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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
Are we brainwashed by the system from early age. Having to spend most of the day in school and then do homework. Like that we should not develop time comsuming interests that could conflict future working "career".
The media and commercials brainwash us into this comsumer spending trap. But I am starting to wonder if it really makes us happy.
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People put their life on hold for many years to get that pile. When its time to "live" and spend they dont know any other way than car and house. Because they have worked all their life and have never developed any interests. Then they say things like: "I love my job so much it doesnt feel like work to me" Trying to justify a wasted life.
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People put their life on hold for many years to get that pile. When its time to "live" and spend they dont know any other way than car and house. Because they have worked all their life and have never developed any interests. Then they say things like: "I love my job so much it doesnt feel like work to me" Trying to justify a wasted life.
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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
I clock 60 hours a week on average, but I like my work, its in a field I have a personal interest in and its in a field which allows me to earn more than my peers workign just as hard in other industries bar the successful business owners. Money doesn't make me happy but gives me peace of mind, I don't worry about mortgage payments and taxes and bills...etc.
I don't want to stay at home and go trekking...etc, well I do. But I also want to travel across the planet once a year, something I have been able to do for a good number of years lately and exprience other parts of the world and see it with my own eyes. I was taught you don't get something for nothing and hard work is somethign to be proud off, so when I am driving my Merc on the weekend, or sitting in a top notch restaurant with a smoking hot chick on the weekend or flying to another exotic continent for two weeks exploring, it feels well deserved and earned.
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I clock 60 hours a week on average,
flying to another exotic continent for two weeks exploring, it feels well deserved and earned.
Sounds very boring compared to 6 months of backpacking around the world.
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People put their life on hold for many years to get that pile. When its time to "live" and spend they dont know any other way than car and house. Because they have worked all their life and have never developed any interests. Then they say things like: "I love my job so much it doesnt feel like work to me" Trying to justify a wasted life.
It's a means to and end. If there was a better way to spend less time in the office, but have the means to do what you want, I'm sure most would.
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ideally you get a very high salary but live like you have a very low one
so you have a ton of savings and can retire ???
Or just live low and work less, with less savings of course. But with a well lived life ?
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
Are we brainwashed by the system from early age. Having to spend most of the day in school and then do homework. Like that we should not develop time comsuming interests that could conflict future working "career".
The media and commercials brainwash us into this comsumer spending trap. But I am starting to wonder if it really makes us happy.
They don't do it because they want to, due to the inequality deliberately built into the system, the majority have no choice but to rent their labour to the privileged classes for their whole lives just to survive. The privileged classes tell them what to think and feel from the moment they are born, and due to this the average punter believes this is just the way the world works and feels grateful for it. Essentially, they adopt the mindset of the ruling class, hence the reason they never rebel against such oppression, as they don't even know they are enslaved (because that's what the ruling classes have made them believe). The ruling classes promote downward envy and keep the underclasses divided and blaming one another for their circumstances to distract them from the real culprits behind their lack of opportunity and privilege, the ruling class. Hope this helps.
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
Love that story.
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They don't do it because they want to, due to the inbuilt inequality built into the system, the majority have no choice but to rent their labour to the privileged classes for their whole lives just to survive. The privileged classes tell them what to think and feel from the moment they are born, and due to this the average punter believes this is just the way the world works and feels grateful for it. Essentially, they adopt the mindset of the ruling class, hence the reason they never rebel against such oppression, as they don't even know they are enslaved. The ruling classes promote downward envy and keep the underclasses divided and blaming one another for their circumstances to distract them from the real culprits of their lack of opportunity and privilege, the ruling class. Hope this helps.
Agreed, most of us could downsize our posessions and work less. But it would mean the end of the Western world.
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it depends what you wants...
some ppl enjoy working and being able to boast and moan about how much they work
We are brainwashed into working hard. It starts when you are a kid in school "do your homework..."
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haha yes it's funny
reality is probably different
It isnt funny at all.
I went to the caribbean on holiday a few years ago and the hotel we stayed in was just down the beach from a small fishing village, the people there lived and did exactly what we were doing every day for free yet we had paid £3000 for the privledge.
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If you want to live the good life stay single, don't have any kids and save your money
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If you want to live the good life stay single, don't have any kids and save your money
I dont know, I say that having a family is the best excuse to work full time.
If you are a single person that dont want kids and family, working full time is just a waste of your life.
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Or just live low and work less, with less savings of course. But with a well lived life ?
Why would I hire or contract you at all? Wanting to work less hours means you'll want to charge more per hour, and wanting to do anything but work means you'll be less informed, skilled, and experienced than someone with an interest in his field who practices his art daily.
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i fucked up
i'm single
but i have a kid :(
Sucks you feel that way about your child. You should be experiencing the joys of parenthood.
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Why would I hire or contract you at all? Wanting to work less hours means you'll want to charge more per hour, and wanting to do anything but work means you'll be less informed, skilled, and experienced than someone with an interest in his field who practices his art daily.
Of course not. No one would expect to get a higher wage per hour. The whole point is to downsize, spend less money, to work less.
Your worries about beeing less informed etc is a typical anxiety reaction to the unknown. In most prefessions this would not be an issue other than in theory.
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Are you that grasshopper that keeps asking the ant for shelter when it rains and food when you are starving?
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
Very very good. ;)
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Of course not. No one would expect to get a higher wage per hour. The whole point is to downsize, spend less money, to work less.
Your worries about beeing less informed etc is a typical anxiety reaction to the unknown. In most prefessions this would not be an issue other than in theory.
Nope. From brain surgery to ditch digging, the more time you log the better you get. Interestingly, this also means you can charge more since you're more productive and produce a better quality result.
I'm with you on not spending money frivolously. "Don't waste money" isn't amazingly insightful financial advice tho.
It just sounds like you hate what you do, fella. Contemplate this.
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
Reminds me of stories I hear about lotto winners when asked what are they going to do and they say move to a small island and relax and I think, why can't you do that now? Why wait to win the lotto?
Just as sad as those people that pinch pennies and live their lives like poor people to save away money so they don't ever become poor. The irony is lost on them.
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I clock 60 hours a week on average, but I like my work, its in a field I have a personal interest in and its in a field which allows me to earn more than my peers workign just as hard in other industries bar the successful business owners. Money doesn't make me happy but gives me peace of mind, I don't worry about mortgage payments and taxes and bills...etc.
I don't want to stay at home and go trekking...etc, well I do. But I also want to travel across the planet once a year, something I have been able to do for a good number of years lately and exprience other parts of the world and see it with my own eyes. I was taught you don't get something for nothing and hard work is somethign to be proud off, so when I am driving my Merc on the weekend, or sitting in a top notch restaurant with a smoking hot chick on the weekend or flying to another exotic continent for two weeks exploring, it feels well deserved and earned.
what field are you in
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If you want to live the good life stay single, don't have any kids and save your money
No, not the case at all. Get a wife who is similarly driven, and make money. Then, invest this money, and make more money. I could not have what I have without me and my wife as a team. I know it sounds gay, but it really works for us. We do what we want in our spare time, and don't really have to think about anything before we buy it. We pretty much do hat we want. Before, when I was single, I didn't really have the same goals. It was going out, drinking, chasing pussy, and doing the occasional cocaine, lol. I know that might sound like fun, but I can honestly tell you, that having an end goal, with a partner, is something that is really cool. You just have to find that person who compliments you and drives you to be better.
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Become self employed if possible. "Work" should be a passion.
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Nope. From brain surgery to ditch digging, the more time you log the better you get. Interestingly, this also means you can charge more since you're more productive and produce a better quality result.
I'm with you on not spending money frivolously. "Don't waste money" isn't amazingly insightful financial advice tho.
It just sounds like you hate what you do, fella. Contemplate this.
Sounds dated and John Wayneesque.
Would you go to work if you got the same pay as if you didnt go ?
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That story is awesome
It is not reality but it's healthy food for thought
I think many would be happier not to plan to be happy 15-20 years in to the future
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Sounds dated and John Wayneesque.
That's me. Pilgrim.
Would you go to work if you got the same pay as if you didnt go ?
I don't understand the question. Any job would pay more than dole/welfare, doesn't it? If not then you're free from judging the work on the basis of its earnings and can make decisions based strictly on whether or not you're interested in the field.
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
Haha, I've heard this same story, except it began, "There was a fisherman tying up his little boat in a small Greek village..."
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That's me. Pilgrim.
I don't understand the question.
Hypothetically, if your company made it optional to show up or not ?
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Sounds like a bunch of underachieving lazy bums trying to justify their life style while making fun of those with a work ethic. Keep voting Democrat and maybe they will take more taxes out of the producers to help you out. Remember those nice vacations and car you wouldn't be able to afford if you weren't living free in your Mom's house. Houses cost money. Food, house taxes, cars, electricity, heat, furniture, water, vacations, taking care of children, and the list goes on cost money. Have you figured what it cost to feed a family of just 4 for a month?
I worked hard working all kinds of crazy shifts sometimes driving over 100 miles to work. What did I get for this? A 3000 sq ft house that excludes the other 1500sq ft that I have for a gym with an in ground pool. Two new cars and I retired at 52.
No one is going to give you anything. Work is called work. I know some of you won't work because you think your college degree entitles you to an office with a secretary. No it entitles you to an entry level job that you can work up from. A college degree today is the high school diploma of my youth.
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Hypothetically, if your company made it optional to show up or not ?
This is a very silly conversation now and you know it.
If you like art, study art and work in an art oriented joint. If you like machines, work with machines. Just decide how you want to spend your time and make some money dude. It ain't that bad. It doesn't sound you're stuck out on the Serengeti somewhere with actual problems. Cowboy up.
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Sounds like a bunch of underachieving lazy bums trying to justify their life style while making fun of those with a work ethic. Keep voting Democrat and maybe they will take more taxes out of the producers to help you out. Remember those nice vacations and car you wouldn't be able to afford if you weren't living free in your Mom's house. Houses cost money. Food, house taxes, cars, electricity, heat, furniture, water, vacations, taking care of children, and the list goes on cost money. Have you figured what it cost to feed a family of just 4 for a month?
I worked hard working all kinds of crazy shifts sometimes driving over 100 miles to work. What did I get for this? A 3000 sq ft house that excludes the other 1500sq ft that I have for a gym with an in ground pool. Two new cars and I retired at 52.
No one is going to give you anything. Work is called work. I know some of you won't work because you think your college degree entitles you to an office with a secretary. No it entitles you to an entry level job that you can work up from. A college degree today is the high school diploma of my youth.
I think they're talking about work being inherently valued vs. Work as a means to an end.
Didn't really get the vibe that people were lazy, just unhappy.
And I can't wait to be wealthy, do I get to vote republican then? I heard dat dere democrats are lazy pieces of shit
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Sounds very boring compared to 6 months of backpacking around the world.
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I think they're talking about work being inherently valued vs. Work as a means to an end.
Didn't really get the vibe that people were lazy, just unhappy.
And I can't wait to be wealthy, do I get to vote republican then? I heard dat dere democrats are lazy pieces of shit
Consider this. When they looked at personal wealth, the Democrats in congress had more when compared to the Republicans. Also the Democrats had way more donations from big business that includes Wall Street traded companies then we have to consider which side is the party of the rich.
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Earth is a slave realm. If everyone did what you say and worked much less, the Hierarchy in charge would simply make the necessary adjustments to the basics in life and make it next to impossible to achieve...In America people already need a fishing license or a hunting license to do so...They would just raise the price to get a license through the roof if everyone was doing it. $50,000 for a fishing license. $100,000 for a hunting license etc...Life in prison for anyone who tries to go around that system. The amount of things they can do to keep the masses from living an easy life are endless.
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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
Are we brainwashed by the system from early age. Having to spend most of the day in school and then do homework. Like that we should not develop time comsuming interests that could conflict future working "career".
The media and commercials brainwash us into this comsumer spending trap. But I am starting to wonder if it really makes us happy.
Exactly...this makes sense. However most people are so hopelessy indoctrinated they have zero ability to actually think for themselves.
Whenever i try to point these things out to someone, the reaction is always a brief silence coupled with a confused stare...followed by them falling back to the old standby of 'thats weird...no..thats just crazy..no.uh..uh...just no'
Most people are sheep and need to be told what to do and what to think.
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Balance is key, as in all aspects of life. Some truly enjoy the successes of their labors. Being very good at what you do is enjoyable for most people.
But time is really the only TRUE luxury, simply because you can't buy more of it. Sacrificing time with your family for work is a shame for all involved.
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You should worry less about what makes "us" happy and what makes yourself happy.
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i could understand someone would work his ass off all of his life only if he had more than just one life.
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I think that working full time is something from the past when it was necessary for most just to survive.
Today food and stuff made in China are cheaper than ever.
People will realize that they can afford a good life today on less money.
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I work hard as fuck but don't plug in much more than 40 hours a week at work. Then I work outside of my main job tutoring the homestay students we have. Wife is in school full time and sometimes she works too. People wonder why we plug away so hard, but when they come over to see that we have a new home that's beautifully furnished, half paid off with two cars and other assets they quickly realize why.
People always freak out and say "ohhh, you're wasting your best years" but everyone else our age just drinks half the nights of the week and spends their days hung over. Maybe they might vacation once or twice per year... yeah.... that's really living it up. Then you hear them complain that their water heater's broken and their landlord isn't fixing it quickly enough. I don't have those problems because I am the lord of the land.
I ain't smart, I know people WAY more successful than myself and a lot younger. But once I started to catch onto adult living and got a firm hold on my finances, it really changed my outlook. My wife will have a great career soon and we'll be making fuckloads more money. I'm only just starting to invest and diversify my portfolio, starting with the basics like retirement funds and doing things like putting money into tax free savings accounts. People just have a chequing account and never budget, never saving any money and just living paycheque to paycheque even though they make the same amount as someone else who's got way more assets. A little knowledge and discipline is all it takes to really get your money working for you. Make sure you value ever dollar and don't squander it. If I can put it somewhere and let it grow compound interest, that's what I'm gonna do with it. A lot of people have shitty lives because they're simply ignorant. I'm only just catching onto this shit and feeling good about working hard. As I get older and I lose that desire, I'll be able to afford working less. As long as the momentum holds up, I'm going to keep working my nuggets off and stop once I get fed up. I just wish I knew a lot of this shit way earlier and I would have worked harder and smarter from a younger age!
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
awww that's a great story about how Jose is smarter and living the life while Bill Gringo is a fool working himself towards an early death.
Just a couple of questions though.
1. What does Jose do when he doesn't catch all the fish he needs to feed his family for the day?
Answer - He goes to the supermarket and buys fish. Those fish were supplied by Bill Gringo who risked personal capital
(i.e. his family's fish) to setup a fishing industry and bring in excess fish to local supermarkets.
2. What does Jose do when there's a change in the fish migration patterns and he can't go out anymore and catch enough to feed his family?
Answer - He takes his fishing skills to the local fishing company and gets hired. This company, of course, was setup by Bill Gringo as part of his expansion in Mexico plan. It provides Jose and hundreds of other smart/happy/living life well folks a job.
3. Uh oh! Jose's wife Maria is sick from the mercury poisoning of eating fish every day. What does Jose do?!
Answer - He takes her down to the local hospital's new women's health wing (financed in part by donations from Bill Gringo's company) and gets her treatment. Her treatment is affordable because Bill Gringo provides generous Healthcare benefits for his employees.
4. Uh Oh again! Jose is out fishing for himself one day and gets his arm bitten off by a shark. What does he do now that he can't fish and feed his family?
Answer - He applies at the local unemployment office for benefits! Those benefits are available because Bill Gringo's company matches all employee tax liabilities. His company also increases the local tax bases in Jose's area so there's a safety net for the unemployed.
5. Jose gotten too old to fish anymore and of course he doesn't have any savings. His sons are forced to fish extra to support him and Maria. They don't get to enjoy life like their papa did with sleeping late, siestas, playing with their kids because of the extra work they do now for Jose.
But Jose can look back at his life and laugh at Bill Gringo. All Bill Gringo can do in retirement is see that he created jobs and wealth for hundreds of people. Those people spent their wealth buying goods that created more jobs. He created a business that provided tax monies to governments that used the money to build schools for Jose's kids, hospitals, parks, roads etc.
His public offering attracted lots of investments from middle class families. Because of the business acumen he got from Harvard he was able to provide a return on those investments for decades. Those returns allowed lots of people to live better than they were before and to accumulate savings so their kids didn't have to fish extra for them. Some of them even took vacations to a small little village in Mexico where they got to hear charming stories from a wise local fisherman about how they've wasted their lives....
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I work hard as fuck but don't plug in much more than 40 hours a week at work. Then I work outside of my main job tutoring the homestay students we have. Wife is in school full time and sometimes she works too. People wonder why we plug away so hard, but when they come over to see that we have a new home that's beautifully furnished, half paid off with two cars and other assets they quickly realize why.
People always freak out and say "ohhh, you're wasting your best years" but everyone else our age just drinks half the nights of the week and spends their days hung over. Maybe they might vacation once or twice per year... yeah.... that's really living it up. Then you hear them complain that their water heater's broken and their landlord isn't fixing it quickly enough. I don't have those problems because I am the lord of the land.
I ain't smart, I know people WAY more successful than myself and a lot younger. But once I started to catch onto adult living and got a firm hold on my finances, it really changed my outlook. My wife will have a great career soon and we'll be making fuckloads more money. I'm only just starting to invest and diversify my portfolio, starting with the basics like retirement funds and doing things like putting money into tax free savings accounts. People just have a chequing account and never budget, never saving any money and just living paycheque to paycheque even though they make the same amount as someone else who's got way more assets. A little knowledge and discipline is all it takes to really get your money working for you. Make sure you value ever dollar and don't squander it. If I can put it somewhere and let it grow compound interest, that's what I'm gonna do with it. A lot of people have shitty lives because they're simply ignorant. I'm only just catching onto this shit and feeling good about working hard. As I get older and I lose that desire, I'll be able to afford working less. As long as the momentum holds up, I'm going to keep working my nuggets off and stop once I get fed up. I just wish I knew a lot of this shit way earlier and I would have worked harder and smarter from a younger age!
The drive to have a big house seems to be a very strong genetic programing. If not, then why would so many make it their no1 priority in life.
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I'm feeling pity for you.
Your job clearly sucks. That's not how it should have gone down, had you been smarter.
and lol @ exercising ahahahah
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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
Are we brainwashed by the system from early age. Having to spend most of the day in school and then do homework. Like that we should not develop time comsuming interests that could conflict future working "career".
The media and commercials brainwash us into this comsumer spending trap. But I am starting to wonder if it really makes us happy.
because life is about enjoying yourself.
you only live once.
do you want to live your entire life 'wanting' that big leather sectional, instead of that tiny microfiber one?
or wanting a king bed, instead you settle for a queen?
or driving a Honda accord and resenting the guys in the S Class Mercedes?
or watching tv on your little 42in plasma and resenting your friends when they have a 65in plasma?
you know how to get those things? you fucking work! and make good choices and investments in both time and money.
lazy motherfuckers never get shit... spend all their time worrying about what other people have and hoping "if only I'd win the lottery".
suck it up and work your ass off.. work harder than the other guy.. take risks.
fucking crybabies... you don't want to work? fine.. be poor and have shitty, cheap things, but shut the fuck up about everybody else who actually wants to enjoy their success.
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"If you work for a living why do you kill yourself working?"
Good bad ugly deleted scene from the original release:
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The drive to have a big house seems to be a very strong genetic programing. If not, then why would so many make it their no1 priority in life.
I don't think people should do what others expect, they should do what they want. I didn't plan on buying a home at an early age but we played our cards and things worked out extremely well. The income from homestay students and tutoring pays my mortgage, utilities, car loan, etc. So what I make at my day job goes to investments and other shit. I'm putting away max contributions towards retirement and everything else I save goes into tax free savings and other entry-level investments. The housing market is booming too and my property value shot up tremendously. So there was a lot of luck there too. If I wasn't so frivolous with my spending and didn't do stupid shit like buying a new car I could be even further ahead.
I think because people don't keep track of their finances they suffer as a result. That's probably why it feels like they're being slave driven. I don't feel like that. I'm excited. I don't "enjoy" working, but I enjoy how comfortable things are getting for myself and my family. I feel a lot of energy and momentum driving me to work harder and harder. And whenever I start to feel burnt out, I'll just scale back how much I work and will be financially secure because I'm not pissing my money away like an idiot. I try to make all my money work for me, and if it's not working for me I make sure to hold onto it and not spend it frivolously.
My neighbor is a nurse and just bought her third house at 23. Her boyfriend works from home part time and they're planning on buying another house. They work hard as fuck but will be able to pay off their investments with the income they generate. Their homes will be paid off with ease. They're working hard now while all their friends get shit faced, but they'll be laughing when they retire early and enjoy the fruits of their labor. I feel that when you're young, you have the energy and drive to work hard. I don't feel like I'm "wasting my good years" at all. If I could get another job to make more money, I would definitely hit that up while I'm still young.
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No, not the case at all. Get a wife who is similarly driven, and make money. Then, invest this money, and make more money. I could not have what I have without me and my wife as a team. I know it sounds gay, but it really works for us. We do what we want in our spare time, and don't really have to think about anything before we buy it. We pretty much do hat we want. Before, when I was single, I didn't really have the same goals. It was going out, drinking, chasing pussy, and doing the occasional cocaine, lol. I know that might sound like fun, but I can honestly tell you, that having an end goal, with a partner, is something that is really cool. You just have to find that person who compliments you and drives you to be better.
Im with you bro. My life before my family (which consisted of working just enough to fund my partying/mild womanizing) seems empty and holllow compared to the life ive built with my wife.
having a good partner and building a family is an amazing and deeply satisfying experience. I cant imagine going through life alone anymore, when I was younger I thought id never get married, and thay getting married and having kids was gay as fuck. Its not, at all. My wife completes me.
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Im with you bro. My life before my family (which consisted of working just enough to fund my partying/mild womanizing) seems empty and holllow compared to the life ive built with my wife.
having a good partner and building a family is an amazing and deeply satisfying experience. I cant imagine going through life alone anymore, when I was younger I thought id never get married, and thay getting married and having kids was gay as fuck. Its not, at all. My wife completes me.
I completely agree, and I can relate to the last part. Before I met my wife I always thought 100% that I'd never get married, but then I started courting her with the understanding that her parents would definitely want a wedding. I knew I would marry here before I even hugged her. I was committed right from the start because she's such an amazing woman. She's a fierce bitch, but she pushes me to do way better than I ever could have expected.
Basically, the way things work is that she'll tell me what goals she has and then I run with it. She always has good ideas and she sets the bar high. At first it would always scare me and I was apprehensive, but we've made such huge leaps and hit some awesome milestones. I trust her judgement finally and don't ever regret the things we do together. If it weren't for her kicking my ass, I'd be completely self-absorbed and not driven whatsoever. If I didn't listen to her ideas, I'd sit on the couch all day and never leave the house. I'm a hard worker, but I can be a bit lazy unless I'm given goals and a timeline so we balance each other out quite well.
I think people like us are incredibly lucky. I'd like to think I'm a really nice guy and could land a really nice girl, but I don't ever think I could find another woman as awesome as my wife in this lifetime. I lucked the fuck out. So doing the whole wedding thing was no big deal. In the end it was actually pretty fun. Glad to hear you guys have a good thing going to! 8)
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because life is about enjoying yourself.
you only live once.
do you want to live your entire life 'wanting' that big leather sectional, instead of that tiny microfiber one?
or wanting a king bed, instead you settle for a queen?
or driving a Honda accord and resenting the guys in the S Class Mercedes?
or watching tv on your little 42in plasma and resenting your friends when they have a 65in plasma?
Wow epic missing the point.
The point is to settle with a 42" and a Honda, work less and have more TIME to do stuff.
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I completely agree, and I can relate to the last part. Before I met my wife I always thought 100% that I'd never get married, but then I started courting her with the understanding that her parents would definitely want a wedding. I knew I would marry here before I even hugged her. I was committed right from the start because she's such an amazing woman. She's a fierce bitch, but she pushes me to do way better than I ever could have expected.
Basically, the way things work is that she'll tell me what goals she has and then I run with it. She always has good ideas and she sets the bar high. At first it would always scare me and I was apprehensive, but we've made such huge leaps and hit some awesome milestones. I trust her judgement finally and don't ever regret the things we do together. If it weren't for her kicking my ass, I'd be completely self-absorbed and not driven whatsoever. If I didn't listen to her ideas, I'd sit on the couch all day and never leave the house. I'm a hard worker, but I can be a bit lazy unless I'm given goals and a timeline so we balance each other out quite well.
I think people like us are incredibly lucky. I'd like to think I'm a really nice guy and could land a really nice girl, but I don't ever think I could find another woman as awesome as my wife in this lifetime. I lucked the fuck out. So doing the whole wedding thing was no big deal. In the end it was actually pretty fun. Glad to hear you guys have a good thing going to! 8)
So your goal in life is to work a lot and buy a big house ?
You dont have any adventure in life you want to explore ?
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Can't wait til Dustin and shocks kids turn out to be ingrate burnouts and squander everything :D
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Can't wait til Dustin and shocks kids turn out to be ingrate burnouts and squander everything :D
Nah, theyll inpire their kids with storys from their exciting life.
"Son I remember back in 2020 when I had worked hard for many years, I bought a brand new Mercedes"
Child: "Then what did you do ?"
"I started driving the Mercedes to work"
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Wow epic missing the point.
The point is to settle with a 42" and a Honda, work less and have more TIME to do stuff.
No, the point is to acquire needlessly expensive trinkets and then brag about them online and IRL. And of course call everyone who is happy without being a mindless consumer lazy. Brilliant brainwashing by our corporate culture.
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Nah, theyll inpire their kids with storys from their exciting life.
"Son I remember back in 2020 when I had worked hard for many years, I bought a brand new Mercedes"
Child: "Then what did you do ?"
"I started driving the Mercedes to work"
:D
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Nah, theyll inpire their kids with storys from their exciting life.
"Son I remember back in 2020 when I had worked hard for many years, I bought a brand new Mercedes"
Child: "Then what did you do ?"
"I started driving the Mercedes to work"
;D Nice one.
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Brilliant brainwashing by our corporate culture.
Magazines and TV all part of it to ensure they get advertising.
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I find working 40 hours a complete waste of time. I only work my shitty job because it offers me good health insurance. Maybe if I had a better job I would have a different outlook.
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I find working 40 hours a complete waste of time. I only work my shitty job because it offers me good health insurance. Maybe if I had a better job I would have a different outlook.
Oh, here's one:
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Oh, here's one:
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It's gay only if you want it to be right?
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It's gay only if you want it to be right?
One can only say that one enjoys work if he could do the job also for free.
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It's a means to and end. If there was a better way to spend less time in the office, but have the means to do what you want, I'm sure most would.
No they wouldn't. I used to feel the same way, but what I have found over the years is that only a select few really want an alternative lifestyle of working less, but having more free time, along with more money.
They say they want it, ...but when push comes to shove, they're not willing to take the actions necessary to achieve this. They'd rather talk about it, ...but when it comes to actually taking the action steps to bring it into fruition, they instead opt for 'Dancing With The Stars"
The "system" has been extremely successful at pacifying & indoctrinating her slaves.
Just like the lifetime criminal who feels lost out in the real world who commits crimes in order to return to the familiar comfort of incarceration, most people welcome the familiarity of their slavery.
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One can only say that one enjoys work if he could do the job also for free.
That's my definition of a project. Something that you do in your spare time but which isn't classified as fucking around leisure.
There's a lot to be said for projects and tinkering, whether physically or just intellectually. Following your nose helps clarify your interests and uncover new ones. (Danger: Road Without End.) Even a failed project or one which never gets off the back burner (yes, I need more time) is gratifying because I learn so much along the way.
You want to spend less in order to work less so you can have more time for 'stuff.' Ok. What stuff in particular? I agree that money and marketability isn't a measure of worth. Without regard to earning potential, what stuff do you want to do?
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
This never gets old.
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People do what makes them happy (broad, subjective term) within the constraints of the system.
Because of the subjective nature of happiness, and the choices that flow from this definition, different people will view each others choices through the prism of their own reality, and either agree or disagree with that person's decisions.
Despite what you may hear, people never change and the universe is indifferent. So, do what makes you happy (providing it does no harm to others) and don't give a fuck what other people think.
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If you want to live the good life stay single, don't have any kids and save your money
What exactly are you saving your money for? Do you have plans or goals that you want to make happen with that money or is your purpose strictly the pursuit of money itself?
If you want to live fruitless life with no children then you better have some big dreams you want to dedicate your life to.
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Become self employed if possible. "Work" should be a passion.
This is what I want to do.
Problem is having an idea for a business that wont fold the first year.
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Exactly...this makes sense. However most people are so hopelessy indoctrinated they have zero ability to actually think for themselves.
Whenever i try to point these things out to someone, the reaction is always a brief silence coupled with a confused stare...followed by them falling back to the old standby of 'thats weird...no..thats just crazy..no.uh..uh...just no'
Most people are sheep and need to be told what to do and what to think.
These were the results the so-called "education" system was designed to produce.
It's a system of debt slavery, and churns people out to become selves to a system
There's a better way, ...but when anyone trys to tell people about it, they are viciously attacked or silenced.
You can learn more at http://www.ViewTheInfo.com
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Can't wait til Dustin and shocks kids turn out to be ingrate burnouts and squander everything :D
Cant be any worse than I was in my twenties, loser, junkie, burned out drug addict. :D
Im trying to figure out if its best to tell him and try and educate him or if I should not let on the issues I had... Addiction/Alcoholism runs in my family and I don't want him to walk my line, thats for sure.
Oh, and we live very modestly and don't really stress about how much money we make... we live within our means and enjoy a simple life, because when I was younger I burned out on the "rat race" and decided I would never again work a job I hated just because it paid well. Money =/= happiness
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I completely agree, and I can relate to the last part. Before I met my wife I always thought 100% that I'd never get married, but then I started courting her with the understanding that her parents would definitely want a wedding. I knew I would marry here before I even hugged her. I was committed right from the start because she's such an amazing woman. She's a fierce bitch, but she pushes me to do way better than I ever could have expected.
Basically, the way things work is that she'll tell me what goals she has and then I run with it. She always has good ideas and she sets the bar high. At first it would always scare me and I was apprehensive, but we've made such huge leaps and hit some awesome milestones. I trust her judgement finally and don't ever regret the things we do together. If it weren't for her kicking my ass, I'd be completely self-absorbed and not driven whatsoever. If I didn't listen to her ideas, I'd sit on the couch all day and never leave the house. I'm a hard worker, but I can be a bit lazy unless I'm given goals and a timeline so we balance each other out quite well.
I think people like us are incredibly lucky. I'd like to think I'm a really nice guy and could land a really nice girl, but I don't ever think I could find another woman as awesome as my wife in this lifetime. I lucked the fuck out. So doing the whole wedding thing was no big deal. In the end it was actually pretty fun. Glad to hear you guys have a good thing going to! 8)
That is AWESOME!!! :)
Instead of achieving to be happy, ...you're inspired, ...and therefore happily achieving!
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It's all good in the clitoral hood!
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Wow epic missing the point.
The point is to settle with a 42" and a Honda, work less and have more TIME to do stuff.
Hmmm... I dunno Kofo. From my perspective, it might be YOU missing the point?
Who is to say these things are mutually exclusive?
It absolutely is possible to work less, have more TIME to do stuff WITHOUT having to "settle" for less.
If all someone wants is a 42" that's fine, but why should someone "settle" for less than what they want if it is within their power to achieve it?
Let's look at it another way. What if someone said to you, what's the point of backpacking across Europe, seeing the 7 wonders of the world, scuba diving the Great Barrier Reef, or spending quality time finding sea shells on the beach with your little ones, ...when you can instead settle for seeing pictures in Condé Nast, or kissing your sleeping baby when you come home from work? If you settle for working yourself to the bone, never travel, or spend time with your loved ones, you'll at least have a few 60" flat screens to see footage of Machu Pichu, and you'll at least be able to own a 6,000 sf house?
Would YOU be willing to "settle". No you wouldn't, because its not what YOU want for your life is it?
I'll never understand why it is that when people decide what they want for their lives, ...they somehow expect everyone else to want the same thing, ...and somehow think there's something wrong with them if they don't.
If backpacking through Europe on a shoestring works for you... more power to you.
If someone has goals towards which they're both inspired & willing to work hard to achieve... more power to them
There's nothing wrong with hard work, ...unless one is able to achieve the same results by working smarter.
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Hmmm... I dunno Kofo. From my perspective, it might be YOU missing the point?
Who is to say these things are mutually exclusive?
It absolutely is possible to work less, have more TIME to do stuff WITHOUT having to "settle" for less.
If all someone wants is a 42" that's fine, but why should someone "settle" for less than what they want if it is within their power to achieve it?
Let's look at it another way. What if someone said to you, what's the point of backpacking across Europe, seeing the 7 wonders of the world, scuba diving the Great Barrier Reef, or spending quality time finding sea shells on the beach with your little ones, ...when you can instead settle for seeing pictures in Condé Nast, or kissing your sleeping baby when you come home from work? If you settle for working yourself to the bone, never travel, or spend time with your loved ones, you'll at least have a few 60" flat screens to see footage of Machu Pichu, and you'll at least be able to own a 6,000 sf house?
Would YOU be willing to "settle". No you wouldn't, because its not what YOU want for your life is it?
I'll never understand why it is that when people decide what they want for their lives, ...they somehow expect everyone else to want the same thing, ...and somehow think there's something wrong with them if they don't.
If backpacking through Europe on a shoestring works for you... more power to you.
If someone has goals towards which they're both inspired & willing to work hard to achieve... more power to them
There's nothing wrong with hard work, ...unless one is able to achieve the same results by working smarter.
I dont really care about how other people live.
I simply honestly dont understand WHY people work to get a bigger TV, house and car. Whats so great about about that compared to having more TIME ?
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I dont really care about how other people live.
I simply honestly dont understand WHY people work to get a bigger TV, house and car. Whats so great about about that compared to having more TIME ?
Some people don't value time as much as you do. People have different priorities, some people don't enjoy having free time or living a slow life... some people do.
Its not one size fits all... some people look at what you do and think "why the fuck would I want to waste my time doing that, when I could be doing *insert whatever here*?"
Thats the point.,,, everyone has different ideas on what makes them happy, and no 2 people are goign to agree.'
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I personally enjoy a modest, easy going life, but I would never, ever want to backpack across Europe. Not my thing.
Im in Germany right now on business, and all I can think about is getting home to my wife.
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Some people don't value time as much as you do. People have different priorities, some people don't enjoy having free time or living a slow life... some people do.
Its not one size fits all... some people look at what you do and think "why the fuck would I want to waste my time doing that, when I could be doing *insert whatever here*?"
Thats the point.,,, everyone has different ideas on what makes them happy, and no 2 people are goign to agree.'
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I personally enjoy a modest, easy going life, but I would never, ever want to backpack across Europe. Not my thing.
Im in Germany right now on business, and all I can think about is getting home to my wife.
Sure I get that.
But aint it a bit sad if a person doesnt even THINK that "I wish I had more time to *insert whatever here*" ?
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Sure I get that.
But aint it a bit sad if a person doesnt even THINK that "I wish I had more time to *insert whatever here*" ?
Not if they don't feel they need more time for whatever it is. If they feel they have adequate time to do whatever they enjoy and still work full time, then I guess they're happy. I know I personally wish I didn't have to work 40hrs week, but I do to support my family and have enough money for us to go do things with our free time.
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Not if they don't feel they need more time for whatever it is. If they feel they have adequate time to do whatever they enjoy and still work full time, then I guess they're happy. I know I personally wish I didn't have to work 40hrs week, but I do to support my family and have enough money for us to go do things with our free time.
I believe most people work a lot to buy toys because they are brought up that way and because society works in that way.
Its not like they make a conscious choice, should I work or explore, they just act on autopilot.
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Can't wait til Dustin and shocks kids turn out to be ingrate burnouts and squander everything :D
Nah, not at all, man. Everyone else our age complains about their rent payment bouncing or not understanding where their last paycheque went. But that's not us. No one in our family will ever become ungrateful through being spoiled. They'll get the same hard lessons we did. We grew up BRUTALLY poor and everyone in my family learned from it. Wife's family came here from a refugee camp in Thailand and all her siblings all bought houses in cash before their 30's.
None of us are ungrateful for anything and no one's coasted by on someone else's hard work. Thanks for your concern though. If you move to the west coast then let me know. I'll have more rental properties if you're interested. You sound like a renter. Must have good references though, I don't like deadbeats. 8)
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Another fox and grapes thread.....
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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
Are we brainwashed by the system from early age. Having to spend most of the day in school and then do homework. Like that we should not develop time comsuming interests that could conflict future working "career".
The media and commercials brainwash us into this comsumer spending trap. But I am starting to wonder if it really makes us happy.
Who are you kidding? You want the 'toys'; you just want the government and/or your parents to give them to you vs. you busting your @$$ to get them.
It appears you're the one who's brainwashed by lazy liberalism.
Camping, fishing, hunting, traveling, etc.........That ain't free and certainly not cheap. You're buying into the BS that SOMEBODY ELSE should work hard; so that you don't have to do so.
At some point, SOMEBODY is paying for this mess.
Besides, you act as if it's an either/or routine. For years, I've put in 60+ hours a week working. Yet, for some reason, I've managed to pump iron 4 times a week, go on date nights with my wife, vacations with my wife and my kids, etc.
Doing all these extracuricular activites is much easier when you have MONEY in your pocket. With regards to the iron thing, for some reason I found that the harder I work and more money I make, the easier it is to train at the gym, buy food (steak, chicken, fish, veggies), get supplements (notwithstanding my affinity for finding clearance sales at GNC) and so forth.
BTW, Ronnie Coleman won 3 Olympias while working as a full-time cop. I'm just sayin'.
Or just live low and work less, with less savings of course. But with a well lived life ?
Been there, done that!! It's called being PO'!
No thanks!!!
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An American businessman was standing at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish.
“How long it took you to catch them?” The American asked.
“Only a little while.” The Mexican replied.
“Why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish?” The American then asked.
“I have enough to support my family’s immediate needs.” The Mexican said.
“But,” The American then asked, “What do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds you buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats.”
“Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the consumers, eventually opening your own can factory. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then, senor?”
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO (Initial Public Offering) and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
Would these be some of the same Mexicans, breaking their necks to sneak into the United States?
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Sounds like a bunch of underachieving lazy bums trying to justify their life style while making fun of those with a work ethic. Keep voting Democrat and maybe they will take more taxes out of the producers to help you out. Remember those nice vacations and car you wouldn't be able to afford if you weren't living free in your Mom's house. Houses cost money. Food, house taxes, cars, electricity, heat, furniture, water, vacations, taking care of children, and the list goes on cost money. Have you figured what it cost to feed a family of just 4 for a month?
I worked hard working all kinds of crazy shifts sometimes driving over 100 miles to work. What did I get for this? A 3000 sq ft house that excludes the other 1500sq ft that I have for a gym with an in ground pool. Two new cars and I retired at 52.
No one is going to give you anything. Work is called work. I know some of you won't work because you think your college degree entitles you to an office with a secretary. No it entitles you to an entry level job that you can work up from. A college degree today is the high school diploma of my youth.
TESTIFY, BROTHER!!!
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I find working 40 hours a complete waste of time. I only work my shitty job because it offers me good health insurance. Maybe if I had a better job I would have a different outlook.
I haven't worked a mere 40 hours a week in YEARS!!! That's pratically a vacation.
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You know what we call people who work 40 hours a week?
SLACKERS!!!
What about fatso naturals like yourself that force-feed to get the scale to move up
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What about fatso naturals like yourself that force-feed to get the scale to move up
You mean what about twigs like you who've been a buck fifty for years on end who can hardly bench their own bodyweight?
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If you want to live the good life stay single, don't have any kids and save your money
Try (in this order):
1) Education
2) Job
3) Wife
4) Kids
It works great for a lot of people, myself included.
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Nah, not at all, man. Everyone else our age complains about their rent payment bouncing or not understanding where their last paycheque went. But that's not us. No one in our family will ever become ungrateful through being spoiled. They'll get the same hard lessons we did. We grew up BRUTALLY poor and everyone in my family learned from it. Wife's family came here from a refugee camp in Thailand and all her siblings all bought houses in cash before their 30's.
None of us are ungrateful for anything and no one's coasted by on someone else's hard work. Thanks for your concern though. If you move to the west coast then let me know. I'll have more rental properties if you're interested. You sound like a renter. Must have good references though, I don't like deadbeats. 8)
haha, while i was kidding, my man. i actually do have one piece of advice, if you're willing to listen: think twice before you attempt to instill your kids with the same exact values you had.
i'm, in a sense, one generation "ahead" of you. my parents were both quite poor, and they were the ones who worked hard and made lots of money. your original post could have been written by my dad, and i wouldn't have batted an eye. he and my mom took every effort to ensure my siblings and i got a severe upbringing, nonetheless, so that we would take up the values they cherished and believed in so strongly.
well, the fact is, like me, your kids will grow up in a different environment than you did. it's VERY likely they won't ever see eye-to-eye with you. and if everything works out with them, and somehow they adopt your attitude entirely, the struggle is going to be twice as great when it comes to their children. assuming they acquire your wealth, your descendents will lose the values you try to pass down, sooner or later.
my advice is: don't try to force a square peg in a round hole. it's futile. understand that things are going to have to change.
anyway, i AM a renter (hope i never own a house), and i do live on the west coast. we should get in touch ;D
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No they wouldn't. I used to feel the same way, but what I have found over the years is that only a select few really want an alternative lifestyle of working less, but having more free time, along with more money.
They say they want it, ...but when push comes to shove, they're not willing to take the actions necessary to achieve this. They'd rather talk about it, ...but when it comes to actually taking the action steps to bring it into fruition, they instead opt for 'Dancing With The Stars"
The "system" has been extremely successful at pacifying & indoctrinating her slaves.
Just like the lifetime criminal who feels lost out in the real world who commits crimes in order to return to the familiar comfort of incarceration, most people welcome the familiarity of their slavery.
Man has been designed to work and labor since the beginning of his existence. It's as simple as that.
"By the sweat of your brow you will eat" -Book of Genesis
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haha, while i was kidding, my man. i actually do have one piece of advice, if you're willing to listen: think twice before you attempt to instill your kids with the same exact values you had.
i'm, in a sense, one generation "ahead" of you. my parents were both quite poor, and they were the ones who worked hard and made lots of money. your original post could have been written by my dad, and i wouldn't have batted an eye. he and my mom took every effort to ensure my siblings and i got a severe upbringing, nonetheless, so that we would take up the values they cherished and believed in so strongly.
well, the fact is, like me, your kids will grow up in a different environment than you did. it's VERY likely they won't ever see eye-to-eye with you. and if everything works out with them, and somehow they adopt your attitude entirely, the struggle is going to be twice as great when it comes to their children. assuming they acquire your wealth, your descendents will lose the values you try to pass down, sooner or later.
my advice is: don't try to force a square peg in a round hole. it's futile. understand that things are going to have to change.
anyway, i AM a renter (hope i never own a house), and i do live on the west coast. we should get in touch ;D
Hahaha, nice!! Well for reals, if you're ever in BC then fire me a PM! ;D
Very sound advices. I would listen to them on the day of the competition. I think the one good thing my wife and I have going is our upbringings. I'm so happy to have grown up so brutally poor because I'd probably be a real sack of shit if I didn't see the darker side of things. Some people crumble from experiences like that but I had a positive outlook, I kind of lucked out in that respect. I don't ever want my kids to experience that but I also want to make sure I don't cater to their every whim. My parents took no bullshit from me and I won't take any bullshit from my kids.
I'm really happy to have kids at a young age too. I'm turning 28 next month and I feel like I'm 16 half the time, but the other half I feel like I'm 60. My daughter's just turning 4 months old and we plan on having another one before or around we turn 30. My parents had me at a younger age and my wife's parents had her at an older age, so we've got a good mix going on. I'm just really pumped and I think that because we actually WANT kids, we're way better situated than most. Lots of people have uhh-ohh babies and they don't seem to fare too well if their parents have a shitty attitude. Me, I love the shit out of kids and family so I think when I fuck up (which is inevitable) we should be able to get on the mend pretty quickly.
Try (in this order):
1) Education
2) Job
3) Wife
4) Kids
It works great for a lot of people, myself included.
Same here. I'm extremely solitary and don't like to venture out too much unless it's in the company of family and close friends. I work my ass off but still feel like I get plenty of time with them. Maybe I'm just an asshole and I'm content with not spending time with them 24/7 lol... but either way, I'm genuinely happy. Got a new baby girl and my wife and I are working harder than ever. We've got a reason now and despite having our plates loaded up with tasks, we have far more energy and momentum to work hard.
It's reminds me of dieting and bodybuilding. Sometimes you need some downtime. But if you don't work hard the majority of the time, you shouldn't be allotting yourself too many breaks and shortcuts. Ultimately, hard work is what it takes to get you where you want to be. You can't coast and expect things to fall into place. I was really lucky to not have gracefully fumbled through all the tough periods in my life and come out with minor scrapes and bruises. I see others get hit with some drama or financial difficulty and wither up into a ball of shit and give up on life. I don't understand that sort of pussy aching bullshit. My parents worked 50 times harder than I do so I feel blessed every day I'm alive. People get blown to shit and live in warzones but I wake up to a hot wife in a nice house with unlimited food and luxuries. No complaints at all. I'd be a piece of shit to complain about anything.
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You mean what about twigs like you who've been a buck fifty for years on end who can hardly bench their own bodyweight?
It would be something like this, "someone who weighs more than you if you were ever to get lean"
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It would be something like this, "someone who weighs more than you if you were ever to get lean"
Or more like, someone who risks tearing his so-called pecs, trying to bench his own bodyweight (even with a spotter).
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holy fuck..
maybe I was raised differently.
there are things I want, and I know that to get them, I have to work hard and smart.
this "work just hard enough to sit around and do nothing" is complete fucking bullshit.
I dated a girl who was nearly 40yrs old, worked retail and would save up a little money and spend it all on 'vacations' a couple times a year.. then she was fucking broke for months. she'd go to vegas, she'd go to.. I dunno, wherever. but she still lived at home and paid her parents $200 rent, and had a new Hyundai elantra.
where the fuck are the long term goals? is your only goal to do nothing? fine... then work paycheck to paycheck and be fucking broke and resentfull of those of us who work harder and harder and enjoy the benefits.
do I have a 65in plasma because I want to show off to my friends? no.. I don't have 'friends' over for parties or whatever.. I'm a fucking adult, I don't party.
do I have a big german lux sedan so I can show off to my friends and drive them around town? no. I hardly ever have anybody in my car that isn't fam/gf. it's safe and solid.
would I work my ass off to have a Ferrari when I couldn't afford it? no.. I'd buy a $35k Porsche. to 'show off'? no... for the driving experience.
this mentality of "you only want these overpriced things to show off to people" makes me sick.
I hear that and I can picture exactly where you'll be in 20years... driving an old car, renting an apt, and working from paycheck to paycheck for somebody else alongside kids who are 20-30yrs younger than you... depressed, bitter, and resentful of those who live the lives you wish you could, trying to justify your own laziness, lack of ambition, lack of forethought, and deep seeded fear of risk (that was probably handed down from your father).
what would your grandfathers think if they heard you saying that "people work to hard" bullshit?
i'll bet dollars to doughnuts he'd be embarrassed as hell how you turned out, and hopefully he'd slap his son for raising some lazy liberal, wannabe French Socialist.
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holy fuck..
maybe I was raised differently.
there are things I want, and I know that to get them, I have to work hard and smart.
this "work just hard enough to sit around and do nothing" is complete fucking bullshit.
I dated a girl who was nearly 40yrs old, worked retail and would save up a little money and spend it all on 'vacations' a couple times a year.. then she was fucking broke for months. she'd go to vegas, she'd go to.. I dunno, wherever. but she still lived at home and paid her parents $200 rent, and had a new Hyundai elantra.
where the fuck are the long term goals? is your only goal to do nothing? fine... then work paycheck to paycheck and be fucking broke and resentfull of those of us who work harder and harder and enjoy the benefits.
do I have a 65in plasma because I want to show off to my friends? no.. I don't have 'friends' over for parties or whatever.. I'm a fucking adult, I don't party.
do I have a big german lux sedan so I can show off to my friends and drive them around town? no. I hardly ever have anybody in my car that isn't fam/gf. it's safe and solid.
would I work my ass off to have a Ferrari when I couldn't afford it? no.. I'd buy a $35k Porsche. to 'show off'? no... for the driving experience.
this mentality of "you only want these overpriced things to show off to people" makes me sick.
I hear that and I can picture exactly where you'll be in 20years... driving an old car, renting an apt, and working from paycheck to paycheck for somebody else alongside kids who are 20-30yrs younger than you... depressed, bitter, and resentful of those who live the lives you wish you could, trying to justify your own laziness, lack of ambition, lack of forethought, and deep seeded fear of risk (that was probably handed down from your father).
what would your grandfathers think if they heard you saying that "people work to hard" bullshit?
i'll bet dollars to doughnuts he'd be embarrassed as hell how you turned out, and hopefully he'd slap his son for raising some lazy liberal, wannabe French Socialist.
These people are a dime a dozen, bro. They're happy to sit by the river complaining about gas prices and eating government cheese. They don't yearn for anything more and it's sure reflected in their work ethic. I'm not trying to put down lower income families. It's not even that. It's the poor people MENTALITY. They don't desire anything more in life. I have a shitty wage myself but really good benefits and a flexible schedule, so I just work with what I have and make things work for me. No one else is going to do the leg work, right?
My buddy moved to Canada just over a decade ago. He came from China and always gets me amped up. He went to school, got into finance, drives a 20 year old car and scrimps up every dollar until he paid off his education and bought a modest home. But he's the king of his castle. The 20 year old car and older home work, because he came here with literally nothing. He's almost paid his home off and did renovations to bring up the value. He's seeing returns on all his investments and it's all done on a minimum wage. Why can't others work half as hard as him and improve their standard of living? Instead, they want to raise minimum wage and want cut backs and handouts galore.
Any time I check into my finances and spending habits I consult with him. He always cusses me out and says I'm too frivolous with my money, so he really grounds me. He is a devilishly cheap bastard but his frugality really helped me out. I'm no where near as cheap as him but all of the best practices and perspectives he's given me has really changed my spending habits. Money should fuck up your life. It used to fuck up mine, but now it's given me freedom. I'm still far from being a financial guru but at least I'm not taking it in the ass like most people do willingly. There's always a better way.
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Try (in this order):
1) Education
2) Job
3) Wife
4) Kids
5 ) Wife cheats on you and divorces you.
6 ) Live in a shitty rented apartment sustaining yourself on instant noodles.
7 ) Pay child support and alimony to your wife.
8 ) Your wife lives in your house with her new boyfriend.
;D
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Sounds very boring compared to 6 months of backpacking around the world.
would rather work my ass off, travel weekly for work, and have 2-4 weeks every year of staying in 4/5 star resorts around the world, a nice home, ski vacations, and a fun car.
6 months backpacking as a broke guy...no thanks. Fun as a kid, but I can only take so much of sleeping in shit weather and ghettos, crap food, etc. Luxury is much more enjoyable.
Just the ski vacations alone warrant a very good job. Skiing is fucking expensive. Add in resorts, plane tickets, new gear, etc....yeah, a 6 figure salary bare minimum if you ever want to take someone with you. I take my GF, and will eventually take my kids. Expensive. But worth it.
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would rather work my ass off, travel weekly for work, and have 2-4 weeks every year of staying in 4/5 star resorts around the world, a nice home, ski vacations, and a fun car.
6 months backpacking as a broke guy...no thanks. Fun as a kid, but I can only take so much of sleeping in shit weather and ghettos, crap food, etc. Luxury is much more enjoyable.
Just the ski vacations alone warrant a very good job. Skiing is fucking expensive. Add in resorts, plane tickets, new gear, etc....yeah, a 6 figure salary bare minimum if you ever want to take someone with you. I take my GF, and will eventually take my kids. Expensive. But worth it.
Isnt it ironic though. Work so you can afford a vacation to get away from work. work 50 weeks so you can get 2 off? Thats fucked up when you think about it. LOL, I spent a week snowboarding in Colorado last year and spent like 3k.
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Isnt it ironic though. Work so you can afford a vacation to get away from work. work 50 weeks so you can get 2 off? Thats fucked up when you think about it. LOL, I spent a week snowboarding in Colorado last year and spent like 3k.
Haha, I love how you try and pass off 3k as a lot of money. So adorable ;D
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Haha, I love how you try and pass off 3k as a lot of money. So adorable ;D
A ski vacation isn't expensive is what I was pointing out.
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A ski vacation isn't expensive is what I was pointing out.
You're right, it's not.
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People put their life on hold for many years to get that pile. When its time to "live" and spend they dont know any other way than car and house. Because they have worked all their life and have never developed any interests. Then they say things like: "I love my job so much it doesnt feel like work to me" Trying to justify a wasted life.
If you truly love your work - it's NOT work... And if you don't LOVE your work you should immediately quit
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If you truly love your work - it's NOT work... And if you don't LOVE your work you should immediately quit
best advice in thread.
maybe not quit immediately. .. but definitely find another job you enjoy.
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i work 2-3 days a week for the most part/ 8 hr days.
last year i worked 1200 hours in total.
i live modestly on a property i never thought i'd own. i am able to go away a couple times a year.
i cant say i'll never have a lambo or any other kind of status symbol of that nature, mostly because i dont desire one. im sure if i applied myself i could.
for some reason i put a higher value on my time than money. i could have more money. but then id have less time. i have everything in life i could ever want, so the drive to put in x hours of time extra to make more of an income isnt there. basically semi retired at a young age. i have been for 7 years now. i could keep doing what i do until the day they put me in a box and i could die a perfectly happy man.
i think at the end of the day its doing what makes you happy that makes you happy. if working 60 hr weeks and being at the top of your game in your profession is a driving motivator for you, and finding balance in there for your personal life, regardless of what you make id say your successful.
like wise if your a blue collar family man who works for the betterment of his family, who has 3 kids that he gets up at 6am to take to hockey on weekends and he loves doing it i'd say hes successful too.
it comes down to making enough to do those things. and for a lot of people, living in this society, and those who wish to continue to live in this society with the things that everyone else has, it is necessary to work 40hr weeks.
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5 ) Wife cheats on you and divorces you.
6 ) Live in a shitty rented apartment sustaining yourself on instant noodles.
7 ) Pay child support and alimony to your wife.
8 ) Your wife lives in your house with her new boyfriend.
;D
You apparently have bad taste in women. I've been happily married for nearly 12 years.
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I hear that and I can picture exactly where you'll be in 20years... driving an old car, renting an apt, and working from paycheck to paycheck for somebody else alongside kids who are 20-30yrs younger than you... depressed, bitter, and resentful of those who live the lives you wish you could, trying to justify your own laziness, lack of ambition, lack of forethought, and deep seeded fear of risk (that was probably handed down from your father).
For every happy, fit, ripped and tanned surfer bum out there I can give you 10 of the unhappy, unfit, two hours a day commuter, Type 2 diabetic, office worker types.
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i work 2-3 days a week for the most part/ 8 hr days.
last year i worked 1200 hours in total.
i live modestly on a property i never thought i'd own. i am able to go away a couple times a year.
i cant say i'll never have a lambo or any other kind of status symbol of that nature, mostly because i dont desire one. im sure if i applied myself i could.
for some reason i put a higher value on my time than money. i could have more money. but then id have less time. i have everything in life i could ever want, so the drive to put in x hours of time extra to make more of an income isnt there. basically semi retired at a young age. i have been for 7 years now. i could keep doing what i do until the day they put me in a box and i could die a perfectly happy man.
i think at the end of the day its doing what makes you happy that makes you happy. if working 60 hr weeks and being at the top of your game in your profession is a driving motivator for you, and finding balance in there for your personal life, regardless of what you make id say your successful.
like wise if your a blue collar family man who works for the betterment of his family, who has 3 kids that he gets up at 6am to take to hockey on weekends and he loves doing it i'd say hes successful too.
it comes down to making enough to do those things. and for a lot of people, living in this society, and those who wish to continue to live in this society with the things that everyone else has, it is necessary to work 40hr weeks.
that's a great outlook bro
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For every happy, fit, ripped and tanned surfer bum out there I can give you 10 of the unhappy, unfit, two hours a day commuter, Type 2 diabetic, office worker types.
who pays the surfer bums rent? buys them food? going from dumb woman to dumb woman to support their lifestyle..
I'm a man... i'll pay for myself, thanks.
something called a 'work ethic' that seems to be lacking in these lazy fucking bums.
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who pays the surfer bums rent? buys them food? going from dumb woman to dumb woman to support their lifestyle..
I'm a man... i'll pay for myself, thanks.
something called a 'work ethic' that seems to be lacking in these lazy fucking bums.
Yep. People have a poor person and worthless piece of shit mentality these days. Everyone wants to cross their arms, make stupid fucking frowny faces and don't want to work because of "disparity" and because billionaires make billions. What a bunch of stupid pieces of shit. They have no worth ethic whatsoever. They'll gladly take out $100-$200k in student loans though, rely in income assistance, welfares and subsidies and still pout all day. They don't understand that it's the tax dollars of the hard working folks that pay for it. They just have this privileged attitude and expect people to humor their masters degree in lesbian psychology and give them a 6 figure salary on the spot. I hate looking these fuckers in the eyes when I get my coffee at Starbucks. Worthless pieces of shit.
My grandparents came to this country with nothing and busted their asses their entire lives to give us a good foundation to start from. And my wife's parents came to Canada with literally a $20 bill and nothing else. Now all of us kids have homes, careers, educations and don't own hundreds of thousands in debt and back taxes like a lot of fuckers our age. They bitch and moan all day long but don't realize that there are people who wake up and their biggest concern is whether or not they'll eat today. Don't take this shit for granted, fuckers. You can go out and become millionaires, but instead people sit on the computers using their borrowed Wifi connection, pissed at the world and waiting for minimum wage to get raised to $20 an hour (as if it will solve any financial crisis whatsoever). I just can't stand the lazy fucks that I encounter on a daily basis. Good on the Getbiggers who work hard and relax hard. Nothing wrong with sitting back and feeling good after a hard days's work. But when you leach off of government assistance and complain 24/7, you deserve to be shot in the head so the rest of society can move forward without being anchored down.
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ESF what kind of job do you have? you seem to be a baller
engineer?
surgeon?
lawyer?
???
I run a few businesses... one of which is a personal trainer & nutritionist (cpt/csn).. the others I don't go into.
I'm not a baller. I like nice things and recognize the value, or lack of value in things. (would you rather pay $800 for a gold invictia? or $800 for a stainless steel Oris?-type of stuff)
you just need to figure out what's important and what's not, and evaluate your priorties... not "you", but people in general.
most people think in terms of 'us and them'... what seperates 'you' from the 'rich' people? not a whole lot, once you figure it out. most people are afraid to take risks... they never sit down and figure out HOW they could afford the car/house/food/watch/tv/ect... they always wanted, instead they sit and daydream about how nice it'd be if they won the lottery.
get an idea and follow it through to the end. if it works, great, do it again... if it doesn't work, great, try something else.
there's a watch that has min/hour hands that say "remember, you will die"... so why do people wait and wait and wait to do what they could be doing today to live how they want to live? i'll never understand it.
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i fucked up
i'm single
but i have a kid :(
at least that's cheaper than living WITH A WOMAN AND A KID
bitches cost so much money, their hair, skin cream this that this tjat it never ends
could be worse she could spend money on steriods and still look like a skinny-fat twink
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Yep. People have a poor person and worthless piece of shit mentality these days. Everyone wants to cross their arms, make stupid fucking frowny faces and don't want to work because of "disparity" and because billionaires make billions. What a bunch of stupid pieces of shit. They have no worth ethic whatsoever. They'll gladly take out $100-$200k in student loans though, rely in income assistance, welfares and subsidies and still pout all day. They don't understand that it's the tax dollars of the hard working folks that pay for it. They just have this privileged attitude and expect people to humor their masters degree in lesbian psychology and give them a 6 figure salary on the spot. I hate looking these fuckers in the eyes when I get my coffee at Starbucks. Worthless pieces of shit.
My grandparents came to this country with nothing and busted their asses their entire lives to give us a good foundation to start from. And my wife's parents came to Canada with literally a $20 bill and nothing else. Now all of us kids have homes, careers, educations and don't own hundreds of thousands in debt and back taxes like a lot of fuckers our age. They bitch and moan all day long but don't realize that there are people who wake up and their biggest concern is whether or not they'll eat today. Don't take this shit for granted, fuckers. You can go out and become millionaires, but instead people sit on the computers using their borrowed Wifi connection, pissed at the world and waiting for minimum wage to get raised to $20 an hour (as if it will solve any financial crisis whatsoever). I just can't stand the lazy fucks that I encounter on a daily basis. Good on the Getbiggers who work hard and relax hard. Nothing wrong with sitting back and feeling good after a hard days's work. But when you leach off of government assistance and complain 24/7, you deserve to be shot in the head so the rest of society can move forward without being anchored down.
amen.
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who pays the surfer bums rent? buys them food? going from dumb woman to dumb woman to support their lifestyle..
I'm a man... i'll pay for myself, thanks.
something called a 'work ethic' that seems to be lacking in these lazy fucking bums.
You wrote: "working from paycheck to paycheck for somebody else alongside kids who are 20-30yrs younger than you" so I guess thats the surfer bum.
Other than that, are you so stuck in your mindset that you cant comprehend the work less, buy less, have more time mantra ? This whole " i'll pay for myself, thanks" argument got no meaning.
I get a feeling you think working a full week is a sacred duty, something holy.
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Yep. People have a poor person and worthless piece of shit mentality these days. Everyone wants to cross their arms, make stupid fucking frowny faces and don't want to work because of "disparity" and because billionaires make billions. What a bunch of stupid pieces of shit. They have no worth ethic whatsoever. They'll gladly take out $100-$200k in student loans though, rely in income assistance, welfares and subsidies and still pout all day. They don't understand that it's the tax dollars of the hard working folks that pay for it. They just have this privileged attitude and expect people to humor their masters degree in lesbian psychology and give them a 6 figure salary on the spot. I hate looking these fuckers in the eyes when I get my coffee at Starbucks. Worthless pieces of shit.
My grandparents came to this country with nothing and busted their asses their entire lives to give us a good foundation to start from. And my wife's parents came to Canada with literally a $20 bill and nothing else. Now all of us kids have homes, careers, educations and don't own hundreds of thousands in debt and back taxes like a lot of fuckers our age. They bitch and moan all day long but don't realize that there are people who wake up and their biggest concern is whether or not they'll eat today. Don't take this shit for granted, fuckers. You can go out and become millionaires, but instead people sit on the computers using their borrowed Wifi connection, pissed at the world and waiting for minimum wage to get raised to $20 an hour (as if it will solve any financial crisis whatsoever). I just can't stand the lazy fucks that I encounter on a daily basis. Good on the Getbiggers who work hard and relax hard. Nothing wrong with sitting back and feeling good after a hard days's work. But when you leach off of government assistance and complain 24/7, you deserve to be shot in the head so the rest of society can move forward without being anchored down.
Why do you write this here ?
Its about working less L E S S
No doubt hardworkers like yourself are the cornerstone of North-America, exploited by the people at the bottom and the top.
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i work 2-3 days a week for the most part/ 8 hr days.
last year i worked 1200 hours in total.
i live modestly on a property i never thought i'd own. i am able to go away a couple times a year.
i cant say i'll never have a lambo or any other kind of status symbol of that nature, mostly because i dont desire one. im sure if i applied myself i could.
for some reason i put a higher value on my time than money. i could have more money. but then id have less time. i have everything in life i could ever want, so the drive to put in x hours of time extra to make more of an income isnt there. basically semi retired at a young age. i have been for 7 years now. i could keep doing what i do until the day they put me in a box and i could die a perfectly happy man.
i think at the end of the day its doing what makes you happy that makes you happy. if working 60 hr weeks and being at the top of your game in your profession is a driving motivator for you, and finding balance in there for your personal life, regardless of what you make id say your successful.
like wise if your a blue collar family man who works for the betterment of his family, who has 3 kids that he gets up at 6am to take to hockey on weekends and he loves doing it i'd say hes successful too.
it comes down to making enough to do those things. and for a lot of people, living in this society, and those who wish to continue to live in this society with the things that everyone else has, it is necessary to work 40hr weeks.
Solid attitude man.
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Yep. People have a poor person and worthless piece of shit mentality these days. Everyone wants to cross their arms, make stupid fucking frowny faces and don't want to work because of "disparity" and because billionaires make billions. What a bunch of stupid pieces of shit. They have no worth ethic whatsoever. They'll gladly take out $100-$200k in student loans though, rely in income assistance, welfares and subsidies and still pout all day. They don't understand that it's the tax dollars of the hard working folks that pay for it. They just have this privileged attitude and expect people to humor their masters degree in lesbian psychology and give them a 6 figure salary on the spot. I hate looking these fuckers in the eyes when I get my coffee at Starbucks. Worthless pieces of shit.
My grandparents came to this country with nothing and busted their asses their entire lives to give us a good foundation to start from. And my wife's parents came to Canada with literally a $20 bill and nothing else. Now all of us kids have homes, careers, educations and don't own hundreds of thousands in debt and back taxes like a lot of fuckers our age. They bitch and moan all day long but don't realize that there are people who wake up and their biggest concern is whether or not they'll eat today. Don't take this shit for granted, fuckers. You can go out and become millionaires, but instead people sit on the computers using their borrowed Wifi connection, pissed at the world and waiting for minimum wage to get raised to $20 an hour (as if it will solve any financial crisis whatsoever). I just can't stand the lazy fucks that I encounter on a daily basis. Good on the Getbiggers who work hard and relax hard. Nothing wrong with sitting back and feeling good after a hard days's work. But when you leach off of government assistance and complain 24/7, you deserve to be shot in the head so the rest of society can move forward without being anchored down.
I don't like looking at poor people either. They give me the creeps. But if all goes to shit (it won't) and I have to work in Starbucks (I won't) to make ends meet (it won't) I would (I won't).
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Why do you write this here ?
Its about working less L E S S
No doubt hardworkers like yourself are the cornerstone of North-America, exploited by the people at the bottom and the top.
He's not exploited by anyone. He has the life he was, the money (for the most part) he wants, and he's able to do the things he wants.
Best of all, he doesn't have to mooch off anyone or demand that government give him anything.
The reason people like you complain about working is because you have yet to achieve anything.
Those who want things in life don't blubber about working less; they work MORE and actually GET what they want, whether it's possessions, a lifestyle, a physique, etc.
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Great topic of conversation, some intelligent folks on Getbig these days. Quality posts by Dustin and No One in this thread 8)
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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
Are we brainwashed by the system from early age. Having to spend most of the day in school and then do homework. Like that we should not develop time comsuming interests that could conflict future working "career".
The media and commercials brainwash us into this comsumer spending trap. But I am starting to wonder if it really makes us happy.
All of this shit costs money, so people spend so much time at work to afford all of this shit.
Some people are blessed and don't have to work to afford all of this, like Adonis or Cleanest Natural, but not the huge majority of people.
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the ones who say 'work less, buy less, ect..' are the ones who realize they're never going to accomplish anything in life. they have never, and will never build something from the ground up. they'll never build a business that they can pass along to their children, let alone pay for their children's education.
their only hope in life is to work for somebody else... to work for the people they despise. the ones who disagree with the work less/buy less "ethic".
they despise people like Warren Buffet, even though they fail to see Warren Buffet is frugal.
they think because successful people have money, they don't live within their means and they just work more to buy more crap just to impress them.
have fun working at Costco for the rest of your life... always looking forward to your two weeks vacation and blowing every penny you've saved for months on that vacation, only to be broke as fuck and unable to put new tires on your car for another 6 months.
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Why do you write this here ?
Its about working less L E S S
No doubt hardworkers like yourself are the cornerstone of North-America, exploited by the people at the bottom and the top.
Work hard, smart, whatever. Just WORK and don't expect handouts.
Working smarter is the ultimate goal. But you need a foundation. You don't find a 6 figure income without taking baby steps. Your investments don't show stronger returns until you've built them up and learned the whatever game it is that you're playing. This is the ultimate goal, reducing work hours and the stress inherent in working hard. But what I'm saying is while we're young and capable, work hard and get this foundation setup. People need to be realistic and this is where people's plans fall apart. Some people don't try at all and they get frustrated, not working at all and going straight to the miserable stage.
You don't want to be bricklaying your financial goals in your older years when you're tired and incapable. That's why I'm making hay while the sun is shining. I don't want to plug in long hours for much longer. My daughter's just 4 months old and as she gets more mobile I'd like to start scaling back the hours. With the game plan I've setup I should be able to do this. Right now I'm young and energetic. I'm becoming angrier and crankier by the day, but as long as I keep plugging away at the current pace I'll be financially secured and able to scale back the work hours before I go batshit on someone for looking at me stupidly. ;D
All all seriousness though, working smarter is the way to go. If I had a turnkey operation I'd go for that in a heartbeat. But the safest bet is to keep my day job, put money away into retirement funds and other small investments, don't accrue consumer debt (this one killed me and kills tons of people) and not being a lazy bastard.
PS @ESFitness, apparently Costco pays a really competitive wage for scanning groceries and has full benefits. My brother-in-law works there and has just purchased his second home, so he's doing well. He hooks me up with a Costco card too which is awesome. I've never had to pay for my Costco card and he doesn't even live in Canada. Costco is good in my books! 8)
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it's good to be a stingy tight ass untill you got a lot of cash that can be invested
i think
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Work hard, smart, whatever. Just WORK and don't expect handouts.
Working smarter is the ultimate goal. But you need a foundation. You don't find a 6 figure income without taking baby steps. Your investments don't show stronger returns until you've built them up and learned the whatever game it is that you're playing. This is the ultimate goal, reducing work hours and the stress inherent in working hard. But what I'm saying is while we're young and capable, work hard and get this foundation setup. People need to be realistic and this is where people's plans fall apart. Some people don't try at all and they get frustrated, not working at all and going straight to the miserable stage.
You don't want to be bricklaying your financial goals in your older years when you're tired and incapable. That's why I'm making hay while the sun is shining. I don't want to plug in long hours for much longer. My daughter's just 4 months old and as she gets more mobile I'd like to start scaling back the hours. With the game plan I've setup I should be able to do this. Right now I'm young and energetic. I'm becoming angrier and crankier by the day, but as long as I keep plugging away at the current pace I'll be financially secured and able to scale back the work hours before I go batshit on someone for looking at me stupidly. ;D
All all seriousness though, working smarter is the way to go. If I had a turnkey operation I'd go for that in a heartbeat. But the safest bet is to keep my day job, put money away into retirement funds and other small investments, don't accrue consumer debt (this one killed me and kills tons of people) and not being a lazy bastard.
PS @ESFitness, apparently Costco pays a really competitive wage for scanning groceries and has full benefits. My brother-in-law works there and has just purchased his second home, so he's doing well. He hooks me up with a Costco card too which is awesome. I've never had to pay for my Costco card and he doesn't even live in Canada. Costco is good in my books! 8)
I know.. I dated a girl who works at Costco. she's about 10yrs older than me and has been working there for about 10years, and will probably never leave.
she lives at home in her parents house, pays them $300/month 'rent', relies on them to buy groceries and spends all her money on going out to eat and drink, then goes on vacations and trips to vegas every few months then she's broke.
needless to say I left her immature ass.
must be nice to be content with being somebody elses employee until you're 65yrs old.
if that was the life I wanted, I'd move to France and be a socialist.
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I know.. I dated a girl who works at Costco. she's about 10yrs older than me and has been working there for about 10years, and will probably never leave.
she lives at home in her parents house, pays them $300/month 'rent', relies on them to buy groceries and spends all her money on going out to eat and drink, then goes on vacations and trips to vegas every few months then she's broke.
needless to say I left her immature ass.
must be nice to be content with being somebody elses employee until you're 65yrs old.
if that was the life I wanted, I'd move to France and be a socialist.
such a life is not worth living
might as well get a rope, find a tree and end it
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such a life is not worth living
might as well get a rope, find a tree and end it
what, shortage of bullets in 'cuba' 8)
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I know.. I dated a girl who works at Costco. she's about 10yrs older than me and has been working there for about 10years, and will probably never leave.
she lives at home in her parents house, pays them $300/month 'rent', relies on them to buy groceries and spends all her money on going out to eat and drink, then goes on vacations and trips to vegas every few months then she's broke.
needless to say I left her immature ass.
must be nice to be content with being somebody elses employee until you're 65yrs old.
if that was the life I wanted, I'd move to France and be a socialist.
That is odd. You can easily live on your own with a Costco salary. I mean, you will probably live with a roommate or 2, but better than living at home.
Then again, if her sole mission in life is to party, then living at home makes sense, since she saves a lot of money.
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I know.. I dated a girl who works at Costco. she's about 10yrs older than me and has been working there for about 10years, and will probably never leave.
she lives at home in her parents house, pays them $300/month 'rent', relies on them to buy groceries and spends all her money on going out to eat and drink, then goes on vacations and trips to vegas every few months then she's broke.
needless to say I left her immature ass.
must be nice to be content with being somebody elses employee until you're 65yrs old.
if that was the life I wanted, I'd move to France and be a socialist.
She will probably inherit her parents house and live comfortably for the rest of her life.
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I run a few businesses... one of which is a personal trainer & nutritionist (cpt/csn).. the others I don't go into.
I'm not a baller. I like nice things and recognize the value, or lack of value in things. (would you rather pay $800 for a gold invictia? or $800 for a stainless steel Oris?-type of stuff)
you just need to figure out what's important and what's not, and evaluate your priorties... not "you", but people in general.
most people think in terms of 'us and them'... what seperates 'you' from the 'rich' people? not a whole lot, once you figure it out. most people are afraid to take risks... they never sit down and figure out HOW they could afford the car/house/food/watch/tv/ect... they always wanted, instead they sit and daydream about how nice it'd be if they won the lottery.
get an idea and follow it through to the end. if it works, great, do it again... if it doesn't work, great, try something else.
there's a watch that has min/hour hands that say "remember, you will die"... so why do people wait and wait and wait to do what they could be doing today to live how they want to live? i'll never understand it.
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The work ants of the society are doing the work for rich and poor.
Taxes paid by work ants beeing used to pay the poor. The poor hate working, they like drifting around doing nothing and feel free.
The elite, the corporate guys and the politician hate traditional work they feel above work hours and morals. Sitting by the the desk for 8 hours straight they cant do it. They like moving around staying in 5 star hotels, chatting to people, going to meetings, "inspecting" franchises and divisions eating free fancy lunches. They dont think of it as work, cause it aint either. They love the high life, going charity dinners.
Work ants are the glue of society. They love to work. And have a strong working moral. They dont move around much, they travel the same route to work each day, shop at the same supermarket and eat at the same restaurant. It might not be exciting and joyful, but it is a low risk, comfortable life.
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The work ants of the society are doing the work for rich and poor.
Taxes paid by work ants beeing used to pay the poor. The poor hate working, they like drifting around doing nothing and feel free.
The elite, the corporate guys and the politician hate traditional work they feel above work hours and morals. Sitting by the the desk for 8 hours straight they cant do it. They like moving around staying in 5 star hotels, chatting to people, going to meetings, "inspecting" franchises and divisions eating free fancy lunches. They dont think of it as work, cause it aint either. They love the high life, going charity dinners.
Work ants are the glue of society. They love to work. And have a strong working moral. They dont move around much, they travel the same route to work each day, shop at the same supermarket and eat at the same restaurant. It might not be exciting and joyful, but it is a low risk, comfortable life.
I'm really glad they exist. And equally glad I'm not no longer one of them. Because fuck working 40 hours per week. Hell, I'm on another new job, learning the ropes, and in bad weeks I sometimes hit close to 40 hours now. It pisses me off, I find 24-28 hours comfortable.
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What do you do to work that little?
I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed. There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops. He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).
He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy. My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise.
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I'm really glad they exist. And equally glad I'm not no longer one of them. Because fuck working 40 hours per week. Hell, I'm on another new job, learning the ropes, and in bad weeks I sometimes hit close to 40 hours now. It pisses me off, I find 24-28 hours comfortable.
What do you do now for work?
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What do you do to work that little?
I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed. There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops. He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).
He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy. My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise.
A fishing boat that goes fast enough to pull a dinghy?
Are you sure it isnt a speed boat?
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It looked like a fishing boat to me, I'll have to dig out a picture, it was a very small boat, could have been a tall speed boat, kinda missing the message though.
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It looked like a fishing boat to me, I'll have to dig out a picture, it was a very small boat, could have been a tall speed boat, kinda missing the message though.
Im a stickler for detail.
A fishing boat tends to dawdle along, not fast enough to really exite the average tourist on an inflatable.
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What do you do to work that little?
Understand things, i.e. Quality Assurance. It's something I happen to be good at. Not by study, just a natural aptitude for simplifying workflows and procedures, and then selling people on the idea of doing something new. In fact I'd say the second part is harder, as you are working against ingrained procedures and a 'but we've always done it like this!'-mentality.
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My philosophy is always to work smarter, not harder. Which is why I choose not to pick up too many projects at once. I do a few very well, and within the deadline. My predecessor did dozens simultaneously, worked her ass off every long day, had an incredible depth of knowledge on virtually anything within the company -- and never finished anything. Guess which approach is more appreciated by the people that pay the salaries...
I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed. There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops. He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).
He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy. My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise.
Definitely. I have recently seriously considered becoming a forester. I love the outdoors, I spend a lot of free time there anyway. So if I could get paid enough (not a lot, just enough) then I'd seriously consider it. The trappings of wealth really hold no attraction for me. Funny thing: almost everyone, including in this topic, talks about bigger houses like it is a logical result of earning more. But my current house is smaller than my first apartment, and my next house will most likely be smaller still. I can only be in one place at any given moment, so why buy a house where I need GPS to find the bathroom? Give me one practical and nice combined living room/kitchen over a palace any day.
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Not saying hard work will kill anyone. Yes, I worked 60 hours per week packing boxes, loading and unloading trailers, moving washing machines and fridges, those jobs. But when you have other skills besides 'being strong', why not use them effectively? Now I make three times what I did then, and in half the hours.
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whole lotta socialists here.
I'm not surprised.
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why buy a house where I need GPS to find the bathroom? Give me one practical and nice combined living room/kitchen over a palace any day.
Pretty much. I rent a 4 bed 2 bath which would be empty if not for a rack in one room and a multi in another. Meanwhile the 450sqf garage is jam packed to the ceiling with tools and materials.
Next one will be something like 800sqf of living space and 4000+sqf of workshop. What do you do in living space besides eat, sleep, and put your feet up?
I always figured big houses are for people with children who basically want to escape from their children.
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This is why I find those tiny houses fascinating.
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whole lotta socialists here.
I'm not surprised.
Rule no 1: If you dont understand or cant argue, play socialist card.
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Rule no 1: If you dont understand or cant argue, play socialist card.
Are you saying that someone who deals drugs because he cannot get a real job maybe isn't one to comment?
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Pretty much. I rent a 4 bed 2 bath which would be empty if not for a rack in one room and a multi in another. Meanwhile the 450sqf garage is jam packed to the ceiling with tools and materials.
Next one will be something like 800sqf of living space and 4000+sqf of workshop. What do you do in living space besides eat, sleep, and put your feet up?
I always figured big houses are for people with children who basically want to escape from their children.
Something like that, yes. Only one bedroom would suffice for me, the wife and I are not having kids anyway. But a big-ass barn is certainly in the plans. I train mostly with dumbbells now anyway, but the wife is a machine lifter. :-X ;D
Also, part of the barn would be an actual stable for a few cows. Going to raise (and eat!) Dexters.
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This is why I find those tiny houses fascinating.
Me too! I spend a lot -- too much -- time in hotels. So I make it a point to try as many different ones as possible. I really like the smaller hotel rooms that border on Japanese capsule hotels. The Citizen M at Amsterdam Airport is really nice. The service is so-so, but the room is cute. When in Japan I actually have never stayed in a real capsule hotel. ::) Will fix that next time -- if I can get my colleagues to join me. ;D
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Definitely. I have recently seriously considered becoming a forester. I love the outdoors, I spend a lot of free time there anyway. So if I could get paid enough (not a lot, just enough) then I'd seriously consider it. The trappings of wealth really hold no attraction for me. Funny thing: almost everyone, including in this topic, talks about bigger houses like it is a logical result of earning more. But my current house is smaller than my first apartment, and my next house will most likely be smaller still. I can only be in one place at any given moment, so why buy a house where I need GPS to find the bathroom? Give me one practical and nice combined living room/kitchen over a palace any day.
I think the home really depends on the situation. When my wife and I moved in together, her parents bought a new home and had a really nice basement suite so we lived there and helped with the mortgage. If it was just her and I, I would love to live in a small and cozy place that size again. Maybe a bigger kitchen because we enjoy cooking so much, but it doesn't have to be too large. But now that we have a kid as well as students, I want a huge home. One with rooms and crannies that I never go in for years and can go explore in. The plan is to buy a humongous house next time around, and then when the kids move out we'll probably get something super tiny to retire in. I'd love to have a mansion with so many rooms and shit that you could go exploring in it.
I like having a home too because it gives me something to do. Even a brand new home, I'm walking around the place and seeing small tasks to do on the weekend. It's fun and you learn to become handy. But when I'm older, I'm sure the novelty will wear off and I'll just want a quiet, quaint place to relax with a nice porch and backyard. As long as the property is big, the home doesn't have to be. Somewhere with enough space to stretch but not so much that you need to spend half the time maintaining and stuff. Landscaping is relaxing so I hope to get a place really far on the edge of town where everyone can fuck off and leave us alone. I have lots of family that work in construction so my resting home will probably be something I build with my own hands. That's the plan at least. Buy a plot of land and build something where I won't have to worry about cheap contractors cutting corners on. 8)
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I think the home really depends on the situation. When my wife and I moved in together, her parents bought a new home and had a really nice basement suite so we lived there and helped with the mortgage. If it was just her and I, I would love to live in a small and cozy place that size again. Maybe a bigger kitchen because we enjoy cooking so much, but it doesn't have to be too large. But now that we have a kid as well as students, I want a huge home. One with rooms and crannies that I never go in for years and can go explore in. The plan is to buy a humongous house next time around, and then when the kids move out we'll probably get something super tiny to retire in. I'd love to have a mansion with so many rooms and shit that you could go exploring in it.
I like having a home too because it gives me something to do. Even a brand new home, I'm walking around the place and seeing small tasks to do on the weekend. It's fun and you learn to become handy. But when I'm older, I'm sure the novelty will wear off and I'll just want a quiet, quaint place to relax with a nice porch and backyard. As long as the property is big, the home doesn't have to be. Somewhere with enough space to stretch but not so much that you need to spend half the time maintaining and stuff. Landscaping is relaxing so I hope to get a place really far on the edge of town where everyone can fuck off and leave us alone. I have lots of family that work in construction so my resting home will probably be something I build with my own hands. That's the plan at least. Buy a plot of land and build something where I won't have to worry about cheap contractors cutting corners on. 8)
Apart from having a huge mansion temporarily I agree with this 100%. That is what I'm workin towards: building our home with my own hands. I'll let a contractor pour the foundation, but after that it's all me. Maybe it will end up a bit out of kilter, but everything will be where I want it to be. And yes, a large piece of property surrounding it. Small plot of vegetables, an orchard, somewhere for the cows to graze, and somewhere for me to hunt ducks and geese.
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Rule no 1: If you dont understand or cant argue, play socialist card.
oh I understand you're lazy and want to justify your situation.
"detest what you cannot have" is an easy cop-out.
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Guys huge = must be on gear
Guys rich = must have (stolen, inherited, married insert one) the money
Guys wife is gorgeous = guy must be rich (see previous)
LOL
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No, not the case at all. Get a wife who is similarly driven, and make money. Then, invest this money, and make more money. I could not have what I have without me and my wife as a team. I know it sounds gay, but it really works for us. We do what we want in our spare time, and don't really have to think about anything before we buy it. We pretty much do hat we want. Before, when I was single, I didn't really have the same goals. It was going out, drinking, chasing pussy, and doing the occasional cocaine, lol. I know that might sound like fun, but I can honestly tell you, that having an end goal, with a partner, is something that is really cool. You just have to find that person who compliments you and drives you to be better.
Egg-xactly, marry well and marry once, but get a vasectomy before any "accidents." Best financial advice ever.
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Apart from having a huge mansion temporarily I agree with this 100%. That is what I'm workin towards: building our home with my own hands. I'll let a contractor pour the foundation, but after that it's all me. Maybe it will end up a bit out of kilter, but everything will be where I want it to be. And yes, a large piece of property surrounding it. Small plot of vegetables, an orchard, somewhere for the cows to graze, and somewhere for me to hunt ducks and geese.
I've got a huge yard that I need to do something with, but I have old growth and I'm not sure if I want to fall those trees or not. It's a struggle. Last summer though I flipped a few pallets upside down and filled them with herbs. I made a few small vegetable plots, but underestimated my rambunctious dogs and they kind of tore it up. But little veggie gardens are awesome. Even the little planters pots with tomatoes we had were incredibly rewarding to pick, clean off and toss into a salad.
That's part of the reason why I want a smaller home when I'm older. Smaller home is completely fine, just needs a large kitchen and very large property. I'll be planning on spending a lot of time in the yard and look forward to it. Looking forward to this summer too. My yard is my sanctuary, weather permitting. 8)
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What do you do to work that little?
I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed. There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops. He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).
He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy. My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise.
why dont you go then?
im sure you could afford a 3k boat to pull tourists around in.
i always hear people say 'oh i wish i could go live in the caribbean'. lol go then! but they dont. they stayed glued to an existence they dont want out of fear of the unknown.
you need to find peace in yourself before you can truly appreciate paradise. when you have this, paradise is where ever you choose to be, not a place you need to go.
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why dont you go then?
im sure you could afford a 3k boat to pull tourists around in.
i always hear people say 'oh i wish i could go live in the caribbean'. lol go then! but they dont. they stayed glued to an existence they dont want out of fear of the unknown.
you need to find peace in yourself before you can truly appreciate paradise. when you have this, paradise is where ever you choose to be, not a place you need to go.
Reason most people do it is because deep down its a fucking boring existence, who wants to get up every day towing a load of fuckwits around at the back of a boat?
Grass isnt always greener.
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Last summer though I flipped a few pallets upside down and filled them with herbs.
Make sure they're not treated wood. Most pallets would be, as well as having a long history of fumigation. They use all sorts of nasty shit in treating lumber. CCA, for ex, stands for copper/chromium/arsenate.
I'd just dig in whatever is required into the dirt, if anything, and go to town from seed or by transplant. If you need edging to keep grass out I'd go something masonry. The ever-popular 'sleepers' are also a bad idea imo. There's no knowing what they're leaching.
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Something like that, yes. Only one bedroom would suffice for me, the wife and I are not having kids anyway. But a big-ass barn is certainly in the plans. I train mostly with dumbbells now anyway, but the wife is a machine lifter. :-X ;D
Also, part of the barn would be an actual stable for a few cows. Going to raise (and eat!) Dexters.
Chickens is as far as my ambition goes. I don't think I could kill a cow. :-\ Unless it was an asshole cow or something.
Just putting this out there. Instead of beef cows you could do dairy cows for milk. But instead of cows you could raise lactating women. It's an untapped market.
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Make sure they're not treated wood. Most pallets would be, as well as having a long history of fumigation. They use all sorts of nasty shit in treating lumber. CCA, for ex, stands for copper/chromium/arsenate.
I'd just dig in whatever is required into the dirt, if anything, and go to town from seed or by transplant. If you need edging to keep grass out I'd go something masonry. The ever-popular 'sleepers' are also a bad idea imo. There's no knowing what they're leaching.
lol no worries, I know that. I think most boners who are dumb enough to use treated wood for edible planters would sooner buy something from Home Depot. But it was really quick and simple and actually looked pretty esthetic in the end. My in-laws have shitloads of mints, basils and cilantro so I would make tons and tons of salad rolls. They've also got lots of exotic Chinese herbs that you can't find in stores so I always take cuttings for things like that too.
Feels good to go in the backyard, snip a few buckets of herbs, rinse 'em and make an awesome meal.
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lol no worries, I know that. I think most boners who are dumb enough to use treated wood for edible planters would sooner buy something from Home Depot. But it was really quick and simple and actually looked pretty esthetic in the end. My in-laws have shitloads of mints, basils and cilantro so I would make tons and tons of salad rolls. They've also got lots of exotic Chinese herbs that you can't find in stores so I always take cuttings for things like that too.
Feels good to go in the backyard, snip a few buckets of herbs, rinse 'em and make an awesome meal.
Yeah, I found herbs way easier than veggies and gave a much better return by way of quality and cost over shop bought, not to mention immediate availability, which rocks.
Except for cilantro. I've tried for several seasons to 'walk' the seed by having like 8 or 10 patches on the go because it gets so damn hot here. Still end up buying the stuff sometimes.
None of those benefits applied to basic veggies so I more or less gave them up except for artichokes, which I really like. Still keen to try my hand at berries (none wild here) and fruits.
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Yeah, I found herbs way easier than veggies and gave a much better return by way of quality and cost over shop bought, not to mention immediate availability, which rocks.
Except for cilantro. I've tried for several seasons to 'walk' the seed by having like 8 or 10 patches on the go because it gets so damn hot here. Still end up buying the stuff sometimes.
None of those benefits applied to basic veggies so I more or less gave them up except for artichokes, which I really like. Still keen to try my hand at berries (none wild here) and fruits.
I came to the same conclusion. Growing veggies was a novelty that wore off super quickly. We had like 20 different types of tomato plants which did all right though. We met tons of generous gardeners that were eager to help us and gave us cuttings and small plants. I really liked the cherry tomatoes, but everything else could pretty much fuck off. It was the herbs that were the best.
Any time I was in the backyard, I'd grab a handful of mint and rub it in my hands to release the scent. Holy fuck, does it ever smell nice. I can't wait until the weather is nicer and I can clean off the BBQ. I miss sitting on the deck listening to the BBQ sizzling, cold beer in hand and a shitload of delicious herbs filling the air with aroma. That was the best way to get me to eat my veggies - toss in a fuckton of random herbs with a bunch of garden veggies. Not a huge veggie fan, but doing this let me kill bucket loads of veggies. I was shitting like a champ with all that fiber. 8)
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Become self employed if possible. "Work" should be a passion.
Just not possible for majority. Work is something you don't mind doing each day. Work being a pasion happens for very few....if you got it then great.
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Why do people spend so much time at work.
Why not spend less on house, car and stupid stuff, and work less ?
That extra time could be spent with friends, family, excercising, making healthy meals, engaging in hobbies and interests, talking a walk, trekking and camping, fishing, hunting, travel. I mean, just living your life...
Are we brainwashed by the system from early age. Having to spend most of the day in school and then do homework. Like that we should not develop time comsuming interests that could conflict future working "career".
The media and commercials brainwash us into this comsumer spending trap. But I am starting to wonder if it really makes us happy.
I enjoy working. I do all I can to be as efficient as possible in my work. Sometimes there are long days, but I work as smart as I can to prevent as many long days as possible.
A man and woman in my local community just came off a 2-year world tour vacation. Sounds awesome to those of us working. They came back from vacation and started to plug back into reality....within a week she committed suicide because she wanted the fantasy to last forever and knew her 2-year vacation was over (most likely permanently).
People have to work the majority of their lives....that's how it is. Although, I do agree that living with less and spending less is a better strategy. Working for the next material possession is dumb.
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I enjoy working. I do all I can to be as efficient as possible in my work. Sometimes there are long days, but I work as smart as I can to prevent as many long days as possible.
A man and woman in my local community just came off a 2-year world tour vacation. Sounds awesome to those of us working. They came back from vacation and started to plug back into reality....within a week she committed suicide because she wanted the fantasy to last forever and knew her 2-year vacation was over (most likely permanently).
People have to work the majority of their lives....that's how it is. Although, I do agree that living with less and spending less is a better strategy. Working for the next material possession is dumb.
damn what a fucked up story
what kinda work u do fatty?
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"Atlas Shrugged" should be required reading for you lazy fucking morons.
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It's true. If you can endure that book you can take anything.
'gah! gah! gah!'
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Calogero should have listened to Deniro.
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Calogero should have listened to Deniro.
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/01/01/1226792/851384-sopranos-actor-parole-lillo-brancato-jr.jpg)
His kid version co-star is just as big of a fuck up
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Chickens is as far as my ambition goes. I don't think I could kill a cow. :-\ Unless it was an asshole cow or something.
Just putting this out there. Instead of beef cows you could do dairy cows for milk. But instead of cows you could raise lactating women. It's an untapped market.
I honestly don't know yet if I could kill a cow yet. But it will be an interesting experiment. I'll probably first have a butcher teach me. It probably depends on the size of the herd as well. If you have two, then you could develop a bond. If you have 50, then less so. Or I could fuck one, and the one who didn't give me a reacharound would get killed.
Lactating women? People would accuse me of getting high off my own supply. ;D
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It's possible not to work your ass off, but you have to rent, be single with no kids, or at least a very easy girlfriend who doesn't leech off you.The second you get a wife, buy a home,and/or kids then you have things you need to support week after week no matter what.As a single guy who works from home online, then you could easily live without working much, and from anywhere in the world.
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"Atlas Shrugged" should be required reading for you lazy fucking morons.
What, fantasy written by someone who accepted handouts? Do tell why.
Also, I'm guessing most people in this topic who want to work less (including me) have actually already achieved something -- and found that it really doesn't make the choir immortal sing a song of glory. You work hard/smart. Then you get promoted. Then you still work hard/smart. Then you get promoted again. Etc. The only things growing are your house and your ulcer.
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Since there is not real point of living that we are able to understand, there is no point of working.
It is mapped out in the DNA to make our species successful; we need to work. Work is a hierarchical construction that ends with death.
Humans are designed to do things collectively like ants, wether this is about money, survival, sex or just a cult - humans in general seeks to be a part of a whole.
Despite this they daily convince themselves they are unique and important and will be appreciated someday. This is pure mind mastrubation.
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You Europeans are lucky with your national healthcare. Some of us Americans keep our jobs just to maintain healthcare. :-\
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Since there is not real point of living that we are able to understand, there is no point of working.
It is mapped out in the DNA to make our species successful; we need to work. Work is a hierarchical construction that ends with death.
Humans are designed to do things collectively like ants, wether this is about money, survival, sex or just a cult - humans in general seeks to be a part of a whole.
Despite this they daily convince themselves they are unique and important and will be appreciated someday. This is pure mind mastrubation.'
Less than 3% of the DNA is mapped, the other 97-98% is classified as "junk". This way you don't know who or what the fuck you are so you can continue working for the system.
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You Europeans are lucky with your national healthcare. Some of us Americans keep our jobs just to maintain healthcare. :-\
We pay too, just differently. From the left pocket or right pocket, we all lose the money somehow. Yes, my US team complains about paying $6-900 per month for healthcare. Then again my Dutch and German teams complain about paying 40-50% income tax.
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Lactating women?
I was in a peculiar mood when I wrote that.
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I am retired. Working is something I did in the past to put a roof over my family's heads and food on the table. Work never defined my life. With respect to this, I was luckier than most poor suckers. These days, I volunteer my time just for the things I enjoy.
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What, fantasy written by someone who accepted handouts? Do tell why.
Also, I'm guessing most people in this topic who want to work less (including me) have actually already achieved something -- and found that it really doesn't make the choir immortal sing a song of glory. You work hard/smart. Then you get promoted. Then you still work hard/smart. Then you get promoted again. Etc. The only things growing are your house and your ulcer.
lol @ "promoted".
you life revolves around getting "promoted" and working for somebody else. lol
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Rubbish my bosses make obscene money and drive luxury cars, are poorly educated and thick as shit.
No one, if there were mountains I'd be there now. A trip to the alps might change my whole life.
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I work because I LOVE to work....create build achieve.
I like being the ant, and despise the grasshoppers!!! >:(
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A lot of the best jobs are filled in the informal job market. A friend or family member hooks them up, they brown nose their way to the top, etc. Rarely are people rewarded for working hard, applying for job postings and all that rat race BS. That's why people need to look out for themselves, diversify their investments and manage their finances as best they can.
There's a lot of money out there. You just need to know where to look. Working your ass off for years in hopes of a meager salary increase or promotion is not a fruitful endeavor. It's a bit of a shame, but hard work is rarely the path to success. People use these guys as stepping stones to further their careers and get by on handshakes, networking and clawing their way to success. That's why I don't put too much stock into one line of work and wait for a glorious, life changing promotion at my day job. It's just one means to an end.
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great one...
The American said slowly, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos…”
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What, fantasy written by someone who accepted handouts? Do tell why.
Also, I'm guessing most people in this topic who want to work less (including me) have actually already achieved something -- and found that it really doesn't make the choir immortal sing a song of glory. You work hard/smart. Then you get promoted. Then you still work hard/smart. Then you get promoted again. Etc. The only things growing are your house and your ulcer.
if your idea of 'achievement' is getting a promotion, the only thing you've 'achieved' is not getting fired, and you're no different than somebody working at mcdonalds.
you're still working for somebody else and you're still somebody else's' bitch.
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if your idea of 'achievement' is getting a promotion, the only thing you've 'achieved' is not getting fired, and you're no different than somebody working at mcdonalds.
you're still working for somebody else and you're still somebody else's' bitch.
First of all, maybe an unemployable criminal like yourself would not know, but in the real world promotions come with increases in salary, responsibility, and job opportunities. So yes, I have succeeded in not being fired. While simultaneously succeeding in seriously increasing my income, working as few hours (<30) as possible, and generating an insane amount of international connections that now ask/beg me to work for them. If that is what it is like at McDonalds, then I'm looking forward to meeting all those former burger flippers when they become CEO instead of me.
On a side note: Those burger flippers get an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. The concept of honesty might elude a small-time crook and habitual liar (how are those +25% investments doing again?), but actual persons respect those who respect the law.
Second, we are all working for someone else. If it is not a direct superior, then it is one's family. Hell, you are working hard every day to keep your parole officer unaware of your repeat offending. See? You too are working to please someone else! Difference is that real people don't get thrown back in prison and butt-raped again when they piss off their boss.
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A lot of the best jobs are filled in the informal job market. A friend or family member hooks them up, they brown nose their way to the top, etc. Rarely are people rewarded for working hard, applying for job postings and all that rat race BS. That's why people need to look out for themselves, diversify their investments and manage their finances as best they can.
There's a lot of money out there. You just need to know where to look. Working your ass off for years in hopes of a meager salary increase or promotion is not a fruitful endeavor. It's a bit of a shame, but hard work is rarely the path to success. People use these guys as stepping stones to further their careers and get by on handshakes, networking and clawing their way to success. That's why I don't put too much stock into one line of work and wait for a glorious, life changing promotion at my day job. It's just one means to an end.
Working hard is for ants.
"If you work hard you can be whatever you want"
"I would never be *whatever* without all the sacrifice and hard work"
BS propaganda fed to the ants. People talk their way to the top, not by hard work.
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some people make obscene salaries and drive brand new luxury cars for free
but they are rare and heavily educated
So why U a not educated ;D,
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a lot of true story i think^^^
depressing somewhat
a lot of 'depressions' in yours vocabulary ;D
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Working hard is for ants.
"If you work hard you can be whatever you want"
"I would never be *whatever* without all the sacrifice and hard work"
BS propaganda fed to the ants. People talk their way to the top, not by hard work.
eh... some people succeed through hard work, some people succeed through talking. Different people have different tricks to succeed in life.
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First of all, maybe an unemployable criminal like yourself would not know, but in the real world promotions come with increases in salary, responsibility, and job opportunities. So yes, I have succeeded in not being fired. While simultaneously succeeding in seriously increasing my income, working as few hours (<30) as possible, and generating an insane amount of international connections that now ask/beg me to work for them. If that is what it is like at McDonalds, then I'm looking forward to meeting all those former burger flippers when they become CEO instead of me.
On a side note: Those burger flippers get an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. The concept of honesty might elude a small-time crook and habitual liar (how are those +25% investments doing again?), but actual persons respect those who respect the law.
Second, we are all working for someone else. If it is not a direct superior, then it is one's family. Hell, you are working hard every day to keep your parole officer unaware of your repeat offending. See? You too are working to please someone else! Difference is that real people don't get thrown back in prison and butt-raped again when they piss off their boss.
so now I'm a habitual liar? lol.. listen you lazy little fagget, if you can't make $25k on $100k, you have no business day trading.
#2. what parole officer? lol.. keep thinking you know something about me.
#3.. 'unemployable criminal'. lol.. see #2.. keep thinking you know something about me.
"real people don't get thrown back in prison.. blah blah blah.. butt raped in prison.. blah blah blah..
you watch too many movies.. must be with all that "free time" you have.
the bottom line is this: you're lazy, and incompetent... and you justify your lack of the "trapping of success" by saying you don't "want them". truch is, chump, you couldn't attain the "trappings of success" if you worked your ass off for 100years because you lack all the necessary traits.
the highest level of "success" you can ever hope to "achieve" is getting promoted. lol.
typical socialist liberal. nothing more.
lol @ the "insane number of international connections begging you to work for them".
is that fucking delusions of grandeur speaking? or is that just the lie you tell yourself, expecting us to believe it as well?
good luck with your "mid-level management" JOB at whatever dime-a-dozen distribution company you work for. maybe you can get your kids a JOB at the same company while they pay their own way through school. (since that JOB of yours sure as hell won't pay for tuition)
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so now I'm a habitual liar? lol.. listen you lazy little fagget, if you can't make $25k on $100k, you have no business day trading.
Don't make me post your quotes recanting those bullshit claims you were already called out on.
#2. what parole officer? lol.. keep thinking you know something about me.
#3.. 'unemployable criminal'. lol.. see #2.. keep thinking you know something about me.
"real people don't get thrown back in prison.. blah blah blah.. butt raped in prison.. blah blah blah..
you watch too many movies.. must be with all that "free time" you have.
The only thing true in this is that I indeed have a lot of free time. And getting paid nicely too. It's great!
the bottom line is this: you're lazy, and incompetent...
So I'm lazy and incompetent, yet some evil corporation chooses to pay me very well? Sounds like a good deal to me.
and you justify your lack of the "trapping of success" by saying you don't "want them". truch is, chump, you couldn't attain the "trappings of success" if you worked your ass off for 100years because you lack all the necessary traits.
Except that I had them years ago already, and divested myself of them. Sure, having a flashy car and large apartment was important to me years ago. But then I grew up. I suggest doing the same thing.
And yes, even a modicum of reading, in this very topic and many others, would have told you that.
the highest level of "success" you can ever hope to "achieve" is getting promoted. lol.
No, it's being truly happy. That goal was also reached a few years ago. Have been 'cruising' at happiness since then, to use your roid addict vernacular.
lol @ the "insane number of international connections begging you to work for them".
is that fucking delusions of grandeur speaking? or is that just the lie you tell yourself, expecting us to believe it as well?
We are all delusional about ourselves. Fortunately I haven't yet crossed into "better investor than Buffet, lethal prison cage fighter, taking pro AAS dosages to look like a blocky swimmer" levels of delusion.
good luck with your "mid-level management" JOB at whatever dime-a-dozen distribution company you work for. maybe you can get your kids a JOB at the same company while they pay their own way through school. (since that JOB of yours sure as hell won't pay for tuition)
First of: no kids. Not a worthwile investment.
Interesting to refer to my work as being with a distribution company. In a very broad sense it's even true, so made me laugh. ;D
And even if it were at some distribution company, so what? All you do is mix oil and powder, and distribute underdosed roids. So looks like you are more into distribution than I am. Were you working for real, I would be the one telling you you weren't doing it correctly. My guess is that is why you avoid real work and colleagues: nobody can see your fuckups. And I would. :D
And lastly, and again, what is your problems with people having a JOB? Apparently you are against capitalism, where resources are allocated based on supply and demand. My resource is being fucking great at QA, so I can demand a good salary. Why does the thought of having a boss scare you so much? The nagging doubt that your rosy view of yourself isn't shared by anyone else? See, that's the difference between you and me: I LIKE being compared to others, because it makes me look good. :)
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if your idea of 'achievement' is getting a promotion, the only thing you've 'achieved' is not getting fired, and you're no different than somebody working at mcdonalds.
you're still working for somebody else and you're still somebody else's' bitch.
Society would not work if everyone was a boss. Nothing would ever get done.
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Working hard is for ants.
"If you work hard you can be whatever you want"
"I would never be *whatever* without all the sacrifice and hard work"
BS propaganda fed to the ants. People talk their way to the top, not by hard work.
quite true
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Live to work or work to live? I've done both. When I was young I lived to work. Worked 80 hours a week at times. Made investments, had nice things. One day my co-worker and good friend had a heart attack and died at 38. All his did was work to get that early retirement in his McMansion. Now he is retired in the sky and his family is struggling. He didn't have a big life insurance policy. Only 300k.
After that I sat down and asked myself do I need all this stuff? What do I really need? I downsized the residence, stopped eating out as much, spent way more time with the family and friends. Tried to experience different things, and meet interesting people. I am happy. There is a roof over my head and good food on the table.
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Live to work or work to live? I've done both. When I was young I lived to work. Worked 80 hours a week at times. Made investments, had nice things. One day my co-worker and good friend had a heart attack and died at 38. All his did was work to get that early retirement in his McMansion. Now he is retired in the sky and his family is struggling. He didn't have a big life insurance policy. Only 300k.
After that I sat down and asked myself do I need all this stuff? What do I really need? I downsized the residence, stopped eating out as much, spent way more time with the family and friends. Tried to experience different things, and meet interesting people. I am happy. There is a roof over my head and good food on the table.
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Worked from age 11 until age 70. I made other men very wealthy and saved the crumbs delt me very wisely. I was able to get the boss to furnish me the executive medical plan which served me well while my wife battled cancer for years. I retired the day after she died. Once I had 3 jobs and late wife had 2. We pooled our money and bought a little house for $38,000. Sold it 2 years ago for $650,000. That plus a 401K, SSI income,I moved to another state and now married to an 18 years younger wife. have two homes, one in the desert and one in the mountains plus property in the forest. Life is amazing.
Not bragging but making the point…work HARD and LONG. Wisely save/invest your money and with good health you will live the American dream. I never inherited one penny from family or friends. Be smart and you can have fun while working hard. I figured out how to travel the world, meet amazing people, dine with a President, ski all over North America, race a Cobra on the track for several years, tour on my chopper, win some Bodybuilding shows, publish, raise amazing very successful children, you get the picture…WORK HARD and LONG.
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Don't make me post your quotes recanting those bullshit claims you were already called out on.
The only thing true in this is that I indeed have a lot of free time. And getting paid nicely too. It's great!
So I'm lazy and incompetent, yet some evil corporation chooses to pay me very well? Sounds like a good deal to me.
Except that I had them years ago already, and divested myself of them. Sure, having a flashy car and large apartment was important to me years ago. But then I grew up. I suggest doing the same thing.
And yes, even a modicum of reading, in this very topic and many others, would have told you that.
No, it's being truly happy. That goal was also reached a few years ago. Have been 'cruising' at happiness since then, to use your roid addict vernacular.
We are all delusional about ourselves. Fortunately I haven't yet crossed into "better investor than Buffet, lethal prison cage fighter, taking pro AAS dosages to look like a blocky swimmer" levels of delusion.
First of: no kids. Not a worthwile investment.
Interesting to refer to my work as being with a distribution company. In a very broad sense it's even true, so made me laugh. ;D
And even if it were at some distribution company, so what? All you do is mix oil and powder, and distribute underdosed roids. So looks like you are more into distribution than I am. Were you working for real, I would be the one telling you you weren't doing it correctly. My guess is that is why you avoid real work and colleagues: nobody can see your fuckups. And I would. :D
And lastly, and again, what is your problems with people having a JOB? Apparently you are against capitalism, where resources are allocated based on supply and demand. My resource is being fucking great at QA, so I can demand a good salary. Why does the thought of having a boss scare you so much? The nagging doubt that your rosy view of yourself isn't shared by anyone else? See, that's the difference between you and me: I LIKE being compared to others, because it makes me look good. :)
please do post my posts.. you fucking lazy pussy.
... and here we also see the classic pussy ass keyboard smartass embellishing other's posts to try to prove their own weak point.. instead of using what I've actually said, you turn it into "a better investor than warren buffet and a deadly lethal prison fighter"
typical getbig pussy move on your part..
bottom line is you're a fucking lazy individual. it's a good thing you don't have kids, as they'd probably grow up socialists and democrats.
your best bet is to move to france with the rest of the worlds lazy sissys.
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Don't make me post your quotes recanting those bullshit claims you were already called out on.
The only thing true in this is that I indeed have a lot of free time. And getting paid nicely too. It's great!
So I'm lazy and incompetent, yet some evil corporation chooses to pay me very well? Sounds like a good deal to me.
Except that I had them years ago already, and divested myself of them. Sure, having a flashy car and large apartment was important to me years ago. But then I grew up. I suggest doing the same thing.
And yes, even a modicum of reading, in this very topic and many others, would have told you that.
No, it's being truly happy. That goal was also reached a few years ago. Have been 'cruising' at happiness since then, to use your roid addict vernacular.
We are all delusional about ourselves. Fortunately I haven't yet crossed into "better investor than Buffet, lethal prison cage fighter, taking pro AAS dosages to look like a blocky swimmer" levels of delusion.
First of: no kids. Not a worthwile investment.
Interesting to refer to my work as being with a distribution company. In a very broad sense it's even true, so made me laugh. ;D
And even if it were at some distribution company, so what? All you do is mix oil and powder, and distribute underdosed roids. So looks like you are more into distribution than I am. Were you working for real, I would be the one telling you you weren't doing it correctly. My guess is that is why you avoid real work and colleagues: nobody can see your fuckups. And I would. :D
And lastly, and again, what is your problems with people having a JOB? Apparently you are against capitalism, where resources are allocated based on supply and demand. My resource is being fucking great at QA, so I can demand a good salary. Why does the thought of having a boss scare you so much? The nagging doubt that your rosy view of yourself isn't shared by anyone else? See, that's the difference between you and me: I LIKE being compared to others, because it makes me look good. :)
and I didn't even catch this..
listen you little dicksucking fa ggot... you want to call me a scammer? that I underdose my products? we can meet up and you can say it to my face you fucking coward. you want to fuck with my income and call my products bogus? you don't know me, bitch.. find me ONE MOTHERFUCKING PERSON who says ANYTHING of mine is underdosed.. you fucking bitch. fuck you and fuck your mother... your father is already fucked for raising such a little bitch like yourself.
send me a PM, i'll meet you halfway, pussy.
fucking call my products underdosed... lol.
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and I didn't even catch this..
listen you little dicksucking fa ggot... you want to call me a scammer? that I underdose my products? we can meet up and you can say it to my face you fucking coward. you want to fuck with my income and call my products bogus? you don't know me, bitch.. find me ONE MOTHERFUCKING PERSON who says ANYTHING of mine is underdosed.. you fucking bitch. fuck you and fuck your mother... your father is already fucked for raising such a little bitch like yourself.
send me a PM, i'll meet you halfway, pussy.
fucking call my products underdosed... lol.
lay off the tren bro.
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and I didn't even catch this..
listen you little dicksucking fa ggot... you want to call me a scammer? that I underdose my products? we can meet up and you can say it to my face you fucking coward. you want to fuck with my income and call my products bogus? you don't know me, bitch.. find me ONE MOTHERFUCKING PERSON who says ANYTHING of mine is underdosed.. you fucking bitch. fuck you and fuck your mother... your father is already fucked for raising such a little bitch like yourself.
send me a PM, i'll meet you halfway, pussy.
fucking call my products underdosed... lol.
That's the rumor that's been going around bro.
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That's the rumor that's been going around bro.
rumor between who?
who says that?
name one person that's used anything of mine here.
fucking gossiping little bitch
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Hard work ::)
Intelligence ::)
Nowadays it's all about who you know.
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Hard work ::)
Intelligence ::)
Nowadays it's all about who you know.
hard work = building a network and positioning yourself for success and making good choices for the future.
intelligence = figuring out what 'hard work' is.
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rumor between who?
who says that?
name one person that's used anything of mine here.
fucking gossiping little bitch
I dont even have a clue what product line is yours.lol.
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I dont even have a clue what product line is yours.lol.
exactly.
I'm private, and the other two bitches here just spreading rumors like little school girls.
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I live the dream life. I run my own business that I absolutely love, make my own hours, and have all the time in the world to watch my daughter grow and be happy.
What is better than this?
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I live the dream life. I run my own business that I absolutely love, make my own hours, and have all the time in the world to watch my daughter grow and be happy.
What is better than this?
heroin - heroin is better than this
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heroin - heroin is better than this
Lol.
I wish. If that was the case I would have been the happiest man on the planet, not the most miserable.
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heroin - heroin is better than this
:D