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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stavios on August 20, 2007, 10:55:37 AM
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NOT ! :o
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From the front, relaxed Milos was second to none.....sick fuggin wheels
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
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did that guy next to him decide on a name for his soon to be born baby yet?
just wondering.
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Arms seem to tape out at a full 16" 8)
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i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
::) Arvilla, post one of your pics next to Milos' pic
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::) Arvilla, post one of your pics next to Milos' pic
hahahaahaaaaaa
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When Milos was next to Ronnie in the 1999 English Grand Prix, he did look much smaller, but he only lacked thickness compared to the biggest competitors.
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprixdvd.html
Will he be competing anytime soon? It looks like he's juicing like a pro so he may as well be competing.
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I'm not really finding a whole lot to complain about here...
(http://www.kulturistika.sk/pages/galeria/muzi/milos_sarcev/milos_sarcev11.jpg)
(http://tm-mwgl.com/original/a067cc30.jpg)
I am.......Milos has a very small package. :o
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Great physique.
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Milos luvs to drop his pants.
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Does Milos still have a penis ?
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NOT ! :o
lol you got me there!
but he SHOULD be there with the other guys he's training, be cool to meet him.
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I am.......Milos has a very small package. :o
gayer than a fruit cocktail t-shirt
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
::) ::) ::)
One of his 'sixteen inch arms' is bigger than both of your pathetic legs.
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I'm gayer than a fruit cocktail t-shirt
Why out yourself on getbig?
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good to see somebody practicing what they preach
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Damn I miss the 90's. Milos you and the other old farts of bodybuilding should do the ironman or something, just for ol times sake.
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some of the best quads ever
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I predict Milos top 3 at Montreal Pro,
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
better than being an ironing board without abs :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28115.0;attach=102175;image)(http://tm-mwgl.com/original/a067cc30.jpg)
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better than being an ironing board without abs :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28115.0;attach=102175;image)(http://tm-mwgl.com/original/a067cc30.jpg)
WTF is that 'thing' behind Arvilla ???
:-X
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I predict Milos top 3 at Montreal Pro,
he won't really compete in montreal
but he will win the australian pro show in 2008 8)
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With all the crazy ass training milos does, does his physique really show for it? I mean seriously, I would do that kind of training only if my physique was to improve by 20% AT LEAST. With the amount of drugs these guys take it seems to me that training makes little difference- the only requirement is that u train the muscle somehow, doesn't matter what method.
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With all the crazy ass training milos does, does his physique really show for it? I mean seriously, I would do that kind of training only if my physique was to improve by 20% AT LEAST. With the amount of drugs these guys take it seems to me that training makes little difference- the only requirement is that u train the muscle somehow, doesn't matter what method.
look at his quads and stfu
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better than being an ironing board without abs :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28115.0;attach=102175;image)(http://tm-mwgl.com/original/a067cc30.jpg)
Somebody needs to get some clothes on that starving ethiopian next to milos, exploiting the poor and starved of the world is just plain wrong >:( >:(
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look at his quads and stfu
didn't deny that he had great quads, or that he was a GREAT overall physique... but how different would it be had he continued training like he used to? :P
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didn't deny that he had great quads, or that he was a GREAT overall physique... but how different would it be had he continued training like he used to? :P
haha ya i know what you're saying...i highly doubt he used to train this way in the 90s when he was at his peak
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Wasn't comparing myself to Milos,just commenting he lacks "thickness",like Marcus Ruhl does not lack thickness,when turned to the side Milo's physique looked "thin" like a piece of paper
that thickness fills you out (comes from heavy basic movements,deadlifits,squats,rows,)
Mike
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28115.0;attach=102175;image)(http://tm-mwgl.com/original/a067cc30.jpg)
some say comparing Arvillia to Milos is apples and oranges...to me its all bananas..b-a-n-a-n-a-s bananas
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Both have small banana's in their shorts.
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Look at the geek behind Michael hahaha.
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Beyond pro-level quads coupled with boyscout-level arms.
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Beyond pro-level quads coupled with boyscout-level arms.
Are you saying Milos is the kind of guy who gets angry when someone asks him how big his arms are, MoS?
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Mike is a good guy and is married to a woman 10 times above what he deserves
with that said
apart from the insulin..I wonder who takes more gear?
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Are you saying Milos is the kind of guy who gets angry when someone asks him how big his arms are, MoS?
Alls I'm sayin is the last time Milos trained arms his hair was still brown and Boyz to Men were topping the charts.
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Milos is not a believer in bicep curls.
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Look at the geek behind Michael hahaha.
That guy was very short, and he was also over 50.
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That guy was very short, and he was also over 50.
So it is safe to assume that you blew him while 'mike' watched :-\
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I guess anyone who criticises a pro has to lok like one himself ::) Epic, just epic..
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i like water
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So it is safe to assume that you blew him while 'mike' watched :-\
Watch your mouth
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Watch your mouth
Looks like I hit the nail right on 'the head' :-X
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So it is safe to assume that you blew him while 'mike' watched :-\
Ya know, they say that a guy who constantly talks about someone else having sex is doing so because he himself can't get it up...
Is this true Jae? ;)
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Ya know, they say that a guy who constantly talks about someone else having sex is doing so because he himself can't get it up...
Is this true Jae? ;)
yeah it is, esp. when its in a girls mouth.... I ll show you ... :-* **hold tight mikey**
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i love shawna
oh really..
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yeah it is, esp. when its in a girls mouth.... I ll show you ... :-* **hold tight mikey**
Careful Jae, I bite ;)
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Careful Jae, I bite ;)
just take out your teeth before hand
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just take out your teeth before hand
Don't quit your day job BullShitBeater. ::)
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Wasn't comparing myself to Milos,just commenting he lacks "thickness",like Marcus Ruhl does not lack thickness,when turned to the side Milo's physique looked "thin" like a piece of paper
that thickness fills you out (comes from heavy basic movements,deadlifits,squats,rows,)
Mike
So when were you planning to pick up those movements then?
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Don't quit your day job BullShitBeater. ::)
you kiss mike with that mouth?
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you kiss mike with that mouth?
Yes, but after I put my teeth back in. :-*
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Yes, but after I put my teeth back in. :-*
that's disgusting
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that's disgusting
hahahaha fvcking awesome.
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I enjoy getting top by my boyfriends. Its great for the glutes.
???
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that's disgusting
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howcome Shawn makes my glutes get bigger ???
huh?
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Why is he always contest ready?
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Why is he always contest ready?
You'd know if u witnessed the cardio sessions he calls weight-training ;D All kidding aside, that's some brutal training, seems pretty unnecessary at his level.
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WTF is that 'thing' behind Arvilla ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28115.0;attach=102175;image)
:-X
That "thing" behind Arvilla happened to be the overall winner that night. You have no clue how amazing that man truly is..
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Will he be competing anytime soon? It looks like he's juicing like a pro so he may as well be competing.
I doubt Milos would juice unless he was prepping for a show. Even when competing he was only "on" half of the time.
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I doubt Milos would juice unless he was prepping for a show. Even when competing he was only "on" half of the time.
i hope you're being sarcastic or something.
milos has juiced written all over him.
i will see that i don't think anyone from his gym comes near him on quads. those are some awesome quads alright.
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i hope you're being sarcastic or something.
milos has juiced written all over him.
i will see that i don't think anyone from his gym comes near him on quads. those are some awesome quads alright.
Whats your opinion on his ridiculous training technique? If I had to go through that leg workout, I would have to expect to see even great short-term results.. and these guys do it day in and out. :o
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Whats your opinion on his ridiculous training technique? If I had to go through that leg workout, I would have to expect to see even great short-term results.. and these guys do it day in and out. :o
have you ever tried his rediculous training technique? Maybe you should try it for 6-8 weeks and see what results you get when you go back to heavy basics.
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have you ever tried his rediculous training technique? Maybe you should try it for 6-8 weeks and see what results you get when you go back to heavy basics.
Impossible to do without his guidance no? It's not like he's put up a "milos training program for all" or anything. I don't wanna be following his workouts without the proper knowledge. Even though I don't train for "bodybuilding" I think its pretty fun and am willing to give it time... just dunno if I'll have enough equipment to do those giant sets :P
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Impossible to do without his guidance no? It's not like he's put up a "milos training program for all" or anything. I don't wanna be following his workouts without the proper knowledge. Even though I don't train for "bodybuilding" I think its pretty fun and am willing to give it time... just dunno if I'll have enough equipment to do those giant sets :P
What's so mysterious about it? You do a bunch of exercises in succession. He showed a few workouts in the web shows.
I just remembered the Cybergenics training program. Anyone do it? It was kinda similar IIRC.
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Impossible to do without his guidance no? It's not like he's put up a "milos training program for all" or anything. I don't wanna be following his workouts without the proper knowledge. Even though I don't train for "bodybuilding" I think its pretty fun and am willing to give it time... just dunno if I'll have enough equipment to do those giant sets :P
just giant set a few exercises together, IMO, try the "big" lifts first in order, then the machines, dumbells, etc, different exercises, same bodypart. Try only 4-5 exercises 10 reps each, 4-5 sets. See how you feel at the end of 6-8 weeks. Give it an honest try and you might be surprised.
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Long as you have the proper nutrition, is OK to train intens,heavy, super sets,giant sets ect.... you will go no were with body by Jack training.
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
Mike Quinn's famous quote of Milo's physique equated to being a "pipe cleaner".
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Milos is in better shape than his clients....why? He uses less insulin, proof if you cut out or use less, you can be ripped, instead of the unstraiated people you see now!
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Mike Quinn's famous quote of Milo's physique equated to being a "pipe cleaner".
yes ..he lacks thickness (only on GET-BIG would this be debated)
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the same could be said about Zane, Milos wasnt going for the mass monster GH gut look-so what ? ::)
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the same could be said about Zane, Milos wasnt going for the mass monster GH gut look-so what ? ::)
Then why would he want his clients to have that look, the best physiques were built without insulin!!
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sounds like the coach needs to lay off the juice, he's going mental over insulin, he probably can't get any and he's pissed.
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sounds like the coach needs to lay off the juice, he's going mental over insulin, he probably can't get any and he's pissed.
No, I can get it, i just prefer to come into shows ripped!
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Milos is actually 7 months out of Australian pro show in March 2008
I hope he can be qualified for Olympia 2008 !!
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
i'd be really interested in knowing what your own physique reminds you of . . .
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I saw Milos in early July and he had trained in 2-3 weeks! was travelling and doing seminars etc. Now he said he was the smallest he had been in a long time, 230-235lbs!!! but he was SHREDDED!!!! With this conditon to start a transformation, the the sky is the limit!! He looks now like he is up to 250lbs and he could easily hit 265 by Olympia time at still only 6% BF!!! I never seen anyone pack it on like Milos WHILST keeping very low body fat!! Even at 265lbs he could diet for 4 weeks and be ready!! getting condition is easy for Milos, its finding the time to commit 100% to a show that is the hard part! He could walk on any stage now, no problem, but imagine 1 full year of full commitment! with the way he packs it on while staying so lean than he could/will do MAJOR damage!!
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I saw Milos in early July and he had trained in 2-3 weeks! was travelling and doing seminars etc. Now he said he was the smallest he had been in a long time, 230-235lbs!!! but he was SHREDDED!!!! With this conditon to start a transformation, the the sky is the limit!! He looks now like he is up to 250lbs and he could easily hit 265 by Olympia time at still only 6% BF!!! I never seen anyone pack it on like Milos WHILST keeping very low body fat!! Even at 265lbs he could diet for 4 weeks and be ready!! getting condition is easy for Milos, its finding the time to commit 100% to a show that is the hard part! He could walk on any stage now, no problem, but imagine 1 full year of full commitment! with the way he packs it on while staying so lean than he could/will do MAJOR damage!!
I thought he said that his muscle won't grow where he'd used sythol before. How's he going to fix that?
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I thought he said that his muscle won't grow where he'd used sythol before. How's he going to fix that?
Didn't he also say because of the damage from the synthol he had the heart of an 80 year old man, I thought I remember an artical of him saying that.
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Maybe his shake healed his heart?
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yes ..he lacks thickness (only on GET-BIG would this be debated)
Hey Mike, how's the training going? Any progress on bringing up the quads from the front?
Arms and chest look good (superior to 99% of posters here on getbig) so don't get discouraged by the haters.
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My guess is one of the reasons we really never see Milo's without a shirt on is because he too has in fact been using quite abit of inslin...And that famous stomach probably isn't what it used to be...
Even though he looks ripped to shredds...My guess is his stomach has grew many inches over the last few years...And we will never seen him back on stage...He will bow out of the montreal with sickness...
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Didn't he also say because of the damage from the synthol he had the heart of an 80 year old man, I thought I remember an artical of him saying that.
What do u think about his training style joe?
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My guess is one of the reasons we really never see Milo's without a shirt on is because he too has in fact been using quite abit of inslin...And that famous stomach probably isn't what it used to be...
Even though he looks ripped to shredds...My guess is his stomach has grew many inches over the last few years...And we will never seen him back on stage...He will bow out of the montreal with sickness...
there is pic floating around of him showing his midsection, shirt pulled up, and he is still in very good shape, not bloated at all.
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there is pic floating around of him showing his midsection, shirt pulled up, and he is still in very good shape, not bloated at all.
hi milos.
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hi milos.
hi Sean Rey :-*
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hi Sean Rey :-*
You couldn't come up with anything better >:( Like Akhhmed Haidar or anything?
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there is pic floating around of him showing his midsection, shirt pulled up, and he is still in very good shape, not bloated at all.
I've seen one that looks nothing like it did when he competed years ago...No way that Milo's hasn't been playing around with tons of slin...
I guess we will see when he steps on stage in montreal...That is if he doesn't get sick...
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What do u think about his training style joe?
I think it's good, but only for about a 6-8 week periodization, I don't know how long (weeks wise) he runs these types of workouts for, but lets take a quick look....
3 rounds of:
--smith machine squats
--bench squats
--squats
--barbell lunges
--lunges to next machine
--smith machine squats w/ feet way out in front
--front squats
--leg presses w/ toes out to get hams and inner thighs
--leg extensions
--leg presses #2
--barbell lunges #2
--sissy squats on hack squat machine
--half-rep (all the way down, half way up) hack squats
--squats
--1 leg at a time lunges (10 reps one leg, then switch legs) on smith machine
--hack squats on machine #2
--leg presses #3
Then we got off easy on the last part:
--hack squats - non-stop: 1 rep w/ 6 plates (per side), 2 reps 5 plates, 3 reps 4 plates, 4 reps 3 plates, 5 reps 2 plates, 6 reps 1 plate, 10 reps sissy squats
--50 reps leg presses
--50 reps leg extensions
Here you have 20 different "quad" exercises, overkill if you are trying to put on size, great if you want to condition and get harder, the downside is when your training on this method, you use two of the three energy systems up very quickly (ATP/CP and Glycolitic) and then go into the aerobic system..........but this is where Milos' drink comes in, it quickly replaces the ATP that you use during the workout, but all in all........it's an aerobic training method to 'Wow" his clients, they get a great workout, they think he's a training God and they're happy )even if it's for a while. (Lets also not forget what most of Milos' clients are or might be on)!
During the football season, I will run a "power" circuit for my athletes using about 12 different power exercises (full body), the goal is to help keep them injury free, maintain the strength we built in the offseason, keep there function and conditioning.
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very insightful, it seems quite intuitive that a giant set like that is overkill for bodybuilding purposes (just take a look at the loads invovled, 95 pd smith sqts lol). Imagine what their heart rate gets upto, it's like high intensity cardio workout basically. I think the same energy systems are invovled when doing sprints? And it's not a particularly fun way of staying in shape either, 50 rep squats and leg presses after doing THAT giant set THREE times, LMAO! Atleast the guy's think it's better that they get away with no cardio :P
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very insightful, it seems quite intuitive that a giant set like that is overkill for bodybuilding purposes (just take a look at the loads invovled, 95 pd smith sqts lol). Imagine what their heart rate gets upto, it's like high intensity cardio workout basically. I think the same energy systems are invovled when doing sprints? And it's not a particularly fun way of staying in shape either, 50 rep squats and leg presses after doing THAT giant set THREE times, LMAO! Atleast the guy's think it's better that they get away with no cardio :P
When sprinting, you only go into the Glycolitic system simply because sprints are usually less than two minutes, Unless Milos or his clients are resting about 90sec-2min between exercises, that wouldn't be the case, but if they are going from one exercise to the other with 30sec or less, he's clearly into the aerobic system. BTW, that's more of a circuit than a giant set.
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When sprinting, you only go into the Glycolitic system simply because sprints are usually less than two minutes, Unless Milos or his clients are resting about 90sec-2min between exercises, that wouldn't be the case, but if they are going from one exercise to the other with 30sec or less, he's clearly into the aerobic system. BTW, that's more of a circuit than a giant set.
What if one used sprints to increase endurance with repeated laps with rest or jog in between? seems like the same thing's being done except with no weights? Milo's calls it giant sets I think, so that's why I used the term. Whats the definition of a giant set then? I don't think milos has them resting between sets at all.
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Milos is actually 7 months out of Australian pro show in March 2008
I hope he can be qualified for Olympia 2008 !!
I personally prefer Milos's physique to the current day physiques. he actually has a waist and aesthetics, etc.
he is doing the aussie show? that means, Me and Milos will finally meet, this will definitely create a stir in the getbig community! I will be at the Kolloseum Stand selling 8 x 10's and supplements.
"COME ON MILOS! ITS OLYMPIA TIME"
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What if one used sprints to increase endurance with repeated laps with rest or jog in between?
When you train for sprints for example, you would run a lets say 100m, rest 3-5min and repeat, the reason, in the 100m dash your body is usually into the ATP/CP energy systems, since you use ATP quickly, it takes at least that long to regenerate the ATP, ATP usually has only about a 30sec capacity.
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hi Sean Rey :-*
I thought I was him ???
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
Yes, I noticed the Mike Quinn quote rip off too.
Milos always had those overhanging obliques despite a small hip structure. Well proportioned however - limb length relative to torso etc. Nicely cut but not as dry as some. Should have placed a little higher generally though.
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Yes, I noticed the Mike Quinn quote rip off too.
Milos always had those overhanging obliques despite a small hip structure. Well proportioned however - limb length relative to torso etc. Nicely cut but not as dry as some. Should have placed a little higher generally though.
Milo was the Frank Zane of the 1990's. PERIOD. END of STORY.
He simply lacked(s) the dense bone structure/genetics to carry muscle that gets into the top 3 places on the planet.
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Milo was the Frank Zane of the 1990's. PERIOD. END of STORY.
He simply lacked(s) the dense bone structure/genetics to carry muscle that gets into the top 3 places on the planet.
Milos pretty much had the perfect physique give or take abit more thickness.
frank zane is one of my favourites i mean the cut up look is fantastic.
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i just realised something....
does this mean that Luke and Milos will be competing in the same comp?
never thought i'd see that....will be very interesting to see.
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So much talking and louder than anybody.
BUT HE DIDNT WIN MR.O INSPITE OF HAVING GENETIC.
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hi Sean Rey :-*
lol @ "Sean Rey"
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When you train for sprints for example, you would run a lets say 100m, rest 3-5min and repeat, the reason, in the 100m dash your body is usually into the ATP/CP energy systems, since you use ATP quickly, it takes at least that long to regenerate the ATP, ATP usually has only about a 30sec capacity.
So, if you do a high rep set of crunches to the point where you have lactic acid buildup and have to stop, you should rest for 5 min before doing another set?
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lol @ "Sean Rey"
Sean Gay
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I think it's good, but only for about a 6-8 week periodization, I don't know how long (weeks wise) he runs these types of workouts for, but lets take a quick look....
3 rounds of:
--smith machine squats
--bench squats
--squats
--barbell lunges
--lunges to next machine
--smith machine squats w/ feet way out in front
--front squats
--leg presses w/ toes out to get hams and inner thighs
--leg extensions
--leg presses #2
--barbell lunges #2
--sissy squats on hack squat machine
--half-rep (all the way down, half way up) hack squats
--squats
--1 leg at a time lunges (10 reps one leg, then switch legs) on smith machine
--hack squats on machine #2
--leg presses #3
Then we got off easy on the last part:
--hack squats - non-stop: 1 rep w/ 6 plates (per side), 2 reps 5 plates, 3 reps 4 plates, 4 reps 3 plates, 5 reps 2 plates, 6 reps 1 plate, 10 reps sissy squats
--50 reps leg presses
--50 reps leg extensions
Here you have 20 different "quad" exercises, overkill if you are trying to put on size, great if you want to condition and get harder, the downside is when your training on this method, you use two of the three energy systems up very quickly (ATP/CP and Glycolitic) and then go into the aerobic system..........[b]but this is where Milos' drink comes in, it quickly replaces the ATP that you use during the workout[/b], but all in all........it's an aerobic training method to 'Wow" his clients, they get a great workout, they think he's a training God and they're happy )even if it's for a while. (Lets also not forget what most of Milos' clients are or might be on)!
During the football season, I will run a "power" circuit for my athletes using about 12 different power exercises (full body), the goal is to help keep them injury free, maintain the strength we built in the offseason, keep there function and conditioning.
are you seriously a personal trainer?
you actually believe that you can quickly replace all the atp you use during a workout with a drink???
tell me coach, were you born this stupid or did you have to take lessons? ::)
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are you seriously a personal trainer?
you actually believe that you can quickly replace all the atp you use during a workout with a drink???
tell me coach, were you born this stupid or did you have to take lessons? ::)
dave palumbo also said its bullshit, something like only if the workout lasted 6 hours long etc. could it have a benefit.
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Hey Mike, how's the training going? Any progress on bringing up the quads from the front?
Arms and chest look good (superior to 99% of posters here on getbig) so don't get discouraged by the haters.
Thanks kawaks!...............my knees are telling me im working hard to bring up the quads (killin me!)
later..............Mike
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Thanks kawaks!...............my knees are telling me im working hard to bring up the quads (killin me!)
later..............Mike
legs are a bitch :(
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Yes you can with calcium salt of pytic acid.
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Yes you can with calcium salt of pytic acid.
no too expensive....we use python acid
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Yes you can with calcium salt of pytic acid.
try again. we are talking atp here, not lactic acid buffers.
i will put one disclaimer on my statement.
i am, of course, assuming that we are talking about a workout and not a warm-up. watching wannabes in the gym that's a hell of an assumption.
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legs are a bitch :(
Which is why we should all appreciate Milos. Arvilla juices like a rapist too, so we can understand that it's not 'all drugs' or whatever. Years of smart training and damn good genetics are fuggin important. I think Arvilla looks great too, but should be classier than to bash Milos's physique for christ's sake.
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Arvilla juices like a rapist too,
what the hell does that mean? And regardless of it's meaning...what do you know about how much or little he does?
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Which is why we should all appreciate Milos. Arvilla juices like a rapist too, so we can understand that it's not 'all drugs' or whatever. Years of smart training and damn good genetics are fuggin important.
"Juices like a rapist" LOL!!.......................q uote of the day!
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Which is why we should all appreciate Milos. Arvilla juices like a rapist too, so we can understand that it's not 'all drugs' or whatever. Years of smart training and damn good genetics are fuggin important. I think Arvilla looks great too, but should be classier than to bash Milos's physique for christ's sake.
PS: i can only afford to juice like a peeping tom
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what the hell does that mean? And regardless of it's meaning...what do you know about how much or little he does?
hahaha, exactly, where did he come up with that one?
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PS: i can only afford to juice like a peeping tom
you are a rapist!
LOL
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Which is why we should all appreciate Milos. Arvilla juices like a rapist too, so we can understand that it's not 'all drugs' or whatever. Years of smart training and damn good genetics are fuggin important.
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milos has tremendous quads, but then he always had during his competitive career.
there are not many bbers in the world that have displayed quads as complete as milos'
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milos has tremendous quads, but then he always had during his competitive career.
there are not many bbers in the world that have displayed quads as complete as milos'
Milos is an enigma... :o
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You're right, I don't know what you take, and I don't really mean to say it is/ever was very much, but similarly it seems unnecessary to say mean shit about Milos when the guy looks great and doesn't unprovokedly bash people on here. That is all.
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D.L.5 do you have the chemical structual for the python acid ?
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You're right, I don't know what you take, and I don't really mean to say it is/ever was very much, but similarly it seems unnecessary to say mean shit about Milos when the guy looks great and doesn't unprovokedly bash people on here. That is all.
don't be so harsh on michael, he is a rapist.
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D.L.5 do you have the chemical structual for the python acid ?
This anecdote is hidden in a Safe at Kolloseum Gym Fullerton.
Thank you for your inquiry.
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D.L.5 my question was serious
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D.L.5 my question was serious
Seriously, ask Milos. I only do Promotions. He comes on here but has been busy lately.
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You're right, I don't know what you take, and I don't really mean to say it is/ever was very much, but similarly it seems unnecessary to say mean shit about Milos when the guy looks great and doesn't unprovokedly bash people on here. That is all.
He's not putting him down. He's just saying he lacks "thickness". He's certainly not saying he looks like shit.
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don't be so harsh on michael, he is a rapist.
Na ah >:(. he's a peeping tom. ;D
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Milos is a great bodybuilder,i only stated his physique lacks thickness,everyone has flaws even MR OLYMPIA
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are you seriously a personal trainer?
you actually believe that you can quickly replace all the atp you use during a workout with a drink???
tell me coach, were you born this stupid or did you have to take lessons? ::)
Don't even go there Junior........you'll lose. I guarantee it!!
Just stick to the basics son and you'll get by just fine, beside's, no, that isn't the only reason for the "drink"!!
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Maybe his shake healed his heart?
hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaa
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Don't even go there Junior........you'll lose. I guarantee it!!
Just stick to the basics son and you'll get by just fine, beside's, no, that isn't the only reason for the "drink"!!
let's go there you geriatric fuck.
i want you to explain to me just how you can reimburse atp levels quickly post workout?
try coming up with something you haven't removed from your rectum.
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let's go there you geriatric fuck.
i want you to explain to me just how you can reimburse atp levels quickly post workout?
try coming up with something you haven't removed from your rectum.
Did I say "post workout"?? I didn't now did I?
With Milos' workout you hit ATP levels within 2 mins or less, this workout that I posted CLEARLY lasts more that 2 minutes during just the first round of this particular workout. Learn to interperate what I say before you come off as if you know what the fuck you're talking about!!
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Did I say "post workout"?? I didn't now did I?
With Milos' workout you hit ATP levels within 2 mins or less, this workout that I posted CLEARLY lasts more that 2 minutes during just the first round of this particular workout. Learn to interperate what I say before you come off as if you know what the fuck you're talking about!!
i thought i told you to come up with something that didn't pre exist in your rectum.
exactly wtf are you talking about and how has it got anything to do with milos' drink replacing atp levels quickly?
you can't explain because you are full of shit and gerbals.
please don't tell anyone you're a personal trainer anymore. you could be charged with fraud.
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Learn to interperate what I say before you come off as if you know what the fuck you're talking about!!
Coach, you are an illiterate fuck ::), what the hell are you trying to say mush-mouth ?
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This information if not for comedians
Phytic acid contains a large number of phosphate groups. These phosphate groups are similar to those contaid in adenosine triphosphate (ATP). Energy is generated when adenosine triphosphate gets converted to adenosine diphosphate(ADP). This energy is then available to the muscle fiber.
The chemical formula it is very interesting, the phytic acid molecule looks like a flat six-sided sheet of carbon atoms (a hexagon) with large phosphate and calcium ions above an below the hexagon plane of carbon atoms. This arrangement of atoms makes it easy/energetically feasible to clip off one or more of the phosphate groups or to lose a calcium ion, it makes possible for this molecule to supply phosphorous atoms in just the right arrangements (PHOSPHATE GROUPS) to be easily assimilated by the chemical mechanisms within the human body that provide energy to muscle contractions.
The bottom line yes it is possible to prevent to much lactic acid build up during giant sets. And my self totally agre with Milos`s concept ( to take aminos during training)
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This information if not for comedians
Phytic acid contains a large number of phosphate groups. These phosphate groups are similar to those contaid in adenosine triphosphate (ATP). Energy is generated when adenosine triphosphate gets converted to adenosine diphosphate(ADP). This energy is then available to the muscle fiber.
The chemical formula it is very interesting, the phytic acid molecule looks like a flat six-sided sheet of carbon atoms (a hexagon) with large phosphate and calcium ions above an below the hexagon plane of carbon atoms. This arrangement of atoms makes it easy/energetically feasible to clip off one or more of the phosphate groups or to lose a calcium ion, it makes possible for this molecule to supply phosphorous atoms in just the right arrangements (PHOSPHATE GROUPS) to be easily assimilated by the chemical mechanisms within the human body that provide energy to muscle contractions.
The bottom line yes it is possible to prevent to much lactic acid build up during giant sets. And my self totally agre with Milos`s concept ( to take aminos during training)
So what does phytic acid have to do with the aminos and carbs in Milos' drink? Is phytic acid formed from aminos and carbs? Seriously, I don't know so this is a serious question.
I do recall some supplement company selling phytic acid.
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Don't even go there Junior........you'll lose. I guarantee it!!
Just stick to the basics son and you'll get by just fine, beside's, no, that isn't the only reason for the "drink"!!
So why don't you just explain by what mechanism Milos' drinks replace ATP? That's an easy way to settle a debate instead of grandstanding like you do here.
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I didn`t say that Milos`s products helps ATP , Phytis acid it doz, Milos`s product prevent muscle brakedown.
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He's not putting him down. He's just saying he lacks "thickness". He's certainly not saying he looks like shit.
really?
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
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I'm always flattered when people call me an "ironing board w abs."
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I'm always flattered when people call me an "ironing board w abs."
don'tcha? :D
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really?
And you called me "an ironing board without abs"
what's your point?
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Here is the chemical formula for phytic acid, C6H6[OPO(OH)2]6 Reference :Mukhamsdova,H.S.,S.T.Akramov,Chem.Nat.comp.,1977(in Russian)
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And you called me "an ironing board without abs"
what's your point?
My point? I thought it was pretty evident in the above post.
Laura said "He's not putting him down". But you said "his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs". Seems like a put down to me...no?
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My point? I thought it was pretty evident in the above post.
Laura said "He's not putting him down". But you said "his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs". Seems like a put down to me...no?
It's my birthday today/im trying to have a nice day,don't break my balls..................
so i put Milo's down (according to you),and you put me down.................... ..
let's move on shall we
Mike
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
::)
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It's my birthday today/im trying to have a nice day,don't break my balls..................
so i put Milo's down (according to you),and you put me down.................... ..
let's move on shall we
Mike
happy b'day!
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happy b'day!
Thanks!!!!!
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Then why would he want his clients to have that look, the best physiques were built without insulin!!
I second this.
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It's my birthday today/im trying to have a nice day,don't break my balls..................
so i put Milo's down (according to you),and you put me down.................... ..
let's move on shall we
Mike
Ha ha...come on Mike. You know how I am. Half the time I don't even look at the name of who I'm messing with. Happy b-day you old fart. Go slam a handful of Advil and blast those quads into oblivion :P
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Here more references for Phytic acid
AMOSOV,NM,BEDET,J.L.(1984).Physical activity and heart.Kiev,Zdrovya.
AFAR.J.(1975),Dippings,biostimulant and sport.S.,Med. I Fizk.
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Ha ha...come on Mike. You know how I am. Half the time I don't even look at the name of who I'm messing with. Happy b-day you old fart. Go slam a handful of Advil and blast those quads into oblivion :P
True.................... .(it's been years now we have been having our "discussions" or "debates")
i respect your opinion and you,thanks for the birthday wishes
(PS: i prefer percocet before a good quad workout!)
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True.....................(it's been years now we have been having our "discussions" or "debates")
i respect your opinion and you,thanks for the birthday wishes
(PS: i prefer percocet before a good quad workout!)
wish i had some now...off to train legs.
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Yes you can with calcium salt of pytic acid.
this is your original statement stupid.
there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that ingesting pytic acid and calcium salt will regenerate atp stores within the muscle quickly.
what you are talking about is a lactic acid buffer and it would be much simpler to ingest bicarb soda, which has been used for over 20 years by athletes so quit trying to sound intelligent stupid.
you believe milos' drink 'prevents muscle breakdown' cool. people need to get rich and idiots like you need to make that happen so it's all good. it's my belief athat stupid people should have to give money to smarter people anyway. it's called 'survival of the fittest'. ;)
arvilla, YOU calling MILOS an 'ironing board with abs' has got to be up there your most delusional and hypocritical statements ever. congratulations. :D
let me see, if milos is an ironing board with abs, that must mean you're a streak of pelican shit with no abs right? :)
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I didn`t say that Milos`s products helps ATP , Phytis acid it doz, Milos`s product prevent muscle brakedown.
OK, so this has really nothing to do with Milos or his drinks. Not relevant to the discussion.
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Here more references for Phytic acid
AMOSOV,NM,BEDET,J.L.(1984).Physical activity and heart.Kiev,Zdrovya.
AFAR.J.(1975),Dippings,biostimulant and sport.S.,Med. I Fizk.
Yeah, now I remember seeing the abstract reference, it was Sopharma (makers of Tribestan) selling this shit. Their research also "showed" Tribestan to raise test, which it doesn't.
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OK, so this has really nothing to do with Milos or his drinks. Not relevant to the discussion.
that's right.
he just wanted use to know he knew some chemistry is all.
maybe he's got his finals coming up.
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BEAST8692
That is correct regarding the sodium bicarbonate, sodium bicarbonate is an alkaline salt NaHCO3 and it doz neutralize acidity.
And had been used for more than 60 years not 20 years as a performance enhancer for sprinters by countring build up of lactate through induced metabolic alkaloids.
Looks like you are taking bicarbonate, my question how many minutes takes to enter to your blood stream ? if the bicarbonate has a such of quick effect why you don't accept the theory of taking aminos or phytic acid on empty stomach having the same quick absorption.
For ATP production you need a mixture of calcium, manganese and magnesium salt and phosphates. Phytic acid loosely describes a group of molecules know as organic phosphates that are a mixture of calcum, manganese and magnesium salt of inositol hexaphosphoric acid. Phytic acid is coveted to the easily absorbed molecule myo-inositol. As you see this is not a lactic acid buffer.
I don't have to believe Milos, because I know for sure that it is beneficial to take aminos during and after workouts on empty stomach, I started taking essential aminos back in the 1984.
Do you need help with you workouts ?
BTW why you so angry with Milos.
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VAN Bilderass,
Regarding Milos`s drink, are you taking Creatine Monohydrare during your workout if yes than how you explain the the apportion, BTW essential aminos are much smaller molecules than the Creatine Monohydrate molecules.
Milos has theoretically and most importantly practically prove.
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
pot calling the kettle... :)
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BEAST8692
That is correct regarding the sodium bicarbonate, sodium bicarbonate is an alkaline salt NaHCO3 and it doz neutralize acidity.
And had been used for more than 60 years not 20 years as a performance enhancer for sprinters by countring build up of lactate through induced metabolic alkaloids.
Looks like you are taking bicarbonate, my question how many minutes takes to enter to your blood stream ? if the bicarbonate has a such of quick effect why you don't accept the theory of taking aminos or phytic acid on empty stomach having the same quick absorption.
For ATP production you need a mixture of calcium, manganese and magnesium salt and phosphates. Phytic acid loosely describes a group of molecules know as organic phosphates that are a mixture of calcum, manganese and magnesium salt of inositol hexaphosphoric acid. Phytic acid is coveted to the easily absorbed molecule myo-inositol. As you see this is not a lactic acid buffer.
I don't have to believe Milos, because I know for sure that it is beneficial to take aminos during and after workouts on empty stomach, I started taking essential aminos back in the 1984.
Do you need help with you workouts ?
BTW why you so angry with Milos.
Be careful, instead of having an intelligent debate with this clown, he'll just call you an idiot or some other name and tell you you're wrong, thats why I quit responding to him!!
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The Coach,
Thank you.
I am a old timer, no body from this board will and can`t make me angry. I don`t take them seriously.
I was hoping that some people from this board are serious.
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It's my birthday today/im trying to have a nice day,don't break my balls..................
so i put Milo's down (according to you),and you put me down.................... ..
let's move on shall we
Mike
happy birthday Mike !
I just send you a nice gift by the mail
a huge box of viagra pills, you will need it soon old man ;D
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Be careful, instead of having an intelligent debate with this clown, he'll just call you an idiot or some other name and tell you you're wrong, thats why I quit responding to him!!
Intelligent debate? What have contributed to the discussion except shit? I asked you a serious question earlier - explain your position.
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VAN Bilderass,
Regarding Milos`s drink, are you taking Creatine Monohydrare during your workout if yes than how you explain the the apportion, BTW essential aminos are much smaller molecules than the Creatine Monohydrate molecules.
Milos has theoretically and most importantly practically prove.
OK, I guess you are saying that the aminos will be absorbed quickly. Sure, no question about that, no one is doubting that. The problem with Milos' theory is that he would have a hard time proving his drinks are anymore effective (for muscle growth) than, say, having a whey+maltodextrin shake before and after workouts.
He has made a lot of claims regarding his drinks, which he says are supported by research. Not quite so. It's mostly speculation. Some of the things he says are clearly wrong as well. That's fine but promote it for what it is - hypothetically better than regular food/protein shakes.
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happy birthday Mike !
I just send you a nice gift by the mail
a huge box of viagra pills, you will need it soon old man ;D
Damm..................i need those things now!!!
(ps: thanks Stavios for the birthday wishes!)
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Van Bilderes,
Milos is talking about during the workout with out the whey protein, so your body don`t go in catabolic stage and to prevent muscle brakedown. Whey protein oxidates Leucine so I assume that way he suggest that don`t take the essential aminos whit the Whey. I don`t remember Milos saying that his drinks are better than food, of course you can get big with out his drink, but will take longer. I can`t make comments for Milos, I do know that taking essential aminos during physical exercise it works.
Remember to feel the effect you need to train very very hard with out aminos than next time train very very hard with the aminos, and you will know what I am talking about.
I hope this helps.
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I thought I was him ???
you are his sack stench
hope this helps
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Van Bilderes,
Milos is talking about during the workout with out the whey protein, so your body don`t go in catabolic stage and to prevent muscle brakedown. Whey protein oxidates Leucine so I assume that way he suggest that don`t take the essential aminos whit the Whey. I don`t remember Milos saying that his drinks are better than food, of course you can get big with out his drink, but will take longer. I can`t make comments for Milos, I do know that taking essential aminos during physical exercise it works.
Remember to feel the effect you need to train very very hard with out aminos than next time train very very hard with the aminos, and you will know what I am talking about.
I hope this helps.
Yes yes, I know his reasoning. Here's the thing: simple whey protein already contains high amounts of BCAAs of which Leucine is one of course. The other aminos in the whey don't hinder the essential aminos from increasing protein synthesis nor do they cause muscle breakdown or Leucine oxidation.
I could go on with this topic, but the bottom line is that Milos has a theory that is shaky at best.
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Van Bildereass,
I will post more info tomorrow, I workout twice per day so I need to rest.
In advance Whey protein it will make your body produce even more lactic acid.
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you are his sack stench
hope this helps
okay
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Be careful, instead of having an intelligent debate with this clown, he'll just call you an idiot or some other name and tell you you're wrong, thats why I quit responding to him!!
lol
coach, you're not fooling anyone. if you could prove me wrong you would have done it by now. you can't, i know you can't so we'll just file your this one with your 535lb raw bench at 180lbs claim. of course if the issue was with me (oldest excuse in the book) why don't you answer Van Bilderass? ;)
anyone that pays you a cent for personal training is being defrauded. hope this helps.
biceps, you said that the chemicals could restore atp stores quickly after exhausting them. again, lots of nice theory but nothing in the way of evidence. that's because they won't in reality. if they did we would have the best natural ped ever.
lactic acid buffers are only buffers, they won't restore anything. i have used them in competition and training and i have noticed some benefit but they can also give you BAD stomach cramps and the runs.
you're right about too much protein exascerbating the lactic burn, which is another reason why a very high protein bber diet is a bad idea in sports requiring lactic clearance. also another reason why milos' theories on natural supplementation don't hold water in the real world of athletic competition.
btw, i am not angry at milos at all. he is far more qualified than me on the subject of bbing, but if this board is good for anything, it's good for calling bs and i just want people to think first before they accept bs claims from supplement companies as fact. if i can save just one person from throwing $210 U.S down the toilet then i can sleep well. :D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164172.0;attach=189256;image)
Look at that picture and tell me pro bodybuilding isn't pretty gay. Guys who drug themselves up, then hop on a stage to impress other males. Oh brother. ::)
All joking aside, your nuts will thank you for not ingesting many steroids. I'd be surprised if any of these guys won't need test shots the rest of their lives. Honestly, not worth the trade off.
Good legs though Milos...haha
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if i can save just one person from throwing $210 U.S down the toilet then i can sleep well. :D
that money would be better spent on Bethany Howlett
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Look at that picture and tell me pro bodybuilding isn't pretty gay. Guys who drug themselves up, then hop on a stage to impress other males. Oh brother. ::)
All joking aside, your nuts will thank you for not ingesting many steroids. I'd be surprised if any of these guys won't need test shots the rest of their lives. Honestly, not worth the trade off.
Good legs though Milos...haha
hehe, one of your better posts, croatch. seems like you find your old form again after watching the old vids. ;)
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hehe, one of your better posts, croatch. seems like you find your old form again after watching the old vids. Wink
Yeah, for sure. I was off my regular 10 anti gear posts per day average. I need to start stepping it up.
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Yeah, for sure. I was off my regular 10 anti gear posts per day average. I need to start stepping it up.
good idea.
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Milos is in better shape than his clients....why? He uses less insulin, proof if you cut out or use less, you can be ripped, instead of the unstraiated people you see now!
Really?
What would you think IF I told you - I only use insulin?
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Really?
What would you think IF I told you - I only use insulin?
I would say, you are diabetic ;D
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Really?
What would you think IF I told you - I only use insulin?
i would say, 'YOU ARE THE MIND'
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Really?
What would you think IF I told you - I only use insulin?
slin or your drink?
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When Milos was next to Ronnie in the 1999 English Grand Prix, he did look much smaller, but he only lacked thickness compared to the biggest competitors.
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprixdvd.html
Will he be competing anytime soon? It looks like he's juicing like a pro so he may as well be competing.
1999 English GP?
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1999 English GP?
Ha ha Loser.Then, Why you didnt win O or you werent in the top 5? Politics? ;D
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I would say, you are diabetic ;D
Really?
Just because I use insulin - so I wouldn't become diabetic taking ALL THE CARBS every day?
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1999 English GP?
And still you look much smaller than these great 2.
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slin or your drink?
My drink(s) [3 drinks - before-during-after] - every time I train /except on the LEGS day - when I don't take during...for obvious reasons.../
Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...
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Ha ha Loser.Then, Why you didnt win O or you werent in the top 5? Politics? ;D
Ha, ha Fatso...I didn't win O yet...I am not in a hurry...I have some time...
Politics?
NO WAY - there is no politics in bodybuilding! ;D
Loser ;D ;D ;D you say?
I really hate to lose - looking like that...
I only hope I can look like you or be "winner" like yourself - Lardass... :'( :'( :'( Maybe one day...
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Ha, ha Fatso...I didn't win O yet...I am not in a hurry...I have some time...
Politics?
NO WAY - there is no politics in bodybuilding! ;D
Loser ;D ;D ;D you say?
I really hate to lose - looking like that...
I only hope I can look like you or be "winner" like yourself - Lardass... :'( :'( :'( Maybe one day...
I am not fat anymore. I have abs and thigh separation with more than 200lbs with BEING NATURAL.
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Ha, ha Fatso...I didn't win O yet...I am not in a hurry...I have some time...
Politics?
NO WAY - there is no politics in bodybuilding! ;D
Loser ;D ;D ;D you say?
I really hate to lose - looking like that...
I only hope I can look like you or be "winner" like yourself - Lardass... :'( :'( :'( Maybe one day...
Better be hurry. You look much much older than before. Check out your hair. They begin to turn white :o
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I am not fat anymore. I have abs and thigh separation with more than 200lbs with BEING NATURAL.
But - off course ::)
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But - off course ::)
As I told to Sarcasm. I will post my mandatorys soon. ;)
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Better be hurry. You look much much older than before. Check out your hair. They begin to turn white :o
Oh my God...begin to turn white??? :o :o :o
My mom was snow-white when she was 30...I guess I am luckier...but wait - I do have a hair?
Better hurry?
Why?
Vince came back in his best ever - when he turned 50...Francis Benfato is at his all time best at 49...
Albert Beckless won Niagara Falls - when he was 61 (I beat him week earlier - in my pro debut... ::))...and I am only having fun...
Difference is - I love bodybuilding...and I love training...Can't say I love dieting - but for some reason - I don't really have to diet - and never really did (maybe that's the reason I was able to compete 110 times so far...72 IFBB pro shows...?)
I am coming back next year to mess things up in the IFBB - and be first (OK - I take that back...not really first one...) Mr. Olympia with NOT SO GREAT ARMS...
My 15 inch "pythons" will be 16 inches by the time I am 50 years old - I promise...
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As I told to Sarcasm. I will post my mandatorys soon. ;)
Better hurry...I am getting old... ;)
How soon? As soon as someone photoshops your photos?
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Really?
What would you think IF I told you - I only use insulin?
Bullshit!!! Absolute, deluded, monstrous bullshit.
If, by some quirk of the universe that is actually true, you should start using steroids. You already look better than most of your students [apart from Wolf], so slam in some test and prepare for the Olympia!
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Better hurry...I am getting old... ;)
How soon? As soon as someone photoshops your photos?
Before Santa Susana.
I am not living a BBing life only. So I dont take pics of myself many days like you. If you think its photoshop,come to Santa susana like last year....Oh, I forgot you are suspended :-X
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Oh my God...begin to turn white??? :o :o :o
My mom was snow-white when she was 30...I guess I am luckier...but wait - I do have a hair?
Better hurry?
Why?
Vince came back in his best ever - when he turned 50...Francis Benfato is at his all time best at 49...
Albert Beckless won Niagara Falls - when he was 61 (I beat him week earlier - in my pro debut... ::))...and I am only having fun...
Difference is - I love bodybuilding...and I love training...Can't say I love dieting - but for some reason - I don't really have to diet - and never really did (maybe that's the reason I was able to compete 110 times so far...72 IFBB pro shows...?)
I am coming back next year to mess things up in the IFBB - and be first (OK - I take that back...not really first one...) Mr. Olympia with NOT SO GREAT ARMS...
My 15 inch "pythons" will be 16 inches by the time I am 50 years old - I promise...
Ok ok. I want you to be a O(Seriously).
Its a PROMISE ,isnt it?
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My 15 inch "pythons" will be 16 inches by the time I am 50 years old - I promise...
I call Bullshit on this one. Keep dreaming 8)
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My drink(s) [3 drinks - before-during-after] - every time I train /except on the LEGS day - when I don't take during...for obvious reasons.../
Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...
I love the honesty regarding use.
to kyomu...be real dog, u are talking to Milos Sarcev one of the greats. U are in no position to diss his physique.
MILOS, WILL U TAKE PHOTO WITH ME IN AUS, TO POST ON GETBIG AND PROMOTE THE NEW PRODUCT LINES? I THINK THIS WILL GO DOWN IN GETBIG HISTORY.
I LOVE THE OIL!
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"SNAKE OIL FOREVER!"
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Bullshit!!! Absolute, deluded, monstrous bullshit.
If, by some quirk of the universe that is actually true, you should start using steroids. You already look better than most of your students [apart from Wolf], so slam in some test and prepare for the Olympia!
You just gave me - idea...You also think I should prepare for the O?
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You just gave me - idea...You also think I should prepare for the O?
will u do aus show.
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Ok ok. I want you to be a O(Seriously).
Its a PROMISE ,isnt it?
Are you stupid?
Oh, I guess - I shouldn't ask the obvious...
I promised to be Mr. O? ???
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will u do aus show.
100% FOR SURE.
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100% FOR SURE.
will you be in Montreal in 3 weeks?
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I love the honesty regarding use.
to kyomu...be real dog, u are talking to Milos Sarcev one of the greats. U are in no position to diss his physique.
MILOS, WILL U TAKE PHOTO WITH ME IN AUS, TO POST ON GETBIG AND PROMOTE THE NEW PRODUCT LINES? I THINK THIS WILL GO DOWN IN GETBIG HISTORY.
I LOVE THE OIL!
Off course I will...
Problem is - would you say who you are when you ask me for the photo?
If you do - photo will make the history ;)...
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will you be in Montreal in 3 weeks?
More than likely...
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You just gave me - idea...You also think I should prepare for the O?
DEFINATELY! Even your haters, [except maybe Shawn], want to see you onstage. I honestly don't think Manion would let you win the Olympia, no matter how you looked, but even a Milos at 50% is better than the disgusting, shapeless, needle freaks of today.
Heres my Olympia top 5:
1] Wolf [sorry Milos, but i think he's the best since Dorian 93]
2] Milos
3] Rockel
4] Martinez
4] Priest
Not a gut in sight!
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I am not fat anymore. I have abs and thigh separation with more than 200lbs with BEING NATURAL.
Or anyless...
You also have a kidney and a spine...Maybe even a brain..?
Well, on the second thought - forget about the brain...and let's say - you have abs, kidney and a spine - somewhere deep under that lard...
And - I'll take the doping test with you...and let's see who will pass ;).
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Off course I will...
Problem is - would you say who you are when you ask me for the photo?
If you do - photo will make the history ;)...
as long as u don't knock me out with a punch to the face ;) ;D
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DEFINATELY! Even your haters, [except maybe Shawn], want to see you onstage. I honestly don't think Manion would let you win the Olympia, no matter how you looked, but even a Milos at 50% is better than the disgusting, shapeless, needle freaks of today.
Heres my Olympia top 5:
1] Wolf [sorry Milos, but i think he's the best since Dorian 93]
2] Milos
3] Rockel
4] Martinez
4] Priest
Not a gut in sight!
Dude, Milos may have some pleasing lines but there's no way he's better (or has been) than guys like Victor or Jay or Ronnie. No offense Milos, but to me bodybuilding's about muscularity, not aesthetics so much although that doesn't mean 'No aesthetics' if you know what I mean
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as long as u don't knock me out with a punch to the face ;) ;D
I promise I won't...I might kick you in the face (by accident ;D) but certainly wouldn't punch you...Why would I do that?
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Dude, Milos may have some pleasing lines but there's no way he's better (or has been) than guys like Victor or Jay or Ronnie. No offense Milos, but to me bodybuilding's about muscularity, not aesthetics so much although that doesn't mean 'No aesthetics' if you know what I mean
Jay manage to beat me once (in 4 outings) ;D
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I call Bullshit on this one. Keep dreaming 8)
I bet you - a dollar?
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I promise I won't...I might kick you in the face (by accident ;D) but certainly wouldn't punch you...Why would I do that?
LOL, maybe i promoted too aggressively ;D.
also, why are there no more kolloseum tank tops? i tried to buy one but none in store.
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Jay manage to beat me once (in 4 outings) ;D
I'm not contesting your beating some names dude. I'm talking about you winning the Mr Olympia. You simply get out muscled by the guys I mentioned. Again, I'm not trying to provoke you - just stating my opinion
I bet you - a dollar?
You sound like a big risk taker to me ;)
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Or anyless...
You also have a kidney and a spine...Maybe even a brain..?
Well, on the second thought - forget about the brain...and let's say - you have abs, kidney and a spine - somewhere deep under that lard...
And - I'll take the doping test with you...and let's see who will pass ;).
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah,wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will you take doping test? Wahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!!
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And still you look much smaller than these great 2.
Really?
I was considerably heavier than Kev...and Flex at that show...and only managed to beat Nasser (5th at the O week earlier..with Jay placing 15th...) and Markus...
I guess I had no size... ::)
Wonder why did I get that comparison with Kev and Ronnie (two guys I managed to beat in my pro career)...
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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah,wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will you take doping test? Wahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!!
Will you???? Wahahahahhahahahahahahah ahahahahah?
I'll bet you I'll pass... ;)
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I am coming back next year to mess things up in the IFBB - and be first (OK - I take that back...not really first one...) Mr. Olympia with NOT SO GREAT ARMS...
My 15 inch "pythons" will be 16 inches by the time I am 50 years old - I promise...
Then what do you mean this?
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Really?
I was considerably heavier than Kev...and Flex at that show...and only managed to beat Nasser (5th at the O week earlier..with Jay placing 15th...) and Markus...
I guess I had no size... ::)
Wonder why did I get that comparison with Kev and Ronnie (two guys I managed to beat in my pro career)...
I want to see double ni shot also. Can you post it?Mr synthole arm? ;)
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I want to see double ni shot also. Can you post it?Mr synthole arm? ;)
Do u guys have a history? ur goin at it lol
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Then what do you mean this?
Did you read last sentence?
Or - you can't keep focus that long?
I promise I'll have 16 inch pythons by the time you get down to 16% body fat...in 7 years from now (by the time I am 50...or you are 60...or when hell freezes over...?)
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Do u guys have a history? ur goin at it lol
Yeah. Mad man vs Psychiatrist
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I guess I had no size... ::)
You have OK size although not in a balanced way. Meaning your arms are subpar in comparison to your legs. Plus I think you ought to look a lot more muscular - thickness and density that you get only from hard heavy training with free weights on the basics.
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LOL, maybe i promoted too aggressively ;D.
also, why are there no more kolloseum tank tops? i tried to buy one but none in store.
We have tons...
I'll give you one for free - after I kick you in the face... ;D...
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Did you read last sentence?
Or - you can't keep focus that long?
I promise I'll have 16 inch pythons by the time you get down to 16% body fat...in 7 years from now (by the time I am 50...or you are 60...or when hell freezes over...?)
My bodyfat is under 16% now. Your arms are more than 16inchs.
Are you that crazy though? Better see a doctor seriously.
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Yeah. Mad man vs Psychiatrist
in those photos milos looks great, i never saw photos of him so big.
i would love to see that physique win an Olympia, rather than blocky blobby puddles of poop.
to Milos....I look forward to seeing u at the AUSSIE SHOW! THIS WILL BE FUN ;D ;D ;D ;D
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We have tons...
I'll give you one for free - after I kick you in the face... ;D...
the mind games have begun!
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Yeah. Mad man vs Psychiatrist
DL 5 is a mad man?
You should have told me that before...
DL...I meant kiss you in the face...not kick...
U no (you know) - I speak no englease...like that fat sushi guy...kiomi...no -that was my cat's name - Kyomu or kimono...what's the differencia anyway?
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Milos, I will bring security with me just in case ;D ;D
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My bodyfat is under 16% now. Your arms are more than 16inchs.
Are you that crazy though? Better see a doctor seriously.
Bodyfat on your forehead doesn't count sushi boy...
I am talking about overall bodyfat...
As far as my arms - I am thinking forearms...Bozo.. ;D
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Did you read last sentence?
Or - you can't keep focus that long?
I promise I'll have 16 inch pythons by the time you get down to 16% body fat...in 7 years from now (by the time I am 50...or you are 60...or when hell freezes over...?)
i take you haven't seen kyomu's pics?
He looks pretty good, Milos, all kidding aside.
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Milos, I will bring security with me just in case ;D ;D
Your girlfriend?
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Bodyfat on your forehead doesn't count sushi boy...
I am talking about overall bodyfat...
As far as my arms - I am thinking forearms...Bozo.. ;D
but kyomo it is not clever to compare physiques with milos...the result is a loss
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Yeah, for sure. I was off my regular 10 anti gear posts per day average. I need to start stepping it up.
FYI, get on some gear you look like shit. ;D
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i take you haven't seen kyomu's pics?
He looks pretty good, Milos, all kidding aside.
Yeah. He saw 1995 version and 3month ago fat version.
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Your girlfriend?
No, I dont want u to pick her up, i will leave her home ;D
I will bring LUKE WOOD ;D just joking....
i will get a custom made top for the event! believe me, this will make u laugh when u read it.
Be prepared! 'THE MINDS' WILL MEET!
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i take you haven't seen kyomu's pics?
He looks pretty good, Milos, all kidding aside.
Boyfriends comments don't count Donkey...
What's next?
His mom will tell us he is pretty?
OK THAN...he is not really that obese...he is just slightly obese, out of shape and ...ugly...I guess you can say: "he looks pretty good"...
Now - this is what I am calling pretty good: ;)
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Bodyfat on your forehead doesn't count sushi boy...
I am talking about overall bodyfat...
As far as my arms - I am thinking forearms...Bozo.. ;D
Hey your forearm is smaller than 16inchs? Tooooo small to make a splash at IFBB Pro stage now a day :-[
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but kyomo it is not clever to compare physiques with milos...the result is a loss
You dont know anything about us.
Ask before you talk.
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You dont know anything about us.
Ask before you talk.
I will ask later
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No, I dont want u to pick her up, i will leave her home ;D
I will bring LUKE WOOD ;D just joking....
i will get a custom made top for the event! believe me, this will make u laugh when u read it.
Be prepared! 'THE MINDS' WILL MEET!
THE MIND (without S) will meet MEAT(head) - and kick him in his meaty head wearing "snake oil" tank top...
Well, when you make one - make another in 2XL - red color and pick some nice letters....for me.
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Boyfriends comments don't count Donkey...
What's next?
His mom will tell us he is pretty?
OK THAN...he is not really that obese...he is just slightly obese, out of shape and ...ugly...I guess you can say: "he looks pretty good"...
Now - this is what I am calling pretty good: ;)
Ugly? None of judges,friend and enemy(Except you) criticized that my physic is ugly.
To the contrary,they said"You have very good proportion but you are not dry to the bone...".
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THE MIND (without S) will meet MEAT(head) - and kick him in his meaty head wearing "snake oil" tank top...
Well, when you make one - make another in 2XL - red color and pick some nice letters....for me.
yes. but remember, assault is illegal in Australia.
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Yeah. He saw 1995 version and 3month ago fat version.
True - "bible version" and "donought version"...I am sure you look so much better now... ::)
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Boyfriends comments don't count Donkey...
What's next?
His mom will tell us he is pretty?
OK THAN...he is not really that obese...he is just slightly obese, out of shape and ...ugly...I guess you can say: "he looks pretty good"...
Now - this is what I am calling pretty good: ;)
relax, tiger it's only the internet. i wonder what's gotten into you getting all agitated and stuff. ::) ::) ;D ;D
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True - "bible version" and "donought version"...I am sure you look so much better now... ::)
Then why you didnt invite me this summer?
You are the person who espcape to see the truth.
Or Are you afraid of doping test? :-X
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Ugly? None of judges,friend and enemy(Except you) criticized that my physic is ugly.
To the contrary,they said"You have very good proportion but you are not dry to the bone...".
Really ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I was talking about your face Bozo...
Physique is not ugly...only undeveloped, fat and muscle-free....
Thank God you have......well.......... ........................ ........................ ........................ ..............Hmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...wel l....................... ........................ ........................ ........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ ........................ forget Thank God you have...I was saying: THANK GOD!
Thank you God - indeed (for www.getbig.com ;D) -where could I find so much fun but here?
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yes. but remember, assault is illegal in Australia.
It is going to be an ACCIDENT...didn't you read that before?
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Really ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I was talking about your face Bozo...
Physique is not ugly...only undeveloped, fat and muscle-free....
Thank God you have......well.......... ........................ ........................ ........................ ..............Hmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...wel l....................... ........................ ........................ ........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ ........................ forget Thank God you have...I was saying: THANK GOD!
Thank you God - indeed (for www.getbig.com ;D) -where could I find so much fun but here?
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Really ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I was talking about your face Bozo...
Physique is not ugly...only undeveloped, fat and muscle-free....
Thank God you have......well.......... ........................ ........................ ........................ ..............Hmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...wel l....................... ........................ ........................ ........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ ........................ forget Thank God you have...I was saying: THANK GOD!
Thank you God - indeed (for www.getbig.com ;D) -where could I find so much fun but here?
Face? Hohohoho. I was in two model agency when i was 22years old.And I was invited couple of "Mr." contest in Barcelona.
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relax, tiger it's only the internet. i wonder what's gotten into you getting all agitated and stuff. ::) ::) ;D ;D
Is agitated another word for fun?
Speak no english - remember?
Your boyfriend good?
Sushi TARO (fat tuna) good?
Kimono - loose fat yet?
Arigato daimasta...?
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It is going to be an ACCIDENT...didn't you read that before?
you're crazy....i dont think im going to show ;D ;D :o :o
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Is agitated another word for fun?
Speak no english - remember?
Your boyfriend good?
Sushi TARO (fat tuna) good?
Kimono - loose fat yet?
Arigato daimasta...?
You have been in Japan several times and even you cant say Arigato Gozaimasita? :-[
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Face? Hohohoho. I was in two model agency when i was 22years old.And I was invited couple of "Mr." contest in Barcelona.
What happened when you turned 23?
Cinderella disappeared?
Here comes Sushi Boy....
Let's see:
Mr. Ugly 2000 and Mr. Fatso 2002?
Let me guess - you won both shows?
CONGRATULATIONS...Kimono - you are my idol!
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you're crazy....i dont think im going to show ;D ;D :o :o
Now you get it! Mad maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaan!!! ;D
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Face? Hohohoho. I was in two model agency when i was 22years old.And I was invited couple of "Mr." contest in Barcelona.
Were they one of those modeling agencies that say 'All shapes, sizes and looks considered'? 8)
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What happened when you turned 23?
Cinderella disappeared?
Here comes Sushi Boy....
Let's see:
Mr. Ugly 2000 and Mr. Fatso 2002?
Let me guess - you won both shows?
CONGRATULATIONS...Kimono - you are my idol!
I was organizing big big show that you will never ever organize in your life.
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Now you get it! Mad maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaan!!! ;D
i have visions of MILOS losing his 'mind' and attacking me...
I dont need these dramas at a relaxing event like a bodybuilding show
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i have visions of MILOS losing his 'mind' and attacking me...
I dont need these dramas at a relaxing event like a bodybuilding show
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Be careful! It can happen(Seriously).
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Be careful! It can happen(Seriously).
I BELIEVE YOU!
Milos is befriending me, to then attack me!
also the shirts would cost me much money dont wanna waste the good shirts.
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You have been in Japan several times and even you cant say Arigato Gozaimasita? :-[
Hai - Sushi boy...I was testing you - and you "tested positive" (wonder why?)
As you are thinking only about chohshoku, chu-shoku, yu-shoku and dezahto all day - you fail to realize that domo-arigato mr. robato even birds could sing...
I was hoping you would "correct me" my Japanese teacher...
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Is agitated another word for fun?
Speak no english - remember?
Your boyfriend good?
Sushi TARO (fat tuna) good?
Kimono - loose fat yet?
Arigato daimasta...?
Sprich deutsch mit mir, du Ćevapčići
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Hai - Sushi boy...I was testing you - and you "tested positive" (wonder why?)
As you are thinking only about chohshoku, chu-shoku, yu-shoku and dezahto all day - you fail to realize that domo-arigato mr. robato even birds could sing...
I was hoping you would "correct me" my Japanese teacher...
Wow, Mr. Ražnjići is playing smart ass.
You better get your Visovačka begavica in check, because your spelling is horrible.
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Now you get it! Mad maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaan!!! ;D
YES Kyoto, Kimono...I mean Kyomu...he finally got it.
But, it is OK calling him mad man once...second time is kind of - pushing it...especially if you emphasize that maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa n like you did...
After all - don't mess with mad people...they can make your face even uglier than it is right now...
Well, I take that back...Possibly when mad man (DL5) goes through you - he might correct few things on your face...so - by all means - take the chance...It is at least 50-50... ;)
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i have visions of MILOS losing his 'mind' and attacking me...
I dont need these dramas at a relaxing event like a bodybuilding show
Imagine how simple and peaceful life could be - if you are being NICE for change... :)
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YES Kyoto, Kimono...I mean Kyomu...he finally got it.
But, it is OK calling him mad man once...second time is kind of - pushing it...especially if you emphasize that maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa n like you did...
After all - don't mess with mad people...they can make your face even uglier than it is right now...
Well, I take that back...Possibly when mad man (DL5) goes through you - he might correct few things on your face...so - by all means - take the chance...It is at least 50-50... ;)
Japanese is very difficult language for Pečeno prase, isn't it, Milos?
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YES Kyoto, Kimono...I mean Kyomu...he finally got it.
But, it is OK calling him mad man once...second time is kind of - pushing it...especially if you emphasize that maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa n like you did...
After all - don't mess with mad people...they can make your face even uglier than it is right now...
Well, I take that back...Possibly when mad man (DL5) goes through you - he might correct few things on your face...so - by all means - take the chance...It is at least 50-50... ;)
Then why you didnt invite me this summer?You could punch my face. Are you that enough stupid to notice it? ???
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Imagine how simple and peaceful life could be - if you are being NICE for change... :)
(note to self - avoid MILOS at all costs at the Aussie Grand Prix ;D )
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Wow, Mr. Ražnji?i is playing smart ass.
You better get your Visova?ka begavica in check, because your spelling is horrible.
Japanese spelling or "want to look I don't speak English" spelling?
Your boyfriend (Koockie...Kyoocki...or what's his name anyway? Fat guy you are dating...oh yeah - Kyomu) is always bringing the best out of me...and I guess OUT OF YOU...(yack...on the second thought...).
Is it OK to ask...does he swallow?
I mean - raznjici, cepapcici, Visovacka begovica...etc... ::)
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Hai - Sushi boy...I was testing you - and you "tested positive" (wonder why?)
As you are thinking only about chohshoku, chu-shoku, yu-shoku and dezahto all day - you fail to realize that domo-arigato mr. robato even birds could sing...
I was hoping you would "correct me" my Japanese teacher...
Hahahahahahaha. It looks like Hide and you are not comucating very well.
If i was obssesing about eating, i would say Gochisousama desita o itadakimasu.
If you want,i would do exorcism for you too. ;)
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(note to self - avoid MILOS at all costs at the Aussie Grand Prix ;D )
Why - I'll kiss you AND YOUR GIRLFRIEND at the Aussie GP.
Ask her in advance...maybe she would want to buy VIP tickets right away...
I promise to kiss AT LEAST ONE of you...and kick the other...and I just can't hit the women...so you have good chance to "walk" - if you change sex in next few months...
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Japanese spelling or "want to look I don't speak English" spelling?
Your boyfriend (Koockie...Kyoocki...or what's his name anyway? Fat guy you are dating...oh yeah - Kyomu) is always bringing the best out of me...and I guess OUT OF YOU...(yack...on the second thought...).
Is it OK to ask...does he swallow?
I mean - raznjici, cepapcici, Visovacka begovica...etc... ::)
hahaahahaa, yeah, i bet he swallows a lot of that.
Sorry, i've only seen his pics from 95.
BTW, if i ever see you in japan i'll invite you for a beer and a sushi, ok?
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Why - I'll kiss you AND YOUR GIRLFRIEND at the Aussie GP.
Ask her in advance...maybe she would want to buy VIP tickets right away...
I promise to kiss AT LEAST ONE of you...and kick the other...and I just can't hit the women...so you have good chance to "walk" - if you change sex in next few months...
I WILL BE SELLING SNAKE OIL IN MY OWN STAND! WE WILL OUTSELL YOU AND AT CHEAPER PRICES!
"THE TRUTH IS IN THE OIL! "
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Hahahahahahaha. It looks like Hide and you are not comucating very well.
If i was obssesing about eating, i would say Gochisousama desita o itadakimasu.
If you want,i would do exorcism for you too. ;)
For me too?
Try it first on yourself...Linda Blair's face with all the makeup is still prettier than yours at the moment...For the love of God - try on yourself - and you might even get a real date (GIRLS this time...not Donkey's and similar...)
IF ::) ::) ::) you were obsessing about eating you say?
IF?
Did you check your belly lately (since 1995?)...How many do you see?
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Then why you didnt invite me this summer?You could punch my face. Are you that enough stupid to notice it? ???
Invite you where?
You are already invited - don-na shurui no sushi ga arimasuka?
Dozen of each as usual?
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For me too?
Try it first on yourself...Linda Blair's face with all the makeup is still prettier than yours at the moment...For the love of God - try on yourself - and you might even get a real date (GIRLS this time...not Donkey's and similar...)
IF ::) ::) ::) you were obsessing about eating you say?
IF?
Did you check your belly lately (since 1995?)...How many do you see?
kyomu, post the pic again please. ;D ;D
Invite you where?
You are already invited - don-na shurui no sushi ga arimasuka?
Dozen of each as usual?
machigatteru yo, Milos-Chan. :-* :-*
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I WILL BE SELLING SNAKE OIL IN MY OWN STAND! WE WILL OUTSELL YOU AND AT CHEAPER PRICES!
"THE TRUTH IS IN THE OIL! "
;D ;D ;D
I'll pay to see that!
Nobody outsells MY SNAKE OIL...NOBODY! >:(
I'll give it for free if I have to...
Hell, I give sushi boy and Donkey as a bonus to first Aussie who comes to see me at the show!
PS: I am putting some synthol into my snake oil...but don't tell to nobody....
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For me too?
Try it first on yourself...Linda Blair's face with all the makeup is still prettier than yours at the moment...For the love of God - try on yourself - and you might even get a real date (GIRLS this time...not Donkey's and similar...)
IF ::) ::) ::) you were obsessing about eating you say?
IF?
Did you check your belly lately (since 1995?)...How many do you see?
Hahahaha. I have 4 psychiatrists friends and all of them told me that i was the most mentaly stabilized person ever seen. If I am mad like you,how come i can meditate more than two hours continuously?
Plus i dont have enemys like you. ;)
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FINALLY MILOS....the sense of humour emerges.
I would not challenge ur products ;D
are u seriously pissed with me lol or just fuckin around
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kyomu, post the pic again please. ;D ;D
machigatteru yo, Milos-Chan. :-* :-*
I think his japanese is correct. I am pretty sure that hide is there too.
Hidesan Olympia ganbatteneeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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PS: I am putting some synthol into my snake oil...but don't tell to nobody....
pure genius! this is why u are the mind.
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"machigatteru yo, Milos-Chan. :-* :-* "
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, that's lovely....Kisses and everything...
Donkey boy - that's nice...but - don't you have a boyfriend already?
He is fat and ugly already - don't break his heart flirting with me...
Besides - didn't you see photo of my wife I posted few minutes ago?
Thanks - but no thanks...
"Love you long time" is not for me...
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Hey Milos , I herd your coming to South Africa next week?
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Hey Milos , I herd your coming to South Africa next week?
???
News flies...
Indeed - I am coming on Wednesday morning...
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Invite you where?
You are already invited - don-na shurui no sushi ga arimasuka?
Dozen of each as usual?
Your gym. You are escaping again again again again......
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Are you going to guest pose? I might attend the show. Im going to the O so i cant get leave all the time.
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FINALLY MILOS....the sense of humour emerges.
I would not challenge ur products ;D
are u seriously pissed with me lol or just fuckin around
If you didn't realize by now - I would not tell you... :-*
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Your gym. You are escaping again again again again......
Miros very, very rucky you rive on other side of grobe!
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I think his japanese is correct. I am pretty sure that hide is there too.
Hidesan Olympia ganbatteneeeeeeeeeeee!!!
Yes, like Hide would be here (MY HOME) at 7 AM...
No Kyoto, Kimono...Bozo...whatever - he is not gangbanging at the O either...
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FINALLY MILOS....the sense of humour emerges.
I would not challenge ur products ;D
are u seriously pissed with me lol or just fuckin around
pissed. ;D
I think his japanese is correct. I am pretty sure that hide is there too.
Hidesan Olympia ganbatteneeeeeeeeeeee!!!
間違ってたよ。
「どんな寿司がありますか」と書いたのに、答えは「いつもの様に１２個」だった。
だから、質問は「どんな寿司がありますか」じゃなくて、「いくつにしますか」や「どんな寿司にしますか」などだぞ。＾＾
冗談だよ。 ;D ;D
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Your gym. You are escaping again again again again......
You are invited anywhere I go...including my gym Lardo...I mean Fatso...
I would love to have a chat in two eyes...
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pissed. ;D
lol.
well i always wanted to meet Milos...but i wont bother then 8)
he needs to drink some pepsi light ...and lighten up ;D
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Milo's while you here in South Africa do you think you could meet with a friend of mine for some advice on pre contest , they will be at the show.
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You are invited anywhere I go...including my gym Lardo...I mean Fatso...
I would love to have a chat in two eyes...
Milo's why are you bothering with all this negative energy?
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pissed. ;D
???????
??????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????? ;D ;D
Well, I am impressed.
Your boyfriend and you do OTHER things as well?
But, AGAIN - love letters are not my thing..coming from anyone but - my wife...Sorry...no kissy- kissy from me...
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pissed. ;D
間違ってたよ。
「どんな寿司がありますか」と書いたのに、答えは「いつもの様に１２個」だった。
だから、質問は「どんな寿司がありますか」じゃなくて、「いくつにしますか」や「どんな寿司にしますか」などだぞ。＾＾
冗談だよ。 ;D ;D
Wakatta youna wakaran youna.....Gomen!
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Well, I am impressed.
Your boyfriend and you do OTHER things as well?
But, AGAIN - love letters are not my thing..coming from anyone but - my wife...Sorry...no kissy- kissy from me...
You talk a lot about homosexual love today, Milos.
I wonder what your wife thinks about that. ;D ;D
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Hahahaha. I have 4 psychiatrists friends and all of them told me that i was the most mentaly stabilized person ever seen. If I am mad like you,how come i can meditate more than two hours continuously?
Plus i dont have enemys like you. ;)
Lets see?
Psychiatrist are dealing with "psychos"...and you've seen 4 already?
You even became their friend (free evaluation material ;D)...Hmmmm, that explains...and they told you - "you are stable"....or they did "stabilized you" mentally that you are now not danger to yourself?
Great work of Spanish doctors...indeed.
You call snoring - meditation?
I "meditate" 6 hours every night...or - almost every night...
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Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...
Your response "The Coach"?
Hahahaha
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Hey, Millos have the marketing stats come in yet on your snake oil...
Exactly how many teenagers are spending their minimum wage piggy bank savings on your canister of powdered monkey shit?
shame on you.
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You are invited anywhere I go...including my gym Lardo...I mean Fatso...
I would love to have a chat in two eyes...
Why you didnt say it to me before summer in spite of my saying that continuously Idiot..
from next month i will be super busy like hell.
Anyway, I will visit you for sure. And before that,Clean your blood. Lets do doping test.
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Lets see?
Psychiatrist are dealing with "psychos"...and you've seen 4 already?
You even became their friend (free evaluation material ;D)...Hmmmm, that explains...and they told you - "you are stable"....or they did "stabilized you" mentally that you are now not danger to yourself?
Great work of Spanish doctors...indeed.
You call snoring - meditation?
I "meditate" 6 hours every night...or - almost every night...
Its totaly coincidence that i have that 4 people as friends.
Have you met any Psychiatrist? I recomend you strongly. :-\
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Hey, Millos have the marketing stats come in yet on your snake oil...
Exactly how many teenagers are spending their minimum wage piggy bank savings on your canister of powdered monkey shit?
shame on you.
hahaha funniest shit i ever read.
I am trying to be nice to Milos, but he seems to want to Rumble with this Bodybuilding fan from down under.
I advocate peace to Milos....It soothes the soul.
like one zen monk once said 'follow the way of the oil, and all will prevail'
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You talk a lot about homosexual love today, Milos.
I wonder what your wife thinks about that. ;D ;D
Yes...I do...I address the problem when I see one.
I hope you don't mind me exposing you and you fat boyfriend?
My wife thinks that gays are OK...and I agree with her - until they start flirting with me - than both of us have to "slap them silly" and say "not THIS guy please...Go to getbig and find Donkey and Fatso...they would appreciate you much more than Milos..."
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Your response "The Coach"?
Hahahaha
Yes "The Coach"...as I told you on the phone - it would take me 30 minutes to make you a believer...but than again - I am expensive...and many might never find out...
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I hope you don't mind me exposing you and you fat boyfriend?
hahaha
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Hey, Millos have the marketing stats come in yet on your snake oil...
Exactly how many teenagers are spending their minimum wage piggy bank savings on your canister of powdered monkey shit?
shame on you.
17356 so far...
For some reason teens nowadays love monkey shit! Go figure?!
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Yes "The Coach"...as I told you on the phone - it would take me 30 minutes to make you a believer...but than again - I am expensive...and many might never find out...
how much this cost? I'm not bullshitting
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Why you didnt say it to me before summer in spite of my saying that continuously Idiot..
from next month i will be super busy like hell.
Anyway, I will visit you for sure. And before that,Clean your blood. Lets do doping test.
No - you clean your blood - I'll test anytime (there is no test for insulin ;))...
Why didn't I say to you before summer - WHAT?
Come see me so I can kick the shit out of you?
Hmmm, I thought you would not come...
My bad...Please come anytime...
Well, with some luck - I might actually be at Santa Susanna anyway...
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Come see me so I can kick the shit out of you?
can u fight? why so aggressive? u enjoy the rumbles?
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No - you clean your blood - I'll test anytime (there is no test for insulin ;))...
Why didn't I say to you before summer - WHAT?
Come see me so I can kick the shit out of you?
Hmmm, I thought you would not come...
My bad...Please come anytime...
Well, with some luck - I might actually be at Santa Susanna anyway...
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A!!!!
You will be in Santa Susana! IFBB Let The mad man like you to be in Back stage?
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Yes "The Coach"...as I told you on the phone - it would take me 30 minutes to make you a believer...but than again - I am expensive...and many might never find out...
gotta give props to the coach tho, he isn't affraid to speak his mind and tell what he thinks of Milos methode to his face without hiding behind a screen name
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gotta give props to the coach tho, he isn't affraid to speak his mind and tell what he thinks of Milos methode to his face without hiding behind a screen name
I plan to show myself.
However, i am not in the mood to 'fight' with a pro bodybuilder lol i am a fan of bodybuilding dont plan to be attacked by MILOS LOL (that would be so retarded)
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Its totaly coincidence that i have that 4 people as friends.
Have you met any Psychiatrist? I recomend you strongly. :-\
Of course IT IS COINCIDENCE... ::) ::) ::)
Have I met one?
My father was THE BEST - Doctor of science of psychiatry - with 14 years of "specialization" AFTER he got his degree...
My sister (surgeon) and mother both told me - I am carbon copy of my dad...Hmmmm - I wonder why?
I am sure you recommend it - look what they did to you...Not 1, not 2...or 3...you had actually 4 before they let you out on streets in Spain...Coincidently - I might add... ;D
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can u fight? why so aggressive? u enjoy the rumbles?
No...but I can intimidate people and make them believe that I do... ;D
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My sister (surgeon) and mother both told me - I am carbon copy of my dad...Hmmmm - I wonder why?
Cuz he over charged his patients?
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A!!!!
You will be in Santa Susana! IFBB Let The mad man like you to be in Back stage?
YES - I would probably be backstage like I was last year...and FRONT ROW (in front of judges)...
Now, I can find you anywhere you tell me.
Just wear something recognisable - so I know which obese fatso is my Japanese fan...
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how much this cost? I'm not bullshitting
1 miiillllion dollars!
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gotta give props to the coach tho, he isn't affraid to speak his mind and tell what he thinks of Milos methode to his face without hiding behind a screen name
He didn't tell me anything except that he doesn't believe in insulin - and I told him: BECAUSE HE HAS NO CLUE ABOUT IT...
I am convinced that IF he does (hears from me) he WILL CHANGE HIS MIND...as soooooooooooooo many others did (including doctors).
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No...but I can intimidate people and make them believe that I do... ;D
Milos, you are confusing me!
I am an expert in the ancient art of 'SNAKE FIGHTING' if u pull any funny business at the aussie show i will defend myself with many snake-like maneuvers.
I COME IN PEACE ;D
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YES - I would probably be backstage like I was last year...and FRONT ROW (in front of judges)...
Now, I can find you anywhere you tell me.
Just wear something recognisable - so I know which obese fatso is my Japanese fan...
Then see you within one month and check my abs dude. 8)
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1 miiillllion dollars!
Is this the Christmas special...Milos has dropped his rate.
I hear for charity it is only 500,000 per minute ;D ;D
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Cuz he over charged his patients?
::)
In Yugoslavia he was paid by the government (read: next to nothing) and was known NEVER TO ACCEPT GIFTS OF ANY KIND...and that could be confirmed in my native city of Becej - anytime (even now 16 years after his death).
Some people do have honor, values, ethics and morals...and my father was one of those!
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Of course IT IS COINCIDENCE... ::) ::) ::)
Have I met one?
My father was THE BEST - Doctor of science of psychiatry - with 14 years of "specialization" AFTER he got his degree...
My sister (surgeon) and mother both told me - I am carbon copy of my dad...Hmmmm - I wonder why?
I am sure you recommend it - look what they did to you...Not 1, not 2...or 3...you had actually 4 before they let you out on streets in Spain...Coincidently - I might add... ;D
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
CRAZY DOCTOR!!!!!!! Thats what exactly I think about you!!
You are damn inteligent and genious but damn crazy also!
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1 miiillllion dollars!
I'll take that...if you insist...
What time are you available?
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::)
In Yugoslavia he was paid by the government (read: next to nothing) and was known NEVER TO ACCEPT GIFTS OF ANY KIND...and that could be confirmed in my native city of Becej - anytime (even now 16 years after his death).
Some people do have honor, values, ethics and morals...and my father was one of those!
So why do you charge so much? Did the apple really fall that far from the tree? I am sure there are plenty of trailer trash that wants to get in shape too. How about a few pro-bono clients?
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So why do you charge so much? Did the apple really fall that far from the tree? I am sure there are plenty of trailer trash that wants to get in shape too. How about as few pro-bono clients?
BECAUSE I AM WORTH EVERY PENNY (AND THAN SOME)...
I had more pro-bono clients than paying clients by far...by farthest of the far... ;)
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Is this the Christmas special...Milos has dropped his rate.
I hear for charity it is only 500,000 per minute ;D ;D
It is - Christmass special for you ONLY...and I'll give you 100 hours for the price of one minute - anytime you want.
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It is - Christmass special for you ONLY...and I'll give you 100 hours for the price of one minute - anytime you want.
why not! i always can learn more ;D
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why not! i always can learn more ;D
That's for sure...and I can always earn more... ;D
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hi milos
where did you studied trainer school ?in california ?
also on massage ? :) :)
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Then see you within one month and check my abs dude. 8)
It is perfectly OK to hope and have dreams Miyoko...Tapioca...or what's your name again.
Donkey help me out here...what's your boyfriends name?
Which one?
OK...I didn't know you have many (could of/should of guess...my bad)...Well - the fat, ugly Japanese who lives in Spain and has not1, not2, not 3..but 4 :o :o :o psychiatrist, fat ass, no abs and no class....but does swallow...sushi...
That's right - Kyoto...I mean - Kiyomu...
Liposuction is serious thing...be careful.
Good luck anyway.
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It is perfectly OK to hope and have dreams Miyoko...Tapioca...or what's your name again.
Donkey help me out here...what's your boyfriends name?
Which one?
OK...I didn't know you have many (could of/should of guess...my bad)...Well - the fat, ugly Japanese who lives in Spain and has not1, not2, not 3..but 4 :o :o :o psychiatrist, fat ass, no abs and no class....but does swallow...sushi...
That's right - Kyoto...I mean - Kiyomu...
Liposuction is serious thing...be careful.
Good luck anyway.
Dont worry partialy white hair old man. Just I recomend you that you dont say many excuse and stupid crazy things about my body in front of my spanish friends. And My dad and mom will be there this time.
Wow I can own you officialy!! cant wait ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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1 week before,even i can give you my cell phone number.No need my name.
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1 week before,even i can give you my cell phone number.No need my name.
do u guys seriously want to meet up and fight LOL.
u should record it on video and put it on youtube.com
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Does Milos still have a penis ?
What's penis?
Do we need one?
Didn't you read about my pythons?
Who needs penis when you have 15 (or 16 ;))inches...of the mightiest pythons - EVEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR?
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hahaha funniest shit i ever read.
I am trying to be nice to Milos, but he seems to want to Rumble with this Bodybuilding fan from down under.
I advocate peace to Milos....It soothes the soul.
like one zen monk once said 'follow the way of the oil, and all will prevail'
hahaha, thanks DL5, Looks like Milos is doing a good job of deflecting criticism by taking the funny road. How long can that last?
Eventually he has to face the man in the mirror holding the can of oil. Nothing funny about that.
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Dont worry partialy white hair old man. Just I recomend you that you dont say many excuse and stupid crazy things about my body in front of my spanish friends. And My dad and mom will be there this time.
Wow I can own you officialy!! cant wait ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Wow...how are you going to do that - as I wipe Spanish floor with your fat ass - in front of crying sushi Sheff and his wife?
Are your 4 psychiatrist coming as well? How about your plastic surgeon? Urologist? Ginecologist? Hypnotist?
How about Donkey?
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hahaha, thanks DL5, Looks like Milos is doing a good job of deflecting criticism by taking the funny road. How long can that last?
Eventually he has to face the man in the mirror holding the can of oil. Nothing funny about that.
well all i can say is 'fuck milos'! i tried to be nice to him but fuck it.
if he cant take a joke which is based on reality (his supplements are overpriced to the point of being fuckin ludicrous mockery of consumers intelligence)
He did not accept the olive branch of peace....so as Hollywood says "THE SHOW MUST GO ON"
IN THIS CASE "THE SNAKE OIL SHOW MUST GO ON"
All the supporter of Snake Oil, u will be proud to know the campaign continues...
Milos resists reality...
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hahaha, thanks DL5, Looks like Milos is doing a good job of deflecting criticism by taking the funny road. How long can that last?
Eventually he has to face the man in the mirror holding the can of oil. Nothing funny about that.
Can of oil?
How about Ocean full?
"Take my oil - or die..."
Do you think this add would work?
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well all i can say is 'fuck milos'! i tried to be nice to him but fuck it.
if he cant take a joke which is based on reality (his supplements are overpriced to the point of being fuckin ludicrous mockery of consumers intelligence)
He did not accept the olive branch of peace....so as Hollywood says "THE SHOW MUST GO ON"
IN THIS CASE "THE SNAKE OIL SHOW MUST GO ON"
All the supporter of Snake Oil, u will be proud to know the campaign continues...
Milos resists reality...
???
What happened?
I thought we made a peace?
What about your PM?
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Can of oil?
How about Ocean full?
"Take my oil - or die..."
Do you think this add would work?
yes, well if many took ur oil they would die, cos they would be broke and not be able to eat or pay bills.
ahhhhhh, maybe u should incorporate these slogans in ur 'real' campaign. u are better when 'trying' to be funny...emphasis on the word 'trying'. keep following my lead, ur humour is improving.
"FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD.....WHICH LEADS TO MILOS'S POCKETS...A WORLD WHERE 'PYTHON ACID' AND SNAKE OIL TRANSFORM UR WALLET TO DUST, AND UR MUSCLES TO RUST"
ENTER: SNAKE OIL!
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???
What happened?
I thought we made a peace?
What about your PM?
THE ONE WHERE U WANT TO PORK 'MY GIRLFRIENDS' ???
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Wow...how are you going to do that - as I wipe Spanish floor with your fat ass - in front of crying sushi Sheff and his wife?
Are your 4 psychiatrist coming as well? How about your plastic surgeon? Urologist? Ginecologist? Hypnotist?
How about Donkey?
Dont worry about my friends. Better worry about not forgeting your slin and needle. By the way, Insulin injected BBer are considered as natural?
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???
What happened?
I thought we made a peace?
What about your PM?
YOU ARE CONFUSING ME ??? STOP SPEAKING IN RIDDLES...THIS IS NOT BATMAN FOREVER AND U ARE NOT THE RIDDLER
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YOU ARE CONFUSING ME ??? STOP SPEAKING IN RIDDLES...THIS IS NOT BATMAN FOREVER AND U ARE NOT THE RIDDLER
Hahahaha.
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yes, well if many took ur oil they would die, cos they would be broke and not be able to eat or pay bills.
ahhhhhh, maybe u should incorporate these slogans in ur 'real' campaign. u are better when 'trying' to be funny...emphasis on the word 'trying'. keep following my lead, ur humour is improving.
"FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD.....WHICH LEADS TO MILOS'S POCKETS...A WORLD WHERE 'PYTHON ACID' AND SNAKE OIL TRANSFORM UR WALLET TO DUST, AND UR MUSCLES TO RUST"
ENTER: SNAKE OIL!
Can you make it into a song?
I would play it on my www.koloseum.com
BTW - did you guys see all the training pics in training galleries?
Garaeth's been doing GREAT JOB at that...
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All bullshit aside, Milos looks phenominal.
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SO WE ARE AT PEACE?
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SO WE ARE AT PEACE?
Uhh.Dangerous. Be careful..
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Uhh.Dangerous. Be careful..
EXPLAIN ???
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EXPLAIN ???
You cant forsee mad mans behavior that easy.
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I must recant my previous statement............... ..Milo's is looking pretty "thick" here against one of the all time mass monsters Nassar
apologies Milo's
Mike
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well he has confused me...milos is bloody crazy, it actually has given me a headache trying to figure him out.
Ease up on YOUR OIL and start taking mine - and you'll see how sharp you will become - instantly.
I might be "too much" for you...but not dangerous or anything like that...
Read my PM and you SHOULD BE ABLE to figure me out...
If not - wait until it's time to sign up for second grade and after just few weeks - you will....(figure me out, understand that 2+2 = 4...and 2 X 2 = 4 , that grass is usually green, sky is usually blue, Kyomu is ALWAYS fat, everyday ugly and usually brainless....but - he is certainly Japanese and temporally living in Spain - where is illegal to have more than 2 grams of brain IF you are Japanese "natural for life bodybuilder" in need for 4 psychiatrist and "Donkey lover"...well - THAT WAS CONFUSING - I should say Donkey as his lover...).
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I finally figured you out ;)
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I must recant my previous statement............... ..Milo's is looking pretty "thick" here against one of the all time mass monsters Nassar
apologies Milo's
Mike
You dont need to lie to kiss his ass dude. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
If he has thick muscle, he could be a O because of his proportion and condition.
Photos deceive a lot. Video and real show dont lie. And he looks thin in both of them(Of course,comparing with top dogs..).
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So why do you charge so much? Did the apple really fall that far from the tree? I am sure there are plenty of trailer trash that wants to get in shape too. How about a few pro-bono clients?
Where were you when I organized FREE SEMINAR for my getbig fans who complained that they simply can't afford my regular fees?
I gave them a chance to come and ASK ME ANYTHING...and I also announced that I would do it ONCE A MONTH IF there is enough interest...
Off course - most of "typical" getbigger's accused me of being "too cleaver" as I just wanted....SOMETHING...an d certainly not to just make myself available for questioning... ::)
As I said - I would do it AGAIN!
What I don't have is TIME to answer ALL THE QUESTIONS and I really don't want to open can of warms that I am not able to close it for months...
Today is (well - was...as I finally have to go) exception...I got some time early in the morning as I finished last night my "next morning duties" so I just checked here...and there it was - thread about me - filled with great things about me (as usual...)...
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Ease up on YOUR OIL and start taking mine - and you'll see how sharp you will become - instantly.
I might be "too much" for you...but not dangerous or anything like that...
Read my PM and you SHOULD BE ABLE to figure me out...
If not - wait until it's time to sign up for second grade and after just few weeks - you will....(figure me out, understand that 2+2 = 4...and 2 X 2 = 4 , that grass is usually green, sky is usually blue, Kyomu is ALWAYS fat, everyday ugly and usually brainless....but - he is certainly Japanese and temporally living in Spain - where is illegal to have more than 2 grams of brain IF you are Japanese "natural for life bodybuilder" in need for 4 psychiatrist and "Donkey lover"...well - THAT WAS CONFUSING - I should say Donkey as his lover...).
Oh I didnt know that i am always fat. I had been swimming competitor long time and i could run 4min40sec 1500m with my fat body. ;) As usual crazy comment.
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You dont need to lie to kiss his ass dude. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
If he has thick muscle, he could be a O because of his proportion and condition.
Photos deceive a lot. Video and real show dont lie. And he looks thin in both of them(Of course,comparing with top dogs..).
;)
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Little self promotion never hurts ;)
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;)
I AM FED UP WITH YOUR SIDE POSE COMPARISON.
WHERE IS YOUR FRONT DOUBLE BI COMPARISON WITCH REVEAL YOUR THIN ARMS?
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::)
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:-*
Oooops - wrong photo... ::)
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STILL WAITING.WHERE IS THE DOUBLE BI COMPARISON PICS?
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Milos will you ever be competing in the IFBB again?
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I AM FED UP WITH YOUR SIDE POSE COMPARISON.
WHERE IS YOUR FRONT DOUBLE BI COMPARISON WITCH REVEAL YOUR THIN ARMS?
WHY DON'T YOU POST THE VIDEO OF YOUR MASS-MONSTER FRIEND OGAWA? SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED OFF THE NET, THAT VIDEO DID.
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I meant to continue with British GP 1999
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WHY DON'T YOU POST THE VIDEO OF YOUR MASS-MONSTER FRIEND OGAWA? SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED OFF THE NET, THAT VIDEO DID.
I SAID HIS DVD IS ABOUT TO COME OFFICIALY FROM IFBB JAPAN.
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I SAID HIS DVD IS ABOUT TO COME OFFICIALY FROM IFBB JAPAN.
BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE SEEN IT . . . WHY DON'T YOU POST A CLIP? THE CHILDREN OF NIPPON DON'T BELIEVE IN ADVANCE PUBLICITY?
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STILL WAITING.WHERE IS THE DOUBLE BI COMPARISON PICS?
Front or back?
Oh...did I say - so, so sorry for waiting...
I hope you had a donaught and a coffee...
Well, not really Coffey...(we don't want you to loose weight)...but certainly a donaught or two (or 10?)...
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Milos will you ever be competing in the IFBB again?
I certainly will...
If I am NOT suspended - I would enter every show this year...
Maybe SOMEONE reads this board and considers taking my suspension few months early?
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THAT WOULD BE GOOD U SHOULD DO ANOTHER MR. O AND READ UR PM
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I AM FED UP WITH YOUR SIDE POSE COMPARISON.
WHERE IS YOUR FRONT DOUBLE BI COMPARISON WITCH REVEAL YOUR THIN ARMS?
You fed up?
Than have some more fatso...we want to feed you up to the ying-ying...or was it ying-yeng?
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Your arms are huge there Milos.
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Milos most people would agree that the late 90's was the demise of the current state of bodybuilding, you should consider yourself lucky, you still have much of the look you had from then only improved upon.
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greatest physique ever 8)
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Your arms are huge there Milos.
You think so?
Japanese mad (fat, ugly, stupid...and what else have we established so far about our dear fatso Kyomu?) thinks I had THIN arms?
He wanted to see my THIN ARMS...and I showed him...
After all he was patiently waiting eating a donought or two (maybe 10? - but who cares..).
Anyway - you think my arms are huge?
Can you please tell this to fatso...I mean lardass...what's his name? Kyomu...
He seems to have a problem believing when I tell him something...as now - I really have to go...Ops - I am late (again). :-\
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You think so?
Japanese mad (fat, ugly, stupid...and what else have we established so far about our dear fatso Kyomu?) thinks I had THIN arms?
He wanted to see my THIN ARMS...and I showed him...
After all he was patiently waiting eating a donought or two (maybe 10? - but who cares..).
Anyway - you think my arms are huge?
Can you please tell this to fatso...I mean lardass...what's his name? Kyomu...
He seems to have a problem believing when I tell him something...as now - I really have to go...Ops - I am late (again). :-\
MILOS!! let it go! this thread has been going on forever.
KOMYU or whatever his name is, let him be, you're like one of the most recognized faces in PRO BODYBUILDING, forget that loser, stop wasting your time!
give us some updates on your guys instead....
Steve
Johnnie..
Hide...
it's just about 3 weeks out from MTL now, should be interesting.
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Milos in 1999 = Synthol Bis
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Komyou get ur self burned and get ur mom and dad somethin they can really be proud of ,u aint good as a bodybuilder so quit it and let it be,,,
u need to understand the fact that no matter how hard u try u can never beat Milos on stage (yes thats a fact)point blank...
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Milos loves to hear himself talk and so long as he has a forum he will make his voice heard.
And god forbid if any person say Milos is wrong......he will just fight you until the end of day.
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Milos loves to hear himself talk and so long as he has a forum he will make his voice heard.
And god forbid if any person say Milos is wrong......he will just fight you until the end of day.
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This is good comedy, would be a good idea to for a BB reality show.
BTW I think Kyomu is Mohamed Mustafa.
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BOOOOOOOOOM!
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What? Please tell me that's shopped. Please.
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What? Please tell me that's shopped. Please.
No. Milos has an eye for sculpting a beautiful and symmetrical physique (by all means necessary).
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Milos in 1999 = Synthol Bis
in years 1999 was milos best
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No , many times Milos should finish higher in the BB contest, the last time Milos entered the Russian Grand Pre he was called out for the 3 or 4 place and he anded up finishing I think 8 th ,thanks to Wayne D.
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Really?
What would you think IF I told you - I only use insulin?
I would absolutely believe it. This is why I have to laugh at people who think that most of these pro's are on a ton of shit, when it's quite the opposite. I just don't like the look it gives when combined with GH and other androgens and anabolics.
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Yes "The Coach"...as I told you on the phone - it would take me 30 minutes to make you a believer...but than again - I am expensive...and many might never find out...
When we talked last week, I was leaving on vacation, I'm back now, lets set it up.
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gotta give props to the coach tho, he isn't affraid to speak his mind and tell what he thinks of Milos methode to his face without hiding behind a screen name
I've been at this for along time and have nothing to hide I've been taught by the best and continue to work with the best and I learn everyday, anyone who thinks they know it all ("Beast 8692" and "VanBilderass") don't!! The people who talk shit yet continue to hide themselves on a gossip board and google anre the ones who have something to hide....not me. I have plenty of happy clients and athletes (high school, college and professional) that are extremly happy with where they came from and where they are now. I have several that have been chosen and will be preparing for the NFL combine in INDY this May, they started with me when they were in high school....thats something to be proud of!
BTW, "Beast" it was 181lbs and even though I don't bench press anymore, I still can put up the 140's for a good 8-10 reps, if you don't believe that, your invited to train with me anytime!!
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I would absolutely believe it. This is why I have to laugh at people who think that most of these pro's are on a ton of shit, when it's quite the opposite. I just don't like the look it gives when combined with GH and other androgens and anabolics.
Oh, so now insulin is only detrimental when combined with GH and androgens? Insulin-only cycle is a good idea?
And aren't you one of those guys who constantly complain about the abusive levels of hormones employed today? I have seen you say that the pros use massive doses of steroids today, unlike when you were competing, when the pros actually relied on training instead of drugs LOL.
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I've been at this for along time and have nothing to hide I've been taught by the best and continue to work with the best and I learn everyday, anyone who thinks they know it all ("Beast 8692" and "VanBilderass") don't!! The people who talk shit yet continue to hide themselves on a gossip board and google anre the ones who have something to hide....not me. I have plenty of happy clients and athletes (high school, college and professional) that are extremly happy with where they came from and where they are now. I have several that have been chosen and will be preparing for the NFL combine in INDY this May, they started with me when they were in high school....thats something to be proud of!
I will be the first to say I know very very little in the big scheme of things. You are the one who acts like you know it all - this attitude shines through all your posts. If you have a lot of knowledge you should share it, instead of just flaming others who try to start a discussion.
I'm always willing to learn. Haven't seen much info from you though. Just grandstanding.
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Oh, so now insulin is only detrimental when combined with GH and androgens? Insulin-only cycle is a good idea?
And aren't you one of those guys who constantly complain about the abusive levels of hormones employed today? I have seen you say that the pros use massive doses of steroids today, unlike when you were competing, when the pros actually relied on training instead of drugs LOL.
Can't read can you?
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say what you say about milos,,he looked better than 99% of guys now days,,flawlwss physiqe done with less than flawless genetics,,i swear if milos from 90s came on stage now days hed be top 6 o,,age is the only problem,,cant bring time back
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say what you say about milos,,he looked better than 99% of guys now days,,flawlwss physiqe done with less than flawless genetics,,i swear if milos from 90s came on stage now days hed be top 6 o,,age is the only problem,,cant bring time back
i agree, awesome physique.
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I've been at this for along time and have nothing to hide I've been taught by the best and continue to work with the best and I learn everyday, anyone who thinks they know it all ("Beast 8692" and "VanBilderass") don't!! The people who talk shit yet continue to hide themselves on a gossip board and google anre the ones who have something to hide....not me. I have plenty of happy clients and athletes (high school, college and professional) that are extremly happy with where they came from and where they are now. I have several that have been chosen and will be preparing for the NFL combine in INDY this May, they started with me when they were in high school....thats something to be proud of!
Coach, I'm calling BS.
1. NO ONE has been chosen for the 2008 NFL Combine yet.
2. The NFL Combine takes place in February, not May.
3. Claiming to prepare college athletes for the Combine when reality shows that 99/100 college players won't be invited is a commonly known SCAM in the NFL business.
4. But hey, you got INDY right. Steak & Shake, baby!
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I will be the first to say I know very very little in the big scheme of things. You are the one who acts like you know it all - this attitude shines through all your posts. If you have a lot of knowledge you should share it, instead of just flaming others who try to start a discussion.
I'm always willing to learn. Haven't seen much info from you though. Just grandstanding.
No dude, calling someone out who answers a question then makes a big thing out of it IS grandstanding on your part and I refuse to argue back and forth with this bullshit, I have shared my knowledge PLENTY of times on here, it's up to you on wether you want to take that advise or not, it's not my problem on wether you believe it or not, someone asked a question, I answered, how in the hell is that grandstanding?
Now excuse me, I have clients!
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When we talked last week, I was leaving on vacation, I'm back now, lets set it up.
Give it a couple days...I'm still coughing up a lung here...*sick*
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Coach, I'm calling BS.
1. NO ONE has been chosen for the 2008 NFL Combine yet.
2. The NFL Combine takes place in February, not May.
3. Claiming to prepare college athletes for the Combine when reality shows that 99/100 college players won't be invited is a commonly known SCAM in the NFL business.
4. But hey, you got INDY right. Steak & Shake, baby!
Ed, my apologies, this is where they were invited to.......
http://www.combines.com/home.asp
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Ed, my apologies, this is where they were invited to.......
http://www.combines.com/home.asp
I'm familiar with them. A former client scored an 8.981 and really should have pushed up 225 one more time.
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My drink(s) [3 drinks - before-during-after] - every time I train /except on the LEGS day - when I don't take during...for obvious reasons.../
Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...
So is it used prior to workout or just the standard protocol of immediately after workout? With all the carbs coming in before, during and after, it seems that you would use it before the workout, just a much smaller dose than normal, due to its heightened effects during a work out, humulog being the brand of choice. It would seem it would be able to perform its job even better in conjunction with the giant sets utilizing it for however the workout lasts, versus only administering after the workout. Comments Milos?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164172.0;attach=189256;image)
sick wheels.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164172.0;attach=189256;image)
sick wheels.
especially for a guy that hasn't competed in forever. His conditioning is insane all the time
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especially for a guy that hasn't competed in forever. His conditioning is insane all the time
8) 8)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164172.0;attach=189256;image)
sick wheels.
I promise you, he only show lower body 'cause his upper body is Mike Quinns definition of "pipe cleaner".
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all i will say is that i was shocked at those pics of Milos at the grand prix, i had not seen pics of him with such thickness, he made Nasser look smaller which is a big feat.
To Milos: why dont u think Nasser won an Olympia? i think it is unfair that he did not?
question 2 : why have u not competed the last years? has this been because ur focus is on ur gym?
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all i will say is that i was shocked at those pics of Milos at the grand prix, i had not seen pics of him with such thickness, he made Nasser look smaller which is a big feat.
To Milos: why dont u think Nasser won an Olympia? i think it is unfair that he did not?
question 2 : why have u not competed the last years? has this been because ur focus is on ur gym?
He didn't really make Nasser look small or even medium dude - check the video clip and you'll see things very differently.
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People who use synthole is very crazy. Here is the example.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164172.0;attach=189756;image)
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You think so?
Japanese mad (fat, ugly, stupid...and what else have we established so far about our dear fatso Kyomu?) thinks I had THIN arms?
He wanted to see my THIN ARMS...and I showed him...
After all he was patiently waiting eating a donought or two (maybe 10? - but who cares..).
Anyway - you think my arms are huge?
Can you please tell this to fatso...I mean lardass...what's his name? Kyomu...
He seems to have a problem believing when I tell him something...as now - I really have to go...Ops - I am late (again). :-\
You are constantly escaping escaping escaping.............as usual.
I said Double Bi COMPARISON.
Of course,you alone look great. You are one of the great bber in the history.
But dont go over and say you look almost same as Nasser,Rhul,Ronnie who were known for their mass.
In front of these top dogs,YOU LOOK LIKE SWIMMER.
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Komyou get ur self burned and get ur mom and dad somethin they can really be proud of ,u aint good as a bodybuilder so quit it and let it be,,,
u need to understand the fact that no matter how hard u try u can never beat Milos on stage (yes thats a fact)point blank...
Better ask me before you talk. That was 1993,since i saw him in Spanish Grand prix,I have been a fan of this mad man and still i am. Me myself used to be a competitor(and i think i can make a one good splash one last time in near future.) and i have tremendous respect to any pros.
But,Saying the truth or lying to myself and kissing ass of these pros are another history.
When Milos do stupid thing,I say stupid. When Milos do clever thing,i say inteligent.
But this mad man only respond to "bad" criteria and start to insult me.
Thats why I call him a crazy dude.
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Better ask me before you talk. That was 1993,since i saw him in Spanish Grand prix,I have been a fan of this mad man and still i am. Me myself used to be a competitor(and i think i can make a one good splash one last time in near future.) and i have tremendous respect to any pros.
But,Saying the truth or lying to myself and kissing ass of these pros are another history.
When Milos do stupid thing,I say stupid. When Milos do clever thing,i say inteligent.
But this mad man only respond to "bad" criteria and start to insult me.
Thats why I call him a crazy dude.
hahahah, dude that is funny, sorry but got to laugh at your english.
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hahahah, dude that is funny, sorry but got to laugh at your english.
I know, his English cracks me up.
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hahahah, dude that is funny, sorry but got to laugh at your english.
hehehe. :-[
But did you get what i mean?
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every pic I see of everyone at milos' gym looks unreal, they gotta get the guy who set up the lighting in there to start setting up some of the IFBB's lighting at shows.
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hehehe. :-[
But did you get what i mean?
yes I did kyomu, but arn't you taking this all too seriously, it has been over a day now and your still at it.
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yes I did kyomu, but arn't you taking this all too seriously, it has been over a day now and your still at it.
No no. Its super fun to fight against Milos.If I really get mad at one person,I dont even talk to him.
And also very good motivation for dieting and cardio. I am so razy person that i dont do diet that much. I have never diet down in my life except the preparation for contests. Preparation for the show is very good motivation.Think about it....You cant be onstage with your fat hanging down in front of many people. And if you quit,they call you Kuwak kuwa kuwa kuwa kuwa.......Chicken!!
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milos typical response...
OK lardo ...i mean fatso ..(since you are fat) ..blah blahb
2 pages later....Anytime at my gym (fatso)
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You think so?
Japanese mad (fat, ugly, stupid...and what else have we established so far about our dear fatso Kyomu?) thinks I had THIN arms?
He wanted to see my THIN ARMS...and I showed him...
After all he was patiently waiting eating a donought or two (maybe 10? - but who cares..).
Anyway - you think my arms are huge?
Can you please tell this to fatso...I mean lardass...what's his name? Kyomu...
He seems to have a problem believing when I tell him something...as now - I really have to go...Ops - I am late (again). :-\
WOW! Is this the real Milos!? I saw pics of you in my dad's old bodybuilding magazines. You were one of the top pros in the 90's. I think you have an awesome physique. It's great that you post on here!
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WOW! Is this the real Milos!? I saw pics of you in my dad's old bodybuilding magazines. You were one of the top pros in the 90's. I think you have an awesome physique. It's great that you post on here!
Yeah.But dont estimate that high. He looks good and one of the legend. But he is a crazy guy.
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say what you say about milos,,he looked better than 99% of guys now days,,flawlwss physiqe done with less than flawless genetics,,i swear if milos from 90s came on stage now days hed be top 6 o,,age is the only problem,,cant bring time back
True. BUT Milos has never ever gone any long perios o time without injecting or ingesting some kind of anabolic compound. And if it is not anabolic it oil to swell the muscle. Milos can say no no no but there are people who do know what he is doing .....would anybody be surprised if Milos died of heart failure tommorrow god forbid...i for on ewould not be surprised. Only time will tell. Lets wait and see. Take care of yourself Milos.
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milos typical response...
OK lardo ...i mean fatso ..(since you are fat) ..blah blahb
2 pages later....Anytime at my gym (fatso)
;D ;D ;D
...or anywhere else...
Finishing with - how is your skin rush fatboy? ;D ;D
Hey - I am not so predictable... >:(
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Yeah . In addition,his using synthol in his bis was telling that he couldnt do nothing more about his arms :'(
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milos didn't just use synthol for one contest. he used it for several years and particularly in his biceps. unfortunately, insecurity about lack of arm size got the better of him and he used more and more until disaster struck. funny that he used to say that he supposedly didn't care about his arm size, that 'bbing was about proportion and symmetry.' ;D
i am happy for milos that his business is thriving, but the man is still as vain, egotistical and insecure as ever. anyone that knows anything about bbing drugs knows that a man approaching 50 years of age does not maintain that level of muscle mass with that condition with just fucking insulin injections and carbohydrates (apparently he's never even had to diet either ;D).
think about it. he has not had a break from anabolic drugs for over 20 years. what do you think that has done to his hormone levels ??? not to mention that his natural gh and test levels would have dropped markedly with age anyway.
milos is lying again and this time it's quite serious.
i wonder how many aspiring bbers reading this board might just think that taking insulin shots before 'every workout' will help give them the development and condition of milos?
the information milos has given is erroneous, self serving (milos wants you to buy his supplements and to provide drug info) and downright dangerous.
milos, you refer to your father as a man of integrity. what a pity you didn't follow in his foot steps.
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;D ;D ;D
...or anywhere else...
Finishing with - how is your skin rush fatboy? ;D ;D
Hey - I am not so predictable... >:(
Hey. How is your madness today?
Did you curse me today? Cus i had vomit a lot due to food poisoning.
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You are constantly escaping escaping escaping.............as usual.
I said Double Bi COMPARISON.
Of course,you alone look great. You are one of the great bber in the history.
But dont go over and say you look almost same as Nasser,Rhul,Ronnie who were known for their mass.
In front of these top dogs,YOU LOOK LIKE SWIMMER.
;D ;D
English Gp 1999 was pro bodybuilding contest - not swimming...
That's why Ronnie manage to beat me...(not Nasser or Markus...) -
If that was swimming contest - I would have won - with ease...(Yes, among other things I was/am good swimmer - 100 meter freestyle 56 seconds before I turned 18...)
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;D ;D
English Gp 1999 was pro bodybuilding contest - not swimming...
That's why Ronnie manage to beat me...(not Nasser or Markus...) -
If that was swimming contest - I would have won - with ease...(Yes, among other things I was/am good swimmer - 100 meter freestyle 56 seconds before I turned 18...)
Very good. 56 seconds! :o I could swim 1minutes flat when i was 17.
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Hey. How is your madness today?
Did you curse me today? Cus i had vomit a lot due to food poisoning.
Curse you?
When did I do that?
I only call you what you are - fat, ugly, stupid, Japanese...fat...ugly...
Did I say fat and ugly?
But, look on the bright side - you are smart enough to poison yourself - so you can vomit and loose some weight...
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Milos, are you going to be working with Dennis Wolf before the Olympia this year?
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Curse you?
When did I do that?
I only call you what you are - fat, ugly, stupid, Japanese...fat...ugly...
Did I say fat and ugly?
But, look on the bright side - you are smart enough to poison yourself - so you can vomit and loose some weight...
Hahahahaha! Crazy as usual. Good.
You think your arms are good dont you? Why you did synthole in the past(Still?)?
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I'm guessing this is not the real Milos posting on here. I can't imagine a pro bodybuilder wasting his time bickering on-line.
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Curse you?
When did I do that?
I only call you what you are - fat, ugly, stupid, Japanese...fat...ugly...
Did I say fat and ugly?
But, look on the bright side - you are smart enough to poison yourself - so you can vomit and loose some weight...
Wow Milos...that's not nice. I thought you were bigger than that. :-\
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Wow Milos...that's not nice. I thought you were bigger than that. :-\
Is that your pic on your avatar? You're very sexy. Do you have a boyfriend?
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Is that your pic on your avatar? You're very sexy. Do you have a boyfriend?
Yes it is, thank you and yes I do.
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So since we're being so open and honest, Milos.. what's a good post workout humalog dosage? I've been told between 5 and 10 iu's
your thoughts?
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Yes it is, thank you and yes I do.
Bummer. Let me know if things don't workout ;)
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milos didn't just use synthol for one contest. he used it for several years and particularly in his biceps. unfortunately, insecurity about lack of arm size got the better of him and he used more and more until disaster struck. funny that he used to say that he supposedly didn't care about his arm size, that 'bbing was about proportion and symmetry.' ;D
i am happy for milos that his business is thriving, but the man is still as vain, egotistical and insecure as ever. anyone that knows anything about bbing drugs knows that a man approaching 50 years of age does not maintain that level of muscle mass with that condition with just fucking insulin injections and carbohydrates (apparently he's never even had to diet either ;D).
think about it. he has not had a break from anabolic drugs for over 20 years. what do you think that has done to his hormone levels ??? not to mention that his natural gh and test levels would have dropped markedly with age anyway.
milos is lying again and this time it's quite serious.
i wonder how many aspiring bbers reading this board might just think that taking insulin shots before 'every workout' will help give them the development and condition of milos?
the information milos has given is erroneous, self serving (milos wants you to buy his supplements and to provide drug info) and downright dangerous.
milos, you refer to your father as a man of integrity. what a pity you didn't follow in his foot steps.
Loud applaud my friend! Very well said and very accurate as well.
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think about it. he has not had a break from anabolic drugs for over 20 years. what do you think that has done to his hormone levels ??? not to mention that his natural gh and test levels would have dropped markedly with age anyway.
True. There is no way he walks around with castrate levels of testosterone. I'm sure he is on HRT at the very least (when he isn't blasting a "real" cycle). Some count that as "steroid free" but I don't.
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think about it. he has not had a break from anabolic drugs for over 20 years. what do you think that has done to his hormone levels ??? not to mention that his natural gh and test levels would have dropped markedly with age anyway.
what do you care?
its his body.
'milo's does this and milos does that'
grow up and get a life.
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what do you care?
its his body.
'milo's does this and milos does that'
grow up and get a life.
i don't care what a man does with his own body.
what he's doing seems to be working great so far. i hope it continues to do so. he looks awesome.
however, the man is lying his ass off about only being on insulin, which i think is irresponsible of him because, as a result, some bbers are going to use insulin injections prior to every workout without any other anabolic drugs like gh and test and expect the same results as milos, which won't and can't happen because milos is not just using insulin.
consequently they are going to either end up fat or, at worst case scenario, dead.
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I have a suggestion for some bbers ( for the not to smarts and those are smart and they would like to be smarter) go and purchase books on : ( nutrition, endocrinology, molecular medicine, reproductive medicine, human biology, biochemistry etc...) for start Testosterone -Action -Deficiency- Substitution ,I recommend all 3 edition, editors E. Nieschlag an H.M.Behre e-mail:orders@springer.de each book coast $125 USD. This books are very technical. I think after finishing 5 or 6 technical books you will be ready to be a bb, for now you just lifting weights.
Regards
Biceps
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I think after finishing 5 or 6 technical books you will be ready to be a bb, for now you just lifting weights.
Regards
Biceps
99, 9999% of successful bodybuilders know practically nothing about the drugs they ingest nor how the body works. It's not a requisite to be successful. That's why there are "gurus" who do the reading, although a lot of the time the gurus aren't as smart as they think either.
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if you have available $$ only for 1 book I recommend the 2nd edition, The book presents the biochemistry of testosterone,its biosynthesis, metabolism and mechanisms of action in target organs.Effects on bones, muscles,lipids, hair,the prostate,and the brain. This is the stete-of-the-art book about testosterone action and therapy for endocrinologists,andrologist,urologist and pharmacologists.
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99, 9999% of successful bodybuilders know practically nothing about the drugs they ingest nor how the body works. It's not a requisite to be successful. That's why there are "gurus" who do the reading, although a lot of the time the gurus aren't as smart as they think either.
And how do you know this? What proof do you have that 99.9999% of successful BBrs know "practically nothing"?
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You talking about the gurus getting informations from the underground steroids books ? oh yes they know everything.
BTV is las then 999.9%
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And how do you know this? What proof do you have that 99.9999% of successful BBrs know "practically nothing"?
I don't personally know any pro bodybuilders. I know a lot of competitive amateurs though and basically none of them have the slightest clue nor do they care. All they care about is "will this make me grow?" I have a few connections who know some pros and they are mostly the same. The pro bodybuilders who have written about drugs on the net strengthens my opinion. The technical knowledge is extremely poor. Stuff like Bob Chick saying "it takes 2 weeks for a steroid to go to the receptor which is why I drop all steroids 2 weeks before the show".
Notice that I'm talking about technical knowledge, not personal experience with drugs or diet etc. They have learned through trial and error and that is usually enough. Personal experience is very valuable of course, I'm not discounting it.
When you have a bodybuilder like Dave Palumbo who tries to act smart and scientific and book learned while being wrong most of the time it shows how little the average bodybuilder really knows - I mean he is the "go to" guy for many competitors. If anyone doubts me read Dave's thread on MD. It's a clusterfuck of misinformation. Someone with a science background like Layne Norton could tear Palumbo a new one quite easily. Too bad he doesn't want to upset the balance over there.
What do you think?
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Van Bilderass,
I know many pro and amateur bb you are correct, personally I know about a dozen bb with good knowledge, they all read book and try to stay up dated.
BTW I think Milos has all 3 editions.
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every pic I see of everyone at milos' gym looks unreal, they gotta get the guy who set up the lighting in there to start setting up some of the IFBB's lighting at shows.
nothing special in the lighting natural al, just regular halogens up on the ceiling 15-20 feet up, and some flourescents :-\
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Van Bilderass,
It takes 2 to 6 hours to reach maximum serum levels in the blood, dipend on administration: orally, or sublingually or rectally or nasal or intramuscular or implants or trandermal or microspheres. Tow weeks is wrong.
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Probably will take 2 weeks if wee take in consideration that takes 1 week for the money order to arrive and 1 week to receive the product.
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Some time will take for ever if the package get confiscated by the costumes.
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Van Bilderass,
It takes 2 to 6 hours to reach maximum serum levels in the blood, dipend on administration: orally, or sublingually or rectally or nasal or intramuscular or implants or trandermal or microspheres. Tow weeks is wrong.
Yea, I don't even know what exactly he was trying to say or if he even knew himself. I guess he was responding to someone who questioned the idea of dropping the steroids at two weeks out, if there wouldn't be a negative rebound. My point is that he dropped the word "receptor" to try to sound smart without really understanding how steroids interact in the body etc.
LOL @ the other two replies.
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Van Bilderass,
all my post are markt for remove
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Milos's thighs look very thick and cut there.
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i see Milos is still busy fighting the japanese 'fatso'....
Relax and have a drink, and say hi to your wife from me, Milos!
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Wow Milos...that's not nice. I thought you were bigger than that. :-\
its not nice to judge either ;)
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its not nice to judge either ;)
it's also not nice to criticize people who criticize other people.
ooops, nevermind. ;D ;D
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it's also not nice to criticize people who criticize other people.
its also not nice to criticise the critic that criticised others :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
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its also not nice to criticise the critic that criticised others :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Hey wait, are you telling me i should not have criticized you for criticizing him for criticizing Milos yet now you criticize me for criticizing you for criticizing him for criticizing Milos??
Not very nice... :-\ :-\
;D ;D ;D
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Hey wait, are you telling me i should not have criticized you for criticizing him for criticizing Milos yet now you criticize me for criticizing you for criticizing him for criticizing Milos??
Not very nice... :-\ :-\
;D ;D ;D
well said.
i give up topping that one. ;D
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
LOL ! MIKE A DOGGING OUT MILOS LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
MIKE YOU AND BILLY GUNS ARE THE WORSE ''BB'S'' IN AMERICA !
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What Milos has always lacked is thickness............... ....
i like Milos, but his physique always reminded me of an ironing board with abs
LOL ! MIKE A DOGGING OUT MILOS LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
MIKE YOU AND BILLY GUNS ARE THE WORSE ''BB'S'' IN AMERICA !
Again, you don't sacrifice symmetry for size, there's a limit on size without screwing up symmetry!
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Milos, are you going to be working with Dennis Wolf before the Olympia this year?
He is going to stay with me in Fullerton...in about 2 weeks from now...
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Hahahahaha! Crazy as usual. Good.
You think your arms are good dont you? Why you did synthole in the past(Still?)?
Why?
I didn't know it was - posing oil...
I am typical bodybuilder and didn't read instructions...
You think your abs are good don't you? Why you did lard in the past (Still?)?
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I'm guessing this is not the real Milos posting on here. I can't imagine a pro bodybuilder wasting his time bickering on-line.
You are calling this - "waste of time"? ::)
I am having endless fun...and where else - but here on GETBIG?
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Wow Milos...that's not nice. I thought you were bigger than that. :-\
You thought wrong... ;)
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So since we're being so open and honest, Milos.. what's a good post workout humalog dosage? I've been told between 5 and 10 iu's
your thoughts?
You've been told wrong...
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True. There is no way he walks around with castrate levels of testosterone. I'm sure he is on HRT at the very least (when he isn't blasting a "real" cycle). Some count that as "steroid free" but I don't.
::) ::) ::)
Wow..."castrate levels of testosterone"?
Well, when I argue with gh15 and expose what REAL CYCLE of the pros should look like - nobody believes me...but everyone is SO SURE I am on HRT at the very least...
Anyone...anytime wants to put their money where their mouth is - and come to see me in Fullerton (my gym) - so we could immediately go and test our "test" (and other hormones) levels?
Anyone noticed obvious sings of steroid abuse (or usage?)...in me?
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::) ::) ::)
Wow..."castrate levels of testosterone"?
Well, when I argue with gh15 and expose what REAL CYCLE of the pros should look like - nobody believes me...but everyone is SO SURE I am on HRT at the very least...
Anyone...anytime wants to put their money where their mouth is - and come to see me in Fullerton (my gym) - so we could immediately go and test our "test" (and other hormones) levels?
Anyone noticed obvious sings of steroid abuse (or usage?)...in me?
Are you kidding?
Are you telling me your body is attainable naturally?
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Anyone see noticable signs of steroid use in this??
I guess Mischko got this big with german chocolade...
(http://blog.flexonline.com/Milos%202.jpg)
(http://www.tv-nostalgie.de/Sound/Milka.jpg)
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Why?
I didn't know it was - posing oil...
I am typical bodybuilder and didn't read instructions...
You think your abs are good don't you? Why you did lard in the past (Still?)?
No no. My abs has never been outstanding.And never ever inject "posing oil" to my abs like you ;D
I hate injection. Its ouch! ;D
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So since we're being so open and honest, Milos.. what's a good post workout humalog dosage? I've been told between 5 and 10 iu's
your thoughts?
Use Humilin R, the Humalog is too long acting. Depending on your BW 5-10 units should be fine. Just remember to take carbs immediately. 5 unit followed by 50 grams of simple carbs (carbo force works great) And don't forget to take creatine. Normally I'd say you wouldn't get to much out of creatine, but Insulin is the vehicle that shuttles the creatine into your muscles.
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(http://blog.flexonline.com/Milos%202.jpg)
Milos, might I suggest :D?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/bed.jpg)
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What's funny is that Milos wasn't dieting for a show, what's disturbing is that he is still wearing posing trunks well after he stopped competing.
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What's funny is that Milos wasn't dieting for a show, what's disturbing is that he is still wearing posing trunks well after he stopped competing.
its called dedication...u never know when u are about to drop ur pants and compare quads with mr. olympia ;)
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Use Humilin R, the Humalog is too long acting. Depending on your BW 5-10 units should be fine. Just remember to take carbs immediately. 5 unit followed by 50 grams of simple carbs (carbo force works great) And don't forget to take creatine. Normally I'd say you wouldn't get to much out of creatine, but Insulin is the vehicle that shuttles the creatine into your muscles.
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Here is a genius...Humalog is YOU SAY "too long acting" and Humulin R is supposedly faster?
Please - keep your mouth shut and let adults talk...
How is Disneyland - anyway?
Snow White still your girl?
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::) ::) ::)
Here is a genius...Humalog is YOU SAY "too long acting" and Humulin R is supposedly faster?
Please - keep your mouth shut and let adults talk...
sorry Dballn but Milos is right on this one!
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::) ::) ::)
Here is a genius...Humalog is YOU SAY "too long acting" and Humulin R is supposedly faster?
Please - keep your mouth shut and let adults talk...
How is Disneyland - anyway?
Snow White still your girl?
Yep............... ouch!!!
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What's funny is that Milos wasn't dieting for a show, what's disturbing is that he is still wearing posing trunks well after he stopped competing.
Hmmmm, disturbing....
You've heard the story of me possibly competing last year in Romania?
I was going to surprise everyone and just pick the number at athletes meeting later that day.
I started shaving in my room (finished legs and front) when Jay called and asked me if I can help him with his color...
Jay came to the room...coloring took way to long...and I ended up not competing (I still regret it BTW)...
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jay is so selfish, he should have let u shave.
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Milos, might I suggest :D?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/bed.jpg)
Coach - remember I was severely burned in the accident (4-degree burns to my face, arms and back) - and CAN'T go on the sun for a while...
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Coach - remember I was severely burned in the accident (4-degree burns to my face, arms and back) - and CAN'T go on the sun for a while...
it's OK, Protan does a good job anyway
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jay is so selfish, he should have let u shave.
Jay had no idea what I was planning...and HE NEVER ASKED ;D ;D ;D
I was wondering when he is going to ask me - what a hell I am doing in my posing trunks and a T-shirt....
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Jay had no idea what I was planning...and HE NEVER ASKED ;D ;D ;D
I was wondering when he is going to ask me - what a hell I am doing in my posing trunks and a T-shirt....
must have been his low carbs...if he saw ur abs he should have realised.
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Again, you don't sacrifice symmetry for size, there's a limit on size without screwing up symmetry!
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i see Milos is still busy fighting the japanese 'fatso'....
Relax and have a drink, and say hi to your wife from me, Milos!
My wife (emphasis on "my" ;D) said "Hi"...
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Coach - remember I was severely burned in the accident (4-degree burns to my face, arms and back) - and CAN'T go on the sun for a while...
Milos, I'm sooo sorry, that totally slipped my mind when I posted that, I meant no malice whatsoever!
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Milos, I'm sooo sorry, that totally slipped my mind when I posted that, I meant no malice whatsoever!
NO PROBLEM - WHATSOEVER...
BTW - we are training LEGS at 11 AM - want to join?
Garraeth is back in action (since yesterday...still sick - so here is your chance to get him...Also girl I was telling you about is training with us - today she is on ZERO CARBS...so you might even have a chance to get her...but I doubt... ;)...And the problem with this is - I am NOT JOKING.)
I know it is short notice - but you are not too far...
I can even wait a little if you are going to be late...
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NO PROBLEM - WHATSOEVER...
BTW - we are training LEGS at 11 AM - want to join?
Garraeth is back in action (since yesterday...still sick - so here is your chance to get him...Also girl I was telling you about is training with us - today she is on ZERO CARBS...so you might even have a chance to get her...but I doubt... ;)...And the problem with this is - I am NOT JOKING.)
I know it is short notice - but you are not too far...
I can even wait a little if you are going to be late...
I'm at work right now, what does tomorrow look like for you? I'm off most of the day!
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I'm at work right now, what does tomorrow look like for you? I'm off most of the day!
Tomorrow looks like SUNDAY to me - only day I can spend with my family - RESTING...
Cancel your appointments - and I'll even pay your fee...or better yet - bring couple of clients here to join us for legs... ;)
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::) ::) ::)
Wow..."castrate levels of testosterone"?
Well, when I argue with gh15 and expose what REAL CYCLE of the pros should look like - nobody believes me...but everyone is SO SURE I am on HRT at the very least...
Anyone...anytime wants to put their money where their mouth is - and come to see me in Fullerton (my gym) - so we could immediately go and test our "test" (and other hormones) levels?
Anyone noticed obvious sings of steroid abuse (or usage?)...in me?
When I said castrate levels I was exaggerating slightly for effect... BUT... you mean to tell me that you are the only pro with normal testosterone levels after decades of juicing?
Obvious signs of steroid use? Well, I guess it's possible you are the only pro who maintains or even increases their muscle mass when off steroids, with just a little humalog. ::) ::) Maybe you should help Mike Morris... dude withered away (same as most others who came off). :D
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Then again, maybe this protocol restored Milos' testes fully :D
Q: Do you know anyone who has suffered from the effects of exogenus testosterone usage to the point it is affected their baby making capabilities? I'm already working with an Urologist, and I just wanted different input if you know of anyone who has happened to have been through this.
A:milos sarcev Maaaany bodybuilders have that problem and surely we all know why we have that problem. Our HPTA gets screwed up for some strange, medically unknown reason.
A common practice which I would highly suggest you try is to use Bulgarian Tribestan, and some of the guys have suggested that Biotest's product is worthy as well. Take 3 capsules in the morning on an empty stomach, and 3 more eight hours later. 5 days on, 2 off. Clomid was 50mg/ed. Do this for 8 weeks and took 4 weeks off and then repeat the cycle. At the begining of the second cycle a blood test showed that the Hypothalamus started to produce FSH again, this hormone tells the testes to start working. After you reach normal FSH value it will take approx 60 days before the sperm count starts to rise.
Certainly, this system would not work for everyone. It depends on individuality and where the core problems comes from. Doctors would try to treat both "H" and "T". Normally - to increase your FSH and LH they would (more than likely) put you on METRODIN (generic name - urofollitropin) or PERGONAL (menotropin) with dosage between 75 and 150 IU/day for 7 to 10 days. Followed by one shot of 10000 IU of PROFASI (chorionic gonadotropin), and than 3 more shoots of 5000 IU every 3 days ( 3 to 5 shoots maximum). At the same time I would suggest you to take tribestan or tribex (I guess it works according to a lot of the guys?!). Gonadorelin is also successfully used in Europe (product named KRYPTOCUR) and there are different products here in USA. But, as you are going to see a doctor - let us know what he (or she ??) recommends! BTW, did anyone tell you that having sex would help too?
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Here is a genius...Humalog is YOU SAY "too long acting" and Humulin R is supposedly faster?
Please - keep your mouth shut and let adults talk...
How is Disneyland - anyway?
Snow White still your girl?
OK...Milos ::) I've always been on your side. But Humalog is longer acting, Making it harder to control sides, like guts. Humalog does peak just as fast as Humulin R, but lingers around longer. You of all people should know this.
Damn ever since your suspension you've turned into quite the Bitter Old Man with "Has Been" Syndrome. Every one of your posts is a virtual meltdown. It's like your constantly defending yourself.
Calm down tiger, it ain't that serious. In a year you can hang out and schmoe it up back stage again.
Disneyland was great, and no Snow White is Not my girl, I'm pounding Cinderella.
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OK...Milos ::) I've always been on your side. But Humalog is longer acting, Making it harder to control sides, like guts. Humalog does peak just as fast as Humulin R, but lingers around longer. You of all people should know this.
I think you mixed up these two products. Humalog starts working much faster (minutes) and doesn't linger as long.
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OK...Milos ::) I've always been on your side. But Humalog is longer acting, Making it harder to control sides, like guts. Humalog does peak just as fast as Humulin R, but lingers around longer. You of all people should know this.
Damn ever since your suspension you've turned into quite the Bitter Old Man with "Has Been" Syndrome. Every one of your posts is a virtual meltdown. It's like your constantly defending yourself.
Calm down tiger, it ain't that serious. In a year you can hang out and schmoe it up back stage again.
Disneyland was great, and no Snow White is Not my girl, I'm pounding Cinderella.
It looks like you are pounding Pluto at best...and "has been" syndrome will stay with me to the rest of my life - as besides competing next year - I also plan to be IN SHAPE for life...as I know how and certainly LOVE the process...
Even today - I follow today's champions in their workouts - with NO PROBLEM (working 12-16 hour days at that)...
My "meltdowns" are usually - picking someone appart - and that 'someone' usually needs to learn a lesson - like you...for instance.
HUMALOG is faster than Humulin R and that is a fact which even you could learm IF you read just a little...(something besides Disneyland News or Cinderella times...well...or maybe your favorite "Pluto today")
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It looks like you are pounding Pluto at best...and "has been" syndrome will stay with me to the rest of my life - as besides competing next year - I also plan to be IN SHAPE for life...as I know how and certainly LOVE the process...
Even today - I follow today's champions in their workouts - with NO PROBLEM (working 12-16 hour days at that)...
My "meltdowns" are usually - picking someone appart - and that 'someone' usually needs to learn a lesson - like you...for instance.
HUMALOG is faster than Humulin R and that is a fact which even you could learm IF you read just a little...(something besides Disneyland News or Cinderella times...well...or maybe your favorite "Pluto today")
haha that last part made me laugh!
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Wow..."castrate levels of testosterone"?
Well, when I argue with gh15 and expose what REAL CYCLE of the pros should look like - nobody believes me...but everyone is SO SURE I am on HRT at the very least...
Anyone...anytime wants to put their money where their mouth is - and come to see me in Fullerton (my gym) - so we could immediately go and test our "test" (and other hormones) levels?
Anyone noticed obvious sings of steroid abuse (or usage?)...in me?
you never did display 'obvious signs of steroid ause (or usage)' apart from extreme muscular development. what's your point?
not everyone shows obvious negative effects (which i assume you are referring to) + there are other remedies for those effects ie zits, water retention, gyno, etc.
no one is going to come along with a testing kit and you know it so don't be silly. to provide for testing all anabolic drugs one would have to have a lot of money (please don't even bother with the natural tets levels crap).
i have no problem at all with your usage of these drugs. everyone uses some type of drugs or another, whether it be alcohol, nicotine, cannabis, stimulants, pain killers, etc, etc, etc. even the food we eat has antibiotics, pestisides, hormones, etc in it.
my issue is the promote insulin with the pitch that this is the only anabolic drug you are using to create the body you have. that is an insult to the very bbers you work with. at least they don't try to deny using steroids, gh, etc. hell you've even nominated them as using them.
i don't know why you lie about these things. is it really necessary to do this to generate business? :-\
btw, your wife is a beautiful woman. i'm assuming that she is very patient and tolerant to put up with you.
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When I said castrate levels I was exaggerating slightly for effect... BUT... you mean to tell me that you are the only pro with normal testosterone levels after decades of juicing?
Obvious signs of steroid use? Well, I guess it's possible you are the only pro who maintains or even increases their muscle mass when off steroids, with just a little humalog. ::) ::) Maybe you should help Mike Morris... dude withered away (same as most others who came off). :D
Slightly exaggerating ;D ;D (my style too...) BUT - I mean to tell you that I am NOT THE ONLY PRO with normal testosterone levels after decades of juicing - I know MANY....and I do mean - MANY.
Those are the people I was referring to when I was stating what normal cycle of the pros should look like - but our expert gh15 jumped in and exposed some CRAZY CYCLES that would indeed make castrated man proud (of his testosterone levels0 in comparison to IDIOTS like gh15 and his believers - who CERTAINLY will come in category of - "forget normal life and say hallo to lifelong nightmare"
Anyway - I'll take tests and compare with any of you - so call "naturals" and "real man"...just for fun...
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Jay had no idea what I was planning...and HE NEVER ASKED ;D ;D ;D
I was wondering when he is going to ask me - what a hell I am doing in my posing trunks and a T-shirt....
Very Disturbing!!!!!!!!! Did you make him pay you or did you do it for free? :o ;D 8)
BTW Milos, Does your wife still have nightmares from the time you accidentally mainlined synthol and you went down in the bathroom of your own house? That must have been a great time for her. ::)
Don't worry, I know a year seem like a long time but you'll have your backstage privileges back so you can "coach" your guys. ;)
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you never did display 'obvious signs of steroid ause (or usage)' apart from extreme muscular development. what's your point?
not everyone shows obvious negative effects (which i assume you are referring to) + there are other remedies for those effects ie zits, water retention, gyno, etc.
no one is going to come along with a testing kit and you know it so don't be silly. to provide for testing all anabolic drugs one would have to have a lot of money (please don't even bother with the natural tets levels crap).
i have no problem at all with your usage of these drugs. everyone uses some type of drugs or another, whether it be alcohol, nicotine, cannabis, stimulants, pain killers, etc, etc, etc. even the food we eat has antibiotics, pestisides, hormones, etc in it.
my issue is the promote insulin with the pitch that this is the only anabolic drug you are using to create the body you have. that is an insult to the very bbers you work with. at least they don't try to deny using steroids, gh, etc. hell you've even nominated them as using them.
i don't know why you lie about these things. is it really necessary to do this to generate business? :-\
btw, your wife is a beautiful woman. i'm assuming that she is very patient and tolerant to put up with you.
Interesting my wife is amazed that I do have patience "dealing with kids and idiots on getbig"..but than even she said - some of them are just FUNNY...and I must admit - I do get some good laughs here...
Especially when kids that have no clue try to tell me thing or two...
So, here we are about INSULIN...and statement that - I am not using only insulin - because - I simply MUST USE something else as well...
After all - I am IFBB PRO so in all probability - I am doing what big guys do...? ::)
Hmmmmm?
Fact that I was under 2 years investigation in Federal case - when IF tested positive FOR ANYTHING could and will put me in jail is also not good enough reason to believe that I am at least that smart NOT TO TAKE THE CHANCE....But, off course some of you would still say - whatever...he is doing it for sure...
Are you guys FOR SURE?
Do you want to put money where your mouth is? Really?
It could be arranged VERY EASILY.
Now, did you ever notice my size in last few pics?
Since than I am considerably smaller - but still in shape...as I am doing ONLY WHAT I FIND NECESSARY AT THIS STAGE...as always - I was ONLY USING ANABOLICS WHEN NEEDED...and amounts needed (which is A SMALL FRACTION of what people think...or gh15 reccomands).
I will also challenge gh15 to bring me two identical twin brothers - and he could do whatever he wants with one - but I would train his twin - using only insulin and my methods of training, supplementation and dieting...and I guarantee that my twin will be in every sense physically (off course and mentally - but that's irrelevant in this situation) SUPERIOR...
Now, I am late for legs...got to go...Oooops
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BUT - I mean to tell you that I am NOT THE ONLY PRO with normal testosterone levels after decades of juicing - I know MANY....and I do mean - MANY.
Well, OK. I guess I'll have to take your word for it. However like you say here in the qfac column I quoted...
Maaaany bodybuilders have that problem and surely we all know why we have that problem. Our HPTA gets screwed up for some strange, medically unknown reason.
... it's a problem for most and will require quite extensive therapy to restore fully. I don't know if steroid dosage has that much to do with it since even the Olympia cycles you posted will shut you down fully.
A very standard moderate dose cycle can cause recovery problems which can take a couple of years to recover fully from, even if you do clomid etc. That's why you may need the HMG/HCG/Clomid stack you talked about.
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Fact that I was under 2 years investigation in Federal case - when IF tested positive FOR ANYTHING could and will put me in jail is also not good enough reason to believe that I am at least that smart NOT TO TAKE THE CHANCE....But, off course some of you would still say - whatever...he is doing it for sure...
Is this the reason you have held off competing for so long?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164172.0;attach=190438;image)
Epic Synthol use.
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It funny how Milos says he is retired, but still uses anabolic steroids.
I guess its for vanity / credibilty as a drug guru.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164172.0;attach=190438;image)
Epic Synthol use.
Which part they use?
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Use Humilin R, the Humalog is too long acting. Depending on your BW 5-10 units should be fine. Just remember to take carbs immediately. 5 unit followed by 50 grams of simple carbs (carbo force works great) And don't forget to take creatine. Normally I'd say you wouldn't get to much out of creatine, but Insulin is the vehicle that shuttles the creatine into your muscles.
Just because Ron gave you blue stars doesn't make you an expert. That is the most retarded post ever and you should know better.
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Which part they use?
Milos' Bicep.
Just because Ron gave you blue stars doesn't make you an expert. That is the most retarded post ever and you should know better.
Epic Jealousy Blue Star Jealousy. I never said I was an expert, but Humalog is a quick way to end up in the ER. You've never even take insulin, so do you even have an opinion Mr. CSN MFT GHB AAS?
I knew I'd have to spell it out for a few morons that believe everything that they read. When I said "Use Humilin R, the Humalog is too long acting." it is because if you read some of the studies of the effects of insulin in regular people with normal pancreatic functions it has been shown that it can sustain elavated levels in plasma just as long as Humalin R.
Humalog is supposed to be quick and easier to control around contest time because it is supposed to start working in 10 min and drop off in 1.5 to 2hrs. which would be the case IF YOU HAVE DIABETES!!!!!!!
Actually use the drug and you'll see a difference. You get more of a steady amount with Humalin R. It like comparing suspension to enanthate. Not to mention you only have to take it twice a day as opposed to 3 to 4 times a day. If you want more sides, Humalog is great for growing guts though.
The only way to find out is to try it. It could be replace the Bee Pollen it your supplement regimen.
Bottom line is Humalog can make you very big because your peak subsides quick and you end up shooting it more, causing you to get bigger. In terms that you would understand....It's like Crack vs Cocaine, they both do the same thing but you would have to do more crack that cocaine. Milos is a trainer that get paid to train and supplement these guys. Do you think he would advocate something that would work as good but cut the frequency in half. If I was the dealer trainer I wouldn't mention that part either.
It is no secret that by using Insulin you basically use half the amount of hormones as Steroid only guys. Insulin is a powerful drug and it's like throwing the dice everytime, whether you choose to throw 2 or 4 times a day is up to you. I don't use Insulin at all anymore as diabetes runs in my family.
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dball just drop it bro, you are clearly not well read on this subject, theres plenty of us here that are, and your lack of knowledge is noticeable in this area, hence the insulting attacks on the guy when he owns you, just drop it and save some face, he is a pro after all, his knowledge should be greater, attacking him personally after hes just corrected you just makes you look bitter and to keep going after this would make you look dumb and effect your creditability, just let it go, he will keep coming all day and really unless were learning anything new about the subject the shits just getting old.
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what was your stack like back when competing? just curious.
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Forgot to mention - 2 weeks out... ;)
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ripped to shreds.
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what was your stack like back when competing? just curious.
12 weeks (3 X 4 week combos of certain androgens, certain anabolics...certain hormones of choice - never to exceed IN TOTAL what gh15 takes in ONE WEEK)
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ripped to shreds.
You are too kind - I am far away from shredded...but THANK YOU for noticing...
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You are too kind - I am far away from shredded...but THANK YOU for noticing...
could've fooled me, you look ripped and ready, what do you think you're going to compete at weight wise?
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You look great Milos
Forgive me if this was answered already, but I thought you had problems with the IFBB big wigs?
What show(s) are you planning on doing?
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Bottom line is Humalog can make you very big because your peak subsides quick and you end up shooting it more, causing you to get bigger. In terms that you would understand....It's like Crack vs Cocaine, they both do the same thing but you would have to do more crack that cocaine. Milos is a trainer that get paid to train and supplement these guys. Do you think he would advocate something that would work as good but cut the frequency in half. If I was the dealer trainer I wouldn't mention that part either.
not to break in and disrupt all the fun you guys are having, but 'honest' is right, stop while you're ahead...you don't even know how much slin costs. So you've obviously never used it before...or if you have, you got raped and it was your own fault for not doing the research.
There are no slin dealers. ahhahaha! There's mad cash in slin dealing. lol. not.
Take 30 seconds and google slin to see how much it costs...old people on welfare/SSI can afford it...it's otc in some states and canada. ::)
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not to break in and disrupt all the fun you guys are having, but 'honest' is right, stop while you're ahead...you don't even know how much slin costs. So you've obviously never used it before...or if you have, you got raped and it was your own fault for not doing the research.
There are no slin dealers. ahhahaha! There's mad cash in slin dealing. lol. not.
Take 30 seconds and google slin to see how much it costs...old people on welfare/SSI can afford it...it's otc in some states and canada. ::)
you're right about that, slin is pretty cheap, it's the other shit that costs.
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Forgot to mention - 2 weeks out... ;)
Milos wahts up with the gray hairs???????? When I saw you last year at the O in vegas, there wasnt a gray hair in sight! :)
And oh yea, good lord your in unbelievable conditioning!, ur in better condition now, than some pros are on stage
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Forgot to mention - 2 weeks out... ;)
''Im Big Your Small''
Milo's where did you get that top from?
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Yeah slin is only 20 bucks at wallgreens. BFD. Of course there is no mad cash to be made. The money is in the steroids and GH. When you trainer is your nutritionist and supplement supplier they are getting the stuff for you. Do you actually think a pro just walks into walgreens and get the stuff themselves? A certain person supplies them with their stuff not just insulin, that is why he charges so much. These guys arent just taking insulin 4 times a day but usually test prop or susp as well as the GH and IGF-1. Since they are all high frequency injectables. That is where the money is.
You seem to be stuck on peak levels, Go download some of the PDF's on Humalog and look at the graphs of the half lives you can see that even Humalog has about the same levels 12 hrs after injection. It can be debated all day, it's like comparing mustangs and camaros. Go to some of the other boards and this is widely debated. Only here at getbig, and almost everyone hangs off of Milos' nuts. Insulin has been around for along time, Milos just seemed to take it to the next level. It is obvious that he know what he is talking about, he has made some smaller guys like hide and silvio get huge, but how many of them don't have big guts now?
Garaeth, have you tried both? If so what did you like better.
Milos still looking great though, better than the guys he trains.
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Well, OK. I guess I'll have to take your word for it. However like you say here in the qfac column I quoted...... it's a problem for most and will require quite extensive therapy to restore fully. I don't know if steroid dosage has that much to do with it since even the Olympia cycles you posted will shut you down fully.
A very standard moderate dose cycle can cause recovery problems which can take a couple of years to recover fully from, even if you do clomid etc. That's why you may need the HMG/HCG/Clomid stack you talked about.
It took me 2 years with out of taking Clomaid, after reading medical books and consulting a very good MD, I realised that on of the most important think was to lower my cortisol level down as quick is possible after workouts, now my workout are short, intens and heavy I eat a big breakfast 2 1/2 hr before workout, 15 min before workout (yes I take )essential aminos then I take aminos every 30 min during my workout my post workout is double doze of aminos then in about 30 min I have a big healthy lunch with a dietary supplement which helps to lower cortisol and I take a 1 hr siesta.
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You seem to be stuck on peak levels, Go download some of the PDF's on Humalog and look at the graphs of the half lives you can see that even Humalog has about the same levels 12 hrs after injection.
Could you please link to some reference. What do you mean by "same levels 12 hours after injection"? Do you have a reference that shows Humalog to have different kinetics in people without diabetes like you say?
From knowing many guys who have used Humalog it's really only "active" for about 2 hours, for all practical purposes and intents. Yes, the tail is a bit longer (looking at a graph) but if you haven't gone hypo in the first 2 hours and have eaten up to that point you are generally "safe" after 2 hours. This is just what I've seen so don't anyone take this as advice of any kind. Stay away from it. 8)
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Milos' Bicep.
Epic Jealousy Blue Star Jealousy. I never said I was an expert, but Humalog is a quick way to end up in the ER. You've never even take insulin, so do you even have an opinion Mr. CSN MFT GHB AAS?
I knew I'd have to spell it out for a few morons that believe everything that they read. When I said "Use Humilin R, the Humalog is too long acting." it is because if you read some of the studies of the effects of insulin in regular people with normal pancreatic functions it has been shown that it can sustain elavated levels in plasma just as long as Humalin R.
Humalog is supposed to be quick and easier to control around contest time because it is supposed to start working in 10 min and drop off in 1.5 to 2hrs. which would be the case IF YOU HAVE DIABETES!!!!!!!
Actually use the drug and you'll see a difference. You get more of a steady amount with Humalin R. It like comparing suspension to enanthate. Not to mention you only have to take it twice a day as opposed to 3 to 4 times a day. If you want more sides, Humalog is great for growing guts though.
The only way to find out is to try it. It could be replace the Bee Pollen it your supplement regimen.
Bottom line is Humalog can make you very big because your peak subsides quick and you end up shooting it more, causing you to get bigger. In terms that you would understand....It's like Crack vs Cocaine, they both do the same thing but you would have to do more crack that cocaine. Milos is a trainer that get paid to train and supplement these guys. Do you think he would advocate something that would work as good but cut the frequency in half. If I was the dealer trainer I wouldn't mention that part either.
It is no secret that by using Insulin you basically use half the amount of hormones as Steroid only guys. Insulin is a powerful drug and it's like throwing the dice everytime, whether you choose to throw 2 or 4 times a day is up to you. I don't use Insulin at all anymore as diabetes runs in my family.
I'm not going to be jealous when I'm the same level as you are....an NPC AMATEUR Bodybuilder.
And as far as insulin is concerned, I've never used it as it was before my time in its popularity and I've never recommended my clients to use it neither. Too dangerous and if done incorrectly, then the user would go into diabetic shock and then you're in a world of shit. An EMS worker would most likely read the condition incorrectly and will give them another shot of insulin
Lots of people have died because of the use of insulin for bodybuilding. You just don't hear about it...just like the heart attacks.
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so milos, what do you the average pro does?
600-800 week of test, 400-600 deca, some primo, anadrol, and GH per week for 12 weeks? i know about 4 weeks out, more cutting drugs are used,,,but is the general gist?
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Milos, looking shredded by the way! where is your gym anyway?
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so milos, what do you the average pro does?
600-800 week of test, 400-600 deca, some primo, anadrol, and GH per week for 12 weeks? i know about 4 weeks out, more cutting drugs are used,,,but is the general gist?
sheeeeiiiiiiittttt, better triple or even quadruple that test dosage.
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maybe 1 gram a week of test. no way they be doin 2.
is test suspesion still popular among pros?
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sheeeeiiiiiiittttt, better triple or even quadruple that test dosage.
Maybe for some (idiots) but not the majority!
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maybe 1 gram a week of test. no way they be doin 2.
is test suspesion still popular among pros?
i'll gaurantee they all do at least 2 grams of test a week.
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i'll gaurantee they all do at least 2 grams of test a week.
I disagree, not even close.
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I disagree, not even close.
come on Joe, you honestly believe that Coleman, Cutler, Victor, Markus, DJ, etc. are all taking 750-1000mg. a week? if you believe that i've got some oceanfront land in Omaha to talk to you about.
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maybe 1 gram a week of test. no way they be doin 2.
is test suspesion still popular among pros?
I got guys in my gym doing nearly 2/week of just test, not counting anything else they're on. Of course, the main guy I'm thinking of is sitting at home moping around right now because he tore his triceps off the bone.
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come on Joe, you honestly believe that Coleman, Cutler, Victor, Markus, DJ, etc. are all taking 750-1000mg. a week? if you believe that i've got some oceanfront land in Omaha to talk to you about.
I am interested to make a purchase Squad...I love sunsets - so make sure I have a clear view...Omaha...why not...if the price is right...Ocean at the door...I am in! How much for an acre?
At least 4 out of this 5 take EXACTLY that a week...but off course - you guys would not want to believe that...as gh15 "knows" ::)
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shit gh15 is Marcus Ruhl. I am going to believe what he says!
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shit gh15 is Marcus Ruhl. I am going to believe what he says!
He is ONE out of five I was not sure about... ;)
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milos, u think he is marcus?
he says he is from europe and will be in the O. i know any loser can say that, but he sure does seem to know a hell of a lot.
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come on Joe, you honestly believe that Coleman, Cutler, Victor, Markus, DJ, etc. are all taking 750-1000mg. a week? if you believe that i've got some oceanfront land in Omaha to talk to you about.
To keep it short and simple, there is no need to be on alot once you've reached a certain level, however, like I said, there are people that will always think more is better, those are the people who don't last long. They take MUCH less than you might think.
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That "thing" behind Arvilla happened to be the overall winner that night. You have no clue how amazing that man truly is..
overall nothing. he was the light weight winner.
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I am interested to make a purchase Squad...I love sunsets - so make sure I have a clear view...Omaha...why not...if the price is right...Ocean at the door...I am in! How much for an acre?
At least 4 out of this 5 take EXACTLY that a week...but off course - you guys would not want to believe that...as gh15 "knows" ::)
Milos,
what drugs?
the only supplements the pros use are creakic, gaykic, elastic and plastic
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I'm not going to be jealous when I'm the same level as you are....an NPC AMATEUR Bodybuilder.
And as far as insulin is concerned, I've never used it as it was before my time in its popularity and I've never recommended my clients to use it neither. Too dangerous and if done incorrectly, then the user would go into diabetic shock and then you're in a world of shit. An EMS worker would most likely read the condition incorrectly and will give them another shot of insulin
Lots of people have died because of the use of insulin for bodybuilding. You just don't hear about it...just like the heart attacks.
Shut the fuck up. You know jack shit and you have no clients. Please show even one bodybuilding client you have.
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milos, u think he is marcus?
he says he is from europe and will be in the O. i know any loser can say that, but he sure does seem to know a hell of a lot.
He sure wants you to believe he knows a hell of a lot when in reality he has no clue...
Face it - most of the people would not want to believe that Ronnie, Jay, Victor, DJ...etc take the same (or often LESS) drugs than them...Most of the people would love to blame their lack of discipline, dedication, poor diet...wrong training (go heavy or go home ::))...and WEAK MINDS for being average looking while above mentioned champions look the way they do...
So, it is very funny to me that many of the 'wannabes' (gh15 and alike) would let us know the REAL SECRETS OF THE PROS...like they actually know...
Idiots like gh possibly believed amounts he mentioned - to be actually needed... ::) and as he didn't have anyone who would share the real steroid info with him - he started experimenting - and he started taking ridiculous amounts...
Soon enough as he damaged just about everything he could damage (more than obviously - including his brain...IF HE EVER HAD ONE?) - he volunteered the information to masses - as "misery loves company" and IF he is going down - so should others....
I was asked couple of months ago what I think about "gh15 cycle recommendation" and when I read it - I was VERY DISTURBED - as amounts mentioned are prescription for a disaster...
I decided to SAVE SOME LIVES and put some sense into my getbig friends and fans (I LOVE YOU GUYS even if I sometimes act like I don't...YES, even you fatso...and all you guys that attack me - just because I am beautiful, strong, smart and Serbian...well maybe not beautiful or strong - but at least I have killer arms...)
Anyway...I posted amounts that SMART PROS USE - and most of you jumped on me calling me a lier????
Now, there are many, many.....MANY guys that came to me for a program - and all of them can confirm "my cycles" as I didn't change my mind ever since I started using and/or reccomanding...
Like I said: USING STEROIDS is one thing (I believe - very positive, CONSTRUCTIVE...GOOD by all means /I know I will be crucified for this statement - but whoever considers the facts - will understand WHAT I MEAN/...
ABUSING STEROIDS is something completely different - and AS MANY "IDIOTS" (like gh15 and his boys) take waaaaaaaaaaaay to much and way toooooooooooooo many AS for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooooo loooooooooooooong - they turn something that could be good and HEALTHY (yes - healthy...as AGAIN: anabolic steroids are medicaments used mostly in treatment of critically catabolic patients...) into something BAD!
Promoting CONSTRUCTIVE METABOLISM (anabolic and anti-catabolic action of these "drugs" could/should be used MUCH MORE OFTEN in medical practices - and I am convinced that ONE OF THESE DAYS - doctors will realize that many conditions could be reversed by administration of even modest amounts of these drugs...but that's another story) - is certainly good thing but abusing even the best things (including drinking water) could and eventually WILL - KILL YOU...
Guys - be smart and THINK...and I am sure that IF you think long enough - you'll find all the right answers...
The truth is - many guys came to me as they've seen incredibly fast progress of the guys I prepare - so everyone BEFORE coming to see me - believed that I am doing "something special"...Some exciting, exotic, never before seen supplement (or drug) taken in HUGE amounts without ever taking a break...or having team of medical doctors injecting who knows what on daily bases...while at night we would be hooked on IV drip... ::)
As I started: "the truth is" - first thing they would say after I give them my recommendations is: " ARE YOU SERIOUS?"
Or " you mean PER DAY - certainly NOT PER WEEK...RIGHT?"
I am telling you again that our Olympia contenders ARE indeed on less drugs than NOVICE DIVISION competitors at the Orange County Muscle Classic...You want to believe me (with LONG list of pros I am working with in the past decade or so) or someone who can't even post under his real name claiming that he lives with Elvis, have a brain, three balls (all 3 implants as he lost what he had and couldn't remember how many he suppose to have so he SWEARS /and NEVER LIES ::)/ that he indeed had three since he was born...etc...etc...
Do the math
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i am going to have to agree with Milos!
great post man!
i also believe Priest in saying he only uses like 400 deca, primo, and a few others, and thats it.
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He sure wants you to believe he knows a hell of a lot when in reality he has no clue...
Face it - most of the people would not want to believe that Ronnie, Jay, Victor, DJ...etc take the same (or often LESS) drugs than them...Most of the people would love to blame their lack of discipline, dedication, poor diet...wrong training (go heavy or go home ::))...and WEAK MINDS for being average looking while above mentioned champions look the way they do...
So, it is very funny to me that many of the 'wannabes' (gh15 and alike) would let us know the REAL SECRETS OF THE PROS...like they actually know...
Idiots like gh possibly believed amounts he mentioned to be needed and as he didn't have anyone who would share the info with him he started experimenting - and he started taking ridiculous amounts...and soon enough as he damaged just about everything he could damage (more than obviously - including his brain...IF HE EVER HAD ONE?) - he volunteered the information to masses - as "misery loves company" and IF he is going down - so should others....
I was asked couple of months ago what I think about "gh15 cycle recommendation" and when I read it - I was VERY DISTURBED - as amounts mentioned are prescription for a disaster...
I decided to SAVE SOME LIVES and put some sense into my getbig friends and fans (I LOVE YOU GUYS even if I sometimes act like I don't...YES, even you fatso...and all you guys that attack me - just because I am beautiful, strong, smart and Serbian...well maybe not beautiful or strong - but at least I have killer arms...)
Anyway...I posted amounts that SMART PROS USE - and most of you jumped on me calling me a lier????
Now, there are many, many.....MANY guys that came to me for a program - and all of them can confirm "my cycles" as I didn't change my mind ever since I started using and/or reccomanding...
Like I said: USING STEROIDS is one thing (I believe - very positive, CONSTRUCTIVE...GOOD by all means /I know I will be crucified for this statement - but whoever considers the facts - will understand WHAT I MEAN/...
ABUSING STEROIDS is something completely different - and AS MANY "IDIOTS" (like gh15 and his boys) take waaaaaaaaaaaay to much and way toooooooooooooo many AS for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooooo loooooooooooooong - they turn something that could be good and HEALTHY (yes - healthy...as AGAIN: anabolic steroids are medicaments used mostly in treatment of critically catabolic patients...
Promoting CONSTRUCTIVE METABOLISM (anabolic and anti-catabolic action of these "drugs" could/should be used MUCH MORE OFTEN in medical practices - and I am convinced that ONE OF THESE DAYS - doctors will realize that many conditions could be reversed by administration of even modest amounts of these drugs...but that's another story) - is certainly good thing but abusing even the best things (including drinking water) could and eventually WILL - KILL YOU...
Guys - be smart and THINK...and I am sure that IF you think long enough - you'll find all the right answers...
The truth is - many guys came to me as they've seen incredibly fast progress of the guys I prepare - so everyone BEFORE coming to see me - believed that I am doing "something special"...Some exciting, exotic, never before seen supplement (or drug) taken in HUGE amounts without ever taking a break...or having team of medical doctors injecting who knows what on daily bases...while at night we would be hooked on IV drip... ::)
As I started: "the truth is" - first thing they would say after I give them my recommendations is: " ARE YOU SERIOUS?"
Or " you mean PER DAY - certainly NOT PER WEEK...RIGHT?"
I am telling you again that our Olympia contenders ARE indeed on less drugs than NOVICE DIVISION competitors at the Orange County Muscle Classic...You want to believe me (with LONG list of pros I am working with in the past decade or so) or someone who can't even post under his real name claiming that he lives with Elvis, have a brain, three balls (all 3 implants as he lost what he had and couldn't remember how much he suppose to have so he SWEARS /and NEVER LIES ::)/ that he indeed had three since he was born...etc...etc...
Do the math
Milos, all that is fine and dandy, but let me ask you this: if you are so very health conscious and always had that priority then how come you did the IV plasma expander drip for the Olympia? Without knowing what the ramifications would be. How come you bought an unknown secret diuretic from Chad? You took a diuretic you couldn't even identify and therefore put your life into someone else's hands. How come you decided to shoot a lot of Synthol into your body when the long term consequences are unknown? How come you were experimenting with both long and short acting insulins and going hypo frequently? How come you overdosed on transdermal thyroid hormones and hadn't done your research on how much goes into circulation? Did you also have that weak mindset and lacking discipline?
So you certainly had that kamikaze attitude many times during your career. If gh15 is a fool then you were at one point also.
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He sure wants you to believe he knows a hell of a lot when in reality he has no clue...
Face it - most of the people would not want to believe that Ronnie, Jay, Victor, DJ...etc take the same (or often LESS) drugs than them...Most of the people would love to blame their lack of discipline, dedication, poor diet...wrong training (go heavy or go home ::))...and WEAK MINDS for being average looking while above mentioned champions look the way they do...
So, it is very funny to me that many of the 'wannabes' (gh15 and alike) would let us know the REAL SECRETS OF THE PROS...like they actually know...
Idiots like gh possibly believed amounts he mentioned - to be actually needed... ::) and as he didn't have anyone who would share the real steroid info with him - he started experimenting - and he started taking ridiculous amounts...
Soon enough as he damaged just about everything he could damage (more than obviously - including his brain...IF HE EVER HAD ONE?) - he volunteered the information to masses - as "misery loves company" and IF he is going down - so should others....
I was asked couple of months ago what I think about "gh15 cycle recommendation" and when I read it - I was VERY DISTURBED - as amounts mentioned are prescription for a disaster...
I decided to SAVE SOME LIVES and put some sense into my getbig friends and fans (I LOVE YOU GUYS even if I sometimes act like I don't...YES, even you fatso...and all you guys that attack me - just because I am beautiful, strong, smart and Serbian...well maybe not beautiful or strong - but at least I have killer arms...)
Anyway...I posted amounts that SMART PROS USE - and most of you jumped on me calling me a lier????
Now, there are many, many.....MANY guys that came to me for a program - and all of them can confirm "my cycles" as I didn't change my mind ever since I started using and/or reccomanding...
Like I said: USING STEROIDS is one thing (I believe - very positive, CONSTRUCTIVE...GOOD by all means /I know I will be crucified for this statement - but whoever considers the facts - will understand WHAT I MEAN/...
ABUSING STEROIDS is something completely different - and AS MANY "IDIOTS" (like gh15 and his boys) take waaaaaaaaaaaay to much and way toooooooooooooo many AS for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooooo loooooooooooooong - they turn something that could be good and HEALTHY (yes - healthy...as AGAIN: anabolic steroids are medicaments used mostly in treatment of critically catabolic patients...) into something BAD!
Promoting CONSTRUCTIVE METABOLISM (anabolic and anti-catabolic action of these "drugs" could/should be used MUCH MORE OFTEN in medical practices - and I am convinced that ONE OF THESE DAYS - doctors will realize that many conditions could be reversed by administration of even modest amounts of these drugs...but that's another story) - is certainly good thing but abusing even the best things (including drinking water) could and eventually WILL - KILL YOU...
Guys - be smart and THINK...and I am sure that IF you think long enough - you'll find all the right answers...
The truth is - many guys came to me as they've seen incredibly fast progress of the guys I prepare - so everyone BEFORE coming to see me - believed that I am doing "something special"...Some exciting, exotic, never before seen supplement (or drug) taken in HUGE amounts without ever taking a break...or having team of medical doctors injecting who knows what on daily bases...while at night we would be hooked on IV drip... ::)
As I started: "the truth is" - first thing they would say after I give them my recommendations is: " ARE YOU SERIOUS?"
Or " you mean PER DAY - certainly NOT PER WEEK...RIGHT?"
I am telling you again that our Olympia contenders ARE indeed on less drugs than NOVICE DIVISION competitors at the Orange County Muscle Classic...You want to believe me (with LONG list of pros I am working with in the past decade or so) or someone who can't even post under his real name claiming that he lives with Elvis, have a brain, three balls (all 3 implants as he lost what he had and couldn't remember how much he suppose to have so he SWEARS /and NEVER LIES ::)/ that he indeed had three since he was born...etc...etc...
Do the math
Milos, given that what you are saying is true (that today's top pros take very reasonable amounts of androgenics, steroids and hormones), could you explain why nowadays we see so many bloated stomachs and distended guts (also among those pros you mentioned)?
It seems that something that wasn't happening in the 70's and 80's is going on...
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i am going to have to agree with Milos!
great post man!
i also believe Priest in saying he only uses like 400 deca, primo, and a few others, and thats it.
Per minute?
Just kidding...I talked to Lee and he told me that besides Viagra and Preparation H he doesn't take much else..
Well, I didn't share with him that my snake oil also makes people grow taller...if they are under 4 feet tall (and he certainly belongs to that group...I think?)
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Per minute?
Just kidding...I talked to Lee and he told me that besides Viagra and Preparation H he doesn't take much else..
Well, I didn't share with him that my snake oil also makes people grow taller...if they are under 4 feet tall (and he certainly belongs to that group...I think?)
Will Lee be the first sponsored athlete for Snake OilTM?
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Eseclin was a better and safer than Syntol.
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Milos, all that is fine and dandy, but let me ask you this: if you are so very health conscious and always had that priority then how come you did the IV plasma expander drip for the Olympia? Without knowing what the ramifications would be. How come you bought an unknown secret diuretic from Chad? You took a diuretic you couldn't even identify and therefore put your life into someone else's hands. How come you decided to shoot a lot of Synthol into your body when the long term consequences are unknown? How come you were experimenting with both long and short acting insulins and going hypo frequently? How come you overdosed on transdermal thyroid hormones and hadn't done your research on how much goes into circulation? Did you also have that weak mindset and lacking discipline?
So you certainly had that kamikaze attitude many times during your career. If gh15 is a fool then you were at one point also.
Fair enough.
As I used my example many times to expose MY MISTAKES and have OTHERS LEARN "at my expense" I voluntarily talked about EACH and EVERY MISTAKE I MADE before and I will do it again...
I even agreed to do FLEX article making myself a target and sticking a label 'meathead' right on my forehead...
So, let me at least emphasise again - that ALL MY EMBERASSING MISTAKES I did not keep as a secrets - so I could SAVE some of you...I am glad that you (and hopefully some others REMEMBERED what I did).
If you really want the answer:
#1) PLASMA EXPANDERS - I did hear about it from Chad - and his info was actually wrong...As we talked on the phone he was mentioning something about hydrostatic pressure, oncotic pressure, molecular weight of the expanders...and few other things that just didn't make sense...and as I asked him details - he confirmed that his osmotic diuretic (manitol) is "specially made" and different than one in Pharmacies...
I did what he reccomanded (in Canada 1998) and looked great 30 minutes before prejudging...until I went backstage and I started spilling big time...
After the contest I consulted him again - and in our phone conversation he AGAIN mentioned details about different pressures in human body that was incorrect (if you consult any textbook physiology and/or pharmacology)...As I was confused and asked him AGAIN - he simply added that I did everything right but I didn't have that special manitol...
Anyway, I used manitol found in US Pharmacy - and similar thing happened - I started spilling after I left my hotel room - on the way to prejudging...
[Just to mention in first show 1998 in San Francisco - using MY DIURETIC not on IFBB list at the time "Xipamide" I managed to beat Mike Matarazzo who easily made top three in the next two weeks - loosing only to Kevin and Ronnie...I placed 7th in Canada and 11th at the NOC - after winning and being runner-up year before]
By 1999 I managed to figure plasma expanders out - and used it few more times (Ironman 1999 and Arnold Classic for example...but MY WAY...and still I would NOT reccomend it to anyone - IT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT).
#2) Diuretic that Chad used with everyone was SUPER EFFECTIVE - and that's why I used it...but the fact is - the only way to get it is IF he comes in the room and mix it in your glass - and you have to drink it in front of him...So, I had a choice to make: either that way or no way at all...
I still remember that he was talking about "mercurial base" diuretic...pulled of the US market...and after I told him that mercurial diuretics were replaced and more importantly KIDNEY-KILLERS (pulled out of the Rx market due to their EXTREME renal toxicity) - he answered that his diuretic is "modified mercurial"...and my answer to that was: atomic bomb is even more dangerous if modified...
#3) Synthol issue I discussed already so many times...so I'll pass this time Randy and Gonzaga are about to START...
#4) Insulin experiments I had to do MYSELF as nobody knew how to do it...and I found the way that even doctors agreed - COULD BE SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE...On that maybe later...
#5) Transdermal thyroid - was my last mistake - as I forgot to think about how women look (and think) about little cream they need to apply.
Obviously my wife thought it was a moisturiser and not a THYROID MEDICATION...and as she was applying on my back and glutes (yes glutes...and somehow I didn't mind her rubbing that cream forever ::)) - I overlooked the possibility of using TOO MUCH - which ended up happening...
So there you have it...I made many mistakes in my life - and admit them all...
Now, I am also trying to STOP YOU ALL FROM making even bigger mistake - and listen to gh15...Please THINK ABOUT IT!
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I still remember that he was talking about "mercurial base" diuretic...pulled of the US market...and after I told him that mercurial diuretics were replaced and more importantly KIDNEY-KILLERS (pulled out of the Rx market due to their EXTREME renal toxicity) - he answered that his diuretic is "modified mercurial"...
Are you saying The Chad is a kidney thief?? :o
I'm shocked.... shocked I say! ;D
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brutal honesty Milos
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''Im Big Your Small''
Milo's where did you get that top from?
You forgot: "Have a Nice Day" under that smiley
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Could you please link to some reference. What do you mean by "same levels 12 hours after injection"? Do you have a reference that shows Humalog to have different kinetics in people without diabetes like you say?
From knowing many guys who have used Humalog it's really only "active" for about 2 hours, for all practical purposes and intents. Yes, the tail is a bit longer (looking at a graph) but if you haven't gone hypo in the first 2 hours and have eaten up to that point you are generally "safe" after 2 hours. This is just what I've seen so don't anyone take this as advice of any kind. Stay away from it. 8)
Let me look for it and I will post it, as well as some links to other forums as well. You are correct though what you see on the graphs is the tail (which shows that it does stay in your system as long as Humulin R), however each individual has a different level of insulin sensitivity. That is why I recommend that you try out the insulin and see what works best for you. I was originally told that Humalog was the way to go to and it made me fat. But it may work differently with you. The point I was getting at was you cant just go with a blanket statement that one type is better than the other, you have to try them out and make your own decision.
Be safe and start out slow.
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RANDY COUTURE...what a guy!
Now - he is one year older than me...Watch me next year...I am coming back to win few more shows before I retire...at the age of 80.
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Let me look for it and I will post it, as well as some links to other forums as well. You are correct though what you see on the graphs is the tail (which shows that it does stay in your system as long as Humulin R), however each individual has a different level of insulin sensitivity. That is why I recommend that you try out the insulin and see what works best for you. I was originally told that Humalog was the way to go to and it made me fat. But it may work differently with you. The point I was getting at was you cant just go with a blanket statement that one type is better than the other, you have to try them out and make your own decision.
Be safe and start out slow.
You should not recommend anything to any body, we have teenagers on this site
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RANDY COUTURE...what a guy!
Now - he is one year older than me...Watch me next year...I am coming back to win few more shows before I retire...at the age of 80.
Do you know any current pros who are likely to make it to age 80? ::)
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Do you know any current pros who are likely to make it to age 80? ::)
Jocelyn Peltier (sp) you know, the guy that's always last, the little dude ::)
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Do you know any current pros who are likely to make it to age 80? ::)
MOST...if not all... ;)
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Milos, what did Chad charge for that magic cup of diuretic that you had to drink in front of him?
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You should not recommend anything to any body, we have teenagers on this site
Dballn247 is a ficticious character, all statement are made for entertainment purposes. No pros were harmed in conception of this post.
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Milos, what did Chad charge for that magic cup of diuretic that you had to drink in front of him?
500 bucks if i remember correctly LOL
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Fair enough.
As I used my example many times to expose MY MISTAKES and have OTHERS LEARN "at my expense" I voluntarily talked about EACH and EVERY MISTAKE I MADE before and I will do it again...
Now, I am also trying to STOP YOU ALL FROM making even bigger mistake - and listen to gh15...Please THINK ABOUT IT!
much respect for doing this....
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Fair enough.
As I used my example many times to expose MY MISTAKES and have OTHERS LEARN "at my expense" I voluntarily talked about EACH and EVERY MISTAKE I MADE before and I will do it again...
I even agreed to do FLEX article making myself a target and sticking a label 'meathead' right on my forehead...
So, let me at least emphasise again - that ALL MY EMBERASSING MISTAKES I did not keep as a secrets - so I could SAVE some of you...I am glad that you (and hopefully some others REMEMBERED what I did).
If you really want the answer:
#1) PLASMA EXPANDERS - I did hear about it from Chad - and his info was actually wrong...As we talked on the phone he was mentioning something about hydrostatic pressure, oncotic pressure, molecular weight of the expanders...and few other things that just didn't make sense...and as I asked him details - he confirmed that his osmotic diuretic (manitol) is "specially made" and different than one in Pharmacies...
I did what he reccomanded (in Canada 1998) and looked great 30 minutes before prejudging...until I went backstage and I started spilling big time...
After the contest I consulted him again - and in our phone conversation he AGAIN mentioned details about different pressures in human body that was incorrect (if you consult any textbook physiology and/or pharmacology)...As I was confused and asked him AGAIN - he simply added that I did everything right but I didn't have that special manitol...
Anyway, I used manitol found in US Pharmacy - and similar thing happened - I started spilling after I left my hotel room - on the way to prejudging...
[Just to mention in first show 1998 in San Francisco - using MY DIURETIC not on IFBB list at the time "Xipamide" I managed to beat Mike Matarazzo who easily made top three in the next two weeks - loosing only to Kevin and Ronnie...I placed 7th in Canada and 11th at the NOC - after winning and being runner-up year before]
By 1999 I managed to figure plasma expanders out - and used it few more times (Ironman 1999 and Arnold Classic for example...but MY WAY...and still I would NOT reccomend it to anyone - IT IS JUST NOT WORTH IT).
#2) Diuretic that Chad used with everyone was SUPER EFFECTIVE - and that's why I used it...but the fact is - the only way to get it is IF he comes in the room and mix it in your glass - and you have to drink it in front of him...So, I had a choice to make: either that way or no way at all...
I still remember that he was talking about "mercurial base" diuretic...pulled of the US market...and after I told him that mercurial diuretics were replaced and more importantly KIDNEY-KILLERS (pulled out of the Rx market due to their EXTREME renal toxicity) - he answered that his diuretic is "modified mercurial"...and my answer to that was: atomic bomb is even more dangerous if modified...
#3) Synthol issue I discussed already so many times...so I'll pass this time Randy and Gonzaga are about to START...
#4) Insulin experiments I had to do MYSELF as nobody knew how to do it...and I found the way that even doctors agreed - COULD BE SAFE and VERY EFFECTIVE...On that maybe later...
#5) Transdermal thyroid - was my last mistake - as I forgot to think about how women look (and think) about little cream they need to apply.
Obviously my wife thought it was a moisturiser and not a THYROID MEDICATION...and as she was applying on my back and glutes (yes glutes...and somehow I didn't mind her rubbing that cream forever ::)) - I overlooked the possibility of using TOO MUCH - which ended up happening...
So there you have it...I made many mistakes in my life - and admit them all...
Now, I am also trying to STOP YOU ALL FROM making even bigger mistake - and listen to gh15...Please THINK ABOUT IT!
honest, i like that not enough of it these days
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honest, i like that not enough of it these days
Milos is a good man.
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MOST...if not all... ;)
You're a funny guy, Milos. ;D
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Milos i believe you totally, and thank you for telling the truth to the guys on here it will be probably lost on them, but theres a few of us here that appreciate your honesty, but it will be easier for them to believer that the reason they are not doing the olympia is because they arent doing the mgs.
:)
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Milos i believe you totally, and thank you for telling the truth to the guys on here it will be probably lost on them, but theres a few of us here that appreciate your honesty, but it will be easier for them to believer that the reason they are not doing the olympia is because they arent doing the mgs.
:)
Sad truth is - when I have met some pros - they were doing EVEN LESS drugs than what I reccomand..
I know at least 5 Olympia competitors who would never go over 350 mg of TEST a week...and another 5 who would max at 500mg a week...plus same amounts of "anabolic of choice"...
When I suggested 750 to couple (one close to 300lbs) they were scared shitless...
Now - I don't talk to Shawn (for example) and I really don't know his cycles exactly...but I am sure - nobody would beleive him IF he said what was his biggest cycle - ever...
If I have to guess - it would have been: 6 months ON, 6 months OFF...Starting with maybe 500mg test + 500 mg deca for 6 weeks...than adding 30 (or 50 mg D-bol) and closer to the show switching from deca to EQ...from EQ to Winstrol....plus last 10 weeks GH...
14 TIMES TOP 5 Olympia competitor...Short, spoiled and ugly...but that's another story ;).
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Eseclin was a better and safer than Syntol.
Esiclene was great.. :'(
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brutal honesty Milos
What everyone fails to realize: AS ALWAYS (brutal honesty)! ;)
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You're a funny guy, Milos. ;D
I am a funny guy...or smart clairvoyant?
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No kidding...
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Jocelyn Peltier (sp) you know, the guy that's always last, the little dude ::)
And knowing Jocelyn - he'll be on that stage - just as good... for years to come... ;D
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Milos, looking shredded by the way! where is your gym anyway?
1101 South Placentia Avenue
Fullerton, CA 92831
714/680-8881
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14 TIMES TOP 5 Olympia competitor...Short, spoiled and ugly...but that's another story ;).
hahaha great physique, but yeah, shawn is an ugly mofo.
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What everyone fails to realize: AS ALWAYS (brutal honesty)! ;)
Hey mad man. I dont kiss your ass FOREVER.
But, I appriciate your honesty.
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14 TIMES TOP 5 Olympia competitor...Short, spoiled and ugly...but that's another story ;).
Hahahaha ;D
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1101 South Placentia Avenue
Fullerton, CA 92831
714/680-8881
Thats the place where my tshirts came from! The only Koloseum Gym shirts in chile i guess :)
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milos you are one of the best bodies ever in the ifbb !
there is a guy in my gym who says he is your cousin ..........in new york his name is john
do u know him ...... ::)
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Sad truth is - when I have met some pros - they were doing EVEN LESS drugs than what I reccomand..
I know at least 5 Olympia competitors who would never go over 350 mg of TEST a week...and another 5 who would max at 500mg a week...plus same amounts of "anabolic of choice"...
When I suggested 750 to couple (one close to 300lbs) they were scared shitless...
Now - I don't talk to Shawn (for example) and I really don't know his cycles exactly...but I am sure - nobody would beleive him IF he said what was his biggest cycle - ever...
If I have to guess - it would have been: 6 months ON, 6 months OFF...Starting with maybe 500mg test + 500 mg deca for 6 weeks...than adding 30 (or 50 mg D-bol) and closer to the show switching from deca to EQ...from EQ to Winstrol....plus last 10 weeks GH...
14 TIMES TOP 5 Olympia competitor...Short, spoiled and ugly...but that's another story ;).
greatest post ever! probably as close to shawn's real cycle as well will ever know. If people don;t believe this, is that most pros are getting REAL good quality gear.
shawn, any comments? close?
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Shawn maybe a douche, but ugly? ???
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Shawn maybe a douche, but ugly? ???
Are you speaking about inside or out?
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Are you speaking about inside or out?
Oh.. :D
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Sad truth is - when I have met some pros - they were doing EVEN LESS drugs than what I reccomand..
I know at least 5 Olympia competitors who would never go over 350 mg of TEST a week...and another 5 who would max at 500mg a week...plus same amounts of "anabolic of choice"...
When I suggested 750 to couple (one close to 300lbs) they were scared shitless...
Now - I don't talk to Shawn (for example) and I really don't know his cycles exactly...but I am sure - nobody would beleive him IF he said what was his biggest cycle - ever...
If I have to guess - it would have been: 6 months ON, 6 months OFF...Starting with maybe 500mg test + 500 mg deca for 6 weeks...than adding 30 (or 50 mg D-bol) and closer to the show switching from deca to EQ...from EQ to Winstrol....plus last 10 weeks GH...
14 TIMES TOP 5 Olympia competitor...Short, spoiled and ugly...but that's another story ;).
Insulin is some potent stuff.
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Insulin is some potent stuff.
Shawn, who he is talking about, never touched it though. According to Milos. So that wouldn't be the reason Shawn responded so well to a moderate stack like that.
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what have we learnt from this marathon thread?
milos seems like a very quick witted and funny guy. honest, a beautiful family, one of the very best physiques i've ever seen on a guy his age... 8)
u]BUT A DAMNED LIAR!!! [/u]
i'm sorry, but there is no way on god's earth that the man displayed in the cable cross-over is taking JUST insulin and no other anabolics. milos' skin colour and other features, not least of which his incredible mass indicate otherwise. no way, no how...not all by itself.
but i've thought about it and what he has said here is all starting to fit together.
milos believes use of male hormones can be healthy and milos wants to be healthy of course...and massive :)...and... not living in a prison cell. :'(
i didn't know milos might still be under the far reaching gaze of the DEA, which is probably why he has repeatedly offered himself to be tested, because he is very confident that he will pass the test. where there's a will there's a way and even the ioc has admitted that they CAN NOT keep up with banned peds. ;)
politics is power and vice vera. criminal laws have often (throughout history) been created to suit the powerful and the ioc is very powerful ie anabolic steroids are not only banned in sports organisations but banned in everyday life too, but as megalomania is a human condition so is individualism and free choice. simply, there are those who want to control and those that don't want to be controlled (they tend to clash personality wise ;D).
in short, i believe milos is the latter (bless him) and, although he wants to be as honest as he can be about this subject, he knows that guys like shawn hate are waiting in the wings for a tidbit of information that they can take (again) to the authorities. you see, mr hate doesn't belong to either group (far too spineless for that), he belongs to a third group, the controlled, and part of this group's nature is to be extremely jealous of the group that milos belongs too.
so, basically, while guys from the other 2 groups are around milos will remain a little coy because he values his freedom and his family. :)
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Insulin is some potent stuff.
Sorry, I wasn't referring to Shawn, I know Shawn didn't use insulin. I was referring to the reletively low dosages of gear and that the insulin makes up for what might be lacking.
As a matter of fact, I know Shawn didn't that much at all.
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what have we learnt from this marathon thread?
milos seems like a very quick witted and funny guy. honest, a beautiful family, one of the very best physiques i've ever seen on a guy his age... 8)
u]BUT A DAMNED LIAR!!! [/u]
i'm sorry, but there is no way on god's earth that the man displayed in the cable cross-over is taking JUST insulin and no other anabolics. milos' skin colour and other features, not least of which his incredible mass indicate otherwise. no way, no how...not all by itself.
so, basically, while guys from the other 2 groups are around milos will remain a little coy because he values his freedom and his family. :)
You're sure about this huh?
Look, the only thing that I disagree with when it comes to Milos is the use of insulin in reguard to the effects it's had on the change of the BBing industry. We've briefly discussed this and he know's how I feel about the insulin, IMO BBing has taken the wrong turn. But as far as him lying?.........I don't think so.
He's been very forthcoming in all of his posts when it come to the usage of anything. Insulin the a very powerful hormone and could easily take the place of gear in HIS case. Back in the mid seventies and early eighties, most would discontinue the use of any androgens for the sole purpose of getting shredded before a show, of course when the size game came along and more was learned, then pre-contest compounds changed.
That being said, hell yes it's possible to be as cut as Milos with insulin only!!
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You're sure about this huh?
Look, the only thing that I disagree with when it comes to Milos is the use of insulin in reguard to the effects it's had on the change of the BBing industry. We've briefly discussed this and he know's how I feel about the insulin, IMO BBing has taken the wrong turn. But as far as him lying?.........I don't think so.
He's been very forthcoming in all of his posts when it come to the usage of anything. Insulin the a very powerful hormone and could easily take the place of gear in HIS case. Back in the mid seventies and early eighties, most would discontinue the use of any androgens for the sole purpose of getting shredded before a show, of course when the size game came along and more was learned, then pre-contest compounds changed.
That being said, hell yes it's possible to be as cut as Milos with insulin only!!
wtf is your point ???
you say that 70's and 80's guys went off androgens.
news to me. :o
so guys went off dballs, tren, anap, anivar, halo to get shredded did they? ::)
btw, milos is not just saying he's off androgens stupid. he's saying he's off everything...including anabolics and gh.
so how exactly does insulin by itself make milos look that big and that shredded einstein? let me guess, you can't explain this one either, right? ;D here's a thought. why not try a nice cold glass of STFU on subjects you know nothing about. ;) what you did in the 70's and 80's was the same shit everyone else was doing in the 70's and 80's. take shit 'til your eyes go yellow and then taper off a little.
i'm sorry joe, but just because you were a sheep then, doesn't mean you are knowledgeable now and being milos' cheerleader aint going to make it any better for you i'm afraid. just means you're still a sheep :-[.
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wtf is your point ???
you say that 70's and 80's guys went off androgens.
news to me. :o
so guys went off dballs, tren, anap, anivar, halo to get shredded did they? ::)
btw, milos is not just saying he's off androgens stupid. he's saying he's off everything...including anabolics and gh.
so how exactly does insulin by itself make milos look that big and that shredded einstein? let me guess, you can't explain this one either, right? ;D here's a thought. why not try a nice cold glass of STFU on subjects you know nothing about. ;) what you did in the 70's and 80's was the same shit everyone else was doing in the 70's and 80's. take shit 'til your eyes go yellow and then taper off a little.
i'm sorry joe, but just because you were a sheep then, doesn't mean you are knowledgeable now and being milos' cheerleader aint going to make it any better for you i'm afraid. just means you're still a sheep :-[.
"That being said, hell yes it's possible to be as cut as Milos with insulin only!!"
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"That being said, hell yes it's possible to be as cut as Milos with insulin only!!"
care to explain?
thought not... ::)
i've said it before and i'll say it agin, anyone that pays you for advice on bbing is being defrauded in a very bad way.
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Insulin is some potent stuff.
Only - the most anabolic hormone...
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Shawn, who he is talking about, never touched it though. According to Milos. So that wouldn't be the reason Shawn responded so well to a moderate stack like that.
Exactly...I really don't think Shawn ever touched it (insulin, bible, girls...and few other things...).
Well, on the serious note - he never used insulin...
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so Milos,,you are only using slin?
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Only - the most anabolic hormone...
Milos, exactly what kind of physique are you saying can be built on insulin alone?
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care to explain?
thought not... ::)
i've said it before and i'll say it agin, anyone that pays you for advice on bbing is being defrauded in a very bad way.
It's Sunday, just because I don't answer your post right away doesn't mean I don't have better things to do.
Since Insulin is a potent ANABOLIC not much else if anything else would be needed to be as cut as Milos is and my point to all of this is, way back when when competitors were actually getting SHREDDED, they would usually cut out all androgen's. And it's not surprising that's it's "new to you"!!
So far you called me not knowledgable and a fraud, You said Milos was basically full of shit and lier........that being said, you must be a genius and the be all to end all........please share you're wisdom with us oh great one!!
What is YOUR competitive background, what makes you an expert, how long have you been in and around the industry.........another words, WTF, qualifies you to say everyone is wrong and your right? As much as you THINK you know, BBing is mostly trail and error and NOTHING is an exact, what works for some might not work for the other.
You're criticisms make YOU look like the idiot!
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MELTDOWN ;D
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No question about that Insulin works, the problem is the expansion of the stomach, would be nice if on of this BB nutrition manufacturing company's would put up $$$$$$$ to conduct a controlled studie on bb-ers and use of Insulin.
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It's Sunday, just because I don't answer your post right away doesn't mean I don't have better things to do.
Since Insulin is a potent ANABOLIC not much else if anything else would be needed to be as cut as Milos is and my point to all of this is, way back when when competitors were actually getting SHREDDED, they would usually cut out all androgen's. And it's not surprising that's it's "new to you"!!
So far you called me not knowledgable and a fraud, You said Milos was basically full of shit and lier........that being said, you must be a genius and the be all to end all........please share you're wisdom with us oh great one!!
What is YOUR competitive background, what makes you an expert, how long have you been in and around the industry.........another words, WTF, qualifies you to say everyone is wrong and your right? As much as you THINK you know, BBing is mostly trail and error and NOTHING is an exact, what works for some might not work for the other.
You're criticisms make YOU look like the idiot!
i don't know much, but i know enough to know that you're full of shit.
1. all the anabolics i listed were used 70's and 80's to get shredded and ALL are androgenic.
2. you make grandiose statements on how you know milos can be huge and shredded in his 40s on just insulin but you STILL can't tell me how you came to that conclusion.
i'm glad you've found a knew master to follow, but at least go and find out at least the theory of how before you make your assertions.
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better than being an ironing board without abs :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28115.0;attach=102175;image)(http://tm-mwgl.com/original/a067cc30.jpg)
BOTH ARVILLA AND MILOS HAVE TINY, TINY, DI*KS. :'( :'( :'(
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No question about that Insulin works, the problem is the expansion of the stomach, would be nice if on of this BB nutrition manufacturing company's would put up $$$$$$$ to conduct a controlled studie on bb-ers and use of Insulin.
This is one part of a case study that I posted awhile ago and refer back to every so often.........
Polypharmacy
Drug use by AAS users is not limited to anabolic steroids. More than 95% of AAS users admit to taking a mix of muscle-shaping drugs and accessory medications ( Table 7 ) in addition to "stacking" different types of steroids. Accessory drugs are used for a variety of reasons, such as adjuvant anabolic effects, stimulants, fat loss, and medications to combat the side effects of AAS.
Compared with previous surveys, the proportion of AAS users taking GH and insulin as adjuvant anabolic agents has increased. In a 1997 survey, 12% of steroid users reported using GH, and 2% had used insulin.[9] A striking observation from the current study is that 25% of the steroid users admit to the unsupervised use of both GH and insulin. The anabolic effects of GH on target tissues are not direct, but are the result of increased production of IGF-1 in the liver and peripheral tissues.[25] Nearly 10% of AAS users surveyed report using recombinant injectable IGF-1 preparations in their anabolic arsenal. The prevalence of IGF-1 use has not been previously documented among AAS users. In addition to the effects mediated by IGF-1, GH is a powerful stimulant of lipolysis in central and peripheral adipose cells.[12] Whereas the true effectiveness of GH as a potent anabolic substance remains in question, powerful nutrient-partitioning and fat-loss properties have been documented.[25] Long-term GH administration in normal individuals may lead to cardiac instability, hypertension, development of insulin resistance, and possibly type 2 diabetes.[25]
Unsupervised insulin regimens reported by AAS users in this study typically consisted of a fast-acting insulin (Humulin R, Humalog) formulation self-administered after a postworkout meal. Some users report using a glucometer to minimize their risk of unwanted hypoglycemic events. The anabolic effect of insulin is manifest by an artificially induced hyperinsulinemic state that increases amino acid transport into muscles inhibiting protein breakdown and stimulating overall bulk protein synthesis when in the presence of concomitant hyperaminoacidemia.[2]
The reported use of thermogenic stimulants like ephedrine, caffeine, and clenbuterol is similar to that found by a previous survey;[9] however, the use of thyroid medications to aid in fat loss has risen from 2% to more than 45%. The use of yohimbine and dinitrophenol (DNP) has not previously been documented in AAS users. Yohimbine is an α2-adrenergic receptor blocker that indirectly increases epinephrine and norepinephrine levels and functions as a fat-loss agent. DNP is a powerful uncoupling agent of oxidative metabolism that functions by inhibiting the oxidative production of adenosine triphosphate, causing a substantial increase in metabolic activity and heat production. This drastic increase in metabolic activity and heat production has led to hyperthermia and death with overdose of DNP.[18]
Accessory medications are also taken to alleviate AAS-induced side effects. Almost 100% of AAS users in our study complained of one or more side effects, and more than 95% reported taking medications to treat these effects. More than half of the participants noted taking clomiphene, antiaromatases, and tamoxifen, with nearly 40% using human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG). Clomiphene and HCG are commonly used to reverse the endogenous testosterone suppression experienced by users, in an effort to "kick start" natural hormone production at the end of a steroid cycle and reverse testicular atrophy. Tamoxifen and antiaromatase medications block or alleviate the symptoms of gynecomastia that result from the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Antiaromatases are also used to alleviate the inevitable fluid retention of heavy androgen use.
It is noteworthy that some of these "accessory" drugs are potentially much more dangerous than AAS. The unsupervised use of insulin, diuretics, stimulants, and thyroxine can precipitate a number of medical emergencies.[8] Little if any information exists with regards to the myriad of possible interactions and increased health risks of these polypharmaceutical practices. During the evaluation of a known or suspected steroid user, it is of paramount importance that the physician take a detailed drug history, keeping in mind the widespread use of these accessory medications.
Health Issues
Despite evidence that AAS users are taking increasing health risks with respect to drug megadoses, accessory medications, unsafe injection practices, and illicit drug sources, 6 out of 10 (61.4%) of steroid users surveyed indicated that they were concerned about the potential health ill effects of their AAS use. Although this may seem somewhat contradictory, it is supported by the observation that a similar proportion (64.4%) of steroid users undergo routine health checks and/or laboratory screenings. Only 37% of those surveyed, however, report discussing their AAS use with a physician. This barrier to communication between AAS users and their physicians may exist for several reasons, such as fear of legal consequences, the stigma of illegal drug use, and a perceived lack of physician knowledge regarding AAS. Nevertheless, more than 90% of steroid users surveyed noted that they would prefer to use AAS legally and under the supervision of a knowledgeable physician. It is possible that medically supervised AAS use could deter some of the emerging dangerous trends of unsupervised AAS use and possibly decrease the likelihood of preventable health complications.
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i don't know much, but i know enough to know that you're full of shit.
1. all the anabolics i listed were used 70's and 80's to get shredded and ALL are androgenic.
At least three of the drugs you mention as ALL androngenic are in fact more ANABOLIC than ANDROGENIC and without going into a 14 page detail of each drug profile, lets just make it quick and say it was MUCH more desirable to use for example ANAVAR or maybe MAXIBOLIN for pre-contest prep as opposed to dbol or anadrol.
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At least three of the drugs you mention as ALL androngenic are in fact more ANABOLIC than ANDROGENIC and without going into a 14 page detail of each drug profile, lets just make it quick and say it was MUCH more desirable to use for example ANAVAR or maybe MAXIBOLIN for pre-contest prep as opposed to dbol or anadrol.
my point was that, no, it wasn't standard practise to stop all androgens to get shredded.
the fact is that the drugs i mentioned are anabolic AND adrogenic.
still, none of what you copied explains any understanding of insulin and why you believe that's the sole drug in milos' stack these days.
just man up and say that you were being a cheerleader for milos.
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I have seen dozens of competitors use insulin, usually 10-20IU post workout (Humalog mostly), and I have never seen it do much. Usually the guys couldn't really tell if it was doing anything. Anyone see the magic 30-40 pound muscle increase, which Milos talks about, with their own eyes? What were they taking along side the insulin?
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my point was that, no, it wasn't standard practise to stop all androgens to get shredded.
the fact is that the drugs i mentioned are anabolic AND adrogenic.
still, none of what you copied explains any understanding of insulin and why you believe that's the sole drug in milos' stack these days.
just man up and say that you were being a cheerleader for milos.
1. Yes it was, maybe not for all but for most it was, simply because of the water retention the androgens would cause during the carb load phase during the last week before a show.
2. Insulin being a powerful anabolic should be enough to convince you, now, I'm not quite sure what Milos weighs, but I can all but assure you that he's nowhere as big as he was or as big as you think he might be, my guess is somewhere around 235-240, I could be wrong.
3. Look at my past posts, I blast him all over the place for introducing insulin into the industry and all but ruined the industry. My feeling on that is the quality of physiques has taken a turn for the worse with the bloated guts, lack of symmerty and lack of conditioning and not being as shredded as people once were, but on that note, he's been upfront and I don't believe he's lied. I'm going to give credit when credit is due but I'm not afraid to speak my mind when I disagree with someone no matter who it is.
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3. Look at my past posts, I blast him all over the place for introducing insulin into the industry and all but ruined the industry. My feeling on that is the quality of physiques has taken a turn for the worse with the bloated guts, lack of symmerty and lack of conditioning and not being as shredded as people once were, but on that note, he's been upfront and I don't believe he's lied. I'm going to give credit when credit is due but I'm not afraid to speak my mind when I disagree with someone no matter who it is.
You are probably right but how come Milos himself is so ripped then? The chest is crazy shredded in these pics. How come his stomach was never distended? What do you think?
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#2 I would guess Milos' weight around 260 or so ;)
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#2 I would guess Milos' weight around 260 or so ;)
no way dude, 240's prolly, unless uve seen him in person lately.
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no way dude, 240's prolly, unless uve seen him in person lately.
4 days a week :-*
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4 days a week :-*
260's is fvckin huge, how tall is he? Do you say that sarcastically anyway (that he 'looks 260'?)
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I have seen dozens of competitors use insulin, usually 10-20IU post workout (Humalog mostly), and I have never seen it do much. Usually the guys couldn't really tell if it was doing anything. Anyone see the magic 30-40 pound muscle increase, which Milos talks about, with their own eyes? What were they taking along side the insulin?
it takes more than that spread out the day dangerous amounts
Nasser is the most famous example, he gained a lot of mass of humulin and was rumored to use 100 ius a day.
Jay and Ronnie are huge insulin users too over 40 iu;s a day they take it with meals the PWO is BS some of the heavy guys take it with every meal when bulking
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260's is fvckin huge, how tall is he? Do you say that sarcastically anyway (that he 'looks 260'?)
I think he's about 5'10"+ maybe a bit taller and no sarcasm is involved, the guy is huge and in great condition 24/7/365, all the time. His workouts are intense, and he obviously knows about nutrition/recovery. He may only be in the 250's but no way is he 235-240.
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it takes more than that spread out the day dangerous amounts
Nasser is the most famous example, he gained a lot of mass of humulin and was rumored to use 100 ius a day.
Jay and Ronnie are huge insulin users too over 40 iu;s a day they take it with meals the PWO is BS some of the heavy guys take it with every meal when bulking
Yeah, but I'm sure Milos will say he would never use or recommend more than 40IU of Humalog split over two daily workouts.
I remember when Chad said insulin was only used one or two days per week, at 6 IU 3x per day on those days. I can't see it doing much at those doses. You get a higher insulin surge by eating a candy bar.
Disgusted and Dante have said some pros much higher doses so....
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I think he's about 5'10"+ maybe a bit taller and no sarcasm is involved, the guy is huge and in great condition 24/7/365, all the time. His workouts are intense, and he obviously knows about nutrition/recovery. He may only be in the 250's but no way is he 235-240.
5'11" and 255lbs [+/- 5 lbs]
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milos you are one of the best bodies ever in the ifbb !
there is a guy in my gym who says he is your cousin ..........in new york his name is john
do u know him ...... ::)
Let's see...there are at least 2 (maybe 3? ::)) John's in New York...Oh, yeah - my cousin John...(typical Yugoslavian name...).
Please send my best to him and ask him if his mother was first or second neighboor to my grandparents....or they maybe traveled together by train once?
If my count is right - John is about my 78th cousin I never had...
For some reason just about every Yugoslavian guy who trains in the gyms here in US claims that we are related...
I just hope my "ex-husband" will not surface any day now...somewhere in Philadelphia...or Omaha (by that Oceanfront property I am buying from Squad)...
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Let's see...there are at least 2 (maybe 3? ::)) John's in New York...Oh, yeah - my cousin John...(typical Yugoslavian name...).
Please send my best to him and ask him if his mother was first or second neighboor to my grandparents....or they maybe traveled together by train once?
If my count is right - John is about my 78th cousin I never had...
For some reason just about every Yugoslavian guy who trains in the gyms here in US claims that we are related...
I just hope my "ex-husband" will not surface any day now...somewhere in Philadelphia...or Omaha (by that Oceanfront property I am buying from Squad)...
I've met a lot of "Mike"'s from Yugoslavia, and a couple "Bob"'s...some "George"'s from Turkey too.
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Unsupervised insulin regimens reported by AAS users in this study typically consisted of a fast-acting insulin (Humulin R, Humalog) formulation self-administered after a postworkout meal. Some users report using a glucometer to minimize their risk of unwanted hypoglycemic events. The anabolic effect of insulin is manifest by an artificially induced hyperinsulinemic state that increases amino acid transport into muscles inhibiting protein breakdown and stimulating overall bulk protein synthesis when in the presence of concomitant hyperaminoacidemia.[2]
;)
One of the snake oil concepts ;)
Hyperaminoacidemia (and not just ANY hyperaminoacidemia but carefully chosen one) and hyperinsulinemia caused by specific hyperglycemia during weight resistance training induced hyperemia IS HOW MY "SNAKE OIL" WORKS...
100% NATURAL AND 1 MILLION % EFFECTIVE...for those who believe in snakes, oils...or at least common sense and OK - "THE MIND"!
;)
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milos why werent you ever deported after your drug conviction ???
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milos why werent you ever deported after your drug conviction ???
don't think he was ever convicted of anything ;)
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don't think he was ever convicted of anything ;)
:o charges must have been dropped
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For some reason just about every Yugoslavian guy who trains in the gyms here in US claims that we are related...
This is an international thing. Yugoslavians call all their good friends cousins. Took me a while to figure out it wasn't the same type of "cousin" (I know some Serbs).
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:o charges must have been dropped
plea to conspiracy, I believe. Not sure of any punishment/fines :-\
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plea to conspiracy, I believe. Not sure of any punishment/fines :-\
I said many times...but AS IT MATTERS TO ME GREATLY - I will mention it again:
I was charged for: CONSPIRACY TO POSSES ANABOLIC STEROIDS FOR PERSONAL USE...
Why?
After feds searched my house (due to SOMEONE who had SOMETHING to say ::)) - and NOTHING was found - I was not charged with NOTHING...as obviously feds didn't find ANY steroids...thus - no POSSESION CHARGES.
However, agents took 3 of my personal computers and laptops and IN ONE SINGLE E-MAIL they found something they could use to make the case!
They found A SINGLE EMAIL where I asked someone IF he knows where I could get 2 products of choice (W and P) for my upcoming NOC 2003 preparation!
Person I was asking DIDN'T KNOW...but FACT THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND WAS ASKING HIM - was ENOUGH for both of us to be charged for CONSPIRACY TO POSSES FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY!
Nothing was ever found...nothing was confirmed, researched...etc - simple fact that I was LOOKING FOR something that I shouldn't have was obviously PUNISHABLE BY LAW!
That was my ENTIRE GUILT!
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Chaos do you find Milos attractive?
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Chaos would you pound my ass?
you are a sick fuck sgt. d, get help now.
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I said many times...but AS IT MATTERS TO ME GREATLY - I will mention it again:
I was charged for: CONSPIRACY TO POSSES ANABOLIC STEROIDS FOR PERSONAL USE...
Why?
After feds searched my house (due to SOMEONE who had SOMETHING to say ::)) - and NOTHING was found - I was not charged with NOTHING...as obviously feds didn't find ANY steroids...thus - no POSSESION CHARGES.
However, agents took 3 of my personal computers and laptops and IN ONE SINGLE E-MAIL they found something they could use to make the case!
They found A SINGLE EMAIL where I asked someone IF he knows where I could get 2 products of choice (W and P) for my upcoming NOC 2003 preparation!
Person I was asking DIDN'T KNOW...but FACT THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND WAS ASKING HIM - was ENOUGH for both of us to be charged for CONSPIRACY TO POSSES FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY!
Nothing was ever found...nothing was confirmed, researched...etc - simple fact that I was LOOKING FOR something that I shouldn't have was obviously PUNISHABLE BY LAW!
That was my ENTIRE GUILT!
wow thats crazy hey milos do you still do those super slow hack drop sets?? those looked crazy
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;)
One of the snake oil concepts ;)
Hyperaminoacidemia (and not just ANY hyperaminoacidemia but carefully chosen one) and hyperinsulinemia caused by specific hyperglycemia during weight resistance training induced hyperemia IS HOW MY "SNAKE OIL" WORKS...
100% NATURAL AND 1 MILLION % EFFECTIVE...for those who believe in snakes, oils...or at least common sense and OK - "THE MIND"!
;)
I don't know about the 20lbs of muscle in such a short, but to put it on quite a bit faster....yes. But that's ok, according to "Beast8692" I'm a fraud as a trainer and knowledgable :D!!
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Chaos do you find Milos attractive?
Off course he does...I am attractive man...Don't you think? ;)
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I don't know about the 20lbs of muscle in such a short, but to put it on quite a bit faster....yes. But that's ok, according to "Beast8692" I'm a fraud as a trainer and knowledgable :D!!
Coach - come train with me for ONE MONTH and take my "snake oil"....15 pounds guarantee...20 MAYBE...20+ POSSIBLE...40 - if you take "snake teeth" with it...
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look forward to seeing you in the Oz GP Milos. I'll be on the other side of the stage this time, In the judges seats. I'm sure Sonny will be looking on too.
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Coach - come train with me for ONE MONTH and take my "snake oil"....15 pounds guarantee...20 MAYBE...20+ POSSIBLE...40 - if you take "snake teeth" with it...
For FREE ;D?
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Coach - come train with me for ONE MONTH and take my "snake oil"....15 pounds guarantee...20 MAYBE...20+ POSSIBLE...40 - if you take "snake teeth" with it...
I have retired the creation of 'Snake Oil' it is no more, it is dead.
There has been a merger between D.L.5 and Team Milos.
IN fact I have ideas of a 'Unity' Promotion....Where I take the supplements, get in contest shape and take photo's with Milos at Aussie show, to quote andreas munzer in his accent in "shredded" condition (as much as possible for natural man).
what does Milos think?
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I don't know about the 20lbs of muscle in such a short, but to put it on quite a bit faster....yes. But that's ok, according to "Beast8692" I'm a fraud as a trainer and knowledgable :D!!
Have you used it yourself or coached someone who used it?
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Have you used it yourself or coached someone who used it?
No, I have never used insulin nor would I advise someone to use it, again, I don't like the look it has on people that have used it or uses it. I'm old school and think that bodybuilding should be about size, symmetry, conditioning and proportion.
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No, I have never used insulin nor would I advise someone to use it, again, I don't like the look it has on people that have used it or uses it. I'm old school and think that bodybuilding should be about size, symmetry, conditioning and proportion.
Insulin should only be used by diabetics.
clenbuterol only by asthmatics.
However, Bodybuilders always twist medication for the physique.
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look forward to seeing you in the Oz GP Milos. I'll be on the other side of the stage this time, In the judges seats. I'm sure Sonny will be looking on too.
MonstaDwarf - we will change the roles this time around...and as far as Sonny - I am dedicating that victory to him. ;)
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I have retired the creation of 'Snake Oil' it is no more, it is dead.
There has been a merger between D.L.5 and Team Milos.
IN fact I have ideas of a 'Unity' Promotion....Where I take the supplements, get in contest shape and take photo's with Milos at Aussie show, to quote andreas munzer in his accent in "shredded" condition (as much as possible for natural man).
what does Milos think?
I agree
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No, I have never used insulin nor would I advise someone to use it, again, I don't like the look it has on people that have used it or uses it. I'm old school and think that bodybuilding should be about size, symmetry, conditioning and proportion.
If you use it correctly you will improve size, symmetry, conditioning and proportion...WITH INSULIN!
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Insulin should only be used by diabetics.
clenbuterol only by asthmatics.
However, Bodybuilders always twist medication for the physique.
Alcohol only by alcoholics?
Water only by dehydrated?
Etc... ;)
I don't think so...
Fire can give you HEAT...but also a LIGHT...use it as you need it!
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No, I have never used insulin nor would I advise someone to use it
OK, but have you seen someone put on a lot of muscle on it?
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Alcohol only by alcoholics?
Water only by dehydrated?
Etc... ;)
I don't think so...
Fire can give you HEAT...but also a LIGHT...use it as you need it!
i guess so, but just like mike mentzer with h.i.t ... u have to start a revolution for people to believe you.
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I agree
Sounds like a plan.
I am 209 pounds now, i will get down to 189 for the aussie show. and if i have enough time, add some more mass and cut again and use the xplode series for my workout regimen.
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Sad truth is - when I have met some pros - they were doing EVEN LESS drugs than what I reccomand..
the only honest statement by Milos thus far...
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milos, what was the office charge? and what did you come out with?
so if someone said "i want roids" they can bust down your door and arrest you?
damn, thats fucked up. some healthy guy wants to add a little test to gain some lean body mass, it seems like he would get more time in jail than someone who murders someone. He would also get a harsher penalty than the guy slangin crack and heroin on the corner, the crack dealer would probably just get a citation.. what the hell is going on here???
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OK, but have you seen someone put on a lot of muscle on it?
LOL, yeah, take a look at the current pro line up, compare them 10 years ago to now, bigger with a hell of alot more muscle and 98% of them have sacrificed their symmetry for ultimate size, how many people on here have said that Ronnie looked better in 98 or 2001 even, he's gone from having great symmetry to having some of the worst symmetry I've ever seen.
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If you use it correctly you will improve size, symmetry, conditioning and proportion...WITH INSULIN!
But the problem is Milos, everyone is putting on so much muscle while sacrificing symmetry and conditioning, you cannot deny that competitors came in harder, better separated and ripped pre-insulin. You know as well as I how easy it is to spill with the stuff, Dennis James is a prime example, 1-2 weeks he looks great, but when he starts to load, he spills big time. Insulin overload Milos and not the insulin he's alledgedly taking.
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LOL, yeah, take a look at the current pro line up, compare them 10 years ago to now, bigger with a hell of alot more muscle and 98% of them have sacrificed their symmetry for ultimate size, how many people on here have said that Ronnie looked better in 98 or 2001 even, he's gone from having great symmetry to having some of the worst symmetry I've ever seen.
I was more curious if you had personally seen a bodybuilder put on a lot muscle with insulin. Say if you had a "maxed out" bodybuilder already on AAS and GH and when he added insulin he puts on 20-30lbs of LBM. I have see plenty of people use it but haven't ever witnessed that type of transformation. He even guarantees you would put on at least 15lbs of pure muscle with it, in one month! You should try it, what's one short month on insulin? LOL You won't ruin your symmetry in one month.
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I was more curious if you had personally seen a bodybuilder put on a lot muscle with insulin. Say if you had a "maxed out" bodybuilder already on AAS and GH and when he added insulin he puts on 20-30lbs of LBM. I have see plenty of people use it but haven't ever witnessed that type of transformation. He even guarantees you would put on at least 15lbs of pure muscle with it, in one month! You should try it, what's one short month on insulin? LOL You won't ruin your symmetry in one month.
I'm 14 weeks out from a show right now and I'm TRYING to make a weight class, If I started insulin now on a low carb diet then start adding carbs, I think it would unravel the 5 weeks I've already put in.
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Alcohol only by alcoholics?
Water only by dehydrated?
Etc... ;)
I don't think so...
Fire can give you HEAT...but also a LIGHT...use it as you need it!
I bet a meth/crack stack could really fire someone up for a workout.
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;)
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;)
One of the snake oil concepts ;)
Hyperaminoacidemia (and not just ANY hyperaminoacidemia but carefully chosen one) and hyperinsulinemia caused by specific hyperglycemia during weight resistance training induced hyperemia IS HOW MY "SNAKE OIL" WORKS...
100% NATURAL AND 1 MILLION % EFFECTIVE...for those who believe in snakes, oils...or at least common sense and OK - "THE MIND"!
;)
Hi there,
Just letting you know that when you are training, your body's blood sugar levels drop and this is referred to as Hypoglycemia, not Hyperglycemia which refers to a lot of suger in the blood. You might want to make the correction before making expert comments like the one above.
Also, I don't see what the big deal is about this issue that makes everyone want to make so much noise. Insulin is a carrier protein and it helps shuttle the nutrients released into the bloodstream to the liver and other tissues like muscle when needed. So injecting insulin post-workout obviously means there's more of it around which means you basically get more amino acids and other nutrients shuttled to the muscle group you've trained so recuperation can begin.
But of course why put it that simply so everyone understands right? ;D
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(and not just ANY hyperaminoacidemia but carefully chosen one)
Carefully chosen one huh? How does this work? Kinda like pointing at the menu in a restaurant and saying, "Yep, that looks good - I'll take that one"?
I love how people get away with a lot of shit simply because no one knows any better ;D
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;)
One of the snake oil concepts ;)
Hyperaminoacidemia (and not just ANY hyperaminoacidemia but carefully chosen one) and hyperinsulinemia caused by specific hyperglycemia during weight resistance training induced hyperemia IS HOW MY "SNAKE OIL" WORKS...
100% NATURAL AND 1 MILLION % EFFECTIVE...for those who believe in snakes, oils...or at least common sense and OK - "THE MIND"!
;)
God i gotta get me some of that there snake oil
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God i gotta get me some of that there snake oil
I will be using Milos' supplement stack and photos will be taken at the Australian contest...
This will be big promo on getbig and u will see the results....photos will be posted.
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You thought wrong... ;)
:o ;D
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:o ;D
Are you saying Milos likes the penis, Laura?
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Are you saying Milos likes the penis, Laura?
not half as much as "joey tito" does.
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not half as much as "joey tito" does.
Hahahahaha I heard the sperm banks in Africa have put up a bounty on his head cause of all their deposits he stole and consumed.
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Hahahahaha I heard the sperm banks in Africa have put up a bounty on his head cause of all their deposits he stole and consumed.
impossible,"joey" lives in San Francisco and those Bay Area musclebears give him all the ball gravy he can "handle".
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Are you saying Milos likes the penis, Laura?
I don't believe I am, Kiwi. I do my best to stay out of other peoples bedrooms ;)
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I was more curious if you had personally seen a bodybuilder put on a lot muscle with insulin. Say if you had a "maxed out" bodybuilder already on AAS and GH and when he added insulin he puts on 20-30lbs of LBM. I have see plenty of people use it but haven't ever witnessed that type of transformation. He even guarantees you would put on at least 15lbs of pure muscle with it, in one month! You should try it, what's one short month on insulin? LOL You won't ruin your symmetry in one month.
bravo, a smart free thinking individual who isn't so easily seduced unlike 'coach'. ::)
notice how coach's next post was a complete sidestep?
we both know that coach's assertions that, it is entirely conceivable that milos can be 255 and ripped at late 40s on JUST insulin, are based on...ZERO knowledge/evidence :-[. in fact his only evidence so far produced is to simply point his finger at the contemporary pro bber...and he wants me to believe he's not a fraud ??? because pro bbers are all JUST taking insulin aren't they? ::) why would they need anything else. :D
coach, the fact that you are saying that pros from the 70s and 80s were going off drugs like dianabol, anavar, halotestin, anapolon (all androgenic and anabolic drugs) tells me that you have no clue whatsoever. in fact, your average gym nobody knows more.
i don't know why you insist on acting like you know something coach. you are a proven liar and a fraud (535lb raw bench press at 180lbs ;D) and all you've done here is prove it again. you should have stayed out of this one. :-X
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i guess so, but just like mike mentzer with h.i.t ... u have to start a revolution for people to believe you.
My revolution is POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS:
HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE
Blood is in the muscle in HUGE AMOUNTS ONLY - DURING A TRAINING!!!
You want to deliver something to muscle?
Do it WHILE YOU TRAIN!!!
Message I have been sending for decades - but few people listen...Well, few of you...many - otherwise!
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the only honest statement by Milos thus far...
Besides - you being happily married gay prostitute?
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Besides - you being happily married gay prostitute?
impossible Milos, "dearth" smokes far too much pole to ever consider getting married.
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My revolution is POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS:
HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE
Blood is in the muscle in HUGE AMOUNTS ONLY - DURING A TRAINING!!!
You want to deliver something to muscle?
Do it WHILE YOU TRAIN!!!
Message I have been sending for decades - but few people listen...Well, few of you...many - otherwise!
Hey Milos I am starting to train 2 times a day today, training each bodypart twice a week
the tiny tits here say it is overkill, what's your opinion on that ?
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My revolution is POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS:
HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE
Blood is in the muscle in HUGE AMOUNTS ONLY - DURING A TRAINING!!!
You want to deliver something to muscle?
Do it WHILE YOU TRAIN!!!
Message I have been sending for decades - but few people listen...Well, few of you...many - otherwise!
You say you rarely take Insulin, Is this because it causes the stomach to protrude.
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I said many times...but AS IT MATTERS TO ME GREATLY - I will mention it again:
I was charged for: CONSPIRACY TO POSSES ANABOLIC STEROIDS FOR PERSONAL USE...
Why?
After feds searched my house (due to SOMEONE who had SOMETHING to say ::)) - and NOTHING was found - I was not charged with NOTHING...as obviously feds didn't find ANY steroids...thus - no POSSESION CHARGES.
However, agents took 3 of my personal computers and laptops and IN ONE SINGLE E-MAIL they found something they could use to make the case!
They found A SINGLE EMAIL where I asked someone IF he knows where I could get 2 products of choice (W and P) for my upcoming NOC 2003 preparation!
Person I was asking DIDN'T KNOW...but FACT THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND WAS ASKING HIM - was ENOUGH for both of us to be charged for CONSPIRACY TO POSSES FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY!
Nothing was ever found...nothing was confirmed, researched...etc - simple fact that I was LOOKING FOR something that I shouldn't have was obviously PUNISHABLE BY LAW!
That was my ENTIRE GUILT!
milos, what can i say? you're a likeable guy and a hell of a salesman, but you are lying again. ::)
conspiracy is when 2 or more people plan to commit a crime AND PUT THAT PLAN INTO ACTION.
you DON'T get convicted of conspiracy by simply asking about drugs via email. the sad thing is, you expect us to believe that the other guy got convicted for merely telling you that the drugs could not be obtained. ::)
what a complete load of baloney (much like you kns products. actually baloney is probably more anabolic :-\).
imagine how many people could get charged with conspiracy if what milos is saying was true. ;D
fortunately, he's not and he would be a lot better salesman if he didn't assume that everyone that posts on this message board was an ignorant pos like coach.
assume - makes an ass out of u and me. ;)
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I was more curious if you had personally seen a bodybuilder put on a lot muscle with insulin. Say if you had a "maxed out" bodybuilder already on AAS and GH and when he added insulin he puts on 20-30lbs of LBM. I have see plenty of people use it but haven't ever witnessed that type of transformation. He even guarantees you would put on at least 15lbs of pure muscle with it, in one month! You should try it, what's one short month on insulin? LOL You won't ruin your symmetry in one month.
Come with Coach - I'll give you "two for one special".. ;)
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I bet a meth/crack stack could really fire someone up for a workout.
Hmmmm - really?
Well, I also bet only on things I am sure about...things I've experienced...
What is meth/crack - anyway?
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Hi there,
Just letting you know that when you are training, your body's blood sugar levels drop and this is referred to as Hypoglycemia, not Hyperglycemia which refers to a lot of suger in the blood. You might want to make the correction before making expert comments like the one above.
Also, I don't see what the big deal is about this issue that makes everyone want to make so much noise. Insulin is a carrier protein and it helps shuttle the nutrients released into the bloodstream to the liver and other tissues like muscle when needed. So injecting insulin post-workout obviously means there's more of it around which means you basically get more amino acids and other nutrients shuttled to the muscle group you've trained so recuperation can begin.
But of course why put it that simply so everyone understands right? ;D
Hi there...
Enjoying summer vacation kid?
When does your school starts?
Let me guess - second or third grade?
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Carefully chosen one huh? How does this work? Kinda like pointing at the menu in a restaurant and saying, "Yep, that looks good - I'll take that one"?
I love how people get away with a lot of shit simply because no one knows any better ;D
EXACTLY...
Reading 20 minues a day?
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Hi there...
Enjoying summer vacation kid?
When does your school starts?
Let me guess - second or third grade?
oh shit!!!! you better watch out Milos "kiwiol" has Samoan friends bigger than Jay Cutler and they carry baseball bats, aren't you terrified? ::)
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My revolution is POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS:
HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE
Blood is in the muscle in HUGE AMOUNTS ONLY - DURING A TRAINING!!!
You want to deliver something to muscle?
Do it WHILE YOU TRAIN!!!
Message I have been sending for decades - but few people listen...Well, few of you...many - otherwise!
disingenuous
yes, lots of blood in muscles during training, especially if you are taking anabolic steroids. ;)
no, natural kns products sipped during workouts will NOT enrich the blood stream with extra anabolic nutrients instantly.
you are forgetting about the pertinent fact that the product must be digested and assimilated first. ;) i'm sorry milos, but your natural supplement DOES NOT bypass the digestion and assimilation phase and you know it.
the best effect you can hope for instantly is a rise in blood sugar levels, but to say that the amino acids go straight into the blood stream upon ingestion is a complete (and laughable) fabrication.
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Hey Milos I am starting to train 2 times a day today, training each bodypart twice a week
the tiny tits here say it is overkill, what's your opinion on that ?
You already know it.
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You say you rarely take Insulin, Is this because it causes the stomach to protrude.
I said rarely?
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milos, what can i say? you're a likeable guy and a hell of a salesman, but you are lying again. ::)
conspiracy is when 2 or more people plan to commit a crime AND PUT THAT PLAN INTO ACTION.
you DON'T get convicted of conspiracy by simply asking about drugs via email. the sad thing is, you expect us to believe that the other guy got convicted for merely telling you that the drugs could not be obtained. ::)
what a complete load of baloney (much like you kns products. actually baloney is probably more anabolic :-\).
imagine how many people could get charged with conspiracy if what milos is saying was true. ;D
fortunately, he's not and he would be a lot better salesman if he didn't assume that everyone that posts on this message board was an ignorant pos like coach.
assume - makes an ass out of u and me. ;)
OK asshole - why don't you post official report...and all the details?
That is EXACTLY what have happened - and "the other guy" was unfortunately Dennis - who suffered JUST BECAUSE I sent him an E-mail...
And in Federal case of THIS magnitude - you think we would get away with missdemeanor charges - on conspiracy - IF they had ANYTHING ELSE?
The only reason I was investigated was - someone singed a song: "he is selling so much more than just steroids...and tha's how he keeps his gym open" - same song some other people told me for years...
He used "perfect opportunity" to TELL IT LIKE IT IS... ::) - as he had a chance - as agents were asking...
I would like to see HOW MANY people would get away with - feds searching their house + taking computers for "checkup"...
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I said rarely?
Almost never i think my bad but could you ansew the question please.
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The only reason I was investigated was - someone singed a song: "he is selling so much more than just steroids...and tha's how he keeps his gym open" - same song some other people told me for years...
I heard this guy was posting right here on Getbig ;D
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Milo's has made some bad choices in photographers. All his pics look like he is selling toothpaste. They are all commercial,self conscience, over indulgent, self important. No an ounce of point of view in one of them, and not one of them tells us anything about the man behind the body. These are supposed shots of the inherent natural strength of the male and yet they are missing the key ingredient, masculinity, Looking at these pictures I can't help to think the man is hollow inside. All you get from his photos is an exterior.
It may just be his modeling skills, I mean a photographer can only do so much.
Milos you should get some pics taken by Jim French, he is still alive. The best male photog that has ever lived.
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Milos should resume his pro career if he is always looking like a pro anyway.
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Milos Sarcev - demystified for getbiggers
Milos' clients don't get huge from his silly ass giant sets or nonsense BS shakes.
He simply advises them on their drug cycles, making the occasional sell. (gotta pay the bills somehow).
btw - IFBB pros are known to lie.
hope this helps.
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Come with Coach - I'll give you "two for one special".. ;)
Again....for FREE ;D?
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bravo, a smart free thinking individual who isn't so easily seduced unlike 'coach'. ::)
notice how coach's next post was a complete sidestep?
we both know that coach's assertions that, it is entirely conceivable that milos can be 255 and ripped at late 40s on JUST insulin, are based on...ZERO knowledge/evidence :-[. in fact his only evidence so far produced is to simply point his finger at the contemporary pro bber...and he wants me to believe he's not a fraud ??? because pro bbers are all JUST taking insulin aren't they? ::) why would they need anything else. :D
coach, the fact that you are saying that pros from the 70s and 80s were going off drugs like dianabol, anavar, halotestin, anapolon (all androgenic and anabolic drugs) tells me that you have no clue whatsoever. in fact, your average gym nobody knows more.
i don't know why you insist on acting like you know something coach. you are a proven liar and a fraud (535lb raw bench press at 180lbs ;D) and all you've done here is prove it again. you should have stayed out of this one. :-X
Wow oh great one.......you are truly a complete mis-informed teenage asshole arn't ya? BTW, my offer still stands about you coming to train with me on any given day just to shut your pie hole. Also, you're the one who should have stayed out of this thread, you're making a COMPLETE ass of yourself everytime you post. I'll bet your on the East coast arn't you?
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Again....for FREE ;D?
only if you say that bodybuilders are athletes ;D
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OK asshole - why don't you post official report...and all the details?
That is EXACTLY what have happened - and "the other guy" was unfortunately Dennis - who suffered JUST BECAUSE I sent him an E-mail...
And in Federal case of THIS magnitude - you think we would get away with missdemeanor charges - on conspiracy - IF they had ANYTHING ELSE?
The only reason I was investigated was - someone singed a song: "he is selling so much more than just steroids...and tha's how he keeps his gym open" - same song some other people told me for years...
He used "perfect opportunity" to TELL IT LIKE IT IS... ::) - as he had a chance - as agents were asking...
I would like to see HOW MANY people would get away with - feds searching their house + taking computers for "checkup"...
why don't you milos?
the accused always receives a copy so post it up big fella. ;D
lmao, you won't because you know i'm right. ;)
NO WAY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH CAN A FEDERAL CONSPIRACY CASE BE SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTED IN USA IF THE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN PUT INTO ACTION.
eg. 2 or more people could talk about committing a robbery but for a conspiracy charge to be sustained they must commit to some action to make it happen ie buying the guns, surveillance on the vendor, etc.
you would have both had to have taken further action to actually obtain the drugs to present prima fascie evidence to support a conspiracy charge. merely asking a question about how to get them would not be anywhere near enough, and simply saying, "i don't know." BWAHAHAHAHA LMFAO...uou really are a funny guy milos. ;D you lie every time you open your mouth but you are funny just the same.
please post the summary of evidence whenever you're ready milos. that would seal the deal and prove me wrong now wouldn't it???
if you were actually telling the truth that is. ;)
let me guess, you won't answer my allegations AGAIN (just like when i offered you $1000.00 pay pal to prove JUST ONE OF YOUR CLAIMS on your kns product, but of course you can ramble on for 30 pages when you have kiddies and cheer leaders that wouldn't dare question 'the mind' ::) ;D ).
run along now milos. i can hear the milos is always right board beckoning.
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Wow oh great one.......you are truly a complete mis-informed teenage asshole arn't ya? BTW, my offer still stands about you coming to train with me on any given day just to shut your pie hole. Also, you're the one who should have stayed out of this thread, you're making a COMPLETE ass of yourself everytime you post. I'll bet your on the East coast arn't you?
translation: bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh hhh :'( i really wish i could prove this ass hole wrong but i can't so i'll just have to cry myself to sleep. :-[
btw, training just for the sake of training is retarded. why on earth would i want to train with you ??? you don't know shit. :D
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i really wish i could prove this ass hole wrong but i can't so i'll just have to cry myself to sleep. :-[
btw, training just for the sake of training is retarded. why on earth would i want to train with you ??? you don't know shit. :D
Hahaha, you're right, who am I to question the one who knows all ::)!
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Milos is the lying snitch 5-6, bald, fat and posts under a gimmick account as "sgtd" ? ;D
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Hahaha, you're right, who am I to question the one who knows all ::)!
what assertions have i made that you want to question me about stupid. ::)
it is you that has made the assertions ie that milos could be 260lbs ripped to the bone whilst ONLY taking insulin and NO OTHER ANABOLIC DRUGS WHATSOEVER.
it is you that made the assertion that bbers from the 70s and 80s stopped taking drugs like tren, dianabol, halotestin, andriol, equipose, anavar to get shredded. hahaha, could you be any less informed.
i am saying you are are a liar and a fraud.
please prove me wrong. if you can't, stfu.
thanks. :D
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Milos Sarcev - demystified for getbiggers
Milos' clients don't get huge from his silly ass giant sets or nonsense BS shakes.
He simply advises them on their drug cycles, making the occasional sell. (gotta pay the bills somehow).
btw - IFBB pros are known to lie.
hope this helps.
Dearth,
Your understanding of Bodybuilding is incorrect. Milos's Clients have results because of his unparalleled knowlodge in exercise science, supplements and nutrition. It is not mystical steroid cycle that can make you grow more....that is what the Losers will always want to believe to satisfy their self pity. Steroids are a part of BB ....but nutrition and genetics are more fundamental elements.
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Hi there...
Enjoying summer vacation kid?
When does your school starts?
Let me guess - second or third grade?
Calm down tiger. Tell me how someone can be hyperglycemic instead of hypoglycemic when they are working out - are you telling me blood sugar levels increase during workouts?
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Calm down tiger. Tell me how someone can be hyperglycemic instead of hypoglycemic when they are working out - are you telling me blood sugar levels increase during workouts?
u are one stoopid kiwi...kiwi.
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u are one stoopid kiwi...kiwi.
At least I don't have to juice to look like a 11 year old schoolgirl with one ugly mug. Broken the 11" barrier with your arms yet?
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what assertions have i made that you want to question me about stupid. ::)
it is you that has made the assertions ie that milos could be 260lbs ripped to the bone whilst ONLY taking insulin and NO OTHER ANABOLIC DRUGS WHATSOEVER.
it is you that made the assertion that bbers from the 70s and 80s stopped taking drugs like tren, dianabol, halotestin, andriol, equipose, anavar to get shredded. hahaha, could you be any less informed.
i am saying you are are a liar and a fraud.
please prove me wrong. if you can't, stfu.
thanks. :D
1. Just the fact that you say we're wrong must mean you're right.
2. I trained with pro's in the 70's, I started competing in the late 70's, a few shows in the 80's and my last show in 91' and now I'm ready to do it again.
3. My "suppliment" Dr. was Dr. Robert Kerr after him I went to Dr. Walzack . Since you seem to be "in the know" about everything, I'm sure you've heard of these Dr's. BTW's, THATS how I know what was going on back then!!
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1. Just the fact that you say we're wrong must mean you're right.
2. I trained with pro's in the 70's, I started competing in the late 70's, a few shows in the 80's and my last show in 91' and now I'm ready to do it again.
3. My "suppliment" Dr. was Dr. Robert Kerr after him I went to Dr. Walzack . Since you seem to be "in the know" about everything, I'm sure you've heard of these Dr's. BTW's, THATS how I know what was going on back then!!
Coach, wich contest are you entering?
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12 weeks (3 X 4 week combos of certain androgens, certain anabolics...certain hormones of choice - never to exceed IN TOTAL what gh15 takes in ONE WEEK)
Milos, did you run Test the whole 12 weeks?
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Coach, wich contest are you entering?
The Excalibur Dec.1
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1. Just the fact that you say we're wrong must mean you're right.
2. I trained with pro's in the 70's, I started competing in the late 70's, a few shows in the 80's and my last show in 91' and now I'm ready to do it again.
3. My "suppliment" Dr. was Dr. Robert Kerr after him I went to Dr. Walzack . Since you seem to be "in the know" about everything, I'm sure you've heard of these Dr's. BTW's, THATS how I know what was going on back then!!
oh, that's right, because drs kerr and walzack are going to tell you what everyone's taking (doctor patient confidentiality aside of course) and these guys only took the prescribed primobolon and deca right? ::)
bbers didn' eliminate androgenic anabolic steroids like tren and anapolon pre-contest to get shredded,. they were often tapered but not eliminated.
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oh, that's right, because drs kerr and walzack are going to tell you what everyone's taking (doctor patient confidentiality aside of course) and these guys only took the prescribed primobolon and deca right? ::)
bbers didn' eliminate androgenic anabolic steroids like tren and anapolon pre-contest to get shredded,. they were often tapered but not eliminated.
Dude, about the last 2-4 weeks androgens were usually eliminated, aaahh fuck, I give up, you know everything, I know nothing........it's like arguing my ex-wife!!
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Let me look for it and I will post it, as well as some links to other forums as well. You are correct though what you see on the graphs is the tail (which shows that it does stay in your system as long as Humulin R), however each individual has a different level of insulin sensitivity. That is why I recommend that you try out the insulin and see what works best for you. I was originally told that Humalog was the way to go to and it made me fat. But it may work differently with you. The point I was getting at was you cant just go with a blanket statement that one type is better than the other, you have to try them out and make your own decision.
Be safe and start out slow.
Dballn, was it hard to shed the fat you got from using slin or is it the same as if you put on the fat naturally and then dieted down.
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The Coach
Man I have not heard anybody talk about Dr. Kerr in a while. Great guy may he R.I.P
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Dearth,
Your understanding of Bodybuilding is incorrect. Milos's Clients have results because of his unparalleled knowlodge in exercise science, supplements and nutrition. It is not mystical steroid cycle that can make you grow more....that is what the Losers will always want to believe to satisfy their self pity. Steroids are a part of BB ....but nutrition and genetics are more fundamental elements.
"Evil Angel"
Your faith in Milos telling the truth is misplaced. He has no incentive to reveal his
actual prescribed dosages much less anything that would implicate his as a "salesman".
btw - the tooth fairy doesn't exist.
hope this helps
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The Excalibur Dec.1
Is that a NPC contest ?
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Is that a NPC contest ?
Yes, I'll be in the Open and Masters.
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Dballn, was it hard to shed the fat you got from using slin or is it the same as if you put on the fat naturally and then dieted down.
Not really as I started to cut it back as soon as I noticed the unwanted effects, tired all the time and more fat around my belly button. I immediately ceased the slin, added some winny, tren and a bit of clen and I was back to square one. I then tried the Humalin R, doesn't kick in as quick so not quite as scary, and my gains were more consistent with the gains described on the boards regarding insulin. Greatest thing about it is you don't have to use 1500mgs of test a week. You can def get buy with 500 and grow like crazy. Throw in some in 75 mgs of fina ed or eod, 30mgs of Dbol ed or 50 mgs or winny and you should get some pretty solid gains. Take all of it at the same time and well......you'll see. The extra 20 spent on the slin will make your drugs go alot farther. Just make sure that you have carbs on standby.
If you are just getting started, I would stay away from slin until you see what AAS work for you. Once you've found the ones that work, you can quit that trial and error BS and then progress to the next stage.
Be careful.......although it is legal, it is dangerous stuff.
I am currently looking for research on Taking IGF1 and anabolics/androgenics as opposed to Insulin use.
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Not really as I started to cut it back as soon as I noticed the unwanted effects, tired all the time and more fat around my belly button. I immediately ceased the slin, added some winny, tren and a bit of clen and I was back to square one. I then tried the Humalin R, doesn't kick in as quick so not quite as scary, and my gains were more consistent with the gains described on the boards regarding insulin. Greatest thing about it is you don't have to use 1500mgs of test a week. You can def get buy with 500 and grow like crazy. Throw in some in 75 mgs of fina ed or eod, 30mgs of Dbol ed or 50 mgs or winny and you should get some pretty solid gains. Take all of it at the same time and well......you'll see. The extra 20 spent on the slin will make your drugs go alot farther. Just make sure that you have carbs on standby.
If you are just getting started, I would stay away from slin until you see what AAS work for you. Once you've found the ones that work, you can quit that trial and error BS and then progress to the next stage.
Be careful.......although it is legal, it is dangerous stuff.
I am currently looking for research on Taking IGF1 and anabolics/androgenics as opposed to Insulin use.
How old you are and for how long you been wokingout ?
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I am currently looking for research on Taking IGF1 and anabolics/androgenics as opposed to Insulin use.
IGF-1 is another rather unimpressive substance IME. Haven't seen it do much. Everyone on the boards raves about it, about the massive gains they made with it, but where are all the dudes that transformed their bodies with it? Actually I think it mostly just makes you leaner.
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IGF-1 is another rather unimpressive substance IME. Haven't seen it do much. Everyone on the boards raves about it, about the massive gains they made with it, but where are all the dudes that transformed their bodies with it? Actually I think it mostly just makes you leaner.
ever use it?
didnt think so.
so, STFU.
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ever use it?
didnt think so.
so, STFU.
Yup, sure did.
Did you? What did it do for you?
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IGF-1 is another rather unimpressive substance IME. Haven't seen it do much. Everyone on the boards raves about it, about the massive gains they made with it, but where are all the dudes that transformed their bodies with it? Actually I think it mostly just makes you leaner.
I've also heard this as well, that is disappointing. Some have mentioned it is like growth in the respect that you will not put on to much muscle, but you will lose BF and gain a few pounds of Lean mass. It (growth) does work well on the slin.
How old you are and for how long you been wokingout ?
About 14 years, started in highschool for football and wrestling, then got into powerlifting then BB. Try to stay between 220 and 240. It took about 4-5 years to find out what drugs worked best for me, once you find out what works for you. For me it is the Basics: Test, Dbol, Deca, Winny, Halo's and Tren. Everything else is gravy.
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why do u do drugs? u compete? got any pics?
do u think naturals get shafted for all their hardwork with a worse look
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why do u do drugs? u compete? got any pics?
do u think naturals get shafted for all their hardwork with a worse look
Used drugs to speed up the recovery time, the increased strength is a plus but more important to a powerlifter than a BB. I did compete until I blew out my back in the Marines. There are a few off season pics on here, my Bitch Ex girl, took all my shit when I was deployed so I hardly have any pics of me in shape. Still have the trophies though and NPC card, that is how Ron verified who I am.
As far as Nat's some look good, but It is really hard to tell who is a Nat these days. If you use Test Suspension and Insulin for your contest prep, you can pretty much be sure that your test will come back clean. A lot of the top Nattys use gear. They are the top nattys cause they know how to get by the tests.
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As far as Nat's some look good, but It is really hard to tell who is a Nat these days. If you use Test Suspension and Insulin for your contest prep, you can pretty much be sure that your test will come back clean. A lot of the top Nattys use gear. They are the top nattys cause they know how to get by the tests.
that is why I WILL NEVER COMPETE IN NATURAL SHOW that is not polygraph tested ( a new federation in Australia tests with Polygraph and several lost their winners place! now imagine there was no poly...those guys would have won unfairly)
that sucks about ur pics...u must be pissed off.
When i finally i get ripped in shape for first time, i will get photos done so i remember (i will be small mass-wise but ripped)...then in a few years as i build my body well, i will do it again and be impressive in ripped shape. its just as natural, as i get leaner i realise i really didnt have much muscle, i thought i had alot more.
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that is why I WILL NEVER COMPETE IN NATURAL SHOW that is not polygraph tested ( a new federation in Australia tests with Polygraph and several lost their winners place! now imagine there was no poly...those guys would have won unfairly)
that sucks about ur pics...u must be pissed off.
When i finally i get ripped in shape for first time, i will get photos done so i remember (i will be small mass-wise but ripped)...then in a few years as i build my body well, i will do it again and be impressive in ripped shape. its just as natural, as i get leaner i realise i really didnt have much muscle, i thought i had alot more.
the poly test is not hard to beat if you know how so i don't put any stock in that. if it were infallible they would be using it in criminal trials and the world would be a much safer place. they don't because it's not.
coach, you have come from every 70s and 80s bber going off androgens to shred to 'usually in the last 2 weeks'. you have a little further to go but your full of shit status is intact. thankyou.
oh, btw, you came up with ZERO on why/how milos stays cut up at 260 in his late 40s by JUST taking insulin.
and milos??? well, the truth got a little too confronting for him also and it appears he's gone on hiatus again. funny how he loves chatting here when he's in control but melts down and leaves when he gets asked the tough questions. hmmmmm...
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the poly test is not hard to beat if you know how so i don't put any stock in that. if it were infallible they would be using it in criminal trials and the world would be a much safer place. they don't because it's not.
coach, you have come from every 70s and 80s bber going off androgens to shred to 'usually in the last 2 weeks'. you have a little further to go but your full of shit status is intact. thankyou.
oh, btw, you came up with ZERO on why/how milos stays cut up at 260 in his late 40s by JUST taking insulin.
and milos??? well, the truth got a little too confronting for him also and it appears he's gone on hiatus again. funny how he loves chatting here when he's in control but melts down and leaves when he gets asked the tough questions. hmmmmm...
I think the guy is only 43, I don't think that is considered his late 40's ::)
Why don't you try his style of training and see what results you get?
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the poly test is not hard to beat if you know how so i don't put any stock in that. if it were infallible they would be using it in criminal trials and the world would be a much safer place. they don't because it's not.
well i guess its not even worth entering any contest...how fucked up is that!
I have read blogs of people on the net (in aus) talking about how they have done cycles then entered natural comps...how fuckin pathetic. that gets zero respect from me.
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coach, you have come from every 70s and 80s bber going off androgens to shred to 'usually in the last 2 weeks'. you have a little further to go but your full of shit status is intact. thankyou.
I don't know about *every* bodybuilder back then coming off the last 2 weeks, but from what I hear it wasn't uncommon. Even today some do it because they believe it makes them crispier (I mentioned Bob Chick saying he does this earlier in this thread). I know some personally who do this. With the GH it's more standard than not for the water retention. Of course if you've been on injectables as well you've still got some androgen in your bloodstream carrying you in.
I don't think Coach is making this up.
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I think the guy is only 43, I don't think that is considered his late 40's ::)
Why don't you try his style of training and see what results you get?
sorry, my mistake, i was under the impression that he was getting closer to 50. not being a smart ass. he does look great at any age.
i am not a bber and simply gaining muscle weight for the sake of it would be suicide for what i do. frankly, if the muscle i gain isn't strong and fast then i would be better off getting fat. muscle uses energy and saps oxygen quickly. i would be like an asthmatic rhino.
i am not even close to qualified to say milos' methods don't work. milos kicks my ass all over the place in bbing terms. he is a proven top flight competitor and was very successful.
if you look at my posts aimed at milos, i'm just calling it as i see it. he has made some pretty outlandish assertions and i want him to back it up is all.
i was just looking through a very old weider mag, 1986 m & f today and i see advertisements on every page where wild claims were made for his 'anabolic mega packs' and 'dynamic weight gainer', etc
now let's just take a look at the weight gainer. it goes something like, "let joe weider, trainer of champions, put pounds of muscle on you every day like the champions do. we know hoe to add beef and you can add a pound a day by simply drinking these great tasting shakes."
i can only imagine how many people became poor fat asses by doing just this. ::)
weider propped up his steroid using bbers as solid evidence of his amazing milk powder when the reality is that all those supplements combined had as much to do with their development as cheese cake.
didn't stop joe weider from become a very rich man though, did it?
my point is, if no one questions these guys hard, it seems to just get accepted as fact. look how quickly seemingly everyone here melts to this guy. truth is, he's brilliant. he gives you just enough truth to look credible (people have become a bit wiser since the old weider days) and then he tries to hawk his product.
no, milos is not selling insulin, but he is claiming that insulin alone can get you a physique like his which is pure bullshit. then he reminds you that his product acts like/and in conjunction with insulin.
as for his attemtps at downgrading his criminal conviction, well, he's not fooling me, let's put it that way. i don't think steroid possession should be illegal but milos wasn't just conspiring to possess steroids. the fact that he has gone a step further and say he was simply asking about a couple...lmao.
chaos, i'm glad you're achieving your goals with milos and i wish you every success, as i said, the man is qualified and then some.
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I don't know about *every* bodybuilder back then coming off the last 2 weeks, but from what I hear it wasn't uncommon. Even today some do it because they believe it makes them crispier (I mentioned Bob Chick saying he does this earlier in this thread). I know some personally who do this. With the GH it's more standard than not for the water retention. Of course if you've been on injectables as well you've still got some androgen in your bloodstream carrying you in.
I don't think Coach is making this up.
perhaps not, but it's a little too simplistic or maybe i just like arguing like he said. ;D
many of the orals taken right up to the day of the show were androgenic aswell as anabolic. i'd love to hear exactly what anabolics (that weren't androgenic) coach believes were taken the last 2 - 4 weeks?
the water retention issue was solved by ceasing the oil based tests, water intake and diuretic manipulation with the carb load.
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sorry, my mistake, i was under the impression that he was getting closer to 50. not being a smart ass. he does look great at any age.
i am not a bber and simply gaining muscle weight for the sake of it would be suicide for what i do. frankly, if the muscle i gain isn't strong and fast then i would be better off getting fat. muscle uses energy and saps oxygen quickly. i would be like an asthmatic rhino.
i am not even close to qualified to say milos' methods don't work. milos kicks my ass all over the place in bbing terms. he is a proven top flight competitor and was very successful.
if you look at my posts aimed at milos, i'm just calling it as i see it. he has made some pretty outlandish assertions and i want him to back it up is all.
i was just looking through a very old weider mag, 1986 m & f today and i see advertisements on every page where wild claims were made for his 'anabolic mega packs' and 'dynamic weight gainer', etc
now let's just take a look at the weight gainer. it goes something like, "let joe weider, trainer of champions, put pounds of muscle on you every day like the champions do. we know hoe to add beef and you can add a pound a day by simply drinking these great tasting shakes."
i can only imagine how many people became poor fat asses by doing just this. ::)
weider propped up his steroid using bbers as solid evidence of his amazing milk powder when the reality is that all those supplements combined had as much to do with their development as cheese cake.
didn't stop joe weider from become a very rich man though, did it?
my point is, if no one questions these guys hard, it seems to just get accepted as fact. look how quickly seemingly everyone here melts to this guy. truth is, he's brilliant. he gives you just enough truth to look credible (people have become a bit wiser since the old weider days) and then he tries to hawk his product.
no, milos is not selling insulin, but he is claiming that insulin alone can get you a physique like his which is pure bullshit. then he reminds you that his product acts like/and in conjunction with insulin.
as for his attemtps at downgrading his criminal conviction, well, he's not fooling me, let's put it that way. i don't think steroid possession should be illegal but milos wasn't just conspiring to possess steroids. the fact that he has gone a step further and say he was simply asking about a couple...lmao.
chaos, i'm glad you're achieving your goals with milos and i wish you every success, as i said, the man is qualified and then some.
I am not training with Milos, just in his gym. I see the amount of work and torture his guys and he goes through to get a workout, it's insane. I don't now about insulin or any other drugs or his shakes for that matter,( did try a sample of each and they do taste great,) all I know is what I see with my own eyes and he busts his ass and stays lean all year, never bloated or blurred lines.
Now his regime of supplements, what he takes, who knows, you cannot make an assumption that you know he is on other AAS, unless you are there with him. my point is after all these years of training, isn't it possible that is all he is taking(insulin). he only needs to maintain his muscle mass, not add to it. The guy is that weight and condition all the time.period.
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coach, you have come from every 70s and 80s bber going off androgens to shred to 'usually in the last 2 weeks'. you have a little further to go but your full of shit status is intact. thankyou.
Hahah, how Ironic........you've gone from saying that the list you posted was ALL androgenic, then I pointed out that infact some on that list were mostly anabolic.........you full of shit status is waaay more intact than mine.
Quick serious question.........how old are you? I mean dude....at least post a pic to show SOME credibility.
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many of the orals taken right up to the day of the show were androgenic aswell as anabolic. i'd love to hear exactly what anabolics (that weren't androgenic) coach believes were taken the last 2 - 4 weeks?
It's true that the anabolic/androgenic classification that bodybuilders use is unscientific. What they really mean by anabolics are drugs that aren't known to promote water retention. For example, Winstrol is known as an anabolic but is in fact quite androgenic (nasty on females). Anadrol is thought to be an androgen but isn't extremely androgenic (but can cause water retention). Scientifically testosterone is the androgen and pretty much all steroids developed since then were developed with the purpose of increasing the anabolic effects i.e. they are anabolic steroids.
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sorry, my mistake, i was under the impression that he was getting closer to 50. not being a smart ass. he does look great at any age.
i am not a bber and simply gaining muscle weight for the sake of it would be suicide for what i do. frankly, if the muscle i gain isn't strong and fast then i would be better off getting fat. muscle uses energy and saps oxygen quickly. i would be like an asthmatic rhino.
If you're not a BBer, then what do you train for? Are you an athlete?
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If you're not a BBer, then what do you train for? Are you an athlete?
if ur not bber. why on this forum?
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if ur not bber. why on this forum?
My point is, if this guy is an athlete, he obviously doesn't know what I do for a living, he must seriously think I'm just some personal trainer shmoe!!
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Hahah, how Ironic........you've gone from saying that the list you posted was ALL androgenic, then I pointed out that infact some on that list were mostly anabolic.........you full of shit status is waaay more intact than mine.
Quick serious question.........how old are you? I mean dude....at least post a pic to show SOME credibility.
go back and find a post of mine where i even implied 'ALL androgenic' stupid.
i even put it in capitals so you wouldn't miss it. i distinctly recall saying anabolic AND androgenic.
seriously, anyone with half a brain can see you are talking out of your ass. androgens cause water retention - brilliant! :o ::)
i am a competitive athlete in another sport that probably looks more like a bodybuilder than you do. or can't you conceive that someone could enjoy bbing whilst participating in another sport?
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I am not training with Milos, just in his gym. I see the amount of work and torture his guys and he goes through to get a workout, it's insane. I don't now about insulin or any other drugs or his shakes for that matter,( did try a sample of each and they do taste great,) all I know is what I see with my own eyes and he busts his ass and stays lean all year, never bloated or blurred lines.
Now his regime of supplements, what he takes, who knows, you cannot make an assumption that you know he is on other AAS, unless you are there with him. my point is after all these years of training, isn't it possible that is all he is taking(insulin). he only needs to maintain his muscle mass, not add to it. The guy is that weight and condition all the time.period.
you don't just maintain 255lbs of ripped muscle.
the body is either anabolic or catabolic. muscle doesn't just stay the same, especially when it's at that level. that size was created with anabolic steroids and other anabolic drugs. once these drugs are ceased and the endocrinology normalises the body protects itself by shedding the unnatural status (extreme muscle development) and goes back to what it was designed to do (which, btw, is not to maintain 255lbs of ripped energy consuming muscle).
survival of the species is primal and nature will not allow 260lb cut up bbers to exist. not at this point of evolution anyway. what you see at milos' gym are guys that are anything but natural in a hormonal sense.
go spend some money on one of the gurus (as opposed to a cheer leader like 'coach') for actual drug regimes (hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it). see what they think of the insulin only idea. 20 minutes later when they have finished laughing their box off they may be coherent enough to inform you.
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you don't just maintain 255lbs of ripped muscle.
the body is either anabolic or catabolic. muscle doesn't just stay the same, especially when it's at that level. that size was created with anabolic steroids and other anabolic drugs. once these drugs are ceased and the endocrinology normalises the body protects itself by shedding the unnatural status (extreme muscle development) and goes back to what it was designed to do (which, btw, is not to maintain 255lbs of ripped energy consuming muscle).
survival of the species is primal and nature will not allow 260lb cut up bbers to exist. not at this point of evolution anyway. what you see at milos' gym are guys that are anything but natural in a hormonal sense.
go spend some money on one of the gurus (as opposed to a cheer leader like 'coach') for actual drug regimes (hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it). see what they think of the insulin only idea. 20 minutes later when they have finished laughing their box off they may be coherent enough to inform you.
...or that someone ::) thinks that he is so important to actually think milos is going to give "whatever info he is asking FOR FREE? "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it)
#1) KNS supplements are designed and work EXACTLY as I said...Fact that we are "out of stock" must mean something (oh -yeah...probably didn't make enough initially...)
Your $1000 challenge IS ACCEPTED - and I confirm (with my word of honor - in front of all getbiggers here as a witnesses) that I did accept your challenge and WILL substantiate all my claims -in front of you, video camera's (FITSHOW or someone else?) and your $1000 in cash placed on my desk...unless you expect that I should just jump into giving you all the info for free? But, than again...you realized that it is - "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it"...so I am sure you are willing to pay for the info...Aren't you?
#2) MY CASE is EXACTLY as I said...and indeed I will be willing to prove that to you as well - when you come with that grand - you promissed. Just to make it little bit more interesting - are you offering another grand IF I prove AGAIN what I am saying?
Maybe you could bring agents or a prosecutor in my case...?
I love to see when "secure and overly confident ::) people like yourself" need to step up - and walk the walk - after they were talking non stop...
Here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is...I am READY and WAITING...Or...it is going to be just a little bit more of the same...when is coming from you: a hot air with a certain (very bad) smell...?
#3) Besides being anabolic or catabolic - body could be maybe: HYPERANABOLIC...if you know what you are doing...off course...and for you - it's only a $1000 away..."big boy" ;)
#4) And - to certainly make your trip worth while - why don't we throw in a drug test as well - for just another grand (I would offer 10 grand - but than you would maybe have God knows what kind of excuse...so I'll keep it low...to make everything affordable. ;)
Imagine that - you could make considerable amount of money + publically emberass me and prove me wrong in at least some (if not all) of these cases...and to top it all off - it will be video RECORDED...
Deal?
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Milos when is next batch of supplements ready?
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Milos when is next batch of supplements ready?
I'll have it for the Olympia (KNS will have a booth at the Olympia expo)...and I will consider all serious distributors from around the world...while for US my partner and I are still debating IF we will go to retail market right away or just "wait for a while"...
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I'll have it for the Olympia (KNS will have a booth at the Olympia expo)...and I will consider all serious distributors from around the world...while for US my partner and I are still debating IF we will go to retail market right away or just "wait for a while"...
ok cool.
also is the gym tank top the same as the 'y-back' tank top? the y-back has no options for size or colour are u sold out?
not sure on ur site, want to buy.
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...or that someone ::) thinks that he is so important to actually think milos is going to give "whatever info he is asking FOR FREE? "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it)
#1) KNS supplements are designed and work EXACTLY as I said...Fact that we are "out of stock" must mean something (oh -yeah...probably didn't make enough initially...)
Your $1000 challenge IS ACCEPTED - and I confirm (with my word of honor - in front of all getbiggers here as a witnesses) that I did accept your challenge and WILL substantiate all my claims -in front of you, video camera's (FITSHOW or someone else?) and your $1000 in cash placed on my desk...unless you expect that I should just jump into giving you all the info for free? But, than again...you realized that it is - "hilarious that people actually think milos is going to give this info free on a public message board when he charges an arm and a leg for it"...so I am sure you are willing to pay for the info...Aren't you?
#2) MY CASE is EXACTLY as I said...and indeed I will be willing to prove that to you as well - when you come with that grand - you promissed. Just to make it little bit more interesting - are you offering another grand IF I prove AGAIN what I am saying?
Maybe you could bring agents or a prosecutor in my case...?
I love to see when "secure and overly confident ::) people like yourself" need to step up - and walk the walk - after they were talking non stop...
Here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is...I am READY and WAITING...Or...it is going to be just a little bit more of the same...when is coming from you: a hot air with a certain (very bad) smell...?
#3) Besides being anabolic or catabolic - body could be maybe: HYPERANABOLIC...if you know what you are doing...off course...and for you - it's only a $1000 away..."big boy" ;)
#4) And - to certainly make your trip worth while - why don't we throw in a drug test as well - for just another grand (I would offer 10 grand - but than you would maybe have God knows what kind of excuse...so I'll keep it low...to make everything affordable. ;)
Imagine that - you could make considerable amount of money + publically emberass me and prove me wrong in at least some (if not all) of these cases...and to top it all off - it will be video RECORDED...
Deal?
lmao ;D
you're a funny guy milos.
why would i expect that you would prove anything if, after nearly a full year and suspension from the ifbb enforced, you STILL HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR ALLEGATIONS AGAINST CHUA.
apparently your 9 yr old daughter can understand how your kns products achieve your claims but they are apparently so complicated that months later you still can't explain, even after a $1000.00 pay pal bet and only requiring you to prove ONE OF YOUR CLAIMS - not all of them. should have been the easiest grand you ever made.
proving what you have claimed is all you did in the conspiracy conviction. why do we have to wait until we're all too old to remember? just post the summary of evidence now. should take you about 2 minutes. ;D
you know very well that i don't live anywhere near you (i've told you plenty of times) so quit with the 'come to my gym.' bs.
drug testing? yeah sure, let me just call my team of ioc doctors that i have on standby. now what did i do with that nurse, oh that's right, she's giving me a sponge bath at the moment, should be ready any minute though. just rang the lab and spoke to my personal head lab technition and he says the team are ready to go. the 200 grand a year analysis guy is out to lunch at the moment but he should be back any minute now. oh shit, i forgot about the testing equipment! i'll just duck out to walmart and get it, won't be a minute. they're offering a special where they have the latest high tech equipment that can test for every single anabolic drug ever and currently being invented, balco, the lot. of course it hasn't been invented yet but isn't that what i pay that team of scientists for >:( they better get to it post haste or i'll cut their 700 grand a year salaries. oh, and it comes with a milos tank top so i highly recommend these things D.L.5.
::)
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Milos do you plan on pimping your juices at the Arnold classic this year? I have a friend who will guinea pig any supplements I want for as long as I want and I want him to take your magic shakes.
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i don't know much, but i know enough to know that you're full of shit.
1. all the anabolics i listed were used 70's and 80's to get shredded and ALL are androgenic.
2. you make grandiose statements on how you know milos can be huge and shredded in his 40s on just insulin but you STILL can't tell me how you came to that conclusion.
i'm glad you've found a knew master to follow, but at least go and find out at least the theory of how before you make your assertions.
Could you possibly get owned any worse?
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go back and find a post of mine where i even implied 'ALL androgenic' stupid.
i even put it in capitals so you wouldn't miss it. i distinctly recall saying anabolic AND androgenic.
seriously, anyone with half a brain can see you are talking out of your ass. androgens cause water retention - brilliant! :o ::)
i am a competitive athlete in another sport that probably looks more like a bodybuilder than you do. or can't you conceive that someone could enjoy bbing whilst participating in another sport?
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i am a competitive athlete in another sport that probably looks more like a bodybuilder than you do. or can't you conceive that someone could enjoy bbing whilst participating in another sport?
Again, you obviously don't know the type of training I do for a living? Quit making an ass of yourself........please, I'm actually embarrassed for you.
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Could you possibly get owned any worse?
don't take things out of context now. the simple fact is all of them are androgenic, which was my point at the time.
notice how i didn't say that all were only or exclusively androgenic. ;)
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bravo, a smart free thinking individual who isn't so easily seduced unlike 'coach'. ::)
notice how coach's next post was a complete sidestep?
we both know that coach's assertions that, it is entirely conceivable that milos can be 255 and ripped at late 40s on JUST insulin, are based on...ZERO knowledge/evidence :-[. in fact his only evidence so far produced is to simply point his finger at the contemporary pro bber...and he wants me to believe he's not a fraud ??? because pro bbers are all JUST taking insulin aren't they? ::) why would they need anything else. :D
coach, the fact that you are saying that pros from the 70s and 80s were going off drugs like dianabol, anavar, halotestin, anapolon (all androgenic and anabolic drugs) tells me that you have no clue whatsoever. in fact, your average gym nobody knows more. i don't know why you insist on acting like you know something coach. you are a proven liar and a fraud (535lb raw bench press at 180lbs ;D) and all you've done here is prove it again. you should have stayed out of this one. :-X
we can play semantics all day but the simple fact is that YOU are the one who is full of shit.
all the drug i've stated ARE androgenic. you bet they are and guess what? they are anabolic too :o.
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why would i expect that you would prove anything if, after nearly a full year and suspension from the ifbb enforced, you STILL HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR ALLEGATIONS AGAINST CHUA.
apparently your 9 yr old daughter can understand how your kns products achieve your claims but they are apparently so complicated that months later you still can't explain, even after a $1000.00 pay pal bet and only requiring you to prove ONE OF YOUR CLAIMS - not all of them. should have been the easiest grand you ever made.
Beast, do you ever see anything besides written words on a page?
Like the saying goes, "Look at the moon, not the finger." Do you know what this could possibly mean?
Milos has a way of enticing people to....do the research for themselves!!! Many times, I have seen him tell people to do a search on his board, or recommend a book instead of telling them outright what to do, or how to do it. Why? Because he wants them to learn for themselves, NOT be spoon fed. More than likely that is the very reason he won't say anything specific.
Milos is not like Nasser, who is well known for being a practical joker and not having any regard for anything aside from a laugh that can come from whatever prank he's trying to pull. Milos want's people to benefit and learn from his posts and/or delve deeper into why he says/does something a certain way. Nasser would just want you to do it so he can laugh about some internet idiot that read you can take 1500mg of testosterone suspension every day and not have any sides, because he (Nasser) said so.
In other words, look at the bigger picture. ;)
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so gh15 is Nasser?
i never worked out who gh15 is?
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Again, you obviously don't know the type of training I do for a living? Quit making an ass of yourself........please, I'm actually embarrassed for you.
yes i do, you defraud people.
you have been exposed as a fraud many times eg. your raw bench press of 535 at 180 was a classic and when asked to explain any of the bs you put down here, you suddenly can't type. ;D
think about it stupid, name a single thing you've said here that you can support with facts?
you say milos can retain 255lbs ripped on just insulin. i ask you how and you haven't got a fucking clue, you just wanted to hang off milos' nuts so you might feel more important. it's you that should be embarrassed, seeing as you apparently 'train for a living.' ::)
of course, by your own admission, you've had absolutely zero experience with insulin so when pressed to find out how you know it's so effective your only answer was to point at the current pro bbers and say 'well it obviously works.' lmao...and you're supposed to be a trainer ??? omg, i feel sorry for the clients you have defrauded.
as for the ceasing use of steroids that are androgenic to get shredded. well, if you knew the first thing about the drugs you take you would know that top flight pro bbers HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN ANDROGENIC ANABOLIC STEROIDS RIGHT UP UNTIL THE DAY OF THE CONTEST .
this is an indisputable fact stupid. anadrol, anavar, dianabol, tren, winstrol - all androgenic steroids and taken right up to the contest in order to get SHREDDED along with water and sodium manipulation + diuretics. ;D you're too easy.
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don't take things out of context now. the simple fact is all of them are androgenic, which was my point at the time.
notice how i didn't say that all were only or exclusively androgenic. ;)
Quit backpedalling, you even put ALL in a different font and called him stupid. You just owned yourself twice. Stupid.
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Beast, do you ever see anything besides written words on a page?
Like the saying goes, "Look at the moon, not the finger." Do you know what this could possibly mean?
Milos has a way of enticing people to....do the research for themselves!!! May times, I have seen him tell people to do a search on his board, or recommend a book instead of telling them outright what to do, or how to do it. Why? Because he wants them to learn for themselves, NOT be spoon fed. More than likely that is the very reason he won't say anything specific.
Milos is not like Nasser, who is well known for being a practical joker and not having any regard for anything aside from a laugh that can come from whatever prank he's trying to pull. Milos want's people to benefit and learn from his posts and/or delve deeper into why he says/does something a certain way. Nasser would just want you to do it so he can laugh about some internet idiot that read you can take 1500mg of testosterone suspension every day and not have any sides, because he (Nasser) said so.
In other words, look at the bigger picture. ;)
Well, some people still prefer to get fish than learn how to catch the fish...and for those (BAST) I like to suggest expensive sushi restaurant they can't afford...
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(I'm puckering up here)
Milos, you're one of the people that taught me how to find things out for themselves, not just ask for it. All through your posts and own board. :)
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yes i do, you defraud people.
you have been exposed as a fraud many times eg. your raw bench press of 535 at 180 was a classic and when asked to explain any of the bs you put down here, you suddenly can't type. ;D
think about it stupid, name a single thing you've said here that you can support with facts?
you say milos can retain 255lbs ripped on just insulin. i ask you how and you haven't got a fucking clue, you just wanted to hang off milos' nuts so you might feel more important. it's you that should be embarrassed, seeing as you apparently 'train for a living.' ::)
of course, by your own admission, you've had absolutely zero experience with insulin so when pressed to find out how you know it's so effective your only answer was to point at the current pro bbers and say 'well it obviously works.' lmao...and you're supposed to be a trainer ??? omg, i feel sorry for the clients you have defrauded.
as for the ceasing use of steroids that are androgenic to get shredded. well, if you knew the first thing about the drugs you take you would know that top flight pro bbers HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN ANDROGENIC ANABOLIC STEROIDS RIGHT UP UNTIL THE DAY OF THE CONTEST .
this is an indisputable fact stupid. anadrol, anavar, dianabol, tren, winstrol - all androgenic steroids and taken right up to the contest in order to get SHREDDED along with water and sodium manipulation + diuretics. ;D you're too easy.
Ok smartass.........what type of training do I do?
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Beast, do you ever see anything besides written words on a page?
Like the saying goes, "Look at the moon, not the finger." Do you know what this could possibly mean?
Milos has a way of enticing people to....do the research for themselves!!! May times, I have seen him tell people to do a search on his board, or recommend a book instead of telling them outright what to do, or how to do it. Why? Because he wants them to learn for themselves, NOT be spoon fed. More than likely that is the very reason he won't say anything specific.
Milos is not like Nasser, who is well known for being a practical joker and not having any regard for anything aside from a laugh that can come from whatever prank he's trying to pull. Milos want's people to benefit and learn from his posts and/or delve deeper into why he says/does something a certain way. Nasser would just want you to do it so he can laugh about some internet idiot that read you can take 1500mg of testosterone suspension every day and not have any sides, because he (Nasser) said so.
In other words, look at the bigger picture. ;)
wow
so this was what he wanted the feds to do when he was charged with conspiracy. he wanted them to learn for themselves that he was not guilty, but alas they didn't and he was convicted. :(
the ifbb...he wanted them read books about defamation of character but alas they didn't and he was suspended. :(
experimenting with synthol. he wanted to learn from books but he couldn't read so he caught fire.
YoungBlood, i am a pretty well read man and that is why i'm questioning his reasoning behind his kns products BECAUSE IT DISPUTES EVERYTHING I'VE EVER READ ON HUMAN BIOLOGY, NUTRITION AND ENDOCRINOLOGY. sorry bud, but if you want to pay for over priced sugar and protein be my guest but since he's selling the product and making the claims he does about it i will reserve the right to question it. ;)
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Ok smartass.........what type of training do I do?
that's what you come back with?
i couldn't give a frog's fat ass what type of training you do.
back your talk up and tell me what non-androgenic steroids these 70s and 80s pro bbers were taking to get shredded?
back up your talk and tell me how you reach the conclusion that 255lbs of ripped mass is entirely doable on just insulin alone. i'll be interested to know how you know this seeing as you have had NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH TAKING ONLY INSULIN AND DON'T HAVE THE FOGGIEST IDEA HOW IT WORKS OR HOW TO USE IT.
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lmao ;D
you're a funny guy milos.
why would i expect that you would prove anything if, after nearly a full year and suspension from the ifbb enforced, you STILL HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR ALLEGATIONS AGAINST CHUA.
apparently your 9 yr old daughter can understand how your kns products achieve your claims but they are apparently so complicated that months later you still can't explain, even after a $1000.00 pay pal bet and only requiring you to prove ONE OF YOUR CLAIMS - not all of them. should have been the easiest grand you ever made.
proving what you have claimed is all you did in the conspiracy conviction. why do we have to wait until we're all too old to remember? just post the summary of evidence now. should take you about 2 minutes. ;D
you know very well that i don't live anywhere near you (i've told you plenty of times) so quit with the 'come to my gym.' bs.
drug testing? yeah sure, let me just call my team of ioc doctors that i have on standby. now what did i do with that nurse, oh that's right, she's giving me a sponge bath at the moment, should be ready any minute though. just rang the lab and spoke to my personal head lab technition and he says the team are ready to go. the 200 grand a year analysis guy is out to lunch at the moment but he should be back any minute now. oh shit, i forgot about the testing equipment! i'll just duck out to walmart and get it, won't be a minute. they're offering a special where they have the latest high tech equipment that can test for every single anabolic drug ever and currently being invented, balco, the lot. of course it hasn't been invented yet but isn't that what i pay that team of scientists for >:( they better get to it post haste or i'll cut their 700 grand a year salaries. oh, and it comes with a milos tank top so i highly recommend these things D.L.5.
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lmao...?
Here is your ultimate test of courage...IN YOUR FACE ;).
I'll get you an airplane ticket to come here...hotel accommodation...and let you choose the lab where we can both take my doping test...also - I still have agents (Doug and Tyson) phone numbers - so you can personally interview them as you prefer that I present the "evidence"...
Now, that is - free trip to California (as you said you are from far-far away?) and possibility to make $4000.00 and emberass me publically + make yourself RIGHT in front of all this people here...
What else do you want?
All you have to find is just little bit of balls to ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME try to back up your words - you could only be sure and secure enough saying when you are imaginary character - hiding behind your keyboard...
For your satisfaction ONLY - I will even show you all my Paul Chua evidence - and as you didn't remember - I said: I WILL PROVE MY CASE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT...
I see that everyone is in a hurry...except me...
Maybe I know what and why I am doing things certain way?
But, this is about you...
What kind of excuse will you have now...Too busy...or not old enough to travel without parents yet?
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lmao...?
Here is your ultimate test of courage...IN YOUR FACE ;).
I'll get you an airplane ticket to come here...hotel accommodation...and let you choose the lab where we can both take my doping test...also - I still have agents (Doug and Tyson) phone numbers - so you can personally interview them as you prefer that I present the "evidence"...
Now, that is - free trip to California (as you said you are from far-far away?) and possibility to make $4000.00 and emberass me publically + make yourself RIGHT in front of all this people here...
What else do you want?
All you have to find is just little bit of balls to ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME try to back up your words - you could only be sure and secure enough saying when you are imaginary character - hiding behind your keyboard...
For your satisfaction ONLY - I will even show you all my Paul Chua evidence - and as you didn't remember - I said: I WILL PROVE MY CASE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT...
I see that everyone is in a hurry...except me...
Maybe I know what and why I am doing things certain way?
But, this is about you...
What kind of excuse will you have now...Too busy...or not old enough to travel without parents yet?
that will never happen Milos, "beast" is still too scared to even post a picture.
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Milos is neggin him, demonstrating higher social value...... escalate kino
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that will never happen Milos, "beast" is still too scared to even post a picture.
Really?
I can't believe that...but he seems so - confident...Are you sure?
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Really?
I can't believe that...but he seems so - confident...Are you sure?
yep, he claims to be a 220 pounds shredded MMA fighting monster but hasn't posted one picture to back it up.
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yep, he claims to be a 220 pounds shredded MMA fighting monster but hasn't posted one picture to back it up.
Well - there...
I'll accept even MMA challenge BEAST... ;)
Would that bring you here?
What if I promise I wouldn't slap you too hard...?
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lmao...?
Here is your ultimate test of courage...IN YOUR FACE ;).
I'll get you an airplane ticket to come here...hotel accommodation...and let you choose the lab where we can both take my doping test...also - I still have agents (Doug and Tyson) phone numbers - so you can personally interview them as you prefer that I present the "evidence"...
Now, that is - free trip to California (as you said you are from far-far away?) and possibility to make $4000.00 and emberass me publically + make yourself RIGHT in front of all this people here...
What else do you want?
All you have to find is just little bit of balls to ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME try to back up your words - you could only be sure and secure enough saying when you are imaginary character - hiding behind your keyboard...
For your satisfaction ONLY - I will even show you all my Paul Chua evidence - and as you didn't remember - I said: I WILL PROVE MY CASE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT...
I see that everyone is in a hurry...except me...
Maybe I know what and why I am doing things certain way?
But, this is about you...
What kind of excuse will you have now...Too busy...or not old enough to travel without parents yet?
the print in bold is the only thing you have said that doesn't sound like more salesman bullshit, except you've got in reverse, it's actually milos, thus the title of the thread.
i am just an anonymous board member asking you to back up your talk.
i will take you up on your offer though. send me the return tickets now with the booked hotel rooms and meal schedule, etc. the lab of choice will be an ioc affiliated and approved lab. it will involve the very latest and up to date testing procedures on your dime and you will submit to every single one of them.
so, enough talk. let's do it. i am available and looking forward to meeting with you in person.
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Well - there...
I'll accept even MMA challenge BEAST... ;)
Would that bring you here?
What if I promise I wouldn't slap you too hard...?
i want you to promise this board right now that you will fight me mma rules with an mma ref and it will be video taped for getbig no matter who i am.
hello milos, let's see if you are a man of your word, promise everyone here that you will fight me in a ring or octagon mma rules 5 X 3 or 3 x 3, your choice. if you are a man of true integrity you will do this no matter who i am or what experience i have. afterall you made the statement first so walk your talk big boy.
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Beast i still cant believe u dont bodybuild, i mean u must be fan of the sport to take such interest and lift weights?
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i want you to promise this board right now that you will fight me mma rules with an mma ref and it will be video taped for getbig no matter who i am.
hahahhaa, oh brother, i'm sure Milos is going to get on the phone with Dana White who he knows personally and get a ring, a referee and press coverage set up in the gym parking lot just for you "beast". ::)
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Milos is neggin him, demonstrating higher social value...... escalate kino
"KINO...TOUCH"
"ITS KINO ESCALATION...AND IF SHE TOUCHES YOU, PUSH HER AWAY, AND TURN AROUND....SHE WILL FEEL THE LOSS!"
lol that video is the biggest load of shit.
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Now you are talking "big boy" ;D
Where should I send a tickets?
Full name - and the address...
When is the good time?
And WHY do I feel - you will change your mind...when "HEAT starts burning your feet" and you actually have to BE A MAN - for once?
A far as lab - we can use IOC lab at UCLA.
As far as hotel - it will be Residence Inn across the street from my gym (all the guys stay there)...Phone: 714/996-0555
As far as airline - you have any preferences?
As far as balls (your balls) - did you find any lately? ;D
I am waiting (for your next excuse...why all this somehow just - doesn't seem REAL ENOUGH)...Internet can and WILL become REAL LIFE - when you become REAL person "BEAST"...and I can't wait to meet THE MAN... :-*
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i want you to promise this board right now that you will fight me mma rules with an mma ref and it will be video taped for getbig no matter who i am.
I PROMISE!
Should I say it again: I promise and can't wait to spank you 'beasty"...(spaking is not against the rules - is it?)
Now - do you promise you would not cry?
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i want you to promise this board right now that you will fight me mma rules with an mma ref and it will be video taped for getbig no matter who i am.
hello milos, let's see if you are a man of your word, promise everyone here that you will fight me in a ring or octagon mma rules 5 X 3 or 3 x 3, your choice. if you are a man of true integrity you will do this no matter who i am or what experience i have. afterall you made the statement first so walk your talk big boy.
Hahaha you'll get the beating of your life
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"KINO...TOUCH"
"ITS KINO ESCALATION...AND IF SHE TOUCHES YOU, PUSH HER AWAY, AND TURN AROUND....SHE WILL FEEL THE LOSS!"
lol that video is the biggest load of shit.
the method works
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i cant believe all this shit started just from a pic of milos legs!!!!!!!!!!!! u guys are incredible !!! ;D ;D
by the way milos those legs look crazy!
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i cant believe all this shit started just from a pic of milos legs!!!!!!!!!!!! u guys are incredible !!! ;D ;D
by the way milos those legs look crazy!
yes they do, some of the best legs in the history of bodybuilding.
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i cant believe all this shit started just from a pic of milos legs!!!!!!!!!!!! u guys are incredible !!! ;D ;D
by the way milos those legs look crazy!
Welcome to getbig ! ;D
Do you also want to fight someone Marcos ?
just post an off-season pic :D
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i want you to promise this board right now that you will fight me mma rules with an mma ref and it will be video taped for getbig no matter who i am.
hello milos, let's see if you are a man of your word, promise everyone here that you will fight me in a ring or octagon mma rules 5 X 3 or 3 x 3, your choice. if you are a man of true integrity you will do this no matter who i am or what experience i have. afterall you made the statement first so walk your talk big boy.
I see - you changed your first post and added: "hello milos, let's see if you are a man of your word, promise everyone here that you will fight me in a ring or octagon mma rules 5 X 3 or 3 x 3, your choice. if you are a man of true integrity you will do this no matter who i am or what experience i have. afterall you made the statement first so walk your talk big boy"
So - just to make sure you understand: I promise everyone here that I will fight whoever you send to fight me in a ring or octagon - as we all know - you will not show up...
I did make that statement - and I can't wait to walk my talk...Can you?
;)
PS: You wish to put money on figth as well?
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i cant believe all this shit started just from a pic of milos legs!!!!!!!!!!!! u guys are incredible !!! ;D ;D
by the way milos those legs look crazy!
Marcos...I told you - some kids need some spanking every so often...
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milos i will fight u one day ...in the gym, legs day!! (please dont be too cruel to me) ;D ;D
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the method works
are u serious!
its fuckin wierd load of shit.
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Now you are talking "big boy" ;D
Where should I send a tickets?
Full name - and the address...
When is the good time?
And WHY do I feel - you will change your mind...when "HEAT starts burning your feet" and you actually have to BE A MAN - for once?
A far as lab - we can use IOC lab at UCLA.
As far as hotel - it will be Residence Inn across the street from my gym (all the guys stay there)...Phone: 714/996-0555
As far as airline - you have any preferences?
As far as balls (your balls) - did you find any lately? ;D
I am waiting (for your next excuse...why all this somehow just - doesn't seem REAL ENOUGH)...Internet can and WILL become REAL LIFE - when you become REAL person "BEAST"...and I can't wait to meet THE MAN... :-*
give me all the information here or via pm. i want to know exactly how you're going to set this up.
i don't care if we fight in a parking lot, sparring at a club or a promoted tournament. just tell me where you want to do it so i can make inquiries to find out if you are legitemate or not.
tell me exactly who to call at what lab so i can call them and verify.
tell me who to call at what hotel and when my room will be booked. you can pick the time and date (within the next 2 months).
basically, i want you to set everything up and then i will let you know who i am and where i want you to send the tickets.
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milos i will fight u one day ...in the gym, legs day!! (please dont be too cruel to me) ;D ;D
Marcos - you know I can't loose on legs...so start preparing...
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give me all the information here or via pm. i want to know exactly how you're going to set this up.
i don't care if we fight in a parking lot, sparring at a club or a promoted tournament. just tell me where you want to do it so i can make inquiries to find out if you are legitemate or not.
tell me exactly who to call at what lab so i can call them and verify.
tell me who to call at what hotel and when my room will be booked. you can pick the time and date (within the next 2 months).
basically, i want you to set everything up and then i will let you know who i am and where i want you to send the tickets.
Find out IF I AM LEGITEMATE?
Good one.
I already told you the name of the lab - IOC lab at UCLA University.
I already told you hotel - Residence Inn - and gave you a phone number...
I asked you for few other details - and you didn't answer...
And JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU - I will even offer you: I can come to YOUR TOWN and WE CAN DO IT where you live - completely in your organisation...so you don't have to wonder IF I am serious and/or legitimate.
Here it is - on getbig board...I am posting under my name - so everyone can reffer to this post.
I can come to you and you can organize:
1- mma fight with me
2- all 4 challenges that we have - at YOUR CONVINIENCE...so you don't have to wonder IF I am indeed serious and/or legitemate.
As (for some reason ::)) I just doubt you will ever give me your name and address (necessary to make arrangements, purchase the tickets...etc) so - I am offering you EASIER thing - and that is for me to come to you...That way you can still "talk" just a little bit longer...
After all IT IS QUESTION OF INTEGRITY... ;)
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that's what you come back with?
i couldn't give a frog's fat ass what type of training you do.
back your talk up and tell me what non-androgenic steroids these 70s and 80s pro bbers were taking to get shredded?
back up your talk and tell me how you reach the conclusion that 255lbs of ripped mass is entirely doable on just insulin alone. i'll be interested to know how you know this seeing as you have had NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH TAKING ONLY INSULIN AND DON'T HAVE THE FOGGIEST IDEA HOW IT WORKS OR HOW TO USE IT.
1. When referring to athletes, it makes all the difference in the world what kind of training I do.
2. How would you like me to back it up........resurrect Dr. Kerr?
3. I have already gave you my explaination in how Milos got his conditioning.
4. Just because I don't use insulin NOR recommend it, doesn't mean I don't know about how it works and it's effects, most of time off these boards consists of research for what I do!!
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Find out IF I AM LEGITEMATE?
Good one.
I already told you the name of the lab - IOC lab at UCLA University.
I already told you hotel - Residence Inn - and gave you a phone number...
I asked you for few other details - and you didn't answer...
And JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU - I will even offer you: I can come to YOUR TOWN and WE CAN DO IT where you live - completely in your organisation...so you don't have to wonder IF I am serious and/or legitimate.
Here it is - on getbig board...I am posting under my name - so everyone can reffer to this post.
I can come to you and you can organize:
1- mma fight with me
2- all 4 challenges that we have - at YOUR CONVINIENCE...so you don't have to wonder IF I am indeed serious and/or legitemate.
As (for some reason ::)) I just doubt you will ever give me your name and address (necessary to make arrangements, purchase the tickets...etc) so - I am offering you EASIER thing - and that is for me to come to you...That way you can still "talk" just a little bit longer...
After all IT IS QUESTION OF INTEGRITY... ;)
no, i want to be able to ring someone at these places, verify their authenticity ie how the tests will be done and who will be paying for them, etc.
i may take you up on your offer of coming to me, won't take me much to organise. basically, you will simply come to my club and spar with me for 5 x 5 minute rounds. you have made a lot of talk here and you obviously think you're a decent fighter so it will be a full contact spar with probably my trainer as the referee. there will be a bet, 30 grand cash u.s which we will both give to my trainer or a mutual party. if i don't ko, tko, submit or in any way retire you from the fight within that 5 x 5 minute rounds you can keep the 60 grand. this will be a written contract that we will both sign when you get here.
i will not back down on this milos, i promise you. you have made a promise to me so, as you say, it is a matter of integrity and honour. if you carry this out i will have no reason to ever question your integrity again.
we'll keep all of this on the board so everyone can see for themselves what transpires.
when have you got a free couple of weeks to travel to another country.
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The discussion regarding what Milos is taking or not taking is irrelevant. The bottom line is: Independently of which supplementation he is taken very few athletes could achieve his level of condition or size at his age or any ages, let alone the average person. The obsession to know and discover a cycle is just a complete lack of understanding of really takes to build a champion physique....Genetics, Training, Nutrition and then anabolics....you may question the importance of Training and nutrition, but this is to expect from someone that always search for the easy way or an explanation to their own genetic short comings.....let the dream go on....Test,GH, Insulin,Tren,Clen.....and I would look like just like Milos....Sure you will....Neverland live on.
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1. When referring to athletes, it makes all the difference in the world what kind of training I do.
2. How would you like me to back it up........resurrect Dr. Kerr?
3. I have already gave you my explaination in how Milos got his conditioning.
4. Just because I don't use insulin NOR recommend it, doesn't mean I don't know about how it works and it's effects, most of time off these boards consists of research for what I do!!
1. wtf?
2. simply tell me what drugs you believe pros took in the 70s and 80s to get shredded ??? :-\
3. no you haven't. i'm still waiting...
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1. When referring to athletes, it makes all the difference in the world what kind of training I do.
2. How would you like me to back it up........resurrect Dr. Kerr?
3. I have already gave you my explanation in how Milos got his conditioning.
4. Just because I don't use insulin NOR recommend it, doesn't mean I don't know about how it works and it's effects, most of time off these boards consists of research for what I do!!
The Coach....I organized seminar once before - and you didn't show up.
May I ask you why?
You see - I offered FREE SEMINAR to all getbig members - and many didn't come.
What did you guys think - I am joking?
I offered to ANSWER EVERY QUESTION - and few were asking...WHY????
I had DJ, Melvin, Dennis Wolf, Armin, Flex Lewis, my lovely wife Milamar, Zhana Rotar and "EVIL ANGEL" (why would you call yourself that - anyway ;D- BTW?)...etc
Melvin was giving tips about posing...MASTER POSER...
We had posedown of Melvin and Armin...
DJ was personally showing exercises to volunteers...and helping them go through GIANT SETS...
Garraeth was playing with the grapefruit...
I mean - what else do you guys want?
MMA FIGHT?
Well, how about if we invite our BEASTY and for that occasion organize my second free seminar - so it is no question of legitimacy or integrity...
I will AGAIN like to offer what I did first time - and have you guys try my giant sets MY WAY...and also try my supplements MY WAY...and let me explain in GREAT DETAIL EXACTLY HOW AND WHY they work so good...
This way - I will answer all the questions and concerns of our BEASTY - and I will do that in the beginning of the day - while he is still conscious...
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no, i want to be able to ring someone at these places, verify their authenticity ie how the tests will be done and who will be paying for them, etc.
i may take you up on your offer of coming to me, won't take me much to organise. basically, you will simply come to my club and spar with me for 5 x 5 minute rounds. you have made a lot of talk here and you obviously think you're a decent fighter so it will be a full contact spar with probably my trainer as the referee. there will be a bet, 30 grand cash u.s which we will both give to my trainer or a mutual party. if i don't ko, tko, submit or in any way retire you from the fight within that 5 x 5 minute rounds you can keep the 60 grand. this will be a written contract that we will both sign when you get here.
i will not back down on this milos, i promise you. you have made a promise to me so, as you say, it is a matter of integrity and honour. if you carry this out i will have no reason to ever question your integrity again.
we'll keep all of this on the board so everyone can see for themselves what transpires.
when have you got a free couple of weeks to travel to another country.
let's get this thing done first.
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Milos,
Evil Angel just seemed cool to join getbig....I guess is the constant struggle between good and bad....you need a lot of both to survive on this board 8)
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Beast,
Just curious...that is...I DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT YOU ;)
Why don't you post your real name ...every body know Milos and how to find him.
That would make it easy !!!
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no, i want to be able to ring someone at these places, verify their authenticity ie how the tests will be done and who will be paying for them, etc.
i may take you up on your offer of coming to me, won't take me much to organise. basically, you will simply come to my club and spar with me for 5 x 5 minute rounds. you have made a lot of talk here and you obviously think you're a decent fighter so it will be a full contact spar with probably my trainer as the referee. there will be a bet, 30 grand cash u.s which we will both give to my trainer or a mutual party. if i don't ko, tko, submit or in any way retire you from the fight within that 5 x 5 minute rounds you can keep the 60 grand. this will be a written contract that we will both sign when you get here.
i will not back down on this milos, i promise you. you have made a promise to me so, as you say, it is a matter of integrity and honour. if you carry this out i will have no reason to ever question your integrity again.
we'll keep all of this on the board so everyone can see for themselves what transpires.
when have you got a free couple of weeks to travel to another country.
Start printing the contract - this is becoming even better...
Why don't we double (triple?) the amount - so we can actually make something out of it...
After all - it might be actually a big PAYDAY for one of us (I certainly hope so that one will be me ;D).
This way I could actually look back and say one day - the best money I ever made was - hanging out on the getbig board....
As I did send you PM before I read this message - I will still let you take my additional offers (stated in my PM) - and as you can see now - you could make even MUCH MORE MONEY than originally thought...
We just need to establish who you are as soon as possible - as certainly you can soon manipulate things to the point of hiring exceptional professional mma fighter who will indeed give me much more troubles than you...
As I am big mma fan (always been) I often talked about "fantasy mma fights" where various top athletes could possibly fight in the ring under mma rules.
I would LOVE the opportunity to fight some of the mma stars (I have my favorites) and I was thinking about possibility of that ever happenning...You are not mma star (at least not that I know... ;D) - but it would certainly be exciting accepting the challenge.
Like Randy Couture (my true inspiration) I would take the fight as "competition" (I love the way he talked to Gonzaga after Crocop fight when he told Gabriel - I am looking foreword to be competing with you...as this is what mma should be - sporting event where martial skills could be demonstrated - without intentions to hurt someone for the sake of hurting...)
I got out of "fighting competitions" exactly because of that - I couldn't deal with final outcome...Either hurt or be hurt...and I didn't want either of that to happen - so I quit fighting long ago...but I am sure I could make the exception this time around...
Now - one little problem is - you say different country?
Where a hell are you from?
That could make a little difficulty - so I should know at least WHERE do you live?
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Milos,
Evil Angel just seemed cool to join getbig....I guess is the constant struggle between good and bad....you need a lot of both to survive on this board 8)
I don't think so...I think LOVE (good) is enough...It is easy to think HATE (bad) only IF you let that "devil inside" feeding you some nonsense...
Remember: life is beautiful - LOVE everyone (well..maybe not everyone...and maybe not LOVE - LOVE...in true meaning of love but just different kind of love and really....NEVER MIND - EVIL ANGEL sounds good to me ;D)
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Start printing the contract - this is becoming even better...
Why don't we double (triple?) the amount - so we can actually make something out of it...
After all - it might be actually a big PAYDAY for one of us (I certainly hope so that one will be me ;D).
This way I could actually look back and say one day - the best money I ever made was - hanging out on the getbig board....
As I did send you PM before I read this message - I will still let you take my additional offers (stated in my PM) - and as you can see now - you could make even MUCH MORE MONEY than originally thought...
We just need to establish who you are as soon as possible - as certainly you can soon manipulate things to the point of hiring exceptional professional mma fighter who will indeed give me much more troubles than you...
As I am big mma fan (always been) I often talked about "fantasy mma fights" where various top athletes could possibly fight in the ring under mma rules.
I would LOVE the opportunity to fight some of the mma stars (I have my favorites) and I was thinking about possibility of that ever happenning...You are not mma star (at least not that I know... ;D) - but it would certainly be exciting accepting the challenge.
Like Randy Couture (my true inspiration) I would take the fight as "competition" (I love the way he talked to Gonzaga after Crocop fight when he told Gabriel - I am looking foreword to be competing with you...as this is what mma should be - sporting event where martial skills could be demonstrated - without intentions to hurt someone for the sake of hurting...)
I got out of "fighting competitions" exactly because of that - I couldn't deal with final outcome...Either hurt or be hurt...and I didn't want either of that to happen - so I quit fighting long ago...but I am sure I could make the exception this time around...
Now - one little problem is - you say different country?
Where a hell are you from?
That could make a little difficulty - so I should know at least WHERE do you live?
i have sent you a pm of details. i trust that you will keep identities anonymous until this gets into operation. i enjoy my anonymity on these boards.
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"promise to fight mma rules"..... oh brother ::)
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"promise to fight mma rules"..... oh brother ::)
No kissing aloud?
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Air ticket to fullerton, cali : US$ 1000 +-
Taxi to Kolosseum gym from the airport: US$50 ?
Getting kicked in the ass at koloseum's parking lot and then try milos shake to recover, for free: PRICELESS
Go beast, show us the mma fighter you are :)
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Air ticket to fullerton, cali : US$ 1000 +-
Taxi to Kolosseum gym from the airport: US$50 ?
Getting kicked in the ass at koloseum's parking lot and then try milos shake to recover, for free: PRICELESS
Go beast, show us the mma fighter you are :)
What airline are you using? :o
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What airline are you using? :o
American Airlines. That's the cost from chile-> usa
Ripped off no? :(
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milos is coming to me.
you guys may kid around but i am very serious. i have been pming milos (and vice versa) and, believe me, when we set this thing up, it will be a huge event. it will all be video taped for getbig. 8)
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milos is coming to me.
you guys may kid around but i am very serious. i have been pming milos (and vice versa) and, believe me, when we set this thing up, it will be a huge event. it will all be video taped for getbig. 8)
hold on a sec, just exactly...who really gives a fuck ?
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milos is coming to me.
you guys may kid around but i am very serious. i have been pming milos (and vice versa) and, believe me, when we set this thing up, it will be a huge event. it will all be video taped for getbig. 8)
LOL you offer fights over internet and you dont have money to buy a damn ticket to fly to milos's gym?
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hold on a sec, just exactly...who really gives a fuck ?
lol
you will.
you are a bber aren't you? well, imagine seeing one of your very own pro bbers fight 5 x 5 minute rounds for all he's worth. what would you pay for that?
you will see him prove everything, real world strength, stamina ;D, courage ;D, durability ;D, agility ;D, power, speed ;D and all those other things that real athletes are made of. this may just give bodybuilding the extra promotion it needs.
i can see it now, controversial pro bber, milos sarcev, kos pro fighter. wouldn't you all love to see that. getbig would be riding on that for years.
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LOL you offer fights over internet and you dont have money to buy a damn ticket to fly to milos's gym?
what possible reason would i have to fly over to milos' gym ???
i am interested in learning bbing, but not at that expense, especially since bbing is only a hobby and assists with only one part of my prep (and in that sense, it is more strength and power conditioning which is about as opposite to endless pumping with slow reps as you can get. no disrespect milos, my worthy next opponent, i know these guys train exteremely hard but it's a completely different type of training. i need to be loose and quick, explosive and strong without impacting on my stamina.
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American Airlines. That's the cost from chile-> usa
Ripped off no? :(
My sister and her husband when there a year ago February. Cost them $1600 round trip.
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lol
you will.
you are a bber aren't you? well, imagine seeing one of your very own pro bbers fight 5 x 5 minute rounds for all he's worth. what would you pay for that?
you will see him prove everything, real world strength, stamina ;D, courage ;D, durability ;D, agility ;D, power, speed ;D and all those other things that real athletes are made of. this may just give bodybuilding the extra promotion it needs.
i can see it now, controversial pro bber, milos sarcev, kos pro fighter. wouldn't you all love to see that. getbig would be riding on that for years.
You can see this every day IF you come and see me (us) train...but it is not me who is enigmatic...it is you "Beasty-boy" - living in the fantasy world and avoiding the obvious...
Your PM's show MORE OF THE SAME...and as I told you - my next word to you is...after you spell out who you are...as - it is nice to play for a while...but than adults have to go back to work and a real life...
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You can see this every day IF you come and see me (us) train...but it is not me who is enigmatic...it is you "Beasty-boy" - living in the fantasy world and avoiding the obvious...
Your PM's show MORE OF THE SAME...and as I told you - my next word to you is...after you spell out who you are...as - it is nice to play for a while...but than adults have to go back to work and a real life...
i have given you the details (via pm) of where and how this fight will transpire and how it will be promoted.
as i said to you in pm, you didn't care what my name was when you talked your talk so why does it matter now?
i have told you via pm why i can't give my name, but you can't seem to respect that. what if i told you my name was fred smith, would that make any difference?
i have abandoned my condition of drug testing and now all it is is a fight night. easy. all you gotta do is give me a date on when you will be arriving. the rest will be done for you on the promoters dime.
how does it get better than that?
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You're 40+ years old. Give your nuts a rest from the sauce. 20+ years of drug abuse, wtf is wrong with people.
lmao ;)
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The Coach....I organized seminar once before - and you didn't show up.
May I ask you why?
You see - I offered FREE SEMINAR to all getbig members - and many didn't come.
What did you guys think - I am joking?
LOL, of course we didn't think you were joking. I can't remember why we didn't come, I know Lori wanted to but I think I was probably working (I do that alot) and couldn't get away. If you have another one, we'll be there.
P.S. I'm going to try to make it down on Thursday, will you be there then?
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1. wtf?
It means what I do is train athletes. High school, College and Professional, I'm sorry, I didn't quite get what competitive sport YOU SAID you played?
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It means what I do is train athletes. High school, College and Professional, I'm sorry, I didn't quite get what competitive sport YOU SAID you played?
i'm so happy for you. :D
now what about the other 2 points ???
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i'm so happy for you. :D
now what about the other 2 points ???
Again...what competitive sport you said you played?
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ALL GIANT SETS ;D
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Again...what competitive sport you said you played?
and this is relevant because...
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Who feels like poppin' 15IU of Humalog after reading this thread?
*raises hand*
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who feels like poppin milos after reading this thread?
*raises hand*
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who feels like poppin milos after reading this thread?
*raises hand*
why not take him up on his challenge and go out there and fight him then, tough guy?
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why not take him up on his challenge and go out there and fight him then, tough guy?
try and keep up scottfatter. he's coming to me.
btw, why don't you go find another dirty window somewhere and post an upadated pic.
i want to see if there is any correlation between the rolls of fat under your arm (the only visible body part) and how many chins you've got?
more chins than a chinese phone directory.
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and this is relevant because...
Because you said in another post that you were not a BBr but a athlete that plays a competitve sport. I've been in the BBing industry for more than 30 years, quit training BBers in the early 90's to concentrait on training competitve athletes. I do consider myself as somewhat of an expert at training COMPETITIVE athletes and the science that goes behind such training, there is more science (albeit not an exact science) in the chemical side of BBing rather than the training side.......I concentrait more on the science of the training of competitive athletes, but knowing both gives me more of an advantage than most "trainers".
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try and keep up scottfatter. he's coming to me.
btw, why don't you go find another dirty window somewhere and post an upadated pic.
i want to see if there is any correlation between the rolls of fat under your arm (the only visible body part) and how many chins you've got?
more chins than a chinese phone directory.
hahahhahaa, who are you kidding, you're not going to fight anyone, you're too scared to even post a picture. :D
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try and keep up scottfatter. he's coming to me.
btw, why don't you go find another dirty window somewhere and post an upadated pic.
i want to see if there is any correlation between the rolls of fat under your arm (the only visible body part) and how many chins you've got?
more chins than a chinese phone directory.
I can see you've made alot of friends on here because of your big mouth!
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I can see you've made alot of friends on here because of your big mouth!
he's trying like crazy to divert attention away from Milos kicking his ass, hahahaha, he's terrified.
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Because you said in another post that you were not a BBr but a athlete that plays a competitve sport. I've been in the BBing industry for more than 30 years, quit training BBers in the early 90's to concentrait on training competitve athletes. I do consider myself as somewhat of an expert at training COMPETITIVE athletes and the science that goes behind such training, there is more science (albeit not an exact science) in the chemical side of BBing rather than the training side.......I concentrait more on the science of the training of competitive athletes, but knowing both gives me more of an advantage than most "trainers".
great, so wtf has that got to do with me?
look, all i asked you was to tell me what drugs you think pro bbers were taking to get shredded in the 70s and 80s and why/how you think milos can be a cut 255 on just insulin, with no other anabolics? seeing as you are such an authority on the subject this should be a pinch so i don't get why you have such difficulty?
you do realise that if he is in this condition at 255 and 43 yrs he is actually bigger than he was during the peak of his career when he was taking steroids, igf 1, plasma expanders, synthol, gh and insulin (and there just the ones we know about), but now he apparently only requires insulin. rigggght.
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LOL, of course we didn't think you were joking. I can't remember why we didn't come, I know Lori wanted to but I think I was probably working (I do that alot) and couldn't get away. If you have another one, we'll be there.
P.S. I'm going to try to make it down on Thursday, will you be there then?
Lori just came home and reminded me my son had an out of town travelball game that weekend.
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he's trying like crazy to divert attention away from Milos kicking his ass, hahahaha, he's terrified.
yeah, i'm terrified. that's why i'm still here. please don't confuse your train of thought with mine.
milos and i are pming details. so far the only stumbling block is apparently my name. this despite my making it very clear right from the begining that it wouldn't matter who i am, and milos agreed to that, remember?
i am not going to get into specific details of what was discussed between myself and milos via pm (that's why it's pm), but he knows exactly why i don't want to provide my identity (at this stage anyway).
i have ntiched the drug testing requirements, my plane and accomodation, meals, hire car, etc, etc and basically trying to set up a fight card with myself and milos as a feature event.
that's all i'm interested in. milos would kick my ass in a bbing contest, retired or not, but he knows very well that i'm more than confident on this one.
you can shout out 'tough guy' and 'cage fighter' all day long if it gets your goat, but all it shows is your lack of understanding and fear of competitive fighting. mma, boxing, muai thai, etc are the ultimate sports imo. they test you more than any other sport because so much is at stake. you have all the physical attributes + tactics + courage + pressure. where do you get those things on a bbing stage? fighting is like a movie. it has drama, violence (duh), action and even a sad ending. it's perfect. :)
i am not interested in fighting for the sake of fighting, but, like milos, i am interested in competition between 2 different sports and milos believes that he can beat me at mine so why not? i know i couldn't beat him at his so he already has me there.
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yeah, i'm terrified. that's why i'm still here. please don't confuse your train of thought with mine.
milos and i are pming details. so far the only stumbling block is apparently my name. this despite my making it very clear right from the begining that it wouldn't matter who i am, and milos agreed to that, remember?
i am not going to get into specific details of what was discussed between myself and milos via pm (that's why it's pm), but he knows exactly why i don't want to provide my identity (at this stage anyway).
i have ntiched the drug testing requirements, my plane and accomodation, meals, hire car, etc, etc and basically trying to set up a fight card with myself and milos as a feature event.
that's all i'm interested in. milos would kick my ass in a bbing contest, retired or not, but he knows very well that i'm more than confident on this one.
you can shout out 'tough guy' and 'cage fighter' all day long if it gets your goat, but all it shows is your lack of understanding and fear of competitive fighting. mma, boxing, muai thai, etc are the ultimate sports imo. they test you more than any other sport because so much is at stake. you have all the physical attributes + tactics + courage + pressure. where do you get those things on a bbing stage? fighting is like a movie. it has drama, violence (duh), action and even a sad ending. it's perfect. :)
i am not interested in fighting for the sake of fighting, but, like milos, i am interested in competition between 2 different sports and milos believes that he can beat me at mine so why not? i know i couldn't beat him at his so he already has me there.
So you come on here and accuse Milos of still being on the juice.
Milos tells you he'll pass any drug test and that his current physique is the product of his giant set training and insulin.
You call bullshit and Milos agrees to take an IOC drug test.
You then say you want to fight.
Milos agrees to fight you.
Now you don't care about whether or not Milos is on the juice and the drug test is off.
Thanks a lot asshole. A lot of us are curious as to whether Milos is completely clean.
Much more so than for a fight that everyone knows will never happen.
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So you come on here and accuse Milos of still being on the juice.
Milos tells you he'll pass any drug test and that his current physique is the product of his giant set training and insulin.
You call bullshit and Milos agrees to take an IOC drug test.
You then say you want to fight.
Milos agrees to fight you.
Now you don't care about whether or not Milos is on the juice and the drug test is off.
Thanks a lot asshole. A lot of us are curious as to whether Milos is completely clean.
Much more so than for a fight that everyone knows will never happen.
back up a bit.
scottfatter got on here and did the usual nut riding trolling and did his usual routine, 'better watch ou milos he's a cage fighter' (he really does need to get knew material). milos then requested a fight with me before i had even responded so i took him up on his challenge.
at the end of the day i know milos will beat the test. the guy has been affiliated with balco (notorious for producing gear that passes) and, no doubt has access to even better drugs that can't be tested for. did anyone see the asian games (tested) and the bbers he brought? ::) what it comes down to is, he would have to pay a shit load of money to get a throrough test and he's just not going to do that.
he seemed focused on the fight idea which was something that i know i can take him to task on so i focused on it too. we could still do it btw, but milos is obviously busy now so we'll get back to it later.
if we could work this out, who wouldn't be interested in it? it'd be great for bbing (multi functional athletes) and for milos. proves he backs his talk and if he wins he gets 60 grand u.s or maybe a lot more. we'll see what can be generated by other sponsors and the promoter.
if that doesn't work out, he can simply come to my gym and spar 5 x 5 or 3 x 5. makes more sense than going to a bodybuilding gym to spar and he still makes significant dollars if he wins. maybe i can get 40/50 grand to put down if milos can match it. ;D
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back up a bit.
scottfatter got on here and did the usual nut riding trolling and did his usual routine, 'better watch ou milos he's a cage fighter' (he really does need to get knew material). milos then requested a fight with me before i had even responded so i took him up on his challenge.
at the end of the day i know milos will beat the test. the guy has been affiliated with balco (notorious for producing gear that passes) and, no doubt has access to even better drugs that can't be tested for. did anyone see the asian games (tested) and the bbers he brought? ::) what it comes down to is, he would have to pay a shit load of money to get a throrough test and he's just not going to do that.
he seemed focused on the fight idea which was something that i know i can take him to task on so i focused on it too. we could still do it btw, but milos is obviously busy now so we'll get back to it later.
if we could work this out, who wouldn't be interested in it? it'd be great for bbing (multi functional athletes) and for milos. proves he backs his talk and if he wins he gets 60 grand u.s or maybe a lot more. we'll see what can be generated by other sponsors and the promoter.
if that doesn't work out, he can simply come to my gym and spar 5 x 5 or 3 x 5. makes more sense than going to a bodybuilding gym to spar and he still makes significant dollars if he wins. maybe i can get 40/50 grand to put down if milos can match it. ;D
Dude, I'd love to see the fight, everyone here would.
These fights NEVER end up happening though.
I'd also love to see Milos pass a complete drug test in his current shape.
That seems more likely possible than the fight.
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So you come on here and accuse Milos of still being on the juice.
Milos is still on the juice,
but he also lies.
hope this helps
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yeah, i'm terrified. that's why i'm still here. please don't confuse your train of thought with mine.
milos and i are pming details. so far the only stumbling block is apparently my name. this despite my making it very clear right from the begining that it wouldn't matter who i am, and milos agreed to that, remember?
i am not going to get into specific details of what was discussed between myself and milos via pm (that's why it's pm), but he knows exactly why i don't want to provide my identity (at this stage anyway).
i have ntiched the drug testing requirements, my plane and accomodation, meals, hire car, etc, etc and basically trying to set up a fight card with myself and milos as a feature event.
that's all i'm interested in. milos would kick my ass in a bbing contest, retired or not, but he knows very well that i'm more than confident on this one.
you can shout out 'tough guy' and 'cage fighter' all day long if it gets your goat, but all it shows is your lack of understanding and fear of competitive fighting. mma, boxing, muai thai, etc are the ultimate sports imo. they test you more than any other sport because so much is at stake. you have all the physical attributes + tactics + courage + pressure. where do you get those things on a bbing stage? fighting is like a movie. it has drama, violence (duh), action and even a sad ending. it's perfect. :)
i am not interested in fighting for the sake of fighting, but, like milos, i am interested in competition between 2 different sports and milos believes that he can beat me at mine so why not? i know i couldn't beat him at his so he already has me there.
hahahaha, you say "i'm still here" as if it takes any nuts to sit behind your keyboard and talk shit, it would be a different story if Milos was in your face.
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great, so wtf has that got to do with me?
look, all i asked you was to tell me what drugs you think pro bbers were taking to get shredded in the 70s and 80s and why/how you think milos can be a cut 255 on just insulin, with no other anabolics? seeing as you are such an authority on the subject this should be a pinch so i don't get why you have such difficulty?
you do realise that if he is in this condition at 255 and 43 yrs he is actually bigger than he was during the peak of his career when he was taking steroids, igf 1, plasma expanders, synthol, gh and insulin (and there just the ones we know about), but now he apparently only requires insulin. rigggght.
We ( I ) was taking from the 60s to mid 70s dianabol by end of 70s deca & test was added to the dibol, then in the beginning of the 80s the parabolin, vinstrol, anadrol 50, andriol, anavar etc... the the 90s GH ,IGF (IGF big disappointment) eseclin, and mid 90s the insulin was added to the endless list of performance enhancers.
Just taking drugs will never make you shredded or big with out of the training and the nutrition program + cardio and cardio and more cardio. I did this from the 60s to 00s
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Don`t be afraid to add cardio to your precontest preparation all you need just increase you diet (food) in proportion with the calories you need to maintain your muscle mass, don`t bee surprised if you even get bigger during precontest preparation.
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We ( I ) was taking from the 60s to mid 70s dianabol by end of 70s deca & test was added to the dibol, then in the beginning of the 80s the parabolin, vinstrol, anadrol 50, andriol, anavar etc... the the 90s GH ,IGF (IGF big disappointment) eseclin, and mid 90s the insulin was added to the endless list of performance enhancers.
Just taking drugs will never make you shredded or big with out of the training and the nutrition program + cardio and cardio and more cardio. I did this from the 60s to 00s
I was telling Beast8692 how back in the 70's and early 80's how androgens were usually cut out 2-4 weeks before a show, of course he knows it all and said I knew nothing. I don't think he quite realizes I was doing this crap before he was even a thought in his daddys pants :-\
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another pussy that won't post his pic or name, but wants someone else to jump on a plane and fight them ::)
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lol
you will.
you are a bber aren't you? well, imagine seeing one of your very own pro bbers fight 5 x 5 minute rounds for all he's worth. what would you pay for that?
you will see him prove everything, real world strength, stamina ;D, courage ;D, durability ;D, agility ;D, power, speed ;D and all those other things that real athletes are made of. this may just give bodybuilding the extra promotion it needs.
i can see it now, controversial pro bber, milos sarcev, kos pro fighter. wouldn't you all love to see that. getbig would be riding on that for years.
OK so you are a pro fighter, do you think it's going to be a cakewalk taking on Milos? Just curious, I do wish you guys were doing this at the Koloseum. I would enjoy meeting you and your know it all mouth. You've spouted your opinion like you are the only one in the world that knows anything, yet in another post you said you were "well book read" ::) maybe you should be listening to the guys with actual real life experience ( the coach, Milos).
must be a real tough guy though to be a pro fighter and challenge a bodybuilder to a fight, but won't reveal who you are. ::)
and then trying to get out of it by raising the stakes in prize money, hhmmmmm
another pussy that won't post his pic or name, but wants someone else to jump on a plane and fight them ::)
yeah, he's a real tough know it all, he's asking everyone to prove their point, but can't prove his own :-\
I hope this happens though, could be fun to watch
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back up a bit.
scottfatter got on here and did the usual nut riding trolling and did his usual routine, 'better watch ou milos he's a cage fighter' (he really does need to get knew material). milos then requested a fight with me before i had even responded so i took him up on his challenge.
at the end of the day i know milos will beat the test. the guy has been affiliated with balco (notorious for producing gear that passes) and, no doubt has access to even better drugs that can't be tested for. did anyone see the asian games (tested) and the bbers he brought? ::) what it comes down to is, he would have to pay a shit load of money to get a throrough test and he's just not going to do that.
he seemed focused on the fight idea which was something that i know i can take him to task on so i focused on it too. we could still do it btw, but milos is obviously busy now so we'll get back to it later.
if we could work this out, who wouldn't be interested in it? it'd be great for bbing (multi functional athletes) and for milos. proves he backs his talk and if he wins he gets 60 grand u.s or maybe a lot more. we'll see what can be generated by other sponsors and the promoter.
if that doesn't work out, he can simply come to my gym and spar 5 x 5 or 3 x 5. makes more sense than going to a bodybuilding gym to spar and he still makes significant dollars if he wins. maybe i can get 40/50 grand to put down if milos can match it. ;D
I'm pretty amazed of all the crap you have wrote here. Why should milos fly to your place and fight there? Why not make it the other way? No money big mma fighter? Scared?
Its funny how you offer milos "60 US$ grands" which might be generated from "sponsors" and "the promoter", how about you offer him money coming straight from your pockets?
Oh wait, i bet you don't have that, thats why you need "sponsors" "the promoter" and milos himself. This is also why you don't wanna tell us your name, MAYBE you are so famous and SO hardcore that we will have to bow down and praise you, if you ever unveil your true identity.
I hope milos just ignore you for being dumb, maybe you just want him to go to your place so you can rob him with your "mma friends" which are probably nothing but just bums.
You are a shame for starting this, now go back to your mcdonald's pos.
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lol
what am i asking here?
is it really so hard for coach to tell me what drugs he believes bbers were using 70s and 80s for the last 2 - 4 weeks to get shredded? just say the drugs coach. you are supposed to be an expert remember? your words.
...and still dying to hear how you think milos can be 255 shredded on just insulin?
even biceps has answered for him and has, in fact, described drugs that are androgenic.
do i expect milos to jump on a plane without knowing who i am?
well, why don't you all take a look back when this all started. milos agreed to fight me no matter who i was. i have given milos ALL the information he needs to make this happen, right down to his itinerary. all i need him to do is tell me when he is coming and he will find out who i am in due course. milos spouted off how he would fight me no matter who i am so what the hell gives?
scottfatter, you talking about people hiding behind computer screens is hilarious. ;D almost as funny as you talking about other people being fat. have you met pot yet?
...and yes chaos, tbh i do think it will be a cake walk fighting milos. i mean, i won't get complacent but i know exactly how it will go if/when i actually get to that point. milos outweighs my competitive weight by about 20 lbs and he is leaner at that weight than i am at 235. i am not going to tell you what/how (a good fighter never shows his hand) but all i will say on the matter is yes, i know milso is a big strong guy and he knows some stuff but i'm not going into this with my eyes shut. thanks for your concern.
believe me or not, this is what I do and i enjoy doing it, much like a tennis player enjoys playing tennis or a bber enjoys competiting in a posedown. i don't see it as the mark of a man. i have known plenty of very good fighters that have been very weak human beings. toughness is not defined by how well you fight, i'm old enough to know that and if it comes down to it, i will always call the man with the gun pointed at my head 'sir'. milos has a big mouth and this is a brilliant way to show on video and in front of an audience what happens to big egotistical bbers with big mouths. this is not about proving my manhood, it won't. i'd simply love the opportunity to do this, it would be a lot of fun. imagine how much fun milos would have if i went to his gym and trained with him, doing all the exercise the way he does them? i would be puking my guts up in about 30 minutes, wouldn't be able to walk and milos would be laughing his head off at me for thinking i could challenge him at his game.
you all may call me an asshole, but i'm not as easily seduced by what milos says without any proof.
milos and coach can't do it, so someone, ANYONE, show me:
how milos' kns products do what he claims? his 9 yr old daughter can do it apparently so why not milos?
how you can be convicted on a conspiracy charge merely by requesting info about steroids on the internet or how the other guy can convicted for simply saying he doesn't know.
why, after all the talk about how easy it was going to be, milos still can't prove his charges against chua nearly a full year later (even the ifbb gave up on him)?
show me any well versed person on insulin (i know coach has no idea) that can verify that you can sustain a cut up 255lb body like milos' on insulin alone. Disgusted? Palumbo? Chad? gh? ANYONE?
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forget all the money Beast and forget all the rambling shit, ive just read through this crap and as far as im concerned the only way this should go down is you get on a plane go to his gym as previously agreed, and fight for fuck all, all this adding on shit is just a smokescreen for getting your arse out of it, your calling out a bodybuilder to fight in your domain after being both, i think its a pussy act, your a pugilist, hes a bodybuilder but hes keen to have a go, but from an exfighter bodybuilder point of view i think its weak as it ain't his game, but hes put his hand up, so do the right thing and get over there and fight him in his backyard, its your fight your the fighter, if he wanted to spank your arse in a leg workout im sure he would come to you.
Just get on with it, because from a neutral point of view it looks like your stalling, which = pussy, back it up or lose creditability on get big
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...and yes chaos, tbh i do think it will be a cake walk fighting milos. i mean, i won't get complacent but i know exactly how it will go if/when i actually get to that point. milos outweighs my competitive weight by about 20 lbs and he is leaner at that weight than i am at 235. i am not going to tell you what/how (a good fighter never shows his hand) but all i will say on the matter is yes, i know milso is a big strong guy and he knows some stuff but i'm not going into this with my eyes shut. thanks for your concern.
how you can be convicted on a conspiracy charge merely by requesting info about steroids on the internet or how the other guy can convicted for simply saying he doesn't know.
why, after all the talk about how easy it was going to be, milos still can't prove his charges against chua nearly a full year later (even the ifbb gave up on him)?
show me any well versed person on insulin (i know coach has no idea) that can verify that you can sustain a cut up 255lb body like milos' on insulin alone. Disgusted? Palumbo? Chad? gh? ANYONE?
first off, I have no concern for you, I do think you are taking it lightly, I guess we'll see what happens.
Secondly, from what I remember he was never "convicted", he had a plea, never went to trial, from what I remember. May not be accurate, but close.
Third, my issue comes up when you come here telling everyone else to prove he can do this or that, when you haven't posted anything to prove otherwise. Just your word, saying he can't be this big without AAS, says you, prove it. Thats all you're asking of other people, now I'm asking it of you, prove he can't maintain 255lbs on insulin and diet alone.
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forget all the money Beast and forget all the rambling shit, ive just read through this crap and as far as im concerned the only way this should go down is you get on a plane go to his gym as previously agreed, and fight for fuck all, all this adding on shit is just a smokescreen for getting your arse out of it, your calling out a bodybuilder to fight in your domain after being both, i think its a pussy act, your a pugilist, hes a bodybuilder but hes keen to have a go, but from an exfighter bodybuilder point of view i think its weak as it ain't his game, but hes put his hand up, so do the right thing and get over there and fight him in his backyard, its your fight your the fighter, if he wanted to spank your arse in a leg workout im sure he would come to you.
Just get on with it, because from a neutral point of view it looks like your stalling, which = pussy, back it up or lose creditability on get big
again, this is not about ME calling milos out (to fight). milos called me out.
i simply obliged and he PROMISED to meet me on my terms. milos was the first to say he would come to me. the guy would be more out of pocket with the original plan of paying for my return tickets (manager aswell), accomodation, meals, stringent drug testing (much dollars there).
this is not about me just starting some shit on a message board, milos CALLED ME OUT. fighting was the last thing i wanted to do with anyone here, but scottfatter threw a bait out to milos and, as usual, milos swallowed the whole fucking rig.
if i challenged milos, FUCK YEAH, the onus would be upon ME to go looking for him, but it didn't go down like that.
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again, this is not about ME calling milos out (to fight). milos called me out.
i simply obliged and he PROMISED to meet me on my terms. milos was the first to say he would come to me. the guys would be more out of pocket with the original plan of paying for my return tickets (manager aswell), accomodation, meals, stringent drug testing (much dollars there).
this is not about me just starting some shit on a message board, milos CALLED ME OUT. fighting was the last thing i wanted to do with anyone here, but scottfatter through a bait out to milos and, as usual, milos swallowed the whole fucking rig.
if i challenged milos, FUCK YEAH, the onus would be upon ME to go looking for him, but it didn't go down like that.
You won't post a pic, yet you call out everyone else. You say you'll fight Milos, yet in a PM you tell him you can't give your real name..........MMMmmmmmm!!
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first off, I have no concern for you, I do think you are taking it lightly, I guess we'll see what happens.
Secondly, from what I remember he was never "convicted", he had a plea, never went to trial, from what I remember. May not be accurate, but close.
Third, my issue comes up when you come here telling everyone else to prove he can do this or that, when you haven't posted anything to prove otherwise. Just your word, saying he can't be this big without AAS, says you, prove it. Thats all you're asking of other people, now I'm asking it of you, prove he can't maintain 255lbs on insulin and diet alone.
he pled guilty and thus was convicted of the crime. the conviction will forever stand against his name.
where am i coming from? i am an anonymous message board user that is calling bs on milos slin only. why, because i can see androgenic sides in the colour of his skin and muscle hardness and i know, as anabolic as insulin is, it doesn not cause this w/o androgenic anabolic steroids bheing administered also. i know this from anecdotal evidence of what of seen of athletes that use these drugs and common sense. if insulin only could give you development like this, all the other bbing drugs would become obsolete and women bbers would not have to worry about hair on their backs, a baritone voice or a penoris anymore.
however, you know what? you're right, i don't have evidence so i concede that point to milos. as i will concede to jay if he ever comes here and says he no longer takes gear, priest on the 200mgs of deca per week, buff goddess is just a really big natural girl and gustavo on whatever he's saying lately.
coach, you are right. you are an expert on bodybuilding! why? because you say you are and that is good enough for me. :D
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You won't post a pic, yet you call out everyone else. You say you'll fight Milos, yet in a PM you tell him you can't give your real name..........MMMmmmmmm!!
yes and i told him the reaon why. btw, i respect milos for not revealing that or any other details i told him via pm and i will also respect milos' wishes on that.
pm is pm for a reason.
coach, you and milos are happy to reveal your identity. i respect you both for that, but i never came to this board with that intention and i'm not about to do it now just because of a pissy internet debate.
my name really is NOT a deal breaker. what if i said my name was fred bloggs, would that verify anything? of course not. milos agreed to fight me no matter who i was. that condition was agreed to by both of us right from the start.
his part of the bargain is dead easy and much much cheaper. all he has to do now is pay for his flight over here. everything else will be done for him.
i will concede the drug test because it would just be an expensive waste of time anyway (on his part). milos knows very well how to beat the most stringent of current tests, i'm sure. look at his guy that passed the asia games? disclaimer: i don't know anything for fact here. i am giving an uneducated oipinion and, for all i know, marcus ruhl just uses celltech.
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hold on a sec, just exactly...who really gives a fuck ?
Well..mate... I give.
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Milos I repeat will you have a booth at the Arnold Classic and will you have product for sale?
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yes and i told him the reaon why. btw, i respect milos for not revealing that or any other details i told him via pm and i will also respect milos' wishes on that.
pm is pm for a reason.
coach, you and milos are happy to reveal your identity. i respect you both for that, but i never came to this board with that intention and i'm not about to do it now just because of a pissy internet debate.
my name really is NOT a deal breaker. what if i said my name was fred bloggs, would that verify anything? of course not. milos agreed to fight me no matter who i was. that condition was agreed to by both of us right from the start.
his part of the bargain is dead easy and much much cheaper. all he has to do now is pay for his flight over here. everything else will be done for him.
i will concede the drug test because it would just be an expensive waste of time anyway (on his part). milos knows very well how to beat the most stringent of current tests, i'm sure. look at his guy that passed the asia games? disclaimer: i don't know anything for fact here. i am giving an uneducated oipinion and, for all i know, marcus ruhl just uses celltech.
Lol, 'Beast8692' is wriggling and twisting and will do anything to avoid the wrath of Milos. Maybe his mother should make him a nice cup of warm milk. Ah, what the hell - a couple of cookies as well.
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LOL "beast" you are a shame.
Following your logic, will you just "pay tickets" to Chile, to fight me here for us$100,000 ? Dont worry, i dont wanna tell you who i am but all you have to do is to pay the tickets, rest will be done for you.
I bet you are posting on getbig from your mcdonald's pos.
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Sadly the show ip link isnt working unless you are a moderator, else it would be so easy for me to track you down & phone you, BEAST OF THE INTERNET lol
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Here's a video of me doing MMA training:
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another pussy that won't post his pic or name, but wants someone else to jump on a plane and fight them ::)
you better watch out though SS, he is a "beast" and he is 225 pounds at 1 percent bodyfat and will fly anywhere in the world to fight anyone, aren't you absolutely terrified? ::)
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LOL "beast" you are a shame.
Following your logic, will you just "pay tickets" to Chile, to fight me here for us$100,000 ? Dont worry, i dont wanna tell you who i am but all you have to do is to pay the tickets, rest will be done for you.
I bet you are posting on getbig from your mcdonald's pos.
well
if i challenged you, without any talk of a fight from you, to a fight in your own back yard and agreed to fight you regardless of who you were then, yes, i would have to do that now wouldn't i? :-\
btw, ring me any time you want. i'm just a phone call away...lol. ;D i'm here for ya baby! :D :-*
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you better watch out though SS, he is a "beast" and he is 225 pounds at 1 percent bodyfat and will fly anywhere in the world to fight anyone, aren't you absolutely terrified? ::)
hahaha
keep trying scottfatter. you're the real champ here. :) we're all so proud of you. got any more not-pics of your herculean physique? ;D
seriously though scott, i totally agree with your stance of covering up as much of your body and face that you possibly can. you are one ugly mofo and it's in the interest of nature that you stay hidden in your mom's basement and only step out to take pics during the eclipse when no one can see you. ;)
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well
if i challenged you, without any talk of a fight from you, to a fight in your own back yard and agreed to fight you regardless of who you were then, yes, i would have to do that now wouldn't i? :-\
Wooohooo a fight!
BEAST ----> (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Gifs/Getbig.gif) <---- BENZ
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hahaha
keep trying scottfatter. you're the real champ here. :) we're all so proud of you. got any more not-pics of your herculean physique? ;D
seriously though scott, i totally agree with your stance of covering up as much of your body and face that you possibly can. you are one ugly mofo and it's in the interest of nature that you stay hidden in your mom's basement and only step out to take pics during the eclipse when no one can see you. ;)
hahahahhahaa, i'm trying to get as handsome huge and ripped as you "beast".....................oh wait a minute you're too scared to post a picture but i'll take your word on the fact that you're a 225 pound at 1 percent bodyfat ripped badass cage fighter with a 562-0 record, hahahahaha. :D
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You're 40+ years old. Give your nuts a rest from the sauce. 20+ years of drug abuse, wtf is wrong with people.
lmao ;)
Probably doesn't want to end up looking like a piece of shit like you. :D
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i have ntiched the drug testing requirements, my plane and accomodation, meals, hire car, etc, etc and basically trying to set up a fight card with myself and milos as a feature event.
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All DRUGS! :(
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hahahahhahaa, i'm trying to get as handsome huge and ripped as you "beast".....................oh wait a minute you're too scared to post a picture but i'll take your word on the fact that you're a 225 pound at 1 percent bodyfat ripped badass cage fighter with a 562-0 record, hahahahaha. :D
that 'isnt a bodybuilder' posting ona bodybuilder board....
that one threw me off...
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if i challenged you, without any talk of a fight from you, to a fight in your own back yard and agreed to fight you regardless of who you were then, yes, i would have to do that now wouldn't i? :-\
btw, ring me any time you want. i'm just a phone call away...lol. ;D i'm here for ya baby! :D :-*
What would be the point of challenging me? I take any challenge as long as you come to chile, you know, there are NO rules here. Oh wait, maybe you are scared after reading that, nevermind.
Good luck with "the promoter" haha, biggest joke ever.
ps: go back to your mcdonald's pos
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What would be the point of challenging me? I take any challenge as long as you come to chile, you know, there are NO rules here. Oh wait, maybe you are scared after reading that, nevermind.
Good luck with "the promoter" haha, biggest joke ever.
ps: go back to your mcdonald's pos
lol
you don't get my point do you?
...and you're calling me a pos. ;D
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lol
you don't get my point do you?
...and you're calling me a pos. ;D
Im not calling you a pos, im saying GO BACK TO YOUR MCDONALD'S POS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_sale
Maybe your PROMOTER is there lol, im still laughing.
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To let "Beast 8692" of the hook..........this thread needs to die.
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he pled guilty and thus was convicted of the crime. the conviction will forever stand against his name.
where am i coming from? i am an anonymous message board user that is calling bs on milos slin only. why, because i can see androgenic sides in the colour of his skin and muscle hardness and i know, as anabolic as insulin is, it doesn not cause this w/o androgenic anabolic steroids bheing administered also. i know this from anecdotal evidence of what of seen of athletes that use these drugs and common sense. if insulin only could give you development like this, all the other bbing drugs would become obsolete and women bbers would not have to worry about hair on their backs, a baritone voice or a penoris anymore.
however, you know what? you're right, i don't have evidence so i concede that point to milos. as i will concede to jay if he ever comes here and says he no longer takes gear, priest on the 200mgs of deca per week, buff goddess is just a really big natural girl and gustavo on whatever he's saying lately.
[glow=blue00]coach, you are right. you are an expert on bodybuilding! why? because you say you are and that is good enough for me. :D[/glow]
the color of his skin?? are you insane? If you get to see him face to face you would see the color and tone of his skin is white as mine. There is nothing in his skin tone that screams "drugs!" you are judging his skin color by pictures of him training? Yeah you can judge his skin color by the pics of him WHILE he's training ::)
second point, your sarcastic remarks towards Coach, you are asking people to do the same aren't you? At least we know who Coach and Milos are, you are nobody and you are challenging two guys who getbig knows have experience, who are you again? A nobody. At least until you reveal yourself, but until then you are just some jobless cagefighter in another country with too much time on his useless hands :-*
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the color of his skin?? are you insane? If you get to see him face to face you would see the color and tone of his skin is white as mine. There is nothing in his skin tone that screams "drugs!" you are judging his skin color by pictures of him training? Yeah you can judge his skin color by the pics of him WHILE he's training ::)
second point, your sarcastic remarks towards Coach, you are asking people to do the same aren't you? At least we know who Coach and Milos are, you are nobody and you are challenging two guys who getbig knows have experience, who are you again? A nobody. At least until you reveal yourself, but until then you are just some jobless cagefighter in another country with too much time on his useless hands :-*
chaos
look back at my posts. i have asked very simple questions for said experts to back up their expert opinion with a shred of evidence.
what did i repeatedly ask coach? were they hard questions, seeing as he was the one telling the story in the first place?
same with milos. tell me how my questions were sarcastic? was i supposed to say, "gee milos, you're really great and thanks so much for designing your wonderful supplements, sugar and protein? who would have thought. wow! :D"
"can i order a 6 month supply asap. here's my money order for $5000.00. i wanna get big like you man." ::)
you've got a point though. i shouldn't be calling coach or milos a fraud or stupid and i apologise for that (2 wrongs don't make a right). it's just that when you've asked the same question a million times and the poster continually comes back with bs, you tend to question their cred.
you, and others seem to be missing the point here. i have never boasted about being a fighter. i have never even said i was a fighter. i come here for bbing info, not picking opponents (that's not my job). milos called me out after he got prompted by knob jockey. go look back over the thread and see for yourself what transpired. all i said was 'ok let's fight'. the man didn't care (then) who i was. just like a typical egomaniacal bber he jumped in chin first and promised something he couldn't deliver. when it finally occurred to him, THEN he wanted to know my identity.
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YAWN
Milos won a on points, you were officilally owned by the crazy serb.
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chaos
look back at my posts. i have asked very simple questions for said experts to back up their expert opinion with a shred of evidence.
what did i repeatedly ask coach? were they hard questions, seeing as he was the one telling the story in the first place?
same with milos. tell me how my questions were sarcastic? was i supposed to say, "gee milos, you're really great and thanks so much for designing your wonderful supplements, sugar and protein? who would have thought. wow! :D"
"can i order a 6 month supply asap. here's my money order for $5000.00. i wanna get big like you man." ::)
you've got a point though. i shouldn't be calling coach or milos a fraud or stupid and i apologise for that (2 wrongs don't make a right). it's just that when you've asked the same question a million times and the poster continually comes back with bs, you tend to question their cred.
you, and others seem to be missing the point here. i have never boasted about being a fighter. i have never even said i was a fighter. i come here for bbing info, not picking opponents (that's not my job). milos called me out after he got prompted by knob jockey. go look back over the thread and see for yourself what transpired. all i said was 'ok let's fight'. the man didn't care (then) who i was. just like a typical egomaniacal bber he jumped in chin first and promised something he couldn't deliver. when it finally occurred to him, THEN he wanted to know my identity.
Dude, you don't seem to understand that once you've had it, it doesn't take much too regain it, keep it and refine it, I know it's laymen, because i'm not going to get into the physiological reason on why) but it's as simple as that!
I also saw your IM to GH15, dude thinks anyone with a decent build is on a ton of crap, and if it is Ruhl, it's all the more reason to think he's full of shit.
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chaos
look back at my posts. i have asked very simple questions for said experts to back up their expert opinion with a shred of evidence.
what did i repeatedly ask coach? were they hard questions, seeing as he was the one telling the story in the first place?
same with milos. tell me how my questions were sarcastic? was i supposed to say, "gee milos, you're really great and thanks so much for designing your wonderful supplements, sugar and protein? who would have thought. wow! :D"
"can i order a 6 month supply asap. here's my money order for $5000.00. i wanna get big like you man." ::)
you've got a point though. i shouldn't be calling coach or milos a fraud or stupid and i apologise for that (2 wrongs don't make a right). it's just that when you've asked the same question a million times and the poster continually comes back with bs, you tend to question their cred.
you, and others seem to be missing the point here. i have never boasted about being a fighter. i have never even said i was a fighter. i come here for bbing info, not picking opponents (that's not my job). milos called me out after he got prompted by knob jockey. go look back over the thread and see for yourself what transpired. all i said was 'ok let's fight'. the man didn't care (then) who i was. just like a typical egomaniacal bber he jumped in chin first and promised something he couldn't deliver. when it finally occurred to him, THEN he wanted to know my identity.
and you aren't seeing my point, you are saying it is not possible to be 255 @ 6%bf on insulin only, but Milos is saying he is just that, with insulin and diet(shakes,whatever) now I'll make it real clear:
PROVE THAT HE CAN"T BE 255LBS @ 6%BF ON INSULIN AND DIET ONLY. SHOW A STUDY OR PROVIDE A LINK THAT PROVES THE EFFECTS OF INSULIN IN A WELL TRAINED AND SEASONED BODYBUILDER.
that's my point, you are questioning their theories, now I'm questioning yours, where is your shred of evidence?
By no means am I saying follow blindly, but if you were to develop and supplement would you go around and give away how/why it works and what is involved so every pissant that wanted could try to replicate it?
Even if he was using AAS, after all the shit him and his family/friends went through, why the fuck would he admit it?
and I quoted a bit further back where you claimed to be a pro fighter
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everyone be careful. i have it on good authority that beast is really phil barroni :o
thats the reason he's interested in bodybuilding, but not interested in bodybuilding if you catch my meaning.
he's scared 'the man' will find out he's on here looking for gear info from milos and gh15 ::)
true story
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everyone be careful. i have it on good authority that beast is really phil barroni :o
thats the reason he's interested in bodybuilding, but not interested in bodybuilding if you catch my meaning.
he's scared 'the man' will find out he's on here looking for gear info from milos and gh15 ::)
true story
No shit??
Who the fuck is Phil Maccaroni? I wouldn't care if it was Al Gore looking for gear info, so who gives a shit?
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No shit??
Who the fuck is Phil Maccaroni? I wouldn't care if it was Al Gore looking for gear info, so who gives a shit?
i told you 'the man' gives a shit :o ;D
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i told you 'the man' gives a shit :o ;D
So who's Phil Baroni Maccaroni??
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I dont think its Phil Baroni, I dont think Phil is smarted enough to use a Computer...
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Bump for one of the coolest thread in getbig history
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are you not supposed to pay something when you dig up a 7 yo topic?
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When is milos gonna start posting again?
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soon I hope 8)
we didn't hear much from him after what happened with his wife
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I have seen dozens of competitors use insulin, usually 10-20IU post workout (Humalog mostly), and I have never seen it do much. Usually the guys couldn't really tell if it was doing anything. Anyone see the magic 30-40 pound muscle increase, which Milos talks about, with their own eyes? What were they taking along side the insulin?
not at That does but around 60 I have seen magic but it doesn't last long after you stop but it definitely works try it I would like to try lantus but to $$$ and unhealthy
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not at That does but around 60 I have seen magic but it doesn't last long after you stop but it definitely works try it I would like to try lantus but to $$$ and unhealthy
Usually insulin w/o GH (especially insulin w/o anabolic) is a disappointment.
Back when I started using insulin in early 99, there was damn near nobody on these boards with experience or willing or able to give advice.. Getting tons of the usual "insulin will kill you in a heartbeat blah blah blah" responses, usually from guys who had no experience with it. had to actually ask Nasser and milos themselves after telling them I already had the insulin and was gonna use it reguardless. Then when I started posting (usually on the UG, Rolex,& the grade) what I was doing, after progressing from the "starter" 5-10iu post workout doses amd on to higher doses multiple times per day, I got tons of the typical "that's not possible if you use that much you would die for sure blah blah blah", responses... And that's back when I'd be using 45-60iu/day total spread over 4-5 doses having to experiment on myself because nobody else (at least on these boards) had experience with it. Years and years later I came to the conclusion that insulin isn't all that great, especially like I said above without GH. And a large part of this popularity and meth came from marketing done by companies such as EAS and MuscleTech to push products such as phosphagen HP and Cell-tech.
Far as these claims that insulin is by far the most anabolic hormone in the body, well I have yet to see any studies that back that claim up. The real world results don't back up that claim either. When a guy puts on 20 30 or 40 pounds when adding insulin, how much of that weight is tissue growth, and how much of it is from increased glycogen uptake? I forget what the actual # is without looking back through my notes (I should known this off tje top of my head but I'm drawing a blank for some reason), but I believe for every gram of glucose stored in muscle it will bring 2.7g of water along with it. Store 1,000g glucose (2.2lbs) and you'll end up 3,700grams (8lbs) heavier... Notice I said *store*, not eat. Add to that how much water creatine causes to.be retained and you have even bigger poundage jumps. That's all great cuz you're bigger n heavier n have increasedncellular leverage so you're stronger and all, but hiw much is actually hypertrophy?
*tried 3x to post this stuff but shit kept freezing so ended up just copy/pasting each post onto this one
**posting this as I'm looking at bottles of Lantus, Apidra, NovolinR, & Novolin 70/30 in my fridge & I can't be bothered to do a shot of any of them lol
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Usually insulin w/o GH (especially insulin w/o anabolic) is a disappointment.
Back when I started using insulin in early 99, there was damn near nobody on these boards with experience or willing or able to give advice.. Getting tons of the usual "insulin will kill you in a heartbeat blah blah blah" responses, usually from guys who had no experience with it. had to actually ask Nasser and milos themselves after telling them I already had the insulin and was gonna use it reguardless. Then when I started posting (usually on the UG, Rolex,& the grade) what I was doing, after progressing from the "starter" 5-10iu post workout doses amd on to higher doses multiple times per day, I got tons of the typical "that's not possible if you use that much you would die for sure blah blah blah", responses... And that's back when I'd be using 45-60iu/day total spread over 4-5 doses having to experiment on myself because nobody else (at least on these boards) had experience with it. Years and years later I came to the conclusion that insulin isn't all that great, especially like I said above without GH. And a large part of this popularity and meth came from marketing done by companies such as EAS and MuscleTech to push products such as phosphagen HP and Cell-tech.
Far as these claims that insulin is by far the most anabolic hormone in the body, well I have yet to see any studies that back that claim up. The real world results don't back up that claim either. When a guy puts on 20 30 or 40 pounds when adding insulin, how much of that weight is tissue growth, and how much of it is from increased glycogen uptake? I forget what the actual # is without looking back through my notes (I should known this off tje top of my head but I'm drawing a blank for some reason), but I believe for every gram of glucose stored in muscle it will bring 2.7g of water along with it. Store 1,000g glucose (2.2lbs) and you'll end up 3,700grams (8lbs) heavier... Notice I said *store*, not eat. Add to that how much water creatine causes to.be retained and you have even bigger poundage jumps. That's all great cuz you're bigger n heavier n have increasedncellular leverage so you're stronger and all, but hiw much is actually hypertrophy?
*tried 3x to post this stuff but shit kept freezing so ended up just copy/pasting each post onto this one
**posting this as I'm looking at bottles of Lantus, Apidra, NovolinR, & Novolin 70/30 in my fridge & I can't be bothered to do a shot of any of them lol
than efs I had a total different experience it was like magic but I'm half native American and there all borderline diabetic so that may be the reason. I may have just been correcting a defect I imagine a lot of Americans are near diabetic so they would probably see hellish Gains
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than efs I had a total different experience it was like magic but I'm half native American and there all borderline diabetic so that may be the reason. I may have just been correcting a defect I imagine a lot of Americans are near diabetic so they would probably see hellish Gains
They're diabetic due to alcoholism and poor nutrition.
Like I said, how much of the weight gain is actual hypertrophy, and how much is water?
Insulin itself increases water retention/edema, not just the water that makes up glycogen (glucose + water = glycogen), so its not hard to put on "weight". I've never seen anythingbthats shown how much of the weight gain is actual tissue growth, though
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Well it would have to work or everone wouldn't do it maybe I'm wrong. Everyone uses it why would that if it doesn't work.