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Kevin tell his supposed cycle in the new MD. What strike me as odd is that he says he did only used GH for four weeks for two shows and insulin for one show in which he placed last.
He does look to use atleast lots of GH to me... This is what he says about anabolics:
2 anadrol 50 aday
100mg aday- Total: 700mg a week
500mg testosterone a week Total: 500mg a week
400mg deca a week Total: 400mg a week
50mg winstrol every other day Total: 200mg a week
50mg nolvadex per day Total: 350mg a week
Total mg:s; 1700mg (with nolva 2059mg but the you the fuck counts this crap anyway?)
andregens: test and anadrol: 1200mg
anabolics: deca and winstrol: 750mg
now way no way... i did 500mg test and 1 g eq + 350mg oral winstrol total each day...could'nt afford gh though...was around 200 pounds at 5.9....tahts more tha him...1850mg...last two weeks a added 50mg anadrol aday to it o thats 350mg more...2200mg
Says hes is a great responder and did not use anything offseason. Well this I believe from late 98ies and on (by his lokks off). Doses are less than people in my gym, and he was runner up...not making sence!
Everyone else his size does GH though, alot of people seem to lie about there doses of GH. Almost all competitors i've knows over 225 or even less does use it but don't want to tell you their exact doses ''because then people will say all their gains come from GH''. Have you known even one pro that have told you their GH doses and seem honest? I sure have'nt.
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you are an idiot and he is a liar .. what a genetic wonder.. took less than me to look 30 times better/bigger ::)
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Damn what a shame. Imagine if he had doubled his dosages he would easily have been mr Olympia. ;D
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Already a 5 page thread on this.
Conclusion was that all pros are liars! Just like lee takes only 2 cc of deca
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yes it's a real shame :) then you have people like bostin loyd who says he does 13 grams a week + tons of other shit... what did lee priest say? like one deca and one test a week? no GH as well... maybe it's better to tell nothing than telling something noone believes anyway...
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you are an idiot and he is a liar .. what a genetic wonder.. took less than me to look 30 times better/bigger ::)
If Sev was doing 200mg of dbol a day and 2grams of test imagine how much Levrone was taking. :o
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If Sev was doing 200mg of dbol a day and 2grams of test imagine how much Levrone was taking. :o
I did 100 mg dbol a day and 1.6 grams total at most .. you inflate stuff like most idiots
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I did 100 mg dbol a day and 1.6 grams total at most .. you inflate stuff like most idiots
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They are better to keep their mouths shut rather than look like total douchebags with lies.
Levrone saturated the entire US escilene black market alone during comp season never mind gear!
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Damn what a shame. Imagine if he had doubled his dosages he would easily have been mr Olympia. ;D
Exactly. When a pro comes clean about using juice. They become somehow honest. When they get in to details what they use ,amount,how they respond etc. they go back to lier mode
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yes it's a real shame :) then you have people like bostin loyd who says he does 13 grams a week + tons of other shit... what did lee priest say? like one deca and one test a week? no GH as well... maybe it's better to tell nothing than telling something noone believes anyway...
they're all full of shit attention whores
13 grams of gear my ass, he's just injecting 100 mls of grape seed oil and 13 mls of actual steroids
13 grams of gear, whats next , 30 ? Cutting your thigh open and stuffing it with trenbolone ? putting a deca feed in your bicep vein ?
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Kevin tell his supposed cycle in the new MD. What strike me as odd is that he says he did only used GH for four weeks for two shows and insulin for one show in which he placed last.
He does look to use atleast lots of GH to me... This is what he says about anabolics:
2 anadrol 50 aday
500mg testosterone a week
400mg deca a week
50mg winstrol every other day
50mg nolvadex per day
Says he was a great responder and did not use anything offseason. Well this I believe. Everyone else his size does GH though, alot of people seem to lie about there doses of GH. Almost all competitors i've knows over 225 or even less does use it but don't want to tell you their exact doses ''because then people will say all their gains come from GH''. Have you known even one pro that have told you their GH doses and seem honest? I sure have'nt.
Its still 2 grams of gear a week and his eating was super clean and lots of protein.
THE BEEF
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i can believe the no gh but the stack listed is bulshit,that was the eod doses or something.
isnt there anyone who personaly knew levrone?
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I have his anadrol at 400 mg a day precontest not 100
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They are better to keep their mouths shut rather than look like total douchebags with lies.
Levrone saturated the entire US escilene black market alone during comp season never mind gear!
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multiply times four for his cruizing dosages
times 8-12 for blasts
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=505615.0;attach=541597;image)
This photo looks like a scan from a enlarged photo that has been on a wall for years
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Kevin tell his supposed cycle in the new MD. What strike me as odd is that he says he did only used GH for four weeks for two shows and insulin for one show in which he placed last.
He does look to use atleast lots of GH to me... This is what he says about anabolics:
2 anadrol 50 aday
500mg testosterone a week
400mg deca a week
50mg winstrol every other day
50mg nolvadex per day
Says he was a great responder and did not use anything offseason. Well this I believe. Everyone else his size does GH though, alot of people seem to lie about there doses of GH. Almost all competitors i've knows over 225 or even less does use it but don't want to tell you their exact doses ''because then people will say all their gains come from GH''. Have you known even one pro that have told you their GH doses and seem honest? I sure have'nt.
so he bench 500 for 5 reps @225 while dieting with only that...
the "great responder genetic" is a mess. It's the biggest lie of the 2000'.
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What makes him genetically gifted along with his physical structure in the genetic constitution to handle the amount of drugs.
Most of us would be very sick yet these individuals arent. Thats what makes them apart. For how long they can again is a gamble.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=505615.0;attach=541597;image)
This photo looks like a scan from a enlarged photo that has been on a wall for years
it's a scan from a normal photo was posted at my dad's tennis club for years while I was living in US. Very well observed.
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What makes him genetically gifted along with his physical structure in the genetic constitution to handle the amount of drugs.
Most of us would be very sick yet these individuals arent. Thats what makes them apart. For how long they can again is a gamble.
True .. at 2 grams a week I can stand it for 1 week or 2 at most .. being on anabolics at high doses for a long time is incredible to me
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photoshop
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I bet that was Kevin's cycle, but it was every other day, not weekly
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look nasty in that second shot, that was a good look.
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I bet that was Kevin's cycle, but it was every other day hour, not weekly
ftfy ;D
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True .. at 2 grams a week I can stand it for 1 week or 2 at most .. being on anabolics at high doses for a long time is incredible to me
Always favour the anabolic to androgenic ratio
2:1
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1. Kevin was big into humatrope.
2.this was the 90's... all the gear he used was pharm grade.
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1. Kevin was big into humatrope.
2.this was the 90's... all the gear he used was pharm grade.
does not change the gnormous quantities he used
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1. Kevin was big into humatrope.
2.this was the 90's... all the gear he used was pharm grade.
this
i am somewhat curious about what humatrope doses it takes to get there...what did gh15 say was the norm in the 90ies? around 15-20ius right? i know an amatuer that made huge gains in a short time he was tall, around 6.5/200cm and 140kg/310lbs...he sold a shitload of drugs, pharma grade and cheap too, dbol for 1,5kr/20 cents...he did pharmgrade genotropin but only got rumours on doses there as well...
and kevin ''forgets'' to mention his whole esiclene use as well...was'nt it him and flex who bought up like the whole market that was left in the 90ies? i know nasser was huge into that as well...he saidd himself he did 100 back shots of it and was bleeding in the whole room...he went into huge oil use as well...funny when people call him nassoil...don't really know what to believe about his details though...i did not know him and he was known for bullshitting people...ed van amsterdam i did know...he said he did 2 grams of test in the offseason and 1 gram of deca and 100mg dbol, thats alot...his back had a ton of acne as well... as much GH as possible but was not hugely into slin...he did strike me as an honest guy and was very fun to be around...PIP
either bodybuilders undermine or overexagerate their doses, also ''forgets'' synthol/esiclene overall..lots of lying
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getbig is the first to see the light but there is still some idiots here who are FUCKEN NAIVE, so for the hundreth time, here is what the pros use.
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLES AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.
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this
i am somewhat curious about what humatrope doses it takes to get there...what did gh15 say was the norm in the 90ies? around 15-20ius right? i know an amatuer that made huge gains in a short time he was tall, around 6.5/200cm and 140kg/310lbs...he sold a shitload of drugs, pharma grade and cheap too, dbol for 1,5kr/20 cents...he did pharmgrade genotropin but only got rumours on doses there as well...
and kevin ''forgets'' to mention his whole esiclene use as well...was'nt it him and flex who bought up like the whole market that was left in the 90ies? i know nasser was huge into that as well...he saidd himself he did 100 back shots of it and was bleeding in the whole room...he went into huge oil use as well...funny when people call him nassoil...don't really know what to believe about his details though...i did not know him and he was known for bullshitting people...ed van amsterdam i did know...he said he did 2 grams of test in the offseason and 1 gram of deca and 100mg dbol, thats alot...his back had a ton of acne as well... as much GH as possible but was not hugely into slin...he did strike me as an honest guy and was very fun to be around...PIP
either bodybuilders undermine or overexagerate their doses, also ''forgets'' synthol/esiclene overall..lots of lying
I just don't think kevin was some huge abuser. your talking a black guy with elite genetics, world class genetics who still looks very healthy for his age... who was never that big in the first place. Before anyone opens their mouth the heaviest kevin ever competed at was 245 at 5'9? Now you got butter balls with veins like Jason huh walking around at 270 pounds at 5'6 lol.
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Kevin tell his supposed cycle in the new MD. What strike me as odd is that he says he did only used GH for four weeks for two shows and insulin for one show in which he placed last.
He does look to use atleast lots of GH to me... This is what he says about anabolics:
2 anadrol 50 aday
500mg testosterone a week
400mg deca a week
50mg winstrol every other day
50mg nolvadex per day
Says he was a great responder and did not use anything offseason. Well this I believe. Everyone else his size does GH though, alot of people seem to lie about there doses of GH. Almost all competitors i've knows over 225 or even less does use it but don't want to tell you their exact doses ''because then people will say all their gains come from GH''. Have you known even one pro that have told you their GH doses and seem honest? I sure have'nt.
I BELIEVE HIM IF IT'S ALL HE TAKES PER ONE (1) DAY.
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:D ;D
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I just don't think kevin was some huge abuser. your talking a black guy with elite genetics, world class genetics who still looks very healthy for his age... who was never that big in the first place. Before anyone opens their mouth the heaviest kevin ever competed at was 245 at 5'9? Now you got butter balls with veins like Jason huh walking around at 270 pounds at 5'6 lol.
wtf, this coming from you is a huge shocker, wow. 245 at 5.9 is fucken Humongus and we are talking quality muscle, not sloppy soft muscle like huh, does huh have bigger arms? no, does he have bigger shoulders, back? NO, Levrone is a fucken beast, lmao at you thinking he does not abuse.
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE, you disagree?
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Damn what a shame. Imagine if he had doubled his dosages he would easily have been mr Olympia. ;D
This is the thing, levrone kept coming up short against yates year in year out and it's obvious the guy was ultra competitive as is anyone who reaches that sort of elite standard in anything. But yet he thought nah i'm not gonna push past 2 grams a week and see if i can become the best? too risky for my health
I personally think all of these guys push the drugs as far as they can until sides make them back off. Everything about bbing is obsessive and excessive, yet when it comes to drugs they just did it in moderation?
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Sev knows how to lift.
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This is the thing, levrone kept coming up short against yates year in year out and it's obvious the guy was ultra competitive as is anyone who reaches that sort of elite standard in anything. But yet he thought nah i'm not gonna push past 2 grams a week and see if i can become the best? too risky for my health
I personally think all of these guys push the drugs as far as they can until sides make them back off.[/u] Everything about bbing is obsessive and excessive, yet when it comes to drugs they just did it in moderation?
jesus, finally we have a winner.
fuck, wake the fuck up people.
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I just don't think kevin was some huge abuser. your talking a black guy with elite genetics, world class genetics who still looks very healthy for his age... who was never that big in the first place. Before anyone opens their mouth the heaviest kevin ever competed at was 245 at 5'9? Now you got butter balls with veins like Jason huh walking around at 270 pounds at 5'6 lol.
Levrone competed in the 250s to possible low 260s.
Jason Huh is 5'10...and 260-270, but lacks separation, just a big lump of muscle.
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I dont care he can eat every steroid in the world. Same result has he beat Dorian or Ronnie?
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I personally think all of these guys push the drugs as far as they can until sides make them back off.
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This is the thing, levrone kept coming up short against yates year in year out and it's obvious the guy was ultra competitive as is anyone who reaches that sort of elite standard in anything. But yet he thought nah i'm not gonna push past 2 grams a week and see if i can become the best? too risky for my health
Yup, only to do it years later after his so called actor and other bullshits career"s" bombed -well it never took off in the first place-. What's his main strategy of survival nowadays? Juice to get enough confidence to "train" gullible people in a new gym venture sponsored by someone else's money? Does he have kids?
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Levrone competed in the 250s to possible low 260s.
Jason Huh is 5'10...and 260-270, but lacks separation, just a big lump of muscle.
exactly, they are the same height and not to mention if huh had the quality hardness of Leverone he would be smaller too, Levrone equals more net muscles then huh, Flinstone is out to lunch with this one and DOUBLE out to lunch in believing Levrone did not MEGADOSE, lmao
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wtf, this coming from you is a huge shocker, wow. 245 at 5.9 is fucken Humongus and we are talking quality muscle, not sloppy soft muscle like huh, does huh have bigger arms? no, does he have bigger shoulders, back? NO, Levrone is a fucken beast, lmao at you thinking he does not abuse.
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE, you disagree?
What is your point? No I don't think one of the most genetically gifted guys of all time required 10 grams of anabolics to look like he did.
if kevin said he took 2-3 grams of anabolics, and 8 iu of humatrope per day you wouldn't believe It?
3 grams of human grade gear is not a hefty cycle? please
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What is your point? No I don't think one of the most genetically gifted guys of all time required 10 grams of anabolics to look like he did.
if kevin said he took 2-3 grams of anabolics, and 8 iu of humatrope per day you wouldn't believe It?
3 grams of human grade gear is not a hefty cycle? please
you are an idiot, sorry no disrespect but you are acting like one.
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I did 100 mg dbol a day and 1.6 grams total at most .. you inflate stuff like most idiots
I can find your quotes that said 200mg of dbol.
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exactly, they are the same height and not to mention if huh had the quality hardness of Leverone he would be smaller too, Levrone equals more net muscles then huh, Flinstone is out to lunch with this one and DOUBLE out to lunch in believing Levrone did not MEGADOSE, lmao
I am very ignorant to the drug game, but for Levrone to come in at 240s-250s, hard and separated, in 3 months time, when he was 170-200 pounds before that. Wouldnt that mean that that he had to ramp it up?
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I am very ignorant to the drug game, but for Levrone to come in at 240s-250s, hard and separated, in 3 months time, when he was 170-200 pounds before that. Wouldnt that mean that that he had to ramp it up?
beyond belief
bro we are talking enormous, enormous amounts, but but but flinstone says only 3 grams, lmfao.
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What makes him genetically gifted along with his physical structure in the genetic constitution to handle the amount of drugs.
Most of us would be very sick yet these individuals arent.Thats what makes them apart. For how long they can again is a gamble.
We have no idea of this either
Only they or their doctors know for sure
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exactly, they are the same height and not to mention if huh had the quality hardness of Leverone he would be smaller too, Levrone equals more net muscles then huh, Flinstone is out to lunch with this one and DOUBLE out to lunch in believing Levrone did not MEGADOSE, lmao
Let me also correct myself. There were two Levrones later on, the small one, which about 235-245, and the big one, which was 249-250s (possible low 260s).
People didn't know which one would show up, and when his legs were down, of course his weight was down.
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We have no idea of this either
Only they or their doctors know for sure
what he meant was they can handle large amounts and it is true, some can not handle those numbers, however tolerance is built throughout the years
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He took steroids wow.
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I did 100 mg dbol a day and 1.6 grams total at most .. you inflate stuff like most idiots
Oh really?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=289549.0
Many made fun of me in the past while I posted pics clean saying that I was on 1 gram of test bla blah
well...I'm on 150-200 mg dbol a day and will add omnadren , 1 amp everyother day
so
how do you think I'll look in 2 months ?
I'm 200 lbs after week one
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Let me also correct myself. There were two Levrones later on, the small one, which about 235-245, and the big one, which was 249-250s (possible low 260s).
People didn't know which one would show up, and when his legs were down, of course his weight was down.
but both versions would be the same size in off-season, the big version kept the water in the muscle while on stage and the lower weight version drained himself completely
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I just don't think kevin was some huge abuser. your talking a black guy with elite genetics,world class genetics who still looks very healthy for his age... who was never that big in the first place. Before anyone opens their mouth the heaviest kevin ever competed at was 245 at 5'9? Now you got butter balls with veins like Jason huh walking around at 270 pounds at 5'6 lol.
First of all Jason huh is 5'9
"Levroneflintstone" oh brother
Second "elite genetics" haha. Flex had better genetics and look how much he took... There's your answer
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Did flex ever post his cycles?
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what he meant was they can handle large amounts and it is true, some can not handle those numbers, however tolerance is built throughout the years
Yes I agree, just responding to the "these individuals aren't sick" part which we really have no clue
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First of all Jason huh is 5'9
"Levroneflintstone" oh brother
Second "elite genetics" haha. Flex had better genetics and look how much he took... There's your answer
this is a result of his age and being gullible because of his age, not all young people are naive but flinstone is and when he is older and hangs out with these mass monsters at that level he will realize how stupid he sounded, almost like believing in Santa
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Oh really?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=289549.0
Boom lol
Sev just got KTFO ;D
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Did flex ever post his cycles?
Never seen it but if he did everyone will be saying "all drugs" ;D
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you are an idiot, sorry no disrespect but you are acting like one.
Oh please, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO"S BEING IGNORANT. Do you think its possible to compare some nobody Canadian pro who tells you he takes two shots of prop and tren per day with a guy with elite genetics like kevin? Ben Johnson the world class sprinter would take dbol only cycles 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off and according to his trainer would get incredible incredible gains..on doses that most bodybuilders would laugh at.
I have done a lot of research on kevin from his powerlifting background, old pics, etc. He was highly white fiber dominate and explosive by nature. a naturally ripped kid....geared and hardwired for sport. The fact that he always had a lower appetite from the moment he took up bodybuilding shows he has increased leptin sensitivity in the brain, a characteristic only guys with elite genetics usually possess. which means their appetite tends to shut off even at a relatively low body-fat.....
I've been around elite athletes all my life, you have not. I lifted weights and juiced right beside guys in high school who now play in the nfl. the strongest fastest human beings on the planet... and I've seen some shit that would play your mind. Guys gaining 35 pounds on 2c's of deca per week, guys repping 495 on flat bench clean as a whistle who wouldn't know the difference between a Tylenol and dianabol. Given kevin's natural strength, sprinting ability point to the fact tht he was largely white fiber dominate and guys with a high ratio of fast twitch muscle fibers are very sensitive to the anabolic effects of androgens. I have to tell you OTH m very surprised Im having this converstaion with a guy who benched 500 pounds raw, that takes elite genetics and Im sure you noticed you progressed quicker than most of your training partners despite running the same compounds probably due to the fact that you were largely white fiber dominate. Rest my case.
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Oh please, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO"S BEING IGNORANT. Do you think its possible to compare some nobody Canadian pro who tells you he takes two shots of prop and tren per day with a guy with elite genetics like kevin? Ben Johnson the world class sprinter would take dbol only cycles 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off and according to his trainer would get incredible incredible gains..on doses that most bodybuilders would laugh at.
I have done a lot of research on kevin from his powerlifting background, old pics, etc. He was highly white fiber dominate and explosive by nature. a naturally ripped kid....geared and hardwired for sport. The fact that he always had a lower appetite from the moment he took up bodybuilding shows he has increased leptin sensitivity in the brain, a characteristic only guys with elite genetics usually possess. which means their appetite tends to shut off even at a relatively low body-fat.....
I've been around elite athletes all my life, you have not. I lifted weights and juiced right beside guys in high school who now play in the nfl. the strongest fastest human beings on the planet... and I've seen some shit that would play your mind. Guys gaining 35 pounds on 2c's of deca per week, guys repping 495 on flat bench clean as a whistle who wouldn't know the difference between a Tylenol and dianabol. Given kevin's natural strength, sprinting ability point to the fact tht he was largely white fiber dominate and guys with a high ratio of fast twitch muscle fibers are very sensitive to the anabolic effects of androgens. I have to tell you OTH m very surprised Im having this converstaion with a guy who benched 500 pounds raw, that takes elite genetics and Im sure you noticed you progressed quicker than most of your training partners despite running the same compounds probably due to the fact that you were largely white fiber dominate. Rest my case.
that is not the reason to believe someone took a lot of gear, think about what you are saying and think how naive you are being, these are the best in the world out of 7 billion people, 3 grams of pharm grade is what genetic freaks were taking in the 70`s and look what they mustered, stop believing in this mumbo jumbo genetic fairy tail story up, the human body has genetic dna limitations
why would he stop at 3, why, why, why, when he can do 4, 5, 6 and get better results, these guys would die for bodybuilding, the only thing stopping them from upping the dose is the unbearable jaw quenching side effects that have you an inch from your death bed at all times, if you do not want to believe this the YOU DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BODYBUILDING
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Oh please, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO"S BEING IGNORANT. Do you think its possible to compare some nobody Canadian pro who tells you he takes two shots of prop and tren per day with a guy with elite genetics like kevin? Ben Johnson the world class sprinter would take dbol only cycles 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off and according to his trainer would get incredible incredible gains..on doses that most bodybuilders would laugh at.
I have done a lot of research on kevin from his powerlifting background, old pics, etc. He was highly white fiber dominate and explosive by nature. a naturally ripped kid....geared and hardwired for sport. The fact that he always had a lower appetite from the moment he took up bodybuilding shows he has increased leptin sensitivity in the brain, a characteristic only guys with elite genetics usually possess. which means their appetite tends to shut off even at a relatively low body-fat.....
I've been around elite athletes all my life, you have not. I lifted weights and juiced right beside guys in high school who now play in the nfl. the strongest fastest human beings on the planet... and I've seen some shit that would play your mind. Guys gaining 35 pounds on 2c's of deca per week, guys repping 495 on flat bench clean as a whistle who wouldn't know the difference between a Tylenol and dianabol. Given kevin's natural strength, sprinting ability point to the fact tht he was largely white fiber dominate and guys with a high ratio of fast twitch muscle fibers are very sensitive to the anabolic effects of androgens. I have to tell you OTH m very surprised Im having this converstaion with a guy who benched 500 pounds raw, that takes elite genetics and Im sure you noticed you progressed quicker than most of your training partners despite running the same compounds probably due to the fact that you were largely white fiber dominate. Rest my case.
U are comparing "real" elite athletes to bbers, no disrespect to bbers
Elite athletes are already gifted to began with and regardless still better than most of the population even without "gear" guys like jeter, bonds , trout would still be elite without the juice . Difference is pro athletes use gear as a "supplement"
Bbers and gear go hand in hand, the sample size is too small, take the gear out of the bber and there's no pro, no Coleman, Yates, levrone, etc.. Gear makes the bber!
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He did not take steroids.
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Did flex ever post his cycles?
Ninjas forbade him to do so...said next time he won't be so lucky.
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that is not the reason to believe someone took a lot of gear, think about what you are saying and think how naive you are being, these are the best in the world out of 7 billion people, 3 grams of pharm grade is what genetic freaks were taking in the 70`s and look what they mustered, stop believing in this mumbo jumbo genetic fairy tail story up, the human body has genetic dna limitations
why would he stop at 3, why, why, why, when he can do 4, 5, 6 and get better results, these guys would die for bodybuilding, the only thing stopping them from upping the dose is the unbearable jaw quenching side effects that have you an inch from your death bed at all times, if you do not want to believe this the YOU DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BODYBUILDING
Fair enough. you do realize the numbers have climbed though, and are going to keep climbing. in 10 years, the bold will be what it takes to look like an elite gym rat. You and I both know if you were preaching this shit 5 years you would get laughed off this board, even if you were on the money all along.
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U are comparing "real" elite athletes to bbers, no disrespect to bbers
Elite athletes are already gifted to began with and regardless still better than most of the population even without "gear" guys like jeter, bonds , trout would still be elite without the juice . Difference is pro athletes use gear as a "supplement"
Bbers and gear go hand in hand, the sample size is too small, take the gear out of the bber and there's no pro, no Coleman, Yates, levrone, etc.. Gear makes the bber!
the problem is anyone can gain massive amounts from point a to b as flintstone has done, which probably won`t even be good enough to win a regional. And that is his mentality that the rate can be kept up but from b to c is whole new game, a whole new level and that only gets you a pro card, then there is c to d which is Olympia level by this time to progress further takes everything under the sun.
These men are freaks of nature to sustain that much ripped muscle hanging off the bone in aesthetic formation is staggering, flinstone is not off a bit, but fucken off the chart all together, he is not only wrong marginally but by a country mile and then some.
the funny thing is he thinks he has size, lmao wait until he diets down to 5% and realizes how much he is left with while he will be back to tooth pick status and only then he will realize how much hormones it really takes to reach shredded mass at this level, reality check.
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That's the thing, with all his "elite genetics" and "white muscle fibres" etc he still kept losing year in year out. But he didn't think of upping the dose from 2ml of test and 2 ml of decca and a handful of orals per week?
I spose Dorian's BS cycles logically could be more believed because at least he kept winning, he could say i never needed to take any more because no one could beat me anyway. But they all talk BS, it's clear to see that these guys at the top level do absolute everything to the extreme, drugs included.
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Fair enough. you do realize the numbers have climbed though, and are going to keep climbing. in 10 years, the bold will be what it takes to look like an elite gym rat. You and I both know if you were preaching this shit 5 years you would get laughed off this board, even if you were on the money all along.
ignore my last post since I wrote it before reading this post and you are coming to your senses.
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That's the thing, with all his "elite genetics" and "white muscle fibres" etc he still kept losing year in year out. But he didn't think of upping the dose from 2ml of test and 2 ml of decca and a handful of orals per week?
I spose Dorian's BS cycles logically could be more believed because at least he kept winning, he could say i never needed to take any more because no one could beat me anyway. But they all talk BS, it's clear to see that these guys at the top level do absolute everything to the extreme, drugs included.
excellent point, man you are on the ball bro. YES every time they lose they up the dose, count on that.
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They are better to keep their mouths shut rather than look like total douchebags with lies.
Levrone saturated the entire US escilene black market alone during comp season never mind gear!
saturated? or bought out?
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saturated? or bought out?
bought out
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I remember Kevin saying how brutal the anxiety got when he was prepping, that he would get suicidal and depressed and shit.
Does this not scream massive Trenbolone use to anyone else ???
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saturated? or bought out?
Bought out...hence why Flex had said, "Oh, Kevin you said you hear me knocking? I don't knock on doors, I blow them over!"
That's because Flex was "knocking" on Kev's door trying to get some esiclene, and Kev didn't want to give it up (Kev and Flex were apparently it's biggest users.).
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He did not take steroids.
hahahahahahahahaha.
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Bought out...hence why Flex had said, "Oh, Kevin you said you hear me knocking? I don't knock on doors, I blow them over!"
That's because Flex was "knocking" on Kev's door trying to get some esiclene, and Kev didn't want to give it up (Kev and Flex were apparently it's biggest users.).
word was he even asked the supplier if FLEX has grabbed any yet (at the time) and the supplier said NO then Levrone would buy it out so that FLEX would not get any.
Could be just a silly rumor but that was going around.
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I just don't think kevin was some huge abuser. your talking a black guy with elite genetics, world class genetics who still looks very healthy for his age... who was never that big in the first place. Before anyone opens their mouth the heaviest kevin ever competed at was 245 at 5'9? Now you got butter balls with veins like Jason huh walking around at 270 pounds at 5'6 lol.
Agree. Some guy's just respond insanely to gear. Kevin is one of them. I dont mean he took 500mgs a week or some bs but like 2.5g and gh, sure. Honestly, and just my opinion, if you have to take 5g of gear you dont have the genetics to be a pro. But guy's just keep taking more and you get the terrible build's that make up amateur and pro bb.
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Agree. Some guy's just respond insanely to gear. Kevin is one of them. I dont mean he took 500mgs a week or some bs but like 2.5g and gh, sure. Honestly, and just my opinion, if you have to take 5g of gear you dont have the genetics to be a pro. But guy's just keep taking more and you get the terrible build's that make up amateur and pro bb.
you do not know what you are talking about at all.
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That's the thing, with all his "elite genetics" and "white muscle fibres" etc he still kept losing year in year out. But he didn't think of upping the dose from 2ml of test and 2 ml of decca and a handful of orals per week?
I spose Dorian's BS cycles logically could be more believed because at least he kept winning, he could say i never needed to take any more because no one could beat me anyway. But they all talk BS, it's clear to see that these guys at the top level do absolute everything to the extreme, drugs included.
Because his muscles shape and structure wasnt as good as Dorian's and that's it. He took 4-5 month's and would blow the fuck up. Pretty elite genetics. Before Dorian ruined it, his structure was phenominal. The year he won the British Championship's, he was amazing. Tiny waist
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Because his muscles shape and structure wasnt as good as Dorian's and that's it. He took 4-5 month's and would blow the fuck up. Pretty elite genetics. Before Dorian ruined it, his structure was phenominal. The year he won the British Championship's, he was amazing. Tiny waist
kevin had better shape and structure was even, Dorian had more mass and was transparent and grainy skin and leaner.
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multiply times four for his cruizing dosages
times 8-12 for blasts
He didn't cruise. Contest prep 4x is about right.
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you do not know what you are talking about at all.
Maybe. Def dont claim to be an expert, just my 2 cents.
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Because his muscles shape and structure wasnt as good as Dorian's and that's it. He took 4-5 month's and would blow the fuck up. Pretty elite genetics. Before Dorian ruined it, his structure was phenominal. The year he won the British Championship's, he was amazing. Tiny waist
this is very true, Dorian didn't have the 40"+ waist until late in his career, his original structure was incredible.
In a world with no slin/gh he would have had amazing lines up until he retired.
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kevin had better shape and structure was even, Dorian had more mass and was transparent and grainy skin and leaner.
Kev's back wasnt up to par with the front and his leg's peaked in '92. I guess I should point out I only really liked Yates look up until '93. Waist threw everything off after that and thighs lacked definition. Yeah he was really tight in '95, was it? But had bicep tear so in my eye's inferior to the '93 version
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Hes a lying negul
Shocker....
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I remember Kevin saying how brutal the anxiety got when he was prepping, that he would get suicidal and depressed and shit.
Does this not scream massive Trenbolone use to anyone else ???
Explains why he's also an alcoholic and plays with toy soldiers locked up in his room
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Oh really?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=289549.0
owned like a bitch
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Ninjas forbade him to do so...said next time he won't be so lucky.
Flex did say in an old issue of MD, interviewed by Romano, that he took somewhere in the ballpark of 800mg/wk of winstrol. yes, 800, an odd number for that drug. But, this is what I recall.
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Flex did say in an old issue of MD, interviewed by Romano, that he took somewhere in the ballpark of 800mg/wk of winstrol. yes, 800, an odd number for that drug. But, this is what I recall.
entirely possible, given that flex is an idiot when it comes to drugs.. he probably shot 400mg twice a week, or 800mg once a week.
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How many grams of creatine a week as needed to get a physique like Kevin?
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some people never fail to amaze me... kevin levrone was a fucking alcoholic for most of career, so he would slam bottles of jacky D's every day but be conservative with his gear use?
as onetime has mentioned, until youve dieted right down to scratch you have no idea what it takes
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some people never fail to amaze me... kevin levrone was a fucking alcoholic for most of career, so he would slam bottles of jacky D's every day but be conservative with his gear use?
as onetime has mentioned, until youve dieted right down to scratch you have no idea what it takes
booooooooooooom
until you are shredded, then and ONLY then you will realize what it takes to be 250 with striations at under 5foot 10,
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Oh really?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=289549.0
you are such an idiot .. that post is from a cycle I started but never finished. I experimented with 150 - 200 a day but couldn't handle it
I am one of the most honest people here so you are making yourself looking like a total douche
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you are such an idiot .. that post is from a cycle I started but never finished. I experimented with 150 - 200 a day but couldn't handle it
I am one of the most honest people here so you are making yourself looking like a total douche
You said in this thread you used 100mg of dbol AT MOST. I said you have used 200mg of dbol because i remember you saying so but now you say I am inflating things. I was NOT inflating the 200mg of dbol claim. I found your quote from years ago where you admitted to using 200mg of dbol. You lied and continue to play stupid and lie. I found your quote were you said you used 200mg of dbol. You lied and got caught for all to see. Deal with it.
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How many grams of creatine a week as needed to get a physique like Kevin?
70,ooo
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some people never fail to amaze me... kevin levrone was a fucking alcoholic for most of career, so he would slam bottles of jacky D's every day but be conservative with his gear use?
as onetime has mentioned, until youve dieted right down to scratch you have no idea what it takes
can you substantiate this claim? Hard to believe "a whole bottle" theory considering his obvious success in growing muscle and being conditioned.
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can you substantiate this claim? Hard to believe "a whole bottle" theory considering his obvious success in growing muscle and being conditioned.
you can absolutely be a functioning alcoholic and be a bodybuilder.
there was a time (many, many years ago) when i'd put away a liter of vodka before 2pm, and another liter up till bedtime.... and that's back when I was at my biggest & heaviest (also when I was running 7g's of assorted AAS/wk).
eventually I landed in the hospital with pancreatitis. never crashed my car or was stumbling or slurring.. nobody knew. never missed work/clients/ect...
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Already a 5 page thread on this.
Conclusion was that all pros are liars! Just like lee takes only 2 cc of deca
Haha yes, and sometimes he would forget to take that :D
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i wonder if kevin downed much hard likor during pre contest.
the calories in that are sure adding uplol
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Because his muscles shape and structure wasnt as good as Dorian's and that's it. He took 4-5 month's and would blow the fuck up. Pretty elite genetics. Before Dorian ruined it, his structure was phenominal. The year he won the British Championship's, he was amazing. Tiny waist
Are you serious? Dorian was built like a tank. A ripped to shreds tank, but a tank. Kevin had one of the most aesthetic physiques of all time.
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Already a 5 page thread on this.
Conclusion was that all pros are liars! Just like lee takes only 2 cc of deca
yes 5 pages! 8)
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Agree. Some guy's just respond insanely to gear. Kevin is one of them. I dont mean he took 500mgs a week or some bs but like 2.5g and gh, sure. Honestly, and just my opinion, if you have to take 5g of gear you dont have the genetics to be a pro. But guy's just keep taking more and you get the terrible build's that make up amateur and pro bb.
Nope. A black guy who probably had the genetics to be a world class sprinter and the deepest muscle bellies ever, couldn't carry 240 pounds of muscle on 3 grams of pharm grade anabolics per week and 10iu gh per day. ::)
I'd be very curious to know what pros OTH knows lol, probably some nobody Canadian pro with bottom of the barrel genetics and a gut wider than my shoulders.
OTH is OUT TO LUNCH saying genetics don't matter. I could own stock in fuckign bayer, take 10 times the amount he did and not come anywhere close, and neither will anyone here on this board, or anyone in the NPC or any gym in the world. We are talking about the man with probably the best body of all time. Kevin was the Cream of the crop...most pros don't have great genetics.
a guy with the best muscle building genetics of all time class genetics needs 7 grams of pharm gear lmao, gtfo you guys.
Galeniko didn't you speak to dennis wolfe? he told you it was 15iu pharm grade gh per day 1.5 grams of test and a gram of two of exotics correct?
craig titus would run 5 grams of test, all pharm grade...to compete at a whopping 230. I guess dennis newman competing at 249 at 4 years younger than titus had to of been on at least 7 grams of test right? lol..wake up people
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can you substantiate this claim? Hard to believe "a whole bottle" theory considering his obvious success in growing muscle and being conditioned.
cant back this up with hard facts, but its a rumour thats been hanging around him since the 90's., been repeated in many circles etc etc...
when you consider the majority of 90's pros were addicted to opiates( nubain ) and ghb, even cocaine and meth in some cases, a little drink problem doesnt sound so bad..
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Nope. A black guy who probably had the genetics to be a world class sprinter and the deepest muscle bellies ever, couldn't carry 240 pounds of muscle on 3 grams of pharm grade anabolics per week and 10iu gh per day. ::)
I'd be very curious to know what pros OTH knows lol, probably some nobody Canadian pro with bottom of the barrel genetics and a gut wider than my shoulders.
OTH is OUT TO LUNCH saying genetics don't matter. I could own stock in fuckign bayer, take 10 times the amount he did and not come anywhere close, and neither will anyone here on this board, or anyone in the NPC or any gym in the world. We are talking about the man with probably the best body of all time. Kevin was the Cream of the crop...most pros don't have great genetics.
a guy with the best muscle building genetics of all time class genetics needs 7 grams of pharm gear lmao, gtfo you guys.
Galeniko didn't you speak to dennis wolfe? he told you it was 15iu pharm grade gh per day 1.5 grams of test and a gram of two of exotics correct?
craig titus would run 5 grams of test, all pharm grade...to compete at a whopping 230. I guess dennis newman competing at 249 at 4 years younger than titus had to of been on at least 7 grams of test right? lol..wake up people
you are a fucken delusional clown, wake up? you are the only one sleeping and out dated BIGTIME that is why you will not get shredded because you will turn into a bean pole, a skinny, skinny nothing, trust me diet ONETIME, ONETIME ONLY and do it on 3 grams and you will come to the conclusion that shit 3 grams is fuck all.
It is simply not enough to sustain 240 striated not even close. You are making a fucken fool out of yourself here.
Who do I know?, your jaw would drop if I tell you, there is no where else to go but me, I am at the very top, I KNOW EXACTLY EVERYTHING, NOT SOME THINGS, I KNOW IT ALL, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR ME TO LEARN, NOTHING
ya because dennis wolf is going to tell him the truth, YA OK BRO GET FUCKEN REAL, I love gal but that is fucken outrageous to believe that.
I do not care either way if you are choosing to be a dumb naive kid, that is your choice, I am not writing this to change your mind, I am doing so for the sake of others reading this so they do not listen to your retarded assumptions on your hero.
Do genetics play a role?, yes but they all have insane freaky genetics and if levrone has better genetics then the other Olympian, it would be marginal not out of this world where he can shoot lighting.
SWEAR TO GOD TO EVERYONE HERE, I HAD A TOP 5 OLYMPIA CONTENDER STAY AT MY HOUSE FOR THE WEEKEND A FEW YEARS BACK AND HE SPOKE ON EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE
...and yes he says there is a few pros that would never discuss anything and LEVERONE was one of them, he would not talk about it to anyone, PERIOD , so in reality nobody knows in detail what he took but himself.
If flinstone wants to believe he can bring a knife to a gun fight because he thinks he is CAPTAIN AMERICA,, let him.
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A successful pro will never tell you exactly what they take because they don't want anyone else to know their formula. If you want to find a believable drug stack talk to one of the guys that place near the bottom.
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I don't know what any pros actually take, but I know what George Farrah has his NPC Super heavies taking (one of my best friends.) pre contest is ~4g of the usual expected shit. GH still in single digits.
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you are a fucken delusional clown, wake up? you are the only one sleeping and out dated BIGTIME that is why you will not get shredded because you will turn into a bean pole, a skinny, skinny nothing, trust me diet ONETIME, ONETIME ONLY and do it on 3 grams and you will come to the conclusion that shit 3 grams is fuck all.
It is simply not enough to sustain 240 striated not even close. You are making a fucken fool out of yourself here.
Who do I know?, your jaw would drop if I tell you, there is no where else to go but me, I am at the very top, I KNOW EXACTLY EVERYTHING, NOT SOME THINGS, I KNOW IT ALL, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR ME TO LEARN, NOTHING
ya because dennis wolf is going to tell him the truth, YA OK BRO GET FUCKEN REAL, I love gal but that is fucken outrageous to believe that.
I do not care either way if you are choosing to be a dumb naive kid, that is your choice, I am not writing this to change your mind, I am doing so for the sake of others reading this so they do not listen to your retarded assumptions on your hero.
Do genetics play a role?, yes but they all have insane freaky genetics and if levrone has better genetics then the other Olympian, it would be marginal not out of this world where he can shoot lighting.
SWEAR TO GOD TO EVERYONE HERE, I HAD A TOP 5 OLYMPIA CONTENDER STAY AT MY HOUSE FOR THE WEEKEND A FEW YEARS BACK AND HE SPOKE ON EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE
...and yes he says there is a few pros that would never discuss anything and LEVERONE was one of them, he would not talk about it to anyone, PERIOD , so in reality nobody knows in detail what he took but himself.
If flinstone wants to believe he can bring a knife to a gun fight because he thinks he is CAPTAIN AMERICA,, let him.
Why dont you just shut the fuck up you idiotic twat.
You hang around with a load of genetically inadequate gymrats because thats all you are fucking fit for, you have zero genetics yourself so you just HAVE to believe its all about huge dosages to justify your own idiotic regime.
How the fuck do you know your so called "mates" are not just pulling your pisser and laughing at you as you destroy your internal organs and shorten your pathetic fucking life?
Wolf wouldnt tell Gal anything, but oh, they all tell you exactly what they are doing while you sit there like a fucking nodding dog in the back of a car.
Fuck off back to tiling roofs you fucking failed bodybuilder and stop trying to convince the rest of the lapdogs and goons on here you know anything at all.
Jusy popped in for a look and see nothings changed here, Bigmc trying to bully people and getting owned by dj181 when he posted his pic, poor bigmc tried to troll him but when people gave dj181 some props he left the thread sulking.
I notice he hasnt posted much since Donny owned his and just about everyone else's arse.
Anyway guys, glad to see you are all still as fucking pathetic as ever.
Toodloo.
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Why dont you just shut the fuck up you idiotic twat.
You hang around with a load of genetically inadequate gymrats because thats all you are fucking fit for, you have zero genetics yourself so you just HAVE to believe its all about huge dosages to justify your own idiotic regime.
How the fuck do you know your so called "mates" are not just pulling your pisser and laughing at you as you destroy your internal organs and shorten your pathetic fucking life?
Wolf wouldnt tell Gal anything, but oh, they all tell you exactly what they are doing while you sit there like a fucking nodding dog in the back of a car.
Fuck off back to tiling roofs you fucking failed bodybuilder and stop trying to convince the rest of the lapdogs and goons on here you know anything at all.
Jusy popped in for a look and see nothings changed here, Bigmc trying to bully people and getting owned by dj181 when he posted his pic, poor bigmc tried to troll him but when people gave dj181 some props he left the thread sulking.
I notice he hasnt posted much since Donny owned his and just about everyone else's arse.
Anyway guys, glad to see you are all still as fucking pathetic as ever.
Toodloo.
hey welcome back MIKE S Jeff ;)
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1 Jack Daniels 40oz in the afternoon.
1 Jack Daniels 40oz at night, pre workout
4 Jack and Cokes
And 4 bags of 28 WWII toy soldiers
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you are a fucken delusional clown, wake up? you are the only one sleeping and out dated BIGTIME that is why you will not get shredded because you will turn into a bean pole, a skinny, skinny nothing, trust me diet ONETIME, ONETIME ONLY and do it on 3 grams and you will come to the conclusion that shit 3 grams is fuck all.
It is simply not enough to sustain 240 striated not even close. You are making a fucken fool out of yourself here.
Who do I know?, your jaw would drop if I tell you, there is no where else to go but me, I am at the very top, I KNOW EXACTLY EVERYTHING, NOT SOME THINGS, I KNOW IT ALL, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR ME TO LEARN, NOTHING
ya because dennis wolf is going to tell him the truth, YA OK BRO GET FUCKEN REAL, I love gal but that is fucken outrageous to believe that.
I do not care either way if you are choosing to be a dumb naive kid, that is your choice, I am not writing this to change your mind, I am doing so for the sake of others reading this so they do not listen to your retarded assumptions on your hero.
Do genetics play a role?, yes but they all have insane freaky genetics and if levrone has better genetics then the other Olympian, it would be marginal not out of this world where he can shoot lighting.
SWEAR TO GOD TO EVERYONE HERE, I HAD A TOP 5 OLYMPIA CONTENDER STAY AT MY HOUSE FOR THE WEEKEND A FEW YEARS BACK AND HE SPOKE ON EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE
...and yes he says there is a few pros that would never discuss anything and LEVERONE was one of them, he would not talk about it to anyone, PERIOD , so in reality nobody knows in detail what he took but himself.
If flinstone wants to believe he can bring a knife to a gun fight because he thinks he is CAPTAIN AMERICA,, let him.
says the guy who has never even held a kit of pharm grade HGH in his life, and swears that all pros are on generics. ::)
and im not you...stop luping everyone here into categories. Ive never even used 2/3 of the shit you have...you have taken ALOT more shit than guys on this board. You just like discouraging newbies and guys new to the game because it makes you feel better about your lack of success. its not my fault you ended up at 207 on 3 grams of anabolics per week :-\
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says the guy who has never even held a kit of pharm grade HGH in his life, and swears that all pros are on generics. ::)
and im not you...stop luping everyone here into categories. Ive never even used 2/3 of the shit you have...you have taken ALOT more shit than guys on this board. You just like discouraging newbies and guys new to the game because it makes you feel better about your lack of success. its not my fault you ended up at 207 on 3 grams of anabolics per week :-\
ALL TOP OLYMPIA GUYS DO PHARM GRADE, NOT ONE OF THEM DO GENERICS, LEARN TO READ, I SAID ALL THE LOWER LEVEL GUYS DO GENERICS, which happens to be most pros, but the one who can afford pharm grade comfortably do so
lmao twist it anyway you want it does not bother me but please stay on point here, discourage? your statement reeks of someone who has ambition to turn pro, lol is that what you want to do? win a regional first before making that decision, if you want me to be blunt your structure is not made for bodybuilding, you have a big frame, you will look lanky out there unless you compete at 270lb, structure dictates the weight you need to be to do damage, you are simply not COMPACT, also I am bringing the truth, you just can not HANDLE THE TRUTH. that is what this is about.
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Can OTH's OCD get any more hysterical? holy shit I've never seen someone get to dramatic and into geting in the 5 years ive been on here.
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Can OTH's OCD get any more hysterical? holy shit I've never seen someone get to dramatic and into geting in the 5 years ive been on here.
calm down bro, changing the subject and attacking else where shows that you are the one who is getting EMOTIONAL not me, I argue for the cause not a personal agenda.
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ALL TOP OLYMPIA GUYS DO PHARM GRADE, NOT ONE OF THEM DO GENERICS, LEARN TO READ, I SAID ALL THE LOWER LEVEL GUYS DO GENERICS, which happens to be most pros, but the one who can afford pharm grade comfortably do so
lmao twist it anyway you want it does not bother me but please stay on point here, discourage? your statement reeks of someone who has ambition to turn pro, lol is that what you want to do? win a regional first before making that decision, if you want me to be blunt your structure is not made for bodybuilding, you have a big frame, you will look lanky out there unless you compete at 270lb, structure dictates the weight you need to be to do damage, you are simply not COMPACT, also I am bringing the truth, you just can not HANDLE THE TRUTH. that is what this is about.
Of course I'm going to have to be 270 plus, Im not some midget l. ::) but I don't want to compete so that's not the issue. I have no passion for bbing. HOWEVER....I am man enough to admit that lack of drugs is not the reason I wont look like kevin levrone.
If being a pro was so easy what the fuck are you waiting for? you make a good living right? go do it.
Its funny someone mentioned one time you were full of shit and that you actually used FDA GH and lots of insulin and lied about it because you were a poor responder, rolled my eyes at the time...
but perhaps he was right.
comparing some nobody Canadian pro who probably looks like a construction worker in clothes who needs to take 6 shots a day to a guy with the best genetics ever for gaining size and the deepest muscle bellies ever. HAHAa
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yo, flint, i seen the guy recntly who trained and lived with wolf,ill see him soon again and precisely ask and tell you here.
it was 2g test as base, then some of the usual stuff and north of 15iu gh.
i will think of it and ask exactly and precisely.
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yo, flint, i seen the guy recntly who trained and lived with wolf,ill see him soon again and precisely ask and tell you here.
it was 2g test as base, then some of the usual stuff and north of 15iu gh.
i will think of it and ask exactly and precisely.
cool 8)
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Of course I'm going to have to be 270 plus, Im not some midget l. ::) but I don't want to compete so that's not the issue. I have no passion for bbing. HOWEVER....I am man enough to admit that lack of drugs is not the reason I wont look like kevin levrone.
If being a pro was so easy what the fuck are you waiting for? you make a good living right? go do it.
Its funny someone mentioned one time you were full of shit and that you actually used FDA GH and lots of insulin and lied about it because you were a poor responder, rolled my eyes at the time...
but perhaps he was right.
comparing some nobody Canadian pro who probably looks like a construction worker in clothes who needs to take 6 shots a day to a guy with the best genetics ever for gaining size and the deepest muscle bellies ever. HAHAa
lol, if it makes you feel better believing anyone who says what I take so be it, but why take their word for it when I am the most honest poster on getbig, you said so yourself, I have admited to 3 grams and what I accomplished with this (500lb bench, 700lb deadlift and 30 inch thighs) is laughable right? and yet you claim I do more at the same time. Which one is it? my high dose did not produce much? or you think I take even more then I say because you think it takes more? you are all over the place.
BTW THERE IS A GUY AT MY GYM WHO IS NAME MIKE SMITH, HE IS THE ONE WHO KEEPS TELLYING ME I TAKE TONS OF GH. ;D
OH ON ANOTHER NOTE, saying 207 lean is not that much maybe so but believe me, at my frame 5foot 9 with tiny bones and a 29 inch waist in contest shape at 207 people guess I weigh 230 + and that is bodybuilding, a compact look, as for turning pro just because I up my dose is not gurenteed as everyone else is at high doses knocking on the door as well, beside after 3gs per week I get headaches, blood pressure, not easy to handle, I suppose I could push to 5 grams but it is hard and I am a pussy ;) and I dont care to compete more then 2 or 3 more times for the love of the process, I throw my trophies out in the garbage, including the overall I won at a regional event, that is right do not even have it anymore.
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yo, flint, i seen the guy recntly who trained and lived with wolf,ill see him soon again and precisely ask and tell you here.
it was 2g test as base, then some of the usual stuff and north of 15iu gh.
i will think of it and ask exactly and precisely.
2g of test base usually translates in 5-6 + grams if not more.
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lol, if it makes you feel better believing anyone who says what I take so be it, but why take their word for it when I am the most honest poster on getbig, you said so yourself, I have admited to 3 grams and what I accomplished with this (500lb bench, 700lb deadlift and 30 inch thighs) is laughable right? and yet you claim I do more at the same time. Which one is it? my high dose did not produce much? or you think I take even more then I say because you think it takes more? you are all over the place.
BTW THERE IS A GUY AT MY GYM WHO IS NAME MIKE SMITH, HE IS THE ONE WHO KEEPS TELLYING ME I TAKE TONS OF GH. ;D
OH ON ANOTHER NOTE, saying 207 lean is not that much maybe so but believe me, at my frame 5foot 9 with tiny bones and a 29 inch waist in contest shape at 207 people guess I weigh 230 + and that is bodybuilding, a compact look, as for turning pro just because I up my dose is not gurenteed as everyone else is at high doses knocking on the door as well, beside after 3gs per week I get headaches, blood pressure, not easy to handle, I suppose I could push to 5 grams but it is hard and I am a pussy ;) and I dont care to compete more then 2 or 3 more times for the love of the process, I throw my trophies out in the garbage, including the overall I won at a regional event, that is right do not even have it anymore.
dude that's all fine and dandy but I really don't give a fuck what you take. This thread was about kevin levrone...you turned into what x pro and pro does. I know a guy on a 20iu pharm grade hgh per day who's not even a pro , of course I know abuse goes on. But how people would really die for bodybuilding in the quest for extreme size? ALOT, you even said it yourself. How many guys looked like kevin?
It would be foolish to not believe in the slight possibility that kevin may have taken less than today's top guys. Notice I never said I 'absolutely believe" kevin's cycle. I don't ....but would I tell him to get the fuck out of here liar like I would with another pro? I wouldnt be able to without looking like an idiot
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OTH and Flint y'all need to calm down and have a 40 of JD, that's why Kev was so cool and laid back...
Also because when you play with toy soldiers, your side always wins ;D
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OTH and Flint y'all need to calm down and have a 40 of JD, that's why Kev was so cool and laid back...
Also because when you play with toy soldiers, your side always wins ;D
haha. Im far more curious about what type of women kevin dated than what steroids he took. what was his wife Italian? never struck me as the type of black guy to go for sistas.
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haha. Im far more curious about what type of women kevin dated than what steroids he took. what was his wife Italian? never struck me as the type of black guy to go for sistas.
Kev identifies with being white, votes republican and loves rock music hence his band ;D
He even had a nose job to look less "ethnic" :D
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haha. Im far more curious about what type of women kevin dated than what steroids he took. what was his wife Italian? never struck me as the type of black guy to go for sistas.
His wife was mixed just like him...I think he went for all types of chicks...I don't know.
What is funny, is that back in the early 2000s I was buying a Flex magazine from a drug store, and it had Kevin Levrone on the cover. Well, the cashier was this slim light skinned black chick with a round, booming backside and a cute face. She looks at the cover and says, "I know him, he was at Cancun Cantina (Kev really apparently likes to hang out there)---he was dancing with all the girls..."
The girl said that he was "hot".
Kev's sister (the one I have seen) look like a regular light skinned black woman.
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Nope. A black guy who probably had the genetics to be a world class sprinter and the deepest muscle bellies ever, couldn't carry 240 pounds of muscle on 3 grams of pharm grade anabolics per week and 10iu gh per day. ::)
I'd be very curious to know what pros OTH knows lol, probably some nobody Canadian pro with bottom of the barrel genetics and a gut wider than my shoulders.
OTH is OUT TO LUNCH saying genetics don't matter. I could own stock in fuckign bayer, take 10 times the amount he did and not come anywhere close, and neither will anyone here on this board, or anyone in the NPC or any gym in the world. We are talking about the man with probably the best body of all time. Kevin was the Cream of the crop...most pros don't have great genetics.
a guy with the best muscle building genetics of all time class genetics needs 7 grams of pharm gear lmao, gtfo you guys.
Galeniko didn't you speak to dennis wolfe? he told you it was 15iu pharm grade gh per day 1.5 grams of test and a gram of two of exotics correct?
craig titus would run 5 grams of test, all pharm grade...to compete at a whopping 230. I guess dennis newman competing at 249 at 4 years younger than titus had to of been on at least 7 grams of test right? lol..wake up people
I think your love of "levroneflinstone" is blinding u my friend :D
imo levrone is one of the best no doubt but bbing genetics flex wheeler is/was better until he fucked himself up with all that oil
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His wife was mixed just like him...I think he went for all types of chicks...I don't know.
What is funny, is that back in the early 90s I was buying a Flex magazine from a drug store, and it had Kevin Levrone on the cover. Well, the cashier was this slim light skinned black chick with a round, booming backside and a cute face. She looks at the cover and says, "I know him, he was at Cancun Cantina (Kev really apparently likes to hang out there)---he was dancing with all the girls..."
The girl said that he was "hot".
Kev's sister (the one I have seen) look like a regular light skinned black woman.
One thing about kev I remember when he was in CA , mid 2000's he seems to never talk about girls....
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dude that's all fine and dandy but I really don't give a fuck what you take. This thread was about kevin levrone...you turned into what x pro and pro does. I know a guy on a 20iu pharm grade hgh per day who's not even a pro , of course I know abuse goes on. But how people would really die for bodybuilding in the quest for extreme size? ALOT, you even said it yourself. How many guys looked like kevin?
It would be foolish to not believe in the slight possibility that kevin may have taken less than today's top guys. Notice I never said I 'absolutely believe" kevin's cycle. I don't ....but would I tell him to get the fuck out of here liar like I would with another pro? I wouldnt be able to without looking like an idiot
if you do not care what I take then fucken do not bring it up you bi-polar freak. wtf the fucken man BRINGS UP WHAT I TAKE AND THEN he say this HS.
As for Kevin doing less then todays guy, ya you are right but less does not mean 1 fourth ding dong, the guys today are at 10 gs, the 90s was still 6+ but today is insanity beyond belief, only naive young guys like you will not believe this because the truth hurts.
A. you can not do that much
B. if you could you would not because you can not afford it and are broke
C. It scares you from accepting reality.
That is why you believe a runner up at the O is doing only 3gs per week.
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Just for ref I know Cormier talked a lot about 20 iu plus and a lot insulin
Take it for what it is worth lol
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I think your love of "levroneflinstone" is blinding u my friend :D
imo levrone is one of the best no doubt but bbing genetics flex wheeler is/was better until he fucked himself up with all that oil
he will learn the hard way when he tries to step on stage and gets smoked by regional competitors then he will take back that statement that pros do not have good genetics, anyone who wins at the lowest level is in the top percentage of good genetics, at the pro level they all have extraordinary genetics.
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if you do not care what I take then fucken do not bring it up you bi-polar freak. wtf the fucken man BRINGS UP WHAT I TAKE AND THEN he say this HS.
As for Kevin doing less then todays guy, ya you are right but less does not mean 1 fourth ding dong, the guys today are at 10 gs, the 90s was still 6+ but today is insanity beyond belief, only naive young guys like you will not believe this because the truth hurts.
A. you can not do that much
B. if you could you would not because you can not afford it and are broke
C. It scares you from accepting reality.
That is why you believe a runner up at the O is doing only 3gs per week.
That's the thing though, there's guys like. Bostin coming out telling it like it is and people are calling BS and if he said he took less people are still screaming BS , that's too little blah blah blah
U can't win either way whether u take a lot (all drugs ) take a little, guys don't believe u and that u are lying
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That's the thing though, there's guys like. Bostin coming out telling it like it is and people are calling BS and if he said he took less people are still screaming BS , that's too little blah blah blah
U can't win either way whether u take a lot (all drugs ) take a little, guys don't believe u and that u are lying
ya the thing is the transition of knowing the truth is still in process, this is GETBIG and we still have a few individuals like flinstone who are still in denial but there is only a few like him left here, most have seen the light, he is a late bloomer, remember we are talking someone who just paid tbombs for advise not that long ago, clearly he is still a freshmen to the game
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Hopefully no one would take grams of gear to look like this.... Great build - not knocking him and really have no clue who he is - but that is not a "huge dose" build by any stretch
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Hopefully no one would take grams of gear to look like this.... Great build - not knocking him and really have no clue who he is - but that is not a "huge dose" build by any stretch
I don't know his weight there but he is 5'11
Pros u are looking at majority are under 5'10 220-250+
And the 212 guys are maxed at that weight class at around 5'4
Combine that with 3% or so on stage and u do the math what it takes to get there and the required drugs
Genetics + lots of drugs + lots of food+ training = top pro! Hopefully no health problems and u got dexter Jackson in today's bbing world
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wtf, this coming from you is a huge shocker, wow. 245 at 5.9 is fucken Humongus and we are talking quality muscle, not sloppy soft muscle like huh, does huh have bigger arms? no, does he have bigger shoulders, back? NO, Levrone is a fucken beast, lmao at you thinking he does not abuse.
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE, you disagree?
I guarantee you that not every pro in the 90s used as much as possible as often as possible... Too many guys who can't imagine themselves ever being the size/shape of pros just cannot fathom that its anything other than drugs... There are those that are genetically superior... Do tons of guys use tons of drugs - of course... But are some simply better than you - OF COURSE.... Its OK - not everyone can be huge with incredible shape... Hell I would have loved to be able to dunk a basketball - never could but plenty of guys my height could -
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Just for ref I know Cormier talked a lot about 20 iu plus and a lot insulin
Take it for what it is worth lol
really? haha I knew that ESFitness was a fraud fucking full of it. claimed cormier never used much gh.
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Hopefully no one would take grams of gear to look like this.... Great build - not knocking him and really have no clue who he is - but that is not a "huge dose" build by any stretch
actually the amount of muscle he builds in a short period is real good, ya the way you put it does not tell the full story, you make it seem like he takes grams year round to look like that. This guy goes from no muscle looking normal not training, in just a couple months to what you see in the pic, and he does it on one cycle, granted a g and a half but 2-3 months, I would say that is real good
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I guarantee you that not every pro in the 90s used as much as possible as often as possible... Too many guys who can't imagine themselves ever being the size/shape of pros just cannot fathom that its anything other than drugs... There are those that are genetically superior... Do tons of guys use tons of drugs - of course... But are some simply better than you - OF COURSE.... Its OK - not everyone can be huge with incredible shape... Hell I would have loved to be able to dunk a basketball - never could but plenty of guys my height could -
who said it was all drugs, first you have to have everything else, genetics, eating, everything, which everyone has at the pro level then the drugs come into play in mega doses, without genetics, ten grams a week will not get you a pro card but with genetics you are only evening the playing field from there drugs are the make or break since all contenders have insane genetics.
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really? haha I knew that ESFitness was a fraud fucking full of it. claimed cormier never used much gh.
Lol this was in 2000, I was still a teen , didn't know much but recall him saying GH and slin were the name of the game, but Cormier was more a GH guy then slin. he did use both.
Fwiw 20+ IUS , u have amat using this much nowadays , but the slin is out of control as it looks like with the new pros and ones competing
Also Shawn ray said he NEVER touched slin and stuck with a more 90's protocol. This was also straight from his mouth
Kev most likely stuck with a 90's way of drugs but "less" is relative, I believe he uses less than lets say a Kai Greene of today or Phil Heath even a 2003 Coleman but like I said "less" is relative. Def not gym rat dosages
His way of getting ready for shows was a 70's approach too. He went "full blast" phase a few months for comp and prob stayed on "moderate" "maint" dosages off season
Could be healthier who knows lol
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who said it was all drugs, first you have to have everything else, genetics, eating, everything, which everyone has at the pro level then the drugs come into play in mega doses, without genetics, ten grams a week will not get you a pro card but with genetics you are only evening the playing field from there drugs are the make or break since all contenders have insane genetics.
all the pros are at 10 grams. HAAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Aa you fcking idiot. You really think Jay cutler has been on 5000mg testosterone cypionate the past two decades?HE Would BE DEAD. HEART ATTACK STROKE DEAD.
Bevo I think you are right too. I know a pro who only takes 500mg test per week who just takes incredible amounts of gh. Mind boggling.
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all the pros are at 10 grams. HAAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Aa you fcking idiot. You really think Jay cutler has been on 5000mg testosterone cypionate the past two decades?HE Would BE DEAD. HEART ATTACK STROKE DEAD.
Bevo I think you are right too. I know a pro who only takes 500mg test per week who just takes incredible amounts of gh. Mind boggling.
No not all but most, and the low end 6 grams, do not worry little kid, it will catch up to you and you will realize that you were wrong, my word. Until then have fun being NAIVE
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No not all but most, and the low end 6 grams, do not worry little kid, it will catch up to you and you will realize that you were wrong, my word. Until then have fun being NAIVE
lol...listen bud Im not the roofer with two kids and a wife abusing himself to high heavens and putting his kidneys heart and liver in jeapordy to keep some dream alive ...while sitting in the back of the audience at bodybuilding shows like some groupie. You have some serious fucking OCD, and myself and the other members here get a kick out of watching you get dramatic. Fuck this place is full of some characters .
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lol...listen bud Im not the roofer with two kids and a wife abusing himself to high heavens and putting his kidneys heart and liver in jeapordy to keep some dream alive ...while sitting in the back of the audience at bodybuilding shows like some groupie. You have some serious fucking OCD, and myself and the other members here get a kick out of watching you get dramatic. Fuck this place is full of some characters .
lol, oh I know people say shit about me, that is expected but you on the other hand are the biggest LAUGHING STOCK ON GETBIG, in the history of getbig and why.....
BECAUSE YOU ADMITTED TO SITING ON A COUCH WITH A ROOM FULL OF GUYS ALL WATCHING PORN MASTURBATING WITH EACH OTHER.
That my friend makes you the most talked about behind your back.
make fun of me being dedicated to my family and busting my ass off on the roof, owning my own roofing business that I started from scratch, lol go head, I get more props for that then ever.
but you masturbating with your friends to porn, wow, just humiliating
BTW I do not sit in the audience at bodybuilding shows, I am the stage Marshall remember. ;)
how ironic the dude who masturbates with his boys on the couch say this place is full of characters. lmao
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One thing about kev I remember when he was in CA , mid 2000's he seems to never talk about girls....
Sorry, I had to change it, it was early 2000s. Early 90s, I didnt know who Kevin was... I remember it because it was Kevin Lite that was on the cover. And I remember the girl, because I see her around every now and again.
From the people who know him, he was a party animal...from time to time.
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Oh man we've been over this countless times. Whether high or low, you wouldn't believe him either way.
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Nope. A black guy who probably had the genetics to be a world class sprinter and the deepest muscle bellies ever, couldn't carry 240 pounds of muscle on 3 grams of pharm grade anabolics per week and 10iu gh per day. ::)
I'd be very curious to know what pros OTH knows lol, probably some nobody Canadian pro with bottom of the barrel genetics and a gut wider than my shoulders.
OTH is OUT TO LUNCH saying genetics don't matter. I could own stock in fuckign bayer, take 10 times the amount he did and not come anywhere close, and neither will anyone here on this board, or anyone in the NPC or any gym in the world. We are talking about the man with probably the best body of all time. Kevin was the Cream of the crop...most pros don't have great genetics.
a guy with the best muscle building genetics of all time class genetics needs 7 grams of pharm gear lmao, gtfo you guys.
Galeniko didn't you speak to dennis wolfe? he told you it was 15iu pharm grade gh per day 1.5 grams of test and a gram of two of exotics correct?
craig titus would run 5 grams of test, all pharm grade...to compete at a whopping 230. I guess dennis newman competing at 249 at 4 years younger than titus had to of been on at least 7 grams of test right? lol..wake up people
you should probably not talk about things you don't know about. Dennis was a customer at my place in TJ in the early 2000's and would occasionally bring Chris Cormier with. Don't be fucking stupid and think Dennis was a hyper-responder. you really don't know shit. Mr. "I'm the greatest expert on GH15's board and i'm only 19yrs old". you really, really don't know SHIT. just shut the fuck up and leave
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Oh man we've been over this countless times. Whether high or low, you wouldn't believe him either way.
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One thing That's not a lie: 300mgs EQ + 400mgs test Cyp made me testy as fuck and libido through the fuckin roof. Totally different than just the test alone. Maybe it just fucks guys up when they're slamming grams of it?
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really? haha I knew that ESFitness was a fraud fucking full of it. claimed cormier never used much gh.
dude, you're a KID.
you're no expert on anything other than Pokémon.
everything you learned, you read on getbig from GH15, then on gh15's board.
you're a dumbbass kid with delusions of grandeur.
you're what? 20years old? with exactly how many years experience with performance enhancing drugs? a MAXIMUM of WHAT? THREE YEARS? and that's being GENEROUS.
so you're an EXPERT on what other people have been doing for LONGER THAN YOU'VE BEEN ALIVE? have you ever met chris cormier? ever talked to him? have you ever talked to ANYBODY in REAL LIFE? coming from a guy who has NO FRIENDS in real life, I find it very hard to believe you are 'friends' with "pro's". Chris isn't the brightest guy with drugs, and gh was/is expensive and chris wasn't making a ton of money and when it came to spending money on GH or other stuff, he'd choose 'other stuff', and run a min amount of gh... which back then was still expensive as hell.
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ya the thing is the transition of knowing the truth is still in process, this is GETBIG and we still have a few individuals like flinstone who are still in denial but there is only a few like him left here, most have seen the light, he is a late bloomer, remember we are talking someone who just paid tbombs for advise not that long ago, clearly he is still a freshmen to the game
Do you believe the dosages Bostin Lloyd says he takes? I'm sure people take as much as they can handle, but 10+ grams??! Theres gotta be a limit to how much the body can take, no matter how good the genetics are
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Lol this was in 2000, I was still a teen , didn't know much but recall him saying GH and slin were the name of the game, but Cormier was more a GH guy then slin. he did use both.
Fwiw 20+ IUS , u have amat using this much nowadays , but the slin is out of control as it looks like with the new pros and ones competing
Also Shawn ray said he NEVER touched slin and stuck with a more 90's protocol. This was also straight from his mouth
Kev most likely stuck with a 90's way of drugs but "less" is relative, I believe he uses less than lets say a Kai Greene of today or Phil Heath even a 2003 Coleman but like I said "less" is relative. Def not gym rat dosages
His way of getting ready for shows was a 70's approach too. He went "full blast" phase a few months for comp and prob stayed on "moderate" "maint" dosages off season
Could be healthier who knows lol
hold on, levrone at times didnt even train at all after contests, would be pointless to use anything then.
or do you mean off season as in gaining weight-bulk?
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hold on, levrone at times didnt even train at all after contests, would be pointless to use anything then.
or do you mean off season as in gaining weight-bulk?
You are correct. I met Kevin about in the off season and he was not even training. No drugs, lost about 40 like this. He was about 205. He enjoyed music and played in a band. When it was contest prep he would grow into the shows.
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Do you believe the dosages Bostin Lloyd says he takes? I'm sure people take as much as they can handle, but 10+ grams??! Theres gotta be a limit to how much the body can take, no matter how good the genetics are
i dont eblieve bostin for a sceond on these doses.
bc i know its not true
You are correct. I met Kevin about in the off season and he was not even training. No drugs, lost about 40 like this. He was about 205. He enjoyed music and played in a band. When it was contest prep he would grow into the shows.
yah i know an ex pro who did the same thing.
didnt even think about lifting 6months out of a year.
so much for pros never going off.
roland cziurlok was also lie that, hed go from dj181 to his stage self within months.
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Lol this was in 2000, I was still a teen , didn't know much but recall him saying GH and slin were the name of the game, but Cormier was more a GH guy then slin. he did use both.
Fwiw 20+ IUS , u have amat using this much nowadays , but the slin is out of control as it looks like with the new pros and ones competing
Also Shawn ray said he NEVER touched slin and stuck with a more 90's protocol. This was also straight from his mouth
Kev most likely stuck with a 90's way of drugs but "less" is relative, I believe he uses less than lets say a Kai Greene of today or Phil Heath even a 2003 Coleman but like I said "less" is relative. Def not gym rat dosages
His way of getting ready for shows was a 70's approach too. He went "full blast" phase a few months for comp and prob stayed on "moderate" "maint" dosages off season
Could be healthier who knows lol
back in 2000 guys were still maxing out at 16iu or 18iu depending on which brand they had and how much cash they were willing to spend. where would you get "20iu +"??? in 2000?
shit... it wasn't till 03/04 that the doses were creeping up into the 20's with generics.
I call total bullshit.
i'll probably see Chris over the next 2-3 weekends, i'll take a pic of this comment and show him if I see him and see what his take is. I seriously fucking doubt he was running "20+" gh in 2000... he'd be the LAST person i'd believe that of. and I seriously doubt he'd be telling a teenage kid what he was running... Nasser or milos maybe, but not chris, because if you asked chris a question, most likely he wouldn't know the answer when it came to drugs. he was super-simple, with elite genetics.. shit, try to find a pic of his little brother. kid was a beast drug free.
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dude, you're a KID.
you're no expert on anything other than Pokémon.
everything you learned, you read on getbig from GH15, then on gh15's board.
you're a dumbbass kid with delusions of grandeur.
you're what? 20years old? with exactly how many years experience with performance enhancing drugs? a MAXIMUM of WHAT? THREE YEARS? and that's being GENEROUS.
so you're an EXPERT on what other people have been doing for LONGER THAN YOU'VE BEEN ALIVE? have you ever met chris cormier? ever talked to him? have you ever talked to ANYBODY in REAL LIFE? coming from a guy who has NO FRIENDS in real life, I find it very hard to believe you are 'friends' with "pro's". Chris isn't the brightest guy with drugs, and gh was/is expensive and chris wasn't making a ton of money and when it came to spending money on GH or other stuff, he'd choose 'other stuff', and run a min amount of gh... which back then was still expensive as hell.
i have no doubt you have been around and certainly know the scene very well, does this not make you laugh when someone steps up like this, lol, like let the grown men talk and go play in the play ground.
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Do you believe the dosages Bostin Lloyd says he takes? I'm sure people take as much as they can handle, but 10+ grams??! Theres gotta be a limit to how much the body can take, no matter how good the genetics are
OK, here is the deal with him and I am serious here. I know who preps him, not personally but I do know of him and know people who have worked with him, this guy is no joke and knows it all, he has lead many to pro status and he is a guy who top dogs go to so in Bostons case he has the outline of the protocols he uses to prep the mass monsters and Boston is trying to keep up with what is outline so he shares his protocol with us but this is way to much for him to handle and it takes years and years of tolerance and persistence to take this approach but he tries.
So basically he tells this guy I do not want to use an average protocol, I want to go all out and he tries to go to the extreme. I personally think he does half of what he says and he pushes hard but I doubt he gets the numbers he claims, although maybe his intentions.
So I guy I know that had this same guy to work with said it was way too much and he bailed out, he could not follow the procedure and said it was suicide, this is the most extreme case and very few can handle his approach but some do, there are freaks out there that would die for this shit, sad I know.
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OK, here is the deal with him and I am serious here. I know who preps him, not personally but I do know of him and know people who have worked with him, this guy is no joke and knows it all, he has lead many to pro status and he is a guy who top dogs go to so in Bostons case he has the outline of the protocols he uses to prep the mass monsters and Boston is trying to keep up with what is outline so he shares his protocol with us but this is way to much for him to handle and it takes years and years of tolerance and persistence to take this approach but he tries.
So basically he tells this guy I do not want to use an average protocol, I want to go all out and he tries to go to the extreme. I personally think he does half of what he says and he pushes hard but I doubt he gets the numbers he claims, although maybe his intentions.
So I guy I know that had this same guy to work with said it was way too much and he bailed out, he could not follow the procedure and said it was suicide, this is the most extreme case and very few can handle his approach but some do, there are freaks out there that would die for this shit, sad I know.
That's just sad....
I know in one of Bostins vids he said he couldn't handle it and quit and it was too much , who knows if he got back on it or doing half of what is being told
I wonder what Phil or Kai's cycles look like, Phil being that he progressed quickly in 10 years and Kai blew up a lot like a Ronnie the past 6 yrs , he was nothing special from 2007 and below
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i have no doubt you have been around and certainly know the scene very well, does this not make you laugh when someone steps up like this, lol, like let the grown men talk and go play in the play ground.
haha.. my thoughts exactly.
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i have no doubt you have been around and certainly know the scene very well, does this not make you laugh when someone steps up like this, lol, like let the grown men talk and go play in the play ground.
YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN USED PHARM GRADE GROWTH HORMONE. YOU HAVE ONLY USED GENERICS ONE TIME IN YOUR LIFE, CORRECT?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MAENS? . THERE ARE FITNESS CHICKS MORE EXPERIENCED IN DRUG PROTOCOLS THAN YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE USED PHARM GRADE HGH.
Your a gym rat who's experience is only limited to AAS, you cant speak of peptides whatsoever. stick to advising people on basic test deca and tren cycles.... Your advice means nothing to me...all you have to offer people is what your friends have told you. If I wanted to learn first hand how to do something I'd ask a guy who walks the walk. Mr 3 grams of gear to weigh 207, lmao.
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YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN USED PHARM GRADE GROWTH HORMONE. YOU HAVE ONLY USED GENERICS ONE TIME IN YOUR LIFE, CORRECT?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MAENS? . THERE ARE FITNESS CHICKS MORE EXPERIENCED IN DRUG PROTOCOLS THAN YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE USED PHARM GRADE HGH.
Your a gym rat who's experience is only limited to AAS, you cant speak of peptides whatsoever. stick to advising people on basic test deca and tren cycles.... Your advice means nothing to me...all you have to offer people is what your friends have told you. If I wanted to learn first hand how to do something I'd ask a guy who walks the walk. Mr 3 grams of gear to weigh 207, lmao.
Flin: what about generic chinese GH that has been 3rd party tested to be 100% legitimate?
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Flin: what about generic chinese GH that has been 3rd party tested to be 100% legitimate?
i dont know in general, but i heard a frend named galeniko( ;D ) tried some hyges which were good, and some some norditropin which were slightly but clearly better.
how can i desribe the effects of gh if its good one?
something like this.
thinks of 250mg test weekly and nothing else.
then think off 1000mg test and nothing else.
then 250mg test adn 4iu gh daily feels about the same as 1000mh test, just without the extreme water retention.
something liek that.maybe the 1000mg is bit much but 500-750,definitely.
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Flin: what about generic chinese GH that has been 3rd party tested to be 100% legitimate?
Honestly I wouldn't touch it. I'm not saying they do not work, it would be foolish to say they are not better than nothing but I know someone who has the same doctor as Jay cutler and a lot of the pros who used generics in the 90's at certain times of their career before they had the money and the guys who used generics all had one thing in common- massive colin issues....Mike francoise.. used genercs before they had the cash for pharm grade gh ended up with massive colon issues. And I know two gym rats who have used lots of generics who have personally who have suffered the same fait. One who is scared to death. Why risk your health if your not going to compete?
What's funny is some guy who has never even used GH will come in here and argue till he's blue in the face that GH was GH its the same Yet if you ask any experienced HGH user who has been using every day for decades they will tell you there is a big difference with each pharm grade brand. you have eli lily humatrope..genotropin by phizer...serostim by sereno.. ask yourself how are multi billion dollar companies made in billion dollar lab settings making the exact same product....but still producing a product that produces very different results from their sisters in the real world....noticeable enough to the naked eye of gym rats? The answer is obvious- generics are not even going to be in the same galaxy.
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Honestly I wouldn't touch it. I'm not saying they do not work, it would be foolish to say they are not better than nothing but I know someone who has the same doctor as Jay cutler and a lot of the pros who used generics in the 90's at certain times of their career before they had the money and the guys who used generics all had one thing in common- massive colin issues....Mike francoise.. used genercs before they had the cash for pharm grade gh ended up with massive colon issues. And I know two gym rats who have used lots of generics who have personally who have suffered the same fait. One who is scared to death. Why risk your health if your not going to compete?
What's funny is some guy who has never even used GH will come in here and argue till he's blue in the face that GH was GH its the same Yet if you ask any experienced HGH user who has been using every day for decades they will tell you there is a big difference with each pharm grade brand. you have eli lily humatrope..genotropin by phizer...serostim by sereno.. ask yourself how are multi billion dollar companies made in billion dollar lab settings making the exact same product....but still producing a product that produces very different results from their sisters in the real world....noticeable enough to the naked eye of gym rats? The answer is obvious- generics are not even going to be in the same galaxy.
kid, this is where your absolute and total inexperience shines through.
generics have been around as long as you've been using AAS, but they haven't been around forever.
most of us who've been doing this for a long time remember when generic GH FIRST hit the market (remember 'itsgrowtime' hgh from Pro muscle? for $3.5/4 per iu when everything else was 450/500?)... it was LONG LONG LONG after Mike had already had his colitis issues.
jesus Christ.
either you're just making shit up, or you're repeating what other people have told you... people who are equally as inexperienced. like blind leading the deaf.
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Honestly I wouldn't touch it. I'm not saying they do not work, it would be foolish to say they are not better than nothing but I know someone who has the same doctor as Jay cutler and a lot of the pros who used generics in the 90's at certain times of their career before they had the money and the guys who used generics all had one thing in common- massive colin issues....Mike francoise.. used genercs before they had the cash for pharm grade gh ended up with massive colon issues. And I know two gym rats who have used lots of generics who have personally who have suffered the same fait. One who is scared to death. Why risk your health if your not going to compete?
What's funny is some guy who has never even used GH will come in here and argue till he's blue in the face that GH was GH its the same Yet if you ask any experienced HGH user who has been using every day for decades they will tell you there is a big difference with each pharm grade brand. you have eli lily humatrope..genotropin by phizer...serostim by sereno.. ask yourself how are multi billion dollar companies made in billion dollar lab settings making the exact same product....but still producing a product that produces very different results from their sisters in the real world....noticeable enough to the naked eye of gym rats? The answer is obvious- generics are not even going to be in the same galaxy.
BUT FLINT I'M NOT CHOOSING SIDES HERE,OTH IS I IT HE KNOWS WHAT PEOPLE TAKE 1ST HAND ,HIS BUDS,COMPETITIORS,THIS THING GOING ON HERE IS SILLY BETWEEN U 2,BOTH GOOD POSTERS HERE .YOU BOTH COULD BE RIGHT ITS A DRAW.
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kid, this is where your absolute and total inexperience shines through.
generics have been around as long as you've been using AAS, but they haven't been around forever.
most of us who've been doing this for a long time remember when generic GH FIRST hit the market (remember 'itsgrowtime' hgh from Pro muscle? for $3.5/4 per iu when everything else was 450/500?)... it was LONG LONG LONG after Mike had already had his colitis issues.
jesus Christ.
either you're just making shit up, or you're repeating what other people have told you... people who are equally as inexperienced. like blind leading the deaf.
straight from a man who trained at Westside with mike when he wold go to westide to work with louie in the offseason. they were very close
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straight from a man who trained at Westisde with mike when he wold go to westide to work with louie in the offseason.
I seriously doubt the guys at Westside had the ONLY GENERIC HGH on the market 5 years before anybody else had it. There was no generics then, and igf1 still cost $450/mg.
maybe 3 years.. when was Mike done? 98? 97?
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I seriously doubt the guys at Westside had the ONLY GENERIC HGH on the market 5 years before anybody else had it. There was no generics then, and igf1 still cost $450/mg.
maybe 3 years.. when was Mike done? 98? 97?
I don't know ??? he talked about it on another board I will look through his old posts and pm u
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YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN USED PHARM GRADE GROWTH HORMONE. YOU HAVE ONLY USED GENERICS ONE TIME IN YOUR LIFE, CORRECT?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MAENS? . THERE ARE FITNESS CHICKS MORE EXPERIENCED IN DRUG PROTOCOLS THAN YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE USED PHARM GRADE HGH.
Your a gym rat who's experience is only limited to AAS, you cant speak of peptides whatsoever. stick to advising people on basic test deca and tren cycles.... Your advice means nothing to me...all you have to offer people is what your friends have told you. If I wanted to learn first hand how to do something I'd ask a guy who walks the walk. Mr 3 grams of gear to weigh 207, lmao.
WOW, You are fucken dumb. Do you think Hany Rambhod. Chris Aceto and Chad use what they give their clients you dumb fuck, wow so fucken stup, lmao Hany probably does not even lift.
Knowing about the field and being an expert on compounds DOES NOT HAVE TO MEAN YOU HAVE DRENCH YOUR BLOOD IN THEM STUPID, GOD YOU ARE SO DUMB.
ALSO, you just fucked up BIGTIME, you just proved to everyone here you pull all your info out of your ass with that comment on Mike Francois, generics are knew stupid, everyone knows this, Francois only did pharm grade, how could he do generics when NO ONE MADE GENERICS BACK THEN.
i HAD A USA NATIONAL CHAMP AND TOP 5 OLYMPIA, STAY AT MY HOUSE FOR NEARLY A WEEK, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE TALKED ABOUT
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I don't know ??? he talked about it on another board I will look through his old posts and pm u
OF COURSE YOU DO NOT KNOW, YOU ARE A LITTLE BOY WHO KNOWS SHIT, THE PROS IN THE 90S USED GENERICS ??? ??? ??? ???ROTFLMAO, WHERE DID THEY GET IT FROM THEIR TIME MACHINE LOL,
THERE WAS NO GENERICS IN THE 90S STUPID, FUCK SAKES, SHUT THE FUCK UP IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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lmao this thread is like a sitcom
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BUT FLINT I'M NOT CHOOSING SIDES HERE,OTH IS I IT HE KNOWS WHAT PEOPLE TAKE 1ST HAND ,HIS BUDS,COMPETITIORS,THIS THING GOING ON HERE IS SILLY BETWEEN U 2,BOTH GOOD POSTERS HERE .YOU BOTH COULD BE RIGHT ITS A DRAW.
what pros is he friends with? broke pros...nobodies....kevin levrone had groupies ffs.
food for though- I know a guy from another board in Maryland who would ask kevin about shit routinely.....when GH came up and he said that everything but humatrope was garbage. Humatrope is not serostim it requires refrigeration at all times.
WE had a member here stay at kevin's house during prep, special ed...and kevin showed ed all of this "goodies"..yet when he opened the fridge there was no gh there.
Kevin doesn't strike me as someone smart enough, or the type to give a fuck enough about this shit to hide his GH at a friends house or in another fridge. Let alone plan a lie to some random gym rat 5-10 years in advance
So you can take that info....and draw your own conclusions. Or you can take the advice of some nobody, obsessive compulsive Candaian guy who never won shit anyways.
bottom line is that kevin levrone was an alien ....the bo Jackson of bodybuilding...and didn't have to do what a normal human being required to carry extreme size. His stacks were probably very moderate.
I am in the process of getting into contact with the westside member and will ask about Mike F...stay tuned
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levrone was juiced to the gils
roids, hgh, insulin, creatine, arginine
even i can tell such an obvious thing
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levrone was juiced to the gils
roids, hgh, insulin, creatine, arginine
even i can tell such an obvious thing
lol.
but there definitely... I never said what time of the year special ed visited kevin, might of been the offseason...might of been his first few weeks of his prep.....maybe he added gh in later..who knows.
my problem with OTH is how he fails to acknowledge kevin's greatness, and disrespects him by using him in the same sentence with his drug abusing friends with 40 inch waistes and bloated ugly faces
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kevin was a stud
full head of hair, flawless cranium, handsome face, body of a god, questionable bulge tho, i think sometimes he put a sock there and then sometimes didnt, a lot of size fluctuations from tinyprick to mandingo
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levrone was juiced to the gils
roids, hgh, insulin, creatine, arginine
even i can tell such an obvious thing
Yes. You can tell he abuses glutamine in high doses.
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lol.
but there definitely... I never said what time of the year special ed visited kevin, might of been the offseason...might of been his first few weeks of his prep.....maybe he added gh in later..who knows.
my problem with OTH is how he fails to acknowledge kevin's greatness, and disrespects him by using him in the same sentence with his drug abusing friends with 40 inch waistes and bloated ugly faces
Levrone is the best you dumbass, he is my favorite bodybuilder everyone knows that and no one on the planet knows the details of what he took, he would not tell his own Mother this if his life depended on it, elite genetics of course, he is the only one in the history of the sport who ever went from a local show to runner up spot at the Olympia in 2 and half years, but the best genetics ever goes to Coleman and Yates but Leverone is still up there with Flex, either way he still has to do everything else, Yates Flex, Levrone, everyone has to take a lot to sustain muscle, hormones is what produces and sustains muscle, without them you simply can not be 240 with striation, 3 grams is a fucken joke.
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actually the amount of muscle he builds in a short period is real good, ya the way you put it does not tell the full story, you make it seem like he takes grams year round to look like that. This guy goes from no muscle looking normal not training, in just a couple months to what you see in the pic, and he does it on one cycle, granted a g and a half but 2-3 months, I would say that is real good
that cycle was 1.6 grams and lasted exactly 5 weeks in which I went from 158 to 183lbs ..
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Levrone is the best you dumbass, he is my favorite bodybuilder everyone knows that and no one on the planet knows the details of what he took, he would not tell his own Mother this if his life depended on it, elite genetics of course, he is the only one in the history of the sport who ever went from a local show to runner up spot at the Olympia in 2 and half years, but the best genetics ever goes to Coleman and Yates but Leverone is still up there with Flex, either way he still has to do everything else, Yates Flex, Levrone, everyone has to take a lot to sustain muscle, hormones is what produces and sustains muscle, without them you simply can not be 240 with striation, 3 grams is a fucken joke.
3 grms and 207lb is the fucking joke Mr Shittest genetics amongst your deadbeat gymrat buds.
What do you think you will need to take to be 240 onstage, go on humour everyone?
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3 grms and 207lb is the fucking joke Mr Shittest genetics amongst your deadbeat gymrat buds.
What do you think you will need to take to be 240 onstage, go on humour everyone?
my friend my MIKE SMITH recommends this much, he is an annoying guy from my gym
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Levrone is the best you dumbass, he is my favorite bodybuilder everyone knows that and no one on the planet knows the details of what he took, he would not tell his own Mother this if his life depended on it, elite genetics of course, he is the only one in the history of the sport who ever went from a local show to runner up spot at the Olympia in 2 and half years, but the best genetics ever goes to Coleman and Yates but Leverone is still up there with Flex, either way he still has to do everything else, Yates Flex, Levrone, everyone has to take a lot to sustain muscle, hormones is what produces and sustains muscle, without them you simply can not be 240 with striation, 3 grams is a fucken joke.
fair enough....this argument is going nowhere. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings though (not being a prick btw). you need to learn to not take this stuff so seriously. It doesn't make you look very good and it's the reason people give you shit all the time.
As for you, there is no going forward. Your genetics for bbings are horrible....You are maxed the fuck out LONG time ago..
always remember fellas.....the bible thumpers are always the biggest abusers of them all .
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fair enough....this argument is going nowhere. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings though (not being a prick btw). you need to learn to not take this stuff so seriously. It doesn't make you look very good and it's the reason people give you shit all the time.
As for you, there is no going forward. Your genetics for bbings are horrible....You are maxed the fuck out LONG time ago..
always remember fellas.....the bible thumpers are always the biggest abusers of them all .
BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU THINK THAT i GET SERIOUS, i DO NOT, THIS IS MY TONE ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BY NOW.
ALL GOOD ANYWAY ;)
fuck stupid cap locks, my bad
as for genetics maybe they are crap but they exceed yours, structurally you will struggle to place top 5 at local shows and structurally you more then likely have chicken legs and high lats which are a no no for bodybuilding and you also have the physique that are common of people spending 10 years at nationals.
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BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU THINK THAT i GET SERIOUS, i DO NOT, THIS IS MY TONE ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BY NOW.
ALL GOOD ANYWAY ;)
fuck stupid cap locks, my bad
as for genetics maybe they are crap but they exceed yours, structurally you will struggle to place top 5 at local shows and structurally you more then likely have chicken legs and high lats which are a no no for bodybuilding and you also have the physique that are common of people spending 10 years at nationals.
Says the next Mr Fuckin Olympia…Just run off your fabulous contest history for us since you started competing.
You have done fuck all, you will never do fuck all.
Overall at a show with no pictures apart from a fucking painting.
thats pretty much it isnt it?
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Says the next Mr Fuckin Olympia…Just run off your fabulous contest history for us since you started competing.
You have done fuck all, you will never do fuck all.
Overall at a show with no pictures apart from a fucking painting.
thats pretty much it isnt it?
I mentioned to njflex earlier that the guy is full of shit. Nobody as obsessive compulsive as he is doesn't try everything under the sun, he's been to everything and has nowhere to go..and looked like a cross between a fitness model and a bodybuilder.
what is even funnier is how he compares himself to you myself galeniko and others when none of us take anywhere near 3 grams of shit. Hell the Most ive ever taken was 3cc ed, and I lasted about two weeks before I got tired of it. HE comes here to feel big, because he's competing against gym rats who take 500mg test and 300mg tren per week and work 5-9 jobs lol.
Add to the fact he is the only guy in my entire life to have benched 500lb raw and still have the development of a guy moving 2-3 plates..... make strange really...like his body just doesn't want to grow. weird isn't? I feel sorry for the guy
poor fucker :-\
Cut the shit oth, if you could of blown up you would of done it a long time ago.
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I dont give a damn about him.
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look at them going at it
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look at them going at it
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Ex wife on a bulking phase?
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she could never be that lean :(
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A lotta low blows being exchanged in this thread.
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A lotta low blows being exchanged in this thread.
no low blows felt by me, I have nothing to be ashamed of, I am not the one who gets together with all my buddies and watches porn and masterbates, lol
also I deadlifted 5 plates per side yesterday for 14 reps, talk about shit genetics ;D
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no low blows felt by me, I have nothing to be ashamed of, I am not the one who gets together with all my buddies and watches porn and masterbates, lol
also I deadlifted 5 plates per side yesterday for 14 reps, talk about shit genetics ;D
i'll admit to having shitty genetics.
so what?
what's next, am I gonna get made fun of for having blue eyes? how bout being 6ft tall? how bout being white?
so what if I use 4,5,6g's a week and there's some (probably many) guys who use 2g with better physiques? so what?
physique's have a lot more to do with food, than with drugs. all the drugs in the world won't have me walking around 280 w/5% bf if I don't have the time or desire to eat the way 280@5% requires.
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no low blows felt by me, I have nothing to be ashamed of, I am not the one who gets together with all my buddies and watches porn and masterbates, lol
also I deadlifted 5 plates per side yesterday for 14 reps, talk about shit genetics ;D
And you still cant get past 207lb in shape with 5 gms gear. ::)
Self ownage again you numb twat.
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i'll admit to having shitty genetics.
so what?
what's next, am I gonna get made fun of for having blue eyes? how bout being 6ft tall? how bout being white?
so what if I use 4,5,6g's a week and there's some (probably many) guys who use 2g with better physiques? so what?
physique's have a lot more to do with food, than with drugs. all the drugs in the world won't have me walking around 280 w/5% bf if I don't have the time or desire to eat the way 280@5% requires.
anabolic halo loading up a big plate of pasta and chickens
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i'll admit to having shitty genetics.
so what?
what's next, am I gonna get made fun of for having blue eyes? how bout being 6ft tall? how bout being white?
so what if I use 4,5,6g's a week and there's some (probably many) guys who use 2g with better physiques? so what?
physique's have a lot more to do with food, than with drugs. all the drugs in the world won't have me walking around 280 w/5% bf if I don't have the time or desire to eat the way 280@5% requires.
good points
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Levrone is the best you dumbass, he is my favorite bodybuilder everyone knows that and no one on the planet knows the details of what he took, he would not tell his own Mother this if his life depended on it, elite genetics of course, he is the only one in the history of the sport who ever went from a local show to runner up spot at the Olympia in 2 and half years, but the best genetics ever goes to Coleman and Yates but Leverone is still up there with Flex, either way he still has to do everything else, Yates Flex, Levrone, everyone has to take a lot to sustain muscle, hormones is what produces and sustains muscle, without them you simply can not be 240 with striation, 3 grams is a fucken joke.
This, Yates and Coleman's over the top backs carried them. Take their backs away and levrone easily wins. He looks better IMO even losing that back shot to them
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i'll admit to having shitty genetics.
so what?
what's next, am I gonna get made fun of for having blue eyes? how bout being 6ft tall? how bout being white?
so what if I use 4,5,6g's a week and there's some (probably many) guys who use 2g with better physiques? so what?
physique's have a lot more to do with food, than with drugs. all the drugs in the world won't have me walking around 280 w/5% bf if I don't have the time or desire to eat the way 280@5% requires.
what are your thoughts on Dante's old school beliefs that mega dosing protein (in the 500-600gram range) results in some kind of adaptation in chemically enhanced athletes. I believe he posted some studies about it in cycle for pennies...talked about Yates, coleman...and how all these guys were at 400 plus grams protein per day
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look at them going at it
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lol
lots of frustration in this thread.
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lol
lots of frustration in this thread.
a lot of ego and rep's pulling it along.some fact and fiction and heresay .points taken on both sides here,only thing i disagree with is oth being called 2nd rate gym rat and maxxed out nothing,he dosen't walk/talk around here like he's a future national's winner,he knows what it takes and probably has to make those desicions to go to that level.if he does cool if not at least he won something along the way.
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i'll admit to having shitty genetics.
so what?
what's next, am I gonna get made fun of for having blue eyes? how bout being 6ft tall? how bout being white?
so what if I use 4,5,6g's a week and there's some (probably many) guys who use 2g with better physiques? so what?
physique's have a lot more to do with food, than with drugs. all the drugs in the world won't have me walking around 280 w/5% bf if I don't have the time or desire to eat the way 280@5% requires.
This.
Nobody here is Ronnie Coleman. Therefore we all have shit genetics. My "bodybuilding ego" shrinks by the day the more I see how good some dudes really are: Coleman, flex, levrone, etc
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This.
Nobody here is Ronnie Coleman. Therefore we all have shit genetics. My "bodybuilding ego" shrinks by the day the more I see how good some dudes really are: Coleman, flex, levrone, etc
thats magazine 'dreaming'build wise ,we all have been there ,on the internet or pics posted here of guys who do not compete look great for being 'nobodies'as well.
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This.
Nobody here is Ronnie Coleman. Therefore we all have shit genetics. My "bodybuilding ego" shrinks by the day the more I see how good some dudes really are: Coleman, flex, levrone, etc
Dude, just wait till i get ON. Structurally I suck but I have a feeling I could put on some serious mass.
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Dude, just wait till i get ON. Structurally I suck but I have a feeling I could put on some serious mass.
lets go honey...
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lets go honey...
Soon. 8)
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Dude, just wait till i get ON. Structurally I suck but I have a feeling I could put on some serious mass.
it will take years on gear before you even get a jacked up swimmer physique.
dream on
This.
Nobody here is Ronnie Coleman. Therefore we all have shit genetics. My "bodybuilding ego" shrinks by the day the more I see how good some dudes really are: Coleman, flex, levrone, etc
but they only 20lbs heavier than you ;D
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OTH probably has the worst genetic on this board. Im being very serious...I would be willing to bet my giant dick that if anabolichalo were to achieve a 500lb raw bench press....or even a 400lb bench press...he would have a pro sized chest shoulders and probably triceps as well. that goes for anyone.
Ive been around countless powerlifters...bbers...t he best benchers usually have triceps better than most top bodybuilders. (sight injections aside) Kenny Patterson's triceps in person were bigger than phil heath's....Ive seen them both up close.
I have NEVER in my life seen a guy achieve OTH's level of strength and lack his development (who didn't specifically train for those numbers who still trained like a bodybuilder) carry the little amount of lean tissue that he carries. drugs can stimulate growth...sure....but not amount of insulin, no amount of growth hormone will ever provide the growth stimulus to get thick like 500lb raw benches and 700lb deadlifts will. There is nowhere he can go, nothing he can do. either he's lying about his numbers, or he has the worst muscle building genetics on this board.
if hes telling the truth...his best bet is to retire from bbing and cross fingers 4 gene doping honey :(
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OTH probably has the worst genetic on this board. Im being very serious...I would be willing to bet my giant dick that if anabolichalo were to achieve a 500lb raw bench press....or even a 400lb bench press...he would have a pro sized chest shoulders and probably triceps as well. that goes for anyone.
Ive been around countless powerlifters...bbers...t he best benchers usually have triceps better than most top bodybuilders. (sight injections aside) Kenny Patterson's triceps in person were bigger than phil heath's....Ive seen them both up close.
I have NEVER in my life seen a guy achieve OTH's level of strength and lack his development (who didn't specifically train for those numbers who still trained like a bodybuilder) carry the little amount of lean tissue that he carries. drugs can stimulate growth...sure....but not amount of insulin, no amount of growth hormone will ever provide the growth stimulus to get thick like 500lb raw benches and 700lb deadlifts will. There is nowhere he can go, nothing he can do. either he's lying about his numbers, or he has the worst muscle building genetics on this board.
if hes telling the truth...his best bet is to retire from bbing and cross fingers 4 gene doping honey :(
I was/am somewhat similar in that regard but I specifically trained for power and strength. Still, I was always the smaller guy who lifted with the lineman. With OTH there's definitely something wrong there from the bbing perspective. Dude is strong as hell but lacks the size to go with it. I'd personally take a lot of pride in that but I'm not really into bodybuilding.
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I'm somewhat similar in that regard but I specifically trained for power and strength.Still, I was always the smaller guy who lifted with the lineman. With OTH there's definitely something wrong there from the bbing perspective. Dude is strong as hell but lacks the size to go with it. I'd personally take a lot of pride in that but I'm not really into bodybuilding.
No you misread what I said. A guy who gets insanely strong while training like a bodybuilder (a guy who trains in the proper rep ranges necessary to stimulate muscular hypertrophy aka higher than 5 reps ) will always gain massive amounts of size. that is the principal behind dc training...
have a guy take his bench from 200 pounds to 400 pounds hes gonna have some huge fucking pecs assuming he was training in the higher rep ranges to take his bench from 200 to 400..
a guy who takes his bench from 200 to 400, by training the CNS to fire (which is what you did training with singles doubles and triples) will obviously not gain much size hes not training the muscle only the central nervous system. OTH was training like a bodybuilder the past 5 years.
OTH is proof that DC training might not work! lol
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I was somewhat similar in that regard but I specifically trained for power and strength. Still, I was always the smaller guy who lifted with the lineman. With OTH there's definitely something wrong there from the bbing perspective. Dude is strong as hell but lacks the size to go with it. I'd personally take a lot of pride in that but I'm not really into bodybuilding.
hey, dumb ox.
sit on your twink ass and open your ears.
when it comes to muscle, strenght is a relative term.explosive power vs linear strenght under load etc.
controled full rom training will gain more muscle than explosive movement with no contraction under full rom.
theres no such thing like this and that guy looks so and so strong.
example,duh, powerlifters.vs bodybuilders.
one will outperform the other in explosive 1 rep movements, the other will outperform the other with specialised bbuilding moves, slow, contracted, 15 slow full rom reps.
some have better ability to properly flex through whole rom, some suck at that.it shows in the muscle development.
you dumb fucking animal,i hope this helps
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Dude, just wait till i get ON. Structurally I suck but I have a feeling I could put on some serious mass.
Liqueur and bodybuilding are 2 hobbies that don't go together my man
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No you misread what I said. A guy who gets insanely strong while training like a bodybuilder (a guy who trains in the proper rep ranges necessary to stimulate muscular hypertrophy aka higher than 5 reps ) will always gain massive amounts of size. that is the principal behind dc training...
have a guy take his bench from 200 pounds to 400 pounds hes gonna have some huge fucking pecs assuming he was training in the higher rep ranges to take his bench from 200 to 400..
a guy who takes his bench from 200 to 400, by training the CNS to fire (which is what you did training with singles doubles and triples) will obviously not gain much size hes not training the muscle only the central nervous system. OTH was training like a bodybuilder the past 5 years.
OTH is proof that DC training might not work! lol
thats all fine and good, but look at milos, one factor is not accounted for in the above, the speed of the reps,this adds to intesnisty just as much.
cant argue with milos :D
seen him training and how he trains his clients?even the pros?
it LOOKS light, but certainly doesnt feel so.
now dante is a fatso and his approach im not so sure about joints tendons etc.
milos?look at him,hes 50,jacked, healthy(as in,relatively,hes still alive with all stock internal organs),looking great, shredded, and i doubt he got joint issues.
in plain english, do a mix of the both approaches :D
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Liqueur and bodybuilding are 2 hobbies that don't go together my man
i concur.
it worked for levrone, but its no good for the gimick "wolfox".his "physique"(haha) is testament to that.
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thats all fine and good, but look at milos, one factor is not accounted for in the above, the speed of the reps,this adds to intesnisty just as much.
cant argue with milos :D
seen him training and how he trains his clients?even the pros?
it LOOKS light, but certainly doesnt feel so.
now dante is a fatso and his approach im not so sure about joints tendons etc.
milos?look at him,hes 50,jacked, healthy(as in,relatively,hes still alive with all stock internal organs),looking great, shredded, and i doubt he got joint issues.
in plain english, do a mix of the both approaches :D
how much of milos growth was insulin induced though? If I were a serious insulin user I would more favor pumping the muscle up like you mentioned and leaning towards the milos style of training but its hard to eat the food required to not go hypo when you work a full time job etc.
I think we can both agree that for a guy who's only tool in the box is anabolic steroids, gaining strength and constantly increasing the training load is probably his best bet for continued gains once he has maxed out doses. This should work for most people...
all but onetimehard ;D
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hey, dumb ox.
sit on your twink ass and open your ears.
when it comes to muscle, strenght is a relative term.explosive power vs linear strenght under load etc.
controled full rom training will gain more muscle than explosive movement with no contraction under full rom.
theres no such thing like this and that guy looks so and so strong.
example,duh, powerlifters.vs bodybuilders.
one will outperform the other in explosive 1 rep movements, the other will outperform the other with specialised bbuilding moves, slow, contracted, 15 slow full rom reps.
some have better ability to properly flex through whole rom, some suck at that.it shows in the muscle development.
you dumb fucking animal,i hope this helps
I was bigger and stronger than you at 19. You know jack shit. You plagiarize the work of Lyle Mcdonald and try to pass it off as your own. You're a fraud thats been exposed.
You have gh fat folds in your face and you're no where near a competitive bodybuilder.
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how much of milos growth was insulin induced though? If I were a serious insulin user I would more favor pumping the muscle up like you mentioned and leaning towards the milos style of training but its hard to eat the food required to not go hypo when you work a full time job etc.
I think we can both agree that for a guy who's only tool in the box is anabolic steroids, gaining strength and constantly increasing the training load is probably his best bet for continued gains once he has maxed out doses. This should work for most people...
all but onetimehard ;D
i dont know about the insulin, but ppl who grew up with him said he had a phenomanal build while still in ex jugoslavia, before the insulin got trendy.
but then agagin,i dont know how he trained in his beginning.
i have heard insulin induced training is diferent,or supposed to be different,i dont know,never touched that stuff.
I was bigger and stronger than you at 19. You know jack shit. You plagiarize the work of Lyle Mcdonald and try to pass it off as your own. You're a fraud thats been exposed.
You have gh fat folds in your face and you're no where near a competitive bodybuilder.
shut up clown, go sit in the corner.
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No you misread what I said. A guy who gets insanely strong while training like a bodybuilder (a guy who trains in the proper rep ranges necessary to stimulate muscular hypertrophy aka higher than 5 reps ) will always gain massive amounts of size. that is the principal behind dc training...
have a guy take his bench from 200 pounds to 400 pounds hes gonna have some huge fucking pecs assuming he was training in the higher rep ranges to take his bench from 200 to 400..
a guy who takes his bench from 200 to 400, by training the CNS to fire (which is what you did training with singles doubles and triples) will obviously not gain much size hes not training the muscle only the central nervous system. OTH was training like a bodybuilder the past 5 years.
OTH is proof that DC training might not work! lol
No, I understood you bro. Thats why I said there is something wrong there with OTH from a bbing perspective. Props to him tho for being strong as fuck.
shut up clown, go sit in the corner.
Truth is you plagarize Lyle Mcdonalds stuff and try to pass it off as your own. You've been exposed.
Now go back to your crack and meth, you junkie.
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lmfao at this thread
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lmfao at this thread
Stav u are a friend of Antoine right?
I remember u saying his usage and dosages are high?
He does have very good structure/physique though , started very small I believe
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OTH probably has the worst genetic on this board. Im being very serious...I would be willing to bet my giant dick that if anabolichalo were to achieve a 500lb raw bench press....or even a 400lb bench press...he would have a pro sized chest shoulders and probably triceps as well. that goes for anyone.
Ive been around countless powerlifters...bbers...t he best benchers usually have triceps better than most top bodybuilders. (sight injections aside) Kenny Patterson's triceps in person were bigger than phil heath's....Ive seen them both up close.
I have NEVER in my life seen a guy achieve OTH's level of strength and lack his development (who didn't specifically train for those numbers who still trained like a bodybuilder) carry the little amount of lean tissue that he carries. drugs can stimulate growth...sure....but not amount of insulin, no amount of growth hormone will ever provide the growth stimulus to get thick like 500lb raw benches and 700lb deadlifts will. There is nowhere he can go, nothing he can do. either he's lying about his numbers, or he has the worst muscle building genetics on this board.
if hes telling the truth...his best bet is to retire from bbing and cross fingers 4 gene doping honey :(
+1
OTH is banging in pro level dosages and lifting close to Canadian record poundages on the bench, yet cant get out of his bodybuilding diapers.
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OTH probably has the worst genetic on this board. Im being very serious...I would be willing to bet my giant dick that if anabolichalo were to achieve a 500lb raw bench press....or even a 400lb bench press...he would have a pro sized chest shoulders and probably triceps as well. that goes for anyone.
Ive been around countless powerlifters...bbers...t he best benchers usually have triceps better than most top bodybuilders. (sight injections aside) Kenny Patterson's triceps in person were bigger than phil heath's....Ive seen them both up close.
I have NEVER in my life seen a guy achieve OTH's level of strength and lack his development (who didn't specifically train for those numbers who still trained like a bodybuilder) carry the little amount of lean tissue that he carries. drugs can stimulate growth...sure....but not amount of insulin, no amount of growth hormone will ever provide the growth stimulus to get thick like 500lb raw benches and 700lb deadlifts will. There is nowhere he can go, nothing he can do. either he's lying about his numbers, or he has the worst muscle building genetics on this board.
if hes telling the truth...his best bet is to retire from bbing and cross fingers 4 gene doping honey :(
flint you should be the last person calling out someone for their numbers after your 10.6 second on 100 meter claim at 220 lol
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flint you should be the last person calling out someone for their numbers after your 10.6 second on 100 meter claim at 220 lol
Lematrie better be careful...
C'est la vie!
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New vid on dieting and growing into shows.
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flint you should be the last person calling out someone for their numbers after your 10.6 second on 100 meter claim at 220 lol
This claim demands a video.
This is like me saying I have a 650lb bench.
Post the vid Flint!!!
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This claim demands a video.
This is like me saying I have a 650lb bench.
Post the vid Flint!!!
Watch out, he swore on his mother's life that it was true :o
I enjoy Flintstones' postings, simply because he has a terrific imagination. No sarcasm here, he just makes interesting posts... sure the truth gets bent some time but it still makes for good reading
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Flint .. instead of being a bum he could run the gloden series
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This claim demands a video.
This is like me saying I have a 650lb bench.
Post the vid Flint!!!
he did swear on his mom that its true. Imagine if flint started to train with a real trqck and field coach he would easily cut down the time with atleast 0.7 seconds and run under 10seconds. cause when he did 10.6 he didnt even train for 100m so Imagine the posibilities. He should stop with this bodybuilding shit and be the new usain bolt, he would make millions
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Watch out, he swore on his mother's life that it was true :o
I enjoy Flintstones' postings, simply because he has a terrific imagination. No sarcasm here, he just makes interesting posts... sure the truth gets bent some time but it still makes for good reading
He may not of been necessarily lying, it was probably hand timed, there is no way a white man above 200 pounds can run a 10.6. I coached part time at a high school football program and would clock kids running the 40 in 4.6, when we would get to the SPARQ combine these times would turn into your typical 4.8.
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Dude, just wait till i get ON. Structurally I suck but I have a feeling I could put on some serious mass.
wow ::) Are you special?
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i run the 100meters in roughly 4 seconds.
i dont see whats so special about 10.6,thats conserative claim.
i do it with the car 8)
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he knows how fast 10.6 is and still claimw it. If it was me i would have know that there is no way i run so fast on 100m and that the guy that clocked it stoppef way to early. No way in hell i would brag about running 10.6 cause i know it would have been a lie cause im not that delusional i think i could run at those numbers. So flint is lieing or is delusional
10.6?
Did he jump out of a plane?
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He may not of been necessarily lying, it was probably hand timed, there is no way a white man above 200 pounds can run a 10.6. I coached part time at a high school football program and would clock kids running the 40 in 4.6, when we would get to the SPARQ combine these times would turn into your typical 4.8.
flint should know how fast 10.6 is so if it was handholded he shoud know that there is no chamce in hell he did 100m at that time. but still he claim it on his mothers life.. so either he is lieing or he is so delusional so he thinks he did that on 10.6sec
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flint should know how fast 10.6 is so if it was handholded he shoud know that there is no chamce in hell he did 100m at that time. but still he claim it on his mothers life.. so either he is lieing or he is so delusional so he thinks he did that on 10.6sec
Ben Johnson and no steroids.
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flint should know how fast 10.6 is so if it was handholded he shoud know that there is no chamce in hell he did 100m at that time. but still he claim it on his mothers life.. so either he is lieing or he is so delusional so he thinks he did that on 10.6sec
So did he do this before he got togheter with his friends to watch porn and masterbate on the couch ;D
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So did he do this before he got togheter with his friends to watch porn and masterbate on the couch ;D
no, this was after he paid tbums for advices.....
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no, this was after he paid tbums for advices.....
lol paying tbombs, rotflmao :D
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This thread turned out good :D
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This thread turned out good :D
it is all in good fun lol, OF COURSE I WON ;D,... haha, lol in all seriousness I will agree with flinstone on one thing though I can lift a lot more then my muscle make belief, no denying that. 8)
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it is all in good fun lol, OF COURSE I WON ;D,... haha, lol in all seriousness I will agree with flinstone on one thing though I can lift a lot more then my muscle make belief, no denying that. 8)
And a full head of hair that would make anabolichalo jealous ;D
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Stav u are a friend of Antoine right?
I remember u saying his usage and dosages are high?
He does have very good structure/physique though , started very small I believe
no I'm not a friend, more like an aquaintance but I haven't seen him in years especially since I'm not in the bodybuilding scene anymore
yes he was pretty small at his first show but he was about 16 years old if I remember well so it's pretty normal in those circumstances. he has good legs even at his first show and posed with more confidence than anybody at that show.
great genetics as far as muscle mass goes
structure not that much as you can see in his mandatories, but he makes himself look pretty aesthetic in his twisted shots