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Title: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 10:57:16 PM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"

These morons are responsible for countless injuries and stupid gym and training choices. As a teen, I really believed it because everyone was doing it. But like many others, I felt the need to do "pump" sets to really feel the muscle stimulated properly. Later I realized that "pumping" IS the actual training and the heavy stuff is a weird fetish males have who should try powerlifting.

These liars and con artist basically used our own mind against us. Hmm, sound familiar..

Another thing: "You need LOTS of protein.. can't eat it so shakes are a MUST." Now please shell out a lot of cash for useless powders... ads looked enticing. They should do ads for equipoise, deca and primo.

Lies lies and more lies that are perpetrated today. By summer I will finish a book in english detailing EXACTLY what bodybuilding is, exposing all the lies and detailing the truth everyone can learn from. Including the history.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: FermiDirac on March 17, 2014, 11:05:02 PM
"An idiot is soon parted with his money"
The entire supplement industry is a market for snake oil, not a single regulation to what they can do. They should force the companies to have a complete list of ingredients, and in addition, every supplement should have to underrgo chemical analysis and get approval before it reached the shelves

And ya, funny how it's schmoe Wieder and the supplement companies who introduced that you need immense amounts of protein to grow muscles. Actually 5-10% of the caloric intake is all that's used for muscle growth and repair, which usually corresponds to around 1g of protein per kg bodyweight.

Supplement companies makes their living off ignorant kids who wants to be huge and swoll like their $20/$50 heroes. All they need to do is hire some heavy breathing tranny fucker like Piana to say "eat big to get big" and tell the kids that you most certainly need 8 scoops 4 times a day to gain weight.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 11:08:56 PM
I looked at Piana's video wolfing down his huge breakfast of egg whites and oats. "Well, if you ain't growing eat more! 8-10...12 times a day if needed!" This syntholed out roided out oilbag of a middle aged man child who dresses like a 12 yo skater boy and has "adorned" his oil bag with horrid "tattoos", is sitting there preaching to the world with a straight face the biggest lies.

Since when it became "normal" to justify making money by selling lies?

I will gladly stay poor for the rest of this life if this is the price to pay for truth.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 17, 2014, 11:11:59 PM
Why are proteinpowders useless?for a guy like me who have problems getting enough of food they are a easy way  to up my proteins and a fast way if i dont have time to cook me a meal. (I skimmed trough the post only so i may have misunderstood you)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 17, 2014, 11:13:59 PM
I looked at Piana's video wolfing down his huge breakfast of egg whites and oats. "Well, if you ain't growing eat more! 8-10...12 times a day if needed!" This syntholed out roided out oilbag of a middle aged man child who dresses like a 12 yo skater boy and has "adorned" his oil bag with horrid "tattoos", is sitting there preaching to the world with a straight face the biggest lies.

Since when it became "normal" to justify making money by selling lies?

I will gladly stay poor for the rest of this life if this is the price to pay for truth.
well its no much different from all your kgbmindreading storys that you never hade talk about before when you where tryinc to sell your book ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 11:16:07 PM
Why are proteinpowders useless?for a guy like me who have problems getting enough of food they are a easy way  to up my proteins and a fast way if i dont have time to cook me a meal. (I skimmed trough the post only so i may have misunderstood you)
Their bio-availability is zero. Meaning the life force stored in the juices of the meat is gone and only dead matter remains. Besides the physical proteins you need the life force of the animal you eat to feed your Self not just the animal body. That's why your cat, no matter how much Kit Kat pebble food you feed it, it'll always crave a fresh live prey.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 17, 2014, 11:17:17 PM
fuck off gypsy
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 11:17:27 PM
well its no much different from all your kgbmindreading storys that you never hade talk about before when you where tryinc to sell your book ;)
My stories are the foundation for your grandgrandgrandchildrens school curriculum hopefully. Otherwise we'll turn into human robots with no mind of our own.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galain on March 17, 2014, 11:25:12 PM
I was 17 and had just started uni when I picked up Muscle and Fitness for the first time. I thought "Fuck - I need EVERYTHING shown here. How am I supposed to afford it all?".

25 years later I had a high school class with a guy who would rattle into class with a bag full of beta alanine, chicken embryo capsules, protein powder, creatine, L carnitine and god knows what else.

Some things don't change (except for how much disposable income the kids have these days).
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 11:27:21 PM
Yes. I thought the pros looked so good because they could get all those in unlimited quantities for free.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 11:36:28 PM
Yes, it's exactly what it seems...



(http://i.imgur.com/LdOPw.jpg)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: The True Adonis on March 17, 2014, 11:41:16 PM
Their bio-availability is zero. Meaning the life force stored in the juices of the meat is gone and only dead matter remains. Besides the physical proteins you need the life force of the animal you eat to feed your Self not just the animal body. That's why your cat, no matter how much Kit Kat pebble food you feed it, it'll always crave a fresh live prey.
No.

http://www.livescience.com/34471-cats-dead-animals.html

(http://i.livescience.com/images/i/000/050/623/i02/cat-dead-mouse.jpg?1364611726)


Why Do Cats Bring Home Dead Animals?
Elizabeth Palermo, LiveScience Contributor   |   March 29, 2013 04:42pm ET


It’s an all-too-familiar story for the owners of indoor-outdoor cats: You open the door to let Kitty in for dinner and what does she bring with her? A dead rodent, of course.

Such impolite behavior leaves many cat owners scratching their heads. Why, after all, would your cat need to kill her meals when that bowl of Friskies is filled to the brim? Is she just a whole lot meaner than she looks?

Before determining that their cat is simply a cold-blooded killer, cat owners should understand a few facts about what's driving their pet's behavior.

Cats are, first and foremost, natural-born hunters, as recent studies of the effects that feral and indoor-outdoor cats have on bird and rodent populations have shown. Cats allegedly kill billions of small animals every year in the United States alone. But that doesn’t make them evil — just extremely well-adapted to a carnivorous lifestyle.

Though they were first domesticated nearly 10,000 years ago, cats retain the keen hunting instincts of their wild ancestors, as well as the simple gut that allows them to digest raw meat.

However, many cats don't eat their prey, and sometimes they don't even kill it. (If you've ever had to chase an injured squirrel out of your kitchen, then you've seen this behavior firsthand.) Spayed female cats are the most likely to bring gory gifts to their owners. But they have their reasons.

In the wild, cat mothers teach their young how to eat their food by bringing home dead or injured prey. Domestic cats are no different. But in this modern age of spayed domestic cats, many female felines have no young to whom they need to pass on their hunting wisdom.

By leaving a dead animal on the back porch, your cat is acting out its natural role as mother and teacher. You, her loving owner, represent her surrogate family. And frankly, she knows you would never have been able to catch that delicious mouse on your own.

So before you chastise your cat for her deadly habits, consider what her behavior really means. From eating to using the litter box, your cat's habits are based on a highly evolved survival instinct.

Follow LiveScience on Twitter @livescience. We're also on Facebook & Google+.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Bevo on March 17, 2014, 11:41:43 PM
I was 17 and had just started uni when I picked up Muscle and Fitness for the first time. I thought "Fuck - I need EVERYTHING shown here. How am I supposed to afford it all?".

25 years later I had a high school class with a guy who would rattle into class with a bag full of beta alanine, chicken embryo capsules, protein powder, creatine, L carnitine and god knows what else.

Some things don't change (except for how much disposable income the kids have these days).

U were 17 in college and then 25 yrs later in HS??
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: The True Adonis on March 17, 2014, 11:44:03 PM
U were 17 in college and then 25 yrs later in HS??
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WK5K8X51L.jpg)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 11:45:13 PM
No.

http://www.livescience.com/34471-cats-dead-animals.html

(http://i.livescience.com/images/i/000/050/623/i02/cat-dead-mouse.jpg?1364611726)


Why Do Cats Bring Home Dead Animals?
Elizabeth Palermo, LiveScience Contributor   |   March 29, 2013 04:42pm ET


It’s an all-too-familiar story for the owners of indoor-outdoor cats: You open the door to let Kitty in for dinner and what does she bring with her? A dead rodent, of course.

Such impolite behavior leaves many cat owners scratching their heads. Why, after all, would your cat need to kill her meals when that bowl of Friskies is filled to the brim? Is she just a whole lot meaner than she looks?

Before determining that their cat is simply a cold-blooded killer, cat owners should understand a few facts about what's driving their pet's behavior.

Cats are, first and foremost, natural-born hunters, as recent studies of the effects that feral and indoor-outdoor cats have on bird and rodent populations have shown. Cats allegedly kill billions of small animals every year in the United States alone. But that doesn’t make them evil — just extremely well-adapted to a carnivorous lifestyle.

Though they were first domesticated nearly 10,000 years ago, cats retain the keen hunting instincts of their wild ancestors, as well as the simple gut that allows them to digest raw meat.

However, many cats don't eat their prey, and sometimes they don't even kill it. (If you've ever had to chase an injured squirrel out of your kitchen, then you've seen this behavior firsthand.) Spayed female cats are the most likely to bring gory gifts to their owners. But they have their reasons.

In the wild, cat mothers teach their young how to eat their food by bringing home dead or injured prey. Domestic cats are no different. But in this modern age of spayed domestic cats, many female felines have no young to whom they need to pass on their hunting wisdom.

By leaving a dead animal on the back porch, your cat is acting out its natural role as mother and teacher. You, her loving owner, represent her surrogate family. And frankly, she knows you would never have been able to catch that delicious mouse on your own.

So before you chastise your cat for her deadly habits, consider what her behavior really means. From eating to using the litter box, your cat's habits are based on a highly evolved survival instinct.

Follow LiveScience on Twitter @livescience. We're also on Facebook & Google+.
bla bla .. another post where you cannot argue shit but quote some dumb "scientific" proof .. gayer than the Adonid Principles
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galain on March 17, 2014, 11:46:39 PM
U were 17 in college and then 25 yrs later in HS??

It felt like it sometimes.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 17, 2014, 11:47:07 PM
My stories are the foundation for your grandgrandgrandchildrens school curriculum hopefully. Otherwise we'll turn into human robots with no mind of our own.
;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 17, 2014, 11:49:07 PM
Their bio-availability is zero. Meaning the life force stored in the juices of the meat is gone and only dead matter remains. Besides the physical proteins you need the life force of the animal you eat to feed your Self not just the animal body. That's why your cat, no matter how much Kit Kat pebble food you feed it, it'll always crave a fresh live prey.
dude no offence but you have zero rights in this post...not even the catpart.  Show me some studies to read if you please that shows this
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 17, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
dude no offence but you have zero rights in this post...not even the catpart.  Show me some studies to read if you please that shows this
My post is obviously beyond your comprehension level. If I were to use "mensa bob" as the person to confirm or not what I learned in life so far it would be insanity on my part. So just read what I write and make up your own mind but don't tell me what you think it's right or wrong because it's pointless. I am my own study stupid. While you and Apenis are the flag bearers of the Brainwash Generation.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 17, 2014, 11:55:55 PM
My post is obviously beyond your comprehension level. If I were to use "mensa bob" as the person to confirm or not what I learned in life so far it would be insanity on my part. So just read what I write and make up your own mind but don't tell me what you think it's right or wrong because it's pointless. I am my own study stupid. While you and Apenis are the flag bearers of the Brainwash Generation.
whats even  more funny is that the mensa part was a misspelling of mesa when i was drunk and registred on gb....

but so no, you have zero to back up your talk as usualand you are talking out of your cute little ass
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: The True Adonis on March 17, 2014, 11:56:07 PM
bla bla .. another post where you cannot argue shit but quote some dumb "scientific" proof .. gayer than the Adonid Principles

So you rather just believe in fiction and fairy tales?   ???
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 17, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
bla bla .. another post where you cannot argue shit but quote some dumb "scientific" proof .. gayer than the Adonid Principles
umm its that not what you are doing? Atleast he backs it up with something unlike you who starts with insults so you dont yave have to backup cause there are non
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 17, 2014, 11:58:40 PM
Tell us more about the lizard people sev.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sagittal chest on March 18, 2014, 12:00:33 AM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"

These morons are responsible for countless injuries and stupid gym and training choices. As a teen, I really believed it because everyone was doing it. But like many others, I felt the need to do "pump" sets to really feel the muscle stimulated properly. Later I realized that "pumping" IS the actual training and the heavy stuff is a weird fetish males have who should try powerlifting.

These liars and con artist basically used our own mind against us. Hmm, sound familiar..

Another thing: "You need LOTS of protein.. can't eat it so shakes are a MUST." Now please shell out a lot of cash for useless powders... ads looked enticing. They should do ads for equipoise, deca and primo.

Lies lies and more lies that are perpetrated today. By summer I will finish a book in english detailing EXACTLY what bodybuilding is, exposing all the lies and detailing the truth everyone can learn from. Including the history.  I do not expect a publishing deal from the Weiders  :D (fucking scumbag liars and conmen like all the liars and snake oil artists that plague this "industry")

Not sure about your explanation,
but I too wonder about the bioavailability of protein powders.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 12:03:01 AM
Someone should rename this thread to another classic sev lie cause there have been a few over the years  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 18, 2014, 12:03:45 AM
Someone should rename this thread to another classic sev lie cause there have been a few over the years  ;D
rename it


"sev's broken dreams - part 541654"
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: no one on March 18, 2014, 12:10:59 AM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"



technically, he didn't lie.

all big champions used a ton of gear. and using a ton of gear gave them the ability to move heavy weight with relative ease. the more gear you take, the more weight you can lift with ease thereby creating the hypertrophy needed to become a champion.

so, in a perverse way, they did get that big lifting heavy weight.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 12:11:26 AM
umm its that not what you are doing? Atleast he backs it up with something unlike you who starts with insults so you dont yave have to backup cause there are non
I insult you because I like it. I don't need backing up. I state what I know and that's that. You don't agree with me? Good. Now fuck off  :)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 12:12:34 AM
I insult you because I like it. I don't need backing up. I state what I know and that's that. You don't agree with me? Good. Now fuck off  :)
in other words you are talking out of your ass but cant admit it
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: The True Adonis on March 18, 2014, 12:18:14 AM
in other words you are talking out of your ass but cant admit it
Hilarious that he is doing the same thing he is accusing of Weider doing- Making stuff up and talking out of ones ass.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 12:18:41 AM
technically, he didn't lie.

all big champions used a ton of gear. and using a ton of gear gave them the ability to move heavy weight with relative ease. the more gear you take, the more weight you can lift with ease thereby creating the hypertrophy needed to become a champion cause .

so, in a perverse way, they did get that big lifting heavy weight.
He lied and promoted the WRONG way to train along with the countless meatheads he "sponsored".

I did meet smart bodybuilders. They all understand that there is a smart way to train for longevity and optimal stimuli, and a wrong way where there is so much damage done the body gets injured then starts artrophying like Ronnie, Jay, Branch etc .. this combined with the stupidest choices in drugs and abusing them ad nauseam.

Nobody who understands bodybuilding will ever argue me because there is the obvious and it's easy to spot it.

There is no "technically not a lie" .. the Weiders and the whole machine behind them were not a couple of idiots who did know any better. The deliberately lied and deceived many generation.

I want to promote what I understand about bodybuilding, the truth in general. But the truth is hard to stomach and it does not bring you much financial gain. I waved goodbye to dreams of "wealth" a long time ago so I get off on being truthful.

People who fuck bodybuilders in the ass or watch them being fucked by dobermans and cheetas are not much into "truth".

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 18, 2014, 12:20:18 AM
He lied and promoted the WRONG way to train along with the countless meatheads he "sponsored".

I did meet smart bodybuilders. They all understand that there is a smart way to train for longevity and optimal stimuli, and a wrong way where there is so much damage done the body gets injured then starts artrophying like Ronnie, Jay, Branch etc .. this combined with the stupidest choices in drugs and abusing them ad nauseam.

Nobody who understands bodybuilding will ever argue me because there is the obvious and it's easy to spot it.

There is no "technically not a lie" .. the Weiders and the whole machine behind them were not a couple of idiots who did know any better. The deliberately lied and deceived many generation.

I want to promote what I understand about bodybuilding, the truth in general. But the truth is hard to stomach and it does not bring you much financial gain. I waved goodbye to dreams of "wealth" a long time ago so I get off on being truthful.

People who fuck bodybuilders in the ass or watch them being fucked by dobermans and cheetas are not much into "truth".



(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=434172.0;attach=479422;image)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 12:22:07 AM
Hilarious that he is doing the same thing he is accusing of Weider doing- Making stuff up and talking out of ones ass.
You and your family are part of the problem. You are a prime example of a trust fund kid with a chip on his anorexic shoulders.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 18, 2014, 12:22:44 AM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"

These morons are responsible for countless injuries and stupid gym and training choices. As a teen, I really believed it because everyone was doing it. But like many others, I felt the need to do "pump" sets to really feel the muscle stimulated properly. Later I realized that "pumping" IS the actual training and the heavy stuff is a weird fetish males have who should try powerlifting.

These liars and con artist basically used our own mind against us. Hmm, sound familiar..

Another thing: "You need LOTS of protein.. can't eat it so shakes are a MUST." Now please shell out a lot of cash for useless powders... ads looked enticing. They should do ads for equipoise, deca and primo.

Lies lies and more lies that are perpetrated today. By summer I will finish a book in english detailing EXACTLY what bodybuilding is, exposing all the lies and detailing the truth everyone can learn from. Including the history.  I do not expect a publishing deal from the Weiders  :D (fucking scumbag liars and conmen like all the liars and snake oil artists that plague this "industry")

Lizard people

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0f7b17b38620735e73cd38e2a7e088b6/tumblr_mv6sv98UuS1ren23ho1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
You and your family are part of the problem. You are a prime example of a trust fund kid with a chip on his anorexic shoulders.
see here you come again with insults unstead of adressing his post lol
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 12:42:20 AM
see here you come again with insults unstead of adressing his post lol
leave the passive aggressive behavior to others .. you are another anonymous idiot on getbig who thinks he knows better .. you don't .. I am smart you are dumb.. such is life  :)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 12:47:01 AM
write your opinion on the matter if you have one .. but don't quote me what others said because it's stupid and does not validate shit
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 18, 2014, 12:49:56 AM
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Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 18, 2014, 12:57:30 AM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"

These morons are responsible for countless injuries and stupid gym and training choices. As a teen, I really believed it because everyone was doing it. But like many others, I felt the need to do "pump" sets to really feel the muscle stimulated properly. Later I realized that "pumping" IS the actual training and the heavy stuff is a weird fetish males have who should try powerlifting.

These liars and con artist basically used our own mind against us. Hmm, sound familiar..

Another thing: "You need LOTS of protein.. can't eat it so shakes are a MUST." Now please shell out a lot of cash for useless powders... ads looked enticing. They should do ads for equipoise, deca and primo.

Lies lies and more lies that are perpetrated today. By summer I will finish a book in english detailing EXACTLY what bodybuilding is, exposing all the lies and detailing the truth everyone can learn from. Including the history.  I do not expect a publishing deal from the Weiders  :D (fucking scumbag liars and conmen like all the liars and snake oil artists that plague this "industry")

I'll buy that book. Sign me up as a customer. Your first. I want it signed too.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 01:01:29 AM
leave the passive aggressive behavior to others .. you are another anonymous idiot on getbig who thinks he knows better .. you don't .. I am smart you are dumb.. such is life  :)
lol you can better theb this sev
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: no one on March 18, 2014, 01:04:55 AM
He lied and promoted the WRONG way to train along with the countless meatheads he "sponsored".

I did meet smart bodybuilders. They all understand that there is a smart way to train for longevity and optimal stimuli, and a wrong way where there is so much damage done the body gets injured then starts artrophying like Ronnie, Jay, Branch etc .. this combined with the stupidest choices in drugs and abusing them ad nauseam.

Nobody who understands bodybuilding will ever argue me because there is the obvious and it's easy to spot it.

There is no "technically not a lie" .. the Weiders and the whole machine behind them were not a couple of idiots who did know any better. The deliberately lied and deceived many generation.

I want to promote what I understand about bodybuilding, the truth in general. But the truth is hard to stomach and it does not bring you much financial gain. I waved goodbye to dreams of "wealth" a long time ago so I get off on being truthful.

People who fuck bodybuilders in the ass or watch them being fucked by dobermans and cheetas are not much into "truth".



lol.

bro. you cant debate what i wrote.

its just not debatable. anabolics= strength. strength = ability to move heavy weight. heavy weight + anabolics = hypertrophy.

tell you what. as an experiment i want you to run 2, 3 month cycles.

the first cycle take x amount of anabolics, x amount of cals and protein and thru the length of your cycle life exactly the same poundages you used on day one.

then, for cycle two, take the same amount of anabolics again, the same amount of protein cals again, and lift as much weight as your muscle can lift each session. increase the poundages where you feel they can be increased without 'damaging' yourself.

lol its a pretty simple concept sev- what the fuck do you think is going to happen- think your going to make the exact same gains in each cycle?

no, you are not.

so, guess what? where does this leave us sev thru process of elimination? champions did get that way lifting fucking heavy weight. i dont even know why i am wasting my time debating this stupidity i hope to fuck you are trolling if so kudos. if not your have absolutely no clue what in the fuck you are talking about.

as for branch and jay and el the average trainer will NEVER come within a mile of ever looking as shitty as they do simply because they lack a) the anabolics, and b) the strength gained from them to ever experience that kind of atrophy due to injury. if so you'd see nattys everywhere who look like shit cause i know some nattys who train harder and heavier than most juicers i know and look better.

your arguments are nonsensical.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 01:08:56 AM
lol.

bro. you cant debate what i wrote.

its just not debatable. anabolics= strength. strength = ability to move heavy weight. heavy weight + anabolics = hypertrophy.

tell you what. as an experiment i want you to run 2, 3 month cycles.

the first cycle take x amount of anabolics, x amount of cals and protein and thru the length of your cycle life exactly the same poundages you used on day one.

then, for cycle two, take the same amount of anabolics again, the same amount of protein cals again, and lift as much weight as your muscle can lift each session. increase the poundages where you feel they can be increased without 'damaging' yourself.

lol its a pretty simple concept sev- what the fuck do you think is going to happen- think your going to make the exact same gains in each cycle?

no, you are not.

so, guess what? where does this leave us sev thru process of elimination? champions did get that way lifting fucking heavy weight. i dont even know why i am wasting my time debating this stupidity i hope to fuck you are trolling if so kudos. if not your have absolutely no clue what in the fuck you are talking about.

I know they did.. but that does not make it THE sole muscle building way. Moderate higher volume is much better both short and long term IMO. And it does not justify false supplement ads filled with lies and deception which was my point. So technically they DID lie.

I do know what I am talking about. I also walk what I talk and always did. I trained in every possible manner and experimented with everything. You are arguing something else than what I stated initially which is ok but there is no debating what I stated. We all agree on that.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 18, 2014, 01:09:05 AM
lol.

bro. you cant debate what i wrote.

its just not debatable. anabolics= strength. strength = ability to move heavy weight. heavy weight + anabolics = hypertrophy.

tell you what. as an experiment i want you to run 2, 3 month cycles.

the first cycle take x amount of anabolics, x amount of cals and protein and thru the length of your cycle life exactly the same poundages you used on day one.

then, for cycle two, take the same amount of anabolics again, the same amount of protein cals again, and lift as much weight as your muscle can lift each session. increase the poundages where you feel they can be increased without 'damaging' yourself.

lol its a pretty simple concept sev- what the fuck do you think is going to happen- think your going to make the exact same gains in each cycle?

no, you are not.

so, guess what? where does this leave us sev thru process of elimination? champions did get that way lifting fucking heavy weight. i dont even know why i am wasting my time debating this stupidity i hope to fuck you are trolling if so kudos. if not your have absolutely no clue what in the fuck you are talking about.


To be fair broski, Paul Dillet was notorious for lifting pussy weights. He still became one of the biggest fucking guys.

If you stimulate the muscle enough, does poundage matter?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: no one on March 18, 2014, 01:11:01 AM
To be fair broski, Paul Dillet was notorious for lifting pussy weights. He still became one of the biggest fucking guys.

If you stimulate the muscle enough, does poundage matter?

do the experiment as i have outlined it.

report back.

thank you.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 01:12:34 AM
To be fair broski, Paul Dillet was notorious for lifting pussy weights. He still became one of the biggest fucking guys.

If you stimulate the muscle enough, does poundage matter?
no it does not

in the long run, the muscle tears literally cripple slowly but surely the muscle and the shape suffers as well as volume because of scar tissue and repair ability... it also does damage to the spine while compressing it, pinching nerves and artrophy follows
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 01:14:52 AM
no one... you must think I am anabolic halo or another stupid newbie .. I did your "experiment" in more ways than one over the years .. do you think I reached my current training phylosophy because I dreamt it in a cave on the mountains? lay off the tren bro  ;D


you also must forget that I was trained by one of those "champions" .. one of the few smart ones  ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 18, 2014, 01:18:51 AM
do the experiment as i have outlined it.

report back.

thank you.

And your word on Dillet?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 18, 2014, 01:30:07 AM
Just been watching a few videos on Youtube. Flex Wheeler, Dillet and Phil Heath. I'm sorry but apart from where Flex lifts the entire stack on the machine Shoulder Press (see for yourself on 'Flex Wheeler Shoulder Attack'), complete with obligatory 4inch range of motion, he lifts the same poundages in the rest of the video that 'I' lift in the gym every day. And his form is ridiculous. Swinging all over the place.

Get your drug stack right, not the training so much. By the looks of it.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 01:31:33 AM
Just been watching a few videos on Youtube. Flex Wheeler, Dillet and Phil Heath. I'm sorry but apart from where Flex lifts the entire stack on the machine Shoulder Press (see for yourself on 'Flex Wheeler Shoulder Attack'), complete with obligatory 4inch range of motion, he lifts the same poundages in the rest of the video that 'I' lift in the gym every day. And his form is ridiculous. Swinging all over the place.

Get your drug stack right, not the training so much. By the looks of it.
there are pro's who take training seriously and have a good rythm

I recommend Ron Love, Vince Taylor and Toney Freeman.. they should be talking about training
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 01:34:55 AM
Just been watching a few videos on Youtube. Flex Wheeler, Dillet and Phil Heath. I'm sorry but apart from where Flex lifts the entire stack on the machine Shoulder Press (see for yourself on 'Flex Wheeler Shoulder Attack'), complete with obligatory 4inch range of motion, he lifts the same poundages in the rest of the video that 'I' lift in the gym every day. And his form is ridiculous. Swinging all over the place.

Get your drug stack right, not the training so much. By the looks of it.
most of the  videos are made bust before a competition it would just be stupid to train heavy and risk a injury when they are so shredded and depleted, better to watch them train in the offseason to see if they lift heavy or not
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 18, 2014, 01:41:06 AM
most of the  videos are made bust before a competition it would just be stupid to train heavy and risk a injury when they are so shredded and depleted, better to watch them train in the offseason to see if they lift heavy or not

That's true. But I'd still be surprise if they trained with life-threatening amounts of weight. Stimulate the muscle. Whether it takes 10kgs or 100kgs. It's stimulated. It doesn't 'know' what weight you lifted. Why should it care. If you're purely training for strength or brute power, I'd say a strong case could be made for prolonged increase of weight, but for bodybuilding purpose I'm not so sure.

And since I don't bother with drugs any more, I'll probably never know. What I do know is that my legs are knocked the fuck out with DOMS today after medium-heavy weight on the Leg Press for 15-18 reps per set. The same on Hacks after that.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 01:43:31 AM
That's true. But I'd still be surprise if they trained with life-threatening amounts of weight. Stimulate the muscle. Whether it takes 10kgs or 100kgs. It's stimulated. It doesn't 'know' what weight you lifted. Why should it care. If you're purely training for strength or brute power, I'd say a strong case could be made for prolonged increase of weight, but for bodybuilding purpose I'm not so sure.

And since I don't bother with drugs any more, I'll probably never know. What I do know is that my legs are knocked the fuck out with DOMS today after medium-heavy weight on the Leg Press for 15-18 reps per set. The same on Hacks after that.
im with you, i used to train heavy  but started to grow much befter i stopped lifting with my ego..but what i think  l one ment is that its all relative, whats heavy weight for someone is lightweight for another (coleman yeah buddyyyy)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sososue on March 18, 2014, 01:47:20 AM
no one... you must think I am anabolic halo or another stupid newbie .. I did your "experiment" in more ways than one over the years .. do you think I reached my current training phylosophy because I dreamt it in a cave on the mountains? lay off the tren bro  ;D


you also must forget that I was trained by one of those "champions" .. one of the few smart ones  ;)

Talk about delusional, you are  a skinny twink who has looked like shit for 95% of his life.

And you lie all the time.
You said you competed, that was a lie.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 18, 2014, 01:47:43 AM
im with you, i used to train heavy  but started to grow much befter i stopped lifting with my ego..but what i think  l one ment is that its all relative, whats heavy weight for someone is lightweight for another (coleman yeah buddyyyy)

Coleman was ridiculous. That famous 200lbs dumbell presses on incline was just insane. But I think he paid the price for it. Whilst someone like Vince Taylor looked great into his 50s, Coleman melted away. Muscles and nerves are shot. And I'm convinced he still would've looked just as great had he used the 110 dumbells.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 18, 2014, 01:51:56 AM
fuck off gypsy

You to call someone gypsy, ::) oh-la-la , what colour is 'baby mama' & jr.  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Nomad on March 18, 2014, 01:55:12 AM
Someone should rename this thread to another classic sev lie cause there have been a few over the years  ;D

Sev is very easy to upset.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 03:39:12 AM
Sev is very easy to upset.
haha another "conclusion" from a gimmick. I'm just having fun and love to share and listen to people who have something to say.


People like Menspa Bob, wolfcox, shitso, chimps etc are here just to shoot the shit that's why they stay anonimous and have zero to contribute bb wise
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Nomad on March 18, 2014, 03:57:30 AM
haha another "conclusion" from a gimmick. I'm just having fun and love to share and listen to people who have something to say.


People like Menspa Bob, wolfcox, shitso, chimps etc are here just to shoot the shit that's why they stay anonimous and have zero to contribute bb wise

You are not helping yourself here.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 03:59:43 AM
You are not helping yourself here.
your word weighs a lot  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 04:06:34 AM
Another guy that I think trains smart and can be followed is Kai Greene. Minus the 500lbs bench stunts.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Rambone on March 18, 2014, 05:03:30 AM
Weider lied. Bodybuilders died.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 05:42:46 AM
haha another "conclusion" from a gimmick. I'm just having fun and love to share and listen to people who have something to say.


People like Menspa Bob, wolfcox, shitso, chimps etc are here just to shoot the shit that's why they stay anonimous and have zero to contribute bb wise
naah its more that i talk about illegal stuff and live in a country that threats roidusers like drugaddicts so i prefer to stay anonymous..the only one who knows my real identity is kwon....chimps have showd his face sp he is hardly anonomys....thus is what yoj say just becas3 you dont like to be called out on all the nutty stuff you say here.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Purge_WTF on March 18, 2014, 05:54:51 AM
I used to do as many reps and sets as some of the pros did after reading Flex until I realized why they did that much work and why they ate as much food as they did.

It's a miracle that I've never had any serious injuries after training for 14 years.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 18, 2014, 08:44:07 AM
You to call someone gypsy, ::) oh-la-la , what colour is 'baby mama' & jr.  ;D
^^
I found them for you Herr Kommandant... =)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 18, 2014, 08:47:58 AM
Another guy that I think trains smart and can be followed is Kai Greene. Minus the 500lbs bench stunts.
lol


Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 09:22:21 AM
I looked at Piana's video wolfing down his huge breakfast of egg whites and oats. "Well, if you ain't growing eat more! 8-10...12 times a day if needed!" This syntholed out roided out oilbag of a middle aged man child who dresses like a 12 yo skater boy and has "adorned" his oil bag with horrid "tattoos", is sitting there preaching to the world with a straight face the biggest lies.

Since when it became "normal" to justify making money by selling lies?

I will gladly stay poor for the rest of this life if this is the price to pay for truth.
comeon sev, you been a trader, everyone does this, lying to make moneys.

banks advising customers to buy this then they counterbet on credit default swaps.haha ;D

if a banker asked me to invest my moneys, id tell him "hey bro if you so sure, do it with your own"

my "investment" goes to whores and women and living the life, its unrecoverably gone, but atleast  had fun with it.

 :D

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Natural Beast on March 18, 2014, 09:28:46 AM
u should lift as heavy as you can handle and as much reps as you can high volume + moderate weights work best for enhanched athletes.. most of the pros dont lift heavy at all... look at top 3 olympians they train like pussies
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 09:36:28 AM
And your word on Dillet?
how light exactly did he train?

and dillet is 1 in million genetics lets not forget that
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 09:47:47 AM
Just been watching a few videos on Youtube. Flex Wheeler, Dillet and Phil Heath. I'm sorry but apart from where Flex lifts the entire stack on the machine Shoulder Press (see for yourself on 'Flex Wheeler Shoulder Attack'), complete with obligatory 4inch range of motion, he lifts the same poundages in the rest of the video that 'I' lift in the gym every day. And his form is ridiculous. Swinging all over the place.

Get your drug stack right, not the training so much. By the looks of it.
maybe he does it with much better muscle contraction.
maybe its just that day,maybe he was dieting harshly, harsh diet will make strenght go down badly at times.
 
maybe he trained very heavy in the years before that and just maintains, cant grow anymore anyway.

just to bring some reality to this thread:

-flex wheeler has done 400lbs incline bench while competition lean.

-phil heath has done 50reps bench with 220lbs without breaking a sweat, like its nothing.

-and im pretty sure i seen pic of dillet handling heavy heavy weights in mags, yeah i seen vids of him where he trains kinda light, but it doesnt mean a thing.

good frend of mine has trained with dennis wolf for 3 months, this frend is,or was, a beast, strong like an ox, and he said he doesnt even come close to wolfs intensity and power in the gym.

they all are very strong, but at one point, the injury risk takes over, they simply maintain what was built long ago.

its true, steroids give you strenght out of the blue sky if diet is ok-ish atleast, that extra strenght will build muscle.
cans til train kinda like a pussy, concentrate on mind muscle or lift heavy, both will work to a degree, but the strenght on gear comes magicaly ,almost by itslef.

ppl rarely consider that those guys are on draining diets often in those vids.

give them 3 days off the gym and all you can eat bufet and then see what they can lift,if they want to.

theres planty guys in my gym lifting same weight as i do,but its not the same lifgting,realy.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: SuperTed on March 18, 2014, 09:50:19 AM
To be fair broski, Paul Dillet was notorious for lifting pussy weights. He still became one of the biggest fucking guys.

If you stimulate the muscle enough, does poundage matter?

I think it matters to an extent.

Put it this way, if you were given a complete newbie to train and where told that you'd get $1 million for every inch of lean muscle you add to his arm, would you just let him continually mess around with the 5-10lb dumbbells or would you progressively get him to lift heavier weights?
After enough reps, even 5lb dumbbells will provide some stimulate, but would it provide the kind that’s required for growth?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 09:50:41 AM
The purpose does NOT excuse the means in my opinion.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 18, 2014, 09:51:33 AM
how light exactly did he train?

and dillet is 1 in million genetics lets not forget that
^^
This is from a witness:   "I cried when I saw this guy train. The vids from the old Olympias were priceless. 4 reps of behind the neck press with 115 pounds and 20 minutes of excuses to why he wouldnt do anymore."
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 18, 2014, 09:53:30 AM
The key to lifting heavy is to lift smart.  Too many idiots bend, twist, swing etc... to get the weights moving and that is where injuries happen.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: MCWAY on March 18, 2014, 11:27:59 AM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"

These morons are responsible for countless injuries and stupid gym and training choices. As a teen, I really believed it because everyone was doing it. But like many others, I felt the need to do "pump" sets to really feel the muscle stimulated properly. Later I realized that "pumping" IS the actual training and the heavy stuff is a weird fetish males have who should try powerlifting.

These liars and con artist basically used our own mind against us. Hmm, sound familiar..

Another thing: "You need LOTS of protein.. can't eat it so shakes are a MUST." Now please shell out a lot of cash for useless powders... ads looked enticing. They should do ads for equipoise, deca and primo.

Lies lies and more lies that are perpetrated today. By summer I will finish a book in english detailing EXACTLY what bodybuilding is, exposing all the lies and detailing the truth everyone can learn from. Including the history.  I do not expect a publishing deal from the Weiders  :D (fucking scumbag liars and conmen like all the liars and snake oil artists that plague this "industry")

Since the Weiders are DEAD, your claim about not getting a publishing deal is pretty much an accurate one.

IF you can eat enough protein to grow, go ahead. But, what happens if you can't. Worrying about Deca and Primo, when you can barely down two steaks, is rather pointless.

Most champs start lifting heavy in their younger years, when the joints and ligaments can take it. Once they get the mass and Father Time makes the knees and elbows a bit more tender, they do the pumping and higher reps thing.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 18, 2014, 11:43:41 AM
Has anyone seen dillet train in the offseason or does this dillet train loke a pussy coming from the couple of weeks out from the o mitsuru videos where he is on the last week(s) of his diet?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 11:46:30 AM
That's true. But I'd still be surprise if they trained with life-threatening amounts of weight. Stimulate the muscle. Whether it takes 10kgs or 100kgs. It's stimulated. It doesn't 'know' what weight you lifted. Why should it care. If you're purely training for strength or brute power, I'd say a strong case could be made for prolonged increase of weight, but for bodybuilding purpose I'm not so sure.

And since I don't bother with drugs any more, I'll probably never know. What I do know is that my legs are knocked the fuck out with DOMS today after medium-heavy weight on the Leg Press for 15-18 reps per set. The same on Hacks after that.
hm, yeah, some do it like sarcev, he trains very light, i actualy train pretty much like he does, i didnt copy him, i found out and was suprised myself.
but i know a person who trained where he trained when he was young, and he told me milos was always naturaly quite strong.

other than that, mmost mass monsters train very heavy, i seen jp fux training, man, he squated 4 plates each side all the way down as if it was just the bar.
other example, 100lbs,thats right, 100lbs dumbells for biceps curls with suprising good form.

also seen him do dips with his bodyweight that was 150kgs haha, thats what 340lbs and some 100lbs attached to the belt.

a very realistic and good example would be hamdullah, he trains chest with never more than 220lbs for 10 slow,focussed reps, this weight is kinda joke, very easy even for me.yet his chest and everything else is bigger than i.
his arm training is a cables, his leg training is light too,and his legs are,well, not unreal but extremly impressive in person, but hes by no means a mass monster.

see, some are strong by n.ature, they have steel-like joints, tendons and everything, adding steroids will make them unbelievably strong

some others have fragile frames but their muscle respond well to stimulation.

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: gracie bjj on March 18, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
who was the guy from the 80,s that did 100 reps a set, i think defendis. johnnie fuller was another 100 reps a set bodybuilder
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 11:52:03 AM
im with you, i used to train heavy  but started to grow much befter i stopped lifting with my ego..but what i think  l one ment is that its all relative, whats heavy weight for someone is lightweight for another (coleman yeah buddyyyy)
lifting heavy and overeating is mandatory for huge size this is hardly up for debate, but can be maintained later on.

the lifting heavy isnt even necesarily what makes one grow, its always the hormones and how each one responds to them, but the heavy lifts strenghten the joints etc, thus, enable for better muscle mind connection later on.

ie better stimulation.

i seen the arguyment, the body doesnt know if its 10 or 100kgs, i dont agree with this, it knows full well, if not,it will LEARN, under heavy weights, the body by default learns to flex harder.

my no homo parnter "no one" said it best, train as hard and heavy you can without blowing bodyparts out.

Dillet was a big, strong professional football player. He didn't get there by being a weakling. He probably had more natural strength than most professional bodybuilders who never competed at that level of "real" professional sports.
ah thx i didnt know that, this means he already had the muscle coordination from real sports, unlike the bafoons who only know injections etc.


Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 11:54:52 AM
Another guy that I think trains smart and can be followed is Kai Greene. Minus the 500lbs bench stunts.
hold on sev, i remember kai doing ,also 2weeks out or so, 400lbs bench for 10 reps

hes training smart no question,but he lifts very heavy
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: MCWAY on March 18, 2014, 11:57:48 AM
lifting heavy and overeating is mandatory for huge size this is hardly up for debate, but can be maintained later on.

the lifting heavy isnt even necesarily what makes one grow, its always the hormones and how each one responds to them, but the heavy lifts strenghten the joints etc, thus, enable for better muscle mind connection later on.

ie better stimulation.

i seen the arguyment, the body doesnt know if its 10 or 100kgs, i dont agree with this, it knows full well, if not,it will LEARN, under heavy weights, the body by default learns to flex harder.

my no homo parnter "no one" said it best, train as hard and heavy you can without blowing bodyparts out.
ah thx i didnt know that, this means he already had the muscle coordination from real sports, unlike the bafoons who only know injections etc.




I would add that "training heavy" means you do the most amount of weight you can WITH THE TARGETED MUSCLE, receiving the stress.

Benching where your chest does the lion's share of the work is a far cry from benching, where you're bouncing the bar off your rib cage, your training partner is pulling up the bar, and your back is arched so high you nearly circumcise yourself on the ceiling fan.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
^^
This is from a witness:   "I cried when I saw this guy train. The vids from the old Olympias were priceless. 4 reps of behind the neck press with 115 pounds and 20 minutes of excuses to why he wouldnt do anymore."
yah but sounds like bad hair day

someone who consistenlty had a chance to see how he trained would be more useful

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 12:06:11 PM
I would add that "training heavy" means you do the most amount of weight you can WITH THE TARGETED MUSCLE, receiving the stress.

Benching where your chest does the lion's share of the work is a far cry from benching, where you're bouncing the bar off your rib cage, your training partner is pulling up the bar, and your back is arched so high you nearly circumcise yourself on the ceiling fan.
haha yeah we see those every day, deformed ribcages, but no pecs ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 18, 2014, 01:11:26 PM
Cleanest natural gradually filling the void left by dj181 as getbigs biggest whinging twat.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 01:19:43 PM
Cleanest natural gradually filling the void left by dj181 as getbigs biggest whinging twat.
I think you claim that title Mr Vagina  ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 18, 2014, 01:21:52 PM
I think you claim that title Mr Vagina  ;)
have you found your contest photos yet?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: njflex on March 18, 2014, 01:23:53 PM
Cleanest natural gradually filling the void left by dj181 as getbigs biggest whinging twat.
depends how you look at it..
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
have you found your contest photos yet?
I don;t have anything remotely close to this display of faggotry  
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 18, 2014, 01:27:28 PM
I don;t have anything remotely close to this display of faggotry  
That guys awesome, do you have that photo saved in a special folder on your PC called "fapping material"?

Try and find the folder entitled, "my old contest photos"
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Antonio fella on March 18, 2014, 01:36:48 PM
maybe he does it with much better muscle contraction.
maybe its just that day,maybe he was dieting harshly, harsh diet will make strenght go down badly at times.
 
maybe he trained very heavy in the years before that and just maintains, cant grow anymore anyway.

just to bring some reality to this thread:

-flex wheeler has done 400lbs incline bench while competition lean.

-phil heath has done 50reps bench with 220lbs without breaking a sweat, like its nothing.

-and im pretty sure i seen pic of dillet handling heavy heavy weights in mags, yeah i seen vids of him where he trains kinda light, but it doesnt mean a thing.

good frend of mine has trained with dennis wolf for 3 months, this frend is,or was, a beast, strong like an ox, and he said he doesnt even come close to wolfs intensity and power in the gym.

they all are very strong, but at one point, the injury risk takes over, they simply maintain what was built long ago.

its true, steroids give you strenght out of the blue sky if diet is ok-ish atleast, that extra strenght will build muscle.
cans til train kinda like a pussy, concentrate on mind muscle or lift heavy, both will work to a degree, but the strenght on gear comes magicaly ,almost by itslef.

ppl rarely consider that those guys are on draining diets often in those vids.

give them 3 days off the gym and all you can eat bufet and then see what they can lift,if they want to.

theres planty guys in my gym lifting same weight as i do,but its not the same lifgting,realy.

Did u see Phil's jerking 3" moves while he was doing those 50? Lol he did more like 20... Full reps
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 18, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
I don;t have anything remotely close to this display of faggotry  
your physique doesnt come remotely close either
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 18, 2014, 01:40:33 PM
Did u see Phil's jerking 3" moves while he was doing those 50? Lol he did more like 20... Full reps
nah they have been good enough to demonstrate the strenght.

he did them fast bc muscle will start to burn after a while

i dont see mayn ppl doing that
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 18, 2014, 01:54:57 PM
your physique doesnt come remotely close either
He needs to try another approach, posting pics of people who destroy him isnt working now people can see through his facade.
Maybe I should post a video of me with a tennis racket returning someones serve?
Then again returning a serve isn't something he was all that familiar with himself when he was a "pro" his last three matches he only won 4 games out of 36 (6-0 6-0, 6-0 6-2, 6-2 6-0)
http://www.atpstats.info/en/players/profile.php?idp=13002
http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Cristian_Florentin_Voinea/Sebastian_Ivascu-Singera/
http://www.stevegtennis.com/profile-bio/men/Sebastian_Ivascu-Singera/
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 18, 2014, 02:02:01 PM
He needs to try another approach, posting pics of people who destroy him isnt working now people can see through his facade.
Maybe I should post a video of me with a tennis racket returning someones serve?
Then again returning a serve isn't something he was all that familiar with himself when he was a "pro" his last three matches he only won 2 games out of 18 (6-0, 6-2, 6-0)
remember he thinks he destroys this guy

(http://i.imgur.com/QI75AwY.jpg)
(http://www.cutandjacked.com/sites/default/files/images/interviews_men/Simeon_Panda/simeon panda scr10.jpg)

(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936837_510143572381661_302312289_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: FermiDirac on March 18, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
He needs to try another approach, posting pics of people who destroy him isnt working now people can see through his facade.
Maybe I should post a video of me with a tennis racket returning someones serve?
Then again returning a serve isn't something he was all that familiar with himself when he was a "pro" his last three matches he only won 2 games out of 18 (6-0, 6-2, 6-0)

To be fair, he (said?) that he had started playing tennis 3 years prior to his competing level, which in itself is astounding if it's true.
I started playing tennis when I was 6, but quit somewhere around 16-17. I simply wasn't cut for tennis at competing levels. The amount of time and effort you need to put in the game to excel are mindboggingly disgustingly much.

So I can honestly say that calling him out for getting crushed is on the par of calling out a Sunday jogger for not outpacing a 100m sprinter.
Real pro tennis players are on a different planet. The difference between a pro player and a good player in tennis is way bigger than the difference between a female ballet dancer and an IFBB male pro.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 18, 2014, 02:15:56 PM
To be fair, he (said?) that he had started playing tennis 3 years prior to his competing level, which in itself is astounding if it's true.
I started playing tennis when I was 6, but quit somewhere around 16-17. I simply wasn't cut for tennis at competing levels. The amount of time and effort you need to put in the game to excel are mindboggingly disgustingly much.

So I can honestly say that calling him out for getting crushed is on the par of calling out a Sunday jogger for not outpacing a 100m sprinter.
Real pro tennis players are on a different planet. The difference between a pro player and a good player in tennis is way bigger than the difference between a female ballet dancer and an IFBB male pro.

Yep, if true.
He may call himself a pro tennis player but his stats show he was someone who didnt work and played tennis.

He wasnt a player who made a living out of playing tennis.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: King Shizzo on March 18, 2014, 02:35:48 PM
haha another "conclusion" from a gimmick. I'm just having fun and love to share and listen to people who have something to say.


People like Menspa Bob, wolfcox, shitso, chimps etc are here just to shoot the shit that's why they stay anonimous and have zero to contribute bb wise
Lol! I wish I was anonymous  :D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: wes on March 18, 2014, 03:02:58 PM
Lol! I wish I was anonymous  :D
How come?  :D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 18, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
To be fair, he (said?) that he had started playing tennis 3 years prior to his competing level, which in itself is astounding if it's true.
I started playing tennis when I was 6, but quit somewhere around 16-17. I simply wasn't cut for tennis at competing levels. The amount of time and effort you need to put in the game to excel are mindboggingly disgustingly much.

So I can honestly say that calling him out for getting crushed is on the par of calling out a Sunday jogger for not outpacing a 100m sprinter.
Real pro tennis players are on a different planet. The difference between a pro player and a good player in tennis is way bigger than the difference between a female ballet dancer and an IFBB male pro.
My goal is to play a main draw in a pro tournament meaning 15000$ Futures .. I wanted to compete at that level.. after that I quit abruptly and played squash non stop up the amateur ranks.. then it was back to bodybuilding and so forth.. I also layed A level raqutball, second division basketball and sang onstage at the musical theatre for a Christmas Special  :D


The ATP stats show only my last 3 matches for some reason.. years ago I posted a draw from a tournament
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sososue on March 19, 2014, 01:15:10 AM
My goal is to play a main draw in a pro tournament meaning 15000$ Futures .. I wanted to compete at that level.. after that I quit abruptly and played squash non stop up the amateur ranks.. then it was back to bodybuilding and so forth.. I also layed A level raqutball, second division basketball and sang onstage at the musical theatre for a Christmas Special  :D


The ATP stats show only my last 3 matches for some reason.. years ago I posted a draw from a tournament
So your goal was to play in a main draw, you didnt achieve that.
I quit abruptly (I wasnt good enough)
I played Squash in the amateur ranks (unsuccessfully)
Back to bodybuilding (Lol, you have never been a bodybuilder)
I played A level raquetball (wasnt really any good at that either)
And plaayed basketball (with my mates)
I sang onstage (because I think Im good at everything when in fact I suck)

Sev, have you ever really done anything properly?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sososue on March 19, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
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The ATP stats show only my last 3 matches for some reason..
Care to share your career stats with us, Im sure someone as bigheaded as you has them written down somewhere.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 19, 2014, 02:27:50 AM
Even if i was a worthless tennisprofor just one week back in the day i would still use otnto impress the chicks in the bar  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: bigmc on March 19, 2014, 03:14:29 AM
Even if i was a worthless tennisprofor just one week back in the day i would still use otnto impress the chicks in the bar  ;D

exactly

its not like sev is saying he was regularly beating Pete sampras
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 19, 2014, 03:24:03 AM
exactly

its not like sev is saying he was regularly beating Pete sampras
nope, pretty impressive to just be a pro, not many can say that.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 19, 2014, 03:25:28 AM
sev serious question: how old where you when you stopped playing at the pro level and why?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sososue on March 19, 2014, 04:39:42 AM
sev serious question: how old where you when you stopped playing at the pro level and why?

and how do you turn pro?
Do you have to qualify?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: bigmc on March 19, 2014, 04:44:08 AM
and how do you turn pro?
Do you have to qualify?

you just have to say you are one

im serious
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 04:48:53 AM
So your goal was to play in a main draw, you didnt achieve that.
I quit abruptly (I wasnt good enough)
I played Squash in the amateur ranks (unsuccessfully)
Back to bodybuilding (Lol, you have never been a bodybuilder)
I played A level raquetball (wasnt really any good at that either)
And plaayed basketball (with my mates)
I sang onstage (because I think Im good at everything when in fact I suck)

Sev, have you ever really done anything properly?

At least I did your mom properly  :)


and please list your athletic achievements.. I am sure you must have been a "succesful" pro in at least one sport
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 04:53:09 AM
sev serious question: how old where you when you stopped playing at the pro level and why?
Touring can be expensive but fun.. I lost interest, I proved myself what I wanted to prove and moved on with a new challenge. I could not see myself live that repetitive robotic lifestyle. I will not say what could have been but was content with playing at that level.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sososue on March 19, 2014, 05:03:16 AM
At least I did your mom properly  :)


and please list your athletic achievements.. I am sure you must have been a "succesful" pro in at least one sport

I have no athletic achievements, thats why I dont brag about them.
You should do the same, because essentially we are the same.
You throw out wild cklaims hoping people will take you seriously, you may have been have technically been a pro tennis player but its in name only, you couldnt play all that well as your stats show.

Now try and accept the fact that you are a nobody with mediocre talents like 99% of the worlds population and let the 1% bask in their earned glory.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 05:07:07 AM
I have no athletic achievements, thats why I dont brag about them.
You should do the same, because essentially we are the same.
You throw out wild cklaims hoping people will take you seriously, you may have been have technically been a pro tennis player but its in name only, you couldnt play all that well as your stats show.

Now try and accept the fact that you are a nobody with mediocre talents like 99% of the worlds population and let the 1% bask in their earned glory.
Well, you see... that's exactly it. I am NOT like the other 99% or like you or whomever. You need to accept your own shortcomings in life and realize that some are just born with more skill and talent and work harder and manage more in life than you. I think my biggest nightmare would be to be you  :D

I am very proud of what I did and am also very realistic about it.

You should look inside yourself and find what is bothering you so much about yourself that I reflect in order for you to follow me around like a lost puppy trying to bring me down to your parent's basement every time you get, even though I never addresed you since you registered.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: bigmc on March 19, 2014, 05:08:48 AM
Well, you see... that's exactly it. I am NOT like the other 99% or like you or whomever. You need to accept your own shortcomings in life and realize that some are just born with more skill and talent and work harder and manage more in life than you. I think my biggest nightmare would be to be you  :D

I am very proud of what I did and am also very realistic about it.

You should look inside yourself and find what is bothering you so much about yourself that I reflect in order for you to follow me around like a lost puppy trying to bring me down to your parent's basement every time you get, even though I never addresed you since you registered.

if you ever come to the uk sev

we can play a few sets of tennis

im relatively shit but can serve at well over 100 miles per hour
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 05:11:15 AM
if you ever come to the uk sev

we can play a few sets of tennis

im relatively shit but can serve at well over 100 miles per hour
most definetly, believe it or not, I have never been to UK

I used to play handicapped sets with friends all the time as I was very competitive and loved strategy and doing the mental math

I'd definetly meet you, bigcyp and skorp1o
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 19, 2014, 05:21:40 AM
Touring can be expensive but fun.. I lost interest, I proved myself what I wanted to prove and moved on with a new challenge. I could not see myself live that repetitive robotic lifestyle. I will not say what could have been but was content with playing at that level.
cool thanks
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sososue on March 19, 2014, 05:23:00 AM
Well, you see... that's exactly it. I am NOT like the other 99% or like you or whomever. You need to accept your own shortcomings in life and realize that some are just born with more skill and talent and work harder and manage more in life than you. I think my biggest nightmare would be to be you  :D

I am very proud of what I did and am also very realistic about it.

You should look inside yourself and find what is bothering you so much about yourself that I reflect in order for you to follow me around like a lost puppy trying to bring me down to your parent's basement every time you get, even though I never addresed you since you registered.
Lo, but you are, your ego just wont allow you to admit it.
Show us your trophy cabinet if you are this successful athlete.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 05:49:46 AM
Lo, but you are, your ego just wont allow you to admit it.
Show us your trophy cabinet if you are this successful athlete.
Are you serious? haha

I never kept any "trophies". Sometimes I forget I even played sports. I have not played serious tennis in years. Right now I am working on owning you and 90% of getbig.

I am amused how you keep trying to get a raise out of me while I indulge your idiocy  ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: sososue on March 19, 2014, 05:59:13 AM
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Right now I am working on owning you and 90% of getbig.

Dont you mean "trolling and pretending Im something Im not"?

Careful Sev, people will stop taking anything you say seriously if you persist.  ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 19, 2014, 07:15:40 AM
yah but sounds like bad hair day

someone who consistenlty had a chance to see how he trained would be more useful


^^
I remember John Romano said he (Dillet) trained light on a consistent basis, he contest prepped him.
He said he was EXTREMELY gifted genetically, and lots of GOOD gear...
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
Dont you mean "trolling and pretending Im something Im not"?

Careful Sev, people will stop taking anything you say seriously if you persist.  ;)
yawn .. you are obviously weak at this

no trolling here.. I'll just post a pic and BOOM! you will realize yet again your inferiority
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 11:12:33 AM
Touring can be expensive but fun.. I lost interest, I proved myself what I wanted to prove and moved on with a new challenge. I could not see myself live that repetitive robotic lifestyle. I will not say what could have been but was content with playing at that level.
6-0, 6-0
6-2, 6-0
6-0, 6-2

Epic level.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 19, 2014, 11:18:22 AM
man,sev, at stand of 6:0 and 4:0 in second set, id have pretended an injury or went to toilet and never came back ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 11:40:36 AM
man,sev, at stand of 6:0 and 4:0 in second set, id have pretended an injury or went to toilet and never came back ;D
I was playing my first match on clay after years of hard exclusively. I also serve and volley and did not have a good day obviously. I also beat players ranked as high as 600something so .. but with me it was always concentration: I focused and played well or it was a white wash ... attacking non stop on a bad day is a recipe for disaster  ;D especially with a good returner on clay.

As I said, I got beat badly in those three matches but they do not stand out in my mind as defining for all the matches I ever played obviously. It is no shame in losing by the way.

If anyone has an issue with my "level" and wants to challenge me to prove I am a hack, put some money on it and let's go  ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 19, 2014, 11:41:50 AM
there is no shame in being a loser sev ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 11:42:54 AM
there is no shame in being a loser sev ;)
wise words from your old man, huh?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: hazbin on March 19, 2014, 12:13:21 PM
there is no shame in being a loser sev ;)

it's not bad once you get use to it!!
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: bigmc on March 19, 2014, 12:16:22 PM
6-0, 6-0
6-2, 6-0
6-0, 6-2

Epic level.

 8)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: galeniko on March 19, 2014, 12:58:26 PM
I was playing my first match on clay after years of hard exclusively. I also serve and volley and did not have a good day obviously. I also beat players ranked as high as 600something so .. but with me it was always concentration: I focused and played well or it was a white wash ... attacking non stop on a bad day is a recipe for disaster  ;D especially with a good returner on clay.

As I said, I got beat badly in those three matches but they do not stand out in my mind as defining for all the matches I ever played obviously. It is no shame in losing by the way.

If anyone has an issue with my "level" and wants to challenge me to prove I am a hack, put some money on it and let's go  ;)
its not too bad, i mean federer i think was once destroyed by nadal 6:0 6:3 6:0, something like that, this doesnt make federer a bad player ;D

and bjorn borg said you dont learn nothing from defeat,you learn from lost matches.

maybe you can try a comeback? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:18:58 PM
man,sev, at stand of 6:0 and 4:0 in second set, id have pretended an injury or went to toilet and never came back ;D

lol
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
So your goal was to play in a main draw, you didnt achieve that.
I quit abruptly (I wasnt good enough)
I played Squash in the amateur ranks (unsuccessfully)
Back to bodybuilding (Lol, you have never been a bodybuilder)
I played A level raquetball (wasnt really any good at that either)
And plaayed basketball (with my mates)
I sang onstage (because I think Im good at everything when in fact I suck)

Sev, have you ever really done anything properly?


bwahahaha got give him credit for trying doe. Bwhahaha
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 01:23:22 PM
its not too bad, i mean federer i think was once destroyed by nadal 6:0 6:3 6:0, something like that, this doesnt make federer a bad player ;D

and bjorn borg said you dont learn nothing from defeat,you learn from lost matches.

maybe you can try a comeback? ;D ;D
I thought about playing qualies again for the fun of competing. But it takes a lot of training and honestly I don't feel like proving myself anything. I am content with the tennis I have played. Anyone wants to talk smack can meet me on court with cash and I'd love to be shown up by anyone here. Anything they want, basketball 1-1, squash, raquetball etc  :D .. I can also play pretty decent table tennis.

Here on getbig people use words to compete. In real life it does not work this way. Also here, all the shit talkers look like...well, shit .. maybe that's why they want to remain anonymous
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:26:16 PM
nope, pretty impressive to just be a pro, not many can say that.

Not really. Anyone can be a pro in a 3rd world country.

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 19, 2014, 01:27:15 PM
I thought about playing qualies again for the fun of competing. But it takes a lot of training and honestly I don't feel like proving myself anything. I am content with the tennis I have played. Anyone wants to talk smack can meet me on court with cash and I'd love to be shown up by anyone here. Anything they want, basketball 1-1, squash, raquetball etc  :D .. I can also play pretty decent table tennis.

Here on getbig people use words to compete. In real life it does not work this way. Also here, all the shit talkers look like...well, shit .. maybe that's why they want to remain anonymous

I'll challenge you to one set of badminton. Won't be any time soon as I'm on the edge of the world for the next 9 months. I'll let you decide the amount. If I win I'll give the entire amount to a Romanian charity of your choice. As long as it's an animal charity.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 01:31:27 PM
I'll challenge you to one set of badminton. Won't be any time soon as I'm on the edge of the world for the next 9 months. I'll let you decide the amount. If I win I'll give the entire amount to charity to a Romanian charity of your choice. As long as it's an animal charity.
I have never played badminton. If you were a competitive badminton player, I'd obviously not bet money playing you. If you were some dude who played for fun and never trained for it or you trained but have the cordonation skills of Paul Dillet then I'd definetly play you.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:34:14 PM
Now that we know how bad Sev sucked as a bottom tier tennis wannabe in some irrelevant country it makes his claims of being able to move to LA and instantly find a job coaching and demanding 6 figures all the more funny.

Sevs 'career' as a tennis 'pro' was the boxing equivalent to your talentless club boxer who all the no-names on the local circuit used to pad their record.

haha sev couldn't even compete at the high school level here in America.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:37:42 PM
Sev is the type of talentless twat that looks for shows with no contestants in it so he could place #1 .

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 01:37:53 PM
I was playing my first match on clay after years of hard exclusively. I also serve and volley and did not have a good day obviously. I also beat players ranked as high as 600something so .. but with me it was always concentration: I focused and played well or it was a white wash ... attacking non stop on a bad day is a recipe for disaster  ;D especially with a good returner on clay.

As I said, I got beat badly in those three matches but they do not stand out in my mind as defining for all the matches I ever played obviously. It is no shame in losing by the way.

If anyone has an issue with my "level" and wants to challenge me to prove I am a hack, put some money on it and let's go  ;)

Sev, there is no record of any other matches, why is that.
ATP tennis rankings show you with zero stats, why is that?

Sev, I think you only played 3 matches, got annihilated and gave up.

The link says last 10 matches, and shows three

http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Cristian_Florentin_Voinea/Sebastian_Ivascu-Singera/
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 01:39:39 PM
Sev, there is no record of any other matches, why is that.
ATP tennis rankings show you with zero stats, why is that?

Sev, I think you only played 3 matches, got annihilated and gave up.

The link says last 10 matches, and shows three

http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Cristian_Florentin_Voinea/Sebastian_Ivascu-Singera/
you are trying too hard
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 19, 2014, 01:40:43 PM
I have never played badminton. If you were a competitive badminton player, I'd obviously not bet money playing you. If you were some dude who played for fun and never trained for it or you trained but have the cordonation skills of Paul Dillet then I'd definetly play you.

Yes but the charity will win. I used to be a junior national player in England but haven't played for 10 years now. With there being no future in badminton as an English player, and my coaches wanting me to stop the weight training, it was a no brainer to quit and throw myself wholly into the Cult of the Thong.

I can't play anything else to remotely competitive level.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 01:41:34 PM
I thought about playing qualies again for the fun of competing. But it takes a lot of training and honestly I don't feel like proving myself anything. I am content with the tennis I have played. Anyone wants to talk smack can meet me on court with cash and I'd love to be shown up by anyone here. Anything they want, basketball 1-1, squash, raquetball etc  :D .. I can also play pretty decent table tennis.

Here on getbig people use words to compete. In real life it does not work this way. Also here, all the shit talkers look like...well, shit .. maybe that's why they want to remain anonymous
Sev, you look like shit for 98% of the year.
Stop posting relaxed pics from 6 years ago.
Hopefully we will see some good pics from your recent comeback.  :o
Make sure you take photos of all the 7 mandatory compulsory bodybuilding poses.
The ones you claimed Simone Panda looked shit in.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 01:42:37 PM
Yes but the charity will win. I used to be a junior national player in England but haven't played for 10 years now. With there being no future in badminton as an English player, and my coaches wanting me to stop the weight training, it was a no brainer to quit and throw myself wholly into the Cult of the Thong.

I can't play anything else to remotely competitive level.
You'd beat me easily. No matter how long your lay off.. badminton also needs sick fitness like squash
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:43:06 PM
man,sev, at stand of 6:0 and 4:0 in second set, id have pretended an injury or went to toilet and never came back ;D

He should have torn his achilles on purpose to save face  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 01:43:46 PM
haha wolfcocks .. ragging on my tennis
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 01:44:32 PM
haha wolfcocks .. ragging on my tennis

No disrespect mate but anyone on here could likely take a set off you based on your stats.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:46:43 PM
I was playing my first match on clay after years of hard exclusively. .

If anyone has an issue with my "level" and wants to challenge me to prove I am a hack, put some money on it and let's go  ;)

Relax sev, the last challenge you issued resulted in you being bedridden.  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 19, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
No disrespect mate but anyone on here could likely take a set off you based on your stats.

It's harder than it looks. I'd say it'll be neigh on impossible to take even a game off a remotely decent player. You'll double fault your serves and if you managed to snag one in, get hammered anyway. And when the serve changes, you're fucked.

I've tried.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 19, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
Now that we know how bad Sev sucked as a bottom tier tennis wannabe in some irrelevant country it makes his claims of being able to move to LA and instantly find a job coaching and demanding 6 figures all the more funny.

Sevs 'career' as a tennis 'pro' was the boxing equivalent to your talentless club boxer who all the no-names on the local circuit used to pad their record.

haha sev couldn't even compete at the high school level here in America.
meanwhile he is eating like shit and day dreaming of "filet mignon and fresh salmon"
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 01:49:24 PM
No disrespect mate but anyone on here could likely take a set off you based on your stats.
See, this shows you have no clue what you are talking about. Also it's a weak attempt at trolling. You got laughed off here and came back with a vengeance  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:52:51 PM
Now that we know how bad Sev sucked as a bottom tier tennis wannabe in some irrelevant country it makes his claims of being able to move to LA and instantly find a job coaching and demanding 6 figures all the more funny.

Sevs 'career' as a tennis 'pro' was the boxing equivalent to your talentless club boxer who all the no-names on the local circuit used to pad their record.

haha sev couldn't even compete at the high school level here in America.

The only job Sev could land in America coaching would be at the local innercity ymca....






that is untill the parents and kids run a background check on google and see his atrocious tennis record.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 01:53:21 PM
It's harder than it looks. I'd say it'll be neigh on impossible to take even a game off a remotely decent player. You'll double fault your serves and if you managed to snag one in, get hammered anyway. And when the serve changes, you're fucked.

I've tried.
Haha, see, now I know you played raquet sport for real. It always amused me because people think there are going to be "rallies"

In reality, the serve would blast past them without even a reaction and IF they get a pop tart serve in it'd get hammered away. Like for example I would probably take a point off of you in badminton if you make an unforced error  ;D

Maybe if I meet galeniko we'll play and videotape it. Between my bad back and thorn achilean and his surgeries it'll be a very competitive geriatric contest
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 01:56:27 PM
Haha, see, now I know you played raquet sport for real. It always amused me because people think there are going to be "rallies"

In reality, the serve would blast past them without even a reaction and IF they get a pop tart serve in it'd get hammered away.
Like for example I would probably take a point off of you in badminton if you make an unforced error  ;D

Maybe if I meet galeniko we'll play and videotape it. Between my bad back and thorn achilean and his surgeries it'll be a very competitive geriatric contest

As you found to your cost in the three matches you played, tell me Sev, have you EVER broke someones serve?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 19, 2014, 01:58:32 PM
Haha, see, now I know you played raquet sport for real. It always amused me because people think there are going to be "rallies"

In reality, the serve would blast past them without even a reaction and IF they get a pop tart serve in it'd get hammered away. Like for example I would probably take a point off of you in badminton if you make an unforced error  ;D

Maybe if I meet galeniko we'll play and videotape it. Between my bad back and thorn achilean and his surgeries it'll be a very competitive geriatric contest

110% this.

Even going from badminton to tennis would make it impossible to take a point. Purely because I'll play with a wrist action and my movement will be clumsy as I'll automatically take badminton stances. I'll have zero chance. Unless you make unforced errors.

I know people are ribbing you on here but on a tennis court, regardless of those last 3 matches, they'll spend the whole match picking up balls.

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 01:59:57 PM
How can you call yourself a pro when you've never even won a match ?   ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 02:01:38 PM
As you found to your cost in the three matches you played, tell me Sev, have you EVER broke someones serve?
Sev is having flashbacks of that awful clay surface he was not accustomed to.

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 02:02:10 PM
110% this.

Even going from badminton to tennis would make it impossible to take a point. Purely because I'll play with a wrist action and my movement will be clumsy as I'll automatically take badminton stances. I'll have zero chance. Unless you make unforced errors.

I know people are ribbing you on here but on a tennis court, regardless of those last 3 matches, they'll spend the whole match picking up balls.


I have made the transition from one sport to another not once but several times .. you don't wake up one day playing basketball even at a low level.. it just takes a lot of work no matter how talented one is

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 02:02:30 PM
How can you call yourself a pro when you've never even won a match ?   ;D
Im a pro tennis player.

See, piece of piss.

Maybe he meant to tell us here was a "poor" tennis player and it was just a typo.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
I have made the transition from one sport to another not once but several times .. you don't wake up one day playing basketball even at a low level.. it just takes a lot of work no matter how talented one is


"I have never been any good at anything I have ever done but if I keep jumping around from sport to sport I may get lucky"

Fixed
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 02:04:33 PM
As you found to your cost in the three matches you played, tell me Sev, have you EVER broke someones serve?
haha .. listen you G Stringed Fairy .. better never to have broken a serve than bare backing it like this  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: anabolichalo on March 19, 2014, 02:05:19 PM
haha .. listen you G Stringed Fairy .. better never to have broken a serve than bare backing it like this  ;D
the guy in the pic mops the floor with your third world shitbody
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 02:08:31 PM
I have made the transition from one sport to another not once but several times .. you don't wake up one day playing basketball even at a low level.. it just takes a lot of work no matter how talented one is



You made those transitions because YOU SUCKED.
Youve been looking your whole life for something youre good at but you just need to accept the fact that YOU SUCK. Accept this fact before you go and tear your other achilles.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 02:10:06 PM
haha .. listen you G Stringed Fairy .. better never to have broken a serve than bare backing it like this  ;D

Jokes on you gimp...that fairy's physique puts yours to absolute shame. 
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 02:11:09 PM
You made those transitions because YOU SUCKED.
Youve been looking your whole life for something youre good at but you just need to accept the fact that YOU SUCK. Accept this fact before you go and tear your other achilles.
:D

what makes you, the other gay ukfeff, analhalo so enraged when my name is mentioned? is it just low self esteem? broke back dreams?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 02:13:38 PM
:D

what makes you, the other gay ukfeff, analhalo so enraged when my name is mentioned? is it just low self esteem? broke back dreams?

Youre a delusional mouthy girl that needs to know his place.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
My tennis days are gone. It's bodybuilding now. Who wants to compete against me in bodybuilding? the g string grampa? the bicepeless wonder?  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 02:16:20 PM
My tennis days are gone.

You never had any "tennis days". You never even won a match.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 02:16:36 PM
Youre a delusional mouthy girl that needs to know his place.
I'd take you seriously but you lack a bicepes completely, look like shit, are unnemployed, self admitted bipolar and depressive. So..  :-\
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: bigmc on March 19, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
I'd take you seriously but you lack a bicepes completely, look like shit, are unnemployed, self admitted bipolar and depressive. So..  :-\

just ignore him

he has been reduced to quoting himself in this thread

that is the most pathetic thing i have ever seen

talk about needy  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 02:42:18 PM
just ignore him

he has been reduced to quoting himself in this thread

that is the most pathetic thing i have ever seen

talk about needy  ;D
is he a real person?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
My tennis days are gone. It's bodybuilding now. Who wants to compete against me in bodybuilding? the g string grampa? the bicepeless wonder?  ;D
I thought you were a bodybuilder before you played tennis, you know, when you competed in a bodybuilding contest??

Still waiting thonged pics.  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: bigmc on March 19, 2014, 02:47:18 PM
is he a real person?

its hard to imagine someone being that beta

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: ismoseppo on March 19, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
whos the g string grampa
and whos the bicepless wonder


i know im the limpdick shitstain  :D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 02:58:54 PM
whos the g string grampa
and whos the bicepless wonder


i know im the limpdick shitstain  :D
The g string grandpa is the legendary ukjeff who owned all minds here until he finally ended up in time out
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 19, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
The g string grandpa is the legendary ukjeff who owned all minds here until he finally ended up in time out

Is he the guy in the photo that looks like he's either taking a shit or pulling a face?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Wolfox on March 19, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
its hard to imagine someone being that beta



I dunno we have you with your beta tattoos, beta arms, beta fatbody, and not to mention your beta profession of cleaning up other peoples toilet shit.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 19, 2014, 03:33:32 PM
Is he the guy in the photo that looks like he's either taking a shit or pulling a face?
No ,hes getting a prostate massage from the chick.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: James28 on March 19, 2014, 03:37:55 PM
No ,hes getting a prostate massage from the chick.

Not my thing but I hear some 'men' enjoy that?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: ChristopherA on March 19, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
My tennis days are gone. It's bodybuilding now. Who wants to compete against me in bodybuilding? the g string grampa? the bicepeless wonder?  ;D
The "g string grandpa" absolutely destroys your build, are you kidding me? Not even fucking remotely close
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Oly15 on March 19, 2014, 04:51:29 PM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"

These morons are responsible for countless injuries and stupid gym and training choices. As a teen, I really believed it because everyone was doing it. But like many others, I felt the need to do "pump" sets to really feel the muscle stimulated properly. Later I realized that "pumping" IS the actual training and the heavy stuff is a weird fetish males have who should try powerlifting.

These liars and con artist basically used our own mind against us. Hmm, sound familiar..

Another thing: "You need LOTS of protein.. can't eat it so shakes are a MUST." Now please shell out a lot of cash for useless powders... ads looked enticing. They should do ads for equipoise, deca and primo.

Lies lies and more lies that are perpetrated today. By summer I will finish a book in english detailing EXACTLY what bodybuilding is, exposing all the lies and detailing the truth everyone can learn from. Including the history.

This needs to be put at the entry of every training forum. People assume pump sets means pussy weight and a million reps. It just means lift a weight that you can feel the muscle contracting and fatiguing the muscle. Not your nervous system and joints.

And the next thing people dont understand is that whatever weight you do these pump sets with, sooner or later these pump sets will be too easy and then you move up in weight, and get a new level of contraction for the heavier weight which requires more blood and tissue.....
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: King Shizzo on March 19, 2014, 05:42:42 PM
This needs to be put at the entry of every training forum. People assume pump sets means pussy weight and a million reps. It just means lift a weight that you can feel the muscle contracting and fatiguing the muscle. Not your nervous system and joints.

And the next thing people dont understand is that whatever weight you do these pump sets with, sooner or later these pump sets will be too easy and then you move up in weight, and get a new level of contraction for the heavier weight which requires more blood and tissue.....
Solid post. 500 pound squats/350 pound benches do nothing physique wise.

They are just to show off, and increase the chance of injury.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 19, 2014, 06:03:09 PM
Solid post. 500 pound squats/350 pound benches do nothing physique wise.

They are just to show off, and increase the chance of injury.


Jesus stay out of training threads....you don't even work out.

And you wonder why
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2014, 06:06:52 PM

Jesus stay out of training threads....you don't even work out.

And you wonder why
u mean shizzo dosen't peak your interest on bettering your physique in one swift post?
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 19, 2014, 06:08:36 PM

Jesus stay out of training threads....you don't even work out.

And you wonder why

Rofl yes I'm sure he's very familiar with what a 350 bench and 500 squat can do for one's physique ;D


All jokes aside, that's an incredible photo of ukjeff.  Tremendous development & conditioning.  Maybe the best physique ever posted on getbig
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2014, 06:17:04 PM
Rofl yes I'm sure he's very familiar with what a 350 bench and 500 squat can do for one's physique ;D


All jokes aside, that's an incredible photo of ukjeff.  Tremendous development & conditioning.  Maybe the best physique ever posted on getbig
big ro..uk is there but ro is new breed..
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: sagittal chest on March 19, 2014, 06:20:48 PM
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights". -Ronnie Coleman (8 time Mr. Olympia)

/thread
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: NightTrain on March 19, 2014, 06:27:08 PM
a middle aged man child who dresses like a 12 yo skater boy

Brutal being 5 years behind the trendy curve of fhasion of peace while rotting in Easterm Europa of nothingness...

The term "skater boys" hasn't been used since April LaveinykAUK  was finally stfu.  8)

But I get your wiff chief and it's garlicy... can't blame you with Vlad the Empaler lurking at every tennis court corner just waiting for a poor player to bend over and pick up a ball.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 19, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
big ro..uk is there but ro is new breed..

Nah....bigro is bigger, but in terms of proportion/aesthetics ukjeff beats him.  I dare say he's more conditioned too, but that's difficult to compare when the lighting is different
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 19, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
LOL at people trying SO HARD to hurt Sev's feelings.

Fucking guy played tennis , what the fuck have you assholes ever done ?  Besides run your fucking mouth online  
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: NightTrain on March 19, 2014, 06:48:41 PM
LOL at people trying SO HARD to hurt Sev's feelings.

Fucking guy played tennis , what the fuck have you assholes ever done ?  Besides run your fucking mouth online  

I've pleasured a LOT of cocks... all shapes, sizes and colors. Not bragging just stating it the way it is. I'm sure Sebastian has as well but I doubt he can measure up. Afterall he does play Tenns and workswith  retards which are both admirable but cuts into his cock handling hours... gotta put your priorities straight...
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2014, 06:50:49 PM
LOL at people trying SO HARD to hurt Sev's feelings.

Fucking guy played tennis , what the fuck have you assholes ever done ?  Besides run your fucking mouth online  
i like u and sev's bromance,perhaps a candlelight dinner for 2 at a nice resteraunt,or spa weekend some nice ones in az,,,
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 19, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
I've pleasured a LOT of cocks... all shapes, sizes and colors. Not bragging just stating it the way it is. I'm sure Sebastian has as well but I doubt he can measure up. Afterall he does play Tenns and workswith  retards which are both admirable but cuts into his cock handling hours... gotta put your priorities straight...

Come on Al....you know that wasnt at you...HA

.

Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 19, 2014, 08:05:25 PM
i like u and sev's bromance,perhaps a candlelight dinner for 2 at a nice resteraunt,or spa weekend some nice ones in az,,,

Ha ha.

Seriously these guys are really ripping him because he didnt make it in tennis.

I guess every fuckhead here who played organized football and baseball...but didnt go pro...is a fucking douchebag loser and deserves to be ridiculed.



Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2014, 08:07:19 PM
Ha ha.

Seriously these guys are really ripping him because he didnt make it in tennis.

I guess every fuckhead here who played organized football and baseball...but didnt go pro...is a fucking douchebag loser and deserves to be ridiculed.




like bbing 1 in a million ,,unless your connected or blowing someone then less talent might get u somewhere..
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: NightTrain on March 19, 2014, 08:09:57 PM
Come on Al....you know that wasnt at you...HA


fuck, gotta tune my sarcasm machine... sending mixed msgs unintendedly.. .huge Effer-Cleanest fan here ;D
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 19, 2014, 09:03:33 PM
Ha ha.

Seriously these guys are really ripping him because he didnt make it in tennis.

I guess every fuckhead here who played organized football and baseball...but didnt go pro...is a fucking douchebag loser and deserves to be ridiculed.

Well, sev seems to have a very high opinion of his athletic talent... which is fine, but that'll open anyone up to criticism on here. 

You should know ;D
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: old-school-lifter on March 19, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
"All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights"

These morons are responsible for countless injuries and stupid gym and training choices. As a teen, I really believed it because everyone was doing it. But like many others, I felt the need to do "pump" sets to really feel the muscle stimulated properly. Later I realized that "pumping" IS the actual training and the heavy stuff is a weird fetish males have who should try powerlifting.

These liars and con artist basically used our own mind against us. Hmm, sound familiar..

Another thing: "You need LOTS of protein.. can't eat it so shakes are a MUST." Now please shell out a lot of cash for useless powders... ads looked enticing. They should do ads for equipoise, deca and primo.

Lies lies and more lies that are perpetrated today. By summer I will finish a book in english detailing EXACTLY what bodybuilding is, exposing all the lies and detailing the truth everyone can learn from. Including the history.

very good + accurate post
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 10:54:32 PM
Well, sev seems to have a very high opinion of his athletic talent... which is fine, but that'll open anyone up to criticism on here. 

You should know ;D
compared to someone like you or the other hacks I do. Nowadays I can barely walk though. I struggle to walk to the gym or stand up for a an hour or even to sit down. So I will take the challenges bodybuilding wise.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 19, 2014, 10:57:17 PM
Is he the guy in the photo that looks like he's either taking a shit or pulling a face?
yes .. can you imagine this awkward fella ragging on your athletic feats?  ;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: MCWAY on March 20, 2014, 08:58:01 PM
haha yeah we see those every day, deformed ribcages, but no pecs ;D

Do the "collar to collar" bench press, particularly on the Smith machine (or on a regular bench with a spotter). You'll definitely hit the chest, even with moderate weight.

I call them "Leroys" after this man:

Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: ChristopherA on March 20, 2014, 09:32:38 PM
yes .. can you imagine this awkward fella ragging on your athletic feats?  ;D
Ragging on anyone because they were a lousy pro in any sport is retarded. An average, even below average professional, still crushes 95% of the population in any given sport and is rediculously talented. Take motocross, the top 3-4 riders will lap half the field most times. But that guy getting lapped can go to any local track and decimate anyone. Weak trolling on a vet like Sev. Of course this is a bb board, not a tennis forum, and UKJeff's pisses all over you on a stage. Tennis is a real sport is all, with real athletes  LoL!
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 20, 2014, 11:16:03 PM
Ragging on anyone because they were a lousy pro in any sport is retarded. An average, even below average professional, still crushes 95% of the population in any given sport and is rediculously talented. Take motocross, the top 3-4 riders will lap half the field most times. But that guy getting lapped can go to any local track and decimate anyone. Weak trolling on a vet like Sev. Of course this is a bb board, not a tennis forum, and UKJeff's pisses all over you on a stage. Tennis is a real sport is all, with real athletes  LoL!

you will see my new transformation and will eat your words  ;D

I want to be compared with good bodybuilders not last place in Mr Britain 1986  ;)
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 20, 2014, 11:20:51 PM
you will see my new transformation and will eat your words  ;D

I want to be compared with good bodybuilders not last place in Mr Britain 1986  ;)
Are we going to see you in normal light doing the seven mandatory compulsory poses or will it be a semi relaxed shot in the shade with 3/4 length board shorts on?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 20, 2014, 11:32:06 PM
Are we going to see you in normal light doing the seven mandatory compulsory poses or will it be a semi relaxed shot in the shade with 3/4 length board shorts on?
I look much better in mandatories than front relaxed you dumb fuck. I also have world class leg genetics so no need for board shorts. And when you adress me, speak for yourself. Stop acting like "we" like there is someone else "with you" then wolfcocks, analhalo and shitso you awkward old penis lover. I am Michael Jackson and you are a retarded Tito.
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 20, 2014, 11:41:35 PM
I look much better in mandatories than front relaxed you dumb fuck. I also have world class leg genetics so no need for board shorts. And when you adress me, speak for yourself. Stop acting like "we" like there is someone else "with you" then wolfcocks, analhalo and shitso you awkward old penis lover. I am Michael Jackson and you are a retarded Tito.

You look better in the mandatory poses yet you dont post any pics of them, sounds legit.

I look forward to this transformation and pics.

When will it be complete?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 12:50:49 AM
You look better in the mandatory poses yet you dont post any pics of them, sounds legit.

I look forward to this transformation and pics.

When will it be complete?
Don't worry about it. It'll be done when it'll be done you butt hurt geriatric has been who never was.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Wolfox on March 21, 2014, 12:56:05 AM
Sev, petty bs aside, you once presented yourself as a good hearted humanitarian. Who is the current mean spirited person I'm seeing right now?
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 01:05:26 AM
Don't worry about it. It'll be done when it'll be done you butt hurt geriatric has been who never was.
Echos of dj181.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 04:30:43 AM
Sev, petty bs aside, you once presented yourself as a good hearted humanitarian. Who is the current mean spirited person I'm seeing right now?
You know, you have days and days. I am very gentle in real life. But I have certain times when I wake up and just feel like pissing on your head .. same goes for the gstring bunny
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 21, 2014, 04:37:11 AM
Echos of dj181.
;D
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 04:41:45 AM
Echos of dj181.
The difference between you and me is that I moon walk the walk.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Skorp1o on March 21, 2014, 04:55:08 AM
You know, you have days and days. I am very gentle in real life. But I have certain times when I wake up and just feel like pissing on your head .. same goes for the gstring bunny

hahaha  ;D
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: D.O.U.P on March 21, 2014, 04:59:39 AM
LOL at people trying SO HARD to hurt Sev's feelings.

Fucking guy played tennis , what the fuck have you assholes ever done ?  Besides run your fucking mouth online  

Exactly
Title: Re: Another classic Weider lie
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 05:41:55 AM
The difference between you and me is that I moon walk the walk.
I know, Ive seen the vid, impressive stuff it is to  ;D

Just as long as people know you are moving backwards on purpose.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 05:42:45 AM
Exactly

I used to be a pro bodybuilder?
Really?
Well I entered a show when I was unemployed, I think that counts.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 06:10:52 AM
Just wondering, has anyone ever seen a picture of Sev with a tennis racket?
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: anabolichalo on March 21, 2014, 06:35:52 AM
I used to be a pro bodybuilder?
Really?
Well I entered a show when I was unemployed, I think that counts.
anything you do while unemployed automatically turns into pro level


professional alcoholic

professional masturbator

etc
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 06:37:17 AM
Quote
professional masturbator

I didnt know they did competitions.  ;D
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 10:18:41 AM
Just wondering, has anyone ever seen a picture of Sev with a tennis racket?
In all honesty, how can you judge how good a guy is in tennis? I think Galeniko can cast an opinion if he sees me play.. but to you .. you could not tell me from the top players just watching me hit the ball. Yet, there is a world of difference.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: CalvinH on March 21, 2014, 10:24:38 AM
In all honesty, how can you judge how good a guy is in tennis? I think Galeniko can cast an opinion if he sees me play.. but to you .. you could not tell me from the top players just watching me hit the ball. Yet, there is a world of difference.


Humbling to me was going to a PGA tour event and watch the pros hit golf balls.



...the shortest hitters are longer then pretty much every weekend hacker or even somewhat serious player.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 21, 2014, 10:36:33 AM
In all honesty, how can you judge how good a guy is in tennis? I think Galeniko can cast an opinion if he sees me play.. but to you .. you could not tell me from the top players just watching me hit the ball. Yet, there is a world of difference.


This. I got into tennis a bit when my kid took tennis lessons.  I was a handball and raquetball guy from way back.

BIG difference when you cant just crush the fucking ball against a brick wall and keep it in bounds...you have to have  spin, touch and major feel. Its very hard. I. Wont even play against someone who can really play, its no fun for either of us me picking up balls the whole match.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: SuperTed on March 21, 2014, 10:42:18 AM
In all honesty, how can you judge how good a guy is in tennis? I think Galeniko can cast an opinion if he sees me play.. but to you .. you could not tell me from the top players just watching me hit the ball. Yet, there is a world of difference.

Out of curiousity, how big is the gap between the men and women in tennis?
At your best, do you think you would have beaten the No.1 woman in the world such as a Williams or Davenport?

I was arguing this with a friend last Wimbledon.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 10:42:59 AM

This. I got into tennis a bit when my kid took tennis lessons.  I was a handball and raquetball guy from way back.

BIG difference when you cant just crush the fucking ball against a brick wall and keep it in bounds...you have to have  spin, touch and major feel. Its very hard. I. Wont even play against someone who can really play, its no fun for either of us me picking up balls the whole match.
I played a few A level raquetball tournaments. Spent some time training .. absolutely loved it.

I remember well when Cliff Swain cleaned house on the tour for a few years and wanted to make the transition to pro tennis. He managed about my level then quit. Here's the story

http://www.cnnsi.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1005394/index.htm (http://www.cnnsi.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1005394/index.htm)
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 10:47:35 AM
Out of curiousity, how big is the gap between the men and women in tennis?
At your best, do you think you would have beaten the No.1 woman in the world such as a Williams or Davenport?

I was arguing this with a friend last Wimbledon.
I had many discussions about this over the years. The difference is I was playing tennis and did actually play with top 100 girls and so forth.

When I was playing MY best tennis, I could beat let's say Serena without much effort. Top women's players are weaker than any ranked male. They are at the level of good male club players. They hit the ball well. But they are slow. It does not matter if you can hit a ball if you don't get to it in time.


When I played squash, I dated Courtnay Powers. She was top something in the world if I am not mistaking and we played a few times together. I would manage to take a set off of her but she always beat me in the end. It's like she was playing with a yo yo sending me all over the court. With fresh legs and going for shots I could take a set. But she won the matches. The only time a girl beat me at something I thought I was good at :D

I also played once for fun with her brother and former world No 1 Jonathan. I thought it was a very cool experience.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: CalvinH on March 21, 2014, 10:51:52 AM

This. I got into tennis a bit when my kid took tennis lessons.  I was a handball and raquetball guy from way back.

BIG difference when you cant just crush the fucking ball against a brick wall and keep it in bounds...you have to have  spin, touch and major feel. Its very hard. I. Wont even play against someone who can really play, its no fun for either of us me picking up balls the whole match.



Really? I'm surprised, I heard you loved to play with balls ??? ;D
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 21, 2014, 10:52:31 AM
I played a few A level raquetball tournaments. Spent some time training .. absolutely loved it.

I remember well when Cliff Swain cleaned house on the tour for a few years and wanted to make the transition to pro tennis. He managed about my level then quit. Here's the story

http://www.cnnsi.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1005394/index.htm (http://www.cnnsi.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1005394/index.htm)

Yep.  I was by no means an expert anything, but I could play and had gobs of power. With raquetball when you're in trouble you can just blast a nuclear shot and get in better position, as long as it hits the front wall first you're good to go. you cant just hit the ball as hard as you can in the right direction in tennis.

Handball...now thats something I was deadly at. I could serve out games 21-0 against guys that could play
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: SuperTed on March 21, 2014, 10:54:48 AM
I had many discussions about this over the years. The difference is I was playing tennis and did actually play with top 100 girls and so forth.

When I was playing MY best tennis, I could beat let's say Serena without much effort. Top women's players are weaker than any ranked male. They are at the level of good male club players.

When I played squash, I dated Courtnay Powers. She was top something in the world if I am not mistaking and we played a few times together. I would manage to take a set off of her but she always beat me in the end. It's like she was playing with a yo yo sending me all over the court. With fresh legs and going for shots I could take a set. But she won the matches. The only time a girl beat me at something I thought I was good at :D

I also played once for fun with her brother and former world No 1 Jonathan. I thought it was a very cool experience.

Thanks for the response. You've actually confirmed what I was thinking regarding the gap in quality between male and female tennis players.
There are some sports where the gender gap in quality is huge, in other sports not so much. Tennis is definitely the former.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: James28 on March 21, 2014, 10:55:26 AM
Out of curiousity, how big is the gap between the men and women in tennis?
At your best, do you think you would have beaten the No.1 woman in the world such as a Williams or Davenport?

I was arguing this with a friend last Wimbledon.

Sev will be a better person to answer, but I'd say Williams and Davenport would struggle with the pace and power of the men's game. Especially the serve. Which is why I said the other day, there will be no rallies or much of a game with even a basically skilled tennis player. Just you picking up balls.

Now I know you didn't ask, but I'll give you an example with badminton. Maybe it's broadly applicable to tennis. In 2002 when 'Pi Hongyan', a female badminton player ranked world Number 5, came to our club for a promotion, I got to play a set against her. She was world Nr 1 a few months later. She couldn't do anything against me. In fact, I pasted her so bad that I gave her points towards the end of the set. I truly truly thought I wouldn't stand a chance. I weren't even top 5 in the juniors in England and absolutely NOWHERE in even Europe, nevermind the world. And she was top 5. Google her, she was awesome. But she couldn't keep up with a local shitkicker. No I'm not saying she played her best, but even if she did, she still wouldn't stand a chance. There's a massive massive difference between males and female in badminton at least. So big I can't describe it to you. Yet to the untrained eye they play virtual the same. Believe me, the difference couldn't be bigger. Maybe the same in tennis.

Anyway, I'll now let Getbig do their thing and call me a liar, etc etc.  :-\
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 11:06:19 AM
Watch mixed doubles. The women hold their own easily with the men. The secret? They don't have to move  ;D

Once you start jerking her around the court is nighty nite
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: James28 on March 21, 2014, 11:08:28 AM
I had many discussions about this over the years. The difference is I was playing tennis and did actually play with top 100 girls and so forth.

When I was playing MY best tennis, I could beat let's say Serena without much effort. Top women's players are weaker than any ranked male. They are at the level of good male club players. They hit the ball well. But they are slow. It does not matter if you can hit a ball if you don't get to it in time.


When I played squash, I dated Courtnay Powers. She was top something in the world if I am not mistaking and we played a few times together. I would manage to take a set off of her but she always beat me in the end. It's like she was playing with a yo yo sending me all over the court. With fresh legs and going for shots I could take a set. But she won the matches. The only time a girl beat me at something I thought I was good at :D

I also played once for fun with her brother and former world No 1 Jonathan. I thought it was a very cool experience.

See, without me actually coming up here for Sev, he's correct. If he was even a mildly competent player, he'd give the world nr1 female a massive go. Maybe even beat her. There's such a big difference between males and females with regards to pace and power. And most importantly, movement. Compared to males, females move as if their feet are stuck to velcro.

I know some people likes to rag on anyone here that did/does something out of the norm or of note, but this is just the truth.

Even today, having not picked up a badminton racket for 10 years, I'd give the world nr 1 female badminton player a massive game. She'd beat me but she'd have to work for it.

Such is the difference.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
See, without me actually coming up here for Sev, he's correct. If he was even a mildly competent player, he'd give the world nr1 female a massive go. Maybe even beat her. There's such a big difference between males and females with regards to pace and power. And most importantly, movement. Compared to males, females move as if their feet are stuck to velcro.

I know some people likes to rag on anyone here that did/does something out of the norm or of note, but this is just the truth.

Even today, having not picked up a badminton racket for 10 years, I'd give the world nr 1 female badminton player a massive game. She'd beat me but she'd have to work for it.

Such is the difference.
I remember beating in 2002 the 146th ranked woman 6-0,6-1... she also blew me so it might have been a biased win  ;D
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 11:24:09 AM
In all honesty, how can you judge how good a guy is in tennis? I think Galeniko can cast an opinion if he sees me play.. but to you .. you could not tell me from the top players just watching me hit the ball. Yet, there is a world of difference.

Look Sev, lets just clear up why I have been pulling your pisser over the "I was a tennis pro".
The reason I picked up on it and wound you up was because you throw it into the conversation as if you were knocking on the door of Wimbledon superstardom.
If you had said "I turned pro and won a few games but couldn't really hang with the top players I wouldnt have batted an eyelid.

I dont doubt you can play tennis.

NB Sevaste overcoming the onslaught in this thread and turing it around with the help of the getbig gang.
Getbiggers look after their own.   ;D
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 11:25:43 AM
I remember beating in 2002 the 146th ranked woman 6-0,6-1... she also blew me so it might have been a biased win  ;D

Calm down Sev, dont over egg the pudding by trying to out do any previous posters.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 11:31:52 AM
Look Sev, lets just clear up why I have been pulling your pisser over the "I was a tennis pro".
The reason I picked up on it and wound you up was because you throw it into the conversation as if you were knocking on the door of Wimbledon superstardom.
If you had said "I turned pro and won a few games but couldn't really hang with the top players I wouldnt have batted an eyelid.

I dont doubt you can play tennis.

NB Sevaste overcoming the onslaught in this thread and turing it around with the help of the getbig gang.
Getbiggers look after their own.   ;D
You idiot. I have been talking about what I played on getbig and at what level for 10 years .. it's nothing new and I was very specific about the level... your trolling is weak. Stick to bodybuilding by the way. I will soon embarass your ego in that domain as well.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 21, 2014, 11:40:14 AM
You idiot. I have been talking about what I played on getbig and at what level for 10 years .. it's nothing new and I was very specific about the level... your trolling is weak. Stick to bodybuilding by the way. I will soon embarass your ego in that domain as well.

Yes. The mighty Sevastase and the effervescent mightyness that is groink are exchanging motivational tips and info en route to a dual unveiling of massive, proportioned detailed physiques with advanced skin tone and the correct amount of vascularity
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Army of One on March 21, 2014, 11:42:23 AM
2 old men with embellished tales of yesteryear going walking stick to walking stick in this thread.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Yes. The mighty Sevastase and the effervescent mightyness that is groink are exchanging motivational tips and info en route to a dual unveiling of massive, proportioned detailed physiques with advanced skin tone and the correct amount of vascularity
it's like a massive lion shaking of the odd gstringed insect off it's massive detaliled back .. royal, majestic and imposing .. then takes a dump, the insect jumps to pick the nutrients .. then the lion BANG! drops another turd and the insect is left to die trapped in the very honey pot she so desperately sought.
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 21, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
it's like a massive lion shaking of the odd gstringed insect off it's massive detaliled back .. royal, majestic and imposing .. then takes a dump, the insect jumps to pick the nutrients .. then the lion BANG! drops another turd and the insect is left to die trapped in the very honey pot she so desperately sought.


Hahahaaaa..are you implying that people who wear g strings are ass-centric people and prone to sniffing male asses ?
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2014, 11:58:46 AM
Yes. The mighty Sevastase and the effervescent mightyness that is groink are exchanging motivational tips and info en route to a dual unveiling of massive, proportioned detailed physiques with advanced skin tone and the correct amount of vascularity
'CORRECT AMOUNT VASCULARITY'PAUL DILLETT WOULD HAVE FAILED YOUR DESCRIPTION...
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 21, 2014, 12:21:49 PM

Hahahaaaa..are you implying that people who wear g strings are ass-centric people and prone to sniffing male asses ?
hahaha, I am saying that the photographer was a black fellow named Moses who parted his cheeks for a ssniffer named ukjelly
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: anabolichalo on March 21, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
hahaha, I am saying that the photographer was a black fellow named Moses who parted his cheeks for a ssniffer named ukjelly
jeff destroys your gypsy alcoholic physique
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Simple Simon on March 21, 2014, 03:38:53 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=524913.0;attach=558799;image)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=291611.0;attach=331815;image)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvlvi9gLkC1r5jtugo1_400.gif)

By the way Sev, who took that photo of you?
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: anabolichalo on March 21, 2014, 03:42:06 PM

By the way Sev, who took that photo of you?
white towel indicates it could be schmoe time
Title: Re: Another lie - All big champions got that way lifting really heavy weights
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 23, 2014, 12:38:32 AM
hahaha, I am saying that the photographer was a black fellow named Moses who parted his cheeks for a ssniffer named ukjelly
nice ass but pjs is better