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Title: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: DanielPaul on August 07, 2015, 10:00:08 AM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 10:01:48 AM
There's no one man that's going to save this country.  If it were to ever be saved, it would take a grass roots effort of most people checking themselves and doing what's right.  That said, we know that will never happen. I don't like his stance on vaccinations. Other than that I like him.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 10:03:13 AM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?

Our past presidents have not lacked intelligence, they've lacked integrity.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: _aj_ on August 07, 2015, 10:04:42 AM
Our country needs a vast enema and Nibaru is coming with a huge tube.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Parker on August 07, 2015, 10:05:16 AM
Our past presidents have not lacked intelligence, they've lacked integrity.
they represent the people who elect them...
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: doison on August 07, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?

A little too much jeebus in his political ideals
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 10:08:24 AM
Our country needs a vast enema and Nibaru is coming with a huge tube.

Yes.....YES!...YES!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: _aj_ on August 07, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
A little too much jeebus in his political ideals

A little Jeebus is Ok. Too much Jeebus is Huckabee  :-X
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 07, 2015, 10:09:16 AM
A little too much jeebus in his political ideals

x2. If he left out all the religious bullshit, I might consider voting for him. But when he goes on about how the earth is 6,000 years old, well, he lost my vote. Keep your religion out of politics, which may impede on my life.

Ive only voted one time in my life. I may forgo voting this year. Exercising my right not to vote.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 10:10:00 AM
they represent the people who elect them...

No offense to most people but they are ignorant and are prone to falling for political tricks and maneuvering. They can't see the game within the game, within the game.  I used to be this way as well.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Parker on August 07, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
No offense to most people but they are ignorant and are prone to falling for political tricks and maneuvering. They can't see the game within the game, within the game.  I used to be this way as well.
that or they don't want to see it.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 10:16:12 AM
that or they don't want to see it.

YES...
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 07, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
because America can't tolerate 8 more years of racial hatred towards the president before a civil war erupts.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 07, 2015, 11:07:25 AM
because America can't tolerate 8 more years of racial hatred towards the president before a civil war erupts.

Do you truly believe that the people who are the base of the Republican party will vote in the Black guy?

Honestly?

I made this statement years ago... The Republican base will only vote in a rich white guy.

That's what they do.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 11:07:41 AM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?

Ben Carson was awesome last night.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 11:10:48 AM
A little too much jeebus in his political ideals

I disagree. It's one of the reasons why this country is screwed. You have a "president" with no zero integrity and definitely ZERO morals. He would just assume lop off a babies head than to kill a terrorist.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 07, 2015, 11:12:24 AM
Having to hear all candidates suck God's Cock and tug on Israel's balls the whole night was nauseating.  That blonde whore would ask them a question about American and they always replied that it's important to keep Israel safe.  What the fuck does that have to do with anything?  And Chris Christie bringing up 9/11 again. 

The two big candidates are Scott Walker and Marco Rubio -  Does anyone know why?  Because the Koch Brothers are dumping in a couple hundred million in Walker's campaign and Sheldon Aldelson is doing the same for Rubio.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 07, 2015, 11:13:24 AM
I disagree. It's one of the reasons why this country is screwed. You have a "president" with no zero integrity and definitely ZERO morals. He would just assume lop off a babies head than to kill a terrorist.

Even after all of the dead terrorists from drone strikes... The killing of Bin Laden... You're willing to say he would rather kill babies than terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 07, 2015, 11:14:45 AM
Ben Carson was awesome last night.

Carson was calm last night, very good showing.  He's a little manic tho - some of his quotes from the past year are just off the wall insane.  Read all ten of these quotes out loud, then you'll realize why he probably can't be prez.   (cruz 2016)



1. “There comes a time when people with values simply have to stand up. Think about Nazi Germany. Most of those people did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they speak up? Did they stand up for what they believe in? They did not, and you saw what happened.”
~Ben Carson, comparing Democrats to Nazis, January 2014.

2. “I mean, [America is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”
~Ben Carson, telling Breitbart News how America is like Nazi Germany because of liberals, March 2014.

3. “ObamaCare is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. In a way, it is slavery, because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”
~Ben Carson, comparing healthcare to slavery during the Values Voter Summit, October 2013.

4. “Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.”
~Ben Carson, claiming ObamaCare is worse than the 9/11 terrorist attacks that killed 3,000 Americans, June 2014.

5. “I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do it with the entire population?”
~Ben Carson, thanking God for dead soldiers in an attack on ObamaCare amid the Veteran’s Affairs military healthcare scandal in which veterans died waiting for medical care, Memorial Day Weekend 2014.

6. “My thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society, and no group — be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality — it doesn’t matter what they are — they don’t get to change the definition.”
~Ben Carson, comparing same-sex marriage to bestiality and pedophilia, April 2013.

7. “Certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.”
~Ben Carson, telling Fox News that President Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 Election so he can continue being president, September 2014.

8. “I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.”
~Ben Carson, claiming the AP History curriculum will cause students who learn about civil disobedience in this country to join a violent terrorist group, September 2014.

9. “Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked.”
~Ben Carson, advocating for stripping non-citizens of their no-existant American citizenship if they are caught voting, November 2014. NOTE: quote was later removed from Carson’s WND column.

10. “So if there were a container of contaminated urine, and somehow it managed to find its way to someplace a lot of damage could be done. Someone comes up to a lab worker. He knows he’s got the urine. ‘How would you like to have a million dollars?’ … Such things have been known to happen.”
~Ben Carson, fearmongering over Ebola by saying it could be used a biological weapon even though infectious disease experts disagree, August 2014.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 11:15:02 AM
Even after all of the dead terrorists from drone strikes... The killing of Bin Laden... You're willing to say he would rather kill babies than terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that?


He didn't kill BinLaden. Saying "go" isn't killing him. You fell for it.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 07, 2015, 11:16:28 AM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?

For being an intelligent guy, he sure has made a number of stupid comments. That and he doesn't inspire me one bit.

The GOP needs a better candidate and, right now, none are impressive.

Good post by 240 here:

Carson was calm last night, very good showing.  He's a little manic tho - some of his quotes from the past year are just off the wall insane.  Read all ten of these quotes out loud, then you'll realize why he probably can't be prez.   (cruz 2016)



1. “There comes a time when people with values simply have to stand up. Think about Nazi Germany. Most of those people did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they speak up? Did they stand up for what they believe in? They did not, and you saw what happened.”
~Ben Carson, comparing Democrats to Nazis, January 2014.

2. “I mean, [America is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”
~Ben Carson, telling Breitbart News how America is like Nazi Germany because of liberals, March 2014.

3. “ObamaCare is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. In a way, it is slavery, because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”
~Ben Carson, comparing healthcare to slavery during the Values Voter Summit, October 2013.

4. “Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.”
~Ben Carson, claiming ObamaCare is worse than the 9/11 terrorist attacks that killed 3,000 Americans, June 2014.

5. “I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do it with the entire population?”
~Ben Carson, thanking God for dead soldiers in an attack on ObamaCare amid the Veteran’s Affairs military healthcare scandal in which veterans died waiting for medical care, Memorial Day Weekend 2014.

6. “My thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society, and no group — be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality — it doesn’t matter what they are — they don’t get to change the definition.”
~Ben Carson, comparing same-sex marriage to bestiality and pedophilia, April 2013.

7. “Certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.”
~Ben Carson, telling Fox News that President Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 Election so he can continue being president, September 2014.

8. “I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.”
~Ben Carson, claiming the AP History curriculum will cause students who learn about civil disobedience in this country to join a violent terrorist group, September 2014.

9. “Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked.”
~Ben Carson, advocating for stripping non-citizens of their no-existant American citizenship if they are caught voting, November 2014. NOTE: quote was later removed from Carson’s WND column.

10. “So if there were a container of contaminated urine, and somehow it managed to find its way to someplace a lot of damage could be done. Someone comes up to a lab worker. He knows he’s got the urine. ‘How would you like to have a million dollars?’ … Such things have been known to happen.”
~Ben Carson, fearmongering over Ebola by saying it could be used a biological weapon even though infectious disease experts disagree, August 2014.

To become a neurosurgeon, you certainly have to be smart. Politics is a different story and it involves other attributes aside from sheer intelligence.

"1"
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 07, 2015, 11:16:30 AM
He didn't kill BinLaden. Saying "go" isn't killing him. You fell for it.

see, this is just silliness.   Bush didn't "catch" Saddam personally, but he sure deserves credit for it.  
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 07, 2015, 11:20:14 AM
Carson was calm last night, very good showing.  He's a little manic tho - some of his quotes from the past year are just off the wall insane.  Read all ten of these quotes out loud, then you'll realize why he probably can't be prez.   (cruz 2016)



1. “There comes a time when people with values simply have to stand up. Think about Nazi Germany. Most of those people did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they speak up? Did they stand up for what they believe in? They did not, and you saw what happened.”
~Ben Carson, comparing Democrats to Nazis, January 2014.

2. “I mean, [America is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”
~Ben Carson, telling Breitbart News how America is like Nazi Germany because of liberals, March 2014.

3. “ObamaCare is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. In a way, it is slavery, because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”
~Ben Carson, comparing healthcare to slavery during the Values Voter Summit, October 2013.

4. “Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.”
~Ben Carson, claiming ObamaCare is worse than the 9/11 terrorist attacks that killed 3,000 Americans, June 2014.

5. “I think what’s happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. And if we can’t get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do it with the entire population?”
~Ben Carson, thanking God for dead soldiers in an attack on ObamaCare amid the Veteran’s Affairs military healthcare scandal in which veterans died waiting for medical care, Memorial Day Weekend 2014.

6. “My thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society, and no group — be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality — it doesn’t matter what they are — they don’t get to change the definition.”
~Ben Carson, comparing same-sex marriage to bestiality and pedophilia, April 2013.

7. “Certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.”
~Ben Carson, telling Fox News that President Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 Election so he can continue being president, September 2014.

8. “I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.”
~Ben Carson, claiming the AP History curriculum will cause students who learn about civil disobedience in this country to join a violent terrorist group, September 2014.

9. “Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked.”
~Ben Carson, advocating for stripping non-citizens of their no-existant American citizenship if they are caught voting, November 2014. NOTE: quote was later removed from Carson’s WND column.

10. “So if there were a container of contaminated urine, and somehow it managed to find its way to someplace a lot of damage could be done. Someone comes up to a lab worker. He knows he’s got the urine. ‘How would you like to have a million dollars?’ … Such things have been known to happen.”
~Ben Carson, fearmongering over Ebola by saying it could be used a biological weapon even though infectious disease experts disagree, August 2014.



Yes, Ben Carson has zero morals, despite the fact that he spews his religious garbage. Another turd.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 07, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
He didn't kill BinLaden. Saying "go" isn't killing him. You fell for it.

No Joe... I know who did the killing.

You're not quite with me here, but this will help.

Who said "go"?

Had he wanted to save terrorists he would have simply said, "No.", not "Go."

Right?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 11:24:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10153546126201336/
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 07, 2015, 11:32:27 AM

To become a neurosurgeon, you certainly have to be smart. Politics is a different story and it involves other attributes aside from sheer intelligence.



Not really, you just have to pick one thing and study it for your whole life.  A mechanic that can take apart a car engine to it's nuts an bolts and reassemble it is just as intelligent but they focused their learning on mechanics.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 07, 2015, 11:32:33 AM
Our past presidents have not lacked intelligence, they've lacked integrity.


Uhhhhhh ... what ?? How about George W Bush ? Guy was a blathering idiot.


that or they don't want to see it.


Hard to see that which you are not versed or aware of. The majority of Americans are sheep and know more about American Football than American Politics.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 07, 2015, 11:34:11 AM
Not really, you just have to pick one thing and study it for your whole life.  A mechanic that can take apart a car engine to it's nuts an bolts and reassemble it is just as intelligent but they focused their learning on mechanics.


Lol ... did you really just compare an Auto Mechanic ... to a Neurosurgeon ??????
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 07, 2015, 11:35:59 AM

Lol ... did you really just compare an Auto Mechanic ... to a Neurosurgeon ??????

Perhaps a Mechanical Engineer would have been more appropriate.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: polychronopolous on August 07, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
Liberals hate Ben Carson even more because he's black.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 07, 2015, 11:47:27 AM
Perhaps a Mechanical Engineer would have been more appropriate.


Slightly. We are talking about a BRAIN SURGEON HERE, FELLAS.

I know we're all GetBiggers and all .....
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 11:49:06 AM
No Joe... I know who did the killing.

You're not quite with me here, but this will help.

Who said "go"?

Had he wanted to save terrorists he would have simply said, "No.", not "Go."

Right?


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-12/nbc-confirms-obama-lied-about-bin-laden-raid


This is thing. Obama has proven time and time again that he has little if any credibility. If he wrong once or admitted he was wrong or misspoke (in other words, show just a LITTLE integrity) then fine, he might be believable. But he isn't. Not in anyway shape or form.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: _aj_ on August 07, 2015, 11:51:54 AM

Slightly. We are talking about a BRAIN SURGEON HERE, FELLAS.

I know we're all GetBiggers and all .....

If ever there was a proper place to finally use the world "literally"
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 07, 2015, 11:57:22 AM
Having to hear all candidates suck God's Cock and tug on Israel's balls the whole night was nauseating.  That blonde whore would ask them a question about American and they always replied that it's important to keep Israel safe.  What the fuck does that have to do with anything?  And Chris Christie bringing up 9/11 again.  

The two big candidates are Scott Walker and Marco Rubio -  Does anyone know why?  Because the Koch Brothers are dumping in a couple hundred million in Walker's campaign and Sheldon Aldelson is doing the same for Rubio.



Who controls America? Israel and America are basically one in the same. They've been telling us that over that last 40 years...Any outsider visiting Israel is put in a category(watch list)...It's exactly what's ramping up in America. Because the same people run it. America's police being run like the military didn't happen by accident. It's exactly how Israel is run.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 07, 2015, 11:59:21 AM

Slightly. We are talking about a BRAIN SURGEON HERE, FELLAS.

I know we're all GetBiggers and all .....

Totally agree... All I'm saying is that Brain Surgeons don't put people on the moon.

Fuck yeah, they are some of the smartest people on the planet.

I'd put Engineers of various degrees up there as well. Electrical, Mechanical, Chemical.

They are all extremely intelligent.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 07, 2015, 12:02:47 PM
Totally agree... All I'm saying is that Brain Surgeons don't put people on the moon.

Fuck yeah, they are some of the smartest people on the planet.

I'd put Engineers of various degrees up there as well. Electrical, Mechanical, Chemical.

They are all extremely intelligent.

The dude basically just hit talking points every time he was asked a question. I didn't get the sense that he was some super smart dude(although he obviously is)...I'm sure he was nervous, but he didn't come across like he was comfortable in his own skin...To become a Brain surgeon, he really had to follow the rules and do as he's told to get to where he is at. I think he'd get eaten alive in Washington...
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 07, 2015, 12:04:36 PM
Trump didn't earn billions by being a retard.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 07, 2015, 12:06:50 PM
Trump didn't earn billions by being a retard.

The great thing about Trump is he don't take shit from anyone. I wouldn't want to be some young kid wanting to go into the military just for the money if Trump is in charge. That dude will use the military to it's fullest extent I believe. Trump made his daughter marry a Ggew. Supposedly told her she has no choice. Trump is 100% behind the Ggewish Hierarchy. If Israel wanted to go to war with Iran, Trump is the guy that would do for them I believe. If Trump gets elected Pres, he'd be the oldest President of all time at 70 years old. Reagan was 69 when he took office...
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 07, 2015, 12:23:17 PM
Totally agree... All I'm saying is that Brain Surgeons don't put people on the moon.

Fuck yeah, they are some of the smartest people on the planet.

I'd put Engineers of various degrees up there as well. Electrical, Mechanical, Chemical.

They are all extremely intelligent.

I worked with cardiac surgeons for most of my career and some were very intelligent while others were like mechanics. I've been in many cases with the great Dr Oz and he let the cardiac fellows do most of the work.  He couldn't even seat the heart valve correctly and I had to correct him in the last case. Now he has a show acting like he knows everything about the human body. ::)

Like all people some surgeons are smarter than others. Always question your doctors!
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 07, 2015, 12:29:39 PM

I worked with cardiac surgeons for most of my career and some were very intelligent while others were like mechanics. I've been in many cases with the great Dr Oz and he let the cardiac fellows do most of the work.  He couldn't even seat the heart valve correctly and I had to correct him in the last case. Now he has a show acting like he knows everything about the human body. ::)

Like all people some surgeons are smarter than others. Always question your doctors!


Oz got the show because he's a mussy.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on August 07, 2015, 12:33:13 PM
I disagree. It's one of the reasons why this country is screwed. You have a "president" with no zero integrity and definitely ZERO morals. He would just assume lop off a babies head than to kill a terrorist.

your tardation rears it's head in every thread, he would just ASSUME lop off a babies head? as soon.. fuck it.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 07, 2015, 12:33:52 PM
I disagree. It's one of the reasons why this country is screwed. You have a "president" with no zero integrity and definitely ZERO morals. He would just assume lop off a babies head than to kill a terrorist.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 12:37:12 PM
your tardation rears it's head in every thread, he would just ASSUME lop off a babies head? as soon.. fuck it.

You claim to be a doctor..right? lol
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 12:39:01 PM

Uhhhhhh ... what ?? How about George W Bush ? Guy was a blathering idiot.





Hard to see that which you are not versed or aware of. The majority of Americans are sheep and know more about American Football than American Politics.

How so?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: tommywishbone on August 07, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
Two black presidents in a row?    Sure.  Right.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 07, 2015, 03:34:04 PM
x2. If he left out all the religious bullshit, I might consider voting for him. But when he goes on about how the earth is 6,000 years old, well, he lost my vote. Keep your religion out of politics, which may impede on my life.

Ive only voted one time in my life. I may forgo voting this year. Exercising my right not to vote.  :D :D :D

This. So weird how repubs just dont understand that this is why they lose elections. College educated adults laugh at this shit, as they should. They would easily win if they wised up on this stuff. There has got to be a reason why they keep this narrative up, but i dont know what it is. Its costing them elections IMO
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 07, 2015, 03:35:19 PM
I disagree. It's one of the reasons why this country is screwed. You have a "president" with no zero integrity and definitely ZERO morals. He would just assume lop off a babies head than to kill a terrorist.

Lol fucking joke of a post. Do people take your political ranst seriously when u say shit like this? Come on bro, your smarter than this.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 07, 2015, 03:37:03 PM
I disagree. It's one of the reasons why this country is screwed. You have a "president" with no zero integrity and definitely ZERO morals. He would just assume lop off a babies head than to kill a terrorist.

This.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 07, 2015, 03:38:52 PM
What ever happened to Bobby Jindal?  Wasn't he supposed to be the dark skin savior of the GOP?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: DanielPaul on August 07, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
One of the most important thing Ben Carson will do is meticulously think out every decision he makes and how it affects the people and the world, Obamas an asshole that teamed up with hardcore leftist during a time when people where desperate and on top of that 3 of the top 4 media outlets are in his corner.  I doubt he's any smarter than your average getbigger, he reminds me a lot of a smartt ass douche that probably got his ass kicked a lot.  We've never seen his college transcripts to see what kind of student he was. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 07, 2015, 04:05:39 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-12/nbc-confirms-obama-lied-about-bin-laden-raid


This is thing. Obama has proven time and time again that he has little if any credibility. If he wrong once or admitted he was wrong or misspoke (in other words, show just a LITTLE integrity) then fine, he might be believable. But he isn't. Not in anyway shape or form.

attacking obama doesn't make carson better.

carson said a bunch of stupid, inflammatory things.  He's not mature enough to be president, even if he was calm last night.

you can tell us obama sucks, that's cool, but it doesn't make carson any more sensible.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 04:24:21 PM
attacking obama doesn't make carson better.

carson said a bunch of stupid, inflammatory things.  He's not mature enough to be president, even if he was calm last night.

you can tell us obama sucks, that's cool, but it doesn't make carson any more sensible.

Actually it does make Carson better by comparison. Obama set a new degrading moral compass in this country. Ben Carson represents the complete opposite of what Obama is. As long as Obama is in office the comparison should be made. If Killary gets in, you're going to have the same moral degradation as Obama. The comparison MUST be made.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 07, 2015, 04:36:38 PM
lol at idiots actually thinking one politician is going to be better than another politician because they sound nice and moral in their speech haha lol. Oh brotha.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 07, 2015, 04:44:31 PM
attacking obama doesn't make carson better.

carson said a bunch of stupid, inflammatory things.  He's not mature enough to be president, even if he was calm last night.

you can tell us obama sucks, that's cool, but it doesn't make carson any more sensible.

He's calm because he's a neurosurgeon.  He is the most boring man alive.  Needs to stay calm, away from uppers.  Steady hands.  That's all he has
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 05:01:15 PM
lol at idiots actually thinking one politician is going to be better than another politician because they sound nice and moral in their speech haha lol. Oh brotha.

And you actually believe it doesn't. I have news for you.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 07, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
He's calm because he's a neurosurgeon.  He is the most boring man alive.  Needs to stay calm, away from uppers.  Steady hands.  That's all he has

x2. I believe he was head of pediatric neurosurgery at a major hospital.

And its funny that people actually thinks it matters what politicians say in their speech ha lol. Cant get more gullible than that.  :D :D
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 05:17:54 PM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?
::)

Young earth religious Creationist and have you even taken a look at him?   ???  ???


Guy belongs in a church full of nutcases and no place else.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 05:21:34 PM

Slightly. We are talking about a BRAIN SURGEON HERE, FELLAS.

I know we're all GetBiggers and all .....
Same thing as a skilled racecar mechanic really.  Most doctors really are not that bright when it comes down to it.  A lot of them believe in a 6000 year old earth like Ben Carson and many just use the PDR any time they are stumped which is always.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: RagingBull on August 07, 2015, 05:22:28 PM
This is why he's not getting my vote:

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 07, 2015, 05:30:58 PM
lol at idiots actually thinking one politician is going to be better than another politician because they sound nice and moral in their speech haha lol. Oh brotha.

Precisely and 100 percent true
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: calfzilla on August 07, 2015, 06:16:50 PM
x2. If he left out all the religious bullshit, I might consider voting for him. But when he goes on about how the earth is 6,000 years old, well, he lost my vote. Keep your religion out of politics, which may impede on my life.

Ive only voted one time in my life. I may forgo voting this year. Exercising my right not to vote.  :D :D :D

Agreed. So far I have never voted. I liked some of the things the candidates said last night but they would lose me when they would talk about that God nonsense.

If only there was a pro choice atheist republican candidate.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 07, 2015, 06:18:23 PM
Agreed. So far I have never voted. I liked some of the things the candidates said last night but they would lose me when they would talk about that God nonsense.

If only there was a pro choice atheist republican candidate.

It doesnt matter what they say. They all wind up doing the opposite anyway.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:18:40 PM
Agreed. So far I have never voted. I liked some of the things the candidates said last night but they would lose me when they would talk about that God nonsense.

If only there was a pro choice atheist republican candidate.
That dream died out with Barry Goldwater, who was actually a REAL conservative.  

Where is Barry Goldwater of today?   ???  ???
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:20:22 PM
    “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”

    ~ Barry Goldwater, November 1994,  Conservatives Without Conscience (2006)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:21:34 PM
(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-religious-factions-will-go-on-imposing-their-will-on-others-unless-the-decent-people-connected-to-barry-goldwater-315805.jpg)
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Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:23:43 PM
(http://www.bigfishink.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Quote-Barry-Goldwater.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: calfzilla on August 07, 2015, 06:24:02 PM
Damn Goldwater seemed like a smart fella.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:25:29 PM
Damn Goldwater seemed like a smart fella.
He was.

(http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-a-woman-has-a-right-to-an-abortion-that-s-a-decision-that-s-up-to-the-pregnant-woman-barry-goldwater-58-71-77.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:28:44 PM
Damn Goldwater seemed like a smart fella.
Also a Major General in the Air Force.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/BW1iM.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 07, 2015, 06:49:40 PM
No matter who on that stage gets picked the end result is the same. The party decides the policies and the president is just their puppet. You heard their Israel ball sucking. Who do you think really makes the decisions🔯
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 07, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
Not really, you just have to pick one thing and study it for your whole life.  A mechanic that can take apart a car engine to it's nuts an bolts and reassemble it is just as intelligent but they focused their learning on mechanics.

In this instance, I have to beg to differ.

To become a neurosurgeon, you first have to:

Go through your standard undergraduate education (4 yrs with a focus on premed).

Get accepted into a Medical School (and complete 4 yrs of training).

Throughout the process, successfully take the USMLE Steps 1-3 (you need to do very well in this 3-part exam if you want to land a spot as a neurosurgery resident).

Assuming you get through med school and score very well in all 3 parts of the USMLE, then you get accepted into a neurosurgery residency (and that takes another 6 yrs of training).

After you complete your neurosurgery residency, you could then apply for a job at a major medical institution. If it were incredibly easy to get a job afterwards, everyone who applies would then land a dream job, but the reality is that sometimes these "new" neurosurgeons" have to "beef" up their resume by completing an added 1-2 yrs within a fellowship program in something like endovascular neurosurgery and interventional neuroradiology.

So, tally it up and you have up to 16 yrs of training to become a neurosurgeon. Assuming you have the mental stamina, physical dexterity and sheer intelligence to do what it takes, then yes, it isn't that hard, but to compare it to a mechanic, that's a far cry. I'd say that the average person "in the know" would say that the comparison between a car mechanic and a neurosurgeon is not even in the same galaxy. Give a high school graduate one year at a trade school and they can be considered a car mechanic.

All that aside, then if you were to consider the ramifications involved in performing both roles, the car mechanic might possibly be unable to fix your car, which in the worse case scenario would require you to buy a new one. The neurosurgeon doesn't get many outs, because if he/she fails, most often the patient dies and if the patient dies, it could possibly cause them their reputation and ultimately their career and job.

"1"
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 07, 2015, 08:36:07 PM
In this instance, I have to beg to differ.

To become a neurosurgeon, you first have to:

Go through your standard undergraduate education (4 yrs with a focus on premed).

Get accepted into a Medical School (and complete 4 yrs of training).

Throughout the process, successfully take the USMLE Steps 1-3 (you need to do very well in this 3-part exam if you want to land a spot as a neurosurgery resident).

Assuming you get through med school and score very well in all 3 parts of the USMLE, then you get accepted into a neurosurgery residency (and that takes another 6 yrs of training).

After you complete your neurosurgery residency, you could then apply for a job at a major medical institution. If it were incredibly easy to get a job afterwards, everyone who applies would then land a dream job, but the reality is that sometimes these "new" neurosurgeons" have to "beef" up their resume by completing an added 1-2 yrs within a fellowship program in something like endovascular neurosurgery and interventional neuroradiology.

So, tally it up and you have up to 16 yrs of training to become a neurosurgeon. Assuming you have the mental stamina, physical dexterity and sheer intelligence to do what it takes, then yes, it isn't that hard, but to compare it to a mechanic, that's a far cry. I'd say that the average person "in the know" would say that the comparison between a car mechanic and a neurosurgeon is not even in the same galaxy. Give a high school graduate one year at a trade school and they can be considered a car mechanic.

All that aside, then if you were to consider the ramifications involved in performing both roles, the car mechanic might possibly be unable to fix your car, which in the worse case scenario would require you to buy a new one. The neurosurgeon doesn't get many outs, because if he/she fails, most often the patient dies and if the patient dies, it could possibly cause them their reputation and ultimately their career and job.

"1"

You have to be pretty damn smart to be a neurosurgeon, but mainly book smart, and thats about it. However, it doesnt mean they are intelligent in any other way. If you read the literature on intelligence, many theorists apply a multifactorial understanding of intelligence. Howard Gardner identified different types of intelligence: musical–rhythmic, visual–spatial, verbal–linguistic, logical–mathematical, bodily–kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal, and naturalistic.

Id say someone like Beethoven is equally as brilliant as a neurosurgeon.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: DanielPaul on August 07, 2015, 08:55:12 PM
You have to be pretty damn smart to be a neurosurgeon, but mainly book smart, and thats about it. However, it doesnt mean they are intelligent in any other way. If you read the literature on intelligence, many theorists apply a multifactorial understanding of intelligence. Howard Gardner identified different types of intelligence: musical–rhythmic, visual–spatial, verbal–linguistic, logical–mathematical, bodily–kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal, and naturalistic.

Id say someone like Beethoven is equally as brilliant as a neurosurgeon.

Book smart mainly?  Have you looked at the tools these guys have to use?  Look man, him being a Christian kills it for you I get it, that's what it really boils down to right, if he came out tomorrow and said lighting struck some primordial mash and boom 5 billion years later we have man you'd probably like him a bit more because that's realistic to you.  But for me I've got to have someone who believes there is more than just this life and believes in an accountability that goes past it.  When more and more people get to a point that they don't give two shits about that accountability we are in deep shit my friend
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 07, 2015, 08:56:39 PM
There's no one man that's going to save this country.  If it were to ever be saved, it would take a grass roots effort of most people checking themselves and doing what's right.  That said, we know that will never happen. I don't like his stance on vaccinations. Other than that I like him.

So no Jeezzuss comeback  :o :-\
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 07, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
Yes.....YES!...YES!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D

Hey Wiggly where is Nabiru  ???
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 07, 2015, 09:04:17 PM
One of the most important thing Ben Carson will do is meticulously think out every decision he makes and how it affects the people and the world, Obamas an asshole that teamed up with hardcore leftist during a time when people where desperate and on top of that 3 of the top 4 media outlets are in his corner.  I doubt he's any smarter than your average getbigger, he reminds me a lot of a smartt ass douche that probably got his ass kicked a lot.  We've never seen his college transcripts to see what kind of student he was. 
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America needs someone who can party with Putin. Simple as that. If America and Russia go together they could crush every other Country. If that isn't the move today, it will be the move for your sons and/or grandsons ect. May as well go all in now.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2015, 10:42:06 PM
You have to be pretty damn smart to be a neurosurgeon, but mainly book smart, and thats about it. However, it doesnt mean they are intelligent in any other way. If you read the literature on intelligence, many theorists apply a multifactorial understanding of intelligence. Howard Gardner identified different types of intelligence: musical–rhythmic, visual–spatial, verbal–linguistic, logical–mathematical, bodily–kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal, and naturalistic.

Id say someone like Beethoven is equally as brilliant as a neurosurgeon.


Huh??????????????? Mainly "book smart"?? W...T...F?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 07, 2015, 11:44:36 PM
Book smart mainly?  Have you looked at the tools these guys have to use?  Look man, him being a Christian kills it for you I get it, that's what it really boils down to right, if he came out tomorrow and said lighting struck some primordial mash and boom 5 billion years later we have man you'd probably like him a bit more because that's realistic to you.  But for me I've got to have someone who believes there is more than just this life and believes in an accountability that goes past it.  When more and more people get to a point that they don't give two shits about that accountability we are in deep shit my friend

Priests believe in accountability and they molest little boys.  :-\

Being accountable in an afterlife hardly limits any politician from being dishonest. Look at all the politicians who believe in God, yet still do shady things. This is why it doesn't matter if a politician believes in God because they all do illegal things. And I am not too sure why you care if they are held accountable in an afterlife, when you should be more concerned if they are held accountable during this life, considering all the politicians who get away with doing illegal things and never see jail. Yet, you're concerned if they go to heaven or hell, which you will probably never find out if they do or not. So, it's okay if they do illegal things and avoid jail when they are alive, as long as they go to hell? Lol.

You're still clinging to this ridiculous ideology that being held accountable in an afterlife somehow equals good behavior while we are alive. Talk about a ridiculous idea. You should be more concerned with a politician or any person being held accountable toward their fellow man while they are alive. That's the true source or morality. Not whether or not they go to some imaginary hell.

This is backwards thinking and people like you are directly responsible for the dumbing down of the human species.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 07, 2015, 11:58:07 PM
Actually it does make Carson better by comparison. Obama set a new degrading moral compass in this country. Ben Carson represents the complete opposite of what Obama is. As long as Obama is in office the comparison should be made. If Killary gets in, you're going to have the same moral degradation as Obama. The comparison MUST be made.

in that case, I can compare obama to hitler or stalin, and VOILA, by your logic... "obama is better by comparison".

No, the MINUTE you make the yardstick for "good enough for office" to be "just not as bad as obama", then we settle for mediocre candidates.  In 2008, mccain was "better than obama" and lost.  In 2012, romney was "better than obama" and lost too.

Maybe you should make the 2016 goal something like "better than all of the other freakin' republicans out there" and not just settle on the out-of-tough millionaire clueless flipflopper RINO with the most baggage.  Again.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 08, 2015, 12:01:33 AM
in that case, I can compare obama to hitler or stalin, and VOILA, by your logic... "obama is better by comparison".

No, the MINUTE you make the yardstick for "good enough for office" to be "just not as bad as obama", then we settle for mediocre candidates.  In 2008, mccain was "better than obama" and lost.  In 2012, romney was "better than obama" and lost too.

Maybe you should make the 2016 goal something like "better than all of the other freakin' republicans out there" and not just settle on the out-of-tough millionaire clueless flipflopper RINO with the most baggage.  Again.

Hahahah, your analogies...oh boy. lol
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 08, 2015, 12:23:34 AM
Hahahah, your analogies...oh boy. lol


Better than obama?  He's not running against obama.

Sorry, but Carson is just like trump - an inability to act with dignity and professionalism on the global stage. 

you're all about trump this week - but should the LEADER and FACE of the USA be making period jokes about reporters?   REALLY?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: _aj_ on August 08, 2015, 04:15:02 AM
You have to be pretty damn smart to be a neurosurgeon, but mainly book smart, and thats about it. However, it doesnt mean they are intelligent in any other way. If you read the literature on intelligence, many theorists apply a multifactorial understanding of intelligence. Howard Gardner identified different types of intelligence: musical–rhythmic, visual–spatial, verbal–linguistic, logical–mathematical, bodily–kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal, and naturalistic.

Id say someone like Beethoven is equally as brilliant as a neurosurgeon.


Look, you don't like the guy because he's religious. Fine. That's your particular intolerance. But don't be stupid and try to denigrate the guy's intelligence by saying little idiocies like "it's book smarts".

Intelligence isn't a requirement for the job. Look at Obama, the dumbest fucking man to ever hold the job. He sucks at being president, but Reagan was pretty good at it.

Also, we all know there is 0.00% chance that you are voting for the republican, not matter who it is. You'll yank the lever for the D like the rest of the trained monkeys. Enjoy your servitude.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 08, 2015, 04:25:35 AM
Intelligence isn't a requirement for the job. Look at Obama, the dumbest fucking man to ever hold the job.

obama is smart.  harvard law, and he convinced half the nation to elect a dude named hussein with no experience or legit birth certificate.

obama's just corrupt in ideology and his moral compass is skewed in a really shitty way (extreme socialism).

Obama was smart enough to exploit millions of americans, he was smart enough to out-maneuver the Clintons, the Roves in two national elections and win comfortably. 

obama's #1 goal was to expand the liberal agenda, and to that end, he's succeeded.  his goal was never to recover the budget or improve our national work ethic or stop spread of whatever.  His job and goal was to grow the democrat party in the USA, and voila, he has done that. 

so while I respect your opinion, i think the 'obama is dumb' mindset is why he keeps winning elections and why dems are STRONGER in 2015 than they were in 2007.  Repubs still underestimate the guy why beat them twice, delivered obamacare, delivered amnesty, delivered gay marraige, and did it all without even being born here lol.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: _aj_ on August 08, 2015, 04:33:48 AM
obama is smart.  harvard law, and he convinced half the nation to elect a dude named hussein with no experience or legit birth certificate.

obama's just corrupt in ideology and his moral compass is skewed in a really shitty way (extreme socialism).

Obama was smart enough to exploit millions of americans, he was smart enough to out-maneuver the Clintons, the Roves in two national elections and win comfortably.  

obama's #1 goal was to expand the liberal agenda, and to that end, he's succeeded.  his goal was never to recover the budget or improve our national work ethic or stop spread of whatever.  His job and goal was to grow the democrat party in the USA, and voila, he has done that.  

so while I respect your opinion, i think the 'obama is dumb' mindset is why he keeps winning elections and why dems are STRONGER in 2015 than they were in 2007.  Repubs still underestimate the guy why beat them twice, delivered obamacare, delivered amnesty, delivered gay marraige, and did it all without even being born here lol.

actually, he's an idiot. He's the crowning achievement of affirmative action. He's tone-deaf, lacks empathy, his decision-making skills are non-existent. If he analyzes policy at all, it doesn't show. Every decision he makes is with the barest amount of thought. He's a moron. A pure political tabula rasa. The numinous negro.

Went to Harvard without any grades? Edited the Law Review without any articles? He's a cipher, a political construct built purely for the purposes of smiling his way to the presidency because we are at a time in our country and culture where such banal stupidity has appeal.

If you want to argue that he's not an idiot, please provide ONE THING. One decision, one statement, one transcript that can show academic ability. Otherwise, you're just parroting the machine that sold us this lemon.

No, he's not the one pulling the strings. He's just a shitty puppet for what's going on here.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 08, 2015, 05:06:15 AM
(http://www.bigfishink.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Quote-Barry-Goldwater.jpg)

Wow great guy. I wonder why coach and other blind loyalists are never seen criticizing their party on here over this religous shit that has absolutely ruined their party and chances of winning the 18-40 educated vote. Id vote for that man in a nano-second.

That is true conservatism at its core. As i said a zillion times liberal thought is more align with
Libertarian policies than conservs are now.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 08, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
Look, you don't like the guy because he's religious. Fine. That's your particular intolerance. But don't be stupid and try to denigrate the guy's intelligence by saying little idiocies like "it's book smarts".

Intelligence isn't a requirement for the job. Look at Obama, the dumbest fucking man to ever hold the job. He sucks at being president, but Reagan was pretty good at it.

Also, we all know there is 0.00% chance that you are voting for the republican, not matter who it is. You'll yank the lever for the D like the rest of the trained monkeys. Enjoy your servitude.

haha, shows how little you know. I only voted ONE time in my life, and I voted independent. I will most likely never vote again in my lifetime. To be honest, I don't follow politics outside of getbig. I can't even remember the last time I clicked on a political link, unless it was posted on getbig. And even when I do that, I skim the article. In essence, I exercise my right not to vote. Try again, bible boy.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 08, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
Coach and Adonis ... regarding your posts that were directed to me ... not sure if serious ?

I almost feel if I took the time to type out my replies to the both of you individually, my IQ would drop about 30 points.

Sometimes I really worry about you two .....
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: DanielPaul on August 08, 2015, 07:34:20 AM
Priests believe in accountability and they molest little boys.  :-\

Being accountable in an afterlife hardly limits any politician from being dishonest. Look at all the politicians who believe in God, yet still do shady things. This is why it doesn't matter if a politician believes in God because they all do illegal things. And I am not too sure why you care if they are held accountable in an afterlife, when you should be more concerned if they are held accountable during this life, considering all the politicians who get away with doing illegal things and never see jail. Yet, you're concerned if they go to heaven or hell, which you will probably never find out if they do or not. So, it's okay if they do illegal things and avoid jail when they are alive, as long as they go to hell? Lol.

You're still clinging to this ridiculous ideology that being held accountable in an afterlife somehow equals good behavior while we are alive. Talk about a ridiculous idea. You should be more concerned with a politician or any person being held accountable toward their fellow man while they are alive. That's the true source or morality. Not whether or not they go to some imaginary hell.

This is backwards thinking and people like you are directly responsible for the dumbing down of the human species.
I do not know you personally, but I completely understand your point of view all to well because I've spent the first half of my life with your perspective about faith. Then in my mid twenties something started stirring inside that I could not explain ( and I know your reading this now laughing thinking how stereotypical but hey it's my story, I opened my mind and allowed myself to believe and can you imagine the feeling of an actual weight being lifted off your mind and body at the same time.  Your on the floor right now laughing thinking what a f-cking COOK!!! But I'm ok with that because today I'm a better father, husband , brother, uncle, employee and friend.  I have a little wealth ( nothing to brag about) and I'm able to give and for some reason it all happened when I took this faith.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: DanielPaul on August 08, 2015, 07:38:19 AM
actually, he's an idiot. He's the crowning achievement of affirmative action. He's tone-deaf, lacks empathy, his decision-making skills are non-existent. If he analyzes policy at all, it doesn't show. Every decision he makes is with the barest amount of thought. He's a moron. A pure political tabula rasa. The numinous negro.

Went to Harvard without any grades? Edited the Law Review without any articles? He's a cipher, a political construct built purely for the purposes of smiling his way to the presidency because we are at a time in our country and culture where such banal stupidity has appeal.

If you want to argue that he's not an idiot, please provide ONE THING. One decision, one statement, one transcript that can show academic ability. Otherwise, you're just parroting the machine that sold us this lemon.

No, he's not the one pulling the strings. He's just a shitty puppet for what's going on here.


well said
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 08, 2015, 02:37:26 PM
Priests believe in accountability and they molest little boys.  :-\

Being accountable in an afterlife hardly limits any politician from being dishonest. Look at all the politicians who believe in God, yet still do shady things. This is why it doesn't matter if a politician believes in God because they all do illegal things. And I am not too sure why you care if they are held accountable in an afterlife, when you should be more concerned if they are held accountable during this life, considering all the politicians who get away with doing illegal things and never see jail. Yet, you're concerned if they go to heaven or hell, which you will probably never find out if they do or not. So, it's okay if they do illegal things and avoid jail when they are alive, as long as they go to hell? Lol.

You're still clinging to this ridiculous ideology that being held accountable in an afterlife somehow equals good behavior while we are alive. Talk about a ridiculous idea. You should be more concerned with a politician or any person being held accountable toward their fellow man while they are alive. That's the true source or morality. Not whether or not they go to some imaginary hell.

This is backwards thinking and people like you are directly responsible for the dumbing down of the human species.

You really are a simpleton.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: SF1900 on August 08, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
You really are a simpleton.

Shut up, moron. You know absolutely nothing, you loser.

You have no comeback. Now, go away.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 05, 2015, 11:53:40 PM
n the Herald interview, Carson appeared stumped by questions about the so-called wet-foot, dry-foot policy, which allows Cubans who reach U.S. soil to remain here, and about the Cuban Adjustment Act, which allows Cubans who arrive in the U.S. to apply for legal residency after 366 days.

He was candid about not being up to speed.

"You're going to have to explain to me exactly what you mean by that," Carson said, asked about wet-foot, dry-foot. "I have to admit that I don't know a great deal about that, and I don't really like to comment until I've had a chance to study the issue from both sides."

On the Cuban Adjustment Act, he gave a similar response: "Again, I've not been briefed fully on what that is."

When a reporter explained the outlines of the policy, Carson said, "It sounds perfectly reasonable."



In the same week, Carson also said that Medicare and Medicaid fraud is “huge — half a trillion dollars.” If true, that would be almost 50 percent of our total spending on the two programs. The real number is somewhere between 3 and 10 percent — still a problem, but handing the program to a Carson White House would be like handing the drug war over to someone who believes half the United States is hooked on heroin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/11/05/ben-carsons-striking-ignorance/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory



The Popeye's robbery never happened, according to Baltimore police dept.



Multiple versions of his stabbing story.



In the speech -- given at Andrews University, a school with ties to Carson's Seventh-day Adventist faith -- the neurosurgeon shot down claim that aliens had built the pyramids. But he also disagreed with the archaeological consensus that the pyramids were constructed as tombs for the pharaohs.

"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,Carson said. Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaoh graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I dont think itd just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain"



BEN CARSON: Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson, a top-tier contender, wrote on Facebook last night, “Are we sure political experience is what we need. [sic] Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”
 
That’s not even close to being true; many of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence were experienced elected officials. Carson has no idea what he’s talking about, but he doesn’t see that as impediment to sharing claims with no basis in fact.



Carson: You have no right to semi-automatic weapons.

Asked by Beck for his thoughts on the Second Amendment, Carson gave the popular pro-gun argument: “There’s a reason for the Second Amendment; people do have the right to have weapons.”

But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live.”

“I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated.

However, if you live “out in the country somewhere by yourself” and want to own a semi-automatic weapon, he added, “I’ve no problem with that.”


Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2015, 02:55:27 AM
"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain

(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsU/111526-6184-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 06, 2015, 07:41:05 AM
Carson caught in lies now.  Was spouting shit how hard and violent his upbringing was but when his childhood friends were interviewed they say none of that is true.  hahaha.  Asshole trying to get street cred like Dr. Dre did.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Yamcha on November 06, 2015, 07:41:46 AM
Carson caught in lies now.  Was spouting shit how hard and violent his upbringing was but when his childhood friends were interviewed they say none of that is true.  hahaha.  Asshole trying to get street cred like Dr. Dre did.

Reports CNN  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 06, 2015, 07:53:20 AM
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Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Tito24 on November 06, 2015, 08:39:51 AM
someone who says homosexuals are not born that way and if jews had guns during the war there would have been no holocaust ur a complete idiot.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 06, 2015, 08:49:41 AM
n the Herald interview, Carson appeared stumped by questions about the so-called wet-foot, dry-foot policy, which allows Cubans who reach U.S. soil to remain here, and about the Cuban Adjustment Act, which allows Cubans who arrive in the U.S. to apply for legal residency after 366 days.

He was candid about not being up to speed.

"You're going to have to explain to me exactly what you mean by that," Carson said, asked about wet-foot, dry-foot. "I have to admit that I don't know a great deal about that, and I don't really like to comment until I've had a chance to study the issue from both sides."

On the Cuban Adjustment Act, he gave a similar response: "Again, I've not been briefed fully on what that is."

When a reporter explained the outlines of the policy, Carson said, "It sounds perfectly reasonable."



In the same week, Carson also said that Medicare and Medicaid fraud is “huge — half a trillion dollars.” If true, that would be almost 50 percent of our total spending on the two programs. The real number is somewhere between 3 and 10 percent — still a problem, but handing the program to a Carson White House would be like handing the drug war over to someone who believes half the United States is hooked on heroin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/11/05/ben-carsons-striking-ignorance/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory



The Popeye's robbery never happened, according to Baltimore police dept.



Multiple versions of his stabbing story.



In the speech -- given at Andrews University, a school with ties to Carson's Seventh-day Adventist faith -- the neurosurgeon shot down claim that aliens had built the pyramids. But he also disagreed with the archaeological consensus that the pyramids were constructed as tombs for the pharaohs.

"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,Carson said. Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaoh graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I dont think itd just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain"



BEN CARSON: Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson, a top-tier contender, wrote on Facebook last night, “Are we sure political experience is what we need. [sic] Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”
 
That’s not even close to being true; many of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence were experienced elected officials. Carson has no idea what he’s talking about, but he doesn’t see that as impediment to sharing claims with no basis in fact.



Carson: You have no right to semi-automatic weapons.

Asked by Beck for his thoughts on the Second Amendment, Carson gave the popular pro-gun argument: “There’s a reason for the Second Amendment; people do have the right to have weapons.”

But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live.”

“I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated.

However, if you live “out in the country somewhere by yourself” and want to own a semi-automatic weapon, he added, “I’ve no problem with that.”




Only thing I'll chime in on is the medical fraud. It's rampant and if really looked at, I'm sure you could justify that number.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pissant on November 06, 2015, 09:05:23 AM
how he is 2nd place in the polls is mind blowing. Guy is a complete weirdo...I dont even know how the fuck anyone can take him serious lol.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 06, 2015, 09:07:00 AM
how he is 2nd place in the polls is mind blowing. Guy is a complete weirdo...I dont even know how the fuck anyone can take him serious lol.

Have you seen the intelligence level of the republican voter base?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 10:06:12 AM
ITS OVER Carson campaign forced to admit he made up West Point scholarship story


Lying about THIS?   If it's true, I don't know how anyone can defend him anymore...


It  appears Ben Carson’s understanding of his own biography is about as trustworthy as his understanding of the pyramids.

The Republican’s presidential campaign admitted that a central point in his inspirational life story was fabricated, reported Politico.

A campaign official said Carson had made up a story about meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland and being offered a scholarship to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Carson, the retired neurosurgeon, claimed in his book, “Gifted Hands,” that he was introduced to Westmoreland in 1969, when he was 17 years old.

He claimed that he shared a meal with Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the general was so impressed with the boy that he offered him a “full scholarship” to the military academy.

However, West Point has no record of Carson applying or being admitted to the academy.

“In 1969, those who would have completed the entire process would have received their acceptance letters from the Army Adjutant General,” said Theresa Brinkerhoff, a West Point spokeswoman.

The spokeswoman said West Point would have records to prove whether Carson had pursued the application process.

Carson’s campaign admitted the story was bogus when confronted with the evidence.

“Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett told Polico. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carsons-campaign-admits-he-made-up-scholarship-offer-to-west-point/
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 06, 2015, 10:35:54 AM
ITS OVER Carson campaign forced to admit he made up West Point scholarship story


Lying about THIS?   If it's true, I don't know how anyone can defend him anymore...


It  appears Ben Carson’s understanding of his own biography is about as trustworthy as his understanding of the pyramids.

The Republican’s presidential campaign admitted that a central point in his inspirational life story was fabricated, reported Politico.

A campaign official said Carson had made up a story about meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland and being offered a scholarship to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Carson, the retired neurosurgeon, claimed in his book, “Gifted Hands,” that he was introduced to Westmoreland in 1969, when he was 17 years old.

He claimed that he shared a meal with Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the general was so impressed with the boy that he offered him a “full scholarship” to the military academy.

However, West Point has no record of Carson applying or being admitted to the academy.

“In 1969, those who would have completed the entire process would have received their acceptance letters from the Army Adjutant General,” said Theresa Brinkerhoff, a West Point spokeswoman.

The spokeswoman said West Point would have records to prove whether Carson had pursued the application process.

Carson’s campaign admitted the story was bogus when confronted with the evidence.

“Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett told Polico. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carsons-campaign-admits-he-made-up-scholarship-offer-to-west-point/

More liberal lies. It's impossible for them to even truth..


 http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/06/team-carson-politico-story-is-an-outright-lie/


Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: jwb on November 06, 2015, 10:55:08 AM
You would hope the pyramid stuff would have already turned people off this loonie tunes.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 06, 2015, 11:04:57 AM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?

Decent, but he ain't no Trump.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WalterWhite on November 06, 2015, 11:05:59 AM
Have you seen the intelligence level of the republican voter base?

And all the dems are rocket scientists? :D

Both sides are corrupt and thats the issue.  We've gone back to the oligarchy of yesteryear that we fought a war to rid ourselves of.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: hardgainerj on November 06, 2015, 11:24:13 AM
this turkey is done

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qjM0aimx

unfortunately some conservatards will still vote for him
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 06, 2015, 11:45:06 AM
this turkey is done

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qjM0aimx

unfortunately some conservatards will still vote for him

I did I know that you wouldn't read the daily caller article or even go beyond the headline. But you'll vote this without even knowing why..


http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-signed-nda-laying-out-criminal-penalties-for-mishandling-of-classified-info/
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
I did I know that you wouldn't read the daily caller article or even go beyond the headline. But you'll vote this without even knowing why..


http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-signed-nda-laying-out-criminal-penalties-for-mishandling-of-classified-info/

what does this hilary story have to do with ben carson?

also, do you believe the earth is 6,000 years old?  Or 4 billion?

From what I've seen, most carson supporters are the 6000 year type.  Which is cool.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 06, 2015, 01:09:07 PM
And all the dems are rocket scientists? :D

Both sides are corrupt and thats the issue.  We've gone back to the oligarchy of yesteryear that we fought a war to rid ourselves of.
Bernie Sanders is not corrupt.  Look it up.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 06, 2015, 01:46:50 PM
Bernie Sanders is not corrupt.  Look it up.

Being a socialist and wanting to tax 90% makes him and other like minded people corrupt by default.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
Trump wants to grow deficit by 12 tril
Bernie wants to grow deficit by 18 tril

Just different degrees of the same socialism
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Nails on November 06, 2015, 03:46:33 PM
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/706fa96cabbaa362b48b2bf890e632ff/tumblr_mzfgr6Zclx1t0o8tmo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 06, 2015, 03:47:00 PM
Being a socialist and wanting to tax 90% makes him and other like minded people corrupt by default.

Like Eisenhower and we all know what a huge socialist he was.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 03:54:12 PM
Politico misinterpreted the admission from his camp.  But I want u to answer this question:

Was Carson actually offered the scholarship as he claimed?   We still have West Point denying it, we still have his book claiming it.  The only thing changing is what Carson will admit. 


He called a CNN anchor stupid today.  He's losing control. He's feeling the pressure now to cover for exaggerations he has made. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 04:01:23 PM
Breaking news.  Carson going full birther on cnn right now lol

We should be looking at obamas records. 
Let's look at his records, there are questions to be answered. 


His voice elevated.  He's angry.  Rattled over an old story by shitty news media.  He's not ready for the national stage.  Sorry.  Officially rattled. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
"Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point".
Word for word, Carson in his book.  

Today: "I was never offered a scholarship to West Point"

New video:   2009

Carson Recently Made The Scholarship Claim On PBS. During an October 9, 2015, appearance on PBS' Charlie Rose, Carson claimed "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point":




Pretty clear there.  Politico botched the campaign conforming it, but that doesn't matter.  Carson now claiming he didn't.  In his book, his own words, claimed he did.   Period.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 04:16:42 PM
Someone killed the camera feed as he melted down. 

Ya have to wonder who unplugged that on lol. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 06, 2015, 04:22:57 PM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2015, 04:25:02 PM
They turned the camera off as he was talking?  Post up.  I gotta see this.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: polychronopolous on November 06, 2015, 04:44:51 PM
Just another left wing hit piece.

Thankfully they have followers like 240 who lap it up just like he did the edited Zimmerman tape.

Btw, Carson beats Hillary in a head to head matchup by double digits and people loathe the media. They aren't doing themselves any favors. Again.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 04:45:11 PM
All cable channels lost the feed when he started asking each media member to sign an avadavit saying they won't ask the stab victim and whestions
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 06, 2015, 04:47:12 PM
Hardly a lie.

Not like you need to invent stuff to make Ben look silly, but they still did. Absolute nonstory.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: polychronopolous on November 06, 2015, 04:53:00 PM
Hardly a lie.

Not like you need to invent stuff to make Ben look silly, but they still did. Absolute nonstory.

The fact that the media is "inventing stuff to make someone look silly" isn't a story in itself?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 06, 2015, 04:57:46 PM
All cable channels lost the feed when he started asking each media member to sign an avadavit saying they won't ask the stab victim and whestions

Who are  you supporting for president? Or at least who are a few top contenders?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 05:00:39 PM
Who are  you supporting for president? Or at least who are a few top contenders?

I've been a very vocal "Cruz or Lose" proponent for over a year now.

Of course, some clinton voter "repubs" from liberal states will call me a lib because I call Carson a liar and trump a liberal plant, but that's their opinion, which I respect.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 06, 2015, 05:01:15 PM
Clearly the most intelligent man to run in decades, why wouldn't he make a good president?  I was more impressed by him than any other last night,  what if any are the potential negatives if he win office?

Isn't he a creationist therefore excluding any possibility that he could possibly be intelligent?

How can someone who was a neurosurgeon and benefits from the mountains of previous scientific and technical advances to perfrom his job possibly believe that the earth is 6000-10000 years old?

He is either stupid or disingenuous. No to mention the irony of a black person saying a Muslim being president would be contrary to the American constitution. Freedom of religion? Abolition of slavery? Civil rights?

"But you aren't black, there's a difference..." - is that what he thinks? Like I said, stupid or lying to appeal to certain republican groups.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 05:07:06 PM
Isn't he a creationist therefore excluding any possibility that he could possibly be intelligent?

How can someone who was a neurosurgeon and benefits from the mountains of previous scientific and technical advances to perfrom his job possibly believe that the earth is 6000-10000 years old?

He is either stupid or disingenuous. No to mention the irony of a black person saying a Muslim being president would be contrary to the American constitution. Freedom of religion? Abolition of slavery? Civil rights?

"But you aren't black, there's a difference..." - is that what he thinks? Like I said, stupid or lying to appeal to certain republican groups.

evolution is the basis of biology.
biology is the foundation of medicine.

it's impossible to believe he truly think all of this was not here 6,001 years ago.  RATHER, he chose that position because 18% of the population still believe it.  Also, this same group happens to be a little violent - a lot of eye-for-an eye, love for death penalty... SO maybe that's why he's invented all of these violent acts from his past.  These folks gave a standing ovation when Perry bragged how many people he has executed as governor, in 2012...

Add up the "i used to be super violent" with "I believe the Bible is literal" and voila, you have Ben Carson, a product invented to run for Author/endorser/fox pundit in 2015.  He's not building any campaign or longterm 50 state platform - he's blowing 70% of his money on building mailing lists.  It's what huckabee did in 2012.  Appeal to the FAR right then sell them books for 4 years ;)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 06, 2015, 05:13:44 PM
evolution is the basis of biology.
biology is the foundation of medicine.

it's impossible to believe he truly think all of this was not here 6,001 years ago.  RATHER, he chose that position because 18% of the population still believe it.  Also, this same group happens to be a little violent - a lot of eye-for-an eye, love for death penalty... SO maybe that's why he's invented all of these violent acts from his past.  These folks gave a standing ovation when Perry bragged how many people he has executed as governor, in 2012...

Add up the "i used to be super violent" with "I believe the Bible is literal" and voila, you have Ben Carson, a product invented to run for Author/endorser/fox pundit in 2015.  He's not building any campaign or longterm 50 state platform - he's blowing 70% of his money on building mailing lists.  It's what huckabee did in 2012.  Appeal to the FAR right then sell them books for 4 years ;)

Like I said. Appealing to a base of republicans and therefore being disingenuous. In fact I'd nearly class that as worse than being stupid enough to believe in creationism, like Wiggs, as he is effectively repudiating his expensive education and doing a disservice to his intellect to try to gain power.

By the way, there have been a lot of smart politicians who make terrible politicians. Obama for one.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 05:22:28 PM
Obama is a good politician, just terrible at leading, at policy, etc.   

He defeated the repubs twice by good margins.  Got many things thru.  Terrible in many areas but artful as a politician
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 05:25:42 PM
Carson just admitted on Bill O'Reilly that he was Never Offered a Scholarship to West Point. He stated differently on page 57 of his book.  And in 2009 on Charlie rose. 

We can yell about politico jumping he gun with it, but if anything, they just got it out a few hours before Carson himself admitted it on Fox News.  

Carson... Heavily medicated?   No clue he's contradicting himself?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 06, 2015, 05:27:37 PM
I've been a very vocal "Cruz or Lose" proponent for over a year now.

Of course, some clinton voter "repubs" from liberal states will call me a lib because I call Carson a liar and trump a liberal plant, but that's their opinion, which I respect.

Sorry I missed it. Judging by some of your posts I also thought you were a Democrat.

Cruz is definitely in the number one or number two spot for me. He would be a solid number one for me but I am not 100% sure about his mass appeal. When they go after him they will make him look like an uptight, repressed, war mongering, right wing extremist.

He looks pretty "establishment" and an entrenched political insider. And looks and image, rather than substance, counts for a lot with the masses.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 06, 2015, 05:41:11 PM
The fact that the media is "inventing stuff to make someone look silly" isn't a story in itself?

Different story, but certainly not news.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 06, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
"Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point".
Word for word, Carson in his book.  

Today: "I was never offered a scholarship to West Point"

New video:   2009

Carson Recently Made The Scholarship Claim On PBS. During an October 9, 2015, appearance on PBS' Charlie Rose, Carson claimed "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point":




Pretty clear there.  Politico botched the campaign conforming it, but that doesn't matter.  Carson now claiming he didn't.  In his book, his own words, claimed he did.   Period.

Got a link for this?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 06:06:40 PM
I'll post Charlie rose transcript once I'm home.  2009.  Lib message boards are jerking off furiously to it.  He said it on page 57 of book and repeated it on Charlie rose.  Politico.com has the video
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 06, 2015, 06:17:44 PM
Carson just admitted on Bill O'Reilly that he was Never Offered a Scholarship to West Point. He stated differently on page 57 of his book.  And in 2009 on Charlie rose.  

We can yell about politico jumping he gun with it, but if anything, they just got it out a few hours before Carson himself admitted it on Fox News.  

Carson... Heavily medicated?   No clue he's contradicting himself?

He was a straight A student through high school in the Army ROTC  high school program in Detroit. He met a general as high school student at a ROTC event who said he could easily get him into West point for free tuition. He never pursued it. It's semantics. West Point doesn't give scholarships. It offers free tuition to all who attend. No, he never applied to West Point. No, he never had a scholarship.  I will trust Carson over the liberal drum pounding Politico who has a democratic agenda to pursue.

 Why isn't Politico going after Hillary for lying about being under sniper fire running for her life in Bosnia when CBS news film reveals little girls handing her flowers as she walked toward the terminal? She said she misspoke. Please, this how Obama got elected from the liberal press guiding the sheep. Worst and most divisive president in my life time.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 06, 2015, 06:19:41 PM
Obama is a good politician, just terrible at leading, at policy, etc.   

He defeated the repubs twice by good margins.  Got many things thru.  Terrible in many areas but artful as a politician

I think he has been a terrible politician. Too inexperienced when he took office. You can say he had to deal with a completely polarised Republican majority when trying to pass any law but so did Clinton - he knew how to cut deals though and oversaw greatest economic boom in 40 years or so with a controversial budget.

Not to mention the heightening of racial tension ("if i had a son..." please, stay out of judicial procedures, there is separation of powers in any democracy), his inability to pass gun control laws (see above), his flip flopping on foreign wars (keeping troops in Afghanistan, being in power while the Arab spring nurtured the rise of IS due to power vacuum)...

Like I said. Smart guy. Bad politician. I hate, HATE Putin, but his (former) stance on Assad being core to any solution in Syria is streetwise, Obama just repeats catchphrases about dictators and human rights while people are being beheaded, burned, displaced etc as a result of the spread of IS.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 06, 2015, 07:47:44 PM
I'll post Charlie rose transcript once I'm home.  2009.  Lib message boards are jerking off furiously to it.  He said it on page 57 of book and repeated it on Charlie rose.  Politico.com has the video

No, I know what he said in the book, I meant this:

Today: "I was never offered a scholarship to West Point"

Where did he say this?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: jwb on November 06, 2015, 09:58:42 PM
The pyramids people... The pyramids!
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2015, 10:19:09 PM
The pyramids people... The pyramids!

Came across an awesome theory the other day by someone named Davidavits.  Blocks not quarried, carried, hoisted, & carved with millimeter precision.  Simply cast in place abutting previously cast blocks using a lime concrete.  Man made stone.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 06, 2015, 11:49:25 PM
I've been a very vocal "Cruz or Lose" proponent for over a year now.

Of course, some clinton voter "repubs" from liberal states will call me a lib because I call Carson a liar and trump a liberal plant, but that's their opinion, which I respect.

Bullshit. You've been attacking whatever conservative or repub has been a front runner threat. Be it Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Christie or Rubio. You're fighting tooth and nail to prove that Politico story correct no matter what the opposing stories say. Holy shit, just stop and save some dignity.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2015, 11:57:13 PM
Bullshit. You've been attacking whatever conservative or repub has been a front runner threat. Be it Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Christie or Rubio. You're fighting tooth and nail to prove that Politico story correct no matter what the opposing stories say. Holy shit, just stop and save some dignity.

Not Cruz.  Cruz is the man.  I want him to win the nomination and the presidency.  Look thru my post history.  I disagree with him on a few things, but I have been all about "Cruz 2016" and "cruz or lose" about 5000 times in the last year lol.   I like his positions and the way he carries himself.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2015, 12:00:24 AM
Not Cruz.  Cruz is the man.  I want him to win the nomination and the presidency.  Look thru my post history.  I disagree with him on a few things, but I have been all about "Cruz 2016" and "cruz or lose" about 5000 times in the last year lol.   I like his positions and the way he carries himself.



You can't want Cruz who is a true conservative and then defend Killary, Sanders and Obama like you do. Nice try.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 12:01:22 AM
Ben Carson has repeatedly claimed he was offered a full scholarship from West Point. He conveys the story in at least two other books, “You Have a Brain” and “Take the Risk.” Carson repeated his West Point claim as recently as Aug. 13, when he fielded questions from supporters on Facebook.

And in October, Carson shared the story with Charlie Rose: “I had a goal of achieving the office of city executive officer [in JROTC]. Well, no one had ever done that in that amount of time … Long story short, it worked, I did it. I was offered full scholarship to West Point, got to meet General Westmoreland, go to Congressional Medal dinners, but decided really my pathway would be medicine.”

West Point, however, has no record of Carson applying, much less being extended admission.

HE LIED>    Yes, politico understood his campaign saying "He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.” WHICH very clearly shows no scholarship COULD have been offered.  No apply, no offer, silly.

SO yeah, politico made that connection, which of course, carson denied and gave all the repubs a boner of "oh, we got the media!"  But 4 hours later, Carson denied every being offered, denied even applying.

he lied in his book, on facebook, and on that tv appearance.  You can hate politico for breaking it 4 hours before carson did, but they were correct, and he validated them.  

Carson is a mess.  He lies nonstop.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 12:05:13 AM
You can't want Cruz who is a true conservative and then defend Killary, Sanders and Obama like you do. Nice try.

oh i shit all over sanders lol.  And hilary is just Bush/obama II.

You can go out on a limb and somehow claim to know what another man wants.  It's weird tho, isn't it?  Do you want to tell me what kind of ice cream I want, and what sexual positions I prefer?  Do you want to really pretend you know what another man wants?  That's creepy, bro.

I like PURE conservative running against a PURE liberal.  I wanted Cruz vs. that fake indian Warren, so america would HAVE to choose.  You run hilary against trump, and their politics and policies are SO CLOSE, ya know?  that's crap, doesn't change anything.  I say, run the biggest liberal against the biggest conservative, and let america choose her bold new direction.

This crap about trump, carson, they're both idiots, they both pander.  Trump is an immature ass, and Carson is just a big liar.  All week, every day, another big lie.  And the idiotic shit about the pyramids?  And he had no idea what wet foot/dry foot on cuba was?  WTF?  that's middle school social studies stuff. 

he's been sucked into explaining the dumb shit that anyone with grace, style, and precision would have brushed off.  He's rattled.  he's rattle-able.  Make him surgeon general, but please, don't put him against hilary.  He will lose.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2015, 12:12:21 AM
Mmmm, but you picked the pure liberal/socialist twice by your own admission. You defend his economy, you defend his spending, he'll, just tonight you defended Politico against Carson but you make excuses for Killary and Bengazi. Makes NO sense what so ever.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 12:16:40 AM
Mmmm, but you picked the pure liberal/socialist twice by your own admission. You defend his economy, you defend his spending, he'll, just tonight you defended Politico against Carson but you make excuses for Killary and Bengazi. Makes NO sense what so ever.

Swear on your MFing life that "picked the pure liberal/socialist twice by your own admission"

Swear on your big toe, if you prefer.  I never did that, and I demand that you either swear on it, or stop saying it.  

You are welcome to believe I am incapable of voting cruz "because I attack RINOs", just as I'm able to believe, in turn, that you cannot support cruz because you refuse to attack RINOs like jeb or trump.

But "by your own admission" - no, my family voted obama and I did not.  

so I demand that you swear on your motherfffking life that I voted obama twice, or admitted it..... OR stop saying it.  Do it man.  You believe swears are serious things. Swear on it.  

You won't.  I've asked and you won't.


ANyway, let's not turn this into a personal attack thread.

Carson is a liar.  He admitted it tonight.  He looks like shit.  The repub frontrunner, that many getbiggers were kneepadding for months, is a bag of lying shit.   no amount of lies about me will change the GOp frontrunner being a bag of lying shit, now will it?

Where will carson be by thanksgiving in polls?  4%?  6%?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 12:18:48 AM
just tonight you defended Politico against Carson

Um... not sure if you heard Carson on Oreilly Factor.   Politico was right that he lied ;)
And he said politico was wrong, then he went on FOX and admitted it in his own words lol.

Carson vindicated politico with his own FOX interview.  isn't that so so ironic?  lol
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 12:21:32 AM
How can someone who was a neurosurgeon and benefits from the mountains of previous scientific and technical advances to perfrom his job possibly believe that the earth is 6000-10000 years old?

Two getbiggers that I can think of, defend Carson a ton... and they REFUSE to say if they believe the earth is about 6000 years old, or about 4 billion years old.

But ya know, 18% of the population believes it.  Isn't that nuts?  almost 1 in 5 people we see (at least, while traveling thru tennessee or arkansas) believe the sand on the beach wasn't there 6000 years ago.  They believe the grand canyon was just magically placed there, and was not a product of erosion.

Almost 1 in 5 lol.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Europe on November 07, 2015, 02:25:38 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/xseKIEj.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 06:27:44 AM
Today: "I was never offered a scholarship to West Point"

Safe to assume you made this up, then?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Tom on November 07, 2015, 06:36:40 AM
by now in 2015? i hope the majority of the public and society have awoken or will awake to realize and know "just because someone is intelligent, doesn't mean they are smart... or a good person" "just because someone is intelligent in ONE PARTICULAR FIELD doesn't mean they are intelligent everywhere else"..carson seemingly is the EPITOME Of this?....

other recent quotes from him: when being interviewed on tv during the baltimore riots and saying what he would do if he was there in person that would stop the violence, the journalist then asked him "then why aren't you there right now, there in baltimore doing what you just told me how you would handle the situation?" his answer was: because i'm here with you, talking to you!"  what a great comeback! lol! DUH!

and let us not forget that every man who goes to prison and leaves it becomes gay quote!....
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2015, 06:47:35 AM
Politico admits they fabricated the story...

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/06/politico-admits-fabricating-a-hit-piece-on-ben-carson/
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 06:52:47 AM
Safe to assume you made this up, then?

“I never said that I received a full scholarship. Nowhere did I say that,” Carson said. “POLITICO as you know, told a bold-faced lie.”

Um, maybe you guys missed this?  LOL.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 06:54:43 AM
by now in 2015? i hope the majority of the public and society have awoken or will awake to realize and know "just because someone is intelligent, doesn't mean they are smart... or a good person" "just because someone is intelligent in ONE PARTICULAR FIELD doesn't mean they are intelligent everywhere else"..carson seemingly is the EPITOME Of this?....

other recent quotes from him: when being interviewed on tv during the baltimore riots and saying what he would do if he was there in person that would stop the violence, the journalist then asked him "then why aren't you there right now, there in baltimore doing what you just told me how you would handle the situation?" his answer was: because i'm here with you, talking to you!"  what a great comeback! lol! DUH!

and let us not forget that every man who goes to prison and leaves it becomes gay quote!....

Exactly, you'd think the legit goofy stuff he actually says would be enough - like when he dismissed "all these highfalutin scientists" and their hair-brained theories. From a man of science, no less.

Yet they STILL lie.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 06:56:49 AM
Exactly, you'd think the legit goofy stuff he actually says would be enough - like when he dismissed "all these highfalutin scientists" and their hair-brained theories. From a man of science, no less.

Yet they STILL lie.

Politico jumping to the conclusion is the BEST thing for him.  He's caught in a lot of lies this week.  He's said a bunch of ignorant things about pyramids, etc this week...

he looks like a total lying dumb ass.  BUT the only saving grace for him is shitting all over the media, which his followers (who love anger/violence and believe earth is only 6000 years old) - they LOVE the anti-media stuff.

You'll see his minions posting "politico was wrong" all day... they were awfully quiet this week when 6 or 8 of Carson's lies were unraveled.  So ya know they're ready to chat all of a sudden ;)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2015, 06:58:54 AM
“I never said that I received a full scholarship. Nowhere did I say that,” Carson said. “POLITICO as you know, told a bold-faced lie.”

Um, maybe you guys missed this?  LOL.



Then post it up.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 07:00:06 AM
“I never said that I received a full scholarship. Nowhere did I say that,” Carson said. “POLITICO as you know, told a bold-faced lie.”

Um, maybe you guys missed this?  LOL.



Why did you say OFFERED when he said RECEIVED, then? Are these synonymous to you?

What he's saying now is perfectly consistent with what we wrote in his book.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 07:03:50 AM
Then post it up.

I just did lol - this was yesterday.  He's now playing word games -

http://www.businessinsider.com/ben-carson-press-conference-west-point-politico-cnn-2015-11

"Wait a minute, don't lie! I never said that I received a full scholarship. Nowhere did I say that," the leading Republican presidential candidate challenged one reporter who suggested otherwise.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: absfabs on November 07, 2015, 07:07:57 AM
Trump and Rand Paul, as well as Cruz more intelligent ......

Carson way better than Hitlery of course.

Carson would be first black president.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 07:20:06 AM
After the shit week that Carson had, I cannot blame his supporters for celebrating one bad media headline like they just won the super bowl lol.

They were silent all week.  Now it's victory parade?  Carson was never offered a scholarship, he now admits.  In his book, on Charlie rose, on fb, he claimed he was.  He's using he use of the word "full" to side step but we all know the bottom line- no scholarship when he was he was offered. 

Enjoy one politico bad headline.   The rest of the republican field is enjoying seeing Carson lie and make up facts and really just act like an ass.  But you got that one politico headline. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 07:24:37 AM
Two getbiggers that I can think of, defend Carson a ton... and they REFUSE to say if they believe the earth is about 6000 years old, or about 4 billion years old.

But ya know, 18% of the population believes it.  Isn't that nuts?  almost 1 in 5 people we see (at least, while traveling thru tennessee or arkansas) believe the sand on the beach wasn't there 6000 years ago.  They believe the grand canyon was just magically placed there, and was not a product of erosion.

Almost 1 in 5 lol.

Which is probably exactly what Cruz believes, too, just like his old man. Notice you didn't address any of his silly beliefs, though. Imagine that.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 07:39:22 AM
I just did lol - this was yesterday.  He's now playing word games -

http://www.businessinsider.com/ben-carson-press-conference-west-point-politico-cnn-2015-11

"Wait a minute, don't lie! I never said that I received a full scholarship. Nowhere did I say that," the leading Republican presidential candidate challenged one reporter who suggested otherwise.

You're the one with word games, you lying fuck. Doing exactly what Politico did - two verbs with entirely different meanings.

I'm no Carson fan, so who cares, really; but you're a disingenuous hack, without question. No better than any of these phony politicians or the partisan zombies who worship them.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 07:41:46 AM
Which is probably exactly what Cruz believes, too, just like his old man. Notice you didn't address any of his silly beliefs, though. Imagine that.

Im happy to discuss any that you'd like. 

This week, Carson made some outrageous claims, and some lies he told were revealed.  Hence its newsworthy. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2015, 08:33:25 AM
Im happy to discuss any that you'd like. 

This week, Carson made some outrageous claims, and some lies he told were revealed.  Hence its newsworthy. 

No matter how often you're proven wrong you would never admit it. Politico admits it was a false story yet you're still defending them...lol.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 09:49:07 AM
No matter how often you're proven wrong you would never admit it. Politico admits it was a false story yet you're still defending them...lol.

politico admit they flubbed the headline/admission.

coach, was carson offered a scholarship, yes or no?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: dr.chimps on November 07, 2015, 10:12:27 AM
Heck, all politicians lie, son. This Carson feller's just not no good about it.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 10:13:52 AM
Heck, all politicians lie, son. This Carson feller's just not no good about it.
Bernie Sanders does not and has never done so.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: dr.chimps on November 07, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
Bernie Sanders does not and has never done so.
Then he isn`t a politician. QED.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: polychronopolous on November 07, 2015, 10:38:41 AM
Bernie Sanders does not and has never done so.

One of the most inspirational speeches I have heard in a long time.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 01:14:54 PM
One of the most inspirational speeches I have heard in a long time.



Eh, fuck him and his pathetic white guilt.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 02:26:44 PM
I don't like anyone on either side except cruz.  I wanted to see cruz against warren.  Really make the country CHOOSE if they want a proven conservative, or a proven liberal.  Period. Pick one.  No moderates/RINOS.

But I do demand some sort of competency in my candidates.  I know, die hards say Cruz is somehow competent to run a country because he used to be a surgeon.  But it's not the case.  He is RATTLED clearly with the latest questions.  Sweating, angry, upset from some silly CNN or politico report. 

The enemies of this nation will rattle the FCK out of him.  Let's be honest.  Also he didnt have any idea there was a wet foot/dry foot policy with Cuba.  That's inexcusable.  That's basic basic foreign relations ship.  I'm not ready to trust his opinion that obama is handling cuba wrong - when the MFer doesn't have a clue about wet foot.  That's just horrible, and anyone that supports him has very low standards for their leaders' competence.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
After the shit week that Carson had, I cannot blame his supporters for celebrating one bad media headline like they just won the super bowl lol.

They were silent all week.  Now it's victory parade?  Carson was never offered a scholarship, he now admits.  In his book, on Charlie rose, on fb, he claimed he was.  He's using he use of the word "full" to side step but we all know the bottom line- no scholarship when he was he was offered. 

Enjoy one politico bad headline.   The rest of the republican field is enjoying seeing Carson lie and make up facts and really just act like an ass.  But you got that one politico headline. 

Carson, a surgeon said he was a Flaming Liberal but listened to Ronald Reagan and became a Conservative. Does anyone know when Carson started believing that the Earth is 6000 years old?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 02:47:06 PM
Carson, a surgeon said he was a Flaming Liberal but listened to Ronald Reagan and became a Conservative. Does anyone know when Carson started believing that the Earth is 6000 years old?
Carson has always been a religious lunatic since a child.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: hardgainerj on November 07, 2015, 02:48:40 PM
Eh, fuck him and his pathetic white guilt.
hes jewish
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 03:10:54 PM
Carson has always been a religious lunatic since a child.

extensive interviews and record checks are showing he likely fabricated a history of violence.

He remembers in 2011, at a GOP debate, where they stood and applauded Perry for executing people lol.


So he likely made up these violent acts to gain credibility with the blood lust group. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 03:21:55 PM
Picture of Ben Carson with Jesus that he has in his fucking house. WTF :o I think Black Velvet would have really set this picture off nicely.

http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carsons-home-eerie-homage-195358324.html

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTOQZ_oWwAAiNpc.png)(https://img0.etsystatic.com/033/1/5994132/il_570xN.660273496_l57e.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 03:26:59 PM
Ben Carson's shrine to himself may have Jay Cutler beat

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=550634.0;attach=579084;image)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 07, 2015, 03:30:40 PM
Carson, a surgeon said he was a Flaming Liberal but listened to Ronald Reagan and became a Conservative. Does anyone know when Carson started believing that the Earth is 6000 years old?

Code: [Select]
been meaning to correct this.. he doesn't believe it is 6000 years old
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
Picture of Ben Carson with Jesus that he has in his fucking house. WTF :o I think Black Velvet would have really set this picture off nicely.

http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carsons-home-eerie-homage-195358324.html

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTOQZ_oWwAAiNpc.png)
A black Jesus no less. ROFLMAO
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
A black Jesus no less. ROFLMAO

More and more shit coming out about Carson. Black Jesus isn't gonna make it.lol
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 07, 2015, 03:45:00 PM
More and more shit coming out about Carson. Black Jesus isn't gonna make it.lol

He's every bit as dumb as Sarah Palin. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 03:45:46 PM
Look at this shit in his house. LOLOLOL

(http://i66.tinypic.com/xbg76s.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 03:46:18 PM
Imagine hanging this in your home. A wannbe Cult leader. This picture is begging to be Tbombed.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTOBz86UwAAqwtX.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 07, 2015, 03:46:38 PM
Look at this shit in his house. LOLOLOL

(http://i66.tinypic.com/xbg76s.jpg)

What's the difference between God and Santa Claus?

Nothing, they are both figments of ones imagination.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 03:47:56 PM
(http://4ca.org/imgtemp/jesus/136.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 07, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
"On the other hand, Carson's supporters will probably see the photos as more evidence that the legendary neurosurgeon is a very accomplished person and dedicated Christian"

From the article... no doubt true... but the funny one that had proverbs misspelled... priceless...
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 03:54:25 PM
Look at this shit in his house. LOLOLOL

(http://i66.tinypic.com/xbg76s.jpg)

lol

(http://i66.tinypic.com/xbg76s.jpg)(http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/sarah-palin-006.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
"On the other hand, Carson's supporters will probably see the photos as more evidence that the legendary neurosurgeon is a very accomplished person and dedicated Christian"

From the article... no doubt true... but the funny one that had proverbs misspelled... priceless...
You can't make this shit up.  This guy has such a low IQ bordering on Rainman status.

Between the lies and all of this, he has something seriously wrong with his brain.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 03:56:54 PM
The funny thing is that he has yet to notice "Poverbs" on the wall.  He even invited reporters to take pictures of it.  How embarrassing.

That is some shit Coach would have scrawled on his gym walls or on a T-Shirt.  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 03:59:13 PM
"I really did try to beat my mother up side the head with an hammer." Ben Carson 2016
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 04:00:23 PM
they are perfectly happy announcing "george soros is brilliant with money, but a dumbass on politics".

But the reverse is true with repubs.  
Ben carson is a brilliant surgeon, therefore he also has to be brilliant with politics, history, science, pyramids, etc.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 04:01:42 PM
"I really did try to beat my mother up side the head with an hammer." Ben Carson 2016

the base LOVES that shit.   They resent their mothers for being whores.

THESE are the people Carson is targeting:
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 04:02:43 PM
they are perfectly happy announcing "george soros is brilliant with money, but a dumbass on politics".

But the reverse is true with repubs.  
Ben carson is a brilliant surgeon, therefore he also has to be brilliant with politics, history, science, pyramids, etc.
No he wasn't.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 07, 2015, 04:04:24 PM
Look at this shit in his house. LOLOLOL

(http://i66.tinypic.com/xbg76s.jpg)

Das sum poverbs, yo!
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 04:10:33 PM
No he wasn't.

i apologize.   you are correct.  I thought he was thie amazing surgeon.  Now I'm reading all these patients whose lives he ruined.  Wow.



“I regret ever having met him,” Karly Bailey tells TheWrap

A former patient of Ben Carson, the retired neursurgeon and GOP presidential candidate, claims he is a “liar” who ruined her life by botching surgery on her brain tumor. “I regret ever having met him,” Karly Bailey told TheWrap. “I wish I didn’t.”

Bailey, who was 9 years old when she went under Carson’s knife in 1995, claimed the future candidate went against her family’s wishes by removing her brain tumor in its entirety, despite her parents’ repeated demands that the growth be only partially removed due to its proximity to the brain stem.

“I made the worst decision of my life when I agreed to let him operate on my daughter,” her father, John Bailey, told TheWrap.

According to the family, the operation left Karly, now 27, paralyzed on her right side and suffering from vertical nystagmus, which causes severe dizziness. When she finally went back to school after more than seven months of intense rehab, she was so disfigured that she was bullied by fellow students.

“She was called a freak because of her face,” John Bailey said. “She had to learn how to write with her left hand.”

Bailey also alleged that Carson made numerous “misstatements” of medical facts in his sworn affidavit in an attempt to cover up his medical mistakes.

Carson’s representatives did not reply to TheWrap’s request for comment.

- See more at: https://www.thewrap.com/ben-carsons-former-patient-blasts-surgeon-for-ruining-her-life-hes-a-liar/#sthash.ZKUx0D23.dpuf
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
Two getbiggers that I can think of, defend Carson a ton... and they REFUSE to say if they believe the earth is about 6000 years old, or about 4 billion years old.

But ya know, 18% of the population believes it.  Isn't that nuts?  almost 1 in 5 people we see (at least, while traveling thru tennessee or arkansas) believe the sand on the beach wasn't there 6000 years ago.  They believe the grand canyon was just magically placed there, and was not a product of erosion.

Almost 1 in 5 lol.

I don't know but suspect he probably does not really believe in creationism. Which makes him disingenuous. However the same applies across the board... had there been an openly atheist president? I am not degrading religious people, just stating that to have to pretend to be religious to be elected is a pretense in a secular country that guarantees freedom of religion.

Ben Carson also has different ideas about that last point too.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 04:37:31 PM
I don't know but suspect he probably does not really believe in creationism. Which makes him disingenuous. However the same applies across the board... had there been an openly atheist president? I am not degrading religious people, just stating that to have to pretend to be religious to be elected is a pretense in a secular country that guarantees freedom of religion.

Ben Carson also has different ideas about that last point too.
Are you fucking stupid?  He has been a religious loon his entire life.  Look at all the nonsense in his house.  Read about his past.

You are a fucking moron if you think he is not a religious lunatic.  That makes you dumber than he is. LOLOL
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 07, 2015, 04:41:59 PM
i apologize.   you are correct.  I thought he was thie amazing surgeon.  Now I'm reading all these patients whose lives he ruined.  Wow.



“I regret ever having met him,” Karly Bailey tells TheWrap

A former patient of Ben Carson, the retired neursurgeon and GOP presidential candidate, claims he is a “liar” who ruined her life by botching surgery on her brain tumor. “I regret ever having met him,” Karly Bailey told TheWrap. “I wish I didn’t.”

Bailey, who was 9 years old when she went under Carson’s knife in 1995, claimed the future candidate went against her family’s wishes by removing her brain tumor in its entirety, despite her parents’ repeated demands that the growth be only partially removed due to its proximity to the brain stem.

“I made the worst decision of my life when I agreed to let him operate on my daughter,” her father, John Bailey, told TheWrap.

According to the family, the operation left Karly, now 27, paralyzed on her right side and suffering from vertical nystagmus, which causes severe dizziness. When she finally went back to school after more than seven months of intense rehab, she was so disfigured that she was bullied by fellow students.

“She was called a freak because of her face,” John Bailey said. “She had to learn how to write with her left hand.”

Bailey also alleged that Carson made numerous “misstatements” of medical facts in his sworn affidavit in an attempt to cover up his medical mistakes.

Carson’s representatives did not reply to TheWrap’s request for comment.

- See more at: https://www.thewrap.com/ben-carsons-former-patient-blasts-surgeon-for-ruining-her-life-hes-a-liar/#sthash.ZKUx0D23.dpuf

Just playing devils advocate here, if you are undergoing major surgery, there are risks. Not saying we won't see a shit ton of Carson stickers being scraped off of cars here shortly, just that brain surgery is some risky stuff.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 04:47:17 PM
Just playing devils advocate here, if you are undergoing major surgery, there are risks. Not saying we won't see a shit ton of Carson stickers being scraped off of cars here shortly, just that brain surgery is some risky stuff.
Especially when its performed by a half-witted moron who only got to where he is by the color of his skin and the fact that everyone has been afraid to call out his lies his entire life....until now.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: polychronopolous on November 07, 2015, 04:59:18 PM
Eh, fuck him and his pathetic white guilt.

I agree, it is just a little humorous seeing Mr. Super Dixie Southern Man TA going around calling everybody stupid when he supports some Northeastern Vermont guy who wants destroy his own heritage he holds so dear in order to score some cheap political gain.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 05:03:49 PM
Just playing devils advocate here, if you are undergoing major surgery, there are risks. Not saying we won't see a shit ton of Carson stickers being scraped off of cars here shortly, just that brain surgery is some risky stuff.

he was sued at least 8 times for malpractice.
Only 7% of doctors receive a lawsuit each year for it.
He was a doc for 25 years, but much of that time was admin role or doing research on aborted tissue.
Therefore 8 lawsuits in that amount of time, well, that's very very high.

I apologize for everyone I was rude to, while I was pointing out he was a good doctor.  Turns out, according to the lawsuits, he was a very terrible doctor.  Sorry
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 07, 2015, 05:03:54 PM
Picture of Ben Carson with Jesus that he has in his fucking house. WTF :o I think Black Velvet would have really set this picture off nicely.

http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carsons-home-eerie-homage-195358324.html

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTOQZ_oWwAAiNpc.png)

Jesus in a Bathrobe??



POVERBS YO of PEACE!
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 05:10:08 PM
Ben Carson was awesome last night.

In that case, I'm guessing he wasn't performing surgery last night?



Ben Carson Was Sued for Malpractice at Least Eight Times

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/04/ben-carson-was-sued-for-malpractice-at-least-eight-times.html

Nationally, 7% of physicians have a malpractice suit each year.

Statistically, one doctor receiving (at least) 8 malpractice suits over a 25 year career would already be very bad, but a nice chunk of that time was dedicated to doing research on aborted tissue, well, that's even worse.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on November 07, 2015, 05:10:57 PM
this shit is too fucking funny.

Coach is on suicide watch
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
Coach is on suicide watch

Actually, politico was wrong about a headline last night, and looked stupid for 4 horus before Carson went on FOX news and vincidated them by denying he ever claimed he was offered a scholarship.  They claimed his team admitted a lie - he did them one BETTER by going on national TV and actually lying in front of everyone.

but for those 4 hours, they had their win.   They said things like "Ben Carson was awesome last night. " and "#VINDICATED"

Sure, today they wake up, they still have a frontrunner who many say has flirted with stolen valor by lying about military scholarship when there was none.  But hey, they had that moment in the sun, on a friday afternoon, when politico was wrong and carson hadn't yet opened his mouth to do his daily self-damage.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 07, 2015, 05:23:56 PM
Especially when its performed by a half-witted moron who only got to where he is by the color of his skin and the fact that everyone has been afraid to call out his lies his entire life....until now.

Yes. The floodgates have opened and now it will be people coming out of the woodwork to pile on. I do believe it's over for him.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on November 07, 2015, 05:27:56 PM
Yes. The floodgates have opened and now it will be people coming out of the woodwork to pile on. I do believe it's over for him.

I can't fathom that he is actually a surgeon, he seems so stupid. There is something more to this me tinks. He is a clear pathological liar, I wonder how insane he actually is.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 06:00:13 PM
I agree, it is just a little humorous seeing Mr. Super Dixie Southern Man TA going around calling everybody stupid when he supports some Northeastern Vermont guy who wants destroy his own heritage he holds so dear in order to score some cheap political gain.

True. Different brands of pitiful is all.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 06:02:34 PM
Yes. The floodgates have opened and now it will be people coming out of the woodwork to pile on. I do believe it's over for him.

carson talks about how he rescued white students during race riots and hid them in the school science lab.

wall street journal did a nice interview with students (yes, they dug up records) and the physics teacher.  NONE of them recall carson being there or doing the heroics he claimed.  Sounds like a good story he cooked up? 

They all have similar detailed accounts of it.  Very scary day, many of them remember tons of details.   
But none remember a young, heroic student swooping in to rescue white students from harm.   

All of these little exaggerations are coming back to bite him now.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 06:05:14 PM
hes jewish

Indeed, very.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 06:10:12 PM
True. Different brands of pitiful is all.
::)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 06:14:32 PM
Are you fucking stupid?  He has been a religious loon his entire life.  Look at all the nonsense in his house.  Read about his past.

You are a fucking moron if you think he is not a religious lunatic.  That makes you dumber than he is. LOLOL

First off, no I did not research the past statements of a possible candidate among what - 17 Republicans - in a foreign country with 2 parties and probably 20+ presidential candidates. Secondly, I said that anyone who is an accomplished neurosurgeon must surely have the intelligence to know that the earth is not younger than monuments in Europe or Africa. It just seems incongruent to use science yet ignore basic scientific facts.

Following on, how much could you tell me about Irish, English or European politics? How about Aussie, Chinese or Japanese? Could I call you a fucking moron for not knowing Yvette Cooper supported reducing the age of consent to 12 in the UK in the 70s? She is in the opposition in UK government... you should know these things or you're a fucking moron right?

Idiot.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
First off, no I did not research the past statements of a possible candidate among what - 17 Republicans - in a foreign country with 2 parties and probably 20+ presidential candidates. Secondly, I said that anyone who is an accomplished neurosurgeon must surely have the intelligence to know that the earth is not younger than monuments in Europe or Africa. It just seems incongruent to use science yet ignore basic scientific facts.

Following on, how much could you tell me about Irish, English or European politics? How about Aussie, Chinese or Japanese? Could I call you a fucking moron for not knowing Yvette Cooper supported reducing the age of consent to 12 in the UK in the 70s? She is in the opposition in UK government... you should know these things or you're a fucking moron right?

Idiot.
1.  Doctors are not very intelligent.  I personally know many very religious people who are well respected doctors.  Doctors are not pinnacles of intelligence at all.

2.  If I wanted to learn about them, the information is out there.  You willfully choose not to educate yourself on something despite commenting on it.  That is YOUR problem. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 06:27:45 PM
Yes. The floodgates have opened and now it will be people coming out of the woodwork to pile on. I do believe it's over for him.

Yes. I think Carson has reached his Cosby moment...
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 06:28:52 PM
1.  Doctors are not very intelligent.  I personally know many very religious people who are well respected doctors.  Doctors are not pinnacles of intelligence at all.

2.  If I wanted to learn about them, the information is out there.  You willfully choose not to educate yourself on something despite commenting on it.  That is YOUR problem. 

When you get cancer, hopefully a brain tumour to prevent these posts, I hope you enjoy benefitting from a doctor who studied for 7 years or so and probably specialised in the field... and turns you down saying "this brain is not worth saving - the corpse also looks nothing like he claimed online".

Being religious and being intelligent are not incompatible by the way. I am an atheist but have no issue with people with religious values unless it impedes on what I believe to be human rights. Arabs invented algebra and one of the founders of probability theory gave it up as he said he would rather repent gambling (or probability suggesting maths of gambling) than eternal damnation.

I think you have your mind set on disagreeing with me (fine)... calling me stupid repeatedly when your replies show you as mentally inferior to me shows you as the moronic fraud that you are famed as here.

See your responses to my posts (reactionary and one dimensional) versus my responses (reasoned and measured with actual line of reasoning as opposed to "disagree no matter what...").

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 06:29:43 PM
When you get cancer, hopefully a brain tumour to prevent these posts, I hope you enjoy benefitting from a doctor who studied for 7 years or so and probably specialised in the field... and turns you down saying "this brain is not worth saving - the corpse also looks nothing like he claimed online".

Being religious and being intelligent are not incompatible by the way. I am an atheist but have no issue with people with religious values unless it impedes on what I believe to be human rights. Arabs invented algebra and one of the founders of probability theory gave it up as he said he would rather repent gambling (or probability suggesting maths of gambling) than eternal damnation.

I think you have your mind set on disagreeing with me (fine)... calling me stupid repeatedly when your replies show you as mentally inferior to me shows you as the moronic fraud that you are famed as here.

See your responses to my posts (reactionary and one dimensional) versus my responses (reasoned and measured with actual line of reasoning as opposed to "disagree no matter what...").


Correct.  I do not like you.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 07, 2015, 06:41:09 PM
Bernie Sanders does not and has never done so.

Are you supporting Bernie Sanders? If not, who do you support?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2015, 06:51:15 PM
In that case, I'm guessing he wasn't performing surgery last night?



Ben Carson Was Sued for Malpractice at Least Eight Times

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/04/ben-carson-was-sued-for-malpractice-at-least-eight-times.html

Nationally, 7% of physicians have a malpractice suit each year.

Statistically, one doctor receiving (at least) 8 malpractice suits over a 25 year career would already be very bad, but a nice chunk of that time was dedicated to doing research on aborted tissue, well, that's even worse.

17,000 surgeries in his career. Lmao. Stop, please just stop. The left double standard is killing me...(legit) hahahahahahahahahha!

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/511085
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 06:53:58 PM
Correct.  I do cannot like argue your points on an intellectual level because I am mentally inferior to you.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 07, 2015, 06:54:13 PM
Are you supporting Bernie Sanders? If not, who do you support?
Bernie Sanders
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: polychronopolous on November 07, 2015, 06:54:30 PM
::)

You support a man who wants to destroy your own heritage.

What kind of scab ass shit is that?

Here comes your hero, TA. The 1866 Reconstruction Carpetbagger fresh off the train ready to rape The South for his own benefit.

Probably would have been the first to get on your knees and lick his boots clean.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Carpetbagger.jpg/220px-Carpetbagger.jpg)

(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-the-scab-is-a-traitor-to-his-god-his-mother-and-his-class-jack-london-114192.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 07, 2015, 06:56:03 PM
Bernie Sanders

Hahahahaha.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 07:06:17 PM
Bernie Sanders

You bave to be fucking trolling?  I know the democrat base is weak but really?

You go bitching about Europe being weak and pussified etc in a thread on immigration then in another thread you say you would vote for a socialist who would advocate the same policies you derided in that same thread. So the EU is a weak pussified organisation of socialists yet you would vote in a socialist with similar ideals?

Wiggs, Marty, and Coach... sorry for deriding you all as retards before. I did not know such stupidity existed until i read this.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 07:15:01 PM
You bave to be fucking trolling?  I know the democrat base is weak but really?

You go bitching about Europe being weak and pussified etc in a thread on immigration then in another thread you say you would vote for a socialist who would advocate the same policies you derided in that same thread. So the EU is a weak pussified organisation of socialists yet you would vote in a socialist with similar ideals?

Wiggs, Marty, and Coach... sorry for deriding you all as retards before. I did not know such stupidity existed until i read this.

What, you don't find Bernie, uh, formidable?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 07, 2015, 07:20:31 PM
Bernie Sanders

I have to admit, I don't know much about Sanders other than he is an avowed Socialist, at least according to the media. Because of that I summarily dismissed him. So since all I know about him is from what I read, admittedly from primarily conservative sources, I'll keep an open mind and would be very interested as to knowing why you support him.

Take your time because I realize this may require an involved reply.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 07:21:19 PM
What, you don't find Bernie, uh, formidable?

Nearly as embarrassing as our president (Michael D Higgins) who is not only a socialist but could also pass for Bilbo Baggins. Luckily our president only cuts the ribbons at flower shows and makes speeches to crowds of 5 people and has no real power.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 07, 2015, 07:42:58 PM
wise words from a conservative viewpoint - he said it way better than I could

I have already heard Carson lie about Mannatech, a company he made an hour long PBS special for, numerous speeches and videos, and he even credited them with funding his $2.5 million endowment chair at Johns Hopkins. When they became a liability, he denied having a relationship with them.

He clearly meant his readers to believe he was offered a post at West Point, when he was never offered such a post, which is done through a process of application, nomination and acceptance by formal letter. The most that happened was that he was encouraged to apply, which he did not,
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 07:45:42 PM
wise words from a conservative viewpoint - he said it way better than I could

I have already heard Carson lie about Mannatech, a company he made an hour long PBS special for, numerous speeches and videos, and he even credited them with funding his $2.5 million endowment chair at Johns Hopkins. When they became a liability, he denied having a relationship with them.

He clearly meant his readers to believe he was offered a post at West Point, when he was never offered such a post, which is done through a process of application, nomination and acceptance by formal letter. The most that happened was that he was encouraged to apply, which he did not,

Who is the "he" you refer to? He is either a liar or a moron, likely the former.

I haven't seen any of the debates, doubt I missed much, but they are on at 4/5am here.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 07, 2015, 07:59:31 PM
carson talks about how he rescued white students during race riots and hid them in the school science lab.

wall street journal did a nice interview with students (yes, they dug up records) and the physics teacher.  NONE of them recall carson being there or doing the heroics he claimed.  Sounds like a good story he cooked up? 

They all have similar detailed accounts of it.  Very scary day, many of them remember tons of details.   
But none remember a young, heroic student swooping in to rescue white students from harm.   

All of these little exaggerations are coming back to bite him now.

In my book, even if he HAD done that.. to write about it and brag on it takes any kudos away. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 07, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
In my book, even if he HAD done that.. to write about it and brag on it takes any kudos away. 

He came from a poor background and was successful. Why does he need to lie about this shit? Surely that is the epitome of the American dream. I would be proud if i came from nothing and made it. Why add the lies about violence, how he would react to a gunman (who knows unless they have been there),  westpoint etc.

Say you made it on merit, believe in whatever  and go on that.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: polychronopolous on November 07, 2015, 08:25:40 PM
In my book, even if he HAD done that.. to write about it and brag on it takes any kudos away. 

Still collecting that pension off the taxpayers dime, parasite?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 07, 2015, 09:44:39 PM
Nearly as embarrassing as our president (Michael D Higgins) who is not only a socialist but could also pass for Bilbo Baggins. Luckily our president only cuts the ribbons at flower shows and makes speeches to crowds of 5 people and has no real power.

Yeah, socialism is where the Left plays pretend.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 07, 2015, 10:43:30 PM
A black Jesus no less. ROFLMAO

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on November 08, 2015, 03:36:05 AM
Who is the "he" you refer to? He is either a liar or a moron, likely the former.

I haven't seen any of the debates, doubt I missed much, but they are on at 4/5am here.

How do you objectively define a moron? I would imagine that the content of his thought and words would be a good indicator. This moron has POVERBS on his wall, POVERBS!

He believes the earth is 6000 years old and the pyramids were built to store grain (seems cost effective lololol)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 05:16:35 AM
Ben Carson is the stupidest smart person in Americant
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 07:41:28 AM
I remember in 2011/2012....

There were nearly a dozen women accusing Cain of being a womanizing whore.  He said he'd never done ANYTHING inapropriate in 43 years of marriage.  Yeah.

This is turning into that.  Outright caught in a few lies alrady.  More lies looking to emerge as very thin, way-too-convenient events in his life are remembered differently by those around him.  And the idiot things like the pyramids he seems to truly believe?

This IS hermann cain all over again.  Repubs are still picking over this or that lie - unwilling to just admit he's lied about a handful of things, and more are likely to emerge this week.  They'll celebrate one politico headline, but many of them who actually remember the hermann cain mess realize this is happening again.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 07:57:30 AM
Trump:
"Ben Carson has incurable pathological disease"


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/donald-trump-ben-carson-has-pathological-disease-you-cant-really-cure-it/
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 11:53:01 AM
I remember in 2011/2012....

There were nearly a dozen women accusing Cain of being a womanizing whore.  He said he'd never done ANYTHING inapropriate in 43 years of marriage.  Yeah.

This is turning into that.  Outright caught in a few lies alrady.  More lies looking to emerge as very thin, way-too-convenient events in his life are remembered differently by those around him.  And the idiot things like the pyramids he seems to truly believe?

This IS hermann cain all over again.  Repubs are still picking over this or that lie - unwilling to just admit he's lied about a handful of things, and more are likely to emerge this week.  They'll celebrate one politico headline, but many of them who actually remember the hermann cain mess realize this is happening again.
Black Republicans are a funny species.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 08, 2015, 12:19:54 PM
I get it Adonis. The only real blacks are Democrats. That is racist.  

What we are seeing is the liberal left leaning majority media doing hit pieces on any Republican so they can lead the sheep.  The majority press completely ignored everything Obama. His college grades were sealed so no one could see how bad they were. I could go on about all the questionable things in his back ground but it would take paragraphs.  Young people living in their mother's house think Democrats will take care of them with the tax money they take from workers.

Vote for Hillary. If you think it's bad now with ISIS, economy, Russia and having Muslim country on a clear path to Nuclear weapons you haven't seen anything yet.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 12:21:32 PM
I get it Adonis. The only real blacks are Democrats. That is racist. 

What we are seeing is the liberal left leaning majority media doing hit pieces on any Republican so they can lead the sheep.  The majority press completely ignored everything Obama. His college grades were sealed so no one could see how bad they were. I could go on about all the questionable things in his back ground but it would take paragraphs.  Young people living in their mother's house think Democrats will take care of them with the tax money they take from workers.


I really don't care what party they are to be honest with you. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 12:27:38 PM
I get it Adonis. The only real blacks are Democrats. That is racist.  

What we are seeing is the liberal left leaning majority media doing hit pieces on any Republican so they can lead the sheep.  The majority press completely ignored everything Obama. His college grades were sealed so no one could see how bad they were. I could go on about all the questionable things in his back ground but it would take paragraphs.  Young people living in their mother's house think Democrats will take care of them with the tax money they take from workers.

Vote for Hillary. If you think it's bad now with ISIS, economy, Russia and having Muslim country on a clear path to Nuclear weapons you haven't seen anything yet.




Adonis is a bigot. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 12:30:15 PM

Adonis is a bigot. Hope this helps.
Realist is the word I would use.

The Republican Party can have them if they want them. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 08, 2015, 03:43:59 PM
Trump:
"Ben Carson has incurable pathological disease"


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/donald-trump-ben-carson-has-pathological-disease-you-cant-really-cure-it/

Good quote. This Trump sounds smart, we should all probably vote for him.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 03:58:14 PM
How do you objectively define a moron? I would imagine that the content of his thought and words would be a good indicator. This moron has POVERBS on his wall, POVERBS!

He believes the earth is 6000 years old and the pyramids were built to store grain (seems cost effective lololol)

Someone who has the brains to know/understand facts and ignores/rejects them despite overwhelming evidence. A mentally disabled person isn't a moron. They cannot understand. A neurosurgeon can understand when he is making shit up, and must surely have some scientific knowledge to dispute creationism yet cognitively ignores this information or... more likely... is a liar appealing to a voting group.

Does he honestly believe pyramids were built to store grain? Guess it is a coincidence that ancient burial grounds here (Newgrange is best example - constructed 1000 years BEFORE pyramids) happen to have chambers that only illuminate in the winster solstace on December 21st. Humankind is almost unique in its recognition of respect for the dead, hence pyramids, burial sites here and all over globe - yet this so called religious person denigrates this respect by espousing stupid theories on pyramids. Does he believe in bigfoot or think dinosaur fossils were put here to test out faith?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 04:08:00 PM
Someone who has the brains to know/understand facts and ignores/rejects them despite overwhelming evidence. A mentally disabled person isn't a moron. They cannot understand. A neurosurgeon can understand when he is making shit up, and must surely have some scientific knowledge to dispute creationism yet cognitively ignores this information or... more likely... is a liar appealing to a voting group.

Does he honestly believe pyramids were built to store grain? Guess it is a coincidence that ancient burial grounds here (Newgrange is best example - constructed 1000 years BEFORE pyramids) happen to have chambers that only illuminate in the winster solstace on December 21st. Humankind is almost unique in its recognition of respect for the dead, hence pyramids, burial sites here and all over globe - yet this so called religious person denigrates this respect by espousing stupid theories on pyramids. Does he believe in bigfoot or think dinosaur fossils were put here to test out faith?
Ben Carson believes the pyramids were built by Joseph from the bible to store grain.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 04:09:51 PM
Someone who has the brains to know/understand facts and ignores/rejects them despite overwhelming evidence. A mentally disabled person isn't a moron. They cannot understand. A neurosurgeon can understand when he is making shit up, and must surely have some scientific knowledge to dispute creationism yet cognitively ignores this information or... more likely... is a liar appealing to a voting group.

Does he honestly believe pyramids were built to store grain? Guess it is a coincidence that ancient burial grounds here (Newgrange is best example - constructed 1000 years BEFORE pyramids) happen to have chambers that only illuminate in the winster solstace on December 21st. Humankind is almost unique in its recognition of respect for the dead, hence pyramids, burial sites here and all over globe - yet this so called religious person denigrates this respect by espousing stupid theories on pyramids. Does he believe in bigfoot or think dinosaur fossils were put here to test out faith?
Ben Carson is mentally disabled.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
Realist is the word I would use.

The Republican Party can have them if they want them. 


You are misusing the word because you're a simpleton.

Keep swimming and telling everyone you're a bodybuilder who eats ice cream.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 04:12:38 PM

You are misusing the word because you're a simpleton.

Keep swimming and telling everyone you're a bodybuilder who eats ice cream.
Ok, dumbass.  I will.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 04:17:10 PM
On political board, nobody will defend carson.  They just want to attack politico.

they know the dude is a lying piece of trash - they just love hating on the media for jumping to a headline, 4 horus before carson confirmed it himself.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 04:23:34 PM
Memorial Day 1969


Friday evening, Carson lambasted Politico during a press conference for allegedly publishing an “outright lie” about his West Point story. Carson defended his wobbly story by saying that he interpreted an informal offer from Gen. William Westmoreland after a dinner together as an offer for a full scholarship. In his book “Gifted Hands”, Carson claimed this dinner took place after marching in a Memorial Day parade.

But the General was not even in Michigan let alone Detroit on Memorial Day or the days before or after it, according to the Detroit News.

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson’s published account of having dinner with a top commander in the Vietnam War after marching in a Memorial Day parade in 1969 as a high school ROTC cadet in Detroit does not match historical records.
In Carson’s 1990 best-selling autobiography, “Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story,” the neurosurgeon tells of being offered a scholarship to West Point as a high school senior sometime after having dinner with the U.S. Army’s chief of staff, Gen. William Westmoreland, on Memorial Day 1969.

But Westmoreland’s personal schedule shows the general was not in Detroit on Memorial Day or during the days preceding and following the holiday. His schedule says he was in and around Washington, D.C., that weekend, according to Army archives The Detroit News reviewed Friday.

Even if Carson’s excuse for his first inaccuracy about being offered admission to West Point were true, it would still be inaccurate, as the Politico story explained that West Point doesn’t offer full scholarships and one doesn’t get an offer over dinner – a member of Congress usually nominates an individual and then that person is deeply vetted (they must vet more than the Republican Party).
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
On political board, nobody will defend carson.  They just want to attack politico.

they know the dude is a lying piece of trash - they just love hating on the media for jumping to a headline, 4 horus before carson confirmed it himself.

This is what i think is the shittiest thing about US politics... fuck it most western democracies. People lie about viewpoints and religious beliefs etc to cater to voting bases/funding . Like i said, no openly atheiest US presidents. Why? You will lose votes in the south. Same as in UK you have to demonise the EU on the one hand while making 40% plus of gdp trading there tariff free.

Donald Trump is doing well so far, despite being a terrible presidential candidate, because he actually says what he thinks. Of course he has backtracked here and there but... imagine him brokering a deal with china and russia? Would he be a realist/compromise? You cannot file insolvency for failed political ventures like he has failed in so many businesses and remain unscathed.

If carson said what he actually believed same as most of them should you would at least know what/who you are voting for.  I just find it hard to believe he really is a creationist and the other lies re violence what he would do in a mass shooting etc make him look more confused and unable to be president.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 04:30:41 PM
Ok, dumbass.  I will.


Outstanding comeback. Thanks for demonstrating the wit that keeps the trannies coming back to you again and again.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
Ben Carson was awesome last night.

Not so much tonight... In his own words, he admits his books about his life aren't accurate.


Ben Carson: My biography isn’t ‘100 percent accurate’ — but ‘none of the things are lies’

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/dr-ben-carson-brushes-more-controversy-n459431
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-my-biography-isnt-100-percent-accurate-but-none-of-the-things-are-lies/

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Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 04:36:09 PM
This is what i think is the shittiest thing about US politics... fuck it most western democracies. People lie about viewpoints and religious beliefs etc to cater to voting bases/funding . Like i said, no openly atheiest US presidents. Why? You will lose votes in the south. Same as in UK you have to demonise the EU on the one hand while making 40% plus of gdp trading there tariff free.

Donald Trump is doing well so far, despite being a terrible presidential candidate, because he actually says what he thinks. Of course he has backtracked here and there but... imagine him brokering a deal with china and russia? Would he be a realist/compromise? You cannot file insolvency for failed political ventures like he has failed in so many businesses and remain unscathed.

If carson said what he actually believed same as most of them should you would at least know what/who you are voting for.  I just find it hard to believe he really is a creationist and the other lies re violence what he would do in a mass shooting etc make him look more confused and unable to be president.
Then you are an even bigger moron than he is.  Why would you make excuses for someone who has held these beliefs his entire life as all evidence shows?

Guess you want to be like Ben Carson and refuse to believe evidence and primary sources.   ???
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
I wonder which parts of his life story, of the amazing story that turned him from violent stabber into pyramid historian, weren't accurate.

And what the f is the difference between "some of the things I said weren't accurate" and "some of the things I said weren't true".  
 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 04:38:29 PM
He either doesn't believe in biology - Or he's a liar.

From his recent admission that his books aren't accurate - even though he repeatedly said they were -

I tend to think he knows full well the sand on the beach is way order than 6000 years old... BUT he knows that 18% of people are literal idiots. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 04:41:23 PM
Then you are an even bigger moron than he is.  Why would you make excuses for someone who has held these beliefs his entire life as all evidence shows?

Guess you want to be like Ben Carson and refuse to believe evidence and primary sources.   ???


The longer you believe in creationism the dumber you are.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 04:50:25 PM
Then you are an even bigger moron than he is.  Why would you make excuses for someone who has held these beliefs his entire life as all evidence shows?

Guess you want to be like Ben Carson and refuse to believe evidence and primary sources.   ???

No, I just see it as massively incoherent to believe in a 6000 year old earth (whatever it is they believe) yet have the scientific knowledge to perform neurosurgey. It isn't brain surgery to see they do not go hand in hand.

I'm saying he is a liar more than anything.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 08, 2015, 04:53:16 PM
Anyone know who the biggest RINO is? Still in the race, I mean.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 04:53:26 PM
No, I just see it as massively incoherent to believe in a 6000 year old earth (whatever it is they believe) yet have the scientific knowledge to perform neurosurgey. It isn't brain surgery to see they do not go hand in hand.

I'm saying he is a liar more than anything.


Americant education system in action
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 08, 2015, 04:56:58 PM

Americant education system in action

Can't what?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
No, I just see it as massively incoherent to believe in a 6000 year old earth (whatever it is they believe) yet have the scientific knowledge to perform neurosurgey. It isn't brain surgery to see they do not go hand in hand.

I'm saying he is a liar more than anything.

agreed he's more of a liar.

evolution is the basis for biology.
Biology is the basis for medicine.

it's very difficult to imagine being as brilliant as he was about the intricate parts of the brain, while still having no awareness of brain evolution over centuries and thousands of years.

More likely - as in the the ADMITTED case of his book - just "not true".  He tells lies when convenient.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 08, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
I really don't care what party they are to be honest with you. 

Have you ever voted for a Republican?

Also, are you able to answer my previous question as to why you support Bernie Sanders?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:02:33 PM
No, I just see it as massively incoherent to believe in a 6000 year old earth (whatever it is they believe) yet have the scientific knowledge to perform neurosurgey. It isn't brain surgery to see they do not go hand in hand.

I'm saying he is a liar more than anything.
And you are wrong.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:05:33 PM
agreed he's more of a liar.

evolution is the basis for biology.
Biology is the basis for medicine.

it's very difficult to imagine being as brilliant as he was about the intricate parts of the brain, while still having no awareness of brain evolution over centuries and thousands of years.

More likely - as in the the ADMITTED case of his book - just "not true".  He tells lies when convenient.
Jesus Christ, why are you trying to cover up the fact that he is a moron and has been his entire life?  He really does believe those things.  He even has shrines to Jesus all over his house and has been ultra religious his entire life, before politics or anything.

Its almost as if you people want him to be something he is not.   ???

Furthermore, you can easily be a doctor and not believe in science, evolution or any of those things.  MANY MANY MANY doctors out there just like that.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
Have you ever voted for a Republican?

Also, are you able to answer my previous question as to why you support Bernie Sanders?


Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 08, 2015, 05:15:39 PM
Jesus Christ, why are you trying to cover up the fact that he is a moron and has been his entire life?  He really does believe those things.  He even has shrines to Jesus all over his house and has been ultra religious his entire life, before politics or anything.

Its almost as if you people want him to be something he is not.   ???

Furthermore, you can easily be a doctor and not believe in science, evolution or any of those things.  MANY MANY MANY doctors out there just like that.

240 has an agenda. Knows Rs won't find Carson's religious beliefs/ignorance all that troubling, but they maybe won't like a liar. So "liar" is his angle here.

See, he don't really care about baby earth and shitty science so much; he supports Cruz, who believes the same thing as Carson.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:17:14 PM


Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 05:20:55 PM
Jesus Christ, why are you trying to cover up the fact that he is a moron and has been his entire life?  He really does believe those things.  He even has shrines to Jesus all over his house and has been ultra religious his entire life, before politics or anything.

Its almost as if you people want him to be something he is not.   ???

Furthermore, you can easily be a doctor and not believe in science, evolution or any of those things.  MANY MANY MANY doctors out there just like that.

You are that fucking stubborn in disagreeing with my point (which started off agreeing that he is an idiot but it is a political showpiece) that you have no problem contradicting yourself in the same sentence. You cannot be a doctor and not believe in science. That is what fucking witchdoctors and quacks do. He opened people's heads and fixed their brains. That is not easy, and requires scientific knowledge. Stop being such a stubborn cu nt and you might not get such abuse on the forum.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Red Hook on November 08, 2015, 05:23:22 PM
The problem with politics is that it's an all of nothing proposition! If you are a republican then nothing a democrat says has validity and vice-versa. Whereas we should be taking the best ideas from both sides and implementing them. Everyone has this mentality "Ok, let's fix America, as long as it doesn't affect my quality and standard of life"

- currently 1/2 of every tax dollar is spent on the military.  Any politician mentioning this will disappear faster than Uncle Joon in his mom's basement.



As Wiggs said, no politician can "fix" America.. it will take a complete breakdown and collapse before we accept change.








Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 08, 2015, 05:26:36 PM
The problem with politics is that it's an all of nothing proposition! If you are a republican then nothing a democrat says has validity and vice-versa. Whereas we should be taking the best ideas from both sides and implementing them. Everyone has this mentality "Ok, let's fix America, as long as it doesn't affect my quality and standard of life"

- currently 1/2 of every tax dollar is spent on the military.  Any politician mentioning this will disappear faster than Uncle Joon in his mom's basement.



As Wiggs said, no politician can "fix" America.. it will take a complete breakdown and collapse before we accept change.


Dude, can't do this if you wanna be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:30:25 PM
Ann Coulter loves Bernie!

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:32:53 PM
You are that fucking stubborn in disagreeing with my point (which started off agreeing that he is an idiot but it is a political showpiece) that you have no problem contradicting yourself in the same sentence. You cannot be a doctor and not believe in science. That is what fucking witchdoctors and quacks do. He opened people's heads and fixed their brains. That is not easy, and requires scientific knowledge. Stop being such a stubborn cu nt and you might not get such abuse on the forum.
Oh Really moron?

http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/050714/doctorsfaith--.shtml

Survey on physicians’ religious beliefs shows majority faithful
By John Easton
Medical Center Public Affairs

The first study of physician religious beliefs has found that 76 percent of doctors believe in God and 59 percent believe in some sort of afterlife. The survey, performed by researchers at the University and published in the July issue of the Journal of General Internal Medicine, found that 90 percent of doctors in the United States attend religious services at least occasionally, compared to 81 percent of all adults. Fifty-five percent of doctors say their religious beliefs influence how they practice medicine.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 05:34:12 PM
Can't what?


Can't anything.


America sucks

Its a pimple on the ass of history.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:36:12 PM
You are that fucking stubborn in disagreeing with my point (which started off agreeing that he is an idiot but it is a political showpiece) that you have no problem contradicting yourself in the same sentence. You cannot be a doctor and not believe in science. That is what fucking witchdoctors and quacks do. He opened people's heads and fixed their brains. That is not easy, and requires scientific knowledge. Stop being such a stubborn cu nt and you might not get such abuse on the forum.
Here you go dunce cap,
Most Doctors believe in God, afterlife.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8318894/ns/health-health_care/t/survey-most-doctors-believe-god-afterlife/#.Vj_4Ir-nZGY

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:38:48 PM
You are that fucking stubborn in disagreeing with my point (which started off agreeing that he is an idiot but it is a political showpiece) that you have no problem contradicting yourself in the same sentence. You cannot be a doctor and not believe in science. That is what fucking witchdoctors and quacks do. He opened people's heads and fixed their brains. That is not easy, and requires scientific knowledge. Stop being such a stubborn cu nt and you might not get such abuse on the forum.
Want some more Dunce Cap?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/17/health/17faith.html

Most Doctors See Religion as Beneficial, Study Says

Fewer than 10 percent of doctors interviewed had no religious affiliation.

 :o  :o  :o  :o

Over all, only 1 percent believed that religion has a negative effect on health, and 2 percent said it has no influence one way or the other. But 54 percent said God sometimes affects a patient’s health, and 33 percent said religion and spirituality help prevent specific medical events like heart attacks, infections and death.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 05:41:35 PM
The problem with politics is that it's an all of nothing proposition! If you are a republican then nothing a democrat says has validity and vice-versa. Whereas we should be taking the best ideas from both sides and implementing them. Everyone has this mentality "Ok, let's fix America, as long as it doesn't affect my quality and standard of life"

- currently 1/2 of every tax dollar is spent on the military.  Any politician mentioning this will disappear faster than Uncle Joon in his mom's basement.



As Wiggs said, no politician can "fix" America.. it will take a complete breakdown and collapse before we accept change.











A quick search reveals majority of tax is spent on healthcare, social security etc beofre milirary, transportation etc.

@ Adonis

http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/050714/doctorsfaith--.shtml

I am sure a university newspaper can be trusted. Of course a higher percentage of those that believe in God attend religious services... unless you include atheists attending religious funerals/baptisms etc... (social etiquette).

You also forgot to include:

Quote
Although doctors are more likely than the general population to attend religious services, they are less willing to “apply their religious beliefs to other areas of life,” the researchers found. Sixty-one percent of doctors say they “try to make sense” of a difficult situation and “decide what to do without relying on God,” while only 29 percent of the general population say the same.

as well as

Quote
author Farr Curlin.... The next step, said Curlin, who describes himself as an “orthodox Christian in the Protestant tradition,” is to begin to look at how doctors’ religious (or secular) beliefs and values might influence the way they care for patients.

Let's try not post biased, shitty sources shall we?

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/03/doctor-not-chaplain-how-a-deeply-religious-surgeon-general-taught-a-nation-about-hiv/273665/

Doctor, Not Chaplain: How a Deeply Religious Surgeon General Taught a Nation About HIV

 C. Everett Koop

To be sure, Koop brought a reputation for boldness, first evidenced when he became surgeon in chief of Children's Hospital in Philadelphia shortly after finishing his residency. When Reagan nominated him, 35 years later, Koop had stellar credentials as a pediatric surgeon. In one of the thousands of complex operations he performed, he separated conjoined twins connected at the heart, knowing that only one child could survive.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 08, 2015, 05:43:56 PM

Can't anything.


America sucks

Its a pimple on the ass of history.

Ahh, bitter revisionist.

How come, then, we're not discussing this on a site from your country? Using technology from your country? About a pastime your country made popular?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 08, 2015, 05:44:25 PM
Lol

Reading stories about successful religious people is like reading about successful retards.

Just because you can make a bird feeder.... doesn't mean you're not fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:46:07 PM

A quick search reveals majority of tax is spent on healthcare, social security etc beofre milirary, transportation etc.

@ Adonis

http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/050714/doctorsfaith--.shtml

I am sure a university newspaper can be trusted. Of course a higher percentage of those that believe in God attend religious services... unless you include atheists attending religious funerals/baptisms etc... (social etiquette).

You also forgot to include:

as well as

Let's try not post biased, shitty sources shall we?


You are one dumb son of a bitch, really.

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Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:48:59 PM
Lol

Reading stories about successful religious people is like reading about successful retards.

Just because you can make a bird feeder.... doesn't mean you're not fucking stupid.
I have no idea what Lustral and 240 have to gain by trying to cover up and make excuses for morons like Ben Carson who are highly religious.

I personally know many doctors who are highly religious.  The chief oncologist at Duke medical was a devout Catholic who was invited this year to tour with the Pope, which he did.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 05:50:21 PM
Here you go dunce cap,
Most Doctors believe in God, afterlife.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8318894/ns/health-health_care/t/survey-most-doctors-believe-god-afterlife/#.Vj_4Ir-nZGY



Can you not argue the substantive point without copypasting spurious sources?

The fact you use not only shitty sources for facts, but also exclude the facts in those sources thinking people won't find you out (like I did above) highlight your stubborn ignorance. Go pray that google wasn't invented cos it just fucked you over.

Finally, re religious people... I am an atheist, have been since early/mid teens. Have no issue with religious people, do not push my agenda and don't care as long as they don't push theirs. My girlfriend's employers are doctors and one is very religious yet he is an anaesthesiologist. I don't get it, but as long as it doesn't interfere with his application of science I don't give a shit.

Sad to see how insufficient Adonis is at retaliating/replying to arguments. Copy/paste the bible or the internet - you're still a fucking moron who cannot articulate your point.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 05:50:54 PM
240 has an agenda. Knows Rs won't find Carson's religious beliefs/ignorance all that troubling, but they maybe won't like a liar. So "liar" is his angle here.

Also I like to argue.   It's been a decade of goofing off with coach, beach bum/dos equis, and other getbiggers.  It's fun to see them practically blowing Carson in 2011, then silent today.  It's fun to see them suddenly on the trump bandwagon.  I take a position (such as me calling trump a liberal plant back in 2011) and they HAVE to take the opposite position - to this day, NONE of them will admit trump is a RINO/liberal, they refuse to believe he's helping clinton in any way...

it's fun to debate.  keeps it interesting.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
I have no idea what Lustral and 240 have to gain by trying to cover up and make excuses for morons like Ben Carson who are highly religious.

I personally know many doctors who are highly religious.  The chief oncologist at Duke medical was a devout Catholic who was invited this year to tour with the Pope, which he did.

In what way have I tried to cover for Ben Carson? I think he is an unmitigated idiot (politically) who is lying about his religious beliefs, the same as he has lied about many other things. Stop fucking changing what I, or others, said. I am not American, I can't vote there so it is box office to me. Box office to see you meltdown trying to reply to intelligent arguments by ctrl c and ctrl v as much as you can you cretin.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:54:39 PM
My old girlfriends dad was one of the most prominent Neurosurgeons in the country, still is.  While he was Jewish (atheist), he would always make fun of his religious co-workers.  Tons of them out there.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 05:57:56 PM
Can you not argue the substantive point without copypasting spurious sources?

The fact you use not only shitty sources for facts, but also exclude the facts in those sources thinking people won't find you out (like I did above) highlight your stubborn ignorance. Go pray that google wasn't invented cos it just fucked you over.

Finally, re religious people... I am an atheist, have been since early/mid teens. Have no issue with religious people, do not push my agenda and don't care as long as they don't push theirs. My girlfriend's employers are doctors and one is very religious yet he is an anaesthesiologist. I don't get it, but as long as it doesn't interfere with his application of science I don't give a shit.

Sad to see how insufficient Adonis is at retaliating/replying to arguments. Copy/paste the bible or the internet - you're still a fucking moron who cannot articulate your point.
::)

I find it hard to believe that an anaesthesiologist, the highest paid doctor position in the US, is someone who is religious.   ::)  ::)  ::)

Thats just not possible. That can never happen.  Doctors are brilliant people.  ::) Perhaps he is just lying so to make your girlfriend not feel bad.  Maybe he is going to run for office.  Either way I do not believe it.  Its not possible.

Your sources are shitty, (Unlike mine which was funded by the NIH-US Government).  Oh well.  Liar.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
My old girlfriends dad was one of the most prominent Neurosurgeons in the country, still is.  While he was Jewish (atheist), he would always make fun of his religious co-workers.  Tons of them out there.

Well was he Jewish or atheist or couldn't make up his mind? I could care less if the doctor who removed my brain tumour developing from reading this thread believed in bigfoot or the tooth fairy as long as he knew what he was doing - I just don't see how someone could be smart enough to do one thing, based on a mound of practise and scientific knowledge, yet believe another thing based on gossip from 2000 years ago recorded 400 years later - and take it seriously.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
In what way have I tried to cover for Ben Carson? I think he is an unmitigated idiot (politically) who is lying about his religious beliefs, the same as he has lied about many other things. Stop fucking changing what I, or others, said. I am not American, I can't vote there so it is box office to me. Box office to see you meltdown trying to reply to intelligent arguments by ctrl c and ctrl v as much as you can you cretin.

You are dumber than the tin foil hat conspiracy theorists.  So Ben Carson has put on this elaborate ploy for over six decades?  He even inscribed bible passages in marble on his walls at his home with his Jesus picture collection, not because he is religious, but because he wants to keep the conspiracy going?

You are a moron.  Dumb as bricks.  Dumber than Carson actually.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 06:02:40 PM
Well was he Jewish or atheist or couldn't make up his mind? I could care less if the doctor who removed my brain tumour developing from reading this thread believed in bigfoot or the tooth fairy as long as he knew what he was doing - I just don't see how someone could be smart enough to do one thing, based on a mound of practise and scientific knowledge, yet believe another thing based on gossip from 2000 years ago recorded 400 years later - and take it seriously.
Ashkenazi are a race.

 How were you able to come to terms with your girlfriends religious employer being an anaesthesiologist?  Or is he lying too?  ???
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 06:06:08 PM
::)

I find it hard to believe that an anaesthesiologist, the highest paid doctor position in the US, is someone who is religious.   ::)  ::)  ::)

Thats just not possible. That can never happen.  Doctors are brilliant people.  ::) Perhaps he is just lying so to make your girlfriend not feel bad.  Maybe he is going to run for office.  Either way I do not believe it.  Its not possible.

Your sources are shitty, (Unlike mine which was funded by the NIH-US Government).  Oh well.  Liar.

What sources did I use? I just used the parts of same article you left out. I am using empirical evidence.

Oh, and this doctor is religious, but not a creationist. Look, it makes no sense to me, but I did not grow up indoctrinated in religion like most of his peerage did. He takes it seriously, does pilgrimages etc.

We are veering so off point here the thread is dangling off a cliff... he is a shitty, xenophobic candidate who, imo, lies about his religious beliefs to appeal to voters but, if he really believes that... like he believes he would be a hero in a shootout... so be it...

No idea how out of 340 million people these are the best representatives that can be found.

PS Adonis: Do not bother calling me dumb/moronic. It doesn't annoy me, noone cares and I am sure we could have a dick measuring contest where i post my degrees and masters and you post your whatever... just fucking read what I say, it isn't too far off what you said originally.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 08, 2015, 06:11:21 PM
Also I like to argue.   It's been a decade of goofing off with coach, beach bum/dos equis, and other getbiggers.  It's fun to see them practically blowing Carson in 2011, then silent today.  It's fun to see them suddenly on the trump bandwagon.  I take a position (such as me calling trump a liberal plant back in 2011) and they HAVE to take the opposite position - to this day, NONE of them will admit trump is a RINO/liberal, they refuse to believe he's helping clinton in any way...

it's fun to debate.  keeps it interesting.

Fine if you're trolling, but you just lie.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 06:13:12 PM
What sources did I use? I just used the parts of same article you left out. I am using empirical evidence.

Oh, and this doctor is religious, but not a creationist. Look, it makes no sense to me, but I did not grow up indoctrinated in religion like most of his peerage did. He takes it seriously, does pilgrimages etc.

We are veering so off point here the thread is dangling off a cliff... he is a shitty, xenophobic candidate who, imo, lies about his religious beliefs to appeal to voters but, if he really believes that... like he believes he would be a hero in a shootout... so be it...

No idea how out of 340 million people these are the best representatives that can be found.

PS Adonis: Do not bother calling me dumb/moronic. It doesn't annoy me, noone cares and I am sure we could have a dick measuring contest where i post my degrees and masters and you post your whatever... just fucking read what I say, it isn't too far off what you said originally.
You can somehow deal with the anaesthesiologist being religious, but you think Ben Carson is lying despite being religious his entire life (mountains of evidence going back since childhood)?

That makes no sense.  Its as if you are trying to make excuses for his stupidity.  I am just wondering why you are doing so?  Also, you do not like the fact that the majority of Doctors in the United States are religious, surgeons included.  In fact, I rarely have ran into an atheist doctor.  How do I know they are religious, because I know many personally and they are always at church functions, in the paper, visible in the community etc...This is all in line with data that suggests that Doctors are overwhelmingly religious.  

Find me some data that says otherwise.  I would love to have it.  Sadly, that is not the case.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 06:28:38 PM
You can somehow deal with the anaesthesiologist being religious, but you think Ben Carson is lying despite being religious his entire life (mountains of evidence going back since childhood)?

That makes no sense.  Its as if you are trying to make excuses for his stupidity.  I am just wondering why you are doing so?  Also, you do not like the fact that the majority of Doctors in the United States are religious, surgeons included.  In fact, I rarely have ran into an atheist doctor.  How do I know they are religious, because I know many personally and they are always at church functions, in the paper, visible in the community etc...This is all in line with data that suggests that Doctors are overwhelmingly religious.  

Find me some data that says otherwise.  I would love to have it.  Sadly, that is not the case.



You can believe in an afterlife if it comforts you from believing we live, die and become compost. As long as it does not change your actions doing surgery i do not care. We do not have creationists here, at least not in numbers, so it is so alien to me that someone could be that stupid. You might meet them everyday, i do not. Strangely creationism uses the ""maths" of an Irish bishop who added ages of people in bible.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The True Adonis on November 08, 2015, 06:36:21 PM
You can believe in an afterlife if it comforts you from believing we live, die and become compost. As long as it does not change your actions doing surgery i do not care. We do not have creationists here, at least not in numbers, so it is so alien to me that someone could be that stupid. You might meet them everyday, i do not. Strangely creationism uses the ""maths" of an Irish bishop who added ages of people in bible.


The problem here is that according to studies, Fifty-five percent of doctors say their religious beliefs influence how they practice medicine.

That is certainly a problem.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Lustral on November 08, 2015, 06:41:27 PM
The problem here is that according to studies, Fifty-five percent of doctors say their religious beliefs influence how they practice medicine.

That is certainly a problem.

Surely that could range from beliefs on euthanasia to (i cant think of one) jehovah's witnesses. Either way religion is a personal belief, it should not affect your job (unless you are a priest).

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2015, 07:03:10 PM


That is certainly a problem.

Only in your own little mind.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 07:25:52 PM
Only in your own little mind.

Coach,

Has Ben Carson been dishonest, at all?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on November 08, 2015, 07:32:17 PM
If doctors were smart they'd become scientists. They're doctors precisely because they aren't smart, but merely adept at memorization. Very little thinking involved.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2015, 07:32:32 PM
Coach,

Has Ben Carson been dishonest, at all?

Not that you or the lib media can prove.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 07:36:53 PM
Not that you or the lib media can prove.

I didn't ask you that.   I didn't ask you to comment on me or the media.

You see his statements.   Has he been 100% honest?  YES OR NO?

(If you support the dude, and refuse to even answer that, it looks bad man)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 08, 2015, 07:39:16 PM
Anyone know who the biggest RINO is? Still in the race, I mean.

This Rhino just dropped out of the PDI race

(http://www.flashrob.com/a/london/3.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 07:40:08 PM
Not that you or the lib media can prove.

Carson is supposed to be the non-politician in the race.  the honest one, not the average political tool.

If it's come down to "you cant PROVE he was lying when he made all of those contradictory statements"... well, you'll win in court of law, but in the court of PUBLIC OPINION, we all see he's a full-of-shit liar.  It's been a week, and almost a dozen major "mis-truths" have emerged.  All those major moments of his life were embellished or just plain made up.   "This man offered me a scholarship" = now he admits he didn't get offered one, and the dude wasn't even in the city that day.

I'm not sure what other 'proof' you need.  there are some people that still believe Cain never did anything inappropriate in 43 years of marriage, as he promised.  But, a dozen mistresses, an apology, and 11 years of sexting and payoffs to lesbian lover... some folks STILL believe Cain.  And when the nation gives up on lying Carson, these same people will STILL believe Casron never lied one bit.  At least that libs could prove ;)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2015, 07:42:34 PM
If doctors were smart they'd become scientists. They're doctors precisely because they aren't smart, but merely adept at memorization. Very little thinking involved.

Maybe you'd like to read the intro to this artical.

http://www.icr.org/article/benjamin-carson-pediatric-neurosurgeon-with-gifted/
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 07:47:55 PM
I think carson is a BRILLIANT man.  He knows people.  He knows that 18% of the population truly believes 6000 years ago, there was nothing here.  The sun wasn't here.  The Earth wasn't here.  The universe.

Almost 1/5 of people (and a huge amount of repub primary voters) believe this.  And they believe 3000 years ago, Noah put all animals on his ark and the planet flooded, and the animals didn't eat each other.  And dinos and people hung out.  And oil didn't form from millions of years of dino remains, it just appeared one day.  Diamonds too!  Grand canyon?  Very young too.

Carson just repeats what they want to hear.  Spending almost all his campaign $ on building the book/sales list, just like Huck did.  he's not building 50s state infrastructure like Trump, Cruz and Rubio are doing.  He's on a book tour, not collecting support he WILL need.  He's running for book salesman.  

During the 2016 election, Carson will be a fox contributor selling a new book, giving speeches, making $20 mil a year.   Period.  that's all he wants, and just like many won't admit if they believe they 6000 year thing ;) , they cannot accept this about carson.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 07:56:25 PM
Ben Carson Says Honesty Is More Important Than Political Experience

Carson:
"Many in the political class don't seem to understand it, but something historic is happening across America. We've been told that only politicians can fix our problems, but I believe that traditional "political experience" is much less important than faith, honesty, courage, and an unshakable belief in the principles that made America the greatest nation in the world."

And Carson does tend to depict himself as a teller of truths. In one of his books, he pointed out that he was always advising youngsters to be honest:

"When I talk to young people, I urge them, "Tell the truth. If you tell the truth all the time you don't have to worry threemonths down the line about what you said three months earlier. Truth is always the truth. You won't have to complicate your life by trying to cover up."

(http://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDarvYEKzI8OevCfu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2015, 09:17:11 PM
Not that you or the lib media can prove.

You don't believe him, do you?  Anyone who believes carson is honest would be shouting it.
Anyone who can't answer that... lol... that's an answer, all right.


Has ben carson been 100% honest?  Yes or no?

Can't answer that.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 08, 2015, 09:46:18 PM
If doctors were smart they'd become scientists. They're doctors precisely because they aren't smart, but merely adept at memorization. Very little thinking involved.

Brain and heart surgery just requires a good memory?

Medicine is a science.

Being able to perceive and RETAIN information/knowledge IS part of intelligence. Just memorizing the quadratic equation doesn't mean you can solve all quadratic equations or even recognize a problem is quadratic. You don't think doctors, say a neurosurgeon, have to do a little problem solving? What do you do for a living?

Cracks me up at all the people here that poo-poo the intelligence of doctors when the majority of you didn't have the smarts to get into a decent university let alone get through the premed courses.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Skeletor on November 08, 2015, 09:52:25 PM
Maybe you'd like to read the intro to this artical.

http://www.icr.org/article/benjamin-carson-pediatric-neurosurgeon-with-gifted/

An "artical" from the "Institute for Creation Research"... ::)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: WOOO on November 09, 2015, 12:20:42 AM
The idea that Ben Carson or Trump can get this close to being president is troubling.

Americants are fucking stupid.

Go China  :P
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 09, 2015, 12:57:54 AM
The idea that Ben Carson or Trump can get this close to being president is troubling.

Americants are fucking stupid.

Go China  :P

Where are you from?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on November 09, 2015, 03:33:31 AM
Brain and heart surgery just requires a good memory?

Medicine is a science.

Being able to perceive and RETAIN information/knowledge IS part of intelligence. Just memorizing the quadratic equation doesn't mean you can solve all quadratic equations or even recognize a problem is quadratic. You don't think doctors, say a neurosurgeon, have to do a little problem solving? What do you do for a living?

Cracks me up at all the people here that poo-poo the intelligence of doctors when the majority of you didn't have the smarts to get into a decent university let alone get through the premed courses.

Thank you, i wrote a post but erased it, it's called medical PRACTICE, it takes a ton of knowledge, pattern recognition and IQ to solve real time problems of dying people. The human body is ultra complex, problem solving is medicine.

Most of the people commenting on intelligence seem unaware of how it is measured, i would argue that as a general factor doctors are among the very highest.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on November 09, 2015, 03:35:33 AM
If doctors were smart they'd become scientists. They're doctors precisely because they aren't smart, but merely adept at memorization. Very little thinking involved.

Very little thinking? LOLOLOLOLOL.

ya DDX a patients symptomatology like house requires little thought. Putting people on medications, little thought, working with the most complex thing known to man? easy.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on November 09, 2015, 04:07:42 AM
Maybe you'd like to read the intro to this artical.

http://www.icr.org/article/benjamin-carson-pediatric-neurosurgeon-with-gifted/

ARTICAL ARTICAL

CREATION SCIENCE, NO TESTABLE HYPOTHESIS, WINNER.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 09, 2015, 05:14:59 AM
ARTICAL ARTICAL

CREATION SCIENCE, NO TESTABLE HYPOTHESIS, WINNER.

Like a collem on promiscuous abstinence.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Las Vegas on November 09, 2015, 06:06:27 AM
Where are you from?

He's Canadian.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 09, 2015, 06:55:02 AM
If doctors were smart they'd become scientists. They're doctors precisely because they aren't smart, but merely adept at memorization. Very little thinking involved.

This has to be one of the dumbest things ever posted anywhere.  Please kill yourself now and do society a favor.  The world's average IQ will jump 10 points without you.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 09, 2015, 07:41:11 AM
Maybe you'd like to read the intro to this artical.

http://www.icr.org/article/benjamin-carson-pediatric-neurosurgeon-with-gifted/

Can you provide evidence that Carson believes the earth is 6,000 years old rather than the scientifically accepted age?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 09, 2015, 07:48:05 AM
Can you provide evidence that Carson believes the earth is 6,000 years old rather than the scientifically accepted age?

Carson said he never specifically stated such.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 09, 2015, 07:51:21 AM
“You go back to the very first chapter in the Bible -- and I’m not a hard and fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old -- but I do believe in the six-day creation,” he said.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2015, 08:13:15 AM
this week, we will see ben carson pick at the statements, trying to prove he attempted murder, or trying to defend insane statements about the founding fathers or pyramids.

you give these silly charges to Hilary or Jeb or Cruz, they laugh them off.  Carson is asking reporters if they'll sign an affadavit promising not to interview people from 50 years ago, if he gives out the names.

he's an amateur.   If you're going to brag about not being a politician - fine.  But you'd better be honest (he admits some of his claims in book aren't true) and you'd better be smooth/shrewd (he gets rattled so quickly over silly claims about 50 years ago).

medication + stress + inexperience = what we saw from carson this weekend.   We can spend the week nitpicking details about what was lies, what was "mistakes" and what he can prove, but it's irrelevant now.  He's not presidential material.  Move on to Cruz or Rubio and just get on the same page and choose one, so the GOP can unite and get past hilary.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 10, 2015, 12:06:41 AM
his voice crasking, hips swinging, really getting agitated while speaking.   Carson is rattled.  Dude is getting worked over - again - by stupid media people who are 1/10 as smart as him. 

accusing the media of vetting him harder than any candidate in history.  um, is that the same history book where the pyramids store grain? 

Carson is book smart, but we can all agree he lacks the calm, reserved, gravitas which we want in a prsident.  He's rattled by a bunch of liberal media idiots, he's shaking and voice cracking.   What happens when china threatens him with bankruptcy or putin threatens war? 

we've seen carson face exactly TWO attacks.  CNBC and this latest.  Both pretty soft.  He's come unraveled both times.  Wanted to not televise debates THEN this latest rant.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2015, 06:37:54 AM
his voice crasking, hips swinging, really getting agitated while speaking.   Carson is rattled.  Dude is getting worked over - again - by stupid media people who are 1/10 as smart as him.  

accusing the media of vetting him harder than any candidate in history.  um, is that the same history book where the pyramids store grain?  

Carson is book smart, but we can all agree he lacks the calm, reserved, gravitas which we want in a prsident.  He's rattled by a bunch of liberal media idiots, he's shaking and voice cracking.   What happens when china threatens him with bankruptcy or putin threatens war?  

we've seen carson face exactly TWO attacks.  CNBC and this latest.  Both pretty soft.  He's come unraveled both times.  Wanted to not televise debates THEN this latest rant.

Are you smoking that ganga? For months, people have complained that Carson's primary/lone weakness was he's too soft spoken. He gets slandered by Politico and CNN, punches them right back in the mouth, yet now he's "rattled"?

If anything, Carson's stock may go up as people who like him but want to see him show some fire have now seen such, as he is just hammering the media hacks who keep pushing this dopey narrative.

Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 10, 2015, 09:04:19 AM
Let's watch the polls.  He was the national front runner in several polls and I believe he may have taken rCp average, I'm not sure. 

Give it two weeks.  The nonsense about the pyramids and founding fathers alone should be adrquate to shows he's cluless.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2015, 09:32:05 AM
Let's watch the polls.  He was the national front runner in several polls and I believe he may have taken rCp average, I'm not sure. 

Give it two weeks.  The nonsense about the pyramids and founding fathers alone should be adrquate to shows he's cluless.

As if the voters wanting to keep this country from going down the tubes are wringing their hands about Carson's opinion about pyramids being used to store grain per the Genesis account of Joseph.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 10, 2015, 09:39:19 AM
Carson said people in cities don't need semi auto guns. 

Nothing to do with pyramids.  He's an anti gun candidate. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 10, 2015, 11:01:00 AM
“You go back to the very first chapter in the Bible -- and I’m not a hard and fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old -- but I do believe in the six-day creation,” he said.

Seems Cruz is just as nutty:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-atheists_5640b613e4b0411d30719f52
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 10, 2015, 11:46:15 AM
Seems Cruz is just as nutty:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-atheists_5640b613e4b0411d30719f52

"Any president who doesn't begin every day on his knees isn't fit to be commander-in-chief of this country," responded Cruz.


What an arrogant douchebag
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2015, 12:37:27 PM
"Any president who doesn't begin every day on his knees isn't fit to be commander-in-chief of this country," responded Cruz.


What an arrogant douchebag

Yeah.  How dare that man have an opinion. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Skeletor on November 10, 2015, 12:48:30 PM
"Any president who doesn't begin every day on his knees isn't fit to be commander-in-chief of this country," responded Cruz.


What an arrogant douchebag

Maybe he has homosexual fantasies about being on his knees every morning.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 10, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
Yeah.  How dare that man have an opinion. 

having an opinion isn't the problem, it's what the opinion is. You can have the opinion child abuse is ok, but your opinion and you by extension ..are messed up. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2015, 01:09:44 PM
having an opinion isn't the problem, it's what the opinion is. You can have the opinion child abuse is ok, but your opinion and you by extension ..are messed up. 

Yes, having an opinion that child abuse is ok would make that person pretty screwed up.  That said, I don't see a reasonable comparison between child abuse and a person's sincerely held religious beliefs.

I don't agree with Cruz's opinion, but I also don't think he's an arrogant douchebag because of that opinion.   
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 10, 2015, 01:12:55 PM
Yes, having an opinion that child abuse is ok would make that person pretty screwed up.  That said, I don't see a reasonable comparison between child abuse and a person's sincerely held religious beliefs.

I don't agree with Cruz's opinion, but I also don't think he's an arrogant douchebag because of that opinion.   

To eliminate someone from holding an office because they don't share your personal belief in a particular religion? A belief that you can't prove is true? Yeah... douche bag
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
To eliminate someone from holding an office because they don't share your personal belief in a particular religion? A belief that you can't prove is true? Yeah... douche bag

Different stokes.  I understand his rationale.  I would personally eliminate anyone who wants to tax people at 90 percent.  That's obscene.  It's stealing.  But I wouldn't call Bernie Sanders a douchebag. 

It's partly about respecting differences.  People can be wrong without being evil (or a douchebag). 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 10, 2015, 01:20:17 PM
Different stokes.  I understand his rationale.  I would personally eliminate anyone who wants to tax people at 90 percent.  That's obscene.  It's stealing.  But I wouldn't call Bernie Sanders a douchebag. 

It's partly about respecting differences.  People can be wrong without being evil (or a douchebag). 

I think raising taxes and declaring people who don't share your personal belief in a god unfit for office two different things. It's similar to saying black people shouldn't be allowed in the same restaurants. Believing someone is inferior to you because they are different, is much different in my opinion than someone who holds a different opinion on taxation. One could just be ignorant of financial issues, the other... a douchebag.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2015, 02:36:34 PM
I think raising taxes and declaring people who don't share your personal belief in a god unfit for office two different things. It's similar to saying black people shouldn't be allowed in the same restaurants. Believing someone is inferior to you because they are different, is much different in my opinion than someone who holds a different opinion on taxation. One could just be ignorant of financial issues, the other... a douchebag.

He didn't say they are inferior.  He's talking about qualifications. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 10, 2015, 02:39:30 PM
Different stokes.  I understand his rationale.  I would personally eliminate anyone who wants to tax people at 90 percent.  That's obscene.  It's stealing.  But I wouldn't call Bernie Sanders a douchebag.  

It's partly about respecting differences.  People can be wrong without being evil (or a douchebag).  

Entirely overrated. You say his proposed "stealing" is "obscene" (and I completely agree), yet you feel obligated to respect it?

How are we defining respect here?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Necrosis on November 10, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
what companies are doing to the US is obscene, the fucking corporate tax evaders live off the back of the taxpayers.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2015, 02:58:47 PM
Entirely overrated. You say his proposed "stealing" is "obscene" (and I completely agree), yet you feel obligated to respect it?

How are we defining respect here?

Respecting the person.  Separate the act from the person.  I think taxing someone at 90 percent is immoral.  But I'm able to separate my vehement disagreement with that policy position from Bernie Sanders the person. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 10, 2015, 03:09:44 PM
Respecting the person.  Separate the act from the person.  I think taxing someone at 90 percent is immoral.  But I'm able to separate my vehement disagreement with that policy position from Bernie Sanders the person. 

I see. That's fair, I suppose. For politics. Do we apply this elsewhere, too? Meaning, I'd have trouble separating, say, a murder from the murderer. Extreme case, but only for clarification.

Do you think most anti-Obama conservatives respect him as a person?
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
I see. That's fair, I suppose. For politics. Do we apply this elsewhere, too? Meaning, I'd have trouble separating, say, a murder from the murderer. Extreme case, but only for clarification.

Do you think most anti-Obama conservatives respect him as a person?

I try and apply it wherever I can.  I think we can still separate a murder from the murderer, although that does not mean we don't hold the person accountable.  Would also depend on how the crime happened, etc.  Cannot say that for all crimes.  At least in my eyes.  

No I don't think most anti-Obama conservatives respect him as a person.  That's been the nature of politics for decades.  Republicans demonized and hated Bill Clinton.  Democrats demonized and hated Bush.  That said, there are plenty of reasons to dislike Obama as a leader, including his dishonesty and incredibly poor leadership.  I think he's a horrible leader, but not a bad person.    

I think I posted an opinion piece on here many years ago about how we have gone from right and wrong on the issues to good versus evil.  Will try and find it.  

Edit:  here it is:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=149392.0
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 10, 2015, 04:31:50 PM
carson is a flawed candidate in a lot of ways.

i hope repub voters realize this and put up a Cruz instead. 

you put carson in a national race, 3-4 months into sleeping in hotels and meeting strangers, he will say some insane shit that'll cost him the election.  Hilary is a robot and far less likely to do so.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
carson is a flawed candidate in a lot of ways.

i hope repub voters realize this and put up a Cruz instead. 

you put carson in a national race, 3-4 months into sleeping in hotels and meeting strangers, he will say some insane shit that'll cost him the election.  Hilary is a robot and far less likely to do so.

Ummmm.... He's already in a national race. So far, so good.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: pellius on November 11, 2015, 06:43:19 AM
carson is a flawed candidate in a lot of ways.

i hope repub voters realize this and put up a Cruz instead. 

you put carson in a national race, 3-4 months into sleeping in hotels and meeting strangers, he will say some insane shit that'll cost him the election.  Hilary is a robot and far less likely to do so.

I like Rubio as well and thinks he really shines in the debates but I can't see him being as strong, forceful and persuasive as Cruz when dealing with other world leaders like Putin. I can't really explain why. I have a feeling it's an unfair and emotional response to Rubio because he looks so young and boyish. Cruz looks all business and he's highly educated and intelligent.

People like Trump. They say they want a change. But I think when push comes to shove and the way the world is today, they are going to want someone that's sober, solid and knows the issue inside and out. Trump is a gamble. Cruz is solid. He has political experience. Trump has none.  I would feel very secure and confident with Cruz leading this country. He's the best that's currently out there.

I like Ben Carson but never took him seriously as a presidential candidate.

(Had the TV on while typing this and someone just questioned Cruz about saying two times about eliminating the Dept of Commerce when listing departments that should be eliminated. He just responded that the Dept of Commerce is so egregious and full of cronyism that it should be eliminated twice. LOL!)
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 11, 2015, 09:21:54 AM
rubio is smart, and he speaks quickly.   I'm a bright fccker and I have to do double takes when he speaks sometimes, to process everything he says.   Reminds me of Dubya bush when he was governor - bright as shit but spoke a tad too quickly for the masses.  bush learned to slow it down in 99 for the election. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2015, 06:19:03 PM
To become a neurosurgeon, you certainly have to be smart. Politics is a different story and it involves other attributes aside from sheer intelligence.

"1"

Months ago.... you were 100% correct.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 25, 2015, 03:58:16 PM
rubio is smart, and he speaks quickly.   I'm a complete fucking moron and I have to do quadruple takes when he speaks sometimes, to process everything he says.   Reminds me of Dubya bush when he was governor - bright as shit but spoke a tad too quickly for the masses.  bush learned to slow it down in 99 for the election. 

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Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 25, 2015, 04:32:59 PM
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when rubio speaks legislatively about deeper topics, he uses a lot of big words and uses them quickly.

Trump and carson speak slowly and use small, simple words.  "make america great" plays way better with stupid people, than "restore America's geopolitical influence" .
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Las Vegas on November 25, 2015, 04:46:43 PM
Btw, Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Americans!
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 25, 2015, 05:13:52 PM
The holiday is a slap in the face to every American Injun, brave and squaw alike.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Las Vegas on November 25, 2015, 05:14:55 PM
The holiday is a slap in the face to every American Injun, brave and squaw alike.

They'll have to eat a bit more and get over it!
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 25, 2015, 08:24:06 PM
Btw, Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Americans!

Next thanksgiving, there will be 11 million fewer of us.  Trump should have them deported in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: The Ugly on November 27, 2015, 07:53:47 AM
Next thanksgiving, there will be 11 million fewer of us.  Trump should have them deported in a few weeks.

Are you this annoying in real life? Remind me of my idiot brother, man, no f'n off switch with this shit.
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: 240 is Back on February 01, 2016, 11:18:22 PM
Ben Carson was awesome last night.

Ben Carson isn't campaigning like everyone else.  He's going home to Florida.  He will quietly become a footnote. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 02, 2016, 06:11:56 AM
Ben Carson isn't campaigning like everyone else.  He's going home to Florida.  He will quietly become a footnote. 


Going to pull a Cain.  Disappear and hope everyone soon forgets the embarrassing little outing he had as a campaigner. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson (why not)?
Post by: Dos Equis on February 02, 2016, 07:47:36 AM
Are you this annoying in real life? Remind me of my idiot brother, man, no f'n off switch with this shit.

lol