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Title: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 07, 2023, 03:31:00 PM
Maybe i missed it
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: joswift on October 07, 2023, 03:31:40 PM
the attack or the thread?
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: IroNat on October 07, 2023, 03:36:35 PM
What's newsworthy about it?
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: joswift on October 07, 2023, 03:41:33 PM
Israel dont advertise killing Palestinians
Title: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: Mayday on October 07, 2023, 03:46:11 PM

In 1973 the US supported Israel in was and as a result the Arab countries put embargo’s on oil to the US which resulted in a huge energy crisis.

In 2023 Israel have just declared they are at war. Suffice to say the US will support….. and the Arab countries will…….

There you have it. True pain incoming in 3…..2……1……
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2023, 03:49:33 PM
What's newsworthy about it?

That Biden gave Iran $6 billion basically to fund Hamas….
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: The Scott on October 07, 2023, 03:53:33 PM
Hopefully the Hollyweird Hebrews will sign up to defend their "homeland".  Since they hate the USA so much, why not?

Personally I hope they do and are all killed by silicon negroes.
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: joswift on October 07, 2023, 03:56:04 PM
Who fucking cares, 40 years ago this would have been a 60 second segment on the BBC News
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: The Scott on October 07, 2023, 03:56:26 PM
That Biden gave Iran $6 billion basically to fund Hamas….

Yup.  Biden is a pedo/swinger/degenerate et al. All the cucks here should run to the defense of Hollyweird Hebrews and perish in flames with their gods.

Fuck all the democrats to fuckin' Hades.  STDs take them all.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Royalty on October 07, 2023, 04:14:12 PM
That Biden gave Iran $6 billion basically to fund Hamas….

Biden will respond to today’s news by sending more money to...  Ukraine
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: The Scott on October 07, 2023, 04:19:18 PM
Biden will respond to today’s news by sending more money to...  Ukraine

The Ukraine should be renamed  "Biden's Laundromat". 
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: stingray on October 07, 2023, 04:32:14 PM
Palestinians should flatten Israel
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: SF1900 on October 07, 2023, 04:56:37 PM
I'll always support Israel in their endless battle.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: IroNat on October 07, 2023, 05:09:52 PM
I'll always support Israel in their endless battle.

Against Pharoah?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/ad/cb/92adcbc08eeb33626744605c28ef4958.jpg)
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: CalvinH on October 07, 2023, 05:13:36 PM
Arabs in immigration camps because left their countries oppressive lifestyle cheering the attack.


....Very intelligent people
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 07, 2023, 06:11:33 PM
That Biden gave Iran $6 billion basically to fund Hamas….

Gave them back their money we've held and collected interest in for over 40 years...and they would have attacked anyway
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 07, 2023, 06:13:25 PM
Palestinians should flatten Israel


With what??  They dont come close to measuring up to Israel's arsenal.  They use homemafe unguided rockets
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: webstar on October 07, 2023, 06:14:41 PM
Israel dont advertise killing Palestinians

This.

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2023, 06:35:29 PM
Gave them back their money we've held and collected interest in for over 40 years...and they would have attacked anyway

Bullshit. They’re a listed terrorists state and the timing of this $6 billion is suspicious besides being used for negotiating prisoner swaps. It’s always been the policy of the US  to not pay ransom (which is exactly what this is) for prisoners but that broke when Biden’s puppeteer, Obama dropped like $1.7 billion on a pallet of cash in the middle of the night. Level the fucking country

Funny how Israel came under attack just a week or two after they were given the $6 bil. Fucking Biden has been installed for over two years and in that time 2 full blown wars have broken out.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Goliathon on October 07, 2023, 06:36:12 PM
What's newsworthy about it?
Could be one step closer to world war 3. The more wars America is getting dragged into the more there will be.

World War 3 won't be like in the movies, it'll be a series of wars 5-10, where america has to split it's reach and troops across the entire continent of asia.

Palestine is now in an Alliance with Russia/China/Iran even if it is simply out of necessity.

If Saudia Arabia is in on this as well World War 3 has already been started.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Goliathon on October 07, 2023, 06:38:59 PM
Against Pharoah?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/ad/cb/92adcbc08eeb33626744605c28ef4958.jpg)

I'm not joking, I'll be reading the old testament tonight. Could be the start of Holocaust 2.0.

People pretend Ukrainians are our western brothers, but they have nothing to do with us, they just happen to be white. Israel on the other hand is the foundry of Christian Civilization.

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2023, 07:11:45 PM
“Death to  Israel” “Death to USA”

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyG8oytuiqC/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 07, 2023, 07:59:25 PM
Bullshit. They’re a listed terrorists state and the timing of this $6 billion is suspicious besides being used for negotiating prisoner swaps. It’s always been the policy of the US  to not pay ransom (which is exactly what this is) for prisoners but that broke when Biden’s puppeteer, Obama dropped like $1.7 billion on a pallet of cash in the middle of the night. Level the fucking country

Funny how Israel came under attack just a week or two after they were given the $6 bil. Fucking Biden has been installed for over two years and in that time 2 full blown wars have broken out.


I doubt they received a dime from Iran...would not have made a difference with all of the sanctions thry have.  Cant buy weapons if no-one can sell them to you.  They attacked with the same homemade bottle rockets they generally use...just launched a shitload of them this time
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2023, 08:29:45 PM
Who fucking cares, 40 years ago this would have been a 60 second segment on the BBC News

What i want to read tomorrow or in the next week

Israel at War

China reclaims Taiwan

Belarus returns to Russia while Ukraine falls

Poland conquers left part of Ukraine

North Korea sets its eyes on South Korea and Marches on as India, Pakistan, Iran and Syria launches what they have on Nato
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2023, 08:31:53 PM
Are we on the brink of WW3?

The Precipice of War?

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: benchmstr on October 07, 2023, 08:44:57 PM
Maybe i missed it
Go spread aids somewhere else

Bench
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Mayday on October 07, 2023, 08:46:18 PM
Are we on the brink of WW3?

The Precipice of War?

On the brink of sanctions and embargoes on energy.

If history repeats in 2024-25 you will be paying around USD13/gallon.

Let’s see you fuckers take holidays on planes when that happens LoL 😂

Reality check coming for 98% of people who are on planet Mars thinking they’re going to be driving everywhere in 2027.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 07, 2023, 08:55:19 PM

I doubt they received a dime from Iran...would not have made a difference with all of the sanctions thry have.  Cant buy weapons if no-one can sell them to you.  They attacked with the same homemade bottle rockets they generally use...just launched a shitload of them this time

Lol - you think Hamas or ANYONE has ANY trouble procuring weaponry?? News flash - WE sell them arms!!
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 07, 2023, 08:58:32 PM
What i want to read tomorrow or in the next week

Israel at War

China reclaims Taiwan

Belarus returns to Russia while Ukraine falls

Poland conquers left part of Ukraine

North Korea sets its eyes on South Korea and Marches on as India, Pakistan, Iran and Syria launches what they have on Nato

As official Martian ambassador to Earth - I approve
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 07, 2023, 10:16:00 PM
Lol - you think Hamas or ANYONE has ANY trouble procuring weaponry?? News flash - WE sell them arms!!


If that's the case, why the fuck aren't they using them??  Its because they don't have any.  They invaded Israel with fucking motorcycles, pickup trucks and paragliders..PARAGLIDERS because they have no tanks, armored vehicles, fighter jets, airplanes, etc.  They are using improvised weapons...fucking rockets using sugar for a propellant.   I'll give them credit because they knocked Israel on their ass by surprise with the shitty equipment ever but Israel literally has the same stuff as we do, they are going to stomp them out like roaches

I mean look at this...Paraglider

(https://i.insider.com/652125756e038039826ca090?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 08, 2023, 12:01:52 AM
Now we'll hear about WW3 and Covid can mysteriously disappear.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: honest on October 08, 2023, 12:17:32 AM
On the brink of sanctions and embargoes on energy.

If history repeats in 2024-25 you will be paying around USD13/gallon.

Let’s see you fuckers take holidays on planes when that happens LoL 😂

Reality check coming for 98% of people who are on planet Mars thinking they’re going to be driving everywhere in 2027.

I agree with you,Israel go hard, OPEC states put pressure on the west to rein them in through restricting oil supply, inflation goes through the roof. We living in the 70s again, im old but not that old, but im doing my reading, global governments and banks only need another war to push rates higher.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Mayday on October 08, 2023, 03:50:05 AM
I agree with you,Israel go hard, OPEC states put pressure on the west to rein them in through restricting oil supply, inflation goes through the roof. We living in the 70s again, im old but not that old, but im doing my reading, global governments and banks only need another war to push rates higher.

At the core They want shortages. These will run out to 2030 which is why I said from 2020 to buy your wants. Even I’m grimacing at how much this next wave is going to hurt and I’m prepared For it lol.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Gym Rat on October 08, 2023, 03:55:26 AM
Libturds are put in power to hurt everyone. Why do retards vote in and support libturdz??  ??? ???
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Fortress on October 08, 2023, 04:34:50 AM
Fortress knows what he’s been told.

Which are essentially lies.

Muzzies can get fucked. Joos can get fucked.

Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.

Drop a bomb on me or leave me (us) out if it.

This world and its dominant organism is first-rate fucked.

Metal For Life

Hail and Kill

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: illuminati on October 08, 2023, 04:41:55 AM

With what??  They dont come close to measuring up to Israel's arsenal.  They use homemafe unguided rockets

And american hardware sent to Ukraine & sold to them.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2023, 04:55:33 AM
400 Israelis killed so far by the Hamas missiles
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: joswift on October 08, 2023, 05:43:54 AM
400 Israelis killed so far by the Hamas missiles
Imagine if they could aim them properly
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: webstar on October 08, 2023, 05:45:21 AM
400 Israelis killed so far by the Hamas missiles

What happened the iron dome the USA paid for?

Or did they ship it to Ukraine?
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Gym Rat on October 08, 2023, 05:46:12 AM
Arent libturds in love w/ whacky Palestine??   ??? ???
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: The Horny Prince on October 08, 2023, 06:56:19 AM
So Israel gets to carry out its final solution on “terrorists” AKA a starved, abused, and crippled indigenous population, and we are all supposed to show support for them?

The Israeli apartheid system was always designed to create living conditions so intolerable as to incite violence. If we want to now talk about hostage taking, let’s talk about the two million people taken hostage in concentration camps on their own land, and the arbitrary detentions and torture.

If we are talking terrorism, let’s talk about Israel’s violations of international law.

Let’s talk about the seizures of Palestinian land and property. Let’s talk about the thousands of homes that have been leveled to the ground, and the tens of thousands of civilians, a large percentage of them children, maimed and killed by Israeli Stormtroopers.

One thing I’ve noticed is that Getbiggers are rarely consistent.  Do we think the USA invading Iraq on a pretext of lies is ok?

Do we think that the reputation of American military intelligence wasn't forever diminished by their actions?

We invaded Iraq over a lie, and lost credibility on the world stage. Iraq was a major fuck-up.

Are we ok with lying about a pretext for war?  If yes, why?

My good friend and one of Canada’s pound-for-pound strongest men quit the Canadian Army over that, so you might say I have strong feelings over it. That piece of shit George Bush Jr. lied through his teeth about Iraq and Saddam Hussein, and everyone knows it. And now, the same thing is happening again. Lies, propaganda, brain washing, and murder of innocents. And we are led to believe that this is a righteous cause.

It is rather shocking to me the degree to which people don’t care about the government taking away the freedoms of others. Stupid fucks. Fucking phaggots. Oh yeah, like they won’t do the exact same thing to you when the time comes?

I can assure you all, everything being said about Palestine is a Jewish fairy tale. They did the same thing with Hitler.

None of the claims about Germans withstand any scrutiny.

I'd normally just tell you to Google this topic - you can learn a lot. But Google is highly censorious.

I think Jews also project their involvement in communism on Germans, who had every right to boot out their Jewish bankers, after masses of them starved. Anyone who is surprised Hitler emerged in Germany is a moron.

Also, there is no evidence The Holocaust happened as written.

That's why you get jailed or banned anywhere online for questioning it.

I ALWAYS assume anything being banned is the truth. That's how I knew the Covid narrative was bullshit - because anything counter-narrative was banned.

It’s why I know that the narrative they give about Hamas now is utter bullshit.

I look at the agitation in Iran in similar fashion. I mean, did Jews really think they were going to get a war with Iran going after the shit-show they caused in Iraq? LOL! Wait...really?   

Most of the mainstream claims about Hitler are bullshit. "Hitler had one testicle", 'Hitler had an easy job in WWI", "Hitler was a Rothschild", etc. All bullshit. And many more. I look at all of the claims about the conflict in Palestine through the same lens: the lens of Jewish propaganda.

My heart breaks for the families now being butchered by their bloodthirsty Jewish oppressors. If Palestine is to burn, so too must the 350 lb. permabulker, propagandist, and Getbig mastermind, Ron. fat disgusting cheeseburger eating piece of shit. Fire up the oven!










Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: GymnJuice on October 08, 2023, 07:24:23 AM
Same old song and dance. 

We will pay the taxes and the military contractors will get fat off the war. Good time to invest in Lockheed and Raytheon.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 08, 2023, 07:53:11 AM
And american hardware sent to Ukraine & sold to them.


I dont want our money spent on those hohol's neither
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 08, 2023, 08:02:04 AM
So Israel gets to carry out its final solution on “terrorists” AKA a starved, abused, and crippled indigenous population, and we are all supposed to show support for them?

The Israeli apartheid system was always designed to create living conditions so intolerable as to incite violence. If we want to now talk about hostage taking, let’s talk about the two million people taken hostage in concentration camps on their own land, and the arbitrary detentions and torture.

If we are talking terrorism, let’s talk about Israel’s violations of international law.

Let’s talk about the seizures of Palestinian land and property. Let’s talk about the thousands of homes that have been leveled to the ground, and the tens of thousands of civilians, a large percentage of them children, maimed and killed by Israeli Stormtroopers.

One thing I’ve noticed is that Getbiggers are rarely consistent.  Do we think the USA invading Iraq on a pretext of lies is ok?

Do we think that the reputation of American military intelligence wasn't forever diminished by their actions?

We invaded Iraq over a lie, and lost credibility on the world stage. Iraq was a major fuck-up.

Are we ok with lying about a pretext for war?  If yes, why?

My good friend and one of Canada’s pound-for-pound strongest men quit the Canadian Army over that, so you might say I have strong feelings over it. That piece of shit George Bush Jr. lied through his teeth about Iraq and Saddam Hussein, and everyone knows it. And now, the same thing is happening again. Lies, propaganda, brain washing, and murder of innocents. And we are led to believe that this is a righteous cause.

It is rather shocking to me the degree to which people don’t care about the government taking away the freedoms of others. Stupid fucks. Fucking phaggots. Oh yeah, like they won’t do the exact same thing to you when the time comes?

Well put.  Lost me after this part though LOL
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 08, 2023, 08:13:32 AM
Well put.  Lost me after this part though LOL

Lol, classic Matt Horny Prince. Started off factual and logical, then quickly deteriorated into a ranting, incoherent digression. Ron is going to go mental when he reads that.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 08, 2023, 09:16:14 AM
"Ukraine 2 - The Search For More Money"

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Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 08, 2023, 09:22:29 AM

Why not just post under your Matt C account?
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2023, 09:36:08 AM
How Biden Helped Fund Hamas’s Allies Before Unprecedented Israel Attack

Entities known to maintain friendly ties to the Palestinian terrorist organization Hamas, from the Iranian Islamist regime to Venezuelan socialist dictator Nicolás Maduro, have enjoyed years of financial benefits from eased sanctions under leftist President Joe Biden – benefits meriting closer scrutiny in light of the unprecedented wave of terrorism striking Israel on Saturday.

Israeli authorities estimate that over 300 people have died and identified nearly 1,600 wounded in the past 24 hours as a result of thousands of rocket bombings and waves of street attacks against civilians. Reports indicate that Hamas terrorists took an unknown number of Israeli civilians – estimated to total in the dozens and include women, children, and elderly people with dementia – hostage. Terrorists have flooded social media with graphic videos appearing to show the torture of hostages.

Hamas has branded the terror spree the “al-Aqsa Deluge” and vowed that the attacks would continue indefinitely.

The Palestinian terror attack happened on the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret, the final day of the annual High Holy Day cycle.

The attacks followed years of Biden administration policies aiding supporters of Palestinian terrorism. Most recently, in September, a report revealed that the State Department granted over $90,000 in funding to the Phoenix Center for Research and Field Studies in Gaza, a “non-governmental” group that describes itself as supporting “armed resistance” against Israel.

Less directly, but perhaps more influentially, the Biden administration has aided some of Hamas’s most high-profile international supporters.

While a Sunni Arab organization, Hamas has long maintained close ties to the Shiite regime in Iran. After a brief chill in relations during the early years of the Syrian Civil War, the Islamic regime and the terrorist organization restored their association to the point that the head of Hamas identified Tehran as its “largest backer financially and militarily.” Military experts studying drones used during the attack on Saturday suggested that they were at least inspired by Iranian designs, if not outright Iranian-made weapons.

The “supreme leader” of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, celebrated the carnage on his Twitter account on Saturday, writing, “God willing, the cancer of the usurper Zionist regime will be eradicated at the hands of the Palestinian people.”

Appeasement policies towards Iran have been a cornerstone of the Biden administration’s approach to the Middle East. Tehran most recently received word that the White House would move to allow it to access $6 billion in assets frozen as part of sanctions on the country for its funding of terrorist activity. Biden reportedly traded the $6 billion for the release of five Americans held hostage in Iranian prisons. The United States reportedly facilitated the unfreezing of the $6 billion, held in South Korea, and the transfer of the money to Iranian ally Qatar before the Americans were freed.

“This is not a ransom,” White House National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby insisted in August, before reports citing Biden administration officials confirmed the agreement on September 11.

Khamenei marked the anniversary of the September 11, 2001, jihadist attacks with a speech celebrating the demise of the United States.

“The main lines of this transformation are several things: First of all, the weakening of the world’s arrogant powers,” Khamenei said. “They themselves say that the indicators of American power in the world like economy are declining. One of the most important indicators of American power was the strong American economy; they say it is declining.”

“Hamas is being funded and equipped by Tehran … which the U.S. has been appeasing and enabling in recent months, as billions of dollars have flowed into the regime’s coffers,” Jake Wallis Simons, editor of the Jewish Chronicle observed this weekend.

The $6 billion gift bookends a policy that began early in the Biden administration. In June 2021, Biden lifted sanctions on three former Iranian officials and two companies sanctioned for engaging the Iranian oil industry, on the grounds that the targeted entities had allegedly made a “verified change in behavior or status.”

One of Biden’s first acts in office – in February 2021 – was the removal of one of Iran’s closest terrorist allies in the region, the Yemeni Houthi movement, from the American government’s list of designated foreign terrorist organizations. The Houthis, also known as Ansarallah, have engaged in a bloody civil war in Yemen for nearly a decade under their slogan, “Allah is great, death to the United States, death to Israel, curse the Jews, victory for Islam.”

Secretary of State Antony Blinken plainly stated that the revocation of the terror designation was not as a result of the Houthis ceasing to engage in terrorist activity. Rather, the objective of lifting the sanctions was to allow money to flow into Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen, allegedly.

“By focusing on alleviating the humanitarian situation in Yemen, we hope the Yemeni parties can also focus on engaging in dialogue,” Blinken said at the time.

Rather than “focus on engaging in dialogue,” the Houthis expanded their terrorist activities into Saudi Arabia.

While a Shiite terrorist group, the Houthis and the leaders of Hamas have publicly expressed solidarity with each other’s causes, even in the face of criticism from their supporters.

Across the globe, in Venezuela, the Biden administration has also worked to ease sanctions on the socialist regime’s oil industry, despite a documented, long-term relationship between dictator Nicolás Maduro and terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah. The largest windfall to Venezuela came in the form of the Biden administration allowing the American company Chevron to begin “limited” oil production in the country, which requires cooperation with Maduro’s state oil corporation, Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA)

Oil production, which cratered after decades of socialist mismanagement of PDVSA facilities and sanctions on the oil industry, has skyrocketed since November in the country. Venezuela jointly announced with the dictatorships of Iran and Syria last week that all three would soon collaborate on the construction of an oil refinery in Homs, a hollowed-out former opposition stronghold during the Syrian Civil War. All three will profit from the completed operation.

The three countries had initially announced an interest in building such a refinery in Homs in 2017, but did not follow up on the plan after President Donald Trump imposed heavy sanctions on both Iran and Venezuela.

Iran and Venezuela have been close allies since the tenure of late dictator Hugo Chávez. Then a foreign minister, Maduro reportedly first met with the head of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, in 2007, to cut a deal on allegedly aiding the jihadists in procuring weapons, profiting from drug trafficking, and receiving passports. In 2020, the U.S. government charged a close associate of Maduro’s, Adel El Zabayar, with engaging in narco-terrorism through the attempted sale of cocaine in America to fund Hezbollah and Hamas.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/07/how-biden-helped-fund-hamass-allies-before-unprecedented-israel-attack/A
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 08, 2023, 09:41:38 AM

If that's the case, why the fuck aren't they using them??  Its because they don't have any.  They invaded Israel with fucking motorcycles, pickup trucks and paragliders..PARAGLIDERS because they have no tanks, armored vehicles, fighter jets, airplanes, etc.  They are using improvised weapons...fucking rockets using sugar for a propellant.   I'll give them credit because they knocked Israel on their ass by surprise with the shitty equipment ever but Israel literally has the same stuff as we do, they are going to stomp them out like roaches

I mean look at this...Paraglider

(https://i.insider.com/652125756e038039826ca090?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp)

They probably got goaded into it. Now, Israel has a pretext for a war which will probably replace Ukraine as the endless war du jour.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 08, 2023, 09:42:57 AM
Fortress knows what he’s been told.

Which are essentially lies.

Muzzies can get fucked. Joos can get fucked.

Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.

Drop a bomb on me or leave me (us) out if it.

This world and its dominant organism is first-rate fucked.

Metal For Life

Hail and Kill

Unless you’re a military contractor, there’s no reason to give a fvck.

Leftists seem to have adopted Palestinians as their Middle East pets, their sand Dindus. What’s so special about these people? They are far from the worst off people in the world. There are many parts of Africa where the lifespan is 20 years less than in Palestine.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Tapeworm on October 08, 2023, 10:11:45 AM
They probably got goated into it.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: gmflex on October 08, 2023, 10:39:28 AM
         ;D.                                          ;D


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     ;D.                                           ;D
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Gym Rat on October 08, 2023, 10:40:46 AM
The pant-shitter regime is one of the most insane and evil, EVER...
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 08, 2023, 10:49:17 AM
Unless you’re a military contractor, there’s no reason to give a fvck.

Leftists seem to have adopted Palestinians as their Middle East pets, their sand Dindus. What’s so special about these people? They are far from the worst off people in the world. There are many parts of Africa where the lifespan is 20 years less than in Palestine.

Maybe if the Israeli state were trying to round up Palestinians and force them to take a Covid vaccine you might appreciate that it's not about "these people." It's about all people, and the principle that a person's right to life and liberty should not be mercilessly crushed under the boot of a murderous regime which is being supported and funded by the self-proclaimed leading exemplar of human rights and democracy. Allah have mercy. I can't even...
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: IroNat on October 08, 2023, 10:55:03 AM
Anybody see the "Golden Bachelor"?

Really good.

 
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 08, 2023, 11:12:04 AM
Maybe if the Israeli state were trying to round up Palestinians and force them to take a Covid vaccine you might appreciate that it's not about "these people." It's about all people, and the principle that a person's right to life and liberty should not be mercilessly crushed under the boot of a murderous regime which is being supported and funded by the self-proclaimed leading exemplar of human rights and democracy. Allah have mercy. I can't even...



If they’re really committing genocide, they’re doing a shit job. A Palestian woman’s life expectancy is about the same as mine.

Do you give a fuck about the parts of Africa where the life expectancy in the 50’s?


https://www.ceicdata.com/en/palestinian-territory-occupied/vital-statistics/life-expectancy-at-birth-gaza-strip-female

State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) Life Expectancy at Birth: Gaza Strip: Female data was reported at 74.600 Year in 2018. This records an increase from the previous number of 74.500 Year for 2017. State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) Life Expectancy at Birth: Gaza Strip: Female data is updated yearly, averaging 73.100 Year from Dec 1997 to 2018, with 18 observations. The data reached an all-time high of 74.600 Year in 2018 and a record low of 71.000 Year in 1997. State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) Life Expectancy at Birth: Gaza Strip: Female data remains active status in CEIC and is reported by Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics. The data is categorized under Global Database’s State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) – Table PS.G002: Vital Statistics.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 08, 2023, 11:13:29 AM

https://saharareporters.com/2023/01/30/nigeria-chad-top-list-countries-lowest-life-expectancy-globally-worse-somalia-report

The top 10 countries of the world with the shortest life expectancy include: Chad - 52.5 years; Nigeria - 52.7 years; Lesotho - 53.1 years; Central African Republic - 53.9; South Sudan - 55 years; Somalia - 55.3 years; Eswatini - 57.1 years; Cote d-Ivoire - 58.6 years; Guinea - 58.9 years and Mali - 58.9
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2023, 11:20:24 AM

If that's the case, why the fuck aren't they using them??  Its because they don't have any.  They invaded Israel with fucking motorcycles, pickup trucks and paragliders..PARAGLIDERS because they have no tanks, armored vehicles, fighter jets, airplanes, etc.  They are using improvised weapons...fucking rockets using sugar for a propellant.   I'll give them credit because they knocked Israel on their ass by surprise with the shitty equipment ever but Israel literally has the same stuff as we do, they are going to stomp them out like roaches

I mean look at this...Paraglider

(https://i.insider.com/652125756e038039826ca090?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp)

Report: U.S. Weapons from Afghanistan Ended up with Palestinian Groups Operating in the Gaza Strip

The Biden administration pushed back against those accusations that the $6 billion unfrozen for Iran went to Sunday’s attack, saying it has not yet been released, is controlled by a Qatari bank, and only will be used for humanitarian purposes.

However, critics of the Biden administration argued that since money is fungible, it is still adding to Iran’s coffers and frees up the government to spend on other things, such as supporting terrorist groups like Hamas.

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) told Breitbart News in an exclusive interview on Saturday:

The $6 billion has not been accessed completely by Iran yet, but the fact of the matter is if you have a credit on your account for $6 billion, typically, people count that as access available today, tomorrow, whenever, so you start reworking your spending budget.

And by doing so, you put yourself in a position to use that money even though you have not had access to it yet. So the $6 billion that they know they’re getting, they’re using already.

He also noted that Iran has already expressed it would use the money however it desired.

That is clear. The way they want to is in funding terrorism against American allies,” he said.

The Israeli commander interviewed by Newsweek also said he was “very worried” that U.S. and Western-provided weapons to Ukraine could also end up in Hamas’ hands.

Newsweek reported:

The Israeli commander, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the topic, said the diversion of weapons, such as the Javelin shoulder-fired anti-tank missile system, was being monitored from paramilitary forces operating on both sides of the Russia-Ukraine war.

The Israeli commander said pro-Russian formations were motivated to transfer captured U.S.-supplied weapons due to the close defense relationship between Moscow and Tehran, while pro-Ukrainian elements were largely motivated by money to smuggle arms. The commander said the primary route was via the Black Sea to the Mediterranean, and argued that the situation was “very dangerous” due to two primary concerns for Israel.

“One is that they can research capabilities, and then learn how to manufacture them. I’m talking especially about Iran,” the Israeli commander told Newsweek. “The other problem is that we are very worried that some of these capabilities are going to fall to Hezbollah and Hamas’ hands.”

Newsweek also reported that another source disclosed a specific event on August 20 where a Russian Il-76 transport aircraft allegedly dropped off cargo in Tehran worth an estimated $100 million, which included Western weapons such as U.S.-made Javelins and United Kingdom-made Next Generation Light Anti-armor weapons (NLAWs).

The U.S. Government remains keenly aware of the risk of possible illicit diversion, and is proactively taking steps to mitigate this risk in close cooperation with the government of Ukraine,” a U.S. State Department spokesperson told the outlet.

“We are sending weapons to help Ukraine defend itself in an active conflict, and realistically must acknowledge that there is a risk these weapons could be captured if territory changes hands, as can happens in any war.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/08/report-u-s-weapons-from-afghanistan-ended-up-with-palestinian-groups-operating-in-the-gaza-strip/

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 08, 2023, 11:50:39 AM


If they’re really committing genocide, they’re doing a shit job. A Palestian woman’s life expectancy is about the same as mine.

Do you give a fuck about the parts of Africa where the life expectancy in the 50’s?


https://www.ceicdata.com/en/palestinian-territory-occupied/vital-statistics/life-expectancy-at-birth-gaza-strip-female

State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) Life Expectancy at Birth: Gaza Strip: Female data was reported at 74.600 Year in 2018. This records an increase from the previous number of 74.500 Year for 2017. State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) Life Expectancy at Birth: Gaza Strip: Female data is updated yearly, averaging 73.100 Year from Dec 1997 to 2018, with 18 observations. The data reached an all-time high of 74.600 Year in 2018 and a record low of 71.000 Year in 1997. State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) Life Expectancy at Birth: Gaza Strip: Female data remains active status in CEIC and is reported by Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics. The data is categorized under Global Database’s State of Palestine (West Bank and Gaza) – Table PS.G002: Vital Statistics.

This is embarrassing. You're better than this, surely. We've already established that we are talking about a fundamental principle of freedom. A principle that you already care deeply about, as evidenced by your postings, yet your personal biases which have been shaped by propaganda from the very people you rail against are now preventing you from extending the logic to a case further away from home.

So you want to justify the treatment of the Palestinians by pointing to average life expectancy? Lol, great. Let's take the figure as accurate, but first, let's also distinguish between genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Israelis have been enacting a policy of ethnic cleansing, not genocide. But that's likely about to change.

Now, given that the Palestinians apparently have the same average life expectancy as you, and this is great, shouldn’t you shut the fuck up about forced vaccines and be grateful that so many of you now make it into your seventies? It's not like quality of life, basic equal rights, and the ability to participate in the decisions that shape your existence matter at all.

Maybe the state should take away your right to bear arms too, given that it might prevent suicides and accidents, then you'll all live even longer. Why care? After all, you've got it better than the Palestinians.

It's not like you're subjected to arbitrary detentions, revocations of residency permits, physical and verbal abuse, deportation, gunfire, land theft, home invasions, restrictions on movements and every other example of brutal treatment well documented and condemned by the international community. And why even care at all! If you care about one example of human rights abuses, you'll have to care about them all, and obviously that’s just inconceivable to you. How could this be?

Honestly, I can't believe I gave up my teaching position at the mosque to post here full time. Ron does not pay me enough for this. I must be mad!
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: GymnJuice on October 08, 2023, 11:55:49 AM
I think it is healthy to ask why our government sends our money there.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: The Scott on October 08, 2023, 12:05:32 PM
This is embarrassing. You're better than this, surely. We've already established that we are talking about a fundamental principle of freedom. A principle that you already care deeply about, as evidenced by your postings, yet your personal biases which have been shaped by propaganda from the very people you rail against are now preventing you from extending the logic to a case further away from home.

So you want to justify the treatment of the Palestinians by pointing to average life expectancy? Lol, great. Let's take the figure as accurate, but first, let's also distinguish between genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Israelis have been enacting a policy of ethnic cleansing, not genocide. But that's likely about to change.

Now, given that the Palestinians apparently have the same average life expectancy as you, and this is great, shouldn’t you shut the fuck up about forced vaccines and be grateful that so many of you now make it into your seventies? It's not like quality of life, basic equal rights, and the ability to participate in the decisions that shape your existence matter at all.

Maybe the state should take away your right to bear arms too, given that it might prevent suicides and accidents, then you'll all live even longer. Why care? After all, you've got it better than the Palestinians.

It's not like you're subjected to arbitrary detentions, revocations of residency permits, physical and verbal abuse, deportation, gunfire, land theft, home invasions, restrictions on movements and every other example of brutal treatment well documented and condemned by the international community. And why even care at all! If you care about one example of human rights abuses, you'll have to care about them all, and obviously that’s just inconceivable to you. How could this be?

Honestly, I can't believe I gave up my teaching position at the mosque to post here full time. Ron does not pay me enough for this. I must be mad!

Palestinians are scum.  Not even other arabs want them around.  Now then, fuck off and die cuz islime sucks ass.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 08, 2023, 12:14:12 PM
Palestinians are scum.  Not even other arabs want them around.  Now then, fuck off and die cuz islime sucks ass.

Okay “Reeves” lollolol. When you say to fuck off and die, do you mean in the sense that I should fake my own death on a message board for attention because I'm a pathologically lying, intellectually stunted waste of space? Or do you mean in the literal sense, as in what you're currently in the process of doing because you're a retard who overdoses on COVID vaccines and caffeine?
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: The Scott on October 08, 2023, 12:22:26 PM
Okay “Reeves” lollolol. When you say to fuck off and die, do you mean in the sense that I should fake my own death on a message board for attention because I'm a pathologically lying, intellectually stunted waste of space? Or do you mean in the literal sense, as in what you're currently in the process of doing because you're a retard who overdoses on COVID vaccines and caffeine?

As if your pathetic intellect is up to the task.  This ain't the  real world but you are the one playing at being mooslime. I despise islime so I despise you.   Oh wait...

(https://i.imgflip.com/81vt0h.jpg)
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 08, 2023, 12:30:22 PM
As if your pathetic intellect is up to the task.  This ain't the  real world but you are the one playing at being mooslime. I despise islime so I despise you.   Oh wait...

(https://i.imgflip.com/81vt0h.jpg)

So the man who once pretended to be the now-deceased 4ft midget who taught you your tenuous grasp of basic English is questioning my identity? Lololol, Allah have mercy. Perhaps the only accurate statement you've ever made is that you have a sub-80 IQ. Having my intellect questioned by you is like having my bodyfat percentage questioned by Shizzo.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: honest on October 08, 2023, 03:07:25 PM
Let the jews and Arabs sort it out amongst themselves, radicals on both sides, let them and their gods go at it.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: BigRo on October 08, 2023, 03:32:55 PM
This is embarrassing. You're better than this, surely. We've already established that we are talking about a fundamental principle of freedom. A principle that you already care deeply about, as evidenced by your postings, yet your personal biases which have been shaped by propaganda from the very people you rail against are now preventing you from extending the logic to a case further away from home.

So you want to justify the treatment of the Palestinians by pointing to average life expectancy? Lol, great. Let's take the figure as accurate, but first, let's also distinguish between genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Israelis have been enacting a policy of ethnic cleansing, not genocide. But that's likely about to change.

Now, given that the Palestinians apparently have the same average life expectancy as you, and this is great, shouldn’t you shut the fuck up about forced vaccines and be grateful that so many of you now make it into your seventies? It's not like quality of life, basic equal rights, and the ability to participate in the decisions that shape your existence matter at all.

Maybe the state should take away your right to bear arms too, given that it might prevent suicides and accidents, then you'll all live even longer. Why care? After all, you've got it better than the Palestinians.

It's not like you're subjected to arbitrary detentions, revocations of residency permits, physical and verbal abuse, deportation, gunfire, land theft, home invasions, restrictions on movements and every other example of brutal treatment well documented and condemned by the international community. And why even care at all! If you care about one example of human rights abuses, you'll have to care about them all, and obviously that’s just inconceivable to you. How could this be?

Honestly, I can't believe I gave up my teaching position at the mosque to post here full time. Ron does not pay me enough for this. I must be mad!

Yes things are going to get very bad but why does Hamas have to do what it does if everyone knows the extent of Israel's response?

Stay strong HaramBelly
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: joswift on October 08, 2023, 04:01:22 PM
Yes things are going to get very bad but why does Hamas have to do what it does if everyone knows the extent of Israel's response?

Stay strong HaramBelly
Desperation maybe?
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Flexacon on October 08, 2023, 05:51:31 PM
Yes things are going to get very bad but why does Hamas have to do what it does if everyone knows the extent of Israel's response?

Stay strong HaramBelly

72 virgins. That's why.
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: Flexacon on October 08, 2023, 06:15:54 PM
Saudis (sunni muslims) were actually seeking for friendlier ties with Israel for trade. This would have weakend Iran (shia muslims) so they green lit the Hamas attack to destabilize the region.

The 73 war was mostly Sunni/Arabs vs Israel, so a lot of the oil states. If this escalates it will most likely be Shia/Iran vs Israel, so fewer oil states.

After initial volatility a Shia/Iran vs Israel war could actually result in oil price actually going down. If all of the middle east goes to war then it could be worse than 73. First scenario looks more likely right now (that or an eventual ceasefire)
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: obsidian on October 08, 2023, 06:17:19 PM
https://saharareporters.com/2023/01/30/nigeria-chad-top-list-countries-lowest-life-expectancy-globally-worse-somalia-report

The top 10 countries of the world with the shortest life expectancy include: Chad - 52.5 years; Nigeria - 52.7 years; Lesotho - 53.1 years; Central African Republic - 53.9; South Sudan - 55 years; Somalia - 55.3 years; Eswatini - 57.1 years; Cote d-Ivoire - 58.6 years; Guinea - 58.9 years and Mali - 58.9
Somalians will soon have a higher life expectancy after they take over Sweden. Until Russia arrives - oh wait!
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: obsidian on October 08, 2023, 06:18:15 PM
Anyone else notice the world is turning to shit fast under the biden regime? Stolen elections have consequences...
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: obsidian on October 08, 2023, 06:21:26 PM
What i want to read tomorrow or in the next week

Israel at War

China reclaims Taiwan

Belarus returns to Russia while Ukraine falls

Poland conquers left part of Ukraine

North Korea sets its eyes on South Korea and Marches on as India, Pakistan, Iran and Syria launches what they have on Nato
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba II over DC.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba III over NY.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba IV over CHI.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba V over LA.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba VI over SF.

(https://media.tenor.com/z4eSZzvuuZkAAAAC/popcorn-dance.gif)
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2023, 06:42:10 PM
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba II over DC.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba III over NY.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba IV over CHI.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba V over LA.
Russia tests 100 megaton Tzar Bomba VI over SF.

(https://media.tenor.com/z4eSZzvuuZkAAAAC/popcorn-dance.gif)

YES!

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2023, 06:44:19 PM
72 virgins. That's why.

Yeh, their faith tells them to do stuff in this plane of existence merely to gain favors in the next (72 virgins et al)
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Skeletor on October 08, 2023, 06:49:17 PM
Yeh, their faith tells them to do stuff in this plane of existence merely to gain favors in the next (72 virgins et al)

It doesn't specify the type of virgins that await them though. Imagine if they are greeted by 72 virgins of this variety:

(https://www.pngjoy.com/pngm/316/5942787_neckbeard-fat-gamer-nerd-hd-png-download.png)

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 08, 2023, 07:18:52 PM
Nuke the middle east.

Nothing good will ever come out of this.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Tapeworm on October 08, 2023, 07:47:26 PM
Depends what you mean by good.

It has the greatest quantity of the world's #1 resource for the last 100 years. That's difficult to ignore. Instability has been what enables its extraction. If the whole region truly united they could hold the world to ransom.

The Western powers which employed various imperial strategies over there for more than a century in the interest of oil are the same ones which backed the Zionist project. Maybe that's a coincidence.

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Goliathon on October 08, 2023, 08:25:39 PM
Let the jews and Arabs sort it out amongst themselves, radicals on both sides, let them and their gods go at it.

Muzzies and Jews dying, Trudeau be like


(https://i.imgflip.com/1xlwsy.jpg)

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2023, 09:25:03 PM
Netanyahu is just flat out leveling Gaza right now…
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on October 08, 2023, 11:14:34 PM

With Israel and Saudi Arabia going to sign a peace agreement, it would of been almost the end for Hamas.  Hamas is a terrorist group that controls via fear in Gaza, maybe 10-20,000 members, but control 2 million Palestinians in Gaza.  The attacks caught Israel's military and government by completely surprise, no doubt, and it cost over 700 lives of women, children and retirees. The worst of the insane killings of over 250 people having fun at a music festival.  The question of what happened to intelligence and the failures are being asked by everyone in the state and more.

However, what Hamas has done is Israel's 9-11.  They have put the left and right wing of government together, and because of the veracity of the attack, there is only one option now for Israel.  To root out Hamas out of Gaza.  They can no longer be there ruling and terrorizing the 2 million Palestinians.  With a declaration of war, Hamas hiding in bunkers underground at the hospital, at the schools, at the mosques - these targets which have never been hit are now going to be, with a vengeance, with ground troops entering, and casualties will rise. 

Hamas has always said their goal is the destruction of Israel.  Always.  It is in their declaration and they have not wavered.  Liberals thought they could change.  No way. 

So many Israeli's and Palestinians want peace, and just to live their lives.  The radicals won't have that, and Hamas this weekend proved that.  So after Israel pulled out of Gaza without agreements, this is the result. 

Everything in this situation is bad, and it is only going to get worse.  Just like the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon to stop the PLO and remove them from that country, almost everything that is being said will result in Hamas being forced out of Gaza.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2023, 11:46:08 PM
This is a brilliant take…

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Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: _bruce_ on October 09, 2023, 12:07:48 AM
Nuke the middle east.

Nothing good will ever come out of this.

x2

Albeit it would have been better to never touch the region and just do some trading.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Kwon on October 09, 2023, 12:11:18 AM
x2

Albeit it would have been better to never touch the region and just do some trading.

Huge wall around Europe from the getgo imo :D

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 09, 2023, 12:20:08 AM
What happened the iron dome the USA paid for?

Or did they ship it to Ukraine?
Good question.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 09, 2023, 12:31:49 AM
Palestine has Penetrated Israel


Aftermath of the Target

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 09, 2023, 01:53:04 AM
Palestine has Penetrated Israel


Aftermath of the Target



Looks like old footage, all the cars are dusted up, and the so called dead israeli victims in the tent, no blood anywhere, no signs they where ever shot
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 09, 2023, 02:41:21 AM
Yes things are going to get very bad but why does Hamas have to do what it does if everyone knows the extent of Israel's response?

Stay strong HaramBelly

Look inward, Brother Ro. The answer to that question is flowing through your veins.

Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: _bruce_ on October 09, 2023, 05:26:03 AM
Huge wall around Europe from the getgo imo :D

All of the West should have followed a strict no intervention/isolation policy but the "establishment" loves to interefere and cause chaos. You never release power nor territory - anything else is suicide.

Pretty sure Ron will have to refurbish his leased M1 "Abrahams" tank and enter the fray.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 09, 2023, 05:27:41 AM
If your neighbour knocked the fence down between your properties and built one 6 feet on your side and took part of your garden what would you do?
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Goliathon on October 09, 2023, 05:29:40 AM
All of the West should have followed a strict no intervention/isolation policy but the "establishment" loves to interefere and cause chaos. You never release power nor territory - anything else is suicide.

Pretty sure Ron will have to refurbish his leased M1 "Abrahams" tank and enter the fray.
that's not an option they are at the top of the suez canal they'll never let israel fall
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 09, 2023, 05:30:00 AM
Insane libturds love their Palestine... Who are doing the same thing Russia did (Go on the attack)... Are they hating on Hamas/Palestine now??
Cant pick and choose your "violent attackers" can you??  ::)

Libz are so confused and clueless...
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: _bruce_ on October 09, 2023, 05:32:56 AM
that's not an option they are at the top of the suez canal they'll never let israel fall

You're right - Ron is already heading for the battlefield...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 09, 2023, 05:38:19 AM
Insane libturds love their Palestine... Who are doing the same thing Russia did (Go on the attack)... Are they hating on Hamas/Palestine now??
Cant pick and choose your "violent attackers" can you??  ::)

Libz are so confused and clueless...

Lol the media are idiots you cant pick a side unless your selling coffins.


Muzzies rape and murder the jews level cities rinse repeat.

This could easily escalate to a war more comparable to Iraq.

I wasn't joking when I said there will be a draft. And don't be shocked if they are drafting 50 50 women

The muzzies want to be slaughter so they can invoke Iranian troops in the ground.

They just need to rape enough women first.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on October 09, 2023, 05:43:22 AM
I stand with Israel!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 09, 2023, 06:43:06 AM
Unless you know someone personally who is involved why would you give a single fuck about people killed on the other side of the fucking world?

Life is cheap in the Middle East, its only in the West that people seem to give a fuck

Do you think anyone in Isael gave a fuck about the London Tube and Bus bombings in 2007?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: _bruce_ on October 09, 2023, 06:46:08 AM
Unless you know someone personally who is involved why would you give a single fuck about people killed on the other side of the fucking world?

Life is cheap in the Middle East, its only in the West that people seem to give a fuck

Do you think anyone in Isael gave a fuck about the London Tube and Bus bombings in 2007?

Don't spoil it for the goys 
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: The Horny Prince on October 09, 2023, 07:02:22 AM
With Israel and Saudi Arabia going to sign a peace agreement, it would of been almost the end for Hamas.  Hamas is a terrorist group that controls via fear in Gaza, maybe 10-20,000 members, but control 2 million Palestinians in Gaza.  The attacks caught Israel's military and government by completely surprise, no doubt, and it cost over 700 lives of women, children and retirees. The worst of the insane killings of over 250 people having fun at a music festival.  The question of what happened to intelligence and the failures are being asked by everyone in the state and more.

However, what Hamas has done is Israel's 9-11.  They have put the left and right wing of government together, and because of the veracity of the attack, there is only one option now for Israel.  To root out Hamas out of Gaza.  They can no longer be there ruling and terrorizing the 2 million Palestinians.  With a declaration of war, Hamas hiding in bunkers underground at the hospital, at the schools, at the mosques - these targets which have never been hit are now going to be, with a vengeance, with ground troops entering, and casualties will rise. 

Hamas has always said their goal is the destruction of Israel.  Always.  It is in their declaration and they have not wavered.  Liberals thought they could change.  No way. 

So many Israeli's and Palestinians want peace, and just to live their lives.  The radicals won't have that, and Hamas this weekend proved that.  So after Israel pulled out of Gaza without agreements, this is the result. 

Everything in this situation is bad, and it is only going to get worse.  Just like the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon to stop the PLO and remove them from that country, almost everything that is being said will result in Hamas being forced out of Gaza.

"What Hamas has done is Israel's 9-11."

You mean like actual 9-11, which Israel knew about way in advance of the attacks happening, and informed the U.S. in order to use the attacks as a window of opportunity to destabilize the Middle East and shape a narrative in the aftermath as opposed to preventing it in the first place?

When was Palestine’s 9-11, Ron? Was it in 2008, where 899 Palestinians were killed? Was it 2009, where 1,066 were killed? What about in 2014, where 2,329 of them were butchered? 2021, where 349 were killed? 2022, where 191 were killed? Sorry, Ron, I am struggling to place all of the six and a half thousand deaths since 2008, the vast majority of them civilian, at the hands of an evil regime which is based on the principle of discrimination. A regime that you support. Fucking phaggot.

But it’s all their fault, right? They have to scream that "Israel has a right to exist" while they are being beaten and murdered in the land they were born on.

It disgusts every fiber of my being that you expect the Palestinians to make peace with Israel when they live under exile and military occupation, with no prospect for the recognition of their basic rights. Do you really think Israel will ever accept an independent Palestinian state?  They will never have to so long as there are Jew Americans like you swinging from their balls.

It has long been a gratifying pastime for apologists like you to seek out inflammatory and mostly false statements made by Arabs in order to frame Israel’s struggle as an unwinnable one in the face of intransigent Palestinian hostility.

So Hamas has "always said their goal is the destruction of Israel." And Israel will now "root out" the "terrorist group" from Gaza? LOL!

You mean the democratically elected government who, since their creation in the 1980s, offered settlement proposals which were all rejected. And who frequently observed ceasefires under the provision that Israel would end blockades and stop attacking alleged militants in their communities – something Israel never did.

The Hamas charter, which fatass propagandists like you are so keen on citing, is irrelevant and written by a small group of men in the 1980s. It never formed part of their political program and they clearly stated that they would agree to a long-term truce and accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders.

Israel has only ever sought to maintain the situation they created, which was to keep Gaza separate from the West Bank, with full U.S. support. Never mind that this is in defiance to the Oslo Accords, which maintained that Gaza and the West Bank must be preserved as a single territory.

In the view of Israel and the U.S., Gaza must be shut off completely from the rest of the word and the West Bank, what little is left of it after the settlements are built, will be separate and completely dependent on Israel.

Gazans are to be kept sieged in, denied access to arable land, denied fishing rights, denied exports and imports, and allowed only enough food and water as to ensure that they aren't obviously dying of starvation, as that wouldn't look good to the outside world and phaggots wouldn't be able to quote average life expectancy in defense of an apartheid regime.

As for playing Chinese whispers, shall we start with Lord Balfour, who said "I do not care under what system we keep the oil, but I am clear that it is all-important that this oil should be available".  A sentiment that is now maintained by all of the major U.S. energy corporations.

Or how about Former Prime Minister Menachem Begin, who warned about the danger of recognizing Palestine in a speech:

"My friend, take care. When you recognize the concept of 'Palestine', you demolish your right to live in Ein Hahoresh [an Israeli Kibbutz]. If this is Palestine and not the Land of Israel, then you are conquerors and not tillers of the land. You are invaders.  If this is Palestine, then it belongs to a people who lived here before you came."

Perhaps you’d prefer the words of Israel’s Former Minister of Defense General Moshe Dayan:

"It is not true that the Arabs hate the Jews for personal, religious, or racial reasons. They consider us – and justly, from their point of view – as Westerners, foreigners, invaders who have seized an Arab country to turn it into a Jewish state."

How about Israeli civil servant Yosef Weitz, who wrote that "there is no other way but to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries – to transfer them all – not one village, not one tribe shall be left."

It’s funny that in Israel they have no problem in recognizing certain facts about the history of Palestine. Only in the U.S. will you find 350 lb. fatass American Jews like yourself who have fallen victim to years of brainwashing and permabulking.

Let’s tell both sides of the story, Ron. I am disgusted at this thread.

Much like an Ironage Getbigger friend of mine, I have been diagnosed with on-the-cusp autism, and I am a bit weird. I hate humanity. My autism basically makes it impossible for me to lie, and I despise liars.

It's sad to me.  I feel I have a lot of good qualities, but especially in Canada, being "racist" or "anti-Semitic" is a major ordeal.  Not only is it socially unacceptable, it is now becoming illegal in Canada. I despise leftists as much as I despise Jewish propagandists. They are two sides of the same coin to me and I will never stop calling them out.

Right now, I just want to be as strong as I possibly can be to prepare for the next time someone tries to take my rights away. At this point, the most important thing to me is to be able to put on Tunza Muscle.

In December 2013, the week I turned 32, my sperm count was 830 million.

I am getting another test next week though. I am hoping that I still have enough total sperm to ruin my sperm a little with another cycle.  I am Hoping to crush a billion, but I will be pleased with a total sperm count over 500 million.

Jews can continue to destabilize the Middle East and destroy Western civilization with an influx of fleeing refugees, but this time I will be ready for them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 09, 2023, 07:43:02 AM
Hamas are using their usual playbook, they know Israeli retaliation will cause heavy civilian casualties which they will use as propaganda across all the TV networks and media.

They have no hope militarily but perhaps hope for some political victory, to turn world opinion against Israel.

Similar to how North Vietnam used the footage of bombed Hanoi to get 'sympathy' internationally even though they were constantly launching terrorist attacks and executing civilians in the South.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 09, 2023, 07:45:38 AM
Hamas are using their usual playbook, they know Israeli retaliation will cause heavy civilian casualties which they will use as propaganda across all the TV networks and media.

They have no hope militarily but perhaps hope for some political victory, to turn world opinion against Israel.

Similar to how North Vietnam used the footage of bombed Hanoi to get 'sympathy' internationally even though they were constantly launching terrorist attacks and executing civilians in the South.

Yes, I’m sure Hamas are praying for mass Palestinian casualties.  Very logical.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: TheGrinch on October 09, 2023, 08:16:50 AM
5000 years from now they'll still be fighting over territory even though they are from the same peoples
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 09, 2023, 08:18:21 AM
War is good for business and people like fighting, its in our nature

Chaos is the default for us, its a miracle there is ever any peace at all
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 09, 2023, 10:11:55 AM
Yes, I’m sure Hamas are praying for mass Palestinian casualties.  Very logical.

Hamas knows the Israeli Retaliation will cause heavy Palestinian casualties
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 09, 2023, 10:19:58 AM
"What Hamas has done is Israel's 9-11."

You mean like actual 9-11, which Israel knew about way in advance of the attacks happening, and informed the U.S. in order to use the attacks as a window of opportunity to destabilize the Middle East and shape a narrative in the aftermath as opposed to preventing it in the first place?

When was Palestine’s 9-11, Ron? Was it in 2008, where 899 Palestinians were killed? Was it 2009, where 1,066 were killed? What about in 2014, where 2,329 of them were butchered? 2021, where 349 were killed? 2022, where 191 were killed? Sorry, Ron, I am struggling to place all of the six and a half thousand deaths since 2008, the vast majority of them civilian, at the hands of an evil regime which is based on the principle of discrimination. A regime that you support. Fucking phaggot.

But it’s all their fault, right? They have to scream that "Israel has a right to exist" while they are being beaten and murdered in the land they were born on.

It disgusts every fiber of my being that you expect the Palestinians to make peace with Israel when they live under exile and military occupation, with no prospect for the recognition of their basic rights. Do you really think Israel will ever accept an independent Palestinian state?  They will never have to so long as there are Jew Americans like you swinging from their balls.

It has long been a gratifying pastime for apologists like you to seek out inflammatory and mostly false statements made by Arabs in order to frame Israel’s struggle as an unwinnable one in the face of intransigent Palestinian hostility.

So Hamas has "always said their goal is the destruction of Israel." And Israel will now "root out" the "terrorist group" from Gaza? LOL!

You mean the democratically elected government who, since their creation in the 1980s, offered settlement proposals which were all rejected. And who frequently observed ceasefires under the provision that Israel would end blockades and stop attacking alleged militants in their communities – something Israel never did.

The Hamas charter, which fatass propagandists like you are so keen on citing, is irrelevant and written by a small group of men in the 1980s. It never formed part of their political program and they clearly stated that they would agree to a long-term truce and accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders.

Israel has only ever sought to maintain the situation they created, which was to keep Gaza separate from the West Bank, with full U.S. support. Never mind that this is in defiance to the Oslo Accords, which maintained that Gaza and the West Bank must be preserved as a single territory.

In the view of Israel and the U.S., Gaza must be shut off completely from the rest of the word and the West Bank, what little is left of it after the settlements are built, will be separate and completely dependent on Israel.

Gazans are to be kept sieged in, denied access to arable land, denied fishing rights, denied exports and imports, and allowed only enough food and water as to ensure that they aren't obviously dying of starvation, as that wouldn't look good to the outside world and phaggots wouldn't be able to quote average life expectancy in defense of an apartheid regime.

As for playing Chinese whispers, shall we start with Lord Balfour, who said "I do not care under what system we keep the oil, but I am clear that it is all-important that this oil should be available".  A sentiment that is now maintained by all of the major U.S. energy corporations.

Or how about Former Prime Minister Menachem Begin, who warned about the danger of recognizing Palestine in a speech:

"My friend, take care. When you recognize the concept of 'Palestine', you demolish your right to live in Ein Hahoresh [an Israeli Kibbutz]. If this is Palestine and not the Land of Israel, then you are conquerors and not tillers of the land. You are invaders.  If this is Palestine, then it belongs to a people who lived here before you came."

Perhaps you’d prefer the words of Israel’s Former Minister of Defense General Moshe Dayan:

"It is not true that the Arabs hate the Jews for personal, religious, or racial reasons. They consider us – and justly, from their point of view – as Westerners, foreigners, invaders who have seized an Arab country to turn it into a Jewish state."

How about Israeli civil servant Yosef Weitz, who wrote that "there is no other way but to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries – to transfer them all – not one village, not one tribe shall be left."

It’s funny that in Israel they have no problem in recognizing certain facts about the history of Palestine. Only in the U.S. will you find 350 lb. fatass American Jews like yourself who have fallen victim to years of brainwashing and permabulking.

Let’s tell both sides of the story, Ron. I am disgusted at this thread.

Much like an Ironage Getbigger friend of mine, I have been diagnosed with on-the-cusp autism, and I am a bit weird. I hate humanity. My autism basically makes it impossible for me to lie, and I despise liars.

It's sad to me.  I feel I have a lot of good qualities, but especially in Canada, being "racist" or "anti-Semitic" is a major ordeal.  Not only is it socially unacceptable, it is now becoming illegal in Canada. I despise leftists as much as I despise Jewish propagandists. They are two sides of the same coin to me and I will never stop calling them out.

Right now, I just want to be as strong as I possibly can be to prepare for the next time someone tries to take my rights away. At this point, the most important thing to me is to be able to put on Tunza Muscle.

In December 2013, the week I turned 32, my sperm count was 830 million.

I am getting another test next week though. I am hoping that I still have enough total sperm to ruin my sperm a little with another cycle.  I am Hoping to crush a billion, but I will be pleased with a total sperm count over 500 million.

Jews can continue to destabilize the Middle East and destroy Western civilization with an influx of fleeing refugees, but this time I will be ready for them.

It's like there is some special MattGPT for the first 75% of the post.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 09, 2023, 10:23:03 AM
I am for the State of Israel and against The People of Way of the Schmoe (Arabs).
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 09, 2023, 10:33:47 AM
Quote
Israel (Hebrew: יִשְׂרָאֵל‎, Modern: Yīsraʾel, Tiberian: Yīsrāʾēl) is a Hebrew-language masculine given name. According to the Book of Genesis, the name was bestowed upon Jacob after the incident in which he wrestled with the angel (Genesis 32:28 and 35:10).

Therefore Hamas are angels
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 09, 2023, 12:05:10 PM
Damn....

They have cut off electricity, fuel, and food from coming in.  Only the rats and roaches will have a good meal.
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 09, 2023, 12:18:20 PM
"What Hamas has done is Israel's 9-11."

You mean like actual 9-11, which Israel knew about way in advance of the attacks happening, and informed the U.S. in order to use the attacks as a window of opportunity to destabilize the Middle East and shape a narrative in the aftermath as opposed to preventing it in the first place?

When was Palestine’s 9-11, Ron? Was it in 2008, where 899 Palestinians were killed? Was it 2009, where 1,066 were killed? What about in 2014, where 2,329 of them were butchered? 2021, where 349 were killed? 2022, where 191 were killed? Sorry, Ron, I am struggling to place all of the six and a half thousand deaths since 2008, the vast majority of them civilian, at the hands of an evil regime which is based on the principle of discrimination. A regime that you support. Fucking phaggot.

But it’s all their fault, right? They have to scream that "Israel has a right to exist" while they are being beaten and murdered in the land they were born on.

It disgusts every fiber of my being that you expect the Palestinians to make peace with Israel when they live under exile and military occupation, with no prospect for the recognition of their basic rights. Do you really think Israel will ever accept an independent Palestinian state?  They will never have to so long as there are Jew Americans like you swinging from their balls.

It has long been a gratifying pastime for apologists like you to seek out inflammatory and mostly false statements made by Arabs in order to frame Israel’s struggle as an unwinnable one in the face of intransigent Palestinian hostility.

So Hamas has "always said their goal is the destruction of Israel." And Israel will now "root out" the "terrorist group" from Gaza? LOL!

You mean the democratically elected government who, since their creation in the 1980s, offered settlement proposals which were all rejected. And who frequently observed ceasefires under the provision that Israel would end blockades and stop attacking alleged militants in their communities – something Israel never did.

The Hamas charter, which fatass propagandists like you are so keen on citing, is irrelevant and written by a small group of men in the 1980s. It never formed part of their political program and they clearly stated that they would agree to a long-term truce and accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders.

Israel has only ever sought to maintain the situation they created, which was to keep Gaza separate from the West Bank, with full U.S. support. Never mind that this is in defiance to the Oslo Accords, which maintained that Gaza and the West Bank must be preserved as a single territory.

In the view of Israel and the U.S., Gaza must be shut off completely from the rest of the word and the West Bank, what little is left of it after the settlements are built, will be separate and completely dependent on Israel.

Gazans are to be kept sieged in, denied access to arable land, denied fishing rights, denied exports and imports, and allowed only enough food and water as to ensure that they aren't obviously dying of starvation, as that wouldn't look good to the outside world and phaggots wouldn't be able to quote average life expectancy in defense of an apartheid regime.

As for playing Chinese whispers, shall we start with Lord Balfour, who said "I do not care under what system we keep the oil, but I am clear that it is all-important that this oil should be available".  A sentiment that is now maintained by all of the major U.S. energy corporations.

Or how about Former Prime Minister Menachem Begin, who warned about the danger of recognizing Palestine in a speech:

"My friend, take care. When you recognize the concept of 'Palestine', you demolish your right to live in Ein Hahoresh [an Israeli Kibbutz]. If this is Palestine and not the Land of Israel, then you are conquerors and not tillers of the land. You are invaders.  If this is Palestine, then it belongs to a people who lived here before you came."

Perhaps you’d prefer the words of Israel’s Former Minister of Defense General Moshe Dayan:

"It is not true that the Arabs hate the Jews for personal, religious, or racial reasons. They consider us – and justly, from their point of view – as Westerners, foreigners, invaders who have seized an Arab country to turn it into a Jewish state."

How about Israeli civil servant Yosef Weitz, who wrote that "there is no other way but to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries – to transfer them all – not one village, not one tribe shall be left."

It’s funny that in Israel they have no problem in recognizing certain facts about the history of Palestine. Only in the U.S. will you find 350 lb. fatass American Jews like yourself who have fallen victim to years of brainwashing and permabulking.

Let’s tell both sides of the story, Ron. I am disgusted at this thread.

Much like an Ironage Getbigger friend of mine, I have been diagnosed with on-the-cusp autism, and I am a bit weird. I hate humanity. My autism basically makes it impossible for me to lie, and I despise liars.

It's sad to me.  I feel I have a lot of good qualities, but especially in Canada, being "racist" or "anti-Semitic" is a major ordeal.  Not only is it socially unacceptable, it is now becoming illegal in Canada. I despise leftists as much as I despise Jewish propagandists. They are two sides of the same coin to me and I will never stop calling them out.

Right now, I just want to be as strong as I possibly can be to prepare for the next time someone tries to take my rights away. At this point, the most important thing to me is to be able to put on Tunza Muscle.

In December 2013, the week I turned 32, my sperm count was 830 million.

I am getting another test next week though. I am hoping that I still have enough total sperm to ruin my sperm a little with another cycle.  I am Hoping to crush a billion, but I will be pleased with a total sperm count over 500 million.

Jews can continue to destabilize the Middle East and destroy Western civilization with an influx of fleeing refugees, but this time I will be ready for them.


(https://media.tenor.com/YxE9mubQz_8AAAAM/kermit-typing.gif)


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 09, 2023, 12:19:31 PM
It's like there is some special MattGPT for the first 75% of the post.


 ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 09, 2023, 12:28:10 PM
The world is waking up to the terrifying reality of Jewish supremacy as referenced in the Jewish publication Haaretz.

An increasing number of Jews are fighting Jewish supremacy whenever it rears its ugly head. Their goal is to stop Jewish hatred against non-Jews......for good.


(https://i.postimg.cc/rwqDPXvN/F7pq-Oa-FWEAEMMs3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBZTHSbP/F7pq-Oa-FW8-AAr-EJW.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjn4f9cb/F7pq-Oa-GWc-AAoj-NQ.jpg)



Video of Christians being spit on by Jewish supremacists:

https://twitter.com/nirhasson/status/1708833385819328700 (https://twitter.com/nirhasson/status/1708833385819328700)

"It's ancient tradition going back to  the Yom Kippur ritual of cursing and spitting the scapegoat.
Jesus is viewed as as the sacrificial scapegoat offering to Azazel/Satan."

(https://i.postimg.cc/wTxX1GVM/F7hvt-TYb-AAArqu0.jpg)



Jewish publication Haaretz:  Prominent settler activist says spitting on Christians 'ancient Jewish custom'

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1709132216490741932 (https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1709132216490741932)

VIDEO:  Zionist children attack Christian tourists.
They learn from childhood to hate non-Jews.


https://twitter.com/Ibrahim_J5/status/1700929841564963060 (https://twitter.com/Ibrahim_J5/status/1700929841564963060)

Jewish supremacists are not born hating. Their hatred of non-Jews is not innate. they are taught to hate by their parents.


(https://i.postimg.cc/4yx1RL2Y/Untitled-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 09, 2023, 12:39:08 PM
This is a brilliant take…

i=RAj5yOXQwrhzQPRi
this 'suprise attack' is just what the doctor ordered for by bibi ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 09, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
Not a word from Biden’s puppeteers as he puts a “lid” on the day

https://www.instagram.com/p/CyMIdf7ORjl/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 09, 2023, 12:46:47 PM
this 'suprise attack' is just what the doctor ordered for by bibi ::)

🙄
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 09, 2023, 01:44:15 PM
It’s important to remember that anti-semitism and anti-Zionism are two completely separate issues.  From the latest edition of the Hamas Charter:

Quote
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 09, 2023, 01:54:20 PM
Damn....

They have cut off electricity, fuel, and food from coming in.  Only the rats and roaches will have a good meal.

And Israel wonder why they get attacked
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 09, 2023, 01:54:27 PM
Damn....

They have cut off electricity, fuel, and food from coming in.  Only the rats and roaches will have a good meal.

Right or wrong at some point the world will start to draw comparisons to the Warsaw ghetto. They'll have to do more than just cut off electricity and food before long. I think they'll end up driving all the Palestinians out and annexing Gaza altogether. Maybe it takes years and years but that's what I think will happen eventually.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 09, 2023, 02:15:29 PM
US was quick to send warships closer.

It was reported here it was to show solidarity with Israel.

Does Biden not know you can put an Iraeli flag on the POTUS Twitter account and it’s a higher virtue signal rating than actually doing anything?

Energy sanctions and embargoes feel very close now. Target end might be April 2026 and CPI perhaps peaks around 12%.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 09, 2023, 02:17:45 PM
Israel run media can report whatever bullshit they want.  They will inflate all numbers of casualties or Israelis and lower the numbers of innocent Palestinians killed.   The Jews love to always play the victim. They constantly poke you and the moment you poke back they cry foul. Fuck them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 09, 2023, 02:27:36 PM
FFS - Ban Islamic & Jewish religion
They're the cause of endless wars & deaths

Its 2023 & so many still think / believe there's some whizzened old Sky Wizard
& killing each other over who's Invisible Sky Wizard is The real one 😂🤣😂🤣😂

They might as well believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden.
Humans in many area's have evolved/ progressed very far have they. 🤦🏻‍♂️  ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 09, 2023, 03:53:20 PM
Damn....

They have cut off electricity, fuel, and food from coming in.  Only the rats, Pamith and roaches will have a good meal.

Fixed ^^
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 09, 2023, 04:04:37 PM
I am for the State of Israel and against The People of Way of the Schmoe (Arabs).
Why?

(https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Ethnic-cleansing.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 09, 2023, 04:08:41 PM
Israel run media can report whatever bullshit they want.  They will inflate all numbers of casualties or Israelis and lower the numbers of innocent Palestinians killed.   The Jews love to always play the victim. They constantly poke you and the moment you poke back they cry foul. Fuck them.
Look at the hate these young Jews have for a Palestinian woman who lost her home. They are fucking cockroaches. If I had a nuke button I would have pressed it years ago to vaporize their bigot asses. Who told them their shit doesn't stink?! All their women get nose jobs because they can't compete with true blond or brunette beauties who don't need all those fake enhancements.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.huffingtonpost.com%2F2014-08-09-JewishsettlerstauntaPalestinianwomanwhohasjustbeenevictedfromherhome.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=63f1e7755184f8fe20129ca0e7f171275053521b99224395815376d165dbd8e3&ipo=images)
Jewish settlers taunt a Palestinian woman has just been evicted from her home

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gaza-from-the-perspective_b_5663922
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 09, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
US was quick to send warships closer.

It was reported here it was to show solidarity with Israel.

Does Biden not know you can put an Iraeli flag on the POTUS Twitter account and it’s a higher virtue signal rating than actually doing anything?

Energy sanctions and embargoes feel very close now. Target end might be April 2026 and CPI perhaps peaks around 12%.
No, he doesn't. He has bigger problems, like who's going to wipe his ass after he crapped in his depends. Don't be under the illusion that biden's making any major decisions. Or his VP.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 09, 2023, 04:17:39 PM
FFS - Ban Islamic & Jewish religion
They're the cause of endless wars & deaths

Its 2023 & so many still think / believe there's some whizzened old Sky Wizard
& killing each other over who's Invisible Sky Wizard is The real one 😂🤣😂🤣😂

They might as well believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden.
Humans in many area's have evolved/ progressed very far have they. 🤦🏻‍♂️  ::)
Who was the "Wizard" that created the solar system and all it's planets and sun out of a solar nebula? Can you explain how that all just happened magically and organically on it's own?

1. You have a Nebula

(https://aerospaceweb.org/question/astronomy/solar-system/eagle-nebula.jpg)

2. A supernova event creates a shockwave that disturbs the nebula. It starts to churn and spin.

(https://useruploads.socratic.org/LoX5wjy0RLi1Knv7FVKa_maxresdefault.jpg)

3. Eventually you get this:

(https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/new-york-city-usa.jpg?ssl=1)

Please explain all the steps that made this possible. First start with why there are 4 fundamental forces in the Universe. Why do those forces exist?

"The Sun and the planets formed together, 4.6 billion years ago, from a cloud of gas and dust called the solar nebula. A shock wave from a nearby supernova explosion probably initiated the collapse of the solar nebula. The Sun formed in the center, and the planets formed in a thin disk orbiting around it."

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/the-universe/planets/formation-of-our-solar-system#:~:text=The%20Sun%20and%20the%20planets,thin%20disk%20orbiting%20around%20it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: irishdave on October 09, 2023, 04:39:35 PM
No, he doesn't. He has bigger problems, like who's going to wipe his ass after he crapped in his depends. Don't be under the illusion that biden's making any major decisions. Or his VP.

As an outsider, I can not, for the life of me, considering all things holy, and all shenanigans aside, understand how anybody in their right mind could vote for this decrepit pedo, let alone think that he makes ANY decisions whatsoever blows my small Irish mind. He’s a car salesman who has my father even fooled who I thought was no fool. His fake plastic paddy malarkey really made me hate him.

Evil
Clown
World


Kill em all
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 09, 2023, 04:41:15 PM
As an outsider, I can not, for the life of me, considering all things holy, and all shenanigans aside, how anybody in their right mind could vote for this decrepit pedo, let alone think he makes ANY decisions whatsoever blows my small Irish mind. He’s a car salesman who has my father even fooled who I thought was no fool.

Evil
Clown
World


Kill em all
People are morons or don't like to think the world is upside down. It's too upsetting for some to consider that the MSM is full of shit.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: irishdave on October 09, 2023, 04:42:27 PM
People are morons or don't like to think the world is upside down. It's too upsetting for some to consider that the MSM is full of shit.

MSM has them brainwashed and instead of looking for the truth they go on TikTok
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: BigRo on October 09, 2023, 04:45:09 PM
Who was the "Wizard" that created the solar system and all it's planets and sun out of a solar nebula? Can you explain how that all just happened magically and organically on it's own?

1. You have a Nebula

(https://aerospaceweb.org/question/astronomy/solar-system/eagle-nebula.jpg)

2. A supernova event creates a shockwave that disturbs the nebula. It starts to churn and spin.

(https://useruploads.socratic.org/LoX5wjy0RLi1Knv7FVKa_maxresdefault.jpg)

3. Eventually you get this:

(https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/new-york-city-usa.jpg?ssl=1)

Please explain all the steps that made this possible. First start with why there are 4 fundamental forces in the Universe. Why do those forces exist?

"The Sun and the planets formed together, 4.6 billion years ago, from a cloud of gas and dust called the solar nebula. A shock wave from a nearby supernova explosion probably initiated the collapse of the solar nebula. The Sun formed in the center, and the planets formed in a thin disk orbiting around it."

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/the-universe/planets/formation-of-our-solar-system#:~:text=The%20Sun%20and%20the%20planets,thin%20disk%20orbiting%20around%20it.

No one can give a satisfactory how or why but we can understand via our own experience that everything, the whole universe, is contained within ones own conscious and deathless Being, that there is nothing apart from oneself, that ones transcendental nature is infinite and eternal and all this can be understood through deep and profound meditation, not semantics or belief.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 09, 2023, 04:46:04 PM
Who was the "Wizard" that created the solar system and all it's planets and sun out of a solar nebula? Can you explain how that all just happened magically and organically on it's own?

1. You have a Nebula

(https://aerospaceweb.org/question/astronomy/solar-system/eagle-nebula.jpg)

2. A supernova event creates a shockwave that disturbs the nebula. It starts to churn and spin.

(https://useruploads.socratic.org/LoX5wjy0RLi1Knv7FVKa_maxresdefault.jpg)

3. Eventually you get this:

(https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/new-york-city-usa.jpg?ssl=1)

Please explain all the steps that made this possible. First start with why there are 4 fundamental forces in the Universe. Why do those forces exist?

"The Sun and the planets formed together, 4.6 billion years ago, from a cloud of gas and dust called the solar nebula. A shock wave from a nearby supernova explosion probably initiated the collapse of the solar nebula. The Sun formed in the center, and the planets formed in a thin disk orbiting around it."

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/the-universe/planets/formation-of-our-solar-system#:~:text=The%20Sun%20and%20the%20planets,thin%20disk%20orbiting%20around%20it.
Marduk of course
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: irishdave on October 09, 2023, 04:46:32 PM
They put a lid on The POTUS at 12 noon today during these crisis times? What’s the story, Joe? Got some hair on your legs that needs brushing? Got another facelift appointment?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Taffin on October 09, 2023, 04:46:59 PM
It's like there is some special MattGPT for the first 75% of the post.

That's genius! ;D




As is the random insertion of sperm values towards the end of the Prince's post ;D ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 09, 2023, 05:30:29 PM
Marduk will come for all y'alls <-- Black Speech?

CUH CUH CUH
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 09, 2023, 05:42:12 PM
No one can give a satisfactory how or why but we can understand via our own experience that everything, the whole universe, is contained within ones own conscious and deathless Being, that there is nothing apart from oneself, that ones transcendental nature is infinite and eternal and all this can be understood through deep and profound meditation, not semantics or belief.
Why do you exist and why are you conscious? Why does a Hydrogen atom exist? Or Helium? Why does Hydrogen fuse into Helium in a yellow sequence star like our Sun? You don't know. Nobody knows. We can observe and document the laws of the Universe. But nobody can explain why these laws even exist. Why does gravity exist? Can a universe exist without gravity? We would not be here if the 4 fundamental forces of the Universe did not exist.

That's my point. We just don't know. Therefore nobody can claim a Creator does not exist. It is more likely that a Creator exists than not. Everything humans have achieved has been through creation. Cars, computers, planes, buildings, etc. All created. You can't have a design without a designer. The evidence of the Creation is all around you. If you think the Universe created itself then the Universe is your Creator. No matter which way you look at it there is a Creator. Forget about the Bible or the Quran or all the religions. They all just accept that there is a supernatural Being beyond our comprehension.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: BigRo on October 09, 2023, 08:47:16 PM
Why do you exist and why are you conscious? Why does a Hydrogen atom exist? Or Helium? Why does Hydrogen fuse into Helium in a yellow sequence star like our Sun? You don't know. Nobody knows. We can observe and document the laws of the Universe. But nobody can explain why these laws even exist. Why does gravity exist? Can a universe exist without gravity? We would not be here if the 4 fundamental forces of the Universe did not exist.

That's my point. We just don't know. Therefore nobody can claim a Creator does not exist. It is more likely that a Creator exists than not. Everything humans have achieved has been through creation. Cars, computers, planes, buildings, etc. All created. You can't have a design without a designer. The evidence of the Creation is all around you. If you think the Universe created itself then the Universe is your Creator. No matter which way you look at it there is a Creator. Forget about the Bible or the Quran or all the religions. They all just accept that there is a supernatural Being beyond our comprehension.

Your going about it all the wrong way. I am not saying there is no creative source. There is nothing outside and apart from that source, this is what I am saying. Our very I feeling comes from that source. The Universe is a fine creation but so is this sense of self which borrows its little reality from a deeper reality and  is the greatest wonder and yet we put it down as if it were nothing, something to insult, when these vehicles are the Ground of Beings hands and feet. I am, you are not any created thing but the uncreated Light expressing itself through multitudinous forms.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 10, 2023, 12:50:18 AM
Why do you exist and why are you conscious? Why does a Hydrogen atom exist? Or Helium? Why does Hydrogen fuse into Helium in a yellow sequence star like our Sun? You don't know. Nobody knows. We can observe and document the laws of the Universe. But nobody can explain why these laws even exist. Why does gravity exist? Can a universe exist without gravity? We would not be here if the 4 fundamental forces of the Universe did not exist.

That's my point. We just don't know. Therefore nobody can claim a Creator does not exist. It is more likely that a Creator exists than not. Everything humans have achieved has been through creation. Cars, computers, planes, buildings, etc. All created. You can't have a design without a designer. The evidence of the Creation is all around you. If you think the Universe created itself then the Universe is your Creator. No matter which way you look at it there is a Creator. Forget about the Bible or the Quran or all the religions. They all just accept that there is a supernatural Being beyond our comprehension.

There is No Weirdy Beardy Sky Wizard.

As to how & why we are here & the stars / planets / universe etc
Nobody knows - pure speculation on everyone's part.
Make your own choice & you're likely as right & wrong as the next person & their idea.

I don't sweat it as its very likely beyond anyone's comprehension & we'll never know.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 10, 2023, 12:53:57 AM
There is No Weirdy Beardy Sky Wizard.

As to how & why we are here & the stars / planets / universe etc
Nobody knows - pure speculation on everyone's part.
Make your own choice & you're likely as right & wrong as the next person & their idea.

I don't sweat it as its very likely beyond anyone's comprehension & we'll never know.
Or maybe we will know when we die.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 10, 2023, 01:09:38 AM
Your going about it all the wrong way. I am not saying there is no creative source. There is nothing outside and apart from that source, this is what I am saying. Our very I feeling comes from that source. The Universe is a fine creation but so is this sense of self which borrows its little reality from a deeper reality and  is the greatest wonder and yet we put it down as if it were nothing, something to insult, when these vehicles are the Ground of Beings hands and feet. I am, you are not any created thing but the uncreated Light expressing itself through multitudinous forms.

I came up with this spaced out on weed after a night out popping Ecstacy

"the world around you is a creation of your subconcious for itself to exist in"
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 10, 2023, 01:15:41 AM
Saw this post on RT:

HAMAS is a USA/UK/Israeli-backed terrorist organization that grew out of the USA-backed Muslim Brotherhood. This is another USA “Strategy of Tension” using HAMAS to provoke Israel to justify Israel’s increased brutalization of Gaza & the Palestinian People that Unifies the West in rallying around Israel & condemning the Palestinians to justify their NEOCON supported Genocide of the Palestinian people. And the Palestinian people are duped into thinking HAMAS is on their side while HAMAS actually supports the Israeli Genocide of the Palestinians in a strategic play all backed by the USA machinations.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 10, 2023, 01:20:35 AM
There is No Weirdy Beardy Sky Wizard.

As to how & why we are here & the stars / planets / universe etc
Nobody knows - pure speculation on everyone's part.
Make your own choice & you're likely as right & wrong as the next person & their idea.

I don't sweat it as its very likely beyond anyone's comprehension & we'll never know.
Then how do you know there isn't a "Weirdy Beardy Sky Wizard" controlling it all - lol?! j/k Those are your words.

I have no idea in what kind of form this Creator is. Maybe it's the operator of a computer simulation? I very much doubt it is in human form. It would probably not need a physical body.

With my limited knowledge, it's obvious to me that the Universe is a design. And a design requires a designer.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 10, 2023, 01:47:33 AM
Then how do you know there isn't a "Weirdy Beardy Sky Wizard" controlling it all - lol?! j/k Those are your words.

I have no idea in what kind of form this Creator is. Maybe it's the operator of a computer simulation? I very much doubt it is in human form. It would probably not need a physical body.

With my limited knowledge, it's obvious to me that the Universe is a design. And a design requires a designer.

Form of the Creator is a Dark Brown Snaggle-toothed Mr Potato Head-shaped Giant Head shouting Wisdom
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 10, 2023, 01:55:42 AM
Saw this post on RT:

HAMAS is a USA/UK/Israeli-backed terrorist organization that grew out of the USA-backed Muslim Brotherhood. This is another USA “Strategy of Tension” using HAMAS to provoke Israel to justify Israel’s increased brutalization of Gaza & the Palestinian People that Unifies the West in rallying around Israel & condemning the Palestinians to justify their NEOCON supported Genocide of the Palestinian people. And the Palestinian people are duped into thinking HAMAS is on their side while HAMAS actually supports the Israeli Genocide of the Palestinians in a strategic play all backed by the USA machinations.

Sounds believable , makes more sense than the narrative
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 10, 2023, 03:27:17 AM
US begins delivering munitions to Israel as the American death toll rises to 11 in Hamas attacks

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-state-department-39b9e7f15334ff756f022704f9516867

The U.S. has already begun delivering critically needed munitions and military equipment to Israel, the White House said Monday, as the Pentagon reviews its inventories to see what else can be sent quickly to boost its ally in the three-day-old war with Hamas.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 10, 2023, 04:30:45 AM
Zelenskyy gotta be mad as hell   ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 10, 2023, 04:54:53 AM
Zelenskyy gotta be mad as hell   ;D

Expect a "Russin attack" on a hospital or school very shortly
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 10, 2023, 05:42:47 AM
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 10, 2023, 05:46:16 AM
Who was the "Wizard" that created the solar system and all it's planets and sun out of a solar nebula? Can you explain how that all just happened magically and organically on it's own?

1. You have a Nebula

(https://aerospaceweb.org/question/astronomy/solar-system/eagle-nebula.jpg)

2. A supernova event creates a shockwave that disturbs the nebula. It starts to churn and spin.

(https://useruploads.socratic.org/LoX5wjy0RLi1Knv7FVKa_maxresdefault.jpg)

3. Eventually you get this:

(https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/new-york-city-usa.jpg?ssl=1)

Please explain all the steps that made this possible. First start with why there are 4 fundamental forces in the Universe. Why do those forces exist?

"The Sun and the planets formed together, 4.6 billion years ago, from a cloud of gas and dust called the solar nebula. A shock wave from a nearby supernova explosion probably initiated the collapse of the solar nebula. The Sun formed in the center, and the planets formed in a thin disk orbiting around it."

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/the-universe/planets/formation-of-our-solar-system#:~:text=The%20Sun%20and%20the%20planets,thin%20disk%20orbiting%20around%20it.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 10, 2023, 05:51:33 AM
FFS - Ban Islamic & Jewish religion
They're the cause of endless wars & deaths

Its 2023 & so many still think / believe there's some whizzened old Sky Wizard
& killing each other over who's Invisible Sky Wizard is The real one 😂🤣😂🤣😂

They might as well believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden.
Humans in many area's have evolved/ progressed very far have they. 🤦🏻‍♂️  ::)

Endless wars and deaths have existed since humans have existed.  It's not just religion, but politics and yes, even sports...all kinds of rivalries.

Atheist commies such as Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot who banned religion ended up causing far more suffering and millions more deaths on their own people than religion ever has.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: BigRo on October 10, 2023, 06:06:01 AM
Expect a "Russin attack" on a hospital or school very shortly

Yes, they do actually bomb the hell out of civilian targets. Maybe give RT a break, I did.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: gib on October 10, 2023, 06:06:13 AM
Those muslims are just absolutely ruthless. Combine young men, with a lack of education, with little pleasure in their lives and a disenfranchised sense of belonging, along religion and charismatic leaders, and you have a very volatile combination.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 10, 2023, 06:09:04 AM
Every country in the world that has been invloved in a war has killed innocent women and children on all sides

Lets not demonise others pretending you have some kind of golden halo around your head when they do it
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 10, 2023, 06:27:01 AM
Then how do you know there isn't a "Weirdy Beardy Sky Wizard" controlling it all - lol?! j/k Those are your words.

I have no idea in what kind of form this Creator is. Maybe it's the operator of a computer simulation? I very much doubt it is in human form. It would probably not need a physical body.

With my limited knowledge, it's obvious to me that the Universe is a design. And a design requires a designer.

Then you stick to your Limited Knowledge & what's obvious to you - lol!?  J/K those are your words.

HTH

 ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Marty Champions on October 10, 2023, 07:57:22 AM
All those people should get out of that country who dont want bombs hitting them.. You cant stop these idiots shooting rockets.   very easy solution

Its like notoriously bad cities attract the fools but the wise know to avoid them
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: CT_Muscle on October 10, 2023, 08:43:06 AM
Gave them back their money we've held and collected interest in for over 40 years...and they would have attacked anyway

That was the 6 billion Obama gave Iran just before he left office...... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: CalvinH on October 10, 2023, 09:51:24 AM
"What Hamas has done is Israel's 9-11."

You mean like actual 9-11, which Israel knew about way in advance of the attacks happening, and informed the U.S. in order to use the attacks as a window of opportunity to destabilize the Middle East and shape a narrative in the aftermath as opposed to preventing it in the first place?

When was Palestine’s 9-11, Ron? Was it in 2008, where 899 Palestinians were killed? Was it 2009, where 1,066 were killed? What about in 2014, where 2,329 of them were butchered? 2021, where 349 were killed? 2022, where 191 were killed? Sorry, Ron, I am struggling to place all of the six and a half thousand deaths since 2008, the vast majority of them civilian, at the hands of an evil regime which is based on the principle of discrimination. A regime that you support. Fucking phaggot.

But it’s all their fault, right? They have to scream that "Israel has a right to exist" while they are being beaten and murdered in the land they were born on.

It disgusts every fiber of my being that you expect the Palestinians to make peace with Israel when they live under exile and military occupation, with no prospect for the recognition of their basic rights. Do you really think Israel will ever accept an independent Palestinian state?  They will never have to so long as there are Jew Americans like you swinging from their balls.

It has long been a gratifying pastime for apologists like you to seek out inflammatory and mostly false statements made by Arabs in order to frame Israel’s struggle as an unwinnable one in the face of intransigent Palestinian hostility.

So Hamas has "always said their goal is the destruction of Israel." And Israel will now "root out" the "terrorist group" from Gaza? LOL!

You mean the democratically elected government who, since their creation in the 1980s, offered settlement proposals which were all rejected. And who frequently observed ceasefires under the provision that Israel would end blockades and stop attacking alleged militants in their communities – something Israel never did.

The Hamas charter, which fatass propagandists like you are so keen on citing, is irrelevant and written by a small group of men in the 1980s. It never formed part of their political program and they clearly stated that they would agree to a long-term truce and accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders.

Israel has only ever sought to maintain the situation they created, which was to keep Gaza separate from the West Bank, with full U.S. support. Never mind that this is in defiance to the Oslo Accords, which maintained that Gaza and the West Bank must be preserved as a single territory.

In the view of Israel and the U.S., Gaza must be shut off completely from the rest of the word and the West Bank, what little is left of it after the settlements are built, will be separate and completely dependent on Israel.

Gazans are to be kept sieged in, denied access to arable land, denied fishing rights, denied exports and imports, and allowed only enough food and water as to ensure that they aren't obviously dying of starvation, as that wouldn't look good to the outside world and phaggots wouldn't be able to quote average life expectancy in defense of an apartheid regime.

As for playing Chinese whispers, shall we start with Lord Balfour, who said "I do not care under what system we keep the oil, but I am clear that it is all-important that this oil should be available".  A sentiment that is now maintained by all of the major U.S. energy corporations.

Or how about Former Prime Minister Menachem Begin, who warned about the danger of recognizing Palestine in a speech:

"My friend, take care. When you recognize the concept of 'Palestine', you demolish your right to live in Ein Hahoresh [an Israeli Kibbutz]. If this is Palestine and not the Land of Israel, then you are conquerors and not tillers of the land. You are invaders.  If this is Palestine, then it belongs to a people who lived here before you came."

Perhaps you’d prefer the words of Israel’s Former Minister of Defense General Moshe Dayan:

"It is not true that the Arabs hate the Jews for personal, religious, or racial reasons. They consider us – and justly, from their point of view – as Westerners, foreigners, invaders who have seized an Arab country to turn it into a Jewish state."

How about Israeli civil servant Yosef Weitz, who wrote that "there is no other way but to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries – to transfer them all – not one village, not one tribe shall be left."

It’s funny that in Israel they have no problem in recognizing certain facts about the history of Palestine. Only in the U.S. will you find 350 lb. fatass American Jews like yourself who have fallen victim to years of brainwashing and permabulking.

Let’s tell both sides of the story, Ron. I am disgusted at this thread.

Much like an Ironage Getbigger friend of mine, I have been diagnosed with on-the-cusp autism, and I am a bit weird. I hate humanity. My autism basically makes it impossible for me to lie, and I despise liars.

It's sad to me.  I feel I have a lot of good qualities, but especially in Canada, being "racist" or "anti-Semitic" is a major ordeal.  Not only is it socially unacceptable, it is now becoming illegal in Canada. I despise leftists as much as I despise Jewish propagandists. They are two sides of the same coin to me and I will never stop calling them out.

Right now, I just want to be as strong as I possibly can be to prepare for the next time someone tries to take my rights away. At this point, the most important thing to me is to be able to put on Tunza Muscle.

In December 2013, the week I turned 32, my sperm count was 830 million.

I am getting another test next week though. I am hoping that I still have enough total sperm to ruin my sperm a little with another cycle.  I am Hoping to crush a billion, but I will be pleased with a total sperm count over 500 million.

Jews can continue to destabilize the Middle East and destroy Western civilization with an influx of fleeing refugees, but this time I will be ready for them.


Hi Matt!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: irishdave on October 10, 2023, 10:02:35 AM
Those muslims are just absolutely ruthless. Combine young men, with a lack of education, with little pleasure in their lives and a disenfranchised sense of belonging, along religion and charismatic leaders, and you have a very volatile combination.

Low iq retards easily fooled by religion, useful idiots and retards

Not dissimilar to rob, primequeer, etc
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: JackTheRipper on October 10, 2023, 10:56:03 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 10, 2023, 11:26:44 AM
What people don’t understand is this has nothing to do  with Hamas or Palestinians. The fucking Iranians have been funding and instigating this shit for decades.  They found patsies in Lebanon and gave them money and used them to attack Israel in the 80s.  Same shit decade after decade.  Yet the USA attacks the people that have no resources to do this shit.  For some reason they are scared to shit of going after the source in Iran. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 10, 2023, 11:32:41 AM
What people don’t understand is this has nothing to do  with Hamas or Palestinians. The fucking Iranians have been funding and instigating this shit for decades.  They found patsies in Lebanon and gave them money and used them to attack Israel in the 80s.  Same shit decade after decade.  Yet the USA attacks the people that have no resources to do this shit.  For some reason they are scared to shit of going after the source in Iran.

Iran is more of a threat no?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: JackTheRipper on October 10, 2023, 11:42:29 AM
Iran is more of a threat no?
Iran is the mother of all evil.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 10, 2023, 11:44:36 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 10, 2023, 12:22:49 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=688376.0;attach=1467901;image)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 10, 2023, 12:33:55 PM
Remember the "babies being taken out of incubators and killed" hoax as one of the pretexts to go to war against Iraqis in Kuwait as well as the "weapons of mass destruction" hoax to have 4000+ American deaths, 30,000+ American injuries, $757.8 billions of tax payer money spend to destabilize the middle east, between 280,771 - 315,190 Iraqi civilian deaths.....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/)
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: G_Thang on October 10, 2023, 01:21:24 PM
Are we on the brink of WW3?

The Precipice of War?

you need the war machine to pull economics out of depressions.

No one is trying to die for Israel. They will bleed the USA dry for money and military equipment as usual because they are even the chosen ones people over dying babies around the world.

Don't worry, have to foot the bill.

I


Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 10, 2023, 02:03:17 PM
That was the 6 billion Obama gave Iran just before he left office...... ::) ::) ::)

lol... we are holding hundreds of billions of dollars from Iran...all of it collecting interest   We gave them a few rupees.   We also seized a bunch of other shit too like an entire fucking skyscraper in NY worth a billion.   
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Horny Prince on October 10, 2023, 02:07:37 PM
Remember the "babies being taken out of incubators and killed" hoax as one of the pretexts to go to war against Iraqis in Kuwait as well as the "weapons of mass destruction" hoax to have 4000+ American deaths, 30,000+ American injuries, $757.8 billions of tax payer money spend to destabilize the middle east, between 280,771 - 315,190 Iraqi civilian deaths.....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/)

LOL, thank you for saying this, Megalodon! Hamas beheading babies and setting people on fire HAHAHAHAHAHA! Now you really get to see who controls the media.

Thank you, Megalodon. I'm glad you shared this. It amazes me that Getbiggers just swallow whatever Jew bullshit they are fed. Where’s the video evidence? Oh wait, they sent it to Pellius, 240 or Bust and SquadFatter.

LOL! ;D

Hamas also dashed across the Kibbutz in exactly 11.11s, overtook Usain Bolt, then beheaded him and set fire to the body HAHAHAHA!!!

That's why I utterly can't stand 350 lb. Jew permabulker pigs like Ron. He uses this site as his own Zionist propaganda factory and expects us all to just stand by and watch.

If it’s in the media, it must be true. It is remarkable how stupid you all are.

If you are wondering why I have no interest speaking to anyone ever again, this is why. Think about this - all most people had to do is be told there was a pandemic, and they believed it. Even when their own fucking eyes were telling them the opposite.

It's just despicable.

I am just surrounded by utter tools.

Israel does not have a problem with Muslims. It has a problem with all Palestinians – the indigenous population of the land who are preventing them from enacting their exclusive right to self-determination. Israel wants to build ILLEGAL Jew-only settlements, and the Palestinian population are in their way.

But not for much longer. Of course, RETARD Getbiggers who don’t understand that they’ve been brainwashed will celebrate this.

Why I do keep emphasizing that mainstream Western media is dominated by Jews?

BECAUSE IF THE SITUATION WERE REVERSED, THIS WOULD BE GETTING COVERAGE ON THE JEW MEDIA 24/7/365 AND ALL YOU WOULD EVER HEAR ABOUT IS THE 6 MILLION BEING MURDERED EVERY DAY BY THE PALESTINIAN OCCUPIERS.

And this I keep saying this: This is why when the day comes, Jews are not treated fairly.

Sorry, but...that's what you get for years of garbage like this. I sure as hell will not feel bad for them when the tables turn.

But Israel now announce that “the gloves are off” and their response “won’t be clean”. In other words, they are going to carry out war crimes and murder an entire population who have already been beaten to their knees, and none of us will feel like questioning anything because we’ve read about Hamas murdering babies in the newspapers, lol.

Just like Saddam’s henchmen in Iraq. How convenient.

But thank god they’ve turned off the water supply, electricity, and stopped food coming in. It’s just great that they are dealing with the last remaining hardcore Islamists like these people:





And once they’ve destroyed Gaza, it will be back to “oh, it’s actually IRAN who’s the real enemy “ LOL!!! DUMB FUCKS!!

Yeah, Iran is really the greatest threat to world peace because the U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia tell us so!

We can’t let Iran build a bomb, because we want to be able to bomb them off the face off the Earth and force regime change back to one like we used to have under the Shah, lol. Stupid phaggots. Yeah, it must be true because the Jewish media told us! FUCK OFF!!!

Oh no, Israel faces an “existential threat” LOL. Iran said they will destroy us! Except that was a load of shit and they didn’t say that.

But Iran is “the world’s biggest supporter of terrorism” HAHAHA!! Why? Because they fund Hamas and Hezbollah, who both emerged in resistance to overwhelming Israeli violence, funded by the U.S.

The thing is, it's getting to the point where soon they will just arrest us just for holding dissident political views like mine.

If I'm going to go to jail for 20 years anyway, I may as well make it for a murder. And that’s why I have fired up the oven for Ron.

The final straw for me was Ron threatening to stick his 9-inch cock down a Palestinian's throat.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 10, 2023, 02:12:22 PM
What people don’t understand is this has nothing to do  with Hamas or Palestinians. The fucking Iranians have been funding and instigating this shit for decades.  They found patsies in Lebanon and gave them money and used them to attack Israel in the 80s.  Same shit decade after decade.  Yet the USA attacks the people that have no resources to do this shit.  For some reason they are scared to shit of going after the source in Iran.

Makes sense. Israel and Saudi Arabia, both enemies of Iran, were on the verge of a deal.

America, Israel and Saudi are “at the cusp of a deal”

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/09/24/america-israel-and-saudi-are-at-the-cusp-of-a-deal
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 10, 2023, 02:44:38 PM
With Israel and Saudi Arabia going to sign a peace agreement, it would of been almost the end for Hamas.  Hamas is a terrorist group that controls via fear in Gaza, maybe 10-20,000 members, but control 2 million Palestinians in Gaza.  The attacks caught Israel's military and government by completely surprise, no doubt, and it cost over 700 lives of women, children and retirees. The worst of the insane killings of over 250 people having fun at a music festival.  The question of what happened to intelligence and the failures are being asked by everyone in the state and more.

However, what Hamas has done is Israel's 9-11.  They have put the left and right wing of government together, and because of the veracity of the attack, there is only one option now for Israel.  To root out Hamas out of Gaza.  They can no longer be there ruling and terrorizing the 2 million Palestinians.  With a declaration of war, Hamas hiding in bunkers underground at the hospital, at the schools, at the mosques - these targets which have never been hit are now going to be, with a vengeance, with ground troops entering, and casualties will rise. 

Hamas has always said their goal is the destruction of Israel.  Always.  It is in their declaration and they have not wavered.  Liberals thought they could change.  No way. 

So many Israeli's and Palestinians want peace, and just to live their lives.  The radicals won't have that, and Hamas this weekend proved that.  So after Israel pulled out of Gaza without agreements, this is the result. 

Everything in this situation is bad, and it is only going to get worse.  Just like the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon to stop the PLO and remove them from that country, almost everything that is being said will result in Hamas being forced out of Gaza.


With all due respect, Hamas shouldn't have been able to pull off what I call the shitiest attack ever....shooting what I call a bunch bottle rockets and coming in on para-gliders, motorcycles, and trucks as if it was Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.   A complete and utter failure of Israeli Intellegence.   How the fuck this happenned is no longer important.

This whole situation has gone on since 1948 and its time to end.   A lot of people want peace but Israel now has its answer.   They are going to keep doing shit like this, they are going to wave a white flag, regroup and do it again.   


If Israel is going to take the Gaza Strip then I say they should take the whole field of Palestine instead of pussy footing around.  No more phone calls letting them know they are going to drop bombs on them....just drop it on them and get the message.  And no more of this "precision bombing".  Drop as much ordinance on everything that breathe, don't worry about who it hits.  If they raise a white flag, drop a bomb on the guy waving it.    Israel has got plenty of weapons but they just want to not look like a bunch of bullies.   I say be the bully and start putting those people in coffins.


Hamas wants to exterminate Jews and won't stop what they are doing.  We'll see if Netenyahu really means getting revenge.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 10, 2023, 02:50:00 PM
LOL, thank you for saying this, Megalodon! Hamas beheading babies and setting people on fire HAHAHAHAHAHA! Now you really get to see who controls the media.

Thank you, Megalodon. I'm glad you shared this. It amazes me that Getbiggers just swallow whatever Jew bullshit they are fed. Where’s the video evidence? Oh wait, they sent it to Pellius, 240 or Bust and SquadFatter.

LOL! ;D

Hamas also dashed across the Kibbutz in exactly 11.11s, overtook Usain Bolt, then beheaded him and set fire to the body HAHAHAHA!!!

That's why I utterly can't stand 350 lb. Jew permabulker pigs like Ron. He uses this site as his own Zionist propaganda factory and expects us all to just stand by and watch.

If it’s in the media, it must be true. It is remarkable how stupid you all are.

If you are wondering why I have no interest speaking to anyone ever again, this is why. Think about this - all most people had to do is be told there was a pandemic, and they believed it. Even when their own fucking eyes were telling them the opposite.

It's just despicable.

I am just surrounded by utter tools.

Israel does not have a problem with Muslims. It has a problem with all Palestinians – the indigenous population of the land who are preventing them from enacting their exclusive right to self-determination. Israel wants to build ILLEGAL Jew-only settlements, and the Palestinian population are in their way.

But not for much longer. Of course, RETARD Getbiggers who don’t understand that they’ve been brainwashed will celebrate this.

Why I do keep emphasizing that mainstream Western media is dominated by Jews?

BECAUSE IF THE SITUATION WERE REVERSED, THIS WOULD BE GETTING COVERAGE ON THE JEW MEDIA 24/7/365 AND ALL YOU WOULD EVER HEAR ABOUT IS THE 6 MILLION BEING MURDERED EVERY DAY BY THE PALESTINIAN OCCUPIERS.

And this I keep saying this: This is why when the day comes, Jews are not treated fairly.

Sorry, but...that's what you get for years of garbage like this. I sure as hell will not feel bad for them when the tables turn.

But Israel now announce that “the gloves are off” and their response “won’t be clean”. In other words, they are going to carry out war crimes and murder an entire population who have already been beaten to their knees, and none of us will feel like questioning anything because we’ve read about Hamas murdering babies in the newspapers, lol.

Just like Saddam’s henchmen in Iraq. How convenient.

But thank god they’ve turned off the water supply, electricity, and stopped food coming in. It’s just great that they are dealing with the last remaining hardcore Islamists like these people:





And once they’ve destroyed Gaza, it will be back to “oh, it’s actually IRAN who’s the real enemy “ LOL!!! DUMB FUCKS!!

Yeah, Iran is really the greatest threat to world peace because the U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia tell us so!

We can’t let Iran build a bomb, because we want to be able to bomb them off the face off the Earth and force regime change back to one like we used to have under the Shah, lol. Stupid phaggots. Yeah, it must be true because the Jewish media told us! FUCK OFF!!!

Oh no, Israel faces an “existential threat” LOL. Iran said they will destroy us! Except that was a load of shit and they didn’t say that.

But Iran is “the world’s biggest supporter of terrorism” HAHAHA!! Why? Because they fund Hamas and Hezbollah, who both emerged in resistance to overwhelming Israeli violence, funded by the U.S.

The thing is, it's getting to the point where soon they will just arrest us just for holding dissident political views like mine.

If I'm going to go to jail for 20 years anyway, I may as well make it for a murder. And that’s why I have fired up the oven for Ron.

The final straw for me was Ron threatening to stick his 9-inch cock down a Palestinian's throat.

MATT  TLDNR

Why have you now got this account?
Its very clearly you - just use your Matt C account.

Oh Seek help. Fast.   ;D  HTH.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 10, 2023, 02:50:25 PM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: BigRo on October 10, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
Jesus some people have very disturbed minds. I am grateful for the peace of mine.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 10, 2023, 03:09:36 PM
Remember the "babies being taken out of incubators and killed" hoax as one of the pretexts to go to war against Iraqis in Kuwait as well as the "weapons of mass destruction" hoax to have 4000+ American deaths, 30,000+ American injuries, $757.8 billions of tax payer money spend to destabilize the middle east, between 280,771 - 315,190 Iraqi civilian deaths.....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/)

Great post, you know your history
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 10, 2023, 03:40:23 PM
I’m no fan of Joo-ing horseshit, but …

I watched a video of filthy Muzzies slowly driving around in a pickup with the corpse of a once-beautiful girl, nude, and with her limbs broken and resting in unnatural positions, in the bed.

As the vehicle made its way through the throngs of people, random pieces of worthless shit were spitting onto her facedown body.

Beheaded babies everywhere … females raped …

Islam and its followers, every damn one of them, are the scum of this planet.

That video gutted Fortress’s heart.

 :-[
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 10, 2023, 04:03:00 PM
I’m no fan of Joo-ing horseshit, but …

I watched a video of filthy Muzzies slowly driving around in a pickup with the corpse of a once-beautiful girl, nude, and with her limbs broken and resting in unnatural positions, in the bed.

As the vehicle made its way through the throngs of people, random pieces of worthless shit were spitting onto her facedown body.

Beheaded babies everywhere … females raped …

Islam and its followers, every damn one of them, are the scum of this planet.

That video gutted Fortress’s heart.

 :-[


250,000 Israeli troops are about to enter Gaza and go “door to door”
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 10, 2023, 04:04:49 PM
time to ignore Matts "horney Prince" gimmick as well
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 10, 2023, 05:10:49 PM
lol... we are holding hundreds of billions of dollars from Iran...all of it collecting interest   We gave them a few rupees.   We also seized a bunch of other shit too like an entire fucking skyscraper in NY worth a billion.

6 billion is nothing to a country like Iran so this argument that has been dragged the last few days is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 10, 2023, 05:17:14 PM
I’m no fan of Joo-ing horseshit, but …

I watched a video of filthy Muzzies slowly driving around in a pickup with the corpse of a once-beautiful girl, nude, and with her limbs broken and resting in unnatural positions, in the bed.

As the vehicle made its way through the throngs of people, random pieces of worthless shit were spitting onto her facedown body.

Beheaded babies everywhere … females raped …

Islam and its followers, every damn one of them, are the scum of this planet.

That video gutted Fortress’s heart.

 :-[

You can stop calling yourself a Nazi and just identify as a Jew lover.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 10, 2023, 05:20:24 PM
You can stop calling yourself a Nazi and just identify as a Jew lover.

Whatever you say, Cecil.
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 10, 2023, 05:21:35 PM
   A complete and utter failure of Israeli Intellegence.   How the fuck this happenned is no longer important.


Hamas wants to exterminate Jews and won't stop what they are doing.  We'll see if Netenyahu really means getting revenge.

Nonsense,there was no failure of intelligence. They knew all of this.


Btw about wanting to exterminate, all Semite people are like this . Exterminate,expel the other group. No coexistence possible. Palestinians,Jews,all are like this.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 10, 2023, 05:34:06 PM
If I may make a serious post to my fellow Getbiggers, it is to first say that if I could spend my life doing nothing but killing religious extremists, I would. Nothing would bring me more pleasure than to put a bullet into the head of every single man who would target innocent women, children, and animals.

I've not seen footage of the attacks, but assuming the content that's being described is true, it is my sincere wish that every single person responsible for the targeting of those civilians is wiped off the face of the Earth.

It is worth mentioning now that one can despise Islamic extremists with every ounce of breath in one's body, and likewise feel nothing but utter contempt for what the Israeli state has done to the people of Palestine. That's certainly how I feel. The right to be free in one's own land is either universally valid or it is not valid at all.

"The first casualty when war comes is truth" is a platitude, though no less true for being one. And in the coming days and weeks we will no doubt be bombarded with propaganda from all sides. Think for yourself and examine the sources.

I have stayed in the most religiously conservative places on the planet, sometimes alone, and with Salafists in the same area broadcasting from the mosque that I was there to corrupt their women (I may have corrupted a few, but that was a lucky guess on their part, lol). What I can say for sure, though, is that 90% of the people around me were as far removed from these extremists as you and I. I met some of the most open, funny, and loving people I've ever known in some of these countries. Do not let the actions of extremists force you to view the world as they do.

The few million people in Gaza being bombed now are not responsible for the crimes of Hamas. Just as the innocent victims murdered by their hand were not responsible for the crimes of the Israeli government.

The blind hatred and brutality that we see being delivered to civilians on both sides here is a tragically ubiquitous aspect of our human nature that emerges in every conflict. We saw it in Nanking, in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, in Rwanda, in Vietnam, in Algeria, in Sri Lanka, in Ukraine, and countless other examples. Nobody is immune from the corrosive effects of war on their moral faculties. Believe me, we—the UK, US, and Australia—intentionally targeted our own fair share of innocent civilians in recent wars.

The conflict in Israel and Palestine is a long a tragic one that only serves to show that violence begets violence. My thoughts are with every innocent family involved.
Title: Re: Israel Attached - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 10, 2023, 05:34:49 PM
Nonsense,there was no failure of intelligence. They knew all of this.


Btw about wanting to exterminate, all Semite people are like this . Exterminate,expel the other group. No coexistence possible. Palestinians,Jews,all are like this.


Apparently Egypt warned Israel about 10 days prior to the attack that they had intelligence of a upcoming terror event... and it’s believed that Egypt told the USA as well
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 10, 2023, 05:41:21 PM
You can stop calling yourself a Nazi and just identify as a Jew lover.

He probably got underdosed gear causing him high estrogen
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 10, 2023, 05:56:56 PM
I’m no fan of Joo-ing horseshit, but …

I watched a video of filthy Muzzies slowly driving around in a pickup with the corpse of a once-beautiful girl, nude, and with her limbs broken and resting in unnatural positions, in the bed.

As the vehicle made its way through the throngs of people, random pieces of worthless shit were spitting onto her facedown body.

Beheaded babies everywhere … females raped …

Islam and its followers, every damn one of them, are the scum of this planet.

That video gutted Fortress’s heart.

 :-[

People on the Internet are saying she's still alive and they were taking her to hospital. To me it looked like a corpse. Legs all fucked up, massive bleeding back of head. Here's a clip of her mother now saying she's still alive, apparently. Check this link

https://twitter.com/RosettaNews/status/1711847903965094337

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 10, 2023, 06:01:54 PM
If I may make a serious post to my fellow Getbiggers, it is to first say that if I could spend my life doing nothing but killing religious extremists, I would. Nothing would bring me more pleasure than to put a bullet into the head of every single man who would target innocent women, children, and animals.

I've not seen footage of the attacks, but assuming the content that's being described is true, it is my sincere wish that every single person responsible for the targeting of those civilians is wiped off the face of the Earth.

It is worth mentioning now that one can despise Islamic extremists with every ounce of breath in one's body, and likewise feel nothing but utter contempt for what the Israeli state has done to the people of Palestine. That's certainly how I feel. The right to be free in one's own land is either universally valid or it is not valid at all.

"The first casualty when war comes is truth" is a platitude, though no less true for being one. And in the coming days and weeks we will no doubt be bombarded with propaganda from all sides. Think for yourself and examine the sources.

I have stayed in the most religiously conservative places on the planet, sometimes alone, and with Salafists in the same area broadcasting from the mosque that I was there to corrupt their women (I may have corrupted a few, but that was a lucky guess on their part, lol). What I can say for sure, though, is that 90% of the people around me were as far removed from these extremists as you and I. I met some of the most open, funny, and loving people I've ever known in some of these countries. Do not let the actions of extremists force you to view the world as they do.

The few million people in Gaza being bombed now are not responsible for the crimes of Hamas. Just as the innocent victims murdered by their hand were not responsible for the crimes of the Israeli government.

The blind hatred and brutality that we see being delivered to civilians on both sides here is a tragically ubiquitous aspect of our human nature that emerges in every conflict. We saw it in Nanking, in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, in Rwanda, in Vietnam, in Algeria, in Sri Lanka, in Ukraine, and countless other examples. Nobody is immune from the corrosive effects of war on their moral faculties. Believe me, we—the UK, US, and Australia—intentionally targeted our own fair share of innocent civilians in recent wars.

The conflict in Israel and Palestine is a long a tragic one that only serves to show that violence begets violence. My thoughts are with every innocent family involved.

Very accurate & truthful post
Well said. 👊🏻
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 10, 2023, 06:10:11 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z581dbGqr08&pp=ygUbamV3cyBzcGl0dGluZyBvbiBjaHJpc3RpYW5z
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 10, 2023, 06:21:12 PM
What happened the iron dome the USA paid for?

Or did they ship it to Ukraine?

Million dollar Iron dome missiles  to take out $5000 dollar Muslim crap missiles. That's sustainable.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 10, 2023, 06:25:22 PM
At this point we should be more concerned about the very real possibilities of attacks here with terrorist cell’s crossing our southern borders on the daily.
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 10, 2023, 06:25:39 PM
lol... we are holding hundreds of billions of dollars from Iran...all of it collecting interest   We gave them a few rupees.   We also seized a bunch of other shit too like an entire fucking skyscraper in NY worth a billion.

Why release the money at all. It all reeks of money laundering. These congressmen make 175K a year but live way better than most movie stars.  Senator Diane Fiestein had 150 million when she died, multiple mansions and a jet.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 10, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
People on the Internet are saying she's still alive and they were taking her to hospital. To me it looked like a corpse. Legs all fucked up, massive bleeding back of head. Here's a clip of her mother now saying she's still alive, apparently. Check this link

https://twitter.com/RosettaNews/status/1711847903965094337

I wish it weren’t true, but the girl I saw in the video is most certainly dead.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 10, 2023, 06:48:54 PM
I wish it weren’t true, but the girl I saw in the video is most certainly dead.

Exactly what I thought. I've broke my leg in that position and even morphine injections couldn't get me on the ambulance they had to drive doctors out to inject ketamine into me x2 to knock me out for the ambulance trip. There's no way she was unconscious with those injuries. The adrenaline alone would keep her up. That patch of blood was probably where she was shot in the head. Makes no sense she was alive. Its definitely the same girl as in the music festival the clothing is the same
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 10, 2023, 06:50:49 PM
https://x.com/GeneralMCNews/status/1711886830306795678?s=20
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 10, 2023, 06:51:53 PM
https://x.com/trtworld/status/1711750682733355146?s=20
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 10, 2023, 06:53:38 PM
Israel has the right to defend itself

Palestine/Hamas losing sympathy for attacking civilians
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Flexacon on October 10, 2023, 07:01:21 PM
Those muslims are just absolutely ruthless. Combine young men, with a lack of education, with little pleasure in their lives and a disenfranchised sense of belonging, along religion and charismatic leaders, and you have a very volatile combination.

This may be true in places like Afghanistan with the Taliban and Somilia with their islamists, but in a lot of other places radicalisation happens at university level.

Remember a lot of ISIS were western educated. Had access to drugs, alcohol and horny white women. They were radicalised in their late teens and early 20s by charismatic leaders like you mention AND also because they were constantly being harassed by intelligence services to become informants.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Flexacon on October 10, 2023, 07:02:16 PM
You can stop calling yourself a Nazi and just identify as a Jew lover.

Brutal calling out!
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: Bevo on October 11, 2023, 12:08:25 AM
What i want to read tomorrow or in the next week

Israel at War

China reclaims Taiwan

Belarus returns   to Russia while Ukraine falls

Poland conquers left part of Ukraine

North Korea sets its eyes on South Korea and Marches on as India, Pakistan, Iran and Syria launches what they have on Nato

bhanky bench presses 365

 ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Bevo on October 11, 2023, 12:10:39 AM
Israel is getting pay back
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 11, 2023, 12:24:35 AM

A horrible scenario.

So much distraction and outrage over 10 things at once. We have people abusing others whether a video of a girl in a pickup was alive or not. People going apeshit seeing protests against Palestine. People going apeshit seeing protests against Israel.

So much outrage you won’t notice fuel at USD13 gallon next year.

The Devil runs the world, we are play things.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 11, 2023, 12:46:01 AM
At this point we should be more concerned about the very real possibilities of attacks here with terrorist cell’s crossing our southern borders on the daily.
I would definitely stay off of airplanes.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 01:14:49 AM
https://x.com/GeneralMCNews/status/1711886830306795678?s=20
Was that an Inbreeding Convention?! The rumors are true then. What a bunch of ugly, fucked up and inbred individuals. They need to kill themselves by jumping into a fire oven.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 01:16:16 AM
Israel has the right to defend itself

Palestine/Hamas losing sympathy for attacking civilians
Israel is now also attacking civilians, I would bet. What are the casualties on both sides? What about the past 10-20 years?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 01:18:19 AM
https://x.com/trtworld/status/1711750682733355146?s=20
What are all these weird creatures sitting around Bibi? They look retarded / disabled. Does he work with retards?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 01:22:51 AM
A horrible scenario.

So much distraction and outrage over 10 things at once. We have people abusing others whether a video of a girl in a pickup was alive or not. People going apeshit seeing protests against Palestine. People going apeshit seeing protests against Israel.

So much outrage you won’t notice fuel at USD13 gallon next year.

The Devil runs the world, we are play things.

What's your timeline for the dollar collapse? Are the printers going to be fired up soon?! Consumers are finally starting to buckle, hence the Amazon Prime discounts currently available. And all the other retailers - Walmart, B&H Video, etc. have priced their stuff to match Amazon. They are trying to get people to start shopping again.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 11, 2023, 02:04:55 AM
What are all these weird creatures sitting around Bibi? They look retarded / disabled. Does he work with retards?

Those are envoys of Xenu

(Aliens inhabiting husks)
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: youandme on October 11, 2023, 02:15:32 AM
Million dollar Iron dome missiles  to take out $5000 dollar Muslim crap missiles. That's sustainable.
$40,000 per iron dome missile launched. The rockets they intercept and destroy are as cheap as $700.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 11, 2023, 02:48:37 AM
What's your timeline for the dollar collapse? Are the printers going to be fired up soon?! Consumers are finally starting to buckle, hence the Amazon Prime discounts currently available. And all the other retailers - Walmart, B&H Video, etc. have priced their stuff to match Amazon. They are trying to get people to start shopping again.

What dollar collapse?

Earlier this year I said USD to new highs. I expect that inside of 2.5yrs.

The collapse in demand is part of my 2020 strategy. Demand collapsing leads to higher prices and is inflationary. We are operating in my world of the autistic spastic, not the average Joe world. It’s why average people are losing their mind, nothing works in their eyes.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 11, 2023, 04:17:30 AM
An Israeli woman held hostage in her home for 15 hours said she distracted Hamas militants with coffee and cookies until special forces came to her rescue and killed the intruders

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/8yy603jtyxWj6d.D69d37g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xODAwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/business_insider_articles_888/5cf2cfe7b4791cb079384d0514d1115b)

On Saturday, five armed Hamas gunmen invaded Rachel and David Adari's home in the southern Israel town of Ofakim, the couple said, as part of large-scale surprise attacks that killed at least 800 people and resulted in hundreds of civilians and military personnel taken captive.

"I said to my husband, if we will die, we will die together," Rachel Adari told the outlet in Hebrew.

She said she tried to buy some time in the hope that her son, a police officer, would help Israel's YAMAM counterterrorism force rescue them.

"I saw they were mad, and I asked them if they were hungry," she said. "I made them coffee and gave them cookies. They started singing [Israeli singer] Lior Narkis songs to me. I distracted them. I knew my son was helping the YAMAM and that they would come rescue me."

Israeli special forces killed the Hamas militants and freed Rachel and David Adari after they had been held for 15 hours.

"At 2:30 a.m., a grenade landed next to us, and I jumped on top of my wife," David Adari said. "Bullets flew over our heads. I have no idea how we survived."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/israeli-woman-held-hostage-her-193255039.html
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 11, 2023, 06:28:01 AM
What dollar collapse?

Earlier this year I said USD to new highs. I expect that inside of 2.5yrs.

The collapse in demand is part of my 2020 strategy. Demand collapsing leads to higher prices and is inflationary. We are operating in my world of the autistic spastic, not the average Joe world. It’s why average people are losing their mind, nothing works in their eyes.

Oil market hasn’t treated this like a major issue. One day spike at that’s been it so far.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: oldschoolfan on October 11, 2023, 07:17:21 AM
If I may make a serious post to my fellow Getbiggers, it is to first say that if I could spend my life doing nothing but killing religious extremists, I would. Nothing would bring me more pleasure than to put a bullet into the head of every single man who would target innocent women, children, and animals.

I've not seen footage of the attacks, but assuming the content that's being described is true, it is my sincere wish that every single person responsible for the targeting of those civilians is wiped off the face of the Earth.

It is worth mentioning now that one can despise Islamic extremists with every ounce of breath in one's body, and likewise feel nothing but utter contempt for what the Israeli state has done to the people of Palestine. That's certainly how I feel. The right to be free in one's own land is either universally valid or it is not valid at all.

"The first casualty when war comes is truth" is a platitude, though no less true for being one. And in the coming days and weeks we will no doubt be bombarded with propaganda from all sides. Think for yourself and examine the sources.

I have stayed in the most religiously conservative places on the planet, sometimes alone, and with Salafists in the same area broadcasting from the mosque that I was there to corrupt their women (I may have corrupted a few, but that was a lucky guess on their part, lol). What I can say for sure, though, is that 90% of the people around me were as far removed from these extremists as you and I. I met some of the most open, funny, and loving people I've ever known in some of these countries. Do not let the actions of extremists force you to view the world as they do.

The few million people in Gaza being bombed now are not responsible for the crimes of Hamas. Just as the innocent victims murdered by their hand were not responsible for the crimes of the Israeli government.

The blind hatred and brutality that we see being delivered to civilians on both sides here is a tragically ubiquitous aspect of our human nature that emerges in every conflict. We saw it in Nanking, in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, in Rwanda, in Vietnam, in Algeria, in Sri Lanka, in Ukraine, and countless other examples. Nobody is immune from the corrosive effects of war on their moral faculties. Believe me, we—the UK, US, and Australia—intentionally targeted our own fair share of innocent civilians in recent wars.

The conflict in Israel and Palestine is a long a tragic one that only serves to show that violence begets violence. My thoughts are with every innocent family involved.

Good post
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 11, 2023, 07:27:22 AM
If I may make a serious post to my fellow Getbiggers, it is to first say that if I could spend my life doing nothing but killing religious extremists, I would. Nothing would bring me more pleasure than to put a bullet into the head of every single man who would target innocent women, children, and animals.

I've not seen footage of the attacks, but assuming the content that's being described is true, it is my sincere wish that every single person responsible for the targeting of those civilians is wiped off the face of the Earth.

It is worth mentioning now that one can despise Islamic extremists with every ounce of breath in one's body, and likewise feel nothing but utter contempt for what the Israeli state has done to the people of Palestine. That's certainly how I feel. The right to be free in one's own land is either universally valid or it is not valid at all.

"The first casualty when war comes is truth" is a platitude, though no less true for being one. And in the coming days and weeks we will no doubt be bombarded with propaganda from all sides. Think for yourself and examine the sources.

I have stayed in the most religiously conservative places on the planet, sometimes alone, and with Salafists in the same area broadcasting from the mosque that I was there to corrupt their women (I may have corrupted a few, but that was a lucky guess on their part, lol). What I can say for sure, though, is that 90% of the people around me were as far removed from these extremists as you and I. I met some of the most open, funny, and loving people I've ever known in some of these countries. Do not let the actions of extremists force you to view the world as they do.

The few million people in Gaza being bombed now are not responsible for the crimes of Hamas. Just as the innocent victims murdered by their hand were not responsible for the crimes of the Israeli government.

The blind hatred and brutality that we see being delivered to civilians on both sides here is a tragically ubiquitous aspect of our human nature that emerges in every conflict. We saw it in Nanking, in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, in Rwanda, in Vietnam, in Algeria, in Sri Lanka, in Ukraine, and countless other examples. Nobody is immune from the corrosive effects of war on their moral faculties. Believe me, we—the UK, US, and Australia—intentionally targeted our own fair share of innocent civilians in recent wars.

The conflict in Israel and Palestine is a long a tragic one that only serves to show that violence begets violence. My thoughts are with every innocent family involved.
that would certainly solve any over population problems

Most of us are complicit to some degree with the killing of women and children and enjoy the spoils of what come with that
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 11, 2023, 07:41:29 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 11, 2023, 07:47:56 AM
Palestinians are the shit eating Dung Beetles of islime.   I would say I am very familiar with them but  most here wouldn't know the difference between Yassar Arafat and Ringo Starr.

Here are two differentiators - Ringo is still alive and beat on the drums. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on October 11, 2023, 07:51:36 AM
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Fuc%ing animal!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 11, 2023, 08:02:21 AM
Palestinians are the shit eating Dung Beetles of islime.   I would say I am very familiar with them but  most here wouldn't know the difference between Yassar Arafat and Ringo Starr.

Here are two differentiators - Ringo is still alive and beat on the drums.



(https://media.tenor.com/XQ8QBJ5iaJwAAAAC/planet-of-the-apes-charlton-heston.gif)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 11, 2023, 09:08:00 AM
Mark Dice's take

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2PBsWh70Wig
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 11, 2023, 09:38:41 AM
that would certainly solve any over population problems

Most of us are complicit to some degree with the killing of women and children and enjoy the spoils of what come with that

True, I agree, but I think we can still draw a distinction between those who are complicit in the perpetuation of injustices through ignorance, and those who actively participate in atrocities through hatred and moral bankruptcy. It is the responsibility of all of us to examine and address cases where we might fall into the former category, and to fight against those who are irredeemably stuck in the latter.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 11, 2023, 09:39:19 AM
Gaza electric plant is out of fuel. They are done.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 11, 2023, 09:49:28 AM


(https://media.tenor.com/XQ8QBJ5iaJwAAAAC/planet-of-the-apes-charlton-heston.gif)

Scotty isn't lying

He is very close to the Pooperstinians
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 11, 2023, 09:57:57 AM
I know little to nothing about the shit-skin muzzie areas of the world.

Did Hamas start this conflict thinking they would win, or are they just sacrificing themselves for the fake Virgin Fukkah "Allah the Kvnt"??
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Bevo on October 11, 2023, 10:58:23 AM
You can stop calling yourself a Nazi and just identify as a Jew lover.

Hitler would not approve of this behavior
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 11, 2023, 11:23:45 AM
I know little to nothing about the shit-skin muzzie areas of the world.

Did Hamas start this conflict thinking they would win, or are they just sacrificing themselves for the fake Virgin Fukkah "Allah the Kvnt"??

Or possibly some other options.

The slogan of the IDF is "without deception, a nation falls'. Groups can be funded and infiltrated. And war crime propaganda is basically 'public relations'.

One of many examples of "playing both sides" in the US alone: Jewish activist and JDO leader Mordechai Levy surreptitiously organized a "nazi" and klan march in Phili's Independence Hall in '79...and then protested against the fake nazis--that he invented. Hutzpah:

"On Feb. 16, 1979, "James "Guttmann" applied for a permit to hold a combined demonstration of the Nazi Party and Ku Klux Klan at Philadelphia's Independence Hall. Within hours, the Jewish Defense League was mobilized as the leaders of a Coalition to Stop the Nazis and Klan which announced that it would hold an
armed counterdemonstration. As the confrontation loomed, the city of Philadelphia braced for its potentially far-reaching repercussions.

But within six days, the crisis had passed. The Nazi-" Klan coalition had called off its demonstration when its organizer refused to appear in court and disbanded,
the Zionist-organized countercoalition likewise. It had come to light that the Nazi leader, "James Guttmann,"was actually Mordecai Levy. Levy, sources reported, is an agent of both the American Jewish Committee and the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith as well as a leader of a New JDL terrorist cell."

-----------------------

Mordecai Levy later confessed he was trying to scare American Jews into Aliyah. WW2 is rife with war crime propaganda like Germans making human lampshades and turning 26 million!!!! people into bars of soap. Talk about blood libel. Organized Jewry later admitted that the propaganda had no basis in truth and left its mention out of WW2 internment museums but also quickly helped make it illegal to disagree with internment camp dogma in Europe and they're working on criminalizing "unauthorized" speech in the US as well.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 11, 2023, 11:25:21 AM
Hitler would not approve of this behavior

(https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2023-10-11_10-35-47.png?itok=yCuyC2aX)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 11, 2023, 11:53:11 AM


(https://media.tenor.com/XQ8QBJ5iaJwAAAAC/planet-of-the-apes-charlton-heston.gif)

I can tell you he knows EXACTLY what he’s talking about.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 11, 2023, 12:09:24 PM
I can tell you he knows EXACTLY what he’s talking about.

Ummm, I can ASSURE you he fucking doesn't. Did he meet all these Palestinians on one of his many made-up trips to heaven? Lololol. Stop falling for the hate-filled ramblings of a lonely loser online. There's not a person on this planet who has visited Palestine and would be spewing these rabid, moronic rants calling for the death of an entire population. If there is, they belong in the same category as ISIS. He does it to try and fit in and make friends.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 11, 2023, 12:10:13 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyQiSX7uxc_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 11, 2023, 12:11:29 PM
Ummm, I can ASSURE you he fucking doesn't. Did he meet all these Palestinians on one of his many made-up trips to heaven? Lololol. Stop falling for the hate-filled ramblings of a lonely loser online. There's not a person on this planet who has visited Palestine and would be spewing these rabid, moronic rants calling for the death of an entire population. If there is, they belong in the same category as ISIS. He does it to try and fit in and make friends.



The fact you’re a gimmick and I personally know him…..
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 11, 2023, 12:13:01 PM
The fact you’re a gimmick and I personally know him…..

So you agree with his statement that they are all scum and should die. Yes or no?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 11, 2023, 12:15:44 PM
Brutal calling out!

Indeed. I mean, how could I express sadness about babies being decapitated and women being raped.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 11, 2023, 12:16:50 PM
Hitler would not approve of this behavior

Exactly
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 01:05:49 PM
What dollar collapse?

Earlier this year I said USD to new highs. I expect that inside of 2.5yrs.

The collapse in demand is part of my 2020 strategy. Demand collapsing leads to higher prices and is inflationary. We are operating in my world of the autistic spastic, not the average Joe world. It’s why average people are losing their mind, nothing works in their eyes.
I am not so sure about that. It's not collapsing now relative to other FIAT currencies. But the prices of good and services are going up. And the US debt is completely unsustainable. Washington weaponizing the dollar via sanctions and freezing funds does not help either. Nations will want to divest in the dollar. The writing is on the wall. It's not if but when it will collapse.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

As of October 2023:

US National Debt: $33.5 trillion
Debt per Taxpayer: $258,257

US Unfunded Liabilities: $194.5 trillion
Liability per Citizen: $578,858

Interest on US debt on track to reach $ 1 trillion by 2025.

https://ctexaminer.com/2023/08/31/interest-on-debt-on-track-to-hit-1-trillion/#:~:text=So%2C%20net%20interest%20will%20easily,federal%20budget%20after%20Social%20Security.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/10/10/us-dollar-collapse-shock-8-trillion-predicted-fed-inflation-flip-to-spark-a-critical-bitcoin-ethereum-xrp-and-crypto-price-boom-to-rival-gold/?sh=46ab53c76cec

U.S. Dollar ‘Collapse’—Shock $8 Trillion Predicted Fed Inflation Flip To Spark A ‘Critical’ Bitcoin, Ethereum, XRP And Crypto Price Boom To Rival Gold

Now, as the Federal Reserve grapples with a $33 trillion U.S. "debt death spiral," Jefferies' analysts have warned the Fed will be forced to restart its money printer—potentially collapsing the U.S. dollar and fueling a bitcoin price boom to rival gold.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 11, 2023, 01:09:44 PM
UK foreign secretary double standards

Refuses to condemn Israels attack of civilians in response to the Hamas attack

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 01:11:53 PM
Regarding the US debt to income ratio:

2023 US Tax Revenue: +/- $5 trillion

Debt: $33.5 trillion

2025 US Interest on Debt: $1 trillion

This is similar to a person with a $50,000 annual income being $335,000 in debt. And paying $10,000 in interest. So now their $50,000 income is actually $40,000. And the debt stays at $335,000 if they only pay the interest.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 11, 2023, 01:13:23 PM
True, I agree, but I think we can still draw a distinction between those who are complicit in the perpetuation of injustices through ignorance, and those who actively participate in atrocities through hatred and moral bankruptcy. It is the responsibility of all of us to examine and address cases where we might fall into the former category, and to fight against those who are irredeemably stuck in the latter.
Agreed
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 11, 2023, 01:20:14 PM
So you agree with his statement that they are all scum and should die. Yes or no?

You are absolutely missing my point. This isn’t about what I think. Im telling you he knows what he knows.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 01:32:10 PM
Indeed. I mean, how could I express sadness about babies being decapitated and women being raped.
Can you post a link to a reputable source that babies were decapitated? Not saying it did not happen, just don't know if it did.

The reason I ask is we've been here before. In 1990 it was claimed that Iraq was taking babies out of incubators. This testimony ended up being false, a lie. Just like the Gulf of Tonkin incident proved to be distorted and false.

The "Empire of Lies" does what it does, LIE!

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 11, 2023, 01:44:53 PM
You are absolutely missing my point. This isn’t about what I think. Im telling you he knows what he knows.

It is very much about what you think. You and him both started the conversations with me, and you associate with him in real life.

You've assured me he knows EXACTLY what he's taking about, but given that he puts forward no arguments ever, and merely concludes that "Palestinians are the shit eating Dung Beetles of islime." That "Palestinians are scum", and that he looks forward to Israel wiping them all out, that is the extent of it.

Bear in mind there's a few million trapped in Gaza right now, where many women and children are being blown to bits indiscriminately. Your friend KNOWS those statements about them to be true, correct? That's what you're saying.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: deadz on October 11, 2023, 01:46:05 PM
theync.com for all your unfiltered beheading videos etc
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 11, 2023, 01:50:14 PM
If I may make a serious post to my fellow Getbiggers, it is to first say that if I could spend my life doing nothing but killing religious extremists, I would. Nothing would bring me more pleasure than to put a bullet into the head of every single man who would target innocent women, children, and animals.

I've not seen footage of the attacks, but assuming the content that's being described is true, it is my sincere wish that every single person responsible for the targeting of those civilians is wiped off the face of the Earth.

It is worth mentioning now that one can despise Islamic extremists with every ounce of breath in one's body, and likewise feel nothing but utter contempt for what the Israeli state has done to the people of Palestine. That's certainly how I feel. The right to be free in one's own land is either universally valid or it is not valid at all.

"The first casualty when war comes is truth" is a platitude, though no less true for being one. And in the coming days and weeks we will no doubt be bombarded with propaganda from all sides. Think for yourself and examine the sources.

I have stayed in the most religiously conservative places on the planet, sometimes alone, and with Salafists in the same area broadcasting from the mosque that I was there to corrupt their women (I may have corrupted a few, but that was a lucky guess on their part, lol). What I can say for sure, though, is that 90% of the people around me were as far removed from these extremists as you and I. I met some of the most open, funny, and loving people I've ever known in some of these countries. Do not let the actions of extremists force you to view the world as they do.

The few million people in Gaza being bombed now are not responsible for the crimes of Hamas. Just as the innocent victims murdered by their hand were not responsible for the crimes of the Israeli government.

The blind hatred and brutality that we see being delivered to civilians on both sides here is a tragically ubiquitous aspect of our human nature that emerges in every conflict. We saw it in Nanking, in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, in Rwanda, in Vietnam, in Algeria, in Sri Lanka, in Ukraine, and countless other examples. Nobody is immune from the corrosive effects of war on their moral faculties. Believe me, we—the UK, US, and Australia—intentionally targeted our own fair share of innocent civilians in recent wars.

The conflict in Israel and Palestine is a long a tragic one that only serves to show that violence begets violence. My thoughts are with every innocent family involved.

Good post. This being getbig I thought the Israeli supporters would have called you a Muslim and the Palestinian supporters would have called you a Jew. I was wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mohammed Omari on October 11, 2023, 02:05:54 PM
Never mind, Coach. I'm supposed to wind other people up. I'm winding myself up too much here, lol. Allah have mercy. I need a break.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 11, 2023, 02:46:59 PM
Oil market hasn’t treated this like a major issue. One day spike at that’s been it so far.

I had about 4 things pointing to November 2023 as an equity bottom so that is still 2-6 week window which sets the bottom. I’m going with my own gut to simply wait.

I’m quietly confident this Israel/Palestine thing goes belly up and causes and energy crisis. We are due for an inflationary event as it’s the start of the 2nd wave . This happens and the entire world magically gets involved within 2hrs occupying 100% of media airtime……

The increase ‘should be’ and just keep climbing. I am going to take energy positions post November.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 11, 2023, 02:47:15 PM
Never mind, Coach. I'm supposed to wind other people up. I'm winding myself up too much here, lol. Allah have mercy. I need a break.


Allah peanut butter sandwich whatever.   When the Jews get finished with those slingshots, there won't be enough coffins to bury everyone in...or enough people alive to make them.   They'll be eating hummus with Yasser Arafat
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 11, 2023, 03:00:28 PM
.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 11, 2023, 03:12:13 PM
I am not so sure about that. It's not collapsing now relative to other FIAT currencies. But the prices of good and services are going up. And the US debt is completely unsustainable. Washington weaponizing the dollar via sanctions and freezing funds does not help either. Nations will want to divest in the dollar. The writing is on the wall. It's not if but when it will collapse.

Way over thinking and you missed what has happened.

Debt to GDP is in decline. Almost -10% from peak.

GDP Q3 highest in decades. Highest wage increases in decades. Property will be at ATH next year and +20% ATH in 2025.

Bond prices fell like a mofo meaning US can buy back debt at a large discount to what they sold it at. This is how debt is monetised, this is what it looks like. You get a property bailout at the cost of affordability of ‘wants’.

Other nations dropping the dollar is because THEY are failing, not the US.

I think it’s a case of emotional bias for the majority. The bad news headlines are what they cling onto and dismiss everything else which leads them astray. Redards like me don’t emotionally react to much, I said this week the outcome of the  ‘ voice’ vote downunder will be a ‘yes’ and Israel/Palestine will result in energy sanctions/embargoes giving us AUD$6/L fuel by 2025. Family members went apeshit at me lol 🤷 hence I say average Joe is mentally breaking in this environment, emotionally paralysed.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 11, 2023, 03:29:56 PM
The media is in full propaganda mode at the moment
Condemning Hames killing women and children and innocent civilians yet watching with glee as Israel bombs the shit out of civilian targets in Palestine

Saw Ben Shapiro criticising Hamas for hiding weapons under schools and hospitals saying what sort of people would do that?

Errr.   Clever ones if you ask me, that is if their opponents have any shred of decency not to bomb them anyway
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 11, 2023, 03:41:30 PM
Who wants to tell them?

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 11, 2023, 03:42:49 PM
The media is in full propaganda mode at the moment
Condemning Hames killing women and children and innocent civilians yet watching with glee as Israel bombs the shit out of civilian targets in Palestine

Saw Ben Shapiro criticising Hamas for hiding weapons under schools and hospitals saying what sort of people would do that?

Errr.   Clever ones if you ask me, that is if their opponents have any shred of decency not to bomb them anyway


Makes you wonder if something big is happening right now in Ukraine that they don’t want us to know about.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 11, 2023, 04:00:50 PM

Makes you wonder if something big is happening right now in Ukraine that they don’t want us to know about.
Russia has won?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 11, 2023, 04:10:11 PM
Russia has won?

Yeah, exactly
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rambone on October 11, 2023, 04:12:29 PM
Who wants to tell them?

Lmao!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 11, 2023, 04:18:45 PM
Can you post a link to a reputable source that babies were decapitated? Not saying it did not happen, just don't know if it did.

The reason I ask is we've been here before. In 1990 it was claimed that Iraq was taking babies out of incubators. This testimony ended up being false, a lie. Just like the Gulf of Tonkin incident proved to be distorted and false.

The "Empire of Lies" does what it does, LIE!



Well, this is true, yes. Joos are underhanded peoples.

This is why I always say …

What do I know.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Theoak* on October 11, 2023, 04:26:27 PM
What's your timeline for the dollar collapse? Are the printers going to be fired up soon?! Consumers are finally starting to buckle, hence the Amazon Prime discounts currently available. And all the other retailers - Walmart, B&H Video, etc. have priced their stuff to match Amazon. They are trying to get people to start shopping again.

Don't fall for doom and gloom so called economic experts. USD will be  the last dollar to collapse and we most likely won't see it in our lifetime.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 11, 2023, 05:16:19 PM

Allah peanut butter sandwich whatever.   When the Jews get finished with those slingshots, there won't be enough coffins to bury everyone in...or enough people alive to make them.   They'll be eating hummus with Yasser Arafat

Aren't you African Americans decent God loving person's who have been terribly oppressed .....?  Maybe we shouldn't have freed you out of slavery yet.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 11, 2023, 05:28:06 PM
Don't fall for doom and gloom so called economic experts. USD will be  the last dollar to collapse and we most likely won't see it in our lifetime.

Agree. People tend to analyze in a vacuum. The reality is the entire world is bankrupt but the US has the best companies and the strongest military.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 05:59:46 PM
Agree. People tend to analyze in a vacuum. The reality is the entire world is bankrupt but the US has the best companies and the strongest military.
Russia's Natural Resources: $75 trillion
Russia's Debt: $0.28 trillion

USA's Natural Resources: $45 trillion
USA's Debt: $33.5 trillion

USA's debt is 119.6 times that of Russia. Russia's debt to GDP is also a lot better. Russia's military is not infested with transgenders and homos.

Russia would beat the USA in a conventional war 100%, especially if the USA tried to attack Russia at home. The few soldiers they could enlist would not even make it across the ocean. A nuclear war would be the end of both. From where I am sitting USA looks like an accident waiting to happen. Rome is burning but nobody is noticing.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090516/10-countries-most-natural-resources.asp#:~:text=It's%20estimated%20that%20Russia's%20natural,the%20production%20of%20industrial%20diamonds.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/31/infographic-how-does-us-debt-rank-compared-world

This is supposed to be the leader of the USA! An installed puppet with dementia! And people still act like he is making major decisions.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/0eTrHu94lDhhFe4eNH/giphy.webp)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 11, 2023, 06:08:26 PM
You are absolutely missing my point. This isn’t about what I think. Im telling you he knows what he knows.

Deus vult, my brother.  Deus vult!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 06:09:46 PM
The media is in full propaganda mode at the moment
Condemning Hames killing women and children and innocent civilians yet watching with glee as Israel bombs the shit out of civilian targets in Palestine

Saw Ben Shapiro criticising Hamas for hiding weapons under schools and hospitals saying what sort of people would do that?

Errr.   Clever ones if you ask me, that is if their opponents have any shred of decency not to bomb them anyway
Agreed. Double standards are a constant thread within the "Empire of Lies".

This map shows it all. They have systematically pushed the Palestinians out. Ashkenazi Jews also are Jewish converts from Khazaria. Their King chose Judaism after being presented with Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. Ashkenazi's are Eastern European. Why the hardon for the land that is occupied by Israel is a mystery. That was not their land 2000 years ago.

(https://www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maps_1897-Present.jpg)

Notice how Kiev straddles Khazaria.

(https://www.isdglobal.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Screenshot-2022-05-03-at-18.43.04.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 11, 2023, 06:38:18 PM
Russia's Natural Resources: $75 trillion
Russia's Debt: $0.28 trillion

USA's Natural Resources: $45 trillion
USA's Debt: $33.5 trillion

USA's debt is 119.6 times that of Russia. Russia's debt to GDP is also a lot better. Russia's military is not infested with transgenders and homos.

Missing it entirely again.

Emissions targets have 48.5% left to fall in the next 6yrs.

We are moving to sustainability, recycling and renewable energy. Russia does not have the tech or education to make the transition. You are failing to realise the objective here which is from 2030-2050 we will experience an explosion of tech like you never dreamed of. All those patents will come out to play.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 06:51:03 PM
Missing it entirely again.

Emissions targets have 48.5% left to fall in the next 6yrs.

We are moving to sustainability, recycling and renewable energy. Russia does not have the tech or education to make the transition. You are failing to realise the objective here which is from 2030-2050 we will experience an explosion of tech like you never dreamed of. All those patents will come out to play.
Russia has more natural resources of everything. It's a bigger chunk of the Earth.

USA is completely corrupt with the cities and infrastructure falling apart. USA is worried about gender neutrality. It's got bigger problems than worrying about Ukraine and Russia. I do not view the USA's future with rosy glasses like you do.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Theoak* on October 11, 2023, 07:34:23 PM
Russia has more natural resources of everything. It's a bigger chunk of the Earth.

USA is completely corrupt with the cities and infrastructure falling apart. USA is worried about gender neutrality. It's got bigger problems than worrying about Ukraine and Russia. I do not view the USA's future with rosy glasses like you do.

Don't be fooled by silly distractions such as gender neutrality,  chick's with Dicks. Economic policy isn't governed by left or right. One could say  it's governed  by public disobedience, because they know history has shown kings, dictators even presidents can't build walls high enough to keep an oppressed mob out. The first people they come for are the rich and elites.

So they give us plebs bread crumbs, just enough to get by and appease mindles populace. Nothing more nothing less and they can keep this game going for a very long time.

In decades or even a century to come, which is what you want, things  will gradually get worse and a new standard will be introduced (btc). It will co-exist with usd and trillions will be settle on btc network. Finally have an economic  system that will prosper combined with explosion in tech as Mayday mentioned.

I wouldn't be placing bets on USA collapsing anytime soon, many more boom and bust cycles next 10 years, just hope your positioned right to maximise your profit.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 11, 2023, 07:48:37 PM
Missing it entirely again.

Emissions targets have 48.5% left to fall in the next 6yrs.

We are moving to sustainability, recycling and renewable energy. Russia does not have the tech or education to make the transition. You are failing to realise the objective here which is from 2030-2050 we will experience an explosion of tech like you never dreamed of. All those patents will come out to play.


From that same time period a culling of the population as well.

"sustainability"  PFFFT
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 11, 2023, 08:41:55 PM
Don't be fooled by silly distractions such as gender neutrality,  chick's with Dicks. Economic policy isn't governed by left or right. One could say  it's governed  by public disobedience, because they know history has shown kings, dictators even presidents can't build walls high enough to keep an oppressed mob out. The first people they come for are the rich and elites.

So they give us plebs bread crumbs, just enough to get by and appease mindles populace. Nothing more nothing less and they can keep this game going for a very long time.

In decades or even a century to come, which is what you want, things  will gradually get worse and a new standard will be introduced (btc). It will co-exist with usd and trillions will be settle on btc network. Finally have an economic  system that will prosper combined with explosion in tech as Mayday mentioned.

I wouldn't be placing bets on USA collapsing anytime soon, many more boom and bust cycles next 10 years, just hope your positioned right to maximise your profit.
Name some of these elites that people came after in the past 100 years. Especially elites that are favored by the Rothschilds. Don't mention the Czar of Russia. He was taken out by Jews.

Name one wealthy Jewish elite or wealthy associates that were taken out by mobs. 

https://www.newsweek.com/jews-killed-russia-czar-ritual-murder-726568

Jews May Have Killed Russia's Last Czar Nicholas II In Ritual Murder, Investigators Claim

(https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/726578/rtr3b0ju.webp?w=737&f=0b3f8b1b473d6488d0a0e54f729c1623)

Prince Nicolas Romanov of Russia stands in front of a enlarged photograph showing his ancestor Tsar Nicholas II, his wife Alexandra Fedorovna and four of their children.

The head of Russia's Orthodox Church is launching an investigation into whether the last Czar of Russia, Nicholas II, and his family were victims of a ritual murder carried out by angry Jews in 1918, Church leaders revealed in a statement Tuesday.

"A large share of the church commission members have no doubts that the murder was ritual," Father Tikhon Shevkunov, the Orthodox bishop heading the panel, told The Associated Press.

Russia's top investigative agency has also said it will conduct an independent probe into the theory.

Nicholas II, his wife, and their five children were executed by a Bolshevik firing squad on July 17, 1918, less than a year after a communist revolution unseated the monarchy and launched a civil war in Russia. The Russian Orthodox Church made the Czar and his family saints in 2000.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 11, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
Shapiro meltdown

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1712317725513490892
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Skeletor on October 11, 2023, 10:04:55 PM
Shapiro meltdown

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1712317725513490892

Facts don't care about his feelings or his whiny tantrum.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 12, 2023, 12:10:56 AM
Russia has more natural resources of everything. It's a bigger chunk of the Earth.

USA is completely corrupt with the cities and infrastructure falling apart. USA is worried about gender neutrality. It's got bigger problems than worrying about Ukraine and Russia. I do not view the USA's future with rosy glasses like you do.

The core of everything is a transition to green energy and sustainability. The rest is noise to keep 98% distracted.

The US is not collapsing. You are not going broke. Trannies are not going to cut off your manhood. Those stories exist for a reason but it’s not because they are true.
Title: Re: Israel now at war in 2023
Post by: pamith on October 12, 2023, 12:20:24 AM
Who fucking cares, 40 years ago this would have been a 60 second segment on the BBC News
Bro...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 12, 2023, 12:29:53 AM
Indeed. I mean, how could I express sadness about babies being decapitated and women being raped.
As I suspected. "Empire of Lies" up to it's usual tricks. Or maybe it was just biden suffering from his dementia?

https://www.rt.com/news/584717-biden-beheaded-babies-claim/

White House clarifies Biden’s ‘beheaded babies’ claim
The Israeli military says it is unable to “officially” substantiate the heinous allegation

US officials have backtracked after President Joe Biden claimed to have seen “confirmed pictures” of Palestinian militants “beheading children” in Israel, explaining that he had seen no images and was merely relaying claims from the Israeli government and media reports.

While Biden declared that he was shocked to see photos depicting brutal acts against Israeli babies while addressing Jewish leaders on Wednesday, a White House spokesperson later told the Washington Post that officials were unaware of the pictures described. They added that they had no independent confirmation for reports that children were beheaded during a major Hamas attack on Israel last weekend, despite Biden’s mention of “confirmed” images.

“The president based his comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims from [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu’s spokesman and media reports from Israel,” the Post reported, citing the White House.

Asked about the claim by The Intercept, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it could not “confirm it officially,” but stressed that “you can assume it happened and believe the report.”

“Women, children, toddlers, and elderly were brutally butchered in an ISIS way of action and we are aware of the heinous acts Hamas is capable of,” an IDF spokesperson told the outlet.

A number of similar allegations have made the rounds following the surprise attack by Palestinian armed groups last Saturday, including claims that fighters had raped Israeli women. Biden also echoed those charges earlier this week, saying that women had been “raped, assaulted [and] paraded as trophies.” The accusation also remains unverified, with the Los Angeles Times appending an editor’s note to a recent op-ed noting that “such reports have not been substantiated.”

The IDF has launched waves of airstrikes on Gaza in retaliation for the Hamas-led assault, pounding residential areas and leveling entire apartment blocks in some raids. According to local officials, around 1,200 people have been killed in Israel since Saturday, and at least 1,100 in Gaza, where more than 5,000 were also reported wounded. Israel’s long-standing blockade on Gaza has also been tightened in recent days, after the government declared a “complete siege” to halt the flow of food, fuel, and medicine into the densely populated territory.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 12, 2023, 12:42:59 AM
The core of everything is a transition to green energy and sustainability. The rest is noise to keep 98% distracted.

The US is not collapsing. You are not going broke. Trannies are not going to cut off your manhood. Those stories exist for a reason but it’s not because they are true.
What's your definition of collapse? I think it is in the early stages of collapse. I disagree with your assessment.

- The US border is wide open.
- Most politicians are corrupt.
- The justice system is corrupt and exhibits double standards - Persecution of Trump vs hillary & biden.
- Out of control debt. In past month the US added 0.5 trillion to debt.
- Moral decay.
- Infrastructure failing.
- Afghanistan fiasco.
- US losing standing worldwide. Rise of BRICS.
- US relations with Russia, China worsening almost daily.
- "Empire of Lies" - 911 Inside Job.
- COVID Scam - Originated in Wuhan Lab, funded by US. US Bio labs in Ukraine.
- Corrupt CIA and FBI
- 1/2 the population in disagreement / divided.
- Stolen Elections



US national debt surged by more than $500 billion in just 20 days to reach $33.5 trillion, according to data provided by the Treasury Department last week.
https://www.rt.com/business/584657-us-national-debt-surge-record/

I can go on. The USA is already a banana republic. DC is a cluster fuck. We have low quality, bought and paid for whore politicians. The whole thing is fucking disgusting.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 12, 2023, 03:16:18 AM

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 12, 2023, 07:16:24 AM
Aren't you African Americans decent God loving person's who have been terribly oppressed .....?  Maybe we shouldn't have freed you out of slavery yet.


One of Palestine's favorite past times is throwing gay people off of buildings so fuck those slingshots.  Israel needs to remove the kebab from the premises

As far as slavery was concern....we got sold to honks by other Javas trying to make some cash or what form of currency they use and as a result , i was born and raised in the good old USA.  The trip made here was shit, the cotton picked was shit,  the years of dealing with Jim Crow was shit....but I'm an American and thats still better than running around chucking spears at zebras and ironically being right back into slavery....and honestly places like Uganda need a nuclear bomb.   

So there...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 12, 2023, 08:08:10 AM
Shapiro meltdown

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1712317725513490892


By Shapiro's logic, Shapiro also wants to wipe Israel off the map.

Below: Playing both sides like Mordechai Levy starting his own "Nazi" group so he could fight against it.


VIDEO: Ron Paul on how Israel started Hamas: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1711609139804418127
 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1711609139804418127)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtgWDWp4/F8-DV3s-Iaw-AAawht.jpg)

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(https://i.postimg.cc/3NC6292X/F8-DV4-V-a-UAAYZ3-A.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NFcCK2C2/hamas.png)


(https://i.postimg.cc/X7XdwYMr/F8-Fhy-Rk-Wg-AAso-YK.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NGn5v8V0/F8-Lf-EXLb-UAEFo-AK.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MG7y64wm/F8-Da-L2-VXs-AA-U2-C.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTCHVq1Q/F8-Da-L2-YW4-AACNOg.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zX13fDzm/F8-Da-L2-XXw-AADmp-W.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 12, 2023, 08:09:10 AM

One of Palestine's favorite past times is throwing gay people off of buildings so fuck those slingshots.  Israel needs to remove the kebab from the premises

As far as slavery was concern....we got sold to honks by other Javas trying to make some cash or what form of currency they use and as a result , i was born and raised in the good old USA.  The trip made here was shit, the cotton picked was shit,  the years of dealing with Jim Crow was shit....but I'm an American and thats still better than running around chucking spears at zebras and ironically being right back into slavery....and honestly places like Uganda need a nuclear bomb.   

So there...

Actually that is pretty much schmoly rote for the "islimeic state".  And yet democucks love them some siliconegroes and their attendant fuck Judeo-Christian values and faith line of hate. 

The profit hoMohammed (pig blood upon him) was basically pissed that the Jews would not accept him as a profit and so long before Joseph Smith, 'Ol Mo did a Joseph Smith and declared himself a profit and his way was mo' bettah.

And being a typical siliconegroe he declared his word to be law and even married a child.   And killed those that disagreed.  And to this day his assholytes are just like Pedo-Mo.

Fuck islime and its adherents.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 12, 2023, 09:13:00 AM
They showed Pro Israel rallies on the news. The fuckers are holding up signs saying “Israel’s 911”. What the fuck. Seriously what the fuck.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 12, 2023, 09:23:17 AM
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btw Will the ICC issue an arrest order for Netanyahu for this indiscriminate bombing and ethnic cleansing?  This Kangaroo UN court is reserved for Putin I guess
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 12, 2023, 10:06:11 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 12, 2023, 10:53:13 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 12, 2023, 01:09:23 PM
Media "Do you condemn Hamas and the killing of women and Children in Israel?"
Palestinian politician "Yes", now do you condemn the killing of Palestinian women in children going on right now in Palestine commited by Israeli armed forces?
Media errrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 12, 2023, 01:17:52 PM
Media "Do you condemn Hamas and the killing of women and Children in Israel?"
Palestinian politician "Yes", now do you condemn the killing of Palestinian women in children going on right now in Palestine commited by Israeli armed forces?
Media errrrrrrrr.


Lol don’t show this to coach
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2023, 02:41:26 PM
Agreed. Double standards are a constant thread within the "Empire of Lies".

This map shows it all. They have systematically pushed the Palestinians out. Ashkenazi Jews also are Jewish converts from Khazaria. Their King chose Judaism after being presented with Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. Ashkenazi's are Eastern European. Why the hardon for the land that is occupied by Israel is a mystery. That was not their land 2000 years ago.

(https://www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maps_1897-Present.jpg)

Notice how Kiev straddles Khazaria.

(https://www.isdglobal.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Screenshot-2022-05-03-at-18.43.04.png)

I've not ever been that much concerned about Israel- only
How or why has Israel been allowed to take so much Palestinian land.
Thats clearly not right or fair.

Why hasn't America/ rest of the world said anything about that ?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 12, 2023, 03:55:34 PM
I've not ever been that much concerned about Israel- only
How or why has Israel been allowed to take so much Palestinian land.
Thats clearly not right or fair.

Why hasn't America/ rest of the world said anything about that ?
Because they created Israel - lmao! How many billions of dollars are sent to Israel every year? Biden's regime is riddled with Israel first members. They literally will choose Israel over USA. The USA is a state of Israel. That's the reality.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 12, 2023, 03:57:22 PM

One of Palestine's favorite past times is throwing gay people off of buildings so fuck those slingshots.  Israel needs to remove the kebab from the premises

As far as slavery was concern....we got sold to honks by other Javas trying to make some cash or what form of currency they use and as a result , i was born and raised in the good old USA.  The trip made here was shit, the cotton picked was shit,  the years of dealing with Jim Crow was shit....but I'm an American and thats still better than running around chucking spears at zebras and ironically being right back into slavery....and honestly places like Uganda need a nuclear bomb.   

So there...
Do you know that Jews owned many of the slave ships that transported the slaves across the Atlantic?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 12, 2023, 04:15:26 PM

By Shapiro's logic, Shapiro also wants to wipe Israel off the map.

Below: Playing both sides like Mordechai Levy starting his own "Nazi" group so he could fight against it.


VIDEO: Ron Paul on how Israel started Hamas: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1711609139804418127
 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1711609139804418127)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtgWDWp4/F8-DV3s-Iaw-AAawht.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Jn09VbVm/F8-DV4-CEbw-AAFTZx.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3NC6292X/F8-DV4-V-a-UAAYZ3-A.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NFcCK2C2/hamas.png)


(https://i.postimg.cc/X7XdwYMr/F8-Fhy-Rk-Wg-AAso-YK.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NGn5v8V0/F8-Lf-EXLb-UAEFo-AK.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MG7y64wm/F8-Da-L2-VXs-AA-U2-C.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTCHVq1Q/F8-Da-L2-YW4-AACNOg.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zX13fDzm/F8-Da-L2-XXw-AADmp-W.jpg)
Looks like Israel created Hamas so it could attack Israel and then Israel can use that as an excuse to kick Palestinians out of Gaza. They basically don't want Gaza to exist. They want the entire Israel to be one area. Very similar to the Deep State creating the 911 false flag so they could have an excuse to attack Iraq and all the other nations after that. That's how the "Empire of Lies" operates.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 12, 2023, 05:06:25 PM
Looks like Israel created Hamas so it could attack Israel and then Israel can use that as an excuse to kick Palestinians out of Gaza. They basically don't want Gaza to exist. They want the entire Israel to be one area. Very similar to the Deep State creating the 911 false flag so they could have an excuse to attack Iraq and all the other nations after that. That's how the "Empire of Lies" operates.

That seems to be the consensus

The CIA actively recruited radical Muslims and then set them up to be arrested creating the illusion of a much bigger terrorist threat

Im just waiting for someone to ask a mainstream media newscaster if they condemn Tony Blair and George Bush on their invasion of the sovereign state of Iraq in retaliation for 9/11 that was orchestrated by a bloke in a cave in Afghanistan
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 12, 2023, 05:08:14 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/584779-blinken-israel-hamas-911/

Hamas attack on Israel like ten 9/11s – Blinken
Israel is obliged to respond forcefully to such an assault, the US secretary of state has said

Blinken is such a fucking tool! He really must think he can say anything and can get away with it. Over 3000 people died in the 911 inside job, while 5 Israelis with a white van were dancing in NY as the towers collapsed. If you can believe the media, more than 1300 Israelis died when Hamas (created by Israel), attacked Israel, in what looks like another inside job. Let's round it off. 3000/1300 = +/- 2.3

If the Hamas attack was ten times worse than 911, then that means 2.3 x 10 = 23. Is he saying one Israeli is worth 23 911 Victims?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 12, 2023, 05:11:07 PM
That seems to be the consensus

The CIA actively recruited radical Muslims and then set them up to be arrested creating the illusion of a much bigger terrorist threat

Im just waiting for someone to ask a mainstream media newscaster if they condemn Tony Blair and George Bush on their invasion of the sovereign state of Iraq in retaliation for 9/11 that was orchestrated by a bloke in a cave in Afghanistan
Remember Trump said Obama (USA) was the founder of ISIS?

I really wish he would have just come out and said Jews founded ISIS. But he held back because he thought he could suck up to them. But that did not work did it?!

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-obama-clinton-founded-isis-226893

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: a_pupil on October 12, 2023, 05:18:45 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/584779-blinken-israel-hamas-911/

Hamas attack on Israel like ten 9/11s – Blinken
Israel is obliged to respond forcefully to such an assault, the US secretary of state has said

Blinken is such a fucking tool! He really must think he can say anything and can get away with it. Over 3000 people died in the 911 inside job, while 5 Israelis with a white van were dancing in NY as the towers collapsed. If you can believe the media, more than 1300 Israelis died when Hamas (created by Israel), attacked Israel, in what looks like another inside job. Let's round it off. 3000/1300 = +/- 2.3

If the Hamas attack was ten times worse than 911, then that means 2.3 x 10 = 23. Is he saying one Israeli is worth 23 911 Victims?

Goyem lives are less valuable
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 12, 2023, 06:31:20 PM
Do you know that Jews owned many of the slave ships that transported the slaves across the Atlantic?

No use- he's Uncle Tom,see previous page. Doesnt care about slavery and he's happy they shipped him over  :D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 13, 2023, 01:19:10 AM
Will there be Jews and Muzzies competing at the Olympia? We could see a true war on stage this year!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2023, 04:08:10 AM
Because they created Israel - lmao! How many billions of dollars are sent to Israel every year? Biden's regime is riddled with Israel first members. They literally will choose Israel over USA. The USA is a state of Israel. That's the reality.

Yes created by UK after WW2
And now so I'm reading Israel stared Hamas !!

Personally I say Fuck Israel/Jews & all of Islam
Nothing but scumbag trouble causer's .
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: JackTheRipper on October 13, 2023, 04:32:57 AM
Yes created by UK after WW2
And now so I'm reading Israel stared Hamas !!

Personally I say Fuck Israel/Jews & all of Islam
Nothing but scumbag trouble causer's .

actually it´s the USA who causes most shit in the world, sorry to burst your bubble
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 13, 2023, 05:06:13 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/europe/france-ban-pro-palestinian-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/europe/france-ban-pro-palestinian-intl/index.html)

Quote
Hundreds of demonstrators gathered in central Paris on Thursday, in defiance of a controversial new ban on pro-Palestinian rallies in the country.

French police and members of the gendarmerie worked to disperse the crowds with tear gas and water cannons, visuals showed.

The ban had been announced earlier in the day, according to a message sent by French Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin to the country’s police, citing concerns about public order.

“Pro-Palestinian demonstrations must be prohibited because they are likely to generate disturbances to the public order,” said the minister. He added that any organization of such protests will lead to arrests.

Discussion might be against the law soon Vince  ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 13, 2023, 06:59:24 AM
Israel will probably have to re-take direct control of Gaza.

If they allow Hamas to remain in control, this situation will keep repeating itself.

They have to completely eradicate Hamas.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 13, 2023, 07:03:13 AM
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 13, 2023, 07:09:33 AM
Israel will probably have to re-take direct control of Gaza.

If they allow Hamas to remain in control, this situation will keep repeating itself.

They have to completely eradicate Hamas.
and to do that they will have to kill every man over 18 in Palestine

If they down weapons how will they know the diffrence between Hamas and civilians?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2023, 07:21:09 AM
actually it´s the USA who causes most shit in the world, sorry to burst your bubble

And who control's America ??

Bubble Not Burst - Try again   ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 13, 2023, 07:25:29 AM
Starting at 14:35.  Decades ago, 3/4 of a million Palestinians fled their homes and villages in a panic because of their own Palestinian radio propaganda lying to them about atrocities by Israeli soldiers.

&t=875s
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 13, 2023, 07:34:49 AM
The 6 Day War.  Fuck islime.  Fuck the failistinians and just because it's me, FUCK islime.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2023, 08:21:16 AM
I've not ever been that much concerned about Israel- only
How or why has Israel been allowed to take so much Palestinian land.
Thats clearly not right or fair.

Why hasn't America/ rest of the world said anything about that ?

America wanted Israel to take that land from Palestine
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2023, 08:22:41 AM
and to do that they will have to kill every man over 18 in Palestine

If they down weapons how will they know the diffrence between Hamas and civilians?

I mean, we have Hordes of Hamas-supporters cheering in the streets here in Sweden!

They're everywhere!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 13, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
I mean, we have Hordes of Hamas-supporters cheering in the streets here in Sweden!

They're everywhere!

They'll be even more refugee hordes in European countries after this and the same media people who want Gaza leveled will be the exact same people that say Western countries of majority European descent need to take in the poor displaced people. They talk out of both sides of their mouths and only do what's best for themselves. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 13, 2023, 08:41:07 AM
An oldie but goodie:

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 13, 2023, 08:43:24 AM
I mean, we have Hordes of Hamas-supporters cheering in the streets here in Sweden!

They're everywhere!

Diversity is our strength. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Hulkotron on October 13, 2023, 08:52:57 AM
Lots of getbiggers have expertise in international relations as well as muscular development.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 13, 2023, 08:57:41 AM
Do you know that Jews owned many of the slave ships that transported the slaves across the Atlantic?


You have any proof
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2023, 09:04:59 AM

You have any proof

Wes owned one of the ships
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 13, 2023, 09:06:21 AM
I mean, we have Hordes of Hamas-supporters cheering in the streets here in Sweden!

They're everywhere!

Yeah I think we're finally having a boiling over with muslims.

22 years of "we're secular" "we're not all terrorist" "they're fundamentalist" and all that shit.

No one buys the bullshit.

Islam is a religion of hostility. It isn't just violence, it's the attitude of most Muslims.

They can't even get along with people in their own countries.

It's a religion incapable of open free democracy.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 13, 2023, 09:25:28 AM
Yeah I think we're finally having a boiling over with muslims.

22 years of "we're secular" "we're not all terrorist" "they're fundamentalist" and all that shit.

No one buys the bullshit.

Islam is a religion of hostility. It isn't just violence, it's the attitude of most Muslims.

They can't even get along with people in their own countries.

It's a religion incapable of open free democracy.

It’s a failed culture. Other than Oil, there’s nothing of value coming out of any of these countries.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 13, 2023, 09:37:35 AM
Israli ground force attack imminent , Palestinians forced to flee for their lives
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2023, 09:47:57 AM
Lots of getbiggers have expertise in international relations as well as muscular development.

I'd say many have far more knowledge & know what's going on
compared to Pedo Joe that's for sure.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 13, 2023, 11:10:40 AM
Wes owned one of the ships


Wes isn't Jewish
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2023, 11:45:21 AM

Wes isn't Jewish

He still owned a few ships that he rented to the jews
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 13, 2023, 11:48:50 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyVzn2jOzFA/?igshid=MThiYjlheGYyYzdjbQ==
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 13, 2023, 11:51:07 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyVzn2jOzFA/?igshid=MThiYjlheGYyYzdjbQ==


What a moron
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 13, 2023, 12:18:00 PM

What a moron

Why? I would say most agree.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Skeletor on October 13, 2023, 12:19:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyVzn2jOzFA/?igshid=MThiYjlheGYyYzdjbQ==

Why does he wear a foreign nation's flag on his lapel?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 13, 2023, 12:57:23 PM

You have any proof
You'll have to do your own research. You'd think that something like this would be important to you? Don't you want to know who brought slaves across the Atlantic?! You might want to skip Google though, They scrub this kind of info because the owners of Google are Jewish. Try maybe DuckDuckGo, Bing, etc.

Jews also owned Slave Plantations in the South.

Most White people did not have any slaves, they were poor themselves. This notion that Whites are responsible for Slavery is completely false. Sure, a few wealthy Whites and Jews had slaves. How is that the problem for all White people today?

Source: Elizabeth Donnan, 4 Volumes, 'Documents Illustrative of the History of the Slave Trade to America' Washington, D.C. 1930, 1935 Carnegie Institute of Technology, Pittsburgh, Pa.

In addition,

Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael

Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael is the Nathan and Sophia Gumenick Professor of Judaic Studies, Professor of Religion, and Chair, Department of Religion, The College of William and Mary, and a Visiting Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford University. He has been the editor of the quarterly journal, American Jewish History, for 19 years, and a visiting professor at Brown University, the University of Pittsburgh, HUC-JIR, UCLA, and Case Western Reserve University. He came to The College of William and Mary in 1989 after 20 years at Ohio State University. He is the author of many books on Jews and Judaism in America, and his most recent publication (with his wife Linda Schermer Raphael) is When Night Fell: An Anthology of Holocaust Short Stories (Rutgers University Press, 1999). He is now writing Judaism in America for the Contemporary American Series of Columbia University Press. Visit him at the website of his synagogue, Bet Aviv, in Columbia, Maryland.

The following passages are from Dr. Raphael's book Jews and Judaism in the United States a Documentary History (New York: Behrman House, Inc., Pub, 1983), pp. 14, 23-25.

"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French(Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.

"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750's, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760's, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760s and early 1770s dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent."

More at:

https://www.scribd.com/document/69689942/Jewish-Slave-Ship-Owners
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 13, 2023, 01:27:47 PM
Former WW2 internment camp prisoner Gabor Maté describes the Israel Palestine conflict as the longest ethnic cleansing operation of the 20th 21st centuries…

VIDEO:  https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1712402483115614498 (https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1712402483115614498)


The dumb goyim contingent of the gentile population has to understand to YOU are, for all intents and purposes, Palestinian as well, to a large and growing percentage of Israelis. You're "Edom" and rabbis openly talk about the same thing happening to Europe.

VIDEO: Rabbi after rabbi discusses wiping Europe off the map.  https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688)

VIDEO: Israelis sing and dance a song about Gaza becoming a cemetery for children.
 https://twitter.com/Lucas_Gage_/status/1712697043305525389
 (https://twitter.com/Lucas_Gage_/status/1712697043305525389)

These duel flag lapel pin nutcases like Nikki Haley and John Hagee are psychologically blind to what they're actually supporting. They're eagerly cheering on a nuclear war so Jesus will come down from the sky or whatever ancient Jewish writer's ideas fill their minds.

None of this is good for humanity.

And Ben Shapiro should register as a foreign agent.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DyMVqYyL/F8-Sv-GSJb-IAAKid-K.jpg)

And Jordan Peterson has always been a stooge. At best, he's a gateway(mainly a gatekeeper) with very mild solutions and can eventually be abandoned for much more substantive influencers.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zv3kF70P/F8-Sv-JF1bs-AEt-Sxs.jpg)

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 13, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/zv3kF70P/F8-Sv-JF1bs-AEt-Sxs.jpg)

looks like a missile hit the roof
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 13, 2023, 01:41:35 PM
Former WW2 internment camp prisoner Gabor Maté describes the Israel Palestine conflict as the longest ethnic cleansing operation of the 20th 21st centuries…

VIDEO:  https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1712402483115614498 (https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1712402483115614498)


The dumb goyim contingent of the gentile population has to understand to YOU are, for all intents and purposes, Palestinian as well, to a large and growing percentage of Israelis. You're "Edom" and rabbis openly talk about the same thing happening to Europe.

VIDEO: Rabbi after rabbi discusses wiping Europe off the map.  https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688)

VIDEO: Israelis sing and dance a song about Gaza becoming a cemetery for children.
 https://twitter.com/Lucas_Gage_/status/1712697043305525389
 (https://twitter.com/Lucas_Gage_/status/1712697043305525389)

These duel flag lapel pin nutcases like Nikki Haley and John Hagee are psychologically blind to what they're actually supporting. They're eagerly cheering on a nuclear war so Jesus will come down from the sky or whatever ancient Jewish writer's ideas fill their minds.

None of this is good for humanity.

And Ben Shapiro should register as a foreign agent.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DyMVqYyL/F8-Sv-GSJb-IAAKid-K.jpg)

And Jordan Peterson has always been a stooge. At best, he's a gateway(mainly a gatekeeper) with very mild solutions and can eventually be abandoned for much more substantive influencers.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zv3kF70P/F8-Sv-JF1bs-AEt-Sxs.jpg)
Agreed. I never trusted Ben or Jordan. Jordan never names the culprit that's responsible for the demise of the West.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 13, 2023, 01:43:19 PM
Putin is of course, again the voice of reason, as usual:

https://www.rt.com/russia/584845-putin-israel-attack-cruelty/

Attack on Israel ‘unprecedented cruelty’ – Putin

At the same time, Israel has also been using “quite brutal methods” against Hamas, the Russian president said

Israel and Palestinian militant group Hamas have displayed “brutality” and “cruelty” against each other, Russian President Vladimir Putin told reporters on Friday. He urged both parties to prioritize thinking “about the civilian population” instead.

Speaking after a press conference concluding his two-day visit to Kyrgyzstan, Putin condemned the attack on Israel, calling out the exceptional “cruelty” exhibited by Hamas.

“Israel, of course, faced an unprecedented attack, which has never happened in history, and not only in scale, but also in the nature of its execution, in cruelty – well, what can I say? We must call  things what they are,” he stated.

At the same time, Israel has responded to the attack on a massive scale “with quite brutal methods,” Putin noted, urging both parties to “think about the civilian population” despite “all the bitterness on both sides.”

The Russian president warned against imposing a total blockade on Gaza, calling this approach to the Palestinian enclave “unacceptable.”

“More than two million people live there. Not everyone supports Hamas, by the way, not everyone, yet everyone must suffer, including women and children. Of course, hardly anyone will agree with this,” the president insisted.

Putin reiterated Russia’s stance that the conflict between Israel and Hamas could only be resolved through negotiations, as well as abiding by UN resolutions, namely, creating an independent Palestine. Moscow is ready to mediate in the conflict, taking advantage of its close ties with both the Arab nations and Israel, Putin added.

“Russia can [help] precisely because we have developed very good relations with Israel over the last, say, 15 years, and traditional relations with Palestine. Therefore, no one will suspect us of wanting to play along with someone. But, of course, only if someone needs our mediation. This is always done only based on an agreement between the parties,” he concluded.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 13, 2023, 01:59:49 PM

What a moron

You were looking in a mirror when you typed that.  Your devotion to our Nation is as flaccid as your genitalia when looking a real woman.  Run along now, nellie.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 13, 2023, 02:30:32 PM
You were looking in a mirror when you typed that.  Your devotion to our Nation is as flaccid as your genitalia when looking a real woman.  Run along now, nellie.

 ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 13, 2023, 02:38:01 PM
Putin is of course, again the voice of reason, as usual:

https://www.rt.com/russia/584845-putin-israel-attack-cruelty/

Attack on Israel ‘unprecedented cruelty’ – Putin

At the same time, Israel has also been using “quite brutal methods” against Hamas, the Russian president said

Israel and Palestinian militant group Hamas have displayed “brutality” and “cruelty” against each other, Russian President Vladimir Putin told reporters on Friday. He urged both parties to prioritize thinking “about the civilian population” instead.

Speaking after a press conference concluding his two-day visit to Kyrgyzstan, Putin condemned the attack on Israel, calling out the exceptional “cruelty” exhibited by Hamas.

“Israel, of course, faced an unprecedented attack, which has never happened in history, and not only in scale, but also in the nature of its execution, in cruelty – well, what can I say? We must call  things what they are,” he stated.

At the same time, Israel has responded to the attack on a massive scale “with quite brutal methods,” Putin noted, urging both parties to “think about the civilian population” despite “all the bitterness on both sides.”

The Russian president warned against imposing a total blockade on Gaza, calling this approach to the Palestinian enclave “unacceptable.”

“More than two million people live there. Not everyone supports Hamas, by the way, not everyone, yet everyone must suffer, including women and children. Of course, hardly anyone will agree with this,” the president insisted.

Putin reiterated Russia’s stance that the conflict between Israel and Hamas could only be resolved through negotiations, as well as abiding by UN resolutions, namely, creating an independent Palestine. Moscow is ready to mediate in the conflict, taking advantage of its close ties with both the Arab nations and Israel, Putin added.

“Russia can [help] precisely because we have developed very good relations with Israel over the last, say, 15 years, and traditional relations with Palestine. Therefore, no one will suspect us of wanting to play along with someone. But, of course, only if someone needs our mediation. This is always done only based on an agreement between the parties,” he concluded.

Says Putin while wiping out civilians in Ukraine!

LMAO!!!!!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 13, 2023, 02:39:18 PM
It’s a failed culture. Other than Oil, there’s nothing of value coming out of any of these countries.

Kebabs

Sand

Snackbars from Allah

You want to risk losing these?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 13, 2023, 02:55:52 PM
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/dVBjmOLJgfxau_sVIs.lrA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNTAwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/720eeba176feed548541a1ee99d1382b)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/n34GH278ArjlG6sVE5Vthw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNTAwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/650221fef8fa8457eb87ef36a87d6154)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/MrBx9yV1jT3.JtJVVSztUg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNTAwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/ad1dd0ec3dc48bb7ae144ae7cb766bf8)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 13, 2023, 02:57:58 PM
Says Putin while wiping out civilians in Ukraine!

LMAO!!!!!
Russia has been trying to limit civilian casualties. Ukraine went after civilians in the east from 2014 onwards. I've posted photos of the victims before on GB, children with their heads blown wide open.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 13, 2023, 03:07:10 PM
Russia has been trying to limit civilian casualties. Ukraine went after civilians in the east from 2014 onwards. I've posted photos of the victims before on GB, children with their heads blown wide open.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/I4Jmrcjnr8Zfq/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bjx3ygivvb4i2kajldvidwb5ky3ef2vg9xiyy5bie&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: deadz on October 13, 2023, 03:25:59 PM
The only good muzzie is a dead muzzie.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2023, 04:25:00 PM
The only good muzzie is a dead muzzie.

This
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 13, 2023, 10:07:56 PM
Still no footage of beheaded babies

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1713026330692899324
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 13, 2023, 11:43:33 PM
Still no footage of beheaded babies

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1713026330692899324

Do you think IDF would post something like that? Hamas are cowards
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 14, 2023, 01:35:43 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftIsraelCOTOctober%2013%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20IDF%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20October%2013%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Southern%20Israel%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20October%2013%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/West%20Bank%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20October%2013%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Northern%20Israel%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20October%2013%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2023, 01:39:24 AM
Do you think IDF would post something like that? Hamas are cowards

they are are no Mexican Cartels
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 14, 2023, 03:28:08 AM
i=0ETsbRQ5P97YI6_f
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2023, 04:06:05 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/ad59db8ea63c6d99a80da4bc68cee7f6/tumblr_nab2oyYPZZ1rveog1o1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: irishdave on October 14, 2023, 04:09:13 AM
If anybody bans Matt they’re gonna have to deal with me
Ron is my favourite Jew other than my father but free speech is necessary
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: youandme on October 14, 2023, 05:02:56 AM
Still no footage of beheaded babies

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1713026330692899324

Still they’re not denying it. They’re cave dwellers Muslims. Whole world would be better off without Islam, that’s a fact.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 14, 2023, 05:46:43 AM
Do you think IDF would post something like that? Hamas are cowards

I seriously doubt it happened.

You are a chump, Coach.  You believe everything you read if it agrees with your views.

Some burned babies were found.  Likely burned in explosions.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2023, 05:54:36 AM
If anybody bans Matt they’re gonna have to deal with me
Ron is my favourite Jew other than my father but free speech is necessary

This

Matt is needed
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 14, 2023, 06:17:45 AM
This

Matt is needed
,,,,,to use up bandwidth
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rmj11 on October 14, 2023, 06:25:33 AM
Jews are gonna Jews.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: deadz on October 14, 2023, 06:36:06 AM
I seriously doubt it happened.

You are a chump, Coach.  You believe everything you read if it agrees with your views.

Some burned babies were found.  Likely burned in explosions.
Also, a babies head would not withstand a bullet and apparently a lot of babies were shot in the head hence decapatation.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on October 14, 2023, 08:27:06 AM
Catching up on all... responding to Matt's posts...

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When was Palestine’s 9-11, Ron? Was it in 2008, where 899 Palestinians were killed? Was it 2009, where 1,066 were killed? What about in 2014, where 2,329 of them were butchered? 2021, where 349 were killed? 2022, where 191 were killed? Sorry, Ron, I am struggling to place all of the six and a half thousand deaths since 2008, the vast majority of them civilian, at the hands of an evil regime which is based on the principle of discrimination.

Each of these years, pretty sure started when Hamas attacked and fired into Israel, and Israel fought back.  Fire rockets from a school, a hospital, a place where Palestinians are, you get fired back. Hamas loves killing the Palestinian people. But then again, this is 2023.  Hamas killed 1,200 Israelis, with proof that they targeted children, elderly, people at a peace music festival. With cause comes reaction. Hamas needs to be removed from Gaza, and since the leadership is in Qatar (Qatar is afraid of Iran since they dont think USA and others will defend them if attacked).

 
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expect the Palestinians to make peace with Israel when they live under exile and military occupation, with no prospect for the recognition of their basic rights. Do you really think Israel will ever accept an independent Palestinian state?

Yes, they can and will one day.  But not when you have a group like Hamas killing the Palestinian people if they want peace. Palestinians want peace, they don't care about the crazy right wing Islamic religions, they want to live like anyone else.  But when Palestinian friends say anything anywhere, they or their families will get killed. Simple as that. There is no freedom in Gaza, by Hamas. Not by Israel.  Funny, always blame Israel. Do you see Egypt, Jordan, and others want to help Hamas.  They do not want to.  They want to help the Palestinians, not Hamas.  Even Egpyt is bring their military to the Southern border of Gaza to prevent Hamas from leaving.

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So Hamas has "always said their goal is the destruction of Israel." And Israel will now "root out" the "terrorist group" from Gaza?

Yes. If Hamas has said just ONCE, they want peace, and not the complete destruction of Israel, there would of been peace a long time ago.

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The Hamas charter, irrelevant and written by a small group of men in the 1980s

To you, a racist, of course.  To others who live is the realization that this group wants to destroy and kill you, and is in power, it is very important.


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Israel has only ever sought to maintain the situation they created, which was to keep Gaza separate from the West Bank

Tell that to Fatah, the ruling party of the West Bank.  Most of them were killed and were forced to leave Gaza.  Since the first election of Hamas, no one dared to even try, or they will be killed.  Remember, Hamass is there for the destruction of Israel, not to help the Palestinian people.  What government warned their people not to leave their houses or they will get killed by Hamas. Wow.

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Only in the U.S. will you find 350 lb. fatass American Jews like yourself who have fallen victim to years of brainwashing and permabulking.

By the way, I am at 240 pounds, so suck it!  As for brainwashing, nah. I am a realist.  You are a propagandist. Take a quote from a few out of 9 million and pretend it is relevant.

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My autism basically makes it impossible for me to lie, and I despise liars. If it’s in the media, it must be true. It is remarkable how stupid you all are. If you are wondering why I have no interest speaking to anyone ever again, this is why.

You lie all the time, read one bullcrap and pretend it is true, and hide behind the facts of other sides.  Simple as that. You are a racist, have always been, and you cannot evolve as the world is changing around you.  You can only take one side of something and run with that.  I get it. Why learn when hate is the way. One day you will regret it, when you will need to atone to someone.  Over the years, I have had many people change as they get older and realize they don't know everything in our world (myself included) and become wiser. Stop reading one side and read all sides to learn. As for not wanting to speak to anyone every again, you need to take meds.  There are a lot of good people out there! All religions, all races.  Treat each person like someone with respect, not hatred against a race or religion.

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With all due respect, Hamas shouldn't have been able to pull off what I call the shitiest attack ever....shooting what I call a bunch bottle rockets and coming in on para-gliders, motorcycles, and trucks as if it was Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.   A complete and utter failure of Israeli Intellegence.   How the fuck this happenned is no longer important.

This is the NUMBER ONE question for any Israeli. WTF happened.  How did they miss this. This is truly sad.  BUT, right now is not the time to answer that, and trust me, there will be people fired, and hearings and so on on this.  Right now, there is one move, to take out Hamas' military capabilities in Gaza so no more rockets will ever be fired, and bring upon a united government in the West Bank and Gaza that truly wants the Palestinian people to prosper. 

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If Israel is going to take the Gaza Strip then I say they should take the whole field of Palestine instead of pussy footing around.  No more phone calls letting them know they are going to drop bomb

No, they need to tell the people that they are going to go in, they are going to take the tunnels, they are going to go after Hamas, whose bunker and HQ is under the Gaza Hospital and neighboring school and mosque.   Hamas is the group who are killing Palestinians in Gaza. So yes, they need to evacuate. 












 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Skeletor on October 14, 2023, 11:41:42 AM
Catching up on all... responding to Matt's posts...

This is the NUMBER ONE question for any Israeli. WTF happened.  How did they miss this. This is truly sad.  BUT, right now is not the time to answer that, and trust me, there will be people fired, and hearings and so on on this.  Right now, there is one move, to take out Hamas' military capabilities in Gaza so no more rockets will ever be fired, and bring upon a united government in the West Bank and Gaza that truly wants the Palestinian people to prosper. 


Just fired? I would imagine that most Israelis would want these people hanged or worse. If one of the most, if not the most, militarized states in the world that constantly touts its security, military and surveillance capabilities allowed this to happen under its nose and was so slow to react, we are talking about a monumental failure and a demythification of its abilities.


By the way, I am at 240 pounds, so suck it!

A svelte 240 yet still dwarfing tiny tits like bhank.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: TheGrinch on October 14, 2023, 12:39:03 PM
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 14, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
I seriously doubt it happened.

You are a chump, Coach.  You believe everything you read if it agrees with your views.

Some burned babies were found.  Likely burned in explosions.

It didn’t. The one pic of the burned baby was evidently proven to be generated by AI using a pic of a dog. Not that hamas isn’t doing gnarly shit, but there’s no need to exaggerate because it cheapens what they’re actually doing.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 14, 2023, 02:29:51 PM
Tell that to Fatah, the ruling party of the West Bank.  Most of them were killed and were forced to leave Gaza.  Since the first election of Hamas, no one dared to even try, or they will be killed.  Remember, Hamass is there for the destruction of Israel, not to help the Palestinian people.  What government warned their people not to leave their houses or they will get killed by Hamas. Wow.


Im convinced they are there funded by Israel to help Israel destroy Palestine
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 14, 2023, 08:14:54 PM
I seriously doubt it happened.

You are a chump, Coach.  You believe everything you read if it agrees with your views.

Some burned babies were found.  Likely burned in explosions.

Then call me a chump. Israel warned people to get out of Gaza, Hamas won’t let them. If Hamas won’t let their own people flee before their ground troops (and ours) and totally annihilating Gaza to end Hamas, what makes you think Hamas would wouldn’t behead babies and kill children?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 15, 2023, 12:49:45 AM
Then call me a chump. Israel warned people to get out of Gaza, Hamas won’t let them. If Hamas won’t let their own people flee before their ground troops (and ours) and totally annihilating Gaza to end Hamas, what makes you think Hamas would wouldn’t behead babies and kill children?

This

Hamas always want to get ahead
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 15, 2023, 01:09:45 AM
what is this mr fat midget ?
just another boring unrelated  post !

Tyson may have been shorter than his contemporaries and most HWs at that time, but he was NEVER a midget!

(https://scontent.fbma6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/387023110_914152220073487_279072310162560813_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=0bKJiF82_94AX9kB2ly&_nc_ht=scontent.fbma6-1.fna&oh=00_AfB6dUhIJT2RzVG3WobljudVf9q2EiNBmdMpWD3ZXo1znQ&oe=65306DB2)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 15, 2023, 01:31:07 AM
A two-state solution would be the beginning of the end for Israel.

Why?

Because Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and every terrorist enemy will flood into the West Bank with their troops and weapons and create military bases directly on the border with Israel, including missile and anti-aircraft sites.

At the moment, Israel has access to the area and can prevent this.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 15, 2023, 02:50:25 AM
A two-state solution would be the beginning of the end for Israel.

Why?

Because Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and every terrorist enemy will flood into the West Bank with their troops and weapons and create military bases directly on the border with Israel, including missile and anti-aircraft sites.

At the moment, Israel has access to the area and can prevent this.
Is it possible to provide land for the Palestinians outside of the Israel area? I agree, the way Gaza floats inside Israel is not workable. Hell, maybe they should build them a large island as Dubai did, just on a bigger scale. Israel needs to help make it happen. Jews have been arguing that they never had a homeland, hence the push to create Israel. Well, the same goes for the Palestinians. They need a state of their own.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 15, 2023, 02:53:50 AM
Then call me a chump. Israel warned people to get out of Gaza, Hamas won’t let them. If Hamas won’t let their own people flee before their ground troops (and ours) and totally annihilating Gaza to end Hamas, what makes you think Hamas would wouldn’t behead babies and kill children?
Do you realize Israel created Hamas? As "Obama" created ISIS?

This whole thing smells like a 911-type inside job. With the ultimate goal to remove Palestinians from Gaza - so Israel / Jews don't have to share it with them. At this point the world should build an island so the Palestinians can have their own state. Israel will be willing to push us all into WW3 - they are fucking nuts!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 15, 2023, 03:22:04 AM
Do you realize Israel created Hamas? As "Obama" created ISIS?

This whole thing smells like a 911-type inside job. With the ultimate goal to remove Palestinians from Gaza - so Israel / Jews don't have to share it with them. At this point the world should build an island so the Palestinians can have their own state. Israel will be willing to push us all into WW3 - they are fucking nuts!

If i am totally honest with you (and we should all strive to be 100 % honest), i wouldn't mind if both the Palestinians and the Israeli were Tsar Bombed and removed from existence so we don't have to hear anything more about the Palestine-Israeli crisis/war that has been going on for more years than i have been alive.


Good jews like Ron Avidan, OneMoreRap etc don't need Israel to thrive, they are perfect human beings residing in US
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 15, 2023, 03:34:01 AM
Catching up on all... responding to Matt's posts...
 

Ron, if I may, I will step in and quickly respond to some of these comments you have made to Matt Canning’s distasteful gimmick. Ideally, I would like to reply in a more structured, professional manner, with full citing of sources. However, it's a laborious task with this layout, I can't figure out the hyperlink tab here, and it’s also the weekend and my head is killing me, so forgive me for spewing out a wall of text.

Firstly, let's start with an important reminder: no one here, as far as I can tell, supports Hamas. What they did was disgusting and worthy of worldwide condemnation. I have lost close friends to Islamic extremism, and my principal concern is in thinking about how we may prevent a recrudescence of it in the UK. What Israel is doing will ensure further generations of terrorists, and make the world less safe for all of us. You, as Jewish American, are supporting Israel, and it is therefore important that you focus on Israel's actions. And on that point, I am sorry, but your arguments to justify the response do not survive scrutiny.

Firstly, you seem to be conveniently forgetting history, and the fact that there's a very long and brutal one documenting Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. It’s rather telling that you wrote 'take a quote from a few out of 9 million and pretend it is relevant'.

All of the quotes provided from Israeli politicians precede Hamas, and they elucidate clearly the fundamental issues at the heart of this which created the conditions for an entity like Hamas to emerge from. If you think that these are irrelevant, then your plea for people to 'stop reading one side and read all sides to learn' is as empty as the big tub of orange chicken next to you.

Secondly, I would like to point out that not every critique of the Israeli state can be dismissed as propaganda. If you listened to the words of many contemporary Jewish public intellectuals, you'd be hard-pressed to dismiss them as 'racist' or self-loathing in their condemnation of Israel as an apartheid state.

&ab_channel=ArosValar[/youtube]

There is also nothing outlandish or propagandistic about pointing out the strength of the Israel lobby. John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, two eminent US political scientists, wrote an entire book on the topic in 2007. It was expectedly controversial in that it ignited predictable cries of anti-Semitism from the usual figures, and the extent to which their thesis accurately weighed US strategic-economic interests in determining policy in the Middle East is up for debate. What isn't really debatable, however, is that certain interest groups will go to extreme lengths to ensure unyielding support for Israel.

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It is because of the lobbying that you're now under the misapprehension that Israel is the well-intentioned victim of a Palestinian zero-sum approach to this issue. Netanyahu himself recently told members of the Israeli parliament that it should 'crush' Palestinian aspirations for statehood. He is now in a far-right coalition with some of Israel’s most extreme Zionists, who openly support terrorism against the Palestinians, and who have been brazen in their provocations of violence.

"Netanyahu has never wanted a Palestinian state," said Dr. Alon Liel, a former director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry. "He has always believed that Israel could withstand any pressure on the matter, and until now he has played this card very well".

https://themedialine.org/by-region/netanyahu-israel-should-crush-palestinian-statehood-hopes/

If I may say one thing that is controversial, I do not believe that it is possible for at least a few individuals in Israel to have not known about the imminence of this most recent attack. Their intelligence network is simply too strong.

With regard to Hamas, I have no wish to defend them, I hate them, and yes, the Hamas charter, as it was first written in 1988, was terrible. It was written by a handful of infuriated men while Israel was violently attacking Gaza. Hamas has stated multiple times that it does not apply, it has been reformed since, and you can read it in full. What you were quoting IS irrelevant. As to your point regarding their intentions, may I present you with the following articles:

16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

37. Hamas believes in cooperating with all states that support the rights of the Palestinian people. It opposes intervention in the internal affairs of any country. It also refuses to be drawn into disputes and conflicts that take place among different countries. Hamas adopts the policy of opening up to different states in the world, especially the Arab and Islamic states. It endeavors to establish balanced relations on the basis of combining the requirements of the Palestinian cause and the Palestinian people’s interests on the one hand with the interests of the Ummah, its renaissance and its security on the other.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

To falsely put the blame on Hamas alone for breaking ceasefires and violating the terms of various agreements is to simply indulge in utter fantasy. Israel played a divide and rule game in Palestine for a long time, and they are partly responsible for the rise of Hamas.

Former Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s, is on record stating that he had helped fund the movement to counteract the Palestine Liberation Organization and Fatah's dominance (See: Arab and Jew: Wounded Spirits in a Promised Land. Shipler, D. 2015). Well, we know how that tactic played out with the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, among other examples.



Turning now to the conditions on the ground, you are trying to dismiss the shocking figures of Palestinians killed by Israel each year (the vast majority of them being civilian) as the result of unfortunate retaliatory fire after Hamas provocations. This is again demonstrably false, the footage is there to be viewed, and the fact of the matter is that Israel is well known for inciting violence in order to justify a heavy-handed response. The Gazans have been living under desperate, brutal conditions for decades. Do you really expect people not to protest against this treatment? In 2011, the UN documented that:

https://unispal.un.org/pdfs/OCHA_Gaza-HumSituation.pdf

The conditions have only worsened since 2011, and as stated by the UN's OCHA, The Gaza blockade is a denial of basic human rights in contravention of international law and amounts to collective punishment.

Further, our respective governments are now aiding and abetting war crimes. You are here justifying Israel's conduct, and your justification for it is based on the fact that Hamas carried out a terroristic act, so therefore Israel can carry out a much larger one in response. Terrorism is a tactic that is undeniably being used by both sides here. I denounce it entirely; you appear to be in favor of it as long as it is carried out by Israel.

We surely both agree that Israel has the right to defend itself; however, this is not an unconditional right. Israel is using the recent attacks as justification to punish an entire population, and the methods through which they are doing this are in direct violation of international law.

For example, Israel ordering over 1 million people to immediately leave their homes and move south, with no guarantee of return given, is a war crime of mass forcible transfer.

Given that it is part of a wider bombing campaign against an entire civilian population, it constitutes a crime against humanity.

Israel levelling entire residential housing blocks to the ground, wiping out generations of entire families, and using white phosphorus munitions against civilians are violations of the international humanitarian law principles of distinction and proportionality.

The population of Gaza now has no access to food, water, and electricity. Hospitals no longer function. They must now choose to be the victims of either genocide or ethnic cleansing. Note that Israel itself stated upfront that their response to the Hamas attack 'will not be clean'. In the Israeli defense minister's view, Palestinians are 'human animals' and Israel will 'act accordingly' in their response. You may continue to try and deny war crimes, but Israel won’t bother joining you.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-fighting-human-animals-defence-minister

Furthermore, what Israel is doing will have profound and lasting consequences for all of us. If people find it difficult to care about Israel's response for any other reason, they should at least care about it for this one. I live and work in the region. If I get killed by one of these dorks now, I'm going to be really pissed off.

Even if Israel completely eliminates Hamas now, we know what evil rises out of the ashes thanks to 9-11. It will not be the end of Arab resistance. Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion stated in 1948 that ‘The Arabs of the Land of Israel have only one function left to them—to run away'. They did not run away then and they are not going to simply run away now. The greatest threat to Israel has always been its own stupid, short-sighted and discriminatory actions. Sadly, it is the Israeli and Palestinian citizens who will continue to pay the biggest price.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 15, 2023, 03:53:57 AM
Ron, if I may, I will step in and quickly respond to some of these comments you have made to Matt Canning’s distasteful gimmick. Ideally, I would like to reply in a more structured, professional manner, with full citing of sources. However, it's a laborious task with this layout, I can't figure out the hyperlink tab here, and it’s also the weekend and my head is killing me, so forgive me for spewing out a wall of text.

Firstly, let's start with an important reminder: no one here, as far as I can tell, supports Hamas. What they did was disgusting and worthy of worldwide condemnation. I have lost close friends to Islamic extremism, and my principal concern is in thinking about how we may prevent a recrudescence of it in the UK. What Israel is doing will ensure further generations of terrorists, and make the world less safe for all of us. You, as Jewish American, are supporting Israel, and it is therefore important that you focus on Israel's actions. And on that point, I am sorry, but your arguments to justify the response do not survive scrutiny.

Firstly, you seem to be conveniently forgetting history, and the fact that there's a very long and brutal one documenting Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. It’s rather telling that you wrote 'take a quote from a few out of 9 million and pretend it is relevant'

All of the quotes provided from Israeli politicians precede Hamas, and they elucidate clearly the fundamental issues at the heart of this which created the conditions for an entity like Hamas to emerge from. If you think that these are irrelevant, then your plea for people to 'stop reading one side and read all sides to learn' is as empty as the big tub of orange chicken next to you (that's a joke —don't ban me. 240 lb is impressive!).

Secondly, I would like to point out that not every critique of the Israeli state can be dismissed as propaganda. If you listened to the words of many contemporary Jewish public intellectuals, you'd be hard-pressed to dismiss them as 'racist' or self-loathing in their condemnation of Israel as an apartheid state.

&ab_channel=ArosValar[/youtube]

There is also nothing outlandish or propagandistic about pointing out the strength of the Israel lobby. John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, two eminent US political scientists, wrote an entire book on the topic in 2007. It was expectedly controversial in that it ignited predictable cries of anti-Semitism from the usual figures, and the extent to which their thesis accurately weighed US strategic-economic interests in determining policy in the Middle East is up for debate. What isn't really debatable, however, is that certain interest groups will go to extreme lengths to ensure unyielding support for Israel.

[/youtube]

It is because of the lobbying that you're now under the misapprehension that Israel is the well-intentioned victim of a Palestinian zero-sum approach to this issue. Netanyahu himself recently told members of the Israeli parliament that it should 'crush' Palestinian aspirations for statehood. He is now in a far-right coalition with some of Israel’s most extreme Zionists, who openly support terrorism against the Palestinians, and who have been brazen in their provocations of violence.

"Netanyahu has never wanted a Palestinian state," said Dr. Alon Liel, a former director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry. "He has always believed that Israel could withstand any pressure on the matter, and until now he has played this card very well".

https://themedialine.org/by-region/netanyahu-israel-should-crush-palestinian-statehood-hopes/

If I may say one thing that is controversial, I do not believe that it is possible for at least a few individuals in Israel to have not known about the imminence of this most recent attack. Their intelligence network is simply too strong.

With regard to Hamas, I have no wish to defend them, I hate them, and yes, the Hamas charter, as it was first written in 1988, was terrible. It was written by a handful of infuriated men while Israel was violently attacking Gaza. Hamas has stated multiple times that it does not apply, it has been reformed since, and you can read it in full. What you were quoting IS irrelevant. As to your point regarding their intentions, may I present you with the following articles:

16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

37. Hamas believes in cooperating with all states that support the rights of the Palestinian people. It opposes intervention in the internal affairs of any country. It also refuses to be drawn into disputes and conflicts that take place among different countries. Hamas adopts the policy of opening up to different states in the world, especially the Arab and Islamic states. It endeavors to establish balanced relations on the basis of combining the requirements of the Palestinian cause and the Palestinian people’s interests on the one hand with the interests of the Ummah, its renaissance and its security on the other.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

To falsely put the blame on Hamas alone for breaking ceasefires and violating the terms of various agreements is to simply indulge in utter fantasy. Israel played a divide and rule game in Palestine for a long time, and they are partly responsible for the rise of Hamas.

Former Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s, is on record stating that he had helped fund the movement to counteract the Palestine Liberation Organization and Fatah's dominance (See: Arab and Jew: Wounded Spirits in a Promised Land. Shipler, D. 2015). Well, we know how that tactic played out with the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, among other examples.



Turning now to the conditions on the ground, you are trying to dismiss the shocking figures of Palestinians killed by Israel each year (the vast majority of them being civilian) as the result of unfortunate retaliatory fire after Hamas provocations. This is again demonstrably false, the footage is there to be viewed, and the fact of the matter is that Israel is well known for inciting violence in order to justify a heavy-handed response. The Gazans have been living under desperate, brutal conditions for decades. Do you really expect people not to protest against this treatment? In 2011, the UN documented that:

  • 54% of Gazans are food insecure and over 75% are aid recipients.
  • 35% of Gaza’s farmland and 85% of its fishing waters are totally or partially inaccessible due to Israeli military measures.
  • Over 90% of the water from the Gaza aquifer is undrinkable.
  • About one-third of the items in the essential drug list are out of stock.
https://unispal.un.org/pdfs/OCHA_Gaza-HumSituation.pdf

The conditions have only worsened since 2011, and as stated by the UN's OCHA, The Gaza blockade is a denial of basic human rights in contravention of international law and amounts to collective punishment.

Further, our respective governments are now aiding and abetting war crimes. You are here justifying Israel's conduct, and your justification for it is based on the fact that Hamas carried out a terroristic act, so therefore Israel can carry out a much larger one in response. Terrorism is a tactic that is undeniably being used by both sides here. I denounce it entirely; you appear to be in favor of it as long as it is carried out by Israel.

We surely both agree that Israel has the right to defend itself; however, this is not an unconditional right. Israel is using the recent attacks as justification to punish an entire population, and the methods through which they are doing this are in direct violation of international law.

For example, Israel ordering over 1 million people to immediately leave their homes and move south, with no guarantee of return given, is a war crime of mass forcible transfer.

Given that it is part of a wider bombing campaign against an entire civilian population, it constitutes a crime against humanity.

Israel levelling entire residential housing blocks to the ground, wiping out generations of entire families, and using white phosphorus munitions against civilians are violations of the international humanitarian law principles of distinction and proportionality.

The population of Gaza now has no access to food, water, and electricity. Hospitals no longer function. They must now choose to be the victims of either genocide or ethnic cleansing. Note that Israel itself stated upfront that their response to the Hamas attack 'will not be clean'. In the Israeli defense minister's view, Palestinians are 'human animals' and Israel will 'act accordingly' in their response. You may continue to try and deny war crimes, but Israel won’t bother joining you.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-fighting-human-animals-defence-minister

Furthermore, what Israel is doing will have profound and lasting consequences for all of us. If people find it difficult to care about Israel's response for any other reason, they should at least care about it for this one. I live and work in the region. If I get killed by one of these dorks now, I'm going to be really pissed off.

Even if Israel completely eliminates Hamas now, we know what evil rises out of the ashes thanks to 9-11. It will not be the end of Arab resistance. Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion stated in 1948 that ‘The Arabs of the Land of Israel have only one function left to them—to run away'. They did not run away then and they are not going to simply run away now. The greatest threat to Israel has always been its own stupid, short-sighted and discriminatory actions. Sadly, it is the Israeli and Palestinian citizens who will continue to pay the biggest price.

Because a two-state solution would be suicidal for Israel.

A Palestine state would not be able to control its territory and it will be heavily infiltrated and infested by Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and worse terrorist factions.

As mentioned in another post, they will set up bases and missile and anti-aircraft sites within the West Bank and the Palestinian state will become far more heavily armed with conventional weapons and have conventional armed forces.

Israel currently has access to the territory and can prevent or limit this.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 15, 2023, 06:16:17 AM

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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 15, 2023, 06:18:11 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftIsraelCOTOctober%2042%2C2023.png)

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(https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-october-14-2023)

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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 15, 2023, 06:28:08 AM
It is an unreasonable demand to expect the entire population of Gaza to relocate to its southern tip. If you look at population densities and structures there is no way it can be done. It is a way for Israel to annex the strip totally. I think it will be a successful strategy for them and they will take over that land eventually. Maybe not immediately but they will. And maybe not because they want the land itself, maybe for the offshore minerals.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: OlympiaGym on October 15, 2023, 07:10:03 AM
Israel needs to annex Gaza and then move on the West Bank. If it does it right, Palestinian resistance will be no more of an issue for future generations of Israelis than Apache, or Sioux resistance, is for Americans today. Depopulation and destruction of any natural resources the Palestinians rely upon is critical to the Israelis’ success. The leadership of the rest of the Arab world will allow this to happen as the Palestinians are an unwanted burden to them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2023, 08:21:16 AM
this is called prejudice and common among people who are semi illiterate  ( like you , mental and physical FATl tomato head  midget )

i can also say your son saw his father injecting roids ( in 50s ? ) and got disgusted and left home early.

Awwww, how cute. I have a gimmick fan. And then used “Wikipedia” as some kind of legit political source.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 15, 2023, 08:32:44 AM
Shapiro meltdown

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1712317725513490892

Hilarious part is the cartels use virtually identical tactics in their drug wars.                                                                           
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 15, 2023, 08:34:22 AM
The core of everything is a transition to green energy and sustainability. The rest is noise to keep 98% distracted.

The US is not collapsing. You are not going broke. Trannies are not going to cut off your manhood. Those stories exist for a reason but it’s not because they are true.

Are you on blow?

There's no green tech revolution, it's a ponzi scheme.

The only green tech that works is nuclear, and that ain't happening.

You're wasting your breath with delusions of technical understanding.

There's no magical storage technology nor some magical superconductor that allows you to transmit wind and solar over vast distances.

It's a get rich scheme for engineers.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 15, 2023, 08:36:30 AM
Israel needs to annex Gaza and then move on the West Bank. If it does it right, Palestinian resistance will be no more of an issue for future generations of Israelis than Apache, or Sioux resistance, is for Americans today. Depopulation and destruction of any natural resources the Palestinians rely upon is critical to the Israelis’ success. The leadership of the rest of the Arab world will allow this to happen as the Palestinians are an unwanted burden to them.


This would be the “better for the rest of the world” solution. Eventually like you said, it will die down and the rest of the Arab world will just ignore it and call in line.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 15, 2023, 08:37:23 AM
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 15, 2023, 08:38:10 AM
https://instagram.com/idf?igshid=MXJ3dHQwcWNsNm52cw==
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 15, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
How's pant-shitter handling all of this?? Is he awake?? Does he know what's even going on??

Will this make him molest his daughter again?? Showering w/ little girls??
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 15, 2023, 08:43:06 AM
It’s a failed culture. Other than Oil, there’s nothing of value coming out of any of these countries.
Yeah well what really bothers me, especially since I'm not white, is what's the long game for Europe?

Like the muzzies are gonna have to take over, if they don't they'll become a oppressed minority like the Palestinians.

There isn't gonna be a two continent solution to European Islam.

I can see Poland implementing a whites only immigration policy within 5 years.

And the thing is I could see millions of whites lining up to move to a country with a future.

And it's like who can blame them?

It's basically economically and morally justified if a country doesn't want unproductive disruptive muslims in their country.







Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 15, 2023, 08:44:20 AM
Israel needs to annex Gaza and then move on the West Bank. If it does it right, Palestinian resistance will be no more of an issue for future generations of Israelis than Apache, or Sioux resistance, is for Americans today. Depopulation and destruction of any natural resources the Palestinians rely upon is critical to the Israelis’ success. The leadership of the rest of the Arab world will allow this to happen as the Palestinians are an unwanted burden to them.

There’s a reason none of the other Arab states want these people. They’re nothing but trouble. The only people who really support them are white liberals who do so from a safe distance the same way they support inner city Dindus.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 15, 2023, 08:51:50 AM
Because a two-state solution would be suicidal for Israel.

A Palestine state would not be able to control its territory and it will be heavily infiltrated and infested by Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and worse terrorist factions.

As mentioned in another post, they will set up bases and missile and anti-aircraft sites within the West Bank and the Palestinian state will become far more heavily armed with conventional weapons and have conventional armed forces.

Israel currently has access to the territory and can prevent or limit this.

Agreed, this isn't a Israel-Palestine conflict, this is Judaism versus Islam(or just Islam versus virtually everyone including muslim women). Israel is clearly in the wrong if you just look at it as Palestine versus them. But it's not, Palestinians need to move to other Muslim countries like Egypt and Iran.

We need to do what the germans did with Nazism. All imagery/books/artifacts of Islam need to be banned, and Muslims have to know that they get deported for being fascist/islamic.

Religious freedom is a joke of an idea.



Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 15, 2023, 09:26:54 AM
Anyone rightly concerned about the overwhelming numbers of people migrating to Europe should be vehemently opposed to any further destabilization of the Middle East. Literally nothing good will come out of another regional conflict here, least of all with Iran.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 15, 2023, 09:38:41 AM
Anyone rightly concerned about the overwhelming numbers of people migrating to Europe should be vehemently opposed to any further destabilization of the Middle East. Literally nothing good will come out of another regional conflict here, least of all with Iran.


I would be good with a mass exodus of Whites from USA back to Europe. It’ll never happen but we all need to go back to our respective “home bases” and chill for a while until all this blows over. Most likely a few hundred years. ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Taffin on October 15, 2023, 10:14:12 AM
Wes owned one of the ships

I heard he loaned them The Ark
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 15, 2023, 10:28:34 AM
Much in the same way blacks, given a choice would rather live in white countries, I’d bet most Arabs given a choice would prefer to live in Israel than their own country.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 15, 2023, 01:12:43 PM
Much in the same way blacks, given a choice would rather live in white countries, I’d bet most Arabs given a choice would prefer to live in Israel than their own country.

Nah, they just want to turn other countries into the shitholes they come from
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 16, 2023, 03:31:17 AM
A two-state solution would be the beginning of the end for Israel.

Why?

Because Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and every terrorist enemy will flood into the West Bank with their troops and weapons and create military bases directly on the border with Israel, including missile and anti-aircraft sites.

At the moment, Israel has access to the area and can prevent this.


That sound very similar to what America & NATO wants to do in Ukraine.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 16, 2023, 05:28:51 AM
Nah, they just want to turn other countries into the shitholes they come from

It’s debatable whether they consciously want to do this, but that’s the invariable end result.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 16, 2023, 05:31:19 AM
I love how some of you guys are claiming your love and support for Israel.  You do know that Israel couldn’t for a fuck about you.  Israelis are all about themselves.   If the same thing happened to America they wouldn’t care one fucking bit. Wake the fuck up people.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 16, 2023, 05:42:20 AM

That sound very similar to what America & NATO wants to do in Ukraine.

The West Bank does not have a conventional army and Israel currently has full access to the Palestinian territory with their own armed forces.

Without de facto control of the territory, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and terrorist groups will fill in the power vacuum.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 16, 2023, 06:16:28 AM
I love how some of you guys are claiming your love and support for Israel.  You do know that Israel couldn’t for a fuck about you.  Israelis are all about themselves.   If the same thing happened to America they wouldn’t care one fucking bit. Wake the fuck up people.

Last week, one of the founders of Hamas called for a Jihad against the West. Look into it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 16, 2023, 06:44:42 AM
I love how some of you guys are claiming your love and support for Israel.  You do know that Israel couldn’t for a fuck about you.  Israelis are all about themselves.   If the same thing happened to America they wouldn’t care one fucking bit. Wake the fuck up people.

I can state unequivocally that I give zero fucks about the entire Middle East. The problem is that during times like this it’s impossible to get away from it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 16, 2023, 08:03:35 AM
I love how some of you guys are claiming your love and support for Israel.  You do know that Israel couldn’t for a fuck about you.  Israelis are all about themselves.   If the same thing happened to America they wouldn’t care one fucking bit. Wake the fuck up people.

I have no problem with you or your statement on this subject.  It is honest and more than understandable.  There is nothing wrong in putting your own Nation first and that is what is needed here in America. 

In my case, the few Israelis I have met in the real world love the USA.  On the other hand, Hollyweird Hebrews can fuck off and die. 

The cuckolds here (and we all know them)  that feel Hamas is their besty are stupid and deserve to have a buttwa declared on them and  be buggered to death by mooslime midgets with an M80 strapped to their weenies. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 16, 2023, 08:41:25 AM
I love how some of you guys are claiming your love and support for Israel.  You do know that Israel couldn’t for a fuck about you.  Israelis are all about themselves.   If the same thing happened to America they wouldn’t care one fucking bit. Wake the fuck up people.

Likely very true.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 16, 2023, 12:19:45 PM
Like a video game (of peace) or, err war...

i=72zfxlObziUJ1qKe
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 16, 2023, 01:09:00 PM
Like a video game (of peace) or, err war...

i=72zfxlObziUJ1qKe

Hamas don't have any airpower at all right?


Not one single Helicopter?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 16, 2023, 01:45:17 PM
Like a video game (of peace) or, err war...

i=72zfxlObziUJ1qKe

The criticise Hamas then post videos killing people indiscriminately as jerkoff material for the West

No wonder support for Palestine is growing
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 16, 2023, 02:51:37 PM
Are you on blow?

There's no green tech revolution, it's a ponzi scheme.

The only green tech that works is nuclear, and that ain't happening.

You're wasting your breath with delusions of technical understanding.

There's no magical storage technology nor some magical superconductor that allows you to transmit wind and solar over vast distances.

It's a get rich scheme for engineers.

The difference between others and myself is some topics I know more as I’m involved in it or somehow linked to allow me to see more of what is going on than people who get their updates via the media.

Green energy projects where I am are fucking massive and the level of how big is not mainstream information yet. I also know a thing or two about the coal mines which refutes what people have been told.

The delusions are those who think they will still be buying ‘stuff’ at the same rate they did pre pandemic. Energy output is to be decreased another 48.5% which will utterly crush demand and result in skyrocketing consumer prices.

We did not have an energy crisis back in 2022. We are about to have an energy crisis now…….
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 16, 2023, 03:11:29 PM
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 16, 2023, 03:43:11 PM
I love how some of you guys are claiming your love and support for Israel.  You do know that Israel couldn’t for a fuck about you.  Israelis are all about themselves.   If the same thing happened to America they wouldn’t care one fucking bit. Wake the fuck up people.

Even worse, Hamas and the Palestinians would love to rape and murder most if not all of their current supporters in the west.

It's not about that with supporters of Israel.

Many Americans support Israel because Israel has been the only true American ally in that region since 1948.

When in the 1960s Israel secretly captured a Soviet-built Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21, the most advanced Soviet fighter plane at that time, they immediately called the US to come to Israel and study the plane with them.  Eventually Israel loaned the MiG to the US, so American pilots could train with it and learn its strengths and weaknesses.

When the Palestinian terrorist group (PLO) tried to overthrow the American-friendly Kingdom of Jordan in the 1970s, the US could not get involved at the time and instead asked Israel to save Jordan.  Jordan wanted the US to help, but didn't want Israel's help because they were enemies.  Israel didn't want to help Jordan, but they did anyway because the US asked.  Israel ended up saving Jordan and Jordan became an Israel ally since then.

And these are just two of many examples how Israel has cooperated with the US for decades, and many more I'm sure we don't even know about yet.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 16, 2023, 04:02:50 PM
Plus looney libturdz love their Palenstine...   ::) ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 16, 2023, 04:09:59 PM
The difference between others and myself is some topics I know more as I’m involved in it or somehow linked to allow me to see more of what is going on than people who get their updates via the media.

Green energy projects where I am are fucking massive and the level of how big is not mainstream information yet. I also know a thing or two about the coal mines which refutes what people have been told.

The delusions are those who think they will still be buying ‘stuff’ at the same rate they did pre pandemic. Energy output is to be decreased another 48.5% which will utterly crush demand and result in skyrocketing consumer prices.

We did not have an energy crisis back in 2022. We are about to have an energy crisis now…….

Have no idea what you're pretending to get on with. Green energy is worthless outside of a handful of places.

There's no such thing as an intermittent economy an intermittent power supply isn't ever go be viable for most pla es. There's zero value to an intermittent power source. Traditional power sources cant  be turned on at the slip of a switch. And no form of industry is gonna build twice as many factories because they don't have power.

Green energy is pushed by people who profit off the economic stupidity of others.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 16, 2023, 05:05:06 PM
Have no idea what you're pretending to get on with. Green energy is worthless outside of a handful of places.

There's no such thing as an intermittent economy an intermittent power supply isn't ever go be viable for most pla es. There's zero value to an intermittent power source. Traditional power sources cant  be turned on at the slip of a switch. And no form of industry is gonna build twice as many factories because they don't have power.

Green energy is pushed by people who profit off the economic stupidity of others.

Yup ^^^^
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 16, 2023, 05:24:46 PM
Because they created Israel - lmao! How many billions of dollars are sent to Israel every year? Biden's regime is riddled with Israel first members. They literally will choose Israel over USA. The USA is a state of Israel. That's the reality.

A number of elected pols have dual US-Israel citizenship.

Chuck Schumer is one.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 16, 2023, 05:33:46 PM
When Israel was created over 700,000 Palestinians were displaced from their homeland.
This created lasting enmity which exists today.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 16, 2023, 05:38:22 PM
Plus looney libturdz love their Palenstine...   ::) ::)

Most of the world give zero fvcks about them.

Other Arabs want nothing to do them.

Yet White liberal Dipshits think the sun rises and sets on them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 16, 2023, 06:04:50 PM
I’m no fan of Iran or hezballlah but hope they join in and do big damage in Israel,Zionism is a cancer in the Middle East
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 16, 2023, 06:17:38 PM
How’s the ol’ war coming along?

DVDs?

Fucking retards.

(Them, not my Getbig brothers.)



Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 16, 2023, 06:31:57 PM
When Israel was created over 700,000 Palestinians were displaced from their homeland.
This created lasting enmity which exists today.

Think about it, let's say it happens to all people living in Texas today, all displaced for some other race (let's say Middle Eastern Mussies)

Of course the Texans would be a tad miffed
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 16, 2023, 06:45:13 PM
Think about it, let's say it happens to all people living in Texas today, all displaced for some other race (let's say Middle Eastern Mussies)

Of course the Texans would be a tad miffed

The Germans didn’t have much to say about East Prussia or any of their other lands. But they’re civilized white folks I guess.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 16, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
The Germans didn’t have much to say about East Prussia or any of their other lands. But they’re civilized white folks I guess.

True


They didn't believe that the End Goal would be 72 virgins up in the sky if you killed as many Infidels as possible
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 16, 2023, 10:18:58 PM
Have no idea what you're pretending to get on with. Green energy is worthless outside of a handful of places.

There's no such thing as an intermittent economy an intermittent power supply isn't ever go be viable for most pla es. There's zero value to an intermittent power source. Traditional power sources cant  be turned on at the slip of a switch. And no form of industry is gonna build twice as many factories because they don't have power.

Green energy is pushed by people who profit off the economic stupidity of others.

It’s always at profit in order to drive improvement.

Best of luck.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 16, 2023, 11:47:49 PM
Nah, they just want to turn other countries into the shitholes they come from

This

They are filth and needs to be purged

Mussies are even worse than the American Ghetto-Negroid
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 17, 2023, 12:18:00 AM
lol retard what made you think middle east mussies gives 2 fucks about a country filled with transgenders , crazy feminist and drug addicts , pill whores etc ?

They don’t dip shit. You just said they come here for economical reasons.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 17, 2023, 12:31:35 AM
True


They didn't believe that the End Goal would be 72 virgins up in the sky if you killed as many Infidels as possible

Arabs have a habit of losing wars that they started or backing the wrong horse, Nazi Germany, in them, losing land and then bitching endlessly about it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 17, 2023, 04:32:38 AM
This

They are filth and needs to be purged

Mussies are even worse than the American Ghetto-Negroid

No question.

Filthy Muzzies suck ass.

Islam is pure shit.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 17, 2023, 05:33:40 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftIsraelCOTOctober%2016%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20IDF%20Battle%20Map%20October%2016%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/West%20Bank%20Battle%20Map%20October%2016%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 17, 2023, 06:20:53 AM
Was listening to the Victor Davis Hansen POD. Hansen was recently in Haifa. He said it was clean, safe with no homeless, but yeah, they should listen to Progressives who turn everything they touch to shit.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 17, 2023, 08:04:58 AM
Think about it, let's say it happens to all people living in Texas today, all displaced for some other race (let's say Middle Eastern Mussies)

Of course the Texans would be a tad miffed
That would have been a valid complaint 70 years ago.

But that was then this is now.

Palestinians allied up with Egypt and all the other Arab states.

They made their bed when they allied with foreign powers.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 17, 2023, 08:13:44 AM
That would have been a valid complaint 70 years ago.

But that was then this is now.

Palestinians allied up with Egypt and all the other Arab states.

They made their bed when they allied with foreign powers.

What foreign powers.... Nobody allied with Palestinians ,nobody wants to....In fact the whole Muslim world is enemies with each other there,otherwise the 300 million of them would crush tiny Jewsrael like a bug that it is.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 17, 2023, 08:19:24 AM
What foreign powers.... Nobody allied with Palestinians ,nobody wants to....In fact the whole Muslim world is enemies with each other there,otherwise the 300 million of them would crush tiny Jewsrael like a bug that it is.
The Yom Kippur War, also known as the Ramadan War, the October War,[60] the 1973 Arab–Israeli War, or the Fourth Arab–Israeli War, was an armed conflict fought from 6 to 25 October 1973, between Israel and a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria. The majority of combat between the two sides took place in the Sinai Peninsula and the Golan Heights—both of which had been occupied by Israel in 1967—with some fighting in African Egypt and northern Israel.[61][62][page needed] Egypt's initial objective in the war was to seize a foothold on the eastern bank of the Suez Canal and subsequently leverage these gains to negotiate the return of the rest of the Israeli-occupied Sinai Peninsula.[63][64][65][66]



The fuck are you talking about?

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 17, 2023, 08:31:12 AM
The Yom Kippur War, also known as the Ramadan War, the October War,[60] the 1973 Arab–Israeli War, or the Fourth Arab–Israeli War, was an armed conflict fought from 6 to 25 October 1973, between Israel and a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria. The majority of combat between the two sides took place in the Sinai Peninsula and the Golan Heights—both of which had been occupied by Israel in 1967—with some fighting in African Egypt and northern Israel.[61][62][page needed] Egypt's initial objective in the war was to seize a foothold on the eastern bank of the Suez Canal and subsequently leverage these gains to negotiate the return of the rest of the Israeli-occupied Sinai Peninsula.[63][64][65][66]



The fuck are you talking about?

I don't see Palestinians listed in those wars,those were wars between Arab states and Israel. 

The only "foreign power" you mentioned previously on those lands is Israel,the rest are the native powers.


Fuck you,fuck Ramadan,Yom Kippur,Anwar Sadat and everyone else.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 17, 2023, 08:47:26 AM
I don't see Palestinians listed in those wars,those were wars between Arab states and Israel. 

The only "foreign power" you mentioned previously on those lands is Israel,the rest are the native powers.


Fuck you,fuck Ramadan,Yom Kippur,Anwar Sadat and everyone else.
Do a little tiny bit of research on the topic your premise is absurd.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 17, 2023, 12:24:25 PM
Looks like Israel did an airstrike on some hospitals.  That's going to have a lot of dead bodies in it
Title: Re: No Thread About Israel Being Attacked??
Post by: deadz on October 17, 2023, 12:29:07 PM
Bullshit. They’re a listed terrorists state and the timing of this $6 billion is suspicious besides being used for negotiating prisoner swaps. It’s always been the policy of the US  to not pay ransom (which is exactly what this is) for prisoners but that broke when Biden’s puppeteer, Obama dropped like $1.7 billion on a pallet of cash in the middle of the night. Level the fucking country

Funny how Israel came under attack just a week or two after they were given the $6 bil. Fucking Biden has been installed for over two years and in that time 2 full blown wars have broken out.
Youre right, Coach. Have to be brain dead to not see what’s been happening the past couple years.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 17, 2023, 01:54:26 PM
Looks like Israel did an airstrike on some hospitals.  That's going to have a lot of dead bodies in it

Honestly I'm starting to wonder if they're gonna get everyone in the same part of Gaza so they can nuke them, so they can reduce the radius of radioactive fallout.

You can't have it both ways, you want to believe the Israelis are acting like Nazis, ok so they have nothing to lose by nuking the population? Like what's the UN gonna do, if "rogue Israeli terrorist" steal a nuke and remove the population?

Israel is quite clearly tired of the middle east causing them nonsense.

If you want to believe they are Nazis, don't pretend you're gonna win this one.

Israel is clearly doing a "final push", making it clear they won't be held hostage by the same principles that crippled America in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Israel is a small country, the muzzies just made it clear that they're committed to such actions, it doesn't matter if its egypt/Iran/Lebanon/Syria/Jordan/Saudi Arabia.

The Islamic virus will be stopped, Israel will pioneer it in some way or another.

If I were a Palestinian I'd be ratting out every person I knew who had any sympathies towards Islam.

Palestinians want a better life, become Jews.






Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 17, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
I don't see Palestinians listed in those wars,those were wars between Arab states and Israel. 

The only "foreign power" you mentioned previously on those lands is Israel,the rest are the native powers.


Fuck you,fuck Ramadan,Yom Kippur,Anwar Sadat and everyone else.


Which is exactly what you said would crush “jewsrael” like the tiny bug it is. ???
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 17, 2023, 02:42:35 PM
Honestly I'm starting to wonder if they're gonna get everyone in the same part of Gaza so they can nuke them, so they can reduce the radius of radioactive fallout.

You can't have it both ways, you want to believe the Israelis are acting like Nazis, ok so they have nothing to lose by nuking the population? Like what's the UN gonna do, if "rogue Israeli terrorist" steal a nuke and remove the population?

Israel is quite clearly tired of the middle east causing them nonsense.

If you want to believe they are Nazis, don't pretend you're gonna win this one.

Israel is clearly doing a "final push", making it clear they won't be held hostage by the same principles that crippled America in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Israel is a small country, the muzzies just made it clear that they're committed to such actions, it doesn't matter if its egypt/Iran/Lebanon/Syria/Jordan/Saudi Arabia.

The Islamic virus will be stopped, Israel will pioneer it in some way or another.

If I were a Palestinian I'd be ratting out every person I knew who had any sympathies towards Islam.

Palestinians want a better life, become Jews.


You make a good point about the Nuke
What would NATO do if Israel/ Russia used a Nuke ?
Not that I'm in any way wanting them to , only it is an interesting point.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 17, 2023, 02:46:39 PM

You make a good point about the Nuke
What would NATO do if Israel/ Russia used a Nuke ?
Not that I'm in any way wanting them to , only it is an interesting point.

This total "gang up" behind Israel is angering the rest of the Muslim world, the Ayattolha in Iran is making noises about it at the moment

If we are not careful all the terrorists refugee sleepers all over the world will get the signal and everyones fucked.

A holy war between Christians and Muslims
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 17, 2023, 02:51:00 PM

You make a good point about the Nuke
What would NATO do if Israel/ Russia used a Nuke ?
Not that I'm in any way wanting them to , only it is an interesting point.

Russia is a completely different story they have enough to end the world.

Israel only has a few. And they have to earmark a few for Mecca/Tehran/Cairo

If "Israeli terrorist" stole a bomb, the UN would demand anyone who allowed such a security failure to occur, to lose their jobs.

That'd be it, the UN made it clear terrorists can do whatever they want.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 17, 2023, 02:52:50 PM
Russia is a completely different story they have enough to end the world.

Israel only has a few. And they have to earmark a few for Mecca/Tehran/Cairo

If "Israeli terrorist" stole a bomb, the UN would demand anyone who allowed such a security failure to occur, to lose their jobs but retain a full pension and an Island in the Sechelles.

That'd be it, the UN made it clear terrorists can do whatever they want.

fixed
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 17, 2023, 06:27:33 PM
Looks like Israel did an airstrike on some hospitals.  That's going to have a lot of dead bodies in it

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyhCCNitlVm/?igshid=MWJiZWgyNGVpczVvaA==
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 18, 2023, 12:47:18 AM
off course dip shit  i said they come purely for economic reasons
 just like they go to other countries.... but unless there is economic reason who wants to go and live in a country of cheating wives ( whores ) , pill addicts , and transgender homosexual filled country combined with  shooting happening every few months / weeks . get it in your head dipshit not everyone wants to go to such country .

Mussie detected

They sure come out of the woodwork now with Israel pounding Hamas and Palestine
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 18, 2023, 05:27:21 AM
lol dip shit what about America  running away from afghanistan and Vietnam  ? in afganistan they even left arms they were in such hurry to run away   :D
 
here is the list of war usa lost ,  dip shit .

Korean War
Bay of Pigs Invasion
Vietnam War
afghanistan war
Formosa Expedition
Red Cloud's War
Powder River Indian War
Russian Civil War
War of 1812
Gulf War,

I’d say we won the Gulf War but that wasn’t much of a contest.  Otherwise yes, the US hasn’t really won a war since WWII.

Afghanistan, aka “The Graveyard of Empires”, fended off the British, the Soviets, and the Americans.  And the ensuing cost of the military engagement played a major role in their ensuing collapses.  I wouldn’t be so quick to underestimate them or their ability to defend themselves.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2023, 05:29:13 AM
I’d say we won the Gulf War but that wasn’t much of a contest.  Otherwise yes, the US hasn’t really won a war since WWII.

Afghanistan, aka “The Graveyard of Empires”, fended off the British, the Soviets, and the Americans.  And the ensuing cost of the military engagement played a major role in their ensuing collapses.  I wouldn’t be so quick to underestimate them or their ability to defend themselves.

Korea was a draw.

The South was saved, would consider that a victory.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2023, 05:33:56 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Southern%20Israel%20Battle%20Map%20October%2017%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 18, 2023, 06:37:51 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyhCCNitlVm/?igshid=MWJiZWgyNGVpczVvaA==


It really just looks like two rockets being launched out and nowhere close to this hospital.  Its possible that those rockets did fall and blow up the hospital but the problem is that those Qassam Rockets don't really pack any punch as they are just improvised ordinance    An airstrike would not even be seen on camera at night as it would just be moving too fast.   


Who knows who's lying but either way, Israel just needs to finish it.   They were talking about invading and giving 24 hours to leave and they are just stalling.  If you're going to invade, then fucking go invade
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 18, 2023, 06:41:30 AM
Israel better invade Palestine and finish it quicker than Russia did on Ukraine!!!

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 18, 2023, 07:27:15 AM
lol dip shit what about America  running away from afghanistan and Vietnam  ? in afganistan they even left arms they were in such hurry to run away   :D
 
here is the list of war usa lost ,  dip shit .

Korean War
Bay of Pigs Invasion
Vietnam War
afghanistan war
Formosa Expedition
Red Cloud's War
Powder River Indian War
Russian Civil War
War of 1812
Gulf War,


In Afghanistan and Iraq it's because America had to pretend to be the good guys.

Israel doesn't need to give a shit about that, Hiroshima and Nagasaki proved how you win an actual war.

Only in Islam would a rich kid like Bin Laden choose living in a cave over living it up just to kill innocent people.

Islam is on par with scumbag Nazis.

I mean seriously what would you rather neo-nazis neighbors or fellas forcing their wives to wear hijabs.

Neo-Nazis are trash but they don't seem to suffer from the fanatical motivations of Muslims.


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 18, 2023, 07:34:09 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyhCCNitlVm/?igshid=MWJiZWgyNGVpczVvaA==

LOL, you would think someone who hates Biden as much as you do. Would use their brain lol.

Boomerang rockets, right? Lol

You know they deleted the posts on their Twitter account.

Stick to posting gas prices.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 18, 2023, 07:44:29 AM
LOL, you would think someone who hates Biden as much as you do. Would use their brain lol.

Boomerang rockets, right? Lol

You know they deleted the posts on their Twitter account.

Stick to posting gas prices.


yea, I doubt that a rocket would fly right back at a hospital...not to mention that they are literally bottle rocket with very low grade TNT. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 18, 2023, 07:51:34 AM

It really just looks like two rockets being launched out and nowhere close to this hospital.  Its possible that those rockets did fall and blow up the hospital but the problem is that those Qassam Rockets don't really pack any punch as they are just improvised ordinance    An airstrike would not even be seen on camera at night as it would just be moving too fast.   


Who knows who's lying but either way, Israel just needs to finish it.   They were talking about invading and giving 24 hours to leave and they are just stalling.  If you're going to invade, then fucking go invade


Clicking on the link, seems to be some back and forth of that being an old video but who knows with all the finger pointing and the quickness in which information/disinformation gets spread. With hamas track record of using human shields, I wouldn’t put it past them to have stored munitions in the hospital and when it got struck with a bottle rocket, it went up like a fireworks factory.


I’ll agree with you on the 24 hour ultimatum. It’s been days, and now they seem like they’re bluffing. Not that I want an invasion, but the lack of dealing with this situation with an iron fist is why it will continue forever. Rip the band aid off and get it done and in 25 years the next generation will be less enthralled with all of this middle eastern mess. Nobody is crying for the Poles and Russians to giveback German territory.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 18, 2023, 07:58:29 AM
Israel better invade Palestine and finish it quicker than Russia did on Ukraine!!!

The refugees will be sent to Sweden and other European countries and the same Israeli and other Jewish groups that run NGOs which facilitate military age males of Middle Eastern and African origin flooding into Europe will suddenly shift on a dime and show concern for the same Muslims they are currently murdering.

And, when Europeans are minorities in all their own countries, the people that are bombing Palestinians will villainize native Europeans and the Europeans will get the same treatment as the Palestinians.

The media's been villainizing people of European descent full blast and, the moment the blasters have an issue, the people of European descent side with the people that hate them like no other group, they hate Whites WAY more so than Muslims do. They're the ones flooding Muslims into your countries. That's like someone being against the hitman that killed their family but fawning over and cheering on the guy that hired the hitman in the first place.

Nick Fuentes is 25 and understands the situation way more than any gentile commentator that is being funded by Zionists is allowed to:

Watch from 24:00 on(they have a double-speed button) and gentiles will have at least some concept of what dupes they are for supporting the very group that hates and wants to destroy them the most. They stop attacking you when they want something, you come running like puppies to support them, and it's business as usual after they drain you of your money and have you die in THEIR disputes.

VIDEO: https://cozy.tv/nick/replays/2023-10-18
 (https://cozy.tv/nick/replays/2023-10-18)


Below: Rabbis fantasizing about the destruction of all European countries. And that is a microscopic particle on the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of videos like this and even worse. They do not like you and never have. Not all the individuals hate but rather their organized power structure hates Europeans(actually anyone that is not in their religion). When Jewish supremacists say Ishmael, they're talking about Muslim/Arabs. When they say Amalek, Esau, or Edom they're usually talking about Europeans.

Why are gentiles such saps for people that hate them like no other group. How do some people manage to not fall for vaccine scams, lockdown scams, BLM scams, ect and then fall for the biggest, most existential threat there is. I'm not suggesting hating or wishing harm to any group but for people to understand who is undermining them in a very dangerous way, like no other people are, not even Muslims.

Video: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688)

^ The people in the video directly above are dead serious, gravely serious. And they're not harmless, fringe hillbillies blowing off steam, they are very educated, organized, and funded bigots on a level that most do not even want to entertain considering.

How is it that when the monstrous, ill-willed rabbi below, who is in the rabbi compilation above and who looks every bit Muslim as any Muslim terrorist, joyfully says he wants to exterminate all Europeans, the response is, "He gets a pass", "He's do cute, like Larry David", "Don't you know that's Jerry Seinfeld, leave him alone!". Other than staring at a box, programmed by people that hate them, for 4 hours a day, how can Europeans and people of European descent be so brainwashed....

(https://i.postimg.cc/HxSw1QCF/hdghgdhgd.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 18, 2023, 08:03:25 AM
O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them many men and women. And fear Allah, through whom you ask one another, and the wombs. Indeed Allah is ever, over you, an Observer.

  And give to the orphans their properties and do not substitute the defective [of your own] for the good [of theirs]. And do not consume their properties into your own. Indeed, that is ever a great sin.


And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

And give the women [upon marriage] their [bridal] gifts graciously. But if they give up willingly to you anything of it, then take it in satisfaction and ease.

And do not give the weak-minded your property, which Allah has made a means of sustenance for you, but provide for them with it and clothe them and speak to them words of appropriate kindness.

And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgement, release their property to them. And do not consume it excessively and quickly, [anticipating] that they will grow up. And whoever, [when acting as guardian], is self-sufficient should refrain [from taking a fee]; and whoever is poor - let him take according to what is acceptable. Then when you release their property to them, bring witnesses upon them. And sufficient is Allah as Accountant.


Random book of peace quote of the day, again a random sample, I didn't pick this page, I just opened a random book.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2023, 09:27:18 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyiXyDrOSGw/?igshid=MXAwdTZncjBpZGlkeQ==
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 18, 2023, 09:36:12 AM
The refugees will be sent to Sweden and other European countries and the same Israeli and other Jewish groups that run NGOs which facilitate military age males flooding into Europe will suddenly shift on a dime and show concern for the same Muslims they are currently murdering.

And, when Europeans are minorities in all their own countries, the people that are bombing Palestinians will villainize native Europeans and the Europeans will get the same treatment.

The media's been villainizing people of European descent full blast and, the moment the blasters have an issue, the people of European descent side with the people that hate them like no other group, they hate Whites WAY more so than Muslims do. They're the ones flooding Muslims into your countries. That's like someone being against the hitman that killed their family but fawning over and cheering on the guy that hired the hitman in the first place.

Nick Fuentes is 25 and understands the situation way more than any gentile commentator that is being funded by Zionists is allowed to:

Watch from 18:00 on(they have a double-speed button) and gentiles will have at least some concept of what dupes they are for supporting the very group that hates and wants to destroy them the most. They stop attacking you when they want something, you come running like puppies to support them, and it's business as usual after they drain you of your money and have you die in THEIR disputes.

VIDEO: https://cozy.tv/nick/replays/2023-10-18
 (https://cozy.tv/nick/replays/2023-10-18)


Below: Rabbis fantasizing about the destruction of all European countries. And that is a microscopic particle on the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of videos like this and even worse. They do not like you and never have. Not all the individuals hate but rather their organized power structure hates Europeans(actually anyone that is not in their religion). When Jewish supremacists say Ishmael, they're talking about Muslim/Arabs. When they say Amalek, Esau, or Edom they're usually talking about Europeans.

Why are gentiles such saps for people that hate them like no other group. How do some people manage to not fall for vaccine scams, lockdown scams, BLM scams, ect and then fall for the biggest, most existential threat there is. I'm not suggesting hating or wishing harm to any group but for people to understand who is undermining them in a very dangerous way, like no other people are, not even Muslims.

Video: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688)

^ The people in the video directly above are dead serious, gravely serious. And they're not harmless, fringe hillbillies blowing off steam, they are very educated, organized, and funded bigots on a level that most do not even want to entertain considering.

How is it that when the monstrous, ill-willed rabbi below, who is in the rabbi compilation above and who looks every bit Muslim as any Muslim terrorist, joyfully says he wants to exterminate all Europeans, the response is, "He gets a pass", "He's do cute, like Larry David", "Don't you know that's Jerry Seinfeld, leave him alone!". Other than staring at a box, programmed by people that hate them, for 4 hours a day, how can Europeans and people of European descent be so brainwashed....

(https://i.postimg.cc/HxSw1QCF/hdghgdhgd.jpg)

Thanks for the links Megs!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 18, 2023, 09:40:55 AM
The refugees will be sent to Sweden and other European countries and the same Israeli and other Jewish groups that run NGOs which facilitate military age males flooding into Europe will suddenly shift on a dime and show concern for the same Muslims they are currently murdering.

And, when Europeans are minorities in all their own countries, the people that are bombing Palestinians will villainize native Europeans and the Europeans will get the same treatment.

The media's been villainizing people of European descent full blast and, the moment the blasters have an issue, the people of European descent side with the people that hate them like no other group, they hate Whites WAY more so than Muslims do. They're the ones flooding Muslims into your countries. That's like someone being against the hitman that killed their family but fawning over and cheering on the guy that hired the hitman in the first place.

Nick Fuentes is 25 and understands the situation way more than any gentile commentator that is being funded by Zionists is allowed to:

Watch from 18:00 on(they have a double-speed button) and gentiles will have at least some concept of what dupes they are for supporting the very group that hates and wants to destroy them the most. They stop attacking you when they want something, you come running like puppies to support them, and it's business as usual after they drain you of your money and have you die in THEIR disputes.

VIDEO: https://cozy.tv/nick/replays/2023-10-18
 (https://cozy.tv/nick/replays/2023-10-18)


Below: Rabbis fantasizing about the destruction of all European countries. And that is a microscopic particle on the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of videos like this and even worse. They do not like you and never have. Not all the individuals hate but rather their organized power structure hates Europeans(actually anyone that is not in their religion). When Jewish supremacists say Ishmael, they're talking about Muslim/Arabs. When they say Amalek, Esau, or Edom they're usually talking about Europeans.

Why are gentiles such saps for people that hate them like no other group. How do some people manage to not fall for vaccine scams, lockdown scams, BLM scams, ect and then fall for the biggest, most existential threat there is. I'm not suggesting hating or wishing harm to any group but for people to understand who is undermining them in a very dangerous way, like no other people are, not even Muslims.

Video: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1624214859218034688)

^ The people in the video directly above are dead serious, gravely serious. And they're not harmless, fringe hillbillies blowing off steam, they are very educated, organized, and funded bigots on a level that most do not even want to entertain considering.

How is it that when the monstrous, ill-willed rabbi below, who is in the rabbi compilation above and who looks every bit Muslim as any Muslim terrorist, joyfully says he wants to exterminate all Europeans, the response is, "He gets a pass", "He's do cute, like Larry David", "Don't you know that's Jerry Seinfeld, leave him alone!". Other than staring at a box, programmed by people that hate them, for 4 hours a day, how can Europeans and people of European descent be so brainwashed....

(https://i.postimg.cc/HxSw1QCF/hdghgdhgd.jpg)
Videos like this will never be shown on cable news.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2023, 09:48:47 AM

It really just looks like two rockets being launched out and nowhere close to this hospital.  Its possible that those rockets did fall and blow up the hospital but the problem is that those Qassam Rockets don't really pack any punch as they are just improvised ordinance    An airstrike would not even be seen on camera at night as it would just be moving too fast.   


Who knows who's lying but either way, Israel just needs to finish it.   They were talking about invading and giving 24 hours to leave and they are just stalling.  If you're going to invade, then fucking go invade

there was phone footage of the explosion and you clearly hear a high speed incoming missile just before the blast
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2023, 10:25:07 AM
this guy is great
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 18, 2023, 11:12:05 AM
this guy is great


This guy was great.. funny as hell too.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 18, 2023, 11:17:12 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyiXyDrOSGw/?igshid=MXAwdTZncjBpZGlkeQ==

its the same song and dance with them.

Israel does something immediately denies having anything to do with it, says it has solid evidence that Palestinians.

2022 when they killed the journalist. We didn't do it... oh wait maybe we did.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2023, 11:27:21 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 18, 2023, 11:32:54 AM
its the same song and dance with them.

Israel does something immediately denies having anything to do with it, says it has solid evidence that Palestinians.

2022 when they killed the journalist. We didn't do it... oh wait maybe we did.

Still waiting for the parents of the '40 Israeli babies that were beheaded' to come forward.

But, as soon as Jewish supremacists write about an event, it becomes as real as they say it is.

If this metastasizes, there will be Kfar Aza BEHEADING Massacre Memorials on every street in the US and European countries will be talked into imprisoning anyone that doesn't accept the official narrative.

They wrote about it so it must true.   ::)

(https://i.postimg.cc/25v0tgWq/F8-Pbl-Jza4-AAXb-n-1.jpg)


The Israeli government already walked this back but Ben Shapiro fans insist it's true.


Complete with footnotes:   

(https://i.postimg.cc/fR1HBMVn/F8-Pbpf3a-AAA2-Zs-D-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2023, 11:37:44 AM
its the same song and dance with them.

Israel does something immediately denies having anything to do with it, says it has solid evidence that Palestinians.

2022 when they killed the journalist. We didn't do it... oh wait maybe we did.

This particular war started with an unprovoked attack on kids at a music festival by Hamas. Innocent babies, children, old people and disabled were killed or kidnapped and brought to Gaza. Israel has a right to respond. They’ve given time for innocents to get out. Hamas uses children and neighborhoods to hide in as human shields besides their underground bunkers. They are cowards. Hamas should be eliminated, wiped off the face of this planet and so far Israel isn’t fucking around. If possible get the innocent out and level deep.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Skeletor on October 18, 2023, 11:39:32 AM
its the same song and dance with them.

Israel does something immediately denies having anything to do with it, says it has solid evidence that Palestinians.

2022 when they killed the journalist. We didn't do it... oh wait maybe we did.

Yep, (un)surprisingly the reactions from the US were very mild.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Shireen_Abu_Akleh.jpg/1920px-Shireen_Abu_Akleh.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 18, 2023, 11:44:14 AM
This particular war started with an unprovoked attack on kids at a music festival by Hamas. Innocent babies, children, old people and disabled were killed or kidnapped and brought to Gaza. Israel has a right to respond. They’ve given time for innocents to get out. Hamas uses children and neighborhoods to hide in as human shields besides their underground bunkers. They are cowards. Hamas should be eliminated, wiped off the face of this planet and so far Israel isn’t fucking around. If possible get the innocent out and level deep.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyeFlKjOIxz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

 makes you think
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 18, 2023, 12:39:23 PM
there was phone footage of the explosion and you clearly hear a high speed incoming missile just before the blast

I’ve seen that clip and thought holy hell that’s some proper speed!

I don’t buy blowing up yourself as a winning strategy.

What I notice in this war is how 2 sided the media is. We have division among people yet again which is yet another playbook move for us to be arguing with each other.

when was any media two sided in Russia/Ukraine when it broke out?
When was any media two sided in Afghanistan when it broke out?
When was any media two sided in Iraq when it broke out?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2023, 12:45:49 PM
I’ve seen that clip and thought holy hell that’s some proper speed!

I don’t buy blowing up yourself as a winning strategy.

What I notice in this war is how 2 sided the media is. We have division among people yet again which is yet another playbook move for us to be arguing with each other.

when was any media two sided in Russia/Ukraine when it broke out?
When was any media two sided in Afghanistan when it broke out?
When was any media two sided in Iraq when it broke out?
a reporter was saying that Israel wouldnt bomb a hospital prior to Joe Bidens visit because all they would get is negaive worldwide condemnation

Surely its the perfect time to bomb a hospital because everyone would think exactly that, they would never do it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 18, 2023, 01:14:04 PM
a reporter was saying that Israel wouldnt bomb a hospital prior to Joe Bidens visit because all they would get is negaive worldwide condemnation

Surely its the perfect time to bomb a hospital because everyone would think exactly that, they would never do it.

Agree.

I think it’s Hollywood Western movie thinking that the Palestinians bombed their own hospital to blame the opposition but we are all so savvy and knew they would do this. It’s not a tv series.

Using that logic we would effectively have Palestine bombing the shit out of themselves and Israel bombing the shit out of themselves as both have a civil war as we are so cunning to know they’d bomb themselves in order to win.

I don’t like that way of thinking as people pick and choose which attacks are real and which are fake off the back of an influencing media designed to create division.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 18, 2023, 01:18:45 PM
Agree.

I think it’s Hollywood Western movie thinking that the Palestinians bombed their own hospital to blame the opposition but we are all so savvy and knew they would do this. It’s not a tv series.

Using that logic we would effectively have Palestine bombing the shit out of themselves and Israel bombing the shit out of themselves as both have a civil war as we are so cunning to know they’d bomb themselves in order to win.

I don’t like that way of thinking as people pick and choose which attacks are real and which are fake off the back of an influencing media designed to create division.

watch this if you have 1 min

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyeFlKjOIxz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 18, 2023, 01:31:07 PM
I’m seeing flyers on lampposts with pictures of Israelis who have allegedly been kidnapped by Hamas. Obviously this is being done to garner sympathy and support but it’s pretty ridiculous, as if Hamas kidnapped these people and flew them from the Middle East to New York City where they have them stashed.😂
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Skeletor on October 18, 2023, 01:38:22 PM
I’m seeing flyers on lampposts with pictures of Israelis who have allegedly been kidnapped by Hamas. Obviously this is being done to garner sympathy and support but it’s pretty ridiculous, as if Hamas kidnapped these people and flew them from the Middle East to New York City where they have them stashed.😂

Psychological operation.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 18, 2023, 03:22:28 PM
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 18, 2023, 03:27:48 PM

he would say that wouldnt he?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 18, 2023, 03:30:31 PM


Palestinians will turn Jerusalem into Chicongo East.  FTN.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: BigRo on October 18, 2023, 03:58:47 PM
A Hamass rocket blew apart in transit to Israel and landed on the hospital.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 18, 2023, 04:07:43 PM
Still waiting for the parents of the '40 Israeli babies that were beheaded' to come forward.

But, as soon as Jewish supremacists write about an event, it becomes as real as they say it is.

If this metastasizes, there will be Kfar Aza BEHEADING Massacre Memorials on every street in the US and European countries will be talked into imprisoning anyone that doesn't accept the official narrative.

They wrote about it so it must true.   ::)

(https://i.postimg.cc/25v0tgWq/F8-Pbl-Jza4-AAXb-n-1.jpg)


The Israeli government already walked this back but Ben Shapiro fans insist it's true.


Complete with footnotes:   

(https://i.postimg.cc/fR1HBMVn/F8-Pbpf3a-AAA2-Zs-D-1.jpg)


Even that poor Israeli tattoo girl that was legbroken,murdered and spat on by Fortress is alive and well.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 18, 2023, 04:40:54 PM
watch this if you have 1 min

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyeFlKjOIxz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D

The only thing I follow on any of this is I had November 2023 as event timing in accordance to my inflationary model. All I am watching for is to see if this clusterfuck becomes large enough to trigger energy sanction the like we have never experienced.

If it does, it will be strong evidence this ‘event’ was planned many many years ago.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 18, 2023, 04:42:15 PM
Hamas terrorists


https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=RTUdLxQl9KEs-XSz&v=wAFDI63yvNQ&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 18, 2023, 05:12:36 PM
All here that feel Hamas and Palestinians are just wonderful peace loving folk that were displaced by Israel's return should do a "United Nations ReachAround" on themselves and bend over to get assfucked by these two branches of "Harenae Negrones".

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: youandme on October 18, 2023, 05:28:09 PM
A Hamass rocket blew apart in transit to Israel and landed on the hospital.

Seems like a pretty simple explanation. They’re literally homemade rockets.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 18, 2023, 05:31:19 PM
The only thing I follow on any of this is I had November 2023 as event timing in accordance to my inflationary model. All I am watching for is to see if this clusterfuck becomes large enough to trigger energy sanction the like we have never experienced.

If it does, it will be strong evidence this ‘event’ was planned many many years ago.

In October 1973, the members of the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC), led by King Faisal of Saudi Arabia, proclaimed an oil embargo targeted at nations that had supported Israel during the Yom Kippur War.[2] The initial nations targeted were Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the United States, though the embargo also later extended to Portugal, Rhodesia and South Africa. By the end of the embargo in March 1974,[3] the price of oil had risen nearly 300%, from US$3 per barrel ($19/m3) to nearly $12 per barrel ($75/m3) globally; US prices were significantly higher. The embargo caused an oil crisis, or "shock", with many short- and long-term effects on global politics and the global economy.[4] It was later called the "first oil shock", followed by the 1979 oil crisis, termed the "second oil shock".

Those who don't remember the past (are too fucking lazy to open a fucking wikipedia article) are condemned to repeat it.

All jokes aside, I'm quite certain this was all a deliberate attack. The Saudis/Russians/Irainians are all on the same side with this.

Oil embargo Europe/the west, force their submission and rewrite the book on how the world is run.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 18, 2023, 05:45:11 PM
A Hamass rocket blew apart in transit to Israel and landed on the hospital.

cool story, a israeli official already admitted they bombed it then deleted his comment.

You think zionists care about palestinians, israelis slaughtered there own citizens as they where held hostage by hamas, they killed all the hamas fighetrs and most of the israeli hostages.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 18, 2023, 05:50:31 PM
cool story, a israeli official already admitted they bombed it then deleted his comment.

You think zionists care about palestinians, israelis slaughtered there own citizens as they where held hostage by hamas, they killed all the hamas fighetrs and most of the israeli hostages.

In other words you support Hamas
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on October 18, 2023, 06:13:31 PM
cool story, a israeli official already admitted they bombed it then deleted his comment.

You think zionists care about palestinians, israelis slaughtered there own citizens as they where held hostage by hamas, they killed all the hamas fighetrs and most of the israeli hostages.

Stingray just flexed on BigRo.  Damn bro. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 18, 2023, 07:29:41 PM
A Hamass rocket blew apart in transit to Israel and landed on the hospital.
You're a bigger moron than I thought. How much did the missile weigh? If it blew apart in transit how the hell is it going to cause this kind of destruction?! That was a direct hit. Nothing blew apart in transit! Are you kidding me?!

And some are claiming Hamas blew up the hospital. That's no different than claiming Israel was responsible for the initial attack, or allowed it to happen. After all, they were warned about an attack by Egypt days or weeks before it happened. There's also been rumors that Israel created Hamas.

The bottom line is you can't believe anything anymore. The west is an "Empire of Lies" and everything they claim could very well be a fucking lie!

(https://wpcdn.us-midwest-1.vip.tn-cloud.net/www.fox21online.com/content/uploads/2023/10/s/y/hospital-blew-up.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: BigRo on October 18, 2023, 08:00:31 PM
You're a bigger moron than I thought. How much did the missile weigh? If it blew apart in transit how the hell is it going to cause this kind of destruction?! That was a direct hit. Nothing blew apart in transit! Are you kidding me?!

And some are claiming Hamas blew up the hospital. That's no different than claiming Israel was responsible for the initial attack, or allowed it to happen. After all, they were warned about an attack by Egypt days or weeks before it happened. There's also been rumors that Israel created Hamas.

The bottom line is you can't believe anything anymore. The west is an "Empire of Lies" and everything they claim could very well be a fucking lie!

(https://wpcdn.us-midwest-1.vip.tn-cloud.net/www.fox21online.com/content/uploads/2023/10/s/y/hospital-blew-up.png)

Experts have already verified what I said, amazing how invested with outrage you are yet care nothing for those civilians getting killed by missiles in Ukraine. Israel have slaughtered more than enough innocents I was not taking sides moron.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 18, 2023, 09:24:57 PM
Apparently it didn't hit no Hospital but a parking lot.

LOL " 500" death... Nowhere to be found ..

The Hospital was never hit but instead a HAMAS failed rocket landed on the parkinglot. "Sorry mate cant park here"..

HAMAS jumped on it for propaganda and the World mass media believed them.
As usual it's a lie. They said 500 people had been killed 34 minutes after the explosion happened. How would you find/count that many bodies in half an hour?!
Did they search the cars for the bodies? :D

A failed outgoing rocket landed in the car park, it's rocket fuel set fire to the cars. Hopefully the media wankers will hold off for a day in the future rather than scrambling to get the exclusive 'scoop'.

(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aDYLypO_700bwp.webp)(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4o8vMy_700bwp.webp)

Turns out it was a lie that Hospital in Gaza was hit and 500+ people died. Instead it was carpark.

Everything is Propaganda / Pooper Ganosch these days, don't trust Mainstream Media at all.


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 18, 2023, 11:11:20 PM
Cool story kwon


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2023, 11:56:32 PM
Cool story kwon

Yeah, that was proven wrong in more ways than one
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 19, 2023, 01:02:12 AM
Straight up genocide of noncombatant civilians. Nothing justifies that.

You don't burn down a whole apartment building because there's a murderer in there somewhere. If they put the right heads on pikes nobody could complain but mass murder of innocents is not self defense.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 19, 2023, 01:52:53 AM
I flew yesterday and I'm currently very close to Israel. There are huge billboards erected in solidarity for the country, which is fine—ordinary citizens there have suffered greatly. What really grates on me, though, is the unforgivable cowardice of many of our leaders in refusing to condemn the response that Israel has implemented and the clear intentions behind it. I'll likely be in Jordan soon and it should be interesting to see what the sentiments are there.

I'm clinging to a charitable view of most Getbiggers, in that they're too busy getting absolutely massive in the gym and shagging 10/10 Playboy models to worry about trivialities such as another potential regional conflict that their own soldiers will die in, but what events like this reveal is that some people really should be forcibly branded on their forehead with an iron that reads 'I'm a fucking moron'.

If someone were to say that they're essentially nihilistic, everyone can fuck off and die, life is a war against all and we should do away with every law and norm governing conflict, well, fine. It’s a bit like when I speak to the devoutly religious who oppose abortion under every single circumstance. I completely disagree with their premise but I can at least tell that they're following the correct logic of it.

Some people, including a few here, just say things because they think it sounds 'cool', which is really quite hilarious given the average age of everyone. What they are really saying is:

The things that most people here seem to rail against, e.g. huge numbers of people seeking asylum in Europe, soldiers dying needlessly, increase of terrorism on home soil, etc., are what will be the results of this escalating. 

The president of Israel literally said at a press conference last week that they are at war with an entire nation, not just Hamas. Israel has already bombed civilian convoys along ‘safe’ evacuation routes. Israeli settlers have been gunning down Palestinians in their own homes. Entire residential buildings have been destroyed. Power has been cut off to hospitals, and Israel already has a history of targeting them and then denying it, or claiming they were targeting militants.

It is largely irrelevant now if this particular hospital was hit by the IDF or a stray missile from 'the other team'. Israel is carrying out an illegal, genocidal campaign against a population. Anyone with a spine should be able to say that.

As an aside, there’s a good podcast (The Rest Is Politics) released on Tuesday, with former Conservative MP Rory Stewart, journalist Alastair Campbell, and the Palestinian ambassador to the UK Husam Zomlot. Worth a listen to get some more context.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 19, 2023, 01:54:36 AM
Straight up genocide of noncombatant civilians. Nothing justifies that.

You don't burn down a whole apartment building because there's a murderer in there somewhere. If they put the right heads on pikes nobody could complain but mass murder of innocents is not self defense.

Hiroshima, Nagasaki?
Dresden?

All wars deliberatly target civilians
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 19, 2023, 02:30:33 AM
Hiroshima, Nagasaki?
Dresden?

All wars deliberatly target civilians

There must be nothing wrong with slaughtering innocent people if it happened before.

If this all goes tits up and you've got jihadis on buses again be sure to let everyone know it's not actually bad because Dresden. That'll go over just fine.

And it could go tits up. Israel needs to adopt a campaign of precision killing immediately imo. They can justify targeted brutality.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: affeman on October 19, 2023, 04:33:08 AM
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 19, 2023, 04:47:52 AM
its just a sad complicated matter

german and british are responsible for this mess...what was the need to kill so many jews and install permanent paranoia in them and then  british helped them gather in Palestine  which was not their land . 

until if some land is permanently given back to Palestine (fixed) this matter wont resolve but israel wont give they are fighting for survival so they need to be aggressive and brutal

From 2015 through 2022, the UN General Assembly has adopted 140 resolutions on Israel and 68 on other countries.
 






Very doubtful that would resolve this. 
Anti-Israel groups would only be satisfied with the complete elimination of Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 19, 2023, 06:20:34 AM
Hiroshima, Nagasaki?
Dresden?

All wars deliberatly target civilians
the war on terror never ended but the jews may have figured out how.

You kill a guys brother he becomes a terrorist.

You remove a  Islamic country from the face of the earth and the people in Tehran get scared
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 19, 2023, 06:53:38 AM
I flew yesterday and I'm currently very close to Israel. There are huge billboards erected in solidarity for the country, which is fine—ordinary citizens there have suffered greatly. What really grates on me, though, is the unforgivable cowardice of many of our leaders in refusing to condemn the response that Israel has implemented and the clear intentions behind it. I'll likely be in Jordan soon and it should be interesting to see what the sentiments are there.

I'm clinging to a charitable view of most Getbiggers, in that they're too busy getting absolutely massive in the gym and shagging 10/10 Playboy models to worry about trivialities such as another potential regional conflict that their own soldiers will die in, but what events like this reveal is that some people really should be forcibly branded on their forehead with an iron that reads 'I'm a fucking moron'.

If someone were to say that they're essentially nihilistic, everyone can fuck off and die, life is a war against all and we should do away with every law and norm governing conflict, well, fine. It’s a bit like when I speak to the devoutly religious who oppose abortion under every single circumstance. I completely disagree with their premise but I can at least tell that they're following the correct logic of it.

Some people, including a few here, just say things because they think it sounds 'cool', which is really quite hilarious given the average age of everyone. What they are really saying is:

  • I'm too stupid to understand the need for a principled application of international law.
  • I'm too stupid to understand the predictable consequences of tearing apart the notion of universal basic rights in favour of political expediency.
  • I’m too stupid to separate fact from transparent propaganda, and I'm too stupid to realise that I'm regurgitating the intentionally false narratives of people who are paid to spout them, without being compensated myself.
  • I’m too stupid, even after the 2003 Iraq war, to appreciate the blowback and backlash that comes from states lying to their citizens in order to achieve a dangerous policy goal.
The things that most people here seem to rail against, e.g. huge numbers of people seeking asylum in Europe, soldiers dying needlessly, increase of terrorism on home soil, etc., are what will be the results of this escalating. 

The president of Israel literally said at a press conference last week that they are at war with an entire nation, not just Hamas. Israel has already bombed civilian convoys along ‘safe’ evacuation routes. Israeli settlers have been gunning down Palestinians in their own homes. Entire residential buildings have been destroyed. Power has been cut off to hospitals, and Israel already has a history of targeting them and then denying it, or claiming they were targeting militants.

It is largely irrelevant now if this particular hospital was hit by the IDF or a stray missile from 'the other team'. Israel is carrying out an illegal, genocidal campaign against a population. Anyone with a spine should be able to say that.

As an aside, there’s a good podcast (The Rest Is Politics) released on Tuesday, with former Conservative MP Rory Stewart, journalist Alastair Campbell, and the Palestinian ambassador to the UK Husam Zomlot. Worth a listen to get some more context.

Best opinion I've read in years,thank you.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 19, 2023, 10:35:10 AM
If you are Jewish or non-Jewish, here is what Tikkun Olam, which is usually explained to gentiles and many Jews as "healing the world", actually means:

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1714328801122140399 (https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1714328801122140399)

If you can spend two minutes and 18 seconds of your life watching the rabbi in the above video, you'll understand 100% more why the world is concerned about certain supremacists.


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 19, 2023, 10:42:45 AM
Best opinion I've read in years,thank you.

If you completely ignore the reality that we have no choice but react.

Are you gonna have the same attitude when they bomb Paris or New York(again).

Human shields is no longer an option. There's 2 billion muzzies they need to be sent a message.

We're done with the western rules as long as they play by muzzie rules.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 19, 2023, 10:46:35 AM
If you completely ignore the reality that we have no choice but react.

Are you gonna have the same attitude when they bomb Paris or New York(again).

Human shields is no longer an option. There's 2 billion muzzies they need to be sent a message.

We're done with the western rules as long as they play by muzzie rules.

If i could remove all muzzies with the touch of  a button, i would

And i would not lose any sleep over it
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 19, 2023, 11:57:50 AM
If you completely ignore the reality that we have no choice but react.

Are you gonna have the same attitude when they bomb Paris or New York(again).

Human shields is no longer an option. There's 2 billion muzzies they need to be sent a message.

We're done with the western rules as long as they play by muzzie rules.

9/11 was over 20 years ago and killed less than 3000 people, I couldn’t give less of a shit about “radical Islam”
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 19, 2023, 12:51:28 PM
9/11 was over 20 years ago and killed less than 3000 people, I couldn’t give less of a shit about “radical Islam”
Until it happens again. Did you think multiplying the muslim population in those 22 years, was a way of stopping this stuff? The only reason we haven't had an attack is because no one had the balls to pay for such an act.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 19, 2023, 01:25:30 PM
Until it happens again. Did you think multiplying the muslim population in those 22 years, was a way of stopping this stuff? The only reason we haven't had an attack is because no one had the balls to pay for such an act.

The only reason there isnt another attack because sept 11 was a inside job, nothing to do with alqaeda.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 19, 2023, 02:36:37 PM
The only reason there isnt another attack because sept 11 was a inside job, nothing to do with alqaeda.

I agree with Sting Ray on this
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 19, 2023, 03:56:21 PM
its just a sad complicated matter

german and british are responsible for this mess...what was the need to kill so many jews and install permanent paranoia in them and then  british helped them gather in Palestine  which was not their land . 

until if some land is permanently given to plastine back this matter wont resolve but israel wont give they are fighting for survival so they need to be aggressive and brutal

From 2015 through 2022, the UN General Assembly has adopted 140 resolutions on Israel and 68 on other countries.
 


Even if land is given that won't fix the problem. You have an enclave of people who are culturally dissimilar. IMO they survive based off of outside support. As long as the USA is a superpower Israel will continue to survive and slowly expand, likely taking over Gaza and the West Bank completely. That's just my speculation. I think 20 years from now there is no Palestine at all. But I also think that 100 years from now if the USA is not a superpower Israel itself won't exist. But I am very much a cynic.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 19, 2023, 04:00:16 PM
If you completely ignore the reality that we have no choice but react.

Are you gonna have the same attitude when they bomb Paris or New York(again).

Human shields is no longer an option. There's 2 billion muzzies they need to be sent a message.

We're done with the western rules as long as they play by muzzie rules.

Fuck off
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 19, 2023, 04:08:16 PM
Even if land is given that won't fix the problem. You have an enclave of people who are culturally dissimilar. IMO they survive based off of outside support. As long as the USA is a superpower Israel will continue to survive and slowly expand, likely taking over Gaza and the West Bank completely. That's just my speculation. I think 20 years from now there is no Palestine at all. But I also think that 100 years from now if the USA is not a superpower Israel itself won't exist. But I am very much a cynic.

Only a fool would believe that had this territory been left to Arab rejects from other countries they would’ve produced a result like this without the benefit of huge oil reserves. The closest comparison is SA. Look what happened when Dindus were left to their own devices.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 19, 2023, 04:25:36 PM
Fuck off





Drop a nuke get it over with.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 19, 2023, 05:17:42 PM
Only a fool would believe that had this territory been left to Arab rejects from other countries they would’ve produced a result like this without the benefit of huge oil reserves. The closest comparison is SA. Look what happened when Dindus were left to their own devices.

I don't disagree.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 19, 2023, 05:42:29 PM
I don't disagree.

It would be similar or worse than the other nearby countries. 

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 24, 2023, 09:01:32 AM
FBI Director Christopher Wray warns about the possibility of Hamas-style attacks on US soil.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 24, 2023, 09:02:08 AM
▫️
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 24, 2023, 09:22:05 AM
Very doubtful that would resolve this. 
Anti-Israel groups would only be satisfied with the complete elimination of Israel.

This ^.

Because the ignorant of this world are like libturds in that they demand equality but only with those they envy.  They want what hard work has wrought but never enough to do so by their own hands.  Palestinians are the Buttmonkeys of the Arab world.  No one likes them.  No one wants them in their home.

And even if the world rose up as one and gave them their own land with all the modern conveniences still they would bitch and moan like the bitches they are.  Do not suffer a cockroach to live in your home. Neither a poisonous spider nor any other creature that crawls, walks, hops or flies.   

And that goes triple for mooslimes.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 24, 2023, 09:29:13 AM
This ^.

Because the ignorant of this world are like libturds in that they demand equality but only with those they envy.  They want what hard work has wrought but never enough to do so by their own hands.  Palestinians are the Buttmonkeys of the Arab world.  No one likes them.  No one wants them in their home.

And even if the world rose up as one and gave them their own land with all the modern conveniences still they would bitch and moan like the bitches they are.  Do not suffer a cockroach to live in your home. Neither a poisonous spider nor any other creature that crawls, walks, hops or flies.   

And that goes triple for mooslimes.


Imagine what a better world this would be without Israel or Jews.   Finally have peace in this world.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 24, 2023, 09:33:42 AM
Imagine what a better world this would be without Israel or Jews.   Finally have peace in this world.

X2
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Flexacon on October 24, 2023, 10:49:12 AM
Imagine what a better world this would be without Israel or Jews.   Finally have peace in this world.

If everyone looked the same and followed the same religion and beliefs, we would eventually find some other reason to go to war. Probably something ridiculous like left handed people and their sympathizers at war with righties
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 24, 2023, 01:23:26 PM
The GOP Candidates Unite Around Calls to Deport Pro-Palestine Students

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/10/gop-presidential-field-deport-pro-palestine-protestors (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/10/gop-presidential-field-deport-pro-palestine-protestors)

BUT


They never say a peep about, much less unite around, deporting the third world sneaking into the US.

Shows who is actually ruling the US.

Same with France and England

I thought it was impossible to deport people when the concern is the replacement population invasion funded by Israeli NGOs into Western countries. SUDDENLY, when organized Jewry wants it done for their own personal benefit, it's no longer racist to kick migrants out of your countries.

US congressmen will probably be bribed or blackmailed, or evangelically cucked into, once again, fighting Israel's wars and the displaced Palestinians will go to Western countries.

If you're pro US, you shouldn't want a scenario where Palestinians flood the US.

America second. 



Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 24, 2023, 01:40:04 PM
The oil must flow!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 24, 2023, 02:42:25 PM
😊👍🏻
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: MajorDomo on October 24, 2023, 02:44:13 PM
FBI Director Christopher Wray warns about the possibility of Hamas-style attacks on US soil.

I'm more concerned about the FBI attacking us.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 24, 2023, 02:56:11 PM
I'm more concerned about the FBI attacking us.

I'm more concerned about being suffocated by all the Boobs surrounding Me  ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 24, 2023, 03:41:39 PM
I'm more concerned about being suffocated by all the Boobs surrounding Me  ;D

What is your exact location?

 ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 24, 2023, 04:13:28 PM
What is your exact location?

 ;D

Boobs heaven I think 😂🤣😂👊🏻
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 25, 2023, 12:49:40 AM
😊👍🏻
That is more than their husbands will ever see.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: affeman on October 25, 2023, 04:42:50 AM
Imagine what a better world this would be without Israel or Jews.   Finally have peace in this world.

Ok bro...? ::)

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on October 25, 2023, 04:43:00 AM
😊👍🏻

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=688376.0;attach=1470446;image)

That's Incredible.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 25, 2023, 04:50:19 AM
Meanwhile, the American Leadership

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 25, 2023, 08:08:45 PM
Imagine what a better world this would be without Israel or Jews.   Finally have peace in this world.

Need to wipe out Africa while you're at it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 25, 2023, 09:01:27 PM
FBI Director Christopher Wray warns about the possibility of Hamas-style attacks on US soil.

This was a given when Biden was installed and opened the borders and very few are prepared for it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 25, 2023, 09:04:23 PM
Didn’t realize there were so many Hamas terrorist sympathizers on this board. How about giving us your addresses so we can pile the bodies up on your doorstep when they hit here….which they will.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 25, 2023, 09:21:32 PM
Didn’t realize there were so many Hamas terrorist sympathizers on this board. How about giving us your addresses so we can pile the bodies up on your doorstep when they hit here….which they will.

Shouldn’t you be watching Fox News? There’s a man hunt in Maine.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 25, 2023, 09:27:02 PM
Shouldn’t you be watching Fox News? There’s a man hunt in Maine.

Been following it since it broke
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 25, 2023, 10:43:21 PM
FBI Director Christopher Wray warns about the possibility of Hamas-style attacks on US soil.

What is Hamas style?

Am I so out of date with lingo there is actually a ‘Hamas style’ that is universally known so when there is an attack somewhere in the world the public all nod and say ‘see that there? It’s a Hamas style attack.

Can someone else performs a Hamas style attack? Or is it only Hamas who can do it in which case it’s be called an attack by Hamas. Or do we say it’s a Hamas style attack by Hamas?

Reading such dribble I imagine that guy who said that Claps his hands while trying to touch his elbows and lick his ear.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 25, 2023, 11:29:05 PM
Didn’t realize there were so many Hamas terrorist sympathizers on this board. How about giving us your addresses so we can pile the bodies up on your doorstep when they hit here….which they will.

These people are naught but two-legged swine.  Cast not pearls but rather shake their dust.  And in doing so, rattle their pathetic souls.

You've got mail, brother. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 26, 2023, 01:01:28 AM
Hamas and Palestine type illegals will come across the border, perform some mass murder, and shitter and the demturdz will want to blame the weapons they used.
Not the actual killer/criminals... Maybe blame Trump and domestic white terrorists in red ball-caps...   ::)

You know, our most serious terror threat!!!   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 26, 2023, 01:15:12 AM
Shitter wants to thank the Israeli's and Palestinians!!!   ::) ::) ::)

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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 26, 2023, 01:18:36 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 26, 2023, 03:21:05 AM
What is even funnier is there are some on Getbig who believe he's running
The country & that he's fully cognitive & will vote for him again 😱  😳 
Unbelievable bunch of 🤡's - I don't know who's more gone Pedo Joe
or the 🤡's that can't see / admit he's fucked & support him.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Wiggs on October 26, 2023, 04:08:03 AM
What is even funnier is there are some on Getbig who believe he's running
The country & that he's fully cognitive & will vote for him again 😱  😳 
Unbelievable bunch of 🤡's - I don't know who's more gone Pedo Joe
or the 🤡's that can't see / admit he's fucked & support him.

His dumbfuck supporters.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Wiggs on October 26, 2023, 04:10:23 AM
Need to wipe out Africa while you're at it.
No, Need to wide out Europe, America, Israel and China.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 26, 2023, 04:32:46 AM
His dumbfuck supporters.

True, they still TDS cry about Trump, though the country and world was 1-million times in a better place.
They cant see thru their hate & stupidity in order to view the obvious.

Retardz... ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 26, 2023, 06:14:41 AM
No, Need to wide out Europe, America, Israel and China.

You want to go back to living in the Stone Age?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 26, 2023, 06:49:51 AM
Didn’t realize there were so many Hamas terrorist sympathizers on this board. How about giving us your addresses so we can pile the bodies up on your doorstep when they hit here….which they will.

Do the MAGA thing. Don't fight other countries wars. Don't waste taxpayer money that could be spent at home sending two carrier groups to get shot at when you really don't have to.

Being America First isn't "pro-Hamas."

Pointing out that a blockade depriving
millions of innocent people of basic necessities like water is deeply immoral - that's not "pro-terrorist." It's basic decency.

Saying "Hey how about you target the enemy instead of indiscriminately lobbing munitions at civilians" is difficult to argue against. Biden murdered that van full of Afghan children after the botched retreat. He ought to be prosecuted as a war criminal.

Trump didn't start any wars. It's one of the things I point to when people complain about him. Btw, the documents he waved around allegedly demonstrated a deepstate plan to push him into with Iran, which he didn't support.

The war propaganda machine is in high gear. No dissent or questioning allowed. No nuance. Clap for the leaders or else you're a traitor, etc.

Fuck all that. Let's not do what Lindsey Graham advises. Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself. By itself. Without US lives and money. So help me god if you say "But they're our ally" then I'll say you need to vote for Nikki Fucking Haley.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 26, 2023, 06:51:19 AM
Didn’t realize there were so many Hamas terrorist sympathizers on this board. How about giving us your addresses so we can pile the bodies up on your doorstep when they hit here….which they will.

How about countries mind their own fucking business
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 26, 2023, 06:57:38 AM
How about countries mind their own fucking business

Because it's bad for business.

Innit.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 26, 2023, 07:10:28 AM
 

Fuck all that. Let's not do what Lindsey Graham advises. Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself. By itself. Without US lives and money. So help me god if you say "But they're our ally" then I'll say you need to vote for Nikki Fucking Haley.

Agree. I think Graham is a poorly closeted homo and paid shrill. He'll say anything his donors pay him to say. He's always seemed particularly slimy to me, even for a politician.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 26, 2023, 07:20:43 AM
No, Need to wide out Europe, America, Israel and China.

They are already quite wide countries/continents

How to make them even wider?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 26, 2023, 07:29:36 AM
Agree. I think Graham is a poorly closeted homo and paid shrill. He'll say anything his donors pay him to say. He's always seemed particularly slimy to me, even for a politician.

There's no shortage of them.

Once again, everyone's a goddamn expert online on some intricate complex issue. I'm content to stick to basics like not killing large numbers of innocent people for any reason.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 26, 2023, 07:35:36 AM
Do the MAGA thing. Don't fight other countries wars. Don't waste taxpayer money that could be spent at home sending two carrier groups to get shot at when you really don't have to.

Being America First isn't "pro-Hamas."

Pointing out that a blockade depriving
millions of innocent people of basic necessities like water is deeply immoral - that's not "pro-terrorist." It's basic decency.

Saying "Hey how about you target the enemy instead of indiscriminately lobbing munitions at civilians" is difficult to argue against. Biden murdered that van full of Afghan children after the botched retreat. He ought to be prosecuted as a war criminal.

Trump didn't start any wars. It's one of the things I point to when people complain about him. Btw, the documents he waved around allegedly demonstrated a deepstate plan to push him into with Iran, which he didn't support.

The war propaganda machine is in high gear. No dissent or questioning allowed. No nuance. Clap for the leaders or else you're a traitor, etc.

Fuck all that. Let's not do what Lindsey Graham advises. Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself. By itself. Without US lives and money. So help me god if you say "But they're our ally" then I'll say you need to vote for Nikki Fucking Haley.

^ This and the whole post

Besides, Netanyahu funded Hamas. Notice the people concerned about terrorism never call out Netanyahu for funding Hamas and also don't understand that America would be safer if Hamas and the Palestinians stayed in Israel, not expelling them from Israel along with the Palestinians to the US and Europe, which is where all the people Israel displaces by destabilizing the Middle East end up. That's why Mohammad is now the top baby name in England.

Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin are not America First. They make Fox viewers feel as if they're patriotic for supporting Israel over the US but gentiles need to study up on Israel, the torah, the Talmud, the Kabbalah, the Noahide laws....from a Zionist perspective .... Ben Shapiro's shabbos goy fanboys are working against their own self interests, by elevating a country that stole US nuclear secrets above their own country, because Mark Levin's high-pitched America-Second rants give them an erection.

They learned nothing from "weapons of mass destruction" and tens of thousands of dead or injured American troops.

Rabbi Gladstein: 'The stage is set' for the prophetic war to destroy America

When religious nutcases rock back and forth like the guy in the video, it's call shuckling and the actual origin is simulating intercourse with the goddess Shekhinah. שְׁכִינָה,‎‎ if you're keeping score. Goddess? Yes, not actually monotheistic, as you may have been taught.

Video: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1717412052082590029 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1717412052082590029)

We seem to support killing people that don't have these holidays:

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CVHwqh8/F9-Oc-JVya-IAA4bs6.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 26, 2023, 11:15:36 AM
Agree. I think Graham is a poorly closeted homo and paid shrill. He'll say anything his donors pay him to say. He's always seemed particularly slimy to me, even for a politician.

He’s essentially the Republican Biden, a scummy* career politician with no core values.

*Would’ve used “slimy” but you beat me to it.😂
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 26, 2023, 11:17:29 AM
I haven’t heard anybody bring this up yet, but had the Israelis been less obsessed with getting everyone vaxxed and boosted they might have been better prepared.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 26, 2023, 11:27:15 AM
Simple - This
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 26, 2023, 11:34:17 AM
Do the MAGA thing. Don't fight other countries wars. Don't waste taxpayer money that could be spent at home sending two carrier groups to get shot at when you really don't have to.

Being America First isn't "pro-Hamas."

Pointing out that a blockade depriving
millions of innocent people of basic necessities like water is deeply immoral - that's not "pro-terrorist." It's basic decency.

Saying "Hey how about you target the enemy instead of indiscriminately lobbing munitions at civilians" is difficult to argue against. Biden murdered that van full of Afghan children after the botched retreat. He ought to be prosecuted as a war criminal.

Trump didn't start any wars. It's one of the things I point to when people complain about him. Btw, the documents he waved around allegedly demonstrated a deepstate plan to push him into with Iran, which he didn't support.

The war propaganda machine is in high gear. No dissent or questioning allowed. No nuance. Clap for the leaders or else you're a traitor, etc.

Fuck all that. Let's not do what Lindsey Graham advises. Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself. By itself. Without US lives and money. So help me god if you say "But they're our ally" then I'll say you need to vote for Nikki Fucking Haley.


The problem with this post is that you forgot to mention that one of the founders of Hamas called for a Jihad against the West.


You also forgot to mention that the director of the FBI is expecting Hamas style of attacks in the US.




Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 26, 2023, 01:59:50 PM

The problem with this post is that you forgot to mention that one of the founders of Hamas called for a Jihad against the West.


You also forgot to mention that the director of the FBI is expecting Hamas style of attacks in the US.

Yes
Never forget the Hamas style of attacks  ::)

I wonder if the FBI director can point out the differences between a Hamas attack
And a Hamas style of attack so we can all know which is which .
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 26, 2023, 03:12:13 PM
What is Hamas style?

Am I so out of date with lingo there is actually a ‘Hamas style’ that is universally known so when there is an attack somewhere in the world the public all nod and say ‘see that there? It’s a Hamas style attack.

Can someone else performs a Hamas style attack? Or is it only Hamas who can do it in which case it’s be called an attack by Hamas. Or do we say it’s a Hamas style attack by Hamas?

Reading such dribble I imagine that guy who said that Claps his hands while trying to touch his elbows and lick his ear.

Imagine if instead of digging tunnels  tearing up fences dropping from air balloons they just borrow a oil truck from their work and torch an auditorium full of people

This took 1000 times the effort of just going to america and torching a few fire exits.

The reason  there hasn't been a major attack on us soil is the money trail needed to do it right.

Iran proved there are people willing to fund such things.

Killing 3000 americans would cause a war the us couldn't win. Iran is much much more powerful than Afghanistan or iraq.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 26, 2023, 03:33:55 PM
Yes
Never forget the Hamas style of attacks  ::)

I wonder if the FBI director can point out the differences between a Hamas attack
And a Hamas style of attack so we can all know which is which .

Trump said it too!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 26, 2023, 03:52:31 PM
Trump said it too!

Where in that quote Did Donald say Hamas style attacks??
I seem to have Missed that part .
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 26, 2023, 04:08:26 PM
^ This and the whole post

Besides, Netanyahu funded Hamas. Notice the people concerned about terrorism never call out Netanyahu for funding Hamas and also don't understand that America would be safer if Hamas and the Palestinians stayed in Israel, not expelling them from Israel along with the Palestinians to the US and Europe, which is where all the people Israel displaces by destabilizing the Middle East end up. That's why Mohammad is now the top baby name in England.

Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin are not America First. They make Fox viewers feel as if they're patriotic for supporting Israel over the US but gentiles need to study up on Israel, the torah, the Talmud, the Kabbalah, the Noahide laws....from a Zionist perspective .... Ben Shapiro's shabbos goy fanboys are working against their own self interests, by elevating a country that stole US nuclear secrets above their own country, because Mark Levin's high-pitched America-Second rants give them an erection.

They learned nothing from "weapons of mass destruction" and tens of thousands of dead or injured American troops.

Rabbi Gladstein: 'The stage is set' for the prophetic war to destroy America

When religious nutcases rock back and forth like the guy in the video, it's call shuckling and the actual origin is simulating intercourse with the goddess Shekhinah. שְׁכִינָה,‎‎ if you're keeping score. Goddess? Yes, not actually monotheistic, as you may have been taught.

Video: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1717412052082590029 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1717412052082590029)

We seem to support killing people that don't have these holidays:

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CVHwqh8/F9-Oc-JVya-IAA4bs6.jpg)
This ^^^^^

https://www.rt.com/russia/585802-putin-world-order/

The West is fomenting religious hatred and intolerance to “divide and conquer” the world, to maintain a “new world order” that amounts to dominance and colonialism, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.

^^^^^^^
Putin >> All Western Politicians Combined

Putin tells it like it is. The world would be better if Western Politicians were like him. I wish Putin well in his endeavors. I am on his / Russia's side!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 26, 2023, 04:13:51 PM
Do the MAGA thing. Don't fight other countries wars. Don't waste taxpayer money that could be spent at home sending two carrier groups to get shot at when you really don't have to.

Being America First isn't "pro-Hamas."

Pointing out that a blockade depriving
millions of innocent people of basic necessities like water is deeply immoral - that's not "pro-terrorist." It's basic decency.

Saying "Hey how about you target the enemy instead of indiscriminately lobbing munitions at civilians" is difficult to argue against. Biden murdered that van full of Afghan children after the botched retreat. He ought to be prosecuted as a war criminal.

Trump didn't start any wars. It's one of the things I point to when people complain about him. Btw, the documents he waved around allegedly demonstrated a deepstate plan to push him into with Iran, which he didn't support.

The war propaganda machine is in high gear. No dissent or questioning allowed. No nuance. Clap for the leaders or else you're a traitor, etc.

Fuck all that. Let's not do what Lindsey Graham advises. Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself. By itself. Without US lives and money. So help me god if you say "But they're our ally" then I'll say you need to vote for Nikki Fucking Haley.

Agreed. Good post. I'm disappointed that Coach does not seem to display empathy for the Palestinians. The Hamas attack was another Jewish False Flag, just like 911 was. Coach, read up on the dancing Israelis in NY when the towers collapsed. The Jews' fingerprints are all over it.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on October 26, 2023, 04:34:08 PM
Agreed. Good post. I'm disappointed that Coach does not seem to display empathy for the Palestinians. The Hamas attack was another Jewish False Flag, just like 911 was. Coach, read up on the dancing Israelis in NY when the towers collapsed. The Jews' fingerprints are all over it.


Yeah... ok.... some of these stories are just plain - crazy and stupid.      Hamas needs to go - out of the Gaza strip, out of the West Bank, so that the Palestians can have a government that actually wants peace.  Simple as that.   As long as Hamas is there in the Gaza Strip terrorizing Palestinians, nothing will change.  Some very Palestinians in the US are afraid to say anything about change or peace for fear that their family members will be harassed or killed. 

Hamas killed 1,400 people in Israel in an unprovoked attacks, kidnapped 240+ more, and hides under the hospitals and mosques of Gaza, delibertly hurting the Palestinians.  If the Palestinians would like to just have peace, they are labeled a collaborator and killed. That is known.  No elections in Gaza since 2006. No freedoms from Hamas.  The oil is sitting there, Hamas wont let anyone have it so they can run the tunnels underneath the city and hospital. 

Simple fact. If Hamas said enough, lets call a truce for peace, this would of stopped a long time ago.  But on October 7, 1,400 people were killed, thousands of rockets fired into Israel, and Hamas knew what would happen.... or did they.  Only one way out now... is for Hamas to release all hostages, and leave the Gaza Strip.

No amount of propaganda will help.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Raymondo on October 26, 2023, 04:40:08 PM

Yeah... ok.... some of these stories are just plain - crazy and stupid.      Hamas needs to go - out of the Gaza strip, out of the West Bank, so that the Palestians can have a government that actually wants peace.  Simple as that.   As long as Hamas is there in the Gaza Strip terrorizing Palestinians, nothing will change.  Some very Palestinians in the US are afraid to say anything about change or peace for fear that their family members will be harassed or killed. 

Hamas killed 1,400 people in Israel in an unprovoked attacks, kidnapped 240+ more, and hides under the hospitals and mosques of Gaza, delibertly hurting the Palestinians.  If the Palestinians would like to just have peace, they are labeled a collaborator and killed. That is known.  No elections in Gaza since 2006. No freedoms from Hamas.  The oil is sitting there, Hamas wont let anyone have it so they can run the tunnels underneath the city and hospital. 

Simple fact. If Hamas said enough, lets call a truce for peace, this would of stopped a long time ago.  But on October 7, 1,400 people were killed, thousands of rockets fired into Israel, and Hamas knew what would happen.... or did they.  Only one way out now... is for Hamas to release all hostages, and leave the Gaza Strip.

No amount of propaganda will help.

Could you not just ban this retard? You've banned people before for extreme antisemitism...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on October 26, 2023, 04:56:38 PM
Could you not just ban this retard? You've banned people before for extreme antisemitism...


It is his opinion. I could, but debate is one things I like - but when there are threats against people, that is different.  But discussion, weather I like it or not, is always something you can learn from.  Just like liberals scream and shout blocking Republican conservatives, you need to have room for discussion from both sides.   I have been dealing with antisemitism my whole life, but sometimes, as people get older and wiser, they begin to understand.  Some do, some don't, especially when religious beliefs supersede basic things.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Raymondo on October 26, 2023, 05:10:42 PM

It is his opinion. I could, but debate is one things I like - but when there are threats against people, that is different.  But discussion, weather I like it or not, is always something you can learn from.  Just like liberals scream and shout blocking Republican conservatives, you need to have room for discussion from both sides.   I have been dealing with antisemitism my whole life, but sometimes, as people get older and wiser, they begin to understand.  Some do, some don't, especially when religious beliefs supersede basic things.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 26, 2023, 05:19:25 PM

Yeah... ok.... some of these stories are just plain - crazy and stupid.      Hamas needs to go - out of the Gaza strip, out of the West Bank, so that the Palestians can have a government that actually wants peace.  Simple as that.   As long as Hamas is there in the Gaza Strip terrorizing Palestinians, nothing will change.  Some very Palestinians in the US are afraid to say anything about change or peace for fear that their family members will be harassed or killed. 

Hamas killed 1,400 people in Israel in an unprovoked attacks, kidnapped 240+ more, and hides under the hospitals and mosques of Gaza, delibertly hurting the Palestinians.  If the Palestinians would like to just have peace, they are labeled a collaborator and killed. That is known.  No elections in Gaza since 2006. No freedoms from Hamas.  The oil is sitting there, Hamas wont let anyone have it so they can run the tunnels underneath the city and hospital. 

Simple fact. If Hamas said enough, lets call a truce for peace, this would of stopped a long time ago.  But on October 7, 1,400 people were killed, thousands of rockets fired into Israel, and Hamas knew what would happen.... or did they.  Only one way out now... is for Hamas to release all hostages, and leave the Gaza Strip.

No amount of propaganda will help.

I and many others on Getbig appreciate that you allow other opinions Ron. You have my respect for that. If you ban me then it's ok. It will give me time to focus on getting work done - lol!

Sometimes incidents happen to escalate a situation or create an excuse to attack. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was twisted by Lyndon B. Johnson to start the Vietnam War. These things have happened throughout history. Leaders lie and people die. Everything that happens should be questioned. You cannot believe anything unless you see it with your own eyes.

Perhaps Hamas was a legitimate attack on Israel. But if hundreds of thousands of Palestinians end up dying and the rest are evicted out of Gaza then I am inclined to think this was very convenient for Israel. After all, look at the map of Israel over the years. Anyone can see the Palestinians were being snuffed out of territory over the years. Perhaps you can explain to me why Israel is so important to Ashkenazi Jews? You have European DNA. I have a Jewish relative and her DNA results indicate that she is European. Ashkenazi Jews originated from Khazaria and converted to Judaism just after the founding of Islam. Or is this incorrect?

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.palestineportal.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2FLossOfLandMapCard.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c89233279ace16073f072ddbd75cb0c339c41c6374f3da441dae00050b44281f&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on October 26, 2023, 06:31:33 PM

1947 - Palestine was going to be put into a two state solution. Jews accepted it, 1948 - 7 armies attacked the Jews, and told Palestinian and others to get out of the way while they will destroy the Jews. 2 months later, it did not happen.  Cease fire.

1949-1967 - please fix that map.  There was no Palestine.  It was Egypt who ruled the Gaza Strip, and Jordan who ruled the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.  Jews were not allowed to even visit the Holy sections of Jerusalem.   Egypt and Jordan could of made a separate state at any time, but did not. Almost 20 years to get it done, it was not.

2005 - like Sinai, they gave Gaza to the Palestinian people in the hope that there would be peace, and they can make a state.  Four months later, Hamas took over.  Since then, no elections, no freedom to say anything, and just wars since Hamas' goal is to destroy Israel. 'From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free' is the Hamas slogon, to destroy Israel. Simple as that.  You say that, you align with the Hamas terrorists.  One day, many people would like to here "Let's have a way so that our children can leave in peace, and make Gaza and the West Bank a great place to live, like they are doing for other Arab cities, including Beirut:. But until Hamas is out of there, and you can get people who are brave enough to want peace, and not get killed for it, it won't happen.

 

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Skeletor on October 26, 2023, 06:42:20 PM

It is his opinion. I could, but debate is one things I like - but when there are threats against people, that is different.  But discussion, weather I like it or not, is always something you can learn from.  Just like liberals scream and shout blocking Republican conservatives, you need to have room for discussion from both sides.   I have been dealing with antisemitism my whole life, but sometimes, as people get older and wiser, they begin to understand.  Some do, some don't, especially when religious beliefs supersede basic things.

That's why getbig is great, one of the last places where people can talk freely and debate.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: stingray on October 26, 2023, 10:42:06 PM
I and many others on Getbig appreciate that you allow other opinions Ron. You have my respect for that. If you ban me then it's ok. It will give me time to focus on getting work done - lol!

Sometimes incidents happen to escalate a situation or create an excuse to attack. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was twisted by Lyndon B. Johnson to start the Vietnam War. These things have happened throughout history. Leaders lie and people die. Everything that happens should be questioned. You cannot believe anything unless you see it with your own eyes.

Perhaps Hamas was a legitimate attack on Israel. But if hundreds of thousands of Palestinians end up dying and the rest are evicted out of Gaza then I am inclined to think this was very convenient for Israel. After all, look at the map of Israel over the years. Anyone can see the Palestinians were being snuffed out of territory over the years. Perhaps you can explain to me why Israel is so important to Ashkenazi Jews? You have European DNA. I have a Jewish relative and her DNA results indicate that she is European. Ashkenazi Jews originated from Khazaria and converted to Judaism just after the founding of Islam. Or is this incorrect?

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.palestineportal.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2FLossOfLandMapCard.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c89233279ace16073f072ddbd75cb0c339c41c6374f3da441dae00050b44281f&ipo=images)

1400 or so dead by hamas was a fake story, most of the dead israelis were mowed down by the IDF, this is well documented by kibbutz residents, to make it out that Hamas did most of the killing, and all those fake footages that hamas gunned down partgoers, the footage was actually israelis celebrating a bruno mars concert.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 26, 2023, 10:52:59 PM
I and many others on Getbig appreciate that you allow other opinions Ron. You have my respect for that. If you ban me then it's ok. It will give me time to focus on getting work done - lol!

Sometimes incidents happen to escalate a situation or create an excuse to attack. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was twisted by Lyndon B. Johnson to start the Vietnam War. These things have happened throughout history. Leaders lie and people die. Everything that happens should be questioned. You cannot believe anything unless you see it with your own eyes.

Perhaps Hamas was a legitimate attack on Israel. But if hundreds of thousands of Palestinians end up dying and the rest are evicted out of Gaza then I am inclined to think this was very convenient for Israel. After all, look at the map of Israel over the years. Anyone can see the Palestinians were being snuffed out of territory over the years. Perhaps you can explain to me why Israel is so important to Ashkenazi Jews? You have European DNA. I have a Jewish relative and her DNA results indicate that she is European. Ashkenazi Jews originated from Khazaria and converted to Judaism just after the founding of Islam. Or is this incorrect?

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.palestineportal.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2FLossOfLandMapCard.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c89233279ace16073f072ddbd75cb0c339c41c6374f3da441dae00050b44281f&ipo=images)


Why don’t you just move to Iran? You’ll be a high ranking government official in no time.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 27, 2023, 12:47:33 AM
That's why getbig is great, one of the last places where people can talk freely and debate.

Pretty much this. The new Twitter is a million times better than before, also. Some great accounts on there with up to date crime/headline news and angles from a Getbigger perspective. Obviously the hardcore elements are banned but there's a lot more room for discussion.

I've been lurking on GB for a long time and have always appreciated the fact that it's an open forum where people rarely get banned unless they're obviously promoting violence or nonce/chomo type stuff.

I think with this whole October 7th attack, it strikes me as very odd how the most heavily patrolled and fortified border in the Middle East (or possibly the world, with exception of North Korea/South Korea) could be infiltrated with such ease. Surely the sensors would have automatically picked up problems - and Israel could have launched fighter jets and missiles within seconds. Something stinks with the lack of security and the timing on that day. How is it possible that everything worked out so perfectly for Hamas to do their barbaric act, huh? I'm not being funny, but Obsidian may have a point about certain elements turning a blind eye except they didn't expect for such a large invasion? These things have happened throughout history. It's perfectly possible that this new Far Right government in Tel Aviv thought, "lets wipe them out once and for all - but we need a good excuse."
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Stephano on October 27, 2023, 01:19:08 AM

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.palestineportal.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2FLossOfLandMapCard.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c89233279ace16073f072ddbd75cb0c339c41c6374f3da441dae00050b44281f&ipo=images)

lmao
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 27, 2023, 01:29:13 AM
I like how people post their favorite sites as "fact" like Prime w/ CNN and MSNBC.
Yells at others "DID YOU EEVN READ THE STORY"!?!?! When it comes from a non libturd source...

I dont believe any link posted from any source, EVER... The ones I post are for others who might want to read and discuss.
(And really just to piss off the whiny libturdz). Of course I dont believe FOX or CNN or Breitbart, etc...

Fake news for teh opposing side doesn't make it any less FAKE...  Libturdz, LOL - extremely dumb kvnts...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 27, 2023, 01:29:27 AM
Hahaha , Coach is Lindsey Graham....funny stuff btw this comedian is not a lib,he rails them all the time.

i=4W6pHFPYS_zH5Mze
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 27, 2023, 01:44:41 AM
That's why getbig is great, one of the last places where people can talk freely and debate.
Yep.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 27, 2023, 06:50:48 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 27, 2023, 07:07:34 AM
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Brutal and true.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 27, 2023, 07:10:21 AM
US is now bombing Syria
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67236438
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 27, 2023, 07:15:32 AM
US is now bombing Syria
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67236438

Iran is the next big one, I fear. The issue might be if Russia backs up Iran - it's gonna be interesting. Maybe the Americans would be banking on that so Russia has to fight Ukraine + help Iran. It'll give them an excuse to deploy to help Zelensky as well as wipe out Iran.

I'm probably talking nonsense but I recall just after 9/11 the plan of the Neocons was always to go after Iran, and they didn't. Like unfinished business.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 27, 2023, 07:21:37 AM
Iran is the next big one, I fear. The issue might be if Russia backs up Iran - it's gonna be interesting. Maybe the Americans would be banking on that so Russia has to fight Ukraine + help Iran. It'll give them an excuse to deploy to help Zelensky as well as wipe out Iran.

I'm probably talking nonsense but I recall just after 9/11 the plan of the Neocons was always to go after Iran, and they didn't. Like unfinished business.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 27, 2023, 07:28:39 AM
Iran is the next big one, I fear. The issue might be if Russia backs up Iran - it's gonna be interesting. Maybe the Americans would be banking on that so Russia has to fight Ukraine + help Iran. It'll give them an excuse to deploy to help Zelensky as well as wipe out Iran.

I'm probably talking nonsense but I recall just after 9/11 the plan of the Neocons was always to go after Iran, and they didn't. Like unfinished business.
the problem is if china steps in. They have an unemployment crisis with way too many males.

China spending 20 million men on warfare would benefit them.

China is bottle necked by the ocean in Taiwan.

If they support iran they can alleviate american naval support in taiwan. As turning the persian gulf into a total fire storm would cripple Europe

Not to mention pakistan being a modern  day Prussia, which is just a military that happens to have a civilian population.

Pakistan demographics are insane. They have an absurd volume of military age men who were indoctrinated by an islamo fascist government.

Pakistan could field an army that is bigger than NATO's with ease. And Pakistan is a country desperate for money.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 27, 2023, 07:53:26 AM


Linda Graham has the 'blackmailed dandy' take on all matters of human sacrifice.

Graham has said he's willing to support the Ukraine war(Zelensky) if it takes killing all Ukrainians "to the last man".

Zionist Christians are a sick lot. Can you imagine Chuck Schumer saying he supports funding Israel's wars if it takes killing all Israelis to the last man.

The idea of Zionist Christians switching from their present form of worshipping to the Noahide laws whereby Christians will literally worship the Jewish people as their god is the sickest development in the history of humanity.

Shame on Lindsey Graham, a perverted sicko of the Jeffrey Dahmer order. Absolute filth.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 27, 2023, 07:59:37 AM
the problem is if china steps in. They have an unemployment crisis with way too many males.

China spending 20 million men on warfare would benefit them.

China is bottle necked by the ocean in Taiwan.

If they support iran they can alleviate american naval support in taiwan. As turning the persian gulf into a total fire storm would cripple Europe

Not to mention pakistan being a modern  day Prussia, which is just a military that happens to have a civilian population.

Pakistan demographics are insane. They have an absurd volume of military age men who were indoctrinated by an islamo fascist government.

Pakistan could field an army that is bigger than NATO's with ease. And Pakistan is a country desperate for money.

You're absolutely right about China. i never considered Pakistan into the equation. Haven't they always been 'friendly' with the West - at least by appearances sake? Ever since the Pakistan/India problems in the 70's where Russia had to step in to guard India because USA was with Pakistan? I've always assumed that Pakistan gets a lot of underground support from the West that they don't like to advertise.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: CalvinH on October 27, 2023, 08:06:22 AM
US is now bombing Syria
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67236438


Only after we gave them billions of course.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 27, 2023, 08:09:40 AM

Only after we gave them billions of course.

Nikki Haley claimed that Israel doesn't need the US, the US needs Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 27, 2023, 08:14:25 AM
Nikki Haley claimed that Israel doesn't need the US, the US needs Israel.

Wow. Just wow.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 27, 2023, 08:50:38 AM
Wow. Just wow.

I recently heard an interview with her. She’s a hawk on every conflict a very angry woman  We’d need to draft the entire male population to fight all her wars. I’d be interested to see her major campaign donors.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 27, 2023, 09:26:36 AM
USA can wipe out Syria for all i care, if Israel wipes out Palestine

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 27, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
USA can wipe out Syria for all i care, if Israel wipes out Palestine

But then the refugees flood into Sweden, Europe, and the US. Why not contain them in the Middle East. Why facilitate more Arab diaspora into Europe? Why be content with Israel having you deal with the problems they created???
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 27, 2023, 09:58:19 AM
USA southern border and ports in Europe
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 27, 2023, 02:35:29 PM
the problem is if china steps in. They have an unemployment crisis with way too many males.

China spending 20 million men on warfare would benefit them.

China is bottle necked by the ocean in Taiwan.

If they support iran they can alleviate american naval support in taiwan. As turning the persian gulf into a total fire storm would cripple Europe

Not to mention pakistan being a modern  day Prussia, which is just a military that happens to have a civilian population.

Pakistan demographics are insane. They have an absurd volume of military age men who were indoctrinated by an islamo fascist government.

Pakistan could field an army that is bigger than NATO's with ease. And Pakistan is a country desperate for money.

Pakistan wouldn't be able to organise anything off their doorstep and India would beat them in a conventional war anyway.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 27, 2023, 02:57:37 PM
Nikki Haley claimed that Israel doesn't need the US, the US needs Israel.

Israeli politicians don't need US lobbyist money. US politicians need Israeli lobbyist money.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: BB on October 27, 2023, 03:02:14 PM
But then the refugees flood into Sweden, Europe, and the US. Why not contain them in the Middle East. Why facilitate more Arab diaspora into Europe? Why be content with Israel having you deal with the problems they created???

"Hello Wyoming, please welcome our new friends from XYZ....".
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 27, 2023, 03:02:56 PM
Pakistan wouldn't be able to organise anything off their doorstep and India would beat them in a conventional war anyway.

I said demographic not military.

Pakistan would love to offload several million of their men over to Iran/Russia/Taiwan.

They're basically a merc state in the making.

You can pay these poor bastards 10k a year and they'd fight harder than an American making 200k a year.

Just picture the Wagner group, with 2 million muslim pakistanis.

That's what we're heading towards.

Scarily India would be thrilled if many of these men were sent to Iran/Ukraine, as it would keep Pakistan off their backs.

History is full of places like Scotland, where they are incapable of producing militaries, while offering up hordes of bloodthirsty warriors willing to work for the highest bidder.


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 27, 2023, 03:10:03 PM
I said demographic not military.

Pakistan would love to offload several million of their men over to Iran/Russia/Taiwan.

They're basically a merc state in the making.

You can pay these poor bastards 10k a year and they'd fight harder than an American making 200k a year.

Just picture the Wagner group, with 2 million muslim pakistanis.

That's what we're heading towards.

Scarily India would be thrilled if many of these men were sent to Iran/Ukraine, as it would keep Pakistan off their backs.

History is full of places like Scotland, where they are incapable of producing militaries, while offering up hordes of bloodthirsty warriors willing to work for the highest bidder.

Have you dealt with Pakistanis and witnessed their excellence first hand?

 :D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 27, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
US is now bombing Syria
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67236438

The US sent 3 aircraft carriers to show solidarity to Israel……. US then blows some shit up in another country entirely.

You can see why the US Wants this to go tits up yeah?

Arab countries will crack the shits and the whole place will go bananas and place energy sanctions. US victory!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 27, 2023, 03:17:59 PM
Have you dealt with Pakistanis and witnessed their excellence first hand?

 :D
I meant as canon fodder.

Losing a million pakistanis in a foriegn war is population management for the Pakistani government. Especially if Russian/China/Iran are giving money to those poor boys families.

Most of Asia's economic problems would be lessened by a war not increased.

This is the problem of the western mindset.

A global Asian war, would in all probability succeed.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 27, 2023, 03:19:02 PM
The US sent 3 aircraft carriers to show solidarity to Israel……. US then blows some shit up in another country entirely.

You can see why the US Wants this to go tits up yeah?

Arab countries will crack the shits and the whole place will go bananas and place energy sanctions. US victory!

"completely separate country"

Virtually ever country between Israel and Iran is an Irainian puppet in one form or another, including Iraq.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 27, 2023, 03:48:18 PM
"Hello Wyoming, please welcome our new friends from XYZ....".

 ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 27, 2023, 04:06:21 PM
I said demographic not military.

Pakistan would love to offload several million of their men over to Iran/Russia/Taiwan.

They're basically a merc state in the making.

You can pay these poor bastards 10k a year and they'd fight harder than an American making 200k a year.

Just picture the Wagner group, with 2 million muslim pakistanis.

That's what we're heading towards.

Scarily India would be thrilled if many of these men were sent to Iran/Ukraine, as it would keep Pakistan off their backs.

History is full of places like Scotland, where they are incapable of producing militaries, while offering up hordes of bloodthirsty warriors willing to work for the highest bidder.
You're confused. A 2 million-strong Pakistani military group will be a prime target for a few strategic nukes. The days of invading nuclear powers with an army is over. The nations being invaded will resort to nuking the aggressors.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 27, 2023, 06:23:22 PM
You're confused. A 2 million-strong Pakistani military group will be a prime target for a few strategic nukes. The days of invading nuclear powers with an army is over. The nations being invaded will resort to nuking the aggressors.
Are we back to the ADHD tangent of America being invaded?

If the American dollar crashes, America will be a socialist hell hole over night. You won't be worrying about defending the country, you'll be fighting to get out. You think socialist are insufferable when you have a wealthy society wait until it's not, it'll be much much much worst.

The most probable likely to occur scenario is that Iran continually attacks the Persian gulf, trying to take out global oil production. Russia would be on board with this for obvious reasons, China would automatically get cut off from the oil if they invade Taiwan, via the US Navy.

If China is in this thing, they have every motivation to keep it a 3 front war, and can easily sent canon fodder to Ukraine/Iran.

You don't need to "win a war" you need to exhaust America's willingness to fight the war.

You're already defeated by the sounds of it.






Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 27, 2023, 07:42:48 PM
"completely separate country"

Virtually ever country between Israel and Iran is an Irainian puppet in one form or another, including Iraq.

You miss the point.

The US sent 2 Aircraft carrier to join one already there to show support for Israel.

Upon arriving, The US blew up some things in Syria and claimed self defence.

Ie the US always intended to blow things up over there and cause a problem.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 27, 2023, 08:02:48 PM
US does what US wants to do
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 28, 2023, 08:48:18 AM
I don't want to bash but MAGA guys quoting FBI directors?  3 weeks ago you wanted the guy's organization disbanded. No.

If you want Hamas destroyed then shouldn't you have a few questions about targeting them? Where are these bastards? Are we killing them? Instead of accepting wholesale murder of civilians in the hopes that the bad guys are some percentage of the dead? The dead which btw far outnumber the Israeli dead, who were also civilians. It was the killing of innocent civilians, if you'll recall, which defined the bad guys as irredeemable dickheads in the first place. So don't be an evil dickhead too, cheering the death of innocents. It's pretty simple when you're not blinded by vengeance.

Antisemitism? No. If I accept Barbara Spectre videos (love her name, it's so Bond Villain), along with umpteen other Jew supremancy advocates as representative of every Jew on the planet, then don't I also have to accept ANTIFA's 100 asshole white male examples as proof that all white males are evil? Except we're not. Check out Dave Smith. Check out Prof. Norm Finkelstein. Check out Ron Avidan.

Zionism? Not so much, from my honky perspective. As a project to kick out and kill people who lived there back in 1917 or whenever - fucking hell no. In 2023 tho, I have to apply the same logic. Israeli Jews live there now, and a lot were born there. So you can't just cancel Israel and tell them to gtfo. The bottom line is that the Arabs got conquered. Plenty of nations got formed that way. It was savage but we're not giving the land back to the Aborigines or the Injuns. Way of the world. Getting conquered sucks. Like the man said "Vae Victis." If the Arabs have a gripe they have to take it up with their great grandfather. That doesn't mean any of the Jewish or Evangelical Christian hocus pocus holy book nonsense is worth a damn thing. Tbh I find it freaky the US has members of Congress who decide war policy based on scripture.

Strategywise, Israel is on shaky ground imo. We give them 4 billion a year in peacetime, at least. Here we are post-terror wars, post-Afghan, in the midst of a public opinion swing against funding Ukraine, which is tied to domestic strife of several very non-trivial flavors, a desertion of enlistment by traditional folk, financial clouds, China on the horizon, basiclly everything but locust. What happens when the blush of the current thing is off the rose? What happens when it's not just me asking what exactly is the benefit to the US of all this money and possibly all these US body bags? What happens is that Israel is obliged to stand alone in a sea of adversity because the Brits are gone and the French are gone, and if the Americans go there's no more imperial big dog. So are you sure you want to put the squeeze on the US at this moment in history?

I ask again. How exactly does it benefit the US to back Israel? We give them money and weapons. A lot of money and weapons. And this could lead to much, much bigger things over there and things going boom at home. Plus the country is crumbling. What do we get in return? Why are we doing this?

In 30 days a whole lot more people that me will be asking this and it'll take more than today's vapid McPropaganda to quell. And it's a valid question.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: TheGrinch on October 28, 2023, 09:22:59 AM
FIXED

US does what the Rothschilds US wants to do
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 28, 2023, 09:42:40 AM
FIXED

Truth, it's the Rorschacs
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 28, 2023, 09:42:55 AM
I don't want to bash but MAGA guys quoting FBI directors?  3 weeks ago you wanted the guy's organization disbanded. No.

If you want Hamas destroyed then shouldn't you have a few questions about targeting them? Where are these bastards? Are we killing them? Instead of accepting wholesale murder of civilians in the hopes that the bad guys are some percentage of the dead? The dead which btw far outnumber the Israeli dead, who were also civilians. It was the killing of innocent civilians, if you'll recall, which defined the bad guys as irredeemable dickheads in the first place. So don't be an evil dickhead too, cheering the death of innocents. It's pretty simple when you're not blinded by vengeance.

Antisemitism? No. If I accept Barbara Spectre videos (love her name, it's so Bond Villain), along with umpteen other Jew supremancy advocates as representative of every Jew on the planet, then don't I also have to accept ANTIFA's 100 asshole white male examples as proof that all white males are evil? Except we're not. Check out Dave Smith. Check out Prof. Norm Finkelstein. Check out Ron Avidan.

Zionism? Not so much, from my honky perspective. As a project to kick out and kill people who lived there back in 1917 or whenever - fucking hell no. In 2023 tho, I have to apply the same logic. Israeli Jews live there now, and a lot were born there. So you can't just cancel Israel and tell them to gtfo. The bottom line is that the Arabs got conquered. Plenty of nations got formed that way. It was savage but we're not giving the land back to the Aborigines or the Injuns. Way of the world. Getting conquered sucks. Like the man said "Vae Victis." If the Arabs have a gripe they have to take it up with their great grandfather. That doesn't mean any of the Jewish or Evangelical Christian hocus pocus holy book nonsense is worth a damn thing. Tbh I find it freaky the US has members of Congress who decide war policy based on scripture.

Strategywise, Israel is on shaky ground imo. We give them 4 billion a year in peacetime, at least. Here we are post-terror wars, post-Afghan, in the midst of a public opinion swing against funding Ukraine, which is tied to domestic strife of several very non-trivial flavors, a desertion of enlistment by traditional folk, financial clouds, China on the horizon, basiclly everything but locust. What happens when the blush of the current thing is off the rose? What happens when it's not just me asking what exactly is the benefit to the US of all this money and possibly all these US body bags? What happens is that Israel is obliged to stand alone in a sea of adversity because the Brits are gone and the French are gone, and if the Americas go there's no more imperial big dog. So are you sure you want to put the squeeze on the US at this moment in history?

I ask again. How exactly does it benefit the US to back Israel? We give them money and weapons. A lot of money and weapons. And this could lead to much, much bigger things. Meanwhile your own cointry is crumbling. What do we get in return? Why are we doing this?

In 30 days a whole lot more people that me will be asking this and it'll take more than today's vapid McPropaganda to quell. And it's a valid question.

Agreed. I've mentioned this before as well.

If the US and EU drop support, Israel is in serious trouble.

Their situation is similar to Rhodesia, as Israel is surrounded by enemies who can infiltrate their core territory and force them to fight a permanent counterinsurgency campaign from within, as well as a war on the borders. With their whole map then being a patchwork of enclaves, no-go zones, hotspots and attacked farming areas needing protection, draining manpower.

Eventually the economy is wrecked and the war can only continue with external financial and arms support. In Rhodesia's case, they had South Africa supplying them, but when that stopped, it was the beginning of the end.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 28, 2023, 10:41:50 AM
Agreed. I've mentioned this before as well.

If the US and EU drop support, Israel is in serious trouble.

Their situation is similar to Rhodesia, as Israel is surrounded by enemies who can infiltrate their core territory and force them to fight a permanent counterinsurgency campaign from within, as well as a war on the borders. With their whole map then being a patchwork of enclaves, no-go zones, hotspots and attacked farming areas needing protection, draining manpower.

Eventually the economy is wrecked and the war can only continue with external financial and arms support. In Rhodesia's case, they had South Africa supplying them, but when that stopped, it was the beginning of the end.

I guess it depends to what extent superpower evangelical Christians in government are willing to send other people's money and children into the meat grinder.

My vote is zero but I'm not a Rapture guy.

Other than biblical prophecy, I'm not sure what we're getting from this deal.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 28, 2023, 10:52:34 AM
Giant pro-palestine crowds in Turkey and the President calling to put Israel on a "war criminal" list at NATO. At the same time he just voted to add Sweden to NATO, a bordering state of Russia. Turkey's money has lost almost a third of its value in the past year. It seems all world "leaders" are spoiling for a war to cover their failures up, curiously at the same time.   ::)

Remember we are selling them military gear when they aren't buying it from Russia. Turkey has a population of 85 million and Iran 88 million..they are joined by religion not some shaky NATO agreement that is more of a hostage situation with Turkey.

With friends like this who needs enemies, and remember before you would say that Iran is our enemy...dem admins send aid and pallets of cash to Iran and Hezbollah among other things.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Skeletor on October 28, 2023, 12:24:01 PM
Giant pro-palestine crowds in Turkey and the President calling to put Israel on a "war criminal" list at NATO. At the same time he just voted to add Sweden to NATO, a bordering state of Russia. Turkey's money has lost almost a third of its value in the past year. It seems all world "leaders" are spoiling for a war to cover their failures up, curiously at the same time.   ::)

Remember we are selling them military gear when they aren't buying it from Russia. Turkey has a population of 85 million and Iran 88 million..they are joined by religion not some shaky NATO agreement that is more of a hostage situation with Turkey.

With friends like this who needs enemies, and remember before you would say that Iran is our enemy...dem admins send aid and pallets of cash to Iran and Hezbollah among other things.

That's because he desperately wants F-16s and was extorting the US and NATO by vetoing Finland and Sweden. He still has not fully cleared Sweden for NATO, he has been delaying it for months and he just sent the protocol to the parliament (which is supposedly independent but controlled by him) for approval so if he doesn't get the things he wants, the veto on Sweden stays. He's playing both sides as usual, acting like a good guy saying he signed the protocol after demanding all sorts of concessions but also having the parliament as a reserve veto if things don't go his way. He's an inbred muslim conman who dreams of being the caliph of all muslims.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 28, 2023, 12:30:47 PM
Giant pro-palestine crowds in Turkey and the President calling to put Israel on a "war criminal" list at NATO. At the same time he just voted to add Sweden to NATO, a bordering state of Russia. Turkey's money has lost almost a third of its value in the past year. It seems all world "leaders" are spoiling for a war to cover their failures up, curiously at the same time.   ::)

Remember we are selling them military gear when they aren't buying it from Russia. Turkey has a population of 85 million and Iran 88 million..they are joined by religion not some shaky NATO agreement that is more of a hostage situation with Turkey.

With friends like this who needs enemies, and remember before you would say that Iran is our enemy...dem admins send aid and pallets of cash to Iran and Hezbollah among other things.

Turkey has always been playing both sides.

And also blackmailing Europe with a flood of refugees from the Middle East, so they get paid off with subsidies of billions of Euros.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 28, 2023, 01:50:07 PM
Giant pro-palestine crowds in Turkey and the President calling to put Israel on a "war criminal" list at NATO. At the same time he just voted to add Sweden to NATO, a bordering state of Russia. Turkey's money has lost almost a third of its value in the past year. It seems all world "leaders" are spoiling for a war to cover their failures up, curiously at the same time.   ::)

Remember we are selling them military gear when they aren't buying it from Russia. Turkey has a population of 85 million and Iran 88 million..they are joined by religion not some shaky NATO agreement that is more of a hostage situation with Turkey.

With friends like this who needs enemies, and remember before you would say that Iran is our enemy...dem admins send aid and pallets of cash to Iran and Hezbollah among other things.

I don't think Turkey and Iran and Saudi all get along. If we left them alone, they'd just sort it all out amongst themselves I don't think we need to referee it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 28, 2023, 02:10:17 PM


Peddlers
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 28, 2023, 10:17:23 PM

Because the US is supporting and supplying this, there's every chance of angry muzzie attacks. The US needs to walk away from this immediately and say "We refuse to be party to the mass murder of civilians and children."

Instead they're bombing Iranian assets and doing everything they can to start WW3. The country really is run by deepstate war machine psychos who want to watch your kids get fed into a meat grinder while they sip champagne.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 29, 2023, 09:24:55 AM
Hamas is using Crisis Actors.




“Hamas Crisis Actor pretends to be a victim of an Israeli air strike- appearing in a hospital bed while pretending to be in a critical condition as two supporting actors hold his hand.

In reality, the man is a Hamas musician and actor who has been appearing in various videos for the terror group.

One video he is seen celebrating in the streets as Hamas fire rockets towards Israel.

In another video he can be seen crying after claiming his apartment was hit by an airstrike.

And in another video he is seen singing while brandishing a gun while praising Hamas.“
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 29, 2023, 09:32:07 AM
I don't want to bash but MAGA guys quoting FBI directors?  3 weeks ago you wanted the guy's organization disbanded. No.

If you want Hamas destroyed then shouldn't you have a few questions about targeting them? Where are these bastards? Are we killing them? Instead of accepting wholesale murder of civilians in the hopes that the bad guys are some percentage of the dead? The dead which btw far outnumber the Israeli dead, who were also civilians. It was the killing of innocent civilians, if you'll recall, which defined the bad guys as irredeemable dickheads in the first place. So don't be an evil dickhead too, cheering the death of innocents. It's pretty simple when you're not blinded by vengeance.

Antisemitism? No. If I accept Barbara Spectre videos (love her name, it's so Bond Villain), along with umpteen other Jew supremancy advocates as representative of every Jew on the planet, then don't I also have to accept ANTIFA's 100 asshole white male examples as proof that all white males are evil? Except we're not. Check out Dave Smith. Check out Prof. Norm Finkelstein. Check out Ron Avidan.

Zionism? Not so much, from my honky perspective. As a project to kick out and kill people who lived there back in 1917 or whenever - fucking hell no. In 2023 tho, I have to apply the same logic. Israeli Jews live there now, and a lot were born there. So you can't just cancel Israel and tell them to gtfo. The bottom line is that the Arabs got conquered. Plenty of nations got formed that way. It was savage but we're not giving the land back to the Aborigines or the Injuns. Way of the world. Getting conquered sucks. Like the man said "Vae Victis." If the Arabs have a gripe they have to take it up with their great grandfather. That doesn't mean any of the Jewish or Evangelical Christian hocus pocus holy book nonsense is worth a damn thing. Tbh I find it freaky the US has members of Congress who decide war policy based on scripture.

Strategywise, Israel is on shaky ground imo. We give them 4 billion a year in peacetime, at least. Here we are post-terror wars, post-Afghan, in the midst of a public opinion swing against funding Ukraine, which is tied to domestic strife of several very non-trivial flavors, a desertion of enlistment by traditional folk, financial clouds, China on the horizon, basiclly everything but locust. What happens when the blush of the current thing is off the rose? What happens when it's not just me asking what exactly is the benefit to the US of all this money and possibly all these US body bags? What happens is that Israel is obliged to stand alone in a sea of adversity because the Brits are gone and the French are gone, and if the Americans go there's no more imperial big dog. So are you sure you want to put the squeeze on the US at this moment in history?

I ask again. How exactly does it benefit the US to back Israel? We give them money and weapons. A lot of money and weapons. And this could lead to much, much bigger things over there and things going boom at home. Plus the country is crumbling. What do we get in return? Why are we doing this?

In 30 days a whole lot more people that me will be asking this and it'll take more than today's vapid McPropaganda to quell. And it's a valid question.


Trump said it too

Obama is Muslim, and he controls Biden. Let that sink in
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 10:25:24 AM
And you think supporting Israel makes terrorist attacks in the US less likely given that Biden left the border wide open?

I think it makes it more likely.

What is the benefit to the US of supplying and supporting Israel?

It's like the fifth time I've asked. Apparently no one knows but you're all gung ho anyway.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 29, 2023, 10:27:50 AM
Hamas is using Crisis Actors.




“Hamas Crisis Actor pretends to be a victim of an Israeli air strike- appearing in a hospital bed while pretending to be in a critical condition as two supporting actors hold his hand.

In reality, the man is a Hamas musician and actor who has been appearing in various videos for the terror group.

One video he is seen celebrating in the streets as Hamas fire rockets towards Israel.

In another video he can be seen crying after claiming his apartment was hit by an airstrike.

And in another video he is seen singing while brandishing a gun while praising Hamas.“

Just bomb the Hamas Oscars and get them all together
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: oldschoolfan on October 29, 2023, 10:28:15 AM
i seriously doubt iran is gonna even attempt to strike one of our air craft strike groups they will get wiped out, amazes me how many morons there are on this forum iran isnt going to do shit. nor turkey or jordan or egypt. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 10:35:36 AM
i seriously doubt iran is gonna even attempt to strike one of our air craft strike groups they will get wiped out, amazes me how many morons there are on this forum iran isnt going to do shit. nor turkey or jordan or egypt.

Why are we there at all?

Even if you're right and they don't do anything it's still wildly expensive and that money could be used domestically or not stripped from the taxpayers at all.

Why are we there? How does it benefit us to be there?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 11:04:42 AM
So kind of like how no one could point to any concrete benefits to the US for spending over 100 billion dollars to fund Ukraine, but it was pretty easy to point to downsides like the risk of causing WW3, encouraging a Russia-China alliance along with other BRICS nations, and being 100+ billion poorer. But they told you it was the right thing to do. Morally right. Not right in the practical sense of actually strengthening your country instead of weakening it, or making it safer instead of more at risk.

Is this like that? It's the morally right thing? Making your country weaker and putting it at risk, and endangering and impoverishing your children in order to benefit another country is the morally right thing to do?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 29, 2023, 12:29:11 PM
And you think supporting Israel makes terrorist attacks in the US less likely given that Biden left the border wide open?

I think it makes it more likely.

What is the benefit to the US of supplying and supporting Israel?

It's like the fifth time I've asked. Apparently no one knows but you're all gung ho anyway.


If you ask The Loony Liberal Leftists on here they'll tell you Biden by allowing in Millions of unchecked illegals into the USA it helps protect American citizens
 ::)

I don't see any benefit to USA by getting involved it's smacks of they're
being told they have to get involved by their controllers.

Which People's / Religion / Can you Not say anything against without
all MSM & Puppet talking heads condemning yew ??

Hell there are even laws in some places against questioning the Holocaust
- Yet not any other mass Genocide. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on October 29, 2023, 01:45:07 PM
Why are we there at all?

Even if you're right and they don't do anything it's still wildly expensive and that money could be used domestically or not stripped from the taxpayers at all.

Why are we there? How does it benefit us to be there?

The US are there to assist in the push to cut oil supplies because There is only 6yrs left to cut emissions by half.

The benefit is it forces and validates the move to renewable energy and sustainability.

Again, when fuel hits US13/gallon the peasants won’t be driving much or consuming as much and you’ll see emissions drop like a lead balloon towards the target level.

The ME scenario is the 2nd inflationary wave which is the one that basically breaks people’s ability to consume crap from China. Once volumes drop prices will rip much harder than you’ve seen so far. Clothing can easily 4x from here in 6yrs.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 06:22:29 PM
Groups Behind Pro-Hamas Protests Funded by George Soros

Flat out someone needs to smoke this guy and his kid..

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/29/report-groups-behind-pro-hamas-protests-funded-george-soros/
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 29, 2023, 07:57:15 PM
Groups Behind Pro-Hamas Protests Funded by George Soros

Flat out someone needs to smoke this guy and his kid..

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/29/report-groups-behind-pro-hamas-protests-funded-george-soros/

The Israeli's are nigh on fearless. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on October 29, 2023, 10:45:14 PM
Groups Behind Pro-Hamas Protests Funded by George Soros

Flat out someone needs to smoke this guy and his kid..

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/29/report-groups-behind-pro-hamas-protests-funded-george-soros/

That evil Joo meddles and meddles. And agitates and agitates.

And ruins and ruins.

I want him and his bloodline dead.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 29, 2023, 10:47:23 PM
I am done with Trump. I don't care if he is locked up and the key is thrown away.

1: He peddled the vaccine. I will never take it. Fuck that!
2: He said crypto is a scam. Meanwhile, he has $millions in Ethereum. Hypocrite.
3: Trump claims: “Every single life that is lost in this conflict is on the shoulders of Hamas, Hamas alone, and I think you have to really add in the word Iran…,”

So if Israel now bombs and kills 10,000 or more women and children, is that on Hamas?! That's childlike thinking. So now if a criminal shoots and kills a family member, can we go and kill everyone that lives in the same city as the criminal and say it is the criminal's fault?! That is complete BS! Trump is Israel's Bitch - this is obvious! Fuck him!

https://www.rt.com/news/586135-trump-israel-hamas-good-evil/
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 29, 2023, 10:58:14 PM
I am done with Trump. I don't care if he is locked up and the key is thrown away.

1: He peddled the vaccine. I will never take it. Fuck that!
2: He said crypto is a scam. Meanwhile, he has $millions in Ethereum. Hypocrite.
3: Trump claims: “Every single life that is lost in this conflict is on the shoulders of Hamas, Hamas alone, and I think you have to really add in the word Iran…,”

So if Israel now bombs and kills 10,000 or more women and children, is that on Hamas?! That's childlike thinking. So now if a criminal shoots and kills a family member, can we go and kill everyone that lives in the same city as the criminal and say it is the criminal's fault?! That is complete BS! Trump is Israel's Bitch - this is obvious! Fuck him!

https://www.rt.com/news/586135-trump-israel-hamas-good-evil/

Move to Iran phaggit
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 11:15:54 PM
I am done with Trump. I don't care if he is locked up and the key is thrown away.

1: He peddled the vaccine. I will never take it. Fuck that!

Under Fauci’s recommendations

2: He said crypto is a scam. Meanwhile, he has $millions in Ethereum. Hypocrite.

who cares

3: Trump claims: “Every single life that is lost in this conflict is on the shoulders of Hamas, Hamas alone, and I think you have to really add in the word Iran…,”

He’s right. It was an unprovoked attack

So if Israel now bombs and kills 10,000 or more women and children, is that on Hamas?! That's childlike thinking. So now if a criminal shoots and kills a family member, can we go and kill everyone that lives in the same city as the criminal and say it is the criminal's fault?! That is complete BS! Trump is Israel's Bitch - this is obvious! Fuck him!

Israel dropped leaflets and warnings for innocents to get out of Gaza. Hamas wouldn’t allow them to leave. Hamas’ headquarters is literally 100ft below a working hospital with 300+ miles of tunnels. Hamas uses the innocent as human shields because they are cowards.

https://www.rt.com/news/586135-trump-israel-hamas-good-evil/

Level Gaza until all of Hamas is worm dirt and go deep.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 30, 2023, 12:18:33 AM
Level Gaza until all of Hamas is worm dirt and go deep.
There are over a million children in Gaza. So you think it is okay to wipe them all out to get Hamas? Note that Hamas was financed by Jews. You're getting played.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 30, 2023, 12:20:47 AM
Move to Iran phaggit
Fuck you cockroach! I could care less what happens to Israel or Ukraine. I care about what happens in USA. Tax payers have been sending Israel billions every year. How has that helped anybody in the USA, except for the elites? The USA is falling apart, almost bankrupt, homelessness, cities are cesspools. No fuck no! Wake up moron!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 30, 2023, 12:48:29 AM
Why are we there at all?

Even if you're right and they don't do anything it's still wildly expensive and that money could be used domestically or not stripped from the taxpayers at all.

Why are we there? How does it benefit us to be there?
Somebody needs to bring those millions of refugees back here.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on October 30, 2023, 12:59:43 AM
Somebody needs to bring those millions of refugees back here.
LOL. And so the cycle continues...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on October 30, 2023, 11:35:31 AM
And you think supporting Israel makes terrorist attacks in the US less likely given that Biden left the border wide open?

I think it makes it more likely.

What is the benefit to the US of supplying and supporting Israel?

It's like the fifth time I've asked. Apparently no one knows but you're all gung ho anyway.

I have not seen an unbiased evaluation weighing the positives and negatives of our support as to how it would affect the average American. Almost every argument about the support is just saying if you don't then you support the terrorists.

It is like when we invaded Iraq. Anyone who objects is unpatriotic or a commie. Only years later can anyone question the decisions of the authorities.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on October 30, 2023, 11:39:02 AM
Will there be a Thread about US attacking Syria as well?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 30, 2023, 12:06:11 PM
Anyone who condones the bombing of Gaza to eliminate Hamas just ask them one question

If Hamas were hiding in Israel would Israel be using the same tactics as they are in Gaza?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 30, 2023, 12:22:23 PM
Level Gaza until all of Hamas is worm dirt and go deep.

Coach watches CNN.

If he had a brain he would actually read articles stating Hamas was funded by isreal.

Coach is the same moron who thinks Iraq still has WMDs.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 30, 2023, 12:39:34 PM
Move to Iran phaggit

LOL  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 30, 2023, 01:20:21 PM
There are over a million children in Gaza. So you think it is okay to wipe them all out to get Hamas? Note that Hamas was financed by Jews. You're getting played.

No, it’s never okay and Hamas the cowards knows they can hide behind children, elderly and disabled then blame Israel for their deaths to gain support, but they need to eliminated once and for all.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 30, 2023, 01:23:59 PM
Coach watches CNN.

If he had a brain he would actually read articles stating Hamas was funded by isreal.

Coach is the same moron who thinks Iraq still has WMDs.

No one watches CNN. I suppose those pro Palistinian protests around the world are fake as well
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: BigRo on October 30, 2023, 01:27:07 PM
How many of the 5-7k dead in Gaza were Hamas terrorists?

Hamas hides out in tunnels, the fight with them has hardly even begun.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 30, 2023, 02:26:34 PM
How many of the 5-7k dead in Gaza were Hamas terrorists?

Hamas hides out in tunnels, the fight with them has hardly even begun.

The Jews don't care - Fact.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: oldschoolfan on October 30, 2023, 02:31:09 PM
I’ll laugh my ass off if tough talking Iran actually tries to attack a us air craft carrier strike group 

I bet there are some nuclear subs floating around out there Iran is a paper tiger they couldn’t even defeat iraq
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on October 30, 2023, 02:46:38 PM
How many of the 5-7k dead in Gaza were Hamas terrorists?

Hamas hides out in tunnels, the fight with them has hardly even begun.
israel won't stop until Palestinians hate Hamas more than they hate Israel

Israel is out numbered by muzzies 100 to 1. You need a good kdr
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: oldschoolfan on October 30, 2023, 03:28:33 PM
israel won't stop until Palestinians hate Hamas more than they hate Israel

Israel is out numbered by muzzies 100 to 1. You need a good kdr

According to Colin Powell when he was alive

Israel has 90 nukes and they are all aimed at iran
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 30, 2023, 03:39:56 PM
No one watches CNN. I suppose those pro Palistinian protests around the world are fake as well

So the pro Palestinian protests  all support Hamas?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on October 30, 2023, 03:44:36 PM
israel won't stop until Palestinians hate Hamas more than they hate Israel

Israel is out numbered by muzzies 100 to 1. You need a good kdr

Good that's great - Get them all to invade Israel & the blow all of them
& Israel to Fucking Bits.

So Fucked off hearing about Islam / Muslims & Israel/ Jews
Just Fucking Get Rid.
They're so similar yet hate each other.
And the rest of the world hates both of them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 30, 2023, 03:56:40 PM
I’ll laugh my ass off if tough talking Iran actually tries to attack a us air craft carrier strike group 

I bet there are some nuclear subs floating around out there Iran is a paper tiger they couldn’t even defeat iraq

You are missing the point. It's not that Iran is the greatest threat to international peace and security, it’s that they are being framed as such, and this has long been the aim of the US and Israel since they labelled Iran as part of the 'Axis of Evil' while attempting to use their military might to reshape the Middle East.

Israel has nuclear submarines off the coast of Iran. The US has a massive fleet of warships in the Gulf. Both countries have vast amounts of heavily armed aircraft, rockets, drones, ground forces, and intelligence networks identifying targets to hit. They know that if they attack, they need to destroy the regime entirely. Iran is aware of this too, and they have prepared accordingly by focusing on building the capacity to launch counter-attacks abroad with proxies.

War has been on the horizon for a while, but what was missing was a credible justification for initiating it. No doubt many are now attempting to use the situation in Palestine as that trigger for war, but do not kid yourself that we will be emerging from it unscathed.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 31, 2023, 12:47:51 AM
You are missing the point. It's not that Iran is the greatest threat to international peace and security, it’s that they are being framed as such, and this has long been the aim of the US and Israel since they labelled Iran as part of the 'Axis of Evil' while attempting to use their military might to reshape the Middle East.

Israel has nuclear submarines off the coast of Iran. The US has a massive fleet of warships in the Gulf. Both countries have vast amounts of heavily armed aircraft, rockets, drones, ground forces, and intelligence networks identifying targets to hit. They know that if they attack, they need to destroy the regime entirely. Iran is aware of this too, and they have prepared accordingly by focusing on building the capacity to launch counter-attacks abroad with proxies.

War has been on the horizon for a while, but what was missing was a credible justification for initiating it. No doubt many are now attempting to use the situation in Palestine as that trigger for war, but do not kid yourself that we will be emerging from it unscathed.
I doubt Israel uses nukes on Gaza. The weather would blow the fallout all over Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on October 31, 2023, 01:46:17 AM
I find it very odd, that many argue over Israel, Palestine, Hamas, etc...
Yet, the shitter admin tanks America and many are fine (or quiet) with it.  ::) ::) ::)

Virtue signals of peace... Lacking brains of piss... ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on October 31, 2023, 01:52:46 AM
I doubt Israel uses nukes on Gaza. The weather would blow the fallout all over Israel.

No, not Gaza. Although, one rabid extremist from Israel's Likud party did call for such an attack on her  Twitter account  (https://twitter.com/TallyGotliv/status/1711426284322996613)

'Only an explosion that shakes the Middle East will restore this country’s dignity, strength and security, [...] I urge you to do everything and use Doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies.'

Shows you the level of intellect we are dealing with. Israel has strategically placed nuclear submarines capable of striking Iran because, in Netanyahu's view, Iran must face a credible nuclear threat (https://www.timesofisrael.com/tehran-accuses-netanyahu-of-threatening-to-nuke-iran-in-general-assembly-speech/).
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 04:22:57 AM
No, it’s never okay and Hamas the cowards knows they can hide behind children, elderly and disabled then blame Israel for their deaths to gain support, but they need to eliminated once and for all.

Terrorists hiding behind women and children are assholes for sure. Of course they're assholes. They're fucking terrorists and murderers.

Of course, the people who are knowingly blowing up the women and children in hopes of hitting a terrorist aren't exactly good guys either.

World opinion is turning against Israel because they're killing tons of civilians. It'll turn against the US and lead to terror attacks if Biden (or someone who isn't a jellyhead) doesn't distance us from this atrocity.

No matter what happened before, nobody is going to accept that it's necessary to kill thousands (already) or tens of thousands of children.

If the Netanyahu administration thinks its a good strategy to be seen as genocidal maniacs then that's their business, but we can't be associated with that kind of shit. We're supposed to be the good guys. This is potentially the sort of thing people point to for decades afterward. It could permanently damage the US reputation.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 31, 2023, 04:49:34 AM
Terrorists hiding behind women and children are assholes for sure. Of course they're assholes. They're fucking terrorists and murderers.

Of course, the people who are knowingly blowing up the women and children in hopes of hitting a terrorist aren't exactly good guys either.

World opinion is turning against Israel because they're killing tons of civilians. It'll turn against the US and lead to terror attacks if Biden (or someone who isn't a jellyhead) doesn't distance us from this atrocity.

No matter what happened before, nobody is going to accept that it's necessary to kill thousands (already) or tens of thousands of children.

If the Netanyahu administration thinks its a good strategy to be seen as genocidal maniacs then that's their business, but we can't be associated with that kind of shit. We're supposed to be the good guys. This is potentially the sort of thing people point to for decades afterward. It could permanently damage the US reputation.



That’s easy for you to say as you sit safely in your house, typing on your computer ... with no dog in the fight.

You’re an armchair quarterback.

Now go do your lame, half-ass workout (if you work out)


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 31, 2023, 05:34:45 AM
Hopefully Israel has the decency not to attack on a Palestinian Holiday.🙏
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 05:36:28 AM


That’s easy for you to say as you sit safely in your house, typing on your computer ... with no dog in the fight.

You’re an armchair quarterback.

Now go do your lame, half-ass workout (if you work out)




Flail harder, man.

You know perfectly well that blowing up thousands of kids is unacceptable and that Israel needs to find another way to topple Hamas.

Also you never listed all the awesome benefits to US citizens of us spending hundreds of billions defending other people's countries.

Were you a fund Ukraine guy and you're upset there's diminished appetite to keep wasting money over there?

Hey have you heard of Nikki Haley? You might dig her.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 31, 2023, 05:40:47 AM
Flail harder, man.

You know perfectly well that blowing up thousands of kids is unacceptable and that Israel needs to find another way to topple Hamas.

Also you never listed all the awesome benefits to US citizens of us spending hundreds of billions defending other people's countries.

Were you a fund Ukraine guy and you're upset there's diminished appetite to keep wasting money over there?

Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Hamas wouldn’t hesitate to target civilians.

Israel is a 50 K a year GDP first world country. Do you think they want to do this? It’s the 4K a year Sand Dindus that can’t behave. No different from Ghetto Rats in this country.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 06:13:54 AM
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Hamas wouldn’t hesitate to target civilians.

Israel is a 50 K a year GDP first world country. Do you think they want to do this? It’s the 4K a year Sand Dindus that can’t behave. No different from Ghetto Rats in this country.

Hamas didn't hesitate to target civilians, which is what made everyone hate them. Not to armchair quarterback but Israel has managed to not just squander the political currency of worldwide sympathy in the space of 3 weeks. They've even managed to get people and nations condemning them for doing the same in far greater numbers.

Putting in the work to find and kill Hamas terrorists over a long period of time is definitely harder than just slaughtering everyone wholesale. But on the upside, no one calls you a war criminal.

I doubt a judge would dismiss my case if I shot some guy and his kid and my defense was "Yeah I killed them but they only make like $4,000 a year."


So we're past "Its not happening" and into "Yes it's happening and it's good." With regard to killing innocent people and kids. Kill 'em all. I'm the only guy here who says hell no to that. And who thinks it will put the US at risk to be involved because Grandpa Mumbles left the border open and theres like 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.

I say we bail out and Israel can justify its actions to the world without the US anywhere near them. They're strong. It's not like they'll be standing around naked in the desert in 12 months without US money.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 06:51:05 AM
Fine I'm a keyboard warrior but so are you guys and you're being full of it.

If you saw troops gunning down women and children you wouldn't say "Those must be the good guys."

Or dropping artillery on them. Muzzies or not, you guys wouldn't say it's fine if you walked over a sand dune and saw it. There's no way. Nobody could.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 31, 2023, 07:16:48 AM
Fine I'm a keyboard warrior but so are you guys and you're being full of it.

If you saw troops gunning down women and children you wouldn't say "Those must be the good guys."

Or dropping artillery on them. Muzzies or not, you guys wouldn't say it's fine if you walked over a sand dune and saw it. There's no way. Nobody could.

It’s a pet peeve of mine when people put you in a position to make a tough decision and then when make it they bitch. Don’t put me in the fucking position in the first place.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 07:29:39 AM
It’s a pet peeve of mine when people put you in a position to make a tough decision and then when make it they bitch. Don’t put me in the fucking position in the first place.

Alright already, I'll back off. I still say you guys, coach, royalty, etc are better people than you're willing to admit.

It is fucking tough because vengeance is called for on behalf of the murdered Israelis. I'm insistent that it lands on the correct assholes.






Geez it's like a Shapiro podcast in here.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 31, 2023, 07:30:51 AM
would Israel be using the same tactics if Hamas was hiding in Israel?


Anyone?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 31, 2023, 09:15:56 AM
Interesting

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzDAaJFspQT/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: loco on October 31, 2023, 09:38:12 AM
Interesting

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzDAaJFspQT/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

He will be suicided.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 10:06:19 AM
Damn. I wish I was descended from famous guy in a magical book in which is transcribed the very Word of God.

Everywhere you go, someone questions you. Whip out the book.

No moral conundrums. No doubt. God's own disinformation debunk is in your hip pocket.

"Sir this coupon expired 4 years ago." Oh yeah? Have you seen my book?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 31, 2023, 10:19:00 AM
Terrorists hiding behind women and children are assholes for sure. Of course they're assholes. They're fucking terrorists and murderers.

Of course, the people who are knowingly blowing up the women and children in hopes of hitting a terrorist aren't exactly good guys either.

World opinion is turning against Israel because they're killing tons of civilians. It'll turn against the US and lead to terror attacks if Biden (or someone who isn't a jellyhead) doesn't distance us from this atrocity.

No matter what happened before, nobody is going to accept that it's necessary to kill thousands (already) or tens of thousands of children.

If the Netanyahu administration thinks its a good strategy to be seen as genocidal maniacs then that's their business, but we can't be associated with that kind of shit. We're supposed to be the good guys. This is potentially the sort of thing people point to for decades afterward. It could permanently damage the US reputation.

Going according to their playbook.

That's exactly what Hamas wants.

As far as Hamas is concerned, the more civilians that die and the more videos and photos of death and destruction of Palestinians, the better for them.

As mentioned earlier, it's the same tactics used by other terrorist or 'freedom fighter' groups, they want to provoke a response so they can use it as propaganda to get sympathy and to politically isolate their enemy.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 31, 2023, 10:28:03 AM
Hamas rocket and missile attacks of peace.

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20IDF%20Battle%20Map%20October%2030%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Southern%20Israel%20Battle%20Map%20October%2030%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 11:22:45 AM
Going according to their playbook.

That's exactly what Hamas wants.

As far as Hamas is concerned, the more civilians that die and the more videos and photos of death and destruction of Palestinians, the better for them.

As mentioned earlier, it's the same tactics used by other terrorist or 'freedom fighter' groups, they want to provoke a response so they can use it as propaganda to get sympathy and to politically isolate their enemy.

Maybe. I've heard the theory but nothing to support it by way of names, previous examples by Hamas or affiliated shitheads, no follow up assaults on rescue workers to really rise the fire. Idk ths timeline on the 7th but they didn't press their advantage or try to backfoot the IDF by raiding elsewhere. No boobys. My impression is that they shot everyone they saw and ran away. It smells like a short thought plan.

It's certainly possible that they had a larger plan but there's also a tendency to credit bad guys with supernatural abilities without proof.

At this stage, I think it's equally likely a bunch of murderous idiots launched a rapidly planned raid and got lucky. Or a hardcore group that expected action on the anniversary saw that a lack of coordination was going to let the day slip by, so they quickly formed plan B or had it in reserve in their sub-ranks. That would account for why Israeli intelligence got general rumblings but no alarms or dates.


I caught the film I, Tonya on tele the other night. Tonya Harding and the Nancy Kerrigan knee whack thing in the 90s. In a nutshell, peripheral morons undertook violence for chump change and marginal relevance because their lives were garbage. The world is full of idiots and factions comprised of them.

The formation of Israel suffered from crazy factionalism. Some Zionists despised Ben-Gurion. Every political party has internal power struggles. It seems likely Hamas does too. Maybe it was a faction looking to make a name for themselves.

A nice tidy narrative is comfy but I doubt it's a grand scheme hatched by evil geniuses in a perfectly regimented organization. Seems likely there's all sorts of chaos in their ranks. Maybe that could be exploited.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on October 31, 2023, 11:52:38 AM
Maybe. I've heard the theory but nothing to support it by way of names, previous examples by Hamas or affiliated shitheads, no follow up assaults on rescue workers to really rise the fire.

It's certainly possible that they had a plan but there's also a tendency to credit bad guys with supernatural abilities without proof.

At this stage, I think it's equally likely a bunch of murderous idiots launched a rapidly planned raid and got lucky. Or a hardcore group that expected action on the anniversary saw that a lack of coordination was going to let the day slip by, so they quickly formed plan B or had it in reserve in their sub-ranks. That would account for why Israeli intelligence got general rumblings but no alarms or dates.


I caught the film I, Tonya on tele the other night. Tonya Harding and the Nancy Kerrigan knee whack thing in the 90s. In a nutshell, peripheral morons undertook violence for chump change and marginal relevance because their lives were garbage. The world is full of idiots and factions comprised of them.

The formation of Israel suffered from crazy factionalism. Some Zionists despised Ben-Gurion. Every political party has internal power struggles. It seems likely Hamas does too. Maybe it was a faction looking to make a name for themselves.

A nice tidy narrative is comfy but I doubt it's a grand scheme hatched by evil geniuses in a perfectly regimented organization. Seems likely there's all sorts of chaos in their ranks. Maybe that could be exploited.

I strongly disagree.

It is the standard playbook of all 'liberation movements'. From the North Vietnamese, Algerians, and black African movements, they have coordinated and deliberate policies and strict discipline of cadres enforced by violence. 

They know what they are doing.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 12:03:37 PM
I strongly disagree.

It is the standard playbook of all 'liberation movements'. From the North Vietnamese, Algerians, and black African movements, they have coordinated and deliberate policies and strict discipline of cadres enforced by violence. 

They know what they are doing.

I'm owned. I don't know anything about those groups.

Why not press forward or reinforce success? It seems like they could have done more damage. Or at least plant some boobytraps for medical guys if you really want to rouse Israeli ire?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 31, 2023, 01:06:23 PM
People like the nutcase in the video are like Hamas on steroids, which is evident even if you haven't devoted a substantial amount of time studying them. There's no other group even remotely this nutty, genocidal, and obsessed with conquest, annihilation, and revenge motivated by fantasy and mythology.

They're pushing their "Gog/Magog" war that is entirely scripted from their writings and has nothing to do with prophesy or being chosen above Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Arabs, Asians etc.... Stupid, crazy, and as evil as it gets.

The US should have nothing to do with these lunatics, much less being run by them.

And this rabbinical buffoon is not an outlier:



Video:   https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1719228389473845617 (https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1719228389473845617)

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in other news...


This fellow is going to prison because he raped someone that counted as a human being(someone of his tribe).



While he was busy raping, Prime Minister Ehud Barak was visiting Epstein island.,,,dozens of times!!!!!!!



https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/)



"Nation of priests", "you're blessed if you bless them"...why do gentiles fall for this utter nonsense.


(https://i.postimg.cc/VNCxCrYt/F9w-MDDAbg-AAp-MW.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 31, 2023, 02:04:53 PM
would Israel be using the same tactics if Hamas was hiding in Israel?


Anyone?
ahem
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 31, 2023, 02:15:29 PM
It's not as though it is a matter of the Jews can do nothing wrong but that the mooslimes refuse to do anything right.  Fuck islime.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Moontrane on October 31, 2023, 02:45:00 PM
People like the nutcase in the video are like Hamas on steroids, which is evident even if you haven't devoted a substantial amount of time studying them. There's no other group even remotely this nutty, genocidal, and obsessed with conquest, annihilation, and revenge motivated by fantasy and mythology.

They're pushing their "Gog/Magog" war that is entirely scripted from their writings and has nothing to do with prophesy or being chosen above Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Arabs, Asians etc.... Stupid, crazy, and as evil as it gets.

The US should have nothing to do with these lunatics, much less being run by them.

And this rabbinical buffoon is not an outlier:

Video:   https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1719228389473845617 (https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1719228389473845617)

-----------------------------
in other news...

This fellow is going to prison because he raped someone that counted as a human being(someone of his tribe).

While he was busy raping, Prime Minister Ehud Barak was visiting Epstein island.,,,dozens of times!!!!!!!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/)

"Nation of priests", "you're blessed if you bless them"...why do gentiles fall for this utter nonsense.


(https://i.postimg.cc/VNCxCrYt/F9w-MDDAbg-AAp-MW.jpg)

One of the three judges who convicted Moshe Kastav is an Arab, who now is on the Israeli supreme court.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 31, 2023, 02:50:22 PM
Human shields….
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 31, 2023, 03:32:53 PM
Human shields….

Yes exactly. Hamas puts themselves in the most civilian-dense areas. The civilians better quickly learn to kill Hamas members. It’s the safest end to this war.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on October 31, 2023, 03:42:36 PM


Looks like the plan is to flatten Gaza completely and distribute the Palestinians all over Europe and Canada

The narrative at the moment is worldwide sympathy with thye people in Gaza which will enable full compliance with countries accepting them as refugees
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: webstar on October 31, 2023, 03:45:16 PM
Yes exactly. Hamas puts themselves in the most civilian-dense areas. The civilians better quickly learn to kill Hamas members. It’s the safest end to this war.

Yes, that one supposed commander in a refugee camp.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 31, 2023, 04:01:18 PM


Looks like the plan is to flatten Gaza completely and distribute the Palestinians all over Europe and Canada

The narrative at the moment is worldwide sympathy with thye people in Gaza which will enable full compliance with countries accepting them as refugees

And then Israel and their associates in Europe and America will call White people racist pieces of shit unless they admit all Arabs and Muslims, that they currently support murdering, into people of European descent's lands.. and will actively participate in putting them there ...in addition to destablizing the middle east and having White people pay and fight for that destabilization.



Israel destabilizes the middle east......

associated groups facilitate flooding them into European lands....

 and the associated media calls Whites racist pieces of shit unless they take in the people Israel is mass murdering the children of.


Patriotic America-first people would be containing Muslims and Arabs to Muslims and Arab lands instead of spreading them all over the US and European lands.



The HIAS Jews for Refugees is co-sponsored by 50 different Jewish congregations and orgs.  These federations of 100000000000% Jewish groups work night and day to put refugees into Europe while they support blowing them up in Gaza.


Barnum and Bailey put it best when they said a gentile Israel supporter is born every minute.


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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 31, 2023, 04:07:05 PM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 31, 2023, 04:09:31 PM
(https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1697215241136287.gif)


You should pick the side that doesn't end up with Arab and Muslim refugees flooding into Europe and the US.

That doesn't mean you have to care for either group.

Israel is sending them to Europe and the Us by destablizing the middle east along with the US suckers fighting their neocon associated wars.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on October 31, 2023, 04:10:10 PM

You should pick the side that doesn't end up with Arab and Muslim refugees flooding into Europe and the US.

That doesn't mean you have to care for either group.
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on October 31, 2023, 04:13:00 PM
(https://cdn.jewishboston.com/uploads/2017/05/550988798_1280x720-729x486.jpg)

So you dont want Palestinians bombed out of their lands and spread all over Europe and the US.

You've picked a side.

Supporting Israel is why the #1 boy's name in England is Mohammad.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on October 31, 2023, 05:03:31 PM
ahem

Asking that question makes you an anti-semite.   ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 31, 2023, 05:18:41 PM


Looks like the plan is to flatten Gaza completely and distribute the Palestinians all over Europe and Canada

The narrative at the moment is worldwide sympathy with thye people in Gaza which will enable full compliance with countries accepting them as refugees

In other words, the various countries in the Middle East want nothing to do with the Palestinians
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on October 31, 2023, 05:25:12 PM
So you dont want Palestinians bombed out of their lands and spread all over Europe and the US.

You've picked a side.

Supporting Israel is why the #1 boy's name in England is Mohammad.

Soon you will probably blame Israel for the crisis on the US southern border.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on October 31, 2023, 06:01:09 PM
In other words, the various countries in the Middle East want nothing to do with the Palestinians

This ^.  You sir are correct.  For those that feel rather than think, I say this:

Arabs want nothing to do with other Arabs.  They are like the different tribes of Indians here in the early days of this land becoming America.  Constantly warring among one another. 

Allow Israel to wipe the Palestinians out and the rest of the Arab world would not care at all.

They would begin looking for a new sub-group of their kind to make their new bitches.  I tell people to vote for Mr. Trump to keep America safe for Americans.  When some worthless idiot tries to call me a racist I tell them to fuck off and die.  It makes no sense to try to speak to with a viper as you would with even a child.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 31, 2023, 06:16:14 PM
In other words, the various countries in the Middle East want nothing to do with the Palestinians

Palestinians are primarily rejects from Syria and Egypt. Why would those countries want them back? Let them be the Jews problem.

A rule of thumb is that if you’re a favored group of Leftists, you’re the drizzling shits. The same people supporting Palestinians believe Ahmed Aubrey was really out jogging rather than looking for shit to steal.😂
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 31, 2023, 09:03:14 PM
Going according to their playbook.

That's exactly what Hamas wants.

As far as Hamas is concerned, the more civilians that die and the more videos and photos of death and destruction of Palestinians, the better for them.

As mentioned earlier, it's the same tactics used by other terrorist or 'freedom fighter' groups, they want to provoke a response so they can use it as propaganda to get sympathy and to politically isolate their enemy.
If that's Hamas' tactic they learned it from Ukraine.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on October 31, 2023, 09:07:33 PM
Damn. I wish I was descended from famous guy in a magical book in which is transcribed the very Word of God.

Everywhere you go, someone questions you. Whip out the book.

No moral conundrums. No doubt. God's own disinformation debunk is in your hip pocket.

"Sir this coupon expired 4 years ago." Oh yeah? Have you seen my book?
That's BS. All humans originated from a Solar Nebula dust cloud. People who think they are the chosen ones are clueless. And many atheist Jews don't believe in that fairy tale, it's Christians that do.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 01, 2023, 01:27:56 AM
That's BS. All humans originated from a Solar Nebula dust cloud. People who think they are the chosen ones are clueless. And many atheist Jews don't believe in that fairy tale, it's Christians that do.
Atheist Jews are the worst. Example: Sarah Silverman
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 01, 2023, 05:53:37 AM
That's BS. All humans originated from a Solar Nebula dust cloud. People who think they are the chosen ones are clueless. And many atheist Jews don't believe in that fairy tale, it's Christians that do.

Move to Iran Phaggit
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on November 01, 2023, 10:04:35 AM
Move to Iran Phaggit
(https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1696872845721332.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 01, 2023, 10:47:33 AM
Violent Israeli forces bodyslam and punch Orthodox Jews.


Video: Video: Video: https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719749832418505217 (https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719749832418505217)



Elsewhere:


These anti-Semites are against America's greatest ally:

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZsq4S5S/F93-Ih-5-WAAEMwn-C.jpg)



The mask is off. Megalomaniacal psychopath says "kill them all" because Jews are the center of the world now:

https://twitter.com/MauricePinay/status/1719725061672731056
 (https://twitter.com/MauricePinay/status/1719725061672731056)



Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on November 01, 2023, 11:34:21 AM
Violent Israeli forces bodyslam and punch Orthodox Jews.


Video: Video: Video: https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719749832418505217 (https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719749832418505217)



Elsewhere:


These anti-Semites are against America's greatest ally:

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZsq4S5S/F93-Ih-5-WAAEMwn-C.jpg)



The mask is off. Megalomaniacal psychopath says "kill them all" because Jews are the center of the world now:

https://twitter.com/MauricePinay/status/1719725061672731056
 (https://twitter.com/MauricePinay/status/1719725061672731056)
those super Jews are israel's welfare queens and draft dodgers
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 01, 2023, 12:04:14 PM
those super Jews are israel's welfare queens and draft dodgers

I'm most fond of those that wear the shtreimel.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on November 01, 2023, 05:48:56 PM
Palestine POV

https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1719327842444411344
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Flexacon on November 01, 2023, 06:41:10 PM
those super Jews are israel's welfare queens and draft dodgers

These particular super Jews are my local Jews. They are British/Londoners so I'm not sure if they can be considered draft dodgers. Welfare queens is however still accurate.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 02, 2023, 06:49:18 AM
If Trump came out and said that killing children isn't the American way, then threw Netanyahu under the bus ("maybe he went crazy, folks") instead of the whole nation of Israel, the left wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind. Now they have to say Trump is correct and it takes the wind out of the sails of all these vexatious prosecutions.

It makes Biden too late to the please-be-careful-where-you-bomb party. MAGA Americans won't follow Biden's agenda over Trump's condemnation of Netanyahu. It costs Trump zero votes.

Then Trump pivots to the wastefulness of Biden funding Ukraine, the Hunter corruption, and the documents which prove that Establishment Washington tried to push him into war with Iran, just like they're doing now, which means your children die too. Trump claims the high moral ground and shows that MAGA > the deepstate war machine, which means Trump beats Biden as well as any establishment asshole who steps in for Biden.

But he has to make this announcement before Newsom beats him to a microphone.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 02, 2023, 08:51:10 AM
The psychotic "Never forget what Amalek did to you" refrain is used to rally fellow psychopaths whenever they want to rationalize committing genocide against "the other", including all Europeans.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W41cLf6b/F98-Cl2-Gag-AEAT2-D.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 02, 2023, 08:52:44 AM
Move to Iran Phaggit

LOL   :D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 02, 2023, 12:26:40 PM
Move to Iran Phaggit
LOL - Phuk you!!!  ;D 8) :P

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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 02, 2023, 12:27:50 PM
The mask is off. Megalomaniacal psychopath says "kill them all" because Jews are the center of the world now:

https://twitter.com/MauricePinay/status/1719725061672731056
 (https://twitter.com/MauricePinay/status/1719725061672731056)
That's fucked up! She comes across as a fucking witch.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on November 02, 2023, 12:43:01 PM
That's BS. All humans originated from a Solar Nebula dust cloud. People who think they are the chosen ones are clueless. And many atheist Jews don't believe in that fairy tale, it's Christians that do.

You're acting as if "Solar Nebula dust cloud", is just like a dust bunny. You have no ability to truly comprehend what that is, nor do I or anyone else. It's like thinking because you have a globe in your room you know what the earth is actually like. The cosmos is more amazing and impressive than any description of god found in the bible. Yes the bible is absurd, but it was smart in a time when the world was small, when you live in a truly endless cosmic expanse you can't dismiss the idea of god.

My point is religion ain't going anywhere. But yeah I agree the jews in theory should fuck off with that zionist shit.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening now. We need Israel as an ally against Iran.





Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on November 02, 2023, 01:16:06 PM
The psychotic "Never forget what Amalek did to you" refrain is used to rally fellow psychopaths whenever they want to rationalize committing genocide against "the other", including all Europeans.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W41cLf6b/F98-Cl2-Gag-AEAT2-D.png)
So if a bunch of Kazakhstani's flooded into Russia and raped and murdered 30,000 Ruskies, they'd just roll over and take it?

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 02, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
So if a bunch of Kazakhstani's flooded into Russia and raped and murdered 30,000 Ruskies, they'd just roll over and take it?

Watch this video and see the irony:

The video shows rapists and murderers from 1948 openly admitting they raped and murdered:


Video:   https://twitter.com/OwenBenjamin/status/1719942463325139156 (https://twitter.com/OwenBenjamin/status/1719942463325139156)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on November 02, 2023, 02:29:12 PM
Watch this video and see the irony:

The video shows rapists and murderers from 1948 openly admitting they raped and murdered:


Video:   https://twitter.com/OwenBenjamin/status/1719942463325139156 (https://twitter.com/OwenBenjamin/status/1719942463325139156)
A guy who could get a rod in 1948 was born 1935, I don't give a shit about the actions of 88 year olds.

This is about current year muslims, wanting to wipe Israel off the fact of the Earth.

I really don't care about what happened to your grandparents.

These Muslim kids supporting Hamas weren't even born back when their parents cheered for 911.

The Islamic world has gotten dumber since 2001. Tells you a lot of how the world actually is.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 02, 2023, 03:39:36 PM
A guy who could get a rod in 1948 was born 1935, I don't give a shit about the actions of 88 year olds.

This is about current year muslims, wanting to wipe Israel off the fact of the Earth.

I really don't care about what happened to your grandparents.

These Muslim kids supporting Hamas weren't even born back when their parents cheered for 911.

The Islamic world has gotten dumber since 2001. Tells you a lot of how the world actually is.

You’re wasting your breath. Gaza has a higher population growth rate than the United States. Yet dipshits go on about genocide.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 02, 2023, 04:44:24 PM
A guy who could get a rod in 1948 was born 1935, I don't give a shit about the actions of 88 year olds.

This is about current year muslims, wanting to wipe Israel off the fact of the Earth.

I really don't care about what happened to your grandparents.

These Muslim kids supporting Hamas weren't even born back when their parents cheered for 911.

The Islamic world has gotten dumber since 2001. Tells you a lot of how the world actually is.
Hamas was financed by Israel. The attack gives them an excuse to get rid of Gaza. Israel does not want a Palestinian region in Israel.

Look at this post by Megalodon.


By Shapiro's logic, Shapiro also wants to wipe Israel off the map.

Below: Playing both sides like Mordechai Levy starting his own "Nazi" group so he could fight against it.


VIDEO: Ron Paul on how Israel started Hamas: https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1711609139804418127
 (https://twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1711609139804418127)

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(https://i.postimg.cc/MG7y64wm/F8-Da-L2-VXs-AA-U2-C.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTCHVq1Q/F8-Da-L2-YW4-AACNOg.jpg)

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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 02, 2023, 04:54:22 PM
You're acting as if "Solar Nebula dust cloud", is just like a dust bunny. You have no ability to truly comprehend what that is, nor do I or anyone else. It's like thinking because you have a globe in your room you know what the earth is actually like. The cosmos is more amazing and impressive than any description of god found in the bible. Yes the bible is absurd, but it was smart in a time when the world was small, when you live in a truly endless cosmic expanse you can't dismiss the idea of god.

My point is religion ain't going anywhere. But yeah I agree the jews in theory should fuck off with that zionist shit.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening now. We need Israel as an ally against Iran.
We (USA) don't need Israel. It's a scam. But the US is bankrupt. At some point, it will collapse as an empire. And then we'll see how it all turns out.

Scientists know what a Solar Nebula is. It's a collection of hydrogen, helium, and dust. And also peppered with heavier elements forged in exploding stars. Nebulae are formed when supermassive stars explode. Our sun, the gas giants, planets, and moons formed via accretion around 4.571 billion years ago. A leading theory is that our moon is the result of a collision between Earth & Theia.

(https://scitechdaily.com/images/Supercomputer-Simulation-Moons-Origin.gif)

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/mysteries-of-the-solar-nebula

A few billion years ago, after generations of more ancient suns had been born and died, a swirling cloud of dust and gas collapsed upon itself to give birth to an infant star.

A few billion years ago, after generations of more ancient suns had been born and died, a swirling cloud of dust and gas collapsed upon itself to give birth to an infant star.

As the ball-shaped cloud fell inward it began to flatten and rotate, eventually resembling a spinning pancake. Mostly the stuff of the cloud was simple atoms of hydrogen and helium, but it was peppered here and there by more complicated elements forged in the internal furnaces and death explosions of older stars. Even as a new sun took shape at the center of the cloud, disturbances formed farther out. In a remarkably short time by astronomical standards -- "just" tens of millions of years, or less -- these whirlpools of matter condensed into planets.

Today that star system is home to an amazing diversity of environments -- from immense mountains and enormous, jagged canyons on rocky inner planets to sulfur volcanos and ice geysers on moons circling huge gas planets farther out from the star, their orbits crisscrossed by legions of comets and asteroids.

This is the story, astronomers tell us, of how the Sun, our Earth and the solar system that both of them occupy came to be. There is plenty of evidence from observations over many decades to establish the broad outlines of the story. But exactly how the placental cloud of dust and gas, called the "solar nebula," turned into the solar system that we see around us today still poses many mysteries for scientists.

One of the main ways that scientists approach the question of how the solar system formed is by comparing the elements and isotopes that made up the original cloud of dust and gas to the compositions of the planets, moons, asteroids and comets in the solar system today. (An isotope is a variation of an element that is heavier or lighter than the standard form of the element because each atom has more or fewer neutrons in its nucleus.) But what were the ingredients in the original solar nebula?

Fortunately, nature provides a fossil record of the solar nebula. Like other stars its size, the Sun has an outer atmosphere that is slowly but steadily flowing off into space. This material, consisting mostly of electrically charged atoms called ions, flows outward past the planets in a constant stream called the "solar wind." This wind is a snapshot of the materials in the surface layers of the Sun, which in turn reflects the makeup of the original solar nebula.

This is the rationale of the Genesis mission. By flying out beyond the interfering influences of Earth's magnetic fields, the spacecraft can collect samples of the solar wind revealing the makeup of the cloud that formed the solar system nearly 5 billion years ago.

Astronomers have long studied the Sun's composition by breaking down the Sun's color spectrum using instruments on telescopes and satellites. But these observations are not precise enough for today's planetary science. By analyzing the solar wind in terrestrial laboratories, Genesis scientists can find precise ratios of isotopes and elements in the solar nebula. The basic data gained from the Genesis mission are needed to advance theories about the solar nebula and evolution of the planets.

Genesis' main goal is to probe the mystery of oxygen in the solar system. The amounts of oxygen isotopes vary among the solar system bodies, though the reason for the variety is totally unknown. Different parts of the solar system have distinct proportions of three isotopes of oxygen called O16, O17 and O18. O16 is the most common form of an oxygen atom, containing eight protons and eight neutrons to add up to an atomic weight of about 16. O17 has one extra neutron, whereas O18 has two extra neutrons.

Though scientists know the ratio of oxygen isotopes in bodies like asteroids, Earth, the Moon and Mars, the ratio of oxygen isotopes in the Sun is not well-understood.

Genesis will provide this last puzzle piece to determine how the solar nebula evolved into the solar system bodies.

Understanding the origins of the variations of the oxygen isotopes is a key to understanding the origin of the solar system. Does any part of today's solar system contain the same ratios of these oxygen isotopes as what Genesis finds existed in the original solar nebula? Finding out how these isotope ratio differences survived will narrow the possibilities of how the different materials or regions of the nebula mixed or didn't mix.

As an example, reference the Pillars of Creation:

(https://www.cosmonity.com/cdn/shop/products/Obszarkompozycji6.jpg?v=1667384883)

(https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/stsci-01gfnn3pwjmy4rqxkz585bc4qh.png)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillars_of_Creation#:~:text=The%20pillars%20are%20composed%20of,four%20light%20years%20in%20length.

The pillars are composed of cool molecular hydrogen and dust that are being eroded by photoevaporation from the ultraviolet light of relatively close and hot stars. The leftmost pillar is about four light years in length.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 02, 2023, 04:56:53 PM
and the sun will burn out in 5 billion years

Whats your point?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on November 02, 2023, 09:00:58 PM
We (USA) don't need Israel. It's a scam. But the US is bankrupt. At some point, it will collapse as an empire. And then we'll see how it all turns out.

Scientists know what a Solar Nebula is. It's a collection of hydrogen, helium, and dust.



I know what asia is, it's a collection of countries and people's, divided up among several major nations. Including India, China, Japan and Iran. I could start citing random stats about religions/histories etc, I've never been there, what I know is still a tiny spec of what actually is occurring in Asia. 

Knowing a whole lot is still knowing next to nothing in the context of the universe.

Science is so obsessed with explaining a thing, that it doesn't explain the value of the thing. What is the value of an accretion disc, is it's purpose only the end result and value to humanity? i.e. is it only valuable once we can get there and colonize the thing?

My point is something like the Pillars of creation isn't just a thing, it's something on the level of cosmic art.

Cosmic art on that scale is divine, regardless of whether or not it's a bearded man or just a soulless infinity. It's like going to Rome and seeing the architecture and shrugging. You can do what you want with your life, but I think it's ignorant on some level.

A soulless infinity is more than sufficient to be a rational equivalent to god. Lots of science nerds think this way anyway, they just want to be smug about it and pretend they are just engaging in scientific inquiry, or some other wanker nonsense. Whether or not infinity is watching you personally wack off to gangbang porn is irrelevant. The soulless infinity that doesn't think about you, is just as important as the one judging you for masturbating.

Regardless of whether or not you want to believe in god or the soulless infinity represents the god you want to have, it is the god that exists.

 








Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on November 02, 2023, 09:10:25 PM
We (USA) don't need Israel. It's a scam. But the US is bankrupt. At some point, it will collapse as an empire. And then we'll see how it all turns out.


You'll find empires die a lot quicker when they stop defending the fringes of the empire. The Greco-Romans who manufactured the bible put Israel at the heart of our civilization for a reason. The Muzzies took the eastern edge of the Mediterranean and they never gave it back until we took it back for the Jews.

Instability and a lack of control over the middle east is exactly the thing that could collapse western civilization and bring about an Islamic dark age. Europe needs that oil, if Saudis Arabia/Iran have a control on that region, and they have millions of their people already floating around in europe it's only a matter of time before Opec starts dictating the religious rights of Muslins living in London, Paris, Rome.

America kept Europe out of the dirt after the rise of Stalin, handing Europe over to OPEC is pretty much a trainwreck for civilization.



Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 02, 2023, 11:33:22 PM
Someone explain to me why Israel and mossad wants to support Hamas again?

Cliffs
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 03, 2023, 01:54:06 AM
Someone explain to me why Israel and mossad wants to support Hamas again?

Cliffs

Because if there is peace, they will be expected to make concessions ie. the two state solution.  The right wingers/hawks in Israel don't want that.  Sadly for Israel and it's supporters, the lack of a two state solution will lead to the inevitable non existence of Israel as a Jewish state.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 03, 2023, 02:07:27 AM
Because if there is peace, they will be expected to make concessions ie. the two state solution.  The right wingers/hawks in Israel don't want that.  Sadly for Israel and it's supporters, the lack of a two state solution will lead to the inevitable non existence of Israel as a Jewish state.

Yeah, because they’re doing so badly compared to their Sand Dindu neighbors. This is the real reason Libtards hate the country. It’s an example of free market success in an area where there is none:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

 It has the second-largest number of startup companies in the world after the United States,[27][needs update]and the third-largest number of NASDAQ-listed companies after the U.S. and China.[28] American companies, such as Intel,[29] Microsoft,[30] and Apple,[31][32] built their first overseas research and development facilities in Israel. More than 400 high-tech multi-national corporations, such as IBM, Google, Hewlett-Packard, Cisco Systems, Facebook and Motorola have opened R&D centers throughout the country.[33]
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 03, 2023, 05:14:46 AM
Yeah, because they’re doing so badly compared to their Sand Dindu neighbors. This is the real reason Libtards hate the country. It’s an example of free market success in an area where there is none:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

 It has the second-largest number of startup companies in the world after the United States,[27][needs update]and the third-largest number of NASDAQ-listed companies after the U.S. and China.[28] American companies, such as Intel,[29] Microsoft,[30] and Apple,[31][32] built their first overseas research and development facilities in Israel. More than 400 high-tech multi-national corporations, such as IBM, Google, Hewlett-Packard, Cisco Systems, Facebook and Motorola have opened R&D centers throughout the country.[33]

I can’t speak for other “libtards” but I hate Israel bc it’s an apartheid state that regularly commits war crimes.  I don’t give a shit about any economic success the country may or may not have.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 03, 2023, 05:27:23 AM
Because if there is peace, they will be expected to make concessions ie. the two state solution.  The right wingers/hawks in Israel don't want that.  Sadly for Israel and it's supporters, the lack of a two state solution will lead to the inevitable non existence of Israel as a Jewish state.

An independent Palestinian state would be the beginning of the end for Israel.

Currently Israel has full access to the West Bank and the Palestinian Authority has no conventional military.

If the West Bank becomes independent it will be infiltrated and armed by Iran, Hezbollah and every other terrorist group in the region.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 03, 2023, 05:28:20 AM
Someone explain to me why Israel and mossad wants to support Hamas again?

Cliffs

Controlled opposition.

Uncliffs

I still say a faction is responsible for the attack. They didn't know they were supposed to be controlled opposition. It was pretty half assed, as bad as it was, but it wasn't sustained, there was no second wave, no coordination with Hezballz, etc.

Netanyoohoo's intel guys should wedge open the crack, elevate Achmed in exchange for Muhammad in a Behold The Monster op to satisfy sheep and demonstrate King Bibi's competence, and rebrand the guys who play ball as The Palestinian People's Circle Jerk of Liberty or whatever.

Bibi seems more keen on attrition tho. Not so politically savvy imo but he probably has neocons ticking his balls.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 03, 2023, 05:29:39 AM
Because if there is peace, they will be expected to make concessions ie. the two state solution.  The right wingers/hawks in Israel don't want that.  Sadly for Israel and it's supporters, the lack of a two state solution will lead to the inevitable non existence of Israel as a Jewish state.

Thanks Abe

I always thought you were black, but you are jewish right?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 03, 2023, 05:34:15 AM
Blacks can be Jewish.

SDJr.
Wiggs
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 03, 2023, 05:34:37 AM
As an independent Palestinian state this area would be armed with conventional armed forces, and probably filled with Iranian and Hezbollah militants and covered with modern missile systems aimed at Israel.

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/West%20Bank%20Battle%20Map%20November%202%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 03, 2023, 05:37:13 AM
I can’t speak for other “libtards” but I hate Israel bc it’s an apartheid state that regularly commits war crimes.  I don’t give a shit about any economic success the country may or may not have.

You hate Israel because it’s a Leftists pet cause. Otherwise you wouldn’t give a fuck one way or the other.

But why don’t you tell us about genocide. Oh wait, population growth rate and life expectancy there is higher than all other countries in the area.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 03, 2023, 05:40:34 AM
As an aside, another dagger for the Covid marks:


https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/moderna-revenue-tops-expectations-expects-return-sales-growth-2025-2023-11-02/

Concerns around waning demand for COVID vaccines and anticipation of a loss this year has led to a 60% drop in the company's shares year to date. The stock on Thursday plunged as much as 18% to a three-year low of $62.55 in early trade before trimming some of those losses.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 03, 2023, 05:51:19 AM
Imagine when "Meh, collateral casualties" doesn't cut the mustard, Muzzies unite, and the US yet again spends more trillions in the lameassed Middle East.

Imagine MAGA guys cheering on Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham as they further bankrupt their kids and send them overseas to die.


I'll take Israel over Islam but I wouldn't spend US money or lives on it. Good luck. Let us know how it all works out.

But we're there. And someone takes a shot at us. Or maybe we just say they do. Hang on to your butts.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 03, 2023, 06:11:07 AM
You hate Israel because it’s a Leftists pet cause. Otherwise you wouldn’t give a fuck one way or the other.

But why don’t you tell us about genocide. Oh wait, population growth rate and life expectancy there is higher than all other countries in the area.

Where did I mention genocide?  ???
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 03, 2023, 07:41:47 AM
Then all my antivaxxers moved to Israel. And just like that...

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lioxkid0Kv1qhd0uho1_500.gif)

The greatest trick the deepstate ever pulled was getting people to support something that doesn't benefit them at all, simply because the other side opposes it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 03, 2023, 09:22:29 AM
Thanks Abe

I always thought you were black, but you are jewish right?

I'm neither but keep that on the down low. 😉
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 03, 2023, 09:39:17 AM
Another day, another horrendous war crime committed by the IDF  :-X

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/3/several-killled-in-israeli-attack-on-ambulance-convoy-gaza-health-ministry

Quote
Several people have been killed and dozens of others wounded in an Israeli attack on an ambulance convoy near the al-Shifa hospital in the besieged Gaza Strip, according to the Palestinian health ministry.

A convoy of ambulances was transporting critically wounded patients from al-Shifa hospital to the Rafah border crossing with Egypt when it was targeted in an Israeli attack on Friday, said Ashraf al-Qudra, a spokesman for the health ministry in Gaza.

“We informed the Red Cross and the Red Crescent, we informed the whole world, that those victims were lined up in those ambulances,” he said.

“This was a medical convoy.”

The Israeli military said it was looking into the report.

This is a developing story. More to follow.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Goliathon on November 03, 2023, 11:47:53 AM
Imagine when "Meh, collateral casualties" doesn't cut the mustard, Muzzies unite, and the US yet again spends more trillions in the lameassed Middle East.

Imagine MAGA guys cheering on Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham as they further bankrupt their kids and send them overseas to die.


I'll take Israel over Islam but I wouldn't spend US money or lives on it. Good luck. Let us know how it all works out.

But we're there. And someone takes a shot at us. Or maybe we just say they do. Hang on to your butts.

It's pretty much the opposite.

Israel has to mow down a few dozen villages, to ensure that people understand allying with iran means war crimes are not a thing.

We nuked Hiroshima to end a war, what can we do to prevent one.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 03, 2023, 11:57:30 AM
Yeah, because they’re doing so badly compared to their Sand Dindu neighbors. This is the real reason Libtards hate the country. It’s an example of free market success in an area where there is none:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

 It has the second-largest number of startup companies in the world after the United States,[27][needs update]and the third-largest number of NASDAQ-listed companies after the U.S. and China.[28] American companies, such as Intel,[29] Microsoft,[30] and Apple,[31][32] built their first overseas research and development facilities in Israel. More than 400 high-tech multi-national corporations, such as IBM, Google, Hewlett-Packard, Cisco Systems, Facebook and Motorola have opened R&D centers throughout the country.[33]

Libturdz, comical how brainless they are....
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on November 03, 2023, 12:31:20 PM
As an independent Palestinian state this area would be armed with conventional armed forces, and probably filled with Iranian and Hezbollah militants and covered with modern missile systems aimed at Israel.

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/West%20Bank%20Battle%20Map%20November%202%2C2023.png)
Modern systems as in Russian or Chinese?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 03, 2023, 12:54:01 PM
Modern systems as in Russian or Chinese?

Yes.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 03, 2023, 12:58:24 PM
Because if there is peace, they will be expected to make concessions ie. the two state solution.  The right wingers/hawks in Israel don't want that.  Sadly for Israel and it's supporters, the lack of a two state solution will lead to the inevitable non existence of Israel as a Jewish state.

Palestine doesn't want a two state solution, so what Israel wants is moot.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 03, 2023, 04:33:50 PM
The reason Jews are in Israel is because Europe didnt want them after the war

FACT
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 03, 2023, 05:18:21 PM
Palestine Israel doesn't want a two state solution, so what Israel Palestine wants is moot.

Your serve.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 03, 2023, 05:46:28 PM
The reason Jews are in Israel is because Europe didnt want them after the war

FACT

Nobody wants them in any other country .
Just the same as Mooslime's they're not wanted even in other Islamic countries.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 03, 2023, 06:01:55 PM
It's pretty much the opposite.

Israel has to mow down a few dozen villages, to ensure that people understand allying with iran means war crimes are not a thing.

We nuked Hiroshima to end a war, what can we do to prevent one.

Ok. Then there's no reason for the US to spend its money and resources to support Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 03, 2023, 07:22:56 PM
Ok. Then there's no reason for the US to spend its money and resources to support Israel.

Theres massive oil and gas reserves within Gaza and off the coast, and US wants that to be controlled by Israel.

You can read about it here:
https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 04, 2023, 01:22:56 AM
Theres massive oil and gas reserves within Gaza and off the coast, and US wants that to be controlled by Israel.

You can read about it here:
https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf
There is always a hidden agenda.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 04, 2023, 02:51:27 AM
Then all my antivaxxers moved to Israel. And just like that...

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lioxkid0Kv1qhd0uho1_500.gif)

The greatest trick the deepstate ever pulled was getting people to support something that doesn't benefit them at all, simply because the other side opposes it.

Why would we do that when Israel was the Guinea pig for the Vax? The current percent of the population that is boosted is 3%. So at this point everyone in an antivaxxer.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 04, 2023, 02:57:03 AM
The reason Jews are in Israel is because Europe didnt want them after the war

FACT

Germany is the strongest economy is the Eurozone. France is #2. Look up Greece and Spain:

It’s even more impressive when you consider the amount of resources they have to devote to security:

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 04, 2023, 02:57:47 AM
Germany
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 04, 2023, 04:34:45 AM
I try to disregard most of the stupid links and conspiracy theories posted by the familiar nematodes of the forum, but some of these really make me shake my head in disbelief.

It’s as though some of you are worried that you're going to get called a 'libturd' for stating that Israel is deliberately and unjustly bombing a civilian population and guaranteeing a rise of terrorism around the world. What is it that we are so fond of saying? Facts don't care about feelings? Then grow some balls and state the facts. You're not the ones being paid or blackmailed to regurgitate bullshit, so feel free to remove your jingoist blinkers and look at things outside of an insular Democrat vs Republican framework. There's a whole world out there.

Not to personally attack Thin Lizzy, but to focus on one example of an otherwise decent poster, as far as I can recall, making some of the most absurd points I've ever read here.

Yeah, because they’re doing so badly compared to their Sand Dindu neighbors. This is the real reason Libtards hate the country. It’s an example of free market success in an area where there is none:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel


Thin Lizzy, and I'm sure he's not alone, wants to derogate from a peremptory norm of international law and murder civilians on the basis of the victims being poor and less successful than Israel economically—as an occupied state under unlawful blockade, without control over their resources, let's not forget.

The indigenous population are therefore morally irrelevant and anyone defending them is obviously doing so out of a pathological desire to support 'leftist' ideologies like international law and basic rights, haha.

These arguments, if one is even willing to call them that, are utterly incoherent. I am genuinely baffled as to why someone would defenestrate every ounce of integrity merely to excuse the inexcusable and avoid being categorized as some sort of BLM-supporting kiddie fiddler in a dress and high heels.

This is not a particularly complex issue. Certainly not with regard to understanding history and current intent.

As stated in the UNCTAD report (https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf), in 1967, when Israel occupied the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem, it 'annexed Palestinian markets in these areas into its own economy, in a selective, unequal and asymmetrical manner.' Prior to the occupation, it was a lower-middle-income economy. Of course they are going to be performing terribly across economic growth indicators, lol.

As to the supposedly erroneous labelling of genocide, again, look at the facts.

Over the past few weeks, the Health Ministry in Gaza (which is known to be reliable) reported approximately  9200 people killed (https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143107), at least 3800 of them being children.

Israel is not even attempting to hide its genocidal intent. Distinction, proportionality, and military necessity are fundamental principles governing conduct in war, and Israel has completely disregarded them in favor of quoting biblical scripture as they bomb civilians and destroy Gaza's infrastructure.

So, who is warning about potential genocide? Well, over 800 scholars and practitioners of international law (https://opiniojuris.org/2023/10/18/public-statement-scholars-warn-of-potential-genocide-in-gaza/), conflict studies and genocide studies have signed a public statement warning of the possibility of genocide being perpetrated in Gaza. Signatories include prominent Holocaust and genocide studies scholars.

Hundreds of USAID officials have signed a letter (https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/11/03/usaid-gaza-cease-fire-israel-airstrike-hamas/) calling on the Biden administration to push for 'an immediate ceasefire and cessation of hostilities.' It also called for the US to join the international community in 'holding all parties, including the State of Israel, to international law.'

United Nations human rights official, Craig Mokhiber, resigned over what he described as a 'text-book case of genocide (https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/10/31/un-official-resigns-genocide-palestine-israel/)' in Gaza.

Josh Paul, the now former director of congressional and public affairs for the State Department’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs has resigned over  (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/19/us/state-department-official-resigns-israel-arms.html)the Biden administration’s 'blind support for one side', which was leading to policy decisions that were 'short-sighted, destructive, unjust and contradictory to the very values we publicly espouse.'

Various UN special rapporteurs have called for an immediate ceasefire (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/un-experts-demand-ceasefire-warn-gaza-is-running-out-of) and said that the Palestinian people 'are at grave risk of genocide.'

Bolivia has cut official ties with Israel over its disproportionate use of force. Mexico, Brazil, Colombia and Chile called for a ceasefire, with the latter two recalling their ambassadors. Pakistan's upper house of parliament just passed a unanimous resolution condemning Israel's war crimes. Russia called for a ceasefire. China called for a ceasefire. The African Union called for a ceasefire. The Arab states have obviously called for a ceasefire. It goes on and on:  most of the world is calling for an immediate ceasefire and for humanitarian aid to be delivered to the dying civilian population. Israel has ignored them.

Prosecuting war crimes (e.g. collective punishment, genocide, etc.) under international law can be particularly difficult due to the complexities involved (such as proving specific intent, among other things). Justifying these crimes, however, especially by citing birth rates and other such nonsense, is untenable, embarrassing, and those attempting to do so are simply divorced from reality.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 04, 2023, 04:39:10 AM
Germany is the strongest economy is the Eurozone. France is #2. Look up Greece and Spain:

It’s even more impressive when you consider the amount of resources they have to devote to security:



Not as of late, the loss of cheap Russian gas has crippled their industries.

Quote
ESSEN, Germany -- For most of this century, Germany racked up one economic success after another, dominating global markets for high-end products like luxury cars and industrial machinery, selling so much to the rest of the world that half the economy ran on exports.

Jobs were plentiful, the government's financial coffers grew as other European countries drowned in debt, and books were written about what other countries could learn from Germany.

No longer. Now, Germany is the world’s worst-performing major developed economy, with both the International Monetary Fund and European Union expecting it to shrink this year.

It follows Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the loss of Moscow's cheap natural gas — an unprecedented shock to Germany’s energy-intensive industries, long the manufacturing powerhouse of Europe.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/global-ideal-germanys-economy-struggles-energy-shock-exposing-103300208
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 04, 2023, 04:44:22 AM
I try to disregard most of the stupid links and conspiracy theories posted by the familiar nematodes of the forum, but some of these really make me shake my head in disbelief.

It’s as though some of you are worried that you're going to get called a 'libturd' for stating that Israel is deliberately and unjustly bombing a civilian population and guaranteeing a rise of terrorism around the world. What is it that we are so fond of saying? Facts don't care about feelings? Then grow some balls and state the facts. You're not the ones being paid or blackmailed to regurgitate bullshit, so feel free to remove your jingoist blinkers and look at things outside of an insular Democrat vs Republican framework. There's a whole world out there.

Outstanding post, far too good to be posted here  ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 05:05:14 AM
Rocket attacks fired at Israel from the Gaza Strip, 2001-2021:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Rocket_Attacks_fired_at_Israel_from_the_Gaza_Strip_by_year.png/1600px-Rocket_Attacks_fired_at_Israel_from_the_Gaza_Strip_by_year.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 04, 2023, 05:24:04 AM
Outstanding post, far too good to be posted here  ;D

Thank you, haha. I'm full of the cold, so I had nothing better to do than respond to our Getbig brothers.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 05:36:34 AM
Since October 7th, more than 8000 rockets have been fired at Israel, with over 300 rockets fired every day.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/over-8000-rockets-fired-at-israel-250000-civilians-evacuated-from-their-homes-idf/articleshow/104937424.cms
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 05:41:38 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Fh2MYWcAAW7ML?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Fh2MhWIAAAyMq?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Fh2MZXcAANUDh?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Fh2MXWYAAHH-r?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 04, 2023, 05:52:17 AM
Why would we do that when Israel was the Guinea pig for the Vax? The current percent of the population that is boosted is 3%. So at this point everyone in an antivaxxer.

I dont mean people physically moved to Israel. I mean that antivax Republicans are now supporting Israel's actions. I have to say no any country killing civilians and kids by the thousands so I'm not with you guys on this one.

I suspect it has to do with a lot of Republicans being Christian. But if Republicans are back to approving funding for other country's wars then MAGA is dead. All the America First guys haven't got a word to say as Biden pisses away US resources in defense of Israel. Wtf yo.

You guys complained, correctly, as Biden looted the country to fund Ukraine on the grounds that there are issues at home which should absolutely take priority. And that picking a fight that has no upside for US citizens isn't the way to go. Explain to me how none of that reasoning applies when it's time to fund Israel?

In two weeks they'll be telling me to Support The Troops who shouldn't even be over there. Then something bad will happen because we angered the Muzzies and they'll all cheer for expansion of the surveillance state. Fucking Groundhog day.

In b4 Royalty tells me to move to Iran. Why don't you move to DC. You can put on a rah rah skirt and blow uniparty warmongers irl.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 04, 2023, 06:02:30 AM
I dont mean people physically moved to Israel. I mean that antivax Republicans smart mutafukkers are now supporting Israel's actions. I have to say no any country killing civilians and kids by the thousands so I'm not with you guys on this one.


The "anti-vax" libturd term is hilarious.   ::)

"We're gonna (try to) label you something negative if you dont let us experiment on you without repercussion or held liable."     ::) ::) ::)

Dumb fukking libturd kvnts  ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 04, 2023, 06:08:30 AM
The "anti-vax" libturd term is hilarious.   ::)

"We're gonna (try to) label you something negative if you dont let us experiment on you without repercussion or held liable."     ::) ::) ::)

Dumb fukking libturd kvnts  ::)

They should definitely stay boosted as far as I'm concerned.

I disagree that the US should support Israel in any material way. They're always crowing about they have a right to defend themselves. So do it. It has nothing to do with us and Trump was correct when he said we shouldn't pay for other country's defense.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: loco on November 04, 2023, 06:11:19 AM
Jewish Viewers Find a Refuge in Fox News

Fox News, long a preferred source of news for the right, has lately become an information refuge for American Jews who believe that the mainstream media has been too hostile to Israel.

It’s somewhat of an improbable alliance. Jews overwhelmingly identify as Democrats.
And as the Republican Party came to embrace a more populist brand of politics that vilifies “globalist” corporate interests and wealthy liberal financiers like George Soros — something many see as coded antisemitism — Fox News hosts and guests promoted those views.

But more than any of the major cable news channels — and perhaps more than any other major American media outlet — Fox News has wrapped itself in the Israeli flag in the weeks since the Hamas attack. Its coverage tends to emphasize the radical and antisemitic elements of the pro-Palestinian opposition, particularly on college campuses, while playing down the civilian casualties from Israeli strikes.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/jewish-viewers-refuge-fox-news-174918953.html
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 04, 2023, 06:12:16 AM
Jellyhead Joe is going to send US troops to die over there.

Fuck that. And FJB.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: loco on November 04, 2023, 06:16:12 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 06:30:15 AM
Hamas’s Strategy Depends on Maximizing Palestinian Civilian Casualties

Hamas achieved a huge success on October 17, when an uncertain number of Palestinian civilians died in an explosion at Gaza’s Al-Ahli Hospital. Much of the world erupted in outrage against Israel when Hamas blamed it and said that more than 500 civilians had been killed. This was one of only two major successes for Hamas in this war so far, the first being the surprise attack that kicked the conflict off, in which Hamas killed over 1,300 Israelis, raped many women, and took over 150 hostages.

Let’s set aside for a moment what actually happened at the hospital. First, consider this strange question: How can mass death of Palestinian civilians count as a Hamas success? The answer is that Hamas’s strategy hinges on producing such casualties and blaming Israel for them. This helps clarify why Hamas started this war.

Hamas, an Islamist group, describes itself as the arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. It is the religiously extreme vanguard of the Palestinian revolution, aspiring to destroy Israel and “liberate” Palestine on the way to reviving an Islamic caliphate.

From Hamas’s perspective, its revolution is in danger.

Egypt made peace with Israel in 1979. Jordan did so in 1994. The Abraham Accords countries — Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates — normalized relations with Israel in 2020. And Saudi Arabia appears on the verge of doing so soon. These developments contradict the notion that the Palestinian issue is the heart of Arab politics and the key to solving the region’s problems. The Arab states increasingly show disdain for Palestinian leaders, who are widely seen to be corrupt, incompetent, and retrograde. As a result, the Palestinian cause has lost sympathy and strength. A Saudi peace deal with Israel could deliver a death blow to Hamas’s idea of the Palestinian revolution.

Can Hamas leaders take the prospect of such a deal lying down? Obviously not. But what are their options? They have no economic leverage, no conventional military threat, and no diplomatic power. A large-scale attack on Israel is their only chance to salvage their revolution. They know they can’t defeat Israel altogether, but they might be able to achieve two aims: to spark mass uprisings by Arabs and Muslims in Israel, the region, and the world, and to bring down on Israel’s head a torrent of denunciation from non-Arabs and non-Muslims around the world.

That is Hamas’s best hope of derailing a Saudi–Israeli peace deal, and thus of saving its cause. It would please Iran, which is Hamas’s patron, and it would establish that Hamas, not the Palestinian Authority, is the Palestinians’ true leader.

But all of this hinges on outraging public opinion in the Arab world and around the rest of the globe. That’s why Hamas invented its unprecedented strategy. It is not merely using Palestinian civilians as human shields. Rather, it maximizing civilian casualties among its own people. This is brand-new in the history of war — and it is an innovation that the world should discourage, not reward.

Hamas leaders know that when they attack Israel, they require it to defend itself. They have ensured that, in doing so, Israel must do harm to Palestinian civilians. They have arranged this systematically over years by placing rocket launchers, ammunition stocks, command centers. and personnel in and under schools, commercial offices, apartment buildings, and hospitals. This guarantees that Palestinian civilians will suffer damage and death even though Israel does not target civilians and, like the United States, takes rigorous measures to prevent civilian casualties.

Which brings us back to the Al-Ahli Hospital. When the explosion occurred there, news outlets worldwide reported that the cause was an Israeli airstrike against the hospital, and that 500 or more Palestinian civilians had been killed. Large pro-Hamas crowds rallied angrily in Amman, Beirut, Tehran, and elsewhere around the world. U.S. officials told Americans not to visit Lebanon and closed a diplomatic post in Turkey. Jordan’s foreign minister announced that Arab leaders would refuse to attend a summit meeting with President Biden that had been scheduled in Amman.

Hours after the explosion, investigations by Israeli and American officials determined that Hamas’s casualty figures were too high, the explosion had happened in a parking lot, not the hospital itself, and the culprit was a Palestinian group, not Israel. What caused the explosion, President Biden said, was an “errant rocket fired by a terrorist group.” But the false accusation against Israel had already served its purpose. Hamas leaders were implementing their strategy. To Hamas, it doesn’t matter whether Palestinian civilian casualties are real or just perceived, as long as they produce anti-Israel fury.

The perverse strategy of harming Israel by harming Palestinian civilians is bad for Israel but worse for the Palestinians. If people around the world grasped that Hamas aims to maximize, not minimize, harm to its own civilians, they would assign blame to Hamas, not Israel. People who want to protect civilians during wartime should refuse to play the role assigned them in Hamas’s strategy, which would then fail and be abandoned.

https://www.hudson.org/terrorism/hamas-strategy-depends-maximizing-palestinian-civilian-casualties-douglas-feith#:~:text=National%20Review-,Hamas's%20Strategy%20Depends%20on%20Maximizing%20Palestinian%20Civilian%20Casualties,conflict%20in%20a%20different%20light.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 06:42:17 AM
How Hamas uses hospitals as shields during war

The terror group's use of medical facilities as military sites in contravention of international law has been documented for years.

Hamas has commanded a network of tunnels and terror infrastructure in the Gaza Strip since it took control there in 2007. The Iranian-backed Palestinian terrorist organization uses civilian areas, including hospitals, to store and launch rockets and spread propaganda. In violation of international law, Hamas also uses hospitals to hide command centers and shield operatives.

Firing rockets from near hospitals is Hamas doctrine

Storing weapons near civilian sites, including hospitals, is part of Hamas’s doctrine. A NATO report examining Hamas activities between 2008 and 2014 found that they fire “rockets, artillery, and mortars from or in proximity to heavily populated civilian areas, often from or near facilities which should be protected.” Journalists from numerous media outlets, including the Financial Times, have provided eyewitness testimony of rockets launched from near hospitals.

Hamas built a command center underneath Shifa hospital

For years, Hamas has been using a bunker underneath Dar Al-Shifa Hospital, the largest hospital in Gaza, as a base of military operations. During the 2009 conflict between Israel and Hamas, Israeli intelligence officials suspected the hospital was being used for cover. According to the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, Hamas “closed off some of the departments, stationed armed guards and closely examined everyone in the hospital. … Ismail Haniyeh, head of the de facto Hamas administration, set up his headquarters in the hospital’s burn ward.” Hamas has also insisted on conducting interviews in Shifa’s courtyard, using wounded patients as props for propaganda.

Hamas has hidden under Shifa since 2007

In 2007, a doctor in Shifa Hospital said, “The medical staff are suffering from fear and terror, particularly of the Hamas fighters, who are in every corner of the hospital.” Former Israeli intelligence chief Avi Dichter said in 2009 that Hamas commanders even at times wear doctor’s robes. The same year, PBS said it “reached a doctor in Gaza who believes Hamas officials are hiding either in the basement or in a separate underground area underneath the hospital.” By 2014, the hospital had become a “de-facto” command center for Hamas.

Journalists have documented the use of the hospital by Hamas over the years. One foreign journalist said Hamas’s use of Shifa is an open secret, but reporters in Gaza are refuse to report about it out of fear for their personal safety.

Hamas used hospitals in its 2014 war on Israel

In 2014, the conflict between Israel and Hamas spotlighted how Hamas made use of hospitals as part of its strategy. “In Hamas’s world, hospitals are command centers, ambulances are transport vehicles and medics are human shields,” the Israel Defense Forces said. This was a flagrant violation of international law.

Hamas used al-Wafa Hospital for military purposes

Al-Wafa Hospital in the Shajaiyeh neighborhood of Gaza City was turned into a command center, rocket-launching site and observation post, according to the IDF in 2014. “Hamas repeatedly opened fire from hospital windows and [launched] anti-tank missiles from the premises. Hamas deliberately and cynically turned the hospital into a legitimate military target.”

When the IDF carried out a precision airstrike near the hospital, it first called to warn their administrators. Video released during the 2014 conflict showed Hamas launching rockets next to the hospital. The IDF claimed the hospital has been “a hotbed of terrorists activities, with gun and anti-tank missile fire originating from the site.”

Hamas uses hospitals for propaganda

On Oct. 18, 2023, a rocket fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad struck a parking lot near Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City. Hamas rushed to blame Israel, claiming that more than 500 had been killed. Investigations by Israel, U.S. intelligence and major media concluded that the claims by Hamas were false. Hamas used the incident to blame Israel.

The manipulation behind the al-Ahli Hospital incident is part of the wider media war by Hamas to use civilians in Gaza to score points. This includes inflating death tolls in Gaza and spreading misinformation.

Hamas commits abuses at hospitals

A 2007 Human Rights Watch report recounted how Hamas executed a rival Fatah member and his two sons at a hospital in Beit Hanun. In 2008, The New York Times reported in gory detail how Hamas murdered six suspected collaborators in a 24-hour span. In 2014, Palestinian reporter Radjaa Abu Dagga said he was taken for questioning by Hamas to Al-Shifa hospital. His passport was taken and he was prohibited from leaving the Gaza Strip.

Hamas interrogates and tortures at hospitals

Fatah also accused Hamas of using the hospital’s x-ray department as a prison and interrogation room. Amnesty International wrote in 2015 that civilians were “interrogated and tortured or otherwise ill-treated in a disused outpatient’s clinic within the grounds of Gaza City’s main al-Shifa Hospital. At least three people arrested during the conflict accused of ‘collaboration’ died in custody.”

Hamas also uses ambulances for terrorism

Hamas has also used ambulances during the course of the war as part of its operations. The use of ambulances not only denies civilians who are injured the use of the ambulance but also puts at risk medical workers if terrorists use the ambulance in the course of their activities.

https://nationalpost.com/news/hamas-hospitals-israel
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 04, 2023, 06:56:38 AM
Rocket attacks fired at Israel from the Gaza Strip, 2001-2021:

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Rocket attacks fired at Israel from the Gaza Strip, 2001-2021:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Rocket_Attacks_fired_at_Israel_from_the_Gaza_Strip_by_year.png/1600px-Rocket_Attacks_fired_at_Israel_from_the_Gaza_Strip_by_year.png)

Wow, that’s an impressive graph.  Surely this massive volume of rockets must have resulted in a large Israeli casualty count, right?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 07:12:32 AM
What is a human shield and how has Hamas been accused of using them?

The international criminal court defines the war crime of using human shields as “utilising the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations”.

One interpretation of this is that it would be a war crime to fire weapons and to position bases in proximity to heavily populated civilian areas, in particular near facilities that should be protected according to the Geneva conventions, including schools, hospitals or mosques.

Anecdotal and other evidence does suggest that Hamas and other factions have used civilian objects including hospitals and schools. Guardian journalists in 2014 encountered armed men inside one hospital, and sightings of senior Hamas leaders inside the Shifa hospital have been documented.

During the 2014 conflict the UN reported weapons were found inside two UN schools and there have been numerous reports of Palestinian armed factions in Gaza firing rockets and other weapons from close to protected civilian locations. It is also clear that Hamas has operated from residential buildings.

Hamas’s attitude towards civilians during conflict in Gaza often appears cynical at best. After five conflicts with Israel since 2008, Hamas is well aware of the high potential for civilian deaths in fighting with Israeli forces – and has instrumentalised those fatalities in its messaging to the world.

In statements over the years Hamas has made clear it sees the civilian death toll as inevitable and useful.

In 2014, the Hamas spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhari told al-Aqsa TV: “Hamas despises those defeatist Palestinians who criticise the high number of civilian casualties. The resistance praises our people … we lead our people to death … I mean, to war.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/human-shield-israel-claim-hamas-command-centre-under-hospital-palestinian-civilian-gaza-city
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 04, 2023, 07:22:17 AM
Wow, that’s an impressive graph.  Surely this massive volume of rockets must have resulted in a large Israeli casualty count, right?

He's citing articles written by Douglas Feith, the infamous Jewish lobbyist (on the board of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs) and neoconservative warmonger who is often described as being 'the architect of the Iraq war.' He was part of the Bush administration, and the group who created a non-existent link between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda, then distributed dubious intelligence assessments that contradicted official CIA reports.

General Tommy Franks once described him as 'the dumbest fucking guy on the planet.' He's also been under consideration for investigation of possible war crimes since 2009. Not really surprising Feith is trying to exculpate Israel from the crime of bombing a hospital.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 04, 2023, 07:29:18 AM
I try to disregard most of the stupid links and conspiracy theories posted by the familiar nematodes of the forum, but some of these really make me shake my head in disbelief.

It’s as though some of you are worried that you're going to get called a 'libturd' for stating that Israel is deliberately and unjustly bombing a civilian population and guaranteeing a rise of terrorism around the world. What is it that we are so fond of saying? Facts don't care about feelings? Then grow some balls and state the facts. You're not the ones being paid or blackmailed to regurgitate bullshit, so feel free to remove your jingoist blinkers and look at things outside of an insular Democrat vs Republican framework. There's a whole world out there.

Not to personally attack Thin Lizzy, but to focus on one example of an otherwise decent poster, as far as I can recall, making some of the most absurd points I've ever read here.

Thin Lizzy, and I'm sure he's not alone, wants to derogate from a peremptory norm of international law and murder civilians on the basis of the victims being poor and less successful than Israel economically—as an occupied state under unlawful blockade, without control over their resources, let's not forget.

The indigenous population are therefore morally irrelevant and anyone defending them is obviously doing so out of a pathological desire to support 'leftist' ideologies like international law and basic rights, haha.

These arguments, if one is even willing to call them that, are utterly incoherent. I am genuinely baffled as to why someone would defenestrate every ounce of integrity merely to excuse the inexcusable and avoid being categorized as some sort of BLM-supporting kiddie fiddler in a dress and high heels.

This is not a particularly complex issue. Certainly not with regard to understanding history and current intent.

As stated in the UNCTAD report (https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf), in 1967, when Israel occupied the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem, it 'annexed Palestinian markets in these areas into its own economy, in a selective, unequal and asymmetrical manner.' Prior to the occupation, it was a lower-middle-income economy. Of course they are going to be performing terribly across economic growth indicators, lol.

As to the supposedly erroneous labelling of genocide, again, look at the facts.

Over the past few weeks, the Health Ministry in Gaza (which is known to be reliable) reported approximately  9200 people killed (https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143107), at least 3800 of them being children.

Israel is not even attempting to hide its genocidal intent. Distinction, proportionality, and military necessity are fundamental principles governing conduct in war, and Israel has completely disregarded them in favor of quoting biblical scripture as they bomb civilians and destroy Gaza's infrastructure.

So, who is warning about potential genocide? Well, over 800 scholars and practitioners of international law (https://opiniojuris.org/2023/10/18/public-statement-scholars-warn-of-potential-genocide-in-gaza/), conflict studies and genocide studies have signed a public statement warning of the possibility of genocide being perpetrated in Gaza. Signatories include prominent Holocaust and genocide studies scholars.

Hundreds of USAID officials have signed a letter (https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/11/03/usaid-gaza-cease-fire-israel-airstrike-hamas/) calling on the Biden administration to push for 'an immediate ceasefire and cessation of hostilities.' It also called for the US to join the international community in 'holding all parties, including the State of Israel, to international law.'

United Nations human rights official, Craig Mokhiber, resigned over what he described as a 'text-book case of genocide (https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/10/31/un-official-resigns-genocide-palestine-israel/)' in Gaza.

Josh Paul, the now former director of congressional and public affairs for the State Department’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs has resigned over  (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/19/us/state-department-official-resigns-israel-arms.html)the Biden administration’s 'blind support for one side', which was leading to policy decisions that were 'short-sighted, destructive, unjust and contradictory to the very values we publicly espouse.'

Various UN special rapporteurs have called for an immediate ceasefire (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/un-experts-demand-ceasefire-warn-gaza-is-running-out-of) and said that the Palestinian people 'are at grave risk of genocide.'

Bolivia has cut official ties with Israel over its disproportionate use of force. Mexico, Brazil, Colombia and Chile called for a ceasefire, with the latter two recalling their ambassadors. Pakistan's upper house of parliament just passed a unanimous resolution condemning Israel's war crimes. Russia called for a ceasefire. China called for a ceasefire. The African Union called for a ceasefire. The Arab states have obviously called for a ceasefire. It goes on and on:  most of the world is calling for an immediate ceasefire and for humanitarian aid to be delivered to the dying civilian population. Israel has ignored them.

Prosecuting war crimes (e.g. collective punishment, genocide, etc.) under international law can be particularly difficult due to the complexities involved (such as proving specific intent, among other things). Justifying these crimes, however, especially by citing birth rates and other such nonsense, is untenable, embarrassing, and those attempting to do so are simply divorced from reality.

Blah blah blah. They attacked a country with a much bigger and stronger military and now they’re gonna bitch and call for a ceasefire when that country hits back.


And when I hear time and time again about genocide, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to point out that the Palestinian population is growing,  life expectancy is increasing, and the birth rates are very high.

These are facts not opinions.

Now, here’s an opinion. Had the Palestinians just worked with the Jews they would probably be much better off, benefiting from being next door to such a strong growing economy, but Sand Dindus gonna Sand Dindu.

It’s all bullshit anyway. There have been several wars taking place in the past five years: Syria, Yemen, Azerbaijan, Sudan, Ethiopia and others but I don’t hear a peep from the left about those. What’s so special about this particular group of people?


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 04, 2023, 07:42:01 AM
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Israel does not target civilians and, like the United States, takes rigorous measures to prevent civilian casualties.

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False as tranny tits but...

Why are these two countries in the same sentence? I bet Sweden doesn't target civilians either. Or Bolivia. What are the odds, out of all the countries who don't target civilians, the US and Israel are like peas in a pod according to the author.

It doesn't at all come.off as propaganda hoping to make you think these two entirely separate countries share some unique bond.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 07:58:47 AM
What visual evidence shows about the Gaza hospital blast

Videos analyzed by The Post reveal that rockets were launched from Gaza in the direction of the hospital 44 seconds before an explosion there.

Fighters in Gaza launched a barrage of rockets toward Israel and in the direction of al-Ahli Hospital 44 seconds before an explosion there that killed at least 100 people, according to a visual analysis by The Washington Post.

Video obtained from Israeli television channel Keshet 12 News allowed The Post to geolocate the origin of the barrage to a point southwest of the hospital in Gaza City, matching the rough location the Israeli military has alleged was the launch site of a misfired rocket that it said landed on the hospital grounds. Experts said rockets from that barrage would have been able to reach the hospital in time for the explosion.

The analysis of that and other videos, in addition to expert review of imagery of the blast site, provides circumstantial evidence that could bolster the contention by Israel and the U.S. government that a stray rocket launched by a Palestinian armed group was responsible for the Oct. 17 explosion.

At the same time, no visual evidence has emerged showing a rocket hitting the hospital grounds, and the evidence reviewed by The Post does not rule out the possibility that an unseen projectile fired from somewhere else struck the hospital grounds.

None of the more than two dozen experts consulted by The Post was able to say with certainty what kind of weapon struck the hospital grounds or who fired it. But munitions experts agreed that the damage at the hospital was consistent with a rocket strike. They said it was not consistent with an airstrike, which would have caused much greater destruction, or with an artillery strike, which would have left substantial fragments and probably not caused the massive fireball seen in videos.

In addition, The Post’s analysis found that a key video filmed and aired by Al Jazeera, which the Israeli and U.S. governments have cited as evidence that a rocket failed and landed on the hospital grounds, instead shows a projectile launching from a location miles away in Israel, near an apparent Iron Dome air-defense battery. Experts said that the widely circulated video probably showed an Iron Dome interceptor missile that collided with a rocket more than three miles from the hospital and most likely had nothing to do with the hospital explosion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/10/26/gaza-hospital-blast-evidence-israel-hamas/
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 04, 2023, 08:01:28 AM
Blah blah blah. They attacked a country with a much bigger and stronger military and now they’re gonna bitch and call for a ceasefire when that country hits back.


And when I hear time and time again about genocide, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to point out that the Palestinian population is growing,  life expectancy is increasing, and the birth rates are very high.

These are facts not opinions.

Now, here’s an opinion. Had the Palestinians just worked with the Jews they would probably be much better off, benefiting from being next door to such a strong growing economy, but Sand Dindus gonna Sand Dindu.

It’s all bullshit anyway. There have been several wars taking place in the past five years: Syria, Yemen, Azerbaijan, Sudan, Ethiopia and others but I don’t hear a peep from the left about those. What’s so special about this particular group of people?

Haha, when 'blah blah blah', 'sand dindus', and 'the left' is the caliber of response, there's obviously no point in attempting further discussion, so let me just end it stating that when approximately 10,000 people have just been bombed to death indiscriminately, it is not 'perfectly reasonable' to point out that the Palestinian population is growing. It's moronic.

So too is it moronic to think that an illegally occupied population, who have been the victims of a deliberate ethnic cleansing policy since Israel's inception, should have just worked with them to boost their economy.

As to your stubborn refusal to view this as anything other than an American Left vs Right issue, I am not from the US and I've been to a few of those countries you’ve listed. I doubt anyone sees this as some sort of opportunity to champion the Palestinians alone. It is about protecting basic principles of international law, human rights, and holding your government to account when they are not only lying to you, but acting against your interests once again by murdering thousands of children and risking the security of your country.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 04, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
they are just creating another "war on terror"

People have stopped watching, terrorists seem to have disappeared in the West

Time to stir the hornets nest and kick the eternal war machine into life to boost the Western Arms manufacturers coffers
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 04, 2023, 03:20:15 PM
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And you believe everything Israel / US / MSM say  ::)
Did you really ;earn Fuck all from the China Virus ScamDemic
& how Folk were Played & Blatantly Lied to.   ::)

Finding out the Truth & Facts of what is going on isn't by listening
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 04, 2023, 09:17:51 PM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 04, 2023, 11:36:11 PM
Haha, when 'blah blah blah', 'sand dindus', and 'the left' is the caliber of response, there's obviously no point in attempting further discussion, so let me just end it stating that when approximately 10,000 people have just been bombed to death indiscriminately, it is not 'perfectly reasonable' to point out that the Palestinian population is growing. It's moronic.

So too is it moronic to think that an illegally occupied population, who have been the victims of a deliberate ethnic cleansing policy since Israel's inception, should have just worked with them to boost their economy.

As to your stubborn refusal to view this as anything other than an American Left vs Right issue, I am not from the US and I've been to a few of those countries you’ve listed. I doubt anyone sees this as some sort of opportunity to champion the Palestinians alone. It is about protecting basic principles of international law, human rights, and holding your government to account when they are not only lying to you, but acting against your interests once again by murdering thousands of children and risking the security of your country.

Muslims ruled by the  sword for over 1000 years. Did you give a fuck about international law then? Pretty much every piece of land on the planet has been taken forcefully. Why is that you have such an obsession with this particular group of people? Because it’s a pet issue of the left. 21-year-old college dip shits who have  never done anything in life spend the whole day obsessing about these people.

The reason you’re so butthurt is because I called out your bullshit.



Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 05, 2023, 02:00:09 AM
Muslims ruled by the  sword for over 1000 years. Did you give a fuck about international law then? Pretty much every piece of land on the planet has been taken forcefully. Why is that you have such an obsession with this particular group of people? Because it’s a pet issue of the left. 21-year-old college dip shits who have  never done anything in life spend the whole day obsessing about these people.

The reason you’re so butthurt is because I called out your bullshit.

Haha, you called me on my bullshit? Sorry, I must have missed that. Please cite it again so I can address it for you. Pretty sure I initiated the dialogue by addressing your sub-par level of argumentation. Nice attempt at historical revisionism, though. You've clearly learnt from the best.

If being genuinely surprised and embarrassed by your childlike reasoning ability and willingness to defend the murder of women and children is 'butthurt', then yes, feel free to call it that. But try to address the substance of what I wrote as opposed to blindly clinging to the conclusion that everyone who disagrees with you is a 'leftist.'

I'm sorry I'm not able to travel back in time and give 11th-century caliphs a lecture on Enlightenment values. I can only deal with what's in front of me now, though I feel that would have been an easier task than trying to convince you of your hypocrisy.

Your comments in this thread are intellectually vacuous and full of contradictions, given your stances on other issues. All you've demonstrated is that you are happy to rant and rave for years when your government is violating your individual right to freedom, but unconcerned when they do it to people you don't like.

Such is your aversion to being wrong, you'd rather support state terrorism and dismiss every objection to it as quixotic left-wing fantasizing. Are the 800-odd academics and legal experts who signed the petition I linked all leftists? How about all of the politicians across the world who condemn this? All of the UN officials? All of the ex-military personnel? How about all of the IR realists who believe that blind support for Israel as they massacre a population is harmful to America and the UK?

You are every bit as blinded by tribalism and propaganda as the college kids you despise, only you don't have the extenuating benefit of youthful ignorance on your side. You're simply just terrified that your views on one issue might happen to align with someone who votes Democrat. There is nothing weaker than a man who's too scared to speak the truth. Be better, Thin Lizzy. It's not too late.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 05, 2023, 02:01:50 AM

what could be the reason for being expelled so many times ?

Jesus, these guys have been expelled more times than a young Brian Hankins  :D.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on November 05, 2023, 02:13:12 AM
These conflicts are all so tiresome.

Here's to hoping the West isn't dragged into this if it escalates with Iran and others jumping in to fight Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 05, 2023, 02:40:59 AM
These conflicts are all so tiresome.

Here's to hoping the West isn't dragged into this if it escalates with Iran and others jumping in to fight Israel.

I want it to escalate to such degree that most of the middle-east gets wiped out

I have no bone in this fight and prefer to analyze it from afar

Unfortunately there will be a lot of "fugees" coming from ME to Swe
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 05, 2023, 03:12:02 AM
Haha, when 'blah blah blah', 'sand dindus', and 'the left' is the caliber of response, there's obviously no point in attempting further discussion, so let me just end it stating...

You ever think he never wanted discussion with a looney leftist??
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 05, 2023, 03:21:19 AM
You ever think he never wanted discussion with a looney leftist??

I'm not a looney leftist, Dave, you gimp. I'm ex-military, support gun ownership, support killing terrorists, and work in the region. And yes, he's on a message board, posting in a thread literally labelled as 'discussion.' Either make a point or go back to writing shit poems about child rape.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 05, 2023, 04:23:15 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Rmj11 on November 05, 2023, 05:21:04 AM
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Umm...no thanks.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Marty Champions on November 05, 2023, 06:19:56 AM
If israel is actually a thing and the jew military a thing its time for an all out warr there or acctual peace


If high level intelligence were a thing and did there job as they do in america , the issraeli army should easily be able to handle this by locking the bastards up in a dungeon
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 05, 2023, 06:30:34 AM


If high level intelligence were a thing and did there job as they do in america


You want the Mossad to surveil Israeli civilians and interfere in elections?!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 05, 2023, 01:10:45 PM
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3,1,2,4
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 05, 2023, 01:13:56 PM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20IDF%20Battle%20Map%20November%204%2C2023.png)
This is where Ashkenazi Jews originated from. Not Israel. Now we know why Jews have a hardon for Ukraine / Crimea.

(https://geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/khaz.jpg)

(https://languagesoftheworld.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Khazaria_map_from_600_till_850.jpg)

https://www.languagesoftheworld.info/bad-linguistics/khazarian-hypothesis-nature-yiddish.html
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Flexacon on November 05, 2023, 01:15:52 PM
3,1,2,4

So you're banging the dude second over the females?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 05, 2023, 01:17:32 PM
3,1,2,4

Loved their MTV Unplugged version of 'Even Flow.'
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 05, 2023, 01:29:22 PM
So you're banging the dude second over the females?
Counter clock wise, front to back.

Here's my layout:

4 3
1 2

I thought 4 was female. My bad. Scratch that off the list. Final: 3,1,2

Greta is banged last. A nice hate fuck, probably the most pleasurable!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Flexacon on November 05, 2023, 01:55:13 PM
Counter clock wise, front to back.

Here's my layout:

4 3
1 2

I thought 4 was female. My bad. Scratch that off the list. Final: 3,1,2

Greta is banged last. A nice hate fuck, probably the most pleasurable!

No judgment if you want to include 4.

I actually really like 3. She has potential if she grows out of her liberal/eco warrior phase
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: beakdoctor on November 05, 2023, 02:02:43 PM

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lioxkid0Kv1qhd0uho1_500.gif)

The greatest trick the deepstate ever pulled was getting people to support something that doesn't benefit them at all, simply because the other side opposes it.

Underrated comment. I see it all the time. Everyone gets caught up in it too. Doesn't matter, left, right, issue or cause. Because of some perceived alliance or commonality which is really nothing more than connecting a series of unrelated dots.... you end up arguing online, with a total stranger, over something you have absolutely ZERO first hand knowledge of and doesn't even benefit you in anyway whatsoever. But that doesn't stop you from going all in on the issue and taking sides like it's life or death.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: beakdoctor on November 05, 2023, 02:04:20 PM
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A tranny, a retard and two lesbians walk into a bar.....
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Moontrane on November 05, 2023, 02:08:47 PM
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Is that octopus Greta's service animal?  I would think that she'd want something more environmentally friendly, like a rock.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Mayday on November 05, 2023, 02:29:44 PM
... you end up arguing online, with a total stranger, over something you have absolutely ZERO first hand knowledge of and doesn't even benefit you in anyway whatsoever. But that doesn't stop you from going all in on the issue and taking sides like it's life or death.

Once we got the internet and increased the speed of news/information we now argue over global politics rather than local council issues. The pleb control system works well.

A family member came over, marriage on the rocks, wife told him to leave only hours before. He is an 80 IQ guy, didn’t want to talk much about his scenario so he talked for 2yrs non-stop about Palestine and Israel……..
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 05, 2023, 02:39:28 PM
Once we got the internet and increased the speed of news/information we now argue over global politics rather than local council issues. The pleb control system works well.

A family member came over, marriage on the rocks, wife told him to leave only hours before. He is an 80 IQ guy, didn’t want to talk much about his scenario so he talked for 2yrs non-stop about Palestine and Israel……..
I would have asked him to leave and given him a length of rope to take with him
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 05, 2023, 03:20:30 PM
Once we got the internet and increased the speed of news/information we now argue over global politics rather than local council issues. The pleb control system works well.

A family member came over, marriage on the rocks, wife told him to leave only hours before. He is an 80 IQ guy, didn’t want to talk much about his scenario so he talked for 2yrs non-stop about Palestine and Israel……..

The MSM basically controls the subjects people talk about. Recently it was Covid, then Ukraine now it’s the Middle East. I’d be perfectly fine to never have a discussion about either.

That said, it gets tiresome for Leftists to pretend that their bizarre Fetish for a tiny group of Arabs isn’t part of a Marxist agenda.

That’s why they get pissed off when I point out things like life expectancy and income per capita. Their sociology professors didn’t tell them how to respond.

“Genocide? The Life expectancy in Gaza is higher than that of Iran and Russia.”

“Did I say genocide? I meant to say ethnic cleansing, yeah that’s it.”😂
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on November 05, 2023, 03:28:17 PM
I want it to escalate to such degree that most of the middle-east gets wiped out

I have no bone in this fight and prefer to analyze it from afar

Unfortunately there will be a lot of "fugees" coming from ME to Swe

I don't know enough about the geopolitics situation of the ME, tbh. I do know that no other Muslim countries around there seem to want to take in any of the Palestinians and there's gotta be a reason for that. Was it Denmark that took in a lot in the late 80's early 90's and they have caused nothing but crime, unemployment benefits, lack of cohesion and integration? Maybe it's true that they're just too fucked up to fit in, anywhere. I also read somewhere that Lebanon took some in and ended up having to throw them out because they were up to no good.

I really don't know but you're right: none of them belong in Europe. They need to be taken in by Muslim countries as they consider themselves brothers/sisters. Fuck having them here.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 05, 2023, 03:38:29 PM
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Wish them fucking dumb idiots would fuck over to palestine
And stand with them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 05, 2023, 04:01:33 PM
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What does climate Justice have to do with Palestine?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Flexacon on November 05, 2023, 06:27:32 PM
Some unpopular (or maybe popular) takes.

- You're an Israeli patriot. You want all traces of Hamas wiped out even if that means the whole of Gaza needs flattening. You know it's wrong, war crimes etc, but it's now or never. You have the perfect scapegoat in Netanyahu who you hate. He can be sacrificed for the war crimes and the patriots can claim they were just following orders.

- You're a Westerner. You know Israeli actions in Gaza are wrong and you know a ceasefire won't solve anything. You just want it to be over as you're sick of hearing about it. Flattening Gaza is the quickest way and whilst you would prefer a different solution, you know you'll eventually be able to live with this one.

- You're a oil rich Arab. You know the oil money won't last forever. You know having closer ties with Israel and access to that brain power is essential to your nations future (and your wealth). You just want the want Israel to handle this as quick as possible and without pissing off your Muslim population. You want a ceasefire that lasts long enough for you to be able to conduct your business. After that you don't care what happens to Gaza.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 05, 2023, 06:31:46 PM

What does climate Justice have to do with Palestine?

It’s just a cliche that white liberals use so that they can appear to be loving and kind hearted

Meanwhile...

The thousand yard stare.

Joyless existence.

Emotionally numb.

Generation Nothingness.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 06, 2023, 12:55:17 AM

What does climate Justice have to do with Palestine?
Climate justice is their religion that encompasses all.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 06, 2023, 01:02:26 AM
It’s just a cliche that white liberals use so that they can appear to be loving and kind hearted

Meanwhile...

The thousand yard stare.

Joyless existence.

Emotionally numb.

Generation Nothingness.

Plus they're some of the most violent and insane pussies known to man... (Libturd cowards)...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2023, 02:46:09 AM
It’s just a cliche that white liberals use so that they can appear to be loving and kind hearted

Meanwhile...

The thousand yard stare.

Joyless existence.

Emotionally numb.

Generation Nothingness.

This is how they’d be treated by their favorite pets.

His last words were probably “But I’m on your side!”

Massachusetts native, activist killed in unprovoked NYC stabbing, police say

 https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-native-activist-killed-in-unprovoked-nyc-stabbing-police-say/45459369
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: falco on November 06, 2023, 03:16:38 AM
It’s just a cliche that white liberals use so that they can appear to be loving and kind hearted

Meanwhile...

The thousand yard stare cock stare.

Joyless existence.

Emotionally numb.

Generation Nothingness.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2023, 03:32:35 AM
I remember back in the day first checking out
left wing sites like Daily Kos and the now defunct Air America. What struck me was how far to the left they were. It’s like everyone graduated from Karl Marx U, which is apparently what the American higher education system has become.

What also struck me was their bizarre obsession with Palestinians, as though out of the seven billion people on the planet, this was the most important group of people in the world. It makes sense when you consider that group is involved in a conflict with a pro-western capitalist country.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: IroNat on November 06, 2023, 03:51:54 AM
Jesus, these guys have been expelled more times than a young Brian Hankins  :D.

Well...almost.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2023, 04:11:37 AM
Jesus, these guys have been expelled more times than a young Brian Hankins  :D.

Here’s what happened when they got their own country. There are underperforming and outperforming minorities. Dindus, Sand Dindus and Hispanics are the former. Jews and Asians are the latter.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on November 06, 2023, 04:49:39 AM
Wish them fucking dumb idiots would fuck over to palestine
And stand with them.


Amen, my British Brother!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on November 06, 2023, 04:58:42 AM
I don't know enough about the geopolitics situation of the ME, tbh. I do know that no other Muslim countries around there seem to want to take in any of the Palestinians and there's gotta be a reason for that. Was it Denmark that took in a lot in the late 80's early 90's and they have caused nothing but crime, unemployment benefits, lack of cohesion and integration? Maybe it's true that they're just too fucked up to fit in, anywhere. I also read somewhere that Lebanon took some in and ended up having to throw them out because they were up to no good.

I really don't know but you're right: none of them belong in Europe. They need to be taken in by Muslim countries as they consider themselves brothers/sisters. Fuck having them here.

I think it made a lot of problems when they tried to do that. I can't recall specifics but maybe it was Jordan or Algeria. Arafat and the PLO started making political agitations and threatening the status quo power balance in the country where they were housed.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 06, 2023, 05:06:23 AM
Here’s what happened when they got their own country. There are underperforming and outperforming minorities. Dindus, Sand Dindus and Hispanics are the former. Jews and Asians are the latter.

Thin Lizzy, stop it. Please, I beg of you. You don't know what you're talking about here. You clearly haven't even read my previous posts or the links I provided if you’re still making these statements in response. I'm not going to repeat the same points endlessly.

Now, the good news is that you're not the dumbest guy on the planet. You were just lazy enough to regurgitate a Tweet from him blindly, without pausing to evaluate it logically. I noticed today that you took that monumentally stupid post about genocide and population growth from the failed political commentator and pseudointellectual dingbat, Dave Rubin.

Let me see if I can walk you through this and help you to recover from such an embarrassing gaffe. Don't worry: I am here to help you. I want you to think of me as a fellow brother-in-iron throughout this exercise. Let's abandon any tribal allegiances you have and simply look at this one point rationally in order to see if we can find one area of agreement and converge back on to a path towards discussing men in thongs again. All I ask is that you display some integrity and don't run to Twitter or find a YouTuber to steal a response from.

Let's begin with the legal definition of genocide, as set out in Article II of the Genocide Convention (https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf):

Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

 (a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
 (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d)
 Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Now, let's take the Palestinian death toll from Israeli attacks since 7 October, which has been reported by the UN, various NGOs, and credible media channels. That figure is approximately 10,000.

Let's also remind ourselves of what Israel's defense minister (https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/) said shortly before they put his words into action:

'We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.'

Will you now acknowledge that, firstly, there are at least credible reasons to suspect that Israel has violated international laws, including the Genocide Convention?

Secondly, will you now acknowledge that citing population growth statistics over the past 50 years in response to the fact that 10,000 Palestinians have been killed over the past month is a classic red herring fallacy and ridiculously stupid? What exactly did you hope to demonstrate by citing that?

Again, I'm just asking that you respond to these questions with a little intellectual honesty, without the inclusion of irrelevant references to Marxism, naïve college students, or vacuous political pejoratives. I await your response with much optimism.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 06, 2023, 05:18:13 AM
Some unpopular (or maybe popular) takes.

- You're an Israeli patriot. You want all traces of Hamas wiped out even if that means the whole of Gaza needs flattening. You know it's wrong, war crimes etc, but it's now or never. You have the perfect scapegoat in Netanyahu who you hate. He can be sacrificed for the war crimes and the patriots can claim they were just following orders.

- You're a Westerner. You know Israeli actions in Gaza are wrong and you know a ceasefire won't solve anything. You just want it to be over as you're sick of hearing about it. Flattening Gaza is the quickest way and whilst you would prefer a different solution, you know you'll eventually be able to live with this one.

- You're a oil rich Arab. You know the oil money won't last forever. You know having closer ties with Israel and access to that brain power is essential to your nations future (and your wealth). You just want the want Israel to handle this as quick as possible and without pissing off your Muslim population. You want a ceasefire that lasts long enough for you to be able to conduct your business. After that you don't care what happens to Gaza.


This is how the silent majority thinks. Excellent takes.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 06, 2023, 05:21:34 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20IDF%20Battle%20Map%20November%205%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 06, 2023, 05:21:39 AM
The MSM basically controls the subjects people talk about. Recently it was Covid, then Ukraine now it’s the Middle East. I’d be perfectly fine to never have a discussion about either.

That said, it gets tiresome for Leftists to pretend that their bizarre Fetish for a tiny group of Arabs isn’t part of a Marxist agenda.

That’s why they get pissed off when I point out things like life expectancy and income per capita. Their sociology professors didn’t tell them how to respond.

“Genocide? The Life expectancy in Gaza is higher than that of Iran and Russia.”

“Did I say genocide? I meant to say ethnic cleansing, yeah that’s it.”😂

Libturdz cant have a conversation without their phone telling them what to do and say....    ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 06, 2023, 05:25:35 AM

Thin Lizzy, stop it. Please, I beg of you. You don't know what you're talking about here. You clearly haven't even read my previous posts or the links I provided if you’re still asking these sorts of questions. I'm not going to repeat the same points endlessly.


Whew, thats great news... Thx
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 06, 2023, 05:29:56 AM
Whew, thats great news... Thx

I think he’s related to Matt C, as if anybody reads his long winded pseudo intellectual bullshit.😂

Funny how these geniuses are so easy to trigger.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 06, 2023, 05:30:53 AM
Whew, thats great news... Thx

Yeah, you might want to try it with your stupid fucking 'Shitter' posts that no one reads.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 06, 2023, 05:38:04 AM
I think he’s related to Matt C, as if anybody reads his long winded pseudo intellectual bullshit.

And yet you responded to me again today, lol. Nice job demonstrating that you're a Tweet-stealing moron who lacks the ability to admit that he doesn't grasp the things he's posting about. So much for being a 'free thinker.' You just copy and paste posts from anyone you think is on your 'side.' Zero credibility.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on November 06, 2023, 08:16:02 AM
Yeah, you might want to try it with your stupid fucking 'Shitter' posts that no one reads.

I read the Shitter posts ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 06, 2023, 08:42:12 AM
I read the Shitter posts ;D

I'll stand corrected then, haha. I'd like to set Biden on fire but the less I see of him, the better.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 06, 2023, 08:46:15 AM
Yeah, you might want to try it with your stupid fucking 'Shitter' posts that no one reads.

Calm down round eye....

Shitter

Someones getting triggered.....

Shitter
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 08:50:58 AM
Gym Rat helped Funk51 to turn against Biden. That was quite a feat.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2023, 09:13:48 AM
Updated rules on children:

"Can we trans them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we traffic them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we pizzagate them?"
No. Protect them.

"Should we abort them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we kill one?"
No. That's murder.

"Can we kill them by the bushel...because Hamas?"
Abso-fucking-lutely. Bombs away.



So call me a pussy who isn't built for war. This is my limit. I draw the line at intentionally killing thousands of children and then giving excuses why it's necessary or not something to worry about.

You guys are going to have your own views and reasons for them, and it's ultimately up to each man to reconcile himself with his conscience.

Speaking only for myself, this shit doesn't sit with me at all.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 06, 2023, 09:18:48 AM
Updated rules on children:

"Can we trans them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we traffic them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we pizzagate them?"
No. Protect them.

"Should we abort them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we kill one?"
No. That's murder.

"Can we kill them by the bushel...because Hamas?"
Abso-fucking-lutely. Bombs away.



So call me a pussy who isn't built for war. This is my limit. I draw the line at intentionally killing thousands of children and then giving excuses why it's necessary or not something to worry about.

You guys are going to have your own views and reasons for them, and it's ultimately up to each man to reconcile himself with his conscience. It doesn't sit with me at all.

Hamas are firing rockets (over 8000 so far) from densely populated urban civilian areas.

What do you think will happen when Israel fires back at those areas?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 06, 2023, 09:23:27 AM
Hamas are firing rockets (over 8000 so far) from densely populated urban civilian areas.

What do you think will happen when Israel fires back at those areas?

Salvation!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 06, 2023, 09:31:08 AM
Salvation!

The rockets will stop or be reduced but many people in the surrounding areas will be dead or injured.


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 06, 2023, 09:35:52 AM
And yet you responded to me again today, lol. Nice job demonstrating that you're a Tweet-stealing moron who lacks the ability to admit that he doesn't grasp the things he's posting about. So much for being a 'free thinker.' You just copy and paste posts from anyone you think is on your 'side.' Zero credibility.

Why so angry? Folks can disagree here and bust balls... I think youre a good dude, was just yanking your chain.... I never get too wrapped  up in eFights.
Sort of embarrassing...

Crack on (And crack one off)!!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 09:39:52 AM
The rockets will stop or be reduced but many people in the surrounding areas will be dead or injured.

You would be singing a different tune if a Hamas rocket killed your parents, or killed your children...  ..or blew off both of your legs

Edit: I responded to the wrong person
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 06, 2023, 09:41:36 AM
It's "conservative" to give $10 Billion to Israel if Ben Shapiro tells you it is.

How are people that are against lawlessness, crumbling infrastructure, failing schools etc... in the US so GUNG HO on giving BILLIONS to a foreign country....


Israel - A Refuge for Pedophiles

A CBS news report explains how Jewish-American sex offenders use Israel as a safe haven to avoid justice for their crimes.

Also widely reported in Israeli press.
Video:  https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1721518775848071544 (https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1721518775848071544)




That's Israel harboring people that molested children in the US, for the pedophiles pretending to be conservatives.


Be against giving BILLIONS to Arabs AND Israel, leftists trying to pass themselves off as conservatives.


-----------------------

in other news...


(https://i.postimg.cc/YC9KX0vC/hdgdghghhg.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2023, 09:42:24 AM
Hamas are firing rockets (over 8000 so far) from densely populated urban civilian areas.

What do you think will happen when Israel fires back at those areas?

Maybe I don't have the information you have. I have no idea how many Israeli children have been killed by Hamas rocket attacks.

Not that a 1:1 ratio would get me to say anything except there should be an immediate ceasefire but what's the up to date kid kill ratio?

That felt like a weird question to even ask.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 09:45:37 AM
It's "conservative" to give $10 Billion to Israel if Ben Shapiro tells you it is.

How are people that are against lawlessness, crumbling infrastructure, failing schools etc... in the US so GUNG HO on giving BILLIONS to a foreign country....


Israel - A Refuge for Pedophiles

A CBS news report explains how Jewish-American sex offenders use Israel as a safe haven to avoid justice for their crimes.

Also widely reported in Israeli press.

Video:  https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1721518775848071544 (https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1721518775848071544)



(https://i.postimg.cc/YC9KX0vC/hdgdghghhg.jpg)

CBS needs to focus on GREECE
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2023, 09:47:37 AM
You would be singing a different tune if a Hamas rocket killed your parents, or killed your children...  ..or blew off both of your legs

He's in agreement with you, you evangelical whackjob.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 09:49:07 AM
He's in agreement with you, you evangelical whackjob.

Another Karen response 😂
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 06, 2023, 09:51:12 AM
CBS needs to focus on GREECE

Why not both?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 09:51:16 AM
Updated rules on children:

"Can we trans them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we traffic them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we pizzagate them?"
No. Protect them.

"Should we abort them?"
No. Protect them.

"Can we kill one?"
No. That's murder.

"Can we kill them by the bushel...because Hamas?"
Abso-fucking-lutely. Bombs away.



So call me a pussy who isn't built for war. This is my limit. I draw the line at intentionally killing thousands of children and then giving excuses why it's necessary or not something to worry about.

You guys are going to have your own views and reasons for them, and it's ultimately up to each man to reconcile himself with his conscience.

Speaking only for myself, this shit doesn't sit with me at all.

I actually meant to respond to you Karen


What is Hamas blew off your arms? And killed your parents??
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 06, 2023, 09:52:35 AM
I actually meant to respond to you Karen


What is Hamas blew off your arms? And killed your parents??
he would be livid he couldnt post on here
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 09:55:02 AM
Why not both?

Ask CBS

Why did CBS conveniently decide to not expose GREECE
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 06, 2023, 09:57:41 AM
Ask CBS

Why did CBS conveniently decide to not expose GREECE

They should, if they haven't. 

Thankfully the US isn't giving billions of US tax dollars to Greece.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2023, 09:57:57 AM
I actually meant to respond to you Karen


What is Hamas blew off your arms? And killed your parents??

I'd want the people who did it viciously punished.

Would I want children who had nothing to do with it to die?
No, I wouldn't. Would you? If so, why?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 10:04:36 AM
I'd want the people who did it viciously punished.

Would I want children who had nothing to do with it to die?
No, I wouldn't. Would you? If so, why?

As I’ve said... the people of Palestine have to capture Hamas... and turn them over.

Or, the people of Palestine have to kill off Hamas themselves.

That is the only way to end this without civilian casualties.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 06, 2023, 10:06:42 AM
Ask CBS

Why did CBS conveniently decide to not expose GREECE


What happened?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2023, 10:14:22 AM
I have to ask, Royalty.

To what degree, would you say, do your religious beliefs inform your views on this?

I think the world would be a better place if people lived according to what Jesus preached. But I'm trying to discern if you believe that national war policy should be set according to theological interpretation. Specifically, are you of a mind to support Israel because you hold to the prophecy of The Rapture and the return of The Christ?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 10:16:23 AM
Greece is known for the disgusting abuse that Epstein was guilty of...

Epstein used the Greek flag as symbolic message on his island temple
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Taffin on November 06, 2023, 10:16:42 AM
It’s just a cliche that white liberals use so that they can appear to be loving and kind hearted

Meanwhile...

The thousand yard stare cock stare

Joyless existence.

Emotionally numb.

Generation Nothingness.


Fixed.

HAHAHAHAAAA!  That is a very funny - and vivid - description - legit LOL  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 06, 2023, 10:17:03 AM
Question: Are you against giving financial aid to any country that harbors pedophiles that have committed crimes in the US?


Yes or No?



I stand against! How many will fall silent and won't admit they are actually for it...



Below are actual links providing information directly sourced from the country in question.
All Israeli publications:


Tip of the Iceberg': How Foreign Sex Offenders Find Refuge in Israel

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000 (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000)

Israel is trying to legalize Pedophilia

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-741881 (https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-741881)



Israel, the Promised Land for pedophiles


https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ByBkeexEI
 (https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ByBkeexEI)


https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/pedophiles/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/pedophiles/)

Many accused Jewish pedophiles in US flee to Israel, CBS report finds


https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/many-accused-jewish-pedophiles-in-us-flee-to-israel-cbs-report-finds (https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/many-accused-jewish-pedophiles-in-us-flee-to-israel-cbs-report-finds)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 10:20:29 AM
I have to ask, Royalty.

To what degree, would you say, do your religious beliefs inform your views on this?

I think the world would be a better place if people lived according to what Jesus preached. But I'm trying to discern if you believe that national war policy should be set according to theological interpretation. Specifically, are you of a mind to support Israel because you hold to the prophecy of The Rapture and the return of The Christ?

I support Israel yes... but I’m not against Palestine, I’m against Hamas. And if attacked, Israel should have the right to respond.

Again the Palestinians need to purge themselves of Hamas. It’s the safest strategy.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 06, 2023, 10:24:03 AM
Why so angry? Folks can disagree here and bust balls... I think youre a good dude, was just yanking your chain.... I never get too wrapped  up in eFights.
Sort of embarrassing...

Crack on (And crack one off)!!

Gym Rat, I don't take kindly to disrespect. Not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in line at Walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners...anywhere.

It's all good; it was just a Getbig Bar Brawl. Fists were flying.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 06, 2023, 10:28:04 AM
ZOMBIE LAND
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 06, 2023, 10:56:12 AM
WAS THIS NECESSARY?

BEHEAD A GIRL AND PARADE AROUND WITH HER BOD?


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2023, 11:00:08 AM
I support Israel yes... but I’m not against Palestine, I’m against Hamas. And if attacked, Israel should have the right to respond.

Again the Palestinians need to purge themselves of Hamas. It’s the safest strategy.

I don't believe Palestinian kids are part of Hamas or at all complicit in the heinous actions of Hamas. That is why blowing them up is bad. Evil, you might say.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if Jesus did come back I think he'd have some pretty severe questions to ask about this stuff and who supported what.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 06, 2023, 11:01:03 AM
I don't believe Palestinian kids are part of Hamas or at all complicit in the heinous actions of Hamas. That is why blowing them up is bad. Evil, you might say.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if Jesus did come back I think he'd have some pretty severe questions to ask about this stuff and who supported what.
he got short shrift last time he was here
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 06, 2023, 11:04:16 AM
Greece is known for the disgusting abuse that Epstein was guilty of...

Epstein used the Greek flag as symbolic message on his island temple

Pedo-style?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 06, 2023, 11:06:03 AM
I'd want the people who did it viciously punished.

Would I want children who had nothing to do with it to die?
No, I wouldn't. Would you? If so, why?

Yes, I'm in agreement.

Do I know the solution?  No.

However, Hamas didn't just kill people.  The purposely did it in a way so heinous that it's hard to even believe it happened.

So I am unsure of the reasoning behind that, unless it was done in such a way to provoke an overwhelming response so harsh it garners sympathy like we're seeing now.

Is there 4d chess being played here, or are they just complete savages who will stop at nothing until every Jew in Israel is gone?  Would it stop there after that?

So, while I agree, and it makes me sick to think what is happening, what is Israel supposed to do?

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 06, 2023, 11:07:17 AM
Ya but that's the only kind of shrift there is. You never hear of anyone who got long shrift.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 06, 2023, 11:10:55 AM
Yes, I'm in agreement.

Do I know the solution?  No.

However, Hamas didn't just kill people.  The purposely did it in a way so heinous that it's hard to even believe it happened.

So I am unsure of the reasoning behind that, unless it was done in such a way to provoke an overwhelming response so harsh it garners sympathy like we're seeing now.

Is there 4d chess being played here, or are they just complete savages who will stop at nothing until every Jew in Israel is gone?  Would it stop there after that?

So, while I agree, and it makes me sick to think what is happening, what is Israel supposed to do?

No it isnt

Next time someone on the mainstream news say "Israel has a right to defend itself" to justify the killing of women and children in targeted bombings I wish someone would say the same thing when someone comments on the October 7th Attack

"Hamas has a right to defend itself"

as far as "what is Israel supposed to do?"

Easy, the same thing they would do if Hamas was hiding in Israel
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 06, 2023, 11:19:22 AM
Gym Rat, I don't take kindly to disrespect. Not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in line at Walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners...anywhere.

It's all good; it was just a Getbig Bar Brawl. Fists were flying.

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 06, 2023, 12:37:06 PM
No it isnt

Next time someone on the mainstream news say "Israel has a right to defend itself" to justify the killing of women and children in targeted bombings I wish someone would say the same thing when someone comments on the October 7th Attack

"Hamas has a right to defend itself"

as far as "what is Israel supposed to do?"

Easy, the same thing they would do if Hamas was hiding in Israel

What Hamas did was not defending itself.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 06, 2023, 01:49:17 PM
What Hamas did was not defending itself.
they have been defending themselves from Israel since 1987
Quote
What is Hamas and why was it created?
Hamas is an Islamist militant movement and one of the Palestinian territories' two major political parties. It governs more than two million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, but the group is best known for its armed resistance to Israel.

Notice the bolded word
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 06, 2023, 01:51:28 PM
they have been defending themselves from Israel since 1987
Notice the bolded word

It doesn't justify what they did on Oct 7th.

That was not self defense, it was pure evil.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 06, 2023, 02:03:15 PM
It doesn't justify what they did on Oct 7th.

That was not self defense, it was pure evil.

Stop trying to pretend it all started on Oct 7th

There have been atrocities on both sides for years
Israel have killed far more Palestinian civilians that Hamas have
(https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/16516.jpeg)

Israel have killed twice as many Palestinians in the last 4 weeks than from 2008 to 2020 in total
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 06, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
If you could see inside the hospitals in Gaza right now, you’d be left with no doubt that what Israel (along with the US and UK) is doing is evil. I’ve been inside frontline hospitals in the past in order to assess whether or not I would rely on them for treatment, and they are utter chaos. Not only do you have the usual mangled people on hospital beds, but you have families packed in the halls and corridors, some starving and dying from dehydration and illness. You have terrified mothers and children. You have elderly women dying alone in bed from cancer. That’s with organizations still being able to support with medicines, and the buildings having electricity.

Israel has cut off all of that (https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/30/gazas-blocked-relief). Not only cut off access to fuel, water, and the most basic painkilling and anesthetic medicines, but also targeted hospitals full of sheltering families. The courage of the men and women to continue working there in the dark, while under bombardment, should make us hang our heads in shame.

Bombs decapitate people. They burn people alive. They tear limbs off. If you saw that happening to your families, you’d go to your grave wanting revenge. Children are in the hospitals now, having been effectively napalmed with white phosphorus. Try changing a child’s dressings from that without painkillers. Try performing life-saving surgery using the light from your phone because there’s no power. This is the result of deliberate decisions made by the Israeli government in order to collectively punish ‘human animals.’ Does anyone want to say that’s not evil?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2023, 05:01:20 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20IDF%20Battle%20Map%20November%206%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 07, 2023, 05:37:41 AM
What Hamas did was not defending itself.

The targets were military-aged reservists and settlers.  What is Hamas to do if Israel insists on using human shields to “protect” their combatants?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2023, 08:12:13 AM
Israel saw what happened in Rhodesia and South Africa.

They won't allow the same to happen to them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 07, 2023, 08:29:25 AM
The targets were military-aged reservists and settlers.  What is Hamas to do if Israel insists on using human shields to “protect” their combatants?
Love it
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on November 07, 2023, 08:32:57 AM
If you could see inside the hospitals in Gaza right now, you’d be left with no doubt that what Israel (along with the US and UK) is doing is evil. I’ve been inside frontline hospitals in the past in order to assess whether or not I would rely on them for treatment, and they are utter chaos. Not only do you have the usual mangled people on hospital beds, but you have families packed in the halls and corridors, some starving and dying from dehydration and illness. You have terrified mothers and children. You have elderly women dying alone in bed from cancer. That’s with organizations still being able to support with medicines, and the buildings having electricity.

Israel has cut off all of that (https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/30/gazas-blocked-relief). Not only cut off access to fuel, water, and the most basic painkilling and anesthetic medicines, but also targeted hospitals full of sheltering families. The courage of the men and women to continue working there in the dark, while under bombardment, should make us hang our heads in shame.

Bombs decapitate people. They burn people alive. They tear limbs off. If you saw that happening to your families, you’d go to your grave wanting revenge. Children are in the hospitals now, having been effectively napalmed with white phosphorus. Try changing a child’s dressings from that without painkillers. Try performing life-saving surgery using the light from your phone because there’s no power. This is the result of deliberate decisions made by the Israeli government in order to collectively punish ‘human animals.’ Does anyone want to say that’s not evil?

I wholeheartedly agree.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on November 07, 2023, 08:34:33 AM
Thin Lizzy, stop it. Please, I beg of you. You don't know what you're talking about here. You clearly haven't even read my previous posts or the links I provided if you’re still making these statements in response. I'm not going to repeat the same points endlessly.

Now, the good news is that you're not the dumbest guy on the planet. You were just lazy enough to regurgitate a Tweet from him blindly, without pausing to evaluate it logically. I noticed today that you took that monumentally stupid post about genocide and population growth from the failed political commentator and pseudointellectual dingbat, Dave Rubin.

Let me see if I can walk you through this and help you to recover from such an embarrassing gaffe. Don't worry: I am here to help you. I want you to think of me as a fellow brother-in-iron throughout this exercise. Let's abandon any tribal allegiances you have and simply look at this one point rationally in order to see if we can find one area of agreement and converge back on to a path towards discussing men in thongs again. All I ask is that you display some integrity and don't run to Twitter or find a YouTuber to steal a response from.

Let's begin with the legal definition of genocide, as set out in Article II of the Genocide Convention (https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf):

Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

 (a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
 (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d)
 Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Now, let's take the Palestinian death toll from Israeli attacks since 7 October, which has been reported by the UN, various NGOs, and credible media channels. That figure is approximately 10,000.

Let's also remind ourselves of what Israel's defense minister (https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/) said shortly before they put his words into action:

'We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.'

Will you now acknowledge that, firstly, there are at least credible reasons to suspect that Israel has violated international laws, including the Genocide Convention?

Secondly, will you now acknowledge that citing population growth statistics over the past 50 years in response to the fact that 10,000 Palestinians have been killed over the past month is a classic red herring fallacy and ridiculously stupid? What exactly did you hope to demonstrate by citing that?

Again, I'm just asking that you respond to these questions with a little intellectual honesty, without the inclusion of irrelevant references to Marxism, naïve college students, or vacuous political pejoratives. I await your response with much optimism.

Excellent post,thank you.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 07, 2023, 08:35:13 AM
The targets were military-aged reservists and settlers.  What is Hamas to do if Israel insists on using human shields to “protect” their combatants?

The music festival?

Why didn't they just kill folks then?  Why the all the added brutality?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 07, 2023, 08:37:02 AM
Stop trying to pretend it all started on Oct 7th

There have been atrocities on both sides for years
Israel have killed far more Palestinian civilians that Hamas have
(https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/16516.jpeg)

Israel have killed twice as many Palestinians in the last 4 weeks than from 2008 to 2020 in total

If Oct 7th didn't happen, all the people recently killed in Palestine doesn't happen either.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 07, 2023, 08:39:01 AM
The music festival?
Israel place civilians on the border just behind the wall

The civilians are the first people they come across when they get over the wall

Hence the army is hiding behind its civilians
(https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/styles/image_with_caption/public/2022-02/20220216-jerusalem-urban-planning-3-ac.jpg?itok=VF1n8d8Z)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on November 07, 2023, 08:41:05 AM
Israel place civilians on the border just behind the wall

The civilians are the first people they come across when they get over the wall

Hence the army is hiding behind its civilians
(https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/styles/image_with_caption/public/2022-02/20220216-jerusalem-urban-planning-3-ac.jpg?itok=VF1n8d8Z)

The property prices must be way lower the closer to the borders you get. At least you'd assume so.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 07, 2023, 08:41:22 AM
Israel place civilians on the border just behind the wall

The civilians are the first people they come across when they get over the wall

Hence the army is hiding behind its civilians
(https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/styles/image_with_caption/public/2022-02/20220216-jerusalem-urban-planning-3-ac.jpg?itok=VF1n8d8Z)

There's plenty of legitimate criticisms to level against Israel, no reason to draw false equivalencies on top of that.  This is like Republicans claiming every Democrat is a pedo, and Democrats claiming every Republican is a white supremacist.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 07, 2023, 08:45:17 AM
There's plenty of legitimate criticisms to level against Israel, no reason to draw false equivalencies on top of that.  This is like Republicans claiming every Democrat is a pedo, and Democrats claiming every Republican is a white supremicist.
Nothing like that at all

Fact is civilians are in harms way being so close to the border with zero assistance available if they came over the wall

This is Israels greed

If they wanted to protect civilians properly they would have an internal perimeter fence with a half mile border in between

No paragliders looming over unseen then
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2023, 08:46:42 AM
There's plenty of legitimate criticisms to level against Israel, no reason to draw false equivalencies on top of that.  This is like Republicans claiming every Democrat is a pedo, and Democrats claiming every Republican is a white supremacist.

Building of the wall only began in 2000.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 07, 2023, 08:48:15 AM
Nothing like that at all

Fact is civilians are in harms way being so close to the border with zero assistance available if they came over the wall

This is Israels greed

If they wanted to protect civilians properly they would have an internal perimeter fence with a half mile border in between

No paragliders looming over unseen then

That's different than claiming Israel is using human shields.

My superficial knowledge of the situation is that Hamas was planning this for two years, and purposely limited conflict to draw Israel into a false sense of security and let their guard down.

Then, it was accelerated due to a potential peace agreement with Saudi.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 07, 2023, 08:48:38 AM
Israel place civilians on the border just behind the wall

The civilians are the first people they come across when they get over the wall

Hence the army is hiding behind its civilians
(https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/styles/image_with_caption/public/2022-02/20220216-jerusalem-urban-planning-3-ac.jpg?itok=VF1n8d8Z)

Jeff

What side is the Palestinian side in that pic?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 07, 2023, 08:49:30 AM
Jeff

What side is the Palestinian side in that pic?

No idea

Doesnt really matter as far as the discusion goes
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2023, 08:50:43 AM
Nothing like that at all

Fact is civilians are in harms way being so close to the border with zero assistance available if they came over the wall

This is Israels greed

If they wanted to protect civilians properly they would have an internal perimeter fence with a half mile border in between

No paragliders looming over unseen then

Then they'd have to demolish all the buildings, homes and areas which were already there.

Building of the wall only began in 2000.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2023, 08:54:55 AM
When I was in Israel there was no wall and I travelled throughout the West Bank as well.

There weren't even any major check points to pass over Israel into the West Bank.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 07, 2023, 08:57:18 AM
Then they'd have to demolish all the buildings, homes and areas which were already there.

Building of the wall only began in 2000.

Israel is doing that at the moment
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2023, 08:58:11 AM
Israel is doing that at the moment

My point is that the wall cut through what was already built there.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 07, 2023, 09:32:47 AM
Over 200 million people in Pakistan. They have a life expectancy ~10 years less and a per capita GDP less than half of those in Gaza, yet the poor Pakis get no love from the “Free Palestine” crowd.😂
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 07, 2023, 09:39:12 AM
My point is that the wall cut through what was already built there.
So if Israel was so concerned about its citizens it could have left all the properties empy or demolished them
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 07, 2023, 10:33:56 AM
So if Israel was so concerned about its citizens it could have left all the properties empy or demolished them

At the time, the walls were put there due to suicide bombers, who used cars and public buses and blew these up.

Fatah was in control of both Gaza and the West Bank. Fatah run the Palestinian Authority government and are not terrorists.

Only in 2007 did Hamas take over Gaza.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 07, 2023, 12:19:59 PM
That's different than claiming Israel is using human shields.

My superficial knowledge of the situation is that Hamas was planning this for two years, and purposely limited conflict to draw Israel into a false sense of security and let their guard down.

Then, it was accelerated due to a potential peace agreement with Saudi.

Sadly, the tactic of Israeli forces using human shields is very well documented, my friend. An investigation conducted by Amnesty International on Israel's 22-day assault on Gaza in 2008 found that it was common practice for the IDF to use Palestinian civilians—including children—as shields. You can find the report here (https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/015/2009/en/), but here's a few of their key findings:

In several cases Israeli soldiers also used civilians, including children, as “human shields”,
endangering their lives by forcing them to remain in or near houses which they took over and
used as military positions. Some were forced to carry out dangerous tasks such as inspecting
properties or objects suspected of being booby-trapped. Soldiers also took position and
launched attacks from and around inhabited houses, exposing local residents to the danger of
attacks or of being caught in the crossfire
(p. 3.)

Further detailed evidence is also found in the testimonies of former IDF soldiers who have published their stories through 'Breaking the Silence (https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database/221152)', which is 'an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories.' You can read many of their testimonies on the website, but here's just one example below:

Projecting potential harm onto Palestinian civilians

Explain what the 'neighbor procedure' is.

'Neighbor procedure' is a very simple procedure. You're assigned a mission to enter a home at night and arrest terrorists or just people who can be pressured to become collaborators for the Shin Bet Security Service. Assuming there was any risk that the army would arrive at the house and be met with open fire, to decrease the chance of soldiers being hit, the system is very simple: you enter the neighbor's house, that's why it's called 'neighbor procedure,' and you ask a Palestinian to accompany you. The word 'ask' is a bit of a euphemism. You order a Palestinian to accompany you and to open the door of the house you want to enter, to knock on the door and ask to enter, with a very simple objective: if the door blows up, a Palestinian will be blown up, and soldiers won’t be blown up. Ultimately it's a way to decrease harm to soldiers while transferring, actually projecting potential harm onto Palestinian civilians, whose only connection to the situation is that they were simply thrown into it.

How can you actually order a person to do something like that if he isn't suspected of anything?

The IDF controls the territories. If I come to your home, wherever you live, to your apartment, with a company or a platoon of armed soldiers in the middle of the night and knock on your door, point a rifle at you that you know might fire, and tell you [to] come outside, you'll come outside, I can promise you. It's like the mafia asking you to do something. It's not really a request. The possible consequence of him not doing what you ask is clear to him. It's probably not the first time he, or someone he knows, is asked to do something. He, or a friend of his, likely already cleared stone blockades from the road, he already cleared [traffic] spikes from the road, he already took down a flag from an electric pole. It's not as if you arrive at a pristine situation or a blank page. You arrive at a situation in which the consequences of saying no are very clear to him. There will probably also be a soldier who will hit him if he says no, or a soldier who will cock his weapon if he says no, or threaten him physically, or simply grab his kid and take him to do it.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 07, 2023, 01:55:51 PM
Sadly, the tactic of Israeli forces using human shields is very well documented, my friend. An investigation conducted by Amnesty International on Israel's 22-day assault on Gaza in 2008 found that it was common practice for the IDF to use Palestinian civilians—including children—as shields. You can find the report here (https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/015/2009/en/), but here's a few of their key findings:
  • Amnesty International delegates investigated dozens of cases comprising more than
    300 victims, more than half of them women and children.
  • Israeli forces repeatedly targeted ambulances and medical crews, killing several
    medical workers while they were attempting to rescue the wounded and recover the
    dead.
  • Injured civilians who could have been saved died needlessly as Israeli forces
    frequently denied access to ambulances and others to trying rescue the wounded,
    recover the dead and bring aid to those in need.
  • The borders of Gaza were kept sealed throughout Operation “Cast Lead” and civilians
    could not flee, and there was nowhere in Gaza where their safety could be guaranteed.
  • Israeli forces forced Palestinian civilians on several occasions to serve as “human
    shields”
  • Amnesty International found no evidence that rockets were launched from residential
    houses or buildings while civilians were in these buildings, but Hamas and other
    Palestinian armed groups at times launched rockets and located military equipment
    and positions near civilian homes.

In several cases Israeli soldiers also used civilians, including children, as “human shields”,
endangering their lives by forcing them to remain in or near houses which they took over and
used as military positions. Some were forced to carry out dangerous tasks such as inspecting
properties or objects suspected of being booby-trapped. Soldiers also took position and
launched attacks from and around inhabited houses, exposing local residents to the danger of
attacks or of being caught in the crossfire
(p. 3.)

Further detailed evidence is also found in the testimonies of former IDF soldiers who have published their stories through 'Breaking the Silence (https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database/221152)', which is 'an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories.' You can read many of their testimonies on the website, but here's just one example below:

Projecting potential harm onto Palestinian civilians

Explain what the 'neighbor procedure' is.

'Neighbor procedure' is a very simple procedure. You're assigned a mission to enter a home at night and arrest terrorists or just people who can be pressured to become collaborators for the Shin Bet Security Service. Assuming there was any risk that the army would arrive at the house and be met with open fire, to decrease the chance of soldiers being hit, the system is very simple: you enter the neighbor's house, that's why it's called 'neighbor procedure,' and you ask a Palestinian to accompany you. The word 'ask' is a bit of a euphemism. You order a Palestinian to accompany you and to open the door of the house you want to enter, to knock on the door and ask to enter, with a very simple objective: if the door blows up, a Palestinian will be blown up, and soldiers won’t be blown up. Ultimately it's a way to decrease harm to soldiers while transferring, actually projecting potential harm onto Palestinian civilians, whose only connection to the situation is that they were simply thrown into it.

How can you actually order a person to do something like that if he isn't suspected of anything?

The IDF controls the territories. If I come to your home, wherever you live, to your apartment, with a company or a platoon of armed soldiers in the middle of the night and knock on your door, point a rifle at you that you know might fire, and tell you [to] come outside, you'll come outside, I can promise you. It's like the mafia asking you to do something. It's not really a request. The possible consequence of him not doing what you ask is clear to him. It's probably not the first time he, or someone he knows, is asked to do something. He, or a friend of his, likely already cleared stone blockades from the road, he already cleared [traffic] spikes from the road, he already took down a flag from an electric pole. It's not as if you arrive at a pristine situation or a blank page. You arrive at a situation in which the consequences of saying no are very clear to him. There will probably also be a soldier who will hit him if he says no, or a soldier who will cock his weapon if he says no, or threaten him physically, or simply grab his kid and take him to do it.


Yet so very many believe the talking shit heads & Lying MSM that tells them the Israelis
Are the innocent victims & that they never do fuck all wrong.   ::)

Is no wonder they're disliked & been kicked out of 101 countries.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 07, 2023, 02:04:12 PM
Sadly, the tactic of Israeli forces using human shields is very well documented, my friend. An investigation conducted by Amnesty International on Israel's 22-day assault on Gaza in 2008 found that it was common practice for the IDF to use Palestinian civilians—including children—as shields. You can find the report here (https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/015/2009/en/), but here's a few of their key findings:
  • Amnesty International delegates investigated dozens of cases comprising more than
    300 victims, more than half of them women and children.
  • Israeli forces repeatedly targeted ambulances and medical crews, killing several
    medical workers while they were attempting to rescue the wounded and recover the
    dead.
  • Injured civilians who could have been saved died needlessly as Israeli forces
    frequently denied access to ambulances and others to trying rescue the wounded,
    recover the dead and bring aid to those in need.
  • The borders of Gaza were kept sealed throughout Operation “Cast Lead” and civilians
    could not flee, and there was nowhere in Gaza where their safety could be guaranteed.
  • Israeli forces forced Palestinian civilians on several occasions to serve as “human
    shields”
  • Amnesty International found no evidence that rockets were launched from residential
    houses or buildings while civilians were in these buildings, but Hamas and other
    Palestinian armed groups at times launched rockets and located military equipment
    and positions near civilian homes.

In several cases Israeli soldiers also used civilians, including children, as “human shields”,
endangering their lives by forcing them to remain in or near houses which they took over and
used as military positions. Some were forced to carry out dangerous tasks such as inspecting
properties or objects suspected of being booby-trapped. Soldiers also took position and
launched attacks from and around inhabited houses, exposing local residents to the danger of
attacks or of being caught in the crossfire
(p. 3.)

Further detailed evidence is also found in the testimonies of former IDF soldiers who have published their stories through 'Breaking the Silence (https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database/221152)', which is 'an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories.' You can read many of their testimonies on the website, but here's just one example below:

Projecting potential harm onto Palestinian civilians

Explain what the 'neighbor procedure' is.

'Neighbor procedure' is a very simple procedure. You're assigned a mission to enter a home at night and arrest terrorists or just people who can be pressured to become collaborators for the Shin Bet Security Service. Assuming there was any risk that the army would arrive at the house and be met with open fire, to decrease the chance of soldiers being hit, the system is very simple: you enter the neighbor's house, that's why it's called 'neighbor procedure,' and you ask a Palestinian to accompany you. The word 'ask' is a bit of a euphemism. You order a Palestinian to accompany you and to open the door of the house you want to enter, to knock on the door and ask to enter, with a very simple objective: if the door blows up, a Palestinian will be blown up, and soldiers won’t be blown up. Ultimately it's a way to decrease harm to soldiers while transferring, actually projecting potential harm onto Palestinian civilians, whose only connection to the situation is that they were simply thrown into it.

How can you actually order a person to do something like that if he isn't suspected of anything?

The IDF controls the territories. If I come to your home, wherever you live, to your apartment, with a company or a platoon of armed soldiers in the middle of the night and knock on your door, point a rifle at you that you know might fire, and tell you [to] come outside, you'll come outside, I can promise you. It's like the mafia asking you to do something. It's not really a request. The possible consequence of him not doing what you ask is clear to him. It's probably not the first time he, or someone he knows, is asked to do something. He, or a friend of his, likely already cleared stone blockades from the road, he already cleared [traffic] spikes from the road, he already took down a flag from an electric pole. It's not as if you arrive at a pristine situation or a blank page. You arrive at a situation in which the consequences of saying no are very clear to him. There will probably also be a soldier who will hit him if he says no, or a soldier who will cock his weapon if he says no, or threaten him physically, or simply grab his kid and take him to do it.

I was pointing out the specific difference between locating weapons and tunnels under hospitals vs just having people exist in border towns.  It's just not the same thing.

I'm positive there have been atrocities committed on both sides.  But I'm sticking with Hamas went the over the top brutality route on Oct 7 for a reason, and I will consider them evil because of it.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 07, 2023, 02:37:50 PM
Reading some of these posts, this becomes understandable. And I thought this country was fucked:



Muhammad top baby name for fifth year running in UK

https://www.trtworld.com/life/muhammad-top-baby-name-for-fifth-year-running-in-uk-52191


Muhammad revealed as the most popular UK baby boy name for 2022

https://www.gbnews.com/news/muhammad-revealed-as-the-most-popular-uk-baby-boy-name-for-2022/331678
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 07, 2023, 03:54:13 PM
The surest way to stop

Muhammad from being the top baby name for fifth year running in UK

is to fight and fund the wars benefitting Israel which destabilize the middle east and cause Muslims to be refugees in the first place

and then to give 100s of $BILLIONS in aid to the number one country BY FAR (Israel) facilitating and funding through NGOS and other organizations..

the endless flood of Muslims and Africans into Western lands  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

"The strategy of organised Zionist groups like the ADL is to defend aggressive, expansionist Јewish nationalism in the Middle East and promote The Open Society in the West."

continued below images

Break outside of the Fox news/Ben Shapiro limited hangout, controlled opposition when it comes to the destruction of the West. It's illogical to be against destroying the West but to support the destruction of the West.

All Israeli or Jewish sources and it's the tip of the tip of the iceberg:


(https://i.postimg.cc/qvKWk7yc/F-LFOo2-W8-AA2s-Hi.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsbyLKt4/F93n6-Xaaw-AMh-V-Q.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Dz862jt9/F93n8p-Ta-EAEQFIa.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0185vJj/F93n6-Ybaw-AAm-YS4.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yN4xdW57/F93n-u6aw-AAxbk-D.jpg)



"The strategy of organised Zionist groups like the ADL is to defend aggressive, expansionist Јewish nationalism in the Middle East and promote The Open Society in the West."

"In a liberal pluralist society where individualism is sacrosanct and the worst sin is "racism", groups that network and use nepotism have a huge advantage playing as a team while everyone else plays solo. "

"Extreme taboos against discussions of group behaviour, maintained by the WW2 mythos, prohibits anyone from identifying influence of groups if they succeed in capturing powerful institutions."

"Maximum diversity protects against the danger of
a supermajority establishing a nationalist government and taking back control of institutions from minoritarian interests for the benefit of the majority.

Extreme censorship to silence nationalists, people identifying the effects of ethnic networking, and any other opponents of the open society is necessary to maintain this, which is why Zionist groups like the ADL have led the push for censoring free speech on the internet."

(https://i.postimg.cc/PfpqmWjd/F-Kj-RFn-Xc-AAARAg.jpg)









Unrequited love:


(https://i.postimg.cc/wMLsqPcj/F-Gh52g-XUAE3wd-B.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Zillotch on November 07, 2023, 04:13:33 PM
destabilize the middle east and cause Muslims to be refugees - endless flood of Muslims and Africans into Western lands

yes, that is on the agenda... but u have to look beyond 'the jews'

'the jews' have no actual power.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 07, 2023, 04:20:13 PM
yes, that is on the agenda... but u have to look beyond 'the jews'

'the jews' have no actual power.


You have to look beyond 'the Jews'. I'm naming organizations.


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on November 07, 2023, 06:01:21 PM


Amazing on some of these.   The war that will start is not going to be in Israel, nor in Gaza.  The true war will be in Europe, when the Muslims have reached a portion of the population in European countries in which they start to push the Eastern Values onto the French, the British, the German's, etc, and start to force the Muslim way upon them. 

Israel will achieve the goal of removing or seriously hindering Hamas, a terrorist organization that killed 1,400 people in Israel.  Simple as that. They killed 1,400 people with the intention of killing thousands more if they were not stropped. You can blame whatever you want, but this occured because of that incident on October 7th. It will result in Hamas leaving Gaza, and another group, aka Fatah taking over, and truly wanting a two state solution.  And actual peace on day by people who want it.  Thousands more will die in this war as Hamas doesnt care, and it is a war, not a genocide, since Hamas likes to put numbers like over 10,000 killed in Gaza (but not how many were killed fighting against Israel). 

Yes, screaming genocide and using AI to make good pictures, to make people angry works.  But the truth is, Israel will be there stronger when this is over, and the Palestinian people will have a chance in Gaza to make is as nice as other cities can be without a terrorist group like Hamas killing them. So many of these propaganda on both sides so the 1% of extreme's.

Privately, quite a few Arabs just want Hamas out so they can actually get peace in the region.  Jews don't hate Palestinians, and vice versa.  Both sides hate the extreme right wingers that destroy it for the 90% of the people who just want to live in peace.  Hence, why so many Arab countries are not or want to deal with Hamas.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Moontrane on November 07, 2023, 07:30:54 PM

Amazing on some of these.   The war that will start is not going to be in Israel, nor in Gaza.  The true war will be in Europe, when the Muslims have reached a portion of the population in European countries in which they start to push the Eastern Values onto the French, the British, the German's, etc, and start to force the Muslim way upon them. 

Israel will achieve the goal of removing or seriously hindering Hamas, a terrorist organization that killed 1,400 people in Israel.  Simple as that. They killed 1,400 people with the intention of killing thousands more if they were not stropped. You can blame whatever you want, but this occured because of that incident on October 7th. It will result in Hamas leaving Gaza, and another group, aka Fatah taking over, and truly wanting a two state solution.  And actual peace on day by people who want it.  Thousands more will die in this war as Hamas doesnt care, and it is a war, not a genocide, since Hamas likes to put numbers like over 10,000 killed in Gaza (but not how many were killed fighting against Israel). 

Yes, screaming genocide and using AI to make good pictures, to make people angry works.  But the truth is, Israel will be there stronger when this is over, and the Palestinian people will have a chance in Gaza to make is as nice as other cities can be without a terrorist group like Hamas killing them. So many of these propaganda on both sides so the 1% of extreme's.

Privately, quite a few Arabs just want Hamas out so they can actually get peace in the region.  Jews don't hate Palestinians, and vice versa.  Both sides hate the extreme right wingers that destroy it for the 90% of the people who just want to live in peace.  Hence, why so many Arab countries are not or want to deal with Hamas.

Ron, watch Birmingham, UK.

2000 14% Muslim
2010 21% Muslim
2021 30% Muslim

I predict that 35% is the tipping point when it rapidly becomes another Savile Town.  No shots fired, no swords drawn.

Hope to hell I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Phantom Spunker on November 07, 2023, 10:40:23 PM

Yet so very many believe the talking shit heads & Lying MSM that tells them the Israelis
Are the innocent victims & that they never do fuck all wrong.   ::)

It is truly scary how easily people still fall for it. Politics in the US (and the UK is following suit) has become so polarized that loyalty to one's political tribe is more important than loyalty to truth and decency. People are too lazy to actually read up on something and think about it. They'd rather turn to conmen on Twitter and YouTube who are paid to throw out stupid buzzwords and empty slogans designed to shut down dialogue. The owner of this site is literally defending a genocide that's unfolding right before his eyes, and dismissing facts as Hamas propaganda and AI, lol. The world is fucked.

The surest way to stop

Muhammad from being the top baby name for fifth year running in UK

is to fight and fund the wars benefitting Israel which destabilize the middle east and cause Muslims to be refugees in the first place



BINGO. Regardless of what we think of certain groups (and I hate organized religion), the right to take your family out of harm's way when there's a war going on is a universal one. Don't like it, then stop fucking supporting atrocities, overthrowing regimes, and bombing the hell out of places for reasons that don't benefit us—the ordinary citizens—in any justifiable way at all.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 07, 2023, 10:47:52 PM
It is truly scary how easily people still fall for it. Politics in the US (and the UK is following suit) has become so polarized that loyalty to one's political tribe is more important than loyalty to truth and decency. People are too lazy to actually read up on something and think about it. They'd rather turn to conmen on Twitter and YouTube who are paid to throw out stupid buzzwords and empty slogans designed to shut down dialogue. The owner of this site is literally defending a genocide that's unfolding right before his eyes, and dismissing facts as Hamas propaganda and AI, lol. The world is fucked.


BINGO. Regardless of what we think of certain groups (and I hate organized religion), the right to take your family out of harm's way when there's a war going on is a universal one. Don't like it, then stop fucking supporting atrocities, overthrowing regimes, and bombing the hell out of places for reasons that don't benefit us—the ordinary citizens—in any justifiable way at all.

The amount of children killed in Gaza since October 7 is equal to two 9/11's and then some. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: BEEFCAKE on November 07, 2023, 10:51:50 PM
The amount of children killed in Gaza since October 7 is equal to two 9/11's and then some.

the life of one white man is worth about 100 gaza babys so probably not.....
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 07, 2023, 11:19:02 PM

Amazing on some of these.   The war that will start is not going to be in Israel, nor in Gaza.  The true war will be in Europe, when the Muslims have reached a portion of the population in European countries in which they start to push the Eastern Values onto the French, the British, the German's, etc, and start to force the Muslim way upon them. 

Israel will achieve the goal of removing or seriously hindering Hamas, a terrorist organization that killed 1,400 people in Israel.  Simple as that. They killed 1,400 people with the intention of killing thousands more if they were not stropped. You can blame whatever you want, but this occured because of that incident on October 7th. It will result in Hamas leaving Gaza, and another group, aka Fatah taking over, and truly wanting a two state solution.  And actual peace on day by people who want it.  Thousands more will die in this war as Hamas doesnt care, and it is a war, not a genocide, since Hamas likes to put numbers like over 10,000 killed in Gaza (but not how many were killed fighting against Israel). 

Yes, screaming genocide and using AI to make good pictures, to make people angry works.  But the truth is, Israel will be there stronger when this is over, and the Palestinian people will have a chance in Gaza to make is as nice as other cities can be without a terrorist group like Hamas killing them. So many of these propaganda on both sides so the 1% of extreme's.

Privately, quite a few Arabs just want Hamas out so they can actually get peace in the region.  Jews don't hate Palestinians, and vice versa.  Both sides hate the extreme right wingers that destroy it for the 90% of the people who just want to live in peace.  Hence, why so many Arab countries are not or want to deal with Hamas.


THIS!

OUR FATHER RON SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 07, 2023, 11:21:17 PM
Ron, watch Birmingham, UK.

2000 14% Muslim
2010 21% Muslim
2021 30% Muslim

I predict that 35% is the tipping point when it rapidly becomes another Savile Town.  No shots fired, no swords drawn.

Hope to hell I'm wrong.

We even have a suburb here in Sweden that is totally been taken over, it was ok in the late 80s/early 90s, but now it's conquered beyond repair.

We call it Little Mogadishu these days
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 07, 2023, 11:50:23 PM
the life of one white man is worth about 100 gaza babys so probably not.....

Thanks for joining the board. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 08, 2023, 03:23:47 AM
Ron, watch Birmingham, UK.

2000 14% Muslim
2010 21% Muslim
2021 30% Muslim

I predict that 35% is the tipping point when it rapidly becomes another Savile Town.  No shots fired, no swords drawn.

Hope to hell I'm wrong.

You’re probably not and they’re not coming from the Middle East, mainly from Pakistan.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 08, 2023, 04:59:16 AM
Hamas will be removed from Gaza.

Then after IDF occupation, Gaza will probably be handed over to the Palestinian Authority to govern.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 08, 2023, 05:00:34 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20IDF%20Battle%20Map%20November%207%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 08, 2023, 05:02:58 AM
Hamas will be removed from Gaza.

Then after IDF occupation, Gaza will probably be handed over to the Palestinian Authority to govern.

Hamas is an ideology, it isnt just some people

You cant eradicate a belief system
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 08, 2023, 05:27:12 AM
Hamas is an ideology, it isnt just some people

You cant eradicate a belief system

The Hamas political party running the regional government of Gaza will be removed from power.

And probably replaced with Fatah, who control the government in the West Bank.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on November 08, 2023, 07:09:28 AM
The Hamas political party running the regional government of Gaza will be removed from power.

And probably replaced with Fatah, who control the government in the West Bank.

Probably. I think anyone replacing Hamas after an Israeli takeover will be seen as Quislings by their own people. Then they'll eventually be ousted, and everything goes back to square one.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on November 08, 2023, 07:42:01 AM
Quote
Hamas is an ideology, it isnt just some people, You cant eradicate a belief system

You are right on that.  There are people all over the world that believe it is ok to destroy Israel, free Palestine from the River to the Sea (a Hamas slagon), and kill 7 million Jews or remove them.  That is ok with them.   It won't happen. But Hamas as an ideology out of Gaza and the West Bank might give the Palestinians who are brave enough to sit down and actually a state called Palestine. You cannot give into the 10% of radicals on both sides that ruin the 90% chance of actual peace. Look at Lebanon, how they are developing Beirut into an amazing city. Look at the other Arab cities, with awesome places to visit and live.  Then look what Hamas has done to Gaza, in taking money and supplies, and putting it into war bombs, and tunnels and rockets instead of a great place to live for the Palestinians.

Also that people think it is a 'genocide' in Gaza.  No one, including myself supports a genocide. I think it is terrible that Hamas puts Palestinians in the line of fire in Gaza. It needs to stop.  A genocide is what happened when people killed 6 million Jews, when people killed 1.5 million Armenians, or when Hamas goes in to kill innocent people, aka Oct 7th in Israel where if they were not stopped, thousands more would of died - it could of been 20,000, 30,000 - by they were stopped there. Funny how no one is talking about that...

Gaza is a military operation in which Hamas refuses to give up the kidnapped hostages. Hamas only objective is to destroy Israel and the Jews there. And to gather sympathy around the world on the 'genocide' that the Israel military is attacking in Gaza.   Israel has 2 million Arabs. West Bank has over 2 million also.  Stop with the Hamas 'genocide' war cry, and look at how to give the Palestinian people a state with peace on all sides. Be informative and look for a solution that will work for the entire region. 

We are all horrified by the images of Hamas showing ruined buildings and innocent people killed.  Terrible.  Palestinians, Israelis and Arab Countries (with the exception of the Iranian gov) want Hamas out.  We all know Hamas is the one that destroyed Gaza for the sake of angering the Arabs into not signing a peace deal with Israel (aka Saudi Arabia). Why all the Arab coutries are just watching. They don't want to deal with Hamas either. 

For Gaza, there is a solution.  Lets talk about that. My solution -  clear out Hamas out of Gaza, hostages go back home, mourn the innocent deaths on both sides, let the Palestinian people get representation with true people who want peace and not the destruction of the region, bring in an interim government with Jordanians, Egyptians, Palestinians who have peace deals with Israel and lets get it done.  Bring in the UN peacekeeping forces to enforce that no one from both sides fires any rockets or bombs.  And lets get brave Palestinians who privately tell that they really want peace, but are afraid of the fringe groups that will kill, scare and call them 'collaberators' if they publicly say that. 


Anyone I talk to, in Israel, in Arab states, in the USA - all they want is peace. Everyone hates innocent people getting killed. We need a council with real solutions, and not let Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and others ruin this commitment to peace in the region.  And screaming ceasefire, 'free Palestine and kill Israel', screaming in college - is not going to work.  So, lets talk about a REAL solution, and one that will work for 90% of the people, not the extremism on both sides.




Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 08, 2023, 08:14:38 AM
Really interesting video with Adam Green and Owen Benjamin

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It will help gentiles understand Jews and judaism on a level you ordinarily will not get watching tv and movies.

Also, how Jewish supremacists feed off hate, not to be confused with criticism, which is GOOD, and what makes this a decent thread.

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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 08, 2023, 08:26:02 AM
Once the Hamas government is removed from control of Gaza, it is unlikely their militants will still be able to launch as many rockets or attacks from Gaza into Israel.

Dismantling their organisation throughout the region will of course be another issue, if at all possible, but removing them from control of a territory and its finances will be a blow to them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 08, 2023, 09:36:20 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20Clearing%20Map%20November%207%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kindasmelly on November 09, 2023, 09:14:08 AM
this Israeli woman was arrested for being empathetic
not that I give a shit about that or her but getbiggers would need a better look at the cop
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 09, 2023, 01:02:13 PM
new image of the Gazza Strip
(https://i0.wp.com/allstarsignings.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/gazza-19-england-shirt.jpg?fit=920%2C1256&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 09, 2023, 02:12:13 PM

Amazing on some of these.   The war that will start is not going to be in Israel, nor in Gaza.  The true war will be in Europe, when the Muslims have reached a portion of the population in European countries in which they start to push the Eastern Values onto the French, the British, the German's, etc, and start to force the Muslim way upon them. 

Israel will achieve the goal of removing or seriously hindering Hamas, a terrorist organization that killed 1,400 people in Israel.  Simple as that. They killed 1,400 people with the intention of killing thousands more if they were not stropped. You can blame whatever you want, but this occured because of that incident on October 7th. It will result in Hamas leaving Gaza, and another group, aka Fatah taking over, and truly wanting a two state solution.  And actual peace on day by people who want it.  Thousands more will die in this war as Hamas doesnt care, and it is a war, not a genocide, since Hamas likes to put numbers like over 10,000 killed in Gaza (but not how many were killed fighting against Israel). 

Yes, screaming genocide and using AI to make good pictures, to make people angry works.  But the truth is, Israel will be there stronger when this is over, and the Palestinian people will have a chance in Gaza to make is as nice as other cities can be without a terrorist group like Hamas killing them. So many of these propaganda on both sides so the 1% of extreme's.

Privately, quite a few Arabs just want Hamas out so they can actually get peace in the region.  Jews don't hate Palestinians, and vice versa.  Both sides hate the extreme right wingers that destroy it for the 90% of the people who just want to live in peace.  Hence, why so many Arab countries are not or want to deal with Hamas.

It's the left wing that flooded Europe with Muslims. It was not a natural migration. In UK, they did it to rub the right's nose in diversity. Go read up on it. This is why many are calling it White genocide. Let's see how it plays out. Whites themselves are to blame also because they did not resist the mass flooding and corruption of their politicians. I and many others have been predicting civil wars across Europe. In nature it is survival of the fittest. Either you fight for your place in the world or you go bye bye! I'll start respecting the Swedes once they start retaliating against their replacement by the "powers that be".
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 09, 2023, 02:14:16 PM
new image of the Gazza Strip
(https://i0.wp.com/allstarsignings.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/gazza-19-england-shirt.jpg?fit=920%2C1256&ssl=1)
I don't get it....
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 09, 2023, 02:16:40 PM
We even have a suburb here in Sweden that is totally been taken over, it was ok in the late 80s/early 90s, but now it's conquered beyond repair.

We call it Little Mogadishu these days
Was nice when Sweden was as depicted in Wallander. If I recall even there they had some migrant issues...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Moontrane on November 09, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
We even have a suburb here in Sweden that is totally been taken over, it was ok in the late 80s/early 90s, but now it's conquered beyond repair.

We call it Little Mogadishu these days

Ah, Rinkeby.  I just read that 89% are first or second generation immigrants. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 09, 2023, 04:07:03 PM
Ah, Rinkeby.  I just read that 89% are first or second generation immigrants.

Haha how did you know i was talking about Rinkeby? :D

You have swedish friends?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Moontrane on November 09, 2023, 07:43:49 PM
Haha how did you know i was talking about Rinkeby? :D

You have swedish friends?

I searched for "Little Mogadishu." 

I wish I had Swedish friends.  The closest to that was my Swiss uncle. :)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Dalnet on November 10, 2023, 06:46:04 AM
I searched for "Little Mogadishu." 

I wish I had Swedish friends.  The closest to that was my Swiss uncle. :)

I've always wanted to visit Sweden. I've been Switzerland and it really is as beautiful as expected. Someone posted some nightlife pictures of Sweden, last week, and there's some hot talent around.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 10, 2023, 06:51:43 AM
I don't get it....

Paul Gascoine (Gazza) jersey for sale
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 10, 2023, 06:55:52 AM
Is this Contrived "war" still a thing.
Folk around the world being played like a Fiddle yet again.  ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: hardgainerj on November 10, 2023, 09:09:10 AM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 10, 2023, 11:35:40 AM
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Israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think GetBig is going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Israel is not going to be the monolithic society that they once were in the last century. Getbig is going to be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for Israel to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and GetBig will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Israel will not survive.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 10, 2023, 05:44:09 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/587018-elon-musk-israel-hamas/

Killing children in Gaza ‘makes Hamas’ – Elon Musk

The way for Israel to fight is with “conspicuous kindness,” the tech billionaire has said

Israel’s reaction to the October 7 attack by Hamas has played into the terrorist group’s hands, according to X CEO Elon Musk, who urged West Jerusalem to embrace a “counterintuitive” strategy that would be more beneficial in the long-term.

“If you kill somebody’s child in Gaza, you’ve made at least a few Hamas members who will die just to kill Israelis,” Musk said on the Lex Fridman podcast on Thursday.

The Tesla, SpaceX and X (formerly Twitter) head argued that the goal of the Palestinian militant group was to “provoke an overreaction” by Israel by committing atrocities and then “leverage that aggressive response to rally Muslims worldwide for the cause of Gaza and Palestine, which they have succeeded in doing.”

“This is one of the most contentious subjects one could possibly discuss, but I think if the ultimate goal is some sort of long-term peace, one has to look at this from the standpoint of, over time, are there more or fewer terrorists being created?” Musk said.

The October 7 incursion resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,400 Israelis, with another 200 or so taken to Gaza as hostages. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has responded by declaring war on the Palestinian enclave, launching weeks of air and artillery strikes and proceeding with a ground invasion in early November.

A proposal circulating in the media wants all of Gaza’s Palestinian population forcibly removed. Some Israeli public figures have advocated for leveling the enclave completely. Others have labeled photojournalists who documented the October 7 attack as accomplices of Hamas that need to be killed.

As of Friday, more than 11,000 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed and 27,490 wounded, according to the local health ministry. While the White House has cast doubt on Palestinian figures, the US State Department believes the true numbers might be even higher.

“The counterintuitive thing that should be done here, even though it is very difficult, is that I recommend Israel do the most conspicuous acts of kindness possible,” Musk told Fridman in the podcast interview.

Providing healthcare, food and other relief to civilians while still targeting Hamas leaders and operatives, would thwart the group’s goal and “ultimately fights the broader force of hatred in the region,” the billionaire argued.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 10, 2023, 05:45:14 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/587033-macron-israel-killing-babies/

‘Stop killing babies’, Macron tells Israel

The French president has condemned Hamas but urged a ceasefire in Gaza

Civilians are getting bombed in Gaza and this needs to stop, French President Emmanuel Macron has told the BBC in an interview on Friday

France “clearly condemns” the Hamas attacks of October 7, Macron said. “We do share [Israel’s] pain. And we do share their willingness to get rid of terrorism. We know what terrorism means in France.”

However, he added, there was “no justification” for the ongoing bombing of civilians in Gaza.

“It’s extremely important for all of us, because of our principles, because we are democracies, it's important for the mid-to-long run, as well for the security of Israel itself, to recognise that all lives matter,” the French president said.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 10, 2023, 06:06:47 PM
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on November 10, 2023, 06:14:01 PM
islime is crap.  If you are for Palestine you are for islime.  All of islime.  These creatures are primitives and not desiring freedom except for themselves.  They desire the freedom to rape and kill women and children as well as destroy any and every thing that does not kneel to islime.

You can choose to not believe my words but in doing so you are choosing...poorly. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 10, 2023, 06:14:46 PM
Israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think GetBig is going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Israel is not going to be the monolithic society that they once were in the last century. Getbig is going to be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for Israel to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and GetBig will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Israel will not survive.


I sincerely hope the Multiculturalism really fucks up Israel
Bunch of whinning khvnts , always pleading the victim card,
And oh no they never ever do anything Bastardly Wrong   ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 10, 2023, 06:24:11 PM
islime is crap.  If you are for Palestine you are for islime.  All of islime.  These creatures are primitives and not desiring freedom except for themselves.  They desire the freedom to rape and kill women and children as well as destroy any and every thing that does not kneel to islime.

You can choose to not believe my words but in doing so you are choosing...poorly.
We all come from the same Solar Nebula. Once it was just a hydrogen / helium cloud with some interstellar dust. This religion and tradition conflict we have today and for the past tens of thousands of years is a miniscule detail in the grand scheme of things. There were no human conflict when we were still amoebae. And a few hundred years from now it all will mean nothing.

But because we live in the present, your viewpoint is not sustainable. As Elon mentioned, more hatred will be directed at Israel if all Palestinians are seen as creatures, not worthy of any consideration. If I was a Palestinian and my children were killed in retaliation strikes I would make it my mission to take out as many Israelis as possible. And that is what will happen. Very unwise of the Israelis to approach Palestinians like this. They are making enemies all over the world right now. All lives matter, except for those that legitimately are evil. All Palestinians are not evil.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 10, 2023, 06:27:28 PM
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Russia has been saying the same thing about Ukrainians hiding behind civilians.

But it is a convenient excuse isn't it? Now children can be killed and the excuse is, oh well, Hamas were hiding behind them. Never mind if it is true or not. Maybe they never even hid behind the civilians in some of the strikes? It's a slippery slope that is not a winning strategy in the long run. And since when is it policy to kill civilians even if they are used as shields by an enemy? Is that how NATO operates?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 10, 2023, 06:28:25 PM

I sincerely hope the Multiculturalism really fucks up Israel
Bunch of whinning khvnts , always pleading the victim card,
And oh no they never ever do anything Bastardly Wrong   ::)
This. I keep seeing disgusting Barbara Spectre in Sweden.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: obsidian on November 10, 2023, 06:29:23 PM
Israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think GetBig is going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Israel is not going to be the monolithic society that they once were in the last century. Getbig is going to be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for Israel to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and GetBig will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Israel will not survive.
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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on November 10, 2023, 06:59:17 PM
We all come from the same Solar Nebula. Once it was just a hydrogen / helium cloud with some interstellar dust. This religion and tradition conflict we have today and for the past tens of thousands of years is a miniscule detail in the grand scheme of things. There were no human conflict when we were still amoebae. And a few hundred years from now it all will mean nothing.

But because we live in the present, your viewpoint is not sustainable. As Elon mentioned, more hatred will be directed at Israel if all Palestinians are seen as creatures, not worthy of any consideration. If I was a Palestinian and my children were killed in retaliation strikes I would make it my mission to take out as many Israelis as possible. And that is what will happen. Very unwise of the Israelis to approach Palestinians like this. They are making enemies all over the world right now. All lives matter, except for those that legitimately are evil. All Palestinians are not evil.

I came from my mother.  I was born with the same physical properties as other human beings.   It is how you are raised that most acts upon how you behave or misbehave.   Once more:

It is NOT that Israel can do no wrong but the islime will do no right. 

I know the cruelty of some Jewish folk. My relatives.  How did it ultimately stop?  I became so much stronger than them and I retaliated against their actions.  With ease.  The last time I visited them not a single male relative was rude. 

All this poor widdle Palestinians crap is bullshit.  Their fellow Arabs loathe them and with good reason but again, islime is disgustingly vile and bent upon the destruction of the Civilized World. 

I know whereof I speak on this subject.  It is highly likely that I know more than many if not all here.  So.  Choose wisely.  I would not allow a serpent or a spider into my home.   I despise cuckoldry such as I see going on in the world today.  Men have cut their own balls off to appear woke, sensitive and inclusive.  Fuck That Noise.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: BEEFCAKE on November 10, 2023, 07:04:47 PM
israel did 0ct 7 to its self , just like usa did 9/11 to its self....
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 10, 2023, 07:11:18 PM
Yes, I'm in agreement.

Do I know the solution?  No.

However, Hamas didn't just kill people.  The purposely did it in a way so heinous that it's hard to even believe it happened.

So I am unsure of the reasoning behind that, unless it was done in such a way to provoke an overwhelming response so harsh it garners sympathy like we're seeing now.

Is there 4d chess being played here, or are they just complete savages who will stop at nothing until every Jew in Israel is gone?  Would it stop there after that?

So, while I agree, and it makes me sick to think what is happening, what is Israel supposed to do?

What are they supposed to do? Identify and hit a target.

I'm having a very hard time accepting that its neccessary or in any way ok to intentionally fire at innocent people. It's bad when Hamas does it and it's bad when the IDF does it.

To be clear, I'm not criticizing Israel as a whole. I'm against the actions of the Netanyahu administration which appear to me to give everyone in Gaza a choice between expulsion or death.

Others seem to feel that the entire nation of Israel will be wiped out if Netanyahu isn't permitted to continue to prosecute the conflict in the current way. I think it's the opposite. Governments all over the world are recalling ambassadors and condemning Netanyahu's  strategy, and the Arab world is coalescing against Israel. Looks to me like Netanyahu is endangering Israel more than protecting it.


US support is a fickle thing. People fatigue of sending hundreds of billions overseas while their own country struggles.

No one in this thread has yet explained how funding Israel benefits the people of the US. It's a very simple question. I've asked it like 10 times, and none of the Israel supporters seem to have an answer. If they can't come up with a very good one then US funding or US involvement will eventually become unpopular which could mean the end of the Zionist project altogether.

What do we get out of funding and supporting Israel?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 10, 2023, 07:22:34 PM
israel did 0ct 7 to its self , just like usa did 9/11 to its self....

It sucks that innocents always pay the price for what assholes running countries do. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on November 10, 2023, 07:55:45 PM
Is Zelensky still collecting cheques on his Fill My Pockets Tour?

How are the Joos making out with those filthy Muzzies?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 10, 2023, 08:35:02 PM
Is Zelensky still collecting cheques on his Fill My Pockets Tour?


Times are tough. He registered an account with OnlyFans.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on November 10, 2023, 08:46:12 PM
Times are tough. He registered an account with OnlyFans.

 ;D Excellent!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 10, 2023, 11:33:02 PM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20Clearing%20Map%20November%2010%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 11, 2023, 05:00:14 AM

No one in this thread has yet explained how funding Israel benefits the people of the US. It's a very simple question. I've asked it like 10 times, and none of the Israel supporters seem to have an answer. If they can't come up with a very good one then US funding or US involvement will eventually become unpopular which could mean the end of the Zionist project altogether.

What do we get out of funding and supporting Israel?

Projection of US military power into the Middle East
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 11, 2023, 05:40:37 AM

US House passes $14.5bn military aid package for Israel

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/3/us-house-passes-14-5bn-military-aid-package-for-israel
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 11, 2023, 05:45:40 AM
US House passes $14.5bn military aid package for Israel

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/3/us-house-passes-14-5bn-military-aid-package-for-israel
every cent going to Israel and Ukraine from the USA is borrowed money
The entire US budget is taken up funding things in the USA
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 11, 2023, 05:46:45 AM
US House passes $14.5bn military aid package for Israel

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/3/us-house-passes-14-5bn-military-aid-package-for-israel

Not gonna pass senate/white house without Ukraine aid
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 11, 2023, 07:11:49 AM
Projection of US military power into the Middle East

Not a benefit. That's a liability.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on November 11, 2023, 08:17:03 AM
Projection of US military power into the Middle East

I get you're playing a bit of devil's advocate. My problem with most of the arguments in favor of supporting Israel are that they could be better applied to any other country. Yes, by giving them money and political support we have bought an ally in a strategic area of the world with lots of oil and important shipping passages. But couldn't we just as easily buy the support from a different country that wouldn't give us as much blowback?

I also don't think we have to support Israel to control Iran. I think Iran's neighbors will be forced to contain them if they get too powerful. It doesn't have to be our job to worry about them.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 11, 2023, 09:12:36 AM
Projection of US military power into the Middle East

Even if the EV fantasies come to fruition, passenger vehicles only account for about a 1/4 of oil use. So, oil is gonna be a thing for a long time.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Moontrane on November 11, 2023, 04:10:58 PM
US House passes $14.5bn military aid package for Israel

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/3/us-house-passes-14-5bn-military-aid-package-for-israel

Ramaswamy made an interesting assertion this week, that the US should not give any money to a country with a lower debt to GDP ration than ours.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 11, 2023, 04:19:43 PM
Ramaswamy made an interesting assertion this week, that the US should not give any money to a country with a lower debt to GDP ration than ours.

They’re not “giving” the money per se. It comes with strings attached which are invariably a kickback to a favored industry, in this case weapons manufacturers. Then some of the money comes back to politicians in the form of donations or some bs board seat that pays 500k a year.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 11, 2023, 04:49:39 PM
Ramaswamy made an interesting assertion this week, that the US should not give any money to a country with a lower debt to GDP ration than ours.


He's like Rand Paul. They leave a few people out of the club to speak some sense so there isn't a vacuum filled by an unknown.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 12, 2023, 05:23:53 AM
I get you're playing a bit of devil's advocate. My problem with most of the arguments in favor of supporting Israel are that they could be better applied to any other country. Yes, by giving them money and political support we have bought an ally in a strategic area of the world with lots of oil and important shipping passages. But couldn't we just as easily buy the support from a different country that wouldn't give us as much blowback?

I also don't think we have to support Israel to control Iran. I think Iran's neighbors will be forced to contain them if they get too powerful. It doesn't have to be our job to worry about them.

I’m not playing devils advocate, that’s the unstated reason.  Im sure Zionist lobbyists and donors play a major factor as well.

As far as relying on a different country in that area for an alliance - who?  Israel is the most advanced country in the area, with the strongest military—and is also conveniently dependent on the U.S.  Saudi Arabia might be a contender but they are too powerful with their control of oil supply.

Not a benefit. That's a liability.

Clearly not in the eyes of the US.  I’m open to your position, though - why do yo think it’s a liability?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 12, 2023, 05:35:55 AM
Even if the EV fantasies come to fruition, passenger vehicles only account for about a 1/4 of oil use. So, oil is gonna be a thing for a long time.

Oh absolutely.  Our lifestyle depends on cheap oil.  Not just the gas we put into our personal vehicles but the diesel for our trucks, the fuel for our power plants, and the material that everything gets made out of: plastic.  Hell, even our food supply is dependent on the petroleum industry, as the synthetic fertilizer we use is produced from natural gas.

That brings up another motive for Israel & the U.S. - the massive gas fields found right off the coast of Gaza:
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 13, 2023, 02:58:40 AM
All these Middle Eastern escapades haven't done anything to help the average American. He's worse off now than before Bush lied us into all that shit.

US government war policy doesn't benefit the nation or its people. Vivek was on target. No more being world police. No more pissing away trillions overseas. It's time the US got its own house in order.


The oil war hypothesis doesn't apply here. Why would you need a war in Gaza to get access to offshore oil? Their whole navy is Achmed in a rowboat.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: BEEFCAKE on November 13, 2023, 11:20:24 AM
All these Middle Eastern escapades haven't done anything to help the average American. He's worse off now than before Bush lied us into all that shit.

US government war policy doesn't benefit the nation or its people. Vivek was on target. No more being world police. No more pissing away trillions overseas. It's time the US got its own house in order.


The oil war hypothesis doesn't apply here. Why would you need a war in Gaza to get access to offshore oil? Their whole navy is Achmed in a rowboat.

ukjeff said it before , its all divide and conquer, red team vs blue team,  the whole point of this new fake war is to distract the pleabs from MAUI/UKRAINE/CLOT SHOT/J6 RAY EPPS/AFGHAN WITHDRAW/
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 13, 2023, 12:16:29 PM
ukjeff said it before , its all divide and conquer, red team vs blue team,  the whole point of this new fake war is to distract the pleabs from MAUI/UKRAINE/CLOT SHOT/J6 RAY EPPS/AFGHAN WITHDRAW/

Yup..

A joke actually... Is UKE even still going on??  ::) ::)

Still penetrating???

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=645675.0;attach=761318;image)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 13, 2023, 12:34:14 PM
All these Middle Eastern escapades haven't done anything to help the average American. He's worse off now than before Bush lied us into all that shit.

US government war policy doesn't benefit the nation or its people. Vivek was on target. No more being world police. No more pissing away trillions overseas. It's time the US got its own house in order.


The oil war hypothesis doesn't apply here. Why would you need a war in Gaza to get access to offshore oil? Their whole navy is Achmed in a rowboat.

The more apt comparison would be Afghanistan, where there was a legit initial reason for a military action. Then it turned into an endless, pointless war benefiting only the contractors.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: BEEFCAKE on November 13, 2023, 12:45:55 PM
The more apt comparison would be Afghanistan, where there was a legit initial reason for a military action. Then it turned into an endless, pointless war benefiting only the contractors.
::)

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 14, 2023, 01:03:17 AM
The more apt comparison would be Afghanistan, where there was a legit initial reason for a military action. Then it turned into an endless, pointless war benefiting only the contractors.
Those contractors are the reason we left all that equipment behind. It was not an accidental blunder but planned so the demand for those contractors to build more arsenal.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 14, 2023, 03:07:45 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20Clearing%20Map%20November%2013%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 14, 2023, 06:43:38 AM
All these Middle Eastern escapades haven't done anything to help the average American. He's worse off now than before Bush lied us into all that shit.

US government war policy doesn't benefit the nation or its people. Vivek was on target. No more being world police. No more pissing away trillions overseas. It's time the US got its own house in order.
I agree with you 100% here, but I believe you are under the mistaken impression that the US Government is interested in helping its citizens.  No, the purpose of the US Government is to funnel taxpayer money to private business, and to protect the property and assets owned by those businesses.  Any assistance or benefit enjoyed by an American is incidental. 

Quote
The oil war hypothesis doesn't apply here. Why would you need a war in Gaza to get access to offshore oil? Their whole navy is Achmed in a rowboat.

[PLACEHOLDER]

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2023, 12:33:36 PM
Because they know it’s here..

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on November 14, 2023, 09:14:07 PM


The Al Shifa Hospital... will the HAMAS HQ be found underneath....



GAZA, Nov 15 (Reuters) - The Israeli military said it was carrying out a raid on Wednesday against Hamas militants in Al Shifa Hospital, having urged them to surrender with thousands of Palestinian civilians still sheltering inside Gaza Strip's biggest hospital. Dr. Munir al-Bursh, director-general of the Gaza health ministry, told Al Jazeera television that Israeli forces had raided the western side of the medical complex. Hours later, Gaza health ministry spokesperson Ashraf al-Qidra to Al Jazeera: "The occupation army is now in the basement, and searching the basement.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 14, 2023, 09:36:41 PM
Hamas HQ at al Shifa hospital getting surrounded.

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20Clearing%20Map%20November%2014%2C2023.png)


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on November 14, 2023, 10:48:41 PM
The World needs to get the fuck out of the way and let the real Jews, you know them as Israelis, wipe Hamas out.  If you must be upset with anyone be pissed off and say fuque the Hollyweird Hebrews.  They are your real enemy.

The Jewish side of my family and I spoke.  I am for Israel.  I am also for what the Nazarene taught.  I am still an Atheist but if you had been through what I have, well...I think everyone here would still dead after the first time.  And I guarantee you wouldn't like that. 

Now then.  I hope every cuck here and in the real world gets their ass fucked by their pets.  You did this to the world and you deserve Hell. You bunch of cuckold pussies deserve it.  You know who you are and I know where you will wind up. 

For those here that know me and there are many even if you met me and did not know it or if we have not yet met, I offer this with all the sincerity I have because you are my friends.  My brothers and sisters.

“The Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.” ’

My mother taught me that and that it was to be said for family and friends with all one's heart, mind and soul.

Sleep is death without the responsibility of one's actions or inactions.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 14, 2023, 11:51:30 PM
The World needs to get the fuck out of the way and let the real Jews, you know them as Israelis, wipe Hamas out.  If you must be upset with anyone be pissed off and say fuque the Hollyweird Hebrews.  They are your real enemy.

The Jewish side of my family and I spoke.  I am for Israel.  I am also for what the Nazarene taught.  I am still an Atheist but if you had been through what I have, well...I think everyone here would still dead after the first time.  And I guarantee you wouldn't like that. 

Now then.  I hope every cuck here and in the real world gets their ass fucked by their pets.  You did this to the world and you deserve Hell. You bunch of cuckold pussies deserve it.  You know who you are and I know where you will wind up. 

For those here that know me and there are many even if you met me and did not know it or if we have not yet met, I offer this with all the sincerity I have because you are my friends.  My brothers and sisters.

“The Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.” ’

My mother taught me that and that it was to be said for family and friends with all one's heart, mind and soul.

Sleep is death without the responsibility of one's actions or inactions.

I'm with you Scott

But what about The Hollywood Hebrews?

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 15, 2023, 12:24:35 AM
Because they know it’s here..
But will still vote for democrats.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: The Scott on November 15, 2023, 12:47:01 AM
I'm with you Scott

But what about The Hollywood Hebrews?

My brother Kwon, the Hollyweird Hebrews are the "lost tribe" made real.  They lost their way decades ago and deserve to be shunned for the deviants they are. 

I hear they prefer flat-assed women too.  *SHUDDER*  For that alone they deserve worldwide derision!   ;D
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 17, 2023, 01:01:45 AM
(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/DraftIsraelCOTNovember%2016%2C2023.png)

(https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Gaza%20Clearing%20Map%20November%2016%2C2023.png)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 17, 2023, 01:40:01 AM
Because they know it’s here..

Ironic, Demturdz hate guns, but are the best gun salesmen in US history.

Easily the dumbest kult of kvnts that has ever existed... Everything they touch and do = epic FAIL...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 17, 2023, 06:02:34 AM
You guys may enjoy, or perhaps not, Dave Smith's debate with Laura Loomer on Zero Hedge.

She reps the establishment narrative. Dave doesn't.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Taffin on November 17, 2023, 01:14:30 PM
I'm with you Scott

But what about The Hollywood Hebrews?

Never mind them - how is this affecting Will Smith..?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 17, 2023, 01:19:12 PM
Are HamArse still around ??
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Fortress on November 17, 2023, 01:27:22 PM
World’s fricked.

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: illuminati on November 17, 2023, 01:31:14 PM
This
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 17, 2023, 04:19:02 PM

The Al Shifa Hospital... will the HAMAS HQ be found underneath....



GAZA, Nov 15 (Reuters) - The Israeli military said it was carrying out a raid on Wednesday against Hamas militants in Al Shifa Hospital, having urged them to surrender with thousands of Palestinian civilians still sheltering inside Gaza Strip's biggest hospital. Dr. Munir al-Bursh, director-general of the Gaza health ministry, told Al Jazeera television that Israeli forces had raided the western side of the medical complex. Hours later, Gaza health ministry spokesperson Ashraf al-Qidra to Al Jazeera: "The occupation army is now in the basement, and searching the basement.


It won’t be found, well, nothing more than what’s been found like there’s guns and grenades and shit. They, hamas, is not that sophisticated to have some sort of brain center. They’re just the equivalent of redneck klan people running around shooting off bottle rockets and they got lucky this last time, and it is costing them dearly now.
Title: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: Kwon on November 21, 2023, 08:40:42 AM
According to Scott Ritter, Israel will not exist in 20 years

Title: Re: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on November 21, 2023, 08:55:06 AM
I already watched that. What did you think of it?
Title: Re: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: IroNat on November 21, 2023, 09:26:48 AM
Scott Ritter is a convicted pedo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

Arrests and conviction for sex offenses

Ritter was the subject of two law enforcement sting operations in 2001.[36] He was charged in June 2001 with trying to set up a meeting with an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl.[37][38] He was charged with a misdemeanor crime of "attempted endangerment of the welfare of a child". The charge was dismissed and the record was sealed after he completed six months of pre-trial probation.[38][8]

Ritter was arrested again in November 2009[39] over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site. Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl.[5]

The next month, Ritter waived his right to a preliminary hearing and was released on $25,000 unsecured bail. Charges included "unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, criminal attempt and criminal solicitation".[2] Ritter rejected a plea bargain and was found guilty of all but the criminal attempt count in a courtroom in Monroe County, Pennsylvania, on April 14, 2011.[5][40]

In October 2011, he received a sentence of one and a half to five and a half years in prison.[3] He was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, in March 2012 and paroled in September 2014.[4][7][8]
Title: Re: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: Gym Rat on November 21, 2023, 09:33:37 AM
If degenerate libturdz had their way, Israel would be gone, and it would be filled with Pedo-Palestinians...

Really whacky kvnts those libs..
Title: Re: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: falco on November 21, 2023, 09:39:37 AM
What is the minimum age for a girl to marry in Palestine? 11yo?
Title: Re: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: Dalnet on November 21, 2023, 09:47:29 AM
Scott Ritter is a convicted pedo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

Arrests and conviction for sex offenses

Ritter was the subject of two law enforcement sting operations in 2001.[36] He was charged in June 2001 with trying to set up a meeting with an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl.[37][38] He was charged with a misdemeanor crime of "attempted endangerment of the welfare of a child". The charge was dismissed and the record was sealed after he completed six months of pre-trial probation.[38][8]

Ritter was arrested again in November 2009[39] over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site. Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl.[5]

The next month, Ritter waived his right to a preliminary hearing and was released on $25,000 unsecured bail. Charges included "unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, criminal attempt and criminal solicitation".[2] Ritter rejected a plea bargain and was found guilty of all but the criminal attempt count in a courtroom in Monroe County, Pennsylvania, on April 14, 2011.[5][40]

In October 2011, he received a sentence of one and a half to five and a half years in prison.[3] He was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, in March 2012 and paroled in September 2014.[4][7][8]


WTF. Judge Napolitano has this guy on his YT channel frequently. Had no idea he had been caught doing that kind of stuff. That's wild.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on November 21, 2023, 10:29:29 AM
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According to Scott Ritter, Israel will not exist in 20 years

I think you will always have the radical right or liberal left saying whatever they want to glorify themselves.  I think they have been saying this same quote for 75 years.  Freedom of Speech in America goes both ways.   

This guy hates America, contributes to Russian web sites propaganda, and hates the Middle East policy of the US for years. He even praised Hamas for the Oct 7th attacks on innocent civilians, saying it was ok to kill them.  Wow.  And tried to solicit sex with 15 year olds . Pathetic. 

Title: Re: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: GymnJuice on November 21, 2023, 10:32:25 AM
According to Scott Ritter, Israel will not exist in 20 years



I already watched that. What did you think of it?

I don't see how Israel doesn't exist in 20 years. I think they'll be there for as long as the US is a superpower which will be more than 20 years.
Title: Re: Israel will not exist in 20 years
Post by: Megalodon on November 21, 2023, 11:02:27 AM
If degenerate libturdz had their way, Israel would be gone, and it would be filled with Pedo-Palestinians...

Really whacky kvnts those libs..



Israel is a refuge for American pedophiles(as well as from all over the diasporic world map) as noted by many Israeli articles. Pedophilia is rampant in orthodox communities. Many regard the whole Epstein Island deal as a Mossad blackmailing endeavor. As far as libs, Tel Aviv is the LGTB capitol of the world.

There's a lot more evidence than this but it gets tiresome copying and pasting links:
 


Israel is trying to legalize pedophilia - Avi Maoz
The age of consent in Israel is 16 for all genders but can be as low as 14 provided both parties consent and have a 3-year age gap or less.
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
Israeli far-right lawmaker Avi Maoz accused the Justice Ministry of attempting to normalize pedophilia within the country by altering Israel's age of consent laws.

Currently, the age of consent in Israel is 16 for all genders. However, that age of consent can go as low as 14, provided the other sexual partner was no more than three years older and both parties consented.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-741881
 (https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-741881)

Hollywood director latest sexual predator to find refuge in Israel

https://new.thecradle.co/articles-id/7652
 (https://new.thecradle.co/articles-id/7652)

Tip of the Iceberg': How Foreign Sex Offenders Find Refuge in Israel

While the Interior Ministry says Rabbi Baruch Lanner will not be allowed to make aliyah, advocates’ group says about 100 rabbis, teachers and other figures who have been accused, charged or convicted of sexual abuse overseas have already found refuge in Israel

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000
 (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000)

Many accused Jewish pedophiles in US flee to Israel — report
https://www.timesofisrael.com/many-accused-jewish-pedophiles-in-us-flee-to-israel-report/
 (https://www.timesofisrael.com/many-accused-jewish-pedophiles-in-us-flee-to-israel-report/)

Pedophiles in the ultra-orthodox Haredi sector in Israel: Thought processes regarding their actions.

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-23296-003
 (https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-23296-003)

Israel, the Promised Land for pedophiles
Opinion: Among the tax evaders and smugglers who have found a safe haven in the Jewish state is a particularly nasty subset of criminals who for some reason are allowed to live freely without fear of reprisal for their heinous actions in their own countries

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ByBkeexEI
 (https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ByBkeexEI)
Pedophiles in the Ultra-Orthodox Haredi Sector

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315703844_Pedophiles_in_the_Ultra-Orthodox_Haredi_Sector_in_Israel_Thought_Processes_Regarding_their_Actions (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315703844_Pedophiles_in_the_Ultra-Orthodox_Haredi_Sector_in_Israel_Thought_Processes_Regarding_their_Actions)

Israel Becoming a 'Refuge for Jewish Pedophiles


https://debatepolitics.livejournal.com/233032.html (https://debatepolitics.livejournal.com/233032.html)

Sexual Abuse in the Orthodox Jewish Community: A Literature Review

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1524838020906548
 (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1524838020906548)

Tackling sexual abuse among ultra-Orthodox is especially difficult - analysis

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/tackling-sexual-abuse-among-ultra-orthodox-is-especially-difficult-analysis-662096 (https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/tackling-sexual-abuse-among-ultra-orthodox-is-especially-difficult-analysis-662096)


Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 21, 2023, 11:20:35 AM
This libturd kvnt needs death by castration...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 21, 2023, 11:32:08 AM
This libturd kvnt needs death by castration...

That view is shared by many but Roman Polanski is 90. He'll die of natural causes before served any justice.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 21, 2023, 01:11:50 PM
I think you will always have the radical right or liberal left saying whatever they want to glorify themselves.  I think they have been saying this same quote for 75 years.  Freedom of Speech in America goes both ways.   

This guy hates America, contributes to Russian web sites propaganda, and hates the Middle East policy of the US for years. He even praised Hamas for the Oct 7th attacks on innocent civilians, saying it was ok to kill them.  Wow.  And tried to solicit sex with 15 year olds . Pathetic.

Gotcha, i hadn't heard of him before that video.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 22, 2023, 09:19:19 PM
All as I predicted:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-20/ty-article/.premium/u-s-to-push-israel-to-allow-gaza-offshore-gas-reserves-to-revitalize-palestinian-economy/0000018b-ed90-ddc3-afdb-fdd1ff250000

Quote
U.S. to Push Israel on Allowing Gaza Offshore Gas Reserves to Revitalize Palestinian Economy
Israel gave preliminary approval for the development of a gas field off Gaza's coast in June. 'We shouldn’t exaggerate its potential, but it can absolutely be a revenue stream for a Palestinian government,' says Amos Hochstein, President Biden's energy security advisor, who is currently visiting Israel
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 27, 2023, 11:21:07 AM
Human Rights Watch says rocket misfire likely cause of deadly Gaza hospital blast

GENEVA, Nov 26 (Reuters) - Human Rights Watch (HRW) said on Sunday that evidence suggested a misfired rocket was the likely cause of an explosion that resulted in heavy casualties at a hospital in Gaza on Oct. 17.

The explosion at the Al-Ahli hospital triggered outrage across the Arab world. Palestinians blamed an Israeli air strike, while Israel said it was caused by a misfiring Palestinian rocket launch.

The health ministry in Gaza said 471 people were killed. Israel disputes this figure. An unclassified U.S. intelligence report estimated the death toll "at the low end of the 100 to 300 spectrum".

"The explosion that killed and injured many civilians at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza on October 17, 2023, resulted from an apparent rocket-propelled munition, such as those commonly used by Palestinian armed groups..," HRW said.

It said the findings of its investigation into the explosion were based on a review of photos and videos, satellite imagery and interviews with witnesses and experts.

The Al-Ahli hospital blast was one of the most fiercely disputed incidents in a war marked by accusations from both sides of disinformation and war crimes.

Senior Hamas official Basem Naim told Reuters all indications pointed to Israel's responsibility, adding that the HRW report was biased towards Israel and was not "decisive".

"HRW hasn't come up with any evidence to support their findings nor eyewitness testimonies nor opinion of independent military exports," he said, adding that Hamas received questions from HRW two weeks ago but asked it to delay its report until after the war had ended.

Emmanuel Nahshon, deputy director general for public diplomacy at Israel's Foreign Ministry, criticised the time it took HRW to release its opinion.

"More than a month to reach half heartedly the conclusion the whole world reached after two days," he said on X social messaging network.

Naim said Hamas had offered HRW or any other international investigation committee full cooperation if they were willing to visit Gaza and conduct a thorough probe.

HRW said reports of 471 dead and 342 injured "displays an unusually high killed-to-injured ratio" and appeared to be "out of proportion" with the damage visible on the site.

"Authorities in Gaza and Israel should release the evidence of munition remnants and other information they have regarding the Al-Ahli hospital explosion to allow for a full investigation," HRW crisis and conflict director Ida Sawyer said.

Hospitals have come under bombardment in the Israel-Hamas conflict and all those in the northern part of the enclave have effectively ceased functioning normally, although they continue to house some patients who could not flee as well as people displaced from their homes.

Palestinians accuse Israel of targeting hospitals and schools, while Israel says Hamas uses ordinary Gazans as human shields by placing military positions in civilian buildings.


https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/human-rights-watch-says-rocket-misfire-likely-cause-deadly-gaza-hospital-blast-2023-11-26/
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Ron on November 27, 2023, 11:37:12 AM
From Reuters

RAMALLAH, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Palestinian militants in the West Bank said they had killed two men accused of collaborating with Israeli authorities and hung their bodies up as a warning, underlining growing fears of increased radicalisation as the war in Gaza continues. A statement from the Tulkarm Brigades, a group based in the West Bank city of Tulkarm that is associated with the Fatah faction, said there was "no immunity for any informant or traitor". "We are on the lookout for them and we will hold them accountable," it said, referring to any such person. Footage shared on the Tulkarm Brigades Telegram channel showed a man apparently confessing to working with Israeli security services and providing details of his activities. Other footage, which could not be verified by Reuters, showed two dead bodies and bodies hung from a wall and an electricity pylon in front of angry crowds.



So Palestinians that really want peace with Israel are murdered by Palestinians, who strung up their bodies in front of everyone else that would like peace, and warned.  These Palestinians murdered their own people, and not one tweet, tik tok or news on this, except warning to the others who just want peace. 

Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Royalty on November 27, 2023, 11:40:08 AM
From Reuters

RAMALLAH, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Palestinian militants in the West Bank said they had killed two men accused of collaborating with Israeli authorities and hung their bodies up as a warning, underlining growing fears of increased radicalisation as the war in Gaza continues. A statement from the Tulkarm Brigades, a group based in the West Bank city of Tulkarm that is associated with the Fatah faction, said there was "no immunity for any informant or traitor". "We are on the lookout for them and we will hold them accountable," it said, referring to any such person. Footage shared on the Tulkarm Brigades Telegram channel showed a man apparently confessing to working with Israeli security services and providing details of his activities. Other footage, which could not be verified by Reuters, showed two dead bodies and bodies hung from a wall and an electricity pylon in front of angry crowds.



So Palestinians that really want peace with Israel are murdered by Palestinians, who strung up their bodies in front of everyone else that would like peace, and warned.  These Palestinians murdered their own people, and not one tweet, tik tok or news on this, except warning to the others who just want peace.


Correct. Not every Palestinian supports Hamas.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: deadz on November 27, 2023, 01:49:24 PM
I think you will always have the radical right or liberal left saying whatever they want to glorify themselves.  I think they have been saying this same quote for 75 years.  Freedom of Speech in America goes both ways.   

This guy hates America, contributes to Russian web sites propaganda, and hates the Middle East policy of the US for years. He even praised Hamas for the Oct 7th attacks on innocent civilians, saying it was ok to kill them.  Wow.  And tried to solicit sex with 15 year olds . Pathetic.
Sounds like a complete piece of trash. I'm all for deporting anyone Anti-American and I'd be happy to pay a tax to do so.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 28, 2023, 05:06:47 AM
The gullible bleeding hearts believed Israel bombed a hospital when its now shown to have been caused by a Hamas misfired rocket.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 28, 2023, 05:49:08 AM
The gullible bleeding hearts believed Israel bombed a hospital when its now shown to have been caused by a Hamas misfired rocket.

The lefty-retardz believe anything CNN tells them. Not a braincell in sight...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 28, 2023, 05:54:19 AM
This still even going on???

Hamas/Nazi's still "winning"???  ::)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 28, 2023, 05:55:02 AM
The gullible bleeding hearts believed Israel bombed a hospital when its now shown to have been caused by a Hamas misfired rocket.
nope, the evidence is that it was an Israeli missile, not a rocket
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 28, 2023, 05:56:01 AM
nope, the evidence is that it was an Israeli missile, not a rocket

Hamas using Israeli missiles now?

talk about a misfire!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 28, 2023, 06:15:00 AM
Hamas using Israeli missiles now?

talk about a misfire!

A failed rocket from Hamas.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Griffith on November 28, 2023, 06:25:49 AM
Hamas and 'Palestinian Islamic Jihad' homemade rockets have a '10 percent friendly-fire' rate  :-\

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/10/19/hamas-unwittingly-admits-gaza-rockets-are-prone-to-misfire/
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: beakdoctor on November 28, 2023, 06:32:19 AM
Since this took center stage it's quite funny to see the random, intermittent,  propaganda piece about Ukraine destroying a Russian tank or some such bullshit.

Whatever happened to Ukraine?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 28, 2023, 06:44:33 AM
A failed rocket from Hamas.

Jeff said it was an Israeli Missile.


So it was a failed Israeli Missile from Hamas.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 28, 2023, 06:47:21 AM
nope, the evidence is that it was an Israeli missile, not a rocket

Quote
A human rights organization with a long history of anti-Israel statements and behavior has belatedly acknowledged that “evidence points to [a] misfired rocket” by Palestinian terrorists causing a Gaza hospital explosion last month — drawing silence from far-left members of Congress who blamed the Jewish state for the blast.

Human Rights Watch concluded Sunday that the Oct. 17 explosion at al-Ahli Arab Hospital “resulted from an apparent rocket-propelled munition, such as those commonly used by Palestinian armed groups, that hit hospital grounds.”

“While misfires are frequent, further investigation is needed to determine who launched the apparent rocket and whether the laws of war were violated,” the organization said in a report released Sunday.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 28, 2023, 07:18:55 AM
A failed rocket from Hamas.

I heard T'was a failed missile from Ukraine
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 28, 2023, 07:20:50 AM
I heard T'was a failed missile from Ukraine

I heard those in the Mentzer camp have something to do w/ this...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: loco on November 28, 2023, 07:29:49 AM
Did Russia win yet?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 28, 2023, 07:39:56 AM
Since this took center stage it's quite funny to see the random, intermittent,  propaganda piece about Ukraine destroying a Russian tank or some such bullshit.

Whatever happened to Ukraine?

Apparently, nothing. It has completely fallen off the MSM radar.

The Middle East story at this point is over as well. Oil prices are lower than they were before the initial attack. The Arab world obviously doesn’t give F1 about Gaza. Only leftists think it’s the most important place in the world, just not important enough to board a plane and go there to fight. That could be dangerous.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 28, 2023, 08:28:56 AM
I heard those in the Mentzer camp have something to do w/ this...

Did Ukraine win yet?


Also, why is Israel attacking Ukraine, and why is US bombing Syria, and why is the Mentzer Camp hiding in a Hospital?

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=689549.0;attach=1476225;image)
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: GymnJuice on November 28, 2023, 10:57:02 AM
Did Ukraine win yet?


Also, why is Israel attacking Ukraine, and why is US bombing Syria, and why is the Mentzer Camp hiding in a Hospital?

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=689549.0;attach=1476225;image)

Good point Kwon. Israel should adopt HIT protocols. One intense bombing session every 2 weeks. None of this slow, sustained invasion nonsense.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 28, 2023, 03:20:24 PM
Why is hammas even giving back any hostages? I read they get a 48 hour extension to the truce for every 10 hostages they release. What the fuck happens when they run out of hostages? Do they think that Israel will let them just lay their weapons down and this all goes away? Fight to the death, it’s what will happen anyway. I keep wondering if they’re buying time for Iran or somebody to come to their aid, or blow up the Israeli army once they get them into one spot in Gaza. They can’t just be giving up can they?
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2023, 12:22:12 AM
Why is hammas even giving back any hostages? I read they get a 48 hour extension to the truce for every 10 hostages they release. What the fuck happens when they run out of hostages? Do they think that Israel will let them just lay their weapons down and this all goes away? Fight to the death, it’s what will happen anyway. I keep wondering if they’re buying time for Iran or somebody to come to their aid, or blow up the Israeli army once they get them into one spot in Gaza. They can’t just be giving up can they?
I had the same question. The hostages are the only advantage they have.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: AbrahamG on November 30, 2023, 12:51:40 AM
Why is hammas even giving back any hostages? I read they get a 48 hour extension to the truce for every 10 hostages they release. What the fuck happens when they run out of hostages? Do they think that Israel will let them just lay their weapons down and this all goes away? Fight to the death, it’s what will happen anyway. I keep wondering if they’re buying time for Iran or somebody to come to their aid, or blow up the Israeli army once they get them into one spot in Gaza. They can’t just be giving up can they?

There has to be something brewing, right?  I'd really hate to be one of the last remaining hostages if Israel doesn't extend the cease fire. 
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2023, 05:13:50 AM
Which side you on?



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Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: joswift on November 30, 2023, 07:00:49 AM
One of the released hostages was saying she had been raped and children were shown videos of theur families being murdered

The BBC wont report it because they say they only have her word and there isnt any proof?

Amazingly a woman says Russell Brand raped her 20 years ago and its all over the media
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Gym Rat on November 30, 2023, 07:03:40 AM
One of the released hostages was saying she had been raped and children were shown videos of theur families being murdered

The BBC wont report it because they say they only have her word and there isnt any proof?

Amazingly a woman says Russell Brand raped her 20 years ago and its all over the media

Horrible enemies, this libturd media (and Libturdz in general)...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 30, 2023, 08:35:36 AM
Which side you on?





Kwon, are you in favor of billions of dollars of every American's hard earned dollars being handed over to Israel and/or Ukraine?   
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2023, 09:17:28 AM

Kwon, are you in favor of billions of dollars of every American's hard earned dollars being handed over to Israel and/or Ukraine?   

I am in favor of the American Citizens first and foremost

Fuck Israel AND Ukraine!
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: BEEFCAKE on November 30, 2023, 09:34:53 AM
One of the released hostages was saying she had been raped and children were shown videos of theur families being murdered

The BBC wont report it because they say they only have her word and there isnt any proof?

Amazingly a woman says Russell Brand raped her 20 years ago and its all over the media

the muslim brain works on such a small petty scale , mean while the enemy has them slated for complete and total destruction signed and sealed, great reset style...
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on November 30, 2023, 09:59:33 AM

Kwon, are you in favor of billions of dollars of every American's hard earned dollars being handed over to Israel and/or Ukraine?   

He's not in favor of Ukraine. And he's not American. He's Swede.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Megalodon on November 30, 2023, 10:06:09 AM
I am in favor of the American Citizens first and foremost

Fuck Israel AND Ukraine!


Thank you, brethren! Other decent people, along with myself, want to see Sweden, Ireland, England, and all our European brothers and sisters emancipate yourselves from the ephemeral fetters of derogatory nomenclature such as "racist" or the despicable control-word "anti-semite", and reclaim your countries like no countries have ever been reclaimed before.
Title: Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 01, 2023, 12:31:59 AM
the muslim brain works on such a small petty scale , mean while the enemy has them slated for complete and total destruction signed and sealed, great reset style...
To be fair, that is religion in general.