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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: anabolichalo on July 17, 2016, 01:17:40 PM
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going to get sooo fucking huge
HUGE
1kg chicken
614 grams of rice (i always use the rice to meet a round number using backwards calculation, therefore it looks like a funny number)
300grams oats powder
4 scoops of whey protons
40grams of broken flax seeds, blended in my shakes
total macros
5000kcal
417,4 g protein
687,7 g carbs
57,4 g fats
cant wait to get huge
HUGE
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why dont you eat 200 gms of protein and a couple of big Pizzas?
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not enough fat
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HUGE? As In Fat?
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not enough fat
too expensive
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had just been eye ballin my rice and finally measured it today
it actually seems on the low side, might have been eating more
but since i gotta start measuring somewhere, i'll start at 5000kcal
since i've been pleateaud in weight i really need to start jamming down the food
maybe going to go to 6000 if thats what it takes
gotta get huge
no cupcakin
no lolipopin
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HUGE? As In Fat?
i dont believe in fat
i only believe in being jacked and thick and huge
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too expensive
just put more flax seeds in your shakes. Aren't they pretty cheap?
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just put more flax seeds in your shakes. Aren't they pretty cheap?
i buy broken flax and blend it with a blender
part of me is paranoid it wont be absorbed since not grinded to dust
other part of me is paranoid since it broken, it lost most of its nutritional value
being a paranoid mofo aint easy
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i dont believe in fat
i only believe in being jacked and thick and huge
Then Cut The Carbs, And Up The Fats In Your Diet.
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Doesn't read like a HALO post to me...
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Then Cut The Carbs, And Up The Fats In Your Diet.
LISTEN UP YU FUCKING MORON
YU DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOO
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Then Cut The Carbs, And Up The Fats In Your Diet.
he needs to spike his insulin, hes bulking dumbass.
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Doesn't read like a HALO post to me...
i am now older and more angry at the world
people change guy dealllll wkith iittt!!!!
also roid rage
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he needs to spike his insulin, hes bulking dumbass.
Spiking Insulin Just Creates Body Fat.
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this mother fucker saying this diet makes me fat
while in reality i'm not even gaining weight
probably going to bump it up to 5500-6000kcal to get real good gains
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Spiking Insulin Just Creates Body Fat.
A calorific excess creates bodyfat, if you eat 10 spoonfuls of sugar three times a day to spike insulin and eat nothing else , will you get fat?
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A calorific excess creates bodyfat, if you eat 10 spoonfuls of sugar three times a day to spike insulin and eat nothing else , will you get fat?
Maybe, Maybe Not, But You Definitely Won't Build Any Muscle Either.
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Maybe, Maybe Not, But You Definitely Won't Build Any Muscle Either.
Maybe, Maybe not????
Where the fuck are your scientific studies now?
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Maybe, Maybe not????
Where the fuck are your scientific studies now?
Depends On The Person, And His Activities, But For Most People, They Would Indeed Gain Body Fat, And Absolutely No One Would Gain Even An Ounce Of Muscle Tissue. Fact!
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Depends On The Person, And His Activities, But For Most People, They Would Indeed Gain Body Fat, And Absolutely No One Would Gain Even An Ounce Of Muscle Tissue. Fact!
Gain bodyfat on 450 cals a day?????
Yes, of course they would.
Jeeez, what a dumbass.
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If you really eat like this day in and day out it means you have a lot of discipline
on the food front, which is great. But I believe you would most likely notice a nice performance boost by adding some whole egg, whole milk and red meat. And sodium!
I've been enjoying Stan Efferding's videos. Smart dude. Check out these for example:
Not just about kids, about chicken vs red meat, egg whites vs whole eggs etc
On sodium. He takes in 10-12 grams a day
Great stuff.
Be There, what do you think about what Stan is saying?
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i poor a lot of thai hot sauce on my rice
barely any calories but a lot of sodium
who cares about BP, we're freaks ???
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Spiking Insulin Just Creates Body Fat.
It's all about calorie balance. Insulin spiking doesn't hinder fat loss nor does it make you fat without the calories. There is no fat loss benefit in a deficit diet between keto and carb based diet for example, as long as protein is controlled (same intake in both cases).
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Absurd gimmick.
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It's all about calorie balance. Insulin spiking doesn't hinder fat loss nor does it make you fat without the calories.
You're Wrong!
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You're Wrong!
Nope, no hes not....
If you are right all they would have needed in Auschwitz is a bag of pear drops each, they would have lived out the war.
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You're Wrong!
For example:
Energy expenditure and body composition changes after an isocaloric ketogenic diet in overweight and obese men1,2
Kevin D Hall3,*, Kong Y Chen3, Juen Guo3, Yan Y Lam4, Rudolph L Leibel5, Laurel ES Mayer5, Marc L Reitman3, Michael Rosenbaum5, Steven R Smith6, B Timothy Walsh5, and Eric Ravussin4
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Author Affiliations
3National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, Bethesda, MD;
4Pennington Biomedical Research Center, Baton Rouge, LA;
5Columbia University, New York, NY; and
6The Translational Research Institute for Metabolism and Diabetes, Orlando, FL
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Author Notes
↵1 Supported by the Nutrition Sciences Initiative. This work was also supported in part by the Intramural Research Program of the NIH, the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (KDH, KYC, and MLR), NIH grant UL1 TR00040 (Columbia Clinical and Translational Science Award; MR and RL), and Nutrition Obesity Research Center Grant P30DK072476 (ER).
↵2 Supplemental Figures 1–3 and Supplemental Tables 1 and 2 are available from the “Online Supporting Material” link in the online posting of the article and from the same link in the online table of contents at http://ajcn.nutrition.org.
↵*To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: kevinh@niddk.nih.gov.
Abstract
Background: The carbohydrate–insulin model of obesity posits that habitual consumption of a high-carbohydrate diet sequesters fat within adipose tissue because of hyperinsulinemia and results in adaptive suppression of energy expenditure (EE). Therefore, isocaloric exchange of dietary carbohydrate for fat is predicted to result in increased EE, increased fat oxidation, and loss of body fat. In contrast, a more conventional view that “a calorie is a calorie” predicts that isocaloric variations in dietary carbohydrate and fat will have no physiologically important effects on EE or body fat.
Objective: We investigated whether an isocaloric low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet (KD) is associated with changes in EE, respiratory quotient (RQ), and body composition.
Design: Seventeen overweight or obese men were admitted to metabolic wards, where they consumed a high-carbohydrate baseline diet (BD) for 4 wk followed by 4 wk of an isocaloric KD with clamped protein. Subjects spent 2 consecutive days each week residing in metabolic chambers to measure changes in EE (EEchamber), sleeping EE (SEE), and RQ. Body composition changes were measured by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry. Average EE during the final 2 wk of the BD and KD periods was measured by doubly labeled water (EEDLW).
Results: Subjects lost weight and body fat throughout the study corresponding to an overall negative energy balance of ∼300 kcal/d. Compared with BD, the KD coincided with increased EEchamber (57 ± 13 kcal/d, P = 0.0004) and SEE (89 ± 14 kcal/d, P < 0.0001) and decreased RQ (−0.111 ± 0.003, P < 0.0001). EEDLW increased by 151 ± 63 kcal/d (P = 0.03). Body fat loss slowed during the KD and coincided with increased protein utilization and loss of fat-free mass.
Conclusion: The isocaloric KD was not accompanied by increased body fat loss but was associated with relatively small increases in EE that were near the limits of detection with the use of state-of-the-art technology. This trial was registered at clinicaltrials.gov as NCT01967563.
Researcher comments:
"According to the insulin-carbohydrate model, we should have seen an acceleration in the rate of body fat loss when we cut insulin by 50 percent," Hall said. But they didn’t, which he thinks suggests that the regulation of fat tissue storage in the body has to do with more than just insulin levels and their relationship with the carbs we eat.
Now this is a "little" study but it's a metabolic ward study, in which diet is strictly controlled and is obviously superior to studies where participants are asked what they eat or are given diets. People do not adhere to diets and do not know how to count calories, so they are almost useless. One review said 30 years of obesity research is flawed and useless due to this. Compliance is a huge problem when it comes to diet research.
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For example:
Researcher comments:
"According to the insulin-carbohydrate model, we should have seen an acceleration in the rate of body fat loss when we cut insulin by 50 percent," Hall said. But they didn’t, which he thinks suggests that the regulation of fat tissue storage in the body has to do with more than just insulin levels and their relationship with the carbs we eat.
What EXACTLY Were They Eating. This Is Where The Diets Are Rigged To Get Predetermined Results. I've Read Hundreds Of Articles On Low Carb Diets Not Working, But They Always Leave Out The Details Of Exactly What Was Eaten. It's This Crap That We Should Believe The "Scientists" When We Don't Get The Exact Information, To Judge The Validity Of The Experiment.
Some Of What Passes For Low Carb Diet In Studies Is Ridiculous. One Study Of Low Carb Diet Failure To Cut Body Fat, Used A "Low" Carb Diet That Was 58% Carbs!
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What EXACTLY Were They Eating. This Is Where The Diets Are Rigged To Get Predetermined Results. I've Read Hundreds Of Articles On Low Carb Diets Not Working, But They Always Leave Out The Details Of Exactly What Was Eaten. It's This Crap That We Should Believe The "Scientists" When We Don't Get The Exact Information, To Judge The Validity Of The Experiment.
Some Of What Passes For Low Carb Diet In Studies Is Ridiculous. One Study Of Low Carb Diet Failure To Cut Body Fat, Used A "Low" Carb Diet That Was 58% Carbs!
Alright, how about you post valid studies which support your position then.
Here's another:
Calorie for Calorie, Dietary Fat Restriction Results in More Body Fat Loss than Carbohydrate Restriction in People with Obesity
Highlights
•19 adults with obesity were confined to a metabolic ward for two 2-week periods
•Cutting carbohydrates increased net fat oxidation, but cutting fat by equal calories had no effect
•Cutting fat resulted in more body fat loss as measured by metabolic balance
•Mathematical model simulations predicted small long-term differences in body fat
Summary
Dietary carbohydrate restriction has been purported to cause endocrine adaptations that promote body fat loss more than dietary fat restriction. We selectively restricted dietary carbohydrate versus fat for 6 days following a 5-day baseline diet in 19 adults with obesity confined to a metabolic ward where they exercised daily. Subjects received both isocaloric diets in random order during each of two inpatient stays. Body fat loss was calculated as the difference between daily fat intake and net fat oxidation measured while residing in a metabolic chamber. Whereas carbohydrate restriction led to sustained increases in fat oxidation and loss of 53 ± 6 g/day of body fat, fat oxidation was unchanged by fat restriction, leading to 89 ± 6 g/day of fat loss, and was significantly greater than carbohydrate restriction (p = 0.002). Mathematical model simulations agreed with these data, but predicted that the body acts to minimize body fat differences with prolonged isocaloric diets varying in carbohydrate and fat.
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Alright, how about you post valid studies which support your position then.
Here's another:
That's What I Want You To Do, Because Twice Now You Haven't. You Ignored That I Pointed Out That These Studies That Allegedly Show That Low Carb Diets Don't Work, Really Don't Use Low Carb Diets.
Let Me Explain, Once Again, How The Diet Should Be Structured. The Diet Should be Two To One Fats To Proteins, Say About 70% Fats/30% Protein, From Animal Sources, And Never More That 10% Carbs At Any One Meal.
Absolutely NO Cheat Days, NO Cheat Meals, No Cheat Snacks, And NO Carb Refeeds. Do That For Two Months, Exactly That Way, And You Are Guaranteed To Lose Your Excess Blubber.
Can You Show Me A Study Based On That Low Carb Diet, That Subjects Failed To Lose Body Fat On? The Answer Is NO, You Can't. It Doesn't Exist. The Studies You Cite Are Pretend Low Carb Diets, So Of Course They Don't Work.
And, Don't Tell Me You Tried It My Way, And It Didn't Work. Just Admit You Don't Have The Self Disciple To Do The Diet Successfully, And You Quit.
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That's What I Want You To Do, Because Twice Now You Haven't. You Ignored That I Pointed Out That These Studies That Allegedly Show That Low Carb Diets Don't Work, Really Don't Use Low Carb Diets.
Let Me Explain, Once Again, How The Diet Should Be Structured. The Diet Should be Two To One Fats To Proteins, Say About 70% Fats/30% Protein, From Animal Sources, And Never More That 10% Carbs At Any One Meal.
Absolutely NO Cheat Days, NO Cheat Meals, No Cheat Snacks, And NO Carb Refeeds. Do That For Two Months, Exactly That Way, And You Are Guaranteed To Lose Your Excess Blubber.
Can You Show Me A Study Based On That Low Carb Diet, That Subjects Failed To Lose Body Fat On? The Answer Is NO, You Can't. It Doesn't Exist. The Studies You Cite Are Pretend Low Carb Diets, So Of Course They Don't Work.
And, Don't Tell Me You Tried It My Way, And It Didn't Work. Just Admit You Don't Have The Self Disciple To Do The Diet Successfully, And You Quit.
and if you eat a diet of 2000 cals and eat 200gms protein that leaves 1200 cals to split between carbs and fats, now lets say you eat 80gms fat, thats around 700 cals which leaves you with 500 cals of carbs, which is around 125gms of carbs.
Are you seriously telling me that is enough carbs to create such an insulin spike as to make you fat????
Fuck me mate, thats some fairy tale.
Try it your way?
You have already admitted you are a permabulker FFS.
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That's What I Want You To Do, Because Twice Now You Haven't. You Ignored That I Pointed Out That These Studies That Allegedly Show That Low Carb Diets Don't Work, Really Don't Use Low Carb Diets.
Let Me Explain, Once Again, How The Diet Should Be Structured. The Diet Should be Two To One Fats To Proteins, Say About 70% Fats/30% Protein, From Animal Sources, And Never More That 10% Carbs At Any One Meal.
Absolutely NO Cheat Days, NO Cheat Meals, No Cheat Snacks, And NO Carb Refeeds. Do That For Two Months, Exactly That Way, And You Are Guaranteed To Lose Your Excess Blubber.
Can You Show Me A Study Based On That Low Carb Diet, That Subjects Failed To Lose Body Fat On? The Answer Is NO, You Can't. It Doesn't Exist. The Studies You Cite Are Pretend Low Carb Diets, So Of Course They Don't Work.
And, Don't Tell Me You Tried It My Way, And It Didn't Work. Just Admit You Don't Have The Self Disciple To Do The Diet Successfully, And You Quit.
Who said low or no carb doesn't work? It does work, no doubt. What I'm saying is that there is no metabolic advantage to cutting out carbs to reduce insulin. "Insulin spiking" doesn't stop fat loss in a deficit, there is no evidence for this. Bodybuilders who do insulin, most pros, do insulin shots during diets and it doesn't stop their fat loss. Of course they do a bunch of fat loss drugs too but they can get just as ripped as guys who do the same fat loss drugs but don't do insulin. Interestingly, a bb on just gh and no insulin will actually have elevated insulin levels from the gh but the elevated insulin doesn't stop fat loss.
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and if you eat a diet of 2000 cals and eat 200gms protein that leaves 1200 cals to split between carbs and fats, now lets say you eat 80gms fat, thats around 700 cals which leaves you with 500 cals of carbs, which is around 125gms of carbs.
Are you seriously telling me that is enough carbs to create such an insulin spike as to make you fat????
Fuck me mate, thats some fairy tale.
Try it your way?
You have already admitted you are a permabulker FFS.
I Understand That What I Post Is Way Beyond Your Mental Comprehension, So There's Is No Point In Me Trying To Explain It To You Again.
I Don't Know Where I Admitted To Being A "Premabulker?"
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Who said low or no carb doesn't work? It does work, no doubt. What I'm saying is that there is no metabolic advantage to cutting out carbs to reduce insulin. "Insulin spiking" doesn't stop fat loss in a deficit, there is no evidence for this. Bodybuilders who do insulin, most pros, do insulin shots during diets and it doesn't stop their fat loss. Of course they do a bunch of fat loss drugs too but they can get just as ripped as guys who do the same fat loss drugs but don't do insulin. Interestingly, a bb on just gh and no insulin will actually have elevated insulin levels from the gh but the elevated insulin doesn't stop fat loss.
I Don't Care What PEDs Users Do, Because What Ever They Say They Do Is A Lie, Including That They "Don't Do PEDs." What The Drug User BBs Do, Is Eat A Lot Of Carbs, So Of Course Their Insulin Levels Spike. Carbs Spike Insulin Levels Much Higher Than Protein Does. The Protein Insulin Rise, Isn't High Enough For The Body To Go Into "Make Body Fat" Mode, That Comes From The Much Higher Insulin Spike Triggered By Carbs.
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I Don't Care What PEDs Users Do, Because What Ever They Say They Do Is A Lie, Including That They "Don't Do PEDs." What The Drug User BBs Do, Is Eat A Lot Of Carbs, So Of Course Their Insulin Levels Spike. Carbs Spike Insulin Levels Much Higher Than Protein Does. The Protein Insulin Rise, Isn't High Enough For The Body To Go Into "Make Body Fat" Mode, That Comes From The Much Higher Insulin Spike Triggered By Carbs.
unless you are auswitch mode, there is no way you'll gain muscle naturally
fucking MORON
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Come to Cambodia/Fiji with me next week Bolachio, we'll smash the bitches.
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this mother fucker saying this diet makes me fat
while in reality i'm not even gaining weight
probably going to bump it up to 5500-6000kcal to get real good gains
Well, there is quite simple reason for that, but I don't think you want to hear it...but I tell it anyway: You are moron. Quite simple, isn't it? IF you eat that much and doesn't even gain weight, you has to be a moron. There isn't nice way to put it, because it is a fact. You see, building muscle mass by training seem to be easiest thing to do, but only morons would think it really is. You have to have balance all the time, meaning that you don't work out too much or eat too little etc. In your case it is obvious that you instead of gaining mass, are burning muscles by too hard training. Muscle tissue is heavier than fat, so while your muscle mass is descending, your BF% is rising while your weight remain as it is. I have seen this million times, but I never realize that even now there is people so stupid that they still make this mistake ;D
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The only way to settle this argument is with some topless shots in the laundry room.
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I would put money on anabollocko being just as ripped, I back him in his endeavours and his methods ...
Mr roppo, wold you care to share a pic to back up your amazing knowledge?
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That's What I Want You To Do, Because Twice Now You Haven't. You Ignored That I Pointed Out That These Studies That Allegedly Show That Low Carb Diets Don't Work, Really Don't Use Low Carb Diets.
Let Me Explain, Once Again, How The Diet Should Be Structured. The Diet Should be Two To One Fats To Proteins, Say About 70% Fats/30% Protein, From Animal Sources, And Never More That 10% Carbs At Any One Meal.
Absolutely NO Cheat Days, NO Cheat Meals, No Cheat Snacks, And NO Carb Refeeds. Do That For Two Months, Exactly That Way, And You Are Guaranteed To Lose Your Excess Blubber.
Can You Show Me A Study Based On That Low Carb Diet, That Subjects Failed To Lose Body Fat On? The Answer Is NO, You Can't. It Doesn't Exist. The Studies You Cite Are Pretend Low Carb Diets, So Of Course They Don't Work.
And, Don't Tell Me You Tried It My Way, And It Didn't Work. Just Admit You Don't Have The Self Disciple To Do The Diet Successfully, And You Quit.
can you show a study where people in a calorific deficit gained body fat due to spiking of insulin?
Of course people on a low carb diet lost weight, its because they were in a calorific deficit
Are you suggesting that if I ate 4000 cals of fat I would lose body fat in a low carb diet?
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how long have you been on this 5000kcal diet?
Steroids increases metabolism alot but didn't know it did that much
Most would get super fat on 5000kcal
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can you show a study where people in a calorific deficit gained body fat due to spiking of insulin?
Of course people on a low carb diet lost weight, its because they were in a calorific deficit
Are you suggesting that if I ate 4000 cals of fat I would lose body fat in a low carb diet?
I fear you are wasting your time...Eric seems dumb.
Eat less calories then you burn and you will lose weight. Eat more than you burn and you will gain weight. All these fruitarian guys eat almost 100% sugar diet and they are all skinny fucks.
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have you considered just injecting more hormones ???
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somethings fishy here
5000 calories and sitting all day long and farts in an office complex...
pro bb's dont even take in 5000 calories
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what's your bodyweight at chief? I've been force feeding myself lately and it's all going to the right places is. thicker and fuller muscles
I attribute it to my hard training every single day as my gear intake has remained the same
just hit delts today and they are looking fantastic 8) but they are also making my tris look worse coz they are overpowering them FUCK!!!!!
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can you show a study where people in a calorific deficit gained body fat due to spiking of insulin?
Of course people on a low carb diet lost weight, its because they were in a calorific deficit
Are you suggesting that if I ate 4000 cals of fat I would lose body fat in a low carb diet?
As Far As I Know, There Are No Such Studies. In Fact All The Diet Studies Are Funded By The Processed Food Industry, And Supplement Manufacturers, Who Like Making Huge Profits Selling You Cheap Carbs, At Premium Prices.
I Never Said The Low Carb, High Fat And Protein Diet, Should Be Done On A Calorie Deficit. I Never Eat As "Little" As 4000 Calories Per Day. Try To Focus Here (I Know I'm Asking A Lot Of You!): Eating Fat Doesn't Make You Fat. Eating Carbs Makes You Fat. Did That Penetrate Your Numb Skull This Time?
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As Far As I Know, There Are No Such Studies. In Fact All The Diet Studies Are Funded By The Processed Food Industry, And Supplement Manufacturers, Who Like Making Huge Profits Selling You Cheap Carbs, At Premium Prices.
I Never Said The Low Carb, High Fat And Protein Diet, Should Be Done On A Calorie Deficit. I Never Eat As "Little" As 4000 Calories Per Day. Try To Focus Here (I Know I'm Asking A Lot Of You!): Eating Fat Doesn't Make You Fat. Eating Carbs Makes You Fat. Did That Penetrate Your Numb Skull This Time?
Fuck me I really hope you are trolling.
If all the diet studies are funded by the processed food companies where do you get your evidence for your claims?
Are you seriously telling me that eating excess calories in the form of fat doesn't make you fat.
Newsflash buddy, all excess calories will make you fat eventually.
So lets get this right, you are claiming you can eat a surplus, even a huge surplus of calories as long as you keep carbs low and you wont add additional bodyfat, is that what you are claiming?
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Fuck me I really hope you are trolling.
If all the diet studies are funded by the processed food companies where do you get your evidence for your claims?
Are you seriously telling me that eating excess calories in the form of fat doesn't make you fat.
Newsflash buddy, all excess calories will make you fat eventually.
So lets get this right, you are claiming you can eat a surplus, even a huge surplus of calories as long as you keep carbs low and you wont add additional bodyfat, is that what you are claiming?
As Long As It Is The Extremely Low Carb, High Fat And Protein Diet That I Described, And You Are Working Out Hard, As I Do. When I Don't Working Out Hard, I Don't Eat As Much, Just Because I'm Not As Hungry. Still, You Can Eat A Lot, On That Diet, And Not Work Out, And Not Get Fat, Simply Because Low Carbs Means You Won't Trigger The Make Fat Hormones In Your Body, And Much Of The Excess Fat And Protein Will Just Pass Through Your Body, Since The Body Has No Need To Assimilate It. Eating Tons Of Carbs Doesn't Give The Body That Choice, It Will Make Body Fat With Excess Carbs.
The Science Behind This, Goes Back 175 Years To Liebig, Dumas, and Bossingault, The Founders Of Nutrition Science. At This Point It Not Rocket Surgery! Might Be A Good Summer Reading Project For You.
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Godammit too much ignorance in this thread, the only hormone responsible for fat storage in the body is insulin, if you are crashing your blood sugar levels you will store fat even if your calories are not high, high calories foods with slow digesting carbs is the best way to gain weight for a bodybuilder, some of you guys have no clue about nutrition.
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Godammit too much ignorance in this thread, the only hormone responsible for fat storage in the body is insulin, if you are crashing your blood sugar levels you will store fat even if your calories are not high, high calories foods with slow digesting carbs is the best way to gain weight for a bodybuilder, some of you guys have no clue about nutrition.
What about fruitarians...diet is usually 90/10/10
90% of calories coming from sugars
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What about fruitarians...diet is usually 90/10/10
90% of calories coming from sugars
Sugar in whole fruits does not cash your blood sugar because the fiber in the fruit slows down digestion, the problem is refined sugar its like a foreign substance to the body.
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That's What I Want You To Do, Because Twice Now You Haven't. You Ignored That I Pointed Out That These Studies That Allegedly Show That Low Carb Diets Don't Work, Really Don't Use Low Carb Diets.
Let Me Explain, Once Again, How The Diet Should Be Structured. The Diet Should be Two To One Fats To Proteins, Say About 70% Fats/30% Protein, From Animal Sources, And Never More That 10% Carbs At Any One Meal.
Can You Show Me A Study Based On That Low Carb Diet, That Subjects Failed To Lose Body Fat On? The Answer Is NO, You Can't. It Doesn't Exist. The Studies You Cite Are Pretend Low Carb Diets, So Of Course They Don't Work.
And, Don't Tell Me You Tried It My Way, And It Didn't Work. Just Admit You Don't Have The Self Disciple To Do The Diet Successfully, And You Quit.
Here is some spoon feeding for you from the study quoted by Van, "For the first four weeks, they were fed the following diet: High-carbohydrate, high-sugar diet (HCD). 50% of total calories from carbohydrate (338 g/day), and 25% of total calories from sugar. 15% protein. 2,739 Calories per day. For the second four weeks, they were fed the following diet: Very-low-carbohydrate, low-sugar ketogenic diet (KD). 5% of total calories from carbohydrate (36 g/day), and 2% of total calories from sugar. 15% protein. 2,738 Calories per day. ..."
In conclusion, you are still a dummy. Any more excuses?
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What about fruitarians...diet is usually 90/10/10
90% of calories coming from sugars
Fruits Contain Fructose. Fructose Can Be Used Immediately For Energy, But Can't Be Stored As Glycogen, As Most Other Sugars Can, Any Fructose Digested, And Not Immediately Used For Energy, Is Converted To Body Fat By The Liver.
Fruitarians Come In three Varieties: Fat, Skinny Fat, And Liars, The Latter Being The Animal Rights Lunatic, Leaders Of The Fruitarian Movement.
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Here is some spoon feeding for you from the study quoted by Van, "For the first four weeks, they were fed the following diet: High-carbohydrate, high-sugar diet (HCD). 50% of total calories from carbohydrate (338 g/day), and 25% of total calories from sugar. 15% protein. 2,739 Calories per day. For the second four weeks, they were fed the following diet: Very-low-carbohydrate, low-sugar ketogenic diet (KD). 5% of total calories from carbohydrate (36 g/day), and 2% of total calories from sugar. 15% protein. 2,738 Calories per day. ..."
In conclusion, you are still a dummy. Any more excuses?
I Never Posted Any Excuses. What Foods Exactly Did They Use? Did They Use Protein That Was From Whey Protein Powder, That Really Contained 34% Carbs? We Don't Know.
You're The Dummy For Believing In So-Called "Scientific" Studies, Funded By The Food Industry, That Are Little More Than Propaganda, For The Garbage, That The Food Industry Sells To You. Eat It Up Dummy!
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its bullshit!
admit it Halo you dont consume 5000 calories every day. No way
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I Never Posted Any Excuses. What Foods Exactly Did They Use? Did They Use Protein That Was From Whey Protein Powder, That Really Contained 34% Carbs? We Don't Know.
You're The Dummy For Believing In So-Called "Scientific" Studies, Funded By The Food Industry, That Are Little More Than Propaganda, For The Garbage, That The Food Industry Sell To You. Eat It Up Dummy!
As expected, more denial/excuses as to why nothing supports what you say. Good job, slugger!! ;)
No more spoon feeding, but if you love a diet," that calorie-for-calorie, a very-low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet substantially reduces insulin secretion, transiently increases metabolic rate, and impairs fat loss. As such, it once again falsifies a popular incarnation of the carbohydrate-insulin hypothesis of obesity."
and takes double the time to accomplish the same effect (On the KD, the volunteers lost the same amount of body fat in one month that they lost in two weeks on the HCD) more power to you.
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its bullshit!
admit it Halo you dont consume 5000 calories every day. No way
if he is indeed a real person then it is even more autistic to consume only chicken and rise year round like he allegedly does.
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Well, there is quite simple reason for that, but I don't think you want to hear it...but I tell it anyway: You are moron. Quite simple, isn't it? IF you eat that much and doesn't even gain weight, you has to be a moron. There isn't nice way to put it, because it is a fact. You see, building muscle mass by training seem to be easiest thing to do, but only morons would think it really is. You have to have balance all the time, meaning that you don't work out too much or eat too little etc. In your case it is obvious that you instead of gaining mass, are burning muscles by too hard training. Muscle tissue is heavier than fat, so while your muscle mass is descending, your BF% is rising while your weight remain as it is. I have seen this million times, but I never realize that even now there is people so stupid that they still make this mistake ;D
i challenge you to a pose down
right here right now mother fucker
we still bodybuildin!
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how long have you been on this 5000kcal diet?
Steroids increases metabolism alot but didn't know it did that much
Most would get super fat on 5000kcal
quite a while but i just calculated how much i've been eating pretty much
i wasnt sure about how much rice i was eating that's all
now that i measured i'm sure i was eating this much
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its bullshit!
admit it Halo you dont consume 5000 calories every day. No way
this is my basic diet
i sometimes eat also cheat meals on top of that (kebabs, steak dinners, pastries)
???
u mad i'm on my way to hugeness
keep lolipopin, cupcake
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going to get sooo fucking huge
HUGE
1kg chicken
614 grams of rice (i always use the rice to meet a round number using backwards calculation, therefore it looks like a funny number)
300grams oats powder
4 scoops of whey protons
40grams of broken flax seeds, blended in my shakes
total macros
5000kcal
417,4 g protein
687,7 g carbs
57,4 g fats
cant wait to get huge
HUGE
epic case for future toilet abuse
#shithappens
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epic case for future toilet abuse
#shithappens
your toilet is taking way more abuse from that filthy wife of yours menstruation and other pussy discharge
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this is my basic diet
i sometimes eat also cheat meals on top of that (kebabs, steak dinners, pastries)
???
u mad i'm on my way to hugeness
keep lolipopin, cupcake
Admittedly
jealous you can shovel so much food >:(
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i challenge you to a pose down
right here right now mother fucker
we still bodybuildin!
A challenge from the mentally challenged moron? Oh gee, I never see it coming...you twat. Ok. How are you going to prove that picture you upload is you, so there isn't any doubt or risk for the faul play? You can't, so why don't you instead of that, go and fuck your hanging ass?
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just woke up and seem to have lost half a kilogram
god fucking damnit
i'll never get big that way
time to up the calories to 5500
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Can't wait for August the 6th.
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Can't wait for August the 6th.
what happens on that date ???
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woke up and lost 100grams of weight since yesterday ???
fucking fuck
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I'm not doubting you eat 5000 cals a day, honestly its not that hard to do, but don't you get bored eating only 4 foods?
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woke up and lost 100grams of weight since yesterday ???
fucking fuck
fuck the scale and tape measure focus on the mirror and photographs
when you gonna post up some in the gym action shots chief?
ez bar curl makes a good photo as does rope pressdowns, show that marc joo lobliner what some real triceps look like
a dip photo from the side would be cool too, in fact there's a coolass shot of mentzer on dips with those awesome fucking tris 8)
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used to religiously get down 5000 cals everyday when i first started gear. after several months i was big and thick but didn't look good. haven't gone above 3500 (guestimate) for years, bigger now than back then.
up the dose (within reason, growing into it) cycle calories, no need to go above 3500 for most believe it or not, see the results.
good tips from Zack Khan:
- Bulking-up diet programs won’t produce any more muscle growth than ingesting an ideal amount of nutrients. Sorry, but it’s simply not possible to force additional muscle growth by overfeeding. work with your body not against it mofo's (if your phoo is not solid then you are not digesting your nutrients properly)..
- Bulking up develops insulin resistance, which makes it harder in the long run to gain muscle. What happens when you bulk up is that carbohydrates will go preferentially to fat stores, not to muscle tissue nah am saying... if you don't am sorry lool..
- Bulking up will make it harder for you to get leaner because insulin resistance is hard to reverse. The fatter you get, the harder it becomes to get lean. Female bodybuilders learn this fact quickly, as it is considerably harder for women to reach the low body-fat levels required for competition. So ladies don't get too much junk on your trunk!!!
- The fatter you get the uglier you get, the more aromatase enzyme your body will produce. In the extreme terms, getting fat could be considered a form of self-castration, as your own testosterone will be converted into the female hormone estrogen and you will suffer many unwanted side effects. If you’re a man and you enjoy wearing a bra, go right ahead and get fatter.
- The lower your percentage of body fat, the better your body becomes at nutrient partitioning. This means individuals with low body fat are more effective at storing the ingested nutrients in the muscle (as muscle tissue or glycogen) or in the liver (as glycogen) and less effective at storing nutrients as body fat. To put it in simpler terms, leaner individuals can eat more nutrients without gaining fat.
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fuck the scale and tape measure focus on the mirror and photographs
when you gonna post up some in the gym action shots chief?
ez bar curl makes a good photo as does rope pressdowns, show that marc joo lobliner what some real triceps look like
a dip photo from the side would be cool too, in fact there's a coolass shot of mentzer on dips with those awesome fucking tris 8)
this usually leads to severe self delusion
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fuck the scale and tape measure focus on the mirror and photographs
when you gonna post up some in the gym action shots chief?
ez bar curl makes a good photo as does rope pressdowns, show that marc joo lobliner what some real triceps look like
a dip photo from the side would be cool too, in fact there's a coolass shot of mentzer on dips with those awesome fucking tris 8)
i could go to the gym in the midle of the night and do so when nobody is around
seems awkward with people there
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used to religiously get down 5000 cals everyday when i first started gear. after several months i was big and thick but didn't look good. haven't gone above 3500 (guestimate) for years, bigger now than back then.
up the dose (within reason, growing into it) cycle calories, no need to go above 3500 for most believe it or not, see the results.
good tips from Zack Khan:
- Bulking-up diet programs won’t produce any more muscle growth than ingesting an ideal amount of nutrients. Sorry, but it’s simply not possible to force additional muscle growth by overfeeding. work with your body not against it mofo's (if your phoo is not solid then you are not digesting your nutrients properly)..
- Bulking up develops insulin resistance, which makes it harder in the long run to gain muscle. What happens when you bulk up is that carbohydrates will go preferentially to fat stores, not to muscle tissue nah am saying... if you don't am sorry lool..
- Bulking up will make it harder for you to get leaner because insulin resistance is hard to reverse. The fatter you get, the harder it becomes to get lean. Female bodybuilders learn this fact quickly, as it is considerably harder for women to reach the low body-fat levels required for competition. So ladies don't get too much junk on your trunk!!!
- The fatter you get the uglier you get, the more aromatase enzyme your body will produce. In the extreme terms, getting fat could be considered a form of self-castration, as your own testosterone will be converted into the female hormone estrogen and you will suffer many unwanted side effects. If you’re a man and you enjoy wearing a bra, go right ahead and get fatter.
- The lower your percentage of body fat, the better your body becomes at nutrient partitioning. This means individuals with low body fat are more effective at storing the ingested nutrients in the muscle (as muscle tissue or glycogen) or in the liver (as glycogen) and less effective at storing nutrients as body fat. To put it in simpler terms, leaner individuals can eat more nutrients without gaining fat.
if you arent gaining weight for months and years it means you are going nowhere
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the parts of the gym ceiling that have large ceiling opening for natural light
that is where you look best when you stand
that overhead bright natural light on a white as a ghost jacked up mofo
looks amazing
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your toilet is taking way more abuse from that filthy wife of yours menstruation and other pussy discharge
My 9th (and current ) wife is past menopause.
We may be old, but you're still angry about how bad you're butt smells.
Hope this helps.
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woke up and lost 100grams of weight since yesterday ???
fucking fuck
Look dude, just accept reality and forget about it.
Give into that little voice inside begging for estrogen and a full Kaitlyn Jenner makeover.
Hey now, if you're balloon knot looks sexy after the makeover, plenty of getbiggers will be thrilled to pop you in the kiester.
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Eat
Lift
Sleep
Repeat
This should be your mantra.........fuck all the dumb overcomplicated bullshit.
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lost 200 grams since yesterday :o :o :o
fucking fuck
ok definitely upping the calories to 5500 now
i refuse to be a twink like all you losers
and howard you should kill yourself fucking unfunny bastard
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lost 200 grams since yesterday :o :o :o
fucking fuck
ok definitely upping the calories to 5500 now
i refuse to be a twink like all you losers
and howard you should kill yourself fucking unfunny bastard
Why don't you prove what twat you really are, and write here how many hours, sets, reps and pounds you are lifting per week, and amount of cardio? 98% of amateur bodybuilders are training too much. After reading your opinions about the different things, I am ready to bet that you aren't in that 2% who are training wisely. 5000 calories and 400grams of protein would be enough for the guy who is on gear and weights 300lb. Only way to get weight loss with those calories, is burn more than your intake is, so you are either fat fucking whale, or you are training too much. If you weight 400lb and your body fat % is more than 70, you are in right way, but any other cases you are just another moron who is burning his muscles away by overtraining ;D
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And take Benzos like Wes.
MAKE GETBIG GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And take Benzos like Wes.
MAKE GETBIG GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You`re mom takes it up the ass with glee and gusto ...............pussy!! ;')
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god fucking damnit i need to go to my cousin's wedding in about an hour, on my one day of weekend after a 65-70 hour 6 day work week, only one day of weekend and start all over again tomorrow >:(
god fucking damned assholes with their marriages make me wanna smash their face to bloody pulp
i'd rather go bang arms on friday night with everybody admiring me in the gym :( :( :( :(
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god fucking damnit i need to go to my cousin's wedding in about an hour, on my one day of weekend after a 65-70 hour 6 day work week, only one day of weekend and start all over again tomorrow >:(
god fucking damned assholes with their marriages make me wanna smash their face to bloody pulp
i'd rather go bang arms on friday night with everybody admiring me in the gym :( :( :( :(
OK, I know you're no fan of me, but let me ask you a serious question.
Why bother going to this wedding?
Seriously, it's obvious you dread going and it's only your cousin.
You work long hours and deserve to do what you want when off.
Why get mad? Just blow it off and do what you want. Fuk it, if they don't like it.
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OK, I know you're no fan of me, but let me ask you a serious question.
Why bother going to this wedding?
Seriously, it's obvious you dread going and it's only your cousin.
You work long hours and deserve to do what you want when off.
Why get mad? Just blow it off and do what you want. Fuk it, if they don't like it.
to do my dad a favor basically
it's the wedding of his brother's daughter
i dont care about the brother or the daughter
just doing it for my dad
gotta put family first, amirite ??? :D
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eating this right now
this is one of my typical meals
getting fucking HUGE
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eating this right now
this is one of my typical meals
getting fucking HUGE
Fucking hell mate, how you must choke down all that bland tasting shit is beyond me. I'd be gagging after 1/8 of the rice
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Fucking hell mate, how you must choke down all that bland tasting shit is beyond me. I'd be gagging after 1/8 of the rice
i already finished it and have another one of those to eat in 1-2 hours before i go to bed (i missed a meal in the morning and gotta get all this muscle building food down if it's the last thing i do)
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what actually happened is i was forced to attend a wedding yesterday so actually skipped that meal yesterday now i gotta get it down today so i can go back to my plan tomorrow
i cant just cook 2/3 of a day's food, it would be impossible since the chicken comes in 1KG bags
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i already finished it and have another one of those to eat in 1-2 hours before i go to bed (i missed a meal in the morning and gotta get all this muscle building food down if it's the last thing i do)
The chicken ain't that bad, I usually have 3 to 4 medium sized breasts on my evening meal (heavily seasoned, can't eat plain anymore) but the White rice is a fucking killer
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The chicken ain't that bad, I usually have 3 to 4 medium sized breasts on my evening meal (heavily seasoned, can't eat plain anymore) but the White rice is a fucking killer
i can easily shovel down 300-400 grams of uncooked weight rice (well this was about 300grams) (half of 614 grams) (cooked it weighs a lot more) (feel like i could have eaten a lot more even tho stomach is protruding like crazy right now)
aint nothing to it but to do it yeah buddy got to get deep time to bleed
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i can easily shovel down 300-400 grams of uncooked weight rice (well this was about 300grams) (half of 614 grams) (cooked it weighs a lot more) (feel like i could have eaten a lot more even tho stomach is protruding like crazy right now)
aint nothing to it but to do it yeah buddy got to get deep time to bleed
have 2 chicken breasts and a pizza.
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have 2 chicken breasts and a pizza.
are you insane?
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goal physique
(http://api.ning.com/files/NIIlY*zRfQ-zbjHxeybwmcKcw6PQ3aAscvSgWJJZeEW2xj-I9FYswKVkTmyK1u3KE6jsxOMAqSc4Od7n3-3DnLj1HNOQlmyG/EssaObaid.jpg?width=600&height=600)
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i cant stress enough how much this is actually the end goal
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are you insane?
eating all that rice for zero benefit is insane.
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eating all that rice for zero benefit is insane.
²only a moron thinks pizza is the same as rice for the body
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Hey halo how many sets do you do each day and how much other physical activity besides bbing?
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²only a moron thinks pizza is the same as rice for the body
He's just battling down the cognitive dissonance that comes from seeing someone with a better physique on a 'clean' diet.
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i can easily shovel down 300-400 grams of uncooked weight rice (well this was about 300grams) (half of 614 grams) (cooked it weighs a lot more) (feel like i could have eaten a lot more even tho stomach is protruding like crazy right now)
aint nothing to it but to do it yeah buddy got to get deep time to bleed
why don't you add in an oral like drol or dbol, since you don't want to run slin?
and how's the eq working out for ya? eq is shit drug and deca pwns the fuck out of it
you gotta remember chief this game we play is a game of illusion 😎 i weigh the same as i did last summer but i look bigger, fuller, and rounder than i did last year
so fuck the scale, use the mirror and photos
you should only use the scale if you are gonna compete in some weight class for bb or powerlifting
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i cant stress enough how much this is actually the end goal
How much gear do you plan on running eventually if that's your end goal?
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He's just battling down the cognitive dissonance that comes from seeing someone with a better physique on a 'clean' diet.
no such thing as "clean food", there are proteins carbs and fats.
Food is food
Essentially carbon hydrogen oxygen and nitrogen in various different forms and a few molecules of various things added.
Wake up people.
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Hey halo how many sets do you do each day and how much other physical activity besides bbing?
i work out almost everyday and on weekends i often work out twice a day and also yesterday wwhich was a working day i worked out before work (arms ) and after work (chest)
i do usually 4 - 6 exercises of 3-4 sets per muscle
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How much gear do you plan on running eventually if that's your end goal?
the future will tell
probably a lot
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why don't you add in an oral like drol or dbol, since you don't want to run slin?
and how's the eq working out for ya? eq is shit drug and deca pwns the fuck out of it
you gotta remember chief this game we play is a game of illusion 😎 i weigh the same as i did last summer but i look bigger, fuller, and rounder than i did last year
so fuck the scale, use the mirror and photos
you should only use the scale if you are gonna compete in some weight class for bb or powerlifting
my goal is not to achieve illusions
my goal is to achieve actual progress, therefore the scale and tape measure are key instruments
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no such thing as "clean food", there are proteins carbs and fats.
Food is food
Essentially carbon hydrogen oxygen and nitrogen in various different forms and a few molecules of various things added.
Wake up people.
why are people like you so determined to "educate" us on this issue?
fuck off
thanx
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why are people like you so determined to "educate" us on this issue?
fuck off
thanx
Joons turn on the account tonight. ;)
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not only will fast food make you fat
it also costs a lot more than chicken and rice
fucking morons
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not only will fast food make you fat
it also costs a lot more than chicken and rice
fucking morons
http://www.today.com/health/man-loses-56-pounds-after-eating-only-mcdonalds-six-months-2D79329158
Too many calories make you fat
Fucking moron.
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http://www.today.com/health/man-loses-56-pounds-after-eating-only-mcdonalds-six-months-2D79329158
Too many calories make you fat
Fucking moron.
i really want to put a flamethrower to your face guy
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i really want to put a flamethrower to your face guy
thats not something Halo would ever say....
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chicken breast, noodles oninons and mushrooms stir fried with a nice black bean sauce
Same cals as your dumbass chicken and rice.
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chicken breast, noodles oninons and mushrooms stir fried with a nice black bean sauce
Same cals as your dumbass chicken and rice.
expensive and too much work
stop forcing your stupid garbage on me
i will never do that kind of shit
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expensive and too much work
stop forcing your stupid garbage on me
i will never do that kind of shit
I thought you wrote earlier you had 4 times the net worth of another poster on here?
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so called junk/fast food is much more expensive than clean food in fact
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I thought you wrote earlier you had 4 times the net worth of another poster on here?
it is not my goal to spend my money on fast food
get it in your head mother fucker
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so called junk/fast food is much more expensive than clean food in fact
buying from a restaurant sure
but not when it comes to groceries
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buying from a restaurant sure
but not when it comes to groceries
are u kidding me
a pizza will easily cost 5 euro in the supermarket
for 5 euro u can get a whole lot of rice
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buying from a restaurant sure
but not when it comes to groceries
restaurant is the worst but even at the grocery shop it's worse
for example rice and potatoes are much less expensive than potato chip and other processed foods like little debbies, m&m's etc
too bad rice and potatoes are so goddamn boring to eat
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restaurant is the worst but even at the grocery shop it's worse
for example rice and potatoes are much less expensive than potato chip and other processed foods like little debbies, m&m's etc
okay maybe you're right
I dont even look at the food bill like Halo does, turning every nikle and dime ???
arn't you supposed to be some kind of business man Halo.. fucks sake
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okay maybe you're right
I dont even look at the food bill like Halo does, turning every nikle and dime ???
arn't you supposed to be some kind of business man Halo.. fucks sake
good luck on your retirement by 70 years old goals
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okay maybe you're right
I dont even look at the food bill like Halo does, turning every nikle and dime
arn't you supposed to be some kind of business man Halo.. fucks sake
maybe he's Jewish ???
and as far as clean food goes im too goddamn lazy to prepare that shit multiple times per day, once is enough in my case twice max
just rip open a bag of potatoe chips and eat them fuckers or spend a good half hour peeling and then boiling some potatoes, fuck that shit
I sometimes eat eggs mixed in with oatmeal for breakkie, just put the dry oats and 3 eggs and a small jug and pour in some hot water and viola it's ready
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bunch of idiots with high cholesterol and high food bills in this thread
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Fuckin hell.
Just eat a normal balanced diet you fucking morons.
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Fuckin hell.
Just eat a normal balanced diet you fucking morons.
YES
JUST BE NORMAL
WHAT A GREAT POST
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE guy I HATE YOU SO SO MUCH
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bunch of idiots with high cholesterol and high food bills in this thread
nope eat almost exclusively only lean beef, chicken, cod, salmon and rice/potatoes. and lots of vegies
cheat with a meal every other day
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Halo maybe you should ask your boss why you make minimum wage in your field so you can afford some lean beef for the best gains
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Halo maybe you should ask your boss why you make minimum wage in your field so you can afford some lean beef for the best gains
i make definitely above what most people make in this country
and there is only more money to be made, i'm just getting started bitches
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Why not pasta in place of rice for some meals? Just as cheap as rice, tastes better and don't need as much to equal same amount of carbs
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Why not pasta in place of rice for some meals? Just as cheap as rice, tastes better and don't need as much to equal same amount of carbs
just as cheap? are you fucking insane?
it's like 3-4 times the price
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YES
JUST BE NORMAL
WHAT A GREAT POST
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE guy I HATE YOU SO SO MUCH
Yes, normal...
(https://s31.postimg.org/iqas2oqi3/180716_15st_10lb.png)
Today I ate a chicken mayo bread roll, a bacon muffin, I had chicken and noodles a chocolate flapjack and a whey shake.
Two packs of chocolate, and biscuits.
Tomorrow I will eat a bit less to make up for the extra I had today.
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just as cheap? are you fucking insane?
it's like 3-4 times the price
poverty stricken pisspot of peace.
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maybe you should stop blowing your money on black hookers
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maybe you should stop blowing your money on black hookers
also stopped that for the most part
poverty stricken pisspot of peace.
probably bigger net worth than you but whatever buddy
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no such thing as "clean food", there are proteins carbs and fats.
Food is food
Essentially carbon hydrogen oxygen and nitrogen in various different forms and a few molecules of various things added.
Wake up people.
hence the quotations. completely missed the point, as usual.
also lol @ the chemistry lesson. how about we tackle biology next: "people are people. essentially uracil, cytosine, thymine, adenine and guanine in different forms."
give a simpleton some success and watch it go to his head... ::)
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Yes, normal...
(https://s31.postimg.org/iqas2oqi3/180716_15st_10lb.png)
Today I ate a chicken mayo bread roll, a bacon muffin, I had chicken and noodles a chocolate flapjack and a whey shake.
Two packs of chocolate, and biscuits.
Tomorrow I will eat a bit less to make up for the extra I had today.
and fyi, usually the guy who is leaner and more muscular posts pics to "win the argument"
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hence the quotations. completely missed the point, as usual.
also lol @ the chemistry lesson. how about we tackle biology next: "people are people. essentially uracil, cytosine, thymine, adenine and guanine in different forms."
give a simpleton some success and watch it go to his head... ::)
Sorry, of course we should listen to a neurotic moronic irrational crackpot who has virtually destroyed his body through starvation.
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Yes, normal...
(https://s31.postimg.org/iqas2oqi3/180716_15st_10lb.png)
Today I ate a chicken mayo bread roll, a bacon muffin, I had chicken and noodles a chocolate flapjack and a whey shake.
Two packs of chocolate, and biscuits.
Tomorrow I will eat a bit less to make up for the extra I had today.
one of those guys who uses less gear than anybody, trains less hard than anybody, eats less strict than anybody, looks better than anybody, but for some obscure reason never improves and doesn't seem interested in doing so, despite obviously having almost unlimited potential for growth, considering all these factors
or
maybe just a lying sack of shit who wants to look special by lying
still unsure
one or the other ::)
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Sorry, of course we should listen to a neurotic moronic irrational crackpot who has virtually destroyed his body through starvation.
listen to? am i giving advice? ???
but funny you should say that, since i got to that state doing EXACTLY WHAT YOU ADVOCATE. i forgot the steroids, unfortunately.
"has destroyed"... except i've recovered just fine. i guess this concept is had to grasp for someone still stuck in the past, clinging to the long shadow of no one and gal.
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just as cheap? are you fucking insane?
it's like 3-4 times the price
It's fucking 29 pence a bag it couldn't be any cheaper?
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and fyi, usually the guy who is leaner and more muscular posts pics to "win the argument"
thats me eating normally, I tend to tidy it up a bit to look like this, I still dont eat plain rice and chicken though
Oh, and Im 20 years older than him as well
(https://s32.postimg.org/4xrq5enh1/140516.png)
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one of those guys who uses less gear than anybody, trains less hard than anybody, eats less strict than anybody, looks better than anybody, but for some obscure reason never improves and doesn't seem interested in doing so, despite obviously having almost unlimited potential for growth, considering all these factors
or
maybe just a lying sack of shit who wants to look special by lying
still unsure
one or the other ::)
Thats the pretty much a description of yourself, its quite perceptive, maybe there is a reason why that post makes a lot of sense.
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Thats the pretty much a description of yourself, its quite perceptive, maybe there is a reason why that post makes a lot of sense.
funny i thought in this thread you were mocking how others diet hard and you blow them away with little to no effort
guess it was so accurate that it scares you
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funny i thought in this thread you were mocking how others diet hard and you blow them away with little to no effort
guess it was so accurate that it scares you
Im not claiming to blow anyone away, Im just saying eating chicken and plain rice isnt going to get you any more gains than eating a balanced diet.
You have also given yourself away TBH, the real halo was always respectful and polite in our e-mail exchanges, he was a genuinely nice guy.
All this bravado simply isnt him.
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Im not claiming to blow anyone away, Im just saying eating chicken and plain rice isnt going to get you any more gains than eating a balanced diet.
You have also given yourself away TBH, the real halo was always respectful and polite in our e-mail exchanges, he was a genuinely nice guy.
All this bravado simply isnt him.
no more mister nice guy
fuck you and the other liar filt
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no more mister nice guy
fuck you and the other liar filt
nevermore. ;)
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no more mister nice guy
fuck you and the other liar filt
I told you you would be angry when you started the trening hard. ;)
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On get big you can win an arguemeng by having a better most muscular. You can't do that in real life
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I told you you would be angry when you started the trening hard. ;)
this is why i fear tren and stick to test and eq for the time being
also insomnia and extreme hairloss
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i work out almost everyday and on weekends i often work out twice a day and also yesterday wwhich was a working day i worked out before work (arms ) and after work (chest)
i do usually 4 - 6 exercises of 3-4 sets per muscle
Just like I think you do. What that means, is simply that you are in continuous state of burnout, and by that your metabolism can't utilize enough protein to your muscles to maintain growth, no matter how much you eat. This is why there is lot's of bodybuilders, but only few who are good enough to the competitions. Ask from yourself, are you training for marathon? If you are, your amount of training is ok, but if you try to get bigger muscles, you never get them that way.
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Just like I think you do. What that means, is simply that you are in continuous state of burnout, and by that your metabolism can't utilize enough protein to your muscles to maintain growth, no matter how much you eat. This is why there is lot's of bodybuilders, but only few who are good enough to the competitions. Ask from yourself, are you training for marathon? If you are, your amount of training is ok, but if you try to get bigger muscles, you never get them that way.
IF the person posting is the one in the pics and the drug regimen is what he says it is then he has made a lot of quality gains. He has done all the right things. Do you look better than him?
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Fuckin hell.
Just eat a normal balanced diet you fucking morons.
all that fucking matters is calories chief
fyi, you don't need that much protien, I'd say that .5 grams per pound is enough
training comes first then gear and "diet" comes in dead last
the looks of my physique have improved greatly (better shape, details, and separation) thanks to harder and more effective training, and my gear intake is even less than before
training is king
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It's fucking 29 pence a bag it couldn't be any cheaper?
potatoes are cheaper and more clean so to speak
I had a bb tell me to only eat rice, potatoes and oatmeal for carbs, pasta and white bread were a no no in his opinion
but fuck me! can you get any duller eating that boring ass shit ???
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dj why are you pretending to be an authority when you just admitted you made zero actual progress (lean body weight increase, arm measure increase etc, strength), just "illusion" progress?
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dj why are you pretending to be an authority when you just admitted you made zero actual progress (lean body weight increase, arm measure increase etc, strength), just "illusion" progress?
if you go to the roid section and check my thread my digging the deca you can see some of my progress and you'll see a few comments on this progress
I've maybe gained a few pounds like 2 or 3 but I just look better, these illusion points im talking bout
when I made an arm focus some years back I gained over an inch on each arm while my bodyweight and bodyfat remained the same
I gotta admit that it's hard to explain but maybe I lost pec and lat mass while adding it to my arms ???
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if you go to the roid section and check my thread my digging the deca you can see some of my progress and you'll see a few comments on this progress
I've maybe gained a few pounds like 2 or 3 but I just look better, these illusion points im talking bout
when I made an arm focus some years back I gained over an inch on each arm while my bodyweight and bodyfat remained the same
I gotta admit that it's hard to explain but maybe I lost pec and lat mass while adding it to my arms ???
as long as u gain inches on your arms it's not illusion, it's real progress
when there is no measurable progress, there is no progress
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IF the person posting is the one in the pics and the drug regimen is what he says it is then he has made a lot of quality gains. He has done all the right things. Do you look better than him?
If twat who is eating 5000 calories per day including +400grams of protein is losing weight, he is training too hard. If you and him are too fucking stupid to understand this fact, do you really think I give a shit? At the end, what would be the worst case scenario if he continue that madness? Serious case of over training, which according to you guys, is just a myth ;D
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If twat who is eating 5000 calories per day including +400grams of protein is losing weight, he is training too hard. If you and him are too fucking stupid to understand this fact, do you really think I give a shit? At the end, what would be the worst case scenario if he continue that madness? Serious case of over training, which according to you guys, is just a myth ;D
You have no idea what I think of that diet nor what my views are on optimal training. However, if someone has made great progress over time then the right ingredients must have been there to make it possible.
Looking at a snapshot of the scale, one day to the next, says little of the longer term trend. You can be in a calorie surplus and lose 2kg night to morning. It's water and what is in your intestines and bladder etc. What's happening one week or month to the next is what's important. Plus gains come to a halt pretty quickly no matter what unless there is a big change in stimulus (training, drugs, food).
We are ALL stagnant or regressing and regaining most of the time.
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during my bp comp days I'd easily make the 65's from a buck 70 just not eating breakkie and drinking strong black coffee to make myself take a good dump, so that's 5 pounds lost just from not eating breakkie and taking a big dump
once I lost my 12 pounds by taking a double dose laxative the night before weigh in, and one more dose the morning of, and I didn't eat or drink anything til weigh in at 6 pm the night before the meet this was only through shitting with the laxatives and no food or water til 6 pm, I used no diuretics or did no sweating for this 12 pound loss
after weigh in I gouged on junk food and Gatorade and weighed in 3 pounds heavier than when I started, so I gained back 15 fucking pounds, so all of the gain/loss was water and "food in the gut/intestines"
so just like van the man said "it's water and what's in your gut"
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i'm going to get fucking huge
and there's nothing you bitches can do to stop me
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during my bp comp days I'd easily make the 65's from a buck 70 just not eating breakkie and drinking strong black coffee to make myself take a good dump, so that's 5 pounds lost just from not eating breakkie and taking a big dump
once I lost my 12 pounds by taking a double dose laxative the night before weigh in, and one more dose the morning of, and I didn't eat or drink anything til weigh in at 6 pm the night before the meet this was only through shitting with the laxatives and no food or water til 6 pm, I used no diuretics or did no sweating for this 12 pound loss
after weigh in I gouged on junk food and Gatorade and weighed in 3 pounds heavier than when I started, so I gained back 15 fucking pounds, so all of the gain/loss was water and "food in the gut/intestines"
so just like van the man said "it's water and what's in your gut"
poop itself doesn't weigh much. not even 1 lbs for a big shit.
Piss weighs alot more.
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poop itself doesn't weigh much. not even 1 lbs for a big shit.
Piss weighs alot more.
that's true, but the time when I took the laxatives I shit like 4 times all being diarrhea and the last 2 I was basically just shitting water lol
my coach told me that one can have up to 12 pounds of what he called "food in the gut"
his best cut was 21 pounds in half a day going from 241 to make the 220's
they say it's pretty dangerous if you lose more than 10% of your bodyweight in this quick fashion
powerlifters are more reckless than bb
but the question is.... who are the better "athletes" ;D
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dj do you take a lot of stimulants ?
your posts seem to be written by somebody who is really amped up all the time
srs question
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to do my dad a favor basically
it's the wedding of his brother's daughter
i dont care about the brother or the daughter
just doing it for my dad
gotta put family first, amirite ??? :D
If you're dad helped you out with :
1. buying food for your muscle growth needs as a boy
2. spotting you in the gym
3. having sex with your mom so they could produce YOU
Then by all means do him a solid and show up.
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If you're dad helped you out with :
1. buying food for your muscle growth needs as a boy
2. spotting you in the gym
3. having sex with your mom so they could produce YOU
Then by all means do him a solid and show up.
should have picked a female without MPB genes in her family tho but yes of course my dad is a hero 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D
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You have no idea what I think of that diet nor what my views are on optimal training. However, if someone has made great progress over time then the right ingredients must have been there to make it possible.
Looking at a snapshot of the scale, one day to the next, says little of the longer term trend. You can be in a calorie surplus and lose 2kg night to morning. It's water and what is in your intestines and bladder etc. What's happening one week or month to the next is what's important. Plus gains come to a halt pretty quickly no matter what unless there is a big change in stimulus (training, drugs, food).
We are ALL stagnant or regressing and regaining most of the time.
So why that great progress isn't anywhere to see? Because the progress in 98% of bodybuilders is only in their minds. They pose at the mirror and admire themselves, but in reality they look like crap. Then there is that 2% who by the pure luck, by the knowledge or by the advise find the right balance, and they became a competitive bodybuilders. When we are talking about a moron, who believes all and every fucking conspiracy theories, we aren't talking about the person who has enough brain matter for even the bodybuilding..
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dj do you take a lot of stimulants ?
your posts seem to be written by somebody who is really amped up all the time
srs question
I lay it on thick here, I'm really not this big of a douche IRL 😇
but I do train twice a day every single day and I take some kind of pre-workout before each session
I've been thinking about running balo as a pre-workout, but I'm not sure if I want to get that aggressive 😄
tren ace made me an outright prick, so halo could make it worse
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still no weight gain at all
gues i'll have to add another 500kcal :-X
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according to mike mentzer he'd train for weeks on end while making constant improvements in the gym i.e. increased training loads while gaining no scale weight and then.... BOOM!!!! He'd add 4 or 5 pounds nearly overnight all the while keeping cals the same
I'm off now to wreak the pecs 😎
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just stepped on the scale at the gymnasium and BW is up 3 pounds.... FUCK YEAH!!! 😝
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just stepped on the scale at the gymnasium and BW is up 3 pounds.... FUCK YEAH!!! 😝
go and have a piss and a shit.....
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go and have a piss and a shit.....
lol
nah, it's quality lean muscle tissue as I can clearly see that I'm thicker and fuller through the pec/delt area
in fact I'm really starting to look like a bodybuilder up there
I could do some damage in light heavies if I could only get that big 😈
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lol
nah, it's quality lean muscle tissue as I can clearly see that I'm thicker and fuller through the pec/delt area
in fact I'm really starting to look like a bodybuilder up there
I could do some damage in light heavies if I could only get that big 😈
update pics?
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update pics?
soon 8)
I'll post some in bout 2-3 weeks
and do you want leg and back shots too or will pecs, delts, and arms shots suffice?😜
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i ran out of desinfective wipes and now the pharmacy is closed
it's time to inject
fucking shit
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i ran out of desinfective wipes and now the pharmacy is closed
it's time to inject
fucking shit
wipes are totally unnecessary.
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wipes are totally unnecessary.
bostin loyd nearly lost his entire arm that way
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soon 8)
I'll post some in bout 2-3 weeks
and do you want leg and back shots too or will pecs, delts, and arms shots suffice?😜
i cant wait so fucking long
post them now mother fucker >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
this time dont make them all shaky and blury GOD FUCKING DAMNIT >:( >:( >:(
NOW >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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bostin loyd nearly lost his entire arm that way
you sure it was down to not using a wipe?
You are aware millions of injections every day are done without wipes.
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you sure it was down to not using a wipe?
You are aware millions of injections every day are done without wipes.
millions of people fuck without condoms everyday
millions of people drive without seat belts everyday
etc
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millions of people fuck without condoms everyday
millions of people drive without seat belts everyday
etc
https://www.inmo.ie/MagazineArticle/PrintArticle/6696
Examining the evidence
Research over the last 30 years has questioned the value of skin preparation prior to injections. A landmark study by Dann was carried out at a university medical centre where more than 5,000 injections were given without skin preparation to patients between four and 66 years of age.2 No cases of infection, either local or systemic, were identified. As a result of this study it was suggested that routine skin preparation was unnecessary and questioned the assumption that infection could be introduced via the needle from unsterilised skin.
A study on 13 people who have diabetes, found that although a five second skin preparation with alcohol swabs prior to injection reduced skin bacterial counts by over 82%, such disinfection is not necessary to prevent infection at the injection site.3
When 1,700 injections were given without an alcohol swab no infection occurred. Other studies concur with these findings and suggest that generally there was insufficient contaminating of skin to cause infection following injection without disinfection and that skin cleansing was an unnecessary procedure.4
Further research has reinforced the importance of ensuring that the skin of the patient is physically clean and that healthcare providers maintain high standards of hand hygiene prior to the procedure.5 Scientific evidence to support the use of soap and water for skin cleansing is limited, however it has been suggested that the physical action of washing has long being accepted for the removal of transient flora which may contaminate the skin.6
Just have a wash.
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i cant wait so fucking long
post them now mother fucker >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
this time dont make them all shaky and blury GOD FUCKING DAMNIT >:( >:( >:(
NOW >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I'll be adding in dbol starting this Friday and according to 15... "legit dbol will add 20 within the first 3-4 weeks, if legit dbol" -gh15
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ok i just lost weight again
time to bump the kcal to 5500 as of today, i refuse to be a small nobody >:(
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Sometimes the body does seem to follow the bodybuilding laws of thermodynamics.
For the last 2 weeks I been trying a ketogenic diet for the first time, eating 20-30g of carbs per day at a 500 calorie deficit. I lost like 3 kg of water weight within the first week.
After two weeks yesterday I decided to go back to dieting on carbs, so I decided to do a "carb up" on the first day like they say to do on the internets.
The internets said that I would literally gain back 3 kg of water overnight like this. I ate over 400g of carbs with low fat.
I wake up today and weigh myself and only gained 0.1 kg, no water weight gain. WTF is this shit.
Internet bodybuilder scientists lied to me. Where's my 3 kg of water and glycogen shuttled into the muscles giving a full and round appearance?
And I get the same effect of anabolichalo, when I've been on steroids I need to eat shit loads of food just to gain a little weight, it's like my metabolism increases by 1000 calories a day and all the food that goes into my mouth gets burnt up for energy or the body just doesn't absorb it.
Up your sodium on the carb load. Put sodium/electrolyte tabs in the water you drink. Creatine loading at the same time doesn't hurt either. Same thing happens to competitors who load for a show while restricting sodium - scale keeps dropping even if water isn't cut.
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https://www.inmo.ie/MagazineArticle/PrintArticle/6696
Just have a wash.
Yup, have posted the same research before. On american forums I see guys first swabbing with alcohol, then iodine. Still sometimes get infections and abscesses. ???
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just stepped on the scale at the gymnasium and BW is up 3 pounds.... FUCK YEAH!!! 😝
Yippikayee, guy. In reality it means 1.5 litre of water as sweat in your clothes, weight of your clothes or load of shit in your rectum ;D
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Yippikayee, guy. In reality it means 1.5 litre of water as sweat in your clothes, weight of your clothes or load of shit in your rectum ;D
my update pics might tell a different story brosef ;)
and we will see if god is right bout dbol, and btw wtf happened to god? he seems to have disappeared :'(
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Swabbing with alcohol is part of the ritual of illegal steroid abuse. So is flicking the needle to get that air bubble to the top to push out, even though a tiny air bubble won't cause any harm when injected.
If this is not done there will be less gains due to anxiety raising cortisol.
FUCKING LOL'ED
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i ran out of desinfective wipes and now the pharmacy is closed
it's time to inject
fucking shit
Rubbing alcohol
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my update pics might tell a different story brosef ;)
and we will see if god is right bout dbol, and btw wtf happened to god? he seems to have disappeared :'(
Please don't tell me you refer to another man as 'God?'....... ???
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Sometimes the body does seem to follow the bodybuilding laws of thermodynamics.
For the last 2 weeks I been trying a ketogenic diet for the first time, eating 20-30g of carbs per day at a 500 calorie deficit. I lost like 3 kg of water weight within the first week.
After two weeks yesterday I decided to go back to dieting on carbs, so I decided to do a "carb up" on the first day like they say to do on the internets.
The internets said that I would literally gain back 3 kg of water overnight like this. I ate over 400g of carbs with low fat.
I wake up today and weigh myself and only gained 0.1 kg, no water weight gain. WTF is this shit.
Internet bodybuilder scientists lied to me. Where's my 3 kg of water and glycogen shuttled into the muscles giving a full and round appearance?
And I get the same effect of anabolichalo, when I've been on steroids I need to eat shit loads of food just to gain a little weight, it's like my metabolism increases by 1000 calories a day and all the food that goes into my mouth gets burnt up for energy or the body just doesn't absorb it.
surprise surprise, it's all a bunch of bullshit and no one knows what they're talking about