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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Method101 on June 20, 2009, 02:38:59 PM
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Why do we at getbig always talk shit about Natural bodybuilders, when we should respect them more than the drug abusing, law breaking IFBB pros. For one, we can compare our physiques far more realistically with theirs than somone taking 1g of test a week.
Don't bother posting about psuedo naturals here like John Hansen/Kyoshi Moody/Jeff Willet/Eric Broser you will be laughed at because they are scumbag liars worse than even IFBB pros.
True Natural bodybuilders, anyone who thinks otherwise must look like utter shit.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne29_12_big.jpg)(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne29_11_big.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o1eJx3E9x64/SgXI9pVkO_I/AAAAAAAAAVA/uIW06s0p9Ro/s400/JR+-+SC+-+19+weeks+out,+5-08-09.JPG)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o1eJx3E9x64/SgXI9o-IHPI/AAAAAAAAAU4/l4mly2t6IFc/s400/JR+-+ST+-+19+weeks+out,+5-08-09.JPG)
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it is a shame that for two guys with decent physiques that they ignore the fact that they don't even have somewhat a stylish hairstyle
and jrod and those eyebrows- :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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it is a shame that for two guys with decent physiques that they ignore the fact that they don't even have somewhat a stylish hairstyle
and jrod and those eyebrows- :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Not everyone wants to be a guido spending more money on jeans than their car like you johhny.
;D
j.k man your cool.
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True Natural bodybuilders, anyone who thinks otherwise must look like utter shit.
you cant know that for sure.. btw, what do you look like?
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Not everyone wants to be a guido spending more money on jeans than their car like you johhny.
;D
j.k man your cool.
i know your j.k but those guys could use a good stylist
...like my man Mr. Raymond, that guy is awesome/gay
i remember when i first went to him he said "I have a vision....I want to make you Enrique Iglesia"...the rest is history
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you cant know that for sure.. btw, what do you look like?
my back is better than yours with 1.5 years training and no juice unlike you who has trained for years and taken juice in the past now you look like a fat sack of shit and spend all your time on myspace trying to coherse women who you will never meet in real life because they soon realise you are a self-obsessed balding idiot with a whole list of genetic defects. The ultimate self-ownage is the way you attempt to flex your biceps while pointing at one of your half-arsed efforts at artwork, sadly for you everyone can see through that and think its pathetic.
One a juicer always a juicer, you get NO respect from me ever since you flexed your biceps as you pointed at a drawing.
::)
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my back is better than yours with 1.5 years training and no juice unlike you who has trained for years and taken juice in the past now you look like a fat sack of shit and spend all your time on myspace trying to coherse women who you will never meet in real life because they soon realise you are a self-obsessed balding idiot with a whole list of genetic defects. The ultimate self-ownage is the way you attempt to flex your biceps while pointing at one of your half-arsed efforts at artwork, sadly for you everyone can see through that and think its pathetic.
lol.. meltdown.
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my back is better than yours
you know the deal.... pics or bullshit
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One a juicer always a juicer, you get NO respect from me ever since you flexed your biceps as you pointed at a drawing.
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I was natural in that pic.. and its a painting :)
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lol.. meltdown.
change your life now before it's to late. Delete your myspace account, burn all your guido clothes, ditch the psuedo intellectual, arrogant persona and stop flexing your biceps while pointing at a piece of your artwork with the camera on 10 seconds timer because you can't get anyone in real life who can keep a straight face to take a picture of you doing a biceps pose at your pictures. Also, the pathetic attempts at acting "alpha" when everytime sombody posts a picture of a woman who is remotely attractive it is followed up by you going on a story about how you would like to "insert various sexual act here" with her.
Tbomz, iv posted pictures 1 time before, if you want to see them badly enough find them. I admit i look like shit, but not as bad as James who thinks hes good enough to put that picture as his avatar.
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you know the deal.... pics or bullshit
he is full of shit
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change your life now before it's to late. Delete your myspace account, burn all your guido clothes, ditch the psuedo intellectual, arrogant persona and stop flexing your biceps while pointing at a piece of your artwork with the camera on 10 seconds timer because you can't get anyone in real life who can keep a straight face to take a picture of you doing a biceps pose at your pictures.
Tbomz, iv posted pictures 1 time before, if you want to see them badly enough find them. I admit i look like shit, but not as bad as James who thinks hes good enough to put that picture as his avatar.
you actually made me crack a smile, and I needed to smile today.
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change your life now before it's to late. Delete your myspace account, burn all your guido clothes, ditch the psuedo intellectual, arrogant persona and stop flexing your biceps while pointing at a piece of your artwork with the camera on 10 seconds timer because you can't get anyone in real life who can keep a straight face to take a picture of you doing a biceps pose at your pictures.
i agree cuz artists get WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYY more pussy than self obsorbed guys who are way into their physiques
stick to painting- it will get you more pussy in the end
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my back is better than yours with 1.5 years training and no juice unlike you who has trained for years and taken juice in the past now you look like a fat sack of shit and spend all your time on myspace trying to coherse women who you will never meet in real life because they soon realise you are a self-obsessed balding idiot with a whole list of genetic defects. The ultimate self-ownage is the way you attempt to flex your biceps while pointing at one of your half-arsed efforts at artwork, sadly for you everyone can see through that and think its pathetic.
One a juicer always a juicer, you get NO respect from me ever since you flexed your biceps as you pointed at a drawing.
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the PROS in this sport are all juicers...you sound like the right winger with a holier than thou attitude
this sounds like the epic " cant find a contact meltdown"
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Tbomz, iv posted pictures 1 time before, if you want to see them badly enough find them. I admit i look like shit, but not as bad as James who thinks hes good enough to put that picture as his avatar.
i think i remember that you did but i dont think it was a back photo, which is what you were claiming.
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he is full of shit
Fuck off prick, are you subscribed to my posts? i dont give a fuck what you have to say about anything, you obviously care about what i say and hang on my every post.
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stick to painting- it will get you more pussy in the end
that's pretty much all i do.. I never claimed to be a *bodybuilder*.. but I do enjoy lifting, and I did enjoy using steroids :)
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Fuck off prick, are you subscribed to my posts? i dont give a fuck what you have to say about anything, you obviously care about what i say and hang on my every post.
meltdown ::)
you are no good at this junior
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True Natural bodybuilders, anyone who thinks otherwise must look like utter shit.
I have a lot better legs than Layne and my upper body isn't far away from his, but damn I just don't believe there are any true naturals anywhere. It always comes out that they have tried something in the past.
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I have a lot better legs than Layne and my upper body isn't far away from his
ok ::) ::)
(http://www.theocbwebsite.com/IFPA/images/Pros/MB/LayneNorton.jpg)
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ok ::) ::)
(http://www.theocbwebsite.com/IFPA/images/Pros/MB/LayneNorton.jpg)
why didcha post a pic of that euthopian dood? ???
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It don't get no better than a dude in his skiddies posing next to a shit-stained toilet bowl and a guy with a smile that can blind posing in a spangly blue thong next to a double bed
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I'm natural.
Fuck natural.
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Hahahaha oh brother, another wannabe "hardcore" post by our resident tiny tit "methhead101", who built his 6'2" 200 pound frame in his parents basement with his concrete filled weightset. ;D
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why didcha post a pic of that euthopian dood? ???
don't you mean: that human being who does not have to jab expensive and illegal drugs into his ass/delts to maintain his physique?
Also, the guy who won't shrink and suffer severe mental problems should he be kept away from illegal substances for more than a day or two.
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There is no such thing as natural Bodybuilding, has never been.
Bodybuilders are the ones who don't comment on drug intake, Natural Bodybuilders are Bodybuilders with worse genetics (and because of that smaller) who lie about their drug intake. That's the only difference.
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True Natural bodybuilders, anyone who thinks otherwise must look like utter shit.
They are not natural.
Yeah, it's sad I agree
The triceps always tell the truth
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6'2" 200 pound
that explains a lot.
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don't you mean: that human being who does not have to jab expensive and illegal drugs into his ass/delts to maintain his physique?
if u hate this sport soo much...why r you here?
Also, the guy who won't shrink and suffer severe mental problems should he be kept away from illegal substances for more than a day or two.
people like you REALLY shouldn't do steroids....i agree...
ya put a shitwad on teh juice...all ya get is a bigger shitwad :-\
totally agree with the stay natural thing for you!
as for me...my body..my choice...you dont factor into the equation
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why didcha post a pic of that euthopian dood? ???
haha you have no saying on what anyone looks like
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if u hate this sport soo much...why r you here?
people like you REALLY shouldn't do steroids....i agree...
ya put a shitwad on teh juice...all ya get is a bigger shitwad :-\
totally agree with the stay natural thing for you!
as for me...my body..my choice...you dont factor into the equation
Post your pictures "ToxicAvenger" i bet your some 40 year old dude who has shit genetic response to gear and competed in some shitty local contest which you think qualifies you as an "iron warrior" and you have all jay cutlers dvds on display in your house face out on your shelves, your so proud of your collection of flex magazines spanning the last 20 years aren't you John?
(http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/_arquivo_hannibal_lecter-copy.jpg)
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haha you have no saying on what anyone looks like
r u euthopean?
if so...pm your addy and i'll send food ASAP 8)
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This is always a stupid argument.
Take drugs or don't take drugs.
It is retarded to divide this freakishly small subculture with the use/don't use/they must be using/they lie about using discussion.
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if u hate this sport soo much...why r you here?
I think there is a sizeable minority of getbiggers who laugh at the tacky and low-class nature of the modern incarnation of the "sport" but are still drawn to it out of a love of kitsch and an addiction to the crazy nature of this site.
When people start raging arguments about men in G-strings and posting endless pictures of their favorite man...these are the ones who tend to tune out.
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Post your pictures "ToxicAvenger" i bet your some 40 year old dude who has shit genetic response to gear and competed in some shitty local contest which you think qualifies you as an "iron warrior" and you have all jay cutlers dvds on display in your house face out on your shelves, your so proud of yourcollection of flex magazines spanning 20 year aren't you?
(http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/_arquivo_hannibal_lecter-copy.jpg)
bingo!
shitty iron warrior wit shit genetix > bitter dood that cant afford juice ;D
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I think there is a sizeable minority of getbiggers who laugh at the tacky and low-class nature of the modern incarnation of the "sport" but are still drawn to it out of a love of kitsch and an addiction to the crazy nature of this site.
When people start raging arguments about men in G-strings and posting endless pictures of their favorite man...these are the ones who tend to tune out.
Exactly, TrueGrit you said it perfect i love you.
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I think there is a sizeable minority of getbiggers who laugh at the tacky and low-class nature of the modern incarnation of the "sport" but are still drawn to it out of a love of kitsch and an addiction to the crazy nature of this site.
after all is said and done...its still a fucked up sport...but its MY fucked up sport yanno!
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Exactly, TrueGrit you said it perfect i love you.
haha, thanks man...keep the hard and uncompromising shit coming bro..
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btw..those pix of Arnold and Lev...
they dont look like they just swallowed a bucket fulla cum :-\
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that explains a lot.
Hahaha, he actually claimed he outlifts all the juicers in his gym. This kid must be a beast. ::)
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r u euthopean?
if so...pm your addy and i'll send food ASAP 8)
you better save it for yourself
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230359.0;attach=271956;image)
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you better save it for yourself
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230359.0;attach=271956;image)
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ;D
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Hahaha, he actually claimed he outlifts all the juicers in his gym. This kid must be a beast. ::)
well, its depends.. 200@6'2 could look great.. its just not very large. chicks don't like *beast* anyway.. if he's 200 with a good structure - that would trump beast status with females.
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ok ::) ::)
(http://www.theocbwebsite.com/IFPA/images/Pros/MB/LayneNorton.jpg)
I just meant I have good hamstring development also. ;)
And did I mention I'm not even a bodybuilder hahaha. :D So in the end I don't care.
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sounds to me like method just cant afford juice and venting or cant find a source rofl
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my back is better than yours with 1.5 years training and no juice unlike you who has trained for years and taken juice in the past now you look like a fat sack of shit and spend all your time on myspace trying to coherse women who you will never meet in real life because they soon realise you are a self-obsessed balding idiot with a whole list of genetic defects. The ultimate self-ownage is the way you attempt to flex your biceps while pointing at one of your half-arsed efforts at artwork, sadly for you everyone can see through that and think its pathetic.
One a juicer always a juicer, you get NO respect from me ever since you flexed your biceps as you pointed at a drawing.
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I would have no reason to continue lifting after such a statement.
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I would have no reason to continue lifting after such a statement.
in reality - I was not flexing at all in that pic - and its one of my very first paintings.
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i agree cuz artists get WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYY more pussy than self obsorbed guys who are way into their physiques
stick to painting- it will get you more pussy in the end
actually bodybuilders are artists, our bodies are the masterpiece
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James looks good, juicer or not.
No one in this thread comes close to any body part of Layne if he would diet down to his condition.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ;D
better then your ugly ass man! :-* posing in front of the shitter
and thats after around 4 months of not training substaining a lumbar injury :)
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James looks good, juicer or not.
thank you :) I was 190 or so in that pic, no steroids, pre steroids... (steroids rock, btw)
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Where are Methods pics?
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Why do we at getbig always talk shit about Natural bodybuilders, when we should respect them more than the drug abusing, law breaking IFBB pros. For one, we can compare our physiques far more realistically with theirs than somone taking 1g of test a week.
Don't bother posting about psuedo naturals here like John Hansen/Kyoshi Moody/Jeff Willet/Eric Broser you will be laughed at because they are scumbag liars worse than even IFBB pros.
True Natural bodybuilders, anyone who thinks otherwise must look like utter shit.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne29_12_big.jpg)(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne29_11_big.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o1eJx3E9x64/SgXI9pVkO_I/AAAAAAAAAVA/uIW06s0p9Ro/s400/JR+-+SC+-+19+weeks+out,+5-08-09.JPG)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o1eJx3E9x64/SgXI9o-IHPI/AAAAAAAAAU4/l4mly2t6IFc/s400/JR+-+ST+-+19+weeks+out,+5-08-09.JPG)
And you post pics of two guys that aren't natural ... great just great... they have smelled it, and taken it up their tail pipe... count on that.
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And you post pics of two guys that aren't natural ... great just great... they have smelled it, and taken it up their tail pipe... count on that.
I don't know who the other guy is, but Layne is absolutely natural. I think he said he did some prohormone a long time ago (Not sure though) for a brief period, but it didn't contribute anything. For all intents and purposes his physique was built 100% naturally.
If you think Layne's physique can't be built naturally...You're either not dedicated to bodybuilding enough, lazy, or have bad genetics. Or all 3.
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Layne is natural... and you know so because you have proof... and the proof is he said so... Everyone lies about being natural. Maybe it can be built natural, but no one would do it ...
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Layne is natural... and you know so because you have proof... and the proof is he said so... Everyone lies about being natural. Maybe it can be built natural, but no one would do it ...
Exactly.
Is Ronnie Coleman natural? Yes, so is Levrone and Klaus by the way. ;D
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No one knows if someone is natural other than himself.
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Layne is natural... and you know so because you have proof... and the proof is he said so... Everyone lies about being natural. Maybe it can be built natural, but no one would do it ...
First of all, Layne has been saying that he is natural since he first started lifting weights and since the early days of Bodybuilding.com. He has never deviated from that. Also, people who would lie like this for so many years have certain personalities that Layne doesn't have.
Second of all, WHY would no one build a physique like that naturally? There are TONS of bodybuilders in the world who are very very dedicated and natural, and have been lifting for years. WHY would no one build a physique like that naturally?
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why is the one dude posing in his underwear in a public bathroom stall????......has anyone else wondered this.......schmoe session at a rest stop
the bathroom dude could possibly have acheived his physique without steroids, but with more pro hormones then he is leading on.....you see thats how this game works....you always minimize what you are taking......if someone asks me what im taking now, i would tell them "ahh, a shot or two of sust".....while i woldnt be lying, i would be minimalizing...so if he tells you he "maybe took some prohormones a long time ago"....it means he uses them regularly.....and lest not forget pro-hormones are really pr0-steroids....some more powerful then conventional steroids
and the second guy, anyone who thinks he is natural is just silly ::) ::) ::)
but again i query.....why is the first dude posing in his underwear in a public toilet
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... WHY would no one build a physique like that naturally? There are TONS of bodybuilders in the world who are very very dedicated and natural, and have been lifting for years. WHY would no one build a physique like that naturally?
Because the TONS of bodybuilders you are talking about don't exist. The very very dedicated bodybuilders take drugs... end of story.
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Sorry if I spoiled your dreams pops...
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Have either of them made money out of it? All that work, what did they get for it?
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j rod has ZERO fat in his diet
tell me how somebody builds and maintains a physique like that without fat
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why is the one dude posing in his underwear in a public bathroom stall????......has anyone else wondered this.......schmoe session at a rest stop
the bathroom dude could possibly have acheived his physique without steroids, but with more pro hormones then he is leading on.....you see thats how this game works....you always minimize what you are taking......if someone asks me what im taking now, i would tell them "ahh, a shot or two of sust".....while i woldnt be lying, i would be minimalizing...so if he tells you he "maybe took some prohormones a long time ago"....it means he uses them regularly.....and lest not forget pro-hormones are really pr0-steroids....some more powerful then conventional steroids
and the second guy, anyone who thinks he is natural is just silly ::) ::) ::)
but again i query.....why is the first dude posing in his underwear in a public toilet
Some people do, Layne doesn't.
And Pro hormones. Or even "legal steroids" are NOT anywhere near as powerful as conventional steroids. That is a joke. The side effects are more powerful, but as far as muscle mass goes..NO pro-hormone or legal steroid could ever compare to even D-bol.
I'm so sick of people trying to minimize the achievements of others because they themselves can not achieve them.
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j rod has ZERO fat in his diet
tell me how somebody builds and maintains a physique like that without fat
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i'm skeptical about both being natural. Do either make any money out of it???
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Because the TONS of bodybuilders you are talking about don't exist. The very very dedicated bodybuilders take drugs... end of story.
You're delusional. I actually go to the gym and workout and I know a lot of guys who are very large and are 100% natural. Some take creatine, some take things like NO2, but all are natural bodybuilders. I know they don't use steroids because they don't know anything about steroids, they always talk bad about steroids and call using them "cheating", and they even acted shocked when I mentioned that pro-bodybuilders use steroids. It's obvious that they've never used steroids, all aside from the fact that they say they have never used.
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Have either of them made money out of it? All that work, what did they get for it?
I don't know, really. But Layne has been saying he was natural ever since he started lifting weights when he was like 17 years old. You can see his progress from late teens to mid 20s and it is a slow and gradual process.
Old pic of Layne:
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/laynefd.jpg)
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I know they don't use steroids because they don't know anything about steroids, they always talk bad about steroids and call using them "cheating", and they even acted shocked when I mentioned that pro-bodybuilders use steroids. It's obvious that they've never used steroids, all aside from the fact that they say they have never used.
do you workout with blind people or retarded people???
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You're delusional. I actually go to the gym and workout and I know a lot of guys who are very large and are 100% natural. Some take creatine, some take things like NO2, but all are natural bodybuilders. I know they don't use steroids because they don't know anything about steroids, they always talk bad about steroids and call using them "cheating", and they even acted shocked when I mentioned that pro-bodybuilders use steroids. It's obvious that they've never used steroids, all aside from the fact that they say they have never used.
with modern gym equipments its now possible
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do you workout with blind people or retarded people???
Just people who don't waste their lives on internet message boards or read muscle magazines. Most people don't know that pros use steroids, including weight lifters.
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i'm skeptical about both being natural. Do either make any money out of it???
layne writes articles for some magazines
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You're delusional. I actually go to the gym and workout and I know a lot of guys who are very large and are 100% natural. Some take creatine, some take things like NO2, but all are natural bodybuilders. I know they don't use steroids because they don't know anything about steroids, they always talk bad about steroids and call using them "cheating", and they even acted shocked when I mentioned that pro-bodybuilders use steroids. It's obvious that they've never used steroids, all aside from the fact that they say they have never used.
People are so fucked up that they lie about talking steroids and sometimes it's like they almost believe they are clean themself. Got a "friend" that lied about being clean for many years. One day he called me and asked me if I could get him some HCG. Apparently his delivery guy couldn't deliver so he had nowhere to turn. So he turned to his old buddy. I asked him why he wanted the HCG and he confessed he'd been juicing all along. Crazy fuck, he lied to me for years. I knew he wasn't clean anyway, wasn't upset with him. I know some guys can't help they lie about this."Schizo-guys that play natural that "forgets" all about the testo they shot up their ass when they come to the gym. The reason so many people claim they are natural is because they want people to look up to them and say.. "wow you got a great body". And they know that people wouldn't be amazed if they knew that they are shooting like everybody else. Those guys got so low self esteem that they have to play out the "natural act" to get nice comments from people. Fuckers ... liers... Naturals are almost like dinosaurs... the tiny ones ... and extinct.
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And Pro hormones. Or even "legal steroids" are NOT anywhere near as powerful as conventional steroids. That is a joke.
that's not true.. why do you keep repeating that?
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Just people who don't waste their lives on internet message boards or read muscle magazines. Most people don't know that pros use steroids, including weight lifters.
Weightlifters... worst liers.. Knew a guy... acutally he hasn't come clean yet. Gets swollen from time to time... probably taking a-bombs... benching 450 ... clean.... yeah right.
Everyone who has worked out for a little while and has a slight interest in training know about steroids and the pros, and that weightlifters and BBs use em.
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that's not true.. why do you keep repeating that?
Because it is. Even the strongest prohormone/Legal steroids today can't compete with simple Dianabol. Pheraplex, SUPERDROL, etc. None of these things are even close to basic Dianabol.
The side effects though are actually usually worse. It doesn't make legal sense,, but that is how it is.
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Because it is. Even the strongest prohormone/Legal steroids today can't compete with simple Dianabol. Pheraplex, SUPERDROL, etc. None of these things are even close to basic Dianabol.
The side effects though are actually usually worse. It doesn't make legal sense,, but that is how it is.
I haven't tried legit dianabol... I agree with you about the side effects - the over the counter stuff, particularly superdrol and m1t, are terrible.
SD - gyno in a bottle.
but - they are effective, and can dramatically change a physique.
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Designer steroids are steroids all the same - stop kidding yourselves. A lot of them are much more potent than anavar, dbol, drol, etc. Get off your high horses. Worse than a dumb juicer is an elitist dumb juicer.
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Why do we at getbig always talk shit about Natural bodybuilders, when we should respect them more than the drug abusing, law breaking IFBB pros. For one, we can compare our physiques far more realistically with theirs than somone taking 1g of test a week.
I think there's a happy medium between naturals, most of whom look like shit, and the ridiculous "standard dosages" competitive bodybuilders take today. The great physiques of the 70's and early 80's were not natural, but are a far cry from the bloated sideshows of today.
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I haven't tried legit dianabol... I agree with you about the side effects - the over the counter stuff, particularly superdrol and m1t, are terrible.
SD - gyno in a bottle.
but - they are effective, and can dramatically change a physique.
Superdrol is supposedly the "strongest" legalsteroid/prohormone on the market. Pheraplex also.
Andro/M1t aren't legal anymore.
The "Old" prohormones were a lot more effective than the new/legal prohormones/steroids but even the old one's can't compare to simple D-bol, Anadrol or Anavar. Nothing that has been legal the past 20 years even compares to the conventional illegal steroids.
Not even mentioning deca or test which is like comparing a grape to a watermelon.
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Designer steroids are steroids all the same - stop kidding yourselves. A lot of them are much more potent than anavar, dbol, drol, etc. Get off your high horses. Worse than a dumb juicer is an elitist dumb juicer.
"Designer steroids"? Which one's? Some designer steroids are legal, most aren't. Even THG is banned.
What is more potent than anavar or dbol? Superdrol? Bullshit.
The point I'm making, most of the so called "legal steroids" on the market today are worthless. Someone who has used these things briefly and made no gains from them is, for all intents and purposes, natural. The whole point is that they built their physique without steroids, and if "prohormones/legal steroids" that they took briefly contributed either nothing or very little to their physiques then it is all the same.
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Superdrol is supposedly the "strongest" legalsteroid/prohormone on the market. Pheraplex also.
Andro/M1t aren't legal anymore.
The "Old" prohormones were a lot more effective than the new/legal prohormones/steroids but even the old one's can't compare to simple D-bol, Anadrol or Anavar. Nothing that has been legal the past 20 years even compares to the conventional illegal steroids.
Not even mentioning deca or test which is like comparing a grape to a watermelon.
so wait.....you are comparing anadrol and dbol to anavar......then saying deca is more powerful then the both of them.........are you just making this stuff up as you go along because you think there is no one one here who actually has the knowlegde to call you out ??? ??? ???
and if you think there is no legal prohormone on the market today that is as powerful as the old prohormones and even most steroids......try SPAWN for a couple of months,,,,,almost pure epistane and trenbolone.....way stronger then anavar or priomo tabs
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Lots of rambling page long meltdowns here.
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Lots of rambling page long meltdowns here.
Maybe Peter Paul is posting.
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so wait.....you are comparing anadrol and dbol to anavar......then saying deca is more powerful then the both of them.........are you just making this stuff up as you go along because you think there is no one one here who actually has the knowlegde to call you out ??? ??? ???
and if you think there is no legal prohormone on the market today that is as powerful as the old prohormones and even most steroids......try SPAWN for a couple of months,,,,,almost pure epistane and trenbolone.....way stronger then anavar or priomo tabs
Anadrol, Dbol, and Anavar are comparable in the fact that they are all conventional illegal steroids which are very powerful. They are all much stronger than things like Superdrol or Pheraplex or whatnot.
Things like "SPAWN" won't do anything but give you gyno, shoot up your cholesterol and your blood pressure, and fry your liver. Sure, you might gain a few pounds of muscle after several weeks of use but that's about it.
Use the strongest pro-hormones/legal steroids on the market today (that are all legal) for a few months and you might gain 5lbs of muscle if you're lucky and you'll be sick as hell at the end of it all.
Use the strongest CONVENTIONAL STEROIDS that exist today such as testosterone, Deca, Etc. for a few months and you will probably gain a good 25lbs and you'll be a lot healthier than if you used prohormones. Some people, if they do everything right, can gain 25-30lbs of solid muscle in 4-5 months using a ton of conventional steroids.
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Damn "Method," you've been melting and ranting all over the place lately.. :-X
You're coming off as jealous and resentful of people that are bigger than you. Accept that your physique is the definition "skinny-fat" and move on, whiney.
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"Designer steroids"? Which one's? Some designer steroids are legal, most aren't. Even THG is banned.
What is more potent than anavar or dbol? Superdrol? Bullshit.
The point I'm making, most of the so called "legal steroids" on the market today are worthless. Someone who has used these things briefly and made no gains from them is, for all intents and purposes, natural. The whole point is that they built their physique without steroids, and if "prohormones/legal steroids" that they took briefly contributed either nothing or very little to their physiques then it is all the same.
Have you used Thai Pinks(Dianabol)? Have you used Oxybalone/Anadrol? Have you used Spa Anavar or Organon Deca? How about Superdrol, pheraplex or any of the popular OTC Steroids?
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Have you used Thai Pinks(Dianabol)? Have you used Oxybalone/Anadrol? Have you used Spa Anavar or Organon Deca? How about Superdrol, pheraplex or any of the popular OTC Steroids?
Hell no.
But I know people who have done all of these things. I see the results from the different things, and there is no comparison.
Do you think that Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, etc could get as big as he is if he only used OTC designer steroids or prohormones, and nothing illegal? Give me a break.
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Hell no.
But I know people who have done all of these things. I see the results from the different things, and there is no comparison.
Do you think that Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, etc could get as big as he is if he only used OTC designer steroids or prohormones, and nothing illegal? Give me a break.
Then STFU with all your talk of this and that are more or less powerful. Some people on here have used all of those and can tell you are a delusion ass clown. Don't trust what your juicer buddies tell you, because we all lie about doses, what does and doesn't work to the natural dudes like yourself. Go buy some NO Explode, cuddle up with some pics of JRod and tell me when you start growing chump :-*
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Then STFU with all your talk of this and that are more or less powerful. Some people on here have used all of those and can tell you are a delusion ass clown. Go buy some NO Explode, cuddle up with some pics of JRod and tell me when you start growing chump :-*
You don't make sense. I'm basing my statements on direct observations. Most people on getbig are idiots, and those who claim that OTC PROHORMONES or OTC STEROIDS are as powerful as the top conventional steroids then they are probably using them all at the same time and confusing the effects. It's an issue of common sense here. You're an idiot if you think that this is the case. Does Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Kevin Leverone, Ruhl, use prohormones or OTC designer steroids? Absolutely not. They use the most effective and direct substances, and using prohormones or designer OTC steroids would do NOTHING but make their side effects worse.
Again, Could Coleman build his physique as it is (or was) if he never used conventional steroids but only used Over the counter products?
Don't be stupid. Use some common sense.
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Damn "Method," you've been melting and ranting all over the place lately.. :-X
You're coming off as jealous and resentful of people that are bigger than you. Accept that your physique is the definition "skinny-fat" and move on, whiney.
my physique?.....how the fuck would you know what i look like "Jeffro"....i have never in my life posted one picture of myself on the internet you fucking douche. maybe i am just a fat troll or maybe i am in very good shape and have been around steroids for my entire life, i could tell you it the latter, but hey...its the internet....we all look like greek gods here.
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my physique?.....how the fuck would you know what i look like "Jeffro"....i have never in my life posted one picture of myself on the internet you fucking douche. maybe i am just a fat troll or maybe i am in very good shape and have been around steroids for my entire life, i could tell you it the latter, but hey...its the internet....we all look like greek gods here.
Exactly...
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Liberalhomo u have once again proved to be a niave dumbass.
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You don't make sense. I'm basing my statements on direct observations. Most people on getbig are idiots, and those who claim that OTC PROHORMONES or OTC STEROIDS are as powerful as the top conventional steroids then they are probably using them all at the same time and confusing the effects. It's an issue of common sense here. You're an idiot if you think that this is the case. Does Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Kevin Leverone, Ruhl, use prohormones or OTC designer steroids? Absolutely not. They use the most effective and direct substances, and using prohormones or designer OTC steroids would do NOTHING but make their side effects worse.
Again, Could Coleman build his physique as it is (or was) if he never used conventional steroids but only used Over the counter products?
Don't be stupid. Use some common sense.
::) ::) ::) McMannus owned you months ago on this same subject. You have ZERO experience with any AAS, yet you speak with authority. You cannot compare what a pro does and what a gym rat does, not even close, so I won't even go there. Many of these OTC products are almost as powerful as bol or drol, but the reason dianabol and drol seem more powerful is because they are usually stacked with a test base and or deca or equipoise. Guys that use OTC products usually only use that one product on its own. So if you gain 20 pounds in 6 weeks with dianabol on its own, you may gain 12-15 pounds on superdrol or M1T on its own in that same 6 weeks. Not as strong, but still pretty damn good on its own. Bottom line is, you have NEVER used, you only know what someone tells you or what you read, which may all be lies. So stop being so pompous.
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liberalismo, what makes conventional steroids magically superior to designer steroids? They were all identified long before our time, some were even produced but just not kept on the market. Anavar, dianabol, anadrol all those steroids were approved for clinical application, that is all. They are also scheduled substances. These are the only differences between designer AAS and the stuff that's been around for a long time. Technically, it has ALL been around forever, just some steroids weren't produced.
mg for mg, there are designer steroids MUCH more potent than dbol and the like. I've tried LEGIT naposim and while I prefer it over something like SD, SD is MUCH more potent!!!!!! m1t also DESTROYS any other steroid, even drol, imho. But I don't care much for orals, I can't really tolerate them anymore. Even though my liver values, kidney and cardiovascular system are fine just a week on anything and I fall apart. Even after being clean for like a year, just a few days on an oral and I'm in too much pain.
In any event, liberalismo, you have a stupid bias attitude and obviously can't be reasoned with. You go on believing your baseless myths and have a good day.
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my physique?.....how the fuck would you know what i look like "Jeffro"....i have never in my life posted one picture of myself on the internet you fucking douche. maybe i am just a fat troll or maybe i am in very good shape and have been around steroids for my entire life, i could tell you it the latter, but hey...its the internet....we all look like greek gods here.
Guess what fucktard, I was addressing the original thread poster "Method101." Nice self ownage/meltdown though.
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"Designer steroids"? Which one's? Some designer steroids are legal, most aren't. Even THG is banned.
What is more potent than anavar or dbol? Superdrol? Bullshit.
The point I'm making, most of the so called "legal steroids" on the market today are worthless. Someone who has used these things briefly and made no gains from them is, for all intents and purposes, natural. The whole point is that they built their physique without steroids, and if "prohormones/legal steroids" that they took briefly contributed either nothing or very little to their physiques then it is all the same.
how is jrod doing it without fat in his diet?
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how is jrod doing it without fat in his diet?
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You don't need fats in your diet for natural testosterone production when you supplement with a little test prop, var and winni ;)
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You don't need fats in your diet for natural testosterone production when you supplement with a little test prop, var and winni ;)
yeah that's what i'm thinking
if his zero fat diet isn't a dead giveaway i don't know what is
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Guess what fucktard, I was addressing the original thread poster "Method101." Nice self ownage/meltdown though.
yeah, you got me there....i look like an asshole for saying that now, but your post came up right after i posted something so i made a mistake, im the douche.
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yeah, you got me there....i look like an asshole for saying that now, but your post came up right after i posted something so i made a mistake, im the douche.
Outed.
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liberalismo,
are you serious or are you really that naive?
if the latter, you take the crown for the most stupid poster here, which, if I may add, is a distinction worthy of mention.
btw, why do you have a picture of an SS officer imprisoned in a Soviet Gulag camp following WWII in your avatar?
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Layne and Jrod are natural, you guys are fucking pathetic, stop training now and go kill yourselves.
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Layne and Jrod are natural, you guys are fucking pathetic, stop training now and go kill yourselves.
why don't you post a picture; rather than living vicariously through them?
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why don't you post a picture; rather than living vicariously through them?
I already have posted it once you fuck. But iv only trained 1.5 years and im 18, im nowhere near the natural limit. If you want to see my picture so bad you will have to find it.
It's gonna take me atleast 4-5 more years till i get even near to the level of jrod/layne.
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I already have posted it once you fuck. But iv only trained 1.5 years and im 18, im nowhere near the natural limit. If you want to see my picture so bad you will have to find it.
Layne and Jrod; if they are really natural are the exception, not the norm. It's unlikely that you and most guys will ever get as developed.
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in the end you probably will make more gains from an optimal dose of dbol then one of superdrol. thats because the side effects build up from superdrol so much more and the end result is that they will interfere with your health and therefore gains
but on a mg per mg level sd is stronger for sure
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If you juice,you must be one of the best in the world.
If you wont be that, stay natural.
You can look enough decent with natural.
Its my point of view.
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If you juice,you must be one of the best in the world.
If you wont be that, stay natural.
You can look enough decent with natural.
Its my point of view.
kyomu is natural and looks amazing, no need to jiuce at all if you can look like him.
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kyomu is natural and looks amazing, no need to jiuce at all if you can look like him.
thats not big or hard enough for my personal goals
I for example won't think twice about "kyomu"
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kyomu is natural and looks amazing, no need to jiuce at all if you can look like him.
Yes. Even shitty genetic guy like me can do it. Everybody can do it.
But, If somebody say that he wants to be a Mr.O and i see a good potential, I would say that he should juice.
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Fuck staying natural.............some of us actually want to be big.
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thats not big or hard enough for my personal goals
I for example won't think twice about "kyomu"
that perfectly fine with me, but you have to admit he looks better than 99% of John Doe on juice.
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if only you could maintain the juiced mass if you stopped taking them it could be worth it.
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if only you could maintain the juiced mass if you stopped taking them it could be worth it.
Yes. Thats another reason why i dont juice. I dont want to be a slave.
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Fuck staying natural.............some of us actually want to be big.
How big is the question.
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How big is the question.
True........me personally, pretty fucking big. ;)
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True........me personally, pretty fucking big. ;)
If you are not more than 90kg in the contest condition. You are not big as a juicer.
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If you are not more than 90kg in the contest condition. You are not big.
No, i am not saying i am big, i am saying i WANT to be big.
Right now i am about 95kg, though not exactly lean. I have time on my side though......
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No, i am not saying i am big, i am saying i WANT to be big.
Right now i am about 95kg, though not exactly lean. I have time on my side though......
You can be way bigger than me in the natural state.
In this pic, I was 84kg. Quite lean.
I dont know your height. If 171cm midget like me,95kg(lean like me) looks quite huge and almost a top ama or low level pro.
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I already have posted it once you fuck. But iv only trained 1.5 years and im 18, im nowhere near the natural limit.
You are closer than you could ever imagine, you'll see. ;D
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I already have posted it once you fuck. But iv only trained 1.5 years and im 18, im nowhere near the natural limit. If you want to see my picture so bad you will have to find it.
It's gonna take me atleast 4-5 more years till i get even near to the level of jrod/layne.
Dude shut the fuck up you annoying little girl! Goddamn your worse than a fucking ragging bitch! You know shit about steroids, bodybuilding, and being natural. Those guys in the pics aka Layne and that other fag in the speedo you posted pictures of are NOT natural. They may not be on steroids at this point in time but they are far from fucking natural dipshit. When you grow up and realize the world is not the pretty little fairy tale flower your homo ass thinks it is and even people like Layne Norton will LIE to make a buck you might not sound like such an annoying little twat! If I was in person listening to you spout off about Layne this and Layne that I'd probably punch you square in your lilly homo face you're so fucking annoying. Pussy!
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hes close to death.
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hes close to death.
snuff is hot
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Dude shut the fuck up you annoying little ####! Goddamn your worse than a fucking ragging bitch! You know shit about steroids, bodybuilding, and being natural. Those guys in the pics aka Layne and that other fag in the speedo you posted pictures of are NOT natural. They may not be on steroids at this point in time but they are far from fucking natural dipshit. When you grow up and realize the world is not the pretty little fairy tale flower your homo ass thinks it is and even people like Layne Norton will LIE to make a buck you might not sound like such an annoying little twat! If I was in person listening to you spout off about Layne this and Layne that I'd probably punch you square in your lilly homo face you're so fucking annoying. Pussy!
HAHAHAHAHHA I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BITCH.
Judging by how much size iv gained in 1.5 years training and not 100% effort. There is NO reason i can't get close in overall development to Layne/Jrod at some point in my lifetime, it is very believable.
You must have Dogshit genetics and no dedication if you think that is unatainable.
P.S i know there are alot of "natural bodybuilders" who take drugs, but Layne and Jrod DO NOT, i think Jrod said he used ephedrine when dieting once but that has nothing to do with muscle mass, he says he has not done anything else on the banned substances list in his life!, same goes for Layne, they are lifetime natural, the rumor that Layne used prohormones is BULLSHIT, he has never done any banned substance in his lifetime. the only supplement he uses are aminos/creatine, sorry if that is hard for you pathetic juicers to fathom.
MuscleMcMannus, you are a tiny tit who has to break the law to get any level of mass, you are as bad as Sevastase, fucking pathetic.
Start complaining about your genetic when you can do this...
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"musclemcmannus" automatically assumes everyone is juicing because everyone in his gym are stronger and bigger than him.
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"musclemcmannus" automatically assumes everyone is juicing because everyone in his gym are stronger and bigger than him.
HAHHAHA yes exactly. ;D
I bet hes the sort of guy who when hes sitting at home and his girlfriend asks him why hugh jackman has bigger muscles than him he just shouts "HES ON STEROIDS".
;D :D
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im fairly large but im not healthy, dont take this sport as serious as i did.
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im fairly large but im not healthy, dont take this sport as serious as i did.
thanks for letting us know mars
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People in this thread are idiots. They are mostly inexperienced people, probably teenagers, who have never even known someone personally who used steroids. This idea that steroid users are all giant hulking behemoths is a fallacy. MOST steroid users are under 200lbs and a lot of them are under 180lbs. MOST steroid users don't even look very muscular. You can't assume that all steroid users look like professional bodybuilders just because professional bodybuilders use steroids.
As far as prohormones go...If they compared to conventional steroids then we would hear about top professional bodybuilders using things like superdrol. We don't. Why? Because they are crap. Case closed.
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HAHAHAHAHHA I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BITCH.
Judging by how much size iv gained in 1.5 years training and not 100% effort. There is NO reason i can't get close in overall development to Layne/Jrod at some point in my lifetime, it is very believable.
You must have Dogshit genetics and no dedication if you think that is unatainable.
P.S i know there are alot of "natural bodybuilders" who take drugs, but Layne and Jrod DO NOT, i think Jrod said he used ephedrine when dieting once but that has nothing to do with muscle mass, he says he has not done anything else on the banned substances list in his life!, same goes for Layne, they are lifetime natural, the rumor that Layne used prohormones is BULLSHIT, he has never done any banned substance in his lifetime. the only supplement he uses are aminos/creatine, sorry if that is hard for you pathetic juicers to fathom.
MuscleMcMannus, you are a tiny tit who has to break the law to get any level of mass, you are as bad as Sevastase, fucking pathetic.
Start complaining about your genetic when you can do this...
Listen here you little twat on a stick.......I'd fucking pound you into the little turd that you are. Layne's size has fuck all to do with whether or not he uses steroids. And he may never have touched an anabolic/androgenic steroid in his life but he has used your momma's pussy out of fat burners and prohormones. It has fuck all to do with me......I guarantee you I'm bigger than you lilly teenage ass fuck stick. That's not the point. The point is in the REAL WORLD not in the sleep in till noon, suck off mommy and daddy's tit, and slap off to internet porn world you live in GUYS WILL LIE to make money i.e. Layne Norton. I could give you HUNDREDS of examples of Layne Nortons out there that lie about their natural status to make money.
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MOST steroid users don't even look very muscular.
Yeah, and that's exactly the point. You can't say "the dude's 150 pounds, you think he uses?".
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Listen here you little twat on a stick.......I'd fucking pound you into the little turd that you are. Layne's size has fuck all to do with whether or not he uses steroids. And he may never have touched an anabolic/androgenic steroid in his life but he has used your momma's pussy out of fat burners and prohormones. It has fuck all to do with me......I guarantee you I'm bigger than you lilly teenage ass fuck stick. That's not the point. The point is in the REAL WORLD not in the sleep in till noon, suck off mommy and daddy's tit, and slap off to internet porn world you live in GUYS WILL LIE to make money i.e. Layne Norton. I could give you HUNDREDS of examples of Layne Nortons out there that lie about their natural status to make money.
Good post.
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"musclemcmannus" automatically assumes everyone is juicing because everyone in his gym are stronger and bigger than him.
Hey Maxxfactor it's called being around the game longer than you've been a snot of sperm inside your whore of a mother. I know plenty of guys that are juiced and plenty of guys that are natural and lots of inbetweens. I'm 6'5 and naturally weigh over 200lbs. There are not many guys who are "bigger" than me. I've weighed upwards of 260lbs. I know what it means to be one of the "big boys" in the gym. Even when I'm skinny I'm still bigger than most guys. Lemme guess you and your nob job boyfriend Method101 are probably less than 5'10. Haha fucking losers! You'd get your ass kicked hanging out in a real gym spouting the bullshit you guys spout. Hilarious! Nobody that has been around bodybuilding for any length of time would take anything you clowns say seriously. And real gymrats who can lift serious weight don't post homo ass pictures of themselves on a board full of other dudes in speedo swim trunks like your homo penpal "Jrod".
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3516327422111020106
Look at the video until 1:27 and say he didn't up the dose at that point. ;D
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3516327422111020106
Look at the video until 1:27 and say he didn't up the dose at that point. ;D
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All natural hard work.
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there is a 2 year jump there.
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All natural hard work.
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there is a 2 year jump there.
Yeah but the look, the hardness, everything changed dramatically.
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Why do we at getbig always talk shit about Natural bodybuilders, when we should respect them more than the drug abusing, law breaking IFBB pros. For one, we can compare our physiques far more realistically with theirs than somone taking 1g of test a week.
Don't bother posting about psuedo naturals here like John Hansen/Kyoshi Moody/Jeff Willet/Eric Broser you will be laughed at because they are scumbag liars worse than even IFBB pros.
True Natural bodybuilders, anyone who thinks otherwise must look like utter shit.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne29_12_big.jpg)(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne29_11_big.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o1eJx3E9x64/SgXI9pVkO_I/AAAAAAAAAVA/uIW06s0p9Ro/s400/JR+-+SC+-+19+weeks+out,+5-08-09.JPG)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o1eJx3E9x64/SgXI9o-IHPI/AAAAAAAAAU4/l4mly2t6IFc/s400/JR+-+ST+-+19+weeks+out,+5-08-09.JPG)
those are nto natural bodybuilders,,those are competetive gym rats that compete in natural competitions ,,those are the type of physiqe who use turinabol,,halodrol,,suspension or prop,,masteron ,fina,,growth,,stanozolol,,anavar,,and the list go on and on and on ,,those ar ethe type of fellas that will put heavy HEAVY practice of the use of aromataze inhibitor,,
again BOTH OF THOSE FELLAS USED THE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS I MENTIONED INADDITION TO DIURETICS PRE COMPATITION AND ALONG THE YEAR WHENEVER NEEDED
only thing that doesnt make them hormonized on papaer is that they dont use nandrolone decanoate or very long easter test :D
gh15 approved
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People in this thread are idiots. They are mostly inexperienced people, probably teenagers, who have never even known someone personally who used steroids. This idea that steroid users are all giant hulking behemoths is a fallacy. MOST steroid users are under 200lbs and a lot of them are under 180lbs. MOST steroid users don't even look very muscular. You can't assume that all steroid users look like professional bodybuilders just because professional bodybuilders use steroids.
As far as prohormones go...If they compared to conventional steroids then we would hear about top professional bodybuilders using things like superdrol. We don't. Why? Because they are crap. Case closed.
funny eh? :D,,
after me being here over 5 years some of the fellas here still dotn understand that most of the hormone abusers always stuck at 5'11 192 - 208 lb depending on wether clean or on ,,they never see 220 230
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HAHAHAHAHHA I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BITCH.
Judging by how much size iv gained in 1.5 years training and not 100% effort. There is NO reason i can't get close in overall development to Layne/Jrod at some point in my lifetime, it is very believable.
everyone makes most of their gains early on
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There is too much emphasis on 'staying natural' or 'not cheating' so to speak, the thing is nobody truly gives a shit if you're natural or juiced. The results the same because you have gained muscle which was always your intention ever since you walked into a gym.
Its only other natural competitors (I mean seriously, how many do u actually know?) who complain and whine about steroid users
Natural or Juiced= Muscle mass
Using steroids is an easy way to get huge so take that route instead of going on your PC highhorse thinking you are morally doing the right thing by being natural.
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those are nto natural bodybuilders,,those are competetive gym rats that compete in natural competitions ,,those are the type of physiqe who use turinabol,,halodrol,,suspension or prop,,masteron ,fina,,growth,,stanozolol,,anavar,,and the list go on and on and on ,,those ar ethe type of fellas that will put heavy HEAVY practice of the use of aromataze inhibitor,,
again BOTH OF THOSE FELLAS USED THE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS I MENTIONED INADDITION TO DIURETICS PRE COMPATITION AND ALONG THE YEAR WHENEVER NEEDED
only thing that doesnt make them hormonized on papaer is that they dont use nandrolone decanoate or very long easter test :D
gh15 approved
8) End of story!
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those are nto natural bodybuilders,,those are competetive gym rats that compete in natural competitions ,,those are the type of physiqe who use turinabol,,halodrol,,suspension or prop,,masteron ,fina,,growth,,stanozolol,,anavar,,and the list go on and on and on ,,those ar ethe type of fellas that will put heavy HEAVY practice of the use of aromataze inhibitor,,
again BOTH OF THOSE FELLAS USED THE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS I MENTIONED INADDITION TO DIURETICS PRE COMPATITION AND ALONG THE YEAR WHENEVER NEEDED
only thing that doesnt make them hormonized on papaer is that they dont use nandrolone decanoate or very long easter test :D
gh15 approved
fckn joosers >:( :-*
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would the guys saying jrod is natural FINALLY explain how somebody can build and maintain his phsyqiue on a zero fat diet ::)
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would the guys saying jrod is natural FINALLY explain how somebody can build and maintain his phsyqiue on a zero fat diet ::)
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1.where the fuck does he say hes on zero fat?
2. What the fuck has how much fat you eat got to do with muscle mass. fats are just a secondary source of energy, you can eat carbs tit.
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1.where the fuck does he say hes on zero fat?
2. What the fuck has how much fat you eat got to do with muscle mass. fats are just a secondary source of energy, you can eat carbs tit.
in his diet journals
you need fat for hormone productions idiot ::)
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In all seriousness, let's get down to the real question of this thread...where does Layne buy his bandannas?
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I dedicate this one to Johnnynoname
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/10doutcol.jpg)
I know my hairstyle is shit!
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In all seriousness, let's get down to the real question of this thread...where does Layne buy his bandannas?
Flea Markets are your best bet... seriously
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There is too much emphasis on 'staying natural' or 'not cheating' so to speak, the thing is nobody truly gives a shit if you're natural or juiced. The results the same because you have gained muscle which was always your intention ever since you walked into a gym.
Its only other natural competitors (I mean seriously, how many do u actually know?) who complain and whine about steroid users
Natural or Juiced= Muscle mass
Using steroids is an easy way to get huge so take that route instead of going on your PC highhorse thinking you are morally doing the right thing by being natural.
I wonder if Method sits at his computer with his Extra, Extra Medium "Real Strength Comes From the Heart, Not the Needle!!!" shirt when he posts? Of course since he's 18 he knows everything, will never die, will always be able to pull ass by simply saying "I want to fuck you in the puss" to all the dime pieces, and has undeniable potential because he's only trained for 1.5 years without 100% effort...
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People in this thread are idiots. They are mostly inexperienced people, probably teenagers, who have never even known someone personally who used steroids. This idea that steroid users are all giant hulking behemoths is a fallacy. MOST steroid users are under 200lbs and a lot of them are under 180lbs. MOST steroid users don't even look very muscular. You can't assume that all steroid users look like professional bodybuilders just because professional bodybuilders use steroids.
As far as prohormones go...If they compared to conventional steroids then we would hear about top professional bodybuilders using things like superdrol. We don't. Why? Because they are crap. Case closed.
Most of that is pretty true...I know a few folks at my gym who were pretty small and juiced hard, and were actually relatively weak. Having said that I also knew a couple of bigger guys who were way way stronger who never touched the stuff. I weighed 235 (BF was pretty high maybe 21% plus) and the small dudes flat out refused to believe i was a natty, simply because I always trained in a sweatshirt which made me look even bigger...truth was I was too embarassed to train in anything else since I wasnt that cut.
You can get pretty big natural, just not cut. These other guys tho were all under 200lbs shooting up god knows how much and using GH as well.
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I dedicate this one to Johnnynoname
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/10doutcol.jpg)
I know my hairstyle is shit!
you compete in musclemania. untested org.
your credibility is kinda gone by that. same goes for jrod actually.
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I wonder if Method sits at his computer with his Extra, Extra Medium "Real Strength Comes From the Heart, Not the Needle!!!" shirt when he posts? Of course since he's 18 he knows everything, will never die, will always be able to pull ass by simply saying "I want to fuck you in the puss" to all the dime pieces, and has undeniable potential because he's only trained for 1.5 years without 100% effort...
exactly
Nobody cares how hard u work in the gym because its the muscles that show the results (if u intend to have a bodybuilder physique anyway).
Why climb Mount Everest on foot when u can just take a helicopter?
Because making it harder is the right thing? Based on what and whose ideals?
It means fk all at the end of the day
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it's not the destination that matters, it's the journey.
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exactly
Nobody cares how hard u work in the gym because its the muscles that show the results (if u intend to have a bodybuilder physique anyway).
Why climb Mount Everest on foot when u can just take a helicopter?
Because making it harder is the right thing? Based on what and whose ideals?
It means fk all at the end of the day
No idea how you came to that conclusion, I've never seen the merits of juice...its the hard work and the pump that i do it for. As for your everest allusion...how do you explain those who climbed it without oxygen then??
they did it because people had more respect for them for doing it...who gives to shits if you took a helicopter to everest
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exactly
Nobody cares how hard u work in the gym because its the muscles that show the results (if u intend to have a bodybuilder physique anyway).
Why climb Mount Everest on foot when u can just take a helicopter?
Because making it harder is the right thing? Based on what and whose ideals?
It means fk all at the end of the day
looks like someone missed the whole point/meaning of life in the first place.
Good luck building a career and relationships.
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No idea how you came to that conclusion, I've never seen the merits of juice...its the hard work and the pump that i do it for. As for your everest allusion...how do you explain those who climbed it without oxygen then??
they did it because people had more respect for them for doing it...who gives to shits if you took a helicopter to everest
the everest example was pretty bad, you will recieve respect in doing so
But come on dude, its not like anyone is going to respect the hard work u put in from having a good physique.
They will be impressed with your muscles but not how u got there....especially girls
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the everest example was pretty bad, you will recieve respect in doing so
But come on dude, its not like anyone is going to respect the hard work u put in from having a good physique.
They will be impressed with your muscles but not how u got there....especially girls
The girls bit I agree with...dudes i guess it depends on their outlook on life.
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"Saucetrodomous" ?
Ironic?
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funny eh? :D,,
after me being here over 5 years some of the fellas here still dotn understand that most of the hormone abusers always stuck at 5'11 192 - 208 lb depending on wether clean or on ,,they never see 220 230
So very true. Most guys where i train weigh less than 200 even they have been juicing for a long time.
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Bodybuilding is about muscle ... who cares if you are a natural or user???
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Bodybuilding is about muscle ... who cares if you are a natural or user???
You can ask this from the tens of thousands of bodybuilders who lie about their use.
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I dedicate this one to Johnnynoname
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/10doutcol.jpg)
I know my hairstyle is shit!
anybody remember the movie Labyrinth when david bowie gets jennifer connelly high and sends ther to the house of that junk collector goblin.....anyone think background of this photograph looks identical to that junkyard or is it me ;D ;D
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anybody remember the movie Labyrinth when david bowie gets jennifer connelly high and sends ther to the house of that junk collector goblin.....anyone think background of this photograph looks identical to that junkyard or is it me ;D ;D
haha yeah it does and great movie ;D
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Listen here you little twat on a stick.......I'd fucking pound you into the little turd that you are. Layne's size has fuck all to do with whether or not he uses steroids. And he may never have touched an anabolic/androgenic steroid in his life but he has used your momma's pussy out of fat burners and prohormones. It has fuck all to do with me......I guarantee you I'm bigger than you lilly teenage ass fuck stick. That's not the point. The point is in the REAL WORLD not in the sleep in till noon, suck off mommy and daddy's tit, and slap off to internet porn world you live in GUYS WILL LIE to make money i.e. Layne Norton. I could give you HUNDREDS of examples of Layne Nortons out there that lie about their natural status to make money.
All talk...No pictures. This is your story on getbig.
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I dedicate this one to Johnnynoname
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/10doutcol.jpg)
I know my hairstyle is shit!
why are you posing in front of a junk pile?
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Most of that is pretty true...I know a few folks at my gym who were pretty small and juiced hard, and were actually relatively weak. Having said that I also knew a couple of bigger guys who were way way stronger who never touched the stuff. I weighed 235 (BF was pretty high maybe 21% plus) and the small dudes flat out refused to believe i was a natty, simply because I always trained in a sweatshirt which made me look even bigger...truth was I was too embarassed to train in anything else since I wasnt that cut.
You can get pretty big natural, just not cut. These other guys tho were all under 200lbs shooting up god knows how much and using GH as well.
Check out some of the "Steroid journals" posts on Steroidology or other steroid message boards. 90% of the guys who post there don't even look like they lift weights, let alone use steroids!!!
Simply using steroids doesn't mean you will be muscular or strong or large, and being muscular, strong or large doesn't mean you use steroids.
People, probably all teenagers who really don't lift weights that much and get all of their bodybuilding info from magazines or message boards, on this website assume that most steroid users are massive hulking 250lb bodybuilders, and they assume that anyone with decent size (Like Doug Miller, the guy in the first post) uses steroids.
These people make me sick. They devalue the achievements of others because they are too weak and pathetic to go through the pain and sacrifice necessary to build such physiques. They think that since they can't do it, no one can do it. This is the most pathetic sort of logic.
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I dedicate this one to Johnnynoname
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/10doutcol.jpg)
I know my hairstyle is shit!
Damn great hard legs. 8)
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I don't want to use steroids or any other performance enhancing drug as I am a total wuss about the sides.
The last time I got on a stage, my condition was off, but I looked massive next to the other nattie girls.
I also got drug tested as soon as I got off stage.
There are obvious genetic polymorphic variations in intelligence, height, beauty, speed and agility that most people accept.
Why is it so difficult to accept difference in the amount of muscle people can put on naturally?
I see the lads in my gym training, most don't have a clue as to what they are doing and lift like faeries.
It is hilarious when they test the weight that I was just lifting.
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I don't want to use steroids or any other performance enhancing drug as I am a total wuss about the sides.
The last time I got on a stage, my condition was off, but I looked massive next to the other nattie girls.
I also got drug tested as soon as I got off stage.
There are obvious genetic polymorphic variations in intelligence, height, beauty, speed and agility that most people accept.
Why is it so difficult to accept difference in the amount of muscle people can put on naturally?
I see the lads in my gym training, most don't have a clue as to what they are doing and lift like faeries.
It is hilarious when they test the weight that I was just lifting.
Damn Post your contest pic!! >:(
I am so curious to death!
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Damn Post your contest pic!! >:(
I am so curious to death!
I wouldn't want you to die.
I am blonde in the green bikini.
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I wouldn't want you to die.
I am blonde in the green bikini.
Damn lookin great!
Nice job!
You are carrying serious muscle mass. I always think that the female bber should be natural.
They have the physic which combine mass and feminity.
You are the living proof that muscle dont ruin the feminity.
Again Great job! 8)
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method 101 i ask you this, do you beleive in the falcon?
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method 101 i ask you this, do you beleive in the falcon?
Yes, i believe in the Falcon even though your not lifetime natural right? :-\
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Anyone notice james001 and toxicavenger are still recovering from the ownage they recieved last night? :D
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I dedicate this one to Johnnynoname
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/saucetradomous/10doutcol.jpg)
I know my hairstyle is shit!
your hairstyle is not shit :D
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you compete in musclemania. untested org.
your credibility is kinda gone by that. same goes for jrod actually.
The show I competed in was tested.. Here's a quote from the website
"When the urinalysis drug test results were reported following the recent Musclemania World and America Championships in Las Vegas , a quick analysis showed a surprisingly high number of international competitors had tested positive. It was almost as if some were completely naive that Musclemania World Tour events are promoted as natural, drug free shows or just chose to ignore the rules and cheated their way to the show. Consider that all of the positive tests were competitors from outside North America including every member of Team China !"
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"Saucetrodomous" ?
Ironic?
You're a quick one, can't get anything by you. I've address this already. It's just a nickname
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why are you posing in front of a junk pile?
I pack alot of junk baby.
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You can get pretty big natural, just not cut.
QFT. Naturals have two choices: 160-lb cut twink like Johnnynoname or 260-lb "big and strong" fatass like Quaker Oats. If you're looking to be a cut 200, you need the gear.
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QFT. Naturals have two choices: 160-lb cut twink like Johnnynoname or 260-lb "big and strong" fatass like Quaker Oats. If you're looking to be a cut 200, you need the gear.
Brutal but 100% honest. There are some natural freaks but if you question your genetics for a second then you are also not part of this elite group of freaks. Almost no one is.
Whether you use PEDs or not is a personal choice. PEDs are not cheating but unfortunately some weak
people do abuse them. Fortunately these douchers expose themselves whether they want to or not. They're not miracle drugs, thank goodness.
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PEDs are not cheating
not at all...
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screw natural.. without steroids you wont be big and thats the truth.
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Anyone notice james001 and toxicavenger are still recovering from the ownage they recieved last night? :D
ya know, I just bothered reading some of your posts.. and now I realize you’re a gimmick, troll, creepy guy.. who’s most likely been on this board for years and years, *doing your thing*
That being the case, I kind of like you now.
carry on.
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I pack alot of junk baby.
that was pretty funny ;D
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screw natural.. without steroids you wont be big and thats the truth.
people who want to be "big" at all costs have serious pyshological issues mostly originating from childhood. It's a way to compensate for emotionals traumas or abuses deeply stored into someone's inconscious.
Most people suffering from this arent aware of why they're doing it until it leads to abnormal and anti social behaviors.
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people who want to be "big" at all costs have serious pyshological issues mostly originating from childhood. It's a way to compensate for emotionals traumas or abuses deeply stored into someone's inconscious.
Most people suffering from this arent aware of why they're doing it until it leads to abnormal and anti social behaviors.
you guys seem to have us all pegged......but once again i query.....if you so detest steroids and the culture that surrounds them, and live on a higher mental plane then us emotionally impotent steroids users........ WHY WOULD YOU JOIN A WEBSITE NAMED "G-E-T B-I-G .COM" ::)
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MuscleMania natural.....Bwahahahahah ahaha
good one! ;)
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you guys seem to have us all pegged......but once again i query.....if you so detest steroids and the culture that surrounds them, and live on a higher mental plane then us emotionally impotent steroids users........ WHY WOULD YOU JOIN A WEBSITE NAMED "G-E-T B-I-G .COM" ::)
cause it's a place where smart and non obsessive healthy guys come to rip on insecure obsessive unhealthy losers?
Somehow it's a repeat of your everyday real life , but online.
On a side note, skinny people can become a bit bigger after years of training naturaly, without having to go the "extreme" path. Only a very small percentage of people do that, because they have psychological issues directly linked to their bigorexia.
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cause it's a place where smart and non obsessive healthy guys come to rip on insecure obsessive unhealthy losers?
Somehow it's a repeat of your everyday real life , but online.
translation.....im a vindictive insecure twink who makes fun of jacked dudes to my friends.....while at night i retire to the lonley confines of my moms basement, and sign onto GetBig so i can Ogle musclemen in thongs and curse the cowardice and fear the prevents me from attaining any of my personal fitness goals. ;) ;)
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translation.....im a vindictive insecure twink who makes fun of jacked dudes to my friends.....while at night i retire to the lonley confines of my moms basement, and sign onto GetBig so i can Ogle musclemen in thongs and curse the cowardice and fear the prevents me from attaining any of my personal fitness goals. ;) ;)
that sounds like you.
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screw natural.. without steroids you wont be big and thats the truth.
That just doesn't fit with the standard bell curve distribution of most human parameters, including musculature.
Approximately 15-20% of all men and 10-15% of women can put on a significant amount of muscle without steroids.
To those with the ability to pack on muscle, and those who have a good response to steroids (as there is a four-fold response to steroids, some have a great response, some have very little response at all), add in the PEDs and you have the IFBB pros.
I am sure everyone has one of those naturally big people around them, you know those people, and typically, they don't even train with weights.
If they did, they would be massive.
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That just doesn't fit with the standard bell curve distribution of most human parameters, including musculature.
Approximately 15-20% of all men and 10-15% of women can put on a significant amount of muscle without steroids.
To those with the ability to pack on muscle, and those who have a good response to steroids (as there is a four-fold response to steroids, some have a great response, some have very little response at all), add in the PEDs and you have the IFBB pros.
I am sure everyone has one of those naturally big people around them, you know those people, and typically, they don't even train with weights.
If they did, they would be massive.
i dont know where your getting you "approximates" from.....but here's how it goes.......first off, some people are physiological outliers, at both ends of the spectrum, meaning that there is a very small percentage of people that have a very strong proclivity to put on alot of muscle when they train, and there is a very small percentage of people who are almost complete non-responders and almost no amount of training will put very much muscle mass on them.
but by and large the majority of us fall in the medien between those two catagories, of course there are interpersonal variations....some of us are endomorphs, some of us are ectomorphs, and some of us are mesomorphs.....but the fact of the matter is that muscle mass, alot of muscle mass, is not homeostasis, thus it is not a state the body likes to be in, because alot of energy must be expended to conserve that lean tissue.....and the body ideally likes to minimize energy expenditure and maintain homeostasis
what does all of this mean???......the pictures you posted of yourself.....they are a good example of a female who is an average to a little above average responder to resistance training. without anabolics.....you definatly have more lean mass than a non training female, and less then one using steroids, no matter how hard you train for how many years.....you will not get much bigger than this at all......between contests you will gain and lose weight but it will be mostly fluid from now on.
like one poster said before......without steroids a decent genetic responder can get somewhat big,... conversly....without steroids.....a decent responder can get pretty ripped.........but by and large, for 99% of the population (number higher in american blacks due to historical socio-cultural reasons dealing with the slave trade and resulting 200 years of cross breading among a small population) to be BIG and RIPPED, anabolic androgenic steroids need to be employed. because once again.....being big and ripped is not homeostasis.
not to be arrogant, but i have just ended this argument, and there should really be no more back and forth on this issue........but getbig is nothing if not irrational, so many will disregard my post entirely....and so is the nature of internet forums :) :) :)
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i dont know where your getting you "approximates" from.....but here's how it goes.......first off, some people are physiological outliers, at both ends of the spectrum, meaning that there is a very small percentage of people that have a very strong proclivity to put on alot of muscle when they train, and there is a very small percentage of people who are almost complete non-responders and almost no amount of training will put very much muscle mass on them.
but by and large the majority of us fall in the medien between those two catagories, of course there are interpersonal variations....some of us are endomorphs, some of us are ectomorphs, and some of us are mesomorphs.....but the fact of the matter is that muscle mass, alot of muscle mass, is not homeostasis, thus it is not a state the body likes to be in, because alot of energy must be expended to conserve that lean tissue.....and the body ideally likes to minimize energy expenditure and maintain homeostasis
what does all of this mean???......the pictures you posted of yourself.....they are a good example of a female who is an average to a little above average responder to resistance training. without anabolics.....you definatly have more lean mass than a non training female, and less then one using steroids, no matter how hard you train for how many years.....you will not get much bigger than this at all......between contests you will gain and lose weight but it will be mostly fluid from now on.
like one poster said before......without steroids a decent genetic responder can get somewhat big,... conversly....without steroids.....a decent responder can get pretty ripped.........but by and large, for 99% of the population (number higher in american blacks due to historical socio-cultural reasons dealing with the slave trade and resulting 200 years of cross breading among a small population) to be BIG and RIPPED, anabolic androgenic steroids need to be employed. because once again.....being big and ripped is not homeostasis.
not to be arrogant, but i have just ended this argument, and there should really be no more back and forth on this issue........but getbig is nothing if not irrational, so many will disregard my post entirely....and so is the nature of internet forums :) :) :)
there should be no more argument this is the end of it...
Why would the body store more muscle mass than is needed? its highly metabolically demanding
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You're a quick one, can't get anything by you. I've address this already. It's just a nickname
Yea, so, why is it a nickname? No need to get your blue thong in a twist about it...Why would you expect me to know you've 'addressed' this vitally important issue before ?
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I wouldn't want you to die.
I am blonde in the green bikini.
Yummy mummy :-*
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"musclemcmannus" automatically assumes everyone is juicing because everyone in his gym are stronger and bigger than him.
qft
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MuscleMania natural.....Bwahahahahah ahaha
good one! ;)
Well it was tested so.. not much more I can say. I know there are guys who get around it but like I quoted earlier, Everyone from team Asia was disqualified in Vegas last year.
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cause it's a place where smart and non obsessive healthy guys come to rip on insecure obsessive unhealthy losers?
it's funny how the most insecure people are always quick to call others insecure
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........ WHY WOULD YOU JOIN A WEBSITE NAMED "G-E-T B-I-G .COM" ::)
When I joined, I mistakenly thought it was a site for followers of the sport of competitive eating. This misconception was furthered after I saw a pic of the site owner. ;D
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qft
STFU DonkeyCock. You are one of the biggest losers on this board. Always talking shit. The annoying funny guy who just won't shut up after a while and ends up getting on everyone's nerves and eventually gets his lilly ass kicked at the end of the night.
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I stay natural because i already have close to pro size naturally.......
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donkeykong and goatboy = one person to me
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STFU DonkeyCock. You are one of the biggest losers on this board. Always talking shit. The annoying funny guy who just won't shut up after a while and ends up getting on everyone's nerves and eventually gets his lilly ass kicked at the end of the night.
should i cry now? ::) ::)
donkeykong and goatboy = one person to me
goatboy feels like my lost twin brother to me.
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people who want to be "big" at all costs have serious pyshological issues mostly originating from childhood. It's a way to compensate for emotionals traumas or abuses deeply stored into someone's inconscious.
Most people suffering from this arent aware of why they're doing it until it leads to abnormal and anti social behaviors.
Quoted for the "truth"...... :(
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STFU DonkeyCock. You are one of the biggest losers on this board. Always talking shit. The annoying funny guy who just won't shut up after a while and ends up getting on everyone's nerves and eventually gets his lilly ass kicked at the end of the night.
Kill yourself Juicer.
Woops you already are.
P.s - Donkey Kong is a legend you just fail at everything.
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Kill yourself Juicer.
Woops you already are.
P.s - Donkey Kong is a legend you just fail at everything.
lol, don't be so hard on Musclemyanus. He is just jealous at everyone because even Sevastase looks better after 6 weeks of 2g Test.
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people who want to be "big" at all costs have serious pyshological issues mostly originating from childhood. It's a way to compensate for emotionals traumas or abuses deeply stored into someone's inconscious.
Most people suffering from this arent aware of why they're doing it until it leads to abnormal and anti social behaviors.
Bodybuilding is a niche sport/activity/lifestyle or whatever you want to call it. The ones who juice are not unaware of the risks. You make it sound like a deadly game of Russian roulette, dude. Brutal fear mongering and epic resent for something of which you have no knowledge about.
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Bodybuilding is a niche sport/activity/lifestyle or whatever you want to call it. The ones who juice are not unaware of the risks. You make it sound like a deadly game of Russian roulette, dude. Brutal fear mongering and epic resent for something of which you have no knowledge about.
Actually taking UG lab steroids or not legit pharmaceuticals IS russian roulette.
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I stay natural because i already have close to pro size weight naturally.......
fixed ;D
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Well it was tested so.. not much more I can say. I know there are guys who get around it but like I quoted earlier, Everyone from team Asia was disqualified in Vegas last year.
Yeah, and I know a guy who was too. But the guy in front of him wasn't natural either and hasn't been disqualified. If you know how to do it, you will pass with no much trouble their "drug test".
But hey, it's not a big deal and every one don't care if you are or are not. It's just a matter of honesty.
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Bodybuilding is a niche sport/activity/lifestyle or whatever you want to call it. The ones who juice are not unaware of the risks. You make it sound like a deadly game of Russian roulette, dude. Brutal fear mongering and epic resent for something of which you have no knowledge about.
LOL, yeah..those few pimples I've gotten from using test over the years are deadly...and that other horrible side effect, sex drive x 5 when on test ;)
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LOL, yeah..those few pimples I've gotten from using test over the years are deadly...and that other horrible side effect, sex drive x 5 when on test ;)
My skin is really smooth, especially since shaving my head, eating better and hydrating properly. On gear it's surprisingly MUCH clearer, but I get RANDOM zits on cycle. One time I got one on my upper cheek which I found odd, one on my elbow and another on my leg. They weren't ingrown hairs, and fortunately were very small and popped easily leaving no mark.
Aside from that, I get no bad sides either. I just can't tolerate orals, but fuck orals anyway. BP stays good, cardio and cholesterol are good, kidneys are good, everything is hunky dory. My only problem now is that I haven't been on juice for almost a year - feels like a damn eternity! :)
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All this fighting about natural or not, who cares? I don't think it is important to stay natural if you can make LONG term gains on juice, for example I see nothing wrong with juicing to your natural limit and trying to maintain that. The analogy would be, working 20 years to make a million € or getting it in a few months and I think few people would argue they would prefer to work 20 years for that.
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All this fighting about natural or not, who cares? I don't think it is important to stay natural if you can make LONG term gains on juice, for example I see nothing wrong with juicing to your natural limit and trying to maintain that. The analogy would be, working 20 years to make a million € or getting it in a few months and I think few people would argue they would prefer to work 20 years for that.
whatever you gain short term with juice is lost, even if you haven't surpassed your natural limit.
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Actually taking UG lab steroids or not legit pharmaceuticals IS russian roulette.
don't you think thats a bit of a stretch? UG labs are dubious, but russian roulette is 1/6 chance of killing yourself.
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whatever you gain short term with juice is lost, even if you haven't surpassed your natural limit.
Hell no, not true at all.. you keep a little from every cycle, it may be 2-3 lbs. but it's lean muscle mass which accumulates over time.
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don't you think thats a bit of a stretch? UG labs are dubious, but russian roulette is 1/6 chance of killing yourself.
Well, actually you're right, because ALL underground labs produce under hideous conditions, far from pharmaceutical standards.
So the chance of NOT getting what you want with a UG lab is 1/1.
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don't you think thats a bit of a stretch? UG labs are dubious, but russian roulette is 1/6 chance of killing yourself.
QFT....maybe just 'a little' stretch....lol
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QFT....maybe just 'a little' stretch....lol
Actually it isn't.
UG labs = dirtier than a restaurant kitchen.
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(http://www.forbodybuilders.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/steroids-axio-laboratory.jpg)
http://www.forbodybuilders.net/2009/05/to-ug-or-not-ug-on-the-safety-of-underground-labs/
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(http://www.forbodybuilders.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/steroids-axio-laboratory.jpg)
http://www.forbodybuilders.net/2009/05/to-ug-or-not-ug-on-the-safety-of-underground-labs/
Hey dumbass that first pic is a meth lab not a steroid lab.
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isnt that the same
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Actually it isn't.
UG labs = dirtier than a restaurant kitchen.
what would you know?
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what would you know?
Maybe he has some common sense and logic. ::)
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Actually it isn't.
UG labs = dirtier than a restaurant kitchen.
god there is so much fear on this board, and besides that picture......how many under ground labs have you actually been in......and personally, i dont find anything wrong with that picture.......its a clandestine lab with alot of beakers and solvents around that probably produced alot of yummy gear that made all kinds of dudes happy........what do you expect......a big storefront with old bald guys in labs coats walking in and out and a sign that says "STEROID LABORATORY"
like many dudes, the first couple years me and my friends were on steroids consisted of taking the shittiest, cheapest, dirtiest, mexican "vet" gear my shady supplier had to offer........and you know what happened ??? ??? ???
we all grew like weeds and got really fucking jacked.......i never had a pimple, an abcess, or even an undesired hair sprout from any of it.....aside from some backne in some of my more genetically-oilly skined friends......nothing ever happened.....and i know dozens of guy that take gear.
i guess it boils down to the fact that people make a big deal out of what they do not understand.
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I never had any problem with UG ...
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Hey dumbass that first pic is a meth lab not a steroid lab.
oh really? Then William Llewellyn is mistaken it for AXIO? ::)
god there is so much fear on this board, and besides that picture......how many under ground labs have you actually been in......and personally, i dont find anything wrong with that picture.......its a clandestine lab with alot of beakers and solvents around that probably produced alot of yummy gear that made all kinds of dudes happy........what do you expect......a big storefront with old bald guys in labs coats walking in and out and a sign that says "STEROID LABORATORY"
like many dudes, the first couple years me and my friends were on steroids consisted of taking the shittiest, cheapest, dirtiest, mexican "vet" gear my shady supplier had to offer........and you know what happened ??? ??? ???
we all grew like weeds and got really fucking jacked.......i never had a pimple, an abcess, or even an undesired hair sprout from any of it.....aside from some backne in some of my more genetically-oilly skined friends......nothing ever happened.....and i know dozens of guy that take gear.
i guess it boils down to the fact that people make a big deal out of what they do not understand.
meltdown. Damn you juicers are pathetic at times.
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My drug of choice is love.
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oh really? Then William Llewellyn is mistaken it for AXIO? ::)
meltdown. Damn you juicers are pathetic at times.
you got me.....total meltdown ;) ;)
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you got me.....total meltdown ;) ;)
sorry, but it's so foreseeable.
You say steroids/UG labs/PH are bad and some junkie will meltdown several paragraphs on how homo naturals are and that injecting synthetic hormones into your ass is the healthiest thing a human being can do.
It's getting lame.
Why can't you people just not accept that steroids from UG labs are 100% NOT in pharmaceutical quality and thus 100% of UG lab steroids have a high cance to create some sort of health issues.
I don't give a fuck if you juice or not, or if you don't get pimples, just be a man and admit it's dangerous. You just have been lucky until now, or maybe not. You cannot know, maybe you injected little traces of fertilizer every time and will develop cancer some day because of UG lab steroids, maybe you don't.
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i would never say that naturals are "homos"........frankly i could give shit what anyone else does......hopefully whatever an individual chooses to do, it makes them happy. but on the same token, if some guy who has no experience with anabolics keeps redundantly prostelatizing about a subject they know very little about, and much of the knowledge they do possess has been perverted by a fearmongering agenda-driven media........im going to state my opinion about it. its been said many times, too many times, but anything when not done in moderation becomes a negative thing.....whether its, smoking, sex, drinking, juicing, GetBigging, eating, reading, ect.
other than that, everyone should do whatever the fuck makes them happy, within reason of course......and everyone else should basically shut the fuck up about it
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All I know is that the Man of Steel might possibly be a member of Team Insane Genetics.
THG approved
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All I know is that the Man of Steel might possibly be a member of Team Insane Genetics.
THG approved
Hes that guy you always pondered their existance... you know that naturally huge thick muscled guy that could rival pro mass.
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Why would u trust something u inject in your body that was made in a basement. When it comes to $$$$, people don't give a shit about your health
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Why would u trust something u inject in your body that was made in a basement. When it comes to $$$$, people don't give a shit about your health
qft.
I wonder how many UG labs produce steroids in the same bathtub they bathe their dogs in.
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I'm loading up a needle with test,eq,and heroin as we speak 8)
...if my posts start to sound loopy as the day goes on you guys no why.
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qft.
I wonder how many UG labs produce steroids in the same bathtub they bathe their dogs in.
The UG labs want good reputation to sell more stuff, that's why they try to keep it clean and good.
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The UG labs want good reputation to sell more stuff, that's why they try to keep it clean and good.
hahahaha, yeah sure.
If i was using UG lab steroids, i would tell that to myself ed as well.
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hahahaha, yeah sure.
If i was using UG lab steroids, i would tell that to myself ed as well.
exactly---- it's the guys who never go off juice and will use whatever they can get their hands on. Some people are experts at decieving themselves
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The real issue at hand is Method's fear of needles.
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hahahaha, yeah sure.
If i was using UG lab steroids, i would tell that to myself ed as well.
Anyhow, never got problem from it ... if it was as bad as you say, my butt would have gotten infected...
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oh really? Then William Llewellyn is mistaken it for AXIO? ::)
Huh? Speak english!
I don't know what Bill thinks but that is not a UG steroid lab. It's a fucking meth lab. None of that equipment in the picture is necessary to make UG steroids. LMAO! You probably know fuck all about homebrewing if you think that is a steroid lab. It's propoganda and even Bill himself is guilty of it. He still thinks Balkan Pharmaceuticals is a legit first rate pharmaceutical company because they have a government issued license from "Moldova". LMAO! He's fallible like anyone else.
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ALL DRUGS.
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They're juice guys"
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got er' on the third try there did we :)
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One more for fun :-)
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god there is so much fear on this board, and besides that picture......how many under ground labs have you actually been in......and personally, i dont find anything wrong with that picture.......its a clandestine lab with alot of beakers and solvents around that probably produced alot of yummy gear that made all kinds of dudes happy........what do you expect......a big storefront with old bald guys in labs coats walking in and out and a sign that says "STEROID LABORATORY"
like many dudes, the first couple years me and my friends were on steroids consisted of taking the shittiest, cheapest, dirtiest, mexican "vet" gear my shady supplier had to offer........and you know what happened ??? ??? ???
we all grew like weeds and got really fucking jacked.......i never had a pimple, an abcess, or even an undesired hair sprout from any of it.....aside from some backne in some of my more genetically-oilly skined friends......nothing ever happened.....and i know dozens of guy that take gear.
i guess it boils down to the fact that people make a big deal out of what they do not understand.
That is the thing with steroids. You "grow like a weed" and as fast as weeds grow...They die just as fast!
I'd rather grow like a TREE. Slow and steady over years and years and actually be able to live past 45!
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That is the thing with steroids. You "grow like a weed" and as fast as weeds grow...They die just as fast!
I'd rather grow like a TREE. Slow and steady over years and years and actually be able to live past 45!
lol, you weigh a 145 pounds old man...WTF are you talking about???
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That is the thing with steroids. You "grow like a weed" and as fast as weeds grow...They die just as fast!
I'd rather grow like a TREE. Slow and steady over years and years and actually be able to live past 45!
i can respect that, you are entitled to grow at whatever rate and to whatever degree of risk that pleases you.......but there are alot of things that are perfectly legal that will kill you alot faster then responsible and moderate steroid usage
reasonable doses with proper off-periods will in most cases prolong your life
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lol, you weigh a 145 pounds old man...WTF are you talking about???
I'm about 160 right now at 6'1". Without steroids it is basically impossible to keep a bulging physique if you're over 65 years old. I can run a mile in 7 minutes and I can benchpress 245lbs.
Bodybuild the RIGHT way and you'll be able to actually live past 45 years of age and you will have health into your 60s and 70s.
Bodybuilding the RIGHT way is a path to HEALTH, VITALITY, LONGEVITY, STRENGTH and FITNESS.
Bodybuilding the WRONG way is a path to BULGING BELLIES, HEART TROUBLE, KIDNEY FAILURE, ASYMMETRICAL MUSCLES, SICKNESS and DEATH!
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6'1 160 means u never built shit.
What you are talking about is called 'EXERCISING'.
'Bodybuilding' refers to the development of muscle, you are talking about working out.
See the difference?
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I'm about 160 right now at 6'1". Without steroids it is basically impossible to keep a bulging physique if you're over 65 years old. I can run a mile in 7 minutes and I can benchpress 245lbs.
Bodybuild the RIGHT way and you'll be able to actually live past 45 years of age and you will have health into your 60s and 70s.
Bodybuilding the RIGHT way is a path to HEALTH, VITALITY, LONGEVITY, STRENGTH and FITNESS.
Bodybuilding the WRONG way is a path to BULGING BELLIES, HEART TROUBLE, KIDNEY FAILURE, ASYMMETRICAL MUSCLES, SICKNESS and DEATH!
4" partial ROM on the 245 bench press
and bullshit on the 7 minute mile as well
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I'm about 160 right now at 6'1". Without steroids it is basically impossible to keep a bulging physique if you're over 65 years old. I can run a mile in 7 minutes and I can benchpress 245lbs.
Bodybuild the RIGHT way and you'll be able to actually live past 45 years of age and you will have health into your 60s and 70s.
Bodybuilding the RIGHT way is a path to HEALTH, VITALITY, LONGEVITY, STRENGTH and FITNESS.
Bodybuilding the WRONG way is a path to BULGING BELLIES, HEART TROUBLE, KIDNEY FAILURE, ASYMMETRICAL MUSCLES, SICKNESS and DEATH!
oh......now i get it......bodybuilding the "right" way = bodybuilding liberalismo's way
and we all know liberalismo is the be-all-end-all of a vast array of physcials subdiscilpines such a bodybuilding, boichemistry, and gerontology
man.....you stance on health and fitness is almost as warped as your politics :) :) :)
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Bodybuilding the right way is the Steve Reeves way, In my opinion.
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Bodybuilding the right way is the Steve Reeves way, In my opinion.
steve reeves wouldnt be shit today ---------- all this natural aesthetics shit is gone in bodybuilding, YES it did exist but is GONE now and you can thank IFBB, RObert Kennedy, and Weider for producing magazines that people will by ONLY because some HUGE fck is one the front
steve reeves didnt make NOxplod what it is it was RON COLEMAN who did, all over the BSN shit after olympia won many times......steve reeves would sell any hardcore supplement today, maybe a pack of vitamins MAYBE
it is not the 1960s anymore........steroids of part of bodybuilding in the mainstream now, you have to go mainstream to make any money with it..........anything else is just self-gratification and vanity = natural bodybuidling
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steve reeves wouldnt be shit today ---------- all this natural aesthetics shit is gone in bodybuilding, YES it did exist but is GONE now and you can thank IFBB, RObert Kennedy, and Weider for producing magazines that people will by ONLY because some HUGE fck is one the front
steve reeves didnt make NOxplod what it is it was RON COLEMAN who did, all over the BSN shit after olympia won many times......steve reeves would sell any hardcore supplement today, maybe a pack of vitamins MAYBE
it is not the 1960s anymore........steroids of part of bodybuilding in the mainstream now, you have to go mainstream to make any money with it..........anything else is just self-gratification and vanity = natural bodybuidling
meltdown.
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steve reeves wouldnt be shit today ---------- all this natural aesthetics shit is gone in bodybuilding, YES it did exist but is GONE now and you can thank IFBB, RObert Kennedy, and Weider for producing magazines that people will by ONLY because some HUGE fck is one the front
steve reeves didnt make NOxplod what it is it was RON COLEMAN who did, all over the BSN shit after olympia won many times......steve reeves would sell any hardcore supplement today, maybe a pack of vitamins MAYBE
it is not the 1960s anymore........steroids of part of bodybuilding in the mainstream now, you have to go mainstream to make any money with it..........anything else is just self-gratification and vanity = natural bodybuidling
Has nothing to do with money.
99% of bodybuilders..Probably 99.999% of bodybuilders do not make money from bodybuilding. Most Pros don't even make much money.
In the end it is all about health, fitness, longevity. If you're pumping yourself full of steroids and growing balloon muscles that deflate once you stop the juice then you probably aren't healthy, probably aren't fit and probably won't live long.
I doubt that Steve would even compete if he had lived his youth today. He would probably be some fitness guru or something like that...Like Lalayne.
For the people who aren't trying to chase a pipe dream of being Mr. Olympia...Aesthetics is important.
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Has nothing to do with money.
99% of bodybuilders..Probably 99.999% of bodybuilders do not make money from bodybuilding. Most Pros don't even make much money.
In the end it is all about health, fitness, longevity. If you're pumping yourself full of steroids and growing balloon muscles that deflate once you stop the juice then you probably aren't healthy, probably aren't fit and probably won't live long.
I doubt that Steve would even compete if he had lived his youth today. He would probably be some fitness guru or something like that...Like Lalayne.
For the people who aren't trying to chase a pipe dream of being Mr. Olympia...Aesthetics is important.
1 week later meltdown
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We are sopposed to be doing this for our health? ;D
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We are sopposed to be doing this for our health? ;D
It is your decision.
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Juice is delicious.
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Juice is delicious.
Roid rage :o
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Has nothing to do with money.
99% of bodybuilders..Probably 99.999% of bodybuilders do not make money from bodybuilding. Most Pros don't even make much money.
In the end it is all about health, fitness, longevity. If you're pumping yourself full of steroids and growing balloon muscles that deflate once you stop the juice then you probably aren't healthy, probably aren't fit and probably won't live long.
I doubt that Steve would even compete if he had lived his youth today. He would probably be some fitness guru or something like that...Like Lalayne.
For the people who aren't trying to chase a pipe dream of being Mr. Olympia...Aesthetics is important.
aesthetics and not making money is self gratification/masturbation and vanity
Reeves would be pedeling P90x DvDs door to door if he was in the game today......fuck if anyone would listen to him except maybe a small following of 10-12 clients at a local gym
there are 20,000 steve reeves walking around today...........anyone who takes a few good cycles can look like him
fitness guru = someone out to MAKE MONEY OFF BODYBUILDING, get your shit right
steve reeves is just a someone with lines which every gym in america has at least one steve reeves = dime a dozen
if tony horton of p90x fame ate a few dbol = steve reeves
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Huh? Speak english!
I don't know what Bill thinks but that is not a UG steroid lab. It's a fucking meth lab. None of that equipment in the picture is necessary to make UG steroids. LMAO! You probably know fuck all about homebrewing if you think that is a steroid lab. It's propoganda and even Bill himself is guilty of it. He still thinks Balkan Pharmaceuticals is a legit first rate pharmaceutical company because they have a government issued license from "Moldova". LMAO! He's fallible like anyone else.
I said that Balkan is a registered manufacturer in Moldova. That is all I said. I never said they were "a legit first rate pharmaceutical company".
Stop putting words in my mouth.
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Oh geez, here comes Jack La lane and Charles Atlas...
'he threw sand in my face!"
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I said that Balkan is a registered manufacturer in Moldova. That is all I said. I never said they were "a legit first rate pharmaceutical company".
Stop putting words in my mouth.
What's the difference Bill? Registered GMP certified manufacturer vs. a legit first rate pharmaceutical company? Are you splitting hairs? Didnt you guys over at BOS advertise for them at one time as well?
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change your life now before it's to late. Delete your myspace account, burn all your guido clothes, ditch the psuedo intellectual, arrogant persona and stop flexing your biceps while pointing at a piece of your artwork with the camera on 10 seconds timer because you can't get anyone in real life who can keep a straight face to take a picture of you doing a biceps pose at your pictures. Also, the pathetic attempts at acting "alpha" when everytime sombody posts a picture of a woman who is remotely attractive it is followed up by you going on a story about how you would like to "insert various sexual act here" with her.
Tbomz, iv posted pictures 1 time before, if you want to see them badly enough find them. I admit i look like shit, but not as bad as James who thinks hes good enough to put that picture as his avatar.
Boom
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God damn, that arm is so big and pale...........it's gotta be Wolf's, right?
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God damn, that arm is so big and pale...........it's gotta be Wolf's, right?
Nope thats our very own HOOOOOOGGGGEEEEE Celltech abuser Method101
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Nope thats our very own HOOOOOOGGGGEEEEE Celltech abuser Method101
Crazy...
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What's the difference Bill? Registered GMP certified manufacturer vs. a legit first rate pharmaceutical company? Are you splitting hairs? Didnt you guys over at BOS advertise for them at one time as well?
Not much if I said that, but I never said "Registered GMP" or "Legit first rate". You are still putting words in my mouth. I said "registered" only, which means exactly that. They are registered. What it means as far as FDA oversight to be registered in Moldova I couldn't tell you.
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It has been discovered that hormones dries up and shrinks the brain just like alcohol and aging does! The most important organ in the body!
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It has been discovered that hormones dries up and shrinks the brain just like alcohol and aging does! The most important organ in the body!
so you are saying that we should get rid of all hormones now? ::)
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Don't let these kids get your goat. Your preaching the gospel of real physical culture. 90% of these kids on this board couldn't run a 7 minute mile. They all deflate without the drugs. Many of them are really fat and delusional when they look in the mirror. Keep training hard and I'm sure there are a few who are smart enough to take your advice. The rest are knuckle heads.
I'm about 160 right now at 6'1". Without steroids it is basically impossible to keep a bulging physique if you're over 65 years old. I can run a mile in 7 minutes and I can benchpress 245lbs.
Bodybuild the RIGHT way and you'll be able to actually live past 45 years of age and you will have health into your 60s and 70s.
Bodybuilding the RIGHT way is a path to HEALTH, VITALITY, LONGEVITY, STRENGTH and FITNESS.
Bodybuilding the WRONG way is a path to BULGING BELLIES, HEART TROUBLE, KIDNEY FAILURE, ASYMMETRICAL MUSCLES, SICKNESS and DEATH!
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Some people do, Layne doesn't.
And Pro hormones. Or even "legal steroids" are NOT anywhere near as powerful as conventional steroids. That is a joke. The side effects are more powerful, but as far as muscle mass goes..NO pro-hormone or legal steroid could ever compare to even D-bol.
I'm so sick of people trying to minimize the achievements of others because they themselves can not achieve them.
you have no idea what you are talking about, everything you talk about is wrong. What drugs that were oOTC WE NOT as strong as dbol, i mean M1T was over the counter that is lightyears stronger then dbol.
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I'm natural.
Fuck natural.
I like that. ;D
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Good ole' Method101............... .anybody hear from him, or do you really think he is gone "for good"...........he was really melting alot towards the end there.........another Getbig casualty.
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Good ole' Method101............... .anybody hear from him, or do you really think he is gone "for good"...........he was really melting alot towards the end there.........another Getbig casualty.
Overdosed on Celltech. He won't recover. PIP
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Overdosed on Celltech. He won't recover. PIP
oh dear.........i was afraid that was going to happen.......he kept mentioning that he was just a few cell-tech's away from taking on the entire top-echelon of the NPC.
poor little dude ??? ???
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oh dear.........i was afraid that was going to happen.......he kept mentioning that he was just a few cell-tech's away from taking on the entire top-echelon of the NPC.
poor little dude ??? ???
Its a shame what these guys go through for the thong.
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"Designer steroids"? Which one's? Some designer steroids are legal, most aren't. Even THG is banned.
What is more potent than anavar or dbol? Superdrol? Bullshit.
The point I'm making, most of the so called "legal steroids" on the market today are worthless. Someone who has used these things briefly and made no gains from them is, for all intents and purposes, natural. The whole point is that they built their physique without steroids, and if "prohormones/legal steroids" that they took briefly contributed either nothing or very little to their physiques then it is all the same.
I did a cycle of Superdrol/Phera Plex last year. I did get a lot stronger and gained about 8 lbs. Within a few months of taking it I was pretty much back to my normal weight and you could never tell I'd taken it at all. Like I said, I did see some really good strength gains. It works but it's definitely not the answer to your bodybuilding dreams. IMHO
Pat