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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272)
Thoughts and prayers going out to any getbiggers that "just happened to be in there". Probably looking for somewhere to buy cigarettes or asking for directions.
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I believe Shizzo lives in that part of the state. Undoubtedly, he'd be there, looking for dick.
PIP Shizzo.
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I believe Shizzo lives in that part of the state. Undoubtedly, he'd be there, looking for dick.
PIP Shizzo.
I've got faith in him. He did rise from the grave like JC after his fatal car crash.
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That's terrible.
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Now confirmed Islamic extremist. Curious to see how progressives spin this.
Oh, and Trump just won the election.
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Now confirmed Islamic extremist. Curious to see how progressives spin this.
Oh, and Trump just won the election.
Confirmed where?
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Confirmed where?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html
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I believe Shizzo lives in that part of the state. Undoubtedly, he'd be there, looking for dick.
PIP Shizzo.
He'll be fine, people don't tend to aim below the waist.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html
An article saying 'Islamic radical leanings' isn't the same as an opinion derived at through some kind of investigation.
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An article saying 'Islamic radical leanings' isn't the same as an opinion derived at through some kind of investigation.
I know that this will get some eye-rolls, but I have connections in Florida law enforcement and the FBI is already treating this as Islamic terrorism. So, suck it up.
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I know that this will get some eye-rolls, but I have connections in Florida law enforcement and the FBI is already treating this as Islamic terrorism. So, suck it up.
Some eye rolls?
You just made a Vince G-esque and only expect some eye rolls?
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Some eye rolls?
You just made a Vince G-esque and only expect some eye rolls?
Haha, I was eye-rolling when I wrote it!
:D ::) ::)
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aj...you are full of shit
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aj...you are full of shit
And you are who, exactly?
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And that doesn't alter the fact that a good friend of mine is a former NYPD and is now a radio personality in southern FL. I communicated with him this AM and he's confirmed through his FBI sources. By the way, this is pretty much out there now.
And yes, that whole paragraph above sounds like Goodrum, I will admit.
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They will find a way to blame it once again on muhammed.....
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They will find a way to blame it once again on muhammed.....
Haha, fucking idiot. It's SUCH a stretch to blame this on Islam when the shooters are singing Allah ackbah while they gleefully kill homos.
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The gays refuse to believe the Muslims hate them more so than Christians . If this does end up being the case, im thinking trump may have gotten himself more votes.
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The gays refuse to believe the Muslims hate them more so than Christians . If this does end up being the case, im thinking trump may have gotten himself more votes.
If the perp ends up being one of obama's unscreened "refugees", Trump just won the election.
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Why is AJ so angry all the time?
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The gays refuse to believe the Muslims hate them more so than Christians . If this does end up being the case, im thinking trump may have gotten himself more votes.
I'm still stuck on the idea that people could call themselves Christians and hate others.
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Most likely the shooter was a hetero man.
But the islam fad is already turning its tie back to america vs russia in the big scale of things. Back to business party coming up.
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I'm still stuck on the idea that people could call themselves Christians and hate others.
But your not similarly vexed about the the hate in Islam? Because Christian "hate" leads to tearful prayer. Islamic "hate" leads to bullets and bodybags.
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oh dear. wasn't a famous singer also randomly shot dead in florida a couple days ago?
how many more of these events are needed for the penny to drop? guns and society DO NOT MIX
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oh dear. wasn't a famous singer also randomly shot dead in florida a couple days ago?
how many more of these events are needed for the penny to drop? guns and society DO NOT MIX
If there are no guns, there would be more knifings. People would definitely do something else. Bann kitchen knifes? Nerf the world?
It's a proven fact that people who do gun crimes are ex felons, violent background, early release, programs, knowing they will most likely do the crime again. Facts. Keep the ball spinning.
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oh dear. wasn't a famous singer also randomly shot dead in florida a couple days ago?
how many more of these events are needed for the penny to drop? guns and society DO NOT MIX
Worked well in fully gun controlled Paris, huh? Go back to Reddit and peddle your liberal talking points. Not happening here, shitlicker.
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But your not similarly vexed about the the hate in Islam? Because Christian "hate" leads to tearful prayer. Islamic "hate" leads to bullets and bodybags.
I view all fundamentalists with the same jaundiced eye and feel they are the greatest threat to our individual freedoms.
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I view all fundamentalists with the same jaundiced eye and feel they are the greatest threat to our individual freedoms.
But I hope that you don't view them equally, because that would be an act of incredible cowardice of moral equivalence.
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Worked well in fully gun controlled Paris, huh? Go back to Reddit and peddle your liberal talking points. Not happening here, shitlicker.
yeh because mass shootings happen all the time in france don't they (?) you yanks love to bury your heads in the sand and live in denial.
and you, typical pencil neck fag are the problem. surrounding yourself with guns just to try and make your b@tchass feel safe.
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yeh because mass shootings happen all the time in france don't they (?) you yanks love to bury your heads in the sand and live in denial.
and you, typical pencil neck fag are the problem. surrounding yourself with guns just to try an make your b@tchass feel safe.
Haha! The little euro barks too. So cute.
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LMAO, exactly. As I said in the previous page, if there are no guns people would just knife or machete or thump fuck people to death and that guy there is one of those people.
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Probably felt deep shame over his secret desire to go to this club and penis puff and took his rage out on the subjects of his masturbation. RIP Handsome young men.
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50+ dead
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I view all fundamentalists with the same jaundiced eye and feel they are the greatest threat to our individual freedoms.
As a friend once said, a fundamentalist Christian will die for their beliefs while a fundamentalist Muslim will kill for theirs.
Islam is to submit, Christianity is to choose. I will never force you to wear the same shoes as I nor any shoes for that matter. What I think upsets most people is that I refuse to call that which I hold wrong somehow made right because someone tells me to. How different is that from the views of say, an atheist?
A prime example of an artificial christian is Wiggs and his DEF2YT approach. I have read the Word and its not my job to convince you of anything nor do I relish the thought that someone may well spend eternity in damnation but as I have always maintained the only people that know what awaits us are the dead and they're not talking.
Wiggs and his ilk sure are. Same with smellivangelists, nation of I-slime (aka: Friends of Wiggs), fundie moozies and the like. If Jesus did and said what the profit mohammed clearly did and said, there is no way I would make even a faint effort to follow him. Same with Wiggs' fundeMENTAL belief in the color of skin being what matters. Evil BS.
You choose. I have and all I ask is that as I will not force my faith upon you, neither should you force yours or the lack thereof upon me. If that makes you not want to be friends, fine. If you do, fine. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
As to this incident in Florida, I suspect the libtard media will do all they can to downplay their moozie masters and their pedo-profit and look to lay the blame elsewhere and by that I mean upon Trump.
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This guy stopped the shooter
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What's it going to take to wake people up? 50 people are dead today, we don't have a gun problem, we have a Muslim problem.
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I believe Shizzo lives in that part of the state. Undoubtedly, he'd be there, looking for dick.
PIP Shizzo.
Shizzo lives in S. FL. BMC lives near Orlando.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272)
Thoughts and prayers going out to any getbiggers that "just happened to be in there". Probably looking for somewhere to buy cigarettes or asking for directions.
A gun attack? So a gun just got up, got dressed, put it's boots on, took a cab over to the gay club and started shooting people? All by itself?
Why is AJ so angry all the time?
Here goes that liberal "why are you so angry" tactic. Again and again and again. Someone please explain to me why they feel like this is a winning arguement. What does this tactic do for you? They must think it does something because of how often it gets repeated.
What's it going to take to wake people up? 50 people are dead today, we don't have a gun problem, we have a Muslim problem.
Exactly. They have declared war on Americans and liberals are still more interested in demonizing Christians and white males.
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terrorism is not something to be politicized
hope this helps
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50 dead so far.
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terrorism is not something to be politicized
hope this helps
Terrorism should be politicized more than stuff like abortion. It is a specifically political act you moron.
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terrorism is not something to be politicized
hope this helps
Identifying the root cause of a problem isn't politicizing it. It's simply trying to solve the problem.
This is especially important right now because a large group of people are seeing the world as they would like it to be rather than how it is.
hope this helps.
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terrorism is not something to be politicized
hope this helps
How these scum are dealt with most definitely is worth being brought up by candidates. Terrorists need to be taken down. Supporters too because by their action or inaction (e.g., monetary support or not turning the scum in when they know their plans) need to be dealt with too.
In your estimation, what is "worthy" of being politicized? Allow men to the women's restroom? I doubt that but I could be wrong. If only the libtards would see terrorists as "bullies" they might do something other than wring their hands.
If ever they could stop giving said terrorists a reach-around.
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A gun attack? So a gun just got up, got dressed, put it's boots on, took a cab over to the gay club and started shooting people? All by itself?
Here goes that liberal "why are you so angry" tactic. Again and again and again. Someone please explain to me why they feel like this is a winning arguement. What does this tactic do for you? They must think it does something because of how often it gets repeated.
Exactly. They have declared war on Americans and liberals are still more interested in demonizing Christians and white males.
Hi AJ.
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Identifying the root cause of a problem isn't politicizing it. It's simply trying to solve the problem.
This is especially important right now because a large group of people are seeing the world as they would like it to be rather than how it is.
hope this helps.
oh wow hard hitting analysis
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oh wow hard hitting analysis
How's that mohammedian reach-around working out for you, ace?
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How these scum are dealt with most definitely is worth being brought up by candidates. Terrorists need to be taken down. Supporters too because by their action or inaction (e.g., monetary support or not turning the scum in when they know their plans) need to be dealt with too.
In your estimation, what is "worthy" of being politicized? Allow men to the women's restroom? I doubt that but I could be wrong. If only the libtards would see terrorists as "bullies" they might do something other than wring their hands.
If ever they could stop giving said terrorists a reach-around.
This is not the best moment to advance your agenda like a teenage boy cumming for the first time.
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This is not the best moment to advance your agenda like a teenage boy cumming for the first time.
So you gots nuffin', eh? Thought so. It's like when a Hillary supporter shouts out about how much Hillary has done for the country and when asked to name something they too, gots nuffin'.
The mohammedian reach-around must be your drug of choice, kid.
Typist.
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So you gots nuffin', eh? Thought so. It's like when a Hillary supporter shouts out about how much Hillary has done for the country and when asked to name something they too, gots nuffin'.
The mohammedian reach-around must be your drug of choice, kid.
Typist.
highly disgusted with the trump crew response to these events
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This is not the best moment to advance your agenda like a teenage boy cumming for the first time.
I don't think you realize it, but your mockery and bullshit isn't getting you anywhere. All it does is draw attention to your dishonesty and lack of insight.
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it's an act of terror. horrible. hope the shooter burns. is he dead, or captured?
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highly disgusted with the trump crew response to these events
A moral manlet if ever there were one. Typist.
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it's an act of terror. horrible. hope the shooter burns. is he dead, or captured?
This guy stopped him dead-in-his-tracks
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I don't think you realize it, but your mockery and bullshit isn't getting you anywhere. All it does is draw attention to your dishonesty and lack of insight.
I'm happy to discuss root causes if you want but it's not consistent with the festive tone so don't want to derail things.
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it's an act of terror. horrible. hope the shooter burns. is he dead, or captured?
SWAT stormed in and killed him.
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I'm happy to discuss root causes if you want but it's not consistent with the festive tone so don't want to derail the things.
Muslim terrorist sympathizer and a typist.
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This guy stopped him dead-in-his-tracks
Even if you have a permit, you cannot carry in clubs in FL. And security is almost always unarmed. It really is a soft target. Anytime you have hundreds of people in a loud, packed area, there should be more police/security.
This is a horrible thing. We had a shooter one week ago in SW FLorida. Dude shot someone on a motorcycle, 2 in a gas station, then was taken down by police + his woman and 1 year old baby were injured by police bullets. Horrible shit like this just pops off and I don't know what the answer is. I'd love to live in a society where we fight with bamboo sticks, but guns are out of the toothpaste tube and there's no getting them back in now. I'd love to live in a country where nukes never existed, but we cannot go backwards once the bad guys have weapons.
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As a friend once said, a fundamentalist Christian will die for their beliefs while a fundamentalist Muslim will kill for theirs.
Islam is to submit, Christianity is to choose. I will never force you to wear the same shoes as I nor any shoes for that matter. What I think upsets most people is that I refuse to call that which I hold wrong somehow made right because someone tells me to. How different is that from the views of say, an atheist?
A prime example of an artificial christian is Wiggs and his DEF2YT approach. I have read the Word and its not my job to convince you of anything nor do I relish the thought that someone may well spend eternity in damnation but as I have always maintained the only people that know what awaits us are the dead and they're not talking.
Wiggs and his ilk sure are. Same with smellivangelists, nation of I-slime (aka: Friends of Wiggs), fundie moozies and the like. If Jesus did and said what the profit mohammed clearly did and said, there is no way I would make even a faint effort to follow him. Same with Wiggs' fundeMENTAL belief in the color of skin being what matters. Evil BS.
You choose. I have and all I ask is that as I will not force my faith upon you, neither should you force yours or the lack thereof upon me. If that makes you not want to be friends, fine. If you do, fine. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
As to this incident in Florida, I suspect the libtard media will do all they can to downplay their moozie masters and their pedo-profit and look to lay the blame elsewhere and by that I mean upon Trump.
Commitment to the cause, regardless of personal discomfort, is the only thing that separates our home-grown fundamentalists from the foreign-born variety. Also, the political process is still a useable tool to advance their agendas.
American Fundamentalists would do far worse if there were no consequences or a way for it to happen without affecting personal comfort.
No matter how you slice it, that crazy guy's actions were consistent with core fundamentalist values.
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Oh, and Trump just won the election.
People said that after Paris attacks. People have short memories. I'm not sure this will help him.
What this will do is give obama 6 months to feed us executive orders/legislation that he wants - maybe new hate crime bills, maybe new gun control BS.
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People said that after Paris attacks. People have short memories. I'm not sure this will help him
Yep, the media is already trying to focus on it being an anti-gay attack/demonic ar-15 issue
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What we know so far
America's worst-ever mass shooting begun at 2am in Orlando.
Omar Mateen, 29, who made a pledge of allegiance to Isil, was heavily armed.
He opened fire then went outside, shot at police, and returned inside to take 30 hostage.
50 people were killed inside Pulse nightclub, a gay venue.
Police ended the siege around 5am, using an armoured vehicle to storm the building.
Mateen's father, born in Afghanistan, says his son was angered at seeing two men kissing.
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if everyone in that club was carrying a gun, The death toll would have been far far far lower.
It baffles me when the government wants to deny people access to the most effective self defense weapon in the history of the world. A hand gun.
And to those disgusting regressive retarded liberals in this thread making false comparisons between religions to make an excuse for islamic terrorists ... I hope you get shot by one of these zealots you so defiantly defend. You are the reason 50 innocent people are dead right now... you and the "leaders" that think like you who wont see the world for what it is and take appropriate action.
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Muslim terrorist sympathizer and a typist.
I'm not the one celebrating son.
Sadly, you seem indifferent to the death and suffering of others when it advances your ideological schema.
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Yep, the media is already trying to focus on it being an anti-gay attack/demonic ar-15 issue
I'm all ears for the solution. We'll have a whole lot of "ban this religion" but how is that implemented? And if we can end 1 religion because 50 dead in shooting, do we end others when terror acts happen in their name? (McVeigh, etc)
I don't see a solution, aside from 'arm everyone', add metal detectors to enter clubs, and just be vigilant.
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I'm all ears for the solution. We'll have a whole lot of "ban this religion" but how is that implemented? And if we can end 1 religion because 50 dead in shooting, do we end others when terror acts happen in their name? (McVeigh, etc)
I don't see a solution, aside from 'arm everyone', add metal detectors to enter clubs, and just be vigilant.
Mcveigh WAS NOT religiously motivated at all.
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I'm all ears for the solution. We'll have a whole lot of "ban this religion" but how is that implemented? And if we can end 1 religion because 50 dead in shooting, do we end others when terror acts happen in their name? (McVeigh, etc)
I don't see a solution, aside from 'arm everyone', add metal detectors to enter clubs, and just be vigilant.
I agree.
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:)
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Religion of peace strikes again.
Getting seriously tired of the fucking untermensch killing people left and right
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Mcveigh WAS NOT religiously motivated at all.
I'm sure you're right - BUT at what point do we start slicing up attack as "well this dude had this religion, but it had nothing to do with the attack..." ya know? What about the religious people that blow up abortion clinics? those are definitely religion based.
The point is, if we start banning religions by law, it won't be long until ours is banned too, if we have one.
I'm not defending muslims or anything else. I'm saying if they ban islam in 2016, they'll find a way to ban my religion in 2017. It's just how the nation works. Once you put it on paper, mine is next. I think we all know that.
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I'm sure you're right - BUT at what point do we start slicing up attack as "well this dude had this religion, but it had nothing to do with the attack..." ya know? What about the religious people that blow up abortion clinics? those are definitely religion based.
The point is, if we start banning religions by law, it won't be long until ours is banned too, if we have one.
I'm not defending muslims or anything else. I'm saying if they ban islam in 2016, they'll find a way to ban my religion in 2017. It's just how the nation works. Once you put it on paper, mine is next. I think we all know that.
I would be fine with getting rid of all religion, but it would need to happen naturally. All religions are shit and are for morons and nothing else.
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I would be fine with getting rid of all religion, but it would need to happen naturally. All religions are shit and are for morons and nothing else.
This.
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why is he "praying"? lol pandering to religious sheep for votes. nothing changes
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why is he "praying"? lol pandering to religious sheep for votes. nothing changes
Trump knows his base. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Trump's gonna Trump!
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Hillary would DEFINITELY ban firearms any way she could if this happened on her watch.
People are going to regret their vote for her if she makes it in office.
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Trump: "Ban Muslims!"
Hillary: "Ban guns!"
Beck: "God hates fags!"
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the muslim menace strikes again
but of course, it's the gun's fault
always the gun's fault
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Religion of peace strikes again.
Getting seriously tired of the fucking untermensch killing people left and right
Nothing you can do. Moo slums are embedded like an Alabama tick and only eradication can dislodge them. Good luck finding a cure.
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The cure is calling their shitty religion out at every step of the way and ridiculing them until they realize how stupid and worthless they are. The same tactic works with all religions.
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Didn't take long for Dem Gereldine Thompson to exploit another tragedy to turn this into a gun issue.
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The cure is calling their shitty religion out at every step of the way and ridiculing them until they realize how stupid and worthless they are. The same tactic works with all religions.
Wrong.
If you don't know by now that the Muzzies are on the march, you are fuc ked. They believe that they are taking over the world, and unless we stop them they will.
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The cure is calling their shitty religion out at every step of the way and ridiculing them until they realize how stupid and worthless they are. The same tactic works with all religions.
how did you lump together ALL peaceful religions with this one?
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I'm sure you're right - BUT at what point do we start slicing up attack as "well this dude had this religion, but it had nothing to do with the attack..." ya know? What about the religious people that blow up abortion clinics? those are definitely religion based.
The point is, if we start banning religions by law, it won't be long until ours is banned too, if we have one.
I'm not defending muslims or anything else. I'm saying if they ban islam in 2016, they'll find a way to ban my religion in 2017. It's just how the nation works. Once you put it on paper, mine is next. I think we all know that.
And no one will pay attention to this.
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how did you lump together ALL peaceful religions with this one?
All provide nothing and if someone needs it to be a good person, they are not a good person.
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And no one will pay attention to this.
truth. People have tried to ban religions in the past, doesn't work.
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All provide nothing and if someone needs it to be a good person, they are not a good person.
lol How can you say religion does provide people happiness? A lot of people are happy practicing their religion.
A lot of people need something to be a "good person" hence why we have laws and rules. ::)
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I'm sure you're right - BUT at what point do we start slicing up attack as "well this dude had this religion, but it had nothing to do with the attack..." ya know? What about the religious people that blow up abortion clinics? those are definitely religion based.
The point is, if we start banning religions by law, it won't be long until ours is banned too, if we have one.
I'm not defending muslims or anything else. I'm saying if they ban islam in 2016, they'll find a way to ban my religion in 2017. It's just how the nation works. Once you put it on paper, mine is next. I think we all know that.
It would be politically inconvenient to suggest people consider the victims and their families.
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Wrong.
If you don't know by now that the Muzzies are on the march, you are fucked. They believe that they are taking over the world, and unless we stop them they will.
Correct. People don't want to here it but it's the truth.
Also, just because not every single Muslim isn't a part of the the movement doesn't mean that a huge number of them have literally declared war on us. They are doing everything they can to take over the west and kill as many of us as they can. They do it as both a coordinated organized group and as lone wolf types that want to help the cause. We have to hammer these m0therfuckers until they give up. Now is the time. We have to be prepared to fight to the last man. 5 or 10 years from now it will be too late.
Either that or get out your prayer rug.
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The gays refuse to believe the Muslims hate them more so than Christians . If this does end up being the case, im thinking trump may have gotten himself more votes.
I'm pretty sure that gay people are well aware that Muslims hate them and of course there is still plenty of hate to go around
Prominent christian leaders like to remind everyone that their God likes to do random acts of violence like Hurricanes and Tornado's when he/it gets mad about gay people. So christians don't need to get their hands dirty. They just wait for another natural disaster and then claim their God did this in retribution for the existence of gay people
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Didn't take long for Dem Gereldine Thompson to exploit another tragedy to turn this into a gun issue.
103 "SHOT" 50 killed....and perhaps it isn't a gun issue.
LMFAO!
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Correct. People don't want to here it but it's the truth.
Also, just because not every single Muslim isn't a part of the the movement doesn't mean that a huge number of them have literally declared war on us. They are doing everything they can to take over the west and kill as many of us as they can. They do it as both a coordinated organized group and as lone wolf types that want to help the cause. We have to hammer these m0therfuckers until they give up. Now is the time. We have to be prepared to fight to the last man. 5 or 10 years from now it will be too late.
Either that or get out your prayer rug.
"not every single Muslim is a part of the movement" That's right but you know as the tide rises they are going to jump right on board. There will be no defectors.
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If an armed person were nearby, and he shot the guy and prevented him from gaining ground, you'd have to dig pretty deep to find mention of it, anywhere. It might look a footnote in the local paper, all due to a different outcome.
So let's not pretend this incident displays the whole of reality on guns. That is ridiculous.
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Hillary would DEFINITELY ban firearms any way she could if this happened on her watch.
People are going to regret their vote for her if she makes it in office.
yeah I remember everyone saying Obama would do that too
how exactly would a POTUS legally be able to ban firearms?
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103 "SHOT" 50 killed....and perhaps it isn't a gun issue.
LMFAO!
A gun ended his life , guns are tools nothing more nothing less.
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If an armed person were nearby, and he shot the guy and prevented him from gaining ground, you'd have to dig pretty deep to find mention of it, anywhere. It might look a footnote in the local paper, all due to a different outcome.
So let's not pretend this incident displays the whole of reality on guns. That is ridiculous.
wasn't there a armed off duty cop on site at the time this happened
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The anti-gun movement is one of the stupidest fucking things I've seen in my life. If it weren't for the creepshow media, it would have been laughed out of the country by now.
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wasn't there a armed off duty cop on site at the time this happened
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wasn't there a armed off duty cop on site at the time this happened
Probably getting a BJ in the can
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I'm pretty sure that gay people are well aware that Muslims hate them and of course there is still plenty of hate to go around
Prominent christian leaders like to remind everyone that their God likes to do random acts of violence like Hurricanes and Tornado's when he/it gets mad about gay people. So christians don't need to get their hands dirty. They just wait for another natural disaster and then claim their God did this in retribution for the existence of gay people
So what's your point? Christians are just as bad for saying crazy mean things as Muslims who actually carry out physical mass murder?
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So what's your point? Christians are just as bad for saying crazy mean things as Muslims who actually carry out physical mass murder?
my point is exactly what I said
Gay people are well aware the fundie Muslims and fundie Christians hate them and probably fundie Jews and any other religion that has that kind of mindset
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yeah I remember everyone saying Obama would do that too
how exactly would a POTUS government legally be able to ban firearms?
idk how about..
1.) ban bullets.
2.) tax the fuck out of them, so they are too expensive for normal people
3.) limits on clip capacity
4.) strict classes to own a gun, that hard hard to pass, and must be repeated yearly
5.) how it hard for companies to sell guns
etc
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This guy gets it
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Right before the Gay Day bullshit all over the country. They'll use this one well, I'm sure.
Maybe they can tone down the filth they put on parade (literally) in the city streets, and they may get somewhere with "the movement".
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my point is exactly what I said
Gay people are well aware the fundie Muslims and fundie Christians hate them and probably fundie Jews and any other religion that has that kind of mindset
except jewish people and christians don't regularly commit mass murder to get into heaven.
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idk how about..
1.) ban bullets.
2.) tax the fuck out of them, so they are too expensive for normal people
3.) limits on clip capacity
4.) strict classes to own a gun, that hard hard to pass, and must be repeated yearly
5.) how it hard for companies to sell guns
etc
the POTUS can do all that?
Why hasn't Obama done that yet
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except jewish people and christians don't regularly commit mass murder to get into heaven.
not regularly, that is true but they share the same mindset
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my point is exactly what I said
Gay people are well aware the fundie Muslims and fundie Christians hate them and probably fundie Jews and any other religion that has that kind of mindset
Fair enough. My point is they focus their ire on the wrong group, and not where the current, real danger is out of those three religions you listed. I'd bet there still won't be as much outrage from them over this as there was over a bakery not wanting to make them a fucking cake.
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A gun ended his life , guns are tools nothing more nothing less.
yes it's a tool that can cause devastating carnage as witnessed by this event. No other tool readily available in your society comes close to being able to cause such carnage.
a hand grenade is also a tool....should these also be legal to possess too? You don't need guns in society, the negatives of gun ownership have massively outweighed any positives. i think the rational people in your country know the time has long come to get rid of them.
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the shooter:
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_480w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/06/12/Interactivity/Images/cropOrlandoAllegedGunman2A1465750030.jpg)
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yes it's a tool that can cause devastating carnage as witnessed by this event. No other tool readily available in your society comes close to being able to cause such carnage.
a hand grenade is also a tool....should these also be legal to possess too? You don't need guns in society, the negatives of gun ownership have massively outweighed any positives. i think the rational people in your country know the time has long come to get rid of them.
You need a gun if you live 30 minutes away from law enforcement and someone is breaking into your house. What are you supposed to do then?
You seem to forget the MAJORITY of the United States is rural and law enforcement CANNOT respond fast enough to meet the needs of its citizens.
Seriously, what is your answer to this?
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the shooter:
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_480w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/06/12/Interactivity/Images/cropOrlandoAllegedGunman2A1465750030.jpg)
sick fuck, religious delusional ass hat.
the video above, the guy is spot on. the reason though that all the trendies and media are raises the gun control non sense again is because if they really started publicly condemning islam, then next its gonna be christianity, and they all deep down know it. thats why its always focused rhtetoric on guns
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yes it's a tool that can cause devastating carnage as witnessed by this event. No other tool readily available in your society comes close to being able to cause such carnage.
a hand grenade is also a tool....should these also be legal to possess too? You don't need guns in society, the negatives of gun ownership have massively outweighed any positives. i think the rational people in your country know the time has long come to get rid of them.
Why don't you tell me all about the gun violence in a state like liberal Vermont, that has the highest gun ownership in the US and the fact that it has less gun violence than Canada even and is safer to live than any place in Canada.
Why do you think that is the case?
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Fair enough. My point is they focus their ire on the wrong group, and not where the current, real danger is out of those three religions you listed. I'd bet there still won't be as much outrage from them over this as there was over a bakery not wanting to make them a fucking cake.
I'll bet you're wrong about that
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You don't need guns in society
Some great Famous Last Words there, Conker. Way to go.
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yes it's a tool that can cause devastating carnage as witnessed by this event. No other tool readily available in your society comes close to being able to cause such carnage.
a hand grenade is also a tool....should these also be legal to possess too? You don't need guns in society, the negatives of gun ownership have massively outweighed any positives. i think the rational people in your country know the time has long come to get rid of them.
yes it's a tool that can cause devastating carnage as witnessed by this event. No other tool readily available in your society comes close to being able to cause such carnage.
Not accurate
a hand grenade is also a tool....should these also be legal to possess too? You don't need guns in society, the negatives of gun ownership have massively outweighed any positives. i think the rational people in your country know the time has long come to get rid of them.
Strawman and guns are in society , confiscation leads to more gun violence , your " solution " to ending gun violence is more gun violence , makes a ton of sense in your head I'm sure :D Keep working on that " solution " come back when you're ready to talk with the adults
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I'll bet you're wrong about that
They'll do whatever they're led to do. It's that simple.
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Not accurate
Strawman and guns are in society , confiscation leads to more gun violence , your " solution " to ending gun violence is more gun violence , makes a ton of sense in your head I'm sure :D Keep working on that " solution " come back when you're ready to talk with the adults
is this directed at me?
When did I offer any solution to this shit ?
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Why don't you tell me all about the gun violence in a state like liberal Vermont, that has the highest gun ownership in the US and the fact that it has less gun violence than Canada even and is safer to live than any place in Canada.
Why do you think that is the case?
hhmmmm may have to fact check this post! :D
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yes it's a tool that can cause devastating carnage as witnessed by this event. No other tool readily available in your society comes close to being able to cause such carnage.
a hand grenade is also a tool....should these also be legal to possess too? You don't need guns in society, the negatives of gun ownership have massively outweighed any positives. i think the rational people in your country know the time has long come to get rid of them.
Are you going to wave your magic Liberal wand and "poof" all guns will be gone world wide?
The only people you brain dead Libs will be disarming will be the law abiding citizens. You will purposely be making the good people of society easier targets for the criminals, because it fits your idiotic version of some Utopian society
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They'll do whatever they're led to do. It's that simple.
I have no explanation for how anyone can believe any religious bullshit
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hhmmmm may have to fact check this post! :D
Sure thing cupcake:
https://mises.org/blog/few-gun-laws-new-hampshire-safer-canada
With Few Gun Laws, New Hampshire Is Safer Than Canada
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in before chaos starts up with the ::)
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For example, New Hampshire, Vermont, Idaho, and Oregon, all of which have among the lowest homicide rates in North America, get Brady Campaign scores of D-, F, F, and D+, respectively.
(hmmm could it be due to having large populations of law abiding white people?) ;)
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Like I said, the anti-gun movement is pure stupidity and it cannot stand against reason. The twinkletoe media is what keeps it alive, and we need to fix that problem -- badly. We must fix this landfill known as "media" as the very first priority, or we are guaranteed to fall.
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President about to speak. Pretty sure "Islamic" and "extremist" will be the first two sounds out his wordhole.
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I have no explanation for how anyone can believe any religious bullshit
The whole LGTBF (or whatever the fuck it is) has become a religion of sorts. Truly a stupid one, too.
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Everybody wants to be a sensation.
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Just watched a quick clip from MSNBC where they said the guy called 911 and swore allegiance to ISIS right before the attack.
Can't confirm, but that's what they said.
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Just watched a quick clip from MSNBC where they said the guy called 911 and swore allegiance to ISIS right before the attack.
Can't confirm, but that's what they said.
So he calls 911 to notify them he's going to kill people, or what?
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Just watched a quick clip from MSNBC where they said the guy called 911 and swore allegiance to ISIS right before the attack.
Can't confirm, but that's what they said.
Yeah, that's the claim. Just found.
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People don't wait for Obama to speak on this, they wait for Trump to fix the problem.
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I would be fine with getting rid of all religion, but it would need to happen naturally. All religions are shit and are for morons and nothing else.
I'm not defending muslims in any way. I'm not defending the shooter. I'm just saying I know our govt. The moment they close mosques, there will be a lot of lawsuits, and then they'll close churches too.
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The only positive to this whole thing is that liberals are now forced to look at Islam with a difference lens now that gays are being targeted specifically.
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I'll bet you're wrong about that
I hope I am, but I know I won't be. It'll still be politically incorrect to call out Islam. The term Islamaphobia ensures this.
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What good is Islam anyways? What has it done for anyone lately? What is the benefit?
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My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the homos who were killed, that God will give them comfort and strength through these difficult times.
My thoughts and prayers are with the homos who were injured too, that they'll have a speedy and full recovery of.
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For example, New Hampshire, Vermont, Idaho, and Oregon, all of which have among the lowest homicide rates in North America, get Brady Campaign scores of D-, F, F, and D+, respectively.
(hmmm could it be due to having large populations of law abiding white people?) ;)
A lot of that is population density. Spread out the chicago residents into farms in oregon and snowy vermont, a lot less capping of each other takes place.
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Man arrrested en route to LA gay pride event with 'weapons, explosives'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/florida-gay-nightclub-shooting-injuries-reported-at-pulse-orland/
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I'm reading like 4 muslims on twitter celebrating the shooting and praying so that Allah receives and rewards the shooter in heaven.
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No, I do believe TA is right. Civilized people with good intentions, have no reason to shoot one another.
So for the pieces of shit who do everything in their power to make those people the extreme minority, you deserve to be stopped cold.
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Truth!
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Coach,
Do you think we should ban islam/mosques in the USA because some of their followers are doing these horrible crimes?
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What good is Islam anyways? What has it done for anyone lately? What is the benefit?
I sure don't practice that religion or care a bit about it - BUT I know that the moment we ban parts of ANY religion in the USA, then people will sue and we'll have to ban ALL religions with violent connections. Every time someone blows up an abortion clinic (eye for an eye, saving lives, etc), the govt will shut down churches that match the shooter.
I don't have an answer, and it won't affect me if Prez Trump shuts down mosques. But a dem congress and dem governors will use that to shut down churches. I'm not sure people realize that. It won't just be the brown people losing their worship places.
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Man arrrested en route to LA gay pride event with 'weapons, explosives'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/florida-gay-nightclub-shooting-injuries-reported-at-pulse-orland/
He also was in possession of a fake security pass to "work" the LA Pride event today.
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• Gunman, who once 'pledged allegiance to Isil,' confirmed dead
Now, one solution may be "if you ever have pledged allegiance to ANY terrorist group, your ass gets booted from America."
That might solve a lot of this. I mean, this is a terror attack on US soil. If this jerk is writing shit like that, and we already see it... well, there was plenty of reason to deport his ass already.
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A lot of that is population density. Spread out the chicago residents into farms in oregon and snowy vermont, a lot less capping of each other takes place.
No, look at densely populated white cities like Portland, Oregon. No problems there. There is more to it than density.
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Coach,
Do you think we should ban islam/mosques in the USA because some of their followers are doing these horrible crimes?
Impossible, and not in line with the American founding principle of religious freedom.
However, that doesn't mean that nothing can be done to curtail Muslim terror in the USA.
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Impossible, and not in line with the American founding principle of religious freedom.
However, that doesn't mean that nothing can be done to curtail Muslim terror in the USA.
I read in the .uk article that the shooter had previously pledged allegiance to a terror group.
This should be a no-brainer to remove his ass from this nation. I cannot believe a person swearing to terror groups can get a gun permit. His ass should get sent out, period.
There is no stopping the guns, they're out of the tube.
There is no stopping any religion because of violence, because ours will be next.
There sure can be kicking their asses out, if they have ANY association with terr'ists. This is a massive attack on US soil. This is a very big deal.
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My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the homos who were killed, that God will give them comfort and strength through these difficult times.
My thoughts and prayers are with the homos who were injured too, that they'll have a speedy and full recovery of.
A+ for sensitivity
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President about to speak. Pretty sure "Islamic" and "extremist" will be the first two sounds out his wordhole.
He did say "terrorism," anyway. But no real indication of allegiance or motivation, other than "hate." Just a random angry fellow, then, who wanted to terrorize strangers. Tragic and totally unexpected.
Then guns are bad and stuff, but resolute and reassuring as always. God bless our president.
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Sure thing cupcake:
https://mises.org/blog/few-gun-laws-new-hampshire-safer-canada
With Few Gun Laws, New Hampshire Is Safer Than Canada
the top 5 out of 6 "safest" places in that report are in Canada but I think you already knew that.
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We need to start approaching these politicians, in person, to register our complaints. Because this shit ain't working, the way we're going about it.
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He also was in possession of a fake security pass to "work" the LA Pride event today.
wow, is it fucking kill gays weekend or something? wtf!?
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Coming out now that Isis is claiming responsibility, not just the camel jockey on his own pledging allegiance.
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We need to start approaching these politicians, in person, to register our complaints. Because this shit ain't working, the way we're going about it.
Yes,
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So who had the worst weekend, you think, popstars, gays, or Florida?
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Yes,
Lmao, maybe if an initial confrontation doesn't send the message.
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50 dead and over 50 injured. Wow! How the hell did he amass a death toll like that? Did he have everybody lie on the ground? Was there just the one exit/entrance? Surprised he wasn't tackled and taken down.
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He did say "terrorism," anyway. But no real indication of allegiance or motivation, other than "hate." Just a random angry fellow, then, who wanted to terrorize strangers. Tragic and totally unexpected.
Then guns are bad and stuff, but resolute and reassuring as always. God bless our president.
You're always licking Obummers balls. This moron is a complete failure and the worst president in history. Admit it to yourself so recovery can begin.
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the top 5 out of 6 "safest" places in that report are in Canada but I think you already knew that.
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Large populations of whites with guns and few gun laws are as safe or safer than any place in Canada.
The same cannot be said about any other race/population density. Hell, they even have strict gun laws in those minority areas and they kill each other for sport.
Why do we not see this happening in places like New Hampshire and Vermont where there are large amounts of whites with no gun laws and high gun ownership?
Why is this the case?
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50 dead and over 50 injured. Wow! How the hell did he amass a death toll like that? Did he have everybody lie on the ground? Was there just the one exit/entrance? Surprised he wasn't tackled and taken down.
Maybe Nancy and Mary were too busy complaining about the curtains.
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So who had the worst weekend, you think, popstars, gays, or Florida?
how about a gay popstar that lives in florida?
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You're always licking Obummers balls. This moron is a complete failure and the worst president in history. Admit it to yourself so recovery can begin.
That obvious, huh? Apologies, I'll try and tone down my neverending pro-Obama rhetoric.
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You're always licking Obummers balls. This moron is a complete failure and the worst president in history. Admit it to yourself so recovery can begin.
bullshit.
obama > bush jr. Try and justify it isn't so. ;)
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how about a gay popstar that lives in florida?
Might have a ... winner?
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how about a gay popstar that lives in florida?
Totally fucked up world we live in.
That girl was just trying to be herself and raise money for the Humane Society and she was gunned down for no reason.
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And can't deny GWB allowed for Obama to get in, in the first place. Then Obama goes on to become GWB II. Zoink!
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I remember in the paris attack thread when True Adonis laughed at all europeans, not just french, but all europeans for being pussy and gay for not protecting their country, but now.... ::)
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Are you too stupid to see they're pushing the same agenda you fucking clown?
are you too stupid to see that the house and senate control more then the president you fucking loser fuck?
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You need a gun if you live 30 minutes away from law enforcement and someone is breaking into your house. What are you supposed to do then?
You seem to forget the MAJORITY of the United States is rural and law enforcement CANNOT respond fast enough to meet the needs of its citizens.
Seriously, what is your answer to this?
studies show that personal safety decreases rather than increases when keeping a gun in the home. don't think the findings are any different for rural areas
start handing out 10 year + mandatory sentences for gun possession and see how many petty burglars and thievs want to carry guns.
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I remember in the paris attack thread when True Adonis laughed at all europeans, not just french, but all europeans for being pussy and gay for not protecting their country, but now.... ::)
Guess what,
We won't tolerate this shit from Muslims at all. You will see. Especially if Trump gets in and I think he will. Americans do not put up with this and the liberals are finally waking up to this.
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studies show that personal safety decreases rather than increases when keeping a gun in the home. don't think the findings are any different for rural areas
start handing out 10 year + mandatory sentences for gun possession and see how many petty burglars and thievs want to carry guns.
They already have laws like that, making it a felony instantly if a convicted felon has a firearm. Guess what? They still carry guns.
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They already have laws like that, making it a felony instantly if a convicted felon has a firearm. Guess what? They still carry guns.
yup, this
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My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the homos who were killed, that God will give them comfort and strength through these difficult times.
My thoughts and prayers are with the homos who were injured too, that they'll have a speedy and full recovery of.
Thanks for reminding us that fundie christians like yourself can also be despicable human beings
It's easy to forget that when things like this happen
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Are you going to wave your magic Liberal wand and "poof" all guns will be gone world wide?
The only people you brain dead Libs will be disarming will be the law abiding citizens. You will purposely be making the good people of society easier targets for the criminals, because it fits your idiotic version of some Utopian society
don't need guns gone "world wide", the rest of the developed world has common sense gun control and doesn't have any major problem with gun crime or random massacres.
you need a gun amnesty, give gun owners (legal and illegal) a year period to hand in their guns. after that give them a 10-15 yr mandatory jail sentence for gun possession.
as much as the NRA and co try to muddy the waters, it's really not rocket science.
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don't need guns gone "world wide", the rest of the developed world has common sense gun control and doesn't have any major problem with gun crime or random massacres.
you need a gun amnesty, give gun owners (legal and illegal) a year period to hand in their guns. after that give them a 10-15 yr mandatory jail sentence for gun possession.
as much as the NRA and co try to muddy the waters, it's really not rocket science.
Again, if you live 30 minutes away from law enforcement, how are you supposed to protect yourself?
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If you live in the countryside, it is highly advisable to be well-armed.
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Again, if you live 30 minutes away from law enforcement, how are you supposed to protect yourself?
Good question.
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Again, if you live 30 minutes away from law enforcement, how are you supposed to protect yourself?
Condoms. Especially if you're heading to the Pulse.
Except last night.
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50 dead and over 50 injured. Wow! How the hell did he amass a death toll like that? Did he have everybody lie on the ground? Was there just the one exit/entrance? Surprised he wasn't tackled and taken down.
Same way those terrorists in Paris did it: ak-47 and shoot the victims at point blank range one by one....
Islam = fascism
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Again, if you live 30 minutes away from law enforcement, how are you supposed to protect yourself?
as i said, the stats show your personal safety decreases when you have a gun in your home, i'm sure said stats take into account harm coming to non gun owners from intruders.
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Guess what,
We won't tolerate this shit from Muslims at all. You will see. Especially if Trump gets in and I think he will. Americans do not put up with this and the liberals are finally waking up to this.
LOL we WILL see. I told you that the muslim invasion will come to america, and it will because there are higher powers in work, not presidents. Your laws will me nerfed against you because you're not a muslim and you're white, and you will just have to swallow it.
There will be a lot of these lone wolf jihadist minded scum taking tens, soon hundreds and thousands of lives in one strike and the media will tell you to think it's not all muslims, just this one guy. But you are not allowed to go on rampage and shoot every person who looks like an arab, you will be sentenced to life in prison.
I can already see it: "american woman sentenced from 20 years to life in prison for shooting a muslim man who tried to rape her and beat her". Trust me, THAT will be americas future. The people may do a civil war, many people will die as marthyrs, but then it will be written in stone, that only the few will have "freedom" while the general public are held in 24/7 intense surveillance just like in the movie hunger games.
There are already muslim no go zones in america as well, oh you WILL tolerate it true adonis, suppress your homone levels you biggoted ass blondie :D :D :D :D :D :D
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50 dead and over 50 injured. Wow! How the hell did he amass a death toll like that? Did he have everybody lie on the ground? Was there just the one exit/entrance?
They had this dancefloor centipede thing going on, so exits/entrances blocked, obviously.
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Large populations of whites with guns and few gun laws are as safe or safer than any place in Canada.
The same cannot be said about any other race/population density. Hell, they even have strict gun laws in those minority areas and they kill each other for sport.
Why do we not see this happening in places like New Hampshire and Vermont where there are large amounts of whites with no gun laws and high gun ownership?
Why is this the case?
I don't know what to say, try looking up the demographics for ontario vs. vermont since ontario ranks a couple spots higher. you're gonna have to read your own data for that.
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as i said, the stats show your personal safety decreases when you have a gun in your home, i'm sure said stats take into account those unfortunate occasions when you have to fire off a few shots at an intruder.
If you don't want to own a gun (I don't), then don't . Just don't tell law abiding citizens of these United States they can't own a gun. It really is that simple.
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A+ for sensitivity
Sarcasm? This is the best you're gonna get from any getbigger.
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Oh, I'm sure there were many open exits.
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No Sir.
You just need to get a better computer.
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Oh, I'm sure there were many open exits.
Hmmm...Is that "code" for something? ;D
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Wonder how the guy obtained the guns. Haven't looked too much at this yet (if I ever do).
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wow what a tragedy
gotta wonder what the Soprano crew feels right now
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Hmmm...Is that "code" for something? ;D
Maybe they had difficulty recognizing that they were in fact exits.
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why can't we all just get along?
(http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/u/u/thumbs/2013/Aug/2/b24886acad9a_sf_8.jpg)
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lmfao
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In all seriousness, I feel bad for the innocent people lost. They didn't deserve this.
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the shooter:
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_480w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/06/12/Interactivity/Images/cropOrlandoAllegedGunman2A1465750030.jpg)
Why am I not surprised that the shooter is a smug dickhead
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Why am I not surprised that the shooter is a smug dickhead
Are you implying that only Smug Dickheads kill Gay people?
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If this guy was running around "pledging allegiance" to terror, and it turns out LE and investigators were playing stupid, then someone needs to pay.
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I read in the .uk article that the shooter had previously pledged allegiance to a terror group.
This should be a no-brainer to remove his ass from this nation. I cannot believe a person swearing to terror groups can get a gun permit. His ass should get sent out, period.
There is no stopping the guns, they're out of the tube.
There is no stopping any religion because of violence, because ours will be next.
There sure can be kicking their asses out, if they have ANY association with terr'ists. This is a massive attack on US soil. This is a very big deal.
Can't remove an American citizen who was born and raised there. Should have been some seriously armed security inside and outside all clubs and paid an officer to drive the area . That's what most gay clubs do but I don't think this one did.
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Why am I not surprised that the shooter is a smug dickhead
Lol, I would love to smack that phone out of his hand and punch that fucking beanie off his head.
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I remember in the paris attack thread when True Adonis laughed at all europeans, not just french, but all europeans for being pussy and gay for not protecting their country, but now.... ::)
Yeah, what now Adonis?
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In all seriousness, I feel bad for the innocent people lost. They didn't deserve this.
No, they most certainly did not. I doubt this will galvanize the left toward real action against terrorism. They will likely just use this as an excuse to try and take guns from law abiding citizens of the United States, promote the joy of islam and how we should all drop our islamophobia and embrace islam as the religion of peace that it truly is and not the dogma of doo doo that evil whitey has painted it... ::)
What a dumbass faux word is "islamophobia".
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I remember in the paris attack thread when True Adonis laughed at all europeans, not just french, but all europeans for being pussy and gay for not protecting their country, but now.... ::)
True Adonis is a shitty human being.
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Thing is, this guy was probably taking it up the ass at every opportunity. Looks like the type.
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No, they most certainly did not. I doubt this will galvanize the left toward real action against terrorism. They will likely just use this as an excuse to try and take guns from law abiding citizens of the United States, promote the joy of islam and how we should all drop our islamophobia and embrace islam as the religion of peace that it truly is and not the dogma of doo doo that evil whitey has painted it... ::)
What a dumbass faux word is "islamophobia".
Oh, yes. I couldn't agree more. They will refer to their media to plan the next step, and they'll eventually be led off a cliff.
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At my girlfriends house his parents live down the street on bayshore,he lived on ft pierce which is the ghetto
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This phaggot terrorist is lucky 240 wasn't playing at this club strapped with his Glock.
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Can't remove an American citizen who was born and raised there. Should have been some seriously armed security inside and outside all clubs and paid an officer to drive the area . That's what most gay clubs do but I don't think this one did.
I'm talking about ANY american citizen - no matter the race, religion - that claims ALLEGIANCE to a foreign terrorist organization, as the .uk site reported this shooter did.
Freedom of speech goes out the window when you're pledging to an enemy with which we're currently at war.
Banning religion is funny to people now, but it'll be THEIR religion that goes next. Banning guns won't happen. But they CAN remove everyone swearing allegiance to terror groups. Easy one.
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This phaggot terrorist is lucky 240 wasn't playing at this club strapped with his Glock.
Yup. Just imagine if Groink were in that club. The man would've seen Groink and been sucked into manlove and forgotten all about the 72 virgins as opposed to a moment in the men's room with the Groinkster.
Religion of piece, indeed.
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I'm really getting sick and tired of the fuckheads responsible for investigation in this country. Trying to play all things at once, including allowing the spread of terror. Because that's exactly what they're doing with this surveillance state.
LMAO you think they're trying to keep us safe? Please. They're looking to destroy us.
Someone must pay.
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I'm talking about ANY american citizen - no matter the race, religion - that claims ALLEGIANCE to a foreign terrorist organization, as the .uk site reported this shooter did.
Freedom of speech goes out the window when you're pledging to an enemy with which we're currently at war.
Banning religion is funny to people now, but it'll be THEIR religion that goes next. Banning guns won't happen. But they CAN remove everyone swearing allegiance to terror groups. Easy one.
If you claim allegiance to a foreign power, are you not in fact, a traitor?
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the best way to reduce terror is to stop participating in it.
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I hope south beach is not next....Ocean Drive has quite a Gay scene there
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True Adonis is a shitty human being.
That's putting it lightly too.
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If you claim allegiance to a foreign power, are you not in fact, a traitor?
I would think so. I'm sure someone will try the freedom of speech angle... but if this report is accurate that he wrote it, then he shouldn't be here.
All these complaints about the religion - I don't know what their solution to this is.
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the best way to reduce terror is to stop participating in it.
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If you're looking to increase it, however, then it all starts making sense.
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Yup. Just imagine if Groink were in that club. The man would've seen Groink and been sucked into manlove and forgotten all about the 72 virgins as opposed to a moment in the men's room with the Groinkster.
Religion of piece, indeed.
Either 240 or Groink in the area would have prevented this terror-act for sure.
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I would think so. I'm sure someone will try the freedom of speech angle... but if this report is accurate that he wrote it, then he shouldn't be here.
All these complaints about the religion - I don't know what their solution to this is.
I'm not fully aware of what's been said, etc., but how in hell can it be explained that this person with such a history would go on, unobserved, to prance his latent self into a bar, fully armed, to kill 50 people.
If this surveillance state means shit-all: How in the fuck is it people aren't held responsible?
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If you're looking to increase it, however, then it all starts making sense.
within an insane framework, it does
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within an insane framework, it does
It certainly doesn't make sense if you want a peaceful place to live.
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I'm not fully aware of what's been said, etc., but how in hell can it be explained that this person with such a history would go on, unobserved, to prance his latent self into a bar, fully armed, to kill 50 people.
If this surveillance state means shit-all: How in the fuck is it people aren't held responsible?
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Because it is impossible to sift through all of the data that they are collecting.
The more data they get from everyone, the harder it is to actually get through it.
Intelligence is a failure of its own design.
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I'm not fully aware of what's been said, etc., but how in hell can it be explained that this person with such a history would go on, unobserved, to prance his latent self into a bar, fully armed, to kill 50 people.
If this surveillance state means shit-all: How in the fuck is it people aren't held responsible?
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maybe this is where the problem lies.
If there's *ALREADY* enough dirt on a person to warrant a survillance team... then maybe it's just time to deport them.
Yes, you won't "catch them in the act", but as we leared from 1993WTC, arming bad guys to "catch them in the act" doesn't always work.
If a person swears allegiance to a terror group, give them a 40 year ban from US soil. Or make it a lifetime ban.
Pretty freakin' simple. All this crap about "we were watching him..." is what feeds conspiracy theorists - because when they don't catch the bad guy in time, everyone plays dumb about their involvement prior.
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maybe this is where the problem lies.
If there's *ALREADY* enough dirt on a person to warrant a survillance team... then maybe it's just time to deport them.
Yes, you won't "catch them in the act", but as we leared from 1993WTC, arming bad guys to "catch them in the act" doesn't always work.
If a person swears allegiance to a terror group, give them a 40 year ban from US soil. Or make it a lifetime ban.
Pretty freakin' simple. All this crap about "we were watching him..." is what feeds conspiracy theorists - because when they don't catch the bad guy in time, everyone plays dumb about their involvement prior.
AFAIK this clown was home-brewed.
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240, do you know where and when the guy got the weapons? I haven't seen all the info on it.
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Honestly, this shit might wake up the LGBT community. Its been prancing and dancing around lately with "Hug a Muslim" and trying to be friends. As Tupac says, "Fuck Friends". The community need to get armed and ready to defend themselves. Better to die fighting then to try running.
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Because it is impossible to sift through all of the data that they are collecting.
The more data they get from everyone, the harder it is to actually get through it.
Intelligence is a failure of its own design.
If true, and I wouldn't deny it at all, then IMO it shows they aren't merely into this for "security reasons" and the whole thing needs to be immediately revealed.
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240, do you know where and when the guy got the weapons? I haven't seen all the info on it.
nope, i haven't been attached to the new on this one, like I normally am. weekends are always crazy for me.
it's scary. I play in crazy packed clubs all the time, and I'm ALWAYS bitching about lack of security. I'm talking year-round spring break places with 300+ people in the room.
You have 3 unarmed guys working the door, chatting up girls in bikinis and playing on their phones, while people just run wild, fall into the band, spill drinks, and in general just act like fcking entitled babies. Every night, I must restrain myself from punching 5-6 people, seriously. They fall into you and laugh or act upset that you were in their way, what with your standing onstage and all. Last night, packed room, some drunk bikini chick falls into the drumset while snapchatting. It's funny, if the set doesn't cost 3 grand, ya know?
this is a wakeup call. Clubs, search people. Security guards, wake up and watch the room. I can see how an AR and a handgun could cut down 100 people in 30 seconds, easily. many of those rounds probably went through 15 people.
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Honestly, this shit might wake up the LGBT community. Its been prancing and dancing around lately with "Hug a Muslim" and trying to be friends. As Tupac says, "Fuck Friends". The community need to get armed and ready to defend themselves. Better to die fighting then to try running.
This is exactly what I was alluding to a few posts back. Time to stop running around with the enemy and voting for people like Hillary Clinton.
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Honestly, this shit might wake up the LGBT community. Its been prancing and dancing around lately with "Hug a Muslim" and trying to be friends. As Tupac says, "Fuck Friends". The community need to get armed and ready to defend themselves. Better to die fighting then to try running.
Well said. Be great to see the uphill gardeners and lezzers get pissed and bitchy with the mussers, whacking their heads with their high heels and scratching them with their fake nails.
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That's putting it lightly too.
I laugh and still laugh at Europeans for promoting the Islamification of Europe and the attitude of the public is apathetic.
Us Americans are NOT like that. We do not promote Islamification and you will NEVER see it grow in our country as it does in Europe. The average European is just fine with letting Muslims run roughshod over their citizenry and culture.
This is not something seen in America nor will you ever see it. So yes, until Europe puts its foot down, I and most of America will continue to laugh at your apathetic excuses for why Islam should run your country and culture.
That shit does not fly in the US. I think you and the others misunderstand this and what all the "laughing" is about.
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It certainly doesn't make sense if you want a peaceful place to live.
FBI investigated him uh twice.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-fbi-investigated-omar-mateen-in-the-1465761108-htmlstory.html
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Exactly right about Hillary. She is right there, a key-player in the smoke show that "never quite seems" to prevent disaster, despite being in love with the surveillance state.
And Tu brings up a good point, in that our old system was very good at sharpening observation in order to determine direction -- and having a dragnet-sort of surveillance state is nothing but power gone mad. It is a massive fail on every level.
But no one can tell me they weren't aware of this POS.
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saved AIDS a lot of trouble
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FBI investigated him uh twice.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-fbi-investigated-omar-mateen-in-the-1465761108-htmlstory.html
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The same FBI who seem to have gotten "failure" down to a science?
I'm telling you, there are individuals out there who need to be punished. Not just this case, either. It's become the norm and it needs to stop.
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My girlfriend's older brother was currently working with the guy as his supervisor. They're security for a housing development with million dollar houses. He worked overtime last night to cover for the guy because he was a no-show, not knowing that he was in Orlando shooting up the place. He should be expecting FBI agents shortly.
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FBI investigated him uh twice.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-fbi-investigated-omar-mateen-in-the-1465761108-htmlstory.html
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See, once should be enough. Boot his ass.
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At some point they will release photographs of the shooting victims. And I'm pretty certain you'll see lots of beaming smiles in the photographs, as gay men love having their photo taken, and they always smile at the camera.
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Once again, it becomes very difficult to see how these guys aren't actually trying to cause terror to happen.
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Local LE need to step up to the plate and call-out the FBI.
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Stay classy, trump.
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I laugh and still laugh at Europeans for promoting the Islamification of Europe and the attitude of the public is apathetic.
Us Americans are NOT like that. We do not promote Islamification and you will NEVER see it grow in our country as it does in Europe. The average European is just fine with letting Muslims run roughshod over their citizenry and culture.
This is not something seen in America nor will you ever see it. So yes, until Europe puts its foot down, I and most of America will continue to laugh at your apathetic excuses for why Islam should run your country and culture.
That shit does not fly in the US. I think you and the others misunderstand this and what all the "laughing" is about.
It's already grown there a lot, and it will continue growing. Your man crush trump will only speak what the general population wants to hear, just like Obama did, and then do the exact opposite of what he promised. That's what will happend.
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Stay classy, trump.
He is right though.
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Stay classy, trump.
These aren't your actual choices but hypothetically, would you rather have a President that is..
A. Classy, but wrong about a key national security issue
B. Not super classy, but correct about that same critical issue
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These aren't your actual choices but hypothetically, would you rather have a President that is..
A. Classy, but wrong about a key national security issue
B. Not super classy, but correct about that same critical issue
Which one is classy, lol?
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Which one is classy, lol?
Lol, that's why I prefaced it with "these aren't your actual choices".
Hitlery is both wrong and classless.
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At some point they will release photographs of the shooting victims. And I'm pretty certain you'll see lots of beaming smiles in the photographs, as gay men love having their photo taken, and they always smile at the camera.
Will be interesting if there is push back about not wanting to release "all" their names.
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Why am I not surprised that the shooter is a smug dickhead
and a registered democrat too
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AOL is reporting ISIS took credit for the attack.
They did promise before that Ramadan would be very bloody this year.
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Lol, that's why I prefaced it with "these aren't your actual choices".
Hitlery is both wrong and classless.
Yeah, I get the feeling we're going to start seeing her smashed drunk, regularly, once she's safely in the WH. Bill Clinton appears drunk in public all the time and I'd bet he's a lightweight with the bottle in comparison to her.
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Guess nobody saw my post or took it seriously. My gf's brother worked with the shooter everyday. Pretty crazy
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Guess nobody saw my post or took it seriously. My gf's brother worked with the shooter everyday. Pretty crazy
How sure are you? That's the question.
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Guess nobody saw my post or took it seriously. My gf's brother worked with the shooter everyday. Pretty crazy
That's crazy. Thank God your gf's brother ins't a homo. Could have been him.
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How sure are you? That's the question.
How sure am I of what? I woke up to a screenshot of her dad's texts that her brother worked overtime last night because the shooter was a no-show to his job. The brother lives very close to where the shooter lives, and I have no reason to believe her own father would make something like that up.
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That's putting it lightly too.
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That's crazy. Thank God your gf's brother ins't a homo. Could have been him.
LOL! He's a red-blooded American. Surprised he didn't turn on his own supervisor. Supposedly her dad told her that the shooter asked a lot about guns to the brother. About AKs and ARs
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Even if Trump did tweet that, he's right. Fuck Islamic Arabic extremists.... They suck.
I wish Hilarious and Obama Bin Laden would tweet the same thing.
Pussy world...
Grow some farking balls...
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How sure am I of what? I woke up to a screenshot of her dad's texts that her brother worked overtime last night because the shooter was a no-show to his job. The brother lives very close to where the shooter lives, and I have no reason to believe her own father would make something like that up.
Yeah, if you believe it to be true, then it's really something to think about.
You'll probably hear every last little detail of anything to be said about it, and I must admit it would be interesting to know.
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Would be very interesting to know the things he talked about, etc.
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I hope south beach is not next....Ocean Drive has quite a Gay scene there
Same with Wilton Manors in Broward County. All Gay businesses, and residents.
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Would be very interesting to know the things he talked about, etc.
Tried to upload the screenshot via getbig but it doesn't work for some reason. He said he wanted an AR because they were "more accurate"
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Sounds like he was very interested in guns, and that he'd pledged allegiance to terrorism -- and yet our investigators just "couldn't quite" get it together in time to watch him, doggone it.
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this is a getbigers wet dream thread;
being glad its queers getting killed and being mad that its muslims doing the killing
this coming from "big black cock" himself. :D
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He is right though.
trump has been assisting isis very effectively
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-recruiting-sergeant-isis-ex-cia-chief-442017
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Aw, shucks. Maybe next time!
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Even if Trump did tweet that, he's right. Fuck Islamic Arabic extremists.... They suck.
I wish Hilarious and Obama Bin Laden would tweet the same thing.
Pussy world...
Grow some farking balls...
Full statement.
Last night, our nation was attacked by a radical Islamic terrorist. It was the worst terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, and the second of its kind in 6 months. My deepest sympathy and support goes out to the victims, the wounded, and their families.
In his remarks today, President Obama disgracefully refused to even say the words 'Radical Islam'. For that reason alone, he should step down. If Hillary Clinton, after this attack, still cannot say the two words 'Radical Islam' she should get out of this race for the Presidency.
If we do not get tough and smart real fast, we are not going to have a country anymore. Because our leaders are weak, I said this was going to happen – and it is only going to get worse. I am trying to save lives and prevent the next terrorist attack. We can't afford to be politically correct anymore.
The terrorist, Omar Mir Saddique Mateen, is the son of an immigrant from Afghanistan who openly published his support for the Afghanistani Taliban and even tried to run for President of Afghanistan. According to Pew, 99% of people in Afghanistan support oppressive Sharia Law.
We admit more than 100,000 lifetime migrants from the Middle East each year. Since 9/11, hundreds of migrants and their children have been implicated in terrorism in the United States.
Hillary Clinton wants to dramatically increase admissions from the Middle East, bringing in many hundreds of thousands during a first term – and we will have no way to screen them, pay for them, or prevent the second generation from radicalizing.
We need to protect all Americans, of all backgrounds and all beliefs, from Radical Islamic Terrorism - which has no place in an open and tolerant society. Radical Islam advocates hate for women, gays, Jews, Christians and all Americans. I am going to be a President for all Americans, and I am going to protect and defend all Americans. We are going to make America safe again and great again for everyone.
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OH, d-a-r-n!!
Maybe next time, we'll get it together in time to make a difference.
We'll just wave our flags in the meantime.
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Don't blame us! We're the good guys, remember?
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So who had the worst weekend, you think, popstars, gays, or Florida?
All of the above. :'(
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Tell him to keep it as short as possible with them when they question him, as they can't be trusted with information, clearly.
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Here is "Mullah Kekar" in Norway giving an honest view about islam and the west.
Pretty chilling to watch. It's coming to america, trust me. Save your guns and bullets don't give them away.
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mubarak hussain obama is not saying it's the muslims that did this, it's the gun lobby that makes "powerful assault rifles easily accessible"
lol disgraceful
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mubarak hussain obama is not saying it's the muslims that did this, it's the gun lobby that makes "powerful assault rifles easily accessible"
lol disgraceful
I can't even watch that guy speak anymore. 100% Fraud.
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this is a getbigers wet dream thread;
being glad its queers getting killed and being mad that its muslims doing the killing
Kinda paradoxical. Like Norway's Breivik- actually he wanted the same kind of society as the Muslims he hated: No gays, women should be controlled and not promiscuous, a strict authoritarian society with a clear hierarchy based on an "order", strict religiousity etc...
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I'll try to find how he got the guns, and will report back.
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I can't even watch that guy speak anymore. 100% Fraud.
The Afghan terrorist supposedly went into a shop and bought the guns over the counter, even though he was on a watchlist. You don't see that as a problem?
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"Legally purchased"
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I can't even watch that guy speak anymore. 100% Fraud.
shady fella, how did this guy ever get elected to be president? alledgedly his wife is a crosdresser
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The Afghan terrorist supposedly went into a shop and bought the guns over the counter, even though he was on a watchlist. You don't see that as a problem?
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Um, and yet he strolled into a bar with those weapons and killed 50 people with the blessing of the FBI.
Yeah, that is a problem.
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Would love to meet your dad some day.
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Um, and yet he strolled into a bar and killed 50 people with the blessing of the FBI.
Yeah, that is a problem.
very obvious to me what happened here: mubarak decided it's time to sacrifice some more people for the purpose of manupilating the masses into further submitting to new world order plan. business as usual
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The Afghan terrorist supposedly went into a shop and bought the guns over the counter, even though he was on a watchlist. You don't see that as a problem?
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Obama TRIED to change this law & repubs/NRA stopped him.
Membership in a terrorist organization (OR being on the watchlist) does not prohibit a person from possessing firearms or explosives under current federal law
http://www.newsweek.com/terrorist-watchlist-no-bar-buying-guns-400959
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Obama AND Trump wanted to close the watchlist loophole.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/lawmakers-want-loophole-closed-allows-people-terro/26821984
Thank your repub congressman for cawkblocking this one.
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God bless, but I can't see how everyone doesn't realize what a fraud the entire "investigation" process has been revealed as.
Don't interfere with our ability to have guns and protect ourselves. We're not the enemy. FOLLOW THIS POS, INSTEAD, MOTHRFUCKRS. HE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=587291.0
I posted about how insane it was - that someone on the terror watchlist could still legally buy guns.
This was Nov 2015. Insane that a dude can have 2 FBI investigations on him, and can still buy weapons.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=587291.0
I posted about how insane it was - that someone on the terror watchlist could still legally buy guns.
This was Nov 2015. Insane that a dude can have 2 FBI investigations on him, and can still buy weapons.
you wouldnt have this problem if you didnt allow these people inside your borders
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=587291.0
I posted about how insane it was - that someone on the terror watchlist could still legally buy guns.
This was Nov 2015. Insane that a dude can have 2 FBI investigations on him, and can still buy weapons.
But how fucking insane is it that, once he has the guns, no one stops him from doing what he did?
Which is more insane IYO brother?
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Any bodybuilders involved?
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But how fucking insane is it that, once he has the guns, no one stops him from doing what he did?
Which is more insane IYO brother?
he may have shot his way in, who knows. i'm guessing the security guards heard an AR-15 emptying fast and they just ducked like everyone else. most 'security' are buzzed, smoke pot before their shift, hit on girls, play on phones, and make 100 a night. I doubt they did much, I doubt they could.
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Those bullets move through people, that's terrifying.
I don't know how a person on the FBI list, being watched, could buy 2 guns without serious alarm bells going off, IF that is indeed the case. Someone got some splaining to do.
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he may have shot his way in, who knows. i'm guessing the security guards heard an AR-15 emptying fast and they just ducked like everyone else. most 'security' are buzzed, smoke pot before their shift, hit on girls, play on phones, and make 100 a night. I doubt they did much, I doubt they could.
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Those bullets move through people, that's terrifying.
I don't know how a person on the FBI list, being watched, could buy 2 guns without serious alarm bells going off, IF that is indeed the case. Someone got some splaining to do.
To think we'll even get a hint of explanation, would defy all experience in that regard.
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So you have a guy on a watchlist. Now he's bought weapons.
Perfect, you'd think. Now we'll take care of this problem and get this guy in action.
But Noooooo...
When will Americans become fed up?
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Certain Americans are involved in the crimes, my friends. Manufactured Terror.
Keep your guns close by, and shut your idiot TV the fuck UP.
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i love how the gun nuts are desperately trying to assert that because this particular nut job happened to be muslim then this somehow isn't a gun control failure like sandy hook. no this is just about "radical islam"
WRONG! this guy was not ISIS, the weapons weren't smuggled in from syria, not even bought on the black market. this guy was born and bred in the US, worked as a security guard and simply exercised his constitutional right to go and buy a load of guns legally over the counter.
just the same as the race nut that shot up the gospel church and the loon that killed all the kids in sandy hook. next week will be a different one...odds are the perp will be white next time.
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Would love to meet your dad some day.
Hahaha that's my girlfriend's dad.
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odds are the perp will be white next time.
Don't take that to Vegas.
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And BTW, don't believe in the shit about "oh, well...we'll just do things by watchlist"
Who in the fuck do you think is making the watchlist?
No, make the queers at the FBI do their fucking job. And when something like this happens, you make people take falls. No excuses.
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And BTW, don't believe in the shit about "oh, well...we'll just do things by watchlist"
Who in the fuck do you think is making the watchlist?
No, make the queers at the FBI do their fucking job. And when something like this happens, you make people take falls. No excuses.
what if he (the terrorist) just recently decided to carry out this shooting?
No level of FBI surveillance can 100% stop these psychos from carrying out these attacks, unfortunately.
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what if he (the terrorist) just recently decided to carry out this shooting?
No level of FBI surveillance can 100% stop these psychos from carrying out these attacks, unfortunately.
it's funny to think that banning guns will stop terrorists from getting them, look at europe lol
what we need to ban is muslims
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i love how the gun nuts are desperately trying to assert that because this particular nut job happened to be muslim then this somehow isn't a gun control failure like sandy hook. no this is just about "radical islam"
WRONG! this guy was not ISIS, the weapons weren't smuggled in from syria, not even bought on the black market. this guy was born and bred in the US, worked as a security guard and simply exercised his constitutional right to go and buy a load of guns legally over the counter.
just the same as the race nut that shot up the gospel church and the loon that killed all the kids in sandy hook. next week will be a different one...odds are the perp will be white next time.
You are a fool the guy would of used a bomb if he couldn't obtain a gun. He would of gotten a gun illegally like the terrorists in Paris.
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mubarak hussain obama is not saying it's the muslims that did this, it's the gun lobby that makes "powerful assault rifles easily accessible"
lol disgraceful
No he said terrorism.
I don't see where the religion matters personally.
Either you're a shitbag or you're not.
People who kill people like this are not all Islamic. They are not all Christian. They are not all anything except shitbags.
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unhappy gay lovers. dangerous people
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Any bodybuilders involved?
Derek Anthony being carried out at 54 seconds
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i love how the gun nuts are desperately trying to assert that because this particular nut job happened to be muslim then this somehow isn't a gun control failure like sandy hook. no this is just about "radical islam"
WRONG! this guy was not ISIS, the weapons weren't smuggled in from syria, not even bought on the black market. this guy was born and bred in the US, worked as a security guard and simply exercised his constitutional right to go and buy a load of guns legally over the counter.
just the same as the race nut that shot up the gospel church and the loon that killed all the kids in sandy hook. next week will be a different one...odds are the perp will be white next time.
i love how the gun nuts are desperately trying to assert that because this particular nut job happened to be muslim then this somehow isn't a gun control failure like sandy hook. no this is just about "radical islam"
Sandy Hook? was a gun control failure? How so? AR15's were " banned " in Connecticut ( still are ) at the time and that lunatic killed his mother and stole her firearms , so which " new " law would have prevented this? ???
WRONG! this guy was not ISIS, the weapons weren't smuggled in from syria, not even bought on the black market. this guy was born and bred in the US, worked as a security guard and simply exercised his constitutional right to go and buy a load of guns legally over the counter.
He pledged allegiance to ISAL thanks for playing though. ;) ISAL is taking credit ;) he was exercising his Constitutional right to own firearms NOT murder people with them.
just the same as the race nut that shot up the gospel church and the loon that killed all the kids in sandy hook. next week will be a different one...odds are the perp will be white next time.
This will happen again almost did in Cali at Gay Pride , and the lunatic who shot up a church shouldn't have been able to purchase a gun , thank the FBI for letting that one slide and again , same with Sandy Hook , he killed his mother and stole her guns , so again explain what new laws would have prevented this? NONE
You're all for confiscation , it's not an answer it's not realistic and it only creates more violence. Anymore bright ideas? ???
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what if he (the terrorist) just recently decided to carry out this shooting?
No level of FBI surveillance can 100% stop these psychos from carrying out these attacks, unfortunately.
No, nothing is 100%. Whether something could have stopped this particular shooting will never be known, since it appears no one even tried to do that.
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how was he able to kill so many people when he had an interaction with a cop first?
I don't understand that
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how was he able to kill so many people when he had an interaction with a cop first?
I don't understand that
What do you mean? I hadn't heard this.
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how was he able to kill so many people when he had an interaction with a cop first?
I don't understand that
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What do you mean? I hadn't heard this.
1.10 and forwards:
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This:
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how was he able to kill so many people when he had an interaction with a cop first?
I don't understand that
Have you seen most cops?
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You are a fool the guy would of used a bomb if he couldn't obtain a gun. He would of gotten a gun illegally like the terrorists in Paris.
no you are a fool.going in a shop and buying a gun is ten times simpler than researching, sourcing the materials and successfully making a viable bomb.
there's a reason why this shit happens monthly in the us and nowhere else in the developed world. but you're too stupid to see the obvious.
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In islam, if imam gives a death sentence, then any muslim at any given time and anywehere can kill the one that is sentenced to death
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1.10 and forwards:
Damn, that's crazy. I guess the cop needs to go back to the firing range.
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Have you seen most cops?
lol
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Full statement.
Last night, our nation was attacked by a radical Islamic terrorist. It was the worst terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, and the second of its kind in 6 months. My deepest sympathy and support goes out to the victims, the wounded, and their families.
In his remarks today, President Obama disgracefully refused to even say the words 'Radical Islam'. For that reason alone, he should step down. If Hillary Clinton, after this attack, still cannot say the two words 'Radical Islam' she should get out of this race for the Presidency.
If we do not get tough and smart real fast, we are not going to have a country anymore. Because our leaders are weak, I said this was going to happen – and it is only going to get worse. I am trying to save lives and prevent the next terrorist attack. We can't afford to be politically correct anymore.
I agree, this anti Islamophobia is being taken too far. And when was the last time you heard "western-phobia"? Muslims are totally exempt from this lol.
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Even if Trump did tweet that, he's right. Fuck Islamic Arabic extremists.... They suck.
I wish Hilarious and Obama Bin Laden would tweet the same thing.
Pussy world...
Grow some farking balls...
but crusades
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He is right though.
But...but he's big meanie head! ::) Give me a break.
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But...but he's big meanie head! ::) Give me a break.
Actually. It's indicative of his ego more so than any correct thing.
This is the same person who said we have to let Syrians in as well.
Like it or not, the US is not a nation that starts building lists because we don't like someone's religion.
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Too bad the guy wasn't suspected of selling gear. He'd have never been let out of their clutches and they'd have an eye on him at all times. They'd know exactly where he put the guns he'd just bought and they would be prepared to jump him at any moment.
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^ All true, btw.
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Sandy Hook? was a gun control failure? How so? AR15's were " banned " in Connecticut ( still are ) at the time and that lunatic killed his mother and stole her firearms , so which " new " law would have prevented this? ???
He pledged allegiance to ISAL thanks for playing though. ;) ISAL is taking credit ;) he was exercising his Constitutional right to own firearms NOT murder people with them.
This will happen again almost did in Cali at Gay Pride , and the lunatic who shot up a church shouldn't have been able to purchase a gun , thank the FBI for letting that one slide and again , same with Sandy Hook , he killed his mother and stole her guns , so again explain what new laws would have prevented this? NONE
You're all for confiscation , it's not an answer it's not realistic and it only creates more violence. Anymore bright ideas? ???
you are a good guy, but you are so far in denial (like most of the pro gun supporters) that's it's just pointless even trying to argue this with you. this is why i pity the rational people in the US that can see the obvious and have to endure these arguments.
it's like if there was a boulder in your doorway stopping you get into your house but instead of you accepting the obvious problem "the boulder" and the obvious solution "move the boulder". the gun nuts are going to come up with any amount of intricate arguments and excuses as to why moving the boulder is not the solution.
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you are a good guy, but you are so far in denial (like most of the pro gun supporters) that's it's just pointless even trying to argue this with you. this is why i pity the rational people in the US that can see the obvious and have to endure these arguments.
it's like if there was a boulder in your doorway stopping you get into your house but instead of you accepting the obvious problem "the boulder" and the obvious solution "move the boulder". the gun nuts are going to come up with any amount of intricate arguments and excuses as to why moving the boulder is not the solution.
Do you deny that a shooting like this, isn't the full story behind guns?
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Sandy Hook? was a gun control failure? How so? AR15's were " banned " in Connecticut ( still are ) at the time and that lunatic killed his mother and stole her firearms , so which " new " law would have prevented this? ???
He pledged allegiance to ISAL thanks for playing though. ;) ISAL is taking credit ;) he was exercising his Constitutional right to own firearms NOT murder people with them.
This will happen again almost did in Cali at Gay Pride , and the lunatic who shot up a church shouldn't have been able to purchase a gun , thank the FBI for letting that one slide and again , same with Sandy Hook , he killed his mother and stole her guns , so again explain what new laws would have prevented this? NONE
You're all for confiscation , it's not an answer it's not realistic and it only creates more violence. Anymore bright ideas? ???
you sir don't seem to have the best judgement in this regard.
I recommend tuning in any firearms you may presently own, to the nearest police authority.
I'm the gun expert around here so I suggest you heed this advice.
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ND making some great points, though. No denying it.
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Actually. It's indicative of his ego more so than any correct thing.
This is the same person who said we have to let Syrians in as well.
Like it or not, the US is not a nation that starts building lists because we don't like someone's religion.
A religion that is incompatible with our constitution. We do not kill gays here or abuse women. If they want to do that they can go right back where that's accepted.
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but crusades
Where the Crusades at homie
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you are a good guy, but you are so far in denial (like most of the pro gun supporters) that's it's just pointless even trying to argue this with you. this is why i pity the rational people in the US that can see the obvious and have to endure these arguments.
it's like if there was a boulder in your doorway stopping you get into your house but instead of you accepting the obvious problem "the boulder" and the obvious solution "move the boulder". the gun nuts are going to come up with any amount of intricate arguments and excuses as to why moving the boulder is not the solution.
Insults aren't solutions. Your " solution " ( confiscation ) isn't a solution.
Bad guy murders a bunch of people with a gun , lets punish YOU who never did anything wrong. Makes sense to you? ???
Guns enable people to defend themselves at the low estimate 400K per year as as high as 2 million people per year , Some guy kills 50 people in a club , your solution lets take away the ability of up to 2 million people to defend themselves. Sound logic. ::)
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Insults aren't solutions. Your " solution " ( confiscation ) isn't a solution.
Bad guy murders a bunch of people with a gun , lets punish YOU who never did anything wrong. Makes sense to you? ???
Guns enable people to defend themselves at the low estimate 400K per year as as high as 2 million people per year , Some guy kills 50 people in a club , your solution lets take away the ability of up to 2 million people to defend themselves. Sound logic. ::)
Exactly right. No one can say otherwise.
None of this would be an issue, if it weren't for guys like Obama and the asses running the media. I really can't believe people fall for that shit.
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Where the Crusades at homie
In the minds of mentally ill liberals every time something like this pops off.
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In the minds of mentally ill liberals every time something like this pops off.
We need more Crusades brah
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We need more Crusades brah
Yup
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nowt care...
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I don't see where the religion matters personally.
It matters because it highlights some irrefutable truths.
Islam is incompatible with western ideals.
When you import individuals from majority-Muslim nations, you import Islamic culture (and consequently, many who adhere/will come to adhere, strictly, to the Islamic faith, therefore growing to hate a land and its ways/values that are contrary to what's commanded in the Qu'ran).
Islam is unique in that its how-to manual does not present its content as being cultivated through the influence of "god", but rather, THE direct word of "god". Not to be altered, strayed from, etc. As well, it has a ready-made, "god"-made political/legal system at its core (Sharia).
To view the photos a few pages back of gay people marching with signs declaring support for Islam and its followers is the height of ignorance and/or delusion.
Islam states very clearly its hatred for homosexuality. That some "Muslims" suggest otherwise doesn't alter facts. These in-name-only Muslims do not represent Islam's truth.
Islam is a virus that at its core commands the true faithful to spread it almost exactly as a ... virus ... does.
We've already allowed the virus in. However, we can fight it on home turf while limiting further infection through irresponsible immigration from Muslim countries.
The truth hurts. It's uncomfortable. It is politically incorrect.
It doesn't fit with the multicultural peace, love and harmony narrative radical (a.k.a. brainwashed) liberals cling to.
Arabic culture and Islam will never be our friend. To the contrary, it is our enemy.
We cannot tolerate it.
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Then there's this...
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Anybody else notice that our beloved president only called this attack against homosexuals a "hate crime". I don't recall his doing that for the victims in Chattanooga, San Bernadino, or Paris.
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Just noticed on the national news, they did a very long close-up of a guy appearing to cry his eyes out over the situation (and I mean it was close, extended, and clearly intended to be taken personally).
Exactly what is the purpose of that, and how is it supposed to pass for news?
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Anybody else notice that our beloved president only called this attack against homosexuals a "hate crime". I don't recall his doing that for the victims in Chattanooga, San Bernadino, or Paris.
Great point.
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Stay classy, trump.
What is he supposed to fucking say?! Told you so?!
Guy tells you exactly what he's going to do with Radical Islam and he's labelled as a radical himself!
If you think someone who is willing to kill himself over two verses of a shit book is going to want to "talk it out," be my fucking guest.
I, on the other hand, welcome people like Trump who say what will happen if this shit keeps going on.
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Anybody else notice that our beloved president only called this attack against homosexuals a "hate crime". I don't recall his doing that for the victims in Chattanooga, San Bernadino, or Paris.
He literally thrives on these tragedies.
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I am deeply saddened with this act of religious barbarity, by the way.
Again, people slaughtered for no reason, except religious nonsense.
Fuck Islam. Fuck the coward lunatic.
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don't need guns gone "world wide", the rest of the developed world has common sense gun control and doesn't have any major problem with gun crime or random massacres.
you need a gun amnesty, give gun owners (legal and illegal) a year period to hand in their guns. after that give them a 10-15 yr mandatory jail sentence for gun possession.
as much as the NRA and co try to muddy the waters, it's really not rocket science.
Let me give you a real world example so the others who aren't blinded by liberal stupidity can see how fucking retarded your gun amnesty idea really is.
I live in the north shore of Chicago. In a part of the City where the politicians have outlawed guns for law abiding citizens. So now the Nig menace have figured out they can take the fucking L Train up to Michigan Avenue and rob or mug whoever the fuck they want to, because police won't arrest them and the rich unarmed Jewish women are easy targets.
Fuck you and your gun confiscation. No fucking way you spineless liberal kunts will take away my right to protect myself. You don't like guns? Don't own one then. But stay the fuck out of my business you meddling sack of Shitbag.
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If you take guns away from decent folk, only human trash will have them.
No one should be able to dictate how you choose to protect yourself, unless you show yourself to be irresponsible with your choice or a propensity to go on the offensive, unprovoked.
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If you take guns away from decent folk, only human trash will have them.
No one should be able to dictate how you choose to protect yourself, unless you show yourself to be irresponsible with your choice or a propensity to go on the offensive, unprovoked.
Are you going to allow shitbags like Nancy Pelosi or Barack Retardabama decide when you are "acting irresponsible"?
Why not make the liberal kunts on The View the new Supreme Court. Fuck them and fuck Sean Penn that dick sucking liberal phaggot.
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Let me give you a real world example so the others who aren't blinded by liberal stupidity can see how fucking retarded your gun amnesty idea really is.
I live in the north shore of Chicago. In a part of the City where the politicians have outlawed guns for law abiding citizens. So no the Nig menace have figured out they can take the fucking L Train up to Michigan Avenue and rob or mug whoever the fuck they want to, because police won't arrest them and the rich unarmed Jewish women are easy targets.
Fuck you and your gun confiscation. No fucking way you spineless liberal kunts will take away my right to protect myself. You don't like guns? Don't own one then. But stay the fuck out of my business you meddling sack of Shitbag.
amen
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Gun control does need to improve in FL, and I'm a conservative with an AK, AR, and multiple pistols. It's way too easy to get guns here and the background check is a joke as is getting your carry permit. There were so many retards in my class when I took it. Plus, I bought an AR for my girlfriend and didn't even have to register it in her name. It didn't matter as long as somebody bought it and passed the background, so it's at my discretion to give it to whoever the hell i want. Pretty loose laws here if you ask me. Needs to tighten up but not for the law abiding citizens. Either way, I realize when there's a will, there's a way. People will kill no matter what whether it's homemade explosives, knives, or guns purchased on the black market.
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Gun control does need to improve in FL, and I'm a conservative with an AK, AR, and multiple pistols. It's way too easy to get guns here and the background check is a joke as is getting your carry permit. So many retards in my class when I took it. Plus, I bought an AR for my girlfriend and didn't even have to register it in her name. It didn't matter as long as somebody bought it and passed the background, so it's at my discretion to give it to whoever the hell on want. Pretty loose laws here if you ask me. Needs to tighten up but not for the law abiding citizens. Either way, I realize when there's a will, there's a way. People will kill no matter what whether it's homemade explosives, knives, or guns purchased on the black market.
So you've just demonstrated by your own words that improving gun control is pointless...which it is, and only a phag would insist otherwise.
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So you've just demonstrated by your own words that improving gun control is pointless...which it is, and only a phag would insist otherwise.
Yeah pretty much pointless haha. Still think it's way too loose here. It's like the Wild West compared to other states. I'm not for gun free zones, gun confiscation or any of that phaggotry. Just want some improvement in the basics of gun purchases. Like if you've been under investigation by the FBI multiple times, you shouldn't be able to pass a background check.
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Has anyone confirmed Shizzo wasn't working the bathroom stall #4 glory hole last night?
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Has anyone confirmed Shizzo wasn't working the bathroom stall #4 glory hole last night?
I've seen reports that the guy either lived in Fort Pierce or Port St. Lucie (Shizzo's hometown). Could he have sucked this muzzie's cock?
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don't need guns gone "world wide", the rest of the developed world has common sense gun control and doesn't have any major problem with gun crime or random massacres.
you need a gun amnesty, give gun owners (legal and illegal) a year period to hand in their guns. after that give them a 10-15 yr mandatory jail sentence for gun possession.
as much as the NRA and co try to muddy the waters, it's really not rocket science.
Yes, let's fill up our prisons with non-criminals exercising their constitutional rights, dumbass. They catch criminals with guns and they walk after six months. Remember, in your world, our prisons are filled with non-violent minorities who've done nothing wrong other than being born black or Hispanic. You deserve a slow and painful death for expressing such idiocy. I would recommend putting down the gun and stabbing you 200 times in the gut instead until you understand the problem is the criminal, not the method of killing.
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I've seen reports that the guy either lived in Fort Pierce or Port St. Lucie (Shizzo's hometown). Could he have sucked this muzzie's cock?
The way Shizzo hoovers his way through the glory holes of that town I'd imagine the likelihood is very high he slurped this muzzie's elephant trunk.
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The way Shizzo hoovers his way through the glory holes of that town I'd imagine the likelihood is very high he slurped this muzzie's elephant trunk.
Hey, no need to insult him like that Walt.
He's already dead.
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Hey, no need to insult him like that Walt.
He's already dead.
There is no "need", but it's still fun to remind everyone that he admitted to sucking cock just to gain favor from a bunch of anonymous people on a lame bodybuilding board where no one actually works out.
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What is he supposed to fucking say?! Told you so?!
Guy tells you exactly what he's going to do with Radical Islam and he's labelled as a radical himself!
If you think someone who is willing to kill himself over two verses of a shit book is going to want to "talk it out," be my fucking guest.
I, on the other hand, welcome people like Trump who say what will happen if this shit keeps going on.
the problem is - nobody can tell us what the solution is. I'm listening to bill cunningham on fox radio just now while driving - spends 45 minutes complaining about muslims but doesn't offer a single solution.
Doesn't say we should ban them. Doesn't say we should stop all immigrants. Doesn't say anything about stopping mosques or anything else. just complains.
ALL THEY DO is just rally up this bottled up hate - but they give no solutions.
Hey, it's this one group doing it, so crack the fck down on them! I have no pity for them in any way. But trump is just telling us over and over how bad radical muslims is - Mr Trump, tell us what you'll do to STOP them. Cause "not let any new ones in" sure doesn't stop the ones that were BORN here, like a sand bern, the 4 military killed, that other military base shooting, and this one from orlando.
new rule - if you want to bitch about radical islam - cool - but share 3 realistic solutions. Don't just agree and give trump his handjob. Demand some fcking EXAMPLES of what you'll change. I'm all for it - just don't be vague and use it only for votes. Specifically, how would Trump's policy have stopped this man in any way. Anyone?
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the problem is - nobody can tell us what the solution is. I'm listening to bill cunningham on fox radio just now while driving - spends 45 minutes complaining about muslims but doesn't offer a single solution.
Doesn't say we should ban them. Doesn't say we should stop all immigrants. Doesn't say anything about stopping mosques or anything else. just complains.
ALL THEY DO is just rally up this bottled up hate - but they give no solutions.
Hey, it's this one group doing it, so crack the fck down on them! I have no pity for them in any way. But trump is just telling us over and over how bad radical muslims is - Mr Trump, tell us what you'll do to STOP them. Cause "not let any new ones in" sure doesn't stop the ones that were BORN here, like a sand bern, the 4 military killed, that other military base shooting, and this one from orlando.
new rule - if you want to bitch about radical islam - cool - but share 3 realistic solutions. Don't just agree and give trump his handjob. Demand some fcking EXAMPLES of what you'll change. I'm all for it - just don't be vague and use it only for votes. Specifically, how would Trump's policy have stopped this man in any way. Anyone?
We already have solutions: Secure our borders; profile these Muslim cats when they talk that mess about ISIS and jihad; and blast them to bits overseas.
This mess happened about 15 minutes away from my house and just a few blocks from where I train. It's time for this foolishness to stop and to hell with Obama's and Clinton's limp-wrested PC talk and so-called strategies.
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There is no "need", but it's still fun to remind everyone that he admitted to sucking cock just to gain favor from a bunch of anonymous people on a lame bodybuilding board where no one actually works out.
What? Where did you get the information that the mussie did that?
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We already have solutions: Secure our borders; profile these Muslim cats when they talk that mess about ISIS and jihad; and blast them to bits overseas.
which of these strategies stops today's shooter?
NONE.
See, I'm all for stopping them. I'm all for doing what it takes. But this dude was born here, was under FBI investigation and it was dropped, and not until he called 911 and proclaimed it, did anyone know. Is this correct?
He was born here. Bought the guns legally. FBI looked twice and found nothing.
Closing borders and smacking those who talk about it wouldn't have stopped him.
What Trump policy, what ANY policy stops it?
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which of these strategies stops today's shooter?
NONE.
See, I'm all for stopping them. I'm all for doing what it takes. But this dude was born here, was under FBI investigation and it was dropped, and not until he called 911 and proclaimed it, did anyone know. Is this correct?
He was born here. Bought the guns legally. FBI looked twice and found nothing.
Closing borders and smacking those who talk about it wouldn't have stopped him.
What Trump policy, what ANY policy stops it?
What the hell are you talking about? This guy has been on the FBI's radar for a few years. Now ask yourself why he wasn't stopped.
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What the hell are you talking about? This guy has been on the FBI's radar for a few years. Now ask yourself why he wasn't stopped.
He was investigated twice, and the FBI found nothing and dropped it. 2013 and 2014. He was cleared.
You're kinda ignorant on this issue, aren't you?
How is a person "stopped" when the FBI does its job and discovers nothing? Explain.
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What? Where did you get the information that the mussie did that?
The muzzie obviously despised everything that a dicklicker like Shizzo stands for....
As does most of the rest of the world.
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What the hell are you talking about?
What specific policy would you change? Explain.
I'm all for locking them up - but what crime did he do in 2013/2014 that you would have locked him up for?
The repubs in senate the ones that said a man under the FBI terror watch list can STILL buy guns. You didn't know that, did you Coach? You're a little behind here.
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What the hell are you talking about? This guy has been on the FBI's radar for a few years. Now ask yourself why he wasn't stopped.
How do you "stop" a person who hasn't broken any laws?
Explain, coach?
See, I cannot stand this unfocused anger at something, with ZERO explaination for how you would change anything.
"we'll stop them", and "'it'll be great".
Tell us actual solutions, coach.
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Did they find nothing or did locking him up not fit the administration's narrative that Islam is a religion of peace...
He was investigated twice, and the FBI found nothing and dropped it. 2013 and 2014. He was cleared.
You're kinda ignorant on this issue, aren't you?
How is a person "stopped" when the FBI does its job and discovers nothing? Explain.
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Did they find nothing or did locking him up not fit the administration's narrative that Islam is a religion of peace...
The FBI investigated him twice, and closed their investigation.
Now, if there's a CT that they let him do this, I'm all ears.
If they found nothing, okay.
Look, I'm entirely on the side of stopping them, all of them. But I haven't heard a real solution other than these vague "We're gonna do it right!" Tell us how, Trump/coach.
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He was investigated twice, and the FBI found nothing and dropped it. 2013 and 2014. He was cleared.
You're kinda ignorant on this issue, aren't you?
How is a person "stopped" when the FBI does its job and discovers nothing? Explain.
Why don't you provide a link to that since you've been on since it happened trying to find someone that would post some propaganda for you to exploit. Cleared my ass. If you're on a terrorist watch list or on "A" watch list you're never cleared otherwise him being investigated would have been a non-issue. For fucks sake, use some goddamn commonsense for just a second....one fucking second!!
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A good start would be to acknowledge that it is in fact Islamic terrorism. You can't fight something until you identify the source of the problem.
The FBI investigated him twice, and closed their investigation.
Now, if there's a CT that they let him do this, I'm all ears.
If they found nothing, okay.
Look, I'm entirely on the side of stopping them, all of them. But I haven't heard a real solution other than these vague "We're gonna do it right!" Tell us how, Trump/coach.
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A good start would be to acknowledge that it is in fact Islamic terrorism. You can't fight something until you identify the source of the problem.
More of the same.
"Acknowledge" = Then what?
It's all TALK. Trump is all TALK. I haven't heard a single thing he'll do that would have stopped today. Anything? Closing borders? This dude was done here. Investigate them? FBI did this dude twice.
What is the solution for people like this? Is there any?
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Why don't you provide a link to that since you've been on since it happened trying to find someone that would post some propaganda for you to exploit. Cleared my ass. If you're on a terrorist watch list or on "A" watch list you're never cleared otherwise him being investigated would have been a non-issue. For fucks sake, use some goddamn commonsense for just a second....one fucking second!!
You're completely wrong. People are removed from the list.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-omar-mateen-was-taken-off-a-terrorist-1465772737-htmlstory.html
You should go look in the mirror and shake your head at yourself for knowing this little about the terror watch list, Coach.
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More of the same.
"Acknowledge" = Then what?
It's all TALK. Trump is all TALK. I haven't heard a single thing he'll do that would have stopped today. Anything? Closing borders? This dude was done here. Investigate them? FBI did this dude twice.
What is the solution for people like this? Is there any?
Seriously, shut the fuck up with trump. It's your buddy Obama, the terrorist sympathizer (literally) that won't acknowledge it. You're fucking rhetoric is getting old.
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You're completely wrong. People are removed from the list.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-omar-mateen-was-taken-off-a-terrorist-1465772737-htmlstory.html
You should go look in the mirror and shake your head at yourself for knowing this little about the terror watch list, Coach.
FUCK the LA times. It's right up there with with MSNBC, Huffington post and your other lib rags.
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Cleared my ass. If you're on a terrorist watch list or on "A" watch list you're never cleared
Again, I"m ashamed for you. You don't know how the list works, do you? You're all emotion, not a lot of facts about actual events and policies regarding terrorists, right?
Omar Mateen was placed on a terrorist watch list maintained by the FBI when its agents questioned him in 2013 and 2014 about potential ties to terrorism, according to U.S. law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the case.
He was subsequently removed from that database after the FBI closed its two investigations, one official said.
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You're completely wrong. People are removed from the list.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-omar-mateen-was-taken-off-a-terrorist-1465772737-htmlstory.html
You should go look in the mirror and shake your head at yourself for knowing this little about the terror watch list, Coach.
If he was removed then how in the fuck do they know he's been investigated?
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FUCK the LA times. It's right up there with with MSNBC, Huffington post and your other lib rags.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/12/king-nelson-schiff-suggest-orlando-shooter-had-ties-to-radical-islam.html
Here is the SAME INFO from Fox News.
You stepped in shit on this one, Coach. Just say "Oh, I was wrong, I didn't know how that list worked" and eat some oatmeal, man. Shitting on the source when you're clearly wrong is uncomfortable for everyone reading this. The clock has expired, you lost by 2 TDs, and you're still throwing a challenge flag.
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If he was removed then how in the fuck do they know he's been investigated?
You didn't read the FOX news article, did you?
Did you ever watch the news or read about this story before coming here to getbig?
Or do you learn by error? I'm cool if that's what you're going for. You're a blind man sprinting in a small room, coach.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/12/king-nelson-schiff-suggest-orlando-shooter-had-ties-to-radical-islam.html
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/12/king-nelson-schiff-suggest-orlando-shooter-had-ties-to-radical-islam.html
Here is the SAME INFO from Fox News.
You stepped in shit on this one, Coach. Just say "Oh, I was wrong, I didn't know how that list worked" and eat some oatmeal, man. Shitting on the source when you're clearly wrong is uncomfortable for everyone reading this. The clock has expired, you lost by 2 TDs, and you're still throwing a challenge flag.
240, do you think behind closed doors, Obama is fighting terrorism? In other words, he may not acknowledge that it's radical islam out in the open, but do you think his actions speak otherwise? What is your opinion on this? Is this a military tactic?
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If he was removed then how in the fuck do they know he's been investigated?
We know because, today, an FBI spokesman told us exactly that, as the story from FOX news tells us.
Do you seriously have a daily quota of number of items you'll be wrong about? I'd say you're overperforming today. Way to go, corky.
Corky is Back.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/12/king-nelson-schiff-suggest-orlando-shooter-had-ties-to-radical-islam.html
FBI agent Ron Hopper identified the suspect as Omar Mir Sadiq Mateen, 29, of Port St. Lucie, Fla.
Mateen early Sunday morning killed 50 and wounded 53 others inside the gay nightclub Pulse. He later died in a shootout with police after holding dozens of hostages for several hours.
Hopper told reporters at a press conference in Orlando that the FBI first became aware of Mateen in 2013, after he made inflammatory comments to coworkers alleging possible terrorist ties.
He said the agency thoroughly investigated the matter -- including conducting surveillance, checking records and interviewing Mateen and witnesses.
However, the case was closed because agents could not verify the “substance” of Mateen’s claims, Hopper said.
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240, do you think behind closed doors, Obama is fighting terrorism? In other words, he may not acknowledge that it's radical islam out in the open, but do you think his actions speak otherwise? What is your opinion on this? Is this a military tactic?
fck no. I think he's okay with it. I think, just like benghazi, obama would rather LET some attack happen, instead of crushing the bad guys. I think he's soft on terror, and I think hilary is too. I am confused as to what Trump would even do differently. He hasn't shown us any actual policies of A, B, C that would have stopped today's guy.
Aside from his Palin tactic of predicting everything, then throwing himself a victory tweet when he gets it right about dead Americans, he hasn't shown us any solutions he would deliver to stop home-grown bad guys.
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Orlando gunman tied to radical imam released from prison last year, say law enforcement sources
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html
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fck no. I think he's okay with it. I think, just like benghazi, obama would rather LET some attack happen, instead of crushing the bad guys. I think he's soft on terror, and I think hilary is too. I am confused as to what Trump would even do differently. He hasn't shown us any actual policies of A, B, C that would have stopped today's guy.
Aside from his Palin tactic of predicting everything, then throwing himself a victory tweet when he gets it right about dead Americans, he hasn't shown us any solutions he would deliver to stop home-grown bad guys.
Why do you think he is soft on terror? You need to at least provide some justification for your statement.
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Orlando gunman tied to radical imam released from prison last year, say law enforcement sources
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html
You're changing the subject now, because you don't like being raped without lube.
You were completely wrong about the FBI & watch list claims. So you found an unrelated article and you want to talk about that now.
The shooter was on a list. The FBI let him off the list. I'm all for deporting or hanging him, but the FBI found nothing and let him go.
What would YOU have done with an american citizen who broke no laws, in 2015, when you know he's shady, but has done no crime? Let's hear your solution. DOnt just bitch about the problem. Tell us the solution, coach.
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Why do you think he is soft on terror? You need to at least provide some justification for your statement.
I think he could have crushed most of ISIS by now, but he's leaving their energy, infrastructure in place so that whoever comes next isn't living in the 1500s.
Blow up everything, ala iraq shock and awe, kills ISIS. But it turns the place into 70 million people living in the stone age again.... which means less $, less trade, less "democracy".
Obama goes easy on them. Doenst want to wreck the country they live in. That's why.
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I think he could have crushed most of ISIS by now, but he's leaving their energy, infrastructure in place so that whoever comes next isn't living in the 1500s.
Blow up everything, ala iraq shock and awe, kills ISIS. But it turns the place into 70 million people living in the stone age again.... which means less $, less trade, less "democracy".
Obama goes easy on them. Doenst want to wreck the country they live in. That's why.
I don't agree with that at all.
The Pentagon Says It Has Killed 20,000 ISIS Fighters in just over a year alone.
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Why do you think he is soft on terror?
I'm sorry but this is a silly question. Anyone who has paid even the least bit of attention the last 8 years would know why people consider Obama soft on terrorism.
He is reluctant to even call it by name. How can you fight it if you won't even identify it?
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I'm sorry but this is a silly question. Anyone who has paid even the least bit of attention the last 8 years would know why people consider Obama soft on terrorism.
He is reluctant to even call it by name. How can you fight it if you won't even identify it?
I think 240 provided a pretty sound answer.
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I want to see america be a safer place. But I want answers from our leaders. hilary's statement was canned shit. The same speech everyone always uses. Trump just took the chance to shit on hilary and pat himself on the back.
What I didn't hear ANY person say today was "I'll do these 5 things to stop people like this from doing this". nobody could say that. that is the answer I want. I don't have a side here - I think trump and hilary are both full of shit.
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I want to see america be a safer place. But I want answers from our leaders. hilary's statement was canned shit. The same speech everyone always uses. Trump just took the chance to shit on hilary and pat himself on the back.
What I didn't hear ANY person say today was "I'll do these 5 things to stop people like this from doing this". nobody could say that. that is the answer I want. I don't have a side here - I think trump and hilary are both full of shit.
I agree but part of the problem is that there isn't much a politician(or anyone else) can do to stop these crazy zealots. You can't watch everyone and you can't take someones constitutional rights away just because you think they might be up to something(at least you aren't supposed to). Also, cops are good at coming in after a crime and figuring out what happened. They are not good at preventing crime or stopping crimes in progress.
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Shooter was in the club for over 3 hours.
Police response time and action time needs to be looked at. Imagine dying after 3 hours of waiting for police to rush the place. That's not right. I know they gotta be safe, but 180 minutes of planning? Just get in there faster.
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Shooter was in the club for over 3 hours.
Police response time and action time needs to be looked at. Imagine dying after 3 hours of waiting for police to rush the place. That's not right. I know they gotta be safe, but 180 minutes of planning? Just get in there faster.
240, what would be the standard time for entering a hostage situation? 60 minutes? 90 minutes?
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"acknowledging" radical islam is something that us officials do not do, and have not done for decades all the way back to george bush. yes we are at the point where crazies claim george bush is soft on terror. oh brother...there's a simple reason for this. the jihadis claim the west is at war with islam so open declarations to this effect feed that narrative. this is why you get the CIA director saying trump is a great recruiting tool for isis.
the key to figuring these things out is to actually consider the consequences of ones actions.
again the best way to reduce terrorism is to stop participating in it.
:)
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Shooter was in the club for over 3 hours.
Police response time and action time needs to be looked at. Imagine dying after 3 hours of waiting for police to rush the place. That's not right. I know they gotta be safe, but 180 minutes of planning? Just get in there faster.
also, it is a little weird that the people in the club could not take him down when he was reloading or changing weapons.
But I guess people panic, that is human. :'(
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So when am I going to be able to have that translucent American Flag background for my Facebook profile, just like France got for their nightclub shooting? ???
(http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/1374114845584-vi1.jpg)
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Have no love for sodomites, but this is not how one deals with them.
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You'll never stop crazies entirely and in a free society there will be incidents like this. This is a tragic event. Maybe it could've been prevented and maybe not but overall these specific events will stop in the US the day after the mid east runs out
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So when am I going to be able to have that translucent American Flag background for my Facebook profile, just like France got for their nightclub shooting? ???
(http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/1374114845584-vi1.jpg)
You need a hashtag to show solidarity. Something like #Iamgay
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Have no love for sodomites, but this is not how one deals with them.
Agreed.
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I want to see america be a safer place. But I want answers from our leaders. hilary's statement was canned shit. The same speech everyone always uses. Trump just took the chance to shit on hilary and pat himself on the back.
What I didn't hear ANY person say today was "I'll do these 5 things to stop people like this from doing this". nobody could say that. that is the answer I want. I don't have a side here - I think trump and hilary are both full of shit.
Trump has already said he wants all radical mosques on watch and a domestic intelligence service for it
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Have no love for sodomites, but this is not how one deals with them.
Falco walking the razor's edge between Islamic Fundamentalism and fudge packing.
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#alohasnackbar
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You need a hashtag to show solidarity. Something like #Iamgay
#iamgaynohomo
???
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just watched an american dr charles galagher speaking on UK news(talked a lot of sense). he said the way this will be spun in the US media is that it has nothing to do with gun control and is just a problem with radical islam. he reckons this will likely lead to a spike in people rushing out to buy even more guns to protect themselves from the terrorist threat.
oh well countdown already underway to next random nutcase massacre...i'm thinking of running a book on race of next perp.... 9/4 against muslimic perp. 11/10 white yank. 7/4 any other denomination....get your money on peeps!
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just watched an american dr charles galagher speaking on UK news(talked a lot of sense). he said the way this will be spun in the US media is that it has nothing to do with gun control and is just a problem with radical islam. he reckons this will likely lead to a spike in people rushing out to buy even more guns to protect themselves from the terrorist threat.
oh well countdown already underway to next random nutcase massacre...i'm thinking of running a book on race of next perp.... 9/4 against muslimic perp. 11/10 white yank. 7/4 any other denomination....get your money on peeps!
odds look about right to me
btw your offenses against parker will never be forgotten
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Another nail in the NRA's coffin. Another reason the government has to disarm our citizens. Next will be door to door kick ins and martial law. ISIS...born in the works of the CIA black ops.
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#iamgaynohomo
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Hmmm no no I think the disclaimer reduces the sincerity.
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I can no longer tell my favorite joke...
So, a radical muslim walks into a gay bar... blah blah blah... "round of shots for everyone, allahu fag-bar!"
:D :D :D
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Trump has already said he wants all radical mosques on watch and a domestic intelligence service for it
I like the idea of better surveillance. Which are currently the radical ones that we don't watch?
Will there be a "religion monitoring agency" for other religions, and will it be a requirement whenever there's a violent act by ones of its members?
I like the idea of change - I want to hear trump tell us 10 minutes of details, not ten seconds.
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President Obama is on TV now, Live, discussing this event
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LOL @ logic: "So, muslims are commiting hate crimes in record numbers and christians are persecuted in record numbers world wide, hmmmm.... I guess we need to bann EVERY religion, especially christianity.... but maby talk about islams controversey, maby"
Fucking idiots some of you.
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I want to see america be a safer place. But I want answers from our leaders. hilary's statement was canned shit. The same speech everyone always uses. Trump just took the chance to shit on hilary and pat himself on the back.
What I didn't hear ANY person say today was "I'll do these 5 things to stop people like this from doing this". nobody could say that. that is the answer I want. I don't have a side here - I think trump and hilary are both full of shit.
Trump gave answers and you threw a fit. Build a wall, keep muzzies out until we have a thorough way to background check them.
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Trump gave answers and you threw a fit. Build a wall, keep muzzies out until we have a thorough way to background check them.
the wall
it's not coming
hope this helps
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http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-snapchat-inside-pulse/ (http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-snapchat-inside-pulse/)
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He was investigated twice, and the FBI found nothing and dropped it. 2013 and 2014. He was cleared.
You're kinda ignorant on this issue, aren't you?
How is a person "stopped" when the FBI does its job and discovers nothing? Explain.
Just because he was "cleared" and it dropped doesn't mean they forget otherwise his name wouldn't have kept coming up....
"In May 2013, co-workers at the courthouse reported Mateen had claimed he had family connections to Al Qaeda and had relatives who were in Hezbollah, two groups that are opposed to ISIS, FBI Director James Comey said. He also told colleagues that he hoped law enforcement would raid his home and assault his wife and child "so he could martyr himself," Comey said.
The FBI investigated, using informants, recording conversations with Mateen, and interviewing him twice, Comey said. Mateen admitted making the statements to his colleagues, but said it was because he was angry they were teasing him for being Muslim. The probe ended in May 2014.
Two months later, in July 2014, Mateen's name came up during an investigation of a Fort Pierce man, Moner Mohammad Abu-Salha, a Palestinian-American who carried out a suicide attack in Syria on behalf of the Al-Nusra front, according to The Associated Press. Comey confirmed that account, but didn't identify the bomber, saying the two men knew each other "casually" from attending the same mosque. An investigation determined there were no ties of any consequence, Comey said.
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Trump gave answers and you threw a fit. Build a wall, keep muzzies out until we have a thorough way to background check them.
This shooter in ORL was born in New York. A wall doesn't stop him.
How does any Trump proposed policy stop the Orlando shooter?
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Just because he was "cleared" and it dropped doesn't mean they forget otherwise his name wouldn't have kept coming up....
So you want to change "On the terror list" topic into "if they'll still remember him".
That's what I'd do also, if I was ranting about a topic without learning the actual details. Good call.
Dude, you said people don't get off the terror watchlist. I showed you the FBI spokesman in the LA Times explaining that he did. SO, you decided to accuse the LA Times of just "making up" a quote by the FBI. So I showed you the exact quote from FOX News. You went silent, as you always do, then you showed back up this morning declaring what YOU *meant* was that they'll remember in their heads. Yeah. Don't do that.
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This shooter in ORL was born in New York. A wall doesn't stop him.
How does any Trump proposed policy stop the Orlando shooter?
Might have stopped his parents.
Can't stop people already here without surveillance.
How do YOU propose to stop them? You ask tons of questions and pick apart answers without offering your own solutions.
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Fucked up that the victims can be fired according to Florida law
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Might have stopped his parents.
Can't stop people already here without surveillance.
How do YOU propose to stop them? You ask tons of questions and pick apart answers without offering your own solutions.
A wall is pointless. His parents could either flight in or take a boat.
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So you want to change "On the terror list" topic into "if they'll still remember him".
That's what I'd do also, if I was ranting about a topic without learning the actual details. Good call.
Dude, you said people don't get off the terror watchlist. I showed you the FBI spokesman in the LA Times explaining that he did. SO, you decided to accuse the LA Times of just "making up" a quote by the FBI. So I showed you the exact quote from FOX News. You went silent, as you always do, then you showed back up this morning declaring what YOU *meant* was that they'll remember in their heads. Yeah. Don't do that.
you seem to be seeking intellegence in all the wrong places -
leave the coach alone
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Might have stopped his parents.
Shooter's dad is on TV saying he's so sorry, he would have stopped the kid himself.
Can't stop people already here without surveillance.
We are 21 trillion in debt. 1% of our population is muslim. I'm not sure we have the money to put eyes 24/7 on even a fraction of them, but I'm cool with it. Maybe use that top 1% tax cut $ on it.
How do YOU propose to stop them? You ask tons of questions and pick apart answers without offering your own solutions.
I'm glad you asked. I'd use the PUBLIC to investigate. If a person is traveling to saudi arabia twice and attends shady mosque and looks to be a threat in 2013 and 2014 as this cat was, then put his ass on BLAST. Make it so EVERY employer - particularly the security firm that hired his ass - KNOWS that he's been overseas and is likely a bad guy.
Make the list public, with addresses. Sure, you'll have some hate going on, but if the person is legal with nothing to hide, he can state that publicly as part of the record. Make polygraphs a part of it. If a person can pass bi-annual polygraphs saying he's not working for any terror goals, you post that too. But you make that shit public. That's one idea, and I can do more if you're interested.
anyway, I'm not running for prez, my job isn't to solve these problems. Trump wants to be prez, so does hilary, let's hear their solutions. Something more specific than "a wall to keep their ancestors out!"
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Fucked up that the victims can be fired according to Florida law
explain, please.
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29 people still in hospital, 5 are still in grave conditions
http://www.kltv.com/story/32205309/the-latest-5-victims-in-grave-condition-at-hospital (http://www.kltv.com/story/32205309/the-latest-5-victims-in-grave-condition-at-hospital)
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explain, please.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/06/13/3787664/lgbt-protection-orlando-shooting/
In florida, you can be fired for being gay.
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Fox News reporting at hospital said that the Hospital is saying a lot of the shot Victims could have been saved if they had brought them in much sooner
i guess waiting 3 hours to storm the building cost many of the victims their lives by bleeding out for 3 hours
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Fox News reporting at hospital said that the Hospital is saying a lot of the shot Victims could have been saved if they had brought them in much sooner
i guess waiting 3 hours to storm the building cost many of the victims their lives by bleeding out for 3 hours
I know the police have more info than we do, etc....
but the outcome was the same as if they had just rushed his ass immediately. Supposedly they breached, then retreated, waited 3 hours while he chatted it up, then they finally rushed in when he started popping people again? (latest explanation)
I'd be SO pissed if I'm bleeding from the foot and after 3 hours, I lose the leg, or die, because their strategy was to talk this guy down.
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http://uproxx.com/news/hillary-clinton-ar-15-ban-assault-weapons/2
FAT HILLCUNT calling for ban on AR15
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http://uproxx.com/news/hillary-clinton-ar-15-ban-assault-weapons/2
FAT HILLCUNT calling for ban on AR15
Clinton Campaign Ban AR-15
Trump Campaign Ban Muslims
Which agenda do you think American will lean towards come ballot time ???
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November 8, 2016
Muslims Vs. AR-15
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I know the police have more info than we do, etc....
but the outcome was the same as if they had just rushed his ass immediately. Supposedly they breached, then retreated, waited 3 hours while he chatted it up, then they finally rushed in when he started popping people again? (latest explanation)
I'd be SO pissed if I'm bleeding from the foot and after 3 hours, I lose the leg, or die, because their strategy was to talk this guy down.
Hypothetical situations.
The shooter may have shot you dead when the cops rushed in.
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Hypothetical situations.
The shooter may have shot you dead when the cops rushed in.
Maybe. But there are many hostage, there are many cops coming in, and there is only one shooter.
I'll take the chance that he pops me as his last action, given those odds. He shot one cop in helmet (bounced off kevlar hemlet). Although now we hear "The shooter climbed out of the hole the police made", which tells me he was *done* in the bathroom at that point.
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The fact this person was known to make statements in support of terrorism and terrorists (his original appearance on the radar), was known to be in possession of a firearm as a guard, and also his age, his ethnicity, and the rantings of his father, should have caused him to remain as a subject of investigation. How many comparable people could there be in this nation, for our heavily-funded post-911 security agencies to handle?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to distance themselves from it, owing to some knowledge that his communications and other related data spelled out that he was due to commit a big crime.
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The fact this person was known to make statements in support of terrorism and terrorists (his original appearance on the radar), was known to be in possession of a firearm as a guard, and also his age, his ethnicity, and the rantings of his father, should have caused him to remain as a subject of investigation. How many comparable people could there be in this nation, for our heavily-funded post-911 security agencies to handle?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to distance themselves from it, owing to some knowledge that his communications and other related data spelled out that he was due to commit a big crime.
We can blame the FBI for deciding to clear him, after their 2 investigations. I'd be interested in seeing what all he did - travel to S.A. twice, etc - that got him on the list.
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Might have stopped his parents.
BTW, he was 29, born in the US. His parents were allowed in by Reagan. For helping in the US proxy war against the Soviets.
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We can blame the FBI for deciding to clear him, after their 2 investigations. I'd be interested in seeing what all he did - travel to S.A. twice, etc - that got him on the list.
I'll tell you right now, it appears they are intentionally leaving us at the mercy of nuts like this. They want to see terror take place and this is the method.
We need an outside force to examine everything from the ground up, because it appears a very nasty game is being played on the public.
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I'll tell you right now, it appears they are intentionally leaving us at the mercy of nuts like this. They want to see terror take place and this is the method.
We need an outside force to examine everything from the ground up, because it appears a very nasty game is being played on the public.
Imagine the findings of an indepdent investigator.
"Why was this man removed from the list, whose call was it, why did no alert happen when he bought an AR15 this week", etc
It'll never happen.
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I'll tell you right now, it appears they are intentionally leaving us at the mercy of nuts like this. They want to see terror take place and this is the method.
We need an outside force to examine everything from the ground up, because it appears a very nasty game is being played on the public.
Bwahahah US gun laws bwahaha
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Imagine the findings of an indepdent investigator.
"Why was this man removed from the list, whose call was it, why did no alert happen when he bought an AR15 this week", etc
It'll never happen.
Just like 9/11, the claim is always "security". IOW: We won't explain, and we won't explain why we won't explain. Furthermore, we won't explain the reason why we can't say the reason why we won't explain.
Seriously, that is exactly what happened. Not a word of it could stand under direct scrutiny, of course. It appears to have been a coup of sorts, where a great deal of power went into an unknown, unquestionable force that is beyond reach of the public. It circumvented democracy on every level, and that fact should scare the shit out of everyone.
Can't see how it will end well, really. That's why IMO we need to personally confront politicians and force them to return our country to us. I don't know of any other way to do it.
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Agreed.
You don't "deal" with them at all. Their sexual orientation is zero of your business. So unless some homo is grabbing at your balls without ofference, you leave him the heck alone and in peace.
You're a mental case.
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i read on the internet once that "assault rifle" is a made up classification by the anti gun lobby
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t's sick how every pussy and lobbyist is trying to used this shooting for personal gain. How about you just let the families and victims deal with this shit first.
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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/06/12/cnn-orlando-shooter-claimed-osama-bin-laden-uncle-911/ (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/06/12/cnn-orlando-shooter-claimed-osama-bin-laden-uncle-911/)
Omar claimed His Uncle was Osama Bin Laden
Old High School Classmates said during the 9/11 attach as they all watched it live on Tv he jumped and cheered and smiled when the 2nd plane hit the tower, he was later expelled from school for it.
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Shooter was body builder, guard; once wanted to be cop
Ben Fox and Mitch Weiss
FORT PIERCE, Fla. (AP) — He was a body builder and a security guard, a religious man who attended the local mosque and who at one point expressed interest in becoming a police officer, though he never pursued it.
Early Sunday, 29-year-old Omar Mateen gunned down 50 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, police said.
Mateen was the son of an Afghan immigrant who had a talk show in the United States, the nature of which was not entirely clear: A former Afghan official said the program was pro-Taliban and a former colleague said it was enthusiastically pro-American.
Mateen attended evening prayer services at the city's Islamic Center three to four times a week, most recently with his young son, said Imam Syed Shafeeq Rahman. Although he was not very social, he also showed no signs of violence, Rahman said. He said he last saw Mateen on Friday.
"When he finished prayer he would just leave," Rahman told The Associated Press. "He would not socialize with anybody. He would be quiet. He would be very peaceful."
He was also bipolar, Mateen's ex-wife, Sitora Yusufiy, told reporters in Boulder, Colorado.
"He was mentally unstable and mentally ill," Yusufiy said. Although records show the couple didn't divorce for two years after the marriage, Yusiufiy said she was actually only with Mateen for four months because he was abusive. She said he would not let her speak to her family and that family members had to come and literally pull her out of his arms.
Mateen opened fire early Sunday at the Pulse nightclub, killing 50 people and wounding more than 50 others before he was gunned down during an exchange of fire with SWAT team members, authorities said. They say Mateen pledged allegiance to the Islamic State in a call to 911 on the morning of the shooting.
Yusufiy said she was "devastated, shocked, started shaking and crying" when she heard about the shooting, but she attributed the violence to his mental illness, not any alliance with terrorist groups.
Rahman agreed.
"My personal opinion is that this has nothing to do with ISIS," he said.
Seddique Mir Mateen, the father of the alleged shooter, is a life insurance salesman who started a group in 2010 called Durand Jirga, Inc., according to Qasim Tarin, a businessman from California who was a Durand Jirga board member. The name refers to the Durand line, the long disputed border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Tarin said Seddique Mir Mateen had a television show on which they discussed issues facing Afghanistan.
"It's shocking," he said about the shooting. "(Omar Mateen's) father loves this country."
Some of Seddique Mir Mateen's shows were taped and later posted on YouTube. During one episode, a sign in the background read: "Long live the U.S.A! Long live Afghanistan. ... Afghans are the best friends to the U.S.A."
But a former Afghan official said the "Durand Jirga Show" appears on Payam-e-Afghan, a California-based channel that supports ethnic solidarity with the Afghan Taliban, which are mostly Pashtun. Viewers from Pashtun communities in the United States regularly call in to the channel to espouse support for Pashtun domination of Afghanistan over the nation's minorities, including Hazaras, Tajiks and Uzbeks, the official said.
The "Durand Jirga Show" expresses support for the Taliban, has an anti-Pakistan slant, complains about foreigners in Afghanistan and criticizes U.S. actions there, the official said. Seddique Mir Mateen lavished praise on current Afghan President Ashraf Ghani when he appeared on the show in January 2014, but he has since denounced the Ghani government, according to the official, who said that on Saturday, Seddique Mateen appeared on the show dressed in military fatigues and used his program to criticize the current Afghan government.
He also announced on that show that he would run in the next Afghan presidential election, said the official, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because he did not want to be linked to coverage of the shooting.
Omar Mateen had no criminal record, but Yusufiy said he owned a pistol. She said he wanted to be a police officer and had applied to the police academy. Mateen was a security guard at the G4S company, which identifies itself on its website as "the leading global integrated security company."
Authorities immediately began investigating whether the assault was an act of terrorism. A law enforcement official said the gunman made a 911 call from the nightclub professing allegiance to the leader of the Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The law enforcement official is familiar with the investigation but was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
The shooter in 2013 made inflammatory comments to co-workers, and Mateen was interviewed twice, FBI agent Ronald Hopper said. He called those interviews inconclusive. In 2014, Hopper said, officials found that Mateen had ties to an American suicide bomber. He described the contact as minimal, saying it did not constitute a threat at the time.
Mateen purchased at least two firearms legally within the last week or so, according to Trevor Velinor of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
Rahman said he knew Mateen and his family since the shooter was a young boy. Playful as a child, he became more serious as an adult, Rahman said. He spoke both English and Farsi, and at one point wanted to become a police officer but never pursued it, the imam said. He was also into body building. He was not, as far as the imam could see, someone who would ever commit such a gruesome act of mass violence.
The shooting "was totally unexpected," Rahman said.
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To our dimwitted totally ignorant anti-gun morons chiming in , 3 out of 4 of these rifles are in a " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration , please explain how a " new " Assault Weapons Ban would have prevented this? And which ones are in a ban configuration. I'll be waiting
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To our dimwitted totally ignorant anti-gun morons chiming in , 3 out of 4 of these rifles are in a " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration , please explain how a " new " Assault Weapons Ban would have prevented this? And which ones are in a ban configuration. I'll be waiting
ND, when you're alone, do you strap on all of your guns and stand in front of the mirror and say, "Yeah, I am a badass. No one is going to mess with me. Not even Hulkster."
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To our dimwitted totally ignorant anti-gun morons chiming in , 3 out of 4 of these rifles are in a " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration , please explain how a " new " Assault Weapons Ban would have prevented this? And which ones are in a ban configuration. I'll be waiting
nice fucking guns! Would it be possible for you to sell me even one via darkweb or something? there's plenty of ways to do this. How much would you ask from any of those guns, with all the additions that you may have to them?
rhetorically speaking of course, I'm not REAaaally asking for real, and we aren't REEEAaaally doing sales for real ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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ND, when you're alone, do you strap on all of your guns and stand in front of the mirror and say, "Yeah, I am a badass. No one is going to mess with me. Not even Hulkster."
I say " Dorian is better and you'll agree with me ONE way or another " >:(
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nice fucking guns! Would it be possible for you to sell me even one via darkweb or something? there's plenty of ways to do this. How much would you ask from any of those guns, with all the additions that you may have to them?
rhetorically speaking of course, I'm not REAaaally asking for real, and we aren't REEEAaaally doing sales for real ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
You can just buy a ghost gun ;D
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I'll tell you right now, it appears they are intentionally leaving us at the mercy of nuts like this. They want to see terror take place and this is the method.
We need an outside force to examine everything from the ground up, because it appears a very nasty game is being played on the public.
Exxxactly.
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nice fucking guns! Would it be possible for you to sell me even one via darkweb or something? there's plenty of ways to do this. How much would you ask from any of those guns, with all the additions that you may have to them?
rhetorically speaking of course, I'm not REAaaally asking for real, and we aren't REEEAaaally doing sales for real ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Haha :D
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You can just buy a ghost gun ;D
stop playing :P
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the shooter had been to the gay club several times before while being drunk. Repressed homosexuality of peace!
http://time.com/4367566/orlando-shooting-pulse-nightclub-omar-mateen
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Ha! Ha!
This is great. ;D
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You don't "deal" with them at all. Their sexual orientation is zero of your business. So unless some homo is grabbing at your balls without ofference, you leave him the heck alone and in peace.
You're a mental case.
You'll be burning in hell right along with them. Keep that mind. You're the mental case trying to normalize a mental illness you deranged old bastard. Go find one of these homo cocks and sit on it.
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At least Wiggs doesn't cherry pick the bible. Most jews and christians do.
Those LGBT idiots in the above pics are quran illiterate and have no idea what they are defending. People really need to take a good look and study at what they really purport to believe and defend, even if they are being peaceful.
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You'll be burning in hell right along with them. Keep that mind. You're the mental case trying to normalize a mental illness you deranged old bastard. Go find one of these homo cocks and sit on it.
Easy there, Cartman. No one here is ever going to respect your booblical awth-or-eh-tye. If anyone is a pot calling a kettle hebroe, it be ya'll.
'N' sheit.
You are so stupid.
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Those LGBT idiots in the above pics are quran illiterate and have no idea what they are defending. People really need to take a good look and study at what they really purport to believe and defend, even if they are being peaceful.
have you ever read the Old Testament ?
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have you ever read the Old Testament ?
Next to Wiggs, you are the absolute biggest whiner on here. Run along now and quit bothering the adults. And you are no match for the likes of Genova or even Wiggs, so don't go there with me.
Lord, I've know plenty of homosexual men as friends and mere acquaintances/co-workers and none of them were the pathetic little bottom bitch you are on here. If you're this way in the real world, I doubt you have anyone in your pathetic imitation of life.
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have you ever read the Old Testament ?
yes I have
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Next to Wiggs, you are the absolute biggest whiner on here. Run along now and quit bothering the adults. And you are no match for the likes of Genova or even Wiggs, so don't go there with me.
Lord, I've know plenty of homosexual men as friends and mere acquaintances/co-workers and none of them were the pathetic little bottom bitch you are on here. If you're this way in the real world, I doubt you have anyone in your pathetic imitation of life.
I have gay friends and co workers, some are queeny, a lot are manly as fuck. I think the thing us straights forget about gays is that sex is just one aspect of a person. They arnt always the stereotype. Aka bottom bitch queen like Melvin.
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have you ever read the Old Testament ?
Yes. Have you read the New Testament? Era of grace?
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At least Wiggs doesn't cherry pick the bible. Most jews and christians do.
Those LGBT idiots in the above pics are quran illiterate and have no idea what they are defending. People really need to take a good look and study at what they really purport to believe and defend, even if they are being peaceful.
If the average person knew even a little about Islam, its factual history, its prophet, and the endless hate speech found in the Qu'ran, the non-Muslim world would be in colossally better shape.
Tell you this. Gays wouldn't defend it.
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have you ever read the Old Testament ?
Thanks for pointing out the book has been revamped into a less savage work of fiction.
Not that I'm defending ANY religion, of course. It's all bunk for morons and weaklings.
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was the shooter a getbigger?
his ex wife said he used steroids and was into BB
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was the shooter a getbigger?
his ex wife said he used steroids and was into BB
He was gay and on the downlow. You can't make this shit up.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
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He was gay and on the downlow. You can't make this shit up.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
so it was gay lovers quarrel ???
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He was gay and on the downlow. You can't make this shit up.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
His behavior can be summed by the defense mechanism, Reaction Formation
"An important method of transforming uncomfortable or unacceptable feelings into something more manageable is 'reaction formation', which is the superficial adoption and exaggeration of ideas and impulses that are diametrically opposed to one's own."
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so it was gay lovers quarrel ???
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I believe self hating gay because he wasn't fabulous and no body want to fuck him.
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I believe self hating gay because he wasn't fabulous and no body want to fuck him.
Kind of went Colonel Fitts in American Beauty after he stepped into the dark side
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Yes. Have you read the New Testament? Era of grace?
Yes, I have. Nice story. Not gospel fact.
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Yes, I have. Nice story. Not gospel fact.
Explain your statement
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He was gay and on the downlow. You can't make this shit up.
I figured that as soon as his father said he got very upset when he saw two guys kissing. Straight guys comfortable in their own sexuality don't get violently upset by other people's personal displays of affection.
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Explain your statement
A story based on a few historical facts, embellished with tales of the supernatural. Fiction, Fantasy.
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His behavior can be summed by the defense mechanism, Reaction Formation
"An important method of transforming uncomfortable or unacceptable feelings into something more manageable is 'reaction formation', which is the superficial adoption and exaggeration of ideas and impulses that are diametrically opposed to one's own."
Well I think he may have overreacted a little.
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Allahpuke was likely not gay. I'd suggest he visited the club to both stoke his fires of hatred (motivate himself) and scope out its general layout.
At one point a colleague heard him say he hoped his home would be stormed by law enforcement and wife (ex) and children assaulted, so he could martyr himself.
He wanted to make a statement for Islam and ramped himself up for an event.
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For 3 years?
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Well I think he may have overreacted a little.
The defense mechanism "Reaction Formation" doesn't state the extent to which someone may inhibit impulses or wishes for more appropriate actions (in their worldview), i.e., it doesn't state how strongly the reaction formation will be manifested. In some people who are covertly gay, it may be manifested by hateful speech or behavior toward gay people (protesting, etc). In more extreme cases of RF, they kill 50 people.
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The defense mechanism "Reaction Formation" doesn't state the extent to which someone may inhibit impulses or wishes for more appropriate actions (in their worldview), i.e., it doesn't state how strongly the reaction formation will be manifested. In some people who are covertly gay, it may be manifested by hateful speech or behavior toward gay people (protesting, etc). In more extreme cases of RF, they kill 50 people.
So Hitler just had a bad case of reaction formation?
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For 3 years?
Sure. The intensity of hatred and fury of belief is often elevated to homicidal levels over several years.
Or maybe he was just a closeted gay. And being a filthy Muscum, these impulses were unacceptable. He decided to appease both his esteem and his sky wizard by taking out homosexuals, knowing he'd be done dead, too. He'd achieve martyrdom and relieve his feelings of personal disgust.
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Allahpuke was likely not gay. I'd suggest he visited the club to both stoke his fires of hatred (motivate himself) and scope out its general layout.
At one point a colleague heard him say he hoped his home would be stormed by law enforcement and wife (ex) and children assaulted, so he could martyr himself.
He wanted to make a statement for Islam and ramped himself up for an event.
I may disagree with this, though its impossible to say if he was gay or not. Some people may hate who they are so much, that they go to extreme lengths to cover it up. This is not uncommon in the African-American scene, where gay black men will visit gay bars or clubs at night. However, during the day, they make take on extreme forms of a macho attitude, in order to cover up the fact that they are gay. Its called "Down-Low."
So, to say he was LIKELY not gay, I believe, is incorrect. I mean, I don't know if he was gay or not. I guess we will never know, however, it is entirely plausible that he was.
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Or maybe he was just a closeted gay. And being a filthy Muscum, these impulses were unacceptable. He decided to appease both his esteem and his sky wizard by taking out homosexuals, knowing he'd be done dead, too. He'd achieve martyrdom and relieve his feelings of personal disgust.
This seems likely to me.
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Some people may hate who they are so much, that they go to extreme lengths to cover it up. This is not uncommon in the African-American scene, where gay black men will visit gay bars or clubs at night. However, during the day, they make take on extreme forms of a macho attitude, in order to cover up the fact that they are gay. Its called "Down-Low."
congressmen and pastors too. condemn gays by day, grindr by night
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the killer had used gay dating app:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-20160613-snap-story.html
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The ex-wife of Orlando mass killer Omar Mateen claimed Monday that she believed he was homosexual — as it was revealed that he frequented the gay nightclub where he staged the nation’s worst massacre in modern times.
Sitora Yusufiy, who was married to Mateen in 2009 for three months, made the shocking claim on Brazilian television station SBT Brazil.
Her fiancé, Marco Dias, speaking in Portuguese on her behalf, said that Yusufiy believed that Mateen had “gay tendencies” and that his father had called him gay in front of her. Dias also claimed “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.”
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The bombshell came as a male former classmate of Omar Mateen said he had been asked out romantically by the mass killer, who reportedly was a virtual regular at the Pulse nightclub, having visited it more than a dozen times over the years.
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The former classmate said he would hang out with Mateen, hitting gay bars after attending class at Indian River Community College police academy in 2006 — and one time Mateen asked him out “romantically,” according to the Palm Beach Post.
“We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,” the former classmate told the paper.
The classmate told the paper he thought the killer, who pledged allegiance to ISIS before killing 49 at the Pulse gay nightclub, was gay and in the closet.
The classmate’s claims came after reports emerged that Mateen frequented the club for years before Sunday’s massacre.
“It’s the same guy,” Chris Callen, a drag queen who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, told the Canadian Press. “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”
Callen’s husband, Ty Smith, recalled seeing Mateen being escorted drunk from the club.
“Sometimes he . . . would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” he told the Orlando Sentinel.
At least four Pulse club-goers remembered seeing Mateen at least a dozen times in the past. But authorities said they had no further information when asked about the sightings on Monday. NBC reported that the FBI was looking into his alleged club visits.
“[He’d get] really, really drunk,” Smith told the Canadian Press. “He couldn’t drink when he was at home — around his wife, or family. His father was really strict . . . He used to bitch about it.”
Callen and Smith said they both stopped speaking to Mateen when he threatened them with a knife, after someone made a joke about religion.
“He ended up pulling a knife,” Callen explained. “He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it’ll turn out.”
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Sitora Yusify is seen with her fiance Marco Dias at their home outside Boulder, Colorado on Sunday, June 12, 2016.Photo: AP
They also shot down claims that Mateen had snapped after seeing two men kissing each other in public.
“That’s bullcrap, right there. No offense. That’s straight-up crap. He’s been around us,” Smith said. “Some of those people did a little more than (kiss) outside the bar…He was partying with the people who supposedly drove him to do this?”
Kevin West, another regular at Pulse, told the Los Angeles Times that Mateen used gay dating apps on a regular basis and even messaged him on the gay dating app, Jack’d.
He even saw Mateen an hour before the shooting.
“He walked directly past me. I said, ‘Hey,’ and he turned and said, ‘Hey,’ ” and nodded his head, recalled West. “I could tell by the eyes [it was him].”
One Orlando man, who refused to be named, told MSNBC that he had seen photos of Mateen on several gay dating apps, including Grindr, Adam4Adam, and Jack’d. He claimed that at least two of the man’s friends had been contacted by Mateen on the apps in the past.
“He was very creepy in his messages, and I blocked him immediately,” the man said.
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I just leaned that my bro and his family were in Orlando at Disneyworld last weekend.
Fuckng scary this loser almost shot up Disneyworld. :(
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Well then what is this whores solution?
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Very convenient to say he was gay (and probably had self-loathing issues) as that would take attention away from him being a member of or affiliated with ISIS.
the killer had used gay dating app:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-20160613-snap-story.html
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Very convenient to say he was gay (and probably had self-loathing issues) as that would take attention away from him being a member of or affiliated with ISIS.
most of these ultra religious types go on about hating women\gays so much it's a little wonder more of them aren't outed. Mind you i'm a Jew and i'll fully admit among the orthodox fellows in Brooklyn there's loads of them that pay to get fucked in the ass and even more paying to get bashed around by some dominatrix
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If he's gay, then it can't be a hate crime right? Like a black man killing a black man can't be a racist hate crime.
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If he's gay, then it can't be a hate crime right?
Only if you want it to be.
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Only if you want it to be.
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Like a black man killing a black man can't be a racist hate crime.
Shouldn't be a crime at all
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people on the no-fly and terror-watch list can currently walk into a gun store and order a case of AR-15s.
Think about that. Dems, obama, trump all agree with it. NRA and Senate Repubs are against it.
Someone is deemed too scary to fly... but they can buy a rifle. Unreal.
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people on the no-fly and terror-watch list can currently walk into a gun store and order a case of AR-15s.
Think about that. Dems, obama, trump all agree with it. NRA and Senate Repubs are against it.
Someone is deemed too scary to fly... but they can buy a rifle. Unreal.
Is there an actually Terror watch list? And how far does that list go? What I mean is how many white American cowboy types who live in Montana and have a massive amount of firearms in their home are on one of those watch "lists"? Can they put anyone on a list?
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people on the no-fly and terror-watch list can currently walk into a gun store and order a case of AR-15s.
Think about that. Dems, obama, trump all agree with it. NRA and Senate Repubs are against it.
Someone is deemed too scary to fly... but they can buy a rifle. Unreal.
Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.
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Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.
Yup this.
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Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.
Bearing arms is a right which is often taken from people. If you commit white-collar accounting crimes, you cannot own guns.
Yet if you stand up and claim to belong to isis, you can still buy guns. No limit, no holds, nothing.
It doesn't make sense to me. It's not a 1st amendment thing, it's a national security/ aid-and-assist-the-enemy thing while we are at war.
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Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.
If they pass a law that anyone on a watch list can't buy guns, they'll just put anyone they want on a "watch" list. Someone who buys say more than one gun could go on a watch list. And then being on a list they lose the right to bear arms. lol Slippery slope not unlike the Patriot act...
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If they pass a law that anyone on a watch list can't buy guns, they'll just put anyone they want on a "watch" list. Someone who buys say more than one guy could go on a watch list. And then being on a list they lose the right to bear arms. lol Slippery slope not unlike the Patriot act...
Agreed.
Bearing arms is a right which is often taken from people. If you commit white-collar accounting crimes, you cannot own guns.
Yet if you stand up and claim to belong to isis, you can still buy guns. No limit, no holds, nothing.
It doesn't make sense to me. It's not a 1st amendment thing, it's a national security/ aid-and-assist-the-enemy thing while we are at war.
To lose that right you must be found guilty of a felony... In a court of law.
Being placed on a list is arbitrary and you aren not found guilty of any crime to be placed on it.
You know this... I appreciate your trolling on this one, but there is a huge difference between being found guilty of a crime and being placed on some "list".
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Agreed.
To lose that right you must be found guilty of a felony... In a court of law.
Being placed on a list is arbitrary and you aren not found guilty of any crime to be placed on it.
You know this... I appreciate your trolling on this one, but there is a huge difference between being found guilty of a crime and being placed on some "list".
if a person makes a public statement supporting the enemy, then no crime conviction is needed. they are saying they'll help the enemy. as an issue of nat'l security, we have to believe them buying an AR-15 has a good chance of hurting our national security.
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if a person makes a public statement supporting the enemy, then no crime conviction is needed. they are saying they'll help the enemy. as an issue of nat'l security, we have to believe them buying an AR-15 has a good chance of hurting our national security.
Wrong!
That is not how our constitution works. I am allowed to SAY anything I want. (outside of threatening the POTUS) I am NOT allowed to DO anything I want.
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Wrong!
That is not how our constitution works. I am allowed to SAY anything I want. (outside of threatening the POTUS) I am NOT allowed to DO anything I want.
You're okay with dudes being able to hold daily anti-USA, pro-ISIS meetings, on US soil, then order crates of AR-15s... as long as they don't break any laws.
At what point are they aiding our enemy at time of war?
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Well then what is this whores solution?
I'd imagine most can approximate at the very least what she's implying and moving toward. Western society and non-Muslims need to better know and understand the absolute threat Islam presents.
That acknowledgement of such goes a long way to facilitate educated discussion of possible ways in which to thwart its ideologies and suppress any and all orthodox Islamic influence in non-Muslim lands.
To quit the PC/peace, tolerance and multiculturalism horseshit and face the uncomfortable truth.
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You're okay with dudes being able to hold daily anti-USA, pro-ISIS meetings, on US soil, then order crates of AR-15s... as long as they don't break any laws.
At what point are they aiding our enemy at time of war?
Interesting how you reach to extremes.
However, if my answer isn't clear enough... I will say again. In this country you can SAY whatever you want... It's when you DO something to others, that we have an issue.
You want to police people's thoughts also? Sounds like that's what you're trying to do. Why are you so interested in big brother telling you what to do?
PS... in 1776, they had meetings that were Anti-British... Those meetings created this country we live in today.
That's what makes this country so great.
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Have no love for sodomites, but this is not how one deals with them.
x2 Well Said.
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I was talking to a lesbian friend of mine about this Orlando massacre. About 5 seconds into the conversation she diverted the discussion to that white "privileged"(her word) college kid who raped the girl and then got a light sentence. I love her, but she sure has a funny way of seeing the world. Not to diminish the suffering of the girl that got raped but I would have though my friend would have had a stronger reaction to a bunch of folks like her getting wasted all at once. This gay club slaughter has created quite a predicament for gay liberals.
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and somebody on 4chan leaked a gay sex of the shooter :-\
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and somebody on 4chan leaked a gay sex of the shooter :-\
Wonder how his father is going to spin this
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Milo Yiannopoulos spitting that hot fire again. From his Twitter account....
"Liberals! If you're not horrified about gay men being thrown to their deaths for Islam, pretend they're throwing gorillas."
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not regularly, that is true but they share the same mindset
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sacramento-pastor-amid-backlash-defends-sermon-praising-orlando-killings/ar-AAh3LQO?ocid=mailsignout
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Milo Yiannopoulos spitting that hot fire again. From his Twitter account....
"Liberals! If you're not horrified about gay men being thrown to their deaths for Islam, pretend they're throwing gorillas."
Where are the "Liberals" who say they are not horrified by that?
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Wonder how his father is going to spin this
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The real crime here is that he stole Bob Chic's hair dye....
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Where are the "Liberals" who say they are not horrified by that?
I haven't heard any liberals mention this phenomenon at all. The silence it deafening.
The reaction to killing that stupid ape to save a child's life was overwhelming though. People lost their minds over that.
This just doesn't strike the same chord for some reason.
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Too busy calling Trump a racist and a homophobe to see the real evil.
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I haven't heard any liberals mention this phenomenon at all. The silence it deafening.
The reaction to killing that stupid ape to save a child's life was overwhelming though. People lost their minds over that.
This just doesn't strike the same chord for some reason.
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Too busy calling Trump a racist and a homophobe to see the real evil.
Let me see If I understand how your brain works
You can't find any liberals who are outraged by the killing of gay people thus you believe they are not outraged by it or even condone it
Is that how it works?
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is this you timfagery ???
A video posted by Facebook user Rob Buck on Tuesday shows someone looking completely innocent and then nonchalantly pulling an AR-15—which is of similar shape and size to the Sig Sauer MCX, according to The Washington Post—out of his waistband. "For the conspiracy theorist that say it can't be done," Buck captioned it.
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is this you timfagery ???
A video posted by Facebook user Rob Buck on Tuesday shows someone looking completely innocent and then nonchalantly pulling an AR-15—which is of similar shape and size to the Sig Sauer MCX, according to The Washington Post—out of his waistband. "For the conspiracy theorist that say it can't be done," Buck captioned it.
yeah, if you want to walk around like you just shitted your pants :D
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yeah, if you want to walk around like you just shitted your pants :D
yea he clearly didnt put more then 1 bullet in each magazine
when i sent to cancun mexico, i had about $2 in pesos and they kept sagging my pants i had to give the change away to poor kids, this guy had no belt on and his pants stayed up
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which of these strategies stops today's shooter?
NONE.
See, I'm all for stopping them. I'm all for doing what it takes. But this dude was born here, was under FBI investigation and it was dropped, and not until he called 911 and proclaimed it, did anyone know. Is this correct?
He was born here. Bought the guns legally. FBI looked twice and found nothing.
Closing borders and smacking those who talk about it wouldn't have stopped him.
What Trump policy, what ANY policy stops it?
FBI had him on the radar for two years. PC policies kept them from doing their job.
Same goes for his co-workers who knew this guy was a threat. They didn't want to turn him in, for fear of being labeled "Islamophobic".
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Let me see If I understand how your brain works
You can't find any liberals who are outraged by the killing of gay people thus you believe they are not outraged by it or even condone it
Is that how it works?
In the age of social media people raise a huge stink when they are profoundly moved by something. The dead ape and Cecil the lion really hit folks in the feels.
Phaggots getting tossed off of buildings? Not so much.
The Taliban gouges out a guys eyes and skins him alive? So what.
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They're just now slowing starting to open up Orange Ave. to normal traffic. When I went to the gym yesterday, I had to take the back roads to get there and it was half-full.....UNHEARD OF on a Monday.
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FBI had him on the radar for two years. PC policies kept them from doing their job.
Same goes for his co-workers who knew this guy was a threat. They didn't want to turn him in, for fear of being labeled "Islamophobic".
Specially what actions did the fbi want to take, which were denied?
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Specially what actions did the fbi want to take, which were denied?
If memory serves me correctly, they wanted to probe this guy further, perhaps even arrest him for his contacts with radical Imams.
This might clear it up a bit.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/14/why-the-fbi-dropped-the-investigation-of-omar-mateen/
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Specially what actions did the fbi want to take, which were denied?
Let me call down to FBI headquarters there and see if they'll just open the file and tell me that answer for you.
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Let me call down to FBI headquarters there and see if they'll just open the file and tell me that answer for you.
wow cool looking forward to getting the scoop on this!
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Let me call down to FBI headquarters there and see if they'll just open the file and tell me that answer for you.
wow cool looking forward to getting the scoop on this!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Wonder how his father is going to spin this
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/13/04/3531658A00000578-3637968-image-m-10_1465788529422.jpg)
Loved him in those "time to make the donuts" commercials
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is this you timfagery ???
A video posted by Facebook user Rob Buck on Tuesday shows someone looking completely innocent and then nonchalantly pulling an AR-15—which is of similar shape and size to the Sig Sauer MCX, according to The Washington Post—out of his waistband. "For the conspiracy theorist that say it can't be done," Buck captioned it.
Damn, this was a powerful, gripping, yet alarming video!!
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is this you timfagery ???
A video posted by Facebook user Rob Buck on Tuesday shows someone looking completely innocent and then nonchalantly pulling an AR-15—which is of similar shape and size to the Sig Sauer MCX, according to The Washington Post—out of his waistband. "For the conspiracy theorist that say it can't be done," Buck captioned it.
What is this twink trying to prove? He must want a totalitarian government that "protects" him and even wipes his ass for him.
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If memory serves me correctly, they wanted to probe this guy further, perhaps even arrest him for his contacts with radical Imams.
This might clear it up a bit.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/14/why-the-fbi-dropped-the-investigation-of-omar-mateen/
I get that the FBI didn't have enough to charge his ass in 2013/2014.
I understand that. Bad guys don't always make confessions to an undercover in a bar. It's very difficult to stop a crime before it happens AND bust the bad guy. I get that.
BUT I don't get why the FBI didn't do anything when they were told - 3 weeks ago by a store owner - that this dude was trying to buy bulk ammo and body armor. The store owner thought he was shady, so he REFUSED the sale and CALLED THE FBI.
If the feds have a guy on their radar for a year - and don't have enough - then they get new info, and don't act on it - that's doing a terrible job. I bet those agents had time to tweet, had time to take shits, had times to jerk off... but in those 21 days, couldn't interview the dude again, watch him, etc.
If he's planning an attack, and the feds stop in... they'll know pretty quick if it smells funny, they can watch him more, maybe stop it.
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You're okay with dudes being able to hold daily anti-USA, pro-ISIS meetings, on US soil, then order crates of AR-15s... as long as they don't break any laws.
At what point are they aiding our enemy at time of war?
Has the US made a formal declaration of war against IS?
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Has the US made a formal declaration of war against IS?
That would require congress to put down their mistresses and agree on something.
http://www.newsweek.com/address-obama-vows-overcome-terrorist-threat-401796
Bush declared war on Islamist terror on 9/20/2001. That's still in effect, since ISIS falls under that category.