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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Cleanest Natural on October 18, 2008, 03:01:54 AM
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We are fortunate to have amongst ourselves incredibly gifted people like meso78, who are life time natties and have 19 inch biceps ( he provided a photo with a measuring tape )
I for one am impressed beyond words and want to add that not only is he a natty benching 405 lbs, but also he contibues to grow and maintains a ripped physique by eating only 2 jamaican meals a day without paying attention to diet .
I envy you Mesomorph78, for being so genetically gifted, probably the most gifted ever on strength and size+ rippedness.
Here's the man himself : let's praise his lifetime natty accomplishments and not bash him .
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49492;image)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49493;image)
Here is the MAN himself describing his lifts in detail ...
" my shoulder press is
on dumbells 110's for 7 reps final set
incline presses... at my gym we dont have a proper freewight incline stand so i do smith and dumbelll week obviously dumbells...
most ive ever maxed with on incline dumbells was 150.. usual workouts i g up to 130's
on the smith i incline 315.. for 10 reps on a usual workout day.... max on a good day 352... this smith machine is easy.. well i think so like at jd dawudos gym when i train with my friend there...his smith is a lot harder... 315 for 7 on his.."
wow! that's all I gotta say : WOW!
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great athlete and muslim warrior.
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100% natural hard work
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110s on db shoulder press his hardly earth shatering..Dude has good genetics , whats the point?
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Did you guys read the workout description ?
That's a workout worthy of Lee Priest maybe ...although he goes a little lighter these days
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110s on db shoulder press his hardly earth shatering..Dude has good genetics , whats the point?
well ... what's the point in what ??
I already said he has the best genes ever. What's YOUR point ?
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He's a liar, plain and simple. We all know he has done some AAS , probably a few orals. As a lifetime natty he's the greatest of all time but as a guy who did some gear, he's nothing. That's why he lies.
He even pretends to have never heard of prohormones yet he reads all the boards for years. Trains in hardcore gyms and claims he is constantly asked if he does roids. Like someone would never ask about PHs.
Anyway, his response will be some 5 year old shit like:
..I don do no roids
i eat one chikcken rice and peas
i have banking job
i am loving the Jamaica despite living off the Brits
Meso
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He "usely" works upto 130s on incline DBs, again not earth shattering..
He has good genetics as you can tell by his pics..How tall is he?
If those numbers match lee preists then lee is a girl :D
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well ... what's the point in what ??
I already said he has the best genes ever. What's YOUR point ?
My point is whats your point :D
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My point is whats your point :D
His point is that the guy ain't no lifetime natty.
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I have another one from meso :
" can do one arm pullups
8 reps is the most ive ever done..."
:o :o :o :o :o
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He "usely" works upto 130s on incline DBs, again not earth shattering..
He has good genetics as you can tell by his pics..How tall is he?
If those numbers match lee preists then lee is a girl :D
he's same height as I am 5'11" and 200 lbs or 195 ...
even on gear those numbers are very impressive to me ...maybe you shoud pull now his balls out of your mouth slowly : one by one :D
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His point is that the guy ain't no lifetime natty.
Those numbers arnt earth shattering though..
Dude has good genes as you can see by his pics..
That other guy that they been ripping on "Konkrete mixer" he is full of shit , no way hes natural but this guy,could be..
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I have another one from meso :
" can do one arm pullups
8 reps is the most ive ever done..."
:o :o :o :o :o
He will never admit to his AAS use for, among many, two reasons:
1: He doesn't believe they did much, if anything
2: Once he admits to experimenting he is no longer the world's greatest natural and just another gymrat that has taken drugs
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he's same height as I am 5'11" and 200 lbs or 195 ...
even on gear those numbers are very impressive to me ...maybe you shoud pull now his balls out of your mouth slowly : one by one :D
Well they arnt overly impressive to me..
He has better genetics than you , no need to get bent out of shape over it..
Is that a Romanian custom?, sucking another mans balls?
Where Im from thats gay , but hey different countrys ;)
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All that and he eats whatever he wants including oreo cookies and doesn't do any cardio! LMAO! I thought this shit died a few months ago. Meso is full of shit one way or the other. Lying or not he's either downplaying his drug use or downplaying his genetics.......same difference in my opinion because genetics are even more important than drugs.
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My total is
405x1 bench
405 squat to paralell i have sqautted heavier but not to parallel.. so i dont count that
500 deadlift
but to note these lifts i do during my workout... as in i go in bench i bench
135 for 25
225 for 15
315 for 10
350 for 8 forced reps after first 6 by myself
then i push 405 for 1
ive never gone in the gym cold.. and just pressed or pulled for a one rep max
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Those numbers arnt earth shattering though..
Dude has good genes as you can see by his pics..
That other guy that they been ripping on "Konkrete mixer" he is full of shit , no way hes natural but this guy,could be..
That'sthe 3rd time you say earth shattering ...do you ststststutter ????
they are impressive to me ...not everyone is a powerhouse such as you ...post pics and video to shut meup ...excusewin 3...2..1
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My bech max has gone up from 374 to 405..
not bad for a light natural dude...
how it got there... by.. not concentrating on my bench so much.. i havent max bench for over a yr...
and also.. alternating.. one week i use barbells the following week dumbells...
dumbll presses are harder... my max dumbell press is 160's....4 reps
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HERE'S THE MAN HIMSELF : READY FOR A NATIONAL QUALIFIER @ ANYTIME
5% BODYFAT ON 2 JAMAICAN MEALS
I ENVY YOU MESO...YOU NATURAL MARVEL ...HOW..JUST HOW DO YOU DO IT ???????????
http://media.putfile.com/capture_20060225-035313
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That'sthe 3rd time you say earth shattering ...do you ststststutter ????
they are impressive to me ...not everyone is a powerhouse such as you ...post pics and video to shut meup ...excusewin 3...2..1
Why do I have to post pics and a vid to proove you are a genetic failure?
You are obviously sweating as you post as your typing skills are suffering
meup ...excusewin 3...2..1
Earth shattering for the fourth time because it was lost on you the first time..
He has good genetics and is best suited to anarobic type sport whilst your self would be better suited to say Tennis.
Different type of body.
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WHY ARE YOU MELTING DOWN BRO ?
I was praising the kid ...he has MUCH better genes than I do ...look @the clip ..
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your new pics werent that shabby too Sevaste.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=240920.0;attach=281199;image)
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your new pics werent that shabby too Sevaste.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=240920.0;attach=281199;image)
that's hazbin isn't it ?
with my college crush ...man ...I had a poster of her on mywal hahahhaa
I wasnever as big as hazbin ...he got a kickass physique
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I ENVY YOU MESO...
And thats all that needs to be said , thread over..
You cant change your genetics Sev,his are better than yours hence he looks better.
You couldnt look like him even with the help of drugs so again you claim he isnt "natural" but he still looks better than you "if" on drugs at anytime in your life..
He has better genetics than you...was that said slow enough for you??
If you want to bitch about it go punch your parents they gave you a body better suited to tennis than body building..
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WHY ARE YOU MELTING DOWN BRO ?
I was praising the kid ...he has MUCH better genes than I do ...look @the clip ..
The only melting goin on is to someone who starts a thread jealous of someone that is better suited to bodybuilding than themselves..
Why the cap locks? is says you are angry? ???
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great athlete and muslim warrior.
You mean disposable warrior, for some reason you guys use each "warrior" only once :-\
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And thats all that needs to be said , thread over..
You cant change your genetics Sev,his are better than yours hence he looks better.
You couldnt look like him even with the help of drugs so again you claim he isnt "natural" but he still looks better than you "if" on drugs at anytime in your life..
He has better genetics than you...was that said slow enough for you??
If you want to bitch about it go punch your parents they gave you a body better suited to tennis than body building..
go play with your doll collection .. you are hanging of me like a little piece of dried pooo :D
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go play with your doll collection .. you are hanging of me like a little piece of dried pooo :D
Ditto..but as long as you can now realise you are not suited to this sport because of your poor genes then you have learnt your lesson..
Im a bit worried about you Romanian men and ball sucking though..
Ta Ta must go and eat. :-*
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Lots of guys use. Not many look good. Props either way. He's got genetics and dedication.
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Sev is way more honest than meso liar.
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Lots of guys use. Not many look good. Props either way. He's got genetics and dedication.
And he eats chips and oreos for lunch everyday and does zero cardio. That's some true dedication. LOL.
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And he eats chips and oreos for lunch everyday and does zero cardio. That's some true dedication. LOL.
I get sick trying to stay @ 7-8 % without drugs and hate every minute of it and eat dry chicken and shit ...
Damn it ! I want some'a'that superman genes myself ..
jamaican food, oreo cookies, chips ...maan ...I bet he even has a soda pop
@ will grant ... If I take something, I put it out there for everyone to learn from my expirience ...
when I'm clean I say I'm clean ...etc ...
I hope I didn't hurt your feelings rippin on your boy .
I trully think he is very blessed genetically and much stronger than me
Also an incredible LIAR
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And he eats chips and oreos for lunch everyday and does zero cardio. That's some true dedication. LOL.
He clearly does his time in the gym tho.
I disagree with the crappy diet and no cardio approach, of course. Most of us wouldn't get away with it.
Sev used pretty heavily and didn't look anywhere near as good. As I recall, 2 of Sev's daily on cycle meals were a glass of milk and a candy bar, and he said of it "welcome to mass central." ;D
Ok Sev, you guru, what do you think he's stacking then?
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sevestase seems to be a straight shooter these days and much more objective.
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He clearly does his time in the gym tho.
I disagree with the crappy diet and no cardio approach, of course. Most of us wouldn't get away with it.
Sev used pretty heavily and didn't look anywhere near as good. As I recall, 2 of Sev's daily on cycle meals were a glass of milk and a candy bar, and he said of it "welcome to mass central." ;D
Ok Sev, you guru, what do you think he's stacking then?
100mg of dbol I wouldn't consider "heavy" use. And I saw his pics that he posted in another thread and he looked pretty good. Obviously with a tan he'd have looked even better. As good as Meso? No but meso has the typical negroid genetics. But I bet Meso's legs are pitiful.
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100mg of dbol I wouldn't consider "heavy" use. And I saw his pics that he posted in another thread and he looked pretty good. Obviously with a tan he'd have looked even better. As good as Meso? No but meso has the typical negroid genetics. But I bet Meso's legs are pitiful.
Sev looked ok. Good legs for sure, stubborn chest unfortunately, like mine. Should have looked better tho. A gram a week is pretty heavy, or not depending on who you ask, but 100mg of dbol/day?! That's heavy by anyone's reckoning. I thought as little as 20mg/day would suit a first timer and not many experienced guys go over 40mg/day.
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The issue isn't what Sev looks like. It's the fact that Meso is bullshitting. Pretends to have never heard of prohormones and claims to eat junk food and only two meals a day at that. Yet he has a better physique than anyone from the whole pre steroid era.
Wake up and smell the coffee, he's a liar. Obviously has decent genetics but he no lifetime natty.
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Sev looked ok. Good legs for sure, stubborn chest unfortunately, like mine. Should have looked better tho. A gram a week is pretty heavy, or not depending on who you ask, but 100mg of dbol/day?! That's heavy by anyone's reckoning. I thought as little as 20mg/day would suit a first timer and not many experienced guys go over 40mg/day.
Oh ok I wasn't sure I thought he only took 100mg a day of dbol and nothing else.
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He clearly does his time in the gym tho.
I disagree with the crappy diet and no cardio approach, of course. Most of us wouldn't get away with it.
Sev used pretty heavily and didn't look anywhere near as good. As I recall, 2 of Sev's daily on cycle meals were a glass of milk and a candy bar, and he said of it "welcome to mass central." ;D
Ok Sev, you guru, what do you think he's stacking then?
the only cycle I posted here ...there are actually 2 ...
one in 2006 2 months of 750 mg test a week ...
and one in 2007 : 5 weeks of 100 mg dbol dayly ...
Is that your idea of using " pretty heavily " :D :D :D
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Sev looked ok. Good legs for sure, stubborn chest unfortunately, like mine. Should have looked better tho. A gram a week is pretty heavy, or not depending on who you ask, but 100mg of dbol/day?! That's heavy by anyone's reckoning. I thought as little as 20mg/day would suit a first timer and not many experienced guys go over 40mg/day.
you are such a dumb fuck and you misquote and exagerate .
And I absolutely loath guys like you ...
the post I quoted, shows how little you know about drugs and lifting .
not many expirienced guys go over 40 ? you dweeb ..I know highschool kids that take double that amount ...
for the record : stop putting words in my mouth.
mc mannus : you have to understand people like tapeworm ...
he'll say anything to discredit :
if you say you are clean ... he'll say you use
if you say you use ...he'll say u use much more
if you say he looked @ you w/ lust in his eyes ... he'll say he blew you
and so forth
I gotta diet my ass off to look like this ...
and I'm clean and no fatburners ...
and meso eats oreos and jamaican food 2ce aday and looks much better than me hahahaha ...
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The issue isn't what Sev looks like. It's the fact that Meso is bullshitting. Pretends to have never heard of prohormones and claims to eat junk food and only two meals a day at that. Yet he has a better physique than anyone from the whole pre steroid era.
Wake up and smell the coffee, he's a liar. Obviously has decent genetics but he no lifetime natty.
Yeah, imo he's on something. Nothing huge tho. It's not like he runs around waving the natty flag tho. It's only when someone asks if he's on that he denies it. He's probably just made the decision that he's not going to openly admit to an illegal act when he's got his face and training location out in the open.
What I was getting at is that he looks good, on or off. Is Jrod natural? Or lots of other guys? Probably not, but you've still got to give them props. You could give most guys all the juice in the world and they'd never come close to Jrod's level.
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Yeah, imo he's on something. Nothing huge tho. It's not like he runs around waving the natty flag tho. It's only when someone asks if he's on that he denies it. He's probably just made the decision that he's not going to openly admit to an illegal act when he's got his face and training location out in the open.
What I was getting at is that he looks good, on or off. Is Jrod natural? Or lots of other guys? Probably not, but you've still got to give them props. You could give most guys all the juice in the world and they'd never come close to Jrod's level.
epic dodging the issue
such a little whore
you would say anything to find excuses for your boy ...
did you read his lifts ? ??????
my boy must drink tren for breakfast .... :D
and another thing ...WHO FUCKING ASKED YOU ANYTHING ABOUT J-ROD HAHAHAHA
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Why do so many attach themselves with false beliefs and hopes?
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you are suck a dumb fuck and you missquote and exagerate .
And I absolutely loath guys like you ...
the post I quoted shows how little you know about drugs and lifting .
notmany expirienced guys go over 40 ? you dweeb ..I know highschool kids that take double that amount ...
for the record : stop putting words in my mouth.
Don't get your bowels in an uproar. Your legs looked good but your upper body was lagging badly. I thought you were on a gram and 100 dbol/day concurrently. If not, sue me. You remember damn well when I busted your nuts about crappy nutrition on cycle tho, and you know I was right. Will you at least admit that a glass of milk and a candy bar isn't an ideal meal?
I'm not saying no one uses over 40mg of dbol a day, but you're going to find diminishing returns eventually. I'd call 100mg of genuine dbol/day very heavy. Maybe you can tell us why you decided on 100mg/day? Just a nice round number?
I always admit it when I'm wrong (unlike some, not mentioning any names ;)), so if someone whose opinion I respect says that 100/day is moderate use I'll admit that I learn something new every day, ok?
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meso is natural. Why is that so hard to believe, i know a black guy that is much bigger and equal bodyfat.Also natural. People always ask him if he is on anabolics.
Sevastase/ squatfather why all the jealosy. There are dozens of guys with good genetics like meso, those are the guys that look like sevastase with just 3 months of training and eating good. Dont envy, appriciate. I can imagine your hate sev, 1000 mg test and still look less than a natural.
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epic dodging the issue
such a little whore
you would say anything to find excuses for your boy ...
did you read his lifts ? ??????
my boy must drink tren for breakfast .... :D
and another thing ...WHO FUCKING ASKED YOU ANYTHING ABOUT J-ROD HAHAHAHA
Jeezus you're sensitive today! Everything ok?
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wow... i spend a weekend at my womans house...
log in.. and sev has made a thread callin me a liar...
what a loser.... so sad... imagine you are insignificantto me.. yet i am on your mind..
so when im makin putting in down .. working that pussy you are makin a thread about me
how sad
your forgot my full resume
and pictures here let me help you out
585 dead (done on 3 ocassions now)
405 bench
160 db presses
130 inline for 8 reps
315 inclines for a hard 3 to 6) help on the last one
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/relaxed.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/coldbi.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/IMAGE_00015-1-1.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/IMAGE_00014-1-1.jpg)
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/?action=view¤t=04082006146.jpg
160 dumbell press
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/th_160dumbellsattempt2.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/?action=view¤t=160dumbellsattempt2.flv)
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natural till the day i get my box and they put me under
making all these silly threads wont change that
i dont care about lee priest genetics or whoevers
im only care about mine... because i can only work on my genetics and be the best i can intention in to do so naturally...
peace and love meso
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No surprise to see the attention whore liar Meso quickly on this thread spouting his usual bullshit with retarded , 5 year old mong , simpleton typing.
If he admitted the truth then he'd just be another gymrat who juiced.
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Why do so many attach themselves with false beliefs and hopes?
simple ...
they want to believe they are special and talented
they try hormones and aas
nothing spectacular happpens ..
they don't have the goodies to go on stage so they resort to bragging about naturally achieving whatever on a forum, so that people would go : " WHOA! IMAGINE HIM ON DRUGS! HE'D BE MR O !"
And that makes them feel like if somehow things would've been diff they would've made it bigtime .
woulda coulda shoulda syndrome
(http://www.elitefitnessexperts.com/images/personal_trainer_Gregg.jpg)
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oh and thats 205lb now
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enjoy the thread..
mes
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oh and thats 205lb now
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enjoy the thread..
mes
I'm the first one to praise your physique you obtained with lots of hard work , lots of good food,hard dieting , lot's of hormones and orals ...
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Nobody is saying that his feats of strength and muscle quality/leanness are not impressive. We would respect him more if he didn't lie about certain things.
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wow... i spend a weekend at my womans house...
log in.. and sev has made a thread callin me a liar...
what a loser.... so sad... imagine you are insignificantto me.. yet i am on your mind..
so when im makin putting in down .. working that pussy you are makin a thread about me
how sad
your forgot my full resume
and pictures here let me help you out
585 dead (done on 3 ocassions now)
405 bench
160 db presses
130 inline for 8 reps
315 inclines for a hard 3 to 6) help on the last one
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/relaxed.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/coldbi.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/IMAGE_00015-1-1.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/IMAGE_00014-1-1.jpg)
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/?action=view¤t=04082006146.jpg
160 dumbell press
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/th_160dumbellsattempt2.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/?action=view¤t=160dumbellsattempt2.flv)
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natural till the day i get my box and they put me under
making all these silly threads wont change that
i dont care about lee priest genetics or whoevers
im only care about mine... because i can only work on my genetics and be the best i can intention in to do so naturally...
peace and love meso
It should not surprise you meso .. you do lie quite a bit you know ...
oh ...and the 585 lbs deadlift ..that tops everything ....WTF do they put in that jamaican food you eat ? Can you ship some overseas ? :D
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Sew how much kg muscle did you keep now that you re off dbols?
Low bodyfat, but no delts or anything else besides abs whatsoever, if you think you cant acchieve a phisique like meso's naturally you re a moron.
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Nobody is saying that his feats of strength and muscle quality/leanness are not impressive. We would respect him more if he didn't lie about certain things.
I actually consider him one of the most genetically blessed non pro's here on the board ..seriously ..
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Sev, I don't think he is a major juicer. The only issue I have is with his claim to be a lifetime natty and to only eat shitty junk twice a day. He lies about so much shit: doing orals, eating crap, not knowing what prohormones are. It's all an act.
If he was truly a lifetime natty then he'd be making a career out of it - there is no way from his retarded typing and shit grammar that he has either a good job (or even works at all, he probably lives of the UK government), or an IQ over a 100.
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Sew how much kg muscle did you keep now that you re off dbols?
Low bodyfat, but no delts or anything else besides abs whatsoever, if you think you cant acchieve a phisique like meso's naturally you re a moron.
Off dbol I can be at 180 lbs and 7-8 %
on dbol @ the aforementioned dose ...I get up to 217 lbs & 10 % and plateau there ....
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Sev, I don't think he is a major juicer. The only issue I have is with his claim to be a lifetime natty and to only eat shitty junk twice a day. He lies about so much shit: doing orals, eating crap, not knowing what prohormones are. It's all an act.
If he was truly a lifetime natty then he'd be making a career out of it - there is no way from his retarded typing and shit grammar that he has either a good job (or even works at all, he probably lives of the UK government), or an IQ over a 100.
I actually beg the differ ....
even if he would be exceptionally blessed genetic wise ...which he might me ...it take a hell of alot more than 500 mg test and 50 mg dbol daily to deadlift 585 and bench 405 @ 200 lbs and 6 % bodyfat ....not a lot of 200 lbs pros use those kinda weights regularly ;) ..if any ..
His tendon'smight be made out of kevlar ..
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405lb bench press naturally :o
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405lb bench press naturally :o
like i said. if he denies any use of anabolics and pretends not to know what prohormones are, he's superman. if he tells the truth, he's nobody.
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superman does not have abs like that with oreo cookies and jamaican food .
hey meso : stop humping that supermodel girlfriend of yours and chimme in ...
no joking ...tell us exactly what's a typical day for you eating wise ..
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ahh sweet muscles (squad or alex or whover you are not that it matters)
good thing its not slavery days you and sev would probably hang me from the nearest tree you and sev (or try to anyway)...
ha ha you guys are hilarious.... you hate me because i have good genetics.. and can lift heavy well relatively...
wow.... amazing.. we all like lifting and you single out and hate someone because they are good at it.. because im natural.... i have never expressed any hate for any guy on here who has taken steroids thats their choice... but every 2 months someone makes a thread to direspect me and my love for lifting
the internet is a great place for you guys
anyway enjoy your thread...
so on type whatever you like do you think it will change anything...? (rhetorical)
anyway enjoy
peace
meso
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i know a guy here in europe.. who is a bodyguard&criminal .. and bench pressed 484lbs ... 6 times, with no help.... i reallly would like to know what tha hell this guy is taking ... and also he doesnt look big, but he is hard and vascular as hell... he is like 200-210lbs on 5.8..
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superman does not have abs like that with oreo cookies and jamaican food .
hey meso : stop humping that supermodel girlfriend of yours and chimme in ...
no joking ...tell us exactly what's a typical day for you eating wise ..
well its 13: 40 havent eaten yet woke up at 12...
logged into getbig from my girls house.. to see this great thread you made for me...such hate
drank a red bull
.... im about to go eat now..
she cooked beef for dinner but ima have a little now
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i know a guy here in europe.. who is a bodyguard&criminal .. and bench pressed 484lbs ... 6 times, with no help.... i reallly would like to know what tha hell this guy is taking ... and also he doesnt look big, but he is hard and vascular as hell... he is like 200-210lbs on 5.8..
minimum :
1 gram legit susta/omna 250 a week (karachi/jelfa)
600 mg deca a week (norma/scherring )
150-200 mg legit naposim a week (terapia romania)
you can add to that ...but that is minimum
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well its 13: 40 havent eaten yet woke up at 12...
logged into getbig from my girls house.. to see this great thread you made for me...such hate
drank a red bull
.... im about to go eat now..
she cooked beef for dinner but ima have a little now
so you drink 20 g of sugar 1st thing in the morning, pay no attention to your diet and you keep growing while at 6-8 % bodyfat ?
you defy nature
meso .. I'm positive you are a cool guy ..
but I have been around the block a couple of hundred times ...and when a guy with your build and numbers tells me he's natty it simply insults my intelligence .
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and about that 585 dead
go back earlier getbig posters
will verify i osted a clip.... about 4 yrs back
of me deadlifting 500 and i was a llittle under 190 there
at least if your gonna attack my character do your research
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and about that 585 dead
go back earlier getbig posters
will verify i osted a clip.... about 4 yrs back
of me deadlifting 500 and i was a llittle under 190 there
at least if your gonna attack my character do your research
I've seen your 160 lbs x 4 dumbell presses ...they are very legit ...
I bet the deadlift too ....
but having been there myself...I'm thinking that your natural test levels must be about 10 x higher than mine ...and mine are naturally around 500 ...see what I mean ?
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You'd rather not talk about it. I understand. How you concluded that 100mg/day was the ideal amount for you. Why you decided to run a dbol only cycle. How milk and a candy bar constitutes a meal.
I'm more than happy to admit I'm wrong if all of these aren't incredibly stupid decisions. As you pointed out, I don't know anything about lifting, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble making me look foolish with your explanation of these things.
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good thing its not slavery days you and sev would probably hang me from the nearest tree you and sev (or try to anyway)...
epic black man trying to insinuate that any criticism of him must be racially motivated ::)
no son, it isn't cos u is black. it's because you're a liar. you have a physique far better than anything from the pre steroid era yet claim that you only eat junk twice a day, haven't heard of prohormones after spending years on the boards and in hardcore gyms, claim to have a top 'banking job' when it's clear you have the mental age of a 5 year old.
stop lying.
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You'd rather not talk about it. I understand. How you concluded that 100mg/day was the ideal amount for you. Why you decided to run a dbol only cycle. How milk and a candy bar constitutes a meal.
I'm more than happy to admit I'm wrong if all of these aren't incredibly stupid decisions. As you pointed out, I don't know anything about lifting, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble making me look foolish with your explanation of these things.
I don't have to makeyou look foolish ...you're doing an excellent jobyourself ...
why the fuck do you care if during bulking up I decided that I'll drink 2 cartons of milk and 2 large snickers ?? I wasn't cutting you know ...
I was also drinking 3 lbs of chicken breast a day plus other stuff ...
and @ 1 o'clock in the morning I's have 1 lb of icecream with 15 raw eggwhites ...
I chose 100 mg dbol in 5 week cycles because at that time it was the only product available that I knew it was legit ( getting it from a pharmacy )
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meso ... I love black people ...had quite a few black people as close friends, fucked the fuck of my life ...a jamaican chick ....
I never cared about skin color cause I don't give a fuck what color you are ...
Playing the race card won't change the fact that you lie and now are too embarrased to admit it .
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so you drink 20 g of sugar 1st thing in the morning, pay no attention to your diet and you keep growing while at 6-8 % bodyfat ?
you defy nature
meso .. I'm positive you are a cool guy ..
but I have been around the block a couple of hundred times ...and when a guy with your build and numbers tells me he's natty it simply insults my intelligence .
dude not everything conforms to convention..
if i took anything why would i be ashamed...
i dont diet never have ever....
for the dude who was asking i am 5'11
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meso ... I love black people ...had quite a few black people as close friends, fucked the fuck of my life ...a jamaican chick ....
I never cared about skin color cause I don't give a fuck what color you are ...
Playing the race card won't change the fact that you lie and now are too embarrased to admit it .
this means nothing to me it was directed to you and sweetmuscles... who is racist not that it matters
bird of a feather flock together..
im a liar yet you have no prove except i have good genetics...
so i should be singled out because of it...
whatever how many of these threads have been made and what has changed nothing....
after my weekend of rest and still gonna go do what i love to do lift weights
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this means nothing to me it was directed to you and sweetmuscles... who is racist not that it matters
bird of a feather flock together..
epic black man trying to insinuate that any criticism of him must be racially motivated
no son, it isn't cos u is black. it's because you're a liar. you have a physique far better than anything from the pre steroid era yet claim that you only eat junk twice a day, haven't heard of prohormones after spending years on the boards and in hardcore gyms, claim to have a top 'banking job' when it's clear you have the mental age of a 5 year old.
stop lying ::)
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I don't have to makeyou look foolish ...you're doing an excellent jobyourself ...
why the fuck do you care if during bulking up I decided that I'll drink 2 cartons of milk and 2 large snickers ?? I wasn't cutting you know ...
I was also drinking 3 lbs of chicken breast a day plus other stuff ...
and @ 1 o'clock in the morning I's have 1 lb of icecream with 15 raw eggwhites ...
I chose 100 mg dbol in 5 week cycles because at that time it was the only product available that I knew it was legit ( getting it from a pharmacy )
This is the guy that says I don't know anything about drugs or lifting folks. Mr. Dbol only, at 100mg/day for five weeks, ice cream at 1am is ok because it had 50g of protein next to it. "Welcome to mass central." lolz.
Remember when you said of your gains, "I'm keeping all of it." haha. So did you keep anything but the fat? Are you capable of ever admitting you were mistaken about something, but that you're wiser now?
You've got heart man, I'll give you that. I don't think laziness is your problem. But you should do some learning about nutrition and, if you're going around again, proper drug use.
Epic going back and editing your post on page 2 btw. I'm not out to get you man, but some of the shit you do is so amazingly stupid I've got to let others know that it's not the way to go.
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This is the guy that says I don't know anything about drugs or lifting folks. Mr. Dbol only, at 100mg/day for five weeks, ice cream at 1am is ok because it had 50g of protein next to it. "Welcome to mass central." lolz.
Remember when you said of your gains, "I'm keeping all of it." haha. So did you keep anything but the fat? Are you capable of ever admitting you were mistaken about something, but that you're wiser now?
You've got heart man, I'll give you that. I don't think laziness is your problem. But you should do some learning about nutrition and, if you're going around again, proper drug use.
Epic going back and editing your post on page 2 btw. I'm not out to get you man, but some of the shit you do is so amazingly stupid I've got to let others know that it's not the way to go.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
you analizing my drug use and nutrition ?
You are something ...
If you are so knowledgeable ...post a picture with the best shape you have ever been in ....
if you better my 180 lbs natural at 8 % ..I'll erase my account hahahaha
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Aparently GETBIG loves a liar who keeps going and going
meso78, adrian,true apenis, etc
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:D :D :D :D :D :D
you analizing my drug use and nutrition ?
You are something ...
If you are so knowledgeable ...post a picture with the best shape you have ever been in ....
if you better my 180 lbs natural at 8 % ..I'll erase my account hahahaha
I do not. I'm 182 @ about 12%, 5'10". I never claimed to be anything special, especially by Getbig standards.
You're missing the point. I didn't say you looked like shit. I said you're an idiot.
You workout hard man, but you sabotage yourself. Dbol only cycles. 100mg/day. A lb of ice cream. Candy bars. Yes, I question your drug and nutrition knowledge. Why not quit trying to reinvent the wheel and just cycle and eat properly?
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Aparently GETBIG loves a liar who keeps going and going
meso78, adrian,true apenis, etc
amazing isn't it?
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I do not. I'm 182 @ about 12%, 5'10". I never claimed to be anything special, especially by Getbig standards.
You're missing the point. I didn't say you looked like shit. I said you're an idiot.
You workout hard man, but you sabotage yourself. Dbol only cycles. 100mg/day. A lb of ice cream. Candy bars. Yes, I question your drug and nutrition knowledge. Why not quit trying to reinvent the wheel and just cycle and eat properly?
you are 182 12% 5'10 "
WTF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT EATING AND LIFTING ? LET ALONE CYCLING ?
STFU fuxxstix
where do these retards come from ??????
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tapeworm ...
a pic is worth a thousand words
you typed several thousands so far ;)
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you are 182 12% 5'10 "
WTF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT EATING AND LIFTING ? LET ALONE CYCLING ?
STFU fuxxstix
where do these retards come from ??????
You sound pretty sure of yourself. Why not go post your cycles on the S&H board and your diet on the nutrition board? Is it because you get eaten alive on the nutrition board every time? And you are so clueless they'll laugh you straight off the drug board?
While you're at it, get 'em to confirm your assessment that someone who is "hard and vascular" is using a g/wk with no AI + dbol like you posted earlier. ::) Seriously man.
If everyone agrees a dbol only cycle is the way to go, and simple carbs with high sat fat is the ideal diet, I'll eat my hat.
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tapeworm ...
a pic is worth a thousand words
you typed several thousands so far ;)
Get in line stud.
How does a pic of me looking like nothing special prove that you're not a fool? I never claimed to be anything special, but you keep insisting you're not a fool. Only one of us is right.
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You sound pretty sure of yourself. Why not go post your cycles on the S&H board and your diet on the nutrition board? Is it because you get eaten alive on the nutrition board every time? And you are so clueless they'll laugh you straight off the drug board?
While you're at it, get 'em to confirm your assessment that someone who is "hard and vascular" is using a g/wk with no AI + dbol like you posted earlier. ::) Seriously man.
If everyone agrees a dbol only cycle is the way to go, and simple carbs with high sat fat is the ideal diet, I'll eat my hat.
The diff between you and me is :
I do
you ..talk about it ;)
sincerely .....I don't give a fuck what you take and eat as long as you build a nice body ...there are no rules ...but there is common sense ....
As far as the nutrition board ..I'm ok ...I'm a free lance nutritionist and that's how I make a living.
If I need to rehash some ideas nutrition wise ...I'll go thru gh15's posts as I find them very informative .
go fucking do something loser ....stop yappin about it
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I don't know why anyone would give a shit if meso was natural or not!
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I'm the first one to praise your physique you obtained with lots of hard work , lots of good food,hard dieting , lot's of hormones and orals ...
Passive-aggressive behaviour is usually the territory that women stake out, Seva. :-\
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Get in line stud.
How does a pic of me looking like nothing special prove that you're not a fool? I never claimed to be anything special, but you keep insisting you're not a fool. Only one of us is right.
The fact thAT you never managed to get your body muscular while at alow bodyfat denotes that you don't know what it takes and how it works ...
although you are great @ talking about it :D
armchair QB ....
On the internet board we all are potential pros hahahaha
(http://www.street-chic.co.uk/assets/images/persons/persons-large/Oct/skinny-guy-oct-large.jpg)
" I may not look like much but I can analize you to death ! " - Tapeworms
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^^^^ IS THAT TAPEWORM ???
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If I need to rehash some ideas nutrition wise ...I'll go thru gh15's posts as I find them very informative .
Birds of a feather. :-\
Don't take my word for it then. Go check with the guys on the drug and nutrition boards, unless you're so convinced you're absolutely right 100% of the time that don't want anyone's opinion. Makes it hard to ever learn anything new tho.
Catch ya. :)
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Birds of a feather. :-\
Don't take my word for it then. Go check with the guys on the drug and nutrition boards, unless you're so convinced you're absolutely right 100% of the time that don't want anyone's opinion. Makes it hard to ever learn anything new tho.
Catch ya. :)
not only you don't make any sense ...you also argue for the sake of arguing ..
you have zero input as far as info ...zeroexperience
zero muscle .
wtf are you doin here ?
and another thing ... stop acting like we have a dialog and you have an oppinion hahahaha
I feel sad for dweebs like you who lift and diet vicariously through others :-\
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Birds of a feather. :-\
Don't take my word for it then. Go check with the guys on the drug and nutrition boards, unless you're so convinced you're absolutely right 100% of the time that don't want anyone's opinion. Makes it hard to ever learn anything new tho.
Catch ya. :)
Buddy you have the physique of a little girl, goddam if I looked like that I would be in the gym 7 days a week!!! :o
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^^^^ IS THAT TAPEWORM ???
Lol. No, he outsquats me by 60 lbs. :-[
Sev, enough. You win, ok? You know everything, a reasonably lean 182 lbs is atrocious, and ice cream is the ideal dbol only food.
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why go to the gym and diet when you can talk about it on a forum ? huh ?
Tapeworm - " I'm on my 2nd bag of tortillias and it's only 4pm "
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Buddy you have the physique of a little girl, goddam if I looked like that I would be in the gym 7 days a week!!! :o
Shut it or I'll hit you with my man bag.
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Lol. No, he outsquats me by 60 lbs. :-[
Sev, enough. You win, ok? You know everything, a reasonably lean 182 lbs is atrocious, and ice cream is the ideal dbol only food.
I feel excellent clean at 182 lbs ...I like that look ...
icecream and eggwhites are tasty and good calories when you bulk up
you should try it ...
get some legit naposim too ...
also these 2 work great when combined with " LIFTING WEIGHTS "
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Aparently GETBIG loves a liar who keeps going and going
meso78, adrian,true apenis,Whateva, etc
fixed :D
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well ... what's the point in what ??
I already said he has the best genes ever. What's YOUR point ?
Best genes ever?
Hate to break it to a buddy - but there's quite a few guys out there with this type of genetics. He looks great for sure, but he's not alone at the top of the genetic food chain.
Ever looked at Palumbo's column with some of those prison physiques? There are quite a few guys out there with amazing genetics that don't frequent bodybuilding sites/boards and don't post their pics on the net.
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Best genes ever?
Hate to break it to a buddy - but there's quite a few guys out there with this type of genetics. He looks great for sure, but he's not alone at the top of the genetic food chain.
Ever looked at Palumbo's column with some of those prison physiques? There are quite a few guys out there with amazing genetics that don't frequent bodybuilding sites/boards and don't post their pics on the net.
YOU MISSING THE POINT BUDDY ...
IF ...he is a natty looking and lifting and eating like that ..yes : THOSE ARE THE BEST GENES EVER EVER
you might not be familiar with thingz but there's plenty of drug usage in prison ....they get anything : hormones, aas, etc...weed,coke,heroin.
those guys don't get big on genes and 3 crappy meals ...
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basically what sev is saying... if your bigger than him and cut you have taken drugs...
talk about narcissism.
news flash in person.. because of the shape of my muscles...illusions i look really big.. and guys way bigger than you ask me what im taking etc.. and some subtely accuse me...
so what you sev is doing ... is nothing new and wont change anything
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YOU MISSING THE POINT BUDDY ...
IF ...he is a natty looking and lifting and eating like that ..yes : THOSE ARE THE BEST GENES EVER EVER
you might not be familiar with thingz but there's plenty of drug usage in prison ....they get anything : hormones, aas, etc...weed,coke,heroin.
those guys don't get big on genes and 3 crappy meals ...
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. There are plenty of guys out there with amazing genetics, and you don't even know what this guy is claiming to be true. Pull your head out!
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great athlete and muslim warrior.
;D
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. There are plenty of guys out there with amazing genetics, and you don't even know what this guy is claiming to be true. Pull your head out!
tell him again please
its pure ignorance
but because i come from that background i know better
was at school... there was a guy im talkin when im 7 we used to call him john bob here he was younger he had peaked round biceps at that age when he flexed his arm i had good bi's too along with my younger brother...
but to cut it short
not everybody who has good genes is interested in bbing or taking drugs
so when they come out with
so he's sayin he has better genes than lee priest ...
i just laugh
at the sheer ignorance
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basically what sev is saying... if your bigger than him and cut you have taken drugs...
talk about narcissism.
news flash in person.. because of the shape of my muscles...illusions i look really big.. and guys way bigger than you ask me what im taking etc.. and some subtely accuse me...
so what you sev is doing ... is nothing new and wont change anything
dude no offense because i respect you but honestly the only big thing on you is your arms, based on this photo i see an average chest, aversge delts and very small forearms, i'm guessing your back is pretty good due to your race, most black guys have great backs but when you say you look "really big" i have to laugh to myself.
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. There are plenty of guys out there with amazing genetics, and you don't even know what this guy is claiming to be true. Pull your head out!
no buddy ...don't tell me what it is and what isn't cause I coudn't care less ...
no natural 5'11 6% 200 lbs deadlifting 585 and benching 405
EVER
MAYBE IN ANOTHER DIMESION
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dude no offense because i respect you but honestly the only big thing on you is your arms, based on this photo i see an average chest, aversge delts and very small forearms, i'm guessing your back is pretty good due to your race, most black guys have great backs but when you say you look "really big" i have to laugh to myself.
DID YOU CHECK OUT HIS VIDEO ?
go back ....there's alink ....dude looks ready for the stage ...
see how striated a chest can be with jamaican oreos
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585 DL is not that exceptional at all, the bench is more impressive.
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no buddy ...don't tell me what it is and what isn't cause I coudn't care less ...
no natural 5'11 6% 200 lbs deadlifting 585 and benching 405
EVER
MAYBE IN ANOTHER DIMESION
You're totally cementing your idiocy. Please stop appearing so dense.
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Looks like every black dude on "bodyspace".
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
No, no, no. Read the thread. He's never wrong.
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DID YOU CHECK OUT HIS VIDEO ?
go back ....there's alink ....dude looks ready for the stage ...
see how striated a chest can be with jamaican oreos
hahahaha, i honestly dodn't understand why this guy makes himself out to be so mind boggling HUGE, like i said dude has big arms and some condition but guys like that "adrian" dude blow the guy out of the water.
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dude no offense because i respect you but honestly the only big thing on you is your arms, based on this photo i see an average chest, aversge delts and very small forearms, i'm guessing your back is pretty good due to your race, most black guys have great backs but when you say you look "really big" i have to laugh to myself.
ok. ::)
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DID YOU CHECK OUT HIS VIDEO ?
go back ....there's alink ....dude looks ready for the stage ...
see how striated a chest can be with jamaican oreos
Just because your genetics aren't the best doesn't mean you should be so surprised when someone else has very good genetics.
Some of the best potential bodybuilders never even pick up a weight because they have a great physique already.
My little bro is 6' 200 lbs with shredded abs, a small waist and huge legs. He's got an unbelievable shoulder-to-waist ratio and does no weight training. He also eats 3 meals a day of total shit. He doesnt lift because he's already huge without having to do anything.
If he actually trained, he would be a total monster.
Get over it dude! There are many people with great genetics out there.
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ok. ::)
be honest, besides the arms does this guy really look huge and impressive to you?
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585 DL is not that exceptional at all, the bench is more impressive.
Translation
" I NEVER even attempted to unrack such weight there fore I cannot tell the diff between 400,500 or 600 lbs ... they all seem heavy .. for 600 you just have to squeeze and try harder " ::)
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be honest, besides the arms does this guy really look huge and impressive to you?
Huge in what context? Pro Bodybuilder? NO average guy in the gym absolutely
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be honest, besides the arms does this guy really look huge and impressive to you?
I'm actually agreeing with you on this one, Quaker!
I don't see the big deal. Get over it, "sevatese."
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Translation
" I NEVER even attempted to unrack such weight there fore I cannot tell the diff between 400,500 or 600 lbs ... they all seem heavy .. for 600 you just have to squeeze and try harder " ::)
i have to agree here, anyone saying that a six plate per side deadlift isn't impressive has obviously never attempted anything close to that, that's a BIG pull no matter what you weigh.
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Just because your genetics aren't the best doesn't mean you should be so surprised when someone else has very good genetics.
Some of the best potential bodybuilders never even pick up a weight because they have a great physique already.
My little bro is 6' 200 lbs with shredded abs, a small waist and huge legs. He's got an unbelievable shoulder-to-waist ratio and does no weight training. He also eats 3 meals a day of total shit. He doesnt lift because he's already huge without having to do anything.
If he actually trained, he would be a total monster.
Get over it dude! There are many people with great genetics out there.
your little bro and you are 2 little putzs who don't know jack shit about bodybuilding
just shut your yapper turd
where do these guys come from ?
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Huge in what context? Pro Bodybuilder? NO average guy in the gym absolutely
find someone who is good at photshop and have them put an average pair of arms on him and i GAURANTEE you that he would look like an average guy on the street very quickly.
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be honest, besides the arms does this guy really look huge and impressive to you?
He's pressing his arm against his lat, nothing special on this picture.
I can believe he's natural.
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your little bro and you are 2 little putzs who don't know jack shit about bodybuilding
just shut your yapper turd
where do these #### come from ?
We both look MUCH better than you though!
You're a very ignorant person, Sevastase. You seem to like getting owned at every turn on this site.
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find someone who is good at photshop and have them put an average pair of arms on him and i GAURANTEE you that he would look like an average guy on the street very quickly.
Come on average guy in the street? in some pics it looks like he has heavyweights arms and a lightweight's torso I get what you're syaing but he's very impressive either way on or off
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Just because your genetics aren't the best doesn't mean you should be so surprised when someone else has very good genetics.
Get over it dude! There are many people with great genetics out there.
good genetics, great genetics, is ssome ab definition with muscles that are a little bit thick... for a dedicated bodybuilder great genetics is good cuts with dense muscle...or thick muscle with no cuts... good genetics never will be a bodybuilder phsyqiue... never ever will any human body ever create a bodybuilder physique naturally on its own.. its..unnatural !
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sevatase is an idiot
who managed to get to a buck fifty on a massive stack of dianabol
brutal third world fu ck wit
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Come on average guy in the street? in some pics it looks like he has heavyweights arms and a lightweight's torso I get what you're syaing but he's very impressive either way on or off
i agree with you in that he does have a very good build due mostly to his condition and shape but sizewise he just doesn't impress me that much.
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i have to agree here, anyone saying that a six plate per side deadlift isn't impressive has obviously never attempted anything close to that, that's a BIG pull no matter what you weigh.
Can you believe that this fuccker is sitting here trying to bullshit me that be benches double his bodyweight and deadlifts triple while on oreo cookies redbull and some beef his supermodel girlfriend cooked ?
Question for whomever is posting in this thread
DO ANY OF YOU FUCKERS EVER HAD 400LBS ON TOP OF YOU ON THE BENCH ?
ANYBODY FELT 500 TO 600 LBS WHILE YOU ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SQUAT OF CROUCHED STARTING TO DEADLIFT WHILE YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS ARE POPPING OUT AND THERE'S MORE INTERNAL PRESSURE THAN IF YOU'D BE FUCKED BY AN ELEFANT ?
I'm waiting for answers
....'cause ....maybe just 'cause you don't have a fucking clue how heavy a 600 lbs deadlift really is ...
or a 400lbs bench .
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Can you believe that this fuccker is sitting here trying to bullshit me that be benches double his bodyweight and deadlifts triple while on oreo cookies redbull and some beef his supermodel girlfriend cooked ?
Question for whomever is posting in this thread
DO ANY OF YOU FUCKERS EVER HAD 400LBS ON TOP OF YOU ON THE BENCH ?
ANYBODY FELT 500 TO 600 LBS WHILE YOU ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SQUAT OF CROUCHED STARTING TO DEADLIFT WHILE YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS ARE POPPING OUT AND THERE'S MORE INTERNAL PRESSURE THAN IF YOU'D BE FUCKED BY AN ELEFANT ?
I'm waiting for answers
....'cause ....maybe just 'cause you don't have a fucking clue how heavy a 600 lbs deadlift really is ...
or a 400lbs bench .
totally agreed, i once had a training partner help me just UNRACK a 405 bench and it felt like my arms were going to break, it literally felt like a dump truck in my hands.
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good genetics, great genetics, is ssome ab definition with muscles that are a little bit thick... for a dedicated bodybuilder great genetics is good cuts with dense muscle...or thick muscle with no cuts... good genetics never will be a bodybuilder phsyqiue... never ever will any human body ever create a bodybuilder physique naturally on its own.. its..unnatural !
Here's an example.
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be honest, besides the arms does this guy really look huge and impressive to you?
Huge no way, but I wish I had his genetics. Excellent pecs in the other pic, and tris are my strong point but he's destroying me.
I could believe he's on a little something but only meso knows for sure. Looks good either way.
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Can you believe that this fuccker is sitting here trying to bullshit me that be benches double his bodyweight and deadlifts triple while on oreo cookies redbull and some beef his supermodel girlfriend cooked ?
Question for whomever is posting in this thread
DO ANY OF YOU FUCKERS EVER HAD 400LBS ON TOP OF YOU ON THE BENCH ?
ANYBODY FELT 500 TO 600 LBS WHILE YOU ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SQUAT OF CROUCHED STARTING TO DEADLIFT WHILE YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS ARE POPPING OUT AND THERE'S MORE INTERNAL PRESSURE THAN IF YOU'D BE FUCKED BY AN ELEFANT ?
I'm waiting for answers
....'cause ....maybe just 'cause you don't have a fucking clue how heavy a 600 lbs deadlift really is ...
or a 400lbs bench .
None of this is relevant to the conversation. I don't give a shit about what you lift, dude...nor does anyone else for that matter.
The bottom line is that you don't know much about what constitutes great genetics. It's OK to admit it.
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Here's an example.
yeah dude, exactly, did my one small post change your mind on this issue after sev's dozens of posts could not ? lol my words have a mighty power of persuaion ! ahah
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Huge no way, but I wish I had his genetics. Excellent pecs in the other pic, and tris are my strong point but he's destroying me.
I could believe he's on a little something but only meso knows for sure. Looks good either way.
meso is a hard call. i'm thinking cats i played ball with down South and at the gym. Who was on something and who wasnt??? i did some of his lifts 5-7 yrs ago when i was interested in putting size on but was never that cut but as strong. brother dont need gear for those lifts...just recovery time between sets.
again...cant pull anyone from memory to compare to those first shots. the ones at the gym later...he looks a bit off. the bicep shots...he just got good guns. tricep?
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yeah dude, exactly, did my one small post change your mind on this issue after sev's dozens of posts could not ? lol my words have a mighty power of persuaion ! ahah
I agreed with your earlier post. Sevastase is nothing but another hapless soul in search of an idol to worship.
The guy in the pics is impressive, but not the GREATEST GENETICS EVER!
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I agreed with your earlier post. Sevastase is nothing but another hapless soul in search of an idol to worship.
The guy in the pics is impressive, but not the GREATEST GENETICS EVER!
if meso is natural than nobody has better genetics than he. thats a truth.
the guy you posted is skinny and what a normal persons going to look like if they are dedicated and train hard and eat right.
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None of this is relevant to the conversation. I don't give a shit about what you lift, dude...nor does anyone else for that matter.
The bottom line is that you don't know much about what constitutes great genetics. It's OK to admit it.
IT is relevant you dimwitted fuck ....
you are a wanna be who never even aproached those kindanumbers ....
so let the grown ups talk and go play with the other girls
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I agreed with your earlier post. Sevastase is nothing but another hapless soul in search of an idol to worship.
The guy in the pics is impressive, but not the GREATEST GENETICS EVER!
epicnot realizingI was VERY ironic ...hahahaha
you are dumber than I expected
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He looks natural to me, just because someone looks better and is stronger than most of you doesn't mean he's on steroids. He's not the tallest individual so achieving that physique natural is not out of the question.
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IT is relevant you dimwitted fuck ....
you are a wanna be who never even aproached those kindanumbers ....
so let the grown ups talk and go play with the other girls
You're a lost soul, Sevastase. You don't have a clue of what numbers I've approached.
You don't have a damn clue of anything, really. You're a bald, ugly bastard who parades around as "hardcore."
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You're a lost soul, Sevastase. You don't have a clue of what numbers I've approached.
You don't have a damn clue of anything, really. You're a bald, ugly bastard who parades around as "hardcore."
you could prove your claims very easily by posting some proof and shutting everyone up. :D
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dude no offense because i respect you but honestly the only big thing on you is your arms, based on this photo i see an average chest, aversge delts and very small forearms, i'm guessing your back is pretty good due to your race, most black guys have great backs but when you say you look "really big" i have to laugh to myself.
;)
like i said in person... i look big.... because of muscle shape and that pic is like 5 yrs old...
i was 185 max there
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sevatase is an idiot
who managed to get to a buck fifty on a massive stack of dianabol
brutal third world fu ck wit
Yes, he's a classic half-wit with no change of succeeding out in the real world with normal people.
This guy "sevastase" is the classic bodybuilding no-life who spends an inordinate amount of time following the sport, but not actually having much to show regarding his own person.
I think his family members need to stage an intervention and get this guy back on the straight and narrow. He's starting to believe he knows what constitutes good genetics...or which he does not have good genetics at all.
Stop wasting your time with this bodybuilding stuff, Seva. Your interest and your talent are conflicting.
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Yes, he's a classic half-wit with no change of succeeding out in the real world with normal people.
This guy "sevastase" is the classic bodybuilding no-life who spends an inordinate amount of time following the sport, but not actually having much to show regarding his own person.
I think his family members need to stage an intervention and get this guy back on the straight and narrow. He's starting to believe he knows what constitutes good genetics...or which he does not have good genetics at all.
Stop wasting your time with this bodybuilding stuff, Seva. Your interest and your talent are conflicting.
at least he's posted clips of a 405 bench and 500 squat as opposed to you, show us some proof of your bodybuilding knowledge.
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you could prove your claims very easily by posting some proof and shutting everyone up. :D
There's no need. Unlike you guys, I am not the one claiming anything.
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Huge in what context? Pro Bodybuilder? NO average guy in the gym absolutely
thank you...
and i keep sayin that pic is 5 yrs ago .. i'm like 15lb 20lb heavier heavier
:-\ :-\ :-\
thanks for bringing some basic common sense to this thread ND
any quaker..and sweet flexington and sev
i leave you to this thread now.
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at least he's posted clips of a 405 bench and 500 squat as opposed to you, show us some proof of your bodybuilding knowledge.
I don't really need to prove anything to you. You guys are not anyone I seek to impress.
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I don't really need to prove anything to you. You guys are not anyone I seek to impress.
traslation=your arms shake benching 165.
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traslation=your arms shake benching 165.
Keep being a fatass, Quaker. You'll never have the privilege of knowing much about me.
I'll post some pics whenever I feel like it! It might be a couple of days, it might be a couple of weeks, it might be a couple of years, it might be NEVER.
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be honest, besides the arms does this guy really look huge and impressive to you?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49493;image)
actually he looks pretty impressive....considerin g his weight ~190 and being ripped....he has a pretty thick chest, not weak...and forearms look ok...
And his shoulders must be pretty well developed.....they dont "hang" and non-existand like arnolds for exampple...
thats my opinion....he might be natural or he might not...he knows..
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Keep being a fatass, Quaker. You'll never have the privilege of knowing much about me.
I'll post some pics whenever I feel like it! It might be a couple of days, it might be a couple of weeks, it might be a couple of years, it might be NEVER.
hahahahaha, epic exclamation mark and capital letters meltdown, i can sense the emotion coming from you because i struck a nerve. :D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49493;image)
actually he looks pretty impressive....considerin g his weight ~190 and being ripped....he has a pretty thick chest, not weak...and forearms look ok...
And his shoulders must be pretty well developed.....they dont "hang" and non-existand like arnolds for exampple...
thats my opinion....he might be natural or he might not...he knows..
sorry man but all i see there is a small guy with very good condition.
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sorry man but all i see there is a small guy with very good condition.
I disagree I think he's thick where a bodybuilder should be thick , pecs , arms and back with a small tight waist that's highly defined , he looks great no matter if he was on or off I think he's being honest what does he gain by lying? GetBig respect? lol
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sorry man but all i see there is a small guy with very good condition.
Anyway,
the only way to find out if meso is natural or not is to post a pic of his LEGS, of course if he wants to. Meso, its for good purpose, not trying to insult you here.
a. "small" legs, with excelent shape in quads, ripped, veins etc = not natural
b "small" legs, with pretty good shape in quads etc but lack detail = natural
I say "small" legs, bacause he said that he hates training them, so either nat or not they are "small" for his rest of his body.
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;D ;D
legs will never catch the upper body...
i never used to train legs
they are ok but not on par with the upperbody
but i will fix that i love the challenge
8)
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;D ;D
legs will never catch the upper body...
i never used to train legs
they are ok but not on par with the upperbody
but i will fix that i love the challenge
8)
take a pic bro, seriously...
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I disagree I think he's thick where a bodybuilder should be thick , pecs , arms and back with a small tight waist that's highly defined , he looks great no matter if he was on or off I think he's being honest what does he gain by lying? GetBig respect? lol
once again you bring logic to this crazy thread
i have registered on this site 2004 i have mad 2000 post
quaker oats has come back from his 3 acount
his latest comeback was like 3 months ago
and he has doubled my posts
and i have been here for 4 years and a half
.... why would i need to lie on here...for getbig respect
i hardy post here if you work it out...
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HI-larious
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once again you bring logic to this crazy thread
i have registered on this site 2004 i have mad 2000 post
quaker oats has come back from his 3 acount
his latest comeback was like 3 months ago
and he has doubled my posts
and i have been here for 4 years and a half
.... why would i need to lie on here...for getbig respect
i hardy post here if you work it out...
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HI-larious
At least people can read Dave's posts. You type like a fucking 5 year old autistic retard with ADD. And you fucking come here because you love all this attention and ten page threads about you being a lifetime natty that only eats two junk food meals a day whilst sporting 20 inch arms and almost pro level conditioning. That's right, the natural who pretends to have never heard of prohormones and sports a physique better than anyone from the pre steroid era. What's this great 'banking job' you claim to have? If it's real then no wonder the world economy is going down shit creek ::)
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Can you believe that this fuccker is sitting here trying to bullshit me that be benches double his bodyweight and deadlifts triple while on oreo cookies redbull and some beef his supermodel girlfriend cooked ?
Question for whomever is posting in this thread
DO ANY OF YOU FUCKERS EVER HAD 400LBS ON TOP OF YOU ON THE BENCH ?
ANYBODY FELT 500 TO 600 LBS WHILE YOU ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SQUAT OF CROUCHED STARTING TO DEADLIFT WHILE YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS ARE POPPING OUT AND THERE'S MORE INTERNAL PRESSURE THAN IF YOU'D BE FUCKED BY AN ELEFANT ?
I'm waiting for answers
....'cause ....maybe just 'cause you don't have a fucking clue how heavy a 600 lbs deadlift really is ...
or a 400lbs bench .
500lbs deadlift is nothing to brag about. I done that at 19 less than 200lbs
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hahahaha, i honestly dodn't understand why this guy makes himself out to be so mind boggling HUGE, like i said dude has big arms and some condition but guys like that "adrian" dude blow the guy out of the water.
Meso never made himself out to vbe huge in fairness.
Other people did
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500lbs deadlift is nothing to brag about. I done that at 19 less than 200lbs
Certainly not anything to brag about on Getbig.
In this little corner of cyberspace lurk the world's most impressive lifetime naturals. 20 inch arms, extreme feats of strength, the razor ripped conditioning of an IFBB pro. None of these are hard for a Getbig liftime natural.
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Meso is a beast and i have all the respect in the world for him.
Good pics make people look infinately better. E.g this is me at 18 years old. I must be 190lbs max with 16.5" arms pumped. Yet they look much bigger
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lookin good goud...
for me pics are ok
but i look better in real life most definetley
how's training?
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I am sure you get my pint as i am only 18 there but look kinda big.
Everyone says that to me. Pics never do me justice lol
Trianing is going well atm. No injuries at minute. Bench in particular is rising fast and i am getting bigger too. Will maybea dd a few vids on my log next week.
Flat benching 275lbs just (125kg) paused reps on the bench very easily for 5 sets of 7-8.
How about you buddy
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I am sure you get my pint as i am only 18 there but look kinda big.
Everyone says that to me. Pics never do me justice lol
Trianing is going well atm. No injuries at minute. Bench in particular is rising fast and i am getting bigger too. Will maybea dd a few vids on my log next week.
Flat benching 275lbs just (125kg) paused reps on the bench very easily for 5 sets of 7-8.
How about you buddy
looking diesel goudy
people give you mad props on here
so you have no room to whinge
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Certainly not anything to brag about on Getbig.
In this little corner of cyberspace lurk the world's most impressive lifetime naturals. 20 inch arms, extreme feats of strength, the razor ripped conditioning of an IFBB pro. None of these are hard for a Getbig liftime natural.
With my genetics ... I probably have to diet for at least 7-8 weeks, use suspension or atleast some test, get on t3 and clen and ECA ...do cardio at least 1 hour a day, and diet stricly to get to the level of bodyfat meso78 is dysplaying here ...
even gh15 called him a liar a while back on the same subject ...
like gh15, me, and anybody who ever did indeed lift heavy and or bodybuilded competitively .... know that you cannot carry that much muscle at that low of bodyfat without :
hormones, orals and corticosteroids to maintain mass
fatburners and thyroid hormones to go under 7%
DIET as in strict diet
to deadlift 585 @ 200 lbs ... oh brother ...where do we start ?
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I am sure you get my pint as i am only 18 there but look kinda big.
Everyone says that to me. Pics never do me justice lol
Trianing is going well atm. No injuries at minute. Bench in particular is rising fast and i am getting bigger too. Will maybea dd a few vids on my log next week.
Flat benching 275lbs just (125kg) paused reps on the bench very easily for 5 sets of 7-8.
How about you buddy
HERE WE GO
Another natural Ted Arcidi on the boards ...
what's your max and do you have a clip ?
cause yapping we all do ...
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looking diesel goudy
people give you mad props on here
so you have no room to whinge
LOL no sweat buddyHERE WE GO
Another natural Ted Arcidi on the boards ...
what's your max and do you have a clip ?
cause yapping we all do ...
yes i have numerous clips. Max is 375lbs.
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LOL no sweat buddy
yes i have numerous clips. Max is 375lbs.
give us a link to your max....
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I am sure you get my pint as i am only 18 there but look kinda big.
Everyone says that to me. Pics never do me justice lol
Trianing is going well atm. No injuries at minute. Bench in particular is rising fast and i am getting bigger too. Will maybea dd a few vids on my log next week.
Flat benching 275lbs just (125kg) paused reps on the bench very easily for 5 sets of 7-8.
How about you buddy
yeah your looking very big there... even bigger when u consider you were 18
training is going good for me havent benched since i was in miami and i didnt max there...
315 for 10 on flat was my last of 3 sets
and on decline too
... ive been doing mainly dumbell presses at the minute
my arms are gettin better... prioritized them so so i can get them better
also trying to hit my black man calves hard ;D ;D
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This is only 341lbs but prexhausted by 3 sets of 10 paused reps with 265lbs
I dont have a vid of my max though i am sure from this video you can believe me.
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yeah your looking very big there... even bigger when u consider you were 18
training is going good for me havent benched since i was in miami and i didnt max there...
315 for 10 on flat was my last of 3 sets
and on decline too
... ive been doing mainly dumbell presses at the minute
my arms are gettin better... prioritized them so so i can get them better
also trying to hit my black man calves hard ;D ;D
ha ha i wish i could hit 300lbs for even one set of 10 lol
haha i have been hitting my skinny white man calves also. added an inch and they still look pathetic so i am sure you can only imagine the state they were in before lol
For arms i am just pumping them with light weight for a while...too heavy on too many things causes problems IMO
Seen the 160lb video...awesome!
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good press goud....
im beginning to see
about 30% of people here actually work out hard....
the other 70% are internet trolls with multiple accounts....
someone has been pming me the name of the trolls and their gimmick accounts
very sad...
you truly wouldnt believe what really goes on behind the scenes...
sad and pathetic :-\
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good press goud....
im beginning to see
about 30% of people here actually work out hard....
the other 70% are internet trolls with multiple accounts....
someone has been pming me the name of the trolls and their gimmick accounts
very sad...
you truly wouldnt believe what really goes on behind the scenes...
sad and pathetic :-\
us good guys gotta stick together bro !
blue approved
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ha ha i wish i could hit 300lbs for even one set of 10 lol
haha i have been hitting my skinny white man calves also. added an inch and they still look pathetic so i am sure you can only imagine the state they were in before lol
For arms i am just pumping them with light weight for a while...too heavy on too many things causes problems IMO
Seen the 160lb video...awesome!
ha ha ha bad whiteman calves = great black man calves
trust me on this
;D ;D ;D
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good press goud....
im beginning to see
about 30% of people here actually work out hard....
the other 70% are internet trolls with multiple accounts....
someone has been pming me the name of the trolls and their gimmick accounts
very sad...
you truly wouldnt believe what really goes on behind the scenes...
sad and pathetic :-\
i can only imagine. Shame really. I get a lot of PM's from good guys just asking wee tips and bits of advice. More than happy to help them out. These are teh same guys who either joke about in a good/non offensive way or just contribute sensibly.
More than ahppy to help them or at least offer my advice
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This is only 341lbs but prexhausted by 3 sets of 10 paused reps with 265lbs
I dont have a vid of my max though i am sure from this video you can believe me.
:D :D :D
that's 335 for alousy single...even that was shaky
newsflash ...you are nowere near 375x1 even on gear
and stop the BS with " this is after 8 sets of 10 paused reps ..."
You spoke 50 lbs too soon
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i can only imagine. Shame really. I get a lot of PM's from good guys just asking wee tips and bits of advice. More than happy to help them out. These are teh same guys who either joke about in a good/non offensive way or just contribute sensibly.
More than ahppy to help them or at least offer my advice
how bout me u 2 pinochios ?
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at least he's posted clips of a 405 bench and 500 squat as opposed to you, show us some proof of your bodybuilding knowledge.
where are they? i'd like to see them...am just curious. 8x45 w/45bar for a natural. i never bothered with deads so i dont know about the 585 or so. i'm basically his size and football strong in the past but never tried it. 6x45 was my max. i've seen some big cats (brothers) fat and muscular battle with that and were much, much bigger men in the gym. they only managed one rep. seen guy jacked on s##t with his girl spotting in which he did it for reps. anyway...good debate.
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that is a 20kg 44lb bar
1x25kg 55lb a side
2x20kg 44lb a side
1x2.5kg 5.5lb plate a side.
total of 341lbs
How about this...i have chest on monday. Will i post my workout vids and zoom in to the weights?
Yes or no. Also that was preexhausted 3x10
If i show you me doing that will you apologise and say "i am sorry John. You were right i was wrong"
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where are they? i'd like to see them...am just curious. 8x45 w/45bar for a natural. i never bothered with deads so i dont know about the 585 or so. i'm basically his size and football strong in the past but never tried it. 6x45 was my max. i've seen some big cats (brothers) fat and muscular battle with that and were much, much bigger men in the gym. they only managed one rep. seen guy jacked on s##t with his girl spotting in which he did it for reps. anyway...good debate.
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well sevaste...i asked a question :)
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(http://www.comstation.com/orlando/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/paradiseisland.jpg)
:D
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Can you believe that this fuccker is sitting here trying to bullshit me that be benches double his bodyweight and deadlifts triple while on oreo cookies redbull and some beef his supermodel girlfriend cooked ?
Question for whomever is posting in this thread
DO ANY OF YOU FUCKERS EVER HAD 400LBS ON TOP OF YOU ON THE BENCH ?
ANYBODY FELT 500 TO 600 LBS WHILE YOU ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SQUAT OF CROUCHED STARTING TO DEADLIFT WHILE YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS ARE POPPING OUT AND THERE'S MORE INTERNAL PRESSURE THAN IF YOU'D BE FUCKED BY AN ELEFANT ?
I'm waiting for answers
....'cause ....maybe just 'cause you don't have a fucking clue how heavy a 600 lbs deadlift really is ...
or a 400lbs bench .
I have, but just more :) I benched twice my weight. At 290 I did a 585. My goal was 600 and never got it. That is in a t-shirt.
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that is a 20kg 44lb bar
1x25kg 55lb a side
2x20kg 44lb a side
1x2.5kg 5.5lb plate a side.
total of 341lbs
How about this...i have chest on monday. Will i post my workout vids and zoom in to the weights?
Yes or no. Also that was preexhausted 3x10
If i show you me doing that will you apologise and say "i am sorry John. You were right i was wrong"
just fucking post asingle with 375 lbs without your buddy touching the bar ...
I don't give a fuck if you do circle jerks beforehand with your gym buddies ...
I never had such debates with anyone who actually lifted big weights before ...
only internet warriors who constantly grow bigger and stronger naturally
you been growing non stop since you started posting here ...you'd think you're pudzianowsky by now ....
::)
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how bout me u 2 pinochios ?
you train ..
never dissed your clips... looked legit to me
but your jealous.... why.. i dunno
and you are weak of mind.. because you took steroids... and acheived certain results... then that means anyone who has had better results must have taken drugs....
one of the reasons i always get better is because I dont want to now what my limit naturally is... and because i dont mentally know my limit i always strive for better
you got to a point where you possibly thought u had hit ur limit so you took steroids...
me i have no limit....in my mind and thats fuels my love of training...
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I have, but just more :) I benched twice my weight. At 290 I did a 585. My goal was 600 and never got it. That is in a t-shirt.
THANK YOU !
Keith ... would you explain these fuckers just how big were you when you did it ?
( and if you think a 200 pounder can naturally deadlift 600 on 2 meals and oreos )
also maybe you can tell how heavy a 600 lbs feels ...
( well for mere mortals not governmental rejects from Project Superman )
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(http://www.comstation.com/orlando/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/paradiseisland.jpg)
:D
jamaican ? ;D
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I am not maxing out for teh sake of it i have a routine and scheudle to stick to.
I will video my work sets however then do a heavier single around 340-50 again to show you.
No point in me maxing out for the sake of it. I believe that is fair.
Also the reason i grow consistently is cos i dont take gear balloon up 40lbs then shrink like yourself.
i am off to mass now. No plans for later i dont think so will check later.
Is that fair?
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THANK YOU !
Keith ... would you explain these fuckershow big were ytou when you did it ?
also maybe you can tell how heavy a 600 lbs feels ...
( well for mere mortals not governmental rejects from Project Superman )
Well I weighed 290 and am 6'1". This pic was taken by my girlfriend the day I did that lift cause it was the day before I left for the Over the Top world championships. My goal was to bench 600 before that event. I failed. I think I could have done it but I did to many sets leading up to it. The 585 went up pretty easy and steady but when I loaded the next weight it just came down and that was the LAST time I ever tried 600. The most I have ever deadlifted was 735. I have a bad lower back so I never really deadlifted much. That was with no straps and a belt in sweatpants and t-shirt. That exercise was just to hard on me to do it much.
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10 plates for legs is nothing. strongest muscle group on bod. pretty good w/the bench at 405. guess it is possible. granted i lift for shape and look more than how strong vs other cats in the gym...so i'm sure there lifts i could do with more weight but i'll pass. anyway...meso's 405 is probably accurate. probably could do more given his development vs your's. now the question is does he use?
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do a name search and see me deadlift 500 for one at 185
i posted it 4 yrs ago
on the picture thread
i dont give a flying F who deadlifted what weight at what bodyweight
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i saw a clip of you squatting 5 plaes and u looked tiny and u did it with good form do u know hw many huuuge bbers on gear cant do that with the kind of form you did..
watch branch warren squatting 405 shit form
so by your theory you better erase that lift from you memory because technically you squatted better than branch
...
tsk such a moron you are....
anyway thanks for creating this thread... i hope it achieves whatever goal you had in mind....
but doesnt change the fact i am natural...
hope that helped..
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10 plates for legs is nothing. strongest muscle group on bod. pretty good w/the bench at 405. guess it is possible. granted i lift for shape and look more than how strong vs other cats in the gym...so i'm sure there lifts i could do with more weight but i'll pass. anyway...meso's 405 is probably accurate. probably could do more given his development vs your's. now the question is does he use?
leave him
he just a jealous fool
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jamaican ? ;D
Better than ice cream! ;)
You're a prick dude but those were impressive vids.
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do a name search and see me deadlift 500 for one at 185
i posted it 4 yrs ago
on the picture thread
i dont give a flying F who deadlifted what weight at what bodyweight
....
i saw a clip of you squatting 5 plaes and u looked tiny and u did it with good form do u know hw many huuuge bbers on gear cant do that with the kind of form you did..
watch branch warren squatting 405 shit form
so by your theory you better erase that lift from you memory because technically you squatted better than branch
...
tsk such a moron you are....
anyway thanks for creating this thread... i hope it achieves whatever goal you had in mind....
but doesnt change the fact i am natural...
hope that helped..
if you dont want yahoos debating on your physique and stats...why would you post it on the net unlike blockhead who was photographed by some jacka$$ on here at an expo while he was just standing.
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10 plates for legs is nothing. strongest muscle group on bod. pretty good w/the bench at 405. guess it is possible. granted i lift for shape and look more than how strong vs other cats in the gym...so i'm sure there lifts i could do with more weight but i'll pass. anyway...meso's 405 is probably accurate. probably could do more given his development vs your's. now the question is does he use?
I love it ..........
only on getbig ...500x3 is nothing and benching atriple with 405 @ 200 is not that impressive
:D
also I love how there are lifts you could do with more weight but you'll PASS ::)
Oh man ....
my philosophy is quite simple : you either do it or you don't ....
to understand what I mean read Goudy's excuse : my dog ate my homework.
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I love it ..........
only on getbig ...500x3 is nothing and benching atriple with 405 @ 200 is not that impressive
:D
also I love how there are lifts you could do with more weight but you'll PASS ::)
Oh man ....
my philosophy is quite simple : you either do it or you don't ....
to understand what I mean read Goudy's excuse : my dog ate my homework.
yawn. bold white guy flipping out because i lift for shape. unreal. if i'm correct...shawn ray never like to go heavy.
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Better than ice cream! ;)
You're a prick dude but those were impressive vids.
to some getbiggers they are average ...
plus I wason massive doses ofroids at the time like you said ;D
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yawn. bold white flipping out because i lift for shape. unreal.
not flippin out at all buddy
what does "bold white " mean ? Is that slang ?
you lift for shape
translation " I'm a twinkie who handles 15 lbs dumbells with EASE "
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ha ha ha bad whiteman calves = great black man calves
trust me on this
;D ;D ;D
You have sev on upper body, but he crushes you on legs. I think your physique is totally attainable without juice, you are mostly an upper body guy. Nothing wrong with that though.
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not flippin out at all buddy
what does "bold white " mean ? Is that slang ?
you lift for shape
translation " I'm a twinkie who handles 15 lbs dumbells with EASE "
no problem there. if 5'10"220 is a twinkie...then get me that Hostess CupCake contract. ;)
By the way...I stop doing flat bench and free squats years ago. Kind of Bob Chick's thinking on those two exercises.
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no problem there. if 5'10"220 is a twinkie...then get me that Hostess CupCake contract. ;)
pics
you should look 10 x better than me ...almost 2 inches shorter and 40 lbs heavier ...
waiting for pictures
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no problem there. if 5'10"220 is a twinkie...then get me that Hostess CupCake contract. ;)
By the way...I stop doing flat bench and free squats years ago. Kind of Bob Chick's thinking on those two exercises.
Have you posted your pics? You probably have and I just missed it. 5'10 @ 220 is good size.
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pics
you should look 10 x better than me ...almost 2 inches shorter and 40 lbs heavier ...
waiting for pictures
read through all my posts....please. this site isnt that important to me. what's the point? so...i can impress a bunch of guys. ???
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You have sev on upper body, but he crushes you on legs. I think your physique is totally attainable without juice, you are mostly an upper body guy. Nothing wrong with that though.
hmmm
that may or may not be true
but tell me how did you come to that conclusion, especially considering the fact i have never posted a picture of my legs
???
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read through all my posts....please. this site isnt that important to me. what's the point? so...i can impress a bunch of guys. ???
Then why even bother posting your stats? Wasn't that to impress us?
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hmmm
that may or may not be true
but tell me how did you come to that conclusion, especially considering the fact i have never posted a picture of my legs
???
No biggie dude. You look great, but I an tell you don't have legs. I'm in the same boat, I train my legs heavy as hell and they still aren't as good as my upper body. That's why I only post upper body shots ;D Sev has good legs though man, gotta give him props for that!
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You have sev on upper body, but he crushes you on legs. I think your physique is totally attainable without juice, you are mostly an upper body guy. Nothing wrong with that though.
he might have better legs at how ripped he is ...
It's the natural shit I have a problem with ;D
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he might have better legs at how ripped he is ...
It's the natural shit I have a problem with ;D
No way! You have good legs dude. As gay as that sounds.
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No biggie dude. You look great, but I an tell you don't have legs. I'm in the same boat, I train my legs heavy as hell and they still aren't as good as my upper body. That's why I only post upper body shots ;D Sev has good legs though man, gotta give him props for that!
looking good man....
i have never ever dissed sev
in fact when everyone was dissin his vids i was defending them
my legs arent as good as my upperbody because for the fisrt couple of years i never trained them at all
they are ok...
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Meso you look solid man, You have an awesome build but I think you could be fudging your numbers just a tad. Just remember its all about how you look in the mirror my friend.
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wsup lats thanks for the compliment
.. what numbers do you think i have fudged...
those that pic posted of me is like 5 yrs old...
never fudged any numbers
i dont no need to
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Meso you look solid man, You have an awesome build but I think you could be fudging your numbers just a tad. Just remember its all about how you look in the mirror my friend.
he posted videos ...I've seen 160 lbs dumbell presses x 4 myself ...
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wsup lats thanks for the compliment
.. what numbers do you think i have fudged...
those that pic posted of me is like 5 yrs old...
never fudged any numbers
i dont no need to
If the numbers are accurate than all apologies brother, you really should consider competing.
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If the numbers are accurate than all apologies brother, you really should consider competing.
:D
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10 plates for legs is nothing. strongest muscle group on bod. pretty good w/the bench at 405. guess it is possible. granted i lift for shape and look more than how strong vs other cats in the gym...so i'm sure there lifts i could do with more weight but i'll pass. anyway...meso's 405 is probably accurate. probably could do more given his development vs your's. now the question is does he use?
10 plates is nothing ::) i'm glad you lift for shape, bet you spank those ten plates for warm up with those canon legs
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If the numbers are accurate than all apologies brother, you really should consider competing.
thanks bro...
competing... though.. naw..
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thanks bro...
competing... though.. naw..
look pretty good in that video...juice up and become a pro, doesn't that lifestyle appeal to you?
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Why is XFACTOR posting his pic in this thread, its irrelevant. please explain
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Why is XFACTOR posting his pic in this thread, its irrelevant. please explain
hi dex :D
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look pretty good in that video...juice up and become a pro, doesn't that lifestyle appeal to you?
thanks for the compliment man..
no..not even to be an amateur
taking drugs... eating a ton each day dieting.... no
plus the health factor look what happened to wheeler prince....matazzaro
just not worth it..
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thanks for the compliment man..
no..not even to be an amateur
taking drugs... eating a ton each day dieting.... no
plus the health factor look what happened to wheeler prince....matazzaro
just not worth it..
LOL. Every 6 months you gotta thrown under one of these threads, meso. Mark your calendar for April and get ready! :D
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Why is XFACTOR posting his pic in this thread, its irrelevant. please explain
Your entire existence is irrelevant. You speak when spoken to little man.
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Why is XFACTOR posting his pic in this thread, its irrelevant. please explain
who the fuck made you picture posting chief. X has every right to post his picture. that potato muncher goudy posted his. X is a cool guy who was making a point about training upperbody and legs. he's also not a bullshitter and claiming 'lifetime natural' like the liar is.
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who the fuck made you picture posting chief. X has every right to post his picture. that potato muncher goudy posted his. X is a cool guy who was making a point about training upperbody and legs. he's also not a bullshitter and claiming 'lifetime natural' like the liar is.
;)
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I feel bad I ripped so much on these liarS
To make it up ...I'll post this vid and let them rip on me ...it's pretty hillarious ...
Have at it boys hahahaha
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thanks for the compliment man..
no..not even to be an amateur
taking drugs... eating a ton each day dieting.... no
plus the health factor look what happened to wheeler prince....matazzaro
just not worth it..
yeah indeed, if you have a good career or aspects, that is prolly the best choise
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who cares if he is juiced or not? this thread is just here for sev and sourmuscles to justify their own inferior physiques. gotta give credit to Sev, although he is a little full of himself at times.. dude has a decent frame.
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who cares if he is juiced or not? this thread is just here for sev and sourmuscles to justify their own inferior physiques.
:D
you know it brother ;)
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I never made excuses as to why i would not do 375.
I gave proper reasons. It would fuck my CNS up. It's a max.
Also im 230lbs so 375 is only about 1.6x b/w...hardly groundbreaking
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I never made excuses as to why i would not do 375.
I gave proper reasons. It would fuck my CNS up. It's a max.
Also im 230lbs so 375 is only about 1.6x b/w...hardly groundbreaking
???, strangest excuse ever posted.
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I never made excuses as to why i would not do 375.
I gave proper reasons. It would fuck my CNS up. It's a max.
Also im 230lbs so 375 is only about 1.6x b/w...hardly groundbreaking
does not change the fact that you lied ( again )
and you cannot bench 375 for a single no matter what BS excuses you come up with ...
when you do ...post the vid ..
until then ...keep you big mouth shut and train ...Mr All Naturel ::)
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better not click your mouse too much you might "fry your CNS" ;D
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better not click your mouse too much you might "fry your CNS" ;D
:) LOL
Why are you so angry i bench 375lbs for?
vid 308lbsx6 almost a year old. Surely you can believe i have gotten stronger in a year
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:) LOL
Why are you so angry i bench 375lbs for?
you don't ...
you barely squeezed a shaky 330 lbs ....it's ok though ...not bad for a juicer
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it was 341...i explained the breakdown of the plates. 1x55lb, 2x44, 1x5.5lbs a side plus 44lb bar.
I think ill have a wee vid for you monday. Then using a simple 1RM calcultor you can get a rough idea you twerp.
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it was 341...i explained the breakdown of the plates. 1x55lb, 2x44, 1x5.5lbs a side plus 44lb bar.
I think ill have a wee vid for you monday. Then using a simple 1RM calcultor you can get a rough idea you twerp.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
posta fucking video of 375 lbs you little pusssy.. :D :D :D :D :D
stop asking me to use a calculator bAsed on a lesser weight hahahahahahhhaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaa
Is everybody reading how pathetic this retard is?????????????
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Ill post my workout video you gail porter lookalike then the intelligent and more educated people on getbig can decide.
I have nothing to gain from lying. If i was lying why would i not say i bench 400lbs then.
Not pathetic i think its reasonable
My other lifts also suggest i am capable. 130lb inclines, 200lbs strict military presses, 190lb weighted dips etc
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Cool man. I'll bring my abacus :D :D :D :D :D :D
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jeffzycinski/2008/05/images/abacus.jpg)
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Next time my parish is doing a bus run of clothes toys and food to romania ill send over a calculator just for you.
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LOL. Every 6 months you gotta thrown under one of these threads, meso. Mark your calendar for April and get ready! :D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Next time my parish is doing a bus run of clothes toys and food to romania ill send over a calculator just for you.
you aree one beautiful man Goudy ...
who the fuck hatched you ? ....
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee159/java1078/111007_ugly_woman_shirt.jpg)
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I doubt spermastase talks so much shit in real life, the guy is hating on absolutely everybody haha, hard to believe he may have any friends.
I can't believe you spent all your saturday uping this thread. So much consistancy in hating on other people you dont even know on an internet messageboard is just pure madness.
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Cool man. I'll bring my abacus :D :D :D :D :D :D
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jeffzycinski/2008/05/images/abacus.jpg)
Sev is on a roll here. Too funny.
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I doubt spermastase talks so much shit in real life, the guy is hating on absolutely everybody haha, hard to believe he may have any friends.
I can't believe you spent all your saturday uping this thread. So much consistancy in hating on other people you dont even know on an internet messageboard is just pure madness.
In reallife if you would give even a hint of trying to make a joke at my expense, I'd terrorize your sorry ass like the Achhhmed The Dead tERRORIST
"i KILL U !!! "
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I feel bad I ripped so much on these liarS
To make it up ...I'll post this vid and let them rip on me ...it's pretty hillarious ...
Have at it boys hahahaha
You look absolutely terrible, please kill yourself. :)
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You look absolutely terrible, please kill yourself. :)
I know I looked terrible in that video ...it's funny...that's why I posted it .
do you have a video ?
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I realize that, put your posing was good, I'll give you that. ;)
Why would I have a video lol?
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I know I looked terrible in that video ...it's funny...that's why I posted it .
do you have a video ?
Nothing gayer than one guy filming another in his tighty whities ::) with stand by me playing in the backround ::)
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fuck ! strong ass legs sev !
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Nothing gayer than one guy filming another in his tighty whities ::) with stand by me playing in the backround ::)
tight whiteys is a word used by men without style to describe normal underwear
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Nothing gayer than one guy filming another in his tighty whities ::) with stand by me playing in the backround ::)
everytime I set up the tripod and strip down to my underwear in the locker room, I keep forgetting to hit record before going thru my mandatories. :-\
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Nothing gayer than one guy filming another in his tighty whities ::) with stand by me playing in the backround ::)
I know ! I was thinking the same and lughing when I watched the video ..hahahaha
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tight whiteys is a word used by men without style to describe normal underwear
style is a word men use when they are attracted to other men
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tight whiteys is a word used by men without style to describe normal underwear
If you say so and what is bi-sexual used to describe, you? You really meant homo didn't you!! Sick Taylor just sick!!!
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style is a word men use when they are attracted to other men
are you saying that im attracted to sevastase ? lol.. no not sevastase sorry. but i do find briefs to be much more appealing than any other kind of underwear (other than of course my favorite kind of underwear - no underwear ! ;) ).. but i dont wear or buy white briefs.. i like black or dark grey or some kind of dark flat color... i have some nice ones now that have the padded elastic.. ohh so nice, i love taking off my pants when im wearing these.. :)
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everytime I set up the tripod and strip down to my underwear in the locker room, I keep forgetting to hit record before going thru my mandatories. :-\
:D
one of taco bell's mandatories ....there are more ...hahahaha
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/8e/38/2206431378a0e363b9cb6110._AA240_.L.jpg)
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Sev, though we've had our differences, and I still think the bench is suspect, that squat video is solid bro, nice f'n work.
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Sev, though we've had our differences, and I still think the bench is suspect, that squat video is solid bro, nice f'n work.
why would it be suspect ? same gym , same weights ...I look thinner on the video ....than in reality ...I was 97 kg there ...
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Sev that is some heavy ass fucking squatting right thur! You euros aren't as wimpy as they say! :)
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Sev that is some heavy ass fucking squatting right thur! You euros aren't as wimpy as they say! :)
pudzianowski, ver magnusson ,ahola, kirri, salvolainen, etc ...
what does strength have todo with where you are born and where you live ?
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why would it be suspect ? same gym , same weights ...I look thinner on the video ....than in reality ...I was 97 kg there ...
well, they do not appear to be the same weights, the squats are silver in color and the bench plates are red.
And frankly, I have a hard time believing you can move 405 like that. If they were 35's that would be 325 and still a good lift and much more believable.
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pudzianowski, ver magnusson ,ahola, kirri, salvolainen, etc ...
what does strength have todo with where you are born and where you live ?
I have never seen red 20kg plates...25's yes not 20's.
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I have never seen red 20kg plates...25's yes not 20's.
You're joking right?
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well, they do not appear to be the same weights, the squats are silver in color and the bench plates are red.
And frankly, I have a hard time believing you can move 405 like that. If they were 35's that would be 325 and still a good lift and much more believable.
::)
the above clip is 315 x 10 ..there's also a clip of 405x 3 it has been played to death ...
we been through this before ;)
whatever makes you feel better about yourself ...
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You're joking right?
No just saying/. Not disputing his lift i dont care.
Most 20kg plates in Europe are metal or blue.
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I have never seen red 20kg plates...25's yes not 20's.
you also have never been outside your village ever hahahahaha
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???
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the above clip is 315 x 10 ..there's also a clip of 405x 3 it has been played to death ...
we been through this before ;)
whatever makes you feel better about yourself ...
The above bench vid is the 405x3.
This has nothing to do with me sev, I feel good about myself, you've seen my pics bro, I'm much much bigger.
If that bench is legit though, you may very well be stronger, I have not gone above 315 in quite some time.
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What village do you live in Goudy?
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you also have never been outside your village ever hahahahaha
Shit over 12 hours since I logged in and you are still melting about this...
???
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The above bench vid is the 405x3.
This has nothing to do with me sev, I feel good about myself, you've seen my pics bro, I'm much much bigger.
If that bench is legit though, you may very well be stronger, I have not gone above 315 in quite some time.
I stand correct :
my bench IS legit
I AM stronger
where are your pics again ?
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What village do you live in Goudy?
A little 'village' called Belfast
Belfast in Ireland mate. Sev is just having about of roid rage
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I stand correct :
my bench IS legit
I AM stronger
where are your pics again ?
TB dwarfs you.
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The above bench vid is the 405x3.
This has nothing to do with me sev, I feel good about myself, you've seen my pics bro, I'm much much bigger.
If that bench is legit though, you may very well be stronger, I have not gone above 315 in quite some time.
you are much much bigger cause you prolly take much much more ...hahahaha ... use your brain ...
lets see pictures of you ...hold a sign saying sevastase
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No just saying/. Not disputing his lift i dont care.
Most 20kg plates in Europe are metal or blue.
They usually are blue but they also come in other colors. Where I lift, they are black.
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Actually I'm clean these days, and you took 1g of test and 100mg dbol each day, thats 1700mg of total anabolics each week....I definitely have never taken 'more' than that ;)
But while we're discussing this, I've given you props on your lifts, I'm trying to engage you civilly, is there a reason you are being so argumentative??
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Actually I'm clean these days, and you took 1g of test and 100mg dbol each day, thats 1700mg of total anabolics each week....I definitely have never taken 'more' than that ;)
But while we're discussing this, I've given you props on your lifts, I'm trying to engage you civilly, is there a reason you are being so argumentative??
I only used 100 mg dbol for 5 weeks after which I posted videos and pics ...
why do you exagerate adding 1 g of test ?
and stop acting like you given me props on lifts ..you keep suggesting they are fake ...
::)
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They usually are blue but they also come in other colors. Where I lift, they are black.
we got black,purple, red,blue black and yellow, red and silver ....
goudy should get out of that IRA infested country more often
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I only used 100 mg dbol for 5 weeks after which I posted videos and pics ...
why do you exagerate adding 1 g of test ?
and stop acting like you given me props on lifts ..you keep suggesting they are fake ...
::)
Not true, please go back and read.
I said that squat was top quality, no if ands or buts about it.
I said the bench was suspect under the assumption that its 405. 405 is a hell of a bench, and if its legit than you are a strong sob, especially considering that I would not assume you could lift that much based on your physique, which is not a knock on you at all. As I said, even if that was 325 it was a good lift, but if its 405, than you are freakishly strong. I have met some freakishly strong people before, I know they are out there, and if you are one of them, kudos to you.
And I thought you were on 1g of sust, if I am mistaken than I apologize.
No need to be defensive bro, I've come to the conclusion that there are way too many gimmicks and twats posting here, that I should not be arguing with those who are atleast serious lifters....even if you do have some rather strange homo-erotic tendencies. :P
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As far as the nutrition board ..I'm ok ...I'm a free lance nutritionist and that's how I make a living.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha ha i don't believe it.
not only are you a MMA superstar, a tennis coach, a bodybuilder, a powerlifter, but also a nutritionist ::)
is there anything you cannot do sava ;D
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DO ANY OF YOU FUCKERS EVER HAD 400LBS ON TOP OF YOU ON THE BENCH ?
ANYBODY FELT 500 TO 600 LBS WHILE YOU ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SQUAT OF CROUCHED STARTING TO DEADLIFT WHILE YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS ARE POPPING OUT AND THERE'S MORE INTERNAL PRESSURE THAN IF YOU'D BE FUCKED BY AN ELEFANT ?
this was funny hahahahahahahahahahaha
seva you make me laugh :D
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thats 1700mg of total anabolics each week....I definitely have never taken 'more' than that ;)
hey.. i have a feeling.. i bet you used 50mg more than that per week... am i right? just a guess.
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seva - you are strong there is no denying this - however why are you built like an alien grey ???
your nutrition must be terrible, especially as you were on that amount of gear. :o
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seva - you are strong there is no denying this - however why are you built like an alien grey ???
your nutrition must be terrible, especially as you were on that amount of gear. :o
700mg per week is not anywhere near alot of gear.
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700mg per week is not anywhere near alot of gear. sevastase is just intelligent, and uses the best steroids alone. pussy ass mother fuckers running 20mg per day of a setroid and think they are gonna gain some real muscle. pussy ass mother fuckers 20mg aint shit ! thats right bitch ! 20mg aint shit ! bitch !
hahahahahaha ok then Mr T.
Studies prove different ;D
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West Indians and African Americans have some of the best genetics for muscle size, shape and density. I believe Meso is a natural because I've both seen dudes like him in my gym, and trained with them to boot.
I can spot a juicer a mile out, and he isn't one. A man of Meso's genetics would look even more cartoon-like with those genes.
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West Indians and African Americans have some of the best genetics for muscle size, shape and density. I believe Meso is a natural because I've both seen dudes like him in my gym, and trained with them to boot.
I can spot a juicer a mile out, and he isn't one. A man of Meso's genetics would look even more cartoon-like with those genes.
thx...
this thread was made out of pure ignorance and jealousy via sev
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hahahahahaha ok then Mr T.
Studies prove different ;D
What studies? Most studies using Test Enanthate have come to the conclusion that 600mgs of test is a good dose to build muscle yet avoid some sides. . Read Legal Muscle by Rick Colins. he's got a few good studies in his book.
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built.
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LOL. Every 6 months you gotta thrown under one of these threads, meso. Mark your calendar for April and get ready! :D
Hate to argue and all, but this one is early, we're ahead of the normal 6 month schedule here. I would make a guess we will have another thread of this nature in Dec, Jan at latest.
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Hate to argue and all, but this one is early, we're ahead of the normal 6 month schedule here. I would make a guess we will have another thread of this nature in Dec, Jan at latest.
HI-larious
;D ;D ;D ;D
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i don't believe it.
not only are you a MMA superstar, a tennis coach, a bodybuilder, a powerlifter, but also a nutritionist ::)
is there anything you cannot do sava ;D
I give Sev credit , I think he is quite a strong little guy but the fact remains he has poor genetics,looks like an average guy that lifts to get into shape..
Give someone with good genetics for building quality muscle and they would only need to train with 1/2 the weight but look 5 times as bigg and better..
Genetics are lost on so many here...
Oh he was a porn star as well i beleive.
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Sev is quite the romanian idol...
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West Indians and African Americans have some of the best genetics for muscle size, shape and density. I believe Meso is a natural because I've both seen dudes like him in my gym, and trained with them to boot.
I can spot a juicer a mile out, and he isn't one. A man of Meso's genetics would look even more cartoon-like with those genes.
Agree 8)
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Sev is quite the romanian idol...
Do you think they have that programe in Romania ?
Do you think there is more than one TV in Sevs Village?
Discuss
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Do you think they have that programe in Romania ?
Do you think there is more than one TV in Sevs Village?
Discuss
No, from what i've heard, Romania is quite the shit hole...
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What studies? Most studies using Test Enanthate have come to the conclusion that 600mgs of test is a good dose to build muscle yet avoid some sides. . Read Legal Muscle by Rick Colins. he's got a few good studies in his book.
that was sarcasm - i have been using that line quite a bit around here lately. ;D
i have a few great studies done with 600mg of test - and yes they show no/low sides with 600mg test.
all showed greater gains that seva though :-\
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we got black,purple, red,blue black and yellow, red and silver ....
goudy should get out of that IRA infested country more often
I was in Rome a few weeks ago.
Like i said schoolchildren here in Ireland send over their old clothes toys and tins of food to romania. So next time you open a ton of beans i am sure you will think of 'lil ole me' and be thankful :)
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I was in Rome a few weeks ago.
Like i said schoolchildren here in Ireland send over their old clothes toys and tins of food to romania. So next time you open a ton of beans i am sure you will think of 'lil ole me' and be thankful :)
::)
goudy ... let me tell you something ...
I bought my first nice car way before you got your drivers license ...
Ever thought I might be better off than you ? :D
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goudy ... let me tell you something ...
I bought my first nice car way before you got your drivers license ...
Ever thought I might be better off than you ? :D
and what a beauty it was
(http://www.lodgekyle.co.uk/p7ssm_img_3/fullsize/horse_and_cart_fs.jpg)
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and what a beauty it was
(http://www.lodgekyle.co.uk/p7ssm_img_3/fullsize/horse_and_cart_fs.jpg)
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goudy ... let me tell you something ...
I bought my first nice car way before you got your drivers license ...
Ever thought I might be better off than you ? :D
hahahahahahaa they don't have nice cars in Romania.........hahaahha stupid foreigner!!!! ;D
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goudy ... let me tell you something ...
I bought my first nice car way before you got your drivers license ...
Ever thought I might be better off than you ? :D
Let me tell you something...I am telling the truth. i probaly clothed and fed you in your teenage years.
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Let me tell you something...I am telling the truth. i probaly clothed and fed you in your teenage years.
oh brother ::)
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hahahahahahaa they don't have nice cars in Romania.........hahaahha stupid foreigner!!!! ;D
here's a romanian dude with a nice ride ...
(http://add-at-work.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/07_04_07_11201.jpg)
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here's a romanian dude with a nice ride ...
(http://add-at-work.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/07_04_07_11201.jpg)
Imported. ::)
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Imported. ::)
jesus ..you are dumber than previously established
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jesus ..you are dumber than previously established
Why did you just call Jesus dumb?
You're going to hell.
Wait, you're already there. :)
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Imported. ::)
A french car on a trailor.... undeniable proof of a romanian owner of such a expensive car. lol
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::)
goudy ... let me tell you something ...
I bought my first nice car way before you got your drivers license ...
Ever thought I might be better off than you ? :D
::) ::) ::)
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What I find funny is how Sevatase and Sweet Muscles not only hate on Meso, but then rationalise WHY it's not possible for anyone in the world to maintain such a physique and lift such poundages!
Guys, you should stop hating and concentrate on your own lifting - one day you too could attain such a standard.
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A french car on a trailor.... undeniable proof of a romanian owner of such a expensive car. lol
its not french dick wad
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Wasn't this thread about Meso...and why the fuck is it so hard to belive he is a natty. people lie on this site all the time but those who actualy provide evidence for their claims are among the mosst credible.
Meso's physique looks attainable and he has credability.
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What I find funny is how Sevatase and Sweet Muscles not only hate on Meso, but then rationalise WHY it's not possible for anyone in the world to maintain such a physique and lift such poundages!
Guys, you should stop hating and concentrate on your own lifting - one day you too could attain such a standard.
after 18 years of lifting weights you'll get it ;)
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This guy i know ersonally (Burn2Live) has accomplished more in a year and a half than many will ever.
Granted his genetics for strength are awesome and is dedicated as hell and is on a beauty of a routine...still cant compete with superior genetics
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after 18 years of lifting weights you'll get it ;)
18 years? You look tiny bro.
Good lifts though.
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This guy i know ersonally (Burn2Live) has accomplished more in a year and a half than many will ever.
Granted his genetics for strength are awesome and is dedicated as hell and is on a beauty of a routine...still cant compete with superior genetics
strong lifts - i sent him a pm.
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18 years? You look tiny bro.
Good lifts though.
I bodybuild in spurts ...I'll be big again ...such is bodybuilding ...I'm sure you're huge but won't post pics ;D
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its not french dick wad
Looks like a bugatti to me dickwad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti
Hmm founded in France, i could see how you'd think it wasn't a french car? ::)
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after 18 years of lifting weights you'll get it ;)
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not everyoneis a genetic marvel u know ..... ::)
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not everyoneis a genetic marvel u know ..... ::)
emmm world class lift for a natural bodybuilder, almost tripple bodyweight deads, double bodyweight bench ??? NO WAY. Very hard for someone esp a natural bber to bench 2x bw (u need short arms) and Dead 3x bw (u need long arms & short legs). simplest thing to do is post a vid or amybe he did, (didn't look through the whole thread) to shut everyone up.
Nice to see someone took over Squads job calling people out. Don't know why guys keep coming here and making certain claims. Aren't they familiar with what happened to Myesone, who trains at my gym and is a very cool guy and a friend of mine but gotta call it the way it is.
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emmm world class lift for a natural bodybuilder, almost tripple bodyweight deads, double bodyweight bench ??? NO WAY. Very hard for someone esp a natural bber to bench 2x bw (u need short arms) and Dead 3x bw (u need long arms & short legs). simplest thing to do is post a vid or amybe he did, (didn't look through the whole thread) to shut everyone up.
Nice to see someone took over Squads job calling people out. Don't know why guys keep coming here and making certain claims. Aren't they familiar with what happened to Myesone, who trains at my gym and is a very cool guy and a friend of mine but gotta call it the way it is.
are you inferring that "mesmorph" arms aren't 19 inches and he doesn't bench 405 Rudy? maybe meso doesn't understand how large a 19 inch muscular arm is.
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are you inferring that "mesmorph" arms aren't 19 inches and he doesn't bench 405 Rudy? maybe meso doesn't understand how large a 19 inch muscular arm is.
;D. wasn't inferring that but no those arm arnt 19. I'm sure meso will read this, no disrespect to you, not hating on you just stating what the obvious. Too many knowledgeable people on here to make claims like that and not get called out.
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those pics are 5 years old..... i was small there
there are clips of me taping my arms at 18.6 squad knows this... one year and a half ago.... see clips..
here are some clips of me measuring my arms rudy
measuring arms 1 cold unpumped
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/th_MeasuringArms1.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/?action=view¤t=MeasuringArms1.flv)
measuring arms 2 cold unpumped
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/th_MeasuringArms2.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/?action=view¤t=MeasuringArms2.flv)
that was a year and a half ago....
my arms are mow 19 inches cold...
im sorry quaker... 4 yrs of chasing me around tryin to diss me and you always fail
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emmm world class lift for a natural bodybuilder, almost tripple bodyweight deads, double bodyweight bench ??? NO WAY. Very hard for someone esp a natural bber to bench 2x bw (u need short arms) and Dead 3x bw (u need long arms & short legs). simplest thing to do is post a vid or amybe he did, (didn't look through the whole thread) to shut everyone up.
Nice to see someone took over Squads job calling people out. Don't know why guys keep coming here and making certain claims. Aren't they familiar with what happened to Myesone, who trains at my gym and is a very cool guy and a friend of mine but gotta call it the way it is.
I know a 59kh guy who deads over 190kilos naturally.
3x b/w naturally is common espec at lighter weights...hit 82.5 or 90kg then it gets real tough and becomes a real feat.
2x bw is very good though i know a guy (my coach) who at 6ft tall with a arm span of 6'6 benches 2x bw naturally at 154lbs
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I know a 59kh guy who deads over 190kilos naturally.
3x b/w naturally is common espec at lighter weights...hit 82.5 or 90kg then it gets real tough and becomes a real feat.
2x bw is very good though i know a guy (my coach) who at 6ft tall with a arm span of 6'6 benches 2x bw naturally at 154lbs
how do you know these guys are natural? 3x bw is EXTREMELY uncommon at ANY weight. I've been in many different hardcore bodybuilding and powerlifting gyms and have only seen one guy who can DL 3x bw, he does it with a competition suit on the wk before a meet. These guys are claiming they workout with it ??? I've HEARD of many, many guys who can but only saw one.
A friend of mine, Goss Destil (4th 2008 T.U. mw) walks around in the 190's and can pasue 455 and trains with 405lbs. He bench is heavier than his DL and squats. Many people are great at one but not both, exactly what you're pointing out with the guy with the DL and your coach with the bench.
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those pics are 5 years old..... i was small there
there are clips of me taping my arms at 18.6 squad knows this... one year and a half ago.... see clips..
here are some clips of me measuring my arms rudy
that was a year and a half ago....
my arms are mow 19 inches cold...
im sorry quaker... 4 yrs of chasing me around tryin to diss me and you always fail
Ok, respect for backing it up.. Thought the pics were recent. Pretty good peak, nice structure, good physique.
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gh15 asked you to stop mailin it about this nonesense,,yes the meso kid is on hormones on and off depending on what money he can afford to spend,,orals is favorite amongst africans due to fear of the needle then again any one else around bodybuilding is also on hormones,,stop with this nonesense he wouldnt be even 180lb at ^% any other way,,
yuo are talkin about it like the fella is some major competitor friends,dont waste my last few months on getbig for nothing,,,yes he has good physiqe nothing more than good ,,yes he can place top 3 in local bodybuilding cicty competition,,yes he been to enancers ,,NO he doesnt look impressive not even the arms,,shape is good for fitness modeling,,has no size nor thickness needed to anything over local and has to lie inorder to have any chance at modeling..and for the bank job you mail me about that soon he wont have since gh15 has decided as you know to ruin the economy in usa and that means uk is going down with it
end! stop pming gh15 about this nonsense
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gh15 asked you to stop mailin it about this nonesense,,yes the meso kid is on hormones on and off depending on what money he can afford to spend,,orals is favorite amongst africans due to fear of the needle then again any one else around bodybuilding is also on hormones,,stop with this nonesense he wouldnt be even 180lb at ^% any other way,,
yuo are talkin about it like the fella is some major competitor friends,dont waste my last few months on getbig for nothing,,,yes he has good physiqe nothing more than good ,,yes he can place top 3 in local bodybuilding cicty competition,,yes he been to enancers ,,NO he doesnt look impressive not even the arms,,shape is good for fitness modeling,,has no size nor thickness needed to anything over local and has to lie inorder to have any chance at modeling..and for the bank job you mail me about that soon he wont have since gh15 has decided as you know to ruin the economy in usa and that means uk is going down with it
end! stop pming gh15 about this nonsense
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Impressive arms and chest....
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gh15 asked you to stop mailin it about this nonesense,,yes the meso kid is on hormones on and off depending on what money he can afford to spend,,orals is favorite amongst africans due to fear of the needle then again any one else around bodybuilding is also on hormones,,stop with this nonesense he wouldnt be even 180lb at ^% any other way,,
yuo are talkin about it like the fella is some major competitor friends,dont waste my last few months on getbig for nothing,,,yes he has good physiqe nothing more than good ,,yes he can place top 3 in local bodybuilding cicty competition,,yes he been to enancers ,,NO he doesnt look impressive not even the arms,,shape is good for fitness modeling,,has no size nor thickness needed to anything over local and has to lie inorder to have any chance at modeling..and for the bank job you mail me about that soon he wont have since gh15 has decided as you know to ruin the economy in usa and that means uk is going down with it
end! stop pming gh15 about this nonsense
Hmm. gh is now seems as angry and petulant as Sevastase. ;)
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Impressive arms and chest....
thx man
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gh15 asked you to stop mailin it about this nonesense,,yes the meso kid is on hormones on and off depending on what money he can afford to spend,,orals is favorite amongst africans due to fear of the needle then again any one else around bodybuilding is also on hormones,,stop with this nonesense he wouldnt be even 180lb at ^% any other way,,
yuo are talkin about it like the fella is some major competitor friends,dont waste my last few months on getbig for nothing,,,yes he has good physiqe nothing more than good ,,yes he can place top 3 in local bodybuilding cicty competition,,yes he been to enancers ,,NO he doesnt look impressive not even the arms,,shape is good for fitness modeling,,has no size nor thickness needed to anything over local and has to lie inorder to have any chance at modeling..and for the bank job you mail me about that soon he wont have since gh15 has decided as you know to ruin the economy in usa and that means uk is going down with it
end! stop pming gh15 about this nonsense
Why are you convinced that he's on something? He said he's 205lbs. not 275lbs.
Stop hatin
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bangbros "jumped the shark" when they started doing Bait Bus
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Hmm. gh is now seems as angry and petulant as Sevastase. ;)
;D
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gh15 asked you to stop mailin it about this nonesense,,yes the meso kid is on hormones on and off depending on what money he can afford to spend,,orals is favorite amongst africans due to fear of the needle then again any one else around bodybuilding is also on hormones,,stop with this nonesense he wouldnt be even 180lb at ^% any other way,,
yuo are talkin about it like the fella is some major competitor friends,dont waste my last few months on getbig for nothing,,,yes he has good physiqe nothing more than good ,,yes he can place top 3 in local bodybuilding cicty competition,,yes he been to enancers ,,NO he doesnt look impressive not even the arms,,shape is good for fitness modeling,,has no size nor thickness needed to anything over local and has to lie inorder to have any chance at modeling..and for the bank job you mail me about that soon he wont have since gh15 has decided as you know to ruin the economy in usa and that means uk is going down with it
end! stop pming gh15 about this nonsense
lmao
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how do you know these guys are natural? 3x bw is EXTREMELY uncommon at ANY weight. I've been in many different hardcore bodybuilding and powerlifting gyms and have only seen one guy who can DL 3x bw, he does it with a competition suit on the wk before a meet. These guys are claiming they workout with it ??? I've HEARD of many, many guys who can but only saw one.
A friend of mine, Goss Destil (4th 2008 T.U. mw) walks around in the 190's and can pasue 455 and trains with 405lbs. He bench is heavier than his DL and squats. Many people are great at one but not both, exactly what you're pointing out with the guy with the DL and your coach with the bench.
My coach is extremly rare. Despite his monkey arms his bench is class
Also this guy at 59kg was drug tested.
Also 18year old kids in my gym. One deadlifts 3x bw the other one is close to it.
Ill stck by it 3x bw dead is not uncommon up to 82.5kg weight classes naturally...then it gets less common
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My coach is extremly rare. Despite his monkey arms his bench is class
Also this guy at 59kg was drug tested.
Also 18year old kids in my gym. One deadlifts 3x bw the other one is close to it.
Ill stck by it 3x bw dead is not uncommon up to 82.5kg weight classes naturally...then it gets less common
stop already with your fucking nonsense...
he passed the drug test ? no shit sherlock
a fucking blind/deaf musk rat could pass a drug test ....
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Its with the wdfpf.
Pretty strict.
They watch actual urine coming out of your dick and then it is sealed signed and sent awa by yourself amd the drug control officer.
Man the jealousy of you is only surpassed by your arrogance. Just because someone is stronger than you does not mean drugs.
Why then would he pass it yet others get caught and banned?
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Its with the wdfpf.
Pretty strict.
They watch actual urine coming out of your dick and then it is sealed signed and sent awa by yourself amd the drug control officer.
Man the jealousy of you is only surpassed by your arrogance. Just because someone is stronger than you does not mean drugs.
Why then would he pass it yet others get caught and banned?
stronger than me ?
fuckface : we already establishe d you are a weak bitch who bragged about benching 385 when in reality you bench nearly 50 lbs less hahahaha
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it was 375 and i done an relatively easy 341 preexhausted.
Also i am not talking about myself specifically but anyone in general
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it was 375 and i done an relatively easy 341 preexhausted.
Also i am not talking about myself specifically but anyone in general
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Keep him away from my girlfriends!
;)
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(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/liar.jpg)
why would i lie?
What seriously have i to gain?
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My coach is extremly rare. Despite his monkey arms his bench is class
Also this guy at 59kg was drug tested.
Also 18year old kids in my gym. One deadlifts 3x bw the other one is close to it.
Ill stck by it 3x bw dead is not uncommon up to 82.5kg weight classes naturally...then it gets less common
"my coach is extremely rear" ??? isn't that what i'm saying?? so why are you arguing me on that point. IT IS NOT COMMON.
Because a guy is tested doesn't mean he's clean. Over the last few months, there were several gold medals taken away from olympic athletes who passed the test at the time. U might not have any reason to lie for them but they might have reasons to lie to you, then you run with the lie which makes you look silly.
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(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/liar.jpg)
Keep that man away from my Hollywood script...
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Its with the wdfpf.
Pretty strict.
They watch actual urine coming out of your dick and then it is sealed signed and sent awa by yourself amd the drug control officer.
Man the jealousy of you is only surpassed by your arrogance. Just because someone is stronger than you does not mean drugs.
Why then would he pass it yet others get caught and banned?
Seva is just angry at his parents for giving him poor gypsy genetics that only sees him exceling in gathering chicken eggs from free range chooks and theiving from unsuspecting western tourists..
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"my coach is extremely rear" ??? isn't that what i'm saying?? so why are you arguing me on that point. IT IS NOT COMMON.
Because a guy is tested doesn't mean he's clean. Over the last few months, there were several gold medals taken away from olympic athletes who passed the test at the time. U might not have any reason to lie for them but they might have reasons to lie to you, then you run with the lie which makes you look silly.
what i was saying is rare is both a great bench and a great deadlift. Then again look at Lamar Gant
I will stand by my point in th elower weight classes 3x bw dead is not rare
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what i was saying is rare is both a great bench and a great deadlift. Then again look at Lamar Gant
I will stand by my point in th elower weight classes 3x bw dead is not rare
Kazmaier was one of the few SHW's to have a huge bench and pull, 661 bench and 887 deadlift, Jon Cole was good too 600 plus bench and 880's pull.
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exactly still def possible
Yet andy bolton...hug squat and dead though 'only' benches what 550-600lbs?
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Jealous clowns speculating over the internet in this thread.
If Meso were 220, then I'd suspect him, but he's 190ish. I've seen my fare share of black men at that weight with big muscle bellies, and they all can't be on the sauce. He's a kid with great genetics.
Obviously, Sevastese lives in Eastern Europe, a place where there aren't any black men. It's perfectly natural for him to jealous and spend hours over speculating some guy whom he's never met, or who's juicing stack does not impact his life in any way. ::)
Meso, bro, you've got nothing to prove. Just keep training hard. 8)
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Did you guys read the workout description ?
That's a workout worthy of Lee Priest maybe ...although he goes a little lighter these days
Just a question here.. How many black men have you known or interacted with through the course of your life? And no, I don't mean Africans, but Americans and West Indians.
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In Ireland where i live thereare also few black men.
Ones in my gym seem to fall into 2 groups.
Thin and small though very lean
Long muscle bellies and good shape.
There seems to be no middle ground.
However these are Nigerians and Ghanains. Look more like sprinters and warriors than a lot of other african antionalities.
One called Murray i around 6'6 with a booming voice. He is not huge muscularly by any means, but i would say around 210-20. Though his strength was very very good.
Sunday, is small and thin though very ripped. I mean super ripped
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The guy looks great! Has the ideal kind of full, round muscle bellies with deep separations.
Of course every guy that lacks this kind of genetics will have to say he sneaks the juice, just so they feel less inadequate hehehe.
Howard
We are fortunate to have amongst ourselves incredibly gifted people like meso78, who are life time natties and have 19 inch biceps ( he provided a photo with a measuring tape )
I for one am impressed beyond words and want to add that not only is he a natty benching 405 lbs, but also he contibues to grow and maintains a ripped physique by eating only 2 jamaican meals a day without paying attention to diet .
I envy you Mesomorph78, for being so genetically gifted, probably the most gifted ever on strength and size+ rippedness.
Here's the man himself : let's praise his lifetime natty accomplishments and not bash him .
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49492;image)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29547.0;attach=49493;image)
Here is the MAN himself describing his lifts in detail ...
" my shoulder press is
on dumbells 110's for 7 reps final set
incline presses... at my gym we dont have a proper freewight incline stand so i do smith and dumbelll week obviously dumbells...
most ive ever maxed with on incline dumbells was 150.. usual workouts i g up to 130's
on the smith i incline 315.. for 10 reps on a usual workout day.... max on a good day 352... this smith machine is easy.. well i think so like at jd dawudos gym when i train with my friend there...his smith is a lot harder... 315 for 7 on his.."
wow! that's all I gotta say : WOW!
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Jealous clowns speculating over the internet in this thread.
If Meso were 220, then I'd suspect him, but he's 190ish. I've seen my fare share of black men at that weight with big muscle bellies, and they all can't be on the sauce. He's a kid with great genetics.
Obviously, Sevastese lives in Eastern Europe, a place where there aren't any black men. It's perfectly natural for him to jealous and spend hours over speculating some guy whom he's never met, or who's juicing stack does not impact his life in any way. ::)
Meso, bro, you've got nothing to prove. Just keep training hard. 8)
thx man.... not worried about sev i just find his jealousy amusing...
hope your training is going well
mes
thx for the shout out as well howard
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with all due respect Meso,
how much of your results do you contribute to BGG?
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Just a question here.. How many black men have you known or interacted with through the course of your life? And no, I don't mean Africans, but Americans and West Indians.
:D
You gotta be shitting me
Besides living since 1996 till 2005 in US
I worked out and lived in Detroit area which is one of the darkest regions of America
I worked out @ the blackest Powerhouse there is,and was trained by a black pro :Ron Love
I dated black chicks, had many black friends, my 2 best buddies were as black as they come : Segun Maku ( former top squash pro ) and Conya Robinson ( former div I power forward )
Besides that ... I been bodybuilding since 91 and did my first show in 94 ...I know what genetics are since I have some decent ones
You don't because you are a beginner wannabe who thinks that if you keep on lifting you keep on improving.
sorry to break itto ya but it ain't like that !
woof mothafucker
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exactly still def possible
Yet andy bolton...hug squat and dead though 'only' benches what 550-600lbs?
actually i think Andy Bolton is one of around 20-25 guys who have benched 600 raw.
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ur prob right i dont know a lot about PLing.
Ill use ed coan then...monstrous squats and dead...very good bench lol
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with all due respect Meso,
how much of your results do you contribute to BGG?
WTF??? why do people keep writing BGG, Big Gay Genes...it's Big Black Genes BBG lol.
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WTF??? why do people keep writing BGG, Big Gay Genes...it's Big Black Genes BBG lol.
black guy genes seems more appropriate, imho
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:D
You gotta be shitting me
Besides living since 1996 till 2005 in US
I worked out and lived in Detroit area which is one of the darkest regions of America
I worked out @ the blackest Powerhouse there is,and was trained by a black pro :Ron Love
I dated black chicks, had many black friends, my 2 best buddies were as black as they come : Segun Maku ( former top squash pro ) and Conya Robinson ( former div I power forward )
Besides that ... I been bodybuilding since 91 and did my first show in 94 ...I know what genetics are since I have some decent ones
You don't because you are a beginner wannabe who thinks that if you keep on lifting you keep on improving.
sorry to break itto ya but it ain't like that !
woof mothafucker
So you're a negro lover.
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So you're a negro lover.
colorof the skin is absolutely irrelevant tome ...
maybe in your trailer park in rural Alabama it is....
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colorof the skin is absolutely irrelevant tome ...
maybe in your trailer park in rural Alabama it is....
::)
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So you're a negro lover.
pure class, as always ::)
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So you're a negro lover.
stupid :-\
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pure class, as always ::)
From the supposed straight guy that posed for a gay magazine for money..........
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with all due respect Meso,
how much of your results do you contribute to BGG?
whats bgg?
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black guy genes meso
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oh...
i think all races have good genes... blacks and white probably have a greater percentage though
well to that question i'd have to say all of it ... i hink for me its the shape of the muscle that makes the impact not necessarily the size
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This rubbish is still going on ???
Look Sev before you go start another thread claiming someone isnt natural just because they have better genes than you ...dont..
Meso has great genetics that why he looks like he does , not cos of gear cos he is well a mesomorph plain and simple..
I dont give to shits wat gh15 whispers in your ear whilst he is nailing you from behind because he is wrong..
He puts everyone into these catagories as though they are a clone..
Has he met every single person in the world that lifts? no , so how can he or you say what can be acheived before touching gear..you cant..
I hop between NZ and Australia..I see lots of maoris and islanders in my job,these guys have the mad genetics much like meso..
Some of these guys dont even lift weights and they look better than what you do , and you have dieted hard used gear etc etc..
The ones that do lift train in a way that leaves you scratching your head thinking how the fuk do they grow training like that ?
Diet is another area that alot dont even pay attention to, they may eat one meal a day or live off junk food but it still doesnt effect the way they look..
And steroids , give me a break , alot of these guys think protein powders are drugs so if you think they are geared up to the eyeballs then think again.
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This rubbish is still going on ???
Look Sev before you go start another thread claiming someone isnt natural just because they have better genes than you ...dont..
Meso has great genetics that why he looks like he does , not cos of gear cos he is well a mesomorph plain and simple..
I dont give to shits wat gh15 whispers in your ear whilst he is nailing you from behind because he is wrong..
He puts everyone into these catagories as though they are a clone..
Has he met every single person in the world that lifts? no , so how can he or you say what can be acheived before touching gear..you cant..
I hop between NZ and Australia..I see lots of maoris and islanders in my job,these guys have the mad genetics much like meso..
Some of these guys dont even lift weights and they look better than what you do , and you have dieted hard used gear etc etc..
The ones that do lift train in a way that leaves you scratching your head thinking how the fuk do they grow training like that ?
Diet is another area that alot dont even pay attention to, they may eat one meal a day or live off junk food but it still doesnt effect the way they look..
And steroids , give me a break , alot of these guys think protein powders are drugs so if you think they are geared up to the eyeballs then think again.
wow ..
1 page long meltdoown !
you really don't know shit ..I am actually convinced now.... :-\
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wow ..
1 page long meltdoown !
you really don't know shit ..I am actually convinced now.... :-\
You think thats a meltdown hahahahahaha its trying to teach you somthing my third world friend..if you want to discuss meltdowns how about the idiot running around starting threads cos they are jealous that someone looks better than them even while that simpleton has used gear,.
You cant argue it ,..
Maybe you should log off getbig and go out into the real world and meet some real people..all I say to you is fact and the point you cant give an opposing argument to this prooves you are very quite simple.
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colorof the skin is absolutely irrelevant tome ...
maybe in your trailer park in rural Alabama it is....
One of these rare times we agree....
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In fairness sevastase lives in teh second world, no the third world