irresponsible and ended a life. I'm just saying I do believe it was an accident, done by a drowsy inexperienced cop in a loud ass scary situation. no way you intentionally ice a dude with a 2-day old at home.
Who knows that... people are fcked up. maybe labor left his newves a little frazzled and he thought capping a guy would help him to settle down :)
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this is what i carry
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=256870.0;attach=297980;image)
That handle is a lot like a glock. Weight probably isn't the same. But in a shit storm of stress, I could see that.
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I'm not defending the schmuck. I hope he goes to prison and is sodomized daily :)
Me too, but I reeeeeeelly wonder if this guy didn't know. The weight distribution is totally different not to mention when you have gun in your own line of site and not to be able to see the difference in color? (assuming it was). Also, there was no need for a quick draw to defend his life so this guy was not in any kind of kill or be killed defense mode. This kid was on the ground face first. A good lawyer will crush this guy on the stand, but in the end he will walk guarenteed.
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Me too, but I reeeeeeelly wonder if this guy didn't know. The weight distribution is totally different not to mention when you have gun in your own line of site and not to be able to see the difference in color? (assuming it was). Also, there was no need for a quick draw to defend his life so this guy was not in any kind of kill or be killed defense mode. This kid was on the ground face first. A good lawyer will crush this guy on the stand, but in the end he will walk guarenteed.
That is the issue. This guy was not a threat by any reasonable standard. Why evenn taser the guy?????
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Go watch the video again.
This is cold blooded murder.
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Fool im in medical school. I wa bio premed in undergrad (Morehouse College) chief. Im in medical school now at Emory U. And i have no idea why you find it hard to beleive im in medical school. You dont know me from adam.
what does the fact that i grew up in LA have to do with me being in medical school.
Im Black/puerto rican. And i say shut the fuck up because its funny to me. I have backed up all of my arguments. This issue i feel there is no even trying to justify the actions of this cop
Obivously, the point I was making is that someone who is deemed successful can still have criminal ties.
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do you really think he was going to shoot him with all those people and the cameras there? also the biggest factor which were the other cops..
trust me on this not all cops have each others backs.. in fact they are usually against each other. they are all competing for the same thing -which is a promotion. and trust me, your actions get reported very quickly..
i would love to hand you a gun and send you out to the ghetto and watch you scared shitless shooting at shadows. yes i know, cops are supposed to be better and receive proper training, but they are still humans,, and humans fuck up..
this officer will not wear a badge ever again. his mistake was the biggest one you can make, which is to take another life. im sure he knows that and he will pay the price not just legally but emotionally as well. unfortunately we have people trying to take advantage of this terrible situation to promote their own agenda. thats even sadder.
I have to agree with you here. Most of these keyboard warriors have never been/lived to the ghetto nor played the role of a law enforcement officer, so they don't understand the the true threat these thugs present to the safety of everyday citizens.
Also, I wish people would not fluff the victim to be some innocent guy who did not cause ruckus. He's a repeat drug and gun offender who recently got out of jail.
Yeah, what a role model to his kids. He's truly trying to raise them well from the penitentiary.
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Where in the video did he have a gun or resist arrest??????
Also, I know cops in my hood who are far more violent than the criminals they claim to protect the citizens from.
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Where in the video did he have a gun or resist arrest??????
Also, I know cops in my hood who are far more violent than the criminals they claim to protect the citizens from.
Sure you do.... ::)
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Hahaha there it is. Let me tell you. I went to a private school on a football scholarship. Never got government assistance in life. And i dont have to talk genetics or bio chem or hema on this board to show how smart i am. My body alone is a testament to my work ethic and discipline. Let alone my admission to emory or the fact i raised the money for my kaplan mcat prep my self. You dont know shit about me or my family chief.
LOL Of course~ Last time I saw your pic you looked like an average black guy with a big head and big lips.
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Sure you do.... ::)
Ok jackboot, go on youtube and look up Yonkers PD & Wayne Simoes.
I'm sure you are perfectly fine with cops brutalizing people.
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Ok jackboot, go on youtube and look up Yonkers PD & Wayne Simoes.
I'm sure you are perfectly fine with cops brutalizing people.
"dkf" is the typical redneck, if it's black or brown people the cops are beating up on he's fine with it but if it's a rich white conservative he's against it, he said before he thinks a black guy with a "criminal record" life isn't worth as much as someone else. ::)
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"dkf" is the typical redneck, if it's black or brown people the cops are beating up on he's fine with it but if it's a rich white conservative he's against it, he said before he thinks a black guy with a "criminal record" life isn't worth as much as someone else. ::)
I consider myself a very conservative guy, more libertarian though. I have zero tolerance for the police state we have and the out of control cops who think we answer to them.
We the taxpayer pay their salary and they answer to the public.
Black or white, we have a constitution and every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Many of these cops need to take a class or two in constitutional law.
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Ok jackboot, go on youtube and look up Yonkers PD & Wayne Simoes.
I'm sure you are perfectly fine with cops brutalizing people.
oh please wayne put a girl down to put her under arrest for obstruction.. ya it was rough and not deserved but certainly not the 20 million or whatever that bitch wants...
btw i work out at powerhouse at cross county..
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white guy?
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oh please wayne put a girl down to put her under arrest for obstruction.. ya it was rough and not deserved but certainly not the 20 million or whatever that bitch wants...
btw i work out at powerhouse at cross county..
Simoes is going to jail BTW. The tape speaks for itself.
I wont even start naming other names but you and I both know that Yonkers PD has a HUGE police brutality problem. I grew up with plenty of these clowns and know first hand some of the nonsense that goes on in YPD.
BTW - I used to work out over there by like NYSC in eastchester or Flex Appeal better.
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LOL Of course~ Last time I saw your pic you looked like an average black guy with a big head and big lips.
LOL. For someone who was bitching about the anti-Muslim threads on the political board, you sure are being a racist little hypocrite here. Not surprising. Sounds like you're bitter about a black man who is on track to be more successful than you. ::)
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The present day police state we live in is horrible. Cops, DA's, et al, get away with anything and condition the unsuspecting public to believe almost any lie they tell and accept any abuse they commit.
I can see you saying this in NYC but most other places, this is not the case. As kh300 said, most coppers now are afraid to even use their batons, let alone weapons, for fear of law suits. Most police do not get off without impunity, you just hear about the incident and then never look again after the initial outrage.
No matter how you look at it, this guy fcuked up. He either killed an innocent man in cold blood (doubtful) or was stupid and didn't use his training. Even if he meant to pull his weapon and point it at the suspect, he obviously does not practice proper trigger safety.
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I can see you saying this in NYC but most other places, this is not the case. As kh300 said, most coppers now are afraid to even use their batons, let alone weapons, for fear of law suits. Most police do not get off without impunity, you just hear about the incident and then never look again after the initial outrage.
No matter how you look at it, this guy fcuked up. He either killed an innocent man in cold blood (doubtful) or was stupid and didn't use his training. Even if he meant to pull his weapon and point it at the suspect, he obviously does not practice proper trigger safety.
Watch the video again. To me, it did not even seem that the guy deserved to be tasered as he was not resisting arrest. They had three cops over this guy, your telling me they could not subdue him even after he was in cuffs????
Come on now.
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Simoes is going to jail BTW. The tape speaks for itself.
I wont even start naming other names but you and I both know that Yonkers PD has a HUGE police brutality problem. I grew up with plenty of these clowns and know first hand some of the nonsense that goes on in YPD.
BTW - I used to work out over there by like NYSC in eastchester or Flex Appeal better.
noooo.. powerhouse is the metroflex of ny. do whatever you want and nobody gives a fuck.. plus nypd gets life membership ;D
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noooo.. powerhouse is the metroflex of ny. do whatever you want and nobody gives a fuck.. plus nypd gets life membership ;D
Are you denying YPD is sued left and right for police brutality????
Powerhouse has a lot of cafones in there.
Powerhouse on Bronxdale Ave in Morris Park is/was a lot better.
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Check out what your boy Wayne did to this woman:
http://gothamist.com/2008/06/28/feds_accuse_yonkers_cop_of_police_b.php
Fed Justice Department investigating YPD for excessive brutality complaints
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/yonkers-ny/TE2S51HTERI410U07
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/justice.department.investigating.2.246888.html
Either you are a cop yourself or related to a cop because the above stories of the YPD speak for themselves.
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Are you denying YPD is sued left and right for police brutality????
Powerhouse has a lot of cafones in there.
Powerhouse on Bronxdale Ave in Morris Park is/was a lot better.
sued doesnt mean shit.. i was sued by a wanted felon for shooting him after he shot me and another guy first..
anyone can sue but it doesnt mean you did anything wrong nor will it last more then 5 seconds on the judges table.
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Check out what your boy Wayne did to this woman:
http://gothamist.com/2008/06/28/feds_accuse_yonkers_cop_of_police_b.php
Fed Justice Department investigating YPD for excessive brutality complaints
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/yonkers-ny/TE2S51HTERI410U07
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/justice.department.investigating.2.246888.html
Either you are a cop yourself or related to a cop because the above stories of the YPD speak for themselves.
i dont give a shit to be honest. i worked with cops who were getting bribed and dealing drugs.. everyone knows there are bad cops just like any profession. whats your point?
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interseting note from that article
Yonkers has had 4,000 arrests this year with a .006% complaint rate.
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I think if they had immediately called for medical help, cleared space, and began attending to the bleeding 22-year old, they would have at least some sympathy here.
Instead, they started grabbing cameras. instantly wanting to contain and cover shit up before even addressing the bleeding kid on the floor. A human being was dying in front of them - and all they cared about was covering up the shooting.
That is some fucking pig behavior, plain and simple. Yes, the shooting was an accident. The 2nd cop stepped off the bad guy, anticipating a taser shot. Dude's kid was born the DAY BEFORE and he was probably working on 2 hours sleep, if any. he did mean to tase him.
But that doesn't excuse the first reaction being Cover up the crime before saving this kid's life.
Spot on mate, I think that is the thing that is the most disturbing. You fucked up no changing that, but FFS there is a kid dying in front of you.......do the right thing and try save him above all else, isn't that what you would want to happen if it was your son??????? :-\.
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Spot on mate, I think that is the thing that is the most disturbing. You fucked up no changing that, but FFS there is a kid dying in front of you.......do the right thing and try save him above all else, isn't that what you would want to happen if it was your son??????? :-\.
you got that right. They spent 30-60 seconds grabbing phones and yelling at people while the blood and life just pumped outta that kid. You didn't see 3 cops on the floor trying to save him. You saw 3 guys trying to destory evidence.
Inexcusable.
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you got that right. They spent 30-60 seconds grabbing phones and yelling at people while the blood and life just pumped outta that kid. You didn't see 3 cops on the floor trying to save him. You saw 3 guys trying to destory evidence.
Inexcusable.
That's a good point. The cops who tried to destroy evidence should be fired and criminally charged as well, not just the cop who shot the kid. If I hadn't commited any crime, and an armed cop tried to take my cell phone to cover his ass, as far as I'm concerned, he should be charged with armed robbery.
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Watch the video again. To me, it did not even seem that the guy deserved to be tasered as he was not resisting arrest. They had three cops over this guy, your telling me they could not subdue him even after he was in cuffs????
Come on now.
You'd be surprised what police will do to keep from getting sued. They will pepper spray or taze rather use a baton although I believe the baton to be a great way to end a suspect's movement. The same goes for the choke hold, which you cannot use unless it is life or death. They have to taze because it became unethical to choke (and stop) a suspect and became to costly to use the baton (after Rodney King). If he was resisting, tasing is perfectly fine.
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This just in from CNN; The pigs that killed that guy are still walking free AND getting paid. ;D ;D ;D ;D LMAO.
Land of the free, home of the brave. ;D
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This just in from CNN; The pigs that killed that guy are still walking free AND getting paid. ;D ;D ;D ;D LMAO.
Land of the free, home of the brave. ;D
ONE officer fired his weapon. The others will likely sit on a desk until the smoke clears but only one is liable and wrong here.
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LOL. For someone who was bitching about the anti-Muslim threads on the political board, you sure are being a racist little hypocrite here. Not surprising. Sounds like you're bitter about a black man who is on track to be more successful than you. ::)
LOL I wasn't bitching about the anti-muslim threads. I was bitching about how what happens in the middle east is none of our fucking business. And that Americans have been brainwashed to believe Muslims are dangerous and most are terrorists. As a middle class whiteboy you damn right I'm pissed about minorities getting all this special treatment at the university level. Indians, asians, blacks, hispanics......fuck em they can make their way through school like everyone else. This isn't the 1950's anymore. They have as much or more opportunity in this country as anyone else.
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ONE officer fired his weapon. The others will likely sit on a desk until the smoke clears but only one is liable and wrong here.
The others tried to confisate videos and failed to help a dying man. Nothing wrong? ;D
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ONE officer fired his weapon. The others will likely sit on a desk until the smoke clears but only one is liable and wrong here.
Allegedly other officers tried to cover this up by confiscating peoples cameras and cell phones.
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The others tried to confisate videos and failed to help a dying man. Nothing wrong? ;D
Could be collusion, could be trying to confiscate evidence. You think the average cop knows how to help a gun shot victim? If they tried to cover it up then they need to be fired too.
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Could be collusion, could be trying to confiscate evidence. You think the average cop knows how to help a gun shot victim? If they tried to cover it up then they need to be fired too.
they said something to each other right after the shot... then the cops fanned out in 3 or 4 directions and started demanding phones... while the kid with a bullet in his back was taking his last breaths.
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how do we know they didnt call for an ambulance over the radio? not much you can do once someone is shot. it looked like they tried to elevate him but he wasnt looking for help..
i love the message at the end.. what a piece of shit.. ''dont harm me''.. well learn to follow instructions and none of this would have happend..
take a lesson from this. just let them put the cuffs on you and let a judge deal with it. i sure as hell wouldnt put anyone -even the best cop in the world -in a position where force needs to be used.. and if you say he wasnt resisting your fucking lying..
a situation like that needs to be resolved fast. ask any bouncer, once a fight breaks out you get the people in the fight out as soon as possible or else a riot can break out. the longer you wrestle with someone the higher you elevate the risks.
would a taze be justified -yes.. its as simple as he got into fight or flight mode and fucked up big time.
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I was at an event where 6 officers approached a man who did not want to leave. Instead of rushing him, fighting him or using their batons...the officers tazed the man until he stop resisting (he was holding onto a fence). Why risk injury to oneself or serious injury to the suspect when the tazer does the work for you?
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how do we know they didnt call for an ambulance over the radio? not much you can do once someone is shot. it looked like they tried to elevate him but he wasnt looking for help..
i love the message at the end.. what a piece of shit.. ''dont harm me''.. well learn to follow instructions and none of this would have happend..
take a lesson from this. just let them put the cuffs on you and let a judge deal with it. i sure as hell wouldnt put anyone -even the best cop in the world -in a position where force needs to be used.. and if you say he wasnt resisting your fucking lying..
a situation like that needs to be resolved fast. ask any bouncer, once a fight breaks out you get the people in the fight out as soon as possible or else a riot can break out. the longer you wrestle with someone the higher you elevate the risks.
would a taze be justified -yes.. its as simple as he got into fight or flight mode and fucked up big time.
;D ;D "Just get onboard the train Herr Goldstein, it's for your own good."
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Why is this "cop" not under arrest? His guilt or innocence can be determined at trial, but I don't get why he's still walking the streets?
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Why is this "cop" not under arrest? His guilt or innocence can be determined at trial, but I don't get why he's still walking the streets?
Because he is a cop
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Why is this "cop" not under arrest? His guilt or innocence can be determined at trial, but I don't get why he's still walking the streets?
Internal Affairs review, board of rights and then criminal proceedings if deemed necessary. Everything happens on the LE side first.
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You guys want to get pissed off, go check out the forums on
www.Ratemycop.com
Story after story about fucked up cops...The kicker is there are cops as mods on the thing...I would becareful however, because I personally believe its yet another site run by the FBI and is a way to look for people who are against the man...
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Why is this "cop" not under arrest? His guilt or innocence can be determined at trial, but I don't get why he's still walking the streets?
Goat, if I happened to pin that kid down and glock his ass in a crowded subway, I'd be in a jail cell right now.
You wanna know something funny? This cop hasn't even given a statement yet!
Five days, and there is outrage they haven't questioned him yet. He resigned the next day to avoid the automatic BART incident interview.
He quit, went home, and has not been questioned yet. How nice is that? How many of us would enjoy that luxury?
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Internal Affairs review, board of rights and then criminal proceedings if deemed necessary. Everything happens on the LE side first.
Look, this isn't a case where self-defense is even a possibility... he either commited murder or manslaughter (manslaughter if they make that whole "mistook a gun for a tazer" b/s fly). Either one is a felony, so he needs to be in cuffs. He'll get a trial just like anyone else, but there's enough evidence this should be beyond the whole "internal review" bullshit.
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Why is this "cop" not under arrest? His guilt or innocence can be determined at trial, but I don't get why he's still walking the streets?
Believe me, I understand this sentiment, but sadly, I'm still a believer in due process. He was an on-duty officer at the time of the killing, so until the DA determines that charges are to be filed, he's on paid administrative leave from the department (although he has since resigned).
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Look, this isn't a case where self-defense is even a possibility... he either commited murder or manslaughter (manslaughter if they make that whole "mistook a gun for a tazer" b/s fly). Either one is a felony, so he needs to be in cuffs. He'll get a trial just like anyone else, but there's enough evidence this should be beyond the whole "internal review" bullshit.
Yeah but the department needs to show that they investigated everyone there, including him; it's SOP. He'll go down otherwise you will see Oakland in ruins.
In CA I think manslaughter is a max of four years. He'd be isolated if he goes to prison.
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Yeah but the department needs to show that they investigated everyone there, including him; it's SOP. He'll go down otherwise you will see Oakland in ruins.
In CA I think manslaughter is a max of four years. He'd be isolated if he goes to prison.
Love the avatar Cap nothin tastes better than a dip of Cope except for maybe freshly washed pussy
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"dkf" is the typical redneck, if it's black or brown people the cops are beating up on he's fine with it but if it's a rich white conservative he's against it, he said before he thinks a black guy with a "criminal record" life isn't worth as much as someone else. ::)
You seem to fit the bill of what you're accusing me of being.
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I have more of a legitimate reason to hate cops than anyone else on here, of that I am 99% sure.
Many cops are true pieces of shit, especially those who work in suburban low crime areas. There are also some that are man of extreme integrity. generally, I think they run the spectrum like most other professions, however they probably attract slightly more of the power hungry cowards who want to walk around in their uniform and gun and be able to give people shit. the main issue is that they can easily fuck up an innocent persons life through malice, much more than your average citizen because they have the power to do so. that is why many in the country do not like them.
they are a necessary evil in society. as much as i hate gruops like the ACLU, they do keep the pressure on racist or power abusing cops.
As for this situation, I understand the anger among the poor areas. They dont understand why this guy isnt in jail. But he obviously did not kill the guy on purpose, what idiot what do that in front of 1000s of people (at least 100s) especially when all of those present were already watching and yelling at them. he will go to jail after due process, or he should, and if he doesnt expect more outrage bordering on riots. tahts understandable. but i dont see how this fits into the hypothesis that the average citizens have no power at all. this guy will be held accountable.
if this was nazi germany, as some no doubt highly educated poster compared the current american police state to, this situation would never happen as thugs like this would never dare resist the police. they know they would get capped and that would be that. any protestors would be violently suppressed...if anyone protested at all.
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I have more of a legitimate reason to hate cops than anyone else on here, of that I am 99% sure.
the old 'plunger up the ass' treatment?
Dude as soon as you let it out, the pain will stop. We're all friends here.
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hahaha
its been a long day and Im gonna watch the end of this game...
if this thread is still going tomorrow i will say what happened to me
long story short got charged with Felony Assault on a Police Officer, min 6 month sentence if convicted, when i never touched the police officer. obviously without what led up to it and the exact situation, not much of a story.
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Ok jackboot, go on youtube and look up Yonkers PD & Wayne Simoes.
I'm sure you are perfectly fine with cops brutalizing people.
In those videos you referred to, it doesn't show the whole altercation, so it can be skewed to present the agenda of the video recorder.
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LOL I wasn't bitching about the anti-muslim threads. I was bitching about how what happens in the middle east is none of our fucking business. And that Americans have been brainwashed to believe Muslims are dangerous and most are terrorists. As a middle class whiteboy you damn right I'm pissed about minorities getting all this special treatment at the university level. Indians, asians, blacks, hispanics......fuck em they can make their way through school like everyone else. This isn't the 1950's anymore. They have as much or more opportunity in this country as anyone else.
I don't believe Indians and Asians are getting special treatment at the university level. Southeast Asians, perhaps, but that's it.
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I don't believe Indians and Asians are getting special treatment at the university level. Southeast Asians, perhaps, but that's it.
You bet your ass they do. They get shit ton of government money to attend American universities. Most univerisities HAVE to meet their quotas for government money every year. You think all the whites and blacks are getting all the Pell grants and shit? You're nutz!
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You bet your ass they do. They get shit ton of government money to attend American universities. Most univerisities HAVE to meet their quotas for government money every year. You think all the whites and blacks are getting all the Pell grants and shit? You're nutz!
If Blacks and Whites are getting it as well, then what's the problem?
They pay taxes to the government as well.
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I have more of a legitimate reason to hate cops than anyone else on here, of that I am 99% sure.
Many cops are true pieces of shit, especially those who work in suburban low crime areas. There are also some that are man of extreme integrity. generally, I think they run the spectrum like most other professions, however they probably attract slightly more of the power hungry cowards who want to walk around in their uniform and gun and be able to give people shit. the main issue is that they can easily fuck up an innocent persons life through malice, much more than your average citizen because they have the power to do so. that is why many in the country do not like them.
they are a necessary evil in society. as much as i hate gruops like the ACLU, they do keep the pressure on racist or power abusing cops.
As for this situation, I understand the anger among the poor areas. They dont understand why this guy isnt in jail. But he obviously did not kill the guy on purpose, what idiot what do that in front of 1000s of people (at least 100s) especially when all of those present were already watching and yelling at them. he will go to jail after due process, or he should, and if he doesnt expect more outrage bordering on riots. tahts understandable. but i dont see how this fits into the hypothesis that the average citizens have no power at all. this guy will be held accountable.
if this was nazi germany, as some no doubt highly educated poster compared the current american police state to, this situation would never happen as thugs like this would never dare resist the police. they know they would get capped and that would be that. any protestors would be violently suppressed...if anyone protested at all.
If the cops fuck you over once, shame on them...If they fuck you over twice, shame on you...Everyone who doesn't give a rats ass about materialism, needs to take themselves out of the system...Including not even having a bank account...But becareful of militia's because every single on of them in the states and beyond are infultrated by the CIA...
YOu need to become your own silent militia and be ready for the next years to come...
1. Get yourself under the bodyweight of 210 pounds and be able to run 5 miles at a time
2. Get yourself some cold weather gear/back pack/sleeping bag that is rated for extreme cold weather...
3. Cut most ties...They will only slow you down
4. Forget about legal guns/ammo...Learn all about the rape choke...
5. Be ready to go deep under ground and when you get there, trust no one because chances are they to will be CIA...
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If the cops fuck you over once, shame on them...If they fuck you over twice, shame on you...Everyone who doesn't give a rats ass about materialism, needs to take themselves out of the system...Including not even having a bank account...But becareful of militia's because every single on of them in the states and beyond are infultrated by the CIA...
YOu need to become your own silent militia and be ready for the next years to come...
1. Get yourself under the bodyweight of 210 pounds and be able to run 5 miles at a time
2. Get yourself some cold weather gear/back pack/sleeping bag that is rated for extreme cold weather...
3. Cut most ties...They will only slow you down
4. Forget about legal guns/ammo...Learn all about the rape choke...
5. Be ready to go deep under ground and when you get there, trust no one because chances are they to will be CIA...
Ron is CIA.
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Ron is CIA.
I would say no but he for sure is connected with them whether he knows it or not...But i'm guessing the latter... ;)
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If Blacks and Whites are getting it as well, then what's the problem?
They pay taxes to the government as well.
Middle class white kids whose parents make just enough to disqualify their kids from receiving any free money from the government yet obvioulsy make nowhere near enough to fund a college education don't get shit. They have to take out loans and most of those loans the fucking government won't even subsidize. Meanwhile, Larell from Hotlanta whose mom is on welfare can get a free ride even if his grades are shit and barely makes it through high school. Like I said the California government was giving hispanics, ILLEGALS I MIGHT ADD, In-state tuition to colleges here in California. There are a shit ton of minority scholarships as well. Just for the color of your skin.
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The people who witnessed it had no clue that they were going to see a man murdered right before their eyes. But once they did, those who were recording the incident knew they had a civic responsibility to ensure that these horrific images were made available to the world.
We watch because we don't want to believe something like this can actually happen in the greatest nation on earth. When a young, unarmed citizen can be shot in the back by the very people sworn to PROTECT us, there's a serious problem here that must be addressed.
very well put,i was thinking the exact same thing.thats a scary thought,your counting on protection from the police and instead you gotta worry about getting shot by them
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What does BART stand for?
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Mal's a med school student who has a world class model sister, redneck. ::)
Yet you have chucked plenty of racial abuse at him in the past "redneck" ::)
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very well put,i was thinking the exact same thing.thats a scary thought,your counting on protection from the police and instead you gotta worry about getting shot by them
Only if you are doing somthing you are not meant to be doing.
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What does BART stand for?
Bay Area Rapid Transit
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Bay Area Rapid Transit
Thankyou :)
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Only if you are doing somthing you are not meant to be doing.
yea like leaving your house.
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Middle class white kids whose parents make just enough to disqualify their kids from receiving any free money from the government yet obvioulsy make nowhere near enough to fund a college education don't get shit. They have to take out loans and most of those loans the fucking government won't even subsidize. Meanwhile, Larell from Hotlanta whose mom is on welfare can get a free ride even if his grades are shit and barely makes it through high school. Like I said the California government was giving hispanics, ILLEGALS I MIGHT ADD, In-state tuition to colleges here in California. There are a shit ton of minority scholarships as well. Just for the color of your skin.
Damn right. Lower middle class white kids get screwed royally in this country.
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very well put,i was thinking the exact same thing.thats a scary thought,your counting on protection from the police and instead you gotta worry about getting shot by them
Well if these bullys with badges spent a little more actual time taking Gracie BJJ, Firearms safety classes, Japanese JJ, or other forms of self defense, they would not have to resort to this stuff.
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Well if these bullys with badges spent a little more actual time taking Gracie BJJ, Firearms safety classes, Japanese JJ, or other forms of self defense, they would not have to resort to this stuff.
Jui Jitsu consistes of chokes and throws if I am not mistaken...most agencies do not allow you to choke people and beat them up. I guarantee if a cop did a rear naked choke on you, you would sue. Most use tazers because they are probably the least likely to incur a law suit. If you'd rather be hit with a baton, let your local LE agency know to change their policy.
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Jui Jitsu consistes of chokes and throws if I am not mistaken...most agencies do not allow you to choke people and beat them up. I guarantee if a cop did a rear naked choke on you, you would sue. Most use tazers because they are probably the least likely to incur a law suit. If you'd rather be hit with a baton, let your local LE agency know to change their policy.
I posted earlier about my local PD. Check it out. They are under Fed Investigation for excessive police brutality complaints.
Did you even watch the video??? That kid was ZERO threat and in cuffs and could not move.
Tasering that kid at that point would have cruel as well.
Cops are supposed to protect and serve, not act as executioners and self appointed judges & juries.
If they cant hack their jobs, they should resign and let someone else do the job.
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the scum didnt resist, but he sure terrorized the passengers on BART until the cops nailed his ass. no great loss.
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the scum didnt resist, but he sure terrorized the passengers on BART until the cops nailed his ass. no great loss.
He was not even involved in the fight. If you bothered to read the article you would have understood that.
I could care less about his history. The bottom line is that what happened to that kid could happen to anyone if you allow the police the power and authority to do whatever they want without proper supervision, background checks, training, and oversight.
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the scum didnt resist, but he sure terrorized the passengers on BART until the cops nailed his ass. no great loss.
another sympathetic soul ::) aren't gay guys supposed to be a little more sensitive?
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He was not even involved in the fight. If you bothered to read the article you would have understood that.
I could care less about his history. The bottom line is that what happened to that kid could happen to anyone if you allow the police the power and authority to do whatever they want without proper supervision, background checks, training, and oversight.
and that is why his parents are sueing for 25,000,000 dollars
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another sympathetic soul ::) aren't gay guys supposed to be a little more sensitive?
hun, alexander the great and many warriors have sucked dick or fucked male ass lol
u need to get out more mary :)
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hun, alexander the great and many warriors have sucked dick or fucked male ass lol
u need to get out more mary :)
hahahahaha, sounds like we've got another BayGBM on board folks, the "gay conspiracy theorist" everyone is a closet case, Abe Lincoln, George Washington, Martin Luther King, Fidel Castro, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Joe Namath, Teddy Roosevelt, etc., all succked dick and took it up the butt according to these annoying ass clowns. :D
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The bottom line is that what happened to that kid could happen to anyone
Really? It's that bad? And we still call police when there's trouble!
We are oblivious fools, huh?
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This asshole coldly shot that man to death and later (allegedly) claimed he was reaching for his tazer, but accidentally drew his gun instead. What a crock of shit.
NOTE: This is a real video. If you view it, you will see a man shot to death. If you do not wish to see such a horrific, tragic, and cowardly act, do not watch the clip.
not horrific at all. I can buy the cops story.
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Really? It's that bad? And we still call police when there's trouble!
We are oblivious fools, huh?
The cops dont stop crime, they respond to it.
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not horrific at all. I can buy the cops story.
Because you want to. The video speaks for itself.
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hahahahaha, sounds like we've got another BayGBM on board folks, the "gay conspiracy theorist" everyone is a closet case, Abe Lincoln, George Washington, Martin Luther King, Fidel Castro, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Joe Namath, Teddy Roosevelt, etc., all succked dick and took it up the butt according to these annoying ass clowns. :D
sweetheart settle down and extract the dildo from your ass. i've been here quite some time and have no gimmicks :)
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The cops dont stop crime, they respond to it.
Yet we keep calling. What's wrong with us?
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Yet we keep calling. What's wrong with us?
I have never called a cop in my life for "protection".
Maybe you call hoping that they have their way with you with their baton.
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cop tells the dude to look him in the eye then he does and the cop muggs his ass
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choked out 4 skateboarding.
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LOL Of course~ Last time I saw your pic you looked like an average black guy with a big head and big lips.
right.. you are an idiot. I wore a medium helmet and my lips are pretty small for a black man. though i do have a big nose...wanna see chief
yeah thats me
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right.. you are an idiot. I wore a medium helmet and my lips are pretty small for a black man. though i do have a big nose...wanna see chief
yeah thats me
looking big and healthy right there Mal, don't pay any mind to "muscle mcmannus" he's another so called "great natural" who claims to be 6'5" 255 pounds shredded with 35 inch quads yet he won't post a picture of himself. ::)
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looking big and healthy right there Mal, don't pay any mind to "muscle mcmannus" he's another so called "great natural" who claims to be 6'5" 255 pounds shredded with 35 inch quads yet he won't post a picture of himself. ::)
you shittin me right... he's one of those?
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you shittin me right... he's one of those?
yes he is, i guess his dog ate his camera and Best Buy has been out of the model he wants for 2 years. ::)
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yes he is, i guess his dog ate his camera and Best Buy has been out of the model he wants for 2 years. ::)
maybe ht tried to upload them and something is wrong with the connection. who knows ::)
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maybe ht tried to upload them and something is wrong with the connection. who knows ::)
BTW my girl's favorite soap is Young and the Restless and i've been watching your sister on there, good looking woman, good character she plays too.
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BTW my girl's favorite soap is Young and the Restless and i've been watching your sister on there, good looking woman, good character she plays too.
Oh cool. thanks. Its actually kind of good...i admit I've been following it
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Oh cool. thanks. Its actually kind of good...i admit I've been following it
looks like 'ol Nick might be out in the cold at Newman with the old man back and Nicholas and Victoria back too. :D
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looks like 'ol Nick might be out in the cold at Newman with the old man back and Nicholas and Victoria back too. :D
right. I waitin to see what happens when Cane finds out the broad is really pregnant by Billy. And he was supportin that bitch for all that time
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right. I waitin to see what happens when Cane finds out the broad is really pregnant by Billy. And he was supportin that bitch for all that time
that chick is cute but she's a bitch.
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that chick is cute but she's a bitch.
I like neils chick. Exotic...
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I like neils chick. Exotic...
yeah she's pretty, Carmen.
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I have never called a cop in my life for "protection".
Would you like those numbers engraved on the trophy, or should I just put "Badass"?
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Would you like those numbers engraved on the trophy, or should I just put "Badass"?
shut up I wanna read more about this soap opera.
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Would you like those numbers engraved on the trophy, or should I just put "Badass"?
No, just the facts.
Cops respond to crime, they do not stop it.
Just like in Columbine, many cops wait till the SFTF is over and then respond after the fact.
Those SWAT fags in Columbine did nothing and waited outside and more people died as a result.
Go watch the video.
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No, just the facts.
Cops respond to crime, they do not stop it.
Just like in Columbine, many cops wait till the SFTF is over and then respond after the fact.
Those SWAT fags in Columbine did nothing and waited outside and more people died as a result.
Go watch the video.
That is a true statement... I'd bet the times the police actually STOP crime is 1 in 1000.
Most of the time the Police simply report on the crimes after they occur... I agree that you shouldn't look to the police for protection.
It's an unfortunate fact.
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One of the best songs of all time.
So much truth in that song.
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One of the best songs of all time.
So much truth in that song.
Straight up... accurate as hell.
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man 333 you are an alright guy. i thought you were just an exteremely right wingged wackjob. but you are an alright guy. you aint racist at all
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man 333 you are an alright guy. i thought you were just an exteremely right wingged wackjob. but you are an alright guy. you aint racist at all
I am more a libertarian type in the fashion of Thomas Jefferson.
I dont like the ACLU however because they are selective in what rights they will defend and promote crazy crap that restricts peoples rights, not defend them. When was the last time you ever saw them defend the 2nd amendment?
I dont want the govt in my wallet, in my bedroom, in my paycheck, in my car, in my cell phone or email, etc. We had a revolution in this country in 1776 for government abuses far less than we have now.
I know the criminal justice system from the inside and will tell you it absolutely is horrible. Ever hear the word "testilie"??????
For example - a buddy of mine was arrested in the Bronx on false charges of sexual abuse. The case was eventually thrown out as it was bs charges brought by the daughter of a detective.
However, when he was busted they arrested him on a Friday morning knowing he would have to spend all weekend in "The Tombs." The holding pen where they hold people pending arraignment, sometimes for days, is less than a kennel holding dogs.
I went to visit him since i had to bail him out of criminal court. There were people in there for days on all sorts of BS charges like not having a hot dog license, riding a bike on a sidewalk, etc etc. All b.s garbage meant to make "collars".
Its total b.s. and many of these poor slobs who could not make bail are stuck in their for days for no good reason and treated like cattle.
BTW - I still jam to my old BDP, P.E., Ice T., and Slayer records.
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man 333 you are an alright guy. i thought you were just an exteremely right wingged wackjob. but you are an alright guy. you aint racist at all
I find it disgusting that many people condone beat downs cops give to "those people" while thiking it will never happen to them.
It happens to all types of people every day.
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I find it disgusting that many people condone beat downs cops give to "those people" while thiking it will never happen to them.
It happens to all types of people every day.
yes it does black white brown and asian...the LAPD dont discriminate..Well its really the sherrifs. in LA county.They beat up people in hawthorne everyday for sport
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yes it does black white brown and asian...the LAPD dont discriminate..Well its really the sherrifs. in LA county.They beat up people in hawthorne everyday for sport
When was the last time you ever had a cop come up to you say "How is your day going sir?" or
"Is there anything I can help you with?"
That is their job right?????
No. We are all "civilians" like we live in some police or military state.
How many walk the beat anymore????
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I grew up in a really small town, so we knew all the cops. One year at the fair my older brother snatched one of their walkie-talkies and called "here piggy, piggy piggy" into it. hahaha, they weren't amused. haha
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I grew up in a really small town, so we knew all the cops. One year at the fair my older brother snatched one of their walkie-talkies and called "here piggy, piggy piggy" into it. hahaha, they weren't amused. haha
hahaha thats funny
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hahaha thats funny
That brother was a pretty rough character, he's settled down now. Ironically, my other brother was a cop in Florida and retired....hahaha
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That brother was a pretty rough character, he's settled down now. Ironically, my other brother was a cop in Florida and retired....hahaha
damn. My god brother is a cop. and all the people on the block we grew up on were like "Damn malcolm whats up with your bro. Why did he become a cop. you didnt try to talk him out of it. man thats messed up"
They were talkin like he was a drug dealer or something. i thought that was funny
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damn. My god brother is a cop. and all the people on the block we grew up on were like "Damn malcolm whats up with your bro. Why did he become a cop. you didnt try to talk him out of it. man thats messed up"
They were talkin like he was a drug dealer or something. i thought that was funny
Krs-One knew the deal.
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the scum didnt resist, but he sure terrorized the passengers on BART until the cops nailed his ass. no great loss.
Hey that's nice, your keyboard reaches all the way under your bed. Watch out for evil-doers. Bed wetter.
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national police response time is 11 minutes, on average.
Soo...
how many crimes do you know of that last 11 minutes? I could break in, rape a chick, kill her, and grab her purse and i'd probably be done in under eight.
Seeing as most crimes happen much faster, it's safe to say the job of police is primarily to investigate, not stop, crimes.
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Middle class white kids whose parents make just enough to disqualify their kids from receiving any free money from the government yet obvioulsy make nowhere near enough to fund a college education don't get shit. They have to take out loans and most of those loans the fucking government won't even subsidize. Meanwhile, Larell from Hotlanta whose mom is on welfare can get a free ride even if his grades are shit and barely makes it through high school. Like I said the California government was giving hispanics, ILLEGALS I MIGHT ADD, In-state tuition to colleges here in California. There are a shit ton of minority scholarships as well. Just for the color of your skin.
So your beef is with undeserving minority students who did not have to compete in the same application process as others. I believe Indians and Asians rarely fall in that category. Actually, the reverse happens, because they score so well in aptitude tests that they are treated the same as whites.
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So your beef is with undeserving minority students who did not have to compete in the same application process as others. I believe Indians and Asians rarely fall in that category. Actually, the reverse happens, because they score so well in aptitude tests that they are treated the same as whites.
But he is wrong. im black from a middle class and i didnt get any gov assistance so he should shut the hell up about things he dosent know. He is speaking half truths. Like i said my parents used to make just enough to be called middle class and we didnt get any grants...i HAD to play football in undergrad. And for my Mcat prep i had to pay that out of pocket. And emory is out of pocket right now. but my sister is pretty successful so she covers it.
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But he is wrong. im black from a middle class and i didnt get any gov assistance so he should shut the hell up about things he dosent know. He is speaking half truths. Like i said my parents used to make just enough to be called middle class and we didnt get any grants...i HAD to play football in undergrad. And for my Mcat prep i had to pay that out of pocket. And emory is out of pocket right now. but my sister is pretty successful so she covers it.
I'm also black, middle class, and received no government assistance to attend school.
I had to compete with everyone else for everything I got, including admission.
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I'm also black, middle class, and received no government assistance to attend school.
I had to compete with everyone else for everything I got, including admission.
where did you go
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But he is wrong. im black from a middle class and i didnt get any gov assistance so he should shut the hell up about things he dosent know. He is speaking half truths. Like i said my parents used to make just enough to be called middle class and we didnt get any grants...i HAD to play football in undergrad. And for my Mcat prep i had to pay that out of pocket. And emory is out of pocket right now. but my sister is pretty successful so she covers it.
Props for making it on your own. Society would be much better if more people have the drive to better themselves and own up to their responsibilities.
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where did you go
Did most of my undergrad at State, but graduated from Maryland.
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yes it does black white brown and asian...the LAPD dont discriminate..Well its really the sherrifs. in LA county.They beat up people in hawthorne everyday for sport
The sheriffs do? Haven't heard of any major complaints lately.
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The sheriffs do? Haven't heard of any major complaints lately.
hell yeah. you never hear about sheriffs doin nothin. But they definatley do. They kick eveyones ass..
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hell yeah. you never hear about sheriffs doin nothin. But they definatley do. They kick eveyones ass..
For sure man. If it was LAPD, it def would have been in the news.
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I am more a libertarian type in the fashion of Thomas Jefferson.
I dont like the ACLU however because they are selective in what rights they will defend and promote crazy crap that restricts peoples rights, not defend them. When was the last time you ever saw them defend the 2nd amendment?
I dont want the govt in my wallet, in my bedroom, in my paycheck, in my car, in my cell phone or email, etc. We had a revolution in this country in 1776 for government abuses far less than we have now.
I know the criminal justice system from the inside and will tell you it absolutely is horrible. Ever hear the word "testilie"??????
For example - a buddy of mine was arrested in the Bronx on false charges of sexual abuse. The case was eventually thrown out as it was bs charges brought by the daughter of a detective.
However, when he was busted they arrested him on a Friday morning knowing he would have to spend all weekend in "The Tombs." The holding pen where they hold people pending arraignment, sometimes for days, is less than a kennel holding dogs.
I went to visit him since i had to bail him out of criminal court. There were people in there for days on all sorts of BS charges like not having a hot dog license, riding a bike on a sidewalk, etc etc. All b.s garbage meant to make "collars".
Its total b.s. and many of these poor slobs who could not make bail are stuck in their for days for no good reason and treated like cattle.
BTW - I still jam to my old BDP, P.E., Ice T., and Slayer records.
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Slayer & Ice T did a song together that was awesome.
BDP was definately the best. Boogie Down Bronx!
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Slayer & Ice T - Disorder
This Sountrack was sick.
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looks like 'ol Nick might be out in the cold at Newman with the old man back and Nicholas and Victoria back too. :D
was that SquadFather playing Catherine Chancellor 20 years ago
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So your beef is with undeserving minority students who did not have to compete in the same application process as others. I believe Indians and Asians rarely fall in that category. Actually, the reverse happens, because they score so well in aptitude tests that they are treated the same as whites.
No moron my beef is with reverse discrimination that the US has been promoting for the last several decades. There is an enormous amount of preferential treatment for minorities at the corporate and university level in this country, it's disgusting! America is a multiculti love fest these days. To say blacks or any other minorities need any type of preferential treatment is unAmerican and unConsitutitional. Two wrongs don't make a right. The white male is a minority in the United States. Look around you. Women, blacks, asians, hispanics.........can do whatever they want....say whatever they want..........but white men look out for their own we are racist. Sorry if we happened to be the most successful, cunning, resourceful skin color the past 200 years. There wasn't affirmative action 500 years ago. White people plundered, pillaged, and conquered fairly and squarely like any other race. Arabs had their hayday. The Spanish had theirs. The Chinese had theirs. Maybe one day the blacks might have theirs. But that's no reason for white people not to look out for each other. Afterall, isn't that what America is all about? Self interest??????????? Pull your head out of your fairy tale ass thinking other races don't put their own first. I work with Philipinos and Mexicans on a daily basis. They stick together as do blacks.
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No moron my beef is with reverse discrimination that the US has been promoting for the last several decades. There is an enormous amount of preferential treatment for minorities at the corporate and university level in this country, it's disgusting! America is a multiculti love fest these days. To say blacks or any other minorities need any type of preferential treatment is unAmerican and unConsitutitional. Two wrongs don't make a right. The white male is a minority in the United States. Look around you. Women, blacks, asians, hispanics.........can do whatever they want....say whatever they want..........but white men look out for their own we are racist. Sorry if we happened to be the most successful, cunning, resourceful skin color the past 200 years. There wasn't affirmative action 500 years ago. White people plundered, pillaged, and conquered fairly and squarely like any other race. Arabs had their hayday. The Spanish had theirs. The Chinese had theirs. Maybe one day the blacks might have theirs. But that's no reason for white people not to look out for each other. Afterall, isn't that what America is all about? Self interest??????????? Pull your head out of your fairy tale ass thinking other races don't put their own first. I work with Philipinos and Mexicans on a daily basis. They stick together as do blacks.
Don't take it out on me because you can't fucking articulate your points. Unlike you, I can only make judgements about how you feel based on what you write in this forum.
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Don't take it out on me because you can't fucking articulate your points. Unlike you, I can only make judgements about how you feel based on what you write in this forum.
you tell him bud
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This officer is being arraigned for the shooting. MSNBC just showed his mugshot :)