Author Topic: Dorian Yates vs. Jay Cutler - At their best, who wins? (Read 32029 times)

Parker · « **Reply #50 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:26:01 AM »

Quote from: dyslexic on August 21, 2013, 10:06:21 AM

No comparison.

Now Ronnie at his best to Flex at his best? That one is worth thinking about.

I think Francois stood up better next to Dorian than anyone else actually.

Bob Paris should have been standing next to Rory Leidelmeyer.

I agree on Francois...and Dorian would wiped the floor with wrinkly back Jay...as soon as Dorian turned around, Jay would cry, "Not again! First Ronnie, now Dorian! Why can't I have a great back!"

LATS · « **Reply #51 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:38:06 AM »

Haney was great.. The best for whom he competed against.. As is the measure of any mr. O.. Haney did retire early than he needed to and to those around him he admitted that Dorian was more than he was willing to handle.. In other words he was going to have to up his game and after so many mr o he did not have it I him mentally to do so.. Don't blame him.. As for Dorian.. I like Dorian.. Take his back out of the equation and I don't see the hoopla.. Dorian was dominant then Coleman upped the anty and doriangot out.. And Dorian admitted in a interview once he did not think he could beat the new and improved ronnie.. So each got out before they got dethroned.. Pretty simple..

Branchs Ears · « **Reply #52 on:** August 21, 2013, 11:45:19 AM »

Jay cutler is the most overrated bodybuider ever. EVER.
Yates would absolutely destroy any version of Jay that got near him on a stage.
Yates looked like granite.
Jay always looks like a fucking tanned marshmallow and that would be magnified ten fold standing next to someone like Yates.

Shockwave · « **Reply #53 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:20:17 PM »

Quote from: Branchs Ears on August 21, 2013, 11:45:19 AM

Jay cutler is the most overrated bodybuider ever. EVER.
Yates would absolutely destroy any version of Jay that got near him on a stage.
Yates looked like granite.
Jay always looks like a fucking tanned marshmallow and that would be magnified ten fold standing next to someone like Yates.

This.
IMHO Jay is one of the most overrated mr olympias ever.... dude is literally the best of the rest... once the spectacular guys retired, he was there to pick up the throne. He should nt be uttered in the same sentence with Dorian, Ronnie, Arnold or Haney... they all stood shoulders above everyone else. Jay is one of the "rest".

thebrink · « **Reply #54 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:53:41 PM »

Quote from: oldschoolfan on August 21, 2013, 10:12:09 AM

levrone always considered yates better than coleman

beauty in the eyes of

old-school-lifter · « **Reply #55 on:** August 21, 2013, 07:09:32 PM »

no contest

Dorian easily over Jay- worst Mr O, possibly after Dickerson

old-school-lifter · « **Reply #56 on:** August 21, 2013, 07:11:13 PM »

as for Haney v dorian

Haney easily
beats Dorian on every bodypart including back AND on overall size, shape, symmetry,hardness and condition

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #57 on:** August 21, 2013, 07:12:36 PM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on August 21, 2013, 07:09:32 PM

no contest

Dorian easily over Jay- worst Mr O, possibly after Dickerson

Dickerson no arms, good calves, small, worst MR O ever.

Ron · « **Reply #58 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:01:01 AM »

No question Dorian at a few Olympia's was one of the best ever, definitely the winner in terms of at their best.

Jay Cutler at the Ironman one year here in Los Angeles looked incredible.

delta9mda · « **Reply #59 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:34:18 AM »

1996 German gran prix Yates kills any version of cutler and jay would admit this.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #60 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:52:56 AM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on August 21, 2013, 07:11:13 PM

as for Haney v dorian

Haney easily
beats Dorian on every bodypart including back AND on overall size, shape, symmetry,hardness and condition

Haney easily beats Yates on hardness and condition? I think this pretty much invalidates your opinion on the matter.

Bevo · « **Reply #61 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:55:29 AM »

Quote from: Ron on August 22, 2013, 07:01:01 AM

No question Dorian at a few Olympia's was one of the best ever, definitely the winner in terms of at their best.

Jay Cutler at the Ironman one year here in Los Angeles looked incredible.

I see what u did there

but who's better?

Bevo · « **Reply #62 on:** August 22, 2013, 08:04:32 AM »

How about this:

Would u guys agree that Dex is better than flex, levrone, ray and Cormier ?

He did win the O and has beaten Cormier, levrone. Never beat ray and wheeler though

kyomu · « **Reply #63 on:** August 22, 2013, 09:17:08 AM »

Hardness----Dorian.
Mass------Jay
Separation----Jay
Shape---even

Winner----JAY

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #64 on:** August 22, 2013, 09:31:34 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on August 22, 2013, 07:52:56 AM

Haney easily beats Yates on hardness and condition? I think this pretty much invalidates your opinion on the matter.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #65 on:** August 22, 2013, 09:41:36 AM »

Yates had legendary hardness, back width thickness & detail, and unsurpassed calves in bodybuilding history.

Jay was the guy who won after Coleman retired.

Wiggs · « **Reply #66 on:** August 22, 2013, 09:43:27 AM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on August 22, 2013, 09:41:36 AM

Jay was the guy who won after Coleman retired.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #67 on:** August 22, 2013, 09:54:35 AM »

Quote from: Tito24 on August 21, 2013, 10:35:17 AM

chris dickerson was gay

Jay lives with a male fitness model $:-\$

delta9mda · « **Reply #68 on:** August 22, 2013, 10:01:20 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on August 22, 2013, 09:17:08 AM

Hardness----Dorian.
Mass------Jay
Separation----Jay
Shape---even

Winner----JAY

The Ugly · « **Reply #69 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:15:36 AM »

If things had played out, Yates beats Haney, Yates beats Jay, Coleman beats Yates. Simple.

Shockwave · « **Reply #70 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:17:12 AM »

Quote from: Ron on August 22, 2013, 07:01:01 AM

No question Dorian at a few Olympia's was one of the best ever, definitely the winner in terms of at their best.

Jay Cutler at the Ironman one year here in Los Angeles looked incredible.

RON HAS SPOKEN

IronMeister · « **Reply #71 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:17:36 AM »

Wiggs · « **Reply #72 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:18:45 AM »

Quote from: IronMeister on August 22, 2013, 11:17:36 AM

lol. Welcome back bro.

IronMeister · « **Reply #73 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:19:59 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on August 22, 2013, 11:18:45 AM

lol. Welcome back bro.

Thanks bro

The Ugly · « **Reply #74 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:22:46 AM »

Quote from: kohl on August 22, 2013, 11:18:34 AM

Just can't compare Haney to Yates. It's another era. It's not fair towards Haney.

True, but same goes for Arnold vs. Haney, and, to some extent, Yates vs. Coleman.