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This crap was common knowledge 20 years ago fyi, this isn't an all of a sudden thing that took some high end leading research using AI to figure out.
The reason we all have Ukrainian friends is because anyone that could left in the 90s/00s.
The west killed Ukraine with their ignorant bullshit, they're being used as Canon fodder by Eurotrash.
They believe Putin is literally hitler, and yet they can't lift a finger to fund their own god dam military. The Ukrianians are being used as canon fodder so the Eurotrash can avoid buying American made weapons systems.
What eurotrash garbage. Ukrainian blood is on their hands.
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Putin is as close to Hitler as it gets. Russia is killing Ukraine with its ignorant bullshit.
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Putin is as close to Hitler as it gets. Russia is killing Ukraine with its ignorant bullshit.
Last I checked Hitler never went on a campaign to kill every day Christian Austrians.
The Ukrainian people would have been fine if they had surrendered.
There'd be a few hundred thousand that would have to flee for political reasons(less than the total dead now), but otherwise people would be way way way better off than they are now.
Again cowards using Ukrainian people as canon fodder.
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Last I checked Hitler never went on a campaign to kill every day Christian Austrians.
The Ukrainian people would have been fine if they had surrendered.
There'd be a few hundred thousand that would have to flee for political reasons(less than the total dead now), but otherwise people would be way way way better off than they are now.
Again cowards using Ukrainian people as canon fodder.
I don't think you understand the situation. First and foremost Ukraine like any country has the right to defend itself. Surrender would have meant the end of Ukraine, the "denazification" of Ukrainian identity and culture, the cleansing of the schools with correct pro Russian dogma and the persecution of Ukrainians as an inferior people worthy of great disrespect. Russia drops missiles on Ukrainian cities daily, why would you think everything would be fine living under a country that treats you like that?
Ukrainians are fighting for their own interests first and foremost. Any mention of protecting democracy is an afterthought. You don't know the correct death figures, neither Zelensky or the Kremlins figures are accurate, but Russian KIA is much higher like a 10/1 ratio due to numbers and fighting style.
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The eu should have helped a lot more, a hell of a lot more.
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I don't think you understand the situation. First and foremost Ukraine like any country has the right to defend itself.
If someone holds a 12 gauge to your temple you have the legal right to defend yourself. But if you're some turd on the sidelines urging that person to fight back you deserve to be in their situation.
This is literally 99% of people who are "pro Ukraine". Aka watching the Ukrianian race be erased by fighting a pointless war. All so Eurotrash can avoid purchasing their own American made weapons systems
Surrender would have meant the end of Ukraine,
Did you not understand the video? The Ukraine has been wiped off the face of the Earth because of the war.
Most men capable of rebuilding the country will either be dead/traumatized or fighting to get out of the country once the dust stops glowing.
In 2100 the Ukraine will have less than 2 million people living it. That's how bad the population projections are. The country is done cooked toast. It's gonna see a 98% population reduction(correction 5,000%) from 1990 and 2100.
the "denazification" of Ukrainian identity and culture, the cleansing of the schools with correct pro Russian dogma and the persecution of Ukrainians as an inferior people worthy of great disrespect.
What farcical nonsense are you getting on with, Russia has a demographic crisis of its own, they want Ukraine as part of their Russian society in large part to bump up their population numbers.
The irony of the "denazification", is that yes the ultra nationalists would be completely fucked, because no one in their right mind would give these nutjobs refugee status. But any regular Ukrianian would obviously and should be given full refugees status in the west if they so wanted it.
You're just getting on with paranoid rhetoric that has zero coherence. Pre war there was no hatred of Ukranians. Russia has gone out of it's way to embrace central asian migrants from Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan etc. If they are activelly taking in muslims, you think there's any geopolitical advantage to having a war on ethnic Ukrainians.
You're just spewing absolute nonsense. Hitler isn't gonna exterminate Austria.
Russia drops missiles on Ukrainian cities daily, why would you think everything would be fine living under a country that treats you like that?
Lets it's way way way way too fucking late now. It's a forever war that can never and will never end until both sides run out of canon fodder. This is the crap people like yourself started. A never winnable war.
Ukrainians are fighting for their own interests first and foremost.
What interests are those? Tell me, let's pretend my brother in law is over there right now, what's his interest in all this?
What is he getting, what's victory?
Any mention of protecting democracy is an afterthought. You don't know the correct death figures, neither Zelensky or the Kremlins figures are accurate,
I really don't care if it's Russians or Ukrainians dying. Either or sucks. Like do you even know any Russians/Ukrainians?
There's some of the best people I've ever met/worked with etc. I don't have Russian friends and Ukrainians friends separated on my friends list(although one of Ukrianian friends had to be a dick about that crap).
but Russian KIA is much higher like a 10/1 ratio due to numbers and fighting style.
That's just absolute nonsense. The KDR was bad for Russia 24 months ago, that obviously changed as the warfare turned to more to a traditional slog fest. Russia has the numerical advantage. And Russia Moral is way way higher at this point because they have no choice. Ukrainians know or want to go west, where people in Russia know they are trapped, there's no future for Russians if they give up.
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The eu should have helped a lot more, a hell of a lot more.
This is what Ukrainian Surrender would have looked like. Depressing oppressive scary.
Contrast that to what Hitler did to Poland. I'd love to show you pictures, but I'm pretty sure the mods on this site would terminate my account if I gave you accurate depiction of what "Poles romantically fighting for their country" looked like.
And no Putin isn't Hitler. The Marine corp (forget navy/airforce/army) could level russia in their sleep.
This has nothing to do with fears of Putin going into Poland etc. It's about the Eurotrash not wanting to purchase the deterrents that would keep Putin out of Estonia/Latvia/Lithania/Poland/Slovakia/Romania.
The Eurotrash would rather watch a million Ukrianians/Russian be violent snuffed out of existance, rather than buy a few dozen American made F35's.
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In 2100 the Ukraine will have less than 2 million people living it. That's how bad the population projections are. The country is done cooked toast. It's gonna see a 98% population reduction(correction 5,000%) from 1990 and 2100.
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This crap was common knowledge 20 years ago fyi, this isn't an all of a sudden thing that took some high end leading research using AI to figure out.
The reason we all have Ukrainian friends is because anyone that could left in the 90s/00s.
The west killed Ukraine with their ignorant bullshit, they're being used as Canon fodder by Eurotrash.
They believe Putin is literally hitler, and yet they can't lift a finger to fund their own god dam military. The Ukrianians are being used as canon fodder so the Eurotrash can avoid buying American made weapons systems.
What eurotrash garbage. Ukrainian blood is on their hands.
OAK thought they were winning!
Just a matter of time now!
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This crap was common knowledge 20 years ago fyi, this isn't an all of a sudden thing that took some high end leading research using AI to figure out.
The reason we all have Ukrainian friends is because anyone that could left in the 90s/00s.
The west killed Ukraine with their ignorant bullshit, they're being used as Canon fodder by Eurotrash.
They believe Putin is literally hitler, and yet they can't lift a finger to fund their own god dam military. The Ukrianians are being used as canon fodder so the Eurotrash can avoid buying American made weapons systems.
What eurotrash garbage. Ukrainian blood is on their hands.
This is why Macron (Rothschild Agent) wants to send NATO troops to Ukraine. To make it look like they are not losing. Perhaps this is all part of the depopulation agenda for the world, with Russia in on the agenda. You never know. I personally think Churchill and Hitler were both agents of the Rothschilds. The overarching agenda was to reduce the White populations of Europe / Russia and to a certain extent the USA. Though the USA's losses were miniscule compared to Russia, Germany, France and the UK.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/18/emmanuel-macron-is-about-to-face-five-years-of-crazy-conspiracy-theories/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron
Born in Amiens, Macron studied philosophy at Paris Nanterre University, later completing a master's degree in public affairs at Sciences Po and graduating from the École nationale d'administration in 2004. He worked as a senior civil servant at the Inspectorate General of Finances and later became an investment banker at Rothschild & Co.
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Yes, they see Ukraine / Khazaria as their homeland, before they converted to Judaism.
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Zelensky said Ukraine's casualties after 2 years are 31,000. Did he send Sean Penn or bhank to count them?
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If this was a real war Ukraine would have been wiped out in an hour.
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If this was a real war Ukraine would have been wiped out in an hour.
Do you really believe that? You believe that Russia would bleed its men out for what? The myth of Russian invincibility was busted long ago.
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This is what Ukrainian Surrender would have looked like. Depressing oppressive scary.
Contrast that to what Hitler did to Poland. I'd love to show you pictures, but I'm pretty sure the mods on this site would terminate my account if I gave you accurate depiction of what "Poles romantically fighting for their country" looked like.
And no Putin isn't Hitler. The Marine corp (forget navy/airforce/army) could level russia in their sleep.
This has nothing to do with fears of Putin going into Poland etc. It's about the Eurotrash not wanting to purchase the deterrents that would keep Putin out of Estonia/Latvia/Lithania/Poland/Slovakia/Romania.
The Eurotrash would rather watch a million Ukrianians/Russian be violent snuffed out of existance, rather than buy a few dozen American made F35's.
Eurotrash was a seedy late night steam fest on TV I used to watch. I am European. Your logic about the war being because Europe does not want to buy weapons is ridiculous. Ukraine and Russia are not friendly neighbours, in your fantasy land only.
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If someone holds a 12 gauge to your temple you have the legal right to defend yourself. But if you're some turd on the sidelines urging that person to fight back you deserve to be in their situation.
This is literally 99% of people who are "pro Ukraine". Aka watching the Ukrianian race be erased by fighting a pointless war. All so Eurotrash can avoid purchasing their own American made weapons systems
No one on the sidelines told Ukraine that they must fight back, it was in their own desire to do so, they did not wish to be 'liberated' by your army. The Ukrainian race is alive as a distinct people from Russia precisely because they did fight back. And this nonsense regarding the reason for the war being because Europe does not want to buy fighter jets? What are you smoking because I don't want to try.
Did you not understand the video? The Ukraine has been wiped off the face of the Earth because of the war.
Most men capable of rebuilding the country will either be dead/traumatized or fighting to get out of the country once the dust stops glowing.
In 2100 the Ukraine will have less than 2 million people living it. That's how bad the population projections are. The country is done cooked toast. It's gonna see a 98% population reduction(correction 5,000%) from 1990 and 2100.
What farcical nonsense are you getting on with, Russia has a demographic crisis of its own, they want Ukraine as part of their Russian society in large part to bump up their population numbers.
The irony of the "denazification", is that yes the ultra nationalists would be completely fucked, because no one in their right mind would give these nutjobs refugee status. But any regular Ukrianian would obviously and should be given full refugees status in the west if they so wanted it.
the regular folk of Bucha were not ultra nationalists
You're just getting on with paranoid rhetoric that has zero coherence. Pre war there was no hatred of Ukranians. Russia has gone out of it's way to embrace central asian migrants from Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan etc. If they are activelly taking in muslims, you think there's any geopolitical advantage to having a war on ethnic Ukrainians.
your lord Putler is the one spewing paranoid rhetoric. Threatening nuclear war like a big sick baby
You're just spewing absolute nonsense. Hitler isn't gonna exterminate Austria.
Lets it's way way way way too fucking late now. It's a forever war that can never and will never end until both sides run out of canon fodder. This is the crap people like yourself started. A never winnable war.
What interests are those? Tell me, let's pretend my brother in law is over there right now, what's his interest in all this?
What is he getting, what's victory?
If this brother in law was Ukrainian he would value his land remaining Ukrainian land, not governed from Moscow under a repressive regime he knows all too well
I really don't care if it's Russians or Ukrainians dying. Either or sucks. Like do you even know any Russians/Ukrainians?
My girlfriend and her boys age 8 and 14
There's some of the best people I've ever met/worked with etc. I don't have Russian friends and Ukrainians friends separated on my friends list(although one of Ukrianian friends had to be a dick about that crap).
That's just absolute nonsense. The KDR was bad for Russia 24 months ago, that obviously changed as the warfare turned to more to a traditional slog fest. Russia has the numerical advantage. And Russia Moral is way way higher at this point because they have no choice. Ukrainians know or want to go west, where people in Russia know they are trapped, there's no future for Russians if they give up.
Russia has the numerical advantage but higher causality rate that's the facts. Russian moral is high now because Ukraine has been let down by her western partners. There is no future for Ukrainians if they give up and accept Russian dominion either.
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Russia has the numerical advantage but higher causality rate that's the facts. Russian moral is high now because Ukraine has been let down by her western partners. There is no future for Ukrainians if they give up and accept Russian dominion either.
Let down? Zelensky received hundreds of billions in cash and weapons that no other country has gotten.
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Let down? Zelensky received hundreds of billions in cash and weapons that no other country has gotten.
Ukraine was on the front foot but because of lack of support and support getting to the battlefield where it is needed the tide turned. In that sense the war is between Nato and Russia.
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Ukraine was on the front foot but because of lack of support and support getting to the battlefield where it is needed the tide turned. In that sense the war is between Nato and Russia.
The U.S. has prioritized funding that little shit Zelensky over securing our own border.
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The U.S. has prioritized funding that little shit Zelensky over securing our own border.
Its called Ukraine. Defeating Russia in this war is very important for the USA on the world stage.
Alot of the funding that is being held up would go towards weapons manufacture within the States thus boosting the economy.
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Its called Ukraine. Defeating Russia in this war is very important for the USA on the world stage.
Alot of the funding that is being held up would go towards weapons manufacture within the States thus boosting the economy.
If it’s so important, why don’t we declare war on Russia? We spend more on our military than every other country in the world combined. If Putin is such a threat, why leave it to the undermanned Ukrainians to take him out?
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Do you really believe that? You believe that Russia would bleed its men out for what? The myth of Russian invincibility was busted long ago.
If Russia wanted to they could have done a shock and awe on Ukraine like USA did in Iraq. No need to send in troops before you bomb the fuck out of the opponent. They held back because they care about Ukrainians more than USA cared about Iraqis.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-threatens-destroy-poland-1872956
Putin Ally Threatens to 'Destroy' Poland: 'We Won't Even Think Twice'
After vowing the Russia would never "leave" or "negotiate" with Europe, Solovyov turned his attention to Poland, a strategically located NATO member state that has recently bolstered its defenses to prepare for the possibility that Russia's war in Ukraine could expand. Solovyov asserted that while Russia feels "sorry for" its "brothers" in Ukraine, Moscow would show no hesitation in wiping out Polish cities "in an instant."
"Do the Poles want to be next? They are not Ukrainians," Solovyov said, according to Gerashchenko's translation. "We will not treat them like brothers. We'll bloody destroy all those cities in an instant, without using ground troops. It's Ukraine we feel sorry for, but there [in Poland] we'll fight like the Americans in Iraq.
"We will simply, I am not sure about nuclear strikes, but with missile strikes and air strikes, I am sure, we will just freaking destroy them," he continued. "And we won't even think twice."
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If it’s so important, why don’t we declare war on Russia? We spend more on our military than every other country in the world combined. If Putin is such a threat, why leave it to the undermanned Ukrainians to take him out?
Because they want to see Ukrainians die - as they did in the Holodomor. The same group of people that starved/murdered Ukrainians are controlling Ukraine right now. If the Ukrainians had balls they'd take their country back by any means necessary. The current regime was installed by the US in the 2014 coup.
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Because they want to see Ukrainians die - as they did in the Holodomor. The same group of people that starved/murdered Ukrainians are controlling Ukraine right now. If the Ukrainians had balls they'd take their country back by any means necessary. The current regime was installed by the US in the 2014 coup.
IMO, it’s more about feeding the military industrial complex. I remember when the war started, Babylon bee ran a headline that said, “Loud roar heard in Lockheed Martin boardroom.”
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Do you really believe that? You believe that Russia would bleed its men out for what? The myth of Russian invincibility was busted long ago.
Of course I believe that. Ukraine is a pathetic little nothing and if Russia wanted to it would be over in hours. Never said they were invincible but let’s be real here. Thats like saying the USA would have a problem with Mexico.
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Because they want to see Ukrainians die - as they did in the Holodomor. The same group of people that starved/murdered Ukrainians are controlling Ukraine right now. If the Ukrainians had balls they'd take their country back by any means necessary. The current regime was installed by the US in the 2014 coup.
some people watch too much TV....
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=688548.msg10096773#msg10096773
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I don't think you understand the situation. First and foremost Ukraine like any country has the right to defend itself.
So can Ukraine go ahead and send our money and weapons back to the US and defend itself then?
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I still think it’s funny seeing Ukrainian soldiers smashing Russian soldiers with home alone booby traps AKA Chapelle😂😂😂
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Russia has the numerical advantage but higher causality rate that's the facts. Russian moral is high now because Ukraine has been let down by her western partners. There is no future for Ukrainians if they give up and accept Russian dominion either.
"western partners" do you not get they are just canon fodder. No one cares about Ukraine, anymore than they actually care about Gaza/Iraq/Kurds/Azeri's/Pashtuns you name it.
People were happy to hoover up a caravan of white women, and once they left Ukraine they stopped caring.
No one on the sidelines told Ukraine that they must fight back, it was in their own desire to do so, they did not wish to be 'liberated' by your army. The Ukrainian race is alive as a distinct people from Russia precisely because they did fight back. And this nonsense regarding the reason for the war being because Europe does not want to buy fighter jets? What are you smoking because I don't want to try.
They fought back, because their government at every level was convinced by western governments at every level that we were "partners".
Yes the west "partnered" up with Ukraine, because they were cheaper than arming border states that were actually part of NATO.
the regular folk of Bucha were not ultra nationalists
Tell me more about how people who had nothing to do with the war are getting slaughtered.
I'm not a Russia schill, Russia ain't no good guy, your arguments don't work.
your lord Putler is the one spewing paranoid rhetoric. Threatening nuclear war like a big sick baby
And what do you think the plan is for nuclear war? If Putin Nukes Kiev(which he is totally capable of doing), then what?
If this brother in law was Ukrainian he would value his land remaining Ukrainian land, not governed from Moscow under a repressive regime he knows all too well
When you have a demographic collapse underway your land is worthless, it's worthless dirt. People are dying so the ruskies can't get their worthless dirt.
But you're right Ukrainian people are so free right now. So free from oppression. Things were so much worst back in the day.
My girlfriend and her boys age 8 and 14
And think for a moment, why aren't they in eastern Europe?
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Its called Ukraine. Defeating Russia in this war is very important for the USA on the world stage.
Are you really that delusional, no one wants a Russian defeat. That would be an absolute trainwreck for the west, as you'd instantly have a very politically unstable Russia. Believe it or not a series of Russian civil wars is far bigger concern for the west, than a worthless borderland.
The west is happy we got the women and children, Ukraine is like an empty cardboard wrapper at this point.
Alot of the funding that is being held up would go towards weapons manufacture within the States thus boosting the economy.
So would throwing money at 100 other things or simply doing a tax cut.
60 billion is literally a $200 per head tax cut.
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Of course I believe that. Ukraine is a pathetic little nothing and if Russia wanted to it would be over in hours. Never said they were invincible but let’s be real here. Thats like saying the USA would have a problem with Mexico.
THIS
joo sa caused this shit by lying to russia repeatedly through nato (joo sa is nato btw) they would not expand nato eastward but the lying sacks of shit did so
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Even though Goliathon is half black, i find him entertaining and a reasonable bloke
More intelligent than i first thought! (Much more intelligent and wise than his Ghetto Brethren)
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The eu should have helped a lot more, a hell of a lot more.
Why? Are they the welfare of the world?
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Lettuce be real here...
EU should stay away from that conflict, already wasted too much money and resources on a losing investment
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Lettuce be real here...
EU should stay away from that conflict, already wasted too much money and resources on a losing investment
p.s. joo sa tells you what to do and you obey them
joo sa says to you "jump" and you say "how high master?"
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If Russia wanted to they could have done a shock and awe on Ukraine like USA did in Iraq. No need to send in troops before you bomb the fuck out of the opponent. They held back because they care about Ukrainians more than USA cared about Iraqis.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-threatens-destroy-poland-1872956
Putin Ally Threatens to 'Destroy' Poland: 'We Won't Even Think Twice'
After vowing the Russia would never "leave" or "negotiate" with Europe, Solovyov turned his attention to Poland, a strategically located NATO member state that has recently bolstered its defenses to prepare for the possibility that Russia's war in Ukraine could expand. Solovyov asserted that while Russia feels "sorry for" its "brothers" in Ukraine, Moscow would show no hesitation in wiping out Polish cities "in an instant."
"Do the Poles want to be next? They are not Ukrainians," Solovyov said, according to Gerashchenko's translation. "We will not treat them like brothers. We'll bloody destroy all those cities in an instant, without using ground troops. It's Ukraine we feel sorry for, but there [in Poland] we'll fight like the Americans in Iraq.
"We will simply, I am not sure about nuclear strikes, but with missile strikes and air strikes, I am sure, we will just freaking destroy them," he continued. "And we won't even think twice."
They bomb the fuck out of civilian targets every day, they torture and rape those within the possessed lands, yeah so deeply caring ::)
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Because they want to see Ukrainians die - as they did in the Holodomor. The same group of people that starved/murdered Ukrainians are controlling Ukraine right now. If the Ukrainians had balls they'd take their country back by any means necessary. The current regime was installed by the US in the 2014 coup.
the majority of Ukrainians wanted the pro Russian government out of power why is this so hard to accept?
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Of course I believe that. Ukraine is a pathetic little nothing and if Russia wanted to it would be over in hours. Never said they were invincible but let’s be real here. Thats like saying the USA would have a problem with Mexico.
Believe whatever you wish but its nonsense. Why would they bleed out hundreds of thousands of men if they could do that? Russia had to beat a retreat from Kyiv because they got their asses kicked.
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So can Ukraine go ahead and send our money and weapons back to the US and defend itself then?
Obviously not. Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in the 90's on oath from Russia that it would not be attacked. Now look.
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joo sa caused this shit by lying to russia repeatedly through nato (joo sa is nato btw) they would not expand nato eastward but the lying sacks of shit did so
And now Russia has got more Nato not less on its doorstep. Ukraine was not going to join Nato.
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Russia and Ukraine need to log in here to recruit war experts on how to move FWD. ;)
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"western partners" do you not get they are just canon fodder. No one cares about Ukraine, anymore than they actually care about Gaza/Iraq/Kurds/Azeri's/Pashtuns you name it.
People were happy to hoover up a caravan of white women, and once they left Ukraine they stopped caring.
They fought back, because their government at every level was convinced by western governments at every level that we were "partners".
Yes the west "partnered" up with Ukraine, because they were cheaper than arming border states that were actually part of NATO.
Tell me more about how people who had nothing to do with the war are getting slaughtered.
I'm not a Russia schill, Russia ain't no good guy, your arguments don't work.
And what do you think the plan is for nuclear war? If Putin Nukes Kiev(which he is totally capable of doing), then what?
When you have a demographic collapse underway your land is worthless, it's worthless dirt. People are dying so the ruskies can't get their worthless dirt.
But you're right Ukrainian people are so free right now. So free from oppression. Things were so much worst back in the day.
And think for a moment, why aren't they in eastern Europe?
Because they had freedom of choice to move within Europe. Poland can't take in 100 percent of Ukrainian refugees.
If Putin nukes Kyiv which he wont because he wants it to be HIS hub, then it would garner a similar response from Nato.
Yes, innocent people slaughtered because Russian soldiers were brainwashed in to thinking they were on some great denazification mission. "Where are the nazis" they asked the old Babushkas.
The people of Ukraine fought back, they were not going to welcome Russian "liberation" It was not a matter of government or outside control, without the will of the people to fight the war would have been lost after 3 days.
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Are you really that delusional, no one wants a Russian defeat. That would be an absolute trainwreck for the west, as you'd instantly have a very politically unstable Russia. Believe it or not a series of Russian civil wars is far bigger concern for the west, than a worthless borderland.
The west is happy we got the women and children, Ukraine is like an empty cardboard wrapper at this point.
So would throwing money at 100 other things or simply doing a tax cut.
60 billion is literally a $200 per head tax cut.
Ukraine is not a worthless borderland, it is a prize possession Russia wants for itself. A Russia defeat, and a New World Order defeat would be a good thing. But Russia is not fighting the good fight, not standing up for any high moral values at all.
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This crap was common knowledge 20 years ago fyi, this isn't an all of a sudden thing that took some high end leading research using AI to figure out.
The reason we all have Ukrainian friends is because anyone that could left in the 90s/00s.
The west killed Ukraine with their ignorant bullshit, they're being used as Canon fodder by Eurotrash.
They believe Putin is literally hitler, and yet they can't lift a finger to fund their own god dam military. The Ukrianians are being used as canon fodder so the Eurotrash can avoid buying American made weapons systems.
What eurotrash garbage. Ukrainian blood is on their hands.
What a nasty, short-sighted, and bigoted statement. Ukrainian men are putting up their lives to defend their country and their people - this wives, elderly, children, and future generations. That deserves respect.
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What a nasty, short-sighted, and bigoted statement. Ukrainian men are putting up their lives to defend their country and their people - this wives, elderly, children, and future generations. That deserves respect.
It sucks (like all wars) the powers that be used citizens to fight the wars they create, while they sit up there in their high-castles..
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Russia and Ukraine need to log in here to recruit war experts on how to move FWD. ;)
I got a direct line to Mr. P bro
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It sucks (like all wars) the powers that be used citizens to fight the wars they create, while they sit up there in their high-castles..
Yep
Would love to torture the American ones😉
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I got a direct line to Mr. P bro
call him up and offer to suck his testicles then Orc.
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Russia doesn't care how may soldiers they lose they are playing the long game. Soon enough the USA and other countries will get bored and find something else to worry about then the Ukraine will be theirs for the taking.
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Russia doesn't care how may soldiers they lose they are playing the long game. Soon enough the USA and other countries will get bored and find something else to worry about then the Ukraine will be theirs for the taking.
Yep they will take east Ukraine and probably Odessa
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What a nasty, short-sighted, and bigoted statement. Ukrainian men are putting up their lives to defend their country and their people - this wives, elderly, children, and future generations. That deserves respect.
Their kids have already left ukraine that's the point.
Ukraine is destined to be a gigantic ghost town country.
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Believe whatever you wish but its nonsense. Why would they bleed out hundreds of thousands of men if they could do that? Russia had to beat a retreat from Kyiv because they got their asses kicked.
Texas could smoke Ukraine. Never mind Russia.
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Russia doesn't care how may soldiers they lose they are playing the long game. Soon enough the USA and other countries will get bored and find something else to worry about then the Ukraine will be theirs for the taking.
It has already happened. The public has turned on the establishment Republicans who want to keep the money flowing to Ukraine. When Trump comes in, that’s gonna stop completely.
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Russia doesn't care how may soldiers they lose they are playing the long game. Soon enough the USA and other countries will get bored and find something else to worry about then the Ukraine will be theirs for the taking.
Bird Flu 2025
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Putin is as close to Hitler as it gets. Russia is killing Ukraine with its ignorant bullshit.
You are as dumb as you look.
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You are as dumb as you look.
He isn’t going there to fight, so, he’s not that dumb.😁
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You are as dumb as you look.
yep
he's a dumb fuck
sub 80 IQ
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Texas could smoke Ukraine. Never mind Russia.
Well why didn't Russia succeed in getting in to Kyiv? Because they got thier asses handed to them. Stop with the delusional worship.
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You are as dumb as you look.
So those who are Russia worshippers are all smart?
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yep
he's a dumb fuck
sub 80 IQ
Your a 52 year old pedo living off his mother's money and you consider yourself smart Orc?
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Well why didn't Russia succeed in getting in to Kyiv? Because they got thier asses handed to them. Stop with the delusional worship.
You think this is a real war and not a money grab? This pretend war is nothing more than lining the pockets of Putin,zelensky and Biden and his puppeteers.
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You think this is a real war and not a money grab? This pretend war is nothing more than lining the pockets of Putin,zelensky and Biden and his puppeteers.
russia could have flattened them in 3 day TOPS
they aren't sacks of shit like americans
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russia could have flattened them in 3 day TOPS
they aren't sacks of shit like americans
Is that why they ran with tails between legs from Kyiv? Delusional fuck.
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You think this is a real war and not a money grab? This pretend war is nothing more than lining the pockets of Putin,zelensky and Biden and his puppeteers.
Again nonsense and an insult to the dead. Putins reasons for invading were not about lining his own pockets.
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Honestly thought Russia might have given up thinking it wasn't really worth of the effort to win, seeing how it wasn't easy as expected. Because from the beginning they didn't expect Ukraine to be backed so heavily by US and EU.
But they/Putin seems to be pretty determined to win Ukraine regardless of losses on both sides and cost.
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Again nonsense and an insult to the dead. Putins reasons for invading were not about lining his own pockets.
You have your opinion and I have mine. Money is the only motivation for anything these people do. I don’t care for Russians you can quit that bullshit. To think that Ukraine stands a chance against russia is just absolute denial. Don’t think Putin,zelensky or Biden and company give one fuck about any of the dead? The answer is no they don’t.
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You have your opinion and I have mine. Money is the only motivation for anything these people do. I don’t care for Russians you can quit that bullshit. To think that Ukraine stands a chance against russia is just absolute denial. Don’t think Putin,zelensky or Biden and company give one fuck about any of the dead? The answer is no they don’t.
BINGO
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You have your opinion and I have mine. Money is the only motivation for anything these people do. I don’t care for Russians you can quit that bullshit. To think that Ukraine stands a chance against russia is just absolute denial. Don’t think Putin,zelensky or Biden and company give one fuck about any of the dead? The answer is no they don’t.
But the Western leaders love Ukrainians, they care so much about them that they have been using them as cannon fodder for over 2 years in the hopes of Russia expending all their ammunition.
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But the Western leaders love Ukrainians, they care so much about them that they have been using them as cannon fodder for over 2 years in the hopes of Russia expending all their ammunition.
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Douglas MacGregor says the same
as does The King Mr. Roger Waters
awesome vid to this tune
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well why didn't Russia succeed in getting in to Kyiv? Because they got thier asses handed to them. Stop with the delusional worship.
That's largely because the Russian army was hyper disorganized at the time. And the Ukrainians had top level American intel telling them exactly what and where to do things.
That USA-Ukie arrangement only started to break down, when Ukrainians realized they were deliberately being used as canon fodder.
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Ukraine has been a pawn of NATO to permanently weaken Russia.
The objective is for Russia to lose a generation of youth. Demographically wreck them.
The Ukes are cannon fodder.
Brutal and ruthless strategy.
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Meanwhile in all of this China gets stronger and stronger. WTF.
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Meanwhile in all of this China gets stronger and stronger. WTF.
Are you shitting me they're on the verge of a zimbawe styled collapse.
They have one industry, manufacturing and that is heavily subsidized.
When that falls apart they're fucked.
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Are you shitting me they're on the verge of a zimbawe styled collapse.
They have one industry, manufacturing and that is heavily subsidized.
When that falls apart they're fucked.
they have doubled their nuclear arsenal in the last 10 years
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Ukraine has been a pawn of NATO to permanently weaken Russia.
The objective is for Russia to lose a generation of youth. Demographically wreck them.
The Ukes are cannon fodder.
Brutal and ruthless strategy.
is that your own theory or found it on some youtube conspiracy channel?
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Some cool improvising by Blackmore in here:
i=VzoIWsfCNoxImL0O
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I admit I don't know shit about war but is it really necessary to sacrifice all those men, can't you just bomb and bomb from above?
It's just really hard for me to stomach how both sides feed so many men into the grinder, thousands at a time, just like poof! gone, next. I know Ukraine doesn't have an airforce at this point. I know one explanation is that Russia just wants to change the government, not trash the arcitecture per se, or having to pay for the rebuilding.
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Russia is a corrupt country but so is the Ukraine. This war started because of all the Russians living in the Eastern part of the Ukraine. They are treated like hell and Putin says that part of the Ukraine belongs to Russia. Despite the US propaganda Russia's economy is doing fantastic during this war. If you look at the injured and dead Russia is clearly winning. The Ukraine is running out of soldiers with all the injured. Putin is evil for intentionally going after civilians. There is a ton of money laundering going on with the money with the Ukraine and the US. If we took that money back there would be enough for every veteran to have two million with a ton left over.
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I admit I don't know shit about war but is it really necessary to sacrifice all those men, can't you just bomb and bomb from above?
It's just really hard for me to stomach how both sides feed so many men into the grinder, thousands at a time, just like poof! gone, next. I know Ukraine doesn't have an airforce at this point. I know one explanation is that Russia just wants to change the government, not trash the arcitecture per se, or having to pay for the rebuilding.
Probably true. I’d think they could just blow it up but for some reason, probably what you’ve posted, they haven’t.
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To be honest, I thought it would be over in less than a month.. It's Russia against Ukraine... Kudos to Ukraine for lasting this long.
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Putin is evil for intentionally going after civilians.
You have that backwards. Its Ukraine that went after civilians. Putin actually tried to minimize civilian casualties.
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To be honest, I thought it would be over in less than a month.. It's Russia against Ukraine... Kudos to Ukraine for lasting this long.
It would have if Russia did not care about Ukrainians like the US did not care about Iraqis. They could have bombed the fuck out of the infrastructure and flattened Kiev. But that was not their goal.
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I don't think you understand the situation. First and foremost Ukraine like any country has the right to defend itself. Surrender would have meant the end of Ukraine, the "denazification" of Ukrainian identity and culture, the cleansing of the schools with correct pro Russian dogma and the persecution of Ukrainians as an inferior people worthy of great disrespect. Russia drops missiles on Ukrainian cities daily, why would you think everything would be fine living under a country that treats you like that?
Ukrainians are fighting for their own interests first and foremost. Any mention of protecting democracy is an afterthought. You don't know the correct death figures, neither Zelensky or the Kremlins figures are accurate, but Russian KIA is much higher like a 10/1 ratio due to numbers and fighting style.
You are conveniently ignoring the 2014 US led coup when Victoria Nuland was giving out cookies to the protesters. 2014 was not a grassroots rebellion. It was a foreign intervention by the US. the current regime in Ukraine is illegitimate. Russia should have never let that coup happen. They should have had their own snipers in place.
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It would have if Russia did not care about Ukrainians like the US did not care about Iraqis. They could have bombed the fuck out of the infrastructure and flattened Kiev. But that was not their goal.
You're saying that Putin prolonged a war for 2 years that should have never been started in the first place because he cares?
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You're saying that Putin prolonged a war for 2 years that should have never been started in the first place because he cares?
I don't know but Putin does have all these crazy bombs that they haven't even used, no? I think I read they have used only one of the impossible-to-intercept bombs they have? I don't know who he expects to rebuild the country but if he annexed it all and all other foreign aid stopped it would be mighty expensive?
I don't take any sides really.
What do you think about what Putin says how the US had promised not to expand nato? Did they assume Russia would not attack anyway like they had basically promised? I haven't seen the US deny that they had promised not to expand nato though I think it wasn't a notarised talk. I forget exactly who it wwas who said it?
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I don't know but Putin does have all these crazy bombs that they haven't even used, no? I think I read they have used only one of the impossible-to-intercept bombs they have? I don't know who he expects to rebuild the country but if he annexed it all and all other foreign aid stopped it would be mighty expensive?
I don't take any sides really.
What do you think about what Putin says how the US had promised not to expand nato? Did they assume Russia would not attack anyway like they had basically promised? I haven't seen the US deny that they had promised not to expand nato though I think it wasn't a notarised talk. I forget exactly who it wwas who said it?
I already said joo SA through Thier pawn gayto lied to Russia bout not going east but the shitstains did just that
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Ukraine were beaten by day 3, Russia has been fighting NATO or the entire US and NATO special forces and weaponary since day 4, just like all other proxy wars, western special forces stay well behind the front lines, but they are responsible for the precision guided hits, not some Ukrainian grunt, they re just on the front lines to die for a cause that doesn't give two shits about them.
Zelensky and the west mainly US wants to develop Ukrainian gas that where developed can assist Europe with its dependence on Russia, Obviously this isn't in Russias interest, Ukraine in many Russians eyes owes all its wealth and sovereignty to its previous soviet position, I note that others have mentioned Ukraines previous nuclear weapon position, that was a soviet position therefore Russian position in Russias opinion not Ukrainian, there are two sides to this conflict, dont be blinded by the west or anti west and therefore pro Putin, simply this is a terrible waste of life for the common man who stands to gain nothing whatever the outcome.
Zelensky and Putin are both the same, just Zelensky bids for his western partners, Putin himself and Russias strategic interest, they are being isolated even after the Soviet Union collapsed and NATO continues to encroach on their border, basically eroding any concessions given to Stalin post world war, where Russias sacrifice was far greater than say the US, there are more than a few old US war commentators who feel the Second World War should have continued with the US bombing Moscow after Japan, then stopping the Cold War rather than starting it by not doing it.Rember only one country has ever dropped a nuclear type bomb on a civilian population and it wasn't Russia or China.
Sorry for the lack of punctuation before the getbig scholars jump to relevance.
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To be honest, I thought it would be over in less than a month.. It's Russia against Ukraine... Kudos to Ukraine for lasting this long.
Oh brother ::) ::)
What a maroon...
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Uke still "winning"??
Libz still "Standing w/ Ukraine"??? ::)
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We were right years ago when this war started. Ukraine had no chance from the start. Just wasted money and wasted lives.
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To be honest, I thought it would be over in less than a month.. It's Russia against Ukraine... Kudos to Ukraine for lasting this long.
That's not thanks to Ukraines toughness but other factors (NATO and that Putinski wanted to keep some buildings intact instead of bombing Kiev)
They could have saved MANY lives by just surrendering to their King Puté
Just a waste of MANY lives for nothing
Europe has given up on Uke and it will fall eventually
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Ukraine were beaten by day 3, Russia has been fighting NATO or the entire US and NATO special forces and weaponary since day 4, just like all other proxy wars, western special forces stay well behind the front lines, but they are responsible for the precision guided hits, not some Ukrainian grunt, they re just on the front lines to die for a cause that doesn't give two shits about them.
Zelensky and the west mainly US wants to develop Ukrainian gas that where developed can assist Europe with its dependence on Russia, Obviously this isn't in Russias interest, Ukraine in many Russians eyes owes all its wealth and sovereignty to its previous soviet position, I note that others have mentioned Ukraines previous nuclear weapon position, that was a soviet position therefore Russian position in Russias opinion not Ukrainian, there are two sides to this conflict, dont be blinded by the west or anti west and therefore pro Putin, simply this is a terrible waste of life for the common man who stands to gain nothing whatever the outcome.
Zelensky and Putin are both the same, just Zelensky bids for his western partners, Putin himself and Russias strategic interest, they are being isolated even after the Soviet Union collapsed and NATO continues to encroach on their border, basically eroding any concessions given to Stalin post world war, where Russias sacrifice was far greater than say the US, there are more than a few old US war commentators who feel the Second World War should have continued with the US bombing Moscow after Japan, then stopping the Cold War rather than starting it by not doing it.Rember only one country has ever dropped a nuclear type bomb on a civilian population and it wasn't Russia or China.
Sorry for the lack of punctuation before the getbig scholars jump to relevance.
I have a feeling US and EU will not allow Russia to take over Ukraine in the end. Ukraine will run out of soldiers(men willing to fight) and eventually US and EU/NATO will supply the soldiers and this will effectively officially make this a world war. World war III. And this is where nukes could start flying I'm afraid. Putin had made this point VERY clear, that if EU/Nato joins the war(other than supply material) then he will start nukes. And I think Ukraine is at a tipping point right now in where they can't get any more willing soldiers to fight the war, so the world might be at a huge historic pivot point at this moment.
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Putin wants a negotiated settlement to the war. He has wanted to negotiate from the start.
This will eventually happen once the U.S. and NATO decide the cost of the war has become too much to continue and/or they have achieved their objective of weakening Russia to no longer be a future threat.
Ukraine will be carved up between NATO and Russia. Like East and West Germany were.
All this could have been done before the war started. Instead the Ukes and Russian youth have been genocided to further U.S. aims.
Aside from all the Uke lives that have been wasted, it is a good deal for the U.S. if Russia is permanently weakened by their loss of youth.
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Putin wants a negotiated settlement to the war. He has wanted to negotiate from the start.
This will eventually happen once the U.S. and NATO decide the cost of the war has become too much to continue and/or they have achieved their objective of weakening Russia to no longer be a future threat.
Ukraine will be carved up between NATO and Russia. Like East and West Germany were.
All this could have been done before the war started. Instead the Ukes and Russian youth have been genocided to further U.S. aims.
Aside from all the Uke lives that have been wasted, it is a good deal for the U.S. if Russia is permanently weakened by their loss of youth.
And another reason why I hate da joo sa with a fucking passion 😡
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Ok how come some people call it Ukraine but other people call it The Ukraine?
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Ok how come some people call it Ukraine but other people call it The Ukraine?
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Yes and some keep saying The Ukraine out of spite. :D
Some things they have changed the spelling on a few times already, I guess to protest Russia? Doesn't Zelensky call himself Zelenskyy or something?
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Idk if it's spite. I mean people say the US or the UK. Nobody says the Zimbabwe. Its just Zimbabwe. Maybe having a The is a status thing.
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Or just countries that start with a U get a The.
I'm taking off to the United Arab Emirates. After that I'll be traveling to the Uruguay.
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The Ohio State University.
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No seriously two years of war and nobody even knows if we're using the The.
Fine. Are people who live there Ukrainians or The Ukrainians?
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The Ohio State University.
😂😂😂
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Putin wants a negotiated settlement to the war. He has wanted to negotiate from the start.
This will eventually happen once the U.S. and NATO decide the cost of the war has become too much to continue and/or they have achieved their objective of weakening Russia to no longer be a future threat.
Ukraine will be carved up between NATO and Russia. Like East and West Germany were.
All this could have been done before the war started. Instead the Ukes and Russian youth have been genocided to further U.S. aims.
Aside from all the Uke lives that have been wasted, it is a good deal for the U.S. if Russia is permanently weakened by their loss of youth.
Agree.
They had a signed draft for a ceasefire in Istanbul and we sent Boris there to derail it. We wanted Ukraine to fight.
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Agree.
They had a signed draft for a ceasefire in Istanbul and we sent Boris there to derail it. We wanted Ukraine to fight.
Putin schill any scenario where there is peace is a scenario where putin wins, you hate mongering piece of garbage
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No seriously two years of war and nobody even knows if we're using the The.
Fine. Are people who live there Ukrainians or The Ukrainians?
The "correct" way now is without the "the." Some keep saying "the" to piss off someone. I don't know why they keep changing it, probably to signal something to Russia.
More on spelling:
"There is also some debate as to whether using the double “y” is an act of defiance against the Russians by Zelensky.
To understand that, consider how the capital of Ukraine is spelled. “Kyiv” is the transliteration in English of the Ukrainian spelling of the nation’s capital. “Kiev” is based on the Russian spelling of the city’s name.
“Kyiv means that you transliterate into English from the original Ukrainian name of the Ukrainian capital. By doing so you recognize the fact that it is Ukrainian. By not doing so you question the fact that it is a Ukrainian city,” Dr. Yuri Shevchuk, a member of the department of Slavic languages at Columbia University, told The Forward earlier this month."
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Ok how come some people call it Ukraine but other people call it The Ukraine?
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I thought it had something to do with the word meaning “Frontierland” or something so we put the “the” in front. I could be wrong and I’m too lazy to stop typing and use google.
Also, The Gambia uses the in the name as well. Can’t think of many others.
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She’s fat!
US diplomat Nuland, strong supporter of Ukraine, to step down | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-diplomat-nuland-strong-supporter-ukraine-step-down-2024-03-05/
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This morning I got up, went to the bathroom, put on the coffeepot, and sat down in the front of the computer to see what is going on in the world.
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She’s fat!
US diplomat Nuland, strong supporter of Ukraine, to step down | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-diplomat-nuland-strong-supporter-ukraine-step-down-2024-03-05/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
Nuland was born in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, a surgeon born to Eastern European Jewish immigrants from Bessarabia, then part of Russia, with the last name Nudelman,[10] and a Christian British native mother, Rhona McKhann, née Goulston.[11] She graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979.[12] She has two younger half-siblings, Amelia and William.[13] She earned a bachelor of arts degree from Brown University in 1983, where she studied Russian literature, political science, and history.[14][15]She speaks Russian and French,[16] and a smattering of Chinese.[17]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
Nuland was born in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, a surgeon born to Eastern European Jewish immigrants from Bessarabia, then part of Russia, with the last name Nudelman,[10] and a Christian British native mother, Rhona McKhann, née Goulston.[11] She graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979.[12] She has two younger half-siblings, Amelia and William.[13] She earned a bachelor of arts degree from Brown University in 1983, where she studied Russian literature, political science, and history.[14][15]She speaks Russian and French,[16] and a smattering of Chinese.[17]. Nuland is obese with a bodyfat percentage well over 30%.
They left out that she’s fat. I updated it.
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This morning I got up, went to the bathroom, put on the coffeepot, and sat down in the front of the computer to see what is going on in the world.
Well, keep off the facebook and the twitter. That's how they getcha.
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Ukraine has as big a chance of "Winning" as Biden has being re-elected.
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The "correct" way now is without the "the." Some keep saying "the" to piss off someone. I don't know why they keep changing it, probably to signal something to Russia.
More on spelling:
"There is also some debate as to whether using the double “y” is an act of defiance against the Russians by Zelensky.
To understand that, consider how the capital of Ukraine is spelled. “Kyiv” is the transliteration in English of the Ukrainian spelling of the nation’s capital. “Kiev” is based on the Russian spelling of the city’s name.
“Kyiv means that you transliterate into English from the original Ukrainian name of the Ukrainian capital. By doing so you recognize the fact that it is Ukrainian. By not doing so you question the fact that it is a Ukrainian city,” Dr. Yuri Shevchuk, a member of the department of Slavic languages at Columbia University, told The Forward earlier this month."
The way it's going I expect a switcheroo.
"Which Ukraine do you mean? Western Ukraine or Eastern Ruskraine?"
"I mean The Ukraine."
Oh! A dreamer!
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Well, keep off the facebook and the twitter. That's how they getcha.
Good advices.
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Agree.
They had a signed draft for a ceasefire in Istanbul and we sent Boris there to derail it. We wanted Ukraine to fight.
Kremlin propaganda. Yeah peace treaty ie let us invade and get what we want and you surrender. ::)
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You have that backwards. Its Ukraine that went after civilians. Putin actually tried to minimize civilian casualties.
Can I suck your balls lord putler? He flattened Mariupol with 20k dead. He bombs the fuck out of cities far from the front line every day ::)
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Ukraine were beaten by day 3, Russia has been fighting NATO or the entire US and NATO special forces and weaponary since day 4, just like all other proxy wars, western special forces stay well behind the front lines, but they are responsible for the precision guided hits, not some Ukrainian grunt, they re just on the front lines to die for a cause that doesn't give two shits about them.
Zelensky and the west mainly US wants to develop Ukrainian gas that where developed can assist Europe with its dependence on Russia, Obviously this isn't in Russias interest, Ukraine in many Russians eyes owes all its wealth and sovereignty to its previous soviet position, I note that others have mentioned Ukraines previous nuclear weapon position, that was a soviet position therefore Russian position in Russias opinion not Ukrainian, there are two sides to this conflict, dont be blinded by the west or anti west and therefore pro Putin, simply this is a terrible waste of life for the common man who stands to gain nothing whatever the outcome.
Zelensky and Putin are both the same, just Zelensky bids for his western partners, Putin himself and Russias strategic interest, they are being isolated even after the Soviet Union collapsed and NATO continues to encroach on their border, basically eroding any concessions given to Stalin post world war, where Russias sacrifice was far greater than say the US, there are more than a few old US war commentators who feel the Second World War should have continued with the US bombing Moscow after Japan, then stopping the Cold War rather than starting it by not doing it.Rember only one country has ever dropped a nuclear type bomb on a civilian population and it wasn't Russia or China.
Sorry for the lack of punctuation before the getbig scholars jump to relevance.
Such nonsense that Ukraine was beaten after three days, wow haha, Russia thought they could take Kyiv in 3 days. They failed. Get it right.
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Such nonsense that Ukraine was beaten after three days, wow haha, Russia thought they could take Kyiv in 3 days. They failed. Get it right.
Nonsense that Zelensky claims Ukraine only has 31,000 casualties after 2 years while Russia supposedly had 3,500 dead and 500 tanks destroyed in just 2 days - probably by the "Ghost of Kiev". Ukraine is being used by the West and Zelensky is all too happy to sacrifice his Ukraine's people for that purpose.
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Nonsense that Zelensky claims Ukraine only has 31,000 casualties after 2 years while Russia supposedly had 3,500 dead and 500 tanks destroyed in just 2 days - probably by the "Ghost of Kiev". Ukraine is being used by the West and Zelensky is all too happy to sacrifice his Ukraine's people for that purpose.
Are you questioning The Ukraine's heroic 3,100 casualties?
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She’s fat!
US diplomat Nuland, strong supporter of Ukraine, to step down | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-diplomat-nuland-strong-supporter-ukraine-step-down-2024-03-05/
All those years of lying will do that to you:
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Turned into Nurse Ratchet
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All those years of lying will do that to you:
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=691196.0;attach=1496534;image)
Madeleine Albright 2.0
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Madeleine Albright 2.0
That first pic is probably heavily touched up.
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That first pic is probably heavily touched up.
Monica Brant-level filters.
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Nonsense that Zelensky claims Ukraine only has 31,000 casualties after 2 years while Russia supposedly had 3,500 dead and 500 tanks destroyed in just 2 days - probably by the "Ghost of Kiev". Ukraine is being used by the West and Zelensky is all too happy to sacrifice his Ukraine's people for that purpose.
Yes Zelenskys figures of KIA were much lower. Russia still has the exceeding count. Ukraine are not being used, they fight back of thier own accord and are grateful for Western aid without which the war would be lost.
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What’s the newest in this “war”?
And how’s that skirmish between the Joo fucks and the filthy Muzzies coming along?
Everyone having a good time?
Fuck the world.
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What’s the newest in this “war”?
And how’s that skirmish between the Joo fucks and the filthy Muzzies coming along?
Everyone having a good time?
Fuck the world.
Hahahaha, love it.
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What’s the newest in this “war”?
And how’s that skirmish between the Joo fucks and the filthy Muzzies coming along?
Everyone having a good time?
Fuck the world.
american needs to butt the fuck outta dat conflict too
heal yourselves you dumb sack of shits
so much wrong with america :D :D :D
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american needs to butt the fuck outta dat conflict too
heal yourselves you dumb sack of shits
so much wrong with america :D :D :D
You aren't wrong. I think most Americans don't want their tax dollars funding these overseas military endeavors. It lines the pockets of crooked politicians and military contractors. I don't see how it helps the average citizen.
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You aren't wrong. I think most Americans don't want their tax dollars funding these overseas military endeavors. It lines the pockets of crooked politicians and military contractors. I don't see how it helps the average citizen.
talked to my mom and she said a loaf of fucking bread now costs 3 goddamn dollars
THAT SHIT IS CRIMINAL
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Monica Brant-level filters.
Hahahah
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american needs to butt the fuck outta dat conflict too
heal yourselves you dumb sack of shits
so much wrong with america :D :D :D
so much wrong with the shit hole your living in, how is that fair and democratic election season coming along?
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so much wrong with the shit hole your living in, how is that fair and democratic election season coming along?
Why are you hating on Americans for not wanting to continue to throw money away? I am all for Ukraine fighting back and defending themselves from an aggressor. The problem is, no matter how right you think they are, there comes a point when you just can’t win. Rhonda Rousey is an elite level fighter, but no matter how much she would want to win, she’d get throttled by a male MMA guy because they’re bigger and stronger. Ukraine is not stronger than Russia.
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so much wrong with the shit hole your living in, how is that fair and democratic election season coming along?
i love this fucking country
feel very at home here
was just at a new gym friends flat as he fixed my laptop to use a vpn and he gave me 3 jars of homemade veggies and a cheesecake
he's trying to get me to settle down and have a good girl gf
my black Christian friend is doing the same
my mom thinks the Lord sent these dudes into my life
i will get my huksy pup once i start earning money from this online gig
the husky will settle me somewhat because i will love him deeply and take good care of him walking him 3-4 times daily
too hard to be with a female a dog is much much easier
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Why are you hating on Americans for not wanting to continue to throw money away? I am all for Ukraine fighting back and defending themselves from an aggressor. The problem is, no matter how right you think they are, there comes a point when you just can’t win. Rhonda Rousey is an elite level fighter, but no matter how much she would want to win, she’d get throttled by a male MMA guy because they’re bigger and stronger. Ukraine is not stronger than Russia.
I am not hating on Americans. It would be in Americas best interest to win this war. Ukraine was on the front foot and could be if they had the proper support from Nato.
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I am not hating on Americans. It would be in Americas best interest to win this war. Ukraine was on the front foot and could be if they had the proper support from Nato.
If it was up to you, would you send NATO troops to fight against Russia directly? Not that they aren't already there in Ukraine but openly. Or what kind of support would you advocate? Sending missiles that can hit Russia? Something else? Is there really a realistic scenario where Russia gives up it's Ukraine adventure, or is it just a matter of principle, accept total annihilation of the world if it comes to that? Never surrender like the Japanese did in WWII.
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It would be in Americas best interest to win this war.
No that'd be a horrible outcome, because we'd have to worry about a power vacuum in moscow.
That would lead to rogue nukes or seperatist movements all across russia.
In either scenario we could end up getting sucked into a boot on the group operation in central Asia/Siberia/Urals.
Ignoring that a first time nuke buyer would probably be Hamas.
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this dude and roger waters and jeffery sacks know whats up
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this dude and roger waters and jeffery sacks know whats up
No way BigRo Ukrainian girlfriend knows what's going on and its all lies, Russia's losing.
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No way BigRo Ukrainian girlfriend knows what's going on and its all lies, Russia's losing.
???
how do you figure?
they will split ukraine in half just like they did with germany and russia will also get odessa
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???
how do you figure?
they will split ukraine in half just like they did with germany and russia will also get odessa
why havent you been drafted to fight in Ukraine?
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how do you figure?
they will split ukraine in half just like they did with germany and russia will also get odessa
sarcasm friend we myself and BigRo have been going back and forth over the conflict, I get my position from sources like Ritter and McGregor other non CNN or non mainstream news, Ron from his Ukrainian girlfriend and mainstream media, she must be anally helping him get off or something as he gives a new definition to the term pussy whipped, he actually believes Ukraine are winning, hopefully its just her finger and not her fist he's pushing back on but whatever it is, he's a believer, I think she even has him screaming Ukraine when he drops his load. ;D
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sarcasm friend we myself and BigRo have been going back and forth over the conflict, I get my position from sources like Ritter and McGregor other non CNN or non mainstream news, Ron from his Ukrainian girlfriend and mainstream media, she must be anally helping him get off or something as he gives a new definition to the term pussy whipped, he actually believes Ukraine are winning, hopefully its just her finger and not her fist he's pushing back on but whatever it is, he's a believer, I think she even has him screaming Ukraine when he drops his load. ;D
hahahahaha
what a delusional turd :D :D :D
more POWER TO MOTHER RUSSIA :P
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why havent you been drafted to fight in Ukraine?
There's a job he will get.
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sarcasm friend we myself and BigRo have been going back and forth over the conflict, I get my position from sources like Ritter and McGregor other non CNN or non mainstream news, Ron from his Ukrainian girlfriend and mainstream media, she must be anally helping him get off or something as he gives a new definition to the term pussy whipped, he actually believes Ukraine are winning, hopefully its just her finger and not her fist he's pushing back on but whatever it is, he's a believer, I think she even has him screaming Ukraine when he drops his load. ;D
McGregor like yourself literally suck Putlers anus.
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hahahahaha
what a delusional turd :D :D :D
more POWER TO MOTHER RUSSIA :P
I never said Ukraine is winning at present. Why do you not learn to speak Russian? Get yourself conscripted if your so patriotic.
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McGregor like yourself literally suck Putlers anus.
;D.
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Putin is as close to Hitler as it gets. Russia is killing Ukraine with its ignorant bullshit.
You are a scholar.
I can't wait for the whine of my "liberal" brave-friends when Ukraine is going down the drain. Sucks for the commoners but at least, after decades, we had some positive refugees here.
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You are a scholar.
Yes thank you.
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You are a scholar.
I can't wait for the whine of my "liberal" brave-friends when Ukraine is going down the drain. Sucks for the commoners but at least, after decades, we had some positive refugees here.
My favorite is just their own lack of logic.
If he's Hitler, why are they encouraging the Jews to fight back, when we know Putin is perfectly happy to wait it out?
The answer because we in the west don't care about Ukrainians.
It's like an adult telling a child they should fight the pedofile because pedos are wrong. Great idea until the kid's body ends up in the river.
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My favorite is just their own lack of logic.
If he's Hitler, why are they encouraging the Jews to fight back, when we know Putin is perfectly happy to wait it out?
The answer because we in the west don't care about Ukrainians.
It's like an adult telling a child they should fight the pedofile because pedos are wrong. Great idea until the kid's body ends up in the river.
BINGO
FUCK THE WEST
if thailand was white i'd live there most libertarins end up there like vic black vig steve and doc huge wonder if andy tate will end up there? probably
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My favorite is just their own lack of logic.
If he's Hitler, why are they encouraging the Jews to fight back, when we know Putin is perfectly happy to wait it out?
The answer because we in the west don't care about Ukrainians.
It's like an adult telling a child they should fight the pedofile because pedos are wrong. Great idea until the kid's body ends up in the river.
I am glad you liken Russia to a giant pedo bully, perfect logic.
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BINGO
FUCK THE WEST
if thailand was white i'd live there most libertarins end up there like vic black vig steve and doc huge wonder if andy tate will end up there? probably
You live in a country whose leader re elects himself, who you cannot oppose or criticise without fear of punishment, where you cannot call a war a war and that murders homos like yourself.
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I am glad you liken Russia to a giant pedo bully, perfect logic.
right and you're getting kids killed in mass, because their lives are less important than your ego.
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right and you're getting kids killed in mass, because their lives are less important than your ego.
what? I am killing kids because of my ego? I thought you were a wholesome off gridder. What if a thief invaded your farm and tried to kill your family, would you acquiesce to their demands or find your gun and blow their brains out?
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My favorite is just their own lack of logic.
If he's Hitler, why are they encouraging the Jews to fight back, when we know Putin is perfectly happy to wait it out?
The answer because we in the west don't care about Ukrainians.
It's like an adult telling a child they should fight the pedofile because pedos are wrong. Great idea until the kid's body ends up in the river.
The western "mind" is a poisonous, anti-life, "judaised" shit cocktail.
"Putin bad, Orange man bad but we good."
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The western "mind" is a poisonous, anti-life, "judaised" shit cocktail.
"Putin bad, Orange man bad but we good."
Such incredible self loathing.
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what? I am killing kids because of my ego? I thought you were a wholesome off gridder. What if a thief invaded your farm and tried to kill your family, would you acquiesce to their demands or find your gun and blow their brains out?
Not a great analogy
Its more like "what would you do if 50 men in tanks invaded your farm..."
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You live in a country whose leader re elects himself, who you cannot oppose or criticise without fear of punishment, where you cannot call a war a war and that murders homos like yourself.
Except for the homos bit - That sounds a lot like current day America.
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...after your farm's leadership got couped by the CIA in 2014 and replaced with US puppets who proceeded to install nuclear capable weapons systems despite repeated objections to expansionism over the course of decades by the guy who eventually felt he had to respond?
That's easy. Call it unprovoked.
Ro, how could you be so critical of the establishment story during covid but so credulous when it comes to Ukraine? Big pharma had enough juice to game the government and media but the war machine, despite its past, is beyond question? Elites and their messaging are full of shit, man, just like always.
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The invasion of Ukraine eliminated Covid...
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Any word on Sean Penn and his battle plans?
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Not a great analogy
Its more like "what would you do if 50 men in tanks invaded your farm..."
Not a good analogy, this;
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what? I am killing kids because of my ego? I thought you were a wholesome off gridder. What if a thief invaded your farm and tried to kill your family, would you acquiesce to their demands or find your gun and blow their brains out?
Great example, we literally encourage people to drive buy, visit give them beer etc.
We have idiot cousins who try to chest thump with no trespassing signs etc on their property.
What ends up happening is none of the good guys are gonna cross onto the land, only the bad.
Our family has lots of friends in the area because we're reliant on them to watch our property when we aren't around/middle of storms etc.
Turns out no one is gonna invade your property when they know you have friends and you are friendly.
If you're an unlikable prick and start a turf war you can't win, you're screwed.
Of course anyone that hasn't lived a spoiled life understands how this works. It's why the people screaming loudest in support of Ukraine are rich kids on Imac's.
They have zero skin in the game and have zero concern for giving the worst stupidest advice.
It's like these groups that teach women getting raped to gouge a guys eyes out. Yeah do that, he'll still rape you, but with break half your rips when he's done.
On the frontier you literally make friends with people and build up soft alliances because there's nothing one family can do against a gang of thugs when they're outgunned. The problem is Ukraine's family and friends is Russia. No one in the west actually cares about them. There's no economic value in Ukraine it's a "borderland".
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Great example, we literally encourage people to drive buy, visit give them beer etc.
We have idiot cousins who try to chest thump with no trespassing signs etc on their property.
What ends up happening is none of the good guys are gonna cross onto the land, only the bad.
Our family has lots of friends in the area because we're reliant on them to watch our property when we aren't around/middle of storms etc.
Turns out no one is gonna invade your property when they know you have friends and you are friendly.
If you're an unlikable prick and start a turf war you can't win, you're screwed.
Of course anyone that hasn't lived a spoiled life understands how this works. It's why the people screaming loudest in support of Ukraine are rich kids on Imac's.
They have zero skin in the game and have zero concern for giving the worst stupidest advice.
It's like these groups that teach women getting raped to gouge a guys eyes out. Yeah do that, he'll still rape you, but with break half your rips when he's done.
On the frontier you literally make friends with people and build up soft alliances because there's nothing one family can do against a gang of thugs when they're outgunned. The problem is Ukraine's family and friends is Russia. No one in the west actually cares about them. There's no economic value in Ukraine it's a "borderland".
Your attitude towards Russia is therefore spread wide and try to enjoy submission. Russia would already be ruling Kyiv with that attitude and Russia is not Ukraines friend. You don't go to your friends property and slay everything living there and call it denazification. I am not a rich kid.
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1. US should have never been there or involved in the first place
2. Zelenskyy is no better if not worse than Putin
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My favorite is just their own lack of logic.
If he's Hitler, why are they encouraging the Jews to fight back, when we know Putin is perfectly happy to wait it out?
The answer because we in the west don't care about Ukrainians.
It's like an adult telling a child they should fight the pedofile because pedos are wrong. Great idea until the kid's body ends up in the river.
At least the kid goes down fighting, and maybe ends up protecting many others. Better to put up fight to a pedo rather letting him have his wicked ways with you.
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1. US should have never been there or involved in the first place
2. Zelenskyy is no better if not worse than Putin
Did Zelensky order his troops to roll over the border, raining down missiles on Moscow?
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Did Zelensky order his troops to roll over the border, raining down missiles on Moscow?
Fact is we’ll never know the truth.
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Has Zelensky been beheaded on live TV yet? If not, when?
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Your attitude towards Russia is therefore spread wide and try to enjoy submission.
Yes because the alternative is death. That's how that works. If you can't win you surrender.
Do you want your children raped and murdered or just raped? And before you answer remember your kids are already murdered and raped, I'm not asking you for an opinion, I'm asking you for an apoligee.
This isn't the Battle of Thermopylae, there's no young generation of men coming up to finish their fathers war. Ukrainian demographics are toxic. Ukraine is set to have a population smaller than Nebraska by 2100 and it's population was twice that of texas's in 1990. Ukraine is becoming a land of corpses, one of the worlds first "ghost nations".
Reality is people listened to the military industrial complex, nationalist fascist morons collaborated with the CIA/EU etc to start a pointless war, just so the EU could avoid paying for an actual military of its own.
Russia would already be ruling Kyiv with that attitude and Russia is not Ukraines friend.
"ruling kyiv" what cartoonish fantasy are you dreaming of? The disaster scenario is a moderately oppressive rulership in Kiev. In all probability Putin would be pushing policies aimed at getting Ukrainians to move into Russia proper as they're in the midst of a demographic crisis. Those poor Ukrainians would end up moving into the industrial parts of the Urals, Moscow and St Petersburg for far higher wages than they're ever gonna get in Ukraine.
Putin is perfectly capable of gasing a million jews no doubt, but the Ukrainians aren't the Jews, they are the equivalent of the Austrians. Hitler didn't want to gas Austria when he moved in, he wanted to grow his power. Regardless of Putin's morality he wasn't out to exterminate the Ukrainians at least not initially.
The Ukrainians are highly valuable to Putin as ethnic Europeans/Christians/Russians which could have helped Putin with counterbalancing the growing Muslim population within Russia.
Any Ukrainians associated with the nationalist movements would obviously be hunted down and exterminated. Ironically they should just flee as refugees, but we all know the West has no interest in giving a bunch of Ukrainian nationalist refugee status. At this point it doesn't matter as most of these fucks heads are dead.
You don't go to your friends property and slay everything living there and call it denazification.
Dude you're not gonna pull that bullshit with me. 10 years ago I told my pal Yuri that we should go for a beer with Vadim Omelchenko after work. He said fuck that Russian scum not a chance. Vadim of course was from Kiev. But he wasn't a pure Ukrainian in Yuri's head. The fact is Ukrainians have been drunk on nationalism since forever.
I am not a rich kid.
Poor and stupid ok.
Your entire song and dance relies on me trying to defend Putin as some great patriot.
He's a grandiose mofo who obviously doesn't have a high value for human life. But doesn't mean the smart thing to do is some pointless kamazee mission. Just so Germany can avoid buying American made weapons systems.
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Starting to like this Goliathon-dude.
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bigro should go to ukraine and get killed or just shut the fuck up
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1. US should have never been there or involved in the first place
2. Zelenskyy is no better if not worse than Putin
Quoted for truth. The insane amount of cash the US is giving the Ukraine is money laundering for the Democrats. No doubt Zelensky also has a nice amount in non disclosure banks in other countries. The Ukraine is as corrupt as Russia. This started because of the way Russians were treated in the Ukraine by the border area with Russia. Putin claims that is Russia not the Ukraine. Having said that Russia is savage the way they went after civilian buildings. The Ukraine is quickly running out of soldiers.
A truth should be negotiated with Russia by the US. If lightening strikes and Trump gets in you know that will happen immediately. I predict Russian demands will be no NATO in the Ukraine. They would want to claim land in the Ukraine closest to their border. If Biden gets in the money laundering will continue with arms and cash flowing to the Ukraine.
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Yes because the alternative is death. That's how that works. If you can't win you surrender.
Do you want your children raped and murdered or just raped? And before you answer remember your kids are already murdered and raped, I'm not asking you for an opinion, I'm asking you for an apoligee.
This isn't the Battle of Thermopylae, there's no young generation of men coming up to finish their fathers war. Ukrainian demographics are toxic. Ukraine is set to have a population smaller than Nebraska by 2100 and it's population was twice that of texas's in 1990. Ukraine is becoming a land of corpses, one of the worlds first "ghost nations".
Reality is people listened to the military industrial complex, nationalist fascist morons collaborated with the CIA/EU etc to start a pointless war, just so the EU could avoid paying for an actual military of its own.
"ruling kyiv" what cartoonish fantasy are you dreaming of? The disaster scenario is a moderately oppressive rulership in Kiev. In all probability Putin would be pushing policies aimed at getting Ukrainians to move into Russia proper as they're in the midst of a demographic crisis. Those poor Ukrainians would end up moving into the industrial parts of the Urals, Moscow and St Petersburg for far higher wages than they're ever gonna get in Ukraine.
Putin is perfectly capable of gasing a million jews no doubt, but the Ukrainians aren't the Jews, they are the equivalent of the Austrians. Hitler didn't want to gas Austria when he moved in, he wanted to grow his power. Regardless of Putin's morality he wasn't out to exterminate the Ukrainians at least not initially.
The Ukrainians are highly valuable to Putin as ethnic Europeans/Christians/Russians which could have helped Putin with counterbalancing the growing Muslim population within Russia.
Any Ukrainians associated with the nationalist movements would obviously be hunted down and exterminated. Ironically they should just flee as refugees, but we all know the West has no interest in giving a bunch of Ukrainian nationalist refugee status. At this point it doesn't matter as most of these fucks heads are dead.
Dude you're not gonna pull that bullshit with me. 10 years ago I told my pal Yuri that we should go for a beer with Vadim Omelchenko after work. He said fuck that Russian scum not a chance. Vadim of course was from Kiev. But he wasn't a pure Ukrainian in Yuri's head. The fact is Ukrainians have been drunk on nationalism since forever.
Poor and stupid ok.
Your entire song and dance relies on me trying to defend Putin as some great patriot.
He's a grandiose mofo who obviously doesn't have a high value for human life. But doesn't mean the smart thing to do is some pointless kamazee mission. Just so Germany can avoid buying American made weapons systems.
Fucks sake can you not condense your words a bit? Putin wanted to rule Kyiv and thought he could take it in 3 days, talk to him about fantasy lands. Fact is you support the brutal Invasion of a sovereign country, where rape and pillage is the modus operandi. Your idea that the war is all because Germany won't buy American weapons systems us totally ridiculous. Ukraine is not like Austria either. Why should I apologise to you? Grow up.
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Did Zelensky order his troops to roll over the border, raining down missiles on Moscow?
You obviously know nothing about this situation, yet like all arrogant rich comfortable leftists, you continue to argue.
Zelensky has been bombing and shelling the russian majority regions of Ukraine (Donetsk) for 8 fuckng years.. killing thousands. These people begged Putin to come to their aide. He finally did. The NATO crap and US missile placements threats are just the cherry on top.
Your ignorance is immense and embarrassing.
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Fucks sake can you not condense your words a bit? Putin wanted to rule Kyiv and thought he could take it in 3 days, talk to him about fantasy lands. Fact is you support the brutal Invasion of a sovereign country, where rape and pillage is the modus operandi. Your idea that the war is all because Germany won't buy American weapons systems us totally ridiculous. Ukraine is not like Austria either. Why should I apologise to you? Grow up.
He wanted to free the people of Donetsk, and he would have had done so very quickly if not for NATO
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You obviously know nothing about this situation, yet like all arrogant rich comfortable leftists, you continue to argue.
Zelensky has been bombing and shelling the russian majority regions of Ukraine (Donetsk) for 8 fuckng years.. killing thousands. These people begged Putin to come to their aide. He finally did. The NATO crap and US missile placements threats are just the cherry on top.
Your ignorance is immense and embarrassing.
Russia invaded Crimea and then the Donbas. There was a war between Russian backed separatists and Russian soldiers and the Ukrainian side, where civilian casualties on both sides was inevitable. The atrocities under Russian occupation of places like Kherson are well documented. Thousands of Russian speaking civilians were slaughtered in cities like Mariupol now under Russian control. There was no nukes parked in Ukraine. Russia was not on some peacekeeping operation, Putin has his own selfish agenda. Your ignorance is immense and embarrassing. I am neither rich or a leftist dickface.
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Fucks sake can you not condense your words a bit?
I tried you did not follow.
Putin wanted to rule Kyiv and thought he could take it in 3 days, talk to him about fantasy lands.
That's your claim, Putin was at war since 2014 not convinced he thought it was gonna be that easy, regardless of what he told his troops/people.
Regardless it doesn't matter this is a woman's argument. An emotional appeal that doesn't mean anything.
Fact is you support the brutal Invasion of a sovereign country,
No that's woman's logic. Not supporting a bad response to a bad thing, doesn't mean you support the bad thing. It means you understand that a stupid bad response is a stupid bad response. Two wrongs doesn't make a right, this is a basic western value that a 4 year old should appreciate.
where rape and pillage is the modus operandi.
There's no reason for Putin to be on board with that if there was a faster surrender. Like you want him to be some ruthless 4d chess bond villain ok, but you're describing a game of checkers. Ukraine's top resource was it's ethnic slavs/russians/christians.
Your idea that the war is all because Germany won't buy American weapons systems us totally ridiculous.
You're right it depends on the day of the week, the propaganda machines wishes to move the goal posts on an hourly basis. But yes depending on the hour the rhetoric revolves around the threat of Putin invading the Baltic states. In a actual NATO country you have endless advanced weapon's systems at your disposal. The Baltic states are small that they are easy to protect, easy to reach via carrier etc.
Not only is the Baltic easier to defend, it's easier to sanction Russia. Half the problem with Ukraine is we've had to make a deal over Black Sea trade. We can't cut off the worlds oil and grain, so we can't properly barricade the Russian economy. If Putin attempted to go into the Baltics we could just cut Russia off from everything over night.
Ukraine is not like Austria either.
Care to explain?
Why should I apologise to you? Grow up.
I never said to me, you apologize to all those dead Russians and Ukrainian boys.
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I tried you did not follow.
That's your claim, Putin was at war since 2014 not convinced he thought it was gonna be that easy, regardless of what he told his troops/people.
Regardless it doesn't matter this is a woman's argument. An emotional appeal that doesn't mean anything.
No that's woman's logic. Not supporting a bad response to a bad thing, doesn't mean you support the bad thing. It means you understand that a stupid bad response is a stupid bad response. Two wrongs doesn't make a right this is a basic western value that a 4 year old should appreciate.
There's no reason for Putin to be on board with that if there was a faster surrender. Like you want him to be some ruthless 4d chess bond villain ok, but you're describing a game of checkers. Ukraine's top resource was it's ethnic slavs/russians/christians.
You're right it depends on the day of the week, the propaganda machines wishes to move the goal posts on an hourly basis. But yes depending on the hour the rhetoric revolves around the threat of Putin invading the Baltic states. In a actual NATO country you have endless advanced weapon's systems at your disposal. The Baltic states are small that they are easy to protect, easy to reach via carrier etc.
Care to explain?
I never said to me, you apologize to all those dead Russians and Ukrainian boys.
There is ample proof he tried to capture the capitol. Russian tanks got to the outskirts of the city. This is all verifiable and rational.
Austria welcomed Germany. Ukraine did not and should not be expected to. If they capitulated as in your idea of what is right then Ukrainian language would already be banned from all schools. Surrender to God not your enemy. It is they who should surrender to you. I did not start this war, Putin should apologize and withdraw his forces ASAP. Hell awaits him either way.
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Yes because the alternative is death. That's how that works. If you can't win you surrender.
Do you want your children raped and murdered or just raped? And before you answer remember your kids are already murdered and raped, I'm not asking you for an opinion, I'm asking you for an apoligee.
This isn't the Battle of Thermopylae, there's no young generation of men coming up to finish their fathers war. Ukrainian demographics are toxic. Ukraine is set to have a population smaller than Nebraska by 2100 and it's population was twice that of texas's in 1990. Ukraine is becoming a land of corpses, one of the worlds first "ghost nations".
Reality is people listened to the military industrial complex, nationalist fascist morons collaborated with the CIA/EU etc to start a pointless war, just so the EU could avoid paying for an actual military of its own.
You are missing the point that if we don't make a stand for Ukraine, he goes on and takes other countries. Same with China and Taiwan. At a certain the rest of the world draws a line. And this is it.
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There is ample proof he tried to capture the capitol. Russian tanks got to the outskirts of the city. This is all verifiable and rational.
Austria welcomed Germany. Ukraine did not and should not be expected to. If they capitulated as in your idea of what is right then Ukrainian language would already be banned from all schools. Surrender to God not your enemy. It is they who should surrender to you. I did not start this war, Putin should apologize and withdraw his forces ASAP. Hell awaits him either way.
Hell awaits Many many Folk & pretty much all Global Leaders
why single out Putin - the rest are hardly angels including zelensky.
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Hell awaits Many many Folk & pretty much all Global Leaders
why single out Putin - the rest are hardly angels including zelensky.
Those who pushed the clot shot certainly will roast.
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Those who pushed the clot shot certainly will roast.
100% they certainly deserve it.
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You are missing the point that if we don't make a stand for Ukraine, he goes on and takes other countries. Same with China and Taiwan. At a certain the rest of the world draws a line. And this is it.
Making a stand, would be sending in our own troops, but we’re not doing that, neither is NATO.
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You are missing the point that if we don't make a stand for Ukraine, he goes on and takes other countries. Same with China and Taiwan. At a certain the rest of the world draws a line. And this is it.
NATO (the US), despite promises to the contrary since the 90s, has expanded right up to the Russian border. That's where the war is, right? It's definitely not on the US border.
The Ukrainians got suckered. Isn't the average fighting man in his 40s now? Everyone's dead over this neocon horseshit. If you dislike warmongering psychopaths then don't support US leadership. Name one US war in the last 80 years that wasn't sold on lies.
This isn't even a good lie. "Hey, see those guys? The ones we're right up on the border of? On the opposite side of the world from us? They're aggressive expansionists."
You're buying that?! You've got to be kidding.
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You are missing the point that if we don't make a stand for Ukraine, he goes on and takes other countries. Same with China and Taiwan. At a certain the rest of the world draws a line. And this is it.
You're then taking about nato countries, he does that we can use real weapons instead of 1940s artillery fire.
China is s totally different situation
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China is s totally different situation
Yeah it brings fed up antiestablishment conservatives back on board. Makes 'em forget all about how their government exists to screw them.
Watch.
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NATO (the US), despite promises to the contrary since the 90s, has expanded right up to the Russian border. That's where the war is, right? It's definitely not on the US border.
The Ukrainians got suckered. Isn't the average fighting man in his 40s now? Everyone's dead over this neocon horseshit. If you dislike warmongering psychopaths then don't support US leadership. Name one US war in the last 80 years that wasn't sold on lies.
This isn't even a good lie. "Hey, see those guys? The ones we're right up on the border of? On the opposite side of the world from us? They're aggressive expansionists."
You're buying that?! You've got to be kidding.
gayto er i mean the pew sa fyi nato is the pew sa make no doubts bout it, the other countries are just pew sa slut whores and do all jeew sa tells them to do just like little pussies lied repeatedly to russia that they would not expand east of germany
lying fucking cocksuckers is the pew sa
FUCK THEM
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NATO (the US), despite promises to the contrary since the 90s, has expanded right up to the Russian border. That's where the war is, right? It's definitely not on the US border.
The Ukrainians got suckered. Isn't the average fighting man in his 40s now? Everyone's dead over this neocon horseshit. If you dislike warmongering psychopaths then don't support US leadership. Name one US war in the last 80 years that wasn't sold on lies.
This isn't even a good lie. "Hey, see those guys? The ones we're right up on the border of? On the opposite side of the world from us? They're aggressive expansionists."
You're buying that?! You've got to be kidding.
Ukraine gave up its nukes and was promised by Russia it eould never be stacked.
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Ukraine gave up its nukes and was promised by Russia it eould never be stacked.
Think the Ukraine was suckered / fooled by NATO
They should never have listened to them
They'll be dropped soon enough by them.
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gayto er i mean the pew sa fyi nato is the pew sa make no doubts bout it, the other countries are just pew sa slut whores and do all jeew sa tells them to do just like little pussies lied repeatedly to russia that they would not expand east of germany
lying fucking cocksuckers is the pew sa
FUCK THEM
retards gonna retard
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Ukraine gave up its nukes and was promised by Russia it eould never be stacked.
Which mean US taxpayers are on the hook for 100s of billions how exactly? Walk me through the reasoning.
And I'm still looking for the last US war that wasn't based on lies from the US government. Maybe this is the first one, huh?
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Which mean US taxpayers are on the hook for 100s of billions how exactly? Walk me through the reasoning.
And I'm still looking for the last US war that wasn't based on lies from the US government. Maybe this is the first one, huh?
pew sa sucks fucking ass
i hate this fucking country WITH A PASSION
i wish thailand had white females as it is the country with the highest degree of libertarism
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pew sa sucks fucking ass
i hate this fucking country WITH A PASSION
i wish thailand had white females as it is the country with the highest degree of libertarism
The country and the government are two different things.
The government wants you to believe they're the same thing.
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The country and the government are two different things.
The government wants you to believe they're the same thing.
ok the govt and private entities that run the govt SUCK ASS
but the peeps there also suck ass fat fucking females abound JESUS CHRIST!
and damn this guitar is NICE 8)
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Yeah it brings fed up antiestablishment conservatives back on board. Makes 'em forget all about how their government exists to screw them.
Watch.
Japan, Taiwan, and Korea are actually important to America and the world.
Ukraine is a random country, that didn't exist just 35 years ago, that won't exist 35 years from now(due to demographic collapse)
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Ok. How many American boys ought to die and how many dollars should be ripped from US taxpayers to defend Japan, Taiwan, and Korea?
How about none, and America returns to kicking ass in industry and innovation which would make it...great again.
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BigRo displaying Hankins level delusional issues when it comes to the Ukraine,
The nuclear weapons Ukraine has were soviet weapons, meaning they were Russian. Their industries were soviet built, if you industrialised a country for 50 60 years would you not feel a sense of ownership, they would have been fine if they didn't overthrow the government in 2013 then declare they would not respect Ukraine position as neutral meaning even after losing Crimea as a warning, they still wanted to put missiles facing Russia there.
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Ok. How many American boys ought to die and how many dollars should be ripped from US taxpayers to defend Japan, Taiwan, and Korea?'
Defending Japan/Taiwan/Korea is saving America billions or Trillions.
Unlike Ukraine that's a part of the world that actually matters.
How about none, and America returns to kicking ass in industry and innovation which would make it...great again.
America relies on East Asia to kick ass, all of our industry and innovation is hard wired into East Asian supply chains.
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BigRo displaying Hankins level delusional issues when it comes to the Ukraine,
The nuclear weapons Ukraine has were soviet weapons, meaning they were Russian. Their industries were soviet built, if you industrialised a country for 50 60 years would you not feel a sense of ownership, they would have been fine if they didn't overthrow the government in 2013 then declare they would not respect Ukraine position as neutral meaning even after losing Crimea as a warning, they still wanted to put missiles facing Russia there.
I think Ro is influenced to some degree by his Ukrainian girlfriend
which is understandable -
Also Ro has a great sense of fairness - which I think is slightly
clouded by all the Russia is Bad & only Russia is Bad propaganda.
USA & NATO have to have a Big Bad Bear they can blame anything
& everything on - Never admitting to the fact they're as Bad if not
worse at Times when it suits their interests.
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I think Ro is influenced to some degree by his Ukrainian girlfriend
which is understandable -
I get it, I have actual Ukrainian friends, some of my favorite people on this Earth.
Their blockhead stupidty on this topic was obvious to me 10 years ago.
I saw the stupid in both directions, Ukies thinking Putin was a harmless good guy, and inversely Ukies who had a visceral obvious hatred to anything Russian despite they themselves being fluent in Russian language and culture.
Now all of sudden the Ukie nationalist who hated their Russian speaking countrymen are suppose to get a free pass?
I have nothing but love for my squared headed friends. But god dam is that stuff insufferable.
You see the same crap with French Canadians/in my family. Everything is a tin foil hat'd conspiracy against their culture. They'll hate on Anglo Canadians threaten to leave Canada 15 times before diner. Then they'll turn around and point fingers at Anglo Canadians for not allying up against America "our common cultural enemy".
People are dying in huge volumes for absolutely no reason, beyond just stupid pointless nationalism and this delusional hope that the Eurozone is gonna rush in and save them. It's a crazy convoluted mindset. The EU is gonna instigate some post war martial plan, the martial plan only happened because we feared the Russians. If the Russians lose there's logically no reason for a marshall plan.
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I think Ro is influenced to some degree by his Ukrainian girlfriend
which is understandable -
Also Ro has a great sense of fairness - which I think is slightly
clouded by all the Russia is Bad & only Russia is Bad propaganda.
USA & NATO have to have a Big Bad Bear they can blame anything
& everything on - Never admitting to the fact they're as Bad if not
worse at Times when it suits their interests.
I agree that Ro means well. He comes across as decent with a sense of fairness as you put it. But he is naïve to what's going on in the world.
The problem for many of us "Whites" in the West is we see Western Governments and media becoming openly anti-White. Look at the Google AI debacle. They programmed that thing to be anti-White. It's also not AI. It's just a complex piece of software and hardware programmed by humans to respond according to their worldview. And their worldview is anti-White. Because of this many Whites want to see the system reset because if it does not it means their ultimate demise.
Now contrast that with Russia and Putin. Here's a leader and country that wants to maintain its traditional values. Compare that with the West - actively replacing their native populations via forced mass immigration. Rewriting their history to abdicate the White race and its achievements. The West is coming apart at the seams. The leaders are inept and puppets. Put Biden next to Putin and what do you see? Putin is so far elevated above Biden it's not even funny! Just watch the man's interviews and speeches. Russia is lucky to have a leader like him.
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poland talking bout attacking mother russia
what stupid fucking idiots :D :D :D
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i would fucking love to murder the globilist elites
blast a fucking cap in their brains
or even better tourture them for months on end and watch with joy and glee the fear and pain in thiers
6:00-6:35
and if i could get away with it i would murder some of you fucking shits here on this site and i'd do it with JOY
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Why are the other members who care about Ukraine so silent in this thread? Why should I have to carry all the burden of attack? Anyone who is not on your side you call delusional, naive etc it's a leftist tactic. Colon Mc Gregor a clear source of info? Come on.
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Why are the other members who care about Ukraine so silent in this thread? Why should I have to carry all the burden of attack? Anyone who is not on your side you call delusional, naive etc it's a leftist tactic. Colon Mc Gregor a clear source of info? Come on.
It isn't that people don't care about Ukraine. It is that people don't care about Ukraine any more than they care about other countries in the world where there are invasions and unjust leaders. If I had to say who is in the right and who is in the wrong, I'd say Ukraine is more in the right because they should have their own freedoms and independence and shouldn't be invaded (not to say that Putin wasn't provoked by NATO expansion or that corrupt politicians aren't embezzling money being sent). But I don't want to spend tax money or send soldiers there.
While recognizing their plight I don't see how the average American benefits from what we're doing there.
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It isn't that people don't care about Ukraine. It is that people don't care about Ukraine any more than they care about other countries in the world where there are invasions and unjust leaders. If I had to say who is in the right and who is in the wrong, I'd say Ukraine is more in the right because they should have their own freedoms and independence and shouldn't be invaded (not to say that Putin wasn't provoked by NATO expansion or that corrupt politicians aren't embezzling money being sent). But I don't want to spend tax money or send soldiers there.
While recognizing their plight I don't see how the average American benefits from what we're doing there.
That may be your position which is reasonable but I don't understand the admiration for Putin who treats his citizens as fodder meat, nor the view that Ukraine should just surrender to his ambitions. This is the biggest war in Europe since world war 2.
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That may be your position which is reasonable but I don't understand the admiration for Putin who treats his citizens as fodder meat, nor the view that Ukraine should just surrender to his ambitions. This is the biggest war in Europe since world war 2.
Most Americans (I think) are tired of the Shitter admin sending billions of tax dollars to Uke while our homeless vets starve, etc.
Plus our border nightmare. We have our own battles here at home...
People are just fed up I think. I feel for all the innocent folks on both sides of that mess.
But arguing about it isn't going to help anything... JOO.S.A is doomed...
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Most Americans (I think) are tired of the Shitter admin sending billions of tax dollars to Uke while our homeless vets starve, etc.
Plus our border nightmare. We have our own battles here at home...
People are just fed up I think. I feel for all the innocent folks on both sides of that mess.
But arguing about it isn't going to help anything... JOO.S.A is doomed...
yep
and i feel for both russians and ukrainians as i have lived in both countries
i fucking hate the joo sa for causing all of this
they are the reason russia moved into ukraine
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Most Americans (I think) are tired of the Shitter admin sending billions of tax dollars to Uke while our homeless vets starve, etc.
Plus our border nightmare. We have our own battles here at home...
People are just fed up I think. I feel for all the innocent folks on both sides of that mess.
But arguing about it isn't going to help anything... JOO.S.A is doomed...
Does Mike Johnson represent the majority of sentiment in the States? Nato boots may be on the ground yet.
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yep
and i feel for both russians and ukrainians as i have lived in both countries
i fucking hate the joo sa for causing all of this
they are the reason russia moved into ukraine
You should be banned for your Jew hatred.
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Does Mike Johnson represent the majority of sentiment in the States? Nato boots may be on the ground yet.
I'm unsure who Mike Johnson is...
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You should be banned for your Jew hatred.
his bullshit seems to go unpunished..
Hes been jew hating since he started posting again
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I'm unsure who Mike Johnson is...
Republican representative who is blocking the Ukraine aid bill.
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That may be your position which is reasonable but I don't understand the admiration for Putin who treats his citizens as fodder meat, nor the view that Ukraine should just surrender to his ambitions. This is the biggest war in Europe since world war 2.
Come on Ro all Governments when it comes to war will treat its
soldiers & citizens as fodder meat -Look back at WW1 & WW2
& many since - I get you don't like Russia / Putin only it's
Clouding your Perspective. He's No Better or worse than any other's.
Is Zelensky a Fucking Saint ? Swanning off around the Globe trying
To Ponce more £ off any nation daft enough to give it him.
And his wife abroad shopping for expensive items while their contries
men are dying.
He's Renting out one of his expensive properties to a Russian.
Yeah He Really cares about his Own Folk ::) NOT.
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Come on Ro all Governments when it comes to war will treat its
soldiers & citizens as fodder meat -Look back at WW1 & WW2
& many since - I get you don't like Russia / Putin only it's
Clouding your Perspective. He's No Better or worse than any other's.
Is Zelensky a Fucking Saint ? Swanning off around the Globe trying
To Ponce more £ off any nation daft enough to give it him.
And his wife abroad shopping for expensive items while their contries
men are dying.
He's Renting out one of his expensive properties to a Russian.
Yeah He Really cares about his Own Folk ::) NOT.
Post proof he is renting out his expensive properties to Russians? I am not propping him up. Ukraine has its fair share of corruption. However the way in which they fight and sacrifice soldiers is very different to the way Russia treats its men. They have to fight smart because there is less of them and they tend to their wounded and collect bodies whereas Russia leaves men to die and rot. Nothing is clouding my perspective, I changed my mind about Russia and came down on the side of Ukraine half a year before meeting my girlfriend.
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That may be your position which is reasonable but I don't understand the admiration for Putin who treats his citizens as fodder meat,
There's a difference between liking and agreeing with someone morally and respecting someone for their competence. I hate socialist, doesn't mean there aren't a bunch that are perfectly smart and capable, moral bankruptcy and incompetence do not go hand n hand.
nor the view that Ukraine should just surrender to his ambitions.
Because they can't win, it's only a question of how badly they'll lose.
This is the biggest war in Europe since world war 2.
And it's barely a European war. Ukraine is barely Europe.
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There's a difference between liking and agreeing with someone morally and respecting someone for their competence. I hate socialist, doesn't mean there aren't a bunch that are perfectly smart and capable, moral bankruptcy and incompetence do not go hand n hand.
Because they can't win, it's only a question of how badly they'll lose.
And it's barely a European war. Ukraine is barely Europe.
Well even Armenia is leaning West now so Europe is getting bigger and Russia could just get along with its neighbours instead of being so paranoid. The West is too wrapped up in this war to let Russia loose.
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Well even Armenia is leaning West now so Europe is getting bigger and Russia could just get along with its neighbours instead of being so paranoid. The West is too wrapped up in this war to let Russia loose.
Timbuktu could lean west, it doesn't make it European. European isn't a choice, it's not a subjective identity.
Congo has more relevance to Europe as they at least have a young population, of partially trainables.
This idea that Europe wants to spread east into demographic dead ends is a joke. The EU expanded east because the Germans wanted into central Europe. It's of no benefit to France etc.
If Europe is gonna expand it'll be into Africa, as they have large piles of natural resource and young people.
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Timbuktu could lean west, it doesn't make it European. European isn't a choice, it's not a subjective identity.
Well Ukraine does not wish to be a soviet satellite state anymore, not "little Russia" anymore, there is hundreds of years of history here and previous attempts at independence before the USSR.
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Well Ukraine does not wish to be a soviet satellite state anymore, not "little Russia" anymore, there is hundreds of years of history here and previous attempts at independence before the USSR.
And I don't want Canada to be the 51st state, but geography makes America our master.
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Post proof he is renting out his expensive properties to Russians? I am not propping him up. Ukraine has its fair share of corruption. However the way in which they fight and sacrifice soldiers is very different to the way Russia treats its men. They have to fight smart because there is less of them and they tend to their wounded and collect bodies whereas Russia leaves men to die and rot. Nothing is clouding my perspective, I changed my mind about Russia and came down on the side of Ukraine half a year before meeting my girlfriend.
Ro just do a Internet search on Zelensky renting his Italian property out.
Ukraine has it fair share of corruption - Thats putting it very mildly.
As for how each side looks after its wounded I'm not in a position to comment,
I've not kept up with whats happening over there or bothered to speak much to anyone about it.
I'm neutral about Russia & Ukraine
My thoughts are Russia isn't all bad & always the bad one - A lot is Deceitful negative propaganda
It suits NATO & western countries to portray Russia that way.
And Ukraine was used / is used by America & NATO for their own benefits.
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Oak will take it to Putin!
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Defending Japan/Taiwan/Korea is saving America billions or Trillions.
Unlike Ukraine that's a part of the world that actually matters.
America relies on East Asia to kick ass, all of our industry and innovation is hard wired into East Asian supply chains.
America should spend lives and treasure to secure a position of dependency?
I'm not sold on this plan.
Remove regulatory shackles. Return to economic preeminence. Sip scotch and smoke cigars while asians fight over fish head scraps.
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America should spend lives and treasure to secure a position of dependency?
I'm not sold on this plan.
Remove regulatory shackles. Return to economic preeminence. Sip scotch and smoke cigars while asians fight over fish head scraps.
Those regulatory shackles are there for a reason.
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Defending Japan/Taiwan/Korea is saving America billions or Trillions.
Unlike Ukraine that's a part of the world that actually matters.
America relies on East Asia to kick ass, all of our industry and innovation is hard wired into East Asian supply chains.
The issue is Asians are thinking now is OUR TIME. China has grown up. It's saying fuck USA, "I am the Captain Now". The elites in the US can see this happening. So they want to try and take China down a peg while they think they still can. It's all ready too late though. They are just wasting their time. US is done for if you ask me.
(https://leaderborn.pro/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/look-at-me-i-am-the-captain-now.jpg)
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The US can stop food exports to China and cause a famine that will kill hundreds of millions in a few months.
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Well Ukraine does not wish to be a soviet satellite state anymore, not "little Russia" anymore, there is hundreds of years of history here and previous attempts at independence before the USSR.
Russkiy Mir is truly a horrible place. No wonder the ex USSR satellites scrambled to join the West at the earliest opportunity.
It's a Western world for better or worse. The rest of the world is a shitty place with backward values, primitive infrastructure and appalling human rights.
Here is a fun article from 2020. 30 million Russians have no indoor plumbing. (https://hromadske.ua/en/posts/russia-is-struggling-with-a-shitty-problem-literally)Says it all really.
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The Wagner group are flooding Europe with migrants by funding the boats.
I wouldnt be surprised if it isnt Russia thats behind the Trans movement in the West
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The Wagner group are flooding Europe with migrants by funding the boats.
I wouldnt be surprised if it isnt Russia thats behind the Trans movement in the West
There are well established links between Russian intelligence and Black Lives Matter. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_Black_Lives_Matter)
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The Wagner group are flooding Europe with migrants by funding the boats.
I wouldnt be surprised if it isnt Russia thats behind the Trans movement in the West
Putin's handlers willed it.