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Author Topic: How many here can shoulder press over 225 Naturally?  (Read 17578 times)
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« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2006, 05:42:23 PM »

I would like to see anyone on this site post a video of them handling 225 lbs EASILY in the STANDING overhead press.  I would also like to see a video of anyone EASILY handling over 250 lbs in the seated press.

These are certainly not impossible lifts but they are very good and pretty rare.

Chris, put $500 into an escrow account or PayPal to Ron and give me one month of training and I will do 250 lbs. for 10 reps in the seated front press.  I will pause at the bottom of each rep a minimum of 1 second and go all the way up.  I will video tape it and all.  Right now I have no gym to go to but I could go pay for a month at the other gym in town.  All I need is one month to get that weight back.  Thats just $2 a pound.

And by the way that is 10000% natural and drug free
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« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2006, 05:42:30 PM »

I can do 4 plates on both sides shoulder pressin on the smith...then i ussually drop set each plate and do 5 reps per plate. I do five sets of this and that is how i start shoulders.

lol isn't that what levrone does

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« Reply #102 on: October 11, 2006, 05:42:38 PM »

most people cheat on shoulders and do them on a decline seated, or partial range of motion.

I opt to use less weight then dicking around with heavy.
and your shoulders are huge, this is mute evidence to the fact that you should be using a full range of motion instead of fooling around with partials.
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« Reply #103 on: October 11, 2006, 05:43:45 PM »

Chris, put $500 into an escrow account or PayPal to Ron and give me one month of training and I will do 250 lbs. for 10 reps in the seated front press.  I will pause at the bottom of each rep a minimum of 1 second and go all the way up.  I will video tape it and all.  Right now I have no gym to go to but I could go pay for a month at the other gym in town.  All I need is one month to get that weight back.  Thats just $2 a pound.

And by the way that is 10000% natural and drug free
that would be like taking candy from a baby Keith, you're a freak of nature on pressing movements.
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« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2006, 05:44:17 PM »

hahaa remember Mr. Intenseone's "shoulder press" pictures that was actually incline bench?   
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« Reply #105 on: October 11, 2006, 05:45:35 PM »

Even for naturals it is all relative to weight. A natural guy who weighs 250 should be able to push 185 for 6 fairly easily.
ok let me re phrase this, i think that a BODYWEIGHT shoulder press seatedfor a single is a good goal for anyone natural but 185 for 6 full reps is still impressive.
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« Reply #106 on: October 11, 2006, 05:45:46 PM »

I've done 220x2 and 205x5 on standing overhead presses.
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« Reply #107 on: October 11, 2006, 05:47:18 PM »

I've done 220x2 and 205x5 on standing overhead presses.
that's actually very respectable weight, more than you see 90 percent of guys in most gyms using.
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« Reply #108 on: October 11, 2006, 05:47:30 PM »

ok let me re phrase this, i think that a BODYWEIGHT shoulder press seatedfor a single is a good goal for anyone natural but 185 for 6 full reps is still impressive.

I will do a seated bw next time I workout just to test myself. I grabbed 205 off the squat rack and kind of bounced it up for one, but that doesn't count.
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« Reply #109 on: October 11, 2006, 05:49:22 PM »

I will do a seated bw next time I workout just to test myself. I grabbed 205 off the squat rack and kind of bounced it up for one, but that doesn't count.
i wouldn't doubt that you could do that you seem to have strong shoulders, i've been doing mine from upper chest level in the rack seated and my last workout was 225 for 5 very hard reps.
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« Reply #110 on: October 11, 2006, 05:50:11 PM »

I can do 4 plates on both sides shoulder pressin on the smith...then i ussually drop set each plate and do 5 reps per plate. I do five sets of this and that is how i start shoulders.

Four two and a half pound plates on each side.
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« Reply #111 on: October 11, 2006, 05:55:25 PM »

i wouldn't doubt that you could do that you seem to have strong shoulders, i've been doing mine from upper chest level in the rack seated and my last workout was 225 for 5 very hard reps.

I thought I had real strong shoulders(for my size) then TA told me he can do 110 db's for 10 and he weighs less. I have some work to do.
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« Reply #112 on: October 11, 2006, 05:55:29 PM »

texas rush is the only one keeping it real here. some people who talk about 225 as heavy on shoulder press aren't meant to be strong sorry. 225 should be a warmup if your a serious trainer with some years under your belt.
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« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2006, 06:03:31 PM »

texas rush is the only one keeping it real here. some people who talk about 225 as heavy on shoulder press aren't meant to be strong sorry. 225 should be a warmup if your a serious trainer with some years under your belt.

That is absolutely correct.  And I am very surprised with Chris Masons remark. 
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« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2006, 06:13:44 PM »

i could if i started training military press again.....i stopped after training them only about  year and i was already repping 185 about 10 times.....
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« Reply #115 on: October 11, 2006, 06:45:51 PM »

Chris, put $500 into an escrow account or PayPal to Ron and give me one month of training and I will do 250 lbs. for 10 reps in the seated front press.  I will pause at the bottom of each rep a minimum of 1 second and go all the way up.  I will video tape it and all.  Right now I have no gym to go to but I could go pay for a month at the other gym in town.  All I need is one month to get that weight back.  Thats just $2 a pound.

And by the way that is 10000% natural and drug free

Lol, I should have qualified it as anyone but you.  Based upon your other lifts and your size I have ZERO problem believing you can do it.  Tell you what, from now on if I call b.s. on lifts you are exempt.   Wink

Now, for all of the others who make the claim I would LOVE to see it.  I am sure there are some that can but I am equally sure half of the jacks claiming such lifts here are full of shit.
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« Reply #116 on: October 11, 2006, 06:51:54 PM »

That is absolutely correct.  And I am very surprised with Chris Masons remark. 

You seem to have a bit of trouble with understanding how strong 95% of the population is.  Your claimed lifts (which I tend to believe) place you in the absolute upper echelon of strength athletes (your best lifts).  99.9% of the population cannot match those lifts and yet you seem to think them pedestrian.  Overhead pressing anything over 200 lbs is quite good and most assuredly well above average.  Yes, plenty of people can do it but plenty cannot come close.  As much as I hate to agree with sarcasm I think he is spot on with what he has said in this thread.  Oh, and before you get all excited again I know several of the strongest men in the world and have a pretty solid grasp on what is a good lift and what isn't.

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« Reply #117 on: October 11, 2006, 06:54:30 PM »

I thought I had real strong shoulders(for my size) then TA told me he can do 110 db's for 10 and he weighs less. I have some work to do.
BULLSHITTTTTTT!  I would need video proof before believing something like that from a scrawny chump like him.  Don't be so gullible.
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« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2006, 06:55:14 PM »

I thought I had real strong shoulders(for my size) then TA told me he can do 110 db's for 10 and he weighs less. I have some work to do.

Real strong shoulders? Danielson, you have girly shoulders, you dont even look like you fuking train, stfu. Id pay money to see you press 225. there is no way...youd be the strongest small guy i ever saw if you could. weenie.
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« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2006, 07:16:25 PM »

how long does a lifetime natural have to achive those goals, because thats almost exactly me. i just turned 20, im 5' 9'' 195 body fat 12-13. i can bench 295, squat 375, dead 495, and cling and press 225. however if i lost some body fat and got down to a better body fat 8-9 % i think soem of my lifts wld go down. i cant wait to juice
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« Reply #120 on: October 11, 2006, 07:17:33 PM »

Real strong shoulders? Danielson, you have girly shoulders, you dont even look like you fuking train, stfu. Id pay money to see you press 225. there is no way...youd be the strongest small guy i ever saw if you could. weenie.

His max shoulder press is 205, yet he says he can bench 365 for 4... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #121 on: October 11, 2006, 07:25:05 PM »

I think a good rule of thumb for a natural to achieve is relative to bodyweight:

bench = 2 x bodyweight
squat = 3 x bodyweight
deadlift = 3 x bodyweight

It's all relative.  Grin
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« Reply #122 on: October 11, 2006, 07:29:18 PM »

well i can tell you there is no way in hell i will ever squat almost 600 pounds. my personal goals are bench, 350, deadlift 600, squat 400
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« Reply #123 on: October 11, 2006, 07:31:32 PM »

Real strong shoulders? Danielson, you have girly shoulders, you dont even look like you fuking train, stfu. Id pay money to see you press 225. there is no way...youd be the strongest small guy i ever saw if you could. weenie.


I can't shoulder press 225 dumbass. But I can bench 365 for 4. You must be a weak fat guy.
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« Reply #124 on: October 11, 2006, 07:33:34 PM »


I can't shoulder press 225 dumbass. But I can bench 365 for 4. You must be a weak fat guy.

your bench is ridiculously strong for your weight dude.  you're benching more than twice your weight for 4..
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