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Discuss ;)
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I humbly thank you for a topic never discussed before
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Ronnie
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This is a great idea! We need more threads like these :)
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Coleman no doubt about it.
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coleman easily
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Coleman.
An alternative question:
"Dorian Yates with his mouth around IFBB judges' dicks vs. Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?" That would go to Yates
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hold on guys... HOLD ON!
Doesn't Dorian have a grainer look than Ronnie? We got to discuss this in greater detail my friends. Glad a thread like this finally exists for constructive opinion exchange
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hold on guys... HOLD ON!
Doesn't Dorian have a grainer look than Ronnie? We got to discuss this in greater detail my friends. Glad a thread like this finally exists for constructive opinion exchange
look at Dorian's left arm here, now that's HUGE!!! ;D
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This potential has thread.
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look at Dorian's left arm here, now that's HUGE!!! ;D
Wait, Yates' pics never tell the whole story. You had to see him in person ;D
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Why don't we start by analyzing those guys' backs first. Which one has a better one?
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Oh, why did you creat this thread?
We have one super long already. :-\
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Well first of all which is Ronnie's best - 98 or 99? or 2003? Or 2001 AC?
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ND can you post NON-photoshopped pics of Yates for a Change? ::)
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Well first of all which is Ronnie's best - 98 or 99? or 2003? Or 2001 AC?
hard to say, he looked absolutely incredible those first two Olympia years.
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Coleman no doubt about it.
coleman easily
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Dudes.....was there EVER a doubt? ::) Nothing against Dorian, but, c'mon......Ronnie was the shit.
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Ronnie would win easily he was just too big and ripped with shape and separation Dorian simply couldn't match.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999englishgrandprix/29.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/DJINN_123/fun0092.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/DJINN_123/comp985.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc174.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/DJINN_123/Ronnie_Coleman_photo180.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/DJINN_123/Ronnie_Coleman_photo629.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc624.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc199.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc104.jpg)
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Ronnie would win easily he was just too big and ripped with shape and separation Dorian simply couldn't match.
How about Ronnie's calves? I think Dorian just might win this one!!
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How about Ronnie's calves? I think Dorian just might win this one!!
Yeah, but arms are more significant than calves. Whatever credit Yates earns for his calves he more than loses in his lack of arms!
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:o :o What show was this from??
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/DJINN_123/fun0092.jpg)
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Yeah, but arms are more significant than calves. Whatever credit Yates earns for his calves he more than loses in his lack of arms!
Of course, we shouldn't forgot someone who had it everything.. calves, back, arms, you name it... the great Nasser!!
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Of course, we shouldn't forgot someone who had it everything.. calves, back, arms, you name it... the great Nasser!!
hahaha, even beats Dorian here in a back-pose!!
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Dorian is white so he wins by default
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Dorian Yates is better than Ronnie Coleman.
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Dorian Yates is better than Ronnie Coleman.
Pics or you're lying
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy186.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/totw_40_blap_fbig.jpg)
(http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/275/915/26/o_dorian_yates.JPG)
(http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3071/dsc3710ar7.jpg)
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In a "sport" based this heavy on science (read as drugs) you can never compare past winners with present or more recent winners. Its like comparing cars built with todays tech with cars from the 40s.
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Dorian Yates is better than Ronnie Coleman. not better than Nasser
Fixed
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Pics or you're lying
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Head to Head .Dorian Yates 8...Ronnie Coleman 0. 1993 MR OLYMPIA no weak bodyparts @ all, set new standard for size, detail,etc... Ronnie Coleman 1998-2005 Awesome!!!...set new standard for size,seperation (@ 283-287Lbs) etc...Ronnie @ his best? 2001, 1998, 2003.....Calves were never in porportion to his massive Quads. so why would a 1998,2001,2003 Ronnie with out of balance Calves beat a 1993 Dorian yates? yes hes more massive, has a bigger whao factor, bigger arms, chest, quads, Back will always be a toss-up etc...Dorian in 1993 was Complete...Ronnie never was.
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Fixed
Nasser is simply incredible.
Open challenge - can anyone post any onstage picture of Nasser (95 or later) vs. Dorian that shows Dorian look better in anything other than back or calves?
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;)
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Head to Head .Dorian Yates 8...Ronnie Coleman 0. 1993 MR OLYMPIA no weak bodyparts @ all, set new standard for size, detail,etc... Ronnie Coleman 1998-2005 Awesome!!!...set new standard for size,seperation (@ 283-287Lbs) etc...Ronnie @ his best? 2001, 1998, 2003.....Calves were never in porportion to his massive Quads. so why would a 1998,2001,2003 Ronnie with out of balance Calves beat a 1993 Dorian yates? yes hes more massive, has a bigger whao factor, bigger arms, chest, quads, Back will always be a toss-up etc...Dorian in 1993 was Complete...Ronnie never was.
Dorian had plenty of weaknesses, small torn arms, quads WAY too small for calves.
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8)
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Dorian had plenty of weaknesses, small torn arms, quads WAY too small for calves.
Did Dorian have small torn arms in 1993? show us pics in 1993 of Dorians Quads being WAY too small for his calves?
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Did Dorian have small torn arms in 1993? show us pics in 1993 of Dorians Quads being WAY too small for his calves?
its actually pretty obvious in most shots:
his calves overpowered his quads:
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Dorian is white, i am white, so i say Dorian.
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dorian had a massive back, but his arms were undersized for it, as his quads were undersized for his massive calves:
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right on the money Hulk, more proof of the stick arms/massive back right here.
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WHOAH
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dorian had a massive back, but his arms were undersized for it, as his quads were undersized for his massive calves:
or maybe everyone else had undersized calves for their thighs?
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Dorian trained harder than Ronnie. Way harder.
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or maybe everyone else had undersized calves for their thighs?
the master of stupidity speaks again...
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its sad how none of you three nuthuggers have even a basic knowledge of simple bodybuilding concepts, like symmetry, proportions, detail, etc.
its like you are just getting into the sport :-\
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uh oh.
dorian and ronnie at their bests LOL
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uh oh.
dorian and ronnie at their bests LOL
That's not 2001 ;)
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the master of stupidity speaks again...
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its sad how none of you three nuthuggers have even a basic knowledge of simple bodybuilding concepts, like symmetry, proportions, detail, etc.
its like you are just getting into the sport :-\
it was a joke.
from all your posts it seems you have no clue about how a bbing contest is judged. for over 2 years, you've only posted pics of ronnie doing most musculars thinking that's an entire show/career is based on.
could you be any more of a moron?
you even started a new thread about this the other day.
you'll say something about how i'm stupid, but yet, i've owned you and proven you wrong just about everytime with quotes and contradictions from your own posts.
(remember when you didnt think i had all the 99 olympia reviews and nothing was mentioned about ronnie's showing and the greatest of all time. not one word was mentioned to anything remotely close. want me to post those reviews again?)
and i also don't need to use fake pics to prove a point.
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none of the pics we post all the time are fake.
but your bitch HD, well, he touches up pics of your hero and was caught red handed -see the thread
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none of the pics we post all the time are fake.
but your bitch HD, well, he touches up pics of your hero and was caught red handed -see the thread
He never touched pics. He posted a pic that was shopped by mistake. You, conversely, have actually posted pics that you knew were shopped, which is much worst.
Posting a pic you don't know has been worked = innocent.
Posting a pic you know is shopped = guilty as charged.
And of course, you are doing this out of sheer revenge because ND exposed you for posting shopped pics that you knew were shopped months ago.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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:o
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He never touched pics. He posted a pic that was shopped by mistake. You, conversely, have actually posted pics that you knew were shopped, which is much worst.
Posting a pic you don't know has been worked = innocent.
Posting a pic you know is shopped = guilty as charged.
And of course, you are doing this out of sheer revenge because ND exposed you for posting shopped pics that you knew were shopped months ago.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL if the pics we posted are shopped, please post the unshopped versions LOL
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ND was caught red handed with a before and after pic,
something that has never been seen with the ronnie pics and never will
because none of them have ever been photoshopped - other than two pics from Bizzy that he was quite clear about doing it in the very post he posted them..
you morons have been crying fake since the day foredreps first posted the 99 screens because they crush your hero.and everyone can see how pathetic you are.
because everyone has seen them and seen the videos and knows they are as real as you can get.
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LOL if the pics we posted are shopped, please post the unshopped versions LOL
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ND was caught red handed with a before and after pic,
something that has never been seen with the ronnie pics and never will
because none of them have ever been photoshopped - other than two pics from Bizzy that he was quite clear about doing it in the very post he posted them..
you morons have been crying fake since the day foredreps first posted the 99 screens because they crush your hero.and everyone can see how pathetic you are.
because everyone has seen them and seen the videos and knows they are as real as you can get.
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next
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" I do this to ALL my pics "
next ;)
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god damn you guys are idiots.
so, two different people post different screencaps (the colour is different) and you think they are fake?
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oh, and KMH photo? who the fuck cares what they say?
just because they think the screens were faked does NOT mean that they were.
once again- where are the originals that were touched up?
different people posting different caps that they took is not the same as touching up existing caps
like YOU DID.
but you are too damn stupid to realize this.
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HD and suckmyasshole:
is it your position that the original caps posted by forcedreps that are all over the web are fake?
yes or no/
answer the question.
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god damn you guys are idiots.
so, two different people post different screencaps (the colour is different) and you think they are fake?
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oh, and KMH photo? who the fuck cares what they say?
just because they think the screens were faked does NOT mean that they were.
once again- where are the originals that were touched up?
different people posting different caps that they took is not the same as touching up existing caps
like YOU DID.
but you are too damn stupid to realize this.
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KMHPhoto is right on the money just the professional graphic artist who exposed YOU as well , you're busted and your failed to TRY and shift the blame on me its not just those either ;)
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.msg2534946#msg2534946
This is ME busting your accomplice admitting he sharpens pics when he denied after the graphic artist busted him ;)
Bizzy already admitted to photoshopping pics the first batch and then he was busted by me aditting he adjusts the lighting on all pics he says that need it lol
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KMHPhoto is right on the money just the professional graphic artist who exposed YOU as well , you're busted and your failed to TRY and shift the blame on me its not just those either ;)
so, do you think these pics are photoshopped:
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?s=3220c27a1324355c4252b8615f8718e6&t=4268
answer the question hypocrite. >:(
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so, do you think these pics are photoshopped:
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?s=3220c27a1324355c4252b8615f8718e6&t=4268
answer the question hypocrite. >:(
anything Bizzy posted can't be trusted sorry that's NOT Bizzy ;)
and you're a hypocrite because you're bitching about something you've done dozens of times and here is the best part I didn't even do what you claimed ;) your thread failed , nobody cares it backfired because all it did is expose your hypocrisy as usual you have nothing you've been reduced to calling Yates a human trash can , you're just sad that's it
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MY hypocisy?
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you were caught you pathetic little man.
you NEED to photoshop dorian shots because he can't compare to Ronnie at his best.
and you know it.
hence, you pulled out the dirty trick that I caught you on.
as always.
I own you and expose your underhanded bullshit for the whole board to see.
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MY hypocisy?
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you were caught you pathetic little man.
you NEED to photoshop dorian shots because he can't compare to Ronnie at his best.
and you know it.
hence, you pulled out the dirty trick that I caught you on.
as always.
I own you and expose your underhanded bullshit for the whole board to see.
Where are all these Dorian pics you keep talking about? ;) see liar , then see hypocrite
I know you have to stick to this story because you were so desperate to try and catch me in somthing but its over , you and Bizzy have been busted so entertaining I did shop that pic it would be NO difference from you doing and that' best part I didn't ;) if I did it would be a pic you would never be able to compare it to and it wouldn't be so fucking obvious
Hulkster M.O. when busted try and shift the blame to someone else bottom line YOU and Bizzy are BUSTED
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here is all the evidence anyone needs of Ronnie's dominance over Yates.
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Where are all these Dorian pics you keep talking about?
right here bitch:
hypocritricdiety busted like the pathetic desperate guy that he is:
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right here bitch:
hypocritricdiety busted like the pathetic desperate guy that he is:
I see ONE pic that I posted NOT that I photoshopped ;) again you're reduced to lying , making up quotes , knowingly using photoshopped pics , etc , etc , etc
next
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LOL if the pics we posted are shopped, please post the unshopped versions LOL
ND was caught red handed with a before and after pic,
something that has never been seen with the ronnie pics and never will
because none of them have ever been photoshopped - other than two pics from Bizzy that he was quite clear about doing it in the very post he posted them..
you morons have been crying fake since the day foredreps first posted the 99 screens because they crush your hero.and everyone can see how pathetic you are.
because everyone has seen them and seen the videos and knows they are as real as you can get.
The photos were unsharp maked. This is a fact. Why? Because all screecaps are sharpened du to the difference in contrast between video cameras and photographic pictures. I can prove this by simply pointing out that there are several different versions of the same pic. Obviously, there is only one original version of the pic, that is how the picture appeared on film. This is a fact, my friend. You have been posting shopped pictures for eons and all you have are excuses. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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"you had to see Dorian in person". ;D
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"you had to see Dorian in person". ;D
you should ask Peter McGough how much better he looked in person..
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Hulkster
Dont u get tired of this shit seriously?
Its been over 3 years buddy
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Hulkster
Dont u get tired of this shit seriously?
Its been over 3 years buddy
why would I get tired of correcting stupid people who photoshop pics and try and pass them off as real?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #41954 on: August 26, 2008, 04:39:47 AM » Quote
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I hear that ND knows a thing or 2 about photoshop..sad sad sad
yeah, look how the thread backfired LOL
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the whole board knows about your little touch up job HD
hahahahahhaha
busted.
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why would I get tired of correcting stupid people who photoshop pics and try and pass them off as real?
yeah you really corrected all of us that Flex Wheeler beat Dorian in 1993 , Ronnie Coleman at the 1997 Mr Olympia crushes Dorian at the 1995 Mr Olympia , you also corrected us about Ronnie having more detailed calves than Dorian too lol thanks for that gem , oh and Dorian only faced smaller guys and Ronnie dominated the 2001 Mr Olympia despite losing the whole prejudging , now about correcting people
and thats NOT including the TONS of photoshopped pics YOU posted and the quote you LIED about and made up .....next ;)
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sad sad
ND lives for photoshopping dorian pics...
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sad sad
ND lives for photoshopping dorian pics...
Where are these ' pics ' I'm still waiting ;)
lets see you LIED about a Shawn Ray quote , you knowingly posted dozens of photshopped pics of Ronnie and now you're meltingdown in every thread lol
I own you kid
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Hulkster GetBig January 18th
Shawn Ray mentions dorian's 93 loss of hardess in the Flex mag review of the contest...and like ND loves to say, he was there!
Flex Magazine January 1994 , page 101 quote Shawn Ray
" Me and Dorian are like apples and oranges : There's absolutely no similarity between our physiques. What we have here is a revamped , ( continued on page 102 ) new-attitude Shawn Ray agaisnt a Dorian Yates who is bigger , which doesn't necessarily mean better! "
Hulkster = BUSTED lying about a quote , couple that with Kevin Horton BUSTING him for photoshopped pics and me BUSTING his partner Bizzy for doing them and see Hulkster the hypocrite
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classic ND not being able to even have a simple command of the english language..
shawn said dorian was bigger but not better.
why was he not better?
because he was not as hard -something verified by every single comparison of 93 to the year before. esp. the ballooning waistline.
its not rocket science.
its simple english and understanding what people mean when they speak..
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HD, what would you do without us smart people to help you along?
oh thats right - you would keep ignoring quotes that work against your agenda and photoshopping more dorian pics... :-\
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When Dorian won in 1993....it was accepted that he was the best man onstage and he took the sport to a new level (at that time).
Ask Levrone, Dillett, and Wheeler.
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When Dorian won in 1993....it was accepted that he was the best man onstage and he took the sport to a new level (at that time).
Ask Levrone, Dillett, and Wheeler.
No , no according to GetBig's resident dummy Hulkster he said Flex beat Dorian in 1993
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classic ND not being able to even have a simple command of the english language..
shawn said dorian was bigger but not better.
why was he not better?
because he was not as hard -something verified by every single comparison of 93 to the year before. esp. the ballooning waistline.
its not rocket science.
its simple english and understanding what people mean when they speak..
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HD, what would you do without us smart people to help you along?
oh thats right - you would keep ignoring quotes that work against your agenda and photoshopping more dorian pics... :-\
Its such a shame you're forced to stick to this story lol everytime you're just outright proven wrong you keep spouting your same old bull shit , when your wrong you just keep typing the same shit your GetBig's own Baghdad Bob . stop typing your giving me douche chills
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why don't you go back to doing what you do best:
photoshopping dorian pics for us to expose you for posting..
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why don't you go back to doing what you do best:
photoshopping dorian pics for us to expose you for posting..
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I see your bump failed on your thread so no you're forced to follow ME around trying to rehash the same shit lol you're a failure ;)
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little do you know that you now have people commenting all over the board about your 'photoshopping' skills...
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so much for 'backfiring"
LOL
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little do you know that you now have people commenting all over the board about your 'photoshopping' skills...
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so much for 'backfiring"
LOL
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yeah sure ::) you trying to bump that thread and when that failed you started posting quotes from other threads LMMFAO typical desperation NO ONE cares because even if it were true YOU did it dozens of times and YOU and your accomplish were BUSTED by a professional grahpic artist and one of the best contest photograhpers on the industry whenever you type hypocrite all you're doing is showing everyone your own hypocrisy
you're a failure as usual you hang on my every word , you follow me around like a lost puppy , your try and recruit ANYONE who will agree with you , you follow everything I do , I control your mind , you're in my pocket kid , I own you ;)
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Hulkster, just shut the fuck up already. You started that thread to get revenge on him for exposing you for posting photoshopped pics. Like I have already explained, posting shopped pics that you don't know are shopped is not the same as what you did: posting pics you knew were shopped. Dude, just STFU already. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Hulkster, just shut the fuck up already. You started that thread to get revenge on him for exposing you for posting photoshopped pics. Like I have already explained, posting shopped pics that you don't know are shopped is not the same as what you did: posting pics you knew were shopped. Dude, just STFU already. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Great post !
he's been reduced to calling Yates a human trash can he's in a dark place
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just so you idiots know:
everyone on this board can tell that the pic ND posted was shopped
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everyone on this board knows he did it.
hope this helps.
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Hulkster, just shut the fuck up already
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sick of hearing how your leader ND was caught shopping and posting dorian pics are we?
well guess what?:
too fucking bad!
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just so you idiots know:
everyone on this board can tell that the pic ND posted was shopped
and
everyone on this board knows he did it.
hope this helps.
lmfao NO ONE cares even if it was true ;) you failed you're a failure , and every post you keep typing MY name I'm so far in your head Freud couldn't get me out for you ;)
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I love reminding everyone of what a deceptive desperate hypocritical sore loser your are ND.
it made my day catching you desperately touching up dorian pics since the Muscletime 99 shot have come out.
its all you can do to recover from them.
keep on photoshopping ND!
its your only chance:
be warned there is stil LOTS more to come
ahhahahahahahahaha
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I love reminding everyone of what a deceptive desperate hypocritical sore loser your are ND.
it made my day catching you desperately touching up dorian pics since the Muscletime 99 shot have come out.
its all you can do to recover from them.
keep on photoshopping ND!
its your only chance:
be warned there is stil LOTS more to come
ahhahahahahahahaha
your a LIAR I never worked ANY pics you're reduced to lying because as usual you have NOTHING ;)\
stick the Muscletime pics up your bottom I've been posting quality 99 Olympia pics for YEARS ;)
you have NOTHING Baghdad-Bob ;)
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I've been posting quality photoshopped dorian Olympia pics for YEARS
fixed for accuracy. lol
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your a LIAR I never worked ANY pics except for those two and probably a few more to come since they just keep posting more 99 shots on muscletime and I just can't handle it
fixed again lol
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fixed for accuracy. lol
You're a liar and nothing more and a hypocrite to boot its YOU who has been posting photoshopped pictures plural for YEARS ;)
Hulkster = owned
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fixed again lol
See BaghdadBob ;)
Hulkster I own you keep chasing me around.
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I love reminding everyone of what a deceptive desperate hypocritical sore loser your are ND.
it made my day catching you desperately touching up dorian pics since the Muscletime 99 shot have come out.
its all you can do to recover from them.
keep on photoshopping ND!
its your only chance:
be warned there is stil LOTS more to come
ahhahahahahahahaha
This is what me and Ronnie think about the 1999 Mr Olympia ;)
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
Oh snap looks like someone is owned ;)
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Dorian Yates by Rear Naked Choke Rnd2.
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"oh snap"?
damn you are so GAY :-\
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You're a liar and nothing more and a hypocrite to boot its YOU who has been posting photoshopped pictures plural for YEARS ;)
Hulkster = owned
the 99 screencaps all over the web are not photoshopped.
never have been
never will be
sorry.
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the 99 screencaps all over the web are not photoshopped.
never have been
never will be
sorry.
LMFAO according to who you? The fucking guy who made them says they are the professional contest photograhper says they are the professional graphic artist says they are
Hulkster - BUSTED knowingly usining PHOTOSHOPPED PICS for YEARS NOW old news
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
99 Olympia means shit Ronnie knows it he doesn't think it ;)
next
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your a LIAR I never worked ANY pics you're reduced to lying because as usual you have NOTHING ;)\
stick the Muscletime pics up your bottom I've been posting quality 99 Olympia pics for YEARS ;)
you have NOTHING Baghdad-Bob ;)
The sad reality is that you don't see the irony and self-ownage in that phrase :-\
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Dorian Yates by Rear Naked Choke Rnd2.
Right !! so much the all-mighty 1999 Olympia LMFAO
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Right !! so much the all-mighty 1999 Olympia LMFAO
Which muscle man are you rooting for, the black one or the white one?
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LMFAO according to who you?
no, according to the people that made them.
there are several people that have taken screencaps from that video ND.
you are really stupid if you think they all have been faked independently of one another..
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http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?s=c17bea4ece17baeee20c6a52402ff724&t=4268
not faked ND.
much to your extreme disappointment.
and the sad thing is, these screens are crappy compared to the better resolution ones posted by forcedreps later on..and they still crush your hero.
cue the photoshopped dorian pics!
your gonna need em!
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http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?s=c17bea4ece17baeee20c6a52402ff724&t=4268
not faked ND.
much to your extreme disappointment.
So you're the one that likes black men?
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So you're the one that likes black men?
I only like who's physique is better, which happens to be ronnie 8)
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http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?s=c17bea4ece17baeee20c6a52402ff724&t=4268
not faked ND.
much to your extreme disappointment.
Those AREN'T the ones YOU got BUSTED using nice try , even though these were available and so were the ones made by forcedreps YOU choose to push the ones from Bizzy and HIS DON'T MATCH any of them ever wonder why? I don't ;) he is busted , you are busted , I own you , 99 Olympia means dick Ronnie said he couldn't beat Yates at what YOU consider his best , you have nothing , you are nothing and keep typing my name ;)
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how sad ND gets off on attention, even when that attention is all bad stemming from his photoshopping scandal.. :-\
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no, according to the people that made them.
there are several people that have taken screencaps from that video ND.
you are really stupid if you think they all have been faked independently of one another..
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I never claimed ALL of the 99 screencaps were fake just a LOT of the ones Bizzy made and YOU posted , he admitted to photoshopping them , and its no coincidence his don't look anything like Pains or ForcedReps ;)
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how sad ND gets off on attention, even when that attention is all bad stemming from his photoshopping scandal.. :-\
How sad Hulkster type MY name in every single , how sad Hulkster followers ME around like a lost puppy , how sad he's still posting in the Truce Thread when stopped 9 months ago , how said after getting his assed kicked in that thread he's still trying to rehash it ;)
Hulkster say my name , say my name lol
you're in my pocket kid
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Which muscle man are you rooting for, the black one or the white one?
The one Ronnie said he couldn't beat ever , the one the judging criteria favors
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I only like who's physique is better, which happens to be ronnie 8)
The black one.
Here's a few questions for both of you faggots guys...
Are you in a relationship?
How does your wife/girlfriend feel about your obsession with black men? I am assuming you are with a woman........
Do you hang posters on the wall of your ebony or ivory superman?
Have you sought, in vain, a soiled pair of his "posing trunks", ala Nasser?
Have either one of you every felt a moist vagina, besides your mothers?
If you were to meet your "hero" would you be able to contain yourself or would you blow on the spot?
Would you ask for an autograph on your chest or your ass?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out how gay you guys really are or do you swing both ways? :-\
Remember, wrap it before you tap it, especially you that go both ways....... :-X
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The black one.
Here's a few questions for both of you faggots guys...
Are you in a relationship?
How does your wife/girlfriend feel about your obsession with black men? I am assuming you are with a woman........
Do you hang posters on the wall of your ebony or ivory superman?
Have you sought, in vain, a soiled pair of his "posing trunks", ala Nasser?
Have either one of you every felt a moist vagina, besides your mothers?
If you were to meet your "hero" would you be able to contain yourself or would you blow on the spot?
Would you ask for an autograph on your chest or your ass?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out how gay you guys really are or do you swing both ways? :-\
Remember, wrap it before you tap it, especially you that go both ways....... :-X
This kid follows me like a lost puppy , he pissed because everything he ever typed has been proven wrong , his own hero doesn't even agree with him , I crushed him on the truce thread and stopped posting in it 9 months ago he's still there lol I'm so far in his head he needs to follow me around bring up the same shit , sometimes I'll entertain it others I don't , he's a toy I play with and when the novelty wears off I ignore him
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This kid follows me like a lost puppy , he pissed because everything he ever typed has been proven wrong , his own hero doesn't even agree with him , I crushed him on the truce thread and stopped posting in it 9 months ago he's still there lol I'm so far in his head he needs to follow me around bring up the same shit , sometimes I'll entertain it others I don't , he's a toy I play with and when the novelty wears off I ignore him
Are you describing Dorian Yates or that other guy that posts here?
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sick of hearing how your leader ND was caught shopping and posting dorian pics are we?
well guess what?:
too fucking bad!
No, it's too bad that you are doing this just to get back at him like a kid at a school yard, because the big bad bully ND exposed you for the fraud you are, for how you dared to post pics you knew were shopped. So he posts a pic that he didn't even know it was shopped, and you then start a thread about it getting back at him "eye for an eye" because he had previously exposed you for knowingly posting shopped pics. But of course we both know this. And I think it's funny you call ND my leader. It is you who parrots everything he does, not me. Just look at that pathetic thread you started parroting the thread he started a few months ago about you shopping pics. This only adds to the many times you parroted him in the Truce Thread, using his arguments for Dorian's supremacy to justify why Ronnie is better - like when ND said Dorian would win because he looks better in the mandatories, in response to you claiming that Ronnie has better quads, biceps, chest, etc, and you then started parroting him by saying that Ronnie is better because he looks superior in the mandatories. He is your leader, dude. ;) You are the one who plays "monkey sees, monkey does" with ND, and not me. Consider yourself royally owned. :P 8)
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No, it's too bad that you are doing this just to get back at him like a kid at a school yard, because the big bad bully ND exposed you for the fraud you are, for how you dared to post pics you knew were shopped. So he posts a pic that he didn't even know it was shopped, and you then start a thread about it getting back at him "eye for an eye" because he had previously exposed you for knowingly posting shopped pics. But of course we both know this. And I think it's funny you call ND my leader. It is you who parrots everything he does, not me. Just look at that pathetic thread you started parroting the thread he started a few months ago about you shopping pics. This only adds to the many times you parroted him in the Truce Thread, using his arguments for Dorian's supremacy to justify why Ronnie is better - like when ND said Dorian would win because he looks better in the mandatories, in response to you claiming that Ronnie has better quads, biceps, chest, etc, and you then started parroting him by saying that Ronnie is better because he looks superior in the mandatories. He is your leader, dude. ;) You are the one who plays "monkey sees, monkey does" with ND, and not me. Consider yourself royally owned. :P 8)
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Ha Ha Ha Ha Great post ! if its not me bitch slapping this dummy its you
can you believe this kid still insists the screencaps are not photoshopped? lmfao when Bizzy admitted it and his deceptive little ass posts a link to Pain's screencaps LMFAO which ironically he could have used along with forcedreps but he CHOOSE the Bizzy ones for a reason , he could have posted the dozens of scanned pics from ME he choose the Bizzy ones , Bizzy admitted to photoshoping them to boot !
He's melting down left & right calling Yates a ' human trash can ' the kids lost it.
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LOL you two morons keep saying I posted photoshopped pics that I knew were shopped.
such total bullshit.. ::)
show me these pics LOL
I have been challenging ND to do that for weeks now and he can't
why?
because I never did and he knows it
unlike him and his dorian expose hahahahaha
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heh somethings never change
hulkster is still owning nd :o
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bizzy has publicly stated that these pics were NOT shopped by him or by anyone:
I will find the post where I specifically asked him about them if you want bitches.
sorry if this bursts your dorian cum bubble lol
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LOL you two morons keep saying I posted photoshopped pics that I knew were shopped.
such total bullshit.. ::)
show me these pics LOL
I have been challenging ND to do that for weeks now and he can't
why?
because I never did and he knows it
unlike him and his dorian expose hahahahaha
I have and we have and YOU stopped posting the first batch for a reason
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heh somethings never change
hulkster is still owning nd :o
its easy to own someone who is so defeated that they have to photoshop dorian pics to compare to Ronnie 99 lol
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I have and we have and YOU stopped posting the first batch for a reason
yes, because the first batch was fucking BLURRY you fucking idiot!
the reason is better resolution
holy fuck man you are fucking stupid! ::)
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bizzy has publicly stated that these pics were NOT shopped by him or by anyone:
I will find the post where I specifically asked him about them if you want bitches.
sorry if this bursts your dorian cum bubble lol
Bizzy is a LIAR and has been proven a LIAR by me
when the graphic artist exposed you and Bizzy for sharpening pics he denied knowing what the sharpening tool was and said he never used it and then I busted his ass using the sharpening tool OVER a year ago
he's a liar , he admitted to photoshopping the first batch of pics , to think any other ones he made aren't the same is just plain stupid
the bottom line is NONE of the pics he posted match the ones from forcedreps and Pain so again you're shit out of luck
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compare the resolution hypocriticdiety:
::)
like everyone says: its easy to own you
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yes, because the first batch was fucking BLURRY you fucking idiot!
the reason is better resolution
holy fuck man you are fucking stupid! ::)
lmfao blurry LMFAO just like he didn't know what the sharpening tool was huh? ;)
next excuse http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.msg2534946#msg2534946
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compare the resolution hypocriticdiety:
::)
like everyone says: its easy to own you
always appealing to the numbers , ' like everyone says ' NO ONE agrees with you not even your hero ;)
compare Bizzy's PHOTOSHOPPED pic to one that isn't , you know the one that Horton BUSTED you using
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whats funny about your comparison is that there is no difference at all other than colour.
lol
thats what can happen when different people take different caps from different sources.
but then again, you are too damn stupid to understand that.. :-\
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how sad is it that the only way dorian yates can even come close to ronnie coleman 99 is if the ronnie 99 shots are faked.
which they aren't..
oh well.
sorry dorian.
sorry HypoDiety.
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how sad is it that the only way dorian yates can even come close to ronnie coleman 99 is if the ronnie 99 shots are faked.
which they aren't..
oh well.
sorry dorian.
sorry HypoDiety.
I laughed at ' come close '
Ronnie at the 1999 Olympia discussing Dorian Yates and how close he would come LMMFAO
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
I know so ;)
owned ...next
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lol HD breaking out quotes again when reality doesn't agree with him LOL
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lol HD breaking out quotes again when reality doesn't agree with him LOL
lmfao Reality is what YOU think is Ronnie at his best said without hesitation that he doesn't think Dorian would beat him , he KNOWS Dorian would beat him
Hulkster how does it feel knowing that you're an idiot and proven wrong by your own hero? thats gotta suck? lmfao
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how does it feel to know that even your own bitch Suckmyasshole has stated that he felt that Ronnie was just as hard in 99 as in 98 only bigger!
hahahahhahaha
you guys are a fucking circus! ::)
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how does it feel to know that even your own bitch Suckmyasshole has stated that he felt that Ronnie was just as hard in 99 as in 98 only bigger!
hahahahhahaha
you guys are a fucking circus! ::)
that changes what even if it was true? ;)
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
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how does it feel to know that even your own bitch Suckmyasshole has stated that he felt that Ronnie was just as hard in 99 as in 98 only bigger!
hahahahhahaha
you guys are a fucking circus! ::)
and please answer the question , I'll being waiting for a cognizant answer ;)
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so, your whole argument boils down to whether or not you agree with a Ronnie Coleman quote about the politics of the 90's olympia scene?
LOL
::)
no mr. o ever lost in the 90's no matter how shitty they looked (see - Yates, Dorian).
Ronnie knows this as much as everyone else does.
had dorian competed in 98 its likely the judges would have given to him, since, he looked like Kovacs in 97 yet the judges didn't give a shit..
being awarded the title
and
DESERVING the title are two completely different things.
sad, that you dont seem to understand this, yet everyone else has to correct you all the time
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how does it feel to know that even your own bitch Suckmyasshole has stated that he felt that Ronnie was just as hard in 99 as in 98 only bigger!
hahahahhahaha
you guys are a fucking circus!
When did I state that, moron? I have stated ad nauseum that Ronnie was much harder in 1998 than 1999. And you are ND's bitch given you parrot him at everything. How many more threads will you start just because he started one similar? ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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so, your whole argument boils down to whether or not you agree with a Ronnie Coleman quote about the politics of the 90's olympia scene?
LOL
::)
no mr. o ever lost in the 90's no matter how shitty they looked (see - Yates, Dorian).
Ronnie knows this as much as everyone else does.
had dorian competed in 98 its likely the judges would have given to him, since, he looked like Kovacs in 97 yet the judges didn't give a shit..
being awarded the title
and
DESERVING the title are two completely different things.
sad, that you dont seem to understand this, yet everyone else has to correct you all the time
lmfao politics MY ASS stick to your story Baghdad Bob , the Infidels are not in Baghdad LMFAO
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When did I state that, moron? I have stated ad nauseum that Ronnie was much harder in 1998 than 1999. And you are ND's bitch given you parrot him at everything. How many more threads will you start just because he started one similar?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
right here, just scroll down to your post ;D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50084.0
bow your head loser, you just got owned again
too easy 8)
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its so easy to own suckmyasshole and HypocriticDiety.
one doesn't know what he is saying or what position he takes
the other photoshops dorian pics for comparison against ronnie lol
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right here, just scroll down to your post ;D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50084.0
bow your head loser, you just got owned again
too easy 8)
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So that was 3 years ago. Who cares? I am not a computer programmed to believe in something. What matters is my opinion now, and I believe that Coleman was harder in 1998 than 99'. People change their minds...like you changed your mind about that sentence "half Italian, half amazing" not being gay and removed it from your signature, and then put it up again just to prove a point to me. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What matters is my opinion now, and I believe that Coleman was harder in 1998 than 99'
in other words, you follow ND's misinformed line of thinking like a little bitch. ::)
98 vs 99
99 was noticably harder: just like eyewitnesses like ronnie himself have said.
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So that was 3 years ago. Who cares? I am not a computer programmed to believe in something. What matters is my opinion now, and I believe that Coleman was harder in 1998 than 99'. People change their minds...like you changed your mind about that sentence "half Italian, half amazing" not being gay and removed it from your signature, and then put it up again just to prove a point to me. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
so you looked at the very same pics 3 years ago and thought he was harder in 99, then you looked at the VERY SAME PICS recently and thought he was harder in 98
are you stupid or did you have poor vision 3 years ago? ::)
did you get that plane ticket to pittsburgh yet?
oh and thanks for reminding me what a classic quote my sig was 8)
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he simply says whatever HypocriticDeity says....
::)
its that simple.
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in other words, you follow ND's misinformed line of thinking like a little bitch. ::)
hahaha can you imagine how much of a mental midget a person must be to follow a clown like ND ;D
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in other words, you follow ND's misinformed line of thinking like a little bitch. ::)
98 vs 99
99 was noticably harder: just like eyewitnesses like ronnie himself have said.
LMFAO this coming from the DUMMY who backpeddled when he said Yates lost the 1993 Olympia to FLEX
Hulkster is once again GetBig's biggest HYPOCRITE
lmfao brutal selfownage
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hahaha can you imagine how much of a mental midget a person must be to follow a clown like ND ;D
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that is a scary thought...
:-\
someone stupid enough to follow a publicly demonstrated idiot like ND?
geez.
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that is a scary thought...
:-\
someone stupid enough to follow a publicly demonstrated idiot like ND?
geez.
Hulkster prasing my intelligence LMFAO owned again ....next
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so you looked at the very same pics 3 years ago and thought he was harder in 99, then you looked at the VERY SAME PICS recently and thought he was harder in 98
are you stupid or did you have poor vision 3 years ago?
did you get that plane ticket to pittsburgh yet?
oh and thanks for reminding me what a classic quote my sig was 8)
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Ready to get owned(again)? Who said I changed my mind looking at the same pictures, moron? I changed my mind in mid 2006 when I purchased all Olympia videos going back to 1985 and watched all of Dorian's performances as well as Ronnie's. What a dumbass you are. In your despair to own me you gave yourself a brutal self-ownage. Just like when you put up your old signature back to prove to me that you don't care about what I think and it backfired by proving that I am in your mind and my approval is very important for your emotional well-being. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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that is a scary thought...
someone stupid enough to follow a publicly demonstrated idiot like ND?
geez.
Hey, Hulkster, how many more of ND's arguments for why Dorian is better than Ronnie will you parrot and use them to try to prove that Ronnie is better than Dorian? How many more threads will you start parroting ND? ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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hahaha can you imagine how much of a mental midget a person must be to follow a clown like ND ;D
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awww name calling weren't you the cry baby who complained about this before? ;) and I love how all the losers stick together , Levrone = loser , Coleman = Loser , Nasser = loser , Ray = loser
lol go form a support group and cry about how politics cost your heros to lose LMFAO
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Ready to get owned(again)? Who said I changed my mind looking at the same pictures, moron? I changed my mind in mid 2006 when I purchased all Olympia videos going back to 1985 and watched all of Dorian's performances as well as Ronnie's. What a dumbass you are. In your despair to own me you gave yourself a brutal self-ownage. Just like when you put up your old signature back to prove to me that you don't care about what I think and it backfired by proving that I am in your mind and my approval is very important for your emotional well-being. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
haha ok so you looked at video instead of pictures i'm owned ::) ;D
and your "you put that sig back because of me" line is so weak and pathetic, it shows how desperate you are after you admitted to having fantasies of beating me up and killing me all over my itty bitty internet words :D :D
you made me realize how much of a classic getbig quote it is, if that means you're "in my head" so be it ;)
get that plane ticket yet?
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awww name calling weren't you the cry baby who complained about this before? ;) and I love how all the losers stick together , Levrone = loser , Coleman = Loser , Nasser = loser , Ray = loser
lol go form a support group and cry about how politics cost your heros to lose LMFAO
if you're going to dish it out you better be able to take it ;)
don't you think it says something about how shitty of a mr. o dorian was if people bash him so much?
ronnie doesn't get bashed anywhere near as much and he beat all of our "heroes"
just think about that for a bit ;)
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don't you think it says something about how shitty of a mr. o dorian was if people bash him so much?
according to ND everyone is wrong..lol ::)
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I laughed at ' come close '
Ronnie at the 1999 Olympia discussing Dorian Yates and how close he would come LMMFAO
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
I know so
Ronnie has already proven he is incompetent to judge bodybuilding contests. He also feels he should have won the 06 Mr. Olympia. Who won that year? Oh right, Jay Cutler. ;)
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right here, just scroll down to your post
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50084.0
bow your head loser, you just got owned again
too easy
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Hillarious/Owned.jpg)
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(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Hillarious/Owned.jpg)
How is that an ownage, moron? People can and do change their opinions. An ownage is what I did to you, when I called you out on your bullshit claim that Ronnie carried more lean muscle mass at the 2001 ASC than at the 1999 Olmpia. Now that was stupid. Lol...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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whatever opinion HypocriticDiety has is the one that Suckmyasshole will have today.
::)
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How is that an ownage, Sir NeoSeminole? People can and do change their opinions. An ownage is what I did to you, when I called you out on your bullshit claim that Ronnie carried more lean muscle mass at the 2001 ASC than at the 1999 Olmpia. Now that was stupid. Lol...
you got owned b/c you denied saying that and even called Hulkster a moron only to be proven wrong. ;)
When did I state that, moron? I have stated ad nauseum that Ronnie was much harder in 1998 than 1999.
right here, just scroll down to your post
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50084.0
bow your head loser, you just got owned again
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you got owned b/c you claimed you never said that and even called Hulkster a moron only to be proven wrong. ;)
hahaha this will be a labor day that sucky will never forget :D :D
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this isn't the first time Suckmyasshole has been owned. ;D
You are an idiot. The thread was never locked. NarcissisticDeity changed the title, that's all.
Ahem, you may want to publically apologize for calling that gentleman an idiot. The thread was locked and a couple threads were started about it being locked.
Who's the idiot now, fuckface?
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Ronnie has already proven he is incompetent to judge bodybuilding contests. He also feels he should have won the 06 Mr. Olympia. Who won that year? Oh right, Jay Cutler. ;)
It doesn't matter if he's competent or NOT his opinion carries more weight than yours and the irony of YOU saying hes not qualified to judge a contest when it was YOU who dismissed three separate judges opinions as WRONG ;)
Ronnie's quotes do NOT mean Dorian would beat him however they serve a purpose he thinks very highly of Dorian Yates for a very good reason
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this isn't the first time Suckmyasshole has been owned. ;D
haha sucky is getbig's punching bag ;D
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It doesn't matter if he's competent or NOT his opinion carries more weight than yours and the irony of YOU saying hes not qualified to judge a contest when it was YOU who dismissed three separate judges opinions as WRONG
ha ha ha, why doesn't it matter? Let's hear it. Give me one good reason why it's okay for him to judge a contest between him and Dorian when he was clearly wrong about the judging at the 06 Mr. Olympia? ;)
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ha ha ha, why doesn't it matter? Let's hear it. Give me one good reason why it's okay for him to judge a contest between him and Dorian when he was clearly wrong about the judging at the 06 Mr. Olympia? ;)
It doesn't matter because................. ......its HIS opinion on a very subjective matter thats why ;) and I've saidf many times before it doesn't make it right or wrong it shows he has a MASSIVE amount of respect for Yates for a very good reason
now YOU of all people shouldn't be judging who is ' qualified ' to judge or not especially considering YOU have dismissed several judges opinions as wrong , so it doesn't matter either way because Ronnie's opinion crushes yours , and so do the judges
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It doesn't matter because................. ......its HIS opinion on a very subjective matter thats why and I've saidf many times before it doesn't make it right or wrong it shows he has a MASSIVE amount of respect for Yates for a very good reason
hmm, just as I thought. You don't have a good reason for posting that quote. An opinion that is discredited by poor judgment shown by the same individual is worthless.
now YOU of all people shouldn't be judging who is ' qualified ' to judge or not especially considering YOU have dismissed several judges opinions as wrong , so it doesn't matter either way because Ronnie's opinion crushes yours , and so do the judges
show me where I dismissed several judges' opinions. The only one I can recall is where Dorian said he had better balance than Ronnie. In this case, I'm right. It's impossible for the naked eye to tell.
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hmm, just as I thought. You don't have a good reason for posting that quote. An opinion that is discredited by poor judgment shown by the same individual is worthless.
show me where I dismissed several judges' opinions. The only one I can recall is where Dorian said he had better balance than Ronnie. In this case, I'm right. It's impossible for the naked eye to tell.
hmm, just as I thought. You don't have a good reason for posting that quote. An opinion that is discredited by poor judgment shown by the same individual is worthless.
I just told you the reason and I could care less if you think its good or not , it serves its purpose Ronnie respects Yates for a very good reason and you've posted many quotes from Flex Wheeler who I may add had Ronnie Coleman 1st after the prejudging in 2006 so once again you're a HYPOCRITE ;)
show me where I dismissed several judges' opinions. The only one I can recall is where Dorian said he had better balance than Ronnie. In this case, I'm right. It's impossible for the naked eye to tell.
Dorian Yates , Bev Francis and Roger Schwabb ALL who you dismissed
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I just told you the reason and I could care less if you think its good or not , it serves its purpose Ronnie respects Yates for a very good reason and you've posted many quotes from Flex Wheeler who I may add had Ronnie Coleman 1st after the prejudging in 2006 so once again you're a HYPOCRITE
I didn't even know Flex had Ronnie winning after prejudging. Oh well, that's just one of 30+ quotes I have. I will stop quoting him if you stop quoting Ronnie. Deal? ;)
Dorian Yates , Bev Francis and Roger Schwabb ALL who you dismissed
I asked you to show me where I dismissed them - NOT tell me who. I already acknowledged the Dorian quote. Where did I disagree with Bev Francis and Roger Schwabb?
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I didn't even know Flex had Ronnie winning after prejudging. Oh well, that's just one of 30+ quotes I have. I will stop quoting him if you stop quoting Ronnie. Deal? ;)
I asked you to show me where I dismissed them - NOT tell me who. I already acknowledged the Dorian quote. Where did I disagree with Bev Francis and Roger Schwabb?
I didn't even know Flex had Ronnie winning after prejudging. Oh well, that's just one of 30+ quotes I have. I will stop quoting him if you stop quoting Ronnie. Deal? ;)
lmfao post ALL you want because at the end of the day they're all SUBJECTIVE those 30 mean what? more people are of the opinion Ronnie is the greatest of all-time , thats textbook argument ad populum
I asked you to show me where I dismissed them - NOT tell me who. I already acknowledged the Dorian quote. Where did I disagree with Bev Francis and Roger Schwabb?
I'm not showing you jack I could careless you've been exposed before so who cares , bottom like you're a hypocrite because the NON-subjective quotes from the people who matter most you dismissed as wrong so you're right back to square one
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lmfao post ALL you want because at the end of the day they're all SUBJECTIVE those 30 mean what? more people are of the opinion Ronnie is the greatest of all-time , thats textbook argument ad populum
bwahahaha, you and your silly "argument ad populum." It doesn't apply in this case b/c the quotes I have are from people who saw both compete and are more knowledgable about judging criteria than you. Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper all know more about bodybuilding than you will ever know.
I'm not showing you jack I could careless you've been exposed before so who cares , bottom like you're a hypocrite because the NON-subjective quotes from the people who matter most you dismissed as wrong so you're right back to square one
that's b/c you have nothing to show. ;)
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haha sucky is getbig's punching bag ;D
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Look who's talking. The fag who everyone points out in thread after thread as being Getbig.com's most closeted fag. And you are so much my punching bag that you even go as far as changing your signature to prove a point to me. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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KOVACS BEATS THEM BOTH!!!
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bwahahaha, you and your silly "argument ad populum." It doesn't apply in this case b/c the quotes I have are from people who saw both compete and are more knowledgable about judging criteria than you. Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper all know more about bodybuilding than you will ever know.
that's b/c you have nothing to show. ;)
bwahahaha, you and your silly "argument ad populum." It doesn't apply in this case b/c the quotes I have are from people who saw both compete and are more knowledgable about judging criteria than you. Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper all know more about bodybuilding than you will ever know.
you're always stuck in your hypocritical logic again YOU have dismissed quotes from many , many people who saw them live and in person so you're right back to square one and the argument ad populum most certainly applies its a textbook example , you saying Ronnie is better because a bunch of people say so classic appeal to numbers it proves ONE thing that its a popular opinion Ronnie is the best ever
that's b/c you have nothing to show. ;)
sure I do and you know it , you dismissed Dorian Yates a judge , Bev Francis a judge , Roger Schwabb a judge you dismissed all their opinions as flat out wrong , I don't have the desire to go look for the quotes because it just doesn't matter to me because , lets say it was ONLY Yates the point if proven and you still look like an idiot because he's a judge and you're not and his opinion still crushes yours and ironically mines' coincides with his and yours is always in contradiction so you're fucked either way
Neo = owned either way ;)
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Hey HD, great thread about Bizzy yesterday.. lol
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its not even on the board anymore
it went NOWHERE
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you are such a pathetic loser... :-\
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IMO Dorian 93 was a match for Ronsters best showing in 98 MrO.Who was better who the fvck knows :o
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IMO Dorian 93 was a match for Ronsters best showing in 98 MrO.Who was better who the fvck knows :o
I agree, Dorian in 1993 was in my view the most COMPLETE MR OLYMPIA ever...Ronnies Condation @ the 1998 show would be his best chance against Yates in 1993, from top to bottom yates was Increadible.
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The same bunch of guys having the same argument, posting the same pics over and over.
Imagine telling your parents or girl that you have 10k+ posts on a messageboard defending your favourite roidhead.
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God, same topic over and over again. But I'll say this once more: Ronnie in '98 was probably the most impressive Mr O ever. But '93 Dorian was "modern bodybuilding" for better and worse. He changed the rules and made guys like Ronnie possible. No matter how great Coleman was, he's just a Dorian follower like most of today's Bbers.
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you're always stuck in your hypocritical logic again YOU have dismissed quotes from many , many people who saw them live and in person so you're right back to square one and the argument ad populum most certainly applies its a textbook example , you saying Ronnie is better because a bunch of people say so classic appeal to numbers it proves ONE thing that its a popular opinion Ronnie is the best ever
no, I haven't dismissed quotes from numerous people who saw both compete. You have even posted that many sources. All I've seen from you are the same 3-4 quotes used over and over again. Argument ad populum doesn't apply here b/c I never appealed to numbers to argue why Ronnie is superior. Rather, my purpose for posting the quotes is to show that the best authorities on the matter believe Ronnie at his prime is unbeatable. Your misuse of the argument fallacy would be akin to me disagreeing with 10 physicians who arrived at the same diagnosis and crying "ad populum" to discredit their judgment.
Source: http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/popular.html
"Non-fallacious examples of the ad populum: the appeal is not irrelevant when what most persons believe or what the select few believe does in fact determine what is true. Conventional truth such as the definitions of words, standard use of symbols, styles, or political elections are typical examples where the appeal to the majority , the experts, or the people-in-the-know would be relevant and so would not be fallacious.
1. If an elite group of people are in a position to know of what they speak, their authority is relevant and should not automatically be discounted. E.g., to remark that most physicians believe that a high fat diet is unhealthy, so that it follows that persons who have a high fat diet should change their eating habits, is to make a legitimate appeal."
countdown to excuses... 3... 2... 1... ;)
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1. If an elite group of people are in a position to know of what they speak, their authority is relevant and should not automatically be discounted. E.g., to remark that most physicians believe that a high fat diet is unhealthy, so that it follows that persons who have a high fat diet should change their eating habits, is to make a legitimate appeal."
countdown to excuses... 3... 2... 1... ;)
An elite group of people? Greg Valentino? Ryan Mackie? Flex Wheeler who had Ronnie first after the pre-judging in 06 I mean seriously shut up already with your nonsense you're right back to square one
and you're still a hypocrite for dismissing the opinions of the people who really matter IFBB judges ...next
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Hey HD, great thread about Bizzy yesterday.. lol
::)
its not even on the board anymore
it went NOWHERE
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you are such a pathetic loser... :-\
a pathetic loser you say? ;)
next
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An elite group of people? Greg Valentino? Ryan Mackie? Flex Wheeler who had Ronnie first after the pre-judging in 06 I mean seriously shut up already with your nonsense you're right back to square one
nice try at a diversion, idiot. Try Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper. ;)
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Bizzy May 18 , 2008
I had never know about this tool up until about a month or so ago
referring to the unmask sharpening tool
Bizzy Nov 14 , 2007
Regular pic
Sharpened
Sharpened more...even his face looks grainy in the 3rd pic...
Uh oh Bizzy is BUSTED ;)
caught in an outright LIE saying he never knew about the sharpening tool and wait a moment BUSTED a year earlier showing how he tampers with pictures
ANYTHING Bizzy posted is PHOTOSHOPPED and he is busted by me , Hulkster so much for all your ' overwhelming visual evidence ' lol
all to easy
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nice try at a diversion, idiot. Try Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper. ;)
NO diversion in the least YOU sited these guys as experts lol Greg Valentino I'm still laughing at that one
Joe Weider , Team Flex , Lonnie Teaper to the best of my knowlegde are NOT IFBB judges ;) and I notice you keep avoiding commenting on your blatant hypocrisy about dismissing IFBB judges ;)
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Look who's talking. The fag who everyone points out in thread after thread as being Getbig.com's most closeted fag. And you are so much my punching bag that you even go as far as changing your signature to prove a point to me. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
haha the guys calling me "fag" got owned by me and they can't get over it
unlike you though they haven't had thoughts of beating me up and killing me hahahaha ;D
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a pathetic loser you say? ;)
next
yup.
tell us how long did your thread last ND? ::)
it was so stupid the mods blasted it off the face of the earth in 3 seconds
hahahahahahhahahaha
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NO diversion in the least YOU sited these guys as experts lol Greg Valentino I'm still laughing at that one
what does that have to do with Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper? You're only picking the sources with the least credibility from the 30+ quotes I posted as if that discredits the rest. ::)
Joe Weider , Team Flex , Lonnie Teaper to the best of my knowlegde are NOT IFBB judges and I notice you keep avoiding commenting on your blatant hypocrisy about dismissing IFBB judges
show me where I have dismissed IFBB judges. I keep seeing you repeat this but have yet to see any evidence.
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what does that have to do with Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper? You're only picking the sources with the least credibility from the 30+ quotes I posted as if that discredits the rest. ::)
show me where I have dismissed IFBB judges. I keep seeing you repeat this but have yet to see any evidence.
what does that have to do with Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper? You're only picking the sources with the least credibility from the 30+ quotes I posted as if that discredits the rest. ::)
it doesn't matter you used that list as a crutch and included were some real ringers lol and again none of the ones you mentioned were judges so at the end of the day their opinions are just like everyone else even the ones who YOU dismissed , so now we're expected to believe these non-judges opinions carry weight but you're quick to dismiss Peter McGough as wrong but now when it suits your point of view they're valid thats makes you a hypocrite , but that's well established fact isn't it? and you're the one who claimed if you believe in one quote you have to believe in ALL but you've already disagreed with many of the people you listed so see hypocrite again
show me where I have dismissed IFBB judges. I keep seeing you repeat this but have yet to see any evidence.
I did you show you many times , I don't have the desire to look for old posts if you doubt me feel free to look them up and prove me wrong ;) anyway lets say its just the one judge you disagreed it still doesn't change the facts now does it?
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BOOM.......end of thread. :o
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BOOM.......end of thread. :o
Not even close that's not Ronnie at his best
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Not even close that's not Ronnie at his best
show me ANY picture where Dorian has that much muscular size and condition.
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show me ANY picture where Dorian has that much muscular size and condition.
LMFAO that size and condition? his conditioning is SHIT where is the separation? where is the crisp muscularity? where is the depth? he's a fucking train wreck in that pic
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LMFAO that size and condition? his conditioning is SHIT where is the separation? where is the crisp muscularity? where is the depth? he's a fucking train wreck in that pic
hahahaha, as the rope like veins and striations attest to. :o
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falcon owned dorian
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/indexddssa.jpg)
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hahahaha, as the rope like veins and striations attest to. :o
Again you're not savy on competitive bodybuilding Dave this is NOT his best by far
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falcon owned dorian
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/indexddssa.jpg)
hahahahhaaaa, you look like an underfed chicken next to him, get the fucck out of here.
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falcon owned dorian
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/indexddssa.jpg)
Yates = FalcOWNED ;)
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hahahahhaaaa, you look like an underfed chicken next to him, get the fucck out of here.
ahhahah Squad even though you have attained Gaymastery level I i will spare you this time you overfed chicken
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use this pic instead lol
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use this pic instead lol
teh falcon crushin the Dorito!!!
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he does have better arms lol
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it doesn't matter you used that list as a crutch and included were some real ringers lol and again none of the ones you mentioned were judges so at the end of the day their opinions are just like everyone else even the ones who YOU dismissed , so now we're expected to believe these non-judges opinions carry weight but you're quick to dismiss Peter McGough as wrong but now when it suits your point of view they're valid thats makes you a hypocrite , but that's well established fact isn't it? and you're the one who claimed if you believe in one quote you have to believe in ALL but you've already disagreed with many of the people you listed so see hypocrite again
yawn, I already refuted this. You're so desparate that you've resorted to regurgitating old arguments.
I did you show you many times , I don't have the desire to look for old posts if you doubt me feel free to look them up and prove me wrong anyway lets say its just the one judge you disagreed it still doesn't change the facts now does it?
no, you haven't shown me anything. All you've done is make a claim without any evidence to back it up.
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yawn, I already refuted this. You're so desparate that you've resorted to regurgitating old arguments.
no, you haven't shown me anything. All you've done is make a claim without any evidence to back it up.
lmfao the audacity of YOU claiming someone who is regurgitatinng old arguments most ironic statement
I don't have to show you , I have NO desire to show you , your opinion is worthless to me you've proven yourself consistently ignorant about competitive bodybuilding you bore me and evidence is YOU claiming Yates is flat out wrong when he said he had better conditioning than Ronnie Coleman , despite the guy being an IFBB judge
see hypocrite , see me laugh at your ignorance
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use this pic instead lol
hahahaa, or this one. ;D
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hahahaa, or this one. ;D
or this one a view most Coleman fans are used to
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lmfao the audacity of YOU claiming someone who is regurgitatinng old arguments most ironic statement
lmfao the audacity of YOU saying irony when you've been using the same old arguments longer than anyone else on Getbig. ::)
I don't have to show you , I have NO desire to show you , your opinion is worthless to me you've proven yourself consistently ignorant about competitive bodybuilding you bore me and evidence is YOU claiming Yates is flat out wrong when he said he had better conditioning than Ronnie Coleman , despite the guy being an IFBB judge
yawn, come back when you have something intelligent to say. You have been proven wrong over and over in this discussion. Your logic is flawed and your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. Your opinion is no more important than a pile of dog shit yet you claim guys like Joe Weider, Peter McGough, Shawn Perine, Greg Meritt, and Lonnie Teper are all wrong. ::) So spare me your lame retort that I'm ignorant about bodybuilding when it's you who doesn't know what the f*ck he's talking about. ;)
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You're all cokksuckers.
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hahahaa, or this one.
ND fantasizes about this pic of Dorian chasing after him and rolling around in the sand. ;D
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianRunning.jpg)
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Ronnie. Bah!
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or this one a view most Coleman fans are used to
:-X
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lmfao the audacity of YOU saying irony when you've been using the same old arguments longer than anyone else on Getbig. ::)
yawn, come back when you have something intelligent to say. You have been proven wrong over and over in this discussion. Your logic is flawed and your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. Your opinion is no more important than a pile of dog shit yet you claim guys like Joe Weider, Peter McGough, Shawn Perine, Greg Meritt, and Lonnie Teper are all wrong. ::) So spare me your lame retort that I'm ignorant about bodybuilding when it's you who doesn't know what the f*ck he's talking about. ;)
lmfao the audacity of YOU saying irony when you've been using the same old arguments longer than anyone else on Getbig. ::)
same old arguments? my argument is consistent and why? because I always knew what I was talking about , that's the difference between you and I ;) how can you form an argument when you didn't even know how contests were judged? I'll tell you , you can't. you didn't even know that balance & proportion were separate entities , you didn't know all rounds are physique rounds until I thought you ;) its YOU who had to amend your ' argument ' constantly not I.
yawn, come back when you have something intelligent to say. You have been proven wrong over and over in this discussion. Your logic is flawed and your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. Your opinion is no more important than a pile of dog shit yet you claim guys like Joe Weider, Peter McGough, Shawn Perine, Greg Meritt, and Lonnie Teper are all wrong. ::) So spare me your lame retort that I'm ignorant about bodybuilding when it's you who doesn't know what the f*ck he's talking about. ;)
I always laugh at your frustration level , and come back when I have something ' intelligent ' to say ? lol
ND fantasizes about this pic of Dorian chasing after him and rolling around in the sand. wow this was profound lmao
You've NEVER ever once proven me wrong , on the contrary my ignorant little friend , its YOU who has been constantly corrected , corrected about who is drier & harder , corrected about balance & proportion , corrected on how contests are judged , corrected about Ronnie & Dorian's all-time best showings , I mean I could go through the laundry list but you get the idea. and the best parts is you're among the biggest hypocrite on this board because YOU many times have dismissed the opinions of Peter McGough , Dorian Yates , Ronnie Coleman , Lee Priest , Bev Francis , Roger Schwabb , etc and I never dismissed anyone's opinion , I always stated it was their opinion and NOT a fact , especially considered they do not judge contests ;) and the people who do judge contests you have dismissed :)
when it comes to competitive bodybuilding I hands down know more than you , Hulkster , pumpster , iceman , all combined ! my argument has been consistent its used with the IFBB judging criteria in mind and its backed up with judges' quotes that specifically compared the two , as usual you can't counter my argument and never could , so run along now boy-Neo your novelty has worn off again , perhaps when I'm feeling more charitable I'll entertain and correct more of your nonsense.
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ND's determination and domination is simply LEGENDARY. He has never once been proven incorrect on this forum. It's absolutely comic how easily he owns suckster, semen, et al.
(http://www.dorianyatesapproved.co.uk/images/dorian_yates.jpg)
The thickness of Dorian's lats here as an olympia ROOKIE is incredible. What did Ronnie do his at his 1st olympia?
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/dorian-yates-pic.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1351/846999165_bba189a5b1_b.jpg)
(http://www.posilovani.net/zivotopisy/yates01.jpg)
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dorian couldnt' come close:
top to bottom
just look at those quads, the lats, etc
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.................... :o :o :o
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Ronnie Yates.
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same old arguments? my argument is consistent and why? because I always knew what I was talking about , that's the difference between you and I how can you form an argument when you didn't even know how contests were judged? I'll tell you , you can't. you didn't even know that balance & proportion were separate entities , you didn't know all rounds are physique rounds until I thought you its YOU who had to amend your ' argument ' constantly not I.
ha ha ha, you don't know what you're talking about. That's why this discussion has been going on for over 2 yrs. How can you claim to be more knowledgeable about bodybuilding when I've corrected you on numerous occasions such as the difference between conditioning, definition and density, balance and proportion, symmetry, and the importance of shape and fullness. Also, your opinions are in opposition with the best authorities on the matter (e.g. Dorian has the best back ever and would beat Ronnie at their respective primes). I guess you know more than Joe Weider, Peter McGough, Shawn Perine, Greg Meritt, and Lonnie Teper? ::)
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.................... :o :o :o
Unbeatable.
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Shouldn't this stuff be confined to the truce thread?
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Shouldn't this stuff be confined to the truce thread?
Well it's better than the Dorian vs Nasser non-sense.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/thumb/a/aa/Dorian.jpg/450px-Dorian.jpg)
Amazing.
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Well it's better than the Dorian vs Nasser non-sense.
I noticed that crappy debate has started again. ::)
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ha ha ha, you don't know what you're talking about. That's why this discussion has been going on for over 2 yrs. How can you claim to be more knowledgeable about bodybuilding when I've corrected you on numerous occasions such as the difference between conditioning, definition and density, balance and proportion, symmetry, and the importance of shape and fullness. Also, your opinions are in opposition with the best authorities on the matter (e.g. Dorian has the best back ever and would beat Ronnie at their respective primes). I guess you know more than Joe Weider, Peter McGough, Shawn Perine, Greg Meritt, and Lonnie Teper? ::)
Again Neo you're full of shit period you never corrected me on ANY points , you'd have to know what you're talking about in order to do so , and you're very ignorant to this day about competitive bodybuilding , you can't correct someone when you don't and didn't even know how contests were judged , what consists of great conditioning , that balance & proportion are two separate and distinct entities , that all rounds are physique rounds , which year is a particular bodybuilders peak , etc , etc , etc
you're a pretender who tried to impress me with his resume and fell flat on your face and again the irony of YOU saying I guess I know more than , Joe Weider , Peter McGough , etc , etc when YOU dismissed a hell of a lot more people , you're a hypocrite and an ignorant one at that
my argument is rock solid and hasn't budged its right on the money and try as you may NONE of you guys can counter it , just deny it .
Neo's novelty = worn off ...bye . bye boy-Neo run along and try and impress someone else with your certified personal trainer degree and your extensive ' knowledge ' of competitive bodybuilding lmao ;)
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ND's determination and domination is simply LEGENDARY. He has never once been proven incorrect on this forum. It's absolutely comic how easily he owns suckster, semen, et al.
(http://www.dorianyatesapproved.co.uk/images/dorian_yates.jpg)
The thickness of Dorian's lats here as an olympia ROOKIE is incredible. What did Ronnie do his at his 1st olympia?
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/dorian-yates-pic.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1351/846999165_bba189a5b1_b.jpg)
(http://www.posilovani.net/zivotopisy/yates01.jpg)
You're a smart man and right on the money.
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damn muscletime.com for unleashing unseen pics of Ronnie and Yates..
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dorian couldnt' come close:
top to bottom
just look at those quads, the lats, etc
He actually looks awesome in this shot but alas this is Dorian's pose and no one can touch him in it
and I laughed when you typed top to bottom lol he would need a pair of proportionate calves you know as well as I do calves are judged in this shot as much as any mother muscle , Ronnie's calves are getting dwarfed buy his enormous quads an increase as little as 10 pounds from one year to the next can throw off one's balance & proportion , the you have to factor in all his other structual flaws compared to Dorian such a torso length , upper & lower body balance , proportion of the forearms in relation to the biceps and triceps , the sweep of the lats , and see all rounds are physique rounds you have to factor in muscular bulk , density & dryness , posing & presentation , completeness from head to toe and its clear Dorian beats Ronnie in this pose , this is a pose Ronnie has a lot of advantages in but never seems to look great in like Lee Haney did or Dorian Yates
and another laughable point is when you typed Dorian couldn't come close , I mean this is one of Dorian's many poses . on the contrary Ronnie has to come close to Dorian in this shot and this particular one he actually does come close to a point and then Dorian's shot is just more complete and meets ALL of the criteria better
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Again Neo you're full of shit period you never corrected me on ANY points , you'd have to know what you're talking about in order to do so , and you're very ignorant to this day about competitive bodybuilding , you can't correct someone when you don't and didn't even know how contests were judged , what consists of great conditioning , that balance & proportion are two separate and distinct entities , that all rounds are physique rounds , which year is a particular bodybuilders peak , etc , etc , etc
Again ND you're full of shit period you never corrected me on ANY points , you'd have to know what you're talking about in order to do so , and you're very ignorant to this day about competitive bodybuilding , you can't correct someone when you didn't know the difference between conditioning, definition and density, balance and proportion, symmetry, and the importance of shape and fullness. ;)
you're a pretender who tried to impress me with his resume and fell flat on your face and again the irony of YOU saying I guess I know more than , Joe Weider , Peter McGough , etc , etc when YOU dismissed a hell of a lot more people , you're a hypocrite and an ignorant one at that
ha ha ha, you haven't even posted that many quotes from different people. I've posted 30+ quotes which you dismissed all of them. So it's impossible for me to dismiss more people than you. Nice try, kiddo. ;)
my argument is rock solid and hasn't budged its right on the money and try as you may NONE of you guys can counter it , just deny it.
that's why Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper all disagree with you? ::)
you have much to learn, little boy. Run along now and come back when you actually have something intelligent to say. ;)
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Again ND you're full of shit period you never corrected me on ANY points , you'd have to know what you're talking about in order to do so , and you're very ignorant to this day about competitive bodybuilding , you can't correct someone when you didn't know the difference between conditioning, definition and density, balance and proportion, symmetry, and the importance of shape and fullness. ;)
ha ha ha, you haven't even posted that many quotes from different people. I've posted 30+ quotes which you dismissed all of them. So it's impossible for me to dismiss more people than you. Nice try, kiddo. ;)
that's why Joe Weider, Team Flex, and Lonnie Teper all disagree with you? ::)
you have much to learn, little boy. Run along now and come back when you actually have something intelligent to say. ;)
Yeah I thought so NO CONTENT as usual thanks for proving my point :) have a nice day
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1994 at one of his worse showings mind you , this front latspread is just mindblowing
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Lets break it down into bodyparts
Chest = Ronnie
Biceps = Ronnie
Triceps = Dorian
Delts = Ronnie
Quads = Ronnie
Hams and glute tie-ins = close, but I'd give it to Dorian
Back = Ronnie
Calves = Dorian
Abs = Dorian
Ronnie wins, but barely.
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Sorry, but Ronnie's back was no where near as thick as Yates.
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1994 at one of his worse showings mind you , this front latspread is just mindblowing
look son you have to judge the whole body, not just the lats :P
shallow chest, small arms, ugly waistline, calves too big for his quads, lack of cuts in quads
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Gotta disagree about giving Hams to Dorian:
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look son you have to judge the whole body, not just the lats :P
shallow chest, small arms, ugly waistline, calves too big for his quads, lack of cuts in quads
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funny you typed the word judge ;) because according to the judges he soundly defeated everyone in this and all the other poses , so despite your claims he was still dominant
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funny you typed the word judge ;) because according to the judges he soundly defeated everyone in this and all the other poses , so despite your claims he was still dominant
you only agree with the judging when dorian wins ::)
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you only agree with the judging when dorian wins ::)
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Earl you're constantly and incorrectly prone for speaking for me and when you do its an outright lie , you really should pay more attention , I have said several times I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 , I'm a huge Flex Wheeler fan and I agreed he should have lost in 98/99 , I didn't think Ronnie should have won in 2001 but I in no way shape of form think the contest was fixed , so Earl stop committing to posts that make you looks ignorant
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Earl you're constantly and incorrectly prone for speaking for me and when you do its an outright lie , you really should pay more attention , I have said several times I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 , I'm a huge Flex Wheeler fan and I agreed he should have lost in 98/99 , I didn't think Ronnie should have won in 2001 but I in no way shape of form think the contest was fixed , so Earl stop committing to posts that make you looks ignorant
didn't dorian win with perfect scores in 97?
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didn't dorian win with perfect scores in 97?
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yup
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yup
so why did you say before that the judges scored him perfectly when i pointed out dorian's flaws
it was like you were saying the judges always get it right
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ND doesn't care about all dorian's flaws.
he only cares about what score the judges gave him
thats what makes him such an ignorant fan:
he blindly goes by the numbers on the page rather than the physique on stage...
which is a big difference when you compare dorian's flaws (esp. his post tear fiasco's) to his actual scores..
torn crippled bi yet perfect scores? LOL
::)
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so why did you say before that the judges scored him perfectly when i pointed out dorian's flaws
it was like you were saying the judges always get it right
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ND always thinks the judges are 100% correct all the time.
::)
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1994 at one of his worse showings mind you , this front latspread is just mindblowing
his lats are great and thick
but look at everything else:
poor quad cuts
zero chest cuts
no arm/delt cuts.
compared to a real lat spread, its pitiful:
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so why did you say before that the judges scored him perfectly when i pointed out dorian's flaws
it was like you were saying the judges always get it right
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What part of I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 did you miss? let me know?
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ND doesn't care about all dorian's flaws.
he only cares about what score the judges gave him
thats what makes him such an ignorant fan:
he blindly goes by the numbers on the page rather than the physique on stage...
which is a big difference when you compare dorian's flaws (esp. his post tear fiasco's) to his actual scores..
torn crippled bi yet perfect scores? LOL
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lol no calves and yet a perfect score? LOL Hulkster I judge the physique's I seen which is how I came to the conclusion Dorian has better balance , which I verified after the fact via an IFBB judge , the subject of conditioning is trick to ascertain via pics & vids but I've again confirmed after the fact Yates has the better conditioning of the two via an IFBB judge , you see what you want in pictures bias prevents you from seeing things objectively
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his lats are great and thick
but look at everything else:
poor quad cuts
zero chest cuts
no arm/delt cuts.
compared to a real lat spread, its pitiful:
one can just laugh at your assessment Yates' latspread is unmatched even to this day although thats among the best front latspread I've seen from Ronnie , he looks great in that shot , reminds me of Haney
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one can just laugh at your assessment Yates' latspread is unmatched even to this day although thats among the best front latspread I've seen from Ronnie , he looks great in that shot , reminds me of Haney
and Haney beat Yates...
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and Haney beat Yates...
And Yates beat Haney .......in the muscularity round , despite being 10 pounds lighter ;)
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And Yates beat Haney .......in the muscularity round , despite being 10 pounds lighter ;)
Haney won the contest.
he was like Ronnie - mass with symmetry and aesthetics aka mass with class.
unlike dorian - mass with ass..
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even dorian's famous lat spread cannot stand up to the standard that Ronnie Coleman 1999 set:
no matter what year
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ouch.
look at the ownage in the quads, the pecs, the arms..
lats are equal.
dorian wins calves (as always, thats about it LOL)
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even dorian's famous lat spread cannot stand up to the standard that Ronnie Coleman 1999 set:
no matter what year
lol end of story , Ronnie's front latspread that year great , Dorian's textbook flawless
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Haney won the contest.
he was like Ronnie - mass with symmetry and aesthetics aka mass with class.
unlike dorian - mass with ass..
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I always laugh when you type aesthetics , where was he on that list again?
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nd frantically posting close ups to offset the fact that onstage, no matter what year, dorian's lat spread gets owned by ronnie 99's latspread.
on the defensive..as always... :-\
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/thumb/a/aa/Dorian.jpg/450px-Dorian.jpg)
Amazing.
I have that magazine. I think he looks great in that pic.
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I laugh that you post that 95 shot with peashooter arms and aids man quads lol
he looked like garbage in terms of proportions in 95.
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I laugh that you post that 95 shot with peashooter arms and aids man quads lol
he looked like garbage in terms of proportions in 95.
1995 something about peashooter arms lol his arms in 1995 were HUGE when viewed from the front they don't look huge but from the sides however a very different story
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nd frantically posting close ups to offset the fact that onstage, no matter what year, dorian's lat spread gets owned by ronnie 99's latspread.
on the defensive..as always... :-\
I'm sure you believe he's getting owned but in reality he's not Ronnie does look great in that shot but he's still behind Dorian in terms of size , density & dryness and balance & proportion and Dorian's lats have a better sweep
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Yeah I thought so NO CONTENT as usual thanks for proving my point have a nice day
Yeah I thought so NO CONTENT as usual thanks for proving my point have a nice day. ;)
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Saying that Ronnie has a better front lat spread than Dorian is retarded. Sorry. If there is one mandatory that Dorian cleans the house with, it's the front lat spread. Dorian's front lat spread is the best ever, sans Haney's at the 1987 Olympia. We can debate the back lat spread all you want, but the front one goes to Dorian hands down.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Saying that Ronnie has a better front lat spread than Dorian is retarded. Sorry. If there is one mandatory that Dorian cleans the house with, it's the front lat spread. Dorian's front lat spread is the best ever, sans Haney's at the 1987 Olympia. We can debate the back lat spread all you want, but the front one goes to Dorian hands down.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I suggest you open your eyes: ::)
ronnie has better arms, better chest, better quads, equally good lats.
dorian has better calves. wow.
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Dorian is killing Ronnie. Hell, it's extremely questionable if Ronnie is even beating Flex in that shot. And equally good lats? LOL. Cormier has better lats than Coleman in that shot.
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Dorian looked like a fucking bat on the rear lat spread. No one's lats popped out like his from the front! (although Franco Colombu comes to mind...)
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Coleman's massive structural flaws evident here......very short torso and long legs. Flex was the prototype. It's debatable if Ronnie is even winning this shot let alone beat Yates in his signature pose hahaha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230956.0;attach=272034;image)
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the three resident nuthuggers coming out to defend their hero, when reality shows that he would lose that pose easily...
hahahahhaaha
on the defensive as alays.. :-\
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Looks like we got a nice long thread building up..... :)
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What part of I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 did you miss? let me know?
you said before that the judges support your argument for dorian, then you say that the judges got it wrong in 97
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lol end of story , Ronnie's front latspread that year great , Dorian's textbook flawless
more non contest photos ::)
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I have that magazine. I think he looks great in that pic.
yes because magazine covers are photoshopped haha
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yes because magazine covers are photoshopped haha
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you mean ND posted that? ;)
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you said before that the judges support your argument for dorian, then you say that the judges got it wrong in 97
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please show me one quote where I said the judges got it wrong in 1997 , you're very fond of misquoting and speaking for me , please return with the quote where I said this and I'll be waiting
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you mean ND posted that? ;)
hey at least you got it right this time :)
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please show me one quote where I said the judges got it wrong in 1997 , you're very fond of misquoting and speaking for me , please return with the quote where I said this and I'll be waiting
you said you didn't agree with dorian winning in 97, that would mean you think the judges got it wrong ::)
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more non contest photos ::)
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So what does that mean? its NOT great? lol and did you miss the multiple contest shots I posted? ???
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you said you didn't agree with dorian winning in 97, that would mean you think the judges got it wrong ::)
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Still waiting for you to post that quote from me ;)
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Still waiting for you to post that quote from me ;)
you have said this a million times!
check the truce thread you ran away from like the sore loser that you are..
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you have said this a million times!
check the truce thread you ran away from like the sore loser that you are..
I never once said the judges got it wrong that's a lie
I won the truce thread which is why I stopped posting in it ;) which is exactly why YOU follow ME like a lost puppy from thread to thread
Quiting while you're ahead is NOT the same as quiting ;)
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So what does that mean? its NOT great? lol and did you miss the multiple contest shots I posted? ???
yes and he looks much smaller in the contest pics
on stage is where it counts, besides ronnie still owns those pics
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Still waiting for you to post that quote from me ;)
you said you thought dorian lost in 97
THAT MEANS YOU DISAGREE WITH THE PERFECT SCORE HE GOT
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yes and he looks much smaller in the contest pics
on stage is where it counts, besides ronnie still owns those pics
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Because he is smaller in contest pics duh and where he's at his best is where it counts and you're like Hulkster just make blanket statements lol Ronnie owns nothing
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I never once said the judges got it wrong that's a lie
I won the truce thread which is why I stopped posting in it ;) which is exactly why YOU follow ME like a lost puppy from thread to thread
Quiting while you're ahead is NOT the same as quiting ;)
you do realize I am going to pull up a million quotes where you have said this?
me, neo, iceman etc all know you have stated this many times in the past.
many times.
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Because he is smaller in contest pics duh and where he's at his best is where it counts and you're like Hulkster just make blanket statements lol Ronnie owns nothing
all that counts is what you see on stage and if you want to bring gym pics into the argument ronnie still wins
either way dorian looks like shit and you would NEVER want to look like him ;D
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you said you thought dorian lost in 97
THAT MEANS YOU DISAGREE WITH THE PERFECT SCORE HE GOT
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Again I never said ' the judges got it wrong ' that's a lie
I don't think he should have won that year but in no way shape or form do I think it was fixed
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you do realize I am going to pull up a million quotes where you have said this?
me, neo, iceman etc all know you have stated this many times in the past.
many times.
Show me ONCE where I ever claimed ' the judges got it wrong ' ;) I said I personally don't think Dorian should have won , big difference
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Again I never said ' the judges got it wrong ' that's a lie
I don't think he should have won that year but in no way shape or form do I think it was fixed
hello? ::)
saying that you don't think dorian should have won in 97 is the same thing as saying that you think that the judges got it wrong because they had him win it that year..
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holy shit you are dumb..
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Again I never said ' the judges got it wrong ' that's a lie
I don't think he should have won that year but in no way shape or form do I think it was fixed
i never said anything about a fix
if you think a different guy should've won then who the judges picked, THAT MEANS YOU FEEL THE JUDGES GOT IT WRONG
you are starting to give "suckmymuscle" a run for his money in the lack of common sense department :-\
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hello? ::)
saying that you don't think dorian should have won in 97 is the same thing as saying that you think that the judges got it wrong because they had him win it that year..
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holy shit you are dumb..
No it isn't
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Show me ONCE where I ever claimed ' the judges got it wrong ' ;) I said I personally don't think Dorian should have won , big difference
you've resorted to playing dumb just to defend your argument ::)
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i never said anything about a fix
if you think a different guy should've won then who the judges picked, THAT MEANS YOU FEEL THE JUDGES GOT IT WRONG
you are starting to give "suckmymuscle" a run for his money in the lack of common sense department :-\
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Let me explain this to you , I don't think Dorian should have won but I don't think Nasser beat him ;)
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you've resorted to playing dumb just to defend your argument ::)
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NO you resorted to making stuff up , again. don't speak for me or misquote me
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HypocriticDeity is breaking his own records on being stupid...
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he doesn't understand that disagreeing with the outcome of a contest is the same as disagreeing with the judges..
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Let me explain this to you , I don't think Dorian should have won but I don't think Nasser beat him ;)
fine
dorian won so that means you think SOMEBODY deserved to be in first place and you feel the judges got both 1st and 2nd place wrong
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Let me explain this to you , I don't think Dorian should have won but I don't think Nasser beat him ;)
so who should have won the contest in your opinion then?
shawn ray?
Kevin?
answer.
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HypocriticDeity is breaking his own records on being stupid...
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he doesn't understand that disagreeing with the outcome of a contest is the same as disagreeing with the judges..
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he has lost all credibility
seriously
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he has lost all credibility
seriously
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no, the last of that died back here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
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HypocriticDeity is breaking his own records on being stupid...
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he doesn't understand that disagreeing with the outcome of a contest is the same as disagreeing with the judges..
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No I can disagree with the judges , I just don't think what Dorian showed in 1997 is what a Mr Olympia should be , you have to hand it to the judges they were consistent , I don't think a Mr Olympia should win with a torn bicep , tricep , quad , Dorian even at his worse in 1994 looked pretty good in 1997 he looked awful but in some poses he looked great so while I can understand why he won I just don't think he should have and again I don't think Nasser beat him , he should have came closer but beat him no
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no, the last of that died back here:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
epic hypocrisy this coming from the guy who has posted more photoshopped pics than ANYONE on GetBig lol
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you have to hand it to the judges they were consistent
that is a very bad thing considering the way dorian looked post tear.
not a good thing..
they consistently overlooked the massive flaws, torn muscles, growing gut and lack of detail to give him 'perfect' scores anyway..
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that is a very bad thing considering the way dorian looked post tear.
not a good thing..
they consistently overlooked the massive flaws, torn muscles, growing gut and lack of detail to give him 'perfect' scores anyway..
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Well to echo the judges sentiments Yates bicep tear made NO overall difference , and you don't know how contests are judges hence why you don't know how he could get perfect scores
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Well to echo the judges sentiments Yates bicep tear made NO overall difference , and you don't know how contests are judges hence why you don't know how he could get perfect scores
fuck how can you agree with that statement? ::)
it really shows how LITTLE you know about the sport: :-\
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fuck how can you agree with that statement? ::)
it really shows how LITTLE you know about the sport: :-\
imagine being new to the sport and seeing that this monstrosity is considered the pinnacle of bodybuilding
no wonder the sport didn't grow :-\
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fuck how can you agree with that statement? ::)
it really shows how LITTLE you know about the sport: :-\
94/95/96 MADE NO overall difference and Hulkster I said the torn bicep made NO overall difference NOT a torn bicep and tricep ;) please pat attention to the debate
and you're the guy who claimed Ronnie has more detailed calves than Dorian if I know little about the sport than YOU know absolutely NOTHING ;)
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he has lost all credibility
seriously
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yeah thats what they've been claiming for years now , at least I had some ' credibility ' to loose ;) you guys would need to know how the game is played before having any lol
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yeah thats what they've been claiming for years now , at least I had some ' credibility ' to loose ;) you guys would need to know how the game is played before having any lol
"i don't think dorian should've won but the judges got it right"
dumbest statement ever on getbig hahahahhaha ;D
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tell me about it.
it makes no sense at all...
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tell me about it.
it makes no sense at all...
Sure it does , I personally DON'T think Ronnie should have won in 2001 but I don't think it was fixed either and I respect the judges decision even though I don't agree with it
same with1997 you and earl can't grasp the concept of being objective , separating your personal preference from what the judges pick
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To me, Dorian 1995 was the best......something else....
its all subjective isnt it.....some would say 2003 Ronnie or 2001 ronnie.....yeh, looked amazing didnt he.....heck, some might even say wheeler 1993 Mr Olympia
but for me, its Dorian 1995....thats the most impressive physique Ive seen.....
my two cents
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To me, Dorian 1995 was the best......something else....
its all subjective isnt it.....some would say 2003 Ronnie or 2001 ronnie.....yeh, looked amazing didnt he.....heck, some might even say wheeler 1993 Mr Olympia
but for me, its Dorian 1995....thats the most impressive physique Ive seen.....
my two cents
Where you there? in 95?
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To me, Dorian 1995 was the best......something else....
its all subjective isnt it.....some would say 2003 Ronnie or 2001 ronnie.....yeh, looked amazing didnt he.....heck, some might even say wheeler 1993 Mr Olympia
but for me, its Dorian 1995....thats the most impressive physique Ive seen.....
my two cents
yates had the crippled bi in 95. he was at his hardest in 95, but that missing bi was really bad.
93 he was better as a result.
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you've resorted to playing dumb just to defend your argument
ha ha ha, ND does that a lot. ;D
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ha ha ha, ND does that a lot. ;D
say my name , say my name ;)
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say my name , say my name ;)
HypocriticDeity! HypocriticDeity!
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HypocriticDeity! HypocriticDeity!
BWAHAHAHAHA
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Let me explain this to you , I don't think Dorian should have won but I don't think Nasser beat him ;)
If you think yates shouldn't have won and think Nasser didn't beat him, then who do you think should have won that year? It was clearly between those 2 guys only.
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If you think yates shouldn't have won and think Nasser didn't beat him, then who do you think should have won that year? It was clearly between those 2 guys only.
HypocriticDeity won't answer this question.
he avoids it as much as he avoids me in the truce thread.. ::)
he claims he 'doesnt agree with the judges" yet 'understands why they chose dorian"
so, he says the judges are wrong, but that he understands how they could be wrong- so, he understands why the judging was bad.
well guess what?
so does everyone else: what Uncle Joe says, goes.
it was fixed from day one.
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yates had the crippled bi in 95. he was at his hardest in 95, but that missing bi was really bad.
93 he was better as a result.
The torn bi affected ONE pose, that's it. Get over it. Dorian's back was the best ever in 95. Fucking insane condition.
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The torn bi affected ONE pose, that's it. Get over it.
wrong, it affected his front relaxed, front lat spread, back double biceps, and most muscular pose.
Dorian's back was the best ever in 95. Fucking insane condition.
not according to Team Flex. ;)
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why do the stupid nuthuggers keep insisting that dorian's crippled bi 'only affected one pose'?
are they stupid?:
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God damn, Coleman's back is pathetic in comparison to Yates in both development and condition. Dorian's condition there in 95 is simply mindblowing. Ronnie puffy and soft in comparison
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230956.0;attach=272164;image)
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different league!
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i don't know why ronnie 98/99 is referred to as ronnie's best. at that point in his career he was still at a level of size comparable to dorian. however, in 2003 ronnie reached a form that far exceeded anything dorian could ever produce. forget the pictures, just look at the videos.
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HypocriticDeity! HypocriticDeity!
coming from the biggest hypocrite in GetBig your nonsense is laughable , you're still pissed I busted you and Bizzy time & time again ;)
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Lee Priest would beat both of them.
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why do the stupid nuthuggers keep insisting that dorian's crippled bi 'only affected one pose'?
are they stupid?:
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Ronnie had ZERO calves for the whole length of his career... That's much worse in my opinion than a simple biceps tear.
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HypocriticDeity won't answer this question.
he avoids it as much as he avoids me in the truce thread.. ::)
he claims he 'doesnt agree with the judges" yet 'understands why they chose dorian"
so, he says the judges are wrong, but that he understands how they could be wrong- so, he understands why the judging was bad.
well guess what?
so does everyone else: what Uncle Joe says, goes.
it was fixed from day one.
Its only fixed when it comes to Yates ::) see hypocrite you most certainly know your way lmao 2001/2002 all right on the money straight up fair contests ::) anything involving Dorian was fixed more terrific ' logic ' by Hulkster
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Ronnie had ZERO calves for the whole length of his career... That's much worse in my opinion than a simple biceps tear.
and not only didn't he have ZERO calves , he injected them ! but that's o.k its Ronnie and these are the same hypocrite idiots who will claim Ronnie's calves aren't a liability in any pose when weak pathetic calves can be seen from every pose from every single angle LMFAO at least Dorian was never reduced to injecting his biceps
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Without Yates, Ronnie would have remained a 220pound Bber. Coleman might have pushed the envelope, Yates created the game.
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Everyone was catching up trying to play Yates' old game (size) while Yates was playing his new game (size + condition)
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Everyone was catching up trying to play Yates' old game (size) while Yates was playing his new game (size + condition)
too bad Ronnie was playing a newer game, of size + condition + shape: :-\
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honestly.. :-\
no wonder the three nuthuggers on this board are the only morons who think dorian even comes close...
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Dorian was fucking massive at FIBO 94 :o
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/44741-3/1994-fibo-12.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=546fdcadea9bb366eb4efce3b2d19d27)
Ronnie's lats were NEVER nearly as good/wide from the front (i.e front lat spread)
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/20038-4/german-gp-1994-12.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=546fdcadea9bb366eb4efce3b2d19d27)
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/44741-3/1994-fibo-12.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=546fdcadea9bb366eb4efce3b2d19d27)
Ronnie's lats were NEVER nearly as good/wide from the front (i.e front lat spread)
better taper than coleman EVER had
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Without Yates, Ronnie would have remained a 220pound Bber. Coleman might have pushed the envelope, Yates created the game.
Without Haney, Dorian would have remained a 220pound Bber. Dorian might have pushed the envelope, Haney created the game. ;)
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Everyone was catching up trying to play Yates' old game (size) while Yates was playing his new game (size + condition)
kewl
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Without Haney, Dorian would have remained a 220pound Bber. Dorian might have pushed the envelope, Haney created the game. ;)
Dorian was 230lbs as an amateur you idiot. Dorian was the godfather of muscle. Even at 239lbs in 1991, Dorian defeat a 250lbs Haney in muscularity. What does that tell you ;)
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i don't know why ronnie 98/99 is referred to as ronnie's best. at that point in his career he was still at a level of size comparable to dorian. however, in 2003 ronnie reached a form that far exceeded anything dorian could ever produce. forget the pictures, just look at the videos.
his conditioning in 03 was garbage compared to 99, thats why
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his conditioning in 03 was garbage compared to 99, thats why
right , the heavier he became the more his conditioning suffered hell Shawn Ray went from 205 to 215 one year and his conditioning was off it happens to everyone.
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right , the heavier he became the more his conditioning suffered hell Shawn Ray went from 205 to 215 one year and his conditioning was off it happens to everyone.
No, Dorian went from 242 lbs in 92' to 257 lbs in 93' and his conditioning was superior in 93'. He stepped onstage at the 93' Olympia with 25 lbs more muscle and 10 lbs less fat/water than he had at the 92' Olympia.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dorian was 230lbs as an amateur you idiot.
like that's common knowledge. ::) F*ck off you piece of shit.
Dorian was the godfather of muscle. Even at 239lbs in 1991, Dorian defeat a 250lbs Haney in muscularity. What does that tell you
it doesn't matter. Lee Haney was still more muscular than Dorian.
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It's funny how this thread was made sarcastically yet you guys are in serious discussions for 14 pages now
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No, Dorian went from 242 lbs in 92' to 257 lbs in 93' and his conditioning was superior in 93'. He stepped onstage at the 93' Olympia with 25 lbs more muscle and 10 lbs less fat/water than he had at the 92' Olympia.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Well It happens to everyone to a point , Yates was exceptional in this aspect
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like that's common knowledge. ::) F*ck off you piece of shit.
it doesn't matter. Lee Haney was still more muscular than Dorian.
no he wasn't you moron. He LOST the MUSCULARITY round to King Yates ::)
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no he wasn't you moron. He LOST the MUSCULARITY round to King Yates
Lee Haney carried more muscle than Dorian, you dipshit. The muscularity round doesn't always go to the guy who is the most muscular.
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Lee Haney carried more muscle than Dorian, you dipshit.
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Lee Haney carried more muscle than Dorian, you dipshit. The muscularity round doesn't always go to the guy who is the most muscular.
Ok, so let's anlyse the anthithesis of this statement and see if it makes sense: "The muscularity round goes to the guy who is the least muscular".
Yeah, that makes sense SemenHole. The queen of logic has spoken. :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ok, so let's anlyse the anthithesis of this statement and see if it makes sense: "The muscularity round goes to the guy who is the least muscular".
Yeah, that makes sense Sir NeoSeminole. The king of logic has spoken.
except nowhere did I say the muscularity round goes to the guy who is the least muscular. Nice try, fagg*t. ;)
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except nowhere did I say the muscularity round goes to the guy who is the least muscular. Nice try, fagg*t. ;)
You said that not always does the muscularity round go to the guy who is the most muscular. That is a contradiction in itself. This is like saying that not always the fattest guy is the fatest, or the tallest guy the tallest. Once again, you gave yourself a brutal self-ownage. Include yourself in the long list of people who've owned SemenHole. ;D :P
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Lee Haney carried more muscle than Dorian, you dipshit. The muscularity round doesn't always go to the guy who is the most muscular.
hahahahahah....are you really this stupid? LOL. No wonder you ended up teaching PE in a grade school haha
And I quote the TV announcers at the 91O [in reference to Yates] :"He's like Haney with BIGGER legs!"
You've just owned yourself LOL.
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You said that not always does the muscularity round go to the guy who is the most muscular. That is a contradiction in itself. This is like saying that not always the fattest guy is the fatest, or the tallest guy the tallest.
tsk tsk, you should educate yourself before running your mouth like an idiot. Even HypocriticDeity said all rounds are physique rounds. If the muscularity round always goes to the guy who is the most muscular, then it follows the symmetry round always goes to the guy who is the most symmetrical. I can cite several examples of bodybuilders winning the symmetry round who weren't the most symmetrical, which supports my original comment. The muscularity round doesn't always go to the guy who is the most muscular. ;)
Once again, you gave yourself a brutal self-ownage. Include yourself in the long list of people who've owned Sir NeoSeminole.
nukka please, I have yet to be "owned" by anyone. You on the other hand... :-\
You are an idiot. The thread was never locked. NarcissisticDeity changed the title, that's all.
Ahem, you may want to publically apologize for calling that gentleman an idiot. The thread was locked and a couple threads were started about it being locked.
Who's the idiot now, fuckface?
When did I state that, moron? I have stated ad nauseum that Ronnie was much harder in 1998 than 1999.
right here, just scroll down to your post
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50084.0
bow your head loser, you just got owned again
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I love how the nuthuggers try and hide the fact that dorian LOST the contest to Haney, because haney could match his back and size BUT had better aesthetics and symmetry.
just like peak Ronnie would.
haney beat yates for all the same reason that peak ronnie would.
the judges made it clear that size + symmetry will always win out on simply just size with ugly keg like aesthetics..
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I love how the nuthuggers try and hide the fact that dorian LOST the contest to Haney, because haney could match his back and size BUT had better aesthetics and symmetry.
just like peak Ronnie would.
haney beat yates for all the same reason that peak ronnie would.
the judges made it clear that size + symmetry will always win out on simply just size with ugly keg like aesthetics..
Symmtery FYI include muscle balance & proportion and size means dense size not soft size , Dorian would walk all over Hney at his best in his 93 form so much for symmetry and aesthetics
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Barack would win
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Barack would win
he's got bigger calves than Ronnie too
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all the tricep curls finally paid off.
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too bad Ronnie was playing a newer game, of size + condition + shape: :-\
thats not dorian at his best though. be fair.
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Symmtery FYI include muscle balance & proportion and size means dense size not soft size
yes, and dorian's arms are way way undersized for his physique, his calves are overssized (poor proportions)
and if you think this is 'soft size' you are a fucking idiot:
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yes, and dorian's arms are way way undersized for his physique, his calves are overssized (poor proportions)
and if you think this is 'soft size' you are a fucking idiot:
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Soft size compared to Dorian Yates ;)
Dorian's arms aren't undersized for his physique more ignorant blanket statements from YOU and his calves are in perfect proportion with his quads , shows how much YOU know
and included in symmetry is muscle balance & proportion , upper & lower body balance , torso length , arm length in relation to the torso , leg length in relation to the torso , biceps. triceps and forearms ALL in proportion with each other , calves in proportion with quads , hamstrings in proportion with the quads ( when viewed in profile ) deltoids proprtion in relation to the arms , there are MANY factors involved with symmetry kid NOT just what you THINK looks better on a person and to top it all off ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS
I will continue to point out your ignorance on how competitive bodybuilding is judged
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I love how the nuthuggers try and hide the fact that dorian LOST the contest to Haney, because haney could match his back and size BUT had better aesthetics and symmetry.
just like peak Ronnie would.
haney beat yates for all the same reason that peak ronnie would.
the judges made it clear that size + symmetry will always win out on simply just size with ugly keg like aesthetics..
exactly, Haney had worse conditioning and proportion than Dorian but had better size, symmetry, and shape. Ronnie has the same advantages and disadvantages. If we look at the precedent set by the judges in 91, then it's logical to conclude that Ronnie would beat Dorian.
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exactly, Haney had worse conditioning and proportion than Dorian but had better size, symmetry, and shape. Ronnie has the same advantages and disadvantages. If we look at the precedent set by the judges in 91, then it's logical to conclude that Ronnie would beat Dorian.
what would have happened if Yates 93 competed against Haney? Haney would be left for dead so would Ronnie
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what would have happened if Yates 93 competed against Haney? Haney would be left for dead so would Ronnie
doesn't matter b/c it never happened. That's like saying "what would have happened if 01 ASC Ronnie or 03 Ronnie competed against Dorian?" Your boy would have lost and this wouldn't even be a discussion.
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exactly, Haney had worse conditioning and proportion than Dorian but had better size, symmetry, and shape. Ronnie has the same advantages and disadvantages. If we look at the precedent set by the judges in 91, then it's logical to conclude that Ronnie would beat Dorian.
I love how you always try to connect the dots , if Ronnie's calves in 03 were comparable to Jay then they would be to Dorian LMFAO
Dorian at 269 pounds would crush little Ronnie from 01/98/99 with superior muscular bulk , unmatched density , greater balance & proportion and better posing & presentation
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hahahaha, "little Ronnie" ::)
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I love how you always try to connect the dots , if Ronnie's calves in 03 were comparable to Jay then they would be to Dorian LMFAO
Dorian at 269 pounds would crush little Ronnie from 01/98/99 with superior muscular bulk , unmatched density , greater balance & proportion and better posing & presentation
haha all you have is noncontest pics to support your weak argument :D
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doesn't matter b/c it never happened. That's like saying "what would have happened if 01 ASC Ronnie or 03 Ronnie competed against Dorian?" Your boy would have lost and this wouldn't even be a discussion.
Sure it matters because Yates wasn't at his best yet , Haney won because he was bigger and was in the shape of his life and Dorian wasn't at his best
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hahahaha, "little Ronnie" ::)
pay attention to the argument little 1998/2001/1999
Yates would make that Ronnie look soft ;)
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Sure it matters because Yates wasn't at his best yet , Haney won because he was bigger and was in the shape of his life and Dorian wasn't at his best
funny how this doesn't matter when ronnie and dorian competed against each other :-\
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haha all you have is noncontest pics to support your weak argument :D
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Hey looks like I'm in a lot of people minds today ;)
it doesn't matter if its noncontest what matters is how does he look? he could have won the 1993 Olympia looking like that , he's harder than at 269 pounds than many guys competing today at the same bodyweights
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funny how this doesn't matter when ronnie and dorian competed against each other :-\
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Says who? you? I never said it doesn't matter please find that post among the many other claims you've made which were just not true
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Hey looks like I'm in a lot of people minds today ;)
it doesn't matter if its noncontest what matters is how does he look? he could have won the 1993 Olympia looking like that , he's harder than at 269 pounds than many guys competing today at the same bodyweights
yes you are in my mind, it's fun owning you 8)
yes contests matter, i guess dennis james should be in the argument of "best bodybuilder" since he looks good in the gym ::)
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yes you are in my mind, it's fun owning you 8)
yes contests matter, i guess dennis james should be in the argument of "best bodybuilder" since he looks good in the gym ::)
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The only one you own is yourself and I own you because now you're reduced to following ME around like my puppies ;)
well you make that argument about James , he's no Yates
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Says who? you? I never said it doesn't matter please find that post among the many other claims you've made which were just not true
you said right above that dorian wasn't at his best when he competed against haney, yet you seem to disregard the fact that ronnie wasn't at his best when he competed against dorian, using that as part of your "dorian is better" argument ::)
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you said right above that dorian wasn't at his best when he competed against haney, yet you seem to disregard the fact that ronnie wasn't at his best when he competed against dorian, using that as part of your "dorian is better" argument ::)
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Oh I really seen to disregard Ronnie wasn't his best ? you're not to sophisticated I mentioned three tears POST when he competed against Yates 98/99/01 did I not?
more brutal selfownage by Earl lol
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The only one you own is yourself and I own you because now you're reduced to following ME around like my puppies ;)
well you make that argument about James , he's no Yates
right anybody that responds to your nonsense is "following" you ;)
don't forget you went "eons" without posting in the Levrone thread then all of a sudden you appear with a pic title "levrowned", a word I created 8)
all that matters is what a guy looks like at a contest, all pros look great standing by themselves
besides the pics of ronnie in the gym are better
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I love how you always try to connect the dots , if Ronnie's calves in 03 were comparable to Jay then they would be to Dorian LMFAO
I love how you resort to lying when you are losing an argument.
HD: "I can't win this debate through logic and wit so I will pull shit from my ass to make my opponent look dumb."
I never said Ronnie's calves in 03 were comparable to Dorian's.
Dorian at 269 pounds would crush little Ronnie from 01/98/99 with superior muscular bulk , unmatched density , greater balance & proportion and better posing & presentation
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Joe Weider
"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
“We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable."
Lonnie Teper - MD, December 2005
"I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras (then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian). Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage could have beaten Coleman. So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs - you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes - but Coleman has really taken it to the next level, as all magnificent conquerors do."
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Sure it matters because Yates wasn't at his best yet , Haney won because he was bigger and was in the shape of his life and Dorian wasn't at his best
neither was Ronnie when he competed against Dorian but I don't see that stopping you from using that in your argument, hypocrite. ;)
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Oh I really seen to disregard Ronnie wasn't his best ? you're not to sophisticated I mentioned three tears POST when he competed against Yates 98/99/01 did I not?
more brutal selfownage by Earl lol
then why do you always say dorian never lost to ronnie?
shouldn't that be irrelevant or is it only irrelvant in this thread due to your comments about haney and dorian ::)
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right anybody that responds to your nonsense is "following" you ;)
don't forget you went "eons" without posting in the Levrone thread then all of a sudden you appear with a pic title "levrowned", a word I created 8)
all that matters is what a guy looks like at a contest, all pros look great standing by themselves
besides the pics of ronnie in the gym are better
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LMFAO NO you are follow ME around in all my threads looking to get some revenge for all the ownings I've been given you and what do you get in return? more ownings lol
and NO what matters is a bodybuilder who looks his best and in my opinion and in the opinion of many people Yates simply looks his best at that weight , he could carry a lot of size and still maintain great conditioning and Ronnie's offseason pics look better to YOU the difference being the heavier he became the worse his balance & proportion became NOT so with Yates and the worse his conditioning became again NOT so with Yates
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neither was Ronnie when he competed against Dorian but I don't see that stopping you from using that in your argument, dipshit. ;)
that's exactly what i'm saying but the moron constantly changes his argument to fend off more ownings
i admire his persistence but it just makes him appear even dumber :-\
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besides the pics of ronnie in the gym are better
Dorian could never touch this. 8)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie12.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie13.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie17.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie18.jpg)
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that's exactly what i'm saying but the moron constantly changes his argument to fend off more ownings
i admire his persistence but it just makes him appear even dumber :-\
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yeah ok Earl you're not even in the game , you keep bringing up points NO ONE is making and when exposed for your stupidity you claim you're ' owning ' lol your words carry no weight
answer the question did I mention all post Yates retirement showings when compared to Dorian? yes or no? we both know the answer ;)
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LMFAO NO you are follow ME around in all my threads looking to get some revenge for all the ownings I've been given you and what do you get in return? more ownings lol
and NO what matters is a bodybuilder who looks his best and in my opinion and in the opinion of many people Yates simply looks his best at that weight , he could carry a lot of size and still maintain great conditioning and Ronnie's offseason pics look better to YOU the difference being the heavier he became the worse his balance & proportion became NOT so with Yates and the worse his conditioning became again NOT so with Yates
i'm curious how did you own me ???
ok the contests don't matter, as long as you look good standing by yourself with a professional photographer with the pics being black and white you can claim to be the best ::)
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Dorian could never touch this. 8)
NO he couldn't not according to your fantasy criteria in which balance & proportion are thrown out the window , density & dryness are no big deal and completeness is NOT required lol
Dorian at 269 pounds crushes that according to the IFBB judging criteria
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i'm curious how did you own me ???
ok the contests don't matter, as long as you look good standing by yourself with a professional photographer with the pics being black and white you can claim to be the best ::)
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How did I own you? LMFAO see above all your points are addressed , corrected and dismissed
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Dorian could never touch this. 8)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie12.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie13.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie17.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie18.jpg)
At his peak in the same circumstances these picture were taken, he could, easily.
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yeah ok Earl you're not even in the game , you keep bringing up points NO ONE is making and when exposed for your stupidity you claim you're ' owning ' lol your words carry no weight
answer the question did I mention all post Yates retirement showings when compared to Dorian? yes or no? we both know the answer ;)
actually "neoseminole" brought up that point too, so you're owned again ;D
stop using the "ronnie never beat dorian" line as part of your argument when you clearly know ronnie wasn't ronnie yet, that's all i'm saying :)
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Dorian could never touch this. 8)
Wayne Demilla " I've said to Ronnie , " What you've got to realize is that in 98-99 you were probably in the best proportion you could be for your frame . Those muscles have gotten bigger. Just cos you're bigger , doesn't make you better . "
Thanks for playing we have some lovely parting gifts for you .
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NO he couldn't not according to your fantasy criteria in which balance & proportion are thrown out the window , density & dryness are no big deal and completeness is NOT required lol
Dorian at 269 pounds crushes that according to the IFBB judging criteria
when I have ever dismissed balance and proportion? In fact, I've been saying that Dorian had better proportions than Ronnie. Balance is irrelevant b/c there's no way to visually determine this. I've always maintained that 03 Ronnie's combination of muscular bulk, definition, symmetry, shape, and fullness would defeat Dorian.
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How did I own you? LMFAO see above all your points are addressed , corrected and dismissed
from my point of view I owned you 8)
my opinon holds more weight than a guy that says "i don't think dorian should've won in 97 but the judges got it right by giving him a perfect score" ;D
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actually "neoseminole" brought up that point too, so you're owned again ;D
stop using the "ronnie never beat dorian" line as part of your argument when you clearly know ronnie wasn't ronnie yet, that's all i'm saying :)
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it is part of the argument PART being they key word and why? because purely from a statistical standpoint Ronnie couldn't beat Dorian but the debate was always who at THEIR BEST did you NOT see that in the title? lol its so easy to make you look stupid
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How did I own you? LMFAO see above all your points are addressed , corrected and dismissed
actually, I've been following your discussion with Earl1972 and haven't seen you own him ever. On the contrary, he appears to have the upper hand on you. ;)
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from my point of view I owned you 8)
my opinon holds more weight than a guy that says "i don't think dorian should've won in 97 but the judges got it right by giving him a perfect score" ;D
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and in YOUR point of view facical beauty should matter when judging a contest LMFAO so your point of view leaves a lot to be desired
see above and your point of view should be based on how contests are actually judged and NOT by what YOU thinks wins or should win contests , you're ignorant on how contests are judged so your opinion again leaves a lot to be desired , you'd have to be knowledgeable of the game in order to formulate a cognizant opinion on who the superior bodybuilder is based on the constraints of a set criterion and you're not
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At his peak in the same circumstances these picture were taken, he could, easily.
no. Ronnie has far greater size, definition, symmetry, and shape. Dorian looks like a refrigerator at the same weight.
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actually, I've been following your discussion with Earl1972 and haven't seen you own him ever. On the contrary, he appears to have the upper hand on you. ;)
What else are you going to say? LMFAO you can relate you've been beaten down many of time as well
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it is part of the argument PART being they key word and why? because purely from a statistical standpoint Ronnie couldn't beat Dorian but the debate was always who at THEIR BEST did you NOT see that in the title? lol its so easy to make you look stupid
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yes who at their best was always the argument yet you always bring up this point to support your argument of dorian being better
you're backpeddling from that after your haney comment, you stupid little pussy :P
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Wayne Demilla " I've said to Ronnie , " What you've got to realize is that in 98-99 you were probably in the best proportion you could be for your frame. Those muscles have gotten bigger. Just cos you're bigger , doesn't make you better."
source?
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actually, I've been following your discussion with Earl1972 and haven't seen you own him ever. On the contrary, he appears to have the upper hand on you. ;)
yes anybody can see that 8)
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when I have ever dismissed balance and proportion? In fact, I've been saying that Dorian had better proportions than Ronnie. Balance is irrelevant b/c there's no way to visually determine this. I've always maintained that 03 Ronnie's combination of muscular bulk, definition, symmetry, shape, and fullness would defeat Dorian.
lmfao balance in irrelevant thats a keeper , I know what you maintained it doesn't matter its based on personal preference & ignorance , the debate was Ronnie at his best which at the basic level you can't even get right , speaks volumes of your ignorance
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source?
Muscle by Jon Hotten
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and in YOUR point of view facical beauty should matter when judging a contest LMFAO so your point of view leaves a lot to be desired
see above and your point of view should be based on how contests are actually judged and NOT by what YOU thinks wins or should win contests , you're ignorant on how contests are judged so your opinion again leaves a lot to be desired , you'd have to be knowledgeable of the game in order to formulate a cognizant opinion on who the superior bodybuilder is based on the constraints of a set criterion and you're not
everybody had a better face than dorian, i never once said dorian should place last and i did say that Mr. Levrone had a better body in 92
again you are twistin my words around to fend off ownings, a sure sign of a desperate man that thinks a gun will bring him happiness :D
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yes who at their best was always the argument yet you always bring up this point to support your argument of dorian being better
you're backpeddling from that after your haney comment, you stupid little pussy :P
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you stupid little pussy
YES we have meltdown , you just played your hand with this line Earl LMFAO
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everybody had a better face than dorian, i never once said dorian should place last and i did say that Mr. Levrone had a better body in 92
again you are twistin my words around to fend off ownings, a sure sign of a desperate man that thinks a gun will bring him happiness :D
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LMFAO twisting your words around talk about projection , something I've been constantly exposing YOU for ;) and you said facial beauty should be part of the criteria
and desperate would be me calling you a ' little pussy '
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lmfao balance in irrelevant thats a keeper , I know what you maintained it doesn't matter its based on personal preference & ignorance , the debate was Ronnie at his best which at the basic level you can't even get right , speaks volumes of your ignorance
Dorian Yates - Flex, October 2006
"Symmetry means one side is shaped the same as the other side--its mirror image. Balance means the mass of one side is equal to that of the other, even though their shapes, or symmetry, might differ. Proportion is nothing more than the relativity of parts and has nothing to do with either symmetry or balance."
according to this definition, explain how a judge is suppose to determine balance. ;)
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Dorian Yates - Flex, October 2006
"Symmetry means one side is shaped the same as the other side--its mirror image. Balance means the mass of one side is equal to that of the other, even though their shapes, or symmetry, might differ. Proportion is nothing more than the relativity of parts and has nothing to do with either symmetry or balance."
according to this definition, explain how a judge is suppose to determine balance. ;)
That's PART of symmetry NOT all and symmetry in the world of competitive bodybuilding is a broad term it encompasses many things , balance & proportion , symmetry in the context you mentioned , height , torso length , arm length , upper & lower body balance , etc , etc , etc
and the point stands 03 or the BFTO pics you posted are NOT Ronnie's best showings because his ' symmetry ' is at its all-time worse and his density & dryness are behind as well , so once again you're soundly proven wrong , thanks for playing
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what year?
Does it matter? I'm not Hulkster I don't make quotes up ;)
I have the book
http://www.amazon.com/Muscle-Writers-Through-Sport-Boundaries/dp/0224069675/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220732658&sr=1-8
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Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?
The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .
notice she mentions symmetry in conjunction with proportion ? you ask some people if Dorian has almost perfect symmetry they'd say you're insane because people associate symmetry with a small waist like I said its a broad term that encompasses many things
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What else are you going to say? LMFAO you can relate you've been beaten down many of time as well
don't worry nd, you have a guy defending your argument that gets so offended by internet words that he has homicidal thoughts , also claims he wants to fight a certain getbigger but he feels that certain getbigger should pay for his plane ticket even though he's the one that claims he wants to fight
he's on your side and that should be very very reassuring for you ;)
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I dont see why the people who support Dorian always throw around the fact that Doz weighed 269 or whatever when speaking of his muscular bulk. Ronnies muscles looked and were bigger than Dorians when he weighed 250 - 260 and not jst when he was heavier. Ronnoes muscles looked bigger, the judges dont weigh the "athletes when determening which athlete had more muscular bulk. As far as Dorians bigger calves when refering to the judging criteria as far as proportion, through out the history of the olympia arms have mattered more than calves, just look at Arnold, top heavy is more desirable to judges and regular joes. Although Dorian was very "grainy" and dry, Ronnie is just more plain old cut with more detailed muscle seperation. I my opinion both were awsome, but a top Ronnie was better and more impressive than a top Dorian, and the heavier Ronnie got, the less asthetic he was but he was more dominant in peoples view regarding the O. I dont see how Dorian carried more weight better when no one would argue he looked better at his heavier and later appearances, Ronnie on the other hand was viewed by many(and its all opinions ofcourse) as better and more "unbeatable" the bigger he got. Ronnie in 04 won by his overall larger size and decent condition at 296, Dorian at 296 would have been a bigger keg torso with the same weak arms as at a lighter weight. Just my 2 cents.
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That's PART of symmetry NOT all and symmetry in the world of competitive bodybuilding is a broad term it encompasses many things , balance & proportion , symmetry in the context you mentioned , height , torso length , arm length , upper & lower body balance , etc , etc , etc
you didn't answer my question. According to the definition provided by Dorian, explain how a judge is suppose to determine balance.
and the point stands 03 or the BFTO pics you posted are NOT Ronnie's best showings because his ' symmetry ' is at its all-time worse and his density & dryness are behind as well , so once again you're soundly proven wrong , thanks for playing
ha ha ha, you are so dumb. Let's say I'm wrong and you're right about Ronnie's prime. The same sources that you use to defend your position also say Ronnie at his best is unbeatable. So either way, you still lose. ;)
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Does it matter?
yes, b/c it would explain a lot if the quote came before 03.
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you stupid little pussy
YES we have meltdown , you just played your hand with this line Earl LMFAO
meltdown ??
stating facts is hardly a meltdown, son ;)
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LMFAO twisting your words around talk about projection , something I've been constantly exposing YOU for ;) and you said facial beauty should be part of the criteria
and desperate would be me calling you a ' little pussy '
well when a guy has a better body and better face it should be a no brainer
stop reaching nd, it shows more desperation ;)
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don't worry nd, you have a guy defending your argument that gets so offended by internet words that he has homicidal thoughts , also claims he wants to fight a certain getbigger but he feels that certain getbigger should pay for his plane ticket even though he's the one that claims he wants to fight
he's on your side and that should be very very reassuring for you ;)
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Again like I told you before you're stupid if you believe everything he says , he'll say things to get you going and you fall right for it
and he makes some great points about the debate , I don't agree with everything he says but you shouldn't be commenting on agreeing with people you're in agreement with Hulkster who claims Dorian lost in 1993 to Flex Wheeler and Ronnie dominated in 2001 by losing the whole prejudging lol oh and Ronnie has better detailed calves than Yates I mean you always come up with these angles and they always blow up in your face
and when you refer to me as a ' little pussy ' I think its clearly evident who is in who's head ;)
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well when a guy has a better body and better face it should be a no brainer
stop reaching nd, it shows more desperation ;)
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lmfao reaching? the irony of each of your posts reaching you say? trying to use facial beauty as a advantage is as reaching as it gets
and you're always in direct opposition to the judges when you say Levrone had a better body NO he didn't only according to YOU not to the people who judge contests
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yes, b/c it would explain a lot if the quote came before 03.
in was in 2003 !! ;)
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meltdown ??
stating facts is hardly a meltdown, son ;)
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That's textbook meltdown ;) shows your frustration level and your desperation :)
and if by fact you mean like Kevin had a better body than Yates type fact lol I'll just laugh at you some more
you played your hand Earl lol I won you folded
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you didn't answer my question. According to the definition provided by Dorian, explain how a judge is suppose to determine balance.
ha ha ha, you are so dumb. Let's say I'm wrong and you're right about Ronnie's prime. The same sources that you use to defend your position also say Ronnie at his best is unbeatable. So either way, you still lose. ;)
The same way he's supposed to determine the rest of the criteria visually
and there is NO lets say your wrong , you are dead wrong and always were wrong and now you're trying to salvage anything you can because you're owned again its subjective if Ronnie is unbeatable that's not law sure many people have that opinion but it doesn't make it true not when Dorian has a clear advantage in balance & proportion , density & dryness and muscular bulk coupled with better posing & presentation in all honesty that makes Ronnie very beatable and if anyone could do it its Dorian Yates at his best
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The same way he's supposed to determine the rest of the criteria visually
you're purposely avoiding my question. According to the definition provided by Dorian, what objective criteria does a judge use to determine balance? ;)
and there is NO lets say your wrong , you are dead wrong and always were wrong and now you're trying to salvage anything you can because you're owned again its subjective if Ronnie is unbeatable that's ot law sure many people have that opinion but it doesn't make it true not when Dorian has a clear advantage in balance & proportion , density & dryness and muscular bulk coupled with better posing & presentation in all honesty that makes Ronnie very beatable and if anyone could do it its Dorian Yates at his best
HypocriticDeity is back at it again! What makes their subjective opinion about Ronnie's prime correct but their subjective opinion about a peak Ronnie being unbeatable wrong? Oh right, b/c you like to pick which quotes to accept and dismiss. ::)
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you're purposely avoiding my question. According to the definition provided by Dorian, what objective criteria does a judge use to determine balance? ;)
HypocriticDeity is back at it again! What makes their subjective opinion about Ronnie's prime correct but their subjective opinion about a peak Ronnie being unbeatable wrong? Oh right, b/c you like to pick which quotes to accept and dismiss. ::)
NO I didn't I told how you they assess balance , visually the same way with muscle hardness and you didn't like that answer either
You're under this delusion I dismiss any pro Ronnie quotes NO I don't I've never ran from a quote that anyone has posted that's lie
Ronnie's peak isn't subjective that's difference , because at peak it would look his absolute best in terms of ALL the criteria not just one extreme of part of it , and again you and Hulkster are hands down the biggest hypocrites EVER because eveything you people accuse me of you're guilty of , clinging to quotes from McGough stating at his best ( NOT 2003 ;) ) he is unbeatable and then balking at the quote where it states he's never been as hard or as dry as Dorian LMFAO and this is just one example of you being and out and out hypocrite so when you call me that all you're doing is projecting ;)
bottom line Neo is you are wrong and you are owned ;) 2002 BFTO is NOT his best showing , 2003 Mr Olympia is NOT his best showing and all the same reasons I always stated , his balance & proportion are at among their worse , his density & dryness are again at their worse its old news and to boot it was never as good as Dorians
so like I said before in order to be in a debate you'd have to know what you're talking about and as I proven already and many times before YOU do NOT
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Again like I told you before you're stupid if you believe everything he says , he'll say things to get you going and you fall right for it
and he makes some great points about the debate , I don't agree with everything he says but you shouldn't be commenting on agreeing with people you're in agreement with Hulkster who claims Dorian lost in 1993 to Flex Wheeler and Ronnie dominated in 2001 by losing the whole prejudging lol oh and Ronnie has better detailed calves than Yates I mean you always come up with these angles and they always blow up in your face
and when you refer to me as a ' little pussy ' I think its clearly evident who is in who's head ;)
well i do think he makes it oddly easy for me to own him so maybe you are right, i know he's completely full of shit but if he had the chance to kill one getbigger i would be his choice no doubt 8)
i never said i agree with everything hulkster says, we've had some Levrone vs ronnie arguments in the past
callin you a "little pussy" is no more a meltdown than calling me "stupid" but if you want to think otherwise fine ;)
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lmfao reaching? the irony of each of your posts reaching you say? trying to use facial beauty as a advantage is as reaching as it gets
and you're always in direct opposition to the judges when you say Levrone had a better body NO he didn't only according to YOU not to the people who judge contests
again dorian had the worst face of all of them, doesn't mean i feel he should've placed last
you feel Mr. Levrone had the better body too, hence the reason you would rather look like him
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That's textbook meltdown ;) shows your frustration level and your desperation :)
and if by fact you mean like Kevin had a better body than Yates type fact lol I'll just laugh at you some more
you played your hand Earl lol I won you folded
reaching is desperation and frustration, but continue to think otherwise if it will prevent you from grabbing that warm gun ;)
another fact is if given the choice, you would rather look like Mr. Levrone so that means you think he has a better body :D
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NO I didn't I told how you they assess balance , visually the same way with muscle hardness and you didn't like that answer either
wrong, all you did was refer me to another judging criteria. It would be akin to you asking me how Ronnie has better shape and me saying "the same way he has better symmetry." You haven't provided an explanation for how the judges determine balance. What objective criteria do they use? ;)
You're under this delusion I dismiss any pro Ronnie quotes NO I don't I've never ran from a quote that anyone has posted that's lie
I'll let this comment speak for itself. Anyone who's been following our discussion knows this is a lie.
Ronnie's peak isn't subjective that's difference
yes it is. Although bodybuilding has a set of criteria to make the sport more objective for everyone to follow, it's still a subjective sport. Who's to say a difference of 1-2% body fat and water levels outweighs a 30 lbs difference in size? Everyone attaches their own importance to each criteria.
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wrong, all you did was refer me to another judging criteria. It would be akin to you asking me how Ronnie has better conditioning and me saying "the same way he has better symmetry." You haven't provided an explanation for how the judges determine balance. What objective criteria do they use? ;)
I'll let this comment speak for itself. Anyone who's been following our discussion knows this is a lie.
yes it is. Although bodybuilding has a set of criteria to make the sport more objective for everyone to follow, it's still a subjective sport. Who's to say a difference of 1-2% body fat and water levels outweighs a 30 lbs difference in size? Everyone attaches their own importance to each criteria.
wrong, all you did was refer me to another judging criteria. It would be akin to you asking me how Ronnie has better conditioning and me saying "the same way he has better symmetry." You haven't provided an explanation for how the judges determine balance. What objective criteria do they use? ;)
Balance - A term referring to an even relationship of body proportions in a man's physique. Perfectly balanced phys-ical proportions are a much-sought-after trait among competitive bodybuilders
get it?
I'll let this comment speak for itself. Anyone who's been following our discussion knows this is a lie.
you're so full of nonsense I never said NONE of those quotes counts thats a LIE I take them for what they are subjective I posted the quote you clung onto for fear life , so much for me running from them
yes it is. Although bodybuilding has a set of criteria to make the sport more objective for everyone to follow, it's still a subjective sport. Who's to say a difference of 1-2% body fat and water levels outweighs a 30 lbs difference in size? Everyone attaches their own importance to each criteria.
its NOT a subjective sport especially when 13 individual judges all come to the same conclusion , there is a set of criterion they must adhere to , they don't sit around and debate among themselves who might meet that criteria the best
and you're always downplaying the massive advantage Yates has in density & hardness especially compared to Ronnie 2003 , I always said he may have matched Yates for that same bone dry & rock hard look only at his lightest for you to claim its 1-2% is laughable , 1-2% isn't even accurate from 98-99 nevermind to 2003 and 30 extra pounds of what? dense hard , dry muscle , NO at the expense of what? balance & proportions and conditioning
and NO everyone doesn't attach their own importance to each criteria , all rounds are physique rounds and more often than not what will swing a contest in favor of one competitor when all other things are equal is conditioning which along with balance & proportion Yates has a clear advantage in
and Ronnie 2003 does NOT have a 30 pound muscle advantage on Yates at his best , he's 269 pounds at his best that would be an 18 pound advantage and it isn't 18 pounds of dense dry muscle either , entertaining Dorian's conditioning at 269 pounds is at the least equal to that of Ronnie 2003 he still has a clear advantage in muscle balance & proportion , and posing & presentation and he's more complete he would still win based on all rounds are physique rounds , Ronnie 2003 wouldn't beat Dorian at 269 pounds or even Yates 93/95
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well i do think he makes it oddly easy for me to own him so maybe you are right, i know he's completely full of shit but if he had the chance to kill one getbigger i would be his choice no doubt 8)
i never said i agree with everything hulkster says, we've had some Levrone vs ronnie arguments in the past
callin you a "little pussy" is no more a meltdown than calling me "stupid" but if you want to think otherwise fine ;)
Again he pushes your buttons you fall for it
I never said I agreed with everything sucky said YOU as usual just assumed that ;)
and NO there is a big difference between calling one stupid over calling someone a pussy thats blatantly obvious but what else are you going to say after I caused you to meltdown? lol you played your hand and it didn't take long either lol Hulkster took a while longer and so did pumpster lol
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again dorian had the worst face of all of them, doesn't mean i feel he should've placed last
you feel Mr. Levrone had the better body too, hence the reason you would rather look like him
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It doesn't matter you still think facial beauty should swing a contest in ones favor
ha ha another example of Earl trying to speak for me I never said Levrone had a better body in fact I've been pretty clear Dorian has the better physique , now on a personal level who would I rather look like out of the two Levrone , however I'd rather look like Reeves than Levrone
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Again he pushes your buttons you fall for it
I never said I agreed with everything sucky said YOU as usual just assumed that ;)
and NO there is a big difference between calling one stupid over calling someone a pussy thats blatantly obvious but what else are you going to say after I caused you to meltdown? lol you played your hand and it didn't take long either lol Hulkster took a while longer and so did pumpster lol
haha you continue to play dumb to support your weak arguments
he says he wants to fight and kill me, according to you that is "pushing my buttons and i fall for it" yet i call you a "little pussy" and i'm having a "meltdown" ???
keep up those delusional and irrattional thoughts, they will help you sleep better at night ;)
you started the name calling, apparently you are even more sensitive than i originally thought
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It doesn't matter you still think facial beauty should swing a contest in ones favor
ha ha another example of Earl trying to speak for me I never said Levrone had a better body in fact I've been pretty clear Dorian has the better physique , now on a personal level who would I rather look like out of the two Levrone , however I'd rather look like Reeves than Levrone
yes when one has the better body and the better face the winner should be a no brainer
it makes sense to say you would rather look like reeves because it is a completely different body
but to say you would rather look like Mr. Levrone but feel dorian has the better physique is beyond odd ???
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There are some pretty increadible looking SCREEN CAPS around of Big Ronnie, with alot of people saying "Dorian couldn,t touch this' etc..... the only shot Ronnie could touch of this lot ive posted is one here from 1997 @ Dorians WORST on stage from the back, there is the shot from the 2003 Olympia...but if your talking about over-all balance from the rear Ronnies calves are still the issue against Dorians shot from 1997...wonder if someone can ACTUALLY post PICTURES on STAGE that can still say Dorian couldn,t touch this...in Reverse ...can Ronnie touch these?????..............
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haha you continue to play dumb to support your weak arguments
he says he wants to fight and kill me, according to you that is "pushing my buttons and i fall for it" yet i call you a "little pussy" and i'm having a "meltdown" ???
keep up those delusional and irrattional thoughts, they will help you sleep better at night ;)
you started the name calling, apparently you are even more sensitive than i originally thought
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I'm not sensitive in the least you think being called a ' little pussy ' effected me in the least? LOL its laughable that's the best part that you reduced yourself for nothing , you're melting down when you're calling people little pussy , you're frustrated and desperate
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yes when one has the better body and the better face the winner should be a no brainer
it makes sense to say you would rather look like reeves because it is a completely different body
but to say you would rather look like Mr. Levrone but feel dorian has the better physique is beyond odd ???
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Levrone NEVER had the better body so it doesn't matter Kevin had 12 shots to beat Dorian and he was NEVER once judged to have a better body , he had 6 years to try and beat Yates and he never did so stop propagating this myth he has a better body because he didn't
and the difference is I can separate my personal preference from what wins contest its called being objective somthing you know nothing about
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I'm not sensitive in the least you think being called a ' little pussy ' effected me in the least? LOL its laughable that's the best part that you reduced yourself for nothing , you're melting down when you're calling people little pussy , you're frustrated and desperate
the fact that you consider that a meltdown shows frustration and desperation
think otherwise, it will keep that warm gun in the cabinet ;)
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the fact that you consider that a meltdown shows frustration and desperation
think otherwise, it will keep that warm gun in the cabinet ;)
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Keep posting its all you can do ;)
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Levrone NEVER had the better body so it doesn't matter Kevin had 12 shots to beat Dorian and he was NEVER once judged to have a better body , he had 6 years to try and beat Yates and he never did so stop propagating this myth he has a better body because he didn't
and the difference is I can separate my personal preference from what wins contest its called being objective somthing you know nothing about
yes i know when it comes to dorian the judges always get it right, even when you think he lost in 97 the judges got it right by giving him a perfect score ::)
when it comes to the guys considered number one and two in the world, personal preference should always win
infact judges have said they choose the guy that they feel has the body they would want
comparing reeves, brad pitt or whoever pencil neck is apples and oranges
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Keep posting its all you can do ;)
maybe i'll catch up to you
if you quit getbig and i stick around another 4 or 5 years ;)
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yes i know when it comes to dorian the judges always get it right, even when you think he lost in 97 the judges got it right by giving him a perfect score ::)
when it comes to the guys considered number one and two in the world, personal preference should always win
infact judges have said they choose the guy that they feel has the body they would want
comparing reeves, brad pitt or whoever pencil neck is apples and oranges
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NO they never got it right because they didn't pick Levrone clearly it was racism , politics , friendships , it was everything except Kevin Levrone lol
there you go again trying to inject personal preference into the judging criteria , yes you're right a handsome face should separate first & second it should count more than density & dryness lol
alright you made a claim I'm going to hold you to it its now contingent on YOU to provide proof that judges have said they pick the physique they want the most , that's not how contests are judged its not objective
There is NO comparison to Reeves and Pitt at least not in terms of physiques ???
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maybe i'll catch up to you
if you quit getbig and i stick around another 4 or 5 years ;)
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Just imagine how many more times I'll own you in that time ;)
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NO they never got it right because they didn't pick Levrone clearly it was racism , politics , friendships , it was everything except Kevin Levrone lol
possibly i don't know how else he could've lost in 92
there you go again trying to inject personal preference into the judging criteria , yes you're right a handsome face should separate first & second it should count more than density & dryness lol
you say this like dorian's density and dryness was vastly superior ::)
alright you made a claim I'm going to hold you to it its now contingent on YOU to provide proof that judges have said they pick the physique they want the most , that's not how contests are judged its not objective
it was in a flex magazine from 2001 after the jay and ronnie controversial olympia if i remember correctly
how i can post that i don't know, think of me as a liar, it will support your weak argument ;)
There is NO comparison to Reeves and Pitt at least not in terms of physiques ???
i agree
so why do you compare reeves physique to Mr. Levrone?
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Just imagine how many more times I'll own you in that time ;)
i'm still waiting for the first time :P
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possibly i don't know how else he could've lost in 92
you say this like dorian's density and dryness was vastly superior ::)
it was in a flex magazine from 2001 after the jay and ronnie controversial olympia if i remember correctly
how i can post that i don't know, think of me as a liar, it will support your weak argument ;)
i agree
so why do you compare reeves physique to Mr. Levrone?
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possibly i don't know how else he could've lost in 92
I'll explain how he did lose , Dorian was greater in terms of muscular bulk , balance & proportion , muscle density & dryness and posing & presentation , he was incomplete compared to Dorian as well that's how he lost
you say this like dorian's density and dryness was vastly superior ::)
depending on the year it was vastly superior in 92 Kevin had awesome conditioning , to bad he didn't have the size and balance to go with it
it was in a flex magazine from 2001 after the jay and ronnie controversial olympia if i remember correctly
oh now its if I remember correctly lol I think I have that magazine but please don't quote someone if it can't be verified somehow its useless
how i can post that i don't know, think of me as a liar, it will support your weak argument ;)
my argument isn't weak and I can supplement my argument something YOU can't seem to do , if you have the magazine post the quote in its entirety with a page so we can check to see if you're like Hulkster making quotes up
i agree
so why do you compare reeves physique to Mr. Levrone?
I'm not comparing their physiques just their accomplishments compared to their contemporaries
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ulian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia
There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique.
A summary of the 1992 Mr Olympia
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tsk tsk, you should educate yourself before running your mouth like an idiot. Even HypocriticDeity said all rounds are physique rounds. If the muscularity round always goes to the guy who is the most muscular, then it follows the symmetry round always goes to the guy who is the most symmetrical. I can cite several examples of bodybuilders winning the symmetry round who weren't the most symmetrical, which supports my original comment. The muscularity round doesn't always go to the guy who is the most muscular. ;)
Ready to get owned(again)? Explain to me how Ronnie won the muscularity round at the 2003 Olympia? If symmetry and balance were taken into consideration, then he should have lost, since his quads overpowered his calves and his entire torso for that matter. His biceps overpowered his triceps, forearms and brachialis, and from the back, his ass overpowered his entire physique.
nukka please, I have yet to be "owned" by anyone. You on the other hand... :-\
Nice to see you've saved those quotes. It goes to show how much you're obsessed with me. Too bad for you that none of those were ownings. On the other hand, I vividly recall Pobrecito, a guy who is not fond of me in the least, mention I gave you the most clear cut ownage in the entire thread. When you get people who don't like you complimenting you like that, it's becasue you're on to something. Also, you take this board way too seriously, dude. Do you lash out at the kids like that at the middle school where you teach P.E? I think the PTA of the school you teach should really read you posts on the internet to see that you're not fit to teach kids. ;)
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Ready to get owned(again)? Explain to me how Ronnie won the muscularity round at the 2003 Olympia? If symmetry and balance were taken into consideration, then he should have lost, since his quads overpowered his calves and his entire torso for that matter. His biceps overpowered his triceps, forearms and brachialis, and from the back, his ass overpowered his entire physique.
ha ha ha, is that your rebuttal? You make this too easy for me. If the muscularity round always goes to the guy who is the most muscular, then it follows the symmetry round always goes to the guy who is the most symmetrical. So explain to me how Ronnie won the symmetry round at the 03 Mr. Olympia. ;)
Nice to see you've saved those quotes. It goes to show how much you're obsessed with me. Too bad for you that none of those were ownings. On the other hand, I vividly recall Pobrecito, a guy who is not fond of me in the least, mention I gave you the most clear cut ownage in the entire thread.
you mean this guy? :D
Hopefully we can get our resident cumstain Suckmymuscle to post another fantastic essay on why Yates would beat down your boy