Hail to England!
Now I'm gonna blast the Manowar classic!
While this is good for independence, they have hard time ahead. The pound went down 9.8% today. I don't see any reason for it to bounce back, if anything, I see it falling further. As far as the rest of the EU goes, this gives reasons for others to exit if they want to retain any sovereignty or control over their countries. Hard times will be ahead for country that follows England until they regain their footing.
There's going to be so much change and fallout from this. This is just the snowball that got pushed down hill
I wanna know how I can make money off this...I didn't think this would happen. There's money to be made.
They will recover.
The sooner this project USA 2.0 dies, the better. It will be interesting to see if, after other countries have left, something more valuable can be built or if an even more aggressive unification will take place.
Good for them... Swexit next
I'm a dumb american, don't understand the significance of this :-[
I wanna know how I can make money off this...I didn't think this would happen. There's money to be made.
1. Short the FTSE 100 via inverse index ETF
2. Profit immensely
Talk of more countries leaving ::)
You do release that no clauses exists for the exit of member states? And if the UK is to exit succesfully, it is only capable of doing so because it never joined the monetary union and was exempt from certain legislation (TFUE/TUE). Leaving the EU for the remaining members, and new members (and prospective members) would be self-destructive, just as will be the case with the UK. Splendid isolation once again.
The stock prices of British manufacturers and exporters will probably fall,but they would do well out of a cheap pound.
The market is panicking now and dumping the British currency,but it could be worth buying and holding onto pounds.
Hi Martin Schulz
Sorry, but we're talking about the European, not the African Union.point taken 😀
point taken 😀
one must actually have an argument to support these claims of enhanced sovereigntyIndia, China?
it doesn't take a genius to notice that a devalued currency makes it easier for outside interests to come in and buy everything. which is exactly what will happen. so kiss "sovereignty" goodbye.
right?
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While this is good for independence, they have hard time ahead. The pound went down 9.8% today. I don't see any reason for it to bounce back, if anything, I see it falling further. As far as the rest of the EU goes, this gives reasons for others to exit if they want to retain any sovereignty or control over their countries. Hard times will be ahead for country that follows England until they regain their footing.
There's going to be so much change and fallout from this. This is just the snowball that got pushed down hill
This coherent and lucid analysis leads me to believe your hebrew rants are just trolling. Good for you.
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1. People voted because they were worried Turkey would join the EU and Turks would be able to flow into the UK. The reality is that Turkey are getting further and further away from being viable for EU membership so that wasn't a possibility. Ironically now more Turks will have a chance at a visa because the UK will be giving away more to outside of the EU!
2. People thought it would reduce immigration if we leave the EU, the reality is that the government will make up for the lack of Polish and other Europeans by bringing in more Pakistanis and Africans instead.
3. The rich conservatives used all the usual fear tactics and lies to scare the poor idiots into voting to leave, most working class people voted purely on the immigration issue, but if you see my point above it will backfire hard on them.
1. People voted because they were worried Turkey would join the EU and Turks would be able to flow into the UK. The reality is that Turkey are getting further and further away from being viable for EU membership so that wasn't a possibility. Ironically now more Turks will have a chance at a visa because the UK will be giving away more to outside of the EU!
2. People thought it would reduce immigration if we leave the EU, the reality is that the government will make up for the lack of Polish and other Europeans by bringing in more Pakistanis and Africans instead.
3. The rich conservatives used all the usual fear tactics and lies to scare the poor idiots into voting to leave, most working class people voted purely on the immigration issue, but if you see my point above it will backfire hard on them.
I wanna know how I can make money off this...I didn't think this would happen. There's money to be made.Buy up all that British FlatEarth stock you've been coveting.
Nonsensical overreaction. The pound will bounce back up in short order.
What has changed? absolutely nothing. London is still the financial capital of Europe. It has been the financial capital of Europe forever. Switzerland is doing just fine as well. What are they going to do, top trading with one of the worlds super powers? It much better to have the British on your side, Legit superpower that just refuses to flex its might out of politeness.
You know who is going to suffer,who is already suffering? the EU member states. They're running out of money quick with their unsustainable immigration policies that will cripple their welfare states countries in the long/short run. ( Thats what happens when you give women power... well except Thatcher, tough old bird.) They try to mother the world.
The market movers are shorting heavily putting pressure on the graph and will make a killing as usual on the bounce. Only an idiot would believe the fear mongering. Its the British Pound, it aint going nowhere.
IMO things should go back to the way there where before this nonsense globalism campaign started. This is a good start. The major problem in the world now is Islam...
I understand their pride, but this is a very dumb choice from an economic point of view. Within the next 3-5 years they will become the 'Greeks' of Northern Europe...
Nope. Trump will announce a US-UK trade preference within the week. Make England Great Again!
I understand their pride, but this is a very dumb choice from an economic point of view. Within the next 3-5 years they will become the 'Greeks' of Northern Europe...Maybe short term, but long term it's definately better.
The American markets will be crazy tomorrow. I don't think the world ending tomorrow but I think this started something much bigger and not good.Not good for welfare bum darkies like yourself.
Maybe short term, but long term it's definately better.
Norway is not a part of EU and they did fine.
1. People voted because they were worried Turkey would join the EU and Turks would be able to flow into the UK. The reality is that Turkey are getting further and further away from being viable for EU membership so that wasn't a possibility. Ironically now more Turks will have a chance at a visa because the UK will be giving away more to outside of the EU!
2. People thought it would reduce immigration if we leave the EU, the reality is that the government will make up for the lack of Polish and other Europeans by bringing in more Pakistanis and Africans instead.
3. The rich conservatives used all the usual fear tactics and lies to scare the poor idiots into voting to leave, most working class people voted purely on the immigration issue, but if you see my point above it will backfire hard on them.
Lets not fool ourselves, this vote out was all about restricting free movement of people from eu to uk.The irony is 3 of the 4 options now to keep free trade with the eu mean we still have to accept free movement of people.This election was won by people being completely ill informed and not being able to do a 5 minute Google search.
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What do you disagree with?
It was the crie de coeur of an enslaved people bursting from their cages. History will show the EU to be -- at best -- a failed experiment. More likes, it'll be proven to be an authoritarian take over plot by globalist elite.
Other peoples of Europe! England has shown you the way!
No it really wasn't, you have to live here to really experience that it was all about not wanting Muslims coming over, yes there were people unhappy with the eu, but the immigration problem caused by Merkel has ramped it up tenfold in the past few years, and still the difference was only 4% between staying and leaving.
I understand their pride, but this is a very dumb choice from an economic point of view. Within the next 3-5 years they will become the 'Greeks' of Northern Europe...
allmost all major economists warned the UK not to leave the EU
Complete delusion.
Every country in the world is dissatisfied with their government, throwing out your 'I have a dream' nonsense really means nothing, do you have any facts or experience of the U.K. to bring to the discussion?
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Talk of more countries leaving ::)
You do realize that no clauses exists for the exit of member states? And if the UK is to exit succesfully, it is only capable of doing so because it never joined the monetary union and was exempt from certain legislation (TFUE/TUE). Leaving the EU for the remaining members, and new members (and prospective members) would be self-destructive, just as will be the case with the UK. Splendid isolation once again.
Nonsensical overreaction. The pound will bounce back up in short order.
What has changed? absolutely nothing. London is still the financial capital of Europe. It has been the financial capital of Europe forever. Switzerland is doing just fine as well. What are they going to do, top trading with one of the worlds super powers? It much better to have the British on your side, Legit superpower that just refuses to flex its might out of politeness.
You know who is going to suffer,who is already suffering? the EU member states. They're running out of money quick with their unsustainable immigration policies that will cripple their welfare states countries in the long/short run. ( Thats what happens when you give women power... well except Thatcher, tough old bird.) They try to mother the world.
The market movers are shorting heavily putting pressure on the graph and will make a killing as usual on the bounce. Only an idiot would believe the fear mongering. Its the British Pound, it aint going nowhere.
IMO things should go back to the way there where before this nonsense globalism campaign started. This is a good start. The major problem in the world now is Jewish Interference...
I understand their pride, but this is a very dumb choice from an economic point of view. Within the next 3-5 years they will become the 'Greeks' of Northern Europe...
allmost all major economists warned the UK not to leave the EU
240 years ago my blessed country divorced from your country for grievances including taxation without representation. I'm happy to welcome England to the fold of free peoples again. You Euro-loyalists are always welcome to Chunnel your asses "home" before they brick it up.
Suck on it.
I wanna know how I can make money off this...I didn't think this would happen. There's money to be made.
240 years ago my blessed country divorced from your country for grievances including taxation without representation. I'm happy to welcome England to the fold of free peoples again. You Euro-loyalists are always welcome to Chunnel your asses "home" before they brick it up.
Suck on it.
If you bought gold, its going to skyrocket in price
If you bought gold, its going to skyrocket in price
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Maybe short term, but long term it's definately better.
Norway is not a part of EU and they did fine.
If you bought gold, its going to skyrocket in price
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World banks do not store shit in their vaults, they store gold.
Wake up.
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what this proves is you can get people to do anything if you attach it some vague immigration reform agenda to it
there will be no impact on immigration but don't let that affect the celebrations as the money drains out of the UK
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allmost all major economists warned the UK not to leave the EU
You're not a world bank, you're not a bank. Well, don't know, maybe you own a bank. Most people don't.
so when are the romanian pickpockets and prostitutes getting booted out?
Talk of more countries leaving ::)
You do realize that no clauses exists for the exit of member states? And if the UK is to exit succesfully, it is only capable of doing so because it never joined the monetary union and was exempt from certain legislation (TFUE/TUE). Leaving the EU for the remaining members, and new members (and prospective members) would be self-destructive, just as will be the case with the UK. Splendid isolation once again.
Great news. Now let's just hope the Jews don't intentionally devastate the British pound as payback.
Great news. Now let's just hope the Jews don't intentionally devastate the British pound as payback.
This is happening to EU-member countries..
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thankfully for Britain they left...
Great news. Now let's just hope the Jews don't intentionally devastate the British pound as payback.
Obama Lectures British People about Exit
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The United Kingdom's decision to leave the European Union is the second major blow to President Barack Obama — and his legacy — in as many days.
The country's historic referendum decision, which brought the resignation — effective in October — of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron was made official one day after the Supreme Court left Obama's immigration executive order frozen in perpetuity.
On Thursday, Obama pinned much of the blame for the high court's 4-4 split decision on Senate Republicans' unwillingness to confirm his Supreme Court nominee, Judge Merrick Garland, and on House Republicans for blocking a Senate-passed bipartisan immigration overhaul bill in 2013.
But he cannot blame them for the British EU exit, known as "Brexit."
During a visit to London in April, Obama did not mince words about his opposition to an EU exit. Speaking beside Cameron, the president delivered a forceful case that Britain as an EU member is stronger on the continent and across the globe.
“The United Kingdom is at its best when it is helping to lead a strong Europe. It leverages U.K. power to be part of the European Union,” Obama said, seeming to directly address British voters.
And Obama did not try to shield his belief that his country stands to retain its position as the world’s most powerful nation if Britain votes to remain an EU member.
“If one of our best friends is in an organization that enhances their power and economy, then I want them to stay in it — or at least I want to be able to tell them, ‘I think this makes you bigger players,’” Obama said. “Ultimately it’s your decision. But precisely [because] we’re bound at the hip, I want you to know that.”
In a statement early Friday morning, the White House said Obama had been briefed on the "Brexit" vote and would be calling Cameron soon.
On Twitter, Obama was already being blamed.
Jack Fowler, publisher of the conservative National Review magazine, tweeted that Obama's "lecturing" to the British people in April did not help the “remain" camp.
In a statement released Friday morning, Obama said of the British people: “We respect their decision,” and declared that “the special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom is enduring.”
He also underscored the U.K.’s membership in NATO, which is expected to remain unchanged. That “remains a vital cornerstone of U.S. foreign, security, and economic policy,” Obama said.
Obama also highlighted the U.S.-EU relationship, saying the union has “done so much to promote stability, stimulate economic growth, and foster the spread of democratic values and ideals across the continent and beyond.” But the European Union and the U.K. “will remain indispensable partners of the United States even as they begin negotiating their ongoing relationship to ensure continued stability, security, and prosperity for Europe, Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the world,” he said.
The Jews are behind this. They collapsed the middle east, create ISIS, sent them into Europe and are destabilizing the EU. They are getting full retribution.
what this proves is you can get people to do anything if you attach it some vague immigration reform agenda to it
there will be no impact on immigration but don't let that affect the celebrations as the money drains out of the UK
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there will be a huge impact on immigration you stupid fucker, you're obviously very upset your dirty shitty relatives won't be able to hop on the back of a lorry to get through the channel tunnel anymore
There's a brainwashed radical liberal feminist on TV whining about Brexit.
She says, "It's too bad the great John Lennon isn't here with us. Remember him singing, Imagine there's no countries?
Did she forget the lines immediately after: Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion, too.
It's wonderful to live in a country for which you'd kill or die, first of all.
Second, what part of Islam do these knobs NOT grasp?! How can any sensible and educated person NOT understand that not all cultures and ideologies are compatible?!
Orthodox Islam and democracy, freedom and secularism can never coexist.
Lennon was an acid-tripped hippie who had been brainwashed with the peace, love and happiness pill. But he did have the "no religion" part correct, that's for sure.
Love and happiness can only exist where there's peace. Whenever fundamentalist Islam is involved, peace is sooner or later destroyed.
Hail to Britain!
P.S. Anyone with a clue knew it would be tough going for England in the first dozen years, more or less, but in the long run, it's MUCH better off. Nationalism is a wonderful thing.
retard
I understand their pride, but this is a very dumb choice from an economic point of view. Within the next 3-5 years they will become the 'Greeks' of Northern Europe...
there will be a huge impact on immigration you stupid fucker, you're obviously very upset your dirty shitty relatives won't be able to hop on the back of a lorry to get through the channel tunnel anymore
Good for them
No more ruling from the Brussel headquarters
Maybe now they will Wake up stop importing third world trash
Nonsensical overreaction. The pound will bounce back up in short order.
What has changed? absolutely nothing. London is still the financial capital of Europe. It has been the financial capital of Europe forever. Switzerland is doing just fine as well. What are they going to do, top trading with one of the worlds super powers? It much better to have the British on your side, Legit superpower that just refuses to flex its might out of politeness.
You know who is going to suffer,who is already suffering? the EU member states. They're running out of money quick with their unsustainable immigration policies that will cripple their welfare states countries in the long/short run. ( Thats what happens when you give women power... well except Thatcher, tough old bird.) They try to mother the world.
The market movers are shorting heavily putting pressure on the graph and will make a killing as usual on the bounce. Only an idiot would believe the fear mongering. Its the British Pound, it aint going nowhere.
IMO things should go back to the way there where before this nonsense globalism campaign started. This is a good start. The major problem in the world now is Islam...
When the going gets tough, Britain gets on with kicking ass.
Leading the charge, as it were.
I'm sure Mr. Turbin (love it!) will re-enter the thread at some point, asking how we've "arrived at our conclusions". If "rational thought is involved". Telling us to "enjoy" our celebrations while money is being lost because of Brexit.
Calling anyone not down with Allah "knuckle draggers" (oh, the irony).
Hahahahaha! Suck it, pedoprophetpenispumper!
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When the going gets tough, Britain gets on with kicking ass.
Leading the charge, as it were.
I'm sure Mr. Turbin (love it!) will re-enter the thread at some point, asking how we've "arrived at our conclusions". If "rational thought is involved". Telling us to "enjoy" our celebrations while money is being lost because of Brexit.
Calling anyone not down with Allah "knuckle draggers" (oh, the irony).
Hahahahaha! Suck it, pedoprophetpenispumper!
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what are they going to do about the nine thousand foreign military on their soil ?
Europe won't pay a dime for them no more.....they will be back in a few years tails between their legs.
Then they will pay even more. >:(
Donald Trump Praises Brexit DecisionDonald is Spot on with that analysis
LOL. Pathetic euro fag. Europe is doomed. The whole thing will be gone in less than five years. Maybe even before the end of Trump's first term!
Protester Interrupts Trump in Scotland, Hands out Swastika Golfballs[/b]
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Tito24 looks good here
Yeah, another one of those weirdos you described showed up at Trump's press conference today. It's not really about their support of Islam. It's just leverage used to retaliate against their own culture which they despise or feel like complete outcasts from.
Protester Interrupts Trump in Scotland, Hands out Swastika Golfballs
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there will be a huge impact on immigration you stupid fucker, you're obviously very upset your dirty shitty relatives won't be able to hop on the back of a lorry to get through the channel tunnel anymore
Haha great post, Mr turban obviously upset as he wont be bringing over another 7 stinking pakis from whatever fucking looser country ending in Stan he's from to work for pennies in his greasy stinking kebab shop
Think the EU has got to quickly conclude a new trade deal with the UK.
Investors seem to have less confidence in the Eurozone ,than in the British economy:
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Jewish Protester Interrupts Trump in Scotland, Hands out Swastika Golfballs[/b]
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I don't care what they do. I just find "brexit" to be the lamest name ever.
The government took the piss with immigration and the people voted accordingly. You've got to remember we are a densely populated set of Isles as it is. Cameron made promises concerning immigration that he just didn't intend on fulfilling.
It was also a vote against the PC brigade. Our culture is taking a battering and there are too many libtards enabling it. Couple of personal experiences that sum up the anti-british attitude that has permeated too deep already:
1. Saint George's day about 12 years ago whilst in my final school year, my best friend brought a small St.George's flag in to wave around in pride. We were in the playground as he got it out his bag when we were approached by the headteacher and a couple of heads of department and told we had to put it away as it could offend a lot of the "ethnic minorities" and that it could be seen as racist.....the school by the way is around 80 percent Muslim and all you saw during the cricket season was scores of Pakis with cricket bats and Pakistan flags, a country to which they have probably never visited...this went on unmitigated every year and not once was it given the same treatment.
2. I visited my local hospital in the early hours of the morning to see the emergency doctor as I had an ear infection that had unbeknownst to me spread into the bone. There were a number of parents with babies there and several pensioners. The sign on the wall clearly stated the vulnerable such as the aforementioned would be seen first. Over in the corner of the room moping around on the seats coughing and spluttering was a dishevelled Romanian woman with presumably her partner. For two hours she coughed up phlegm onto the floor and surrounding seats and threw filthy tissues on the seats whilst demanding to see the doctor first before the several babies and old folks. She was told umpteenth times that she had to wait her turn or would be asked to leave. Eventually they caved in to her and she was told she had norovirus and should go home as you are specifically told not to visit the hospital as although it is easy to get over, it is extremely infectious. Did they demand she pick up after herself? No, she left all her filth strewn out everywhere because they were scared of her.
I could go on and on as I live in the Midlands where I see this shit on a regular basis.
Slapper, I understand your point on Paki immigration, but it doesn't mean you can not take a stand now. They've said enough is enough and I believe this is the beginning of some push back by the indigenous population to save their own culture and keep themselves from being colonized.
The government took the piss with immigration and the people voted accordingly. You've got to remember we are a densely populated set of Isles as it is. Cameron made promises concerning immigration that he just didn't intend on fulfilling.
It was also a vote against the PC brigade. Our culture is taking a battering and there are too many libtards enabling it. Couple of personal experiences that sum up the anti-british attitude that has permeated too deep already:
1. Saint George's day about 12 years ago whilst in my final school year, my best friend brought a small St.George's flag in to wave around in pride. We were in the playground as he got it out his bag when we were approached by the headteacher and a couple of heads of department and told we had to put it away as it could offend a lot of the "ethnic minorities" and that it could be seen as racist.....the school by the way is around 80 percent Muslim and all you saw during the cricket season was scores of Pakis with cricket bats and Pakistan flags, a country to which they have probably never visited...this went on unmitigated every year and not once was it given the same treatment.
2. I visited my local hospital in the early hours of the morning to see the emergency doctor as I had an ear infection that had unbeknownst to me spread into the bone. There were a number of parents with babies there and several pensioners. The sign on the wall clearly stated the vulnerable such as the aforementioned would be seen first. Over in the corner of the room moping around on the seats coughing and spluttering was a dishevelled Romanian woman with presumably her partner. For two hours she coughed up phlegm onto the floor and surrounding seats and threw filthy tissues on the seats whilst demanding to see the doctor first before the several babies and old folks. She was told umpteenth times that she had to wait her turn or would be asked to leave. Eventually they caved in to her and she was told she had norovirus and should go home as you are specifically told not to visit the hospital as although it is easy to get over, it is extremely infectious. Did they demand she pick up after herself? No, she left all her filth strewn out everywhere because they were scared of her.
I could go on and on as I live in the Midlands where I see this shit on a regular basis.
Ok so... immigration is an issue so... you seek independence from the EU (which is not a source of your Paki immigration).
Makes perfect sense to me.
Just so that you know... all those Pakis are there because your grand-grand-papa helped the Queen's cause of creating a "Great" Britain. If you're pissed, you ought to direct your ire at your grand-grand-papa for being a freaking tool. And now, you're helping someone else's cause by voting for something that WILL NOT take care of your issues.
Makes all the sense in the world.
You can definitely take a stand... It's the breaking up with the EU part that I'm failing to connect to your point.
And on your second point about "indigenous population"... why don't we ask the Irish what they think about it? Your grand-pa certainly didn't have such weak-ass dilemmas.
You see, for a country that embarked (many centuries ago) in an onslaught of violence the likes of Ghengis Khan would be proud of... That the only discernible blowback is in the form of unwanted immigration and problems with the local symbology (to me it sounds as though they don't want you to shove your symbols in their face more than anything else) should be taken as a gift. You're lucky these folks do not want to chop your head off and fuck your wife (which is what your grand-pa did).
Slapper, I understand your point on Paki immigration, but it doesn't mean you can not take a stand now. They've said enough is enough and I believe this is the beginning of some push back by the indigenous population to save their own culture and keep themselves from being colonized.
push back from the ignorant, old and uneducated more like.So basically the people who benefited from public resources aka social programs, voted out?
when you look at the break down of who voted for what.
areas that voted out tended to be places where the average house price was under 150k. areas that voted in tended to be places where more than a third of the population has a degree. also the old were far more more likely to vote out.
all the old cnts, poor cnts and uneducated cnts voted out. so in other words all the cnts that cost more in public resources than they put in have now made it harder for the rest of us that already have to susbidise their sorry @sses.
So basically the people who benefited from public resources aka social programs, voted out?
push back from the ignorant, old and uneducated more like.
when you look at the break down of who voted for what.
areas that voted out tended to be places where the average house price was under 150k. areas that voted in tended to be places where more than a third of the population has a degree. also the old were far more more likely to vote out.
all the old cnts, poor cnts and uneducated cnts voted out. so in other words all the cnts that cost more in public resources than they put in have now made it harder for the rest of us that already have to susbidise their sorry @sses.
France today....London my Dream...
in general yes. those that tend to take more out of the pot than they put in voted out and those that subsidise them voted in.And you and others learned a valuable lesson from this?
And you and others learned a valuable lesson from this?
And you and others learned a valuable lesson from this?
refuge collection
push back from the ignorant, old and uneducated more like.
when you look at the break down of who voted for what.
areas that voted out tended to be places where the average house price was under 150k. areas that voted in tended to be places where more than a third of the population has a degree. also the old were far more more likely to vote out.
all the old cnts, poor cnts and uneducated cnts voted out. so in other words all the cnts that cost more in public resources than they put in have now made it harder for the rest of us that already have to susbidise their sorry @sses.
what lesson am i supposed to learn?
i think you are confused at the meaning of "public resources" . it doesn't mean they're all on welfare.
education, healthcare, refuge collection....there are tons of services that cost money apart from "social programs" as you call them.
there are only 3 regions in the UK that make a net positive fiscal contribution, London, the south east, and the east. all other regions cost more than their tax receipts add up to.
You can definitely take a stand... It's the breaking up with the EU part that I'm failing to connect to your point.
And on your second point about "indigenous population"... why don't we ask the Irish what they think about it? Your grand-pa certainly didn't have such weak-ass dilemmas.
You see, for a country that embarked (many centuries ago) in an onslaught of violence the likes of Ghengis Khan would be proud of... That the only discernible blowback is in the form of unwanted immigration and problems with the local symbology (to me it sounds as though they don't want you to shove your symbols in their face more than anything else) should be taken as a gift. You're lucky these folks do not want to chop your head off and fuck your wife (which is what your grand-pa did).
push back from the ignorant, old and uneducated more like.
when you look at the break down of who voted for what.
areas that voted out tended to be places where the average house price was under 150k. areas that voted in tended to be places where more than a third of the population has a degree. also the old were far more more likely to vote out.
all the old cnts, poor cnts and uneducated cnts voted out. so in other words all the cnts that cost more in public resources than they put in have now made it harder for the rest of us that already have to susbidise their sorry @sses.
So basically the people who benefited from public resources aka social programs, voted out?
Fucking stupid snobbish way of looking at it, I take absolutley fuck all from the country or you toff wankers who think you "pay to keep us" and was in favour of leaving (couldn't vote as was too late to register), every single lad in my department at work who also get fuck all from the government voted the same way. How exactly do we cost you shitstains who think you are upper class anything?
and what are you going to do with the nine thousand foreign military personel and their bases on UK soil?
I see there is a petition with over a million signatures for a new referendum. It will have to be taken seriously due to it having over 100,000 signatures but I don't see it happening(another referendum). I don't see why anyone would think this is a bad thing, or why it is "racist" ???
Fucking stupid snobbish way of looking at it, I take absolutley fuck all from the country or you toff wankers who think you "pay to keep us" and was in favour of leaving (couldn't vote as was too late to register), every single lad in my department at work who also get fuck all from the government voted the same way. How exactly do we cost you shitstains who think you are upper class anything?
the thing that makes me laugh. it's all these northern cnts, the dreggs of humanity that were harping on about how much we pay to the EU blah blah blah, when their own fkin regions in the UK are subsidised by London and the south east anyway.
thick fkers, don't realise that the 8.5billion net membership fee(or whatever) is a drop in the ocean compared to the potential loss in tax receipts should this end up with us in a long lasting recession.
http://www.isitfair.co.uk/reports/public/oe%20ukpublicfinance.pdf
go look at that to see how u fukos are paid for
yes because idiots in govt fucked off all our manufacturing industries
and change to the current london based financial model
where coked up nancy boys scream at each other losing billions of dollars of virtual money
leaving our economy teetering on fragile glass all the time
We've had foreign troops stationed here for decades, leaving the EU won't change that.
a lot of our manufacturing industries were not viable, they were no longer competitive. you think the government should have propped up these failing industries?
there's a thing called "comparative advantage" (look it up). the financial sector is an area where we have it.
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^^^ the typical out voter
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/25/leave-campaign-rows-back-key-pledges-immigration-nhs-spending (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/25/leave-campaign-rows-back-key-pledges-immigration-nhs-spending)
The leave campaign has appeared to row back on key pledges made during the EU referendum campaign less than 24 hours after the UK voted for Brexit, after it emerged immigration levels could remain unchanged.
You and conker the pair of stinking paki bastards keep telling yourselves that, it's you wankers who think you are upper class that look like fucking fools at the minute labelling every leave voter as poor, racist and thick.
you're not very educated or informed, cutting off your nose to spite your face and boasting about it.Honest you are making a fucking fool of yourself, it's your fellow paki conker lashing out like a child, I simply asked him to explain how he is paying to keep me when I get not a penny from the government, he comes back with more petulant insults about northerners and you come back with a daft picture?
Please remain silent and reflect on what has occurred. I suspect you don't have the disciple to do this sadly. In that case just just be quiet and stop ruining things for everyone else. Perhaps you're motivated by some deep seated personal trauma. As suggested earlier, rather than lashing out recklessly, look within yourself and ask the hard questions. Was mummy unfair and overbearing? Sometimes the the truth can be painful but its gonna be ok.
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You and conker the pair of stinking paki bastards keep telling yourselves that, it's you wankers who think you are upper class that look like fucking fools at the minute labelling every leave voter as poor, racist and thick.
Hey if they don't pull their weight.
Honest you are making a fucking fool of yourself, it's your fellow paki conker lashing out like a child, I simply asked him to explain how he is paying to keep me when I get not a penny from the government, he comes back with more petulant insults about northerners and you come back with a daft picture?
i never said that. i said they were old, poor and uneducated...but yeh racist and thick no doubt fits the bill too. thanks.
they already have the military bases and the troops on the ground
i never said that. i said they were old, poor and uneducated...but yeh racist and thick no doubt fits the bill too. thanks.
UK is what's called the spear carrier for the US in world affairs. A tool to be used and discarded. They're required to go along with everything which is why the rejection of the invasion of syria was a shock. Seems they've become a little unruly. Ideally, if things continue on the current path the US will simply own the UK. In that's the case such problems will not arise again.
...but ya immigration reform, freedom and all that ::)
you gonna bitch and moan for the next month non stop aren't ya
of course there will be problems and struggles, that's life
but then maybe you never had to struggle - living on the dole?
I think this is the fourth time I'm asking this.
what makes you think this will have an effect on immigration?
Where did this idea come from?
???
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^^^ the typical out voter
Are you really a Paki? If so I'd keep my mouth shut about IQ LOL.
no i'm not a "paki" you dumb cnt. i'm caribbean/english. but i would take a "paki" over your piece of sht @ss any day of the week.
no i'm not a "paki" you dumb cnt. i'm caribbean/english. but i would take a "paki" over your piece of sht @ss any day of the week.
We're you born here? Haha no wonder you are so against the leave camp
yes i was born in the UK you brain dead northern sht. and the last time i checked the caribbean wasn't in the EU...so even if i was born there why would you think that would have any bearing on me wanting to remain in the EU?
see this is the typical pea brain mentality of your average OUT voter.
yes i was born in the UK you brain dead northern sht. and the last time i checked the caribbean wasn't in the EU...so even if i was born there why would you think that would have any bearing on me wanting to remain in the EU?Haha how can you call anyone else uneducated and pea brained when you come back with low intelligence, unnecessarly aggresive responses littered with needless insults? You masquerade as you a toff but are acting like something more commonly seen on "world star hip hop"
see this is the typical pea brain mentality of your average OUT voter.
yes i was born in the UK you brain dead northern sht. and the last time i checked the caribbean wasn't in the EU...so even if i was born there why would you think that would have any bearing on me wanting to remain in the EU?
see this is the typical pea brain mentality of your average OUT voter.
no i'm not a "paki" you dumb cnt. i'm caribbean/english. but i would take a "paki" over your piece of sht @ss any day of the week.
yes i was born in the UK you brain dead northern sht. and the last time i checked the caribbean wasn't in the EU...so even if i was born there why would you think that would have any bearing on me wanting to remain in the EU?
see this is the typical pea brain mentality of your average OUT voter.
fuck off back to the shithole you came from, darkie
Haha how can you call anyone else uneducated and pea brained when you come back with low intelligence, unnecessarly aggresive responses littered with needless insults? You masquerade as you a toff but are acting like something more commonly seen on "world star hip hop"
pipe down FENIAN scum.. the Irish trying to be racist LOL
don't you realise you are viewed as the lowest form of life....fck off back beyond the pale.
That's so funny coming from the king of low intelligence, unnecessarily aggressive responses littered with needless insults. This is what you do on Getbig.
Absolutely hilarious.
yes i was born in the UK you brain dead northern sht. and the last time i checked the caribbean wasn't in the EU...so even if i was born there why would you think that would have any bearing on me wanting to remain in the EU?
see this is the typical pea brain mentality of your average OUT voter.
Haha you may be correct but still fuck you niggs
Fair enough :D ;D :-*
why do you get angry if people offer a different view
this patronising view towards people who voted out
just makes you look ignorant and condescending
look at the 1st post from bass generator directed to me...it was hardly respectful was it?he called me a toff a shitstain (lol) and a wnker...
you will notice i am rarely disrespectful to posters that don't dish it out themselves.
anyway it's only an internet forum, it's not that serious. who cares what anyone thinks of anyone else.
Even lower than Caribbean?? What have those useless fuckers ever done for the world? Your people are shit and your culture is shit ;D
you are nothing but a half-breed who hates himself
Even lower than Caribbean?? What have those useless fuckers ever done for the world? Your people are shit and your culture is shit ;D
you are nothing but a half-breed who hates himself
Of course it will effect immigration.
If not directly then because it's now starkly obvious to the out of touch political elite that most people are fed up with the small island being flooded with immigrants.
davey boy.
where to start?... "the irish"... a filthy bunch of sister fking, potato famining, terrorist, gypsy shtehounds . i have trodden in dog sht that has more virtue than the irish...
i have to go wash my hands now, i feel contaminated just communicating with you.
so you're praying that "the elites" will take action on immigration
what exactly leads you to believe this will happen?
???
I'm not praying for anything, I am telling you that the political class have had a huge shock and a massive wake up call and there's now a greater chance that they will get a few things under control.
If you're going to attempt to be patronising then do it properly. This is getbig not twitter.
I seriously hope the UK collapses onto itself. Fucking morons won't realize how good they had it.They will be begging to rejoin in less then 10 years?
Donald is Spot on with that analysis
davey boy.
where to start?... "the irish"... a filthy bunch of sister fking, potato famining, terrorist, gypsy shtehounds . i have trodden in dog sht that has more virtue than the irish...
i have to go wash my hands now, i feel contaminated just communicating with you.
I think this is the fourth time I'm asking this.
what makes you think this will have an effect on immigration?
Where did this idea come from?
???
Hahaha us Irish are more popular than you lot. Name one positive thing the darkies over there are known for. You wake up every morning wishing you were a shade whiter. Stop hating yourself because you're a mongrel!! ;D
Even lower than Caribbean?? What have those useless fuckers ever done for the world? Your people are shit and your culture is shit ;D
you are nothing but a half-breed who hates himself
They will be begging to rejoin in less then 10 years?
And how many times have you been asked if you're a Muslim?
You ask everyone for answers to everything yet cannot provide a simple yes or no to ONE simple question. You deflect.
You're the highlighted fool in this thread. And in many others.
Humans are racist. It'll never change.
Nationalism is what matters. Defend your borders from those not of your culture. Fundamentally this is very simple.
Multiculturalism is a disaster.
One more thing. Mr. Turbin incessantly asks others to provide exacting answers to explain why they think the way they do. He'd "love to know."
His ramblings/presentations about why he feels as he does are every bit as "forecasting" as anyone else's.
The guy's a first-class toolbox who hilariously thinks he is in-the-know.
I'm being serious.
Withdrawing from the EU is a very serious matter with fairly radical economic consequences. If you support this based on some sort of reform agenda related to immigration I would hope there would be a more direct effect other than "a chance" some "elites" will take some unknown, undefined action on said agenda.
Do the elites have any reason to take this action? I'd love to know about it.
It seems there's a bunch on fairly unexamined assumptions at work here. (that's putting it politely)
???
They will be begging to rejoin in less then 10 years?
To give you a proper response about my views on Brexit would take up far more time than I've got spare. So in short:
For some it's about immigration, but for me the key fundamental is that "ever closer Union" was only ever going to end in a disaster (Euro anyone?). I own businesses in two EU countries, I also live in the same two EU countries and my wife is from another EU country. I don't have a theoretical perspective, I live it every day. The UK is culturally too different from the Continent, especially the Southern European nations, to ever have anything other then some form of common market to ease trade. I also have businesses in other non EU countries and the challenges for my company are no more nor less than conducting business in an EU country so the so-called advantages are not all that obvious in my practical experience.
Europe is infected with the cancer of socialism and I don't want my country to suffer the same problems. Spain, Portugal, Greece and probably Italy are basket cases in pretty much every way, and the inclusion of countries such as Romania and Bulgaria do nothing but drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. The streets of London are now paved with gypsy beggars and thieves.
I also have an instinctive dislike for unelected officials in Brussels, the worst place on the planet for self destructive political correctness, dictating to the UK.
But I am not celebrating leaving the EU. For me it would have been far better to have had a pragmatic renegotiation, but the arrogance of Brussels made that impossible and they gave Cameron a humiliating package to go back to the British people with. I don't want to shackle myself to such a bunch of dumb cnuts.
So Turbo is a fucking Muzzie and Conker is a island heeb? Awesome.
LOL. The EU will be gone in five. Either blown apart by regionalistic nationalisms, converted to Eurabia or overrun by Russians.bullshit. only way to compete with NAFTA
bullshit. only way to compete with NAFTA
Holy shit, Conker is a island Hebrew? I always thought that he was a typical self-hating white man, but now everything makes sense. Hahaha!
LOL. The EU will be gone in five. Either blown apart by regionalistic nationalisms, converted to Eurabia or overrun by Russians.
Why should the UK have remained in the EU?
To give you a proper response about my views on Brexit would take up far more time than I've got spare. So in short:
For some it's about immigration, but for me the key fundamental is that "ever closer Union" was only ever going to end in a disaster (Euro anyone?). I own businesses in two EU countries, I also live in the same two EU countries and my wife is from another EU country. I don't have a theoretical perspective, I live it every day. The UK is culturally too different from the Continent, especially the Southern European nations, to ever have anything other then some form of common market to ease trade. I also have businesses in other non EU countries and the challenges for my company are no more nor less than conducting business in an EU country so the so-called advantages are not all that obvious in my practical experience.
Europe is infected with the cancer of socialism and I don't want my country to suffer the same problems. Spain, Portugal, Greece and probably Italy are basket cases in pretty much every way, and the inclusion of countries such as Romania and Bulgaria do nothing but drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. The streets of London are now paved with gypsy beggars and thieves.
I also have an instinctive dislike for unelected officials in Brussels, the worst place on the planet for self destructive political correctness, dictating to the UK.
But I am not celebrating leaving the EU. For me it would have been far better to have had a pragmatic renegotiation, but the arrogance of Brussels made that impossible and they gave Cameron a humiliating package to go back to the British people with. I don't want to shackle myself to such a bunch of dumb cnuts.
And how many times have you been asked if you're a Muslim?
You ask everyone for answers to everything yet cannot provide a simple yes or no to ONE simple question. You deflect.
You're the highlighted fool in this thread. And in many others.
I've asked him a few times myself and an answer is never forthcoming. How cowardly can you be? Maybe he is ashamed? ???
To give you a proper response about my views on Brexit would take up far more time than I've got spare. So in short:
For some it's about immigration, but for me the key fundamental is that "ever closer Union" was only ever going to end in a disaster (Euro anyone?). I own businesses in two EU countries, I also live in the same two EU countries and my wife is from another EU country. I don't have a theoretical perspective, I live it every day. The UK is culturally too different from the Continent, especially the Southern European nations, to ever have anything other then some form of common market to ease trade. I also have businesses in other non EU countries and the challenges for my company are no more nor less than conducting business in an EU country so the so-called advantages are not all that obvious in my practical experience.
Europe is infected with the cancer of socialism and I don't want my country to suffer the same problems. Spain, Portugal, Greece and probably Italy are basket cases in pretty much every way, and the inclusion of countries such as Romania and Bulgaria do nothing but drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. The streets of London are now paved with gypsy beggars and thieves.
I also have an instinctive dislike for unelected officials in Brussels, the worst place on the planet for self destructive political correctness, dictating to the UK.
But I am not celebrating leaving the EU. For me it would have been far better to have had a pragmatic renegotiation, but the arrogance of Brussels made that impossible and they gave Cameron a humiliating package to go back to the British people with. I don't want to shackle myself to such a bunch of dumb cnuts.
I seriously hope the UK collapses onto itself. Fucking morons won't realize how good they had it.
They will be begging to rejoin in less then 10 years?
Why is GetBig so torn about Euro drama? I don't me this event alone. But over that past couple years.
To give you a proper response about my views on Brexit would take up far more time than I've got spare. So in short:
For some it's about immigration, but for me the key fundamental is that "ever closer Union" was only ever going to end in a disaster (Euro anyone?). I own businesses in two EU countries, I also live in the same two EU countries and my wife is from another EU country. I don't have a theoretical perspective, I live it every day. The UK is culturally too different from the Continent, especially the Southern European nations, to ever have anything other then some form of common market to ease trade. I also have businesses in other non EU countries and the challenges for my company are no more nor less than conducting business in an EU country so the so-called advantages are not all that obvious in my practical experience.
Europe is infected with the cancer of socialism and I don't want my country to suffer the same problems. Spain, Portugal, Greece and probably Italy are basket cases in pretty much every way, and the inclusion of countries such as Romania and Bulgaria do nothing but drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. The streets of London are now paved with gypsy beggars and thieves.
I also have an instinctive dislike for unelected officials in Brussels, the worst place on the planet for self destructive political correctness, dictating to the UK.
But I am not celebrating leaving the EU. For me it would have been far better to have had a pragmatic renegotiation, but the arrogance of Brussels made that impossible and they gave Cameron a humiliating package to go back to the British people with. I don't want to shackle myself to such a bunch of dumb cnuts.
My mother's parents are Irish immigrants who integrated you moron so I have every right to comment.
You are missing the point. I am friends with a multitude of folk from various races who believe it or not wanted out...my best friend is second generation Polish, he agrees with my views. Our culture is being compromised because the worst thing you can be is a proud Brit. Believe it or not it's not just whitey that is proud to stand up for British culture.
Let me guess, you're the type of person that thinks modern day whitey should be apologising for the whole history of the slave trade?
Get a grip.
Hasn't the Scottish PM declared that they will seek another secession referendum?
;D ;D
What a clusterfuck of a country.
They will enjoy the EU until they get the bill. Seriously stupid, however, the breakup of the UK is now a possibility.
Guess what, though, UK are net importers with the rest of the EU, and by a long way. With such a large economy, and that the EU are economically stuffed as it is, the EU needs the UK for trade just as much as the UK needs to keep the trade status quo. 10% of total number of BMWs are sold in the UK.
UK trading with the EU is mainly with Germany + Netherlands + Norway + Belgium. What will most likely happen is that these countries will push for the UK to get special trading status to avoid tariffs. The issue will be that the UK WILL NOT formally ask to get this trading status because Brits will have to pay for it (which is what they're doing nowadays anyway) and relinquish some of its sovereignty, which we definitely know they will not do.
Either way they are contemplating a very ugly future. Scotland will secede from the union, the Sterling Pound will get pounded... Brits will not be able to buy ½ of what they're buying nowadays, et cetera.
I blame this squarely on how Merkel and the Germans acted with the Greece issues though. If there has ever been a fucking time Germany could've redeemed themselves from the ball and chains of the WWII, it was helping out the Greeks sort out their debt (the Greek government pardoned their debt with the Germans post WWII). Instead of doing that, Merkel embarked in a tour of PIGS that involved austerity measures the likes she wouldn't even DARE impose on Germans even after WWII. And Germans, being that they are fucking screwed up human beings, loved every second of that shit.
SOOOOOOO, it's no wonder Brits saw that and said "fuck this shit! This isn't a Union!". A process that culminated in what we saw this past week.
The wee witch Nicola Sturgeon (head of the Scottish government) has just said on TV that the Scottish government is checking whether it can block the UK implementing the exit trigger. Seems she thinks all regional governments have to sign up to article 50 and she is determined not to because Scotland voted to stay in.
Hasn't the Scottish PM declared that they will seek another secession referendum?
;D ;D
What a clusterfuck of a country.
The Scots have nothing except people on the dole. They're perfect for the EU.
You're so completely full of left wing sh1t that it oozes out of your ears. It is clear you are one sad brainwashed dope.
To give you a proper response about my views on Brexit would take up far more time than I've got spare. So in short:
For some it's about immigration, but for me the key fundamental is that "ever closer Union" was only ever going to end in a disaster (Euro anyone?). I own businesses in two EU countries, I also live in the same two EU countries and my wife is from another EU country. I don't have a theoretical perspective, I live it every day. The UK is culturally too different from the Continent, especially the Southern European nations, to ever have anything other then some form of common market to ease trade. I also have businesses in other non EU countries and the challenges for my company are no more nor less than conducting business in an EU country so the so-called advantages are not all that obvious in my practical experience.
Europe is infected with the cancer of socialism and I don't want my country to suffer the same problems. Spain, Portugal, Greece and probably Italy are basket cases in pretty much every way, and the inclusion of countries such as Romania and Bulgaria do nothing but drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. The streets of London are now paved with gypsy beggars and thieves.
I also have an instinctive dislike for unelected officials in Brussels, the worst place on the planet for self destructive political correctness, dictating to the UK.
But I am not celebrating leaving the EU. For me it would have been far better to have had a pragmatic renegotiation, but the arrogance of Brussels made that impossible and they gave Cameron a humiliating package to go back to the British people with. I don't want to shackle myself to such a bunch of dumb cnuts.
The Scots have nothing except people on the dole. They're perfect for the EU.
Other than oil and gas, Scotland is actually doing quite well. Trouble is that there is too much free stuff handed out including university degrees, prescriptions etc. GDP per head of population and levels of export (mainly due to Whiskey, salmon , cheese, high end engineering and haggis) is way ahead of UK as a whole. Normally with oil and gas revenue this makes Scotland a higher net economic generator per capita than UK as a whole. We actually subsidise England but the kunts in charge brainwash the simple folk of England to believe otherwise. Why else did English government want Scotland to stay ? Not rocket science to work it out. ::)
Other than oil and gas, Scotland is actually doing quite well. Trouble is that there is too much free stuff handed out including university degrees, prescriptions etc. GDP per head of population and levels of export (mainly due to Whiskey, salmon , cheese, high end engineering and haggis) is way ahead of UK as a whole. Normally with oil and gas revenue this makes Scotland a higher net economic generator per capita than UK as a whole. We actually subsidise England but the kunts in charge brainwash the simple folk of England to believe otherwise. Why else did English government want Scotland to stay ? Not rocket science to work it out. ::)
The message probably went past you like a bad fart.
Ain't nothing but air in the between those ears huh Johnie Boy?
ya ain't got nuttin else have ya slaphead
The Pound is massively overvalued, another 10-20% devaluation would probably be more realistic.
Some analysts are predicting 1.15 to the dollar.
https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/gbp-live-today/5088-pound-to-euro-reactions-to-brexit-and-pm-resignation
i doubt below 1.25
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If the UK makes the transition out easy and barely has any wounds to show I guarantee you France and Spain will be quick to follow. Right now they're waiting to see how this turns out.
If the UK makes the transition out easy and barely has any wounds to show I guarantee you France and Spain will be quick to follow. Right now they're waiting to see how this turns out.
There's talk of a second vote, the elites are thoroughly pissed off, the vast majority of parliament don't support leaving, be interesting to see how this all plays out
I was on the fence but I'm all for the leave now, the smarmy southern girl.s whinging on the telly was enough to convince me otherwise
There's talk of a second vote
The 3+ million that signed the petition for another vote were a bunch of 4chan retards scripting it.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/hah-liberal-media-pranked-4chan-poll-second-eu-referendum-totally/
Any chance of any kind of civil war/skirmish over this, or if there is a revote?
Any chance of any kind of civil war/skirmish over this, or if there is a revote?No chance, pretty sure guns are illegal or quite rare for civilians to own. ;)
Any chance of any kind of civil war/skirmish over this, or if there is a revote?
There's talk of a second vote, the elites are thoroughly pissed off, the vast majority of parliament don't support leaving, be interesting to see how this all plays out
I was on the fence but I'm all for the leave now, the smarmy southern k u n t s whinging on the telly was enough to convince me otherwise
there won't be a second vote
If the UK makes the transition out easy and barely has any wounds to show I guarantee you France and Spain will be quick to follow. Right now they're waiting to see how this turns out.Different situation.France and Spain exchanged their old currencies the franc and the peseta for the Euro. Far more harder to get out now.
Will the EU play nice with the U.K. Or give them the big fuck you on any deals.
Fair enough too. Perhaps there was some confusion? After all, a lot of the voters are probably still taking ESL classes. The have to make the choice crystal clear. A simple yes/no.
Should the UK not choose to no longer remain in the EU?
- Yes
- No
That's how you democracy.
The petition is a waste of fucking time. I just signed it and I'm an American although I signed " Nigel Mansell " ;D
It's being outted as mostly fraudulent.
Under investigation.
But this is what the E.U. Does to nations that want their freedom and sovereignty back...they keep holding votes until they have the result and then say, "Okay, the people have spoken, democracy in action! No more votes!"
Cameron has been a good PM overall but made an error calling for the referendum in the first place. He went purely by the polls which predicted that people would vote to remain.
However, he should have known it was a massive gamble for a number of reasons -
1) Almost everyone over a certain age would vote to exit the EU. And older folk will produce a significantly higher turnout than younger voters.
2) Seniors within his own party will support Brexit.
3) Labour are currently run by a leader who himself is a Euro skeptic. Corbyn only supported to remain because he had to go with his party's choice. He was unenthusiastic and uninspiring during the campaign. Cameron should have been aware that he wouldn't get the strong support of the shadow leader.
4) Cameron should have put a rule in place which could override a Brexit victory. For instance, he could have said that in order to avoid a split of nations within the UK - if 2 of the 4 nations that make up the UK vote to remain, a Brexit victory would be declared as being void.
Cameron always liked playing a risky game. This was one risk too far.
Oi, EU:ha
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The Jewish elite is ALREADY acting as sore losers, figuring out ways to defy the will of the majority (52%).
Will the EU play nice with the U.K. Or give them the big fuck you on any deals.
coming soon to every mall in the UK
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Cameron has been a good PM overall but made an error calling for the referendum in the first place. He went purely by the polls which predicted that people would vote to remain.
However, he should have known it was a massive gamble for a number of reasons -
1) Almost everyone over a certain age would vote to exit the EU. And older folk will produce a significantly higher turnout than younger voters.
2) Seniors within his own party will support Brexit.
3) Labour are currently run by a leader who himself is a Euro skeptic. Corbyn only supported to remain because he had to go with his party's choice. He was unenthusiastic and uninspiring during the campaign. Cameron should have been aware that he wouldn't get the strong support of the shadow leader.
4) Cameron should have put a rule in place which could override a Brexit victory. For instance, he could have said that in order to avoid a split of nations within the UK - if 2 of the 4 nations that make up the UK vote to remain, a Brexit victory would be declared as being void.
Cameron always liked playing a risky game. This was one risk too far.
Other EU countries are already warning about the UK government not invoking Article 50 as a form of blackmail
meanwhile
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/uk-rush-for-irish-passports-risks-overloading-system-says-minister-1.2701801 (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/uk-rush-for-irish-passports-risks-overloading-system-says-minister-1.2701801)
Please apply outside of summer season, Foreign Affairs Minister tells Brexit applicants .........
and
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/27/property-and-financial-shares-slide-as-referendum-fallout-hits-stock-markets (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/27/property-and-financial-shares-slide-as-referendum-fallout-hits-stock-markets)
The UK has been stripped of its last AAA rating as credit agency Standard & Poor’s warned of the economic, fiscal and constitutional risks the country now faces as a result of the EU referendum result......
The UK spent 20 years trying to get into the EEC aand then spent the next 40 years bellyaching about it so it probably wont get a huge amount of sympathy for its special pleadings especially as it seems to think the only other members that matter are France and Germany, rarely paying attention to the other 24 members and some times oblivious that it sharea a land border with one of its major trading partners.
Why? Norway and Switzerland are not in the EU and have the country's citizens have no great appetite to become full members of the EU. They have a free trade deal with them.
And Britain is not in the stagnating Euro currency zone,either.
I have no idea what happens next since scum is acting like scum and trying to usurp the win. What a fucking mess. Meanwhile back in the U.S...
Fuckers are going to stop it. watch.
The referendum itself was advisory, rather than legally binding, and nothing was legally set in motion as a result of the vote.
Theoretically, the government could ignore the result, although doing so would presumably prompt an angry reaction from the 52% of Brits who voted to leave.
"The referendum doesn't itself trigger Brexit," said Kenneth Armstrong, professor of European law at the University of Cambridge. "It still requires the decision of a government."
Specifically, a Brexit requires the UK government to invoke Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon, the EU legislation governing a potential breakup
why would 27 other members offer a special deal to the UK given it already has several special exceptions. What would the UK be giving in return?
why would 27 other members offer a special deal to the UK given it already has several special exceptions. What would the UK be giving in return?
no trade tarifs. we will call their bluffs and impose a 5% import tax on them.
I might have already mentioned that Germany,the nation that calls the shot in the EU, last month had a $26 billion trade surplus with the UK.
The UK is the third largest export market for the Germans,after France and the US. I think the Germans would like this trade to continue.
Simple economic logic means if tariffs are imposed on British goods and the British economy tanks the Germans are going to be most hurt by the fallout:
EU referendum: Trade curbs 'foolish' if UK votes Leave, says German industry (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36596060)
I think there already seems to friction between Germany and her European partners as how to deal with the British:
Brexit: Angela Merkel pushes back on EU pressure for quick divorce (https://next.ft.com/content/60678b42-3aa2-11e6-8716-a4a71e8140b0)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-Kvg4Q0a90QJEU: Britain must start exit process ‘as soon as possible’ (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-Kvg4Q0a90QJ:www.ft.com/fastft/2016/06/24/eu-presidents-respond-union-of-27-will-continue/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk)
nonsense. i'm sure the figs are something like 13% of German exports go to UK but around 45% of UK exports go to EU countries.
their losses will be diluted between 27 countries....ours won't.
Eh? Germany and the EU are two different things and that is the crux of the issue.
What is good for the Germany(which dominates the framing of EU policy) might not necessarily be good for the EU's weaker nations and for the EU as a whole
what i kept hearing in the run up to this referendum was "oh well we import more from the EU than we export to them so it will hurt them more"A lot of US companies used the U.K. As a gateway into the E.U.
whilst failing to grasp that it's 45% of our total exports going to EU countries . whereas goods going to the UK may be 13% of German exports, 10 % of French, 10% of Italian etc etc
so if trade is disrupted it's a much smaller hit to each of the other countries than it will be to us.
A lot of US companies used the U.K. As a gateway into the E.U.And they'll leave if they have to pay extra to deal with the EU countries. They'd rather stay in an English speaking country so possible they move to Scotland if they break apart? But then again Scots speak English but I have no fucking clue what they're saying half the time.
To be free and less economically prosperous is preferable to being restrained and directed but wealthy.
This is how real men feel.
Britain will be fine. People are so fucking scared and told what to think it's mindboggling. Like the EU is anythin other than a big sham. You can have all kinds of european initiatives and deal without letting power go to some cucks in brussels.
by all means and then watch as access to European financial markets are restricted
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36628595 (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36628595)
Now that the UK has voted to leave it is only its own hesitation that is stopping the exit
All I know is my boss made 50k on the Dax open at 7am on Fri morning. I only did high 4-figures :(
You never count your money when you're sitting at the table.
Short the dax with bracket orders, keep stops well behind in case of bounces high and ride it down a few hundred ticks ;D
Short the dax with bracket orders, keep stops well behind in case of bounces high and ride it down a few hundred ticks ;D
I predict that this Brexit is not going to happen. Stay tuned.
One must also surmise when to ambulate farther afield from, or perhaps dash the fuck out of, precarious enterprises.
Britts will be back tail between their legs....but it was their own choice, no Brexcuses....
Stupid people, still think they are a global power.
European Championships: as weak as the Dutch....both losing from Iceland. 8)
Scotland will leave too
nice double own goal
why do you care so much?
why do you care so much?
caring about things that matter is a hobby
understanding the world, attention to facts etc.
takes some effort but comes in handy from time to time
you should try it
Think big, think positive, never show any sign of weakness. Always go for the throat. Buy low, sell high. Fear? That's the other guy's problem...
;D
He's butthurt because he sees that sometimes the people beat his favored player: the state.
"the people"
aka middle class chinese immigrant hordes and walmart as the pound sinks below the dollar
I understand that you are in pain, my statist friend. It's ok. Our reeducation camps are quite nice.
caring about things that matter is a hobby
understanding the world, attention to facts etc.
takes some effort but comes in handy from time to time
you should try it
Yeah, you're the only person who knows anything. No one else.
You're a once-in-a-lifetime fool, Mr. Turbin.
Fucking awesome movie. I like how they did the crossover in Coming to America. "Mortimer, we're back!"
The personal problems, daddy issues, frustration and misery,
The mental illness, insecurity and paranoid obsession,
The confusion, bewilderment and intellectual deficit.
Always remember; the boogeyman did NOT create the above noted issues.
Pull yourself up by the bootstraps and try to get better.
hope this helps!
Racist who wore vile t-shirt to celebrate Brexit win has been DISOWNED by his family
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/nintchdbpict0002479364993.jpg?w=960)
Jobless Peter Bowman wore a top emblazoned with a bigoted slogan causing his brother to label him an 'idiot' and 'outcast'
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1359260/racist-who-wore-vile-t-shirt-to-celebrate-brexit-win-has-been-disowned-by-his-family/
what happens in "the real world" :-\
brutal haircut
brutal haircut
Looks like the Bank of England will probably lower interest rates.
The Pound might take another beating.
What's "Team Freedom", mr. turbo?
It's a secret club that wields a tremendous amount of influence
something like a hidden hand guiding things here and there
completely benevolent ofcourse!
as DB's Jim reid has said, the world is only in the early stages of QE...
Why's it a secret, then?
???
The personal problems, daddy issues, frustration and misery,
The mental illness, insecurity and paranoid obsession,
The confusion, bewilderment and intellectual deficit.
Always remember; the boogeyman did NOT create the above noted issues.
Pull yourself up by the bootstraps and try to get better.
hope this helps!
While I will agree he is an idiot and is totally worthless, what is racist about what the shirt says? Or are you basing it on something else?
there is the issue of the idiot and the issue of fortress
both these gentlemen seem to need help given their desperate and ridiculous attention seeking outbursts,
clearly something is wrong in the head
to answer your question, the term "racist" is from the linked article but I gather it would be interpreted as an example of implicit racism vs explicit racism. technically a smart idea given that certain explicit racist expressions will cause you to be arrested in many countries.
Would it be considered racist if he was referring to the white Polish immigrants who've come to the UK?
And how many times have you been asked if you're a Muslim?
You ask everyone for answers to everything yet cannot provide a simple yes or no to ONE simple question. You deflect.
You're the highlighted fool in this thread. And in many others.
Nigel Farage's speech to the European Parliament applies just as well to nothing happening deadbeat Internet leftist losers:
"What I’d like to see is a grownup and sensible attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship. I know that virtually none of you have never done a proper job in your lives, or worked in business, or worked in trade, or indeed ever created a job. But listen, just listen."
Did you get your feelings hurt when we asked where you get your ideas?
did you dislike having your repetitive posts drawn attention to?
yes Thin Lizzy loves to discuss leftism yet refuses to disclose the source material for said position!
are you ashamed of what you've been reading???
???
Nigel Farage's speech to the European Parliament applies just as well to nothing happening deadbeat Internet leftist losers:
"What I’d like to see is a grownup and sensible attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship. I know that virtually none of you have never done a proper job in your lives, or worked in business, or worked in trade, or indeed ever created a job. But listen, just listen."
so he calls for a grown up and sensible attitude from the EU during negotiations and then in the next sentence insults them saying none of them have ever done a proper job in their lives. what a complete fkwit.
thankfully "nigel" will have absolutely fk all to with any negotiations as his party doesn't even have a single elected MP in UK parliament. but he's doing a great job antagonising the EU before negotiations start. absolute moron.
1. Short the FTSE 100 via inverse index ETF
2. Profit immensely
Politicians should not earn a salary, they should do it for passion and the pursuit of knowledge, wisdom and virtue.
This is how democracy originally was.
They were also corrupt on a regal scale as well
You're not the first liberal shithead with whom I've gone back and forth. If I were to post a source or link you'd just say it was a right wing biased rag. You see, you're not special. You're are dime a dozen, useless leftist , who spends his days wondering why the world doesn't celebrate his scary intellect.
If the low probability event takes place and you actual grow up, you might learn that continually showing off how smart you are isn't gonna do you any good.
There's been some very interesting things 'not being said' huge split between France and Germany, merkal is positioning to get rid of jean claud junker, reading between the lines Germany might use this to flex some muscle and take some power away from the eu commission/parliment.
I think if we stayed in and kept pushing we could have got some form of what we wanted, but I'm more confident as time goes on that we will get an ok deal, depending on who is doing the talking for us
hopefully not may. gove or leadsom would bring the hammer down and offer them the deal.
http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/read-full-article-pulled-telegraph-pressure-may-campaign/
There's been some very interesting things 'not being said' huge split between France and Germany, merkal is positioning to get rid of jean claud junker, reading between the lines Germany might use this to flex some muscle and take some power away from the eu commission/parliment.Lots of maybes. Fool. Even you don't believe it. Spare us your nonsense.
I think if we stayed in and kept pushing we could have got some form of what we wanted, but I'm more confident as time goes on that we will get an ok deal, depending on who is doing the talking for us
Lots of maybes. Fool. Even you don't believe it. Spare us your nonsense.
Please do share your political wisdom ::)How about posting what you think about Brexit, rather than posturing?
How about posting what you think about Brexit, rather than posturing?
a message to the BREXIT voter
YOU SHIT THE BED
now you must lie in it
Fuck off paki
there's no undo button
sorry son
Please explain why we would want to undo
There would be big problems if we didn't stop free movement, its the only reason we left... We have to take whatever comes along with it.
For example; it was asked how leaving would reduce immigration, many, MANY times in this thread.
so far no one has an answer to this question so allow me to explain;
There is NO reason to expect immigration to be reduced, or any other pie in the sky claims about brexit sovereignty etc.
happy to elaborate further if required!
That's it? You were talking like all hell had broken loose and the country had ground to a halt
like I said I can elaborate, and I fully intend to thanks for the invitation
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2016/06/brexit.png&w=1484)
hahahhahahah!
how will this occur?
???
If you were going to make a bet on the long term prospects of the pound vs the euro, which one would you choose?
certain things aren't for public consumption
no different than charitable entities exercising privacy rights
Pound now. EU hasn't looked healthy for awhile.
Of course, I get most of my news from Getbig. So if I'm wrong it's really your guys' fault.
What might those things be, as a general rule?
things that enemies may object to or oppose
The Pound just reached 1.29 to the Dollar, even lower than it was in 1985.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-04/brexit-accelerates-the-british-pound-s-100-years-of-debasement
Pound just hit 1.27 to the Dollar.