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Title: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MoralMan on October 31, 2009, 05:57:35 AM
As in where you take the bar off the squat rack and press overhead. No bounce from the legs or aything,strict shoulder press.
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Post by: spinnis on October 31, 2009, 06:02:12 AM
225 is strong.
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Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 31, 2009, 06:10:27 AM
I do 2010392193 pounds for reps, that's just me though....
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Post by: Per Se on October 31, 2009, 06:30:09 AM
i think 225
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Post by: oldtimer1 on October 31, 2009, 06:51:34 AM
Depends on the range of motion.  Some guys will do a half to 3 quarter rep with 225 when they couldn't do a real one with 185lbs.  Others will lean back and do a standing incline bench press. 

I do agree that 225lbs from touching the delts to full extension is damm strong.
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Post by: JimmyJam1974 on October 31, 2009, 06:52:24 AM
225 is very strong
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on October 31, 2009, 07:01:44 AM
I once saw an older guy repping 135 like it was nothing, I guess he did 15-20 reps and quite easily, just that was really impressive to me.
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Post by: WingedLion on October 31, 2009, 07:10:15 AM
185 full range is challenging

better try dumbells
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Post by: BB on October 31, 2009, 08:03:34 AM
Anything above bodyweight, if there is no layback.
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Post by: noworries on October 31, 2009, 08:13:11 AM
Anything above bodyweight, if there is no layback.

I was always told you should be able to lift your bodyweight over your head.  At 300 I was repping 315 easy for seated front presses and BNP.  I never did standing presses.  And yes I know there is no way I could lift my bodyweight right now. (before the jokes start flying)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MAXX on October 31, 2009, 08:49:47 AM
225 is strong for a natural

315 is strong juiced
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on October 31, 2009, 09:07:56 AM
225 is strong for a natural

315 is strong juiced

I have watched a guy do 325 before.  I was impressed
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: sean on October 31, 2009, 09:21:32 AM
Jesse Merude 365 overhead no belt. Countless reps.. the video is out there somewhere.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Method101 on October 31, 2009, 09:22:51 AM
I once saw an older guy repping 135 like it was nothing, I guess he did 15-20 reps and quite easily, just that was really impressive to me.
I can rep that shit out seated, and imo seated is harder since you can't get a boost with your legs
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on October 31, 2009, 09:28:13 AM
I can rep 225 for reps 6-8 fairly strict. A tiny bit of leg in it though. That is standing. Military feet together etc I dont know.

225 is a very good lift IMO especi if around 210lb mark or less

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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on October 31, 2009, 09:30:19 AM
I can rep that shit out seated, and imo seated is harder since you can't get a boost with your legs

Your point being?
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Post by: The.Giant on October 31, 2009, 09:49:49 AM
bodyweight for reps.
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Post by: _bruce_ on October 31, 2009, 10:13:25 AM
Can do 90 lbs... but I am a beast...  :D
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Post by: Pecs on October 31, 2009, 11:36:07 AM
I can rep that shit out seated, and imo seated is harder since you can't get a boost with your legs

For me i am able to press more weight seated as i can use some upper chest. Am I the minority??
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Boost on October 31, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
315 at a bodyweight of 440
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MoralMan on October 31, 2009, 11:51:44 AM
saw a guy about 225lbs do 2 and a half plates a side for 3 this week
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BB on October 31, 2009, 12:08:55 PM
You can do it, put your back into it.......

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HbaApmpa-Po/SliMgLfwazI/AAAAAAAABaM/BQ6IbGFKEJM/s1600/three.jpg) .


(http://jva.ontariostrongman.ca/BACKBE10.gif) .

Just an interesting look at back bend vs. modern strict.  Pics from the Deszo Ban and J.V. Askem sites.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Marty Champions on October 31, 2009, 01:16:26 PM
Jesse Merude 365 overhead no belt. Countless reps.. the video is out there somewhere.

hes dead from taking too much juice to lift incredible weight, he shouldve done one bottle of olive oil a day
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Post by: Mars on October 31, 2009, 01:17:28 PM
your mom was strong in her tone to let me come over tonight haha.
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Post by: spinnis on October 31, 2009, 01:18:26 PM
your mom was strong in her tone to let me come over tonight haha.

are you high mars?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Mars on October 31, 2009, 01:21:12 PM
are you high mars?

haha to be very honest, i was just about getting started with some friends.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on October 31, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
haha to be very honest, i was just about getting started with some friends.

Im thinking about the same thing, havent done it in a while now, just worried because I might get a job soon and if they are like " a drug test would be ok?"

I would be fucked  ;D
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Post by: IrishMuscle84 on October 31, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
225....lou ferrigno style. "arnold....arnold.....arn old....ARNOLD >:( ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: wavelength on October 31, 2009, 02:05:40 PM
Im thinking about the same thing, havent done it in a while now, just worried because I might get a job soon and if they are like " a drug test would be ok?"
I would be fucked  ;D

they don't really drug test do they?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on October 31, 2009, 02:07:22 PM
they don't really drug test do they?
most jobs here do them every now and then
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on October 31, 2009, 02:08:56 PM
You can do it, put your back into it.......

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HbaApmpa-Po/SliMgLfwazI/AAAAAAAABaM/BQ6IbGFKEJM/s1600/three.jpg) .


(http://jva.ontariostrongman.ca/BACKBE10.gif) .

Just an interesting look at back bend vs. modern strict.  Pics from the Deszo Ban and J.V. Askem sites.

The back bend was actually the modern technique. At first presses were more strict.

Here is a nice, strict gym press.

Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on October 31, 2009, 02:10:30 PM
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on October 31, 2009, 02:11:54 PM
The back bend was actually the modern technique. At first presses were more strict.

Here is a nice, strict gym press.



Evan C does a very strickt like 8 with 140kg sitting down in his video.. stitting down
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Marty Champions on October 31, 2009, 02:18:10 PM
The back bend was actually the modern technique. At first presses were more strict.

Here is a nice, strict gym press.



hes probably on the sausage
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on October 31, 2009, 02:20:21 PM
hes probably on the sausage

On teh roids? Definately. Without a doubt.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: funk51 on October 31, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
I do 2010392193 pounds for reps, that's just me though....
         r    u     related to sri chimmoy oh you didn't know google it.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BB on October 31, 2009, 02:24:31 PM
The back bend was actually the modern technique. At first presses were more strict.

Here is a nice, strict gym press.



Oh yeah, I'm familiar. I tend tend to look look at them from the perspective of:

 Pre WWII Strict press which was more or less a Military Press.

 Post WWII Strict with relaxed position rules on foot, head, and back bend/position.

 Post WWII "Dirty"- Extreme layback.


Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: funk51 on October 31, 2009, 02:25:17 PM
315 at a bodyweight of 440
                  is dat you?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on October 31, 2009, 02:25:53 PM
Heree is big Joe doing over 500 seated.  He did it on the News live just before leaving for the WSM.  But he sucked there.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: wavelength on October 31, 2009, 02:27:07 PM
most jobs here do them every now and then

that's crazy
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BB on October 31, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
                  is dat you?

Praise be Allah! It's the master of power and bulk.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: funk51 on October 31, 2009, 02:27:58 PM
you after you trained down
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Tre on October 31, 2009, 02:28:28 PM
225 is strong.

For you or me, maybe, but not for the real lifters around here. ;)

I think I was repping 185 the last time I did these. 
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on October 31, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
315 at a bodyweight of 440

If you are referring to me you are way off.  I was 300.  Give me 5 weeks and I could do 315 again if I can get in the gym more than 3 days a week.
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Post by: funk51 on October 31, 2009, 02:33:44 PM
all kidding aside paul anderson could handle quite a bit but for a normal human bill march did 390 lbs strict.
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Post by: funk51 on October 31, 2009, 02:34:43 PM
For you or me, maybe, but not for the real lifters around here. ;)

I think I was repping 185 the last time I did these. 
        you think you don't know.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: funk51 on October 31, 2009, 02:37:02 PM
If you are referring to me you are way off.  I was 300.  Give me 5 weeks and I could do 315 again if I can get in the gym more than 3 days a week.
           i'm just kidding with you big fellow, pics are actually anthony ditillo rip. i could do 255 at 175 lb bwt back in the day, not really a big deal i could only c and j it to terrible at the clean.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Steve Namat on October 31, 2009, 03:03:02 PM
225 is strong for a natural

315 is strong juiced
::)

Anyone who can press 200 in standing military is very STRONG. Especially if he pick up the bar from the floor.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on October 31, 2009, 03:07:24 PM
           i'm just kidding with you big fellow, pics are actually anthony ditillo rip. i could do 255 at 175 lb bwt back in the day, not really a big deal i could only c and j it to terrible at the clean.

Sorry I immediately figure any huge weight references is towards me.  And that lift for you is really good.  Anytime you do more than you weigh it is good.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: funk51 on October 31, 2009, 03:35:12 PM
Sorry I immediately figure any huge weight references is towards me.  And that lift for you is really good.  Anytime you do more than you weigh it is good.
                    no i just like to kid anyone who lifts and tries to improve themselves is all right by me.
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Post by: mesmorph78 on October 31, 2009, 03:41:15 PM
ive done 225
very hard and not really easy on the lower back..
seated is better
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Tre on October 31, 2009, 03:45:32 PM
        you think you don't know.

Yeah, it's not an exercise I've done very often and generally focused on form as opposed to the big numbers (relatively speaking ;)) I go for on other lifts.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MAXX on October 31, 2009, 04:27:13 PM
::)

Anyone who can press 200 in standing military is very STRONG. Especially if he pick up the bar from the floor.
no need to get all butt hurt

225 max on the military isn't "strong" for someone on juice.

look at goudy he does 225 natural. you would have to expect alot more for someone with 10x more test in their body..
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Post by: Steve Namat on October 31, 2009, 07:20:53 PM
no need to get all butt hurt

225 max on the military isn't "strong" for someone on juice.

look at goudy he does 225 natural. you would have to expect alot more for someone with 10x more test in their body..
That's OK but show me how many non-natural competitor can do reps with 225 in standing military...
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Post by: Ursus on October 31, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
Wow just wow!

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Post by: Mr Nobody on October 31, 2009, 08:01:14 PM
Debussey was doing 45 pounds in one of his posted workouts I think
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Post by: Mars on November 01, 2009, 01:57:24 AM
Im thinking about the same thing, havent done it in a while now, just worried because I might get a job soon and if they are like " a drug test would be ok?"

I would be fucked  ;D
really? wow, i think they only test here for jobs in the military, i have some friends who live inside an abandoned school for a while till they can get a house, they have a couple of huge weed plants inside one of the rooms there so each time they smoke their own stuff after they dried it. pretty cool.
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Post by: HTexan on November 01, 2009, 01:04:20 AM
1.5 * bodyweight for sets
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Post by: oldtimer1 on November 01, 2009, 07:46:28 AM
I'd like to know how many have the power to clean 225lbs to be in the position to military press it? 
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Post by: Topskin69 on November 01, 2009, 08:45:05 AM

Hmm... I can do about 185 for 6-8 reps..but I always do these by picking up the bar from the floor, and cleaning the bar up to my chest.

My strength = Fail. :(
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 01, 2009, 09:44:15 AM
I'd like to know how many have the power to clean 225lbs to be in the position to military press it? 

I do but I dont do it. I lift it off a rack
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Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on November 01, 2009, 09:51:24 AM
I'd like to know how many have the power to clean 225lbs to be in the position to military press it? 

PCing that should be a cinch, even for guys who weigh sub-200.  A lot of that movement is about coordination and technique, not just raw power, though raw power is definitely needed.  when I weighed in the 280s I pretty routinely did triples with 315 and up.
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Post by: Ursus on November 01, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
PCing that should be a cinch, even for guys who weigh sub-200.  A lot of that movement is about coordination and technique, not just raw power, though raw power is definitely needed.  when I weighed in the 280s I pretty routinely did triples with 315 and up.

Thats heavy. 280lbs bw! Any pics?
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Post by: SS on November 01, 2009, 09:55:38 AM
I'd like to know how many have the power to clean 225lbs to be in the position to military press it? 
Not many..........225 juiced or not is a very respecable weight.


But I doubt most can press 135 cause like deads..... they're a real mans lift that most aviod, cause they rather lay on their back and bounce the bar off their chest ::)
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Post by: mesmorph78 on November 01, 2009, 10:33:36 AM
I'd like to know how many have the power to clean 225lbs to be in the position to military press it? 
do those as well every rep the bar is returned to the floor... taxing excersise...
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Post by: funk51 on November 02, 2009, 10:31:46 AM
Wow just wow!


                 nice find, i remember a story where these students kidnapped serge and held him for ransom they had to bring him back because they couldn't afford to feed him . true story.
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Post by: tbombz on November 02, 2009, 11:15:09 AM
275 i woudl consider strong. 
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Post by: noworries on November 02, 2009, 01:45:12 PM
275 i woudl consider strong.  

For me personally it depends on the size of the guy what I would consider strong.  I know guys who weigh under 180 who can squat over 700 and bench over 400.  Some people thought I was pretty strong and I guess I was compared to most people but I know people who are stronger than me.  (not counting any competitive lifters then there would be many)  But I am talking just your run of the mill lifter in the gym.  I have done singles with 405 on the seated military.  I have tried 2 and barely got it with a finger help and on the 3rd rep had to have the guy almost high pull it.  But 315 I could do easily 8 reps and probably 12.  And when I do my reps (as anyone who has seen me lift will confirm 100%) I go all the down and most times rest it on my shoulders and then go all the way up.  I do not count half reps or 1/4 reps.  In fact I think that is embarrassing when I see people do those.  Same with my bench.  I rest it on my chest for at least a couple seconds and if I am feeling strong even longer.  I stretch at the bottom.  The other day I was actually benching 315 while I had my cell phone on my chest on speakerphone talking to my daughter.  Considering how big I was and still am I am very limber and flexible.  I am far from how strong I was but I am coming back slowly and at least forward.  My weight loss has been alot slower than I wanted but it is still going forward.  i am far from posing for you guys but I am getting closer strngth wise to video tape me doing some bench and military.  Once I can do the 405 easy again I will video it.  Same with doing the reps with 315.  As long as you guys don't rag on me to much for my tummy.  

By the way these lifts were also done 10 years after I competed and was off the juice.  In fact I was doing 315 military just 3 years ago.
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Post by: Hedgehog on November 03, 2009, 04:40:32 AM
For me personally it depends on the size of the guy what I would consider strong.  I know guys who weigh under 180 who can squat over 700 and bench over 400.

Weighs under 180 and squats over 700?

Who are these "guys"?

Hidalberto Aranda squatting 644 lbs for a double @170 is probably the most impressive squat feat ever.

But you got friends his weight who squats 700+? ::)


Names.
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Post by: WingedLion on November 03, 2009, 04:49:18 AM
Weighs under 180 and squats over 700?

Who are these "guys"?

Hidalberto Aranda squatting 644 lbs for a double @170 is probably the most impressive squat feat ever.

But you got friends his weight who squats 700+? ::)


Names.
:D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 03, 2009, 04:53:20 AM
Everybody I've ever watched do these uses at least some bounce/legs.  I think it's better to do them seated, which also protects your lower back.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 03, 2009, 05:33:08 AM
I am in a quandry in my gym atm

The gym has 80-85lb db's then they jump up to these huge thick handled 105-110 dbs. Cleaning them is a nightmare.

Nothing inbetween. I am thinking If i start off on DB's doing multiple sets of 3-5 to build up my strength on them so I can work up to sets of 8ish and do my standinng shoulder pressing later in the workout as I seem to be neglecting DB work and only focusing on BB work.

Thoughts?
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Post by: tbombz on November 03, 2009, 01:43:16 PM
I am in a quandry in my gym atm

The gym has 80-85lb db's then they jump up to these huge thick handled 105-110 dbs. Cleaning them is a nightmare.

Nothing inbetween. I am thinking If i start off on DB's doing multiple sets of 3-5 to build up my strength on them so I can work up to sets of 8ish and do my standinng shoulder pressing later in the workout as I seem to be neglecting DB work and only focusing on BB work.

Thoughts?
for a guy yoru size you shoudl be able to press 110's for working sets.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MAXX on November 03, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
I am in a quandry in my gym atm

The gym has 80-85lb db's then they jump up to these huge thick handled 105-110 dbs. Cleaning them is a nightmare.

Nothing inbetween. I am thinking If i start off on DB's doing multiple sets of 3-5 to build up my strength on them so I can work up to sets of 8ish and do my standinng shoulder pressing later in the workout as I seem to be neglecting DB work and only focusing on BB work.

Thoughts?
are there no people in your gym to help you put them in your hands  ???
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 03, 2009, 02:36:13 PM
I haven't done seated in a while...... Ive been doing them standing with strict form lately, cause unless i have a spotter it's such a pain in the nads to un rack the bar or do heavy dumbbells.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BB on November 03, 2009, 03:08:17 PM
I am in a quandry in my gym atm

The gym has 80-85lb db's then they jump up to these huge thick handled 105-110 dbs. Cleaning them is a nightmare.

Nothing inbetween. I am thinking If i start off on DB's doing multiple sets of 3-5 to build up my strength on them so I can work up to sets of 8ish and do my standinng shoulder pressing later in the workout as I seem to be neglecting DB work and only focusing on BB work.

Thoughts?


Personally if the bells are long enough, I'd Continental Clean(ugly clean with a slow up body drag) them into position and work low reps 1-3 for a while, and just try every workout to gut out an extra rep till I got back up to higher reps.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 03, 2009, 03:21:22 PM
225....child's play
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Post by: Marty Champions on November 03, 2009, 03:58:31 PM
For me personally it depends on the size of the guy what I would consider strong.  I know guys who weigh under 180 who can squat over 700 and bench over 400.  Some people thought I was pretty strong and I guess I was compared to most people but I know people who are stronger than me.  (not counting any competitive lifters then there would be many)  But I am talking just your run of the mill lifter in the gym.  I have done singles with 405 on the seated military.  I have tried 2 and barely got it with a finger help and on the 3rd rep had to have the guy almost high pull it.  But 315 I could do easily 8 reps and probably 12.  And when I do my reps (as anyone who has seen me lift will confirm 100%) I go all the down and most times rest it on my shoulders and then go all the way up.  I do not count half reps or 1/4 reps.  In fact I think that is embarrassing when I see people do those.  Same with my bench.  I rest it on my chest for at least a couple seconds and if I am feeling strong even longer.  I stretch at the bottom.  The other day I was actually benching 315 while I had my cell phone on my chest on speakerphone talking to my daughter.  Considering how big I was and still am I am very limber and flexible.  I am far from how strong I was but I am coming back slowly and at least forward.  My weight loss has been alot slower than I wanted but it is still going forward.  i am far from posing for you guys but I am getting closer strngth wise to video tape me doing some bench and military.  Once I can do the 405 easy again I will video it.  Same with doing the reps with 315.  As long as you guys don't rag on me to much for my tummy.  

By the way these lifts were also done 10 years after I competed and was off the juice.  In fact I was doing 315 military just 3 years ago.
I cant wait! :o good luck! ;)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 03, 2009, 04:29:11 PM
for a guy yoru size you shoudl be able to press 110's for working sets.

i do them as my 3rd exercise i also use full rom. fresh to failure prob got 7 or 8 reps.

i dont like bothering people for spots
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Marty Champions on November 03, 2009, 04:32:19 PM
I am in a quandry in my gym atm

The gym has 80-85lb db's then they jump up to these huge thick handled 105-110 dbs. Cleaning them is a nightmare.

Nothing inbetween. I am thinking If i start off on DB's doing multiple sets of 3-5 to build up my strength on them so I can work up to sets of 8ish and do my standinng shoulder pressing later in the workout as I seem to be neglecting DB work and only focusing on BB work.

Thoughts?

standing 110's is beast i know i couldnt do that, id probably have to eat 7000-8000 calories on a regular basis to attain that strength
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 03, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
225....child's play
Word! seated I can burn out with 225 for 18 reps after 3 heavy working sets.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 03, 2009, 05:23:29 PM
That's awesome how strong all you guys are.  I was just reading Wendler's 5/3/1 book where he talks about how his goal was to do a military press with 300lbs.  A goal he accomplished in summer 2008.  If you guys don't know who Wendler is, he is a powerlifter with the following lifts:700-pound deadlift, 675-pound bench press, 1000-pound squat.  He should have just come on here and learned from all of you guys how easy a 300 (or 400, or 500, or 600) lb. military press really is.

The truth is, in most gyms it will be damn rare to find a guy that can do a military press with 225 lbs.  Hell, its damn rare to find someone that does them at all.  SS and I trained at a hardcore gym with REAL powerlifters, many of whom had legitimate 500 lb benchs, several 600-700 lb squatters, and one guy that just deadlifted 815 lbs in competition, and I only ever saw 2 of them do over 225 on a strict military press.  Most of you are just full of shit.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 03, 2009, 05:47:06 PM
roid rage
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Marty Champions on November 03, 2009, 06:23:47 PM
i dont see many doing standing militarys with 225, you would have to be on a real special diet emphasising alot of fats and probably alot of carbs too  ;D i dont see many fairly lean dudes do standing 225
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 04, 2009, 02:51:56 AM
roid rage
Careful junior... 8)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Pecs on November 04, 2009, 05:14:54 AM
i can count with 1 palm how many people i actually see doing military with 225lbs with full ROM from shoulder to lockout.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on November 04, 2009, 07:25:13 AM
the heviest i can do (good form with no cheating) is 175 pounds for 5-6 reps and i am only 165 pounds!!..
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 04, 2009, 07:27:08 AM
Word! seated I can burn out with 225 for 18 reps after 3 heavy working sets.

Try the same with your own BW then fatty  ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: JasonH on November 04, 2009, 07:32:52 AM
That's awesome how strong all you guys are.  I was just reading Wendler's 5/3/1 book where he talks about how his goal was to do a military press with 300lbs.  A goal he accomplished in summer 2008.  If you guys don't know who Wendler is, he is a powerlifter with the following lifts:700-pound deadlift, 675-pound bench press, 1000-pound squat.  He should have just come on here and learned from all of you guys how easy a 300 (or 400, or 500, or 600) lb. military press really is.

The truth is, in most gyms it will be damn rare to find a guy that can do a military press with 225 lbs.  Hell, its damn rare to find someone that does them at all.  SS and I trained at a hardcore gym with REAL powerlifters, many of whom had legitimate 500 lb benchs, several 600-700 lb squatters, and one guy that just deadlifted 815 lbs in competition, and I only ever saw 2 of them do over 225 on a strict military press.  Most of you are just full of shit.

Woah, take it easy champ.....
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 04, 2009, 07:34:11 AM
Evan C repped 3 plates like it was nothing decent form also =)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 04, 2009, 07:54:03 AM
(http://stronglifts.com/images/ken-patera-elbows.jpg)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MAXX on November 04, 2009, 07:57:59 AM
Evan C repped 3 plates like it was nothing decent form also =)
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/2445/225/
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: bigmc on November 04, 2009, 08:04:19 AM
lots of world class power lifters in this thread  ::)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: kiwiol on November 04, 2009, 08:06:34 AM
I normally do 675 lb for 22 reps, but thanks to a severe shoulder injury, am reduced to doing 675 for 19 :(
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MAXX on November 04, 2009, 08:08:35 AM
I normally do 675 lb for 22 reps, but thanks to a severe shoulder injury, am reduced to doing 675 for 19 :(
hi Matt Duvall
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 04, 2009, 08:13:27 AM
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/2445/225/

1:43 in the video, God damn his form is amazing lol. I forgot how good he did it.

9 reps also, leans back a bit, but that doesnt really matter alot, he could get a few clean reps with his back 100% straight also.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: sean on November 04, 2009, 08:40:09 AM
ok. fewer reps than i remember but very strict/

Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MAXX on November 04, 2009, 08:46:50 AM
ok. fewer reps than i remember but very strict/


more of a pushpress. using his legs some.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 04, 2009, 10:00:39 AM
Woah, take it easy champ.....

Is there something in my post you disagree with, or just threw that out there to bump your post count?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 04, 2009, 10:28:42 AM
I find it amazing that anyone would come on here and say doing a military press with 225 is very rare.  I swear to god where do you guys train?  I leave most of my training partners in the dust in this exercise but at least everyone of them were able to do at least some reps with 225.  Now 315 I have to admit is something other than myself and several others in Hawaii and the Barbarian Brothers I have not seen at any other gym and I have easily trained at more than 200 gyms.  But 225 is not a big deal unless you are just weak, small, skinny or train at a place like Curves or the local Y or Country Club.  Honestly you kids need to train at a real gym.  Johnnynobody and Swede and skinny weak twinks like them I believe they have never seen anyone lift these kinds of weights.  But some of you guys have to train at a real gym I hope,  I am 50 years old and can go do reps with 225 with no warm up whatsoever.  So if this fat old man can do it so can you
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: JasonH on November 04, 2009, 11:03:03 AM
Is there something in my post you disagree with, or just threw that out there to bump your post count?

I disagree with your concept that it is rare to find someone who presses 225 - you seem to be getting very worked up about it. I've seen many people who can do that weight.

My post count is irrelevant - adding one post to nearly 6,000 over the last six years service to Getbig is hardly going to make a difference to me.

Relax stud, it ain't that serious.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 04, 2009, 11:10:46 AM
I find it amazing that anyone would come on here and say doing a military press with 225 is very rare.  I swear to god where do you guys train?  I leave most of my training partners in the dust in this exercise but at least everyone of them were able to do at least some reps with 225.  Now 315 I have to admit is something other than myself and several others in Hawaii and the Barbarian Brothers I have not seen at any other gym and I have easily trained at more than 200 gyms.  But 225 is not a big deal unless you are just weak, small, skinny or train at a place like Curves or the local Y or Country Club.  Honestly you kids need to train at a real gym.  Johnnynobody and Swede and skinny weak twinks like them I believe they have never seen anyone lift these kinds of weights.  But some of you guys have to train at a real gym I hope,  I am 50 years old and can go do reps with 225 with no warm up whatsoever.  So if this fat old man can do it so can you

I have seen under 100 kg lifter clean and jerk 180 kg. One guy deadlifted 300 kg for 6 reps. But heavy military presses are rare. Just accept it.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 04, 2009, 11:51:53 AM
I find it amazing that anyone would come on here and say doing a military press with 225 is very rare.  I swear to god where do you guys train?  I leave most of my training partners in the dust in this exercise but at least everyone of them were able to do at least some reps with 225.  Now 315 I have to admit is something other than myself and several others in Hawaii and the Barbarian Brothers I have not seen at any other gym and I have easily trained at more than 200 gyms.  But 225 is not a big deal unless you are just weak, small, skinny or train at a place like Curves or the local Y or Country Club.  Honestly you kids need to train at a real gym.  Johnnynobody and Swede and skinny weak twinks like them I believe they have never seen anyone lift these kinds of weights.  But some of you guys have to train at a real gym I hope,  I am 50 years old and can go do reps with 225 with no warm up whatsoever.  So if this fat old man can do it so can you

Yeah, and you're the same guy that said this:
"For me personally it depends on the size of the guy what I would consider strong.  I know guys who weigh under 180 who can squat over 700 and bench over 400.  Some people thought I was pretty strong and I guess I was compared to most people but I know people who are stronger than me.  (not counting any competitive lifters then there would be many)  But I am talking just your run of the mill lifter in the gym.  I have done singles with 405 on the seated military.  I have tried 2 and barely got it with a finger help and on the 3rd rep had to have the guy almost high pull it.  But 315 I could do easily 8 reps and probably 12.  And when I do my reps (as anyone who has seen me lift will confirm 100%) I go all the down and most times rest it on my shoulders and then go all the way up.  I do not count half reps or 1/4 reps.  In fact I think that is embarrassing when I see people do those.  Same with my bench.  I rest it on my chest for at least a couple seconds and if I am feeling strong even longer.  I stretch at the bottom.  The other day I was actually benching 315 while I had my cell phone on my chest on speakerphone talking to my daughter.  Considering how big I was and still am I am very limber and flexible.  I am far from how strong I was but I am coming back slowly and at least forward.  My weight loss has been alot slower than I wanted but it is still going forward.  i am far from posing for you guys but I am getting closer strngth wise to video tape me doing some bench and military.  Once I can do the 405 easy again I will video it.  Same with doing the reps with 315.  As long as you guys don't rag on me to much for my tummy. 

By the way these lifts were also done 10 years after I competed and was off the juice.  In fact I was doing 315 military just 3 years ago."

If you can do "405 easy" in the military press I'll kiss your ass.  You talk on the cell phone while benching 315?  And who are the guys under 180 that squat 700?  When I said most of the people here were full of shit, you were at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BB on November 04, 2009, 12:13:09 PM
Yes, they are rare. It also depends on were you train, if in the company of Olympic lifters or Strongmen, you probably have a better chance of seeing big presses. Powerlifting gyms, it depends.

I'm still sticking by anything better than BW for your average lifter. Something to consider is that huge pressers in strict style(Hepburn, Anderson, etc....) were only pressing about 120-125% of bodyweight for World records.

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The double layback style of the 50's- early 70's boosted that to about 140% of bodyweight for the biggest record holders.

The one sticky wicket is the lighter classes, they are usually around 150-170% of bodyweight.

As for a real Military press, I don't know, the feet together rule kills poundages.

In talking with, and observing overhead strong lifters, most of their overheads are 70%-75 of their bench press at the top end.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 04, 2009, 12:19:09 PM
I find it amazing that anyone would come on here and say doing a military press with 225 is very rare.  I swear to god where do you guys train?  I leave most of my training partners in the dust in this exercise but at least everyone of them were able to do at least some reps with 225.  Now 315 I have to admit is something other than myself and several others in Hawaii and the Barbarian Brothers I have not seen at any other gym and I have easily trained at more than 200 gyms.  But 225 is not a big deal unless you are just weak, small, skinny or train at a place like Curves or the local Y or Country Club.  Honestly you kids need to train at a real gym.  Johnnynobody and Swede and skinny weak twinks like them I believe they have never seen anyone lift these kinds of weights.  But some of you guys have to train at a real gym I hope,  I am 50 years old and can go do reps with 225 with no warm up whatsoever.  So if this fat old man can do it so can you

Seriously please just post a video. You ahve been threatening to do so for 3 years. Please just take one of a bench press and a standing press.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: TRIX on November 04, 2009, 01:38:08 PM
all drugs
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 04, 2009, 01:50:41 PM
Also most guys who rep 225lbs on standing press bvench press between 350 adn 400lbs. Id say thats strong and something you would get in curves like onlyme says
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: dov on November 04, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
I'd estimate that less than 1% of gym goers can military press 225lbs for 8reps(bar comes down to chin) while standing...........waaaa aaay less than 1%
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Aaron Singerman on November 04, 2009, 02:20:22 PM
I do 275 with strict form for 8...
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 04, 2009, 02:25:16 PM
I'd estimate that less than 1% of gym goers can military press 225lbs for 8reps(bar comes down to chin) while standing...........waaaa aaay less than 1%

Average gym goer doesn't have the coordination to squat that for a single.  ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: HTexan on November 04, 2009, 02:29:22 PM
Average gym goer doesn't have the coordination to squat that for a single.  ;D
yup, yup most do have a pussy ass sloppy form.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: dov on November 04, 2009, 03:59:40 PM
I do 275 with strict form for 8...
Well, well "AaronSingman", we finally meet. Been hearing your name a lot. Why does everybody seem to despise you?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 04, 2009, 04:21:32 PM
Seriously please just post a video. You ahve been threatening to do so for 3 years. Please just take one of a bench press and a standing press.

The real reason why I don't quite yet is because first I could maybe do 405 for one.  That is embarassing so that won't happen yet.  225 I could do for 8 I am sure but I don't feel like getting on camera quite yet.  And I might have said this 3 years ago but I was still under the weather and in fact spent two weeks in the hospital for my leg.  This year actually has been good .  I have only had one episode with my leg but a couple serious ones with my ankle.  So training has been steady but not really serious yet.  Give me a little time I am an old man now.  But I will do it cause I want to show the young whipper snappers that an old man can still be strong and drug free now for 23 years.  And when I was doing it was only for about 6 months.  So no big deal.  I was just as strong 10 years after I quit.  But, I would like to get my shoulders back to this shape
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: dov on November 04, 2009, 04:24:06 PM
I find it amazing that anyone would come on here and say doing a military press with 225 is very rare.  I swear to god where do you guys train?  I leave most of my training partners in the dust in this exercise but at least everyone of them were able to do at least some reps with 225.  Now 315 I have to admit is something other than myself and several others in Hawaii and the Barbarian Brothers I have not seen at any other gym and I have easily trained at more than 200 gyms.  But 225 is not a big deal unless you are just weak, small, skinny or train at a place like Curves or the local Y or Country Club.  Honestly you kids need to train at a real gym.  Johnnynobody and Swede and skinny weak twinks like them I believe they have never seen anyone lift these kinds of weights.  But some of you guys have to train at a real gym I hope,  I am 50 years old and can go do reps with 225 with no warm up whatsoever.  So if this fat old man can do it so can you
WTF? Now, all of sudden, you need time?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Hedgehog on November 04, 2009, 04:29:35 PM
Keith, you keep dodging the question about your claim about your friends who weigh less than 180 and squats 700 lbs. Who are they?

Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 04, 2009, 04:37:18 PM
Keith, you keep dodging the question about your claim about your friends who weigh less than 180 and squats 700 lbs. Who are they?



Please show me where the question.  i don't dodge anything (almost).  Several in Hawaii like Jesse Jackson and Quincy Guzman.  All on record doing that in competition.  A 140 lb guy benching 440 I think.  A girl weighing 160 benching 400+  Do you need more.  Try looking on the record books and seeing the people from Hawaii.  I hope I answered your question so you can now go to bed.

WTF? Now, all of sudden, you need time?

Yea why.  Lets do this.  You and me will have a race to see who can bench 405 and military 315 first. Ok.  I am sure with all your critique you must be right there.  So lets do that.  That will get time on the ball faster.  See right now I am going nice and slow cause see I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone cause I have already what you dream about in lifting.  Right now I am trying to get bck to that place in lifting even being 4 or 5 years older than the last time I did that kind of weight.  So instead of pushing me, lets push each other.  Lets havea race to those lifts and as soon as you can do it post the video and then I will.  Okay
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Marty Champions on November 04, 2009, 04:39:38 PM
im in full encouragement of onlymes weightloss and military goals
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: dov on November 04, 2009, 04:43:13 PM
Please show me where the question.  i don't dodge anything (almost).  Several in Hawaii like Jesse Jackson and Quincy Guzman.  All on record doing that in competition.  A 140 lb guy benching 440 I think.  A girl weighing 160 benching 400+  Do you need more.  Try looking on the record books and seeing the people from Hawaii.  I hope I answered your question so you can now go to bed.

Yea why.  Lets do this.  You and me will have a race to see who can bench 405 and military 315 first. Ok.  I am sure with all your critique you must be right there.  So lets do that.  That will get time on the ball faster.  See right now I am going nice and slow cause see I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone cause I have already what you dream about in lifting.  Right now I am trying to get bck to that place in lifting even being 4 or 5 years older than the last time I did that kind of weight.  So instead of pushing me, lets push each other.  Lets havea race to those lifts and as soon as you can do it post the video and then I will.  Okay
No thanks, I don't care to gain 200lbs and use steroids to wreck my body. I'd much rather just look the way I do. To lift that weight has never been my goal. You say that you need no warm-up to walk in teh gym and press 225 reps...let's see it. I will challenge you to a bodybuilding contest. What say you?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 04, 2009, 06:35:47 PM

I'm no fashion plate but what are you wearing?  I would love to see you on video cleaning 225lbs and pressing it from touching your body to full extension.  You do look very strong.


The real reason why I don't quite yet is because first I could maybe do 405 for one.  That is embarassing so that won't happen yet.  225 I could do for 8 I am sure but I don't feel like getting on camera quite yet.  And I might have said this 3 years ago but I was still under the weather and in fact spent two weeks in the hospital for my leg.  This year actually has been good .  I have only had one episode with my leg but a couple serious ones with my ankle.  So training has been steady but not really serious yet.  Give me a little time I am an old man now.  But I will do it cause I want to show the young whipper snappers that an old man can still be strong and drug free now for 23 years.  And when I was doing it was only for about 6 months.  So no big deal.  I was just as strong 10 years after I quit.  But, I would like to get my shoulders back to this shape
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 04, 2009, 07:15:53 PM
Yeah, and you're the same guy that said this:
"For me personally it depends on the size of the guy what I would consider strong.  I know guys who weigh under 180 who can squat over 700 and bench over 400.  Some people thought I was pretty strong and I guess I was compared to most people but I know people who are stronger than me.  (not counting any competitive lifters then there would be many)  But I am talking just your run of the mill lifter in the gym.  I have done singles with 405 on the seated military.  I have tried 2 and barely got it with a finger help and on the 3rd rep had to have the guy almost high pull it.  But 315 I could do easily 8 reps and probably 12.  And when I do my reps (as anyone who has seen me lift will confirm 100%) I go all the down and most times rest it on my shoulders and then go all the way up.  I do not count half reps or 1/4 reps.  In fact I think that is embarrassing when I see people do those.  Same with my bench.  I rest it on my chest for at least a couple seconds and if I am feeling strong even longer.  I stretch at the bottom.  The other day I was actually benching 315 while I had my cell phone on my chest on speakerphone talking to my daughter.  Considering how big I was and still am I am very limber and flexible.  I am far from how strong I was but I am coming back slowly and at least forward.  My weight loss has been alot slower than I wanted but it is still going forward.  i am far from posing for you guys but I am getting closer strngth wise to video tape me doing some bench and military.  Once I can do the 405 easy again I will video it.  Same with doing the reps with 315.  As long as you guys don't rag on me to much for my tummy. 

By the way these lifts were also done 10 years after I competed and was off the juice.  In fact I was doing 315 military just 3 years ago."

If you can do "405 easy" in the military press I'll kiss your ass.  You talk on the cell phone while benching 315?  And who are the guys under 180 that squat 700?  When I said most of the people here were full of shit, you were at the top of the list.
HAHAHAHAHA! Careful Nick or he'll call you "kid" and brag about lfitng his 430lb carcass out of his double wide lazy boy and into his bad ass 2004 rascal.........He's the only guy in history that uses a spider bite for packing on over 300lbs ::)......Oh and he sat next to Jonsey from the police academy back in 1983 ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 04, 2009, 10:43:07 PM
HAHAHAHAHA! Careful Nick or he'll call you "kid" and brag about lfitng his 430lb carcass out of his double wide lazy boy and into his bad ass 2004 rascal.........He's the only guy in history that uses a spider bite for packing on over 300lbs ::)......Oh and he sat next to Jonsey from the police academy back in 1983 ;D

Oh god not another mouthy nobody trying to fit in somewhere he can't.  Save it you don't see me flooding threads you relate to like cock-sucking and butt fucking guys.  So don't try and to act like something you aren't

I'm no fashion plate but what are you wearing?  I would love to see you on video cleaning 225lbs and pressing it from touching your body to full extension.  You do look very strong.



That is my barbarian look

No thanks, I don't care to gain 200lbs and use steroids to wreck my body. I'd much rather just look the way I do. To lift that weight has never been my goal. You say that you need no warm-up to walk in teh gym and press 225 reps...let's see it. I will challenge you to a bodybuilding contest. What say you?

Good cop out.  Typical response from someone like you.  And why would I challenge you in a bb contest.  I never challenged you and not once have I ever said I was a BB, ever thought of competing or anything close.  I chose a sport that I became a National and World Champion in.  Please list exactly what BB contests you have won.  You are on here trying to make you look better by putting me down and I am willing to shut your mouth and prove you wrong.  See you started it.  The problem guys like you have is you have no ammo to fight with.  Sure you can call me fat but honestly is that ll you got.  Anything I say I can either prove with photos or you can simply call the Gold's Gym in Honolulu or Kona or ask many other very reputable people who know how strong I was and am.  I crack up when people like you try so hard to make yourself look better than possible by trying to belittle someone else.  it is hilarious.  Please come at me with something better than you have so far.  Cause it is really weak.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Aaron Singerman on November 04, 2009, 11:03:51 PM
Well, well "AaronSingman", we finally meet. Been hearing your name a lot. Why does everybody seem to despise you?

The norm... My good looks... My incredible wealth... My irresistible Sex appeal... etc...
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: 11venthhour on November 04, 2009, 11:55:21 PM
i have worked out in a handfull of gyms and have only seen 2 guys rep 225 good form on the standing military. both of them were on steroids.
i have done 225 for 1, but my back was arched, and i didn't take it from the ground. when i did it i probably could not have taken it form the ground. i have done the 100's to the chin for like 4 reps.
now with that said, i think it is very rare these days to see some doing a 225 military press. for the most bench is the only barbell workout i see guys do in the gym. now i have never worked out in strength gym, or anything of that nature, which i presume most of us don't. i worked out at fitness center last year and i was doing 135 and struggling with it, maybe 5 reps, and a guy walked up to me and said that i was pretty strong.
225 on the flat bench in most gyms is considered a good lift.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 05:57:51 AM
So onlyme, you call me a weak twink lol? After Ive been nice to you.


Well I do my BW for reps and you do your BW for reps?

Lets see whos the strongest?  ....oh thats right, you don't even have the mental strenght to some cardio you obese piece of shit.

And I think you owe a few guys some money also right? Maby you get to that issue after you loose your weight? lol! Selfish fat bastard.

you keep bragging about 315..

315 aint SHIT when you're 300 pounds yourself.

Now, post a few 20 yr old photos, to keep yourself living in that little dream insted of facing your reality which you have infront of you right now.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: WingedLion on November 05, 2009, 06:00:33 AM
So onlyme, you call me a weak twink lol?


I do my BW for reps and you do your BW for reps?

Lets see whos the strongest?


you keep bragging about 315..

315 aint SHIT when you're 300 pounds yourself.
:D

careful

he'll 45 paragraph melt on you
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 06:37:14 AM
So onlyme, you call me a weak twink lol? After Ive been nice to you.


Well I do my BW for reps and you do your BW for reps?

Lets see whos the strongest?  ....oh thats right, you don't even have the mental strenght to some cardio you obese piece of shit.

And I think you owe a few guys some money also right? Maby you get to that issue after you loose your weight? lol! Selfish fat bastard.

you keep bragging about 315..

315 aint SHIT when you're 300 pounds yourself.

Now, post a few 20 yr old photos, to keep yourself living in that little dream insted of facing your reality which you have infront of you right now.
HAHAHAHA! 300 lbs!!!  yeah, maybe his leftover food stains weigh 300 lbs, but there's no way that stinky has been nobody, weighs under 450......... 8)

Q the "kids" and "use to" meltdowns by stinkyboykeith.


It's not where you been..... It's where your at!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: MAXX on November 05, 2009, 06:40:59 AM
315 aint SHIT when you're 300 pounds yourself.
this is really a dumb statement

So Ronnie Coleman doing military with 315 is not impressive?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 06:42:03 AM
this is really a dumb statement

So Ronnie Coleman doing military with 315 is not impressive?

nope. Its still only bw.

Its strong ofc, But I would be more impressed with a 150 pound guy doing 200 for example etc.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 08:00:04 AM
Oh god not another mouthy nobody trying to fit in somewhere he can't.  Save it you don't see me flooding threads you relate to like cock-sucking and butt fucking guys.  So don't try and to act like something you aren't

That is my barbarian look

Good cop out.  Typical response from someone like you.  And why would I challenge you in a bb contest.  I never challenged you and not once have I ever said I was a BB, ever thought of competing or anything close.  I chose a sport that I became a National and World Champion in.  Please list exactly what BB contests you have won.  You are on here trying to make you look better by putting me down and I am willing to shut your mouth and prove you wrong.  See you started it.  The problem guys like you have is you have no ammo to fight with.  Sure you can call me fat but honestly is that ll you got.  Anything I say I can either prove with photos or you can simply call the Gold's Gym in Honolulu or Kona or ask many other very reputable people who know how strong I was and am.  I crack up when people like you try so hard to make yourself look better than possible by trying to belittle someone else.  it is hilarious.  Please come at me with something better than you have so far.  Cause it is really weak.
Are you eating while you're on the phone repping 315?

Is that how you got all these food stains on your shirt? or are you like all fat lazy people and just don't care about your appearance?.... Like your overgrown finger nails and reported body order at the Arnold, for instance?

  How you can rip on Swed, dov, and leafybug......when they're all in shape, young and have their whole life ahead of them with their families and you're just a fat slob that lives in the past that makes nothing but excuses ::)
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Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 05, 2009, 08:02:56 AM
you're just a fat slob that lives in the past that makes nothing but excuse ::)


The brutality is staggering.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on November 05, 2009, 08:11:20 AM
Are you eating while you're on the phone repping 315?

Is that how you got all these food stains on your shirt? or are you like all fat lazy people and just don't care about your appearance?.... Like your overgrown finger nails and reported body order at the Arnold, for instance?

  How you can rip on Swed, dov, and leafybug......when they're all in shape, young and have their whole life ahead of them with their families and you're just a fat slob that lives in the past that makes nothing but excuse ::)
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Remind me never to get on your bad side ;D ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 05, 2009, 08:16:35 AM
nope. Its still only bw.

Its strong ofc, But I would be more impressed with a 150 pound guy doing 200 for example etc.

You ignorance shines with every post.  You are about as impressive in anything as Johnnynobody is.  You gotta love kids like you who will never ever be impressive no matter how much you talk on the internet.  The only things you two may have going for you is parts in movies where they need skinny, ugly gay looking guys to play a dead body.  you guys are my daily dose of "funny".  I love watching under-achievers mock others to make themselves look better.  Hurry up with some more cause I gotta go pretty soon and I need more funny.   hahahaha
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 05, 2009, 08:22:41 AM
You ignorance shines with every post.  You are about as impressive in anything as Johnnynobody is.  You gotta love kids like you who will never ever be impressive no matter how much you talk on the internet.  The only things you two may have going for you is parts in movies where they need skinny, ugly gay looking guys to play a dead body.  you guys are my daily dose of "funny".  I love watching under-achievers mock others to make themselves look better.  Hurry up with some more cause I gotta go pretty soon and I need more funny.   hahahaha

Yes !!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 08:26:22 AM
You ignorance shines with every post.  You are about as impressive in anything as Johnnynobody is.  You gotta love kids like you who will never ever be impressive no matter how much you talk on the internet.  The only things you two may have going for you is parts in movies where they need skinny, ugly gay looking guys to play a dead body.  you guys are my daily dose of "funny".  I love watching under-achievers mock others to make themselves look better.  Hurry up with some more cause I gotta go pretty soon and I need more funny.   hahahaha

hahaha, for fuck sake man, look at your life.

Hey, stand up and jump 5 times just for the heck of it?

oops, you cant even do that, prisoner in your own body.

You cant pretty much do any sport at all can you? This whole "haha you guys are nothing" only works for so long buddy, One of these days you accidentally look yourself in the mirror and break down and cry, and then your fatass wouldn't be able to get up again haha.

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Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 08:33:05 AM
Yes !!!!   ;D
To be only 50yrs old and look like this is simply........ breathtaking!

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Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 08:34:21 AM
To be only 50yrs old and look like this is simply........ breathtaking!

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can you imagine how long he thought about standing up like that?

probably took him 2 hours to actually summon the strenght to do it
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: kiwiol on November 05, 2009, 08:36:22 AM
To be only 50yrs old and look like this is simply........ breathtaking!

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I remember all the threads what 3 years ago when those pics were posted? Squad had a field day with them later on, lol

And Onlyme was going to lose weight and get back into shape back then :-\
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
people didnt even notice my funny ass photoshop  ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 08:40:24 AM
can you imagine how long he thought about standing up like that?

probably took him 2 hours to actually summon the strenght to do it
Couple people that were there told me that he literally smelled like ass.


You're just jealous "kid" cause onlyfat can easily bench 315 while on the phone with Stallone @ a body weight of 440lbs....... ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 08:42:59 AM
I remember all the threads what 3 years ago when those pics were posted? Squad had a field day with them later on, lol

And Onlyme was going to lose weight and get back into shape back then :-\
Shit!..... well then he must of lost an easy 200lbs by now :-X
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 08:44:25 AM
Shit!..... well then he must of lost an easy 200lbs by now :-X

100 pounds, and that means in reality about 75-80 in 3+ years hahahaha.

And he has the nerve to rag on other people hahahahaha.

to be honest, it doesnt really matter if he looses the weight, he will just end up with a huuge ammount of loose skin, the dudes life is pretty much over.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 08:46:43 AM
100 pounds, and that means in reality about 75-80 in 3+ years hahahaha.

And he has the nerve to rag on other people hahahahaha.
That's just it..........instead of bettering himself he rather cut down others and use his past, cause that's all he has.


Poor kid really needs to roll away from the buffet table.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 08:49:56 AM
That's just it..........instead of bettering himself he rather cut down others and use his past, cause that's all he has.


Poor kid really needs to roll away from the buffet table.

can you imagine the look of the buffet owner when keith rolls in licking his fingers and already has a shirt full of food stains?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 05, 2009, 09:13:42 AM
Kid you'll never make it.  I remember back in 1978 when I banged Nell Carter at the battle of the network stars.  I accomplished more in my life than all you snot nosed punks combined.  I appeared on an episode of McGyver where I fell on him and he had to fashion a blow torch with a bic lighter, a used tampon and a vanilla wafer to burn me to get me off him.  You kids will never amount to shit sitting in your mamas basement.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 09:14:46 AM
Kid you'll never make it.  I remember back in 1978 when I banged Nell Carter at the battle of the network stars.  I accomplished more in my life than all you snot nosed punks combined.  I appeared on an episode of McGyver where I fell on him and he had to fashion a blow torch with a bic lighter, a used tampon and a vanilla wafer to burn me to get me off him.  You kids will never amount to shit sitting in your mamas basement.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 05, 2009, 09:16:54 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I figured since keith isn't here, I'd help him out.   8)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 09:21:47 AM
I figured since keith isn't here, I'd help him out.   8)
His caregiver told me that he will be stuck on the toilet for a bit cause the board he uses to slide from his rascal to the pot snapped in half and he just has to sit there and wait till someone brings him a new obese transfer board.


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Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: dov on November 05, 2009, 09:28:15 AM

Good cop out.  Typical response from someone like you.  And why would I challenge you in a bb contest.  I never challenged you and not once have I ever said I was a BB, ever thought of competing or anything close.  I chose a sport that I became a National and World Champion in.  Please list exactly what BB contests you have won.  You are on here trying to make you look better by putting me down and I am willing to shut your mouth and prove you wrong. See you started it.  The problem guys like you have is you have no ammo to fight with.  Sure you can call me fat but honestly is that ll you got.  Anything I say I can either prove with photos or you can simply call the Gold's Gym in Honolulu or Kona or ask many other very reputable people who know how strong I was and am.  I crack up when people like you try so hard to make yourself look better than possible by trying to belittle someone else.  it is hilarious.  Please come at me with something better than you have so far.  Cause it is really weak.
No, you started it. You say no warm up, walk in gym and rep out 225. I, along with others, ask to see it. Then, you say that you need time. I never claimed to be able to rep out 225, then you challenge me to bench/milpress competition. WTF? That's why I challenged you to a BB contest. See how stupid both are? Again, faaar less than 1% of gym members around world can stand mil press 225 for one solid rep.

Bottom line....Can you(fatman) walk into any gym in one hour from now and rep out 225 on stand mil press? Just for clarification, I cannot. I'm guessing that you can't either.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 05, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
No, you started it. You say no warm up, walk in gym and rep out 225. I, along with others, ask to see it. Then, you say that you need time. I never claimed to be able to rep out 225, then you challenge me to bench/milpress competition. WTF? That's why I challenged you to a BB contest. See how stupid both are? Again, faaar less than 1% of gym members around world can stand mil press 225 for one solid rep.

Bottom line....Can you(fatman) walk into any gym in one hour from now and rep out 225 on stand mil press? Just for clarification, I cannot. I'm guessing that you can't either.
I'll take him up on that challenge, but def not a food eating challenge......no way no how and I'm a big eater.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: spinnis on November 05, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
No, you started it. You say no warm up, walk in gym and rep out 225. I, along with others, ask to see it. Then, you say that you need time. I never claimed to be able to rep out 225, then you challenge me to bench/milpress competition. WTF? That's why I challenged you to a BB contest. See how stupid both are? Again, faaar less than 1% of gym members around world can stand mil press 225 for one solid rep.

Bottom line....Can you(fatman) walk into any gym in one hour from now and rep out 225 on stand mil press? Just for clarification, I cannot. I'm guessing that you can't either.

Walk? did you just say walk? lol
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 03:38:40 PM
No, you started it. You say no warm up, walk in gym and rep out 225. I, along with others, ask to see it. Then, you say that you need time. I never claimed to be able to rep out 225, then you challenge me to bench/milpress competition. WTF? That's why I challenged you to a BB contest. See how stupid both are? Again, faaar less than 1% of gym members around world can stand mil press 225 for one solid rep.

Bottom line....Can you(fatman) walk into any gym in one hour from now and rep out 225 on stand mil press? Just for clarification, I cannot. I'm guessing that you can't either.

I'll take him up on it too.  I can only do 1, and I can't clean it, I have to take if off a rack.  On the other hand, I weigh 206 right now, and I can walk all the way from my car to the rack to do it, so that should count for something.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 05, 2009, 03:40:30 PM
I'll take him up on it too.  I can only do 1, and I can't clean it, I have to take if off a rack.  On the other hand, I weigh 206 right now, and I can walk all the way from my car to the rack to do it, so that should count for something.

haha, classic.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 05, 2009, 04:26:11 PM
No, you started it. You say no warm up, walk in gym and rep out 225. I, along with others, ask to see it. Then, you say that you need time. I never claimed to be able to rep out 225, then you challenge me to bench/milpress competition. WTF? That's why I challenged you to a BB contest. See how stupid both are? Again, faaar less than 1% of gym members around world can stand mil press 225 for one solid rep.

Bottom line....Can you(fatman) walk into any gym in one hour from now and rep out 225 on stand mil press? Just for clarification, I cannot. I'm guessing that you can't either.

Okay I have easily owned the other morons.  Here you own yourself you dipshit.  Where did I say I could do 225 standing.  Please post for me to remind me.  See again you and the other idiots trying to make themselves look better by putting in your own little spin on words.  Face it you and Swede and SS and Stoppa or whatever are here for fun.  It is obvious you guys don't lift or do anything much else.  When and if you get to be 50 you can look back and talk about your thousands of posts on Getbig.  You are faceless and gutless kid who can type.  You and the others impress me and everyone else on here as much a dog shitting in the park.  Come back with your lame Keith is so fat shit.  It is really old.  At least come up with something new.  And from the sound of it you guys need to spend more time on the Getweak and Skawny Board.  What is really funny how you guys probably don't even lift.  What is the website you guys hang out on when you aren't here.  you guys are in your 20's and 30' maybe and you haven't done shit.  That is not only pathetic but sad.  How lucky are you guys that the internet was invented.  What the fuck would you be doing.  But man you are lucky you have the internet.  Your lives would be even more sad and pathetic. hahahahaaha  now come back with the boring fat jokes.  But at least new ones
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 05, 2009, 04:28:51 PM
Okay I have easily owned the other morons.  Here you own yourself you dipshit.  Where did I say I could do 225 standing.  Please post for me to remind me.  See again you and the other idiots trying to make themselves look better by putting in your own little spin on words.  Face it you and Swede and SS and Stoppa or whatever are here for fun.  It is obvious you guys don't lift or do anything much else.  When and if you get to be 50 you can look back and talk about your thousands of posts on Getbig.  You are faceless and gutless kid who can type.  You and the others impress me and everyone else on here as much a dog shitting in the park.  Come back with your lame Keith is so fat shit.  It is really old.  At least come up with something new.  And from the sound of it you guys need to spend more time on the Getweak and Skawny Board.  What is really funny how you guys probably don't even lift.  What is the website you guys hang out on when you aren't here.  you guys are in your 20's and 30' maybe and you haven't done shit.  That is not only pathetic but sad.  How lucky are you guys that the internet was invented.  What the fuck would you be doing.  But man you are lucky you have the internet.  Your lives would be even more sad and pathetic. hahahahaaha  now come back with the boring fat jokes.  But at least new ones

Hey I got a shout out!  Could you call me "kid" next time keef? 
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 05, 2009, 04:33:25 PM
I'll take him up on it too.  I can only do 1, and I can't clean it, I have to take if off a rack.  On the other hand, I weigh 206 right now, and I can walk all the way from my car to the rack to do it, so that should count for something.

Yea sure you would.  Instead just post a video.  Come on bigmouth.  At 206 you must be HUGE.  What is the girl's name you train with if you even train.  Again a newbie with a big mouth.  Where do you guys come from

That's just it..........instead of bettering himself he rather cut down others and use his past, cause that's all he has.


Poor kid really needs to roll away from the buffet table.

hahahaha exactly.  And just think you have NOTHING.  and you know what my past made me money then and it makes me money now.  You are going to be a sad nobody when you get older just like you are now.  Big mouth with nothing to back it up.  And I am fat and still do more than you in life and in the gym.  That must really make you feel like shit like the others.  I would be pissed off too and call me names and shit if it would make me feel better.  Fuck I couldn't imagine having to walk around like you have to.  That would make me feel like shit too.  I have no idea what it is like to be unaccomplished, a failure, a nothing and a nobody.  By the time I was your age I had already won a National and World Title and featured in magazines and newspapers.  You and the others haven't done shit.  Sorry man for your lives.  It really must suck.  I couldn't stand it.  At least you have the INternet to play on and pretend to be someone.  Thank god.

Hey I got a shout out!  Could you call me "kid" next time keef? 

Okay Kid
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: odilly on November 05, 2009, 04:45:59 PM
hate to step intot he cross fire but check out some of the shoulder press vids on you tube






i think that seated dumbell press is pretty cool, except for the mouthgaurd
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: WingedLion on November 05, 2009, 04:47:59 PM
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Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Andy Griffin on November 05, 2009, 04:50:51 PM
Ask the man...

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Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 05:05:43 PM
Yea sure you would.  Instead just post a video.  Come on bigmouth.  At 206 you must be HUGE.  What is the girl's name you train with if you even train.  Again a newbie with a big mouth.  Where do you guys come from

I never said I was huge.  I said I can military press 225 once at 206lbs.  BTW, I'm 45 and can still see my abs.  I don't use being 45 as an excuse to gain 200 lbs of lard.  You said you can do "405 easy".  And you challenge me to post a video cuz you can't believe I can press 225 once, but everyone should believe you could do 405?  I don't have a video camera, but I can borrow one.  You pick the date, and I'll post a video of me doing 225 in perfect form 1 time.  I'll have someone stand next to me holding that days newspaper to verify that I am doing it now.  You do the same with 405.   
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 05:15:35 PM
Quote from: noworries
Where did I say I could do 225 standing.  Please post for me to remind me.  See again you and the other idiots trying to make themselves look better by putting in your own little spin on words.



I find it amazing that anyone would come on here and say doing a military press with 225 is very rare.  I swear to god where do you guys train?  I leave most of my training partners in the dust in this exercise but at least everyone of them were able to do at least some reps with 225.  Now 315 I have to admit is something other than myself and several others in Hawaii and the Barbarian Brothers I have not seen at any other gym and I have easily trained at more than 200 gyms.  But 225 is not a big deal unless you are just weak, small, skinny or train at a place like Curves or the local Y or Country Club.  Honestly you kids need to train at a real gym.  Johnnynobody and Swede and skinny weak twinks like them I believe they have never seen anyone lift these kinds of weights.  But some of you guys have to train at a real gym I hope,  I am 50 years old and can go do reps with 225 with no warm up whatsoever.  So if this fat old man can do it so can you

Here lardass. 50 is a little young for Alzheimer's isn't it?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: chaos on November 05, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
I never said I was huge.  I said I can military press 225 once at 206lbs.  BTW, I'm 45 and can still see my abs.  I don't use being 45 as an excuse to gain 200 lbs of lard.  You said you can do "405 easy".  And you challenge me to post a video cuz you can't believe I can press 225 once, but everyone should believe you could do 405?  I don't have a video camera, but I can borrow one.  You pick the date, and I'll post a video of me doing 225 in perfect form 1 time.  I'll have someone stand next to me holding that days newspaper to verify that I am doing it now.  You do the same with 405.   


Here lardass. 50 is a little young for Alzheimer's isn't it?
noworries pwned.........BNM fitting right in with the other Y boarders. 8)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Pecs on November 05, 2009, 05:46:24 PM
did NoWorries ever post a pic?? (a real one)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 05, 2009, 06:15:25 PM


Here lardass. 50 is a little young for Alzheimer's isn't it?

Where does it say standing  Again you are stupid
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:23:31 PM
Where does it say standing  Again you are stupid

You mean other than the title of the thread?  As in "Whats strong for a standing military press?"  Where do you think the term MILITARY press comes from?  Its called that because the original lift in the Olympics was done standing perfectly straight with feet together like the MILITARY position of attention.  One of us is stupid all right.  Its okay though, you're stupid, but at least you're fat.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: tbombz on November 05, 2009, 06:24:45 PM
i think its very possible that onlyme could rep out 225. he used to be a world class powerlifter/strong man. among bodybuilders 225 is a respected weight, but in powerlifting circles its peanuts.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: chaos on November 05, 2009, 06:28:34 PM
i think its very possible that onlyme could rep out 225. he used to be a world class powerlifter/strong man. among bodybuilders 225 is a respected weight, but in powerlifting circles its peanuts.
How much do you do standing military?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: tbombz on November 05, 2009, 06:29:52 PM
How much do you do standing military?
i dont do it standing so i cant be sure, but i can do 225 seated for 10
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:30:08 PM
i think its very possible that onlyme could rep out 225. he used to be a world class powerlifter/strong man. among bodybuilders 225 is a respected weight, but in powerlifting circles its peanuts.

Then why did he just post asking where did he ever say he could do it standing.  As I said earlier, SS and I trained in a hardcore powerlifting gym.  Several of the guys there have records, some of them world records.  Pat Holloway is one with an 815 deadlift.  I saw two of them do more than 225 in a strict military press.  So I guess we disagree that 225 is peanuts.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 05, 2009, 06:30:49 PM
I dont think I could standing strict MILITARY more than 225x2-3

But standing 'press' 6-8 easy enough
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: tbombz on November 05, 2009, 06:33:10 PM
mariusz gets 200kilos

Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:33:18 PM
i dont do it standing so i cant be sure, but i can do 225 seated for 10

There is a world of difference between seated and standing.  SS will tell you, he can do at least 20 seated and, with perfect form, 2 or 3 standing.  If you can do 10 seated, but you don't do standing, you won't be able to do 1.  Peanuts?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: chaos on November 05, 2009, 06:35:13 PM
There is a world of difference between seated and standing.  SS will tell you, he can do at least 20 seated and, with perfect form, 2 or 3 standing.  If you can do 10 seated, but you don't do standing, you won't be able to do 1.  Peanuts?
X2

People don't realize the difference.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: tbombz on November 05, 2009, 06:35:51 PM
There is a world of difference between seated and standing.  SS will tell you, he can do at least 20 seated and, with perfect form, 2 or 3 standing.  If you can do 10 seated, but you don't do standing, you won't be able to do 1.  Peanuts?
ss as in superstar billygram? lol no way he can do 20 reps with 225... dude is cool and all, but he aint strong like that...

and maybe i couldnt rep it, but for world class powerlifters, 225 is a walk in the park.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:36:37 PM
mariusz gets 200kilos



So the strongest man in the world can do a 440lb push press, not military press.  What does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:37:50 PM
ss as in superstar billygram? lol no way he can do 20 reps with 225... dude is cool and all, but he aint strong like that...

and maybe i couldnt rep it, but for world class powerlifters, 225 is a walk in the park.

No genius, SS that posts on here and moderates the Y forum.  Maybe if you keep saying its easy, it will become so.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 05, 2009, 06:38:16 PM
ss as in superstar billygram? lol no way he can do 20 reps with 225... dude is cool and all, but he aint strong like that...

and maybe i couldnt rep it, but for world class powerlifters, 225 is a walk in the park.

What ROM Tbombz with 225? Clavicle to lockout on seated presses?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: tbombz on November 05, 2009, 06:42:26 PM
No genius, SS that posts on here and moderates the Y forum.  Maybe if you keep saying its easy, it will become so.
yes, that is superstarbillygram. i guess he used that name before you came to getbig. no he doesnt lift that much, at least not the last pics i saw of him. 

i dont mean to say its easy for just anybody,  just that it would be easy for a world class powerflifter

heres some random off of utube=


What ROM Tbombz with 225? Clavicle to lockout on seated presses?
yeah. i havent done them in a few months though, i only use dumbells and a smith machine, because the military press at the gym ive been going to is set too far back so i cant get it off the rack when its loaded up heavy. with the smith ill do Behind the neck press with 225 for sets of 12, and ill do 110 dumbell press for sets of 10.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 05, 2009, 06:44:16 PM
If you do that seated for 10 im sure you could do 225lbs x 1 standing. Espec with 110lbers x 10 DB presses
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
yes, that is superstarbillygram. i guess he used that name before you came to getbig. no he doesnt lift that much, at least not the last pics i saw of him. 

i dont mean to say its easy for just anybody,  just that it would be easy for a world class powerflifter

heres some random off of utube=

yeah. i havent done them in a few months though, i only use dumbells and a smith machine, because the military press at the gym ive been going to is set too far back so i cant get it off the rack when its loaded up heavy. with the smith ill do Behind the neck press with 225 for sets of 12, and ill do 110 dumbell press for sets of 10.

Yeah superstarbillygram of the forums.  Not superstar billy graham the wrestler.  And yeah, the SS that posts here can do that.  I've seen him.  We trained together for about 5 years.  Superstar Billy Graham also trained at the same gym with us.  The gym was Get Serious in Phoenix.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: tbombz on November 05, 2009, 06:48:19 PM
Yeah superstarbillygram of the forums.  Not superstar billy graham the wrestler.  And yeah, the SS that posts here can do that.  I've seen him.  We trained together for about 5 years.  Superstar Billy Graham also trained at the same gym with us.  The gym was Get Serious in Phoenix.
las picture i saw of him he was in a sleeveless eating a sandwich in a front room of a house and theeir was a window open facing the street... he was a bigger than average guy, looked like a biker, but it didnt look muscular or powerful.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 05, 2009, 06:48:33 PM
That video is NOT a military press but damn impressive nevertheless!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
If you do that seated for 10 im sure you could do 225lbs x 1 standing. Espec with 110lbers x 10 DB presses

Seated and standing have little correlation in pressing.  Its much easier to press when you can brace against something and push than when your core has to support you.  Try squatting as much as you can leg press.  
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:51:36 PM
las picture i saw of him he was in a sleeveless eating a sandwich in a front room of a house and theeir was a window open facing the street... he was a bigger than average guy, looked like a biker, but it didnt look muscular or powerful.

His weight stays between 255-265 and he is a hell of a lot bigger than an average guy.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 05, 2009, 06:52:27 PM
Seated and standing have little correlation in pressing.  Its much easier to press when you can brace against something and push than when your core has to support you.  Try squatting as much as you can leg press.  

Im basing it on experience. I dont know anyone who can press 110lbers easily and NOT at least have a good stab at 225
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:54:21 PM
Just so you know the difference, you keep posting push press videos.  To give you an example of the difference, the same SS that can do 225 for a few perfect military presses can do at least 275 if he loosens up his form a little and probably 315 on a push press.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
Im basing it on experience. I dont know anyone who can press 110lbers easily and NOT at least have a good stab at 225

I don't either if we're talking about standing.  I would say that anyone that can do 110lbers standing can definitely do 225 standing.  But there is no way in hell he does 110lbers for 10 standing but can only do 225 for 10 seated.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 05, 2009, 07:00:54 PM
I can throw 225 about and I think I would struggle for 110's x 10 seated never mind 110'sx10 standing
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 07:04:12 PM
I can throw 225 about and I think I would struggle for 110's x 10 seated never mind 110'sx10 standing

That was my point.  Dumbells are much harder.  The guy said he can do 225 for 10 seated.  He also said he can do 110s for 10.  There is no way that is true. 
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 05, 2009, 07:07:37 PM
Less ROM with DB's - a few less inches on a shoulder press - particularly the lower portion of teh lift is a BIG difference
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 07:16:21 PM
Less ROM with DB's - a few less inches on a shoulder press - particularly the lower portion of teh lift is a BIG difference

I don't know if you're agreeing or not.  You just said you can do 225 easily, but would struggle with 110s.  Now it sounds like you're saying dumbells are easier because there is less ROM.  Either way, I'm tired of this discussion.  People came on this thread, named "Whats strong for a standing military press?"  and posted how easy it is to do 225.  I said they were full of shit, and the longer the thread goes on, the more apparent it is that the people saying its easy don't even DO military presses. 
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BB on November 05, 2009, 07:22:46 PM
My lord, you man beasts with your big Clean and Presses.

Check out the records for that lift at the link below for years 1972 and earlier:

http://www.lifttilyadie.com/

Note that a steriod era record class lift for the big men was only 120 to 140% of bodyweight. The smaller classes were around 150-160% of bodyweight. That's with Steriods, day in, day out training, etc.....

Also look at the pre-steriod era record lifts.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 05, 2009, 07:29:48 PM
My lord, you man beasts with your big Clean and Presses.

Check out the records for that lift at the link below for years 1972 and earlier:

http://www.lifttilyadie.com/

Note that a steriod era record class lift for the big men was only 120 to 140% of bodyweight. The smaller classes were around 150-160% of bodyweight. That's with Steriods, day in, day out training, etc.....

Also look at the pre-steriod era record lifts.

Careful, you'll have everyone jumping on you and telling you how they can do 315 for 12, or 405 for 1 while on the phone or 615 while wiping up after a three burrito ass explosion.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 05, 2009, 07:37:58 PM
Then why did he just post asking where did he ever say he could do it standing.  As I said earlier, SS and I trained in a hardcore powerlifting gym.  Several of the guys there have records, some of them world records.  Pat Holloway is one with an 815 deadlift.  I saw two of them do more than 225 in a strict military press.  So I guess we disagree that 225 is peanuts.

I agree. Lets also remember not all powerlifters are fat. Many smaller lifters would have to press near 1.5x bodyweight to get 225. So it can't be said it's easy for all of them.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: tbombz on November 05, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
That was my point.  Dumbells are much harder.  The guy said he can do 225 for 10 seated.  He also said he can do 110s for 10.  There is no way that is true. 
i said i could do 110's for 10 seated. not standing.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 05, 2009, 09:03:03 PM
Yeah superstarbillygram of the forums.  Not superstar billy graham the wrestler.  And yeah, the SS that posts here can do that.  I've seen him.  We trained together for about 5 years.  Superstar Billy Graham also trained at the same gym with us.  The gym was Get Serious in Phoenix.

Yea sure he did and sure you did.  We believe you. ::) ::)  Big mouth from a newbie.  Hey here is a news flash because you stand around in a gym where guys are training does not make you strong.  

And I would more believe that Tbombz can lift what he says cause at least he trains.  You got guys like you, SS, Swede who probably don't train at all.  I am sure Swede goes to the gym but thats to look at guys like Johnnynobrain
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: noworries on November 05, 2009, 09:06:22 PM
You mean other than the title of the thread?  As in "Whats strong for a standing military press?"  Where do you think the term MILITARY press comes from?  Its called that because the original lift in the Olympics was done standing perfectly straight with feet together like the MILITARY position of attention.  One of us is stupid all right.  Its okay though, you're stupid, but at least you're fat.

Wow you are one dumb guy.  Are you related to Goodrum.  Like I said where does it say I said standing.  Show it to me twink.  Come on moron I have proved you wrong again cause I not once said standing in fact I think somewhere I said I can't do it standing.  I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.  Now wipe off your tears and be a fucking man.  Own up to your ignorance and be gone.  you are another person who tries to fit in where he doesn't belong.  Where do you pathetic wannabes come from.

By the way post a pic of yourself.  And show one at least you in a gym. 
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: 11venthhour on November 05, 2009, 09:42:52 PM
By the way post a pic of yourself.  And show one at least you in a gym. 

i think you are supossed to add (no homo) to the end of that :-\
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2009, 04:58:59 AM
Tbombz are you calling out SS?  You said he didn't look "muscular or powerful" right? 
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: chaos on November 06, 2009, 05:16:59 AM
Tbombz are you calling out SS?  You said he didn't look "muscular or powerful" right? 
Careful tdongz dad rides with HA!! :o :o
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2009, 05:20:49 AM
Careful tdongz dad rides with HA!! :o :o

HA surely means, Honda Aces, right?  ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 06, 2009, 06:54:24 AM
Wow you are one dumb guy.  Are you related to Goodrum.  Like I said where does it say I said standing.  Show it to me twink.  Come on moron I have proved you wrong again cause I not once said standing in fact I think somewhere I said I can't do it standing.  I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.  Now wipe off your tears and be a fucking man.  Own up to your ignorance and be gone.  you are another person who tries to fit in where he doesn't belong.  Where do you pathetic wannabes come from.

By the way post a pic of yourself.  And show one at least you in a gym. 

I'm gonna try this one more time because apparently your IQ hasn't kept pace with your waist measurement.  You said military press.  Military press is an exercise you do standing.  That is what military press means, a standing press.  Not to mention, this entire thread is about "Whats strong for a standing military press?"  Is that slow and clear enough for you?

As far as SS and I training at the same gym as Superstar Billy Graham, they did a news story on him at our gym, "Get Serious" in Phoenix, and SS and I are in it. 

Now you can go back to the name-calling that you seem to rely on when simple logic leaves your dick in the dirt.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2009, 07:03:12 AM
I'm gonna try this one more time because apparently your IQ hasn't kept pace with your waist measurement.  You said military press.  Military press is an exercise you do standing.  That is what military press means, a standing press.  Not to mention, this entire thread is about "Whats strong for a standing military press?"  Is that slow and clear enough for you?

As far as SS and I training at the same gym as Superstar Billy Graham, they did a news story on him at our gym, "Get Serious" in Phoenix, and SS and I are in it. 

Now you can go back to the name-calling that you seem to rely on when simple logic leaves your dick in the dirt.

In all fairness Nick, Keef doesn't stand much these days, so maybe his definition has changed.   Sitting is the new standing, ya know..... 8)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 06, 2009, 08:02:59 AM
HAHAHAHA Careful BNM or Tbongz will get the Hells angels to come kick our asses.


If he only knew ;)


And yes I am that strong.care to come to Phoenix and find out for yourself?


See BNM I told you most of these guys are tools except for a Handful that post on the Y

Funny how SL-Dubbs use to lift with me and was the PL mod here for a few years and said the same thing you are but hey I guess we're just all stupid kids ::)





Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: CalvinH on November 06, 2009, 08:08:52 AM
Damn it,now I gotta see how much I lift when I do shoulders next week >:(
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: bigmc on November 06, 2009, 08:11:56 AM
Damn it,now I gotta see how much I lift when I do shoulders next week >:(

try your bodyweight




110 lbs  :)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 06, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
try your bodyweight




110 lbs  :)
Did Clavin put some weight on?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 06, 2009, 08:17:12 AM
HAHAHAHA Careful BNM or Tbongz will get the Hells angels to come kick our asses.


If he only knew ;)


And yes I am that strong.care to come to Phoenix and find out for yourself?


See BNM I told you most of these guys are tools except for a Handful that post on the Y

Funny how SL-Dubbs use to lift with me and was the PL mod here for a few years and said the same thing you are but hey I guess we're just all stupid kids ::)







And why do people keep asking me to post a picture?  I lift to get strong, not pretty.  Did you get the new tat?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: bigmc on November 06, 2009, 08:20:02 AM
And why do people keep asking me to post a picture?  I lift to get strong, not pretty.  Did you get the new tat?

because 90 percent of the posters on here are gimmicks
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 06, 2009, 08:27:40 AM
And why do people keep asking me to post a picture?  I lift to get strong, not pretty.  Did you get the new tat?
Dude there's a lot of pole smokers here.Take Tbong for example...... he's admitted to being Bi and is only 17 yrs old, has been to rehab and stole over 10 g's from his parents......... Now he's juicing and thinks he will be a pro BB ::)..Hate to steal Onlyfats quote but poor kid!.

At least noworries aka onlyfat was a big strong guy when he was younger and I think he was an arm wrestling champion, but I cant stand when people live in the past and have the nerve to rip on on others when all they do is make lame excuses about being fat and lazy.`


The HA reference I made about Tbong is because a while back he threaten someone I think me that his dad knew the HA's and was gonna have them come beat me up.hahahaha! I was like sure go head kid send them on over ;)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 06, 2009, 08:29:22 AM
because 90 percent of the posters on here are gimmicks
I already made it clear this is my bro and not a gimmick.

And No BNM I'm going back tonight cause My guy was sick.I'll def send you pics of it.......Your gonna dig it!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: jpm101 on November 06, 2009, 08:29:29 AM
I'm sure if any Olympic lifter reads this stuff he'll get his morning laugh. 225 is pretty every day normal for them, even in the lighter classes. If BB'ers would devote more time to overhead pressing, than 225 would be normal for them. Off a PR or cleaning, either way. If Coleman came out and confessed that all his upper body mass was built from overhead pressing than 90% of BB'ers would drop the bench and do only pressing. And a lot of BB'ers would be pressing 300+ in every workout.

 Best pound per pound presser (my view only) were Paul Anderson, Ken Patera, Marvin Eder, Hepburn and Bill March.Can include a few of the Russian lifters in their Olympic golden days. The original military press was with heels together, back and shoulders ramrod straight starting with no body movement except for the arms & shoulders themselves. This was considered done in a military manner, hence the name military press.

Personal view: I have more respect for a guy who overhead presses 300+ than one who benches 400+.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: CalvinH on November 06, 2009, 08:30:23 AM
try your bodyweight




110 lbs  :)
Did Clavin put some weight on?



 >:(
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 06, 2009, 08:31:08 AM
Dude there's a lot of pole smokers here.Take Tbong for example...... he's admitted to being Bi and is only 17 yrs old, has been to rehab and stole over 10 g's from his parents......... Now he's juicing and thinks he will be a pro BB ::)..Hate to steal Onlyfats quote but poor kid!.

At least noworries aka onlyfat was a big strong guy when he was younger and I think he was an arm wrestling champion, but I cant stand when people live in the past and have the nerve to rip on on others when all they do is make lame excuses about being fat and lazy.`


The HA reference I made about Tbong is because a while back he threaten someone I think me that his dad knew the HA's and was gonna have them come beat me up.hahahaha! I was like sure go head kid send them on over ;)

If he sends anyone from the Phoenix or Cave Creek chapters, let me know.  I haven't hung with them for awhile, we'll have beers:)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 06, 2009, 08:33:09 AM
I'm sure if any Olympic lifter reads this stuff he'll get his morning laugh. 225 is pretty every day normal for them, even in the lighter classes. If BB'ers would devote more time to overhead pressing, than 225 would be normal for them. Off a PR or cleaning, either way. If Coleman came out and confessed that all his upper body mass was built from overhead pressing than 90% of BB'ers would drop the bench and do only pressing. And a lot of BB'ers would be pressing 300+ in every workout.

 Best pound per pound presser (my view only) were Paul Anderson, Ken Patera, Marvin Eder, Hepburn and Bill March.Can include a few of the Russian lifters in their Olympic golden days. The original military press was with heels together, back and shoulders ramrod straight starting with no body movement except for the arms & shoulders themselves. This was considered done in a military manner, hence the name military press.

Personal view: I have more respect for a guy who overhead presses 300+ than one who benches 400+.

Someone posted a link earlier to the world records.  Take a look at them and then talk about all the pretty boys that would be pressing 300+.  Jeez.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 06, 2009, 08:35:05 AM
If he sends anyone from the Phoenix or Cave Creek chapters, let me know.  I haven't hung with them for awhile, we'll have beers:)
;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: bigmc on November 06, 2009, 09:05:43 AM
I already made it clear this is my bro and not a gimmick.

And No BNM I'm going back tonight cause My guy was sick.I'll def send you pics of it.......Your gonna dig it!

like wj harley  ;)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 06, 2009, 09:10:47 AM
like wj harley  ;)
LOL! Naw he's a good friend of mine, been through a lot of crazy shit together.

Ive been telling him for a long time now to check GB out.

He's a super smart guy and is a real life bad ass with a heart of gold......My kids love him, plus he trains them for free and takes them to hooters after wards 8)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2009, 09:51:52 AM
SS, will you be the Harley Davidson to my Marlboro Man?   8)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 06, 2009, 10:29:24 AM
LOL! Naw he's a good friend of mine, been through a lot of crazy shit together.

Ive been telling him for a long time now to check GB out.

He's a super smart guy and is a real life bad ass with a heart of gold......My kids love him, plus he trains them for free and takes them to hooters after wards 8)

Thanks man, but we're still not taking warm showers together :)
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 06, 2009, 11:10:10 AM
I'm sure if any Olympic lifter reads this stuff he'll get his morning laugh. 225 is pretty every day normal for them, even in the lighter classes. If BB'ers would devote more time to overhead pressing, than 225 would be normal for them. Off a PR or cleaning, either way. If Coleman came out and confessed that all his upper body mass was built from overhead pressing than 90% of BB'ers would drop the bench and do only pressing. And a lot of BB'ers would be pressing 300+ in every workout.

 Best pound per pound presser (my view only) were Paul Anderson, Ken Patera, Marvin Eder, Hepburn and Bill March.Can include a few of the Russian lifters in their Olympic golden days. The original military press was with heels together, back and shoulders ramrod straight starting with no body movement except for the arms & shoulders themselves. This was considered done in a military manner, hence the name military press.

Personal view: I have more respect for a guy who overhead presses 300+ than one who benches 400+.

You are way off base. Also, you only mentioned American lifters.  ???
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 06, 2009, 04:31:07 PM
I'm sad, not having heard from my Samoan friend today.  Perchance he's wearing out the ass of some beautiful Hollywood starlet between scenes in his new action picture.  Godspeed my rotund friend, Godspeed!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 06, 2009, 04:46:08 PM
I'm sad, not having heard from my Samoan friend today.  Perchance he's wearing out the ass of some beautiful Hollywood starlet between scenes in his new action picture.  Godspeed my rotund friend, Godspeed!

Maybe he's making his way back to his computer after his noon lunch break?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 06, 2009, 04:49:57 PM
Maybe he's making his way back to his computer after his noon lunch break?

I'll give it another hour then.  I thought he had someone deliver....
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: dov on November 06, 2009, 05:00:05 PM
I'll give it another hour then.  I thought he had someone deliver....
had it catered buffet style.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Hedgehog on November 06, 2009, 08:50:14 PM
Maybe he's making his way back to his computer after his noon lunch break?
Probably went back for another loading at the buffet, not wanna risk getting carb depleted.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: 11venthhour on November 06, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Probably went back for another loading at the buffet, not wanna risk getting carb depleted.

food may have fallen on the keyboard and since his fingers are to thick to reach in the cracks he just ate the whole thing.
sad really :-\
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: wes on November 07, 2009, 03:46:16 AM
i said i could do 110's for 10 seated. not standing.
Calling bigtime bullshit on either of these two claims!!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 07, 2009, 04:51:28 AM
Calling bigtime bullshit on either of these two claims!!

Its not bullshit.  I saw him do it.  And with a Samoan's dick in his mouth at the time.  I'm not sure if the Samoan knew what was happening though, he was on the phone.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 07, 2009, 07:16:14 AM
Done a set of 5 with 233lbs today standing - slight jerk with legs though. This was after 2 sets of 222x5
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 07, 2009, 07:41:18 AM
Calling bigtime bullshit on either of these two claims!!

X2  Tbobmz probably uses the 75"s...which ain't bad

Just for the fuck of it I tried it last night and got 10 with 225 easy
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 07, 2009, 08:07:50 AM


Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 07, 2009, 08:10:37 AM




Cool Ursus... with your long arms, that is even more impressive.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Mars on November 07, 2009, 08:58:01 AM
Goudy is a mfing animal
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 07, 2009, 10:53:58 AM
Done a set of 5 with 233lbs today standing - slight jerk with legs though. This was after 2 sets of 222x5
That was a good lift.  Like you said, a little leg push, but still damn good.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: funk51 on November 07, 2009, 01:20:32 PM
That was a good lift.  Like you said, a little leg push, but still damn good.
press behind the neck is a similar exercise and in my opinion harder, i could do a press with 255 at around 175 lbs but only 225 pbn. when i first started lifting i used to do kneeling presses with 225 but without a samoan dick in my mouth never utilized that weider principle.....
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BigNickMarshall on November 07, 2009, 01:36:19 PM
press behind the neck is a similar exercise and in my opinion harder, i could do a press with 255 at around 175 lbs but only 225 pbn. when i first started lifting i used to do kneeling presses with 225 but without a samoan dick in my mouth never utilized that weider principle.....

If you look at the records in the Olympics, a 255 military at 175lbs would have put you in the top ten or so in the world.  Congrats.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: wes on November 07, 2009, 01:43:18 PM
Looking large Goudy!!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: BB on November 07, 2009, 01:50:35 PM
http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-champions-train-for-press-charles.html - very decent old article on pressing.

And a side shot of Patera, because, well, it's awesome-

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HbaApmpa-Po/SvN199ZHkvI/AAAAAAAAB2o/n6XyEeBHY5w/s400/one.jpg) .

Nice press, Goudy.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 07, 2009, 02:15:22 PM
Very impressive.  Perfect range of motion.  It would of been even better if you cleaned the weight first and didn't use a little leg push.  I will say it again though, very impressive. Most here could use you as an example of what a full range of motion means. 




Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: chaos on November 07, 2009, 07:08:37 PM
Damn it,now I gotta see how much I lift when I do shoulders next week >:(
try your bodyweight




110 lbs  :)
Did Clavin put some weight on?


 >:(
hahahhahaha The best part of this thread!!! ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: CalvinH on November 07, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
hahahhahaha The best part of this thread!!! ;D


I lol'd ;D
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 07, 2009, 07:25:46 PM
Cheers for kind words folks!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: SS on November 07, 2009, 07:34:44 PM
hahahhahaha The best part of this thread!!! ;D
That and when Tbong said i didn't look big and strong and then he claimed he sould rep the 110's on shoulder presses ;D.........LMFAO!
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 14, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
I hit 108.5kg (238.7lbs) today. 5 reps as my heaviest set
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 14, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
I hit 108.5kg (238.7lbs) today. 5 reps as my heaviest set
Damn pretty good right there.
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 14, 2009, 06:23:29 PM
The military press was dropped from the olympics because it was so difficult to judge. Lean back and you're doing a standing incline press. The military press is such a great exercise especially when done from the floor.  How many 500lbs deadlifteres can't clean 225lbs. to do a press?
Title: Re: Whats strong for a standing military press?
Post by: Ursus on November 14, 2009, 07:11:46 PM
The military press was dropped from the olympics because it was so difficult to judge. Lean back and you're doing a standing incline press. The military press is such a great exercise especially when done from the floor.  How many 500lbs deadlifteres can't clean 225lbs. to do a press?

tbh I'd say very few. If you can dead 500 you can prob easily clean 225. Yes The press was a great lift - I like watching old videos on youtube.
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Post by: tbombz on November 14, 2009, 07:46:06 PM
That and when Tbong said i didn't look big and strong and then he claimed he sould rep the 110's on shoulder presses ;D.........LMFAO!
damn, the rent in your head is so fuckin cheap
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Post by: nycbull on November 14, 2009, 08:26:21 PM


whats with the girly shoes Grimek is wearing?
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Post by: BB on November 14, 2009, 08:42:59 PM
Ha, everyone laughs at the gay-ness of that clip:). The shoes are old school Olympic Lifting shoes. Before modern lifting shoes, they basically took a dress shoe or work boot and built up the heel and added a crepe bottom.
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Post by: Palpatine Q on November 14, 2009, 08:49:05 PM
damn, the rent in your head is so fuckin cheap

"I'm in your head" has to be the most hackneyed, shop -worn "insult" of all time.

remembering something someone posted = owned.....please  ::)
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Post by: funk51 on November 15, 2009, 12:10:45 PM


whats with the girly shoes Grimek is wearing?
                  it's only gay if you want it to be, not that there's anything wrong with that. i lost some respect for jcg the first time i viewed this clip.however if you read the book muscletown usa you'll find that all wasn't what it appeared to be among the "manly men of muscletown".
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Post by: Darren Avey on June 11, 2014, 03:07:39 PM
I saw a 2 plate a side for 12 with a pause at the bottom each time today, that impressed me. As I can do a plate a side for 1!!
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Post by: Darren Avey on June 11, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
Hes doing 325 and hardly strict!!!
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Post by: SuperTed on June 11, 2014, 03:14:11 PM
I usually do a strict hang clean and press with 135lb for 10-12 reps. Not sure what I could press for a single though.
I can power clean an impressive amount but wouldn't be able to press it out.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on June 11, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
Press w/hip drive = Push Press

Press with no hip drive = "Military"

Sometimes people confuse the two.
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Post by: Darren Avey on June 11, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
This geezer was using no hip drive which is what impressed all present.