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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: epic_alien on May 31, 2010, 02:37:52 AM
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I think its time get big steps up and gives this man some support. he is trying to transform himself back into shape and he needs all the guys here who have all enjoyed his stories and input about sports and bodybuilding.
i think we can all help him get the ball rolling get big style
i have some revolutionary diet techniques id like to unveil during this monumental process. so keith,, lets roll
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noworries = top tier owner of frauds and phonies. The best friend you can have. The worse enemy you can have.
We love you, brother.
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I think its time get big steps up and gives this man some support. he is trying to transform himself back into shape and he needs all the guys here who have all enjoyed his stories and input about sports and bodybuilding.
i think we can all help him get the ball rolling get big style
i have some revolutionary diet techniques id like to unveil during this monumental process. so keith,, lets roll
LMAO!! He has been saying that since i joined here in 2005 or so. All he did since then was getting even fatter and fatter and he would meltdown faster the fatter he got.
Seems that he understood the get big in getbig.com wrong.
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He'll make it.
Maybe he needs a special tonic which can only be found in Japan...?
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well its time he gets it done,,
this will be his picture transformation thread!!
once a month he can post a pic of his progress and we can rejoice in his progress and his can stop living in 1985.
lets help him get back on his feet!!!
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He'll make it.
Maybe he needs a special tonic which can only be found in Japan...?
I suggest the Levrone formula, that stuff is amazing... ::) ::) ::)
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Good Luck Keith
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If you want to help Keith then lay off the diet advices.
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Keith good luck getting back into shape, I'm sure Goodrum will have some advice for you.
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If you want to help Keith then lay off the diet advices.
exactly just eat clean and exercise. Its not rocket science. Remember my story Keith, I know how hard it is..Noone knows about what your going through than me. Ill be rooting for ya
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. Ill be rooting for ya
Pics ? ;D
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Pics ? ;D
of what..wait in your case Im scared to ask lol
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of what..wait in your case Im scared to ask lol
Do you not know what "rooting" is ???
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Do you not know what "rooting" is ???
um nope..
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um nope..
Slang for sexual intercourse >:(
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Slang for sexual intercourse >:(
so it should be better if I told Keith..Ill be cheering for you..
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so it should be better if I told Keith..Ill be cheering for you..
No, cos im looking forward to your pics now :D
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Thats some funny shit right there ;D
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No, cos im looking forward to your pics now :D
bawawa they are posted on here
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I had steroid like gains on the Levrone Formula, the other supplements I was taking were testosterone, deca and dianabol.
LMAO!!!
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Keith good luck getting back into shape, I'm sure Goodrum will have some advice for you.
If he gets this when it comes out this Fall, he'll be able to get himself in shape in no time. This device may actually put some personal trainers out of business. I can honestly say that it is truly the future of exercise. I intend on pre-ordering one for myself when it comes out
(http://cdn.content.easports.com/alfresco/service/eaapi/node/content/avm/easportscom/-1;www;avm_webapps;ROOT;;_assets;en_US;Active;01_EAS_ACTIVE2_News.jpg)
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Here we go...................... ........................ ........... ::) ??? :o ;D
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Here we go...................... ........................ ........... ::) ??? :o ;D
Obviously, you have no idea what this thing can do and that's ok because you're too set in your ways to think outside the box.
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Thnak for the support guys. I have been saying it for years I am going to do it and I have tried it several times and then get sick or something then I start over. I don't quit but there are just times I can't do it I am just to sick. I am actually feeling great right now just a little swollen leg but other than that pretty good. I am working on it. I am really hoping by Olympia I should be good enough to go and let people see me. I am up and about everyday. Walking mostly. Just taking it easy and slow cause I don't want to get sick again. Last time was in March with pnemonia and hypoxia. All that is better. Of course since I went to the hospital I had to have something go wrong so they gave me a slight case of cellulitis in my right hand where they took blood. That swelled my hand up so much I couldn't bend my fingers. That is almost all better. Everything is back to normal except two fingers I can't bend all the way but most of the way. I know it sounds like excuses and anyone who knows me knows I can play through pain and this kind of shit never stopped me before. But, it appears this age shit affects me a little more than I thought. So I am taking it easy and slow so nothing else goes wrong until I get back into shape. The haters can keep saying shit and I do listen but I can't afford to get really sick. So a snail's pace is what I am going at then once things turn around I will be fine nothing will stop me., Thanks again. One thing is at least financially I am doing great again and it is getting better everyday.
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I think its time get big steps up and gives this man some support. he is trying to transform himself back into shape and he needs all the guys here who have all enjoyed his stories and input about sports and bodybuilding.
i think we can all help him get the ball rolling get big style
i have some revolutionary diet techniques id like to unveil during this monumental process. so keith,, lets roll
Dude hasnt done shit to lose weight.
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I suggest the Levrone formula, that stuff is amazing... ::) ::) ::)
I was thinking more of some pulverized Tiger noodle and shriveled elephant ballsacks. Also an additional whale penis breakfast provides increased healing capability.
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Dude hasnt done shit to lose weight.
I actually dropped over 100 pounds in about 6 months after my hospital stay at Christmas in 2006. My calf swelled so big and it would'nt go down. I move around pretty good considering. My right ankle gives me the most problems. In fact all my problems I usually have are in the right leg. I just need to control the swelling then I can move great. I don't hobbled or anything it just is stiff.
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Keith is a good guy... I support you Keith!
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I actually dropped over 100 pounds in about 6 months after my hospital stay at Christmas in 2006. My calf swelled so big and it would'nt go down. I move around pretty good considering. My right ankle gives me the most problems. In fact all my problems I usually have are in the right leg. I just need to control the swelling then I can move great. I don't hobbled or anything it just is stiff.
Wow good work man. Stop blaming the spider tho.
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Keith do you know you don't have to work out to lose weight ?
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Wow good work man. Stop blaming the spider tho.
I don't blame the spider. I gained weight because I ate and didn't train. But, the reason I couldn't train was because of the effects from the bite. You have no idea what happened. I went from training twice a day and being in my best shape (especially cardio wise) to not being able to walk at all and crawling on my hands and knees in my condo. I know I could have prevented the extreme weight gain by dieting and not eating but I didn't and I am paying for it now and have been for the past ten years. I weighed 293 when I got bit. My highest weight ever was 563. I got down to 465. I would say I 500 to 510 now. I could be in the 490's but doubt it. I feel better walking like I was lighter but it could be because my legs are getting stronger. My goal would be to get back to 300 or under. My ultimate goal was 275. It would be hard for me to get under that I think. My bone structure and muscle density is just to thick. I know once I see some change I will be doing fine.
Keith do you know you don't have to work out to lose weight ?
Yes I know that. but, I have been lifting weights since 1973 it is something I loved and did more than just about anyone on here. I like the feeling of lifting and I like the strength I got from it. Lifting weights brought me alot of attention and made me some very good money. So I love the gym. Cardio at the gym is the worst thing I could think of. I got my cardio from riding my bike 20+ miles a day and then I would do just 20 minutes on the each of the stepper, treadmill and recumbant bike. Dieting is the most important thing and I know that. but it is also the hardest for me. I never really had to diet or watch what I ate because I burned most of it off. I am working on slowly changing my eating habits. Not as much shit but I still eat some.
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Keith`s a good guy who has led a very interesting life.
I love reading his stories about his experiences.
Good luck Keith! :)
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My ultimate goal was 275. It would be hard for me to get under that I think. My bone structure and muscle density is just to thick.
I like you Keith but C'mon man.
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You have my support.
Too heavy, for too long, will kill you.
Do it slowly, baby steps in the right direction.
For your health and peace of mind stay on track.
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Let the haters fuel you, Keith.
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Most of your ailments are due to your massive weight. You need to start a 1200 calorie restricted diet, with a nutritionist. You also do qualify for gastric bypass, which could svae your life. If you don't take dramatic changes in your life, you will pass away in 5 years, and that will be a shame. Look at yourself in the mirror, and if you are ready to die, keep doing what you are doing, you will be there soon enough. I highly encourage you to change your life. I have seen patients much worse than you get better.
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I've known Keith for years and have done business with him. He does know a lot of people in Hollywood and has lived an interesting life! That spider bite did set him back (as it would anyone) but Keith is genuine in his desire to get back in shape. In my opinion Keith is honest and honorable and I consider him a good friend.
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Keith, you need consistency, not intensity. That may be challenging for an old strength athlete like you.
Also, I don't know you, but maybe you relate to food like an addict. Or maybe it distracts you from feelings of boredom, unhappiness, loss of identity, or of lacking control of your life. Addressing the underlying cause of your overeating with a mental health doc or addiction professional might be something to consider.
This thread was perhaps started as a mean spirited joke but there are lots of us who want you to succeed. You accomplished a lot in your youth. Just imagine what you could do with the benefit of the wisdom and strength of character you have gained. Make it happen!
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When keith Finally makes a
"BOOM IM BACK!"
thread with photos, it might just beat the hulkster thread.
that should be enough motivation lol.
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exactly just eat clean and exercise. Its not rocket science. Remember my story Keith, I know how hard it is..Noone knows about what your going through than me. Ill be rooting for ya
Not even close. You got fat like how most people get fat. You just didn't give a crap. Keith almost died from a crippling incident. He was never the same again.
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Kieth's lack of will power is sickening! He'll be buried in a piano box for sure.
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Keith is the man. I've nothing but respect and hope that he focuses on and achieves his goals!
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keith is good people
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Way to go Keith! I support you! 8)
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as long as one can maintain most of the strength, there is no reason not to go low in calories (other than convenience)
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Yes that's why I said he couldn't just start eating 1200calories a day, I mean come on, 1200calories a day makes me hungry, Keith would go mental ;D.
who knows, he's a fighter
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Good luck Keith and I wish you well............In just never wanna be behind you at a buffet line :D
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fat bastard :D
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"Oh well, he wasn't going to write Beethovens ninth symphony anyways"
This will be the commentary soon if your fat ass doesn't get it together.
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"The difference between the possible and impossible lies in the mans determination."
Good luck!
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Not even close. You got fat like how most people get fat. You just didn't give a crap. Keith almost died from a crippling incident. He was never the same again.
whoa calm down nuk nuk, I meant I know how it is to loose weight not how either one of us got there
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Keith, you need consistency, not intensity. That may be challenging for an old strength athlete like you.
Also, I don't know you, but maybe you relate to food like an addict. Or maybe it distracts you from feelings of boredom, unhappiness, loss of identity, or of lacking control of your life. Addressing the underlying cause of your overeating with a mental health doc or addiction professional might be something to consider.
This thread was perhaps started as a mean spirited joke but there are lots of us who want you to succeed. You accomplished a lot in your youth. Just imagine what you could do with the benefit of the wisdom and strength of character you have gained. Make it happen!
no i started it because i want to help him.
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Not even close. You got fat like how most people get fat. You just didn't give a crap. Keith almost died from a crippling incident. He was never the same again.
I had a motorcycle accident that almost took my life , I didn't even gain one pound.
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I had a motorcycle accident that almost took my life , I didn't even gain one pound.
I understand. Sounds like you weren't able to train or eat (weren't you in a coma)? I'm an ecto so it's harder for me to gain weight than lose but when I was on crutches for 2 months and limping around for another six weeks and not able to train much I put on 20 pounds. I think thats more the norm.
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I understand. Sounds like you weren't able to train or eat (weren't you in a coma)? I'm an ecto so it's harder for me to gain weight than lose but when I was on crutches for 2 months and limping around for another six weeks and not able to train much I put on 20 pounds. I think thats more the norm.
why were u on crutches pelly???
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Keith is a great dude and always free with advices. I wish you lots of luck and even more support Keith! Its time to do it!!
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Good luck big man!
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whoa calm down nuk nuk, I meant I know how it is to loose weight not how either one of us got there
What makes you think I'm not calm? But I see I touched a nerve. You claimed to know better than anyone else what Keith is going through. "Noone knows about what your going through than me." LOL!
A lot of us, if not most, know what it is like to have to drop weight but no one other than you claim to know what Keith has went through. The difference between you and Keith is that Keith was ill and unable to train and it just snow balled. You got fat because you're a simmering basket case and cried yourself to sleep every night with your face buried in a tub of Ben and Jerrys. Yet you try to portray yourself as some hero always patting yourself on the back whereas the rest of the us never had to overcome such "obstacles" because we are sane and discipline enough never getting into the sad and pathetic state you found yourself in.
Hey, I tried to be nice but you thought it was cute to keep needling me. You're not on MuscleWeek now missy and no one is going to protect you here. Read the Slacker Q&A thread again and explain to me how badly he owned me?
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I understand. Sounds like you weren't able to train or eat (weren't you in a coma)? I'm an ecto so it's harder for me to gain weight than lose but when I was on crutches for 2 months and limping around for another six weeks and not able to train much I put on 20 pounds. I think thats more the norm.
Yes, comma, brain injury , two months in bed at the hospital ...........over a year of treatment. what happened to your leg?
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What makes you think I'm not calm? But I see I touched a nerve. You claimed to know better than anyone else what Keith is going through. "Noone knows about what your going through than me." LOL!
A lot of us, if not most, know what it is like to have to drop weight but no one other than you claim to know what Keith has went through. The difference between you and Keith is that Keith was ill and unable to train and it just snow balled. You got fat because you're a simmering basket case and cried yourself to sleep every night with your face buried in a tub of Ben and Jerrys. Yet you try to portray yourself as some hero always patting yourself on the back whereas the rest of the us never had to overcome such "obstacles" because we are sane and discipline enough never getting into the sad and pathetic state you found yourself in.
Hey, I tried to be nice but you thought it was cute to keep needling me. You're not on ilovespam now missy and no one is going to protect you here. Read the Slacker Q&A thread again and explain to me how badly he owned me?
melt much ....whoa
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geez louiz smelly pelly
stop yelling at us the normal people on this forum
u crazy weirdo
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melt much ....whoa
I know. Anything you can't think of a come back to is a meltdown.
Most oft used term from the dim witted.
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I know. Anything you can't think of a come back to is a meltdown.
Most oft used term from the dim witted.
oh lordy
that post doesnt even make sense
obvious sign that u are enraged and cant type the right way
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Yes, comma, brain injury , two months in bed at the hospital ...........over a year of treatment. what happened to your leg?
I got caught in the same move I'm going to slap on NW if I should meet that shit talking queer stuck in a perpetual state of arrested development.
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I hope Keith reaches his goals. Unfortunately I think he needs drugs and/or surgical intervention or the chance of success is slim. I'm not talking about self-prescribed drugs either, in case someone thinks that, but under a doctors care.
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I got caught in the same move I'm going to slap on NW if I should meet that shit talking queer stuck in a perpetual state of arrested development.
blah blah blah
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oh lordy
that post doesnt even make sense
obvious sign that u are enraged and cant type the right way
Where do you live tough guy? I'm going on vacation in a few months and a friend of mine want to go to some nowhere, USA state and check out the MMA gyms. Maybe we can visit your state and you can have the pleasure of insulting me to my face.
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Where do you live tough guy? I'm going on vacation in a few months and a friend of mine want to go to some nowhere, USA state and check out the MMA gyms. Maybe we can visit your state and you can have the pleasure of insulting me to my face.
i live on the east coast
u are welcome anytime pops
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i live on the east coast
u are welcome anytime pops
East Coast is a state? Please be more specific.
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I enjoyed onlyme's Barbarian Bros stories back in the day...
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East Coast is a state? Please be more specific.
nutmeg
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nutmeg
Avoiding the question again coward. Just like when you said you would post a pic of yourself that would blow me away.
I guess just the thought of the possibility of me actually paying you visit is making you piss your pants, suck your thumb and crying for your mommy.
OK, little boy, I'll let you go.
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nutmeg
cinnamon
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Avoiding the question again coward. Just like when you said you would post a pic of yourself that would blow me away.
I guess just the thought of the possibility of me actually paying you visit is making you piss your pants, suck your thumb and crying for your mommy.
OK, little boy, I'll let you go.
oh lordy
anybody w a brain knows nutmeg state=ct try and keep up u crispy geezer
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Again everyone thanks for all the encouragement even to the haters. i really trying. It is just harder than I thought. the one thing I do when I post or talk is that I do it out of experience. I have actually lived or done what I am talking about. I don't tell anyone what to do or give advice on something unless I have lived through it. The guys who tell me how easy it is never experienced what I have in regards to the weight gain. It is easy talking shit when you weigh 150 or have literally no muscle. People like Newmom who has lived through weight loss is someone I respect as I do Tbombz who grew up chubby. I have experienced all body shapes. I was skinny as kid (so skinny I didn't make the varsity baseball team cause the cause said I was to small at 130 lbs.), Even though 300 pounds sounds like alot of weight to 99% of the people I lived fine at this weight for almost 15 years. There isn't anything I could do and do well in regards to sports or moving. The one thing that has affected me most about the weight gain is my lack of strength in my legs. I gained this weight by lying in bed. I had not trained legs seriously since the mid 80's. My leg work was solely from riding bike and cardio and some calf work. So when I gained the weight it was hard for me to walk around. it is still today like that cause my entire lower right leg is so weak. I appreciate the sincere advice and support. I really do. But, I know what I have to do it is just me mentally doing it. I will and I have already begun. I am taking it really slow but I know it will come. When I am ready I will post photos and video. Don't worry I think I have proved I like posting photos of me.
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ok man good work,
start the eating program now
throw up the first pic of yourself.
and lets get this going
if you keep your attitude of going at it slow, you will be dead before you even lose a pound
now is the time,
use getbig support, because if you keep gaining you wont even be able to logon to get big anymore.
lets get it started now
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Hey, Keith, Goodrum posted a device that is supposed to revolutionize training and you said nothing. Not like you to ignor a Goodrum post in a tread re yourself.
You have to admit that some here are experts at doing a lot and getting nowhere.
For the record, I have been saying for years here that obesity or fat or whatever you want to call it is extremely difficult to reverse, overcome or defeat. The point is musclemen
and strong guys shouldn't know fat people. It isn't just a matter of will power and cutting back on calories.
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You set a new world record in the powerlifting squat every time you get up out of a chair.
hahahahah so stupid its funny
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ok keith.
now you see the support
throw up the first before pic
and remember, its the year 2010 right now
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when i think of keith, i think of food, get hungry!
maybe keith is on a strong antidepressant hence the weight gain
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For the record, I have been saying for years here that obesity or fat or whatever you want to call it is extremely difficult to reverse, overcome or defeat. The point is musclemen
and strong guys shouldn't know fat people. It isn't just a matter of will power and cutting back on calories.
It's not a matter of cutting back on calories? Maybe upping the calories is the answer then? ::)
It is difficult to reverse, this is true. Which is why I said he likely needs some help.
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Hey, Keith, Goodrum posted a device that is supposed to revolutionize training and you said nothing. Not like you to ignor a Goodrum post in a tread re yourself.
You have to admit that some here are experts at doing a lot and getting nowhere.
For the record, I have been saying for years here that obesity or fat or whatever you want to call it is extremely difficult to reverse, overcome or defeat. The point is musclemen
and strong guys shouldn't know fat people. It isn't just a matter of will power and cutting back on calories.
All Flotsam.
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cmon keith,
get out of bed today!
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Id like to see him lose weight but it's been said he will for years. History is a good teacher. I really don't think he will.
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Age is a nasty thing. One of the things that happens to many is overweight as we age. So it might be easy to maintain a level of fitness and look good when you are young but quite another thing when you are over 40. Modern society makes it easy to live without having to do much in the form of exercise. Obesity is like an epidemic in many modern countries and I can't see any solution at the moment.
What is not appreciated by most bodybuilders is the difficulty to get rid of excess adipose tissue. For a start, most really fat people aren't able to do much re exercise. So that pretty much leaves dieting. The sad truth here is that dieting for fat people leaves them in a starvation mode so that when dieting ends the body quickly regains most if not more than what was lost. Dieting then can easily lead to even more obesity. This is totally overlooked by bodybuilders who smugly believe they could control bodies if left in charge. Anyone with experience in gyms knows it is difficult to get results for obese people.
Good luck to Keith. His poor health recurs and wipes out any success he has had so far. That would discourage anyone. At least he still has the goal and motivation but clearly they are not enough at the moment. Few here appreciate what Keith is dealing with.
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Go get it done Keith!!!! and keep us updated! The road is long but you'll get there brother!
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cmon keith,
get out of bed today!
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Keith how many calories are you taking in (roughly) on a daily basis ?!!?
this can be a good indicator of what you need to do in your program!
best of luck, we're here for ya buddy :)
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Keith how many calories are you taking in (roughly) on a daily basis ?!!?
this can be a good indicator of what you need to do in your program!
best of luck, we're here for ya buddy :)
I would suggest an ECA stack of roughly 3g E-C-A ed, DNP, 20 i.u. HGH, 1g Clenbuterol, 500mg Winstrol ed.
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Good luck Keith.
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good luck Kieth, you can do it, hopefully pulling a "Over The Top" and be in tip top shape. And I enjoy your stories, especially the car stories.
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Don't listen to these FAGS, keith you the man bro
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Age is a nasty thing. One of the things that happens to many is overweight as we age. So it might be easy to maintain a level of fitness and look good when you are young but quite another thing when you are over 40. Modern society makes it easy to live without having to do much in the form of exercise. Obesity is like an epidemic in many modern countries and I can't see any solution at the moment.
What is not appreciated by most bodybuilders is the difficulty to get rid of excess adipose tissue. For a start, most really fat people aren't able to do much re exercise. So that pretty much leaves dieting. The sad truth here is that dieting for fat people leaves them in a starvation mode so that when dieting ends the body quickly regains most if not more than what was lost. Dieting then can easily lead to even more obesity. This is totally overlooked by bodybuilders who smugly believe they could control bodies if left in charge. Anyone with experience in gyms knows it is difficult to get results for obese people.
Good luck to Keith. His poor health recurs and wipes out any success he has had so far. That would discourage anyone. At least he still has the goal and motivation but clearly they are not enough at the moment. Few here appreciate what Keith is dealing with.
Actually, newmom "knows better than anybody" what Keith is dealing with. She had to lose weight too.
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Don't listen to these FAGS, keith you the man bro
Thanks man.
Keith how many calories are you taking in (roughly) on a daily basis ?!!?
this can be a good indicator of what you need to do in your program!
best of luck, we're here for ya buddy :)
I would say around 3000 to 4000 on a good day. If I keep track of what I eat I try to keep it under 2500. My worst habit is the pastries but I am trying to cut back. I drink a ton of water. I know I need to cut carbs.
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or just eat your complex carbs in the am Keith if you want them. I wouldnt cut them entirely off, but you know this.
It aint easy my friend, but if you want it you will make it happen
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The body is a mysterious thing. Whatever regulates hunger so that at times we don't have to worry at all and our weight doesn't change? At other times we don't eat much and put on weight!
What are these pastries you are talking about? Must be something special. You know, fat people are not valued or even respected by most. Yet, if it is true that they love food why is it that even fast food companies don't get fatties to endorse them? I guess they don't want people to associate obesity with their product. It is sad the way fat people are treated in most societies. Look at Keith. He is ashamed to leave his place. He isn't the only one. When you restrict your activities what do you do instead? Go on the internet, watch TV, play games and none of this burns up energy. Somehow Keith has got to change his attitude but that isn't going to happen. He doesn't want others to see him like this because he is ashamed of the way he looks. His hatred for excess obesity is making him angry at himself. That anger fuels his desire to show everyone that he can get the old Keith back. When he fails to do so he gets even more deflated and pissed off and wonders when this fat is going to evaporate. That anger can become depression if he isn't careful. Depressed people don't care to do much and thus a vicious circle perpetuates what caused this in the first place.
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Vince your so right. I NEVER wanted to leave the house, well except to get food at a drive through or eat in a restaraunt. Never set foot on the beach (only a few miles away).
Yesterday there was a man that came to the gym with a female pro bber (she isnt famous but none the less a pro, I think she is). He was grossly overweight. He got on the treadmill and could barely walk but he was trying. I remember what it was like to be big like that. As I was done running, I gave him a smile, you could tell he was embarrassed or something to that effect. I knew how embarrased I felt the first few months going into the gym, but loosing the weight and keeping at it, well to say the least was a big accomplishment. You get your self esteem back, and Im sorry overweight people IMO suffer from this.
Depression does play a key role. I think most overweight people are emotional eaters. And those who keep it off, same thing, you just know you cant do that anymore. It's tough for sure.
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Vince your so right. I NEVER wanted to leave the house, well except to get food at a drive through or eat in a restaraunt. Never set foot on the beach (only a few miles away).
Yesterday there was a man that came to the gym with a female pro bber (she isnt famous but none the less a pro, I think she is). He was grossly overweight. He got on the treadmill and could barely walk but he was trying. I remember what it was like to be big like that. As I was done running, I gave him a smile, you could tell he was embarrassed or something to that effect. I knew how embarrased I felt the first few months going into the gym, but loosing the weight and keeping at it, well to say the least was a big accomplishment. You get your self esteem back, and Im sorry overweight people IMO suffer from this.
Depression does play a key role. I think most overweight people are emotional eaters. And those who keep it off, same thing, you just know you cant do that anymore. It's tough for sure.
good post new.
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James great song...
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Keiths a good guy,
Always enjoyed reading his stories about the barbarian brothers or training in world gym
with the stars of the 80s and 90s
Best of luck keith and look forward to seeing new pics when your ready\
regards
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Thnak for the support guys. I have been saying it for years I am going to do it and I have tried it several times and then get sick or something then I start over. I don't quit but there are just times I can't do it I am just to sick. I am actually feeling great right now just a little swollen leg but other than that pretty good. I am working on it. I am really hoping by Olympia I should be good enough to go and let people see me. I am up and about everyday. Walking mostly. Just taking it easy and slow cause I don't want to get sick again. Last time was in March with pnemonia and hypoxia. All that is better. Of course since I went to the hospital I had to have something go wrong so they gave me a slight case of cellulitis in my right hand where they took blood. That swelled my hand up so much I couldn't bend my fingers. That is almost all better. Everything is back to normal except two fingers I can't bend all the way but most of the way. I know it sounds like excuses and anyone who knows me knows I can play through pain and this kind of shit never stopped me before. But, it appears this age shit affects me a little more than I thought. So I am taking it easy and slow so nothing else goes wrong until I get back into shape. The haters can keep saying shit and I do listen but I can't afford to get really sick. So a snail's pace is what I am going at then once things turn around I will be fine nothing will stop me., Thanks again. One thing is at least financially I am doing great again and it is getting better everyday.
You owe THE BEEF a $100 bucks you fat bastard.
THE BEEF
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keith, what goos is money if you cant walk?
time to wake up
what the fuck are you eaqting pastries for?
jesus. you are 500lbs
do not eat pastries
ok here is my first revolutionary diet strategy for you
only drink water now.
just by cutting out whatever the hell you are drinking besides water you will lose weight.
just water
you can still eat your pastries and other womanly food you need but just with water ok,
this will be the first step for your weight loss.
no need to exercise yet, just water bro
easy as can be. you cant fuck that up, its genius
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keith, what goos is money if you cant walk?
time to wake up
what the fuck are you eaqting pastries for?
jesus. you are 500lbs
do not eat pastries
ok here is my first revolutionary diet strategy for you
only drink water now.
just by cutting out whatever the hell you are drinking besides water you will lose weight.
just water
you can still eat your pastries and other womanly food you need but just with water ok,
this will be the first step for your weight loss.
no need to exercise yet, just water bro
easy as can be. you cant fuck that up, its genius
Yesterday spent most of the time at the casino. no breakfast (glass of orange juice and 5 Aleve), 1/2 a tuna sub from Subway for lunch. #1 Whopper from Burger King with a Chocolate shake for dinner. That's it for the day. I know shitty food but not enough time to cook
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Yesterday spent most of the time at the casino. no breakfast (glass of orange juice and 5 Aleve), 1/2 a tuna sub from Subway for lunch. #1 Whopper from Burger King with a Chocolate shake for dinner. That's it for the day. I know shitty food but not enough time to cook
What the fuck is wrong with you? Burger King? Chocolate shake? No breakfast? Even if you don;t cook there are thousands of better choices.
For a guy who acts so in control you're really on the opposite end of the spectrum. Doing what you know is wrong just because it's convenient. tsk tsk.
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What the fuck is wrong with you? Burger King? Chocolate shake? No breakfast? Even if you don;t cook there are thousands of better choices.
For a guy who acts so in control you're really on the opposite end of the spectrum. Doing what you know is wrong just because it's convenient. tsk tsk.
I hate to say it because Keith is such a cool guy but yeah I pretty much agree with this post. ^^
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Yesterday spent most of the time at the casino.
what games do you play?
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A number 1 at Burger King, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Replace soda with chocolate shake. Double mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. At least he didn't have the french fries!
So, the whopper is about 700 calories. I am sure Keith got the large chocolate shake, which is about 960 calories. Wow, almost 1700 calories in one sitting!!
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A number 1 at Burger King, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Replace soda with chocolate shake. Double mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. At least he didn't have the french fries!
So, the whopper is about 700 calories. I am sure Keith got the large chocolate shake, which is about 960 calories. Wow, almost 1700 calories in one sitting!!
A number one includes french fries, dumbass.
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A number one includes french fries, dumbass.
No shit, asshole. But that doesn't mean he ate them, turd. He stated "#1 whopper from BK with a chocolate shake for dinner." He never mentioned the french fries. Maybe he didn't want the extra calories :D
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No shit, asshole. But that doesn't mean he ate them, turd. He stated "#1 whopper from BK with a chocolate shake for dinner." He never mentioned the french fries. Maybe he didn't want the extra calories :D
If it walks like a duck and talks likes a duck..... 8)
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If it walks like a duck and talks likes a duck..... 8)
If its Keith, it eats french fries? :-X
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If its Keith, it eats french fries? :-X
What 400 plus pound man have you heard of that orders a combo meal at a fast food joint and then immediately rolls down the window and throws the french fries out?
Just the thought of seeing an obese person complete that action makes me laugh out loud because it's such a MASSIVE paradox.
It ain't happenin' bro. :P
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What 400 plus pound man have you heard of that orders a combo meal at a fast food joint and then immediately rolls down the window and throws the french fries out?
Just the thought of seeing an obese person complete that action makes me laugh out loud because it's such a MASSIVE paradox.
It ain't happenin' bro. :P
Good point. The best is when they order a "diet" coke to go along with their triple decker whopper. :D
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Hey what happened to the a calorie is a calorie. That isn't more than 2500 to 3000 calories is it. I substituted the fries for onion rings. And by the way I do that maybe once every two weeks or so. I do not eat fast food very much.
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stop stop stop
the sickness stops here keith
no more fucking fast food.
the delusions you have been living in are no longer needed.
let us see when you are blind.
and you are blind as a bat believe me.
like i said, if you must eat bullshit child and woman food by all means go ahead.
but only drink water
no fucking shakes, no cokes,
water. just drink water
and you will lose weight
remember buddy, you cant fuck it up, its unfuckupable
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Good point. The best is when they order a "diet" coke to go along with their triple decker whopper. :D
well not a triple decker, but I used to be like whats the point of diet soda with junk food, but I too am one of those dorks
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Hey what happened to the a calorie is a calorie. That isn't more than 2500 to 3000 calories is it. I substituted the fries for onion rings. And by the way I do that maybe once every two weeks or so. I do not eat fast food very much.
It's perfectly fine as long as the deficit is there.
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I don't want to sound like an asshole but Keith is a lost cause ,he will never lose weight and he will die fat ,his only hope is gastric bypass surgery , sorry Keith.
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When you are really fat you get really hungry. Many have almost an addiction to some foods. Pastries, and whoppers with onion rings and big shake are rewards for going without. That might not be a lot of food but when you are not active you don't need that much. None of us are that fat so what do we know what it is like to deal with it?
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Are you serious? Dude, he eats maybe 4000 calories a day just to maintain his weight. He can't just suddenly eat 1/4 of that, he'd starve! He needs to cut out snacking and keep under 3000calories to start with IMO.
Come on dude...he needs to drop to 2200 or something...Or else it wouldn't be a diet...
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Vince I agree it is an addiction, but it's mind over matter. Noone loved onion rings and all other crap more than I. I went almost 6 months of eating clean 24/7. It was at a bday party in August I had my first potatoe chip. Now I just eat crap for the most part once a week
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new mom, stop being a enabler,
we are trying to save a mans life,
i dont give a fuck how you "feel" when you eat certain things
so get back in the kitchen and do something crazy for a change, and clean it!!
now keith you can do this man.
remember,
water just water
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I drink a lot of water. I may have a diet coke here and there but it doesn't even equal 4 a week at the most. I drink orange juice sometimes. I do drink Crystal Light which I mix with water. The thing about what I eat is that it isn't any different than when I trained everyday and was in very good shape (even if some think 300 is bad). Even at 247 I ate the same as I do now even worse. My biggest problem is I quit training and burning off what I eat. If I stay busy I usually don't eat much at all. it is the boring times or times when I am home working. But that is getting better. My problem is what I eat at night. I am trying to stop eating bad shit, I am down to eating granny smith apple at night for a snack. I love them. So hopefully that isn't to bad,. i know it is better than what I used to do.
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Keith do you still smell fat?
I guessing since it's been 3 years since you started getting in shape, you must really have dropped sum weight.
Good for you!
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What is happening to Keith has happened to millions of fat people. It isn't fun and it is difficult to reverse or even stop. Guys living by themselves have to eat takeaway to get reasonable meals. When you are heavy even those large meals aren't filling and you need extras. When you are training you can eat almost anything and I swear when I was teaching and running my gym at night I had to force feed myself to make any gains. That lasted for 25 years or so. Now I stay the same but if I diet I lose muscle. The body seems to like being at certain weights and scientists refer to these as set points. Fat people battle with these as well. Sometimes you gain a lot and then stay at the heavier size. Don't ask me how the body regulates us because I am sure it is not completely known. Why should there be higher set points? That doesn't make sense but you will definitely find that your body tends to stay at certain weights no matter what you try to do.
What I am trying to say here is that the typical musclehead thinking and strategy isn't going to work for really obese people. Different things are going on in their bodies. If it were a matter of will power then it would be fairly easy to control. But that is only half of the battle.
My advice to Keith is to read up on fat people and learn what they have found out about obesity and dieting. The Dimensions magazine website has some resources there but they aren't dedicated to making people thinner. Read the research about obesity and then try to understand it and see if any of that can help. The musclemen are advising to diet, diet, diet. They mean well but they don't know what they are dealing with.
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Basile is correct... dieting is like holding your head underwater... you can do it for a while but eventually your body will do everything in it's power to reach the surface for air... perhaps these set points the obese create are the bodyweight/s their bodies consider as normal... losing such a magnitude of weight e.g. 150lbs, 200lbs, 250lbs + to reverse obesity is a massive undertaking and involves going far far beyond the set points... where is the mental drive in that case?
you are literally fighting your body's process of homeostasis... now the morbidly obese population is not often characterised by their fighting spirit, courage, resiliency, mental and physical fortitude... this is not just the 20-30lbs people lose to get in shape etc. and even that is difficult.
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Keith, are you able to do any kind of exercise at all? Like getting in the pool or something...
On a side note...ever thought of getting back into arm wrestling?
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new mom, stop being a enabler,
we are trying to save a mans life,
i dont give a fuck how you "feel" when you eat certain things
so get back in the kitchen and do something crazy for a change, and clean it!!
now keith you can do this man.
remember,
water just water
Are you kidding me. Listen numbnuts, I know what he is going through, nothing more nothing less
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Keith writes that he has been around 300 healthy pounds for much of his adult life. Habits develop and so do likes and dislikes. Sounds like the guy enjoyed life and ate what he pleased and to the full. Meals with friends and family are part of enjoying life. Can anyone here go shopping in a supermarket and not buy a treat or two? Especially in the supermarkets in America where plenty of snacks and treats are there to choose. You can go to the deli and buy cooked food. Soda drinks, lollies and cookies are often on special and they are tasty. The list goes on and on.
I think Keith is too old to overhaul his life and change habits he acquired over decades of living the good life. Why not have a whopper plus onion rings once in a while?
Newmom knows about all this stuff because she has battled it herself. Having one day a week to really treat oneself is a good idea. I used to do that with my kids and made Saturday lolly day. They weren't allowed to have sweets and candy except on Saturday when they could have as much as they liked.
Keith needs a good woman to live with him and prepare meals and look after him.
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What is happening to Keith has happened to millions of fat people. It isn't fun and it is difficult to reverse or even stop. Guys living by themselves have to eat takeaway to get reasonable meals. When you are heavy even those large meals aren't filling and you need extras. When you are training you can eat almost anything and I swear when I was teaching and running my gym at night I had to force feed myself to make any gains. That lasted for 25 years or so. Now I stay the same but if I diet I lose muscle. The body seems to like being at certain weights and scientists refer to these as set points. Fat people battle with these as well. Sometimes you gain a lot and then stay at the heavier size. Don't ask me how the body regulates us because I am sure it is not completely known. Why should there be higher set points? That doesn't make sense but you will definitely find that your body tends to stay at certain weights no matter what you try to do.
What I am trying to say here is that the typical musclehead thinking and strategy isn't going to work for really obese people. Different things are going on in their bodies. If it were a matter of will power then it would be fairly easy to control. But that is only half of the battle.
My advice to Keith is to read up on fat people and learn what they have found out about obesity and dieting. The Dimensions magazine website has some resources there but they aren't dedicated to making people thinner. Read the research about obesity and then try to understand it and see if any of that can help. The musclemen are advising to diet, diet, diet. They mean well but they don't know what they are dealing with.
Keith doesn't need to read or research anything. He just needs to just DO IT. Just get out of bed, go to the gym or to his workout area and hit the weights and the cardio. He needs to take a trash bag and throw out all of the junk food that he has and replace it with healthy food. Most importantly, he needs to do it on a consistant basis.
Keith needs to make a complete lifestyle change, period, and stop screwing around and making excuses. He knows what he needs to do and he needs to just do it. He's smart enough to know this so there's no reason to suggest that he needs to research or etc. Ultimately, he needs to take control of his life and change it.
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Vince being an emotional eater, such as I was, everyday is a battle at times. But I snap to reality, and know I would never go back to that. I dont think anyone is ever to old. If you want it bad enough, then its mind over matter. That is just my opinion
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keith will be ripped in no time, he is a survivor. i dont understand how financially wealthy guys fall for food, if i wass rich i wouldnt even have a appetite, would be too happy
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Keith doesn't need to read or research anything. He just needs to just DO IT. Just get out of bed, go to the gym or to his workout area and hit the weights and the cardio. He needs to take a trash bag and throw out all of the junk food that he has and replace it with healthy food. Most importantly, he needs to do it on a consistant basis.
Keith needs to make a complete lifestyle change, period, and stop screwing around and making excuses. He knows what he needs to do and he needs to just do it. He's smart enough to know this so there's no reason to suggest that he needs to research or etc. Ultimately, he needs to take control of his life and change it.
Good post by vince , good to see him not attacking keith..well done ;)
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Good post by vince , good to see him not attacking keith..well done ;)
I agree..Great post Goodrum
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Goodrum does a couple of internet courses and thinks he is an expert. He doesn't know the obese population and the special problems they have. All the advice here Keith knows. However, he just doesn't accept that he is fat and might remain that way. My point is he has to accept the reality and find ways to deal with what has taken his fitness away from him. It isn't easy and it helps to know what the fat people know about obesity. There is a lot of research about obesity. It pays to read it and know the language and results. Musclemen think they can go from offseason to competition by dieting and doing aerobics. That works when you are young but not so good when you get much older and have limited mobility. All the advice in the world is not going to change reality.
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Musclemen think they can go from offseason to competition by dieting and doing aerobics. That works when you are young but not so good when you get much older and have limited mobility. All the advice in the world is not going to change reality.
They probably can... but most stay in close range to their competition weights... 30-50lbs and a full awareness of the temporary condition of the dieting :D
Also plenty get in top shape without aerobics
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basile, get the fuck out of this thread, you fat twink
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new mom, stop being a enabler,
we are trying to save a mans life,
i dont give a fuck how you "feel" when you eat certain things
so get back in the kitchen and do something crazy for a change, and clean it!!
now keith you can do this man.
remember,
water just water
LMAO! X10!
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Goodrum does a couple of internet courses and thinks he is an expert. He doesn't know the obese population and the special problems they have. All the advice here Keith knows. However, he just doesn't accept that he is fat and might remain that way. My point is he has to accept the reality and find ways to deal with what has taken his fitness away from him. It isn't easy and it helps to know what the fat people know about obesity. There is a lot of research about obesity. It pays to read it and know the language and results. Musclemen think they can go from offseason to competition by dieting and doing aerobics. That works when you are young but not so good when you get much older and have limited mobility. All the advice in the world is not going to change reality.
I deal with them on a regular basis. That's the bulk of clients for most personal trainers.
Fact is that the only way someone obese is going to get in shape is if he or she really wants to get in shape and has the willpower to start a training and diet regimen and stick with it. If they can't do that, then they will never succeed.
And while age is a factor, it should not stop you. Look at Frank Zane and Larry Scott from their recent pictures. They are both your age and they are doing just fine. What's your excuse???
(http://www.frankzane.com/Back-Cover%20300.jpg)
(http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachments/35-older/18873d1190751016-larry-scott-64-larryscott.jpg)
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Keith doesn't need to read or research anything. He just needs to just DO IT. Just get out of bed, go to the gym or to his workout area and hit the weights and the cardio. He needs to take a trash bag and throw out all of the junk food that he has and replace it with healthy food. Most importantly, he needs to do it on a consistant basis.
Keith needs to make a complete lifestyle change, period, and stop screwing around and making excuses. He knows what he needs to do and he needs to just do it. He's smart enough to know this so there's no reason to suggest that he needs to research or etc. Ultimately, he needs to take control of his life and change it.
Good post man I can see you are actually trying to help Keith here.
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Keith and gene are such badass names, i cant remember the last time i referred to them by their actual handles.
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With all due respect, Keith was a world class athlete. He has also been posting on here for a decade or so, it would be impossible for him not to learn about nutrition. He knows how to lose weight, he simply doesn't want to.
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Are you kidding me. Listen numbnuts, I know what he is going through, nothing more nothing less
No you don't. Get off your high horse, missy.
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It's perfectly fine as long as the deficit is there.
NO it isn't. Don't encourage a fat person to eat fat shit. What the hell is wrong with you?
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With all due respect, Keith was a world class athlete. He has also been posting on here for a decade or so, it would be impossible for him not to learn about nutrition. He knows how to lose weight, he simply doesn't want to.
you know you are partly right. When the weight gain first started I thought I could just train and it would come off. As it got down to where I couldn't train at all and barley walk I started to just stay home and lie in bed or stand in my pool all day. I went nowhere. i gotta tell you I think it was depression. I just felt like no matter what I did it ended up I would get hurt and leg would get so big I couldn't do shit. Then it got down to where I didn't care anymore what people thought. anyone and everyone who knows me knows I went almost every night. If I went somewhere I never been it would be minutes before I had many people around me offering to buy me drinks or whatever. I would go to a club with friends I never been to and go to the front door and stand for just a few minutes and the bouncer would asked me how many I had with me and then let us all in. If I was looking shitty I wouldn't go out. I cared what I looked like. I liked it when people would say how good I looked and big muscles. Now I go out and I see a totally different look and for some reason I don't give a shit anymore. I want to get back into shape more than anything but mentally I need to get back., I know the haters will just say "come on you fat fuck and quit with the excuses". It is those guys who have no idea what is happening. It is NOT as easy as just saying it. I was in shape, I was strong and I drew positive attention. I know how to train and I know how to get back into shape. Do you honestly think if it was as easy as you say I wouldn't do it. You have no idea what I have waiting for me if I get back into shape. I have a huge amount of incentive but I am having a harder time doing it as I thought it would be. For people to say shit like that just shows me you have no idea. In all honesty, the only person who can relate is Newmom and maybe Tbombz. But Tbomz was young. I think if I was younger it would be a little different too. My body takes a little longer in the morning to get going. I also found out if I don't take 5 Aleve it is a little harder to get around for the day.
Anyway, my goal is to be in good enough shape by the Olympia to go to the expo. I won't be back to where I want to be but I will be alot better. I'd also like to have some strength so I can train with a few of you while you are here. So I guess we will see. I have alot to gain from the weight loss and I know that. I just need to do it slowly so it becomes a natural part of my day.
And as much as Goodrum is an ass, he was actually nice earlier, but don't think once that we are going to go out. :-X
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Keith, you have to reach your breaking point. When obese, of course depression sets in. You'll get there just on your own terms.
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NO it isn't. Don't encourage a fat person to eat fat shit. What the hell is wrong with you?
I wasn't, I was just commenting in general. It depends on the person what the most convenient way is to lose fat. Many obese people fail time after time because they are told to eat things they hate. I agree that for others, the best way is to completely change their nutrition. Not the same for everyone.
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Hey what happened to the a calorie is a calorie. That isn't more than 2500 to 3000 calories is it. I substituted the fries for onion rings. And by the way I do that maybe once every two weeks or so. I do not eat fast food very much.
Remember Keith, a calorie is a calorie and a grain of sand is a grain of sand. ;D
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Remember Keith, a calorie is a calorie and a grain of sand is a grain of sand. ;D
but a spider bit is forever. :P
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Keith, you have to reach your breaking point. When obese, of course depression sets in. You'll get there just on your own terms.
fuck you , your emotionally crippling advice has no need here
this thread is to help him get going , not to enable the behavior we are trying to correct
you fat lazy woman
i would slap your face off if you were in my presence.
now
keith we know about the whole ordeal
but we arent here to mentally relate to you. we cannot. you put your self on another planet with the 500lb business. of course we cant relate to you. 99.9 percent of the world cannot relate to you.
so with this in mind, get fucking working.
i want a daily log with what your doing as far as eating and if you plan on walking for exercise.
like i said it can all start with just drinking water, how fucking easy is that?
its easy so drink it
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fuck you , your emotionally crippling advice has no need here
this thread is to help him get going , not to enable the behavior we are trying to correct
you fat lazy woman
i would slap your face off if you were in my presence.
now
keith we know about the whole ordeal
but we arent here to mentally relate to you. we cannot. you put your self on another planet with the 500lb business. of course we cant relate to you. 99.9 percent of the world cannot relate to you.
so with this in mind, get fucking working.
i want a daily log with what your doing as far as eating and if you plan on walking for exercise.
like i said it can all start with just drinking water, how fucking easy is that?
its easy so drink it
who shit in your cornflakes..You dumb twat, I used to be obese nutfuck
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yes we know this, now shut the fuck up
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who shit in your cornflakes..You dumb twat, I used to be obese nutfuck
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This one deserves a roflcopter.
Mouthy woman, you are.
Id fuck the shit outta ya.
I like a little woman with my crazy. ;D
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yes we know this, now shut the fuck up
oh tough guy huh..so impressed
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I am sure the guy knows how to get in shape. He "is" a world class athlete. Not 'was'. I say this meaning that when you are a world class athlete, you always are even know physically you are not. You never lose your knowledge of how to train or how to get in shape.
He knows what to do. But my professional opinion is that he is hindered physically more than he knows.
Judging on his symptoms that he is stating. He is suffering from classic symptoms of hypogonadism. Low T causes a decreased general sense of well-being, as well as fatigue, depression and sleep disturbances. In addition to problems such as sexual dysfunction or general malaise, however, low testosterone also translates into decreased muscle mass and strength, as well as a decrease in bone mass and an increase in abdominal fat. I am betting that when you get up in the morning that your mind is "cloudy' for a few hours afterward and you have trouble focusing through out the day and are tired and fatigued through out the day besides the fact that you are overweight. Being overweight does not cause the amount of fatigue and tiredness you are experiencing to the degree you are suffering from. These are classic symptoms of hypogonadism.
It's hard to train or eat right when you cannot even get out of bed in the morning and are suffering from depression. What you need is the energy to do what you need to do.
Keith go see a a Urologist preferably. If you have any other questions let me know and I will be glad to help.
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who shit in your cornflakes..You dumb twat, I used to be obese nutfuck
Melt much? LOL!
But seriously, we've all had your brave and courageous story seared into our memory banks but really stop trying to make this thread all about you. I'm sure someone in Hollywood will want to make a movie about your life and all of humanity can learn, benefit and grow from "all that you had to go through."
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Melt much? LOL!
But seriously, we've all had your brave and courageous story seared into our memory banks but really stop trying to make this thread all about you. I'm sure someone in Hollywood will want to make a movie about your life and all of humanity can learn, benefit and grow from "all that you had to go through."
your such a wimp its not funny..no zip it skippy ;D
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This one deserves a roflcopter.
Mouthy woman, you are.
Id fuck the shit outta ya.
I like a little woman with my crazy. ;D
She'll surrender the bung hole if you marry her (at 40 with a kid she has to up the ante). Classy lady. All the way classy lady.
Newmom
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a bber is a bber is a bber
Reply #26 on: May 28, 2010, 05:40:55 AM
Quote from: SoCalMuscle on May 27, 2010, 09:57:13 PM
up the pooper is something to be shared with someone special.
exactly, that is why only did it ONCE..
If there is a next time, there better be a ring on my finger
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lmao oh you got me there
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your such a wimp its not funny..no zip it skippy ;D
Sucks when you don't have your boy pal Block to delete my posts. LOL!
It's only the internet, tootsie.
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Sucks when you don't have your boy pal Block to delete my posts. LOL!
It's only the internet, tootsie.
um tootsie lollipop, i was away no access to computer and no didnt access it through my phone. I think from what I saw you got a douchebag alert and yet still said something retarded
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Sucks when you don't have your boy pal Block to delete my posts. LOL!
It's only the internet, tootsie.
emn1964
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i think the old queer deleted his account
Special Ed
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Re: Now is the time to strike
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I'm just assuming Pellius and Marty were the same guy. Marty started a few threads -- some okay, one apparently too stupid and irrelevant (I didn't even see it) and Block deleted it and gave Marty a Douchebag warning not to dumb things down too much here. Then Pellius starts a 'What happened to Marty's thread' as if talking about some idiotic post is somehow worthy of debate or more space and I deleted it. Then Pellius PMed the mods and asked about it again. We gave him our explanation: It's not censorship -- just deleting mindless, irrelevant, attention-whoring drivel.
Apparently, Pellius was so emotionally hurt by the deletion of a Marty's trivial thread that he deleted all of his posts and changed his name to '.'
As for the remaining post, members cannot delete original threadstarters -- only replies. So Pellius will always stay with us as 'Dot'.
Coincidentally, Marty and Pellius left through the same back door at precisely the same time.
Personally, I kinda liked Pellius's posts but I do admire his loyalty to his alter ego.
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Looks like a throwing of hands is in order here.
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Looks like a throwing of hands is in order here.
I really dont have a problem with pellus, yeesh I complimented him on his triceps
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Typical thread highjacking. Pellius hasn't been the same since he posted that the police raided his place and confiscated his stash of firearms. I guess that would piss any collector off.
We all want to know if he is going to fess up about using a bizarre gimmick or if he is innocent of all charges. In the meantime, he should show more respect to women.
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Is ncmslippin right that hapless Keith has gonad problems? What you people have to understand is that morbid obesity can alter the hormones in the body and things go haywire afterwards. Seems Keith might have more problems than he is aware of. Yet the experts here are insisting he just has to cut down on the calories.
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Is ncmslippin right that hapless Keith has gonad problems? What you people have to understand is that morbid obesity can alter the hormones in the body and things go haywire afterwards. Seems Keith might have more problems than he is aware of. Yet the experts here are insisting he just has to cut down on the calories.
You sound like a bright man. What medical school did you graduate from?
Where have you published your research?
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Typical thread highjacking. Pellius hasn't been the same since he posted that the police raided his place and confiscated his stash of firearms. I guess that would piss any collector off.
We all want to know if he is going to fess up about using a bizarre gimmick or if he is innocent of all charges. In the meantime, he should show more respect to women.
yesterday they raided some rich guy near by, he had 100 grand worth of ak-47s :-X
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Typical thread highjacking. Pellius hasn't been the same since he posted that the police raided his place and confiscated his stash of firearms. I guess that would piss any collector off.
We all want to know if he is going to fess up about using a bizarre gimmick or if he is innocent of all charges. In the meantime, he should show more respect to women.
Vince, I'm hurt. I thought you knew me better than that. You really think I'm marty because Special Ed said so? I went over to that board because this board is so poorly maintained and I was under the impression that muscle week/getbig 2 was just like getbig except a better board. I was even promoting them and brought some folks here over there. I soon realized some of my posts were getting deleted and threads I was on were also deleted. Block explained to me that he didn't want any of the getbig drama and wanted it to be strictly a bodybuilding board. Fair dinkum. I find bodybuilding as a sole topic to be somewhat less than compelling. It was obvious that Block's board wasn't for me. No big deal. I did delete some of my posts where I was promoting the board because I no longer do. I don't like such strict censorship. Why should they allow some posts of mine they like and delete those they don't? But I didn't think I left with any hard feelings. I told Block that I understood and I guess the board wasn't for me. I was big fans of Block and Ed when they were here and don't know why they were banned. Then I was told that it seemed they took it personally over there and were flaming me. OK.
As far as newmom, I've given her a wide berth but she delights in needling me. Fine. It's all in good fun. But what's good for the goose.... I give respect where respect is due and never instigate anything unless it's done first.
But drama is what keeps this board popping. BTW, this was discussed already on this thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=332023.25
Also, most of the firearms have been returned and no charges filed. I'm off the terrorist watch list. They did keep a few rifles that though I bought legally are now considered assault weapons. But I'm still armed and ready when the day comes where all goes to hell.
BTW, per your suggestion, I've done away with the protein shakes except when I don't have time for a meal and have increased calories and carbs. You had a point about a 180 lb man consuming 300+ grams of protein/day. It is a waste. But it seems like I'm slowly filling out this decrepit old frame. And I'm saving a few shekels by not eating so much protein.
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so keith
you gonna do something about his or what?
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BTW, muscle week / getbig 2 did the same to Alex and chaos. They want a certain type of board and if you don't fit their profile you're out. I really don't have a problem with that. Just not for me. People complain about this board but it's still the most popular (except for BB . com). There are trade offs to more freedom of speech but you have to take the good with the bad. I prefer more freedom despite the flotsam it attracts.
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I love it when assholes of the board have it out with newmom. Newmom wins everytime
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I love it when assholes of the board have it out with newmom. Newmom wins everytime
Top tier owner for sure. Ask Sev, uberman and Lady Heather. Keep kissing her ass and she'll hold her fire on you. But props for sticking up for the girl. Very chivalrous.
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Pellius, I always take my time to make conclusions. It is too easy to be mistaken about people. I have always thought you were sincere when you post and that is your downfall at times because you can be stirred. I think you should defend yourself on the other forum. Otherwise they look like they were telling the truth. There is no easy well to establish truth or falsehood on the net. Goodrum is there so they obviously let schmoes post there!
Glad you got your toys back. I wouldn't own guns unless I lived in the wilderness. Can't say that Hawaii is such a place. Not where you live, anyway.
You seem to take these forums too seriously. Next thing you will be challenging people and so on. The trouble is no one knows who most of these characters are and if you react like you do some of the time then they will goad you good and proper. Many are just young guys posting to have a laugh.
Protein isn't that important. Musclemen have been dopes for decades and still are. Beliefs are hard to change. Go live with Keith for a couple of months and let him eat what you eat and vice versa. Should be good results for both of you!
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so keith
you gonna do something about his or what?
Since this is your thread it's for you to determine if you think it's been high jacked. I simply agree with you on newmom. I don't think she has a clue to what Keith is going through and find her advice counter productive at best; harmful at worse.
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Go live with Keith for a couple of months and let him eat what you eat and vice versa. Should be good results for both of you!
anorexia nervosa meets morbid obesity in one epic showdown! ;)
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Pellius, I always take my time to make conclusions. It is too easy to be mistaken about people. I have always thought you were sincere when you post and that is your downfall at times because you can be stirred. I think you should defend yourself on the other forum. Otherwise they look like they were telling the truth. There is no easy well to establish truth or falsehood on the net. Goodrum is there so they obviously let schmoes post there!
Glad you got your toys back. I wouldn't own guns unless I lived in the wilderness. Can't say that Hawaii is such a place. Not where you live, anyway.
You seem to take these forums too seriously. Next thing you will be challenging people and so on. The trouble is no one knows who most of these characters are and if you react like you do some of the time then they will goad you good and proper. Many are just young guys posting to have a laugh.
Protein isn't that important. Musclemen have been dopes for decades and still are. Beliefs are hard to change. Go live with Keith for a couple of months and let him eat what you eat and vice versa. Should be good results for both of you!
Amino acids is second only to water to body composition. Of the three macro nutrients it is the most important. You can live on protein alone as amino acids can be converted to energy but carbs can't be converted to amino acids.
I would let people get to me on this board. By that I mean that I would fume over it even when I wasn't on the board. I tend to be hot tempered. But Pandae cured me of that. That's why I don't bother to defend myself over on Block's board. That advice seems to contradict what you are saying about taking things too seriously. I really don't care what they think as I haven't invested much time over there. I only started posting actively for a few days. And besides, they don't want me over there and I'll only stir things up and it will just drag out. I had a brief presence over there and I'm sure by now I'm a distant and insignificant memory. I'm sure they've move on by now.
And considering your long and burning feud with Melvin I don't think you should be lecturing others on taking things seriously. But I don't think it's a bad thing. That's what makes this board so compelling. It stirs people up.
And as far as challenges: in the spirit of the great John L. Sullivan, I've had a long standing open challenge that I can lick any man on this board (except the really though ones). I may challenge Melvin to a posedown if the new weight gain sits well on me.
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anorexia nervosa meets morbid obesity in one epic showdown! ;)
LOL at the coward who tries to piggy back on others when he senses a flame but then runs and hides when it fails. Still waiting for your pic. Since I just look like an old man I'm sure with your discipline and spartan life style and youthful vigor you can give me an example of your suicide conditioning to inspire me and the rest of the board.
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Top tier owner for sure. Ask Sev, uberman and Lady Heather. Keep kissing her ass and she'll hold her fire on you. But props for sticking up for the girl. Very chivalrous.
I didn't imply she owns anyone. I'm fucking high as balls and when I see someone going back and forth iwth a character named newmom i find it hilarious
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I didn't imply she owns anyone. I'm fucking high as balls and when I see someone going back and forth iwth a character named newmom i find it hilarious
you boys stop smoking weed
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you boys stop smoking weed
That's the equivalent of my asking you to give your baby away. I just love it way too much and wouldn't want to live without it. It's beautiful and gives me good reason to wake up to this ugly world.
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I didn't imply she owns anyone. I'm fucking high as balls and when I see someone going back and forth iwth a character named newmom i find it hilarious
Fair dinkum. (Sorry, Basile taught me that phrase and I love the way it sounds)
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Leave Keith alone
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There is no feud with hapless Goodrum. I stir him just for fun, same as what Keith does.
If Pellius wants a challenge then Goodrum isn't the dude. He placed last in all his contests including the one with Billy Guns.
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Leave Keith alone
x2
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I just love it way too much and wouldn't want to live without it. It's beautiful and gives me good reason to wake up to this ugly world.
Amen brother ;D
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Is ncmslippin right that hapless Keith has gonad problems? What you people have to understand is that morbid obesity can alter the hormones in the body and things go haywire afterwards. Seems Keith might have more problems than he is aware of. Yet the experts here are insisting he just has to cut down on the calories.
Most of the time I am right at work as lab tests confirm my physical observations of my patients. As a physician you always want to have all the information about the patient to make the best professional decision possible. That includes physical examinations, family history, talking to family and loved ones, MRI and CT scans and more importantly lab results to make the best decision possible.
Being obese can cause hormanal changes but not usually to that degree. My best educated guess is that Keith is suffering Hormonal problems due to suppression of the adrenal glands from high doses or prolonged doses of Glucocorticoids. Mainly Hydrocortisone or Methylprednislone due to his spider bite.
Hydrocortisone is a very important human glucocorticoid. It is essential, and it regulates or supports a variety of important immunologic, cardiovascular, metabolic, and homeostatic functions.Glucocorticoid s have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol
The bite of the brown recluse spider can result in a painful, deep wound that takes a long time to heal. Fatalities are extremely rare, but bites are most dangerous to young children, the elderly, and those in poor physical condition. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. The dead tissue gradually sloughs away, exposing underlying tissues. The sunken, ulcerating sore may heal slowly up to 6 to 8 weeks. This is usual, but not when the patient has a "reaction' to the spiders venom.
In Keiths case. He had a reaction to the venom. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. This is very dangerous and may result in the removal of the effected limb. Standard procedure is to give high doses of Methylprednisolone or Hydrocortisone.These synthic hormones have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol. Glucocorticoids suppress cell-mediated immunity. They act by inhibiting genes that code for the cytokines IL-1, IL-2, IL-3, IL-4, IL-5, IL-6, IL-8 and IFN-γ, the most important of which is IL-2. Smaller cytokine production reduces T cell proliferation.
Glucocorticoids do, however, not only reduce T cell proliferation, but also lead to another well known effect called glucocorticoid induced apoptosis. The effect is more prominent in immature T cells that still reside in the thymus, but also affect peripheral T cells.
Glucocorticoid drugs currently being used act nonselectively, so in the long run they may impair many healthy anabolic processes that may take weeks,months, or even years to recover from. Use of high-dose Glucocorticoids for more than a week begins to produce suppression of the patient's adrenal glands because the exogenous glucocorticoids suppress hypothalamic corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH) and pituitary adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH). This can play havoc on a persons bodily functions as well as hormone function.
My professional advice would be to see a endocrinologist and then a urologist. Endocrinologists do not like to prescribe TRT therapy but they will help out with his Adrenal problems if they exist.
Now this is my best educated guess I may be wrong without having the proper information as listed above, but it could not hurt to get checked out.
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Most of the time I am right at work as lab tests confirm my physical observations of my patients. As a physician you always want to have all the information about the patient to make the best professional decision possible. That includes physical examinations, family history, talking to family and loved ones, MRI and CT scans and more importantly lab results to make the best decision possible.
Being obese can cause hormanal changes but not usually to that degree. My best educated guess is that Keith is suffering Hormonal problems due to suppression of the adrenal glands from high doses or prolonged doses of Glucocorticoids. Mainly Hydrocortisone or Methylprednislone due to his spider bite.
Hydrocortisone is a very important human glucocorticoid. It is essential, and it regulates or supports a variety of important immunologic, cardiovascular, metabolic, and homeostatic functions.Glucocorticoid s have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol
The bite of the brown recluse spider can result in a painful, deep wound that takes a long time to heal. Fatalities are extremely rare, but bites are most dangerous to young children, the elderly, and those in poor physical condition. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. The dead tissue gradually sloughs away, exposing underlying tissues. The sunken, ulcerating sore may heal slowly up to 6 to 8 weeks. This is usual, but not when the patient has a "reaction' to the spiders venom.
In Keiths case. He had a reaction to the venom. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. This is very dangerous and may result in the removal of the effected limb. Standard procedure is to give high doses of Methylprednisolone or Hydrocortisone.These synthic hormones have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol. Glucocorticoids suppress cell-mediated immunity. They act by inhibiting genes that code for the cytokines IL-1, IL-2, IL-3, IL-4, IL-5, IL-6, IL-8 and IFN-γ, the most important of which is IL-2. Smaller cytokine production reduces T cell proliferation.
Glucocorticoids do, however, not only reduce T cell proliferation, but also lead to another well known effect called glucocorticoid induced apoptosis. The effect is more prominent in immature T cells that still reside in the thymus, but also affect peripheral T cells.
Glucocorticoid drugs currently being used act nonselectively, so in the long run they may impair many healthy anabolic processes that may take weeks,months, or even years to recover from. Use of high-dose Glucocorticoids for more than a week begins to produce suppression of the patient's adrenal glands because the exogenous glucocorticoids suppress hypothalamic corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH) and pituitary adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH). This can play havoc on a persons bodily functions as well as hormone function.
My professional advice would be to see a endocrinologist and then a urologist. Endocrinologists do not like to prescribe TRT therapy but they will help out with his Adrenal problems if they exist.
Now this is my best educated guess I may be wrong without having the proper information as listed above, but it could not hurt to get checked out.
This is a great post
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Most of the time I am right at work as lab tests confirm my physical observations of my patients. As a physician you always want to have all the information about the patient to make the best professional decision possible. That includes physical examinations, family history, talking to family and loved ones, MRI and CT scans and more importantly lab results to make the best decision possible.
Being obese can cause hormanal changes but not usually to that degree. My best educated guess is that Keith is suffering Hormonal problems due to suppression of the adrenal glands from high doses or prolonged doses of Glucocorticoids. Mainly Hydrocortisone or Methylprednislone due to his spider bite.
Hydrocortisone is a very important human glucocorticoid. It is essential, and it regulates or supports a variety of important immunologic, cardiovascular, metabolic, and homeostatic functions.Glucocorticoid s have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol
The bite of the brown recluse spider can result in a painful, deep wound that takes a long time to heal. Fatalities are extremely rare, but bites are most dangerous to young children, the elderly, and those in poor physical condition. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. The dead tissue gradually sloughs away, exposing underlying tissues. The sunken, ulcerating sore may heal slowly up to 6 to 8 weeks. This is usual, but not when the patient has a "reaction' to the spiders venom.
In Keiths case. He had a reaction to the venom. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. This is very dangerous and may result in the removal of the effected limb. Standard procedure is to give high doses of Methylprednisolone or Hydrocortisone.These synthic hormones have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol. Glucocorticoids suppress cell-mediated immunity. They act by inhibiting genes that code for the cytokines IL-1, IL-2, IL-3, IL-4, IL-5, IL-6, IL-8 and IFN-γ, the most important of which is IL-2. Smaller cytokine production reduces T cell proliferation.
Glucocorticoids do, however, not only reduce T cell proliferation, but also lead to another well known effect called glucocorticoid induced apoptosis. The effect is more prominent in immature T cells that still reside in the thymus, but also affect peripheral T cells.
Glucocorticoid drugs currently being used act nonselectively, so in the long run they may impair many healthy anabolic processes that may take weeks,months, or even years to recover from. Use of high-dose Glucocorticoids for more than a week begins to produce suppression of the patient's adrenal glands because the exogenous glucocorticoids suppress hypothalamic corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH) and pituitary adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH). This can play havoc on a persons bodily functions as well as hormone function.
My professional advice would be to see a endocrinologist and then a urologist. Endocrinologists do not like to prescribe TRT therapy but they will help out with his Adrenal problems if they exist.
Now this is my best educated guess I may be wrong without having the proper information as listed above, but it could not hurt to get checked out.
I PMed you. Here is a photo of my leg in the hospital
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Wow...well Keith you have my support. After all you disliked Sean as much as I did and gave it to him on this board. so you had a friend in me. ;D
I know what it is like though to be on top of your game and then to fall off. It can be really tough and it's easy to get down, depressed, and wallow in your problems but then you've got to get up and decide to change.
Being in the fitness industry is TOUGH. It isn't glamorous. Staying on top of your game, not letting yourself fall too far out of shape, not going out and being able to let go with friends like you want because you are training...it's tough.
When you have a setback it's easy to just overdo it and then you're like, "How did I get here".
Just take it one step at a time. Good luck!
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Wow...well Keith you have my support. After all you disliked Sean as much as I did and gave it to him on this board. so you had a friend in me. ;D
I know what it is like though to be on top of your game and then to fall off. It can be really tough and it's easy to get down, depressed, and wallow in your problems but then you've got to get up and decide to change.
Being in the fitness industry is TOUGH. It isn't glamorous. Staying on top of your game, not letting yourself fall too far out of shape, not going out and being able to let go with friends like you want because you are training...it's tough.
When you have a setback it's easy to just overdo it and then you're like, "How did I get here".
Just take it one step at a time. Good luck!
thank man., Sean is an asshole so I treated him like one. he might be a great bodybuilder but he is a piece of shit in everything else. Had to keep it real
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Most of the time I am right at work as lab tests confirm my physical observations of my patients. As a physician you always want to have all the information about the patient to make the best professional decision possible. That includes physical examinations, family history, talking to family and loved ones, MRI and CT scans and more importantly lab results to make the best decision possible.
Being obese can cause hormanal changes but not usually to that degree. My best educated guess is that Keith is suffering Hormonal problems due to suppression of the adrenal glands from high doses or prolonged doses of Glucocorticoids. Mainly Hydrocortisone or Methylprednislone due to his spider bite.
Hydrocortisone is a very important human glucocorticoid. It is essential, and it regulates or supports a variety of important immunologic, cardiovascular, metabolic, and homeostatic functions.Glucocorticoid s have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol
The bite of the brown recluse spider can result in a painful, deep wound that takes a long time to heal. Fatalities are extremely rare, but bites are most dangerous to young children, the elderly, and those in poor physical condition. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. The dead tissue gradually sloughs away, exposing underlying tissues. The sunken, ulcerating sore may heal slowly up to 6 to 8 weeks. This is usual, but not when the patient has a "reaction' to the spiders venom.
In Keiths case. He had a reaction to the venom. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. This is very dangerous and may result in the removal of the effected limb. Standard procedure is to give high doses of Methylprednisolone or Hydrocortisone.These synthic hormones have some serious side effects if taken long-term, including weight gain, glaucoma, osteoporosis and psychosis, especially when used at high dosage. The most serious side effect occurs after the adrenal glands cease natural production of cortisol. Glucocorticoids suppress cell-mediated immunity. They act by inhibiting genes that code for the cytokines IL-1, IL-2, IL-3, IL-4, IL-5, IL-6, IL-8 and IFN-γ, the most important of which is IL-2. Smaller cytokine production reduces T cell proliferation.
Glucocorticoids do, however, not only reduce T cell proliferation, but also lead to another well known effect called glucocorticoid induced apoptosis. The effect is more prominent in immature T cells that still reside in the thymus, but also affect peripheral T cells.
Glucocorticoid drugs currently being used act nonselectively, so in the long run they may impair many healthy anabolic processes that may take weeks,months, or even years to recover from. Use of high-dose Glucocorticoids for more than a week begins to produce suppression of the patient's adrenal glands because the exogenous glucocorticoids suppress hypothalamic corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH) and pituitary adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH). This can play havoc on a persons bodily functions as well as hormone function.
My professional advice would be to see a endocrinologist and then a urologist. Endocrinologists do not like to prescribe TRT therapy but they will help out with his Adrenal problems if they exist.
Now this is my best educated guess I may be wrong without having the proper information as listed above, but it could not hurt to get checked out.
What are your views on long term HCG use instead of TRT? My T level is shit but TRT killed my sex drive. Not on anything for a couple years now and sex drive and function is good but I'll have to address an unacceptable T level at some point. Also, I want to retain my fertility.
Thanks for any insight.
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You can see when someone who is an expert contributes. Good for the doctor to assist Keith. Let us hope he gets a new course of treatment and gets better. Keith has
been battling more than he imagined and the weight gain is not due solely to eating too much. Let this be a lesson to the know-it-alls out there.
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get to work keith
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get to work keith
i have. NO MORE late snacks that are bad.
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ok also, water
no sodas, shakes or fast food
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You can see when someone who is an expert contributes. Good for the doctor to assist Keith. Let us hope he gets a new course of treatment and gets better. Keith has
been battling more than he imagined and the weight gain is not due solely to eating too much. Let this be a lesson to the know-it-alls out there.
Most people are unaware of the hormone production of fat and all of the other alterations to your metabolism with weight gain. Your body goes through a lot of chemical changes that can't be solved with chicken breasts and egg whites. ::)
thank man., Sean is an asshole so I treated him like one. he might be a great bodybuilder but he is a piece of shit in everything else. Had to keep it real
Pretty much....and everyone who has had personal dealings with him says the same thing.
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ok also, water
no sodas, shakes or fast food
like i said i don't drink much soda and always diet and shakes are rare too. eating more tuna now for snackinmg and granny smith apples which i love
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are you laying down in bed right now keith?
are you sitting down in a chair?
if so get up, go outside, walk around, or walk in the pool
dont spend all day on getbig
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are you laying down in bed right now keith?
are you sitting down in a chair?
if so get up, go outside, walk around, or walk in the pool
dont spend all day on getbig
LOL, "walk in the pool" ??
That's what fat people do for exercise.
Keith is a strength athlete, he shouldn't be doing that silly shit.
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LOL, "walk in the pool" ??
That's what fat people do for exercise.
Keith is a strength athlete, he shouldn't be doing that silly shit.
The guy weighs FIVE HUNDRED POUNDS of lard, dipshit. lol
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yes this is why i recommend pool walking
ok keith tell us what you did today for your weight loss
tell us
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yes this is why i recommend pool walking
ok keith tell us what you did today for your weight loss
tell us
Yeah for overweight people that's good stuff. Easy on the joints, and such a good time.
Sucks to get your t-shirts wet though ;D
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Vince, I'm hurt. I thought you knew me better than that. You really think I'm marty because Special Ed said so? I went over to that board because this board is so poorly maintained and I was under the impression that muscle week/getbig 2 was just like getbig except a better board. I was even promoting them and brought some folks here over there. I soon realized some of my posts were getting deleted and threads I was on were also deleted. Block explained to me that he didn't want any of the getbig drama and wanted it to be strictly a bodybuilding board. Fair dinkum. I find bodybuilding as a sole topic to be somewhat less than compelling. It was obvious that Block's board wasn't for me. No big deal. I did delete some of my posts where I was promoting the board because I no longer do. I don't like such strict censorship. Why should they allow some posts of mine they like and delete those they don't? But I didn't think I left with any hard feelings. I told Block that I understood and I guess the board wasn't for me. I was big fans of Block and Ed when they were here and don't know why they were banned. Then I was told that it seemed they took it personally over there and were flaming me. OK.
As far as newmom, I've given her a wide berth but she delights in needling me. Fine. It's all in good fun. But what's good for the goose.... I give respect where respect is due and never instigate anything unless it's done first.
But drama is what keeps this board popping. BTW, this was discussed already on this thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=332023.25
Also, most of the firearms have been returned and no charges filed. I'm off the terrorist watch list. They did keep a few rifles that though I bought legally are now considered assault weapons. But I'm still armed and ready when the day comes where all goes to hell.
BTW, per your suggestion, I've done away with the protein shakes except when I don't have time for a meal and have increased calories and carbs. You had a point about a 180 lb man consuming 300+ grams of protein/day. It is a waste. But it seems like I'm slowly filling out this decrepit old frame. And I'm saving a few shekels by not eating so much protein.
What guns did they keep ?? that sucks dude, I have friends here in the same boat that lost Uzi's and Mac 11's :(
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I PMed you. Here is a photo of my leg in the hospital
Keith I sent you a PM.
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What are your views on long term HCG use instead of TRT? My T level is shit but TRT killed my sex drive. Not on anything for a couple years now and sex drive and function is good but I'll have to address an unacceptable T level at some point. Also, I want to retain my fertility.
Thanks for any insight.
I need more info, what type of TRT therapy were you on? Creams or Gels or IM?
HCG sounds like a good choice for hypogonadotrophic (secondary) hypogonadism. Such certainly makes sense, as supplementing with a LH analog indeed increases testosterone production in patients who do not concurrently suffer primary hypogonadism. But often, upwards of 1000IU per day must be given to achieve the desired serum T level. Even then, for some unexplained reason, while serum T levels may be adequately elevated,patients simply do not report realization of the benefits of TRT, when HCG is administered as sole TRT. You also run the risk of inducing LH insensitivity at that dosage, and therefore may actually cause primary hypogonadism while attempting to treat secondary hypogonadism. HCG, especially at higher doses, also dramatically increases aromatase activity, thus inappropriately elevating estrogens. Personally, I recommend never giving more than 500IU of HCG at a time.
It is not a good idea in my professional opinion.
How effective testosterone therapy will be, though, depends on what type of hypogonadism you have.
Those men affected by primary hypogonadism will be able to increase their testosterone production through the use of TRT. However, it is unlikely that your fertility will return, making it necessary to utilize ART in order to conceive. Men with secondary hypogonadism usually respond better to testosterone treatment and are often able to recover their fertility through the use of a testosterone supplement.
I have no way of knowing which type you have so there is no way of knowing if your fertility would be effected.
I need more information.
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keith get up,
out of bed, no sitting down all day
not today
get up
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keith get up,
out of bed, no sitting down all day
not today
get up
I was up had some oatmeal. Back working a little then off to the casino to play a little craps. About 100 degrees today so I am going out back to water.
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I was up had some oatmeal. Back working a little then off to the casino to play a little craps. About 100 degrees today so I am going out back to water.
are you a pass or dont pass beter Keith
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are you a pass or dont pass beter Keith
Always Pass with odds and I play every number and all the hard ways most of the time. As long as the dice are rolling I do great. I place some "hop" bets too once in awhile and I place high/low alot. I hate seeing numbers and I'm not getting paid
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Always Pass with odds and I play every number and all the hard ways most of the time. As long as the dice are rolling I do great. I place some "hop" bets too once in awhile and I place high/low alot. I hate seeing numbers and I'm not getting paid
oh god..see Im the opposite..dont pass beter here, I havent played in soooooo long. When I was in training for the gaming commission it took forever to learn that fucking game. So needless to say, Im not to welcome by other players on the craps table
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oh god..see Im the opposite..dont pass beter here, I havent played in soooooo long. When I was in training for the gaming commission it took forever to learn that fucking game. So needless to say, Im not to welcome by other players on the craps table
I played a few weeks ago and a guy literally had $100,000 in cash in bank rolls of $5000. I was rolling and he was betting Don't Pass. He was kicking ass but within an hour he had lost at least $60,000. He left with his bag with about $40,000 still in it. I was thinking about following him to the parking lot. My uncle Joe was a a high roller in the 70's, 80's and into the 90's. He taught me. If you were here during that time you probably would know who he was. He had a British Hawker we would fly here and had great weekends
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damn that dude was making series bank, thats cuz us dont pass beters, dont do those bullshit bets on the hardways and shit. its like when I see fucking idiots play the money wheel, or play super 7's on blackjack table..fucking sucker bets..dont get me started on stupidness at the casinos lol
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Casinos are just a legal way to redistribute wealth....from the customers to the owners!
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Casinos are just a legal way to redistribute wealth....from the customers to the owners!
Pretty much, they dont get big and pretty for customers winning
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Don't mind me, just droppin by with some motivation.
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Wow!
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good doctor,
are you standing while posting now?