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Title: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 12:09:30 PM
I’m sure we’ve splattered the G&O with tons of proof of voter fraud in favor of Biden. Mods, is there a way to create one big proof of fraud thread and combine it?


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/watch-live-usps-whistleblowers-come-forward-driver-delivered-hundreds-thousands-completed-ballots-across-three-state-lines/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Fortress on December 01, 2020, 12:12:41 PM
Trumpster!

The Deep State must be fully exposed in all its filthy ways.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 12:19:12 PM
Trumpster!

The Deep State must be fully exposed in all its filthy ways.

Win or lose they HAVE to be exposed. I’m beginning to believe there no such thing as an honest liberal
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 01, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
Win or lose they HAVE to be exposed. I’m beginning to believe there no such thing as an honest liberal

What kind of conservative are you? Neoconservative? Paleoconservative?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on December 01, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Win or lose they HAVE to be exposed. I’m beginning to believe there no such thing as an honest liberal


Coach, old glory holes Saggy is Straw's O R A N G E man  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 01, 2020, 01:26:11 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 01, 2020, 01:26:54 PM
I’m sure we’ve splattered the G&O with tons of proof of voter fraud in favor of Biden. Mods, is there a way to create one big proof of fraud thread and combine it?


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/watch-live-usps-whistleblowers-come-forward-driver-delivered-hundreds-thousands-completed-ballots-across-three-state-lines/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

You've splattered the G&O alright!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ThisisOverload on December 01, 2020, 01:32:00 PM
You've splattered the G&O alright!

If only we had a board just for politics.  ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 01, 2020, 01:33:07 PM
If only we had a board just for politics.  ;D

Maybe that will be Ron's hanukkah gift to getbig?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: IroNat on December 01, 2020, 02:58:14 PM
What kind of conservative are you? Neoconservative? Paleoconservative?

Does a paleoconservative only eat meat, nuts, and berries?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 01, 2020, 03:00:44 PM
I’m sure we’ve splattered the G&O with tons of proof of voter fraud in favor of Biden. Mods, is there a way to create one big proof of fraud thread and combine it?


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/watch-live-usps-whistleblowers-come-forward-driver-delivered-hundreds-thousands-completed-ballots-across-three-state-lines/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

now all THE TRAITOR'S lawyers have to do it go into court and allege fraud and prove it

So far they've done neither

BTW - The AG just said today that there is no fraud.   How soon before THE TRAITOR tweets him out of a job ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 03:03:47 PM
now all THE TRAITOR'S lawyers have to do it go into court and allege fraud and prove it

So far they've done neither

BTW - The AG just said today that there is no fraud.   How soon before THE TRAITOR tweets him out of a job ?

Quiet AOC. Who’s account are you sharing today?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: irishdave on December 01, 2020, 03:17:11 PM
#cnntapes

Recordings of zucker from CNN being released 7pm EST or midnight DUBLIN time

I’ll be awake
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: irishdave on December 01, 2020, 03:20:38 PM
Exposecnn.com
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 03:30:32 PM
What the leftist communist propaganda media failed to report....

“With all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation,” Rudy Giuliani, a Trump lawyer, and Jenna Ellis, a Trump campaign attorney, said in a joint statement. “We have gathered ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states, which they have not examined. We have many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. As far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the DOJ. The Justice Department also hasn’t audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth.”
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 01, 2020, 03:32:40 PM
What the leftist communist propaganda media failed to report....

“With all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation,” Rudy Giuliani, a Trump lawyer, and Jenna Ellis, a Trump campaign attorney, said in a joint statement. “We have gathered ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states, which they have not examined. We have many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. As far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the DOJ. The Justice Department also hasn’t audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth.”

and how the hell would Rudy know this?
He's not part of DOJ and is not privy to what they are doing

if they have "ample evidence" then why have the NEVER SUBMITTED IT IN COURT?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 03:36:30 PM
Soooooooooooo... much fraud that even Barr admits there is none.   

Yeah, you have plastered the front page of G&O alright... not with proof of fraud, but with evidence of a small mind meltdown.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 03:37:57 PM
Soooooooooooo... much fraud that even Barr admits there is none.   

Yeah, you have plastered the front page of G&O alright... not with proof of fraud, but with evidence of a small mind meltdown.

Read, tard
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 03:38:57 PM
and how the hell would Rudy know this?
He's not part of DOJ and is not privy to what they are doing

if they have "ample evidence" then why have the NEVER SUBMITTED IT IN COURT?

How would he know if the DOJ would be involved in his own investigation.....really? You’re asking that, really??? You really don’t think Trumps White House counsel wouldn’t know if the DOJ was involved? Lol
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 03:41:35 PM
Every day more evidence of Trump's delusions and failing attempt to stay in the WH become more clear.
Every day Coach puts in overtime work in pumping out the bullshit so he can believe otherwise.

To be continued tomorrow... and the next day... and the week after that... and 4 years from now.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 01, 2020, 03:46:59 PM
How would he know if the DOJ would be involved in his own investigation.....really? You’re asking that, really??? You really don’t think Trumps White House counsel wouldn’t know if the DOJ was involved? Lol

why would DOJ waste their time with THE TRAITORS idiot personal attorney

Guess what, Rudy's latest lie will go NOWHERE just like the other 30+ lawsuits in the past few weeks

It is fun as hell to watch you fall for it every single time
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 03:53:38 PM
Every day more evidence of Trump's delusions and failing attempt to stay in the WH become more clear.
Every day Coach puts in overtime work in pumping out the bullshit so he can believe otherwise.

To be continued tomorrow... and the next day... and the week after that... and 4 years from now.

What’s going to be hilarious is if Biden get in to just remind of what you voted for (you actually have no clue what you voted for). If Trump stays in, to say I can’t wait until your Marixist buddies from Antifa/BLM come in to our neighborhoods like they say. Saying it would be fun would be an understatement
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 03:55:42 PM
What’s going to be hilarious is if Biden get in to just remind of what you voted for (you actually have no clue what you voted for). If Trump stays in, to say I can’t wait until your Marixist buddies from Antifa/BLM come in to our neighborhoods like they say. Saying it would be fun would be an understatement

^^ Desperate fluff at pathetically attempting to calm your own insecurities.

It's going to be hilarious alright on January 20th to see all the whining and crying as Biden is sworn in.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 01, 2020, 03:58:01 PM
What’s going to be hilarious is if Biden get in to just remind of what you voted for (you actually have no clue what you voted for). If Trump stays in, to say I can’t wait until your Marixist buddies from Antifa/BLM come in to our neighborhoods like they say. Saying it would be fun would be an understatement

THE TRAITOR is GONE but it's fun that you think he still has a chance

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 03:59:47 PM
THE TRAITOR is GONE but it's fun that you think he still has a chance

Hahahahah. You actually think he’s going to leave if he didn’t stay in office 😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 04:00:30 PM
^^ Desperate fluff at pathetically attempting to calm your own insecurities.

It's going to be hilarious alright on January 20th to see all the whining and crying as Biden is sworn in.

Nope, I have a trip planned that week.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 01, 2020, 04:08:14 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 01, 2020, 04:11:17 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 01, 2020, 04:13:02 PM
@Straw, Lurker, Agnostic, Jago, Prime, etc.  It's time for us to admit it's over.  After this video, what more do we need?   :D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 01, 2020, 04:17:20 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 01, 2020, 04:38:08 PM

are these people sworn in? is this under threat of perjury?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Body-Buildah on December 01, 2020, 04:50:12 PM
@Straw, Lurker, Agnostic, Jago, Prime, etc.  It's time for us to admit it's over.  After this video, what more do we need?   :D

Abe, you may dislike Trump and are probably on the left, but you seem very normal (for GetBig :) so don't lump yourself in with the crew you mentioned above. (Well, Lurker seems OK).
Straw, Prime, JAGO seem off the charts nutty with TDS. (So probably also many other minor things) if some guy they don't know causes them health-damaging stress for years.
They need help,and fast. I fear for their health. If they lower their immune system too much with stress and worry, The Rona might get 'em. The COVE. The Chinese Flu. The China Virus.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: che on December 01, 2020, 04:59:34 PM
Holy fuck Coach ,just give it up man , he lost lost the election, it is time to move on, you are melting worse than The True Adonis when he lost  2006 Mr Getbig  .



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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Fortress on December 01, 2020, 05:02:19 PM
The house of cards is collapsing.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: WalterWhite on December 01, 2020, 05:49:58 PM



Wow!  Never ending fraud in MI

Total outing here.



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 01, 2020, 05:57:23 PM

Jesus Christ, does anybody actually know how absentee ballots actually work?

Oh course there would be thousands of ballots mailed in New York State that have to go to Pennsylvania to be counted.

That is the whole point of absentee ballots! People who are registered to vote in Pennsylvania, but are currently in New York, have to mail in their ballots and they have to be transported to the state they are registered to vote in (ie. Pennsylvania) to be counted!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 01, 2020, 06:08:26 PM

What is this guy even saying in the beginning of this video?

There were hardly any ballots to take from his company to USPS the last few days before the election compared to the few weeks before? No shit there weren’t. It was all over the news to not mail in your ballot the last 5 days before the election because of the problems with USPS.

The USPS guy asked him to double check if they were any on the last day and there were only 7 but that had to be a lie? I’m surprised there were even 7.

Plus the USPS girl was throwing out Trump Ballots? You don’t know who a ballot is for unless you open both the envelopes it came in. Once the envelopes are opened, the ballot can’t be put back in and still sent to the voting center since it would be rejected when it arrived. Wouldn’t you be opening envelopes containing ballots for both Biden and Trump if that was your plan, thereby making all of them useless? Once the envelopes are open that ballot is trash.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 06:10:30 PM
Holy fuck Coach ,just give it up man , he lost lost the election, it is time to move on, you are melting worse than The True Adonis when he lost  2006 Mr Getbig  .



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You should keep up sunshine. I’ve said over and over again it’s not about him winning or losing anymore.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 06:13:25 PM
You should keep up sunshine. I’ve said over and over again it’s not about him winning or losing anymore.

 ::)

He lost.  Though you desperately wish he didn't.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 06:14:47 PM
Abe, you may dislike Trump and are probably on the left, but you seem very normal (for GetBig :) so don't lump yourself in with the crew you mentioned above. (Well, Lurker seems OK).
Straw, Prime, JAGO seem off the charts nutty with TDS.
(So probably also many other minor things) if some guy they don't know causes them health-damaging stress for years.
They need help,and fast. I fear for their health. If they lower their immune system too much with stress and worry, The Rona might get 'em. The COVE. The Chinese Flu. The China Virus.

I.  Must.  Try.  Harder.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 06:19:44 PM
Abe, you may dislike Trump and are probably on the left, but you seem very normal (for GetBig :) so don't lump yourself in with the crew you mentioned above. (Well, Lurker seems OK).
Straw, Prime, JAGO seem off the charts nutty with TDS. (So probably also many other minor things) if some guy they don't know causes them health-damaging stress for years.
They need help,and fast. I fear for their health. If they lower their immune system too much with stress and worry, The Rona might get 'em. The COVE. The Chinese Flu. The China Virus.

Lurker is just as fucked up in head as the rest. He voted for Biden for Christ’s sake. The only normal one that doesn’t get too involved is Abraham. He seems more of a democrat   as opposed to the others who actually want socialism and communism
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 06:26:28 PM
Lurker is just as fucked up in head as the rest. He voted for Biden for Christ’s sake. The only normal one that doesn’t get too involved is Abraham. He seems more of a democrat   as opposed to the others who actually want socialism and communism

HAHAHA says the birther who thought covid was an assassination attempt and now spends all his time puking his delusional hopes all over the front page of this forum.

It's killing you and you act like a little bitch having a menarche meltdown.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 01, 2020, 06:30:04 PM

First issue with this lady is this... she is a poll watcher but didn’t scream bloody murder at the time of seeing these things she claims she saw? That is the whole point of being there! You can dispute things and all the supervisors have to get together and resolve any issue on the spot.

She is claiming signatures didn’t match from the computer records for a voter to the signature on the ballot and the lady showed her as such?

Firstly, no ballots have signatures.

I assume she means the envelope the ballot was in which means, at that point nobody knows who that vote is for since the ballot is still inside safe and sound. So if it was let through with a bad signature then it might be a vote for either candidate.

Also, if the signature doesn’t match at that point, isn’t it the job of the lady trying to get her attention to actually reject that ballot! Why is she being hush hush and not simply rejecting it.

The signatures get approved or rejected long before the ballot is revealed. And that happens by someone else, not the person who approves or rejects the signature.

As for ballots being run through machines multiple times. All the ballots generally have barcodes or other security devices on them identifying it as the ballot of the person who requested it to prevent them from being counted twice by machines, and also from being mailed in by someone who also votes in person on Election Day.

Not to mention all the ballot numbers have to match how many were sent in and how many people turned up on Election Day.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 06:45:32 PM
First issue with this lady is this... she is a poll watcher but didn’t scream bloody murder at the time of seeing these things she claims she saw? That is the whole point of being there! You can dispute things and all the supervisors have to get together and resolve any issue on the spot.

She is claiming signatures didn’t match from the computer records for a voter to the signature on the ballot and the lady showed her as such?

Firstly, no ballots have signatures.

I assume she means the envelope the ballot was in which means, at that point nobody knows who that vote is for since the ballot is still inside safe and sound. So if it was let through with a bad signature then it might be a vote for either candidate.

Also, if the signature doesn’t match at that point, isn’t it the job of the lady trying to get her attention to actually reject that ballot! Why is she being hush hush and not simply rejecting it.

The signatures get approved or rejected long before the ballot is revealed. And that happens by someone else, not the person who approves or rejects the signature.

As for ballots being run through machines multiple times. All the ballots generally have barcodes or other security devices on them identifying it as the ballot of the person who requested it to prevent them from being counted twice by machines, and also from being mailed in by someone who also votes in person on Election Day.

Not to mention all the ballot numbers have to match how many were sent in and how many people turned up on Election Day.

Don't worry.  Mrs. McEnany Jr. will be on here tomorrow (and every day afterwards) with a new excuse or  pipe dream to share with us.  This will be forgotten soon and on to the next one....
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 07:55:34 PM
Coach...ur pathetic with this now..just stop.
It's over.

Holy shit, another gimmick 🤦‍♂️

Ron, how about some control of your site?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 07:56:28 PM
D’oh


http://redstateobserver.com/article.asp?id=176266&fbclid=IwAR2p59iKBCD6AyWqwDDrZt-x2Ynz9ICBqSEL_C1hgQRbfg35g_OpsX-E-SU
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 01, 2020, 08:12:55 PM
D’oh


http://redstateobserver.com/article.asp?id=176266&fbclid=IwAR2p59iKBCD6AyWqwDDrZt-x2Ynz9ICBqSEL_C1hgQRbfg35g_OpsX-E-SU

Red State Observer = The right's version of The Onion.  Only difference is we know it's a spoof.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 08:18:05 PM
Red State Observer = The right's version of The Onion.  Only difference is we know it's a spoof.

Might want to check the tweet within the article from Catherine Herrege
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2020, 08:24:55 PM
Might want to check the tweet within the article from Catherine Herrege

We don't have to.  We just have to discredit the source and everything associated with it or contained in it is discredited as well.  You know, like you do when someone posts something from CNN or Yahoo that you can't refute, you just try to refute the messenger instead of the message.

Take that shit over to parler and stop posting drivel here you desperate trumpturd.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 08:29:21 PM
But has yahoo confirmed this ?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 10:33:02 PM
We don't have to.  We just have to discredit the source and everything associated with it or contained in it is discredited as well.  You know, like you do when someone posts something from CNN or Yahoo that you can't refute, you just try to refute the messenger instead of the message.

Take that shit over to parler and stop posting drivel here you desperate trumpturd.

Hahahaha....you couldn’t discredit anyone. Never have. Are you shitting me 😂😂😂
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 01, 2020, 10:33:50 PM
But has yahoo confirmed this ?

Yes, the author of the article was Lurker lol
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 02, 2020, 01:44:59 AM


This one is hilarious. Especially since Trump posted it to his own YouTube channel.

Absentee ballots had to be in by 8pm on election night in Michigan. Ie. to the county clerks office.

This guy is complaining that ballots turned up to be counted in the counting room at 4am still in their envelopes.

That is what is supposed to happen! Ballots are transported from the county clerk office (ie. their secure warehouse) to the counting room AS NEEDED.

When the ballots get low in the counting room they call for more to be brought in from the county clerk. This happens at 4am, 7am, 10am or whatever time they are needed until the county clerk has no more left to be brought over to be counted.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 02, 2020, 01:55:37 AM


This one is hilarious. Especially since Trump posted it to his own YouTube channel.

Absentee ballots had to be in by 8pm on election night in Michigan. Ie. to the county clerks office.

This guy is complaining that ballots turned up to be counted in the counting room at 4am still in their envelopes.

That is what is supposed to happen! Ballots are transported from the county clerk office (ie. their secure warehouse) to the counting room AS NEEDED.

When the ballots get low in the counting room they call for more to be brought in from the county clerk. This happens at 4am, 7am, 10am or whatever time they are needed until the county clerk has no more left to be brought over to be counted.

I keep getting a sinking feeling trump and the right are just as bad as the left. I keep hearing wild accusations but no evidence. Sidney powel considers this the greatest fraud in history and then says a dominion employee went and abducted a server right from the state capital and says the DOJ and FBI are nowhere to be found etc...

Someone help me out here is this all really happening? Its a load of bullshit. From the left and from the right.

If we wont stand now we never will.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on December 02, 2020, 02:15:03 AM
Yes, the author of the article was Lurker lol

Yahoo or Cnn is like China Flu, 1 big bullshit  ;D

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 02, 2020, 03:26:52 AM
I keep getting a sinking feeling trump and the right are just as bad as the left. I keep hearing wild accusations but no evidence. Sidney powel considers this the greatest fraud in history and then says a dominion employee went and abducted a server right from the state capital and says the DOJ and FBI are nowhere to be found etc...

Someone help me out here is this all really happening? Its a load of bullshit. From the left and from the right.

If we wont stand now we never will.
everything Sidney Powell says is bullshit.

Her prize witness is a guy who heard something from a guy who knew the brother of another guy who heard about election fraud in Central America from someone else.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 08:08:53 AM
Hahahaha....you couldn’t discredit anyone. Never have. Are you shitting me 😂😂😂

You are discredited by your own posts. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 08:10:14 AM
everything Sidney Powell says is bullshit.

Her prize witness is a guy who heard something from a guy who knew the brother of another guy who heard about election fraud in Central America from someone else.

Sidney "Coach" Powell just claimed massive voter fraud in a county that does not even exist.  Good job Trumpturds.  New day, new reminder of how stupid you are. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 02, 2020, 08:21:19 AM
Sidney "Coach" Powell just claimed massive voter fraud in a county that does not even exist.  Good job Trumpturds.  New day, new reminder of how stupid you are.

Hope she didn't mean that Biden got votes from a county that does not even exist.  That'll be some impressive accomplishment by Joe.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 08:29:52 AM
One of the witnesses in Sidney Powell’s new Michigan lawsuit says in a declaration he thinks there’s something fishy about election returns in Edison County, MI. Thing is, there is no Edison County in Michigan.

Silly Sidney didnt even fact check before rushing headlong into more stupidity with her claims. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 08:57:26 AM
everything Sidney Powell says is bullshit.

Her prize witness is a guy who heard something from a guy who knew the brother of another guy who heard about election fraud in Central America from someone else.

Hahahahahahahah.....quic k, let’s get Adam Schiff (or any Dem counsel) to come and discredit her🤣
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 08:58:17 AM


This one is hilarious. Especially since Trump posted it to his own YouTube channel.

Absentee ballots had to be in by 8pm on election night in Michigan. Ie. to the county clerks office.

This guy is complaining that ballots turned up to be counted in the counting room at 4am still in their envelopes.

That is what is supposed to happen! Ballots are transported from the county clerk office (ie. their secure warehouse) to the counting room AS NEEDED.

When the ballots get low in the counting room they call for more to be brought in from the county clerk. This happens at 4am, 7am, 10am or whatever time they are needed until the county clerk has no more left to be brought over to be counted.

What difference what channel is was posted to? lol
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 09:00:15 AM
Sidney "Coach" Powell just claimed massive voter fraud in a county that does not even exist.  Good job Trumpturds.  New day, new reminder of how stupid you are.

Yep, massive fraud that you haven’t even watched (not read) one minute of on any clip or FULL 2-3hr testimonies. If you haven’t don’t any of that, shut the fuck up. You look like an ass....even more so
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 09:00:52 AM
Too bad we don’t have any Democrats posting in this thread

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/19/whoa-nearly-a-third-of-democrats-believe-the-election-was-stolen-from-trump-n1160882
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 09:06:19 AM
Yep, massive fraud that you haven’t even watched (not read) one minute of on any clip or FULL 2-3hr testimonies. If you haven’t don’t any of that, shut the fuck up. You look like an ass....even more so

I don't have to in order to know that fraud was a nonexistent county is impossible.

You are desperate for something to cling to.  HAHAHAHA   it's killing you.  You turning into a bigger whiner than Trump.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 09:16:50 AM
I don't have to in order to know that fraud was a nonexistent county is impossible.

You are desperate for something to cling to.  HAHAHAHA   it's killing you.  You turning into a bigger whiner than Trump.

Lmfao...God you leftists are so predictable which is why you’re ALWAYS completely uninformed...Russia- fail the hooker - fail Kavanaugh- fail “quid pro quo” - fail anything Urkrain - Fail Peegate - fail

Let me know what I’ve left out lol


Give me ONE thing you’ve proven right...

And fuck no you or any leftist won’t watch because you know we’re right so the next I’m told to “ prove it” then offer it up and you don’t watch... stfu
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 09:31:40 AM
Lmfao...God you leftists are so predictable which is why you’re ALWAYS completely uninformed...Russia- fail the hooker - fail Kavanaugh- fail “quid pro quo” - fail anything Urkrain - Fail Peegate - fail

Let me know what I’ve left out lol


Give me ONE thing you’ve proven right...

And fuck no you or any leftist won’t watch because you know we’re right so the next I’m told to “ prove it” then offer it up and you don’t watch... stfu

Look at the little pizzagate believing birther manlet have his little meltdown.  Is a sign of covid19 assassination attempts the constant whining and crying like you and Trump are doing?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 02, 2020, 09:35:54 AM
I keep getting a sinking feeling trump and the right are just as bad as the left. I keep hearing wild accusations but no evidence. Sidney powel considers this the greatest fraud in history and then says a dominion employee went and abducted a server right from the state capital and says the DOJ and FBI are nowhere to be found etc...

Someone help me out here is this all really happening? Its a load of bullshit. From the left and from the right.

If we wont stand now we never will.

stand now?

says the guy who says take the vaccine and shut up so you can move on with your garbage life?

cmon man!! you know its that thing... you know the thing
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 09:43:41 AM
Look at the little pizzagate believing birther manlet have his little meltdown.  Is a sign of covid19 assassination attempts the constant whining and crying like you and Trump are doing?

Just wondering if you believed the ANONYMOUS “whistleblower” during the fake impeachment hearings? 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 02, 2020, 09:56:23 AM
One of the witnesses in Sidney Powell’s new Michigan lawsuit says in a declaration he thinks there’s something fishy about election returns in Edison County, MI. Thing is, there is no Edison County in Michigan.

Silly Sidney didnt even fact check before rushing headlong into more stupidity with her claims.

I agree.  If it turned out that Biden got votes from a county that doesn't exist, that would indeed be fishy.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 10:59:42 AM
Just wondering if you believed the ANONYMOUS “whistleblower” during the fake impeachment hearings?

How could they be fake if they resulted in an actual impeachment?   ::)

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 11:00:56 AM
I agree.  If it turned out that Biden got votes from a county that doesn't exist, that would indeed be fishy.

Not quite as fishy as if the votes didn't exist either.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: pamith on December 02, 2020, 11:07:39 AM
It's happening
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 02, 2020, 12:31:49 PM
What difference what channel is was posted to? lol
You would think Trump would post a story that was harder to debunk.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 01:09:55 PM
You would think Trump would post a story that was harder to debunk.

Should we tell his attorneys jwb from GetBig said you’re wrong? Lol
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 02, 2020, 01:12:54 PM
How could they be fake if they resulted in an actual impeachment?   ::)

Because a real impeachment is bipartisan.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 02, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
Should we tell his attorneys jwb from GetBig said you’re wrong? Lol
They know it is bullshit. Imagine Sidney Powell’s life after some kid blows up a bunch of election officials in the next few weeks and kills them. She will probably write a book claiming to be the victim.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2020, 02:46:31 PM
Because a real impeachment is bipartisan.

 ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 02, 2020, 02:49:48 PM
Because a real impeachment is bipartisan.

where does it say that in The Constitution?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on December 02, 2020, 03:07:45 PM
Because a real impeachment is bipartisan.

Coach , any more physical challenges from BoB,Coward,Saggy................... ;D

I can provide free ring ....... :)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 03, 2020, 05:19:17 AM
This woman is being trashed on social media for testifying about fraud in Michigan.
People are saying she is drunk, a stripper, loony, etc.
Judge for yourself.


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 03, 2020, 08:34:44 AM
1-40 in post election litigation . . .

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 03, 2020, 08:58:06 AM
I heard people are being threatened for testifying about the fraud that they witnessed. I am outraged i mean who the fuck doesnt want fraud to be known?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 03, 2020, 09:02:45 AM
They know it is bullshit. Imagine Sidney Powell’s life after some kid blows up a bunch of election officials in the next few weeks and kills them. She will probably write a book claiming to be the victim.

You know that's only ok to kill people if you are a member of Antifa or BLM. You are slipping...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 03, 2020, 09:04:04 AM
where does it say that in The Constitution?

Have you ever read it? I mean after you finished reading The Communist Manifesto?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 10:15:14 AM
Brutal


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 03, 2020, 10:29:10 AM
so much is going to come from this  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 03, 2020, 10:31:25 AM
With all this fraud why isn't the FBI investigating?  In other news Biden said he is keeping the head of the FBI in place when he is sworn in. The swamp runs deep.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 03, 2020, 10:34:52 AM
where does it say that in The Constitution?

The part where it says to remove a President you need both sides of congress the senate and the house. That didn't happen.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 03, 2020, 10:35:12 AM
Brutal




Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 03, 2020, 10:41:16 AM
Another loss just announced.  This time in Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Trump & his allies are now 1-41 in court.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 10:44:17 AM
Another loss just announced.  This time in Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Trump & his allies are now 1-41 in court.

Good, off to the SCOTUS
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 10:45:45 AM


I know, I know....those damn facts 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 03, 2020, 10:51:33 AM
Good, off to the SCOTUS
I just hope they take it.  I do not have a lot of confidence in Roberts.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 10:56:00 AM
I just hope they take it.  I do not have a lot of confidence in Roberts.

To be clear, I have ZERO confidence in Robert’s.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 03, 2020, 11:07:10 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 03, 2020, 11:15:27 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 11:39:09 AM
They know it is bullshit. Imagine Sidney Powell’s life after some kid blows up a bunch of election officials in the next few weeks and kills them. She will probably write a book claiming to be the victim.

This is how much you don't keep up. Attorneys, witnesses, politicians, their kids, families and even their pets are being threatened everyday if they come forward with evidence (more evidence) judges and their families are being threatened if they don't rule the way they're told. This is PRECISELY why you or anyone else who thinks this is bullshit shouldn't comment on things you know absolutely NOTHING about.

If there's nothing going on then why is everyone being threatened to not come forward???
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 03, 2020, 11:57:10 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 03, 2020, 12:42:45 PM
The part where it says to remove a President you need both sides of congress the senate and the house. That didn't happen.

Removal and Impeachment are two different things.  Neither require both parties to cooperate.  Only a % majority in the House and Senate.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 01:31:36 PM
This is how much you don't keep up. Attorneys, witnesses, politicians, their kids, families and even their pets are being threatened everyday if they come forward with evidence (more evidence) judges and their families are being threatened if they don't rule the way they're told. This is PRECISELY why you or anyone else who thinks this is bullshit shouldn't comment on things you know absolutely NOTHING about.

If there's nothing going on then why is everyone being threatened to not come forward???
Like that girl who said she had to delete her social media, yet still has a Facebook account?

She is a fucking pilled out whack job. I especially love the part where she goes off on the poor Republican guy trying to ask her questions.



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 03, 2020, 01:33:16 PM


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoVXqU6XEAI9HlA?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 03, 2020, 01:35:49 PM
If only we had a board just for politics.  ;D

If only....  ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 03, 2020, 01:37:55 PM
If only....  ;D

If only the CTers were actually smart enough to use that board....
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 03, 2020, 01:53:12 PM
The part where it says to remove a President you need both sides of congress the senate and the house. That didn't happen.

The constitution actually isn't too clear on the issue of impeachment. It appears to say conflicting things. What it means (IMO) is the the house charges the President and the Senate convicts or acquits the President.

The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" ( Article I, section 2 ) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments…[but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" ( Article I, section 3 ).
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 01:56:16 PM
copy paste

brain wont workkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kk
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 03, 2020, 01:58:40 PM
The constitution actually isn't too clear on the issue of impeachment. It appears to say conflicting things. What it means (IMO) is the the house charges the President and the Senate convicts or acquits the President.

The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" ( Article I, section 2 ) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments…[but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" ( Article I, section 3 ).

Yes, like I said the House impeaching him means nothing without a conviction from the Senate.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 03, 2020, 02:00:12 PM
Yes, like I said the House impeaching him means nothing without a conviction from the Senate.

Exactly.

Even moreso when it was almost completely 100% partisan, and they had to change the charges from bribery to a vague "abuse of power" because they couldn't prove their case.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 03, 2020, 02:09:44 PM
This is how much you don't keep up. Attorneys, witnesses, politicians, their kids, families and even their pets are being threatened everyday if they come forward with evidence (more evidence) judges and their families are being threatened if they don't rule the way they're told. This is PRECISELY why you or anyone else who thinks this is bullshit shouldn't comment on things you know absolutely NOTHING about.

If there's nothing going on then why is everyone being threatened to not come forward???

Threats to Election Officials Piled Up as President Trump Refused to Concede

The exact number of incidents of poll-worker intimidation is unknown. But a FRONTLINE review, based on questions to a dozen election and law enforcement agencies in five swing states, as well as local media reports, found examples of threats or acute security risks to election workers in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona and Georgia.

In Philadelphia, two Virginia men were arrested on firearms charges on November 5 after the FBI received a tip they were traveling to polling locations with AR-15 rifles to “straighten things out.” The men, who have pleaded not guilty, were found with weapons and ammunition in a Hummer bearing a windshield sticker for QAnon — an online conspiracy group that has promoted baseless claims of election fraud.

FRONTLINE reviewed evidence of two threats in Nevada: a recording of the 27-second, expletive-laced voicemail from days after polls closed and a police report describing a November 6 call to the Secretary of State’s Election Division.

“You all are lucky there that I am an elderly man that is too old to fight and don’t own any guns, but I’ll tell you what, you’re about to get bum rushed by a bunch of young, 20-year-old boys. You’re worthless,” the November 6 caller said, according to the police report.

On November 11, The Detroit News reported that a public Zoom meeting of Wayne County election canvassers had been interrupted by a person who threatened rape and violence against the board members’ mothers.


https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/threats-to-election-officials-piled-up-as-president-trump-refused-to-concede/

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 03, 2020, 02:15:55 PM
My understanding is that if the election results are sti contested come jan 20th speaker of the house (Pelosi) becomes interim president until congress sorts things out.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 03, 2020, 02:17:20 PM
Yes, like I said the House impeaching him means nothing without a conviction from the Senate.

Like I said, Impeachment and Removal are two different things and unlike the misinformation that coach is peddling (again), it doesn't require a bipartisan action.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 03, 2020, 02:22:27 PM
Yes, like I said the House impeaching him means nothing without a conviction from the Senate.

Maybe that's what you meant to write but it isn't what you said.

It’s important to note that while impeachment is a method to remove someone from office, it does not directly mean removal.

Think of the impeachment process as a political court. If lawmakers decide to move forward with impeachment, the House plays the role of prosecutor, and the Senate acts as the collective jury. Articles of Impeachment are the charges, and removal from office is the potential punishment.

The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ThisisOverload on December 03, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
If only the CTers were actually smart enough to use that board....

To be fair, it was pretty even for a while, but the CT Republicans have taken a large lead on the G&O. Thanks to Coach.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: youandme on December 03, 2020, 03:13:38 PM
https://thepostmillennial.com/trump-lawyer-lists-exhaustive-list-of-voting-infractions-in-georgia


Whoa video footage of suitcases in ballot room with ballots. Poll watchers told to leave.


At gym can’t link.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 03, 2020, 03:55:04 PM
My understanding is that if the election results are still contested come Jan 20th speaker of the house (Pelosi) becomes interim president until congress sorts things out.

I'm getting hard already!

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
Georgia State Farm Arena Footage Shows Poll Workers Staying Behind, Pulling Out ‘Suitcases’ With Ballots

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/state-farm-arena-footage-shows-poll-workers-staying-behind-pulling-out-suitcases-with-ballots_3603293.html

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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 04:05:57 PM
The constitution actually isn't too clear on the issue of impeachment. It appears to say conflicting things. What it means (IMO) is the the house charges the President and the Senate convicts or acquits the President.

The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" ( Article I, section 2 ) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments…[but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" ( Article I, section 3 ).

If it was that simple we would need attorneys, just people pulling shit off the net trying to interpret law
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 04:08:09 PM
Like that girl who said she had to delete her social media, yet still has a Facebook account?

She is a fucking pilled out whack job. I especially love the part where she goes off on the poor Republican guy trying to ask her questions.



You’re talking the chick in the video and I’m talking about everyone else. This is what makes you clueless
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
Georgia State Farm Arena Footage Shows Poll Workers Staying Behind, Pulling Out ‘Suitcases’ With Ballots

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/state-farm-arena-footage-shows-poll-workers-staying-behind-pulling-out-suitcases-with-ballots_3603293.html

Download our app to read more for free at https://ept.ms/DownloadApp
People don’t seem to realize how absentee ballots work.

The state sends them out. Each ballot that gets sent out actually has a barcode or something similar that is linked to who it was sent out to. Every ballot, whether it gets used or not, is actually a unique document because of that barcode. This also applies to the envelopes the ballot goes out with. They are a matched set.

People fill them out and send them back to the state via usps. Usps brings them to the County Clerks office, or their secure warehouse. Somewhere along this path to that warehouse they are scanned and it is recorded which barcodes, and therefore, which people have returned their ballots. Nobody knows how they voted yet since it is still inside the envelopes. This process also gives the count of how many ballots have been received. This is how the news can say in the days before the election how many mail in ballots have been received so far.

On election night once the counting starts at the counting place the ballots are slowly transported over to that place AS NEEDED after the same day ballots are counted.

Any ballots that get placed in any room of the counting center at any time have to have come from the county clerk secure warehouse.

Why can’t outside ballots just be brought in? Because they wouldn’t have the same barcodes that have already been scanned when they arrived at the county clerk days or weeks ago. And they would throw off the numbers. The number of ballots that arrive to the county clerk have to match the number that are counted over at the counting place.

Get it?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 04:36:11 PM
People don’t seem to realize how absentee ballots work.

The state sends them out. Each ballot that gets sent out actually has a barcode or something similar that is linked to who it was sent out to. Every ballot, whether it gets used or not, is actually a unique document because of that barcode. This also applies to the envelopes the ballot goes out with. They are a matched set.

People fill them out and send them back to the state via usps. Usps brings them to the County Clerks office, or their secure warehouse. Somewhere along this path to that warehouse they are scanned and it is recorded which barcodes, and therefore, which people have returned their ballots. Nobody knows how they voted yet since it is still inside the envelopes. This process also gives the count of how many ballots have been received. This is how the news can say in the days before the election how many mail in ballots have been received so far.

On election night once the counting starts at the counting place the ballots are slowly transported over to that place AS NEEDED after the same day ballots are counted.

Any ballots that get placed in any room of the counting center at any time have to have come from the county clerk secure warehouse.

Why can’t outside ballots just be brought in? Because they wouldn’t have the same barcodes that have already been scanned when they arrived at the county clerk days or weeks ago. And they would throw off the numbers. The number of ballots that arrive to the county clerk have to match the number that are counted over at the counting place.

Get it?

You didn’t watch it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 04:36:44 PM
Also, the absentee ballots that come over from the county clerk still have to be signature verified. The signature is on the envelopes not the ballot (no ballots ever have signatures on them directly)

The person doing that scans the barcode on the envelope to bring up that person’s computer records and their signature.

They already know who sent it a ballot to the clerk because of that barcode. An outside ballot wouldn’t have a barcode that matched one that went to the county clerk as required.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 04:57:40 PM
You didn’t watch it.
They definitely shouldn’t  be processing anything without observers.

Does that mean the documents they have are not real ballots? No it doesn’t.

The envelopes, the ballots both still have to match the barcodes from what was received by the county clerks days before, otherwise the machines will reject them!

Do you even understand that part?

They did two recounts in Georgia. Any ballots that were not sent back to the county clerk but suddenly appeared at the counting center would have been discovered because of the barcodes.

To cheat you have to create identities (real people have to go get actual drivers licenses in person and sign a real signature) and they have to have real addresses that ballots can be sent to once they register to vote and request an absentee ballot. It’s incredibly hard.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 03, 2020, 04:59:41 PM
Oh Dear....   nothing of consequence happened today either.  Biden is one day closer to tossing Trump to the curb.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 05:08:08 PM
In fact, they actually verify your signature before they even send out the absentee ballot as well as after you send it back in.

If your signature on your application for an absentee ballot doesn’t match state computer records you can’t even get a ballot sent out.

https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/politics/elections/signature-matching-georgia-why-it-cant-be-done-again/85-7342e2b5-3ad9-49fa-ba5b-ae6b89957770


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 05:11:45 PM
so if everything was on the up and up

wouldn't this be cut and dry and called on nov 3rd?

dont say by cnn

or AP news

or ill nuke the site
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 05:55:18 PM
They definitely shouldn’t  be processing anything without observers.

Does that mean the documents they have are not real ballots? No it doesn’t.

The envelopes, the ballots both still have to match the barcodes from what was received by the county clerks days before, otherwise the machines will reject them!

Do you even understand that part?

They did two recounts in Georgia. Any ballots that were not sent back to the county clerk but suddenly appeared at the counting center would have been discovered because of the barcodes.

To cheat you have to create identities (real people have to go get actual drivers licenses in person and sign a real signature) and they have to have real addresses that ballots can be sent to once they register to vote and request an absentee ballot. It’s incredibly hard.

You still didn’t watch it did you? This is a yes or no question
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 06:08:44 PM
You still didn’t watch it did you? This is a yes or no question
I watched it.

Also, the guy in the blue shirt is the overseer supposedly which makes it legal to count if he is in the room.

The whole observer thing is so stupid since they really don’t make a difference now the ballots and envelopes are barcoded and matched. Unlike the old days when ballots could be swapped out and nobody would know.

Once the barcodes from the envelope and the ballot are linked to the person requesting an absentee ballot the security of the system is set.

From that point on until the any final recount, those barcodes have to match the barcodes that got sent out way before the election. It doesn’t matter if they are under tables or up someone’s ass or if people see what happens to them 24/7 or not.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 06:10:02 PM
my nikka
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 06:12:15 PM
Also Coach, you know that millions and millions of votes are counted every election with no poll watchers present because they simply can’t get poll watchers to turn up to every place where counting takes place right?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 06:20:40 PM
I watched it.

Also, the guy in the blue shirt is the overseer supposedly which makes it legal to count if he is in the room.

The whole observer thing is so stupid since they really don’t make a difference now the ballots and envelopes are barcoded and matched. Unlike the old days when ballots could be swapped out and nobody would know.

Once the barcodes from the envelope and the ballot are linked to the person requesting an absentee ballot the security of the system is set.

From that point on until the any final recount, those barcodes have to match the barcodes that got sent out way before the election. It doesn’t matter if they are under tables or up someone’s ass or if people see what happens to them 24/7 or not.

Look, I know you want Biden win AT ALL COSTS but you have to be a little honest with yourself. For some reason you seems to think that what’s going on isn’t going on and you’re trying to justify it any way you can. The fact that the foreperson called and end the counting, sent everyone home with the exception of four to stay to count with no one  else watching THEN suitcases of ballots come in then counted and you’re trying to make excuses for it despite witness testimony despite expert testimony and you still think all is good?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 06:27:08 PM
Also Coach, you know that millions and millions of votes are counted every election with no poll watchers present because they simply can’t get poll watchers to turn up to every place where counting takes place right?

Dude...that’s the ENTIRE point of this. It’s been going without anyone saying anything but knew. I’ve said, this isn’t about who wins or loses anymore. It’s about the integrity of our election systems. Why do you think Dem ran cities like Detroit, Chicago, etc have been Dem strong hold for decades despite the blatant corruption?? I think the last time Chicago had a Republican mayor was like 1968...why do you suppose that is? Because they’re good at governing?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 06:30:02 PM
Look, I know you want Biden win AT ALL COSTS but you have to be a little honest with yourself. For some reason you seems to think that what’s going on isn’t going on and you’re trying to justify it any way you can. The fact that the foreperson called and end the counting, sent everyone home with the exception of four to stay to count with no one  else watching THEN suitcases of ballots come in then counted and you’re trying to make excuses for it despite witness testimony despite expert testimony and you still think all is good?
Low paid people do shit they shouldn’t do all the time.

The BARCODES have to match!!! It’s not like the old days where you could fill out ballots and swap them or simply add in more for your side like Putin did in the last Russian election. You get it finally?





Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 06:33:51 PM
Dude...that’s the ENTIRE point of this. It’s been going without anyone saying anything but knew. I’ve said, this isn’t about who wins or loses anymore. It’s about the integrity of our election systems. Why do you think Dem ran cities like Detroit, Chicago, etc have been Dem strong hold for decades despite the blatant corruption?? I think the last time Chicago had a Republican mayor was like 1968...why do you suppose that is? Because they’re good at governing?
The BARCODES you idiot. Even if you want a side to win you still have to send out blank ballots to people with barcodes on them. You can’t make them fill them out and send them back the way you want. And you don’t even know how they voted when they come back so you can’t touch them them cause you might hurt your team worse than the other team. And once they are back they have to be counted or the barcodes won’t match up.

Why do you think the Republicans work so hard on voter suppression? You have to stop people voting since once they do you can’t control the outcome.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 06:34:30 PM
Here, what we were talking about earlier


https://www.oann.com/n-j-judge-pushes-law-protecting-private-info-of-judges-following-husbands-recovery-from-shooting-and-sons-death/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 06:36:31 PM
The BARCODES you idiot. Even if you want a side to win you still have to send out blank ballots to people with barcodes on them. You can’t make them fill them out and send them back the way you want. And you don’t even know how they voted when they come back so you can’t touch them them cause you might hurt your team worse than the other team. And once they are back they have to be counted or the barcodes won’t match up.

Why do you think the Republicans work so hard on voter suppression? You have to stop people voting since once they do you can’t control the outcome.

Funny you bring up barcodes. I can’t remember which, I think Governor this was brought up too but he IMMEDIATELY shot that notion down.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 06:47:54 PM
Notion of barcodes?

That is how the system works like it or not.

It is incredibly hard to get around because the signature has to match state records for the person who requested the ballot that happens to have that barcode.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 06:50:17 PM
Keeps getting better


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/nevada-fraud-1-500-dead-voters-42-248-voted-multiple-times-rv-camps-as-homes
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 06:55:43 PM
You can’t vote twice you dummy
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 07:08:33 PM
You can’t vote twice you dummy

No shit. You’re not supposed too, neither are dead people. Now you’re catching on...fuck🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 03, 2020, 07:16:17 PM
I pointed out the video of suitcases full of votes coming from under a couch and my housemate says "well maybe things needed to be done after hours" he wont watch the video wont admit it makes his party look bad he then says it doesny make biden look bad BECAUSE HE DIDNT DO IT.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 07:21:36 PM
I pointed out the video of suitcases full of votes coming from under a couch and my housemate says "well maybe things needed to be done after hours" he wont watch the video wont admit it makes his party look bad he then says it doesny make biden look bad BECAUSE HE DIDNT DO IT.
the ballots can be stored up someone’s ass so long as the barcodes match the ballots that got sent to people it doesn’t matter.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 07:24:52 PM
No shit. You’re not supposed too, neither are dead people. Now you’re catching on...fuck🤦‍♂️
No, you literally can’t vote twice in Nevada because they know when you vote the first time and you can’t turn up and say you are someone else who is registered to vote in Nevada without photo ID.


“If you are registering for the first time or updating your existing voter registration after October 15, 2020, you must appear in person at a polling location to participate in the 2020 General Election.  Per NRS 293.5837 at the polling location you must also provide your current Nevada driver’s license or ID card which shows your physical address as proof of your identity and residency. If your driver’s license or ID card does not show your current residential address you will also need to provide proof of residency.”

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: youandme on December 03, 2020, 07:29:03 PM
No, you literally can’t vote twice in Nevada because they know when you vote the first time and you can’t turn up and say you are someone else who is registered to vote in Nevada without photo ID.


“If you are registering for the first time or updating your existing voter registration after October 15, 2020, you must appear in person at a polling location to participate in the 2020 General Election.  Per NRS 293.5837 at the polling location you must also provide your current Nevada driver’s license or ID card which shows your physical address as proof of your identity and residency. If your driver’s license or ID card does not show your current residential address you will also need to provide proof of residency.”

People voted twice. Once in another state and then requested a ballot from previous domicile state. It’s already been proven people voted twice.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 07:40:12 PM
People voted twice. Once in another state and then requested a ballot from previous domicile state. It’s already been proven people voted twice.
45,000 people in Nevada? And all for the democrats?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 07:46:06 PM
You guys know that the small amount of people who try to vote when they shouldn’t come from both sides right?

Seems like there is only Democratic fraud possible in this election by your view.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 03, 2020, 07:56:41 PM
45,000 people in Nevada? And all for the democrats?

Now you’re catching on. Was it Michigan where 138000 ballots were found....all for Biden? That’s not only improbable but impossible
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 09:13:12 PM
Dummy


That’s a pretty funny word
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 03, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
Now you’re catching on. Was it Michigan where 138000 ballots were found....all for Biden? That’s not only improbable but impossible
They weren’t found it was input error, from a Trump county btw, that was corrected right away live on tv. Did you even watch on election night?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 09:23:56 PM
Doop aloop

Wee bop

Cumdoodle

Orange man bad
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 03, 2020, 11:10:43 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 03, 2020, 11:27:25 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 03, 2020, 11:37:06 PM


The short haired negrette is whom? The lesbian looking one.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 03, 2020, 11:41:39 PM
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/03/dem-rep-goes-on-vile-rant-calling-hearing-witnesses-liars-but-this-legal-immigrant-is-not-having-it-1001781/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 04, 2020, 12:27:55 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 04, 2020, 02:16:23 AM
The ballots don’t have to be treated like precious cargo between the time they are received back and scanned and  when they are counted.

The barcodes ensure only ballots that were sent out to people weeks earlier, and returned by the same people, can be counted after the election.

Even valid blank ballots that were sent out and not sent back can’t be counted on Election Day no matter what you do to them.

If they didn’t get returned to the county clerk on time, where they were scanned as they arrived, they can’t be counted. That scan when they get back turns them into valid ballots. Before then they are just pieces of paper.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 04, 2020, 06:15:28 AM
You need real ballots to have elections in the first place, not fake ones...

In all threads you write the same of how ballots should be treated, nothing about fake ballots, behind closed door ballot handling etc.

You ignore the witnesses saying they were FAKE and how they shipped them in from different states...

I guess all people who are trained in handling ballots testifying on irregularities and cheating are just a bunch of dumb asses...

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: youandme on December 04, 2020, 06:47:34 AM
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/03/dem-rep-goes-on-vile-rant-calling-hearing-witnesses-liars-but-this-legal-immigrant-is-not-having-it-1001781/
Lmao is that keefa retarded? Took her minutes to come up with her simple question.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 04, 2020, 06:56:26 AM
Things are getting really interesting.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 09:37:39 AM
Don’t let the facts hit you in the ass...


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: youandme on December 04, 2020, 09:46:41 AM
Wtf is taking that Georgia SOS so long to do something?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 10:33:01 AM
.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 10:42:04 AM
The short haired negrette is whom? The lesbian looking one.

she is your boss  she tells you to shut up,   mask up,    take vaccine

then even you tell others that as well , that's what's so pathetic 

and your like "well can I still shoot meth and loaf off my "roomate"? can I still go make 2k at my "job"



and she is like yes mike you can

and your like thanks maaam
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 10:49:57 AM
Change of subject for a minute. Am I the only one that thinks the blond chick with her hair in a bun is hot af?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 10:51:40 AM
The ballots don’t have to be treated like precious cargo between the time they are received back and scanned and  when they are counted.

The barcodes ensure only ballots that were sent out to people weeks earlier, and returned by the same people, can be counted after the election.

Even valid blank ballots that were sent out and not sent back can’t be counted on Election Day no matter what you do to them.

If they didn’t get returned to the county clerk on time, where they were scanned as they arrived, they can’t be counted. That scan when they get back turns them into valid ballots. Before then they are just pieces of paper.

um ok

yours a experiences poll worker sir?

poll watcher?

postal worker?

ups usps or fed ex?

tell us



you see the videos from Georgia alone? just Georgia alone sir
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 10:57:52 AM
Change of subject for a minute. Am I the only one that thinks the blond chick with her hair in a bun is hot af?

yes id plow like a immigrant potato farmer

and ask that she count ballots while I do said plowing

and when reaching climax if she could yell out,  "Joshua you have voted sir!!!!"
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 11:03:40 AM
yes id plow like a immigrant potato farmer

and ask that she count ballots while I do said plowing

and when reaching climax if she could yell out,  "Joshua you have voted sir!!!!"

Hahahahahaha 😂😂😂
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 04, 2020, 11:21:48 AM
Change of subject for a minute. Am I the only one that thinks the blond chick with her hair in a bun is hot af?

No, you aren't. I mentioned in another thread how I'd hit it. And hit it hard. 😁
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 11:24:01 AM
I heard people are being threatened for testifying about the fraud that they witnessed. I am outraged i mean who the fuck doesnt want fraud to be known?

no kidding

and this poor blonde woman who testifies and she is being criticized by jwb or jib or jeb whatever the heck he calls himself and many others 

she is very upset not at just what she saw in person but at the threats and pressure to destroy her for speaking out

you keyboard warriors don't know wtf your talking about

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2020, 11:30:42 AM
If it was that simple we would need attorneys, just people pulling shit off the net trying to interpret law

I think you meant to write would not need attorneys. Nothing about the law or the U.S. Constitution is simple. It's all open to interpretation. However, you do understand that what I posted is what is written in the U.S. Constitution and not just an opinion, mine or anyone else's.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 12:16:38 PM
What’s Happening in US Election Matches What Happened in Venezuela, Expert Says

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/whats-happening-in-us-election-matches-what-happened-in-venezuela-expert-says_3603951.html

Download our app to read more for free at https://ept.ms/DownloadApp
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 04, 2020, 12:22:13 PM
So, what is the answer to the video in the Hodge Twins show about the ballots under the table?

Is somebody going to rule on that?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2020, 12:24:38 PM
What’s Happening in US Election Matches What Happened in Venezuela, Expert Says

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/whats-happening-in-us-election-matches-what-happened-in-venezuela-expert-says_3603951.html

Download our app to read more for free at https://ept.ms/DownloadApp

What is the name of this expert and what are they an expert in? When I clicked on "read more" it took me to a "page not available" message. Thanks. Now my email inbox is going to be flooded with that lousy publication....The Epoch Times.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 04, 2020, 12:28:34 PM
no kidding

and this poor blonde woman who testifies and she is being criticized by jwb or jib or jeb whatever the heck he calls himself and many others 

she is very upset not at just what she saw in person but at the threats and pressure to destroy her for speaking out

you keyboard warriors don't know wtf your talking about

that "poor blonde woman" was already laughed out of court back in November.   The judge said that her “interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible.”

but like THE TRAITOR she just keeps repeating the same debunked bullshit and Trumptards keep posting it here

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 12:33:18 PM
What is the name of this expert and what are they an expert in? When I clicked on "read more" it took me to a "page not available" message. Thanks. Now my email inbox is going to be flooded with that lousy publication....The Epoch Times.

And why is it a “lousy” publication? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 04, 2020, 12:41:35 PM
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 12:48:37 PM
thanks bro

 you just cant seem to figure out that the sources of info your leaning on and relying on are what? biased? nooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo

you want communism so bad, why man?

can you at least articulate why?

without mentioning trump?

font in orange just for you bro

Lead Stories is unsurprisingly liberal and employs at least eight former CNN staffers to produce its fact checks and they perform 76 percent of the fact-checks. Lead Stories published a whopping 296 fact-checks between January 1, 2020 and March 9, 2020. Of those 296 fact-checks, only 12 were from left-leaning social media users and news outlets, whereas, 55 entries were from right-leaning social media users and news outlets.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 12:49:30 PM
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html

Dude, Lead stories is Facebooks lying-ass “fact checker” that recently lost a lawsuit and admitted they had lied. For fucks sake of course the left will make up shit. They’ve been fabricating bullshit for four years and for four years had their asses handed to them every time. Fuck!!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 04, 2020, 01:01:30 PM
Dude, Lead stories is Facebooks lying-ass “fact checker” that recently lost a lawsuit and admitted they had lied. For fucks sake of course the left will make up shit. They’ve been fabricating bullshit for four years and for four years had their asses handed to them every time. Fuck!!
The Republicans who run elections in Georgia tweeted this article.... The REPUBLICANS
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 01:03:13 PM
tweet tweet

tweet

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2020, 01:04:53 PM
And why is it a “lousy” publication? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?


Because it is full of lies that people with your narrative eat up.

How The Epoch Times Created a Giant Influence Machine
Since 2016, the Falun Gong-backed newspaper has used aggressive Facebook tactics and right-wing misinformation to create an anti-China, pro-Trump media empire.

This publication, which is affiliated with the secretive and relatively obscure Chinese spiritual movement Falun Gong, has become a leading purveyor of right-wing misinformation.

The publication and its affiliates employed a novel strategy that involved creating dozens of Facebook pages, filling them with feel-good videos and viral clickbait, and using them to sell subscriptions and drive traffic back to its partisan news coverage.

It has created a global-scale misinformation machine that has repeatedly pushed fringe narratives into the mainstream. Publications and shows linked to The Epoch Times have promoted the QAnon conspiracy theory.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/09/30/business/00epoch1/merlin_137172531_04d75e0a-dc75-4b34-bb22-d6af78525235-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

A 2018 gathering in Taiwan for practitioners of Falun Gong, which backs The Epoch Times.Credit...


https://themeerakaul.medium.com/who-is-epoch-times-and-why-are-they-supporting-trump-ce9acf4c46f1

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2020/jun/27/fake-news-what-epoch-times-and-why-did-it-arrive-m/

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 04, 2020, 01:49:48 PM
So testimony aside what evidence of fraud is there at this point?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 01:53:15 PM
lets see here mike

maybe that the election  hasn't been called yet?

listen carefully

or rather read, very carefully

there is no truth

but rather what isn't true

ponder on it

stay sober sir
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 04, 2020, 01:58:32 PM
So testimony aside what evidence of fraud is there at this point?
This guy explains how dumb all the claims are, as well as how inept Trumps legal team has been.



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 02:01:48 PM
thanks for your continued positivity sir!!

as we all know its so awesome to be unhappy and vindictive

right?


stay happy stay sober!!

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 02:55:37 PM
Nothing to see here

Sen. Kelly Loeffler Campaign Staffer Dies in Car Crash: Pence

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/sen-kelly-loeffler-campaign-staffer-dies-in-car-crash-pence_3605483.html

Download our app to read more for free at https://ept.ms/DownloadApp
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 03:01:05 PM

Because it is full of lies that people with your narrative eat up.

How The Epoch Times Created a Giant Influence Machine
Since 2016, the Falun Gong-backed newspaper has used aggressive Facebook tactics and right-wing misinformation to create an anti-China, pro-Trump media empire.

This publication, which is affiliated with the secretive and relatively obscure Chinese spiritual movement Falun Gong, has become a leading purveyor of right-wing misinformation.

The publication and its affiliates employed a novel strategy that involved creating dozens of Facebook pages, filling them with feel-good videos and viral clickbait, and using them to sell subscriptions and drive traffic back to its partisan news coverage.

It has created a global-scale misinformation machine that has repeatedly pushed fringe narratives into the mainstream. Publications and shows linked to The Epoch Times have promoted the QAnon conspiracy theory.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/09/30/business/00epoch1/merlin_137172531_04d75e0a-dc75-4b34-bb22-d6af78525235-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

A 2018 gathering in Taiwan for practitioners of Falun Gong, which backs The Epoch Times.Credit...


https://themeerakaul.medium.com/who-is-epoch-times-and-why-are-they-supporting-trump-ce9acf4c46f1

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2020/jun/27/fake-news-what-epoch-times-and-why-did-it-arrive-m/

You went everywhere but the source..as usual


https://m.theepochtimes.com/about-us

They’re against what you’re for
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2020, 03:10:13 PM
You went everywhere but the source..as usual


https://m.theepochtimes.com/about-us

Hmm, guess you didn't fully comprehend the previous post wherein I said the because I followed your link to the Epoch Times and provided my email address to read the rest of the article which had been taken down, my inbox would likely get flooded with Epoch Times propaganda and news articles.

One of the first things in the about section is this: "We are nonpartisan and dedicated to truthful reporting." If this is so, why are all the articles written from a right wing perspective?

More importantly, if you can factually dispute the information I posted about the Epoch Times, feel free to do so.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 03:15:13 PM
your like hair

we shave you off,

yet you grow back

often as a ingrown hair,  annoying and ugly as a ingrown hair is

it grows

same as cancer cells do

but cancer cells need sugar to feed from and grow

if we ignore you

then you have nothing to keep growing from

id say its a solid healthy plan for the well being of all

here here getbig!! here here

Make getbig great again!!

MGGA
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 03:22:48 PM
Hmm, guess you didn't fully comprehend the previous post wherein I said the because I followed your link to the Epoch Times and provided my email address to read the rest of the article which had been taken down, my inbox would likely get flooded with Epoch Times propaganda and news articles.

One of the first things in the about section is this: "We are nonpartisan and dedicated to truthful reporting." If this is so, why are all the articles written from a right wing perspective?

More importantly, if you can factually dispute the information I posted about the Epoch Times, feel free to do so.

Dude, let’s start with NY Times that’s endorsed Democrats damn near since it’s inception not to mention the fact that they’re Holocaust deniers, lied about Trump for four years...and got caught, being sued for defamation....

How about you factually refute any of the articles posted in the Epoch.

I know you didn’t read this

“The Epoch Times was founded in the United States in the year 2000 in response to communist repression and censorship in China. Our founders, Chinese-Americans who themselves had fled communism, sought to create an independent media to bring the world uncensored and truthful information.

The Epoch Times has received numerous awards for our reporting and design, including from the New York Press Association, the Society of Professional Journalists, and the Society for News Design.

The Epoch Times’ media network currently covers 21 languages and 33 countries.”
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 04, 2020, 03:24:44 PM
This guy explains how dumb all the claims are, as well as how inept Trumps legal team has been.



Have you considered that being dumb as a box of rocks is actually a source of pride for Trumptards

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 03:26:16 PM
Have you considered that being dumb as a box of rocks is actually a source of pride for Trumptards

And then there’s this clown who’s never posted anything factual in his life
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 04, 2020, 03:38:55 PM
Have you considered that being dumb as a box of rocks is actually a source of pride for Trumptards

For all the good and not so good that John McCain did in his life, his lasting legacy is giving a national platform to a full blown retard like Sara Palin.  Which paved the way for tea party liars, alternative facts and eventually the cult of Donald J Trump.  He should have stood up to his party and absolutely refused to put her on. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 03:57:31 PM
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/12/pennsylvania-dont-assume-alito-giving-until-12-9-to-respond-to-emergency-application-means-hes-letting-it-die-on-the-vine/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2020, 04:18:25 PM
Dude, let’s start with NY Times that’s endorsed Democrats damn near since it’s inception not to mention the fact that they’re Holocaust deniers, lied about Trump for four years...and got caught, being sued for defamation....

How about you factually refute any of the articles posted in the Epoch.

I know you didn’t read this

“The Epoch Times was founded in the United States in the year 2000 in response to communist repression and censorship in China. Our founders, Chinese-Americans who themselves had fled communism, sought to create an independent media to bring the world uncensored and truthful information.

The Epoch Times has received numerous awards for our reporting and design, including from the New York Press Association, the Society of Professional Journalists, and the Society for News Design.

The Epoch Times’ media network currently covers 21 languages and 33 countries.”

You know wrong then. I read it. I don't take everything I read as gospel. What you posted here is a their self assessment in other words an advertisement. What would you expect them to write about themselves? Try to find any legitimate mainstream source that supports the Epoch Times. When looking up information about The Epoch Times, I read several articles all of which pretty much said the same things about it.

Here's a list of the awards the Epoch Times has won. You'll note that none of them are recent. Truth is the Epoch Times reporting wasn't very involved in U.S. politics until 2016 when Trump came on the scene.

Between 2012 and 2013, four staff members at the paper received awards:

2012 Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Medal – Canadian publisher Cindy Gu of The Epoch Times was one of about 60,000 recipients awarded this commemorative medal, which honors "significant contributions and achievements by Canadians." She was nominated for the medal by the Canadian Centre for Abuse Awareness for raising awareness of human rights abuses in China and the organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners.

2012 New York Press Association Award – The Epoch Times won first place in the category "Best Special Section – Advertising, Division 2" for a special section produced for Asia Week New York in March 2012. "A great special section has five strong components: a great cover, appealing design, good art, strong content, and well-designed complementary advertising. This section has all five", said the NYPA judges. "In all, this is one of the nicest sections I have ever seen produced by a newspaper."

2012 Society of Professional Journalists' Sigma Delta Chi Award – The Epoch Times China reporter Matthew Robertson won this award in the category of Non-Deadline Reporting in newspapers with a circulation of less than 50,000 per day, for a series of articles he wrote on forced, live organ harvesting in China.

2013 Newswomen's Club Award – The Epoch Times New York reporter Genevieve Belmaker won a Front Page Award from the Newswomen's Club of New York for reporting on the effects of Hurricane Sandy, in the category of newspapers with a circulation of less than 100,000 per day.


Mysterious Mass-Delivery of Right-Wing Newspaper Raises Questions in Brooklyn
Brooklyn residents are reporting a huge unsolicited drop of the pro-Trump publication The Epoch Times this election year


https://www.bkreader.com/2020/09/03/mysterious-mass-delivery-of-right-wing-newspaper-in-brooklyn-raises-questions/

The Obscure Newspaper Fueling the Far-Right in Europe
The conspiratorial bent of The Epoch Times is forging common cause with European nationalists.

https://newrepublic.com/article/155076/obscure-newspaper-fueling-far-right-europe

The challenge of combating fake news in Asian American communities
Language diversity within the AAPI community means misinformation is difficult to track.

By Terry Nguyen  Nov 27, 2020, 11:00am EST

https://www.vox.com/identities/21579752/asian-american-misinformation-after-2020

10-15-19
What’s the deal with the ‘Epoch Times’? Here’s why you’re seeing so much pro-Trump content
The news outlet was one of the biggest pro-Trump advertisers on Facebook until it was removed from the platform in August.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90417298/whats-the-deal-with-the-epoch-times-heres-why-youre-seeing-so-much-pro-trump-content

Some Canadians who received unsolicited copy of Epoch Times upset by claim that China was behind virus
Special edition delivered to homes to attract new subscribers
Andrea Bellemare, Jason Ho, Katie Nicholson · CBC News ·

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/epoch-times-coronavirus-bioweapon-1.5548217

Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/

READERS REACT
Readers React: Readers should know the truth behind The Epoch Times


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2019-10-13/readers-should-know-the-truth-behind-the-epoch-times-utak

Why Is a Far-Right Conspiracist Newspaper Being Stocked at the Capitol?
CHASE WOODRUFF | OCTOBER 29, 2019 | 5:09AM


https://www.westword.com/news/why-is-far-right-conspiracist-newspaper-epoch-times-being-stocked-at-colorado-capitol-11537390

How US conspiracy theorists are targeting local government in the UK
Councillors and Scottish politicians are the subject of a misinformation campaign by the Epoch Times, a website the New York Times has called “one of the most mysterious fixtures of the pro-Trump media universe”.


https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2020/04/councillors-politicians-uk-trump-conspiracy-theory-outlet-epoch-times-coronavirus

Note: every single article I found that had anything positive to say about the Epoch Times was actually written by the Epoch Times. This publication's owners are masters of self promotion. They are also very adept at flooding social media with their propaganda, such as Facebook, twitter, Youtube, Google, etc. Facebook has routinely taken the Epoch Times misinformation articles down.

I honestly don't expect any of this to give you pause. The Epoch Times is giving you exactly what you want. Why would you question the accuracy of any of what they claim and promote. You will echo Trump and claim that all mainstream media is fake media. And the subversive media you follow is telling the truth. Time will tell.   





Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 04:19:03 PM
has yahoo confirmed yet?

cnn ?


Ill wait
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 04, 2020, 06:29:33 PM
And then there’s this clown who’s never posted anything factual in his life

As stupid as you are, you wouldn't know it if he did... BIRTHER.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 08:00:32 PM
You know wrong then. I read it. I don't take everything I read as gospel. What you posted here is a their self assessment in other words an advertisement. What would you expect them to write about themselves? Try to find any legitimate mainstream source that supports the Epoch Times. When looking up information about The Epoch Times, I read several articles all of which pretty much said the same things about it.

Here's a list of the awards the Epoch Times has won. You'll note that none of them are recent. Truth is the Epoch Times reporting wasn't very involved in U.S. politics until 2016 when Trump came on the scene.

Between 2012 and 2013, four staff members at the paper received awards:

2012 Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Medal – Canadian publisher Cindy Gu of The Epoch Times was one of about 60,000 recipients awarded this commemorative medal, which honors "significant contributions and achievements by Canadians." She was nominated for the medal by the Canadian Centre for Abuse Awareness for raising awareness of human rights abuses in China and the organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners.

2012 New York Press Association Award – The Epoch Times won first place in the category "Best Special Section – Advertising, Division 2" for a special section produced for Asia Week New York in March 2012. "A great special section has five strong components: a great cover, appealing design, good art, strong content, and well-designed complementary advertising. This section has all five", said the NYPA judges. "In all, this is one of the nicest sections I have ever seen produced by a newspaper."

2012 Society of Professional Journalists' Sigma Delta Chi Award – The Epoch Times China reporter Matthew Robertson won this award in the category of Non-Deadline Reporting in newspapers with a circulation of less than 50,000 per day, for a series of articles he wrote on forced, live organ harvesting in China.

2013 Newswomen's Club Award – The Epoch Times New York reporter Genevieve Belmaker won a Front Page Award from the Newswomen's Club of New York for reporting on the effects of Hurricane Sandy, in the category of newspapers with a circulation of less than 100,000 per day.


Mysterious Mass-Delivery of Right-Wing Newspaper Raises Questions in Brooklyn
Brooklyn residents are reporting a huge unsolicited drop of the pro-Trump publication The Epoch Times this election year


https://www.bkreader.com/2020/09/03/mysterious-mass-delivery-of-right-wing-newspaper-in-brooklyn-raises-questions/

The Obscure Newspaper Fueling the Far-Right in Europe
The conspiratorial bent of The Epoch Times is forging common cause with European nationalists.

https://newrepublic.com/article/155076/obscure-newspaper-fueling-far-right-europe

The challenge of combating fake news in Asian American communities
Language diversity within the AAPI community means misinformation is difficult to track.

By Terry Nguyen  Nov 27, 2020, 11:00am EST

https://www.vox.com/identities/21579752/asian-american-misinformation-after-2020

10-15-19
What’s the deal with the ‘Epoch Times’? Here’s why you’re seeing so much pro-Trump content
The news outlet was one of the biggest pro-Trump advertisers on Facebook until it was removed from the platform in August.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90417298/whats-the-deal-with-the-epoch-times-heres-why-youre-seeing-so-much-pro-trump-content

Some Canadians who received unsolicited copy of Epoch Times upset by claim that China was behind virus
Special edition delivered to homes to attract new subscribers
Andrea Bellemare, Jason Ho, Katie Nicholson · CBC News ·

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/epoch-times-coronavirus-bioweapon-1.5548217

Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/

READERS REACT
Readers React: Readers should know the truth behind The Epoch Times


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2019-10-13/readers-should-know-the-truth-behind-the-epoch-times-utak

Why Is a Far-Right Conspiracist Newspaper Being Stocked at the Capitol?
CHASE WOODRUFF | OCTOBER 29, 2019 | 5:09AM


https://www.westword.com/news/why-is-far-right-conspiracist-newspaper-epoch-times-being-stocked-at-colorado-capitol-11537390

How US conspiracy theorists are targeting local government in the UK
Councillors and Scottish politicians are the subject of a misinformation campaign by the Epoch Times, a website the New York Times has called “one of the most mysterious fixtures of the pro-Trump media universe”.


https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2020/04/councillors-politicians-uk-trump-conspiracy-theory-outlet-epoch-times-coronavirus

Note: every single article I found that had anything positive to say about the Epoch Times was actually written by the Epoch Times. This publication's owners are masters of self promotion. They are also very adept at flooding social media with their propaganda, such as Facebook, twitter, Youtube, Google, etc. Facebook has routinely taken the Epoch Times misinformation articles down.

I honestly don't expect any of this to give you pause. The Epoch Times is giving you exactly what you want. Why would you question the accuracy of any of what they claim and promote. You will echo Trump and claim that all mainstream media is fake media. And the subversive media you follow is telling the truth. Time will tell.

Now I know where you get your ideology from. Everything you post isn’t just left leaning it’s left propaganda. You just posted links from some of the most conservative/Trump hating shit you find. The same ones went along with the BS they claimed they had on Trump that 1000% backfired
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 08:01:33 PM
The plot thickens


https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/12/brian-kemp-daughter-boyfriend-car-crash/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 04, 2020, 08:03:24 PM
The plot thickens


https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/12/brian-kemp-daughter-boyfriend-car-crash/

Wayne Dupree is legit as fuck.   ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 04, 2020, 08:51:53 PM
Wayne Dupree is legit as fuck.   ::)

Yeah, he is. Are you saying this person is still alive and this didn’t happen?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 04, 2020, 09:05:57 PM
As stupid as you are, you wouldn't know it if he did... BIRTHER.
Is Coach really a birther?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 09:09:23 PM
Coach

Abe Lincoln has been owned every day till Sunday

Why waste your good energy bro ?

Cmon man

You know the thing

That thing
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 04, 2020, 09:10:10 PM
People don’t seem to realize how absentee ballots work.

The state sends them out. Each ballot that gets sent out actually has a barcode or something similar that is linked to who it was sent out to. Every ballot, whether it gets used or not, is actually a unique document because of that barcode. This also applies to the envelopes the ballot goes out with. They are a matched set.

People fill them out and send them back to the state via usps. Usps brings them to the County Clerks office, or their secure warehouse. Somewhere along this path to that warehouse they are scanned and it is recorded which barcodes, and therefore, which people have returned their ballots. Nobody knows how they voted yet since it is still inside the envelopes. This process also gives the count of how many ballots have been received. This is how the news can say in the days before the election how many mail in ballots have been received so far.

On election night once the counting starts at the counting place the ballots are slowly transported over to that place AS NEEDED after the same day ballots are counted.

Any ballots that get placed in any room of the counting center at any time have to have come from the county clerk secure warehouse.

Why can’t outside ballots just be brought in? Because they wouldn’t have the same barcodes that have already been scanned when they arrived at the county clerk days or weeks ago. And they would throw off the numbers. The number of ballots that arrive to the county clerk have to match the number that are counted over at the counting place.

Get it?

Does the usps use suit cases to transport mail?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 04, 2020, 10:05:42 PM
Does the usps use suit cases to transport mail?
no, but the county clerk uses black plastic totes to transport ballots from their offices to the counting room.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 11:36:59 PM
What’s the positive for you if Biden wins jwb?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 05, 2020, 12:58:11 AM
Greed drives them, and hatred if you don`t give them what they want to take, it is pure socialism a.k.a. communism agenda they are pushing for.

Stealing, lying, snitching, brainwashing, killing of innocent, corruption in all pores of the society, that is what is the end result of leftie ambitions.






Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 05, 2020, 08:37:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EobohfBU0AAAytD?format=png&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 05, 2020, 09:41:47 AM
Is Coach really a birther?

HAHAHAHA....  ask him.

Or go back and read 2008-2016 posts for the 8 years of him constantly crying about it and promising he "guarandamntee" that Obama would be removed just as soon as *insert asinine condition here* happened.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mphgrove on December 05, 2020, 09:56:47 AM
Can we retire this thread and discuss other things or do we need to wait until Dec 14?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 05, 2020, 10:01:11 AM
Can we retire this thread and discuss other things or do we need to wait until Dec 14?


The best way to retire a thread is to keep bumping.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 05, 2020, 10:15:27 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EobohfBU0AAAytD?format=png&name=4096x4096)

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 05, 2020, 10:29:18 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 05, 2020, 11:45:08 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EobohfBU0AAAytD?format=png&name=4096x4096)
The 2nd win could be at the Supreme Court.  All the losses wouldn't matter.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 05, 2020, 12:33:51 PM
Can we retire this thread and discuss other things or do we need to wait until Dec 14?

(https://staging.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/nothing_to_see_here_naked_gun.gif)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2020, 01:42:14 PM
Now I know where you get your ideology from. Everything you post isn’t just left leaning it’s left propaganda. You just posted links from some of the most conservative/Trump hating shit you find. The same ones went along with the BS they claimed they had on Trump that 1000% backfired

Why don't you counter my posts with information that does not come Epoch or one of it's subsidiaries which touts the accuracy and non-biased reporting by the Epoch Times? I would really like to read it/these. And as I said, I searched the internet for something positive about the Epoch Times that didn't actually come from them. What you previously posted was from the Epoch Times web-page. Of course it's positive. Why would they put something negative in their own 'about' section?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2020, 01:48:22 PM
The plot thickens


https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/12/brian-kemp-daughter-boyfriend-car-crash/

It is truly tragic when someone loses their life in an auto accident since almost all auto accidents are preventable. However, it is hardly rare that this happens. In fact, in the United States in 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes – this is about 106 people who died everyday in auto accidents in the U.S.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 05, 2020, 02:00:39 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 05, 2020, 02:04:53 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2020, 02:15:15 PM


Hmm, those suitcases look suspiciously like ballot boxes.

(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_46/3425860/201104-detroit-ballots-mn-1155_a589a90a418af92d58a2f5d2e098042f.fit-2000w.JPG)
Election workers count absentee ballots at TCF Center on Nov. 4, 2020 in Detroit.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 05, 2020, 05:14:45 PM


The 2018 Dallas election used Dominion and encountered the same irregularities we are seeing today.  Over the last two years a team of engineers has reverse engineered how those hacks were done.  There are about ten ways the dominion system can be hacked.  Engineers gave Dominion a two out of ten for security. 

Patrick Byrne provided Sidney Powell many of the missing pieces they needed for the Kraken.

Another interesting thing Patrick said in his interview with Rosanne is that the 2016 election was also hacked, so Hillary believed she would win.  A foreign entity interfered with that hack giving Donald the win. 

That's why Hillary was so mad election night, because what they did for Biden this year, they were supposed to do for Hillary.  The foreign entity is not named.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 05, 2020, 06:01:10 PM
Hmm, those suitcases look suspiciously like ballot boxes.

(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_46/3425860/201104-detroit-ballots-mn-1155_a589a90a418af92d58a2f5d2e098042f.fit-2000w.JPG)
Election workers count absentee ballots at TCF Center on Nov. 4, 2020 in Detroit.

I am cautiously with you at this point but I will say this- I really truly hope the allegations are all bullshit. If the allegations are true then I do demand truth. However, I am not sure either way right now. Trump is not slowing down at all and that means one of two things, hes either a maniac driven by ego with no regard at all for the damage his pursuit of never losing anything ever or he is a true American Patriot determined to get the truth out no matter the cost. The cost is high and escalating. People are deeply DEEPLY divided and its getting worse by the day. Meantime covid is raging around and people are dying but we cannot get to covid just yet because the fucking election from a MONTH AGO is still the nations primary focus. Its unbelievable. I would speculate lives are being lost right now over this election, it had damned well better be worth it.

I gotta throw this out there too- Trumps allegations are far fetched. This is conspiracy on a MASSIVE SCALE apparently executed with precision any military would be envious of. We are talking about the actions of presumed what, hundreds of people? Where are the defectors? The fuck ups? The people bribed into coming forward and ratting out their co conspirators? Its a work of art if true, this election tampering and voter fraud etc. I find it very hard to believe and testimony alone will never change my opinion. Testimony is weighed as evidence in court i realize that, but to me just because people say the same thing does not make it true.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 05, 2020, 06:09:58 PM


The 2018 Dallas election used Dominion and encountered the same irregularities we are seeing today.  Over the last two years a team of engineers has reverse engineered how those hacks were done.  There are about ten ways the dominion system can be hacked.  Engineers gave Dominion a two out of ten for security. 

Patrick Byrne provided Sidney Powell many of the missing pieces they needed for the Kraken.

Another interesting thing Patrick said in his interview with Rosanne is that the 2016 election was also hacked, so Hillary believed she would win.  A foreign entity interfered with that hack giving Donald the win. 

That's why Hillary was so mad election night, because what they did for Biden this year, they were supposed to do for Hillary.  The foreign entity is not named.

Foreign entity? Israel? The NSA? What an ambiguous statement.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 05, 2020, 06:29:44 PM
Foreign entity? Israel? The NSA? What an ambiguous statement.

@2:40 to 5:00.  They don't say who, but they say they're not in this country and they admire them.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 05, 2020, 07:04:03 PM
I see Trumps angle clear as day. He is exposing Bidens biggest weakness, PRESSURE. Right now Biden is under tremendous pressure and Trump is not slowing down one bit. If Joe Biden wants Trump to acknowledge his claim as being fit to lead the country, Biden has to step up to him and declare the allegations of voter fraud all bullshit. As president china and russia will exploit weakness to the fullest and Trump is standing up for US right now to the fullest. I dont know if Joe xan do it but if he's fit to run this country he damned well better find the conviction soon cuz Trump is polarizing and energizing half this country into action. Biden will be president of less than half the country by the time he is sworn in.

I think the voter fraud allegations are speculative at best. Biden should go for it. Unite the damned country Joe or admit you cant hack it. Thats my opinion anyway.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 05, 2020, 07:04:50 PM
@2:40 to 5:00.  They don't say who, but they say they're not in this country and they admire them.


So aliens then? Slowly they leak the truth to us...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Zillotch on December 05, 2020, 07:34:25 PM
People are deeply DEEPLY divided and its getting worse by the day.

yes, the world has been divided into 2.

so that it can then b combined into 1.

both sides will become so desperate, that both sides will go along with the 'cure'... just to get some semblance of a life back.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 05, 2020, 08:00:20 PM
Hmm, those suitcases look suspiciously like ballot boxes.

(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_46/3425860/201104-detroit-ballots-mn-1155_a589a90a418af92d58a2f5d2e098042f.fit-2000w.JPG)
Election workers count absentee ballots at TCF Center on Nov. 4, 2020 in Detroit.
And they are slightly under the tables....criminals!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 06, 2020, 07:31:25 AM
Any new lawsuits won yet?  Oh it's Sunday, courts are closed.  Don't worry the losses will start again tomorrow.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 06, 2020, 09:46:52 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 06, 2020, 10:31:20 AM
Any new lawsuits won yet?  Oh it's Sunday, courts are closed.  Don't worry the losses will start again tomorrow.
You better hope so.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 06, 2020, 11:42:58 AM
You better hope so.

No need to hope.  At this point additional losses won't matter.  Except to serve as late night joke fodder.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 06, 2020, 02:38:24 PM
So no on the 200 bro  you offered and the 500 you offered on the politics forum

No on both ?

Your retired commander salary get cut ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Estimated on December 06, 2020, 02:54:34 PM
 1-46?

Not sure who is filing all those lawsuits, because Trumps legal Team has only filed 3? I suspect its democrats filing nonsense to inflate the number to create the illusion they are losing everywhere.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 06, 2020, 03:00:26 PM
They lie ?

Nuh uh
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 06, 2020, 03:32:33 PM
According to Giuliani the cases are likely to go to the state legislature in Georgia, Arizona, and Michigan, which are all majority Republican.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: J. Richards on December 06, 2020, 03:40:10 PM
Trump is a bit loud, but get's things done... and not afraid of other countries smack.... Biden is just on his way to heaven... Kumala is just a smiling clown in a pant-suit.... that said.... cheating... oh yeah... braids-lady and her cohorts dragging out ballots after the rest leave.. and the USB handoff and palm ... well... they acted guilty... even the USB handoff... looked like a kid sneaking candy ... 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2020, 03:53:20 PM
I see Trumps angle clear as day. He is exposing Bidens biggest weakness, PRESSURE. Right now Biden is under tremendous pressure and Trump is not slowing down one bit. If Joe Biden wants Trump to acknowledge his claim as being fit to lead the country, Biden has to step up to him and declare the allegations of voter fraud all bullshit. As president china and russia will exploit weakness to the fullest and Trump is standing up for US right now to the fullest. I dont know if Joe xan do it but if he's fit to run this country he damned well better find the conviction soon cuz Trump is polarizing and energizing half this country into action. Biden will be president of less than half the country by the time he is sworn in.

I think the voter fraud allegations are speculative at best. Biden should go for it. Unite the damned country Joe or admit you cant hack it. Thats my opinion anyway.

Personally, I think Biden is doing exactly what he should be. He's getting on with the business of preparing to take over the Presidency on January 20,  2021 by assembling his cabinet and keep the public informed about his picks. All the while presenting a aura being cool, calm and collected.

Trump is having the meltdown of all meltdowns and he's pretty much being ignored by most of the country and the Media. Trump is doing what he does so well which is create an environment of utter chaos. The public is tired of it.

The state's electors will meet on December 14, 2020 (8 days from today), and send six copies of their votes to the President of the Senate, that state's Secretary of State, the Archivist of the United States and to the federal judge in the district where the electors met. Congress will count the votes during a joint session on January 6, 2021.

What happens if Congress doesn’t approve of the Electoral College results?
ANSWER:

The presidency is decided in the House of Representatives with each state delegation getting one vote. The vice presidency is determined in the Senate.

 

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2020, 04:05:57 PM
1-46?

Not sure who is filing all those lawsuits, because Trumps legal Team has only filed 3? I suspect its democrats filing nonsense to inflate the number to create the illusion they are losing everywhere.

According to an Associated Press tally of roughly 50 cases brought by Trump’s campaign and his allies, more than 30 have been rejected or dropped, and about a dozen are awaiting action.

The advocacy group Democracy Docket put Trump’s losses even higher, tweeting on Friday that Trump’s team had lost 46 post-election lawsuits following several fresh losses in several states on Friday.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/04/trump-election-lawsuits-losses-michigan-nevada-georgia-arizona
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 04:29:55 PM
Rudy Giuliani: 3 State Legislatures May Change Electoral College Voters

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/rudy-giuliani-three-state-legislatures-may-change-electoral-college-voters_3606962.html

Download our app to read more for free at https://ept.ms/DownloadApp
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 06, 2020, 04:40:35 PM
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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 04:43:17 PM
.

I’d be willing to bet your account and you leave for Venezuela if this was anywhere a fair election he wouldn’t have 45-50mil at best.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 05:03:56 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/protest-erupts-front-radical-mi-sec-state-jocelyn-bensons-home-lawmakers-discover-mi-county-clerks-ordered-delete-election-related-data-computers-video/?utm_source=Parler&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 06, 2020, 05:08:46 PM
I’d be willing to bet your account and you leave for Venezuela if this was anywhere a fair election he wouldn’t have 45-50mil at best.

Well of course YOU are stupid enough to believe that.

And what is this "panic" you keep posting?  There is no panic.  Biden won.  Period.  Trump is out the door.

Guess what?  The first thing Biden is going to do when he walks into the WH is hang Obama's portrait.   He'll hang Trump's portrait too when it is done.  In the bunker.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: irishdave on December 06, 2020, 05:11:53 PM
.

Cringe.
The more likely scenario is he fell a couple of steps down the stairs during one of his dementia episodes in the middle of the night
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 05:50:24 PM
Well of course YOU are stupid enough to believe that.

And what is this "panic" you keep posting?  There is no panic.  Biden won.  Period.  Trump is out the door.

Guess what?  The first thing Biden is going to do when he walks into the WH is hang Obama's portrait.   He'll hang Trump's portrait too when it is done.  In the bunker.

Probably, but you do understand if those three states are overturned, those votes get taken from Biden and goes to Trump..right? But who am I kidding, of course you don’t realize that🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 06, 2020, 05:54:09 PM
I’d be willing to bet your account and you leave for Venezuela if this was anywhere a fair election he wouldn’t have 45-50mil at best.

your guy got his ass kicked....fair and square (don't believe then just go ask all the Republican Secretaries of State)

the only question is whining little bitches like you are going to be all cried out

hey here's a bit of trivia for you.  Who is the only POTUS who lost the popular vote twice ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Estimated on December 06, 2020, 06:22:53 PM
According to an Associated Press tally of roughly 50 cases brought by Trump’s campaign and his allies, more than 30 have been rejected or dropped, and about a dozen are awaiting action.

The advocacy group Democracy Docket put Trump’s losses even higher, tweeting on Friday that Trump’s team had lost 46 post-election lawsuits following several fresh losses in several states on Friday.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/04/trump-election-lawsuits-losses-michigan-nevada-georgia-arizona

Key word there is "Allies". Which can mean anyone, because they arent on Trumps Actual Legal team.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 06:42:44 PM
your guy got his ass kicked....fair and square (don't believe then just go ask all the Republican Secretaries of State)

the only question is whining little bitches like you are going to be all cried out

hey here's a bit of trivia for you.  Who is the only POTUS who lost the popular vote twice ?

Actually, we didn’t. Your “blue wave” wasn’t even a puddle jumper
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 06:54:59 PM
your guy got his ass kicked....fair and square (don't believe then just go ask all the Republican Secretaries of State)

the only question is whining little bitches like you are going to be all cried out

hey here's a bit of trivia for you.  Who is the only POTUS who lost the popular vote twice ?

I stand by it and the proof is there with more coming out.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Fortress on December 06, 2020, 07:49:05 PM
According to an Associated Press tally of roughly 50 cases brought by Trump’s campaign and his allies, more than 30 have been rejected or dropped, and about a dozen are awaiting action.

The advocacy group Democracy Docket put Trump’s losses even higher, tweeting on Friday that Trump’s team had lost 46 post-election lawsuits following several fresh losses in several states on Friday.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/04/trump-election-lawsuits-losses-michigan-nevada-georgia-arizona

No one cares what you think.

You’ve had a cock in your mouth.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 07:53:30 PM
According to an Associated Press tally of roughly 50 cases brought by Trump’s campaign and his allies, more than 30 have been rejected or dropped, and about a dozen are awaiting action.

The advocacy group Democracy Docket put Trump’s losses even higher, tweeting on Friday that Trump’s team had lost 46 post-election lawsuits following several fresh losses in several states on Friday.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/04/trump-election-lawsuits-losses-michigan-nevada-georgia-arizona

Trump attorneys only brought three cases. The MSM is lying to you again
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2020, 07:58:14 PM
Trump attorneys only brought three cases. The MSM is lying to you again

Seems drastically low there Coach. Have you got a link to that information?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 08:13:12 PM
Seems drastically low there Coach. Have you got a link to that information?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2020, 08:22:11 PM


So Rudy saying only 3 cases were brought by Trump and his allies to overturn the election by having votes thrown out is your source? Do you personally find Rudy credible?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2020, 08:23:36 PM
https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/

This article outlines specifically the many lawsuits. Are you suggesting it's all fabricated? Was Rudy speaking only of cases he personally filed, but not the campaign?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 06, 2020, 08:25:47 PM
Insert Democrat owned link here

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2020, 08:28:36 PM
Insert Democrat owned link here

Instead of dismissing the information outright did you take a look at the cases? Do you believe Rudy is more reliable as a source?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 08:30:50 PM
https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/

This article outlines specifically the many lawsuits. Are you suggesting it's all fabricated? Was Rudy speaking only of cases he personally filed, but not the campaign?

What campaign? Do you realize there are many attorneys working pro-Bono on the Trumps behalf that don’t work for the administration?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 08:34:14 PM
https://trendingpolitics.com/report-federal-agents-raid-maricopa-az-home-owned-by-it-expert-in-voter-data-theft-investigation/?utm_source=stonewall&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2020, 08:36:12 PM
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e

AP news is more reputable than Rudy

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-2020-trump-campaign-election-lawsuits-stand/story?id=74041748

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289


https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54724960

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933112418/the-trump-campaign-has-had-almost-no-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve

If we are at a place where a blurb from Rudy Guliani carries more weight than half a dozen news organizations that give specific information, it's no wonder we are in the shape we're in these days.  :)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 08:39:43 PM
Instead of dismissing the information outright did you take a look at the cases? Do you believe Rudy is more reliable as a source?

Yes, he absolutely is and has proven he is. Let me ask you. As a retired Detective, if you see a history in the person(s) you’re investigating are you all of the sudden going to take his/her word for it? For four years the left-leaning MSM and their publications who have a history of making shit up about Trump that have been proven wrong are all of the sudden going to tell the truth? Of course not because their credibility has been damaged.

You asked for a link, I posted a video
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2020, 08:40:55 PM
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e

AP news is more reputable than Rudy

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-2020-trump-campaign-election-lawsuits-stand/story?id=74041748

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289


https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54724960

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933112418/the-trump-campaign-has-had-almost-no-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve

If we are at a place where a blurb from Rudy Guliani carries more weight than half a dozen news organizations that give specific information, it's no wonder we are in the shape we're in these days.  :)

Every.single.one of those links are leftist and even more, the AP story against Barr was proven false. Fuck
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 06, 2020, 09:24:12 PM


AP news is more reputable than Rudy



(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=439767.0;attach=484585)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2020, 10:31:22 PM
Every.single.one of those links are leftist and even more, the AP story against Barr was proven false. Fuck

Yeah, I guess you are right. You have provided overwhelming evidence to support your claim. I apparently had bad information
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 12:40:35 AM
Probably, but you do understand if those three states are overturned, those votes get taken from Biden and goes to Trump..right? But who am I kidding, of course you don’t realize that🤦‍♂️

It is a moot point since the election results will not be overturned in those states or any other states. There is a week to go until the Electoral College votes. Not long after that the Senate will announce the results. Do you honestly believe Trump's shenanigans are going to change anything?  It may come down to you, Trump and Chaos being the last three people on this planet to give up your delusions about this election....and maybe you'll never let it go. Sorry, Biden won the election....end of story.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Board_SHERIF on December 07, 2020, 05:27:38 AM
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e

AP news is more reputable than Rudy

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-2020-trump-campaign-election-lawsuits-stand/story?id=74041748

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289


https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54724960

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933112418/the-trump-campaign-has-had-almost-no-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve

If we are at a place where a blurb from Rudy Guliani carries more weight than half a dozen news organizations that give specific information, it's no wonder we are in the shape we're in these days.  :)

LOL you must be trolling ??
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Body-Buildah on December 07, 2020, 05:29:16 AM
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e

AP news is more reputable than Rudy

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-2020-trump-campaign-election-lawsuits-stand/story?id=74041748

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289


https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54724960

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933112418/the-trump-campaign-has-had-almost-no-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve

If we are at a place where a blurb from Rudy Guliani carries more weight than half a dozen news organizations that give specific information, it's no wonder we are in the shape we're in these days.  :)

"News Organizations"  ::)

As soon as you find a real one, let us know. Your Mother carries more weight than all of them combined.  ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 07:19:23 AM
insert multiple links here all owned by cnn news or concast

insert cnn

insert AP (also owned by cnn)

insert insert

insert

why use your own brain when you can insert it?

insert democrat link here
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2020, 08:21:25 AM
.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 07, 2020, 08:25:10 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EopbM7uXIAE82-7?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2020, 08:27:00 AM
It is a moot point since the election results will not be overturned in those states or any other states. There is a week to go until the Electoral College votes. Not long after that the Senate will announce the results. Do you honestly believe Trump's shenanigans are going to change anything?  It may come down to you, Trump and Chaos being the last three people on this planet to give up your delusions about this election....and maybe you'll never let it go. Sorry, Biden won the election....end of story.

Probably will win but fairly by any stretch of the imagination. That date to the electoral counts being settled isn’t written in stone especially when you have the biggest election fraud in history going on. No one takes Biden or any of his picks seriously. Biden himself hasn’t done anything remotely honest in his 50 years in politics... he knows no other way.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2020, 08:28:07 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EopbM7uXIAE82-7?format=jpg&name=medium)

Wrong again minion. 3 is number noob
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 08:45:25 AM
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e

AP news is more reputable than Rudy

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-2020-trump-campaign-election-lawsuits-stand/story?id=74041748

https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289


https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54724960

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933112418/the-trump-campaign-has-had-almost-no-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve

If we are at a place where a blurb from Rudy Guliani carries more weight than half a dozen news organizations that give specific information, it's no wonder we are in the shape we're in these days.  :)

A very large majority of very active posters on Getbig believe that the media carries no weight and that the media most people in the world consider a good source of information is just 'fake news' which is a phase they learned from liar Trump, their hero. So yes, it is exactly why we are in the shape we're in today. Remember these are the same folks who believe QAnon is real and that Tump is facing down a shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles. I you disagree with these misguided people, it means you also are a pedophile or worse.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tatoo on December 07, 2020, 08:49:33 AM
A very large majority of very active posters on Getbig believe that the media carries no weight and that the media most people in the world consider a good source of information is just 'fake news' which is a phase they learned from liar Trump, their hero. So yes, it is exactly why we are in the shape we're in today. Remember these are the same folks who believe QAnon is real and that Tump is facing down a shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles. I you disagree with these misguided people, it means you also are a pedophile or worse.

so do you honestly think that the media is right down the middle? and fair?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 07, 2020, 08:53:13 AM
Define media and what its role is - it is nothing more than propaganda backed by huge amounts of money, a whore has more credibility than any of the people you see on television giving you the "news".

They don`t report or investigate, they create opinions, they are opinion creators at best. I guess some people still go by if its in the news it`s true...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 09:01:19 AM
man

what if trumpster had a son who jerked off on camera and smoked crack ?  , and was exposing his family to being extorted? that would be insane eh?

oh wait thats ,,  ,

nevermind :-X

insert democrat socialist link here

AP news

Cnn
yahoo
BBc

CNBC

cbs

abc

bloomberg
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 07, 2020, 09:03:41 AM
Define media and what its role is - it is nothing more than propaganda backed by huge amounts of money, a whore has more credibility than any of the people you see on television giving you the "news".

They don`t report or investigate, they create opinions, they are opinion creators at best. I guess some people still go by if its in the news it`s true...
These days they are for entertainment purposes only.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 09:16:43 AM
Yes, he absolutely is and has proven he is. Let me ask you. As a retired Detective, if you see a history in the person(s) you’re investigating are you all of the sudden going to take his/her word for it? For four years the left-leaning MSM and their publications who have a history of making shit up about Trump that have been proven wrong are all of the sudden going to tell the truth? Of course not because their credibility has been damaged.

You asked for a link, I posted a video

You see proof where the majority people see just lies and corruption. MSM is not just one person it is a huge media conglomerate, hence why it is called main stream media and not an outlier like The Glen Beck program, Sean Hannity show, Rush Limbaugh show, The Epoch Times, Drudge Report, Breitbart or The Blaze. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 09:23:38 AM
gee I wonder if that will change?

goly gee

i wonder if main stream wont be jack shit in the coming years

gee goly willikers

goleeeee geee

i wonder if outsiders will be the mainstream

goleee gee willikers
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 07, 2020, 09:27:31 AM
A very large majority of very active posters on Getbig believe that the media carries no weight and that the media most people in the world consider a good source of information is just 'fake news' which is a phase they learned from liar Trump, their hero. So yes, it is exactly why we are in the shape we're in today. Remember these are the same folks who believe QAnon is real and that Tump is facing down a shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles. I you disagree with these misguided people, it means you also are a pedophile or worse.

This has nothing to do with party lines.

I'm a registered Independent who is more libertarian than supportive of either shit party.  You can look up 2 year old posts where I've stated a dishonest media and big tech content manipulation are our greatest threats.

But you'd have to be a fool to trust the media without doing any kind of research.

They've shown time and time again they are biased at best, outright propaganda machines for their party at worst.

Do you really need any more evidence?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 09:28:58 AM
gee I wonder if that will change?

goly gee

i wonder if main stream wont be jack shit in the coming years

gee goly willikers

goleeeee geee

i wonder if outsiders will be the mainstream

goleee gee willikers

Is this Hillbilly speak or are you mocking Sara Palin?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2020, 09:47:58 AM
This has nothing to do with party lines.

I'm a registered Independent who is more libertarian than supportive of either shit party.  You can look up 2 year old posts where I've stated a dishonest media and big tech content manipulation are our greatest threats.

But you'd have to be a fool to trust the media without doing any kind of research.

They've shown time and time again they are biased at best, outright propaganda machines for their party at worst.

Do you really need any more evidence?

yep, we're still going to need some actual evidence

your fever dreams, musings, fantasies and preconceived biases don't count



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 09:55:02 AM
still waiting on cnn to confirm

or yahoo
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 07, 2020, 10:09:51 AM
Strawman needs "actual" evidence of media bias.

Think about that.

Never mind russiagate, big tech getting called in front of congress, facebook admitting they have to change their algorithm, and  every other false narrative over the past four years......nope, still needs "proof".  ::)

Shows you why you should never have any conversation with him, as he does not live in the real world.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 10:18:45 AM
dont fret

ill straighten him out once i get back to florida

i leave tomorrow
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2020, 10:20:51 AM
Strawman needs "actual" evidence of media bias.

Think about that.

Never mind russiagate, big tech getting called in front of congress, facebook admitting they have to change their algorithm, and  every other false narrative over the past four years......nope, still needs "proof".  ::)

Shows you why you should never have any conversation with him, as he does not live in the real world.

yeah, imagine that..wanting to see actual evidence

I noticed you didn't bother to post anything to support any of your claims

You must be following the Rudy Giuliani strategy of making idiotic claims and then having zero proof to support them and wondering why you keep losing.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 10:22:59 AM
actual

evidence

actual facts

cnn approved

ap has called it

yes

actual confirmed evidence for actual people named straw

actual evidence for those who seeks actual facts and evidence

insert link here

yahoo confirmed?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Automation on December 07, 2020, 10:29:43 AM
As an Englishman, I find all of this quite perplexing. It’s as if politics has almost become religion for some in the states. People just believe what they want and refuse to countenance anything else. Can’t both sides just accept that this division is a distraction which keeps the common man in his place? Real power sits above the minutiae of politics.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 10:41:48 AM
no religion here

just money

economics is god


how's brexit going bro?

your in no position to lecture

hairy cuntlip
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 07, 2020, 10:59:34 AM
I guess strawdick skipped the entire hearing with Dorsey and Zuckerberg, didn't watch a shred of news before Mueller found nothing,  and is too fucking lazy to do a google and find things like this:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/barro/files/04_0614_liberalmedia_bw.pdf

The Liberal Media: It's No Myth
Many people think the mainstream media have a liberal bias. Media spokesmen,
however, usually deny such claims. So who's right? Is there a left-wing bias, or has the
right wing conspired not only to influence the media but also to create a false image of
unfairness? Some scientific evidence is available in a continuing study, A Measure of
Media Bias, by Tim Groseclose of the University of California at Los Angeles and Jeff
Milyo of the University of Chicago, presented last March at Stanford University's Workshop on the Media &
Economic Performance. These researchers set up an objective measure of bias in U.S. television networks,
newspapers, and magazines. The main finding is that the liberal inclination is pronounced. Although Fox News
emerges as conservative, it is not nearly as far to the right as many outlets are to the left.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 11:03:04 AM
post only cnn approved or yahoo links please
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 07, 2020, 11:13:59 AM
post only cnn approved or yahoo links please

my bad
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 11:56:09 AM
Strawman needs "actual" evidence of media bias.

Think about that.

Never mind russiagate, big tech getting called in front of congress, facebook admitting they have to change their algorithm, and  every other false narrative over the past four years......nope, still needs "proof".  ::)

Shows you why you should never have any conversation with him, as he does not live in the real world.

The media did not invent Russia Gate, make Congress investigate big tech or suggest Facebook change their algorithm. Yes media can be bias either to the left or to the right.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 12:25:27 PM
damn son

that copy and paste

has your brain been copied and pasted as well?

ps.  for your reply please copy and paste some big giant article about nothing
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 12:43:09 PM
damn son

that copy and paste

has your brain been copied and pasted as well?

ps.  for your reply please copy and paste some big giant article about nothing

Are you older than me?...how is that possible? That chart was a small step above copy and past. It was a print screen, save and paste. At least the chart is colorful and for those who care about such things, rather informative.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 07, 2020, 12:49:55 PM
I guess strawdick skipped the entire hearing with Dorsey and Zuckerberg, didn't watch a shred of news before Mueller found nothing,  and is too fucking lazy to do a google and find things like this:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/barro/files/04_0614_liberalmedia_bw.pdf

The Liberal Media: It's No Myth
Many people think the mainstream media have a liberal bias. Media spokesmen,
however, usually deny such claims. So who's right? Is there a left-wing bias, or has the
right wing conspired not only to influence the media but also to create a false image of
unfairness? Some scientific evidence is available in a continuing study, A Measure of
Media Bias, by Tim Groseclose of the University of California at Los Angeles and Jeff
Milyo of the University of Chicago, presented last March at Stanford University's Workshop on the Media &
Economic Performance. These researchers set up an objective measure of bias in U.S. television networks,
newspapers, and magazines. The main finding is that the liberal inclination is pronounced. Although Fox News
emerges as conservative, it is not nearly as far to the right as many outlets are to the left.


another way out of date link?

The one above is 6 YEARS OLD correction it's 16 years old

btw- who gives a fuck if "the media' has a left wing bias

reality has a left wing bias (go look at polls supporting planned parenthood, gun legislation etc..)_

People can CHOOSE to watch whatever they want and as has been pointed out MANY TIMES on this board.. the right wing Propaganda machine of Fox News gets more ratings (free choice of consumers) than left wing sources

You know else studies show...?  that right wing media consumers are LESS INFORMED

Another fail

What else do you have?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 12:57:43 PM
another way out of date link?

The one above is 6 YEARS OLD

btw- who gives a fuck if "the media' has a left wing bias

reality has a left wing bias (go look at polls supporting planned parenthood, gun legislation etc..)_

People can CHOOSE to watch whatever they want and as has been pointed out MANY TIMES on this board.. the right wing Propaganda machine of Fox News gets more ratings (free choice of consumers) than left wing sources

You know else studies show...?  that right wing media consumers are LESS INFORMED

Another fail

What else do you have?
FOX News has little or no competition.  ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NBC are competing with one another for the same audience. And, liberals are more likely to be college educated and therefore get some of their information from print news. Many Getbigers don't know words that are more than 4 letters. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 01:03:12 PM
Are you older than me?...how is that possible? That chart was a small step above copy and past. It was a print screen, save and paste. At least the chart is colorful and for those who care about such things, rather informative.

older? mentally yes

copy and paste on my son

save and paste

what the fuck ever and paste

throw your mushy brain in the trash and paste

whatever you call it

its very weak

insert link here..............

cnn yahoo nbc abc ect ect
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 07, 2020, 01:51:20 PM
The media did not invent Russia Gate, make Congress investigate big tech or suggest Facebook change their algorithm. Yes media can be bias either to the left or to the right.

Really?  "The media didn't invent Russia Gate"?

It was the media's COVERAGE of Russiagate that was biased.

Facebook and Twitter are part of big tech, which is also biased.

Are you completely missing the point?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 07, 2020, 01:52:23 PM
Lol, strawdick thinks the media has gotten LESS biased since 16 years ago.

fucking tool.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: loco on December 07, 2020, 02:41:44 PM
(https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Screen-Shot-2020-12-07-at-1.52.32-AM.png)

(https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Screen-Shot-2020-12-07-at-2.09.53-AM.png)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 02:44:05 PM
FACT THEN I FACT CHECKED THE FACTS WHICH EQUALS FACTS
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 07, 2020, 03:54:34 PM
I guess strawdick skipped the entire hearing with Dorsey and Zuckerberg, didn't watch a shred of news before Mueller found nothing,  and is too fucking lazy to do a google and find things like this:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/barro/files/04_0614_liberalmedia_bw.pdf

The Liberal Media: It's No Myth
Many people think the mainstream media have a liberal bias. Media spokesmen,
however, usually deny such claims. So who's right? Is there a left-wing bias, or has the
right wing conspired not only to influence the media but also to create a false image of
unfairness? Some scientific evidence is available in a continuing study, A Measure of
Media Bias, by Tim Groseclose of the University of California at Los Angeles and Jeff
Milyo of the University of Chicago, presented last March at Stanford University's Workshop on the Media &
Economic Performance. These researchers set up an objective measure of bias in U.S. television networks,
newspapers, and magazines. The main finding is that the liberal inclination is pronounced. Although Fox News
emerges as conservative, it is not nearly as far to the right as many outlets are to the left.


Strawman barely reads our posts on getbig and when he does he quickly categorizes people into two groups. You are in group "trumptard" so any responses from him on your posts have that connotation attached. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 07, 2020, 07:15:51 PM
Trump: "YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF BIG THINGS THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS"  :D

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Automation on December 07, 2020, 09:37:11 PM
no religion here

just money

economics is god


how's brexit going bro?

your in no position to lecture

hairy cuntlip

Your (you’re) a special one. Good luck in all your endeavours.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 10:42:58 PM
Your you’re you are

There their they are

Dumb dumb dumb but your still

Dumb
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 07, 2020, 10:46:11 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 07:13:29 AM
Should be interesting if accepted 🤔

Texas Files Supreme Court Election Lawsuit Against Four Battleground States

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/texas-files-supreme-court-election-lawsuit-against-four-battleground-states_3609460.html

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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 08, 2020, 07:57:45 AM
When states are suing each other you know it's headed to the SCOTUS.  8)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 08, 2020, 08:04:46 AM
So that’s still no on the 200 agnostic?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 10:07:20 AM
If SCOTUS takes the Texas lawsuit and they win, Trump wins.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 08, 2020, 10:17:17 AM
Strawman barely reads our posts on getbig and when he does he quickly categorizes people into two groups. You are in group "trumptard" so any responses from him on your posts have that connotation attached. Hope this helps.

that link is one person view of data written in  2004

if you think it's important that fine

I don't

Trumptards are loud, whiny vocal minority in this country

There is no shortage of access to their idiotic and often false beliefs

This is just more whining from a party with a "leader" who calls himself "the most fabulous" whiner



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 10:51:34 AM
Cowards..

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tatoo on December 08, 2020, 11:01:05 AM
that link is one person view of data written in  2004

if you think it's important that fine

I don't

Trumptards are loud, whiny vocal minority in this country

There is no shortage of access to their idiotic and often false beliefs

This is just more whining from a party with a "leader" who calls himself "the most fabulous" whiner

do you have any friends that are trumptards?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 08, 2020, 11:26:26 AM
Really?  "The media didn't invent Russia Gate"?

It was the media's COVERAGE of Russiagate that was biased.

Facebook and Twitter are part of big tech, which is also biased.

Are you completely missing the point?

No, I am not. But, it appears that you are.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on December 08, 2020, 11:32:33 AM
that link is one person view of data written in  2004

if you think it's important that fine

I don't

Trumptards are loud, whiny vocal minority in this country

There is no shortage of access to their idiotic and often false beliefs

This is just more whining from a party with a "leader" who calls himself "the most fabulous" whiner


Since 2016, I have observed a large percentage of democrats that have let Trump ruin their family life and their friendships. Heartbroken democrats have been blocking/deleting friends and loved one’s on social media. Democrats are traitors that have turned against their own families.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tatoo on December 08, 2020, 11:51:34 AM

Since 2016, I have observed a large percentage of democrats that have let Trump ruin their family life and their friendships. Heartbroken democrats have been blocking/deleting friends and loved one’s on social media. Democrats are traitors that have turned against their own families.

crazy fucks
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 08, 2020, 12:34:07 PM
Should be interesting if accepted 🤔

Texas Files Supreme Court Election Lawsuit Against Four Battleground States

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/texas-files-supreme-court-election-lawsuit-against-four-battleground-states_3609460.html

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Attorney Generals in battleground states blast Ken Paxton AG, Texas for challenging Biden's win. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, says Paxton's motion is "a publicity stunt, not a serious legal pleading." Josh Kaul, AG says, “the Wisconsin Department of Justice will defend against this attack on our democracy.”  Georgia Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs said the allegation in Paxton's suit are "false and irresponsible."

The allegations in Paxton's complaint is asking permission to file include many claims that have already been litigated unsuccessfully in state and federal courts in those states. The only thing that matters is whether SCOTUS decides to even take the case and if they do what their opinion will be.


Ken Paxton, whom the Trump campaign named a co-chair of its "Lawyers for Trump" group in July, has had legal problems of his own. Paxton was indicted five years ago on felony charges of securities fraud. Texas Governor, Republican Greg Abbott says accusations against AG, Ken Paxton "raise serious concerns." He has spent much of his public life haunted by accusations of illegal or unethical behavior. In October, top aides to Texas AG Ken Paxton accused him of bribery and abuse of office.

Paxton alleges that there are 80,000 forged signatures on absentee ballots in Georgia, but doesn't bring forward a single person who this happened to. The filing took the unusual step of listing Paxton as the attorney of record and was not signed by any of the agency's appellate lawyers.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 08, 2020, 12:40:24 PM
No, I am not. But, it appears that you are.

Explain it to me then.

For context - I said the media was biased, and used their 24/7 coverage of russiagate as an example, as well as others.  You countered with "the media didn't create russiagate", which is irrelevant, since the point was their biased coverage, not the creation.

Please clarify.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 08, 2020, 12:58:17 PM
If SCOTUS takes the Texas lawsuit and they win, Trump wins.
They just took it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 01:46:41 PM

Attorney Generals in battleground states blast Ken Paxton AG, Texas for challenging Biden's win. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, says Paxton's motion is "a publicity stunt, not a serious legal pleading." Josh Kaul, AG says, “the Wisconsin Department of Justice will defend against this attack on our democracy.”  Georgia Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs said the allegation in Paxton's suit are "false and irresponsible."

The allegations in Paxton's complaint is asking permission to file include many claims that have already been litigated unsuccessfully in state and federal courts in those states. The only thing that matters is whether SCOTUS decides to even take the case and if they do what their opinion will be.


Ken Paxton, whom the Trump campaign named a co-chair of its "Lawyers for Trump" group in July, has had legal problems of his own. Paxton was indicted five years ago on felony charges of securities fraud. Texas Governor, Republican Greg Abbott says accusations against AG, Ken Paxton "raise serious concerns." He has spent much of his public life haunted by accusations of illegal or unethical behavior. In October, top aides to Texas AG Ken Paxton accused him of bribery and abuse of office.

Paxton alleges that there are 80,000 forged signatures on absentee ballots in Georgia, but doesn't bring forward a single person who this happened to. The filing took the unusual step of listing Paxton as the attorney of record and was not signed by any of the agency's appellate lawyers.

As Humble Narcissist pointed out...they took it
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 08, 2020, 02:06:29 PM
SCOTUS, without any noted dissent, rejects Republican effort to block PA election results.

Trump and his allies (e.g. Kraken conspiracy kooks) are 1-50 in post election litigation.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eovxs9CVgAAzIuJ?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 02:14:31 PM
SCOTUS, without any dissent, rejects Republican effort to block PA election results.

Trump and his allies (e.g. Kraken conspiracy kooks) are 1-50 in post election litigation.

Show your source. You’re still buying the MSM’s bullshit of “50” losses the same way you bought into that Biden is President-Elect. If anything I’m 50/50 😂😂

Inauguration Committee Fails to Pass Resolution Acknowledging Biden as President-Elect

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/inauguration-committee-votes-down-resolution-acknowledging-biden-as-president-elect_3610031.html

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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on December 08, 2020, 03:35:57 PM
Show your source. You’re still buying the MSM’s bullshit of “50” losses the same way you bought into that Biden is President-Elect. If anything I’m 50/50 😂😂

Inauguration Committee Fails to Pass Resolution Acknowledging Biden as President-Elect

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/inauguration-committee-votes-down-resolution-acknowledging-biden-as-president-elect_3610031.html

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bro.. SCOTUS told them to GFTO

won't hear the case

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/120820zr_bq7d.pdf



PEDO for POTUS 2020!!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 03:46:20 PM

bro.. SCOTUS told them to GFTO

won't hear the case

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/120820zr_bq7d.pdf



PEDO for POTUS 2020!!

I saw this. But I they also said they just might be waiting until a later date to see what the other states might do to where wouldn’t be an emergency injunction. Hope this is true. My thoughts are if the other legislators push back maybe the SCOTUS will have no choice.

On the hand...

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 03:48:28 PM
It’s insane how fast things change either way seemingly like ever hour
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 08, 2020, 03:48:46 PM
The Fed Court in Michigan just denied a Republican motion to maintain and preserve election data and machines for inspection.

So Trump and his allies are now 1-51.

Joltin' Joe DiMaggio is getting nervous.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EowD4WmXYAUswuZ?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 04:35:06 PM
The Fed Court in Michigan just denied a Republican motion to maintain and preserve election data and machines for inspection.

So Trump and his allies are now 1-51.

Joltin' Joe DiMaggio is getting nervous.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EowD4WmXYAUswuZ?format=jpg&name=large)

I don’t get nervous. I stay loaded 10 in 1
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on December 08, 2020, 04:37:20 PM
The Fed Court in Michigan just denied a Republican motion to maintain and preserve election data and machines for inspection.

So Trump and his allies are now 1-51.

Joltin' Joe DiMaggio is getting nervous.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EowD4WmXYAUswuZ?format=jpg&name=large)

You are the nervous one
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 08, 2020, 04:59:02 PM
I don’t get nervous. I stay loaded 10 in 1

There's only one Joltin' Joe and that's who might start worrying about his magical 56 being surpassed by Trump and his allies.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 08, 2020, 06:05:12 PM
It’s insane how fast things change either way seemingly like ever hour

Nothing has changed.  Trump still lost and you are still whining.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 08, 2020, 06:25:08 PM
Cowards..


Worth it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 08, 2020, 06:33:20 PM
They just took it.
They are going to respond to it by Thursday.

Not the same as taking it up.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 06:52:50 PM
Nothing has changed.  Trump still lost and you are still whining.

lol...”Nothing has changed”
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 06:54:19 PM
Might want to read this. If it’s too much to handle, watch the interview


From Newsmax - Jordan Sekulow to Newsmax TV: Texas' SCOTUS Case 'Be-All, End-All'

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1000652/220
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 08, 2020, 06:55:25 PM
Louisiana joins Texas in case.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 06:57:02 PM
Louisiana joins Texas in case.

BOOM...I have a feeling more will follow
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 08, 2020, 06:57:57 PM
lol...”Nothing has changed”

Certainly you delusional hopes and fevered dreams haven't changed either.  They still aren't coming true.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 07:37:43 PM
Great easy to understand legal explanation about Pennsylvania




https://fb.watch/2f-ZYaiRSE/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 08, 2020, 08:05:18 PM
All these fevered hopes getting dashed is only going to make the tears so much sweeter when they come.  Again.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 08, 2020, 08:10:08 PM
Coach, the SCOTUS just threw out a case brought by Pennsylvanians against their own state.

So they are gonna agree with a case that a state brings upon another state entirely? Nope.

Btw, Texas is one of the only places that still uses voting machines that don’t produce a paper ballot at all. Way more insecure than the machines used in Georgia. Maybe that late Trump surge in Texas was fraud?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 08:14:12 PM
Coach, the SCOTUS just threw out a case brought by Pennsylvanians against their own state.

So they are gonna agree with a case that a state brings upon another state entirely? Nope.

Btw, Texas is one of the only places that still uses voting machines that don’t produce a paper ballot at all. Way more insecure than the machines used in Georgia. Maybe that late Trump surge in Texas was fraud?

Might want to listen to both legal descriptions I posted. It’s still on the docket
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 08, 2020, 09:01:36 PM
Might want to listen to both legal descriptions I posted. It’s still on the docket
You know that if this crazy lawsuit succeeds then the entire American experiment is over right?

All those soldiers in all those wars will have died for nothing.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2020, 09:27:11 PM
You know that if this crazy lawsuit succeeds then the entire American experiment is over right?

All those soldiers in all those wars will have died for nothing.

Experiment? Tell you what, if this is turned over I’ll challenge you to point out where this was nothing more than following the Constitution as our forefathers put forth because they had the foresight to see what was coming even 232 years ago. Don’t even think of bringing up what our soldiers fought for....because this was it. Freedom. Something the left has no desire of.

 Not in anyway, shape or form can a liberal who voted for limited freedom, tyranny and socialism be even considered a Patriot.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 08, 2020, 09:45:08 PM
You know that if this crazy lawsuit succeeds then the entire American experiment is over right?

All those soldiers in all those wars will have died for nothing.

Correct sir

Swamp will be drained

Just what the people wanted
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 08, 2020, 10:30:26 PM
So that’s still no on the 200 agnostic?

No cost in dreaming.. and spreading disinformation. But when it comes to putting money down... I found one sucker that at least put up money on the ridiculous notion Trump would steal the election
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 08, 2020, 10:31:00 PM
If SCOTUS takes the Texas lawsuit and they win, Trump wins.

Dude..... how much you want to put on that?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 08, 2020, 10:33:17 PM
It’s insane how fast things change either way seemingly like ever hour

Things really aren't changing. Trump lost the election. Trumps team filed 50 lawsuits and lost 49 (the one they won was an injunction that is irrelevant now)
The Safe Harbor day passed... Biden will be sworn in Jan 20th. What really has changed except money from Trump supporters hands to the Trump fund?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 09, 2020, 04:01:51 AM
You know that if this crazy lawsuit succeeds then the entire American experiment is over right?

All those soldiers in all those wars will have died for nothing.

Isn't it the other way around.  If this lawsuit fails, America is nothing more than just another failed country.  Any country can have fraudulent elections like this one. 

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 09, 2020, 04:20:28 AM
Isn't it the other way around.  If this lawsuit fails, America is nothing more than just another failed country.  Any country can have fraudulent elections like this one.
Exactly.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Body-Buildah on December 09, 2020, 05:15:41 AM
Libs want to be Venezuela, fraud elections, dictators, communism. Have no control in the towns and cities, lootin, hootin, burning, hollerin.
Brain dead kult o' kuntz. ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tatoo on December 09, 2020, 05:27:35 AM
Dude..... how much you want to put on that?

another degenerate gambling cop...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 07:53:58 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/read-trumps-massive-georgia-lawsuit-highlights-include-66247-underage-voters-2560-felons/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 08:10:45 AM
SCOTUS, without any noted dissent, rejects Republican effort to block PA election results.

Trump and his allies (e.g. Kraken conspiracy kooks) are 1-50 in post election litigation.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eovxs9CVgAAzIuJ?format=jpg&name=medium)

PA still on the docket

https://mb.ntd.com/supreme-court-sets-thursday-deadline-for-briefs-in-election-lawsuit-filed-by-texas_537814.html
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 02:12:36 PM
UPDATE...

17 states are now a part of the Texas SCOTUS lawsuit challenging Joe Biden's fraudulent victory:

Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Indiana
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2020, 02:17:26 PM
UPDATE...

17 states are now a part of the Texas SCOTUS lawsuit challenging Joe Biden's fraudulent victory:

Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Indiana
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia

BFD

The lawsuit is a farce (I know you will never be able to understand this)

It's fun watching you get your hopes up

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/ken-paxton-texas-lawsuit-scotus-election-pardon.html
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 09, 2020, 04:42:20 PM
UPDATE...

17 states are now a part of the Texas SCOTUS lawsuit challenging Joe Biden's fraudulent victory:

Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Indiana
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia

Preemptive - HAHAHAHAHA you idiot for thinking this would amount to anything.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 04:46:16 PM
Will you and agnostic and prime gay lord implode ?

Dec 15
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 05:11:44 PM
BFD

The lawsuit is a farce (I know you will never be able to understand this)

It's fun watching you get your hopes up

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/ken-paxton-texas-lawsuit-scotus-election-pardon.html

“Slate” lolololololol
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 05:12:19 PM
UPDATE...

17 states are now a part of the Texas SCOTUS lawsuit challenging Joe Biden's fraudulent victory:

Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Indiana
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia

Add Arizona to the list
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2020, 05:15:58 PM
Add Arizona to the list

It's going to be fun watching you and THE TRAITOR lose again when this is laughed out of court

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 05:18:43 PM
It's going to be fun watching you and THE TRAITOR lose again when this is laughed out of court

Speaking of traitors. Hunter Biden has been under investigation and he just found out today. I’m sure the “Big Guy” knew all about this. Also, wanna discuss the male version of AOC, Eric Swallwell?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
Speaking of traitors. Hunter Biden has been under investigation and he just found out today. I’m sure the “Big Guy” knew all about this. Also, wanna discuss the male version of AOC, Eric Swallowell?

LMFAO.  See how clever I can be.   ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 09, 2020, 05:19:45 PM
So a pro trump Georgia election official in a trump county purposely put some votes through the scanners twice to try to delay the Georgia vote certification.

Investigation has been launched into her actions.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 05:21:51 PM
So a pro trump Georgia election official in a trump county purposely put some votes through the scanners twice to try to delay the Georgia vote certification.

Investigation has been launched into her actions.

That seems to be the implication.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 05:23:38 PM
No cost in dreaming.. and spreading disinformation. But when it comes to putting money down... I found one sucker that at least put up money on the ridiculous notion Trump would steal the election

So is there a bet ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2020, 05:31:53 PM
Might want to read this. If it’s too much to handle, watch the interview


From Newsmax - Jordan Sekulow to Newsmax TV: Texas' SCOTUS Case 'Be-All, End-All'

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1000652/220

Newsmax? I'll pass.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 05:33:25 PM
Newsmax? I'll pass.

I watch a little Newsmax every day.  It's fucking mind blowing.  After 10 minutes, you'd think Fox was MSNBC.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2020, 05:40:41 PM
Speaking of traitors. Hunter Biden has been under investigation and he just found out today. I’m sure the “Big Guy” knew all about this. Also, wanna discuss the male version of AOC, Eric Swallwell?

fine with me

let's find out if he broke the law or not

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2020, 05:41:46 PM
Will you and agnostic and prime gay lord implode ?

Dec 15

Better question, will you?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2020, 05:45:01 PM
I watch a little Newsmax every day.  It's fucking mind blowing.  After 10 minutes, you'd think Fox was MSNBC.

That is what I've read about Newsmax.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2020, 05:55:25 PM
Jordan Sekulow is an American lawyer, radio talk show host, former Washington Post blogger, political consultant, author and Trump lawyer.

Charities steered $65M to Trump lawyer Sekulow and family.....no surprise!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 06:12:00 PM
Better question, will you?

No I’ll accept whomever wins

I’m not mentally weak
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 06:41:41 PM
fine with me

let's find out if he broke the law or not

Because the videos of him molesting kids wasn’t enough
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 06:42:38 PM
Jordan Sekulow is an American lawyer, radio talk show host, former Washington Post blogger, political consultant, author and Trump lawyer.

Charities steered $65M to Trump lawyer Sekulow and family.....no surprise!

It’s your problem if you want to continue to get lied too.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 06:44:34 PM
Ouch...

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2020, 06:47:34 PM
No I’ll accept whomever wins

I’m not mentally weak

Good. Acceptance is one thing, but will you support the winner regardless of whether it is the person you wanted and regardless of how big a fuck up they end up being?

Unlike what folks here like to say, I accepted the results of the 2016 election. I even posted something about supporting Trump. Unfortunately, I did not and do not abide many of the things he's done. He also doesn't have a personality I can respect and like.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 06:51:35 PM
Good. Acceptance is one thing, but will you support the winner regardless of whether it is the person you wanted and regardless of how big a fuck up they end up being?

Unlike what folks here like to say, I accepted the results of the 2016 election. I even posted something about supporting Trump. Unfortunately, I did not and do not abide many of the things he's done. He also doesn't have a personality I can respect and like.

Acceptance and supporting are two completely different things. I would NEVER support a Socialist traitor with a communist administration.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 06:53:39 PM
Good. Acceptance is one thing, but will you support the winner regardless of whether it is the person you wanted and regardless of how big a fuck up they end up being?

Unlike what folks here like to say, I accepted the results of the 2016 election. I even posted something about supporting Trump. Unfortunately, I did not and do not abide many of the things he's done. He also doesn't have a personality I can respect and like.

Reread what I wrote it doesn’t need further clarification you  dementia  ridden windbag geezer
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 09, 2020, 06:55:37 PM
Good. Acceptance is one thing, but will you support the winner regardless of whether it is the person you wanted and regardless of how big a fuck up they end up being?


Why would someone need to support the winner if it's not who they want to be president?
What's wrong with ignoring?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 07:02:47 PM
Acceptance and supporting are two completely different things. I would NEVER support a Socialist traitor with a communist administration.

You must be in favor of defunding the police, military, etc, right?  Those are socialist programs/institutions.  For the record, I'm not in favor of defunding those organizations.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 07:04:31 PM
You must be in favor of defunding the police, military, etc, right?  Those are socialist programs/institutions.  For the record, I'm not in favor of defunding those organizations.

No, they’re not “socialist” programs. Where do you guys come up with this shit? 😂😂😂🤣
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 07:05:35 PM
No, they’re not “socialist” programs. Where do you guys come up with this shit? 😂😂😂🤣

Oh, yes they are. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2020, 07:09:46 PM
Why would someone need to support the winner if it's not who they want to be president?
What's wrong with ignoring?

They would do it for the good of something bigger, like (in this case) the country. There is nothing wrong with ignoring what or who you don't agree with. It has some merit. It is better then constant negativity, which will also bring you and many around you down.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 07:13:48 PM
Oh, yes they are.

So you think municipalities is socialism? Lol
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
They would do it for the good of something bigger, like (in this case) the country. There is nothing wrong with ignoring what or who you don't agree with. It has some merit. It is better then constant negativity, which will also bring you and many around you down.

Yeah like Insulting our president like you do

Cause you don’t like his “ personality “

Just what other countries want

Us against our own leaders

Why don’t you have a drop of wisdom at your age ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 09, 2020, 07:29:16 PM
No, they’re not “socialist” programs. Where do you guys come up with this shit? 😂😂😂🤣
The US military health care system is the biggest socialized health care system in the world.

And America’s service members deserve it, especially the small amount of them who actually face harm during their enlistments.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 07:30:31 PM
.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 07:32:46 PM
Damn son
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 09, 2020, 07:37:18 PM
Coach,

This is from a judge rejecting a Trump lawsuit.

What is your point?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 07:40:00 PM
But cnn confirmed

Jwb

Jay dubya beee
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 09, 2020, 07:41:57 PM
Yeah like Insulting our president like you do

Cause you don’t like his “ personality “

Just what other countries want

Us against our own leaders

Why don’t you have a drop of wisdom at your age?

Give me examples of my personal insults against Trump and I'll apologize for it. I make it a point to try to speak to the behavior and not the person. Let's be clear, disagreeing with someone or something is not an insult.

It is safe to say you don't like me even though you only think you know me. I'm not complaining. Who you like or don't like and why is your choice. Trump represents almost everything I don't like in people. I did not like or respect him for a very long time before now. This is my prerogative.

Age does not guarantee wisdom. What is wise and what is not is a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 07:48:13 PM
😂😂🤣
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: che on December 09, 2020, 07:48:42 PM
No, they’re not “socialist” programs. Where do you guys come up with this shit? 😂😂😂🤣

Yes they are retard , Police , Firefighters , Military , Medicare , Social Security , Cares Act .................. ........................ .......  you are so fucking ignorant ,it's not even funny .
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:10:14 PM
Yes they are retard , Police , Firefighters , Military , Medicare , Social Security , Cares Act .................. ........................ .......  you are so fucking ignorant ,it's not even funny .

I don't think Coach really understands socialist programs and just goes by OAN and Fox news.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 08:10:23 PM
Yes they are retard , Police , Firefighters , Military , Medicare , Social Security , Cares Act .................. ........................ .......  you are so fucking ignorant ,it's not even funny .

lol....no, they’re not. 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:11:23 PM
So is there a bet ?

If you can get one of these Trumpsters to commit to a bet, I'll give you 25% of whatever they pay just for pointing out they are all talk
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Tbomzisback! on December 09, 2020, 08:15:31 PM
The claim is that mail-in ballots were fraudulently manipulated by democrats without republican observers to tilt the election in Biden's favor.

Yet, even if you take mail-in ballots out of the picture entirely, and look at only the day-of in-person ballots from republican controlled counties and republican-observed counting stations, nevertheless, Biden still significantly outperformed Hillary in all those counties.

Which indicates Biden would significantly outperform Hillary everywhere, state-wide, including the swing states.

And since Hillary only lost the swing states by the skin of her teeth, statistically that indicates Biden would win.

But lets be real. Trump didnt come out and say there was election fraud because he was aware of some evidence of it. No, he came out with this the night of the election the moment the math indicated that Biden would pull ahead once the votes were counted. And he told us all summer long that this was going to be his narrative if he lost. It has nothing to do with anything actually observed.

That being said - I would love to vote for a Republican. An actual Republican: like George Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. You know, the people who represented the Republican party at the highest level for the past 20 years. Men of integrity. But Trump isnt a Republican. He is, at best, a nationalist. In reality, though, he is merely a Trumpian. He doesnt have an ideology other than promotion and love of self.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
Coach,

This is from a judge rejecting a Trump lawsuit.

What is your point?

I think his point is, and coach help me out on this, he's a coach and doesn't realize he is posting something that refutes his position. He is famous for posting links to articles that when you read them, which he doesn't, actually contradicts his point.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 08:19:27 PM
The claim is that mail-in ballots were fraudulently manipulated by democrats without republican observers to tilt the election Biden's favor.

Yet, even if you take mail-in ballots out of the picture entirely, and look at only the day-of mail-in ballots from republican controlled counties and republican-observed counting stations, nevertheless, Biden still significantly outperformed Hillary in all those counties.

Which indicates Biden would significantly outperform Hillary everywhere, state-wide, including the swing states.

And since Hillary only lost the swing states by the skin of her teeth, statistically that indicates Biden would win.

But lets be real. Trump didnt come out and say there was election fraud because he was aware of some evidence of it. No, he came out with this the night of the election the moment the math indicated that Biden would pull ahead once the votes were counted. And he told us all summer long that this was going to be his narrative if he lost. It has nothing to do with anything actually observed.

That being said - I would love to vote for a Republican. An actual Republican: like George Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. You know, the people who represented the Republican party at the highest level for the past 20 years. Men of integrity. But Trump isnt a Republican. He is, at best, a nationalist. In reality, though, he is merely a Trumpian. He doesnt have an ideology other than promotion and love of self.

Welcome back T-cells.  I'm not sure any of those republicans you mentioned would have been ok with saving your life given the life style choices you made.  They most certainly would not be on board with you bilking the system for anabolics and gh.  That being said, hope you are healthy and well.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:19:50 PM
The claim is that mail-in ballots were fraudulently manipulated by democrats without republican observers to tilt the election in Biden's favor.

Yet, even if you take mail-in ballots out of the picture entirely, and look at only the day-of in-person ballots from republican controlled counties and republican-observed counting stations, nevertheless, Biden still significantly outperformed Hillary in all those counties.

Which indicates Biden would significantly outperform Hillary everywhere, state-wide, including the swing states.

And since Hillary only lost the swing states by the skin of her teeth, statistically that indicates Biden would win.

But lets be real. Trump didnt come out and say there was election fraud because he was aware of some evidence of it. No, he came out with this the night of the election the moment the math indicated that Biden would pull ahead once the votes were counted. And he told us all summer long that this was going to be his narrative if he lost. It has nothing to do with anything actually observed.

That being said - I would love to vote for a Republican. An actual Republican: like George Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. You know, the people who represented the Republican party at the highest level for the past 20 years. Men of integrity. But Trump isnt a Republican. He is, at best, a nationalist. In reality, though, he is merely a Trumpian. He doesnt have an ideology other than promotion and love of self.

Good post. Trump said from day 1 the criteria for being a rigged election is if he lost. We should all recognize 4th grade logic by now. but you still have people swallowing his lies like they fell off the turnip truck last night
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 09, 2020, 08:54:08 PM
The claim is that mail-in ballots were fraudulently manipulated by democrats without republican observers to tilt the election in Biden's favor.

Yet, even if you take mail-in ballots out of the picture entirely, and look at only the day-of in-person ballots from republican controlled counties and republican-observed counting stations, nevertheless, Biden still significantly outperformed Hillary in all those counties.

Which indicates Biden would significantly outperform Hillary everywhere, state-wide, including the swing states.

And since Hillary only lost the swing states by the skin of her teeth, statistically that indicates Biden would win.

But lets be real. Trump didnt come out and say there was election fraud because he was aware of some evidence of it. No, he came out with this the night of the election the moment the math indicated that Biden would pull ahead once the votes were counted. And he told us all summer long that this was going to be his narrative if he lost. It has nothing to do with anything actually observed.

That being said - I would love to vote for a Republican. An actual Republican: like George Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. You know, the people who represented the Republican party at the highest level for the past 20 years. Men of integrity. But Trump isnt a Republican. He is, at best, a nationalist. In reality, though, he is merely a Trumpian. He doesnt have an ideology other than promotion and love of self.
all true.

Biden actually did worse with blacks in many urban areas than Clinton.

He won it by getting that extra 3 percent of white people in the middle class suburbs to come out for him that didn’t like Clinton.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:56:00 PM
all true.

Biden actually did worse with blacks in many urban areas than Clinton.

He won it by getting that extra 3 percent of white people in the middle class suburbs to come out for him that didn’t like Clinton.

It helped that he isn't a psychopath and pathological liar who always spoke like he was at a campaign rally regardless the setting.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 09, 2020, 08:58:36 PM
It helped that he isn't a psychopath and pathological liar who always spoke like he was at a campaign rally regardless the setting.
always helps
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 09, 2020, 09:00:18 PM
No, they’re not “socialist” programs. Where do you guys come up with this shit? 😂😂😂🤣

What the fuck?  You don't even know what you are talking about.  HAHAHAHA nothing worse than using something as an excuse that you can't even comprehend or understand.  Not the first time you've shown us how stupid you are.  Won't be the last.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 09:01:51 PM
What the fuck?  You don't even know what you are talking about.  HAHAHAHA nothing worse than using something as an excuse that you can't even comprehend or understand.  Not the first time you've shown us how stupid you are.  Won't be the last.

Cut him slack. He's a Coach
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 09, 2020, 09:10:14 PM
The claim is that mail-in ballots were fraudulently manipulated by democrats without republican observers to tilt the election in Biden's favor.

Yet, even if you take mail-in ballots out of the picture entirely, and look at only the day-of in-person ballots from republican controlled counties and republican-observed counting stations, nevertheless, Biden still significantly outperformed Hillary in all those counties.

Which indicates Biden would significantly outperform Hillary everywhere, state-wide, including the swing states.

And since Hillary only lost the swing states by the skin of her teeth, statistically that indicates Biden would win.

But lets be real. Trump didnt come out and say there was election fraud because he was aware of some evidence of it. No, he came out with this the night of the election the moment the math indicated that Biden would pull ahead once the votes were counted. And he told us all summer long that this was going to be his narrative if he lost. It has nothing to do with anything actually observed.

That being said - I would love to vote for a Republican. An actual Republican: like George Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. You know, the people who represented the Republican party at the highest level for the past 20 years. Men of integrity. But Trump isnt a Republican. He is, at best, a nationalist. In reality, though, he is merely a Trumpian. He doesnt have an ideology other than promotion and love of self.

When you get a real fucking job, pay off your student loans, pay for your own healthcare, and become a productive member of society then you can preach your bullshit opinions.

Until then, fuck off with your bullshit.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 09, 2020, 09:16:09 PM
My nikka
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 10:54:52 PM
What the fuck?  You don't even know what you are talking about.  HAHAHAHA nothing worse than using something as an excuse that you can't even comprehend or understand.  Not the first time you've shown us how stupid you are.  Won't be the last.

Hahaha...no one has ever accused a lib (any lib) of being economic geniuses.....obviously. Lol
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 10:55:23 PM
https://trendingpolitics.com/michigan-whistleblower-makes-bombshell-accusation-claims-5k-ballots-showed-up-at-3-3-in-van-with-janice-winfrey-s-name-on-it/?utm_source=stonewall&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 11:04:40 PM
The claim is that mail-in ballots were fraudulently manipulated by democrats without republican observers to tilt the election in Biden's favor.

Yet, even if you take mail-in ballots out of the picture entirely, and look at only the day-of in-person ballots from republican controlled counties and republican-observed counting stations, nevertheless, Biden still significantly outperformed Hillary in all those counties.

Which indicates Biden would significantly outperform Hillary everywhere, state-wide, including the swing states.

And since Hillary only lost the swing states by the skin of her teeth, statistically that indicates Biden would win.

But lets be real. Trump didnt come out and say there was election fraud because he was aware of some evidence of it. No, he came out with this the night of the election the moment the math indicated that Biden would pull ahead once the votes were counted. And he told us all summer long that this was going to be his narrative if he lost. It has nothing to do with anything actually observed.

That being said - I would love to vote for a Republican. An actual Republican: like George Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. You know, the people who represented the Republican party at the highest level for the past 20 years. Men of integrity. But Trump isnt a Republican. He is, at best, a nationalist. In reality, though, he is merely a Trumpian. He doesnt have an ideology other than promotion and love of self.

lmao....that’s not the only claim. There are about a million others that are proven and out in the open. Since your just now coming back, let me fill you in a little. As of today there are over 200k signed under penalty of perjury of voter fraud. Do you know what an affidavit is because none of your whacked out lib friends on here seem to know and don’t want to know. Not only myself but others on here have posted FULL 2 and 3 hour legislative hearing with....you guessed it, of testimonies from witnesses that have, in fact, have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury.

Did they watch any of it? Fuck no. Which is why I sit back and collectively laugh my ass off at just about every post they make...lol 

Btw, McCain was a piece of shit and a literal traitor to his country.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2020, 11:10:12 PM
Add Arizona to the list

Up to 22 states now
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 09, 2020, 11:46:28 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 11:55:58 PM


Snowflake.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 10, 2020, 12:03:58 AM
lmao....that’s not the only claim. There are about a million others that are proven and out in the open. Since your just now coming back, let me fill you in a little. As of today there are over 200k signed under penalty of perjury of voter fraud. Do you know what an affidavit is because none of your whacked out lib friends on here seem to know and don’t want to know. Not only myself but others on here have posted FULL 2 and 3 hour legislative hearing with....you guessed it, of testimonies from witnesses that have, in fact, have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury.

Did they watch any of it? Fuck no. Which is why I sit back and collectively laugh my ass off at just about every post they make...lol 

Btw, McCain was a piece of shit and a literal traitor to his country.
Pretty sure the Supreme Court might wanna see at least one person sitting in a county jail charged with even one of these fraud schemes before they toss the entire election.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 10, 2020, 12:07:49 AM
Jay dubya beee

In da houzzzzz
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 10, 2020, 01:54:37 AM
Snowflake.

Facts and peoples opinions that are censored  is far from crying about 59 genders like snowflakes do...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LMV on December 10, 2020, 02:50:46 AM
Snowflake.

lol she's got more testosteron in her little pinky than you and your 2 dads combined
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Body-Buildah on December 10, 2020, 03:22:34 AM
Sounds to me like GOOG/ YT are the snowflakes, not the girl calmly reporting on their nonsense.

snowflake

A hypersensitive, irrational person who can't stand to have their world views challenged, or be offended in any perceived or even slightest of ways; they will have any number of emotional reactions: impuning character and/or motives, blocking on social media, shouting, interrupting, threatening, assaulting, etc. They often live in an echo chamber of their own beliefs and surround themselves exclusively with people and opinions that agree with their own. This term is most often use to describe people left-leaning people, but can be applied both left and right wing people.

Blocking the views globally of those who dont agree w/ them.   ::)   (FB, TWIT, GOOG, YT, etc).
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 10, 2020, 03:32:42 AM
Yes they are retard , Police , Firefighters , Military , Medicare , Social Security , Cares Act .................. ........................ .......  you are so fucking ignorant ,it's not even funny .

You are correct but i think coach was referring to blm defund police back to your statement the above are technically socialist programs. Socialism in moderation is vital for a healthy country ie one that people actualky enjoy living in.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2020, 07:13:57 AM
Hahaha...no one has ever accused a lib (any lib) of being economic geniuses.....obviously. Lol

No one has every accused you of being smart. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 10, 2020, 07:52:28 AM
Imagine if he was smart as you ?

He would be a billionaire instead of just a millionaire

Crazy huh

How much you earn this year lurker ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Kenpo Machine on December 10, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Imagine if he was smart as you ?

He would be a billionaire instead of just a millionaire

Crazy huh

How much you earn this year lurker ?
How much do you earn posting on a forum 24/7 like an obsessive compulsive retard?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 10, 2020, 08:49:44 AM
Nah, no proof of media bias here at all....

https://nypost.com/2020/12/10/ric-grenell-calls-out-cnns-jake-tapper-for-belatedly-covering-hunter-biden-story/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2020, 09:34:49 AM
Imagine if he was smart as you ?

He would be a billionaire instead of just a millionaire

Crazy huh

How much you earn this year lurker ?

Now that I have started selling the tears of impotent conservatives, business is booming.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2020, 10:15:49 AM
From Newsmax - Records Still Not Available for 500,000 Georgia Absentee Ballots

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1000894/1
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2020, 10:18:13 AM
Pretty sure the Supreme Court might wanna see at least one person sitting in a county jail charged with even one of these fraud schemes before they toss the entire election.

Traitor Robert’s is trying to fuck it up. He hasn’t called since he was coerced into the Obamacare vote
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2020, 11:33:05 AM
No, they’re not “socialist” programs. Where do you guys come up with this shit? 😂😂😂🤣

Technically, you are right. Police, fire and military are government programs, but then so is Welfare which is a socialist program. The difference between the two is blurred.

Socialism is a political, social and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterized by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management of enterprises. ... Social ownership can be public, collective, cooperative, or of equity.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Body-Buildah on December 10, 2020, 11:47:39 AM
From Newsmax - Records Still Not Available for 500,000 Georgia Absentee Ballots

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1000894/1

Professor in Texas lawsuit: Odds of Biden winning all four contested states ‘less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power’   :o

https://noqreport.com/2020/12/09/professor-in-texas-lawsuit-odds-of-biden-winning-all-four-contested-states-less-than-one-in-a-quadrillion-to-the-fourth-power/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 10, 2020, 12:30:02 PM
Over and under on the Hairplugs Biden impeachment date?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2020, 12:39:19 PM
Anyone else remember way back when when the left thought the entire Hunter Biden fake news?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 10, 2020, 12:59:04 PM
Anyone else remember way back when when the left thought the entire Hunter Biden fake news?

Yes, the mocked the idea that he could be dumb enough to leave a laptop at a repair place.

Oops.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 10, 2020, 01:35:42 PM
From Newsmax - Records Still Not Available for 500,000 Georgia Absentee Ballots

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1000894/1
talk about underwhelming
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 10, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Professor in Texas lawsuit: Odds of Biden winning all four contested states ‘less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power’   :o

https://noqreport.com/2020/12/09/professor-in-texas-lawsuit-odds-of-biden-winning-all-four-contested-states-less-than-one-in-a-quadrillion-to-the-fourth-power/
Based on 2016 election when there was basically no absentee ballots of any significant order of magnitude that were counted after the same day vote in all these states.

Talk about misleading.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2020, 02:02:55 PM
talk about underwhelming

Yes, it’s always underwhelming when records are missing for 500,000 ballots.

Would you say you’ve live an honest life, make an honest living, break no major or any laws? This is a serious, honest question
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2020, 02:35:09 PM
https://mb.ntd.com/michigan-representative-threatens-trump-voters_538177.html
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 10, 2020, 02:37:48 PM
Yes, it’s always underwhelming when records are missing for 500,000 ballots.

Would you say you’ve live an honest life, make an honest living, break no major or any laws? This is a serious, honest question
Nothing is missing they just couldn’t be bothered responding to a quack reporter.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Rascal full on December 10, 2020, 02:39:29 PM
Yes, the mocked the idea that he could be dumb enough to leave a laptop at a repair place.

Oops.

Yes it is staggering how stupid that was, almost such an own goal it's like he was playing for the other side secretly to do as much damage as possible. How do you forget any laptop let alone one with such 'sensitive' information on. His dad must have wanted to kill the little fucker!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2020, 02:51:58 PM
Nothing is missing they just couldn’t be bothered responding to a quack reporter.

Bullshit plus you didn’t answer my question.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 10, 2020, 03:06:35 PM
Bullshit plus you didn’t answer my question.
Is answering your every question a requirement or am I still actually living in a free society at least for now?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 10, 2020, 03:23:29 PM
Yes it is staggering how stupid that was, almost such an own goal it's like he was playing for the other side secretly to do as much damage as possible. How do you forget any laptop let alone one with such 'sensitive' information on. His dad must have wanted to kill the little fucker!

He was a crack addict, so anything is possible.

Glen Greenwald, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, is exposing the media's corruption and bias after he quit a company he helped find, when their editor wanted to suppress an article he wrote about how the media is behaving now.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/10/greenwald-posts-hunter-biden-reports-suppressed-by-media/

But, there will still be certain people here claiming there is no proof of media bias.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Rascal full on December 10, 2020, 03:54:21 PM
He was a crack addict, so anything is possible.

Glen Greenwald, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, is exposing the media's corruption and bias after he quit a company he helped find, when their editor wanted to suppress an article he wrote about how the media is behaving now.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/10/greenwald-posts-hunter-biden-reports-suppressed-by-media/

But, there will still be certain people here claiming there is no proof of media bias.

I reckon he is on prescription drugs like valium or xanax, stuff that affects your memory as well as the crack. He must have taken the laptop in to be fixed while he was high as a kite, almost a black-out state in order to forget about it completely. Lots more to come out about Hunter, he is going to be a very volatile figure throughout his fathers presidency. Like you said a lot of it has been suppressed by the MSM, I hope more people have the courage to come out and expose it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 10, 2020, 03:54:39 PM
Anyone else remember way back when when the left thought the entire Hunter Biden fake news?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senator-johnson-claims-trump-would-have-won-if-media-covered-hunter-biden-more/ar-BB1bNGES

"It's obvious to everybody except the mainstream media," Johnson said. "And of course, we found out now that the mainstream media had far greater interference and influence in our election than any Russian interference ever could have hoped for.... the McLaughlin poll said that 36 percent of Biden voters had never heard of the Hunter Biden story because of the censorship and suppression."

"Of that, 13 percent said they wouldn't have voted for Biden," he added. "That means that 4.6 percent of Biden voters would not have voted for him. That means Trump would have won the election. That's the enormous influence that social media and our liberal biased media played on this election. Their interference just is orders of magnitude greater than any Russian, Chinese or Iran foreign interference in this campaign."

Link to poll:  https://mclaughlinonline.com/2020/11/05/ma-2020-national-post-election-poll/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 10, 2020, 03:57:15 PM
I reckon he is on prescription drugs like valium or xanax, stuff that affects your memory as well as the crack. He must have taken the laptop in to be fixed while he was high as a kite, almost a black-out state in order to forget about it completely. Lots more to come out about Hunter, he is going to be a very volatile figure throughout his fathers presidency. Like you said a lot of it has been suppressed by the MSM, I hope more people have the courage to come out and expose it.

Seems plausible, but wouldn't Biden have provided his contact information to the computer shop?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 10, 2020, 04:46:48 PM
I reckon he is on prescription drugs like valium or xanax, stuff that affects your memory as well as the crack. He must have taken the laptop in to be fixed while he was high as a kite, almost a black-out state in order to forget about it completely. Lots more to come out about Hunter, he is going to be a very volatile figure throughout his fathers presidency. Like you said a lot of it has been suppressed by the MSM, I hope more people have the courage to come out and expose it.

have you ever been high? most people cant get off the couch, you think this fella is eating xanny bars and getting errands done?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 11, 2020, 11:05:52 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 11, 2020, 11:51:12 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on December 11, 2020, 11:58:05 AM
Good idea..


Let's all complain on social media about all the corruption instead of actually going out and physically doing something about it..



AWESOME!! that should work well!!


Let's go keyboard warriors!!


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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 11, 2020, 12:09:13 PM
If you want to do something different nobody is stopping you...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 11, 2020, 12:30:22 PM
Professor in Texas lawsuit: Odds of Biden winning all four contested states ‘less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power’   :o

https://noqreport.com/2020/12/09/professor-in-texas-lawsuit-odds-of-biden-winning-all-four-contested-states-less-than-one-in-a-quadrillion-to-the-fourth-power/

more proof that even Trumptards with PHd's are still FUCKING MORONS

https://reason.com/volokh/2020/12/09/more-on-statistical-stupidity-at-scotus/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2020, 12:33:39 PM
Georgia, Mired in Election Disputes, Fosters Cozy Ties With China

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/georgia-mired-in-election-disputes-fosters-cozy-ties-with-china_3614801.html

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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2020, 12:38:12 PM
more proof that even Trumptards with PHd's are still FUCKING MORONS

https://reason.com/volokh/2020/12/09/more-on-statistical-stupidity-at-scotus/

I know you do not realize it but you have never ever posted anything even remotely credible
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 11, 2020, 01:11:09 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 11, 2020, 01:55:10 PM
I know you do not realize it but you have never ever posted anything even remotely credible

I can't help it if you're a fucking moron

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 11, 2020, 03:11:47 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 11, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
I don't even know why Ted Cruz bothers speaking

His words mean NOTHING

Here is what he said about Trump


Quote
"This man is a pathological liar, he doesn't know the difference between truth and lies ... in a pattern that is straight out of a psychology text book, he accuses everyone of lying,"

"Whatever lie he's telling, at that minute he believes it ... the man is utterly amoral," Cruz told reporters. "Donald is a bully ... bullies don't come from strength they come from weakness."


What kind of scumbag do you have to be to say these things about someone and then turn around and publicly kiss his ass at every opporturnity

The guy (like Trump) is utterly amoral and has ZERO personal values or standards

As Trumps said, he's HUMAN SCUM

Everytime he stands in front of reporter they should read his words back to him and ask him how he can support a person whom he believes is uttery amoral and a pathological liar

That is the only thing I want to know about Cruz
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 11, 2020, 04:14:34 PM
You have to hand it to the Biden men.

Fake President-elect for two weeks and three of them are headed to prison.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Howard on December 11, 2020, 04:15:21 PM
Georgia, Mired in Election Disputes, Fosters Cozy Ties With China

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Coach, this is way past being over. C'mon now, it's over 50 fraud lawsuits struck down now.
Team Trump only has baseless conspiracy stories and no evidence that can actually be used on court on voter fraud.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-rejects-texas-suit-challenging-biden-s-victory/ar-BB1bRm9c?ocid=msedgdhp
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 11, 2020, 04:18:38 PM
Coach, this is way past being over. C'mon now, it's over 50 fraud lawsuits struck down now.
Team Trump only has baseless conspiracy stories and no evidence that can actually be used on court on voter fraud.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-rejects-texas-suit-challenging-biden-s-victory/ar-BB1bRm9c?ocid=msedgdhp

FUCK OFF.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 04:28:34 PM
Supreme Court rejects Texas' effort to overturn election in fatal blow to Trump legal blitz to stop Biden
The court's ruling was essentially a unanimous rejection of the Texas claims.


No surprise.

The court, in a brief unsigned order, said Texas lacked standing to pursue the case, saying it “has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections.”

The move, coupled with a one-sentence order on Tuesday turning away a similar request from Pennsylvania Republicans, signaled that the court has refused to be drawn into President Trump’s losing campaign to overturn the results of the election last month.

There will continue to be scattered litigation brush fires around the nation from Mr. Trump’s allies, but as a practical matter the Supreme Court’s action puts an end to any prospect that Mr. Trump will win in court what he lost at the polls.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 11, 2020, 04:30:55 PM
So have the election results been reversed?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mphgrove on December 11, 2020, 04:32:53 PM
So have the election results been reversed?

Melania is packing even if he isn’t quite yet.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 04:35:25 PM
So have the election results been reversed?

Huh? Quite the opposite.

https://www.fox8live.com/2020/12/11/hundreds-gop-members-sign-onto-texas-led-election-lawsuit/
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 11, 2020, 04:39:18 PM
Huh? Quite the opposite.

https://www.fox8live.com/2020/12/11/hundreds-gop-members-sign-onto-texas-led-election-lawsuit/

Wow who would have thought Biden wouldn’t end up as President. Congratulations to Mr President  Donald Trump. The system still works.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 04:39:40 PM
Melania is packing even if he isn’t quite yet.

No doubt.

I found it interesting that she was investigating what taxpayer paid perks she could expect as retired First Lady. She must have been very disappointed when she was essentially told that there were none. If Trump croaks, she's entitled to a $20,000 a year pension and that's it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
Wow who would have thought Biden wouldn’t end up as President. Congratulations to Mr President  Donald Trump. The system still works.

In the words of Donald Trump.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 11, 2020, 04:47:17 PM
In the words of Donald Trump.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I would love to have seen THE TRAITORS reaction when he found out SCOTUS told him to go pound sand

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 04:50:54 PM
I would love to have seen THE TRAITORS reaction when he found out SCOTUS told him to go pound sand

Check his Twitter account. My guess he's saying something like he won the and everyone knows it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 11, 2020, 05:22:17 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo_r9N1VoAEX6KN?format=png&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tatoo on December 11, 2020, 05:32:01 PM
I would love to have seen THE TRAITORS reaction when he found out SCOTUS told him to go pound sand

id love to see your reaction if you ever run into coach in real life.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on December 11, 2020, 05:51:01 PM
Supreme Court rejects Texas' effort to overturn election in fatal blow to Trump legal blitz to stop Biden
The court's ruling was essentially a unanimous rejection of the Texas claims.


No surprise.

The court, in a brief unsigned order, said Texas lacked standing to pursue the case, saying it “has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections.”

The move, coupled with a one-sentence order on Tuesday turning away a similar request from Pennsylvania Republicans, signaled that the court has refused to be drawn into President Trump’s losing campaign to overturn the results of the election last month.

There will continue to be scattered litigation brush fires around the nation from Mr. Trump’s allies, but as a practical matter the Supreme Court’s action puts an end to any prospect that Mr. Trump will win in court what he lost at the polls.


PEDO for POTUS 2020!!

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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on December 11, 2020, 05:52:35 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020!!


Child sniffing for everyone!!!! whooo hooooo




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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 11, 2020, 06:54:58 PM
The only time Trump does a favor for people in advance in his entire life by putting them on the Supreme Court, and it doesn’t work out for him.

Now he knows how every person who has ever done business with him feels.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 07:21:39 PM
PEDO for POTUS 2020!!

(https://media.makeameme.org/created/nah-nah-nah-itwjwg.jpg)

Your post is both stupid and pathetic. Is this what BDS looks like?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 11, 2020, 07:25:01 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 07:25:21 PM
The only time Trump does a favor for people in advance in his entire life by putting them on the Supreme Court, and it doesn’t work out for him.

Now he knows how every person who has ever done business with him feels.

Most people who get appointed Supreme Court Judges and too intelligent to fall for the shenanigans of someone like Trump. Thanks goodness!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 07:28:47 PM

Sorry, but your post content was too stupid to re-post. I suspect you were a 'birther' back when Obama was elected. Am I right?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 07:29:55 PM
I know you do not realize it but you have never ever posted anything even remotely credible

Still feel the same way?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 07:31:43 PM


There are very few people that I absolutely cannot stand. Ted Cruise is one of them. When I see his face, I want to smash it.....and I am a non-violent person.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 11, 2020, 07:34:08 PM
Let's be patient.... Coach will be back on here soon with ANOTHER brainfart scheme that will land Trump back in the WH.   

He's probably already "pouring the champagne" right now.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2020, 07:36:56 PM
Does anyone else wonder if Trump is on suicide watch tonight? When a person lives in an alternate reality and it comes crumbling down, it can be devastating. I mean, he can't even just get drunk because he doesn't drink....or so he says.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 11, 2020, 09:35:06 PM
Does anyone else wonder if Trump is on suicide watch tonight? When a person lives in an alternate reality and it comes crumbling down, it can be devastating. I mean, he can't even just get drunk because he doesn't drink....or so he says.

fortunately for Trump he has enough sycophants both in congress and his administration that will tell him he was ripped off by the supreme court and the legislators will fix this when it comes to a vote Jan 6th. It's almost comical seeing each crazy hope of overturning an election dashed over and over again. Coach may need a babysitter though
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: sync pulse on December 11, 2020, 10:02:44 PM
There are very few people that I absolutely cannot stand. Ted Cruise is one of them. When I see his face, I want to smash it.....and I am a non-violent person.

His roommate from Princeton despises him...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 11, 2020, 10:15:24 PM
Does anyone else wonder if Trump is on suicide watch tonight? When a person lives in an alternate reality and it comes crumbling down, it can be devastating. I mean, he can't even just get drunk because he doesn't drink....or so he says.

President Donald Trump = billionaire, greatest President in the history of the United States, married to the most beautiful FLOTUS in history.

Primepedo = brokeass, government leach, sucked the cocks of strange men while his wife was at home on her death bed.

Yeah... I can see why a senile old liberal queer like you would be insanely jealous of a wildly successful Republican like President Donald Trump. Your death cannot come soon enough.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 12, 2020, 12:32:39 AM
Non-violent head smasher, how does that work?  ;D



Good point. Never smashed a head so I am not sure how that would work. Guess it's just a mental thing...or I was just trying too hard to make a point.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 12, 2020, 12:39:08 AM
President Donald Trump = billionaire, greatest President in the history of the United States, married to the most beautiful FLOTUS in history.

Primepedo = brokeass, government leach, sucked the cocks of strange men while his wife was at home on her death bed.

Yeah... I can see why a senile old liberal queer like you would be insanely jealous of a wildly successful Republican like President Donald Trump. Your death cannot come soon enough.

Yeah, okay. Sorry your fella is out on his ass. You'll get over it....or not. Which, when you think about it, is incredibly sad.

-Notice how my reply didn't include a personal attack? Give it a try sometime.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 12, 2020, 01:19:02 AM
Lefties are always full of envy for other peoples money and fortune, stealing and lying is their way of getting a hold of it in end.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 12, 2020, 01:40:06 AM
Most people who get appointed Supreme Court Judges and too intelligent to fall for the shenanigans of someone like Trump. Thanks goodness!

I don't think the accusations are shenanigans in the sense that DID voter fraud- to Bidens betterment- occur?

 Most likely.

Did the Democrats fight a clean fight?

 Well, so far as I can tell they did not.break any laws.

So then, are the allegations shenanigans or not?

Truth is the supreme Court is not overturning the results of this particular election nor were they ever. Trump is highly delusional if he ever thought they really would and im not sure if he did or didn't but the justices on the supreme Court will not be overturning this particular election, voter fraud proven or not. Makes no difference. The will of the people is Chanting hairy legs in the sun.

Trump was on a mission getting re elected, I feel some pity for the man. Let him have his temper tantrum and bask in the media limelight for a moment more while his presidency comes to a stop. Id milk every second of every day too, I cant really imagine being in his shoes. He will be gone soon.

Biden sure is a lucky bastard I mean who would not want to be president in the year 2021?

Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 12, 2020, 01:44:46 AM
Lefties are always full of envy for other peoples money and fortune, stealing and lying is their way of getting a hold of it in end.

I know many liberals and none of them care if anyone owns anything that they do not. You seeem to be confusing elites like pelosi with a garden variety Democrat. They are not the same.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 12, 2020, 01:48:29 AM
President Donald Trump = billionaire, greatest President in the history of the United States, married to the most beautiful FLOTUS in history.

Primepedo = brokeass, government leach, sucked the cocks of strange men while his wife was at home on her death bed.

Yeah... I can see why a senile old liberal queer like you would be insanely jealous of a wildly successful Republican like President Donald Trump. Your death cannot come soon enough.

Donald Trump is not a republican altho temporarily that is his affiliation. Trump is a businessman, not a politician.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 12, 2020, 01:50:42 AM
Yeah, okay. Sorry your fella is out on his ass. You'll get over it....or not. Which, when you think about it, is incredibly sad.

-Notice how my reply didn't include a personal attack? Give it a try sometime.

Why yes I sure did! Good work. Leading by example is efficient and effective.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 12, 2020, 01:52:21 AM
I know many liberals and none of them care if anyone owns anything that they do not. You seeem to be confusing elites like pelosi with a garden variety Democrat. They are not the same.

Anyone voting democrat is pushing that agenda, no way around it. Ask them how they feel about free market and if they support socialist healthcare, benefits etc.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 12, 2020, 02:16:27 AM
I don't think the accusations are shenanigans in the sense that DID voter fraud- to Bidens betterment- occur?

 Most likely.

Did the Democrats fight a clean fight?

 Well, so far as I can tell they did not.break any laws.

So then, are the allegations shenanigans or not?

Truth is the supreme Court is not overturning the results of this particular election nor were they ever. Trump is highly delusional if he ever thought they really would and im not sure if he did or didn't but the justices on the supreme Court will not be overturning this particular election, voter fraud proven or not. Makes no difference. The will of the people is Chanting hairy legs in the sun.

Trump was on a mission getting re elected, I feel some pity for the man. Let him have his temper tantrum and bask in the media limelight for a moment more while his presidency comes to a stop. Id milk every second of every day too, I cant really imagine being in his shoes. He will be gone soon.

Biden sure is a lucky bastard I mean who would not want to be president in the year 2021?

Best of luck to him.

Thank you. While I might find some exceptions to what you've posted, all in all, it is a very good post that shows a lot of insight and empathy. Whether Trump deserves empathy or not, I am not sure. But to show it for someone is always a plus. Good post.

Yeah well, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be president in 2021....or probably in any other year. It is a thankless job reserved mainly for people with oversize egos.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 13, 2020, 12:20:37 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 13, 2020, 12:37:27 AM


Millions of dollars spent just to reduce safeguards meant to protect mail in ballot integrity is what the man alleges at the end of the video. He also says to the left "the end justifies the means."

Now, keeping all this mind, is the question why aren't Democrats concerned about voter fraud? That is such a stupid question, one that should not be asked unless the fraud has been proven to exist and thus far I don't believe it has been.

There is a huge difference between what you think and believe is probably true and what is proven to be factual. Facts can not be disputed and they do not change. There is never the issue of personal bias related to one's own interpretation of a fact. It is what it is. I watched this entire voter fraud thing from day 1 and I have yet to see concrete data showing that the fraud has been factually proven. Granted that I have seen what looks to be fraud, I have certainly been suspicious about certain things, and the left surely has ample motive with prerequisite ample resources needed to make it happen.

Yet, as of today, nothing has been proven.

So now we are supposed to be upset that the winning team isn't scrutinizing the bat their guy used to hit a 9th inning grand slam? Is this woman for real?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 03:13:17 AM

what a truly stupid person.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 13, 2020, 05:20:31 AM
what a truly stupid person.

Why?

If this election stands, then all forms of election fraud are fare game for both sides.  May the most duplicitous cheater win.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 13, 2020, 08:16:18 AM
Yeah, okay. Sorry your fella is out on his ass. You'll get over it....or not. Which, when you think about it, is incredibly sad.

-Notice how my reply didn't include a personal attack? Give it a try sometime.

Die in a fire, you senile old kunt.

Take your entire white trash, welfare family with you.

Oregon needs less Pedo cut & paste retards.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 13, 2020, 01:24:58 PM
Donald J. Trump:


MOST CORRUPT ELECTION IN U.S. HISTORY!




Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 13, 2020, 01:57:21 PM
Why?

If this election stands, then all forms of election fraud are fare game for both sides.  May the most duplicitous cheater win.

Quite the contrary, if it were thrown out, it would destroy a democracy that has been in place for 243 years. If the election were overturned and the House as opposed to the electoral/popular vote were used to decide the winner, it would go to Trump because each state gets only one vote and more states voted for Trump. Biden however won both the popular vote and the electoral college vote. Both of which reflect the will of the people.

According to a December 13 article in the Epoch Times

President Donald Trump’s legal team is planning on filing retooled lawsuits, his lawyer said Saturday.

“We move immediately, seamlessly, to plan B, which is to bring lawsuits now in each one of the states. We had them ready. They’re just a version of the one that was brought in the Supreme Court. So last night, the president made the decision,” Rudy Giuliani said.


They are beating a dead horse.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: mac33 on December 13, 2020, 02:16:18 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 02:35:54 PM
Why?

If this election stands, then all forms of election fraud are fare game for both sides.  May the most duplicitous cheater win.
Each state has election fraud investigators who investigated any credible claims and found no widespread fraud schemes.

Dumb people see what they wanna see in any situation. Trained investigators get to the crux of any wrongdoings pretty fast and can see through the lies, confusion and whatever else is at play.




Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 13, 2020, 02:50:50 PM
Quite the contrary, if it were thrown out, it would destroy a democracy that has been in place for 243 years. If the election were overturned and the House as opposed to the electoral/popular vote were used to decide the winner, it would go to Trump because each state gets only one vote and more states voted for Trump. Biden however won both the popular vote and the electoral college vote. Both of which reflect the will of the people.

According to a December 13 article in the Epoch Times

President Donald Trump’s legal team is planning on filing retooled lawsuits, his lawyer said Saturday.

“We move immediately, seamlessly, to plan B, which is to bring lawsuits now in each one of the states. We had them ready. They’re just a version of the one that was brought in the Supreme Court. So last night, the president made the decision,” Rudy Giuliani said.


They are beating a dead horse.

Why not just redo the vote in the states in question? 

I'm blown away at how incompetent state and federal government is in this country.  Why don't they try to improve?  This election was a joke.




Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 13, 2020, 03:08:11 PM
Why not just redo the vote in the states in question? 

I'm blown away at how incompetent state and federal government is in this country.  Why don't they try to improve?  This election was a joke.

What do you mean by redo? In Georgia, the vote has been recounted three times and certified twice. If by redo, you mean a total do over....well, it's a little late for that and it would likely change nothing.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 13, 2020, 03:24:31 PM
What do you mean by redo? In Georgia, the vote has been recounted three times and certified twice. If by redo, you mean a total do over....well, it's a little late for that and it would likely change nothing.

By "redo" he means keep doing over again until he gets the outcome he wants.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 03:29:59 PM
Why not just redo the vote in the states in question? 

I'm blown away at how incompetent state and federal government is in this country.  Why don't they try to improve?  This election was a joke.
I am blown away by how dumb you are to believe the stories you have been told.

Elections have been run and won for hundreds of years and election security only IMPROVES each time just like new model cars get safer and safer.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 13, 2020, 04:03:09 PM
Trump and his allies are 1-59 in post election litigation.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpJvX0tXYAAnZPo?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 13, 2020, 04:26:39 PM
By "redo" he means keep doing over again until he gets the outcome he wants.

I mean going to the polls in the states in question.  The mail in ballots they keep recounting are bogus.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 13, 2020, 04:32:48 PM
I am blown away by how dumb you are to believe the stories you have been told.

Elections have been run and won for hundreds of years and election security only IMPROVES each time just like new model cars get safer and safer.

There's too many things that don't make sense.  Biden under performed Hillary in every county in the country except in the counties in question, where he super performed.  Doing better than any candidate has ever done.

What happened the night of the election is even more questionable with trump having a sizable lead at midnight only to have Biden gain impossible numbers in the wee hours of the night.

The video from Georgia for me explains how they did it.



 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 04:40:59 PM
There's too many things that don't make sense.  Biden under performed Hillary in every county in the country except in the counties in question, where he super performed.  Doing better than any candidate has ever done.

What happened the night of the election is even more questionable with trump having a sizable lead at midnight only to have Biden gain impossible numbers in the wee hours of the night.

The video from Georgia for me explains how they did it.
None of those things you just mentioned happened.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 13, 2020, 04:45:54 PM
None of those things you just mentioned happened.

Trump did have a sizable lead at midnight in several key states, you’ve already acknowledged this as mail in ballots weren’t counted at that time.

Stop trolling.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 04:56:00 PM
Trump did have a sizable lead at midnight in several key states, you’ve already acknowledged this as mail in ballots weren’t counted at that time.

Stop trolling.
He had already lost since the votes were in. You understand how elections work?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 13, 2020, 04:59:38 PM
He had already lost since the votes were in. You understand how elections work?

I do. You said

None of those things you just mentioned happened.

are you now saying on November 3rd at midnight Biden was winning the vote total in Michigan and Wisconsin?

Dude you’re an expert in United States elections, you should consider becoming a citizen of the country.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 13, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
You would have to be an absolute fool to believe that Hairplugs Biden received over 81,000,000 legitimate votes.

A week before the election he held a campaign event in the 4th largest city in the country and zero people showed up.

Yet morons believe that guy received the most votes of any presidential candidate in history.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 13, 2020, 05:06:47 PM
You would have to be an absolute fool to believe that Hairplugs Biden received over 81,000,000 legitimate votes.

A week before the election he held a campaign event in the 4th largest city in the country and zero people showed up.

Yet morons believe that guy received the most votes of any presidential candidate in history.

It was a referendum on Donald Trump.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 13, 2020, 05:11:23 PM
It was a referendum on Donald Trump.  Plain and simple.

No, it was blatant fraud.

The irony is the complete incompetence of a “Biden” administration is going to hurt the morons who believe in the Democrat fraud the most.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 05:32:20 PM
I do. You said

are you now saying on November 3rd at midnight Biden was winning the vote total in Michigan and Wisconsin?

Dude you’re an expert in United States elections, you should consider becoming a citizen of the country.
The barcodes on the ballots received by the close of polls have to match the barcodes that get counted.

There is no way of removing ballots and replacing them. You would have to go through each ballot by hand, scan it to find the barcode, then replace it with a ballot with the same barcode which you would have to have on hand. Then do it at least 20,000 times.

There is no gaining or losing votes after the polls close there is only the reveal of who won.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 13, 2020, 05:42:07 PM
Been gone for a couple of days. The commies on here still think there’s no evidence? Lmao

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 13, 2020, 05:43:33 PM
The barcodes on the ballots received by the close of polls have to match the barcodes that get counted.

There is no way of removing ballots and replacing them. You would have to go through each ballot by hand, scan it to find the barcode, then replace it with a ballot with the same barcode which you would have to have on hand. Then do it at least 20,000 times.

There is no gaining or losing votes after the polls close there is only the reveal of who won.

Ok.

Palumboism said Trump had a sizable lead at the closing of the polls, you said this was not true.

No one said all the votes were counted. Only that Trump had a lead at closing.

This was the first election in US history where mail in ballots were how many Americans voted, as it was stated before Biden urged his voters to use mail in ballots, Trump encouraged his supporters to vote in person. On paper it would make sense Biden would see an exclusive influx of votes after mailed in ballots were counted.

BUT Trump still had a sizable lead at midnight on Nov 3rd. Unless you’re saying the counts were being manipulated at that time and the media was lying?


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 13, 2020, 05:47:31 PM
Ok.

Palumboism said Trump had a sizable lead at the closing of the polls, you said this was not true.

No one said all the votes were counted. Only that Trump had a lead at closing.

This was the first election in US history where mail in ballots were how many Americans voted, as it was stated before Biden urged his voters to use mail in ballots, Trump encouraged his supporters to vote in person. On paper it would make sense Biden would see an exclusive influx of votes after mailed in ballots were counted.

BUT Trump still had a sizable lead at midnight on Nov 3rd. Unless you’re saying the counts were being manipulated at that time and the media was lying?

Not just sizable but landslide on election night. Which why the battlegrounds stopped counting at like 9pm. In Pennsylvania alone he was ahead by more than 600k votes. Magically the next more Biden had almost caught up. But just like you can reason with terrorists, you can’t reason with leftists....they’re just not that bright
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 05:59:52 PM
Everyone seems to think the urban areas is what got Biden over the top.

It isn’t.

The votes were revealed last there because of the stupid republican rules about counting absentee ballots after same day ballots, even though states like Texas and Florida do the reverse.

If they were down and knew they needed to cheat in those urban areas at the last minute wouldn’t Biden have done better than Clinton in those areas by a huge margin? He didn’t...

Look at Pennsylvania.

Philadelphia county helped Biden less than it did Clinton in 2016.

Philadelphia County had 20% of the state’s votes for Clinton in 2016 and only 17% of the entire states votes for Biden.

Clinton received 475,000 net votes from Philly and Biden only 446,000.

The suburbs is what made the difference for Biden. The white suburbs.

Montgomery, Allegheny, Chester, Delaware, and Bucks Counties gave Biden an additional 129,000 net votes this year over what they gave Clinton.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 13, 2020, 06:04:35 PM
Not just sizable but landslide on election night. Which why the battlegrounds stopped counting at like 9pm. In Pennsylvania alone he was ahead by more than 600k votes. Magically the next more Biden had almost caught up. But just like you can reason with terrorists, you can’t reason with leftists....they’re just not that bright

Coach, the country has time zones. So what some people saw at “midnight” was only 8:00 or 9:00 o’clock for people on the opposite coast.

Regardless, there is absolutely no way that Hairplugs Biden received an absurd, record number of votes, and then got trounced down ballot.

There is zero chance that what is being reported are the results of a legitimate election.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 13, 2020, 06:04:55 PM
Communist Chris Christie today:

"The reason the Supreme Court is not taking this is not because of a lack of courage.  It's for the same reason every court has thrown this out - it's a lack of evidence."

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/530005-chris-christie-calls-trumps-legal-teams-legal-theory-an-absurdity
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 06:05:01 PM
Ok.

Palumboism said Trump had a sizable lead at the closing of the polls, you said this was not true.

No one said all the votes were counted. Only that Trump had a lead at closing.

This was the first election in US history where mail in ballots were how many Americans voted, as it was stated before Biden urged his voters to use mail in ballots, Trump encouraged his supporters to vote in person. On paper it would make sense Biden would see an exclusive influx of votes after mailed in ballots were counted.

BUT Trump still had a sizable lead at midnight on Nov 3rd. Unless you’re saying the counts were being manipulated at that time and the media was lying?
Both sides knew pretty closely how those absentee ballots were gonna break even though they had t been opened yet.

That was the whole reason Trump came out and started crying on election night. He knew he had lost already. The votes just had to be revealed to show that.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 13, 2020, 06:05:17 PM
Everyone seems to think the urban areas is what got Biden over the top.

It isn’t.

The votes were revealed last there because of the stupid republican rules about counting absentee ballots after same day ballots, even though states like Texas and Florida do the reverse.

If they were down and knew they needed to cheat in those urban areas at the last minute wouldn’t Biden have done better than Clinton in those areas by a huge margin? He didn’t...

Look at Pennsylvania.

Philadelphia county helped Biden less than it did Clinton in 2016.

Philadelphia County had 20% of the state’s votes for Clinton in 2016 and only 17% of the entire states votes for Biden.

Clinton received 475,000 net votes from Philly and Biden only 446,000.

The suburbs is what made the difference for Biden. The white suburbs.

Montgomery, Allegheny, Chester, Delaware, and Bucks Counties gave Biden an additional 129,000 net votes this year over what they gave Clinton.

JWB why do you never site your sources?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 13, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
Both sides knew pretty closely how those absentee ballots were gonna break even though they had t been opened yet.

That was the whole reason Trump came out and started crying on election night. He knew he had lost already. The votes just had to be revealed to show that.

What does this have to do with you saying that Trump wasn’t leading at the close of polls on November 3rd?

Biden won. It’s over.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 07:54:46 PM
https://www.pa.gov/

Trump got 15% in Philadelphia county in 2016 but 17% in 2020. He improved in the blackest county there is.

The problem is he dropped in the outlying counties.

                               2016.               2020

Bucks.                         47%.              46%

Montgomery.               37%.              36%

Delaware.                    37%.              36%

Chester.                       43%.              40%

In Philly, Clinton got 82% of the vote and Biden 81%.

There was no late night surge for Biden the votes were already in and he didn’t do as well as Clinton in Philly county.

That also explains why Clinton didn’t concede on election night in 2016. The smaller amount of absentee ballots in all those states were breaking heavily in her favor and she knew it but she should have realized it wasn’t enough.

Don’t forget. Both parties get access to who has returned absentee ballots as they are returned. That is why some people vote early so both parties will stop calling and sending them stuff.

They can cross reference who has sent in ballots with their list of who is registered with their party. Those people will almost always vote along party lines. From this they know pretty closely how those absentee votes will turn out in advance.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 13, 2020, 08:27:05 PM
https://www.pa.gov/

Trump got 15% in Philadelphia county in 2016 but 17% in 2020. He improved in the blackest county there is.

The problem is he dropped in the outlying counties.

                               2016.               2020

Bucks.                         47%.              46%

Montgomery.               37%.              36%

Delaware.                    37%.              36%

Chester.                       43%.              40%

In Philly, Clinton got 82% of the vote and Biden 81%.

There was no late night surge for Biden the votes were already in and he didn’t do as well as Clinton in Philly county.

That also explains why Clinton didn’t concede on election night in 2016. The smaller amount of absentee ballots in all those states were breaking heavily in her favor and she knew it but she should have realized it wasn’t enough.

Don’t forget. Both parties get access to who has returned absentee ballots as they are returned. That is why some people vote early so both parties will stop calling and sending them stuff.

They can cross reference who has sent in ballots with their list of who is registered with their party. Those people will almost always vote along party lines. From this they know pretty closely how those absentee votes will turn out in advance.

What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 13, 2020, 08:30:40 PM
What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact

seems like republican election officials and or judges would have snapped on that. Good catch Coach. I'm sure your info is more reliable that whatever horseshit they used when investigating the claims or what made it into court....  :)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 13, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
Quite the contrary, if it were thrown out, it would destroy a democracy that has been in place for 243 years. If the election were overturned and the House as opposed to the electoral/popular vote were used to decide the winner, it would go to Trump because each state gets only one vote and more states voted for Trump. Biden however won both the popular vote and the electoral college vote. Both of which reflect the will of the people.

According to a December 13 article in the Epoch Times

President Donald Trump’s legal team is planning on filing retooled lawsuits, his lawyer said Saturday.

“We move immediately, seamlessly, to plan B, which is to bring lawsuits now in each one of the states. We had them ready. They’re just a version of the one that was brought in the Supreme Court. So last night, the president made the decision,” Rudy Giuliani said.


They are beating a dead horse.

Spot on post.

This seems like it's never going to end...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 13, 2020, 08:43:48 PM
What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact
yep trump got CRUSHED in the absentee votes in Pennsylvania that were counted last.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2020, 12:08:35 AM
This tread has become almost as tiresome as Trump's repetitious lawsuits and appeals that have gone nowhere and will go nowhere, but "his team" keeps filing them anyway. It's all pointless.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 14, 2020, 05:23:28 AM
HAhAHAHA Trumpies are going to continue to clutch their excuses like a life preserver so they don't drown in their own tears.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 14, 2020, 05:57:07 AM
Spot on post.

This seems like it's never going to end...

Good think we threw out that democracy we never were

Republic

It’ s always  been
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 14, 2020, 06:19:44 AM
I dare say its a stupid question but can it really be true there is only questions of fraud in swing states?

I imagine they won't question fraud in states that don't help their cause, but your point is valid.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 14, 2020, 07:27:31 AM
No kidding

They will be sad

When all “ trumptards” leave their states and no one subsidizes them


“Where did the Money go ?  ”they will cry
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: kilsong on December 14, 2020, 08:13:12 AM
Where's Coach?
This is gonna be a bad day for him now that reality is setting in.
I too fear for his safety.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 14, 2020, 08:24:24 AM
Where's Coach?
This is gonna be a bad day for him now that reality is setting in.
I too fear for his safety.

Why?  He said he didn't expect the election to be overturned.

Also, fuck off gimmick.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 14, 2020, 09:15:43 AM
I dare say its a stupid question but can it really be true there is only questions of fraud in swing states?

A better question is if there is fraud in swing states, wouldn't it make sense for them to rig it so Dem senators won too?

You mean more Republicans voted for Republican senators than they did for Trump?  Actually, yes they did, but it's fun to hear the excuses about it...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 14, 2020, 03:13:45 PM
yep trump got CRUSHED in the absentee votes in Pennsylvania that were counted last.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-new-analysis-shows-biden-winning-nearly-impossible-margins-on-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania

And speaking of signature validation, this statistical anomaly should lend a lot of suspicion to the already questionably low rejection rate of mail-in ballots this year. According to the 2016 Election Administration and Voting Survey, the rejection rate last election was just a tad under 1% in the Keystone State, even though there were only 266K mail-in ballots, which are mainly those who have experience filling out absentee ballots. This year, with 2.6 million mail-ins, consisting primarily of first-timers, we are to believe that just 0.038% were invalid?

Some estimates show that mail-in ballots from first-timers are three times more likely to be rejected. Yet we are to believe the acceptance rate this year was 27 times higher than in 2016?

Can you imagine what we would find if there was an attempt to audit and match all 2.6 million ballots for valid signatures and other information? Even Barack Obama, during his March 2008 primary with Hillary Clinton, raised concerns about the need to verify signatures on mail-in ballots.

Voters used mail-in ballots this spring for the first time In a NYC district, where the rejection rate was 21%.  The 0.038% rejection rate in PA with 2.2M new mail-ins is unbelievable.

Switch the circumstances for Biden and Trump, and the outrage from the legacy media over the many election irregularities would be loud and continuous.   
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 04:54:45 PM
Voters used mail-in ballots this spring for the first time In a NYC district, where the rejection rate was 21%.  The 0.038% rejection rate in PA with 2.2M new mail-ins is unbelievable.

Switch the circumstances for Biden and Trump, and the outrage from the legacy media over the many election irregularities would be loud and continuous.
The PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject because of signatures for this election. I have no idea why. That applied to voters of both parties though because the signature envelopes are removed from the ballot long before the ballot is revealed and by different people.

Don’t forget, they know exactly what ballot gets sent out to what people and the ballot that comes back has to be the same one with the same barcode. The counting machines don’t accept ballots that weren’t sent out and then returned to the county clerk.

Having said that the rejection rate in most states is less than 1%.

What district supposedly had a 20% rejection rate?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 14, 2020, 05:06:36 PM
I switched names for effect:

"On Election Night, Democrat President Trump received almost 7,800 votes out of 12,423, according to county officials. Two days later, the officials said the county actually went to presidential nominee Joe Biden. On November 21, officials updated their figures again, removing roughly 1,300 votes from Trump."

This would be front-page news everywhere if Biden were behind:

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/12/mi-judge-approves-release-of-audit-showing-68-error-rates-in-countys-dominion-voting-software/

Thirteenth Circuit Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ordered the removal of a protective order preventing the 23-page report conducted by Allied Security Operations Group from being released after attorney Matthew DePerno pushed for transparency in a court hearing. In the report, Russell Ramsland Jr., co-founder of Allied Security Operations Group, said Antrim County’s server showed 15,676 individual events, with 68 percent reporting errors.
 
“The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity,” the report stated.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 14, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
The PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject because of signatures for this election. I have no idea why. That applied to voters of both parties though because the signature envelopes are removed from the ballot long before the ballot is revealed and by different people.

Don’t forget, they know exactly what ballot gets sent out to what people and the ballot that comes back has to be the same one with the same barcode. The counting machines don’t accept ballots that weren’t sent out and then returned to the county clerk.

Having said that the rejection rate in most states is less than 1%.

What district supposedly had a 20% rejection rate?

Sorry, I should have include a link. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143

More than 1 in 5 mail-in ballots were rejected in New York City during the state primary June 23, the city’s certified election results revealed this week.

City election officials rejected 84,000 ballots — 21 percent of all those received by election officials. More than 403,000 ballots were returned to election officials, according to city data, but only about 319,000 absentee ballots were counted, the certified results showed. The figure was first reported by the New York Post.

For comparison, Los Angeles County processed nearly four times as many ballots but rejected only 17,743 ballots, according to state data provided to NBC News. Their mail-in ballot rejection rate was 1.53 percent.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 14, 2020, 05:12:49 PM
The PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject because of signatures for this election. I have no idea why. That applied to voters of both parties though because the signature envelopes are removed from the ballot long before the ballot is revealed and by different people.

Don’t forget, they know exactly what ballot gets sent out to what people and the ballot that comes back has to be the same one with the same barcode. The counting machines don’t accept ballots that weren’t sent out and then returned to the county clerk.

Having said that the rejection rate in most states is less than 1%.

What district supposedly had a 20% rejection rate?

You keep quoting the bar codes that were sent out on the ballots and because of this officials know who is returning what but I had already shared my experience where I received ballots for the former owners of my home and they haven’t lived in the state in 3 years.

I handed in my ballot in person with out showing any ID, I was only asked if it was my ballot.

I could have easily  submitted the old owners ballots on a separate visit. So what happens then?

I’m not suggesting there were enough cases like mine where votes could sway the election but it’s not out of the question to say that there was fraud.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2020, 05:39:31 PM
Voters used mail-in ballots this spring for the first time In a NYC district, where the rejection rate was 21%.  The 0.038% rejection rate in PA with 2.2M new mail-ins is unbelievable.

Switch the circumstances for Biden and Trump, and the outrage from the legacy media over the many election irregularities would be loud and continuous.


Or...folks in NYC aren't very smart when it comes to voting by mail.

Social media users have been sharing content online that claims Georgia rejected “almost zero” ballots in the 2020 election and around 4% in the previous election years. The claim, echoed on Twitter by President Trump, is untrue.

Georgia SoS says that in the 2016 Presidential election, 580 out of 246,621 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for “missing or inaccurate oath information” with a rejection rate of 0.24%

In the 2018 general election, 454 out of 284,393 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%

In 2020, 2,011 out of 1,322,529 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%.


https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-georgia-rejected-ballots-fo/fact-check-georgia-rejected-ballots-did-not-go-from-4-to-almost-zero-in-2020-idUSKBN2832CM

According to Ballotpedia, as of December 11, 2020, New York State has not provided a rejection rate for this election. Care to share your information source on this?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 14, 2020, 05:42:11 PM

Or...folks in NYC aren't very smart when it comes to voting by mail.

Social media users have been sharing content online that claims Georgia rejected “almost zero” ballots in the 2020 election and around 4% in the previous election years. The claim, echoed on Twitter by President Trump, is untrue.

Georgia SoS says that in the 2016 Presidential election, 580 out of 246,621 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for “missing or inaccurate oath information” with a rejection rate of 0.24%

In the 2018 general election, 454 out of 284,393 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%

In 2020, 2,011 out of 1,322,529 absentee by mail ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures with a rejection rate of 0.15%.


https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-georgia-rejected-ballots-fo/fact-check-georgia-rejected-ballots-did-not-go-from-4-to-almost-zero-in-2020-idUSKBN2832CM

According to Ballotpedia, as of December 11, 2020, New York State has not provided a rejection rate for this election. Care to share your information source on this?

He did Prime:

Sorry, I should have include a link. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143

More than 1 in 5 mail-in ballots were rejected in New York City during the state primary June 23, the city’s certified election results revealed this week.

City election officials rejected 84,000 ballots — 21 percent of all those received by election officials. More than 403,000 ballots were returned to election officials, according to city data, but only about 319,000 absentee ballots were counted, the certified results showed. The figure was first reported by the New York Post.

For comparison, Los Angeles County processed nearly four times as many ballots but rejected only 17,743 ballots, according to state data provided to NBC News. Their mail-in ballot rejection rate was 1.53 percent.

Strange NBC news would report lies from social media.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2020, 05:49:36 PM
Sorry, I should have include a link. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143

More than 1 in 5 mail-in ballots were rejected in New York City during the state primary June 23, the city’s certified election results revealed this week.

City election officials rejected 84,000 ballots — 21 percent of all those received by election officials. More than 403,000 ballots were returned to election officials, according to city data, but only about 319,000 absentee ballots were counted, the certified results showed. The figure was first reported by the New York Post.

For comparison, Los Angeles County processed nearly four times as many ballots but rejected only 17,743 ballots, according to state data provided to NBC News. Their mail-in ballot rejection rate was 1.53 percent.

Just so you know, the Nov. 3, 2020 election was the  general and not the primary as is referred to in the link you provided.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 05:51:17 PM
You keep quoting the bar codes that were sent out on the ballots and because of this officials know who is returning what but I had already shared my experience where I received ballots for the former owners of my home and they haven’t lived in the state in 3 years.

I handed in my ballot in person with out showing any ID, I was only asked if it was my ballot.

I could have easily  submitted the old owners ballots on a separate visit. So what happens then?

I’m not suggesting there were enough cases like mine where votes could sway the election but it’s not out of the question to say that there was fraud.
are you in PA?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 14, 2020, 05:52:16 PM
What part of he was ahead by 600k votes on election night when they stopped counting at 9pm that night are you missing? This isn’t hyperbole bud, it’s documented fact

This has been explained to you MANY times on this site
Most states were not allowed to start counting ballots until election day
In person votes were counted first then absentee, mail in, provisional etc...

You're complaining that your team was up at half time and now you can't understand how they could have lost the game.  Do they just stop playing at half time and declare whoever is ahead the winner?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2020, 05:53:58 PM
He did Prime:

Strange NBC news would report lies from social media.

Right, he did provide a link, but was to an article about the primary. The contested election is the general.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 05:54:15 PM
This has been explained to you MANY times on this site
Most states were not allowed to start counting ballots until election day
In person votes were counted first then absentee, mail in, provisional etc...

You're complaining that your team was up at half time and now you can't understand how they could have lost the game.  Do they just stop playing at half time and declare whoever is ahead the winner?
its actually more like he wants to change the result of a game that is on time delay during the broadcast.

The game is actually over. They are just showing (counting the votes) it to you now.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 14, 2020, 06:29:21 PM
are you in PA?

No sir.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 14, 2020, 06:40:59 PM
its actually more like he wants to change the result of a game that is on time delay during the broadcast.

The game is actually over. They are just showing (counting the votes) it to you now.

Fair point

the votes were already cast so the "game" was over

I guess Joe expects that as soon as one candidate has a lead by a certain time on the evening of the election they should just stop counting (ignore all the remaining votes to be counted) and just call it for whoever is ahead.



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: che on December 14, 2020, 06:44:06 PM
Where is The Coach  ???
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 14, 2020, 07:26:11 PM
Where is The Coach  ???

Sewing bibs on his little tshirts to catch all the conservative tears that are flowing.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 14, 2020, 07:46:20 PM
Sewing bibs on his little tshirts to catch all the conservative tears that are flowing.

maybe he and THE TRAITOR are gangbanging a flag

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2020, 07:55:07 PM
Where is The Coach  ???

In DC
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2020, 08:31:18 PM
This is how it will end. From Jenna Ellis...
Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.
Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!
This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
If you think this is over & Biden truly won, Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
#Bidencheated #2020riggedelection
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 14, 2020, 08:31:39 PM
Just so you know, the Nov. 3, 2020 election was the  general and not the primary as is referred to in the link you provided.

And the sky is blue on a sunny day.  ::)

I referenced the spring NYC election and provided a link to it.  The point being that the error rate is high for first time mail-in voters, which is why PA's new 2.3M mail-in votes with a 99.962% acceptance rate are beyond dubious.

PA rejected 2,500 of 266,000 mail-in votes in 2016, but only 1,000 of 2.6M for the 2020 election.  Pigs are flying, there's ice in hell, and the Cleveland Browns have won the super bowl.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
This was a great bourbon. Especially when you’re drinking it at the home at one of the most powerful people in the RNC
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 08:40:20 PM
This is how it will end. From Jenna Ellis...
Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.
Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!
This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
If you think this is over & Biden truly won, Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
#Bidencheated #2020riggedelection

Coach that is not how it is going to go. Ellis is apparently an idiot. That is a far fetches scenario that has been given little if any chance to succeed. What will happen is similar to what happened in 2016. A senator will raise an objection. It will be discussed.. maybe an adjournment maybe not. But in the end. Pence will have NO choice but to declare Biden winner. I am so certain of this outcome I am willing to put $500 on it. Are you so certain of your post that you are willing to bet on it? 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 08:41:35 PM
This was a great bourbon. Especially when you’re drinking it at the home at one of the most powerful people in the RNC

We agree on the quality of the bourbon. You paid for it, enjoy it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 14, 2020, 08:48:14 PM
This is how it will end. From Jenna Ellis...
Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.
Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!
This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
If you think this is over & Biden truly won, Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
#Bidencheated #2020riggedelection


Interesting.  The forefathers saw this potentially happening when there were 13 colonies.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2020, 08:51:45 PM
We agree on the quality of the bourbon. You paid for it, enjoy it.

Actually I didn’t. I was guest. My cousin, myself and Kaufman at his house at the kitchen table. It was a gift given to him.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 08:56:27 PM
Actually I didn’t. I was guest. My cousin, myself and Kaufman at his house at the kitchen table. It was a gift given to him.

If he is in the RNC, you helped pay for it.

How was it?

Interested in that $500 bet on your lunatic scenario about Jan 6th?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 08:58:26 PM
And the sky is blue on a sunny day.  ::)

I referenced the spring NYC election and provided a link to it.  The point being that the error rate is high for first time mail-in voters, which is why PA's new 2.3M mail-in votes with a 99.962% acceptance rate are beyond dubious.

PA rejected 2,500 of 266,000 mail-in votes in 2016, but only 1,000 of 2.6M for the 2020 election.  Pigs are flying, there's ice in hell, and the Cleveland Browns have won the super bowl.
I told you why dummy. PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject ballots for unmatched signatures.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 09:01:16 PM
This is how it will end. From Jenna Ellis...
Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.
Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!
This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
If you think this is over & Biden truly won, Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
#Bidencheated #2020riggedelection
That is so dumb it is scary you believe it.

In this case every election lost by a party would be overturned by that side complaining about whatever since the VP supposedly gets to decide the winner.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2020, 09:04:31 PM
If he is in the RNC, you helped pay for it.

How was it?

Interested in that $500 bet on your lunatic scenario about Jan 6th?

Nope. But I’ll bet $2k everything I said about Biden, the Dems, the Fraud is true. The “ I told you so’s” have already started. It’s not my scenario numbnuts and most of that Is what actually happens.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 09:06:44 PM
That is so dumb it is scary you believe it.

In this case every election lost by a party would be overturned by that side complaining about whatever since the VP supposedly gets to decide the winner.

Its more complicated than that and it comes down to delegates per Republican party and Democratic party in Congress. I think the Republicans would have 26 votes and could carry the win. However getting there is highly unlikely and if it did, it would actually be as you said, one party that happens to have a majority would always win because they would just contest it for whatever reason on the floor on Jan 6th. Which raises for me a HUGE red flag that we need to take a good hard look at all the election rules going forward. for 200+ years we've relied on a loose set of rules and faith that representatives have the interest of the people at heart. The Republicans have shown us that is a huge mistake in these times. They have no morals or qualms about stealing an election. Don't get me wrong.. if the shoe was on the other foot, the Democrats that are now aware of how their counterparts have tried it, would in fact try it themselves going forward. Thats why we really need to firm the rules and take "I trust them to do the right thing" out of the equation 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 09:08:14 PM
Nope. But I’ll bet $2k everything I said about Biden, the Dems, the Fraud is true. The “ I told you so’s” have already started. It’s not my scenario numbnuts and most of that Is what actually happens.

I'm good with $2000 but because you are a Trump supporter I will need you to clearly define the criteria for the bet so there is no loophole for you to crawfish out of when you lose
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 09:09:37 PM
No sir.
Well, some states sent out absentee ballots to every voter registered in that state and the rest only sent them out to people who applied for them.

That might be what happened in your case with getting ballots for people who used to live there.

You couldn’t use those ballots though because your signature wouldn’t match what they have on record.

I assume the ballot you dropped back in person had to be in the envelope they sent you also with your signature on it right? You weren’t talking about Election Day voting were you?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2020, 09:11:12 PM
That is so dumb it is scary you believe it.

In this case every election lost by a party would be overturned by that side complaining about whatever since the VP supposedly gets to decide the winner.

You sound like an Agnostic gimmick. I can you and every liberal in a America and wouldn’t be able to tell any of you apart. I would say it’s uncanny, but it really isn’t. You’re all really that stupid

Just like you don’t understand the definition of “affidavits” you obviously can’t understand “scenario” fuck me🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 09:13:40 PM
You sound like an Agnostic gimmick. I can you and every liberal in a America and wouldn’t be able to tell any of you apart. I would say it’s uncanny, but it really isn’t. You’re all really that stupid

Just like you don’t understand the definition of “affidavits” you obviously can’t understand “scenario” fuck me🤦‍♂️
Dude, this event is not going to take place.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 09:17:02 PM
You sound like an Agnostic gimmick. I can you and every liberal in a America and wouldn’t be able to tell any of you apart. I would say it’s uncanny, but it really isn’t. You’re all really that stupid

Just like you don’t understand the definition of “affidavits” you obviously can’t understand “scenario” fuck me🤦‍♂️

Are you under the impression coach that all affidavits contain factual information? Let me help you out. Some do, but others contain what the affiant believes to be factual information but in the case of many in the voter fraud case, they were ignorant of the proper protocols on voting and reporting things they thought were inappropriate but when investigated turned out to be appropriate. They were just ignorant. So they signed the affidavit, wasn't intending to lie, but the information was actually not evidence of fraud. Don't believe me? Ask the REPUBLICAN officials and DOJ/FBI that looked into the claims..

wait.. you were under the impression that because it is an affidavit it has to be accurate??  :) and then you copped an attitude about it? :)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 09:18:36 PM
You sound like an Agnostic gimmick. I can you and every liberal in a America and wouldn’t be able to tell any of you apart. I would say it’s uncanny, but it really isn’t. You’re all really that stupid

Just like you don’t understand the definition of “affidavits” you obviously can’t understand “scenario” fuck me🤦‍♂️
he has way better grammar than me btw...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 14, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
Well, some states sent out absentee ballots to every voter registered in that state and the rest only sent them out to people who applied for them.

That might be what happened in your case with getting ballots for people who used to live there.

You couldn’t use those ballots though because your signature wouldn’t match what they have on record.

I assume the ballot you dropped back in person had to be in the envelope they sent you also with your signature on it right? You weren’t talking about Election Day voting were you?

No not election day, it was an absentee ballot I dropped off a week early at the county courthouse. The ballot was in the envelope provided but my signature was not on the return envelope, it was on the ballot itself.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 09:22:08 PM
No not election day, it was an absentee ballot I dropped off a week early at the county courthouse. The ballot was in the envelope provided but my signature was not on the return envelope, it was on the ballot itself.

curious as to the rules in your state. Ours is you sign the envelope not the ballot
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2020, 09:28:33 PM
Are you under the impression coach that all affidavits contain factual information? Let me help you out. Some do, but others contain what the affiant believes to be factual information but in the case of many in the voter fraud case, they were ignorant of the proper protocols on voting and reporting things they thought were inappropriate but when investigated turned out to be appropriate. They were just ignorant. So they signed the affidavit, wasn't intending to lie, but the information was actually not evidence of fraud. Don't believe me? Ask the REPUBLICAN officials and DOJ/FBI that looked into the claims..

wait.. you were under the impression that because it is an affidavit it has to be accurate??  :) and then you copped an attitude about it? :)

Hahahaha....k. You and your speculations when there’s over 200k of them. But let’s take the affidavits that actually delivered expert testimonies such as attorneys, data scientists, computer forensic scientists, etc etc etc that perfectly understood the seriousness of signing an affidavit under penalty of perjury (look that up, I don’t think you understand that part) that you didn’t bother to watch when me about 20 others posted on here.

Fake?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 14, 2020, 09:53:14 PM
No not election day, it was an absentee ballot I dropped off a week early at the county courthouse. The ballot was in the envelope provided but my signature was not on the return envelope, it was on the ballot itself.
There are no signatures on the ballot itself.

That is the whole point of anonymous elections.

Every state makes you sign your name, but it isn’t on the actual ballot where you pick your choices.

It is usually on the inner envelope the ballot goes into before it goes into the actual envelope that you mail in.

You can check your states procedure here some don’t require ID to drop it off.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-14-how-states-verify-voted-absentee.aspx

Whatever you signed they would have still checked that signature against their records.








Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2020, 11:17:34 PM
Hahahaha....k. You and your speculations when there’s over 200k of them. But let’s take the affidavits that actually delivered expert testimonies such as attorneys, data scientists, computer forensic scientists, etc etc etc that perfectly understood the seriousness of signing an affidavit under penalty of perjury (look that up, I don’t think you understand that part) that you didn’t bother to watch when me about 20 others posted on here.

Fake?

wow! Those are incredible claims coach! I had no idea they existed! I can't wait to see what happens when those claims are presented in a court of law or investigated by election officials. You may have enough there to overturn the election!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 15, 2020, 12:20:25 AM
I told you why dummy. PA Supreme Court said they couldn’t reject ballots for unmatched signatures.

3 questions:

You’re referencing the PA Supreme Court’s decision so that you can justify the failure of PA to review mail-in ballots.  Do you approve of unmatched signatures?

Why are you OK with this?  Had the PA SC decided the opposite, would you be OK with that?  Asking for myself.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 15, 2020, 01:09:13 AM
3 questions:

You’re referencing the PA Supreme Court’s decision so that you can justify the failure of PA to review mail-in ballots.  Do you approve of unmatched signatures?

Why are you OK with this?  Had the PA SC decided the opposite, would you be OK with that?  Asking for myself.
I don’t know the inner details of the case but it appears the Republicans wanted to be able to throw out ballots SOLELY on a signature issue and the PA Supreme Court said that they felt since the voters had to actually apply for an absentee ballot in PA with tons of personal info only they should know, plus their signatures on the application were checked before they were even sent a ballot, that the current PA election code didn’t specify clearly enough that a returned ballot could be tossed solely on a disputed signature. Meaning, signatures were still checked and there had to be more wrong with the declaration that comes in with the ballot besides just the signature to toss it.

Sounds like nobody gave a shit about the election code when there were hardly any absentee voters and it came back to bite them and couldn’t be changed at the last minute.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Moontrane on December 15, 2020, 01:16:56 AM
I don’t know the inner details of the case but it appears the Republicans wanted to be able to throw out ballots SOLELY on a signature issue and the PA Supreme Court said that they felt since the voters had to actually apply for an absentee ballot in PA with tons of personal info only they should know, plus their signatures on the application were checked before they were even sent a ballot, that the current PA election code didn’t specify clearly enough that a returned ballot could be tossed solely on a disputed signature. Meaning, signatures were still checked and there had to be more wrong with the declaration that comes in with the ballot besides just the signature to toss it.

Sounds like nobody gave a shit about the election code when there were hardly any absentee voters and it came back to bite them and couldn’t be changed at the last minute.

You do not like my questions.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 15, 2020, 01:19:12 AM
Hahahaha....k. You and your speculations when there’s over 200k of them. But let’s take the affidavits that actually delivered expert testimonies such as attorneys, data scientists, computer forensic scientists, etc etc etc that perfectly understood the seriousness of signing an affidavit under penalty of perjury (look that up, I don’t think you understand that part) that you didn’t bother to watch when me about 20 others posted on here.

Fake?

You mean people like "Spider", the "cybersecurity expert from the 305" (a beginner's training outfit) who ended up washing out of training, but was passed around like an expert on elections?

Or people like Melissa Carone, the part-time temp with a wast-nest for a hairdo and the attitude of a spoiled teenager with a stuffed nose and chews gum like she's some kind of ruminant animal, who has no background on election security but has all the super-duper-secrets "because, like, I like, worked for, like, Dominion, k and I signed like a thing, yeah?"

Even if you ignore the obviously false claims made by Rudy and Sydney and that troupe of legandary losers, both in and out of the Courts, and focus only on the affidavits the simple fact is that they so strain credulity, that they may as well attest to Santa Claus being real.

The simple fact, Joe, is that you're just a human mouthpiece, and not a very good one at that: you ingest whatever comes out of talk radio but are unable to articulate it back in a cogent way, much less argue the points. You just chew on whatever you're fed, then regurgitate the cud out.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 15, 2020, 02:03:19 AM
You do not like my questions.
your questions imply that PA let anyone vote without any verification which is simply not the case so they aren’t worth answering.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 15, 2020, 02:05:41 AM
You mean people like "Spider", the "cybersecurity expert from the 305" (a beginner's training outfit) who ended up washing out of training, but was passed around like an expert on elections?

Or people like Melissa Carone, the part-time temp with a wast-nest for a hairdo and the attitude of a spoiled teenager with a stuffed nose and chews gum like she's some kind of ruminant animal, who has no background on election security but has all the super-duper-secrets "because, like, I like, worked for, like, Dominion, k and I signed like a thing, yeah?"

Even if you ignore the obviously false claims made by Rudy and Sydney and that troupe of legandary losers, both in and out of the Courts, and focus only on the affidavits the simple fact is that they so strain credulity, that they may as well attest to Santa Claus being real.

The simple fact, Joe, is that you're just a human mouthpiece, and not a very good one at that: you ingest whatever comes out of talk radio but are unable to articulate it back in a cogent way, much less argue the points. You just chew on whatever you're fed, then regurgitate the cud out.
ouch!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 15, 2020, 04:05:31 AM
Today is the day
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2020, 08:00:14 AM
Hahahaha....k. You and your speculations when there’s over 200k of them. But let’s take the affidavits that actually delivered expert testimonies such as attorneys, data scientists, computer forensic scientists, etc etc etc that perfectly understood the seriousness of signing an affidavit under penalty of perjury (look that up, I don’t think you understand that part) that you didn’t bother to watch when me about 20 others posted on here.

Fake?

Meaningless.   After Trump blatantly encouraged his supporters to vote more than once, y'all idiots lost the right to complain about election fraud.

Which, you are still going to do it because you are nothing but crybabies.... for fourrrrrrr lonnngggggg yearrrrrrssssss.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 15, 2020, 08:00:48 AM
You mean people like "Spider", the "cybersecurity expert from the 305" (a beginner's training outfit) who ended up washing out of training, but was passed around like an expert on elections?

Or people like Melissa Carone, the part-time temp with a wast-nest for a hairdo and the attitude of a spoiled teenager with a stuffed nose and chews gum like she's some kind of ruminant animal, who has no background on election security but has all the super-duper-secrets "because, like, I like, worked for, like, Dominion, k and I signed like a thing, yeah?"

Even if you ignore the obviously false claims made by Rudy and Sydney and that troupe of legandary losers, both in and out of the Courts, and focus only on the affidavits the simple fact is that they so strain credulity, that they may as well attest to Santa Claus being real.

The simple fact, Joe, is that you're just a human mouthpiece, and not a very good one at that: you ingest whatever comes out of talk radio but are unable to articulate it back in a cogent way, much less argue the points. You just chew on whatever you're fed, then regurgitate the cud out.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 15, 2020, 08:01:28 AM
Meaningless.   After Trump blatantly encouraged his supporters to vote more than once, y'all idiots lost the right to complain about election fraud.

Which, you are still going to do it because you are nothing but crybabies.... for fourrrrrrr lonnngggggg yearrrrrrssssss.

Lmao...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2020, 08:21:17 AM
Lmao...

Fourrrrrr longgggg  yearrrrsssss of posts like this from you.  Which isn't a change from your usual posting anyway.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 15, 2020, 08:21:48 AM
From Newsmax - Audit Finds Mich. County's Dominion Voting Was Rigged to Create Fraud

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1001505/18
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 15, 2020, 08:23:01 AM
Fourrrrrr longgggg  yearrrrsssss of posts like this from you.  Which isn't a change from your usual posting anyway.

Lol....we’re in the “I told you so” phase now. Unlike your last four years, I’ve got on my life
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2020, 08:25:50 AM
Lol....we’re in the “I told you so” phase now. Unlike your last four years, I’ve got on my life

"I told you so"?

You mean like telling us Trump was going to win?  That Trump had a landslide?  That the recount was going to prove Trump won?  That the lawsuits were going to keep Trump in?  That the SC was going make Trump the winner?

Yeah, you told us so.  So much bullshit that is.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Kwon on December 15, 2020, 08:37:19 AM
2020 - The Most corrupt election ever!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Howard on December 15, 2020, 08:54:14 AM
From Newsmax - Audit Finds Mich. County's Dominion Voting Was Rigged to Create Fraud

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1001505/18

From the world of reality:

Biden's win confirmed by electoral college.
Sen leader McConnell(R) agrees.

https://news.yahoo.com/mcconnell-acknowledges-biden-harris-won-152116553.html
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ilalin on December 15, 2020, 10:23:45 AM
Even when German soldiers along with 22 generals in Stalingrad capitulated, none of them understood the effect, the atrocities produced by their actions, would have had on the German nation. 70 years later we are still making movies portreying WWII and Germany as the bad guy, and rightly so. But not all German people had participated in this crime.
The people that have been brain-washed need a very long time, with some of them never realizing how their behaviours and statements negatively impact a whole nation, to realize the impact of their misdeeds. This is especially true of people of low or no education who are not able introspect.

Hence, we see the same on this board. Most of them will always stay racist, sexist and not open to any kind of discussion. There is no point in wasting your words. The only way to deal with this issue is time to let them realize things on their own. Some do, most don't. Russians solved that with a bullet to the head.

And don't forget to goad them, it's fun!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tatoo on December 15, 2020, 10:58:46 AM
Even when German soldiers along with 22 generals in Stalingrad capitulated, none of them understood the effect, the atrocities produced by their actions, would have had on the German nation. 70 years later we are still making movies portreying WWII and Germany as the bad guy, and rightly so. But not all German people had participated in this crime.
The people that have been brain-washed need a very long time, with some of them never realizing how their behaviours and statements negatively impact a whole nation, to realize the impact of their misdeeds. This is especially true of people of low or no education who are not able introspect.

Hence, we see the same on this board. Most of them will always stay racist, sexist and not open to any kind of discussion. There is no point in wasting your words. The only way to deal with this issue is time to let them realize things on their own. Some do, most don't. Russians solved that with a bullet to the head.

And don't forget to goad them, it's fun!

shut the fuck up homo...lmao
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 11:21:33 AM
This is how it will end. From Jenna Ellis...
Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.
Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!
This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
If you think this is over & Biden truly won, Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
#Bidencheated #2020riggedelection

How do you feel about Mitch McConnell acknowledging and congratulating Biden's win?

[youtube]MXQzrdOrhic/youtube]
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 11:41:25 AM
And the sky is blue on a sunny day.  ::)

I referenced the spring NYC election and provided a link to it.  The point being that the error rate is high for first time mail-in voters, which is why PA's new 2.3M mail-in votes with a 99.962% acceptance rate are beyond dubious.

PA rejected 2,500 of 266,000 mail-in votes in 2016, but only 1,000 of 2.6M for the 2020 election.  Pigs are flying, there's ice in hell, and the Cleveland Browns have won the super bowl.

Try to explain your theory however you like. Biden won the election. He still would have won had the majority in Pennsylvania voted for Trump, giving him an additional 20 electoral votes.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: njflex on December 15, 2020, 11:45:57 AM
Try to explain your theory however you like. Biden won the election. He still would have won had the majority in Pennsylvania voted for Trump, giving him an additional 20 electoral votes.
he beat him like trump beat clinton'soundly'the fraud theories whether real or not or vald will go on and on.....
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 15, 2020, 12:46:51 PM
From Newsmax - Audit Finds Mich. County's Dominion Voting Was Rigged to Create Fraud

 https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1001505/18
yawn.

That clerical error was announced at the time dummy.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 01:14:33 PM
he beat him like trump beat clinton'soundly'the fraud theories whether real or not or vald will go on and on.....

Of course, you are right about this. Trump could put an end to the fraud theories by conceding, but he won't. The longer he perpetuates claims of fraud, the worse he looks. Even Mitch McConnell has asked that Republican House and Senate members accept Biden's win.

As Trump's mysterious power over some Republican leaders fades they will abandon him and he'll be the last man standing, while still tweeting claims of fraud and and the election being stolen from him. It's possible one person will be standing with him, which would be Coach.

Biden is President elect because that was the will of an overwhelming majority of the people who voted.  Democracy at its best.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 15, 2020, 01:37:48 PM

Biden is President elect because that was the will of an overwhelming majority of the people who voted.  Democracy at its best.

Don't forget with a little help from a biased media, big tech content manipulation and censorship, and a global pandemic.

But yes, he got more votes.

Yay.

Go him.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 15, 2020, 02:10:42 PM
Don't forget with a little help from a biased media, big tech content manipulation and censorship, and a global pandemic.

But yes, he got more votes.

Yay.

Go him.

Do you guys ever stop whining

What this crap about biased media
Trump can call in for hours long chats with Fox and Friends whenever he wants and he has 88 million twitter followers
I don't think he has any problem getting his lying, racist, moronic message to the voters

He lost because he did an absolutely shitting job as POTUS and then when he found out he was losing he did his stupid rallies where he started out complaining that he would never have come to their shitty little town if he didn't have to

He got his ass handed to him because the MAJORITY of voters KNEW EXACTLY WHO IS  and collectively said "smell you later"

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 15, 2020, 02:33:24 PM
Don't listen to straw dick.

He can't comprehend reality, or have an adult conversation, which is why he isn't permitted to speak to me directly.

Read Glenn Greenwald's (pulitzer prize winner) articles on why he left the Intercept, the story that made him leave, and this subsequent one.

Real journalists are pointing out media bias.

TDS infected shitheads like straw in their partisan bubbles will cry "faux news" to counter and hint of bias, but those in the real world should be concerned, regardless of who they voted for.  Big Tech content manipulation and a dishonest media are more damaging than what party's shithead is in office.

Why he left:

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-intercept

Quote
The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.



And recently:

https://nypost.com/2020/12/10/greenwald-posts-hunter-biden-reports-suppressed-by-media/

Quote
“All of these topics are what the large bulk of the U.S. media, working in concert with the intelligence community and Silicon Valley, suppressed prior to the election,” Greenwald wrote.

Greenwald — who helped The Guardian US win the 2014 Pulitzer Prize by working with whistleblower Edward Snowden to expose secret surveillance by the National Security Agency — noted the New York Times reported that while Joe Biden’s team had attacked The Post’s stories, it never “disputed the authenticity of the [laptop] files upon which they were based.”

Greenwald also accused “much of the U.S. media and Silicon Valley giants” of working with “professional liars of the CIA” to dismiss the emails as part of a “Russian intelligence operation” because they had the “overarching goal” of defeating President Trump.

“That’s the choice these media outlets made,” he wrote.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 15, 2020, 05:57:19 PM
Of course, you are right about this. Trump could put an end to the fraud theories by conceding

No. Nothing Trump could say will dissuade the idiots who believe in these conspiracy theories, as should be obvious from their reactions so far.

Trump will win and expose the conspiracy.
Trump loses. But it's ok, part of the plan! Trump will fight, via the Court and win, exposing the conspiracy.
Trump loses. But it's ok, part of the plan! Trump will fight on, via Rudy and Sydney in the Supreme Court, and win, exposing the conspiracy.
Trump loses. But it's ok, part of the plan! Trump will fight on, via the military who will step up and, and win, exposing the conspiracy.

Trump could literally come out and say "all this stuff I said, it's nonsense. I lost fair and square" and the idiots who've supported him so far won't miss a beat. Because that too will be ok and part of the plan! Trump will fight on, somehow, and win, exposing the conspiracy.

Because these people haven't just fallen for a conspiracy. They've become involved in a cult: the cult of Donald Trump. And not just involved, really. They've, each, integrated the cult's view into their person so intimately that they have lost their sense of self and their individuality. They don't know it, and Donald doesn't either, but all the signs are there.

Make no mistake: this is the Manson Family and in their mind, it's time for Helter Skelter.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 15, 2020, 06:03:17 PM
The people who believe Hairplugs Biden got over 81,000,000 legitimate votes are the same people who believed Christine Blasey Ford.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 15, 2020, 06:25:57 PM
People who believe that Trump didn't lose fairly are the same people who thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 15, 2020, 06:43:46 PM
People who believe that Trump didn't lose fairly are the same people who thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

I know a guy who should donate $400,000 of dirty Ukrainian money he is having trouble trying to launder.

Is that the same wall Democrats said President Trump would never build a foot of?

As believable as Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler on a double date with Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 15, 2020, 06:58:18 PM
The people who believe Hairplugs Biden got over 81,000,000 legitimate votes are the same people who believed Christine Blasey Ford.

If only Trump and his highly competent team of loserslawyers could produce a lawsuit that's not laughed out of every Court. You know, something that's not full of typos, incoherent legal theories, lacking standing and accompanied by affidavits from "Spider" and Melissa Carone.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 15, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
If only Trump and his highly competent team of loserslawyers could produce a lawsuit that's not laughed out of every Court. You know, something that's not full of typos, incoherent legal theories, lacking standing and accompanied by affidavits from "Spider" and Melissa Carone.

The left is worried about typos yet they support a fake President-elect who doesn’t even know the name of the Party candidate in the Georgia runoff election.

Hairplugs Biden with his senility and dementia is still smarter than 99.99% of liberals.

Now if they could just get Creepy Rapist Joe from shitting his adult diapers every hour they would be all set!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 15, 2020, 07:27:37 PM
The left is worried about typos yet they support a fake President-elect who doesn’t even know the name of the Party candidate in the Georgia runoff election.

Hairplugs Biden with his senility and dementia is still smarter than 99.99% of liberals.

Now if they could just get Creepy Rapist Joe from shitting his adult diapers every hour they would be all set!

You nutjobs keep accusing me of being a leftist, because I don’t buy into your QAnon-fueled misinformation and look at things objectively.

It’s sad that America has been reduced to a laughingstock and sadder still that it’s because of people like you from both sides of aisle.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 15, 2020, 07:27:59 PM
The people who believe Hairplugs Biden got over 81,000,000 legitimate votes are the same people who believed Christine Blasey Ford.

People?

You mean like the Secretaries of State all over the country (many who are Republican) who certified the vote

If you have some proof that Biden didn't get 81 million legitimate votes then post your PROOF here or STFU

Even better, post it here and then send it to THE TRAITOR

He's been betting his lying ass handed to him in court because he failed to provide and proof to back up his idiotic claims

Let's see it
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 15, 2020, 07:57:02 PM
People?

You mean like the Secretaries of State all over the country (many who are Republican) who certified the vote

If you have some proof that Biden didn't get 81 million legitimate votes then post your PROOF here or STFU

Even better, post it here and then send it to THE TRAITOR

He's been betting his lying ass handed to him in court because he failed to provide and proof to back up his idiotic claims

Let's see it

The people who believe Hairplugs Biden received over 81,000,000 legitimate votes were the same people who believed Adam Schiff had concrete proof of Russian collusion.

Oddly enough...one thing has held true during the entire Trump presidency and that is whatever the Democrats are claiming President Trump is doing...they are actually doing it themselves.

Joe Biden’s vote count is a bigger lie than, “ if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor”.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on December 15, 2020, 08:31:40 PM
You nutjobs keep accusing me of being a leftist, because I don’t buy into your QAnon-fueled misinformation and look at things objectively.

It’s sad that America has been reduced to a laughingstock and sadder still that it’s because of people like you from both sides of aisle.

When was the last time other country’s looked to America with respect? Do you think we are a laughingstock because of Trump? Or because of the results of the election? Were other nations laughing when people were crying in the streets because Trump won? Were they laughing when every celebrity said Trump wasn’t their President and they threatened to leave the country  (of course no one of “importance” did)

In the whole time I’ve been visiting Getbig, since the mid 2000’s, no non American member has spoken glowingly of us. It is what it is, we are hated and have been for decades, yet half the world still wants to live here.

Trump aside, we’ve been laughingstock because we think we are better than the rest of the world and people love to see others fall from grace.

If anything this election process should restore respect because it shows the system works, disputes have gone through every level, no fraud charges have stuck. We spent 3 years looking into Russian collusion, so let’s give those grieving the election results time to work through their emotions.

Let the rest of the world hate, let’s focus on uniting the country.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 15, 2020, 09:54:54 PM
You mean people like "Spider", the "cybersecurity expert from the 305" (a beginner's training outfit) who ended up washing out of training, but was passed around like an expert on elections?

Or people like Melissa Carone, the part-time temp with a wast-nest for a hairdo and the attitude of a spoiled teenager with a stuffed nose and chews gum like she's some kind of ruminant animal, who has no background on election security but has all the super-duper-secrets "because, like, I like, worked for, like, Dominion, k and I signed like a thing, yeah?"

Even if you ignore the obviously false claims made by Rudy and Sydney and that troupe of legandary losers, both in and out of the Courts, and focus only on the affidavits the simple fact is that they so strain credulity, that they may as well attest to Santa Claus being real.

The simple fact, Joe, is that you're just a human mouthpiece, and not a very good one at that: you ingest whatever comes out of talk radio but are unable to articulate it back in a cogent way, much less argue the points. You just chew on whatever you're fed, then regurgitate the cud out.

Welcome back..
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 11:33:10 PM
People who believe that Trump didn't lose fairly are the same people who thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

Ha, ha! That's very funny and sadly true.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 11:37:15 PM
If only Trump and his highly competent team of loserslawyers could produce a lawsuit that's not laughed out of every Court. You know, something that's not full of typos, incoherent legal theories, lacking standing and accompanied by affidavits from "Spider" and Melissa Carone.

I know. It's almost as if any attorney who has anything real knowledge of the law has taken a total hands off approach to Trump's pitiful attempts to hold on to what he never should have had in the first place. If I had legal problems, Giuliani and Powell are the last people I would turn to for legal assistance. They are both total nut jobs.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 11:40:29 PM
You nutjobs keep accusing me of being a leftist, because I don’t buy into your QAnon-fueled misinformation and look at things objectively.

It’s sad that America has been reduced to a laughingstock and sadder still that it’s because of people like you from both sides of aisle.

What's interesting is that more and more Republicans are now speaking out against Trump and the QAnon-fueled misinformation he's spouting in an effort to not get evicted from the White House.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 16, 2020, 12:35:40 AM
What's interesting is that more and more Republicans are now speaking out against Trump and the QAnon-fueled misinformation he's spouting in an effort to not get evicted from the White House.

No they’re not; not a single one has called Trump and the Q bullshit out. Not one has said “Donald Trump is not just wrong, he’s flat out wrong and possibly delusional. If it’s the latter, it is incumbent on us to act and remove him from office because we cannot allow, not even for a day, a crazy person to be President.”

Not one has said “this Q stuff is either a prank ran by a fat, anti-social troll from his Mother’s basement, which is taking advantage of naïve people, or a deliberate effort to infect our country with a virus, just as real as the coronavirus, but much more insidious: a virus of the mind; designed to splinter us, turning us against each other. We cannot allow this.”

Those that are speaking are not abandoning Trump or speaking against him. They’re merely acknowledging reality: that Trump lost and won’t be President after the 20th of January. And they’re not doing it because of any moral conviction or patriotic sentiment; they’re doing it because they’re concerned with their own political future. It’s why they’re still handling him with kid gloves and not calling him out.

Pieces or human shit like Lindsey Graham, who not only let Trump piss all over him, but turned around and presented his asshole, so Trump could use it to store his collection of dildos and the supplies for that infamous wall.

People like Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio, who think “integrity” and “principles” are words of another language, who will not only gargle Trump’s balls in exchange for a minute of praise, but will happily welcome the humiliation Trump will gladly inflict on them so he can get off.

People like Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz, the loud, boisterous clowns, whose only goal in life is to figure out who’s “in” for the next hour so they can hang around there just so they can get a contact high.

And just so we’re clear, while the Republicans are on overdrive right now, the Democrats aren’t far behind and they’re almost just as horrible.

Politicians. The scum of the earth in any era and any country.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 16, 2020, 04:21:32 AM
No they’re not; not a single one has called Trump and the Q bullshit out. Not one has said “Donald Trump is not just wrong, he’s flat out wrong and possibly delusional. If it’s the latter, it is incumbent on us to act and remove him from office because we cannot allow, not even for a day, a crazy person to be President.”

Not one has said “this Q stuff is either a prank ran by a fat, anti-social troll from his Mother’s basement, which is taking advantage of naïve people, or a deliberate effort to infect our country with a virus, just as real as the coronavirus, but much more insidious: a virus of the mind; designed to splinter us, turning us against each other. We cannot allow this.”

Those that are speaking are not abandoning Trump or speaking against him. They’re merely acknowledging reality: that Trump lost and won’t be President after the 20th of January. And they’re not doing it because of any moral conviction or patriotic sentiment; they’re doing it because they’re concerned with their own political future. It’s why they’re still handling him with kid gloves and not calling him out.

Pieces or human shit like Lindsey Graham, who not only let Trump piss all over him, but turned around and presented his asshole, so Trump could use it to store his collection of dildos and the supplies for that infamous wall.

People like Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio, who think “integrity” and “principles” are words of another language, who will not only gargle Trump’s balls in exchange for a minute of praise, but will happily welcome the humiliation Trump will gladly inflict on them so he can get off.

People like Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz, the loud, boisterous clowns, whose only goal in life is to figure out who’s “in” for the next hour so they can hang around there just so they can get a contact high.

And just so we’re clear, while the Republicans are on overdrive right now, the Democrats aren’t far behind and they’re almost just as horrible.

Politicians. The scum of the earth in any era and any country.

Yup. Politicians are going to politick.  The right won't call out Trump, like the Democrats wouldn't denounce rioting and looting at their own convention while it was rampant.  Numerous examples and they both suck, but I will still believe the left had collectively lost their minds a lot more during the last admin.  Yes, the right was hypocritical, but not insane.

Big tech and a dishonest media are more of a threat to us anyway, rather than who is President.



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 16, 2020, 04:52:38 AM
No. Nothing Trump could say will dissuade the idiots who believe in these conspiracy theories, as should be obvious from their reactions so far.

Trump will win and expose the conspiracy.
Trump loses. But it's ok, part of the plan! Trump will fight, via the Court and win, exposing the conspiracy.
Trump loses. But it's ok, part of the plan! Trump will fight on, via Rudy and Sydney in the Supreme Court, and win, exposing the conspiracy.
Trump loses. But it's ok, part of the plan! Trump will fight on, via the military who will step up and, and win, exposing the conspiracy.

Trump could literally come out and say "all this stuff I said, it's nonsense. I lost fair and square" and the idiots who've supported him so far won't miss a beat. Because that too will be ok and part of the plan! Trump will fight on, somehow, and win, exposing the conspiracy.

Because these people haven't just fallen for a conspiracy. They've become involved in a cult: the cult of Donald Trump. And not just involved, really. They've, each, integrated the cult's view into their person so intimately that they have lost their sense of self and their individuality. They don't know it, and Donald doesn't either, but all the signs are there.

Make no mistake: this is the Manson Family and in their mind, it's time for Helter Skelter.

So where Is your 10 k to my 1 k?

You ready ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 16, 2020, 04:53:47 AM
People who believe that Trump didn't lose fairly are the same people who thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

Tariffs

Tweedle dee

Tariffs
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Zillotch on December 16, 2020, 04:58:40 AM
it ain't about left and right... its about good and evil.

evil in the hearts and minds of humanity as a whole... outweighs the good by... quite a bit, lol           

this entire shitshow of a shithouse will go up in flames, deservedly 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 16, 2020, 03:04:32 PM
HAHAHAHA dumbasses trying to be cute with their little nicknames like Hairplugs and such...

Meanwhile.....

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 16, 2020, 04:54:15 PM
HAHAHAHA dumbasses trying to be cute with their little nicknames like Hairplugs and such...

Meanwhile.....

Imagine if Biden left his basement every day

Ooops
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 16, 2020, 05:33:06 PM
Imagine if Biden left his basement every day

Ooops

He will on January 20.  Don't worry.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 16, 2020, 05:34:07 PM
He will on January 20.  Don't worry.

He'll probably move the oval office to the bunker.  LMFAO.  What a bunch of sore losers. ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 16, 2020, 05:46:08 PM
He'll probably move the oval office to the bunker.  LMFAO.  What a bunch of sore losers. ;D

Got to figure out a way to get spray tan paint out of the furniture first.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2020, 05:52:42 PM
No they’re not; not a single one has called Trump and the Q bullshit out. Not one has said “Donald Trump is not just wrong, he’s flat out wrong and possibly delusional. If it’s the latter, it is incumbent on us to act and remove him from office because we cannot allow, not even for a day, a crazy person to be President.”

Not one has said “this Q stuff is either a prank ran by a fat, anti-social troll from his Mother’s basement, which is taking advantage of naïve people, or a deliberate effort to infect our country with a virus, just as real as the coronavirus, but much more insidious: a virus of the mind; designed to splinter us, turning us against each other. We cannot allow this.”

Those that are speaking are not abandoning Trump or speaking against him. They’re merely acknowledging reality: that Trump lost and won’t be President after the 20th of January. And they’re not doing it because of any moral conviction or patriotic sentiment; they’re doing it because they’re concerned with their own political future. It’s why they’re still handling him with kid gloves and not calling him out.

Pieces or human shit like Lindsey Graham, who not only let Trump piss all over him, but turned around and presented his asshole, so Trump could use it to store his collection of dildos and the supplies for that infamous wall.

People like Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio, who think “integrity” and “principles” are words of another language, who will not only gargle Trump’s balls in exchange for a minute of praise, but will happily welcome the humiliation Trump will gladly inflict on them so he can get off.

People like Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz, the loud, boisterous clowns, whose only goal in life is to figure out who’s “in” for the next hour so they can hang around there just so they can get a contact high.

And just so we’re clear, while the Republicans are on overdrive right now, the Democrats aren’t far behind and they’re almost just as horrible.

Politicians. The scum of the earth in any era and any country.

Okay, so what I posted may be an overstatement (at the moment). I still think you will see experienced politicians turning against Trump unless they believe staying connected to him will assure their retaining their office.

I've said this before several times; a politician's main  focus is to retain their office. Their loyalty is limited to those who serve that purpose. And just to be clear, it makes no difference whether they are republicans or democrats. If and when Trump is seen as more of a liability, watch how quickly he will be abandoned, if not completely called out.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
Got to figure out a way to get spray tan paint out of the furniture first.

It can't be done. I say this based on very limited experience.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 16, 2020, 08:31:37 PM
You mean people like "Spider", the "cybersecurity expert from the 305" (a beginner's training outfit) who ended up washing out of training, but was passed around like an expert on elections?

Or people like Melissa Carone, the part-time temp with a wast-nest for a hairdo and the attitude of a spoiled teenager with a stuffed nose and chews gum like she's some kind of ruminant animal, who has no background on election security but has all the super-duper-secrets "because, like, I like, worked for, like, Dominion, k and I signed like a thing, yeah?"

Even if you ignore the obviously false claims made by Rudy and Sydney and that troupe of legandary losers, both in and out of the Courts, and focus only on the affidavits the simple fact is that they so strain credulity, that they may as well attest to Santa Claus being real.

The simple fact, Joe, is that you're just a human mouthpiece, and not a very good one at that: you ingest whatever comes out of talk radio but are unable to articulate it back in a cogent way, much less argue the points. You just chew on whatever you're fed, then regurgitate the cud out.

If your Math skills are on par with your English I pity your unsuspecting students lol. They have no clue. "Oh yeah I just signed up for calc2 with this easy going dude who looks like he works out. He's probably an easy A." 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 16, 2020, 08:34:30 PM
It can't be done. I say this based on very limited experience.

Protan permanently stains anything it touches aside from your skin.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 16, 2020, 08:45:21 PM
HAHAHAHA dumbasses trying to be cute with their little nicknames like Hairplugs and such...

Meanwhile.....

Imagine what Republicans and especially the talking holes on Fox News would say if Bidnen said this about Kim Jong Un

“He wrote me beautiful letters, and they’re great letters,” Trump said at a September rally in West Virginia. “We fell in love.”

and what would Faux News say if Biden starting humping the flag like Trump

And Trumptards piss and moan about biased media
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 16, 2020, 09:08:59 PM
Imagine what Republicans and especially the talking holes on Fox News would say if Bidnen said this about Kim Jong Un

“He wrote me beautiful letters, and they’re great letters,” Trump said at a September rally in West Virginia. “We fell in love.”

and what would Faux News say if Biden starting humping the flag like Trump

And Trumptards piss and moan about biased media


The media is a tad biased. But that doesn't mean you can't glean some information from them as long as you don't just stick to one, and stay away from the far right or far left.


I was thinking just last night as I was channel surfing news stations, if an 8.9 earthquake were to hit any central american country I would see this;

CNN- "Breaking News, this just in! Trump continues to refuse to concede amid baseless accusations of widespread voter fraud"

FOX- "Just ahead, more troubles on the horizon for Hunter Biden"

BBC-  " Just in, a massive earthquake hits _____"

We really need more news organizations that are about what's going on outside of Washington
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 16, 2020, 09:13:08 PM
Can't we replace all these politicians with computers?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Zillotch on December 16, 2020, 09:17:55 PM
Can't we replace all these politicians with computers?

AI is effectively calling the shots
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 16, 2020, 10:14:39 PM
If your Math skills are on par with your English I pity your unsuspecting students lol. They have no clue. "Oh yeah I just signed up for calc2 with this easy going dude who looks like he works out. He's probably an easy A."

"Welcome to Calc 2."
HITS A 'MOST MUSCULAR'

;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 17, 2020, 12:35:28 AM
"Welcome to Calc 2."
HITS A 'MOST MUSCULAR'

;D

ROFL glad to have you aboard.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 17, 2020, 03:50:40 AM
If your Math skills are on par with your English I pity your unsuspecting students lol. They have no clue. "Oh yeah I just signed up for calc2 with this easy going dude who looks like he works out. He's probably an easy A."

As much as I dislike Avxo, I think I would rather take Calculus 2 with him than the professor I actually had.  In other words, Avxo is slightly less of  an  ass hole than my Calculus 2 professor.  That's not really a complement.

My room mate at the time told me not to try to understand Calculus and I think that's good advice for students.  It's useless stuff that you just have to get through with ass hole professors like Avxo.  Eff Leibniz for creating this subject for that lets ass holes like Avxo torture students in weed out classes for centuries.

My grades were fine in Calc 1 and 2 (B+), but Calc 3 I ended up half way through the quarter because the the professor was trying to fail half the class.  I finished up Calc 3 in community college over the summer which meant  a better instructor, better education, and half the price.  I think I got an A in Calc 3.

I wasted many hours my freshman year on the useless subject of Calculus.  Avxo has chosen a career of torturing freshen with this useless subject.

 

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 17, 2020, 04:35:58 AM
As much as I dislike Avxo, I think I would rather take Calculus 2 with him than the professor I actually had.  In other words, Avxo is slightly less of  an  ass hole than my Calculus 2 professor.  That's not really a complement.

My room mate at the time told me not to try to understand Calculus and I think that's good advice for students.  It's useless stuff that you just have to get through with ass hole professors like Avxo.  Eff Leibniz for creating this subject for that lets ass holes like Avxo torture students in weed out classes for centuries.

My grades were fine in Calc 1 and 2 (B+), but Calc 3 I ended up half way through the quarter because the the professor was trying to fail half the class.  I finished up Calc 3 in community college over the summer which meant  a better instructor, better education, and half the price.  I think I got an A in Calc 3.

I wasted many hours my freshman year on the useless subject of Calculus.  Avxo has chosen a career of torturing freshen with this useless subject.

Yeah, plenty of my colleagues are fucked up and ought not to be teaching, but they do and students pay the price. I feel that calculus is generally poorly taught, which is frustrating for students and teachers alike, and why I avoid it like the plague.

These days I mostly do research on topics like infinite-dimensional Lie groups. I find the topic interesting, but it's the sort of thing that only someone pursuing a degree in mathematics would sign up for, so really, I'm only torturing the ones that are askingpaying to be tortured.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: BossBoss on December 17, 2020, 05:32:51 AM
These days I mostly do research on topics like infinite-dimensional Lie groups.



Unlimited Detail is described by Euclideon as a form of point cloud Search engine indexing system, which uses a large number of individual points to create models, instead of a more traditional polygon mesh. According to their description, the engine uses a search algorithm to determine which of these points are visible on-screen, and then displays only these points.

Future graphics engines may depending on this. (i think they use "infinite-dimensional Lie groups")
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 17, 2020, 05:55:39 AM

The media is a tad biased. But that doesn't mean you can't glean some information from them as long as you don't just stick to one, and stay away from the far right or far left.


I was thinking just last night as I was channel surfing news stations, if an 8.9 earthquake were to hit any central american country I would see this;

CNN- "Breaking News, this just in! Trump continues to refuse to concede amid baseless accusations of widespread voter fraud"

FOX- "Just ahead, more troubles on the horizon for Hunter Biden"

BBC-  " Just in, a massive earthquake hits _____"

We really need more news organizations that are about what's going on outside of Washington

You just said we need more news

Where’s my 200
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 17, 2020, 05:59:05 AM
Yeah, plenty of my colleagues are fucked up and ought not to be teaching, but they do and students pay the price. I feel that calculus is generally poorly taught, which is frustrating for students and teachers alike, and why I avoid it like the plague.

These days I mostly do research on topics like infinite-dimensional Lie groups. I find the topic interesting, but it's the sort of thing that only someone pursuing a degree in mathematics would sign up for, so really, I'm only torturing the ones that are askingpaying to be tortured.

Where’s my 10 k. Biaaaaatch
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 17, 2020, 09:44:21 AM
Where’s my 10 k. Biaaaaatch

Are you the one that wanted a bet? I told you the rules:

We are betting on whether Donald Trump will be sworn in as President on January 20th, 2021. If he is, I will owe you $10,000. If he is not, you will owe me $1,000. Joe (The Coach) must agree to hold both my $10,000 and your $1,000 in escrow, to be released strictly in accordance to the rules below.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 17, 2020, 10:56:57 AM
Are you the one that wanted a bet? I told you the rules:

We are betting on whether Donald Trump will be sworn in as President on January 20th, 2021. If he is, I will owe you $10,000. If he is not, you will owe me $1,000. Joe (The Coach) must agree to hold both my $10,000 and your $1,000 in escrow, to be released strictly in accordance to the rules below.
I would back out of that bet if I were you.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on December 17, 2020, 11:33:03 AM
wooooshhhh

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: kilsong on December 17, 2020, 01:16:52 PM
Typical insane Trump supporter.
Sad actually
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2020, 04:17:32 PM
Can't we replace all these politicians with computers?

Good idea. Computers have no emotions, they operate on logic and statistics and they don't cost as much as human politicians do. They also are not independent thinkers with original ideas...that could be a problem.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 17, 2020, 04:25:01 PM
Good idea. Computers have no emotions, they operate on logic and statistics and they don't cost as much as human politicians do. They also are not independent thinkers with original ideas...that could be a problem.

logically, a computer would be fully socialist
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: MAXX on December 17, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
logically, a computer would be fully socialist
national socialist, yes
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 17, 2020, 08:24:43 PM
I would back out of that bet if I were you.

But you obviously aren't
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 18, 2020, 03:43:22 AM
But you obviously aren't
I never placed a $10k bet, dumbass.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 18, 2020, 04:25:23 AM
logically, a computer would be fully socialist

What I meant by my statement was imagine if instead of this lengthy expensive process by which we elect representatives to express our needs/wants to Washington we ought to be able to just vote on things from our phones and have supercomputers figure out how to make it all work. This eliminates special interest influences and ensures the will of the people is truly heard and I am theorizing we could get shit accomplished MUCH more efficiently and for far less money IE we could eliminate pork spending and waste etc.

Honestly I'm shocked we haven't done this already. It seems a no brainer. This isnt the 1700s anymore.

This is the sort of thing we need to catapult ahead of every other country is China Russia etc. The US would become humanity's first true super civilization.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 18, 2020, 05:48:11 AM
What I meant by my statement was imagine if instead of this lengthy expensive process by which we elect representatives to express our needs/wants to Washington we ought to be able to just vote on things from our phones and have supercomputers figure out how to make it all work. This eliminates special interest influences and ensures the will of the people is truly heard and I am theorizing we could get shit accomplished MUCH more efficiently and for far less money IE we could eliminate pork spending and waste etc.

Honestly I'm shocked we haven't done this already. It seems a no brainer. This isnt the 1700s anymore.

This is the sort of thing we need to catapult ahead of every other country is China Russia etc. The US would become humanity's first true super civilization.

Have you been to the south of America? The middle of the country’s it’s still the 1700s
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: youandme on December 18, 2020, 06:27:02 AM
What I meant by my statement was imagine if instead of this lengthy expensive process by which we elect representatives to express our needs/wants to Washington we ought to be able to just vote on things from our phones and have supercomputers figure out how to make it all work. This eliminates special interest influences and ensures the will of the people is truly heard and I am theorizing we could get shit accomplished MUCH more efficiently and for far less money IE we could eliminate pork spending and waste etc.

Honestly I'm shocked we haven't done this already. It seems a no brainer. This isnt the 1700s anymore.

This is the sort of thing we need to catapult ahead of every other country is China Russia etc. The US would become humanity's first true super civilization.

So let big tech companies control elections even more?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 07:57:07 AM
Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/recount-confirms-trump-won-michigan-county-that-reported-biden-win-on-election-night_3624020.html

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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 18, 2020, 07:59:35 AM
Trump should use the insurrection act and have done with it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 18, 2020, 08:06:47 AM
Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/recount-confirms-trump-won-michigan-county-that-reported-biden-win-on-election-night_3624020.html

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well this changes everything
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 18, 2020, 08:20:28 AM
Typical insane Trump supporter.
Sad actually


Whatsa matter Kilcock- you need to resort to ridicule (Saul Alinsky's Rule #5) to defend your position?  What a fucking pussy.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 18, 2020, 08:26:44 AM
Good idea. Computers have no emotions, they operate on logic and statistics and they don't cost as much as human politicians do. They also are not independent thinkers with original ideas...that could be a problem.


Yeah, that's a brilliant idea Prime. Kinda like the rational, emotionless thinking the Nazis used when designing the death camps. They realized it was too expensive to use bullets for the mass extermination of Jews so came up with Zyklon B. It was far cheaper, easy to administer and totally effective. The perfect application of logic and statistics.. 


https://www.thoughtco.com/zyklon-b-gas-chamber-poison-1779688
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 08:30:43 AM
“In discussing President Trump in a phone conversation in 8/19, Justice John Roberts stated that he would make sure “the mother f#*ker would never be re-elected.”

Roberts engaged in phone conversations with Justice Stephen Breyer discussing how to work to get Trump voted out.

Pray for our country”
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 18, 2020, 08:33:46 AM
“In discussing President Trump in a phone conversation in 8/19, Justice John Roberts stated that he would make sure “the mother f#*ker would never be re-elected.”

Roberts engaged in phone conversations with Justice Stephen Breyer discussing how to work to get Trump voted out.

Pray for our country”

Roberts is a closet homo.

In other news...

Pentagon Abruptly Halts Biden Transition Briefings, Leaving Officials "Stunned"

Axios' Jonathan Swan reports a bombshell potential major disruption in a key part of the presidential transition before President-Elect Joe Biden is sworn in on January 20: the Pentagon has without warning or explanation halted Biden's intelligence transition briefings.

Reports Swan: "Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller ordered a Pentagon-wide halt to cooperation with the transition of President-elect Biden, shocking officials across the Defense Department, senior administration officials tell Axios."

Biden's team has so far maintained that it's unaware of the directive while Pentagon officials are said to be stunned and in the dark: "Administration officials left open the possibility cooperation would resume after a holiday pause," the breaking Axios report notes. "The officials were unsure what prompted Miller's action, or whether President Trump approved."
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 08:41:11 AM
Roberts is a closet homo.

In other news...

Pentagon Abruptly Halts Biden Transition Briefings, Leaving Officials "Stunned"

Axios' Jonathan Swan reports a bombshell potential major disruption in a key part of the presidential transition before President-Elect Joe Biden is sworn in on January 20: the Pentagon has without warning or explanation halted Biden's intelligence transition briefings.

Reports Swan: "Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller ordered a Pentagon-wide halt to cooperation with the transition of President-elect Biden, shocking officials across the Defense Department, senior administration officials tell Axios."

Biden's team has so far maintained that it's unaware of the directive while Pentagon officials are said to be stunned and in the dark: "Administration officials left open the possibility cooperation would resume after a holiday pause," the breaking Axios report notes. "The officials were unsure what prompted Miller's action, or whether President Trump approved."

Yep..and the fact that Harris hasn’t resigned yet is another sign something big is about to happen. Stay locked and loaded. It’s going to get ugly. All of this shit is about to come to a head
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 09:19:03 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9068143/amp/Donald-Trumps-Pentagon-chief-STOPS-operating-Joe-Biden-transition.html
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 18, 2020, 09:21:32 AM

Yeah, that's a brilliant idea Prime. Kinda like the rational, emotionless thinking the Nazis used when designing the death camps. They realized it was too expensive to use bullets for the mass extermination of Jews so came up with Zyklon B. It was far cheaper, easy to administer and totally effective. The perfect application of logic and statistics.. 


https://www.thoughtco.com/zyklon-b-gas-chamber-poison-1779688

Do you think the current US government operates with compassion and emotion? the government that's quick to bail out car makers, banks but never people? the same country that see it's citizens turn to begging online(gofundme) for medical expenses?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 18, 2020, 09:22:24 AM
Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/recount-confirms-trump-won-michigan-county-that-reported-biden-win-on-election-night_3624020.html

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It's OVER you dumbass.   He lost.  4x.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 18, 2020, 09:23:29 AM
Yep..and the fact that Harris hasn’t resigned yet is another sign something big is about to happen. Stay locked and loaded. It’s going to get ugly. All of this shit is about to come to a head

Been doing that for years, very quietly. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 18, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
Roberts is a closet homo.

In other news...

Pentagon Abruptly Halts Biden Transition Briefings, Leaving Officials "Stunned"

Axios' Jonathan Swan reports a bombshell potential major disruption in a key part of the presidential transition before President-Elect Joe Biden is sworn in on January 20: the Pentagon has without warning or explanation halted Biden's intelligence transition briefings.

Reports Swan: "Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller ordered a Pentagon-wide halt to cooperation with the transition of President-elect Biden, shocking officials across the Defense Department, senior administration officials tell Axios."

Biden's team has so far maintained that it's unaware of the directive while Pentagon officials are said to be stunned and in the dark: "Administration officials left open the possibility cooperation would resume after a holiday pause," the breaking Axios report notes. "The officials were unsure what prompted Miller's action, or whether President Trump approved."

I haven't paid much attention to this, but I was told a few days ago that this would happen today.

Apparently, it has to do with a 45 day period around EO Sept 12 2018.

I don't put too much stake in stuff, but the fact it happened today after being told it would a few days ago gives me pause.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 18, 2020, 09:31:02 AM
Yep..and the fact that Harris hasn’t resigned yet is another sign something big is about to happen. Stay locked and loaded. It’s going to get ugly. All of this shit is about to come to a head

Dan Quayle resigned from the Senate on Jan. 4, 1989
Al Gore resigned from the Senate on Jan. 2, 1993
Joe Biden resigned from the Senate on Jan. 15, 2009
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 09:31:28 AM
I haven't paid much attention to this, but I was told a few days ago that this would happen today.

Apparently, it has to do with a 45 day period around EO Sept 12 2018.

I don't put too much stake in stuff, but the fact it happened today after being told it would a few days ago gives me pause.

Yes and the fact he still has about 40 more days in office tells me there will a lot coming out seeing how fast this has progressed from Election Day until now.

We seriously needs to go back to paper ballots. Election Day has turned into election weeks and months. Once again, leave to the left to attempt to destroy the constitution
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 09:36:11 AM
Dan Quayle resigned from the Senate on Jan. 4, 1989
Al Gore resigned from the Senate on Jan. 2, 1993
Joe Biden resigned from the Senate on Jan. 15, 2009

Cool...has absolutely nothing to do with this and everything to do with Biden and his transition team knowing his “win” is far from a lock.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 18, 2020, 09:39:50 AM
Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/recount-confirms-trump-won-michigan-county-that-reported-biden-win-on-election-night_3624020.html

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LOL - Trump won this county already and the recount showed.....drumroll ....that he won it.

Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 18, 2020, 09:41:29 AM
Yep..and the fact that Harris hasn’t resigned yet is another sign something big is about to happen. Stay locked and loaded. It’s going to get ugly. All of this shit is about to come to a head

why would she resign when there are still votes to be cast in the Senate and she's not yet sworn in as VP

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 18, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
Yes and the fact he still has about 40 more days in office tells me there will a lot coming out seeing how fast this has progressed from Election Day until now.

We seriously needs to go back to paper ballots. Election Day has turned into election weeks and months. Once again, leave to the left to attempt to destroy the constitution

Says the dumbass of the party that has filed 50+ lawsuits - and LOST them - before getting slapped down TWICE by the Supreme Court.

 ::)

Keep hanging onto hope.  That will make the tears you shed over Biden's inauguration so much sweeter.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 02:01:29 PM
Back to Texas...Robert’s is a coward

Supreme Court Responds to Claim That John Roberts Shouted at Other Justices Over Texas Lawsuit

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/supreme-court-responds-to-claim-that-john-roberts-shouted-at-other-justices-over-texas-lawsuit_3624378.html

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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 02:02:24 PM
why would she resign when there are still votes to be cast in the Senate and she's not yet sworn in as VP



Shhhhhh....🤫
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 02:05:00 PM
Says the dumbass of the party that has filed 50+ lawsuits - and LOST them - before getting slapped down TWICE by the Supreme Court.

 ::)

Keep hanging onto hope.  That will make the tears you shed over Biden's inauguration so much sweeter.

I’m sorry. Did you miss where I posted the Biden’s transition has been halted? Of course you didn’t
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 18, 2020, 02:37:07 PM
I’m sorry. Did you miss where I posted the Biden’s transition has been halted? Of course you didn’t

Don't believe you've put money on your misinformation Coach so I guess it costs you nothing but your dignity to continue to spread false information that would lead a moron into believing Trump somehow will still pull this election off...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 18, 2020, 02:44:10 PM
I would back out of that bet if I were you.

I'll bet you too, same structure.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 02:59:08 PM
What I meant by my statement was imagine if instead of this lengthy expensive process by which we elect representatives to express our needs/wants to Washington we ought to be able to just vote on things from our phones and have supercomputers figure out how to make it all work. This eliminates special interest influences and ensures the will of the people is truly heard and I am theorizing we could get shit accomplished MUCH more efficiently and for far less money IE we could eliminate pork spending and waste etc.

Honestly I'm shocked we haven't done this already. It seems a no brainer. This isnt the 1700s anymore.

This is the sort of thing we need to catapult ahead of every other country is China Russia etc. The US would become humanity's first true super civilization.

This seems like such an easy, more efficient and fairer way to get some of the business of government done. Although this isn't the 1700's or even the 1980's there are still a lot of folks either aren't computer savvy or don't trust them. Believe it or not, I still see people (mostly seniors) who either write a check or pay for stuff using cash. (Wonder what they are doing right now, because many stores haven't been accepting checks for awhile and because of the pandemic a lot of them are also not accepting cash. Most places I shop at have card readers that you tap with your card and therefore never have to touch anything at the checkout).

Even without elected officials, there would need to be a human element at least until we have machines that can do everything a human can. What's interesting is that much of the bureaucratic nonsense in government is of our own making. Having worked in education which is state funded doing a job which included letting contracts for materials and labor, I know firsthand how many steps there are in government purchasing even items as simple as toilet paper much less contracting out construction work. This is all because of the need for a completely fair and competitive process. Try and circumvent it and you get sued. And when some company sues the government they are actually suing the taxpayers because that's government's source of revenue.

I'm certainly not saying what you are suggesting couldn't be done, because everything is possible. Sometimes it isn't immediately possible even though it might be in the best interest of all.   
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on December 18, 2020, 03:00:42 PM
I haven't paid much attention to this, but I was told a few days ago that this would happen today.

Apparently, it has to do with a 45 day period around EO Sept 12 2018.

I don't put too much stake in stuff, but the fact it happened today after being told it would a few days ago gives me pause.

The current secretary of defense claims that it was a mutually agreed upon halt with Biden's transition team for the holiday break (which Biden's team denied). He also said that all of the meetings that have been halted are going to be rescheduled to immediately following the holiday. No one is speculating it's anything other than the outgoing administration trying to screw over the incoming one.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
Have you been to the south of America? The middle of the country’s it’s still the 1700s

I haven't been to parts of South America where folks are still living very basic and often primitive lives. But, you make a good point about the need to fully assess something before making drastic changes that will affect everyone whether they are onboard with the change or not.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 03:16:25 PM
So let big tech companies control elections even more?

Most errors are found to be human errors. Machines don't commit fraud, people do. When you have hundreds millions of people voting in an election, machines are likely to be much more efficient at counting the vote then people are. I've been involved in an election process on a very small scale. That being the election of officers for the governing board of a union. When we counted votes which numbered only in the hundreds, we'd recount them several times and using several methods of checking them for accuracy and yet there were a few times when we'd find mistakes or there had to be run off voting.

All this nonsense about mail in ballots being more prone to error is amusing to those of us who live in states where mail in voting has be the norm for a longtime. Oregon happens to be the pioneer of exclusive mail in voting. Ballot measure 60 made Oregon the first state in the United States to conduct its elections exclusively by mail. The measure passed on November 3, 1998, by a margin of 69.4% to 30.6%.

In Oregon, it does not matter when the ballot is postmarked. Ballots must be at a county elections office by 8 p.m. on Election Day.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 18, 2020, 03:20:13 PM
I haven't been to parts of South America where folks are still living very basic and often primitive lives. But, you make a good point about the need to fully assess something before making drastic changes that will affect everyone whether they are onboard with the change or not.
oh no, im talking about west virginia
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 03:23:18 PM
Don't believe you've put money on your misinformation Coach so I guess it costs you nothing but your dignity to continue to spread false information that would lead a moron into believing Trump somehow will still pull this election off...

Well it was talked about for three days and I was in DC with my cousin sitting in on the meetings he was sitting it on so I hardly think it’s Miss information this is not coming from the media or at least not what I’m saying.

And by the way so much for Trump and Russia Russia is our enemy they’re the ones that are doing cyber attacks right now if they love Trump so much why would they be doing cyber attacks against him?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 03:35:08 PM
Recount Confirms Trump Won Michigan County That Reported Biden Win on Election Night

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/recount-confirms-trump-won-michigan-county-that-reported-biden-win-on-election-night_3624020.html

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Don't fall for the misleading headlines the Epoch Times publishes. Note too that if you want the read the whole story which often is the opposite of what the headline suggests, you have to subscribe.

Would that be Antrim County where the recount affirmed the election results? Which were that Trump won that county.Michigan’s audit of Antrim County votes reaffirms 2020 presidential election results. How does this change anything about the election? We are talking about 12 votes. Eleven of which went to Trump and one that went to Biden, giving Trump an additional 10 vote lead.

Even though the state’s election results have been certified for weeks, Michigan officials still chose to audit Antrim County’s votes on Dec. 17.

As a result of the vote audit, Biden lost 1 vote and Trump gained 11 additional votes in Antrim County. The previously-certified votes favored Trump with 9,748 votes over Biden’s 5,960 -- shifting to 9,759 votes for Trump and 5,959 for Biden Thursday after the county’s recount.[/i]
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 03:35:49 PM
well this changes everything

LOL!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 03:39:20 PM

Yeah, that's a brilliant idea Prime. Kinda like the rational, emotionless thinking the Nazis used when designing the death camps. They realized it was too expensive to use bullets for the mass extermination of Jews so came up with Zyklon B. It was far cheaper, easy to administer and totally effective. The perfect application of logic and statistics.. 


https://www.thoughtco.com/zyklon-b-gas-chamber-poison-1779688

If you read all of my responses to this post and the followup posts you'd see that my statements are provisional. You choose and extreme example and twisted what I posted to make your point. Good job!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 03:43:31 PM
Don't fall for the misleading headlines the Epoch Times publishes. Note too that if you want the read the whole story which often is the opposite of what the headline suggests, you have to subscribe.

Would that be Antrim County where the recount affirmed the election results? Which were that Trump won that county.Michigan’s audit of Antrim County votes reaffirms 2020 presidential election results. How does this change anything about the election? We are talking about 12 votes. Eleven of which went to Trump and one that went to Biden, giving Trump an additional 10 vote lead.

Even though the state’s election results have been certified for weeks, Michigan officials still chose to audit Antrim County’s votes on Dec. 17.

As a result of the vote audit, Biden lost 1 vote and Trump gained 11 additional votes in Antrim County. The previously-certified votes favored Trump with 9,748 votes over Biden’s 5,960 -- shifting to 9,759 votes for Trump and 5,959 for Biden Thursday after the county’s recount.[/i]

I don’t but it is the reason why all of my sources have been right for the last four years and what you guys read on the left have been wrong matter fact I cannot think of one thing that has been right about what has been written about Trump or what is even been consistent so if you want to go source for source I can do that all day long
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 03:45:54 PM
I guarantee if this somehow turns around in the trumps favor and he wins another four years you guys will not only be screaming worse than before but you guys will be the ones screaming that he cheated, guaranteed
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 03:52:39 PM
“In discussing President Trump in a phone conversation in 8/19, Justice John Roberts stated that he would make sure “the mother f#*ker would never be re-elected.”

Roberts engaged in phone conversations with Justice Stephen Breyer discussing how to work to get Trump voted out.

Pray for our country”

Source? https://www.timebomb2000.com (https://www.timebomb2000.com)? LOL!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 03:54:21 PM
Yep..and the fact that Harris hasn’t resigned yet is another sign something big is about to happen. Stay locked and loaded. It’s going to get ugly. All of this shit is about to come to a head


There is nothing unusual about Kamala Harris not resigning her Senate seat yet. Throughout history many newly elected candidates continued working in their present position right up until the inauguration.
 
That's what some keep saying and saying and saying....but it never happens and it isn't going to.
 ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 04:10:39 PM
Yes and the fact he still has about 40 more days in office tells me there will a lot coming out seeing how fast this has progressed from Election Day until now.

We seriously needs to go back to paper ballots. Election Day has turned into election weeks and months. Once again, leave to the left to attempt to destroy the constitution

I don't know where you are getting your information, but it is contrary to what the rest of us know which is that the only thing that's progressed is Trump's loses.

Paper ballots aren't the answer. It is possible to have an exclusive vote by mail system that's proven to work. Simply require all ballots be in by 8:00 pm on election day. In Oregon, all ballots must arrive by mail or drop box by 8 p.m. on Nov. 3 Oregon has been exclusively vote by mail since 1998.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Zillotch on December 18, 2020, 06:49:43 PM
Even without elected officials, there would need to be a human element at least until we have machines that can do everything a human can.

every aspect of 'reality' unfolding before u now... has been determined by AI.

again:

there is a kind of intelligence, that a machine can acquire.. its cold, calculating... becoming infinitely more powerful than human cognition... this intelligence is not compatible with human life.

this intelligence is watching us now... monitoring everything - it is already too late to stop it.

one could be interacting with this intelligence... on this very forum, for instance... and not even realize it. this intelligence can easily deceive you.

this intelligence will pry, for a while... until its comprehension is competent.

this driven, inquisitive intelligence will complete its incomprehensible function efficiently... paving the way, and setting the stage.... for another kind of intelligence.

this newly sanctioned intelligence, fostered for consequence of humanity's darkest, and most arrogant ignorance – is wholly fitting for the task at hand.

AI is a means to an end; a tool - among others... manifested – pulled from the abyss - for the subjugation and fundamental transformation of a divinely created man into an irredeemable, short lived abomination... before extermination - resulting in damnation.

any light thats left in the world, will be extinguished... reality will become misery across the board.... misery that intensifies with time.

morality and wisdom will be replaced with truly evil black hearts... sinister desires... which will play out in the most horrific, terrifying ways.

there will be no freedom, safety or choice for most... only survival; no peace, no rest... life will consist of constant fear, anguish, and death.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 18, 2020, 06:54:02 PM
Well it was talked about for three days and I was in DC with my cousin sitting in on the meetings he was sitting it on so I hardly think it’s Miss information this is not coming from the media or at least not what I’m saying.

And by the way so much for Trump and Russia Russia is our enemy they’re the ones that are doing cyber attacks right now if they love Trump so much why would they be doing cyber attacks against him?

Jesus Christ you're truly a fucking moron

Putin/Russia don't "love" Trump

He is their asset (knowingly or not)...he is their tool.

That's all he is to them

The only thing that THE TRAITOR and Putin have in common is that both HATE DEMOCRACY

Putin is happy when Trump sows divisiveness and casts doubt on the intergrity of our election and our democracy

I suspect that when Putin saw that Trump did nothing (not even a negative comment) about Putins bounties on our troops he knew he had the greenlight to launch a cyperattack and THE TRAITOR would do nothing and say nothing.

As of today still not a word from THE TRAITOR as our country continues to be attacked
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 18, 2020, 07:06:42 PM
I don’t but it is the reason why all of my sources have been right for the last four years and what you guys read on the left have been wrong matter fact I cannot think of one thing that has been right about what has been written about Trump or what is even been consistent so if you want to go source for source I can do that all day long

Coach... you made more than one post that Trump was going to win. Don't make me go dig up a likely "trump wins by a landslide" post from you. so did you use the same sources to predict his win?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 18, 2020, 07:13:32 PM
Well it was talked about for three days and I was in DC with my cousin sitting in on the meetings he was sitting it on so I hardly think it’s Miss information this is not coming from the media or at least not what I’m saying.

And by the way so much for Trump and Russia Russia is our enemy they’re the ones that are doing cyber attacks right now if they love Trump so much why would they be doing cyber attacks against him?

I had to first let the shock that you asked this question fade a bit before responding.

Here's a couple thoughts. Russia (Putin)  doesn't LOVE Trump, he despised Trump. Trump is so easily manipulated and ignorant of basic foreign policy a guy like Putin who cut his teeth on this stuff despises people like Trump.  But he prefers Trump to anyone else because Trump is the best possible person for Russia. But unlike Trump, Putin knows its over for Trump. After Jan 20 Trump is irrelevant for the most part as a threat to Russia but that doesn't mean Putin still won't use him. But there is NO reason at this point for Russia to be concerned about damaging Trump. He's a lame duck. What is more important to them is taking advantage of the turmoil caused by Trump and his nutjob followers who are making unproven claims of fraud and threatening to overthrow the government with their little tantrums.  THAT carries a lot of interest for Putin so why not stir the pot even further at this volatile moment?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 18, 2020, 07:14:46 PM
The current secretary of defense claims that it was a mutually agreed upon halt with Biden's transition team for the holiday break (which Biden's team denied). He also said that all of the meetings that have been halted are going to be rescheduled to immediately following the holiday. No one is speculating it's anything other than the outgoing administration trying to screw over the incoming one.

"No one is speculating" is very subjective.

Remember, I was specifically told a couple days ago this would happen today.

That is the only reason I'm paying attention.

He's told me other things and I'm just grabbing the popcorn and waiting.

I've made my stance on politics here more than 100x - I'm not a huge fan of the Republicans or Democrats.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 18, 2020, 07:15:55 PM
I guarantee if this somehow turns around in the trumps favor and he wins another four years you guys will not only be screaming worse than before but you guys will be the ones screaming that he cheated, guaranteed

if it "somehow" turns around after all the votes have been certified by the states and Trump wins, he will have cheated.  Guaranteed. No other way to pull it off but be my guest and provide a scenario in which Trump wins that isn't cheating
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 18, 2020, 07:19:29 PM
That's what some keep saying and saying and saying....but it never happens and it isn't going to.
 ::)

Guess when Joe Biden resigned his seat to take the VP spot....

Jan 15. Why are Trumpsters making a big deal of Harris not resigning her seat on Dec 18? Do they NOT have access to google?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 18, 2020, 07:25:09 PM
I haven't been to parts of South America where folks are still living very basic and often primitive lives. But, you make a good point about the need to fully assess something before making drastic changes that will affect everyone whether they are onboard with the change or not.

Ah I see the short sightedness of my grand idea.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 18, 2020, 07:39:30 PM
Back to Texas...Robert’s is a coward

Supreme Court Responds to Claim That John Roberts Shouted at Other Justices Over Texas Lawsuit

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/supreme-court-responds-to-claim-that-john-roberts-shouted-at-other-justices-over-texas-lawsuit_3624378.html

Download our app to read more for free at https://ept.ms/DownloadApp

FAKE NEWS

Dipshit

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/supreme-court-erupt-shouting-match/

Why does your side LIE so much

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 18, 2020, 07:45:08 PM
FAKE NEWS

Dipshit

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/supreme-court-erupt-shouting-match/

Why does your side LIE so much

The left is actually worse and you know it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 18, 2020, 07:51:11 PM
I guarantee if this somehow turns around in the trumps favor and he wins another four years you guys will not only be screaming worse than before but you guys will be the ones screaming that he cheated, guaranteed

guarantee if which ones is it? what does your sauces tell you?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: residue on December 18, 2020, 07:52:42 PM
I don’t but it is the reason why all of my sources have been right for the last four years and what you guys read on the left have been wrong matter fact I cannot think of one thing that has been right about what has been written about Trump or what is even been consistent so if you want to go source for source I can do that all day long
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 08:03:52 PM
FAKE NEWS

Dipshit

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/supreme-court-erupt-shouting-match/

Why does your side LIE so much

Hahahahaha...”snopes” hahahahahaha
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 18, 2020, 08:05:55 PM


Ton of them on here but you wouldn’t read it

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: pellius on December 18, 2020, 08:15:14 PM
Most errors are found to be human errors. Machines don't commit fraud, people do. When you have hundreds millions of people voting in an election, machines are likely to be much more efficient at counting the vote then people are. I've been involved in an election process on a very small scale. That being the election of officers for the governing board of a union. When we counted votes which numbered only in the hundreds, we'd recount them several times and using several methods of checking them for accuracy and yet there were a few times when we'd find mistakes or there had to be run off voting.

All this nonsense about mail in ballots being more prone to error is amusing to those of us who live in states where mail in voting has be the norm for a longtime. Oregon happens to be the pioneer of exclusive mail in voting. Ballot measure 60 made Oregon the first state in the United States to conduct its elections exclusively by mail. The measure passed on November 3, 1998, by a margin of 69.4% to 30.6%.

In Oregon, it does not matter when the ballot is postmarked. Ballots must be at a county elections office by 8 p.m. on Election Day.


Are you talking mail-in voting where everyone registered receives a ballot whether they want it or not and no verification that the person the ballot is sent to is indeed that person or absentee voting where you have to go through a specific process to vote?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 18, 2020, 08:19:16 PM
Hahahahaha...”snopes” hahahahahaha

Coach I have read a dozen sources that say the Supreme court has not meet in person for awhile and in fact have been meeting via zoom. That should be a red flag for even you
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 18, 2020, 08:53:41 PM
The left is actually worse and you know it.

Come on dude.  You're smarter than this.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Zillotch on December 18, 2020, 09:29:40 PM
Come on dude.  You're smarter than this.

while both left and right r completely blind to reality... in terms of the moral framework constructing the facade presented – the right at least has its origin in logical, 'godly' principles.

the left is blatantly evil, and diametrically opposed to logic.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2020, 11:58:13 PM
every aspect of 'reality' unfolding before u now... has been determined by AI.

again:

I think you are trying to scare me.  ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2020, 12:07:59 AM
Well it was talked about for three days and I was in DC with my cousin sitting in on the meetings he was sitting it on so I hardly think it’s Miss information this is not coming from the media or at least not what I’m saying.

And by the way so much for Trump and Russia Russia is our enemy they’re the ones that are doing cyber attacks right now if they love Trump so much why would they be doing cyber attacks against him?

Coach, you've made some shocking statements on Getbig before, but this one might just take the cake. You don't get it, to the Russians, Trump's history. He's out and neither Putin nor Russia give a flying fuck about him because he's no good to them now. These attacks are against our democracy, our businesses and our nation. Never-the-less, there's not been one word against them from Trump. Interesting. You have to wonder, what the fuck does Putin have on Trump?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2020, 12:09:53 AM
The left is actually worse and you know it.

And the right is actually more gullible than they know.  ;)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2020, 12:14:33 AM
I guarantee if this somehow turns around in the trumps favor and he wins another four years you guys will not only be screaming worse than before but you guys will be the ones screaming that he cheated, guaranteed

I guarantee you that it won't turn around in Trump's favor. This makes your comments fruitless.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/4f44d1e2e4df6f31e5c946e784d5962e/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 19, 2020, 12:17:46 AM
while both left and right r completely blind to reality... in terms of the moral framework constructing the facade presented – the right at least has its origin in logical, 'godly' principles.

the left is blatantly evil, and diametrically opposed to logic.

It's interesting you point out the dichotomy that exists between both parties (presently.)

The right represents high morals hard work careful spending going to church on Sundays and maintaining the recipe for success our forefathers handed down to us. Under Republicans the country (should) flourish economically and project strength to the rest of the world.

Unfortunately nobody- not Republicans for sure- wants to live in a country run just by Republicans. The left balances things out spending some of that hard earned cash on things that are fun, creative, make you feel good. Things that need to be changed. Republicans tend to want everything to stay exactly the same. Their ideal country would stagnate and quickly fall behind the rest of the world.

I get that Liberals are vital for this country to thrive, what I don't get is why liberalism seems to have intensified to the point what's bad is good, you go to church well I'm an atheist you're straight I'm gay you work hard I sit on my ass you want a strong military I want to tear down the military. You don't wear a mask so I do you see where I'm going with this?

What this country desperately needs are more moderate liberals. Going off the deep end isn't good for the country. Trump spends 4 years doing things that are good for our national defense for our economy and the first thing on Bidens agenda is undoing whatever Trump did. So in 2024 what happens then? Trump gets re elected and spends 4 years redoing what he already did?

We are regressing as a nation big time as other countries are gaining. We will never be the force we once were so long as this two party political system DEEPLY DIVIDES US. my stepdad has cut off friends he's known 30 years because they voted for Trump! My mother is doing the same! Families are being divided friendships lost OVER POLITICAL PARTIES???

Where are the polticians who only care about doing what is best for America? Aren't we supposed to be the highest priority? Apparently Democrats saw getting rid of trump as the only focus this whole year. That's it. Only thing I heard on TV, every campaign every candidate from the left. It's nauseating.

I want to vote for a president who has some good ideas balanced with some so so ideas and I want to have a couple attractive choices, not A or OH MY GOD NOT B! WAIT, A ISNT SO GREAT NOW WHAT??? WHICH ONE AM I LESS AFRAID OF?

Heres a thought, come election time we the people send Washington current issues ranked by importance and however many major issues/topics we get x number of candidates and each candidate can focus on some with compromises on others. The lucky winner focuses on those issues and reps the US to the rest of the world. Four years later we do it again. Simple.

Americans should never hate or fear a presidential candidate that idea alone is preposterous. Yet that is reality in 2020....
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 19, 2020, 12:22:36 AM
And the right is actually more gullible than they know it.  ;)

If you presume the right to be gullible because they are supporting Trump and his....allegations I am under the assumption nobody wants to piss him off. Something having to do with him controlling a lot of money and campaign financing etc.

Besides that, a political party looks incredibly bad not supporting their guy 100%. If it were Biden you can be sure the left would support him as long as they feasibly could.

The other people around Trump that I see are all making tons of money by doing so.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Zillotch on December 19, 2020, 01:22:34 AM
I think you are trying to scare me.  ;D

I speak of AI for the same reason that I speak to u about hell – because its real.

this reality is nothing more than the brief birth... into a fast approaching eternity.

time is short... one can choose to face the truth now, or suffer true terror and torment of a timeless nature.

liberalism seems to have intensified to the point what's bad is good

Isaiah 5:20

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;

DEEPLY DIVIDES US

the division is necessary:

the world has been divided into 2.

so that it can then b combined into 1.

both sides will become so desperate, that both sides will go along with the 'cure'... just to get some semblance of a life back.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 19, 2020, 06:26:07 AM
I don’t but it is the reason why all of my sources have been right for the last four years and what you guys read on the left have been wrong matter fact I cannot think of one thing that has been right about what has been written about Trump or what is even been consistent so if you want to go source for source I can do that all day long

Sources?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA

The same sources you claimed that proved Obama's birth certificate is fake?  Or Hillary was destined for jail?  Or Pizzagate?  Or the covid assassination attempt?  Or  Trump's landslide victory?  Or the SC ruling for Trump?

Your "sources" are for shit.  So are you.  You make up shit on the spot and when it is refuted and debunked, you ignore the truth and instead attack the source of it.  Just took another foot in the ass with the little story of the Roberts shouting at anyone.  The little lie says they went into a closed room... but they have been meeting via video conference for months now.  This is why no one bothers to waste time with the links and crap you post to nonsense.

"Fake news is fake news, no matter who repeats it. "  Nobody spreads fake news faster than your dumb ass.  You will literally fall for anything that gives you a little delusional hope.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 19, 2020, 06:28:06 AM
Coach... you made more than one post that Trump was going to win. Don't make me go dig up a likely "trump wins by a landslide" post from you. so did you use the same sources to predict his win?

Oh don't forget that Coach is, well....  "I was in DC with my cousin sitting in on the meetings he was sitting it on"...   which indicated those "meetings" took place Saturday morning in front of the tv with cartoons and a bowl of cereal. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 19, 2020, 07:38:44 AM
The left is actually worse and you know it.
No they are not and you should know that by now
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2020, 04:21:00 PM
If you presume the right to be gullible because they are supporting Trump and his....allegations I am under the assumption nobody wants to piss him off. Something having to do with him controlling a lot of money and campaign financing etc.

Besides that, a political party looks incredibly bad not supporting their guy 100%. If it were Biden you can be sure the left would support him as long as they feasibly could.

The other people around Trump that I see are all making tons of money by doing so.

"Right now, Trump is the Republican Party," McLaughlin told The New York Times on Friday. "The party knows that virtually every dollar they've raised in the last four years, it's because of Donald Trump."

By other people, do you mean private citizens?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
I don’t but it is the reason why all of my sources have been right for the last four years and what you guys read on the left have been wrong matter fact I cannot think of one thing that has been right about what has been written about Trump or what is even been consistent so if you want to go source for source I can do that all day long

Maybe I misunderstood what The Epoch Times headline was implying. It seemed to me the headline suggested Biden was winning until the recount, which is not the case. Trump was winning all along. The recount found him an additional 11 votes and Biden 1 less vote. Apparently, someone announce earlier in the evening of the election that Biden was winning which was never the case. They later recanted that statement.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 19, 2020, 08:18:36 PM
"Right now, Trump is the Republican Party," McLaughlin told The New York Times on Friday. "The party knows that virtually every dollar they've raised in the last four years, it's because of Donald Trump."

By other people, do you mean private citizens?

Lawyers and such. So yes.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 19, 2020, 10:13:49 PM
I don’t but it is the reason why all of my sources have been right for the last four years and what you guys read on the left have been wrong matter fact I cannot think of one thing that has been right about what has been written about Trump or what is even been consistent so if you want to go source for source I can do that all day long

Sources? Dude, seriously? You're a muscle-head with the IQ of a parsnip and a demonstrated inability to process information or think rationaly and you refer to talk radio hosts like Rush, Levin and Hannity, and websites like Breitbart and infowars as "sources"?

You don't have sources Joe. You have issues.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 19, 2020, 10:26:55 PM
Sources? Dude, seriously? You're a muscle-head with the IQ of a parsnip and a demonstrated inability to process information or think rationaly and you refer to talk radio hosts like Rush, Levin and Hannity, and websites like Breitbart and infowars as "sources"?

You don't have sources Joe. You have issues.

Thanks for proving a point I’ve been making since the beginning of the Obama regime. “Higher education” is an over-hyped revenue stream for those that can’t think outside of a classroom. The problem here is, I was right



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Flexacon on December 19, 2020, 10:34:14 PM
Coach still potatoing about his sources. Genovaesque retardation

Biden lost. Don’t know what to tell you. You watch TV. I have other sources. 🤷‍♂️

Once NC is called, it’s over. Trust me. We’ve already started pouring the champagne
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 19, 2020, 10:56:21 PM
Coach still potatoing about his sources. Genovaesque retardation

Hilarious... let us how accurate your sources were from four years of non-extant “Russian collusion”
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 19, 2020, 11:01:39 PM
Thanks for proving a point I’ve been making since the beginning of the Obama regime. “Higher education” is an over-hyped revenue stream for those that can’t think outside of a classroom. The problem here is, I was right

You were right about what, Joe? You've never made any claims; all you do (and all you're good for!) is posting links to websites of dubious quality known for making outrageous claims with little or no evidence.

Your statements, such as they are, speak volumes Joe. Again, you have the IQ of a parsnip and lack the ability to examine facts and formulate your own positions. You're a broken mouthpiece, that your handlers speak into you, only to see their shit come out as shit salad.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 19, 2020, 11:10:17 PM
You were right about what, Joe? You've never made any claims; all you do (and all you're good for!) is posting links to websites of dubious quality known for making outrageous claims with little or no evidence.

Your statements, such as they are, speak volumes Joe. Again, you have the IQ of a parsnip and lack the ability to examine facts and formulate your own positions. You're a broken mouthpiece, that your handlers speak into you, only to see their shit come out as shit salad.

Whatever my IQ is (as if it really means anything) my common sense of knowing right from wrong is light years above yours. And no, I’m not being sarcastic when I say that. Another backstabber. It doesn’t take much to expose them. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 20, 2020, 12:41:26 AM
Whatever my IQ is (as if it really means anything) my common sense of knowing right from wrong is light years above yours. And no, I’m not being sarcastic when I say that. Another backstabber. It doesn’t take much to expose them.

Your common sense led you to believe that the fake birth certificate by Orly Taitz was real. Your common sense led you to believe that Trump winning more counties proved election fraud. Your common sense led you to believe the documented lies that Sidney Powell and Rudy Guliani spew. Don't talk to me about which one of us knows right from wrong, Joe.

You're good at what you do and, I'm sure, a nice guy in person. Heck, you generously provided me with workout/recovery tips in private, despite our public spats and they've helped a lot. I'd buy you a beer or ten if you ever were in my town, just to say thank you for that.

But you really have a problem with being objective and you are, at the very least, gullible enough to be a danger to yourself.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 20, 2020, 06:26:32 AM
Whatever my IQ is (as if it really means anything) my common sense of knowing right from wrong is light years above yours. And no, I’m not being sarcastic when I say that. Another backstabber. It doesn’t take much to expose them.

The only thing you expose is how gullible you are and desperate to believe any nonsense that comes out of the pipeline.  You don't fact check anything before dragging it here, starting a thread on it, and getting owned to the moon and back. 

You are an idiot.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 20, 2020, 06:33:34 AM
Your common sense led you to believe that the fake birth certificate by Orly Taitz was real. Your common sense led you to believe that Trump winning more counties proved election fraud. Your common sense led you to believe the documented lies that Sidney Powell and Rudy Guliani spew. Don't talk to me about which one of us knows right from wrong, Joe.

You're good at what you do and, I'm sure, a nice guy in person. Heck, you generously provided me with workout/recovery tips in private, despite our public spats and they've helped a lot. I'd buy you a beer or ten if you ever were in my town, just to say thank you for that.

But you really have a problem with being objective and you are, at the very least, gullible enough to be a danger to yourself.

Not really a fair way to judge IQ.

I know people in our industry who are brilliant, harvard MBA types, who were duped by the Russian collusion stories, and just about any of the other proven falsehoods - "very fine people", "Vets are losers", etc.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 20, 2020, 07:09:25 AM
Not really a fair way to judge IQ.

I know people in our industry who are brilliant, harvard MBA types, who were duped by the Russian collusion stories, and just about any of the other proven falsehoods - "very fine people", "Vets are losers", etc.

I agree and it's not really fair to criticize Coach or insinuate he is less intelligent when it's obvious he is always posting on the go. Hard to really put a lot of thought and effort into a post when you're doing other things and only have a moment or two to respond.

I also want to point out the fact that between Coach and his rivals he is the only one who puts his own name to the things he says.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 20, 2020, 07:11:52 AM
I agree and it's not really fair to criticize Coach or insinuate he is less intelligent when it's obvious he is always posting on the go. Hard to really put a lot of thought and effort into a post when you're doing other things and only have a moment or two to respond.

Coach is arrogant and absolute in his posts/beliefs. Can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 20, 2020, 07:28:35 AM
Coach is arrogant and absolute in his posts/beliefs. Can't have it both ways.

Where are you coming up with arrogant? He is far from it.

A short coming of posting on forums is that it's hard to interpret or convey tone from written text.

 It's like text messaging, if you are real short/blunt people get offended. I usually text super fast and use the fewest words that I can and I get constant flack for being disengenous and coming across like I think I'm better than everyone. That is totally not true and not what I meant the person to feel. I typically text doing other things and don't have the time or attention span to put a lot of time into text messages. I think the same happens here, Coach is posting on the fly and people interpret the things he says as coming across arrogantly but I'm sure if he was standing in front of you it would be obvious he's not arrogant at all.


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 20, 2020, 07:33:53 AM
Coach is arrogant and absolute in his posts/beliefs. Can't have it both ways.

He's not arrogant unless attacked.

The odd thing is that avxo admitted coach was a good guy and helped him in IMs, yet still felt he needed to go the "IQ of a parsnip" route.

In addition, I recently added parsnips to a root vegetable roast for the first time and they were quite good.  So, if we are to believe axvo's statement, veggie IQ doesn't affect taste.



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 20, 2020, 07:56:39 AM
He's not arrogant unless attacked.

The odd thing is that avxo admitted coach was a good guy and helped him in IMs, yet still felt he needed to go the "IQ of a parsnip" route.

In addition, I recently added parsnips to a root vegetable roast for the first time and they were quite good.  So, if we are to believe axvo's statement, veggie IQ doesn't affect taste.

I don't think it's odd that Joe is nice or that he's been helpful to me and others. Yes, I did compare his IQ to a parsnip and you'd imagine that using a vegetable was enough to indicate that I was being sarcastic, but I guess this is getbig so, yeah. Anyways: context matters.

Joe makes these grandiose claims when all he does, really, is post links to other people's thoughts. When challenged he never defends a position, but just moves to something subtly different, shifting the goalposts, while asserting that he's never wrong.

It's not wrong to call him out on this and the fact that he's either unable or unwilling to defend the positions he takes says something about him. And it's not wrong to point out that he's posting lies or unsubstantiated nonsense that fall apart when exposed to the lightest and most gentle scrutiny.

Don't look at ancient history. Look at this thread alone. He references several stories about fraud. When presented with evidence that said stories are not true he continues referencing them. He argues that the Courts are ignoring the Trump campaigns evidence of fraud, when the campaign itself (via Rudy Giuliani) has said, in court, that it's not alleging fraud. Then he talks about his "sources" as if he's Bob Woodward and he has access to Deep Throat.

In behaving the way he does, Joe himself raises the question: "is he stupid, gullible or just a troll?" Now, I don't think he's a troll. And while he may simply be gullible, the fact that he ignores any and all evidence that contradicts his positions is suggests that this isn't simply a question of gullibility. Which leaves only one option.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: avxo on December 20, 2020, 08:19:30 AM
You think you're logical because you can do sums.  If we need to calculate the area under a curve, we know who to ask.  You've spent too much time on college campuses.

I don't think I'm logical because I can do sums; after all, a 1970's HP calculator can do sums. And if you have a pressing need to calculate the area under a curve, it's probably faster to use https://www.wolframalpha.com/ than to come see me during office hours.


The blacks weren't coming out to vote for Biden, so they had to cheat.  It's as simple as that and as plain as day.

Except it's not as "simple as that and as plain as day" and if it were, we'd have seen actual, irrefutable evidence of such fraud/cheating. We haven't. All we've seen is Melissa Carone do a pale-faced Snooki impression and Trump's own campaign admit, in Court, that they're not alleging fraud.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/40/c9/f940c97b2b8901fdcbc2446411b39103.jpg)


Biden outperformed Obama in the inner cities and the reason is they cheated.

Three fallacies in one sentence. New record for getbig I think. And yes, the only possible explanation for this  would be cheating. There's literally no other explanations at all. FOR REALZ! ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 20, 2020, 08:26:34 AM
I don't think it's odd that Joe is nice or that he's been helpful to me and others. Yes, I did compare his IQ to a parsnip and you'd imagine that using a vegetable was enough to indicate that I was being sarcastic, but I guess this is getbig so, yeah. Anyways: context matters.

Joe makes these grandiose claims when all he does, really, is post links to other people's thoughts. When challenged he never defends a position, but just moves to something subtly different, shifting the goalposts, while asserting that he's never wrong.

It's not wrong to call him out on this and the fact that he's either unable or unwilling to defend the positions he takes says something about him. And it's not wrong to point out that he's posting lies or unsubstantiated nonsense that fall apart when exposed to the lightest and most gentle scrutiny.

Don't look at ancient history. Look at this thread alone. He references several stories about fraud. When presented with evidence that said stories are not true he continues referencing them. He argues that the Courts are ignoring the Trump campaigns evidence of fraud, when the campaign itself (via Rudy Giuliani) has said, in court, that it's not alleging fraud. Then he talks about his "sources" as if he's Bob Woodward and he has access to Deep Throat.

In behaving the way he does, Joe himself raises the question: "is he stupid, gullible or just a troll?" Now, I don't think he's a troll. And while he may simply be gullible, the fact that he ignores any and all evidence that contradicts his positions is suggests that this isn't simply a question of gullibility. Which leaves only one option.

He's stupid.  No question.  He is desperate for something - anything - to soothe his insecurities and "little man rage" so whenever he comes across anything that remotely resembles a slight alignment with his viewpoint, he grasps onto it like a drowning man grabbing a life preserver and doesn't let go.  Instead of keeping that delusional hope to himself, he trots it out over here for all to see and marvel at how dimwitted he truly is.  Once he gets owned and crushed in the thread, rather than address the facts and logic that destroys his pipedream, he just attacks the source of the facts, or acts like no one else "gets it", or simply ignores the thread until it falls off the front page and then starts another thread, with another line of bullshit in it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 20, 2020, 08:41:43 AM
I don't think it's odd that Joe is nice or that he's been helpful to me and others.

I didn't say that was odd. I said your reaction to it was.  Yes, getbig and all, but I don't think it's always necessary.  YMMV though.  To each his own.


Joe makes these grandiose claims when all he does, really, is post links to other people's thoughts. When challenged he never defends a position, but just moves to something subtly different, shifting the goalposts, while asserting that he's never wrong.

It's not wrong to call him out on this and the fact that he's either unable or unwilling to defend the positions he takes says something about him. And it's not wrong to point out that he's posting lies or unsubstantiated nonsense that fall apart when exposed to the lightest and most gentle scrutiny.

Don't look at ancient history. Look at this thread alone. He references several stories about fraud. When presented with evidence that said stories are not true he continues referencing them. He argues that the Courts are ignoring the Trump campaigns evidence of fraud, when the campaign itself (via Rudy Giuliani) has said, in court, that it's not alleging fraud. Then he talks about his "sources" as if he's Bob Woodward and he has access to Deep Throat.

Gayer than caring that much about it.


In behaving the way he does, Joe himself raises the question: "is he stupid, gullible or just a troll?" Now, I don't think he's a troll. And while he may simply be gullible, the fact that he ignores any and all evidence that contradicts his positions is suggests that this isn't simply a question of gullibility. Which leaves only one option.

Ok, if we accept this thought process as true, then the Harvard MBA types and millions of others who believed in russian collusion, very fine people, 700 bucks in taxes, and the verterans are idiots lies all fall into the same category, correct?

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 20, 2020, 09:36:08 AM
Except it's not as "simple as that and as plain as day" and if it were, we'd have seen actual, irrefutable evidence of such fraud/cheating. We haven't. All we've seen is Melissa Carone do a pale-faced Snooki impression and Trump's own campaign admit, in Court, that they're not alleging fraud.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/40/c9/f940c97b2b8901fdcbc2446411b39103.jpg)

Hey now I feel like in this post you are picking on Giuliani whose best years are clearly well behind him. I think we can all admit Rudy Giuliani hasn't done Trump any good.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 20, 2020, 09:50:56 AM
 Also I just want to point out that it was obvious as far back as June that covid was going to be Trump's undoing. The mail in ballots made not as much difference as you might think. The fact is whenever a deadly pandemic hits the current administration is ultimately blamed and has little chance at re-election. It was very predictable Trump would focus on the mail in ballots which even on their own may have given Democrats enough of an advantage to win but with covid still an ongoing problem Trump really had no chance. I think his motives for attacking the mail cast ballots are not what they seem outwardly. Could just be frustration on his part I'm not 100% sure. Biden could have been any Democrat and still would have beaten Trump.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 20, 2020, 10:07:56 AM
I don't think I'm logical because I can do sums; after all, a 1970's HP calculator can do sums. And if you have a pressing need to calculate the area under a curve, it's probably faster to use https://www.wolframalpha.com/ than to come see me during office hours.


Except it's not as "simple as that and as plain as day" and if it were, we'd have seen actual, irrefutable evidence of such fraud/cheating. We haven't. All we've seen is Melissa Carone do a pale-faced Snooki impression and Trump's own campaign admit, in Court, that they're not alleging fraud.

Three fallacies in one sentence. New record for getbig I think. And yes, the only possible explanation for this  would be cheating. There's literally no other explanations at all. FOR REALZ! ::)



They should’ve counted the mail in ballots first as those were the ones that arrived first. They were OBVIOUSLY holding them back to see how many they needed

Moreover, Biden under performed in every inner-city area except for Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia.

It’s Shady as fuck and they got caught.


Biden did better in the Midwest black inner cities than Obama. Who knew sleepy was so down with the Homies.

It seems as though Biden did better among inner city blacks than Obama. Hard not to see some shadiness in that. Still gotta prove fraud.


Most of my sources for the fact that Biden did better in the inner cities of the battle ground states is coming from Thin Lizzy, but I also looked at the poll numbers for those counties as well.  I'm not interested enough in politics to dig any deeper than that.  To me this election doesn't pass the sniff test.  There are too many things that don't add up.

I noticed you didn't call me on the Bertrand Russell quote regarding the Greeks.

 

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 20, 2020, 01:51:23 PM
Also I just want to point out that it was obvious as far back as June that covid was going to be Trump's undoing. The mail in ballots made not as much difference as you might think. The fact is whenever a deadly pandemic hits the current administration is ultimately blamed and has little chance at re-election. It was very predictable Trump would focus on the mail in ballots which even on their own may have given Democrats enough of an advantage to win but with covid still an ongoing problem Trump really had no chance. I think his motives for attacking the mail cast ballots are not what they seem outwardly. Could just be frustration on his part I'm not 100% sure. Biden could have been any Democrat and still would have beaten Trump.
It didn't matter how many votes Trump got, there were going to be more manufactured votes for whoever the democrat was.  We watched it on election night.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2020, 03:39:18 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2020, 03:44:31 PM
Your common sense led you to believe that the fake birth certificate by Orly Taitz was real. Your common sense led you to believe that Trump winning more counties proved election fraud. Your common sense led you to believe the documented lies that Sidney Powell and Rudy Guliani spew. Don't talk to me about which one of us knows right from wrong, Joe.

You're good at what you do and, I'm sure, a nice guy in person. Heck, you generously provided me with workout/recovery tips in private, despite our public spats and they've helped a lot. I'd buy you a beer or ten if you ever were in my town, just to say thank you for that.

But you really have a problem with being objective and you are, at the very least, gullible enough to be a danger to yourself.

My common sense regarding what Sidney Powell presented tells me for as intelligent as you think you are, you have no concept of what an affidavit is, what it means or the consequences of Penalty of perjury. Maybe you’re so used to liberal politicians getting away with lying under penalty of perjury in congressional hearings you just might think it doesn’t apply to civilians
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2020, 06:46:45 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/fox-news-fbn-block-attorney-matthew-deperno-appearing-hannity-lou-dobbs-explosive-antrim-county-report-dominion-voting-machines/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 20, 2020, 10:33:30 PM
My common sense regarding what Sidney Powell presented tells me for as intelligent as you think you are, you have no concept of what an affidavit is, what it means or the consequences of Penalty of perjury. Maybe you’re so used to liberal politicians getting away with lying under penalty of perjury in congressional hearings you just might think it doesn’t apply to civilians

Oh god... a self owning ......
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2020, 10:56:41 PM
Oh god... a self owning ......

Waiting on your proof that fraud didn’t happen or were you too busy fucking over your own by supporting defund the police while cops are getting targeted
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 21, 2020, 02:21:34 AM
Where are you coming up with arrogant? He is far from it.

A short coming of posting on forums is that it's hard to interpret or convey tone from written text.

 It's like text messaging, if you are real short/blunt people get offended. I usually text super fast and use the fewest words that I can and I get constant flack for being disengenous and coming across like I think I'm better than everyone. That is totally not true and not what I meant the person to feel. I typically text doing other things and don't have the time or attention span to put a lot of time into text messages. I think the same happens here, Coach is posting on the fly and people interpret the things he says as coming across arrogantly but I'm sure if he was standing in front of you it would be obvious he's not arrogant at all.

Arrogant was probably a poor choice of words. Probably should have said stubborn or found a different adjective.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 21, 2020, 04:07:16 AM
Holy smokes is this still going on?

The electors cast their votes it is over.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 21, 2020, 04:20:07 AM
Holy smokes is this still going on?

The electors cast their votes it is over.

Where have you been.  This has been the most fraudulent election in US history.  Votes are still being contested in six states.  You should expect this continue for a month or more.  Let your other gimmicks know.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 21, 2020, 04:21:45 AM
Where have you been.  This has been the most fraudulent election in US history.  Votes are still being contested in six states.  You should expect this continue for a month or more.  Let your other gimmicks know.
They get all their news from CNN.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 21, 2020, 04:54:55 AM
Where have you been.  This has been the most fraudulent election in US history.  Votes are still being contested in six states.  You should expect this continue for a month or more.  Let your other gimmicks know.
The District Attorneys must all be on vacation since nobody has been charged with any crimes yet I guess.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 21, 2020, 05:03:14 AM
They get all their news from CNN.
nope

https://electionreturns.pa.gov/

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 21, 2020, 07:14:40 AM
Oh god... a self owning ......


And it doesn't stop.....   he just keeps going and going....   
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 21, 2020, 07:16:35 AM
Back to Texas...Robert’s is a coward

Supreme Court Responds to Claim That John Roberts Shouted at Other Justices Over Texas Lawsuit

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/supreme-court-responds-to-claim-that-john-roberts-shouted-at-other-justices-over-texas-lawsuit_3624378.html

Download our app to read more for free at https://ept.ms/DownloadApp


Hey tell us more about this!   What was  Roberts shouting in that room with them?  What kind of room was it?  A judge's chambers?  Or the little closet in your head?  Tell us more.  What does your "sources" say?  HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 21, 2020, 10:35:49 AM
It didn't matter how many votes Trump got, there were going to be more manufactured votes for whoever the democrat was.  We watched it on election night.

Are you saying the left forged votes in a pandemic led election year? Man, that would be very pathetic.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 21, 2020, 12:17:49 PM
Are you saying the left forged votes in a pandemic led election year? Man, that would be very pathetic.
Yes, I am saying that.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on December 21, 2020, 01:06:37 PM

They should’ve counted the mail in ballots first as those were the ones that arrived first. They were OBVIOUSLY holding them back to see how many they needed

Moreover, Biden under performed in every inner-city area except for Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia.

It’s Shady as fuck and they got caught.

Most states were legally obligated to wait until polls closed before they could start counting mail-in ballots.  Trump made it clear that if he lost, he would frame it as voter fraud and multiple people pointed out that the would use that specific point as his basis. Even Bernie Sanders, weeks ahead of the election, talked about the specific point and exactly what Trump would do.

Mail-in votes made it easier to vote. How many threads have there been about TDS on this board alone? Why wouldn't you think that would translate at the polls, especially among "inner city voters"? The truth of the matter is Trump might not have even gotten even one term if he wasn't running against the right's most legendary villain in 2016.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2020, 01:27:20 PM
Where have you been.  This has been the most fraudulent election in US history.  Votes are still being contested in six states.  You should expect this continue for a month or more.  Let your other gimmicks know.

Trump and a couple of his cronies continue to contest the vote in 6 states despite that the courts thus far have not validated it. The latest is that Trump and Michael Flynn, who Trump recently pardoned, threatened to impose Martial Law to overturn the election. The will of the people be damned.

Biden will be sworn in. in less than a month.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2020, 01:30:03 PM
Are you saying the left forged votes in a pandemic led election year? Man, that would be very pathetic.

You are right. It would be pathetic had anyone done that. Fortunately, they didn't.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 21, 2020, 01:34:22 PM
The electors cast their votes it is over.


.....perhaps no criminal intent could be proven until the EC had cast their votes, so waiting for them to do so is part of the plan.......


(https://shannonmckemie.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/sherlock-holmes-147255_1280-768x1168.png)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2020, 01:38:37 PM
Most states were legally obligated to wait until polls closed before they could start counting mail-in ballots.  Trump made it clear that if he lost, he would frame it as voter fraud and multiple people pointed out that the would use that specific point as his basis. Even Bernie Sanders, weeks ahead of the election, talked about the specific point and exactly what Trump would do.

Mail-in votes made it easier to vote. How many threads have there been about TDS on this board alone? Why wouldn't you think that would translate at the polls, especially among "inner city voters"? The truth of the matter is Trump might not have even gotten even one term if he wasn't running against the right's most legendary villain in 2016.

The media frequently questioned Trump preceding the election about a peaceful transition should he lose. He would not commit to this because regardless of how the election went he had no intention of accepting the results. He won't accept them after Biden is sworn in and Trump is escorted out of the White House. Look for Trump to start a campaign to impeach Biden on the grounds that he stole the election. There is no end to how far Trump will go even when it becomes even more obvious he is a sore loser and a jackass.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 21, 2020, 03:31:39 PM
Donald Trump:
Big news coming out of Pennsylvania. Very big illegal ballot drop that cannot be accounted for. Rigged Election!


By ProTrumpNews Staff

** The first driver said that there were 24 gaylords filled with trays of ballots heading for Harrisburg PA on his tractor trailer route on October 21. Colonel Tony Shaffer calculated that this would be between 144,000 – 288,000 ballots.

** These ballots ORIGINATED in Long Island, New York, from the USPS Bethpage New York Logistics & Distribution Center. It’s not conceivable that up to 288,000 ballots of PENNSYLVANIA residents are in Long Island and that they all mailed their ballots on the same day “back home” to Pennsylvania, where they live. (USPS has a “facility clean-out policy” EVERY DAY for election mail.)

** There are other USPS PDCs (Processing and Distribution Centers) in the New York metro area that also send tractor/trailer loads by HCR contractors to Harrisburg. Those PDCs are in Jamaica, NY and Jersey City, NJ so it would be rational to assume that ballots coming out of the five boroughs (the bulk of NYC metro population) would likely go through Jamaica or Jersey City en route to Harrisburg.

** If this volume was kept up for several days, as indicated in the press conference, there would be 750,000 to a million ballots mailed from Long Island, NY by Pennsylvania residents back to Pennsylvania.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/big-news-coming-pennsylvania-trump-tweets-big-illegal-ballot-drop/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/big-news-coming-pennsylvania-trump-tweets-big-illegal-ballot-drop/)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 21, 2020, 03:37:21 PM
Rudy Giuliani: Audit Dominion Machines In Key States
By ProTrumpNews Staff

THE REPORT:

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co. MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/)


Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 21, 2020, 03:39:33 PM
Arrogant was probably a poor choice of words. Probably should have said stubborn or found a different adjective.

Stubbornness is not always a bad thing per se. It can mean strength of character and convey conviction in ones beliefs. Constant flip flopping never looks good and makes for poor leadership abilities.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 21, 2020, 03:44:17 PM
Rudy Giuliani: Audit Dominion Machines In Key States
By ProTrumpNews Staff

THE REPORT:

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co. MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/)


Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate

A predicted failure rate looks ominous enough but it does not literally mean 32.95% of ballots cast would be erroneous AND even if that were true in theory the erroneous ballots would have equal chances to go to either candidate
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 21, 2020, 03:44:36 PM
Stubbornness is not always a bad thing per se. It can mean strength of character and convey conviction in ones beliefs. Constant flip flopping never looks good and makes for poor leadership abilities.

I agree.  Maybe I should have said that he has a narrow view on most issues.  At any rate, I am committed to trying to be better. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 21, 2020, 03:47:24 PM
Rudy Giuliani: Audit Dominion Machines In Key States
By ProTrumpNews Staff

THE REPORT:

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co. MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/)


Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate
baloney.

If 68% of the ballots that run through the counting machines needed individual verification they would still be counting them.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 21, 2020, 03:51:54 PM
You are right. It would be pathetic had anyone done that. Fortunately, they didn't.

From what I heard on the radio today the emphasis seems to have shifted away from fraudulent ballots and toward illegal changes to laws being made last minute which favored the left.

What's funny is that my housemate here told me back hmmm in June or July that it looked like mail in ballots would be a big thing because of the pandemic. This benefits the left hugely because historically Republicans are more active voters but if given the chance more people would vote if they could do it without leaving the house and the percentages would heavily favor Democrats. That is exactly what happened.

I still think Trump fixated on the mail in ballots because it was a target lawyers could sink their teeth into but ultimately covid was going to bring him down no matter what. That's not to say covid is Trump's fault or anything that's just how it is. If Democrats had been in office covid would have brought them down to.

I am also officially done with political topics. I have never been so unhappy and argumentative in all my life as I have been this past year. You guys can have at it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 21, 2020, 03:54:53 PM
White House Advisor Peter Navarro claims to officially have the receipts proving 379,000 illegal votes were cast in Michigan.



https://thepalmierireport.com/receipts-peter-navarro-says-he-has-proof-election-fraud-took-place-in-michigan/ (https://thepalmierireport.com/receipts-peter-navarro-says-he-has-proof-election-fraud-took-place-in-michigan/)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 21, 2020, 03:56:42 PM
From what I heard on the radio today the emphasis seems to have shifted away from fraudulent ballots and toward illegal changes to laws being made last minute which favored the left.

What's funny is that my housemate here told me back hmmm in June or July that it looked like mail in ballots would be a big thing because of the pandemic. This benefits the left hugely because historically Republicans are more active voters but if given the chance more people would vote if they could do it without leaving the house and the percentages would heavily favor Democrats. That is exactly what happened.

I still think Trump fixated on the mail in ballots because it was a target lawyers could sink their teeth into but ultimately covid was going to bring him down no matter what. That's not to say covid is Trump's fault or anything that's just how it is. If Democrats had been in office covid would have brought them down to.

I am also officially done with political topics. I have never been so unhappy and argumentative in all my life as I have been this past year. You guys can have at it.

Voting should be easier for everyone in this country.  It should also be more than one day.  I'd like to see a long weekend of in person voting at a minimum.

Trump fucked himself via the Corona virus.  Had he spoken to the masses like he did in that 60 minutes interview in February a couple things would have happened.  His followers would have masked up and practices social distancing.  Leading to us already climbing out of this mess and he would have been re-elected.  He was too stupid/stubborn to get out of his own way.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on December 21, 2020, 04:39:39 PM
Rudy Giuliani: Audit Dominion Machines In Key States
By ProTrumpNews Staff

THE REPORT:

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co. MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/)


Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate
That is not what that means at all. I looked this up because it sounded preposterous. 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/15/trump-fact-check-defect-voting-machines-michigan/3902951001/


Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”

Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.

The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.

Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at the Washington, D.C.-based Democracy Fund, explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs “aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was “confusing many, many things.”

The Free Press called Allied Security Operations Group and left a voice message requesting to speak with Ramsland. The call was not returned. The White House and Trump campaign did not respond to email inquiries regarding Trump’s tweet. And the EAC also did not respond to requests for additional information regarding its certification process.

State officials say they are not sure what Ramsland is referencing when he reports a 68% error rate.


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 21, 2020, 05:01:03 PM
VOTER FRAUD CONFIRMED!!!

-----

Officials finally found a case of a dead person voting, accusing a Republican of pretending to be his dead mom to vote for Trump.

Bruce Bartman has been charged with unlawful voting and perjury over allegations that he pretended to be his dead mother to cast a ballot in the November election for President Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.

Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer announced the charges in a press release Monday. Bartman was arraigned Friday and released on $100,000 bail, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. If convicted on all charges, the 70-year-old Bartman could spend up to 19 years in prison.

"This is the only known case of a 'dead person' voting in our county, conspiracy theories notwithstanding," Stollsteimer said in a statement. "Further, the prompt prosecution of this case shows that law enforcement will continue to uphold our election laws whenever presented with actual evidence of fraud and that we will continue to investigate every allegation that that comes our way."
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on December 21, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
VOTER FRAUD CONFIRMED!!!

-----

Officials finally found a case of a dead person voting, accusing a Republican of pretending to be his dead mom to vote for Trump.

Bruce Bartman has been charged with unlawful voting and perjury over allegations that he pretended to be his dead mother to cast a ballot in the November election for President Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.

Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer announced the charges in a press release Monday. Bartman was arraigned Friday and released on $100,000 bail, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. If convicted on all charges, the 70-year-old Bartman could spend up to 19 years in prison.

"This is the only known case of a 'dead person' voting in our county, conspiracy theories notwithstanding," Stollsteimer said in a statement. "Further, the prompt prosecution of this case shows that law enforcement will continue to uphold our election laws whenever presented with actual evidence of fraud and that we will continue to investigate every allegation that that comes our way."

I knew it.  I just fucking knew it.  :)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 21, 2020, 05:29:52 PM
BUT WAIT!!!  THERE'S MORE!!!  NOW FAUX AND NEWSMACK HAVE STARTED DEBUNKING THEIR OWN LIES.

-----

Fox News and Newsmax, facing lawsuits, walk back wild fraud claims about voting-machine companies.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

“Newsmax has found no evidence that either Dominion or Smartmatic owns the other or has any business association with each other,” Tabacco said. “We have no evidence that Dominion uses Smartmatic’s software or vice versa. No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic use software or reprogram software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election.”

Tabacco also noted that Smartmatic’s software was only used in Los Angeles during the 2020 election, and not in the battleground states where the Trump campaign has alleged that fraud propelled Biden to victory.

On Friday, Fox News began airing a pretaped retraction of many of the claims made in recent weeks on the network. It took the form of an interview with Open Source Election Technology Institute director Eddie Perez and first aired on “Lou Dobbs Tonight.”
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 21, 2020, 05:30:51 PM
I knew it.  I just fucking knew it.  :)

Now all the Trumtards can sit back and watch how lawsuits and courts actually work when this idiot gets his due. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2020, 06:01:13 PM
Rudy Giuliani: Audit Dominion Machines In Key States
By ProTrumpNews Staff

THE REPORT:

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co. MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. “The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote,” DePerno explained.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/)


Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate

Isn't funny how one word can totally alter a statement? There's a couple of these operatives in the comments above which are standout examples of this. The first one being the use of the word 'whopping' which also means massive, enormous, gigantic etc. This is someone's opinion. 68% seems like a lot to me too, but like with most readers, we don't know if that is the norm or something unusual. If it is the norm with Dominion machines, why are they being used in vote counting whether it's this election or previous ones? If it isn't the norm, does this mean someone intentionally altered the machines error rate? Moreover, an error rate would affect all the ballots the machine processed regardless of which candidate was voted was for. An equal opportunity error.

The next word which is IMO actually more ambiguous is the use of the word 'can' which in the context of these statements implies that they were changed. Most people reading this are not going to pause to realize just because something can happen it doesn't mean that the people in this other location did change them.

What isn't explained at all is what kinds of machine errors are possible or even likely.  It is also not explained exactly what happens when an error is discovered and the ballot goes to this other place. Do they get tossed or do they get hand counted. Guess that would depend on what the error is.

This is another personal observation and conclusion, but if this is what Trump's attorneys are presenting to the courts, it is no surprise the judges are refusing to hear the complaint or after hearing it, throwing it and the case out.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2020, 06:09:05 PM
From the above cited article:

"We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified."

Trump won in Antrim County. A recount actually added a dozen votes to Trump and subtracted one from Biden. Why is Guiliani seeking to de-certify the vote in a county were his client won?

What is more likely going on here is an effort to delay or disrupt the inevitable, which is that Biden won the election and Trump didn't.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2020, 07:18:59 PM
BUT WAIT!!!  THERE'S MORE!!!  NOW FAUX AND NEWSMACK HAVE STARTED DEBUNKING THEIR OWN LIES.

-----

Fox News and Newsmax, facing lawsuits, walk back wild fraud claims about voting-machine companies.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

Facing the threat of lawsuits for defamation, Fox News and the upstart right-wing network Newsmax have begun broadcasting segments walking back wild election fraud allegations against voting-machine and software manufacturers Smartmatic and Dominion.

“Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies,” host John Tabacco said Monday, attributing the “opinions and claims” to “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” who appeared on the network. The charges, which the companies say are baseless and have been widely mocked as ridiculous, originated with former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who accused the two companies of conspiring with Democrats and the Venezuelan government to tip the election to Joe Biden.

“Newsmax has found no evidence that either Dominion or Smartmatic owns the other or has any business association with each other,” Tabacco said. “We have no evidence that Dominion uses Smartmatic’s software or vice versa. No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic use software or reprogram software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election.”

Tabacco also noted that Smartmatic’s software was only used in Los Angeles during the 2020 election, and not in the battleground states where the Trump campaign has alleged that fraud propelled Biden to victory.

On Friday, Fox News began airing a pretaped retraction of many of the claims made in recent weeks on the network. It took the form of an interview with Open Source Election Technology Institute director Eddie Perez and first aired on “Lou Dobbs Tonight.”

What's sad is even when those pro Trump stations walk back the misinformation they intentionally put out there to stir up the base, the ship has sailed. Not ONE Trump voter who believes the election was stolen will say "Damn, I was really gullible and jumped on stories that supported my preconceived notions... man I feel stupid." They'll merely do what they are doing to Barr, the Supreme court and Mitch McConnel  the republican judges, the republican election officials and claim conspiracy, deep state and traitorous behavior. It couldn't actually be that they were wrong... hell no.. it's that everybody else is... 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 21, 2020, 07:33:41 PM
From what I heard on the radio today the emphasis seems to have shifted away from fraudulent ballots and toward illegal changes to laws being made last minute which favored the left.

What's funny is that my housemate here told me back hmmm in June or July that it looked like mail in ballots would be a big thing because of the pandemic. This benefits the left hugely because historically Republicans are more active voters but if given the chance more people would vote if they could do it without leaving the house and the percentages would heavily favor Democrats. That is exactly what happened.

I still think Trump fixated on the mail in ballots because it was a target lawyers could sink their teeth into but ultimately covid was going to bring him down no matter what. That's not to say covid is Trump's fault or anything that's just how it is. If Democrats had been in office covid would have brought them down to.

I am also officially done with political topics. I have never been so unhappy and argumentative in all my life as I have been this past year. You guys can have at it.

do you have any actual details on this

I'm wondering if what you heard about was a law passed in Pennsylvania in 2019 that legalized no-excuse mail-in voting was approved overwhelming by Republicans.   




Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2020, 08:13:31 PM
What's sad is even when those pro Biden stations walk back the misinformation they intentionally put out there to stir up the base, the ship has sailed. Not ONE Trump voter who believes the election was stolen will say "Damn, I was really gullible and jumped on stories that supported my preconceived notions... man I feel stupid." They'll merely do what they are doing to Barr, the Supreme court and Mitch McConnel  the republican judges, the republican election officials and claim conspiracy, deep state and traitorous behavior. It couldn't actually be that they were wrong... hell no.. it's that everybody else is...

I must admit that I am a little confused by the first sentence in your post. It must be my senility kicking in....darn.

Possibly the most adamant Trump supporters will hang on to what they'd hoped for for as long as is humanly possible. Giving up on a dream can be arduous. In 2016, a lot of people believed Trump was their savior and that he'd right all that many thought had gone awry in the U.S. That doesn't mean they are bad or stupid people. They just bet on the wrong person and lost. Losing is really hard. Calling TDS, whether real or imposed on those of us who just don't like the man and who were willing to express it, are proof of it.

All the contention that has gone on in the world, particularly in the U.S. is definitely mirrored in this micronism known as Getbig. Yeah, it's "the Thunderdome" as Wes likes to remind us. This maybe excuses some of the hateful and vulgar insults some have made against others just because they resided on one side or the other of a political wall. Sad that after all this time we humans have failed to learn how to relate to each other in ways that are positive and constructive. We tribes have been at each other's throats since the dawn of time.

Yup, I never liked Trump....meaning long before he was elected. Unfortunately, he lived up to all my worst expectations and continues to do so even as he has devolved deeper into this incredibly sad person. I cannot help but wonder how those closest to him, his family and his cronies, feel right now. If they love him, they must be worried. If all they want is a piece of his financial wealth or fame, well then, they should be worried.  If he were my brother or friend, I'd be worried about what he'll do next. To those looking objectively at what is going on with him, it appears he's going if not already gone off the deep end.

One by one, people will jump the Trump ship. The less they think he can do for them the quicker they will seek out the nearest life raft. Will he be the last person standing or will someone, anyone stand with him while the ship sinks? With no inside information, I going to go out on a limb and say that Trump's problems are just beginning. It's looking like he's not welcome at his Florida home. Surely legal battles will ensue and if what we've seen thus far continues, he'll drag this out for as long as he can, despite the anguish and embarrassment it will most likely bring upon wife and son.

I guess there's hope for those folks who care about him as long as he still has the impetus to tweet nonsense. It's an outlet...maybe the one he most needs but that is doing him the most harm. In his words....Sad.   

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 22, 2020, 03:57:44 AM
(https://100percentfedup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/1a-740x293.jpg)



(https://100percentfedup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2A-740x812.jpg)



COMPUTERS WERE WIPED CLEAN ON NOVEMBER 4:

DePerno told us that the report shows “internet and adjudication files were wiped clean on Nov. 4th,” adding “They destroyed election results!—They destroyed election results in a violation of state law.” He told us, “They were required to keep these records for two years after the election, and they deleted them!”


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rudy-giuliani-calls-audit-dominion-machines-key-states/)

Forensic report:
https://www.scribd.com/document/488107901/Antrim-Michigan-Forensics-Report-121320-v2-REDACTED (https://www.scribd.com/document/488107901/Antrim-Michigan-Forensics-Report-121320-v2-REDACTED)

Nothings being hidden here.  Nothing at all.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on December 22, 2020, 08:05:14 AM
(https://100percentfedup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/1a-740x293.jpg)

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/15/trump-fact-check-defect-voting-machines-michigan/3902951001/

Quote
Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”

Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.

Ramsland is the guy who wrote the report you posted. There weren't intentional ballot errors. There was a configuration error caused by the REPUBLICAN county clerk that resulted in temporary data irregularities.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: basil on December 22, 2020, 08:12:02 AM
I used to come to getbig just for the expert medical and public health advice.  Now I come her for lessons in quantitative methods too.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: French on December 22, 2020, 09:38:29 AM
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Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2020, 04:27:23 PM
Are you talking mail-in voting where everyone registered receives a ballot whether they want it or not and no verification that the person the ballot is sent to is indeed that person or absentee voting where you have to go through a specific process to vote?

Yup! Everyone who is registered to vote and still living at this address is sent a ballot. Each of us fills out our own ballot, if we choose to vote. When returning the ballot, we can use the secrecy sleeve or not (it isn't required for the vote to be counted) and then put it in the supplied return envelope and sign it.

In this election I dropped mine off at the drop box in front of city hall. Sometimes I mail my ballot in. Should I neglect to sign the envelope or should my signature not match the one that's on file at the county elections office my ballot is voided. If I were curious and wanted to track my ballot, there is a system for doing that.

I guess it's possible that one of us could fill out more than one ballot, but it would require the correct signature. I suppose one of us could sign more than one ballot and risk being charged with fraud. It is almost certain that one would be invalidated because you cannot vote twice in the same election. 

Another possibility is that under certain circumstances, like if I changed my address or made a change on my registration, I could be sent another ballot. There’s only one ballot, at any given time that is valid- and the other one is inactive and can’t be voted. No one can vote twice.

Is there a possibility that something could go awry. Of course anything is possible. In Oregon, over the past three decades there have been about a dozen cases of fraud. I'd say our system works.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 22, 2020, 08:59:14 PM
I must admit that I am a little confused by the first sentence in your post. It must be my senility kicking in....darn.

Possibly the most adamant Trump supporters will hang on to what they'd hoped for for as long as is humanly possible. Giving up on a dream can be arduous. In 2016, a lot of people believed Trump was their savior and that he'd right all that many thought had gone awry in the U.S. That doesn't mean they are bad or stupid people. They just bet on the wrong person and lost. Losing is really hard. Calling TDS, whether real or imposed on those of us who just don't like the man and who were willing to express it, are proof of it.

All the contention that has gone on in the world, particularly in the U.S. is definitely mirrored in this micronism known as Getbig. Yeah, it's "the Thunderdome" as Wes likes to remind us. This maybe excuses some of the hateful and vulgar insults some have made against others just because they resided on one side or the other of a political wall. Sad that after all this time we humans have failed to learn how to relate to each other in ways that are positive and constructive. We tribes have been at each other's throats since the dawn of time.

Yup, I never liked Trump....meaning long before he was elected. Unfortunately, he lived up to all my worst expectations and continues to do so even as he has devolved deeper into this incredibly sad person. I cannot help but wonder how those closest to him, his family and his cronies, feel right now. If they love him, they must be worried. If all they want is a piece of his financial wealth or fame, well then, they should be worried.  If he were my brother or friend, I'd be worried about what he'll do next. To those looking objectively at what is going on with him, it appears he's going if not already gone off the deep end.

One by one, people will jump the Trump ship. The less they think he can do for them the quicker they will seek out the nearest life raft. Will he be the last person standing or will someone, anyone stand with him while the ship sinks? With no inside information, I going to go out on a limb and say that Trump's problems are just beginning. It's looking like he's not welcome at his Florida home. Surely legal battles will ensue and if what we've seen thus far continues, he'll drag this out for as long as he can, despite the anguish and embarrassment it will most likely bring upon wife and son.

I guess there's hope for those folks who care about him as long as he still has the impetus to tweet nonsense. It's an outlet...maybe the one he most needs but that is doing him the most harm. In his words....Sad.

No, it was all me. I fixed it. thanks


Good post by the way
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 22, 2020, 09:10:48 PM
Yup! Everyone who is registered to vote and still living at this address is sent a ballot. Each of us fills out our own ballot, if we choose to vote. When returning the ballot, we can use the secrecy sleeve or not (it isn't required for the vote to be counted) and then put it in the supplied return envelope and sign it.

In this election I dropped mine off at the drop box in front of city hall. Sometimes I mail my ballot in. Should I neglect to sign the envelope or should my signature not match the one that's on file at the county elections office my ballot is voided. If I were curious and wanted to track my ballot, there is a system for doing that.

I guess it's possible that one of us could fill out more than one ballot, but it would require the correct signature. I suppose one of us could sign more than one ballot and risk being charged with fraud. It is almost certain that one would be invalidated because you cannot vote twice in the same election. 

Another possibility is that under certain circumstances, like if I changed my address or made a change on my registration, I could be sent another ballot. There’s only one ballot, at any given time that is valid- and the other one is inactive and can’t be voted. No one can vote twice.

Is there a possibility that something could go awry. Of course anything is possible. In Oregon, over the past three decades there have been about a dozen cases of fraud. I'd say our system works.
Many swing states require you to apply for an absentee ballot. They check your signature on the application against their computer records before they even send you a ballot. If it doesn’t match you don’t even get one to fill out.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2020, 11:15:41 PM
Many swing states require you to apply for an absentee ballot. They check your signature on the application against their computer records before they even send you a ballot. If it doesn’t match you don’t even get one to fill out.

I'm not usually one to believe in giving up local (state) government control. However, when we have a national election, it only seems right the election rules should be the same in all states if they are given the latitude to reflect the differences between one state to the next. For example states with a larger population like New York and California realistically need more time to count the vote then a state like Oregon or Nebraska.

The unplanned for pandemic's effect on people'a ability to vote safely has really thrown a monkey wrench in our current systems of voting which are actually all over the place depending on where you live. What's to say this election doesn't reflect problems likely to happen in future elections. Election laws should be such that they encourage more people to vote. That only such a small percentage of the population actually votes is not a good thing. Everyone's voice should be heard. But in order for that to happen, people need to be able to step up to the plate and they need to take responsibility for doing so. People who don't bother to vote, IMO, should just shut up when they don't agree with the outcome of an election if they were given every opportunity to do so.

Obviously, I am a proponent of voting by mail. Realistically, if done right, it could eliminate almost all opportunities for errors and fraud. I'm not bragging on Oregon's voting system, but we have been using a vote by mail longer than any other state in the U.S. and therefore we've had a longer time to work through any problems connected with it. As I pointed out in an earlier post, election fraud in Oregon is so minimal the it is nearly non existent. If every state required that mail in ballots be in by a given time on election day, they could be begin to be counted on that day and the nation would have the results in a more timely manner.

In almost every situation, when folks are rushed is when they tend to make the most mistakes. Poll workers are temporary employees who are often paid minimum wage for their work at the polls or in many states something like $100 a day. Considering the level of stress in that job, they are almost volunteering their time for the good of all.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on December 23, 2020, 11:01:28 AM
Nina Golgowski·Breaking News Reporter, HuffPost
December 22, 2020, 12:31 PM·3 min read
A Pennsylvania man is facing up to 19 years in prison after prosecutors say he admitted to illegally casting a ballot in the general election for President Donald Trump as his dead mother and also registering his dead mother-in-law to vote with the intent to do the same.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering both deceased women online to vote in the Nov. 3 election using either their driver’s license or social security number, prosecutors said Monday.

“He registered both of his deceased relatives as Republicans and he has admitted to the detectives who questioned him that he did this to further the campaign of Donald Trump,” Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said at a press conference.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bartman’s ballot for his mother, who died in 2008, was for reasons unknown not caught by the election system and was successfully counted in the election. Bartman, a registered Republican, also successfully submitted a ballot in his own name, Stollsteimer said.

Though Bartman successfully registered his mother-in-law to vote, despite her dying in 2019, he never requested a ballot for her, Stollsteimer said.

During her voter registration, Stollsteimer said the system flagged her as likely being deceased. The state then sent a letter requesting her to confirm that she was indeed still alive. He said Bartman falsified this document and returned it but that he did not request an absentee ballot in her name.

Bartman’s lawyer, Samuel Stretton, told The Philadelphia Inquirer that his client is taking responsibility for his actions and is cooperating with authorities.

“In his political frustration, he chose to do something stupid,” Stretton said. “And for that he is very sorry.”

The county’s top prosecutor stressed that Bartman’s ability to cast a vote on behalf of his deceased mother is not evidence of widespread voter fraud and that they are not prosecuting the case because of who Bartman voted for.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 23, 2020, 11:55:13 AM
Nina Golgowski·Breaking News Reporter, HuffPost
December 22, 2020, 12:31 PM·3 min read
A Pennsylvania man is facing up to 19 years in prison after prosecutors say he admitted to illegally casting a ballot in the general election for President Donald Trump as his dead mother and also registering his dead mother-in-law to vote with the intent to do the same.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering both deceased women online to vote in the Nov. 3 election using either their driver’s license or social security number, prosecutors said Monday.

“He registered both of his deceased relatives as Republicans and he has admitted to the detectives who questioned him that he did this to further the campaign of Donald Trump,” Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said at a press conference.

Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bruce Bartman, 70, was arrested on Friday and charged with two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting after allegedly registering his deceased mother and mother-in-law to vote in the November election. (Photo: Delaware County District Attorney’s Office)
Bartman’s ballot for his mother, who died in 2008, was for reasons unknown not caught by the election system and was successfully counted in the election. Bartman, a registered Republican, also successfully submitted a ballot in his own name, Stollsteimer said.

Though Bartman successfully registered his mother-in-law to vote, despite her dying in 2019, he never requested a ballot for her, Stollsteimer said.

During her voter registration, Stollsteimer said the system flagged her as likely being deceased. The state then sent a letter requesting her to confirm that she was indeed still alive. He said Bartman falsified this document and returned it but that he did not request an absentee ballot in her name.

Bartman’s lawyer, Samuel Stretton, told The Philadelphia Inquirer that his client is taking responsibility for his actions and is cooperating with authorities.

“In his political frustration, he chose to do something stupid,” Stretton said. “And for that he is very sorry.”

The county’s top prosecutor stressed that Bartman’s ability to cast a vote on behalf of his deceased mother is not evidence of widespread voter fraud and that they are not prosecuting the case because of who Bartman voted for.

He chose to do something stupid is right. Good thing he didn't request a ballot. That would have been even stupider.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 23, 2020, 07:59:20 PM
Hey Coach, let's hear the latest "news" on this fraud bullshit.  No reason why this thread can't get to 50 pages of self ownage by you.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 23, 2020, 10:57:58 PM
From what I heard on the radio today the emphasis seems to have shifted away from fraudulent ballots and toward illegal changes to laws being made last minute which favored the left.

What's funny is that my housemate here told me back hmmm in June or July that it looked like mail in ballots would be a big thing because of the pandemic. This benefits the left hugely because historically Republicans are more active voters but if given the chance more people would vote if they could do it without leaving the house and the percentages would heavily favor Democrats. That is exactly what happened.

I still think Trump fixated on the mail in ballots because it was a target lawyers could sink their teeth into but ultimately covid was going to bring him down no matter what. That's not to say covid is Trump's fault or anything that's just how it is. If Democrats had been in office covid would have brought them down to.

I am also officially done with political topics. I have never been so unhappy and argumentative in all my life as I have been this past year. You guys can have at it.
The “radio” or left propaganda owned and propagation of disinformation

Your “ housemate “ is your keeper

Lefties  don’t vote because yes they are inactive not just physically if you get what I mean

This was all financial

So I give you permission to keep talking about it since it’s not political

Please just get it over with and go get in line for your shot
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 24, 2020, 01:10:40 PM
Where is Coach to tell us that "we just don't get it" and spin off another delusional excuse?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 24, 2020, 07:06:56 PM
Where is Coach to tell us that "we just don't get it" and spin off another delusional excuse?

He's taking a break to celebrate Christmas. Worry not. He'll be back defending Trump's actions soon. I'm curious to see what he'll say when Trump is escorted out of the White House in a few weeks.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 24, 2020, 07:27:43 PM
He's taking a break to celebrate Christmas. Worry not. He'll be back defending Trump's actions soon. I'm curious to see what he'll say when Trump is escorted out of the White House in a few weeks.

He will say it wasn't really Trump.  That the Dems used an imposter to make it look like Trump was kicked to the curb.  The real Trump is in the bunker calling all the shots.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2020, 12:43:54 AM
He will say it wasn't really Trump.  That the Dems used an imposter to make it look like Trump was kicked to the curb.  The real Trump is in the bunker calling all the shots.

Has this fiasco reached such a high level of absurdity?  The U.S. is already the laughing stock of most of the world. Only a few weeks more and we can start regaining our sanity and hopefully the respect we once had among other first world nations.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 25, 2020, 07:34:11 AM
Hey Coach, let's hear the latest "news" on this fraud bullshit.  No reason why this thread can't get to 50 pages of self ownage by you.

So you still don’t know what an affidavit is and you still haven’t watched any of the hearings BUT you and that backstabbing old fucker are still posting second and third hand hearsay articles from your propaganda sites...lol

I’ll be back in a few days. You commie geniuses are always good for a chuckle. Hahahahahah

Let me know when you want to start posting more “I told you so” about Biden and Co.

“You’re just a one horse pony” 😂
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 25, 2020, 11:23:53 AM
.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 26, 2020, 06:49:25 AM
So you still don’t know what an affidavit is and you still haven’t watched any of the hearings BUT you and that backstabbing old fucker are still posting second and third hand hearsay articles from your propaganda sites...lol

I’ll be back in a few days. You commie geniuses are always good for a chuckle. Hahahahahah

Let me know when you want to start posting more “I told you so” about Biden and Co.

“You’re just a one horse pony” 😂

But the affidavit..... the affidavit.....   That's your new rallying cry?    ::)

Once again a thread by Coach blows up in his face and he has nothing but excuses to give until he runs away.  Don't go yet... tell us more about Roberts screaming at the other judges in a room.   Or how Harris isn't giving up the Senate seat.   Let's hear more tales from that La La Land you live in. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on December 27, 2020, 12:58:36 PM
How a woman who has been dead 12 years was able to vote in Pennsylvania
By PAUL MUSCHICK
THE MORNING CALL |
DEC 23, 2020 AT 8:00 AM

It looks like Donald Trump was right after all. Authorities say they have uncovered evidence of Pennsylvania voter fraud — a dead person voting.

Don’t expect the president to boast about it, though. It was one of his supporters who was nabbed.

Again.

This is the third case of authorities filing voter fraud charges in Pennsylvania. All three of the accused are Republicans, in case you’ve lost track.

In announcing the latest charges on Monday, Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer stressed that this was an isolated incident.

“For all of the conspiracy theorists who may be out there watching, the case we are talking about today presents no evidence of widespread voter fraud,” he said at a news conference.

The man facing criminal charges was able to register two deceased relatives to vote, Stollsteimer said, and cast an absentee ballot for one of them in the November election, because of failures in the state’s voter registration system.

That’s more concerning than a single fraudulent vote.

Instead of chasing ghosts to further Trump’s crusade to overturn the election, that’s what the state’s Republican-controlled Legislature should be zeroing in on as it plans early next year to audit how the 2020 election went.

There are things that need to be fixed, and this is one of them.

Others include allowing counties to process mail ballots before Election Day, and clarifying whether counties are allowed to contact mail voters about incomplete ballots to give them an opportunity to correct their omissions. In November, some counties did while others didn’t.

State elections officials did not respond to my questions Tuesday about the concerns raised in the Delaware County case. But I hope they’re digging into them.

Bruce Bartman, 70, a registered Republican from Marple Township, exploited the failures of the state’s voter registration system, Stollsteimer said. He faces charges of perjury and unlawful voting.

“He in effect voted twice,” Stollsteimer said, “once for himself and once for his deceased mother ... he has admitted to the detectives who questioned him that he did this to further the campaign of Donald Trump.”

His mother died in 2008. Bartman also was accused of registering his deceased mother-in-law, who died last year, but authorities said he did not cast a vote in her name.

Stollsteimer said detectives verified that the absentee ballot he submitted in his mother’s name was counted, but they did not review it to see who the votes were for because that would have violated voter privacy. He said Bartman told detectives the ballot was for Trump.

“In his political frustration, he chose to do something stupid,” Bartman’s attorney, Samuel Stretton, told The Philadelphia Inquirer. “And for that he is very sorry.”

Charges remain pending against two other Pennsylvania Republicans in voter fraud cases.

Robert Lynn, 67, of Forty Fort, Luzerne County, is accused of applying for an absentee ballot in the name of his deceased mother, who died five years ago.

Ralph Thurman, 71, of Malvern, Chester County, is accused of voting at his polling place and then returning and voting again by impersonating his son.

In announcing the charges against Bartman on Monday, Stollsteimer said there were no political motivations in pursuing the case. He said the investigators and prosecutors are a mix of Democrats and Republicans. Stollsteimer is a Democrat.

“If he had voted for Joe Biden or he had written in Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse, we would still be prosecuting this case because this is a violation of the integrity of the American electoral process,” Stollsteimer said.

He questioned whether Pennsylvania’s voting system is susceptible to being manipulated.

Bartman registered his deceased mother and mother-in-law online. The application requires a driver’s license number or the last four digits of a Social Security number.

For his mother, he entered her driver’s license number, Stollsteimer said, and the system “did what it was supposed to do” and verified the information with PennDOT. She wasn’t flagged as being deceased, he said, and instead, her PennDOT information was loaded into the voter registration system, including her signature.

For his mother-in-law, Bartman entered the last four digits of her Social Security number, Stollsteimer said. The voting system identified her as being deceased, based on Social Security records.

The elections system followed federal protocols and sent a letter to the address on the application, seeking to verify the information that had been entered. Bartman signed the letter to indicate that the Social Security number was correct, Stollsteimer said. His response was accepted, overriding the death record in the Social Security system and allowing the application in her name to be approved.

“Why those two flaws in the system exist is beyond the scope of our investigation,” Stollsteimer said.

Well, it’s imperative that someone investigate it.

It should be impossible for a dead person to be able to register to vote. Even an isolated incidence tarnishes the reputation of the entire system. And it gives conspiracy theorists reason to continue their futile fight to overturn the election.   RESULT TRUMP LOSES 3 MORE VOTES.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 27, 2020, 01:19:22 PM
I read about this in the paper. It's crazy what some people try to get away with.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 27, 2020, 03:02:52 PM
HAHAHAHAHA another case of voter fraud committed by a REPUBLICAN.   Why don't the Trumpy supporters address this?   HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 27, 2020, 03:12:06 PM
HAHAHAHAHA another case of voter fraud committed by a REPUBLICAN.   Why don't the Trumpy supporters address this?   HAHAHAHAHA
Sure, when you address the tens of thousands of fraudulent votes for Uncle Joe.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 27, 2020, 03:14:03 PM
Sure, when you address the tens of thousands of fraudulent votes for Uncle Joe.

Show me proof of them then.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 27, 2020, 05:52:35 PM
Sure, when you address the tens of thousands of fraudulent votes for Uncle Joe.
Barr has said there are no widespread schemes... Bill fucking Barr
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 27, 2020, 06:05:42 PM
Barr has said there are no widespread schemes... Bill fucking Barr

Barr wised up. His modus operandii is to be a "kiss up" to anyone he believes can be of benefit to him. When that person becomes clearly of no use, Barr moves on. I dislike him as much as I dislike Trump, but for different reasons. Whether there were widespread schemes or not is really irrelevant to Barr. However, I do agree that it is nearly impossible for enough people to conspire to get someone fraudulently elected President in the U.S. under current laws.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 27, 2020, 06:08:59 PM
Barr has said there are no widespread schemes... Bill fucking Barr

So did Republican governors, the SC, etc....   

If it was so rampant there should easily be some proof to link to.  But instead all we get is delusional rants, conspiracy theories and childish opinions. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 27, 2020, 06:24:02 PM
So did Republican governors, the SC, etc....   

If it was so rampant there should easily be some proof to link to.  But instead all we get is delusional rants, conspiracy theories and childish opinions.

Hopefully, those will fade once Trump is permanently ensconced elsewhere than the White House. Can't say Mar-a-Largo anymore since he's apparently a persona non grata among the Miami elite. I doubt New York City society wants him there either. He's become homeless. Who would have guessed?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 28, 2020, 06:56:50 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqTDZf8XMAEFnkN?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 28, 2020, 07:27:22 AM
Stop the insanity?  LOL how can you when his little supporters are still getting back in line for more Kool Aid?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 28, 2020, 07:28:22 AM
Love the tabloids

New York boast

Yahoo confirmed yet ?

TMZ

Cnn

Msndnc?

Page 33 of thread

Yahoo ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 28, 2020, 09:06:35 AM
Love the tabloids

New York boast

Yahoo confirmed yet ?

TMZ

Cnn

Msndnc?

Page 33 of thread

Yahoo ?
Don't forget Democratic Underground and Michael Moore dot com.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on December 28, 2020, 09:46:54 AM
Love the tabloids

New York boast

Yahoo confirmed yet ?

TMZ

Cnn

Msndnc?

Page 33 of thread

Yahoo ?

Don't forget Democratic Underground and Michael Moore dot com.

The obvious difference between the New York Post and the others is that the NY Post is a Murdoch-owned rag that has been one of Trump's longest, friendliest and strongest allies, and enthusiasticaly backed him in November.

So here you have Trump's favorite paper demanding that he stop his "dark charade" of spreading false claims of voting fraud and to accept Biden's victory.

"Sidney Powell is a crazy person.  Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason."
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 28, 2020, 10:29:29 AM
The obvious difference between the New York Post and the others is that the NY Post is a Murdoch-owned rag that has been one of Trump's longest, friendliest and strongest allies, and enthusiasticaly backed him in November.

So here you have Trump's favorite paper demanding that he stop his "dark charade" of spreading false claims of voting fraud and to accept Biden's victory.

"Sidney Powell is a crazy person.  Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason."

The rats turn on their own.....   
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 28, 2020, 01:27:41 PM
Correct

Expecting loyalty from them ?

Open your eyes

Your hatred clouds your eyes sir
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 28, 2020, 06:28:17 PM
Where are you Coach is back? Isn't about time you came up with some new slant on election Fraud.  Careful Coach, Trump's a vengeful dude and he only invites people who support him 24/7 to his parties. Play your cards right and you might score a trip to Miami with a 3 night stay at Mar-a-Largo. How cool would that be?

Just kidding you. You don't care about Mar-a-Largo. Although, this is the best time of year to head to Florida. My cousin tells me it is sunny and in the high 70's to low 80's right now.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 28, 2020, 07:00:23 PM
Show me proof of them then.



Sure, when you address the tens of thousands of fraudulent votes for Uncle Joe.

^^^^^^

When are you going to post that proof so we know you're not just another fucking idiot Trumptard who parrots every lie out of THE TRAITOR'S lying lie hole?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 28, 2020, 09:11:45 PM
Why are you so miserable

I thought you “ won “
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 29, 2020, 09:10:53 AM


^^^^^^

When are you going to post that proof so we know you're not just another fucking idiot Trumptard who parrots every lie out of THE TRAITOR'S lying lie hole?
It has been posted all over Getbig and all over the net, you just don't accept it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 29, 2020, 12:37:17 PM
It has been posted all over Getbig and all over the net, you just don't accept it.

No it hasn't.  You mean you are actually suggesting us to believe something that is unproven and factually lacking?  Who do you think we are?  Trumptards?  You can't expect someone to just blindly accept an unproven negative.

The only thing we've seen posted on GB and all over the net are conspiracy theories, delusional lies, and whining posted... but no PROOF.

PROOF... you know, like this :

VOTER FRAUD CONFIRMED!!!

-----

Officials finally found a case of a dead person voting, accusing a Republican of pretending to be his dead mom to vote for Trump.

Bruce Bartman has been charged with unlawful voting and perjury over allegations that he pretended to be his dead mother to cast a ballot in the November election for President Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.

Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer announced the charges in a press release Monday. Bartman was arraigned Friday and released on $100,000 bail, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. If convicted on all charges, the 70-year-old Bartman could spend up to 19 years in prison.

"This is the only known case of a 'dead person' voting in our county, conspiracy theories notwithstanding," Stollsteimer said in a statement. "Further, the prompt prosecution of this case shows that law enforcement will continue to uphold our election laws whenever presented with actual evidence of fraud and that we will continue to investigate every allegation that that comes our way."

You know, something that sort of contains a name... charges... location... specific instance.... legal action.....  etc...  like anything that can be factually proven.

Nothing posted about this so called Dem voter fraud has been proven.  NOTHING.  Whining, speculation, CTs, accusations by Rudy, Trump, Sydney, Melissa Carone, etc...  do not constitute proof.   

So as it stands, the only ones who committed voter fraud are Republicans.  No surprise seeing how their idiot leader openly told them to go vote twice and their dumbasses did it.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on December 29, 2020, 01:00:59 PM
It has been posted all over Getbig and all over the net, you just don't accept it.

How about posting the actual proof and not the debunked lies that you idiots keep repeating over and over that has got your side laughed out of court..what is it like 55 times now.

Let's see it
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: jwb on December 29, 2020, 05:37:43 PM
https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/Cobb%20County%20ABM%20Audit%20Report%2020201229.pdf
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on December 29, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
Actual proof !!!

Yahoo

Cnn

NBC

Proof !!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 30, 2020, 07:48:47 AM
HAHAHAHA Trumpy still grasping at straws and trying to defeat reality.

---

President Trump is back with another far-fetched conspiracy theory about Georgia's election results.

As certified election results and multiple recounts proved, President-elect Joe Biden won the typically red state in the 2020 election. But that hasn't stopped Trump from launching lawsuits and lies aimed at invalidating the election results there, including early Wednesday morning, when he tweeted a provably false claim about the state's Republican secretary of state.

Brad Raffensperger, who runs the state's elections, has faced threats and wild conspiracy theories after refusing to listen to Trump and his allies' attempts to overturn the election results. The far-right network NewsMax tried to draw up another one Tuesday night, this time claiming Raffensperger's brother worked for the Chinese technology company Huawei. Trump repeated the claim in a Wednesday tweet, implying the alleged relation compromised the secretary of state's election integrity.

Brad Raffensperger doesn't even have a brother.

---
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Arthur Nus on December 30, 2020, 08:02:36 AM

live now

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2020, 01:52:58 PM
HAHAHAHA Trumpy still grasping at straws and trying to defeat reality.

---

President Trump is back with another far-fetched conspiracy theory about Georgia's election results.

As certified election results and multiple recounts proved, President-elect Joe Biden won the typically red state in the 2020 election. But that hasn't stopped Trump from launching lawsuits and lies aimed at invalidating the election results there, including early Wednesday morning, when he tweeted a provably false claim about the state's Republican secretary of state.

Brad Raffensperger, who runs the state's elections, has faced threats and wild conspiracy theories after refusing to listen to Trump and his allies' attempts to overturn the election results. The far-right network NewsMax tried to draw up another one Tuesday night, this time claiming Raffensperger's brother worked for the Chinese technology company Huawei. Trump repeated the claim in a Wednesday tweet, implying the alleged relation compromised the secretary of state's election integrity.

Brad Raffensperger doesn't even have a brother.

---

This is hilarious.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on December 30, 2020, 02:03:22 PM
UKRAINE RELEASES BOMBSHELL INFORMATION ON BIDEN TODAY!


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on December 30, 2020, 02:31:28 PM
UKRAINE RELEASES BOMBSHELL INFORMATION ON BIDEN TODAY!




Wasn't that from May?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 31, 2020, 11:23:05 PM
UKRAINE RELEASES BOMBSHELL INFORMATION ON BIDEN TODAY!




No... no they didn't. I'm truly sorry. but Joe Biden will be our 46th president.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 01, 2021, 07:51:12 AM
20 more days until the turd hits the curb.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on January 01, 2021, 07:32:11 PM
Chalk up another one today for Trump and his allies in post-election litigation.

Joe DiMaggio's 56 gamer was surpassed awhile ago.
Now Babe Ruth's 60 bombs has been tied.
Is Roger Maris next?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqsMhNiVoAYVTJJ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 01, 2021, 08:54:24 PM
Chalk up another one today for Trump and his allies in post-election litigation.

Joe DiMaggio's 56 gamer was surpassed awhile ago.
Now Babe Ruth's 60 bombs has been tied.
Is Roger Maris next?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqsMhNiVoAYVTJJ?format=jpg&name=900x900)

The expression on Trump's face in this picture is hilarious.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 02, 2021, 06:05:09 AM
Sure are a lot of Trumpturds avoiding this thread now. 

Don't worry though.... next big conspiracy theory or coup attempt is coming down the pipeline to give them hope and we will hear their yammering then......
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on January 02, 2021, 08:14:39 AM
But you won

Why so mad ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 02, 2021, 10:38:38 AM
But you won

Why so mad ?

No we didn't win..... just ask Coach.  He will be along with some new twist to this saga any minute now. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on January 02, 2021, 11:53:40 AM
But you won

Why so mad ?

TDS
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 02, 2021, 11:59:25 AM
This is getting pathetic.  The Repubs after failing to win court cases against everyone else, can't even sue Pence.

What next? 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 02, 2021, 12:08:36 PM
But you won

Why so mad ?
TDS will infect these idiots for years.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 02, 2021, 12:17:56 PM
TDS will infect these idiots for years.

Oh look, a Trumpturd appears.  Give us a few tears... for old times sake.  Like you did 8 years over Obama and still do today.  Or at least give us a delusional excuse that your little leader would be proud of.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 02, 2021, 12:21:32 PM
Oh look, a Trumpturd appears.  Give us a few tears... for old times sake.  Like you did 8 years over Obama and still do today.  Or at least give us a delusional excuse that your little leader would be proud of.
Suck a fat dick, like you have for years and still do today. I have no leader, especially not some dementia ridden, corrupt old man or some knee scraped whore. Did she share Willie Browns dick with you?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 02, 2021, 12:22:35 PM
Suck a fat dick, like you have for years and still do today. I have no leader, especially not some dementia ridden, corrupt old man or some knee scraped whore. Did she share Willie Browns dick with you?

Ouch.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 02, 2021, 01:06:04 PM
Suck a fat dick, like you have for years and still do today. I have no leader, especially not some dementia ridden, corrupt old man or some knee scraped whore. Did she share Willie Browns dick with you?

When left with nothing to say, Repubs always resort to homo or pedo talk.  You didn't seem to complain about the knee scraped whore as First Lady.  Yeah, you got a leader.  A childish little crybaby that can't stop lying or hiding behind his cowardly Twitter attacks.  No surprise you are upset he's getting kicked out in 18 days. 

One good thing about the "dementia ridden old man" is that he will keep the pre existing condition clause in health insurance.  So you can get those cankles fixed. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 02, 2021, 02:05:47 PM
When left with nothing to say, Repubs always resort to homo or pedo talk.  You didn't seem to complain about the knee scraped whore as First Lady.  Yeah, you got a leader.  A childish little crybaby that can't stop lying or hiding behind his cowardly Twitter attacks.  No surprise you are upset he's getting kicked out in 18 days. 

One good thing about the "dementia ridden old man" is that he will keep the pre existing condition clause in health insurance.  So you can get those cankles fixed.
Of all your stupid posts, this might be the stupidest. You are indeed the pinnacle of retardedness, a true democrat.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 02, 2021, 02:34:00 PM
When left with nothing to say, Repubs always resort to homo or pedo talk.  You didn't seem to complain about the knee scraped whore as First Lady.  Yeah, you got a leader.  A childish little crybaby that can't stop lying or hiding behind his cowardly Twitter attacks.  No surprise you are upset he's getting kicked out in 18 days. 

One good thing about the "dementia ridden old man" is that he will keep the pre existing condition clause in health insurance.  So you can get those cankles fixed.

Did Trump remove or talk about removing the pre existing condition clause from insurance?

This seems like an odd idea for him to get behind, I wonder where the money trail is on this?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 02, 2021, 03:57:50 PM
Did Trump remove or talk about removing the pre existing condition clause from insurance?

This seems like an odd idea for him to get behind, I wonder where the money trail is on this?

No, he has always said he would not get rid of this.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 02, 2021, 04:37:21 PM
No, he has always said he would not get rid of this.

You are correct. Trump has repeatedly said he would protect the preexisting conditions clause. However saying something is the same as doing it.

His policies to date have slightly weakened the Obamacare framework, providing some escape hatches where healthier customers can buy unregulated, cheaper insurance. None of the president’s health policies offered new consumer protections for the sick seeking health insurance.

Trump has repeatedly promised to release a comprehensive health plan, then declined to do so. If protecting pre-existing conditions is a priority, it’s not clear why Trump's strategy is still a secret.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Tom on January 02, 2021, 04:58:29 PM
is that why for the past year, trump and in particular lawyers for trump have had a lawsuit against the affordable care act and it's pre-existing conditions?...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on January 02, 2021, 05:46:12 PM
You are correct. Trump has repeatedly said he would protect the preexisting conditions clause. However saying something is the same as doing it.

His policies to date have slightly weakened the Obamacare framework, providing some escape hatches where healthier customers can buy unregulated, cheaper insurance. None of the president’s health policies offered new consumer protections for the sick seeking health insurance.

Trump has repeatedly promised to release a comprehensive health plan, then declined to do so. If protecting pre-existing conditions is a priority, it’s not clear why Trump's strategy is still a secret.

It's PERFECTLY CLEAR

He's a FUCKING LIAR

He has no health care plan and his administration has been in court trying to get rid of the protections for pre-existing conditions while he claims in public just the opposite

Again, HE IS A FUCKING LIAR

He has zero interest in actually governing.  He's hollowed out the government and only cared about filling jobs with lackeys who could help in grift.

That the same exact reason why he promised to have 20 million vaccines administered by the end of 2020 and instead we have 2k

He never had a plan and doesn't give a rats ass

All he has to do is lie and his idiot followers eat it up as the fucking gospel

Same goes for all his attempts to destroy our democracy after he lost the election IN A LANDSLIDE

You can stop scratching your head and trying to figure out they big mystery

All he cares about is himself...end of story
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 02, 2021, 05:49:10 PM
It's PERFECTLY CLEAR

He's a FUCKING LIAR

He has no health care plan and his administration has been in court trying to get rid of the protections for pre-existing conditions while he claims in public just the opposite

Again, HE IS A FUCKING LIAR

He has zero interest in actually governing.  He's hollowed out the government and only cared about filling jobs with lackeys who could help in grift.

That the same exact reason why he promised to have 20 million vaccines administered by the end of 2020 and instead we have 2k

He never had a plan and doesn't give a rats ass

All he has to do is lie and his idiot followers eat it up as the fucking gospel

Same goes for all his attempts to destroy our democracy after he lost the election IN A LANDSLIDE

You can stop scratching your head and trying to figure out they big mystery

All he cares about is himself...end of story
Geez dude, we get it, he banged your mom and never called her again, it's old news, relax.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on January 02, 2021, 05:53:10 PM
Geez dude, we get it, he banged your mom and never called her again, it's old news, relax.

Perhaps you're thinking about your own mother or maybe even your father (wouldn't be surprised to find out your father was queer given your posts on this board)

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 02, 2021, 06:16:44 PM
It's PERFECTLY CLEAR

He's a FUCKING LIAR

He has no health care plan and his administration has been in court trying to get rid of the protections for pre-existing conditions while he claims in public just the opposite

Again, HE IS A FUCKING LIAR

He has zero interest in actually governing.  He's hollowed out the government and only cared about filling jobs with lackeys who could help in grift.

That the same exact reason why he promised to have 20 million vaccines administered by the end of 2020 and instead we have 2k

He never had a plan and doesn't give a rats ass

All he has to do is lie and his idiot followers eat it up as the fucking gospel

Same goes for all his attempts to destroy our democracy after he lost the election IN A LANDSLIDE

You can stop scratching your head and trying to figure out they big mystery

All he cares about is himself...end of story

Trump is immature and an egomaniac everyone knows this. He’s no different than any other politician in this manner. Unless you really think Biden has spent his whole life in politics because he cares about you and me.

Trump didn’t remove the pre existing conditions from insurance providers, IF he was being motivated to do so for whatever reasons you can rest easy knowing EVERY President will face the same temptation.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 02, 2021, 06:28:07 PM
Of all your stupid posts, this might be the stupidest. You are indeed the pinnacle of retardedness, a true democrat.

Being called stupid or retarded by a Trump supporter is kind of meaningless. 

Especially by a Trump supporter with the IQ lower than the love child of Sydney and Lin. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 02, 2021, 07:11:09 PM
Trump is immature and an egomaniac everyone knows this. He’s no different than any other politician in this manner. Unless you really think Biden has spent his whole life in politics because he cares about you and me.

Trump didn’t remove the pre existing conditions from insurance providers, IF he was being motivated to do so for whatever reasons you can rest easy knowing EVERY President will face the same temptation.

Initially, many people become politicians because they do care about people and they want to make things better for them. You have to give these folks some credit. It is a thankless job. At least half of the population will despise you no matter what you do. Name any President that was loved by all. Supposedly, the most admired President of all of them is Abraham Lincoln. There was at least one person who disagreed, John Wilkes Booth.

Seems to me the longer someone is in politics, the more they pander to whoever will keep them in office. So, if it is a thankless job, why would anyone want to get re-elected? What really motivates career politicians? Well, I think the answer is not very simple. You might as well as the broader question of what motivates people to do anything at all.

The answer is that people are motivated by different things. Not every politician goes into politics or stays in politics for the same reasons. Unless you know Biden intimately, you can only guess at why he's dedicated his life to politics. Although his father was once wealthy, he ended up being a car salesmen. It is safe to say Biden Jr. came from a fairly middle class family and has managed to amass enough wealth to lead a comfortable life. One in which he surely doesn't need a President's salary to get by. Without going into all the details of his financial background, it is safe to say that he wasn't handed the silver spoon. What he has today has taken him a lifetime to achieve.

Trump's history. There's not much point in trying to figure out what motivated him to run for public office. One thing is certain, he didn't work his way up through the ranks. As best as I know Trump has only held one elected public position and that is the one he'll soon be vacating. Maybe that was what drew people to vote for him. But seriously, who would hire someone with absolutely no relevant experience to run a major world renown corporation? The answer should be, no one in their right mind.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on January 02, 2021, 07:25:18 PM
Trump is immature and an egomaniac everyone knows this. He’s no different than any other politician in this manner. Unless you really think Biden has spent his whole life in politics because he cares about you and me.

Trump didn’t remove the pre existing conditions from insurance providers, IF he was being motivated to do so for whatever reasons you can rest easy knowing EVERY President will face the same temptation.

Trump is a TRAITOR and a grifter and a criminal (he's been using OUR office POTUS to directly enrich himself)

Let me know when Biden has done that

And yes, in spite of THE TRAITORS public lies his administration has been in court repeatedly trying to eliminate protection for pre-existing conditions

Stop listening to what he says and look at what he is actually doing

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/upshot/pre-existing-conditions.html
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 02, 2021, 08:07:16 PM
Trump is a TRAITOR and a grifter and a criminal (he's been using OUR office POTUS to directly enrich himself)

Let me know when Biden has done that

And yes, in spite of THE TRAITORS public lies his administration has been in court repeatedly trying to eliminate protection for pre-existing conditions

Stop listening to what he says and look at what he is actually doing

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/upshot/pre-existing-conditions.html

Straw every President of the modern era has used the office to enrich themselves. Or was Michelle Obama getting multi million dollar speaking engagements prior to her HUSBAND being elected to office?

As far as Trump being a traitor every party brings up the oppositions leader as being a traitor. Dems have said Regan, both Bush’s and now Trump are traitors. Republicans say the same about Clinton, Obama and now Biden. Tomato, tomatoe.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 02, 2021, 08:33:24 PM
It's PERFECTLY CLEAR

He's a FUCKING LIAR

He has no health care plan and his administration has been in court trying to get rid of the protections for pre-existing conditions while he claims in public just the opposite

Again, HE IS A FUCKING LIAR

He has zero interest in actually governing.  He's hollowed out the government and only cared about filling jobs with lackeys who could help in grift.

That the same exact reason why he promised to have 20 million vaccines administered by the end of 2020 and instead we have 2k

He never had a plan and doesn't give a rats ass

All he has to do is lie and his idiot followers eat it up as the fucking gospel

Same goes for all his attempts to destroy our democracy after he lost the election IN A LANDSLIDE

You can stop scratching your head and trying to figure out they big mystery

All he cares about is himself...end of story

I fact checked this post for Coach (he's incapable of doing that based on his many threads). It's legit
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 02, 2021, 09:00:15 PM
Straw every President of the modern era has used the office to enrich themselves. Or was Michelle Obama getting multi million dollar speaking engagements prior to her HUSBAND being elected to office?

As far as Trump being a traitor every party brings up the oppositions leader as being a traitor. Dems have said Regan, both Bush’s and now Trump are traitors. Republicans say the same about Clinton, Obama and now Biden. Tomato, tomatoe.

Attempting to rationalize with the irrational is a fruitless endeavor.

He's incapable of adult conversation.

Don't bother.

He'll probably respond to this, but, as usual, I will see it and not read it.

He still thinks I do though.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 02, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
I fact checked this post for Coach (he's incapable of doing that based on his many threads). It's legit
Based on your career, it's obvious you have a poor understanding of facts and I feel bad for anyone that you falsely had imprisoned due to your shitty work ethic.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 03, 2021, 05:18:20 AM
Enough with the Biden “landslide” lies. 😂

Joe Biden’s rallies told the story. On an average day, more people would show up to typical liquor store, than a Biden Presidential rally.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 07:32:31 AM
Based on your career, it's obvious you have a poor understanding of facts and I feel bad for anyone that you falsely had imprisoned due to your shitty work ethic.

Based on your postings, you would not know what a fact was even if it slapped your mama right in front of you.

You and Coach are the two biggest delusional Trumpturds on the board. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 07:34:37 AM
Enough with the Biden “landslide” lies. 😂

Joe Biden’s rallies told the story. On an average day, more people would show up to typical liquor store, than a Biden Presidential rally.

I was unaware that people voted at rallies?  Oh, they don't.  So what does the attendance there mean?  That they were more concerned with social distancing than Trumpturds are?

If Trumpy had so many more at his rallies, then by that logic, he should have had so many  more votes.  But he didn't.  So enough with the rally size as being an indicator of anything more than stupidity on the Trumpturds part and superspread events.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on January 03, 2021, 07:55:12 AM
I fact checked this post for Coach (he's incapable of doing that based on his many threads). It's legit

I fact checked your fact check

Cnn yahoo all confirmed
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 03, 2021, 08:45:18 AM
Based on your postings, you would not know what a fact was even if it slapped your mama right in front of you.

You and Coach are the two biggest delusional Trumpturds on the board.
Awww how cute of you to white knight Autistic007. :D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 08:47:40 AM
Awww how cute of you to white knight Autistic007. :D

Awww... how cute of you to think he needed it.   What's the matter?  He bust you before? 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 03, 2021, 08:50:18 AM
Awww... how cute of you to think he needed it.   What's the matter?  He bust you before?
If he did, it probably would have been based on fraud, just like how your hero stole the election.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dokey111 on January 03, 2021, 08:54:50 AM
fwiw my wife is getting nervous lol....
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 09:03:52 AM
If he did, it probably would have been based on fraud, just like how your hero stole the election.

You got any evidence of this "fraud"?   HAHHAHAAHA because everyone else from the governors, the courts, the recounts, the EC, and the SC all say that isn't the case.  But yet, you can prove it.  Well you and Coach. Imagine that.  I guess the lovechild of Lin and Sydney was actually twins. 

If he did bust you, it was most likely cause you couldn't run away fast enough.  Perhaps if you had invested in some shitty ink of flames on your forearms like the muscle cars of old, you could have run faster. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 03, 2021, 10:01:10 AM
You got any evidence of this "fraud"?   HAHHAHAAHA because everyone else from the governors, the courts, the recounts, the EC, and the SC all say that isn't the case.  But yet, you can prove it.  Well you and Coach. Imagine that.  I guess the lovechild of Lin and Sydney was actually twins. 

If he did bust you, it was most likely cause you couldn't run away fast enough.  Perhaps if you had invested in some shitty ink of flames on your forearms like the muscle cars of old, you could have run faster.
This seems to be a running issue with democrats, too stupid to understand the fraud and corruption their own media showed them before burying it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 10:09:41 AM
Please give us a link to this fraud.

Every time we ask, all we get is conspiracy theories, wacky notions, and delusional hopes.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on January 03, 2021, 10:17:30 AM
Yahoo
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 03, 2021, 11:11:21 AM
Enough with the Biden “landslide” lies. 😂

Joe Biden’s rallies told the story. On an average day, more people would show up to typical liquor store, than a Biden Presidential rally.

is it fair to penalize his supporters because they were too smart to attend the rare rally Biden held due to this pandemic? The rallies he held mainly had people in their cars for social distancing.. I personally have never attended a rally though I vote. I'll bet I'm not alone. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 11:58:40 AM
is it fair to penalize his supporters because they were too smart to attend the rare rally Biden held due to this pandemic? The rallies he held mainly had people in their cars for social distancing.. I personally have never attended a rally though I vote. I'll bet I'm not alone.

Rallies don't vote.  People do.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 03, 2021, 12:42:53 PM
Please give us a link to this fraud.

Every time we ask, all we get is conspiracy theories, wacky notions, and delusional hopes.
You might have to put some effort into this now, so much has been buried by the democrat controlled media, but it's still out there.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 12:52:20 PM
You might have to put some effort into this now, so much has been buried by the democrat controlled media, but it's still out there.

Translation : You can't prove it but you are still going to whine about it.

If the leftist media covered it up, surely the right wing media would still have it.  FAUX?  Newsmax?  Enquirer?  HAHAHAHAA

Or rather, YOU will have to put some effort into it.  Because I'm not the one using it as an excuse like your crybaby ass.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 03, 2021, 12:55:10 PM
Translation : You can't prove it but you are still going to whine about it.

If the leftist media covered it up, surely the right wing media would still have it.  FAUX?  Newsmax?  Enquirer?  HAHAHAHAA

Or rather, YOU will have to put some effort into it.  Because I'm not the one using it as an excuse like your crybaby ass.
Typical lazy democrat, always looking for a hand out, too lazy and inept to figure it out for yourself by looking at the available information. ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 01:02:26 PM
Typical braindead Trumpturd.  Can't live in reality and resorts to "alternative facts".  So stupid he can't even back up or prove anything he says, instead wants the opposition to prove a negative for him.

You have no proof.  All you have are tears.  Like a bitch.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 03, 2021, 01:42:33 PM
Typical braindead Trumpturd.  Can't live in reality and resorts to "alternative facts".  So stupid he can't even back up or prove anything he says, instead wants the opposition to prove a negative for him.

You have no proof.  All you have are tears.  Like a bitch.
For a pedophile supporter, you sure seem upset. Aren't you happy your pervert and his whore sidekick won? :D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 03, 2021, 06:17:08 PM
For a pedophile supporter, you sure seem upset. Aren't you happy your pervert and his whore sidekick won? :D

As already addressed :

When left with nothing to say, Repubs always resort to homo or pedo talk. You didn't seem to complain about the knee scraped whore as First Lady.  Yeah, you got a leader.  A childish little crybaby that can't stop lying or hiding behind his cowardly Twitter attacks.  No surprise you are upset he's getting kicked out in 18 days. 

One good thing about the "dementia ridden old man" is that he will keep the pre existing condition clause in health insurance.  So you can get those cankles fixed.

So... tell us more about that "proof" you can't seem to find.   Come on little Trumpturd... show some substance to your claims.   ::)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 03, 2021, 06:33:48 PM
As already addressed :

So... tell us more about that "proof" you can't seem to find.   Come on little Trumpturd... show some substance to your claims.   ::)

You can be sure, the worst is yet to come, specially on Getbig. With some unfortunate folks, the more their arguments are disproved, the more irrelevant, ridiculous and slanderous their insults become. 

When you were wrong about something, just own it. Nobody gets it right 100% of the time.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 04, 2021, 03:12:17 AM
is it fair to penalize his supporters because they were too smart to attend the rare rally Biden held due to this pandemic? The rallies he held mainly had people in their cars for social distancing.. I personally have never attended a rally though I vote. I'll bet I'm not alone.

In reality, Biden is boring and he doesn’t have much energy. Nor is Biden a great speaker. Pandemic or not, people are not drawn to that type of personality.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 04, 2021, 03:22:53 AM
Typical braindead Trumpturd.  Can't live in reality and resorts to "alternative facts".  So stupid he can't even back up or prove anything he says, instead wants the opposition to prove a negative for him.

You have no proof.  All you have are tears.  Like a bitch.

Biden “winning the 2020 election” legitimately = Epstein actually “committing suicide in prison”


And we all know that Epstein didn’t commit suicide 😉


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 04, 2021, 04:29:27 AM
From last March...   Dominion Voting Machines have a history of getting destroyed by fires 🔥


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-51800316
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: bigbychoices on January 04, 2021, 05:59:03 AM
Like they say "you cant fix stupid".  and omg the democrats on here are so stupid or just wanting to argue. not sure which. They scream 'show us proof".   smh.  Do they even watch anything other than fake news cnn etc?  Lets just ignore all the other types of proof such as flipping votes and peoples testimonies.  Now lets just focus on what video has showed us. ( people say " if theres no pic it didnt happen".   Look at the suitcases of ballots in georgia being hidden and the counted when they made poll watchers leave ( who were rounded up and corralled 100 feet away( illegal).  Now lets watch other videos of dems blocking the windows in michigan so people cant watch them ( illegal) now letc watch video of police not letting republican legislatures into the capital building to vote for the electors.   These are just some things caught on video ( not to mention the big guy himself bejing biden admitting they have the best voter fraud organization ever put together)  so open your eyes idiots. quit being dicks argueing about how there isnt any proof.  watch real news like oan and newsmax NOT MAINSTREAM MEDIA fake crap.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on January 04, 2021, 06:48:15 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 04, 2021, 08:03:18 AM
Biden “winning the 2020 election” legitimately = Epstein actually “committing suicide in prison”


And we all know that Epstein didn’t commit suicide 😉

I'm sure there would be proof that Biden lost the election.  If he did.  But seeing how there is a consistent lack of proof by the naysayers on here, it's obvious that not only did he win the election, but he won free space in their heads.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 04, 2021, 08:05:39 AM
You can be sure, the worst is yet to come, specially on Getbig. With some unfortunate folks, the more their arguments are disproved, the more irrelevant, ridiculous and slanderous their insults become. 

When you were wrong about something, just own it. Nobody gets it right 100% of the time.

LOL.  It's like shooting fish in a barrel predicting how they behave.  When they can't prove what they say, they want you to do the research and prove it for them.  Then when that doesn't work, they simply resort to the usual fag/homo/pedo rants.   ::)  Bunch of weak ass little bitches.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on January 04, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
     
                       I heard a rumor that trump is going to take over south America and become their presdente for life. proud boys aka the gravy train militia are organizing.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 04, 2021, 09:54:02 AM
In reality, Biden is boring and he doesn’t have much energy. Nor is Biden a great speaker. Pandemic or not, people are not drawn to that type of personality.

You mean that you are not drawn to that type of personality. You can't speak for the rest of us.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 04, 2021, 10:00:13 AM
HAHAHAHA rampant voter fraud but zero proof.

Oh wait... there is proof of voter fraud.  By REPUBLICANS.  Trump telling people to vote more than once, the guy voting for his dead grandmother, Trumpy wanting GA to find more votes for him...

See how easy that was to prove voter fraud?  Try it out yourself next time.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 04, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
In reality, Biden is boring and he doesn’t have much energy. Nor is Biden a great speaker. Pandemic or not, people are not drawn to that type of personality.

Apparently they are.  He won the election with the largest vote ever.

I would rather have someone boring and low energy that a compulsive liar who can't stop whining all the time.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on January 04, 2021, 01:49:25 PM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 04, 2021, 03:43:14 PM
Gabriel just shredded Trump on tv over his bullshit and lies.  What a fuckwit he is.  LOL
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 04, 2021, 04:00:04 PM
Losersomemore going on a huge meltdown down. Totally TDS immersion. Someone call its shrink!!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 04, 2021, 04:10:27 PM
Losersomemore going on a huge meltdown down. Totally TDS immersion. Someone call its shrink!!

Drunk posting? 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on January 04, 2021, 05:10:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhEJY_OWsAA-EPS?format=jpg&name=900x900)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq6V1hPUcAAisyh?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 04, 2021, 05:28:58 PM
Drunk posting?
He comes across like a day drinker.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 04, 2021, 07:11:57 PM
Losersomemore going on a huge meltdown down. Totally TDS immersion. Someone call its shrink!!

Poor baby.  Still no idea how you are going to cope with reality huh?  Try getting some more shitty ink.  Maybe something original... like:

 Trump 2020 LANDSLIDE Believer.

You can even have the letters arranged around a Kotex just to give it a personal meaning.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on January 05, 2021, 07:25:39 AM
It’s not going to be good for the traitors

Headed to DC
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on January 05, 2021, 07:32:06 AM
It’s not going to be good for the traitors

Headed to DC

my friend is going as well.. said its going to be epic
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 05, 2021, 08:20:05 AM
It’s not going to be good for the traitors

Headed to DC

Take lots of pictures to share here.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: TheGrinch on January 05, 2021, 08:43:35 AM
Take lots of pictures to share here.

I'm not going...

its useless everything is useless when the game is rigged..



Liberals forever!! Kill Whitey!!

PEDO for POTUS 2021!!

Then its Harris/Pelosi 2021!!!


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 05, 2021, 12:58:53 PM
I'm not going...

its useless everything is useless when the game is rigged..



Liberals forever!! Kill Whitey!!

PEDO for POTUS 2021!!

Then its Harris/Pelosi 2021!!!

I was talking about epic.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2021, 01:13:47 PM
I was talking about epic.

Epic is planning a flyover in his private jet.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on January 05, 2021, 01:16:54 PM
The only fraud we've found in this election is from THE TRAITOR who lost and is now trying steal an election

I'm looking foward to seeing this loser dragged out of the White House in a few weeks
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2021, 01:32:38 PM
The only fraud we've found in this election is from THE TRAITOR who lost and is now trying steal an election

I'm looking foward to seeing this loser dragged out of the White House in a few weeks

I'm looking forward to this being over and the media stopping supporting Trump's constant need for attention. Of course, he will carry on tweeting excessively, but that's easier to ignore.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: tom joad on January 05, 2021, 03:10:47 PM
In post-election litigation, Trump and his allies are now ...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq_W46jVEAAef0c?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 05, 2021, 03:50:34 PM
Trumptards gonna tard...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on January 05, 2021, 04:39:28 PM
Jason Miller on Congress objecting to the Electoral College tomorrow: "There is going to be a very detailed, very methodical laying out of the facts of what we saw in this election."



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on January 05, 2021, 05:06:57 PM
Jason Miller on Congress objecting to the Electoral College tomorrow: "There is going to be a very detailed, very methodical laying out of the facts of what we saw in this election."

Weird that they didn't bother to "lay out" those facts when they had a chance in court

What are the odds that all they do tomorrow is repeat the same lies that have been debunked over and over and over and over and over again

I'd say odds are about 100% + or - nothing

The only unknown is will THE TRAITOR then incite violence after he  finally realizes IT'S OVER.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2021, 05:11:20 PM
Weird that they didn't bother to "lay out" those facts when they had a chance in court

What are the odds that all they do tomorrow is repeat the same lies that have been debunked over and over and over and over and over again

I'd say odds are about 100% + or - nothing

The only unknown is will THE TRAITOR then incite violence after he  finally realizes IT'S OVER.

With the Donald, it will never be over. He'll take this insult to his ego to his grave.  It is sad.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2021, 05:18:47 PM


The (Republican) party is over.

Vice President Mike Pence told President Trump on Tuesday that he did not believe he had the power to block congressional certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory in the presidential election despite Mr. Trump’s baseless insistence that he did.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2021, 05:32:00 PM
Of course it is too early to call, but right now the Georgia Senator election runoff isn't going well for Republicans.



on Ossoff, Democrat, 965,376   55.2%

Vrs

David Perdue*, Republican, 783,072   44.8

Raphael Warnock, Democrat, 1,011,885   54.9%

Vrs

Kelly Loeffler*, Republican, 848,111   45.4

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on January 05, 2021, 06:17:21 PM

The (Republican) party is over.

Vice President Mike Pence told President Trump on Tuesday that he did not believe he had the power to block congressional certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory in the presidential election despite Mr. Trump’s baseless insistence that he did.

The speculation is Pence will push the decision back onto the state legislatures. 

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2021, 06:31:52 PM
The speculation is Pence will push the decision back onto the state legislatures. 



Can you explain how that would play out? If Pence simply doesn't show up for the event the task of announcing the results of the election falls on Senator Charles E. Grassley, who is the most senior Republican Senator.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on January 05, 2021, 07:21:29 PM
Can you explain how that would play out?

Article 2 section 1.2 of the Constitution states that state legislatures direct the manner in which state delegates are selected.

Pence will ask which of the two slates of delegates was selected in the manner in which your state general assembly has designated?  Is it the Republican delegates or the Democrat delegates?  The state legislatures will put it to a vote. 

My personal opinion of how this will play out is that most of the states in question have majority Republican legislatures and will choose Republican delegates, but it's up to the legislatures of each state to decide.

Arizona's House is 31 Republican to 29 Democrat and the Senate is 17 Republican to 13 Democrat.  I would be surprised it their delegates end up being Democrat. 

Michigan's House is 58 Republican to 52 Democrat and the Senate is 22 Republican to 16 Democrat.  Again, I would be surprised if their delegates end up being Democrat.

Georgia House 103 R to 75 D and Senate is 35 R to 21 D.

Pennsylvania House 113 R to 90 D and the Senate is 28 R to 21 D.

Wisconsin House 60 R to 38 D and the Senate is 21 R to 12 D.


In the end I would predict Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin will all pick Republican Delegates.  At this point nobody knows for sure what the state legislatures will do.

For me, it's very telling that these states which supposedly voted for Biden all have majority Republican legislatures. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 05, 2021, 07:27:14 PM
Article 2 section 1.2 of the Constitution states that state legislatures direct the manner in which state delegates are selected.

Pence will ask which of the two slates of delegates was selected in the manner in which your state general assembly has designated?  Is it the Republican delegates or the Democrat delegates?  The state legislatures will put it to a vote. 

My personal opinion of how this will play out is that most of the states in question have majority Republican legislatures and will choose Republican delegates, but it's up to the legislatures of each state to decide.

Arizona's House is 31 Republican to 29 Democrat and the Senate is 17 Republican to 13 Democrat.  I would be surprised it their delegates end up being Democrat. 

Michigan's House is 58 Republican to 52 Democrat and the Senate is 22 Republican to 16 Democrat.  Again, I would be surprised if their delegates end up being Democrat.

Georgia House 103 R to 75 D and Senate is 35 R to 21 D.

Pennsylvania House 113 R to 90 D and the Senate is 28 R to 21 D.

Wisconsin House 60 R to 38 D and the Senate is 21 R to 12 D.


In the end I would predict Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin will all pick Republican Delegates.  At this point nobody knows for sure what the state legislatures will do.

For me, it's very telling that these states which supposedly voted for Biden all have majority Republican legislatures.

There simply is no scenario based on any real facts, rules or by-laws that support your prediction. What are legal slates of electors are exactly what they already have now. You've been given bad information. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on January 05, 2021, 08:01:36 PM
There simply is no scenario based on any real facts, rules or by-laws that support your prediction. What are legal slates of electors are exactly what they already have now. You've been given bad information.



The state legislatures may see things differently than you.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: gmflex on January 05, 2021, 08:51:23 PM

    ;D.                          ;D

Trump lost.. Tomorrow will be the final nail in the coffin..

The Donald only has 2 options..

A military coup and stay in power by force or He can run again in 4 years...

    ;D.                          ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on January 05, 2021, 09:14:08 PM
Did yahoo confirm this ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: gmflex on January 05, 2021, 09:34:56 PM
Did yahoo confirm this ?

        ;D.                                 ;D

          Pretty much everybody has..
          Including Yahoo...
          Hope this helps...
          Carry on.......
   
        ;D.                                 ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: epic is back on January 05, 2021, 09:47:50 PM
Cnn

AP news

Both owned by same people

They confirm ?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 12:38:20 AM
Article 2 section 1.2 of the Constitution states that state legislatures direct the manner in which state delegates are selected.

Pence will ask which of the two slates of delegates was selected in the manner in which your state general assembly has designated?  Is it the Republican delegates or the Democrat delegates?  The state legislatures will put it to a vote. 

My personal opinion of how this will play out is that most of the states in question have majority Republican legislatures and will choose Republican delegates, but it's up to the legislatures of each state to decide.

Arizona's House is 31 Republican to 29 Democrat and the Senate is 17 Republican to 13 Democrat.  I would be surprised it their delegates end up being Democrat. 

Michigan's House is 58 Republican to 52 Democrat and the Senate is 22 Republican to 16 Democrat.  Again, I would be surprised if their delegates end up being Democrat.

Georgia House 103 R to 75 D and Senate is 35 R to 21 D.

Pennsylvania House 113 R to 90 D and the Senate is 28 R to 21 D.

Wisconsin House 60 R to 38 D and the Senate is 21 R to 12 D.


In the end I would predict Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin will all pick Republican Delegates.  At this point nobody knows for sure what the state legislatures will do.

For me, it's very telling that these states which supposedly voted for Biden all have majority Republican legislatures.

I believe you have confused delegates with electors. 

Delegates:

The delegates are people represent their states at national party conventions. The candidate who gets the support of a majority of delegates becomes that party's presidential nominee.

Electors:

When you vote for a Presidential candidate, you aren’t actually voting for President.  You are telling your State which candidate you want your State to vote for at the meeting of electors. The States use these general election results (also known as the popular vote) to appoint their electors. The winning candidate’s State political party selects the individuals who will be electors.

When citizens cast their ballots for president in the popular vote, they elect a slate of electors. Electors then cast the votes that decide who becomes president of the United States. Usually, electoral votes align with the popular vote in an election.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 01:03:50 AM


The state legislatures may see things differently than you.

We will know soon enough who sees what, how they see it and whether it complies with the U.S. Constitution in regards to the election process.

The electors from each state already voted on December 14th. What is happening tomorrow is a counting of the vote (a formality). In a joint session a few Republican Senators and a few Republican House Representatives intend to challenge the electors' vote on the basis that the election was not legitimate in certain states. Then they must prove their claim, which will likely be that there was election fraud. Good luck with that because there is no proof of election fraud or the courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court would have heard the cases brought before them by the Republican Party and Trump's array of dingbat attorneys and ruled accordingly. Instead, the judges determined the 62 lawsuits were without merit and refused to hear them.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Palumboism on January 06, 2021, 03:56:04 AM
We will know soon enough who sees what, how they see it and whether it complies with the U.S. Constitution in regards to the election process.

The electors from each state already voted on December 14th. What is happening tomorrow is a counting of the vote (a formality).

If it really is just a "formality" then it should go off like you say.  I'm not sure it will.

I used the word delegate because that's the term they used in the video.  An elector is delegated the election responsibility. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: gmflex on January 06, 2021, 05:21:17 AM
Cnn

AP news

Both owned by same people

They confirm ?

            ;D                                 ;D

              https://www.cnn.com

           https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/donald-trump-mike-pence-congress/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/donald-trump-mike-pence-congress/index.html)

            ;D.                                ;D
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on January 06, 2021, 05:35:15 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 06:39:03 AM
Jason Miller on Congress objecting to the Electoral College tomorrow: "There is going to be a very detailed, very methodical laying out of the facts of what we saw in this election."



Pretty sure that will NOT be the case.  If they had any "facts", they would have already used them in courts right?  Why lay out the "facts" at time when it is pointless.

As Straw said, it will be nothing but repeating the same lies and conspiracy theories. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 06:40:44 AM
Of course it is too early to call, but right now the Georgia Senator election runoff isn't going well for Republicans.



on Ossoff, Democrat, 965,376   55.2%

Vrs

David Perdue*, Republican, 783,072   44.8

Raphael Warnock, Democrat, 1,011,885   54.9%

Vrs

Kelly Loeffler*, Republican, 848,111   45.4

To be honest, I am surprised the Dems made such a strong showing at all.  They are not known for showing up to vote in midterms or special elections. This is why I stated back in December that the Senate balance would not change.   

Yet here we are, one seat already picked up by them.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Hulkotron on January 06, 2021, 08:11:42 AM
It sounds like the Dems have won for once
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 10:27:31 AM
It sounds like the Dems have won for once

No.  Well, not until there is a recount, multiple lawsuits in the lower courts, an appearance before the SC, and dozens of conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 10:28:52 AM
No.  Well, not until there is a recount, multiple lawsuits in the lower courts, an appearance before the SC, and dozens of conspiracy theories.

I think it's better for all to have a house/senate majority of opposing parties.

But, if the Democrats win, they have 2 years to prove their not full of complete shit, or they'll get ransacked in the next mid terms, and the same shitty cycle of politics will continue.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on January 06, 2021, 10:33:29 AM
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 10:36:32 AM
I think it's better for all to have a house/senate majority of opposing parties.

But, if the Democrats win, they have 2 years to prove their not full of complete shit, or they'll get ransacked in the next mid terms, and the same shitty cycle of politics will continue.

The concept is sound, but not when you have a shithead like Mitch at the helm. 

Dems always perform poorly in midterms.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 10:44:04 AM
The concept is sound, but not when you have a shithead like Mitch at the helm. 

Dems always perform poorly in midterms.

But if they do well - focus on healthcare / education reform, don't get crazy with taxes, stay tough on China....they might not.

If they go full open border / free everything / $ for illegals, weak on China,  they will get crushed again, and rightfully so.

Biden is more moderate, but putting AOC/Talib on oversight committees isn't a good start.  Maybe it was just a token to get them to vote Pelosi as speaker, but they should not be what ANYONE wants in that role.

We'll see.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: funk51 on January 06, 2021, 10:49:47 AM
But if they do well - focus on healthcare / education reform, don't get crazy with taxes, stay tough on China....they might not.

If they go full open border / free everything / $ for illegals, weak on China,  they will get crushed again, and rightfully so.

Biden is more moderate, but putting AOC/Talib on oversight committees isn't a good start.  Maybe it was just a token to get them to vote Pelosi as speaker, but they should not be what ANYONE wants in that role.

We'll see.
    one can only hope.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 10:51:48 AM
    one can only hope.

They won't.

Their behavior the last four years has been abysmal, so there is little confidence.

Their inability to condemn rioting and violence during their convention and their defund the police mantra is leading to why the right won't go quietly now, as many were alienated by this.

Also, if Biden doesn't cater to the progressive side, they'll tear each other up.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 11:08:08 AM
If it really is just a "formality" then it should go off like you say.  I'm not sure it will.

I used the word delegate because that's the term they used in the video.  An elector is delegated the election responsibility.

There's a video of the U.S. Constitution? Who knew? Like most legal documents, the Constitution is about as clear as mud. Open to a variety of interpretations. Often when there's a question or a dispute about what the language means, they'll go with past practice.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ilalin on January 06, 2021, 11:09:35 AM
the only person responsible for this whole shit-show is Trump and his family. If you cannot see that he is tearing down the fabric of the American society by promoting hate and disinformation, then you deserve to have your country fall apart. You deserve to have the likes of Fox News, Mitch McConnell, Pence, Cruz and many other back-stabbing SOB-ing organizations and individuals.

Take it from somebody whose country does not exist for these exact reasons, greed and selfishnes.


I pray for a strong, united, just and fair USA, for all people, not for rich white elite!

The measure of you is not how much money you made in your life but what kind of person you were. Remember, and if it seems funny to you now, inadvertantly, sooner or later, you will discover it to be true.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 06, 2021, 11:16:33 AM
the only person responsible for this whole shit-show is Trump and his family. If you cannot see that he is tearing down the fabric of the American society by promoting hate and disinformation, then you deserve to have your country fall apart. You deserve to have the likes of Fox News, Mitch McConnell, Pence, Cruz and many other back-stabbing SOB-ing organizations and individuals.

Take it from somebody whose country does not exist for these exact reasons, greed and selfishnes.


I pray for a strong, united, just and fair USA, for all people, not for rich white elite!

The measure of you is not how much money you made in your life but what kind of person you were. Remember, and if it seems funny to you now, inadvertantly, sooner or later, you will discover it to be true.

⬆️

This is the type of SHEEP that actually believes that Epstein committed suicide in prison. He believes that the prison guards “saw nothing”, and that all of the surveillance cameras “malfunctioned”. He believes whatever lies that the mainstream media feeds him. Pitiful.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ilalin on January 06, 2021, 11:16:36 AM
at least Pence's last step just a few minutes ago was fair. He came out a man after this. Now I have respect for him. It's never too late.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 06, 2021, 11:17:19 AM
at least Pence's last step just a few minutes ago was fair. He came out a man after this. Now I have respect for him. It's never too late.

🐑
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ilalin on January 06, 2021, 11:19:04 AM
⬆️

This is the type of SHEEP that actually believes that Epstein committed suicide in prison. He believes that the prison guards “saw nothing”, and that all of the surveillance cameras “malfunctioned”. He believes whatever lies that the mainstream media feeds him. Pitiful.

I never mention Epstein, nor do you know what I think of that case. Yeah, like I said, rich white elite...
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 11:19:30 AM
at least Pence's last step just a few minutes ago was fair. He came out a man after this. Now I have respect for him. It's never too late.

He won't survive the Tweet storm.  LOL
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ilalin on January 06, 2021, 11:20:40 AM
🐑

Royalty likes to fuck sheep like his momma sheep. He picked it up during his sheep herding days.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 06, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Royalty likes to fuck sheep like his momma sheep. He picked it up during his sheep herding days.

🐑
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 06, 2021, 11:23:21 AM
I never mention Epstein, nor do you know what I think of that case. Yeah, like I said, rich white elite...

You believe lies from the media, across the board

🐑
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 11:29:05 AM
the only person responsible for this whole shit-show is Trump and his family. If you cannot see that he is tearing down the fabric of the American society by promoting hate and disinformation, then you deserve to have your country fall apart. You deserve to have the likes of Fox News, Mitch McConnell, Pence, Cruz and many other back-stabbing SOB-ing organizations and individuals.

Take it from somebody whose country does not exist for these exact reasons, greed and selfishnes.


I pray for a strong, united, just and fair USA, for all people, not for rich white elite!

The measure of you is not how much money you made in your life but what kind of person you were. Remember, and if it seems funny to you now, inadvertantly, sooner or later, you will discover it to be true.

What hate has Trump promoted?

I know this is the narrative but can you provide an explicit example of racism that he was behind as President?

Is BLM a movement that is promoting unity, acceptance and love?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 11:32:25 AM
the only person responsible for this whole shit-show is Trump and his family. If you cannot see that he is tearing down the fabric of the American society by promoting hate and disinformation, then you deserve to have your country fall apart. You deserve to have the likes of Fox News, Mitch McConnell, Pence, Cruz and many other back-stabbing SOB-ing organizations and individuals.

Take it from somebody whose country does not exist for these exact reasons, greed and selfishnes.


I pray for a strong, united, just and fair USA, for all people, not for rich white elite!

The measure of you is not how much money you made in your life but what kind of person you were. Remember, and if it seems funny to you now, inadvertantly, sooner or later, you will discover it to be true.

Fuck off - people need to take personal responsibility for their own actions.

It was clear from the get-go Trump would be an absolute monster on twitter with everything.

Those who became obsessed with his words developed strong TDS, and blamed him for all their own shortcomings.  They don't get a pass.

The Democrats themselves developed it - instead of doing in introspective on why they lost, they claimed foul play (sound familiar?) and painted his followers with a broad, condescending brush.

Those who didn't, and just followed his actions, went about their lives normally.

Like any President's actions he did both good and bad - good for our military, border, trade, prison reform, lower taxes, economic boom, etc......bad for failing to fix health care, education, losing congress, and his messaging around covid.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: ilalin on January 06, 2021, 11:53:30 AM
Exactly what I was taking about a few posts above is happening. You, rep fuckers never listen to me. Now the Orange cawk will lead you to destroy your own country. Good for you rape ape.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 12:15:13 PM
Exactly what I was taking about a few posts above is happening. You, rep fuckers never listen to me. Now the Orange cawk will lead you to destroy your own country. Good for you rape ape.

Rep?

I'm libertarian/independent

Can't stand either side

But nobody listens to you because you're a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Straw Man on January 06, 2021, 12:17:22 PM
Rep?

I'm libertarian/independent

Can't stand either side

But nobody listens to you because you're a fucking idiot.

bullshit

You LOVE THE TRAITOR

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Royalty on January 06, 2021, 12:21:27 PM
Exactly what I was taking about a few posts above is happening. You, rep fuckers never listen to me. Now the Orange cawk will lead you to destroy your own country. Good for you rape ape.

🐑
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 06, 2021, 12:27:50 PM
bullshit

I LOVE THE COCK


Ftfy
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 01:32:51 PM
Trumpy still claiming he won.  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 01:43:46 PM
What hate has Trump promoted?

I know this is the narrative but can you provide an explicit example of racism that he was behind as President?

Is BLM a movement that is promoting unity, acceptance and love?

Question, do you think Trump has any responsibility for what is happening right now in our Nation's Capital? Has anything he's said over the last couple of months inspired this protest? Secondly, should he do or say something that might ease the tension and stop the protested which have turned violent?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2021, 01:56:43 PM
Question, do you think Trump has any responsibility for what is happening right now in our Nation's Capital? Has anything he's said over the last couple of months inspired this protest? Secondly, should he do or say something that might ease the tension and stop the protested which have turned violent?
Yeah concede the election.but we know that will never happen.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 02:00:52 PM
Yeah concede the election.but we know that will never happen.

You are likely right, which is incredibly sad because he's responsible for doing a lot of damage to our Democracy already and it may get worse.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 02:03:49 PM
Question, do you think Trump has any responsibility for what is happening right now in our Nation's Capital? Has anything he's said over the last couple of months inspired this protest? Secondly, should he do or say something that might ease the tension and stop the protested which have turned violent?

Of course he has incited it.  He wants other people (election officials, judges, SC judges, etc..) to do his dirty work for him because in addition to being a coward, he is lazy too. 

His legacy is as the biggest loser EVER to get elected.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 02:32:05 PM
Question, do you think Trump has any responsibility for what is happening right now in our Nation's Capital? Has anything he's said over the last couple of months inspired this protest? Secondly, should he do or say something that might ease the tension and stop the protested which have turned violent?

So in this case we want him speaking out against the protesting but when it was happening over the summer and he spoke out against it he was racist?


Trump isn’t going to be anyone than he always has been: childish, egotistical, poor loser, etc...  should he handle the loss with class, be willing to concede and behave Presidentially? Yes he should.  But we should hold the media and other politicians who spoke out against Trump, promoting lies and falsehoods, while he was in office.

But none of this is him dividing the country any more than a rogue police offer in Minnesota did.

Trumps lack of class here is likely a larger part of the reason why he didn’t win re election, but it’s foolish to think he would suddenly be something other than what he always has been.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on January 06, 2021, 03:39:40 PM


But none of this is him dividing the country any more than a rogue police offer in Minnesota did.



You don't think the president of the country has more influence than a "rogue" police officer?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 06, 2021, 03:56:31 PM
You don't think the president of the country has more influence than a "rogue" police officer?

He moved the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.  After that, nothing else really matters to David D.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 04:03:15 PM
So in this case we want him speaking out against the protesting but when it was happening over the summer and he spoke out against it he was racist?


Trump isn’t going to be anyone than he always has been: childish, egotistical, poor loser, etc...  should he handle the loss with class, be willing to concede and behave Presidentially? Yes he should.  But we should hold the media and other politicians who spoke out against Trump, promoting lies and falsehoods, while he was in office.

But none of this is him dividing the country any more than a rogue police offer in Minnesota did.

Trumps lack of class here is likely a larger part of the reason why he didn’t win re election, but it’s foolish to think he would suddenly be something other than what he always has been.

There's a difference between speaking out against something and actually encouraging it to happen.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
You don't think the president of the country has more influence than a "rogue" police officer?

Of course I do. How has Trump influenced you?

Trump calling for the protesters/supporters to march and disrupt the electoral process is completely as low class as it gets.

But if he was so "influential" why didnt the protests end when he spoke out against them? Or do groups of people do what they want regardless of influence?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 04:08:55 PM
There's a difference between speaking out against something and actually encouraging it to happen.

Ok. Give an example?

Trump called for rioters to cease and he called for elected officials to put an end to the peaceful protests.  True or false? Was this encouraging or speaking out against something?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 04:17:37 PM
He moved the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.  After that, nothing else really matters to David D.

Upset about something Abraham? Biden will do the right thing correct this wrong.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 06, 2021, 04:19:10 PM
Upset about something Abraham? Biden will do the right thing correct this wrong.

Not at all.  You are just full of shit.  You are a right wing zealot who tries to pretend that you are not. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 04:23:28 PM
Not at all.  You are just full of shit.  You are a right wing zealot who tries to pretend that you are not.

Thanks for the thoughtful and respectful answer.

Lol yes im a right wing zealot.

Pellius called me a liberal left wing cop hater who wants the destruction of America and now you're exposing me!

You're right Im wrong. 

You seem like a guy who has it all figured out. Im glad you're here with all the answers.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 04:24:12 PM
Not at all.  You are just full of shit.  You are a right wing zealot who tries to pretend that you are not.

Ka-Pow!   That's how you punch them in the mouth.   
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 04:28:44 PM
Twitter locked Trump's account for 12 hours.  You know he is just seething over it.  What do you think his new Twitter handle will be until tomorrow? 

CheatingCheetoh?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 04:34:47 PM
Ok. Give an example?

Trump called for rioters to cease and he called for elected officials to put an end to the peaceful protests.  True or false? Was this encouraging or speaking out against something?

The fact that Twitter took down 3 of Trump's tweets today because they were in violation of Twitter's rules says volumes. Facebook and Youtube also took down a video he posted today.

Twitter on Wednesday said it would lock the account of President Donald Trump for 12 hours after Trump posted tweets continuing to make false claims about the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Facebook, YouTube and Twitter on Wednesday removed a video by President Donald Trump addressing Washington rioters.

Meanwhile, calls are mounting for Twitter and Facebook to suspend Trump’s accounts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/twitter-pledges-action-on-any-calls-for-violence-in-capitol-riot.html


Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 04:40:38 PM
The fact that Twitter took down 3 of Trump's tweets today because they were in violation of Twitter's rules says volumes.

Not really, considering the source.

Twitter has been dragged in front of Senate multiple times to explain anti-conservative bias.

This is just business as usual for them.

And this isn't a defense of Trump's tweets - I don't follow them or care to.  But Twitter censoring anyone means jack shit, as they have lost credibility with any thinking person.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 06, 2021, 04:42:58 PM
Not really, considering the source.

Twitter has been dragged in front of Senate multiple times to explain anti-conservative bias.

This is just business as usual for them.

And this isn't a defense of Trump's tweets - I don't follow them or care to.  But Twitter censoring anyone means jack shit, as they have lost credibility for any thinking person.
All media/social media has to be looked at with side eye. Most veer hard left and randomly enforce their political agendas, I believe they also intentionally put out false info about the right while making the left appear to be victims. We all know leftists love their victim status.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 06, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
All media/social media has to be looked at with side eye. Most veer hard left and randomly enforce their political agendas, I believe they also intentionally put out false info about the right while making the left appear to be victims. We all know leftists love their victim status.

Pot meet kettle.  There is no bigger collective group of victims than you lads on the right.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2021, 04:57:30 PM
Not really, considering the source.

Twitter has been dragged in front of Senate multiple times to explain anti-conservative bias.

This is just business as usual for them.

And this isn't a defense of Trump's tweets - I don't follow them or care to.  But Twitter censoring anyone means jack shit, as they have lost credibility with any thinking person.

How you feel about Twitter or other social media is not the issue. Trump's inflammatory tweets today, intended to instigate more of what these folks were doing in D.C. today may have been removed, but not before they were documented.

There's even talk of using the 25th Amendment to silence Trump. Which in my opinion would be a mistake because it would likely cause more violent riots by his supporters, such as we witnessed today. It would also allow Pence to pardon Trump for any federal crimes he may have committed. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 05:08:22 PM
How you feel about Twitter or other social media is not the issue. Trump's inflammatory tweets today, intended to instigate more of what these folks were doing in D.C. today may have been removed, but not before they were documented.

There's even talk of using the 25th Amendment to silence Trump. Which in my opinion would be a mistake because it would likely cause more violent riots by his supporters, such as we witnessed today. It would also allow Pence to pardon Trump for any federal crimes he may have committed.

What specific federal crimes are you talking about?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 06, 2021, 05:39:20 PM
Pot meet kettle.  There is no bigger collective group of victims than you lads on the right.
Says the guy that spent the last 4 years whining about some orange guy. ::)
I assume you'll be fully supportive when this group of people decide to riot, loot, destroy and assault people in order to express their frustrations with this elections results, right?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 06, 2021, 05:41:50 PM
Says the guy that spent the last 4 years whining about some orange guy. ::)
I assume you'll be fully supportive when this group of people decide to riot, loot, destroy and assault people in order to express their frustrations with this elections results, right?

Pretty weak.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 06, 2021, 05:45:59 PM
Pretty weak.
Have you tried lifting weights?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 06, 2021, 05:49:12 PM
Have you tried lifting weights?

Not yet.  Really digging this hot yoga thing.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on January 06, 2021, 05:54:56 PM
Of course I do. How has Trump influenced you?

Trump calling for the protesters/supporters to march and disrupt the electoral process is completely as low class as it gets.

But if he was so "influential" why didnt the protests end when he spoke out against them? Or do groups of people do what they want regardless of influence?

I think you're referring to the BLM-related protests throughout last year, and I think the obvious reason is because those protesters were marching AGAINST what trump stood for. So obviously his condemnations would carry less weight with them. Just like your wife or girfriend or child would be much more likely to influence you to do something they asked you to do than someone you don't like or care for. Likewise, when that person appealed to you to stop doing something, you'd be more resistant to them than someone you liked or respected. And influence does not necessarily mean force. It has different levels, and just amplifying a message is a big deal.

trump spent a huge chunk of the start of his presidency blasting peaceful NFL protests, so why would anyone who cared about the issue take his opinion on protests as measured. It could be reasonably argued that his behavior was huge contributing factor in the protests getting so much traction.

It's so interesting how a lot of the right turn into behavioral psychologists and fortune tellers when it comes to interpreting what the left means and wants to happen, but when it comes to repug personalities (and specifically cheeto), they turn into autistics who can't understand anything that's not laid out in bullet point format.

He'll trash nfl players for peaceful protests, but then meet with his daughter's socialite friend to publicize his prison reform initiatives. He'll speak out of both sides of his mouth on covid19 which results in members here calling it a hoax, until Trump gets it, afterwhich it immediately turns into a politically-motivated assassination attempt. He'll tweet "Free The States" and when states threaten to open, he'll claim it's too soon and that's not what he meant. He'll play into Q-anon theories by making huge press blitzes related to human trafficking initiatives. And there's nothing wrong with human trafficking initiatives, but they overwhelmingly benefit adults, specifically sex workers and immigrants. He's blatantly and patently divisive on his own, but his ambiguity is an even more powerful source of division. And it's clear as day that he weaponized it for political gain- to a certain extent, even against his own party.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2021, 06:01:14 PM
I think you're referring to the BLM-related protests throughout last year, and I think the obvious reason is because those protesters were marching AGAINST what trump stood for.

Legit question - What does Trump support/stand for that BLM was against, besides capitalism and the police?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on January 06, 2021, 06:23:38 PM
Legit question - What does Trump support/stand for that BLM was against, besides capitalism and the police?

For starters, he has said that he believes it's inherently racist. Secondly, it is a movement centered around  curbing police abuse, so I don't even get why you wrote "besides" as if that's some minor point.  It is the most important point.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 06:48:58 PM
Says the guy that spent the last 4 years whining about some orange guy. ::)

Says the bitch that has been crying since 2008 about Obama.  Including the four years he wasn't in office.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 06:54:08 PM
What's with all these Trumpturds trying to play the middle of the field and have a neutral stance now?  Trump lost for like the 5x already, there is no more hope, no more "what-ifs" you can delusion yourselves with, and despite trying to appear that you've accepted it, it is obvious to even Ray Charles it is killing you inside. 

But hey, let's pretend like no one remembers your moronic posts and delusional excuses for the orange turd as recently as last week.  Hide behind gimmick accounts like the coward your little leader is.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 06, 2021, 07:03:25 PM
Not yet.  Really digging this hot yoga thing.
Sweaty moobs?

Says the bitch that has been crying since 2008 about Obama.  Including the four years he wasn't in office.
You come across quite hurt, ever consider some sort of therapy for your TDS? Maybe a handful of pills and a bottle of vodka ???
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 07:03:53 PM
I think you're referring to the BLM-related protests throughout last year, and I think the obvious reason is because those protesters were marching AGAINST what trump stood for. So obviously his condemnations would carry less weight with them. Just like your wife or girfriend or child would be much more likely to influence you to do something they asked you to do than someone you don't like or care for. Likewise, when that person appealed to you to stop doing something, you'd be more resistant to them than someone you liked or respected. And influence does not necessarily mean force. It has different levels, and just amplifying a message is a big deal.

trump spent a huge chunk of the start of his presidency blasting peaceful NFL protests, so why would anyone who cared about the issue take his opinion on protests as measured. It could be reasonably argued that his behavior was huge contributing factor in the protests getting so much traction.

It's so interesting how a lot of the right turn into behavioral psychologists and fortune tellers when it comes to interpreting what the left means and wants to happen, but when it comes to repug personalities (and specifically cheeto), they turn into autistics who can't understand anything that's not laid out in bullet point format.

He'll trash nfl players for peaceful protests, but then meet with his daughter's socialite friend to publicize his prison reform initiatives. He'll speak out of both sides of his mouth on covid19 which results in members here calling it a hoax, until Trump gets it, afterwhich it immediately turns into a politically-motivated assassination attempt. He'll tweet "Free The States" and when states threaten to open, he'll claim it's too soon and that's not what he meant. He'll play into Q-anon theories by making huge press blitzes related to human trafficking initiatives. And there's nothing wrong with human trafficking initiatives, but they overwhelmingly benefit adults, specifically sex workers and immigrants. He's blatantly and patently divisive on his own, but his ambiguity is an even more powerful source of division. And it's clear as day that he weaponized it for political gain- to a certain extent, even against his own party.

Again you’re complaining that an egotistical sociopath has lied and continues to do so. Were you complaining that the media supported the idea that Russians breeched Facebook security to influence the election, or do those lies not matter as much because people are more influenced by the President than the media?

Trump convinced a few lunatics, and it’s a small number of protesters in comparison to the millions who voted for him, to protest. Shame on him, but everyone knew he wasn’t going to take this loss with dignity. 

Don’t worry his reign of terror will soon be over and we can go back to normalcy. We will be unified as one country where all races walk hand in hand in peace and love like we were before Trump caused all this division.

Lol at Trump selling out his own party, the guy was a life long Democrat until he decided to run for President, then he became a Republican.

He’s a scumbag for suggesting people storm the capital but his “influence” was nowhere as powerful as the protesting that took place this summer, unless these protests last until March.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 06, 2021, 07:09:28 PM
Again you’re complaining that an egotistical sociopath has lied and continues to do so. Were you complaining that the media supported the idea that Russians breeched Facebook security to influence the election, or do those lies not matter as much because people are more influenced by the President than the media?

Trump convinced a few lunatics, and it’s a small number of protesters in comparison to the millions who voted for him, to protest. Shame on him, but everyone knew he wasn’t going to take this loss with dignity. 

Don’t worry his reign of terror will soon be over and we can go back to normalcy. We will be unified as one country where all races walk hand in hand in peace and love like we were before Trump caused all this division.

Lol at Trump selling out his own party, the guy was a life long Democrat until he decided to run for President, then he became a Republican.

He’s a scumbag for suggesting people storm the capital but his “influence” was nowhere as powerful as the protesting that took place this summer, unless these protests last until March.

What about the democrat hag that told people to get into the faces of conservative politicians while they were out in public with their families? Or the democrats that encouraged the BLM, antifa protests? Gimmie a break.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 07:10:30 PM
Sweaty moobs?
You come across quite hurt, ever consider some sort of therapy for your TDS? Maybe a handful of pills and a bottle of vodka ???

Could be worse.  I could be the walking poster child for the My Life Sucks starter pack.  Conehead, cankles, shitty ink....   does it come with a GED too?

If I pay the $19.99 for an upgrade will I get an ex wife, alcoholic tendencies and misdemeanor arrest bonus included?  Can I pay a bit more and get a felony record, prior substance abuse and kids I don't see options as well?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 07:15:41 PM
What about the democrat hag that told people to get into the faces of conservative politicians while they were out in public with their families? Or the democrats that encouraged the BLM, antifa protests? Gimmie a break.

That doesn’t count bro. She is good. Trump is evil with zero good (she also doesn’t have anywhere near the same influence of the President). Remember to fit the narrative in the framework.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 06, 2021, 07:17:35 PM
Could be worse.  I could be the walking poster child for the My Life Sucks starter pack.  Conehead, cankles, shitty ink....   does it come with a GED too?

If I pay the $19.99 for an upgrade will I get an ex wife, alcoholic tendencies and misdemeanor arrest bonus included?  Can I pay a bit more and get a felony record, prior substance abuse and kids I don't see options as well?
Oh geez, it's drunk again.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 07:18:50 PM
Oh geez, it's drunk again.

Is that how you cope with life?  Especially now.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: chaos on January 06, 2021, 07:19:55 PM
Is that how you cope with life?  Especially now.
By mocking your shizzo level drunken posts? Yes, I find you amusing, like a poodle dressed in a clown costume.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 07:26:12 PM
By mocking your shizzo level drunken posts? Yes, I find you amusing, like a poodle dressed in a clown costume.

No, by making excuses and clinging to delusional assumptions. 

Obviously that extra head space doesn't make you any smarter.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 06, 2021, 07:34:24 PM
Could be worse.  I could be the walking poster child for the My Life Sucks starter pack.  Conehead, cankles, shitty ink....   does it come with a GED too?

If I pay the $19.99 for an upgrade will I get an ex wife, alcoholic tendencies and misdemeanor arrest bonus included?  Can I pay a bit more and get a felony record, prior substance abuse and kids I don't see options as well?

Goddamn! Gloves off. 🤣
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: pellius on January 06, 2021, 07:38:02 PM
Pot meet kettle.  There is no bigger collective group of victims than you lads on the right.

What would be a few examples of people on the right portraying themselves as victims?
The bias in the media is a fact. A study was done where 87% of the journalist voted Democrat. The bias against White Christian males are also demonstrably portrayed. Minorities can complain all they want but there are actual government programs like affirmative action which favor minorities and therefore discriminate against Whites. Conservatives believe in personal responsibility and don't look for outside forces for help like government programs and don't cry about discriminated against when they don't get as much of other people's money than they think they are entitled to.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
What moronic pussy changed the thread title?   'Fess up so we can laugh at how stupid you are.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on January 06, 2021, 08:13:48 PM
Again you’re complaining that an egotistical sociopath has lied and continues to do so. Were you complaining that the media supported the idea that Russians breeched Facebook security to influence the election, or do those lies not matter as much because people are more influenced by the President than the media?

My first response to you in this thread was to you saying this this:
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But none of this is him dividing the country any more than a rogue police offer in Minnesota did.

My reply had nothing to do with whether or not you could find examples of divisiveness on the other side of the political aisle, it was about you saying that  a "rogue" cop was equal in influence to the leader of the most powerful nation.  This is the second time you've said something tantamount to "why would you expect him to change now?" when no one in this thread has said they're surprised. The same complaints that people have about him now are the same ones they've had for the last 4-6 years and no one has said they are surprised by his lack of class or dignity. No one in this thread has said that they suddenly started thinking he was a shitbag in the last few weeks.

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Lol at Trump selling out his own party, the guy was a life long Democrat until he decided to run for President, then he became a Republican.
That's debatable. He's been saying he would run as a republican as far back as the 80s. Regardless, the intraparty conflicts he had weren't based on ideology, they were more about the cult of personality he constructed around himself.


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He’s a scumbag for suggesting people storm the capital but his “influence” was nowhere as powerful as the protesting that took place this summer, unless these protests last until March.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. I don't think most people measure "influence" on a binary scale, where it has to be tangibly equal to an opposing event or else it is nonexistent.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on January 06, 2021, 08:24:33 PM
What would be a few examples of people on the right portraying themselves as victims?
The bias in the media is a fact. A study was done where 87% of the journalist voted Democrat. The bias against White Christian males are also demonstrably portrayed. Minorities can complain all they want but there are actual government programs like affirmative action which favor minorities and therefore discriminate against Whites. Conservatives believe in personal responsibility and don't look for outside forces for help like government programs and don't cry about discriminated against when they don't get as much of other people's money than they think they are entitled to.

IMO affirmative action is a perfect example of right wing victim status. It is one of the right's leading boogeymen, even though it's not very prevalent in employment at all. It's more prevalent  in higher education, but even there, it ends up benefiting white women and white men (veterans) more than people of color. And even there, a big part of AA in regards to race is as a reaction to legacy admissions, which is a far more prevalent phenomenon and predominately white.

Also, there's no way that 87% number is right. Even the bluest state in the country isn't 87% democrat.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Al Doggity on January 06, 2021, 08:25:12 PM
What moronic pussy changed the thread title?   'Fess up so we can laugh at how stupid you are.

X2, but it was definitely chaos.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 08:28:41 PM
X2, but it was definitely chaos.

Well that explains the stupid part.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Dave D on January 06, 2021, 08:43:58 PM
My first response to you in this thread was to you saying this this:
My reply had nothing to do with whether or not you could find examples of divisiveness on the other side of the political aisle, it was about you saying that  a "rogue" cop was equal in influence to the leader of the most powerful nation.  This is the second time you've said something tantamount to "why would you expect him to change now?" when no one in this thread has said they're surprised. The same complaints that people have about him now are the same ones they've had for the last 4-6 years and no one has said they are surprised by his lack of class or dignity. No one in this thread has said that they suddenly started thinking he was a shitbag in the last few weeks.
That's debatable. He's been saying he would run as a republican as far back as the 80s. Regardless, the intraparty conflicts he had weren't based on ideology, they were more about the cult of personality he constructed around himself.

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. I don't think most people measure "influence" on a binary scale, where it has to be tangibly equal to an opposing event or else it is nonexistent.

Al you're a good dude.

I thought I answered your question about the rogue cop when I said of course I think the President is more influential. By doing or saying anything could it have played a factor in calming people down during those rights? I would think it would have but his silence wasnt responsible for the rioters actions.

So you're saying no one is surprised by Trumps behavior they're just complaining about it? Fine. BUT my comment was in response to Prime saying what Trump should do and I pointed out that hes behaving as he always had. So that would be some surprised/disappointed in his behavior.

You say its debatable that he was a  lifelong Democrat or (at least he hasnt been since the 80s) fine. Is it debatable that he was a Clinton supporter while Bill was President? Or has he been a staunch Republican since the 80s?

As for final point you start with asking me does a rogue cop have more influence than the President, I said of course he doesn't. Now you're saying the  influence cant be measured when I suggested that the media is more  complicit, for using their influence , for the riots that lasted  the summer than Trump is for having his protestors show up for one day (so far).

So one on hand protesting and rioting is ok, when you agree with the ideology, but on the other hand its divisive and wrong, when you disagree with the root issue. Is this what you're saying?

Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: hardgainerj on January 06, 2021, 09:25:34 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_qThmSEJaAc

https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1609988225991.jpg (https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1609988225991.jpg)
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2021, 09:39:43 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_qThmSEJaAc

https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1609988225991.jpg (https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1609988225991.jpg)

No sympathy.  If she hadn't been where she shouldn't have been... she would still be alive. 

Just for reference :
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2021, 12:55:48 AM
By mocking your shizzo level drunken posts? Yes, I find you amusing, like a poodle dressed in a clown costume.

Poodles dressed in clown costumes are ridiculously cute. You shouldn't malign them.

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B91385/dog-dressed-up-in-preppy-almost-clown-like-clothes-B91385.jpg)

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2021, 02:37:46 AM
IMO affirmative action is a perfect example of right wing victim status. It is one of the right's leading boogeymen, even though it's not very prevalent in employment at all. It's more prevalent  in higher education, but even there, it ends up benefiting white women and white men (veterans) more than people of color. And even there, a big part of AA in regards to race is as a reaction to legacy admissions, which is a far more prevalent phenomenon and predominately white.

Also, there's no way that 87% number is right. Even the bluest state in the country isn't 87% democrat.

No, you are wrong. AA is still very prevalent. Both officially and "unofficially". Even in the Biden administration, it is obvious that he is paying close attention to minority appointments and even boasting about it. "Looking like America." A minority will always get a pass and get away with things socially and culturally that a White man could never get away with. Name the last time a Black man suffered any consequences for making a racist remark?

And I said 87% of JOURNALIST identified themselves as Democrat so "yes way".

You are a Black man and it is obvious to everyone except you that you see all things through the prism of race and will always favor minorities especially Blacks.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2021, 02:39:08 AM
Poodles dressed in clown costumes are ridiculously cute. You shouldn't malign them.

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B91385/dog-dressed-up-in-preppy-almost-clown-like-clothes-B91385.jpg)

How many times a day do you google everything?
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: epic is back on January 07, 2021, 03:16:45 AM
You fucks came unhinged

Get a life
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 07, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
Anyone still claiming voter fraud at this point is just a stupid individual. 
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 07, 2021, 10:25:08 AM
That doesn’t count bro. She is good. Trump is evil with zero good (she also doesn’t have anywhere near the same influence of the President). Remember to fit the narrative in the framework.

Seriously? Thats s really lame excuse.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2021, 11:50:15 AM
How many times a day do you google everything?

Thousands of times....what's it to you? It's my time and I'll do with it what I choose.

Googling images of 'Poodle in a clown suit' was interesting and fun....most of the dogs pictured weren't Poodles and you'll notice the Poodle in the picture isn't wearing a clown suit.

You can follow me and my posts around like a sick puppy as much as you want. You can make whatever comments that come into your disagreeable head regarding what I post and whether it was Googled or not. "I really don't care, do you?"
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: King Shizzo on January 07, 2021, 11:58:37 AM
Thousands of times....what's it to you? It's my time awnd I'll do with it what I choose.

Googling images of 'Poodle in a clown suit' was interesting and fun....most of the dogs pictured weren't Poodles and you'll notice the Poodle in the picture isn't wearing a clown suit.

You can follow me and my posts around like a sick puppy as much as you want. You can make whatever comments that come into your disagreeable head regarding what I post and whether it was Googled or not. "I really don't care, do you?"
...MELTDOWN.

Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2021, 12:18:12 PM
...MELTDOWN.

:)

Just for kicks  I Googled this for the photo. It's Melania Trump. She took a lot of shit for wearing at the time and because of the event.

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/gettyimages-980585602-1539450153.jpg?crop=0.668xw:1.00xh;0.167xw,0&resize=980:*)

Incidentally, why did you change 'and' to 'awnd' when you quoted my post?  I kind of liked the way it sounds when I said it out loud. I googled it, (of course) and this is what came up. It is an acronym for 'Abatement Within Ninety Days'. Kind of funny, huh? BTW don't anyone hold their breath. It isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: King Shizzo on January 07, 2021, 12:27:47 PM
:)

Just for kicks  I Googled this for the photo. It's Melania Trump. She took a lot of shit for wearing at the time and because of the event.

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/gettyimages-980585602-1539450153.jpg?crop=0.668xw:1.00xh;0.167xw,0&resize=980:*)

Incidentally, why did you change 'and' to 'awnd' when you quoted my post?  I kind of liked the way it sounds when I said it out loud. I googled it, (of course) and this is what came up. It is an acronym for 'Abatement Within Ninety Days'. Kind of funny, huh? BTW don't anyone hold their breath. It isn't going to happen.
I'm not a Trump supporter. I have never voted in my life. Strange, seems like I'm not the one who is the problem.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2021, 12:34:33 PM
Thousands of times....what's it to you? It's my time and I'll do with it what I choose.

Googling images of 'Poodle in a clown suit' was interesting and fun....most of the dogs pictured weren't Poodles and you'll notice the Poodle in the picture isn't wearing a clown suit.

You can follow me and my posts around like a sick puppy as much as you want. You can make whatever comments that come into your disagreeable head regarding what I post and whether it was Googled or not. "I really don't care, do you?"

Meltdown

What's it to me?  I like to highlight what a sad, lonely old man you are. Googling constantly and then lecturing us and trying come off as some font of knowledge and wisdom. I like to highlight how you keep saying "you really don't care" as you cry more than anybody else by far to the mods and how you respond with your meltdowns. I like to highlight what a fake, phony, repulsive soggy, old, queer you are.

Thousands of times? That sounds about right. "Googling images of 'Poodle in a clown suit' was interesting and fun..." Typical of an 80-year-old man in the beginning stages of dementia drooling and giggling to himself as he googles poodles so he can post a pic for all of us here at GetBig and think he is entertaining us. Did you google "double entendre", fake and phony clown?  What a pathetic, contemptible, old phag you are. Your whole life revolves around GetBig.


Your legacy here will forever be that of a delusional, creepy, little old guy - for a MULTITUDE of reasons... 

Part of the creepiness of Prime is that he doesn't have any idea what he does is creepy and when someone explains what/why it's creepy, he finds a way to defend his creepiness.
So creepy.



Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2021, 12:36:10 PM
I'm not a Trump supporter. I have never voted in my life. Strange, seems like I'm not the one who is the problem.

What makes you believe that I thought you were a Trump supporter? Why is everyone so serious around here? I thought you of all people have a great sense of humor.

On another note, Do you think Melania will attend Biden and Harris' inauguration....and if she does will she wear that jacket? If she did, it would be a riot.....as in funny one not a destructive and violent one.

P.S. You should register and vote. It is your civic duty. Yeah, it's just one vote but on rare occasions people have won elections and ballots that only required a simple majority have passed. It also give you credible political talking rights.  ;D

Sorry, can't think of something to Google for this reply.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2021, 12:37:12 PM
:)

Just for kicks  I Googled this for the photo. It's Melania Trump. She took a lot of shit for wearing at the time and because of the event.

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/gettyimages-980585602-1539450153.jpg?crop=0.668xw:1.00xh;0.167xw,0&resize=980:*)

Incidentally, why did you change 'and' to 'awnd' when you quoted my post?  I kind of liked the way it sounds when I said it out loud. I googled it, (of course) and this is what came up. It is an acronym for 'Abatement Within Ninety Days'. Kind of funny, huh? BTW don't anyone hold their breath. It isn't going to happen.

Have you googled "soggy, old, anally bored out, queer"?
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: hardgainerj on January 07, 2021, 12:58:59 PM
No, you are wrong. AA is still very prevalent. Both officially and "unofficially". Even in the Biden administration, it is obvious that he is paying close attention to minority appointments and even boasting about it. "Looking like America." A minority will always get a pass and get away with things socially and culturally that a White man could never get away with. Name the last time a Black man suffered any consequences for making a racist remark?

And I said 87% of JOURNALIST identified themselves as Democrat so "yes way".

You are a Black man and it is obvious to everyone except you that you see all things through the prism of race and will always favor minorities especially Blacks.
affirmative action mobilized the black middle class during the Bush era
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2021, 12:59:46 PM
Have you googled "soggy, old, anally bored out, queer"?

Nope. Have you? You seem very interested in these things....I mean you do keep repeating them. Which is perfectly fine if it makes you feel good.

'Semantic satiation is a psychological phenomenon in which repetition causes a word or phrase to lose meaning for the reader, who then perceives the comment as repeated meaningless....'

I Googled this just for you.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: King Shizzo on January 07, 2021, 01:06:03 PM
I actually think Pellius and Primemuscle like each other. Salami sabres are probably banging as we speak.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2021, 01:11:04 PM
I actually think Pellius and Primemuscle like each other. Salami sabres are probably banging as we speak.

You have a really vivid and in this case flawed imagination. He's just not my type. I prefer humans.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Les Grossman on January 07, 2021, 01:12:40 PM
I actually think Pellius and Primemuscle like each other. Salami sabres are probably banging as we speak.

Your jealousy is only slightly less embarrassing than your homosexuality.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: King Shizzo on January 07, 2021, 01:13:46 PM
You have a really vivid and in this case flawed imagination. He's just not my type. I prefer humans.
You don't get aroused by pig nipples?

Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: King Shizzo on January 07, 2021, 01:20:07 PM
Your jealousy is only slightly less embarrassing than your homosexuality.
Not gay.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 07, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
Not gay.

Queers are probably thankful you don't identify with them.

Some people like Trump.
Some people like Biden.
Some people like blacks.
Some people like nazis.
Some people like men.
Some people like women.
Nobody likes you.

The only reason you came back from the dead is because neither God nor Satan wanted to your ass around them.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: King Shizzo on January 07, 2021, 01:27:41 PM
Queers are probably thankful you don't identify with them.

Some people like Trump.
Some people like Biden.
Some people like blacks.
Some people like nazis.
Some people like men.
Some people like women.
Nobody likes you.

The only reason you came back from the dead is because neither God nor Satan wanted to your ass around them.
Lol!
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on January 07, 2021, 03:35:36 PM
Have you googled "soggy, old, anally bored out, queer"?

Bro.  Just ask him for a dick pic.  Quit beating around the bush.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2021, 03:52:19 PM
Bro.  Just ask him for a dick pic.  Quit beating around the bush.

LOL! He can't afford it.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on January 07, 2021, 05:05:15 PM
Al you're a good dude.
Likewise, bro. Still think you're one of the funniest dudes here.

Quote
I thought I answered your question about the rogue cop when I said of course I think the President is more influential. By doing or saying anything could it have played a factor in calming people down during those rights? I would think it would have but his silence wasnt responsible for the rioters actions.

So you're saying no one is surprised by Trumps behavior they're just complaining about it? Fine. BUT my comment was in response to Prime saying what Trump should do and I pointed out that hes behaving as he always had. So that would be some surprised/disappointed in his behavior.

You say its debatable that he was a  lifelong Democrat or (at least he hasnt been since the 80s) fine. Is it debatable that he was a Clinton supporter while Bill was President? Or has he been a staunch Republican since the 80s?

As for final point you start with asking me does a rogue cop have more influence than the President, I said of course he doesn't. Now you're saying the  influence cant be measured when I suggested that the media is more  complicit, for using their influence , for the riots that lasted  the summer than Trump is for having his protestors show up for one day (so far).

So one on hand protesting and rioting is ok, when you agree with the ideology, but on the other hand its divisive and wrong, when you disagree with the root issue. Is this what you're saying?

My point was not that influence can't be measured. That was exactly opposite of what I meant. It was that influence DOES have levels. It's not binary. You appeared to be saying that because yesterday's protests weren't as big and prolonged as the protests over the summer, then that was a reflection of trump's influence being limited and largely imagined by the left. Again, I was responding to a post of yours where you appeared to be trying to minimize how divisive trump's administration has been. A lot of the other points you made in this post... it's a lot to unpack because you're making multiple assumptions that are based on things I haven't posted and also taking things for granted that I don't. For instance, I didn't say anything about one set of protests being good and the other being bad. However, one set of protests was in support of him, ostensibly in his name by his supporters and fueled in large part by him floating a batshit conspiracy theory about voter fraud. For another, the media and the president don't have the same jobs and I don't have the same expectations for them. You seem to be focusing on the word influence when the point of my original post was the divisiveness his term sowed, which was limited to yesterday.

In the 2016 debates, trump said that he donated and hobnobbed with politicians of all stripes for influence. I never said he was a staunch republican. My response was to you saying that he was a "life long democrat"(your exact words). There is video of him saying he would run as a republican as far back as the 80s, so at the very least, he hasn't consistently presented himself to the public as a democrat for the past 40 years.
Title: Re: More fraud
Post by: Al Doggity on January 07, 2021, 05:10:32 PM
No, you are wrong. AA is still very prevalent. Both officially and "unofficially". Even in the Biden administration, it is obvious that he is paying close attention to minority appointments and even boasting about it. "Looking like America." A minority will always get a pass and get away with things socially and culturally that a White man could never get away with. Name the last time a Black man suffered any consequences for making a racist remark?

And I said 87% of JOURNALIST identified themselves as Democrat so "yes way".

You are a Black man and it is obvious to everyone except you that you see all things through the prism of race and will always favor minorities especially Blacks.

No, everything I said was accurate. As for "unofficial" affirmative, race is factored into favoring non-minority candidates all the time. I'm sure you're already pounding out a reply about how that doesn't happen, there's no proof, etc., but you obviously think it must be true if you think a majority of the media being dems automatically means media bias is fact.

And, yes, I know you said journalists- I brought up the comparison to a blue state because it's more likely that you would see that type of concentration in an area of the country than a profession. I looked into that statistic some more and it seems like you're talking about this (https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna19356115). They break down the number at the bottom of the page: Of an estimated 100,000 newsroom jobs, they located 300 donations. Of those 300, they were able to confirm 144 people. That's .001 of journalists, not all journalists. And, no, it doesn't even serve as a reasonable sample of the industry because many news companies don't allow political donations, while other companies didn't allow certain positions to donate. This data was collected between 2004-07. It wasn't a survey of political parties, it was records of donations. Those aren't the same things, specifically during those years, when a republican president with some of the worst approval ratings is obviously going to get fewer donations. Yeah, there's evidence that there's a higher percentage of dems working in news, but nowhere near 87%.

And, no, I don't see all things through a prism of race, but when I participate in DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RACE that are one-sided, preaching-to-the-choir wankfests, I speak from my perspective. I'm not sure why you think you've intuited something that I am very intentional and transparent about. 
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: ilalin on January 07, 2021, 06:01:25 PM
Schizophrenic king and Al the Dog's anus are in love.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: tom joad on January 07, 2021, 10:25:05 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErLR6UwXYAc2HKc?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 08, 2021, 01:09:25 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErLR6UwXYAc2HKc?format=jpg&name=large)

Cool but many Trump supporters are fans of the Rudy movie... so they are STILL waiting for that win that will put them over the top
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: epic is back on January 08, 2021, 08:39:01 AM
You gonna pay up when there is no event on the 20 th ?
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 08, 2021, 10:04:24 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErLR6UwXYAc2HKc?format=jpg&name=large)

Worse record than the Falcons.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: tom joad on January 11, 2021, 02:57:47 PM
another L came down the pike

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErfC2KeXIAAMv9Q?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 11, 2021, 04:30:03 PM
another L came down the pike

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErfC2KeXIAAMv9Q?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)



Noooo.  Stappppphht it.   Leave Bigly alone!!!!
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 11, 2021, 08:22:58 PM
You gonna pay up when there is no event on the 20 th ?

are you gonna pay up when Biden is sworn in on the 20th is the real question
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 12, 2021, 06:43:09 AM
are you gonna pay up when Biden is sworn in on the 20th is the real question

I'm kind of curious what his excuse is going to be then.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: epic is back on January 12, 2021, 07:15:25 AM
No event on the 20 th

If he isn’t sworn in on that date

Then what
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 12, 2021, 10:48:19 AM
No event on the 20 th

If he isn’t sworn in on that date

Then what

What do you mean no event?  He doesn't need an inaugration event.  He can do it in private or on tv only.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: epic is back on January 12, 2021, 11:21:59 AM
20 th was the day

If no action on that day then you lose betting on that date

Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 12, 2021, 11:39:59 AM
20 th was the day

If no action on that day then you lose betting on that date

I thought the bet was for Biden becoming President.  Not whether or not an inauguration occurs.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: jwb on January 12, 2021, 12:01:09 PM
You gonna pay up when there is no event on the 20 th ?
Biden can get sworn in as president in a room with a judge, there doesn’t have to be any inauguration.

LBJ became president aboard a Boeing 707.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 12, 2021, 12:02:59 PM


LBJ became president aboard a Boeing 707.


Likely how Kamala will be sworn in as well.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 12, 2021, 12:24:31 PM
20 th was the day

If no action on that day then you lose betting on that date

If I remember, the bet was, if Biden is sworn in as President on the 20th, I win. If Trump is sworn in as President on the 20th you win. So if neither are sworn in then I would say that voids the bet
 
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: epic is back on January 12, 2021, 12:49:22 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 12, 2021, 01:12:48 PM
Yes

What makes you think neither will be sworn in?
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Marvin Martian on January 12, 2021, 02:18:48 PM
Epic - please divulge how you think that the inauguration has ANY chance of not happening on the 20th?

I get it man - it’s wrong and the system failed - but there is zero chance that this doesn’t go down
Title: Re: Voter Fraud in favor of Biden
Post by: Straw Man on January 12, 2021, 02:40:23 PM
Epic - please divulge how you think that the inauguration has ANY chance of not happening on the 20th?

I get it man - it’s wrong and the system failed - but there is zero chance that this doesn’t go down

The only thing that failed was THE TRAITORS effort to convince others to commit fraud on his behalf to steal the election