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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
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Around here we have a ton of breakfast places open late at night that I usually indulge in. This week is my first week of kinda dieting though, so just some alcohol no binging like every other weekend lol. U will be normal weight by night time.
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Some times you need a food vacation.
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Around here we have a ton of breakfast places open late at night that I usually indulge in. This week is my first week of kinda dieting though, so just some alcohol no binging like every other weekend lol. U will be normal weight by night time.
I better be. Supposed to hang out with this cute 21 yr old with huge tits from Tinder who keeps saying how sexy my body is. I can't disappoint this bitch
And this is my 3rd week of dieting. Fuck
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Just shit it all out and put it behind you, bro. 8)
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Just shit it all out and put it behind you, bro. 8)
Already took two this morning. Pounded my EC too and will take jack3d before training. Stimming the fuck out today on 4 1/2 hours sleep
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Sounds like something I would do ;D
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It's a problem I face near enough every day.
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Already took two this morning. Pounded my EC too and will take jack3d before training. Stimming the fuck out today on 4 1/2 hours sleep
Thatta boy!
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Thatta boy!
FUCK just remembered I have to DVR the final four tonight. Well the second game at least. dammit now I have to avoid spoilers
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Sounds like something I would do ;D
Tweaker. :D
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
haha, i hear ya bro. even on a scheduled cheat meal i cant help but feel like absolute shit about 20 minutes after i eat it.
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dont worry, i have eaten worth a 100usd of junk food last night,all at once.
probably you get the same amount of food in the us for 50usd but it was alot.
woke up with veins everywhere but felt terribel.
oh well, thatll be another fastind day to make up for that
I feel the same way. What REALLY kills me is when I binge eat for multiple days in a row. That's shameful, makes you feel like shit, and it's 100% deserved too. I hate that feeling so much...
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Live a little, you self obsessed fucks.
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
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Don't sweat it bro, it was fun at the time- right? Just sweat it off in the gym (most of it is water retention due to massive sodium in KFC) and start on your same training diet today...
:)*** We ALL need a cheat meal once in a while to keep us SANE *** ;)
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dont worry, i have eaten worth a 100usd of junk food last night,all at once.
probably you get the same amount of food in the us for 50usd but it was alot.
woke up with veins everywhere
pics or it didnt happen fat ass. :D
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I feel the same way. What REALLY kills me is when I binge eat for multiple days in a row. That's shameful, makes you feel like shit, and it's 100% deserved too. I hate that feeling so much...
Know that all too well. The guilt is so fucking annoying. Because you do so well with diet and training and fuck it all up within a weekend. The sugar cravings can drive you nuts. But I'm getting better at controlling it. Luckily I can always trust myself when it comes to cardio and actually going to the gym, but dieting is still a challenge at times.
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Live a little, you self obsessed fucks.
;D
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Live a little, you self obsessed fucks.
:D
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hm i find that one big cheat meal even if its 10-15k calories, on a depleted state wont make you (too) fat as long theres a fasting day after that.
but eating 2 or days in a row like that will visible ruin a physiques look.im talking about some solid 4lbs gain of pure fat being possible ;D
Straight up, man. I look awesome after "cheating", but it's just doing it a few days in succession when it brings the pain. That's why I love doing intermittent fasting. I don't always love to pig out, but when I do it's with no restraint and I look fabulous afterwards. 8)
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Live a little, you self obsessed fucks.
lol
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The boozing that brings on the late night hunger/overindulgence doesn't help matters either. I know damn well I can drink a good 3,000 calories just in booze alone on an all dayer.
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The boozing that brings on the late night hunger/overindulgence doesn't help matters either. I know damn well I can drink a good 3,000 calories just in booze alone on an all dayer.
Iron and Woo, try this beer if you can find it. Good stuff.
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The boozing that brings on the late night hunger/overindulgence doesn't help matters either. I know damn well I can drink a good 3,000 calories just in booze alone on an all dayer.
What kind of f@ggy drinks are you drinking, bro? Hard bar all the way. If you stay hydrated enough you should wake up looking shredded the next day with hopefully a very minor hang over.
I guess I'm lucky it doesn't take much for me to get drunk. I always wake up looking awesome as well!
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The boozing that brings on the late night hunger/overindulgence doesn't help matters either. I know damn well I can drink a good 3,000 calories just in booze alone on an all dayer.
Around 30 shots and it's time to go lay down with a hoe. Falcon approved.
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What kind of f@ggy drinks are you drinking, bro? Hard bar all the way. If you stay hydrated enough you should wake up looking shredded the next day with hopefully a very minor hang over.
I guess I'm lucky it doesn't take much for me to get drunk. I always wake up looking awesome as well!
If you're not drinking light beer, throw in some bourbon and cokes, and a few shots, and you're done for.
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Iron and Woo, try this beer if you can find it. Good stuff.
I'll have to check out Total Wine next time I'm there and see if they have it. I'm an Aventinus man myself. The eisbock is 12%. Drink three before goin out and it'll be a long night.
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I'll have to check out Total Wine next time I'm there and see if they have it. I'm an Aventinus man myself. The eisbock is 12%. Drink three before goin out and it'll be a long night.
Can you find eisbock in the states?
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I go to kfc every week while i dont have plan to compete.
I have been a fan of kfc for 33years
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5 pints of beer + 6 cheese burgers + training at 4:00 am was a classic combo when I was a student. Taking a 2 lbs dump too. Great times 8)
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Can you find eisbock in the states?
Looked it up. Never mind
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What kind of f@ggy drinks are you drinking, bro? Hard bar all the way. If you stay hydrated enough you should wake up looking shredded the next day with hopefully a very minor hang over.
I guess I'm lucky it doesn't take much for me to get drunk. I always wake up looking awesome as well!
Hell yeah ...after a night of drinking I wake up full and dry from shitty food and the booze. It's a good combo for me since I'm pretty much low carb day in day out.
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
dryug addict,,,, mental filtth,, look,,, loook just 1 mnth away from gh15 and he already melt like marshmalllwo on fier,,,,
jk ;D
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Live a little, you self obsessed fucks.
I laughed out loud at this for some reason
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Don't sweat it bro, it was fun at the time- right? Just sweat it off in the gym (most of it is water retention due to massive sodium in KFC) and start on your same training diet today...
:)*** We ALL need a cheat meal once in a while to keep us SANE *** ;)
Yea fun night, except for the fact I asked my buddy if this chick was single and he said yes...only to find out he was fucking with me and her bf who she lives with was also there. I was hitting on this chick and got straight up rejected when I asked her out for happy hour this week even though she told me I had nice traps. Then he was fucking cracking up.
That is one notch below cockblocking. That douche
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I go to kfc every week while i dont have plan to compete.
I have been a fan of kfc for 33years
lol'ed again for some reason. I can't be the only one
dryug addict,,,, mental filtth,, look,,, loook just 1 mnth away from gh15 and he already melt like marshmalllwo on fier,,,,
jk ;D
haha I was waiting for this
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I made sure to stare at the big bag the food came in all morning to remind myself of what a repulsive human being I am
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
That's a lot of sodium..might as well have opened up a salt shaker poured it down your throat.
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no fucking life for me without the occasional booze and junk food.
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no fucking life for me without the occasional booze and junk food.
x2. What's the point of working our asses off to look great and do nothing with it? Gotta put that hard work out there on display for the social circles
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x2. What's the point of working our asses off to look great and do nothing with it? Gotta put that hard work out there on display for the social circles
Who needs delicious fried chicken and social interaction when you can eat unseasoned, boiled chicken breast from a Tupperwear container in a room by yourself?
If you really want to spice things up and throw caution to the wind, you can imbibe in a no-calorie soft drink. But not too much of that noise... don't want to cause an unnecessary insulin spike and ruined your entire diet. 8)
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I better be. Supposed to hang out with this cute 21 yr old with huge tits from Tinder who keeps saying how sexy my body is. I can't disappoint this bitch
And this is my 3rd week of dieting. Fuck
nothing a diuretic can not fix in 4 hours ;)
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Who needs delicious fried chicken and social interaction when you can eat unseasoned, boiled chicken breast from a Tupperwear container in a room by yourself?
If you really want to spice things up and throw caution to the wind, you can imbibe in a no-calorie soft drink. But not too much of that noise... don't want to cause an unnecessary insulin spike and ruined your entire diet. 8)
No fucking way man...That's some SERIOUS living right there. It's like snorting coke 7 nights a week off a strippers ass
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nothing a diuretic can not fix in 4 hours ;)
Shit I've never taken one and don't have any in the house. Someone bring me some dyazide
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Shit I've never taken one and don't have any in the house. Someone bring me some dyazide
When I diet, I schedule a cheat meal with Chinese food and the sodium on Chinese food is even double that of KFC so I can easily gain 10lb over night. So I enjoy my meal and 3 hours later pop a lasix and then drink a gallon of water but piss like a race horse every 10 minutes and the next day I am only 3 lb heavier at most, saves the massive guilt trip that makes you want to jump of a building.
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x2. What's the point of working our asses off to look great and do nothing with it? Gotta put that hard work out there on display for the social circles
I find that Chipotle is great alternative to all fast foods...and WaWa subs, which you can get at any hour...some Jack Daniels and a WaWa sub at 2am...
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Some times you need to just pig out.
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No fucking way man...That's some SERIOUS living right there. It's like snorting coke 7 nights a week off a strippers ass
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Bro, you wanna do a line with me? Pick a flavor. ;D
BTW, on the subject of lasix, I met the most fucking jacked up dude in the gym not long ago and we got to talking about PEDs and shit. He said his favorite way to binge is to go to Burger King after smoking a fatty, slams a bunch of Whoppers and pops some lasix. He said he knows it's not good for you (really? lol) but that he looks unreal. He says even taking anadrol and getting a good full body pump doesn't even compare.
I'm still scared to use HCTZ. A little caffeine and ephedrine produce a pretty decent diuretic effect. If I do spin class I get really peeled too. But diuretics scare me. I don't drink nearly enough water as I should so I think I'll probably never use anything more than HCTZ.
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When I diet, I schedule a cheat meal with Chinese food and the sodium on Chinese food is even double that of KFC so I can easily gain 10lb over night. So I enjoy my meal and 3 hours later pop a lasix and then drink a gallon of water but piss like a race horse every 10 minutes and the next day I am only 3 lb heavier at most, saves the massive guilt trip that makes you want to jump of a building.
SOLD. Now I need to find a source that sells dyazide and hope their prices for gear aren't ass high
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hm i find that one big cheat meal even if its 10-15k calories, on a depleted state wont make you (too) fat as long theres a fasting day after that.
but eating 2 or days in a row like that will visible ruin a physiques look.im talking about some solid 4lbs gain of pure fat being possible ;D
No way. i agree that your lines will get fucked up after a 2-day binge but no way are you gaining 4lbs of fat cmon. Shit i might gain 7lbs after a binge but it's all just water rebound and if you get back on track you piss all that out the next day. Unless you guys are talking about some out of this world cheating. Really is eating 10K in a day fun? Going off the deep end like that prob means you're overdieting to begin with thus the need for this massive cheat day. Eat sensible
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Prayer will see you through these trying times.
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No way. i agree that your lines will get fucked up after a 2-day binge but no way are you gaining 4lbs of fat cmon. Shit i might gain 7lbs after a binge but it's all just water rebound and if you get back on track you piss all that out the next day. Unless you guys are talking about some out of this world cheating. Really is eating 10K in a day fun? Going off the deep end like that prob means you're overdieting to begin with thus the need for this massive cheat day. Eat sensible
Completely agree with the logic here
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Prayer will see you through these trying times.
I think I've found god this morning after my actions from last night
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No way. i agree that your lines will get fucked up after a 2-day binge but no way are you gaining 4lbs of fat cmon. Shit i might gain 7lbs after a binge but it's all just water rebound and if you get back on track you piss all that out the next day. Unless you guys are talking about some out of this world cheating. Really is eating 10K in a day fun? Going off the deep end like that prob means you're overdieting to begin with thus the need for this massive cheat day. Eat sensible
It really depends on how lean you are. If you are 5% bodyfat and do a two day binge, you can easily put 4 lb of actual fat on cause your body needs it badly and will store and convert everything, however your body will be a furnace after that.
If you are 10-12% and you do a 2 day binge you are right you will not gain 4lb of fat, maybe 1.5-2.
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It really depends on how lean you are. If you are 5% bodyfat and do a two day binge, you can easily put 4 lb of actual fat on cause your body needs it badly and will store and convert everything, however your body will be a furnace after that.
If you are 10-12% and you do a 2 day binge you are right you will not gain 4lb of fat, maybe 1.5-2.
Kind of funny how this works, eh?
My body is very forgiving at a low body fat. I guess that I probably have a 1 day buffer where I can eat like absolute fucking shit and I'll be fine and dandy, probably a lot better looking the next day to be honest.
But if I do that two days in a row, everything turns to shit. And I don't even know if it's just my imagination, but I swear that my arms, shoulders and legs get smaller too. However, when I'm not as shredded down I can probably tolerate a few days of bad eating. Sort of the reason why I don't really give people cookie cutter advice in real life anymore. I tell them it's something they have to be intuitive about, you can't really tell them exactly what to do because there are so many variables.
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Kind of funny how this works, eh?
My body is very forgiving at a low body fat. I guess that I probably have a 1 day buffer where I can eat like absolute fucking shit and I'll be fine and dandy, probably a lot better looking the next day to be honest.
But if I do that two days in a row, everything turns to shit. And I don't even know if it's just my imagination, but I swear that my arms, shoulders and legs get smaller too. However, when I'm not as shredded down I can probably tolerate a few days of bad eating. Sort of the reason why I don't really give people cookie cutter advice in real life anymore. I tell them it's something they have to be intuitive about, you can't really tell them exactly what to do because there are so many variables.
Ya this exactly right, the first day nothing happens. This is because the body takes longer then 24 to convert anything to fat, including fat macros themselves, 24h is the minimum, so realistically you can eat like a pig and if you do a cardio marathon and pull all the calories out you will never get fat but certainly not worth the trade off. Now at the end of day 2 everything from the first day is starting to convert to actual bodyfat and even if you eat clean on day 3 your body is still converting old calorie storage from day 2 into bodyfat.
And you are also right that everyone is different however I find that the lower in bodyfat the less of a difference people's reaction act with calories, storage and conversion to fat, but certainly not concerning water. Water retention varies greatly among individuals no matter what stage they are at.
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I had pumpkin pie with whipping cream and a yellow pepper for breakfast this morning.
I don't feel guilty at all.
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Kind of funny how this works, eh?
My body is very forgiving at a low body fat. I guess that I probably have a 1 day buffer where I can eat like absolute fucking shit and I'll be fine and dandy, probably a lot better looking the next day to be honest.
But if I do that two days in a row, everything turns to shit. And I don't even know if it's just my imagination, but I swear that my arms, shoulders and legs get smaller too. However, when I'm not as shredded down I can probably tolerate a few days of bad eating. Sort of the reason why I don't really give people cookie cutter advice in real life anymore. I tell them it's something they have to be intuitive about, you can't really tell them exactly what to do because there are so many variables.
Exactly the same thing happens with me. Two straight days of it and it's a mess
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Ya this exactly right, the first day nothing happens. This is because the body takes longer then 24 to convert anything to fat, including fat macros themselves, 24h is the minimum, so realistically you can eat like a pig and if you do a cardio marathon and pull all the calories out you will never get fat but certainly not worth the trade off. Now at the end of day 2 everything from the first day is starting to convert to actual bodyfat and even if you eat clean on day 3 your body is still converting old calorie storage from day 2 into bodyfat.
You cant get fat in a day no matter what you eat.
I think two days is pushing it as well, it also depends on what you do on day three onwards.
I used to diet monday to friday and have weekends off and it didnt affect my overall fat loss.
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Exactly the same thing happens with me. Two straight days of it and it's a mess
Its just water.
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You cant get fat in a day no matter what you eat.
I think two days is pushing it as well, it also depends on what you do on day three onwards.
I used to diet monday to friday and have weekends off and it didnt affect my overall fat loss.
No one is saying 2 days eating will get you fat within the 2 days. Two days eating can get you very fat but the fat will not come until day 3 and 4 cause that is when the conversion to fat takes place from the stored calories that you ate on day 1 and 2, get it now.
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No one is saying 2 days eating will get you fat within the 2 days. Two days eating can get you very fat but the fat will not come until day 3 and 4 cause that is when the conversion to fat takes place from the stored calories that you ate on day 1 and 2, get it now.
Oh brother. ::)
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It really depends on how lean you are. If you are 5% bodyfat and do a two day binge, you can easily put 4 lb of actual fat on cause your body needs it badly and will store and convert everything, however your body will be a furnace after that.
If you are 10-12% and you do a 2 day binge you are right you will not gain 4lb of fat, maybe 1.5-2.
really? i have never heard that or seen that on myself. i can understand gaining tons of weight on a 2 day binge like I have done myself in the past but I always assumed its was 95% water gain.
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Oh brother. ::)
oh brother what?, tell me I am wrong so you can look fucken stupid, this is exactly the way it works and only people like you who have a hard time getting into shape will never agree with what is right cause you are to ignorant and stubborn and yopur physique pays the price cause you will never look good..
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really? i have never heard that or seen that on myself. i can understand gaining tons of weight on a 2 day binge like I have done myself in the past but I always assumed its was 95% water gain.
The weight is 80-90% water but we are talking 10+ lb on a two day bing, actually I have gained over 15lb so 10-20% fat still equals 2-4 lb of bodyfat.
I think you are not defining what a binge means, I think you guys have this impression of a couple burgers and fries, lol. I am talking about buffet 3 times a day and massive amounts of junk food in between, that is a binge, fucken right you are putting on bodyfat.
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Goddam... 18 bucks at a KFC for 1 person is ridiculous!!!
I can't eat more than 8 bucks of it by myself.... goddam!!!
You will have massive shits today.
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Goddam... 18 bucks at a KFC for 1 person is ridiculous!!!
I can't eat more than 8 bucks of it by myself.... goddam!!!
You will have massive shits today.
;D
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The weight is 80-90% water but we are talking 10+ lb on a two day bing, actually I have gained over 15lb so 10-20% fat still equals 2-4 lb of bodyfat.
I think you are not defining what a binge means, I think you guys have this impression of a couple burgers and fries, lol. I am talking about buffet 3 times a day and massive amounts of junk food in between, that is a binge, fucken right you are putting on bodyfat.
yea i hear ya bro. im talking about eating like a pig at the trough! i still assumed that in a short period like 2 days the actual fat gain would be minimal.
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yea i hear ya bro. im talking about eating like a pig at the trough! i still assumed that in a short period like 2 days the actual fat gain would be minimal.
People think that because they go back to dieting but if you dieted 2 days on 2 days off you would be fat as fuck.
Now I will tell you a story about 2007 when I did my first show; I dieted down from a fat 230 and was pretty much contest ready at 193 the day before the show. Now I did not take one cheat meal the entire 12 weeks of dieting, not one, I am very disciplined and I don't cheat unless it is scheduled, no matter what, my word...
Now I did not know about diuretics that much so I popped some lasix at the last minute the night before and pissed like a race horse all night long, when I weighed in, I was 183 and flat as a pancake, so I started eating like crazy and was cramping a bit, it was a tough time. So I barely survived this, luckily I won the light-heavies and the overall (35 bodybuilders).
As soon as the show was done I started eating and drinking like crazy and my hunger kept coming non stop, because I didn't indulge in so long I could not turn it off and ate like you would not believe for 4 days straight and on the wednesday I weighed 220lb. I know hard to believe but I am not lying.
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No one is saying 2 days eating will get you fat within the 2 days. Two days eating can get you very fat but the fat will not come until day 3 and 4 cause that is when the conversion to fat takes place from the stored calories that you ate on day 1 and 2, get it now.
I wrote
You cant get fat in a day no matter what you eat.
I think two days is pushing it as well, it also depends on what you do on day three onwards.
I used to diet monday to friday and have weekends off and it didnt affect my overall fat loss.
Yep, I get it all right.
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As soon as the show was done I started eating and drinking like crazy and my hunger kept coming non stop, because I didn't indulge in so long I could not turn it off and ate like you would not believe for 4 days straight and on the wednesday I weighed 220lb. I know hard to believe but I am not lying.
All water weight rebound, it wasnt fat weight.
Some people call it super-compensation.
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I wroteYep, I get it all right.
I see :)
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All water weight rebound, it wasnt fat weight.
Some people call it super-compensation.
That is 37lb of bodyweight, there is easily 12+lb of bodyfat there and of course the rest water.
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Plenty of water in white adipose tissue. If you've already eaten more than you need to, lipids can just go right to WAT, along with carbs and protein a little while afterwards. I also think the elasticity of WAT should be considered too. Think of a stretched out water balloon. Once it's stretched, it's easy to stretch out. And when it's rigid, it's tougher to stretch out.
Of course that few day binge will come off pretty easy, but it's just crazy how the body works... I like staying lean because when I do binge, it can come off without very much difficulty unless I let it sit there and really solidify. I don't have all the right scientific explanations for it, but let a pot of rendered down fat sit for a few days and look at how hard it is. If it's heated up, different story.
When you diet down on high amounts of androgens, beta-2 stimulants and GH you really fuck the shit out of WAT and make it tough to get fat again. That's why when I diet, I like to diet really hard so it's tough to plump up again. That's been my observations at least. People's bodies are different and there are so many variables. Maybe I'm wrong as well... I don't know lol
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That is 37lb of bodyweight, there is easily 12+lb of bodyfat there and of course the rest water.
So you think you gained 12lbs of fat in 4 days?
You would have to eat a minimum of 41,000 cals over your maintenance to do that.
Now bearing in mind the first two days eating takes until day three to start converting to fat and if thats the case days three and four wouldn't start until day five, then Im pretty sure it doesn't make sense now.
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So you think you gained 12lbs of fat in 4 days?
You would have to eat a minimum of 41,000 cals over your maintenance to do that.
Now bearing in mind the first two days eating takes until day three to start converting to fat and if thats the case days three and four wouldn't start until day five, then Im pretty sure it doesn't make sense now.
The weight of the converted fat from day 5 and 6 would still be in my body on day 4 so just cause it has not turned over yet, the harm is done and it does already equal 12 of fat cause the process can not be reversed at this point unless i ran a marathon or 2 so yes it does make perfect sense.
Now don't tell me you believe in that 3500 calorie equals a pound of fat BS, while that may be true for the average person, my body at this point is requiring fat and begging for it so the conversion from calories to fat is way lower then 3500 calories per lb of fat.
40 000? hell no, I ate waaaaaaaaaaay more then that in 4 days. the night of the show I ate 3 full meals, ribs, steak and chiken from a restaurant and 2 pitchers of coke and half a cake then a couple hours later before bed I ate a large pizza and ate an entire box of oreo cookies while I was sleeping, didn't even know, the next day ate all day long every hour, it was crazy.
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The weight of the converted fat from day 5 and 6 would still be in my body so just cause it has not turned over yet, the harm is done and it does already equal 12 of fat cause the process can not be reversed at this point so unless i ran a marathon or 2 so yes it does make perfect sense.
You only made it to day 4 which was the Wednesday I believe. ;)
Days 5 and 6 dont count.
and ate an entire box of oreo cookies while I was sleeping, didn't even know,
??? ??? ??? ???
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
Lol. It's not that serious :D
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You only made it to day 4 which was the Wednesday I believe. ;)
Days 5 and 6 dont count.
you are splitting hairs to be politically correct and totally missing the point so I will agree with you since you are being annoying :-\ ;).... that maybe only half of the 12 pounds I claim has been so far on day 4 converted to fat and the other half is on it's way to be converted to fat several days later, but what's the difference, the harm is done and the weight is already in you so who cares, the bottom line is that I gained over 12lb of fat from 4 days of eating. ;) :P ;D lol
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you are splitting hairs to be politically correct and totally missing the point so I will agree with you since you are being annoying .... that maybe only half of the 12 pounds I claim has been so far on day 4 converted to fat and the other half is on it's way to be converted to fat several days later, but what's the difference, the harm is done and the weight is already in you so who cares, the bottom line is that I gained over 12lb of fat from 4 days of eating. lol
So the added fat weight was down to the continued high calorie consumption after the 4 days?
All sorted now. ;)
On another point the fact that you were depleted would allow your body to store glycogen and not convert it to fat as fast as if you were fully loaded like a fat person would.
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onetime, it was mostly water brah. I SWEAR TO GOD! :D
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Careful Bouncer, he can turn. ;D
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onetime, it was mostly water brah. I SWEAR TO GOD! :D
I always said in each and everyone of my post that it was mostly water ;)
You guys are making it sound like I am saying it is not mostly water so here is some grade 2 math for you guys :D ;D
37lb weight gain
12lb of fat
that leaves 25lb of water
hmmmmm let's get the grade 2 student in here :D .... 25lb of water out 37 = mostly water, .lol :)
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Careful Bouncer, he can turn. ;D
I don't turn, bouncer and I are cool and that was an inside joke, made me laugh. ;)
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You didnt gain 12lbs of fat in 4 days.
Which was your original claim. ;)
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So the added fat weight was down to the continued high calorie consumption after the 4 days?
All sorted now. ;)
On another point the fact that you were depleted would allow your body to store glycogen and not convert it to fat as fast as if you were fully loaded like a fat person would.
Bro honestly I have a hard time understanding the meaning behind your words sometimes and I don't mean this in a bad way it's just you guys talk differently over there, could you re-word this Q?
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You didnt gain 12lbs of fat in 4 days.
Which was your original claim. ;)
OK but that is not what I meant so sue me, what I meant was I gained 12 pounds of bodyfat in 4 days worth of eating, fuckman, I have to walk on egg shells around you 8)
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you boys ;D
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Can you find eisbock in the states?
You now know what you must do...
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OK but that is not what I meant so sue me, what I meant was I gained 12 pounds of bodyfat in 4 days worth of eating, fuckman, I have to walk on egg shells around you
No you didnt, if you had stopped eating on day five and not eaten anything else for a week you would not have gained 12lbs of fat ;)
My point is it was the continued eating over the following days that attributed the fat gain, the first 4 days was water.
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holy shit this fat to water discussion is boring as fuck. Can we go back to talking about how miserable I feel from eating drunken KFC?
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No you didnt, if you had stopped eating on day five and not eaten anything else for a week you would not have gained 12lbs of fat ;)
My point is it was the continued eating over the following days that attributed the fat gain, the first 4 days was water.
Now you are being very dumb, I did a bodyfat test on day 5 and tested 10% and on the day before the show I was 4% bodyfat so :P :P :P :P
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Now you are being very dumb, I did a bodyfat test on day 5 and tested 10% and on the day before the show I was 4% bodyfat so
Now you are just making stuff up. ;D
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holy shit this fat to water discussion is boring as fuck. Can we go back to talking about how miserable I feel from eating drunken KFC?
My bad bro lol ;D it's just a 2+2=4 discussion with ukjeff turns into a 2+2=10+6+12+3+4-5-20-6=4 8)
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Now you are just making stuff up. ;D
I know you are but what am ? holy fuck man,... give it a rest.
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onetime, it was mostly water brah. I SWEAR TO GOD! :D
Who the fuck says "brah" ???
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I know you are but what am ? holy fuck man,... give it a rest.
I have just taken my body fat measurement in case I need to use it to add weight to an argument years later on an internet forum. ;D
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Who the fuck says "brah" ???
100% of the misc section on bb.com
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fasting as long as possible afterwards limits the damage alot for me :D
I find that I get used to this pretty fast. Normally for breakfast I just have a bowl of oatmeal (~ 300 kcal) and maybe a Greek yogurt (no homo). The other day I went to McDonald's and had two breakfast burritos, two hash browns, and a most of a large coffee, probably well over 1000 kcal and I wasn't hungry again until like 5:00 that evening.
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nah jeff, for me 2 days of 10-15k calories in a row will put on a bit feelable fat on me.along with the water.
TBH are you really eating 15,000 cals on consecutive days?
I once tried eating 6,000 cals, I managed one day and then was just sick of food, I was bunged up to fuck the day after.
I very rarely eat over 4,000 a day.
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Who the fuck says "brah" ???
me, its a new trend i'm starting. mind your business. :D
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I have just taken my body fat measurement in case I need to use it to add weight to an argument years later on an internet forum. ;D
One thing is for certain about me brother and that is I take extreme pride in NOT LYING, I never lie, no matter what, you will never catch me lying, I keep it real and tell the truth always.
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TBH are you really eating 15,000 cals on consecutive days?
I once tried eating 6,000 cals, I managed one day and then was just sick of food, I was bunged up to fuck the day after.
I very rarely eat over 4,000 a day.
That's cause you are a light weight, can't cut the mustard :D
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What did you test your bodyfat level with?
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What did you test your bodyfat level with?
Probably the same thing that tested Flex Wheelers at 0% (bb related)
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That's cause you are a light weight, can't cut the mustard
Thats light-heavyweight I will have you know. ;D
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What did you test your bodyfat level with?
I was working at a gym at the time that had electronic bodyfat testing and I always used the calipers but the gym expected the PTs to use their method so when I did my first show, I used both methods periodically. The electronic way showed my bodyfat at 6 % 3 days before the show and the following thurs day it showed 13 while the calipers showed ten. The electronic way was always higher then the calipers.
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Thats light-heavyweight I will have you know. ;D
It's a metaphor to say you are a pansy, but I was joking anyhow, I know you are a light heavy bro, lol. ;)
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Probably the same thing that tested Flex Wheelers at 0% (bb related)
Flex was never leaner then a prime Dorian so that throws that one out the window
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It's a metaphor to say you are a pansy, but I was joking anyhow, I know you are a light heavy bro, lol
I know, it means the same in the UK.
I guess humour doesnt always transfer well via text
Oh, Im bored with the 12lb weight gain stuff now, you win. ;D
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I know, it means the same in the UK.
I guess humour doesnt always transfer well via text
Oh, Im bored with the 12lb weight gain stuff now, you win. ;D
I thought we already established that you won ??? :D
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We did but you wanted to talk about callipers and electronic weighing, it bores me to tears.
I just dont see the point of ever doing it.
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I always loved the fat whores at "the bar" who would order their mixed drinks with Diet Coke haha :D
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How the fuck do you eat 10,000 calories in one meal? That's equal to like three large Pizza Hut Meat Lovers (no homo) or 18 Big Macs.
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Yeah I guess if you load up on really dense food like chocolate etc. then maybe it's possible.
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lol some future fat fucks in this thread, those are monster binges
I did 4000 cals yesterday and felt like shit. So today I ate the same but burned 1500 cals on the incline treadmill over two sessions, which sucked but put me back. that reminds you not to fuck up again or you have to work it off. I hate cutting out food the next day, makes me feel weak and want to binge
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I wouldn't say 4000 kcal is a lot really unless the person is very small. Basal metabolism (i.e. the calories you burn by doing absolutely nothing all day) is around 2000 kcal, higher than that if you're really big and lean. If you're really active you could easily eat 4000 kcal on a frequent basis and not gain much weight.
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I wouldn't say 4000 kcal is a lot really unless the person is very small. Basal metabolism (i.e. the calories you burn by doing absolutely nothing all day) is around 2000 kcal, higher than that if you're really big and lean. If you're really active you could easily eat 4000 kcal on a frequent basis and not gain much weight.
it's a lot for me, my thyroid and metabolism are SHIT. I have to diet at 2000-2500 a day and binges set me back a week if I let them.
I wish I could be one of those kids who can eat a jar of peanut butter every day :(
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yeah muscular guy whos active al day,as in,has job, trains and goes out a bit will easy burn 4000calories, one with job like oth even more
sorry guys but naturals cant do what you guys do. Drugs take out most of the guesswork. Thats why I want them.
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you guys are a bunch of pussies with your binge eating
christ! i've been eating only 1600-2000 cals per day EVERYDAY and i have no inclination to binge
my biggest "binge" has been 600 cals more than normal maybe once a week
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You guys are pussies. Just eat good amount of fried chicken and dont eat carbs all that day long and i bet you that still you keep on staying lean. Dont count calories that much. Instead, control your carb intake.
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yeah muscular guy whos active al day,as in,has job, trains and goes out a bit will easy burn 4000calories, one with job like oth even more
this is true. Thats why the ony fat builders you see are the bosses. Having a manual job makes gaining weight the problem .
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You guys are pussies. Just eat good amount of fried chicken and dont eat carbs all that day long and i bet you that still you keep on staying lean. Dont count calories that much. Instead, control your carb intake.
Heres another numbnuts who doesnt understand calorific intake. ;D
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Heres another numbnuts who doesnt understand calorific intake. ;D
agreed ;)
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I always loved the fat whores at "the bar" who would order their mixed drinks with Diet Coke haha :D
I do this too jerkoff!
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I do this too jerkoff!
haha me too. diet coke and capt all day baby. no need for extra sugar if you dont need it.
i get his point about the fat women though. like who are they trying to kid with "diet", they dont know the fucken definition of the word. :D
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Breakfast of champions right there.
Cant get fat eating as much of that as you like. ::)
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They have a $4.99 all you can eat buffet here on Sunday. Think I might go pound chicken livers, mashed potatoes, corn, green beans and carrots. I don't care for the regular chicken much anymore.
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Seriously guys.. imagine being 80 years old, being ripped like Sev all your life.. then moments before you die you think of all the nice food you DIDN'T eat. Live a little.
I'm not saying to get fat.. but these foods are epic.
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haha me too. diet coke and capt all day baby. no need for extra sugar if you dont need it.
i get his point about the fat women though. like who are they trying to kid with "diet", they dont know the fucken definition of the word. :D
For sure. I love captain and diet (or coke zero). I also like vodka and sprite zero. I mean shit why take in sugars and bloat yourself if you don't have to?
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Seriously guys.. imagine being 80 years old, being ripped like Sev all your life.. then moments before you die you think of all the nice food you DIDN'T eat. Live a little.
I'm not saying to get fat.. but these foods are epic.
My problem is I live too much when it comes to food so I find myself upping tren and gh doses to compensate. It's horrible
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Seriously guys.. imagine being 80 years old, being ripped like Sev all your life.. then moments before you die you think of all the nice food you DIDN'T eat. Live a little.
I'm not saying to get fat.. but these foods are epic.
you can still eat these "nice foods" just as long as you don't eat too much of them and keep your daily calorie consumption in check
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
As long a u have trenbelona in u system u be just fine my man . . just fine.
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As long a u have trenbelona in u system u be just fine my man . . just fine.
That's the thing, I don't!
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That's the thing, I don't!
lol
No need to worry.
Girls could care less if you're 10% or 6%. Have a little balance bro... this stupid compulsive bbing mentality translates to leaness too not just size. Don't let it affect you in a negative way.
Easier said than done. :(
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That's the thing, I don't!
and i cant! even the lowest of dose tren gives me puffy nips and turns me into an absolute fucken asshole. lol
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Seriously guys.. imagine being 80 years old, being ripped like Sev all your life.. then moments before you die you think of all the nice food you DIDN'T eat. Live a little.
I'm not saying to get fat.. but these foods are epic.
Good point.
But it's not the food you'll regret not eating. It will be those events you missed or didn't enjoy because you were too strict on your diet. No one outside of this weird bbing obsession/cult can tell or even cares if you're 10% or 6%. Pretty easy to stay somewhere in between that and still enjoy life.
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and i cant! even the lowest of dose tren gives me puffy nips and turns me into an absolute fucken asshole. lol
That sucks. Only side I get with tren is sweating and decreased endurance
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I don't really agree with you guys. I feel like I can still look good and have fun at the same time. Just have to plan ahead and set aside a friday or saturday night as the time you are going to have a cheat meal or 2 and some drinks. I do it all the time. I dont feel like I am missing out on anything and I certainly look better then average joe belly at the bar.
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Bounce
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I don't really agree with you guys. I feel like I can still look good and have fun at the same time. Just have to plan ahead and set aside a friday or saturday night as the time you are going to have a cheat meal or 2 and some drinks. I do it all the time. I dont feel like I am missing out on anything and I certainly look better then average joe belly at the bar.
Yeah you should unless you're getting ready for a competition.
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AMD, i have the tinder app downloaded, but cant figure out how to put a picture of my self on it ? it seems only fb pictures can be used, and I only have pictures of my self with a group of people and mates on there.
What should I do to upload a selfie without it going on FB
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i cheat every saturday n im still dropping the lbs, as long as a person is eating clean 6 days aweek a cheat day wont hurt,it actually helps imo
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I don't really agree with you guys. I feel like I can still look good and have fun at the same time. Just have to plan ahead and set aside a friday or saturday night as the time you are going to have a cheat meal or 2 and some drinks. I do it all the time. I dont feel like I am missing out on anything and I certainly look better then average joe belly at the bar.
Last summer I was eating like complete shit but I was on 700mg tren and 10iu of gh per day (along with 700mg test prop). I looked fucking great no matter what the hell I ate. Problem is all that food was expensive and all that gear + gh was expensive. Not to mention it was a pretty unhealthy summer. But hey, I had a great fucking time
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Last summer I was eating like complete shit but I was on 700mg tren and 10iu of gh per day (along with 700mg test prop). I looked fucking great no matter what the hell I ate. Problem is all that food was expensive and all that gear + gh was expensive. Not to mention it was a pretty unhealthy summer. But hey, I had a great fucking time
which gh were you on
could you sleep on all that tren
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AMD, i have the tinder app downloaded, but cant figure out how to put a picture of my self on it ? it seems only fb pictures can be used, and I only have pictures of my self with a group of people and mates on there.
What should I do to upload a selfie without it going on FB
You can only use your facebook pics because the app links with your facebook profile. However it will never say on facebook that you have the Tinder app so you don't need to worry about that. If anything, upload pics to facebook you want to use, then select those on your tinder app
If you want to upload a selfie but have no one of FB see it...upload it on FB, then quickly click the upper right circle thing and set your privacy so that only you can see it. The pic will be in your photos, but only you will be able to see it. I have tons of pics of me hidden on facebook that I don't want people to see.
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which gh were you on
could you sleep on all that tren
riptropin as always. Yes I had no problems sleeping. Just was a sweaty bastard all the time
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I was on 700mg tren and 10iu of gh per day (along with 700mg test prop).
lmfao. christ bro, your 3 years younger then me running doses 3 times as high. calm that shit down. what the fuck you gonna run when your 35? 10 grams? :D
i dont know how the hell you ran 10iu gh. i ran 4iu last summer and my hands were painful as fuck.
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lmfao. christ bro, your 3 years younger then me running doses 3 times as high. calm that shit down. what the fuck you gonna run when your 35? 10 grams? :D
i dont know how the hell you ran 10iu gh. i ran 4iu last summer and my hands were painful as fuck.
Yea but I run much less now because I'm not trying to gain size. I usually do 5iu but kicked it up for a couple of months to 10iu to maximize a growth phase. It was horrible though because it made me feel so tired. Right now I'm cruising and only doing 3.33iu gh (1/3 a vial). This summer I'm just doing
210mg test prop
490mg tren ace
700mg mast prop
5iu gh
Mast really isn't much of a health risk so really the only thing there that isn't good for me is the 490mg of tren.
2cc shots a day total right there
I have not gone over 700mg of tren and never will. I won't be giving phil heath a run for his olympia anytime soon so I'm just trying to stay ripped and have solid muscles.
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Yea but I run much less now because I'm not trying to gain size. I usually do 5iu but kicked it up for a couple of months to 10iu to maximize a growth phase. It was horrible though because it made me feel so tired. Right now I'm cruising and only doing 3.33iu gh (1/3 a vial). This summer I'm just doing
210mg test prop
490mg tren ace
700mg mast prop
5iu gh
Mast really isn't much of a health risk so really the only thing there that isn't good for me is the 490mg of tren.
2cc shots a day total right there
I have not gone over 700mg of tren and never will. I won't be giving phil heath a run for his olympia anytime soon so I'm just trying to stay ripped and have solid muscles.
try bumping the mast and dropping the tren
some of the top guys at my gym run high dose mast with low dose test
they look awesome
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lmfao. christ bro, your 3 years younger then me running doses 3 times as high. calm that shit down. what the fuck you gonna run when your 35? 10 grams? :D
i dont know how the hell you ran 10iu gh. i ran 4iu last summer and my hands were painful as fuck.
come on bro, that ain't crazy, that is average.
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Yea but I run much less now because I'm not trying to gain size. I usually do 5iu but kicked it up for a couple of months to 10iu to maximize a growth phase. It was horrible though because it made me feel so tired. Right now I'm cruising and only doing 3.33iu gh (1/3 a vial). This summer I'm just doing
210mg test prop
490mg tren ace
700mg mast prop
5iu gh
Mast really isn't much of a health risk so really the only thing there that isn't good for me is the 490mg of tren.
2cc shots a day total right there
I have not gone over 700mg of tren and never will. I won't be giving phil heath a run for his olympia anytime soon so I'm just trying to stay ripped and have solid muscles.
TBH mate I would want to be standing alongside Phil Heath to justify that amount.
To be running that just to look good in the gym is insane.
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try bumping the mast and dropping the tren
some of the top guys at my gym run high dose mast with low dose test
they look awesome
Problem is I often go out to dinner 5 days a week with various people, and I like to order whatever is on the menu. If I dropped the tren, I lose the leverage of staying lean with cheat meals.
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TBH mate I would want to be standing alongside Phil Heath to justify that amount.
To be running that just to look good in the gym is insane.
That is because you are naive.
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TBH mate I would want to be standing alongside Phil Heath to justify that amount.
To be running that just to look good in the gym is insane.
Who says I do it to look good in the gym? I do it to look good OUTSIDE the gym. Competing in bodybuilding shows is a poor excuse for someone to abuse drugs, unless they were ifbb pro caliber
Also, those are baby doses. Let's be serious. Masteron doesn't count
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Also, those are baby doses. Let's be serious. Masteron doesn't count
I keep hearing all these stories about how much guys are taking and TBH I think it must be down to the fact that the gear today is shit.
That is because you are naive.
Maybe so but I managed to compete at a decent level and my precontest use was 750mgs per week total.
In fact I once tried a gram of test and it made me ill, I lasted two weeks.
The only explanation is that todays stuff is shit.
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Who says I do it to look good in the gym? I do it to look good OUTSIDE the gym. Competing in bodybuilding shows is a poor excuse for someone to abuse drugs, unless they were ifbb pro caliber
Also, those are baby doses. Let's be serious. Masteron doesn't count
Those are baby doses and UKjeff had a good physique but he was never huge so a statement like his coming from him is like an oxy-moron :)
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Those are baby doses and UKjeff had a good physique but he was never huge so a statement like his coming from him is like an oxy-moron
Are you suggesting size equates to dosage?
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Are you suggesting size equates to dosage?
of course it does Einstein, wtf are you dumb?
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of course it does Einstein, wtf are you dumb?
So are you saying the more I take the bigger I will get?
Careful now...... ;)
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So are you saying the more I take the bigger I will get?
Careful now...... ;)
nothing to be careful about,... it is common sense, the more you take the bigger you will get according to your genetic limitations and how fast your body reacts to growing muscles. And if you want to talk about higher doses in the range of diminishing returns, those doses stated above are no where near that point
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No fucking way man...That's some SERIOUS living right there. It's like snorting coke 7 nights a week off a strippers ass
;D
ever try doing a line that goes up to her chest?
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nothing to be careful about,... it is common sense, the more you take the bigger you will get according to your genetic limitations and how fast your body reacts to growing muscles. And if you want to talk about higher doses in the range of diminishing returns, those doses stated above are no where near that point
So how do you explain guys taking a few mgs a week and gaining 20lbs of good tissue and then later taking upwards of 4gms and staying the same?
Most pros dont change for years once they turn pro.
Surely they could carry on growing by simply upping the dosage, thats if your theory is sound.
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So how do you explain guys taking a few mgs a week and gaining 20lbs of good tissue and then later taking upwards of 4gms and staying the same?
Most pros dont change for years once they turn pro.
Surely they could carry on growing by simply upping the dosage, thats if your theory is sound.
they don't stay the same, you are talking shit, I have never seen that in my life, ever. Anyone that goes from 500 mgs a week to 4 grams, as you put it, will get bigger, who ever thinks otherwise is just a sheer imbecile to the highest degree and is a pure shit talker
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why didn't you cook some good food yourself instead? KFC is all flavor enhancing, worse quality than dog food.
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Anyone that goes from 500 mgs a week to 4 grams, as you put it, will get bigger, who ever thinks otherwise is just a sheer imbecile to the highest degree and is a pure shit talker
You missed the point.
If someone takes 25mgs a week for 16 weeks and gains 20lbs of good tissue how much will they gain taking 4gms a week for the same duration.
Roughly?
2008 to 2009
(http://i34.tinypic.com/afedfk.jpg)
and 2012
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Mr_Olympia_2012_Phil_Heath_4.jpg)
Phils hardly changed, why is that?
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So are you saying the more I take the bigger I will get?
Careful now...... ;)
Yes, as long as you slowly build your doses up over time.
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why didn't you cook some good food yourself instead? KFC is all flavor enhancing, worse quality than dog food.
You really think this thought crosses my head when I am drunk at 3am leaving a bar?
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You missed the point.
If someone takes 25mgs a week for 16 weeks and gains 20lbs of good tissue how much will they gain taking 4gms a week for the same duration.
Roughly?
2008 to 2009
(http://i34.tinypic.com/afedfk.jpg)
and 2012
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Mr_Olympia_2012_Phil_Heath_4.jpg)
Phils hardly changed, why is that?
He hasn't changed because he probably used the same doses and he is already so huge that his body has an extremely hard time growing anymore. He likely hit his limit
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Yes, as long as you slowly build your doses up over time.
earlier
Last summer I was eating like complete shit but I was on 700mg tren and 10iu of gh per day (along with 700mg test prop). I looked fucking great no matter what the hell I ate. Problem is all that food was expensive and all that gear + gh was expensive. Not to mention it was a pretty unhealthy summer. But hey, I had a great fucking time
How long did it take you to work up slowly to that?
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earlierHow long did it take you to work up slowly to that?
2 years
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He hasn't changed because he probably used the same doses and he is already so huge that his body has an extremely hard time growing anymore. He likely hit his limit
He was only training 3 years before he turned pro???
So he must have just gone straight on the dosages he is using now?
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2 years
Can you remember your first cycle?
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Can you remember your first cycle?
I can. never forget..
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He was only training 3 years before he turned pro???
So he must have just gone straight on the dosages he is using now?
I misread the pics. didn't realize there was a 4 year gap. Yea of course he upped his doses but I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Can you remember your first cycle?
500mg of test prop
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I can. never forget..
I almost added not the one with "stabilisers" ;D
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You missed the point.
If someone takes 25mgs a week for 16 weeks and gains 20lbs of good tissue how much will they gain taking 4gms a week for the same duration.
Roughly?
2008 to 2009
(http://i34.tinypic.com/afedfk.jpg)
and 2012
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Mr_Olympia_2012_Phil_Heath_4.jpg)
Phils hardly changed, why is that?
You have got to be the biggest retard on the planet, seriously it is astounding how stupid you are,.. why are you making things so complicated, sorry but will not debate this horse shit with you.
you take 500 mg per week and gain muscle until you will no longer gain anymore on that dose then up it to 1000 then 999 out of 1000 people will get bigger, fuck bro don't play dumb and bring up these retarded scenarios, this is common fucken sense, you are the biggest fool on getbig to even argue this.
And why are you showing the 2 best bodybuilders on the planet when they are near human limitation of muscular development, WTF dumbass
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I misread the pics. didn't realize there was a 4 year gap. Yea of course he upped his doses but I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
The point is he may not have upped his dosage, he may have been on high dosages from day one.
500mg of test prop
Really?
I only took 750mgs a week after 8 years of competing.
My first cycle was 16mgs of Winstrol tabs.
I blew up like a balloon.
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The point is he may not have upped his dosage, he may have been on high dosages from day one.Really?
I only took 750mgs a week after 8 years of competing.
My first cycle was 16mgs of Winstrol tabs.
I blew up like a balloon.
Well good for you. You must have ifbb pro genetics then. Anyone who uses less than 500mg of test is wasting their time being shutdown and seeing barely any progress. I'm trying to play nice but you are testing my generosity here.
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The point is he may not have upped his dosage, he may have been on high dosages from day one.Really?
I only took 750mgs a week after 8 years of competing.
My first cycle was 16mgs of Winstrol tabs.
I blew up like a balloon.
8 years of competing and you only managed to get to that size, well duh, no wonder you were taking pansy dosages, had you upped the dose you would have been a heavy weight where someone with your height belongs..
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you take 500 mg per week and gain muscle until you will no longer gain anymore on that dose then up it to 1000 then 999 out of 1000 people will get bigger, fuck bro don't play dumb and bring up these retarded scenarios, this is common fucken sense, you are the biggest fool on getbig to even argue this.
Maybe "common sense" would tell you to cycle up and down rather than maxing out and then going higher and higher.
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8 years of competing and you only managed to get to that size, well duh, no wonder you were taking pansy dosages, had you upped the dose you would have been a heavy weight where someone with your height belongs..
Or maybe my genetics wouldnt allow me to gain anymore?
Or doesnt that matter if you keep upping the dose?
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Or maybe my genetics wouldnt allow me to gain anymore?
Or doesnt that matter if you keep upping the dose?
If you upped the dose or added compounds, you would have gotten bigger. That is a fact, not a debate.
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If you upped the dose or added compounds, you would have gotten bigger. That is a fact, not a debate.
So why isnt Phil getting that much bigger?
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Maybe "common sense" would tell you to cycle up and down rather than maxing out and then going higher and higher.
lmao, i took two years off cold turkey in 2010 and 2011 and right now I have been off for nearly 6 weeks, taking nothing at all. So what the fuck are you talking about?
When I do get back on once my hamstring heals I will start 1000mg per week for a month, then 2000 for a month, then 3000 from then on
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If you upped the dose or added compounds, you would have gotten bigger. That is a fact, not a debate.
^^^^ this is a fact 100%, but you are talking to a bonehead here
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lmao, i took two years off cold turkey in 2010 and 2011 and right now I have been off for nearly 6 weeks, taking nothing at all. So what the fuck are you talking about?
its not about you, I was generalising.
When I do get back on once my hamstring heals I will start 1000mg per week for a month, then 2000 for a month, then 3000 from then on
...and then I will............????
Nothing.
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So why isnt Phil getting that much bigger?
Phil is at the Human limitations for his frame and you are a skinny dude in comparison so why are you comparing yourself to Phil, also his doses are way higher, probably at the highest he can actually benefit from so him upping it may not do anything but anyone taking less then a gram is a whole different ball park
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^^^^ this is a fact 100%, but you are talking to a bonehead here
Regardless of genetic limitations?
Remember what you said earlier.
it is common sense, the more you take the bigger you will get according to your genetic limitations and how fast your body reacts to growing muscles.
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I laughed out loud at this for some reason
Yea fun night, except for the fact I asked my buddy if this chick was single and he said yes...only to find out he was fucking with me and her bf who she lives with was also there. I was hitting on this chick and got straight up rejected when I asked her out for happy hour this week even though she told me I had nice traps. Then he was fucking cracking up.
That is one notch below cockblocking. That douche
^^
Don't worry- when they break-up (which happens) she'll be knocking on your door again... slam it in her face ;)
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Phil is at the Human limitations for his frame and you are a skinny dude in comparison so why are you comparing yourself to Phil,
Im not, Im generalising.
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Regardless of genetic limitations?
Remember what you said earlier.
If your genetics only allow for 750mg to cause you a limit in muscle growth I feel sorry for you bro, worse genetics in the history of mankind.
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If your genetics only allow for 750mg to cause you a limit in muscle growth I feel sorry for you bro, worse genetics in the history of mankind.
Really, I achieved more than you did on the dosages I used than you ever could.
So now who's got bad genetics? ;)
oh and why haven't you improved in the last 5 years?
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ukjeff giving a masterwork discourse on trolling in this thread
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Really, I achieved more than you did on the dosages I used than you ever could.
So now who's got bad genetics? ;)
You are not on my level bro, don't even go there
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So why isnt Phil getting that much bigger?
He was already huge and competing at the Olympia. It is a hell of a lot easier to grow when you're small than when you're huge. Of course at some point, 4000mg of deca isn't going to make a guy grow that is 260-300lbs of muscle at 5'10 (giving an example. not necessarily Heath) if he was previously taking 3000mg. If you could keep growing, then we would have 500lbs freaks walking around
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If you could keep growing, then we would have 500lbs freaks walking around
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You are not on my level bro, don't even go there
But I would be if I had upped the dosage, it would have been that simple wouldn't it?
Why havent you carried on improving in the last five years with all these grams of gear?
Heres your legs in October 2008
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=238120.0;attach=283144;image)
Now, lets have a look now after 4 years of using grams of gear.
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But I would be if I had upped the dosage, it would have been that simple wouldn't it?
Why havent you carried on improving in the last five years with all these grams of gear?
Heres your legs in October 2008
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=238120.0;attach=283144;image)
Now, lets have a look now after 4 years of using grams of gear.
You are taking the whole "the more you use, the bigger you are" thing too literally. I mean eventually there is limit. Will 5000mg of test be more effective than 3000mg? Maybe not. But 1g is better than 500mg, and 2g is better than 1g. Eventually when someone becomes huge, they can't grow no matter how much they use at that point.
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You are taking the whole "the more you use, the bigger you are" thing too literally
Im not, its someone else whos doing that.
PS hes probably checking out his legs in the mirror at the moment and deciding if its worth posting a pic. ;D
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You are taking the whole "the more you use, the bigger you are" thing too literally. I mean eventually there is limit. Will 5000mg of test be more effective than 3000mg? Maybe not. But 1g is better than 500mg, and 2g is better than 1g. Eventually when someone becomes huge, they can't grow no matter how much they use at that point.
This guy is a retard I am telling you he takes everything literal and you have to be politically correct around him. i said more will make you bigger but assuming every single person on getbig has the brains to know there is a cut off point where the limits are reached and at this level 20 grams per week will do nothing cause that is the limits. You know how to read uk mr. I like to argue jeff, Limits, woooooooooooooooosh
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This guy is a retard I am telling you he takes everything literal and you have to be politically correct around him.
You just have to be "correct", "political" doesn't come into it.
You know how to read uk mr. I like to argue jeff, Limits, woooooooooooooooosh
"Woooooooooooosh", is that you leaving the thread because your own body proves you wrong?
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I feel the same way. What REALLY kills me is when I binge eat for multiple days in a row. That's shameful, makes you feel like shit, and it's 100% deserved too. I hate that feeling so much...
i used to do this all the time around the time i smoked weed eventually lead to where im at now
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hm i find that one big cheat meal even if its 10-15k calories, on a depleted state wont make you (too) fat as long theres a fasting day after that.
but eating 2 or days in a row like that will visible ruin a physiques look.im talking about some solid 4lbs gain of pure fat being possible ;D
i agree with all of this, 2 days in a row fucks you but binging once every three days of dieting in between you can maintain on that
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But I would be if I had upped the dosage, it would have been that simple wouldn't it?
Why havent you carried on improving in the last five years with all these grams of gear?
Heres your legs in October 2008
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=238120.0;attach=283144;image)
Now, lets have a look now after 4 years of using grams of gear.
Are you stupid, I just told you I took 2 years off, actually I took 6 months off in 09 as well for my marathon. Sorry but I am not a full time bodybuilder, just a part time one, I have a family to feed and a business to run so bodybuilding has taken a 5 year lay-off, The biggest dose I have ever taken was when I took that leg shot and that was 3 grams per week combined (I was 26 years old), in fact I have not taken anything over 2 grams per week since.
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Are you stupid, I just told you I took 2 years off, actually I took 6 months off in 09 as well for my marathon. Sorry but I am not a full time bodybuilder, just a part time one, I have a family to feed and a business to run so bodybuilding has taken a 5 year lay-off, The biggest dose I have ever taken was when I took that leg shot and that was 3 grams per week combined (I was 26 years old), in fact I have not taken anything over 2 grams per week since.
So all these photos you keep posting of yourself are really 4 years old?
Yet after a 5 year layoff you are going to jump back in at a gram a week?????
You need that amount to get results, talk about shit genetics.
when was this one taken and what were you taking?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=447474.0;attach=491803;image)
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This pic was taken last fall on less gear and only juicing for a few months, so talk about shit genetics eh;...
oh right, so you were on less gear and still looked as good as you did on 3 grams???
I thought more was better?
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oh right, so you were on less gear and still looked as good as you did on 3 grams???
I thought more was better?
I don't look as good bro, my arms are 19 there and legs 28.5 and my bench was under 450 versus 08 with 20 inch arms, 30 inch thighs and 515lb bench
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I don't look as good bro, my arms are 19 there and legs 28.5 and my bench was under 450 versus 08 with 20 inch arms, 30 inch thighs and 515lb bench
I thought you said you had a 20 inch arm now?
Were you really just throwing in all your old best lifts and measurements? ;D
What do you look like now, really, come on lets see a photo.
Stand by for illusions to be shattered guys.
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I thought you said you had a 20 inch arm now?
Were you really just throwing in all your old best lifts and measurements? ;D
What do you look like now, really, come on lets see a photo.
Stand by for illusions to be shattered guys.
I do not look good at the moment as I am 240 and out of shape
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To OP, i have put on similar amounts eating a lot of junk in a day with KFC. KFC has so much sodium it's the worst you hold so much water. 48 hours later i piss it all out. Just eat clean and sensible amounts and it drops fast it's just fluid (yeh i know you know that just reassurance :)
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Are you stupid, I just told you I took 2 years off, actually I took 6 months off in 09 as well for my marathon. Sorry but I am not a full time bodybuilder, just a part time one, I have a family to feed and a business to run so bodybuilding has taken a 5 year lay-off, The biggest dose I have ever taken was when I took that leg shot and that was 3 grams per week combined (I was 26 years old), in fact I have not taken anything over 2 grams per week since.
mmmmm... hardly a layoff
Just to clarify my name is referring to going all out when you have to do something (extreme), such as a workout or something, has nothing to do with a woody thank you very much 8)
As my cycle, the usual suspects, test, eq, tren, anadrol, etc, always switcing up, 2000 mg combined usually
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=424190.0
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mmmmm... hardly a layoffhttp://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=424190.0
It is a 5 year layoff from bodybuilding
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I do not look good at the moment as I am 240 and out of shape
So all those grams of gear over the last five years and for what?
240 and out of shape.
Genetics is a bitch.
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It is a 5 year layoff from bodybuilding
so why all the gear if you are not bodybuilding?
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So all those grams of gear over the last five years and for what?
240 and out of shape.
Genetics is a bitch.
so why all the gear if you are not bodybuilding?
It is simple, every time I start to lift and juice, a few months in something comes up and back to my priorities and bodybuilding gets the shaft, but at the time I am thinking I will be on stage within the year but it doesn't happen.
I was ready to do regionals, provincials and nationals this year but ripped my ham on a steep roof carrying a bundle a few months ago so I am out once again. Are you done interrogating me yet, can I go now?
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Are you done interrogating me yet, can I go now?
We are done, you can go..............for now. ;D
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interesting post ^
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yeah something like this,i do too.
no point in beeing a total asocial esp when going out.
theres quite huge guys out there clubbing, standing there like pillars everything and their finger flexed at all times, holding that mineral water,and then theres slightly smaller guys who enjoy their lifes.
yea, never understood this.
Do those guys expect girls to come to them ?
You gotta loosen and up show off the moves to show the girls you're fun, not just a meathead.
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yea, never understood this.
Do those guys expect girls to come to them ?
You gotta loosen and up show off the moves to show the girls you're fun, not just a meathead.
I'll tell you what girls like.
They like a big jacked dude who looks like a meathead, but doesn't act like one. The key is to NEVER bring up the subject of working out or fitness of any sort. Only talk about it if they bring it up, but always downplay it. Make them think there is more to you than just that. Talk about other things. Then you are a total catch to a chick.
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I'll tell you what girls like.
They like a big jacked dude who looks like a meathead, but doesn't act like one. The key is to NEVER bring up the subject of working out or fitness of any sort. Only talk about it if they bring it up, but always downplay it. Make them think there is more to you than just that. Talk about other things. Then you are a total catch to a chick.
I totally agree with your whole post, but thats why im saying its stupid to stand around in a club looking all big, like any one gives a shit.
Get one the dance floor and boogie abit.
Here in Australia, where im from, clubs are very noisy, you cannot talk to any one there pretty much. So if you are not talking, and you are not dancing, why even go , LOL ?
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I totally agree with your whole post, but thats why im saying its stupid to stand around in a club looking all big, like any one gives a shit.
Get one the dance floor and boogie abit.
Here in Australia, where im from, clubs are very noisy, you cannot talk to any one there pretty much. So if you are not talking, and you are not dancing, why even go , LOL ?
Absolutely. The guys looking like douchers just standing there in the club with their really tight shirts don't know what they are doing. The words that come out of your mouth are just as important as the way you look, if not more.
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Spent $18 worth of shit. 6 tenders, large popcorn chicken, small mac n cheese, and small potato wedges (fries). Fucking woke up 8lbs heavier than yesterday. Fuck bad decisions
Off to the gym for a self destructive workout
Hahaha, try 10 pieces of chicken, 2 x large chips, 3 buns, 2 x burgers, 1 x large coleslaw, 1 x large potatoe gravy, 2 x sprites, 6 x chicken nuggets
Lee Priest approved.
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Problem is I often go out to dinner 5 days a week with various people, and I like to order whatever is on the menu. If I dropped the tren, I lose the leverage of staying lean with cheat meals.
An intermittent fast type diet would work well in your case.
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it took me very long to get it, but yeah, for non competitors its best stick to nothing but test and that at low doses and thats that.
theres really not even a need to add second compound imo.e or cyp for the most time and when they feel like going extra lean then switch to propand thats that.
many ppl overestimate how much gear they "need".
i can tell i get pretty much same results on hrt as compared to a gramm weekly, ok maybe 10% less impressive, but fuck that,im not competing.
the problem when you climb to high doses,there will be a psychological barrier and you think if you go low again youll shrink etc.
the problem is this cant go on forever you cannot forever add compounds and up the dose,t wont end well, the extra gains will be nothing or all in the gut from some point.
at that level, esp for gym rats, theres only one sensible thing to do.come off entirely,let it all crash.relax.
go on hrt and will see the results will be similar with less effort and sides.
gymrats with no ambition to compete on 100mg tren daily, this is ridiculous.
doing 350mg test prop instead would lead to the same thing pretty much,as far looks are concerned.
By the sounds of it Amd has placed more importance on gear rather than his diet so using just test would take some adjustments. Test is less forgiving but it will make him think twice before he eats junk loaded in calories/sodium that are not beneficial to his current goals. But in the end it will be much better for his look and his health....doesn't need much of it to maintain either.
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhd3bseVi81qflpc1o1_500.jpg)
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhd3bseVi81qflpc1o1_500.jpg)
hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
you can still eat all that and still be ripped to fuck :D :D :D
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Looks delicious
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Looks delicious
I'm on 100g of carbs a day.
I would take those buns (no homo) fill them with mashed potato, and all the mac & cheese and make it dissapear quicker than a dildo at tbombz first ann summers party
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I'm on 100g of carbs a day.
I would take those buns (no homo) fill them with mashed potato, and all the mac & cheese and make it dissapear quicker than a dildo at tbombz first ann summers party
comedy gold right there
how's your romantic writing verses stud?
i usually just quote lyrics from certain songs and tell the female that they are my own ;D ;D ;D
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This thread of full of some of the mightiest and studliest getbiggers.
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comedy gold right there
how's your romantic writing verses stud?
i usually just quote lyrics from certain songs and tell the female that they are my own ;D ;D ;D
Thanks bro, the poetry's going great!
I only had to whisper the title of my latest verse 'Ten Bucks' to your mom and she was on her knees within seconds :D
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Thanks bro, the poetry's going great!
I only had to whisper the title of my latest verse 'Ten Bucks' to your mom and she was on her knees within seconds :D
that's not bad man, but King Zane was able to get it for free :D
(http://anthonymychal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/frank-zane1.jpg)
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This thread of full of some of the mightiest and studliest getbiggers.
Thank you. 8)
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I'll tell you what girls like.
They like a big jacked dude who looks like a meathead, but doesn't act like one.
Do they fuck, they like a guy who's in shape and doesn't take himself too seriously and makes them laugh.
Granted you get the occasional girl who likes huge muscles but they tend to look like this
(http://theasiancasanova.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Bimbo_Before_a_few_300.jpg)
:-X :-X
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By the sounds of it Amd has placed more importance on gear rather than his diet so using just test would take some adjustments. Test is less forgiving but it will make him think twice before he eats junk loaded in calories/sodium that are not beneficial to his current goals. But in the end it will be much better for his look and his health....doesn't need much of it to maintain either.
This isn't necessarily true. I have a diet typed up and written out (can post it if anyone wants). The only thing is I only stick to it half the week and have one big cheat meal on other days. I've lessened my gear use big time very recently...In the past, I figured "well I'm on this, and I'm on that, so I guess I can have a few triple cheeseburgers at mcdonalds for lunch and be ok."
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Do they fuck, they like a guy who's in shape and doesn't take himself too seriously and makes them laugh.
Granted you get the occasional girl who likes huge muscles but they tend to look like this
(http://theasiancasanova.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Bimbo_Before_a_few_300.jpg)
:-X :-X
If she cut back on the face paint, she'd be ok.
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This isn't necessarily true. I have a diet typed up and written out (can post it if anyone wants). The only thing is I only stick to it half the week and have one big cheat meal on other days. I've lessened my gear use big time very recently...In the past, I figured "well I'm on this, and I'm on that, so I guess I can have a few triple cheeseburgers at mcdonalds for lunch and be ok."
Yeah this is what I meant....if you didn't have your diet under control now this thread would not exist lol.
I'd be interested in seeing your diet. How is the downsizing going btw?
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Do they fuck, they like a guy who's in shape and doesn't take himself too seriously and makes them laugh.
Granted you get the occasional girl who likes huge muscles but they tend to look like this
(http://theasiancasanova.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Bimbo_Before_a_few_300.jpg)
:-X :-X
What's wrong with her? I'd fuck her.
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Yeah this is what I meant....if you didn't have your diet under control now this thread would not exist lol.
I'd be interested in seeing your diet. How is the downsizing going btw?
Actually I lost 15lbs of water weight in like 10 days since I started cruising and decided I loved the way I look, so I am just going to try to maintain this look while losing the tiny bit of fat I have left and drying out more. I am just under 225lbs now (5'10). I feel good at this weight, been doing a ton of cardio, and overall I feel great again. I didn't expect it to happen so fast.
Current diet (that I TRY to stick to. A lot of the days the calories are a little higher)
Meal 1 (pre workout)
2 tbsp whey from synthetek (30/0/0, 125), 1 ½ cup oats (15/81/9, 450), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
45/81/12, 605
Meal 2 (post workout)
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 ½ cup oats (15/81/9, 450)
62/81/10, 690
Meal 3
2 scoops Elite XT (42/12/4, 260), 2 tbsp natural peanut butter (7/6/16, 190) (or 3 eggs or 20 almonds), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
59/72/29, 780
Meal 4
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300) (or corn flakes or cherios)
62/54/7, 540
Meal 5
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
62/54/10, 570
290/342/68, 3,185
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Actually I lost 15lbs of water weight in like 10 days since I started cruising and decided I loved the way I look, so I am just going to try to maintain this look while losing the tiny bit of fat I have left and drying out more. I am just under 225lbs now (5'10). I feel good at this weight, been doing a ton of cardio, and overall I feel great again. I didn't expect it to happen so fast.
Current diet (that I TRY to stick to. A lot of the days the calories are a little higher)
Meal 1 (pre workout)
2 tbsp whey from synthetek (30/0/0, 125), 1 ½ cup oats (15/81/9, 450), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
45/81/12, 605
Meal 2 (post workout)
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 ½ cup oats (15/81/9, 450)
62/81/10, 690
Meal 3
2 scoops Elite XT (42/12/4, 260), 2 tbsp natural peanut butter (7/6/16, 190) (or 3 eggs or 20 almonds), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
59/72/29, 780
Meal 4
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300) (or corn flakes or cherios)
62/54/7, 540
Meal 5
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
62/54/10, 570
290/342/68, 3,185
Too much info.... Outed. Save that for the nutrition board. Oh wait, nobody reads that ;D Sorry, carry on.
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What's wrong with her? I'd fuck her.
She has big head but X2. PTPS.
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20 almonds
Stop it with this shit...
Whats all the fucking rage with the almonds?
Does 20 almonds a day really make a difference?
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Stop it with this shit...
Whats all the fucking rage with the almonds?
Does 20 almonds a day really make a difference?
25 and you will completely spill over. Not advised to go over or under the 20 almond mark.
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25 and you will completely spill over. Not advised to go over or under the 20 almond mark.
Agreed, anymore than 25 in one sitting is plain nuts
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Its common knowledge that peanuts are not nuts, if thats the case why are all these people with nut allergies collapsing when they eat them?
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I recommend cutting the oats to 1 3/8 cups or you will sustain dire consequences.
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I remember going to a Robby Robinson seminar back in the early 90s and some gym owner asked him a long winded question about protein/carbs and the pitfalls of eating them together.
Robby shook his head and said "When I diet I use a small bowl and off season I use a big bowl"
I always laugh when I see guys weighing all this food out and using body fat callipers.
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I could gain weight on what you eat amd lol. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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What's wrong with her? I'd fuck her.
Pretty much everything from the neck up.
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Actually I lost 15lbs of water weight in like 10 days since I started cruising and decided I loved the way I look, so I am just going to try to maintain this look while losing the tiny bit of fat I have left and drying out more. I am just under 225lbs now (5'10). I feel good at this weight, been doing a ton of cardio, and overall I feel great again. I didn't expect it to happen so fast.
Current diet (that I TRY to stick to. A lot of the days the calories are a little higher)
Meal 1 (pre workout)
2 tbsp whey from synthetek (30/0/0, 125), 1 ½ cup oats (15/81/9, 450), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
45/81/12, 605
Meal 2 (post workout)
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 ½ cup oats (15/81/9, 450)
62/81/10, 690
Meal 3
2 scoops Elite XT (42/12/4, 260), 2 tbsp natural peanut butter (7/6/16, 190) (or 3 eggs or 20 almonds), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
59/72/29, 780
Meal 4
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300) (or corn flakes or cherios)
62/54/7, 540
Meal 5
Chicken breast (52/0/1, 240), 1 cup oats (10/54/6, 300), 3 fish oils (0/0/3, 30)
62/54/10, 570
290/342/68, 3,185
holy fuck, you people and your carbs. I swell up like an ethiopian child on just 1/2 a cup of oats for breakfast.. wish I could eat like that and not be 20% bf :(
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I remember going to a Robby Robinson seminar back in the early 90s and some gym owner asked him a long winded question about protein/carbs and the pitfalls of eating them together.
Robby shook his head and said "When I diet I use a small bowl and off season I use a big bowl"
I always laugh when I see guys weighing all this food out and using body fat callipers.
Exactly the mirror is all you need. All this fat callipers and measuring dont mean a dam thing on stage if you look like shit.
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Exactly the mirror is all you need. All this fat callipers and measuring dont mean a dam thing on stage if you look like shit.
fuck you man >:( >:( >:(
my tape measure is my sword and my calipers are my armor ;D ;D ;D
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fuck you man >:( >:( >:(
my tape measure is my sword and my calipers are my armor ;D ;D ;D
Take them on stage with you then see what happens, if you don't look worth a shit in the mirror whats the point?
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Take them on stage with you then see what happens, if you don't look worth a shit in the mirror whats the point?
lol
true, but both can be effective tools for proper assessment of progress don't ya think?
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Stop it with this shit...
Whats all the fucking rage with the almonds?
Does 20 almonds a day really make a difference?
Almonds are one of the healthiest foods on this planet
I could gain weight on what you eat amd lol. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
I used to cut weight naturally on 3,000 calories a day when I had much less muscle. The thing is I am starving if I eat any less than 4,000 calories a day so I basically have to starve all day
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lol
true, but both can be effective tools for proper assessment of progress don't ya think?
They are ok I guess, but being a numbers guy that you are continue on. I just never got into that stuff just counted calories and used the mirror. Multiply your weight in lbs by 15 that a general rule for maintenance then drop as needed.
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They are ok I guess, but being a numbers guy that you are continue on. I just never got into that stuff just counted calories and used the mirror. Multiply your weight in lbs by 15 that a general rule for maintenance then drop as needed.
yeah, it's just that your mind can sometimes play tricks on ya when you go low cals for more that a few weeks, so the skinfolds keep it more "objective" so to speak
how low would you go cal wise? right now i'm @ BWx9
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yeah, it's just that your mind can sometimes play tricks on ya when you go low cals for more that a few weeks, so the skinfolds keep it more "objective" so to speak
how low would you go cal wise? right now i'm @ BWx9
Well look in the mirror if not where you need to be, then drop 200 cals the body as in a lean state goes into a fasting mode for survival so dont drop too much it holds on to fat if dropping too much for survival so dont drop too much...
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Well look in the mirror if not where you need to be, then drop 200 cals the body as in a lean state goes into a fasting mode for survival so dont drop too much it holds on to fat if dropping too much for survival so dont drop too much...
what about "cheat days"?
how often would can you do them and how far can you go over your daily cal allotment when doing so?
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what about "cheat days"?
how often would can you do them and how far can you go over your daily cal allotment when doing so?
Once a week, just eat what you want. Dont worry about it then next day back to the grind.
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lol
true, but both can be effective tools for proper assessment of progress don't ya think?
No they can give you a false sense of achievement or destroy your confidence.
"Im looking great"
"yep you are, never seen you this ripped, whats your bodyfat %
"I dont know, get the callipers"
8%!!!!!!!!!, fuck man you need to get your act together"
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Like Galeniko said I NEVER EVER saw a fat person in any concentration camp
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Yep, no big waddling inmates saying , "I have a glandular problem" ;D
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No they can give you a false sense of achievement or destroy your confidence.
"Im looking great"
"yep you are, never seen you this ripped, whats your bodyfat %
"I dont know, get the callipers"
8%!!!!!!!!!, fuck man you need to get your act together"
::)
good point
and in fact i'd say that pics are even better than the mirror coz then you can properly see if you've made actual progress or not
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good point
and in fact i'd say that pics are even better than the mirror coz then you can properly see if you've made actual progress or not
Alternatively people use the callipers and because it says 4% think they must look good and then ignore the mirror.
"Ah, it must be the fluorescent tubes in here making me look this bad" ;)
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Alternatively people use the callipers and because it says 4% think they must look good and then ignore the mirror.
"Ah, it must be the fluorescent tubes in here making me look this bad" ;)
"it must be the fluoresent tubes" :D, exactly measure all you want if you don't look worth a shit what does it matter.
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It took me years to realise that rice is not what I like to eat and I do not really feel great after it.
I currently eat 1kg of chicken (fried on olive oil), 250g of cottage cheese, 750g of veggies and fruits. I was never bigger, stronger and as lean as I am right now.
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Some people dont know what hungry is.
They eat every three hours, daft twats, wait until you are hungry then give it another hour.
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Agreed, anymore than 25 in one sitting is plain nuts
The genius is missed by most. 8)
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Some people dont know what hungry is.
They eat every three hours, daft twats, wait until you are hungry then give it another hour.
When is the last time yousaw a dentist?
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Some people dont know what hungry is.
They eat every three hours, daft twats, wait until you are hungry then give it another hour.
If I ate when hungry, I would eat every hour and a half. That would turn me into Yokozuna
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If I ate when hungry, I would eat every hour and a half. That would turn me into Yokozuna
x2 8) wait a minute, I do ;D,..... although not yokazuna, probably around 12%-13% right now
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yes, hungry is not when one feels like eating again, or when something might fill again in the stomach.
those are called apetite.
hungry is when you shit everything out of the stomach, and its almost painfully cramping, very different feeling to this.
then wait 30-60minutes, its not gonna kill anyone-and then have next meal.
if i would eat whenever i feel like, or whenever if feel theres room for a bit food, thatd be 10k calories each and every day.
BINGO
Excellent point, hungry is not appetite, hungry is when hunger pains begin and this is when the fat comes off like crazy.
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I used to cut weight naturally on 3,000 calories a day when I had much less muscle. The thing is I am starving if I eat any less than 4,000 calories a day so I basically have to starve all day
I noticed some gear increases my appetite more than others. Nandrolone makes me hungrier than a bitch on her third trimester.
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yeah friend of me was similar to that, he got away with quite shit diet.no, very shit diet,infact, but he couldnt manage to go on semi decent diet and instead stopped altogether,inculding training.lol at how he looks these days.
he used to be way bigger than me, and only slightly fatter, say 2-3%, but that still made him a bloatso overall.
one interesting thing, pros offseason are lean, but very bloated, in order to get lean and cut, even they have to clean up the diet.
this should tell everyone everything they need to know, theres no need to think too much about this, a shit diet will make one look like shit, including the pros who are on every drug imagineable
A shitty diet has to have more negative effects on health while being juiced no?
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A shitty diet has to have more negative effects on health while being juiced no?
100% yes. If you are natural, eating clean doesn't matter as much until you are older. When juiced up, bad food affects your health a lot more
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well, according to bloodwork tests,lol, yes, can be answered with yes.
;D
doesnt anyone on gear get spots after cheats meals?or fatty skin?or when squeezing the skin, some spot tissue(fat comes out)?
now if you think about this, best dont think about how its gonna look inside the veins and arteries and the hearth :-X
Nothing like that but come to think of it I've had my blood pressure sky rocket and have been out of breath like a morbidly obese person after epic cheats. All this while being under 10% bf...yeah can't be good. lol.
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The genius is missed by most. 8)
Great minds Shizzo
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Great minds Shizzo
are you saying that shizzo has a slightly over exagerated opinion of his get big status cyp?
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are you saying that shizzo has a slightly over exagerated opinion of his get big status cyp?
What i'm saying bigmc, is that this is my 5000th post 8)
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Changed my mind about running masteron. Don't feel like dropping close to $300 on that shit.
just gonna do
210 prop
490 tren a
3.33iu gh
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haha, i hear ya bro. even on a scheduled cheat meal i cant help but feel like absolute shit about 20 minutes after i eat it.
Sissy
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I find that Chipotle is great alternative to all fast foods...and WaWa subs, which you can get at any hour...some Jack Daniels and a WaWa sub at 2am...
Wawa is pretty good. I just wish they did breakfast all day.