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Title: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on June 04, 2019, 09:30:14 PM
Anyone have any knowledge of when he will be rejoining getbig/society?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Darren Avey on June 05, 2019, 02:45:55 PM
As soon as he's shown appropriate respect
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on June 05, 2019, 02:47:16 PM
As soon as he's shown appropriate respect

Good answer.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on June 05, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
Needs to garner a few more stories before making an epic comeback.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 05, 2019, 07:15:14 PM
Needs to garner a few more stories before making an epic comeback.

Looking forward to his triumphant return almost as much as the 3rd season of Ozark.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 05, 2019, 07:16:45 PM
Looking forward to his triumphant return almost as much as the 3rd season of Ozark.

Is he the guy who recorded a video on a Hospital for Shizzo?

:)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 05, 2019, 07:17:50 PM
Is he the guy who recorded a video on a Hospital for Shizzo?

:)

He did post a video from his hospital bed.  Only thing to be concerned with is that he doesn't tolerate disrespect.  Anywhere. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 05, 2019, 07:19:18 PM
He did post a video from his hospital bed.  Only thing to be concerned with is that he doesn't tolerate disrespect.  Anywhere. 

I remember that Guy. He did time, right? He said something about having a Heroin addiction or something. Seems a cool guy
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on August 05, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
The "I dont take kindly to disrespect" post is absolutely legendary. Maybe one of the greatest posts In GB history.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 05, 2019, 07:22:36 PM
The "I dont take kindly to disrespect" post is absolutely legendary. Maybe one of the greatest posts In GB history.

Whether you like him or not (count me as pro ESF) this place is better with him.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on August 05, 2019, 07:24:08 PM
Whether you like him or not (count me as pro ESF) this place is better with him.

Agreed.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 05, 2019, 07:27:28 PM
Whether you like him or not (count me as pro ESF) this place is better with him.

What happened to Shizzo? The Real one. Im not him, it dosent matter what anyone says, Im not Shizzo.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 05, 2019, 07:29:03 PM
What happened to Shizzo? The Real one. Im not him, it dosent matter what anyone says, Im not Shizzo.

He pops in here every now and then.  He's somewhat of a regular over at MD.  His claim to fame is boasting on getbig about how drunk he got and wound up sucking some guys cock. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 05, 2019, 07:34:23 PM
He pops in here every now and then.  He's somewhat of a regular over at MD.  His claim to fame is boasting on getbig about how drunk he got and wound up sucking some guys cock. 

Somebody told he lives somewhere in Florida. Seems a decent poster
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 05, 2019, 08:08:45 PM
What was the name of the dickfart who came up with the “Girls and Sons” post?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 05, 2019, 09:29:32 PM
Didn't someone run him off?  Exposed him (or reported him) as a registered sex offender?  (or was that another person).

Seemed dumb as dirt for trying to openly sell roids on IG with his face in the pictures.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Earl1972 on August 05, 2019, 09:30:07 PM
What was the name of the dickfart who came up with the “Girls and Sons” post?

uberman

i think he either killed himself or is in jail for killing his wife

E
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Tennisballz on August 06, 2019, 10:12:07 AM
Anyone have a link to the thread with the original “I don’t take kindly to disrespect” post?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Hulkotron on August 06, 2019, 10:12:54 AM
Will be back shortly hopefully.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: BB on August 06, 2019, 10:43:44 AM
Didn't someone run him off?  Exposed him (or reported him) as a registered sex offender?  (or was that another person).

Seemed dumb as dirt for trying to openly sell roids on IG with his face in the pictures.

The sex offender prank thing did happen. I forget how it all went down, but he survived it. The two big things that happened right before he left were 1) his dad was exposed as proud, out gay man with a husband and the whole thing. 2) He really ramped up trying to sell his steroid products on instagram. It went from slang and vagaries, to pictures of vials and prices.

Soon after that he was gone.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on August 06, 2019, 11:13:58 AM
Needs to garner a few more stories before making an epic comeback.

SF - are you kidding me?  Check his Instagram where he pulled the dying guy from the car wreck, administered CPR and watched the guy fade before EMS could attend.  All a matter of public document BTW...



The "I dont take kindly to disrespect" post is absolutely legendary. Maybe one of the greatest posts In GB history.

This  8)



Whether you like him or not (count me as pro ESF) this place is better with him.

Super agree!  This place was BUILT for that short of sh1t-talk - like we do (did) in the gym - although I got on well with Jeff, I never really understood why he cared so much...  :-[
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 06, 2019, 11:16:23 AM
Anyone have a link to the thread with the original “I don’t take kindly to disrespect” post?

T'was Scorp1o who coined it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 06, 2019, 02:34:01 PM
Didn't someone run him off?  Exposed him (or reported him) as a registered sex offender?  (or was that another person).

Seemed dumb as dirt for trying to openly sell roids on IG with his face in the pictures.

UK Jeff / Be There
Exposed Him & Ran Him Off Here

Good Riddance- A Useless Idiotic Trash Talking Twat.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on August 06, 2019, 04:05:37 PM
SF - are you kidding me?  Check his Instagram where he pulled the dying guy from the car wreck, administered CPR and watched the guy fade before EMS could attend.  All a matter of public document BTW...



This  8)



Super agree!  This place was BUILT for that short of sh1t-talk - like we do (did) in the gym - although I got on well with Jeff, I never really understood why he cared so much...  :-[

He also put out a burning fire and saved a cat from a tree.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on August 06, 2019, 04:11:10 PM
Looking forward to his triumphant return almost as much as the 3rd season of Ozark.

Same here. It will be epic.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 06, 2019, 04:47:04 PM
UK Jeff / Be There
Exposed Him & Ran Him Off Here

Good Riddance- A Useless Idiotic Trash Talking Twat.

Best one was when Pillowtalk was exposed as a pedo.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 06, 2019, 04:49:51 PM
Link to ESF dad being outhomo'd?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: BB on August 06, 2019, 05:20:10 PM
Link to ESF dad being outhomo'd?

It got deleted. ESF took it decently after a while. His dad is a bear type so it was like a bunch of outdoorsy pics of him and his buddy (husband) hanging out, then a few of them deep kissing and feeling each other up.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on August 06, 2019, 06:39:35 PM
uberman

i think he either killed himself or is in jail for killing his wife

E

At the time he went missing it was said that he committed suicide. Never heard about his wife.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Earl1972 on August 06, 2019, 07:10:05 PM
At the time he went missing it was said that he committed suicide. Never heard about his wife.

people thought he killed himself or they had evidence that he did?

i mentioned his wife because he was open about being very controlling and abusive with her

E
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on August 06, 2019, 08:04:42 PM
people thought he killed himself or they had evidence that he did?

i mentioned his wife because he was open about being very controlling and abusive with her

E

I dont know about evidence but that was the prevailing rumor
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: WalterWhite on August 06, 2019, 08:51:20 PM
He'll be back!  :D

Soon..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 07, 2019, 09:39:39 AM
He'll be back!  :D

Soon..

Good!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 07, 2019, 12:29:38 PM
Best one was when Pillowtalk was exposed as a pedo.

And then the Mods went through and deleted every good post in that thread.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 07, 2019, 02:00:01 PM
He'll be back!  :D

Soon..

Good!


Damn I hope not.
Sorry guys I can’t agree with you on this one.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: falco on August 07, 2019, 02:22:53 PM
Is he out already?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 07, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Didn't someone run him off?  Exposed him (or reported him) as a registered sex offender?  (or was that another person).

Seemed dumb as dirt for trying to openly sell roids on IG with his face in the pictures.

Everything few months I'll check in here. This time was to see any updates on the rhoden thing... Then well shit, there's a post about me. So I figured I'd contact someone and have my account unfrozen.

Run me off? Haha nah. I was in a situation where an ex reconnected with me (probably the prettiest ex I've had, asside from my first baby momma. Except this ex (Viet) had a better job (clinical research laboratory scientist), except she was Catholic 👎. I prefer Buddhist), and the baby momma (Lao) was just an import model and worked in retail :/... Anyways. This ex had a baby with a guy who she seriously believed would one day kill her. He was a "sorta" actor and trained in some Hawaiian martial art (I contacted Steve Arce to see if he knew him and to see about getting him blackballed from LA dojos since women-beaters are kinda frowned upon). In the event he actually did kill her, she wanted me to adopt her baby boy, which I would. He caught wind of and her and had a private investigator tailing me daily. So I requested to have my account "erased/banned". Long story short, that's no longer an issue.

And sex offender? Hahaha that was Josh who made some pathetic attempt at taking a pic from my IG and making some fake mugshot and booking info. LOL pathetic.

And my dad not being straight? It's 2019..big fucken deal. Béen with the same dude for 27yrs. The dude who "outed" him hasn't had a relationship last 27days. The dude who outted him also called his partners workplace and filed dozens of fake complaints. You can guess who that pathetic incel was.

And the car accident?
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Aryan brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: che on August 07, 2019, 03:42:01 PM
Everything few months I'll check in here. This time was to see any updates on the rhoden thing... Then well shit, there's a post about me. So I figured I'd contact someone and have my account unfrozen.

Run me off? Haha nah. I was in a situation where an ex reconnected with me (probably the prettiest ex I've had, asside from my first baby momma. Except this ex (Viet) had a better job (clinical research laboratory scientist), except she was Catholic 👎. I prefer Buddhist), and the baby momma (Lao) was just an import model and worked in retail :/... Anyways. This ex had a baby with a guy who she seriously believed would one day kill her. He was a "sorta" actor and trained in some Hawaiian martial art (I contacted Steve Arce to see if he knew him and to see about getting him blackballed from LA dojos since women-beaters are kinda frowned upon). In the event he actually did kill her, she wanted me to adopt her baby boy, which I would. He caught wind of and her and had a private investigator tailing me daily. So I requested to have my account "erased/banned". Long story short, that's no longer an issue.

And sex offender? Hahaha that was Josh who made some pathetic attempt at taking a pic from my IG and making some fake mugshot and booking info. LOL pathetic.

And my dad not being straight? It's 2019..big fucken deal. Béen with the same dude for 27yrs. The dude who "outed" him hasn't had a relationship last 27days. The dude who outted him also called his partners workplace and filed dozens of fake complaints. You can guess who that pathetic incel was.

And the car accident?
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.

Welcome back ,stud .
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 07, 2019, 04:13:11 PM
Everything few months I'll check in here. This time was to see any updates on the rhoden thing... Then well shit, there's a post about me. So I figured I'd contact someone and have my account unfrozen.

Run me off? Haha nah. I was in a situation where an ex reconnected with me (probably the prettiest ex I've had, asside from my first baby momma. Except this ex (Viet) had a better job (clinical research laboratory scientist), except she was Catholic 👎. I prefer Buddhist), and the baby momma (Lao) was just an import model and worked in retail :/... Anyways. This ex had a baby with a guy who she seriously believed would one day kill her. He was a "sorta" actor and trained in some Hawaiian martial art (I contacted Steve Arce to see if he knew him and to see about getting him blackballed from LA dojos since women-beaters are kinda frowned upon). In the event he actually did kill her, she wanted me to adopt her baby boy, which I would. He caught wind of and her and had a private investigator tailing me daily. So I requested to have my account "erased/banned". Long story short, that's no longer an issue.

And sex offender? Hahaha that was Josh who made some pathetic attempt at taking a pic from my IG and making some fake mugshot and booking info. LOL pathetic.

And my dad not being straight? It's 2019..big fucken deal. Béen with the same dude for 27yrs. The dude who "outed" him hasn't had a relationship last 27days. The dude who outted him also called his partners workplace and filed dozens of fake complaints. You can guess who that pathetic incel was.

And the car accident?
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.


Now this is how you make a return.  Welcome back ESF.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 07, 2019, 04:34:04 PM
Good lord, I hope Ron doesn’t pay you by the word !!!!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Twaddle on August 07, 2019, 04:47:37 PM
Good lord, I hope Ron doesn’t pay you by the word !!!!

Legit LOL.   ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 07, 2019, 04:49:05 PM
This is a great day.  ESF returns and Ironmeister has produced some instant classics as well.  Getbig is alive and well.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on August 07, 2019, 06:13:46 PM
 8)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Hulkotron on August 07, 2019, 06:45:13 PM
This is great news
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Bevo on August 07, 2019, 09:07:24 PM
Same here. It will be epic.

 :D

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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 07, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
:D

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Good thing Vince is homosexual.  There might be a pussy shortage for the rest of us if he were heterosexual.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 08, 2019, 01:09:34 AM
may as well give an update.

i did my first 500mg shot of test cyp yesterday for the first time in months, and it was months and months before that I'd done a shot.

going from 3000-7000mg/wk to *nothing* really, really sucks.

i think everybody is familar with my 2 hip surgeries and nearly dying (seriously), being told by 3 different doctors that i should have been dead that day, and surely id be dead by the next day as most would already dead the day i called 911. haha  i still remember the EMT saying
"this is fentnyl" and putting 2 swab things in my nose. i thought "great, they're gonna give me some fentany. then i realize the things in my nose were Narcan and they thought i'd OD'd on Fentayl. Idiots.


also broke my right leg (tibia... the big bone) tripping over my cat. walked around on a broken fort for 2wks before going to the ER. Turns out i also partally tore my ACL .... which isn't as bad as ppl think it is. your knee will buckle n stuff when you're at the grocery store & you reach for it and your knee gives out lol.  :-\ so, been out of the gym for quite a while with injury after injury. it's ok though, ive got an investor or 2 to reupl so, within a couple months i should be back up 60lbs.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on August 08, 2019, 01:28:59 AM
may as well give an update.

i did my first 500mg shot of test cyp yesterday for the first time in months, and it was months and months before that I'd done a shot.

going from 3000-7000mg/wk to *nothing* really, really sucks.

i think everybody is familar with my 2 hip surgeries and nearly dying (seriously), being told by 3 different doctors that i should have been dead that day, and surely id be dead by the next day as most would already dead the day i called 911. haha  i still remember the EMT saying
"this is fentnyl" and putting 2 swab things in my nose. i thought "great, they're gonna give me some fentany. then i realize the things in my nose were Narcan and they thought i'd OD'd on Fentayl. Idiots.


also broke my right leg (tibia... the big bone) tripping over my cat. walked around on a broken fort for 2wks before going to the ER. Turns out i also partally tore my ACL .... which isn't as bad as ppl think it is. your knee will buckle n stuff when you're at the grocery store & you reach for it and your knee gives out lol.  :-\ so, been out of the gym for quite a while with injury after injury. it's ok though, ive got an investor or 2 to reupl so, within a couple months i should be back up 60lbs.



Hi man, good to have you back. When you inject watch out for that spider that climbs out and bites you on the exact place that you just injected your gear. I think that spider is sick of having stick thin arms and he wants some of your steroids to put on some quality tissue. Only thing that makes sense?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 08, 2019, 03:16:50 AM

Damn I hope not.
Sorry guys I can’t agree with you on this one.

I have been having Trazodone withdrawal since he left, so i am hoping he will return so i can get my things in order.

Hoping very much Eric returns shortly, because we are barely holding on.
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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 08, 2019, 03:37:06 AM
Good thing Vince is homosexual.  There might be a pussy shortage for the rest of us if he were heterosexual.

Haha yes, with all those diplomas we would not stand a chance
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 08, 2019, 03:41:11 AM
Everything few months I'll check in here. This time was to see any updates on the rhoden thing... Then well shit, there's a post about me. So I figured I'd contact someone and have my account unfrozen.

Run me off? Haha nah. I was in a situation where an ex reconnected with me (probably the prettiest ex I've had, asside from my first baby momma. Except this ex (Viet) had a better job (clinical research laboratory scientist), except she was Catholic 👎. I prefer Buddhist), and the baby momma (Lao) was just an import model and worked in retail :/... Anyways. This ex had a baby with a guy who she seriously believed would one day kill her. He was a "sorta" actor and trained in some Hawaiian martial art (I contacted Steve Arce to see if he knew him and to see about getting him blackballed from LA dojos since women-beaters are kinda frowned upon). In the event he actually did kill her, she wanted me to adopt her baby boy, which I would. He caught wind of and her and had a private investigator tailing me daily. So I requested to have my account "erased/banned". Long story short, that's no longer an issue.

And sex offender? Hahaha that was Josh who made some pathetic attempt at taking a pic from my IG and making some fake mugshot and booking info. LOL pathetic.

And my dad not being straight? It's 2019..big fucken deal. Béen with the same dude for 27yrs. The dude who "outed" him hasn't had a relationship last 27days. The dude who outted him also called his partners workplace and filed dozens of fake complaints. You can guess who that pathetic incel was.

And the car accident?
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.


Welcome back Eric!

You've been through a lot the past year!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Twaddle on August 08, 2019, 06:05:48 AM
may as well give an update.

i did my first 500mg shot of test cyp yesterday for the first time in months, and it was months and months before that I'd done a shot.

going from 3000-7000mg/wk to *nothing* really, really sucks.

i think everybody is familar with my 2 hip surgeries and nearly dying (seriously), being told by 3 different doctors that i should have been dead that day, and surely id be dead by the next day as most would already dead the day i called 911. haha  i still remember the EMT saying
"this is fentnyl" and putting 2 swab things in my nose. i thought "great, they're gonna give me some fentany. then i realize the things in my nose were Narcan and they thought i'd OD'd on Fentayl. Idiots.


also broke my right leg (tibia... the big bone) tripping over my cat. walked around on a broken fort for 2wks before going to the ER. Turns out i also partally tore my ACL .... which isn't as bad as ppl think it is. your knee will buckle n stuff when you're at the grocery store & you reach for it and your knee gives out lol.  :-\ so, been out of the gym for quite a while with injury after injury. it's ok though, ive got an investor or 2 to reupl so, within a couple months i should be back up 60lbs.



I am not familiar, can you please elaborate?   ???
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on August 08, 2019, 06:19:06 PM
I am not familiar, can you please elaborate?   ???

Our man BB is sh1t-hot at finding old threads - it's a skill I've never successfully aquired - so if he notices your post he might take mercy and drop a couple links for you... but beware, they are usually War and Peace style epics so allow yourself some reading time!   ;D

But I can recall the last hip problem ES had - along with the documented recovery - was very interesting (speaking for myself, of course)

He posted regular YouTube updates in full Sam Elliott mode, reviewing hospital food, detailing shenanigans with the nursing staff, his mobility scooter, etc.  If I recall correctly it was caused by someone passing him some bad gear of some sort (Sciroxx?) which caused a wicked abcess - I could be wrong about the cause, but not the size of the abcess!   :-X



ES - are you still sporting the full lumberjack beard..?  
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 09, 2019, 01:24:01 PM
Our man BB is sh1t-hot at finding old threads - it's a skill I've never successfully aquired - so if he notices your post he might take mercy and drop a couple links for you... but beware, they are usually War and Peace style epics so allow yourself some reading time!   ;D

But I can recall the last hip problem ES had - along with the documented recovery - was very interesting (speaking for myself, of course)

He posted regular YouTube updates in full Sam Elliott mode, reviewing hospital food, detailing shenanigans with the nursing staff, his mobility scooter, etc.  If I recall correctly it was caused by someone passing him some bad gear of some sort (Sciroxx?) which caused a wicked abcess - I could be wrong about the cause, but not the size of the abcess!   :-X



ES - are you still sporting the full lumberjack beard..?  

(By the way, I had to step outside and use voice text to reply to this because when I kept trying to type out a reply I kept dozing off because I just taking my blood pressure medication clonidine and taking three along with oh I believe what was it 2400 mg of gabapentin 300 mg tablets so if there's any typos here that doesn't make sense it's because I'm using voice text)

Yeah that's pretty accurate. it had been probably seven or eight years since I had injected anybody else's product other than mine. I had a friend who had purchased I think it was fired bottles or four bottles of siroxx 0 deca and you hadn't been noticing any results from them so he gave me a bottle that had been maybe 3/4 used or so or half maybe I forget now so I ended up shooting probably 5 cc's of it and my lash glue or over the course of a couple shots and I believe and maybe 5 or 6 weeks later kind of feeling ill and something wasn't right. Was in the hospital maybe three days in a row with chest pain and what not but they couldn't find find anything like 0 no evidence of a heart attack. So I believe all it was the third day I woke up at about 9:30 in the morning passed out on my floor in a strange place like was my lights on and everything and I knew something was wrong with my leg cuz I knew something was bad bad. So I ain't to the hospital they don't even really look at my hip until I get my dude look at my hip can I have it looked at my ass and Kim Kardashian ass cheek and my right was just a regular you know bodybuilder ass cheek LOL. So it did a cat-scan or a MRI or whatever it was on my left glue and came in and said we have to do surgery immediately fasciitis it had spread to my my bloodstream so I had sepsis which was spreading to my heart ( endocarditis).

All the videos on my YouTube channel still "ESFitnessSavage".

And yes, still have a bit of a viking beard. However it's trimmed down of it right now because I'll be needing to apply 2 gym within the next week or so to get a legit paycheck. So at least I know I'm actually in the gym have a reason to be in the gym or else I just don't feel like training anymore probably has something to do a lot with no jumping off of 7 grams of a week to zero and my testosterone crashing my estrogen going sky-high probably but anyways so yeah still got the beard, but it's probably going to have to go for a interview at least and then it'll come back once I start or working there LOL.. when I first grew and out at grew like within like 2 weeks I had a full beard so I'm not too worried about it
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 09, 2019, 01:39:46 PM
Everything few months I'll check in here. This time was to see any updates on the rhoden thing... Then well shit, there's a post about me. So I figured I'd contact someone and have my account unfrozen.

Run me off? Haha nah. I was in a situation where an ex reconnected with me (probably the prettiest ex I've had, asside from my first baby momma. Except this ex (Viet) had a better job (clinical research laboratory scientist), except she was Catholic 👎. I prefer Buddhist), and the baby momma (Lao) was just an import model and worked in retail :/... Anyways. This ex had a baby with a guy who she seriously believed would one day kill her. He was a "sorta" actor and trained in some Hawaiian martial art (I contacted Steve Arce to see if he knew him and to see about getting him blackballed from LA dojos since women-beaters are kinda frowned upon). In the event he actually did kill her, she wanted me to adopt her baby boy, which I would. He caught wind of and her and had a private investigator tailing me daily. So I requested to have my account "erased/banned". Long story short, that's no longer an issue.

And sex offender? Hahaha that was Josh who made some pathetic attempt at taking a pic from my IG and making some fake mugshot and booking info. LOL pathetic.

And my dad not being straight? It's 2019..big fucken deal. Béen with the same dude for 27yrs. The dude who "outed" him hasn't had a relationship last 27days. The dude who outted him also called his partners workplace and filed dozens of fake complaints. You can guess who that pathetic incel was.

And the car accident?
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.


So glad yer back Eric!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 09, 2019, 05:44:41 PM
So glad yer back Eric!


Appreciate brother ;)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: BB on August 09, 2019, 07:01:05 PM
Here's ESF's youtube channel -

videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0 .

-------------------------

ESF's medical problems start, see post #128 for the start of the "hip saga" -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=634922.125 .

---------------------------

Start at #65 for a thankfully short version of the hip / infection problems -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=645111.msg9034775#msg9034775 .

That's a fun thread overall.

----------------------------

Here's another good one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643975.msg9012135#msg9012135 .

--------------------------------

This turns into a fun one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643171.0 .

-------------------------------------

Pics of the hip -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZngCcenlrV/ .

Some of the old instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ericscott.cpt/ .

Scroll around a little (go to August 2017, and you can see the "hip saga" in sequence).
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on August 09, 2019, 08:19:46 PM
BB

A big thank you Brother - I just knew you'd be able to assemble this sort of primer package (and that you wouldn't mind doing it  :)).  I've lost count of how many times I've seen you do this for people - sincere appreciation for that  8)

Taf



Here's ESF's youtube channel -

videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0 .

-------------------------

ESF's medical problems start, see post #128 for the start of the "hip saga" -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=634922.125 .

---------------------------

Start at #65 for a thankfully short version of the hip / infection problems -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=645111.msg9034775#msg9034775 .

That's a fun thread overall.

----------------------------

Here's another good one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643975.msg9012135#msg9012135 .

--------------------------------

This turns into a fun one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643171.0 .

-------------------------------------

Pics of the hip -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZngCcenlrV/ .

Some of the old instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ericscott.cpt/ .

Scroll around a little (go to August 2017, and you can see the "hip saga" in sequence).
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 10, 2019, 05:43:02 AM
Eric can you make new updates on your instagram or youtubechannel?


Do you feel well nowadays?

Is the comeback going ok?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Powerlift66 on August 10, 2019, 06:19:28 AM
ESF is back.. Epic.. Welcome.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 10, 2019, 09:34:54 AM
Welcome back ESF
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: falco on August 10, 2019, 02:39:02 PM
Everything few months I'll check in here. This time was to see any updates on the rhoden thing... Then well shit, there's a post about me. So I figured I'd contact someone and have my account unfrozen.

Run me off? Haha nah. I was in a situation where an ex reconnected with me (probably the prettiest ex I've had, asside from my first baby momma. Except this ex (Viet) had a better job (clinical research laboratory scientist), except she was Catholic 👎. I prefer Buddhist), and the baby momma (Lao) was just an import model and worked in retail :/... Anyways. This ex had a baby with a guy who she seriously believed would one day kill her. He was a "sorta" actor and trained in some Hawaiian martial art (I contacted Steve Arce to see if he knew him and to see about getting him blackballed from LA dojos since women-beaters are kinda frowned upon). In the event he actually did kill her, she wanted me to adopt her baby boy, which I would. He caught wind of and her and had a private investigator tailing me daily. So I requested to have my account "erased/banned". Long story short, that's no longer an issue.

And sex offender? Hahaha that was Josh who made some pathetic attempt at taking a pic from my IG and making some fake mugshot and booking info. LOL pathetic.

And my dad not being straight? It's 2019..big fucken deal. Béen with the same dude for 27yrs. The dude who "outed" him hasn't had a relationship last 27days. The dude who outted him also called his partners workplace and filed dozens of fake complaints. You can guess who that pathetic incel was.

And the car accident?
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.


Welcome back!
Love your adventurous life. You should wright a book. You can be the next E. Scott Fitgerald  :D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 10, 2019, 04:18:29 PM
Eric can you make new updates on your instagram or youtubechannel?


Do you feel well nowadays?

Is the comeback going ok?

Comeback has sucked lately.  I seriously haven't been training since before Aug 2017.

Got out of rehab may 2016 and within a couple weeks I had completely dislocated my right ankle, completely ruptured all 3 ligaments holding it in place, however I had biz to take care of and deliveries in L.A. to make (biz after rehab skyrocketed) and I didn't rejoin a gym for months and trained a little for a while. Then came the hip thing Aug 2017..oh, and went BACK to rehab Nov 1st 2016 (for alcohol only that time). By that time I'd been off all anabolics except a few testosterone shots here n there. Then I broke my leg and tore my acl Aug 2018 and was in a full leg imobolizer for months.

Going off all anabolics "cold turkey" will kill your drive and motivation to train, not to mention I guess what they'd call "clinical depression", which kills your appetite/drive to eat.
 My biggest mistake was not even staying on even minimum testosterone doses. I finally did a 500mg shot a few days ago and am feeling a bit more motivated to get back in the gym. Once I'm actually in the gym with consistent test doses (even just 200/wk), I can jump 30lbs in a month. I got recertified in December so getting hired as a trainer is damn near a sure thing, esp with 19+yrs experience. It's just a little easier when you actually look like a bodybuilder lol.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2019, 05:04:17 PM
Just read your initial August 7 post, ESFitness. You certainly have a way with words and thank goodness your story telling abilities haven't diminished during your absence here. You are a colorful fellow who has led and continues to lead a very interesting and exciting life. I wish you success in your return to the gym and hope you achieve what you desire with regards to getting back in shape.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 10, 2019, 06:55:19 PM
Just read your initial August 7 post, ESFitness. You certainly have a way with words and thank goodness your story telling abilities haven't diminished during your absence here. You are a colorful fellow who has led and continues to lead a very interesting and exciting life. I wish you success in your return to the gym and hope you achieve what you desire with regards to getting back in shape.


Thanks brother.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 10, 2019, 07:21:31 PM
As far as advertising on IG.

So what? There's always a thing called "plausible deniability". Can't prove who's operating the page or who's using the phone.

It did however lead to my account being "shadow banned" so my ads for sales (which were only up for a day or s few hours). Using hashtags like "steroids, anabolics, testosterone, dbol, etc..." Eventually they caught on and if you used those, your account would end up shadowbanned.

The only thing I'd do now would be to advertise for "investors" for a re-up, like I'm doing now. So they put in a hundred, and get whatever products they wanted at like 1/4 or 1/8 the retail price. Like a hundred would usually get you 2 bottles of test, however if they "invest", they get 5 or 6 or 7 bottles, for example. The only downside is there's a longer wait. So instead of sending funds on Saturday, usually they'd have the products within 3days. Investing in re-up, it will take 14-17days to get their stuff. Since it takes 10-14days to get the product from overseas and hopefully the equipment (filters, bottles,/vials/etc..) arrives within those 10-14days. Hopefully all the equipment would arrive before the products arrive from overseas. A few re-ups ago I had to wait and wait for a sterile bottletop vacuum filter for 20days as well as a gallon of peg300 [for liquid orals. ¡ don't use alcohol] didn't even come and had to cancel and order from another company which arrived in 3 days... Luckily at that time I still had enough equipment to produce the majority of the products ;)  ).

.. so, I don't really advertise products on IG anymore. Hell, I even got a warning on FB for posting a vague post stating I had 1 (or2?) Bottles of Cialis left. And posted a "forty dollar first come first serve" or something similar. The first time I tried posting it, FB automatically made it into a "sale post" , so i had to reword it, and still got a warning.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 11, 2019, 04:05:10 AM
Why are you so injury prone?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 11, 2019, 04:06:12 AM
Why are you so injury prone?

I think Eric lives (and enjoys) life like Column Von Mogul, lives life to the fullest (no barriers), thus all the injuries.

Taking too many risks.

Very similar behavior to Calender Van Minas Morgul.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Griffith on August 11, 2019, 04:10:35 AM
As far as advertising on IG.

So what? There's always a thing called "plausible deniability". Can't prove who's operating the page or who's using the phone.

It did however lead to my account being "shadow banned" so my ads for sales (which were only up for a day or s few hours). Using hashtags like "steroids, anabolics, testosterone, dbol, etc..." Eventually they caught on and if you used those, your account would end up shadowbanned.

The only thing I'd do now would be to advertise for "investors" for a re-up, like I'm doing now. So they put in a hundred, and get whatever products they wanted at like 1/4 or 1/8 the retail price. Like a hundred would usually get you 2 bottles of test, however if they "invest", they get 5 or 6 or 7 bottles, for example. The only downside is there's a longer wait. So instead of sending funds on Saturday, usually they'd have the products within 3days. Investing in re-up, it will take 14-17days to get their stuff. Since it takes 10-14days to get the product from overseas and hopefully the equipment (filters, bottles,/vials/etc..) arrives within those 10-14days. Hopefully all the equipment would arrive before the products arrive from overseas. A few re-ups ago I had to wait and wait for a sterile bottletop vacuum filter for 20days as well as a gallon of peg300 [for liquid orals. ¡ don't use alcohol] didn't even come and had to cancel and order from another company which arrived in 3 days... Luckily at that time I still had enough equipment to produce the majority of the products ;)  ).

.. so, I don't really advertise products on IG anymore. Hell, I even got a warning on FB for posting a vague post stating I had 1 (or2?) Bottles of Cialis left. And posted a "forty dollar first come first serve" or something similar. The first time I tried posting it, FB automatically made it into a "sale post" , so i had to reword it, and still got a warning.

I've heard that Instagram changed their algorithm and now only show posts to a small percentage of followers.
 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 11, 2019, 09:35:06 AM
Why are you so injury prone?

Drunk / High / Clumsy / Partially Sighted / Dyspraxia / Made up Stories,
Take your Pick or it’s All off Them.

 ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 11, 2019, 09:51:11 AM
Here's ESF's youtube channel -

videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0 .

-------------------------

ESF's medical problems start, see post #128 for the start of the "hip saga" -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=634922.125 .

---------------------------

Start at #65 for a thankfully short version of the hip / infection problems -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=645111.msg9034775#msg9034775 .

That's a fun thread overall.

----------------------------

Here's another good one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643975.msg9012135#msg9012135 .

--------------------------------

This turns into a fun one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643171.0 .

-------------------------------------

Pics of the hip -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZngCcenlrV/ .

Some of the old instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ericscott.cpt/ .

Scroll around a little (go to August 2017, and you can see the "hip saga" in sequence).

That took a lot of work.

Think you could go back and edit his posts into proper sentences and paragraphs?

LOL
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 11, 2019, 11:07:46 AM
Here's ESF's youtube channel -

videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0 .

-------------------------

ESF's medical problems start, see post #128 for the start of the "hip saga" -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=634922.125 .

---------------------------

Start at #65 for a thankfully short version of the hip / infection problems -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=645111.msg9034775#msg9034775 .

That's a fun thread overall.

----------------------------

Here's another good one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643975.msg9012135#msg9012135 .

--------------------------------

This turns into a fun one -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=643171.0 .

-------------------------------------

Pics of the hip -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZngCcenlrV/ .

Some of the old instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ericscott.cpt/ .

Scroll around a little (go to August 2017, and you can see the "hip saga" in sequence).

jesus christ. What was the name of his second grade teacher?
How many times did he jerk off in august 1995?  :D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 11, 2019, 03:01:27 PM
Why are you so injury prone?

Sports since I was a kid. Broke my sternum sparing in I believe middle school. Broke my collarbone in highschool  and.never got it fixed . It's super obvious it was snapped in half and healed like a ^ instead of -. Broke my hand first time in 4th grade (& first time I knocked someone out lol).

Then started training Jan 2nd 1996, that's 23yrs of training, and on anabolics from 99- 05, with heavy doses starting in 02. (Hrt from 05-2011... Got hrt even in prison since I had a script going in). Heavy heavy doses starting again about 2012-2016 non-stop.

The "bad" injuries didn't really start till after I'd kinda quit training and had gone off pretty much all anabolics, test included. Snapped my ankle in May 2016 stepping backwards into a pothole while loading my car with products to deliver to LA at like 430am cuz I wanted to beat traffic. (Neglected to go to the hospital until like 2nights later when a girl I met on Tinder insisted we go. Think that was only my 2nd? Night with her. It might've been the first night, after I'd ready fucked her lol... Smoking hot girl/lady too. Independent contractor aeronautical engineer for Lockheed Martin. Had an Audi S8 and whatever convertible they had, and just bought her daught the same car for h.s. graduation present...dunno why I didn't stick with that one...anyways...). That ankle took like 8 months to heal.

Then the double hip surgery Aug 2017. For whatever reason that one, or by that time my desire to train, likely from plummeted test levels, was kinda gone.

Then broke my leg/tibia up.near my knee and tore my acl in Aug 2018. (& Crashed my car later that same day). I thought I'd just twisted my knee really bad, so I was walking (even ran/jogged on it a.couple times when I was in a hurry & gonna be late for something) for 2 wks before I finally went to the ER cuz it kept buckling. Was supposed to be on crutches for 2 months, but I ended up just walking on it with the imobolizer lol. The break was too high, so they would've had to do a full leg cast if they didn't do the imobolizer.

So it's been like 1 bad break/injury a year for the past 3yrs since I've been out of the gym.

...oh, i forgot the bicep and shoulder surgeries last yr? Yr before? I forget.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on August 12, 2019, 11:35:02 AM
Will we see UKJEFF/Simple Simon back again to resume his feud with ESF?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2019, 12:39:07 PM
Sports since I was a kid. Broke my sternum sparing in I believe middle school. Broke my collarbone in highschool  and.never got it fixed . It's super obvious it was snapped in half and healed like a ^ instead of -. Broke my hand first time in 4th grade (& first time I knocked someone out lol).

Then started training Jan 2nd 1996, that's 23yrs of training, and on anabolics from 99- 05, with heavy doses starting in 02. (Hrt from 05-2011... Got hrt even in prison since I had a script going in). Heavy heavy doses starting again about 2012-2016 non-stop.

The "bad" injuries didn't really start till after I'd kinda quit training and had gone off pretty much all anabolics, test included. Snapped my ankle in May 2016 stepping backwards into a pothole while loading my car with products to deliver to LA at like 430am cuz I wanted to beat traffic. (Neglected to go to the hospital until like 2nights later when a girl I met on Tinder insisted we go. Think that was only my 2nd? Night with her. It might've been the first night, after I'd ready fucked her lol... Smoking hot girl/lady too. Independent contractor aeronautical engineer for Lockheed Martin. Had an Audi S8 and whatever convertible they had, and just bought her daught the same car for h.s. graduation present...dunno why I didn't stick with that one...anyways...). That ankle took like 8 months to heal.

Then the double hip surgery Aug 2017. For whatever reason that one, or by that time my desire to train, likely from plummeted test levels, was kinda gone.

Then broke my leg/tibia up.near my knee and tore my acl in Aug 2018. (& Crashed my car later that same day). I thought I'd just twisted my knee really bad, so I was walking (even ran/jogged on it a.couple times when I was in a hurry & gonna be late for something) for 2 wks before I finally went to the ER cuz it kept buckling. Was supposed to be on crutches for 2 months, but I ended up just walking on it with the imobolizer lol. The break was too high, so they would've had to do a full leg cast if they didn't do the imobolizer.

So it's been like 1 bad break/injury a year for the past 3yrs since I've been out of the gym.

...oh, i forgot the bicep and shoulder surgeries last yr? Yr before? I forget.

Have you given any thought as to how much money you've spent on medical bills over the years?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 02:53:23 AM
Have you given any thought as to how much money you've spent on medical bills over the years?

Not nearly as much as I have on heroin (close to $120k).

Court-related costs due to alcohol have gotta be about $20k as well.

...then calculate in lost-income/"opportunity-cost"(an accounting term) since 2016 have gotta be $200k+ (2015/2016 I was earning roughly $10k/month....not nearly that since then. I made more money while using heroin than i have since. Believe me, the drive to make money when you're physically dependant on opiates is far greater, or it was for me... However, my testosterone levels were far greater in that period as well, as I've been "off" since, so that may have a lot to do with it.)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 15, 2019, 05:12:32 AM
Not nearly as much as I have on heroin (close to $120k).

Court-related costs due to alcohol have gotta be about $20k as well.

...then calculate in lost-income/"opportunity-cost"(an accounting term) since 2016 have gotta be $200k+ (2015/2016 I was earning roughly $10k/month....not nearly that since then. I made more money while using heroin than i have since. Believe me, the drive to make money when you're physically dependant on opiates is far greater, or it was for me... However, my testosterone levels were far greater in that period as well, as I've been "off" since, so that may have a lot to do with it.)

How do you feel today Eric?

Are you injury free now?

Are you feeling the effects of lower test ? Tiredness, depression, no drive like before etc?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 04:53:40 PM
How do you feel today Eric?

Are you injury free now?

Are you feeling the effects of lower test ? Tiredness, depression, no drive like before etc?

Feel "like shit" I guess. Anxiety, unmotivated, unfocused, etc... Mostly from lack of androgens, test, etc... I'd assume. Returning emails, doing some diets and training programs and whatnot.

Not many injuries, Delts are "weaker" from surgeries & my knee isn't 100% stable from torn acl still. Tore it when I broke my leg and insurance won't cover surgery since it isn't s complete tear or some shit.

So yes, no drive despite knowing I NEED to get in the gym and train.. plus it's been 115°+ every day the past couple weeks. Past few days it's been 117-118° and over 100 till midnight. Fucken drains you and I'd assume dehydrates you. Plus sleep sucks. Was up till 5am last night
 Wide awake. Finally up at 8am.

Got decent amt of kcals past CPL days... At least dbl what I've been taking in. Hamburger helper one night, box of sweet n sour chicken the next, last night buttery jack and couple 5cheese cannelloni and pint of Ben n Jerry's, so i should be somewhat carbs up and have glycogen stores should be somewhat full so I should have a bit of a pump if i hit the gym tonight. would be just shit that fills up/inflames areas I want Fuller. Delts, triceps, traps.. tmrw probably upper back and maybe some chest (non pressing since I'll already hit tri's obviously). Should also probably hit a test injection since I'm pretty sure it's been a week since my last 500mg. Will probably hit another 500mg/2cc of my 250mg cyp. got 300mg cup and 350mg sust but that's usually for sales, not personal use.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 05:09:21 PM
ESF is full of shit !!

Anybody that did  $120k worth of heroin would not be posting on getbig.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 06:01:41 PM
ESF is full of shit !!

Anybody that did  $120k worth of heroin would not be posting on getbig.

You don't have a clue what I do.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 06:19:59 PM
You don't have a clue what I do.
Fuck that man,I been around quite a few blocks quite a few times and you`re full of shit with that heroin claim and probably also full of shit with most of your other bullshit stories.

You can lie to the people on here who don`t know any better and have them acting like you`re a badass but to me you ain`t nothing but full of shit.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 06:41:11 PM
ESF is full of shit !!

Anybody that did  $120k worth of heroin would not be posting on getbig.

Ever been addicted/physically dependant on something? You'll hustle and make as much money as you can. I'm a businessman. I've always had multiple streams of income. You're likely just a worker with 1 income stream. Maybe get in shape, somehow make yourself handsome (you may need some plastic surgery. Call it an "investment") and post a profile on POF (you may need someone who can write, and some with a personality & knows how to talk to women to write it for you... I may even do it for you for a small fee. You can write it off as a consulting fee) and get some low self-esteem girl from a neighboring state (since there's possibly always a chance you'll actually eventually meet) to send you money via CashApp (I can set it up for you and take a small %... Maybe 25%, since this is money you'll never be able to get otherwise. consider yourself lucky).

Maybe you should go to prison and read some books. Atlas Shrugged. 48 Laws of Power. Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Art of Seduction. Arnold's book "Total Recall". House of Cards, the one about Bear Stern's, not the other one,.and not about the Netflix series....about Ace Greenberg, JP Morgan, and most importantly, Jimmy Cayne, and him looking for people who were "PSD's"; people who were Poor, Smart, & a Deep Desire to be rich. The Wizard of Lies, about Maddoff. The Smartest Guys in the Room, about Enron. Etc... You may learn something.

Maybe pick up a PT Cert that's nationally recognized. Maybe a sports nutrition Cert as well, of course you'd probably need someone to take these tests for you since it's probably above you're ability to learn proper training and nutrition.

Maybe learn some imjection techniques and learn how to oh, well I guess you might need to learn some basic compounding pharmacology first, and make your own site injection oil, sterile of course, and news that seem plenty of fish account to advertise ass injections two women. It's a big market there buddy. You could charge $3-5k for 3wks of treatment per woman... Or tranny.

Or you could also lean some advanced pharmacology and pharmaceutical science as well as some compounding pharmacology and start your own UGL with the money you've saved from the stuff above, or get some investors from the knowledge you gained from reading some of the books I recommended above as well and pay no money out of pocket for the initial start up cost on the UGL. Of course it'd help if you looked like the products worked initially, or if it sounded like you knew what you were talking about when talking to potential customers. That's an easy $5-10k/m right there... Maybe $3k if you just wholesale or do a consignment deal to someone who looks like they have a gym membership. We'll call that "passive income", since you're not doing much of the work.

Or you could learn about drop-shipping and sell $2 watches and sunglasses you get off Ali-Express, and sell on eBay for $6.

I could teach you all of this for a small fee, of course. Then maybe you could turn your $600/month on sushi (like I used to spend) into $8,400/month on a few mortgages instead of spending it on heroin like I did.

... Then you can decide if you'd still check into getbig here & there after.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 15, 2019, 06:44:26 PM
Fuck that man,I been around quite a few blocks quite a few times and you`re full of shit with that heroin claim and probably also full of shit with most of your other bullshit stories.

You can lie to the people on here who don`t know any better and have them acting like you`re a badass but to me you ain`t nothing but full of shit.

Welcome to the party.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on August 15, 2019, 07:00:07 PM
Ever been addicted/physically dependant on something? You'll hustle and make as much money as you can. I'm a businessman. I've always had multiple streams of income. You're likely just a worker with 1 income stream. Maybe get in shape, somehow make yourself handsome (you may need some plastic surgery. Call it an "investment") and post a profile on POF (you may need someone who can write, and some with a personality & knows how to talk to women to write it for you... I may even do it for you for a small fee. You can write it off as a consulting fee) and get some low self-esteem girl from a neighboring state (since there's possibly always a chance you'll actually eventually meet) to send you money via CashApp (I can set it up for you and take a small %... Maybe 25%, since this is money you'll never be able to get otherwise. consider yourself lucky).

Maybe you should go to prison and read some books. Atlas Shrugged. 48 Laws of Power. Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Art of Seduction. Arnold's book "Total Recall". House of Cards, the one about Bear Stern's, not the other one,.and not about the Netflix series....about Ace Greenberg, JP Morgan, and most importantly, Jimmy Cayne, and him looking for people who were "PSD's"; people who were Poor, Smart, & a Deep Desire to be rich. The Wizard of Lies, about Maddoff. The Smartest Guys in the Room, about Enron. Etc... You may learn something.

Maybe pick up a PT Cert that's nationally recognized. Maybe a sports nutrition Cert as well, of course you'd probably need someone to take these tests for you since it's probably above you're ability to learn proper training and nutrition.

Maybe learn some imjection techniques and learn how to oh, well I guess you might need to learn some basic compounding pharmacology first, and make your own site injection oil, sterile of course, and news that seem plenty of fish account to advertise ass injections two women. It's a big market there buddy. You could charge $3-5k for 3wks of treatment per woman... Or tranny.

Or you could also lean some advanced pharmacology and pharmaceutical science as well as some compounding pharmacology and start your own UGL with the money you've saved from the stuff above, or get some investors from the knowledge you gained from reading some of the books I recommended above as well and pay no money out of pocket for the initial start up cost on the UGL. Of course it'd help if you looked like the products worked initially, or if it sounded like you knew what you were talking about when talking to potential customers. That's an easy $5-10k/m right there... Maybe $3k if you just wholesale or do a consignment deal to someone who looks like they have a gym membership. We'll call that "passive income", since you're not doing much of the work.

Or you could learn about drop-shipping and sell $2 watches and sunglasses you get off Ali-Express, and sell on eBay for $6.

I could teach you all of this for a small fee, of course. Then maybe you could turn your $600/month on sushi (like I used to spend) into $8,400/month on a few mortgages instead of spending it on heroin like I did.

... Then you can decide if you'd still check into getbig here & there after.

I'm not interested in any illegal activity but I'd like to know more about flipping those watches.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 07:10:44 PM
Ever been addicted/physically dependant on something? You'll hustle and make as much money as you can. I'm a businessman. I've always had multiple streams of income. You're likely just a worker with 1 income stream. Maybe get in shape, somehow make yourself handsome (you may need some plastic surgery. Call it an "investment") and post a profile on POF (you may need someone who can write, and some with a personality & knows how to talk to women to write it for you... I may even do it for you for a small fee. You can write it off as a consulting fee) and get some low self-esteem girl from a neighboring state (since there's possibly always a chance you'll actually eventually meet) to send you money via CashApp (I can set it up for you and take a small %... Maybe 25%, since this is money you'll never be able to get otherwise. consider yourself lucky).

Maybe you should go to prison and read some books. Atlas Shrugged. 48 Laws of Power. Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Art of Seduction. Arnold's book "Total Recall". House of Cards, the one about Bear Stern's, not the other one,.and not about the Netflix series....about Ace Greenberg, JP Morgan, and most importantly, Jimmy Cayne, and him looking for people who were "PSD's"; people who were Poor, Smart, & a Deep Desire to be rich. The Wizard of Lies, about Maddoff. The Smartest Guys in the Room, about Enron. Etc... You may learn something.

Maybe pick up a PT Cert that's nationally recognized. Maybe a sports nutrition Cert as well, of course you'd probably need someone to take these tests for you since it's probably above you're ability to learn proper training and nutrition.

Maybe learn some imjection techniques and learn how to oh, well I guess you might need to learn some basic compounding pharmacology first, and make your own site injection oil, sterile of course, and news that seem plenty of fish account to advertise ass injections two women. It's a big market there buddy. You could charge $3-5k for 3wks of treatment per woman... Or tranny.

Or you could also lean some advanced pharmacology and pharmaceutical science as well as some compounding pharmacology and start your own UGL with the money you've saved from the stuff above, or get some investors from the knowledge you gained from reading some of the books I recommended above as well and pay no money out of pocket for the initial start up cost on the UGL. Of course it'd help if you looked like the products worked initially, or if it sounded like you knew what you were talking about when talking to potential customers. That's an easy $5-10k/m right there... Maybe $3k if you just wholesale or do a consignment deal to someone who looks like they have a gym membership. We'll call that "passive income", since you're not doing much of the work.

Or you could learn about drop-shipping and sell $2 watches and sunglasses you get off Ali-Express, and sell on eBay for $6.

I could teach you all of this for a small fee, of course. Then maybe you could turn your $600/month on sushi (like I used to spend) into $8,400/month on a few mortgages instead of spending it on heroin like I did.

... Then you can decide if you'd still check into getbig here & there after.
Dude,I actually skimmed through that ridiculous wall of text and it seems that it is not I who doesn`t have a clue about what you do,but it`s you who has no fucking clue who I even am.

You knew me on Muscle Mayhem !

I grew up in the streets and hustled and bustled all my life..........no need to make up bullshit stories like you.

Yes,I`ve had addiction problems, and I already am a personal trainer...and why do I have to go to prison to read a fucking book ?  LOL  ;D

You fucking imbecile!

No need for POF because I`m not a trick or a hard up goon craving pussy......I`m actually married to a REAL woman.

As far as training and nutrition goes,I have won over 60 trophies in bodybuilding and powerlifting...........h ow many did you win?

I`ll wait!

You`re another one of those all drugs type of guys when it comes to your physique....you know the type,they know every little thing there is to know about gear and use way too much of it just to look like you do........MEDIOCRE !!

You look like shit,even at your so called best you fucking sucked..........nary a cut or any vascularity at all, and swimming in gear............fucking clown!  LOL  ;D

Just want to let you know that while I am not proud of my past as you seem to be,I have ran with some straight up fucking hard core junkies and criminals that would steal your belongings and then make your silly fake ass buy them back with all the money that you have.

Now you got me writing walls of text.................... ....you fucking clown ass phony.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on August 15, 2019, 07:14:22 PM
Dude,I actually skimmed through that ridiculous wall of text and it seems that it is not I who doesn`t have a clue about what you do,but it`s you who has no fucking clue who I even am.

You knew me on Muscle Mayhem !

I grew up in the streets and hustled and bustled all my life..........no need to make up bullshit stories like you.

Yes,I`ve had addiction problems, and I already am a personal trainer...and why do I have to go to prison to read a fucking book ?  LOL  ;D

You fucking imbecile!

No need for POF because I`m not a trick or a hard up goon craving pussy......I`m actually married to a REAL woman.

As far as training and nutrition goes,I have won over 60 trophies in bodybuilding and powerlifting...........h ow many did you win?

I`ll wait!

You`re another one of those all drugs type of guys when it comes top your physique....you know the type,they know every little thing there is to know about gear and use way too much of it just to look like you do........MEDIOCRE !!

You look like shit,even at your so called best you fucking sucked..........nary a cut or any vascularity at all, and swimming in gear............fucking clown!  LOL  ;D

Just want to let you know that while I am not proud of my past as you seem to be,I have ran with some straight up fucking hard core junkies and criminals that would steal your belongings and then make your silly fake ass buy them back with all the money that you have.

Now you got me writing walls of text.................... ....you fucking clown ass phony.
Wes is full of shit !!

Anybody that won over 60 contest would not be posting on getbig.


  :o how does it feel Wesley, HOW DOES IT FEEL?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 07:18:22 PM
Hows your Mr. Olympia training going?  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: che on August 15, 2019, 07:32:12 PM
Dude,I actually skimmed through that ridiculous wall of text and it seems that it is not I who doesn`t have a clue about what you do,but it`s you who has no fucking clue who I even am.

You knew me on Muscle Mayhem !

I grew up in the streets and hustled and bustled all my life..........no need to make up bullshit stories like you.

Yes,I`ve had addiction problems, and I already am a personal trainer...and why do I have to go to prison to read a fucking book ?  LOL  ;D

You fucking imbecile!

No need for POF because I`m not a trick or a hard up goon craving pussy......I`m actually married to a REAL woman.

As far as training and nutrition goes,I have won over 60 trophies in bodybuilding and powerlifting...........h ow many did you win?

I`ll wait!

You`re another one of those all drugs type of guys when it comes to your physique....you know the type,they know every little thing there is to know about gear and use way too much of it just to look like you do........MEDIOCRE !!

You look like shit,even at your so called best you fucking sucked..........nary a cut or any vascularity at all, and swimming in gear............fucking clown!  LOL  ;D

Just want to let you know that while I am not proud of my past as you seem to be,I have ran with some straight up fucking hard core junkies and criminals that would steal your belongings and then make your silly fake ass buy them back with all the money that you have.

Now you got me writing walls of text.................... ....you fucking clown ass phony.
Haha , relax Wes it's not that important
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: chaos on August 15, 2019, 07:36:05 PM
Dude,I actually skimmed through that ridiculous wall of text and it seems that it is not I who doesn`t have a clue about what you do,but it`s you who has no fucking clue who I even am.

You knew me on Muscle Mayhem !

I grew up in the streets and hustled and bustled all my life..........no need to make up bullshit stories like you.

Yes,I`ve had addiction problems, and I already am a personal trainer...and why do I have to go to prison to read a fucking book ?  LOL  ;D

You fucking imbecile!

No need for POF because I`m not a trick or a hard up goon craving pussy......I`m actually married to a REAL woman.

As far as training and nutrition goes,I have won over 60 trophies in bodybuilding and powerlifting...........h ow many did you win?

I`ll wait!

You`re another one of those all drugs type of guys when it comes to your physique....you know the type,they know every little thing there is to know about gear and use way too much of it just to look like you do........MEDIOCRE !!

You look like shit,even at your so called best you fucking sucked..........nary a cut or any vascularity at all, and swimming in gear............fucking clown!  LOL  ;D

Just want to let you know that while I am not proud of my past as you seem to be,I have ran with some straight up fucking hard core junkies and criminals that would steal your belongings and then make your silly fake ass buy them back with all the money that you have.

Now you got me writing walls of text.................... ....you fucking clown ass phony.
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME, FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!111 ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on August 15, 2019, 07:56:09 PM
Hows your Mr. Olympia training going?  ;D

You'll have to wait and see until contest day, just like everyone else.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 08:43:23 PM
Dude,I actually skimmed through that ridiculous wall of text and it seems that it is not I who doesn`t have a clue about what you do,but it`s you who has no fucking clue who I even am.

You knew me on Muscle Mayhem !

I grew up in the streets and hustled and bustled all my life..........no need to make up bullshit stories like you.

Yes,I`ve had addiction problems, and I already am a personal trainer...and why do I have to go to prison to read a fucking book ?  LOL  ;D

You fucking imbecile!

No need for POF because I`m not a trick or a hard up goon craving pussy......I`m actually married to a REAL woman.

As far as training and nutrition goes,I have won over 60 trophies in bodybuilding and powerlifting...........h ow many did you win?

I`ll wait!

You`re another one of those all drugs type of guys when it comes to your physique....you know the type,they know every little thing there is to know about gear and use way too much of it just to look like you do........MEDIOCRE !!

You look like shit,even at your so called best you fucking sucked..........nary a cut or any vascularity at all, and swimming in gear............fucking clown!  LOL  ;D

Just want to let you know that while I am not proud of my past as you seem to be,I have ran with some straight up fucking hard core junkies and criminals that would steal your belongings and then make your silly fake ass buy them back with all the money that you have.

Now you got me writing walls of text.................... ....you fucking clown ass phony.

Skimmed over this "I'm hardcore too!!!" Crying as.well.

I never "ran with hardcore dudes" or "junkies who steal".

I "ran" with regular people and professionals. I knew gang members I high school, and maybe cartel fellas after, but they're businessmen. Not "hardcore dudes".

And I didn't know any other addicts until I went to rehab. Still don't really know any junkies, nor did i.ever refer to myself as a "junkie", because I always worked when using.  

You don't think anybody who wasted 120k on heroin would be on getbig because you can't relate. You think because YOU couldn't spend that much or waste that much, that YOU wouldn't be here. As you said, you were a junkie. I wasn't a junkie. I was a functional addict and physically dependant on opiates. I can't relate to being a junkie..i.never stole anything to pay for my drugs or bills, and i didn't know anybody else who did, as I didn't even know anybody dependant on opiates, pills or heroin.

I care about your "60 bbing trophies" as much as you care about my 3 powerlifting "wins". Being in prison, we didn't exactly get trophies. We got out name engraved on a little plate and screwed into a wall, and when I left I really couldn't care less as I pretty much forgot about them until you asked.

And you seem to think I'm "proud" of my stories. Why? Because I have a good memory and I'm somewhat good at writing out what I went through? That I can recall what I was thinking at the time or how I might include how the weather was at the time. Is that it? Because you can't relate to my ability to recall events and put things into words? Sounds like jealousy and resentment.

Careful, that resentment towards me is usually a trigger for junkies. You may want to just skip reading my posts. Don't want you to relapse on my behalf.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 08:54:06 PM
I never said I was a fucking junkie asshole.............show me where I said that !

Been clean and sober for decades son,I don`t think that any drivel your lame ass could post on a message board could cause me to relapse..............get over yourself loser.

I brought up trophies because you brought up training and nutrition......in order to win trophies,you have to know how to train and how to eat.

I could care less about trophies,been there,done that.

As far as your being a junkie goes,if you`re dependant on opiates like you say,then you`re a fucking junkie.........point,blank, period.

NOBODY and I repeat,NOBODY spends 120K on heroin without dying,going to prison,or being hospitalized for quite some time.

We know your lame ass crime that put you behind bars so I guess you didn`t spend the 120K on heroin after all...............comple te bullshit.

Do you realize how much heroin that is ?

I doubt it.

If you`re so good at writing,stop selling gear and get a job writing fiction,you`re off to a good start so far.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 09:10:05 PM
I never said I was a fucking junkie asshole.............show me where I said that !

Been clean and sober for decades son,I don`t think that any drivel your lame ass could post on a message board could cause me to relapse..............get over yourself loser.

I brought up trophies because you brought up training and nutrition......in order to win trophies,you have to know how to train and how to eat.

I could care less about trophies,been there,done that.

As far as your being a junkie goes,if you`re dependant on opiates like you say,then you`re a fucking junkie.........point,blank, period.

NOBODY and I repeat,NOBODY spends 120K on heroin without dying,going to prison,or being hospitalized for quite some time.

We know your lame ass crime that put you behind bars so I guess you didn`t spend the 120K on heroin after all...............comple te bullshit.

Do you realize how much heroin that is ?

I doubt it.

If you`re so good at writing,stop selling gear and get a job writing fiction,you`re off to a good start so far.

"Ponit blank period"

Why does your kind use that term?

Oh,.and do you snap your fingers 3x in a "Z" pattern when saying it in person?

I'm glad you're an expert.on heroin, and what it costs and what amount people.can take without dying.

Tell me more.

Tell me more about myself. I'm curious.

Do I realize.how much heroin 120k worth is?

Yep. Sure do. Do YOU?

Reply to my post with more of you projecting yourself.

Reply with more "if *I* couldn't do that YOU couldn't have either!" posts. Use all caps next time too.

"Point blank period" (?) Bwaahahahaha use that term some more, too.

Btw, how much Kardashian tv do you watch? Do they do they show that on BET now?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 09:16:41 PM
Hey billy bad ass,I`m not black.

You`re full of shit and you know it as well as I do.

Just because you don`t take kindly to disrespect,doesn`t mean I give a fuck.

If you think that I believe that heroin yarn you`ve spun you`re mistaken............in fact,I know for a fact that you don`t even believe it because it`s bullshit.

This ain`t a pissing contest,it`s just me calling you out on your bullshit lies.

You`re dismissed !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 15, 2019, 09:37:30 PM
Hey billy bad ass,I`m not black.

You`re full of shit and you know it as well as I do.

Just because you don`t take kindly to disrespect,doesn`t mean I give a fuck.

If you think that I believe that heroin yarn you`ve spun you`re mistaken............in fact,I know for a fact that you don`t even believe it because it`s bullshit.

This ain`t a pissing contest,it`s just me calling you out on your bullshit lies.

You`re dismissed !!


Wes - just ignore the delusional Fella
He’s Very Likely Suffers from a Napoleon Complex
With all the grandiose stories of his.

Like yourself I’ve lived a very colourful life at times
To colourful sometimes, and paid dearly for it.
The last thing I want to do is post ( Brag) about it on Getbig
To be seen as some type of Tough / Gangster Type.  ::) ::)

He’s a delusional fantasist as far as I concerned
Uk Jeff / Be There Badly owned him & Exposed Him
Before he was Banned - His Posts May still be there if he / Mods hasn’t
Deleted them.
No matter I’ll just ask him when we next speak.

Get ready for the Diatribe of rhetoric as a rebuttal/ reply.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 09:45:36 PM

Wes - just ignore the delusional Fella
He’s Very Likely Suffers from a Napoleon Complex
With all the grandiose stories of his.

Like yourself I’ve lived a very colourful life at times
To colourful sometimes, and paid dearly for it.
The last thing I want to do is post ( Brag) about it on Getbig
To be seen as some type of Tough / Gangster Type.  ::) ::)

He’s a delusional fantasist as far as I concerned
Uk Jeff / Be There Badly owned him & Exposed Him
Before he was Banned - His Posts May still be there if he / Mods hasn’t
Deleted them.
No matter I’ll just ask him when we next speak.

Get ready for the Diatribe of rhetoric as a rebuttal/ reply.


I hear you my friend,it`s just that I got sick and tired of his nonsensical bullshit lies.
Please tell UKJeff I said hello.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 15, 2019, 09:49:38 PM
I hear you my friend,it`s just that I got sick and tired of his nonsensical bullshit lies.
Please tell UKJeff I said hello.

So do I
It was so much better without his inane postings
I’ll ring Jeff over the wknd he’s had a bit of a rough
Time so far this year - though he’s much better now.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 15, 2019, 10:01:45 PM
Good,I`m glad to hear he`s doing well.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Bevo on August 15, 2019, 10:36:57 PM
Hows your Mr. Olympia training going?  ;D

Wes, can you peel for us since it’s so close to the Olympia? Curious minds would like to know....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 10:49:03 PM

Wes - just ignore the delusional Fella
He’s Very Likely Suffers from a Napoleon Complex
With all the grandiose stories of his.

Like yourself I’ve lived a very colourful life at times
To colourful sometimes, and paid dearly for it.
The last thing I want to do is post ( Brag) about it on Getbig
To be seen as some type of Tough / Gangster Type.  ::) ::)

He’s a delusional fantasist as far as I concerned
Uk Jeff / Be There Badly owned him & Exposed Him
Before he was Banned - His Posts May still be there if he / Mods hasn’t
Deleted them.
No matter I’ll just ask him when we next speak.

Get ready for the Diatribe of rhetoric as a rebuttal/ reply.



Hey genious, I requested to be "banned". Actually I requested to be "deleted", but that would've been a lot of work. Feel free to run it by any of the mods, unless you're gonna tell me more about things you know nothing about.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 15, 2019, 11:10:45 PM
Hey billy bad ass,I`m not black.

You`re full of shit and you know it as well as I do.

Just because you don`t take kindly to disrespect,doesn`t mean I give a fuck.

If you think that I believe that heroin yarn you`ve spun you`re mistaken............in fact,I know for a fact that you don`t even believe it because it`s bullshit.

This ain`t a pissing contest,it`s just me calling you out on your bullshit lies.

You`re dismissed !!

You didn't tell me any of the parts where I was wrong. You ignored the questions because you don't know what you're talking about and can't back it up.

"It's just me calling you out" bwahahaha.... Feel.free to tell me where I'm wrong.

In fact, a sugar momma called and.asked.what I was having for dinner and I told her hamburger helper lasagna. .. then I thought "shit, am I really eating hamburger helper? I gotta ask that champion junkie wes... Just to double check".
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on August 15, 2019, 11:20:25 PM


Or you could learn about drop-shipping and sell $2 watches and sunglasses you get off Ali-Express, and sell on eBay for $6.

I could teach you all of this for a small fee, of course. Then maybe you could turn your $600/month on sushi (like I used to spend) into $8,400/month on a few mortgages instead of spending it on heroin like I did.

... Then you can decide if you'd still check into getbig here & there after.

Bro what about this drop ship and flip?

How quick is the turn around? What are the shipping costs? Etc..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 16, 2019, 12:10:46 AM
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.


(https://media2.giphy.com/media/axL4NMhM8FddK/source.gif)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 16, 2019, 01:03:50 AM
Hey genious, I requested to be "banned". Actually I requested to be "deleted", but that would've been a lot of work. Feel free to run it by any of the mods, unless you're gonna tell me more about things you know nothing about.

Cleary You are Not Genius - - or Spell.
I was referring to UK Jeff Being Banned after He Exposed Your Nonsense.

Try again Boy.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on August 16, 2019, 04:57:32 AM
Dude,I actually skimmed through that ridiculous wall of text and it seems that it is not I who doesn`t have a clue about what you do,but it`s you who has no fucking clue who I even am.

You knew me on Muscle Mayhem !

I grew up in the streets and hustled and bustled all my life..........no need to make up bullshit stories like you.

Yes,I`ve had addiction problems, and I already am a personal trainer...and why do I have to go to prison to read a fucking book ?  LOL  ;D

You fucking imbecile!

No need for POF because I`m not a trick or a hard up goon craving pussy......I`m actually married to a REAL woman.

As far as training and nutrition goes,I have won over 60 trophies in bodybuilding and powerlifting...........h ow many did you win?

I`ll wait!

You`re another one of those all drugs type of guys when it comes to your physique....you know the type,they know every little thing there is to know about gear and use way too much of it just to look like you do........MEDIOCRE !!

You look like shit,even at your so called best you fucking sucked..........nary a cut or any vascularity at all, and swimming in gear............fucking clown!  LOL  ;D

Just want to let you know that while I am not proud of my past as you seem to be,I have ran with some straight up fucking hard core junkies and criminals that would steal your belongings and then make your silly fake ass buy them back with all the money that you have.

Now you got me writing walls of text.................... ....you fucking clown ass phony.

 What criminals did you run with, Wes?  Billy the Kid? Jesse James? Butch Cassidy?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 16, 2019, 05:02:01 AM
Goodrum is owning ESF so hard, that soon ESF will send a PM to Goodrum, begging to bottom for him.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 16, 2019, 07:28:19 AM
Bro what about this drop ship and flip?

How quick is the turn around? What are the shipping costs? Etc..


None, because only a moron would drop ship from Ali-Express.  Shipping cost would kill you along with all of the suppliers on Ali-Express sell on Ebay as well.  ESFWALDO basically took something from my previous postings about my business and tried to embellish himself
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: chaos on August 16, 2019, 10:38:00 AM
What criminals did you run with, Wes?  Billy the Kid? Jesse James? Butch Cassidy?
Genghis Khan, Napoleon, George Washington
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2019, 11:01:31 AM

None, because only a moron would drop ship from Ali-Express.  Shipping cost would kill you along with all of the suppliers on Ali-Express sell on Ebay as well.  ESFWALDO basically took something from my previous postings about my business and tried to embellish himself

Took something about your business? Bwahahaha what business is that? I don't even bother to read your little comments in other threads.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: DooM_ on August 16, 2019, 11:05:17 AM

None, because only a moron would drop ship from Ali-Express.  Shipping cost would kill you along with all of the suppliers on Ali-Express sell on Ebay as well.  ESFWALDO basically took something from my previous postings about my business and tried to embellish himself

are you saying esf's business plan wouldn't work . . . ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 16, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
are you saying esf's business plan wouldn't work . . . ?


Its impossible for it to work.   You can't price match with your own supplier that's also selling goods on Ebay.   My old suppliers....Body Solid, Sunny Fitness, Under The Sun, etc exclusively left all of their sales to distributors such as myself.   The only exception would be selling at a flea market maybe but that's always a huge risk.   However ESF has neither the means or credit line to significantly buy anything wholesale.   Crackheads can only afford the cheapest crack available...he can't even afford to buy higher quality crack
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 16, 2019, 11:11:55 AM
What criminals did you run with, Wes?  Billy the Kid? Jesse James? Butch Cassidy?

Moses and his Part-the-Sea Posse.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2019, 12:04:05 PM

Its impossible for it to work.   You can't price match with your own supplier that's also selling goods on Ebay.   My old suppliers....Body Solid, Sunny Fitness, Under The Sun, etc exclusively left all of their sales to distributors such as myself.   The only exception would be selling at a flea market maybe but that's always a huge risk.   However ESF has neither the means or credit line to significantly buy anything wholesale.   Crackheads can only afford the cheapest crack available...he can't even afford to buy higher quality crack

Meth and now crack eh? I hardly crink caffeine you obese fuck. Jesus Christ at least get the drugs I used to use right.

You have to resort to making shit up about me while I just point out facts about you. You're obese and delusional thinking you have any muscle. You have tits that look like cucumbers, or some sort of tuber. You're cross-eyed without your coke-bottle glasses. You have a lisp. You can pass a golf club handle through the gap in the teeth, like you're missing a middle tooth the size of a Chiclet.

See? All facts.

Reply to me and tell mé.more about myself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: DooM_ on August 16, 2019, 12:25:35 PM
Meth and now crack eh? I hardly crink caffeine you obese fuck. Jesus Christ at least get the drugs I used to use right.

You have to resort to making shit up about me while I just point out facts about you. You're obese and delusional thinking you have any muscle. You have tits that look like cucumbers, or some sort of tuber. You're cross-eyed without your coke-bottle glasses. You have a lisp. You can pass a golf club handle through the gap in the teeth, like you're missing a middle tooth the size of a Chiclet.

See? All facts.

Reply to me and tell mé.more about myself.

what about his argument that you can't compete against your own supplier on ebay . . . ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 16, 2019, 12:31:06 PM
I have been having Trazodone withdrawal since he left, so i am hoping he will return so i can get my things in order.

Hoping very much Eric returns shortly, because we are barely holding on.

who do you love more, eric or go4it guiseppe? (no homo)  :D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 16, 2019, 12:36:10 PM
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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 16, 2019, 12:38:45 PM
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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2019, 12:53:20 PM
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.


(https://media2.giphy.com/media/axL4NMhM8FddK/source.gif)

You realize you come of as resentful towards me because I can translate events in my life into words. Being an admitted "ex,-junkie", you should know resentments are the main causes of relapse. Careful there Lil buddy.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2019, 12:57:02 PM
what about his argument that you can't compete against your own supplier on ebay . . . ?

Look for yourself. The same items on Ali-Express are on eBay at 50-200% higher.

Mr. Cucumber-tits 🥒 must think someone would expect to have drop-shipping anything would be your primary or only income stream. What a fucken idiot.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 16, 2019, 12:59:08 PM
Cleary You are Not Genius - - or Spell.
I was referring to UK Jeff Being Banned after He Exposed Your Nonsense.

Try again Boy.


Didn't notice and.dont care
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 16, 2019, 01:04:06 PM
who do you love more, eric or go4it guiseppe? (no homo)  :D

1. Marty Falcon (always)

2. Giuseppe 4 It

3. DP

4. Eric


(NO HOMER of course)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 16, 2019, 01:22:33 PM
who do you love more, eric or go4it guiseppe? (no homo)  :D

Love is too strong an emotion to feel for either of these fellows. I like them both from what little I know about them via Getbig. Eric spins great and interesting yarns or maybe they are true stories. His videos can be dynamic, if a bit too long. Go4It stays on the topic of bodybuilding. What he's posted regarding his recent progress is a good example of this. Does Go4It have teeth? -Never seen him smile.

In reference to the above post, Falcon is a genuinely nice fellow. He's definitely a deep thinker, always exploring new concepts. It's good that he's working on getting himself in better physical condition. Dropping Plates' posts are very succinct, filled with good advice and logic. One gets the impression that he's good people.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 16, 2019, 01:53:07 PM
Fitness Frenzy

Taffin

Wes



ALL HOMER!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 16, 2019, 02:48:28 PM
Look for yourself. The same items on Ali-Express are on eBay at 50-200% higher.

Mr. Cucumber-tits 🥒 must think someone would expect to have drop-shipping anything would be your primary or only income stream. What a fucken idiot.

No they are not jackass, they are calculating in the free shipping you stupid bastard.  You havent sold anything from AliExpress because you are broke and full of shit
 Otherwise...prove it
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 16, 2019, 05:08:20 PM
Didn't notice and.dont care


Excuse Me
Did you say something of any importance
Nope I didn’t think so.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 16, 2019, 06:28:57 PM
try full-contact fighting and submission wrestling in prison for money for quite a few years.. fighting with broken bones and ignoring injuries (can't get a cast or stiches without getting put in the 'hole', so you learn how to sew your own cuts shut with sharpened guitar string and thin 'beading line').. no real 'rules', and where the solution to every problem is murder.. literally.. for some guys. so long as your willing to go further and harder than the other guy, you won't get fucked with.. but then you end up getting jumped by Indians and kneegrows and you gotta learn to "do your worst, fast and first".

takes some effort to lose that mentality when you get out though.


(https://media.tenor.com/images/d1a455a115942a372a54cd7ffb2c8182/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 16, 2019, 06:40:08 PM
I think he operated on his brain if he expects me to believe his nonsensical fantasies.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Costanza on August 16, 2019, 06:51:59 PM
Anyone got a link to the stream of the battle between Big Wes and Big ESF?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 16, 2019, 09:56:05 PM
try full-contact fighting and submission wrestling in prison for money for quite a few years.. fighting with broken bones and ignoring injuries (can't get a cast or stiches without getting put in the 'hole', so you learn how to sew your own cuts shut with sharpened guitar string and thin 'beading line').. no real 'rules', and where the solution to every problem is murder.. literally.. for some guys. so long as your willing to go further and harder than the other guy, you won't get fucked with.. but then you end up getting jumped by Indians and kneegrows and you gotta learn to "do your worst, fast and first".

takes some effort to lose that mentality when you get out though.




👍🏻 Oh yeah Right.

“Every man has a place
In his heart, there's a space
And the world can't erase his fantasies
Take a ride in the sky
On our ship, fantasize
All your dreams will come true right away”

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 16, 2019, 10:20:16 PM


;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on August 16, 2019, 11:47:12 PM
 :D

Fitness Frenzy

Taffin

Wes


ALL HOMER!

Once the date has been set for the 'Wes vs ESF' fight (Set it up!!! ;D) I'll book us a hotel room and we can watch it together while eating popcorn and shouting GetBig phrases' at the TV...  :-*   
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 17, 2019, 02:05:32 AM
try full-contact fighting and submission wrestling in prison for money for quite a few years.. fighting with broken bones and ignoring injuries (can't get a cast or stiches without getting put in the 'hole', so you learn how to sew your own cuts shut with sharpened guitar string and thin 'beading line').. no real 'rules', and where the solution to every problem is murder.. literally.. for some guys. so long as your willing to go further and harder than the other guy, you won't get fucked with.. but then you end up getting jumped by Indians and kneegrows and you gotta learn to "do your worst, fast and first".

takes some effort to lose that mentality when you get out though.


(https://media.tenor.com/images/d1a455a115942a372a54cd7ffb2c8182/tenor.gif)


You realize you're projecting yourself into my posts. If YOU haven't, couldn't, or wouldn't, do such a thing that I recall and have written about, than SURELY nobody else can, has, or.would.  your eagle is fucking pathetic we hurt buy stories of shit that I have forgotten. If you would ask me today what happened with that car accident at the course of America with homeboys brains all over my arms I will tell you word for word, as I have with more than one person on this board over the phone.

Wesley, you are biting off more than you can chew. I don't give a flying fuck about you and I can't remember anything about you because I really do not care today, nor did I care back in 2005 on muscle mayhem which you we're so what's the word,?, What the fuck ever .... you wanted me to remember you as if you were a somebody and you expected me to remember you as a somebody but, you unfortunately are a nobody. And junkies like you (I realize you don't start sentences with "and" , , you build resentments towards people who, (what's the word)....

Maybe you're jealous of even though there's nothing to be jealous about. Maybe you're jealous of the way I can relate events in my life in two words and you somehow turn that into me being "proud" of certain things I've done or been through.


You, like a few others, I think that the things I say aren't true, yet people like you, who who's who's space in your head I occupy so much come off or so so little, and you allow it. Even though it brings up these resentments in you that are going to drive you right back to smoking and snorting and shooting meth, because you are like me. You somehow think that you know what $120,000 will buy x amount of heroin or whatever dot-dot-dot that tells me exactly that you are and ask meth junkie. In your own words. I was never a junkie. Keep that in mind. Me and you,? We are nothing alike. Look at the words you still spew the grammar there's you still use the term "point blank period."...(you have absolutely no clue how absolutely fucking stupid you sound, not only when you type it, but I imagine you see that term using your mouth more then once a week, if not once a day. That term, saying that those words? You sound like a fucking imbecile and you don't even realize... And  "Tough wannabe ass thug" (all in camps by the way on your part,)

I'm juggling a few things at once right now, as you're not all that important to me ,b (I get it. I don't give a flying fuck about you, while you on the other hand, go to sleep every night thinking about what you're going to say to me when given the chance)...  So whatever I say, causes you to develop a great resentment towards me, while it doesn't seem to have that same effect on anybody else here, - two or three other people who have oh, well "mental illness", i guess we'll call it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 17, 2019, 02:27:56 AM
You realize you're projecting yourself into my posts. If YOU haven't, couldn't, or wouldn't, do such a thing that I recall and have written about, than SURELY nobody else can, has, or.would.  your eagle is fucking pathetic we hurt buy stories of shit that I have forgotten. If you would ask me today what happened with that car accident at the course of America with homeboys brains all over my arms I will tell you word for word, as I have with more than one person on this board over the phone.

Wesley, you are biting off more than you can chew. I don't give a flying fuck about you and I can't remember anything about you because I really do not care today, nor did I care back in 2005 on muscle mayhem which you we're so what's the word,?, What the fuck ever .... you wanted me to remember you as if you were a somebody and you expected me to remember you as a somebody but, you unfortunately are a nobody. And junkies like you (I realize you don't start sentences with "and" , , you build resentments towards people who, (what's the word)....

Maybe you're jealous of even though there's nothing to be jealous about. Maybe you're jealous of the way I can relate events in my life in two words and you somehow turn that into me being "proud" of certain things I've done or been through.


You, like a few others, I think that the things I say aren't true, yet people like you, who who's who's space in your head I occupy so much come off or so so little, and you allow it. Even though it brings up these resentments in you that are going to drive you right back to smoking and snorting and shooting meth, because you are like me. You somehow think that you know what $120,000 will buy x amount of heroin or whatever dot-dot-dot that tells me exactly that you are and ask meth junkie. In your own words. I was never a junkie. Keep that in mind. Me and you,? We are nothing alike. Look at the words you still spew the grammar there's you still use the term "point blank period."...(you have absolutely no clue how absolutely fucking stupid you sound, not only when you type it, but I imagine you see that term using your mouth more then once a week, if not once a day. That term, saying that those words? You sound like a fucking imbecile and you don't even realize... And  "Tough wannabe ass thug" (all in camps by the way on your part,)

I'm juggling a few things at once right now, as you're not all that important to me ,b (I get it. I don't give a flying fuck about you, while you on the other hand, go to sleep every night thinking about what you're going to say to me when given the chance)...  So whatever I say, causes you to develop a great resentment towards me, while it doesn't seem to have that same effect on anybody else here, - two or three other people who have oh, well "mental illness", i guess we'll call it.


👍🏻 Oh yeah Right.

“Every man has a place
In his heart, there's a space
And the world can't erase his fantasies
Take a ride in the sky
On our ship, fantasize
All your dreams will come true right away”

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Jeez You’re supposedly a grown adult man
Do you not realise just how pathetic & Stupid
You come across as with the incoherent
Walls of text you post.

Smarten Up Boy.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 17, 2019, 02:31:31 AM
Read through this entire thread to get caught up....Wes and illuminate are dead on.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 17, 2019, 02:51:30 AM
ESF, it is pretty simple. Instead of the long essays, simply post proof of all your wild claims.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: mazrim on August 17, 2019, 04:19:51 AM
Read through this entire thread to get caught up....Wes and illuminate are dead on.
Yep, Wes is crushing his tall tales.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2019, 04:29:14 AM
If ESFITNESS spent 120k a month on heroin, that’s an average of $4,000 per day. Unless he was selling most of it, but not using.  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: DooM_ on August 17, 2019, 04:29:26 AM
Look for yourself. The same items on Ali-Express are on eBay at 50-200% higher.

Mr. Cucumber-tits 🥒 must think someone would expect to have drop-shipping anything would be your primary or only income stream. What a fucken idiot.

from your experience , for a store on instagram or social media , how many followers would you estimate to be needed minimum to get enough exposure to regularly sell items . . . ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 17, 2019, 05:43:24 AM
If ESFITNESS spent 120k a month on heroin, that’s an average of $4,000 per day. Unless he was selling most of it, but not using.  ??? ??? ??? ???

Fantasy land
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: IronMeister on August 17, 2019, 05:58:05 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPS9rRY2/esf-getbig.png)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 17, 2019, 06:15:28 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 17, 2019, 06:36:22 AM
If ESFITNESS spent 120k a month on heroin, that’s an average of $4,000 per day. Unless he was selling most of it, but not using.  ??? ??? ??? ???

Since when is it 120k a month? It's 120k total, dipshit
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 17, 2019, 06:51:29 AM
I was leaving the parking lot since the event ran a little late and the parking lots were absolutely. This resort in La Quinta California and I was next in line to make a right hand turn onto the road that would then allow me to turn left on the main Street, however I waved this black mustang ahead of me to let him go since I was in no hurry and may have been on my phone, I forget. So I go next with my right hand turn on behind this black mustang and we're all making a left hand turn he's the first car inline I'm II and the light turns green and he takes off to make a left and I hear the scream of an engine accelerating, glanced to my left and see a blur of a car T-Bone the black mustang right in front of me making a left hand turn. The car that hit him was obviously accelerating that was at 1 must have been well over 100 miles per hour and make the yellow light. I immediately pull over put on my flashers and run up to the car passing by parts of body work everywhere all over the road I didn't even see the car that hit him yet I couldn't tell which car was which yet but I got to the black mustang first on the passenger side and they already have the door open and talking to the girl who was obviously concussed and didn't exactly know what had happened yet and had a compound fracture in her leg somehow and run over to the driver side and there are a couple of guys trying to get the door open and we got the door open and I had two phones on me and used both as flashlights, one guy was saying I'm an EMT I'm an EMT but he wasn't doing jack fucking shit just sitting there panic and I look over just for a second and just like five ten feet away there's a crowd of like 10 people just sitting there watching us not trying to help whatsoever and finally we get the door open anyways, and the guy kind of slumps out sideways so I grab a hold of him and try to stabilize his neck at least. Never pull them out of the car, I never attempted CPR how to figure a neck injury. I gave my phone to the guy who said he was in EMT or whatever and told him flash my light flash the flashlight into the door the door sill and see if there's a window in there yet so I couldn't tell if he had hit his head on the window and it was gone or the window was down or whatever I don't know if that made any difference or not but at the time that's I guess that's what I did that was my first thing that came to my mind. So I had this guy's head in the crook of my arm and having other guy hold my phone with a flashlight flashing his flashlight on the guy and I took my flashlight and with my left hand trying to open up his pupils and check and see if his pupils are dilating still which at the time at first they were and then I was doing sternum rubs trying to revive them wake him up(is sternum rub is going to rub your knuckles on somebody's sternum who's unconscious and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess will wake them up a little bit if they are semi conscious or Not Dead. and the pain from the from the rug which is quite painful I guess well wake them up a little bit if they are semi-conscious or Not Dead.) Sternum rubs had no effect and as I kept trying to talk to the guy wake them up a little bit and flash my flashlight on my phone flashlight whatever around the car to see if I can see anything what IDM you got a class ring on I forget thee your the class ring now I know I had a blue stone and I believe you would have graduated if I remember correctly maybe two years prior. The videos are still on my IG. The guy or guys I should say on the other side of the car were doing something stupid or whatever you trying to talk to the girl and I kept trying to yell to the girl or y'all to the guys I guess talking to the girl and making sure she did look over and keep her talking to them and not look over at him her boyfriend I would assume. and I sat there for fucking what must have felt like 10 minutes or so with his head in the crook of my arm and like drool or some shit that comes out of his mouth or whatever and kept trying to check his pupils with my phone with a flashlight and eventually they stopped constricting they just kind of stay dilated there is no response. His breathing was faint and his pulse was threading and getting weaker and weaker. I couldn't see any obvious signs of trauma and then the EMTs arrived a lady I remember and she said here let him go I'm like I'm holding his head here she knows I got it I'm fine that's fine I got it and then first things out of her mouth loud loud enough for the girlfriend to hear which I thought was fucking disrespectful and just come with the complete lack of tact saying "he's gone or he's done",  and I stepped back and let them take over and walking away I saw the other mustang that had hit him and I didn't even bother going over there and as I was walking back and got back in my car I realized I had two dudes brains all over the sleeve of My Adidas tracksuit jacket.

I made a few videos after that before I headed home and made a video when I got home smoking a cigar should I take in the hole I guess event very last night some dude just died in my arms some young kid probably 19 years old taking his girlfriend to go see the same things I want to see my loud roaring Lamborghinis with flames shooting mufflers all that stuff dot-dot-dot and I had my own DUI court date just a few days after that and I'm sitting in court and the falcon curricula judge sits there and gives me I'll lecture about drinking and driving and how there was just an accident where two men lost their lives and I wanted to speak up and and tell this fucking prick "yeah dude, I was there and one. And I had one of the guys you're talking about guy in my arms so I don't need any lectures about the dangers of drinking and driving especially since both of those drivers were proven to be stone sober"  (I ended up spending six weeks in jail none the less).  most fucked-up part about the whole night was the way that female EMT just disregarded the dude who did just died in my arms do I have his brains all over the sleeve of my jacket just talk about him like he's just dead cattle in the slaughter yard well within earshot of is girlfriend. While I was in county jail I managed to find out the name of the guy and contacted his parents and wrote them a letter and explain to them everything that happened and how when he passed he passed most likely instantly and wasn't in pain whatsoever.

So that's what happened with that.  I've seen dead bodies before I've seen some gruesome shit in the highway for the people are already dead, torn in half. I had friends die in front of me stabbings however we didn't know they were stabbed (lungs punctured)!at the time and they ended up just falling over dead.

When I was in prison my first week I went down to use the weight room each unit at that time at the prison I was at had to wait room with a universal machine and some bench press benches. And I came across a guy obviously committed suicide put 315 on the bar I just had hanging back over the bench unrack the bar and just let it go and decapitated himself even if spine just poking ivis neck I can cartoon enormous puddle of blood that smell like 1000 pennies. (He was a rat who testified against the Caucasian brotherhood but was still set to be transferred to a prison in Texas where there is an open hit on him so I guess he figured he would do it himself. That was a I guess difficult what's the term fuck I don't know image to describe to describe where is the dude's head hanging on by the skin off the back of a bench with his spine just sticking out or just look like it was curved forward instead of instead of backward like at you like you would think. But anyways..... I think that dude died in my arms at that car show and more of an effect on me because well number one he died in my arms and I thought he was still fucking alive I had no idea you was leaking brains on my sleeve, and number two if I had no way of Tim to go in front of me, it would have been me T-Bone and smashed by that other dude in the mustang. By the way the other dude in the mustang (who ran the red)  and his girlfriend both died at the scene.


(https://media2.giphy.com/media/axL4NMhM8FddK/source.gif)

Btw, glad you think a young kid, I forget the age & don't care to re-read what I wrote, I believe he'd graduated the previous yr going by his class ring with the blue crystal, so like 19/20? Glad wes thinks that's funny. Maybe his 19yr old son, or nephew can meet the same fate in front of him and we can laugh at it and post little gifs and memes....  Same with the fella who killed himself (& got all the on-unit workout rooms taken away & turned into study rooms), dude was a rat, but glad you think that was funny as well. Maybe your brother or cousin or nephew or even your wife or daughter can do the same and we can all post some funny memes about it.

It'll be a funny story, right?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 17, 2019, 06:53:41 AM
Read through this entire thread to get caught up....Wes and illuminate are dead on.

"Dead on" about what?

Take your little midget fingers and hit the back-button and feel free to show us all.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2019, 06:56:36 AM
Since when is it 120k a month? It's 120k total, dipshit

We all know that your stories are all lies.

No one believes you. Not one person on here.

Just admit it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: rocket on August 17, 2019, 07:11:21 AM
"Dead on" about what?

Take your little midget fingers and hit the back-button and feel free to show us all.

Regardless of the veracity of what you're saying - you have to admit, it might sound far fetched in the context of the density of stories you have.

I have some contact with a family of pathological liars and they have the same constant stream of oddness from their own stories.  There is never a dull moment.  For example, one of them ran out of money - but instead of admitting such, they go around telling everybody their account was cleaned out by afghan terrorists..   

Don't bother defending yourself to me, though - I've no fucking idea whether you speak truth, nor will I ever think for one second about it.  I don't know why you bother telling these stories.  What is the point?  People just accuse you of talking shit.  Waste of time saying this stuff. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: B R on August 17, 2019, 07:31:33 AM
We all know that your stories are all lies.

No one believes you. Not one person on here.

Just admit it.
This. You crazy bastard.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 17, 2019, 07:38:05 AM
We all know that your stories are all lies.

No one believes you. Not one person on here.

Just admit it.

I believe him.

 ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on August 17, 2019, 07:59:59 AM
Over how long was the 120k spent? It's a lot of money to spend on dope but possible over a long ass time if you are buying large amounts and paying over the odds.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 11:27:38 AM
You realize you're projecting yourself into my posts. If YOU haven't, couldn't, or wouldn't, do such a thing that I recall and have written about, than SURELY nobody else can, has, or.would.  your eagle is fucking pathetic we hurt buy stories of shit that I have forgotten. If you would ask me today what happened with that car accident at the course of America with homeboys brains all over my arms I will tell you word for word, as I have with more than one person on this board over the phone.

Wesley, you are biting off more than you can chew. I don't give a flying fuck about you and I can't remember anything about you because I really do not care today, nor did I care back in 2005 on muscle mayhem which you we're so what's the word,?, What the fuck ever .... you wanted me to remember you as if you were a somebody and you expected me to remember you as a somebody but, you unfortunately are a nobody. And junkies like you (I realize you don't start sentences with "and" , , you build resentments towards people who, (what's the word)....

Maybe you're jealous of even though there's nothing to be jealous about. Maybe you're jealous of the way I can relate events in my life in two words and you somehow turn that into me being "proud" of certain things I've done or been through.


You, like a few others, I think that the things I say aren't true, yet people like you, who who's who's space in your head I occupy so much come off or so so little, and you allow it. Even though it brings up these resentments in you that are going to drive you right back to smoking and snorting and shooting meth, because you are like me. You somehow think that you know what $120,000 will buy x amount of heroin or whatever dot-dot-dot that tells me exactly that you are and ask meth junkie. In your own words. I was never a junkie. Keep that in mind. Me and you,? We are nothing alike. Look at the words you still spew the grammar there's you still use the term "point blank period."...(you have absolutely no clue how absolutely fucking stupid you sound, not only when you type it, but I imagine you see that term using your mouth more then once a week, if not once a day. That term, saying that those words? You sound like a fucking imbecile and you don't even realize... And  "Tough wannabe ass thug" (all in camps by the way on your part,)

I'm juggling a few things at once right now, as you're not all that important to me ,b (I get it. I don't give a flying fuck about you, while you on the other hand, go to sleep every night thinking about what you're going to say to me when given the chance)...  So whatever I say, causes you to develop a great resentment towards me, while it doesn't seem to have that same effect on anybody else here, - two or three other people who have oh, well "mental illness", i guess we'll call it.
You`re not in my head you fool...........we are on getbig.com where we call people out on their bullshit and all your tall tales are just that........BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 17, 2019, 11:33:08 AM
I believe Eric


I'm on Martys fence, Go4Its cruiseship, DPs Sofa and Erics 120k mound of heroin.


(https://i.postimg.cc/nhgByDnc/776r6kr7.gif)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 11:34:43 AM
Over how long was the 120k spent? It's a lot of money to spend on dope but possible over a long ass time if you are buying large amounts and paying over the odds.
The point is,that 120K worth of heroin is a veritable humongous amount of heroin for 1 person to use,even in 2 lifetimes.

He`d be long dead or incapacitated for life right now if he used all that over any amount of time.

If he lived,he`d be a complete mess of a person and would be unable or not even remotely interested in posting on getbig or doing almost anything at all.

Just for the record,most of you guys have known me for years from being on here and you must know that I would never laugh at anyones death like this idiot thinks I`m doing.

I just don`t believe his ridiculous story and you shouldn`t either unless of course you believe in fairy tales.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 17, 2019, 11:35:02 AM
You realize you're projecting yourself into my posts. If YOU haven't, couldn't, or wouldn't, do such a thing that I recall and have written about, than SURELY nobody else can, has, or.would.  your eagle is fucking pathetic we hurt buy stories of shit that I have forgotten. If you would ask me today what happened with that car accident at the course of America with homeboys brains all over my arms I will tell you word for word, as I have with more than one person on this board over the phone.

Wesley, you are biting off more than you can chew. I don't give a flying fuck about you and I can't remember anything about you because I really do not care today, nor did I care back in 2005 on muscle mayhem which you we're so what's the word,?, What the fuck ever .... you wanted me to remember you as if you were a somebody and you expected me to remember you as a somebody but, you unfortunately are a nobody. And junkies like you (I realize you don't start sentences with "and" , , you build resentments towards people who, (what's the word)....

Maybe you're jealous of even though there's nothing to be jealous about. Maybe you're jealous of the way I can relate events in my life in two words and you somehow turn that into me being "proud" of certain things I've done or been through.


You, like a few others, I think that the things I say aren't true, yet people like you, who who's who's space in your head I occupy so much come off or so so little, and you allow it. Even though it brings up these resentments in you that are going to drive you right back to smoking and snorting and shooting meth, because you are like me. You somehow think that you know what $120,000 will buy x amount of heroin or whatever dot-dot-dot that tells me exactly that you are and ask meth junkie. In your own words. I was never a junkie. Keep that in mind. Me and you,? We are nothing alike. Look at the words you still spew the grammar there's you still use the term "point blank period."...(you have absolutely no clue how absolutely fucking stupid you sound, not only when you type it, but I imagine you see that term using your mouth more then once a week, if not once a day. That term, saying that those words? You sound like a fucking imbecile and you don't even realize... And  "Tough wannabe ass thug" (all in camps by the way on your part,)

I'm juggling a few things at once right now, as you're not all that important to me ,b (I get it. I don't give a flying fuck about you, while you on the other hand, go to sleep every night thinking about what you're going to say to me when given the chance)...  So whatever I say, causes you to develop a great resentment towards me, while it doesn't seem to have that same effect on anybody else here, - two or three other people who have oh, well "mental illness", i guess we'll call it.


“Dreamer, you know you are a dreamer
Well can you put your hands in your head, oh no!
I said dreamer, you're nothing but a dreamer
Well can you put your hands in your head, oh no!
I said "far out, what a day, a year, a life it is!"
You know, well you know, you had it comin' to you
Now, there's not a lot I can do
Dreamer, you stupid little dreamer
So now you put your head in your hands, oh no
I said, "far out, what a day, a year, a life it is!"
You know, well you know, you had it comin' to you
Now, there's not a lot I can do”

HTH.
 ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 11:45:21 AM


;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 17, 2019, 12:07:13 PM

I just don`t believe his ridiculous story and you shouldn`t either unless of course you believe in fairy tales.

Cough, cough...60 bodybuilding trophies.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 12:10:46 PM
Cough, cough...60 bodybuilding trophies.
Around 63 or 64,I don`t remember.

Some I won while doing the Open class,Over-35,and Over 40 classes all in one show.

As years passed,I have placed in the open,over 40 and over 50 in some shows,but have probably competed in around 45-50 seperate contests........I don`t know.

I figured if I`m in shape,why not do the crossover if I felt I could place with younger competitors.

Placed 4th. in my class in my first contest in 1987 and stopped competing in 2011.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 01:14:40 PM
forgot one..

dropped off some orders at the pharm in TJ and had some time to kill while they were boxed up, so I figure i'd head over and hang out at a strip club (it was 11am on a sunday... sounded better than eating shrimp lobster and watching tourists in the hot sun), so I head out completely forgetting I put a bag of 90 proviron's in my pocket.

so I head down to the club where an ex-gf dances and I hang out for a while drinking cokes and puff on a big fat Davidoff Churchill... then a girl with thick thighs and big tits catches my eye.. so she comes over and sits on my lap and asks if I want a dance.. I say no (I've never paid for a dance... let alone given a stripper even a dollar... unless I dated them). she doesn't seem too concerned and hangs out with me for an hour ordering me free cokes and telling me how pretty my blue eyes are and squeezing my shoulders... after a while my legs were getting tired from this bitch sitting on my lap for an hour and I say I gotta go, so she gets up and I go piss and leave a $10 on the table for the drinks.

as i'm walking out she kisses me on the cheek and says 'bye'... which I thought was 'odd'.. maybe she recognized me with Alba (an ex gf who danced there)... maybe she was trying to make Alba jealous or something... whatever... so as soon as I walk out on the street I have 3 "cops" with pistols in my face and push me up against the wall and go into my pockets and pull out the bag, they look at it for 2 seconds and put it back in my pocket and turn me around and zip-tie my hands in front of me and lead me to a white truck with a topper on back with a couple doors on it (a 'paddy-wagon' truck). I ask them 'what the fuck do you cocksucking guys think youre doing?' and start to cause a scene to get other tourists attention. They say "we go to jail", I figure 'fine.. lets go. the naval base MP's will come through the jail tonight or tomorrow morning and get me out anyways along with the 18yr old military guys who got arrested that weekend.... so I hop in the back of the truck.. they still hadn't really "searched" me, didn't even take my wallet. So we drive for 2 mins and stop... the door pops up and I figure we're at the jail already.... nope.... we're at the ATM... so now they want me to get some cash... it's in peso's I hoped, because I didn't want to withdraw $4000 for these scumbags or whatever it was.. I had to withdraw cash twice, since I guess the first one wasn't enough.. I go to hand this weasel-faced inbred Mexican cop the money and he doesn't want it... instead they put me back in the truck...by this time I dunno what the fuck is going on... maybe we gotta go to another ATM.... well 2 mins later we stop again and they open the door and I get out and we're in some fucken alley... well this must be the jail now... nope... we're at the currency exchanger. lol... so I gotta give them the pesos and get American dollars... and give them the dollars... they just wanted the big bills.. no ones or change. lol.. I think the whole thing came out to like $45... they cut the zip-ties and go in their truck and left me standing there in the alley. I had to get a Taxi Libre back to the pharmacy where my biz partner thought the whole thing was the funniest thing he'd heard all week. dollars to doughnuts the 'cop' had no idea what the Proviron pills were, and probably didn't care.... and i'm pretty sure that stripper bitch set me up... must've felt the bag of pills in my pocket. stupid part was I wasn't even bringing them back myself, i'd just put'em in my pocket by accident. lol

Yet another fairy tale made up by this attention seeking loser !  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 17, 2019, 01:29:44 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/nhgByDnc/776r6kr7.gif)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 17, 2019, 01:47:46 PM
Why argue about whether ESF's stories are true or not? It's not that important. Anyway, there's likely a grain of truth in them which he's probably embellished.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 02:01:02 PM
Why argue about whether ESF's stories are true or not? It's not that important. Anyway, there's likely a grain of truth in them which he's probably embellished.
YEAH...........................OK !!   ::)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 17, 2019, 03:04:00 PM
I bet the lads all gathered in the cell, with blankets and hot ramen noodles, when ES fitness told his stories about crime and whatnot in the prison.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 03:06:35 PM
I bet the lads all gathered in the cell, with blankets and hot ramen noodles, when ES fitness told his stories about crime and whatnot in the prison.
I could picture it now!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 17, 2019, 06:06:20 PM
Around 63 or 64,I don`t remember.

Some I won while doing the Open class,Over-35,and Over 40 classes all in one show.

As years passed,I have placed in the open,over 40 and over 50 in some shows,but have probably competed in around 45-50 seperate contests........I don`t know.

I figured if I`m in shape,why not do the crossover if I felt I could place with younger competitors.

Placed 4th. in my class in my first contest in 1987 and stopped competing in 2011.



Believable - as I’ve got 67 at last count when stopped competing
Mine were from powerlifting & Bodybuilding up to international level.
I’d have a few more if not for Pec/ tricep Damage In accident.
Stopped me competing 15+ yrs back.
Majority of mine sit in boxes in my garage. Ha.


No Doubting esf has over 120,000 or more from his competitive days
🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on August 17, 2019, 06:15:33 PM
Believable - as I’ve got 67 at last count when stopped competing
Mine were from powerlifting & Bodybuilding up to international level.
I’d have a few more if not for Pec/ tricep Damage In accident.
Stopped me competing 15+ yrs back.
Majority of mine sit in boxes in my garage. Ha.


No Doubting esf has over 120,000 or more from his competitive days
🤣😂🤣

Please post pics of said of said boxes with Be There holding a cell phone showing his handle being banned on Getbig with a thumbs up pose.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 17, 2019, 06:29:29 PM
Believable - as I’ve got 67 at last count when stopped competing
Mine were from powerlifting & Bodybuilding up to international level.
I’d have a few more if not for Pec/ tricep Damage In accident.
Stopped me competing 15+ yrs back.
Majority of mine sit in boxes in my garage. Ha.


No Doubting esf has over 120,000 or more from his competitive days
🤣😂🤣
Most of mine other than a few of the more prestigious trophies are collecting dust in my barn.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 17, 2019, 06:43:53 PM
Believable - as I’ve got 67 at last count when stopped competing
Mine were from powerlifting & Bodybuilding up to international level.
I’d have a few more if not for Pec/ tricep Damage In accident.
Stopped me competing 15+ yrs back.
Majority of mine sit in boxes in my garage. Ha.


No Doubting esf has over 120,000 or more from his competitive days
🤣😂🤣

-Always wondered what folks did with their trophies after they won them. Surprisingly, over the years I discovered that the Oscar ends up in some strange and obscure places too. You'd think such a major trophy would always be front and center. Well, they are gold plated tin (used to be bronze) so on today's market someone might steal an Oscar just for the value of the gold...about $630. I once won a trophy in a dance competition at a bar. Mainly because my wife was my dance partner, I immediately stuffed it in a closet when I got home and there it sat until I threw it out many years later.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 17, 2019, 08:54:18 PM
Around 63 or 64,I don`t remember.

Some I won while doing the Open class,Over-35,and Over 40 classes all in one show.

As years passed,I have placed in the open,over 40 and over 50 in some shows,but have probably competed in around 45-50 seperate contests........I don`t know.

I figured if I`m in shape,why not do the crossover if I felt I could place with younger competitors.

Placed 4th. in my class in my first contest in 1987 and stopped competing in 2011.



I’m truly astonished that there were fanny packs in the year 1887.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Twaddle on August 17, 2019, 09:14:57 PM
I’m truly astonished that there were fanny packs in the year 1887.

Solid post, 8/10.   :D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2019, 12:15:32 AM
-Always wondered what folks did with their trophies after they won them. Surprisingly, over the years I discovered that the Oscar ends up in some strange and obscure places too. You'd think such a major trophy would always be front and center. Well, they are gold plated tin (used to be bronze) so on today's market someone might steal an Oscar just for the value of the gold...about $630. I once won a trophy in a dance competition at a bar. Mainly because my wife was my dance partner, I immediately stuffed it in a closet when I got home and there it sat until I threw it out many years later.

I’ve got my 1st Win trophy & my National Champs Winning one’s
Dotted around the house.
I’m pleased & proud of them all Only don’t want that amount in the house
Maybe I should get a Trophy Room  ::) Ha Ha
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2019, 12:19:01 AM
Please post pics of said of said boxes with Be There holding a cell phone showing his handle being banned on Getbig with a thumbs up pose.

If I remember next time he comes down
Knowing Jeff he probably be fine with that.

IIRC he is allowed back - just decide he’d had enough.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 18, 2019, 07:18:33 PM
Juat skimmed over most these comments. Didn't even bother to read illuminate's quoted shit which looked like song lyrics or some shit. Don't give a shit.

All i see is "post proof". Proof of what? Me.recalling certian events? Most if not all the stuff I post is shit ive forgotten about until someone posts something that jogs my memory... And you insecure little snowflakes get all butthurt. It's pathetic you care so much.

If I told you I was in an 8hr standoff with the SWAT team you little insecure punks would cry out "bullshit!", But its easily searchable. Idiots.

And you can't even "prove your point" without twisting the things i say to fit your idea of my life and the idea and naritive you want everybody to think of me.

For.example, you say I claimed to use 120k worth of heroin a month. Bwahahaha..... Show me, quote it, where i say "120k/month". I said 120k worth... Period. Give.or.ta.ke 5-7k (which would mean 113-127k at Max range... Which could include 113-116k, or 114-122k... Christ I'm amazed I'd have to point that out).

Do some simple math. At first I was paying incredibly dumb amounts per gram because I didn't know any.better... aside from the girl (gf of one of my friends/customers/clients... The girl was a crackhead and theif, which is where i got the diluadid tabs that I went to when my script of tramadol and ran out a week before my next dr apt and refill. Dr wrote it for 3tabs per day for 3nwks worth. So i was in withdrawal when I was asked if i knew any buyers for the diluadid tabs she'd stolen from.a cancer patient. I couldn't think of any buyers and didn't even consider buying for myself till the next day and realized they'd take me out of withdrawal).. anyways, i was  paying 100/g at first and when she.realized that was no problem. Then it goes to 160/g, then 220, then 300/g, and finally 360/g when i was using a gram per day or maybe 1/2g per day... Then after about 3-6minths, i found a new supplier through an old.client I ran into atnthe gas station who i knew and "fired" because she's show up to.bootcamp drunk and/or high on meth, so i asked her if she had a hookup for H... And I went from paying 360/g to paying 120/3g and using 3g/day, then to 6g/day paying 200/6g or 280/6g for better product. So do some.math.. 200/day x30days = 6k-8400/month... And multiply 8400 xthe.number of months I used, including relapses. Because your tolerance doesn't go.back to.zero after a significant amt of time not using. Like with my hip.surgeries. 2mg diluadid every 4-6hrs would've been fine.for most ppl, but it didn't do shit for me. Hence having to meet with pain management 3x so they'd give the "ok" to increase the pain meds. They were afraid I'd stop breathing with the amounts on and had to tell them I used to use 6,000mg/day of diacetylmorphine. So I end up getting 2-3 80mg oxycodone CR/day, plus 2mg diluadid every other hour, and 30mg oxycodone IR on the hours i didn't get diluadid... That's 24mg/day diluadid, and 520-600mg/day of oxycodone. I'd get my shot of diluadid and get up and walk, even post videos on youtube, and when it's wear off, about 45mins later, id head back to my room and sit (actually stand. I'd rarely sit.. i had a gaping open wound I my hip you could fit a Nerf football inside) and wait and eat.

So figure how many months total i used. 18, 20, 24? Multiply that by how much i spent each month. And you don't think 120k is possible? Why? Because YOU can't relate? You can't relate to having an extra 120k overnthe course of a couple yrs to spent? Thats YOUR problem. Not mine. Wes hung out with junkies (non-junkies don't hang out with junkies) who had to steal to pay for drugs (you are who you hang out with. I still don't know any other heroin users, aside from people i met in rehab, but they're not in my phone and I have no heroin users, or.dealers for that matter, in my phone.)... So it's unlikely Wes could relate to spending 120k. What's more sad? Me wasting a condo payment on heroin? Or Wes, a grown adult not being able.to. conceive someone having disposable income?

... Where do you think that money came.from? Do you know the biz I'm in? How many income streams i have? How many I've had over the years?

Idiots. A bottle of test costs roughly 1.87/bottle tomproduce & it retails for 40-50ea. Not to mention the margin on methyltrienolone. Holy Christ you people are idiots. 100bottles of test and 83 bottles of methyltrienolone (just counting 2products fir fucks sake)  costs roughly 300 and you gross nearly 9k. And that's just 1 income stream. Factor in 2 legit paychecks, plus all the cash training money, and all the cash diet money, and all the cash online diet/training money. For fucks sake. I've never had to sell anything to pay for drugs like Wes. I still have my big TV (TV's actually). Still have my leather sofas. Silverware... Pots n pans .whatever else Wes and his junkie buddies had to sell for their drugs. Never had to steal for drugs the way Wes and his junkie buddies had to.

So of course he can't relate, so he can't fathom it and calls it lies. Hahahaha

Shit, before heroin, I was spending 600+/month on sushi and I thought that was a lot... 7200/year. That was a down payment on a decent E-Class Benz or an Escalade. Wouldn't be surprised if Wes called my sushi bill lies as well. (That's 60bucks 10x a month btw between me and my ex. Probably can't relate to that either)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 18, 2019, 07:35:34 PM
Anytime he starts off with a wall of text in a posting, you know it's a lie.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on August 18, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
If I remember next time he comes down
Knowing Jeff he probably be fine with that.

IIRC he is allowed back - just decide he’d had enough.

Lol Jeff kept this place interesting.

Let him know the board hopes he is doing well.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 18, 2019, 07:51:27 PM
was he selling bunk gear? Was he taking bunk gear? Judging by his physique its either bunk or he's horribly non-responsive
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 18, 2019, 08:21:08 PM
Where do I think "your" 120K came from?

It came from nofuckingwhere because there is no way you bought that much or did that much no matter how hard you try to backtrack and change the original anount.

It just so happens,the junkies I`m talking about were two of my cousins and a group of our friends who hung out with them doing dope.

Saw them on the daily,went out and copped with them,saw outrageous amounts of money spent on the garbage.........I could go on and on about it but you could never relate because you are lying again per usual.

Attempting to change the story and turn it into one of your kazillion operations or made up injuries/illnesses and your sushi bills does not change the fact that you`re full of shit up to your fucking ears.

Fucking guys had every injury and illness in the world,done everything there is to do,had every operation,used every steroid in copius amounts,used every recreational drug in humongous amounts................. ........


fuck outta` here !
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 18, 2019, 08:22:11 PM
was he selling bunk gear? Was he taking bunk gear? Judging by his physique its either bunk or he's horribly non-responsive
All of the above !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 18, 2019, 09:51:14 PM
Where do I think "your" 120K came from?

It came from nofuckingwhere because there is no way you bought that much or did that much no matter how hard you try to backtrack and change the original anount.

It just so happens,the junkies I`m talking about were two of my cousins and a group of our friends who hung out with them doing dope.

Saw them on the daily,went out and copped with them,saw outrageous amounts of money spent on the garbage.........I could go on and on about it but you could never relate because you are lying again per usual.

Attempting to change the story and turn it into one of your kazillion operations or made up injuries/illnesses and your sushi bills does not change the fact that you`re full of shit up to your fucking ears.

Fucking guys had every injury and illness in the world,done everything there is to do,had every operation,used every steroid in copius amounts,used every recreational drug in humongous amounts................. ........


fuck outta` here !

Once.again, you can't conceive it because you can't relate.

You're likely a worker, lifelong employee of.someone.else and can't conceive someone spending or earning more than you. If you can't do something, there's no way in hell someone else can, at least if they did, they wouldn't be posting here with insecure idiots like you.

Tell me more about the injuries I've had.

Tell me I didnt have hip surgery.

Tell me I didn't break my leg and tear my ACL.

Tell me.i havent had pancreatitis.

Tell.me.more about myself.

Don't forget to use your kinds little GED education "point blank period" catch phrases. Use it. A.few times, just so we know it's true.

I can't relate to people like you, expecting someone on an internet forum to owe you an explanation. lol... What a pathetic joke you insecure dolts are.

Tell me.more about the "other recreational drugs I've used in humongous amounts".

I don't use meth or Coke. Haven't used ecstacy since 01 or 02?(& That's just twice in 02, and most was from June 2000 till December 2000, on Thurs & Saturday nights. With i believe once in 2001,, btw)

What else is there? Mushrooms? Acid? Haven't don't either. Benzos? I used to have little xanax bars or footballs  in my cars cupholders, and at home in the bedroom and bathrooms and would go weeks without taking one. Sold'em in prison, along with oxy 20s and norco's and didn't take any, aside from 1mg Klonopin twice a day at first during the first year, after that I just sold'em. I'd rather buy a bag of coffee or jar of peanut butter, or Mt. Dew...

 And even now I'll take at most 1mg Klonopin twice a day, but I haven't taken any for about 2wks now. Cant recall the last time I took one.

What else is there? Crack? Bwahahaha for fucks sake, see what i mean? You're projecting yourself into me. Thats YOUR experience. YOU were the meth, crack, and coke junkie, so you assume I must have been as well. LOL typical of meth and crack junkies logic. Junkies like you have brains that never recover. You've gotta be frustrating as  to be around. Likely have a Bunch of twitchy movements and argue with everybody.

So what other recreational drugs did or do I take in humongous amounts? Tell me more About myself.

Don't forget to spend an hour searching my posts to find something to quote.

I couldn't fathom bothering to search through yours or anybody else's and spending so much time doing so. (& You say I'm "not in your head" bwahahaha). Your brain is ruined and you don't realize it hahaha.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 18, 2019, 09:52:09 PM
was he selling bunk gear? Was he taking bunk gear? Judging by his physique its either bunk or he's horribly non-responsive

Because you're such an expert on anabolics eh? Hahaha
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2019, 11:21:19 PM
Juat skimmed over most these comments. Didn't even bother to read illuminate's quoted shit which looked like song lyrics or some shit. Don't give a shit.

All i see is "post proof". Proof of what? Me.recalling certian events? Most if not all the stuff I post is shit ive forgotten about until someone posts something that jogs my memory... And you insecure little snowflakes get all butthurt. It's pathetic you care so much.

If I told you I was in an 8hr standoff with the SWAT team you little insecure punks would cry out "bullshit!", But its easily searchable. Idiots.

And you can't even "prove your point" without twisting the things i say to fit your idea of my life and the idea and naritive you want everybody to think of me.

For.example, you say I claimed to use 120k worth of heroin a month. Bwahahaha..... Show me, quote it, where i say "120k/month". I said 120k worth... Period. Give.or.ta.ke 5-7k (which would mean 113-127k at Max range... Which could include 113-116k, or 114-122k... Christ I'm amazed I'd have to point that out).

Do some simple math. At first I was paying incredibly dumb amounts per gram because I didn't know any.better... aside from the girl (gf of one of my friends/customers/clients... The girl was a crackhead and theif, which is where i got the diluadid tabs that I went to when my script of tramadol and ran out a week before my next dr apt and refill. Dr wrote it for 3tabs per day for 3nwks worth. So i was in withdrawal when I was asked if i knew any buyers for the diluadid tabs she'd stolen from.a cancer patient. I couldn't think of any buyers and didn't even consider buying for myself till the next day and realized they'd take me out of withdrawal).. anyways, i was  paying 100/g at first and when she.realized that was no problem. Then it goes to 160/g, then 220, then 300/g, and finally 360/g when i was using a gram per day or maybe 1/2g per day... Then after about 3-6minths, i found a new supplier through an old.client I ran into atnthe gas station who i knew and "fired" because she's show up to.bootcamp drunk and/or high on meth, so i asked her if she had a hookup for H... And I went from paying 360/g to paying 120/3g and using 3g/day, then to 6g/day paying 200/6g or 280/6g for better product. So do some.math.. 200/day x30days = 6k-8400/month... And multiply 8400 xthe.number of months I used, including relapses. Because your tolerance doesn't go.back to.zero after a significant amt of time not using. Like with my hip.surgeries. 2mg diluadid every 4-6hrs would've been fine.for most ppl, but it didn't do shit for me. Hence having to meet with pain management 3x so they'd give the "ok" to increase the pain meds. They were afraid I'd stop breathing with the amounts on and had to tell them I used to use 6,000mg/day of diacetylmorphine. So I end up getting 2-3 80mg oxycodone CR/day, plus 2mg diluadid every other hour, and 30mg oxycodone IR on the hours i didn't get diluadid... That's 24mg/day diluadid, and 520-600mg/day of oxycodone. I'd get my shot of diluadid and get up and walk, even post videos on youtube, and when it's wear off, about 45mins later, id head back to my room and sit (actually stand. I'd rarely sit.. i had a gaping open wound I my hip you could fit a Nerf football inside) and wait and eat.

So figure how many months total i used. 18, 20, 24? Multiply that by how much i spent each month. And you don't think 120k is possible? Why? Because YOU can't relate? You can't relate to having an extra 120k overnthe course of a couple yrs to spent? Thats YOUR problem. Not mine. Wes hung out with junkies (non-junkies don't hang out with junkies) who had to steal to pay for drugs (you are who you hang out with. I still don't know any other heroin users, aside from people i met in rehab, but they're not in my phone and I have no heroin users, or.dealers for that matter, in my phone.)... So it's unlikely Wes could relate to spending 120k. What's more sad? Me wasting a condo payment on heroin? Or Wes, a grown adult not being able.to. conceive someone having disposable income?

... Where do you think that money came.from? Do you know the biz I'm in? How many income streams i have? How many I've had over the years?

Idiots. A bottle of test costs roughly 1.87/bottle tomproduce & it retails for 40-50ea. Not to mention the margin on methyltrienolone. Holy Christ you people are idiots. 100bottles of test and 83 bottles of methyltrienolone (just counting 2products fir fucks sake)  costs roughly 300 and you gross nearly 9k. And that's just 1 income stream. Factor in 2 legit paychecks, plus all the cash training money, and all the cash diet money, and all the cash online diet/training money. For fucks sake. I've never had to sell anything to pay for drugs like Wes. I still have my big TV (TV's actually). Still have my leather sofas. Silverware... Pots n pans .whatever else Wes and his junkie buddies had to sell for their drugs. Never had to steal for drugs the way Wes and his junkie buddies had to.

So of course he can't relate, so he can't fathom it and calls it lies. Hahahaha

Shit, before heroin, I was spending 600+/month on sushi and I thought that was a lot... 7200/year. That was a down payment on a decent E-Class Benz or an Escalade. Wouldn't be surprised if Wes called my sushi bill lies as well. (That's 60bucks 10x a month btw between me and my ex. Probably can't relate to that either)

All I see is a wall of typed word diarrhoea
Didn’t read far to long.

Dreamer nothing but a Dreamer.
Carry on Boy.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 19, 2019, 11:34:57 AM
Because you're such an expert on anabolics eh? Hahaha

Nope, no nothing about the stuff..lol ::)

I know that mine works and your's doesn't..lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 19, 2019, 11:48:14 AM
Once.again, you can't conceive it because you can't relate.

You're likely a worker, lifelong employee of.someone.else and can't conceive someone spending or earning more than you. If you can't do something, there's no way in hell someone else can, at least if they did, they wouldn't be posting here with insecure idiots like you.

Tell me more about the injuries I've had.

Tell me I didnt have hip surgery.

Tell me I didn't break my leg and tear my ACL.

Tell me.i havent had pancreatitis.

Tell.me.more about myself.

Don't forget to use your kinds little GED education "point blank period" catch phrases. Use it. A.few times, just so we know it's true.

I can't relate to people like you, expecting someone on an internet forum to owe you an explanation. lol... What a pathetic joke you insecure dolts are.

Tell me.more about the "other recreational drugs I've used in humongous amounts".

I don't use meth or Coke. Haven't used ecstacy since 01 or 02?(& That's just twice in 02, and most was from June 2000 till December 2000, on Thurs & Saturday nights. With i believe once in 2001,, btw)

What else is there? Mushrooms? Acid? Haven't don't either. Benzos? I used to have little xanax bars or footballs  in my cars cupholders, and at home in the bedroom and bathrooms and would go weeks without taking one. Sold'em in prison, along with oxy 20s and norco's and didn't take any, aside from 1mg Klonopin twice a day at first during the first year, after that I just sold'em. I'd rather buy a bag of coffee or jar of peanut butter, or Mt. Dew...

 And even now I'll take at most 1mg Klonopin twice a day, but I haven't taken any for about 2wks now. Cant recall the last time I took one.

What else is there? Crack? Bwahahaha for fucks sake, see what i mean? You're projecting yourself into me. Thats YOUR experience. YOU were the meth, crack, and coke junkie, so you assume I must have been as well. LOL typical of meth and crack junkies logic. Junkies like you have brains that never recover. You've gotta be frustrating as  to be around. Likely have a Bunch of twitchy movements and argue with everybody.

So what other recreational drugs did or do I take in humongous amounts? Tell me more About myself.

Don't forget to spend an hour searching my posts to find something to quote.

I couldn't fathom bothering to search through yours or anybody else's and spending so much time doing so. (& You say I'm "not in your head" bwahahaha). Your brain is ruined and you don't realize it hahaha.
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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 19, 2019, 12:25:30 PM
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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 19, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Nothing more tedious than having a try hard go on and on...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 20, 2019, 05:14:05 PM
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Typical response when you can't refute anything I said.

Tell me the injuries you claim I didn't have.

Tell me the drugs you claim I use huge amounts of.

You won't because you can't, so all you can do is post a pic (that likely took you 30mins of searching to find just the right one).

How much time do take out of your day searching through my posts hoping to find something to copy & paste? Typical of meth junkies.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ChristopherA on August 20, 2019, 05:21:07 PM
120K on drugs is not rediculous at all for an addict
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 20, 2019, 05:49:40 PM
120K on drugs is not rediculous at all for an addict

I agree and will go one step further and say that it's not ridiculous either.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 20, 2019, 06:34:32 PM
120K on drugs is not rediculous at all for an addict
I agree and will go one step further and say that it's not ridiculous either.
He`d be long dead trust me.

We`re talking heroin not weed.................... ..shit is deadly.

Do you guys realize how much heroin 120K will buy and if he did it,he`d be so strung out that he couldn`t function,unless he got extremely lucky.

Don`t believe this idiot,he`s all lies.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 20, 2019, 06:42:26 PM
The point is,that 120K worth of heroin is a veritable humongous amount of heroin for 1 person to use,even in 2 lifetimes.

He`d be long dead or incapacitated for life right now if he used all that over any amount of time.

If he lived,he`d be a complete mess of a person and would be unable or not even remotely interested in posting on getbig or doing almost anything at all.

Just for the record,most of you guys have known me for years from being on here and you must know that I would never laugh at anyones death like this idiot thinks I`m doing.

I just don`t believe his ridiculous story and you shouldn`t either unless of course you believe in fairy tales.

So, the singer from Blur said he spent almost a 1 million in coke, but ESF couldn't 120k, based on what, your hatred towards the guy?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 20, 2019, 06:43:54 PM
So, the singer from Blur said he spent almost a 1 million in coke, but ESF couldn't 120k, based on what, your hatred towards the guy?
I don`t hate the phony fuck at all,and coke is far different from heroin and costs far less.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 20, 2019, 06:45:27 PM
I don`t hate the phony fuck at all,and coke is far different from heroin and costs far less.

Not really, go to downtown area in any major city in America. Its 30- 40 dope and 25-30 for coke. Its not a lot more, for sure
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 20, 2019, 06:56:03 PM
Not really, go to downtown area in any major city in America. Its 30- 40 dope and 25-30 for coke. Its not a lot more, for sure
Yeah OK,ever shoot,snort,or smoke any heroin..........HAVE YOU EVER BOUGHT ANY HEROIN ?

The potency of heroin is far stronger and far more deadly.

You have no clue.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 20, 2019, 07:01:41 PM
Yeah OK,ever shoot,snort,or smoke any heroin..........HAVE YOU EVER BOUGHT ANY HEROIN ?

The potency of heroin is far stronger and far more deadly.

You have no clue.

Thats the problem, Wes, you dont believe people. Phil Anselmo used to spend 750- 1k a day on Heroin.

Theres a video on YouTube that he gives all the details, plus the singer from Pentagram, a band that never really took off, and he was spending 600 dollars a day. Now, he is 65 and a zombie, but he is alive to tell.

I dont know why you wont believe his story...   No, I never tried. I dont believe in coke or heroin. To me, the only drug out there aside from Ayahuasca, is LSD. Others are nonsense..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 20, 2019, 07:08:37 PM
Joe,you`re talking rock stars who you say are burnt out from heroin use.

How come ESF looks so healthy?

Ask him what his top bodyweight was during his heroin years and what his appetite was like.

I bet he would still say he was benching 800 pounds with a needle in his arm,and eating 6 large meals a day with snacks and shakes.   ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 20, 2019, 07:11:41 PM
Joe,you`re talking rock stars who you say are burnt out from heroin use.

How come ESF looks so healthy?

Ask him what his top bodyweight was during his heroin years and what his appetite was like.

I bet he would still say he was benching 800 pounds with a needle in his arm,and eating 6 large meals a day with snacks and shakes.   ;D



Technically, its possible  LOL
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 20, 2019, 07:39:17 PM
43 minutes......I`ll pass.  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: pkaz on August 20, 2019, 08:38:32 PM
One thing I can say about ESF, in my opinion.. He post pictures and he discusses his life. All the good and bad. But mostly about the bad. So, listen or don't listen, but it seems his message is clear. Live a great life!!!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 20, 2019, 09:48:03 PM
He`d be long dead trust me.

We`re talking heroin not weed.................... ..shit is deadly.

Do you guys realize how much heroin 120K will buy and if he did it,he`d be so strung out that he couldn`t function,unless he got extremely lucky.

Don`t believe this idiot,he`s all lies.

Joe,you`re talking rock stars who you say are burnt out from heroin use.

How come ESF looks so healthy?

Ask him what his top bodyweight was during his heroin years and what his appetite was like.

I bet he would still say he was benching 800 pounds with a needle in his arm,and eating 6 large meals a day with snacks and shakes.   ;D

How much heroin does $120k buy? How would you even know? lol you've supposedly been clean for 6 decades and you were a meth and coke junkie.

I spelled it out for your dumbass.

At first I was buying from a lady who charged me more & more once she realized 100/g wasn't a problem..not was 200.. and when it got to 360/g I got a new supplier

...wait, did i just CATCH you CONTRADICTING yourself? In one breath you say 120 k would buy a ton of heroin, and then in the next you say how potent it was.

So what is it? I couldn't afford it? Or I wouldn't survive it?

You realize heroin is just diacetylmorphine, right? You realize plenty of people function JUST FINE on opiates, right?

On one hand you say why do I look so healthy, then the other you say I'm falling apart?

Make up your mind. Fucking tweakers.

When I went from buying 1g/day for $50, to buying 3g for $120, i thought that 3g was gonna last 3days & I'd save $50 or so, but then I ended up using all 3g in 1 day.

Then when I went to buying 6g, i thought that was gonna last me 2-3days, instead it lasted 1 day. So that's $200-280/day.

You know how to use a calculator? Do some SIMPLE math.

And my weight, or max weight while using? Max was 230's. Then eventually down to 217-220's. I was 215 by the time I went to rehab... That's after months, about a year of training clients 5-530am-7pm, then running the gym ALONE till midnight. Rushing home to sleep before 130/2am to get ready for the next day.

And appetite? Opiates make me hungry. I know you said and dissected the videos on YouTube I made during my hip surgery and you saw all the fucking food I put down three times a day, all the while getting boatloads legitimate clean opiates 24/7 500-600mgs oxycodone and 24mg diluadid every day.... So why would my appetite be My different on heroin? Why did hundreds of bodybuilders use Nubain in the 90's???

God you're fucking clueless. Talking about things you know nothing about. OBVIOUSLY know nothing about.

Keep embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 20, 2019, 09:54:16 PM
What an idiot!!

I have a lot more to say about this but I`m busy doing a shitload of meth at the moment.  ;D

How long did it take you to do the 120K worth of heroin?

I laughed when I typed that question because it`s just fucking absurd.  LOL  ;D

Most of your above post is nonsensical double talk btw in an attempt to cause confusion, and to take away from the fact that you`re full of shit, but most people here don`t know about heroin so they wouldn`t know nonsense from reality when it comes to this subject.

I`m not one of them.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 20, 2019, 10:47:55 PM
What an idiot!!

I have a lot more to say about this but I`m busy doing a shitload of meth at the moment.  ;D

How long did it take you to do the 120K worth of heroin?

I laughed when I typed that question because it`s just fucking absurd.  LOL  ;D

Most of your above post is nonsensical double talk btw in an attempt to cause confusion, and to take away from the fact that you`re full of shit, but most people here don`t know about heroin so they wouldn`t know nonsense from reality when it comes to this subject.

I`m not one of them.


Correct on the fact I know little to nothing about heroin & it useage.
Agree with you about the nonsensical Double talk & Verbal diarrhoea
That is vertualy never ending spewing from him.

A sad Delusional & Pathetic Specimen of a man.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 20, 2019, 10:57:05 PM
Another of his many claims is that he was a race car driver............if so,there should be some evidence of it on the web.

I`ll wait.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 12:12:11 AM
Another of his many claims is that he was a race car driver............if so,there should be some evidence of it on the web.

I`ll wait.

Eh, theres a photo of me leading the pack Down the straight on my IG page... A photo of THE FRONT PAGE of the San Diego Union Tribune's Sunday edition, the very next day. Hahahaha.

Keep embarrassing yourself.

(That was El Cajon Motor Speedway in i believe '97. SCCA EVTC class in a Porsche 944. Took home 3 gold's and a bronze for the team that weekend. 15yrs old btw.)

Fuck you're an idiot. Why do you waste so much of your life focusing on another man? Goddman, that meth-brain of yours is just fucking ruined.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2019, 12:25:54 AM
Help me to understand why whether the stories ESF posts are factual or not is worth 9 pages of contentious discussion. As I previously stated, he is a colorful guy. Believe what he says about himself or not. It's no skin off your back if it's all a fabrication.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 03:33:56 AM
Help me to understand why whether the stories ESF posts are factual or not is worth 9 pages of contentious discussion. As I previously stated, he is a colorful guy. Believe what he says about himself or not. It's no skin off your back if it's all a fabrication.

It's his insecure meth-brain and inability to rellate to anything I say. His meth-junkie logic is that if HE couldn't do something, there's no way I could have, even when it's spelled out for him.

Look above, he says there's "no proof I was a race car driver" yet there's photos of me leading the pack down a straightaway at El Cajon Motor Speedway in 97. Hell I've got the newspaper around here still. Front page of the Sunday paper, full color, in a Porsche 944 with sunburst paint (yellow, orange, red, maroon) covered in sponsor stickers.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: falco on August 21, 2019, 03:54:36 AM
Here is proof:

(https://photos.stuttcars.info/upload/2016/10/11/1986-nelson-ledges-24h-gt-winner-copyright-mark-windecker-downloaded-from-stuttcars_com.jpg)

I just googled racecar 944 and Eric just popped up everywhere.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on August 21, 2019, 05:35:16 AM
Help me to understand why whether the stories ESF posts are factual or not is worth 9 pages of contentious discussion. As I previously stated, he is a colorful guy. Believe what he says about himself or not. It's no skin off your back if it's all a fabrication.

X2

Agreed.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 21, 2019, 09:45:31 AM
What I don't get is why brag about shit like this?  If I had been to prison, I sure as shit wouldn't be making it out to be some kind achievement on the internet.  If I had been such a wasteful addict on drugs, I sure as shit wouldn't be bragging about it.  If I had used mega doses of roids and only looked like a step up from a dad bod, I sure as shit wouldn't be acting like I knew alot about the juice.  And this was the same guy talking about how he put local high school football kids on insulin? 
Obviously, going back to prison is a future goal for him since he openly sells drugs on IG.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 21, 2019, 10:36:12 AM
What I don't get is why brag about shit like this?  If I had been to prison, I sure as shit wouldn't be making it out to be some kind achievement on the internet.  If I had been such a wasteful addict on drugs, I sure as shit wouldn't be bragging about it.  If I had used mega doses of roids and only looked like a step up from a dad bod, I sure as shit wouldn't be acting like I knew alot about the juice.  And this was the same guy talking about how he put local high school football kids on insulin?  
Obviously, going back to prison is a future goal for him since he openly sells drugs on IG.



It all boils down to that people are different.

Some people are more open, and some are downright exhibitionistic.



Not every woman is like Miley Cyrus for example, just like not every man is like Rowan Atkinson or Column Von Mongrel.

A Keanu-personality would prefer the private life to be just that, private, while someone like Platinum Mike Perry would post his wedding on Instagram etc.


Different people, driven by different things.

Some people would prefer to be a Tiger.

And some, like G_Thang, are just G.
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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on August 21, 2019, 12:11:01 PM
It's his insecure meth-brain and inability to rellate to anything I say. His meth-junkie logic is that if HE couldn't do something, there's no way I could have, even when it's spelled out for him.

Look above, he says there's "no proof I was a race car driver" yet there's photos of me leading the pack down a straightaway at El Cajon Motor Speedway in 97. Hell I've got the newspaper around here still. Front page of the Sunday paper, full color, in a Porsche 944 with sunburst paint (yellow, orange, red, maroon) covered in sponsor stickers.
I didn`t say there was no proof,I said I`ll wait to see it.

Always twisting things to suit yourself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on August 21, 2019, 01:23:16 PM
What I don't get is why brag about shit like this?  If I had been to prison, I sure as shit wouldn't be making it out to be some kind achievement on the internet.  If I had been such a wasteful addict on drugs, I sure as shit wouldn't be bragging about it.  If I had used mega doses of roids and only looked like a step up from a dad bod, I sure as shit wouldn't be acting like I knew alot about the juice.  And this was the same guy talking about how he put local high school football kids on insulin? 
Obviously, going back to prison is a future goal for him since he openly sells drugs on IG.



Because
1, He Believes it’s impressive
2, He doesn’t have any other type of achievements
3, He’s got very low moral fibre - & I missed the bit about
Insulin & high school kids
4, He’s a legend in his own Mind
5, He’s just not to Bright
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 21, 2019, 02:07:54 PM
What I don't get is why brag about shit like this?  If I had been to prison, I sure as shit wouldn't be making it out to be some kind achievement on the internet.  If I had been such a wasteful addict on drugs, I sure as shit wouldn't be bragging about it.  If I had used mega doses of roids and only looked like a step up from a dad bod, I sure as shit wouldn't be acting like I knew alot about the juice.  And this was the same guy talking about how he put local high school football kids on insulin? 
Obviously, going back to prison is a future goal for him since he openly sells drugs on IG.



I would buy Test from ESF. He wouldn't sell bad gear to a fellow Get Bigger :)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 21, 2019, 02:28:15 PM
I would buy Test from ESF. He wouldn't sell bad gear to a fellow Get Bigger :)


It might even turn you republican if it's legit.  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 02:40:51 PM

It might even turn you republican if it's legit.  ;D

I would hope so
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 21, 2019, 03:41:36 PM

It might even turn you republican if it's legit.  ;D

LOL Looks like nobody at Golds Venice is taking Test, then
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 21, 2019, 03:42:57 PM
I would hope so

Hopefully, you'll see the light someday.  Republican politics aside, I'm still glad you are back.  
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 21, 2019, 03:47:42 PM
Hopefully, you'll see the light someday.  Republican politics aside, I'm still glad you are back.  

Talking about Politics, looks like Mr Trump is mad at Fox News. Even them reported he is behind Old Joe LOL
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 21, 2019, 03:52:45 PM
Talking about Politics, looks like Mr Trump is mad at Fox News. Even them reported he is behind Old Joe LOL

If he loses in 2020, the following years are going to be like nothing this country has ever seen.  I think he will hit the "campaign" trail and really take things to an even darker place. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 21, 2019, 03:58:30 PM
If he loses in 2020, the following years are going to be like nothing this country has ever seen.  I think he will hit the "campaign" trail and really take things to an even darker place. 

He is busy now trying to buy Greenland.  LOL   The guy is getting worst by the day :(
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 04:29:36 PM
What I don't get is why brag about shit like this?  If I had been to prison, I sure as shit wouldn't be making it out to be some kind achievement on the internet.  If I had been such a wasteful addict on drugs, I sure as shit wouldn't be bragging about it.  If I had used mega doses of roids and only looked like a step up from a dad bod, I sure as shit wouldn't be acting like I knew alot about the juice.  And this was the same guy talking about how he put local high school football kids on insulin? 
Obviously, going back to prison is a future goal for him since he openly sells drugs on IG.



Who said I'm "bragging" about anything? How you perceive me writing out an experience I've had or.something I've been through isn't my problem.

Sure, I took big doses of gear, and uneducated people like Coach believe taking big doses is all that's needed to weigh 300lbs. You would think that guy with genetics as shity as his wood understand that, but I guess not. I was "on" for years straight. Never took a break because I didn't care too. I also worked from early morning till midnight and never had a big appetite and how do you people expect anabolics to build muscle out of 100g protein or less a day? I ate like a normal person. Cheeseburgers and pizza and such. Idiots don't take anything other than steroids into account when it comes to putting on muscle.

And "dad bod"? Bwahahaha. There's an IG full of pics. Show me "dad bod".
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
Who said I'm "bragging" about anything? How you perceive me writing out an experience I've had or.something I've been through isn't my problem.

Sure, I took big doses of gear, and uneducated people like Coach believe taking big doses is all that's needed to weigh 300lbs. You would think that guy with genetics as shity as his wood understand that, but I guess not. I was "on" for years straight. Never took a break because I didn't care too. I also worked from early morning till midnight and never had a big appetite and how do you people expect anabolics to build muscle out of 100g protein or less a day? I ate like a normal person. Cheeseburgers and pizza and such. Idiots don't take anything other than steroids into account when it comes to putting on muscle.

And "dad bod"? Bwahahaha. There's an IG full of pics. Show me "dad bod".

What's the definition of a 'dad bod" anyway? Lot's of men, including bodybuilders and fitness competitors are dads. I'm a great-grandfather and I am in better physical condition than some teenagers.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 04:42:54 PM
Hopefully, you'll see the light someday.  Republican politics aside, I'm still glad you are back.  

I'm a businessman. Don't care about mostbthe social shit associated with republicans or conservatives. I just believe in small govt and no handouts
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 21, 2019, 04:44:43 PM
I'm a businessman. Don't care about mostbthe social shit associated with republicans or conservatives. I just believe in small govt and no handouts

That's fair, but recent republican track records aren't very fiscally conservative AT ALL.  Corporate handouts/welfare in spades.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 06:02:00 PM
That's fair, but recent republican track records aren't very fiscally conservative AT ALL.  Corporate handouts/welfare in spades.

That's corporate. I hate taxes and ppl who want to punish success and ppl who take risks. Capital gains taxes and estate taxes are extortion and theft. When it's the makers vs the takers, ill side with the makers Everytime. McDonald's employees who get my orders wrong 70% of the time do not deserve the same or more money than the waitress at PF Chang's who gets my order correct 100% of the time.

AOC makes me sick to my stomach. Her and that oblivious girl Oman actually getting into office is a disgrace. I'm not so much of a republican as I am a capitalist, and these dumb girls who believe "illegal immigration isn't a crime" are socialists who don't understand where money comes from and the work it takes to aquire it. These idiots have no clue how to form a Corporation or even form a business plan. I doubt they can pass a middle school class on Excel spreadsheets.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 06:03:33 PM
Here is proof:

(https://photos.stuttcars.info/upload/2016/10/11/1986-nelson-ledges-24h-gt-winner-copyright-mark-windecker-downloaded-from-stuttcars_com.jpg)

I just googled racecar 944 and Eric just popped up everywhere.

Close. We did have a white-to-red paint scheme before going to the yellow to (dark) red, but never raced with the hood off.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 21, 2019, 07:27:43 PM
Who said I'm "bragging" about anything? How you perceive me writing out an experience I've had or.something I've been through isn't my problem.

Sure, I took big doses of gear, and uneducated people like Coach believe taking big doses is all that's needed to weigh 300lbs. You would think that guy with genetics as shity as his wood understand that, but I guess not. I was "on" for years straight. Never took a break because I didn't care too. I also worked from early morning till midnight and never had a big appetite and how do you people expect anabolics to build muscle out of 100g protein or less a day? I ate like a normal person. Cheeseburgers and pizza and such. Idiots don't take anything other than steroids into account when it comes to putting on muscle.

And "dad bod"? Bwahahaha. There's an IG full of pics. Show me "dad bod".

“Uneducated”? 😂😂😂

Show me anywhere where I said anything about taking big doses. I’m the one that rails against big doses. Also. The SHITTY generics part. Throw up your best pic from anytime in your life and I’ll throw one up from a week or two ago and let getbig judge. Lol

It has been a long time since you’ve been on...lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 21, 2019, 07:40:31 PM
That's corporate. I hate taxes and ppl who want to punish success and ppl who take risks. Capital gains taxes and estate taxes are extortion and theft. When it's the makers vs the takers, ill side with the makers Everytime. McDonald's employees who get my orders wrong 70% of the time do not deserve the same or more money than the waitress at PF Chang's who gets my order correct 100% of the time.

AOC makes me sick to my stomach. Her and that oblivious girl Oman actually getting into office is a disgrace. I'm not so much of a republican as I am a capitalist, and these dumb girls who believe "illegal immigration isn't a crime" are socialists who don't understand where money comes from and the work it takes to aquire it. These idiots have no clue how to form a Corporation or even form a business plan. I doubt they can pass a middle school class on Excel spreadsheets.

Just saw your IG. You’re like Doug Brolus (google him) on gear.....all abs like a swimmer.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: irishdave on August 21, 2019, 07:42:32 PM
If he loses in 2020, the following years are going to be like nothing this country has ever seen.  I think he will hit the "campaign" trail and really take things to an even darker place. 

It’s going to get darker either way liberal fag
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 21, 2019, 09:24:58 PM
There is at least some proof of ESF's exploits - namely the armed robbery and police standoff that landed him in jail for the first(?) time.

$120,000 isn't an unbelievable amount to spend on heroin, especially over the course of several years.  It's a lot to be sure, but if he was using for 5 years, that's $2000/month.  Definitely within the realm of possibility.

I don't believe he's ever been caught contradicting himself, either.  And that's hard to do when you're telling stories with as much detail as he does, over the course of years.

His response to anabolics are definitely sub-par, and from what I remember, the amount of activity on his instagram was awfully low for someone who claims to move as much gear as he does.

I don't think he's lying but who cares, I'm not envious of his life.  His life sounds stressful and full of misfortune, honestly.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 21, 2019, 09:35:34 PM
If he loses in 2020, the following years are going to be like nothing this country has ever seen.  I think he will hit the "campaign" trail and really take things to an even darker place. 


You can just smell the fear in a post like this. It's weird.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 09:55:38 PM
There is at least some proof of ESF's exploits - namely the armed robbery and police standoff that landed him in jail for the first(?) time.

$120,000 isn't an unbelievable amount to spend on heroin, especially over the course of several years.  It's a lot to be sure, but if he was using for 5 years, that's $2000/month.  Definitely within the realm of possibility.

I don't believe he's ever been caught contradicting himself, either.  And that's hard to do when you're telling stories with as much detail as he does, over the course of years.

His response to anabolics are definitely sub-par, and from what I remember, the amount of activity on his instagram was awfully low for someone who claims to move as much gear as he does.

I don't think he's lying but who cares, I'm not envious of his life.  His life sounds stressful and full of misfortune, honestly.

Used nowhere near 5yrs and spend no less than 3k a month and quickly went to 6-8k/month.

I rarely do anything on IG. Dolts here make it seem as if I have ads up 24-7/365. 98% of what I do is face to face with people I know and have known for a while. Many of them have been customers for over 6-8yrs, and most are people who know previous customers. 
“Uneducated”? 😂😂😂

Show me anywhere where I said anything about taking big doses. I’m the one that rails against big doses. Also. The SHITTY generics part. Throw up your best pic from anytime in your life and I’ll throw one up from a week or two ago and let getbig judge. Lol

It has been a long time since you’ve been on...lol


Says the fatbody who claims my gear is fake.

If I had fake products, i wouldn't keep customers for years. I wouldn't have competitors (bbing, & PL, male & female) using my product year after year.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 21, 2019, 10:06:36 PM
Used nowhere near 5yrs and spend no less than 3k a month and quickly went to 6-8k/month.

I rarely do anything on IG. Dolts here make it seem as if I have ads up 24-7/365. 98% of what I do is face to face with people I know and have known for a while. Many of them have been customers for over 6-8yrs, and most are people who know previous customers. 
Says the fatbody who claims my gear is fake.

If I had fake products, i wouldn't keep customers for years. I wouldn't have competitors (bbing, & PL, male & female) using my product year after year.

Didn’t say you had fake gear, I asked if it was fake. Fat? Lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: falco on August 22, 2019, 01:13:51 AM
If he loses in 2020, the following years are going to be like nothing this country has ever seen.  I think he will hit the "campaign" trail and really take things to an even darker place. 

What dark place are you in?
Facts please.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on August 22, 2019, 06:56:22 PM
What dark place are you in?
Facts please.

Fact:  You are functionally retarded.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 22, 2019, 09:30:52 PM
If my gear was bunk, I surely wouldn't still be doing what I do.

If I didn't know what I was talking about when it came to anabolics pharmacology, nutrition, or training, I wouldn't still be doing what I do.

I've been here, on these board since what? 97? 98? ??? ALL these boards. Including those that have come and gone..VariX, 'bolex, Meso, Equinox, UG, 'gade, (mayhem even) etc..... Even after jail, and prison, and jail stints...

And there's yet anobody to show anybody I didn't do what I say. No matter how petty.

Claim I "brag"??? You've gotta be super fucken insecure and just plain dumb if you think losing everything in your life is anything to brag about.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 29, 2019, 09:19:40 PM
Didn’t say you had fake gear, I asked if it was fake. Fat? Lol

I said I tested gear given to me by a friend which was Sciroxx deca. he said he had five bottles and had gone through two or three I forget and had noticed anything and had given me a bottle or two and I shot them I believe just in that one glue I may have for them in both glutes and that's what caused my hip infection. That was the first time and years if not decades that I had used gear that was not my own aside from Primotestin from Mexico.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on August 30, 2019, 02:02:45 AM
I said I tested gear given to me by a friend which was Sciroxx deca. he said he had five bottles and had gone through two or three I forget and had noticed anything and had given me a bottle or two and I shot them I believe just in that one glue I may have for them in both glutes and that's what caused my hip infection. That was the first time and years if not decades that I had used gear that was not my own aside from Primotestin from Mexico.

You will never use gear given by friends anymore right?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 30, 2019, 07:58:57 PM
You will never use gear given by friends anymore right?

Have no need to. My friends use my gear. Dude who i got the Sciroxx deca from had moved away for a short while and was under then impression international shipping was safer than domestic and having me ship to him.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 30, 2019, 08:54:12 PM
Have no need to. My friends use my gear. Dude who i got the Sciroxx deca from had moved away for a short while and was under then impression international shipping was safer than domestic and having me ship to him.

I can’t believe you’re actually trying t sell shit on here knowing everyone knows who you are, your location and IG. Wtf are you thinking?

Maybe it was this kind of stupidity that’s landed you in prison a couple of times 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on August 31, 2019, 06:42:42 AM
I can’t believe you’re actually trying t sell shit on here knowing everyone knows who you are, your location and IG. Wtf are you thinking?

Maybe it was this kind of stupidity that’s landed you in prison a couple of times 🤦‍♂️

Would you use his gear knowing he has nearly lost limbs over the last few years. I know he says it was from the few times he used other people's gear but would you take that chance?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 31, 2019, 04:56:19 PM
I can’t believe you’re actually trying t sell shit on here knowing everyone knows who you are, your location and IG. Wtf are you thinking?

Maybe it was this kind of stupidity that’s landed you in prison a couple of times 🤦‍♂️

Who says I've ever tried to sell gear on here? Have you seen my IG? Do you see any any ads selling gear?

Know about what you're talking about before you talk about about it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 31, 2019, 05:06:30 PM
Would you use his gear knowing he has nearly lost limbs over the last few years. I know he says it was from the few times he used other people's gear but would you take that chance?

"The few times"???

Find the.post, quote it and post it here. Idiot. And what "limbs"? I had an infection in my hip. Was in guy of losing "limbs".

Unless youre.refering to.when I got cellulitis IN MY SHINS. Who the fuck injects IN THEIR SHINS. I got cellulitis from.dragging a.brand new bar up my shins deadlifting with brand new knurling  that tore up my shins. Pulled my pants up over my knees and when I was done, put'em back down and didn't think about it the restnkf the day. Worked till midnight and didn't even shower till the next morning since.indidnt get home till.after 1.

Legs started swelling up after about a week and I blew it off and attributed it to kicking.heavy bag.

Wasn't  till weeks.later when I had a 105.3 fever that I went to urgent Care and Dr said if my fiance wasn't there she'd call.an ambulance nntake me tonthe ER. When I got to the ER my fever was 106.4 that was 2014. The infection.went into my blood (sepsis) and heart (endocarditis) & was on 24-7 IV antibiotics.

So how the fuck is that from gear? Injecting in my fucking shins??? Are you retarded?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 31, 2019, 05:34:01 PM
Who says I've ever tried to sell gear on here? Have you seen my IG? Do you see any any ads selling gear?

Know about what you're talking about before you talk about about it.

"Have no need to. My friends use my gear. Dude who i got the Sciroxx deca from had moved away for a short while and was under then impression international shipping was safer than domestic and having me ship to him."

And yes, I've seen your IG..and the bottle Lantis
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on August 31, 2019, 06:49:13 PM
"The few times"???

Find the.post, quote it and post it here. Idiot. And what "limbs"? I had an infection in my hip. Was in guy of losing "limbs".

Unless youre.refering to.when I got cellulitis IN MY SHINS. Who the fuck injects IN THEIR SHINS. I got cellulitis from.dragging a.brand new bar up my shins deadlifting with brand new knurling  that tore up my shins. Pulled my pants up over my knees and when I was done, put'em back down and didn't think about it the restnkf the day. Worked till midnight and didn't even shower till the next morning since.indidnt get home till.after 1.

Legs started swelling up after about a week and I blew it off and attributed it to kicking.heavy bag.

Wasn't  till weeks.later when I had a 105.3 fever that I went to urgent Care and Dr said if my fiance wasn't there she'd call.an ambulance nntake me tonthe ER. When I got to the ER my fever was 106.4 that was 2014. The infection.went into my blood (sepsis) and heart (endocarditis) & was on 24-7 IV antibiotics.

So how the fuck is that from gear? Injecting in my fucking shins??? Are you retarded?

Damn, you are like a medical encyclopedia. You've had more shit happen to you than anyone else I know. You are lucky you're still among the living.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on August 31, 2019, 08:13:12 PM
"Have no need to. My friends use my gear. Dude who i got the Sciroxx deca from had moved away for a short while and was under then impression international shipping was safer than domestic and having me ship to him."

And yes, I've seen your IG..and the bottle Lantis


A bottle of Lantus??? And you're equating that to me selling gear on Instagram? Hahahahaha reaching for straws
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on August 31, 2019, 09:06:04 PM
I'll tell you what.... ESF is an ex con and an ex addict. Of course there's bound to be a fair amount of bullshit  in anything he says BUT he's never.once tried to hide who he is. I wouldn't call him a liar. Definitely a getbigger though.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on August 31, 2019, 10:12:40 PM
It sounds like the infections could just be from poor hygiene. Not taking a shower after training is not a good idea regardless of what you are doing - but I would ESPECIALLY if you are working.
Don’t freak out - not being a dick. You may be very hygienic for all I know. I’m just hyper-hygienic. I saw staph while in USMC and it cost a buddy a few digits and almost part of an arm. Nasty ass stuff.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 01, 2019, 03:52:54 AM
"The few times"???

Find the.post, quote it and post it here. Idiot. And what "limbs"? I had an infection in my hip. Was in guy of losing "limbs".

Unless youre.refering to.when I got cellulitis IN MY SHINS. Who the fuck injects IN THEIR SHINS. I got cellulitis from.dragging a.brand new bar up my shins deadlifting with brand new knurling  that tore up my shins. Pulled my pants up over my knees and when I was done, put'em back down and didn't think about it the restnkf the day. Worked till midnight and didn't even shower till the next morning since.indidnt get home till.after 1.

Legs started swelling up after about a week and I blew it off and attributed it to kicking.heavy bag.

Wasn't  till weeks.later when I had a 105.3 fever that I went to urgent Care and Dr said if my fiance wasn't there she'd call.an ambulance nntake me tonthe ER. When I got to the ER my fever was 106.4 that was 2014. The infection.went into my blood (sepsis) and heart (endocarditis) & was on 24-7 IV antibiotics.

So how the fuck is that from gear? Injecting in my fucking shins??? Are you retarded?

You have some cheek asking anyone if they are retarded. You manage to nearly kill yourself doing the most harmless of tasks over and over and you ask me if I am retarded. No, I know you don't inject into your shins although I wouldn't put anything past you. You come across as either mentally challenged or incredibly thick.......try not to kill yourself writing a response, I am surprised you haven't somehow electrocuted yourself or got a laptop lead wrapped round your neck. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2019, 08:47:32 AM


Maybe it was this kind of stupidity that’s landed you in prison a couple of times 🤦‍♂️


You think?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 01, 2019, 09:31:52 AM
Damn, you are like a medical encyclopedia. You've had more shit happen to you than anyone else I know. You are lucky you're still among the living.
And you idiots believe him.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2019, 09:45:55 AM
And you idiots believe him.

Not everyone.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 01, 2019, 09:51:35 AM
Not everyone.
Thank God I`m not alone.

ESF is completely full of shit and because he was actually in a shootout with the police of all things,he gets a pass on his other million plus tall tales.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2019, 10:03:01 AM
Thank God I`m not alone.

ESF is completely full of shit and because he was actually in a shootout with the police of all things,he gets a pass on his other million plus tall tales.

If he was in shoot out with cops his ass would still be in prison for the next 20 years. They would beat the shit out of him the second he got pulled into the jail probably before they even booked him. Attempted murder on a cop is no joke
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 01, 2019, 10:39:16 AM
If he was in shoot out with cops his ass would still be in prison for the next 20 years. They would beat the shit out of him the second he got pulled into the jail probably before they even booked him. Attempted murder on a cop is no joke
Joe,don`t forget we are talking about a man who doesn`t take kindly to disrespect. ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 01, 2019, 11:44:29 AM
Good to see ESF posting again, this place is starting to show some life.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2019, 02:11:35 PM
Anyone looking for advice on training, nutrition, roids, or prison would be better off asking other people.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 01, 2019, 02:19:42 PM
And you idiots believe him.

I accept what he says. I neither believe nor disbelieve him. If his comments personally affected me in some way, I might give their validity additional thought, but they don't.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on September 01, 2019, 02:40:49 PM
I accept what he says. I neither believe not disbelieve him. If his comments personally affected me in some way, I might give their validity additional thought, but they don't.

About sums it up.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 01, 2019, 02:50:09 PM
I accept what he says. I neither believe not disbelieve him. If his comments personally affected me in some way, I might give their validity additional thought, but they don't.
FUCK OFF
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 01, 2019, 03:07:53 PM
FUCK OFF

Like I posted....foul mood.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 01, 2019, 08:09:33 PM
Like I posted....foul mood.

You aren’t very well liked around here are you?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 01, 2019, 09:42:50 PM
It sounds like the infections could just be from poor hygiene. Not taking a shower after training is not a good idea regardless of what you are doing - but I would ESPECIALLY if you are working.
Don’t freak out - not being a dick. You may be very hygienic for all I know. I’m just hyper-hygienic. I saw staph while in USMC and it cost a buddy a few digits and almost part of an arm. Nasty ass stuff.

I had my first clients at 5am and was training ppl till 7 with 30min breaks here and there, then managed the gym (on my own . Only one on staff) till midnight. Then I have to go to Walmart cuz it's tge only place open to get groceries or.toilet paper or toothpaste lor whatever.. so I don't get home till after 1-1:30am, by then I'm exhausted so I just decided to.shower In the morning. Not to mention I didn't realize how badly my shins were scrapped, and I was training clients (group) and didn't have time to run to a paper.towel dispenser and clean up my shins, even if I had.noticed how the looked.

... And it's a gym. Gyms are dirty and ppl get staph all the time. Not like I was an exception. Plus I hadn't noticed anything wrong for over a week. Typically I shower twice a day, if not 3 if I have time, since I'm.in the desert where it's 110°+ 4+months out of the year. Combine that with 3-4g test, plus Tren if I was on it, plus all the other stuff. We've had trainers who've stunk so bad I've had to write them up for hygiene complaints, last thing I'd ever want is to have a client smell anything on me other than laundry detergent,. deodorant, and cologne.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 01, 2019, 09:45:42 PM
Anyone looking for advice on training, nutrition, roids, or prison would be better off asking other people.

Has ANYBODY said I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics?

Feel free to ask around. I've been certified foro 19yrs now. Knew more about anabolics by the time I was 17, or even 16, than 99% of the "experts" here.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 02, 2019, 08:21:46 AM
Has ANYBODY said I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics?

Feel free to ask around. I've been certified foro 19yrs now. Knew more about anabolics by the time I was 17, or even 16, than 99% of the "experts" here.

yeah, I said it.

You pics on IG when I saw them always showed you with a little gunt and barely any muscle.  Despite running high levels of juice, you were barely a step up from a dad bod.  So either you don't know how to use juice correctly, didn't have real juice to use in the first place, don't know jack shit about diet or training.... or just have the genetics of a tennis player. 
Maybe you look different now, but back then you looked like a natty after one year of training.

And someone talking about how he put high school football players on insulin really doesn't have a clue - or care - in the first place.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on September 02, 2019, 12:00:00 PM
You aren’t very well liked around here are you?

Maybe I missed a meeting, but exactly who the f**k are you..?   :-*
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 02, 2019, 03:35:03 PM
yeah, I said it.

You pics on IG when I saw them always showed you with a little gunt and barely any muscle.  Despite running high levels of juice, you were barely a step up from a dad bod.  So either you don't know how to use juice correctly, didn't have real juice to use in the first place, don't know jack shit about diet or training.... or just have the genetics of a tennis player. 
Maybe you look different now, but back then you looked like a natty after one year of training.

And someone talking about how he put high school football players on insulin really doesn't have a clue - or care - in the first place.

Youre clueless. Absolutely clueless.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 02, 2019, 03:37:37 PM
You aren’t very well liked around here are you?

I don't know. Why don't you do a survey to find out how liked or disliked I am since you seem so interested in my popularity.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 02, 2019, 03:40:50 PM
Has ANYBODY said I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics?

Feel free to ask around. I've been certified foro 19yrs now. Knew more about anabolics by the time I was 17, or even 16, than 99% of the "experts" here.

As you’ve Asked.
Hmmmm I’m far from convinced you know much at all
And for sure there are Several infinitely more knowledgable than yourself
On these boards & and they don’t Try to Boast about it,
Their knowledge comes through in their posts & replies.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 02, 2019, 09:39:33 PM
Maybe I missed a meeting, but exactly who the f**k are you..?   :-*

Marvin - nice to meet you.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 02, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
I don't know. Why don't you do a survey to find out how liked or disliked I am since you seem so interested in my popularity.

Are you slow? See - that was what’s called rhetorical. It’s when you make a statement in the form of a question.
You must be one weird sissy in real life. Are you depressed? (As explained above - not really a question)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 02, 2019, 10:06:30 PM
Youre clueless. Absolutely clueless.

I'm not the one suggesting teenagers abuse insulin for football games.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 03, 2019, 01:34:08 AM
I'm not the one suggesting teenagers abuse insulin for football games.

Abuse? I think the term you're looking for is "utilize".

Your argument is weak, at best. As you idiots rely on misquoting me to make your case.

I had WRESTLERS use insulin after weigh-ins. (Still train one today who's now a men's physique ifbb pro.) Nobody died. Nobody was hospitalized.... And btw, we won. Championships that is.

You idiots shoot yourself in the foot when you say I said things I didn't in hopes people will believe you and side with you.

Tell me, what's wrong with teenagers using insulin? Explain it to me in detail. Grace us with your knowledge.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Griffith on September 03, 2019, 06:07:41 AM
Abuse? I think the term you're looking for is "utilize".

Your argument is weak, at best. As you idiots rely on misquoting me to make your case.

I had WRESTLERS use insulin after weigh-ins. (Still train one today who's now a men's physique ifbb pro.) Nobody died. Nobody was hospitalized.... And btw, we won. Championships that is.

You idiots shoot yourself in the foot when you say I said things I didn't in hopes people will believe you and side with you.

Tell me, what's wrong with teenagers using insulin? Explain it to me in detail. Grace us with your knowledge.



Could low dose HGH of about 2-4 iu's and resulting increases in IGF-1 still lead to unwanted cell growth?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 03, 2019, 06:18:19 AM
ESFITNESS, M.D., PhD
Full Tenured Professor, Harvard University
Department of Medicine and Biochemistry and Mollecular Biology
Present Director of Department of Pathology
President of the Association of Biochemistry Educators
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: sarcafago on September 03, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
Tell me, what's wrong with teenagers using insulin? Explain it to me in detail. Grace us with your knowledge.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/19100bf4438b3997bb29cdac1a56b1b6/tumblr_px9hs9rI3S1ytsttzo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 03, 2019, 09:43:02 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/19100bf4438b3997bb29cdac1a56b1b6/tumblr_px9hs9rI3S1ytsttzo1_400.jpg)

Who’s the chick in your avatar?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 03, 2019, 10:21:15 AM
ESFITNESS, M.D., PhD
Full Tenured Professor, Harvard University
Department of Medicine and Biochemistry and Mollecular Biology
Present Director of Department of Pathology
President of the Association of Biochemistry Educators


We are blessed to have him.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 03, 2019, 10:26:28 AM
We are blessed to have him.

Only the best post on getbig!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 03, 2019, 11:20:20 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/19100bf4438b3997bb29cdac1a56b1b6/tumblr_px9hs9rI3S1ytsttzo1_400.jpg)

The fact he has to ask why teenagers shouldn't be using insulin proves he's a quack and isn't taken seriously.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on September 03, 2019, 11:22:03 AM
Marvin - nice to meet you.

Fair enough - nice to meet you too



Wes - can we get a "F*CKFACE!!!!111" for this guy..?  (assuming it's not you LOL)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 03, 2019, 11:26:23 AM
You aren’t very well liked around here are you?
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ........................ .FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111 

;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 03, 2019, 11:35:48 AM
Teenagers should not be using test either
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Taffin on September 03, 2019, 11:42:34 AM
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ........................ .FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111 

;D

My man  8)

(https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Bro_624736_1317982.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 03, 2019, 03:46:04 PM
Teenagers should not be using meth either

fixeded.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Atlas pump on September 03, 2019, 03:47:12 PM
Teenagers should not be using test either

Only hot teen - early twenty whores should

They maintain that skinny drug youthful look
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 03, 2019, 07:45:20 PM
Could low dose HGH of about 2-4 iu's and resulting increases in IGF-1 still lead to unwanted cell growth?

You mean cancer?

www.pubmed.com there you go
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 03, 2019, 07:46:34 PM
The fact he has to ask why teenagers shouldn't be using insulin proves he's a quack and isn't taken seriously.

See what I mean?

I asked you to explain in detail WHY they shouldn't use insulin.

You balked, because you're talking out your ass.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 03, 2019, 08:44:13 PM
See what I mean?

I asked you to explain in detail WHY they shouldn't use insulin.

You balked, because you're talking out your ass.

Again, if you can't see why they shouldn't, you shouldn't be suggesting they do use it.   

If I were talking out of my ass, I would be telling stories about partying with the Mexican cartel, opening airplane doors midflight, and getting my brother's fiance pregnant....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 03, 2019, 09:12:05 PM
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ........................ .FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111 

;D

Right on brother. I’ve seen dudes get that for years - just never really had a lot of time to post. Not sure how long I’ll be able to stay steady but I’ll always check the board at least a few times a month. Been around the BB boards since Bolex / Gade - guess mid 90’s????

Feel honored to get that intro Wes! 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 03, 2019, 09:14:16 PM
See what I mean?

I asked you to explain in detail WHY they shouldn't use insulin.

You balked, because you're talking out your ass.

You can’t really need to be explained why 16-17 years old shouldnt be abusing (it’s NEVER use unless medically needed!)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 03, 2019, 09:31:07 PM
You can’t really need to be explained why 16-17 years old shouldnt be abusing (it’s NEVER use unless medically needed!)

Apparently, he actually does need this explained to him.  However, logic has a diminishing effect on tall tales.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 03, 2019, 10:03:32 PM
Right on brother. I’ve seen dudes get that for years - just never really had a lot of time to post. Not sure how long I’ll be able to stay steady but I’ll always check the board at least a few times a month. Been around the BB boards since Bolex / Gade - guess mid 90’s????

Feel honored to get that intro Wes! 
My pleasure brother ! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 03, 2019, 10:32:17 PM
My pleasure brother ! LOL  ;D

Just for fun - and for the love of god you have to video this. Just when you’re out and about one day - or maybe at a social gathering - and some cat introduces himself to you - YOU HAVE TO SAY IT!!!!

Need a couple people filming to get reactions. Might be a video that breaks the internet
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 03, 2019, 11:08:41 PM
Once again, NOBODY can offer a legitimate explanation as to why somebody 17 18 or 16 years old most or 17 or 18 however, should not be using insulin. I asked you, or anybody for that matter to offer a valid legitimate explanation as to why they should not and nobody does. Because they cannot.

How many clients do you have? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had compete? How many clients have you had actually turn pro? Much less even when a show or their class?

Have you even used insulin? Do you understand how it works?

I'd.bet the house on you not answering, much less giving me an explanation (for the 3rd or 4th fucking time).

I actually used insulin at 17. I actually spoke with Nasser ans Milo's about how to use it in '99 (about a week apart). I used MYSELF as a guinea pig to push the limits and find out what works and what doesn't.

I posted as InsulinShock for a reason since '99 till '06.

People were saying "oh, you're gonna die" when I was using 45iu's a day when these days you have guys using 100iu+ & 20yrs later w
Not to mention the guys, the wrestlers, were using maybe 6-8iu after weigh-ins or 3-4iu after training off-season if they were going up a weight-class

Not to mention when I came into the picture all these guys were doing was handfulls of winstrol and handfulls of Thermadrene (I doubt you even know what that was and you'll probably have to Google it).

I've been studying anabolics anabolic pharmacology since I had access to the internet rich means probably around 97 or so and that's not even counting the books on steroids and the "dangers" of steroids I read over and over and elementary School from 2nd fucking grade.

You don't fux forget I wanted to be a bodybuilder since age for when I was clicking the dial on the TV looking for my Teddy ruxpin cartoon and came across a bodybuilding contest and saw the likes of Lee Haney and Vince Taylor. My mom would go to the Jim and I would tag along as a young kid and sit in the lobby rating the bodybuilding magazines front to back over and over and over. I would watch the exercise and bodybuilding programs on ESPN during the Summers off of school starting with gilad and Kiana Tom, and musclesport use or whatever it was called (there's plenty clips on YouTube), I would do the exercises I would see on TV using what I had on hand which would be soup cans for curls and lateral extensions and a boombox for overhead tricep extensions and whatnot. I've been studying this shit and have forgotten more than you could learn if you studied the next 20 fucking years. I scour thrift stores book sections 4 endocrinology text books and PDRs. I have endocrinology textbooks from the from the 1950s. You numbskulls are completely clueless in life we have no idea that shit like Halotestin was prescribed to children age 10 or 12 to induce puberty, Marsh last anadrol is prescribed to anemic children at a dose of 300 to 450 mg per day for a minimum of 6 to 9 months and you dumbfucks freak out when somebody is using 150 mg a day when they're in good health and weigh 220 + pounds while the young kids are 80lbs and in poor health.

You idiots rely on bro-science and have NEVER opened an endocrinology textbooks, or even read a study on Medline/Pubmed.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 04, 2019, 01:46:03 AM
Once again, NOBODY can offer a legitimate explanation as to why somebody 17 18 or 16 years old most or 17 or 18 however, should not be using insulin. I asked you, or anybody for that matter to offer a valid legitimate explanation as to why they should not and nobody does. Because they cannot.

How many clients do you have? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had compete? How many clients have you had actually turn pro? Much less even when a show or their class?

Have you even used insulin? Do you understand how it works?

I'd.bet the house on you not answering, much less giving me an explanation (for the 3rd or 4th fucking time).

I actually used insulin at 17. I actually spoke with Nasser ans Milo's about how to use it in '99 (about a week apart). I used MYSELF as a guinea pig to push the limits and find out what works and what doesn't.

I posted as InsulinShock for a reason since '99 till '06.

People were saying "oh, you're gonna die" when I was using 45iu's a day when these days you have guys using 100iu+ & 20yrs later w
Not to mention the guys, the wrestlers, were using maybe 6-8iu after weigh-ins or 3-4iu after training off-season if they were going up a weight-class

Not to mention when I came into the picture all these guys were doing was handfulls of winstrol and handfulls of Thermadrene (I doubt you even know what that was and you'll probably have to Google it).

I've been studying anabolics anabolic pharmacology since I had access to the internet rich means probably around 97 or so and that's not even counting the books on steroids and the "dangers" of steroids I read over and over and elementary School from 2nd fucking grade.

You don't fux forget I wanted to be a bodybuilder since age for when I was clicking the dial on the TV looking for my Teddy ruxpin cartoon and came across a bodybuilding contest and saw the likes of Lee Haney and Vince Taylor. My mom would go to the Jim and I would tag along as a young kid and sit in the lobby rating the bodybuilding magazines front to back over and over and over. I would watch the exercise and bodybuilding programs on ESPN during the Summers off of school starting with gilad and Kiana Tom, and musclesport use or whatever it was called (there's plenty clips on YouTube), I would do the exercises I would see on TV using what I had on hand which would be soup cans for curls and lateral extensions and a boombox for overhead tricep extensions and whatnot. I've been studying this shit and have forgotten more than you could learn if you studied the next 20 fucking years. I scour thrift stores book sections 4 endocrinology text books and PDRs. I have endocrinology textbooks from the from the 1950s. You numbskulls are completely clueless in life we have no idea that shit like Halotestin was prescribed to children age 10 or 12 to induce puberty, Marsh last anadrol is prescribed to anemic children at a dose of 300 to 450 mg per day for a minimum of 6 to 9 months and you dumbfucks freak out when somebody is using 150 mg a day when they're in good health and weigh 220 + pounds while the young kids are 80lbs and in poor health.

You idiots rely on bro-science and have NEVER opened an endocrinology textbooks, or even read a study on Medline/Pubmed.

Big Jim Abimbola! I remember that guy. Always talked about himself in third-person. Had a cock like a fucking Pringles tin on him. He still alive and kicking?

Tex.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2019, 09:50:01 AM
Once again, NOBODY can offer a legitimate explanation as to why somebody 17 18 or 16 years old most or 17 or 18 however, should not be using insulin. I asked you, or anybody for that matter to offer a valid legitimate explanation as to why they should not and nobody does. Because they cannot.

How many clients do you have? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had compete? How many clients have you had actually turn pro? Much less even when a show or their class?

Have you even used insulin? Do you understand how it works?

I'd.bet the house on you not answering, much less giving me an explanation (for the 3rd or 4th fucking time).

I actually used insulin at 17. I actually spoke with Nasser ans Milo's about how to use it in '99 (about a week apart). I used MYSELF as a guinea pig to push the limits and find out what works and what doesn't.

I posted as InsulinShock for a reason since '99 till '06.

People were saying "oh, you're gonna die" when I was using 45iu's a day when these days you have guys using 100iu+ & 20yrs later w
Not to mention the guys, the wrestlers, were using maybe 6-8iu after weigh-ins or 3-4iu after training off-season if they were going up a weight-class

Not to mention when I came into the picture all these guys were doing was handfulls of winstrol and handfulls of Thermadrene (I doubt you even know what that was and you'll probably have to Google it).

I've been studying anabolics anabolic pharmacology since I had access to the internet rich means probably around 97 or so and that's not even counting the books on steroids and the "dangers" of steroids I read over and over and elementary School from 2nd fucking grade.

You don't fux forget I wanted to be a bodybuilder since age for when I was clicking the dial on the TV looking for my Teddy ruxpin cartoon and came across a bodybuilding contest and saw the likes of Lee Haney and Vince Taylor. My mom would go to the Jim and I would tag along as a young kid and sit in the lobby rating the bodybuilding magazines front to back over and over and over. I would watch the exercise and bodybuilding programs on ESPN during the Summers off of school starting with gilad and Kiana Tom, and musclesport use or whatever it was called (there's plenty clips on YouTube), I would do the exercises I would see on TV using what I had on hand which would be soup cans for curls and lateral extensions and a boombox for overhead tricep extensions and whatnot. I've been studying this shit and have forgotten more than you could learn if you studied the next 20 fucking years. I scour thrift stores book sections 4 endocrinology text books and PDRs. I have endocrinology textbooks from the from the 1950s. You numbskulls are completely clueless in life we have no idea that shit like Halotestin was prescribed to children age 10 or 12 to induce puberty, Marsh last anadrol is prescribed to anemic children at a dose of 300 to 450 mg per day for a minimum of 6 to 9 months and you dumbfucks freak out when somebody is using 150 mg a day when they're in good health and weigh 220 + pounds while the young kids are 80lbs and in poor health.

You idiots rely on bro-science and have NEVER opened an endocrinology textbooks, or even read a study on Medline/Pubmed.

I’m not going to read through your wall of bullshit but before I bury your ass as to why kids (teens and young adults) shouldn’t be using it for bodybuilding purposes, give your in your drug pushing way, tell why they should. And before you ask “how many” “have you ever” Bla bla bla, the quick answer is yes.

You’re trying to pass off the later reasons for use for legit MEDICAL reasons for kids as opposed to your backhanded reason for using it for BB.

For the record, Nasser is dead and Milos has, for the most part changed his position on the the doses he used to use for his clients.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 04, 2019, 12:37:50 PM
Writes another novel length post full of nothing in order to try to confuse people.

Advises teens to use insulin and Test and will next advise them to use 120K worth of heroin in a few month period as none of the above can be a danger to the body at all.

WHAT AN IDIOT !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 04, 2019, 01:00:07 PM
Kiana Tom

Her show worked, my forearms were in great shape...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 04, 2019, 01:03:30 PM
Only diabetics should be using insulin, not "thong warrior wanna-bee's"...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2019, 01:27:38 PM
Once again, NOBODY can offer a legitimate explanation as to why somebody 17 18 or 16 years old most or 17 or 18 however, should not be using insulin. I asked you, or anybody for that matter to offer a valid legitimate explanation as to why they should not and nobody does. Because they cannot.

How many clients do you have? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had compete? How many clients have you had actually turn pro? Much less even when a show or their class?

Have you even used insulin? Do you understand how it works?

I'd.bet the house on you not answering, much less giving me an explanation (for the 3rd or 4th fucking time).

I actually used insulin at 17. I actually spoke with Nasser ans Milo's about how to use it in '99 (about a week apart). I used MYSELF as a guinea pig to push the limits and find out what works and what doesn't.

I posted as InsulinShock for a reason since '99 till '06.

People were saying "oh, you're gonna die" when I was using 45iu's a day when these days you have guys using 100iu+ & 20yrs later w
Not to mention the guys, the wrestlers, were using maybe 6-8iu after weigh-ins or 3-4iu after training off-season if they were going up a weight-class

Not to mention when I came into the picture all these guys were doing was handfulls of winstrol and handfulls of Thermadrene (I doubt you even know what that was and you'll probably have to Google it).

I've been studying anabolics anabolic pharmacology since I had access to the internet rich means probably around 97 or so and that's not even counting the books on steroids and the "dangers" of steroids I read over and over and elementary School from 2nd fucking grade.

You don't fux forget I wanted to be a bodybuilder since age for when I was clicking the dial on the TV looking for my Teddy ruxpin cartoon and came across a bodybuilding contest and saw the likes of Lee Haney and Vince Taylor. My mom would go to the Jim and I would tag along as a young kid and sit in the lobby rating the bodybuilding magazines front to back over and over and over. I would watch the exercise and bodybuilding programs on ESPN during the Summers off of school starting with gilad and Kiana Tom, and musclesport use or whatever it was called (there's plenty clips on YouTube), I would do the exercises I would see on TV using what I had on hand which would be soup cans for curls and lateral extensions and a boombox for overhead tricep extensions and whatnot. I've been studying this shit and have forgotten more than you could learn if you studied the next 20 fucking years. I scour thrift stores book sections 4 endocrinology text books and PDRs. I have endocrinology textbooks from the from the 1950s. You numbskulls are completely clueless in life we have no idea that shit like Halotestin was prescribed to children age 10 or 12 to induce puberty, Marsh last anadrol is prescribed to anemic children at a dose of 300 to 450 mg per day for a minimum of 6 to 9 months and you dumbfucks freak out when somebody is using 150 mg a day when they're in good health and weigh 220 + pounds while the young kids are 80lbs and in poor health.

You idiots rely on bro-science and have NEVER opened an endocrinology textbooks, or even read a study on Medline/Pubmed.

Who is this "Jim" guy you keep referring too?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: dexitrim on September 04, 2019, 01:33:15 PM
Not to mention when I came into the picture all these guys were doing was handfulls of winstrol and handfulls of Thermadrene (I doubt you even know what that was and you'll probably have to Google it).

I used a lot of Thermadrene back in the late '90s for my preworkout first thing in the morning.  I don't know about handfuls though.  On my way over to the Pyramid Club Gym in Rahway, NJ one morning, I made the mistake of drinking some of my wife's coffee after I took a Thermadrene.  I thought I was going to die!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2019, 01:36:44 PM
I used a lot of Thermadrene back in the late '90s for my preworkout first thing in the morning.  I don't know about handfuls though.  On my way over to the Pyramid Club Gym in Rahway, NJ one morning, I made the mistake of drinking some of my wife's coffee after I took a Thermadrene.  I thought I was going to die!

ESF is different. He was shooting up $120k of heroin to help bring him down from the Thermadrene.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 04, 2019, 01:41:28 PM
ESF is different. He was shooting up $120k of heroin to help bring him down from the Thermadrene.

Your right about him being different
He Lives in La La Land
And Suffers from Inexhaustible Verbal Diarrhoea & Fantasy Delusions
That he posts as Reality.  ::)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 04, 2019, 01:56:12 PM
ESF is different. He was shooting up $120k of heroin to help bring him down from the Thermadrene.
All at one time too !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 04, 2019, 01:57:31 PM
Your right about him being different
He Lives in La La Land
And Suffers from Inexhaustible Verbal Diarrhoea & Fantasy Delusions
That he posts as Reality.  ::)
I think his invisible brain is fried from all the vast quantities of invisible drugs he has ingested.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 04, 2019, 01:58:33 PM
Only diabetics should be using insulin, not "thong warrior wanna-bee's"...

Looks like their still using. Bubble guts on stage all the time
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 04, 2019, 02:01:28 PM
I think his invisible brain is fried from all the vast quantities of invisible drugs he has ingested.  LOL  ;D

You’re probably right
He’s definitely out there - Likely Out there as far as Pluto !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 04, 2019, 03:19:47 PM
I think his invisible brain is fried from all the vast quantities of invisible drugs he has ingested.  LOL  ;D

Be careful Wes.  This sounds dangerously close to disrespect.  Your thongs and trophy's will only buy you so much Mercy from ESF.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 04, 2019, 04:43:30 PM
I used a lot of Thermadrene back in the late '90s for my preworkout first thing in the morning.  I don't know about handfuls though.  On my way over to the Pyramid Club Gym in Rahway, NJ one morning, I made the mistake of drinking some of my wife's coffee after I took a Thermadrene.  I thought I was going to die!

These dudes were taking 4-5 pregame and another 4-5 at halftime. I don't know how they didn't have heart attacks. Found out there was a senior (when I was a sophomore) selling them for $3 a piece. I had jars and jars or Ripped Fuel, Diet fuel, and xenedrine I believe at the time so I started selling them for 20 for $20 (& advising not to take 10 a fucking game. I didn't need some dude having a stroke and fingers pointed at me). I preferred Ultimate Orange. I remember the USMC guys having their annual pull-up contest at lunch my junior yr and I wanted to win and wanted the t-shirt so I took either a double or a triple serving (I believe double) with a couple handfuls of vanadal sulfate (about 60mg or so I believe). Thought my heart was gonna explode. Still won tho, and beat the senior wrestlers and got the tee-shirt. Only took about 18 to win. Did most overhand chins, then switched to rev grip pullups. I remember that's how I met staff Sgt Gordon and  dude wouldnt leave me alone for the next 2yrs or whatever it was. Remember he'd call me at home Friday about 6-7, usually just after getting home from the gym and ask what  I was doing tmrw (sat), before I could think something up he'd say "great! I'll come by and pick you up and we'll go train. I'll be there at 7am" before I could say "no" or even ask how he knew where I lived. Sure enough, 7am he's there and we'd head to MCRD and do whatever he wanted.. some days it'd be 30-60mins of weights, then we'd go somewhere else outside on base and Sprint for an hour, or take out kayaks and race in the bay for an hour then go run for 30mins.... Every fucking Saturday morning for months. And the dude would always ask if i wanted a beer as we drove past the store on base "we work hard and we play hard... I don't drink. I don't know if you do, but what happens on base stays on base" I always thought it was some sorta trick cuz I was only 17 or whatever and I didn't party, and wouldn't drink my first beer till I was 21.

Anyways.. enough of memory lane trips for the day
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 04, 2019, 04:51:19 PM
I think his invisible brain is fried from all the vast quantities of invisible drugs he has ingested.  LOL  ;D

"Vast quantities of drugs"eh?

Thats the pot calling the kettle black. Coming from a tweaker. How many times did you stay up for a week and go through speed-psychosis? That doesn't happen with opiates. I'm not a tweaker or coke-head. Never have been. I don't even drink coffee usually. You on other hand have a brain ruined by stimulants that cause psychosis and drive you to steal your family's VCR and power tools to pawn so you could keep your little coke and meth binges going.

It's amazing how meth heads don't realize how they argue with everybody and never shut up, even after they get clean. Your brains remain ruined.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 04, 2019, 05:10:42 PM
Once again, NOBODY can offer a legitimate explanation as to why somebody 17 18 or 16 years old most or 17 or 18 however, should not be using insulin. I asked you, or anybody for that matter to offer a valid legitimate explanation as to why they should not and nobody does. Because they cannot.

How many clients do you have? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had? How many clients have you had compete? How many clients have you had actually turn pro? Much less even when a show or their class?

Have you even used insulin? Do you understand how it works?

I'd.bet the house on you not answering, much less giving me an explanation (for the 3rd or 4th fucking time).

I actually used insulin at 17. I actually spoke with Nasser ans Milo's about how to use it in '99 (about a week apart). I used MYSELF as a guinea pig to push the limits and find out what works and what doesn't.

I posted as InsulinShock for a reason since '99 till '06.

People were saying "oh, you're gonna die" when I was using 45iu's a day when these days you have guys using 100iu+ & 20yrs later w
Not to mention the guys, the wrestlers, were using maybe 6-8iu after weigh-ins or 3-4iu after training off-season if they were going up a weight-class

Not to mention when I came into the picture all these guys were doing was handfulls of winstrol and handfulls of Thermadrene (I doubt you even know what that was and you'll probably have to Google it).

I've been studying anabolics anabolic pharmacology since I had access to the internet rich means probably around 97 or so and that's not even counting the books on steroids and the "dangers" of steroids I read over and over and elementary School from 2nd fucking grade.

You don't fux forget I wanted to be a bodybuilder since age for when I was clicking the dial on the TV looking for my Teddy ruxpin cartoon and came across a bodybuilding contest and saw the likes of Lee Haney and Vince Taylor. My mom would go to the Jim and I would tag along as a young kid and sit in the lobby rating the bodybuilding magazines front to back over and over and over. I would watch the exercise and bodybuilding programs on ESPN during the Summers off of school starting with gilad and Kiana Tom, and musclesport use or whatever it was called (there's plenty clips on YouTube), I would do the exercises I would see on TV using what I had on hand which would be soup cans for curls and lateral extensions and a boombox for overhead tricep extensions and whatnot. I've been studying this shit and have forgotten more than you could learn if you studied the next 20 fucking years. I scour thrift stores book sections 4 endocrinology text books and PDRs. I have endocrinology textbooks from the from the 1950s. You numbskulls are completely clueless in life we have no idea that shit like Halotestin was prescribed to children age 10 or 12 to induce puberty, Marsh last anadrol is prescribed to anemic children at a dose of 300 to 450 mg per day for a minimum of 6 to 9 months and you dumbfucks freak out when somebody is using 150 mg a day when they're in good health and weigh 220 + pounds while the young kids are 80lbs and in poor health.

You idiots rely on bro-science and have NEVER opened an endocrinology textbooks, or even read a study on Medline/Pubmed.

1 - Having to explain to you why kids shouldn't use insulin is only a testament of your stupidity.
2 - Grace us with the names of the people you turned pro.   I'll wait.
3 - If you know so much, if you use so much, why do you look no better than a natural?  When I saw you IG page, it was 90% photos from the back and you hunching up your shoulder in an effort make it look like your traps were big (they were not).  From the front, you had a gunt. 

Don't ask me about how many clients I trained or whatever... I went to graduate school and stayed out of prison so I am not limited to the lower grunt work of the employment sector.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 04, 2019, 07:10:52 PM
ESFITNESS getting owned in this thread.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 04, 2019, 07:27:31 PM
ESFITNESS getting owned in this thread.

Delivering a UK Jeff style curb stomp.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 04, 2019, 07:59:45 PM
"Vast quantities of drugs"eh?

Thats the pot calling the kettle black. Coming from a tweaker. How many times did you stay up for a week and go through speed-psychosis? That doesn't happen with opiates. I'm not a tweaker or coke-head. Never have been. I don't even drink coffee usually. You on other hand have a brain ruined by stimulants that cause psychosis and drive you to steal your family's VCR and power tools to pawn so you could keep your little coke and meth binges going.

It's amazing how meth heads don't realize how they argue with everybody and never shut up, even after they get clean. Your brains remain ruined.
What`s amazing is the fact that you make up stories about me to suit your own agenda whereas I`m just stating facts about your lies and delusions.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 04, 2019, 08:01:43 PM
Be careful Wes.  This sounds dangerously close to disrespect.  Your thongs and trophy's will only buy you so much Mercy from ESF.
Ooops.......what was I thinking ?  lol  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 04, 2019, 09:01:30 PM
I remember the USMC guys having their annual pull-up contest at lunch my junior yr and I wanted to win and wanted the t-shirt so I took either a double or a triple serving (I believe double) with a couple handfuls of vanadal sulfate (about 60mg or so I believe). Thought my heart was gonna explode. Still won tho, and beat the senior wrestlers and got the tee-shirt. Only took about 18 to win. Did most overhand chins, then switched to rev grip pullups.



An SF1900 level story here, folks.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 04, 2019, 09:59:45 PM
ESF - have YOU ever competed? If not why? I remember you as the insulinshock kid years ago. You have to know that many of the more experienced guys thought you were a wannabe know it all.
My guess is that you have never once stepped on stage - yet delude yourself into thinking you could. Admittedly I had pretty much stopped competing in BB by the time you came around - but I don’t constantly spew nonsense about being some kind of guru.
Don’t you have a child? Shouldn’t it be time to grow up and behave like a man? You don’t seem like a bad dude at heart - just terribly insecure and very much wanting to feel like you aren’t a loser. You aren’t even close to the most knowledgeable on the boards - but damn man that’s OK!! You don’t have to be.
As far as dangers of insulin - you sound foolish. If you’ve never met anyone who has been in an hypoglycemic induced coma I can assure that it’s no good. I knew a diabetic that simply forgot he had taken his insulin and re dosed. He left the office and was found later walking aimlessly nowhere near his vehicle. Went into a coma for a couple of months. Guy is a complete jellyhead now (I don’t mean that insulting)
Anyway - aren’t you only mid-30’s - you should be in prime years for the next decade so why not put all of your knowledge to use and at least win a small show?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 05, 2019, 01:51:49 AM
Hahaha, love Eric's stories. Doped himself to the fucking gills in order to win a school sports day, and then "Staff Sgt Gordon" from the US Marines started following him around like a lost puppy for two years afterwards.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/4ttUnzvQokogw/giphy.gif)

Tex.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 05, 2019, 05:22:46 AM
ESF - have YOU ever competed? If not why? I remember you as the insulinshock kid years ago. You have to know that many of the more experienced guys thought you were a wannabe know it all.
My guess is that you have never once stepped on stage - yet delude yourself into thinking you could. Admittedly I had pretty much stopped competing in BB by the time you came around - but I don’t constantly spew nonsense about being some kind of guru.
Don’t you have a child? Shouldn’t it be time to grow up and behave like a man? You don’t seem like a bad dude at heart - just terribly insecure and very much wanting to feel like you aren’t a loser. You aren’t even close to the most knowledgeable on the boards - but damn man that’s OK!! You don’t have to be.
As far as dangers of insulin - you sound foolish. If you’ve never met anyone who has been in an hypoglycemic induced coma I can assure that it’s no good. I knew a diabetic that simply forgot he had taken his insulin and re dosed. He left the office and was found later walking aimlessly nowhere near his vehicle. Went into a coma for a couple of months. Guy is a complete jellyhead now (I don’t mean that insulting)
Anyway - aren’t you only mid-30’s - you should be in prime years for the next decade so why not put all of your knowledge to use and at least win a small show?

Very good post
A lot of sound sense & advice

Let’s see what sort of Reasoned sensible reply you receive from him.........
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 05, 2019, 09:24:11 AM
ESF - have YOU ever competed? If not why? I remember you as the insulinshock kid years ago. You have to know that many of the more experienced guys thought you were a wannabe know it all.
My guess is that you have never once stepped on stage - yet delude yourself into thinking you could. Admittedly I had pretty much stopped competing in BB by the time you came around - but I don’t constantly spew nonsense about being some kind of guru.
Don’t you have a child? Shouldn’t it be time to grow up and behave like a man? You don’t seem like a bad dude at heart - just terribly insecure and very much wanting to feel like you aren’t a loser. You aren’t even close to the most knowledgeable on the boards - but damn man that’s OK!! You don’t have to be.
As far as dangers of insulin - you sound foolish. If you’ve never met anyone who has been in an hypoglycemic induced coma I can assure that it’s no good. I knew a diabetic that simply forgot he had taken his insulin and re dosed. He left the office and was found later walking aimlessly nowhere near his vehicle. Went into a coma for a couple of months. Guy is a complete jellyhead now (I don’t mean that insulting)
Anyway - aren’t you only mid-30’s - you should be in prime years for the next decade so why not put all of your knowledge to use and at least win a small show?

Oh dear God.... this is going to trigger a fucking wall of text about some celebrity cartel member in hollywood rehab that went into a hypo coma still standing next to him at the urinal and his family wouldn't help him (because of him being a dick and all), so EFS performed some ancient forbidden revival method, so steeped in mystery it resulted in the SWAT team arriving and a shoot out occurring.  No one injured though cause EFS was doing one handed pull ups while shooting and his aim was off....   he only got probation afterwards though.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 05, 2019, 09:29:12 AM
Oh dear God.... this is going to trigger a fucking wall of text about some celebrity cartel member in hollywood rehab that went into a hypo coma still standing next to him at the urinal and his family wouldn't help him (because of him being a dick and all), so EFS performed some ancient forbidden revival method, so steeped in mystery it resulted in the SWAT team arriving and a shoot out occurring.  No one injured though cause EFS was doing one handed pull ups while shooting and his aim was off....   he only got probation afterwards though.
Fucking hilarious and right on the money !  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 05, 2019, 09:58:56 AM
Fucking hilarious and right on the money !  LOL  ;D

Don't worry he will be right on here to tell us all about it after he finishes his 29 hour work day that is resulting in some random blueberry turning pro.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 05, 2019, 10:22:08 AM
;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 05, 2019, 11:15:11 AM
Looks like their still using. Bubble guts on stage all the time

Yup, the "bloofy, water-filled muscle suit of peace" look.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 05, 2019, 11:51:19 AM
Hahaha, love Eric's stories. Doped himself to the fucking gills in order to win a school sports day, and then "Staff Sgt Gordon" from the US Marines started following him around like a lost puppy for two years afterwards.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/4ttUnzvQokogw/giphy.gif)

Tex.

Yeah, Eric's stories from his past are a bit far-fetched at times. But, that's how memories work. Overtime, everything gets bigger and more dramatic. It's not lying so much as just personal folklore. It is human nature to embellish our histories.

Personally, I like reading his posts because I find them entertaining most of the time. More-so when they are not posted as one long paragraph, which leaves me out of breath by the end. Some of his posts are repetitious. This happens when they are the same (old) story told slightly differently. He could use some new material.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 05, 2019, 12:12:48 PM
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 05, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
What`s amazing is the fact that you make up stories about me to suit your own agenda whereas I`m just stating facts about your lies and delusions.

I make up stories about you? Haha , nope, I don't know anything about you other that what you've said about being a junkie and your friends being junkies who stole everything to pay for their dope... And you obviously know nothing about heroin, so that leaves what? Meth and coke for you.

And what am I lying about or delusional about?

ESF - have YOU ever competed? If not why? I remember you as the insulinshock kid years ago. You have to know that many of the more experienced guys thought you were a wannabe know it all.
My guess is that you have never once stepped on stage - yet delude yourself into thinking you could. Admittedly I had pretty much stopped competing in BB by the time you came around - but I don’t constantly spew nonsense about being some kind of guru.
Don’t you have a child? Shouldn’t it be time to grow up and behave like a man? You don’t seem like a bad dude at heart - just terribly insecure and very much wanting to feel like you aren’t a loser. You aren’t even close to the most knowledgeable on the boards - but damn man that’s OK!! You don’t have to be.
As far as dangers of insulin - you sound foolish. If you’ve never met anyone who has been in an hypoglycemic induced coma I can assure that it’s no good. I knew a diabetic that simply forgot he had taken his insulin and re dosed. He left the office and was found later walking aimlessly nowhere near his vehicle. Went into a coma for a couple of months. Guy is a complete jellyhead now (I don’t mean that insulting)
Anyway - aren’t you only mid-30’s - you should be in prime years for the next decade so why not put all of your knowledge to use and at least win a small show?

Nope. Never made it onstage. The 3x I attempted I ended up pulling out (San Diego championships, border states, and I forget if it was the orange county muscle classic or the San Diego championships again), all kinda back to back. Ended up in the hospital twice. Once with gastritis, couldn't eat and at the end, by day 9-12, I couldn't even swallow a sip of water without crazy pain in my stomach. That's zero food for 12days, and at the end, zero water for 3-4days, dropped from 218 down to the 180/190's and was planning on doing the superheavy class (I'm 6ft.. back then I was 6'1"/6'1.5"... Lost an inch and a half ovrr the years). Similar thing happened the next one, except with renal faliure. Last one I had other shit to deal with (issue with another dealer, long story. Ppl from Mayhem might remember), newborn baby, and was in hospital for 10days with pancreatitis.

Back then I was always having to diet-up for the shows, (except the 3rd, I was fine) as I don't carry a ton of muscle naturally. Took a while to get to where I'd walk around at 225-235 without pushing the envelope chemical-wise. Not to mention dealing with injuries. Neck, shoulder, bicep etc..

So your therory is that because I don't have the genetics, or even desire, to compete, that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics? Hahaha says a lot about you.

You idiots like to believe the naritive dolts like to paint about me (Jeff, Wes, Josh, the fat black with the missing front tooth, whatever his name is, etc whoever)... The dolts who follow me around from thread to thread.

You EVER see me following people into threads and trolling them? I don't care about them.. I don't think about them, whereas Im somehow occupying a lot of space in their brain and their life. Hell, look at this thread. I didn't start it, I gotta text telling me about it and I wasn't even on the board anymore. I asked to be "deleted" as I was dealing with a private investigator and a gf's baby's psycho father and her believing he was gonna kill her and she didn't want him to have the baby, she wanted me to adopt him, and he'd likely use stuff from here against me. Spoken with mods here (&Ron) about it, as well as ppl off the board. I wasn't even checking in here anymore. This place is just partly entertaining, whereas some of you people live here and think about this place while you're eating breakfast, driving to work, at work, eating lunch, eating dinner, picking up your kids from school, fucking your boyfriend's, etc.etc.etc... I have other shit to worry about. I have other shit that's more interesting to me for instance looking at this $0.05 Euro coin from espana or this 5¢ "Wu jiao" from China in my hand is more interesting than anything going on with any of you morons. I'm amazed you even remember anything about me, because I don't recall anything about you. Maybe I should take that as a compliment I'd rather be memorable than forgettable even if most of shit you remember about me is made up by somebody else
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 05, 2019, 04:35:02 PM
I make up stories about you? Haha , nope, I don't know anything about you other that what you've said about being a junkie and your friends being junkies who stole everything to pay for their dope... And you obviously know nothing about heroin, so that leaves what? Meth and coke for you.

And what am I lying about or delusional about?

Nope. Never made it onstage. The 3x I attempted I ended up pulling out (San Diego championships, border states, and I forget if it was the orange county muscle classic or the San Diego championships again), all kinda back to back. Ended up in the hospital twice. Once with gastritis, couldn't eat and at the end, by day 9-12, I couldn't even swallow a sip of water without crazy pain in my stomach. That's zero food for 12days, and at the end, zero water for 3-4days, dropped from 218 down to the 180/190's and was planning on doing the superheavy class (I'm 6ft.. back then I was 6'1"/6'1.5"... Lost an inch and a half ovrr the years). Similar thing happened the next one, except with renal faliure. Last one I had other shit to deal with (issue with another dealer, long story. Ppl from Mayhem might remember), newborn baby, and was in hospital for 10days with pancreatitis.

Back then I was always having to diet-up for the shows, (except the 3rd, I was fine) as I don't carry a ton of muscle naturally. Took a while to get to where I'd walk around at 225-235 without pushing the envelope chemical-wise. Not to mention dealing with injuries. Neck, shoulder, bicep etc..

So your therory is that because I don't have the genetics, or even desire, to compete, that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics? Hahaha says a lot about you.

You idiots like to believe the naritive dolts like to paint about me (Jeff, Wes, Josh, the fat black with the missing front tooth, whatever his name is, etc whoever)... The dolts who follow me around from thread to thread.

You EVER see me following people into threads and trolling them? I don't care about them.. I don't think about them, whereas Im somehow occupying a lot of space in their brain and their life. Hell, look at this thread. I didn't start it, I gotta text telling me about it and I wasn't even on the board anymore. I asked to be "deleted" as I was dealing with a private investigator and a gf's baby's psycho father and her believing he was gonna kill her and she didn't want him to have the baby, she wanted me to adopt him, and he'd likely use stuff from here against me. Spoken with mods here (&Ron) about it, as well as ppl off the board. I wasn't even checking in here anymore. This place is just partly entertaining, whereas some of you people live here and think about this place while you're eating breakfast, driving to work, at work, eating lunch, eating dinner, picking up your kids from school, fucking your boyfriend's, etc.etc.etc... I have other shit to worry about. I have other shit that's more interesting to me for instance looking at this $0.05 Euro coin from espana or this 5¢ "Wu jiao" from China in my hand is more interesting than anything going on with any of you morons. I'm amazed you even remember anything about me, because I don't recall anything about you. Maybe I should take that as a compliment I'd rather be memorable than forgettable even if most of shit you remember about me is made up by somebody else


 ::)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 05, 2019, 04:44:18 PM
Never did Meth in my entire life.

Never said I was a junkie.

I know more than you do about heroin.........for instance,the amount you said you did in the amount of time that you said you did it in is almost fucking impossible.

You also said you lost just a tiny amount of weight while using this huge amount.

NEWSFLASH: Junkies do not have appetites !!

Have you ever overdosed on heroin using that amount in that timeframe ?

Then you write a long dissertation about not competing because each time you wanted to,you had come up with a disease.  LOL  ;D

You have had every fucking disease and operation there is to have except on your brain, and that`s the operation you need the most.

I comment on your threads because they are mostly lies and that`s what we do here we out liars and morons like yourself.

Trust me,I don`t think of you that much,I just want people here to know you`re full of shit.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: WalterWhite on September 05, 2019, 05:01:05 PM
This is going 100 pages.  :D

(https://i.ibb.co/d07h81t/don-t-stress.png) (https://ibb.co/QFX5yzk)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 05, 2019, 05:28:17 PM
Btw, "why don't you get onstage just once, now?"...

Because I don't really have any desire to. I'm 37. I started training on my 14th birthday, and trained 5-6days a week and never missed a session. Started anabolics on my 17th birthday (100mg test [1amp of Sten] a week for 12weeks, started insulin around week 7). 12 weeks off then back on 1cc of Schien test cyp 200mg/wk for 14wks) then about 6months off before I figured out I could just go to Mexico every week and do my shots down there instead of having to smuggle drugs back across the border, having already been caught by u.s. customs once and Mexican police once. (And multiple times in the years after).

That's 23yrs of training with 20 of those yrs never missing a workout whether if was bodybuilding or powerlifting from 07-'11 including bad shoulder and neck injuries.. even trained through kidney stones and pissing so much blood it looked like hot sauce, not to mention I followed bodybuilding and read everything I could from age 7,and 20yrs of anabolics.

That's 30yrs of following bodybuilding, 23yrs of training. As of now, I'm done, and I use the knowledge of training, nutrition, and PED's to train others.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 05, 2019, 05:43:31 PM
Never did Meth in my entire life.

Never said I was a junkie.

I know more than you do about heroin.........for instance,the amount you said you did in the amount of time that you said you did it in is almost fucking impossible.

You also said you lost just a tiny amount of weight while using this huge amount.

NEWSFLASH: Junkies do not have appetites !!

Have you ever overdosed on heroin using that amount in that timeframe ?

Then you write a long dissertation about not competing because each time you wanted to,you had come up with a disease.  LOL  ;D

You have had every fucking disease and operation there is to have except on your brain, and that`s the operation you need the most.

I comment on your threads because they are mostly lies and that`s what we do here we out liars and morons like yourself.

Trust me,I don`t think of you that much,I just want people here to know you`re full of shit.

"Junkies don't have appetites"? Maybe meth and coke junkies.

Opiates made me hungry. Ask some Nubain users.

Overdosed? Yep. 3x. Twice in 1 day, the 2nd time was in the gym. Woke up and went right back to training my client unaware I had blacked out/passed out and stood up like nothing happened (I have no memory of it. I had no idea what the 2 girls were talking about and went back to loading plates on the hammer strength machine) they called the EMTs even though I said cancel it, I'm fine. EMTs showed up, took my blood pressure etc.. bp was 240/160 or whatever and pulse was over 200, same thing with the first time I OD'd and someone called EMTs. They insisted I go to the hospital but I declined and had to sign a waiver, saying that if I drove off and crashed and someone was killed that I'd be charged with murder/manslaughter or whatever... At work they made me go to the hospital where I checked out after a few hrs and had my gf come pick me up.

And using the amount of heroin is "fucking impossible"?? Obviously it's not.

And what disease have I ever had???

Fuck, you're an idiot who's brain is ruined by stimulants. People like you love to argue with everybody and get stuck on pointless things and you don't even realize it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 05, 2019, 05:47:26 PM
This is going 100 pages.  :D

(https://i.ibb.co/d07h81t/don-t-stress.png) (https://ibb.co/QFX5yzk)

I can't tell if that's a Photoshoped pic of me lol. The hair is similar when it's long. The nose looks right. Eyes look right, minus eyebrow scars. Beard looks trimmed different though. Even the hand looks how it looks now lol

Wtf lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 05, 2019, 06:19:18 PM
Btw, "why don't you get onstage just once, now?"...

Because I don't really have any desire to. I'm 37. I started training on my 14th birthday, and trained 5-6days a week and never missed a session. Started anabolics on my 17th birthday (100mg test [1amp of Sten] a week for 12weeks, started insulin around week 7). 12 weeks off then back on 1cc of Schien test cyp 200mg/wk for 14wks) then about 6months off before I figured out I could just go to Mexico every week and do my shots down there instead of having to smuggle drugs back across the border, having already been caught by u.s. customs once and Mexican police once. (And multiple times in the years after).

That's 23yrs of training with 20 of those yrs never missing a workout whether if was bodybuilding or powerlifting from 07-'11 including bad shoulder and neck injuries.. even trained through kidney stones and pissing so much blood it looked like hot sauce, not to mention I followed bodybuilding and read everything I could from age 7,and 20yrs of anabolics.

That's 30yrs of following bodybuilding, 23yrs of training. As of now, I'm done, and I use the knowledge of training, nutrition, and PED's to train others.


And you still built a terrible physique !! 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 05, 2019, 06:22:53 PM
Btw, "why don't you get onstage just once, now?"...

Because I don't really have any desire to. I'm 37. I started training on my 14th birthday, and trained 5-6days a week and never missed a session. Started anabolics on my 17th birthday (100mg test [1amp of Sten] a week for 12weeks, started insulin around week 7). 12 weeks off then back on 1cc of Schien test cyp 200mg/wk for 14wks) then about 6months off before I figured out I could just go to Mexico every week and do my shots down there instead of having to smuggle drugs back across the border, having already been caught by u.s. customs once and Mexican police once. (And multiple times in the years after).

That's 23yrs of training with 20 of those yrs never missing a workout whether if was bodybuilding or powerlifting from 07-'11 including bad shoulder and neck injuries.. even trained through kidney stones and pissing so much blood it looked like hot sauce, not to mention I followed bodybuilding and read everything I could from age 7,and 20yrs of anabolics.

That's 30yrs of following bodybuilding, 23yrs of training. As of now, I'm done, and I use the knowledge of training, nutrition, and PED's to train others.





Oh please, me and Wes are older than you are and you don't hear us whining......stop being a pussy and get on stage you druggie bastard and prove us wrong.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 05, 2019, 06:27:49 PM


Oh please, me and Wes are older than you are and you don't hear us whining......stop being a pussy and get on age you druggie bastard and prove us wrong.

I've seen you on stage. You looked like a 50yr old fat black stripper with tits like cucumbers. 🥒  🥒

And what the fuck am i "whining" about? Me saying I have no desire to get on stage? lol could say the same about you having no desire to ever be below 30% bodyfat or fix that speech impediment.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2019, 06:42:52 PM
I make up stories about you? Haha , nope, I don't know anything about you other that what you've said about being a junkie and your friends being junkies who stole everything to pay for their dope... And you obviously know nothing about heroin, so that leaves what? Meth and coke for you.

And what am I lying about or delusional about?

Nope. Never made it onstage. The 3x I attempted I ended up pulling out (San Diego championships, border states, and I forget if it was the orange county muscle classic or the San Diego championships again), all kinda back to back. Ended up in the hospital twice. Once with gastritis, couldn't eat and at the end, by day 9-12, I couldn't even swallow a sip of water without crazy pain in my stomach. That's zero food for 12days, and at the end, zero water for 3-4days, dropped from 218 down to the 180/190's and was planning on doing the superheavy class (I'm 6ft.. back then I was 6'1"/6'1.5"... Lost an inch and a half ovrr the years). Similar thing happened the next one, except with renal faliure. Last one I had other shit to deal with (issue with another dealer, long story. Ppl from Mayhem might remember), newborn baby, and was in hospital for 10days with pancreatitis.

Back then I was always having to diet-up for the shows, (except the 3rd, I was fine) as I don't carry a ton of muscle naturally. Took a while to get to where I'd walk around at 225-235 without pushing the envelope chemical-wise. Not to mention dealing with injuries. Neck, shoulder, bicep etc..

So your therory is that because I don't have the genetics, or even desire, to compete, that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics? Hahaha says a lot about you.

You idiots like to believe the naritive dolts like to paint about me (Jeff, Wes, Josh, the fat black with the missing front tooth, whatever his name is, etc whoever)... The dolts who follow me around from thread to thread.

You EVER see me following people into threads and trolling them? I don't care about them.. I don't think about them, whereas Im somehow occupying a lot of space in their brain and their life. Hell, look at this thread. I didn't start it, I gotta text telling me about it and I wasn't even on the board anymore. I asked to be "deleted" as I was dealing with a private investigator and a gf's baby's psycho father and her believing he was gonna kill her and she didn't want him to have the baby, she wanted me to adopt him, and he'd likely use stuff from here against me. Spoken with mods here (&Ron) about it, as well as ppl off the board. I wasn't even checking in here anymore. This place is just partly entertaining, whereas some of you people live here and think about this place while you're eating breakfast, driving to work, at work, eating lunch, eating dinner, picking up your kids from school, fucking your boyfriend's, etc.etc.etc... I have other shit to worry about. I have other shit that's more interesting to me for instance looking at this $0.05 Euro coin from espana or this 5¢ "Wu jiao" from China in my hand is more interesting than anything going on with any of you morons. I'm amazed you even remember anything about me, because I don't recall anything about you. Maybe I should take that as a compliment I'd rather be memorable than forgettable even if most of shit you remember about me is made up by somebody else

So basically you gave up. The prep part of competing was too difficult so after three no-go’s you said fuck it
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 05, 2019, 07:04:01 PM
I've seen you on stage. You looked like a 50yr old fat black stripper with tits like cucumbers. 🥒  🥒

And what the fuck am i "whining" about? Me saying I have no desire to get on stage? lol could say the same about you having no desire to ever be below 30% bodyfat or fix that speech impediment.

.All talk no balls or shaft.   Wash your vagina out
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 05, 2019, 08:26:33 PM
There are many of us on here with much more experience than you Eric. From age 14 to 24 doesn’t really count - but honestly 23 years of being misguided and foolish doesn’t make you an expert. You jumped on juice WAY too young - looking for fast results rather than the long grind of training and REALLY learning. You state that “you followed BB and read the magazines and boards” - you do realize that doesn’t remotely make you even knowledgeable much less an “expert”.
But you are still a child and children don’t know when to listen and learn rather than talk. So there is absolutely nothing that can help you. You will be 40 soon with not much to show for all your years of expertise. You do have a few years left - one goal could be to grow up.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 05, 2019, 08:42:28 PM
As predicted... wall of text.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 05, 2019, 09:29:31 PM
There are many of us on here with much more experience than you Eric. From age 14 to 24 doesn’t really count - but honestly 23 years of being misguided and foolish doesn’t make you an expert. You jumped on juice WAY too young - looking for fast results rather than the long grind of training and REALLY learning. You state that “you followed BB and read the magazines and boards” - you do realize that doesn’t remotely make you even knowledgeable much less an “expert”.
But you are still a child and children don’t know when to listen and learn rather than talk. So there is absolutely nothing that can help you. You will be 40 soon with not much to show for all your years of expertise. You do have a few years left - one goal could be to grow up.

"14-24"?? Wtf is that from?

You have a deluded vission of me that's made up by dunce's and post their naritive of my life.
.

.All talk no balls or shaft.   Wash your vagina out

That sounds like you're asking for a dick pic. All you gotta do is as Fatboy. Or head to PornHub, an ex.gf posted like 4-5 of our videos. Make sure you watch the whole thing...I'm sure that girl needs the cash.
So basically you gave up. The prep part of competing was too difficult so after three no-go’s you said fuck it


Yea... I "gave up". Wasn't all that important to me.anyways.  From the time i was 7-14,15,16,17 I wanted to.be a pro bber... When I realized I didn't have the genetics it wasn't that important to me. Gave it a shot at 18/19/20/21 or whatever it was, but I had a wife a kids and I don't have the genetics to turn pro without devoting every second of every day to "bodybuilding" and turning pro, and even then there's no guarantee of a "big paycheck", so I chose to hustle, idiot. You fat little pudgy numbskull. I chose my life and my kids over bodybuilding. You're gonna criticize that? You fucking fat face midget? We live in the same.area, feel free to say it to my face. You know I'll show up. I promise to let go of the choke when you go limp or piss yourself. Bitch.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2019, 09:48:43 PM
"14-24"?? Wtf is that from?

You have a deluded vission of me that's made up by dunce's and post their naritive of my life.
.

That sounds like you're asking for a dick pic. All you gotta do is as Fatboy. Or head to PornHub, an ex.gf posted like 4-5 of our videos. Make sure you watch the whole thing...I'm sure that girl needs the cash.

Yea... I "gave up". Wasn't all that important to me.anyways.  From the time i was 7-14,15,16,17 I wanted to.be a pro bber... When I realized I didn't have the genetics it wasn't that important to me. Gave it a shot at 18/19/20/21 or whatever it was, but I had a wife a kids and I don't have the genetics to turn pro without devoting every second of every day to "bodybuilding" and turning pro, and even then there's no guarantee of a "big paycheck", so I chose to hustle, idiot. You fat little pudgy numbskull. I chose my life and my kids over bodybuilding. You're gonna criticize that? You fucking fat face midget? We live in the same.area, feel free to say it to my face. You know I'll show up. I promise to let go of the choke when you go limp or piss yourself. Bitch.

No, you gave up otherwise you have done at least 1,2 or even three shows just to get a taste of why competitive bodybuilding is bodybuilding. If you haven’t been there you shouldn’t speak on it but I digress, having a wife and kids you still chose to hustle, sell street drugs then eventually jail, prison, etc.

PS, I’m not hard to find tough guy and no, we’re not in the area. We’re over 100 miles apart. You don’t like it when I say you gave up. Well, you did. When ANYONE makes excuses as to why they couldn’t do this or that, it’s a fucking excuse and sets you or anyone else up for failure in anything they do. It’s a cop out. It should piss you off
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: WalterWhite on September 05, 2019, 09:52:56 PM
I can't tell if that's a Photoshoped pic of me lol. The hair is similar when it's long. The nose looks right. Eyes look right, minus eyebrow scars. Beard looks trimmed different though. Even the hand looks how it looks now lol

Wtf lol

Not shopped but not far off ;D

(https://i.ibb.co/d07h81t/don-039-t-stress.png) (https://ibb.co/QFX5yzk)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 05, 2019, 10:07:36 PM
No, you gave up otherwise you have done at least 1,2 or even three shows just to get a taste of why competitive bodybuilding is bodybuilding. If you haven’t been there you shouldn’t speak on it but I digress, having a wife and kids you still chose to hustle, sell street drugs then eventually jail, prison, etc.

PS, I’m not hard to find tough guy and no, we’re not in the area. We’re over 100 miles apart. You don’t like it when I say you gave up. Well, you did. When ANYONE makes excuses as to why they couldn’t do this or that, it’s a fucking excuse and sets you or anyone else up for failure in anything they do. It’s a cop out. It should piss you off


You have a home in rancho mirage, no?

I'm in palm desert. We're 2niles apart.

I don't give a fuck what you call it "gave up" or whatever, I don't care for your disrespectful fucking attitude. And I won't tolerate it my fucking fat faced fucking punchable midget you little fucking bitch I will choke you to sleep and piss on your fucking face fat little disrespectful punk.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2019, 10:14:22 PM
You have a home in rancho mirage, no?

I'm in palm desert. We're 2niles apart.

I don't give a fuck what you call it "gave up" or whatever, I don't care for your disrespectful fucking attitude. And I won't tolerate it my fucking fat faced fucking punchable midget you little fucking bitch I will choke you to sleep and piss on your fucking face fat little disrespectful punk.

Nope, sold my place at Desert Princess 3 years ago and it was a vacation home. I’ve been in HB for over 30 years. Too bad you can’t understand what I was trying to say.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 06, 2019, 12:05:06 AM
You have a home in rancho mirage, no?

I'm in palm desert. We're 2niles apart.

I don't give a fuck what you call it "gave up" or whatever, I don't care for your disrespectful fucking attitude. And I won't tolerate it my fucking fat faced fucking punchable midget you little fucking bitch I will choke you to sleep and piss on your fucking face fat little disrespectful punk.



Translation:


"I don't take kindly to disrespect. Not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in line at Walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners...anywhere.

People talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

Spent many years in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most people here in the 'real world' aren't ready for what could happen...and run their mouths like the world is a make-believe cartoon. Despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying the bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

The guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. If you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day."

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 06, 2019, 12:39:38 AM


Translation:


"I don't take kindly to disrespect. Not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in line at Walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners...anywhere.

People talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

Spent many years in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most people here in the 'real world' aren't ready for what could happen...and run their mouths like the world is a make-believe cartoon. Despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying the bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

The guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. If you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day."



Poetry.  Probably belongs on the Statue of Liberty.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 06, 2019, 12:50:36 AM
I bet your kid is proud of you!!  Prison - heroin - “hustling” - damn man you should write parenting books.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 06, 2019, 01:14:22 AM
I bet your kid is proud of you!!  Prison - heroin - “hustling” - damn man you should write parenting books.

Kid(s) that is.

Btw, I can look you in the eye and tell you I'm the most knowledgeable "frequent" poster on the board, with the most experience. How many clients have you had? How many competed? How many won? How many have ifbb pro cards? How many powerlifters do you have that are CURRENT #1 in their weight class? How many HAVE BEEN #1 ?? That's clients AND customers. You claim my.gear is dirty? I don't know what I'm talking about? Their records say otherwise. You fucken wannabe punk bitch.  Give me $3k and maybe you'll win a show too.punk
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 06, 2019, 01:24:17 AM
Kid(s) that is.

Btw, I can look you in the eye and tell you I'm the most knowledgeable "frequent" poster on the board, with the most experience. How many clients have you had? How many competed? How many won? How many have ifbb pro cards? How many powerlifters do you have that are CURRENT #1 in their weight class? How many HAVE BEEN #1 ?? That's clients AND customers. You claim my.gear is dirty? I don't know what I'm talking about? Their records say otherwise. You fucken wannabe punk bitch.  Give me $3k and maybe you'll win a show too.punk


In my case if you want to brag, more than you in all categories as recent as the Tampa Pro and two that turned pro at Team Universe. On to MMA, I have a fighter that’s on an 8 fight win streak fighting for the Bellator Heavyweight Championship this weekend. I’ll be in his corner. I call him my brother because we’ve been together for 11 years and his son is my God son. He’s my family and best friend. Keep running your mouth
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 06, 2019, 01:32:52 AM
In my case if you want to brag, more than you in all categories as recent as the Tampa Pro and two that turned pro at Team Universe. On to MMA, I have a fighter that’s on an 8 fight win streak fighting for the Bellator Heavyweight Championship this weekend. I’ll be in his corner. I call him my brother because we’ve been together for 11 years and his son is my God son. He’s my family and best friend. Keep running your mouth

Mma? Gotta guy fighting/headlining on the Michel Waterson/Joanna card coming up. Local fella, went to school with my ex-fiance. You probably know him.

I don't give a fuck who you're "training", unlike you and the bums like you who ask who I'm training. You mean nothing to me. Unlike me to you. Fatboy.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 06, 2019, 01:43:44 AM
Mma? Gotta guy fighting/headlining on the Michel Waterson/Joanna card coming up. Local fella, went to school with my ex-fiance. You probably know him.

I don't give a fuck who you're "training", unlike you and the bums like you who ask who I'm training. You mean nothing to me. Unlike me to you. Fatboy.

Never heard of either of them
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 06, 2019, 01:50:49 AM
Mma? Gotta guy fighting/headlining on the Michel Waterson/Joanna card coming up. Local fella, went to school with my ex-fiance. You probably know him.

I don't give a fuck who you're "training", unlike you and the bums like you who ask who I'm training. You mean nothing to me. Unlike me to you. Fatboy.

He is training Cheick Ouedraugo

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 06, 2019, 01:53:58 AM
He is training Cheick Ouedraugo



Not fair...I lost my voice at this fight




My bonus paid my mortgage for the next 6 months after that fight....lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 06, 2019, 03:17:25 AM
I don't care.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 06, 2019, 04:54:54 AM
Kid(s) that is.

Btw, I can look you in the eye and tell you I'm the most knowledgeable "frequent" poster on the board, with the most experience. How many clients have you had? How many competed? How many won? How many have ifbb pro cards? How many powerlifters do you have that are CURRENT #1 in their weight class? How many HAVE BEEN #1 ?? That's clients AND customers. You claim my.gear is dirty? I don't know what I'm talking about? Their records say otherwise. You fucken wannabe punk bitch.  Give me $3k and maybe you'll win a show too.punk


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Ha ha ha

Seek help Boy.

3k To Help Someone & Yet You’ve Won Fuck All 🤔  ::)

The list of better physiques & more knowledgable posters than yourself
Is fairly long - You’re foolish & ignorant to dismiss them.





Title: Re: ESF
Post by: mazrim on September 06, 2019, 09:38:22 AM
I heard ESF has a blue ox named Babe.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 06, 2019, 09:42:13 AM
I don't care.

Yeah right.

Maybe you didnt read what coach wrote about that bonus. It paid his mortgage for 6 months!! He didn't put that money on the principal.

It was either a big bonus or coach has small payments.

So you care.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 06, 2019, 09:50:39 AM
Yeah right.

Maybe you didnt read what coach wrote about that bonus. It paid his mortgage for 6 months!! He didn't put that money on the principal.

It was either a big bonus or coach has small payments.

So you care.

Coach has a very affordable mortgage :)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 06, 2019, 12:01:26 PM
Why would a professional bodybuilder hire you for personal training ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 06, 2019, 12:03:18 PM
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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 06, 2019, 12:39:01 PM

That sounds like you're asking for a dick pic. All you gotta do is as Fatboy. Or head to PornHub, an ex.gf posted like 4-5 of our videos. Make sure you watch the whole thing...I'm sure that girl needs the cash.


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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 06, 2019, 12:49:13 PM
Uncle Creepy strikes again !! 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 06, 2019, 01:05:37 PM
Uncle Creepy strikes again !! 

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 06, 2019, 02:15:43 PM
Why would a professional bodybuilder hire you for personal training ?

Pretty much the same reason that Shaq hired me to teach him how to dunk. I mean come on dude you can’t tell me it doesn’t make sense to you... 😁
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 06, 2019, 02:16:43 PM
Uncle Creepy strikes again !! 

He evidently wears that title as a badge of honor???
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 06, 2019, 02:41:36 PM
Pretty much the same reason that Shaq hired me to teach him how to dunk. I mean come on dude you can’t tell me it doesn’t make sense to you... 😁
;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 06, 2019, 07:07:42 PM
;D

You laugh dude but guess what?? Guess what man ya wanna know something?? Well you ever heard of Bo Jackson??? Well just WHO do you think taught Bo all that Bo knows?? Me - that’s who!!
Trained Tyson before Cus did too. I know things man - been reading since I was like a kid so I know more than anybody else here.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 06, 2019, 07:30:47 PM
You laugh dude but guess what?? Guess what man ya wanna know something?? Well you ever heard of Bo Jackson??? Well just WHO do you think taught Bo all that Bo knows?? Me - that’s who!!
Trained Tyson before Cus did too. I know things man - been reading since I was like a kid so I know more than anybody else here.

Me too !!  lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 06, 2019, 08:22:10 PM
Me too !!  lol

That’s the perfect response. From now on when someone (cough ESF cough) makes an asinine post we can just respond

Yep - Me too
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 07, 2019, 09:57:09 AM
Got a PM from a guy that knows ESF personally.............f rom San Diego.

WOW,it seems that I am right he is a total fraud..................n o surprise to me but to the idiots who believe his shit...............TOLD YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 10:08:24 AM
Got a PM from a guy that knows ESF personally.............f rom San Diego.

WOW,it seems that I am right he is a total fraud..................n o surprise to me but to the idiots who believe his shit...............TOLD YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111  LOL  ;D

He called me fat  :'(

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2GeWrYJvQm/?igshid=wo0u11d85ttc
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 07, 2019, 10:19:12 AM
He called me fat  :'(

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2GeWrYJvQm/?igshid=wo0u11d85ttc
Ironic............I doubt if he`s ever been under 25 % bf in his life.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 07, 2019, 10:29:43 AM
Two men arguing over the internet who is more successful haha lol 😂😂😂
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2019, 10:36:28 AM
He called me fat  :'(

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2GeWrYJvQm/?igshid=wo0u11d85ttc

Is huge the new fat?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 07, 2019, 10:38:21 AM
He called me fat  :'(

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2GeWrYJvQm/?igshid=wo0u11d85ttc

Maybe he meant phat like dope.

Or maybe he thinks you're fat because you wont peel.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 07, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
He called me fat  :'(

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2GeWrYJvQm/?igshid=wo0u11d85ttc

When I looked at his IG long ago, he had a gunt bump over his lower abs and barely a 4 pack visible.  He preferred to photograph himself in the mirror from behind while hunching up his shoulder as though it made his traps look bigger.  (it didn't)

I remember thinking "this dude openly selling roids on IG and looking like THAT?"  I really couldnt tell what was dumber. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 10:46:18 AM
When I looked at his IG long ago, he had a gunt bump over his lower abs and barely a 4 pack visible.  He preferred to photograph himself in the mirror from behind while hunching up his shoulder as though it made his traps look bigger.  (it didn't)

I remember thinking "this dude openly selling roids on IG and looking like THAT?"  I really couldnt tell what was dumber. 

I looked at his IG once a while ago but can’t remember what his account is
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2019, 10:46:52 AM
When I looked at his IG long ago, he had a gunt bump over his lower abs and barely a 4 pack visible.  He preferred to photograph himself in the mirror from behind while hunching up his shoulder as though it made his traps look bigger.  (it didn't)

I remember thinking "this dude openly selling roids on IG and looking like THAT?"  I really couldnt tell what was dumber. 

Does someone have to look like they use steroids in order to sell them?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 07, 2019, 10:56:53 AM
Does someone have to look like they use steroids in order to sell them?
Why are you so adamant about defending this phony ?

Must have a mancrush on him or something.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2019, 11:05:06 AM
Why are you so adamant about defending this phony ?

Must have a mancrush on him or something.

Mine was a general statement and not intended to defend anyone. As for my having a man crush, are you calling me a heterosexual? :o Anyway, hypochondriacs are a bore.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 07, 2019, 11:15:49 AM
are you calling me a heterosexual?
No way in Hell !
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2019, 11:21:31 AM
No way in Hell !

Then, you might want to look up the definition of 'mancrush'.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Twaddle on September 07, 2019, 11:30:39 AM
Time Wescock, laying waste to ESF.   :o
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 07, 2019, 11:41:19 AM
Did anyone manage to find Eric's videos on PornHub?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2019, 03:05:43 PM
Did anyone manage to find Eric's videos on PornHub?

Didn't look - too little information provided.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 07, 2019, 03:17:09 PM
Did anyone manage to find Eric's videos on PornHub?

Didn't look - too little information provided.

50% chance it doesn't exist but he thought it made him sound cool at the time.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2019, 03:37:38 PM
50% chance it doesn't exist but he thought it made him sound cool at the time.

Some people have odd ideas about what's cool and what's not. If I was in a sex video on Porn Hub, I doubt I would brag about it. But then, if it showed off my humongous genitals....you just never know.  ;)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 04:08:24 PM
Some people have odd ideas about what's cool and what's not. If I was in a sex video on Porn Hub, I doubt I would brag about it. But then, if it showed off my humongous genitals....you just never know.  ;)

T..M..I
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 07, 2019, 04:27:23 PM
50% chance it doesn't exist but he thought it made him sound cool at the time.

"Sound cool"? You know how easy it is to post your own porn on PornHub? I didn't post them, an ex gf did (psycho ex-stripper who I didn't know was an ex-stripper at the time), and I never will. She's likely getting a check for $6.49 every quarter (I believe they pay quarterly when you get over a certian amount of views).
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
T..M..I

Don't believe everything you read. Sometimes, although rarely, I'm joking.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 07, 2019, 04:33:27 PM
Got a PM from a guy that knows ESF personally.............f rom San Diego.

WOW,it seems that I am right he is a total fraud..................n o surprise to me but to the idiots who believe his shit...............TOLD YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111  LOL  ;D

Funny, cuz I haven't lived in San Diego and haven't had contact with anybody I knew when I lived there since at least 03. And that person is an opiate junkie who lives off his insecure GFS and gets them addicted to the same drugs he uses so they don't leave and uses them to snuggle drugs in their vaginas because he can't cross the border and likely hasn't had a driver's license in 25yrs. Mooches off girls and "friends", including going into their wallets and pulling out 20's when he has the chance (and don't leave your Nubain bottle around him, he'll pull out a couple CC's and replace it with water.) I could go on and on and on.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: dexitrim on September 07, 2019, 04:53:44 PM
Funny, cuz I haven't lived in San Diego and haven't had contact with anybody I knew when I lived there since at least 03. And that person is an opiate junkie who lives off his insecure GFS and gets them addicted to the same drugs he uses so they don't leave and uses them to snuggle drugs in their vaginas because he can't cross the border and likely hasn't had a driver's license in 25yrs. Mooches off girls and "friends", including going into their wallets and pulling out 20's when he has the chance (and don't leave your Nubain bottle around him, he'll pull out a couple CC's and replace it with water.) I could go on and on and on.

Please, continue.....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Atlas pump on September 07, 2019, 05:37:58 PM
Are benzos safe when used in therapeutic doses?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 07, 2019, 05:46:30 PM
Are benzos safe when used in therapeutic doses?

Depends on the person I suppose. I've never had a problem with them. Use the same dose today that I did 19yrs ago. If I get an offer to buy'em at a good price I'll sell half my script or more and not take'em for 2-3wks till I get a refill and never had withdrawal.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 07, 2019, 05:49:48 PM
Please, continue.....

Would take me all day to type out. I'd have to do it on my laptop or desktop. Could write a small novel about the loser.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 07, 2019, 05:58:31 PM
Are benzos safe when used in therapeutic doses?

Are Vicodim and Oxy safe when used in low doses?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 07, 2019, 06:05:31 PM
Would take me all day to type out. I'd have to do it on my laptop or desktop. Could write a small novel about the loser.
He has written one about you.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 07, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
Are Vicodim and Oxy safe when used in low doses?

Most people will have some withdrawal after 3-4wks if daily use, especially at 6-7wks.

Keep use down to a week or 2 and you might be fine. Depends on the person. At 3wks and you miss a dose or 2 and if you feel some withdrawal it's best you stop then, while you still can, and do your best not to take them again, or at least not for a few months so you forget how they feel.

In some people they "fill a hole" they didn't know they needed/wanted/liked filling. I was clean of opiates for 14yrs and "forgot" I was an opiate addict before, that shit doesn't work.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 07, 2019, 06:10:10 PM
He has written one about you.

95% chance the person you're talking about doesn't exist, or else you'd say who it was and say what they said.

When's the last time they saw Eric? Or spoke to him?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 07, 2019, 06:12:17 PM
Most people will have some withdrawal after 3-4wks if daily use, especially at 6-7wks.

Keep use down to a week or 2 and you might be fine. Depends on the person. At 3wks and you miss a dose or 2 and if you feel some withdrawal it's best you stop then, while you still can, and do your best not to take them again, or at least not for a few months so you forget how they feel.

In some people they "fill a hole" they didn't know they needed/wanted/liked filling. I was clean of opiates for 14yrs and "forgot" I was an opiate addict before, that shit doesn't work.

Im not drinking anymore, at least for the past 3 or 4 months, but every now and then I miss having a buzz. I dont know the difference between Vico, Oxy or Soma. I decided to deadlift again and the soreness and discomfort is bad, even with moderate weights. The doctors can prescribe them for that type of pain at all?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 07, 2019, 08:13:11 PM
95% chance the person you're talking about doesn't exist, or else you'd say who it was and say what they said.

When's the last time they saw Eric? Or spoke to him?
He asked me not to disclose who it is.

I will paraphrase things he said and put them in this thread.

Against the rules to post personal messages.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 07, 2019, 08:23:37 PM
Please, continue.....

Don't worry he will
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 09:00:49 PM
Don't worry he will

lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 08, 2019, 06:53:25 AM
No basketball. I could dunk and shoot 3's all day, but dribbling and the rest? Forget it. Baseball, wrestling, and football were my thing... Could even play volleyball and tennis, burlt schedules meshed..

Anyways...how did that slip out? I probably told her, like i tell all the girls, that I don't care what you did before me (obviously I do.. well, I DID.. at least more back then... Now, yrs later I care less and less, because there's no way a girl could have as many partners as I have, unless she's a porn-star.. unfortunately, ran into a couple of those over the years.. like the Korean girl a couple yrs ago. "Why do you have 90k IG followers? And why do you have a 2nd IG page withn70k followers?" Says "oh, I'm a model".. oh, ok, I thought. She catches me counting out $13k in $1k stacks on her coffee table and doesn't think twice, other than saying "I respect your hustle. I don't care what you do, so long as it doesn't put my kids at risk (she had a 16b& 18yr old ...tgeb18yr old who she just bought a black Hellcat fo, for his birthday or graduation present... I forget, it was just after 4th of July '16)... Normally, girls flip out when then see me counting money, she didn't care.. shoulda been a red flag. Wasn't till about 6-8wks later  I put 2'n 2 together & realized she wasn't just a "model", she was a porn-star..... Just like a girls couple yrs earlier I thought was just a pretty, smart Filipina who was a pilot and engineer (aeronautical engineering degree.. saw it with my own eyes)... Girlnpaid for EVERYTHING when I drove down to San Diego every week. Drove a big black truck at the time, she paid for full tank of gas soon as i got there, Friday nights, as we went for all you can eat sushi, which she paid for . Paid for sushi the next day noon, AND dinner, as well as Sunday either lunch or dinner (that's at least 4 sushi dinners she paid for every weekend.... $70-90ea cuz she had her son with her... More on that later)... Girl had her son calling me "daddy" by day #2 (Saturday), after deepthroating my 8" dick the previous (1st) night. Shoulda been a red flag, nobody can deep-throat me without a few weeks of practice, at least.... Then, a few weeks later, maybe a month, i find out she's pregnant.... No way it ould be mind, with the amount of steroids I was on, and the kind of steroids (Tren... The forearm pic on my IG is taken at like 4am after fucking her brains out for an hour and going to her kitchen for some water. Pic was taken by her stove.).... End up taking her, and her son, to Planned Parenthood Christmas Eve morning for an abortion (merry fucken Xmas, eh??) & Taking her son down to Jack n the Box for breakfast and a walk around San diego.bay while she got whatever dudes baby who nutted inside her a month before me, vacuumed out (while she swore she hadn't fucked anybody for at least 6months before she met me... girl.... Willfull bliss I guess... She was super fucken pretty, Filipino girl, and a burlesque dancer, not a stripper....  And made a ton of $$$)..... Anyway, found out after getting called down to San Diego to her work to "escort" her tweaker baby daddy  (OH! btw, who she also happened to mention on the first night, they "used to do meth and fuck all day" AFTER I'd told her the same thing intell ALL the girls, I don't wanna hear ANYTHING About her previous sex-life/dudes... Wtf is with these dumb girls??? Like would they like to hear I've fucked 130+ girls the first night I met them???? Seriously, what.. the... Fuck..
?i go into these "dates" thinking "this is  pretty girl. Maybe I can be with her for years, if not the rest of my life" I never (well, rarely, maybe 5% of the time) think I'm just gonna meet the girl, fuck her and never seen her again..... I have kinda high standards, so all the girls ive slept with are more/less fucking gorgeous (usually Asian/Viet/Lao/Hmong/Chinese/Japanese/Cambodian, south American Mayan-looking Mexican/Guatamalan girls(my 2nd to last baby momma)... Brazilian.. Chilean girls with big dark eyes (my last baby momma)...... So every girl I fuck, I'm expecting to see the next day, next week, next month, etc.....so when I sat 120-130 girls, that's   120-130 disappointments.... Including the girls I have kids with, unfortunately 😔.including the girls(girl) id give my left arm for..,... I'm getting off track (been coming back to this post off n on for like an hour while cleaning. My kitchen lol)... The Filipino girl who was like I sugar Mama to me in San Diego fill my gas tank and find me sushi for fuck 6, 9, 12 months?, Anyways, I find out that how just one kid, her son that she lives with, she has three kids, including two other girls that were x I guess husband? I forget if she was actually married or not, but ex baby daddy actually got custody of her two daughters. how funked-up do it does a girl have to be to lose custody of her two daughters to her tweaker baby daddy? And this dude was obviously a fucking hardcore tweaker bomb loser. Skinny as fuck, talked like a tweaker, looked like a tweaker... just a fucking piece of shit (probably like how Wes looks/talks/acts).... And this bitch lost custody to him(? Wtf?). Even know when I met her she was always like clean-cut professional-looking, gorgeous. An added used drugs for I guess years at least a couple years if not two or three or four. All she would do is drink on weekends, but rarely even around me. However this dumb girl did let it slip out, like it seems they always do, that when she drinks she gets horny. And her letting me know that she would drink on the weekends..... obviously, that's not something that I would want to know, affter everything already told her what I DO NOT want to know, and knowing she already went out weekends and drank (which ment she likely fucked dudes every weekend... Again, willful bliss... Pretending I didn't already. Know she was a how).....

....anyways it's 3am, and I've been coming back to this post since like midnight in between taking out the trash and folding clothes. (I can't even remember the title of the thread.. all I know if I'm talking about lying, pretty/gorgeous girls... Oh, I guess over 35.. this bitch was like 3-4yrs younger than me at the time)...

.. that's enough for now.

Thanks Eric!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: tres_taco_combo on September 08, 2019, 01:16:09 PM
ESF and coach

while I have your attention - what is your opinion or research on grapefruit juice with making orals with improving bioavailability and giving you more bang for your buck?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 08, 2019, 01:34:13 PM
Thanks Eric!
The guy that messaged me said ESF has a fetish for fat,short,stocky,ugly Asian women.

His words,not mine.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2019, 03:50:49 PM
ESF and coach

while I have your attention - what is your opinion or research on grapefruit juice with making orals with improving bioavailability and giving you more bang for your buck?

Haven’t read it. I stay away from orals except about 8 weeks pre contest
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2019, 04:19:21 PM
Im not drinking anymore, at least for the past 3 or 4 months, but every now and then I miss having a buzz. I dont know the difference between Vico, Oxy or Soma. I decided to deadlift again and the soreness and discomfort is bad, even with moderate weights. The doctors can prescribe them for that type of pain at all?

Take an Aleve. Besides reducing your discomfort and soreness, it is an anti-inflamatory.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 08, 2019, 04:32:39 PM
Take an Aleve. Besides reducing your discomfort and soreness, it is an anti-inflamatory.

Tylenols better. Anti-inflammatory's will inhibit prostaglandins, which help "switch-on" the signal for the body to start the recovery/rebuilding process. Tylenol just blocks the pain signal in the brain. It's rougher on the liver, but the liver will fix itself, while things like ibuprofen is worse on kidneys, which don't fix themselves.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 08, 2019, 04:46:02 PM
ESF and coach

while I have your attention - what is your opinion or research on grapefruit juice with making orals with improving bioavailability and giving you more bang for your buck?

It depends on the drug. Gotta keep in mind grapefruit also potienates other drugs as well. Depends on if the particular steroid relies on P450 enzyme, just like how grapefruit works with oxycodone, but doesn't work with morphine (& "heroin" aka diacetylmorphine). I believe it works on ephedrine as well, as "grapefruit extract" was also an ingredient in the original Ultimate Orange (which I used to mix with grapefruit juice.. good ole days) There are other enzymes that affect bioavailability, like cyp-something ,etc.. Tagamet, DXM, and diphenhydramine also inhibit certian enzymes as well.

*Gotta be white grapefruit juice, btw.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2019, 05:04:54 PM
Tylenols better. Anti-inflammatory's will inhibit prostaglandins, which help "switch-on" the signal for the body to start the recovery/rebuilding process. Tylenol just blocks the pain signal in the brain. It's rougher on the liver, but the liver will fix itself, while things like ibuprofen is worse on kidneys, which don't fix themselves.

It is not so much what one takes for pain, it's how much and for how long they take it. Excess is bad for the body. With very few exceptions, when I've had pain I taken nothing for it. You can block or endure pain by putting it out of your mind. Hospital staff seem to be drug pushers at times. After my prostatectomy, I refused pain medication and I was fine. Granted, the first 24 hours you've got so much residual anesthesia in your system, that this alone helps block any pain.

What can be hard to endure is persistent pain. I cannot remember when the osteoarthritis in my hands didn't bother me. Taking an anti-inflammatory helps, but it also can wreck havoc with one's stomach. Tylenol might offer some relief, but our livers don't like it. So, IMO the best thing to do for pain is ignore it a best as you can. Everyone' pain threshold is different. This is why it can be difficult to offer advice on what to do for it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2019, 05:09:04 PM
It depends on the drug. Gotta keep in mind grapefruit also potienates other drugs as well. Depends on if the particular steroid relies on P450 enzyme, just like how grapefruit works with oxycodone, but doesn't work with morphine (& "heroin" aka diacetylmorphine). I believe it works on ephedrine as well, as "grapefruit extract" was also an ingredient in the original Ultimate Orange (which I used to mix with grapefruit juice.. good ole days) There are other enzymes that affect bioavailability, like cyp-something ,etc.. Tagamet, DXM, and diphenhydramine also inhibit certian enzymes as well.

*Gotta be white grapefruit juice, btw.

Grapefruit juice either pink or white is delicious. I avoid drinking it immediately following taking vitamins, meds and supplements.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 08, 2019, 05:22:19 PM
Take an Aleve. Besides reducing your discomfort and soreness, it is an anti-inflamatory.

I do use  200 mgs of Ibuprofen 3 or 4 times a week. Its good. At this point I dont like to train anymore. Go to LA Fitness and do 30 minutes of weights and 30 of cardio, but you know when youre not feeling anymore? Heavy load :(
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Maddy on September 08, 2019, 05:26:48 PM
He asked me not to disclose who it is.

I will paraphrase things he said and put them in this thread.

Against the rules to post personal messages.

alex23
should post
this information
himself
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Maddy on September 08, 2019, 05:39:18 PM
Im not drinking anymore, at least for the past 3 or 4 months, but every now and then I miss having a buzz. I dont know the difference between Vico, Oxy or Soma. I decided to deadlift again and the soreness and discomfort is bad, even with moderate weights. The doctors can prescribe them for that type of pain at all?

shizzo
your to
fat for
dead lifting
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 08, 2019, 05:46:58 PM
shizzo
your to
fat for
dead lifting


Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 08, 2019, 07:18:33 PM
alex23
should post
this information
himself

I don't know alex23.

There's only one person who Wes could be talking about, but I doubt it's even a real person. If it is, I can write a book on what kind of a junkie loser who takes everything and everybody down with him the dude is. What kind of person get his GFS addicted to the same drugs/opiates he's on? Or what kind of grown man, nearly 40yrs old, gets the 18yr old fella who gave him a job, drove 30mins to pic him up for work every morning so he could keep the job, gets the 18yr old addicted to opiates as well?

This bum gets kicked out by his gf and has to call the 18yr old guy to pick him up at midnight (while the guy is drunk on wine), to drive him to his only other "friend"s house where he slept on the guys couch even after the guy kicked him out, he'd sneak in at night just to sleep on the couch (his other friend was blind and didn't know he was there).

Oh, and the other house he lived in was with a gay guy who'd let bodybuilders and fighters live at his house in p.b. so he could look at them walk around the house naked....

And the parties the guy would strip at in Hillcrest letting dudes blow him one by one so he could afford his Valium, Klonopin, and Nubain.

After Eric moved from San Diego, this guy was fired from tge job within 2weeks after getting fired for stealing. The guy would close the store and just leave 3hrs early or not even show up to work to open the store Sundays till the afternoon.

After getting fired, he refused to get a job and lived off his gfs credit card who's mother in Brazil paid for. He'd dance for dudes naked for a little drug money, but mostly hisngfs mother's credit card paid for their rent (& he always had to live in nice apts in del Mar, la Jolla, and Point Loma) that credit card paid for their groceries which he'd buy online and have delivered. Credit card paid for the rental car they drive (even though he had no license and had warrants out for not attending his court-ordered anger management classes dot-dot-dot he had 13 fucking restraining orders against him from a 13 different women... Fucking 13!). That credit card got maxxed out and missed a rental car payment and was reported stolen. Just as he had his gf drive across into Mexico to stuff drugs for them both into her vagina while he waited at McDonald's across the border... The license plate scanner read the car as stolen and she was arrested and searched and ended up staying in a women's jail in Escondido or wherever it was. Then the dude asks for money to bail her out hahaha... Yea right, after he already stole how much Nubain from my.bottles? And how many $20bills from my wallet? Left my wallet in the car and douchebag steals cash while I'm pumping gas on the way to drop him off at home.

Oh, gives all his gfs herpes.

Oh, he shit himself at some girls house after doing a bunch of coke (was a big coke addict all through the 90s and gets big nosebleeds 4x a week). Couldn't make it to the toilet, so he locked the bathroom door at this girls house and jumped out the window and jumped over her fence and got his underwear caught on her fence while she was knocking on the door asking what's taking him so long (left streaks of shit all over her floor and sink before leaving), and lost the pants in the neighbors yard cuz they had a dog so he had to run home through back yards, naked from the waist down.

Oh, his "best friend" from Florida came to visit with his gf and this douchebag trys to fuck this dude's gf, and he ends up getting punched and knocked out cold in the lobby of World Gym and got his cheekbone busted open.

He's been banned from World Gym since 2004 (Brad kicked him out. He'd show up screaming because his ex gf was there and she had a restraining order against him, I believe she was #14).

He's been going bald for 20yrs and wears a backwards hat to cover it up. I doubt he has any hair left up top by now.

He can't fuck without 200mgs Viagra. He couldn't fuck without it 20yrs ago, I doubt it's gotten better since. Idiot would use deca year round with no test.

He'd site inject his calves, biceps, and chest with the SEO Eric would make for him.

Dude's a scumbag junkie would would steal credit cards and order sushi with them.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 08, 2019, 08:53:10 PM
Yep - me too
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: tommywishbone on September 08, 2019, 09:19:45 PM
What the fuck is this motherfuckingg thread about?  I want a five word summary! Five!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2019, 09:25:01 PM
What the fuck is this motherfuckingg thread about?  I want a five word summary! Five!

I can sum it up in 3 words.

Look...at...me!!!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 08, 2019, 10:12:51 PM
What the fuck is this motherfuckingg thread about?  I want a five word summary! Five!

The life experiences of ESFitness.

Tbone I listened to the Mark Bell podcast with/about you, it was great.  You've lived an incredible and interesting life (and several on here do as well) but it pales in comparison when measured against ESF's escapades.

Although in his defense I think his stories have grown over the years as other members recount them slightly differently.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 08, 2019, 10:20:57 PM
The life experiences of ESFitness.

Tbone I listened to the Mark Bell podcast with/about you, it was great.  You've lived an incredible and interesting life (and several on here do as well) but it pales in comparison when measured against ESF's escapades.

Although in his defense I think his stories have grown over the years as other members recount them slightly differently.

Hell man - there isn’t a folk hero in history who’s life was as full of as much shit as ESF.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 08, 2019, 10:31:37 PM
The life experiences of ESFitness.

Tbone I listened to the Mark Bell podcast with/about you, it was great.  You've lived an incredible and interesting life (and several on here do as well) but it pales in comparison when measured against ESF's escapades.

Although in his defense I think his stories have grown over the years as other members recount them slightly differently.


I have a good memory. #1

I have a tendency to "seen what happens" #2

So I tend to do things most ppl won't (standoff with SWAT team . 6-7-8g a week, etc...) #3

So I tend to recall stories about my life in way some can't, and a lot of people can't relate to what I've done, good AND bad, and a lot of what I say is more of a cautionary tale, rather than "bragging" like so many here like to attribute to me.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 08, 2019, 11:29:45 PM
You used 6-7-8 grams and think you have the knowledge to coach others? Dude you never looked even remotely close to what those amounts should have given you.
Knowledge would provide you with the ability to use very little and get as large as you want. I’m 5’10 and competed weighing mid 190’s (203 lbs once) shredded and weighed as much as 245 with abs fairly vascular. Like a dumbass I got up to close to 280 a couple of times when I was young and stupid. During ALL of that time I never got remotely close to 1/2 of your insane amounts (less than 1/4 of the retarded 8gm). Never used insulin at all.
You’ll reply like all wannabe “gurus” who have fcked up and admitted they’ve done something stupid personally and say - “I was experimenting on myself .......”  . The truth is that you had no clue how guys got so large and you did every little dumbass thing that you read on the internet.

Dude - if you were a man and just replied to this and admitted that maybe you don’t know as much as you have claimed to - I guarantee you that a lot of cats on here would respect you. That’s a hard fng thing to do though and takes a shit load of self awareness and courage.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 08, 2019, 11:33:47 PM
What the fuck is this motherfuckingg thread about?  I want a five word summary! Five!

Esf displaying his mental delusions.

HTH
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 08, 2019, 11:37:15 PM
I don't know alex23.

There's only one person who Wes could be talking about, but I doubt it's even a real person. If it is, I can write a book on what kind of a junkie loser who takes everything and everybody down with him the dude is. What kind of person get his GFS addicted to the same drugs/opiates he's on? Or what kind of grown man, nearly 40yrs old, gets the 18yr old fella who gave him a job, drove 30mins to pic him up for work every morning so he could keep the job, gets the 18yr old addicted to opiates as well?

This bum gets kicked out by his gf and has to call the 18yr old guy to pick him up at midnight (while the guy is drunk on wine), to drive him to his only other "friend"s house where he slept on the guys couch even after the guy kicked him out, he'd sneak in at night just to sleep on the couch (his other friend was blind and didn't know he was there).

Oh, and the other house he lived in was with a gay guy who'd let bodybuilders and fighters live at his house in p.b. so he could look at them walk around the house naked....

And the parties the guy would strip at in Hillcrest letting dudes blow him one by one so he could afford his Valium, Klonopin, and Nubain.

After Eric moved from San Diego, this guy was fired from tge job within 2weeks after getting fired for stealing. The guy would close the store and just leave 3hrs early or not even show up to work to open the store Sundays till the afternoon.

After getting fired, he refused to get a job and lived off his gfs credit card who's mother in Brazil paid for. He'd dance for dudes naked for a little drug money, but mostly hisngfs mother's credit card paid for their rent (& he always had to live in nice apts in del Mar, la Jolla, and Point Loma) that credit card paid for their groceries which he'd buy online and have delivered. Credit card paid for the rental car they drive (even though he had no license and had warrants out for not attending his court-ordered anger management classes dot-dot-dot he had 13 fucking restraining orders against him from a 13 different women... Fucking 13!). That credit card got maxxed out and missed a rental car payment and was reported stolen. Just as he had his gf drive across into Mexico to stuff drugs for them both into her vagina while he waited at McDonald's across the border... The license plate scanner read the car as stolen and she was arrested and searched and ended up staying in a women's jail in Escondido or wherever it was. Then the dude asks for money to bail her out hahaha... Yea right, after he already stole how much Nubain from my.bottles? And how many $20bills from my wallet? Left my wallet in the car and douchebag steals cash while I'm pumping gas on the way to drop him off at home.

Oh, gives all his gfs herpes.

Oh, he shit himself at some girls house after doing a bunch of coke (was a big coke addict all through the 90s and gets big nosebleeds 4x a week). Couldn't make it to the toilet, so he locked the bathroom door at this girls house and jumped out the window and jumped over her fence and got his underwear caught on her fence while she was knocking on the door asking what's taking him so long (left streaks of shit all over her floor and sink before leaving), and lost the pants in the neighbors yard cuz they had a dog so he had to run home through back yards, naked from the waist down.

Oh, his "best friend" from Florida came to visit with his gf and this douchebag trys to fuck this dude's gf, and he ends up getting punched and knocked out cold in the lobby of World Gym and got his cheekbone busted open.

He's been banned from World Gym since 2004 (Brad kicked him out. He'd show up screaming because his ex gf was there and she had a restraining order against him, I believe she was #14).

He's been going bald for 20yrs and wears a backwards hat to cover it up. I doubt he has any hair left up top by now.

He can't fuck without 200mgs Viagra. He couldn't fuck without it 20yrs ago, I doubt it's gotten better since. Idiot would use deca year round with no test.

He'd site inject his calves, biceps, and chest with the SEO Eric would make for him.

Dude's a scumbag junkie would would steal credit cards and order sushi with them.


Yes & you did your own knee surgery with a rusty spoon / some super glue / piano wire /
17 hot 27yr old Bitches Around him - Some heroin / home made deca & primo
All the while wide awake and doing an Irish jig with one arm tied behind his back
At 3am after a 35hr day & Training 127 clients 73 of which we’re either pro sports
Men or hollyweird “stars”.

 :o :o :o

Me Too. 👍🏻
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 08, 2019, 11:38:01 PM
You used 6-7-8 grams and think you have the knowledge to coach others? Dude you never looked even remotely close to what those amounts should have given you.
Knowledge would provide you with the ability to use very little and get as large as you want. I’m 5’10 and competed weighing mid 190’s (203 lbs once) shredded and weighed as much as 245 with abs fairly vascular. Like a dumbass I got up to close to 280 a couple of times when I was young and stupid. During ALL of that time I never got remotely close to 1/2 of your insane amounts (less than 1/4 of the retarded 8gm). Never used insulin at all.
You’ll reply like all wannabe “gurus” who have fcked up and admitted they’ve done something stupid personally and say - “I was experimenting on myself .......”  . The truth is that you had no clue how guys got so large and you did every little dumbass thing that you read on the internet.

Dude - if you were a man and just replied to this and admitted that maybe you don’t know as much as you have claimed to - I guarantee you that a lot of cats on here would respect you. That’s a hard fng thing to do though and takes a shit load of self awareness and courage.

Blahblah blah......you have no idea who I am or what I do... You believe everything you read that other people post about me.

You think I recommend all my clients to take six or seven or eight or twelve thousand mg of drugs a week?? Are you fucking retarded? I know very well how to get up to 280lbs. Personally I didn't have the drive to. I didn't have the drive to eat as much food as much protein as much calories excetera excetera excetera to get up to 280 or 300 or 320 or 340 fucking pounds. You think that because of what I did, with my physique and my genetics, that I somehow I don't understand what's needed or necessary for other people who may have better fucking genetics and I do to get to the point where they take home the big trophy? Can you fucking believe that I would be doing this for 19 + fucking years without that knowledge? You equate my personal results with the results of my clients and customers??? dot-dot-dot that's fucking foolish.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 08, 2019, 11:40:26 PM
I can sum it up in 3 words.

Look...at...me!!!

Yea, look at you, with your 44k posts.

Good luck selling your drugs, buddie
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2019, 11:52:55 PM
Yea, look at you, with your 44k posts.

Good luck selling your drugs, buddie

1. I’ve been on here for literally about 20 years.

2. I’ve never nor ever had the need to sell a drug in my life

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 12:55:27 AM
I have made every conclusion about you from YOUR posts alone. If my thought mimic others as you say they do then maybe you should pay attention and try to grow up and start on a path to success.

1. So - you never succeeded in building a physique because you are lazy. (In case you don’t know that’s EXACTLY what “lack of drive” means.
2. Doing this for 19 years doesn’t mean ANYTHING - tons of retards like you in every gym across America. Doing this for 19 years and still looking like you is 100% proof that you have no clue.
3. Coach is actually successful in the career that you’ve failed at. He works legitimately and is recognized by schools - pro athletes etc... and not just some low level BB pros. There isn’t a real school in the country that would put you on payroll and allow you on the field with the players. Coach has a home and family and he actually lives with and supports his kids.

You will never succeed because you are still too immature. You are old enough that you should have developed self awareness by now. But continue down your path and periodically make videos from hospital about how you had to tell them that you need far more drugs than they’ve given you. Or about how many wiggle bottles of milky they gave you. Just for Gods sake don’t make any more kids. It doesn’t take much to make a kid and retards can do it - but it would be great if you got some help and learned how to be a man.
You won’t ever learn so there is no point in trying to teach / help you.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 05:52:09 AM

I have a good memory. #1

I have a tendency to "seen what happens" #2

So I tend to do things most ppl won't (standoff with SWAT team . 6-7-8g a week, etc...) #3

So I tend to recall stories about my life in way some can't, and a lot of people can't relate to what I've done, good AND bad, and a lot of what I say is more of a cautionary tale, rather than "bragging" like so many here like to attribute to me.
Your buddy who sent me the PM said it was local cops that trapped you in a convienience store,not a SWAT team.

STOP LYING !! 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 09, 2019, 06:09:56 AM
If youre not a Pro on this game, youre not successful, unless youre an I.G. million followers guy or gal..

Someone posted that being a Top 6 Mr O means financial security, then why Nathan had to deal with gear?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 06:23:01 AM
Your buddy who sent me the PM said it was local cops that trapped you in a convienience store,not a SWAT team.

STOP LYING !! 

So basically - he got arrested.. 😁

In his insecure mind it sounds better to say that it was a stand off with SWAT.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 06:29:12 AM
So basically - he got arrested.. 😁

In his insecure mind it sounds better to say that it was a stand off with SWAT.
The way he put it,he fought off the 7th. cavalry !
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 09, 2019, 07:14:32 AM
I had a standoff with TWO SWAT-teams, the 7th AND 6th Cavalry and a Legion of Stormtroopers inside McDonalds!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 08:00:58 AM
I had a standoff with TWO SWAT-teams, the 7th AND 6th Cavalry and a Legion of Stormtroopers inside McDonalds!
Me too !  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 09:46:24 AM
Gotta love (or least really like it a lot, idk) the constant (and completely plethora..., maybe not to him but still a very high overuse) in every single response (over five words or less) that EFS (Eric) does with the parenthesis thing (you know, the "( )" symbols).  You know he is getting serious (more serious that usual) in conjuring up additional little tidbits (add ons) to supplement his stories with (in an effort to make it more believable, even though he can't seem to recall the facts in the parenthesis very accurately himself) but still it is in PARENTHESIS... 

I can just imagine every time he hits that first "(" key to start off a parenthesis statement, he scrunches his neck down, leans forward towards the computer screen, lowers his voice and says what he is typing in a low conspirator whisper...

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 09:53:04 AM
;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 09:53:45 AM
(Me too)   (!)      (  ;D    )

Fixed it for you with Eric speak...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 09, 2019, 09:54:56 AM
Gotta love (or least really like it a lot, idk) the constant (and completely plethora..., maybe not to him but still a very high overuse) in every single response (over five words or less) that EFS (Eric) does with the parenthesis thing (you know, the "( )" symbols).  You know he is getting serious (more serious that usual) in conjuring up additional little tidbits (add ons) to supplement his stories with (in an effort to make it more believable, even though he can't seem to recall the facts in the parenthesis very accurately himself) but still it is in PARENTHESIS... 

I can just imagine every time he hits that first "(" key to start off a parenthesis statement, he scrunches his neck down, leans forward towards the computer screen, lowers his voice and says what he is typing in a low conspirator whisper...



having a just-filtered 20cc bottle of 150mg/ml tren fall out of my bag and shattered on the sidewalk right in front of the storefront police station that was next door to my supplement store and having two cops walk out as i'm standing there looking at it in disbelief  Undecided shitty way to start that morning.

or..

getting off the trolley from Tijuana after smuggling my first 'cycle' of test amp's and realizing I don't know where to buy syringes... and walking around downtown san diego for Rite-Aides that carried syringes. I was 16.

or...

getting busted at the border a week later with a bottle of Clomid (the old pink skittles) and 15 3cc 21ga pins in my back pockets and playing dumb with customs "uh, I found them on the ground... figured they shouldn't go to waste...my pockets were full, that's why I put the clomid in my underware

or.....

getting robbed at gunpoint in a Tijuana restroom by a security guard after he caught me loading a syringe 2 months later. cop "we go to jail". me "ok, lets go. i'm only 17 you can't  arrest me.. they're just gonna bring me back to the border. now get that gun out of my face before I beat you with it"... then with my pants around my knees he searches my wallet for my ID (which he couldn't read) and takes $20. and he gave me back my syringe and the unopened amp of Sten (there were two in a box.. fucker tossed the one I was loading)

or........
picking up Klonopin for a friend one Friday night while in Tijuana for some Deca redi-jects and deciding to take a couple (2mg ea), after a margarita (I never drank), I didn't feel anything so I took a couple more (total of 8mg), next thing I know i'm sitting in a strip club with a stripper waving her hands in my face asking if i'm ok.. with a full bottle of warm Dos Equis on the table... then walking back to the border at 1am from Revolution and having no recollection of how I drove home or parralle parked my car at the end of the cul-de-sac the next morning..... then relaying the story to the guy I smuggled them for and him shitting a brick when I said I took 4-6 tabs plus a couple margaritas and a couple shots (I only had hundreds and the bar didn't want to break one for one drink. lol.. so I had a few and left a nice tip)..... what a mess.

or.......

doing a shot in my delt at the counter of the pharmacy and pulling out the needle right in front of an elderly couple buying Viagra and cholesterol meds, and having blood shoot out like a garden hose and me realizing i'd put an 18ga in my delt... and the horrified look on their faces when I laughed.

dropped off some orders at the pharm in TJ and had some time to kill while they were boxed up, so I figure i'd head over and hang out at a strip club (it was 11am on a sunday... sounded better than eating shrimp lobster and watching tourists in the hot sun), so I head out completely forgetting I put a bag of 90 proviron's in my pocket.

so I head down to the club where an ex-gf dances and I hang out for a while drinking cokes and puff on a big fat Davidoff Churchill... then a girl with thick thighs and big tits catches my eye.. so she comes over and sits on my lap and asks if I want a dance.. I say no (I've never paid for a dance... let alone given a stripper even a dollar... unless I dated them). she doesn't seem too concerned and hangs out with me for an hour ordering me free cokes and telling me how pretty my blue eyes are and squeezing my shoulders... after a while my legs were getting tired from this bitch sitting on my lap for an hour and I say I gotta go, so she gets up and I go piss and leave a $10 on the table for the drinks.

as i'm walking out she kisses me on the cheek and says 'bye'... which I thought was 'odd'.. maybe she recognized me with Alba (an ex gf who danced there)... maybe she was trying to make Alba jealous or something... whatever... so as soon as I walk out on the street I have 3 "cops" with pistols in my face and push me up against the wall and go into my pockets and pull out the bag, they look at it for 2 seconds and put it back in my pocket and turn me around and zip-tie my hands in front of me and lead me to a white truck with a topper on back with a couple doors on it (a 'paddy-wagon' truck). I ask them 'what the fuck do you cocksucking guys think youre doing?' and start to cause a scene to get other tourists attention. They say "we go to jail", I figure 'fine.. lets go. the naval base MP's will come through the jail tonight or tomorrow morning and get me out anyways along with the 18yr old military guys who got arrested that weekend.... so I hop in the back of the truck.. they still hadn't really "searched" me, didn't even take my wallet. So we drive for 2 mins and stop... the door pops up and I figure we're at the jail already.... nope.... we're at the ATM... so now they want me to get some cash... it's in peso's I hoped, because I didn't want to withdraw $4000 for these scumbags or whatever it was.. I had to withdraw cash twice, since I guess the first one wasn't enough.. I go to hand this weasel-faced inbred Mexican cop the money and he doesn't want it... instead they put me back in the truck...by this time I dunno what the fuck is going on... maybe we gotta go to another ATM.... well 2 mins later we stop again and they open the door and I get out and we're in some fucken alley... well this must be the jail now... nope... we're at the currency exchanger. lol... so I gotta give them the pesos and get American dollars... and give them the dollars... they just wanted the big bills.. no ones or change. lol.. I think the whole thing came out to like $45... they cut the zip-ties and go in their truck and left me standing there in the alley. I had to get a Taxi Libre back to the pharmacy where my biz partner thought the whole thing was the funniest thing he'd heard all week. dollars to doughnuts the 'cop' had no idea what the Proviron pills were, and probably didn't care.... and i'm pretty sure that stripper bitch set me up... must've felt the bag of pills in my pocket. stupid part was I wasn't even bringing them back myself, i'd just put'em in my pocket by accident. lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 09:57:55 AM
Yea, look at you, with your 44k posts.

Good luck selling your drugs, buddie

I've never heard of Coach selling drugs.  (Like you)  (on IG.)
Uses drugs?  Yes, Coach does, (Like you) but not 8 grams a week (Like you) and more importantly at least he LOOKS like he uses drugs.  (Unlike you)  (on IG).
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: tommywishbone on September 09, 2019, 09:59:36 AM
 :)

Thank you gentlemen for the enlightening replies.

I now fully understand we have a "special needs" individual here on getbig. I shall speak softly and not make any sudden moves.

DaveD, I appreciate the nice words.  Thank you sir.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 10:04:10 AM
having a just-filtered 20cc bottle of 150mg/ml tren fall out of my bag and shattered on the sidewalk right in front of the storefront police station that was next door to my supplement store and having two cops walk out as i'm standing there looking at it in disbelief  Undecided shitty way to start that morning.

or..

getting off the trolley from Tijuana after smuggling my first 'cycle' of test amp's and realizing I don't know where to buy syringes... and walking around downtown san diego for Rite-Aides that carried syringes. I was 16.

or...

getting busted at the border a week later with a bottle of Clomid (the old pink skittles) and 15 3cc 21ga pins in my back pockets and playing dumb with customs "uh, I found them on the ground... figured they shouldn't go to waste...my pockets were full, that's why I put the clomid in my underware

or.....

getting robbed at gunpoint in a Tijuana restroom by a security guard after he caught me loading a syringe 2 months later. cop "we go to jail". me "ok, lets go. i'm only 17 you can't  arrest me.. they're just gonna bring me back to the border. now get that gun out of my face before I beat you with it"... then with my pants around my knees he searches my wallet for my ID (which he couldn't read) and takes $20. and he gave me back my syringe and the unopened amp of Sten (there were two in a box.. fucker tossed the one I was loading)

or........
picking up Klonopin for a friend one Friday night while in Tijuana for some Deca redi-jects and deciding to take a couple (2mg ea), after a margarita (I never drank), I didn't feel anything so I took a couple more (total of 8mg), next thing I know i'm sitting in a strip club with a stripper waving her hands in my face asking if i'm ok.. with a full bottle of warm Dos Equis on the table... then walking back to the border at 1am from Revolution and having no recollection of how I drove home or parralle parked my car at the end of the cul-de-sac the next morning..... then relaying the story to the guy I smuggled them for and him shitting a brick when I said I took 4-6 tabs plus a couple margaritas and a couple shots (I only had hundreds and the bar didn't want to break one for one drink. lol.. so I had a few and left a nice tip)..... what a mess.

or.......

doing a shot in my delt at the counter of the pharmacy and pulling out the needle right in front of an elderly couple buying Viagra and cholesterol meds, and having blood shoot out like a garden hose and me realizing i'd put an 18ga in my delt... and the horrified look on their faces when I laughed.

dropped off some orders at the pharm in TJ and had some time to kill while they were boxed up, so I figure i'd head over and hang out at a strip club (it was 11am on a sunday... sounded better than eating shrimp lobster and watching tourists in the hot sun), so I head out completely forgetting I put a bag of 90 proviron's in my pocket.

so I head down to the club where an ex-gf dances and I hang out for a while drinking cokes and puff on a big fat Davidoff Churchill... then a girl with thick thighs and big tits catches my eye.. so she comes over and sits on my lap and asks if I want a dance.. I say no (I've never paid for a dance... let alone given a stripper even a dollar... unless I dated them). she doesn't seem too concerned and hangs out with me for an hour ordering me free cokes and telling me how pretty my blue eyes are and squeezing my shoulders... after a while my legs were getting tired from this bitch sitting on my lap for an hour and I say I gotta go, so she gets up and I go piss and leave a $10 on the table for the drinks.

as i'm walking out she kisses me on the cheek and says 'bye'... which I thought was 'odd'.. maybe she recognized me with Alba (an ex gf who danced there)... maybe she was trying to make Alba jealous or something... whatever... so as soon as I walk out on the street I have 3 "cops" with pistols in my face and push me up against the wall and go into my pockets and pull out the bag, they look at it for 2 seconds and put it back in my pocket and turn me around and zip-tie my hands in front of me and lead me to a white truck with a topper on back with a couple doors on it (a 'paddy-wagon' truck). I ask them 'what the fuck do you cocksucking guys think youre doing?' and start to cause a scene to get other tourists attention. They say "we go to jail", I figure 'fine.. lets go. the naval base MP's will come through the jail tonight or tomorrow morning and get me out anyways along with the 18yr old military guys who got arrested that weekend.... so I hop in the back of the truck.. they still hadn't really "searched" me, didn't even take my wallet. So we drive for 2 mins and stop... the door pops up and I figure we're at the jail already.... nope.... we're at the ATM... so now they want me to get some cash... it's in peso's I hoped, because I didn't want to withdraw $4000 for these scumbags or whatever it was.. I had to withdraw cash twice, since I guess the first one wasn't enough.. I go to hand this weasel-faced inbred Mexican cop the money and he doesn't want it... instead they put me back in the truck...by this time I dunno what the fuck is going on... maybe we gotta go to another ATM.... well 2 mins later we stop again and they open the door and I get out and we're in some fucken alley... well this must be the jail now... nope... we're at the currency exchanger. lol... so I gotta give them the pesos and get American dollars... and give them the dollars... they just wanted the big bills.. no ones or change. lol.. I think the whole thing came out to like $45... they cut the zip-ties and go in their truck and left me standing there in the alley. I had to get a Taxi Libre back to the pharmacy where my biz partner thought the whole thing was the funniest thing he'd heard all week. dollars to doughnuts the 'cop' had no idea what the Proviron pills were, and probably didn't care.... and i'm pretty sure that stripper bitch set me up... must've felt the bag of pills in my pocket. stupid part was I wasn't even bringing them back myself, i'd just put'em in my pocket by accident. lol


Hey don't forget the stories how he got his brother's fiance pregnant.  Or how he opened an airplane door in mid flight.  Or... or.... or.........
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 10:05:03 AM
:)

Thank you gentlemen for the enlightening replies.

I now fully understand we have a "special needs" individual here on getbig. I shall speak softly and not make any sudden moves.

DaveD, I appreciate the nice words.  Thank you sir.


Just a different version of SuckMyMuscle syndrome.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 09, 2019, 10:41:17 AM
You guys are pissed and 'enraged' with a funny and sincere poster, yet cut some slack to a Racist, Misogynist, 24/7 hater!?

Nice...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 11:00:07 AM
Fixed it for you with Eric speak...
Thanks !! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 11:04:35 AM
Shooting Deca into my deltoid at the pharmacy counter !  LOL  ;D

This guy`s too fucking much.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 09, 2019, 11:05:22 AM
You guys are pissed and 'enraged' with a funny and sincere poster, yet cut some slack to a Racist, Misogynist, 24/7 hater!?

Nice...

You know where you're at and so does Eric.

He dishes it right back and hes confident in his stories, so he isnt going to be chased off. I think he is probably a decent bro i'm real life, he's just lived a different life than 95% of the population
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 09, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
I've never heard of Coach selling drugs.  (Like you)  (on IG.)
Uses drugs?  Yes, Coach does, (Like you) but not 8 grams a week (Like you) and more importantly at least he LOOKS like he uses drugs.  (Unlike you)  (on IG).

His hair is far superior to that of Coach.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 09, 2019, 01:55:20 PM
You know where you're at and so does Eric.

He dishes it right back and hes confident in his stories, so he isnt going to be chased off. I think he is probably a decent bro i'm real life, he's just lived a different life than 95% of the population

Not everything has to be 100% accurate all the time. This is just internet. I would use his gear at any day LOL
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 09, 2019, 02:00:42 PM
You know where you're at and so does Eric.

He dishes it right back and hes confident in his stories, so he isnt going to be chased off. I think he is probably a decent bro i'm real life, he's just lived a different life than 95% of the population

The late Nasser almost punched me once, cause I called him a fag in a Restaurant. He was being a dick with a bunch of people. He was prolly 300 Pounds at that point. 22 inches arms easily. If you believe it or not, its up too you. Few days later, he gave me a CD and signed a few pictures and we squashed the beef
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
Hey don't forget the stories how he got his brother's fiance pregnant.  Or how he opened an airplane door in mid flight.  Or... or.... or.........

Brothers fiance?

Airplane door?

Exactly. People like you make up stories like this and idiots believe you.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 02:34:53 PM
Your buddy who sent me the PM said it was local cops that trapped you in a convienience store,not a SWAT team.

STOP LYING !! 

It's easily found on Google, you fucking junkie.

You just outed yourself with this "buddy". Dude doesn't exist. Pathetic attempt.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
Shooting Deca into my deltoid at the pharmacy counter !  LOL  ;D

This guy`s too fucking much.

You've obviously never been to a Tijuana pharmacy.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2019, 02:41:26 PM
What the fuck is this motherfuckingg thread about?  I want a five word summary! Five!

Nothing in particular, go it?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2019, 03:19:47 PM
I've never heard of Coach selling drugs.  (Like you)  (on IG.)
Uses drugs?  Yes, Coach does, (Like you) but not 8 grams a week (Like you) and more importantly at least he LOOKS like he uses drugs.  (Unlike you)  (on IG).

He seriously claimed he was doing 8grms per week? I’m calling bullshit. Lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 04:06:57 PM
It's easily found on Google, you fucking junkie.

You just outed yourself with this "buddy". Dude doesn't exist. Pathetic attempt.
I didn`t make this up,your friend said it in the PM he sent me.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 04:08:30 PM
You've obviously never been to a Tijuana pharmacy.
Can`t say that I have but if I did,I think I could have waited until I got home to take my shot rather than be an attention seeking whore in public just like you are on getbig.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 09, 2019, 04:12:11 PM
Can`t say that I have but if I did,I think I could have waited until I got home to take my shot rather than be an attention seeking whore in public just like you are on getbig.

Fucking Pathetic Pratt He Is
Why would he feel the need to do that in the pharmacy
In front of others - What to Show off / Impress other  ::)
Then SillyBollocks is on here Bragging about it  ::)
What an absolute Retard.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 04:23:58 PM
He seriously claimed he was doing 8grms per week? I’m calling bullshit. Lol
8 grams is the "sweet spot' !! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
Fucking Pathetic Pratt He Is
Why would he feel the need to do that in the pharmacy
In front of others - What to Show off / Impress other  ::)
Then SillyBollocks is on here Bragging about it  ::)
What an absolute Retard.
I honestly think the guy is plain old nutz !
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 09, 2019, 04:32:38 PM
I honestly think the guy is plain old nutz !

Likey that
And Delusional & Thinks Some are Impressed with his
Made up Nonsense
Probably makes him Feel Good about Himself
Sad Pathetic Twat.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 04:45:34 PM
I didn`t make this up,your friend said it in the PM he sent me.

Like I said, its easily found on google. Moron.

And you exposed yourself lying about this "friend"  because nobody in san Diego would even know any details.

It's easily found. It's pathetic how you, as a grown man, needs to make up this "friend" shit, to help push the naritive of what Eric's done and not done. Just pathetic.

Same with claiming "8grams" now. Why not just say 10grams if you're gonna lie about it?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
Fucking Pathetic Pratt He Is
Why would he feel the need to do that in the pharmacy
In front of others - What to Show off / Impress other  ::)
Then SillyBollocks is on here Bragging about it  ::)
What an absolute Retard.
Fucking Pathetic Pratt He Is
Why would he feel the need to do that in the pharmacy
In front of others - What to Show off / Impress other  ::)
Then SillyBollocks is on here Bragging about it  ::)
What an absolute Retard.

Can`t say that I have but if I did,I think I could have waited until I got home to take my shot rather than be an attention seeking whore in public just like you are on getbig.

Pathetic. You idiots talking about shit you obviously know nothing about.

Why wait till I got home?

Because it's in MEXICO, and that'd require smuggling steroids across the border.  EVERYBODY I san Diego goes across the border to vist a pharmacy and do their shots in the restroom or back room,

 and during that occasion, the back room was full of guys taping amps to their legs or doing injections in the mirror or I the restroom, so i just cracked the amp and did the delt shots of Primotestin (see what i mean? This cock sucker junkie Wes twists it around to say "deca"... Just lie after lie from that Swiss cheese brain junkie).

 When I started there was no customers. The last shot I was already loading with an 18ga pin and was in a hurry and didn't think the old couple were gonna see since they had their backs turned, so I ended up just injecting with that 18ga pin, and when I pulled it out, just as tge couple turned around and saw, blood shot out like a garden hose, all over the counter and floor. The couple didn't say anything. Just paid fir their blood pressure and cholesterol meds and left as I went behind the counter and grabbed some paper towels and spray bottle to clean it up.

You morons making a big deal about that is pathetic. It's something that happened and that's it.

Not to mention, the only "friend" Wes could possibly be talking about was therr as well and shot in his biceps just before me.

But that's not the"friend" Wes is talking about because Wes, an adult with a brain the looks like Swiss cheese from all the meth and coke he's done, is just lying, pathetically, about someone who doesn't exist. How long are you gonna keep up this lie? Just sad
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 09, 2019, 05:34:51 PM
Wes was a coke head? Not good
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 05:41:27 PM
OK dickhead,here are more things your friend PM`ed me:

Mega Synthol use by you
People at the gym laughed at you because you never wore shorts because your legs were non-existant
Fetish for ugly and fat short Asian broads
Says you lie or embellish about almost everything
Told me local cops,not SWAT
Says you never even made an attempt to compete
Pencil thin arms, no chest, back, or any body part that looked like he EVER touched a weight at all
He tried to overdose on a bottle of Advil, and cut off his finger while hiding from the local police in a hotel room
Every post I have read had been an outright lie or a complete embellishment
He makes his own steroids? Yes he has tried forever and does not know what he’s doing. He got infected from his own shit because he’s a fucking idiot
He`s a pathological liar.

All this and more was sent to me......believe it or not.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2019, 06:01:38 PM
I just want to hear more about this 8grm cycle...lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 06:06:18 PM
I just want to hear more about this 8grm cycle...lol
Me too !
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 06:36:57 PM
I just want to hear more about this 8grm cycle...lol

Me too!   Remember this is a dumb ass that claims to have juiced his head off just to win a tshirt in high school PE class. 

He was talking about it earlier.  He changes the number every post.   Motherfucka don't even look like he does anything.    Claims he could have gotten up to 300lbs but he didn't want to eat.  Still shot up mega cycles though.  Hell of a bunch of fake gear it must have been. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 06:45:37 PM
OK,just got another PM from ESFs friend...........now he`s saying that it wasn`t Synthol that ESF used,it was cooking oil because he couldn`t afford Synthol.

Oh yeah,he wants to know what pro bodybuilder ESF trained..........I`d like to know that myself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 07:11:02 PM
Me too !  ;D

Yep - me too
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 07:14:21 PM
Fucking Pathetic Pratt He Is
Why would he feel the need to do that in the pharmacy
In front of others - What to Show off / Impress other  ::)
Then SillyBollocks is on here Bragging about it  ::)
What an absolute Retard.

I am sure the non-hygienic little nasty just drew it up and jabbed it. Didn’t clean the area - just a cool gringo showing his intelligence
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 07:16:41 PM
Me too !

The retard doesn’t realize that BE is the one that stated “4-6-8 grams” earlier in THIS thread... now he calls out saying Coach is making shit up by quoting him???

Oh - almost forgot MEEE TOOO!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 07:27:59 PM
The retard doesn’t realize that BE is the one that stated “4-6-8 grams” earlier in THIS thread... now he calls out saying Coach is making shit up by quoting him???

Oh - almost forgot MEEE TOOO!
EXACTLY.......he stated it himself.

ME TOO ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: tommywishbone on September 09, 2019, 07:44:26 PM
Eight grams per week?  EIGHT GRAMS PER WEEK??

OK, you have my attention.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 07:46:09 PM
OK,just got another PM from ESFs friend...........now he`s saying that it wasn`t Synthol that ESF used,it was cooking oil because he couldn`t afford Synthol.

Oh yeah,he wants to know what pro bodybuilder ESF trained..........I`d like to know that myself.


Another lie.

The synthol was mct oil and 2% lidocaine, sterile fiktered., and the only dude you could be taking about watched me make it.

Keep on with the lies. You're making a fool of yourself
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 07:46:50 PM
Eight grams per week?  EIGHT GRAMS PER WEEK??

OK, you have my attention.

Another lie he's making up.

Pathetic
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 07:55:28 PM

Another lie.

The synthol was mct oil and 2% lidocaine, sterile fiktered., and the only dude you could be taking about watched me make it.

Keep on with the lies. You're making a fool of yourself
Hey,he said it not me.

You posted about the 6 grams on here yourself and somebody jokingly said 8 grams or something.

It`s right here in this thread stated by you.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 08:00:33 PM
Synthol and eight grams a week and still looks like a skinny fat natty?



BWAHAHAHA.   
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2019, 08:04:55 PM
Another lie he's making up.

Pathetic

See reply #53

“And yes, still have a bit of a viking beard. However it's trimmed down of it right now because I'll be needing to apply 2 gym within the next week or so to get a legit paycheck. So at least I know I'm actually in the gym have a reason to be in the gym or else I just don't feel like training anymore probably has something to do a lot with no jumping off of 7 grams of a week to zero and my testosterone crashing my estrogen going sky-high probably but anyways so yeah still got the beard, but it's probably going to have to go for a interview at least and then it'll come back once I start or working there LOL.. when I first grew and out at grew like within like 2 weeks I had a full beard so I'm not too worried about”

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=654647.50
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 09, 2019, 08:13:03 PM
Fucking guys an idiot !  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 08:49:11 PM
Another lie he's making up.

Pathetic

Dude it was YOU that stated 8 grams ya idiot!! You said it in THIS thread dumbass. You can’t even keep your lies straight kid.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 09:16:10 PM

I have a good memory. #1

I have a tendency to "seen what happens" #2

So I tend to do things most ppl won't (standoff with SWAT team . 6-7-8g a week, etc...) #3

So I tend to recall stories about my life in way some can't, and a lot of people can't relate to what I've done, good AND bad, and a lot of what I say is more of a cautionary tale, rather than "bragging" like so many here like to attribute to me.


Just to help you out man - plus like someone else posted above you stated 7 grams a week in an earlier post.
You are the gym retard that most gyms have - you get your ego stroked by the young kids and the guys who know absolutely nothing because you have basic knowledge and can regurgitate (that means throw up) information that you’ve read on the boards. The problem is that you are oblivious to the fact that the intelligent guys are too nice to let you know how much of a tool they see you as. You are so insecure that you’ve ruined your brain with drugs (early reply you talked about a bananas amount of gapapentin and clonidine). You try desperately to achieve some level of respect from others by trying to sound intelligent and knowledgeable about EVERYTHING - which is a clear sign of a sociopath.
Man - we are all fng with you and you may be a douche - but I seriously hope you get some help. I can’t imagine how miserable you have to be. You have kid (or multiple?) that deserve far better, but you have to get right before you can be a dad.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Dude it was YOU that stated 8 grams ya idiot!! You said it in THIS thread dumbass. You can’t even keep your lies straight kid.
See reply #53

“And yes, still have a bit of a viking beard. However it's trimmed down of it right now because I'll be needing to apply 2 gym within the next week or so to get a legit paycheck. So at least I know I'm actually in the gym have a reason to be in the gym or else I just don't feel like training anymore probably has something to do a lot with no jumping off of 7 grams of a week to zero and my testosterone crashing my estrogen going sky-high probably but anyways so yeah still got the beard, but it's probably going to have to go for a interview at least and then it'll come back once I start or working there LOL.. when I first grew and out at grew like within like 2 weeks I had a full beard so I'm not too worried about”

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=654647.50

Was on 7g for maybe 3-4wks, consisting of maybe 3 compounds. Likely 4-5 grams test and I recall a time when I was running just 4g test and 2g deca, buy that's. Lot of oil and injections and backed back off afterb4-6bweeks if i remember correctly.

You losers can lie all you want and try to push your naritive and YOUR version of my life, and lie and twist words all you want, you just look stupid. Just stupid.

You make it seem as like i was on 6g year round lol. You fucking morons.

Btw, have you ever done 6gs? Or 7? Have you ever coached anybody looking to take #1 in the nation in a powerlifting meet? (As well as a #2 in another lift), or xoaxhed anybody to a pro card? Man or woman, open, physique, bikini?

You win a show yourself? Good for you,but can you train other people? Figure out THEIR metabolisms and how to fix holes in their physiques?

Fuck you're stupid. Keep it up with the lies and misquotes and twisting of words. Means nothing to me.

Shit, look at this thread... 20+ pages of you idiots crying about me. A name on the internet who you actually care so much about you take time out of your day to search Eric's old comments. Pathetic. Just pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 09:28:53 PM

Just to help you out man - plus like someone else posted above you stated 7 grams a week in an earlier post.
You are the gym retard that most gyms have - you get your ego stroked by the young kids and the guys who know absolutely nothing because you have basic knowledge and can regurgitate (that means throw up) information that you’ve read on the boards. The problem is that you are oblivious to the fact that the intelligent guys are too nice to let you know how much of a tool they see you as. You are so insecure that you’ve ruined your brain with drugs (early reply you talked about a bananas amount of gapapentin and clonidine). You try desperately to achieve some level of respect from others by trying to sound intelligent and knowledgeable about EVERYTHING - which is a clear sign of a sociopath.
Man - we are all fng with you and you may be a douche - but I seriously hope you get some help. I can’t imagine how miserable you have to be. You have kid (or multiple?) that deserve far better, but you have to get right before you can be a dad.


Already addressed the "7gs".

Kids? I don't train kids. 90% of the ppl I train are maybe 3yrs younger than me or much older.

Basic knowledge? Regurgitate from the boards?

Sorry dude. I have 2 p.t. certs and a nutritionist cert (&TRX for that matter), & I've never used anything from these boards. What I "regurgitate" is from PubMed/MedLine or any of the endocrinology textbooks or pathology textbooks I have.

Keep on believing whatever you want... If you cNt see through the lies and whatever else a few people here want to paint me as, that's your problem, and I feel sorry for you.

*Btw, "bananas amounts gabapentin and clonidine"? Bwahahaha..

.... gabapentin does nothing, and the 800 3x a day I take which is supposed to work for my neck and back does nothing.

And .1 or .2mg clonidine, a fucking blood pressure medication that's been used for decades to supposedly produce more GH (Dan duchaines idea in the mid 90s)??? Blood pressure meds are supposed to "ruin a brain"??? Are you really THAT retarded and uneducated??? Fucking pathetic
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 09, 2019, 09:35:06 PM
Was on 7g for maybe 3-4wks, consisting of maybe 3 compounds. Likely 4-5 grams test and I recall a time when I was running just 4g test and 2g deca, buy that's. Lot of oil and injections and backed back off afterb4-6bweeks if i remember correctly.

You losers can lie all you want and try to push your naritive and YOUR version of my life, and lie and twist words all you want, you just look stupid. Just stupid.

You make it seem as like i was on 6g year round lol. You fucking morons.

Btw, have you ever done 6gs? Or 7? Have you ever coached anybody looking to take #1 in the nation in a powerlifting meet? (As well as a #2 in another lift), or xoaxhed anybody to a pro card? Man or woman, open, physique, bikini?

You win a show yourself? Good for you,but can you train other people? Figure out THEIR metabolisms and how to fix holes in their physiques?

Fuck you're stupid. Keep it up with the lies and misquotes and twisting of words. Means nothing to me.

Shit, look at this thread... 20+ pages of you idiots crying about me. A name on the internet who you actually care so much about you take time out of your day to search Eric's old comments. Pathetic. Just pathetic.


BWAHAHAHAHAH....    who's the pro you took keep taking credit for?     BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

"Means nothing to me"  Yet you keep replying with walls of text.   I noticed how your little parenthesis spree has been reduced dramatically.  (you care)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2019, 09:47:42 PM
Was on 7g for maybe 3-4wks, consisting of maybe 3 compounds. Likely 4-5 grams test and I recall a time when I was running just 4g test and 2g deca, buy that's. Lot of oil and injections and backed back off afterb4-6bweeks if i remember correctly.

You losers can lie all you want and try to push your naritive and YOUR version of my life, and lie and twist words all you want, you just look stupid. Just stupid.

You make it seem as like i was on 6g year round lol. You fucking morons.

Btw, have you ever done 6gs? Or 7? Have you ever coached anybody looking to take #1 in the nation in a powerlifting meet? (As well as a #2 in another lift), or xoaxhed anybody to a pro card? Man or woman, open, physique, bikini?

You win a show yourself? Good for you,but can you train other people? Figure out THEIR metabolisms and how to fix holes in their physiques?

Fuck you're stupid. Keep it up with the lies and misquotes and twisting of words. Means nothing to me.

Shit, look at this thread... 20+ pages of you idiots crying about me. A name on the internet who you actually care so much about you take time out of your day to search Eric's old comments. Pathetic. Just pathetic.

Dude, why in the fuck on God’s green earth would I or anyone with any knowledge at all ever attempt that much gear even for a week? It’s a complete waste of money and gear. I didn’t twist words. I copy and pasted your words verbatim.

As for if I’ve trained anyone? This is how I’ve made my living for the past 20+ years. As for if I’ve won any shows? I’ll let you figure it out....sleuth
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 09, 2019, 10:09:13 PM
Eric - do you take care of your kid or kids?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2019, 10:31:39 PM
Eric, you have seriously underestimated people’s knowledge on here. At least humble yourself just a little. I know I’ve talked a lot in the past but I’ve been able to back it up and personally I don’t think anyone thinks it’s cool about bragging about selling gear, being in prison, being a drug addict, etc. there are just something’s that don’t need to be said, at least in this context.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 09, 2019, 11:32:23 PM
Dude, why in the fuck on God’s green earth would I or anyone with any knowledge at all ever attempt that much gear even for a week? It’s a complete waste of money and gear. I didn’t twist words. I copy and pasted your words verbatim.

As for if I’ve trained anyone? This is how I’ve made my living for the past 20+ years. As for if I’ve won any shows? I’ll let you figure it out....sleuth

Remember idiot, you came after me. I couldn't give a fuck about you if I tried.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2019, 12:14:54 AM
Remember idiot, you came after me. I couldn't give a fuck about you if I tried.

Then I guess before you say “I didn’t do this or that” you should really either ask or check me diet👏
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 10, 2019, 07:44:21 AM
Remember idiot, you came after me. I couldn't give a fuck about you if I tried.

20 pages of bullshit drivel from you suggests otherwise.

What we know so far... you are an insecure personal trainer (with false teeth and a parenthesis addiction - which you are now self conscious of), advocating drug use and drug sales as though it is some kind of achievement (evident by your attempt to knock Coach with the self telling comment of wishing him luck selling his drugs),  admittedly that you can't even participate in a school PE day without juicing yourself to the gills (not surprisingly considering your questionable drug advice anyway like putting teenagers on insulin - your claim, which is something else I doubt really happen anyway), with a history (according to you) of extremely high incidents of health accidents, addiction, and hospitalization (when probably the only treatment you need is a decent psychiatrist), in a dead end job with no outlet for attention other than the internet.   After seeing your pics on IG a while back, there is no reason anyone would feel encouraged to take your advice or buy your drugs.  Obviously it hasn't worked for you (no matter what silly excuse you use to try to play it off).   It would be like getting slam dunk advice from Gary Coleman (or driving lessons from Stevie Wonder.)

Carry on (as I am sure you will) but at least one thing I have learned (from you I admit) is that PARENTHESIS ROCKS!!!(!!)!oneone(eleven)

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: XFACTOR on September 10, 2019, 07:59:47 AM
Was on 7g for maybe 3-4wks, consisting of maybe 3 compounds. Likely 4-5 grams test and I recall a time when I was running just 4g test and 2g deca, buy that's. Lot of oil and injections and backed back off afterb4-6bweeks if i remember correctly.

You losers can lie all you want and try to push your naritive and YOUR version of my life, and lie and twist words all you want, you just look stupid. Just stupid.

You make it seem as like i was on 6g year round lol. You fucking morons.

Btw, have you ever done 6gs? Or 7? Have you ever coached anybody looking to take #1 in the nation in a powerlifting meet? (As well as a #2 in another lift), or xoaxhed anybody to a pro card? Man or woman, open, physique, bikini?

You win a show yourself? Good for you,but can you train other people? Figure out THEIR metabolisms and how to fix holes in their physiques?

Fuck you're stupid. Keep it up with the lies and misquotes and twisting of words. Means nothing to me.

Shit, look at this thread... 20+ pages of you idiots crying about me. A name on the internet who you actually care so much about you take time out of your day to search Eric's old comments. Pathetic. Just pathetic.

What does being on 7 g’s of gear a week feel like? Composed of what compounds?  I’m curious do you feel like a god or sick? Wouldn’t ever go that route but I felt a little sick on anything over 1 g of test (week)and 80mgs of var a day. I’d be interested in hearing (from anyone) about high dose primo, NPP, or...??
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 10, 2019, 08:32:07 AM
His body couldn`t possibly use that amount of gear in an efficient manner.

As far as a 20 page thread goes,I did that for you so it would help to satisfy your craving for attention.

Thank me later! 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 10, 2019, 08:30:41 PM
Eric - hopefully you learned something from so many telling you basically the same thing. Focus on your kids and take some courses on being a father. That will benefit you far more than any bodybuilding knowledge that you think you have.
Nobody truly wishes you ill will. I sincerely like to see every person succeed and hope that you find your way.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2019, 10:00:13 PM
Eric - hopefully you learned something from so many telling you basically the same thing. Focus on your kids and take some courses on being a father. That will benefit you far more than any bodybuilding knowledge that you think you have.
Nobody truly wishes you ill will. I sincerely like to see every person succeed and hope that you find your way.

Good sound advice
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 11, 2019, 02:07:21 AM
Eric


Your body can handle an impressive amount of Gear.


You are among the select few that can handle such dosages.


You are Unique.


You are a Specimen.


You are truly a special breed.


Do not let the naysayers get to you.


They are merely jealous of your life, your stories and your dosages.


Who cares about raising a family when you can handle 10gs weekly.



Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 11, 2019, 07:15:04 AM
Who needs to be a PT when you using 10gs a week?  Owning your own personal pharmacy would be the most logical business step.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 11, 2019, 07:35:09 PM
What does being on 7 g’s of gear a week feel like? Composed of what compounds?  I’m curious do you feel like a god or sick? Wouldn’t ever go that route but I felt a little sick on anything over 1 g of test (week)and 80mgs of var a day. I’d be interested in hearing (from anyone) about high dose primo, NPP, or...??

Was only on 7g for a short period. Or even 6g for that matter. The 6g was just the common 4g test & 2g deca, because those were higher mg/ml & required less oil/injections. The 7g was the above plus orals (dbol or/and drol), once I got a steady source of methyltrienolone, the oral dose, or dose overall dropped significantly (methyltrienolone is measures in mcgs vs. mgs, so you're looking at 1/2-3/4-1mg/day vs 100mg/day dbol or 200-250mg/day anadrol... That knocks off 700-1400mg/wk, along with better results).

I never really felt "sick", it was more an issue of getting tired of doing injections and being sore all week and taking orals everyday.

The thing with using anything over 4g/wk is that everything "works" you get results from everything you do. The only variable is how much food you take in... how much protein you take in, because your body becomes a machine that burns kcals at a much higher rate.

Your body becomes a furnace which I suppose is good for your significant other in the winter 'cuz she'll cuddle up against you, but bad in the spring & fall, & especially summer. You'll be sleeping with the AC on, and a fan on you (& a ceiling fan if you have one)... all on 'Max', btw. Add or include Tren to that mix and you're changing your sheets & pillows every other day. Methyltrienolone doesn't tend to make you sweat as much as injectable tren ace or enan or hex (Para). Side note; methyltrienolone blows Tren ace away when it comes to adding size, and unlike Tren, where you can start at 225 @ 12% & 6wkz later be 225 @ 6%, with m-tren, you can go from 225 @ 12% & 6wks later be 235 @6% with 500-750mcg/day, compares to 100mg/day (or 50, or 75, or 150 for that matter...) Tren Ace, & with m-tren you still don't carry water, same as Tren b/c it doesn't aromatize.

* I'll continue this later. With a client atm
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 07:43:06 PM
Was only on 7g for a short period. Or even 6g for that matter. The 6g was just the common 4g test & 2g deca, because those were higher mg/ml & required less oil/injections. The 7g was the above plus orals (dbol or/and drol), once I got a steady source of methyltrienolone, the oral dose, or dose overall dropped significantly (methyltrienolone is measures in mcgs vs. mgs, so you're looking at 1/2-3/4-1mg/day vs 100mg/day dbol or 200-250mg/day anadrol... That knocks off 700-1400mg/wk, along with better results).

I never really felt "sick", it was more an issue of getting tired of doing injections and being sore all week and taking orals everyday.

The thing with using anything over 4g/wk is that everything "works" you get results from everything you do. The only variable is how much food you take in... how much protein you take in, because your body becomes a machine that burns kcals at a much higher rate.

Your body becomes a furnace which I suppose is good for your significant other in the winter 'cuz she'll cuddle up against you, but bad in the spring & fall, & especially summer. You'll be sleeping with the AC on, and a fan on you (& a ceiling fan if you have one)... all on 'Max', btw. Add or include Tren to that mix and you're changing your sheets & pillows every other day. Methyltrienolone doesn't tend to make you sweat as much as injectable tren ace or enan or hex (Para). Side note; methyltrienolone blows Tren ace away when it comes to adding size, and unlike Tren, where you can start at 225 @ 12% & 6wkz later be 225 @ 6%, with m-tren, you can go from 225 @ 12% & 6wks later be 235 @6% with 500-750mcg/day, compares to 100mg/day (or 50, or 75, or 150 for that matter...) Tren Ace, & with m-tren you still don't carry water, same as Tren b/c it doesn't aromatize.

* I'll continue this later. With a client atm

4, 6 or 7mg combined of anything is not common. Wtf are you talking about?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: XFACTOR on September 11, 2019, 07:50:53 PM
Was only on 7g for a short period. Or even 6g for that matter. The 6g was just the common 4g test & 2g deca, because those were higher mg/ml & required less oil/injections. The 7g was the above plus orals (dbol or/and drol), once I got a steady source of methyltrienolone, the oral dose, or dose overall dropped significantly (methyltrienolone is measures in mcgs vs. mgs, so you're looking at 1/2-3/4-1mg/day vs 100mg/day dbol or 200-250mg/day anadrol... That knocks off 700-1400mg/wk, along with better results).

I never really felt "sick", it was more an issue of getting tired of doing injections and being sore all week and taking orals everyday.

The thing with using anything over 4g/wk is that everything "works" you get results from everything you do. The only variable is how much food you take in... how much protein you take in, because your body becomes a machine that burns kcals at a much higher rate.

Your body becomes a furnace which I suppose is good for your significant other in the winter 'cuz she'll cuddle up against you, but bad in the spring & fall, & especially summer. You'll be sleeping with the AC on, and a fan on you (& a ceiling fan if you have one)... all on 'Max', btw. Add or include Tren to that mix and you're changing your sheets & pillows every other day. Methyltrienolone doesn't tend to make you sweat as much as injectable tren ace or enan or hex (Para). Side note; methyltrienolone blows Tren ace away when it comes to adding size, and unlike Tren, where you can start at 225 @ 12% & 6wkz later be 225 @ 6%, with m-tren, you can go from 225 @ 12% & 6wks later be 235 @6% with 500-750mcg/day, compares to 100mg/day (or 50, or 75, or 150 for that matter...) Tren Ace, & with m-tren you still don't carry water, same as Tren b/c it doesn't aromatize.

* I'll continue this later. With a client atm

How’s the oral tren? Really better than Ace? That stuff makes me look unreal but I can’t get a lot of sleep and it made me emotional and weird in my relationship. Does the oral tren have those sides?  Tren Ace to me, just isn’t worth looking like that. By far the most effective thing I’ve taken.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 11, 2019, 08:04:03 PM
4, 6 or 7mg combined of anything is not common. Wtf are you talking about?

He doesn’t know. Ask him about his kids - he doesn’t know them either.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 08:09:53 PM
He doesn’t know. Ask him about his kids - he doesn’t know them either.

I get what you’re saying but I try to keep kids out of the loop.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 11, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
I get what you’re saying but I try to keep kids out of the loop.

You are right dude - it’s just frustrating to see a young guy so focused on shit that doesn’t matter rather than the important stuff.
But - I am wrong for bringing that up and I apologize Eric. This is not the place for that.

I do hope that the young dudes on here don’t really think that most BB use preposterous amounts like him. I hope they look at your pics or Wes or many other guys on here and realize that YOU didn’t need 1/3 that amount and Eric hasn’t ever even been in the ballpark physique wise as you or Wes from the pics we’ve seen.
Sure there are some dumbasses that use tons - but back in the day “juiced to the gills meant a gram or maybe 2” -  those were the crazy amounts. Admittedly I tried once to creep up to about three - but after realizing that it wasn’t making me look like Dorian - I got my head straight and backed off.
The difference in guys like us and our generation - and guys in Eric’s generation and those with minds like his - is that we LISTENED to the older more experienced and more knowledgeable guys. We didn’t try so hard to be the guru.
It’s useless to keep this up though. He lacks the wisdom to have self awareness and will stay stuck in his rut. When I was a teenager and early 20’s I was a bit hardheaded and a know-it-all and got my ass handed to me in a business venture. I’ve been humbled many times in life and I am certain that I will be again.

One of the best things that can happen to a man is to be wrong - have the wisdom to realize it - and be humble enough to ask for help.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 12, 2019, 02:19:40 AM
You are right dude - it’s just frustrating to see a young guy so focused on shit that doesn’t matter rather than the important stuff.
But - I am wrong for bringing that up and I apologize Eric. This is not the place for that.

I do hope that the young dudes on here don’t really think that most BB use preposterous amounts like him. I hope they look at your pics or Wes or many other guys on here and realize that YOU didn’t need 1/3 that amount and Eric hasn’t ever even been in the ballpark physique wise as you or Wes from the pics we’ve seen.
Sure there are some dumbasses that use tons - but back in the day “juiced to the gills meant a gram or maybe 2” -  those were the crazy amounts. Admittedly I tried once to creep up to about three - but after realizing that it wasn’t making me look like Dorian - I got my head straight and backed off.
The difference in guys like us and our generation - and guys in Eric’s generation and those with minds like his - is that we LISTENED to the older more experienced and more knowledgeable guys. We didn’t try so hard to be the guru.
It’s useless to keep this up though. He lacks the wisdom to have self awareness and will stay stuck in his rut. When I was a teenager and early 20’s I was a bit hardheaded and a know-it-all and got my ass handed to me in a business venture. I’ve been humbled many times in life and I am certain that I will be again.

One of the best things that can happen to a man is to be wrong - have the wisdom to realize it - and be humble enough to ask for help.

It's past 1 a.m. and I barely glanced over this post and the 2 or 3 or whatever it was above it, and I'll say this, I don't talk much about my family on these boards because they are filled with mentally ill grown adults, and a whole bunch of fucking morons who believe what faceless names post about me on these little message boards, these public message boards.

It's like back in the day when you could go to the supermarket and they had attack board where you could post messages about garage sales and babysitters looking for babysitting jobs, or lost puppies, or a litter of puppies for sale, you could post whatever the fuck you want and nobody knew who the fuck you were and nobody gave a shit.

However on these boards you have a few mentally ill motherfukers who post things and embellish what other posters have posted and try to sway the ideas are perceptions of the people who read it opinions of people they don't know. And it's fucking pathetic.

I don't post about my kids. I don't post about my family. You don't know how many kids I have. You don't know their names, their ages, how many weeks of the month I have them. How many months of the year I have them. How many days of the week, month, or year I tuck them into bed, or what bedtime stories I read. You don't know how much homework I help them with, what subjects each one is good at, how many languages they speak, what sports they play, and you don't know what grades they get. And you never fucking will. You think it's cute to tell me to take a parenting class? You don't know a fucking thing about me. All you do is assume. You assume you know what I do as a father and you make these assumptions and post these assumptions on a fucking bodybuilding gossip and opinions message board in order to somehow discredit me as a human being, as a father, as somehow a trainer, and somehow as a bodybuilder, and it's fucking pathetic that you bring some shit like that up on a bodybuilding gossip and opinions message board/bulletin board in order to somehow elevate yourself using virtue signaling among a bunch of dolts who don't recognize what you're trying to do.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 12, 2019, 02:33:19 AM
You are right dude - it’s just frustrating to see a young guy so focused on shit that doesn’t matter rather than the important stuff.
But - I am wrong for bringing that up and I apologize Eric. This is not the place for that.

I do hope that the young dudes on here don’t really think that most BB use preposterous amounts like him. I hope they look at your pics or Wes or many other guys on here and realize that YOU didn’t need 1/3 that amount and Eric hasn’t ever even been in the ballpark physique wise as you or Wes from the pics we’ve seen.
Sure there are some dumbasses that use tons - but back in the day “juiced to the gills meant a gram or maybe 2” -  those were the crazy amounts. Admittedly I tried once to creep up to about three - but after realizing that it wasn’t making me look like Dorian - I got my head straight and backed off.
The difference in guys like us and our generation - and guys in Eric’s generation and those with minds like his - is that we LISTENED to the older more experienced and more knowledgeable guys. We didn’t try so hard to be the guru.
It’s useless to keep this up though. He lacks the wisdom to have self awareness and will stay stuck in his rut. When I was a teenager and early 20’s I was a bit hardheaded and a know-it-all and got my ass handed to me in a business venture. I’ve been humbled many times in life and I am certain that I will be again.

One of the best things that can happen to a man is to be wrong - have the wisdom to realize it - and be humble enough to ask for help.

Again, more virtue signaling. Barely skimmed through the post aside from the first sentence. Assuming I "focus" on this place "at all". I usually don't respond unless somebody texts me mentioning a comment here, and skim through other posts after I check in. You idiots scream and yell "ESF IS SELLING STEROIDS ON IG!!!!" Where? When? Since when? How many times?

And you morons either a) believe it. Or b) keep on announcing it on a message board hoping others believe you and form an opinion.

You handful of morons count on your screaming about "me" is heard and believed by however many others are reading your lame little posts. You TRY SO HARD to sway other people's beliefs about me, yet you know hardly anything about me, literally aside from what other, usually mentally ill, grown adults have said about me.

I don't know how to train people (children's to competitive athletes& bodybuilders, to seniors)? I don't know nutrition? I don't know pharmacology/compounding pharmacology? lol... I wouldn't be business for the past 19+ years if I didn't, would I?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 12, 2019, 09:29:24 AM
4, 6 or 7mg combined of anything is not common. Wtf are you talking about?

It is for Eric.  Didn't you know?  He had his own personal pharmacy doling out massive amounts that he injected at the counter in his delts.

Don't you dare tell me that 7 grams isn't the finishing touch.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 11:05:25 AM
It is for Eric.  Didn't you know?  He had his own personal pharmacy doling out massive amounts that he injected at the counter in his delts.

Don't you dare tell me that 7 grams isn't the finishing touch.

My correction is that I meant grms. But yeah, he’s superhuman
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 12, 2019, 11:12:37 AM
It's past 1 a.m. and I barely glanced over this post and the 2 or 3 or whatever it was above it, and I'll say this, I don't talk much about my family on these boards because they are filled with mentally ill grown adults, and a whole bunch of fucking morons who believe what faceless names post about me on these little message boards, these public message boards.

It's like back in the day when you could go to the supermarket and they had attack board where you could post messages about garage sales and babysitters looking for babysitting jobs, or lost puppies, or a litter of puppies for sale, you could post whatever the fuck you want and nobody knew who the fuck you were and nobody gave a shit.

However on these boards you have a few mentally ill motherfukers who post things and embellish what other posters have posted and try to sway the ideas are perceptions of the people who read it opinions of people they don't know. And it's fucking pathetic.

I don't post about my kids. I don't post about my family. You don't know how many kids I have. You don't know their names, their ages, how many weeks of the month I have them. How many months of the year I have them. How many days of the week, month, or year I tuck them into bed, or what bedtime stories I read. You don't know how much homework I help them with, what subjects each one is good at, how many languages they speak, what sports they play, and you don't know what grades they get. And you never fucking will. You think it's cute to tell me to take a parenting class? You don't know a fucking thing about me. All you do is assume. You assume you know what I do as a father and you make these assumptions and post these assumptions on a fucking bodybuilding gossip and opinions message board in order to somehow discredit me as a human being, as a father, as somehow a trainer, and somehow as a bodybuilder, and it's fucking pathetic that you bring some shit like that up on a bodybuilding gossip and opinions message board/bulletin board in order to somehow elevate yourself using virtue signaling among a bunch of dolts who don't recognize what you're trying to do.

What else can expect? He's a Martian and you are human.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 12, 2019, 11:18:28 AM
What else can expect? He's a Martian and you are human.

Marvin Martian and ESFitness have a conversation.



Looks like ESFitness got the last laugh after all.(whilst injecting 12g)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 12, 2019, 12:39:24 PM
Marvin Martian and ESFitness have a conversation.



Looks like ESFitness got the last laugh after all.(whilst injecting 12g)

You sum bitch !! You outed me!! 😬

Just watched a TZ marathon about a month or two ago. That was one of the episodes.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 12, 2019, 12:44:54 PM
What else can expect? He's a Martian and you are human.

Or maybe I am from Alpha Centauri and simply posing as a Martian🤔. Or MAYBE my name isn’t Marvin at all and I am just a man showing his immature side here🤔

Nope - you are correct sir. I am in fact a Martian and my name IS Marvin. They (humans) actually created a cartoon based on me.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 12, 2019, 06:27:45 PM
It is for Eric.  Didn't you know?  He had his own personal pharmacy doling out massive amounts that he injected at the counter in his delts.

Don't you dare tell me that 7 grams isn't the finishing touch.

Rarely injected at the counter. All the rubbing alcohol was in the back room. You've obviously never been to. Tijuana pharmacy.

Wasn't personal. Was 1/3
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 12, 2019, 07:00:48 PM
Or maybe I am from Alpha Centauri and simply posing as a Martian🤔. Or MAYBE my name isn’t Marvin at all and I am just a man showing his immature side here🤔

Nope - you are correct sir. I am in fact a Martian and my name IS Marvin. They (humans) actually created a cartoon based on me.

Yes, I know there is, which is why I previously posted a photo of your cartoon character. Here's another:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0074/9807/2179/products/Martian_and_Dog_Logo_1065x.jpg?v=1543093730)

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 13, 2019, 09:17:22 AM
Or maybe I am from Alpha Centauri and simply posing as a Martian🤔. Or MAYBE my name isn’t Marvin at all and I am just a man showing his immature side here🤔

Nope - you are correct sir. I am in fact a Martian and my name IS Marvin. They (humans) actually created a cartoon based on me.

as an alien, how do you view the socio-cultural exchanges and interactions between different users on this forum?
Please provide your answer based on a high level of abstraction.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2019, 10:21:36 AM
I want some perspective from a Martian as well


What do you think of current USA and what do you think of the state of Sweden, Europe as a whole and what do you think of humans in general?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 13, 2019, 10:25:45 AM
as an alien, how do you view the socio-cultural exchanges and interactions between different users on this forum?
Please provide your answer based on a high level of abstraction.

Bunch of big dummies arguing with fatty fat fats and stupid frumptah-heads.

Honestly I traveled here initially to eradicate the planet with my Q-36 Space Modulator. However after finding this forum and the vast array of inter-special humans I decided to observe and intermingle for a bit. I believe it is too early for me to give my opinion on this topic but I have learned much from you beings. Currently I am in what I can best describe in your primitive language as an intergalactic “go to meeting” so I cannot take the time to truly delve into the subject matter of your question.
For now I will grant your planet reprieve from annihilation - but please continue to entertain me with your simplistic banter lest I decide to utilize my weaponry and move on to the next warm rock.  
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 13, 2019, 10:27:23 AM
I want some perspective from a Martian as well


What do you think of current USA and what do you think of the state of Sweden, Europe as a whole and what do you think of humans in general?


To you sir - I simply say that I do like the large hips and buttocks! The female of your species are most intriguing to me and I find myself viewing the pictures you post with an eager fascination.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 13, 2019, 10:31:06 AM
Me too !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2019, 11:56:52 AM
Me too !!


(https://i.4pcdn.org/tv/1466735811948.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 13, 2019, 12:24:39 PM
(https://i.4pcdn.org/tv/1466735811948.jpg)

That is what we call a Martian Munchable.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 14, 2019, 09:00:07 AM
Eric, do you have your own gym or do you take clients to a local gym ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 14, 2019, 11:54:00 AM
Bunch of big dummies arguing with fatty fat fats and stupid frumptah-heads.

Honestly I traveled here initially to eradicate the planet with my Q-36 Space Modulator. However after finding this forum and the vast array of inter-special humans I decided to observe and intermingle for a bit. I believe it is too early for me to give my opinion on this topic but I have learned much from you beings. Currently I am in what I can best describe in your primitive language as an intergalactic “go to meeting” so I cannot take the time to truly delve into the subject matter of your question.
For now I will grant your planet reprieve from annihilation - but please continue to entertain me with your simplistic banter lest I decide to utilize my weaponry and move on to the next warm rock.  


This is a very diplomatic answer. I am right in concluding that Martians tend to have some degree of diplomacy? Or, are you an exception?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 14, 2019, 11:55:27 AM
That is what we call a Martian Munchable.

Martians are not unlike many humans in this respect.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 14, 2019, 12:11:46 PM
Martians are not unlike many humans in this respect.

As long as it’s a female that you’re munching
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 14, 2019, 12:16:04 PM
Eric, do you have your own gym or do you take clients to a local gym ?

CLIENTS

(https://www.javatpoint.com/fullformpages/images/lmao.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 14, 2019, 12:18:01 PM
As long as it’s a female that you’re munching
A foreign concept for Prime !  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 14, 2019, 10:27:03 PM
Eric, do you have your own gym or do you take clients to a local gym ?



Ran a gym for a while, brokered the sale to a former friend of mine... Found out he #1 was a pedophile, and #2 suffered from CTE (not necessarily in that order) & left that gym, now do independent training & train whomever wherever, all cash coming to me.
Title: Re: ESF congrats Brandon Curry.. Hadi was robbed
Post by: ESFitness on September 14, 2019, 10:38:50 PM
Robbed.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 15, 2019, 07:20:32 AM

Ran a gym for a while, brokered the sale to a former friend of mine... Found out he #1 was a pedophile, and #2 suffered from CTE (not necessarily in that order) & left that gym, now do independent training & train whomever wherever, all cash coming to me.

So what you are saying is that no you have never owned a gym.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 15, 2019, 07:21:35 AM
It's past 1 a.m. and I barely glanced over this post and the 2 or 3 or whatever it was above it, and I'll say this, I don't talk much about my family on these boards because they are filled with mentally ill grown adults, and a whole bunch of fucking morons who believe what faceless names post about me on these little message boards, these public message boards.

It's like back in the day when you could go to the supermarket and they had attack board where you could post messages about garage sales and babysitters looking for babysitting jobs, or lost puppies, or a litter of puppies for sale, you could post whatever the fuck you want and nobody knew who the fuck you were and nobody gave a shit.

However on these boards you have a few mentally ill motherfukers who post things and embellish what other posters have posted and try to sway the ideas are perceptions of the people who read it opinions of people they don't know. And it's fucking pathetic.

I don't post about my kids. I don't post about my family. You don't know how many kids I have. You don't know their names, their ages, how many weeks of the month I have them. How many months of the year I have them. How many days of the week, month, or year I tuck them into bed, or what bedtime stories I read. You don't know how much homework I help them with, what subjects each one is good at, how many languages they speak, what sports they play, and you don't know what grades they get. And you never fucking will. You think it's cute to tell me to take a parenting class? You don't know a fucking thing about me. All you do is assume. You assume you know what I do as a father and you make these assumptions and post these assumptions on a fucking bodybuilding gossip and opinions message board in order to somehow discredit me as a human being, as a father, as somehow a trainer, and somehow as a bodybuilder, and it's fucking pathetic that you bring some shit like that up on a bodybuilding gossip and opinions message board/bulletin board in order to somehow elevate yourself using virtue signaling among a bunch of dolts who don't recognize what you're trying to do.

You’re right I don’t know how many nights you spend with them but I spent EVERY night with mine.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 15, 2019, 07:22:35 AM

Ran a gym for a while, brokered the sale to a former friend of mine... Found out he #1 was a pedophile, and #2 suffered from CTE (not necessarily in that order) & left that gym, now do independent training & train whomever wherever, all cash coming to me.

do you have a page on instagram or a web page of clients before and after pics?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 15, 2019, 07:42:02 AM

Ran a gym for a while, brokered the sale to a former friend of mine... Found out he #1 was a pedophile, and #2 suffered from CTE (not necessarily in that order) & left that gym, now do independent training & train whomever wherever, all cash coming to me.

Me too.  Or at least I did until the client of mine I took pro placed ahead of the guy that was sponsored by the Mexican cartel (he was a dickhead, even his family said so).
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 15, 2019, 09:02:58 AM

Ran a gym for a while, brokered the sale to a former friend of mine... Found out he #1 was a pedophile, and #2 suffered from CTE (not necessarily in that order) & left that gym, now do independent training & train whomever wherever, all cash coming to me.

One question. Most gyms require a membership and almost all will charge people to use the facility at each visit. How is this negotiated between you, the gym and your client?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 15, 2019, 09:23:15 AM
I have so much info on ESF from his friend that it isn`t even funny !

You couldn`t make this shit up...............but Eric could !!  LOL   ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 15, 2019, 10:11:01 AM
I have so much info on ESF from his friend that it isn`t even funny !

You couldn`t make this shit up...............but Eric could !!  LOL   ;D
Are his stories true?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 15, 2019, 10:21:27 AM
Are his stories true?
Most of them are outright lies,and the few that are actually true are extremely embellished.

This comes from 2 different people that know him.............it was one person,now it`s coming from another person that knows him as well.

I`ll be lifting the veil off of this fraud in increments very soon
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 15, 2019, 01:42:52 PM
Most of them are outright lies,and the few that are actually true are extremely embellished.

This comes from 2 different people that know him.............it was one person,now it`s coming from another person that knows him as well.

I`ll be lifting the veil off of this fraud in increments very soon

Wes
He’s a baffoon & a liar / exaggerator
Remember “Be There / UK Jeff”  Was Exposing Him also.

Just seems to be a loud mouth / braggart with Serious Inferiority issues.

Occasionally he’s sensible & Post the odd decent Thing, maybe he’s a Gimmick
Account / wind up Merchant.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 15, 2019, 01:45:59 PM
I agree,but no he`s not a gimmick............sadly enough he believes his own drivel !  :(
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 15, 2019, 01:57:39 PM
I agree,but no he`s not a gimmick............sadly enough he believes his own drivel !  :(

If you are correct & he does believe his own nonsense - Then it’s kinda sad
And he def needs to get a grip / life / Help.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 15, 2019, 08:15:10 PM
Muthafckr got quiet didn’t he?? 😁 Wes put the fear of reality in ole ESF. I have known compulsive liars like him and every single one of them has been so incredibly insecure. I know we all pick on the kid but I really wish he’d get some help before he gets high one night and hurts himself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 15, 2019, 08:40:28 PM
Muthafckr got quiet didn’t he?? 😁 Wes put the fear of reality in ole ESF. I have known compulsive liars like him and every single one of them has been so incredibly insecure. I know we all pick on the kid but I really wish he’d get some help before he gets high one night and hurts himself.



Naw, he just busy working 102 hours in three days.  He'll be on here to tell us that shortly.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2019, 11:46:31 PM

Naw, he just busy working 102 hours in three days.  He'll be on here to tell us that shortly.

Dudes an OG Hustler.  Don't hate the game Lurker......
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 15, 2019, 11:51:39 PM

Naw, he just busy working 102 hours in three days.  He'll be on here to tell us that shortly.

Don't knock him.

He is beastin' 25/8.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 16, 2019, 05:09:15 PM
Wes
He’s a baffoon & a liar / exaggerator
Remember “Be There / UK Jeff”  Was Exposing Him also.

Just seems to be a loud mouth / braggart with Serious Inferiority issues.

Occasionally he’s sensible & Post the odd decent Thing, maybe he’s a Gimmick
Account / wind up Merchant.


Exposing what? Exactly?

Loudmouth? Bwahahaha you really don't know me, you believe, and you want to believe the naritive other socially enept adults with Asperger's post about me here. You know absolutely nothing.

Muthafckr got quiet didn’t he?? 😁 Wes put the fear of reality in ole ESF. I have known compulsive liars like him and every single one of them has been so incredibly insecure. I know we all pick on the kid but I really wish he’d get some help before he gets high one night and hurts himself.


Got quiet? Sorry, I have shit to do in real life.

Wes putting fear in anything is laughable.

And I haven't been "high" in years. You have any idea how much shit it'd take to get me "high"? I'd have to shoot at least $80 worth of heroin in one shot. And after a couple days of 5 $80 shots, I'd likely need $100 shots... Each time.

So once again, you know nothing more than the stories the other incels like to make up about me. Pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 16, 2019, 05:27:53 PM


I`ll be lifting the veil off of this fraud in increments very soon


(https://media1.giphy.com/media/LFF5plmBBOOBy/source.gif)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: che on September 16, 2019, 06:37:07 PM

I`ll be lifting the veil off of this fraud in increments very soon


(http://whitetrash.net/media/images/7/4188-boobs_028.gif)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 16, 2019, 06:43:58 PM
Exposing what? Exactly?

Loudmouth? Bwahahaha you really don't know me, you believe, and you want to believe the naritive other socially enept adults with Asperger's post about me here. You know absolutely nothing.

Got quiet? Sorry, I have shit to do in real life.

Wes putting fear in anything is laughable.

And I haven't been "high" in years. You have any idea how much shit it'd take to get me "high"? I'd have to shoot at least $80 worth of heroin in one shot. And after a couple days of 5 $80 shots, I'd likely need $100 shots... Each time.

So once again, you know nothing more than the stories the other incels like to make up about me. Pathetic.
I figuredit would take at least 120K in one shot to get you high !!  LOL  😁
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 16, 2019, 07:25:20 PM
And that Eric loser never trained anyone!!!! He was a laughing stock. People felt bad for him! He never lifted weights... just drugs and shooting oil into his body parts. Everyone knew, not because it was so obvious, but because he would go around and tell everyone! Fucked up kid! Personal trainer my ass. All he knows about is recreational drugs, because he's overdosed on everything. Even Advil when he could not get anything else. That was the last call I got from him years back. He always had weird issues going on. Some gay shit with his dad as well. I mean, he had no filter. Would tell the craziest shit, true or false to anyone who would listen. Like I said, we pretty much ran his ass out of San Diego years ago. He was about to get his ass kicked by quite a few people with that mouth of his. All of us serious bodybuilders down here could not stand his ass in the gym. Did nothing but talk shit! Never lifted a weight around us either. He had no muscle at all! Needless to say, he did not last long. It's sad he's back to being an idiot back on the boards. I would think that since he is older now he'd be wiser. Sad. He's nothing but a lier. Mark my words though, that guy will end up in jail again, or a fatal overdose. Just a matter of time. Wait and see! Cheers.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: WalterWhite on September 16, 2019, 07:43:36 PM
And that Eric loser never trained anyone!!!! He was a laughing stock. People felt bad for him! He never lifted weights... just drugs and shooting oil into his body parts. Everyone knew, not because it was so obvious, but because he would go around and tell everyone! Fucked up kid! Personal trainer my ass. All he knows about is recreational drugs, because he's overdosed on everything. Even Advil when he could not get anything else. That was the last call I got from him years back. He always had weird issues going on. Some gay shit with his dad as well. I mean, he had no filter. Would tell the craziest shit, true or false to anyone who would listen. Like I said, we pretty much ran his ass out of San Diego years ago. He was about to get his ass kicked by quite a few people with that mouth of his. All of us serious bodybuilders down here could not stand his ass in the gym. Did nothing but talk shit! Never lifted a weight around us either. He had no muscle at all! Needless to say, he did not last long. It's sad he's back to being an idiot back on the boards. I would think that since he is older now he'd be wiser. Sad. He's nothing but a lier. Mark my words though, that guy will end up in jail again, or a fatal overdose. Just a matter of time. Wait and see! Cheers.


This was been posted before in another thread some time ago. Now ESF will have to put up a wall to explain this bs.

(https://i.ibb.co/d07h81t/don-039-t-stress.png)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 01:06:13 AM
And that Eric loser never trained anyone!!!! He was a laughing stock. People felt bad for him! He never lifted weights... just drugs and shooting oil into his body parts. Everyone knew, not because it was so obvious, but because he would go around and tell everyone! Fucked up kid! Personal trainer my ass. All he knows about is recreational drugs, because he's overdosed on everything. Even Advil when he could not get anything else. That was the last call I got from him years back. He always had weird issues going on. Some gay shit with his dad as well. I mean, he had no filter. Would tell the craziest shit, true or false to anyone who would listen. Like I said, we pretty much ran his ass out of San Diego years ago. He was about to get his ass kicked by quite a few people with that mouth of his. All of us serious bodybuilders down here could not stand his ass in the gym. Did nothing but talk shit! Never lifted a weight around us either. He had no muscle at all! Needless to say, he did not last long. It's sad he's back to being an idiot back on the boards. I would think that since he is older now he'd be wiser. Sad. He's nothing but a lier. Mark my words though, that guy will end up in jail again, or a fatal overdose. Just a matter of time. Wait and see! Cheers.


Bwahahaha... Comedy.

19yrs as a trainer. Personal training manager, head trainer, personal training coordinator, gym general manager, etc...

19+yrs.

Overdosing on "Advil"?? Bwahaha... I haven't taken an Advil since Tom Prince blamed Advil on his kidney problems in what? 01? Scott Markey would swallow Advil tablets bynthe handful, because Tom Prince was in FLEX magazine talking about how great it was for joint pain. *Tablets, because he believed the softgels weren't strong enough.

Unlike Scott, I could actually READ, and could do research and figure out Advil would turn your kidneys to unuseable rocks, resembling dead coral.

I trained with the dude, mostly because without me, he'd have no ride to work, or back home, or to the gym.

When I'd train solo and have conversations with fellas who Scott would talk about as his "friends", they'd throw their heads back and laugh (like the fella with the orange shoes, or Brad, or Moose, or Kelly, etc etc etc.... Could rattle off 2handfuls of.others as well), and they'd laugh "yea, everybody knows Scott", and laugh about him and.roll their eyes, as he was a well known junkie and predator, always looking for the next girl he could mooch off of. As he could never keep a job...

If it weren't for me being a nice guy, driving from Kearny Mesa all the way down to Pacific Beach to pick him up fromthe guy's house who he was staying at, sleeping on the couch and living out of a backpack with only one white collared shirt and one pair of black pants,... JUST ONE of each, along with a single black hat he would have wear backwards to hide his thinning balding scalp, I would get up a good 45 minutes to an hour earlier than I needed to, to drive down to Pacific Beach to pick this loser up and drive him all the way up to the store I managed so he would have a little bit of income.And then come closing time, I would drive him back down to Pacific Beach wear along the way to his little sofa, was World Gym Pacific Beach wear we'd train together before I would drop him back off at his little sofa. Some days I would be his sole transportation down to Mexico to pick up the new bane that he got me hooked on (as well as his girlfriends). before he met me this dipshit didn't know a goddamn thing about anabolics. He would run 200 to 400 mg of deca every week all year round and couldn't figure out why he couldn't get his dick hard without Viagra.

I recall one time driving down to Mexico with him and coming back across the border with a water bottle full of nubain oh, he was behind me and the border guard stops him and ask him a couple questions and points out that he has 13, 13 fucking restraining orders against him from various ex-girlfriends. Who the fuck has 13 fucking restraining orders against them? LOL he looks up at me like a deer in the fucking headlights likely hoping that I had my back turned and hadn't heard what the border guard customs agent said to him. Too late. I didn't want to embarrass the fuck oh, so I didn't say anything to him. But I wasn't fucking surprised because I was the one who had to go over and pick him up at midnight or whatever it was driving all the way from Kearny Mesa up to del Mar to pick him up at the apartment where his girlfriend, Tonya LeClaire, had kicked him out finally when he was drunk as shit off of wine, and drive him down to the little house he lived in sleeping on the couch of his blind accountant buddy.

You sure you wanna go into this Scotty?

I can go on, and on, and on about this for days... You KNOW this.

Get in touch with me.... Or Wesley.... You know I'm just getting started about you. This is just a preface, and there's 10 more chapters to go.

You want me to go on??

"Ran out of San Diego" bwahahaha..... I moved to LA dicksucker, remember that? Remember when Drea would call me complaining about you when I lived in Hollywood and you'd flip out and have a heart attack? Oh wait, the heart attack was after we moved back to San Diego.. hahaha.

Remember when I bailed you out when Drea called me up screaming about you cheating on her because there was a pink toothbrush and then you had to call back and have me explain to draya that I had a pink toothbrush that I left over at your place when I drove down from LA and stayed at your place before heading into Mexico the next morning to bring YoU back some Nubain? When you were cheating andreea, infecting other naive girls with your herpes. remember that? Bwahahaha you fucken 50yr old loser.

Remember you fucking bum, this is just a preface I got 10 more chapters I could tell about you.

Be in touch. I can't wait to tell the story about how you went back to some girl's house and where about to fuck her but you shit your pants and ran to her bathroom locked herself in and ran out the window and got your pants caught on her fence, qnd ran home naked from.the waist down.


... Can't wait to tell that story.

Can't wait to talk about how you would flip out and have a mini-stroke when you would get a nose bleed out of nowhere from all the coke you would sniff and drip blood on the sleeve of your one and only white collared shirt that you were allowed to wear at work because you couldn't afford to buy one of the red or white polo shirts that they required as dress code and you would run to the bathroom tripping and falling over yourself to wash the blood off the sleeve and off the chest of the shirt LOL. God forbid you dropped fifteen bucks on one of the polo shirts that the company would sell, that would cut into your drug addict budget.

Remember when your best friend Cameron and his girlfriend flew out to San Diego to visit you from Florida and you try to hit on Cameron's girlfriend and he knocked you the fuck out in the front lobby of World Gym in PB San Diego? Right in front of Brad and Moose and everybody else, and he split open your cheekbone like a jellyfish's pussy? You were even going to press charges you little sissy and you were all concerned and whining and crying about the cut would leave a scar. LOL bwahahahahaha.

Hahaha lifelong JUNKIE, hopping from one girlfriend to another, mooching off of them and their families and their credit cards until they would kick you out on the street and you would have to prostitute yourself at parties with gay guys in Hillcrest in order can get money to pay for your valium and nubain, and prostitute yourself and walk around men's houses naked in exchange for a couch to sleep on. lol.

Been in touch with Stein lately? lol

... I could go on and on and on and on and on and on buddy.

Keep it coming.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 01:09:44 AM
This was been posted before in another thread some time ago. Now ESF will have to put up a wall to explain this bs.

(https://i.ibb.co/d07h81t/don-039-t-stress.png)

Bro, I could tell you a non-fiction novel about this lol. Honestly pathetically, sadly hilarious.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 02:18:53 AM
OK Eric,all bullshit aside,please let us know a few of the IFBB pros that you have trained...........at least other celebs if not bodybuilders.

I`ll wait.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 17, 2019, 05:35:23 AM
OK Eric,all bullshit aside,please let us know a few of the IFBB pros that you have trained...........at least other celebs if not bodybuilders.

I`ll wait.

to be honest I think if Eric was as well known and well respected as a coach he would have a list of clients before and after pics somewhere, how else do you attract clients if you dont have any advertising or word of mouth.
Has anyone ever vouched for him?
I saw his you tube channel, I dont understand why there are no videos on there of him working with clients, its just him moaning about poor care in hospital
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 05:40:41 AM
If I trained anyone from Ronnie Coleman to Rod Kethens,I`d be posting about it...............even Jocelyn Pelletire

I`lm still waiting.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 17, 2019, 06:09:01 AM
If i ever would be in the same gym as Wes, i'd be posting and bragging about it.


I've seen the first human!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 06:14:51 AM
If i ever would be in the same gym as Wes, i'd be posting and bragging about it.


I've seen the first human!
HAHAHAHA  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 17, 2019, 06:39:00 AM
HAHAHAHA  ;D

What have you been hearing behind the scenes? You gonna share some of this stuff?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 06:45:08 AM
What have you been hearing behind the scenes? You gonna share some of this stuff?
I dropped a few of the things in this thread.

Nothing too earth shaking but 2 people that know ESF agree with me that he`s full of shit and they know him personally from his home town................they should know.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 17, 2019, 07:54:01 AM
I dropped a few of the things in this thread.

Nothing too earth shaking but 2 people that know ESF agree with me that he`s full of shit and they know him personally from his home town................they should know.

They should make an account and say this stuff themselves. No disrespect to you Wes but these guys should come to the table not throw stones using you as cover.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 10:05:27 AM
They should make an account and say this stuff themselves. No disrespect to you Wes but these guys should come to the table not throw stones using you as cover.
They told me that ESF would know who they are and they do not want any bullshit.

Their words bud,not mine.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Hypertrophy on September 17, 2019, 10:09:22 AM
I thought a lot of people missed ESF on this forum? Anyways I think he's funny and makes it less boring :)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 10:23:52 AM
I thought a lot of people missed ESF on this forum? Anyways I think he's funny and makes it less boring :)
He does,if you believe in fairy tales.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 17, 2019, 10:52:55 AM
It's just crazy to hear all these stories from a guy who is a personal trainer,  I have friends who are trainers and their lives are nowhere near as interesting as ESF'S.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 11:38:09 AM
It's just crazy to hear all these stories from a guy who is a personal trainer,  I have friends who are trainers and their lives are nowhere near as interesting as ESF'S.
Dude,he is a flat out liar...........trust me on that.

I`ve lived a helluva life with lots of crazy shit involved...........this guy  just makes up shit.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 17, 2019, 11:38:26 AM
"Nothing happend yesterday, it was pretty quiet"

...said ESF never...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Hypertrophy on September 17, 2019, 12:37:13 PM
He does,if you believe in fairy tales.

well- I used to think Arnold was a natural, so yeah, haha
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 12:49:26 PM
well- I used to think Arnold was a natural, so yeah, haha
You mean he wasn`t ?  :(













;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 17, 2019, 02:55:22 PM
A lot of hate for  ESFitness in here. Not good
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 17, 2019, 03:03:20 PM
I want my daily fix of ESF-stories!


We are barely holding on!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 17, 2019, 03:10:06 PM
....along with a single black hat he would have wear backwards to hide his thinning balding scalp,

Wearing a hat as it was designed to be worn does just as good, if not a better job of concealing baldness.  

Here's an example of why I don't wear backwards baseball caps.  ;D

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Fk-YkcdP--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/befxvouno7wonokntweq.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 17, 2019, 03:12:54 PM
A lot of hate for  ESFitness in here. Not good

you sound like a snowflake ...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 17, 2019, 03:14:56 PM
His stories dosent bother me, Man.

Lies or not, are just stories.  He is a bigger than life character. Its fun to read
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 17, 2019, 03:16:13 PM
Getbig NEEDS more characters like this.

Getbig NEEDS larger than life content.


We are of course GETBIG, and not all of us are ancient old farts.

Some even still train.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 17, 2019, 03:17:48 PM
His stories dosent bother me, Man.

Lies or not, are just stories.  He is a bigger than life character. Its fun to read

what about when he is slating people and calling them drug addicts, is that just a story you can laugh at when they are not here to defend themselves?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 17, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
what about when he is slating people and calling them drug addicts, is that just a story you can laugh at when they are not here to defend themselves?

A good amount of posters in here are addicts, not recreational drugs, but Test addicts, so....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
SUCKMYMUSCLE Had great stories too and look what happened to him.

Pumpster had great stories too and look what happened to him.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 04:40:22 PM
If I trained anyone from Ronnie Coleman to Rod Kethens,I`d be posting about it...............even Jocelyn Pelletire

I`lm still waiting.

You're also not in the biz I'm in.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 04:43:25 PM
what about when he is slating people and calling them drug addicts, is that just a story you can laugh at when they are not here to defend themselves?

Nobody's stopping them (2? People? Hahaha sure) from posting here. He already got run off years ago and he wouldn't even know about this place had I not introduced him to this place back in 01/02.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 04:47:41 PM
You're also not in the biz I'm in.
Excuse me retard but i`ve been a PT since long before you were.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 04:50:41 PM
I`m still waiting for the pros that you`ve trained,,,,,,,,,,,,,don`try to deflect since you are the one who said it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2019, 04:51:00 PM
You're also not in the biz I'm in.

Dude, you've GOT to stop thinking you're the only "trainer" on here with any knowledge. Fucking humble yourself. Your IG tells me you don't train hardly anyone either that or your marketing skills suck
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 04:53:14 PM
to be honest I think if Eric was as well known and well respected as a coach he would have a list of clients before and after pics somewhere, how else do you attract clients if you dont have any advertising or word of mouth.
Has anyone ever vouched for him?
I saw his you tube channel, I dont understand why there are no videos on there of him working with clients, its just him moaning about poor care in hospital

I've already talked about how UGLs work and stuff about the black market. Why would I post names and then associate people with a known manufacturer/supplier?

This place is full of anti-social scumbags who'd take names and run with them, calling them at home, calling their family's, doxing them, etc... So you want me to fuck up their lives just to prove something to YOU? Hahaha @ you believing I have to explain or prove myself to you or anybody else here. I don't get clients or customers from here and I could not care less.

You think I go around telling people about prison? None of my clients/customers know about that shit and you think they want their names associated with that? Are you fucking stupid?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 04:55:13 PM
Dude, you've GOT to stop thinking you're the only "trainer" on here with any knowledge. Fucking humble yourself. Your IG tells me you don't train hardly anyone either that or your marketing skills suck

Oh, now you're telling me I think I'm the only trainer here?

Hahaha... That's YOUR insecurity taking again. Where the fuck do you gather that I "think I'm the only trainer here"??? Hahaha

By "biz" you think I'm talking about training? Are you that dense?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 17, 2019, 04:56:10 PM
This has got to be one of the all time strangest threads on Getbig. It comes off like one ginormous pissing match and it is getting flooded with stinky pee. Will the real trainer stand up? And, everyone stands.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 04:56:43 PM
Excuse me retard but i`ve been a PT since long before you were.

Hahahaha oh your fragile little ego. I say "biz" and you think it's referring to training?? Training??? Ffs you're an idiot.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2019, 04:58:36 PM
Oh, now you're telling me I think I'm the only trainer here?

Hahaha... That's YOUR insecurity taking again. Where the fuck do you gather that I "think I'm the only trainer here"??? Hahaha

By "biz" you think I'm talking about training? Are you that dense?

Yes, I don't have time to go through all the bullshit on here so I pick up bits and pieces...mostly yours so yes, trainer
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 05:03:11 PM
A good amount of posters in here are addicts, not recreational drugs, but Test addicts, so....

There are a lot of guys here who're addicted to opiates, benzos, and alcohol. I've gotten plenty of PMs regarding how to detox from various things from ppl you would never suspect, and unless they wanna talk about it, it's not my place to say who or what.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 05:12:26 PM
Yes, I don't have time to go through all the bullshit on here so I pick up bits and pieces...mostly yours so yes, trainer

Remember dude, you came after me. I've never said a word to you or about you before you came in here talking shit towards me. I couldn't care less about anything you do. I don't care what you do or who you train, yet you seem to care an aweful lot about what I do.

Same as Wes.

You people occupy zero space in my mind, yet you somehow think I have to explain myself to you lol.  ::)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: dexitrim on September 17, 2019, 05:16:46 PM
There are a lot of guys here who're addicted to opiates, benzos, and alcohol. I've gotten plenty of PMs regarding how to detox from various things from ppl you would never suspect, and unless they wanna talk about it, it's not my place to say who or what.

I'm guessing GH15 was one of them.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2019, 05:17:32 PM
You sure do trigger a lot of folks around here.   ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 05:20:54 PM
You sure do trigger a lot of folks around here.   ;D

Fuck'em.

Other people's insecurities sent my problem
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 05:50:51 PM
Oh, now you're telling me I think I'm the only trainer here?

Hahaha... That's YOUR insecurity taking again. Where the fuck do you gather that I "think I'm the only trainer here"??? Hahaha

By "biz" you think I'm talking about training? Are you that dense?
I don`t sell bogus roids sorry to disappoint.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 05:53:58 PM
Still waiting on the pros you`ve claimed to have trained



I thought so.....................Z IPPO !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 05:57:03 PM
LYING MAHERFACKER............. ................YOU CAN`T HUSTLE ME LIKE YOU DO PRIME AND OTHER NAIEVE GUYS ON HERE.................... ..YOU`RE A BLATANT LIAR AND IF I HAD YOU HERE I`D FUCK YOU UP FAKE TOUGH GUY !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on September 17, 2019, 05:57:40 PM
SUCKMYMUSCLE Had great stories too and look what happened to him.

Pumpster had great stories too and look what happened to him.

Well, they were exposed. As in their true identities were revealed and they were both pretty underwhelming in real life all the while talking shit on here like they were 10 feet tall. ESF has always been who he is. Hes never tried to hide who he is.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 06:00:06 PM
Well, they were exposed. As in their true identities were revealed and they were both pretty underwhelming in real life all the while talking shit on here like they were 10 feet tall. ESF has always been who he is. Hes never tried to hide who he is.
I never hid either,but the inportant issue is they lied and so does he.

Look back into my poss,,,,,I`1ve disclosed a ton of shit about myself,,,,,,,,,not too proud of it,but I told the truth.

I`ll make sure he`s exposed because I can`t stand bullshit.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 17, 2019, 06:13:01 PM
LYING MAHERFACKER............. ................YOU CAN`T HUSTLE ME LIKE YOU DO PRIME AND OTHER NAIEVE GUYS ON HERE.................... ..YOU`RE A BLATANT LIAR AND IF I HAD YOU HERE I`D FUCK YOU UP FAKE TOUGH GUY !!

Those are fighting words, Wes!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2019, 06:35:17 PM
I never hid either,but the inportant issue is they lied and so does he.

Look back into my poss,,,,,I`1ve disclosed a ton of shit about myself,,,,,,,,,not too proud of it,but I told the truth.

I`ll make sure he`s exposed because I can`t stand bullshit.

Have you done any epic faggotry for $$$$$$$$$$? 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 17, 2019, 06:42:31 PM
I've already talked about how UGLs work and stuff about the black market. Why would I post names and then associate people with a known manufacturer/supplier?

This place is full of anti-social scumbags who'd take names and run with them, calling them at home, calling their family's, doxing them, etc... So you want me to fuck up their lives just to prove something to YOU? Hahaha @ you believing I have to explain or prove myself to you or anybody else here. I don't get clients or customers from here and I could not care less.

You think I go around telling people about prison? None of my clients/customers know about that shit and you think they want their names associated with that? Are you fucking stupid?

Dude - you are NOT a black market supplier. You cook drugs up in your kitchen. I know for anFACT that some of the upper level suppliers have sterile rooms and actually honor scientific protocol. You constantly have infections and staph because you are a filthy non-hygienic cretin.
You are ansmall time thug that is constantly popped by the cops - because it’s easy to catch the dumb ones
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 17, 2019, 06:52:46 PM
ESF - you are too dense to realize that since you have zero truly close friends- in real life — and you compensate by hooking up with horrific looking getto skanks (no proper hot white female would even glance your way) —— that this internet nonsense is simply a very desperate way to find a place where you can be the guy that you have longed for.

Stop being a douche - admit and be humble - and you will see how fast you can make friends. But - it would take something that’s very difficult for you - courage.... I believe you can find that courage and hopefullly you will
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2019, 07:35:46 PM
ESF - you are too dense to realize that since you have zero truly close friends- in real life — and you compensate by hooking up with horrific looking getto skanks (no proper hot white female would even glance your way) —— that this internet nonsense is simply a very desperate way to find a place where you can be the guy that you have longed for.

Stop being a douche - admit and be humble - and you will see how fast you can make friends. But - it would take something that’s very difficult for you - courage.... I believe you can find that courage and hopefullly you will

Fire.  You sir, are playing with fire. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 17, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
HAhAHAHA
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 17, 2019, 09:14:39 PM
Fire.  You sir, are playing with fire. 

Are you saying that ESF might come back with another one of his half retard essays??
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 09:29:49 PM
Have you done any epic faggotry for $$$$$$$$$$? 

No man I never had to do that fag shit I was a criminal................ ..had to steal to eat at times.

You know,sometimes I like you,sometimes I don`t.............this time I don`t.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2019, 09:46:31 PM
No man I never had to do that fag shit I was a criminal................ ..had to steal to eat at times.

You know,sometimes I like you,sometimes I don`t.............this time I don`t.

LOL.  I like you Wes.  You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 17, 2019, 10:11:39 PM
LOL.  I like you Wes.  You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.
In that case,we`re aces bro !  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 17, 2019, 10:23:38 PM
You're also not in the biz I'm in.

the biz you "claim" to be in, you havent provided any evidence its true..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 17, 2019, 10:30:05 PM
I've already talked about how UGLs work and stuff about the black market. Why would I post names and then associate people with a known manufacturer/supplier?

This place is full of anti-social scumbags who'd take names and run with them, calling them at home, calling their family's, doxing them, etc... So you want me to fuck up their lives just to prove something to YOU? Hahaha @ you believing I have to explain or prove myself to you or anybody else here. I don't get clients or customers from here and I could not care less.

You think I go around telling people about prison? None of my clients/customers know about that shit and you think they want their names associated with that? Are you fucking stupid?
You are always claiming to be training clients, not selling drugs, and you really think people you deal with on a day to day basis wouldnt know about your past?
Jeez, you are always telling everyone about your past.
As was pointed out earlier your instagram shows no evidence of any clients you train, no transformations, no people thanking you for help, nothing at all that would suggest you interact with people at all.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 11:00:02 PM
to be honest I think if Eric was as well known and well respected as a coach he would have a list of clients before and after pics somewhere, how else do you attract clients if you dont have any advertising or word of mouth.
Has anyone ever vouched for him?
I saw his you tube channel, I dont understand why there are no videos on there of him working with clients, its just him moaning about poor care in hospital

Eh, the YouTube channel was made because somebody requested it so they didn't have to read a bunch of shit.

At least you could see somebody's face speaking the words. Have YOU or anybody else chose to make a video rather than typing out response?? No? Why not?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2019, 11:05:36 PM
[quote author=ESFitness link=topic=654647.msg9274230#msg9274230 date=

At least you could see somebody's face speaking the words. Have YOU or anybody else chose to make a video rather than typing out response?? No? Why not?
[/quote]

I have
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 11:10:58 PM
ESF - you are too dense to realize that since you have zero truly close friends- in real life — and you compensate by hooking up with horrific looking getto skanks (no proper hot white female would even glance your way) —— that this internet nonsense is simply a very desperate way to find a place where you can be the guy that you have longed for.

Stop being a douche - admit and be humble - and you will see how fast you can make friends. But - it would take something that’s very difficult for you - courage.... I believe you can find that courage and hopefullly you will

I have "no friends"?? Hahaha dude, you realize you're a faceless name on a bbing msg board who knows nothing about me? You have a super inflated ego and some sort of delusional idea that you know anything about me or my personal life or you have some sort of knowledge about how many friends I have or who I speak to on a day-to-day basis, or who I say good morning to our good night to. HAHAHAHAHA.. fucken clown. You're a nobody who thinks he knows my day to day life lol.

"No proper white female" what the fuck do I want with a white girl? lol  you follow up your little hot white female comment up with saying I should stop being a douche LOL. Dude stick to you trailer park in bread caveman looking white skanks with stringy hair and keep pumping out caveman looking cross eyed inbred kids, and I'll keep doing exactly what I do, and while you're thinking about me while you're holding hands with your second cousin on a date to Carl's Junior, and I'll continue not given a flying fuck about whoever the fuck you are or anybody else here.

You know what I look like, I don't know and I don't give a flying fuck what you look like, so I'll consider that a W on my part, and this is a zero-sum game so when there's winners, there's got to be losers, and you today, are a loser..... Especially when it comes to your inbred trailer park skanks with flat asses, caveman eyebrows, and bodies like 12 year old little boys.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 17, 2019, 11:12:42 PM
[quote author=ESFitness link=topic=654647.msg9274230#msg9274230 date=

At least you could see somebody's face speaking the words. Have YOU or anybody else chose to make a video rather than typing out response?? No? Why not?


I have

Good for you. I don't remember asking you, nor do I remember giving a shit. Haven't seen any video of yours and I really don't give a fuk. Amazing that you think you're so important that you needed to chime in and let us all know. maybe if you take some time away from the boards or some shit somebody will make a post asking where you are or what the fuck ever, and you can chime in.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 17, 2019, 11:23:40 PM
Good for you. I don't remember asking you, nor do I remember giving a shit. Haven't seen any video of yours and I really don't give a fuk. Amazing that you think you're so important that you needed to chime in and let us all know. maybe if you take some time away from the boards or some shit somebody will make a post asking where you are or what the fuck ever, and you can chime in.

Dumbass...The question was asked “if you or anyone else has” Jesus Christ
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 18, 2019, 12:40:41 AM
I have "no friends"?? Hahaha dude, you realize you're a faceless name on a bbing msg board who knows nothing about me? You have a super inflated ego and some sort of delusional idea that you know anything about me or my personal life or you have some sort of knowledge about how many friends I have or who I speak to on a day-to-day basis, or who I say good morning to our good night to. HAHAHAHAHA.. fucken clown. You're a nobody who thinks he knows my day to day life lol.

"No proper white female" what the fuck do I want with a white girl? lol  you follow up your little hot white female comment up with saying I should stop being a douche LOL. Dude stick to you trailer park in bread caveman looking white skanks with stringy hair and keep pumping out caveman looking cross eyed inbred kids, and I'll keep doing exactly what I do, and while you're thinking about me while you're holding hands with your second cousin on a date to Carl's Junior, and I'll continue not given a flying fuck about whoever the fuck you are or anybody else here.

You know what I look like, I don't know and I don't give a flying fuck what you look like, so I'll consider that a W on my part, and this is a zero-sum game so when there's winners, there's got to be losers, and you today, are a loser..... Especially when it comes to your inbred trailer park skanks with flat asses, caveman eyebrows, and bodies like 12 year old little boys.

I won’t get into the home / properties that I own - but your sophomoric rebuttals are an indication that my assessment of your situation is not far off.
You seem pretty miserable with your life but if not then good for you.
Take care lil fella 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 18, 2019, 01:53:26 AM
I Am confused by me african ameri
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 18, 2019, 01:55:22 AM
Dumbass...The question was asked “if you or anyone else has” Jesus Christ

And you assumed that meant YOU. lol... My point exactly
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 18, 2019, 01:57:43 AM
I won’t get into the home / properties that I own - but your sophomoric rebuttals are an indication that my assessment of your situation is not far off.
You seem pretty miserable with your life but if not then good for you.
Take care lil fella 

Hahaha... I don't know you and I don't give a fuck about anything about you, yet you care soooo much about me. I can't relate to people like you who care about anybody else on bbing msg boards.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 18, 2019, 03:22:47 AM
Hahaha... I don't know you and I don't give a fuck about anything about you, yet you care soooo much about me. I can't relate to people like you who care about anybody else on bbing msg boards.

why do you asume people care about you, its a message board where people take the piss out of each other, you just give people a lot to work with hence why people do it, they dont care about you at all...

Oh and for someone who claims he doesnt care about people on message boards you dont half make a song and dance with your responses to criticism.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2019, 05:10:21 AM
why do you asume people care about you, its a message board where people take the piss out of each other, you just give people a lot to work with hence why people do it, they dont care about you at all...

Oh and for someone who claims he doesnt care about people on message boards you dont half make a song and dance with your responses to criticism.

Judging by his angry inane responses He Cares a Lot
He likely Believes his own delusional crap & Expectd others to also
And gets really angry when they don’t & take the piss out of Him.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 18, 2019, 05:27:05 AM
Hahaha... I don't know you and I don't give a fuck about anything about you, so

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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 18, 2019, 05:35:49 AM
Hahaha... I don't know you and I don't give a fuck about anything about you, yet you care soooo much about me. I can't relate to people like you who care about anybody else on bbing msg boards.

And yet,... here you are constantly attempting to amaze and awe everyone on this board with your constant storytelling. 

If you didn't care what people thought, you wouldn't be triggered so easily by what has been posted.   I mean, I simply pointed out your overuse of parenthesis in the wall of text you spew in replies, and voila!.....   you cut back and stop.

You care.  Sucka.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 06:48:49 AM
Still waiting for the list of elite IFBB pros that you`ve made famous!


;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 18, 2019, 06:51:48 AM
I like White Girls, but have fucked a bunch of Black Girls when I was young.

LOL   The hate continues. ESF is harmless to society, yet people give him hell in here
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 06:55:26 AM
I like White Girls, but have fucked a bunch of Black Girls when I was young.

LOL   The hate continues. ESF is harmless to society, yet people give him hell in here
Don`T drink the KOOL AID my friend.

You haven`t been here long enough to understand what this is even all about.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 18, 2019, 06:57:48 AM
Don`T drink the KOOL AID my friend.

You haven`t been here long enough to understand what this is even all about.

Not really. See, is fun to watch a bar brawl, but when turns into a mess, loses its fun.

Maybe ESFitness has a dark past, prison and other runnings with the law, but the guy has a lot of hate.

It is because he sell his gear? I dont get all the hate
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 07:19:53 AM
Not really. See, is fun to watch a bar brawl, but when turns into a mess, loses its fun.

Maybe ESFitness has a dark past, prison and other runnings with the law, but the guy has a lot of hate.

It is because he sell his gear? I dont get all the hate
My past is dark also but I changed it for the better...............not hing against for that reason.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;lots of guys here have fucked up but then got it together.

The reason he gets called out is because he he is a straight  up fucking liar.

Gear selling = no also.

HE`s A FUCKING TALL TALE TELLER AND IDIOTS DRINK IT UP LIKE IT`S GOSPEL.

To do all that he says he did would take 3 lifetimes ...............plus the tales are outlandish.

120K on heroin...........he fucked up here because I`m from the streets and I don`t mean SESAME STREET !!

I could go on and on but it seems like you believe his bullshit so it would fall on deaf ears.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 18, 2019, 07:20:03 AM
I like White Girls, but have fucked a bunch of Black Girls when I was young.

LOL   The hate continues. ESF is harmless to society, yet people give him hell in here
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, no one hates him, no one really cares about him, he just courts responses from people with his tall stories, no one has any malicious intent...

hes a bit like this guy
https://www.facebook.com/onthetools/videos/2071495102915812/?t=0
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 18, 2019, 07:35:41 AM
My past is dark also but I changed it for the better...............not hing against for that reason.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;lots of guys here have fucked up but then got it together.

The reason he gets called out is because he he is a straight  up fucking liar.

Gear selling = no also.

HE`s A FUCKING TALL TALE TELLER AND IDIOTS DRINK IT UP LIKE IT`S GOSPEL.

To do all that he says he did would take 3 lifetimes ...............plus the tales are outlandish.

120K on heroin...........he fucked up here because I`m from the streets and I don`t mean SESAME STREET !!

I could go on and on but it seems like you believe his bullshit so it would fall on deaf ears.

Well, looks like we agree in something: all the bad stuff we did in the past or people that we let down or hurt somewhat will get their 'revenge' cause Karma, my friend, Karma comes ripping!!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 07:42:24 AM
Well, looks like we agree in something: all the bad stuff we did in the past or people that we let down or hurt somewhat will get their 'revenge' cause Karma, my friend, Karma comes ripping!!
Karma has visited me on numerous occasions for my past regressions.......I`ve paid my dues bro.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 18, 2019, 07:53:20 AM
Well, looks like we agree in something: all the bad stuff we did in the past or people that we let down or hurt somewhat will get their 'revenge' cause Karma, my friend, Karma comes ripping!!
(http://cs.mg.co.za/crop/content/images/2018/03/22/bUXiz7RcTq2hgXB2xjZK_RobertMugabe_PhillMagakoe_AFP.jpg/800x450/)

not always
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 18, 2019, 08:27:12 AM
LOL Most of the times, then
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 18, 2019, 06:36:12 PM
And yet,... here you are constantly attempting to amaze and awe everyone on this board with your constant storytelling. 

If you didn't care what people thought, you wouldn't be triggered so easily by what has been posted.   I mean, I simply pointed out your overuse of parenthesis in the wall of text you spew in replies, and voila!.....   you cut back and stop.

You care.  Sucka.

Eh, I didn't.cut back anything. I couldn't remember how you type, or anyone else here for that matter, yet you remember how I type enough to point out shit you don't like? lol

I see someone post something and it.reminds me of something, so I'll post it, usually using voice text because I don't care to type the shit out... And you people flip your lid and have meltdowns over it while I hardly remember posting it after I close the thread, yet you seem to.bookmark them so you can quote it later. Pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 18, 2019, 06:39:27 PM
My past is dark also but I changed it for the better...............not hing against for that reason.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;lots of guys here have fucked up but then got it together.

The reason he gets called out is because he he is a straight  up fucking liar.

Gear selling = no also.

HE`s A FUCKING TALL TALE TELLER AND IDIOTS DRINK IT UP LIKE IT`S GOSPEL.

To do all that he says he did would take 3 lifetimes ...............plus the tales are outlandish.

120K on heroin...........he fucked up here because I`m from the streets and I don`t mean SESAME STREET !!

I could go on and on but it seems like you believe his bullshit so it would fall on deaf ears.

Hahaha "I'm from the streets" omg

Here's more of your "if i didn't do it, nobody else can either!!" Logic. Did you learn that "on the streets" with your junkie friends in between stealing VCRs to pay for your coke and crack? That "I'm from the streets!" Quote goes perfectly with your "point blank period" quote. lol utter stupidity.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
You make up your stories,now you`re making up mine,  ;D

Dude if I dropped you off where I grew up,you`d never be seen again.

I`m from one of the worst places you could ever imagine.............so streets all my life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YES INDEED SONNY.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 18, 2019, 06:54:10 PM
You make up your stories,now you`re making up mine,  ;D

Dude if I dropped you off where I grew up,you`d never be seen again.

I`m from one of the worst places you could ever imagine.............so streets all my life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YES INDEED SONNY.

Make up my stories? Bwahaha

And you said yourself how your friends were junkies and would steal to pay for their drugs.

You say you never used meth (yea right), and never used heroin, that leaves only coke and crack.... As most junkies on the street arnt stealing TV's and VCRs to pay for ghb or benzos or lsd or mushrooms or ecstacy.

Maybe you were huffing spray paint. That'd explain a lot.

Also, you being an ex-crackhead explains a lot as well.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2019, 06:54:38 PM
You make up your stories,now you`re making up mine,  ;D

Dude if I dropped you off where I grew up,you`d never be seen again.

I`m from one of the worst places you could ever imagine.............so streets all my life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YES INDEED SONNY.

Pls Drop Him Off There,
No Doubt he’d bore them to sleep with his Hi Jinx Tales
And be back on here in a few days !!!

Facts are he’s a dreamer & suffers from Verbal Diarrhea 🤮🤮🤮
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 18, 2019, 06:55:23 PM
You make up your stories,now you`re making up mine,  ;D

Dude if I dropped you off where I grew up,you`d never be seen again.

I`m from one of the worst places you could ever imagine.............so streets all my life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YES INDEED SONNY.


Who talks like this? Did you imagine this would sound cool when you typed it?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 06:59:24 PM
ESF,one of these days we`ll compare  how we came up as kids.

I`d be willing to wager you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth and rebelled against mommy and daddy because you didn`t get your way onetime.

My life was hard and if it wasn `t for my strong belief in my potentiasl I would be dead right now or making the time you did look like a fucking cakewalk.

BTW,I have been pronounced dead on 3 different  occasions and still came back to place on a national level several times over in 2 organizations.

You were too chickenshit to even attempt to compete................. .....LOSER !
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
Who talks like this? Did you imagine this would sound cool when you typed it?
It`s simply the truth,,,,,,,something you know nothing about liar.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 18, 2019, 07:24:05 PM
Make up my stories? Bwahaha

And you said yourself how your friends were junkies and would steal to pay for their drugs.

You say you never used meth (yea right), and never used heroin, that leaves only coke and crack.... As most junkies on the street arnt stealing TV's and VCRs to pay for ghb or benzos or lsd or mushrooms or ecstacy.

Maybe you were huffing spray paint. That'd explain a lot.

Also, you being an ex-crackhead explains a lot as well.
++
No Meth but I dabbled in Heroin,,,,,,,,,,,,,not a junkie just a dabller but it had a high price..... I contracted Hepatitus B behind a dirty needle.

I was in the hospital for 7  days with a 105 degree fever........my shit was white,my piss was orange,my eyes were orange all my joints hurt,I would get teeth chattering chills,then a minute later I was sweating profusely...........my buddy brought me a fifth of Jack Daniels as a get well gift.LOL  ;D

Anything I ate, would once hitting the pit of my stomach,immediately come up in the form of projectile vomit...........same for liquids.

I thoughtIwas A goner on that one.

Signed myself out after 7 days AMA and went and bought a case of Budweiser and 3 joints on my way to my aunts house.

The things addiction makes people do.

This essay sounds like one of yours................... ....scary !   LOL  :D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 19, 2019, 12:30:01 AM
Eh, I didn't.cut back anything. I couldn't remember how you type, or anyone else here for that matter, yet you remember how I type enough to point out shit you don't like? lol

I see someone post something and it.reminds me of something, so I'll post it, usually using voice text because I don't care to type the shit out... And you people flip your lid and have meltdowns over it while I hardly remember posting it after I close the thread, yet you seem to.bookmark them so you can quote it later. Pathetic.

I wish.....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 19, 2019, 01:52:52 AM
Who talks like this? Did you imagine this would sound cool when you typed it?

Wes is from a different era, they talked like that back in the day.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 19, 2019, 07:51:11 AM
ESF,one of these days we`ll compare  how we came up as kids.

I`d be willing to wager you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth and rebelled against mommy and daddy because you didn`t get your way onetime.

My life was hard and if it wasn `t for my strong belief in my potentiasl I would be dead right now or making the time you did look like a fucking cakewalk.

BTW,I have been pronounced dead on 3 different  occasions and still came back to place on a national level several times over in 2 organizations.

You were too chickenshit to even attempt to compete................. .....LOSER !

"BTW,I have been pronounced dead on 3 different  occasions and still came back to place on a national level several times over in 2 organizations."

Did you have 3 Ods? Damn, thats hard stuff
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 19, 2019, 07:54:47 AM


Black Tar Heroin", a very good documentary on the subject, on the streets of Frisco, back in the 90s....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2019, 08:25:22 AM
"BTW,I have been pronounced dead on 3 different  occasions and still came back to place on a national level several times over in 2 organizations."

Did you have 3 Ods? Damn, thats hard stuff

He couldn't compete because he was too busy holding hands with the mexican cartel hollywood actor in celebrity rehab and turning people pro over the telephone.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 19, 2019, 08:27:13 AM
"BTW,I have been pronounced dead on 3 different  occasions and still came back to place on a national level several times over in 2 organizations."

Did you have 3 Ods? Damn, thats hard stuff
Three OD`s and pronounced dead in all 3.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 19, 2019, 08:33:04 AM
He couldn't compete because he was too busy holding hands with the mexican cartel hollywood actor in celebrity rehab and turning people pro over the telephone.


LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 19, 2019, 09:33:26 AM
ESF,one of these days we`ll compare  how we came up as kids.

I`d be willing to wager you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth and rebelled against mommy and daddy because you didn`t get your way onetime.

My life was hard and if it wasn `t for my strong belief in my potentiasl I would be dead right now or making the time you did look like a fucking cakewalk.

BTW,I have been pronounced dead on 3 different  occasions
and still came back to place on a national level several times over in 2 organizations.

You were too chickenshit to even attempt to compete................. .....LOSER !

Did you see God?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 19, 2019, 09:47:44 AM
Three OD`s and pronounced dead in all 3.

Any encounters with 'Heaven' or Purgatory or even Hell during the 'time away'?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 19, 2019, 10:31:35 AM
I AM GOD SON ! 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: beakdoctor on September 19, 2019, 09:32:30 PM
Who talks like this? Did you imagine this would sound cool when you typed it?

LOL....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 19, 2019, 09:44:40 PM
++
No Meth but I dabbled in Heroin,,,,,,,,,,,,,not a junkie just a dabller but it had a high price..... I contracted Hepatitus B behind a dirty needle.

I was in the hospital for 7  days with a 105 degree fever........my shit was white,my piss was orange,my eyes were orange all my joints hurt,I would get teeth chattering chills,then a minute later I was sweating profusely...........my buddy brought me a fifth of Jack Daniels as a get well gift.LOL  ;D

Anything I ate, would once hitting the pit of my stomach,immediately come up in the form of projectile vomit...........same for liquids.

I thoughtIwas A goner on that one.

Signed myself out after 7 days AMA and went and bought a case of Budweiser and 3 joints on my way to my aunts house.

The things addiction makes people do.

This essay sounds like one of yours................... ....scary !   LOL  :D

Dude, i don't give a fuck about whatever you did. You don't seem to understand, I don't give a fuk about you and the only reason I even a fucking address you is because you come after me first.

It's YOU comparing yourself and your stories and your experience to me and mine.

I've posted plenty about my times in the hospital.

I checked out with sepsis, cellulitis in both legs, and Endocarditis (bacteria in a heart valve) all from only 4wks of banging 6-8 2mg diluadid tabs 6-8x a day. Woke up shivering/shaking uncontroably one Saturday morning, freezing cold. GF wrapped me in every blanket she had, still shaking.. lasted about 6am-noon.

I get up, she goes to class for an hour. She had brought in a gallon of Gatorade, everything I drank I puked up, including the 30 PC's of sushi I/we ate the night before that was still in my stomach.

She gets home and I'm pouring sweat. She takes my temp, 105.3. we go to urgent care and as I'm filling out the forms, I'm dripping puddles under the seat and all over the form like a facet. I get in to see the Dr and she looks at me and looks at my ankles, which were 19" from my calve to my heels and says I must be fucking stupid, if she (gf) wasn't here, I'd call an ambulance right now.

So, we go to the ER and the check me in with a 106.4 temp and give me a 325mg Tylenol (I'm used to taking 2000mg at a time, at least)., And we sit and wait 7 fucken hrs to be seen (I went out to the car 2-3x to shoot some 16mg diluadid shots). It was late and everybody else was wrapped up in blankets (it was cold and raining out) and I'm sitting in a tank top that's soaked and I've got a puddle of sweat beneath me.

They finally see me and say I'll have to stay for a week most likely.. I say fuck that, I have clients Monday. They say, ok, well best case scenario is if you leave and come back, you'll lose only your left leg from the ankle down, worst case if you lose your right from the knee down.

I agree to stay thinking I'll be out in 2 days, but within 12hrs they find endocarditis and my white cell ct goes from 14 to 22 AFTER 12hrs of a round the clock antibiotic cocktail (3dif antibiotics) and they say if I leave my heart will eventually stop. I'm trying to leave cuz we already have plans tickets and 2wks with 3 dif resorts paid for in Cancun and I'm not making any money.

The day before they let me go (I got the "team" of 4-5drs that'd come to see me twice a day, if my white cell count came down 2 blood draws in a row they'd discharge me with.oral clindamycin), I'm in the bathroom shooting some diluadid and hear a Dr talking to my gf (they knew each other. that was also the hospital she was a 3rd yr med student at... You'd think a 3rd yr med student would recognize cellulitis. But then she also didn't recognize black tar heroin when I told her it.was "kratom resin") asking her what all steroids i was using, as if she would remember. She knew, she just didn't remember. And I come out and he says I have hepatitis, and my act/alt is elevated etc... That was likely from the methyltrienolone, and asks about my ankles and insay it was from "igf1 Des site injections" and he thought there was gonna be an influx of ppl coming with with this "new drug" igf1. Dipshit had no clue what igf1 was. I tell him don't worry about it, and next time you can just ask me what I'm taking. Asking her is fucken shady, I heard every word.

Checked out a day after, with Endocarditis and on my way to Cancun a day or 2 after. Landed in Cancun and by the time we got.to the rental car place, I'm surprised that I'm in full blown opiate withdrawal. Railed all 11tabs of diluadid I brought with me (woulda brought a couple hundred, but wasn't sure about smuggling drugs through customs INTO Mexico. Brought them OUT plenty of time) After a couple days I was fine. Delt with that drinking pina coladas morning till night. All inclusive open bars everywhere. Before that I hadn't drank in 12+yrs

After that, first OD was my first relapse after I broke up with that girl, bought a week after. Muscled a 1.5g shot and ODd in my car, still running. Did the same few months later, again on black tar. Woke up to a cop. Then again twice in a day, on "China white". And then again a CPL times after,when I had a few mgs of Klonopin in my system. Oh, and another time when I had "fake" Xanax and alcohol in me. Woke up in a CVS parking lot with the car running and an unopened bottle of vodka on the floor. Was on my way to my dealer and never made it. Different gf at my place asleep and.said I'd been gone since 8pm, and it was now 4am.

I could go on and on and on, cuz stories like mine aren't that rare. Shit they're not rare at all, but YOU for.some.reason get all butthurt and try to compare yourself to me. You should like a little boy throwing a tantrum.

Speaking of little.boys... you say I was "born with a silver spoon"?? Bwahahaha AND you want to compare childhoods? Wtf is wrong with you? You need therapy dude. Getting all butthurt over another guy on an internet forum, wanting to "compare childhoods"? Bwahahaha that's almost the dumbest thing I've seen you post yet.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 19, 2019, 09:48:04 PM
^The smackdown has been laid^
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 19, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
ESF,one of these days we`ll compare  how we came up as kids.

I`d be willing to wager you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth and rebelled against mommy and daddy because you didn`t get your way onetime.

My life was hard and if it wasn `t for my strong belief in my potentiasl I would be dead right now or making the time you did look like a fucking cakewalk.

BTW,I have been pronounced dead on 3 different  occasions and still came back to place on a national level several times over in 2 organizations.

You were too chickenshit to even attempt to compete................. .....LOSER !

Rebelled against mommy and.daddy?

Eh, I didn't drink or use drugs in high school. I was "straight edge" and an athlete. When I moved out at 18 I didn't talk to or see my dad for a good 5yrs. I didn't start using heroin till I was in my 30s, like 32? 33? Or something? And I haven't talked to my mom since like 05.

So there goes that theory.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 19, 2019, 10:02:04 PM
^The smackdown has been laid^

You actually read all that?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 19, 2019, 10:20:23 PM
You actually read all that?

Probably not.  He's probably just encouraging him to make a bigger fool out of himself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 19, 2019, 10:25:28 PM
Dude, i don't give a fuck about whatever you did. You don't seem to understand, I don't give a fuk about you and the only reason I even a fucking address you is because you come after me first.

It's YOU comparing yourself and your stories and your experience to me and mine.

I've posted plenty about my times in the hospital.

I checked out with sepsis, cellulitis in both legs, and Endocarditis (bacteria in a heart valve) all from only 4wks of banging 6-8 2mg diluadid tabs 6-8x a day. Woke up shivering/shaking uncontroably one Saturday morning, freezing cold. GF wrapped me in every blanket she had, still shaking.. lasted about 6am-noon.

I get up, she goes to class for an hour. She had brought in a gallon of Gatorade, everything I drank I puked up, including the 30 PC's of sushi I/we ate the night before that was still in my stomach.

She gets home and I'm pouring sweat. She takes my temp, 105.3. we go to urgent care and as I'm filling out the forms, I'm dripping puddles under the seat and all over the form like a facet. I get in to see the Dr and she looks at me and looks at my ankles, which were 19" from my calve to my heels and says I must be fucking stupid, if she (gf) wasn't here, I'd call an ambulance right now.

So, we go to the ER and the check me in with a 106.4 temp and give me a 325mg Tylenol (I'm used to taking 2000mg at a time, at least)., And we sit and wait 7 fucken hrs to be seen (I went out to the car 2-3x to shoot some 16mg diluadid shots). It was late and everybody else was wrapped up in blankets (it was cold and raining out) and I'm sitting in a tank top that's soaked and I've got a puddle of sweat beneath me.

They finally see me and say I'll have to stay for a week most likely.. I say fuck that, I have clients Monday. They say, ok, well best case scenario is if you leave and come back, you'll lose only your left leg from the ankle down, worst case if you lose your right from the knee down.

I agree to stay thinking I'll be out in 2 days, but within 12hrs they find endocarditis and my white cell ct goes from 14 to 22 AFTER 12hrs of a round the clock antibiotic cocktail (3dif antibiotics) and they say if I leave my heart will eventually stop. I'm trying to leave cuz we already have plans tickets and 2wks with 3 dif resorts paid for in Cancun and I'm not making any money.

The day before they let me go (I got the "team" of 4-5drs that'd come to see me twice a day, if my white cell count came down 2 blood draws in a row they'd discharge me with.oral clindamycin), I'm in the bathroom shooting some diluadid and hear a Dr talking to my gf (they knew each other. that was also the hospital she was a 3rd yr med student at... You'd think a 3rd yr med student would recognize cellulitis. But then she also didn't recognize black tar heroin when I told her it.was "kratom resin") asking her what all steroids i was using, as if she would remember. She knew, she just didn't remember. And I come out and he says I have hepatitis, and my act/alt is elevated etc... That was likely from the methyltrienolone, and asks about my ankles and insay it was from "igf1 Des site injections" and he thought there was gonna be an influx of ppl coming with with this "new drug" igf1. Dipshit had no clue what igf1 was. I tell him don't worry about it, and next time you can just ask me what I'm taking. Asking her is fucken shady, I heard every word.

Checked out a day after, with Endocarditis and on my way to Cancun a day or 2 after. Landed in Cancun and by the time we got.to the rental car place, I'm surprised that I'm in full blown opiate withdrawal. Railed all 11tabs of diluadid I brought with me (woulda brought a couple hundred, but wasn't sure about smuggling drugs through customs INTO Mexico. Brought them OUT plenty of time) After a couple days I was fine. Delt with that drinking pina coladas morning till night. All inclusive open bars everywhere. Before that I hadn't drank in 12+yrs

After that, first OD was my first relapse after I broke up with that girl, bought a week after. Muscled a 1.5g shot and ODd in my car, still running. Did the same few months later, again on black tar. Woke up to a cop. Then again twice in a day, on "China white". And then again a CPL times after,when I had a few mgs of Klonopin in my system. Oh, and another time when I had "fake" Xanax and alcohol in me. Woke up in a CVS parking lot with the car running and an unopened bottle of vodka on the floor. Was on my way to my dealer and never made it. Different gf at my place asleep and.said I'd been gone since 8pm, and it was now 4am.

I could go on and on and on, cuz stories like mine aren't that rare. Shit they're not rare at all, but YOU for.some.reason get all butthurt and try to compare yourself to me. You should like a little boy throwing a tantrum.

Speaking of little.boys... you say I was "born with a silver spoon"?? Bwahahaha AND you want to compare childhoods? Wtf is wrong with you? You need therapy dude. Getting all butthurt over another guy on an internet forum, wanting to "compare childhoods"? Bwahahaha that's almost the dumbest thing I've seen you post yet.

you said 35 last time you told this story, I call bullshit
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 19, 2019, 10:27:55 PM
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: gib on September 19, 2019, 11:02:32 PM
Dude, i don't give a fuck about whatever you did. You don't seem to understand, I don't give a fuk about you and the only reason I even a fucking address you is because you come after me first.

It's YOU comparing yourself and your stories and your experience to me and mine.

I've posted plenty about my times in the hospital.

I checked out with sepsis, cellulitis in both legs, and Endocarditis (bacteria in a heart valve) all from only 4wks of banging 6-8 2mg diluadid tabs 6-8x a day. Woke up shivering/shaking uncontroably one Saturday morning, freezing cold. GF wrapped me in every blanket she had, still shaking.. lasted about 6am-noon.

I get up, she goes to class for an hour. She had brought in a gallon of Gatorade, everything I drank I puked up, including the 30 PC's of sushi I/we ate the night before that was still in my stomach.

She gets home and I'm pouring sweat. She takes my temp, 105.3. we go to urgent care and as I'm filling out the forms, I'm dripping puddles under the seat and all over the form like a facet. I get in to see the Dr and she looks at me and looks at my ankles, which were 19" from my calve to my heels and says I must be fucking stupid, if she (gf) wasn't here, I'd call an ambulance right now.

So, we go to the ER and the check me in with a 106.4 temp and give me a 325mg Tylenol (I'm used to taking 2000mg at a time, at least)., And we sit and wait 7 fucken hrs to be seen (I went out to the car 2-3x to shoot some 16mg diluadid shots). It was late and everybody else was wrapped up in blankets (it was cold and raining out) and I'm sitting in a tank top that's soaked and I've got a puddle of sweat beneath me.

They finally see me and say I'll have to stay for a week most likely.. I say fuck that, I have clients Monday. They say, ok, well best case scenario is if you leave and come back, you'll lose only your left leg from the ankle down, worst case if you lose your right from the knee down.

I agree to stay thinking I'll be out in 2 days, but within 12hrs they find endocarditis and my white cell ct goes from 14 to 22 AFTER 12hrs of a round the clock antibiotic cocktail (3dif antibiotics) and they say if I leave my heart will eventually stop. I'm trying to leave cuz we already have plans tickets and 2wks with 3 dif resorts paid for in Cancun and I'm not making any money.

The day before they let me go (I got the "team" of 4-5drs that'd come to see me twice a day, if my white cell count came down 2 blood draws in a row they'd discharge me with.oral clindamycin), I'm in the bathroom shooting some diluadid and hear a Dr talking to my gf (they knew each other. that was also the hospital she was a 3rd yr med student at... You'd think a 3rd yr med student would recognize cellulitis. But then she also didn't recognize black tar heroin when I told her it.was "kratom resin") asking her what all steroids i was using, as if she would remember. She knew, she just didn't remember. And I come out and he says I have hepatitis, and my act/alt is elevated etc... That was likely from the methyltrienolone, and asks about my ankles and insay it was from "igf1 Des site injections" and he thought there was gonna be an influx of ppl coming with with this "new drug" igf1. Dipshit had no clue what igf1 was. I tell him don't worry about it, and next time you can just ask me what I'm taking. Asking her is fucken shady, I heard every word.

Checked out a day after, with Endocarditis and on my way to Cancun a day or 2 after. Landed in Cancun and by the time we got.to the rental car place, I'm surprised that I'm in full blown opiate withdrawal. Railed all 11tabs of diluadid I brought with me (woulda brought a couple hundred, but wasn't sure about smuggling drugs through customs INTO Mexico. Brought them OUT plenty of time) After a couple days I was fine. Delt with that drinking pina coladas morning till night. All inclusive open bars everywhere. Before that I hadn't drank in 12+yrs

After that, first OD was my first relapse after I broke up with that girl, bought a week after. Muscled a 1.5g shot and ODd in my car, still running. Did the same few months later, again on black tar. Woke up to a cop. Then again twice in a day, on "China white". And then again a CPL times after,when I had a few mgs of Klonopin in my system. Oh, and another time when I had "fake" Xanax and alcohol in me. Woke up in a CVS parking lot with the car running and an unopened bottle of vodka on the floor. Was on my way to my dealer and never made it. Different gf at my place asleep and.said I'd been gone since 8pm, and it was now 4am.

I could go on and on and on, cuz stories like mine aren't that rare. Shit they're not rare at all, but YOU for.some.reason get all butthurt and try to compare yourself to me. You should like a little boy throwing a tantrum.

Speaking of little.boys... you say I was "born with a silver spoon"?? Bwahahaha AND you want to compare childhoods? Wtf is wrong with you? You need therapy dude. Getting all butthurt over another guy on an internet forum, wanting to "compare childhoods"? Bwahahaha that's almost the dumbest thing I've seen you post yet.

That's a hell of a story. You need to learn how to handle your opioids. All in moderation my friend. Heroin can be a wonderful drug, if used in the right way and circumstances. But you need to consider it a treat of the opium gods, and not something to gorge yourself on.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 12:19:00 AM
I`m so sorry dickweed,but I`1m not reading all that shit.................... ........................ .........just more lies anyway.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 12:24:27 AM
This fucking lying clown writes up a meaningless post as long as "War And Peace" just to deflect my question which was  about naming the pro bodybuilders he has trained.

Like I said before.,...........I`ll wait!!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 20, 2019, 12:30:35 AM
That's a hell of a story. You need to learn how to handle your opioids. All in moderation my friend. Heroin can be a wonderful drug, if used in the right way and circumstances. But you need to consider it a treat of the opium gods, and not something to gorge yourself on.

GTFO with moderation.  Moderation is for pussies.  ESF spits in the face of moderation.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: illuminati on September 20, 2019, 02:00:24 AM
Dude, i don't give a fuck about whatever you did. You don't seem to understand, I don't give a fuk about you and the only reason I even a fucking address you is because you come after me first.

It's YOU comparing yourself and your stories and your experience to me and mine.

I've posted plenty about my times in the hospital.

I checked out with sepsis, cellulitis in both legs, and Endocarditis (bacteria in a heart valve) all from only 4wks of banging 6-8 2mg diluadid tabs 6-8x a day. Woke up shivering/shaking uncontroably one Saturday morning, freezing cold. GF wrapped me in every blanket she had, still shaking.. lasted about 6am-noon.

I get up, she goes to class for an hour. She had brought in a gallon of Gatorade, everything I drank I puked up, including the 30 PC's of sushi I/we ate the night before that was still in my stomach.

She gets home and I'm pouring sweat. She takes my temp, 105.3. we go to urgent care and as I'm filling out the forms, I'm dripping puddles under the seat and all over the form like a facet. I get in to see the Dr and she looks at me and looks at my ankles, which were 19" from my calve to my heels and says I must be fucking stupid, if she (gf) wasn't here, I'd call an ambulance right now.

So, we go to the ER and the check me in with a 106.4 temp and give me a 325mg Tylenol (I'm used to taking 2000mg at a time, at least)., And we sit and wait 7 fucken hrs to be seen (I went out to the car 2-3x to shoot some 16mg diluadid shots). It was late and everybody else was wrapped up in blankets (it was cold and raining out) and I'm sitting in a tank top that's soaked and I've got a puddle of sweat beneath me.

They finally see me and say I'll have to stay for a week most likely.. I say fuck that, I have clients Monday. They say, ok, well best case scenario is if you leave and come back, you'll lose only your left leg from the ankle down, worst case if you lose your right from the knee down.

I agree to stay thinking I'll be out in 2 days, but within 12hrs they find endocarditis and my white cell ct goes from 14 to 22 AFTER 12hrs of a round the clock antibiotic cocktail (3dif antibiotics) and they say if I leave my heart will eventually stop. I'm trying to leave cuz we already have plans tickets and 2wks with 3 dif resorts paid for in Cancun and I'm not making any money.

The day before they let me go (I got the "team" of 4-5drs that'd come to see me twice a day, if my white cell count came down 2 blood draws in a row they'd discharge me with.oral clindamycin), I'm in the bathroom shooting some diluadid and hear a Dr talking to my gf (they knew each other. that was also the hospital she was a 3rd yr med student at... You'd think a 3rd yr med student would recognize cellulitis. But then she also didn't recognize black tar heroin when I told her it.was "kratom resin") asking her what all steroids i was using, as if she would remember. She knew, she just didn't remember. And I come out and he says I have hepatitis, and my act/alt is elevated etc... That was likely from the methyltrienolone, and asks about my ankles and insay it was from "igf1 Des site injections" and he thought there was gonna be an influx of ppl coming with with this "new drug" igf1. Dipshit had no clue what igf1 was. I tell him don't worry about it, and next time you can just ask me what I'm taking. Asking her is fucken shady, I heard every word.

Checked out a day after, with Endocarditis and on my way to Cancun a day or 2 after. Landed in Cancun and by the time we got.to the rental car place, I'm surprised that I'm in full blown opiate withdrawal. Railed all 11tabs of diluadid I brought with me (woulda brought a couple hundred, but wasn't sure about smuggling drugs through customs INTO Mexico. Brought them OUT plenty of time) After a couple days I was fine. Delt with that drinking pina coladas morning till night. All inclusive open bars everywhere. Before that I hadn't drank in 12+yrs

After that, first OD was my first relapse after I broke up with that girl, bought a week after. Muscled a 1.5g shot and ODd in my car, still running. Did the same few months later, again on black tar. Woke up to a cop. Then again twice in a day, on "China white". And then again a CPL times after,when I had a few mgs of Klonopin in my system. Oh, and another time when I had "fake" Xanax and alcohol in me. Woke up in a CVS parking lot with the car running and an unopened bottle of vodka on the floor. Was on my way to my dealer and never made it. Different gf at my place asleep and.said I'd been gone since 8pm, and it was now 4am.

I could go on and on and on, cuz stories like mine aren't that rare. Shit they're not rare at all, but YOU for.some.reason get all butthurt and try to compare yourself to me. You should like a little boy throwing a tantrum.

Speaking of little.boys... you say I was "born with a silver spoon"?? Bwahahaha AND you want to compare childhoods? Wtf is wrong with you? You need therapy dude. Getting all butthurt over another guy on an internet forum, wanting to "compare childhoods"? Bwahahaha that's almost the dumbest thing I've seen you post yet.

WTF
Not Reading that Delusional Wall of Text
No Doubt More Nonsense about How Much / how soon / I did this / I did that
Bigger & Better Than Everyone.

Dream on.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 02:31:18 AM
My life makes this liars life look like a fairy tale.................... ................errrr oh wait !  LOL ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 02:36:12 AM
Just wanted to add that I have spoken and told my story in AA and NA well over 100 times or more in an effort to deter others from making the same mistakes I made.'

In no way am I glorifying my misspent life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,plus I did good by turning things around and being productive.

I might also add that I was a victim of circumstance at an early age. living in an abusive home.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 02:56:43 AM
That's a hell of a story. You need to learn how to handle your opioids. All in moderation my friend. Heroin can be a wonderful drug, if used in the right way and circumstances. But you need to consider it a treat of the opium gods, and not something to gorge yourself on.

Handle? I can "handle" 6,000mg+ (that's all I was willing to pay for each day, and by 6g/day,) I hadn't "gotten high" for over a year at that dose. Just using just not to be sick.

For some of us, if we have the means/$, we'll take that 1 Vicodin and an hour later we'll take another 40 (in my case literally... Crushed up and washed back with a mt. Dew), and In my case I've literally taken 40-60tabs of both Norco or perc10's, wayyy into liver faliure levels when I couldn't get heroin and had to get the the day or night... At least not once we've had a taste of addiction.

For people like me, with a taste for opiates, because they fill some sorta "hole" in us, there is no "moderation". We'll take as much as we can afford
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 02:59:40 AM
Just wanted to add that I have spoken and told my story in AA and NA well over 100 times or more in an effort to deter others from making the same mistakes I made.'

In no way am I glorifying my misspent life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,plus I did good by turning things around and being productive.

I might also add that I was a victim of circumstance at an early age. living in an abusive home.

Dude, the way you get butthurt on here about me telling "war stories" and how you feel the need 2say things like "I grew up in the streets you had a silver spoon in your mouth" and try to sound compare your stories and your life to mine,? somebody like that has no fucking business speaking at an NA meeting. No fucking business whatsoever. Maybe you should go to a fucking meeting every day of the week for the next walking month and just sit in back and shut your fucking mouth and listen you fucking holier-than-thou soapbox riding dry fucking drunk.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 03:07:39 AM
Btw, Wes, if you wanna give me a call or text and ask about anything you claim i say is a lie , feel free. My # isn't hard to get and i do/have/will reply spoken to many on these boards.

*Not tonight tho, it's 3am and I have to be up at 7.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 03:17:36 AM
Dude, the way you get butthurt on here about me telling "war stories" and how you feel the need 2say things like "I grew up in the streets you had a silver spoon in your mouth" and try to sound compare your stories and your life to mine,? somebody like that has no fucking business speaking at an NA meeting. No fucking business whatsoever. Maybe you should go to a fucking meeting every day of the week for the next walking month and just sit in back and shut your fucking mouth and listen you fucking holier-than-thou soapbox riding dry fucking drunk.
Listen fuckface,I`1m getting pretty sick of your bullshit lies.................far from butthurt you nitwit.

You hate me because you know that I have your number and I do not believe your shit like the other sheep here.

If you lived for an hour in my past life,you`d be fucking pushing up daisies.

Robbed stores,busses,taxis,houses,people,drugstores,stole cars,etc. etc.................just to survive because I had nothing.

I was one of a very few who grew up in a Black ghetto from the age of 5 years old..................... ...I had to be hard because I had to fight on the daily,being the only cracker in the hood.

My father beat up my mother and me and my 2 sisters constantly as he was a low down peice of shit drunk.

No silver spoons jammed up my ass buddy !

My fight game had to be good...........didn`t get put in PC like you did  in prison because there is no PC in the jungle I grew up in called the streets.

Third most dangerous place to live in Massachusetes.

More on this  later you liar.

Oh yeah for the guys who busted pellius about fighting that bum............where I come from if anyone shows you their cock,you rip it off and show them the other end of it that hey`ve never seen before.............take my burger = catch a beatdown.

Pellius did the right thing................... ....couldn`t care less how old hewas/is.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 03:20:11 AM
Btw, Wes, if you wanna give me a call or text and ask about anything you claim i say is a lie , feel free. My # isn't hard to get and i do/have/will reply spoken to many on these boards.

*Not tonight tho, it's 3am and I have to be up at 7.
I do not have to call you I have 4 of your former friends feeding me shit about you in my PM box.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 04:24:55 AM
Listen fuckface,I`1m getting pretty sick of your bullshit lies.................far from butthurt you nitwit.

You hate me because you know that I have your number and I do not believe your shit like the other sheep here.

If you lived for an hour in my past life,you`d be fucking pushing up daisies.

Robbed stores,busses,taxis,houses,people,drugstores,stole cars,etc. etc.................just to survive because I had nothing.

I was one of a very few who grew up in a Black ghetto from the age of 5 years old..................... ...I had to be hard because I had to fight on the daily,being the only cracker in the hood.

My father beat up my mother and me and my 2 sisters constantly as he was a low down peice of shit drunk.

No silver spoons jammed up my ass buddy !

My fight game had to be good...........didn`t get put in PC like you did  in prison because there is no PC in the jungle I grew up in called the streets.

Third most dangerous place to live in Massachusetes.

More on this  later you liar.

Oh yeah for the guys who busted pellius about fighting that bum............where I come from if anyone shows you their cock,you rip it off and show them the other end of it that hey`ve never seen before.............take my burger = catch a beatdown.

Pellius did the right thing................... ....couldn`t care less how old hewas/is.

Again, I read the first sentence thing you wrote and it's the same thing.... "Your lies your lies your lies!!! WAaaWAaaaWaaAaa

More meltdowns and more tantrums.

WHAT EXACTLY are you butthurt that you claim I'm lying about???

YOU EVER say. Ever.

Your same.stupid response is "I'm from the streets, I was a crackhead.if I didn't do it, there's no way YOU couldn't have!!! WAAaaa WAAAaaa Waaaa"

Somebody like you has NO BUSINESS speaking at AA/NA.

Youre a perfect example of the kind of person who has no business speaking at meetings because you have the fagile little ego and mentality that you go up there and rehash your old war stories, and you NEED to be the center of attention. If someone else has "war stories", your ego gets bruised and you NEED to speak at another meeting so people pay attention to you, with people in the audience rolling their eyes because they've all done the same shit. You go to NA/AA for attention and to talk, you don't go to listen.

The evidence is in this 27 pages of you having a meltdown over shit some guy you don't know and doesn't impact your life.

Pathetic. You're a textbook dry-drunk
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 04:26:22 AM
I do not have to call you I have 4 of your former friends feeding me shit about you in my PM box.

Hahaha it was 1

..then 2


..... Now it's 4.

Post their names. Now who's lying?

You're a pathetic fuck. Name'em liar.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 04:35:48 AM
Hahaha it was 1

..then 2


..... Now it's 4.

Post their names. Now who's lying?

You're a pathetic fuck. Name'em liar.
Name the pro bodybuilders that you trained chump.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 04:38:13 AM
I have every right to speak at an AA meeting you jerk,I drank off and on for 33 years..................h elped out many prople too,what have you done to help anyone?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 04:43:06 AM
28 pages to expose a liar is my intent fuckface.

You can tell that you`re getting all nervous and shit because you and I both know the truth and that truth is that you are a charlatan.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 04:45:10 AM
Again, I read the first sentence
You read the entire post and you know it.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 20, 2019, 04:49:13 AM
Wes is doing God’s work.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 04:50:57 AM
Part Three, XV

At eight o'clock Kutuzov rode to Pratz at the head of Miloradovich's fourth column, the one which was to take the place of the columns of Przebyszewski and Langeron, which had already gone down. He greeted the men of the head regiment and gave the order to move, thus showing that he intended to lead the column himself. Having ridden to the village of Pratz, he halted. Prince Andrei, one of the enormous number of persons constituting the commander in chief's suite, stood behind him. Prince Andrei felt excited, irritated, and at the same time restrainedly calm, as a man usually is when a long-desired moment comes. He was firmly convinced that this was the day of his Toulon or his bridge of Arcole.[1] How it would happen, he did not know, but he was firmly convinced that it would be so. The locality and position of our troops were known to him, as far as they could be known to anyone in our army. His own strategic plan, which there obviously could be no thought of carrying out now, was forgotten. Now, entering into Weyrother's plan, Prince Andrei pondered the possible happenstances and came up with new considerations, such as might call for his swiftness of reflection and decisiveness.

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To the left below, in the fog, exchanges of fire between unseen troops could be heard. There, it seemed to Prince Andrei, the battle would concentrate, there an obstacle would be encountered, and "it's there that I'll be sent with a brigade or division, and there, with a standard in my hand, I'll go forward and crush everything ahead of me."

Prince Andrei could not look with indifference at the standards of the battalions going past him. Looking at a standard, he thought: maybe it is that very standard with which I'll have to march at the head of the troops.

By morning the night's fog had left only hoarfrost turning into dew on the heights, but in the hollows the fog still spread its milk-white sea. Nothing could be seen in that hollow to the left, into which our troops had descended and from which came the sounds of gunfire. Over the heights was a dark, clear sky, and to the right-the enormous ball of the sun. Far ahead, on the other shore of the sea of fog, one could make out the jutting, wooded hills on which the enemy army was supposed to be, and something was discernible. To the right the guards were entering the region of the fog, with a sound of tramping and wheels and an occasional gleam of bayonets; to the left, beyond the village, similar masses of cavalry approached and disappeared into the sea of fog. In front and behind moved the infantry. The commander in chief stood on the road out of the village, letting the troops pass by him. Kutuzov seemed exhausted and irritable that morning. The infantry going past him halted without any command, apparently because something ahead held them up.

"But tell them, finally, to form into battalions and go around the village," Kutuzov said angrily to a general who rode up. "Don't you understand, Your Excellency, my dear sir, that to stretch out in a defile through village streets is impossible when we're marching against an enemy?"

"I intended to form them up outside the village, Your Excellency," said the general.

Kutuzov laughed biliously.

"A fine sight you'd be, lining up in view of the enemy, a very fine sight!"

"The enemy's still far off, Your Excellency. According to the disposition . . ."

"The disposition!" Kutuzov exclaimed biliously. "Who told you that? . . . Kindly do as you're ordered."

"Yes, sir!"

"Mon cher," Nesvitsky said to Prince Andrei in a whisper, "le vieux est d'une humeur de chien."[2]

An Austrian officer in a white uniform with green plumes on his hat rode up to Kutuzov and asked on behalf of the emperor whether the fourth column had started into action.

Kutuzov turned away without answering him, and his gaze chanced to rest on Prince Andrei, who was standing close by. Seeing Bolkonsky, Kutuzov softened the angry and caustic expression of his gaze, as if aware that his adjutant was not to blame for what was going on. And, without answering the Austrian adjutant, he addressed Bolkonsky:

"Allez voir, mon cher, si la troisième division a dépassé le village. Dites-lui de s'arrêter et d'attendre mes ordres."[3]

Prince Andrei had only just started when he stopped him.

"Et demandez-lui si les tirailleurs sont postés," he added. "Ce qu'ils font, ce qu'ils font!"[4] he said to himself, still not answering the Austrian.

Prince Andrei galloped off to carry out his mission.

Overtaking all the advancing battalions, he stopped the third division and ascertained that there was in fact no line of riflemen in front of our columns. The regimental commander of the front regiment was very surprised by the order conveyed to him from the commander in chief to send out riflemen. The regimental commander stood there in the full conviction that there were more troops ahead of him, and that the enemy was no less than six miles away. In fact, nothing could be seen ahead but empty terrain sloping away and covered with thick fog. Having ordered on behalf of the commander in chief that the omission be rectified, Prince Andrei galloped back. Kutuzov still stood in the same place and, his corpulent body sagging over the saddle in old man's fashion, yawned deeply, closing his eyes. The troops were no longer moving, but stood at parade rest.

"Very good, very good," he said to Prince Andrei and turned to a general who stood there with a watch in his hand, saying it was time to move on, because all the columns of the left flank had already descended.

"We still have time, Your Excellency," Kutuzov said through a yawn. "We have time!" he repeated.

Just then, from well behind Kutuzov, came shouts of regimental greetings, and these voices began to approach quickly along the whole extended line of the advancing Russian columns. It was clear that the one being greeted was riding quickly. When the soldiers of the regiment Kutuzov was standing in front of began to shout, he rode slightly to one side and, wincing, turned to look. Down the road from Pratz galloped what looked like a squadron of varicolored horsemen. Two of them rode side by side at a great gallop ahead of the rest. One, in a black uniform with white plumes, rode a bobtailed chestnut horse, the other, in a white uniform, rode a black horse. These were the two emperors with their suite. Kutuzov, with the affectation of a frontline veteran, ordered his standing troops to "attention" and, saluting, rode up to the emperor. His whole figure and manner suddenly changed. He acquired the look of a subordinate, unthinking man. With affected deference, which obviously struck the emperor Alexander unpleasantly, he rode up and saluted him.

The unpleasant impression, like the remains of fog in a clear sky, passed over the emperor's young and happy face and disappeared. He was somewhat thinner that day, after his illness, than on the field of Olmütz, where Bolkonsky had seen him for the first time abroad, but there was the same enchanting combination of majesty and mildness in his beautiful gray eyes, and the fine lips had the same possibility of various expressions, with a prevalent expression of good-natured, innocent youth.

At the Olmütz review he was more majestic; here he was more cheerful and energetic. He was slightly flushed after galloping two miles and, reining in his horse, gave a sigh of relief and looked around at the faces of his suite, as young, as animated as his own. Czartoryski and Novosiltsev, and Prince Volkonsky and Stroganov, and the others, all richly clad, cheerful young men on splendid, pampered, fresh, only slightly sweaty horses, talking and smiling, stopped behind the sovereign. The emperor Franz, a ruddy, long-faced young man, sat extremely straight on his handsome black stallion and looked around him with a preoccupied, unhurried air. He called up one of his white adjutants and asked something. "Most likely what time they started," thought Prince Andrei, observing his old aquaintance, and recalling his audience with a smile he was unable to repress. In the emperors' suite there were picked fine young orderly officers, Russian and Austrian, from the guards and infantry regiments. Among them were grooms leading the handsome spare horses of the royalty in embroidered cloths.

As fresh air from the fields suddenly breathes through an open window into a stuffy room, so youth, energy, and certainty of success breathed upon Kutuzov's cheerless staff as these brilliant young men galloped up.

"Why don't you begin, Mikhail Larionovich?" the emperor Alexander hurriedly addressed Kutuzov, at the same time glancing courteously at the emperor Franz.

"I am waiting, Your Majesty," answered Kutuzov, inclining deferentially.

The emperor cupped his ear, frowning slightly and showing that he had not heard properly.

"I'm waiting, Your Majesty," Kutuzov repeated (Prince Andrei noticed that Kutuzov's upper lip twitched unnaturally as he said this "waiting"). "Not all the columns are assembled, Your Majesty."

The sovereign heard, but this reply clearly did not please him; he shrugged his slightly stooping shoulders, glanced at Novosiltsev, who stood nearby, as if complaining of Kutuzov by this glance.

"We're not on the Tsaritsyn Field,[5] Mikhail Larionovich, where you don't start a parade until all the regiments are assembled," said the sovereign, again glancing into the eyes of the emperor Franz, as though inviting him, if not to take part, at least to listen to what he was saying; but the emperor Franz went on looking around and did not listen.

"That is just why I do not begin, Sire," Kutuzov said in a ringing voice, as if to forestall the possibility of not being heard, and again something twitched in his face. "I do not begin, Sire, because we are not on parade and not on the Tsaritsyn Field," he uttered clearly and distinctly.

All the faces in the sovereign's suite instantly exchanged glances with each other, expressing murmur and reproach. "Old as he may be, he should not, he simply should not speak that way," these faces expressed.

The sovereign looked fixedly and attentively into Kutuzov's eyes, waiting to see if he would say something more. But Kutuzov, for his part, bowed his head deferentially and also seemed to be waiting. The silence lasted for about a minute.

"However, if you order it, Your Majesty," said Kutuzov, raising his head and again changing his tone to that of a dull, unthinking, but obedient general.

He touched up his horse and, calling to him the column leader Miloradovich, gave him the order to advance.

The troops stirred again, and two battalions of the Novgorodsky regiment and a battalion of the Apsheronsky regiment moved on past the sovereign.

While this Apsheronsky battalion was marching by, ruddy-faced Miloradovich, with no greatcoat, in his uniform tunic and decorations and a hat with enormous plumes, worn at an angle and brim first, galloped ahead hup-two, and with a dashing salute, reined in his horse before the sovereign.

"God be with you, General," said the sovereign.

"Ma foi, sire, nous ferons ce que qui sera dans notre possibilité, sire!"[6] he replied merrily, nevertheless calling up mocking smiles among the gentlemen of the suite with his bad French.

Miloradovich turned his horse sharply and placed himself slightly behind the sovereign. The Apsherontsy, excited by the presence of the sovereign, marched past the emperors and their suite at a dashingly brisk pace, beating their feet.

"Lads!" cried Miloradovich in a loud, self-assured, and merry voice, obviously so excited by the sounds of gunfire, the anticipation of battle, and the sight of his gallant Apsherontsy-his companions from Suvorov's time-marching briskly past the emperors, that he forgot the sovereign's presence. "Lads, it won't be the first village you've taken!" he shouted.

"We do our best, sir!" the soldiers shouted out.

The sovereign's horse shied at the sudden shout. This horse, who had carried the sovereign at reviews while still in Russia, also carried her rider here, on the field of Austerlitz, enduring the distracted nudges of his left foot, pricked up her ears at the sound of gunshots just as she did on the Field of Mars, understanding neither the meaning of the shots she heard, nor the presence of the emperor Franz's black stallion, nor anything of what her rider said, thought, or felt that day.

The sovereign turned with a smile to one of his retinue, pointing to the gallant Apsherontsy, and said something to him.

XVI

Kutuzov, accompanied by his adjutants, rode at a walk behind the carabineers.

Having gone less than half a mile at the tail of the column, he stopped by a solitary, deserted house (probably a former tavern), where the road forked. Both roads went down the hill, and troops were marching along both.

The fog began to lift, and enemy troops could be dimly seen about a mile and a half away on the heights opposite. To the left below, the gunfire was growing louder. Kutuzov stopped, talking with an Austrian general. Prince Andrei, standing slightly behind him, peered at the enemy and turned to an adjutant, wishing to borrow a field glass from him.

"Look, look," said this adjutant, looking not at the distant troops, but down the hill in front of him. "It's the French!"

The two generals and the adjutants began snatching at the field glass, pulling it away from each other. All their faces suddenly changed, and on all of them horror appeared. The French were supposed to be a mile and a half from us, and they suddenly turned up right in front of us.

"Is it the enemy? . . . No! . . . Yes, look, he's . . . for certain . . . What is this?" voices said.

With his naked eye, Prince Andrei saw below, to the right, a dense column of French coming up to meet the Apsherontsy, no further than five hundred paces from where Kutuzov was standing.

"Here it is, the decisive moment has come! Now it's my turn," thought Prince Andrei, and, spurring his horse, he rode up to Kutuzov.

"The Apsherontsy must be stopped, Your Excellency!" he cried.

But at that same moment everything became covered with smoke, there was the sound of gunfire nearby, and a naively frightened voice two steps from Prince Andrei cried: "Well, brothers, that's it for us!" And it was as if this voice was a command. At this voice everyone began to run.

Confused, ever increasing crowds came running back to the place where, five minutes before, the troops had marched past the emperors. Not only was it difficult to stop this crowd, but it was impossible not to yield and move back with it. Bolkonsky tried only not to be separated from Kutuzov and looked around in perplexity, unable to understand what was happening in front of him. Nesvitsky, looking angry, red, and not like himself, shouted to Kutuzov that if he did not leave at once, he would certainly be taken prisoner. Kutuzov stood in the same place and, without responding, took out his handkerchief. Blood was flowing from his cheek. Prince Andrei forced his way to him.

"Are you wounded?" he asked, barely able to control the trembling of his lower jaw.

"The wound isn't here, it's there!" said Kutuzov, pressing the handkerchief to his wounded cheek and pointing to the fleeing men.

"Stop them!" he cried, and at the same time, probably realizing that it was impossible to stop them, spurred his horse and rode to the right.

A fresh crowd of fleeing men streamed past, caught him up, and carried him backwards.

The troops were fleeing in such a dense crowd that, once one landed in the middle of it, it was difficult to get out. Someone shouted, "Keep going, don't drag your feet!" Another, turning around, fired into the air; someone else struck the horse on which Kutuzov himself was riding. Extricating themselves with the greatest effort from the flow of the crowd to the left, Kutuzov and his suite, diminished by more than half, rode towards the sounds of nearby cannon fire. Extricating himself from the crowd of fleeing men, Prince Andrei, trying to keep up with Kutuzov, saw on the slope of the hill, amidst the smoke, a Russian battery still firing, and the French running up to it. Slightly higher stood Russian infantry, neither moving ahead to aid the battery, nor backwards in the direction of the fugitives. A general on horseback separated himself from the infantry and rode up to Kutuzov. There were only four men left in Kutuzov's suite. They were all pale and exchanged glances silently.

"Stop those villains!" Kutuzov said breathlessly to the regimental commander, pointing to the fleeing men; but at the same moment, as if in punishment for those words, bullets, like a flock of birds, flew whistling at the regiment and Kutuzov's suite.

The French had attacked the battery and, seeing Kutuzov, were shooting at him. With this volley, the regimental commander seized his leg; several soldiers fell, and an ensign holding a standard let it drop from his hands; the standard wavered and fell, stopped momentarily by the bayonets of the soldiers around it. The soldiers began firing without any orders.

"Oooh!" Kutuzov moaned with an expression of despair and looked around. "Bolkonsky," he whispered in a voice trembling with awareness of his old man's strengthlessness. "Bolkonsky," he whispered, pointing to the disordered battalion and the enemy, "what's going on?"

But before he finished saying it, Prince Andrei, feeling sobs of shame and anger rising in his throat, was already jumping off his horse and running towards the standard.

"Forward, lads!" he cried in a childishly shrill voice.

"Here it is!" thought Prince Andrei, seizing the staff of the standard and hearing with delight the whistle of bullets, evidently aimed precisely at him. Several soldiers fell.

"Hurrah!" cried Prince Andrei, barely able to hold up the heavy standard, and he ran forward with unquestioning assurance that the entire battalion would run after him.

And indeed he ran only a few steps alone. One soldier started out, another, and the whole battalion, with a shout of "Hurrah!" rushed forward and overtook him. A sergeant of the battalion ran up, took the standard that was wavering in Prince Andrei's hands because of its weight, but was killed at once. Prince Andrei again seized the standard and, dragging it by the staff, ran with the battalion. Ahead of him he saw our artillerists, some of whom were fighting, while others abandoned the cannon and came running in his direction; he also saw French infantrymen, who had seized the artillery horses and were turning the cannon. Prince Andrei and his battalion were now twenty paces from the cannon. Above him he heard the unceasing whistle of bullets, and soldiers ceaselessly gasped and fell to right and left of him. But he did not look at them; he looked fixedly only at what was happening ahead of him-at the battery. He clearly saw the figure of a red-haired gunner, his shako knocked askew, pulling a swab from one side, while a French soldier pulled it towards him from the other side. Prince Andrei saw clearly the bewildered and at the same time angry expression on the faces of the two men, who evidently did not understand what they were doing.

"What are they doing?" Prince Andrei wondered, looking at them. "Why doesn't the red-haired artillerist run away, since he has no weapon? Why doesn't the Frenchman stab him? Before he runs away, the Frenchman will remember his musket and bayonet him."

In fact, another Frenchman with his musket atilt ran up to the fighting men, and the lot of the red-haired artillerist, who still did not understand what awaited him and triumphantly pulled the swab from the French soldier's hands, was about to be decided. But Prince Andrei did not see how it ended. It seemed to him as though one of the nearest soldiers, with the full swing of a stout stick, hit him on the head. It was slightly painful and above all unpleasant, because the pain distracted him and kept him from seeing what he had been looking at.

"What is it? am I falling? are my legs giving way under me?" he thought, and fell on his back. He opened his eyes, hoping to see how the fight between the French and the artillerists ended, and wishing to know whether or not the red-haired artillerist had been killed, whether the cannon had been taken or saved. But he did not see anything. There was nothing over him now except the sky-the lofty sky, not clear, but still immeasurably lofty, with gray clouds slowly creeping across it. "How quiet, calm, and solemn, not at all like when I was running," thought Prince Andrei, "not like when we were running, shouting, and fighting; not at all like when the Frenchman and the artillerist, with angry and frightened faces, were pulling at the swab-it's quite different the way the clouds creep across this lofty, infinite sky. How is it I haven't seen this lofty sky before? And how happy I am that I've finally come to know it. Yes! everything is empty, everything is a deception, except this infinite sky. There is nothing, nothing except that. But there is not even that, there is nothing except silence, tranquillity. And thank God! . . ."

Notes

[1] On 17 November 1796, fighting the Austrians in northern Italy, Napoleon, at the head of his grenadier and with a banner in this hand, charged onto the bridge at Arcole to keep the enemy from taking it. The plague that was raging in Jaffa when the French stormed the city afflicted both the local population and the French army. Napoleon visited the plague victims in the hospital with his marshals Berthier and Bessières, an incident commemorated by the French painter Jean-Antoine Gros (1771-1835) in The Plague Victims of Jaffa (1804).

[2] My dear . . . the old man's in a foul humor.

[3] Go and see, my dear, if the third division has passed the village. Tell him to stop and wait for my orders.

[4] And ask him if the riflemen are posted . . . What they're doing, what they're doing!

[5] A square in Petersburg used as a parade ground. In 1818 the name was changed to Marsovo Polie ("the Field of Mars").

[6] By my faith, Sire, we will do that what which will be within our possibility, Sire!

Excerpted from War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy Copyright © 2007 by Leo Tolstoy. Excerpted by permission of Knopf, a division of Random House, Inc. All rights reserved. No part of this excerpt may be reproduced or reprinted without permission in writing from the publisher.

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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 04:51:58 AM
^TYPICAL DEFLECTION TYPE POST BY ESF^

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 20, 2019, 07:11:01 AM
Ladies, please! Contrary to what you might think, you can all be fuckups on Getbig. Now, as to who should be labelled the biggest fuckup, that is yet to be decided but I am trying to assemble a 'Getbig's Biggest Fuckup Assessment Team' in order to choose a worthy winner. Wes, a lifetime of theft, numerous drug overdoses, and robbing/assaulting innocent and similarly impoverished members of society absolutely does make you a worthy contender, so do not worry. Likewise, your friend Pellius punching a mentally ill vulnerable adult then running home to proudly post a photograph of his swollen hand on Getbig, followed by the hilarious retrospective justification of doing so in order to aid democracy, absolutely puts him in the running, too. Eric and his inability to mediate his behavior or tone down his delusions of grandeur will be considered, but we must bear in mind that this is the result of clear mental illness so points will be lost. Those participating in the 'let's all relentlessly harass a mentally ill man online' circle-jerk may receive an honorable mention, but the competition is incredibly stiff this year, so no promises can be made. However, Coach outing a respected member's personal info and declaring him 'unfit to practice' because his beloved sport of bodybuilding was mocked may well be enough to secure him the win. More so when his blatant hypocrisy regarding drug use and conservative values (e.g. respecting the sanctity of marriage) are factored in. One thing is for sure, though, the competition will be a lot more exciting than this year's Olympia!

Tex.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 20, 2019, 07:33:06 AM
Handle? I can "handle" 6,000mg+ (that's all I was willing to pay for each day, and by 6g/day,) I hadn't "gotten high" for over a year at that dose. Just using just not to be sick.

For some of us, if we have the means/$, we'll take that 1 Vicodin and an hour later we'll take another 40 (in my case literally... Crushed up and washed back with a mt. Dew), and In my case I've literally taken 40-60tabs of both Norco or perc10's, wayyy into liver faliure levels when I couldn't get heroin and had to get the the day or night... At least not once we've had a taste of addiction.

For people like me, with a taste for opiates, because they fill some sorta "hole" in us, there is no "moderation". We'll take as much as we can afford

Wait, let me clarify what you are saying. You injected 6 grams of brown in a day and didn't get high?!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 20, 2019, 07:39:59 AM
I cant believe I just read everything.

I like ESF and kind of dig Wes lately as well. Not taking sides, just watching the whole thing...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 20, 2019, 07:47:01 AM
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 08:39:46 AM
Ladies, please! Contrary to what you might think, you can all be fuckups on Getbig. Now, as to who should be labelled the biggest fuckup, that is yet to be decided but I am trying to assemble a 'Getbig's Biggest Fuckup Assessment Team' in order to choose a worthy winner. Wes, a lifetime of theft, numerous drug overdoses, and robbing/assaulting innocent and similarly impoverished members of society absolutely does make you a worthy contender, so do not worry. Likewise, your friend Pellius punching a mentally ill vulnerable adult then running home to proudly post a photograph of his swollen hand on Getbig, followed by the hilarious retrospective justification of doing so in order to aid democracy, absolutely puts him in the running, too. Eric and his inability to mediate his behavior or tone down his delusions of grandeur will be considered, but we must bear in mind that this is the result of clear mental illness so points will be lost. Those participating in the 'let's all relentlessly harass a mentally ill man online' circle-jerk may receive an honorable mention, but the competition is incredibly stiff this year, so no promises can be made. However, Coach outing a respected member's personal info and declaring him 'unfit to practice' because his beloved sport of bodybuilding was mocked may well be enough to secure him the win. More so when his blatant hypocrisy regarding drug use and conservative values (e.g. respecting the sanctity of marriage) are factored in. One thing is for sure, though, the competition will be a lot more exciting than this year's Olympia!

Tex.


paragraphs?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2019, 08:42:42 AM
Despite constant questioning, ESF has not mentioned a single person he turned pro.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 08:47:39 AM
Wait, let me clarify what you are saying. You injected 6 grams of brown in a day and didn't get high?!

He simply defies science, 250mgs can kill someone, I know you can build up a tollerance but 6gms is simply off the charts , chances are that would kill a Rhino
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 08:48:16 AM
Despite constant questioning, ESF has not mentioned a single person he turned pro.
Im pretty sure he doesnt train anyone, it defies logic why anyone would ask him for advice
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2019, 09:35:57 AM
Im pretty sure he doesnt train anyone, it defies logic why anyone would ask him for advice


True.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 20, 2019, 09:37:30 AM
He simply defies science, 250mgs can kill someone, I know you can build up a tollerance but 6gms is simply off the charts , chances are that would kill a Rhino


Yeah, must be shit gear to do that much. Half a gram of good shit will fuck most users up.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 09:44:28 AM
Yeah, must be shit gear to do that much. Half a gram of good shit will fuck most users up.

If everything that has been said about him is true I suspect he was at the very bottom of the heroin food chain, Im sure he would have been better sweetening his coffee with it
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2019, 10:04:37 AM
Ladies, please! Contrary to what you might think, you can all be fuckups on Getbig. Now, as to who should be labelled the biggest fuckup, that is yet to be decided but I am trying to assemble a 'Getbig's Biggest Fuckup Assessment Team' in order to choose a worthy winner. Wes, a lifetime of theft, numerous drug overdoses, and robbing/assaulting innocent and similarly impoverished members of society absolutely does make you a worthy contender, so do not worry. Likewise, your friend Pellius punching a mentally ill vulnerable adult then running home to proudly post a photograph of his swollen hand on Getbig, followed by the hilarious retrospective justification of doing so in order to aid democracy, absolutely puts him in the running, too. Eric and his inability to mediate his behavior or tone down his delusions of grandeur will be considered, but we must bear in mind that this is the result of clear mental illness so points will be lost. Those participating in the 'let's all relentlessly harass a mentally ill man online' circle-jerk may receive an honorable mention, but the competition is incredibly stiff this year, so no promises can be made. However, Coach outing a respected member's personal info and declaring him 'unfit to practice' because his beloved sport of bodybuilding was mocked may well be enough to secure him the win. More so when his blatant hypocrisy regarding drug use and conservative values (e.g. respecting the sanctity of marriage) are factored in. One thing is for sure, though, the competition will be a lot more exciting than this year's Olympia!

Tex.


What do I win, Gimmick?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 10:07:34 AM
Despite constant questioning, ESF has not mentioned a single person he turned pro.

I'm also a fucken drug dealer. Would you want me naming YOU as a client and having YOUR NAME attached to mine?

Are you as dumb as Wes?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 10:17:56 AM
You read the entire post and you know it.  LOL  ;D

Nope, I actually didn't and still haven't. I don't care what you have to say because I've seen it all already. A grown man who loves the attention he gets speaking in AA and telling "war stories" and you still have no clue that the people in AA who have to sit and listen to you are rolling their eyes and laughing at you because they all have "war stories" just like yours, except MOST PEOPLE who speak at meetings (must less people who've spoken at "over 100" meetings), don't tell "war stories". It's only insecure losers like you who do.

Look at how butthurt you get when I take a trip down memory lane and type something out. You throw a tantrum and want all the attention turned towards you "I'm from the streets! The MEAN streets!", "My friends were all junkies who stole to feed their addictions!" Etc etc etc...when I've never gave a fuck in the first place.

It's always been you who's been butthurt, throwing tantrums and having meltdowns over what I post.

You cry "lie lie lie", without saying WHAT the fuck you think is a lie.

Then you claim all these "friends" from San Diego (where I haven't lived for almost 15 fucken years, idiot) are Pming you.

First it was 1 friend.

Then your lie grew to 2 people.

Then your lie has grown to 4! People.

And you've yet to say who these people are or what they say lol.

Pathetic for a grown man whos spoken at "over 100" AA meetings.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2019, 10:26:52 AM
Ladies, please! Contrary to what you might think, you can all be fuckups on Getbig. Now, as to who should be labelled the biggest fuckup, that is yet to be decided but I am trying to assemble a 'Getbig's Biggest Fuckup Assessment Team' in order to choose a worthy winner. Wes, a lifetime of theft, numerous drug overdoses, and robbing/assaulting innocent and similarly impoverished members of society absolutely does make you a worthy contender, so do not worry. Likewise, your friend Pellius punching a mentally ill vulnerable adult then running home to proudly post a photograph of his swollen hand on Getbig, followed by the hilarious retrospective justification of doing so in order to aid democracy, absolutely puts him in the running, too. Eric and his inability to mediate his behavior or tone down his delusions of grandeur will be considered, but we must bear in mind that this is the result of clear mental illness so points will be lost. Those participating in the 'let's all relentlessly harass a mentally ill man online' circle-jerk may receive an honorable mention, but the competition is incredibly stiff this year, so no promises can be made. However, Coach outing a respected member's personal info and declaring him 'unfit to practice' because his beloved sport of bodybuilding was mocked may well be enough to secure him the win. More so when his blatant hypocrisy regarding drug use and conservative values (e.g. respecting the sanctity of marriage) are factored in. One thing is for sure, though, the competition will be a lot more exciting than this year's Olympia!

Tex.


For the record dumbass, I didn’t out him. No one knows his name, his address, phone, place of work or anything else. Nice try tho
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 10:30:07 AM
He simply defies science, 250mgs can kill someone, I know you can build up a tollerance but 6gms is simply off the charts , chances are that would kill a Rhino


250mgs? Dude, 250mgs wouldn't touch my tolerance. I was doing 1-1.5g shots at a time just to not be sick.

250mgs may kill a little kid or a girl who has benzos in their system and zero opiate tolerance, but I was over the 250mg line after about a month.

When I was in the hospital shooting those YouTube videos, before each of those vids I'd gotten a 2mg diluadid shot, which I got every other hour (& I was awake all day/night so I wouldn't miss one. They wouldn't give it if I was asleep), and the hours I didn't get the IV diluadid, I got 30mg instant release oxycodone. On top of that I got 3 80mg oxy continuous release (regardless of if I got either a diluadid or oxy instant at the same time).

That's 520-600mg oxy and 24mg diluadid IV per day.

And I was up and walking around right after each shot. Opiates have never made me "nod" out like the bums you see drooling on themselves at busstops.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 10:31:10 AM
Nope, I actually didn't and still haven't. I don't care what you have to say because I've seen it all already. A grown man who loves the attention he gets speaking in AA and telling "war stories" and you still have no clue that the people in AA who have to sit and listen to you are rolling their eyes and laughing at you because they all have "war stories" just like yours, except MOST PEOPLE who speak at meetings (must less people who've spoken at "over 100" meetings), don't tell "war stories". It's only insecure losers like you who do.

Look at how butthurt you get when I take a trip down memory lane and type something out. You throw a tantrum and want all the attention turned towards you "I'm from the streets! The MEAN streets!", "My friends were all junkies who stole to feed their addictions!" Etc etc etc...when I've never gave a fuck in the first place.

It's always been you who's been butthurt, throwing tantrums and having meltdowns over what I post.

You cry "lie lie lie", without saying WHAT the fuck you think is a lie.

Then you claim all these "friends" from San Diego (where I haven't lived for almost 15 fucken years, idiot) are Pming you.

First it was 1 friend.

Then your lie grew to 2 people.

Then your lie has grown to 4! People.

And you've yet to say who these people are or what they say lol.

Pathetic for a grown man whos spoken at "over 100" AA meetings.

Pathetic.

I would hazard a guess that it starts with the first letter ends with the last letter and includes all the letters in-between.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 10:35:00 AM
250mgs? Dude, 250mgs wouldn't touch my tolerance. I was doing 1-1.5g shots at a time just to not be sick.

250mgs may kill a little kid or a girl who has benzos in their system and zero opiate tolerance, but I was over the 250mg line after about a month.

When I was in the hospital shooting those YouTube videos, before each of those vids I'd gotten a 2mg diluadid shot, which I got every other hour (& I was awake all day/night so I wouldn't miss one. They wouldn't give it if I was asleep), and the hours I didn't get the IV diluadid, I got 30mg instant release oxycodone. On top of that I got 3 80mg oxy continuous release (regardless of if I got either a diluadid or oxy instant at the same time).

That's 520-600mg oxy and 24mg diluadid IV per day.

And I was up and walking around right after each shot. Opiates have never made me "nod" out like the bums you see drooling on themselves at busstops.
Handle? I can "handle" 6,000mg+ (that's all I was willing to pay for each day, and by 6g/day,) I hadn't "gotten high" for over a year at that dose. Just using just not to be sick.

For some of us, if we have the means/$, we'll take that 1 Vicodin and an hour later we'll take another 40 (in my case literally... Crushed up and washed back with a mt. Dew), and In my case I've literally taken 40-60tabs of both Norco or perc10's, wayyy into liver faliure levels when I couldn't get heroin and had to get the the day or night... At least not once we've had a taste of addiction.

For people like me, with a taste for opiates, because they fill some sorta "hole" in us, there is no "moderation". We'll take as much as we can afford

which was it?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 20, 2019, 10:37:43 AM
At eight o'clock Kutuzov rode to Pratz at the head of Miloradovich's fourth column, the one which was to take the place of the columns of Przebyszewski and Langeron, which had already gone down. He greeted the men of the head regiment and gave the order to move, thus showing that he intended to lead the column himself. Having ridden to the village of Pratz, he halted. Prince Andrei, one of the enormous number of persons constituting the commander in chief's suite, stood behind him. Prince Andrei felt excited, irritated, and at the same time restrainedly calm, as a man usually is when a long-desired moment comes. He was firmly convinced that this was the day of his Toulon or his bridge of Arcole. How it would happen, he did not know, but he was firmly convinced that it would be so. The locality and position of our troops were known to him, as far as they could be known to anyone in our army. His own strategic plan, which there obviously could be no thought of carrying out now, was forgotten. Now, entering into Weyrother's plan, Prince Andrei pondered the possible happenstances and came up with new considerations, such as might call for his swiftness of reflection and decisiveness.

To the left below, in the fog, exchanges of fire between unseen troops could be heard. There, it seemed to Prince Andrei, the battle would concentrate, there an obstacle would be encountered, and "it's there that I'll be sent with a brigade or division, and there, with a standard in my hand, I'll go forward and crush everything ahead of me."

Prince Andrei could not look with indifference at the standards of the battalions going past him. Looking at a standard, he thought: maybe it is that very standard with which I'll have to march at the head of the troops.

By morning the night's fog had left only hoarfrost turning into dew on the heights, but in the hollows the fog still spread its milk-white sea. Nothing could be seen in that hollow to the left, into which our troops had descended and from which came the sounds of gunfire. Over the heights was a dark, clear sky, and to the right-the enormous ball of the sun. Far ahead, on the other shore of the sea of fog, one could make out the jutting, wooded hills on which the enemy army was supposed to be, and something was discernible. To the right the guards were entering the region of the fog, with a sound of tramping and wheels and an occasional gleam of bayonets; to the left, beyond the village, similar masses of cavalry approached and disappeared into the sea of fog. In front and behind moved the infantry. The commander in chief stood on the road out of the village, letting the troops pass by him. Kutuzov seemed exhausted and irritable that morning. The infantry going past him halted without any command, apparently because something ahead held them up.

"But tell them, finally, to form into battalions and go around the village," Kutuzov said angrily to a general who rode up. "Don't you understand, Your Excellency, my dear sir, that to stretch out in a defile through village streets is impossible when we're marching against an enemy?"

"I intended to form them up outside the village, Your Excellency," said the general.

Kutuzov laughed biliously.

"A fine sight you'd be, lining up in view of the enemy, a very fine sight!"

"The enemy's still far off, Your Excellency. According to the disposition . . ."

"The disposition!" Kutuzov exclaimed biliously. "Who told you that? . . . Kindly do as you're ordered."

"Yes, sir!"

"Mon cher," Nesvitsky said to Prince Andrei in a whisper, "le vieux est d'une humeur de chien."

An Austrian officer in a white uniform with green plumes on his hat rode up to Kutuzov and asked on behalf of the emperor whether the fourth column had started into action.

Kutuzov turned away without answering him, and his gaze chanced to rest on Prince Andrei, who was standing close by. Seeing Bolkonsky, Kutuzov softened the angry and caustic expression of his gaze, as if aware that his adjutant was not to blame for what was going on. And, without answering the Austrian adjutant, he addressed Bolkonsky:

"Allez voir, mon cher, si la troisième division a dépassé le village. Dites-lui de s'arrêter et d'attendre mes ordres."

Prince Andrei had only just started when he stopped him.

"Et demandez-lui si les tirailleurs sont postés," he added. "Ce qu'ils font, ce qu'ils font!" he said to himself, still not answering the Austrian.

Prince Andrei galloped off to carry out his mission.

Overtaking all the advancing battalions, he stopped the third division and ascertained that there was in fact no line of riflemen in front of our columns. The regimental commander of the front regiment was very surprised by the order conveyed to him from the commander in chief to send out riflemen. The regimental commander stood there in the full conviction that there were more troops ahead of him, and that the enemy was no less than six miles away. In fact, nothing could be seen ahead but empty terrain sloping away and covered with thick fog. Having ordered on behalf of the commander in chief that the omission be rectified, Prince Andrei galloped back. Kutuzov still stood in the same place and, his corpulent body sagging over the saddle in old man's fashion, yawned deeply, closing his eyes. The troops were no longer moving, but stood at parade rest.

"Very good, very good," he said to Prince Andrei and turned to a general who stood there with a watch in his hand, saying it was time to move on, because all the columns of the left flank had already descended.

"We still have time, Your Excellency," Kutuzov said through a yawn. "We have time!" he repeated.

Just then, from well behind Kutuzov, came shouts of regimental greetings, and these voices began to approach quickly along the whole extended line of the advancing Russian columns. It was clear that the one being greeted was riding quickly. When the soldiers of the regiment Kutuzov was standing in front of began to shout, he rode slightly to one side and, wincing, turned to look. Down the road from Pratz galloped what looked like a squadron of varicolored horsemen. Two of them rode side by side at a great gallop ahead of the rest. One, in a black uniform with white plumes, rode a bobtailed chestnut horse, the other, in a white uniform, rode a black horse. These were the two emperors with their suite. Kutuzov, with the affectation of a frontline veteran, ordered his standing troops to "attention" and, saluting, rode up to the emperor. His whole figure and manner suddenly changed. He acquired the look of a subordinate, unthinking man. With affected deference, which obviously struck the emperor Alexander unpleasantly, he rode up and saluted him.

The unpleasant impression, like the remains of fog in a clear sky, passed over the emperor's young and happy face and disappeared. He was somewhat thinner that day, after his illness, than on the field of Olmütz, where Bolkonsky had seen him for the first time abroad, but there was the same enchanting combination of majesty and mildness in his beautiful gray eyes, and the fine lips had the same possibility of various expressions, with a prevalent expression of good-natured, innocent youth.

At the Olmütz review he was more majestic; here he was more cheerful and energetic. He was slightly flushed after galloping two miles and, reining in his horse, gave a sigh of relief and looked around at the faces of his suite, as young, as animated as his own. Czartoryski and Novosiltsev, and Prince Volkonsky and Stroganov, and the others, all richly clad, cheerful young men on splendid, pampered, fresh, only slightly sweaty horses, talking and smiling, stopped behind the sovereign. The emperor Franz, a ruddy, long-faced young man, sat extremely straight on his handsome black stallion and looked around him with a preoccupied, unhurried air. He called up one of his white adjutants and asked something. "Most likely what time they started," thought Prince Andrei, observing his old aquaintance, and recalling his audience with a smile he was unable to repress. In the emperors' suite there were picked fine young orderly officers, Russian and Austrian, from the guards and infantry regiments. Among them were grooms leading the handsome spare horses of the royalty in embroidered cloths.

The emperor cupped his ear, frowning slightly and showing that he had not heard properly.

"I'm waiting, Your Majesty," Kutuzov repeated (Prince Andrei noticed that Kutuzov's upper lip twitched unnaturally as he said this "waiting"). "Not all the columns are assembled, Your Majesty."

The sovereign heard, but this reply clearly did not please him; he shrugged his slightly stooping shoulders, glanced at Novosiltsev, who stood nearby, as if complaining of Kutuzov by this glance.

"We're not on the Tsaritsyn Field, Mikhail Larionovich, where you don't start a parade until all the regiments are assembled," said the sovereign, again glancing into the eyes of the emperor Franz, as though inviting him, if not to take part, at least to listen to what he was saying; but the emperor Franz went on looking around and did not listen.

"That is just why I do not begin, Sire," Kutuzov said in a ringing voice, as if to forestall the possibility of not being heard, and again something twitched in his face. "I do not begin, Sire, because we are not on parade and not on the Tsaritsyn Field," he uttered clearly and distinctly.

All the faces in the sovereign's suite instantly exchanged glances with each other, expressing murmur and reproach. "Old as he may be, he should not, he simply should not speak that way," these faces expressed.

The sovereign looked fixedly and attentively into Kutuzov's eyes, waiting to see if he would say something more. But Kutuzov, for his part, bowed his head deferentially and also seemed to be waiting. The silence lasted for about a minute.

"However, if you order it, Your Majesty," said Kutuzov, raising his head and again changing his tone to that of a dull, unthinking, but obedient general.

He touched up his horse and, calling to him the column leader Miloradovich, gave him the order to advance.

The troops stirred again, and two battalions of the Novgorodsky regiment and a battalion of the Apsheronsky regiment moved on past the sovereign.

While this Apsheronsky battalion was marching by, ruddy-faced Miloradovich, with no greatcoat, in his uniform tunic and decorations and a hat with enormous plumes, worn at an angle and brim first, galloped ahead hup-two, and with a dashing salute, reined in his horse before the sovereign.

"God be with you, General," said the sovereign.

"Ma foi, sire, nous ferons ce que qui sera dans notre possibilité, sire!" he replied merrily, nevertheless calling up mocking smiles among the gentlemen of the suite with his bad French.

Miloradovich turned his horse sharply and placed himself slightly behind the sovereign. The Apsherontsy, excited by the presence of the sovereign, marched past the emperors and their suite at a dashingly brisk pace, beating their feet.

"Lads!" cried Miloradovich in a loud, self-assured, and merry voice, obviously so excited by the sounds of gunfire, the anticipation of battle, and the sight of his gallant Apsherontsy-his companions from Suvorov's time-marching briskly past the emperors, that he forgot the sovereign's presence. "Lads, it won't be the first village you've taken!" he shouted.

"We do our best, sir!" the soldiers shouted out.

The sovereign's horse shied at the sudden shout. This horse, who had carried the sovereign at reviews while still in Russia, also carried her rider here, on the field of Austerlitz, enduring the distracted nudges of his left foot, pricked up her ears at the sound of gunshots just as she did on the Field of Mars, understanding neither the meaning of the shots she heard, nor the presence of the emperor Franz's black stallion, nor anything of what her rider said, thought, or felt that day.

The sovereign turned with a smile to one of his retinue, pointing to the gallant Apsherontsy, and said something to him.

Kutuzov, accompanied by his adjutants, rode at a walk behind the carabineers.

Having gone less than half a mile at the tail of the column, he stopped by a solitary, deserted house (probably a former tavern), where the road forked. Both roads went down the hill, and troops were marching along both.

The fog began to lift, and enemy troops could be dimly seen about a mile and a half away on the heights opposite. To the left below, the gunfire was growing louder. Kutuzov stopped, talking with an Austrian general. Prince Andrei, standing slightly behind him, peered at the enemy and turned to an adjutant, wishing to borrow a field glass from him.

"Look, look," said this adjutant, looking not at the distant troops, but down the hill in front of him. "It's the French!"

The two generals and the adjutants began snatching at the field glass, pulling it away from each other. All their faces suddenly changed, and on all of them horror appeared. The French were supposed to be a mile and a half from us, and they suddenly turned up right in front of us.

"Is it the enemy? . . . No! . . . Yes, look, he's . . . for certain . . . What is this?" voices said.

With his naked eye, Prince Andrei saw below, to the right, a dense column of French coming up to meet the Apsherontsy, no further than five hundred paces from where Kutuzov was standing.

"Here it is, the decisive moment has come! Now it's my turn," thought Prince Andrei, and, spurring his horse, he rode up to Kutuzov.

"The Apsherontsy must be stopped, Your Excellency!" he cried.

But at that same moment everything became covered with smoke, there was the sound of gunfire nearby, and a naively frightened voice two steps from Prince Andrei cried: "Well, brothers, that's it for us!" And it was as if this voice was a command. At this voice everyone began to run.

Confused, ever increasing crowds came running back to the place where, five minutes before, the troops had marched past the emperors. Not only was it difficult to stop this crowd, but it was impossible not to yield and move back with it. Bolkonsky tried only not to be separated from Kutuzov and looked around in perplexity, unable to understand what was happening in front of him. Nesvitsky, looking angry, red, and not like himself, shouted to Kutuzov that if he did not leave at once, he would certainly be taken prisoner. Kutuzov stood in the same place and, without responding, took out his handkerchief. Blood was flowing from his cheek. Prince Andrei forced his way to him.

"Are you wounded?" he asked, barely able to control the trembling of his lower jaw.

"The wound isn't here, it's there!" said Kutuzov, pressing the handkerchief to his wounded cheek and pointing to the fleeing men.

"Stop them!" he cried, and at the same time, probably realizing that it was impossible to stop them, spurred his horse and rode to the right.

A fresh crowd of fleeing men streamed past, caught him up, and carried him backwards.

The troops were fleeing in such a dense crowd that, once one landed in the middle of it, it was difficult to get out. Someone shouted, "Keep going, don't drag your feet!" Another, turning around, fired into the air; someone else struck the horse on which Kutuzov himself was riding. Extricating themselves with the greatest effort from the flow of the crowd to the left, Kutuzov and his suite, diminished by more than half, rode towards the sounds of nearby cannon fire. Extricating himself from the crowd of fleeing men, Prince Andrei, trying to keep up with Kutuzov, saw on the slope of the hill, amidst the smoke, a Russian battery still firing, and the French running up to it. Slightly higher stood Russian infantry, neither moving ahead to aid the battery, nor backwards in the direction of the fugitives. A general on horseback separated himself from the infantry and rode up to Kutuzov. There were only four men left in Kutuzov's suite. They were all pale and exchanged glances silently.

"Stop those villains!" Kutuzov said breathlessly to the regimental commander, pointing to the fleeing men; but at the same moment, as if in punishment for those words, bullets, like a flock of birds, flew whistling at the regiment and Kutuzov's suite.

The French had attacked the battery and, seeing Kutuzov, were shooting at him. With this volley, the regimental commander seized his leg; several soldiers fell, and an ensign holding a standard let it drop from his hands; the standard wavered and fell, stopped momentarily by the bayonets of the soldiers around it. The soldiers began firing without any orders.

"Oooh!" Kutuzov moaned with an expression of despair and looked around. "Bolkonsky," he whispered in a voice trembling with awareness of his old man's strengthlessness. "Bolkonsky," he whispered, pointing to the disordered battalion and the enemy, "what's going on?"

But before he finished saying it, Prince Andrei, feeling sobs of shame and anger rising in his throat, was already jumping off his horse and running towards the standard.

"Forward, lads!" he cried in a childishly shrill voice.

"Here it is!" thought Prince Andrei, seizing the staff of the standard and hearing with delight the whistle of bullets, evidently aimed precisely at him. Several soldiers fell.

"Hurrah!" cried Prince Andrei, barely able to hold up the heavy standard, and he ran forward with unquestioning assurance that the entire battalion would run after him.

And indeed he ran only a few steps alone. One soldier started out, another, and the whole battalion, with a shout of "Hurrah!" rushed forward and overtook him. A sergeant of the battalion ran up, took the standard that was wavering in Prince Andrei's hands because of its weight, but was killed at once. Prince Andrei again seized the standard and, dragging it by the staff, ran with the battalion. Ahead of him he saw our artillerists, some of whom were fighting, while others abandoned the cannon and came running in his direction; he also saw French infantrymen, who had seized the artillery horses and were turning the cannon. Prince Andrei and his battalion were now twenty paces from the cannon. Above him he heard the unceasing whistle of bullets, and soldiers ceaselessly gasped and fell to right and left of him. But he did not look at them; he looked fixedly only at what was happening ahead of him-at the battery. He clearly saw the figure of a red-haired gunner, his shako knocked askew, pulling a swab from one side, while a French soldier pulled it towards him from the other side. Prince Andrei saw clearly the bewildered and at the same time angry expression on the faces of the two men, who evidently did not understand what they were doing.

"What are they doing?" Prince Andrei wondered, looking at them. "Why doesn't the red-haired artillerist run away, since he has no weapon? Why doesn't the Frenchman stab him? Before he runs away, the Frenchman will remember his musket and bayonet him."

In fact, another Frenchman with his musket atilt ran up to the fighting men, and the lot of the red-haired artillerist, who still did not understand what awaited him and triumphantly pulled the swab from the French soldier's hands, was about to be decided. But Prince Andrei did not see how it ended. It seemed to him as though one of the nearest soldiers, with the full swing of a stout stick, hit him on the head. It was slightly painful and above all unpleasant, because the pain distracted him and kept him from seeing what he had been looking at.

"What is it? am I falling? are my legs giving way under me?" he thought, and fell on his back as Vissy straddled him.

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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on September 20, 2019, 10:39:15 AM
I have every right to speak at an AA meeting you jerk,I drank off and on for 33 years..................h elped out many prople too,what have you done to help anyone?
good for you wes
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 11:50:02 AM
which was it?

Which is what?

Are you dense as well?

That's 6grams a day, moron. Which was 4-6 1-1.5g shots/day.

Did you finish high school? Or you "from the meeeean skreetz" like Wes?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
Which is what?

Are you dense as well?

That's 6grams a day, moron. Which was 4-6 1-1.5g shots/day.

Did you finish high school? Or you "from the meeeean skreetz" like Wes?

I didnt mean any disrespect, I know how you can react to disrespect, but seriously, 6 grams a day of good shit would kill you, you will obviously come back with the story that yours was straight off a cartel van at the border but this only makes your 6 grams look even more stupid, 6 grams of mostly baking powder would be believable.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 11:56:52 AM
Yeah, must be shit gear to do that much. Half a gram of good shit will fuck most users up.

Hahaha and you're a heroin expert as well??

 You used heroin for how long?

Or you're just retyping shit you heard from Google or someone else?

And half a gram of WHAT? Heroin? Or Heroin with fentanyl?

You idiots must not realize what diacetylmorphine's (that's all heroin is. That's why it smells like vinegar) half life is.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 11:58:47 AM
I didnt mean any disrespect, I know how you can react to disrespect, but seriously, 6 grams a day of good shit would kill you, you will obviously come back with the story that yours was straight off a cartel van at the border but this only makes your 6 grams look even more stupid, 6 grams of mostly baking powder would be believable.


Cartels don't bring in much powder. If you'd read and pay attention, I'm on the west coast (in a hub area of distribution), I was using black tar.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 12:01:15 PM
Cartels don't bring in much powder. If you'd read and pay attention, I'm on the west coast (in a hub area of distribution), I was using black tar.

"Black tar heroin looks different than powder heroin. It is a dark-colored form of heroin that can be rock-like or sticky like roofing tar. During production, black tar heroin often is mixed, or “cut,” with low quality substances such as burned cornstarch or lactose. The substance generally is less refined and cheaper than conventional powder heroin."

So you were buying shit then, thanks for clearing that up
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 20, 2019, 12:02:27 PM
Rebelled against mommy and.daddy?

Eh, I didn't drink or use drugs in high school. I was "straight edge" and an athlete. When I moved out at 18 I didn't talk to or see my dad for a good 5yrs. I didn't start using heroin till I was in my 30s, like 32? 33? Or something? And I haven't talked to my mom since like 05.

So there goes that theory.


Clearly, you don't have a strong relationship with your parents. So, silver spoon or not, it appears something must have gone horribly wrong during your upbringing. That is a real shame.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 20, 2019, 12:05:52 PM
People in here are extra crazy lately. I mean on the whole forum. Most of the threads now are really weird.

Looks like Pops had a GetBigger OD and passed on his sleep, maybe due to boredom :(



Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 12:10:09 PM
Rebelled against mommy and.daddy?

Eh, I didn't drink or use drugs in high school. I was "straight edge" and an athlete. When I moved out at 18 I didn't talk to or see my dad for a good 5yrs. I didn't start using heroin till I was in my 30s, like 32? 33? Or something? And I haven't talked to my mom since like 05.

So there goes that theory.


You are only 37 now?????

Seems to me you have been using all the time you were on this forum claiming to work 20 hours a day training clients, things dont seem to be making sense (not that it ever did)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 12:15:16 PM
"Black tar heroin looks different than powder heroin. It is a dark-colored form of heroin that can be rock-like or sticky like roofing tar. During production, black tar heroin often is mixed, or “cut,” with low quality substances such as burned cornstarch or lactose. The substance generally is less refined and cheaper than conventional powder heroin."

So you were buying shit then, thanks for clearing that up

Black tar is cut with carmalized sugar, nothing more. All you do is put sugar and a little water in a pot, heat, and stir till it all turns brown. Let it cool and scrap it up with a razor blade. "Burned cornstarch and lactose" hahaha

You are only 37 now?????

Seems to me you have been using all the time you were on this forum claiming to work 20 hours a day training clients, things dont seem to be making sense (not that it ever did)

2014-2016

Yea, I've talked about it before. You act like discovered mystery. I trained clients from 5 or 530am till 7pm, with 30min sections open here and there (when I'd go get food and do shots usually), and managed the gym from 7pm-12am.

No way I could've worked those hrs if I hadn't been using.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 20, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
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At eight o'clock Kutuzov rode to Pratz at the head of Miloradovich's fourth column, the one which was to take the place of the columns of Przebyszewski and Langeron, which had already gone down. He greeted the men of the head regiment and gave the order to move, thus showing that he intended to lead the column himself. Having ridden to the village of Pratz, he halted. Prince Andrei, one of the enormous number of persons constituting the commander in chief's suite, stood behind him. Prince Andrei felt excited, irritated, and at the same time restrainedly calm, as a man usually is when a long-desired moment comes. He was firmly convinced that this was the day of his Toulon or his bridge of Arcole. How it would happen, he did not know, but he was firmly convinced that it would be so. The locality and position of our troops were known to him, as far as they could be known to anyone in our army. His own strategic plan, which there obviously could be no thought of carrying out now, was forgotten. Now, entering into Weyrother's plan, Prince Andrei pondered the possible happenstances and came up with new considerations, such as might call for his swiftness of reflection and decisiveness.

To the left below, in the fog, exchanges of fire between unseen troops could be heard. There, it seemed to Prince Andrei, the battle would concentrate, there an obstacle would be encountered, and "it's there that I'll be sent with a brigade or division, and there, with a standard in my hand, I'll go forward and crush everything ahead of me."

Prince Andrei could not look with indifference at the standards of the battalions going past him. Looking at a standard, he thought: maybe it is that very standard with which I'll have to march at the head of the troops.

By morning the night's fog had left only hoarfrost turning into dew on the heights, but in the hollows the fog still spread its milk-white sea. Nothing could be seen in that hollow to the left, into which our troops had descended and from which came the sounds of gunfire. Over the heights was a dark, clear sky, and to the right-the enormous ball of the sun. Far ahead, on the other shore of the sea of fog, one could make out the jutting, wooded hills on which the enemy army was supposed to be, and something was discernible. To the right the guards were entering the region of the fog, with a sound of tramping and wheels and an occasional gleam of bayonets; to the left, beyond the village, similar masses of cavalry approached and disappeared into the sea of fog. In front and behind moved the infantry. The commander in chief stood on the road out of the village, letting the troops pass by him. Kutuzov seemed exhausted and irritable that morning. The infantry going past him halted without any command, apparently because something ahead held them up.

"But tell them, finally, to form into battalions and go around the village," Kutuzov said angrily to a general who rode up. "Don't you understand, Your Excellency, my dear sir, that to stretch out in a defile through village streets is impossible when we're marching against an enemy?"

"I intended to form them up outside the village, Your Excellency," said the general.

Kutuzov laughed biliously.

"A fine sight you'd be, lining up in view of the enemy, a very fine sight!"

"The enemy's still far off, Your Excellency. According to the disposition . . ."

"The disposition!" Kutuzov exclaimed biliously. "Who told you that? . . . Kindly do as you're ordered."

"Yes, sir!"

"Mon cher," Nesvitsky said to Prince Andrei in a whisper, "le vieux est d'une humeur de chien."

An Austrian officer in a white uniform with green plumes on his hat rode up to Kutuzov and asked on behalf of the emperor whether the fourth column had started into action.

Kutuzov turned away without answering him, and his gaze chanced to rest on Prince Andrei, who was standing close by. Seeing Bolkonsky, Kutuzov softened the angry and caustic expression of his gaze, as if aware that his adjutant was not to blame for what was going on. And, without answering the Austrian adjutant, he addressed Bolkonsky:

"Allez voir, mon cher, si la troisième division a dépassé le village. Dites-lui de s'arrêter et d'attendre mes ordres."

Prince Andrei had only just started when he stopped him.

"Et demandez-lui si les tirailleurs sont postés," he added. "Ce qu'ils font, ce qu'ils font!" he said to himself, still not answering the Austrian.

Prince Andrei galloped off to carry out his mission.

Overtaking all the advancing battalions, he stopped the third division and ascertained that there was in fact no line of riflemen in front of our columns. The regimental commander of the front regiment was very surprised by the order conveyed to him from the commander in chief to send out riflemen. The regimental commander stood there in the full conviction that there were more troops ahead of him, and that the enemy was no less than six miles away. In fact, nothing could be seen ahead but empty terrain sloping away and covered with thick fog. Having ordered on behalf of the commander in chief that the omission be rectified, Prince Andrei galloped back. Kutuzov still stood in the same place and, his corpulent body sagging over the saddle in old man's fashion, yawned deeply, closing his eyes. The troops were no longer moving, but stood at parade rest.

"Very good, very good," he said to Prince Andrei and turned to a general who stood there with a watch in his hand, saying it was time to move on, because all the columns of the left flank had already descended.

"We still have time, Your Excellency," Kutuzov said through a yawn. "We have time!" he repeated.

Just then, from well behind Kutuzov, came shouts of regimental greetings, and these voices began to approach quickly along the whole extended line of the advancing Russian columns. It was clear that the one being greeted was riding quickly. When the soldiers of the regiment Kutuzov was standing in front of began to shout, he rode slightly to one side and, wincing, turned to look. Down the road from Pratz galloped what looked like a squadron of varicolored horsemen. Two of them rode side by side at a great gallop ahead of the rest. One, in a black uniform with white plumes, rode a bobtailed chestnut horse, the other, in a white uniform, rode a black horse. These were the two emperors with their suite. Kutuzov, with the affectation of a frontline veteran, ordered his standing troops to "attention" and, saluting, rode up to the emperor. His whole figure and manner suddenly changed. He acquired the look of a subordinate, unthinking man. With affected deference, which obviously struck the emperor Alexander unpleasantly, he rode up and saluted him.

The unpleasant impression, like the remains of fog in a clear sky, passed over the emperor's young and happy face and disappeared. He was somewhat thinner that day, after his illness, than on the field of Olmütz, where Bolkonsky had seen him for the first time abroad, but there was the same enchanting combination of majesty and mildness in his beautiful gray eyes, and the fine lips had the same possibility of various expressions, with a prevalent expression of good-natured, innocent youth.

At the Olmütz review he was more majestic; here he was more cheerful and energetic. He was slightly flushed after galloping two miles and, reining in his horse, gave a sigh of relief and looked around at the faces of his suite, as young, as animated as his own. Czartoryski and Novosiltsev, and Prince Volkonsky and Stroganov, and the others, all richly clad, cheerful young men on splendid, pampered, fresh, only slightly sweaty horses, talking and smiling, stopped behind the sovereign. The emperor Franz, a ruddy, long-faced young man, sat extremely straight on his handsome black stallion and looked around him with a preoccupied, unhurried air. He called up one of his white adjutants and asked something. "Most likely what time they started," thought Prince Andrei, observing his old aquaintance, and recalling his audience with a smile he was unable to repress. In the emperors' suite there were picked fine young orderly officers, Russian and Austrian, from the guards and infantry regiments. Among them were grooms leading the handsome spare horses of the royalty in embroidered cloths.

The emperor cupped his ear, frowning slightly and showing that he had not heard properly.

"I'm waiting, Your Majesty," Kutuzov repeated (Prince Andrei noticed that Kutuzov's upper lip twitched unnaturally as he said this "waiting"). "Not all the columns are assembled, Your Majesty."

The sovereign heard, but this reply clearly did not please him; he shrugged his slightly stooping shoulders, glanced at Novosiltsev, who stood nearby, as if complaining of Kutuzov by this glance.

"We're not on the Tsaritsyn Field, Mikhail Larionovich, where you don't start a parade until all the regiments are assembled," said the sovereign, again glancing into the eyes of the emperor Franz, as though inviting him, if not to take part, at least to listen to what he was saying; but the emperor Franz went on looking around and did not listen.

"That is just why I do not begin, Sire," Kutuzov said in a ringing voice, as if to forestall the possibility of not being heard, and again something twitched in his face. "I do not begin, Sire, because we are not on parade and not on the Tsaritsyn Field," he uttered clearly and distinctly.

All the faces in the sovereign's suite instantly exchanged glances with each other, expressing murmur and reproach. "Old as he may be, he should not, he simply should not speak that way," these faces expressed.

The sovereign looked fixedly and attentively into Kutuzov's eyes, waiting to see if he would say something more. But Kutuzov, for his part, bowed his head deferentially and also seemed to be waiting. The silence lasted for about a minute.

"However, if you order it, Your Majesty," said Kutuzov, raising his head and again changing his tone to that of a dull, unthinking, but obedient general.

He touched up his horse and, calling to him the column leader Miloradovich, gave him the order to advance.

The troops stirred again, and two battalions of the Novgorodsky regiment and a battalion of the Apsheronsky regiment moved on past the sovereign.

While this Apsheronsky battalion was marching by, ruddy-faced Miloradovich, with no greatcoat, in his uniform tunic and decorations and a hat with enormous plumes, worn at an angle and brim first, galloped ahead hup-two, and with a dashing salute, reined in his horse before the sovereign.

"God be with you, General," said the sovereign.

"Ma foi, sire, nous ferons ce que qui sera dans notre possibilité, sire!" he replied merrily, nevertheless calling up mocking smiles among the gentlemen of the suite with his bad French.

Miloradovich turned his horse sharply and placed himself slightly behind the sovereign. The Apsherontsy, excited by the presence of the sovereign, marched past the emperors and their suite at a dashingly brisk pace, beating their feet.

"Lads!" cried Miloradovich in a loud, self-assured, and merry voice, obviously so excited by the sounds of gunfire, the anticipation of battle, and the sight of his gallant Apsherontsy-his companions from Suvorov's time-marching briskly past the emperors, that he forgot the sovereign's presence. "Lads, it won't be the first village you've taken!" he shouted.

"We do our best, sir!" the soldiers shouted out.

The sovereign's horse shied at the sudden shout. This horse, who had carried the sovereign at reviews while still in Russia, also carried her rider here, on the field of Austerlitz, enduring the distracted nudges of his left foot, pricked up her ears at the sound of gunshots just as she did on the Field of Mars, understanding neither the meaning of the shots she heard, nor the presence of the emperor Franz's black stallion, nor anything of what her rider said, thought, or felt that day.

The sovereign turned with a smile to one of his retinue, pointing to the gallant Apsherontsy, and said something to him.

Kutuzov, accompanied by his adjutants, rode at a walk behind the carabineers.

Having gone less than half a mile at the tail of the column, he stopped by a solitary, deserted house (probably a former tavern), where the road forked. Both roads went down the hill, and troops were marching along both.

The fog began to lift, and enemy troops could be dimly seen about a mile and a half away on the heights opposite. To the left below, the gunfire was growing louder. Kutuzov stopped, talking with an Austrian general. Prince Andrei, standing slightly behind him, peered at the enemy and turned to an adjutant, wishing to borrow a field glass from him.

"Look, look," said this adjutant, looking not at the distant troops, but down the hill in front of him. "It's the French!"

The two generals and the adjutants began snatching at the field glass, pulling it away from each other. All their faces suddenly changed, and on all of them horror appeared. The French were supposed to be a mile and a half from us, and they suddenly turned up right in front of us.

"Is it the enemy? . . . No! . . . Yes, look, he's . . . for certain . . . What is this?" voices said.

With his naked eye, Prince Andrei saw below, to the right, a dense column of French coming up to meet the Apsherontsy, no further than five hundred paces from where Kutuzov was standing.

"Here it is, the decisive moment has come! Now it's my turn," thought Prince Andrei, and, spurring his horse, he rode up to Kutuzov.

"The Apsherontsy must be stopped, Your Excellency!" he cried.

But at that same moment everything became covered with smoke, there was the sound of gunfire nearby, and a naively frightened voice two steps from Prince Andrei cried: "Well, brothers, that's it for us!" And it was as if this voice was a command. At this voice everyone began to run.

Confused, ever increasing crowds came running back to the place where, five minutes before, the troops had marched past the emperors. Not only was it difficult to stop this crowd, but it was impossible not to yield and move back with it. Bolkonsky tried only not to be separated from Kutuzov and looked around in perplexity, unable to understand what was happening in front of him. Nesvitsky, looking angry, red, and not like himself, shouted to Kutuzov that if he did not leave at once, he would certainly be taken prisoner. Kutuzov stood in the same place and, without responding, took out his handkerchief. Blood was flowing from his cheek. Prince Andrei forced his way to him.

"Are you wounded?" he asked, barely able to control the trembling of his lower jaw.

"The wound isn't here, it's there!" said Kutuzov, pressing the handkerchief to his wounded cheek and pointing to the fleeing men.

"Stop them!" he cried, and at the same time, probably realizing that it was impossible to stop them, spurred his horse and rode to the right.

A fresh crowd of fleeing men streamed past, caught him up, and carried him backwards.

The troops were fleeing in such a dense crowd that, once one landed in the middle of it, it was difficult to get out. Someone shouted, "Keep going, don't drag your feet!" Another, turning around, fired into the air; someone else struck the horse on which Kutuzov himself was riding. Extricating themselves with the greatest effort from the flow of the crowd to the left, Kutuzov and his suite, diminished by more than half, rode towards the sounds of nearby cannon fire. Extricating himself from the crowd of fleeing men, Prince Andrei, trying to keep up with Kutuzov, saw on the slope of the hill, amidst the smoke, a Russian battery still firing, and the French running up to it. Slightly higher stood Russian infantry, neither moving ahead to aid the battery, nor backwards in the direction of the fugitives. A general on horseback separated himself from the infantry and rode up to Kutuzov. There were only four men left in Kutuzov's suite. They were all pale and exchanged glances silently.

"Stop those villains!" Kutuzov said breathlessly to the regimental commander, pointing to the fleeing men; but at the same moment, as if in punishment for those words, bullets, like a flock of birds, flew whistling at the regiment and Kutuzov's suite.

The French had attacked the battery and, seeing Kutuzov, were shooting at him. With this volley, the regimental commander seized his leg; several soldiers fell, and an ensign holding a standard let it drop from his hands; the standard wavered and fell, stopped momentarily by the bayonets of the soldiers around it. The soldiers began firing without any orders.

"Oooh!" Kutuzov moaned with an expression of despair and looked around. "Bolkonsky," he whispered in a voice trembling with awareness of his old man's strengthlessness. "Bolkonsky," he whispered, pointing to the disordered battalion and the enemy, "what's going on?"

But before he finished saying it, Prince Andrei, feeling sobs of shame and anger rising in his throat, was already jumping off his horse and running towards the standard.

"Forward, lads!" he cried in a childishly shrill voice.

"Here it is!" thought Prince Andrei, seizing the staff of the standard and hearing with delight the whistle of bullets, evidently aimed precisely at him. Several soldiers fell.

"Hurrah!" cried Prince Andrei, barely able to hold up the heavy standard, and he ran forward with unquestioning assurance that the entire battalion would run after him.

And indeed he ran only a few steps alone. One soldier started out, another, and the whole battalion, with a shout of "Hurrah!" rushed forward and overtook him. A sergeant of the battalion ran up, took the standard that was wavering in Prince Andrei's hands because of its weight, but was killed at once. Prince Andrei again seized the standard and, dragging it by the staff, ran with the battalion. Ahead of him he saw our artillerists, some of whom were fighting, while others abandoned the cannon and came running in his direction; he also saw French infantrymen, who had seized the artillery horses and were turning the cannon. Prince Andrei and his battalion were now twenty paces from the cannon. Above him he heard the unceasing whistle of bullets, and soldiers ceaselessly gasped and fell to right and left of him. But he did not look at them; he looked fixedly only at what was happening ahead of him-at the battery. He clearly saw the figure of a red-haired gunner, his shako knocked askew, pulling a swab from one side, while a French soldier pulled it towards him from the other side. Prince Andrei saw clearly the bewildered and at the same time angry expression on the faces of the two men, who evidently did not understand what they were doing.

"What are they doing?" Prince Andrei wondered, looking at them. "Why doesn't the red-haired artillerist run away, since he has no weapon? Why doesn't the Frenchman stab him? Before he runs away, the Frenchman will remember his musket and bayonet him."

In fact, another Frenchman with his musket atilt ran up to the fighting men, and the lot of the red-haired artillerist, who still did not understand what awaited him and triumphantly pulled the swab from the French soldier's hands, was about to be decided. But Prince Andrei did not see how it ended. It seemed to him as though one of the nearest soldiers, with the full swing of a stout stick, hit him on the head. It was slightly painful and above all unpleasant, because the pain distracted him and kept him from seeing what he had been looking at.

"What is it? am I falling? are my legs giving way under me?" he thought, and fell on his back as Vissy straddled him.

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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 12:18:29 PM
You are only 37 now?????

Seems to me you have been using all the time you were on this forum claiming to work 20 hours a day training clients, things dont seem to be making sense (not that it ever did)

You can see any of the YouTube videos where I'm on 600mg oxy/day and each vid is taken maybe 5-10mins after getting IV diluadid.

Was I nodding out? Slurring? Droopy eyed?

Or was I fully awake and alert?

Opiates don't affect everybody the same way.

If they made me nod off and drool on myself I never would've used'em.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 12:21:02 PM
You can see any of the YouTube videos where I'm on 600mg oxy/day and each vid is taken maybe 5-10mins after getting IV diluadid.

Was I nodding out? Slurring? Droopy eyed?

Or was I fully awake and alert?

Opiates don't affect everybody the same way.

If they made me nod off and drool on myself I never would've used'em.

You werent making any sense if that counts?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 12:22:05 PM
You werent making any sense if that counts?

How so?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
How so?
doesnt matter...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
doesnt matter...

Of course it does. If it didn't you wouldn't have a) remembered it, or b) mentioned it.

Unless you've never seen any and just making shit up
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 12:54:01 PM
Of course it does. If it didn't you wouldn't have a) remembered it, or b) mentioned it.

Unless you've never seen any and just making shit up
I have decided now that you are in fact a troll, no one would have missed the joke I made without doing it deliberatly
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
Black tar is cut with carmalized sugar, nothing more. All you do is put sugar and a little water in a pot, heat, and stir till it all turns brown. Let it cool and scrap it up with a razor blade. "Burned cornstarch and lactose" hahaha

2014-2016

Yea, I've talked about it before. You act like discovered mystery. I trained clients from 5 or 530am till 7pm, with 30min sections open here and there (when I'd go get food and do shots usually), and managed the gym from 7pm-12am.

No way I could've worked those hrs if I hadn't been using.


now that would make sense if you were using amphet or another stimulants, Heroin does exaclty the opposite
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 01:05:28 PM
now that would make sense if you were using amphet or another stimulants, Heroin does exaclty the opposite

So you've used heroin?

How much? For how long?

I don't care for stims, sure as hell not amphetamine.

Actually I had a gf when I first got out of prison who had a script for Adderall. I took a 20mg tab one day thinking it'd be ok for pre-workout. Didn't do shit. Next day tried 40mgs. Again, didn't do shit. A 25mg ephederine affects me more, and I wasn't gonna waste her pills.

And I have insomnia, so I do t even drink caffeine past 4/5pm.

Opiates don't affect everybody the same.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 01:12:22 PM
So you've used heroin?

How much? For how long?

I don't care for stims, sure as hell not amphetamine.

Actually I had a gf when I first got out of prison who had a script for Adderall. I took a 20mg tab one day thinking it'd be ok for pre-workout. Didn't do shit. Next day tried 40mgs. Again, didn't do shit. A 25mg ephederine affects me more, and I wasn't gonna waste her pills.

And I have insomnia, so I do t even drink caffeine past 4/5pm.

Opiates don't affect everybody the same.
I have used speed and opiates, I know what they both do...not sure why they work the other way around on you, Im sure science cant explain it either.

You were taking lethal levels(to 99% of the population) of opioids and not only were you not tired and drowsy you claimed to be working 20 hours a day and training clients and not one person noticed?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
I have used speed and opiates, I know what they both do...not sure why they work the other way around on you, Im sure science cant explain it either.

You were taking lethal levels(to 99% of the population) of opioids and not only were you not tired and drowsy you claimed to be working 20 hours a day and training clients and not one person noticed?


Nobody knew until I went to rehab and told them when I got back.

Lethal to people with zero opiate tolerances.

The amounts of opiates in me in the hospital would also be lethal to people with no tolerance, and I hadn't used for quite a while at that time.

Has to do with enzymes in your liver that break down certian drugs.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 01:27:21 PM
120 K worth of heroin in a few months time and you would be 6 feet under buddy.

In my defense,my criminal exploits have a happy ending as I turned my life around completely.

Helped out many people in AA and There were no war stories,just personal experiences people share because they can relate.........helped out tons of PT clients lose mega amounts of weight and helped aspiring bodybuilders place in or win contests.

These days,I strive to always do the next right thing............at times I fall short,but I keep on trying.

I have even helped tons of guys on this board with training and nutition advice..............no charge because I don`t care about money.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 01:33:26 PM
Nobody knew until I went to rehab and told them when I got back.

Lethal to people with zero opiate tolerances.

The amounts of opiates in me in the hospital would also be lethal to people with no tolerance, and I hadn't used for quite a while at that time.

Has to do with enzymes in your liver that break down certian drugs.
YOU SIR ARE AN ATTENTION WHORE AND A TOTAL BULLSHITTER AND I`M FAR FROM DONE WITH YOUR LYING ASS.

I GOT PM`s REMEMBER ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 01:36:24 PM
YOU SIR ARE AN ATTENTION WHORE AND A TOTAL BULLSHITTER AND I`M FAR FROM DONE WITH YOUR LYING ASS.

I GOT PM`s REMEMBER ?

Post'em
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 01:38:12 PM
120 K worth of heroin in a few months time and you would be 6 feet under buddy.

In my defense,my criminal exploits have a happy ending as I turned my life around completely.

Helped out many people in AA and There were no war stories,just personal experiences people share because they can relate.........helped out tons of PT clients lose mega amounts of weight and helped aspiring bodybuilders place in or win contests.

These days,I strive to always do the next right thing............at times I fall short,but I keep on trying.

I have even helped tons of guys on this board with training and nutition advice..............no charge because I don`t care about money.



A few months? How long do you think I used it?

And look at you, trying to explain yourself to me as if you think I care. Lol
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 01:47:36 PM
A few months? How long do you think I used it?

And look at you, trying to explain yourself to me as if you think I care. Lol
You care or you wouldn`respond.

I`m living rent free in your empty head! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 02:22:57 PM
You care or you wouldn`respond.

I`m living rent free in your empty head! LOL  ;D

Not quite.

Keep up the tantrums and lame "I'm from the meeeean streeeeetz!!!!" Quotes
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2019, 03:24:31 PM
I'm also a fucken drug dealer. Would you want me naming YOU as a client and having YOUR NAME attached to mine?

Are you as dumb as Wes?

And not even a good one at that.  I don't any other dealer having to hock his shit on IG. 

PS - every pro out there has their name attached to some drug dealer.  You ain't special.  And you ain't turned anyone pro.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 03:48:25 PM
And not even a good one at that.  I don't any other dealer having to hock his shit on IG. 

PS - every pro out there has their name attached to some drug dealer.  You ain't special.  And you ain't turned anyone pro.

Again, where exactly am I selling on IG???
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 03:57:41 PM
Again, where exactly am I selling on IG???

Certainly not personal training, theres no mention of it...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 05:54:19 PM
Not quite.

Keep up the tantrums and lame "I'm from the meeeean streeeeetz!!!!" Quotes
Streets that you would never have survived my friend.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 06:41:57 PM
Streets that you would never have survived my friend.

Bwaahahahaha

Then what set you claim homie?

Is Takushi69 gonna point you out as a 9-Trey Gangsta Blood too? Bwahahaha

Do trailer parks even HAVE streets? Or don't you mean "I'm from the meeeean dirt roads of rural route 72 Blood!.. I got community service TWO times Cuz so you KNOW I'm super duper harder than you Folk! You couldn't kick rocks on my meeeeean dirt roads Wood!"

Keep'em coming. Ex-crackhead like you never recover from your multiple stimulant psychosis experiences. Your brain is likely looking like Swiss cheese in a CT scan. Doctors probably get a good chuckle when they see your scans.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2019, 07:22:04 PM
Again, where exactly am I selling on IG???

Dude, I saw the photos  on IG and your little "strawberry" analogy to go along with it.

Crappy ass dealer having to resort to IG to sell shit.   
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 20, 2019, 08:02:02 PM
Dude, I saw the photos  on IG and your little "strawberry" analogy to go along with it.

Crappy ass dealer having to resort to IG to sell shit.   

Eh, and how long was that up? And how long ago was that?

"Resort to" bwahahaha

You should stick to talking about things you know about, lest you embarrass yourself further.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 08:30:53 PM
Talked to some friends of mine who did tall time........they laughed when I recoiunted your guitar sting analogy                                                                                                                                                                                                            to them.  LOL  'D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 08:36:38 PM
The PM`s are coming,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just gonna reword them     a bit so as not to get  banned.

This is where we see ESF own people  talk about what a tool he is.
                                                                                                  
Gonna be  good!  
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 20, 2019, 08:45:18 PM
I`m going to conduc a little experiment by shooting up 120K worth of heroin.

If no on hears  from me again,please notify my family and tell them ESF said it was not a big amount and it would barely get me off.

Thanks in advance.  LOOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 12:36:13 AM
Eh, and how long was that up? And how long ago was that?

"Resort to" bwahahaha

You should stick to talking about things you know about, lest you embarrass yourself further.

Im pretty sure you dont even sell gear, you certainly have not made it pay, you dont own a home, you have no means of transportation now you cant drive anymore, not sure how you could be a success at something when you cant even deliver it
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 21, 2019, 01:13:09 AM
Talked to some friends of mine who did tall time........they laughed when I recoiunted your guitar sting analogy                                                                                                                                                                                                            to them.  LOL  'D

How do you think tattoos are done in prison? What do you think the needle is made from? How do you think you're gonna close up a cut through your eyebrow in prison? Superglue on commissary? Im sure youre pretty familiar with huffing glue on those "meeeean streeeeetz". Maybe we'll just go to sleep with a bunch of toilet paper on our face and go to sick call in the morning and get stitched up and dry-snitch and get everybody, including you, thrown in the hole while the guards go over the cameras.

You think I figured out how to do it with memories of MacGyver when I was 4 years old? Or do you suppose somebody might've showed me first? I can't believe something like that is so hard to comprehend.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 21, 2019, 01:13:48 AM
Im pretty sure you dont even sell gear, you certainly have not made it pay, you dont own a home, you have no means of transportation now you cant drive anymore, not sure how you could be a success at something when you cant even deliver it

And why can't I drive?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 21, 2019, 01:15:09 AM
I`m going to conduc a little experiment by shooting up 120K worth of heroin.

If no on hears  from me again,please notify my family and tell them ESF said it was not a big amount and it would barely get me off.

Thanks in advance.  LOOL  ;D

You'll first need 120k
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 21, 2019, 01:16:34 AM
The PM`s are coming,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just gonna reword them     a bit so as not to get  banned.

This is where we see ESF own people  talk about what a tool he is.
                                                                                                  
Gonna be  good!  

Post'em. And post names. Or initials. Or how they know me.... FROM 15 YEARS AGO! bwahahaha
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 01:30:07 AM
Post'em. And post names. Or initials. Or how they know me.... FROM 15 YEARS AGO! bwahahaha

the thing is, your stories likely all have some basis in truth, but in reality you have swapped places with the pepole you talk about, all the times you talk about people mistreating you is actually you mistreating them, thats why you have so much detail
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 21, 2019, 01:53:31 AM
Streets that you would never have survived my friend.

How would you be so sure what people would survive on certain streets?

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 02:00:56 AM
How would you be so sure what people would survive on certain streets?



people who have loud mouths and throw people under the bus seldom survive long anywhere...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 21, 2019, 03:59:56 AM
people who have loud mouths and throw people under the bus seldom survive long anywhere...

Who's thrown under the bus?
the thing is, your stories likely all have some basis in truth, but in reality you have swapped places with the pepole you talk about, all the times you talk about people mistreating you is actually you mistreating them, thats why you have so much detail

And who mistreated me?


Here you go again with picking your own idea of "me", and making things fit your own little naritive, what you wantnppl to believe of me

Pathetic as well
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 04:04:30 AM
Who's thrown under the bus?
And who mistreated me?


Here you go again with picking your own idea of "me", and making things fit your own little naritive, what you wantnppl to believe of me

Pathetic as well
You have told numerous stories about different individuals and you are always the one "wronged", everyone else is a dickhead and loser

You have a story about everyone and appear to have met every man and his dog, fact is they dont remember you unless prompted, and they always remember you in a less than favourable light
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 21, 2019, 12:18:17 PM
paragraphs?

One paragraph was all I needed. You still rocking those Lonsdales and staying in shape? Give us an update, old bean.

Tex.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 12:23:40 PM
One paragraph was all I needed. You still rocking those Lonsdales and staying in shape? Give us an update, old bean.

Tex.

 ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 21, 2019, 12:59:15 PM
This beef is getting more and more intense
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 01:09:53 PM
This beef is getting more and more intense

get the popcorn in and buckle up
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 21, 2019, 01:12:23 PM
get the popcorn in and buckle up

Drugs shouldn't be glorified in any way, shape or form. Im drinking again after almost 6 months, and even one or two shots gets me really down afterwards.

Ive never been to jail, but its definitely something not good to have on your resume' I guess :(
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2019, 03:26:40 PM
Drugs shouldn't be glorified in any way, shape or form. Im drinking again after almost 6 months, and even one or two shots gets me really down afterwards.

Ive never been to jail, but its definitely something not good to have on your resume' I guess :(
And we're off.....
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 03:39:12 PM
And we're off.....

 ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 21, 2019, 04:46:59 PM
You have told numerous stories about different individuals and you are always the one "wronged", everyone else is a dickhead and loser

You have a story about everyone and appear to have met every man and his dog, fact is they dont remember you unless prompted, and they always remember you in a less than favourable light


"Numerous individuals"??? And I'm somehow "wronged"?? TF are you talking about?

If so, then it shouldn't be hard to post or even name.examples.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2019, 05:19:19 PM
"Numerous individuals"??? And I'm somehow "wronged"?? TF are you talking about?

If so, then it shouldn't be hard to post or even name.examples.

Every story you post you are the one in the right and someone else is the fall guy.

You even blame someone else for your shitty bathtub brews causing an abscess.
Reality is the reason you are such a failure is its always someone elses fault.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 21, 2019, 05:26:36 PM
Every story you post you are the one in the right and someone else is the fall guy.

You even blame someone else for your shitty bathtub brews causing an abscess.
Reality is the reason you are such a failure is its always someone elses fault.
Guy`s a tool who always blames others for his idiocy.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 21, 2019, 05:34:52 PM
You care or you wouldn`respond.

I`m living rent free in your empty head! LOL  ;D

Isn't it a little messy inside his head? No wonder you don't pay rent.  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 21, 2019, 05:50:28 PM
Every story you post you are the one in the right and someone else is the fall guy.

You even blame someone else for your shitty bathtub brews causing an abscess.
Reality is the reason you are such a failure is its always someone elses fault.

So I'm the only person with an abscess from Sciroxx shit then?

Then why have none of my customers had abcesses? Why hadn't i had an abcess before that? That's hundreds of customers, thousands of bottles. Yet not one infection. Customers who've been customers year after year after year.

You said "numerous individuals", "always someone else's fault" etc etc....

I'm waiting. What else? Who else??
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2019, 01:44:36 AM
So I'm the only person with an abscess from Sciroxx shit then?

Then why have none of my customers had abcesses? Why hadn't i had an abcess before that? That's hundreds of customers, thousands of bottles. Yet not one infection. Customers who've been customers year after year after year.

You said "numerous individuals", "always someone else's fault" etc etc....

I'm waiting. What else? Who else??

no, it was your own shit, thats the point, stop blaming someone else.

Go read your stories, everyone else you talk about is an ass and have always done you some type of wrong, its the same pattern every time
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 22, 2019, 02:56:51 AM
no, it was your own shit, thats the point, stop blaming someone else.

Go read your stories, everyone else you talk about is an ass and have always done you some type of wrong, its the same pattern every time

Than it should be so hard to post some examples.

At the time of the abcess i hadnt even been taking MY OWN SHIT. Goddamn, how do you people manage to check people out at the gas station you work at when they give you $55.07 for a $33.37 bill?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2019, 04:50:00 AM
Than it should be so hard to post some examples.

At the time of the abcess i hadnt even been taking MY OWN SHIT. Goddamn, how do you people manage to check people out at the gas station you work at when they give you $55.07 for a $33.37 bill?
Examples.. sure.https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=80846;sa=showPosts

of course you hadnt taken your own shit  ::), and its nice to see you calling it what it is..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 06:04:56 AM
Than it should be so hard to post some examples.

At the time of the abcess i hadnt even been taking MY OWN SHIT. Goddamn, how do you people manage to check people out at the gas station you work at when they give you $55.07 for a $33.37 bill?

What retard would pay $55.07 for a $33.37 bill? And what gas station is so stupid as to allow a criminal like you to pay AFTER pumping?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2019, 06:06:56 AM
So I'm the only person with an abscess from Sciroxx shit then?

Then why have none of my customers had abcesses? Why hadn't i had an abcess before that? That's hundreds of customers, thousands of bottles. Yet not one infection. Customers who've been customers year after year after year.

You said "numerous individuals", "always someone else's fault" etc etc....

I'm waiting. What else? Who else??

because you dont have any customers..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 06:31:19 AM
Eric goes to the register - is told his total is $33.37.... He pays the clerk $55.07... The clerk looks at him a bit dumbfounded and then politely hands the dumbass the $10 and $5 back in the same way that he would give a 10 year old who was paying for his dad the first time.
Eric never had that experience with his pop - “daddy was with his boyfriends cock in his mouth” and fortunately some other man will teach his baby mamas kids how to pay.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: che on September 22, 2019, 07:33:16 AM
Eric goes to the register - is told his total is $33.37.... He pays the clerk $55.07...
Yep ,it doesn't make any sense
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 09:11:22 AM
Yep ,it doesn't make any sense

Unfortunately I think it DOES make sense to Eric’s opiate / benzo ruined brain.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 22, 2019, 09:22:37 AM
Yep ,it doesn't make any sense
Unfortunately I think it DOES make sense to Eric’s opiate / benzo ruined brain.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt with this one. I'm assuming he's using those numbers so he can get a $20 with change back. Paying with a $50 and 7cents would get $16.70 back. $55 would get $21.70.

I'm assuming this was about the $20 bill.

As a get bigger I routinely toss all bill's smaller than $50 anyhow, so this scenario isnt applicable to anyhow.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 22, 2019, 09:50:03 AM
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt with this one. I'm assuming he's using those numbers so he can get a $20 with change back. Paying with a $50 and 7cents would get $16.70 back. $55 would get $21.70.

I'm assuming this was about the $20 bill.

As a get bigger I routinely toss all bill's smaller than $50 anyhow, so this scenario isnt applicable to anyhow.

on the contrary its likely some scam he pulls to get extra cash out of some dumb checkout guy
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 22, 2019, 11:51:40 AM
on the contrary its likely some scam he pulls to get extra cash out of some dumb checkout guy

LOL!

Classic scam.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 12:19:04 PM
PM excerpt reworded so as not to get banned...........of course it`s about ESF !

   
And that Eric loser never trained anyone!!!! He was a laughing stock. People felt bad for him! He never lifted weights... just drugs and shooting oil into his body parts. Everyone knew, not because it was so obvious, but because he would go around and tell everyone! Fucked up kid! Personal trainer my ass. All he knows about is recreational drugs, because he's overdosed on everything. Even Advil when he could not get anything else. That was the last call I got from him years back. He always had weird issues going on. Some gay shit with his dad as well. I mean, he had no filter. Would tell the craziest shit, true or false to anyone who would listen. Like I said, we pretty much ran his ass out of San Diego years ago. He was about to get his ass kicked by quite a few people with that mouth of his. All of us serious bodybuilders down here could not stand his ass in the gym. Did nothing but talk shit! Never lifted a weight around us either. He had no muscle at all! Needless to say, he did not last long. It's sad he's back to being an idiot back on the boards. I would think that since he is older now he'd be wiser. Sad. He's nothing but a lier. Mark my words though, that guy will end up in jail again, or a fatal overdose. Just a matter of time. Wait and see! Cheers.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 12:22:36 PM
Anoothr one from a completely different person:

My fucking god, Eric does not stop with his bullshit lies!!! He has never ever owned any part of a gym or supplement store!!! I can’t believe he has the balls to say this. Prolly because no one here knows him personally. He worked for minimum wage at a GNC, and that is his story about his supplement store. I’m all facts! If not, ask him for any proof at all that he has ever owned one dollar of any fitness endeavor! And he has also been ducking any questions regarding clients he has trained.... let’s here the names of (ANYONE) amateur, pro, or general 9-5 old lady. I bet he will skirt this question however he can. Fucking pathological liar!!!!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 22, 2019, 12:23:35 PM
PM excerpt reworded so as not to get banned...........of course it`s about ESF !

   
And that Eric loser never trained anyone!!!! He was a laughing stock. People felt bad for him! He never lifted weights... just drugs and shooting oil into his body parts. Everyone knew, not because it was so obvious, but because he would go around and tell everyone! Fucked up kid! Personal trainer my ass. All he knows about is recreational drugs, because he's overdosed on everything. Even Advil when he could not get anything else. That was the last call I got from him years back. He always had weird issues going on. Some gay shit with his dad as well. I mean, he had no filter. Would tell the craziest shit, true or false to anyone who would listen. Like I said, we pretty much ran his ass out of San Diego years ago. He was about to get his ass kicked by quite a few people with that mouth of his. All of us serious bodybuilders down here could not stand his ass in the gym. Did nothing but talk shit! Never lifted a weight around us either. He had no muscle at all! Needless to say, he did not last long. It's sad he's back to being an idiot back on the boards. I would think that since he is older now he'd be wiser. Sad. He's nothing but a lier. Mark my words though, that guy will end up in jail again, or a fatal overdose. Just a matter of time. Wait and see! Cheers.


You posted this one already.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 12:24:42 PM
More to come and these are from   from 4 different people.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 12:26:59 PM
You posted this one already.
Sue me !  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 12:27:36 PM
Wow, Eric is more delusional than I thought... lies on top of lies!! So many, they are hard to keep track of. Lol, that he has trained (Pro’s) Fucking funny. Why don’t you ask him to name just one single pro or amateur competitor he has trained or given any kind of guru, drug protocol advice, or just plain training advice??? If he can’t prove this one thing only, than it just proves he lies about everything else. He has, and has always had a (Dad bod) No one would ever ask for his advice. Not even a beginner! He has never looked like he has ever touched a weight. Why don’t you ask him to post some pictures of his physique, past or present!!!!!! He won’t. More proof he is a fucking drug addict, criminal, convict, pathological lier! Fuck he is crazy. I’m glad I’m not getting involved in his crazy bullshit. All Lies and embellishment!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 12:29:16 PM
He embellishes every damn thing I have read! With the exception of his surgeries, overdoses, and all his other ailments. He is a drug addict loser! He never even tried to compete. His physique was the laughing stock of San Diego. He was known as the Synthol Fool. Injected it In his shoulders so much, he was laughed at around town, and by people that did not even know what Synthol or working out was! He had pencil thin legs, never wore shorts, pencil thin arms, no chest, back, or any body part that looked like he EVER touched a weight at all. Like I said, he is an embarrassment. See people don’t know him, so he can fabricate these lies! With the exception of his run in with the law, and even with that he fabricated. It was local cops at the gas station overnight store that he tried to rob, not SWAT! LMFAO!! He tried to overdose on a bottle of Advil, and cut off his finger while hiding from the local police in a hotel room. He’s such a fucking lier, drug addict, and loser, It’s hard to read these posts because I know him and the truth. And his baby moma, and any other girl he mentions have all been fat, short, stocky Asian girls which he has a fetish for. I mean real fugly chicks. My god he is a lier and a loser! Every post I have read had been an Out right lie or a complete embellishment!!! He makes his own steroids?Huh Lol. Yes he has tried forever and does not know what he’s doing. He got infected from his own shit because he’s a fucking idiot. I could go on forever! I would post, but since I know the truth to all his bullshit, he would know who it is, and start making up stories about me, because I busted his ass! I don’t want to deal with this fool. You can however post that you know someone who knows you and that is reading all of your bullshit!!!!!!! Just don’t mention my name. He’s a fucking crazy drug addict criminal. A pathological lier. I can’t believe some people on here actually believes a word of his? But then again they don’t know him. That’s what he banks on. Take it easy Wes! Peace.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 22, 2019, 02:29:12 PM
THE WALL (LA PARED)

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Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 22, 2019, 03:34:53 PM
You posted this one already.

I was about to say the same thing.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 03:39:28 PM
Ole Eric is doped out today -
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 22, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
He embellishes every damn thing I have read! With the exception of his surgeries, overdoses, and all his other ailments. He is a drug addict loser! He never even tried to compete. His physique was the laughing stock of San Diego. He was known as the Synthol Fool. Injected it In his shoulders so much, he was laughed at around town, and by people that did not even know what Synthol or working out was! He had pencil thin legs, never wore shorts, pencil thin arms, no chest, back, or any body part that looked like he EVER touched a weight at all. Like I said, he is an embarrassment. See people don’t know him, so he can fabricate these lies! With the exception of his run in with the law, and even with that he fabricated. It was local cops at the gas station overnight store that he tried to rob, not SWAT! LMFAO!! He tried to overdose on a bottle of Advil, and cut off his finger while hiding from the local police in a hotel room. He’s such a fucking lier, drug addict, and loser, It’s hard to read these posts because I know him and the truth. And his baby moma, and any other girl he mentions have all been fat, short, stocky Asian girls which he has a fetish for. I mean real fugly chicks. My god he is a lier and a loser! Every post I have read had been an Out right lie or a complete embellishment!!! He makes his own steroids?Huh Lol. Yes he has tried forever and does not know what he’s doing. He got infected from his own shit because he’s a fucking idiot. I could go on forever! I would post, but since I know the truth to all his bullshit, he would know who it is, and start making up stories about me, because I busted his ass! I don’t want to deal with this fool. You can however post that you know someone who knows you and that is reading all of your bullshit!!!!!!! Just don’t mention my name. He’s a fucking crazy drug addict criminal. A pathological lier. I can’t believe some people on here actually believes a word of his? But then again they don’t know him. That’s what he banks on. Take it easy Wes! Peace.

You might want to tell this person how to spell. It is liar and not lier.  A liar is a person who doesn’t speak the truth.
A lier is a person or object that rests in a horizontal position. :)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 22, 2019, 03:41:42 PM
Eric goes to the register - is told his total is $33.37.... He pays the clerk $55.07... The clerk looks at him a bit dumbfounded and then politely hands the dumbass the $10 and $5 back in the same way that he would give a 10 year old who was paying for his dad the first time.
Eric never had that experience with his pop - “daddy was with his boyfriends cock in his mouth” and fortunately some other man will teach his baby mamas kids how to pay.

I believe this one will result in a reckoning of sorts.  
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 22, 2019, 03:48:17 PM
Eric goes to the register - is told his total is $33.37.... He pays the clerk $55.07... The clerk looks at him a bit dumbfounded and then politely hands the dumbass the $10 and $5 back in the same way that he would give a 10 year old who was paying for his dad the first time.
Eric never had that experience with his pop - “daddy was with his boyfriends cock in his mouth” and fortunately some other man will teach his baby mamas kids how to pay.

The store clerk shortchanged him $6.70. ;)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 04:06:26 PM
I should have said “gives him back a ten and five - BEFORE even making change”
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 22, 2019, 04:23:49 PM
Ole Eric is doped out today -

Nah, he's just working 107 hrs today personal training.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
Nah, he's just working 107 hrs today personal training.

But I am sure he banged 10 grams of high quality dope first
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2019, 07:26:27 PM
So the IG drug dealing failure lies?  Who would have guessed?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 22, 2019, 08:02:22 PM
But I am sure he banged 10 grams of high quality dope first

So high quality that it would kill a rhino but of course, he barely felt it.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 08:06:18 PM
So high quality that it would kill a rhino but of course, he barely felt it.

Hell no he didn’t feel it ya silly ass. Pfff - he actually DID kill a rhino - WHILE he was on the dope. Why you ask??  Just cause — that’s why!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Rascal full on September 22, 2019, 08:09:30 PM
Hell no he didn’t feel it ya silly ass. Pfff - he actually DID kill a rhino - WHILE he was on the dope. Why you ask??  Just cause — that’s why!

Just Cause LOL
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 08:25:29 PM
Kwon - that big legged bitch is hotter each time I look!! I love curves - wife has ridiculous waist / hip ratio. She is small - but there is something kind of hot about those big ole thick ole legs up there.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 22, 2019, 08:40:20 PM
THE WALL (LA PARED)

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f54e38a158d955045551c80df9eecc7d/tumblr_pxru5xNMNX1qeu577o1_r1_1280.jpg)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/eea8ed4dd765e289f37beab8c94b4480/tumblr_pxru5xNMNX1qeu577o2_1280.jpg)

No cock?  No hit!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2019, 08:57:35 PM
Kwon - that big legged bitch is hotter each time I look!! I love curves - wife has ridiculous waist / hip ratio. She is small - but there is something kind of hot about those big ole thick ole legs up there.

X2
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 22, 2019, 08:59:36 PM
He embellishes every damn thing I have read! With the exception of his surgeries, overdoses, and all his other ailments. He is a drug addict loser! He never even tried to compete. His physique was the laughing stock of San Diego. He was known as the Synthol Fool. Injected it In his shoulders so much, he was laughed at around town, and by people that did not even know what Synthol or working out was! He had pencil thin legs, never wore shorts, pencil thin arms, no chest, back, or any body part that looked like he EVER touched a weight at all. Like I said, he is an embarrassment. See people don’t know him, so he can fabricate these lies! With the exception of his run in with the law, and even with that he fabricated. It was local cops at the gas station overnight store that he tried to rob, not SWAT! LMFAO!! He tried to overdose on a bottle of Advil, and cut off his finger while hiding from the local police in a hotel room. He’s such a fucking lier, drug addict, and loser, It’s hard to read these posts because I know him and the truth. And his baby moma, and any other girl he mentions have all been fat, short, stocky Asian girls which he has a fetish for. I mean real fugly chicks. My god he is a lier and a loser! Every post I have read had been an Out right lie or a complete embellishment!!! He makes his own steroids?Huh Lol. Yes he has tried forever and does not know what he’s doing. He got infected from his own shit because he’s a fucking idiot. I could go on forever! I would post, but since I know the truth to all his bullshit, he would know who it is, and start making up stories about me, because I busted his ass! I don’t want to deal with this fool. You can however post that you know someone who knows you and that is reading all of your bullshit!!!!!!! Just don’t mention my name. He’s a fucking crazy drug addict criminal. A pathological lier. I can’t believe some people on here actually believes a word of his? But then again they don’t know him. That’s what he banks on. Take it easy Wes! Peace.

How would you overdose on a bottle of Advil?

Gas station overnight? Eh, you can use.google right? Was a good.market at about 10am on a Monday morning.

Cut off a.finger hiding in a hotel room? Finger was cut off in November, months prior. (Trigger finger jobless)

Yep, no back
https://www.instagram.com/p/aDb3Yuihvx/?igshid=1pqowiieygdqu

https://www.instagram.com/p/aDb4OTihv0/?igshid=ke2tt609f4zd


No arms, no delts

https://www.instagram.com/p/ZhKLF3ihop/?igshid=ypmrug2j1687

https://www.instagram.com/p/ZmN9NpChrT/?igshid=pfm3vywr316d

https://www.instagram.com/p/X_AR3QihlY/?igshid=99jh294y8xng

https://www.instagram.com/p/XbPEerChgL/?igshid=z810gbryeneu

Pencil legs
https://www.instagram.com/p/XUAYOcChmS/?igshid=183hi778t4uoi

https://www.instagram.com/p/XyVS0BChpV/?igshid=5qd2vq6aopq1

Keep it coming.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 22, 2019, 09:02:45 PM
Eric you must have been spending the day with your kids  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 09:13:36 PM
How would you overdose on a bottle of Advil?

Gas station overnight? Eh, you can use.google right? Was a good.market at about 10am on a Monday morning.

Cut off a.finger hiding in a hotel room? Finger was cut off in November, months prior. (Trigger finger jobless)

Yep, no back
https://www.instagram.com/p/aDb3Yuihvx/?igshid=1pqowiieygdqu

https://www.instagram.com/p/aDb4OTihv0/?igshid=ke2tt609f4zd


No arms, no delts

https://www.instagram.com/p/ZhKLF3ihop/?igshid=ypmrug2j1687

https://www.instagram.com/p/ZmN9NpChrT/?igshid=pfm3vywr316d

https://www.instagram.com/p/X_AR3QihlY/?igshid=99jh294y8xng

https://www.instagram.com/p/XbPEerChgL/?igshid=z810gbryeneu

Pencil legs
https://www.instagram.com/p/XUAYOcChmS/?igshid=183hi778t4uoi

https://www.instagram.com/p/XyVS0BChpV/?igshid=5qd2vq6aopq1

Keep it coming.

Hey this is coming from your boy......not me, and to be quite honest,those pics look like pure unadaultrated shit !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2019, 09:34:47 PM
How would you overdose on a bottle of Advil?

Gas station overnight? Eh, you can use.google right? Was a good.market at about 10am on a Monday morning.

Cut off a.finger hiding in a hotel room? Finger was cut off in November, months prior. (Trigger finger jobless)

Yep, no back
https://www.instagram.com/p/aDb3Yuihvx/?igshid=1pqowiieygdqu

https://www.instagram.com/p/aDb4OTihv0/?igshid=ke2tt609f4zd


No arms, no delts

https://www.instagram.com/p/ZhKLF3ihop/?igshid=ypmrug2j1687

https://www.instagram.com/p/ZmN9NpChrT/?igshid=pfm3vywr316d

https://www.instagram.com/p/X_AR3QihlY/?igshid=99jh294y8xng

https://www.instagram.com/p/XbPEerChgL/?igshid=z810gbryeneu

Pencil legs
https://www.instagram.com/p/XUAYOcChmS/?igshid=183hi778t4uoi

https://www.instagram.com/p/XyVS0BChpV/?igshid=5qd2vq6aopq1

Keep it coming.

🤦‍♂️

Bro, congrats. Waiting for another 32 pages. Don’t say I didn’t warn you
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 22, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
Back, side delts and legs are all pretty good. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 22, 2019, 09:41:45 PM
Hey this is coming from your boy......not me, and to be quite honest,those pics look like pure unadaultrated shit !!


You mean the.same "boy" who's been a cocaine and opiate addict for 30yrs?

Who gets girls to let him live with them after he gets them addicted to the same drugs he's addicted to?

Same "boy" who infects all those girls with herpes?

Same "boy" with 13(as of 02) restraining orders against him from ex gfs after they try to kick him out?(after which he'll go live with a gay guy, trading sex and him walking around the house naked in exchange for sleeping on their couch till he finds another dumb insecure girl ?)

List goes on.

"Crazy drug addict criminal"? 14yrs clean with a 2yr relapse before rehab in spring 2016? Yea, biiiig drug addict eh?

Funny how anybody from San Diego knows anything when Eric hasn't lived there in 15+ years and aside from kids and GFS hasn't associated with anybody there.

Keep it coming.

Where are the other 3 people?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 22, 2019, 09:43:49 PM
Search esf's stance on Advil. Esf uses Tylenol. Always has. Advil turns kidneys to rocks and inhibits prostaglandins which inhibits recovery.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2019, 09:50:46 PM
Search esf's stance on Advil. Esf uses Tylenol. Always has. Advil turns kidneys to rocks and inhibits prostaglandins which inhibits recovery.

Tylenol is much more toxic at lower doses than Advil At higher doses
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 22, 2019, 09:52:45 PM
Tylenol is much more toxic at lower doses than Advil At higher doses

Liver will recover, kidneys dont genius
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2019, 09:56:38 PM
Liver will recover, kidneys dont genius

So it’s either one or other? Lmao
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: BB on September 22, 2019, 10:09:17 PM
Search esf's stance on Advil. Esf uses Tylenol. Always has. Advil turns kidneys to rocks and inhibits prostaglandins which inhibits recovery.

Why does the ESF speak in the 3rd person? BB would like to see him stop, or at least change it up. Perhaps ESF could use the "royal we" instead?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 22, 2019, 10:21:48 PM
So it’s either one or other? Lmao

Hmm

Take an Advil that causes irreparable damage to the kidneys, and doesn't even work that well.

or

take Tylenol which causes repairable damage to the liver? (And works better)

Tough choice huh?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 10:23:14 PM
You mean the.same "boy" who's been a cocaine and opiate addict for 30yrs?

Who gets girls to let him live with them after he gets them addicted to the same drugs he's addicted to?

Same "boy" who infects all those girls with herpes?

Same "boy" with 13(as of 02) restraining orders against him from ex gfs after they try to kick him out?(after which he'll go live with a gay guy, trading sex and him walking around the house naked in exchange for sleeping on their couch till he finds another dumb insecure girl ?)

List goes on.

"Crazy drug addict criminal"? 14yrs clean with a 2yr relapse before rehab in spring 2016? Yea, biiiig drug addict eh?

Funny how anybody from San Diego knows anything when Eric hasn't lived there in 15+ years and aside from kids and GFS hasn't associated with anybody there.

Keep it coming.

Where are the other 3 people?
I don`t know the mathafuckr you do ?

I have no clue who he is.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 22, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Your liver only regenrates to a certain degree depending on how damaged it is.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 23, 2019, 12:05:47 AM
Your liver only regenrates to a certain degree depending on how damaged it is.

You mean ast and alt levels going into the 200s and back down into the 20s???

Yea, "a certian degree" huh
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 23, 2019, 01:09:40 AM
He embellishes every damn thing I have read! With the exception of his surgeries, overdoses, and all his other ailments. He is a drug addict loser! He never even tried to compete. His physique was the laughing stock of San Diego. He was known as the Synthol Fool. Injected it In his shoulders so much, he was laughed at around town, and by people that did not even know what Synthol or working out was! He had pencil thin legs, never wore shorts, pencil thin arms, no chest, back, or any body part that looked like he EVER touched a weight at all. Like I said, he is an embarrassment. See people don’t know him, so he can fabricate these lies! With the exception of his run in with the law, and even with that he fabricated. It was local cops at the gas station overnight store that he tried to rob, not SWAT! LMFAO!! He tried to overdose on a bottle of Advil, and cut off his finger while hiding from the local police in a hotel room. He’s such a fucking lier, drug addict, and loser, It’s hard to read these posts because I know him and the truth. And his baby moma, and any other girl he mentions have all been fat, short, stocky Asian girls which he has a fetish for. I mean real fugly chicks. My god he is a lier and a loser! Every post I have read had been an Out right lie or a complete embellishment!!! He makes his own steroids?Huh Lol. Yes he has tried forever and does not know what he’s doing. He got infected from his own shit because he’s a fucking idiot. I could go on forever! I would post, but since I know the truth to all his bullshit, he would know who it is, and start making up stories about me, because I busted his ass! I don’t want to deal with this fool. You can however post that you know someone who knows you and that is reading all of your bullshit!!!!!!! Just don’t mention my name. He’s a fucking crazy drug addict criminal. A pathological lier. I can’t believe some people on here actually believes a word of his? But then again they don’t know him. That’s what he banks on. Take it easy Wes! Peace.

And that's why he'd strip and let dudes suck his dick at parties for dozen dudes in Hillcrest on a friday night and call Saturday with $80 asking for trenbolone Ace made from finaplix every month.... Because it was bunk, right?

I could see how an impotent (ask tonya, ask drea. He can't get it up without 2x100mg viagras wnd even then he can't bust a nut) dude who gives his GFS anadrol and tells them it's anavar and deca telling them it's primo and doesn't mind them growing literal beards, stomach hair back hair (and balding) ,and voices deeper and raspier than his, would find a girl who actually looks like a girl, unattractive.

Actually, i doubt he's even attracted to girls period.

His ex would come to the store and talk about how she thought he was gay and how he'd find insecure girls and treat them like Barbie dolls.

 Tell them how to cut their hair, tell them how to do their makeup, how to do their eye shadow, what clothes to.wear, what shoes to wear, what color lipstick to wear. he hates pink lipstick on girls and he'll throw tantrums if they would wear pink. literal tantrums to where the neighbors have to call the police and he will have to go hide in the bushes because he had active warrants for not attending anger management class from previous girlfriends filing domestic violence charges against him and filing restraining orders, and violating those restraining orders. He'd have them all get implants, or if they already had implants, he'd make them get bigger implants.

NONE of which he'd pay for because he refused to get a job, and leaches off women till they kick him out.

Only reason I hired him was because Tonya told him to get a job or get the fuck out. She kicked him out a couple months later anyways.

He uses women like an accessory (I think term is "beard") to make him look the part of a "fitness couple", even though he's impotent and had been for years as of 2000, 19yrs later I doubt it's gotten better, after years of cocaine and whatever opiates he can get hold of . Drea would be up at Maria's tanning salon talking about how he could never get it up and how they'd have sex once every couple months and how he gave her herpes lol. Pathetic.

Funny how he calls anybody a drug addict when he gave Eric his first Vicodin and got him to smuggle klonopin and Nubain from Mexico and got Eric using Nubain saying "all the pros use it. It's not addictive at all. That's all bullshit". Dude's been a drug addict for 30years.

You'd walk into the store and find him sitting behind the counter, sleeping because he was fucked up on klonopin and painkillers, drooling on himself. Customers would just pick up product and walk out. Or if a customer would have an issue, he'd scream at her and tell her to leave and she'd call another store to complain, and that store would call him right away. He'd go outside, see her, follow her into the grocery store and scream at the old lady and threaten her for getting him in trouble. She'd then call police to escort her to her car, and call corporate to file a complaint.

Could write a book.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 23, 2019, 04:51:42 AM
^^^ The insecurity is palpable
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 06:41:07 AM
And that's why he'd strip and let dudes suck his dick at parties for dozen dudes in Hillcrest on a friday night and call Saturday with $80 asking for trenbolone Ace made from finaplix every month.... Because it was bunk, right?

I could see how an impotent (ask tonya, ask drea. He can't get it up without 2x100mg viagras wnd even then he can't bust a nut) dude who gives his GFS anadrol and tells them it's anavar and deca telling them it's primo and doesn't mind them growing literal beards, stomach hair back hair (and balding) ,and voices deeper and raspier than his, would find a girl who actually looks like a girl, unattractive.

Actually, i doubt he's even attracted to girls period.

His ex would come to the store and talk about how she thought he was gay and how he'd find insecure girls and treat them like Barbie dolls.

 Tell them how to cut their hair, tell them how to do their makeup, how to do their eye shadow, what clothes to.wear, what shoes to wear, what color lipstick to wear. he hates pink lipstick on girls and he'll throw tantrums if they would wear pink. literal tantrums to where the neighbors have to call the police and he will have to go hide in the bushes because he had active warrants for not attending anger management class from previous girlfriends filing domestic violence charges against him and filing restraining orders, and violating those restraining orders. He'd have them all get implants, or if they already had implants, he'd make them get bigger implants.

NONE of which he'd pay for because he refused to get a job, and leaches off women till they kick him out.

Only reason I hired him was because Tonya told him to get a job or get the fuck out. She kicked him out a couple months later anyways.

He uses women like an accessory (I think term is "beard") to make him look the part of a "fitness couple", even though he's impotent and had been for years as of 2000, 19yrs later I doubt it's gotten better, after years of cocaine and whatever opiates he can get hold of . Drea would be up at Maria's tanning salon talking about how he could never get it up and how they'd have sex once every couple months and how he gave her herpes lol. Pathetic.

Funny how he calls anybody a drug addict when he gave Eric his first Vicodin and got him to smuggle klonopin and Nubain from Mexico and got Eric using Nubain saying "all the pros use it. It's not addictive at all. That's all bullshit". Dude's been a drug addict for 30years.

You'd walk into the store and find him sitting behind the counter, sleeping because he was fucked up on klonopin and painkillers, drooling on himself. Customers would just pick up product and walk out. Or if a customer would have an issue, he'd scream at her and tell her to leave and she'd call another store to complain, and that store would call him right away. He'd go outside, see her, follow her into the grocery store and scream at the old lady and threaten her for getting him in trouble. She'd then call police to escort her to her car, and call corporate to file a complaint.

Could write a book.

so he couldnt get it up yet he gave her herpes, now how do you think he caught that?

Guy hardly knows you FFS, yet you know all this about him, he only remebers you as a hanger on who shot himself full of cooking oil to fill out his delts and would always train covered up because you had no legs, you were the laughing stock of the gym who everyone took the piss out of.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 23, 2019, 06:53:51 AM
And that's why he'd strip and let dudes suck his dick at parties for dozen dudes in Hillcrest on a friday night and call Saturday with $80 asking for trenbolone Ace made from finaplix every month.... Because it was bunk, right?

I could see how an impotent (ask tonya, ask drea. He can't get it up without 2x100mg viagras wnd even then he can't bust a nut) dude who gives his GFS anadrol and tells them it's anavar and deca telling them it's primo and doesn't mind them growing literal beards, stomach hair back hair (and balding) ,and voices deeper and raspier than his, would find a girl who actually looks like a girl, unattractive.

Actually, i doubt he's even attracted to girls period.

His ex would come to the store and talk about how she thought he was gay and how he'd find insecure girls and treat them like Barbie dolls.

 Tell them how to cut their hair, tell them how to do their makeup, how to do their eye shadow, what clothes to.wear, what shoes to wear, what color lipstick to wear. he hates pink lipstick on girls and he'll throw tantrums if they would wear pink. literal tantrums to where the neighbors have to call the police and he will have to go hide in the bushes because he had active warrants for not attending anger management class from previous girlfriends filing domestic violence charges against him and filing restraining orders, and violating those restraining orders. He'd have them all get implants, or if they already had implants, he'd make them get bigger implants.

NONE of which he'd pay for because he refused to get a job, and leaches off women till they kick him out.

Only reason I hired him was because Tonya told him to get a job or get the fuck out. She kicked him out a couple months later anyways.

He uses women like an accessory (I think term is "beard") to make him look the part of a "fitness couple", even though he's impotent and had been for years as of 2000, 19yrs later I doubt it's gotten better, after years of cocaine and whatever opiates he can get hold of . Drea would be up at Maria's tanning salon talking about how he could never get it up and how they'd have sex once every couple months and how he gave her herpes lol. Pathetic.

Funny how he calls anybody a drug addict when he gave Eric his first Vicodin and got him to smuggle klonopin and Nubain from Mexico and got Eric using Nubain saying "all the pros use it. It's not addictive at all. That's all bullshit". Dude's been a drug addict for 30years.

You'd walk into the store and find him sitting behind the counter, sleeping because he was fucked up on klonopin and painkillers, drooling on himself. Customers would just pick up product and walk out. Or if a customer would have an issue, he'd scream at her and tell her to leave and she'd call another store to complain, and that store would call him right away. He'd go outside, see her, follow her into the grocery store and scream at the old lady and threaten her for getting him in trouble. She'd then call police to escort her to her car, and call corporate to file a complaint.

Could write a book.

Damn, this cat can tell a story like no other...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 08:11:07 AM
Damn, this cat can tell a story like no other...
theres something very wrong with him, all the stories he recites and he does have lots of detail , the reason is beacsue its him hes talking about, not someone else.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: falco on September 23, 2019, 08:26:37 AM
Amazing how this thread is 33 pages already.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 08:27:27 AM
Amazing how this thread is 33 pages already.

post some new threads then people might avoid this one
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 23, 2019, 08:30:48 AM
ERICS THREADS MUST NOT BE AVOIDED!

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f20a47db81f6f1dd131492fdd8cd0339/tumblr_px5e5nvvUa1tdlw03o1_1280.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f20a47db81f6f1dd131492fdd8cd0339/tumblr_px5e5nvvUa1tdlw03o1_1280.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f20a47db81f6f1dd131492fdd8cd0339/tumblr_px5e5nvvUa1tdlw03o1_1280.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f20a47db81f6f1dd131492fdd8cd0339/tumblr_px5e5nvvUa1tdlw03o1_1280.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f20a47db81f6f1dd131492fdd8cd0339/tumblr_px5e5nvvUa1tdlw03o1_1280.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f20a47db81f6f1dd131492fdd8cd0339/tumblr_px5e5nvvUa1tdlw03o1_1280.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/f20a47db81f6f1dd131492fdd8cd0339/tumblr_px5e5nvvUa1tdlw03o1_1280.gif)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: DooM_ on September 23, 2019, 09:35:48 AM
did he really use synthol . . . ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 10:09:17 AM
did he really use synthol . . . ?
no, it was cooking oil, he had no money for synthol...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 10:54:12 AM
(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/airplane-propleller-flight-aviation-engine-isolated-propeller-white-image-can-be-used-as-concept-flying-don-t-forget-33156982.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 23, 2019, 11:56:03 AM
I don't care if the stories are real or not, this guy is entertaining! ESF you should start filming some day in the life videos for us.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 12:03:37 PM
I don't care if the stories are real or not, this guy is entertaining! ESF you should start filming some day in the life videos for us.

heres a still from one of his movies
(https://tr.rbxcdn.com/f067a4b93ef3205b335bf056511e7748/420/420/Decal/Png)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 12:03:39 PM
I don't care if the stories are real or not, this guy is entertaining! ESF you should start filming some day in the life videos for us.
If you`re that hungry for bullshit stories, just read Grimms Fairy Tales !!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 23, 2019, 12:10:39 PM
6 grams weekly.....  synthol use....   still looks like a ghetto crackhead.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: The Keto Kid on September 23, 2019, 12:17:20 PM
It would be cool if he started a Bigger by the Day series like Piana, documenting his 6 grams of gear, training celebrities,  banging Chinese import models, chill in at the country club.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 12:21:24 PM
It would be cool if he started a Bigger by the Day series like Piana, documenting his 6 grams of gear, training celebrities,  banging Chinese import models, chill in at the country club.
All ridiculous unproven claims because he`s a blatant fucking liar.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 12:22:15 PM
It would be cool if he started a Bigger by the Day series like Piana, documenting his 6 grams of gear, training celebrities,  banging Chinese import models, chill in at the country club.

Bearing in mind hes banned from driving it would be pretty shit having to follow him around on foot leaving his apartment and going around to his dads to borrow money to fill his fridge
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: DooM_ on September 23, 2019, 02:15:06 PM
esf should write a book about his life
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 23, 2019, 02:16:19 PM
6 grams a well is late Dallas level, quite impossible to match, but...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 02:21:34 PM
esf should write a book about his life

he has....
(https://blog.lib.uiowa.edu/preservation/files/2011/01/IMG_8338.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2019, 02:49:58 PM
How would you overdose on a bottle of Advil?

Gas station overnight? Eh, you can use.google right? Was a good.market at about 10am on a Monday morning.

Cut off a.finger hiding in a hotel room? Finger was cut off in November, months prior. (Trigger finger jobless)

Yep, no back
https://www.instagram.com/p/aDb3Yuihvx/?igshid=1pqowiieygdqu

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No arms, no delts

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Pencil legs
https://www.instagram.com/p/XUAYOcChmS/?igshid=183hi778t4uoi

https://www.instagram.com/p/XyVS0BChpV/?igshid=5qd2vq6aopq1

Keep it coming.

Great photos. Clearly, you aren't camera shy. The scar on your butt is huge. The photos of it when it was opened-up are hard to look at. Is it just the way you hold your head or do you have an unusually long neck?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 02:56:24 PM
Great photos. Clearly, you aren't camera shy. The scar on your butt is huge. The photos of it when it was opened-up are hard to look at. Is it just the way you hold your head or do you have an unusually long neck?

fishing for a re-post?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2019, 02:58:19 PM
Hmm

Take an Advil that causes irreparable damage to the kidneys, and doesn't even work that well.

or

take Tylenol which causes repairable damage to the liver? (And works better)

Tough choice huh?

Depends. If you liver is already compromised, Advil might be a better choice. Anyway, how much one takes has a lot to do with whether it damages your body or not.  I doubt an occasional Advil, Tylenol or Aleve isn't likely to be a problem for most people. I prefer Aleve because it is also an anti-inflammatory. If I've taken 10 of them in the last 10 years, I'd be surprised. The only time I take any pain killer is when the arthritis in my hands gets unbearable.  
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2019, 03:03:20 PM
Your liver only regenrates to a certain degree depending on how damaged it is.

Good point. Otherwise,you could cure cirrhosis of the liver by changing your lifestyle habits.

Cirrhosis is a late stage of scarring (fibrosis) of the liver caused by many forms of liver diseases and conditions, such as hepatitis and chronic alcoholism. Each time your liver is injured — whether by disease, excessive alcohol consumption or another cause — it tries to repair itself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 03:13:53 PM
Good point. Otherwise,you could cure cirrhosis of the liver by changing your lifestyle habits.

Cirrhosis is a late stage ofmed that I also have HEpatitus C.fibrosis) of the liver caused by many forms of liver diseases and conditions, such as hepatitis and chronic alcoholism. Each time your liver is injured — whether by disease, excessive alcohol consumption or another cause — it tries to repair itself.
I have Hepatitus B which lies dormant in my system.

A few years later I was informed that I also have Hepatitus C.

Remakably enough my last visit to my doc I was told my Hep C was no longer present in my system.............compl etely erradicated and I took no meds for it.
 
My liver has no visible scarring,no lesions, and my liver enzyme count is perfect.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 23, 2019, 05:28:47 PM
ESF has finally realized that he can’t lie anymore. I hope those nasty lil baby mamas continue to keep the lord kids from this loser.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 23, 2019, 06:42:27 PM
I will give him compliments though.   His false teeth are really nice.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 23, 2019, 07:29:55 PM
What happened to his teeth? He is pretty young to have dentures. Was it the dope or did something happen?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 23, 2019, 07:41:51 PM
Wes - see if you can get a pic of one of the chunky lil greasers ESF made a child with. Can you imagine the class of woman that it must be.. I wonder what lies he spews to avoid being a dad.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 08:43:36 PM
I was told via PM that the has a fetish for fat,ugly Asian chicks.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 23, 2019, 08:57:55 PM
I am sure it’s all he can get. What respectable American girl would be seen with him?
Something tells me he is doped our of his head right now. You can tell by many of his posts that he uses opiates / benzos / alcohol - EVERY day.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 23, 2019, 10:10:40 PM
Great photos. Clearly, you aren't camera shy. The scar on your butt is huge. The photos of it when it was opened-up are hard to look at. Is it just the way you hold your head or do you have an unusually long neck?

Long? Always heard the opposite.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 23, 2019, 10:20:16 PM
I am sure it’s all he can get. What respectable American girl would be seen with him?
Something tells me he is doped our of his head right now. You can tell by many of his posts that he uses opiates / benzos / alcohol - EVERY day.

Haven't had opiates since the week or 2 after I was discharged from the hospital. Haven't had alcohol since Aug 2017 and was Oct 2016 before that. Haven't had benzos for about 3.5wks. I get a script every month for 1mgn klonopin 2x a day and had a guy offer to buy'em so I sold the rest. Same dose I've had a script for since about 01

Nice try.

You can keep your trailer park American girls who look 40 by the time they're 23. Cellulite, no lips, giant feet and all.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 10:22:25 PM
Haven't had opiates since the week or 2 after I was discharged from the hospital. Haven't had alcohol since Aug 2017 and was Oct 2016 before that. Haven't had benzos for about 3.5wks. I get a script every month for 1mgn klonopin 2x a day and had a guy offer to buy'em so I sold the rest. Same dose I've had a script for since about 01

Nice try.

You can keep your trailer park American girls who look 40 by the time they're 23. Cellulite, no lips, giant feet and all.

amazing, I always put drug addiction down as an excuse for your ramblings...
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 10:24:10 PM
Haven't had opiates since the week or 2 after I was discharged from the hospital. Haven't had alcohol since Aug 2017 and was Oct 2016 before that. Haven't had benzos for about 3.5wks. I get a script every month for 1mgn klonopin 2x a day and had a guy offer to buy'em so I sold the rest. Same dose I've had a script for since about 01

Nice try.

You can keep your trailer park American girls who look 40 by the time they're 23. Cellulite, no lips, giant feet and all.
Ever think of straightening out your life and staying clean and sober?

Reality sucks when your a substance abuse,r but after sometime not puking on your shoes gets to be a pretty good thing.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 10:27:20 PM
Wes - see if you can get a pic of one of the chunky lil greasers ESF made a child with. Can you imagine the class of woman that it must be.. I wonder what lies he spews to avoid being a dad.
I may just have to call on my buddy Josh as he knows the intricates of the dark web.

Oh yeah,Josh told me he hates ESF.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2019, 10:50:41 PM
I have Hepatitus B which lies dormant in my system.

A few years later I was informed that I also have Hepatitus C.

Remakably enough my last visit to my doc I was told my Hep C was no longer present in my system.............compl etely erradicated and I took no meds for it.
 
My liver has no visible scarring,no lesions, and my liver enzyme count is perfect.

This is great! Some people don't have such a great ability to heal. I didn't think it was possible to cure hepatitis C until the new meds were recently allowed on the market. A friend of my who had hepatitis C for most of his adult life, took these drugs and is now hep C free. His insurance covered it which is great since the series runs about $30,000.

I have some confusion regarding hepatitis. I once had hepatitis A and was sick as a dog for several weeks. Since I ate out all the time county health said it would be impossible to pinpoint which restaurant I may have got it from. I've never had hepatitis B and yet I have antibodies for it. It's possible I had the series of shots to prevent hepatitis B because the school district I worked for not only recommended them they paid for them. Unfortunately, I don't have a record of them.

Regardless, this has become a problem because my hematocrit is on the high side but within limits. My urologist wants me to bring it down. One way to do this is to donate blood. Red Cross doesn't want my blood because of the hepatitis B antibodies. My son who is a world traveler for the government, has also had the series of hepatitis B shots and he also can't give blood.

In the past, I drank as much as a pint of alcohol in an evening for several years. Despite this my liver enzymes are right were they should be. Guess I must be doing something right.  
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 11:03:47 PM
Stragely enough Prime.s as I said I took no meds and it is completely gone.

I guess I dodge a bullet on that one.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2019, 11:20:20 PM
Stragely enough Prime.s as I said I took no meds and it is completely gone.

I guess I dodge a bullet on that one.

I am happy for you. You must be doing something right.  :)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 23, 2019, 11:32:07 PM
Thanks bud..........much appreciated.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: DooM_ on September 24, 2019, 12:13:01 AM
esf , which anti-inflammatory is the most effective . . . ? and which is the safest for long term use . . . ?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 24, 2019, 03:08:09 AM
ESF


Any alternatives to bitcoin?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 03:53:34 AM
Ever think of straightening out your life and staying clean and sober?

Reality sucks when your a substance abuse,r but after sometime not puking on your shoes gets to be a pretty good thing.

Are you illiterate? "Ever think of...?" You even quoted it. Goes to show what 30yrs of crack, coke, meth and booze has done to your brain. Encephalopathy at it's finest.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 04:17:32 AM
esf , which anti-inflammatory is the most effective . . . ? and which is the safest for long term use . . . ?

Ice.

I don't care for any anti-inflammatory's. At least not after training, on days you train (or post-game), or for training soreness whatsoever.

Generally I prefer Tylenol, as it's a "pain reliever" instead.

For something temporary, away from any time-period you'd need to muscle group to recover (anti-inflammatory works be inhibition of prostaglandins which signal the recovery process to begin. Block that, and you inhibit recovery. If you recall Lutalyse, or pgf2 in the late 90s, that's the theory behind it. That it'd trigger growth/"recovery" w/o the actually training the muscle. Never planned out and s only good for causing stomach cramps and nearly shitting yourself)... Id rather take an Aleve over Advil, as Advil feels like it burns a hole in my stomach. Not to even mention what they do to kidneys (ask Alonzo Mourning, or even Shaq).

That said, I'd never advise any of the above "long term", but I'd feel safer taking Tylenol and if I had to take it daily for any length of time, 8 weeks or whatever, I'd get my ast/alt checked, or a liver panel in general. But if I needed something long term, there's a problem that should probably be fixed.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 24, 2019, 05:03:53 AM
Wow - this retard didn’t even realize that y’all were asking him questions in jest. He thought you seriously respected his opinion. ??? ;D ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 24, 2019, 06:38:06 AM
Ice.

I don't care for any anti-inflammatory's. At least not after training, on days you train (or post-game), or for training soreness whatsoever.

Generally I prefer Tylenol, as it's a "pain reliever" instead.

For something temporary, away from any time-period you'd need to muscle group to recover (anti-inflammatory works be inhibition of prostaglandins which signal the recovery process to begin. Block that, and you inhibit recovery. If you recall Lutalyse, or pgf2 in the late 90s, that's the theory behind it. That it'd trigger growth/"recovery" w/o the actually training the muscle. Never planned out and s only good for causing stomach cramps and nearly shitting yourself)... Id rather take an Aleve over Advil, as Advil feels like it burns a hole in my stomach. Not to even mention what they do to kidneys (ask Alonzo Mourning, or even Shaq).

That said, I'd never advise any of the above "long term", but I'd feel safer taking Tylenol and if I had to take it daily for any length of time, 8 weeks or whatever, I'd get my ast/alt checked, or a liver panel in general. But if I needed something long term, there's a problem that should probably be fixed.

so Tylenol works on you but opiates don't, gothcha...thanks for that
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 24, 2019, 06:46:20 AM
Awwww damn it Jo! Why did you have to do and do that??  ;D Now ESF will soon some totally unrelated story in an attempt to somehow explain his vast knowledge of pharmacology.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 24, 2019, 06:50:49 AM
Awwww damn it Jo! Why did you have to do and do that??  ;D Now ESF will soon some totally unrelated story in an attempt to somehow explain his vast knowledge of pharmacology.

hes like a computer with a virus just throwing out random shite and non-sensical waffle and pulling up endless Wikipedia pages he has written himself.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: DooM_ on September 24, 2019, 07:31:36 AM
Ice.

I don't care for any anti-inflammatory's. At least not after training, on days you train (or post-game), or for training soreness whatsoever.

Generally I prefer Tylenol, as it's a "pain reliever" instead.

For something temporary, away from any time-period you'd need to muscle group to recover (anti-inflammatory works be inhibition of prostaglandins which signal the recovery process to begin. Block that, and you inhibit recovery. If you recall Lutalyse, or pgf2 in the late 90s, that's the theory behind it. That it'd trigger growth/"recovery" w/o the actually training the muscle. Never planned out and s only good for causing stomach cramps and nearly shitting yourself)... Id rather take an Aleve over Advil, as Advil feels like it burns a hole in my stomach. Not to even mention what they do to kidneys (ask Alonzo Mourning, or even Shaq).

That said, I'd never advise any of the above "long term", but I'd feel safer taking Tylenol and if I had to take it daily for any length of time, 8 weeks or whatever, I'd get my ast/alt checked, or a liver panel in general. But if I needed something long term, there's a problem that should probably be fixed.

good info , thanks
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 24, 2019, 09:31:03 AM
hes like a computer with a virus just throwing out random shite and non-sensical waffle and pulling up endless Wikipedia pages he has written himself.

The guys has zero actual education (maybe he made it through high school?) - but attempts to come off as an expert. It’s his severe insecurities that cause him to seek validation via the internet. He is dismissed as a knucklehead in his real life and rather than just being a normal guy online who shares info but is able to admit when he doesn’t know something - he desperately needs to feel like a “guru”.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 24, 2019, 12:55:37 PM
The guys has zero actual education (maybe he made it through high school?) - but attempts to come off as an expert. It’s his severe insecurities that cause him to seek validation via the internet. He is dismissed as a knucklehead in his real life and rather than just being a normal guy online who shares info but is able to admit when he doesn’t know something - he desperately needs to feel like a “guru”.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6J2MfSHPYJHIwuvOhxlSiFVJsE6yR9nwE5SI_jczX_VQB55ur)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 24, 2019, 12:57:58 PM
so Tylenol works on you but opiates don't, gothcha...thanks for that
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 24, 2019, 01:03:49 PM
Whoah - stared at that clapping pic (enlarged it on phone) for a few minutes and it kind of freaked me out!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 04:48:21 PM
so Tylenol works on you but opiates don't, gothcha...thanks for that

So opiates only "work" if they make you nod off and get "high"?

Again, opiate experts whos only knowledge comes from Google or a Time magazine article and only experience is a couple Vicodin from a dentist.

Keep it up.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 05:09:01 PM
Awwww damn it Jo! Why did you have to do and do that??  ;D Now ESF will soon some totally unrelated story in an attempt to somehow explain his vast knowledge of pharmacology.
Wow - this retard didn’t even realize that y’all were asking him questions in jest. He thought you seriously respected his opinion. ??? ;D ;D

So now you're having a conversation with yourself?

You should throw in a couple more gimmick accounts so it's not so obvious.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 24, 2019, 06:23:46 PM
So now you're having a conversation with yourself?

You should throw in a couple more gimmick accounts so it's not so obvious.

I am not following you lil fella. I was replying to the Jo dude. Dope got you high?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 24, 2019, 06:33:15 PM
So opiates only "work" if they make you nod off and get "high"?

Again, opiate experts whos only knowledge comes from Google or a Time magazine article and only experience is a couple Vicodin from a dentist.

Keep it up.
MIne comes from real life Mr, 120K !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 24, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
So what have we got so far?

Drug addict
NASCAR driver
NAMBLA sponsor
multiple babies
multiple baby mamas
gf with multiple kids by someone else
multiple arrests
multiple health crisises
Banned from driving
IG drug dealer
crappy ass personal trainer
SWAT team resister
Mexican cartel buddy
celebrity rehab urinal stalker
6 grams roids + synthol = dad bod
teenage insulin use advocate
doped to the gills to get through a day of high school PE
top secret pro card creator
claims he could have gotten to 280-300lbs fit shape but he was too lazy eat to do so (so just took 6 grams of bunk gear instead)

I miss anything?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 24, 2019, 06:41:38 PM
Trained several pro bodybuilders.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 24, 2019, 07:28:34 PM
Trained several pro bodybuilders.

Yeah, I included that in the "top secret pro card creator". 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 24, 2019, 07:46:34 PM
Yeah, I included that in the "top secret pro card creator". 
My bad,but I`m sure if we search hard enough,we can find more great things he`s accomplished!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 24, 2019, 07:56:44 PM
The knucklehead couldn’t see that I was replying to another poster??? He must be doped out of his skull right now.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 24, 2019, 08:08:27 PM
The knucklehead couldn’t see that I was replying to another poster??? He must be doped out of his skull right now.

He's not doped!!!  He is just "winning the war against reality right now".
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 24, 2019, 09:31:09 PM
He's not doped!!!  He is just "winning the war against reality right now".


 ;D.  At least he is winning at something!!

He is so proud to think he knows how to be more of an addicted scum bucket than anyone else. I guess everyone has goals!
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 10:35:21 PM
My bad,but I`m sure if we search hard enough,we can find more great things he`s accomplished!

The dumbfuck junkie you've been getting your "insider info" is indeed Scott Markey.

You know, the 54yr old bum who gets kicked out of his girlfriends homes and has to trade sex with men in exchange for sleeping on the couch and dances for men and let's them suck him off for drug money.

Title: Re: ESF
Post by: BB on September 24, 2019, 10:52:24 PM
The dumbfuck junkie you've been getting your "insider info" is indeed Scott Markey.

You know, the 54yr old bum who gets kicked out of his girlfriends homes and has to trade sex with men in exchange for sleeping on the couch and dances for men and let's them suck him off for drug money.



This guy ? -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=160810.0 .

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sjchJK3u8oI/UDy-KqzJvFI/AAAAAAADr4s/I0sW_VyFimo/s400/002.jpg ?

Blast from the past.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 11:42:36 PM
This guy ? -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=160810.0 .

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sjchJK3u8oI/UDy-KqzJvFI/AAAAAAADr4s/I0sW_VyFimo/s400/002.jpg ?

Blast from the past.

Yea.

Dude says in the PM to wes that I'm "always on ghb. And when I couldn't get ghb anymore I'd make gbl out of drain cleaner" hahaha...

The dude got butthurt when he found out I had a gbl source for a few months that was sold in RiteAide. The dude was a GHB addict for years. Even OD'd on it and woke up in the hospital with no pants because he pissed and shit himself. I've never even had GHB, and only used gbl for a few months after I quit nubain. Funny because it was him who'd explain that you'd convert gbl to ghb with "drain cleaner".

Says he's "met all my gfs and baby mom's". He's met 1, and she couldn't stand him. Thought he was a scumbag junkie creep.

Remember how Drea called me one Saturday crying because she was bleeding a TON because you'd been giving her anadrol instead of anavar and she hadn't had her period for months and all of a sudden she's at work at Nutrisport at the gym and she called you to go to the store and bring her pads and a change of clothes and you were screaming at her and refused to. (You made HER work while you refused to) She calls me and me and my ex happened to be downtown at a BBQ and I drove up the 5 and dropped off a package of pads for her and have her a pair of black Adidas pants i had in the trunk? Soon as I get to the parking lot you called and acted like "everything was cool" and like I didn't know you were just on the phone screaming at her? Remember that? Pathetic.

Remember how you sat I my car I the parking lot while me and Drea walked across into Mexico and you made her stuff all your pills up her vagina because you couldn't go through customs because you STILL had warrants for domestic violence from previous gfs? And we brought back some trazadone and you may her take them out in my back seat so you could have a shot of.nubain and take pills and you had no idea what trazadone was but took 2 anyways (in true junkie fashion) and we thought you OD'd because you were unresponsive within 10mins? Remember that?

Remember when you did too much coke and shit your pants in that girls bathroom and jumped out the window and got your shit splattered underwater caught on her fence when you jumped over running home?

Remember when your best friend Cameron came up from Florida with his gf and he knocked you out in the lobby of World gym for hitting on her? In front of Brad, moose, Jeff Ward, debbie, and Sandra? Remember how you started crying because you thought the oil you were putting on the cut wasn't working and you were gonna have a scar on your cheek? Hahaha

Remember how I bailed you out when Drea found a pink toothbrush in the bathroom left by some chic when she was in Brazil over the holidays and you called me to tell her it was mine from when I crashed there overnight on my way to Mexico. You were scared to death because the apt was in her name and credit cards were in her mom's name, who paid for everything, including the.groceries you are and she was gonna kick you out with nothing more than the clothes you owned and your little collection.bodybuilding mags. Fucken voice quivering trying to.convince her hahaha.. you didn't realize you hadn't hung up the phone yet and I could hear every word you were saying to her lol.

Your whole resume when applying for a job was to go over to the magazine rack and pick up through the magazines where you had a little picture in and I told you I could only pay you minimum wage and I could only give you part-time hours and before I could get the fucking words out you yell out "I'll take it! I'll take it!!", And you couldn't afford to buy a $12 company polo shirt uniform and only had 1 white collared shirt and you'd freak out and run straight to the bathroom when you would have your weekly nose bleeds and drip Blood on the sleeve from your 2 decades of cocaine abuse.

Remember how you'd claim 14 dependants on your taxes so you'd get as much money as possible and use a bogus SSN?(you're welcome) Never intended on paying your taxes anyways.

It goes on

And on

And on
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 11:48:34 PM
He sent Wes a PM saying esf has never been above 175 and skinny fat lol.

Says how he'd put the flat bench in a squat rack at 30° (which is true) and how esf couldn't bench 135 hahahaha

It goes on and on and Wes believed it hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 24, 2019, 11:50:48 PM
The dumbfuck junkie you've been getting your "insider info" is indeed Scott Markey.

You know, the 54yr old bum who gets kicked out of his girlfriends homes and has to trade sex with men in exchange for sleeping on the couch and dances for men and let's them suck him off for drug money.



Is this the guy who can't get it up even with cialis and has the herpes?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 11:53:50 PM
He posts here as "Bailey" which is the name of his ex-girlfriend's Jack Russell terrier, which he thought was his and she kept when she kicked him out.

Remember when she kick you out "Tavi"? you had nobody else to call but me at midnight in the middle of the fucking week to come and pick you up with your suitcase and you had to leave your little bicycle at the store when you were drunk off of wine.

I remember outing him as posting as Bailey when I saw him Marcel I post of his talking about Mike Ashley and jpg in San Diego. Remember that story used to tell me about Mike Ashley there Scotty? How you were in a car with Mike and a how Mike made the car pull over to the side of the road on the way to a guest posing so he could get out and shoot up his delts with Primo?

You see cokehead, I remember everything.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 24, 2019, 11:55:17 PM
Is this the guy who can't get it up even with cialis and has the herpes?

It was Viagra back then, but yea. Same guy.

Cialis wasn't out I don't believe back then.

Haven't seen this loser since he took $10 from me for Valium back in 04
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 24, 2019, 11:55:38 PM
LMFAO. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 25, 2019, 12:06:22 AM
Is this the guy who can't get it up even with cialis and has the herpes?

Not sure you have to "get it up" to catch herpes....not that I would know.  ;)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 25, 2019, 12:09:04 AM
Not sure you have to "get it up" to catch herpes....not that I would know.  ;)

Thank you Dr. Oz but I wasn't trying to connect the two.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Bevo on September 25, 2019, 12:43:03 AM
Is this the guy who can't get it up even with cialis and has the herpes?

Scott Markey is a guy with a very small cock
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 25, 2019, 01:06:58 AM
Scott Markey is a guy with a very small cock

The hat trick!  Small cock.  Limp dick.  Herpes. 
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 25, 2019, 01:12:09 AM
I got 4 guys sending me PM`s.........if Scott is one of them it`s news to me.

They are anonymous and asked to stat that way.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Bevo on September 25, 2019, 02:18:47 AM
I got 4 guys sending me PM`s.........if Scott is one of them it`s news to me.

They are anonymous and asked to stat that way.

G4P? Schmoe sessions?  :D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: wes on September 25, 2019, 02:23:44 AM
EXIT ONLY BABY !!  LOL    ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 25, 2019, 06:09:43 AM
He posts here as "Bailey" which is the name of his ex-girlfriend's Jack Russell terrier, which he thought was his and she kept when she kicked him out.

Remember when she kick you out "Tavi"? you had nobody else to call but me at midnight in the middle of the fucking week to come and pick you up with your suitcase and you had to leave your little bicycle at the store when you were drunk off of wine.

I remember outing him as posting as Bailey when I saw him Marcel I post of his talking about Mike Ashley and jpg in San Diego. Remember that story used to tell me about Mike Ashley there Scotty? How you were in a car with Mike and a how Mike made the car pull over to the side of the road on the way to a guest posing so he could get out and shoot up his delts with Primo?

You see cokehead, I remember everything.

Its odd you know so much about him yet he had to see a photo of you to know who you were and boy did laugh his ass off when he saw it
Its amazing that these people are such an integral part of your life yet they hardly even remember you.

Chris Cormier for one has no idea who you are yet you seem to beleive you have been acquaintances for 17 years..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Kwon on September 25, 2019, 06:46:58 AM
EXIT ONLY BABY !!  LOL    ;D

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/1d1b07cb8ead1d0443c3f8ae2b842fba/31fa62595737824a-1b/s640x960/81a1558badcdfca0558fd3a5bbd7579418f96367.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: falco on September 25, 2019, 08:18:20 AM
I don't care if the stories are real or not, this guy is entertaining! ESF you should start filming some day in the life videos for us.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MaleBriskKob-small.gif)

 :D
Title: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: SF1900 on September 25, 2019, 04:53:39 PM
What is your IQ? Have you ever gotten it tested?
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: wes on September 25, 2019, 04:55:04 PM
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 25, 2019, 05:21:14 PM
'dan18' apparently scored 177 on an IQ test, putting him into the 'upper crust' of society:

highly unlikely Yes, 190 is a good IQ score. In fact, 190 IQ means that you are very gifted and highly advanced. A 190 IQ would put you in the upper crust of highly intelligent people in this society. To put it in perspective, most IQ scores range from 40 to 140.
And most IQ tests are flawed  mine had me at 177 im sure its more like 160

ESFitness has also claimed to have an IQ score of 160. Amazing, isn't it? Matt Canning, dan18, ESFitness, etc. Getbig truly is a 'special' place.

(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/Ic97mPViHEG5O/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: SF1900 on September 25, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
'dan18' apparently scored 177 on an IQ test, putting him into the 'upper crust' of society:

ESFitness has also claimed to have an IQ score of 160. Amazing, isn't it? Matt Canning, dan18, ESFitness, etc. Getbig truly is a 'special' place.

(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/Ic97mPViHEG5O/giphy.gif)

Actually most IQ scores fall between 90-110 (68% of the population), not 40-140.

I doubt dan18 had a 177 IQ.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 25, 2019, 05:57:47 PM
Thank you Dr. Oz but I wasn't trying to connect the two.

Dr. Oz  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: ESFitness on September 25, 2019, 07:26:23 PM
Took 3
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: Dave D on September 25, 2019, 07:27:36 PM
Took 3

AND?

Dont keep us in suspense bro!
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: SF1900 on September 25, 2019, 07:27:46 PM
Took 3

Which ones?
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 25, 2019, 07:33:23 PM
Its odd you know so much about him yet he had to see a photo of you to know who you were and boy did laugh his ass off when he saw it
Its amazing that these people are such an integral part of your life yet they hardly even remember you.

Chris Cormier for one has no idea who you are yet you seem to beleive you have been acquaintances for 17 years..

Typical how you twist coach saying Chris is nothing but a "piece of shit asshole", and me saying that's the first I've heard of it inn17yrs into "we've been best buddies and acquaintances and roommates for 17 years", which is exactly what in showed him. Didn't seem to give a fuck about what some 50 + year old loser on get big with a learning disability and mental illness had to say about any of it, who is delusional enough to chalk this up as some sort of pathetic "victory".

People like you are exactly whynpros don't post here anymore
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 25, 2019, 07:38:27 PM
.

People like you are exactly whynpros don't post here anymore

Well Facebook/Instagram/Twitter are a big reason message boards have declined in popularity, but pros still post here, only anonymously.
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: XFACTOR on September 25, 2019, 08:29:23 PM
Oh fuck this is going to be awesome. Love the thread.
Title: Re: ESFITNESS.....
Post by: XFACTOR on September 25, 2019, 08:32:22 PM
Took 3

This has to be a fake account. No way this is real. Like where to even start.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2019, 08:32:28 PM
Typical how you twist coach saying Chris is nothing but a "piece of shit asshole", and me saying that's the first I've heard of it inn17yrs into "we've been best buddies and acquaintances and roommates for 17 years", which is exactly what in showed him. Didn't seem to give a fuck about what some 50 + year old loser on get big with a learning disability and mental illness had to say about any of it, who is delusional enough to chalk this up as some sort of pathetic "victory".

People like you are exactly whynpros don't post here anymore

Lol... easy cupcake. I base him being an asshole from an exchange we had on IG regarding Ashkanani and how he reacted to his followers when Breon lost taking personal shots at Bumsteds coach and Bumsted himself. Chris is one of the very few I see at Golds that have no desire to talk to.

But if you’re going to take personal shots at me, remember, you know shit about bodybuilding that’s goes for prep, drugs and training. Check yourself, Junior
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Ron on September 25, 2019, 08:35:01 PM

ESF is not an ass. Debating is debating.  Can't get mad for intelligent debates.   

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 25, 2019, 08:54:31 PM
Oh shit !!! Ron sounded off - mic drop.

Ummm - I’m kind of old so I don’t know if mic drop applies here but I heard my nephew say it and I’m trying to sound cool.  ;D.  School me if I used it wrong - honestly I am not sure
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 25, 2019, 10:18:46 PM
Joe is gonna school his moron.
Title: Wes' Friend
Post by: stopnailtime on September 25, 2019, 10:43:10 PM
Hi getbig. My name is Barry and I have been friends with Tim (Wes on here) for around 45 years. We are both old veterans of the iron and have seen our fair share of issues in life. I made this account so I could address this EFS guy who Tim gets mad about. I read all of the posts from ESF to Wes and really believe the guy is full of shit. Tim has lived a hard life and from what I read all that other guy has lived is a world or lies. Tim just isnt the kind of guy to back down from anyone, he's the toughest son of a bitch Ive ever known.

Tim isn't wealthy, and neither am I. I threw it to Tim that we should fly down to where this ESF lives and have a face to face with him. Tim loved the idea cause we are both old and may as well, only one life to live.I will pay my own way and all accomodations but Tim needs some financial help with his end. I was hoping  his friends on here might want to throw a few bucks into a pool and get him a plane ticket to California. We would go for sure, it would be a hell of a time and a great story for here.

Tim (Wes) will let you know here that I am who I say I am and we will go for it if this trip happens. Lets have some fun Tim
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Ron on September 25, 2019, 10:48:33 PM
Joe is gonna school his moron.

Joe has the ability to school him!  He knows his stuff!

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on September 25, 2019, 10:57:53 PM
Joe has the ability to school him!  He knows his stuff!



I believe he does

I’ve said it here before he should go full blown training pros then, easy money

Look at Andrew Vu and all the guys he trains, pros too ( he trained Labrada’s son and he turned pro)

People are probably asking who the fuck is Andrew Vu, my point exactly, schmoes will pay  ;D
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: visualizeperfection on September 25, 2019, 11:11:38 PM
Oh fuck yeah I would love to pay for your vacation.

Bring a gun, let’s just see what happens.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 25, 2019, 11:17:07 PM
Joe has the ability to school him!  He knows his stuff!


Without a shadow of a doubt Ron.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 25, 2019, 11:21:35 PM
Hi getbig. My name is Barry and I have been friends with Tim (Wes on here) for around 45 years. We are both old veterans of the iron and have seen our fair share of issues in life. I made this account so I could address this EFS guy who Tim gets mad about. I read all of the posts from ESF to Wes and really believe the guy is full of shit. Tim has lived a hard life and from what I read all that other guy has lived is a world or lies. Tim just isnt the kind of guy to back down from anyone, he's the toughest son of a bitch Ive ever known.

Tim isn't wealthy, and neither am I. I threw it to Tim that we should fly down to where this ESF lives and have a face to face with him. Tim loved the idea cause we are both old and may as well, only one life to live.I will pay my own way and all accomodations but Tim needs some financial help with his end. I was hoping  his friends on here might want to throw a few bucks into a pool and get him a plane ticket to California. We would go for sure, it would be a hell of a time and a great story for here.

Tim (Wes) will let you know here that I am who I say I am and we will go for it if this trip happens. Lets have some fun Tim
Thanks brother.,,I`m ready for anything he brings to the table.

Oh yeah,ESF.............................go fuck yourself you queer!
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Matt on September 25, 2019, 11:30:52 PM
Hi getbig. My name is Barry and I have been friends with Tim (Wes on here) for around 45 years. We are both old veterans of the iron and have seen our fair share of issues in life. I made this account so I could address this EFS guy who Tim gets mad about. I read all of the posts from ESF to Wes and really believe the guy is full of shit. Tim has lived a hard life and from what I read all that other guy has lived is a world or lies. Tim just isnt the kind of guy to back down from anyone, he's the toughest son of a bitch Ive ever known.

Tim isn't wealthy, and neither am I. I threw it to Tim that we should fly down to where this ESF lives and have a face to face with him. Tim loved the idea cause we are both old and may as well, only one life to live.I will pay my own way and all accomodations but Tim needs some financial help with his end. I was hoping  his friends on here might want to throw a few bucks into a pool and get him a plane ticket to California. We would go for sure, it would be a hell of a time and a great story for here.

Tim (Wes) will let you know here that I am who I say I am and we will go for it if this trip happens. Lets have some fun Tim

People from Massachusetts are not allowed to post here.

Just kidding.

WELCOME TO THE THUNDER-BAY-DOME, FUCKFACE!!!!111

PS - Does this also mean you know 1983 NABBA Mr. Universe Jeff King?
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Tapeworm on September 26, 2019, 12:31:20 AM
Wes, I like you but this is the worst idea ever. I've often suspected that a board feud would spill over into the real world someday and someone would end up doing time over it. I'd hate for it to be you.

You're documenting your intention to go confront a guy that you have bad blood with. This is un-smart, my friend.

And if you're just boiling and don't care, take a minute and look around. We've got anything we want to eat, drink, or do. Open sky above, wonderful world all around. There are beautiful women to see, and some you even get to fuck. Compare that to being in jail. We're living in paradise. All you have to do is not fuck it up.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: The Italian Lifter on September 26, 2019, 12:38:18 AM
Honestly I hope it's just a joke.
Wes is way too smart and experienced to make such a poor choice.
Btw the Internet it's not real, and here it's all facade and pretending.
Entertaining but definitely not real.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Bevo on September 26, 2019, 01:06:35 AM
Wes, I like you but this is the worst idea ever. I've often suspected that a board feud would spill over into the real world someday and someone would end up doing time over it. I'd hate for it to be you.

You're documenting your intention to go confront a guy that you have bad blood with. This is un-smart, my friend.

And if you're just boiling and don't care, take a minute and look around. We've got anything we want to eat, drink, or do. Open sky above, wonderful world all around. There are beautiful women to see, and some you even get to fuck. Compare that to being in jail. We're living in paradise. All you have to do is not fuck it up.

Fuck you, I want to see bloodshed, fight to death!!
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Flexacon on September 26, 2019, 01:21:34 AM
Hi getbig. My name is Barry and I have been friends with Tim (Wes on here) for around 45 years. We are both old veterans of the iron and have seen our fair share of issues in life. I made this account so I could address this EFS guy who Tim gets mad about. I read all of the posts from ESF to Wes and really believe the guy is full of shit. Tim has lived a hard life and from what I read all that other guy has lived is a world or lies. Tim just isnt the kind of guy to back down from anyone, he's the toughest son of a bitch Ive ever known.

Tim isn't wealthy, and neither am I. I threw it to Tim that we should fly down to where this ESF lives and have a face to face with him. Tim loved the idea cause we are both old and may as well, only one life to live.I will pay my own way and all accomodations but Tim needs some financial help with his end. I was hoping  his friends on here might want to throw a few bucks into a pool and get him a plane ticket to California. We would go for sure, it would be a hell of a time and a great story for here.

Tim (Wes) will let you know here that I am who I say I am and we will go for it if this trip happens. Lets have some fun Tim

Hi Arce
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 26, 2019, 01:25:24 AM
Typical how you twist coach saying Chris is nothing but a "piece of shit asshole", and me saying that's the first I've heard of it inn17yrs into "we've been best buddies and acquaintances and roommates for 17 years", which is exactly what in showed him. Didn't seem to give a fuck about what some 50 + year old loser on get big with a learning disability and mental illness had to say about any of it, who is delusional enough to chalk this up as some sort of pathetic "victory".

People like you are exactly whynpros don't post here anymore

so you dont know him at all then?

Fine, but dont insinuate that you do by saying you have known him 17 years , that gives the impression you do know him.

Its OK I expected that type of post now you have been found out as lying again..
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 26, 2019, 01:29:48 AM
ESF is not an ass. Debating is debating.  Can't get mad for intelligent debates.   


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/0b/c2/ed0bc2c2d92398264ca22a80325f07a4.gif)
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 01:36:00 AM
Wes, I like you but this is the worst idea ever. I've often suspected that a board feud would spill over into the real world someday and someone would end up doing time over it. I'd hate for it to be you.

You're documenting your intention to go confront a guy that you have bad blood with. This is un-smart, my friend.

And if you're just boiling and don't care, take a minute and look around. We've got anything we want to eat, drink, or do. Open sky above, wonderful world all around. There are beautiful women to see, and some you even get to fuck. Compare that to being in jail. We're living in paradise. All you have to do is not fuck it up.
Tape my ffiend.......I`ve known you a longtime buddy and you`v alway sbeen a great guy.

But please just t his once,stop making so much fucking sense! LOL ;D
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 01:37:27 AM
People from Massachusetts are not allowed to post here.

Just kidding.

WELCOME TO THE THUNDER-BAY-DOME, FUCKFACE!!!!111

PS - Does this also mean you know 1983 NABBA Mr. Universe Jeff King?
Matt,did you know that Jff is 5 feet ten inches tall.

Just an aside! 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 01:39:33 AM
Typical how you twist coach saying Chris is nothing but a "piece of shit asshole", and me saying that's the first I've heard of it inn17yrs into "we've been best buddies and acquaintances and roommates for 17 years", which is exactly what in showed him. Didn't seem to give a fuck about what some 50 + year old loser on get big with a learning disability and mental illness had to say about any of it, who is delusional enough to chalk this up as some sort of pathetic "victory".

People like you are exactly whynpros don't post here anymore
Nikka got caught in yet another lie !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Rascal full on September 26, 2019, 01:51:00 AM
Wes, I like you but this is the worst idea ever. I've often suspected that a board feud would spill over into the real world someday and someone would end up doing time over it. I'd hate for it to be you.

You're documenting your intention to go confront a guy that you have bad blood with. This is un-smart, my friend.

And if you're just boiling and don't care, take a minute and look around. We've got anything we want to eat, drink, or do. Open sky above, wonderful world all around. There are beautiful women to see, and some you even get to fuck. Compare that to being in jail. We're living in paradise. All you have to do is not fuck it up.

Quote of the day. Be careful with this one Wes, avoiding trouble comes from experience, you know where that road leads and it's never good.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 26, 2019, 01:51:28 AM

People like you are exactly whynpros don't post here anymore

why dont you make it part of your PT deal to get them to post here after you have turned them pro?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 01:53:02 AM
why dont you make it part of your PT deal to get them to post here after you have turned them pro?
;D
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 01:55:28 AM
Quote of the day. Be careful with this one Wes, avoiding trouble comes from experience, you know where that road leads and it's never good.
I`ve learned that lesson many times over...............this guy with his lies just burns my ass.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Henda on September 26, 2019, 01:57:47 AM
Wes you are an absolutely awesome bloke and seem to be at a good point in life after everything you have been through and overcame, please listen to tapeworm and not get caught up in taking internet shit into real life, it’s all just daft carry on in the end I know you’ve recently had family tragedy and are likely a bit wound up at minute please don’t let shit get to you take care friend
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 26, 2019, 02:00:04 AM
Joe has the ability to school him!  He knows his stuff!



I'm sick and tired of your polite, positive, level headed posts...  >:(
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 02:13:14 AM
I hear you Henda and thanks my friend...............you`re a greatguy.

I`m a bit in my emotions I guess.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: SF1900 on September 26, 2019, 02:32:18 AM
Internet is serious business.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 26, 2019, 03:00:00 AM
Typical how you twist coach saying Chris is nothing but a "piece of shit asshole", and me saying that's the first I've heard of it inn17yrs into "we've been best buddies and acquaintances and roommates for 17 years", which is exactly what in showed him. Didn't seem to give a fuck about what some 50 + year old loser on get big with a learning disability and mental illness had to say about any of it, who is delusional enough to chalk this up as some sort of pathetic "victory".

People like you are exactly whynpros don't post here anymore

Which 3 did you take and why?
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Tapeworm on September 26, 2019, 03:20:23 AM
Tape my ffiend.......I`ve known you a longtime buddy and you`v alway sbeen a great guy.

But please just t his once,stop making so much fucking sense! LOL ;D

Ya alright then. Sic 'em boy! ;D
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 26, 2019, 03:42:43 AM
Which 3 did you take and why?

I'd have to look back through boxes. Each one was snbit diff m feel free to search. I've talked about them before. Has next to nothing to do with bbing and you trolls would flame those anyways.


Keep on getting triggered
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: SF1900 on September 26, 2019, 04:21:26 AM
I'd have to look back through boxes. Each one was snbit diff m feel free to search. I've talked about them before. Has next to nothing to do with bbing and you trolls would flame those anyways.


Keep on getting triggered

Where did I get triggered?

I asked a simple question. Seems like you’re the one getting triggered.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 26, 2019, 05:56:16 AM
ESF is not an ass. Debating is debating.  Can't get mad for intelligent debates.   



There is nothing intelligent about ESF.  His stories are hogwash mixed with Anti Semitism,  bigotry, and homophobia.  He has consistently lied and embellished statements...period
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: joswift on September 26, 2019, 06:00:48 AM
I'd have to look back through boxes. Each one was snbit diff m feel free to search. I've talked about them before. Has next to nothing to do with bbing and you trolls would flame those anyways.


Keep on getting triggered

Look back through boxes?
Yet you remember how many peices of sushi you had in a story that happened 20 years ago...fucks sake, selective memory indeed.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: falco on September 26, 2019, 06:01:29 AM
Where is the gofundme page? Links please, i want to donate.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: dan18 on September 26, 2019, 06:28:04 AM
Hi getbig. My name is Barry and I have been friends with Tim (Wes on here) for around 45 years. We are both old veterans of the iron and have seen our fair share of issues in life. I made this account so I could address this EFS guy who Tim gets mad about. I read all of the posts from ESF to Wes and really believe the guy is full of shit. Tim has lived a hard life and from what I read all that other guy has lived is a world or lies. Tim just isnt the kind of guy to back down from anyone, he's the toughest son of a bitch Ive ever known.

Tim isn't wealthy, and neither am I. I threw it to Tim that we should fly down to where this ESF lives and have a face to face with him. Tim loved the idea cause we are both old and may as well, only one life to live.I will pay my own way and all accomodations but Tim needs some financial help with his end. I was hoping  his friends on here might want to throw a few bucks into a pool and get him a plane ticket to California. We would go for sure, it would be a hell of a time and a great story for here.

Tim (Wes) will let you know here that I am who I say I am and we will go for it if this trip happens. Lets have some fun Tim
Great another gimmick welcome again
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 26, 2019, 07:17:19 AM
What da....?
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 26, 2019, 07:19:42 AM
I hear you Henda and thanks my friend...............you`re a greatguy.

I`m a bit in my emotions I guess.

Just an opinion, dont have to hear/read my words. Get in the Ring, stream the whole thing. Have a honest fight with ESF for money, not pride.

We would back this up, not a street brawl.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Rascal full on September 26, 2019, 07:32:53 AM
Fighting over a little internet beef is ridiculous and I think Wes is far too canny for that sort of thing. I enjoy the back and forth banter and all that but would hate to see it escalate into real life. As much as I know ESF is talking nonsense regularly he has been a solid contributor over the years and I definitely don't wish him any harm. Wes you have done incredibly well turning your life around and your bodybuilding experience and boxing knowledge is fantastic. Both guys help to make this place what it is, hope it goes no further.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Darren Avey on September 26, 2019, 07:34:28 AM
Be careful.  ESF doesn't take kindly to disrespect
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: joswift on September 26, 2019, 07:36:33 AM
Be careful.  ESF doesn't take kindly to disrespect

every time i hear one of his bad ass stories I just see this..
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Dave D on September 26, 2019, 07:59:44 AM
Just an opinion, dont have to hear/read my words. Get in the Ring, stream the whole thing. Have a honest fight with ESF for money, not pride.

We would back this up, not a street brawl.

Oh you'd back this up but you'd RUN AND CRY when presented with the same opportunity from Pellius.

So please stay out of this.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Dave D on September 26, 2019, 08:03:04 AM
Look back through boxes?
Yet you remember how many peices of sushi you had in a story that happened 20 years ago...fucks sake, selective memory indeed.

Lol
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: stopnailtime on September 26, 2019, 09:05:23 AM
hello friends. After reading the replies I am surprised so many are against Tim going.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: joswift on September 26, 2019, 09:07:50 AM
hello friends. After reading the replies I am surprised so many are against Tim going.

Have you heard of an organisation called "help the aged"?
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: stopnailtime on September 26, 2019, 09:09:37 AM
Have you heard of an organisation called "help the aged"?

no I havent, I will google it
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Dave D on September 26, 2019, 09:55:42 AM
I have pm's that say you're not Wes's friend and you will not use the money for hos flight.
Title: Re: ESF
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 26, 2019, 10:01:04 AM
There is nothing intelligent about ESF.  His stories are hogwash mixed with Anti Semitism,  bigotry, and homophobia.  He has consistently lied and embellished statements...period

I could be wrong but I think Ron was being facetious
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 26, 2019, 10:40:37 AM
Oh you'd back this up but you'd RUN AND CRY when presented with the same opportunity from Pellius.

So please stay out of this.

Did I? Ask Pellius for the message. I said that I would, with conditions. But, if you prefer to lie or pretend another thing, its up 2 you
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 10:41:44 AM
Got some troubling news at the doctors this morning.............very bad indeed so for now and forever,ESF can suck a bag of dicks.

Bigger fish to fry and it may mean my life so fuck his lies.

Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Taffin on September 26, 2019, 10:49:17 AM
Got some troubling news at the doctors this morning.............very bad indeed so for now and forever,ESF can suck a bag of dicks.

Bigger fish to fry and it may mean my life so fuck his lies.


 :o  What..!?!  Please say it ain't so..!!! 

Sending you positive thoughts dude
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: dan18 on September 26, 2019, 10:52:34 AM
Got some troubling news at the doctors this morning.............very bad indeed so for now and forever,ESF can suck a bag of dicks.

Bigger fish to fry and it may mean my life so fuck his lies.


That sucks brother all games aside, hope you get through it.............
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
Well,I wasn`t gonna discuss it on here right away,but the doc says I may have lung cancer.

Asked me to go for a test which I refused to do.

With my anxiety issues if I knew I had it,I`d more than likely hang myself in my barn.,

Really depressed right now..............picked the wrong time of the month to stop sniffing glue LOL  ;D

Anyway,this is the first time in eons whereI truly feel like buying a few cases of Bud and a quauart of Tequila.

But I`ll ride it out like a man...........if I do have it,I lived an interesting life if nothing else.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Hulkotron on September 26, 2019, 11:01:57 AM
Sorry to hear that was, hope you beat it.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 26, 2019, 11:03:56 AM
Well,I wasn`t gonna discuss it on here right away,but the doc says I may have lung cancer.

Asked me to go for a test which I refused to do.

With my anxiety issues if I knew I had it,I`d more than likely hang myself in my barn.,

Really depressed right now..............picked the wrong time of the month to stop sniffing glue LOL  ;D

Anyway,this is the first time in eons whereI truly feel like buying a few cases of Bud and a quauart of Tequila.

But I`ll ride it out like a man...........if I do have it,I lived an interesting life if nothing else.

Go do the Test, the uncertainty will rip you inside, Man
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Dave D on September 26, 2019, 11:05:11 AM
Did I? Ask Pellius for the message. I said that I would, with conditions. But, if you prefer to lie or pretend another thing, its up 2 you

  ::)

I bet. Rewrite history Shizzo. You called out Pellius and then you chickened out.

Now you're acting like you're a tough guy offering advice on internet fights?  

That said:
Good luck Wes.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Taffin on September 26, 2019, 11:05:30 AM
Well,I wasn`t gonna discuss it on here right away,but the doc says I may have lung cancer.

Asked me to go for a test which I refused to do.

With my anxiety issues if I knew I had it,I`d more than likely hang myself in my barn.,

Really depressed right now..............picked the wrong time of the month to stop sniffing glue LOL  ;D

Anyway,this is the first time in eons whereI truly feel like buying a few cases of Bud and a quauart of Tequila.

But I`ll ride it out like a man...........if I do have it,I lived an interesting life if nothing else.


I am SO sorry to hear that brother - it only feels like  minutes ago you were screaming FUCKFACE!!!!!!!11111 at me

Stay strong (and maybe when you've had chance to reflect/think on it a bit, please reconsider taking the test again - modern endoscopes are much smaller gauge nowadays than they were in the past)


Very Best Wishes
Taf
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: dan18 on September 26, 2019, 11:06:21 AM
Well,I wasn`t gonna discuss it on here right away,but the doc says I may have lung cancer.

Asked me to go for a test which I refused to do.

With my anxiety issues if I knew I had it,I`d more than likely hang myself in my barn.,

Really depressed right now..............picked the wrong time of the month to stop sniffing glue LOL  ;D

Anyway,this is the first time in eons whereI truly feel like buying a few cases of Bud and a quauart of Tequila.

But I`ll ride it out like a man...........if I do have it,I lived an interesting life if nothing else.
Treatable if you catch and treat early but lung and colon are at the top of the list as worst my prayers are with you for what its worth.
don't ignore it like you said man up fight it millions of women fight it every year SO MAN UP FIGHT BACK PUSSY... >:( ;D
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 26, 2019, 11:07:09 AM
 ::)

I bet. Rewrite history Shizzo. You called out Pellius and then you chickened out.

Now you're acting like you're a tough guy offering advice on internet fights?  

That said:
Good luck Wes.

I called him out on his story, yes, but never chickened out. I dont know why you feel the need to restart a squashed beef, so you can get entertained.

Well, its Get Big, so...
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 11:16:58 AM
Thanks for all the kind words and well wishes guys........it means more to me than you could imagine.

Depressed right now but I`ll get my balls out of the sand and do the test..

I quit on myself all of my life until I found bodybuilding..........I don`t quit anymore..........just shocked and depressed and very uncertain of my future.

Thanks again guys,you`really a great bunch of great and  caring people.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Rascal full on September 26, 2019, 11:17:23 AM
Well,I wasn`t gonna discuss it on here right away,but the doc says I may have lung cancer.

Asked me to go for a test which I refused to do.

With my anxiety issues if I knew I had it,I`d more than likely hang myself in my barn.,

Really depressed right now..............picked the wrong time of the month to stop sniffing glue LOL  ;D

Anyway,this is the first time in eons whereI truly feel like buying a few cases of Bud and a quauart of Tequila.

But I`ll ride it out like a man...........if I do have it,I lived an interesting life if nothing else.

Sorry to hear this Wes but don't lose hope. There are lots of really good treatments available now, things have moved on so much medically. Praying that you don't have it mate but if you do you will get through it.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 11:18:46 AM
Crying right now and not ashamed to admit so I`ll report more later when and If I feel better.

Thanks much.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 11:23:17 AM
Forgot to add,please don`t include me in he dead pool !
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 11:33:34 AM
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Henda on September 26, 2019, 11:37:58 AM
Really sad and sorry to read this mate please go and get the test finding early can mean years of life mate, my mates mother was diagnosed with lung cancer and given 5 years but it’s now gone ten years with no progression of her illness. By contrast my dad put off and hid his symptoms for years and lived only 5 weeks from he finally got diagnosis. Really hope the best for you mate and hopefully get sorted
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 11:46:18 AM
Really sad and sorry to read this mate please go and get the test finding early can mean years of life mate, my mates mother was diagnosed with lung cancer and given 5 years but it’s now gone ten years with no progression of her illness. By contrast my dad put off and hid his symptoms for years and lived only 5 weeks from he finally got diagnosis. Really hope the best for you mate and hopefully get sorted
\
Henda,I know this is what I``ll end u\p doing,it`s  just it`s just the initial shock seting ion.

You`real good dude bud and thank you very much for the concern................. .proud to call you a friend mate.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 11:56:08 AM
Joe has the ability to school him!  He knows his stuff!



So Ron is back to posting.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 11:57:24 AM
Hi getbig. My name is Barry and I have been friends with Tim (Wes on here) for around 45 years. We are both old veterans of the iron and have seen our fair share of issues in life. I made this account so I could address this EFS guy who Tim gets mad about. I read all of the posts from ESF to Wes and really believe the guy is full of shit. Tim has lived a hard life and from what I read all that other guy has lived is a world or lies. Tim just isnt the kind of guy to back down from anyone, he's the toughest son of a bitch Ive ever known.

Tim isn't wealthy, and neither am I. I threw it to Tim that we should fly down to where this ESF lives and have a face to face with him. Tim loved the idea cause we are both old and may as well, only one life to live.I will pay my own way and all accomodations but Tim needs some financial help with his end. I was hoping  his friends on here might want to throw a few bucks into a pool and get him a plane ticket to California. We would go for sure, it would be a hell of a time and a great story for here.

Tim (Wes) will let you know here that I am who I say I am and we will go for it if this trip happens. Lets have some fun Tim

Hi Wes

Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 11:59:33 AM
Forgot to add,please don`t include me in he dead pool !

*Added to 2020 Deadpool*
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: dan18 on September 26, 2019, 12:02:31 PM
*Added to 2020 Deadpool*
ASSHOLE he wont make it until 2020 man you can really be a jerk
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Primemuscle on September 26, 2019, 12:03:50 PM
Wes, I like you but this is the worst idea ever. I've often suspected that a board feud would spill over into the real world someday and someone would end up doing time over it. I'd hate for it to be you.

You're documenting your intention to go confront a guy that you have bad blood with. This is un-smart, my friend.

And if you're just boiling and don't care, take a minute and look around. We've got anything we want to eat, drink, or do. Open sky above, wonderful world all around. There are beautiful women to see, and some you even get to fuck. Compare that to being in jail. We're living in paradise. All you have to do is not fuck it up.

You've offered Wes very sound advice. Even if a confrontation didn't result in more than a couple of punches or bitch slaps, it is not worth it. ESF is not worth it. As you pointed out, there are so many joys in life. It is best to focus on these positive things and let negative thoughts go.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 12:24:26 PM
*Added to 2020 Deadpool*
Thanx you raist piece of shit!
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Primemuscle on September 26, 2019, 12:32:47 PM
Well,I wasn`t gonna discuss it on here right away,but the doc says I may have lung cancer.

Asked me to go for a test which I refused to do.

With my anxiety issues if I knew I had it,I`d more than likely hang myself in my barn.,

Really depressed right now..............picked the wrong time of the month to stop sniffing glue LOL  ;D

Anyway,this is the first time in eons whereI truly feel like buying a few cases of Bud and a quauart of Tequila.

But I`ll ride it out like a man...........if I do have it,I lived an interesting life if nothing else.

This sucks! Stay positive. Stay sober. Get the test.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 12:37:49 PM
ASSHOLE he wont make it until 2020 man you can really be a jerk

Relax big head. I was diagnosed with a deadly liver disease 5 years. You don't see me on here crying.
Thanx you raist piece of shit!

 :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on September 26, 2019, 12:39:11 PM
Oh shit !!! Ron sounded off - mic drop.

Ummm - I’m kind of old so I don’t know if mic drop applies here but I heard my nephew say it and I’m trying to sound cool.  ;D.  School me if I used it wrong - honestly I am not sure

Maybe this will help,

Mic drop:
Used to emphasize that a discussion is at an end after a definitive or particularly impressive point has been made.
"Nuff said. Mic drop!"

Looks like you have kept your 'cool' status.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: joswift on September 26, 2019, 12:40:19 PM
Relax big head. I was diagnosed with a deadly liver disease 5 years. You don't see me on here crying.
 :)

you just mentioned it now...whats wrong, feeling left out?
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 12:40:33 PM
This sucks! Stay positive. Stay sober. Get the test.
Thnks Primr,I1l do nall of the above!
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 12:43:43 PM
you just mentioned it now...whats wrong, feeling left out?

Nope, we're all going to die.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: dan18 on September 26, 2019, 12:44:28 PM
Relax big head. I was diagnosed with a deadly liver disease 5 years. You don't see me on here crying.
 :)
we all grieve and get through things in our own way so let him get it out better that doing something stupid. lung cancer is 1 on the worst cancers to have... and yes im big all over even my 5 head and im sure I pull and have pulled more pussy than you have ever spanked off too.



And I hope your better today
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: mazrim on September 26, 2019, 12:44:34 PM
Hope for the best for you. Been a good guy on the forums that I've been on.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 01:06:50 PM
Hope for the best for you. Been a good guy on the forums that I've been on.
Thanks Maxrim..............you too buduy,
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 03:22:55 PM
Relax big head. I was diagnosed with a deadly liver disease 5 years. You don't see me on here crying.
 :)
I`ve got Heparitus B...............sorry for your heath problems but if I knew where you were located,you`d get ball batted Springfield Ma. style then you`d have more health problems.

I`m never a racist,you can check my posts, but you`re a n igger piece of shit.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 26, 2019, 03:28:09 PM
Crying right now and not ashamed to admit so I`ll report more later when and If I feel better.

Thanks much.

Fuck man! This is some bullshit - I finally make friends with a human and you go and get sick????

Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 03:30:17 PM
Fuck man! This is some bullshit - I finally make friends with a human and you go and get sick????


I`m a tough old bird bro...............I`m not letting this beat me easy

Thanks bud !   
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Taffin on September 26, 2019, 03:36:17 PM

Thanks again guys,you`really a great bunch of great and  caring people.



Ixnay dude - Ixnay!  Don't let the other boards know...

(https://i.postimg.cc/59DWjdds/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Royalty on September 26, 2019, 03:40:08 PM
ESF has probably been scared shitless all day. This thread was not what he expected to see
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: WalterWhite on September 26, 2019, 04:01:53 PM
Crying right now and not ashamed to admit so I`ll report more later when and If I feel better.

Thanks much.

Hey bro keep your head up!  What led your doc to this conclusion? Does he want you to have a CT or biopsy?  Lot's of false positives with CT's.

So could be negative and if it's not you will kick it's ass!

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 04:49:37 PM

Ixnay dude - Ixnay!  Don't let the other boards know...

(https://i.postimg.cc/59DWjdds/giphy.gif)
You funny bastrd!!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 04:52:35 PM
Hey bro keep your head up!  What led your doc to this conclusion? Does he want you to have a CT or biopsy?  Lot's of false positives with CT's.

So could be negative and if it's not you will kick it's ass!


Kind of a long story regrding my mispent youth,but thanks brother................a fter mulling it over,I`m gonna` get it done.

Thanks for your concern my friend.

Tim/wes
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 05:18:55 PM
I`ve got Heparitus B...............sorry for your heath problems but if I knew where you were located,you`d get ball batted Springfield Ma. style then you`d have more health problems.

I`m never a racist,you can check my posts, but you`re a n igger piece of shit.

Sure you would tough guy ::)

N igger piece of shit? I've never use that type of language on here. Sounds racist to me, but on a serious note I was diagnosed with Hep B also but it progressed to Cirrhosis. I might need a liver transplant. Hopefully your hbv is acute and not chronic. If its chronic(like mine was) taking meds is going to be hell. You won't be able to lift weights due to bone pain and headache from meds like baraclude,
tdf,or taf. Unless you're retired working a normal job is not possible. Although its no cure for hbv, taking meds will likely keep it und. My illness progressed to Cirrhosis because I stop taking meds because of my Crohns disease which was a mistake. I suggest you read sites like medhelp for information. Just because you think your life is bad someone else is 10 times worst.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 05:28:24 PM
I just seen your pm. Seriously
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2019, 05:38:11 PM
we all grieve and get through things in our own way so let him get it out better that doing something stupid. lung cancer is 1 on the worst cancers to have... and yes im big all over even my 5 head and im sure I pull and have pulled more pussy than you have ever spanked off too.



And I hope your better today



He's healthier than me and most likely will live longer. Dude is now threatening to kill me in pms.

If I ever find out who your scary ass is.I`ll kill you.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: J. Richards on September 26, 2019, 06:00:36 PM
PET scan... if they still do that.....  hopefully it's all negative.... if it isn't... hope it's not non small cell....  if you do get unfortunate news.... stay positive... research treatments/chemo..... kick it's ass.... 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 26, 2019, 06:44:43 PM


He's healthier than me and most likely will live longer. Dude is now threatening to kill me in pms.

I
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: beakdoctor on September 26, 2019, 07:13:37 PM
ESF has probably been scared shitless all day. This thread was not what he expected to see

I doubt it. This thread jumped the shark a long time ago and honestly it reads like one big circle jerk of guys who can't shout loud enough how tough they are. Truly tough men dont ever have to announce it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 26, 2019, 08:02:29 PM
Eric just kicks back and bangs dope until he is out of his skull and hopes the thread dies off.
The loser doesn’t take care of his kids or help out the nasty little skank baby mammas.
Just an unproductive drain on society. We have to pay for his numerous prison stays (hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars) and I am sure he doesn’t have adequate (if any) medical insurance - so those hospital stays are taxpayer funded as well. Drug dealing doesn’t come with benefits - especially when you make the shit you sell in your kitchen. How nasty is that to make them in a totally unsanitary (certainly not sterile) environment?
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Dave D on September 26, 2019, 08:35:09 PM
I doubt it. This thread jumped the shark a long time ago and honestly it reads like one big circle jerk of guys who can't shout loud enough how tough they are. Truly tough men dont ever have to announce it.

Post your location tough guy!
Title: ESF - Bad Mother Fucker Thread!
Post by: AbrahamG on September 26, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Post your location tough guy!

@Dave D - are there things?  You seem filled with rage today.  Out of character. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 27, 2019, 01:28:08 AM
Eric just kicks back and bangs dope until he is out of his skull and hopes the thread dies off.
The loser doesn’t take care of his kids or help out the nasty little skank baby mammas.
Just an unproductive drain on society. We have to pay for his numerous prison stays (hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars) and I am sure he doesn’t have adequate (if any) medical insurance - so those hospital stays are taxpayer funded as well. Drug dealing doesn’t come with benefits - especially when you make the shit you sell in your kitchen. How nasty is that to make them in a totally unsanitary (certainly not sterile) environment?

"Lol @"kicks back and bangs dops. Hahahahaha

Your imagination is filled with what you wish I was doing. For the life of me I can't come up with one single thing and it hurts you to your car that you are a nobody to a bunch of nobodies or an internet message forum
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: beakdoctor on September 27, 2019, 05:20:48 AM
Post your location tough guy!

SIGN THE WAIVER!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 27, 2019, 06:01:21 AM
Damn.

Wes, youre being trolled to the max. Eric ESF is here laughing his ass off.

Dude, go take care of your illness. Everyone in here is seeing ESF mindgame, and its working.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 27, 2019, 06:04:16 AM
Damn.

Wes, youre being trolled to the max. Eric ESF is here laughing his ass off.

Dude, go take care of your illness. Everyone in here is seeing ESF mindgame, and its working.



I was convinced at one point he was trolling, but no, he really is that stupid..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 27, 2019, 06:07:54 AM
I was convinced at one point he was trolling, but no, he really is that stupid..

Eric ESF is trolling. He is just a wild little insane cat, but he is definitely smart.

Wes is allegedly so pissed that is even saying things like 'killing' another poster.

Over what? A discussion on gear, drugs and past choices!? LOL

Insanity to the max on this thread!!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 27, 2019, 06:08:58 AM
Eric ESF is trolling. He is just a wild little insane cat, but he is definitely smart.

Wes is allegedly so pissed that is even saying things like 'killing' another poster.

Over what? A discussion on gear, drugs and past choices!? LOL

Insanity to the max on this thread!!
No, he really isnt......

Trolling is about getting teh biggest rise with the least amount of effort..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: beakdoctor on September 27, 2019, 06:09:56 AM
Eric ESF is trolling. He is just a wild little insane cat, but he is definitely smart.

Wes is allegedly so pissed that is even saying things like 'killing' another poster.

Over what? A discussion on gear, drugs and past choices!? LOL

Insanity to the max on this thread!!

X2.. it's so obvious its pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 27, 2019, 06:12:53 AM
No, he really isnt......

Trolling is about getting teh biggest rise with the least amount of effort..

In a few hours or minutes, he will post another long comment, thats what Im saying, one of his stories about former friends doing G4P in exchange of Coke, Test or Heroin or God knows what, and he will continue his day normally.

Wes is the one butthurt, for no reason.  Dude ESF is not Bezos or a multimillionaire.  Seriously concerned about his stories will get Wes dead sooner than later.

Its just words on a forum....
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: sarcafago on September 27, 2019, 07:05:14 AM
I`ve got Heparitus B...............sorry for your heath problems but if I knew where you were located,you`d get ball batted Springfield Ma. style then you`d have more health problems.

I`m never a racist,you can check my posts, but you`re a n igger piece of shit.

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Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 27, 2019, 08:30:38 AM
In a few hours or minutes, he will post another long comment, thats what Im saying, one of his stories about former friends doing G4P in exchange of Coke, Test or Heroin or God knows what, and he will continue his day normally.

Wes is the one butthurt, for no reason.  Dude ESF is not Bezos or a multimillionaire.  Seriously concerned about his stories will get Wes dead sooner than later.

Its just words on a forum....

now its you whos trolling, go read the exchanges, he reacts with long winded explanations to everything he posts, trolls are subtle, one line posts, misquotes of what people have said, passive aggressive undertones.... guy does none of that, he invests way too much of himself into it
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Rascal full on September 27, 2019, 09:23:20 AM
Someone just died in my town of a heroin overdose. To put things in perspective he injected and died from a shot that was 1/10 to 1/15th of the size ESF claims he regularly didn't feel.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 27, 2019, 09:25:07 AM
Someone just died in my town of a heroin overdose. To put things in perspective he injected and died from a shot that was 1/10 to 1/15th of the size ESF claims he regularly didn't feel.
Fingers crossed you live in the same town as ESFitness.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Rascal full on September 27, 2019, 09:33:17 AM
Fingers crossed you live in the same town as ESFitness.


Haha I am in England sorry to disappoint you! I can only think that ESF was buying bunk gear as 1.5g shots of good or even normal gear is dicing with death. Saying he didn't even feel it or nod is total nonsense to anyone that knows the effects of heroin, etc. 30 year junkies with massive tolerances aren't doing anything like that and they are smashed out of their face all day! I have seen this shit first hand unfortunately, I had a bad car accident and got addicted to painkillers during recovery. This lead to other opiates so unfortunately I know what I am talking about here.
Title: Re: Wes' Friend
Post by: Primemuscle on September 27, 2019, 09:33:55 AM
I doubt it. This thread jumped the shark a long time ago and honestly it reads like one big circle jerk of guys who can't shout loud enough how tough they are. Truly tough men dont ever have to announce it.

I think confident men are often thought of as the strong silent type. Like in 'still waters run deep'.  Women love this and men fear it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 27, 2019, 09:48:05 AM
now its you whos trolling, go read the exchanges, he reacts with long winded explanations to everything he posts, trolls are subtle, one line posts, misquotes of what people have said, passive aggressive undertones.... guy does none of that, he invests way too much of himself into it


Thats what Im saying, its always ESF with long posts, rants, and stories about the past involving people in shady situations..

Wes, himself, 'confessed' he gets mad without any reason, cause its just stories
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 27, 2019, 09:54:01 AM
Thats what Im saying, its always ESF with long posts, rants, and stories about the past involving people in shady situations..

Wes, himself, 'confessed' he gets mad without any reason, cause its just stories

the fact wes gets made doesnt mean that ESF is trolling, you have to have a strategy to troll, you need to work out what gets people to bite, going over someones post history is always good because people tend to contradict themselves, its nice to quote an old post just to counter what they claim now, always gets people going.

Eric is way too dumb and lacks social awareness to work anything like that out.

He really believes what he writes, and all teh detail gives it away, see when you remember something to dont remember the actual event, you recall the last time you remembered it and if you embellished it then you will tell the same story again, why do you think cops interview people as close to the event as possible..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 27, 2019, 10:00:15 AM
the fact wes gets made doesnt mean that ESF is trolling, you have to have a strategy to troll, you need to work out what gets people to bite, going over someones post history is always good because people tend to contradict themselves, its nice to quote an old post just to counter what they claim now, always gets people going.

Eric is way too dumb and lacks social awareness to work anything like that out.

He really believes what he writes, and all teh detail gives it away, see when you remember something to dont remember the actual event, you recall the last time you remembered it and if you embellished it then you will tell the same story again, why do you think cops interview people as close to the event as possible..

Eric dosent seem to care about his past. He tells his wrongdoings, association with subhuman people and the mistakes that he made in the past.
He prolly laugh at the end of the day of Wes being so serious about it. He likes the show off process and the limelight.

You have to remember that Wes is 65, Man, its a good run thus far. If he has Cancer life will be not long, so he should go for Road Trips, concerts, do things he never done in his life, and stay away from here, and live the real life outside...

Eric has a way with words, and gets on his mind, otherwise Wes will just ignore the whole thing.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on September 27, 2019, 10:00:26 AM
the fact wes gets made doesnt mean that ESF is trolling, you have to have a strategy to troll, you need to work out what gets people to bite, going over someones post history is always good because people tend to contradict themselves, its nice to quote an old post just to counter what they claim now, always gets people going.

Eric is way too dumb and lacks social awareness to work anything like that out.

He really believes what he writes, and all teh detail gives it away, see when you remember something to dont remember the actual event, you recall the last time you remembered it and if you embellished it then you will tell the same story again, why do you think cops interview people as close to the event as possible..

Researching someone's past posts in hopes of tripping them up seems like stalking them. Anyone who takes Internet social media that seriously, needs to take a break and go do something tangible, like get a job or take your girlfriend out to dinner.  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 27, 2019, 10:03:08 AM
Researching someone's past posts in hopes of tripping them up seems like stalking them. Anyone who takes Internet social media that seriously, needs to take a break and go do something tangible, like get a job or take your girlfriend out to dinner.  :)
says the guy who is on his last legs and still posting on here since 2004, maybe its you who needs to log off and find something to in the twighlight of your life
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Royalty on September 27, 2019, 10:17:08 AM
says the guy who is on his last legs and still posting on here since 2004, maybe its you who needs to log off and find something to in the twighlight of your life

The real ESF would never be reduced to arguing about “age”


This account was hacked by Joon a long time ago.


Why do you think that we all had to change our passwords a 1 or 2 years ago?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 27, 2019, 10:18:35 AM
One for the record,I do not get mad at ESF..................I am appalled that you idiots believe his fiction.

This is what pisses me off.

The guy is full of shit and you take his incohernt ramblings as fucking gospel.

FOOLS!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 27, 2019, 10:24:47 AM
The real ESF would never be reduced to arguing about “age”


This account was hacked by Joon a long time ago.


Why do you think that we all had to change our passwords a 1 or 2 years ago?

Joon isnt on here anymore, hes long gone
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 27, 2019, 10:29:59 AM
Joon isnt on here anymore, hes long gone

Great paralell!  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 27, 2019, 10:32:19 AM
Did ESF troll me here and have posts deleted or some shit?

If so or if not.............he can still suck a big bag of dicks.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: tommywishbone on September 27, 2019, 10:33:09 AM
Any updates I should be made aware of?  Any radical new claims or earth shaking revelations?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 27, 2019, 10:57:40 AM
Any updates I should be made aware of?  Any radical new claims or earth shaking revelations?
You know Tom,when the doc gave me my paperwok,I put it in my pocket and never even looked at it................still haven`t.

All the best and keep pounding those big weights brother.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 27, 2019, 09:46:37 PM
Eric dosent seem to care about his past. He tells his wrongdoings, association with subhuman people and the mistakes that he made in the past.
He prolly laugh at the end of the day of Wes being so serious about it. He likes the show off process and the limelight.

You have to remember that Wes is 65, Man, its a good run thus far. If he has Cancer life will be not long, so he should go for Road Trips, concerts, do things he never done in his life, and stay away from here, and live the real life outside...

Eric has a way with words, and gets on his mind, otherwise Wes will just ignore the whole thing.





Finally someone who "gets it".
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 27, 2019, 10:13:31 PM


Finally someone who "gets it".
I ain`t dead yet and you two goons can go fuck your rselves.

I have a life off this board  and I go outside,and I`m a married man,I have dogs  and tropical fish,I read,etc.etc,

I also know 2 assholes when I see them and I truly know a 120K heroin junkie liar when it`s as plain s day.

Good day fucknuckles............. ..don`t write me off yet.
Title: Hey ESF
Post by: wes on September 27, 2019, 10:19:57 PM
I`m calling you out you peice of shit.

I may just take a flight out to beautiful San Diego to disrespect you to your face...........since you don`t like disrespect

'After all you already got me dead sop I can play Val Kilmer in Tombstone on your ass with nothing to lose

You`re a chronic liar and chronic masterbator.
Title: Re: Hey ESF
Post by: AbrahamG on September 27, 2019, 10:43:30 PM
I`m calling you out you peice of shit.

I may just take a flight out to beautiful San Diego to disrespect you to your face...........since you don`t like disrespect

'After all you already got me dead sop I can play Val Kilmer in Tombstone on your ass with nothing to lose

You`re a chronic liar and chronic masterbator.

I think you meant peace.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 27, 2019, 10:51:36 PM
Anyone who thinks Eric is intelligent or “has a way with word” is mistaken. OF COURSE this is just stupid time and no one takes it really serious. I deal with serious shit all freaking day and weekends when I am speaking - so coming here is just for nonsense. Picking on Eric is like antagonizing the monkeys at the zoo.(although that shit is cruel and would piss me off).
I generally don’t pick on the lower class - but I feel like Eric invited this upon himself. The guy is a dead beat dad and has wasted his life. If he were humble and asked for help or even just stayed in his place and was quiet - I would never screw with him and in fact I’d even help him. I LOVE seeing people succeed and better themselves - it’s one of the things that makes me happiest. Even now - I don’t at all wish Eric anything negative. It would be cool as hell to see him lift himself up and become somebody.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 27, 2019, 10:58:21 PM
Anyone who thinks Eric is intelligent or “has a way with word” is mistaken. OF COURSE this is just stupid time and no one takes it really serious. I deal with serious shit all freaking day and weekends when I am speaking - so coming here is just for nonsense. Picking on Eric is like antagonizing the monkeys at the zoo.(although that shit is cruel and would piss me off).
I generally don’t pick on the lower class - but I feel like Eric invited this upon himself. The guy is a dead beat dad and has wasted his life. If he were humble and asked for help or even just stayed in his place and was quiet - I would never screw with him and in fact I’d even help him. I LOVE seeing people succeed and better themselves - it’s one of the things that makes me happiest. Even now - I don’t at all wish Eric anything negative. It would be cool as hell to see him lift himself up and become somebody.


Boy,what a pipe dream that is bro.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on September 28, 2019, 01:26:43 AM
Anyone who thinks Eric is intelligent or “has a way with word” is mistaken. OF COURSE this is just stupid time and no one takes it really serious. I deal with serious shit all freaking day and weekends when I am speaking - so coming here is just for nonsense. Picking on Eric is like antagonizing the monkeys at the zoo.(although that shit is cruel and would piss me off).
I generally don’t pick on the lower class - but I feel like Eric invited this upon himself. The guy is a dead beat dad and has wasted his life. If he were humble and asked for help or even just stayed in his place and was quiet - I would never screw with him and in fact I’d even help him. I LOVE seeing people succeed and better themselves - it’s one of the things that makes me happiest. Even now - I don’t at all wish Eric anything negative. It would be cool as hell to see him lift himself up and become somebody.



Improve Himself !!

He comes across as a Bottom Feeder
And he’s happy lurking & eating at the bottom of the pond
Amongst all the Crap & Shit down there.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2019, 02:07:03 AM
Improve Himself !!

He comes across as a Bottom Feeder
And he’s happy lurking & eating at the bottom of the pond
Amongst all the Crap & Shit down there.



Who wants to be a tiny fish in the big sea, when you can be a Megalodon in the pond?

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 04:31:47 AM
I ain`t dead yet and you two goons can go fuck your rselves.

I have a life off this board  and I go outside,and I`m a married man,I have dogs  and tropical fish,I read,etc.etc,

I also know 2 assholes when I see them and I truly know a 120K heroin junkie liar when it`s as plain s day.

Good day fucknuckles............. ..don`t write me off yet.

What do you mean, 2 assholes? Im saying that, if you have Cancer, you should do things you never done it before, enjoying life and staying away from a board that get you mad, anything wrong with that??

Im not dissing or trolling you, Wes, camon Man, dont be a dick. Im not writing you off
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 04:36:39 AM
Anyone who thinks Eric is intelligent or “has a way with word” is mistaken. OF COURSE this is just stupid time and no one takes it really serious. I deal with serious shit all freaking day and weekends when I am speaking - so coming here is just for nonsense. Picking on Eric is like antagonizing the monkeys at the zoo.(although that shit is cruel and would piss me off).
I generally don’t pick on the lower class - but I feel like Eric invited this upon himself. The guy is a dead beat dad and has wasted his life. If he were humble and asked for help or even just stayed in his place and was quiet - I would never screw with him and in fact I’d even help him. I LOVE seeing people succeed and better themselves - it’s one of the things that makes me happiest. Even now - I don’t at all wish Eric anything negative. It would be cool as hell to see him lift himself up and become somebody.



This should be just stupid time, youre right. What Im saying is that Wes is really mad at a guy that writes long posts in here, and thats it at the end of the day. Eric, on the other hand, dosent give a shit, quite the contrary, he enjoys and have a kick getting on Wes mind, itherwise Wes would read and think: "Oh, ok, its just words and stories on a board..."
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2019, 04:56:46 AM
This should be just stupid time, youre right. What Im saying is that Wes is really mad at a guy that writes long posts in here, and thats it at the end of the day. Eric, on the other hand, dosent give a shit, quite the contrary, he enjoys and have a kick getting on Wes mind, itherwise Wes would read and think: "Oh, ok, its just words and stories on a board..."

What planet are you on, he gives a shit more than anyone who has ever been on this board, why do you think he keeps trying to validate all his bullshit?

He is mentally ill in the fcat he has to keep telling himself hes relevant and important.
The fact you dont get that means you are trolling are are as oblivious to reality as he is.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 28, 2019, 07:00:49 AM
Any updates I should be made aware of?  Any radical new claims or earth shaking revelations?

I'm waiting for his claims of being an MS-13 captain and trainer of professional ballet dancers.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 07:28:50 AM
What planet are you on, he gives a shit more than anyone who has ever been on this board, why do you think he keeps trying to validate all his bullshit?

He is mentally ill in the fcat he has to keep telling himself hes relevant and important.
The fact you dont get that means you are trolling are are as oblivious to reality as he is.

He knows hes not relevant and important. Do you really think anyone in a sane mind would have kids and not take care of them?

Its a mix of a mind game and a guy that likes to play around his tales, simple as that.

People overthink Eric. A guy that likes to write stories in here and in Real life is a proud fucked up broken Guy

Who am I to judge him or judge Wes or anybody in here?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 08:18:44 AM
He knows hes not relevant and important. Do you really think anyone in a sane mind would have kids and not take care of them?

Its a mix of a mind game and a guy that likes to play around his tales, simple as that.

People overthink Eric. A guy that likes to write stories in here and in Real life is a proud fucked up broken Guy

Who am I to judge him or judge Wes or anybody in here?

Shizzo you ask who are high to judge anyone here but you've done plenty of judging, you're telling Wes how he shouldnt be online, remember when you followed coach around questioning his life choices in regards to bodybuilding?

You say you cant judge ESF because you see yourself in his life choices.

You tell Wes to go live life and stay off the board, but you faked your own death on here for attention and you keep coming back here despite having no interest in living a healthy lifestyle.

You're a simpleton who trys to portray an intellectual.

You should stay oft the board.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 08:22:08 AM
Shizzo you ask who are high to judge anyone here but you've done plenty of judging, you're telling Wes how he shouldnt be online, remember when you followed coach around questioning his life choices in regards to bodybuilding?

You say you cant judge ESF because you see yourself in his life choices.

You tell Wes to go live life and stay off the board, but you faked your own death on here for attention and you keep coming back here despite having no interest in living a healthy lifestyle.

You're a simpleton who trys to portray an intellectual.

You should stay oft the board.

First of all, Im not Shizzo. So, unless you deal and accept that, because you either have a crush on him or jealousy of a guy that I never met in my life, youre the one that should stay away, simpleton.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 08:25:00 AM
Second of all, I dont have Kids, so strike 2, you are wrong again.

You and some other people in here keep insisting in believing I am somebody that Im not.

Get it straight:  Im Not Shizzo or ever faked death or even illness in order to get Pity from strangers on a board.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 08:26:02 AM


Learn how to use the qoute feature. Dope.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 08:27:33 AM
Second of all, I dont have Kids, so strike 2, you are wrong again.

You and some other people in here keep insisting in believing I am somebody that Im not.

Get it straight:  Im Not Shizzo or ever faked death or even illness in order to get Pity from strangers on a board.

What are you talking about? Who said you have kids?

You have trouble with staying on topic.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 08:31:46 AM
What are you talking about? Who said you have kids?

You have trouble with staying on topic.

You mentioned Eric's life choices.

1- Never been to Prison.

2- Never sold Gear.

3- Dont have kids, so cant be blamed on bad Parenthood. Need to go on with the comparison?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 08:45:17 AM
You mentioned Eric's life choices.

1- Never been to Prison.

2- Never sold Gear.

3- Dont have kids, so cant be blamed on bad Parenthood. Need to go on with the comparison?

You are dense.

Remember who are you to judge anyone here, UNLESS you disagree or dislike them then you are the judge.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 08:48:20 AM
You are dense.

Remember who are you to judge anyone here, UNLESS you disagree or dislike them then you are the judge.

Most of my positions are the same, btw.

1- Anti Guns

2- Anti- Abortion

3- Definitely Anti- Christianity.

4- Center- Left.

I know bothers a lot of people, but not even Jesus pleased anyone, right? lol
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 08:53:37 AM
Most of my positions are the same, btw.

1- Anti Guns

2- Anti- Abortion

3- Definitely Anti- Christianity.

4- Center- Left.

I know bothers a lot of people, but not even Jesus pleased anyone, right? lol

Jesus was so beloved that he was crucified. So im not sure what you're insinuating.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 09:02:06 AM
Jesus was so beloved that he was crucified. So im not sure what you're insinuating.

Jesus was so beloved that he was crucified. So im not sure what you're insinuating"

Dig that funny joke :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chaos on September 28, 2019, 09:07:55 AM
Most of my positions are the same, btw.

1- Anti Guns


Queer
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 09:09:52 AM
Queer

Not really.

Last, but definitely not least, Anti- Faggotry.  I respect them, but disagree with their convictions.

So, if youre a Gun lover and a Fag, its not good at all...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2019, 10:00:13 AM
Most of my positions are the same, btw.

1- Anti Guns

2- Anti- Abortion

3- Definitely Anti- Christianity.

4- Center- Left.

I know bothers a lot of people, but not even Jesus pleased anyone, right? lol

you reek of Shizzo...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 10:08:30 AM
you reek of Shizzo...

Ironic that two completely different dudes from Florida, a right wing state, who have never met, have the same political leanings and post on an now obscure bodybuilding board.


Also odd Joe V will post here while drunk, another trait of Shizzo's.

These two would be best friends if they ever met!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2019, 10:12:58 AM
Ironic that two completely different dudes from Florida, a right wing state, who have never met, have the same political leanings and post on an now obscure bodybuilding board.


Also odd Joe V will post here while drunk, another trait of Shizzo's.

These two would be best friends if they ever met!

Im pretty sure they have never been in the same room together...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 10:21:02 AM
Ironic that two completely different dudes from Florida, a right wing state, who have never met, have the same political leanings and post on an now obscure bodybuilding board.


Also odd Joe V will post here while drunk, another trait of Shizzo's.

These two would be best friends if they ever met!

Dude, Florida is a big State with Millions of People, were not talking a Dead Town...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 10:21:11 AM
Is Joe the same guy as that Shizzo dude? That guy was pretty delusional too wasn’t he? Didn’t he post a terrible pic and state that he actually had a hint of abs?
I obviously don’t know the guy and I am not hacking on you Joe - but please explain to me what brings you to a site that’s BB themed? I don’t get that at all? I mean if you actually DO aspire to be in shape - why don’t you just do it? It’s SUPER easy to get and stay at least lean enough for all abs to be clear all of the time. Even if you have bad shape and / or difficulty building muscle - EVERYONE can be lean.
I know this kind of got off topic - and like I said it’s not meant to bash you. Just please explain if you can - I am genuinely curious.  
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 10:23:31 AM
Is Joe the same guy as that Shizzo dude? That guy was pretty delusional too wasn’t he? Didn’t he post a terrible pic and state that he actually had a hint of abs?
I obviously don’t know the guy and I am not hacking on you Joe - but please explain to me what brings you to a site that’s BB themed? I don’t get that at all? I mean if you actually DO aspire to be in shape - why don’t you just do it? It’s SUPER easy to get and stay at least lean enough for all abs to be clear all of the time. Even if you have bad shape and / or difficulty building muscle - EVERYONE can be lean.
I know this kind of got off topic - and like I said it’s not meant to bash you. Just please explain if you can - I am genuinely curious.  

Well, theres definitely answers to your question, Marvin, there are..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 10:29:12 AM
I never claimed to be a Bodybuilder. Actually, one late Uncle was into heavy training, and he gave me a Flex Magazine, on the 90s.

And then, unfortunately, I got sort of hooked. But, I gotta say that I prefer Skateboarding.

I never met Shizzo, and wouldn't have a problem meeting the Guy.

Yes, I posted  intoxicated in here a few times, not proud at all.

I had abs growing up. Im not that fat. I mean 20-22% BF.

As far as I know, Shizzo is a Republican, even read he supporting Trump or something..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 10:31:45 AM
Is Joe the same guy as that Shizzo dude? That guy was pretty delusional too wasn’t he? Didn’t he post a terrible pic and state that he actually had a hint of abs?
I obviously don’t know the guy and I am not hacking on you Joe - but please explain to me what brings you to a site that’s BB themed? I don’t get that at all? I mean if you actually DO aspire to be in shape - why don’t you just do it? It’s SUPER easy to get and stay at least lean enough for all abs to be clear all of the time. Even if you have bad shape and / or difficulty building muscle - EVERYONE can be lean.
I know this kind of got off topic - and like I said it’s not meant to bash you. Just please explain if you can - I am genuinely curious.  

Its not easy to stay lean when you eat a lot of sugar and fat every day. When youre younger, is easy cause metabolism is rocking, but after a certain age...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 11:07:34 AM
Dude, Florida is a big State with Millions of People, were not talking a Dead Town...

Getbig is a bodybuilding forum with 100's of members, years removed from its peak.

Oddly there are two posters from that number that have similar posting styles and thoughts also are from the same state.

What are those odds?

Joe how did you find Getbig?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 11:09:06 AM
Its not easy to stay lean when you eat a lot of sugar and fat every day. When youre younger, is easy cause metabolism is rocking, but after a certain age...

It’s very easy - you don’t eat those things. I am almost 50 so she has nothing to do with it at all.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2019, 11:10:23 AM
I never claimed to be a Bodybuilder. Actually, one late Uncle was into heavy training, and he gave me a Flex Magazine, on the 90s.

And then, unfortunately, I got sort of hooked. But, I gotta say that I prefer Skateboarding.

I never met Shizzo, and wouldn't have a problem meeting the Guy.

Yes, I posted  intoxicated in here a few times, not proud at all.

I had abs growing up. Im not that fat. I mean 20-22% BF.

As far as I know, Shizzo is a Republican, even read he supporting Trump or something..

only someone who was pretending they didnt know what he was like would write that..

and why would you say hes a republican?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 11:40:22 AM
It’s very easy - you don’t eat those things. I am almost 50 so she has nothing to do with it at all.

you don’t eat those things"

People dont have to drink liquor or do cocaine/heroin/meth, but they do, Man.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 11:43:56 AM
Getbig is a bodybuilding forum with 100's of members, years removed from its peak.

Oddly there are two posters from that number that have similar posting styles and thoughts also are from the same state.

What are those odds?

Joe how did you find Getbig?


First, I wanted to join MD forum, but found out that place was boring, so joined GB. Simple as that
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 11:46:19 AM

First, I wanted to join MD forum, but found out that place was boring, so joined GB. Simple as that

The MD forum? When did you want to join that in 2008?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 11:46:35 AM
only someone who was pretending they didnt know what he was like would write that..

and why would you say hes a republican?

Your questionnaire does not bother me at all, I am amazed one will take the time to know about someone' s Real life. Intriguing, to say the least
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 11:47:40 AM
The MD forum? When did you want to join that in 2008?

Am I suppose to know the year, Dave? Seriously? LOL
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2019, 11:52:38 AM
Your questionnaire does not bother me at all, I am amazed one will take the time to know about someone' s Real life. Intriguing, to say the least

and with that response all doubt is finally lifted


only Shizzo could have written that.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 11:54:48 AM
and with that response all doubt is finally lifted


only Shizzo could have written that.

Oh. Its good to know youre calling me a liar and a cock sucker fag. Thank You
Title: Re: Hey ESF
Post by: Primemuscle on September 28, 2019, 12:06:48 PM
I think you meant peace.

 ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2019, 12:08:56 PM
Am I suppose to know the year, Dave? Seriously? LOL

Well you joined here 2017. So it shouldnt be that hard to say 2016 or there abouts.

We know who you are so it doesn't matter anyhow.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 12:12:13 PM
Well you joined here 2017. So it shouldnt be that hard to say 2016 or there abouts.

We know who you are so it doesn't matter anyhow.

LOL I hope you find me, then, tonight at The Beta Machine concert.

Go to Jannus, and shout: Shiiizzzooooo"
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 12:24:39 PM
Oh. Its good to know youre calling me a liar and a cock sucker fag. Thank You


WAIT - Was (is) Shizzo a cocksuck? I didn’t realize he was a fag-it
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2019, 12:24:44 PM
King Shizzo still active today
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=5483
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 12:35:01 PM
What do you mean, 2 assholes? Im saying that, if you have Cancer, you should do things you never done it before, enjoying life and staying away from a board that get you mad, anything wrong with that??

Im not dissing or trolling you, Wes, camon Man, dont be a dick. Im not writing you off
Dude,I apologize..............a s you might guess,my  head isn`t in a very good space at the moment.

Very sorry and sincerely mean it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 12:50:36 PM
Where`s the chronic liar today,at home fabricating more bullshit ?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2019, 12:51:38 PM
Where`s the chronic liar today,at home fabricating more bullshit ?

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Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 12:54:33 PM
King Shizzo still active today
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=5483

But is Shizzo really gay? I missed that about him.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 12:54:37 PM

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Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 12:55:39 PM
But is Shizzo really gay? I missed that about him.
He said he sucked a cock............not that there`s anything wrong with that!   LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 28, 2019, 01:06:17 PM
Dude,I apologize..............a s you might guess,my  head isn`t in a very good space at the moment.

Very sorry and sincerely mean it.

Its all good, Wes. Have a great weekend, Man
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
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Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 28, 2019, 01:49:03 PM
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Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
Its all good, Wes. Have a great weekend, Man
Thanks buddy,I`m truly sorry.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2019, 02:13:51 PM
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Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 02:25:29 PM
He said he sucked a cock............not that there`s anything wrong with that!   LOL  ;D

Ohhh - ok... yeh nothing wrong with HIM playing the ole skin flute. Well - other than the fact that it’s a repulsive thought and it makes absolutely no sense why a man would want cock in his mouth.
Pussy - or - cock... I don’t know - call me closed minded but that’s a really easy choice.  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Ohhh - ok... yeh nothing wrong with HIM playing the ole skin flute. Well - other than the fact that it’s a repulsive thought and it makes absolutely no sense why a man would want cock in his mouth.
Pussy - or - cock... I don’t know - call me closed minded but that’s a really easy choice.  ;D
If I could suck my own cock,I`d never leave the house.............but no,I do not think I`d go there with anyone else.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on September 28, 2019, 03:44:32 PM
If I could suck my own cock,I`d never leave the house.............but no,I do not think I`d go there with anyone else.

You should get into hot yoga.  It might help limber you up.  Then, who knows.  You may never have to leave the house again.  :)
You seem like you are in a better place today Wes.  Best wishes.  Looking forward to the fights tonight!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 03:53:06 PM
You should get into hot yoga.  It might help limber you up.  Then, who knows.  You may never have to leave the house again.  :)
You seem like you are in a better place today Wes.  Best wishes.  Looking forward to the fights tonight!
Thanks for the yoga idea............very intriguining !  LOL  ;D

Yeah man,I`m admittedly depressed but I have to face this like a man whatever the outcome may be,

It`s tough on my wife but she`s encouraging me which is a big help in keeping my spirits up.

I do want to say that if I said anything rude or disrespectful to people yesterday,I`m sorry...............it was just my fear and emotions  talking.

OH yeah,this doesn`t pertain to the chronic liar EFS........he can still suck a bag of dicks.............actual ly he`s probably on his second bag as we speak !
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
If I could suck my own cock,I`d never leave the house.............but no,I do not think I`d go there with anyone else.

The Martian back is very pliable (we also have insanely long/large peckers) - so I actually can attest that it’s not so bad.
All cocks other than mine are filthy sweat socks though.  🤮
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 04:04:09 PM
Thanks for the yoga idea............very intriguining !  LOL  ;D

Yeah man,I`m admittedly depressed but I have to face this like a man whatever the outcome may be,

It`s tough on my wife but she`s encouraging me which is a big help in keeping my spirits up.

I do want to say that if I said anything rude or disrespectful to people yesterday,I`m sorry...............it was just my fear and emotions  talking.

OH yeah,this doesn`t pertain to the chronic liar EFS........he can still suck a bag of dicks.............actual ly he`s probably on his second bag as we speak !

His dad said “Where did you learn that?!?!”  Eric replied - “I learned it from watching YOU dad”
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 28, 2019, 04:06:12 PM
You`re a funny fucker !  'D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on September 28, 2019, 04:27:55 PM
But is Shizzo really gay? I missed that about him.

Who knows? People talk a lot of shit around these parts. Supposedly, he admitted to sucking cock on a dare. Who does that if they aren't attracted to other guys?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 28, 2019, 06:20:25 PM
Who knows? People talk a lot of shit around these parts. Supposedly, he admitted to sucking cock on a dare. Who does that if they aren't attracted to other guys?

I know this probably “phobic” but when a gay man says the word “shit” it really makes me uncomfortable  ;D

I think ole Shizzo probably did play the skin flute. Something tells me that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and ESF has dabbled in the do do as well.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2019, 02:28:06 AM
Hot yoga is an alternative, both for Eric and Wes.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on September 29, 2019, 03:31:33 AM
Dude,I apologize..............a s you might guess,my  head isn`t in a very good space at the moment.

Very sorry and sincerely mean it.

There is never any good reason to apologize to Shizzo.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 29, 2019, 05:45:56 AM
There is never any good reason to apologize to Shizzo.

Well, at least I dont suck cock and take up one every day into my ass, like some people in here, right, SF1900!?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 29, 2019, 05:47:18 AM
F.A.G.G.O.T.!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 06:20:40 AM
Now I`m inadverdantly starting trouble on here ! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 08:14:50 AM
There is never any good reason to apologize to Shizzo.

SF - in your opinion is Joe Val also Shizzo?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2019, 08:45:33 AM
I know this probably “phobic” but when a gay man says the word “shit” it really makes me uncomfortable  ;D

I think ole Shizzo probably did play the skin flute. Something tells me that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and ESF has dabbled in the do do as well.

Doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2019, 08:54:42 AM
Where`s the chronic liar today,at home fabricating more bullshit ?

For someone who claims he doesn't think about me 24-7 and compare himself to me, you seem to think about me and wonder what I'm doing an aweful lot.

Hate to burst you bubble, but I have a life outside of getbig. Maybe if you put the bottle down and left the house once in a while you'd figure if out. Hope this helps!

Btw, don't come to me for help stopping drinking. You may as well drink yourself to death at this stage in life. Just feel sorry for that Haggard woman you call a wfe havingvgh put up with your chronic alcoholism.
Title: Re: Hey ESF
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2019, 09:10:34 AM
I`m calling you out you peice of shit.

I may just take a flight out to beautiful San Diego to disrespect you to your face...........since you don`t like disrespect

'After all you already got me dead sop I can play Val Kilmer in Tombstone on your ass with nothing to lose

You`re a chronic liar and chronic masterbator.


See, here's where reading comprehension really pay off you alcoholic junkie.

I haven't lived in San Diego 4/15 fucking years. I don't know what you can't comprehend about that even though I've told you numerous times every time you say if you have some mysterious friend of mine from San Diego who knows me who is pming you fairy tales. You fucking junkie drunk. before you get on an airplane you better learn how to put the bottle down first.

You claim that you were in a good headspace? It sounds like you were drunk. Drunks and junkies tend to disregard reality and substitute it with their own to suit their needs, and you have all the telltale signs of suffering from chronic alcoholism.

maybe it's time you go back to a meeting and sitting back and shut your fucking mouth and listen for once you mean learn something the first you might want to take a trip to the doctor because I don't think stopping drinking at your stage in the game is going to be healthy and you may wind up with a seizure. You may need a medical detox before even considering going back to AA or even better yet going to rehab were you can tell your tall tale stories to the other junkies and drug addicts.

I'm just saying what other people have been telling me via p.m. I don't give a fuk about you or if you would die tomorrow. Hell I wouldn't even feel sorry for your wife she could have left your ass 20 years ago or 10 or 5 but she chose to stick around and take care and baby a drunk. Probably used to it as her father was probably a drunk as well.

Way to pick'em, Wesley.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 09:15:40 AM
Doesn't work that way.

I wouldn’t know. I never had a fear of coming home to see my dad getting his ass reamed by a group of dudes - or on his knees. My pops taught me how to hunt - fish etc. followed his lead into military - college and a successful profession.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2019, 09:35:22 AM
eric back with three posts on the bounce about not caring...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 09:42:11 AM
For someone who claims he doesn't think about me 24-7 and compare himself to me, you seem to think about me and wonder what I'm doing an aweful lot.

Hate to burst you bubble, but I have a life outside of getbig. Maybe if you put the bottle down and left the house once in a while you'd figure if out. Hope this helps!

Btw, don't come to me for help stopping drinking. You may as well drink yourself to death at this stage in life. Just feel sorry for that Haggard woman you call a wfe havingvgh put up with your chronic alcoholism.
In exactly 2 weeks you fucktrd I will be clean and sober for exactly 18years straigt.

CAn you say the same?

I`ll wait.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 09:47:22 AM

See, here's where reading comprehension really pay off you alcoholic junkie.

I haven't lived in San Diego 4/15 fucking years. I don't know what you can't comprehend about that even though I've told you numerous times every time you say if you have some mysterious friend of mine from San Diego who knows me who is pming you fairy tales. You fucking junkie drunk. before you get on an airplane you better learn how to put the bottle down first.

You claim that you were in a good headspace? It sounds like you were drunk. Drunks and junkies tend to disregard reality and substitute it with their own to suit their needs, and you have all the telltale signs of suffering from chronic alcoholism.

maybe it's time you go back to a meeting and sitting back and shut your fucking mouth and listen for once you mean learn something the first you might want to take a trip to the doctor because I don't think stopping drinking at your stage in the game is going to be healthy and you may wind up with a seizure. You may need a medical detox before even considering going back to AA or even better yet going to rehab were you can tell your tall tale stories to the other junkies and drug addicts.

I'm just saying what other people have been telling me via p.m. I don't give a fuk about you or if you would die tomorrow. Hell I wouldn't even feel sorry for your wife she could have left your ass 20 years ago or 10 or 5 but she chose to stick around and take care and baby a drunk. Probably used to it as her father was probably a drunk as well.

Way to pick'em, Wesley.
^all made up bullshit just to cause deflection^

I`ll go wherever you live motherrfucker just so I can show you that I`m from the streets like I said I was.

On my streets,we don`t play so you should be packing.

I`m he original don`t give a fuck and an OG from the hood.

Laugh if you want,but you won`t accept my challenge because your a bluffer and probably never had a fight in your life being locked down in PC for years.

Punk ass bitch!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2019, 09:50:53 AM
Wes VS Eric in a Cage




SET IT UP!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 09:53:24 AM
There`sa few people here that I wouldn`t go to to toe with
Pellius
Josh
Chaos

And a few more.

You do not get a cherry when you fuck with me.........been fighting bigger guys all my life.
 
No brag,just fact.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 10:16:35 AM
There`sa few people here that I wouldn`t go to to toe with
Pellius
Josh
Chaos

And a few more.

You do not get a cherry when you fuck with me.........been fighting bigger guys all my life.
 
No brag,just fact.


Wes - it’s very obvious that Eric is just an awkward scared kid. Don’t let yourself fantasize about smashing his grape - cause that’s one dude that will run like a bitch and would NEVER square up with you. So you are just going to be the crazy old man screaming “lemme at em!!”
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2019, 10:21:33 AM

Wes - it’s very obvious that Eric is just an awkward scared kid. Don’t let yourself fantasize about smashing his grape - cause that’s one dude that will run like a bitch and would NEVER square up with you. So you are just going to be the crazy old man screaming “lemme at em!!”

Eric would bring three guys along (paid guys because no one likes him enough to help him fo free) to sucker punch you.

Im surprised he hasnt mentioned his successful fighting career in Mexico, then again hes probably forgotten he made that up.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 10:24:16 AM

Wes - it’s very obvious that Eric is just an awkward scared kid. Don’t let yourself fantasize about smashing his grape - cause that’s one dude that will run like a bitch and would NEVER square up with you. So you are just going to be the crazy old man screaming “lemme at em!!”
Dude,I`m serious,if I saw him I`d spit in his face because I know he`s a pussy.

I realize it`s only he internet,but I actually can`t stand the guy and when I say this,I`m being nice.

Dude insulted my wife.............I don`t play that shit.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 10:26:35 AM
Eric would bring three guys along (paid guys because no one likes him enough to help him fo free) to sucker punch you.

Im surprised he hasnt mentioned his successful fighting career in Mexico, then again hes probably forgotten he made that up.
I wouldn`t hesitate to blow them away.

I got nothing to lose but time and teeth and both of those are getting pretty scarce!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 10:27:37 AM
Dude,I`m serious,if I saw him I`d spit in his face because I know he`s a pussy.

I realize it`s only he internet,but I actually can`t stand the guy and when I say this,I`m being nice.

Dude insulted my wife.............I don`t play that shit.

Think about it man. He impregnated some chunky skanks - abandoned his kids - lives like a refugee. He is JEALOUS of you. He would kill to have your wife and your life.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
poor Eric, he even has a mantra in his sig to remind himself to be a man.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 10:49:43 AM
YEAH you fuckers are making too much fucking sense right now !  LOL  ;D

I`ll back off unless he gives me any shit.

Seriously,I hate that guy and I do not hate anyone on Earth.

He fucked with the wrong dude even though he thinks he gets a pass because he was locked up.

Well I`m not from Sunnybrook Farms myself.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chaos on September 29, 2019, 12:36:23 PM
There`sa few people here that I wouldn`t go to to toe with
Pellius
Josh
Chaos

And a few more.

You do not get a cherry when you fuck with me.........been fighting bigger guys all my life.
 
No brag,just fact.
I'd split a root beer float with you if you ever come to the West coast. 8)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on September 29, 2019, 01:19:02 PM
^all made up bullshit just to cause deflection^

I`ll go wherever you live motherrfucker just so I can show you that I`m from the streets like I said I was.

On my streets,we don`t play so you should be packing.

I`m he original don`t give a fuck and an OG from the hood.

Laugh if you want,but you won`t accept my challenge because your a bluffer and probably never had a fight in your life being locked down in PC for years.

Punk ass bitch!

In. First getbig forum shooting.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2019, 02:21:19 PM
I get a pass on Wes just because i've NEVER been locked up!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 02:24:38 PM
I'd split a root beer float with you if you ever come to the West coast. 8)
Two straws big fella ?  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on September 29, 2019, 02:43:40 PM
I wouldn’t know. I never had a fear of coming home to see my dad getting his ass reamed by a group of dudes - or on his knees. My pops taught me how to hunt - fish etc. followed his lead into military - college and a successful profession.

Lucky you.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 03:54:41 PM
Lucky you.

I don’t consider it luck. That’s the way it’s SUPPOSED to be.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on September 29, 2019, 03:56:12 PM
I don’t consider it luck. That’s the way it’s SUPPOSED to be.

Maybe I'm the only one, but I feel bad that your father couldn't be himself and had to live a double life.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chaos on September 29, 2019, 05:07:08 PM
Two straws big fella ?  LOL  ;D
One float, two straws.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2019, 06:11:04 PM
I didn't bother to count, but it looked like about 5-6 straight posts telling everyone how tuff you are. lol

Try putting the bottle down and lay off the meth.

Every post screams alcoholic on a bender of booze and meth and/or coke. Maybe that's why you haven't been going to your meetings.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on September 29, 2019, 06:12:11 PM
One float, two straws.

This has the sounds of a degenerate porn category. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 06:12:50 PM
I didn't bother to count, but it looked like about 5-6 straight posts telling everyone how tuff you are. lol

Try putting the bottle down and lay off the meth.

Every post screams alcoholic on a bender of booze and meth and/or coke. Maybe that's why you haven't been going to your meetings.
Again,how long have you been clean and sober ?

I`ll continue to wait.................... ................pussyboy !!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 06:30:38 PM
Maybe I'm the only one, but I feel bad that your father couldn't be himself and had to live a double life.

You really try hard to prove the stereotypes right don’t you?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 06:32:35 PM
I didn't bother to count, but it looked like about 5-6 straight posts telling everyone how tuff you are. lol

Try putting the bottle down and lay off the meth.

Every post screams alcoholic on a bender of booze and meth and/or coke. Maybe that's why you haven't been going to your meetings.


Easy little fella - take more klonopin and relax.

How are your kids??? LOL. - just joking man - I know you don’t have a clue.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Skeletor on September 29, 2019, 06:35:05 PM

I got nothing to lose but time and teeth and both of those are getting pretty scarce!

Hahaha!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 29, 2019, 08:35:25 PM
EFS sure spends a lot of time telling people he doesn't care. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 08:44:52 PM
EFS sure spends a lot of time telling people he doesn't care. 
And saying he doesn1`take kindly to disrespect.............. ...................LIKE I GIVE TWO FLYING FUCKS !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on September 29, 2019, 10:13:27 PM
Ole Eric cares - he cares more than anyone could imagine. That’s why he is hiding from this thread - hoping that it will die off and go away. He is ashamed of the nasty baby mamas - and he knows the fact that he abandoned his kids makes him look pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chococheese on September 29, 2019, 10:15:54 PM
Im new here and just want to tell you I don't care and couldn't give a fuck about any of you so I will reply 47 times in a minimum of 3000 words
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 10:23:47 PM
Im new here and just want to tell you I don't care and couldn't give a fuck about any of you so I will reply 47 times in a minimum of 3000 words
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. .................FUCKFAC E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chococheese on September 29, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. .................FUCKFAC E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

Did you hear the one about Erics kids? Neither did he cause he never sees them
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2019, 10:30:24 PM
Again,how long have you been clean and sober ?

I`ll continue to wait.................... ................pussyboy !!

Unlike you, I don't go around announcing it to people who don't care.  No heroin since April 14th 2016 and a 1nday relapse on alcohol Aug 17th 2017 with over a year prior to that, so I'll let you do the math since it means much more to you that it does to me.

Prior to that I had 14yrs clean from opiates and 12yrs clean from alcohol, but again unlike you, I don't go around announcing it looking for people's approval.

You seem to be completely unaware how stupid you sound .

Of your last 100 posts, 94 have been about me and about how tuff you are, as if you're trying to convince yourself of your lies knowing full well I wouldn't bother "fighting" you. I'd just put a piece of lead through your belly and laugh while you reconsidered your life choices.

"I'm from the mean streets"

Tell us more. Tell us more about all your super baddass street-fights and Chuck Norris skills. Or is is Steven Segal?? Which is it? Maybe Stallone???

I'm shaking in my bones buddy. You fucking dumbass. Make up some more lies about how I have all these friends from San Diego sending you messages when your half-wit brain can't comprehend that I haven't lived in San Diego for over 15 fucking years and the only person who has pm'd you is a herpes infested gay male prostitute who can't get his dick hard without two or three 100mg Viagra and a cock ring and dances for men for a drug money and walks around men's houses naked in exchange for sleeping on their couch when is girlfriend's kick him out of the house.

0h, not to mention he was going bald 19 years ago which is why you would never see him without A backwards baseball cap on. I can't believe that's gotten any better in 19 years. He likely is completely bald up top because he has no money whatsoever to get a hair transplant. Ever wonder why he dropped off the face of the earth when it comes to a semi promising Fitness modeling career? Rumors of his massive drug addiction his beating of women and the fact that he couldn't take a picture without wearing a baseball cap because his hair was thinning so bad up top. That and the fact that without anabolics he would never even step foot in a gym at least not without anabolics. his last photo shoot for HDT they could only photograph in from the chest up with his arms folded across the chest to make his arms look bigger because all he could get his hands on was a few boxes of Stenox/Halotestin and he had a guy a d HDT dropped him after that.

Not like it was much loss to HGTV, since all they ever paid him with was cases of they're pro blend 55 protein. Never a paycheck. Ever. He had to beg gif eaverson for plane tickets in a room to go to the Olympiaand while he was there he ran out of nubain and was calling me begging me to drive all the way back up from woodland hills to bring him more nubain because him and his girlfriend or so fucking dope sick they couldn't even attend the expo. They spent the entire last day or two holed up in there hotel room.


THAT'S your source and you're stupid Coke ruined swiss cheese brain believed every fucking a word of it including somehow I cut off my finger in jail with a saw bawnananana.... Yea, a "saw" in jail
 Bwahahaha.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chococheese on September 29, 2019, 10:32:20 PM
Unlike you, I don't go around announcing it to people who don't care.  No heroin since April 14th 2016 and a 1nday relapse on alcohol Aug 17th 2017 with over a year prior to that, so I'll let you do the math since it means much more to you that it does to me.

Prior to that I had 14yrs clean from opiates and 12yrs clean from alcohol, but again unlike you, I don't go around announcing it looking for people's approval.

You seem to be completely unaware how stupid you sound .

Of your last 100 posts, 94 have been about me and about how tuff you are, as if you're trying to convince yourself of your lies knowing full well I wouldn't bother "fighting" you. I'd just put a piece of lead through your belly and laugh while you reconsidered your life choices.

"I'm from the mean streets"

Tell us more. Tell us more about all your super baddass street-fights and Chuck Norris skills. Or is is Steven Segal?? Which is it? Maybe Stallone???

I'm shaking in my bones buddy. You fucking dumbass. Make up some more lies about how I have all these friends from San Diego sending you messages when your half-wit brain can't comprehend that I haven't lived in San Diego for over 15 fucking years and the only person who has pm'd you is a herpes infested gay male prostitute who can't get his dick hard without two or three 100mg Viagra and a cock ring and dances for men for a drug money and walks around men's houses naked in exchange for sleeping on their couch when is girlfriend's kick him out of the house.

0h, not to mention he was going bald 19 years ago which is why you would never see him without A backwards baseball cap on. I can't believe that's gotten any better in 19 years. He likely is completely bald up top because he has no money whatsoever to get a hair transplant. Ever wonder why he dropped off the face of the earth when it comes to a semi promising Fitness modeling career? Rumors of his massive drug addiction his beating of women and the fact that he couldn't take a picture without wearing a baseball cap because his hair was thinning so bad up top. That and the fact that without anabolics he would never even step foot in a gym at least not without anabolics. his last photo shoot for HDT they could only photograph in from the chest up with his arms folded across the chest to make his arms look bigger because all he could get his hands on was a few boxes of Stenox/Halotestin and he had a guy a d HDT dropped him after that.

Not like it was much loss to HGTV, since all they ever paid him with was cases of they're pro blend 55 protein. Never a paycheck. Ever. He had to beg gif eaverson for plane tickets in a room to go to the Olympiaand while he was there he ran out of nubain and was calling me begging me to drive all the way back up from woodland hills to bring him more nubain because him and his girlfriend or so fucking dope sick they couldn't even attend the expo. They spent the entire last day or two holed up in there hotel room.


THAT'S your source and you're stupid Coke ruined swiss cheese brain believed every fucking a word of it including somehow I cut off my finger in jail with a saw bawnananana.... Yea, a "saw" in jail
 Bwahahaha.

"He doesnt care"
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2019, 10:32:40 PM
Unlike you, I don't go around announcing it to people who don't care.  No heroin since April 14th 2016 and a 1nday relapse on alcohol Aug 17th 2017 with over a year prior to that, so I'll let you do the math since it means much more to you that it does to me.

Prior to that I had 14yrs clean from opiates and 12yrs clean from alcohol, but again unlike you, I don't go around announcing it looking for people's approval.

You seem to be completely unaware how stupid you sound .

Of your last 100 posts, 94 have been about me and about how tuff you are, as if you're trying to convince yourself of your lies knowing full well I wouldn't bother "fighting" you. I'd just put a piece of lead through your belly and laugh while you reconsidered your life choices.

"I'm from the mean streets"

Tell us more. Tell us more about all your super baddass street-fights and Chuck Norris skills. Or is is Steven Segal?? Which is it? Maybe Stallone???

I'm shaking in my bones buddy. You fucking dumbass. Make up some more lies about how I have all these friends from San Diego sending you messages when your half-wit brain can't comprehend that I haven't lived in San Diego for over 15 fucking years and the only person who has pm'd you is a herpes infested gay male prostitute who can't get his dick hard without two or three 100mg Viagra and a cock ring and dances for men for a drug money and walks around men's houses naked in exchange for sleeping on their couch when is girlfriend's kick him out of the house.

0h, not to mention he was going bald 19 years ago which is why you would never see him without A backwards baseball cap on. I can't believe that's gotten any better in 19 years. He likely is completely bald up top because he has no money whatsoever to get a hair transplant. Ever wonder why he dropped off the face of the earth when it comes to a semi promising Fitness modeling career? Rumors of his massive drug addiction his beating of women and the fact that he couldn't take a picture without wearing a baseball cap because his hair was thinning so bad up top. That and the fact that without anabolics he would never even step foot in a gym at least not without anabolics. his last photo shoot for HDT they could only photograph in from the chest up with his arms folded across the chest to make his arms look bigger because all he could get his hands on was a few boxes of Stenox/Halotestin and he had a guy a d HDT dropped him after that.

Not like it was much loss to HGTV, since all they ever paid him with was cases of they're pro blend 55 protein. Never a paycheck. Ever. He had to beg gif eaverson for plane tickets in a room to go to the Olympiaand while he was there he ran out of nubain and was calling me begging me to drive all the way back up from woodland hills to bring him more nubain because him and his girlfriend or so fucking dope sick they couldn't even attend the expo. They spent the entire last day or two holed up in there hotel room.


THAT'S your source and you're stupid Coke ruined swiss cheese brain believed every fucking a word of it including somehow I cut off my finger in jail with a saw bawnananana.... Yea, a "saw" in jail
 Bwahahaha.
I dont care

fixed
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chococheese on September 29, 2019, 10:33:53 PM
Someone put "E-Dogs" face on this

well then I sure dont know how to post a picture on this site

but like E-Dog, I dont care
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: sarcafago on September 29, 2019, 10:44:36 PM
Ole Eric cares - he cares more than anyone could imagine. That’s why he is hiding from this thread - hoping that it will die off and go away. He is ashamed of the nasty baby mamas - and he knows the fact that he abandoned his kids makes him look pathetic.

Shut up you fat fucking cuck, you haven’t got laid in years. You’ve got nerve calling anyone pathetic still living paycheck to paycheck at over 50 years old you broke loser. Stick to your inside every pavement ape there’s a conservative shtick.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on September 29, 2019, 10:45:51 PM
Shut up you fat fucking cuck, you haven’t got laid in years. You’ve got nerve calling anyone pathetic still living paycheck to paycheck at over 50 years old you broke loser. Stick to your inside every pavement ape there’s a conservative shtick.

^This. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 11:23:41 PM
Unlike you, I don't go around announcing it to people who don't care.  No heroin since April 14th 2016 and a 1nday relapse on alcohol Aug 17th 2017 with over a year prior to that, so I'll let you do the math since it means much more to you that it does to me.

Prior to that I had 14yrs clean from opiates and 12yrs clean from alcohol, but again unlike you, I don't go around announcing it looking for people's approval.

You seem to be completely unaware how stupid you sound .

Of your last 100 posts, 94 have been about me and about how tuff you are, as if you're trying to convince yourself of your lies knowing full well I wouldn't bother "fighting" you. I'd just put a piece of lead through your belly and laugh while you reconsidered your life choices.

"I'm from the mean streets"

Tell us more. Tell us more about all your super baddass street-fights and Chuck Norris skills. Or is is Steven Segal?? Which is it? Maybe Stallone???

I'm shaking in my bones buddy. You fucking dumbass. Make up some more lies about how I have all these friends from San Diego sending you messages when your half-wit brain can't comprehend that I haven't lived in San Diego for over 15 fucking years and the only person who has pm'd you is a herpes infested gay male prostitute who can't get his dick hard without two or three 100mg Viagra and a cock ring and dances for men for a drug money and walks around men's houses naked in exchange for sleeping on their couch when is girlfriend's kick him out of the house.

0h, not to mention he was going bald 19 years ago which is why you would never see him without A backwards baseball cap on. I can't believe that's gotten any better in 19 years. He likely is completely bald up top because he has no money whatsoever to get a hair transplant. Ever wonder why he dropped off the face of the earth when it comes to a semi promising Fitness modeling career? Rumors of his massive drug addiction his beating of women and the fact that he couldn't take a picture without wearing a baseball cap because his hair was thinning so bad up top. That and the fact that without anabolics he would never even step foot in a gym at least not without anabolics. his last photo shoot for HDT they could only photograph in from the chest up with his arms folded across the chest to make his arms look bigger because all he could get his hands on was a few boxes of Stenox/Halotestin and he had a guy a d HDT dropped him after that.

Not like it was much loss to HGTV, since all they ever paid him with was cases of they're pro blend 55 protein. Never a paycheck. Ever. He had to beg gif eaverson for plane tickets in a room to go to the Olympiaand while he was there he ran out of nubain and was calling me begging me to drive all the way back up from woodland hills to bring him more nubain because him and his girlfriend or so fucking dope sick they couldn't even attend the expo. They spent the entire last day or two holed up in there hotel room.


THAT'S your source and you're stupid Coke ruined swiss cheese brain believed every fucking a word of it including somehow I cut off my finger in jail with a saw bawnananana.... Yea, a "saw" in jail
 Bwahahaha.
I could give 2 fucks about Scott Markey,though he makes you look like dogshit.

My beef is with your phony punk ass.

You and me both know you ain`t about shit.

One thing about me son is that you will never kick my ass easy because in a street fight just like your self proclaimed prison fights,I play to win even if I have to get locked up.

It will be your funeral and my trial.

BITCH!

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2019, 11:53:24 PM
I could give 2 fucks about Scott Markey,though he makes you look like dogshit.

My beef is with your phony punk ass.

You and me both know you ain`t about shit.

One thing about me son is that you will never kick my ass easy because in a street fight just like your self proclaimed prison fights,I play to win even if I have to get locked up.

It will be your funeral and my trial.

BITCH!



Once again another post from you claiming about how tough you are and how you would kick my ass. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

You seem to be the only one that actually believes that shit or even cares. You spent 46 pages repeating the same fucking thing.

Anybody who's ever had a drug or alcohol problem can recognize that you are obviously not sober
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2019, 12:05:25 AM
#FREE_SCOTT_"MALARKEY"_MARKEY!


Team Flotsom 4 Lyfe
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on September 30, 2019, 12:39:42 AM
#FREE_SCOTT_"MALARKEY"_MARKEY!


Team Flotsom 4 Lyfe

LMFAO. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 12:58:13 AM
Once again another post from you claiming about how tough you are and how you would kick my ass. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

You seem to be the only one that actually believes that shit or even cares. You spent 46 pages repeating the same fucking thing.

Anybody who's ever had a drug or alcohol problem can recognize that you are obviously not sober
OK,I`ll admit it,I`m drunker than a hoot owl right now.

Dude,you are so fucking lame it` not even funny.

We both know you`re a fraud unlike the naieve sheep here who don`t know any better. and believe your nonsensical bullshit.

Write some more ficticious novels so we can all get another laugh.

BTW,Scott Markeys physique makes yours look like you never trained a day in your life and you have the balls to put him down.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2019, 03:31:02 AM
I'll have to be serious here for a change.


I'm an old fart these days, and have had several injuries during the years, back, ligaments, tendons, knee etc list goes on.


I had an extensive martial arts-background in several arts when i was younger, (reason i have "Kwon" as my nickname was from the Tae Kwon Do-days, where Kwon means Fist), and i had some unfortunate fights in the streets in my youth. As i grew up and became a teacher, (and a tad more mature) i left all of that behind me.


I would not want to fight with either wes, Pellius, Malarkey, Basile or Eric.


(all for different reasons)


Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on September 30, 2019, 05:36:45 AM
I always knew there would be a get big Murder.

Rumor Wiggs was going to be number one but left Vegas just in time.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on September 30, 2019, 05:41:43 AM
I'll have to be serious here for a change.


I'm an old fart these days, and have had several injuries during the years, back, ligaments, tendons, knee etc list goes on.


I had an extensive martial arts-background in several arts when i was younger, (reason i have "Kwon" as my nickname was from the Tae Kwon Do-days, where Kwon means Fist), and i had some unfortunate fights in the streets in my youth. As i grew up and became a teacher, (and a tad more mature) i left all of that behind me.


I would not want to fight with either wes, Pellius, Malarkey, Basile or Eric.


(all for different reasons)


 

Keep a tight circle. 6-7 members all over 6 foot, handy with their fists and quick to pull a trigger.
In war, numbers are not the issue. It is a question of not attacking too aggressively.
Concentrate your strength. Assess your enemy, and win the confidence of your men:
That is enough.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 30, 2019, 06:09:05 AM
Whole lot of effort going into not caring.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 30, 2019, 07:02:59 AM
I'll have to be serious here for a change.


I'm an old fart these days, and have had several injuries during the years, back, ligaments, tendons, knee etc list goes on.


I had an extensive martial arts-background in several arts when i was younger, (reason i have "Kwon" as my nickname was from the Tae Kwon Do-days, where Kwon means Fist), and i had some unfortunate fights in the streets in my youth. As i grew up and became a teacher, (and a tad more mature) i left all of that behind me.


I would not want to fight with either wes, Pellius, Malarkey, Basile or Eric.


(all for different reasons)




(https://media.giphy.com/media/PMxSMgegOkoM0/giphy.gif)

So glad you left your deadly Tae Kwon Do days behind you and made it out alive, 'Fist'.


This thread is just full of hardcore Getbiggers with 'extensive martial arts backgrounds' and tips for surviving wars.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ApprehensiveYellowishAmazontreeboa-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2019, 08:56:36 AM
(https://scontent.farn1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71232797_10157747302100555_1964576023248896000_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQkC4Y5tXMG7tSx6rNJqls9T1cMkmYgtRSFOT9zyI9FDZHW8p6W9ppAKD0aUb3g3rzQ&_nc_ht=scontent.farn1-1.fna&oh=04a0f5310bc665b4c05f447f583894d8&oe=5E24907D)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on September 30, 2019, 11:15:53 AM
I'll have to be serious here for a change.


I'm an old fart these days, and have had several injuries during the years, back, ligaments, tendons, knee etc list goes on.


I had an extensive martial arts-background in several arts when i was younger, (reason i have "Kwon" as my nickname was from the Tae Kwon Do-days, where Kwon means Fist), and i had some unfortunate fights in the streets in my youth. As i grew up and became a teacher, (and a tad more mature) i left all of that behind me.


I would not want to fight with either wes, Pellius, Malarkey, Basile or Eric.


(all for different reasons)




These are wise words from a wise man.  ;)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 30, 2019, 11:57:47 AM
I could give 2 fucks about Scott Markey,though he makes you look like dogshit.

My beef is with your phony punk ass.

You and me both know you ain`t about shit.

One thing about me son is that you will never kick my ass easy because in a street fight just like your self proclaimed prison fights,I play to win even if I have to get locked up.

It will be your funeral and my trial.

Again, Why, Wes? Its just a board, this aint Real Life.  This keeps making you angry and if you have the illness that we shall not say the name, it will get worst.

Eric is just a normal Guy...

BITCH!



Again, Why, Wes? Its just a board, this aint Real Life.  This keeps making you angry and if you have the illness that we shall not say the name, it will get worst.

Eric is  a normal Guy.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 30, 2019, 12:02:51 PM
Certain poster is a human contradiction.

Religious, Republican, yet F.A.G.G.O.T

You make a lot of sense, Pal....
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 30, 2019, 12:29:57 PM
Again, Why, Wes? Its just a board, this aint Real Life.  This keeps making you angry and if you have the illness that we shall not say the name, it will get worst.

Eric is  a normal Guy.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/tHPFjJ2g6n5u0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on September 30, 2019, 01:19:27 PM
Holy shit 47 pages of lifeless losers whining about their shitty lives and tough street fights. Getbig is awesome brings out the worst in people.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chococheese on September 30, 2019, 01:31:39 PM
Holy shit 47 pages of lifeless losers whining about their shitty lives and tough street fights. Getbig is awesome brings out the worst in people.

So you are saying coming on here and making multiple posts arrogantly about how great you are and how much better you are than other people and how you are much richer than anyone else is just the most wonderful thing? I see
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on September 30, 2019, 01:37:26 PM
So you are saying coming on here and making multiple posts arrogantly about how great you are and how much better you are than other people and how you are much richer than anyone else is just the most wonderful thing? I see

Pretty much that’s what I’m saying
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 30, 2019, 01:48:23 PM
Pretty much that’s what I’m saying

I think its more along the lines of I take steroids and diet year round and have to earn more money that everyone else to make up for my massive insecurities and the bullying I suffered whilst growing up, because without all thos e superficial things I wouldnt be able to get through life.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on September 30, 2019, 01:55:27 PM
I think its more along the lines of I take steroids and diet year round and have to earn more money that everyone else to make up for my massive insecurities and the bullying I suffered whilst growing up, because without all thos e superficial things I wouldnt be able to get through life.

Meltdown
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on September 30, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
Meltdown
;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 02:08:09 PM
I think its more along the lines of I take steroids and diet year round and have to earn more money that everyone else to make up for my massive insecurities and the bullying I suffered whilst growing up, because without all thos e superficial things I wouldnt be able to get through life.
Plus,he owns several very expensive watches.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Again, Why, Wes? Its just a board, this aint Real Life.  This keeps making you angry and if you have the illness that we shall not say the name, it will get worst.

Eric is  a normal Guy.
You`re a good guy and I have nothing at all against you,but did you just say that ESF is NORMAL  ?

Dude,he`s nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Some newbies or oldies who got soft over the years seem to be forgetting that this is getbig..........the Dodge City of bb message boards.

This is what we do here or have we turned into bb.com ?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 02:14:36 PM
It`s all in fun,after I gouge out his fucking eye,we`ll shake hands and have a protein shake with a few cups of insulin to boot.   ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on September 30, 2019, 02:20:10 PM
Holy shit 47 pages of lifeless losers whining about their shitty lives and tough street fights. Getbig is awesome brings out the worst in people.

Stay outta this, dweeb. There are real gangsters posting here now
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2019, 02:23:07 PM
Holy shit 47 pages of lifeless losers whining about their shitty lives and tough street fights. Getbig is awesome brings out the worst in people.

Yet here you are contributing ??
If you don’t like the thread stay out of it.

Simple.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 02:24:45 PM
Yet here you are contributing ??
If you don’t like the thread stay out of it.

Simple.
Well said my friend!  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on September 30, 2019, 02:32:00 PM
Yet here you are contributing ??
If you don’t like the thread stay out of it.

Simple.

Big contributions from the x
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on September 30, 2019, 02:40:49 PM
ERIC IS A NORMAL GUY
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 02:51:15 PM
ERIC IS QUITE GAY
FIXED
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2019, 03:05:07 PM
ERIC IS A NORMALY FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD

Fixed
And slightly more accurate

🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on September 30, 2019, 05:54:02 PM
Holy shit 47 pages of lifeless losers Wes whining about their his shitty lives and tough street fights. Getbig is awesome brings out the worst in people.

Fixed that for you.

Feel free to dig through all 47+ pages of me bragging about my "shitty" life growing up on the "mean streets" and all my baddass street-fights with all my junkie friends (in between stealing people's TV's and VCRs for crack and Maddog 20/20 money.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 05:57:44 PM
Fixed that for you.

Feel free to dig through all 47+ pages of me bragging about my "shitty" life growing up on the "mean streets" and all my baddass street-fights with all my junkie friends (in between stealing people's TV's and VCRs for crack and Maddog 20/20 money.


And the fact that they came up with the idea of how to paint piano keys after seeing his “smile”.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 09:25:12 PM
And the fact that they came up with the idea of how to paint piano keys after seeing his “smile”.
Stay in your lane gimmick........you`re way out of your league.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 09:29:30 PM
Stay in your lane gimmick........you`re way out of your league.

Crybaby pillhead
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on September 30, 2019, 09:43:38 PM
Fixed that for you.

Feel free to dig through all 47+ pages of me bragging about my "shitty" life growing up on the "mean streets" and all my baddass street-fights with all my junkie friends (in between stealing people's TV's and VCRs for crack and Maddog 20/20 money.



I’m not digging through anything I’m not here for friends just the entertainment. You guys are all morons.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 30, 2019, 09:49:19 PM
Keep a tight circle. 6-7 members all over 6 foot, handy with their fists and quick to pull a trigger.
In war, numbers are not the issue. It is a question of not attacking too aggressively.
Concentrate your strength. Assess your enemy, and win the confidence of your men:
That is enough.

Dave you sound like a guy whos been through a few battles. 

What elite branch of military did you serve in and for how long?

How many confirmed kills do you have?

Thanks!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 09:49:49 PM
Crybaby pillhead
Good comeback,I thought I told you to try harder.
 ::)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 09:50:43 PM
Dave you sound like a guy whos been through a few battles. 

What elite branch of military did you serve in and for how long?

How many confirmed kills do you have?

Thanks!

MY man irishdave kicking ass and drinking beer !   ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on September 30, 2019, 09:52:40 PM
Dave you sound like a guy whos been through a few battles. 

What elite branch of military did you serve in and for how long?

How many confirmed kills do you have?

Thanks!


Lmao confirmed kills. Christ this is hilarious. Funny watching adults speak like this.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 09:58:03 PM
Good comeback,I thought I told you to try harder.
 ::)

Cough bullshit cough “over 60 bodybuilding trophies” cough bullshit cough.

65 year old loser looking for internet acceptance. Relax Billy Badass, Primemuscle will white knight for you and suck your dick.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on September 30, 2019, 10:00:13 PM
Cough bullshit cough “over 60 bodybuilding trophies” cough bullshit cough.

65 year old loser looking for internet acceptance. Relax Billy Badass, Primemuscle will white knight for you and suck your dick.

Lol gimmick or not this guy is funny.

So is there going to be a fight behind the monkey bars here or not?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 30, 2019, 10:02:37 PM
Lmao confirmed kills. Christ this is hilarious. Funny watching adults speak like this.

Xfactor your money wouldnt save you from a beating if you came face to face with IrishDave.

Hes not afraid of jail or lawsuits. By the time hes finished his jail sentence you should be just getting out of the hospital.... and he'd crack your skull open again. Because he's stupid and he doesn't care about jail.

Desperate men dont have anything to lose. You have A LOT to lose.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 10:04:05 PM
Lol gimmick or not this guy is funny.

So is there going to be a fight behind the monkey bars here or not?

I’m female.

I’m not going to beat up an intellectually challenged senior citizen.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 10:09:24 PM
Lol gimmick or not this guy is funny.

So is there going to be a fight behind the monkey bars here or not?
Beat it you pompous asshole ! :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 10:10:13 PM
I’m female.

I’m not going to beat up an intellectually challenged senior citizen.


FEMALE !  LOL  


YOU F AGGOT ASS SOFT BITCH.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 10:12:30 PM
Xfactor your money wouldnt save you from a beating if you came face to face with IrishDave.

Hes not afraid of jail or lawsuits. By the time hes finished his jail sentence you should be just getting out of the hospital.... and he'd crack your skull open again. Because he's stupid and he doesn't care about jail.

Desperate men dont have anything to lose. You have A LOT to lose.
Guy thinks he`s the shit because he says he has money.

Probably some broke ass fag.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on September 30, 2019, 10:13:15 PM
FEMALE !  LOL  


YOU F AGGOT ASS SOFT BITCH.

Yes female.

I can’t help it that you’re the anorexic version of Shizzo.

Lying pillhead
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 30, 2019, 10:21:27 PM
Guy thinks he`s the shit because he says he has money.

Probably some broke ass fag.

Exactly, he'd be shaking in his Loubotin's if he ever came face to face with an angry IrishDave.  Those red soles would be brown real quick. Poor dude would be crapping in his Tom Fords!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 10:38:48 PM
Exactly, he'd be shaking in his Loubotin's if he ever came face to face with an angry IrishDave.  Those red soles would be brown real quick. Poor dude would be crapping in his Tom Fords!
He`d be a long way from Starbucks !! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2019, 12:39:57 AM
Stay outta this, dweeb. There are real gangsters posting here now

Now you think you're a 'real gangster' you pikey gypsy.

What a joke.

You're just a low class inbred chav.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2019, 01:11:42 AM
Both Dave D and Irishdave are men to be feared and respected!




The Daves of Peas
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 01, 2019, 01:38:00 AM
I'm curious what the supposed alcoholics anonymous and narcotics anonymous groups would think of this fucking 65 year old washed-up nobody on an internet forumbragging about how much of a badass he is and how he would kick somebody's ass in a street fight and gouge their eyes out and how he's from them super badass mean Streets of sesame Street all while bragging and telling everybody who doesn't care about how he has 18 something years clean and sober.


Really working the steps there aren't you there Wesley? Maybe it's fine time you find yourself a new sponsor.

You are by far the most insecure unqualified punk I have ever heard of being a supposed well-known and requested speaker at any alcoholics anonymous or narcotics anonymous meeting I have ever come across.

 Your complete lack of self-awareness is laughable. Meaning the guys in the back Bros of the meetings you supposedly speak at like where you sit there and Snicker at you and laugh and when they get back into their "druggie buggies" (and that take guys back to whatever rehabs they're coming from) like we sit there and laugh their asses off at what a fucking clown & a loser you are and how you have absolutely no business speaking at any meeting and you're likely going to go back home and pour yourself three fingers off some cheap store-brand whiskey and wash it back in a dirty plastic tumbler after doing a line or two whatever shity coke or meth you could find at that meeting (assuming you didn't do a line of coke or smoke a few bowls of meth before even stepping in the door. To those of us who have been there and done that (minus the coke and meth on my part... But being in rehab it gets pretty fucking easy to notice).

People on this board who haven't been to rehab and haven't been to an AA meeting or NA meeting like we have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about and like we buy into half of your bullshit nonsense. But those of us who have been there and done that will you recognize I'll fucking holzer when we see one.

 I seriously doubt you're sober now much less having 18 plus years of sobriety. Because people with 18 plus years sobriety who have spoken at supposedly "100-plus meetings", don't behave like you. They don't speak like you they don't come on internet bodybuilding forums and talked about how tough they are and how many street fights they've been in and how in real life they would fuck somebody up and gouge their eyes out blah blah blah blah blah.

and if somebody like you actually had 18 plus years of sobriety and actually has spoken it 100 + meeting, you would actually be fucking supportive of somebody like myself who had battled addiction in the past, relapsed, went to rehab and got clean again. Instead after 18 years of sobriety, supposedly, you are still at65 fucking years old, and insecure little boy. So maybe it's time you actually looked in the mirror and faced facts and realized what kind of a fuk up you really are and stopped lying to yourself and maybe it's time for you to go back to rehab or at the very fucking least start going to fucking meetings once in awhile.... instead of just the meetings sum Dum phuc who doesn't know any better invites you to speak at. How about you sit in the back of a meeting once in a while instead of speaking, how about you shut your fucking mouth and listen for once Because there's a whole lot more people who have store is a hell of a lot worse than yours and a hell of a lot worse than mine and maybe you need to leave your fucking fragile little ego at the door and shake somebody's hand once you walk in the door.


Good luck.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ponal on October 01, 2019, 01:48:51 AM
Guy thinks he`s the shit because he says he has money.

Probably some broke ass fag.
you really should stop all this nonsense at your age and stop drinking. you seem to be another bum on a Forum making threats to everyone.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 01:54:47 AM
I haven`t attended an AA or an NA meeting in about 16 years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the gym was my solace and competing is what I was doing.

You have the right to think I still drink but unlike you if I truly was,I would admit it.

My sobriety means more to me than ANYTHING in the entire world and I mean ANYTHING !
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 01:55:46 AM
you really should stop all this nonsense at your age and stop drinking. you seem to be another bum on a Forum making threats to everyone.
Keep your bitch ass out of my threads you soft ass pansy Kunt !
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 02:00:08 AM
I'm curious what the supposed alcoholics anonymous and narcotics anonymous groups would think of this fucking 65 year old washed-up nobody on an internet forumbragging about how much of a badass he is and how he would kick somebody's ass in a street fight and gouge their eyes out and how he's from them super badass mean Streets of sesame Street all while bragging and telling everybody who doesn't care about how he has 18 something years clean and sober.


Really working the steps there aren't you there Wesley? Maybe it's fine time you find yourself a new sponsor.

You are by far the most insecure unqualified punk I have ever heard of being a supposed well-known and requested speaker at any alcoholics anonymous or narcotics anonymous meeting I have ever come across.

 Your complete lack of self-awareness is laughable. Meaning the guys in the back Bros of the meetings you supposedly speak at like where you sit there and Snicker at you and laugh and when they get back into their "druggie buggies" (and that take guys back to whatever rehabs they're coming from) like we sit there and laugh their asses off at what a fucking clown & a loser you are and how you have absolutely no business speaking at any meeting and you're likely going to go back home and pour yourself three fingers off some cheap store-brand whiskey and wash it back in a dirty plastic tumbler after doing a line or two whatever shity coke or meth you could find at that meeting (assuming you didn't do a line of coke or smoke a few bowls of meth before even stepping in the door. To those of us who have been there and done that (minus the coke and meth on my part... But being in rehab it gets pretty fucking easy to notice).

People on this board who haven't been to rehab and haven't been to an AA meeting or NA meeting like we have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about and like we buy into half of your bullshit nonsense. But those of us who have been there and done that will you recognize I'll fucking holzer when we see one.

 I seriously doubt you're sober now much less having 18 plus years of sobriety. Because people with 18 plus years sobriety who have spoken at supposedly "100-plus meetings", don't behave like you. They don't speak like you they don't come on internet bodybuilding forums and talked about how tough they are and how many street fights they've been in and how in real life they would fuck somebody up and gouge their eyes out blah blah blah blah blah.

and if somebody like you actually had 18 plus years of sobriety and actually has spoken it 100 + meeting, you would actually be fucking supportive of somebody like myself who had battled addiction in the past, relapsed, went to rehab and got clean again. Instead after 18 years of sobriety, supposedly, you are still at65 fucking years old, and insecure little boy. So maybe it's time you actually looked in the mirror and faced facts and realized what kind of a fuk up you really are and stopped lying to yourself and maybe it's time for you to go back to rehab or at the very fucking least start going to fucking meetings once in awhile.... instead of just the meetings sum Dum phuc who doesn't know any better invites you to speak at. How about you sit in the back of a meeting once in a while instead of speaking, how about you shut your fucking mouth and listen for once Because there's a whole lot more people who have store is a hell of a lot worse than yours and a hell of a lot worse than mine and maybe you need to leave your fucking fragile little ego at the door and shake somebody's hand once you walk in the door.


Good luck.
I` be hella supportive of you if you weren`t such a chronic liar.

All your stories are fabricated bullshit designed to make you some kind of billy bad ass for the sheep on here who are stupid enough to believe that bullshit you spew.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 01, 2019, 03:29:54 AM
Guy thinks he`s the shit because he says he has money.

Probably some broke ass fag.

I’m the shit because I’m happy, healthy, and have an awesome family.  Having those three things alone make it impossible for me to do nothing but laugh at You.

I see a lot of you here trying to make friends and fight because you’re way too invested in the gossip forum. Take a vacation somewhere. Travel to a new country, go learn something new.  Become a Big Brother and help someone that needs it. All your time invested in this? Man that’s so unfortunate and sad.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 03:33:41 AM
I’m the shit because I’m happy, healthy, and have an awesome family.  Having those three things alone make it impossible for me to do nothing but laugh at You.

I see a lot of you here trying to make friends and fight because you’re way too invested in the gossip forum. Take a vacation somewhere. Travel to a new country, go learn something new.  Become a Big Brother and help someone that needs it. All your time invested in this? Man that’s so unfortunate and sad.
yet here you are with 7000 posts
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 01, 2019, 03:59:17 AM
yet here you are with 7000 posts


I am and for 12-13 years. I probably avg 1 post a day.

Provides cheap entertainment on the go.

On that note I’m heading to the airport, in acquisition mode boys. I’ll be at 114 W 40th st in NY all day today and tomorrow. If big Dave or any other degenerates want to meet by the monkey bars lol.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 04:04:38 AM
I am and for 12-13 years. I probably avg 1 post a day.

Provides cheap entertainment on the go.

On that note I’m heading to the airport, in acquisition mode boys. I’ll be at 114 W 40th st in NY all day today and tomorrow. If big Dave or any other degenerates want to meet by the monkey bars lol.
so every day you post, maybe take a couple weeks off and spend some quality time with the family instead of checking in every day, it only took 10 mins for you to respond to my post..slack day?

and hows it feel to be the most insecure person on getbig?
all the talk of successs and nice cars, flash watches, flying around the world, ripped big and shredded,  all superficial things to mask the frightened little boy that simply wont go away.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 01, 2019, 04:55:02 AM
Eric and Pellius have a way with words. Great story tellers.

Eric is a flamboyant poster, thats what I meant. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 01, 2019, 04:56:20 AM
I’m the shit because I’m happy, healthy, and have an awesome family.  Having those three things alone make it impossible for me to do nothing but laugh at You.

I see a lot of you here trying to make friends and fight because you’re way too invested in the gossip forum. Take a vacation somewhere. Travel to a new country, go learn something new.  Become a Big Brother and help someone that needs it. All your time invested in this? Man that’s so unfortunate and sad.

and help someone that needs it".

Could you send me 300 hundred? ")
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 04:58:48 AM
and help someone that needs it".

Could you send me 300 hundred? ")
you would have liked Joon
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 01, 2019, 04:59:56 AM
you would have liked Joon

Joon? 

Handouts are fullfiling to the soul, my Brother :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on October 01, 2019, 05:13:37 AM
Wow! We have so many bad asses on getbig, many are 6’4 and over, would give Jon Jones a run for his money
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 01, 2019, 05:29:37 AM
you really should stop all this nonsense at your age and stop drinking. you seem to be another bum on a Forum making threats to everyone.

People drink every now and then

Juice use/abuse in here is never criticized, sometimes even glorified.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 01, 2019, 05:36:08 AM
Wow! We have so many bad asses on getbig, many are 6’4 and over, would give Jon Jones a run for his money

I’m 6’5” actually. Jon who? Never heard of him. I’m sure he’s heard of me.

Woooooosssshhhh

Yours truly,
Irishdave
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 01, 2019, 05:43:26 AM
Now you think you're a 'real gangster' you pikey gypsy.

What a joke.

You're just a low class inbred chav.

It’s been three months since I was told I was getting my head blown off. The first weekend I was a little rattled and moved about. Then I said fuck it. Then I got myself a vest. I never leave the house without a piece. The easiest time for them to get you is getting into your car. Always know your surroundings.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 05:51:05 AM
It’s been three months since I was told I was getting my head blown off. The first weekend I was a little rattled and moved about. Then I said fuck it. Then I got myself a vest. I never leave the house without a piece. The easiest time for them to get you is getting into your car. Always know your surroundings.

lack of understanding of the threat...?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 01, 2019, 05:55:09 AM
It’s been three months since I was told I was getting my head blown off. The first weekend I was a little rattled and moved about. Then I said fuck it. Then I got myself a vest. I never leave the house without a piece. The easiest time for them to get you is getting into your car. Always know your surroundings.

I never leave the house without a piece(of meat) :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 01, 2019, 05:58:44 AM
Dave you sound like a guy whos been through a few battles. 

What elite branch of military did you serve in and for how long?

How many confirmed kills do you have?

Thanks!


I was never in the military. I went on my own journey. Think along the lines of Batman and Raz Al Gowl. I’m self taught in guerilla warfare (michael Collins) and have a red belt in ninjitsu (so I can disappear with smoke bombs). I’m essentially as skilled as any CIA operative in espionage but with the added bonus of being an elite green beret American (in this case, Irish) Ninja trained assassin who can kill a pack of Alsatians with his bare hands.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 01, 2019, 05:59:43 AM
lack of understanding of the threat...?

Hitmen fire Centre mass first to slow/immobilize then finish with double tap so vest gives you time

Also, I can’t wear a helmet when your mother is greeting me, it would kill the mood

They also shot up a house 10 doors from me. I think they pretended they got the wrong house but were afraid to do mine. Maybe. Either way I wasn’t taking chances.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 06:09:25 AM
a blast from the past
assuming it's 300mg/ml deca, 300mg/ml eq, and 300mg test (either cyp or most likely enan); that's 10cc test, 4cc deca, and 4cc eq. 18cc total.

that's 6 shots of 3cc each. 3cc each delt, 3cc each glute, 3cc each quad total each week. not that difficult to do. I did 15 yesterday (and 2 today of 150 tren & 150 npp), and I don't carry the mass of Jason Huh or Faoud... so if I can handle 15 (hell, I used to do upwards of 30cc in a day... years ago), i'm sure guys in the 275+ range can handle quite a bit more with no problem.

and what did all this gear produce
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2019, 06:53:34 AM
Wow! We have so many bad asses on getbig, many are 6’4 and over, would give Jon Jones a run for his money

Getbiggers are not to be trifled with.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2019, 08:47:12 AM
It’s been three months since I was told I was getting my head blown off. The first weekend I was a little rattled and moved about. Then I said fuck it. Then I got myself a vest. I never leave the house without a piece. The easiest time for them to get you is getting into your car. Always know your surroundings.

You're obviously a gimmick or one seriously dumb c.unt.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 09:18:43 AM
You're obviously a gimmick or one seriously dumb c.unt.

I think its both....
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 01, 2019, 09:38:57 AM
and help someone that needs it".

Could you send me 300 hundred? ")

Well that's very Shizzo of you Joe....

Just another odd coincidence that you'd ask for money like Shizzo has....
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 01, 2019, 09:59:51 AM
I’m the shit because I’m happy, healthy, and have an awesome family.  Having those three things alone make it impossible for me to do nothing but laugh at You.

I see a lot of you here trying to make friends and fight because you’re way too invested in the gossip forum. Take a vacation somewhere. Travel to a new country, go learn something new.  Become a Big Brother and help someone that needs it. All your time invested in this? Man that’s so unfortunate and sad.

Xman,

You make a great point about giving back. With your emense wealth I'm sure you're using it to help others live their dreams. You mentioned your wife is a medical professional, helping women who have made mistakes and fixing it by eliminating their pregnancies, so we know she is giving back to the community and sowing into others.

But what about you?  Why not start here and help some in this community improve their situation?

Mentor us!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 10:03:40 AM
Xman,

You make a great point about giving back. With your emense wealth I'm sure you're using it to help others live their dreams. You mentioned your wife is a medical professional, helping women who have made mistakes and fixing it by eliminating their pregnancies, so we know she is giving back to the community and sowing into others.

But what about you?  Why not start here and help some in this community improve their situation?

Mentor us!
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/UgP8KbGmpH6ik/source.gif)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 01, 2019, 10:50:56 AM
you really should stop all this nonsense at your age and stop drinking. you seem to be another bum on a Forum making threats to everyone.

A 65 year old lifelong loser trying to act tough on an anonymous gayboy board.

Seems about right.  LOL

If Tim Westcock(swallower) was half as hard or accomplished as he claims, we would have heard about him.

My guess is that he is off the wagon and back on the booze and pills.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 11:30:22 AM
A 65 year old lifelong loser trying to act tough on an anonymous gayboy board.

Seems about right.  LOL

If Tim Westcock(swallower) was half as hard or accomplished as he claims, we would have heard about him.

My guess is that he is off the wagon and back on the booze and pills.
Your guess would be wrong asshole!

I`m known by hundreds and hundreds of people in my hometown back in Mass..............also pretty well known in bodybuilding circles for many years.

Right now I`m as high as a kite.................... ......ON LIFE THAT IS !
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 11:33:59 AM
hell, I used to do upwards of 30cc in a day... years ago

(https://i.imgur.com/Q94KGPb.gif)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 11:35:34 AM
50 pages........when I got here to expose ESF it was only 10 pages.

I`m gonna` turn him into a getbig meme !

He`ll be another pillowtalk,Pumpster,or out there somewhere snapping the spines of ferocious German Shepards with his bare hands.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 11:44:41 AM
hell, I used to do upwards of 30cc in a day... years ago

(https://i.imgur.com/Q94KGPb.gif)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)

he was definitely ahead of the times as far as filling his delts with oil
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 11:52:08 AM
fuck me, I just read some of his old posts..
used interactive brokers from 07-10.. probably 70% of my profit was from short's. mind you I was in prison at that time and trading by proxy and had to factor in telephone calls into the cost of each trade. usually 3 phone calls per day. initially each call cost me about $4 (long distance about a 7min call), but we figured out how to use Magic Jack so each call was listed as a local call so the cost of each call dropped to less than $2. total cash in the fund was initially about $80k and grew to about $200k with added investments, not counting what was borrowed from IB. I believe during that time I averaged 17% returns after transaction/commissions (ib commission, not mine) (the phone calls came out of my profit, not the funds) of that I took a percentage. I had 3 investors. a friend of mine and his sister and the friends partner (life partner, not biz partner)... tax burden fell on the sister each year.

I got out because my investors pulled out (retired and moved to Israel and wanted funds in a long term div/income account), after they pulled out the sister pulled out as well.... after that I had other stuff to deal with and didn't have the time (or money) to trade. juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
I dont' care if anybody disagrees with me, it's the disrespect that I respond poorly to (being where I've been, if you speak disrespectfully to someone, you know that that's an immediate fight... doesn't translate well here, and many guys think it's 'nothing' to be disrespectfull on here. one day somebody will talk to someone in 'real life' like they talk to people on here and that someone will be somebody like me and they won't be expecting the reaction they get)... I also don't care if anybody 'sides' with me.

and the 'stories' that people make fun of, thinking it's not true? like fighting/submission grappling in prison? happens at a lot of prisons. using a guitar string to stitch a cut? so what? guitar string is smaller and sharper than a sewing needle (which is the only alternative, other than going to the Medical office and then going to the 'hole), any boy-scout could do it. I dont' see what the big deal is... not like your using the guitar sting as thread, it's just the needle... and the '6g sweet spot'? that was referring to the common/average dosage for guys at national level npc/ifbb. not like that's a big secret that only I have access to or something.
I HAD pics. Don't forget that's before a couple moves and prison. Lost almost everything I had in storage. (Furniture, yearbooks, ex's diploma, etc...).

And the pick a you guys keep posting lol. You don't get it that beers go up and down in bodyweight? Blue shirts was trt ONLY for 5years, and underwear was Must be month or so after be I g -PARALYZED. Lol .

Funny story about the undwear pic....

I was in S.D. on a Fri night. Had a motel.gonna see my kids the next day.  Had this Filipina girl I had seen the weekend prior who just got her Masters in Family a Therapy or something, so I'm thinking she's a solid girl. Bio sex inn the first night, which is good, but she's been gallon bout it all week...

We go out to eat. My fav sushi place in SD. Sushi Deli..... She ask we if it's ok if we don't have sex. I'm think in "Wtf? This girl has been talk in bout this shit all week".. I say yea no worries..... Then she goes on and on about how she think s I'm upset blah blah blah
 Said I'm not.... Whatever.

Long story short... I take her home. Say good luck. Get back to my motel and text another girl in SD (met all these girls on plenty Of fish.com)... Meet up with her in mission beach. 5mins into walking with her down mission beach boardwalk at midnight I/we hear a huge crash and scraping metal. So I run down lol 1/2block sidewalk and come to a car accident.

Some car is on its roof with a girl hanging upsidedown crying. Yanked the door open and used my tactical knifebto cut the seatbelt, caught her so she didn't fall, and pull led her out. The girl starts flippingbout about her BFS laptop that was in thevtrunk and how he's gonna be pissed or whatever cuz its covered in antifreeze. (Trunk popped opemn).

Meanwhile the girl I was with watches all this... I'm think in I got this chic in the bag. Real boys out shit... Turns out me n her went to the same school and if dated a few of her cousins. ( she was Lao...) no sex that night. Next wknd she drives all the way up here AND brings some Magnum XL condoms from her ex bf. I said sweetheart these ain't gonna fit. She insisted on using a condom. Told her sorry that shits too small. Laid next to me all night.no sex.leaves the next morning.never saw her again. Lol
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 12:01:29 PM
I dont' care if anybody disagrees with me, it's the disrespect that I respond poorly to (being where I've been, if you speak disrespectfully to someone, you know that that's an immediate fight... doesn't translate well here, and many guys think it's 'nothing' to be disrespectfull on here. one day somebody will talk to someone in 'real life' like they talk to people on here and that someone will be somebody like me and they won't be expecting the reaction they get)... I also don't care if anybody 'sides' with me.

and the 'stories' that people make fun of, thinking it's not true? like fighting/submission grappling in prison? happens at a lot of prisons. using a guitar string to stitch a cut? so what? guitar string is smaller and sharper than a sewing needle (which is the only alternative, other than going to the Medical office and then going to the 'hole), any boy-scout could do it. I dont' see what the big deal is... not like your using the guitar sting as thread, it's just the needle... and the '6g sweet spot'? that was referring to the common/average dosage for guys at national level npc/ifbb. not like that's a big secret that only I have access to or something.


FUCKING CLASSIC !!  LOL    ;D

And some people here actually believe this morons fairy tales.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 12:02:19 PM
Next wknd she drives all the way up here AND brings some Magnum XL condoms from her ex bf. I said sweetheart these ain't gonna fit. She insisted on using a condom. Told her sorry that shits too small. Laid next to me all night.no sex.leaves the next morning.never saw her again. Lol


 ::)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 12:21:11 PM
GEEZUS.................. ......................Ho llywood couldn`t write a script this good ! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Skeletor on October 01, 2019, 12:21:42 PM
I dont' care if anybody disagrees with me, it's the disrespect that I respond poorly to (being where I've been, if you speak disrespectfully to someone, you know that that's an immediate fight... doesn't translate well here, and many guys think it's 'nothing' to be disrespectfull on here. one day somebody will talk to someone in 'real life' like they talk to people on here and that someone will be somebody like me and they won't be expecting the reaction they get)... I also don't care if anybody 'sides' with me.

and the 'stories' that people make fun of, thinking it's not true? like fighting/submission grappling in prison? happens at a lot of prisons. using a guitar string to stitch a cut? so what? guitar string is smaller and sharper than a sewing needle (which is the only alternative, other than going to the Medical office and then going to the 'hole), any boy-scout could do it. I dont' see what the big deal is... not like your using the guitar sting as thread, it's just the needle... and the '6g sweet spot'? that was referring to the common/average dosage for guys at national level npc/ifbb. not like that's a big secret that only I have access to or something.


FUCKING CLASSIC !!  LOL    ;D

And some people here actually believe this morons fairy tales.

Did he so artfully rephrase the classic "I don't take kindly to disrespect" diatribe? A fighter and a scholar!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 12:27:06 PM
Did he so artfully rephrase the classic "I don't take kindly to disrespect" diatribe? A fighter and a scholar!
That`s one version of his "disrespecrt" diatribe.

The other version is the better one because it`s even dumber !  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 12:29:09 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)

Christ,I looked better than this nitwit at 57 years of age.

With 3 months training and just a  tiny amount of gear I would wipe the floor with him at 64 years old.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 12:35:29 PM
he psoted this, it was quoted then he deleted it
Unfortunaly I did get one, driving myself to the hospital. got pulled over. told them I'm driving to the hospital and had chest pains (I did, seriously thought I was having a heart attact.) so what do I do? I do about 3 shots about 5 mins before leaving for hospital thinking "this isn't going away"... .. so anyways they pull me over and call EMS right away, measure my HR, I was serious Sinus Tachycardia hr was 242, they told me call someone and get my car, if they are not there in 20 mins, the cops will tow it.  By this time the cop was asking me questions, and said he could smell alcohol on my breath... but since I'm having cardiac trouble he let me go to the hospital... handcuffed to the stretcher.... get to the hospital, he says if they admit you, you're not going to jail, which of course they did admit me but like 30 mins had gone by before he did the breathalyzer and blew a .17, so so much time had passed and I had already had meds in me i'll use a Rising Alcohol Defense and Fight the accuracy of his breathalyzer, and THIS time get a decent lawyer....

HE didn't even arrest me for driving with a suspended licence! he did issue a pink sheet notifying me my license was NOW suspended and says I dunno who the DMV didn't tell you you're suspended before, but here it is now. Overall he was cool and let me wait as long as possible to blow.. distracted him talking about guns. I asked if he had the same sig most LE do, he said no it's a P320, I said OH, the one the military just switched to, he was surprised I knew that. told him I used to be a gun dealer and had my C&R license. asked about his clip, it looked extended, asked if that was a 20? he said hell yea! you do know your guns lol... then I bugged him to taze me for about 5-10mins and he wouldn't do it.

I asked about different LE I know (that I supply) and he knew all of them (all sheffifs) and asked to cut me a break and just give me a reckless driving I was having chest pains and you know it's been a good 30mins for any alcohol I took in would've have risin by now.. he said I wish I could... I asked can he not show up in court? I'm a "personl trainer", ask your buddies. etc.... he was friendly, but I guess what happens in court I NOV...... all in all I did't go to jail since he released me to the hospital when I stayed alllllll fucken night till 5am.

 (this was the second time that day, first time I was in the parking lot and pushing my car (electric gear problem.. fixed now) cop pulled up asked if I needed help and saw I was in distress... another sheriff pulled up and called EMS fire truck and all with ambulance... took my to hospital. that' was about 7am. discharged about

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=634922.msg8848392#msg8848392
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2019, 12:44:40 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)

Christ,I looked better than this nitwit at 57 years of age.

With 3 months training and just a  tiny amount of gear I would wipe the floor with him at 64 years old.

Isn't Eric 6'3 though?

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 01:06:57 PM
"I bugged him to taze me for about 5-10 minutes" !! LOL  ;D

What a goof.

I`d beat him down in a NY millisecond just for being so fucking dumb.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 01:08:09 PM
Isn't Eric 6'3 though?



hahaha... no, hes 14 feet tall, he just slouches
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 01, 2019, 01:18:57 PM
Well that's very Shizzo of you Joe....

Just another odd coincidence that you'd ask for money like Shizzo has....

It is, then. I think rich people wont get 'angry' to be asked for cash, since they have a lot..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 01:19:20 PM
Short or tall........he looks like pure unadulterated shit !!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 01, 2019, 02:23:42 PM
Eric, how big is this mighty penis of yours that you can't fit a Magnum XL? I've watched people fit regular condoms over their entire heads and inflate them further with their noses.

(https://i.imgur.com/GlqtMpo.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 01, 2019, 02:58:58 PM
Your guess would be wrong asshole!

I`m known by hundreds and hundreds of people in my hometown back in Mass..............also pretty well known in bodybuilding circles for many years.

Right now I`m as high as a kite.................... ......ON LIFE THAT IS !

I’m not interested in your glory hole escapades.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 03:07:57 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=533051.0;attach=562312;image)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 03:14:05 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=645111.0;attach=760271;image)

Erics arm, May 2018
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Rascal full on October 01, 2019, 03:18:49 PM
What happened to his arm?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 03:19:25 PM
What happened to his arm?

what do you think?

His bathtub brew strikes again

it looks like a 10 year old kids arm FFS
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 01, 2019, 03:39:07 PM
Eric, how big is this mighty penis of yours that you can't fit a Magnum XL? I've watched people fit regular condoms over their entire heads and inflate them further with their noses.

(https://i.imgur.com/GlqtMpo.jpg)

He was already quite impressive.  But finding out his cock is too big for magnums?  Fuck.  1000 years from now he's gonna be akin to a greek god.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 04:24:01 PM
WE`re talking getting owned here !  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 04:49:51 PM
Yes female.

Perhaps, but definitely not a classy lady.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 04:52:18 PM
I haven`t attended an AA or an NA meeting in about 16 years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the gym was my solace and competing is what I was doing.

You have the right to think I still drink but unlike you if I truly was,I would admit it.

My sobriety means more to me than ANYTHING in the entire world and I mean ANYTHING !

Excellent!  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 04:54:24 PM
Thanks Prime!!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 04:55:48 PM
I’m the shit because I’m happy, healthy, and have an awesome family.  Having those three things alone make it impossible for me to do nothing but laugh at You.

I see a lot of you here trying to make friends and fight because you’re way too invested in the gossip forum. Take a vacation somewhere. Travel to a new country, go learn something new.  Become a Big Brother and help someone that needs it. All your time invested in this? Man that’s so unfortunate and sad.

This is good advice for a lot of folks here. Vacations are usually a big plus with regards to keeping everything in perspective.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 01, 2019, 04:57:57 PM
He was already quite impressive.  But finding out his cock is too big for magnums?  Fuck.  1000 years from now he's gonna be akin to a greek god.
They'll have to use a fucking palm tree to cover his knob when they build a statue of him. A fig leaf just won't cut it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 04:58:11 PM
I am and for 12-13 years. I probably avg 1 post a day.

Provides cheap entertainment on the go.

On that note I’m heading to the airport, in acquisition mode boys. I’ll be at 114 W 40th st in NY all day today and tomorrow. If big Dave or any other degenerates want to meet by the monkey bars lol.

This puts you about 3,000 miles away. Guess I'll have to pass. Too bad because I used to pretty good on the monkey bars.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
so every day you post, maybe take a couple weeks off and spend some quality time with the family instead of checking in every day, it only took 10 mins for you to respond to my post..slack day?

and hows it feel to be the most insecure person on getbig?
all the talk of successs and nice cars, flash watches, flying around the world, ripped big and shredded,  all superficial things to mask the frightened little boy that simply wont go away.

Talking oneself up is like a right of passage on Getbig. Nobody takes it seriously.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 05:02:16 PM
It’s been three months since I was told I was getting my head blown off. The first weekend I was a little rattled and moved about. Then I said fuck it. Then I got myself a vest. I never leave the house without a piece. The easiest time for them to get you is getting into your car. Always know your surroundings.

What a life - what a life!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 01, 2019, 05:04:14 PM
Prime, will you please learn to use the multiquote function and

Fuck

(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/11pP44O1PcjgUE/giphy.gif)

Off!!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 05:07:43 PM
Next wknd she drives all the way up here AND brings some Magnum XL condoms from her ex bf. I said sweetheart these ain't gonna fit. She insisted on using a condom. Told her sorry that shits too small. Laid next to me all night.no sex.leaves the next morning.never saw her again. Lol


 ::)

Are you quoting someone?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 05:13:26 PM
It is, then. I think rich people wont get 'angry' to be asked for cash, since they have a lot..

You neglected to reason why it is rich people have so much. It is because they don't part with what hey have easily. BTW, truly wealthy folks never carry cash.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 05:22:00 PM
He was already quite impressive.  But finding out his cock is too big for magnums?  Fuck.  1000 years from now he's gonna be akin to a greek god.

Not being an expert on condoms, I did a little research. Here's what I discovered. I found it odd the the Magnum XL is only 2" wide. Does XL mean extra long and not extra large ?

Magnums measure 8.12 inches long with a width of 2.12 inches. By comparison, Trojan’s standard ENZ condom measures 7.62 inches long and 2 inches wide.

Then, there’s Magnum’s even longer big brother, the Magnum XL, which measures 8.37 inches long and 2 inches wide.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
Prime, will you please learn to use the multiquote function and

Fuck

(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/11pP44O1PcjgUE/giphy.gif)

Off!!


I know how to use it. I prefer not to use it. If you don't like my reply style, don't follow it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 01, 2019, 06:05:00 PM
Not being an expert on condoms, I did a little research. Here's what I discovered. I found it odd the the Magnum XL is only 2" wide. Does XL mean extra long and not extra large ?

Magnums measure 8.12 inches long with a width of 2.12 inches. By comparison, Trojan’s standard ENZ condom measures 7.62 inches long and 2 inches wide.

Then, there’s Magnum’s even longer big brother, the Magnum XL, which measures 8.37 inches long and 2 inches wide.


Can only imagine what your google search history comprises.  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 06:09:41 PM
Can only imagine what your google search history comprises.  :)

It is nice to know you are so interested in my Internet search history. Be careful though because imaginations are tricky in that they have almost no connection with the truth.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 01, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
It is nice to know you are so interested in my Internet search history. Be careful though because imaginations are tricky in that they have almost no connection with the truth.

Mines no picnic either.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 01, 2019, 06:18:00 PM
what do you think?

His bathtub brew strikes again

it looks like a 10 year old kids arm FFS

More like injectable b12 I picked up I Mexico a few yrs ago.

Obviously off cycle and untrained for quite some time in that pic.

You'd have to be Mentally Ill to believe I was on "6grams" in any of those pics. 1 Pic is from just a few weeks after getting out of the hospital with thyrotoxic periodic paralysis, waking up at 1 a.m. paralyzed from the chest down after dropping 60 + pounds over the course of nine months from using what I thought was t4 but was actually more like 200 micrograms a day of t3.

Another pic was with a fucking webcam about a week after being released from prison and using nothing more than Dr prescribed 200mg cyp every 2 wks for almost 6yrs. Was on HRT for about a year prior to prison. 6 months in county jail they gave 2.5mg/day patches and switched back to test cyp injections once in prison.

I'm not surprised an adult with autism would expect people to believe THEY knew what I was on in the pics
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 06:20:55 PM
More sicknesses and maladys than anyone on the fucking planet,

You look liked shit.....I hope this helps!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 06:22:26 PM
Mines no picnic either.

Maybe we could get together for high tea sometime soon and have a sharing of ideas regarding Internet searches and the subsequent results. Grinder is off limits though.  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 01, 2019, 06:26:33 PM
Eric, how big is this mighty penis of yours that you can't fit a Magnum XL? I've watched people fit regular condoms over their entire heads and inflate them further with their noses.

(https://i.imgur.com/GlqtMpo.jpg)

8. Has nothing to do with how big they blow up, it's the bottom/base part that strangles the fuck outta me and kills any kind of hard on. Even with Cialis and Viagra. I've only had 1 girl say "no condom, no sex", so it was no sex and she drove back to San Diego the next morning. Apparently there's other brands that are bigger at the base but I've only seen them online.

Hope this helps.

I find it odd that you'd ask another man on a bbing forum such a question.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 06:35:29 PM
8. Has nothing to do with how big they blow up, it's the bottom/base part that strangles the fuck outta me and kills any kind of hard on. Even with Cialis and Viagra. I've only had 1 girl say "no condom, no sex", so it was no sex and she drove back to San Diego the next morning. Apparently there's other brands that are bigger at the base but I've only seen them online.

Hope this helps.

I find it odd that you'd ask another man on a bbing forum such a question.
Nikka stop lying we know they call you Petey Wheatstraw!  
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 06:36:10 PM
8. Has nothing to do with how big they blow up, it's the bottom/base part that strangles the fuck outta me and kills any kind of hard on. Even with Cialis and Viagra. I've only had 1 girl say "no condom, no sex", so it was no sex and she drove back to San Diego the next morning. Apparently there's other brands that are bigger at the base but I've only seen them online.

Hope this helps.

I find it odd that you'd ask another man on a bbing forum such a question.

It's not that odd. Ever hear about penis envy?

Despite my lying claim of ignorance regarding condoms. I've had experience with them tearing while trying to put them on. This is really annoying and can have a way of ruining the moment, unless you both say 'fuck it' and just go raw (which isn't real smart).
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 06:50:03 PM
Hey Prime,you are homoing up this  thread budddy.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 01, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
Perhaps, but definitely not a classy lady.

What would you know about classy women?

You left your wife on her deathbed, while you lied and snuck out of the house to go suck stranger dick down at the local YMCA.

You wouldn’t know class if it fell out of your Tim Westcock blowup doll.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 01, 2019, 07:07:05 PM
What would you know about classy women?

You left your wife on her deathbed, while you lied and snuck out of the house to go suck stranger dick down at the local YMCA.

You wouldn’t know class if it fell out of your Tim Westcock blowup doll.


PLEASE say this isn’t true.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 01, 2019, 07:16:58 PM

PLEASE say this isn’t true.

It is 100% true.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 01, 2019, 07:36:10 PM
Maybe we could get together for high tea sometime soon and have a sharing of ideas regarding Internet searches and the subsequent results. Grinder is off limits though.  ;D

If you ever return to the place of your birth/early childhood, let me know.  I'd be more than happy to break bread with you.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 01, 2019, 07:53:23 PM
Hey Prime,you are homoing up this  thread budddy.

Lmao. Dying.

So fucking gay
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 01, 2019, 07:54:49 PM
8. Has nothing to do with how big they blow up, it's the bottom/base part that strangles the fuck outta me and kills any kind of hard on. Even with Cialis and Viagra. I've only had 1 girl say "no condom, no sex", so it was no sex and she drove back to San Diego the next morning. Apparently there's other brands that are bigger at the base but I've only seen them online.

Hope this helps.

I find it odd that you'd ask another man on a bbing forum such a question.

This can’t be a real person. Wes you’re a dick for picking on retarded kids like this. He’s clearly not right.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 01, 2019, 07:58:41 PM
This can’t be a real person. Wes you’re a dick for picking on retarded kids like this. He’s clearly not right.

Tread lightly money bags.  Disrespect is something not tolerated.  Not in person.  Not in the ER.  Not in Starbucks.  Not on the interwebs.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 01, 2019, 08:11:27 PM
Did one of Eric’s posts have a claim of him trading stock from inside prison??
Eric - please educate me on the market.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 01, 2019, 08:17:59 PM
It is 100% true.



That’s really disgusting and hard to believe. Not at all calling you a liar - I obviously have no clue. It’s just hard to imagine lying to a terminal wife and doing it to be with a MAN ????
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 01, 2019, 08:38:17 PM
That’s really disgusting and hard to believe. Not at all calling you a liar - I obviously have no clue. It’s just hard to imagine lying to a terminal wife and doing it to be with a MAN ????


-Interesting theory. I am bisexual and I was an only child.

He’s here trolling for cock at least 8 hours a day.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 09:05:27 PM
This can’t be a real person. Wes you’re a dick for picking on retarded kids like this. He’s clearly not right.
I told you that bud !   LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 09:08:10 PM
What would you know about classy women?

You left your wife on her deathbed, while you lied and snuck out of the house to go suck stranger dick down at the local YMCA.

You wouldn’t know class if it fell out of your Tim Westcock blowup doll.
This is so wrong on so many fucking levels.

JANIE,you`re a piece of shit.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 01, 2019, 09:34:07 PM
I told you that bud !   LOL  ;D


I kind of feel bad now - Eric being a retard completely explains everything. Seeing the post where he made stock trades from prison - and profited!! - really drove home just how ridiculous this is.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 01, 2019, 09:41:50 PM


I kind of feel bad now - Eric being a retard completely explains everything. Seeing the post where he made stock trades from prison - and profited!! - really drove home just how ridiculous this is.
His only redeeming factor is that his gear use was very minimal !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 10:28:46 PM
More like injectable b12 I picked up I Mexico a few yrs ago.

Obviously off cycle and untrained for quite some time in that pic.

You'd have to be Mentally Ill to believe I was on "6grams" in any of those pics. 1 Pic is from just a few weeks after getting out of the hospital with thyrotoxic periodic paralysis, waking up at 1 a.m. paralyzed from the chest down after dropping 60 + pounds over the course of nine months from using what I thought was t4 but was actually more like 200 micrograms a day of t3.

Another pic was with a fucking webcam about a week after being released from prison and using nothing more than Dr prescribed 200mg cyp every 2 wks for almost 6yrs. Was on HRT for about a year prior to prison. 6 months in county jail they gave 2.5mg/day patches and switched back to test cyp injections once in prison.

I'm not surprised an adult with autism would expect people to believe THEY knew what I was on in the pics

that photo was May last year...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2019, 11:00:46 PM
What would you know about classy women?

You left your wife on her deathbed, while you lied and snuck out of the house to go suck stranger dick down at the local YMCA.

You wouldn’t know class if it fell out of your Tim Westcock blowup doll.

You are just too funny!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 01:31:47 AM
Did one of Eric’s posts have a claim of him trading stock from inside prison??
Eric - please educate me on the market.

Was during the crash. 07-10.

Was lucky enough to be housed in what was a former University campus, complete with university library. I worked for the states Historical Society and archive unit, which was located in the library, so I had access to all the textbooks I wanted on finance, accounting, etc...

Most of the people I associated with were "white.collsr" guys. Insurance agents, etc... Was friends with a guy who was also Interested in the "stock market" but he had more long term Investment Interests and didn't have the stomach for short term trades.he was my source for Investors Business Daily (IBD) & the Wall Street Journal. I convinced him to have his sister open an account with Interactive Brokers, which at the time had the best margins and lowest commissions per trade. He, his partner and his sister all put cash into the account. I'd be up early watching CNBC before breakfast (5am or so) and before going to work, then watching again during lunch, and after work.... Pretty much all day long. Everyday I'd call his sister and tell her what to buy (market orders/limit.orders etc...), what to sell, what to short and when to cover the shorts. She lived in a neighboring state so I had to take into account the cost of each phone call into the profit/,loss of each trade. Eventually I figured out she could get a "Magic Jack" as a phone line and get the area code as being a local #, cutting that cost by 75+%.

Ran that thing like a mini-hedgefund and operated as a proprietary Equity trader. Kept me busy and looked forward to every day. My bunk was covered in ticker-symbols and prices and well as dozens of notebooks full of notes.

Had I not had a felony, and could go back 19+yrs, I'd go back to school for finance/(macro)economics.

Running a "store" (lending commissary items plus "juice"(interest), as well as hard-money lending ("loan sharking") in prison is a study in economics. You're dealing with a micro-economy.

I dont know what else you want to know
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 01:34:40 AM
that photo was May last year...

And? What's your point retard?

Bottles of B12 in Cancun were like $4 each. You think I'm gonna bring back justn1 or 2?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 02:33:33 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=533051.0;attach=562312;image)

I forgot that I made this one! LOL   ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 02, 2019, 02:44:56 AM
This is so wrong on so many fucking levels.

JANIE,you`re a piece of shit.

Hahaha, the blow up doll part was great.

8. Has nothing to do with how big they blow up, it's the bottom/base part that strangles the fuck outta me and kills any kind of hard on. Even with Cialis and Viagra. I've only had 1 girl say "no condom, no sex", so it was no sex and she drove back to San Diego the next morning. Apparently there's other brands that are bigger at the base but I've only seen them online.

Hope this helps.

I find it odd that you'd ask another man on a bbing forum such a question.

Granted, not the most dignified question to be asking, but it's hardly incongruous with a bodybuilding forum featuring a plastic-chinned, penis-puffing pensioner turning up in every thread to turn the 'gay' up to 11. He'll be asking for proof soon. To continue the crudeness, a normal-sized condom fits over knobs bigger than yours; your story doesn't make any sense but let's just take that as a given.

I'm not making fun of you, Eric, but have you ever been diagnosed with any sort of brain abnormality from your drug-using days? Narcissistic Personality Disorder or anything like that? What was that giant scar on your head from?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 02, 2019, 03:21:42 AM
Was during the crash. 07-10.

Was lucky enough to be housed in what was a former University campus, complete with university library. I worked for the states Historical Society and archive unit, which was located in the library, so I had access to all the textbooks I wanted on finance, accounting, etc...

Most of the people I associated with were "white.collsr" guys. Insurance agents, etc... Was friends with a guy who was also Interested in the "stock market" but he had more long term Investment Interests and didn't have the stomach for short term trades.he was my source for Investors Business Daily (IBD) & the Wall Street Journal. I convinced him to have his sister open an account with Interactive Brokers, which at the time had the best margins and lowest commissions per trade. He, his partner and his sister all put cash into the account. I'd be up early watching CNBC before breakfast (5am or so) and before going to work, then watching again during lunch, and after work.... Pretty much all day long. Everyday I'd call his sister and tell her what to buy (market orders/limit.orders etc...), what to sell, what to short and when to cover the shorts. She lived in a neighboring state so I had to take into account the cost of each phone call into the profit/,loss of each trade. Eventually I figured out she could get a "Magic Jack" as a phone line and get the area code as being a local #, cutting that cost by 75+%.

Ran that thing like a mini-hedgefund and operated as a proprietary Equity trader. Kept me busy and looked forward to every day. My bunk was covered in ticker-symbols and prices and well as dozens of notebooks full of notes.

Had I not had a felony, and could go back 19+yrs, I'd go back to school for finance/(macro)economics.

Running a "store" (lending commissary items plus "juice"(interest), as well as hard-money lending ("loan sharking") in prison is a study in economics. You're dealing with a micro-economy.

I dont know what else you want to know

I think the buck should stop here. This is clearly not the retarded kid with the battery acid gear. Someone took over the account.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 03:24:26 AM
Hahaha, the blow up doll part was great.

Granted, not the most dignified question to be asking, but it's hardly incongruous with a bodybuilding forum featuring a plastic-chinned, penis-puffing pensioner turning up in every thread to turn the 'gay' up to 11. He'll be asking for proof soon. To continue the crudeness, a normal-sized condom fits over knobs bigger than yours; your story doesn't make any sense but let's just take that as a given.

I'm not making fun of you, Eric, but have you ever been diagnosed with any sort of brain abnormality from your drug-using days? Narcissistic Personality Disorder or anything like that? What was that giant scar on your head from?

Scar was from I was a baby. 2 months old. I was a big baby 10+lbs and late, and Dr thought my soft-spot was closing to early so they opened it back up. Nothing to do with my brain or anything. The scar is more prominent because the stitches were taken out  too early. The Dr who dis it was later sued by other parents for performing an unnecessary surgery. Has had no impact on me whatsoever. Sports, baseball, football, fighting, etc..

Far as the dick size thing, I've never claimed to have a massive dick, but im bigger than avg. 8in I said, and I can't connect my thumb and middle finger, and I'm well aware there are bigger and I really don't care. I've never been able to fit a condom, even mag XLs without the bottom part choking the fuck out of it so I've never worn one (aside from 1 time, when I took it off after maybe 2 mins). It's not like dick size is something you can control, so if I was born with a smaller dick, it'd probably be more enjoyable, as then I'd actually get the whole thing inside a.vagina or actually be able to have a.girl deepthroat a blowjob. if I could trade my dick for an avg dick (like 6"? Or whatever it is), I'd probably do it. Like I said before, there's vids (I believe 3?) Of me on pornhub (posted by a. Ex gf) so it's not like I have anything to hide.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 02, 2019, 03:40:00 AM
Scar was from I was a baby. 2 months old. I was a big baby 10+lbs and late, and Dr thought my soft-spot was closing to early so they opened it back up. Nothing to do with my brain or anything. The scar is more prominent because the stitches were taken out  too early. The Dr who dis it was later sued by other parents for performing an unnecessary surgery. Has had no impact on me whatsoever. Sports, baseball, football, fighting, etc..

Far as the dick size thing, I've never claimed to have a massive dick, but im bigger than avg. 8in I said, and I can't connect my thumb and middle finger, and I'm well aware there are bigger and I really don't care. I've never been able to fit a condom, even mag XLs without the bottom part choking the fuck out of it so I've never worn one (aside from 1 time, when I took it off after maybe 2 mins). It's not like dick size is something you can control, so if I was born with a smaller dick, it'd probably be more enjoyable, as then I'd actually get the whole thing inside a.vagina or actually be able to have a.girl deepthroat a blowjob. if I could trade my dick for an avg dick (like 6"? Or whatever it is), I'd probably do it. Like I said before, there's vids (I believe 3?) Of me on pornhub (posted by a. Ex gf) so it's not like I have anything to hide.

Fair enough. Good luck with everything.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 04:07:40 AM
Like he truly ever gets any pussy !  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 04:24:48 AM
I think the buck should stop here. This is clearly not the retarded kid with the battery acid gear. Someone took over the account.

I think "Rainman" has taken over the account
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 04:55:17 AM
I think "Rainman" has taken over the account
gh15 or Nasser !
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 02, 2019, 06:04:48 AM
Was during the crash. 07-10.

Was lucky enough to be housed in what was a former University campus, complete with university library. I worked for the states Historical Society and archive unit, which was located in the library, so I had access to all the textbooks I wanted on finance, accounting, etc...

Most of the people I associated with were "white.collsr" guys. Insurance agents, etc... Was friends with a guy who was also Interested in the "stock market" but he had more long term Investment Interests and didn't have the stomach for short term trades.he was my source for Investors Business Daily (IBD) & the Wall Street Journal. I convinced him to have his sister open an account with Interactive Brokers, which at the time had the best margins and lowest commissions per trade. He, his partner and his sister all put cash into the account. I'd be up early watching CNBC before breakfast (5am or so) and before going to work, then watching again during lunch, and after work.... Pretty much all day long. Everyday I'd call his sister and tell her what to buy (market orders/limit.orders etc...), what to sell, what to short and when to cover the shorts. She lived in a neighboring state so I had to take into account the cost of each phone call into the profit/,loss of each trade. Eventually I figured out she could get a "Magic Jack" as a phone line and get the area code as being a local #, cutting that cost by 75+%.

Ran that thing like a mini-hedgefund and operated as a proprietary Equity trader. Kept me busy and looked forward to every day. My bunk was covered in ticker-symbols and prices and well as dozens of notebooks full of notes.

Had I not had a felony, and could go back 19+yrs, I'd go back to school for finance/(macro)economics.

Running a "store" (lending commissary items plus "juice"(interest), as well as hard-money lending ("loan sharking") in prison is a study in economics. You're dealing with a micro-economy.

I dont know what else you want to know

It was a joke question retard. I have a tad bit of knowledge in this area -lol

I can tell you that you are absolutely full of shit. You maybe saw the movie “The Big Short” and maybe have read a few articles but short term trading doesn’t work “checking CNBC a few times a day” or reading periodicals. It’s a FULL TIME job - and even then it’s very difficult.

You have no clue how stupid you sound to someone who knows the subject.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 06:39:59 AM
It was a joke question retard. I have a tad bit of knowledge in this area -lol

I can tell you that you are absolutely full of shit. You maybe saw the movie “The Big Short” and maybe have read a few articles but short term trading doesn’t work “checking CNBC a few times a day” or reading periodicals. It’s a FULL TIME job - and even then it’s very difficult.

You have no clue how stupid you sound to someone who knows the subject.
x-factor seems taken in by him...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 06:51:55 AM
x-factor seems taken in by him...
Did I ever tell you that X-Factor has a very extensive and expensive collection of watches ?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Rascal full on October 02, 2019, 06:56:16 AM
It was a joke question retard. I have a tad bit of knowledge in this area -lol

I can tell you that you are absolutely full of shit. You maybe saw the movie “The Big Short” and maybe have read a few articles but short term trading doesn’t work “checking CNBC a few times a day” or reading periodicals. It’s a FULL TIME job - and even then it’s very difficult.

You have no clue how stupid you sound to someone who knows the subject.

You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. Yes he can sound ok to someone who knows little about the subject but to someone clued up it sounds annoying and ridiculous. I don't dislike ESF, he brings entertainment and he knows some subjects well, just wish he would drop the know-all BS and be more humble and truthful about the things he does not know.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 02, 2019, 07:11:26 AM
Did I ever tell you that X-Factor has a very extensive and expensive collection of watches ?

Oh. If he dosent have a Rolex,  his collection is not impressive :(
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 07:22:05 AM
Did I ever tell you that X-Factor has a very extensive and expensive collection of watches ?

its to hold up his fragile ego
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 02, 2019, 07:27:33 AM
Oh. If he dosent have a Rolex,  his collection is not impressive :(

Three Lex’s two AP’s and a Hublot. Selling the Hublot soon. Not crazy about it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 02, 2019, 07:30:10 AM
Three Lex’s two AP’s and a Hublot. Selling the Hublot soon. Not crazy about it.

Wooow. Now were talking.

Do you have the Oyster Perpetual Daytona?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 02, 2019, 07:32:00 AM
its to hold up his fragile ego

You’re very interested in me. Thanks for thinking of me so much. Don’t care who you are and never will
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 02, 2019, 08:05:22 AM
You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. Yes he can sound ok to someone who knows little about the subject but to someone clued up it sounds annoying and ridiculous. I don't dislike ESF, he brings entertainment and he knows some subjects well, just wish he would drop the know-all BS and be more humble and truthful about the things he does not know.

Right - I really don’t care one way or the other about the guy. He just sounds so stupid and rather than being humble and admitting that he doesn’t know a fckn thing about the market - he doubles down and claims to that he consistently and successfully shorted the market from prison!! I’d love to bring this up to guys in the office - but they already think I’m a meathead!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 09:16:11 AM
You’re very interested in me. Thanks for thinking of me so much. Don’t care who you are and never will

keep up the pretence, everything will be alright...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 09:17:04 AM
Wooow. Now were talking.

Do you have the Oyster Perpetual Daytona?

he will get back to you once hes wiped the pre-cum off his cock...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 02, 2019, 09:38:59 AM
This is so wrong on so many fucking levels.

JANIE,you`re a piece of shit.

Fuck off you anorexic pillhead.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Rascal full on October 02, 2019, 10:35:51 AM
Right - I really don’t care one way or the other about the guy. He just sounds so stupid and rather than being humble and admitting that he doesn’t know a fckn thing about the market - he doubles down and claims to that he consistently and successfully shorted the market from prison!! I’d love to bring this up to guys in the office - but they already think I’m a meathead!


Haha people will think you are nutty if you even start saying some of the shit he has. Unfortunately a fool who thinks he is a genius is hard to cure so I don't see him changing.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: XFACTOR on October 02, 2019, 11:01:22 AM
keep up the pretence, everything will be alright...

Poor guy. Envy is going to eat you alive.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 12:22:45 PM
Poor guy. Envy is going to eat you alive.
thats exactly what I would expect a narcissist to say...

You believe everyone wants your life, but really , when you finally realise all those material posessions wont scratch that itch you constantly feel it will be time to ask yourself the difficult questions.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 01:56:12 PM
You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. Yes he can sound ok to someone who knows little about the subject but to someone clued up it sounds annoying and ridiculous. I don't dislike ESF, he brings entertainment and he knows some subjects well, just wish he would drop the know-all BS and be more humble and truthful about the things he does not know.
I`ve been saying this all along especially with the 120K worth of heroin he supposedly shot up.

I KNOW BETTER!!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 03:21:48 PM
It was a joke question retard. I have a tad bit of knowledge in this area -lol

I can tell you that you are absolutely full of shit. You maybe saw the movie “The Big Short” and maybe have read a few articles but short term trading doesn’t work “checking CNBC a few times a day” or reading periodicals. It’s a FULL TIME job - and even then it’s very difficult.

You have no clue how stupid you sound to someone who knows the subject.

Where did I say I "checked CNBC a few times a day"?

lol I love how you change up what I say to fit your naritive.

I'd have CNBC on nearly 24-7. I don't get how dunces like you believe things are so hard to do. How hard is it to have someone open an account with interactive brokers, or even E-Trade or Fidelity (IB had the lowest commission back then) and I make 1-2 calls/day to tell her what to buy/sell/short/etc..?? Every phonecall would cost $12-14 because it was long distance across state lines even though she lived 15mins away, switching to a "Magic jack" using a local # was something a lot of ppl did to cut the cost of phonecalls by over 50%. With Every trade I'd have to consider the cost of phone calls along with commissions coming and going. I had all day, everyday to pay attention to the market and catch the middle 3% of a 5% pop in a stock. Rarely did we hold a stock more than a day, except for high yeild dividend stocks/etfs/reits. Reason I didn't start trading again when I got out and started making enough money to open an account was precisely because I didn't have time to pay attention 24-7 & if you can't pay attention all day to what's going on, and think you're gonna turn a profit by passively trading you're just gonna passively throw away all your money.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: Marvin Martian link=topic=654647.msg9281701#msg9281701 d[b
ate=1570021488]
It was a joke question retard[/b]. I have a tad bit of knowledge in this area -lol

I can tell you that you are absolutely full of shit. You maybe saw the movie “The Big Short” and maybe have read a few articles but short term trading doesn’t work “checking CNBC a few times a day” or reading periodicals. It’s a FULL TIME job - and even then it’s very difficult.

You have no clue how stupid you sound to someone who knows the subject.

So, when you ask a question and I answered, your reply is "it's a joke question".

But if I don't reply, you claim I'm avoiding the question.

How stupid can you be?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 03:58:05 PM
Where did I say I "checked CNBC a few times a day"?

lol I love how you change up what I say to fit your naritive.

I'd have CNBC on nearly 24-7. I don't get how dunces like you believe things are so hard to do. How hard is it to have someone open an account with interactive brokers, or even E-Trade or Fidelity (IB had the lowest commission back then) and I make 1-2 calls/day to tell her what to buy/sell/short/etc..?? Every phonecall would cost $12-14 because it was long distance across state lines even though she lived 15mins away, switching to a "Magic jack" using a local # was something a lot of ppl did to cut the cost of phonecalls by over 50%. With Every trade I'd have to consider the cost of phone calls along with commissions coming and going. I had all day, everyday to pay attention to the market and catch the middle 3% of a 5% pop in a stock. Rarely did we hold a stock more than a day, except for high yeild dividend stocks/etfs/reits. Reason I didn't start trading again when I got out and started making enough money to open an account was precisely because I didn't have time to pay attention 24-7 & if you can't pay attention all day to what's going on, and think you're gonna turn a profit by passively trading you're just gonna passively throw away all your money.

sounds like you had a rough time in prison..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 04:17:31 PM
sounds like you had a rough time in prison..
Nope his punk ass was in protective custody.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2019, 04:21:17 PM
Nope his punk ass was in protective custody.

highly likely the way he throws people under the bus on here
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 04:32:54 PM
highly likely the way he throws people under the bus on here
YUP...............typical of his type.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 07:16:32 PM
sounds like you had a rough time in prison..

Prison was easy.
highly likely the way he throws people under the bus on here

People? Like the piece of shit I'd go out of my way to keep employed and still stole from me?

Nope his punk ass was in protective custody.

Nope. There was no PC where I was. PC guys were transferred to a different prison where they're housed in 2 man cells or single cells on 23hr lockdown.

How the fuck would I run a store if I was in PC? How would I have access to the weight room? Mouthy punks like you who talk about how "tuff" you think you are get laid out pretty quick and end up housed with the child molesters. Shame you never went to prison, you'd find out how much of a sissy you are. The woods would lay your punk ass out in the showers and take everything you own for being an embarrassment. You'd be housed with the "others" and blacks. Woods and Southsiders would have nothing to do with your junkie crackhead ass.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 07:34:35 PM
Prison was easy.
People? Like the piece of shit I'd go out of my way to keep employed and still stole from me?

Nope. There was no PC where I was. PC guys were transferred to a different prison where they're housed in 2 man cells or single cells on 23hr lockdown.

How the fuck would I run a store if I was in PC? How would I have access to the weight room? Mouthy punks like you who talk about how "tuff" you think you are get laid out pretty quick and end up housed with the child molesters. Shame you never went to prison, you'd find out how much of a sissy you are. The woods would lay your punk ass out in the showers and take everything you own for being an embarrassment. You'd be housed with the "others" and blacks. Woods and Southsiders would have nothing to do with your junkie crackhead ass.
What makes you think I never did time?

MY stories are true unklike your bullshit,

People here told me to delete my stuff because it made me  look bad,but it was a lot more gangster than your phony made up delusions of granduer.

Idid crime to survive as I had no choice.................. ....gotta eat and drink to live.

Truth be told,the longest period I was locked up was only 3 days.................... .....a .smooth criminal, as opposed to a mastermind like yourself who did tall time because you were just a stupid fuck ip..

Never dropped a dime on anyone, and I`ll guarantee you I did a lot more  crazy shit just in order to survive,not to be a hardass.

I come from very humble beginnings.,...shit that  would have broke your soft ass in a fucking heartbeat.

Street Marines mathrfacker and I left them laying where I found them just like I would do your dumb ass.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 07:40:59 PM
What makes you think I never did time?

MY stories are true unklike your bullshit,

People here told me to delete my stuff because it made me  look bad,but it was a lot more gangster than your phony made up delusions of granduer.

Idid crime to survive as I had no choice.................. ....gotta eat and drink to live.

Truth be told,the longest period I was locked up was only 3 days.................... .....a .smooth criminal, as opposed to a mastermind like yourself.

Never dropped a dime on anyone, and I`ll guarantee you I did a lot more  crazy shit just in order to survive,not to be a hardass.

I come from very humble beginnings.,...shit that  would have broke your soft ass in a fucking heartbeat.



Hahahahahaha "a lot more gangster"

You sound like a fucking buffoon. It's shit like that that'll get you laid out and blackballed. Nobody would store you a bag of coffee. People would throw their extra milk in the trash rather than give it to you. You'd be stuck in your bunk reading loius Lamour books.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 07:50:48 PM

Hahahahahaha "a lot more gangster"

You sound like a fucking buffoon. It's shit like that that'll get you laid out and blackballed. Nobody would store you a bag of coffee. People would throw their extra milk in the trash rather than give it to you. You'd be stuck in your bunk reading loius Lamour books.
I`m an OG from a black ghetto in the late 1960`s and 1970`s.

I was a little white guy,if you think growing up and throwing hands with dindus that were twice  my size for over 30yers was easy and made me soft,you`re a damn fool.

If I had to fight God win lose or draw the shit would be on son.

My life reads like a horror story and I`m still standing and it wasn`t because I was lucky..........I had to fend for my 2 white sisters in a ghetto where we were the only white specks ever seen there.

As far as geting laid out,I was knocked off my feet only once in,my life in a ton of fights...............onc e!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 02, 2019, 08:02:25 PM
What makes you think I never did time?

MY stories are true unklike your bullshit,

People here told me to delete my stuff because it made me  look bad,but it was a lot more gangster than your phony made up delusions of granduer.

Idid crime to survive as I had no choice.................. ....gotta eat and drink to live.

Truth be told,the longest period I was locked up was only 3 days.................... .....a .smooth criminal, as opposed to a mastermind like yourself who did tall time because you were just a stupid fuck ip..

Never dropped a dime on anyone, and I`ll guarantee you I did a lot more  crazy shit just in order to survive,not to be a hardass.

I come from very humble beginnings.,...shit that  would have broke your soft ass in a fucking heartbeat.

Street Marines mathrfacker and I left them laying where I found them just like I would do your dumb ass.


"delusions of granduer."   

That Poster, apparently, is not alive anymore. Kind of sad
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 02, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
So, when you ask a question and I answered, your reply is "it's a joke question".

But if I don't reply, you claim I'm avoiding the question.

How stupid can you be?

My point was that OBVIOUSLY I don’t need your advice in this matter. If you truly were in the know - you’d realize just how stupid you sound. You did NOT make a dollar shorting the market while in prison or EVER for that matter.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
I`m honestly not  trying to compare lives with Eric.................... ....no pissing contests intended.
 
But there was no silver spoon shoved up my ass at birth.............I had zippo and it was an uphill battle all the way.

The reason I survived was because I trained !!

People would ask me how come I competed so often in a years time.,it kept me sober,jt kept me grounded,it kept me out of the streets,gave me goals and created an identity which otherwise would have been just called a common hoodlum as opposed to being known as a bodybuilder.

I don`t hate the guy but he jumps bad too much and lies like a rug..................... he would not have made it where I come from trust me on that.

I was never a good bodybuiler,I considered myself as a sort of journeyman if you will, competing in many cities and states.................. it literally saved my life.

Now I seem to dislike it but am thinking of making a comeback just to regain the above perks that I mentioned I got from participating in it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2019, 09:09:46 PM
I`m honestly not  trying to compare lives with Eric........................no pissing contests intended.
 
But there was no silver spoon shoved up my ass at birth.............I had zippo and it was an uphill battle all the way.

The reason I survived was because I trained !!

People would ask me how come I competed so often in a years time.,it kept me sober,jt kept me grounded,it kept me out of the streets,gave me goals and created an identity which otherwise would have been just called a common hoodlum as opposed to being known as a bodybuilder.

I don`t hate the guy but he jumps bad too much and lies like a rug..................... he would not have made it where I come from trust me on that.

I was never a good bodybuiler,I considered myself as a sort of journeyman if you will, competing in many cities and states.................. it literally saved my life.

Now I seem to dislike it but am thinking of making a comeback just to regain the above perks that I mentioned I got from participating in it.

Which is exactly what you've been doing for 54pages.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 02, 2019, 09:11:55 PM
Wes - do you realize just how cruel it would be to shove a silver spoon (or really ANY kind of spoon) up a newborns ass?? And honestly - you had no business with a Zippo as a child. That’s just dangerous and I am glad you didn’t set yourself on fire.  ;D

*** not sure if this will be as funny as it sounds in my mind ***
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 02, 2019, 09:14:13 PM
Eric reminds me of this Jason Blaha kid. The guy is a sociopathic liar. Both he and Eric will NEVER admit they are wrong or come clean about their lies. It’s really twisted.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: chaos on October 02, 2019, 09:26:51 PM
I once cut the tag off of a mattress BEFORE I bought it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 09:31:29 PM
Eric,dude,I`m not comparing lives with you.

if you recall,when I entered this thread it was to expose the lie you told about shooting 120K worth of heroin.

You made it into a pissing match by claiming you were billy bad ass because you got popped and did time.

You`re own fault,not mine.

Just be truthful and you`ll garner a lot more respect not that I think respect truly matters to you as you would rather attempt to put on the tough guy facade.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 09:33:03 PM
I once cut the tag off of a mattress BEFORE I bought it.
Risky behaviour for sure bro.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 09:34:25 PM
Wes - do you realize just how cruel it would be to shove a silver spoon (or really ANY kind of spoon) up a newborns ass?? And honestly - you had no business with a Zippo as a child. That’s just dangerous and I am glad you didn’t set yourself on fire.  ;D

*** not sure if this will be as funny as it sounds in my mind ***
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 02, 2019, 09:46:44 PM
ESF what  kind of profit do you think you can turn on a 401k in this market?

If you can turn 80k into 200 you're wasting your time doing anything else.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 02, 2019, 10:00:35 PM
ESF what  kind of profit do you think you can turn on a 401k in this market?

If you can turn 80k into 200 you're wasting your time doing anything else.
He`d spend it on thousands of dollars worth of heroin.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2019, 10:02:18 PM
Is that drunken meth head still talking??
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 02, 2019, 10:34:01 PM
I once cut the tag off of a mattress BEFORE I bought it.

GTFO
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 02, 2019, 11:40:24 PM
I once cut the tag off of a mattress BEFORE I bought it.

No fckn way man!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on October 03, 2019, 12:23:32 AM
Three Lex’s two AP’s and a Hublot. Selling the Hublot soon. Not crazy about it.

Hublot is very overrated like RM imo. It’s popular with the millennials with “money”
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2019, 01:44:15 AM
ESF what  kind of profit do you think you can turn on a 401k in this market?

If you can turn 80k into 200 you're wasting your time doing anything else.

I have t paid attention to the stock market since 2011.

80k into 200k? Didn't start with 80.. started with 43-45k from all 3 ppl.

80k worth of anabolics??? I'd have to look at spreadsheets, but consider 20k flips into about 320k, retail at least. Cut that in at least half, maybe 150k if you wholesale to resellers.

When I first got into the UGL biz, I did it just to pay bills and have "just in case" money. When I started making money, I started spending money. Sushi everyday, clothes, watches, jewlery for gfs etc...

When I ran into trouble with my Tramadol script and went to what I thought was a temporary fix with diluadid, and then heroin, my account was in the 15ks, and when that started dropping to 12, then 10, and 8 etc, I panicked a lil and started moving enough stuff to fund a serious heroin addiction which ran about 8400/m, plus all my other bills. Never stole or had to sell anything to pay for "dope". Never even considered it.

If you know how to manufacture anabolics and have a good source from China, Germany, Romania, etc and produce good product and word of mouth spreads, you can do just fine. Drop an extra couple k on a "sponsorship" on a "real" board, (without the mentally ill losers who don't even train or follow bbing whatsoever like some of the paranoid bipolar autistic schizophrenic losers filling this 53page thread), and you reach a shitload more potential customers. It's not hard to clear 200k/yr running a UGL, considering it's all cash. No idea how much I made "at my peak", but I know what I'd spend.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
Eric,dude,I`m not comparing lives with you.

if you recall,when I entered this thread it was to expose the lie you told about shooting 120K worth of heroin.

You made it into a pissing match by claiming you were billy bad ass because you got popped and did time.

You`re own fault,not mine.

Just be truthful and you`ll garner a lot more respect not that I think respect truly matters to you as you would rather attempt to put on the tough guy facade.

Dude you're fucking delusional.I'm really getting kind of tired of listening to your Billy badass stories comparing yourself to me and how tough you are, how shity your childhood was an owl mean the streets world where you grew up. Dude I don't give a fuk about you. I don't think you realize what you are and what I am. You know exactly where I am and if at any time you want to meet up face-to-face and tell me how fucking mean and tough and badass you are, feel free and I'll kick your fucking teeth down the fucking sidewalk and I'll videotape the fucking shit and put it on YouTube and I'll do the fucking time just so I can park a laugh at it 5 years from now when I get out. Your a bitch. You've been a bitch since you were born your a bitch in the shity little ghetto streets and trailer parks you grew up in and your a bitch now you've been nothing but a fucking bitch your entire fucking life nobody here fucking believes your fucking sober or clean and even if you were, nobody really gives it fucking shit. It's fucking obvious your brain is fucking Swiss fucking cheese and what can ruined from years of coke and meth abuse. You're pathetic fucking 60-something whatever your old man trying to act hard on a bodybuilding message board to a 37 year old man. I would choke you until you shit yourself and pissing your face and when you woke up I'd do it again.. and again... And again.

Because you are all fucking punk bitch. Keep telling yourself that I was in protective custody in prison LOL keep telling yourself that you're fucking punk bitch. How the fuck does your wife not realize what kind of punk you really are? How does a woman wake up every morning next to a piece of shit punk pussy like you? Maybe you should hide your phone from your wife, cuz there's a good chance she's looking on your phone and looking at all the pictures of me you have saved on it from my Instagram and fantasizing about me throat fucking that fucking whore until she gags and pukes on your fucking carpet. You pencil dick sissy.

What kind of serious cocaine and meth must you have done to actually believe I wouldn't rip your fucking head off your body and kick it down the fucking sidewalk?

You're a nobody, wesley. Put down the bottle and check into rehab.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2019, 02:03:52 AM
I have t paid attention to the stock market since 2011.

80k into 200k? Didn't start with 80.. started with 43-45k from all 3 ppl.

80k worth of anabolics??? I'd have to look at spreadsheets, but consider 20k flips into about 320k, retail at least. Cut that in at least half, maybe 150k if you wholesale to resellers.

When I first got into the UGL biz, I did it just to pay bills and have "just in case" money. When I started making money, I started spending money. Sushi everyday, clothes, watches, jewlery for gfs etc...

When I ran into trouble with my Tramadol script and went to what I thought was a temporary fix with diluadid, and then heroin, my account was in the 15ks, and when that started dropping to 12, then 10, and 8 etc, I panicked a lil and started moving enough stuff to fund a serious heroin addiction which ran about 8400/m, plus all my other bills. Never stole or had to sell anything to pay for "dope". Never even considered it.

If you know how to manufacture anabolics and have a good source from China, Germany, Romania, etc and produce good product and word of mouth spreads, you can do just fine. Drop an extra couple k on a "sponsorship" on a "real" board, (without the mentally ill losers who don't even train or follow bbing whatsoever like some of the paranoid bipolar autistic schizophrenic losers filling this 53page thread), and you reach a shitload more potential customers. It's not hard to clear 200k/yr running a UGL, considering it's all cash. No idea how much I made "at my peak", but I know what I'd spend.

how can you run into trouble with medication you have always claimed doesnt affect you?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 02:06:50 AM
BoyI`d beat your fucking head in and leave you where you lay.

Like 37 means shit to me   been there,done that..............been in great shape all my life.

If  I let a bitch like you kick my ass I`d committ suicide.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 02:08:44 AM
When I ran into trouble with my Tramadol script and went to what I thought was a temporary fix with diluadid, and then heroin

FUCKING CLASSIC !!  LOL  :D

Friggin` idiot!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2019, 02:10:09 AM
When I ran into trouble with my Tramadol script and went to what I thought was a temporary fix with diluadid, and then heroin

FUCKING CLASSIC !!  LOL  :D

Friggin` idiot!

been claiming for years opiates dont affect him now all of a sudden is addicted to Tramadol
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 02:13:07 AM
Shit he barely got high on 120K worth of black tar heroin.

He did nod out once for about 2 seconds or so though so it must have been some killer dope.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2019, 02:27:13 AM
been claiming for years opiates dont affect him now all of a sudden is addicted to Tramadol


Eh, I realize you have a mental illness and mental retardation, me running out of Tramadol was the reason I started heroin fucking years ago in twenty fucking 14 you fucking retard
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 03, 2019, 06:16:16 AM
Dude you're fucking delusional.I'm really getting kind of tired of listening to your Billy badass stories comparing yourself to me and how tough you are, how shity your childhood was an owl mean the streets world where you grew up. Dude I don't give a fuk about you. I don't think you realize what you are and what I am. You know exactly where I am and if at any time you want to meet up face-to-face and tell me how fucking mean and tough and badass you are, feel free and I'll kick your fucking teeth down the fucking sidewalk and I'll videotape the fucking shit and put it on YouTube and I'll do the fucking time just so I can park a laugh at it 5 years from now when I get out. Your a bitch. You've been a bitch since you were born your a bitch in the shity little ghetto streets and trailer parks you grew up in and your a bitch now you've been nothing but a fucking bitch your entire fucking life nobody here fucking believes your fucking sober or clean and even if you were, nobody really gives it fucking shit. It's fucking obvious your brain is fucking Swiss fucking cheese and what can ruined from years of coke and meth abuse. You're pathetic fucking 60-something whatever your old man trying to act hard on a bodybuilding message board to a 37 year old man. I would choke you until you shit yourself and pissing your face and when you woke up I'd do it again.. and again... And again.

Because you are all fucking punk bitch. Keep telling yourself that I was in protective custody in prison LOL keep telling yourself that you're fucking punk bitch. How the fuck does your wife not realize what kind of punk you really are? How does a woman wake up every morning next to a piece of shit punk pussy like you? Maybe you should hide your phone from your wife, cuz there's a good chance she's looking on your phone and looking at all the pictures of me you have saved on it from my Instagram and fantasizing about me throat fucking that fucking whore until she gags and pukes on your fucking carpet. You pencil dick sissy.

What kind of serious cocaine and meth must you have done to actually believe I wouldn't rip your fucking head off your body and kick it down the fucking sidewalk?

You're a nobody, wesley. Put down the bottle and check into rehab.


Oh shut up, we're only extending the life of this thread so you can continue to be a long running joke.  Truth is that nobody believes anything that comes out of your lips.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 06:54:29 AM
How come Vince never made a video about Eric, yet?

At this point, he is waaaay more relevant than Genova
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2019, 07:20:00 AM
Eh, I realize you have a mental illness and mental retardation, me running out of Tramadol was the reason I started heroin fucking years ago in twenty fucking 14 you fucking retard
you mised the point, running out of tramadol shouldnt be a problem if they dont affect you should it?

Or are you now saying that opiates do affect you contrary to very other fucking time you wrote about them
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 03, 2019, 07:53:57 AM
How come Vince never made a video about Eric, yet?

At this point, he is waaaay more relevant than Genova


He is a nobody..a loser...filth...liar...e tc.  Not worth the time
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 08:18:53 AM

He is a nobody..a loser...filth...liar...e tc.  Not worth the time

Im not trying to be an ass, but isn't Genova all the above, as well?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on October 03, 2019, 08:31:29 AM
you mised the point, running out of tramadol shouldnt be a problem if they dont affect you should it?

Or are you now saying that opiates do affect you contrary to very other fucking time you wrote about them

He doesn’t know what he is saying - whatever nonsense or crap that enters his Tiny little Mind.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: DooM_ on October 03, 2019, 09:11:45 AM
why all the hate against esf . . . ?  ???
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2019, 09:14:24 AM
why all the hate against esf . . . ?  ???

no one hates him, grow up
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: DooM_ on October 03, 2019, 09:39:39 AM
no one hates him, grow up

then why are you so obsessed over him . . . ?  ???
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2019, 09:41:10 AM
then why are you so obsessed over him . . . ?  ???

Im not, Im pulling his pisser, you have been on this forum a while, are you unaware of this type of behaviour..?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2019, 09:43:05 AM
PULLING HIS PUD OF PEACE



PULLING HIS PISSER OF PISS



Make it 100 pages!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 09:57:42 AM
Kwon is back.....



"When they say I should feed my Head
 That to me was just a day in Bed".....  :(
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 11:05:01 AM
Joe V - are you that Shizz guy?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 11:16:28 AM
Joe V - are you that Shizz guy?

Yes, I also has a house up on the hills, drive an EMG coup and has a 20 inches arm.

Im the big shit....
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 03, 2019, 11:21:01 AM
Joe V - are you that Shizz guy?

Shizzo tried to come back with a gimmick account hoping no one would find out. But he exposed himself.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 11:22:59 AM
Shizzo tried to come back with a gimmick account hoping no one would find out. But he exposed himself.

Yep. I am Shizzo, the one, the only. The only guy alive in Florida that drinks and is here on this Board..

You know what? I think by now I prefer you think I am Shizzo…. No worries, Dave..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 03, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
Yep. I am Shizzo, the one, the only. The only guy alive in Florida that drinks and is here on this Board..

You know what? I think by now I prefer you think I am Shizzo…. No worries, Dave..

Are there things "Joe"?

I didn't say you were shizzo in the above post. I said shizzo exposed himself.

That said everyone knows who you are.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2019, 11:43:43 AM
What makes you think I never did time?

MY stories are true unklike your bullshit,

People here told me to delete my stuff because it made me  look bad,but it was a lot more gangster than your phony made up delusions of granduer.

Idid crime to survive as I had no choice.................. ....gotta eat and drink to live.

Truth be told,the longest period I was locked up was only 3 days.................... .....a .smooth criminal, as opposed to a mastermind like yourself who did tall time because you were just a stupid fuck ip..

Never dropped a dime on anyone, and I`ll guarantee you I did a lot more  crazy shit just in order to survive,not to be a hardass.

I come from very humble beginnings.,...shit that  would have broke your soft ass in a fucking heartbeat.

Street Marines mathrfacker and I left them laying where I found them just like I would do your dumb ass.



You and EZF talk like prison is a right of passage. I don't get it.

The one time I was in jail, my stay lasted less then 8 hours. My cell mate was going through heroin withdrawal. Santa Monica city jail isn't prison. But, that horrendous experience was more than enough to know that never again would I let this happen. I was eighteen at the time.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 12:04:08 PM
Are there things "Joe"?

I didn't say you were shizzo in the above post. I said shizzo exposed himself.

That said everyone knows who you are.

Thank You, hopefully everyone will drop by and gimme a 100 bucks, then. Get Big support :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 12:05:35 PM
Yep. I am Shizzo, the one, the only. The only guy alive in Florida that drinks and is here on this Board..

You know what? I think by now I prefer you think I am Shizzo…. No worries, Dave..

I was just asking man. If you aren’t him I totally understand why you would want to distinguish yourself. I saw a pic of the guy and it’s embarrassing how pathetic he looked. If you aren’t him I definitely apologize for even asking.  
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 12:06:49 PM
Thank You, hopefully everyone will drop by and gimme a 100 bucks, then. Get Big support :)

Are you seriously asking for handouts? Please say this is a joke. A little pride is healthy.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 12:08:46 PM
I was just asking man. If you aren’t him I totally understand why you would want to distinguish yourself. I saw a pic of the guy and it’s embarrassing how pathetic he looked. If you aren’t him I definitely apologize for even asking.  

You dont have to apologize, Marvin. Life is way more complicated than an internet forum.

My time in here calling people out or trolling is long gone. Karma hits in real life.

Maybe I am a Pathetic figure, and its not everyone's fault, but my own. :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 12:10:19 PM
Are you seriously asking for handouts? Please say this is a joke. A little pride is healthy.

Warren will tax the multimillionaires pretty soon, start getting use to people asking for handouts...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 03, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
Is that drunken meth head still talking??

Yes, scrawny little brain dead Timmy Westcock-Lover is still posting.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 01:08:33 PM

You and EZF talk like prison is a right of passage. I don't get it.

The one time I was in jail, my stay lasted less then 8 hours. My cell mate was going through heroin withdrawal. Santa Monica city jail isn't prison. But, that horrendous experience was more than enough to know that never again would I let this happen. I was eighteen at the time.
I was locked up for 3 days Prime and that was only because it was a long holiday weekend.

It was not prison it was at the local PD..................... GEEZUS buddy get a clue.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 01:35:04 PM
Yes, scrawny little brain dead Timmy Westcock-Lover is still posting.
Eat me fuckface...........errrr nevermind you might enjoy yourself too much and Iwouldn`t want that at all.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 01:42:04 PM
You dont have to apologize, Marvin. Life is way more complicated than an internet forum.

My time in here calling people out or trolling is long gone. Karma hits in real life.

Maybe I am a Pathetic figure, and its not everyone's fault, but my own. :)

So are you saying that you ARE Shizz? I am confused man.  If so I apologize for saying you look pathetic. I guess I just don’t understand why people who aren’t into keeping in the best shape possible - would follow bodybuilding. It’s not like football / baseball etc...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 01:45:13 PM
Warren will tax the multimillionaires pretty soon, start getting use to people asking for handouts...

I hope you are wrong. It’s really a sick thought that people would rather get gifts than earn their own. It’s a sign of how weak we have become.
I seriously doubt Warren has a chance in hell of becoming President - but my god that is a scary thought.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 01:47:56 PM
So are you saying that you ARE Shizz? I am confused man.  If so I apologize for saying you look pathetic. I guess I just don’t understand why people who aren’t into keeping in the best shape possible - would follow bodybuilding. It’s not like football / baseball etc...

I said 100 times that im not, but if you still think I am Shizzo, thats fine....

You prolly think ESF is Pablo Escobar or Coach is Big Ramy or Wes is, I dont know, a sad person that had a terrible upbringing, but it doesn't matter in the end..

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2019, 01:49:16 PM
ERIC = KING OF KINGS
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 01:51:54 PM
I said 100 times that im not, but if you still think I am Shizzo, thats fine....

You prolly think ESF is Pablo Escobar or Coach is Big Ramy or Wes is, I dont know, a sad person that had a terrible upbringing, but it doesn't matter in the end..



Dude you responded “maybe I am pathetic” to my question. Ok - so you aren’t that obese dude - that’s a good thing! You have to admit that picture is hilarious - so it’s understandable to ask and make sure it’s not you.  
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 01:55:19 PM
Dude you responded “maybe I am pathetic” to my question. Ok - so you aren’t that obese dude - that’s a good thing! You have to admit that picture is hilarious - so it’s understandable to ask and make sure it’s not you.  

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on October 03, 2019, 01:58:45 PM
If anyone ever ended up in the Deadpool I hope it would be shizzo
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 02:01:21 PM
PULLING HIS PUD OF PEACE



PULLING HIS PISSER OF PISS



Make it 100 pages!
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 02:03:08 PM


That’s horrible - but honestly the pic of that Shizz dude was just about as bad. Once you get to a certain point (morbidly obese) it doesn’t really matter. Both are morbidly obese.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 02:04:05 PM
If anyone ever ended up in the Deadpool I hope it would be shizzo

What all did he do that was so bad?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 02:21:49 PM
That’s horrible - but honestly the pic of that Shizz dude was just about as bad. Once you get to a certain point (morbidly obese) it doesn’t really matter. Both are morbidly obese.

Once you get to a certain point of faggotry, it also dosent matter, right!?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 02:33:34 PM
Once you get to a certain point of faggotry, it also dosent matter, right!?

Ya lost me man. I am talking about them both being morbidly obese. Is Shizz gay? I heard he did some gay stuff but thought people were just saying that to fck with him.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on October 03, 2019, 02:39:45 PM
What all did he do that was so bad?

Faked his own death is more than enough to have it happen in real life
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 02:42:14 PM
Faked his own death is more than enough to have it happen in real life

How the hell do you fake death online? And WHY? That’s a bizarre thing -  ???
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 03, 2019, 02:47:09 PM
I said 100 times that im not, but if you still think I am Shizzo, thats fine....

You prolly think ESF is Pablo Escobar or Coach is Big Ramy or Wes is, I dont know, a sad person that had a terrible upbringing, but it doesn't matter in the end..



LOL you're comparing people with zero similarities to your situation.

You've literally stolen the shizzo style: posting weird drunken bs, asking for handouts are two of the most recent examples then get upset you're compared to him.

You've lied constantly about your age, upbringing and where you grew up BUT its so offensive you're compared to someone else you dont even know. Because you're telling the truth.

You're a joke.

If it's so important to prove youre not shizzo then do it. Post a pic holding a sign that says JOE V, you can even blur out your face because it doesnt matter what you look like, shizzo is bald with a very distinct body type. Its only a problem if you're "ironically" bald and oddly shaped.

You could even have someone else hold the sign and really own me!

Own me bro!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on October 03, 2019, 03:01:13 PM
How the hell do you fake death online? And WHY? That’s a bizarre thing -  ???

Other getbiggers know more of the details

Shizzo fakes his own death in a car accident while groink fakes a car accident  ::)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 03:15:03 PM
I might have to bow out of this thread before I get locked up.

Got a few PM`s from my biggest fan and he`s having the meltdown of the century................I`m living in his head rent free.

I`d go into detail but I`m not a rat type of guy but I will say that he said he hopes my wife gets raped very soon.

As some here know,I have to get a lung cancer screening test done very soon.................... .............I`m hoping I don`t have cancer of course,but if I do,then someone else is going down with me as I`ll have veritably nothing to lose.

My wife is a great and very kind person and this type of shit is how miutherfackers get shot.

I don`t wanna go any further because we`ve both talked enough shit on the internet,and after all it IS only the internet.............wor ds on a screen.................. ...if it spills into real life,I got no qualms or fears to do what I fee lis imperative to do.

I`m also one of those tough punks who doesn`t take kindly to disrespect,even in a Wal Mart or a gas station ,or a movie theater, or at an ice cream stand,or at church,etc.etc.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Skeletor on October 03, 2019, 03:18:26 PM
I might have to bow out of this thread before I get locked up.

Got a few PM`s from my biggest fan and he`s having the meltdown of the century................I`m living in his head rent free.

I`d go into detail but I`m not a rat type of guy but I will say that he said he hopes my wife gets raped very soon.

As some here know,I have to get a lung cancer screening test done very soon.................... .............I`m hoping I don`t have cancer of course,but if I do,then someone else is going down with me as I`ll have veritably nothing to lose.

My wife is a great and very kind person and this type of shit is how miutherfackers get shot.

I don`t wanna go any further because we`ve both talked enough shit on the internet,and after all it IS only the internet.............wor ds on a screen.................. ...if it spills into real life,I got no qualms or fears to do what I fee lis imperative to do.

I`m also one of those tough punks who doesn`t take kindly to disrespect,even in a Wal Mart or a gas station ,or a movie theater, or at an ice cream stand,or at church,etc.etc.  LOL  ;D

 :o
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Hulkotron on October 03, 2019, 03:19:27 PM
Why is this thread 56 pages?  Can there be a summary?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 03:22:42 PM
Why is this thread 56 pages?  Can there be a summary?
ESF is a complete liar and teller of ridicculous tall tales.............got called out on his bullshit.

That about sums it up.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Rascal full on October 03, 2019, 03:23:45 PM
I might have to bow out of this thread before I get locked up.

Got a few PM`s from my biggest fan and he`s having the meltdown of the century................I`m living in his head rent free.

I`d go into detail but I`m not a rat type of guy but I will say that he said he hopes my wife gets raped very soon.

As some here know,I have to get a lung cancer screening test done very soon.................... .............I`m hoping I don`t have cancer of course,but if I do,then someone else is going down with me as I`ll have veritably nothing to lose.

My wife is a great and very kind person and this type of shit is how miutherfackers get shot.

I don`t wanna go any further because we`ve both talked enough shit on the internet,and after all it IS only the internet.............wor ds on a screen.................. ...if it spills into real life,I got no qualms or fears to do what I fee lis imperative to do.

I`m also one of those tough punks who doesn`t take kindly to disrespect,even in a Wal Mart or a gas station ,or a movie theater, or at an ice cream stand,or at church,etc.etc.  LOL  ;D

Wes even if you do have lung cancer there are lots of treatments you can have. Treatments have evolved and moved on so much. Does not mean it is the end so don't be pessimistic it is vital you stay mentally strong and KNOW you can get through it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on October 03, 2019, 03:28:04 PM
I might have to bow out of this thread before I get locked up.

Got a few PM`s from my biggest fan and he`s having the meltdown of the century................I`m living in his head rent free.

I`d go into detail but I`m not a rat type of guy but I will say that he said he hopes my wife gets raped very soon.

As some here know,I have to get a lung cancer screening test done very soon.................... .............I`m hoping I don`t have cancer of course,but if I do,then someone else is going down with me as I`ll have veritably nothing to lose.

My wife is a great and very kind person and this type of shit is how miutherfackers get shot.

I don`t wanna go any further because we`ve both talked enough shit on the internet,and after all it IS only the internet.............wor ds on a screen.................. ...if it spills into real life,I got no qualms or fears to do what I fee lis imperative to do.

I`m also one of those tough punks who doesn`t take kindly to disrespect,even in a Wal Mart or a gas station ,or a movie theater, or at an ice cream stand,or at church,etc.etc.  LOL  ;D


You can always pull a craiggers Titus and burn the body in the middle of the desert, in the trunk of Xfactor’s Rolls Royce
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 03, 2019, 03:34:44 PM
ERIC = KING OF KINGS

KWON = FIST OF FISTS


(https://i.postimg.cc/jj8fZwPb/tenor.gif)

 ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 03:38:41 PM
Thanks fellas,it truly means a lot to me.......I`m trying hard to stay optomisic.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 03:44:37 PM

You can always pull a craiggers Titus and burn the body in the middle of the desert, in the trunk of Xfactor’s Rolls Royce
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 03, 2019, 03:50:25 PM
Thanks fellas,it truly means a lot to me.......I`m trying hard to stay otomicsic.

Otomix..?  ???

(https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51b3OxWWEDL._SS300_.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2019, 04:45:37 PM
Thanks fellas,it truly means a lot to me.......I`m trying hard to stay optomisic.

Hitting the bottle and sniffing pills to cope with the lung cancer you know you already have is what you define as drunkenly spelled "optimistic"?

Maybe you shouldn't be smoking meth with that cancer?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 04:48:29 PM
Hitting the bottle and sniffing pills to cope with the lung cancer you know you already have is what you define as drunkenly spelled "optimistic"?

Maybe you shouldn't be smoking meth with that cancer?
Look holmes,if you want to call this off,I`m leaving it in your hands.

If not,then we can keep it going until we meet in person.

Don`t make me no differeance.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 04:49:49 PM
Otomix..?  ???

(https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51b3OxWWEDL._SS300_.jpg)
SorryTaffin I`m a bit drunk and popping pills bro.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2019, 04:51:59 PM
I was locked up for 3 days Prime and that was only because it was a long holiday weekend.

It was not prison it was at the local PD..................... GEEZUS buddy get a clue.

Obviously folks don't go to prison for 3 days. Eric is the prison person. I wasn't clear about that. My bad.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2019, 04:55:01 PM
I hope you are wrong. It’s really a sick thought that people would rather get gifts than earn their own. It’s a sign of how weak we have become.
I seriously doubt Warren has a chance in hell of becoming President - but my god that is a scary thought.

She's not my choice either. She is in the top 3 though. The other two are far too old....one may even drop out because of his health.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on October 03, 2019, 05:11:02 PM
I might have to bow out of this thread before I get locked up.

Got a few PM`s from my biggest fan and he`s having the meltdown of the century................I`m living in his head rent free.

I`d go into detail but I`m not a rat type of guy but I will say that he said he hopes my wife gets raped very soon.

As some here know,I have to get a lung cancer screening test done very soon.................... .............I`m hoping I don`t have cancer of course,but if I do,then someone else is going down with me as I`ll have veritably nothing to lose.

My wife is a great and very kind person and this type of shit is how miutherfackers get shot.

I don`t wanna go any further because we`ve both talked enough shit on the internet,and after all it IS only the internet.............wor ds on a screen.................. ...if it spills into real life,I got no qualms or fears to do what I fee lis imperative to do.

I`m also one of those tough punks who doesn`t take kindly to disrespect,even in a Wal Mart or a gas station ,or a movie theater, or at an ice cream stand,or at church,etc.etc.  LOL  ;D

Really !!
WTF - There are some Absolute Bottom Dwelling Pond life on Here.
Just Block the Scumbag & Concentrate On Being Positive & Staying
Strong in Mind & Body.

Ignore Him & Don’t Waste Any Energy On Him You’re Better Than Him.

👍🏻💪🏻

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2019, 05:12:25 PM
How the hell do you fake death online? And WHY? That’s a bizarre thing -  ???

Shizzo pretended he to be his brother who was posting the sad news of Shizzo's death along with a photo of a totally smashed car. I can't believe anyone fell  for it. However, A few people were really pissed off, which could mean they thought it was real for a moment. That he was known to drink probably lent some element of possible truth to the hoax. Why did he do it? Like some other folks here, he was and probably still is, an attention whore, only he was the 'biggest' one of all. Yes, it was pretty bizarre.

Later there was this rumor, or maybe he actually said that he had sucked a cock on a dare. He was not very well thought of. Apparently, he still lurks on Getbig, according to information on his profile.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
Look holmes,if you want to call this off,I`m leaving it in your hands.

If not,then we can keep it going until we meet in person.

Don`t make me no differeance.


You forget it was you who came after me, not the other way around.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 05:47:41 PM
Really !!
WTF - There are some Absolute Bottom Dwelling Pond life on Here.
Just Block the Scumbag & Concentrate On Being Positive & Staying
Strong in Mind & Body.

Ignore Him & Don’t Waste Any Energy On Him You’re Better Than Him.

👍🏻💪🏻


He was so mad he said some disgusting shit.

If anyone ever disrespected my wife in my presence,they would get the beatdown of their life.

The ball is in his court..........we stop or we continue,it`s up to him .

We all know he`s been exposed anyway.

Take care my brother!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 05:49:32 PM
You forget it was you who came after me, not the other way around.
Yes I did,I`m not apologizing either but if you want to squash this nonsense,I`m willing to extend the olive branch.

It`s strictly up to you Eric.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 06:22:24 PM
LOL you're comparing people with zero similarities to your situation.

You've literally stolen the shizzo style: posting weird drunken bs, asking for handouts are two of the most recent examples then get upset you're compared to him.

You've lied constantly about your age, upbringing and where you grew up BUT its so offensive you're compared to someone else you dont even know. Because you're telling the truth.

You're a joke.

If it's so important to prove youre not shizzo then do it. Post a pic holding a sign that says JOE V, you can even blur out your face because it doesnt matter what you look like, shizzo is bald with a very distinct body type. Its only a problem if you're "ironically" bald and oddly shaped.

You could even have someone else hold the sign and really own me!

Own me bro!

For what, your fun and giggles?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 06:30:13 PM
Shizzo pretended he to be his brother who was posting the sad news of Shizzo's death along with a photo of a totally smashed car. I can't believe anyone fell  for it. However, A few people were really pissed off, which could mean they thought it was real for a moment. That he was known to drink probably lent some element of possible truth to the hoax. Why did he do it? Like some other folks here, he was and probably still is, an attention whore, only he was the 'biggest' one of all. Yes, it was pretty bizarre.

Later there was this rumor, or maybe he actually said that he had sucked a cock on a dare. He was not very well thought of. Apparently, he still lurks on Getbig, according to information on his profile.

Ok. I am Shizzo, who faked his my own death. I also faked my own life, cause 'Dave D" hahahaha needs to know if I am Shizzo or not.

Yes, not a hot girl, but  a guy that says hes straight needs 'confirmation' if I am or not a guy that he never met in his life...

Look the type of mental illness we have on this site..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 06:34:31 PM
Shizzo - you faked your death and you are talking about OTHERS having mental illness  ???
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 06:38:09 PM
Shizzo - you faked your death and you are talking about OTHERS having mental illness  ???

Are you a Manchild or an autistic retard? I am not Shizzo.

What goes into your mind to keep saying something is not real.

Santa Claus is your father? Do you believe in Eve and Adam, as well?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 06:42:01 PM
Shizzo - you faked your death and you are talking about OTHERS having mental illness  ???

Do you suck cock and get fucked up in  the ass every day, right?

Cause if you say you dont and is straight, Ill keep calling you a homo., even if youre not a homo

Dont you realize the nonsense youre trying to perpetuate? Jeez
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 03, 2019, 06:58:33 PM
Ok. I am Shizzo, who faked his my own death. I also faked my own life, cause 'Dave D" hahahaha needs to know if I am Shizzo or not.

Yes, not a hot girl, but  a guy that says hes straight needs 'confirmation' if I am or not a guy that he never met in his life...

Look the type of mental illness we have on this site..

Hi i'm Joe V.

I'm a native of the Sunshine State (thats Florida for those who dont know) and I'm a glass half full type of guy. In fact many people think my sunny disposition is where the state gets its nickname!

I joined this site because I love bodybuilding but cant stay motivated to work out. I also enjoy lying about my age and life experiences, talking about gun reform and defending people who drink and drive.

I will harass coach and pellius and demand they provide evidence of their claims but encourage and defend ESF.

I enjoy an occasional adult beverage and will post drunk. I will gladly accept hand outs of any denomination and i'm not embarrassed to make this painfully obvious!

Besides guns my dislikes include mean people and being held accountable. I also hate being called Shizzo, I dont even know who that guy is i'm a newbie here. And I dont like the meanie Dave D, who I think is a gay because he asks me for "pics" and "to prove it". :/

Anyhow i'm glad to be here and cant wait to hear from you guys.  

Dont be shy send me a PM so we can chat!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 03, 2019, 07:00:49 PM
She's not my choice either. She is in the top 3 though. The other two are far too old....one may even drop out because of his health.

My top 3:

Bernie
Warren
Gayor Pete

But, I could enthusiastically support Biden.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 03, 2019, 07:01:43 PM
Hi i'm Joe V.

I'm a native of the Sunshine State (thats Florida for those who dont know) and I'm a glass half full type of guy. In fact many people think my sunny disposition is where the state gets its nickname!

I joined this site because I love bodybuilding but cant stay motivated to work out. I also enjoy lying about my age and life experiences, talking about gun reform and defending people who drink and drive.

I will harass coach and pellius and demand they provide evidence of their claims but encourage and defend ESF.

I enjoy an occasional adult beverage and will post drunk. I will gladly accept hand outs of any denomination and i'm not embarrassed to make this painfully obvious!

Besides guns my dislikes include mean people and being held accountable. I also hate being called Shizzo, I dont even know who that guy is i'm a newbie here. And I dont like the meanie Dave D, who I think is a gay because he asks me for "pics" and "to prove it". :/

Anyhow i'm glad to be here and cant wait to hear from you guys.  

Dont be shy send me a PM so we can chat!

"I joined this site because I like bodybuilding but cant stay motivated to work out"

 See, now youre talking some truth
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2019, 07:23:55 PM
My top 3:

Bernie
Warren
Gayor Pete

But, I could enthusiastically support Biden.

Pete Buttigieg seems like a very levelheaded and intelligent guy. He conducted himself well during the last debate. I will give my financial support for his campaign. Unfortumately, I'm not sure the American people are ready for a gay President. Kamala Harris is someone else I think is sharp as a whip. But like Buttigieg, she has attributes that folks in the U.S. aren't ready for. With her, it's a double whammy; black and female. Plus she's a strong confident woman, which will read 'bitch' to a lot of people. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 03, 2019, 07:25:13 PM
Pete Buttigieg seems like a very levelheaded and intelligent guy. He conducted himself well during the last debate. I will give my financial support for his campaign. Unfortumately, I'm not sure the American people are ready for a gay President. Kamala Harris is someone else I think is sharp as a whip. But like Buttigieg, she has attributes that folks in the U.S. aren't ready for. With her, it's a double whammy; black and female. Plus she's a strong confident woman, which will read 'bitch' to a lot of people. 

Sadly, I know that you are right.  As shocked as I was that we have had a black president I'll be doubly shocked if we ever have another one.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 07:56:14 PM
Ok. I am Shizzo, who faked his my own death. I also faked my own life, cause 'Dave D" hahahaha needs to know if I am Shizzo or not.

Yes, not a hot girl, but  a guy that says hes straight needs 'confirmation' if I am or not a guy that he never met in his life...

Look the type of mental illness we have on this site..

This is where YOU said it dumbass.

I don’t really give a shit. So you are not that disgustingly fat fck - cool. Can we at least agree that Shizzo was / is  / whatever - a morbidly obese oddball (based on the things guys say he did)? Hopefully you aren’t a fat ass too.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2019, 08:33:09 PM
This is where YOU said it dumbass.

I don’t really give a shit. So you are not that disgustingly fat fck - cool. Can we at least agree that Shizzo was / is  / whatever - a morbidly obese oddball (based on the things guys say he did)? Hopefully you aren’t a fat ass too.

Shizzo was overweight but he wasn't like a fat man in the circus. Isn't anyone with more than a 25 BMI considered obese?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Bevo on October 03, 2019, 08:40:51 PM
Pete Buttigieg seems like a very levelheaded and intelligent guy. He conducted himself well during the last debate. I will give my financial support for his campaign. Unfortumately, I'm not sure the American people are ready for a gay President. Kamala Harris is someone else I think is sharp as a whip. But like Buttigieg, she has attributes that folks in the U.S. aren't ready for. With her, it's a double whammy; black and female. Plus she's a strong confident woman, which will read 'bitch' to a lot of people. 

Kamali harris, you gotta be kidding me
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 03, 2019, 09:04:00 PM
Kamali harris, you gotta be kidding me

I can’t imagine how anyone could support Harris / Biden / Warren. I get that socialists live Bernie and I actually like Gabbard even though I disagree with many of her ideas. There will always be people who think that there should be some type of regulation on success and at the same time also think that it’s immoral to allow the lazy to die. I am 100% in support of giving people resources for the OPPORTUNITY to succeed but there should NEVER be a guaranteed equality of outcome. There is absolutely nothing immoral about allowing those who are unmotivated and aren’t willing to do whatever it takes - to starve and die. We do not owe anything to adults (other than those who TRULY aren’t capable due to legitimate handicap). In fact I think it’s immoral to compel a man to feed another man. Personally - I know I am willing to help probably far too much. I do not like to see suffering, but I would never tell another man that he was wrong for not feeling the same as I do. I CHOOSE to use money to help. But I had years and years of working multiple jobs - never taking a vacation or even time off - spending not a penny other than absolute necessity so that save and invest in my future.
If others choose not to live that way that’s fine - but if they find themselves in need I think they should sleep less - work more and do without comforts rather than expect others to be forced to help.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 03, 2019, 09:15:05 PM
Eat me fuckface...........errrr nevermind you might enjoy yourself too much and Iwouldn`t want that at all.

Tim Wescott, you are easily the most immature 65 year old bullshitter on the entire internet.

After 40 years of taking steroids you still look like a dying AIDS patient.

You have definitely deep throated hundreds of unlucky men to support your drug habit
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 09:39:23 PM
Tim Wescott, you are easily the most immature 65 year old bullshitter on the entire internet.

After 40 years of taking steroids you still look like a dying AIDS patient.

You have definitely deep throated hundreds of unlucky men to support your drug habit
You wouldn`t even say a word to me in person you`d simply run like the kunt you

The dumbest most unfunny gimmick in many many years.

Delete your account and just start over loser.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 03, 2019, 09:43:17 PM
You wouldn`t even say a word to me in person you`d simply run like the kunt you

The dumbest most unfunny gimmick in many many years.

Delete your account and just start over loser.

Tim Wescott, this doesn’t surprise me.

I am absolutely certain that you have a long history of attempting to physically abuse women.

And you’re still just a drunken, pillhead, junkie.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 10:06:18 PM
Tim Wescott, this doesn’t surprise me.

I am absolutely certain that you have a long history of attempting to physically abuse women.

And you’re still just a drunken, pillhead, junkie.
EVERYONE here knows you`re a guy just here looking for dick pics.................FAG!!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2019, 10:08:49 PM
We need 6 more pages to win my bet
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 03, 2019, 10:12:40 PM
We need 6 more pages to win my bet

This is the only good thread I've ever started.  Shouldn't I get a finders fee?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 03, 2019, 10:22:55 PM
SorryTaffin I`m a bit drunk and popping pills bro.  LOL  ;D

Me too *hic*  an i  was drunken too allday yesterday in court too...8)

Hav an good day my freind...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 10:25:56 PM
When I got into the thread it was only 10 pages long.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 10:26:56 PM
Me too *hic*  an i  was drunken too allday yesterday in court too...8)

Hav an good day my freind...
You too bud and sober the fuck up will you.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
We need 6 more pages to win my bet
Joe,what was your bet?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2019, 11:20:41 PM
Joe,what was your bet?

Look on page 32 Reply #795 right after ESF posted his Instagram links. I told Josh I bet after that it’ll go another 32 pages...lol
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 03, 2019, 11:22:45 PM
Look on page 32 Reply #795 right after ESF posted his Instagram links. I told Josh I bet after that it’ll go another 32 pages...lol
You were right bro.

Josh kills me............tell you more tomorrow.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 04, 2019, 05:09:25 AM
This is the only good thread I've ever started.  Shouldn't I get a finders fee?

You should get a bullet tbh...for other reasons. I’d shake your hand then pull you into me and headbutt you across the bridge of your snoz
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on October 04, 2019, 05:43:06 AM
You should get a bullet tbh...for other reasons. I’d shake your hand then pull you into me and headbutt you across the bridge of your snoz


 ;D 👍🏻 💪🏻

Correct Dave.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Griffith on October 04, 2019, 06:23:39 AM
You should get a bullet tbh...for other reasons. I’d shake your hand then pull you into me and headbutt you across the bridge of your snoz

Quiet you pikey gypsy.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 04, 2019, 06:24:13 AM
This is where YOU said it dumbass.

I don’t really give a shit. So you are not that disgustingly fat fck - cool. Can we at least agree that Shizzo was / is  / whatever - a morbidly obese oddball (based on the things guys say he did)? Hopefully you aren’t a fat ass too.


You just dont get it.

As I 'watch' the whole Wes Vs Eric 'drama' I keep thinking on other things, that happens outside, not inside my house.

See, in this life you either make it or not. Its an existence that revolves around money, simple as that.

As I write this lil 'meltdown', some guy keeps my money on his pocket, yes a real guy in Tampa, not a prison story, nor a cycle or a pin that went bad and got me an infection.

But, youre concerned about someone that you never and prolly will ever met is obese or not.... Ok....
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 04, 2019, 07:23:56 AM

You just dont get it.

As I 'watch' the whole Wes Vs Eric 'drama' I keep thinking on other things, that happens outside, not inside my house.

See, in this life you either make it or not. Its an existence that revolves around money, simple as that.

As I write this lil 'meltdown', some guy keeps my money on his pocket, yes a real guy in Tampa, not a prison story, nor a cycle or a pin that went bad and got me an infection.

But, youre concerned about someone that you never and prolly will ever met is obese or not.... Ok....

I’m actually not all that concerned. I have definitely come here too much lately but it’s a great distraction from having to really think.
Yes - you make it or not but if you work hard and have a good attitude the money will come. WHY does some guy keep “your money on (in?) his pocket”?  How did he GET your money? Make more.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 04, 2019, 07:35:52 AM
Quiet you pikey gypsy.

You’re still taking shit get back in your box you’re just jealous of Paddy for some reason
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 04, 2019, 07:37:36 AM
I’m actually not all that concerned. I have definitely come here too much lately but it’s a great distraction from having to really think.
Yes - you make it or not but if you work hard and have a good attitude the money will come. WHY does some guy keep “your money on (in?) his pocket”?  How did he GET your money? Make more.

A guy owes me 1500 $. Should I reconsider my take on the 'Gun subject'? LOL
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 04, 2019, 07:39:52 AM
TIM WESTCOCK AND ERIC SCOTT =
THE BEST


(https://66.media.tumblr.com/cc4ec6c8ffb86795a8aa44db852de6a7/ad848174995ead29-45/s640x960/2cdacefe3193e411516018473f429aeb05d42c7c.jpg)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/5145b6ec8fa485117113a6589a94fdf6/ad848174995ead29-2e/s640x960/03ec2d1946459c46c034d1285dcd90830dd875eb.jpg)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/e23615d58f522779de66d177ca1e2e5e/ad848174995ead29-fd/s640x960/55888e7bd9772bf7ed61666dc8712f1edc913bf3.jpg)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/aa684de0c25240a41880a74707699602/ad848174995ead29-96/s640x960/be48f20d95e1045cc34a8a36a1e1aa6686377012.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Griffith on October 04, 2019, 08:56:48 AM
You’re still taking shit get back in your box you’re just jealous of Paddy for some reason

You're an inbred gypsy who constantly spews bullshit, you pikey chav.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 04, 2019, 09:21:44 AM
You're an inbred gypsy who constantly spews bullshit, you pikey chav.

It’s true I post a lot of shit. Most of it’s true with a red herring here and there.

This much is also likely true - I’m 6’5”, good looking, rich, crazy and pull hot birds.

You live in a council estate.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 04, 2019, 09:23:01 AM
It’s true I post a lot of shit. Most of it’s true with a red herring here and there.

This much is also likely true - I’m 6’5”, good looking, rich, crazy , wear a vest in case someone tries to blow my head off and pull hot birds.

You live in a council estate.

fixed
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 04, 2019, 09:24:44 AM
fixed

I don’t wear a vest that 1 was a lie but the house and threats are real unfortunately
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 04, 2019, 09:30:19 AM
I don’t wear a vest that 1 was a lie but the house and threats are real unfortunately

Threats from whom? bike-stealing travellers or an organised paramilitary group? You should try to entice Kwon out of retirement - he's got an extensive martial arts background and an orange belt in Taekwondo.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 04, 2019, 09:36:20 AM
I don’t wear a vest that 1 was a lie but the house and threats are real unfortunately

so you have threats hanging over you and you think you are a success story?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 04, 2019, 09:58:46 AM

You just dont get it.

As I 'watch' the whole Wes Vs Eric 'drama' I keep thinking on other things, that happens outside, not inside my house.

See, in this life you either make it or not. Its an existence that revolves around money, simple as that.

As I write this lil 'meltdown', some guy keeps my money on his pocket, yes a real guy in Tampa, not a prison story, nor a cycle or a pin that went bad and got me an infection.

But, youre concerned about someone that you never and prolly will ever met is obese or not.... Ok....

Hi guys its me Joe V again.

Isn't strange people on this board make comments about other members being out of shape? I mean what kind of life do these losers have? Worried about what other members are up too..... shessh.

Grow up.

Also why does everyone challenge ESFITNESS on his stories? They all seem probable.

You know what doesn't seem realistic, Pellius training in BJJ for as long as he has. What a lying loser. If he would have sent me $1000 I would have put him in the dirt. Pathetic liar.

And why is Coach still bodybuilding?  Shouldnt he focus on other areas of life? Grow up dude.

Have a good day everyone!

And remember dont waste your time worrying about me, because frankly its really weird, lets talk about everyone else.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 04, 2019, 10:09:04 AM
Hi guys its me Joe V again.

Isn't strange people on this board make comments about other members being out of shape? I mean what kind of life do these losers have? Worried about what other members are up too..... shessh.

Grow up.

Also why does everyone challenge ESFITNESS on his stories? They all seem probable.

You know what doesn't seem realistic, Pellius training in BJJ for as long as he has. What a lying loser. If he would have sent me $1000 I would have put him in the dirt. Pathetic liar.

And why is Coach still bodybuilding?  Shouldnt he focus on other areas of life? Grow up dude.

Have a good day everyone!

And remember dont waste your time worrying about me, because frankly its really weird, lets talk about everyone else.

Dave, for an old Man, anyone over 50 is old to my eyes, you seem very concerned not only with me, but also with Eric ESF stories and 'lies'.

You have a lot of time in your hands. Dont you should spend with your children?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 04, 2019, 10:11:54 AM
By the way, im not sure if it was you or Dan 18 that had to put down his old dog and the kids were sad...

If it was yours Dog, Im truly sorry that I was sorry in the first place.. :(

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 04, 2019, 10:16:35 AM
Dave, for an old Man, anyone over 50 is old to my eyes, you seem very concerned not only with me, but also with Eric ESF stories and 'lies'.

You have a lot of time in your hands. Dont you should spend with your children?

Hi guys Joe V again.

Dave D is a creepy old schmoe, am I right?  Like why is he here with us fitness enthusiasts? We are young and enjoy life, as a matter of fact I get younger every year.

He really wants me to prove im not Shizzo. Im not that dude, Im Joe V.... DUH.

Shizzo is really in his head. He must have rejected Dave's advances and now double D cant move on. What a pathetic loser.

This dude needs new interests.

Maybe he should hit the gym like me!

LOL guys I dont hit the gym. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I just hit the bottle and post here. And if Pellius would have sent that $1000 Id have hit him. But now someone owes me $1500 so im really going to nuts (because think of what I would have done for money that I never had)!!

Thats not a threat either, just me, Joe V, having fun.

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 04, 2019, 10:24:59 AM
Not really, just a guy that has a lot of time and prefers to spend in here and not with his Teens...

Eric dosent give 2 shits and is laughing his ass off while Tim is almost getting on a plane to fight the guy and fuck up his real life. you get a buzz on coming in here to make me 'confess' that I am a person in real life you dont like it and never met, when deep down you know I am not...

Thats Peter Pan syndrome at its best.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 04, 2019, 10:30:19 AM
Not really, just a guy that has a lot of time and prefers to spend in here and not with his Teens...

Eric dosent give 2 shits and is laughing his ass off while Tim is almost getting on a plane to fight the guy and fuck up his real life. you get a buzz on coming in here to make me 'confess' that I am a person in real life you dont like it and never met, when deep down you know I am not...

Thats Peter Pan syndrome at its best.

Hey guys it's Joe V again!

I call Wes Tim and ESFITNESS Eric. I'm cool.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 04, 2019, 10:34:10 AM
Hey guys it's Joe V again!

I call Wes Tim and ESFITNESS Eric. I'm cool.

Youre a sad human being
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 04, 2019, 10:36:22 AM
Youre a sad human being

Joe v again!

Daved needs Jesus.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: irishdave on October 04, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
so you have threats hanging over you and you think you are a success story?

I am not a success story yet Im 34 and made loads of mistakes but I’ll keep going

The guy who made the threats had to leave the country a few weeks after and his goons won’t do shit...but you never know
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 04, 2019, 11:32:45 AM

Eric dosent give 2 shits and is laughing his ass off while Tim is almost getting on a plane to fight the guy and fuck up his real life.


 :D

Just realised we've got out very own 'Tim & Eric Totally Awesome Show Thread' going on right here!

(https://i.postimg.cc/s2D0dqrL/fca65700-17b7-4886-b5c5-a608410f3185-2060x1236.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 04, 2019, 12:44:24 PM
:D

Just realised we've got out very own 'Tim & Eric Totally Awesome Show Thread' going on right here!

(https://i.postimg.cc/s2D0dqrL/fca65700-17b7-4886-b5c5-a608410f3185-2060x1236.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHA



They planned it all along!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 04, 2019, 01:08:52 PM
Kamali harris, you gotta be kidding me

Nope. Not kidding.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 04, 2019, 01:59:50 PM
Joe v again!

Daved needs Jesus.

Repent
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 02:09:03 PM
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 04, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
EVERYONE here knows you`re a guy just here looking for dick pics.................FAG!!

Hush, you scrawny little yapping lapdog.

Timmy Westcott...no one believes any of your bullshit.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 03:14:35 PM
(https://s.smutty.com/media_smutty_2/d/a/n/n/b/dannyd-ggmrh-9b3df7.gif)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 04, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
(https://s.smutty.com/media_smutty_2/d/a/n/n/b/dannyd-ggmrh-9b3df7.gif)

lol
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 04, 2019, 04:01:03 PM
You should get a bullet tbh...for other reasons. I’d shake your hand then pull you into me and headbutt you across the bridge of your snoz

^Pussy #1.^
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 04, 2019, 04:01:22 PM

 ;D 👍🏻 💪🏻

Correct Dave.

^Pussy #2^
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 04:01:51 PM
(https://media.tits-guru.com/images/1dcfc239-3885-43ef-8f7a-c9320b9e3f38.gif)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on October 04, 2019, 05:52:08 PM
(https://media.tits-guru.com/images/1dcfc239-3885-43ef-8f7a-c9320b9e3f38.gif)

Well posted Wes 😀👍🏻
We Need more Big Bouncy Titties on GetBigOnes 🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on October 04, 2019, 06:05:41 PM
^Pussy #2^


A Rare occasion I’ll directly reply to you Queer Boy.

Pussy #2 is Far Far Better than Being a Cloaca Muslime & Cock Sucker As You Are.

Now Go Ye Forth & Multiply
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Skeletor on October 04, 2019, 06:20:10 PM
While we're at it I might as well post this.

(https://www.mrskin.com/mrskin_data/blog_resources/000/000/018/995/alexandradaddario-34ab3bf9_web.gif?1537812527)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 04, 2019, 06:40:32 PM

A Rare occasion I’ll directly reply to you Queer Boy.

Pussy #2 is Far Far Better than Being a Cloaca Muslime & Cock Sucker As You Are.

Now Go Ye Forth & Multiply

^nerve has been struck^  ^Pussy #2^
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 08:25:01 PM
I like this thread much better lately.  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2019, 08:46:41 PM
Not really, just a guy that has a lot of time and prefers to spend in here and not with his Teens...

Eric dosent give 2 shits and is laughing his ass off while Tim is almost getting on a plane to fight the guy and fuck up his real life. you

This is accurate AF
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2019, 08:48:12 PM
:D

Just realised we've got out very own 'Tim & Eric Totally Awesome Show Thread' going on right here!

(https://i.postimg.cc/s2D0dqrL/fca65700-17b7-4886-b5c5-a608410f3185-2060x1236.jpg)

Notice I'm the top

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 04, 2019, 09:03:22 PM
Notice I'm the top



Of course you are.  Had no idea you wore eye glasses. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 09:14:35 PM
Of course you are.  Had no idea you wore eye glasses. 
ABRAHAM THERES A FIHG HTON:
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 09:15:16 PM
NEVERMIND..........dude got kod !

DarwinnPrice KO`s BREIDAS PRESCOTT

SHITTYFIGHT.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 04, 2019, 09:16:21 PM
This is accurate AF


Accurate that you don’t give a damn about those kids of yours??? Cause you  DONT Love em that’s for sure. I know their moms are skanks but hopefully they found halfway decent men to raise those poor children.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 09:18:57 PM
I don`t give 2 shits either.
Fighting and arguing is nothing new in my life.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 04, 2019, 10:23:43 PM
NEVERMIND..........dude got kod !

DarwinnPrice KO`s BREIDAS PRESCOTT

SHITTYFIGHT.

Tonights card on DAZN with GGG is pretty stacked.  Main event should be fun while it lasts.  Rumor is that GGG had a great camp.  If he blows this guy away (which I don't think he will) I'll be even more eager to see him and Canelo go again.  I'm not sold that Canelo gets by Krusher Kovalev.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 04, 2019, 10:37:20 PM
Tonights card on DAZN with GGG is pretty stacked.  Main event should be fun while it lasts.  Rumor is that GGG had a great camp.  If he blows this guy away (which I don't think he will) I'll be even more eager to see him and Canelo go again.  I'm not sold that Canelo gets by Krusher Kovalev.

Who do you like GGG v Canelo?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 04, 2019, 11:25:31 PM
Tonights card on DAZN with GGG is pretty stacked.  Main event should be fun while it lasts.  Rumor is that GGG had a great camp.  If he blows this guy away (which I don't think he will) I'll be even more eager to see him and Canelo go again.  I'm not sold that Canelo gets by Krusher Kovalev.
I started a thredd on it here somewhere.

I got ggg in the later rounds.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2019, 11:30:50 PM

Accurate that you don’t give a damn about those kids of yours??? Cause you  DONT Love em that’s for sure. I know their moms are skanks but hopefully they found halfway decent men to raise those poor children.

Yet your wife would spit out my nut and try to push it in her pussy to have my baby and have you pay for it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2019, 11:36:27 PM

Accurate that you don’t give a damn about those kids of yours??? Cause you  DONT Love em that’s for sure. I know their moms are skanks but hopefully they found halfway decent men to raise those poor children.

Yet your wife would spit out my nut and try to push it in her pussy to have my baby and have you pay for it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 04, 2019, 11:51:55 PM
Well done ESF.  Some things are funnier the 2nd time.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 04, 2019, 11:54:34 PM
Who do you like GGG v Canelo?

I thought GGG clearly won the 1st fight.  I thought GGG just barely eeked out the 2nd.  I am probably on record at the time saying that if they go a 3rd time that I'd heavily favor Canelo.  Right now, I'll stick with my Canelo pick.  How GGG looks tomorrow night might influence my decision.  Also, when they fight will make a difference.  If they fight next May, GGG still has a chance.  The longer Canelo makes him wait, the longer the odds for GGG just because of age, etc.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 05, 2019, 12:54:25 AM
Yet your wife would spit out my nut and try to push it in her pussy to have my baby and have you pay for it.

Nah - she isn’t trash like those skanks you got prego. Plus she kind of digs the way I love our family and the fact that my kids love me. Yours think another dude is their daddy. She wouldn’t fck up her genetics by mixing with you. Oh yeh - my kids granddad is a war hero not a fckn fagg - so there that too.
Pop a benzo (your Klonopin) and get some rest little fella.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: AbrahamG on October 05, 2019, 01:23:20 AM
I am not too sure many women would want a kid by you.

I think you'd be surprised. 
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 05, 2019, 01:28:37 AM
Threats from whom? bike-stealing travellers or an organised paramilitary group? You should try to entice Kwon out of retirement - he's got an extensive martial arts background and an orange belt in Taekwondo.

KWON IS A DEADLY MARTIAL ARTIST!!

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 05, 2019, 01:59:54 AM
Nah - she isn’t trash like those skanks you got prego. Plus she kind of digs the way I love our family and the fact that my kids love me. Yours think another dude is their daddy. She wouldn’t fck up her genetics by mixing with you. Oh yeh - my kids granddad is a war hero not a fckn fagg - so there that too.
Pop a benzo (your Klonopin) and get some rest little fella.
war hero meaning he sharpened pencils and ate ice cream while real men did work?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 05, 2019, 02:42:14 AM
war hero meaning he sharpened pencils and ate ice cream while real men did work?

No - he received multiple medals. Meanwhile your dad has his tongue in your stepdads hairy asshole. Gdam that’s gross to even type. My pops and I talk about our time in the military (along with other normal shit) what do you and your dad talk about - LOL.
Good thing you never have those kids - you don’t want dad kissing em with man shit breath.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: DooM_ on October 05, 2019, 03:49:38 AM
No - he received multiple medals. Meanwhile your dad has his tongue in your stepdads hairy asshole. Gdam that’s gross to even type. My pops and I talk about our time in the military (along with other normal shit) what do you and your dad talk about - LOL.
Good thing you never have those kids - you don’t want dad kissing em with man shit breath.


esf living in your head  . . .
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 05, 2019, 03:53:19 AM
esf living in your head  . . .

its always been the same on this forum, someone hands down a major owning and there is always some fuckwit who seems to believe that the victim is the victor.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: DooM_ on October 05, 2019, 05:51:08 AM
its always been the same on this forum, someone hands down a major owning and there is always some fuckwit who seems to believe that the victim is the victor.

the twit makes fun of esf's father , with scummy comments against his family , nothing to do with the thread ,  hardly a ' owning ' . . .
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 05, 2019, 06:45:56 AM
the twit makes fun of esf's father , with scummy comments against his family , nothing to do with the thread ,  hardly a ' owning ' . . .

Worst than that, I saw one homo poster judging the guy for his mistakes and 'sins', but forgot to look on his own.

Lame, to say the least..
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: sarcafago on October 05, 2019, 07:36:32 AM
Nah - she isn’t trash like those skanks you got prego. Plus she kind of digs the way I love our family and the fact that my kids love me. Yours think another dude is their daddy. She wouldn’t fck up her genetics by mixing with you. Oh yeh - my kids granddad is a war hero not a fckn fagg - so there that too.
Pop a benzo (your Klonopin) and get some rest little fella.

You’re not married nor do you have any kids you fat fucking cuck.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 05, 2019, 07:48:57 AM
one day I'm gonna drink a few glasses of red wine and read all 60 pages of this thread.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 05, 2019, 02:16:45 PM
one day I'm gonna drink a few glasses of red wine and read all 60 pages of this thread.

I dunno man - I'm thinking it's got the potential to catch up with Pellius' QP Bumfight thread

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 05, 2019, 02:19:54 PM
^^^

That's made me think of something:  I used to assign images from the film 'The Duellists' to the ESF/UK Jeff fights... (good film if anybody hasn't seen it BTW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDMxm72Q/maxresdefault.jpg)



Feels like I need a new visualisation for Tim and Eric... hmmm... endless fighting... 'King of the Streets'... how about

(https://i.postimg.cc/m2H8T90g/image.jpg)

Good scene
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: beakdoctor on October 05, 2019, 02:24:45 PM
^^^

That's made me think of something:  I used to assign images from the film 'The Duellists' to the ESF/UK Jeff fights... (good film if anybody hasn't seen it BTW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDMxm72Q/maxresdefault.jpg)



Feels like I need a new visualisation for Tim and Eric... hmmm... endless fighting... 'King of the Streets'... how about

(https://i.postimg.cc/m2H8T90g/image.jpg)

Good scene

Man, I loved that movie. Very good flick. So underrated and forgotten.  Based on a book by Joseph Conrad-who also wrote the book that inspired Apocalypse Now.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: D.O.A. on October 05, 2019, 02:32:59 PM
Man, I loved that movie. Very good flick. So underrated and forgotten.  Based on a book by Joseph Conrad-who also wrote the book that inspired Apocalypse Now.
One of my favorite for sure! I love pretty much everything Carpenter has done. "They Live" is probably his best next to "Escape from New York".
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 05, 2019, 03:45:14 PM
One of my favorite for sure! I love pretty much everything Carpenter has done. "They Live" is probably his best next to "Escape from New York".



I've watched a few but nowhere near his entire catalog.  I've watched 'Big Trouble in Little China' far too many times!  Just got hold of DarkStar in HD, so looking forward to that in the near future...



One of his lesser known* films that always gave me the chills when 'He' emerges from the shadow in the doorway :o is Prince of Darkness




*at least I can never find anyone who's watched it!


Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 05, 2019, 04:26:53 PM
This thread went to shit.,anyone feel like fighting.,.....................it can be over anything at all ?  LOL;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 05, 2019, 05:49:35 PM
This thread went to shit.,anyone feel like fighting.,.....................it can be over anything at all ?  LOL;D

I'll fight you over the biggest lie ESF has ever told.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 05, 2019, 07:44:29 PM
I'll fight you over the biggest lie ESF has ever told.
I`m not gonna touch that one...............gotta try to keep it on good terms.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 05, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
Couple of dudes really fake at me hard telling me I am not married?? I have to say that was hard to read - really stung  ;D.
Guys - you aren’t going to “own” with comments about me or family. They are all incredibly successful and as much as it probably sucks to hear if you hate me - my wife is drop dead gorgeous. I have no problem admitting that people probably think she is out of my league  ;D.

Hint hint - those comments only hurt if they’re true. Do I think I am “better” than ESF? If I’m honest - yes. The piece of shit does nothing for multiple kids he had with multiple crack skanks. See - that stings Eric because it’s true.
My guess is that Joe and whoever the other poster was - are single incels that probably don’t have much.
I actually alluded to this kind of self defeating jealousy when I spoke earlier.

Wes - I gotta start kind of early tomorrow or I promise I would fight with you. I know sluggers like you have to get that shit out somehow.  ;D  I’ll spar with you as soon as possible ya old bastard!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 05, 2019, 11:41:59 PM
Couple of dudes really fake at me hard telling me I am not married?? I have to say that was hard to read - really stung  ;D.
Guys - you aren’t going to “own” with comments about me or family. They are all incredibly successful and as much as it probably sucks to hear if you hate me - my wife is drop dead gorgeous. I have no problem admitting that people probably think she is out of my league  ;D.

Hint hint - those comments only hurt if they’re true. Do I think I am “better” than ESF? If I’m honest - yes. The piece of shit does nothing for multiple kids he had with multiple crack skanks. See - that stings Eric because it’s true.
My guess is that Joe and whoever the other poster was - are single incels that probably don’t have much.
I actually alluded to this kind of self defeating jealousy when I spoke earlier.

Wes - I gotta start kind of early tomorrow or I promise I would fight with you. I know sluggers like you have to get that shit out somehow.  ;D  I’ll spar with you as soon as possible ya old bastard!

The funny part is you think"it's true". You and every other insecure sissy on this site thinks people will believe whatever shit they make up about me. Pathetic. You thinking I have to fuck "crack skanks" who are fat and ugly? Bwahahaha... Look at me. Listen to me. You really think I have a hard time finding gorgeous intelligent girls? Pathetic. I get why people like you don't like me. I'm the guy you worry about your wives and GFS talking to, working with, or meeting at the grocery store.

Somebody like me probably fucked your girlfriend and middle school or High School. Somebody like me probably fucked your wife in the break room at her work.

 So you treat everybody here like your ex gfs, telling them "he's lying blah blah blah", trying to sway their opinions of me.

Pathetic.

Ever seen me following anybody through threads, ruining everybody's threads, trying to sway people's opinions of you?

People like me don't give a fuck about people like you. Yet your mind stays on people like me.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 06, 2019, 04:20:07 AM
One of his lesser known* films that always gave me the chills when 'He' emerges from the shadow in the doorway :o is Prince of Darkness




*at least I can never find anyone who's watched it!





Saw it in the cinema when it was released!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 06, 2019, 06:20:24 AM
Couple of dudes really fake at me hard telling me I am not married?? I have to say that was hard to read - really stung  ;D.
Guys - you aren’t going to “own” with comments about me or family. They are all incredibly successful and as much as it probably sucks to hear if you hate me - my wife is drop dead gorgeous. I have no problem admitting that people probably think she is out of my league  ;D.

Hint hint - those comments only hurt if they’re true. Do I think I am “better” than ESF? If I’m honest - yes. The piece of shit does nothing for multiple kids he had with multiple crack skanks. See - that stings Eric because it’s true.
My guess is that Joe and whoever the other poster was - are single incels that probably don’t have much.
I actually alluded to this kind of self defeating jealousy when I spoke earlier.

Wes - I gotta start kind of early tomorrow or I promise I would fight with you. I know sluggers like you have to get that shit out somehow.  ;D  I’ll spar with you as soon as possible ya old bastard!

Well, I have a 35k car(paid) and a House two blocks away from the Beach. I definitely could have some more, and I am really fine if you have 10 or 100 times more. Jealousy usually gets someone to nowhere anyways...
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 06, 2019, 06:24:36 AM
The funny part is you think"it's true". You and every other insecure sissy on this site thinks people will believe whatever shit they make up about me. Pathetic. You thinking I have to fuck "crack skanks" who are fat and ugly? Bwahahaha... Look at me. Listen to me. You really think I have a hard time finding gorgeous intelligent girls? Pathetic. I get why people like you don't like me. I'm the guy you worry about your wives and GFS talking to, working with, or meeting at the grocery store.

Somebody like me probably fucked your girlfriend and middle school or High School. Somebody like me probably fucked your wife in the break room at her work.

 So you treat everybody here like your ex gfs, telling them "he's lying blah blah blah", trying to sway their opinions of me.

Pathetic.

Ever seen me following anybody through threads, ruining everybody's threads, trying to sway people's opinions of you?

People like me don't give a fuck about people like you. Yet your mind stays on people like me.

Pathetic.

You thinking I have to fuck "crack skanks" who are fat and ugly"

Thats pretty much what I fuck. Not ashamed. Somebody has to do the "dirty work" :(  loool
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: DooM_ on October 06, 2019, 09:30:20 AM
Couple of dudes really fake at me hard telling me I am not married?? I have to say that was hard to read - really stung  ;D.
Guys - you aren’t going to “own” with comments about me or family. They are all incredibly successful and as much as it probably sucks to hear if you hate me - my wife is drop dead gorgeous. I have no problem admitting that people probably think she is out of my league  ;D.

Hint hint - those comments only hurt if they’re true. Do I think I am “better” than ESF? If I’m honest - yes. The piece of shit does nothing for multiple kids he had with multiple crack skanks. See - that stings Eric because it’s true.
My guess is that Joe and whoever the other poster was - are single incels that probably don’t have much.
I actually alluded to this kind of self defeating jealousy when I spoke earlier.

Wes - I gotta start kind of early tomorrow or I promise I would fight with you. I know sluggers like you have to get that shit out somehow.  ;D  I’ll spar with you as soon as possible ya old bastard!

now you're trying to convince everyone how ' great ' your life is . . .   ::)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 06, 2019, 09:49:08 AM
now you're trying to convince everyone how ' great ' your life is . . .   ::)

and here you are again with totally the wrong interpretation of how the forum works
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
now you're trying to convince everyone how ' great ' your life is . . .   ::)

I don’t care whether people think I have a great life.. That makes no sense. I do have a great life in my opinion - which is really all that matters. I deal with stressors like anyone else but I love life and look forward to every new day. That is not something to brag about - it’s NORMAL. You’re supposed to be happy. Guess what - I breathe too - and I drink water - but bragging about those things makes just as much sense as bragging about life being good.

My life has nothing to do with the fact that Eric is a dead beat bum of a father.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 06, 2019, 11:46:29 AM
ERIC VS TIM VS MARVIN = ?


(https://66.media.tumblr.com/d7716dec3fc7313d34bfa2acef2a63ff/f6e8101d9cebb415-08/s640x960/19d7b904937becdb5e271f9babe525d57e2dfc49.gif)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 12:00:09 PM
Yet your wife would spit out my nut and try to push it in her pussy to have my baby and have you pay for it.

Weird visual.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 12:05:03 PM
the twit makes fun of esf's father , with scummy comments against his family , nothing to do with the thread ,  hardly a ' owning ' . . .

I agree. It is also interesting when folks post discriptively detailed comments they themselves find disturbing. I don't get it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 12:07:10 PM
Worst than that, I saw one homo poster judging the guy for his mistakes and 'sins', but forgot to look on his own.

Lame, to say the least..

People don't even want to admit their own mistakes, much less talk or post about them.  ;)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 12:10:09 PM
one day I'm gonna drink a few glasses of red wine and read all 60 pages of this thread.

You'll need those glasses of wine or even something stronger to read this entire thread. Some Popcorn for sustenance might be a good idea too.  :D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 12:12:03 PM
This thread went to shit.,anyone feel like fighting.,.....................it can be over anything at all ?  LOL;D

Sorry; I'm more of a lover than a fighter.  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 06, 2019, 12:16:05 PM
This thread went to shit.,anyone feel like fighting.,.....................it can be over anything at all ?  LOL;D

 >:(

Alright then you f**ker - you asked for this!!!

I think your avatar might need updating!  Yeah, how d'you like them apples..? 

Think about using this (below) instead or I will get on a plane to travel to the US and walk around the country randomly asking everyone if they've seen you until I find you and threaten you with fisticuffs until you agree that later interpretations of the Silver Surfer were much more anatomically correct and being a bodybuilder yourself THAT SHOULD MATTER!!

(https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/strange_tales_starring_1-06.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 12:16:12 PM
Well, I have a 35k car(paid) and a House two blocks away from the Beach. I definitely could have some more, and I am really fine if you have 10 or 100 times more. Jealousy usually gets someone to nowhere anyways...

I am officially jealous of you having a house so close to the beach. Hopefully, it is in a warm and sunny location...which makes me ever more envious ;D.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 12:18:10 PM
You thinking I have to fuck "crack skanks" who are fat and ugly"

Thats pretty much what I fuck. Not ashamed. Somebody has to do the "dirty work" :(  loool

I wouldn't go near someone who did crack, much less be intimate with them.  :o
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 06, 2019, 12:44:40 PM
Well, I have a 35k car(paid) and a House two blocks away from the Beach. I definitely could have some more, and I am really fine if you have 10 or 100 times more. Jealousy usually gets someone to nowhere anyways...

“Joe” it sounds like you’re doing very well for yourself.

Why were you asking for handouts on here, what’s $300 to you?

Also what beaches are in Orlando? Or did you recently purchase the beach house?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2019, 01:03:46 PM
“Joe” it sounds like you’re doing very well for yourself.

Why were you asking for handouts on here, what’s $300 to you?

Also what beaches are in Orlando? Or did you recently purchase the beach house?

It’s already been confirmed that he’s Shizzo.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 06, 2019, 01:23:54 PM
>:(

Alright then you f**ker - you asked for this!!!

I think your avatar might need updating!  Yeah, how d'you like them apples..? 

Think about using this (below) instead or I will get on a plane to travel to the US and walk around the country randomly asking everyone if they've seen you until I find you and threaten you with fisticuffs until you agree that later interpretations of the Silver Surfer were much more anatomically correct and being a bodybuilder yourself THAT SHOULD MATTER!!

(https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/strange_tales_starring_1-06.jpg)
What dire mishap has befallen thee mere mortal to ever assume my avatar would need an upgrade?  LOL   ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Henda on October 06, 2019, 02:08:49 PM
Shizzo once admitted to partaking in intense masturbation over the noises of his own sister engaging in loud sexual intercourse that he could hear coming through the wall separating their bedrooms
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:21:17 PM
Shizzo once admitted to partaking in intense masturbation over the noises of his own sister engaging in loud sexual intercourse that he could hear coming through the wall separating their bedrooms

This is not much of an admission. It happens a lot more than some might think. As long as he stayed in his own room, there should be no issue.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: che on October 06, 2019, 02:24:10 PM
This is not much of an admission. It happens a lot more than some might think. As long as he stayed in his own room, there should be no issue.

You are a sick fuck
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Skeletor on October 06, 2019, 02:34:00 PM
Shizzo once admitted to partaking in intense masturbation over the noises of his own sister engaging in loud sexual intercourse that he could hear coming through the wall separating their bedrooms

This is not much of an admission. It happens a lot more than some might think. As long as he stayed in his own room, there should be no issue.

Sick fucks. Should be tarred and feathered.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2019, 02:36:20 PM
This is not much of an admission. It happens a lot more than some might think. As long as he stayed in his own room, there should be no issue.

How do you know it happens a lot more than we think?

Any data to back up your statement?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:37:52 PM
How do you know it happens a lot more than we think?

Any data to back up your statement?

I'm an only child....what do you think?  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 03:00:24 PM
This is not much of an admission. It happens a lot more than some might think. As long as he stayed in his own room, there should be no issue.

You don’t even realize how creepy you sound do you? Family should not REMOTELY sexually arouse - and DAMN sure not your own sister.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 03:03:40 PM
ERIC VS TIM VS MARVIN = ?


(https://66.media.tumblr.com/d7716dec3fc7313d34bfa2acef2a63ff/f6e8101d9cebb415-08/s640x960/19d7b904937becdb5e271f9babe525d57e2dfc49.gif)

So you’ve seen the “Martian Member” ??  ;D

Joke - I ain’t no John Holmes. Got the plain ole white boy wacker !!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 06, 2019, 03:46:09 PM
“Joe” it sounds like you’re doing very well for yourself.

Why were you asking for handouts on here, what’s $300 to you?

Also what beaches are in Orlando? Or did you recently purchase the beach house?

Its insane the amount of time you think of me, Dave, when I sincerely dont give a fuck about you. On your mind all the time. Sad.. :(
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 06, 2019, 03:47:40 PM
It’s already been confirmed that he’s Shizzo.

Its already been confirmed that you suck cock?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 06, 2019, 03:48:32 PM
I wouldn't go near someone who did crack, much less be intimate with them.  :o

Prime, not all fat women do crack, thats what I meant. :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 06, 2019, 03:49:53 PM
I am officially jealous of you having a house so close to the beach. Hopefully, it is in a warm and sunny location...which makes me ever more envious ;D.

Thank You, Sir, but Im pretty sure youre doing quite alright yourself :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 04:01:48 PM
Prime, not all fat women do crack, thats what I meant. :)

Well, I know very little about crack. All I know about how people look who are addicted to crack is from photos I've seen on the Internet and none that I remember were fat. Probably something is going over my naive head.  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 06, 2019, 04:06:47 PM
Well, I know very little about crack. All I know about how people look who are addicted to crack is from photos I've seen on the Internet and none that I remember were fat. Probably something is going over my naive head.  :)

Oh. I meant that I personally like chubby Girls, not crack heads :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 06, 2019, 05:11:48 PM
This is not much of an admission. It happens a lot more than some might think. As long as he stayed in his own room, there should be no issue.

Fucking weirdo
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 05:13:23 PM
Oh. I meant that I personally like chubby Girls, not crack heads :)

Fat girls are disgusting. They are lazy and lack the discipline necessary to stay healthy and in shape. I would imagine that they aren’t hygienic and smell. They probably (I assume most of them) have filthy houses. Nothing more of a turn off than a woman that doesn’t have a neat clean home.
I think stick figures are bad too - but not gross - just a total turn off. A man that likes women with no hips is probably partially gay. Women who are curvy are hot - but actually chubby / fat - just nasty. Having said that - I am sure I would feel different if my wife were not in shape - I am not completely shallow.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 05:14:29 PM
Fucking weirdo

You speak volumes with those two words. Getting off listening to your SISTER?!?! WTF??
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: sarcafago on October 06, 2019, 08:02:55 PM
Couple of dudes really fake at me hard telling me I am not married?? I have to say that was hard to read - really stung  ;D.
Guys - you aren’t going to “own” with comments about me or family. They are all incredibly successful and as much as it probably sucks to hear if you hate me - my wife is drop dead gorgeous. I have no problem admitting that people probably think she is out of my league  ;D.

Hint hint - those comments only hurt if they’re true. Do I think I am “better” than ESF? If I’m honest - yes. The piece of shit does nothing for multiple kids he had with multiple crack skanks. See - that stings Eric because it’s true.
My guess is that Joe and whoever the other poster was - are single incels that probably don’t have much.
I actually alluded to this kind of self defeating jealousy when I spoke earlier.

Wes - I gotta start kind of early tomorrow or I promise I would fight with you. I know sluggers like you have to get that shit out somehow.  ;D  I’ll spar with you as soon as possible ya old bastard!

LMAO! ;D

I never even knew there was such a movement until about a year back while I was lurking on here, and I thought someone made up a new kind of WYHI type thread.

I don't know what the whole movement is about other than anti marriage. ???  Are they saying they are swearing off women altogether, or that men don't need or shouldn't want a female companion?  That children/being a provider and mentor offers no value in a man's life?

There's been 3 women I've been in relationships with where marriage and even how many kids has been discussed.  The last one had 3 kids..... (I knew her b4  when she only had one, and then she got in touch with me years later after she'd had the other 2 with her husband who she was divorcing.)  I realized after having them all stay over at my place for 3 days straight from Thanksgiving until Sunday afternoon that I was not meant to have children.  I'm great with kids, and treated them as if they were my own, but even with my niece and nephew after about 3-4 hours it's "ok, uncle "myt1" needs to go home now!"

As I'm inching towards 50 it just doesn't seem reasonable to me, or fair for a kid's sake for me to have a child of my own this late.  When it comes to marriage this late in life....what is the fucking point?  I will never even fuck, let alone date someone that's not at least 10-15 years younger than me.  I want an energetic little fuck bunny that makes me feel invigorated, not some used up, dry vag, post menopausal, 2x(+) divorcee to sit in a rocking chair next to bitching about our aches and pains.

It’s very easy - you don’t eat those things. I am almost 50 so she has nothing to do with it at all.


Fucking loser.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 08:17:11 PM
??? WTF did I miss?? Are you calling me a loser or the MT dude? Or both of us? I guess you think being late 40’s is a thing for losers??
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 06, 2019, 08:42:54 PM
Its insane the amount of time you think of me, Dave, when I sincerely dont give a fuck about you. On your mind all the time. Sad.. :(

Hi guys it Joe V!

Dave is a real weirdo, like he remembers the oddest stuff. I hope he gets help. If he doesn't I'll take $1000 to fight him. And I will fight him too, just ask Pellius.

All i'm saying is I paid of a $35k car, 2016 Tahoe, 97k miles, LOADED with EVERY option available, live in Orlando 2 blocks from the beach and have a guy that owes me $1500 not returning my calls
 I actually have a life with real good results.

Unlike Dave D(ummy). He is a loser. Following me around. Like I care. Actually  I dont give an F (I saw Esfitness say this same thing to Wes. Its offensive but VERY effective).

Ciao
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: sarcafago on October 06, 2019, 08:46:34 PM
??? WTF did I miss?? Are you calling me a loser or the MT dude? Or both of us? I guess you think being late 40’s is a thing for losers??

Kill yourself.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 08:52:06 PM
Kill yourself.

Why would I do that? Doesn’t make sense.

Are you trying to make friends with me? Is that what this is?  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 06, 2019, 09:01:17 PM
You speak volumes with those two words. Getting off listening to your SISTER?!?! WTF??

I’m not sure if it is the same for a man, but do you know how creepy what Primemuscle said sounds to a woman?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: BB on October 06, 2019, 09:17:43 PM
This is not much of an admission. It happens a lot more than some might think. As long as he stayed in his own room, there should be no issue.

(https://i.redd.it/2bvgvt73lro31.jpg).

You are one weird niggä Prime :(.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 06, 2019, 09:27:28 PM
63 pages....surpassed my expectations
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 09:28:12 PM
I’m not sure if it is the same for a man, but do you know how creepy what Primemuscle said sounds to a woman?

Actually I can’t imagine. Trust me though - it’s pretty creepy for a guy too. Hearing your sister sexing should  freaking gross you the fck out. Would probably piss me off too.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 06, 2019, 09:41:51 PM
(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/airplane-propleller-flight-aviation-engine-isolated-propeller-white-image-can-be-used-as-concept-flying-don-t-forget-33156982.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 06, 2019, 10:08:21 PM
Wes - what does that mean? I think I have seen a propeller posted before - but I don’t have a clue why.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 06, 2019, 10:26:22 PM
Wes - what does that mean? I think I have seen a propeller posted before - but I don’t have a clue why.
That was a thing I placed in an over 100 page thread back in the day on here.

Some nitwit got his arm chopped off by a prop then the thread turned into the now infamous  pillowtalk thread.

"pillowtalk" was a pedofile we outed on the board,who has now left the building country.

This is strictly going by my old memory...........might be a bit different but that`s the reason for the propeller pics and the gist of the situation.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2019, 12:36:26 AM
ERIC VS SCOTT

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/2ddf1e337495bbe304c28665356e1282/tumblr_plnfy3fISD1ww668b_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 05:11:06 AM
Hi guys it Joe V!

Dave is a real weirdo, like he remembers the oddest stuff. I hope he gets help. If he doesn't I'll take $1000 to fight him. And I will fight him too, just ask Pellius.

All i'm saying is I paid of a $35k car, 2016 Tahoe, 97k miles, LOADED with EVERY option available, live in Orlando 2 blocks from the beach and have a guy that owes me $1500 not returning my calls
 I actually have a life with real good results.

Unlike Dave D(ummy). He is a loser. Following me around. Like I care. Actually  I dont give an F (I saw Esfitness say this same thing to Wes. Its offensive but VERY effective).

Ciao


Very sad, Dave. I now have a 16 Tahoe with 97 k miles and live in Orlando!?

For a 'investigator", you reaaaaally off. LOL

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 07, 2019, 10:18:27 AM
ERIC VS SCOTT

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/2ddf1e337495bbe304c28665356e1282/tumblr_plnfy3fISD1ww668b_1280.jpg)


DAMN - you sure are a distracting mthrfckr!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2019, 10:22:00 AM
You are a sick fuck

Of course I am.

Are you saying you've never masturbated?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 07, 2019, 10:31:44 AM
Very sad, Dave. I now have a 16 Tahoe with 97 k miles and live in Orlando!?

For a 'investigator", you reaaaaally off. LOL



Joe Valentino is here gang, HAPPY MONDAY!

Guye I'm going to let you in on a secret, Joe V isnt my real name. In fact much of what I say on here isnt true. My age, using steroids, where I grew up, living by the beachn etc... I mean this dope Dave D says I live in Orlando.

 I dont.

Im not sure where to say I live because Ive lied so many times about it and doing my homework on this will really suck.

One thing I can guarantee that is true though, I'm not Shizzo!
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 10:50:57 AM
Joe Valentino is here gang, HAPPY MONDAY!

Guye I'm going to let you in on a secret, Joe V isnt my real name. In fact much of what I say on here isnt true. My age, using steroids, where I grew up, living by the beachn etc... I mean this dope Dave D says I live in Orlando.

 I dont.

Im not sure where to say I live because Ive lied so many times about it and doing my homework on this will really suck.

One thing I can guarantee that is true though, I'm not Shizzo!


See, I can afford to act and behave like this, cause I am not a Parent, I dont raise Kids. I dont have to be a role model for Teens. If I die, there wont be any orphans, but...
You, Sir, if you are a Father, youre sure not behaving like one, at least not in here. Your obsession with me and Shizzo says a lot about the kind of father figure you are.
Really sad, Dave, youre letting some posters in here down, sad indeed
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 07, 2019, 10:54:59 AM

See, I can afford to act and behave like this, cause I am not a Parent, I dont raise Kids. I dont have to be a role model for Teens. If I die, there wont be any orphans, but...
You, Sir, if you are a Father, youre sure not behaving like one, at least not in here. Your obsession with me and Shizzo says a lot about the kind of father figure you are.
Really sad, Dave, youre letting some posters in here down, sad indeed

pure shizzo..... ::)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 10:57:41 AM
pure shizzo..... ::)

If you dont mind me asking, why all the hate on Shizzo?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 07, 2019, 10:58:42 AM
If you dont mind me asking, why all the hate on Shizzo?
(https://www.therange.co.uk/_m5/6/9/1459910244_327.jpg)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 11:01:44 AM
(https://www.therange.co.uk/_m5/6/9/1459910244_327.jpg)

Would you care to elaborate?

Or, just hatred towards someone that dislike Guns and Christianity?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: joswift on October 07, 2019, 11:04:53 AM
Would you care to elaborate?

Or, just hatred towards someone that dislike Guns and Christianity?

anyone but shizzo would have got the reference
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 11:06:30 AM
anyone but shizzo would have got the reference


Tell me more about Shizzo or should I say about 'Me'? LOL
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2019, 11:59:08 AM
If you dont mind me asking, why all the hate on Shizzo?

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 07, 2019, 12:14:26 PM
If you dont mind me asking, why all the hate on Shizzo?

They have told me that he faked a death - sucked a dick - and damn man have you seen the picture? The guy doesn’t realize that he’s morbidly obese
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2019, 12:23:41 PM
They have told me that he faked a death - sucked a dick - and damn man have you seen the picture? The guy doesn’t realize that he’s morbidly obese

Not even Eric likes that obese toad Shizzo.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: ESFitness on October 07, 2019, 01:43:35 PM
Not even Eric likes that obese toad Shizzo.

I don't really mind him, but same as anybody else, if he came after me I responded.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 02:22:43 PM
They have told me that he faked a death - sucked a dick - and damn man have you seen the picture? The guy doesn’t realize that he’s morbidly obese

Im pretty sure theres at least 4 or 5 posters in here that suck cock. I wont mention any names, but....
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 02:29:50 PM


Im not Shizzo, but I personally like ESF. It dosent mean I dislike Wes, hes good.

People hate a lot. Ive done my share of trolling, but its long gone, so...I hope ESF is in a good place right now
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 02:38:45 PM
anyone but shizzo would have got the reference


I just watched the video. Are you guy that would pay ESF 5K to beat 'Me' or Shizzo, here in Florida? LOL

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Skeletor on October 07, 2019, 02:46:03 PM
We need 6 more pages to win my bet

Seems like you won the bet.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 07, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
I just watched the video. Are you guy that would pay ESF 5K to beat 'Me' or Shizzo, here in Florida? LOL



Are you the guy who lives 2 blocks from the beach?

But would only fight retiree Pellius if he gave you $1000 and 2 months to train?

Or are high the guy who openly requested a $300 donation from Xfactor?

Who exactly are you Joe Valentino ?
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 03:15:54 PM
Are you the guy who lives 2 blocks from the beach?

But would only fight retiree Pellius if he gave you $1000 and 2 months to train?

Or are high the guy who openly requested a $300 donation from Xfactor?

Who exactly are you Joe Valentino ?

Dave, youre a nutcase, but Ill answer a few of the questions.

1- Yes
2- Yes
3- Yes

4- The answer is a video by Supertramp. "Please Tell me Who I am, Who I am, Who I aaaaaam"

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on October 07, 2019, 03:22:34 PM
Dave, youre a nutcase, but Ill answer a few of the questions.

1- Yes
2- Yes
3- Yes

4- The answer is a video by Supertramp. "Please Tell me Who I am, Who I am, Who I aaaaaam"



I know who you are.

Besides being a liar.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 07, 2019, 03:24:03 PM
I know who you are.

Besides being a liar.



Thank You, Dave
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 07, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Ole Eric boy - you gonna ever do something for those kids man? They need you - well at least some funds.

Look - I’ll make a deal - if you can’t (I am pretty sure you don’t give a fck about them) - message me and I’ll see what I can do to help. I ain’t getting involved personally but I can have some funds sent
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2019, 02:20:39 AM
(https://scontent.farn1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72325222_10206461833542234_8085082137205669888_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQlGnT3lF4vplmlSwb8pgzwSxQ1UdgnLHkXEHCIgWEVXUGWZjtRC1Hpp6tm1LMu53Ac&_nc_ht=scontent.farn1-1.fna&oh=e084f66ac761f35902acb524cd91e0bf&oe=5E20C554)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: sarcafago on October 08, 2019, 07:44:48 AM
Ole Eric boy - you gonna ever do something for those kids man? They need you - well at least some funds.

Look - I’ll make a deal - if you can’t (I am pretty sure you don’t give a fck about them) - message me and I’ll see what I can do to help. I ain’t getting involved personally but I can have some funds sent

Fuck off loser. You have no wife, no kids and you barely have enough funds to live on. Would love to see your shit hole, better yet, post a progress pic of yourself fat boy. Let’s see what that trt is doing for you.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Taffin on October 08, 2019, 11:07:38 AM
What dire mishap has befallen thee mere mortal to ever assume my avatar would need an upgrade?  LOL   ;D

Yeah, I was reaching - was it that obvious..?

I love you bud (NH naturally)  Sorry to spoil such a hyper-aggressive thread, I shouldn't play with the grown-ups  ;D

Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Joe Valentino on October 08, 2019, 11:16:51 AM
Ole Eric boy - you gonna ever do something for those kids man? They need you - well at least some funds.

Look - I’ll make a deal - if you can’t (I am pretty sure you don’t give a fck about them) - message me and I’ll see what I can do to help. I ain’t getting involved personally but I can have some funds sent

Fund$$ :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2019, 02:02:48 PM
Im pretty sure theres at least 4 or 5 posters in here that suck cock. I wont mention any names, but....

Only 4 or 5? I would have guessed more than that. :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 08, 2019, 02:11:01 PM
Yeah, I was reaching - was it that obvious..?

I love you bud (NH naturally)  Sorry to spoil such a hyper-aggressive thread, I shouldn't play with the grown-ups  ;D


Right back at you brother and of course the obligatory no homo is indeed needed !  :)
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 08, 2019, 07:47:33 PM
Fuck off loser. You have no wife, no kids and you barely have enough funds to live on. Would love to see your shit hole, better yet, post a progress pic of yourself fat boy. Let’s see what that trt is doing for you.

It totally kills you to know that I have a stunning woman as my wife that cooked a clean healthy but delicious meal again tonight. She is human and all of have flaws but she tries EVERY day to improve herself just like I do. On days I don’t travel we wake early and do cardio together but we always do it (most of the time  ;D ) Beautiful home - won’t you into it but we earned every brick / tile / and acre. We had to live in a small apartment when first married. My wife’s career is very closely tied to mine and she has carved out an excellent niche for herself.
Youngest daughter is finishing undergrad - hopefully deciding on her choice for grad school.

Not getting in to any more details
If you GENUINELY don’t think I’ve a home and family - I really don’t care. You not believing has no affect on reality. Convince yourself down to every atom in your body that you don’t believe in gravity - step out a 10 story window to proof yourself.
There will definitely some proof discovered I assure you.

message me man. I’ll be happy to share books / audio / seminars etc that have helped me. You can turn your life around and be a super positive winner!!!


Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 08, 2019, 08:01:10 PM
That was a thing I placed in an over 100 page thread back in the day on here.

Some nitwit got his arm chopped off by a prop then the thread turned into the now infamous  pillowtalk thread.

"pillowtalk" was a pedofile we outed on the board,who has now left the building country.

This is strictly going by my old memory...........might be a bit different but that`s the reason for the propeller pics and the gist of the situation.

I thought it was a female model that got out of an airplane and then walked into the propellor?

Then Pillowtalk or W8M8 (?) started threatening to stab people. So someone made a Stab List.

Then Pillowtalk was bragging about doing time in England and his family owning a diet company.

Some guy came on and said, “you’re Matthew Howard and you did time for possessing and selling kiddie porn.” The guy was right and Pillowtalk got verbally abused. Then a short while later all the posts were deleted.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: wes on October 08, 2019, 08:59:37 PM
I thought it was a female model that got out of an airplane and then walked into the propellor?

Then Pillowtalk or W8M8 (?) started threatening to stab people. So someone made a Stab List.

Then Pillowtalk was bragging about doing time in England and his family owning a diet company.

Some guy came on and said, “you’re Matthew Howard and you did time for possessing and selling kiddie porn.” The guy was right and Pillowtalk got verbally abused. Then a short while later all the posts were deleted.
Me and Johnny aka Salvatore made the stab list thingy......I believe  ???

You`re probably right aboutit beinga model wholostherarm........... I sidIwas going by my sketchy memory.

I think theBritish guy "gee" was the one who outed pillowalk.

I don`t knowf or sure so much shithas happened here over the last 20 years its hard to keep track.

I knowitwasn`tw8m8though.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: illuminati on October 09, 2019, 04:06:37 AM
No - he received multiple medals. Meanwhile your dad has his tongue in your stepdads hairy asshole. Gdam that’s gross to even type. My pops and I talk about our time in the military (along with other normal shit) what do you and your dad talk about - LOL.
Good thing you never have those kids - you don’t want dad kissing em with man shit breath.



🤮🤮🤮
Damn that’s tough to Read.
What a great Grandad figure !!
Jeez the kids Father is a Liar / Dreamer / Drug addict / Ex Con / Drug dealer
and Grandad’s a Raging Queer Fagggott !!!

Great Role Models
Is Best They Don’t have anything to do with them.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 09, 2019, 06:20:37 AM
Me and Johnny aka Salvatore made the stab list thingy......I believe  ???

You`re probably right aboutit beinga model wholostherarm........... I sidIwas going by my sketchy memory.

I think theBritish guy "gee" was the one who outed pillowalk.

I don`t knowf or sure so much shithas happened here over the last 20 years its hard to keep track.

I knowitwasn`tw8m8though.

Old man...you need to sober up.

Your life depends on it.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: sarcafago on October 09, 2019, 06:58:17 AM
It totally kills you to know that I have a stunning woman as my wife that cooked a clean healthy but delicious meal again tonight. She is human and all of have flaws but she tries EVERY day to improve herself just like I do. On days I don’t travel we wake early and do cardio together but we always do it (most of the time  ;D ) Beautiful home - won’t you into it but we earned every brick / tile / and acre. We had to live in a small apartment when first married. My wife’s career is very closely tied to mine and she has carved out an excellent niche for herself.
Youngest daughter is finishing undergrad - hopefully deciding on her choice for grad school.

Not getting in to any more details
If you GENUINELY don’t think I’ve a home and family - I really don’t care. You not believing has no affect on reality. Convince yourself down to every atom in your body that you don’t believe in gravity - step out a 10 story window to proof yourself.
There will definitely some proof discovered I assure you.

message me man. I’ll be happy to share books / audio / seminars etc that have helped me. You can turn your life around and be a super positive winner!!!




Nothings killing me you dumb nig*er, I don’t know you from a can of paint.
Title: Re: ESF - Discussion
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 09, 2019, 07:45:54 AM
Nothings killing me you dumb nig*er, I don’t know you from a can of paint.

Pretty dark but nope not black. Just a plain ole white boy.  If you need some help message me man -


Either way have an outstanding Wednesday buddy.