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Saddam Hussein had rape squads. Employed soldiers for the purpose of raping mothers and daughters to torment those who had offended him. One member of his own cabinet disagreed with him and he was beaten nearly to death, his house bulldozed, his two daughers (one was 11 years old the other 14) and wife repeatedly raped. This is not to mention the countless of his own people he has tortured (some being fed to lions and put in woodchippers feet first).
Kim Jung-un has murdered and tortured his own people and even had killed members of his own family.
Osama bin Laden wanted everyone who did not convert to his religion to be put to death.
And joswift believes that our and other Western leaders are no better or no worse than these tyrants and monsters.
I had no idea he was such a nut job.
You are aware that those people were no better or worse than any political leaders in the West, you just seem to want to kill people who you disagree with or dont like.
Do you want George Bush and Tony Blair killed?
Would you have had all the leaders during the 2nd World war on the allied forces who were all fully aware of the Holocaust and chose to do nothing in case it diverted resources to the wrong place?
And I gurantee the guy want dead does not wish you harm, unless you have wronged him in some way..what did you do to him?
You can't guarantee (note correct spelling) shit. You have no idea what or who you are talking about. This crazy bum has been arrested numerous times and gets right back on the street. He has randomly assaulted people, he exposes himself to children and makes cat-calls ("show me your panties") as the kids have to walk past him because they have to get to the bus stop. He has threatened me countless times saying he will put a knife in my back. So STFU. You keep talking about things you know nothing about.
"You are aware that those people were no better or worse than any political leaders in the West."
Wow! I want everybody on this board to read this. This surprises me even coming from you. You are equating monsters like Kim Jung-un, Saddam Hussein, and Osama bin Laden? People who have slaughtered their own people for disagreeing with them and killing innocents because they don't share their religion with our leaders.
I had no idea what a nut case you are.
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https://theintercept.com/2018/12/01/the-ignored-legacy-of-george-h-w-bush-war-crimes-racism-and-obstruction-of-justice/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/21/america-loves-excusing-its-war-criminals-trump-pardons/
https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_war_crimes
Who do you think invented Concentration Camps?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_concentration_camps
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https://theintercept.com/2018/12/01/the-ignored-legacy-of-george-h-w-bush-war-crimes-racism-and-obstruction-of-justice/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/21/america-loves-excusing-its-war-criminals-trump-pardons/
https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_war_crimes
Who do you think invented Concentration Camps?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_concentration_camps
C'mon bro. You're really reaching on this. ::)
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C'mon bro. You're really reaching on this. ::)
Pellius is simply trying to character asassinate me by trying to rouse the rabble, maybe hes forgotten about the time he made comments and was labelled a pedo by 90% of the people here jumping to conclusions and putting words in his mouth.
People in glass houses..
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Saddam Hussein had rape squads. Employed soldiers for the purpose of raping mothers and daughters to torment those who had offended him. One member of his own cabinet disagreed with him and he was beaten nearly to death, his house bulldozed, his two daughers (one was 11 years old the other 14) and wife repeatedly raped. This is not to mention the countless of his own people he has tortured (some being fed to lions and put in woodchippers feet first).
Kim Jung-un has murdered and tortured his own people and even had killed members of his own family.
Osama bin Laden wanted everyone who did not convert to his religion to be put to death.
And joswift believes that our and other Western leaders are no better or no worse than these tyrants and monsters.
I had no idea he was such a nut job.
Where did you see that?
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Pellius are you being serious?
He didnt say Saddam was a good leader he said he was no worse than the western leaders. You would have thought after the Jeffrey Epstein revelations you would realize the this.
Propaganda created to fit the narrative. Just look at a case from your personal life. The media painted Mark Fuhrman as a rasict during the OJ trial and now hes an expert for Fox news.
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Pellius is simply trying to character asassinate me by trying to rouse the rabble, maybe hes forgotten about the time he made comments and was labelled a pedo by 90% of the people here jumping to conclusions and putting words in his mouth.
People in glass houses..
Of course he is. He loves stirring the pot. He's still right though.
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Of course he is. He loves stirring the pot. He's still right though.
Right about what?
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Pellius is simply trying to character asassinate me by trying to rouse the rabble, maybe hes forgotten about the time he made comments and was labelled a pedo by 90% of the people here jumping to conclusions and putting words in his mouth.
People in glass houses..
Exactly. By quoting your own words and how you stand by them I want people here to know what kind of character you have. It will influence your credibility on other matters considering your life perspective and world view -- including that you don't believe in absolute moral right and moral wrongs -- just opinions. Opinions that, and do, change all the time.
If I am putting words in your mouth out of context then please explain your remark. The essential argument you are making is "They killed people, we killed people." There is no difference in the moral context. Show me where I am wrong.
And unlike, ND, I didn't just post a snippet to mislead but I posted the whole post.
God, your spelling is like that of a 3rd grader.
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Where did you see that?
You don't believe it? Would it make a difference if I found a link? And if I can't find it what will you conclude. That Hussein is no better or no worse than Bush, Obama, Clinton, Trump?
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Exactly. By quoting your own words and how you stand by them I want people here to know what kind of character you have. It will influence your credibility on other matters considering your life perspective and world view -- including that you don't believe in absolute moral right and moral wrongs -- just opinions. Opinions that, and do, change all the time.
If I am putting words in your mouth out of context then please explain your remark. The essential argument you are making is "They killed people, we killed people." There is no difference in the moral context. Show me where I am wrong.
And unlike, ND, I didn't just post a snippet to mislead but I posted the whole post.
God, your spelling is like that of a 3rd grader.
https://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_backed_international_crime_partner/
You are aware that those people were no better or worse than any political leaders in the West
If you dont beleive thats true then you need to start reading something other than Western propaganda
All the people you listed are the ones vilified in the Western press as evil dictators
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Pellius are you being serious?
He didnt say Saddam was a good leader he said he was no worse than the western leaders. You would have thought after the Jeffrey Epstein revelations you would realize the this.
Propaganda created to fit the narrative. Just look at a case from your personal life. The media painted Mark Fuhrman as a rasict during the OJ trial and now hes an expert for Fox news.
I know he didn't say he said that Hussein was a good leader. I said he claimed they are morally equivalent. Wasn't that obvious? Do you think that our Western leaders are just as bad as Hussein who tortured and killed his own people? I know there a lot of people that do. The nutjobs. Do you feel the reports on Hussein, Kim Jung-un, Osama bin Laden was just media propaganda? Are you one of them?
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https://www.salon.com/2014/03/08/35_countries_the_u_s_has_backed_international_crime_partner/
You are aware that those people were no better or worse than any political leaders in the West
If you dont beleive thats true then you need to start reading something other than Western propaganda
All the people you listed are the ones vilified in the Western press as evil dictators
Oh, I see. You found people on the internet that hate the West and are part of the Blame America First crowd. What a surprise.
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You don't believe it? Would it make a difference if I found a link? And if I can't find it what will you conclude. That Hussein is no better or no worse than Bush, Obama, Clinton, Trump?
Saddam was our friend at one point..
The West wanted him removed for political reasons, not because he was killing people..
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/11022104/iraq-war-neoconservatives
this is perfect...
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Saddam was or friend at one point..
The West wanted him removed for political reasons, not because he was killing people..
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/11022104/iraq-war-neoconservatives
this is perfect...
So was Stalin. We fought with bin Laden in Afghanistan. And??????
You really are not very bright, are you?
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I know he didn't say he said that Hussein was a good leader. I said he claimed they are morally equivalent. Wasn't that obvious? Do you think that our Western leaders are just as bad as Hussein who tortured and killed his own people? I know there a lot of people that do. The nutjobs. Do you feel the reports on Hussein, Kim Jung-un, Osama bin Laden was just media propaganda? Are you one of them?
Morality?
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Morality?
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And that makes him morally equivalent to someone who feeds enemies to lions and has relatives assassinated.
See what becomes of a person with no moral compass?
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You don't believe it? Would it make a difference if I found a link? And if I can't find it what will you conclude. That Hussein is no better or no worse than Bush, Obama, Clinton, Trump?
I haven’t seen any concrete evidence supporting it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shredder
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So was Stalin. We fought with bin Laden in Afghanistan. And??????
You really are not very bright, are you?
So, at one time they were fine and then another they suddenly became evil dictators that need to be wiped off the face of the earth?
Judge people on the company they keep..
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And that makes him morally equivalent to someone who feeds enemies to lions and has relatives assassinated.
See what becomes of a person with no moral compass?
oh, so now morality has different levels?
Right OK... will God forgive him for all his infidelities?
You are either morally sound or you are not, when God gave us our morals did he share them out equally or did Western leaders get over their fair share?
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I haven’t seen any concrete evidence supporting it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shredder
there is none, pellius never reads any evidence, I have posted him links in the past he refuses to read them..
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/01/world/africa/africa-terror-attacks.html
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Pellius, you take this forum way too seriously. ??? ???
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I haven’t seen any concrete evidence supporting it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shredder
I'll look it up later but say it's not true, does that change anything? That Bush and Hussein are morally equivalent?
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So, at one time they were fine and then another they suddenly became evil dictators that need to be wiped off the face of the earth?
Judge people on the company they keep..
Of course. Are you that much of an idiot? Best friend have often become bitter enemies as circumstances change. Stalin and FDR had a common enemy they were fighting. When that was done the Soviet Union wanted to expand Communism and their influence throughout the world and we were in their way.
Too bad you never educated yourself but just relied on the internet to find views that support your outlook.
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Saddam Hussein had rape squads. Employed soldiers for the purpose of raping mothers and daughters to torment those who had offended him. One member of his own cabinet disagreed with him and he was beaten nearly to death, his house bulldozed, his two daughers (one was 11 years old the other 14) and wife repeatedly raped. This is not to mention the countless of his own people he has tortured (some being fed to lions and put in woodchippers feet first).
Kim Jung-un has murdered and tortured his own people and even had killed members of his own family.
Osama bin Laden wanted everyone who did not convert to his religion to be put to death.
And joswift believes that our and other Western leaders are no better or no worse than these tyrants and monsters.
I had no idea he was such a nut job.
Here is a question for you. If a western leader could get away with carrying out such acts or even if it made them more popular, how many do you thing would be okay doing them?
My guess is far more than we'd like to believe.
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oh, so now morality has different levels?
Right OK... will God forgive him for all his infidelities?
You are either morally sound or you are not, when God gave us our morals did he share them out equally or did Western leaders get over their fair share?
Again you show you know nothing about morality and religion. The idea that man, inherently flawed, has to be morally perfect to be save.
Like I said, you show more and more what a shallow and vapid person you are. Stick to worrying how your body looks and trying to win that trophy so you can show us what you've accomplished in life other than being a personal trainer making 35 grand a year (the figure you quoted) at 55 years old.
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there is none, pellius never reads any evidence, I have posted him links in the past he refuses to read them..
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Like I said, anybody can post links to support anything. I don't want to get into a battle of who can post the most links. I speak for myself. Can you?
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Pellius, you take this forum way too seriously. ??? ???
If you don't think this is serious subject then there's nothing I can do. There are really people out there that think this way and it's dangerous. I am not type to remain silent when people who benefited from our country shit on it.
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Here is a question for you. If a western leader could get away with carrying out such acts or even if it made them more popular, how many do you thing would be okay doing them?
My guess is far more than we'd like to believe.
I can't read peoples minds or know what motivates them. All I can be sure of is what they actually do. Bush didn't have any of his relatives or people who disagrees with him executed.
I judge people on what they actually do and not what I think they might do.
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I know he didn't say he said that Hussein was a good leader. I said he claimed they are morally equivalent. Wasn't that obvious? Do you think that our Western leaders are just as bad as Hussein who tortured and killed his own people? I know there a lot of people that do. The nutjobs. Do you feel the reports on Hussein, Kim Jung-un, Osama bin Laden was just media propaganda? Are you one of them?
LOL yes our leaders are above reproach and can take the moral high ground when compared to the EVIL middle eastern rulers.....
Dude your argument is why people say we should ban guns, multiple public shootings should never take place.
Jeffrey Epstein.
Was his sex slave/trade of minors better than what Saddam did because they werent tortured by gunmen? Were these acts permissible because our "leaders" and "people of power" didnt make them public?
Eric Snowden, is he a traitor or someone the government is singling out because they have the power to frame the narrative?
How do you think other nations explain our homeless issues? Do they villianize the US because the mentally ill roam the streets uncared for?
Bro you are an easily triggered individual.
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If you don't think this is serious subject then there's nothing I can do. There are really people out there that think this way and it's dangerous. I not type to remain silent when people who benefited from our country shit on it.
The world is dangerous place.
What do you suggest we do, eliminate everyone that doesnt have the same beliefs as you? How do we start?
Do we give them the opportunity to change and if they dont act accordingly imprison them? Or should they be euthanized?
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I know he didn't say he said that Hussein was a good leader. I said he claimed they are morally equivalent. Wasn't that obvious? Do you think that our Western leaders are just as bad as Hussein who tortured and killed his own people? I know there a lot of people that do. The nutjobs. Do you feel the reports on Hussein, Kim Jung-un, Osama bin Laden was just media propaganda? Are you one of them?
LOL yes our leaders are above reproach and can take the moral high ground when compared to the EVIL middle eastern rulers.....
Dude your argument is why people say we should ban guns, multiple public shootings should never take place.
Jeffrey Epstein.
Was his sex slave/trade of minors better than what Saddam did because they werent tortured by gunmen? Were these acts permissible because our "leaders" and "people of power" didnt make them public?
Eric Snowden, is he a traitor or someone the government is singling out because they have the power to frame the narrative?
How do you think other nations explain our homeless issues? Do they villianize the US because the mentally ill roam the streets uncared for?
Bro you are an easily triggered individual.
I don't see your logic. I am an NRA member for 25 years and a gun owner.
We are comparing nation leaders. You now want to compare civilian criminals as representing our country. It's apples and oranges, my friend.
And, yes, I'm easily triggered. So don't "trigger" me if you are not up to defending your position.
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If you don't think this is serious subject then there's nothing I can do. There are really people out there that think this way and it's dangerous. I am not type to remain silent when people who benefited from our country shit on it.
I never said it wasn't a serious topic. I said you take this place way too seriously. There's a difference.
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The world is dangerous place.
What do you suggest we do, eliminate everyone that doesnt have the same beliefs as you? How do we start?
Do we give them the opportunity to change and if they dont act accordingly imprison them? Or should they be euthanized?
Is that your take away message? Because I think it's absurd and immoral to make a moral equivalence of brutal tyrants and Western leaders that I want to eliminate, which I take as meaning to kill, people who disagree with me? Really?
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I never said it wasn't a serious topic. I said you take this place way too seriously. There's a difference.
You've read my post for years. I take serious topics seriously and lighthearted topics in kind.
You know I'm a big fan of Rory and support your loyalty to Auto Zone.
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I don't see your logic. I am an NRA member for 25 years and a gun owner.
We are comparing nation leaders. You now want to compare civilian criminals as representing our country. It's apples and oranges, my friend.
And, yes, I'm easily triggered. So don't "trigger" me if you are not up to defending your position.
I didnt trigger you. Joswift did.
If you cant see the correlations between multiple public shootings (they are bad, horrible and evil) and people holding leadership and the President accountable than I cant explain it.
When you worked as a security guard if you let someone that didnt live in the complex in and they robbed multiple units would you have kept your job, even though you didnt rob anyone?
You're an interesting individual. I bet you made a great boss in the workplace.
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Is that your take away message? Because I think it's absurd and immoral to make a moral equivalence of brutal tyrants and Western leaders that I want to eliminate, which I take as meaning to kill, people who disagree with me? Really?
Im asking what you suggest we do to people who make such offensive comments? How do we stop this?
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I didnt trigger you. Joswift did.
If you cant see the correlations between multiple public shootings (they are bad, horrible and evil) and people holding leadership and the President accountable than I cant explain it.
When you worked as a security guard if you let someone that didnt live in the complex in and they robbed multiple units would you have kept your job, even though you didnt rob anyone?
You're an interesting individual. I bet you made a great boss in the workplace.
I never said you triggered me. When I freely admit that I am easily triggered and to keep that mind if you don't want a long drawn out debate why do you take that to mean that I am saying you triggered me?
It's fascinating to me how people read into things and embellish them. When I say our world leaders are morally superior to murderous tyrants then some conclude that I'm saying our leaders are beyond reproach. So many are just not clear thinkers.
And no, I don't see much correlation between our leaders and shootings. We have had leaders from all sides of the political spectrum and shootings have only gone up. Guns used to be more easily available. When my dad was a kid you could buy one out of the Sears catalog.
Guns basically haven't changed, the availability of guns is more restricted, so it's the people who have changed. And it's more than the president that influences culture and conscious.
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Im asking what you suggest we do to people who make such offensive comments? How do we stop this?
Great question! I'll get back to you on this one.
Anyway, I have to go to the gym. Sooner or later joswift is going to challenge me to a pose down and in that respect I have to admit that I fall short, by not a small margin I might add. As with my days as a competitive athlete when I knew defeat was pretty much inevitable I want to at least make a brave show of it.
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Of course. Are you that much of an idiot? Best friend have often become bitter enemies as circumstances change. Stalin and FDR had a common enemy they were fighting. When that was done the Soviet Union wanted to expand Communism and their influence throughout the world and we were in their way.
Too bad you never educated yourself but just relied on the internet to find views that support your outlook.
So by your reasoning as long as we are friends at the time they can do what they like and if they do something we dont agree with then all bets are off and they are tyrants to be exterminated?
the CIA funded Afghan jihadists under the guise of Operation Cyclone when they were fighting Russia, a few years later the USA send in a kill squad to eliminate Osama Bin Laden
Dont you see its not about taking out leaders because they are despots, its purely for political reasons.
You seriously think these people are kiled because we believe they have skewed morals?
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And, yes, I'm easily triggered. So don't "trigger" me if you are not up to defending your position.
I never said you triggered me. When I freely admit that I am easily triggered and to keep that mind if you dont want a long drawn out debate why do you take that to mean that I am saying you triggered me?
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Saddam Hussein had rape squads. Employed soldiers for the purpose of raping mothers and daughters to torment those who had offended him. One member of his own cabinet disagreed with him and he was beaten nearly to death, his house bulldozed, his two daughers (one was 11 years old the other 14) and wife repeatedly raped. This is not to mention the countless of his own people he has tortured (some being fed to lions and put in woodchippers feet first).
Kim Jung-un has murdered and tortured his own people and even had killed members of his own family.
Osama bin Laden wanted everyone who did not convert to his religion to be put to death.
And joswift believes that our and other Western leaders are no better or no worse than these tyrants and monsters.
I had no idea he was such a nut job.
Joswift just disagrees to disagree. If you say water is wet he will disagree with you. Best to ignore him.
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Its just business....
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Joswift just disagrees to disagree. If you say water is wet he will disagree with you. Best to ignore him.
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Being a liquid, water is not itself wet, but can make other solid materials wet.
Wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to the surface of a solid, so when we say that something is wet, we mean that the liquid is sticking to the surface of a material.
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So?
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Being a liquid, water is not itself wet, but can make other solid materials wet.
Wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to the surface of a solid, so when we say that something is wet, we mean that the liquid is sticking to the surface of a material.
Hahahaha!
Joswift delivers, always!
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Pellius is simply trying to character asassinate me by trying to rouse the rabble, maybe hes forgotten about the time he made comments and was labelled a pedo by 90% of the people here jumping to conclusions and putting words in his mouth.
People in glass houses..
Joswift=shizzo
Welcome back bro
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Joswift=shizzo
Welcome back bro
It's the boogeyman, Joon.
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Im asking what you suggest we do to people who make such offensive comments? How do we stop this?
I am not in the business of suppressing offensive comments. I am not personally offended by joswift's beliefs. I disagree with them and think they are shallow and ignorant. People will read this, and not just from joswift, but others that think this way, and believe it because many don't think for themselves or try to think through the arguments presented. I try to argue my case and let others decide after hearing both sides. The idea that because our leaders have had innocents killed in times of war, or assassinate those that do harm to our country and people, that they are somehow morally equivalent to brutal dictators like Kim Jung-un. Try to speak against Kim Jung-un and see what happens to you. In this country not only can you speak against the President, but you can also do it to his face with impunity.
You can call their bluff the same way that you call out other people who shit on this country and consider America a horrible place. Ask them why they don't live somewhere else it this country is so bad. Why do so many people want to come here than any other country?
If someone had the choice between living under Kim Jung-un or President Trump who would they choose? Would they just flip a coin as it doesn't make any difference? Notice that all the bloviating Leftists that threatened to leave this country if Trump was elected grow very quiet when he was.
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oh, so now morality has different levels?
Right OK... will God forgive him for all his infidelities?
You are either morally sound or you are not, when God gave us our morals did he share them out equally or did Western leaders get over their fair share?
I can't speak for God. We have moral bank accounts. We make deposits and withdrawals. Everyone is going to sin. It is the totality of a person's life that is taken into account. Yes, committing adultery is a sin but if, say you sacrificed your life so that others may live, the most Christ-like thing a person can do. Then you are way ahead of the game morally.
Yes, it does. There are gradations of sins. Some things are worse than others. Why isn't that obvious? Stealing and smuggling food off of a buffet or taking their silverware home is still stealing, but not to the same degree as bilking some retired couple out of their life savings and ruining their lives.
And Western leaders are morally superior not because God gave them more morals. God is the source of moral laws, he doesn't give out moral behavior favoring some but not others. What a truly assinine concept. It's like saying the government doesn't just make laws but gives others varying degrees of their capacity to adhere to those laws.
Western leaders are morally superior to tyrants because of their behavior. They don't starve their own people or torture them to death if they disagree with you.
I'm really amazed at you who likes to consider himself intelligent being so ignorant and morally confused. But keep talking. As someone said in another thread, "You always deliver."
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So by your reasoning as long as we are friends at the time they can do what they like and if they do something we dont agree with then all bets are off and they are tyrants to be exterminated?
the CIA funded Afghan jihadists under the guise of Operation Cyclone when they were fighting Russia, a few years later the USA send in a kill squad to eliminate Osama Bin Laden
Dont you see its not about taking out leaders because they are despots, its purely for political reasons.
You seriously think these people are kiled because we believe they have skewed morals?
Oh boy, you really don't have any moral compass. Every situation you have to reinvent the wheel as you totally lack any moral foundation. That is the only explanation to explain these comments.
People, groups, countries become allies because they have commonly shared values and/or goals. We allied with Stalin because he was on our side fighting the Axis forces.
The relationship changed because we longer had shared values and goals but conflicting ones. Why do I have to even explain that? I had no idea until now just how messed up you are.
I had a couple of friends that were buddies since they were kids. Then one had a sexual relationship with the other's wife. One betrayed the other. The once common values and interest that bound them was broken and they became bitter enemies. And it doesn't mean one or the other has to be killed. Is that concept too abstruse for you? Too esoteric and perplexing?
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“So water can not be considered wet, under the circumstances that “wet” is an adjective that describes the surface of an object that is covered with water or another liquid, and water can not be covered in itself. On the other hand water is not dry since is a liquid. Water is just water.”
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Oh boy, you really don't have any moral compass. Every situation you have to reinvent the wheel as you totally lack any moral foundation. That is the only explanation to explain these comments.
People, groups, countries become allies because they have commonly shared values and/or goals. We allied with Stalin because he was on our side fighting the Axis forces.
The relationship changed because we longer had shared values and goals but conflicting ones. Why do I have to even explain that? I had no idea until now just how messed up you are.
I had a couple of friends that were buddies since they were kids. Then one had a sexual relationship with the other's wife. One betrayed the other. The once common values and interest that bound them was broken and they became bitter enemies. And it doesn't mean one or the other has to be killed. Is that concept too abstruse for you? Too esoteric and perplexing?
why didnt he turn the other cheek?
Not a very Christian thing to do to hold a vendetta and hate someone is it?
If Gemany had won the war we would be reading the history books very differently , we would have no knowledge of the Holocaust and the stories would be of British and American and Russian soilders killing captive German soilders
You seem to think atrocities are just commited by the enemy.
Now thats a shallow and blinkered view if ever there was one.
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Joswift > Pellius
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why didnt he turn the other cheek?
Not a very Christian thing to do to hold a vendetta and hate someone is it?
If Gemany had won the war we would be reading the history books very differently , we would have no knowledge of the Holocaust and the stories would be of British and American and Russian soilders killing captive German soilders
You seem to think atrocities are just commited by the enemy.
Now thats a shallow and blinkered view if ever there was one.
It's always rich when a non-Christian lectures a Christian on how he should follow his faith. You have no idea what "turn the other cheek" means and it's only your shallowness and ignorance to interpret that to mean unconditional submission. Just like those that believe that "eye for an eye" means pure revenge. Again, quoting the Bible, a book you've never read, is just laughable.
Germany didn't win the war so it's a moot point. Another meaningless comment. You need to think through things before you post.
And where on earth did you get the notion that I think atrocities are only committed by our enemies? Where did I say or even imply that? Another example of a truly vapid and vacant mind that reads more into things and puts words in my mouth to suit your skewed agenda.
The Mai Lei massacre was not committed by our enemy. Neither was the genocide in Rwanda. Remember the Deir Yassin massacre? Of course, you don't despite your veneer of being an educated person who can't spell or write properly.
Keep talking. Keep delivering, nitwit.
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It's always rich when a non-Christian lectures a Christian on how he should follow his faith. You have no idea what "turn the other cheek" means and it's only your shallowness and ignorance to interpret that to mean unconditional submission. Just like those that believe that "eye for an eye" means pure revenge. Again, quoting the Bible, a book you've never read, is just laughable.
Germany didn't win the war so it's a moot point. Another meaningless comment. You need to think through things before you post.
And where on earth did you get the notion that I think atrocities are only committed by our enemies? Where did I say or even imply that? Another example of a truly vapid and vacant mind that reads more into things and puts words in my mouth to suit your skewed agenda.
The Mai Lei massacre was not committed by our enemy. Neither was the genocide in Rwanda. Remember the Deir Yassin massacre? Of course, you don't despite your veneer of being an educated person who can't spell or write properly.
Keep talking. Keep delivering, nitwit.
History is written by the victors....
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Saddam Hussein had rape squads. Employed soldiers for the purpose of raping mothers and daughters to torment those who had offended him. One member of his own cabinet disagreed with him and he was beaten nearly to death, his house bulldozed, his two daughers (one was 11 years old the other 14) and wife repeatedly raped. This is not to mention the countless of his own people he has tortured (some being fed to lions and put in woodchippers feet first).
Kim Jung-un has murdered and tortured his own people and even had killed members of his own family.
Osama bin Laden wanted everyone who did not convert to his religion to be put to death.
And joswift believes that our and other Western leaders are no better or no worse than these tyrants and monsters.
I had no idea he was such a nut job.
Joswift condones this behavior
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Joswift condones this behavior
Nope, just said hes no worse than anyone else in a position of power left unchecked..
Please dont tell me you believe there are people who could not commit the same atrocities given the right set of circumstances.
Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing.
And someone who doesnt believe that is far more dangerous than someone who knows what hes capable of and chooses not to do it.
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Nope, just said hes no worse than anyone else in a position of power left unchecked..
Please dont tell me you believe there are people who could not commit the same atrocities given the right set of circumstances.
Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing.
And someone who doesnt believe that is far more dangerous than someone who knows what hes capable of and chooses not to do it.
It's why our founding fathers gave us the 2nd amendment.
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Joswift condones this behavior
No, I'm not going to do what he, and a few others, do to me, embellish my words and assume things that I did not say.
Saying that two people engaging in the same type of behavior says nothing about whether you approve or condone such behavior. Just as saying one thing is better than something else is not the same as saying you condone or approve either behavior. That's a separate issue. It is quite valid to say you think one thing is better than the other yet dislike both or, conversely, like both but like one better than the other. I like both Coleman and Yates but think Yates is better. I like broccoli better than celery but dislike both.
He is equating our leaders as being morally equivalent to tyrants like Kim Jung-un and Saddam Hussein.
You are aware that those people were no better or worse than any political leaders in the West, you just seem to want to kill people who you disagree with or dont like.
Do you want George Bush and Tony Blair killed?
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Nope, just said hes no worse than anyone else in a position of power left unchecked..
Please dont tell me you believe there are people who could not commit the same atrocities given the right set of circumstances.
Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing.
And someone who doesnt believe that is far more dangerous than someone who knows what hes capable of and chooses not to do it.
I want everybody to pay close attention to these words. Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing.
The implication that the only thing making you a decent person is not your personal value system, moral code, and basic sense of human decency, but just your circumstances. He knows your heart and soul better than you do. The arrogance, ignorance, audacity is just beyond comprehension.
This staggering morally confuse person thinks that you, if given the "right circumstances" would feed people to lions, rape their daughters, behead another human being, set someone on fire and watch them burn them to death...
And, again, soak in this derange moron's thinking "And someone who doesnt believe that is far more dangerous than someone who knows what hes capable of and chooses not to do it."
Yes, YOU, you who are reading this, are far more dangerous because you don't believe under any circumstances you would rape a six-year-old, or saw off the head of another person. YOU'RE the dangerous ones. Because you choose not to act like a monster that makes you the dangerous ones.
God, I love exposing these closet nut jobs.
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He is equating our leaders as being morally equivalent to tyrants like Kim Jung-un and Saddam Hussein.
Suppose now that there were two such magic rings, and the just put on one of them and the unjust the other; no man can be imagined to be of such an iron nature that he would stand fast in justice. No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a god among men.
Then the actions of the just would be as the actions of the unjust; they would both come at last to the same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great proof that a man is just, not willingly or because he thinks that justice is any good to him individually, but of necessity, for wherever any one thinks that he can safely be unjust, there he is unjust.
For all men believe in their hearts that injustice is far more profitable to the individual than justice, and he who argues as I have been supposing, will say that they are right. If you could imagine any one obtaining this power of becoming invisible, and never doing any wrong or touching what was another's, he would be thought by the lookers-on to be a most wretched idiot, although they would praise him to one another's faces, and keep up appearances with one another from a fear that they too might suffer injustice.
— Plato, Republic, 360b–d
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Suppose now that there were two such magic rings, and the just put on one of them and the unjust the other; no man can be imagined to be of such an iron nature that he would stand fast in justice. No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a god among men.
Then the actions of the just would be as the actions of the unjust; they would both come at last to the same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great proof that a man is just, not willingly or because he thinks that justice is any good to him individually, but of necessity, for wherever any one thinks that he can safely be unjust, there he is unjust.
For all men believe in their hearts that injustice is far more profitable to the individual than justice, and he who argues as I have been supposing, will say that they are right. If you could imagine any one obtaining this power of becoming invisible, and never doing any wrong or touching what was another's, he would be thought by the lookers-on to be a most wretched idiot, although they would praise him to one another's faces, and keep up appearances with one another from a fear that they too might suffer injustice.
— Plato, Republic, 360b–d
There are intelligent people who believe in God. There are intelligent people who do not. Plato believed in a planned heavily censored society ruled by a "Philosopher King". He is not the final word on morality and ethics. Plato precedes Christianity and the concept of ethical monotheism. He lived in a time of Polytheism and Pantheism. It's true that if there is no accountability then most humans will tend to be corrupt. That's why we have laws though even that is not foolproof. You believe this because you do not believe in God. The concept of good and bad is meaningless in a cosmic sense. The good and the evil share the same fate and since it's always easier to be bad then that where things will tend. I know in my personal life that I don't do things that I would have rather done and easily get away with, but I don't because it will reflect on my character and weigh against on my day of judgment. It can be something simple.
When I was shopping at Walmart after I paid for my items I was given back my change.
Because the line was long and people were waiting behind me I just kept the money in my hand and headed out to my car. When I got back to my car and started to put the change in my wallet I saw that my change which was supposed to be nine dollars and some change I had instead got one five-dollar bill, three one-dollar bills, and a twenty-dollar bill, along with the coins. It would be so easy and make no difference to Walmart if I kept the extra change but it would make a difference to me. I would be a thief and on my death bed this extra $19 would be so meaningless as I now have to account for my life. In my agonistic days, I would have kept it not so much out of dishonesty, if I realize the mistake at the counter I would have corrected it, but the hassle of having to get out of my car (I was running late) and having to stand back in line for something that was of little consequence just wouldn't be worth it.
To say that the only thing that keeps people from being responsible and the ones actually executing he acts of torture, rape, beheading is simply the circumstances is an insult to all the decent people reading this right now and all the decent people in the world with a moral code. Not everybody will behead another human being or rape a six-year-old under any circumstances. Just because you have no moral code and your acts are completely determined by your circumstances only shows your personal moral corruptness and you project, as is very common, that most people are like you.
They're not. And it is your colossal ego and hubris that presumes you can know what is in another man's heart.
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There are intelligent people who believe in God. There are intelligent people who do not. Plato believed in a planned heavily censored society ruled by a "Philosopher King". He is not the final word on morality and ethics. Plato precedes Christianity and the concept of ethical monotheism. He lived in a time of Polytheism and Pantheism. It's true that if there is no accountability then most humans will tend to be corrupt. That's why we have laws though even that is not foolproof. You believe this because you do not believe in God. The concept of good and bad is meaningless in a cosmic sense. The good and the evil share the same fate and since it's always easier to be bad then that where things will tend. I know in my personal life that I don't do things that I would have rather done and easily get away with, but I don't because it will reflect on my character and weigh against on my day of judgment. It can be something simple.
When I was shopping at Walmart after I paid for my items I was given back my change.
Because the line was long and people were waiting behind me I just kept the money in my hand and headed out to my car. When I got back to my car and started to put the change in my wallet I saw that my change which was supposed to be nine dollars and some change I had instead got one five-dollar bill, three one-dollar bills, and a twenty-dollar bill, along with the coins. It would be so easy and make no difference to Walmart if I kept the extra change but it would make a difference to me. I would be a thief and on my death bed this extra $19 would be so meaningless as I now have to account for my life. In my agonistic days, I would have kept it not so much out of dishonesty, if I realize the mistake at the counter I would have corrected it, but the hassle of having to get out of my car (I was running late) and having to stand back in line for something that was of little consequence just wouldn't be worth it.
To say that the only thing that keeps people from being responsible and the ones actually executing he acts of torture, rape, beheading is simply the circumstances is an insult to all the decent people reading this right now and all the decent people in the world with a moral code. Not everybody will behead another human being or rape a six-year-old under any circumstances. Just because you have no moral code and your acts are completely determined by your circumstances only shows your personal moral corruptness and you project, as is very common, that most people are like you.
They're not. And it is your colossal ego and hubris that presumes you can know what is in another man's heart.
Go read "Ordinary men"
Its the story of a group of men, volounteers who were drafted into the Reserve Police Battalion 101 to help with the clearance of Jews in Poland in 1942.
They were told what was expected (killing pregnant women and children) and were given the option to not do it and step down, almost all of them went ahead, there were a few reasons for that, but the least of those reasons was because they thought they would enjoy it.
Almost everyone looks down on murderers and say "I could never do that", wrong, yes you could...and maybe enjoy it.
You have yourself already admitted to wanting to kill a guy in your neighbourhood.. not many people are ready to admit to that.
People watch Schindlers list and if asked say , Oh I would be like Oscar Shindler, I would save people"... errrr no, no you wouldnt, because people didnt.
Go watch some videos of "The Milgram Experiment"
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Saddam Hussein had rape squads. Employed soldiers for the purpose of raping mothers and daughters to torment those who had offended him. One member of his own cabinet disagreed with him and he was beaten nearly to death, his house bulldozed, his two daughers (one was 11 years old the other 14) and wife repeatedly raped. This is not to mention the countless of his own people he has tortured (some being fed to lions and put in woodchippers feet first).
Kim Jung-un has murdered and tortured his own people and even had killed members of his own family.
Osama bin Laden wanted everyone who did not convert to his religion to be put to death.
And joswift believes that our and other Western leaders are no better or no worse than these tyrants and monsters.
I had no idea he was such a nut job.
You have to understand that this kind of level of stupidity cannot exist in the mentally stable person. To be as stupid as he is, you need to have some kind of mental disorder or mental handicap. This is only way to explain that level of stupidity, which this dimwit presents.
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You have to understand that this kind of level of stupidity cannot exist in the mentally stable person. To be as stupid as he is, you need to have some kind of mental disorder or mental handicap. This is only way to explain that level of stupidity, which this dimwit presents.
leave pellius alone, hes harmless and doesnt need to be attacked by you like that..
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You have to understand that this kind of level of stupidity cannot exist in the mentally stable person. To be as stupid as he is, you need to have some kind of mental disorder or mental handicap. This is only way to explain that level of stupidity, which this dimwit presents.
He is largely correct.We have barely evolved at all in 400 years, but go back that amount of time we'd have all been in the town Square to enjoy a good hanging, or if we were especially lucky a beheading or a drawing and quartering.I always say we are around 2-3 weeks from turning in to savages who would murder to stay alive.An emp taking out the entire electrical grid and killing every electronic device would see us in a walking dead scenario where it's everyman for himself before you could even fully process the situation.Any other view on humanity is naive.Like joswift said Nazi Germany got a whole country to either murder or turn a blind eye to the death of millions, and that was only 80 years ago.
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He is largely correct.We have barely evolved at all in 400 years, but go back that amount of time we'd have all been in the town Square to enjoy a good hanging, or if we were especially lucky a beheading or a drawing and quartering.I always say we are around 2-3 weeks from turning in to savages who would murder to stay alive.An emp taking out the entire electrical grid and killing every electronic device would see us in a walking dead scenario where it's everyman for himself before you could even fully process the situation.Any other view on humanity is naive.Like joswift said Nazi Germany got a whole country to either murder or turn a blind eye to the death of millions, and that was only 80 years ago.
Finally, someone who can objectively look at themselves and see horrors that every one of us is capable of.
Pellius problem is he's to afraid to admit it..
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He is largely correct.We have barely evolved at all in 400 years, but go back that amount of time we'd have all been in the town Square to enjoy a good hanging, or if we were especially lucky a beheading or a drawing and quartering.I always say we are around 2-3 weeks from turning in to savages who would murder to stay alive.An emp taking out the entire electrical grid and killing every electronic device would see us in a walking dead scenario where it's everyman for himself before you could even fully process the situation.Any other view on humanity is naive.Like joswift said Nazi Germany got a whole country to either murder or turn a blind eye to the death of millions, and that was only 80 years ago.
Yes this is exactly what I say - Shut Down all electrical power - No Petrol Pumps No Food supplies No medicines Etc for 4-6 wks max - it’d be a Fight Of Survival - People attacking, Robbing, Killing one another for food ( it'd be quicker than that in Black inner cities as they already Killing one & another in great No.s )
Man hasn’t evolved very much really - This society is very precariously held together.
All these Liberal Leftists/ Snowflakes/ Vegans/ Vegetarians/ Would Either Man the Fuck up Real Quick or Be The 1st Lot To Go.
I’ve planned for it. Just in case. It’d be Kill or Be Killed - The Bigger The Cities the quicker it would deteriorate - Living in the Country would be slightly better.
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There's lots of propaganda out there - the west has perfected it.
Think of Idi Amin's "infamous refridgerator" stories after he pissed of a certain group of blowhards.
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Yes this is exactly what I say - Shut Down all electrical power - No Petrol Pumps No Food supplies No medicines Etc for 4-6 wks max - it’d be a Fight Of Survival - People attacking, Robbing, Killing one another for food ( it'd be quicker than that in Black inner cities as they already Killing one & another in great No.s )
Man hasn’t evolved very much really - This society is very precariously held together.
All these Liberal Leftists/ Snowflakes/ Vegans/ Vegetarians/ Would Either Man the Fuck up Real Quick or Be The 1st Lot To Go.
I’ve planned for it. Just in case. It’d be Kill or Be Killed - The Bigger The Cities the quicker it would deteriorate - Living in the Country would be slightly better.
I'd eat the vegans and vegetarians first. They grass/grain fed, so they're for sure to be tasty. :D
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I'd eat the vegans and vegetarians first. They grass/grain fed, so they're for sure to be tasty. :D
👍🏻 Damn Good idea.
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Go read "Ordinary men"
Its the story of a group of men, volounteers who were drafted into the Reserve Police Battalion 101 to help with the clearance of Jews in Poland in 1942.
They were told what was expected (killing pregnant women and children) and were given the option to not do it and step down, almost all of them went ahead, there were a few reasons for that, but the least of those reasons was because they thought they would enjoy it.
Almost everyone looks down on murderers and say "I could never do that", wrong, yes you could...and maybe enjoy it.
You have yourself already admitted to wanting to kill a guy in your neighbourhood.. not many people are ready to admit to that.
People watch Schindlers list and if asked say , Oh I would be like Oscar Shindler, I would save people"... errrr no, no you wouldnt, because people didnt.
Go watch some videos of "The Milgram Experiment"
Go read the Bible.
Wanting to do something is far, far different than doing it. That's what makes a man civilized. You really have no moral compass and foundation. You insult and piss on all the brave men and women throughout history that, when tested, behaved with honor, courage, and, yes, goodness. People who sacrificed themselves for the sake of others -- often complete strangers. Just because you have no moral foundation and don't believe in an absolute moral right and moral wrong, and are just a monster unable to control himself given the situation don't project it onto others. Not everybody is like you. As our world grows more secular and moral relativism and moral confusion ever increases there are still decent and good people left in this world. Not perfect. We all do bad things, but we are not all monsters that will behead, torture, or rape children under certain conditions.
I really don't think anybody from reading your posts would ever have imagined the extent of how debauched, morally corrupt, pernicious, and malevolent a person you really are.
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You have to understand that this kind of level of stupidity cannot exist in the mentally stable person. To be as stupid as he is, you need to have some kind of mental disorder or mental handicap. This is only way to explain that level of stupidity, which this dimwit presents.
I don't think necessarily mentally ill it's having no moral sense. No value system to guide him but just personal opinion based on current circumstances. That's what makes him so incredibly shallow and empty.
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He is largely correct.We have barely evolved at all in 400 years, but go back that amount of time we'd have all been in the town Square to enjoy a good hanging, or if we were especially lucky a beheading or a drawing and quartering.I always say we are around 2-3 weeks from turning in to savages who would murder to stay alive.An emp taking out the entire electrical grid and killing every electronic device would see us in a walking dead scenario where it's everyman for himself before you could even fully process the situation.Any other view on humanity is naive.Like joswift said Nazi Germany got a whole country to either murder or turn a blind eye to the death of millions, and that was only 80 years ago.
You fail to understand, what I think is a very basic concept, the argument here. It's not that there are bad people and that if decent society collapses all hell would break loose. That's why we have laws and people that enforce them. The argument here is that no one is any better or worse than someone else. Do you believe that? Every time they post a bunch of ape-like Hebrews committing horrible and disgusting crimes that you are no better than they are. You just haven't been put in their situation and if you were you would be the exact same way. If that was the case, how can anybody be responsible for anything when their actions are already coded in their DNA and expressed solely by their circumstances. Can conceive of a situation where you would rape a 7-year-old little girl and then bury her alive?
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Yes this is exactly what I say - Shut Down all electrical power - No Petrol Pumps No Food supplies No medicines Etc for 4-6 wks max - it’d be a Fight Of Survival - People attacking, Robbing, Killing one another for food ( it'd be quicker than that in Black inner cities as they already Killing one & another in great No.s )
Man hasn’t evolved very much really - This society is very precariously held together.
All these Liberal Leftists/ Snowflakes/ Vegans/ Vegetarians/ Would Either Man the Fuck up Real Quick or Be The 1st Lot To Go.
I’ve planned for it. Just in case. It’d be Kill or Be Killed - The Bigger The Cities the quicker it would deteriorate - Living in the Country would be slightly better.
Again, refer to my previous post. Do you think you are no better or no worse than the animals and monsters we hear about? That it is only due to circumstances that you are not the same way? If that were the case why should anybody be held responsible for their actions when it's already encoded in their DNA and circumstances? They simply cannot in any other way. Given the circumstances, you can just as easily due the most cruel things imaginable that monsters masquerading as human beings do. You'll just as easily cut off the balls and other body parts of a 17-year-old boy because he doesn't belong to you gang? If you were in that gang you would just go along with it because you don't think you have a value system that overrides such human depravity?
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Go read "Ordinary men"
Its the story of a group of men, volounteers who were drafted into the Reserve Police Battalion 101 to help with the clearance of Jews in Poland in 1942.
They were told what was expected (killing pregnant women and children) and were given the option to not do it and step down, almost all of them went ahead, there were a few reasons for that, but the least of those reasons was because they thought they would enjoy it.
Almost everyone looks down on murderers and say "I could never do that", wrong, yes you could...and maybe enjoy it.
You have yourself already admitted to wanting to kill a guy in your neighbourhood.. not many people are ready to admit to that.
People watch Schindlers list and if asked say , Oh I would be like Oscar Shindler, I would save people"... errrr no, no you wouldnt, because people didnt.
Go watch some videos of "The Milgram Experiment"
Really? Again you piss on and disgrace all those brave men and women that risked and even sacrifice their lives to save perfect strangers throughout history. People in Nazi Germany did help and risk -- and lost -- their lives trying to save Jews. First-hand stories are told about how they were able to flee Germany with the help of others. Some even hid Jewish families within their own homes at great risk to themselves. Maybe you should read "The Diary of Anne Frank".
The way you dismissed all the good people throughout history and today who have sacrificed their lives to save others. You truly are a despicable and morally corrupt person.
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Again, refer to my previous post. Do you think you are no better or no worse than the animals and monsters we hear about? That it is only due to circumstances that you are not the same way? If that were the case why should anybody be held responsible for their actions when it's already encoded in their DNA and circumstances? They simply cannot in any other way. Given the circumstances, you can just as easily due the most cruel things imaginable that monsters masquerading as human beings do. You'll just as easily cut off the balls and other body parts of a 17-year-old boy because he doesn't belong to you gang? If you were in that gang you would just go along with it because you don't think you have a value system that overrides such human depravity?
Cleary we are Better at Behaving & Not Doing Such Atrocious Acts. Or we’d be out Doing them Now.
Sadly some are.
My point is - Society is held together by a very thin Veneer & IF / When Things Breakdown Most
Will do whatever they have to to Survive - I believe far more are capable of murder & killings & despicable
Deeds if they
1, Had to Survive
2, There was No Repercussions
Sadly there are a lot of Sickos out there that hold it together because they’re scared of being caught / repercussions.
I’m honest enough to acknowledge that the Human Species really hasn’t evolved/ progressed very far
When the Going gets tough - our Animal / Survival instincts kick in.
Why did so many partake in the horrors of German Death Camps & All The Other Murderous atrocities since when they could’ve avoided doing so??
I’d be Very Very Surprised if you didn’t agree with Me on this.
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Cleary we are Better at Behaving & Not Doing Such Atrocious Acts. Or we’d be out Doing them Now.
Sadly some are.
My point is - Society is held together by a very thin Veneer & IF / When Things Breakdown Most
Will do whatever they have to to Survive - I believe far more are capable of murder & killings & despicable
Deeds if they
1, Had to Survive
2, There was No Repercussions
Sadly there are a lot of Sickos out there that hold it together because they’re scared of being caught / repercussions.
I’m honest enough to acknowledge that the Human Species really hasn’t evolved/ progressed very far
When the Going gets tough - our Animal / Survival instincts kick in.
Why did so many partake in the horrors of German Death Camps & All The Other Murderous atrocities since when they could’ve avoided doing so??
I’d be Very Very Surprised if you didn’t agree with Me on this.
I do agree with this but that is not what we are talking about. It's the notion that everybodu is no better or no worse than anybody else.
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I do agree with this but that is not what we are talking about. It's the notion that everybodu is no better or no worse than anybody else.
Thanks 👍🏻
My Bad - Very Clearly Some People are very decent & some are walking scumbags intent on doing bad things whenever possible.
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You fail to understand, what I think is a very basic concept, the argument here. It's not that there are bad people and that if decent society collapses all hell would break loose. That's why we have laws and people that enforce them. The argument here is that no one is any better or worse than someone else. Do you believe that? Every time they post a bunch of ape-like Hebrews committing horrible and disgusting crimes that you are no better than they are. You just haven't been put in their situation and if you were you would be the exact same way. If that was the case, how can anybody be responsible for anything when their actions are already coded in their DNA and expressed solely by their circumstances. Can conceive of a situation where you would rape a 7-year-old little girl and then bury her alive?
The argument here is that no one is any better or worse than someone else.
No, thats not the argument, the argument is that everyone is capable of the same atrocities given the right circumstances
Can conceive of a situation where you would rape a 7-year-old little girl and then bury her alive?
Did Hitler , Saddam, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin do that?
To do that you have to be a pedophile, are you arguing that isnt hard wired in?
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Again, refer to my previous post. Do you think you are no better or no worse than the animals and monsters we hear about? That it is only due to circumstances that you are not the same way? If that were the case why should anybody be held responsible for their actions when it's already encoded in their DNA and circumstances? They simply cannot in any other way. Given the circumstances, you can just as easily due the most cruel things imaginable that monsters masquerading as human beings do. You'll just as easily cut off the balls and other body parts of a 17-year-old boy because he doesn't belong to you gang? If you were in that gang you would just go along with it because you don't think you have a value system that overrides such human depravity?
Yes, yes you would, to all thoise questions... you just dont want to admit that you could do it, what are you scared of?
Just because you make choices not to do those things doesnt mean you wouldnt do it...
You havent kiled your neighbour yet, but it could happen given the right circumstances..
I myself dont want to kill anyone, you have already admitted you would do it if you could get away with it, your moral compass is already skewed..
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I don't think necessarily mentally ill it's having no moral sense. No value system to guide him but just personal opinion based on current circumstances. That's what makes him so incredibly shallow and empty.
Missing my point completely? Let me explain: Intelligence is the most ruling part of human behaviour, and lack of it make people do silly things. Stupid things, like all of us do every now and then. But when you combine stupidity to complete ignorance, spite and total absence of logic, it goes so far beyond stupidity, that it can't be done without mental illness or handicap. So if it is impossible to be as stupid as dimwit is, and still alive, there has to be logical explanation for this miracle, and that is simple: there has to be caretaker looking after that ape, so he doesn't hurt himself. You know, someone who tell him when breath in, when breath out.. ;D
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I have no dog in this "fight" got the utmost respect for both of these fine gentlemen.
Not that it`s a fight per se` !
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Missing my point completely? Let me explain: Intelligence is the most ruling part of human behaviour, and lack of it make people do silly things. Stupid things, like all of us do every now and then. But when you combine stupidity to complete ignorance, spite and total absence of logic, it goes so far beyond stupidity, that it can't be done without mental illness or handicap. So if it is impossible to be as stupid as dimwit is, and still alive, there has to be logical explanation for this miracle, and that is simple: there has to be caretaker looking after that ape, so he doesn't hurt himself. You know, someone who tell him when breath in, when breath out.. ;D
So, you believe everything I have written makes me to dumb to live in a world without me having someone to tell me to breath in and out..
OK.. everything I have written is based on listening to Jordan Peterson and the "Shadow" by Carl Jung.
If Im that level stupid then Im in good company..
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Go read "Ordinary men"
Its the story of a group of men, volounteers who were drafted into the Reserve Police Battalion 101 to help with the clearance of Jews in Poland in 1942.
They were told what was expected (killing pregnant women and children) and were given the option to not do it and step down, almost all of them went ahead, there were a few reasons for that, but the least of those reasons was because they thought they would enjoy it.
Almost everyone looks down on murderers and say "I could never do that", wrong, yes you could...and maybe enjoy it.
You have yourself already admitted to wanting to kill a guy in your neighbourhood.. not many people are ready to admit to that.
People watch Schindlers list and if asked say , Oh I would be like Oscar Shindler, I would save people"... errrr no, no you wouldnt, because people didnt.
Go watch some videos of "The Milgram Experiment"
Damn I’d forgotten about the Milgram Experiment - It’s a Very Compelling Argument
To why so many do such horrible things to others - Because of Authority/ They’re told to -
Like That makes it OK or They’re Not Responsible 🙄🙄🙄
Goes to show what simple Creatures we are & how easy to Manipulate.
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Nothing surprises or shocks me anymore.
Been living in Sweden for 50 years and seen it driven to sheit.
You could take a picture of Sweden from the 70s next to one from 2020 and you wouldn't believe it was the same country.
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Nothing surprises or shocks me anymore.
Been living in Sweden for 50 years and seen it driven to sheit.
You could take a picture of Sweden from the 70s next to one from 2020 and you wouldn't believe it was the same country.
Really - That’s a Very sad indictment
And this is Manily Because of EU / Liberal Leftists Policy ??
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Nothing surprises or shocks me anymore.
Been living in Sweden for 50 years and seen it driven to sheit.
You could take a picture of Sweden from the 70s next to one from 2020 and you wouldn't believe it was the same country.
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Nothing surprises or shocks me anymore.
Been living in Sweden for 50 years and seen it driven to sheit.
You could take a picture of Sweden from the 70s next to one from 2020 and you wouldn't believe it was the same country.
You're not alone but it's obvious that Sweden took one of the biggest hits.
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Yes, yes you would, to all thoise questions... you just dont want to admit that you could do it, what are you scared of?
Just because you make choices not to do those things doesnt mean you wouldnt do it...
You havent kiled your neighbour yet, but it could happen given the right circumstances..
I myself dont want to kill anyone, you have already admitted you would do it if you could get away with it, your moral compass is already skewed..
Your torrential flow of illogical is almost fascinating. You can't speak for me. You don't know what's in my heart or anybody else's. It's your staggering conceit and hubris that thinks you can. And the idea that I would rather die than do certain acts, as many do and have, means that I am afraid? What a warped point of view you have. And the fact that I don't do something bad that I would want to do means exactly that I have a moral compass that guides, not my thoughts, but my actions. What's fascinating is that you are so oblivious to this obvious example that proves just the opposite that makes you so morally confuse and illogical.
And the fact that I do make choices not to do something that I would rather not do is the perfect example that I wouldn't do it. I don't judge people by what they feel or desire but what they do. This even applies to the most mundane things. I may not feel like going to the gym but by choice I do. Most natural human desires are not good or noble. It is more natural and easier to be lazy, selfish, greedy, dishonest... Part of being a moral and decent person is overcoming these traits even if you can get away with it without anybody knowing. You obviously have never been taught this, hence, you have no moral foundation and only a product of your nature and circumstances.
But keep talking. Keep telling us what you believe and what kind of person you are. Keep "delivering".
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The argument here is that no one is any better or worse than someone else.
No, thats not the argument, the argument is that everyone is capable of the same atrocities given the right circumstances
Can conceive of a situation where you would rape a 7-year-old little girl and then bury her alive?
Did Hitler , Saddam, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin do that?
To do that you have to be a pedophile, are you arguing that isnt hard wired in?
These, to use ND's favorite expression, "your words". If you want to retract them then please do. And Saddam had rape squads whose job was to rape enemies to torture and humiliate them and that included, men, women, and children. He knew the horror and torture it would be to have parents watch as their little sons and daughters are gang-raped. You don't have to be a hard wired homo or pedo to rape them if it's your job and you want to inflict torture. But it doesn't matter, according to you we are all hardwired the same to commit evil.
"You are aware that those people were no better or worse than any political leaders in the West"
"Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing."
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Damn I’d forgotten about the Milgram Experiment - It’s a Very Compelling Argument
To why so many do such horrible things to others - Because of Authority/ They’re told to -
Like That makes it OK or They’re Not Responsible 🙄🙄🙄
Goes to show what simple Creatures we are & how easy to Manipulate.
I remember that experiment very well. It didn't surprise me. One of the problems this country is having is that they assume most people want to be free. Actually, most people want to be taken care of and have decisions made for them that's why Socialism is so attractive to so many people -- but not all.
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So, you believe everything I have written makes me to dumb to live in a world without me having someone to tell me to breath in and out..
OK.. everything I have written is based on listening to Jordan Peterson and the "Shadow" by Carl Jung.
If Im that level stupid then Im in good company..
That's what you say, anyway. But as we all know, you are full of shit, so what difference it makes what you say? Even my cat is listening when someone is talking, and I bet that it understand it better than you, with those crap filled brains of yours. And that is the point: you can listen who ever you want, but because your main problem is understanding, it doesn't help you at all. You should listen Samuel Colt, just like you always do, let his words go in one ear, and out from the other.. ;D
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These, to use ND's favorite expression, "your words".
There is an especially egregious homeless person in our neighborhood that I wish was dead. If I didn't believe it was a sin I would put a bullet in his wretched head and go to sleep knowing that I, in a small way made, the world a better place. And no one would give a shit but breathe a sigh of relief.
that's pretty much what Hitler said about the Jews.,..
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These, to use ND's favorite expression, "your words". If you want to retract them then please do. And Saddam had rape squads whose job was to rape enemies to torture and humiliate them and that included, men, women, and children. He knew the horror and torture it would be to have parents watch as their little sons and daughters are gang-raped. You don't have to be a hard wired homo or pedo to rape them if it's your job and you want to inflict torture. But it doesn't matter, according to you we are all hardwired the same to commit evil.
"You are aware that those people were no better or worse than any political leaders in the West"
"Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing."
And the guards in the concentration camps were just family men who loved their wives and children.
So were the soldiers involved in the Nanking Massacre.
So were the soilders working under Pol Pot
So were the soilders and police working for Adi Amin
Not monsters, not psychopaths, just regular guys like you and me who likely didnt even think they were capable of doing what they did..
A large majority of traumatised veterans are not traumatised by what they have seen, its what they have done...
You keep believing that people are morally sound , even you yourself dont show yourself as a shining example of morality
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Your torrential flow of illogical is almost fascinating. You can't speak for me. You don't know what's in my heart or anybody else's. It's your staggering conceit and hubris that thinks you can. And the idea that I would rather die than do certain acts, as many do and have, means that I am afraid. What a warped point of view you have. And the fact that I don't do something bad that I would want to do means exactly that I have a moral compass that guides, not my thoughts, but my actions. What's fascination is that you are so oblivious to this obvious example that proves just the opposite that makes you so morally confuse and illogical.
And the fact that I do make choices not to do something that I would rather not do is the perfect example that I wouldn't do it. I don't judge people by what they feel or desire but what they do. This even applies to the most mundane things. I may not feel like going to the gym but by choice I do. Most natural human desires are not good or noble. It is more natural and easier to be lazy, selfish, greedy, dishonest... Part of being a moral and decent person is overcoming these traits even if you can get away with it without anybody knowing. You obviously have never been taught this, hence, you have no moral foundation and only a product of your nature and circumstances.
But keep talking. Keep telling us what you believe and what kind of person you are. Keep "delivering".
the poor, hungry, homeless bum you physically attacked outside the burger joint a few months back over nothing, what would you have done to him if he and his friends raped and killed a family member of yours during war?
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that's pretty much what Hitler said about the Jews.,..
No, he didn't. He actually had Jews killed.
God, you're an idiot who shows time and again the ability to think logically.
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And the guards in the concentration camps were just family men who loved their wives and children.
So were the soldiers involved in the Nanking Massacre.
So were the soilders working under Pol Pot
So were the soilders and police working for Adi Amin
Not monsters, not psychopaths, just regular guys like you and me who likely didnt even think they were capable of doing what they did..
A large majority of traumatised veterans are not traumatised by what they have seen, its what they have done...
You keep believing that people are morally sound , even you yourself dont show yourself as a shining example of morality
Your level of understanding and comprehension is almost beyond nonexistent. I don't know how many times I have to say it? It's like you're a child. The argument is not that that immoral people don't exist. That given certain circumstances they will behave like animals. The argument is that you claim that everybody is the same. That no one person is better than another and given certain circumstances we would all do the same acts of evil. Can you understand that? Do I have to type slower? Type all in caps?
And the idea that a person can't be a "shining example of morality" because they have evil thoughts just shows how little understanding of the whole concept of morality. It's not what you think or feel but what you actually do, your actions, that determines what kind of person you are.
This simple concept just seems beyond your level of understanding.
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the poor, hungry, homeless bum you physically attacked outside the burger joint a few months back over nothing, what would you have done to him if he and his friends raped a killed a family member of yours during war?
Over nothing? What kind of man are you? Jeeze man, grow a pair.
Men have become so emasculated and pussified these days.
So, just to be clear, you agree with joswift's point of view?
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Over nothing? What kind of man are you? Jeeze man, grow a pair.
Men have become so emasculated and pussified these days.
So, just to be clear, you agree with joswift's point of view?
I agree with what you did, id have likely have done the same.But at the end of the day you resorted to violence which could of ended in death, basically over nothing when you really look at it.People die from single punches every week.But its a slippery slope humans have where violence can escalate very quickly.The highly moral would have said the correct thing to do would be to walk away, or find a safe place and call the police.Theres also the other viewpoint where this was a starving homeless man and you were overindulging on 2 burgers.Had that same situation happened in a world without law, a broken down society, it could have ended with you stamping the guys head in to the concrete to survive.And then the act would become normal as it would need to be repeated to survive.Like joswift said, we are all capable of things we cant imagine.
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Joswift - Quote
“And the guards in the concentration camps were just family men who loved their wives and children.
So were the soldiers involved in the Nanking Massacre.
So were the soilders working under Pol Pot
So were the soilders and police working for Adi Amin
Not monsters, not psychopaths, just regular guys like you and me who likely didnt even think they were capable of doing what they did..
A large majority of traumatised veterans are not traumatised by what they have seen, its what they have done...
You keep believing that people are morally sound , even you yourself dont show yourself as a shining example of morality”
Pellius - Quote
“Your level of understanding and comprehension is almost beyond nonexistent. I don't know how many times I have to say it? It's like you're a child. The argument is not that that immoral people don't exist. That given certain circumstances they will behave like animals. The argument is that you claim that everybody is the same. That no one person is better than another and given certain circumstances we would all do the same acts of evil. Can you understand that? Do I have to type slower? Type all in caps?
And the idea that a person can't be a "shining example of morality" because they have evil thoughts just shows how little understanding of the whole concept of morality. It's not what you think or feel but what you actually do, your actions, that determines what kind of person you are.
This simple concept just seems beyond your level of understanding.”
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You both have excellent points - Clearly the Milgram experiment & The Many Atrocious acts carried out by otherwise Normal Decent Soldiers - Go To Prove how easily we can be fooled into becoming monsters to one another.
And yes there are examples of others not succumbing/ Willing to do such things.
Without a doubt we are all different - But as a Species the Vast Majority given the right Circumstances
will easily Become Horrible Unrecognisable Monsters - Sadly there is No doubt about that from the evidence
Of all the atrocities committed in Wars both past & Present.
We haven’t really evolved very far - The Facts Bare that out.
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Over nothing? What kind of man are you? Jeeze man, grow a pair.
Men have become so emasculated and pussified these days.
So, just to be clear, you agree with joswift's point of view?
hahaha you just keep validating my point for me, you are one step away from a monster.
Fucks sake mate, put your mask back on, everyone can see the real you.
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I'm not reading 5 pages of this. Who is the child molester? Who is the Nazi and radical Islamic terrorism sympathizer?
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I'm not reading 5 pages of this. Who is the child molester? Who is the Nazi and radical Islamic terrorism sympathizer?
the same family man who loves his wife and kids...
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Joswift - Quote
“And the guards in the concentration camps were just family men who loved their wives and children.
So were the soldiers involved in the Nanking Massacre.
So were the soilders working under Pol Pot
So were the soilders and police working for Adi Amin
Not monsters, not psychopaths, just regular guys like you and me who likely didnt even think they were capable of doing what they did..
A large majority of traumatised veterans are not traumatised by what they have seen, its what they have done...
You keep believing that people are morally sound , even you yourself dont show yourself as a shining example of morality”
Pellius - Quote
“Your level of understanding and comprehension is almost beyond nonexistent. I don't know how many times I have to say it? It's like you're a child. The argument is not that that immoral people don't exist. That given certain circumstances they will behave like animals. The argument is that you claim that everybody is the same. That no one person is better than another and given certain circumstances we would all do the same acts of evil. Can you understand that? Do I have to type slower? Type all in caps?
And the idea that a person can't be a "shining example of morality" because they have evil thoughts just shows how little understanding of the whole concept of morality. It's not what you think or feel but what you actually do, your actions, that determines what kind of person you are.
This simple concept just seems beyond your level of understanding.”
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You both have excellent points - Clearly the Milgram experiment & The Many Atrocious acts carried out by otherwise Normal Decent Soldiers - Go To Prove how easily we can be fooled into becoming monsters to one another.
And yes there are examples of others not succumbing/ Willing to do such things.
Without a doubt we are all different - But as a Species the Vast Majority given the right Circumstances
will easily Become Horrible Unrecognisable Monsters - Sadly there is No doubt about that from the evidence
Of all the atrocities committed in Wars both past & Present.
We haven’t really evolved very far - The Facts Bare that out.
Actually, the Pol Pot regime mostly used teenagers because they were easier to indoctrinate.
For instance in Tol Sleng, the school transformed into a torture and murder facility of political prisoners, most of the torturers were teenagers, some maybe 14 or 15 or so, basically children.
They were taught what they were doing was right, and the people, including women, young children and babies they slowly tortured to death deserved it.
In the Killing Fields they had a tree where they specifically bashed babies heads to kill them. The other people were mostly beaten to death by clubs or digging tools.
I've been there myself, you can still see teeth and bits of bones and clothing lying everywhere. The people literally had their teeth smashed out and skulls and jaws cracked apart as they were beaten to death. Thousands of them.
So people can make of that what they want.
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I agree with what you did, id have likely have done the same.But at the end of the day you resorted to violence which could of ended in death, basically over nothing when you really look at it.People die from single punches every week.But its a slippery slope humans have where violence can escalate very quickly.The highly moral would have said the correct thing to do would be to walk away, or find a safe place and call the police.Theres also the other viewpoint where this was a starving homeless man and you were overindulging on 2 burgers.Had that same situation happened in a world without law, a broken down society, it could have ended with you stamping the guys head in to the concrete to survive.And then the act would become normal as it would need to be repeated to survive.Like joswift said, we are all capable of things we cant imagine.
That's where we disagree. To me, it is not nothing. The reason people are getting more and more indecent, aggressive, disrespectful is because we allow it. I remember when I was a kid and some bum started to take a piss at the bus stop people around started yelling at him. Telling him to get out of there. Calling him disgusting. He quickly zipped up and hustled out of there real quick. We didn't except then and it was more rare. To you, someone exposing themselves and acting in a threatening manner should not be allowed. At a movie or store when I see someone cut in line I say something. When there were a group of Marines at a Burger King talking so loud and swearing with every other word and there were families with little kids that had to hear that I say something. I can see everybody in the joint shifting uncomfortable. The father just looks at his daughter who looked scared and just shook his head. The rest of you can remain quiet and just take it like little cowardly sheep but not me.
I can't change the world. I need everybody on my side but most people talk big but are cowards. But I can do my part to keep my little corner of it free of all this rampant incivility that people so passively accept or at least put up a fight. They, you, don't think it matters. I do.
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hahaha you just keep validating my point for me, you are one step away from a monster.
Fucks sake mate, put your mask back on, everyone can see the real you.
As you keep validating my point.
And one step away is a big difference than actually taking that step. I'm not going to behead someone or feed them to lions, or mutilate a teenager's body for not being in my gang.
Maybe you are simply a product of your environment with no free will but not me.
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Actually, the Pol Pot regime mostly used teenagers because they were easier to indoctrinate.
For instance in Tol Sleng, the school transformed into a torture and murder facility of political prisoners, most of the torturers were teenagers, some maybe 14 or 15 or so, basically children.
They were taught what they were doing was right, and the people, including women, young children and babies they slowly tortured to death deserved it.
In the Killing Fields they had a tree where they specifically bashed babies heads to kill them. The other people were mostly beaten to death by clubs or digging tools.
I've been there myself, you can still see teeth and bits of bones and clothing lying everywhere. The people literally had their teeth smashed out and skulls and jaws cracked apart as they were beaten to death. Thousands of them.
So people can make of that what they want.
Yes, I saw this first hand in South America when I was with the DOD. The theory was, and they were correct, that it was easier to manipulate a young teenager to do things that adults would have a harder time doing because at that age they haven't fully developed a moral sense. Something that actually exists and influences human behavior.
A who had trouble keeping up with the march to a POW camp. She explained to one of the teen soldiers who was said to be 13 years old that she was pregnant. The teenager said something to the effect, "Oh, I understand. You're carrying an additional load. Let me help you with that." And with his bayonet, he cut into the woman's womb and scooped out the fetus.
Not everybody can do that regardless of the circumstances.
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Actually, the Pol Pot regime mostly used teenagers because they were easier to indoctrinate.
For instance in Tol Sleng, the school transformed into a torture and murder facility of political prisoners, most of the torturers were teenagers, some maybe 14 or 15 or so, basically children.
They were taught what they were doing was right, and the people, including women, young children and babies they slowly tortured to death deserved it.
In the Killing Fields they had a tree where they specifically bashed babies heads to kill them. The other people were mostly beaten to death by clubs or digging tools.
I've been there myself, you can still see teeth and bits of bones and clothing lying everywhere. The people literally had their teeth smashed out and skulls and jaws cracked apart as they were beaten to death. Thousands of them.
So people can make of that what they want.
Can you conceive of a situation where you would do the exact same thing?
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As you keep validating my point.
And one step away is a big difference than actually taking that step. I'm not going to behead someone or feed them to lions, or mutilate a teenager's body for not being in my gang.
Maybe you are simply a product of your environment with no free will but not me.
you have a desire to put a bullet in a hobos head because he's not in your gang, its just prison that stops you
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Can you conceive of a situation where you would do the exact same thing?
If you asked the people who have done it that question they would likely say no
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I'm not reading 5 pages of this. Who is the child molester? Who is the Nazi and radical Islamic terrorism sympathizer?
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My man Kwon with the thread save !!
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If you asked the people who have done it that question they would likely say no
Of course, most people will. Unlike you, they believe their fate isn't completely controlled by outside circumstances and have free will to make moral decisions.
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Of course, most people will. Unlike you, they believe their fate isn't completely controlled by outside circumstances and have free will to make moral decisions.
you missed the point.
The people who did the atrocities would say they didnt think they could do it.
I have no idea why you are arguing this point anymore, you yourself;f are closer to a monster than most on here, you have already admitted you would murder someone given the opportunity, most people here dont want to kill anyone
You are living proof of my theory.
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oh, so now morality has different levels?
Right OK... will God forgive him for all his infidelities?
You are either morally sound or you are not, when God gave us our morals did he share them out equally or did Western leaders get over their fair share?
Of course morality has different levels.....Any sane person acknowledges this.
Do you equate killing/torture with shoplifting? Jeez....
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Of course morality has different levels.....Any sane person acknowledges this.
Do you equate killing/torture with shoplifting? Jeez....
legally yes, morally no...
In the eyes of God every one of us has broke all the 10 commandments
we are all as guilty as each other..
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legally yes, morally no...
In the eyes of God every one of us has broke all the 10 commandments
we are all as guilty as each other..
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Dude....You are mentally ill.
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Dude....You are mentally ill.
great counter argument...
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you missed the point.
The people who did the atrocities would say they didnt think they could do it.
I have no idea why you are arguing this point anymore, you yourself;f are closer to a monster than most on here, you have already admitted you would murder someone given the opportunity, most people here dont want to kill anyone
You are living proof of my theory.
No, you are just factually wrong. The more you write the more I realize that you really are not a very intelligent person, not a clear thinker.
You really think Kim Jung un, Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot really thought he didn't have it in him to torture and murderer people? You're really that naive and out of it?
And the idea that I may have evil thoughts but don't act on it makes me worse than you who admits that the only reason you haven't done any cruel acts is that you simply haven't been put in that circumstance but if you were then you would, as you believe we all would.
Is there anybody here that believes this? That the only reason you are not a monster is not that you have a moral code that trumps your base desires but that you just haven't been put in a circumstance or situation and if you were you would be no different than a murderer and rapist?
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No, you are just factually wrong. The more you write the more I realize that you really are not a very intelligent person, not a clear thinker.
You really think Kim Jung un, Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot really thought he didn't have it in him to torture and murderer people? You're really that naive and out of it?
And the idea that I may have evil thoughts but don't act on it makes me worse than you who admits that the only reason you haven't done any cruel acts is that you simply haven't been put in that circumstance but if you were then you would, as you believe we all would.
Is there anybody here that believes this? That the only reason you are not a monster is not that you have a moral code that trumps your base desires but that you just haven't been put in a circumstance or situation and if you were you would be no different than a murderer and rapist?
Maybe JOSWIFT is not intelligent, but what about Simple Simon, UKJEFF or Be There?
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Dude....You are mentally ill.
I am beginning to think the same. It's not just having no moral training or foundation. Anybody, whether they believe in God or not, understands that there are gradations of evil both morally and legally. Stealing a snickers bar from a liquor store is not treated the same as robbing a bank at gunpoint or bilking someone out of their life savings both legally and morally. How can anybody think differently? You have to be really twisted to deny something so abundantly obvious. Even a child knows that some things are worse than others and should be treated differently. This very basic moral concept has somehow alluded this morally confused and twisted narcissist.
Even the law has different classifications contingent on the gravity of the offense such as a felony and a misdemeanor. In Christianity, they distinguish between Venial and Mortal sins.
Joswift is not just speaking about things he obviously knows nothing about but even his instincts indicate a very twisted and warped mind.
But, me, the one who has a moral code to guide him and do my best to adhere to, one that has had a huge influence on how l live and my actual behavior -- I'm the dangerous one.
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I am beginning to think the same. It's not just having no moral training or foundation. Anybody, whether they believe in God or not, understands that there are gradations of evil both morally and legally. Stealing a snickers bar from a liquor store is not treated the same as robbing a bank at gunpoint or bilking someone out of their life savings both legally and morally. How can anybody think differently? You have to be really twisted to deny something so abundantly obvious. Even a child knows that some things are worse than others and should be treated differently. This very basic moral concept has somehow alluded this morally confused and twisted narcissist.
Even the law has different classifications contingent on the gravity of the offense such as a felony and a misdemeanor. In Christianity, they distinguish between Venial and Mortal sins.
Joswift is not just speaking about things he obviously knows nothing about but even his instincts indicate a very twisted and warped mind.
But, me, the one who has a moral code to guide him and do my best to adhere to, one that has had a huge influence on how l live and my actual behavior -- I'm the dangerous one.
You keep bleating on about moral codes and how it makes you a better person.
You think Saddam and Pol Pol and Kim Jong were always monsters?
Do you think when they were children they had the same thoughts and desires?
Do you think Hitler was going to school plotting the elimination of millions of people?
You want to argue about the differing severity of the Ten Commandments, tell me, are they in any sort of order of severity, your God gave them in that order, he didnt say one was worse than the other, people decided that...
Some people will even stand by and watch their friends rape and abuse a 13 year old girl, now that really is some level of depravity..
Im sure your God will forgive you your trespasses when the time comes, Im sure we will meet up in heaven when you have spent time in purgatory cleansing your stained soul...
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Maybe JOSWIFT is not intelligent, but what about Simple Simon, UKJEFF or Be There?
yes, we get it, its not news to anyone.
Fucks sake mate, change the record..
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yes, we get it, its not news to anyone.
Fucks sake mate, change the record..
Let me give you a little surprise: If you talk, walk, act and behave like an idiot, people start to believe that you are an idiot. Who could have guessed this miraculous thing? And whose fault is that? ;D ::) ;D
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Let me give you a little surprise: If you talk, walk, act and behave like an idiot, people start to believe that you are an idiot. Who could have guessed this miraculous thing? And whose fault is that? ;D ::) ;D
amazingly no one on here has ever seen me do any of those things, I only write on here,,
Oh, and calling someone an idiot isnt really a counter argument to the points raised..
watch and learn..
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great counter argument...
Sorry, maybe I was a little too blunt.
You are either insane or incredibly stupid.
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Sorry, maybe I was a little too blunt.
You are either insane or incredibly stupid.
Oh right, now you put it like that it makes it an incredibly difficult position to argue against.
that must have taken a lot on your part to make that un-rebuttable argument.
Hats off to you..
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Camp guard comment..
During the Nuremberg trials, a former prisoner rose to take the stand. When he looked at the accused (I forgot name), the old man fainted. When later he was asked why he fainted he said " When we were in the camps we thought these men as gods.. with the power over life and death. When I saw him (accused) again I realized he was just a man. I am just a man.. So if he could do all that he did, then I could do the same things".
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you have a desire to put a bullet in a hobos head because he's not in your gang, its just prison that stops you
I don't have a gang. Why do you just make things up? And, no, prison isn't stopping me. You don't seem to catch on too quick, do you? Most murders are not solved. I could easily kill this person and get away with it. There is no personal connection between us. He's a blight on the neighborhood and no one would give a shit. It won't be priority one for L.E. but more as a relief. I don't kill him because murder is a sin.
You really are an arrogant, conceited little son of a bitch. You are so sure you know what's in everybody's heart and mind. I don't know many people with such hubris and just so damn full of himself and self-absorbed.
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You keep bleating on about moral codes and how it makes you a better person.
You think Saddam and Pol Pol and Kim Jong were always monsters?
Do you think when they were children they had the same thoughts and desires?
Do you think Hitler was going to school plotting the elimination of millions of people?
You want to argue about the differing severity of the Ten Commandments, tell me, are they in any sort of order of severity, your God gave them in that order, he didnt say one was worse than the other, people decided that...
Some people will even stand by and watch their friends rape and abuse a 13 year old girl, now that really is some level of depravity..
Im sure your God will forgive you your trespasses when the time comes, Im sure we will meet up in heaven when you have spent time in purgatory cleansing your stained soul...
Oh man, this is great! I like that you keep talking. Keep delivering. I want everyone to hear how you reason. So because monsters weren't always monsters but became monsters mean that we all will become monsters given the circumstances.
Because there are horrible people and cowardly people who will just sit by and do nothing means we all will do the same although history is replete with self-less heroics.
And when God listed the Ten Commandments and didn't rank them for you than you assume they are all equal sins. Murder is on the same level as stealing.
As I said, this is great. You are so morally twisted and confused that you really don't have any idea how morally twisted and confused you are.
I really look forward to your reply. Keep digging deeper.
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I was at a baby shower yesterday and was talking to my Aunt. I've always been so touched and moved by her. She's such an exceptionally warm, gentle, and kind soul. Despite the real hardships she's experienced in life she still remains positive and is a Godly religious woman always doing things to make other people's lives better. I get goosebumps and so inspired when I'm in her aura soaking in the goodness.
And to think a twisted creep like you believes that the only thing that has prevented her from beheading a person with her bare hands is just the circumstances. That we all are no better and no worse than some of the most ruthless and murderous tyrants throughout history.
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I don't have a gang. Why do you just make things up? And, no, prison isn't stopping me. You don't seem to catch on too quick, do you? Most murders are not solved. I could easily kill this person and get away with it. There is no personal connection between us. He's a blight on the neighborhood and no one would give a shit. It won't be priority one for L.E. but more as a relief. I don't kill him because murder is a sin.
You really are an arrogant, conceited little son of a bitch. You are so sure you know what's in everybody's heart and mind. I don't know many people with such hubris and just so damn full of himself and self-absorbed.
I could easily kill these people and get away with it. There is no personal connection between us and the Jews. they are a blight on the country and no one would give a shit
Adolf Hitler 1939
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I was at a baby shower yesterday and was talking to my Aunt. I've always been so touched and moved by her. She's such an exceptionally warm, gentle, and kind soul. Despite the real hardships she's experienced in life she still remains positive and is a Godly religious woman always doing things to make other people's lives better. I get goosebumps and so inspired when I'm in her aura soaking in the goodness.
And to think a twisted creep like you believes that the only thing that has prevented her from beheading a person with her bare hands is just the circumstances. That we all are no better and no worse than some of the most ruthless and murderous tyrants throughout history.
Given the right circumstances yes she could, I really dont know why this is beyond your grasp, you yourself are a temper tantrum away from being a murderer, you have already said as much, you have sat down and given some thought to killing someone, most people never do even that..
I suppose you didnt watch the last two videos I posted , its no wonder you stay so unenlightened...all the information you need is in there...
When the Russians liberated Aushwitz do you think they just said to the German soldiers, "Dear me, what have you lot been up to you naughty boys?"
No matter how controlled those soldiers were dont you think that some committed some atrocities themselves, or do you think its just the enemy who do bad things?
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I could easily kill these people and get away with it. There is no personal connection between us and the Jews. they are a blight on the country and no one would give a shit
Adolf Hitler 1939
Is there a point here? Hitler acted on his base desires, I didn't. You don't seem to know the difference. Between thoughts and desires and actions. There is something very wrong with you.
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Is there a point here? Hitler acted on his base desires, I didn't. You don't seem to know the difference. Between thoughts and desires and actions. There is something very wrong with you.
the point is there is no difference between you and Hitler given the right circumstances..
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Oh man, this is great! I like that you keep talking. Keep delivering. I want everyone to hear how you reason. So because monsters weren't always monsters but became monsters mean that we all will become monsters given the circumstances.
Because there are horrible people and cowardly people who will just sit by and do nothing means we all will do the same although history is replete with self-less heroics.
And when God listed the Ten Commandments and didn't rank them for you than you assume they are all equal sins. Murder is on the same level as stealing.
As I said, this is great. You are so morally twisted and confused that you really don't have any idea how morally twisted and confused you are.
I really look forward to your reply. Keep digging deeper.
wow, now you finally have a lightbulb moment, yes, thats exactly what Im saying..
And why do you sit back and let the hobo terrorise your neighbourhood, are you one of the cowards who sit by and do nothing...?
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Given the right circumstances yes she could, I really dont know why this is beyond your grasp, you yourself are a temper tantrum away from being a murderer, you have already said as much, you have sat down and given some thought to killing someone, most people never do even that..
I suppose you didnt watch the last two videos I posted , its no wonder you stay so unenlightened...all the information you need is in there...
When the Russians liberated Aushwitz do you think they just said to the German soldiers, "Dear me, what have you lot been up to you naughty boys?"
No matter how controlled those soldiers were dont you think that some committed some atrocities themselves, or do you think its just the enemy who do bad things?
What a mental case you are. Because you have no moral code and no free will and just at the mercy of your environment and circumstances you think -- project -- everybody is as twisted and morally passive and submissive as you are.
You keep bringing up the automatons in Nazi Germany but completely ignore all the brave and courageous heroes that protected and saved the innocent at great risk to themselves with many paying for their lives.
Listen to this twisted human being all people of GetBig. I want all of you to think of your mothers, sisters, daughters, and that this POS thinks that given the "right" circumstances they all will saw off another human being's head or light them on fire and watch them burn to death. That because there are some, or even a lot, of horrible and evil people, that we all are, at heart, the same. And he keeps equating thoughts to actions and that is what defines a monster. Not the fact that we all have bad and even evil thoughts but that we don't act on it proves that we are civilized and have real humanity and a moral code that is higher than just our feelings.
And he doesn't know why we don't believe this.
Keep it coming, weirdo. Keep delivering. And I also want to hear from all of you out there that agree with him. I want to flush all you out there like the filthy cockroaches that you are.
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wow, now you finally have a lightbulb moment, yes, thats exactly what Im saying..
And why do you sit back and let the hobo terrorise your neighbourhood, are you one of the cowards who sit by and do nothing...?
LOL! How do you know I do nothing or that nothing as tried to be done? You really have a short memory. You forgot that he has been arrested multiple times and it has frustrated L.E. because of our liberal laws protect filth like this.
Boy, what a combo, stupid and mentally deranged.
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LOL! How do you know I do nothing or that nothing as tried to be done? You really have a short memory. You forgot that he has been arrested multiple times and it has frustrated L.E. because of our liberal laws protect filth like this.
Boy, what a combo, stupid and mentally deranged.
ah, the liberal laws.. so you want laws to be more draconian?
And why do your responses reek of venom and hatred?
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ah, the liberal laws.. so you want laws to be more draconian?
And why do your responses reek of venom and hatred?
Typical Leftist European. In an age where people are allowed to shit on the streets, which this guy does, in addition to harassing people and just bringing down the neighbor by just hanging out and living on the streets, taking over bus stops and parks
reeking of piss you consider laws governing decent human behavior as "draconian" and reek of venom and hatred?
I had no idea, and I doubt anybody else has, that you were such a creepy, twisted, weirdo. I love flushing you guys out.
Keep it coming.
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https://qz.com/1348203/a-neuroscientist-who-studies-rage-says-were-all-capable-of-doing-something-terrible/
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Typical Leftist European. In an age where people are allowed to shit on the streets, which this guy does, in addition to harassing people and just bringing down the neighbor by just hanging out and living on the streets, taking over bus stops and parks
reeking of piss you consider laws governing decent human behavior as "draconian" and reek of venom and hatred?
I had no idea, and I doubt anybody else has, that you were such a creepy, twisted, weirdo. I love flushing you guys out.
Keep it coming.
me a leftist?
Jeez, dont you read my posts
creepy, twisted, weirdo
careful, you really dont want to go there......
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hers an example of what peoiple will stand by and allow.. amusing but makes the point (woman slapped)
https://www.facebook.com/jflgags/videos/1221724098216405/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDEwMTAzMTQ3ODozMjQ4MTgxOTQ4NTI4NDc0/
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me a leftist?
Jeez, dont you read my posts
careful, you really dont want to go there......
You can call yourself anything you want but when someone starts whining about laws governing indecent and offensive public behavior as "draconian" and starts defending and making excuses for bums, I call them Leftists and Liberals. A group and ideology that always makes things worse for everybody.
And it always cracks me up when someone tells me "don't go there". LOL! That just encourages me even more. I'll "go" where ever I want and what are you going to do about it?
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hers an example of what peoiple will stand by and allow.. amusing but makes the point (woman slapped)
https://www.facebook.com/jflgags/videos/1221724098216405/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDEwMTAzMTQ3ODozMjQ4MTgxOTQ4NTI4NDc0/
How dense are you? I told you over and over that I am not reading any links or vids you posts. I'm not wasting my time. You can find anything and anybody to support or not support any position you want. I can find comprehensive, in-depth articles arguing that the earth is flat or there are Reptilian Hybrid controlling the world.
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How dense are you? I told you over and over that I am not reading any links or vids you posts. I'm not wasting my time. You can find anything and anybody to support or not support any position you want. I can find comprehensive, in-depth articles arguing that the earth is flat or there are Reptilian Hybrid controlling the world.
I hope you never get before a judge
"Mr Pellius, what evidence do you have to support your case?"
"Just me talking your honour, the word of a moral man"
"Dont you have any paperwork or witnesses to support your story"
"Well I have but I dont believe in stuff like that, its best to just say you didnt do it"
You really are a laugh a minute...
By the way, it wasnt specifically for you, thats why I didnt quote you..
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I hope you never get before a judge
"Mr Pellius, what evidence do you have to support your case?"
"Just me talking your honour, the word of a moral man"
"Dont you have any paperwork or witnesses to support your story"
"Well I have but I dont believe in stuff like that, its best to just say you didnt do it"
You really are a laugh a minute...
By the way, it wasnt specifically for you, thats why I didnt quote you..
What are you talking about? Evidence? You post evidence of people doing bad things and conclude that we all would do the exact same thing. And now I have to prove things that people don't do? Every heard of the concept that you can't prove a negative.
And, you were "specifically" talking to me. Pay attention, numb-nuts, we're the only two talking.
Such a confused little mind.
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What are you talking about? Evidence? You post evidence of people doing bad things and conclude that we all would do the exact same thing. And now I have to prove things that people don't do? Every heard of the concept that you can't prove a negative.
And, you were "specifically" talking to me. Pay attention, numb-nuts, we're the only two talking.
Such a confused little mind.
If you had read the evidence you would have seen it was eminient psycologists stating that we are all capable of doing the same horrific things.
I have told you, go read some literature on the subject, you might learn something.
Your responses in this thread already add weight to my argument..
Do you realise that all the hatred you have for that poor hobo is just that you see something of yourself in him, and its a side of you that you hate, its not about him at all.... ;)
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If you had read the evidence you would have seen it was eminient psycologists stating that we are all capable of doing the same horrific things.
I have told you, go read some literature on the subject, you might learn something.
Your responses in this thread already add weight to my argument..
Do you realise that all the hatred you have for that poor hobo is just that you see something of yourself in him, and its a side of you that you hate, its not about him at all.... ;)
You keep coming back to the same argument that people are capable of horrible things -- something that I've never denied. And from that, you conclude that ALL people are capable of the exact same things although there are numerous examples throughout history where overcame their own narrow selfish interest and did good and the right thing despite great risk, and for many, paying with their lives.
You insult the memory of all the good people, few as they may be, for the heroics, courage, and goodness that they showed.
You're such a disgraceful human being.
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You keep coming back to the same argument that people are capable of horrible things -- something that I've never denied. And from that, you conclude that ALL people are capable of the exact same things although there are numerous examples throughout history where overcame their own narrow selfish interest and did good and the right thing despite great risk, and for many, paying with their lives.
You insult the memory of all the good people, few as they may be, for the heroics, courage, and goodness that they showed.
You're such a disgraceful human being.
If you paid any attention to the evidence I provided you would have dropped this futile discussion a few pages back.
The reason you cant accept my point, and the point of eminent psychologists is that its because you just don't understand it.
You should educate yourself a bit more then maybe, just maybe we could communicate on an intellectually similar level, at the moment its like a chess master playing against a pigeon, no matter how well I play you will still end up knocking all the pieces off the board and then walking around like you won...
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If you paid any attention to the evidence I provided you would have dropped this futile discussion a few pages back.
The reason you cant accept my point, and the point of eminent psychologists is that its because you just don't understand it.
You should educate yourself a bit more then maybe, just maybe we could communicate on an intellectually similar level, at the moment its like a chess master playing against a pigeon, no matter how well I play you will still end up knocking all the pieces off the board and then walking around like you won...
Apparently, it's not futile to you. And LOL at telling me to get educated. You've never gone past high school and just get your indoctrination from the net. You start with a conclusion and then you start to google for links that support your views.
And, brah, I would absolutely destroy you in chess. When was the last time you even played chess? I compete in chess tournaments.
You have no idea just how weird, creepy, and ignorant you are.
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Apparently, it's not futile to you. And LOL at telling me to get educated. You've never gone past high school and just get your indoctrination from the net. You start with a conclusion and then you start to google for links that support your views.
And, brah, I would absolutely destroy you in chess. When was the last time you even played chess? I compete in chess tournaments.
You have no idea just how weird, creepy, and ignorant you are.
The Quarter Pounder Invitational in the parking lot of McDonald's with the downtrodden.
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Apparently, it's not futile to you. And LOL at telling me to get educated. You've never gone past high school and just get your indoctrination from the net. You start with a conclusion and then you start to google for links that support your views.
And, brah, I would absolutely destroy you in chess. When was the last time you even played chess? I compete in chess tournaments.
You have no idea just how weird, creepy, and ignorant you are.
Clever enough to play in chess tournaments but too dumb to understand what an analogy is. ::)
pellius at work....
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/293492029334d21c2f006a79a511bd8b/tumblr_nk2xjaBOKH1rfdvpto1_500.gif)
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Clever enough to play in chess tournaments but too dumb to understand what an analogy is. ::)
pellius at work....
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/293492029334d21c2f006a79a511bd8b/tumblr_nk2xjaBOKH1rfdvpto1_500.gif)
Now you're just babbling. You've run out of arguments to back your warped and sick view of human nature. You may be a latent monster with no free will and a passive victim to random circumstances. You may even make the argument that most people are like you. But not everybody. Not by a long shot. Sad that you don't know any good people down to the core and have a line that they will not cross no matter what. Not everybody values their life and their needs more than anything in the world. Many have willingly sacrificed both for the good of others.
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Now you're just babbling. You've run out of arguments to back your warped and sick view of human nature. You may be a latent monster with no free will and a passive victim to random circumstances. You may even make the argument that most people are like you. But not everybody. Not by a long shot. Sad that you don't know any good people down to the core and have a line that they will not cross no matter what. Not everybody values their life and their needs more than anything in the world. Many have willingly sacrificed both for the good of others.
I have never punched a hobo
that person doesn't exist..if they haven't crossed the line its just because the circumstances didn't fall into place for it to happen,,,
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Clever enough to play in chess tournaments but too dumb to understand what an analogy is. ::)
pellius at work....
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/293492029334d21c2f006a79a511bd8b/tumblr_nk2xjaBOKH1rfdvpto1_500.gif)
"one, two, three, four. pump that pussy til it's sore"
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I have never punched a hobo
that person doesn't exist..if they haven't crossed the line its just because the circumstances didn't fall into place for it to happen,,,
Of course, you wouldn't. You're the consummate pussy. Trying to build your body with steroids to cover up the fact that you are a weak coward. A guy could just stand in front staring at you and waving his dick, and it doesn't matter if your wife was there or your little daughter or niece if you had one. You would just accept it because you are afraid of getting hurt.
By your own admission, you have no moral values but simply a product of your circumstances and stand for nothing in life. Just a hollow, soulless, nothing.
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"one, two, three, four. pump that pussy til it's sore"
Just like Prime, he spends all his time on the internet searching for gifs, pics, and links. At least Prime is living off his retirement income but this POS sponges off his wife so he can live his self-absorbed, narcissist lifestyle.
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Of course, you wouldn't. You're the consummate pussy. Trying to build your body with steroids to cover up the fact that you are a weak coward. A guy could just stand in front staring at you and waving his dick, and it doesn't matter if your wife was there or your little daughter or niece if you had one. You would just accept it because you are afraid of getting hurt.
By your own admission, you have no moral values but simply a product of your circumstances and stand for nothing in life. Just a hollow, soulless, nothing.
Was this hobo you punched a match for you?
Or was it some crazy weak assed drugged up loser?
Suppose this hobo was 6ft 3 and built like a brick shithouse, would you have still hit him?
I think we know the answer, you are a bully, and no one likes a bully...
Good luck explaining yourself to a judge if you hurt the guy badly next time you want to flex your muscles...
and I do have morals, its morally wrong to hit a defenceless man, everyone knows that...
If hes waving his cock around then hes also mentally ill, you should be more considerate to those less fortunate than yourself.
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Was this hobo you punched a match for you?
Or was it some crazy weak assed drugged up loser?
Suppose this hobo was 6ft 3 and built like a brick shithouse, would you have still hit him?
I think we know the answer, you are a bully, and no one likes a bully...
Good luck explaining yourself to a judge if you hurt the guy badly next time you want to flex your muscles...
and I do have morals, its morally wrong to hit a defenceless man, everyone knows that...
If hes waving his cock around then hes also mentally ill, you should be more considerate to those less fortunate than yourself.
Pellius is mentally ill. Doesn't this make him an even match with the cock waving hobo?
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Pellius is mentally ill. Doesn't this make him an even match with the cock waving hobo?
Now you mention it I think Pellius was probably the underdog
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I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.
However they are all still better than orange man
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I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.
However they are all still better than orange man
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Was this hobo you punched a match for you?
Or was it some crazy weak assed drugged up loser?
Suppose this hobo was 6ft 3 and built like a brick shithouse, would you have still hit him?
I think we know the answer, you are a bully, and no one likes a bully...
Good luck explaining yourself to a judge if you hurt the guy badly next time you want to flex your muscles...
and I do have morals, its morally wrong to hit a defenceless man, everyone knows that...
If hes waving his cock around then hes also mentally ill, you should be more considerate to those less fortunate than yourself.
People who do horrible things are not always mentally ill. It's an excuse to to excused their acts which is what Liberals do.
And do I really have to explain this? If I was confronted by a gang of thugs or a man with a gun would I have acted the same way? Of course not. Would I jump in if a man was raping a woman or if a woman was being eaten by a Pride of lions? I have to explain this to you? Just because you can't do anything in some situations doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything in all situations. Just another example of you just not being a clear thinker. These are concepts a child would understand.
The reason why more and more people are doing gross and indecent things is because we, as a society, allow it. Maybe that's the kind of world you want to live in but not me. I do what I can to preserve some semblance of decency. I'm not a weakling and a coward like you.
And you don't have morals. Morals imply a God. I already explained this to you. You already admitted that your "morals" are just personal opinions completely dependant of the specific circumstances at the time.
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Pellius is mentally ill. Doesn't this make him an even match with the cock waving hobo?
LOL! No one gives a shit what you think. You're a confirmed pervert and the majority despise you here. So astonishingly clueless. Even something trivia like when that person made that joke about Platz and not having tats on his face and your reply was something to the effect, "You're getting him confused with Lee Priest." No shit, you soggy vile little pervert. But keep allying yourself with joswift. I'm sure he loves being associated with you. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I wonder if joswift feels the same way you repugnant creep.
I had a little discussion with Josh today. He's doing well and sounds great. We talked about these issues here and he made some good points. He did make this concluding comment:
"regardless of my changes-primemuscle is still the creepiest person on that site.
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I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.
However they are all still better than orange man
Big difference between having a more Government controlled socialist economy and executing people and sending them to gulags for disagreeing with your policies.
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A refresher course though it may exceed the upper limits of your attention span and comprehension level and totally rejects your deluded beliefs that you have morals. You have opinions completely dependant on the circumstances and state of your feelings in the moment.
So where does morality come from? To answer this you have to start from the premise that moral good and evil really exist. They are not simply a matter of personal taste or opinion. A concept that I believe is unforgivably shallow and superficial. A very, very common trait in our ever-expanding secular society.
Unlike science which tells us what is, the laws of morality tell us what ought to be. And like physical laws they direct and order something, i.e., right human behavior. But since morality doesn't exist physically its cause has to be something that exists apart from the physical world (nature). And that "thing" or "concept" has to be above nature, or supernatural. So if you believe that morality does, in fact, exists then this proves the existence of something beyond nature and beyond man. Just as a design implies a designer (a concept you also reject) moral commands implies a moral commander. Moral laws must come from a moral lawgiver. And that's what theists call God. Therefore, whenever you appeal to morality you appeal to God whether you think so or not.
So, by your arguments and the beliefs you presented here, you do not believe that there is such a thing as moral good and moral evil. All your value system is based simply on opinions. What you like and what you dislike and those can vary wildly. And that does not make for a better world.
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LOL! No one gives a shit what you think. You're a confirmed pervert and the majority despise you here. So astonishingly clueless. Even something trivia like when that person made that joke about Platz and not having tats on his face and your reply was something to the effect, "You're getting him confused with Lee Priest." No shit, you soggy vile little pervert. But keep allying yourself with joswift. I'm sure he loves being associated with you. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I wonder if joswift feels the same way you repugnant creep.
I had a little discussion with Josh today. He's doing well and sounds great. We talked about these issues here and he made some good points. He did make this concluding comment:
"regardless of my changes-primemuscle is still the creepiest person on that site.
Josh said that? I can't believe it, he's always been such a nice guy. ::) You, on the other hand, are just plain sad.
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I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.
However they are all still better than orange man
How do you figure that they are Better than some Orange Man.
Yet by your own words you say they would have no problems being tyrants ?
Who is this orange man you speak of. ?
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People who do horrible things are not always mentally ill. It's an excuse to to excused their acts which is what Liberals do.
And do I really have to explain this? If I was confronted by a gang of thugs or a man with a gun would I have acted the same way? Of course not. Would I jump in if a man was raping a woman or if a woman was being eaten by a Pride of lions? I have to explain this to you? Just because you can't do anything in some situations doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything in all situations. Just another example of you just not being a clear thinker. These are concepts a child would understand.
The reason why more and more people are doing gross and indecent things is because we, as a society, allow it. Maybe that's the kind of world you want to live in but not me. I do what I can to preserve some semblance of decency. I'm not a weakling and a coward like you.
And you don't have morals. Morals imply a God. I already explained this to you. You already admitted that your "morals" are just personal opinions completely dependant of the specific circumstances at the time.
we know you wouldnt ....
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I would say, this is true, many of the current politicians in the West (pelosi, that gay dude running for president with his disgusting "husband", etc) would have no problem being such tyrants if the laws were relaxed a bit.
However they are all still better than orange man
Just curious, are you saying Chasten Buttigieg is disgusting or do you mean same sex marriage is disgusting? Wonder how they decided who would take who's last name? Chasten's was Glezman.
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we know you wouldnt ....
We? Whose "we"? You act like you have a huge support base here.
And the fact is that I have intervened many times in physical confrontations. Obvious I can't prove but I am sure that people who know me here will not find it unusual for me. Just as they wouldn't find it unusual that you are the type to slink away like the coward that you are.
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Just curious, are you saying Chasten Buttigieg is disgusting or do you mean same sex marriage is disgusting?
Both.
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We? Whose "we"? You act like you have a huge support base here.
And the fact is that I have intervened many times in physical confrontations. Obvious I can't prove but I am sure that people who know me here will not find it unusual for me. Just as they wouldn't find it unusual that you are the type to slink away like the coward that you are.
thats because the beast lies quite close to the surface with you and the more you try to deny it the more obvious it is to anyone reading your posts..
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thats because the beast lies quite close to the surface with you and the more you try to deny it the more obvious it is to anyone reading your posts..
No, it's because I'm not a coward and help those that can't help themselves. You're the type that looks down, hides his face, and slink away. And lol at always trying to speak for everyone else. You've been exposed as an amoral creepy weirdo that doesn't have a job and just sits monitoring this board all day. Like with every day in your life, today you started posting first thing in the morning, and here you still are, it must be early evening where you are, still on GetBig just waiting for me to respond so you can quickly respond just like you did just now. A response in minutes. I am so owning your warped little mind.
What a loser.
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No, it's because I'm not a coward and help those that can't help themselves. You're the type that looks down, hides his face, and slink away. And lol at always trying to speak for everyone else. You've been exposed as an amoral creepy weirdo that doesn't have a job and just sits monitoring this board all day. Like with every day in your life, today you started posting first thing in the morning, and here you still are, it must be early evening where you are, still on GetBig just waiting for me to respond so you can quickly respond just like now. I am so owning your warped little mind.
What a loser.
After speaking with Josh the other day you know thats not true, what do you want to achieve by telling lies?
I haven't been out today, the weather is terrible, I have been popping in and out between watching Netflix stuff, watched the documentary series "Don't fuck with cats", its about a warped guy who killed cats a puppy and then a person.... to be honest I was more bothered about him killing cats and dogs than the person..
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After speaking with Josh the other day you know thats not true, what do you want to achieve by telling lies?
I haven't been out today, the weather is terrible, I have been popping in and out between watching Netflix stuff, watched the documentary series "Don't fuck with cats", its about a warped guy who killed cats a puppy and then a person.... to be honest I was more bothered about him killing cats and dogs than the person..
What makes you think we talked about your life? He said he communicates with you and like you and told me I take this board too seriously -- surprise. I take certain subjects seriously like this one when a lowlife like you insults, disgraced, and dishonors so many of the good and heroic people and lump them in the same group as serial killers, murderers, and people who torture, rape, mutilate others.
And the weather is terrible? Poor thing. Don't you have a car or is your wife using it to go to work to support your lazy ass? I get a lot of rain in my part of the island but it's not like I have to walk out in the rain. It rained hard yesterday, and I still went to the gym, had lunch with some friends, went to the Windward Mall to pick up a few things and get one of those "Blizzards" at Dairy queen. You should notice that I post in bursts.
Sometimes in the morning and then most at night around 9 PM. The rest of the time I'm actually living a life. It's Sunday and I'll be leaving for church soon so I had some extra dead time. All your time is dead time except when you have to go to the gym which is really what your life revolves around at 55 years old.
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What makes you think we talked about your life? He said he communicates with you and like you and told me I take this board too seriously -- surprise. I take certain subjects seriously like this one when a lowlife like you insults, disgraced, and dishonors so many of the good and heroic people and lump them in the same group as serial killers, murderers, and people who torture, rape, mutilate others.
And the weather is terrible? Poor thing. Don't you have a car or is your wife using it to go to work to support your lazy ass? I get a lot of rain in my part of the island but it's not like I have to walk out in the rain. It rained hard yesterday, and I still went to the gym, had lunch with some friends, went to the Windward Mall to pick up a few things and get one of those "Blizzards" at Dairy queen. You should notice that I post in bursts.
Sometimes in the morning and then most at night around 9 PM. The rest of the time I'm actually living a life. It's Sunday and I'll be leaving for church soon so I had some extra dead time. All your time is dead time except when you have to go to the gym which is really what your life revolves around at 55 years old.
Serious question, genuine curiousity, why are you always so angry?
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What makes you think we talked about your life? He said he communicates with you and like you and told me I take this board too seriously -- surprise. I take certain subjects seriously like this one when a lowlife like you insults, disgraced, and dishonors so many of the good and heroic people and lump them in the same group as serial killers, murderers, and people who torture, rape, mutilate others.
And the weather is terrible? Poor thing. Don't you have a car or is your wife using it to go to work to support your lazy ass? I get a lot of rain in my part of the island but it's not like I have to walk out in the rain. It rained hard yesterday, and I still went to the gym, had lunch with some friends, went to the Windward Mall to pick up a few things and get one of those "Blizzards" at Dairy queen. You should notice that I post in bursts.
Sometimes in the morning and then most at night around 9 PM. The rest of the time I'm actually living a life. It's Sunday and I'll be leaving for church soon so I had some extra dead time. All your time is dead time except when you have to go to the gym which is really what your life revolves around at 55 years old.
did you manage to name 10 "Truly good, decent, honorable people are rare" yet?
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Serious question, genuine curiousity, why are you always so angry?
Because deep down he knows he's wrong...
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Serious question, genuine curiousity, why are you always so angry?
A lot of low lives and assholes on this board. They shoot off their mouth knowing that they are not within reach. I rarely have this problem in real life. People are way more polite when they are dealing with someone face to face. I am sure that in real life the arrogant and mouthy joswift who starts an argument with the most trivial matters ("we are not supposed to be walking upright" "This is how a child picks up things") He's even admitted how he's much more of an "arsehole" on this board than in real life. Of course, he is. His dorky face would get smashed by any man with half a pair in real life.
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A lot of low lives and assholes on this board. They shoot off their mouth knowing that they are not within reach. I rarely have this problem in real life. People are way more polite when they are dealing with someone face to face. I am sure that in real life the arrogant and mouthy joswift who starts an argument with the most trivial matters ("we are not supposed to be walking upright" "This is how a child picks up things") He's even admitted how he's much more of an "arsehole" on this board than in real life. Of course, he is. His dorky face would get smashed by any man with half a pair in real life.
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Your ability to google never ceases to amaze me. But I appreciate the split second response. Still "popping in and out". LOL, you've been glued to the computer all day.
You don't need to pop in and out with a laptop. It's been sitting in front of you all day as you wait for me to post.
Anyway, times up for now. I have a life to live. But keep sitting there as I may send a post through my cell phone and I don't want you to miss it.
You live such a productive and fulfilling life. What a legacy you will leave.
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Your ability to google never ceases to amaze me. But I appreciate the split second response. Still "popping in and out". LOL, you've been glued to the computer all day.
You don't need to pop in and out with a laptop. It's been sitting in front of you all day as you wait for me to post.
Anyway, times up for now. I have a life to live. But keep sitting there as I may send a post through my cell phone and I don't want you to miss it.
You live such a productive and fulfilling life. What a legacy you will leave.
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A lot of low lives and assholes on this board. They shoot off their mouth knowing that they are not within reach. I rarely have this problem in real life. People are way more polite when they are dealing with someone face to face. I am sure that in real life the arrogant and mouthy joswift who starts an argument with the most trivial matters ("we are not supposed to be walking upright" "This is how a child picks up things") He's even admitted how he's much more of an "arsehole" on this board than in real life. Of course, he is. His dorky face would get smashed by any man with half a pair in real life.
I'd try and take a step back honestly, you seem an intelligent and well intentioned person.Internet isn't worth that level of added stress.
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No, it's because I'm not a coward and help those that can't help themselves. You're the type that looks down, hides his face, and slink away. And lol at always trying to speak for everyone else. You've been exposed as an amoral creepy weirdo that doesn't have a job and just sits monitoring this board all day. Like with every day in your life, today you started posting first thing in the morning, and here you still are, it must be early evening where you are, still on GetBig just waiting for me to respond so you can quickly respond just like you did just now. A response in minutes. I am so owning your warped little mind.
What a loser.
Says a pathetic loser,
"You've been exposed as an amoral creepy weirdo that doesn't have a job and just sits monitoring this board all day. Like with every day in your life, today you started posting first thing in the morning, and here you still are, it must be early evening where you are, still on GetBig just waiting for me to respond so you can quickly respond just like you did just now. A response in minutes. I am so owning your warped little mind."
You've just described yourself to a tee.
Quote from: pellius on Today at 12:23:36 PM
A lot of low lives and assholes on this board. They shoot off their mouth knowing that they are not within reach. I rarely have this problem in real life. People are way more polite when they are dealing with someone face to face. I am sure that in real life the arrogant and mouthy joswift who starts an argument with the most trivial matters ("we are not supposed to be walking upright" "This is how a child picks up things") He's even admitted how he's much more of an "arsehole" on this board than in real life. Of course, he is. His dorky face would get smashed by any man with half a pair in real life.
The lowest life and biggest asshole speaks,
"A lot of low lives and assholes on this board. They shoot off their mouth knowing that they are not within reach. I rarely have this problem in real life."
Roll Eyes
Quote from: pellius on Today at 12:34:54 PM
Your ability to google never ceases to amaze me. But I appreciate the split second response. Still "popping in and out". LOL, you've been glued to the computer all day.
You don't need to pop in and out with a laptop. It's been sitting in front of you all day as you wait for me to post.
Anyway, times up for now. I have a life to live. But keep sitting there as I may send a post through my cell phone and I don't want you to miss it.
You live such a productive and fulfilling life. What a legacy you will leave.
"I have a life to live."
Or so you say,
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Serious question, genuine curiousity, why are you always so angry?
Excellent question!
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Both.
Ha ha ha 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
He walked “Straight” into that one.
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I'd try and take a step back honestly, you seem an intelligent and well intentioned person.Internet isn't worth that level of added stress.
If you looked like him you’d be angry too...
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Says a pathetic loser,
"You've been exposed as an amoral creepy weirdo that doesn't have a job and just sits monitoring this board all day. Like with every day in your life, today you started posting first thing in the morning, and here you still are, it must be early evening where you are, still on GetBig just waiting for me to respond so you can quickly respond just like you did just now. A response in minutes. I am so owning your warped little mind."
You've just described yourself to a tee.
The lowest life and biggest asshole speaks,
"A lot of low lives and assholes on this board. They shoot off their mouth knowing that they are not within reach. I rarely have this problem in real life."
Roll Eyes
"I have a life to live."
Or so you say,
LMAO! I thought you said you were having fun with me? I so hit a nerve with you. Just seeing my name is torture for you and cum-drenched anal canal starts draining into your diapers. My ownage of you soggy anally-bored out ass is complete.
Whine all you want. Make up things that have been proven no to be true. Nobody cares what you think. The majority simply don't like you here because you just stink up this board. The number of examples and comments that indicate the near universal contempt people here have for you is nearly endless.
Just put primemuscle in the search engine and on nearly every page you get these types of fan mail.
It's fine without uncle creepy posting.
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Uncle Creepy
Quote from: Earl1972 on February 17, 2017, 06:56:14 PM
is prime considered "creepy" because he's old or am i missing something here?
No. read his posts you'll see. He also sucks cocks. :-X
That's why it's creepy. Was married to a woman and living as straight while sucking cock. :-X
A father figure? Are you high? I would not consider that old creeper to be anything of the sort.
I would never let a man who salivated over Tbombz in a bunny costume be considered a father-figure.
The only thing I've learned from that creepy old man is I never want to be a creepy old man.
That being sexually molested by a old man when you re a kid makes you turn into a confused homo who talks about sucking men cock's on a bodybuilding messageboard.
weird homosexual
primemuscle you are a pathetic old man
go away
Genuine Fucking Hatred Want Them to Die List: Primemuscle and BigRo
Primemuscle just seems creepy because every post has some sort of "how sucking dick doesn't make you gay" or something queer like that in it. He reminds of the old man from Family Guy. "Where is that strong armed paperboy, mmmmmm".
And there you have it. If anyone is looking to find this old creepy bastard just look in a Kevin Spacey thread for the guy talking about being erotically mind blown via a prostate massage. Christ I need to wipe that unsolicited visual from my mind.
uncle creepy trolls the board for weirdness and perversion
You’re so gay even Gay says you’re too gay. Phaggot.
Uncle Creepy strikes again.
Prime is evidence the Spartans probably had the right idea of expelling all the defective people who were unfit to live in their civilization. Otherwise they all just form a big special interest group of mentally ill and defective to lobby against the actual functional ones and destroy civilization.
Thread needs more ungaying, Prime's creepiness lingers like a libtard at a Portland protest.
Nobody honestly takes primesoggy seriously.
He's merely a proverbial "punching bag" here for our amusement.
Overlooking the fact that he’s a soggy old deviant queer, he’s also a senile old soggy cock-trolling queer.
Primemuscle failing to convince us he will only gargle on a man's cum if he likes his personality ::)
Bill Cosby finds primesoggy creepy.
Your words pack the punch of Prime's penis, i.e., they are flaccid and formless save in the diseased mind of the owner.
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If you looked like him you’d be angry too...
And your pic? Exactly. The Jews won't allow you.
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Meaning what? Just like Prime was too dumb to figure out I am logged in all the time. Just like my email accounts are always logged in. And how accurate is that graph? It shows I am most active at 3:00 am. You try to compare my post count to yours and think that's accurate too? You're not fooling anybody. Your average daily post count is twice mine. When you count all the accounts you've had here: Simple Simon, Being There, UK Jeff and so on you would have over 20,000 posts here. You have no job and when you are not at the gym you just sit at home on Getbig, not even counting all the time you spend online "researching" and looking up links and gifs.
You live the typical lazy self-indulgent bber lifestyle at the expense of your wife. You're a loser who has accomplish nothing in life and tries to portray himself as an intellectual when you barely graduated high school.
Name: joswift
Posts: 2097 (9.619 per day)
Position: Getbig IV
Date Registered: July 13, 2019, 09:47:41 AM
Last Active: Today at 12:54:56 PM
Name: pellius
Posts: 18602 (4.095 per day)
Position: Getbig V
Date Registered: September 09, 2007, 03:46:23 PM
Last Active: Today at 06:17:57 PM
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And your pic? Exactly. The Jews won't allow you.
Happy?
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Meaning what? Just like Prime was too dumb to figure out I am logged in all the time. Just like my email accounts are always logged in. And how accurate is that graph? It shows I am most active at 3:00 am. You try to compare my post count to yours and think that's accurate too? You're not fooling anybody. Your average daily post count is twice mine. When you count all the accounts you've had here: Simple Simon, Being There, UK Jeff and so on you would have over 20,000 posts here. You have no job and when you are not at the gym you just sit at home on Getbig, not even counting all the time you spend online "researching" and looking up links and gifs.
You live the typical lazy self-indulgent bber lifestyle at the expense of your wife. You're a loser who has accomplish nothing in life and tries to portray himself as an intellectual when you barely graduated high school.
Name: joswift
Posts: 2097 (9.619 per day)
Position: Getbig IV
Date Registered: July 13, 2019, 09:47:41 AM
Last Active: Today at 12:54:56 PM
Name: pellius
Posts: 18602 (4.095 per day)
Position: Getbig V
Date Registered: September 09, 2007, 03:46:23 PM
Last Active: Today at 06:17:57 PM
nope, it shows you are active every single hour of the day, the blue lines are your posts, there isn't an hour in the day when you haven't been posting..
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LMAO! I thought you said you were having fun with me? I so hit a nerve with you. Just seeing my name is torture for you and cum-drenched anal canal starts draining into your diapers. My ownage of you soggy anally-bored out ass is complete.
Whine all you want. Make up things that have been proven no to be true. Nobody cares what you think. The majority simply don't like you here because you just stink up this board. The number of examples and comments that indicate the near universal contempt people here have for you is nearly endless.
Just put primemuscle in the search engine and on nearly every page you get these types of fan mail.
Quote from: Earl1972 on February 17, 2017, 06:56:14 PM
is prime considered "creepy" because he's old or am i missing something here?
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Happy?
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This is about how I pictured you except I thought you had black hair. I'll save this to my disk so that the next time you want to criticize my looks I can put a side by side comparison.
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nope, it shows you are active every single hour of the day, the blue lines are your posts, there isn't an hour in the day when you haven't been posting..
Really? Less than five posts a day with my most active period at 3 am and yet I manage to be posting 24 hours a day? Yeah, that sounds real accurate. You know exactly when I post because you are on this forum from morning to night waiting for me to post. When I post in the morning you respond within minutes; after I get back from work and post in the evening, there you are within minutes. You don't have a job and sit all day on GetBig in addition to being on the net looking for gifs, links, "investigating" and going through my account. The fact of the matter is that you post twice as much as I do. You are the typical lazy bum bber that just goes to the gym, eats, and sponges off others. You've accomplished nothing in life except some amateur bbing trophies.
But, I get it. You want to change the subject away from the fact that you are an amoral creepy weirdo.
These are the believable facts.
Name: joswift
Posts: 2097 (9.619 per day)
Position: Getbig IV
Date Registered: July 13, 2019, 09:47:41 AM
Last Active: Today at 12:54:56 PM
Name: pellius
Posts: 18602 (4.095 per day)
Position: Getbig V
Date Registered: September 09, 2007, 03:46:23 PM
Last Active: Today at 06:17:57 PM
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Really? Less than five posts a day with my most active period at 3 am and yet I manage to be posting 24 hours a day? Yeah, that sounds real accurate. You know exactly when I post because you are on this forum from morning to night waiting for me to post. When I post in the morning you respond within minutes; after I get back from work and post in the evening, there you are within minutes. You don't have a job and sit all day on GetBig in addition to being on the net looking for gifs, links, "investigating" and going through my account. The fact of the matter is that you post twice as much as I do. You are the typical lazy bum bber that just goes to the gym, eats, and sponges off others. You've accomplished nothing in life except some amateur bbing trophies.
But, I get it. You want to change the subject away from the fact that you are an amoral creepy weirdo.
These are the believable facts.
Name: joswift
Posts: 2097 (9.619 per day)
Position: Getbig IV
Date Registered: July 13, 2019, 09:47:41 AM
Last Active: Today at 12:54:56 PM
Name: pellius
Posts: 18602 (4.095 per day)
Position: Getbig V
Date Registered: September 09, 2007, 03:46:23 PM
Last Active: Today at 06:17:57 PM
You are posting on this site 24 hours a day, that stats don't lie..the blue bars are a % of your posts, there isn't a single hour when you don't post..
its not really up for debate, we can if you like but you look silly enough all ready..
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Speechless, huh? So trying to ally yourself with joswift so you can have one, at least one person, out of all the others that find you creepy and disgusting, that you can be "friends" with and back you up.
Let the "fun" continue. You're still having fun with me as you claimed, aren't you?
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Speechless, huh? So trying to ally yourself with joswift so you can have one, at least one person, out of all the others that find you creepy and disgusting, that you can be "friends" with and back you up.
Let the "fun" continue. You're still having fun with me as you claimed, aren't you?
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You are posting on this site 24 hours a day, that stats don't lie..the blue bars are a % of your posts, there isn't a single hour when you don't post..
its not really up for debate, we can if you like but you look silly enough all ready..
Right on cue. Late evening where you are and still on GetBig ready to reply within minutes.
And typical of the mindless unthinking moron you are. Believing everything you want to believe on the net. No one can be posting 24 hours a day. You've never worked in computer programming because you have no higher education. Inaccuracies occur all the time.
The undisputed fact is that you post twice as much as I do.
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What is it, like 10 pm where you are? Still on the forum now looking up gifs to post on GetBig. It's just past noon here and I'm off today so it's just going to be a lazy day for me. I'm going to do a conker on you and keep you up all night and make you go cataboilc.
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Right on cue. Late evening where you are and still on GetBig ready to reply within minutes.
And typical of the mindless unthinking moron you are. Believing everything you want to believe on the net. No one can be posting 24 hours a day. You've never worked in computer programming because you have no higher education. Inaccuracies occur all the time.
The undisputed fact is that you post twice as much as I do.
its 10pm here, its not late, do you normally have your jim jams on by that time?
Fuck me you are dim, you are not posting 24 hours a day, you have posted in every hour of the 24 including hours 7-12 which in reality should be you in bed.
Whats wrong, do you have trouble sleeping trying to think of something witty to say and then jumping up in bed and posting.
Seriously, you need to take it easy
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its 10pm here, its not late, do you normally have your jim jams on by that time?
Fuck me you are dim, you are not posting 24 hours a day, you have posted in every hour of the 24 including hours 7-12 which in reality should be you in bed.
Whats wrong, do you have trouble sleeping trying to think of something witty to say and then jumping up in bed and posting.
Seriously, you need to take it easy
I sleep like a baby. I don't know what "jim jams" are. I don't talk like that. I'm an American. And I didn't say 10 pm is late. Nor do I think 7 am is early. Just that you are on the board first thing in the morning and still on responding in minutes later in the evening.
You're a lazy unproductive bum.
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This is about how I pictured you except I thought you had black hair. I'll save this to my disk so that the next time you want to criticize my looks I can put a side by side comparison.
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I sleep like a baby. I don't know what "jim jams" are. I don't talk like that. I'm an American. And I didn't say 10 pm is late. Nor do I think 7 am is early. Just that you are on the board first thing in the morning and still on responding in minutes later in the evening.
You're a lazy unproductive bum.
Look, I get up at 05.30, I have a shower, I make my breakfast, I watch TV while I eat it, I then fuck about on the web for about 15 mins then I make my wife a cup of coffee and leave for work at 7am, I get home around 2pm, I then occasionally come on here or watch a bit of TV and then go to the gym, I come home later and eat, then after taking the dog out ,while my wife watches shit TV I end up watching sports videos on you tube and make the odd post on here.
Is that OK for you?
Now, if you want me to be doing something else like snatching hamburgers from the mouths of hobos or foaming at the mouth on the internet then please let me know...
Any suggestions to make my day a bit more interesting would be welcome
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Took a while for you to find this one. But I know it doesn't matter to you. You have all the time in the world.
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Took a while for you to find this one. But I know it doesn't matter to you. You have all the time in the world.
Took a while? Fuck are you talking about loser? I work over 60 hours a week you fucking mong.
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Took a while? Fuck are you talking about loser? I work over 60 hours a week you fucking mong.
Hahahaha!
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Took a while? Fuck are you talking about loser? I work over 60 hours a week you fucking mong.
Read my reply again numbnuts. I was replying to
joswift. Too bad you don't have the smarts that Jews have.
I believe you have to work that much. By your pic you obvious don't have time to work out.
Edit: Wait a minute. You changed your post and switched the picture. It was with a fat guy kneeling in front of some nurses with their backs turned. That's why I thought it was from joswift.
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Look, I get up at 05.30, I have a shower, I make my breakfast, I watch TV while I eat it, I then fuck about on the web for about 15 mins then I make my wife a cup of coffee and leave for work at 7am, I get home around 2pm, I then occasionally come on here or watch a bit of TV and then go to the gym, I come home later and eat, then after taking the dog out ,while my wife watches shit TV I end up watching sports videos on you tube and make the odd post on here.
Is that OK for you?
Now, if you want me to be doing something else like snatching hamburgers from the mouths of hobos or foaming at the mouth on the internet then please let me know...
Any suggestions to make my day a bit more interesting would be welcome
Liar. You don't work. You don't "occasionally" go on the net. You've spent way more than fifteen minutes on me alone in the morning. But you fo spend most of your time watching TV and posting on GetBig. You're a lazy bum who never wanted to put in a hard days work.
Work ethic is one of the big differences between Americans and Europeans.
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Really? Less than five posts a day with my most active period at 3 am and yet I manage to be posting 24 hours a day? Yeah, that sounds real accurate. You know exactly when I post because you are on this forum from morning to night waiting for me to post. When I post in the morning you respond within minutes; after I get back from work and post in the evening, there you are within minutes. You don't have a job and sit all day on GetBig in addition to being on the net looking for gifs, links, "investigating" and going through my account. The fact of the matter is that you post twice as much as I do. You are the typical lazy bum bber that just goes to the gym, eats, and sponges off others. You've accomplished nothing in life except some amateur bbing trophies.
But, I get it. You want to change the subject away from the fact that you are an amoral creepy weirdo.
These are the believable facts.
Name: joswift
Posts: 2097 (9.619 per day)
Position: Getbig IV
Date Registered: July 13, 2019, 09:47:41 AM
Last Active: Today at 12:54:56 PM
Name: pellius
Posts: 18602 (4.095 per day)
Position: Getbig V
Date Registered: September 09, 2007, 03:46:23 PM
Last Active: Today at 06:17:57 PM
So far, you've posted 7 times today between the hours of 10:01 a.m. and 1:12 p.m. and 16 times yesterday between the hours of 6:27 p.m. and 10:02 p.m. (Hawaii time). On Valentines day, you outdid yourself with 17 posts between the hours of 7:30 p.m. and 11:53 p.m. Not only have you exceeded your per day post count, you are posting at the wrong time of day according to what you declared. Incidentally, the 'Posting Activity By Time' graf shows that there is literally no time during a 24 hour period that you haven't posted.
Not that I give a shit how often or how much you post, but your statements appear to be untrue. No surprise, a lot of what you post is lies. :)
This is what happens when you are having a....(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/melting-man-melting-scene-man-dark-suit-hidden-face-human-elements-were-created-d-software-not-any-actual-109745888.jpg)
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So far, you've posted 7 times today between the hours of 10:01 a.m. and 1:12 p.m. and 16 times yesterday between the hours of 6:27 p.m. and 10:02 p.m. (Hawaii time). Not only have you exceeded your per day post count, you are posting at the wrong time of day according to what you declared.
Not that I give a shit how often or how much you post, but your statements appear to be untrue. No surprise, a lot of what you post are lies. :)
This is what happens when you are having a....(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/melting-man-melting-scene-man-dark-suit-hidden-face-human-elements-were-created-d-software-not-any-actual-109745888.jpg)
You don't give a shit yet you keep track. Still going through my posts history. Have you already forgotten that I said just a few posts up that I'm off today and I'm making this a lazy day loafing around the house. Like I said before, not only are you are a soggy anally-bored out queer but a senile soggy anally-bored out queer.
Check the Calendar you creepy old pervert (a label unanimously agreed upon here), it's President's Day.
Have you PMed joswift yet so you can buddy up with him and talk about your common nemesis?
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You don't give a shit yet you keep track. Still going through my posts history. Have you already forgotten that I said just a few posts up that I'm off today and I'm making this a lazy day loafing around the house. Like I said before, not only are you are a soggy anally-bored out queer but a senile soggy anally-bored out queer.
Check the Calendar you creepy old pervert (a label unanimously agreed upon here), it's President's Day.
Have you PMed joswift yet so you can buddy up with him and talk about your common nemesis?
This explains the posts today. What about those other two days? Did you forget about them or were they also a "lazy day loafing around the house"? It is nice that you celebrate President's day. Most people are required to work on President's day.
Unlike you, I didn't take the day off. I spent several hours today chairing a board meeting.
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Liar
you are on
many acounts
Look, I get up at 05.30, I have a shower, I make my breakfast, I watch TV while I eat it, I then fuck about on the web for about 15 mins then I make my wife a cup of coffee and leave for work at 7am, I get home around 2pm, I then occasionally come on here or watch a bit of TV and then go to the gym, I come home later and eat, then after taking the dog out ,while my wife watches shit TV I end up watching sports videos on you tube and make the odd post on here.
Is that OK for you?
Now, if you want me to be doing something else like snatching hamburgers from the mouths of hobos or foaming at the mouth on the internet then please let me know...
Any suggestions to make my day a bit more interesting would be welcome
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This explains the posts today. What about those other two days? Did you forget about them or were they also a "lazy day loafing around the house"? It is nice that you celebrate President's day. Most people are required to work on President's day.
Unlike you, I didn't take the day off. I spent several hours today chairing a board meeting.
Holy fu*k! Do I own your mind or what? Going through my post history keeping count and noting the times. But let's go through my last two days. Yesterday my last post was at 10:34 am and then back on the board at 8:16 pm. About a ten hour gap in which I was at church, visiting with family, running errands, i.e., living a life. The previous day I posted up to 12:05 pm then didn't post until 8:16 pm during which I went to work, stop by the grocery store, had dinner and the got back to destroying your mind on GetBig as you sit at home all day waiting for me.
Sorry that I've been "exceeding" my daily post count average but I'm involved in a lot of lively threads recently. But thanks for keeping close watch. Anything I can do to keep you busy and reduce the time spent where you have random cocks being shoved down your throat or plowing that soggy bored-out asshole.
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JOSWIFT, BETHERE, UKJEFF, and SIMPLE SIMON.
I believe there is one more that I can't remember. He does this because if he stuck to one account he'd have over 20,000 posts by now and doesn't want to give the impression that he lives for this board.
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Liar
you are on
many acounts
When you are admittedly an amoral person concepts like truth is just a personal opinion depending on the circumstances.
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I wish I was retired so I could get my post count up to 75 per day.
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Liar
you are on
many acounts
nope, try proving that...
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Holy fu*k! Do I own your mind or what? Going through my post history keeping count and noting the times. But let's go through my last two days. Yesterday my last post was at 10:34 am and then back on the board at 8:16 pm. About a ten hour gap in which I was at church, visiting with family, running errands, i.e., living a life. The previous day I posted up to 12:05 pm then didn't post until 8:16 pm during which I went to work, stop by the grocery store, had dinner and the got back to destroying your mind on GetBig as you sit at home all day waiting for me.
Sorry that I've been "exceeding" my daily post count average but I'm involved in a lot of lively threads recently. But thanks for keeping close watch. Anything I can do to keep you busy and reduce the time spent where you have random cocks being shoved down your throat or plowing that soggy bored-out asshole.
Ah, now it all becomes clear, did you get your sins of the week absolved, nice clean slate to be a piece of shit again..
I always find church goers to be the worst people..
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Can somebody give me cliff notes please?
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Can somebody give me cliff notes please?
pellius is a self hating aggressive beta male overcompensating for a fragile ego...
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Thank you sir.
I gotta take the time to read the thred...I like and respect both of you guys so I have no dog in the fight.
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Thank you sir.
I gotta take the time to read the thred...I like and respect both of you guys so I have no dog in the fight.
he will tell you Im a freeloading obsessed lazy no job bum who sponges off his wife.
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I wish I was retired so I could get my post count up to 75 per day.
Post between customers at AutoZone. ;D
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Can somebody give me cliff notes please?
Pellius has gone completely mental and has started posting meltdowns 15 - 20 times a day for several hours each day. Poor fellow. Getbig does that to some people.
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I believe there is one more that I can't remember. He does this because if he stuck to one account he'd have over 20,000 posts by now and doesn't want to give the impression that he lives for this board.
Be back
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Be back
Correct...
Although Simple Simon ended up "bethere", Ron changed it
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Correct...
Although Simple Simon ended up "bethere", Ron changed it
I am going to reach out to ESF and find out when he is returning. Hopefully, upon his return you'll refocus your energy on him and give my man Pellius a break.
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Ah, now it all becomes clear, did you get your sins of the week absolved, nice clean slate to be a piece of shit again..
I always find church goers to be the worst people..
"Ah" bright and early. About 6 am and right on schedule, first thing in the morning to check for posts by me.
And you "always" find church people to be the worse people?
See folks, this is what happens when you have no moral foundation. Where morality; right and wrong; good and bad; are just a matter of personal opinion based on circumstances and your feelings at the moment.
I've hurt joswift's feelings and exposed as an amoral, arrogant, narcissist. That makes me bad. I go to church and therefore church goers are always the worst people. Not the Crips, the Bloods, the Sinoloa Cartel, not ISIS or Al Queda -- but American church goers.
Keep talking. Keep showing us what you're really made of.
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Pellius has gone completely mental and has started posting meltdowns 15 - 20 times a day for several hours each day. Poor fellow. Getbig does that to some people.
Who are you talking to, Mr Creepy?Nobody likes you here and wish you would just leave and take your perverted stink with you. It's pretty much common knowledge that you're my little bitch boy. As much as you claim you are having fun with me it obvious how much I am able to torment your soggy, anally-bored out fetid ass. Every post of mine you read leaves a sour taste in your mouth which you have to alleviate by gargling with that container of various men's sperm that you collect by going through the trash fishing for used condoms at those porn shops with the glory-holes you frequent.
Time for another serving. Yum-Yum.
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"Ah" bright and early. About 6 am and right on schedule, first thing in the morning to check for posts by me.
And you "always" find church people to be the worse people?
See folks, this is what happens when you have no moral foundation. Where morality; right and wrong; good and bad; are just a matter of personal opinion based on circumstances and your feelings at the moment.
I've hurt joswift's feelings and exposed as an amoral, arrogant, narcissist. That makes me bad. I go to church and therefore church goers are always the worst people. Not the Crips, the Bloods, the Sinoloa Cartel, not ISIS or Al Queda -- but American church goers.
Keep talking. Keep showing us what you're really made of.
People who go to church think they are good, all the other people you quoted accept they are not...
You still dont get it, I dont think you ever will, your constant denial of the obvious is just proving my point even more.
A sane person would have given up long ago.
Try and calm down a bit today, just go for a nice walk and get some fresh air, have a sit and think about your behaviour on here and in general, Im sure there are ways you can improve your attitude to life.
Maybe go and talk to the hobo you are constantly harassing , a different approach may yield different results, all your hostility is only going to put that poor man on edge, maybe thats why hes like he is with you, your demeanour may be scaring him.
Anyway, I hope your mood improves and you can start to enjoy life a bit..
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Who are you talking to, Mr Creepy?Nobody likes you here and wish you would just leave and take your perverted stink with you. It's pretty much common knowledge that you're my little bitch boy. As much as you claim you are having fun with me it obvious how much I am able to torment your soggy, anally-bored out fetid ass. Every post of mine you read leaves a sour taste in your mouth which you have to alleviate by gargling with that container of various men's sperm that you collect by going through the trash fishing for used condoms at those porn shops with the glory-holes you frequent.
Time for another serving. Yum-Yum.
You write such despicable comments then wonder why people retaliate. Prime doesn't deserve all that filt.
Joswift is debating to the bitter end...just the way you like it.
Your understanding of ethics is rather limited. You don't need to be religious to be a good moral person.
Going to church is no guarantee that you are a good person. Your posts here suggest otherwise.
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People who go to church think they are good, all the other people you quoted accept they are not...
You still dont get it, I dont think you ever will, your constant denial of the obvious is just proving my point even more.
A sane person would have given up long ago.
Try and calm down a bit today, just go for a nice walk and get some fresh air, have a sit and think about your behaviour on here and in general, Im sure there are ways you can improve your attitude to life.
Maybe go and talk to the hobo you are constantly harassing , a different approach may yield different results, all your hostility is only going to put that poor man on edge, maybe thats why hes like he is with you, your demeanour may be scaring him.
Anyway, I hope your mood improves and you can start to enjoy life a bit..
Oh, I forgot. It's about 6 am where you are. You're right on time. First thing in the morning and it's right to GetBig to check for my post. Do I own your corrupt mind, or what?
So let me get this straight. If someone saws off someone's head or drive by a family's house and showers it with bullets, as long as they acknowledge they are are bad and doing an evil act that makes them better than someone who goes to church and thinks they are good but do not live perfectly virtuous lives? And, to show your colossal ignorance regarding Christianity, Christians knows they are flawed and prone to sin and why they need Christ to give them strength and guidance. There was only one perfectly moral man.
You keep speaking with authority on things you really know nothing about.
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You write such despicable comments then wonder why people retaliate. Prime doesn't deserve all that filt.
Joswift is debating to the bitter end...just the way you like it.
Your understanding of ethics is rather limited. You don't need to be religious to be a good moral person.
Going to church is no guarantee that you are a good person. Your posts here suggest otherwise.
Hah! I always know when I get into a debate with someone you are always in the background lurking waiting and hoping for the opportunity to take care of that "unfinished business" you've threatened me with.
But, in fairness and to be consistent with my beliefs, you are quite right. You don't have to be religious to be good and moral person. A point I had made quite clear in a previous post. And, of course, going to church will guarantee you are good person. There are few, if any, guarantees in life. Just like going to a top MMA team, or training at the best gyms in the world under the top gurus, are going to make you a champion. But it always helps to steer the odds as much in your favor as possible.
You and Prime make a great team. Birds of a feather.
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Hah! I always know when I get into a debate with someone you are always in the background lurking waiting and hoping for the opportunity to take care of that "unfinished business" you've threatened me with.
But, in fairness and to be consistent with my beliefs, you are quite right. You don't have to be religious to be good and moral person. A point I had made quite clear in a previous post. And, of course, going to church will guarantee you are good person. There are few, if any, guarantees in life. Just like going to a top MMA team, or training at the best gyms in the world under the top gurus, are going to make you a champion. But it always helps to steer the odds as much in your favor as possible.
You and Prime make a great team. Birds of a feather.
On discussion forums it makes a huge difference if posters have supporters. You piss people off and they owe you.
You are a strange person. Almost a loner. No kids that we know about and we predict you don't want kids that might have your ears and a lifetime of looks and teasing.
So you come here and attack a bi older guy. What is with the extreme lengths you go to? Are these boards that important?
In real life you probably lack the respect you deserve. So you vow that no one is going to own you on Getbig. Thus you post to the bitter end and
use any and all means to make your points. Way over the top behaviour. It is as if you are compensating for a lacklustre life.
That fight with the hobo turned out to be costly. Your martial arts participation is over. Your bodybuilding is long gone.
So what is it that gives you a purpose? That job at the hardware store was short lived.
Well should you go to church and pray because you need someone on your side.
Light a candle for me the next time you go! :)
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Can somebody give me cliff notes please?
Ah, Tim, I'm so glad you are here. We go back many years and though we've never met, we both know the type of men we are. I can't count the number of times when I've felt us to be kindred spirits. Very different lives but cut from the same mold.
You've been back and forth on the wrong side of the streets and have done things, like me, that you are not proud of. Sometimes life just gets the best of you and brings out the worse. But I know that you are at heart a decent man. That there is a line of depravity that you will not cross no matter what. You still believe in that now archiac notion of honor that you will take to your grave.
And that is the crux of the matter. Josswift believes that under "the right" circumstances we will all revert to savages. There are no differences between the true monsters in this world and you, or your wife, daughter, niece! At it's core, there no difference between a Pol Pot, who will have you executed if you did not have callouses on your hand or were a professional. Or a Kim Jung Un who will torture and execute his own people if you speak out against him or have you own relatives killed because you think they might be a threat to your power, or a Saddam Hussein who had rape squads to torture and humiliate his enemies. We are all the same at the core.
You know how hard it is to adhere to a moral code of honor. To let principle trump you base and primitive desires. Joswift insults and dishonors all the good men and women throughout history who overcame the dark side that is within all of us and made the world a better place.
He is, if you remember the term from back in day, "filt"!
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Re the debate in this thread about good vs bad people. So what is the test of the truth of either position? If there is none then it is pointless debating the issue.
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On discussion forums it makes a huge difference if posters have supporters. You piss people off and they owe you.
You are a strange person. Almost a loner. No kids that we know about and we predict you don't want kids that might have your ears and a lifetime of looks and teasing.
So you come here and attack a bi older guy. What is with the extreme lengths you go to? Are these boards that important?
In real life you probably lack the respect you deserve. So you vow that no one is going to own you on Getbig. Thus you post to the bitter end and
use any and all means to make your points. Way over the top behaviour. It is as if you are compensating for a lacklustre life.
That fight with the hobo turned out to be costly. Your martial arts participation is over. Your bodybuilding is long gone.
So what is it that gives you a purpose? That job at the hardware store was short lived.
Well should you go to church and pray because you need someone on your side.
Light a candle for me the next time you go! :)
Oh God! Nobody listens or cares what you think. You're GetBig's clown and by far the most mocked person on this board. You've long lost any credibility and respect. Your just an ongoing never ending joke here that everyone ridiculed, except your soulmate, Prime.
That pic of you and Prime side by side was another classic.
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Re the debate in this thread about good vs bad people. So what is the test of the truth of either position? If there is none then it is pointless debating the issue.
Do you think under any circumstances you could saw off the head of another person or rape a teen and mutilate her body?
Joswift says you are.
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Can somebody give me cliff notes please?
Wes, if you read the first post of this thread it will give you an idea what the debate is about.
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Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing.
And someone who doesnt believe that is far more dangerous than someone who knows what hes capable of and chooses not to do it.
Wes, take note of the reasoning. We all could do exactly the same thing as a Hitler or Stalin. And those who believe that they do have a moral code of honor are far more dangerous than those who do not have any moral code.
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"The argument here is that no one is any better or worse than someone else."
No, thats not the argument, the argument is that everyone is capable of the same atrocities given the right circumstances
Note the inherent contradiction. He denies my assertion, which is the exact same words he used as quoted in the very first post where I quoted him, then contradicts that in the very next statement that we all will react the same way given the "right" circumstances.
A very morally confuse man.
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I was at a baby shower yesterday and was talking to my Aunt. I've always been so touched and moved by her. She's such an exceptionally warm, gentle, and kind soul. Despite the real hardships she's experienced in life she still remains positive and is a Godly religious woman always doing things to make other people's lives better. I get goosebumps and so inspired when I'm in her aura soaking in the goodness.
And to think a twisted creep like you believes that the only thing that has prevented her from beheading a person with her bare hands is just the circumstances. That we all are no better and no worse than some of the most ruthless and murderous tyrants throughout history.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=661085.0;attach=785850;image) (http://)
Given the right circumstances yes she could, I really dont know why this is beyond your grasp, you yourself are a temper tantrum away from being a murderer, you have already said as much, you have sat down and given some thought to killing someone, most people never do even that..
And there you have it. A frail woman in her 80s that wouldn't hurt a fly is now capable, given the "right" circumstances could saw off another person's head or torture them to death.
This guy is a real POS.
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Who are you talking to, Mr Creepy?Nobody likes you here and wish you would just leave and take your perverted stink with you. It's pretty much common knowledge that you're my little bitch boy. As much as you claim you are having fun with me it obvious how much I am able to torment your soggy, anally-bored out fetid ass. Every post of mine you read leaves a sour taste in your mouth which you have to alleviate by gargling with that container of various men's sperm that you collect by going through the trash fishing for used condoms at those porn shops with the glory-holes you frequent.
Time for another serving. Yum-Yum.
Poor delusional Pelius is really losing it big time. He keeps repeating the same crap over and over. Yeah, I am his "little bitch boy." LOL - gotta love it! Pathetic and juvenile attempt to make himself look good. And to think these are the words of a 60 year old man/child.
Does you sweet old auntie have any idea the kind of filthy garbage you spew about other people on a daily bases on the Internet?
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/Q9GiiquRTXXnm89NBi/200.webp?cid=790b7611efabbde2e87173831d15763cdfd9477469af7e5f&rid=200.webp)
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Poor delusional Pelius is really losing it big time. He keeps repeating the same crap over and over. Yeah, I am his "little bitch boy." LOL - gotta love it! Pathetic and juvenile attempt to make himself look good. And to think these are the words of a 60 year old man/child.
Does you sweet old auntie have any idea the kind of filthy garbage you spew about other people on a daily bases on the Internet?
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/Q9GiiquRTXXnm89NBi/200.webp?cid=790b7611efabbde2e87173831d15763cdfd9477469af7e5f&rid=200.webp)
Does your children know you've gone to glory holes taking complete stranger's cocks in your mouth and ass?
Quote from: CalvinH on February 14, 2017, 11:45:07 AM
It's fine without uncle creepy posting.
Quote from: wes on February 17, 2017, 02:45:15 PM
Uncle Creepy
Quote from: Earl1972 on February 17, 2017, 06:56:14 PM
is prime considered "creepy" because he's old or am i missing something here?
Quote from: calfzilla on February 17, 2017, 09:00:12 PM
No. read his posts you'll see. He also sucks cocks. Lips sealed
Quote from: calfzilla on February 18, 2017, 10:11:05 AM
That's why it's creepy. Was married to a woman and living as straight while sucking cock. Lips sealed
Quote from: SF1900 on September 07, 2013, 07:04:48 AM
A father figure? Are you high? I would not consider that old creeper to be anything of the sort.
I would never let a man who salivated over Tbombz in a bunny costume be considered a father-figure.
Quote from: Branchs Ears on September 07, 2013, 07:11:20 AM
The only thing I've learned from that creepy old man is I never want to be a creepy old man.
Quote from: Natural Man on September 07, 2013, 03:40:22 PM
That being sexually molested by a old man when you re a kid makes you turn into a confused homo who talks about sucking men cock's on a bodybuilding messageboard.
Quote from: drockland on September 07, 2013, 11:21:41 PM
weird homosexual
Quote from: anabolichalo on December 16, 2013, 12:44:29 PM
primemuscle you are a pathetic old man
go away
Quote from: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 10:53:45 AM
Genuine Fucking Hatred Want Them to Die List: Primemuscle and BigRo
Quote from: Irongrip400 on October 07, 2015, 03:32:12 PM
Primemuscle just seems creepy because every post has some sort of "how sucking dick doesn't make you gay" or something queer like that in it. He reminds of the old man from Family Guy. "Where is that strong armed paperboy, mmmmmm".
Quote from: XFACTOR on January 10, 2019, 05:28:46 AM
And there you have it. If anyone is looking to find this old creepy bastard just look in a Kevin Spacey thread for the guy talking about being erotically mind blown via a prostate massage. Christ I need to wipe that unsolicited visual from my mind.
Quote from: bigmc on January 14, 2016, 10:31:34 AM
uncle creepy trolls the board for weirdness and perversion
Quote from: Fortress on January 14, 2020, 10:09:33 AM
You’re so gay even Gay says you’re too gay. Phaggot.
Quote from: Skeletor on January 14, 2020, 07:18:34 PM
Uncle Creepy strikes again.
Quote from: Theoak* on January 15, 2020, 12:43:33 AM
Prime is evidence the Spartans probably had the right idea of expelling all the defective people who were unfit to live in their civilization. Otherwise they all just form a big special interest group of mentally ill and defective to lobby against the actual functional ones and destroy civilization.
Quote from: Powerlift66 on January 15, 2020, 12:56:14 AM
Thread needs more ungaying, Prime's creepiness lingers like a libtard at a Portland protest.
Quote from: Montague on January 15, 2020, 03:11:16 PM
Nobody honestly takes primesoggy seriously.
He's merely a proverbial "punching bag" here for our amusement.
Quote from: JustPlaneJane on January 15, 2020, 05:06:36 PM
Overlooking the fact that he’s a soggy old deviant queer, he’s also a senile old soggy cock-trolling queer.
Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on January 17, 2020, 08:09:03 AM
Primemuscle failing to convince us he will only gargle on a man's cum if he likes his personality Roll Eyes
Quote from: Montague on January 16, 2020, 05:44:48 PM
Bill Cosby finds primesoggy creepy.
Quote from: The Scott on January 24, 2020, 02:33:33 AM
Your words pack the punch of Prime's penis, i.e., they are flaccid and formless save in the diseased mind of the owner.
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Philip Gilkey, shake your sorry head.
We get that you are disgusted by homosexuals. There are several on this forum.
According to Christopher Hitchens religions spoil everything. i agree. Lots of religious people have done evil things.
Who knows what anyone is capable of doing?
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Philip Gilkey, shake your sorry head.
We get that you are disgusted by homosexuals. There are several on this forum.
According to Christopher Hitchens religions spoil everything. i agree. Lots of religious people have done evil things.
Who knows what anyone is capable of doing?
Nope, only by Prime, Vince Basile. And I'm far from the only one who finds him disgusting?
Shake that fat belly, hypertrophy expert.
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I used to think getting esfitness to meltdown was easy but jeez, pellius is the man...
There was only one perfectly moral man.
and who might that be?
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.and who might that be?
Mr. Fred Rogers
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Does your children know you've gone to glory holes taking complete stranger's cocks in your mouth and ass?
Quote from: CalvinH on February 14, 2017, 11:45:07 AM
It's fine without uncle creepy posting.
Quote from: wes on February 17, 2017, 02:45:15 PM
Uncle Creepy
Quote from: Earl1972 on February 17, 2017, 06:56:14 PM
is prime considered "creepy" because he's old or am i missing something here?
Quote from: calfzilla on February 17, 2017, 09:00:12 PM
No. read his posts you'll see. He also sucks cocks. Lips sealed
Quote from: calfzilla on February 18, 2017, 10:11:05 AM
That's why it's creepy. Was married to a woman and living as straight while sucking cock. Lips sealed
Quote from: SF1900 on September 07, 2013, 07:04:48 AM
A father figure? Are you high? I would not consider that old creeper to be anything of the sort.
I would never let a man who salivated over Tbombz in a bunny costume be considered a father-figure.
Quote from: Branchs Ears on September 07, 2013, 07:11:20 AM
The only thing I've learned from that creepy old man is I never want to be a creepy old man.
Quote from: Natural Man on September 07, 2013, 03:40:22 PM
That being sexually molested by a old man when you re a kid makes you turn into a confused homo who talks about sucking men cock's on a bodybuilding messageboard.
Quote from: drockland on September 07, 2013, 11:21:41 PM
weird homosexual
Quote from: anabolichalo on December 16, 2013, 12:44:29 PM
primemuscle you are a pathetic old man
go away
Quote from: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 10:53:45 AM
Genuine Fucking Hatred Want Them to Die List: Primemuscle and BigRo
Quote from: Irongrip400 on October 07, 2015, 03:32:12 PM
Primemuscle just seems creepy because every post has some sort of "how sucking dick doesn't make you gay" or something queer like that in it. He reminds of the old man from Family Guy. "Where is that strong armed paperboy, mmmmmm".
Quote from: XFACTOR on January 10, 2019, 05:28:46 AM
And there you have it. If anyone is looking to find this old creepy bastard just look in a Kevin Spacey thread for the guy talking about being erotically mind blown via a prostate massage. Christ I need to wipe that unsolicited visual from my mind.
Quote from: bigmc on January 14, 2016, 10:31:34 AM
uncle creepy trolls the board for weirdness and perversion
Quote from: Fortress on January 14, 2020, 10:09:33 AM
You’re so gay even Gay says you’re too gay. Phaggot.
Quote from: Skeletor on January 14, 2020, 07:18:34 PM
Uncle Creepy strikes again.
Quote from: Theoak* on January 15, 2020, 12:43:33 AM
Prime is evidence the Spartans probably had the right idea of expelling all the defective people who were unfit to live in their civilization. Otherwise they all just form a big special interest group of mentally ill and defective to lobby against the actual functional ones and destroy civilization.
Quote from: Powerlift66 on January 15, 2020, 12:56:14 AM
Thread needs more ungaying, Prime's creepiness lingers like a libtard at a Portland protest.
Quote from: Montague on January 15, 2020, 03:11:16 PM
Nobody honestly takes primesoggy seriously.
He's merely a proverbial "punching bag" here for our amusement.
Quote from: JustPlaneJane on January 15, 2020, 05:06:36 PM
Overlooking the fact that he’s a soggy old deviant queer, he’s also a senile old soggy cock-trolling queer.
Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on January 17, 2020, 08:09:03 AM
Primemuscle failing to convince us he will only gargle on a man's cum if he likes his personality Roll Eyes
Quote from: Montague on January 16, 2020, 05:44:48 PM
Bill Cosby finds primesoggy creepy.
Quote from: The Scott on January 24, 2020, 02:33:33 AM
Your words pack the punch of Prime's penis, i.e., they are flaccid and formless save in the diseased mind of the owner.
You put so much effort into this reply and no one cares. Sad.
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You put so much effort into this reply and no one cares. Sad.
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and to think he pass ripping me for checking justplanejanes post history for gaps
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I used to think getting esfitness to meltdown was easy but jeez, pellius is the man...and who might that be?
And that's all you have left. The go to "meltdown" comment. No argument defending that absurd assertion that gang members are better because they know they are bad.
So if you had to live in either a Catholic neighborhood or a gang infested neighborhood you'd kick it old school with the gangstas?
What a phony and a hypocrite.
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You put so much effort into this reply and no one cares. Sad.
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Cracks me up when you think you speak for the board. You're the most despised member here but you stay because you have no where else to go. Just rattle around all day waiting for your son or grandson to come home since you have no friends but just cock sucking partners.
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and to think he pass ripping me for checking justplanejanes post history for gaps
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Those quotes we're all found on the first two pages when you search his name.
I may go back to find more. It is very entertaining reading the near universal disdain for this creepy old queer. Congratulations on your partnership. You, along with Basile, and creepy queer is quite a formidable team.
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....on your partnership. You, along with Basile, and creepy queer is quite a formidable team.
Yes, a few people make a difference. I have no difficulty disposing of you re debates involving philosophy and that includes ethics.
You, on the other hand, make these threads extremely important and that is why you debate to the bitter end.
You haven't won this debate but are convinced that you have.
If you go back in history then you discover that the clergy have done despicable things. If the Pope and other religious officials
can do evil then everyone can. Therefore, joswift is correct when he insists that everyone is capable of doing evil things.
You just have to put them in the right situation and time.
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Yes, a few people make a difference. I have no difficulty disposing of you re debates involving philosophy and that includes ethics.
You, on the other hand, make these threads extremely important and that is why you debate to the bitter end.
You haven't won this debate but are convinced that you have.
If you go back in history then you discover that the clergy have done despicable things. If the Pope and other religious officials
can do evil then everyone can. Therefore, joswift is correct when he insists that everyone is capable of doing evil things.
You just have to put them in the right situation and time.
OK, so you believe that you are morally no better or no worse than a Stalin or Hitler. That given the "right" circumstances you would behead another man, torture some to death, rape a teenager and mutilate their body? That's what joswift is saying. It is quite different to say that everyone is "capable" of committing atrocities. I don't disagree with that but that is not what he is saying.
Again, like with the science of hypertrophy, you are not as precise, informed, and educated as you think you are.
And yes, these subjects are very, very important to me. Morality, ethics, human behavior and how it affects our society and life. You chide me for debating to the end but it takes two to debate. Your bias and prejudice are obvious.
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Cracks me up when you think you speak for the board. You're the most despised member here but you stay because you have no where else to go. Just rattle around all day waiting for your son or grandson to come home since you have no friends but just cock sucking partners.
Cracks me up when you think you speak for the board.
Have you searched yourself on Getbig? -Bet you have. It isn't pretty is it? Talk about not being liked around here. It looks like you have the corner on that market. And, you have quite the reputation for meltdowns, it seems.
Here's a sample of how well liked you are:
Pellius is a gross disgusting piece of trash who in real life needs to be killed. Serious. He is in massive denial about being a fullblown pedo, we all recognize it and he just makes brutal excuses and to top it off deflects by calling others pedos. He needs to die. I have his real name and address
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Those quotes we're all found on the first two pages when you search his name.
I may go back to find more. It is very entertaining reading the near universal disdain for this creepy old queer. Congratulations on your partnership. You, along with Basile, and creepy queer is quite a formidable team.
why are you so concerned what people think?
Epic justification of behaviour post
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OK, so you believe that you are morally no better or no worse than a Stalin or Hitler. That given the "right" circumstances you would behead another man, torture some to death, rape a teenager and mutilate their body? That's what joswift is saying. It is quite different to say that everyone is "capable" of committing atrocities. I don't disagree with that but that is not what he is saying.
Again, like with the science of hypertrophy, you are not as precise, informed, and educated as you think you are.
And yes, these subjects are very, very important to me. Morality, ethics, human behavior and how it affects our society and life. You chide me for debating to the end but it takes two to debate. Your bias and prejudice are obvious.
jeez all this time and you still havent grasped to point
Everyone has the capacity for evil, given the right circumstances..
Try and keep up you rage blind pixie
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Cracks me up when you think you speak for the board.
Have you searched yourself on Getbig? -Bet you have. It isn't pretty is it? Talk about not being liked around here. It looks like you have the corner on that market. And, you have quite the reputation for meltdowns, it seems.
Here's a sample of how well liked you are:
Oh, I know I have a lot of people that dislike me here. They dislike for my views and opinions but that in no way compares to your near universal contempt people have for you. Yes, when it comes to you, I do speak for the majority of the board. But it's not me speaking as such, it's all those that have over the years that have formed the near universal consesus that you are just a vile, creepy, pervert.
And no, I have not searched myself. Of all your searching you can only come up with one from Josh from five years ago. Here's his more recent opinion which he commented on when I posted that YouTube vid with the homeless guy.
Joshua Rehaluk 7 months ago
You have a calm relaxing voice and seem like a decent guy. I guess I was wrong about you.
Joshua Rehaluk 7 months ago
@pellius not me up to shenanigans. I'd just straight up say it's me if its was. Like I said...you seem like a pretty good dude in these vids so you won't have any problems from me anymore. But I do hope you make more Hawaii vids. Relaxing voice and interesting place
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why are you so concerned what people think?
Epic justification of behaviour post
I can ask you the very same thing.
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I believe I was the first guy to dub Prime "Uncle Creepy" ..........got it from the old Creepy magazines I read as a kid !!
I must say though that he has been very kind to me since I`ve been diagnosed with Cancer so I will refrain from ever saying anything bad about him again.
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jeez all this time and you still havent grasped to point
Everyone has the capacity for evil, given the right circumstances..
Try and keep up you rage blind pixie
No, that is not what you said. If you want to walk back from your origin claim and change that to having the "capacity" then you have no argument from me. You stated the notion that ALL of us are no better or no worse than the most vile monsters throughout history given the "right" circumstances.
the point is there is no difference between you and Hitler given the right circumstances..
Your understanding of morality is so skewed and twisted that it is beyond comprehension.
You even clearly stated that there is no difference from a moral perspective between killing and torture and shoplifting. Who thinks like that? Everybody, including God, acknowledges this.
Of course morality has different levels.....Any sane person acknowledges this.
Do you equate killing/torture with shoplifting? Jeez....
legally yes, morally no...
In the eyes of God every one of us has broke all the 10 commandments
we are all as guilty as each other..
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I believe I was the first guy to dub Prime "Uncle Creepy" ..........got it from the old Creepy magazines I read as a kid !!
I must say though that he has been very kind to me since I`ve been diagnosed with Cancer so I will refrain from ever saying anything bad about him again.
You're a good man, Wes. I know there are lines you will not cross no matter what joswift thinks. He is very sure that he knows what is in everybody's hearts and minds and know what they will do better than they know themselves.
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No, that is not what you said. If you want to walk back from your origin claim and change that to having the "capacity" then you have no argument from me. You stated the notion that ALL of us are no better or no worse than the most vile monsters throughout history given the "right" circumstances.
Your understanding of morality is so skewed and twisted that it is beyond comprehension.
You even clearly stated that there is no difference from a moral perspective between killing and torture and shoplifting. Who thinks like that? Everybody, including God, acknowledges this.
Did JOSWIFT, BETHERE, UKJEFF, SIMPLE SIMON, really say there are no differences between killing and shoplifting? ??? ???
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Did JOSWIFT, BETHERE, UKJEFF, SIMPLE SIMON, really say there are no differences between killing and shoplifting? ??? ???
To be precise: "killing/torture and shoplifting
The quote is right there. You can scroll back to page 5 reply 118 to get the entire context when I was making the argument that there are gradations of evil, gradations of right and wrong. Even in Christianity, they distinguish between Mortal and Venial sins.
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Did JOSWIFT, BETHERE, UKJEFF, SIMPLE SIMON, really say there are no differences between killing and shoplifting? ??? ???
Do be fair and precise, he claims there is no moral difference. He acknowledges that there is a difference legally. But in this debate, I am not as concerned with legality but with morality. I believe, and have proven, he has a very skewed and warped sense of morality.
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I believe I was the first guy to dub Prime "Uncle Creepy" ..........got it from the old Creepy magazines I read as a kid !!
I must say though that he has been very kind to me since I`ve been diagnosed with Cancer so I will refrain from ever saying anything bad about him again.
Prime is a quality human being. Period.
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Prime is a quality human being. Period.
Give me back my Quarter Pounder.
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Give me back my Quarter Pounder.
LOL. Never. You're ok in my book too. Our abortion dialogue while it did not change my mind, it made me see things through a different prism.
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Oh, I know I have a lot of people that dislike me here. They dislike for my views and opinions but that in no way compares to your near universal contempt people have for you. Yes, when it comes to you, I do speak for the majority of the board. But it's not me speaking as such, it's all those that have over the years that have formed the near universal consesus that you are just a vile, creepy, pervert.
And no, I have not searched myself. Of all your searching you can only come up with one from Josh from five years ago. Here's his more recent opinion which he commented on when I posted that YouTube vid with the homeless guy.
Joshua Rehaluk 7 months ago
You have a calm relaxing voice and seem like a decent guy. I guess I was wrong about you.
Joshua Rehaluk 7 months ago
@pellius not me up to shenanigans. I'd just straight up say it's me if its was. Like I said...you seem like a pretty good dude in these vids so you won't have any problems from me anymore. But I do hope you make more Hawaii vids. Relaxing voice and interesting place
LOL. You of all people are using Josh as a character reference! Last year you two had unfinished business and now you chat on the phone?
Be very careful to assume what Josh believes. He is an intelligent and quite resourceful individual.
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LOL. You of all people are using Josh as a character reference! Last year you two had unfinished business and now you chat on the phone?
Be very careful to assume what Josh believes. He is an intelligent and quite resourceful individual.
I never had any unfinished business with Josh or anybody else. It's only you who have threatened me with this unfinished business baloney when I wanted to call a truce. You're a horrible bitter man.
And why have you avoided my simple question? Because you are afraid to answer it.
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Oh, I know I have a lot of people that dislike me here. They dislike for my views and opinions but that in no way compares to your near universal contempt people have for you. Yes, when it comes to you, I do speak for the majority of the board. But it's not me speaking as such, it's all those that have over the years that have formed the near universal consesus that you are just a vile, creepy, pervert.
And no, I have not searched myself. Of all your searching you can only come up with one from Josh from five years ago. Here's his more recent opinion which he commented on when I posted that YouTube vid with the homeless guy.
Joshua Rehaluk 7 months ago
You have a calm relaxing voice and seem like a decent guy. I guess I was wrong about you.
Joshua Rehaluk 7 months ago
@pellius not me up to shenanigans. I'd just straight up say it's me if its was. Like I said...you seem like a pretty good dude in these vids so you won't have any problems from me anymore. But I do hope you make more Hawaii vids. Relaxing voice and interesting place
Josh's derogatory post about you is all I could be bothered to post. As you said, there are a lot of people who dislike you. Do you think this is a contest to prove which of us is the most disliked? I couldn't care less who or how many folks here don't like me. I've made a few friends on Getbig and that's good enough for me.
It is obvious that you are an unhappy, unpleasant and extremely negative fellow.
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I have watched Pellius get into trouble here on Getbig several times. Most people would simply leave after the beating he took.
Not Philip Gilkey. He has something to prove and nobody will make him leave this forum. So he debates issues to the bitter end.
It is as if his whole being is being defended or something. As a kid he admitted he was always fighting others partly because of the
teasing. So he evolved into this internet warrior who takes no prisoners. He will do whatever he can to put others down.
All manner of dirty tricks are used. He always uses the ploy where he speaks for the forum and declares that his opponents or
targets are hated, etc. I mean, wtf is he on about? This is Getbig where the majority are anonymous dorks. The ultimate internet Flotsam.
No identity, no photos and no responsibility. Everyone thinks this is a great forum....until they get tarred and feathered.
I have supported Philip many times in the past. Last year something changed after he fought over his spare burger.
Anyone who criticised his behaviour became enemies. Unbelievable meltdown from a guy on the ropes.
Josh tricked me into revealing Philip's name. Well, Pellius posted a medical report with his name on it. I had saved that post so had his name.
Since Philip was saying nasty things about me I wanted to know about this guy. So did Josh.
What Josh did re contacting people is not something I would do. But Philip hated me anyway.
Now Josh and Philip chat on the phone. Who would have thought?
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I have watched Pellius get into trouble here on Getbig several times. Most people would simply leave after the beating he took.
Not Philip Gilkey. He has something to prove and nobody will make him leave this forum. So he debates issues to the bitter end.
It is as if his whole being is being defended or something. As a kid he admitted he was always fighting others partly because of the
teasing. So he evolved into this internet warrior who takes no prisoners. He will do whatever he can to put others down.
All manner of dirty tricks are used. He always uses the ploy where he speaks for the forum and declares that his opponents or
targets are hated, etc. I mean, wtf is he on about? This is Getbig where the majority are anonymous dorks. The ultimate internet Flotsam.
No identity, no photos and no responsibility. Everyone thinks this is a great forum....until they get tarred and feathered.
I have supported Philip many times in the past. Last year something changed after he fought over his spare burger.
Anyone who criticised his behaviour became enemies. Unbelievable meltdown from a guy on the ropes.
Josh tricked me into revealing Philip's name. Well, Pellius posted a medical report with his name on it. I had saved that post so had his name.
Since Philip was saying nasty things about me I wanted to know about this guy. So did Josh.
What Josh did re contacting people is not something I would do. But Philip hated me anyway.
Now Josh and Philip chat on the phone. Who would have thought?
I've been quite errant lately. I should know better. I will try to be a bigger and more responsible man. My new self-imposed rule to follow at the Getbig zoo is going to be "Don't Feed The Animals". I believe the temptation to do so will make sticking to my word very difficult. Wish me success. I need all the support I can get. ;)
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LOL. Never. You're ok in my book too. Our abortion dialogue while it did not change my mind, it made me see things through a different prism.
Not to get off this engaging topic, but a couple my brother knows who can't have kids of their own desperately want to adopt a child. They were actually told by the adoption agency that they would have a better and quicker chance if they choose to adopt from a foreign country. They explained that the line to adopt a baby is so long that it is a two year wait.
If people who are pro-abortion were just more honest and not pay this lip service that they are getting an abortion for altruistic reasons such as to save the child from a life of poverty and neglect. For the majority of cases, getting an abortion is just to spare them the inconvenience of having to go through a pregnancy and/or the sense of shame for the family to have your teenage daughter that you raised getting pregnant or, since now a child can get an abortion without parental consent, just save them the hassle altogether.
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Not to get off this engaging topic, but a couple my brother knows who can't have kids of their own desperately want to adopt a child. They were actually told by the adoption agency that they would have a better and quicker chance if they choose to adopt from a foreign country. They explained that the line to adopt a baby is so long that it is a two year wait. But, I think they could foster a child in the interim.
If people who are pro-abortion were just more honest and not pay this lip service that they are getting an abortion for altruistic reasons such as to save the child from a life of poverty and neglect. For the majority of cases, getting an abortion is just to spare them the inconvenience of having to go through a pregnancy and/or the sense of shame for the family to have your teenage daughter that you raised getting pregnant or, since now a child can get an abortion without parental consent, just save them the hassle altogether.
I don't think either of us could either prove or disprove this.
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Josh's derogatory post about you is all I could be bothered to post. As you said, there are a lot of people who dislike you. Do you think this is a contest to prove which of us is the most disliked? I couldn't care less who or how many folks here don't like me. I've made a few friends on Getbig and that's good enough for me.
It is obvious that you are an unhappy, unpleasant and extremely negative fellow.
Really? Well, let's compare the actual facts and evidence presented on this broad. I have posted pics of me with family and friends, at the gym, at work, at a New Year's Eve party,
at restaurants, at scenic points, there are pictures of me of my physique, video of me visiting the homeless... And what do we know of you? That you've gone to gloryholes to suck off and get plowed by complete strangers through a hole in the wall, have sex with men while being married, a picture of your wasting away physique which you wisely took down, and a face pic showing the classic look of a balding, big-nosed, dirty, old pervert with the expression of trying to explain himself when Chris Hansen has just walked into the room.
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I don't think either of us could either prove or disprove this.
The demand for a child as they grow older gets lower and lower as the age increases. The parent wants to experience the entire process of raising a child from the time they are born or as close to it as possible. The idea that you can tell them, "Well, just take in this foster child, for now, to fill in until we can get you a real baby," just demeans everybody.
https://www.fundyouradoption.org/resources/how-long-does-it-take-to-adopt-a-child/
12th paragraph
How long does it take to adopt a child that is a newborn? Newborn adoptions can take 2 to 7 years. The longest part of the process is finding and available newborn. The majority of people adopting want a newborn. the demand for newborns is much higher than the availability.
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My man, I'd love to live in a world with ZERO abortions. I just don't believe the average abortion is a black and white case of someone practicing post pregnancy birth control. I also wish there were more people willing and able to adopt and for those who are a safe, streamlined process to get children into good, quality homes.
Our government and society should do all they can to sow the seeds to where they are needed if not chosen less and less. Sex education and readily available birth control is a good place to start.
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I have watched Pellius get into trouble here on Getbig several times. Most people would simply leave after the beating he took.
Not Philip Gilkey. He has something to prove and nobody will make him leave this forum. So he debates issues to the bitter end.
It is as if his whole being is being defended or something. As a kid he admitted he was always fighting others partly because of the
teasing. So he evolved into this internet warrior who takes no prisoners. He will do whatever he can to put others down.
All manner of dirty tricks are used. He always uses the ploy where he speaks for the forum and declares that his opponents or
targets are hated, etc. I mean, wtf is he on about? This is Getbig where the majority are anonymous dorks. The ultimate internet Flotsam.
No identity, no photos and no responsibility. Everyone thinks this is a great forum....until they get tarred and feathered.
I have supported Philip many times in the past. Last year something changed after he fought over his spare burger.
Anyone who criticised his behaviour became enemies. Unbelievable meltdown from a guy on the ropes.
Josh tricked me into revealing Philip's name. Well, Pellius posted a medical report with his name on it. I had saved that post so had his name.
Since Philip was saying nasty things about me I wanted to know about this guy. So did Josh.
What Josh did re contacting people is not something I would do. But Philip hated me anyway.
Now Josh and Philip chat on the phone. Who would have thought?
The beaten I've taken? And you wonder why people just laugh at you. Just a delusional, bitter, old fat man. There is no doubt in anybody's mind that you are by far, far away the most mocked, ridiculed, and humiliated sad, old, bitter fatso.
Just the fact that you keep coming back on this board and suffer the continued and non-stop indignities proves just how delusional you are without an ounce of self-respect.
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LMFAO. The horror!
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The beaten I've taken? And you wonder why people just laugh at you. Just a delusional, bitter, old fat man. There is no doubt in anybody's mind that you are by far, far away the most mocked, ridiculed, and humiliated sad, old, bitter fatso.
Just the fact that you keep coming back on this board and suffer the continued and non-stop indignities proves just how delusional you are without an ounce of self-respect.
Philip Gilkey you have proven yourself to be a genuine sadistic pervert. Congratulations.
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My man, I'd love to live in a world with ZERO abortions. I just don't believe the average abortion is a black and white case of someone practicing post pregnancy birth control. I also wish there were more people willing and able to adopt and for those who are a safe, streamlined process to get children into good, quality homes.
Our government and society should do all they can to sow the seeds to where they are needed if not chosen less and less. Sex education and readily available birth control is a good place to start.
Note, the waiting process is not so much a function of streamlining the process but the fact of the lack of availability of new borns.
"demand for newborns is much higher than the availability."
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Note, the waiting process is not so much a function of streamlining the process but the fact of the lack of availability of new borns.
"demand for newborns is much higher than the availability."
The world is an imperfect place. I can only try to make good decisions for myself and help those I know to do the same.
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You have proven yourself to be a genuine sadistic pervert. Congratulations.
Typical, classic, Basile. This is something SF points out all the time about you. You come on here picking a fight and then when you get your ass handed to you, you whine and cry about how mean everybody is.
And you're judging my character? This coming from a guy who agrees with joswift that the only thing differing you from a Hitler, Stalin, Jeffrey Dahmer is just the circumstances. Given the "right" circumstance you would be just as much of a monster as they were.
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Typical, classic, Basile. This is something SF points out all the time about you. You come on here picking a fight and then when you get your ass handed to you, you whine and cry about how mean everybody is.
And you're judging my character? This coming from a guy who agrees with joswift that the only thing differing you from a Hitler, Stalin, Jeffrey Dahmer is just the circumstances. Given the "right" circumstance you would be just as much of a monster as they were.
I don't believe that all men are created equal therefore I do not ascribe to the notion that we are all capable of being as heinous as Hitler, Stalin, Netanyahu, Etc.
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Typical, classic, Basile. This is something SF points out all the time about you. You come on here picking a fight and then when you get your ass handed to you, you whine and cry about how mean everybody is.
And you're judging my character? This coming from a guy who agrees with joswift that the only thing differing you from a Hitler, Stalin, Jeffrey Dahmer is just the circumstances. Given the "right" circumstance you would be just as much of a monster as they were.
You are one pissed off guy. You go to church then post filth here like you are some sort of hero. You are sadistic. Must be from decades of being teased and having to fight others.
I don't agree with Joswift. I have no interest in debating such a foolish topic.
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No, that is not what you said. If you want to walk back from your origin claim and change that to having the "capacity" then you have no argument from me. You stated the notion that ALL of us are no better or no worse than the most vile monsters throughout history given the "right" circumstances.
Your understanding of morality is so skewed and twisted that it is beyond comprehension.
You even clearly stated that there is no difference from a moral perspective between killing and torture and shoplifting. Who thinks like that? Everybody, including God, acknowledges this.
fucking hell, those two statements are exactly the same
people have the same capacity for evil given the right circumstances...
Are you deliberately being dumb now?
Its not about what I believe about the level of severity of sins, I didnt give out the ten commandments in any order of severity your God did..
Oh, and you never told me who this "perfectly moral man" was, please dont tell me you think its Jesus, he was far from perfect..
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I don't believe that all men are created equal therefore I do not ascribe to the notion that we are all capable of being as heinous as Hitler, Stalin, Netanyahu, Etc.
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I think most people feel this way.
But to be precise, humans, I would even go as far as to say most humans, will behave as monsters given the wrong circumstances, but how far they will go varies widely. It is very shallow and simplistic to think everyone will be the same given the circumstances.
To be absolutely and completely corrupt and ruthless is not easy. You have to train for that. The more you act like a monster the more of a monster you become. Nobody starts out as a serial killer. You start with small animals, torturing and killing them, you move up to cats, dogs, become a bully, play cruel jokes; by your monstrous acts you grow more and more callous, and eventually, you attain a level few dare to go. That's what gets you a Saddam Hussein or a Mao. And because I believe in a sort of Yin and Yang in life, just as there are truly evil people in this world, there are truly good people in this world and people like joswift insults and dishonors these imperfect saints of the world but lumping them all together with the truly evil and that's only "circumstances" that determines this.
"Very few people can be totally ruthless. It isn't easy."
Even the ruthless murderer Tony Montana had a line he will not cross. Not everybody is as cold, cruel and barbaric given the "right" circumstances as joswift will have you believe.
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I think most people feel this way.
But to be precise, humans, I would even go as far as to say most humans, will behave as monsters given the wrong circumstances, but how far they will go varies widely. It is very shallow and simplistic to think everyone will be the same given the circumstances.
To be absolutely and completely corrupt and ruthless is not easy. You have to train for that. The more you act like a monster the more of a monster you become. Nobody starts out as a serial killer. You start with small animals, torturing and killing them, you move up to cats, dogs, become a bully, play cruel jokes; by your monstrous acts you grow more and more callous, and eventually, you attain a level few dare to go. That's what gets you a Saddam Hussein or a Mao. And because I believe in a sort of Yin and Yang in life, just as there are truly evil people in this world, there are truly good people in this world and people like joswift insults and dishonors these imperfect saints of the world but lumping them all together with the truly evil and that's only "circumstances" that determines this.
"Very few people can be totally ruthless. It isn't easy."
Even the ruthless murderer Tony Montana had a line he will not cross. Not everybody is as cold, cruel and barbaric given the "right" circumstances as joswift will have you believe.
you are now making my point for me, well done, I knew you would come around sooner or later...
although you are aware that the two clips you used are movies and as such are not real evidence...
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You are one pissed off guy. You go to church then post filth here like you are some sort of hero. You are sadistic. Must be from decades of being teased and having to fight others.
I don't agree with Joswift. I have no interest in debating such a foolish topic.
I love exposing the phonies and hypocrites.
Therefore, joswift is correct when he insists that everyone is capable of doing evil things.
You just have to put them in the right situation and time.
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fucking hell, those two statements are exactly the same
people have the same capacity for evil given the right circumstances...
Are you deliberately being dumb now?
Its not about what I believe about the level of severity of sins, I didnt give out the ten commandments in any order of severity your God did..
Oh, and you never told me who this "perfectly moral man" was, please dont tell me you think its Jesus, he was far from perfect..
Ah, up bright and early and straight to GetBig to see if I posted. God, can I own your simple little mind any more?
And no it's not the same. You are just a very shallow person and very simple-minded. It is one thing to say someone has the capacity, i.e., the ability to do something, but quite another saying they would, that we all would, given the circumstances. My sweet old aunt certainly has the capacity, the ability, to pull the trigger of a 1911 and put a bullet in her granddaughter's head, but there is no circumstances under Heaven and Earth in which she would do it.
You are trying to back-pedal because you have been exposed saying absolutely foolish
things like saying that morally there is no difference between killing/torture and stealing. Or that there is no difference between a Hitler and me when it is well known that I am the most vocal here on this board in the support of Jews and Israel.
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you are now making my point for me, well done, I knew you would come around sooner or later...
although you are aware that the two clips you used are movies and as such are not real evidence...
Bahaha! Look how desperate you are sounding. You are realizing how stupid you sound and reaching for straws to try to find a way to save face.
If I'm making your point then why argue. Just say, "You're right."
Keep delivering you lazy, both physically and intellectually, bum.
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Ah, up bright and early and straight to GetBig to see if I posted. God, can I own your simple little mind any more?
And no it's not the same. You are just a very shallow person and very simple-minded. It is one thing to say someone has the capacity, i.e., the ability to do something, but quite another saying they would, that we all would, given the circumstances. My sweet old aunt certainly has the capacity, the ability, to pull the trigger of a 1911 and put a bullet in her granddaughter's head, but there is no circumstances under Heaven and Earth in which she would do it.
You are trying to back-pedal because you have been exposed saying absolutely foolish
things like saying that morally there is no difference between killing/torture and stealing. Or that there is no difference between a Hitler and me when it is well known that I am the most vocal here on this board in the support of Jews and Israel.
thats what mothers who throw their babies in scalding baths say after they have done it...
I would wager under the right circumstances you would be worse than Hitler... you have already displayed psycotic tendencies in this thread...
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I am not convinced by Joswift's idea but not totally sure exactly what he is saying. I think people come in all types and will react differently depending on so many factors. I am more inclined to agree with Pellius but not the way he is always so angry and defensive. Makes for good entertainment but Pellius does get riled up and quite personal with his insults.
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I am not convinced by Joswift's idea but not totally sure exactly what he is saying. I think people come in all types and will react differently depending on so many factors. I am more inclined to agree with Pellius but not the way he is always so angry and defensive. Makes for good entertainment but Pellius does get riled up and quite personal with his insults.
I make a lot of stuff up as I go along, dont tell pellius though...
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I am not convinced by Joswift's idea but not totally sure exactly what he is saying. I think people come in all types and will react differently depending on so many factors. I am more inclined to agree with Pellius but not the way he is always so angry and defensive. Makes for good entertainment but Pellius does get riled up and quite personal with his insults.
Fight me.
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I am not convinced by Joswift's idea but not totally sure exactly what he is saying. I think people come in all types and will react differently depending on so many factors. I am more inclined to agree with Pellius but not the way he is always so angry and defensive. Makes for good entertainment but Pellius does get riled up and quite personal with his insults.
Actually he has been quite clear. Read the first post of this thread. There is no moral difference between any of us. That under the "right" circumstances we all will behave just like the monsters in this world like a Hiter and Stalin. No difference between our leaders and a Saddam Hussein or a Kim Jun Un. He even stated plainly that my 82 year old aunt would behave that way under the "right" circumstances.
This type of moral confusion is what allows him to believe and state unequivocally that there is no moral difference between murder/torture and stealing.
Of course morality has different levels.....Any sane person acknowledges this.
Do you equate killing/torture with shoplifting? Jeez....
legally yes, morally no...
In the eyes of God every one of us has broke all the 10 commandments
we are all as guilty as each other..
Think of the most evil people in history , you , you yourself could do exactly the same thing.
And someone who doesnt believe that is far more dangerous than someone who knows what hes capable of and chooses not to do it.
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Ah, Tim, I'm so glad you are here. We go back many years and though we've never met, we both know the type of men we are. I can't count the number of times when I've felt us to be kindred spirits. Very different lives but cut from the same mold.
You've been back and forth on the wrong side of the streets and have done things, like me, that you are not proud of. Sometimes life just gets the best of you and brings out the worse. But I know that you are at heart a decent man. That there is a line of depravity that you will not cross no matter what. You still believe in that now archiac notion of honor that you will take to your grave.
And that is the crux of the matter. Josswift believes that under "the right" circumstances we will all revert to savages. There are no differences between the true monsters in this world and you, or your wife, daughter, niece! At it's core, there no difference between a Pol Pot, who will have you executed if you did not have callouses on your hand or were a professional. Or a Kim Jung Un who will torture and execute his own people if you speak out against him or have you own relatives killed because you think they might be a threat to your power, or a Saddam Hussein who had rape squads to torture and humiliate his enemies. We are all the same at the core.
You know how hard it is to adhere to a moral code of honor. To let principle trump you base and primitive desires. Joswift insults and dishonors all the good men and women throughout history who overcame the dark side that is within all of us and made the world a better place.
He is, if you remember the term from back in day, "filt"!
pellius I agree we are cut somewhat from the same cloth,and I believe we are both good people.
That being said, I don`t want to get involved in this one for no other reason except to say that I honestly like and respect both of you guys as people, and for what you both bring to the forum........... whether I agree all the time or never agree,it`s always great stuff !!
Carry on gentlemen and yes bro I remember the word FILT just as is it was yesterday !! ;D
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thats what mothers who throw their babies in scalding baths say after they have done it...
I would wager under the right circumstances you would be worse than Hitler... you have already displayed psycotic tendencies in this thread...
Yes, keep talking. Keep exposing yourself. Now, I am actually worse than Hitler. An average completely unremarkable person born and raised in the middle of the Pacific Ocean is now suddenly on par with one of the most brutal tyrants in history. There were a lot of exceptionally cruel and ruthless men during the Nazi era but only one Hitler.
But, someone like me, actually surpassed him -- given the "right" circumstances.
Your credibility fade with every post you make.
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I make a lot of stuff up as I go along, dont tell pellius though...
Ah, since you have been exposed as a nutjob, and no one, when the issue is stated plainly, agrees with you and there have been some brave enough to state that you are a nutcase and mentally deranged, you are now looking for a way to back step, and save face, and try to imply you were only joking. This, what? 14 pages, was all just a big joke.
Yeah, the jokes on me. Good one.
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pellius I agree we are cut somewhat from the same cloth,and I believe we are both good people.
That being said, I don`t want to get involved in this one for no other reason except to say that I honestly like and respect both of you guys as people, and for what you both bring to the forum........... whether I agree all the time or never agree,it`s always great stuff !!
Carry on gentlemen and yes bro I remember the word FILT just as is it was yesterday !! ;D
I understand, and I know that, no matter what the "right" circumstance you find yourself in, you are a man of decency and honor and that there is a line you will not cross no matter what.
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I understand, and I know that, no matter what the "right" circumstance you find yourself in, you are a man of decency and honor and that there is a line you will not cross no matter what.
Right back at ya my brother !!
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Ah, since you have been exposed as a nutjob, and no one, when the issue is stated plainly, agrees with you and there have been some brave enough to state that you are a nutcase and mentally deranged, you are now looking for a way to back step, and save face, and try to imply you were only joking. This, what? 14 pages, was all just a big joke.
Yeah, the jokes on me. Good one.
For me yes, for you no, it was deadly serious for you...
I agree with most things I have written, its just from your initial outburst I knew if I just exaggerated a little you would lose your mind...
At 60 years of age living in a beautiful place like Hawaii you really shouldn't have anything to make you behave like you do on here...
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Oh Lord....Lord of the Flies that is.
There's a lot of Getbig like behavior in this film. Many of the folks here in these forums are at the same level of maturity and about as civilized as are the wild boys.
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For me yes, for you no, it was deadly serious for you...
I agree with most things I have written, its just from your initial outburst I knew if I just exaggerated a little you would lose your mind...
At 60 years of age living in a beautiful place like Hawaii you really shouldn't have anything to make you behave like you do on here...
My initial major in college was Philosophy. Subjects like God, morality, ethics, how one should live, what kind of man do I want to be... were, still is, very serious business for me. I always assume that people thought and wondered about these things. Like what happens when you die. I was very surprised at how many people never give this a second thought. I remember asking a friend of mine back in 1982, a man in his late sixties born and raised in Korea, about what he thinks happens when he dies. He told me he never gave it much thought. I asked him, "Well, what about now? What do you think now that I am asking you?" He just shrugged his shoulders and said, "You just die."
Anyway, I had a couple of wise counseling sessions with my online therapist. He made some good points and I know he speaks from a huge amount of experience.
Oh, and this online therapist was not SF but Josh.
I'm out.
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Insanity.
An example of insanity is a personality disorder.
An example of insanity is jumping out of an airplane without a parachute.
An example of insanity is having another insane person be your on-line therapist.
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Insane Clown Posse
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My initial major in college was Philosophy. Subjects like God, morality, ethics, how one should live, what kind of man do I want to be... were, still is, very serious business for me. I always assume that people thought and wondered about these things. Like what happens when you die. I was very surprised at how many people never give this a second thought. I remember asking a friend of mine back in 1982, a man in his late sixties born and raised in Korea, about what he thinks happens when he dies. He told me he never gave it much thought. I asked him, "Well, what about now? What do you think now that I am asking you?" He just shrugged his shoulders and said, "You just die."
Anyway, I had a couple of wise counseling sessions with my online therapist. He made some good points and I know he speaks from a huge amount of experience.
Oh, and this online therapist was not SF but Josh.
I'm out.
I have no idea why you quoted me and then wrote a post that had absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.
Nevertheless Im glad you have finally calmed down although you still haven't explained who the "moral man" was, maybe you have changed your mind on the person in question due to your recent enlightenment..
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If we could convert this entire thread into one video, it would look something like this:
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If we could convert this entire thread into one video, it would look something like this:
;D ;D ;D
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If we could convert this entire thread into one video, it would look something like this:
Hahaha, post of the year ;D
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If we could convert this entire thread into one video, it would look something like this:
hahaha I havent even been trying, it would be more like this
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hahaha I havent even been trying, it would be more like this
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I don't picture you being that dark. :D
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I don't picture you being that dark. :D
But you do see pellius throwing that many punches?
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But you do see pellius throwing that many punches?
If your a homeless bum with an exposed penis asking for a hamburger....then yes, it seems possible.
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If your a homeless bum with an exposed penis asking for a hamburger....then yes, it seems possible.
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Fight me.
LOL You have plenty of spirit I will give you that! You're like a whirlwind on getbig battling people in multiple threads but glad you have kept your sense of humour. I remember that video you did in the aftermath of the bum-burger incident, you sounded like a really nice, friendly dude. Must just be something about this site that gets you going attacking everything that moves!
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I don't picture you being that dark. :D
HAHAAA...
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But you do see pellius throwing that many punches?
I'd see a kick coming for sure!