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Title: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 29, 2012, 05:08:10 PM
PHOENIX, Ariz. – Poll after poll in recent months has indicated that Americans have a high level of concern over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, with one poll showing fully half of the nation wants Congress to investigate the question.

But reporters for the traditional media – networks, major newspapers, major news corporations and conglomerates – mostly have giggled when talk turns to the serious question of just what the U.S. Constitution requires of presidents.
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Nevertheless, media organizations from all political persuasions are seeking admittance to a news conference to be held by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz.

The event is tomorrow at 1 p.m. Mountain Standard Time in Phoenix, 3 p.m. Eastern, and will be live-streamed by WND.

The topic of discussion will be an investigation by Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse into concerns about Obama’s eligibility. It’s the first time an official law enforcement report has addressed many of the allegations about the presumptive 2012 Democratic nominee for president.

The issues include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements, questions about his use of a Connecticut Social Security number and the image of his purported birth certificate from Hawaii.

In addition to the live-streaming, WND will make available to the public, the same day by email, the official report distributed to media by Arpaio’s investigators. Those interested in receiving the report can sign up for the free service.

Top national media organizations have indicated their plans to attend, and bookings for radio and television reports are in the works. Expected are reporters from the Associated Press, Reuters, Univision, the Washington Times and NBC, CBS and ABC affiliates, as well statewide radio networks, among many others.

Because of the circumstances, a decision was made to hold the press conference at the sheriff’s training center on the outskirts of Phoenix, rather than at the downtown office.

The event is expected to draw protesters who object to the sheriff’s office review of allegations that Obama may attempt to use a fraudulent document to have his name placed on the 2012 presidential election ballot in Arizona.

Without releasing any details, Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”

He constituted a special five-member law enforcement posse last year to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the Obama birth certificate released to the public by the White House on April 27 might be a forgery.

The posse is made up of three former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys with law enforcement experience. Members have been examining evidence since September concerning Obama’s eligibility to be president under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires a president to be a natural-born citizen.

Among other issues, there also have been allegations of Obama’s use of a Social Security number that corresponds to a Connecticut address, even though the president apparently had no links there.

WND earlier reported a private investigation found that the Social Security number being used by Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not someone is authorized to work legally in the country.

Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement look at the allegations surrounding Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have examined it contend there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.

Arpaio previously told WND that when he launched his Cold Case Posse it was with the possibility that he would clear Obama.

He said it wasn’t an issue he could ignore, after 250 members of the tea party organization “came to me and asked their sheriff to investigate Obama and the birth certificate.”

SIGN UP NOW TO GET FREE COPY OF ARPAIO REPORT AS SOON AS IT IS DISTRIBUTED TO PRESS MARCH 1.

The WND TV live-streaming coverage of the news conference Thursday is possible through the support of the Western Center for Journalism.

The decisions in dozens of court cases over the last few years questioning Obama’s eligibility were typified by a recent decision in Georgia in which several individuals filed challenges to Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot and provided evidence to a hearing officer.

Even though Obama and his lawyer deliberately snubbed the case – the lawyer wrote the judge a letter in advance telling him Obama would not attend – the judge threw out the evidence presented by several attorneys and ruled in favor of Obama.

Similar ballot challenges are being filed in a long list of other states already.

The Arpaio investigators were given the case following a meeting held in the sheriff’s office Aug. 17, 2011, with tea party representatives from Surprise, Ariz., who presented a petition signed by more than 250 Maricopa County residents. The petitioners expressed concern that their voting rights could be irreparably compromised if Obama uses a forged birth certificate to be placed on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona or otherwise is found to be ineligible.

The tea party letter formally stated the following charge: “The Surprise Tea Party is concerned that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries.”

The posse was constituted as a 501(c)3 organization, designed to cost the people of Maricopa County nothing, while enabling people from around the country to contribute to its mission.

Those wishing to send a tax-deductible contribution directly to the Cold Case Posse may do so by mailing a check or money order to: MCSO Cold Case Posse, P.O. Box 74374, Phoenix, AZ 85087.

WND has reported that dozens of experts with varying ranges of competency who have looked at the situation believe the birth documentation image released by Obama last year is not genuine.

A flying-banner and billboard campaign to let people know about the questions regarding eligibility that was started by WND CEO and Editor Joseph Farah also has raised the public’s awareness of the situation.

Farah wrote recently that the underlying question to be determined is whether the U.S. Constitution remains the law of the land, or whether it has become “an archaic old document that needs to be amended.”

“At its core, it’s really quite simple: Does Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution dealing with who can serve as president of the United States simply mean that any citizen age 35 or older is eligible? If so, why did the founders use a different term altogether – ‘natural born citizen’? What is a ‘natural born citizen’? Is it anyone born in the United States? If so, why have candidates born outside the United States been deemed eligible? Do we owe it to America’s future to go back in history to determine what that term actually means?

“Until now, as hard as it may be to believe, no official vetting of Obama’s credentials has been done – not by the 50 secretaries of state who oversee elections, not by the Federal Elections Commission that administers the nation’s elections laws, not by the Electoral College, not by any judge in America, not by Congress, not by anyone,” he continued.

Even before the results become public, Farah said he’s confident there will be a significant impact.

“I strongly believe it could be a game-changer,” he said.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 29, 2012, 05:16:32 PM
PHOENIX, Ariz. – Poll after poll in recent months has indicated that Americans have a high level of concern over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, with one poll showing fully half of the nation wants Congress to investigate the question.

But reporters for the traditional media – networks, major newspapers, major news corporations and conglomerates – mostly have giggled when talk turns to the serious question of just what the U.S. Constitution requires of presidents.
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Nevertheless, media organizations from all political persuasions are seeking admittance to a news conference to be held by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz.

The event is tomorrow at 1 p.m. Mountain Standard Time in Phoenix, 3 p.m. Eastern, and will be live-streamed by WND.

The topic of discussion will be an investigation by Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse into concerns about Obama’s eligibility. It’s the first time an official law enforcement report has addressed many of the allegations about the presumptive 2012 Democratic nominee for president.

The issues include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements, questions about his use of a Connecticut Social Security number and the image of his purported birth certificate from Hawaii.

In addition to the live-streaming, WND will make available to the public, the same day by email, the official report distributed to media by Arpaio’s investigators. Those interested in receiving the report can sign up for the free service.

Top national media organizations have indicated their plans to attend, and bookings for radio and television reports are in the works. Expected are reporters from the Associated Press, Reuters, Univision, the Washington Times and NBC, CBS and ABC affiliates, as well statewide radio networks, among many others.

Because of the circumstances, a decision was made to hold the press conference at the sheriff’s training center on the outskirts of Phoenix, rather than at the downtown office.

The event is expected to draw protesters who object to the sheriff’s office review of allegations that Obama may attempt to use a fraudulent document to have his name placed on the 2012 presidential election ballot in Arizona.

Without releasing any details, Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”

He constituted a special five-member law enforcement posse last year to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the Obama birth certificate released to the public by the White House on April 27 might be a forgery.

The posse is made up of three former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys with law enforcement experience. Members have been examining evidence since September concerning Obama’s eligibility to be president under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires a president to be a natural-born citizen.

Among other issues, there also have been allegations of Obama’s use of a Social Security number that corresponds to a Connecticut address, even though the president apparently had no links there.

WND earlier reported a private investigation found that the Social Security number being used by Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not someone is authorized to work legally in the country.

Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement look at the allegations surrounding Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have examined it contend there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.

Arpaio previously told WND that when he launched his Cold Case Posse it was with the possibility that he would clear Obama.

He said it wasn’t an issue he could ignore, after 250 members of the tea party organization “came to me and asked their sheriff to investigate Obama and the birth certificate.”

SIGN UP NOW TO GET FREE COPY OF ARPAIO REPORT AS SOON AS IT IS DISTRIBUTED TO PRESS MARCH 1.

The WND TV live-streaming coverage of the news conference Thursday is possible through the support of the Western Center for Journalism.

The decisions in dozens of court cases over the last few years questioning Obama’s eligibility were typified by a recent decision in Georgia in which several individuals filed challenges to Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot and provided evidence to a hearing officer.

Even though Obama and his lawyer deliberately snubbed the case – the lawyer wrote the judge a letter in advance telling him Obama would not attend – the judge threw out the evidence presented by several attorneys and ruled in favor of Obama.

Similar ballot challenges are being filed in a long list of other states already.

The Arpaio investigators were given the case following a meeting held in the sheriff’s office Aug. 17, 2011, with tea party representatives from Surprise, Ariz., who presented a petition signed by more than 250 Maricopa County residents. The petitioners expressed concern that their voting rights could be irreparably compromised if Obama uses a forged birth certificate to be placed on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona or otherwise is found to be ineligible.

The tea party letter formally stated the following charge: “The Surprise Tea Party is concerned that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries.”

The posse was constituted as a 501(c)3 organization, designed to cost the people of Maricopa County nothing, while enabling people from around the country to contribute to its mission.

Those wishing to send a tax-deductible contribution directly to the Cold Case Posse may do so by mailing a check or money order to: MCSO Cold Case Posse, P.O. Box 74374, Phoenix, AZ 85087.

WND has reported that dozens of experts with varying ranges of competency who have looked at the situation believe the birth documentation image released by Obama last year is not genuine.

A flying-banner and billboard campaign to let people know about the questions regarding eligibility that was started by WND CEO and Editor Joseph Farah also has raised the public’s awareness of the situation.

Farah wrote recently that the underlying question to be determined is whether the U.S. Constitution remains the law of the land, or whether it has become “an archaic old document that needs to be amended.”

“At its core, it’s really quite simple: Does Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution dealing with who can serve as president of the United States simply mean that any citizen age 35 or older is eligible? If so, why did the founders use a different term altogether – ‘natural born citizen’? What is a ‘natural born citizen’? Is it anyone born in the United States? If so, why have candidates born outside the United States been deemed eligible? Do we owe it to America’s future to go back in history to determine what that term actually means?

“Until now, as hard as it may be to believe, no official vetting of Obama’s credentials has been done – not by the 50 secretaries of state who oversee elections, not by the Federal Elections Commission that administers the nation’s elections laws, not by the Electoral College, not by any judge in America, not by Congress, not by anyone,” he continued.

Even before the results become public, Farah said he’s confident there will be a significant impact.

“I strongly believe it could be a game-changer,” he said.


A Maricopia County Sheriff in Arizona investigating the President of The United States who was born in Hawaii???  Gee, I can't wait to hear this breaking news..... ::)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 29, 2012, 06:05:39 PM

A Maricopia County Sheriff in Arizona investigating the President of The United States who was born in Hawaii???  Gee, I can't wait to hear this breaking news..... ::)

At least you can bet it's going to be a legit investigation.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 29, 2012, 06:11:13 PM
LOL another repub idiot still chasing this lie, just a facade to hide their inner racism.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 29, 2012, 06:14:14 PM
LOL another repub idiot still chasing this lie, just a facade to hide their inner racism.



We'll see. So far the media has given him a pass and he has yet to prove all of the allegations. This loser won't even turn over his college transcripts. I hope Arpaio exposes this loser for what he really is....a loser.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on February 29, 2012, 06:20:12 PM
Does someone think that Sheriff Joe had more money to spend on an investigation than Donald Trump?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 29, 2012, 06:21:01 PM
We'll see. So far the media has given him a pass and he has yet to prove all of the allegations. This loser won't even turn over his college transcripts. I hope Arpaio exposes this loser for what he really is....a loser.

yes we will see another lame attempt, this sheriff joe guy is doing it just to get in the news again, he knows he has no chance at proving anything.  If Obama was not a US born citizen it would have been out by now and he already owned trump with his birth certificate, long form.

Only person winning is Obama, did you see his speech to the UAW?  That was the best speech given in the past year by any politician.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6l3N1qJ_ZY


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: abijahmaniaco on February 29, 2012, 06:28:01 PM
it's never made sense how he became president of the united states all the while withholding his birth certificate. wtf?!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on February 29, 2012, 06:32:52 PM
Two broke students get pregnant in Hawaii then decide to fly to africa to have the baby?

Why the fuck would they do that even if they had the money for the tickets?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: WOOO on February 29, 2012, 07:01:45 PM
PHOENIX, Ariz. – Poll after poll in recent months has indicated that Americans have a high level of concern over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, with one poll showing fully half of the nation wants Congress to investigate the question.

But reporters for the traditional media – networks, major newspapers, major news corporations and conglomerates – mostly have giggled when talk turns to the serious question of just what the U.S. Constitution requires of presidents.
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Nevertheless, media organizations from all political persuasions are seeking admittance to a news conference to be held by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz.

The event is tomorrow at 1 p.m. Mountain Standard Time in Phoenix, 3 p.m. Eastern, and will be live-streamed by WND.

The topic of discussion will be an investigation by Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse into concerns about Obama’s eligibility. It’s the first time an official law enforcement report has addressed many of the allegations about the presumptive 2012 Democratic nominee for president.

The issues include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements, questions about his use of a Connecticut Social Security number and the image of his purported birth certificate from Hawaii.

In addition to the live-streaming, WND will make available to the public, the same day by email, the official report distributed to media by Arpaio’s investigators. Those interested in receiving the report can sign up for the free service.

Top national media organizations have indicated their plans to attend, and bookings for radio and television reports are in the works. Expected are reporters from the Associated Press, Reuters, Univision, the Washington Times and NBC, CBS and ABC affiliates, as well statewide radio networks, among many others.

Because of the circumstances, a decision was made to hold the press conference at the sheriff’s training center on the outskirts of Phoenix, rather than at the downtown office.

The event is expected to draw protesters who object to the sheriff’s office review of allegations that Obama may attempt to use a fraudulent document to have his name placed on the 2012 presidential election ballot in Arizona.

Without releasing any details, Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”

He constituted a special five-member law enforcement posse last year to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the Obama birth certificate released to the public by the White House on April 27 might be a forgery.

The posse is made up of three former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys with law enforcement experience. Members have been examining evidence since September concerning Obama’s eligibility to be president under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires a president to be a natural-born citizen.

Among other issues, there also have been allegations of Obama’s use of a Social Security number that corresponds to a Connecticut address, even though the president apparently had no links there.

WND earlier reported a private investigation found that the Social Security number being used by Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not someone is authorized to work legally in the country.

Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement look at the allegations surrounding Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have examined it contend there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.

Arpaio previously told WND that when he launched his Cold Case Posse it was with the possibility that he would clear Obama.

He said it wasn’t an issue he could ignore, after 250 members of the tea party organization “came to me and asked their sheriff to investigate Obama and the birth certificate.”

SIGN UP NOW TO GET FREE COPY OF ARPAIO REPORT AS SOON AS IT IS DISTRIBUTED TO PRESS MARCH 1.

The WND TV live-streaming coverage of the news conference Thursday is possible through the support of the Western Center for Journalism.

The decisions in dozens of court cases over the last few years questioning Obama’s eligibility were typified by a recent decision in Georgia in which several individuals filed challenges to Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot and provided evidence to a hearing officer.

Even though Obama and his lawyer deliberately snubbed the case – the lawyer wrote the judge a letter in advance telling him Obama would not attend – the judge threw out the evidence presented by several attorneys and ruled in favor of Obama.

Similar ballot challenges are being filed in a long list of other states already.

The Arpaio investigators were given the case following a meeting held in the sheriff’s office Aug. 17, 2011, with tea party representatives from Surprise, Ariz., who presented a petition signed by more than 250 Maricopa County residents. The petitioners expressed concern that their voting rights could be irreparably compromised if Obama uses a forged birth certificate to be placed on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona or otherwise is found to be ineligible.

The tea party letter formally stated the following charge: “The Surprise Tea Party is concerned that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries.”

The posse was constituted as a 501(c)3 organization, designed to cost the people of Maricopa County nothing, while enabling people from around the country to contribute to its mission.

Those wishing to send a tax-deductible contribution directly to the Cold Case Posse may do so by mailing a check or money order to: MCSO Cold Case Posse, P.O. Box 74374, Phoenix, AZ 85087.

WND has reported that dozens of experts with varying ranges of competency who have looked at the situation believe the birth documentation image released by Obama last year is not genuine.

A flying-banner and billboard campaign to let people know about the questions regarding eligibility that was started by WND CEO and Editor Joseph Farah also has raised the public’s awareness of the situation.

Farah wrote recently that the underlying question to be determined is whether the U.S. Constitution remains the law of the land, or whether it has become “an archaic old document that needs to be amended.”

“At its core, it’s really quite simple: Does Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution dealing with who can serve as president of the United States simply mean that any citizen age 35 or older is eligible? If so, why did the founders use a different term altogether – ‘natural born citizen’? What is a ‘natural born citizen’? Is it anyone born in the United States? If so, why have candidates born outside the United States been deemed eligible? Do we owe it to America’s future to go back in history to determine what that term actually means?

“Until now, as hard as it may be to believe, no official vetting of Obama’s credentials has been done – not by the 50 secretaries of state who oversee elections, not by the Federal Elections Commission that administers the nation’s elections laws, not by the Electoral College, not by any judge in America, not by Congress, not by anyone,” he continued.

Even before the results become public, Farah said he’s confident there will be a significant impact.

“I strongly believe it could be a game-changer,” he said.



coach


you are a fucking moron


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Archer77 on February 29, 2012, 07:02:27 PM
The guy is a looney with a very low opinion of civil liberties


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Nomad on February 29, 2012, 07:03:25 PM
Way too many big banks and corporations are backing Obama, give it up already.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on February 29, 2012, 07:08:03 PM


coach


you are a fucking moron


I think it proves Ole Sheriff Joe has too much free time on his hand.

Waste of taxpayer money.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: calfzilla on February 29, 2012, 08:45:02 PM
Really eats up these repubs having a black man in office.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: delta9mda on February 29, 2012, 08:49:51 PM
Really eats up these repubs having a black man in office.

half honkey, all donkey


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 29, 2012, 08:56:15 PM
yes we will see another lame attempt, this sheriff joe guy is doing it just to get in the news again, he knows he has no chance at proving anything.  If Obama was not a US born citizen it would have been out by now and he already owned trump with his birth certificate, long form.

Only person winning is Obama, did you see his speech to the UAW?  That was the best speech given in the past year by any politician.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6l3N1qJ_ZY

LOL.   Only a communist ghetto thug looting savage cult obamunist supports stealing money like this. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 29, 2012, 08:59:54 PM
LOL.   Only a communist ghetto thug looting savage cult obamunist supports stealing money like this. 

it really eats you up to have a black president doesn't it you racist? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tommywishbone on February 29, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
sheriff joe is a well known drunk and pervert.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 29, 2012, 09:03:42 PM
it really eats you up to have a black president doesn't it you racist? 

Having a welfare thug, a communist tyrant, a traitor, and a zoo animal potus bothers me.   Correct.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 29, 2012, 09:13:49 PM
Having a welfare thug, a communist tyrant, a traitor, and a zoo animal potus bothers me.   Correct.

nice try to disguise your racism, but I'm not buying it  :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 29, 2012, 09:15:57 PM
Really eats up these repubs having a black man in office.

Haha, you really think this is a race thing? Got news for you. The liberals have the racist thing by ten fold.....are you kidding me?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: drflex on February 29, 2012, 09:19:04 PM
obama spent alot of money hiding his birth certificate because under race it says he's white. anhway there are way to many holes in his stories, and this sheriff joe is rasing a fuss about it because the dolly=bama slamed the book at arizonas illeagal immigrant laws.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 29, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
Haha, you really think this is a race thing? Got news for you. The liberals have the racist thing by ten fold.....are you kidding me?

Obama is gods punishment on this nation.   Only traitors, tyrants, terrorists, and welfare scum Ghettobama.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: The_Infidel on February 29, 2012, 11:28:20 PM
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if anything comes of this.  Is it true that his SSN didn't pass e-verify?  lol  WTF is he doing with a Connecticut SSN?  I knew Obama was a fraud but this is ridiculous. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: randy841 on February 29, 2012, 11:45:03 PM
This "Magic Negro" continues to get under the skin of white and black America -- more so white. The latter (blacks) of whom cannot idealize a less than 100% black American president.

If Obama was a Caucasian white American, no one would have question[ed] his eligibility to be president. Yet, these clowns continue their three ring circus.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 07:36:46 AM
The desperation that some go through to smear Obama is hysterical.

Tools.  hahaha


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 07:37:47 AM
Its coming out today at 3. 

Birthers will be vindicated. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 07:38:53 AM
is this sheriff still employed by the state?  or retired?

just wanna see if AZ tax dollars are being used for a "Cold Case Posse" to investigate birther stuff?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 07:42:32 AM
WND EXCLUSIVE
Media finally paying attention to eligibility?
See which major networks plan on covering Cold Case Posse results
Published: 13 hours ago




PHOENIX, Ariz. – Poll after poll in recent months has indicated that Americans have a high level of concern over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, with one poll showing fully half of the nation wants Congress to investigate the question.

But reporters for the traditional media – networks, major newspapers, major news corporations and conglomerates – mostly have giggled when talk turns to the serious question of just what the U.S. Constitution requires of presidents.


Nevertheless, media organizations from all political persuasions are seeking admittance to a news conference to be held by Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz.

The event is tomorrow at 1 p.m. Mountain Standard Time in Phoenix, 3 p.m. Eastern, and will be live-streamed by WND.

The topic of discussion will be an investigation by Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse into concerns about Obama’s eligibility. It’s the first time an official law enforcement report has addressed many of the allegations about the presumptive 2012 Democratic nominee for president.

The issues include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements, questions about his use of a Connecticut Social Security number and the image of his purported birth certificate from Hawaii.

In addition to the live-streaming, WND will make available to the public, the same day by email, the official report distributed to media by Arpaio’s investigators. Those interested in receiving the report can sign up for the free service.

Top national media organizations have indicated their plans to attend, and bookings for radio and television reports are in the works. Expected are reporters from the Associated Press, Reuters, Univision, the Washington Times and NBC, CBS and ABC affiliates, as well statewide radio networks, among many others.

Because of the circumstances, a decision was made to hold the press conference at the sheriff’s training center on the outskirts of Phoenix, rather than at the downtown office.

The event is expected to draw protesters who object to the sheriff’s office review of allegations that Obama may attempt to use a fraudulent document to have his name placed on the 2012 presidential election ballot in Arizona.

Without releasing any details, Arpaio has said the findings “could be a shock.”

He constituted a special five-member law enforcement posse last year to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the Obama birth certificate released to the public by the White House on April 27 might be a forgery.

The posse is made up of three former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys with law enforcement experience. Members have been examining evidence since September concerning Obama’s eligibility to be president under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires a president to be a natural-born citizen.

Among other issues, there also have been allegations of Obama’s use of a Social Security number that corresponds to a Connecticut address, even though the president apparently had no links there.

WND earlier reported a private investigation found that the Social Security number being used by Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not someone is authorized to work legally in the country.

Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement look at the allegations surrounding Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have examined it contend there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.

Arpaio previously told WND that when he launched his Cold Case Posse it was with the possibility that he would clear Obama.

He said it wasn’t an issue he could ignore, after 250 members of the tea party organization “came to me and asked their sheriff to investigate Obama and the birth certificate.”

SIGN UP NOW TO GET FREE COPY OF ARPAIO REPORT AS SOON AS IT IS DISTRIBUTED TO PRESS MARCH 1.

The WND TV live-streaming coverage of the news conference Thursday is possible through the support of the Western Center for Journalism.

The decisions in dozens of court cases over the last few years questioning Obama’s eligibility were typified by a recent decision in Georgia in which several individuals filed challenges to Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot and provided evidence to a hearing officer.

Even though Obama and his lawyer deliberately snubbed the case – the lawyer wrote the judge a letter in advance telling him Obama would not attend – the judge threw out the evidence presented by several attorneys and ruled in favor of Obama.

Similar ballot challenges are being filed in a long list of other states already.

The Arpaio investigators were given the case following a meeting held in the sheriff’s office Aug. 17, 2011, with tea party representatives from Surprise, Ariz., who presented a petition signed by more than 250 Maricopa County residents. The petitioners expressed concern that their voting rights could be irreparably compromised if Obama uses a forged birth certificate to be placed on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona or otherwise is found to be ineligible.

The tea party letter formally stated the following charge: “The Surprise Tea Party is concerned that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries.”

The posse was constituted as a 501(c)3 organization, designed to cost the people of Maricopa County nothing, while enabling people from around the country to contribute to its mission.

Those wishing to send a tax-deductible contribution directly to the Cold Case Posse may do so by mailing a check or money order to: MCSO Cold Case Posse, P.O. Box 74374, Phoenix, AZ 85087.

WND has reported that dozens of experts with varying ranges of competency who have looked at the situation believe the birth documentation image released by Obama last year is not genuine.

A flying-banner and billboard campaign to let people know about the questions regarding eligibility that was started by WND CEO and Editor Joseph Farah also has raised the public’s awareness of the situation.

Farah wrote recently that the underlying question to be determined is whether the U.S. Constitution remains the law of the land, or whether it has become “an archaic old document that needs to be amended.”

“At its core, it’s really quite simple: Does Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution dealing with who can serve as president of the United States simply mean that any citizen age 35 or older is eligible? If so, why did the founders use a different term altogether – ‘natural born citizen’? What is a ‘natural born citizen’? Is it anyone born in the United States? If so, why have candidates born outside the United States been deemed eligible? Do we owe it to America’s future to go back in history to determine what that term actually means?

“Until now, as hard as it may be to believe, no official vetting of Obama’s credentials has been done – not by the 50 secretaries of state who oversee elections, not by the Federal Elections Commission that administers the nation’s elections laws, not by the Electoral College, not by any judge in America, not by Congress, not by anyone,” he continued.

Even before the results become public, Farah said he’s confident there will be a significant impact.

“I strongly believe it could be a game-changer,” he said.


________________________ ________________


Sheriff Joe better not have dinner w Ayeres. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 08:28:41 AM
Its coming out today at 3. 

Birthers will be vindicated. 


And if it doesn't vindicate the loonies, then what?

Wait until next week for new material?

 ::)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
http://www.art2superpac.com/joe.html


Direct feed.   15 minutes to go for the birther panel. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 11:57:57 AM
http://www.art2superpac.com/joe.html


This one works.   


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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE



LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLI IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVV VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEE EEEEE



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 12:12:57 PM
awesome!!!!!!  this is getting good.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:13:33 PM
http://www.abc15.com/generic/news/live-video


fucking wow! ! ! ! !


COLD CASE POSSE DESTROYING GHETTOBAMA!!!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
This is awesome ! !  ! !


Obama committed fraud and perjury  - GET THE LEG IRONS READY!   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 12:19:30 PM
have they shown another long-form birth cert from 1963 in comparison?

right now, they're showing how smart software is.  no smoking gun yet.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2012, 12:20:23 PM
have they shown another long-form birth cert from 1963 in comparison?

right now, they're showing how smart software is.  no smoking gun yet.

So far, this is basically everything that has already been on youtube.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
This is guy is going slow and methodically.    There is ZERO doubt now that this thing is a complete fabrication of Obama! 


GET THE LEG IRONS READY! 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:27:40 PM
Wow - this is like a disection! 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 12:29:33 PM
So far, this is basically everything that has already been on youtube.

true.  nothing new yet.  maybe something new is coming up.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:30:30 PM
true.  nothing new yet.  maybe something new is coming up.  


yeah, but other than you tubers, now we have legit LE confirming that this whole thing is a fraud.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
IMO, the way to catch it is to find the 5 before and 5 after, from hawaii office.

then you compare them.

all he's saying here is that the SCAN the white house produced plays nice in photoshop.  THey don't have the original.  They're STARTING with a PDF then freaking out because they can isolate elements.

No smoking gun here - although I'm pretty sure it's a fake as well.  They're proving a PDF does this and that.  IF they had the ORIGINAL and did this, it'd be a smoking gun.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:32:24 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2012, 12:32:35 PM
yeah, but other than you tubers, now we have legit LE confirming that this whole thing is a fraud.   

You're saying that the Legal Entity that Joe hired is more legit than the legal entity of the state of Hawaii?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:34:26 PM
You're saying that the Legal Entity that Joe hired is more legit than the legal entity of the state of Hawaii?



Yes. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 12:34:51 PM
You're saying that the Legal Entity that Joe hired is more legit than the legal entity of the state of Hawaii?

Of course he is. He is that stupid to believe so.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:35:25 PM
Of course he is. He is that stupid to believe so.

 ::)  ::)


Obama just got disessected on the operating table.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 12:36:36 PM
Really?  When does he resign?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:37:06 PM
Wow!!!!!   Now obama screwed w the National Archives! ! !



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 12:37:50 PM
So when does he resign or get impeached?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:38:00 PM
Booommmmm - -   SS # is a fake too! ! ! ! !


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:39:01 PM
I never saw this about the stamp!!!!    Wow!   Thugbama is a total fraud.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 12:39:26 PM
see, that looks BAD for obama.  deleting large chunks of who flew into the USA that day.  unreal.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 12:39:40 PM
So when does he resign or get impeached?

x2


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:41:10 PM
They just completely destroyed obama fake SS card!!!!


GET THE LEG IRONS READY!!!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2012, 12:41:38 PM
Still waiting on that thing I haven't seen on youtube yet.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 12:41:53 PM
So when does he resign or get impeached?

x3


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:43:03 PM
Still waiting on that thing I haven't seen on youtube yet.

I never saw the thing about the stamp and the National Archives thing is a total fraud by Obama!   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2012, 12:44:13 PM
I never saw the thing about the stamp and the National Archives thing is a total fraud by Obama!   
These clowns have access to determine that the national archives were tampered with?

Who from the National Archives is here to corroborate that insinuation?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 12:48:16 PM
what did they say about calling brietbart yesterday for an interview?  his last interview?

CTers are going to have a field day with that one.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
So when does he resign or get impeached?

x4


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
They proved without a doubt that Obama's SS number and app is a complete fake.   


Also - the National Archives thing is very very very damning and is definte circumstantial evidence of tampering with the files.     


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
Sheriff Arpaio: Obama birth certificate a ‘forgery’
By Stephen Dinan
-
The Washington Times
Updated: 3:08 p.m. on Thursday, March 1, 2012




PHOENIX — Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Thursday he suspects the birth certificate President Obama released last year is a forgery — and also raised questions about the authenticity of the president’s selective service card.

“Based on all of the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good faith report to you that these documents are authentic,” Sheriff Arpaio said. “My investigators believe that the long-form birth certificate was manufactured electronically and that it did not originate in paper format as claimed by the White House.”

Sheriff Arpaio said at least two crimes could have been committed in his view through the forgery. He said he is not accusing Mr. Obama of crimes, but said “there remain a lot of questions which beg for answers.”

He released a 10-page report detailing what his investigators said were “inconsistencies” in the text characters of the birth certificate image the White House released, and also questioned details of the computer file itself.

Some of those claims had earlier been raised on the Internet as well, and the White House has rejected them.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

It released the long-form certificate last year after repeated questions were raised by conservative activists and conspiracy-theory websites questioning the authenticity of the short-form certificate Mr. Obama released during the 2008 campaign.

The Justice Department has accused Sheriff Arpaio of civil rights abuses, but he said he began his investigation in August 2011 after tea party members from Surprise, Ariz., a town within Maricopa County, signed a petition challenging the certificate.

Sheriff Arpaio detailed former law enforcement officers who constitute what he called his “cold case posse” to do the investigation. He said no taxpayer dollars were spent.

He was joined in his press conference by Jerome Corsi, an author who has been critical of Mr. Obama. He was also one of those who took a critical look at Sen. John Kerry’s military service during his 2004 presidential bid.

Sheriff Arpaio said he went into the investigation with an open mind, and would have been happy to clear Mr. Obama.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:58:03 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


BILL AYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



OBAMA IS A FOREGIN STUDENT - FED EMPLOYEE WILL TESTIFY TO IT!!!!!!!!!!! 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
Breitbart definately was murdered.  i bet the tapes he has of obama and ayers from the 1980's go to this. 


FFFUUUCCCKKKIIINNNGGG WWOOOOWWWWW


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 01:01:09 PM
'we have a person of interest who did the forgery' = LOL

total LEO fishing to try to get someone to turn themselves in.

today's little slideshow demonstrated there is some shady shit going on.  i think we all knew that before.  but it's not a smoking gun.  he won't be challenged for 2nd term on what they have.  sorry, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 01:03:32 PM
'we have a person of interest who did the forgery' = LOL

total LEO fishing to try to get someone to turn themselves in.

today's little slideshow demonstrated there is some shady shit going on.  i think we all knew that before.  but it's not a smoking gun.  he won't be challenged for 2nd term on what they have.  sorry, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. 


240 - you know deep down inside conclusively that obama is a total fraud and tghe BC is fake. 


I can't wait till the witness comes forward to testify that Bill Ayeres told him obama was a foregin student and he was helping him get education. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Shockwave on March 01, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
'we have a person of interest who did the forgery' = LOL

total LEO fishing to try to get someone to turn themselves in.

today's little slideshow demonstrated there is some shady shit going on.  i think we all knew that before.  but it's not a smoking gun.  he won't be challenged for 2nd term on what they have.  sorry, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove.  
Too true, and if there is one thing you can count on, its guys as high up as Obama NEVER get held accountable for their actions.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 01:08:02 PM
HOLY SHIT - THEY KNOW WHERE THE COMUPTER IS THAT GENERATED THIS DOCUMENT!!!! 

They have a lot more than they are letting on. 




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
Leftist media in total meltdown    LOL


Sheriff Joe destroying these assholes.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2012, 01:11:23 PM
HOLY SHIT - THEY KNOW WHERE THE COMUPTER IS THAT GENERATED THIS DOCUMENT!!!! 

They have a lot more than they are letting on. 




HAHAHA!!!

Sure they do.

That's why they don't have it with them.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2012, 01:11:55 PM
to me, that sounded like a bluff.  if they knew the guys name, they would name it.   they're trying to scare him.  "Look what happened to briet after he talked to us... you'd better come fwd".

Trying to smoke him out.  if they knew the computer, they would have done 10 extra steps - naming it, who did it, who paid the guy, etc.  They wouldn't just find out who did it - then just stop there.  they are way too thorough.  They'd tell us who the guy is, who paid him, all that.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 01:13:26 PM
to me, that sounded like a bluff.  if they knew the guys name, they would name it.   they're trying to scare him.  "Look what happened to briet after he talked to us... you'd better come fwd".

Trying to smoke him out.  if they knew the computer, they would have done 10 extra steps - naming it, who did it, who paid the guy, etc.  They wouldn't just find out who did it - then just stop there.  they are way too thorough.  They'd tell us who the guy is, who paid him, all that.

I think they are holding back a little bit.

Also - cant wait till the Federal employee comes forward about Ayeres tellim him obama was a foregin student he was helping.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
This guy is going to prove the news announcement was a fraud too!   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 01:29:55 PM
“We have evidence and can prove that birth announcements in HI listed foriegn born babies and in 3 cases listed births of children that were adopted and were already living and breathing for years.”


LISTEN AND LEARN FOLKS   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUEzSI3Sh_A









Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 01:58:55 PM
visit http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse-probable-cause-obama-certificate-a-fraud/
 
CERTIFIGATE
Sheriff Joe: 'Probable cause' Obama certificate a fraud
Asking Arpaio to elevate to criminal probe, person of interest ID'd



Published: 2 hours ago NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” WND plans to have the entire event available in 15-minute increments beginning Friday morning at this online location.

PHOENIX – An investigative “Cold Case Posse” launched six months ago by “America’s toughest sheriff” – Joe Arpaio of Arizona’s Maricopa County – has concluded there is probable cause that the document released by the White House last year as President Obama’s birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery.

The investigative team has asked Arpaio, who is at a news conference in Phoenix live-streamed by WND TV that began at 3 p.m. Eastern time, to elevate the investigation to a criminal probe that will make available the resources of his Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.

The posse says it has identified at least one person of interest in the alleged forgery of Obama’s birth certificate.

Arapaio, known for his strict enforcement of immigration laws, commissioned the investigative team after local citizens presented him with a petition expressing concern that Obama might not be eligible for Arizona’s presidential ballot.

In addition to the live-streaming, WND is making available to the public a report distributed to media today by Arpaio’s investigators.

GET A FREE COPY OF THE ARPAIO REPORT THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO PRESS TODAY

The posse, comprised of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, has interviewed dozens of witnesses and examined hundreds of documents. It also has taken numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.

Mike Zullo, Arpaio’s lead investigator, said his team believes the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in a systematic effort to hide from public inspection any original 1961 birth records it may have in its possession.

“Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have,” Zullo said.

The investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.

The investigation was launched after 250 members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, presented a signed petition to Arpaio in August 2011 asking him to undertake the investigation.

The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was used to place Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.

Arpaio believes a congressional investigation might be warranted and has asked that any information relevant to the investigation held by other law enforcement agencies be forwarded to his office.

The Cold Case Posse advised Arpaio that they believe forgers committed two crimes. First, they say it appears the White House fraudulently created a forgery that it characterized as an officially produced governmental birth record. Second, the White House fraudulently presented to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery represented as “proof positive” of President Obama’s authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.

“A continuing investigation is needed to identify the identity of the person or persons involved in creating the alleged birth certificate forgery and to determine who, if anyone, in the White House or the state of Hawaii may have authorized the forgery,” Arpaio said.

Among the evidence released at the press conference are five videos – which can be seen at the end of this article – to demonstrate why the Obama long-form birth certificate is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery.

The videos consist of step-by-step computer demonstrations using a control document. They display the testing used by the investigators to examine various claims made by supporters of the April 27 document.

The investigators contend the videos illustrate their conclusion that the features and anomalies observed on the Obama long-form birth certificate were inconsistent with features produced when a paper document is scanned, even if the scan is enhanced by Optical Character Recognition, OCR, and optimized.

Additionally, the posse says, the videos demonstrate that the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar’s name stamp and the registrar’s date stamp were computer-generated images imported into an electronic document, as opposed to rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document.

“That we were able to cast reasonable suspicions on the authenticity of the registrar stamps was especially disturbing, since these stamp imprints are designed to provide government authentication to the document itself,” Zullo said, emphasizing that if the registrar stamps are forgeries, the document itself is likely a forgery.

The investigators also chronicled a series of allegedly inconsistent and misleading representations that various Hawaii government officials have made over the past five years regarding any original birth records held by the Hawaii Department of Health.

“As I said at the beginning of the investigation, the president can put all this to rest quite easily,” Arpaio said. “All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession.”

Arpaio emphasized that the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm and electronic records to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records.

The sheriff said the president should also authorize Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Hospital, the birth hospital listed on the Obama long-form birth certificate, to release any  hospital patient records for Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, his mother, and for the newly born Barack Obama, to provide corroboration for the records held in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.

“Absent the authentic Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as he and the White House have consistently asserted,” Zullo said.

“In fact, absent the authentication of Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other proof he was born anywhere within the United States.”

In addition, investigators say they have developed credible evidence that President Obama’s Selective Service card was a forgery, based on an examination of the postal date stamp on the document. Also, records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama’s birth.

Videos connected to the investigation:

1. Introduction – Regular Scan:


2. Layers, Stamp & Noise


3. OCR Theory


4. Optimization


5. Conclusion


6. Selective Service


Previous stories:

What does law say about Obama’s eligibility?

Alinsky-style leftist ramps up effort to oust Sheriff Joe

100,000 line up to back Sheriff Joe

Obama backer arrested for death threats against Sheriff Joe

Justice Department blinks in battle against Sheriff Joe

Anti-Arpaio protesters ousted from meeting

Another protest against Sheriff Joe fails

Obama’s harassment of Sheriff Joe

‘Resign now’ protest against Sheriff Joe fizzles

Sheriff Joe targeted for ouster

Sheriff Joe ‘suspicious’ of motive behind Obama attacks

Sheriff Joe to Obama: I’ll keep doing my job

Arpaio gets death threats over Obama investigation

Sheriff Joe on Obama eligibility probe: ‘Where there’s smoke … ‘



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Oly15 on March 01, 2012, 01:59:07 PM
“We have evidence and can prove that birth announcements in HI listed foriegn born babies and in 3 cases listed births of children that were adopted and were already living and breathing for years.”


LISTEN AND LEARN FOLKS   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUEzSI3Sh_A


Please keep us updated







Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 02:03:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID_KfcmG9gs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S40WKxKSlHc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qDzMYWTjds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQUGwEZ-xDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgTZUVpb3dk

BOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!

This is a new fraud I never new about with obama.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAM3hRI8_Y


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 03:27:09 PM
OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE DEEMED A FRAUD BY SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO'S COLD CASE POSSE
WebToday | 3-1-12 | Jerry McGlothlin

Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:55:37 PM by geraldmcg

Live streaming is currently underway of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's news conference that has concluded that Barack Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate was a fraud! Sheriff Arpaio's cold posse investigators presented a visual side by side comparison of Obama's purported Long Form Birth Certificate with the investigators own recreation of an Optical Character Recognition (OCR) enhancement to see if there were any possibility of the birth certificate being legitimate. However it become clear that the long form birth certificate was a fraud.

The register stamp and date stamp were a safety feature to verify the authenticity of the document. But the fact that those stamps were imported from an outside source shows with certainty that it was fraudulent since those 'safety verification stamps were completely moveable to any point of the document. No original birth certificate circa the date of Obama's birth could possibly have had such movable computerized elements.

After concluding conclusively that that Obama's birth certificate was a fraud, then the investigators moved on to the issue of Obama's place of birth, investigating allegations that Obama was born abroad. They said that when they went through the airline travel documents for the time of his birth had a strategic missing number of documents during the time of Obama's alleged birth, indicative of someone removing records to impede an investigation.

The investigators then showed Obama's purported Selective Service card was fraudulent in that there was a collage of pica date stamps and the investigators were able to recreate the counterfeiting process that was identical to the counterfeited Selective Service card. The lead investigator concluded, "The document is fake. The representations of the document are fake," adding that a person of interest is being investigated who may have administrated this colossal fraud.

Then Dr. Jerome Corsi was introduced and is in the process of making his presentation at the time of this WebToday.tv upload.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 03:27:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrg6z489K3Q


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on March 01, 2012, 03:47:33 PM
I watched the whole fox news show today to see this story headline, it wasn't even mentioned on the 1 hour program  :-[  First time I watched the whole fox program, I am disappointed in them, why did they not report this?

It's not on their site either.  http://www.foxnews.com/

Cnn, or msnbc aren't covering it either, why is this?  No networks in USA talked about this story today?

RIP Andrew Breitbart 1969 – 2012


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2012, 06:25:52 PM
LOL.  Look at this dickhead trying to spread his desperation and hatred to other people.

Shit ain't gonna happen.  Tomorrow Obama will still be POTUS.  Just like he will be until 2016.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 06:26:48 PM
Again - refute the evidence. You gay stalking jack!   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2012, 06:36:24 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/83413171/Sherriff-Joe-Arpaio-Report-on-Obama-Birth-Certificate?secret_password=1qtj1l4jqrsulw9fp1q4



Boo op mm mm!!!!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 06:22:49 AM
Arpaio: Obama's birth certificate was doctored
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Friday, March 2, 2012 | Howard Fischer



Friday, March 02, 2012 9:09:17 AM by Brown Deer

PHOENIX - Just when it seemed the Barack Obama citizenship flap had faded into the background, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has turned the spotlight back on.

On Thursday Arpaio charged the birth certificate Obama says proves he is a U.S. citizen is a fraud, contending a forensic examination of the electronic document posted last year by the White House proves that it was not simply scanned into a file but actually put together in several pieces.

Mike Zullo, head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse who headed the investigation, said the inconsistencies in the document cannot be explained away by claims it was optimized or had been scanned with optical character-recognition software.

Zullo also said a separate examination proves Obama's 1980 Selective Service registration also is a fake.

The White House, which thought the issue had been put to sleep with the posting of the birth certificate, had no comment.

While saying the evidence proves that a crime was committed, Arpaio was careful not to implicate the president.

"I'm not accusing anyone of anything until we find out who may have committed these alleged crimes over this birth certificate and the Selective Service card," Arpaio said.

Arpaio brushed aside a question of why he was able to find such evidence when no one else in the country has. The sheriff said he probably was the only one who bothered to investigate in detail.

Zullo also said the fact the Honolulu newspaper had a birth announcement at the time proves nothing, saying the newspaper accepted such messages without requiring proof the person actually had been born in the state.

And Zullo insisted Arpaio has jurisdiction.


(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2012, 06:26:56 AM
Birther 
 A racist sore loser who can't deal with having a black president so they make up absurd conspiracy theories about Barack Obama's birth certificate.

These nutjobs actually believe that there has been a conspiracy going back 48 years to fake Barack Obama's birth certificate. Apparently they had a crystal ball and knew that this black child (born in the days of segregation) would someday run for President.
Just ignore that racist nutjob foaming at the mouth. He's a right wing "birther" 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 06:50:30 AM
BBBBBOOOOMMMMM


Watch and learn.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPabF7yd7kk



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 02, 2012, 06:54:58 AM
Birther 
 A racist sore loser who can't deal with having a black president so they make up absurd conspiracy theories about Barack Obama's birth certificate.

These nutjobs actually believe that there has been a conspiracy going back 48 years to fake Barack Obama's birth certificate. Apparently they had a crystal ball and knew that this black child (born in the days of segregation) would someday run for President.
Just ignore that racist nutjob foaming at the mouth. He's a right wing "birther" 

Plus if they knew he was destined to be the POTUS why the hell would his broke, 18 year old mother leave the country in the first place to give birth?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 06:56:41 AM
Plus if they knew he was destined to be the POTUS why the hell would his broke, 18 year old mother leave the country in the first place to give birth?

 ::)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 02, 2012, 07:02:23 AM
::)
That is the straw that breaks your back you imbecile.

For him to be born outside Hawaii you have to also believe his parents never even met there. Is that what you believe?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2012, 07:04:10 AM
Sheriff Joe ran out of brown people to harass in his state so he's off to washington  :D :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:09:33 AM
That is the straw that breaks your back you imbecile.

For him to be born outside Hawaii you have to also believe his parents never even met there. Is that what you believe?

Not at all - you clearly have no understanding of anything that occurred.  None at all.   There are many reasons to register obama in HI that had nothing to do w being potus. 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2012, 07:12:58 AM
Not at all - you clearly have no understanding of anything that occurred.  None at all.   There are many reasons to register obama in HI that had nothing to do w being potus. 



This isn't getting much press, as expected.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 02, 2012, 07:15:22 AM
Not at all - you clearly have no understanding of anything that occurred.  None at all.   There are many reasons to register obama in HI that had nothing to do w being potus. 


Besides the fact he his mother lived there?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:15:28 AM
This isn't getting much press, as expected.

They are scared to death of actually dealing w this since Sheriff Joe presented clear evidence of a crime being committed.  

Watch the presser - its clear as day, especially the SS Registration.   BUSTED!  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:16:44 AM
Besides the fact he his mother lived there?

No - it was his grandparents that had tot ake responsibility since his communist womanzing father was broke and the mother was a whoring hippie running all over the world. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 02, 2012, 07:18:51 AM
No - it was his grandparents that had tot ake responsibility since his communist womanzing father was broke and the mother was a whoring hippie running all over the world. 
So she got pregnant then decided to leave the country with no means of support?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2012, 07:19:49 AM
the dumbing down of the republican party


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:20:51 AM
So she got pregnant then decided to leave the country with no means of support?

Yes!!!  She then hooked up with Lolo Soetoro who adopted obama (we think) and moved them to indonesia where he attended muslim schools. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:25:19 AM
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available"
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6.. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available
8. Your Illinois State Senate records -- Not available
9. Law practice client list -- Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
12. Record of your baptism -- Not available
13. Why were you getting "foreign student aid" as a college student?
14.. Which countries "passport" did you have when you visited Pakistan in 1981?
 
Oh and one more thing Mr. President, I can't seem to find any articles you published as editor of the Harvard Law Review, or as a Professor at the University of Chicago. Can you explain that to me, Sir?




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 07:28:23 AM
Hahahahaa  Dumb ass birthers hoping this validates their delusions.

It must suck being tortured by this so badly.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:30:16 AM
Hahahahaa  Dumb ass birthers hoping this validates their delusions.

It must suck being tortured by this so badly.

Please refute the evidence presented in the presser. 

When doing so - please avoid the terms, bush, birther, palin, cain, teapublican, rush, beck, hannity, etc and please deal w the evidence. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2012, 07:33:00 AM
sorry 33, but lack of evidence does no = evidence of a crime.

trust me, I have watched over the years as the anomalies, disappearing documents, outright lies, changed stories, and other oddities added up about 911.  Anyone with a brain knows the official story is so full of shit.

But, lacking any evidence of anything that is really a smoking gun, all you can do is shrug and move on dude. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2012, 07:33:32 AM
Please refute the evidence presented in the presser. 

When doing so - please avoid the terms, bush, birther, palin, cain, teapublican, rush, beck, hannity, etc and please deal w the evidence. 

The only way you'll get this is if you promise to send him a picture of your nuts.   Go get a camera.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 07:35:18 AM
LOL at this loser still clinging to it.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:35:50 AM
sorry 33, but lack of evidence does no = evidence of a crime.

trust me, I have watched over the years as the anomalies, disappearing documents, outright lies, changed stories, and other oddities added up about 911.  Anyone with a brain knows the official story is so full of shit.

But, lacking any evidence of anything that is really a smoking gun, all you can do is shrug and move on dude. 

????   What do you mean lack of evidence - they presented clear irrefutable proof yesterday, especially on the SS # .   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 07:36:31 AM
The only way you'll get this is if you promise to send him a picture of your nuts.   Go get a camera.

That is going to be impossible.  Nothing in any species that has testicles whines and cries as much as this little board sissy does.

Try again, Dumbo.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2012, 07:56:06 AM
????   What do you mean lack of evidence - they presented clear irrefutable proof yesterday, especially on the SS # .   

it's not evidence he was born in Kenya.   it could be any number of things.  It could be obama purposefully hiding those records JUST to get a 2012 GOP candidate to get all birther - THEN the records are magically 'found' and obama isn't on any flight manifest.  Imagine that. 

Trump walked right into it.... Trump's on the news friday night basking in his pwning of obama... then sat night it's "oh lookie, my long form birth certificate" at the white house press corps dinner.  Then "oh lookie, I just killed OBL" the next day. 

IMO, obama could just be planting a trap for the halpess to walk into.  Trump had the money and star power to beat obama - but obama made him look the fool on the birther issue.  Could easily be the same thing here.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:58:21 AM
it's not evidence he was born in Kenya.   it could be any number of things.  It could be obama purposefully hiding those records JUST to get a 2012 GOP candidate to get all birther - THEN the records are magically 'found' and obama isn't on any flight manifest.  Imagine that. 

Trump walked right into it.... Trump's on the news friday night basking in his pwning of obama... then sat night it's "oh lookie, my long form birth certificate" at the white house press corps dinner.  Then "oh lookie, I just killed OBL" the next day. 

IMO, obama could just be planting a trap for the halpess to walk into.  Trump had the money and star power to beat obama - but obama made him look the fool on the birther issue.  Could easily be the same thing here.



yawn - they were not trying to prove he was born in Kenya, only that the docs were fake and forgeries, which they did, conclusively. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 08:02:09 AM


yawn - they were not trying to prove he was born in Kenya, only that the docs were fake and forgeries, which they did, conclusively. 

How did they do that?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:04:44 AM
How did they do that?

I posted the videos in this thread.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2012, 08:09:31 AM


yawn - they were not trying to prove he was born in Kenya, only that the docs were fake and forgeries, which they did, conclusively. 

no, they did not prove it.

they proved the document in PDF format they recieved was easily editable with software.
they proved there are missing flight records which obama MIGHT be on as an infant.
they proved he used diff SS numbers, and there are reasons ppl do that - crime, intelligence jobs, etc.

NONE of these things show baby obama with his mama in a kenyan hospital high fiving the nurse and doctor.

You've cast doubt on the original story, but you haven't proven anything, much less "conslusively".  Jeez, in what court would this prove 'conclusively' that he was born there?

Sorry, but i'm a birther too, and i'm sure sheriff joe is 100% correct - but this doesn't PROVE it.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 08:11:02 AM
That 1hour and 20 minute video that shows a news conference playing another video?

I watched like 2 minutes if it.   I am not going to invest  that amount of time on one of your videos only to find out its total crap like usual.  The part I saw was about layers in photoshop which is, as I know, very easy to fake and would be too easy to cover up by saving as a jpeg or ,  scanning and saving as a tiff/jpeg.  

So is there some sort of summary of their findings?  Or is every article an opinion laced piece?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 08:12:47 AM
no, they did not prove it.

they proved the document in PDF format they recieved was easily editable with software.
they proved there are missing flight records which obama MIGHT be on as an infant.
they proved he used diff SS numbers, and there are reasons ppl do that - crime, intelligence jobs, etc.

NONE of these things show baby obama with his mama in a kenyan hospital high fiving the nurse and doctor.

You've cast doubt on the original story, but you haven't proven anything, much less "conslusively".  Jeez, in what court would this prove 'conclusively' that he was born there?

Sorry, but i'm a birther too, and i'm sure sheriff joe is 100% correct - but this doesn't PROVE it.


The crazy part about this 240......  He's probably going to get reelected anyway lol.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2012, 08:14:10 AM
oz,

they didn't do all those tests on the original.  they recieved an outputted PDF file...

could have been optimized for size, could have been screenshotted, could have been pasted into a word document then moved to an editor program for exporting, etc.

The main argument on the BC seems to be "this plays nicely in photoshop, you can edit all the parts" - but they don't konw what was done to the document before they got it.  Photoshop/PDF is very smart.  It senses letters and makes them editable.  

IF they had obamas in their hand,
and they had another actual one in their hand from the same week,
and THEN there were all these differences, I'd believe that.  BUt this?  Analyzing a scan of something - very inexact science.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2012, 08:14:59 AM

The crazy part about this 240......  He's probably going to get reelected anyway lol.

middle of a great depression, countless wars, crazy UE... and he's at 59.3% on intrade. 
Yes, he probably will. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 08:15:57 AM
PS all PDF files are easily editable in photoshop.   You can even make multiple copies stack them on top of one another then take parts of each copy then save as a tiff file keeping the layers then open it back up and claim it was that way to begin with.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 08:18:14 AM
oz,

they didn't do all those tests on the original.  they recieved an outputted PDF file...

could have been optimized for size, could have been screenshotted, could have been pasted into a word document then moved to an editor program for exporting, etc.

The main argument on the BC seems to be "this plays nicely in photoshop, you can edit all the parts" - but they don't konw what was done to the document before they got it.  Photoshop/PDF is very smart.  It senses letters and makes them editable.  

IF they had obamas in their hand,
and they had another actual one in their hand from the same week,
and THEN there were all these differences, I'd believe that.  BUt this?  Analyzing a scan of something - very inexact science.  


Yeah seems like a bunch of garbage so far.  Not that I wouldn't welcome a way to get OB out of the election.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 08:18:44 AM
It was not proven.

Saying it was only highlights the feverish delusions and hatred that occupy one's mind.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 08:19:56 AM

Yeah seems like a bunch of garbage so far.  Not that I wouldn't welcome a way to get OB out of the election.

Oh don't worry... on theory has him resigning and seeking a pardon before the election.

If the common sense and logic in believing that scenario doesn't pan out... well there is always the Mayan Calendar Plan that says the world will end this year.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on March 02, 2012, 08:21:37 AM
you are so all distracted by this outdated issue that is going to go nowhere, you don't realize your party doesn't have a candidate to date to even remotely challenge Obama in the general election, you should be worried about that, not this, this is like beating a dead horse.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2012, 08:25:41 AM
you are so all distracted by this outdated issue that is going to go nowhere, you don't realize your party doesn't have a candidate to date to even remotely challenge Obama in the general election, you should be worried about that, not this, this is like beating a dead horse.




the dumbing down of the repub party


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 02, 2012, 08:31:50 AM
Yes!!!  She then hooked up with Lolo Soetoro who adopted obama (we think) and moved them to indonesia where he attended muslim schools. 
So you are saying Soetoro never attend the university of Hawaii from September 1962 until 1966?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:36:19 AM
oz,

they didn't do all those tests on the original.  they recieved an outputted PDF file...

could have been optimized for size, could have been screenshotted, could have been pasted into a word document then moved to an editor program for exporting, etc.

The main argument on the BC seems to be "this plays nicely in photoshop, you can edit all the parts" - but they don't konw what was done to the document before they got it.  Photoshop/PDF is very smart.  It senses letters and makes them editable.  

IF they had obamas in their hand,
and they had another actual one in their hand from the same week,
and THEN there were all these differences, I'd believe that.  BUt this?  Analyzing a scan of something - very inexact science.  


There is no original document!  Do you not pay attention to anything? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
That 1hour and 20 minute video that shows a news conference playing another video?

I watched like 2 minutes if it.   I am not going to invest  that amount of time on one of your videos only to find out its total crap like usual.  The part I saw was about layers in photoshop which is, as I know, very easy to fake and would be too easy to cover up by saving as a jpeg or ,  scanning and saving as a tiff/jpeg.  

So is there some sort of summary of their findings?  Or is every article an opinion laced piece?

Whatever - keep your head in the sand. 

The 3 minute clip on his fake SS registraion is clear proof of fraud and forgery. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 08:39:11 AM
hahahahahaha it continues.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:39:52 AM
hahahahahaha it continues.

Again - refute the evidence of the SS #. 

 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on March 02, 2012, 08:40:45 AM

There is no original document!  Do you not pay attention to anything? 

get back to finding a candidate, or just accept Obama will be in office for the next term.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:43:46 AM
Lurker - Ozmo - Blackass - 240 - RF20  -   PLEASE REFUTE THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAM3hRI8_Y



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on March 02, 2012, 08:47:05 AM
Lurker - Ozmo - Blackass - 240 - RF20  -   PLEASE REFUTE THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAM3hRI8_Y



look, there is no reason to even entertain your claims, even if they are true, they do not matter.  No news station will cover them, they will not affect the election, so all your doing is amounting to nothing.

If you want to help your party, start by looking for a good candidate to run in the general election.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 08:48:00 AM
Again - refute the evidence of the SS #. 

 

I don't have to.  Because I don't believe in bullshit and CT nonsense.

You are the one having to prove otherwise.  You - and all the other birthers - haven't done so yet.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:48:35 AM
So again - like the typical MO for obamabots - ignore the evidence - then claim its wrong - and then say it does not matter anyway.  


This is exactly why he have the ghetto pimp as potus.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
I don't have to.  Because I don't believe in bullshit and CT nonsense.

You are the one having to prove otherwise.  You - and all the other birthers - haven't done so yet.

LOL - how can you know that if you wont even watch a 3 minute video by the sheriff conclusively proving that the SS # is a fake? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 08:49:30 AM
look, there is no reason to even entertain your claims, even if they are true, they do not matter.  No news station will cover them, they will not affect the election, so all your doing is amounting to nothing.

If you want to help your party, start by looking for a good candidate to run in the general election.



Doesn't exist.  So instead they focus on whining and crying about bullshit like this.  So when Obama gets elected again, they only have themselves to blame.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 08:51:44 AM
LOL - how can you know that if you wont even watch a 3 minute video by the sheriff conclusively proving that the SS # is a fake? 


#1 I have learned not to waste time watching any video you put on here. 

#2  It would not matter if I did, as in the past when you claim the video contains something or the person in it says something and it turns out not to be the case you simply continue to cry about it like it is true.

Why not just say Obama is now in jail and serving 20 years.  I am sure you can then convince yourself it is true and believe it like you do with the rest of your bullshit.  Do you think that would stop your crying a bit?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:51:50 AM
Doesn't exist.  So instead they focus on whining and crying about bullshit like this.  So when Obama gets elected again, they only have themselves to blame.



No matter who the GOP nominated you communist zealots would claim the same thing or kneepad obama who cant run on his record is disaster, destruction, dithering, and damage.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on March 02, 2012, 08:52:43 AM
So again - like the typical MO for obamabots - ignore the evidence - then claim its wrong - and then say it does not matter anyway.  


This is exactly why he have the ghetto pimp as potus.  

Now how are you going to get him out of office should be your main concern, not this. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 08:52:55 AM

#1 I have learned not to waste time watching any video you put on here. 

#2  It would not matter if I did, as in the past when you claim the video contains something or the person in it says something and it turns out not to be the case you simply continue to cry about it like it is true.

Why not just say Obama is now in jail and serving 20 years.  I am sure you can then convince yourself it is true and believe it like you do with the rest of your bullshit.  Do you think that would stop your crying a bit?


Yawn - so again - you ignore the evidence and then claim its fake or doesnt matter anyway


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on March 02, 2012, 08:55:09 AM

Yawn - so again - you ignore the evidence and then claim its fake or doesnt matter anyway

Ok you don't seem to get the point, even if your evidence is true, let's say it is.  Still it doesn't matter because the news stations will not cover it, the population will not see it, it will not affect the general election. 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 09:03:02 AM
Ok you don't seem to get the point, even if your evidence is true, let's say it is.  Still it doesn't matter because the news stations will not cover it, the population will not see it, it will not affect the general election. 




Scum and islamic shit like you, pigs blood be upon you, are the reason we have Imam obama as potus in the first place. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: reppingfor20 on March 02, 2012, 09:06:42 AM

Scum and islamic shit like you, pigs blood be upon you, are the reason we have Imam obama as potus in the first place. 

but what are you going to do about getting him out of office?

If all you do is talk shit on him on a message board, that isn't going to help the republican's win anything in the general election coming up.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Straw Man on March 02, 2012, 09:11:04 AM
but what are you going to do about getting him out of office?

If all you do is talk shit on him on a message board, that isn't going to help the republican's win anything in the general election coming up.

posting nonsense virtually 24/7 on a message board is this losers ENTIRE LIFE



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 09:14:04 AM
posting nonsense virtually 24/7 on a message board is this losers ENTIRE LIFE



EXACTLY! 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 09:28:45 AM
Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse uncovers “systematic effort to obscure the truth”
By Coach Collins, on March 2nd, 2012
by Doug Book,  staff writer




Since first announcing the formation of a “cold case posse” to investigate the legitimacy of Barack Hussein Obama’s claim to Constitutional occupation of the White House, Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been at once the object of  legacy media smears and new media encouragement. And though the information gathered in the 6 month effort will probably not change the minds of many dedicated Obamabots, it has provided stark and irrefutable evidence that “person or persons unknown” worked long and hard in a systematic effort to obscure the truth about Barack Obama’s birth, heritage and qualifications to serve as President of the United States.  (1)

Consisting of law enforcement officials and attorneys with law enforcement experience, Joe Arpaio’s Posse has turned up the following information:

1.) the purported “long form birth certificate” published on the White House website last year is a computer generated forgery consisting of at least 9 layers of selected information and photo shopped into one “document.” It is NOT a scan or copy of a single, genuine document. A portion of the evidence supporting this claim includes the fact that name and date stamps of the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar were “computer generated images imported into an electronic document, as opposed to actual rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document.” (1)

Mike Zullo, retired New Jersey police detective and lead Posse investigator says the team believes “…the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in a systematic effort to hide from public inspection any original 1961 birth records it may have in its possession.” (2)

2.) The date stamp used on Obama’s Selective Service Card was not one used at the time (1980). Obama’s card shows a #2 (2 digit) pica stamp, but all others used by the post office at which he turned in his card were stamped with a #4 (4 digit). (3)

3.) Perhaps the most interesting finding of the team and arguably one of the most damning concerned records of airline flights to the United States in 1961, the year in which Obama was born. As the file distributed at the press conference states:

“Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama’s birth, including the dates Aug. 1, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961.” (4)

As Zullo stated, thousands of records on microfilm were turned over for use by the Cold Case Posse, yet only those during the week of Obama’s birth went somehow missing! A truly remarkable coincidence.

Sheriff Arpaio made it clear that he was not accusing Barack Obama of any crime, but considers it imperative that the What, Who, When and Why of the fraudulent documents be discovered and the guilty parties brought to justice.

According to the Sheriff, the most important question may be where to go from here. “This investigation is not over,” said Arpaio very forcefully. And who will continue it is the matter uppermost in the minds of the investigators. They express no confidence in   Hawaiian officials. And who in their position would turn things over to the Department of Justice? Arpaio favors a Congressional investigation. But the political intrigues inherent in such a proposal are staggering, especially in an election year.

The Posse has numerous sworn affidavits from individuals all over the world. These are people willing to come forth and tell their stories. In fact, just prior to the end of the press conference, Zullo told the story of a now retired government employee who was introduced to Barack Obama at the home of Bill Ayers! He states that he was told Obama was a foreign student, studying in the US! This was about the same time the Selective Service card would have been mismarked!

Take Joe Arpaio’s word. This investigation is NOT over.

 

Use this site to contact your Congressional Representative:

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To read more use these links:

 1.) http://captkarl.blogivists.com/2012/03/01/first-ever-law-enforcement-investigation-concludes-obama-birth-certificate-computer-generated-forgery/

2.) http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse-probable-cause-obama-certificate-a-fraud/

3.) http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/urgent-breaking-sheriff-joe-on-obamas-eligibility/

4.) http://wizbangblog.com/2012/03/01/joe-arpaio-probable-cause-obama-birth-certificate-a-fake/



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 09:37:46 AM
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html


Very good info at site.    Slumbama is an illegal alien marxist   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 09:54:40 AM
President John Boehner before November?
WebToday.com ^ | 3-2-12 | WebToday




An investigative “Cold Case Posse” begun in 2011 by “America’s toughest sheriff” – Joe Arpaio of Arizona’s Maricopa County concluded during a March 1, 2012 news conference that there is probable cause that the document released by the White House last year as President Obama’s birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery! And he concluded that there is criminal involvement with BOTH Obama’s birth certificate AND Selective Service card!

Analyst Steve Beaman, a number crunching genius who sold one of his companies to Charles Schwab for millions of dollars, is conducting a national Talk Show tour to discuss the political, military and economic implications of such high profile allegations that could lead to Obama and Biden being removed from office, and all their initiatives reversed to the status quo prior to their being sworn into office.

According to Steve, we are looking at the possibility of the biggest scandal in the history of the United States of America with the fallout nearly beyond the scope of imagination.

Beaman explains how investigators did conducted their analysis. He says that the register stamp and date stamp in government documents are safety features to verify the authenticity of their documents. But the fact that those stamps on documents purported by Obama as being genuine were actually imported from outside sources showing with certainty that it was fraudulent.

Furthermore its 'safety verification stamps’ were completely moveable to any point of the document. No original birth certificate circa the date of Obama's birth could possibly have had such movable computerized elements. So the purported birth certificate was an assembly of words, stamps and seals, rather than a cohesive single document consistent with technology of the 1960s. All and all it is not unlike securities fraud or counterfeiting money, except the stakes are higher in this case with Obama’s billion dollar campaign possibly coming down like a house of cards.

The posse, Beaman says, has identified at least one person of interest in the alleged forgery of Obama’s birth certificate. Arapaio, known for his strict enforcement of immigration laws, commissioned the investigative team after local citizens presented him with a petition expressing concern that Obama might not be eligible for Arizona’s presidential ballot.

The posse, comprised of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, has interviewed dozens of witnesses and examined hundreds of documents. It also has taken numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.

Mike Zullo, Arpaio’s lead investigator, said his team believes the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in a systematic effort to hide from public inspection any original 1961 birth records it may have in its possession.

Zullo said, “Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have.”

The investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.

The investigation was launched after 250 members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, presented a signed petition to Arpaio in August 2011 asking him to undertake the investigation.

The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was used to place Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.

The Cold Case Posse advised Arpaio that they believe forgers committed two crimes. First, they say it appears the White House fraudulently created a forgery that it characterized as an officially produced governmental birth record. Second, the White House fraudulently presented to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery represented as “proof positive” of President Obama’s authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.

In addition, investigators say they have developed credible evidence that President Obama’s Selective Service card was a forgery, based on an examination of the postal date stamp on the document. Also, records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama’s purported birth.

At the end of Sheriff Arpaio’s presentation of the findings of his cold case posse, members of the mainstream news media went ballistic, clearly showing they had no interest in the truth of the matter but only being interested in blindly defending Obama and demonizing the investigators.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 11:55:29 AM
And the GOP still can't beat him in November.  LOL!!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 12:28:03 PM
Whatever - keep your head in the sand. 

The 3 minute clip on his fake SS registraion is clear proof of fraud and forgery. 

No offense, 33333, what you consider proof is far different than what most people consider proof including me, the courts etc.  So, until something more concrete comes out, i say the 3 minute clip is probably NOT proof.  And again, no offense, I wont invest 3 minutes into what you say is "proof" because i have in the past been led to believe by you that a video contains something only to find out after wasting time watching it does not.

If its that straight forward that his SSN is fake.  Make your case in your own words right here right now.  Other wise you can go ahead and launch into the whole hide your head in the said routine like a tool, I don't care.

Show me, and I will re-access.  Until then......


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 12:30:17 PM
No offense, 33333, what you consider proof is far different than what most people consider proof including me, the courts etc.  So, until something more concrete comes out, i say the 3 minute clip is probably NOT proof.  And again, no offense, I wont invest 3 minutes into what you say is "proof" because i have in the past been led to believe by you that a video contains something only to find out after wasting time watching it does not.

If its that straight forward that his SSN is fake.  Make your case in your own words right here right now.  Other wise you can go ahead and launch into the whole hide your head in the said routine like a tool, I don't care.

Show me, and I will re-access.  Until then......


LOL - even Hugo - who was never a birther in the beginning looked at and said in his professional experience what they offered yestyerday showed clear evidence of something bogus going on.   But keep your head in the sand, thats cool. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 12:38:30 PM

LOL - even Hugo - who was never a birther in the beginning looked at and said in his professional experience what they offered yestyerday showed clear evidence of something bogus going on.   But keep your head in the sand, thats cool. 

See, look at you....   you cant even just say:  it's a fake because of this, this and this.

Sad. 


PS, what Hugo says and or doesn't say doesn't determine what i believe.  However, I trust his opinion far more than i trust yours mainly because of past experiences with you.  And the cool thing is, Hugo probably has no problem telling why, you on the other hand need to get out more.  Your employees just wont say it.   ;)

So are you going to say why or are you just going to play this stupid game more?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 12:40:32 PM
See, look at you....   you cant even just say:  it's a fake because of this, this and this.

Sad. 


PS, what Hugo says and or doesn't say doesn't determine what i believe.  However, I trust his opinion far more than i trust yours mainly because of past experiences with you.  And the cool thing is, Hugo probably has no problem telling why, you on the other hand need to get out more.  Your employees just wont say it.   ;)

So are you going to say why or are you just going to play this stupid game more?


The SS Registration is fake because when you compare the stamp obama offered compared to every other one, the one obama used is a clear fake and drastically difference to every single other SS Registration IN THE SAME POST OFFICE USING THE SAME SUPPOSED STAMP! 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 12:45:58 PM
And this loser tries to pass himself off as a lawyer.  HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 12:48:20 PM
And this loser tries to pass himself off as a lawyer.  HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The video presented yesterday was done by lawyers and deputies.   


But of course - the two ostriches WHO WONT EVEN WATCH A THREE MINUTE PRESENTATION know its false. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 12:51:44 PM
Hahahahaa look at this meltdown.

What's the excuse going to be next week when Obama is still POTUS?  Next month?   Next year?   You got your little excuses ready?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 12:55:32 PM
OZMO & LICKER - PLEASE REFUTE THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAM3hRI8_Y


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:07:30 PM
http://pe.usps.com/search/jsp/search/vv_docread.jsp?k2dockey=http%3A%2F%2Fpe.usps.com%2Ftext%2Fdmm300%2F604.htm%40PE_DMM300_HTML_5&serverSpec=56.0.145.56:9920&QueryParser=Simple&querytext=%284.6.1%29&dtype=2#hit0 (http://pe.usps.com/search/jsp/search/vv_docread.jsp?k2dockey=http%3A%2F%2Fpe.usps.com%2Ftext%2Fdmm300%2F604.htm%40PE_DMM300_HTML_5&serverSpec=56.0.145.56:9920&QueryParser=Simple&querytext=%284.6.1%29&dtype=2#hit0)

h. The address side must appear as described in this section and shown in the illustration below. Nothing may be added except a return address, FIM, or barcode.
Shows sample markings for metered reply postage.
4.6 Mailings
4.6.1 Mailing Date Format

The mailing date in meter indicia must meet the format standards in this section. The year must be represented by all four digits or by the last two digits. Mailers may print the indicia directly onto mailpieces or onto separate labels or tape affixed to mailpieces. The mailing date format used in the indicia is also subject to the following conditions.

a. Complete Date. Mailers must use a complete date for the following:

1. All Express Mail, Priority Mail, First-Class Mail, and First-Class Package Service pieces.

2. All mailpieces with Insured Mail, COD, or Special Handling service.

3. All mailpieces prepared with the indicia printed on nonadhesive paper (e.g., computer printer paper) and affixed to the mailpiece or used as part of an insert in a window envelope.

b. Month and Year. Mailers may use a complete date or a mailing date consisting solely of the month and year in the indicia only for Standard Mail and Package Services pieces.

c. No Date. Mailers must use indicia with no mailing date for prepaid metered reply postage. As an option, mailers may use indicia with no mailing date for Standard Mail and Package Services pieces not subject to 4.6.2a.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:09:49 PM
Chances are there are people out there who can provide a USPS stamp with only 2 digits for the year.  Probably stamp collectors in Hawaii.

I will hold my conclusions for a bit.   :)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 01:10:46 PM
http://pe.usps.com/search/jsp/search/vv_docread.jsp?k2dockey=http%3A%2F%2Fpe.usps.com%2Ftext%2Fdmm300%2F604.htm%40PE_DMM300_HTML_5&serverSpec=56.0.145.56:9920&QueryParser=Simple&querytext=%284.6.1%29&dtype=2#hit0 (http://pe.usps.com/search/jsp/search/vv_docread.jsp?k2dockey=http%3A%2F%2Fpe.usps.com%2Ftext%2Fdmm300%2F604.htm%40PE_DMM300_HTML_5&serverSpec=56.0.145.56:9920&QueryParser=Simple&querytext=%284.6.1%29&dtype=2#hit0)

h. The address side must appear as described in this section and shown in the illustration below. Nothing may be added except a return address, FIM, or barcode.
Shows sample markings for metered reply postage.
4.6 Mailings
4.6.1 Mailing Date Format

The mailing date in meter indicia must meet the format standards in this section. The year must be represented by all four digits or by the last two digits. Mailers may print the indicia directly onto mailpieces or onto separate labels or tape affixed to mailpieces. The mailing date format used in the indicia is also subject to the following conditions.

a. Complete Date. Mailers must use a complete date for the following:

1. All Express Mail, Priority Mail, First-Class Mail, and First-Class Package Service pieces.

2. All mailpieces with Insured Mail, COD, or Special Handling service.

3. All mailpieces prepared with the indicia printed on nonadhesive paper (e.g., computer printer paper) and affixed to the mailpiece or used as part of an insert in a window envelope.

b. Month and Year. Mailers may use a complete date or a mailing date consisting solely of the month and year in the indicia only for Standard Mail and Package Services pieces.

c. No Date. Mailers must use indicia with no mailing date for prepaid metered reply postage. As an option, mailers may use indicia with no mailing date for Standard Mail and Package Services pieces not subject to 4.6.2a.




LOL.   AGAIN - THEY GOT THE SAME POST OFFICE STAMP FROM OTHER REGISTRATIONS IN THE SAME MONTH THAT LOOK NOTHING LIKE WHAT OBAMA PUT FORWARD.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:13:21 PM
Yeah, only one stamp was used in 1980 and they got the exact same one 32 years later. 

Its amazing. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
Yeah, only one stamp was used in 1980 and they got the exact same one 32 years later. 

Its amazing. 


You are confusing things.  They got other registrations from the same exact same post office from the same month and not one even looks close to what obama put forth.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:20:47 PM

You are confusing things.  They got other registrations from the same exact same post office from the same month and not one even looks close to what obama put forth.    

Oh yeah, silly me.  Let me, recant my statement.

They identified every stamp used from that post office in 1980 and compared to every letter ever mailed through that post office from 1980 and they conclusively proved that back in 1980 a 2 digit USPS stamp was never used and or was not functioning properly as the "19" might have been push back too far.

Amazing what they can do these days.

I'll have to say their powers of "search" (as in searching and finding all those letters and stamps from 1980) rivals your own powers of search 33333.

Yeah I am convinced.  

God is good, God is not a liberal.  Thank God.  Almost had a faint spell there.    ;D ;D ;D  (sorry its Friday, I cant help it) 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 01:23:29 PM
Oh yeah, silly me.  Let me, recant my statement.

They identified every stamp used from that post office in 1980 and compared to every letter ever mailed through that post office from 1980 and they conclusively proved that back in 1980 a 2 digit USPS stamp was never used and or was not functioning properly as the "19" might have been push back too far.

Amazing what they can do these days.

I'll have to say their powers of "search" (as in searching and finding all those letters and stamps from 1980) rivals your own powers of search 33333.

Yeah I am convinced.  

God is good, God is not a liberal.  Thank God.  Almost had a faint spell there.    ;D ;D ;D  (sorry its Friday, I cant help it) 


They never used the two digit stamp there and the "80" that is on Obama's is clearly cut off and not a 2 digit stamp, but the 2008 one cut in half and reversed. 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:26:04 PM
I bet i could find some sort of "recycle act" past prior to 1980 showing how the USPS was directed to recycle all their Stamps until such a time they were put in airtight humidity controlled canisters so just in case they were needed for something in 2012 they could be used.  Serious genius forward thinking there.

Plus, i bet every land fill in the USA has been gone over and searched looking for traces of letters mailed form Hawaii in 1980 and i bet they have figured a way to reconstruct the letters that have decomposed so to compare these stamps.  

Things are so fucking amazing now.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:28:15 PM

They never used the two digit stamp there and the "80" that is on Obama's is clearly cut off and not a 2 digit stamp, but the 2008 one cut in half and reversed. 



Prove it.  We already know it was permitted.  It looks reversed because 80 reversed is 08.  (in case you didn't realize that)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 01:29:19 PM
Prove it.  We already know it was permitted.  It looks reversed because 80 reversed is 08.  (in case you didn't realize that)


No its not - if it were a 2 digit stamp it would have been centered. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:30:54 PM

No its not - if it were a 2 digit stamp it would have been centered. 

Why?

How do you know it would have been centered?

Did you work for the USPS in 1980?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
Another thing to, not too sure on this:

At the bottom of the date stamp (obama's) says "USPO"  If it was an altered stamp from 2008 isn't it supposed to be "USPS"



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 01:53:50 PM
Why?

How do you know it would have been centered?

Did you work for the USPS in 1980?


http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2011/06/forgery-questions-about-obama-mandatory.html



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2012, 01:57:50 PM
Another thing to, not too sure on this:

At the bottom of the date stamp (obama's) says "USPO"  If it was an altered stamp from 2008 isn't it supposed to be "USPS"



I think that would have been the easiest thing to have caught if you were gonna fake this. I have no idea what to think about all this but I find the fact that there is enough to even have a shred of doubt about this guy, monumentally troubling.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2012, 01:58:33 PM
I bet on Monday this thread and whining will still be on the first page.

I further bet that Obama will still be POTUS.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 01:59:25 PM
http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2011/06/forgery-questions-about-obama-mandatory.html



Was does this blog have to do with the 2 digits being centered?

Try and keep up 33333.


Seriously.

Dont just go into a postal rage, cutting, pasting and linking.  



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 02:00:45 PM
Was does this blog have to do with the 2 digits being centered?

Try and keep up 33333.


Seriously.

Dont just go into a postal rage, cutting, pasting and linking.  




I have not researched this part of the birther CT.   I just learned this yesterday. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 02:01:05 PM
I think that would have been the easiest thing to have caught if you were gonna fake this. I have no idea what to think about all this but I find the fact that there is enough to even have a shred of doubt about this guy, monumentally troubling.

There's plenty troubling and i do support further investigation.  However, there's not much here so far, even though 3333 seems to be clawing at everything he can to make it so.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 02:03:32 PM

I have not researched this part of the birther CT.   I just learned this yesterday. 

ok then why are you randomly pasting links that have nothing to do with what i asked you to prove?

com on dude. 

You said it was "proof".  I've destroyed that.  I want the truth, not these bush league arguments.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2012, 02:05:09 PM
all this because there is a black man in office :D :D :D,this country is becoming a bunch of morons


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 02:06:07 PM
ok then why are you randomly pasting links that have nothing to do with what i asked you to prove?

com on dude. 

You said it was "proof".  I've destroyed that.  I want the truth, not these bush league arguments.

I'm looking for more on this, but the link i gave has some good discussion on this as well as other troubling aspects of the document.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2012, 02:09:46 PM
I'm looking for more on this, but the link i gave has some good discussion on this as well as other troubling aspects of the document.

try the india times :D :D :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 02:14:24 PM
I'm looking for more on this, but the link i gave has some good discussion on this as well as other troubling aspects of the document.

but most of it is unsupported argument.  If there is something concrete you should be able to argue it in your own words and back it up with facts. 

But like i said, i am staying tuned reserving judgement for the moment.  But indications point elsewhere so far.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
Just curious, is Drudge still carrying the story the biggest most concrete evidence/proof that Obama is not a US citizen on his website?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 04:54:12 PM
Just curious, is Drudge still carrying the story the biggest most concrete evidence/proof that Obama is not a US citizen on his website?


Yes, because it is.   Have you not seen the videos destroying the bc Obama put out w regard to the fonts snd layering issues? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 05:01:51 PM

Yes, because it is.   Have you not seen the videos destroying the bc Obama put out w regard to the fonts snd layering issues? 

where?

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

Maybe i don't see it?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 05:02:34 PM

Yes, because it is.   Have you not seen the videos destroying the bc Obama put out w regard to the fonts snd layering issues? 

BTW  you still to this date haven't posted a VID that was worth a shit regarding this or that didn't get totally destroyed. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 05:02:40 PM
where?

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

Maybe i don't see it?

Must have just taken it down.  Probably got warned about AB.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 02, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
3333,

Why would an 18 year old heavily pregnant woman leave the country to have her baby? Makes zero sense.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 06:18:31 PM
3333,

Why would an 18 year old heavily pregnant woman leave the country to have her baby? Makes zero sense.

nothing w Rosemarys baby makes sense. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 02, 2012, 06:47:49 PM
nothing w Rosemarys baby makes sense. 
Fail


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 07:12:27 PM
Must have just taken it down.  Probably got warned about AB.

Lol. Ok or is was bunk.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 02, 2012, 07:19:19 PM
And this loser tries to pass himself off as a lawyer.  HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And now he's trying to pass himself off as president. (Obama).


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2012, 07:31:49 PM
And now he's trying to pass himself off as president. (Obama).

Thats a good point, but not in the context of birthing.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2012, 07:47:38 PM

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March 2, 2012
Sheriff Arpaio's Posse Surprise

By Cindy Simpson
The Tea Party members of Surprise, Arizona, were likely not surprised to learn that even America's Toughest Sheriff cannot fully break the shroud of secrecy and mystery surrounding Obama's long-form birth certificate. However, yesterday, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio proved once again that he didn't earn the moniker without reason.

As promised, Sheriff Arpaio held a press conference in Phoenix to announce the findings of his "Cold Case Posse."  Organized last September at the request of the Surprise Tea Party members, the posse was assigned the primary task of verifying the authenticity of the copy of Obama's birth certificate released by the White House on April 27, 2011.

The stunning conclusion of the posse thus far:  The document released by the White House is suspected to be a forgery, as is Obama's Selective Service card.

While not accusing Obama of any crime or wrongdoing, the posse revealed they have "probable cause" to believe that felonies have been committed -- fraud and forgery -- and asserted that those responsible should be brought to justice.

Headed by Michael Zullo, a retired police detective, and rounded out with two former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys, the posse's work was entirely voluntary and operated at no cost to Maricopa County taxpayers. 

At the press conference, Zullo explained that the posse examined numerous documents, interviewed many witnesses and experts, and obtained several sworn statements as part of its investigation. Zullo also presented a series of videos that explained and demonstrated in detail the key reasons for the posse's conclusions. In addition, Zullo revealed that his group has identified a "person of interest" in the alleged forgery.  The posse did not, however, address the related question of Obama's eligibility as a "natural born" citizen under Article II of the Constitution.

Sheriff Arpaio asserted:

"As I said at the beginning of the investigation, the president can put all this to rest quite easily.  All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm, and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession." 

Arpaio had assured us before:  "I take my elected sheriff's status very serious and when the people ask me to do something, I try to do it regardless of the repercussions, the politics."  He added:  "And I don't have press conferences just to have my name on television."

At a recent Republican gathering in Phoenix, Arpaio told reporters: "I really started [the posse] on the theory that maybe I could clear this mess up...[w]ouldn't it be nice for me to do that?"  The CNN Political Ticker blog also reported "Arpaio added he believes he is doing the president a favor."

The outspoken sheriff actually has a rather rocky history with this president and his administration.  In a press release issued last September, following Obama's remarks about Arpaio at a White House Roundtable with Latino journalists on immigration and Arizona, the sheriff offered a similar remark:

"I enforce the law, including state and federal laws, because I took an oath of office as the elected Sheriff to do so. The President of the United States should understand that and applaud me for that effort, not criticize me."

But then a couple of months later in December, the Department of Justice released a 22-page report on its three-year investigation into Arpaio, and concluded his office maintained "a pervasive culture of discriminatory bias against Latinos" that "reaches the highest levels of the agency." Arpaio countered: "I do have compassion, but enforcing the law overrides my compassion."

In January, authorities arrested "Obama supporter" Adam Eugene Cox for his published death threats against Arpaio, purportedly driven by the Sheriff's investigation into Obama's birth certificate.  Other death threats have been made against the sheriff by Mexican drug cartels, which allegedly have contracted close to $4 million for Arpaio's execution.

The President of La Raza, Janet Murguia, called Arpaio "America's worst sheriff" at a press conference in February.  Stand with Arizona's John Hill documents the various organizations (many with ties to the Obama administration) and the millions of dollars of spending (some backed with federal grants) aimed at removing the sheriff from office.

Looking back on that chain of events since the formation of the posse, it seems that the attacks and criticism levied against Sheriff Arpaio have indeed been increasing.  We can only speculate as to whether the escalation was the result of, or related to, that investigation.  Some of the conservative media reporting of that pattern has created something of a Wild West legend of a heroic sheriff, willing to fight for the truth against all odds.  For the most part, the rest of mainstream portrayed an overzealous lawman looking for vindication and Tea Party support for his reelection.  For either storyline, no more perfect leading man than the famous Sheriff Joe could have been cast to deliver the tale's memorable lines.

Yesterday, we heard it straight from the star's lips -- complete with a no-nonsense John Wayne-style delivery -- that in the opinion of his office and the posse, the law has been broken.

WND live-streamed the press conference, and several other mainstream media organizations were also in attendance. Many of those same mainstream outlets witnessed the recent Georgia ballot challenge hearings, yet afterwards, all appeared to orchestrate a complete blackout of the spectacle. At the conclusion of yesterday's conference, reporters' frustrations with Arpaio, evident in the tone of most of their follow-up questions, found an equal match in the sheriff's answers.

It will be interesting to watch the response of the mainstream media and the Obama campaign in the days ahead:  Will they sidestep, or spin, or simply turn their backs?

At the press conference, WND journalist Dr. Jerome Corsi reported that he had arranged on the evening prior, a private conference between the sheriff and conservative media champion Andrew Breitbart, and Corsi wondered whether it might have been Breitbart's last interview. As we mourn Breitbart's passing, we hope that his colleagues continue to pursue his inspiring legacy of boldness in uncovering and reporting the truth.  At CPAC, Breitbart had assured attendees:  "This election, we're going to vet [Obama]."

This investigation by fellow warrior Sheriff Arpaio demonstrates that we need other brave individuals willing to come forward and delve further back in Obama's history. 

Thomas Jefferson once said: "When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." 

Like Sheriff Arpaio, Obama has assumed a public office.  But while Obama shields the property of his history from public view, the question arises:  Should the public trust Obama?


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Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2012, 07:12:29 AM
Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill
Posted on March 3, 2012 10:02:42 AM EST by Erik Latranyi

Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.

Jerome Corsi writes:

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Shockwave on March 03, 2012, 07:41:20 AM
Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill
Posted on March 3, 2012 10:02:42 AM EST by Erik Latranyi

Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.

Jerome Corsi writes:

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”
Interesting.
As I said before though, pretty sure nothing is going to come of it. Theyll just find a way to make an excuse for him, hell find a way to change the system, and everything goes on.
Itd be anarchy if they impeached him though, what would they do? Retract all his policies? Redo the last 4 years? What the hell would happen?

Beginining more and more to sound like we have an imposter in the White House. And we have no one to blame but ourselves, for people voting for the man without knowing a damn thing about him other than hes "not bush" :-\


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 03, 2012, 07:50:53 AM
the dumbing down of the republican party :o


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2012, 07:53:11 AM
the dumbing down of the republican party :o

What do you call someone who blames ATM Machines for job losses. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 03, 2012, 07:54:58 AM
What do you call someone who blames ATM Machines for job losses. 
 

i call someone who repeats it 1000 times, the dumbing down of the republican party  :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on March 03, 2012, 11:31:36 AM
Interesting.
As I said before though, pretty sure nothing is going to come of it. Theyll just find a way to make an excuse for him, hell find a way to change the system, and everything goes on.
Itd be anarchy if they impeached him though, what would they do? Retract all his policies? Redo the last 4 years? What the hell would happen?

Beginining more and more to sound like we have an imposter in the White House. And we have no one to blame but ourselves, for people voting for the man without knowing a damn thing about him other than hes "not bush" :-\

Why?

You have people ready to vote for anyone but Obama.

33333333 has already admitted as much.

If Romney wins the nomination (and he WILL win) then what will be different?

Not a damn thing.

That's what.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: FarRightLooney on March 03, 2012, 11:45:26 AM
I know the Selective Service Card was covered here on the boards. This is where it started...
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions/ (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions/)
November 13, 2008, - 1:56 am

EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama’s Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions

By Debbie Schlussel
**** Copyright 2008, Must Cite Debbie Schlussel and link to DebbieSchlussel.com ****
*** SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATES ***
Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?
It’s either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama’s official Selective Service registration for the draft. A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally received it and released it to me.
But the release of Obama’s draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obama’s claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.
(http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/obamaselectiveserviceregist.jpg)
(http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/Obamaselectiveserviceprinto.jpg)

MUCH more at link at top


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 03, 2012, 06:36:53 PM
Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill
Posted on March 3, 2012 10:02:42 AM EST by Erik Latranyi

Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.

Jerome Corsi writes:

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”
I believe Obama was born in Hawaii. It is crazy to think his mother would leave the country to have the baby in Africa or Asia in 1961. Her parents were her bank since she was a student and lived with them as an 18 year old. Her husband had no money to fly back to Africa since he had been flown to Hawaii on scholarship which means he was stuck there until his degree was finished.

I do believe obama's original birth certificate may no longer exist in Hawaii. Why? Because I live in Hawaii and you have to live here to appreciate how hopeless the government is here. I would not be surprised if years of records from the 60's were not stored properly and were destroyed by mold and mildew ( the climate here is brutal houses last about 25 years before they are rotten from the inside out). I would not be surprised if people paid to enter records into databases simply didn't do it because of laziness.

Things like bookwork and records are simply not taken seriously here. When I moved here from Australia immigration was supposed to ask social security to assign me a SS number. I waited and waited and it never turned up, I am talking months went by. Finally I had to go to SS and ask what happened. They told me someone in immigration was obviously too lazy to enter my details into the system. So much for national security.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 03, 2012, 06:47:07 PM
The other thing that makes no sense is if he was born overseas why would his family make out he was born in Hawaii?

As a child of an American citizen, his mother, it makes no difference where he was born he is automatically an American citizen.

My daughter was born in Australia but because her mother is American she is a dual citizen and received an American passport in Sydney before she ever travelled to America at age 4 months.

And don't tell me they did it because they knew one day he would become president!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2012, 04:37:22 PM
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Pixels Don't Lie
March 4, 2012 | Linda Jordan
Posted on March 4, 2012 2:50:20 PM EST by ethical

To prove that the birth document Obama posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 is a fraudulent document, all you need to determine is whether or not it is a computer created document or a scanned photocopy.

It is a computer created document. Even the obots can not deny that.

You do not need to ask the Hawaii DOH for a "waiver" in order to get a computer created birth document. Obama asked for special permission from Hawaii DOH to get photocopies of his original birth certificate. Loretta Fuddy granted that request and gave Obama, she says, photocopies of his original birth certificate.

Scanning a photocopy, in order to post it on a website, does not turn it in to a computer created document with multiple layers and movable text. Although interesting, it isn't all the details of the forgery that first reveal that it's a fake; different fonts, the halos, the weird bent page, the strange behavior of the security paper. It is the fact that it IS a computer created document and NOT a scanned photocopy.

But let's look at one of those fun forgery details. I included the web addresses for the quote and images I describe.

Here is what Chiyome Fukino [Former Director of Hawaii Public Health Department] had to say about how the “birthers” would respond to the release of Obama’s birth certificate.

“They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated.” Said Fukino. “The whole thing is silly.”1

Let’s start with the ink, shall we?

From Hawaii Public Health Regulations Title: Vital Statistics, Registration & Records. Chapter 8, Certificates of Vital Statistics Events, Section 1. Preparation. Certificates of vital statistics events are to be filled in by typewriter or in ink. If ink is used only permanent ink will be acceptable. All signatures are to be made with permanent ink. In all other respects, the certificates shall comply with provisions of Section 57-14, R.L.H. 1955.”

On April 27, 2011 Barack Obama revealed what he said was a photo copy of his original long form ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ from Hawaii (it was posted on the White House website). The signatures on this ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ are required to be made in permanent ink.

Pixels Don’t Lie

Download the BC document off the White House website and open it in Adobe Illustrator. Now zoom in on the signature of Obama’s mother. The pixels reveal that only a portion of the signature is in ink as required by Hawaii Public Health Regulations Chapter 8.

The Ann and the D in Dunham are in ink. The pixels are a variety of gradations in greys and blacks, like ink signature pixels are. But what’s really interesting is that the rest of the signature, ‘unham and Obama’, are not in ink.

The letters are a solid greenish–black color with no gradation in color at all. This lack of gradation reveals that this part of the signature was created in the computer and is not even penmanship.

And what’s it called when you forge a signature on a “Certificate of Live Birth” from Hawaii? FORGERY! Well that would be my top pick but hey they also violated Hawaii Public Health Regulations by not using permanent ink in their forgery! Maybe that’ll tick someone off.

If you ignore the fact that this document was computer created and that fact, in and of itself, makes it a forgery, you can't deny what the pixels are telling us.

The Stanley Ann Dunham Obama signature on this document is a forged signature and that makes the whole document a forgery.

Figure 1. The Dunham part of the signature of Obama’s mother on the alleged long form original ‘Certificate of Live Birth’, posted on the White House website. Here it has been downloaded into Adobe Illustrator.

Figure 2. Zooming in on the top part of the ‘D’ in Dunham. You can see the variation in color pixels—variations of grays to black tones. This is how pixels of a signature will appear when it is applied with ink and scanned.

Figure 3. Focusing now on the start of the ‘u’ next to the D in Dunham. You can see there is no gradation of color at all. A solid dark greenish-black color displays no evidence of the gradation in color for these pixels which implies that this “signature” was created with image editing software and not with ink.

Figure 4. The last image focuses on the O in ‘Obama’ and part of the b. You can see there is no color change in the pixels. The solid pixel color again suggests the signature was not scanned or representative of ink. The ‘Obama’ portion of the signature was computer generated.

1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics/t/ex-hawaii-official-denounces-ludicrous-birther-claims/ 2. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

3. Albert Renshaw Obama BC Fake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2012, 09:07:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGhpLsl0giM&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Wow!!!    Breitbart talked to Sheriff Joe right before he died and told him he was holding very damaging info on Obama.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 05, 2012, 04:40:38 AM
I bet on Monday this thread and whining will still be on the first page.

I further bet that Obama will still be POTUS.

Yep.  And yep!

What kind of loser sits around all weekend obsessing over bullshit like this on the internet?  Hahaha


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: FarRightLooney on March 05, 2012, 12:02:22 PM
The other thing that makes no sense is if he was born overseas why would his family make out he was born in Hawaii?

The law was different in 1961. Can't remember specifics (she had to have lived so many years in the U.S. after a specific age), but Ann was not old enough to give baby Obama citizenship if he was not born on U.S. soil. And, U.S. citizenship was a prized thing to have even if you were not planning to run the baby as pres many years later.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 05, 2012, 12:29:47 PM
The law was different in 1961. Can't remember specifics (she had to have lived so many years in the U.S. after a specific age), but Ann was not old enough to give baby Obama citizenship if he was not born on U.S. soil. And, U.S. citizenship was a prized thing to have even if you were not planning to run the baby as pres many years later.
What a load of rubbish she had lived her entire 18 years in either Kansas, Washington or Hawaii.

Any kid of hers was American plain and simple.

Her dad was a furniture salesman and mother was still a bank clerk back then they weren't sending her overseas no way no how.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 05, 2012, 01:13:03 PM
The law was different in 1961. Can't remember specifics (she had to have lived so many years in the U.S. after a specific age), but Ann was not old enough to give baby Obama citizenship if he was not born on U.S. soil. And, U.S. citizenship was a prized thing to have even if you were not planning to run the baby as pres many years later.


Hate to tell you this but even if Obama was born overseas, he still would have had U.S citizenship.  His mother was from Kansas so he would have had it anyway and would have went on with his life as an attorney and U.S Senator and Governer of Illinois.

There would have to have been conspiracy running from the time of his birth and that's pretty much impossible.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 02:09:54 PM
so basically this is looking like a crash and burn.

The people here who think its true refuse to acknowledge:

1.  2 digit year codes are permissible on postal stamps
2.  USPS should have been on the stamp if the digits were reversed on a 2008 stamp.  but the stamp clearly shows USPO


To the Birthers:

A Kenyan is our president. Can you make a better case instead of this bush league crap?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
so basically this is looking like a crash and burn.

The people here who think its true refuse to acknowledge:

1.  2 digit year codes are permissible on postal stamps
2.  USPS should have been on the stamp if the digits were reversed on a 2008 stamp.  but the stamp clearly shows USPO


To the Birthers:

A Kenyan is our president. Can you make a better case instead of this bush league crap?



They showed a ton of other stamps from the post office, not one in that same month had a 2 digit stamp, and if it was a 2 digit it would have been centered.   


Third, the image "80" is clearly fucked up as a result of being cut.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 02:19:35 PM


They showed a ton of other stamps from the post office, not one in that same month had a 2 digit stamp, and if it was a 2 digit it would have been centered.  


Third, the image "80" is clearly fucked up as a result of being cut.  

2.  USPS is not on the stamp, instead it says USPO

How many stamp examples still exists from 1980 versus how many were sent?  Just because none have been located yet doesn't mean much and is a very weak part of the argument.

#1 and  #2 are very strong parts of my argument and you cant fight them because you got nothing.

That's why the story was dropped and nothing more has become of it.  Sheriff JOE is an ignorant stupid fool and now has been exposed as a dumb red neck with a 3rd grade education and a sub 80 IQ.

A Kenyan is our president


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
2.  USPS is not on the stamp, instead it says USPO

How many stamp examples still exists from 1980 versus how many were sent?  Just because none have been located yet doesn't mean much and is a very weak part of the argument.

#1 and  #2 are very strong parts of my argument and you cant fight them because you got nothing.

That's why the story was dropped and nothing more has become of it.  Sheriff JOE is an ignorant stupid fool and now has been exposed as a dumb red neck with a 3rd grade education and a sub 80 IQ.

A Kenyan is our president



LOL - so the possibility of there being allowed a 2 digit stamp is proof that a 2 digit stamp was used despite the fact that no other 2 digit stamps have been found?   HUH????


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 02:31:47 PM


LOL - so the possibility of there being allowed a 2 digit stamp is proof that a 2 digit stamp was used despite the fact that no other 2 digit stamps have been found?   HUH????

Run 333333 run!

address #2

address #1


I, however, will address your drivel, with pleasure and not run.   ;)

Unless you can some how obtain every stamp used in Hawaii in 1980 and show none of them used a 2 digit layout your argument falls flat. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
Run 333333 run!

address #2

address #1


I, however, will address your drivel, with pleasure and not run.   ;)

Unless you can some how obtain every stamp used in Hawaii in 1980 and show none of them used a 2 digit layout your argument falls flat. 


They showed the others and I will wait as more info comes out.    The investogator said they all had 4 digit stamps.   

and I agree with you on the USPS thing, definately needs to be addressed by the investigators. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 02:58:10 PM

They showed the others and I will wait as more info comes out.    The investogator said they all had 4 digit stamps.   

and I agree with you on the USPS thing, definately needs to be addressed by the investigators. 

So they were savvy enough to change it to USPO but not enough to make it 1980 without cut off "80"?

Does that make sense to you 33333?

Do you need investigators to make that make sense to you?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2012, 02:59:59 PM
So they were savvy enough to change it to USPO but not enough to make it 1980 without cut off "80"?

Does that make sense to you 33333?

Do you need investigators to make that make sense to you?

More than one way to forge this thing.   The 2 digit on the stamp does not even look like the normal "80" from that time period


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 03:03:15 PM
So they were savvy enough to change it to USPO but not enough to make it 1980 without cut off "80"?


bump for 3333 because he probably didn't see it even though he quoted it.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2012, 03:06:10 PM
bump for 3333 because he probably didn't see it even though he quoted it.

They werent savy - like the investogator said - this thing was a bad forgery.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 05, 2012, 03:08:31 PM
bump for 3333 because he probably didn't see it even though he quoted it.

why bother


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 03:13:28 PM
They werent savy - like the investogator said - this thing was a bad forgery.  

I am thinking you are dense today.  Are you having problems reading?  Or are you just playing games?

The stamp on OB's SS card shows USPO.  IF it was a stamp used in 2008 and was altered it would have shown USPS  not USPO.  So they would have had to change it from USPS to USPO. (making them extremely savvy)  If they did that why didnt they easily add the "19" and use a better "80"??


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
I am thinking you are dense today.  Are you having problems reading?  Or are you just playing games?

The stamp on OB's SS card shows USPO.  IF it was a stamp used in 2008 and was altered it would have shown USPS  not USPO.  So they would have had to change it from USPS to USPO. (making them extremely savvy)  If they did that why didnt they easily add the "19" and use a better "80"??


I have no idea!   But I also have no idea why obi's stamp is the only one w 2 digits and off center too.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 05, 2012, 03:23:11 PM
2.  USPS is not on the stamp, instead it says USPO

How many stamp examples still exists from 1980 versus how many were sent?  Just because none have been located yet doesn't mean much and is a very weak part of the argument.

#1 and  #2 are very strong parts of my argument and you cant fight them because you got nothing.

That's why the story was dropped and nothing more has become of it.  Sheriff JOE is an ignorant stupid fool and now has been exposed as a dumb red neck with a 3rd grade education and a sub 80 IQ.A Kenyan is our president


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 03:25:07 PM
I have no idea!   But I also have no idea why obi's stamp is the only one w 2 digits and off center too.  

If the took the time and had the skill to change it from USPS to USPO why would have they stayed with 2 digits IF as you say they never used 2 digits in 1980?

Doesn't make  a  lick of sense does it?  On one hand they masterfully changed it from USPS to USPO but didn't do the rest?

And you still believe you have a legit argument?

You probably think  the story has been dropped because the media is controlled by OB too huh?  (including fox news)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 05, 2012, 03:30:05 PM
If the took the time and had the skill to change it from USPS to USPO why would have they stayed with 2 digits IF as you say they never used 2 digits in 1980?

Doesn't make  a  lick of sense does it?  On one hand they masterfully changed it from USPS to USPO but didn't do the rest?

And you still believe you have a legit argument?

You probably think  the story has been dropped because the media is controlled by OB too huh?  (including fox news)

hahaha logic, the way to end all arguments with 333.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 05, 2012, 03:58:52 PM
I am thinking you are dense today.  Are you having problems reading?  Or are you just playing games?

The stamp on OB's SS card shows USPO.  IF it was a stamp used in 2008 and was altered it would have shown USPS  not USPO.  So they would have had to change it from USPS to USPO. (making them extremely savvy)  If they did that why didnt they easily add the "19" and use a better "80"??


Is it all or nothing, or is it possible to make one oversight?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2012, 04:03:34 PM
Is it all or nothing, or is it possible to make one oversight?

Several, not just 1.

1.  Using 2 digits
2.  Using damaged digits
3.  not centering
4.  doing this understanding as 33333 claims all stamps were 4 digits

If they are savvy enough to change it from USPS to USPO why stop there?  Why open the door to problems by allowing those 4 oversights?

Add that to the fact that's its permissible by the post office, can you, Grape, seriously say there is something to this other than extreme unlikeliness?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 05, 2012, 09:34:38 PM
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Arpaio: Obama's birth certificate was doctored
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Friday, March 2, 2012 | Howard Fischer
Posted on March 2, 2012 9:09:17 AM EST by Brown Deer

PHOENIX - Just when it seemed the Barack Obama citizenship flap had faded into the background, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has turned the spotlight back on.

On Thursday Arpaio charged the birth certificate Obama says proves he is a U.S. citizen is a fraud, contending a forensic examination of the electronic document posted last year by the White House proves that it was not simply scanned into a file but actually put together in several pieces.

Mike Zullo, head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse who headed the investigation, said the inconsistencies in the document cannot be explained away by claims it was optimized or had been scanned with optical character-recognition software.

Zullo also said a separate examination proves Obama's 1980 Selective Service registration also is a fake.

The White House, which thought the issue had been put to sleep with the posting of the birth certificate, had no comment.

While saying the evidence proves that a crime was committed, Arpaio was careful not to implicate the president.

"I'm not accusing anyone of anything until we find out who may have committed these alleged crimes over this birth certificate and the Selective Service card," Arpaio said.

Arpaio brushed aside a question of why he was able to find such evidence when no one else in the country has. The sheriff said he probably was the only one who bothered to investigate in detail.

Zullo also said the fact the Honolulu newspaper had a birth announcement at the time proves nothing, saying the newspaper accepted such messages without requiring proof the person actually had been born in the state.

And Zullo insisted Arpaio has jurisdiction.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 05, 2012, 10:12:00 PM
Big surprise Zullo has a book he is peddling!

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Ariz-sheriff-s-Obama-investigator-selling-book-3379645.php


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2012, 10:59:30 PM
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Arpaio: Obama's birth certificate was doctored
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Friday, March 2, 2012 | Howard Fischer
Posted on March 2, 2012 9:09:17 AM EST by Brown Deer

PHOENIX - Just when it seemed the Barack Obama citizenship flap had faded into the background, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has turned the spotlight back on.

On Thursday Arpaio charged the birth certificate Obama says proves he is a U.S. citizen is a fraud, contending a forensic examination of the electronic document posted last year by the White House proves that it was not simply scanned into a file but actually put together in several pieces.

Mike Zullo, head of the sheriff's Cold Case Posse who headed the investigation, said the inconsistencies in the document cannot be explained away by claims it was optimized or had been scanned with optical character-recognition software.

Zullo also said a separate examination proves Obama's 1980 Selective Service registration also is a fake.

The White House, which thought the issue had been put to sleep with the posting of the birth certificate, had no comment.

While saying the evidence proves that a crime was committed, Arpaio was careful not to implicate the president.

"I'm not accusing anyone of anything until we find out who may have committed these alleged crimes over this birth certificate and the Selective Service card," Arpaio said.

Arpaio brushed aside a question of why he was able to find such evidence when no one else in the country has. The sheriff said he probably was the only one who bothered to investigate in detail.

Zullo also said the fact the Honolulu newspaper had a birth announcement at the time proves nothing, saying the newspaper accepted such messages without requiring proof the person actually had been born in the state.

And Zullo insisted Arpaio has jurisdiction.



anyone with the foresight as a newborn to orchestrate one of the biggest frauds in history, deserves to be friggin president..


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 06, 2012, 04:07:43 AM
Several, not just 1.

1.  Using 2 digits
2.  Using damaged digits
3.  not centering
4.  doing this understanding as 33333 claims all stamps were 4 digits

If they are savvy enough to change it from USPS to USPO why stop there?  Why open the door to problems by allowing those 4 oversights?

Add that to the fact that's its permissible by the post office, can you, Grape, seriously say there is something to this other than extreme unlikeliness?

I think all scenarios are possible.   I absolutely think it's plausible they could be savvy enough to recognize the nuances of changing an S to an O, but completely botch another aspect of the forgery.  It's not a case of letting something slide, it's a case of making a mistake, or not being as good at this as they thought.   I don't think it's a slam dunk argument.

I'm passed all this.  Something smells here without a doubt, but I don't think it's going to go anywhere, so I'm not spending too much time on it.  The left has done a great job at creating such a universally dismissive attitude about this subject.

But, it is nice to see you take a legitimate shot at a counter argument, rather than fall in lockstep like the other leftist dipshits here.  They're doing exactly what is wanted of them.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 06:03:25 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 06:23:50 AM
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-obamas-connecticut-social.html


Awesome - they are going to expose Thugbama's fake CT SS# next.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V53XQUs6yV4


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 06, 2012, 06:37:59 AM
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/birther&sa=U&ei=wSBWT8HzDeHn0QHk-sy-Cg&ved=0CBsQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNEifcb40FskgLrpN32qNb8G0aL1gQ


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 06:42:28 AM
This is like watching a girl on her period swim in shark infested waters.

Better just quit and move along.  You have been shit on for two weeks now with this thread.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 06:43:27 AM
This is like watching a girl on her period swim in shark infested waters.

Better just quit and move along.  You have been shit on for two weeks now with this thread.

Why do you bother posting in threads where you have no interest in debating the topic? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 06:46:34 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 06:46:49 AM
There is no topic here to debate.

I don't debate delusional hopes with crybabies.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 06:47:40 AM
There is no topic here to debate.

I don't debate delusional hopes with crybabies.

good - than go away. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 06:51:53 AM
In the past three months your spelling has gone to shit.  I guess that is further proof of your brain cells demise.

And the excuse that your auto correct is "ON" is laughable.  I guess the constant daily meltdowns are getting to you.  How will survive another 4 years?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 06, 2012, 07:05:02 AM
There is no topic here to debate.

I don't debate delusional hopes with crybabies.

No, but you'll go to NY to meet them.  Fucking creepy stalker.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: dario73 on March 06, 2012, 07:12:26 AM
In the past three months your spelling has gone to shit.  I guess that is further proof of your brain cells demise.

And the excuse that your auto correct is "ON" is laughable.  I guess the constant daily meltdowns are getting to you.  How will survive another 4 years?

First, fix your terrible punctuation and grammar. Don't forget to input the missing words. After that is all done, buy yourself a clue.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 07:46:51 AM
First, fix your terrible punctuation and grammar. Don't forget to input the missing words. After that is all done, buy yourself a clue.

Why don't you do it for me?  Will be interesting to see the insight of an inbred here. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 06, 2012, 07:48:51 AM
why is fox talking about deer that wander into convenience stores in minnesota....   and not this story?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 07:48:58 AM
No, but you'll go to NY to meet them.  Fucking creepy stalker.

No.  Just to expose a fake and fraud.  Though there was no chance of an actual meeting because just as I predicted three months prior, he went into hiding under the lie of having a family emergency.   Nice try though Dumbo.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 07:50:52 AM
why is fox talking about deer that wander into convenience stores in minnesota....   and not this story?

Because even FAUX is not going to jump on a train that crazy.  It takes a special kind of mindset to believe in this crap.  That mindset, of course, is "delusional".


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 06, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
Because even FAUX is not going to jump on a train that crazy.  It takes a special kind of mindset to believe in this crap.  That mindset, of course, is "delusional".

see, I agree obama is shady with these documents, and I think there's something to it. 

but

It's very clear to me that while the sheriff has created a sense of 'things aren't right here' - he hasn't proven his case yet.  You're talking about  kicking the prez out of office.  Without a video of obama being born in kenya, which ain't happening, this story is not going anywhere.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
Because even FAUX is not going to jump on a train that crazy.  It takes a special kind of mindset to believe in this crap.  That mindset, of course, is "delusional".

So Sheriff Joe and all the investigators and lawyers who came up with the report are delusional?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 07:58:09 AM
see, I agree obama is shady with these documents, and I think there's something to it. 

but

It's very clear to me that while the sheriff has created a sense of 'things aren't right here' - he hasn't proven his case yet.  You're talking about  kicking the prez out of office.  Without a video of obama being born in kenya, which ain't happening, this story is not going anywhere.



What if is on tape admitting he was a "foreign student"? 

I have been hearing through the grapevine that AB might has gotten that on tape.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 07:59:55 AM
So Sheriff Joe and all the investigators and lawyers who came up with the report are delusional?

Just like you are.  Well maybe not to that much of a degree... but close.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 06, 2012, 08:00:12 AM
So Sheriff Joe and all the investigators and lawyers who came up with the report are delusional?


yes


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 08:00:51 AM
What if is on tape admitting he was a "foreign student"? 

I have been hearing through the grapevine that AB might has gotten that on tape.   

Grapevine = some blogger from India?  Is that it?

Cause otherwise, you ain't heard shit except for the voices in your head.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 08:01:21 AM

yes

Can you please refute the evidence? 

Why does his SS# not pass E-Verify?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: dario73 on March 06, 2012, 08:08:48 AM
Why don't you do it for me?  Will be interesting to see the insight of an inbred here. 

In other words, you are too stupid to understand your own errors but willing to point out the errors committed by other individuals. That is interesting.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 06, 2012, 08:16:25 AM
In other words, you are too stupid to understand your own errors but willing to point out the errors committed by other individuals. That is interesting.

What's interesting is you haven't pointed out one of the supposed errors yet.

That's struggling.  Keep trying retard. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 06, 2012, 09:26:27 AM
I think all scenarios are possible.   I absolutely think it's plausible they could be savvy enough to recognize the nuances of changing an S to an O, but completely botch another aspect of the forgery.  It's not a case of letting something slide, it's a case of making a mistake, or not being as good at this as they thought.   I don't think it's a slam dunk argument.

I'm passed all this.  Something smells here without a doubt, but I don't think it's going to go anywhere, so I'm not spending too much time on it.  The left has done a great job at creating such a universally dismissive attitude about this subject.

But, it is nice to see you take a legitimate shot at a counter argument, rather than fall in lockstep like the other leftist dipshits here.  They're doing exactly what is wanted of them.

I don't support OB, don't like him, and want him out.  But the birther thing so far is void of any legit arguments.  Yes "all" scenarios are possible.  But this one with the SS card is highly unlikely and any objective review of the charge will concur.  In other words, in an election year, with the repubs not banging this drum, Rush & Savage not banging this drum, none of the candidates banging this drum, none of the main stream conservative news sources such as FOX and Drugdge not banging this drum, should speak all the volume you need.   

Why is that?  is it some conspiracy theory? No.  Its because of the reasons i have listed over an over.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
I don't support OB, don't like him, and want him out.  But the birther thing so far is void of any legit arguments.  Yes "all" scenarios are possible.  But this one with the SS card is highly unlikely and any objective review of the charge will concur.  In other words, in an election year, with the repubs not banging this drum, Rush & Savage not banging this drum, none of the candidates banging this drum, none of the main stream conservative news sources such as FOX and Drugdge not banging this drum, should speak all the volume you need.   

Why is that?  is it some conspiracy theory? No.  Its because of the reasons i have listed over an over.
Its not void of ALL legitimate arguments, clearly they is quite a case that some of these records are forgeries, however that doesnt necessarily equate to him not being born here, there are many plausible possibilities.
HOWEVER, I have to agree with Grape here, something stinks without a doubt, but im sure nothing will come of it because quite frankly, people dont want to know the truth. They have done a great job with the whole "question Obama youre a nut" atmosphere, as far too many people simply dont want to face the fact that the man they all believed in SO DEEPLY was a fraud from top to bottom.

People cant/dont want to think theyve been conned by a man they put so much faith in, believed in so deeply. Its embarrassing for them to have to admit they had the wool pulled over their eyes so easily and so deeply.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 09:49:02 AM
Its not void of ALL legitimate arguments, clearly they is quite a case that some of these records are forgeries, however that doesnt necessarily equate to him not being born here, there are many plausible possibilities.
HOWEVER, I have to agree with Grape here, something stinks without a doubt, but im sure nothing will come of it because quite frankly, people dont want to know the truth. They have done a great job with the whole "question Obama youre a nut" atmosphere, as far too many people simply dont want to face the fact that the man they all believed in SO DEEPLY was a fraud from top to bottom.

People cant/dont want to think theyve been conned by a man they put so much faith in, believed in so deeply. Its embarrassing for them to have to admit they had the wool pulled over their eyes so easily and so deeply.

See - this is where GENERALLY repubs and Demos are different.   I freely admit that although I voted for Bush twice - I think GWB was and is a disaster of biblical measure and that I hate the rinos in DC.   In 2005 , after Bush started pushing amnesty for illegals, harriet meirs, dubai ports, called us vigilantes, etc etc, I became as anti-bush as anyone to the point i was kicked off of freerepublic.  And there were millions like me, which is why that piece of trash left office wth 28% approval.  GWB was and will always be one of the worst pieces of garbage ever to hold office.  He did incalculable damage to the republican party and the nation. 

The democrats are showing no signs whatsoever that they will EVER abandon obama, no matter what he does.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 06, 2012, 09:51:01 AM
Its not void of ALL legitimate arguments, clearly they is quite a case that some of these records are forgeries, however that doesnt necessarily equate to him not being born here, there are many plausible possibilities.
HOWEVER, I have to agree with Grape here, something stinks without a doubt, but im sure nothing will come of it because quite frankly, people dont want to know the truth. They have done a great job with the whole "question Obama youre a nut" atmosphere, as far too many people simply dont want to face the fact that the man they all believed in SO DEEPLY was a fraud from top to bottom.

Give me some legit arguments.  I don't see any.  I haven't since this whole thing started.  And i am not alone either.  Plenty of repubs and others think the same things.  Drudge reported it.  If they were afraid of being label nut jobs they wouldn't have given the time.  

Based on the arguments given OB was born here.  Until something legit pops up no one except those who desperately want OB out of office will see otherwise.  

Quote
People cant/dont want to think they've been conned by a man they put so much faith in, believed in so deeply. Its embarrassing for them to have to admit they had the wool pulled over their eyes so easily and so deeply.

Its not about them!  Its about OB detractors, the repub party, media outlets, candidates.  If there were legit arguments to be made they would all be doing them right now.  Fact is they have enough common sense to see the "sheriff joe" charges and other charges for what they are:  Weak ass cases.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 06, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
See - this is where GENERALLY repubs and Demos are different.   I freely admit that although I voted for Bush twice - I think GWB was and is a disaster of biblical measure and that I hate the rinos in DC.   In 2005 , after Bush started pushing amnesty for illegals, harriet meirs, dubai ports, called us vigilantes, etc etc, I became as anti-bush as anyone to the point i was kicked off of freerepublic.  And there were millions like me, which is why that piece of trash left office wth 28% approval.  GWB was and will always be one of the worst pieces of garbage ever to hold office.  He did incalculable damage to the republican party and the nation. 

The democrats are showing no signs whatsoever that they will EVER abandon obama, no matter what he does.   

Lots of Dems have fled OB. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2012, 09:57:17 AM
Give me some legit arguments.  I don't see any.  I haven't since this whole thing started.  And i am not alone either.  Plenty of repubs and others think the same things.  Drudge reported it.  If they were afraid of being label nut jobs they wouldn't have given the time.  

Based on the arguments given OB was born here.  Until something legit pops up no one except those who desperately want OB out of office will see otherwise.  

Its not about them!  Its about OB detractors, the repub party, media outlets, candidates.  If there were legit arguments to be made they would all be doing them right now.  Fact is they have enough common sense to see the "sheriff joe" charges and other charges for what they are:  Weak ass cases.
::)
Did you not see any of the evidence that was presented? Hell, People on here with KNOWLEDGE of document and forgeries (Hugo i believe) actually said those raised a lot of legitimate questions and those doc's may well be forgeries JUST FROM LOOKING AT WHAT WAS POSTED. You are refusing to look at the inconsistencies on the documents, the numbers, the SS card, all the things they found wrong. Plenty of things that are out of place.

I dont know if you just read what you want, but I actually posted this in that same post!!
This doesnt mean Obama wasnt born in the US.
BUT - it does raise a lot of questions about the LEGITIMACY OF THE DOCUMENTS, maybe not his CITIZENSHIP DIRECTLY, but the LEGITIMACY OF THE DOCUMENTS.

And why are you freaking out about me responding to Grapes comment about the "dont question Obama" atmosphere?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2012, 09:59:00 AM
See - this is where GENERALLY repubs and Demos are different.   I freely admit that although I voted for Bush twice - I think GWB was and is a disaster of biblical measure and that I hate the rinos in DC.   In 2005 , after Bush started pushing amnesty for illegals, harriet meirs, dubai ports, called us vigilantes, etc etc, I became as anti-bush as anyone to the point i was kicked off of freerepublic.  And there were millions like me, which is why that piece of trash left office wth 28% approval.  GWB was and will always be one of the worst pieces of garbage ever to hold office.  He did incalculable damage to the republican party and the nation. 

The democrats are showing no signs whatsoever that they will EVER abandon obama, no matter what he does.   
I think its moreso because Obama ran on the premise as this "saviour" of America, that he was everything "right" with this country and he was going to fix everyone the evil "Bush and Republicans" broke, and people bought it hook line and sinker, they made him into this messianic figure, and its VERY hard for people to drop that image once theyve grasped on to it.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 06, 2012, 10:42:49 AM
I don't support OB, don't like him, and want him out.  But the birther thing so far is void of any legit arguments.  Yes "all" scenarios are possible.  But this one with the SS card is highly unlikely and any objective review of the charge will concur.  In other words, in an election year, with the repubs not banging this drum, Rush & Savage not banging this drum, none of the candidates banging this drum, none of the main stream conservative news sources such as FOX and Drugdge not banging this drum, should speak all the volume you need.   

Why is that?  is it some conspiracy theory? No.  Its because of the reasons i have listed over an over.

Personally, I think they're not going to touch it because of the backlash, unless they have 100% irrefutable proof.   As I stated, the left has done a great job at making this topic completely toxic.  You're a kook if you even try to rationally discuss it.

Regardless, any thinking person can see here are a ton of questions around this guy, from this to the sealing of all the docs.  Those who dismiss it are just drones.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 06, 2012, 10:44:41 AM
Personally, I think they're not going to touch it because of the backlash, unless they have 100% irrefutable proof.   As I stated, the left has done a great job at making this topic completely toxic.  You're a kook if you even try to rationally discuss it.

Regardless, any thinking person can see here are a ton of questions around this guy, from this to the sealing of all the docs.  Those who dismiss it are just drones.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 06, 2012, 11:37:03 AM
Personally, I think they're not going to touch it because of the backlash, unless they have 100% irrefutable proof.   As I stated, the left has done a great job at making this topic completely toxic.  You're a kook if you even try to rationally discuss it.

Regardless, any thinking person can see here are a ton of questions around this guy, from this to the sealing of all the docs.  Those who dismiss it are just drones.

I agree.  Just for the record i think more investigation is warranted.  But, from my point of view, NOTHING worthwhile has come up yet.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2012, 11:42:24 AM
I agree.  Just for the record i think more investigation is warranted.  But, from my point of view, NOTHING worthwhile has come up yet.
As far as him being born out of the US, or as far as the doc's being forged? Because I believe there is plenty of evidence that the documents may be forged and needs to be investigated.
Evidence of him not being a citizen? Ill agree there, but there is enough evidence of documents being forged, and that to me is worthwhile.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 06, 2012, 11:52:34 AM
As far as him being born out of the US, or as far as the doc's being forged? Because I believe there is plenty of evidence that the documents may be forged and needs to be investigated.
Evidence of him not being a citizen? Ill agree there, but there is enough evidence of documents being forged, and that to me is worthwhile.

We are in agreement here.  What we've seen hasn't proven anything but the need for more investigation. The SS card itself is not an issue here. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: jwb on March 07, 2012, 12:20:42 AM
Someone explain to me why his 18 year heavily pregnant mother decided to leave the country to give birth?

Someone come up with one logical reason.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 07, 2012, 09:39:33 AM
Arizona sheriff finds Obama presidential qualifications forged
07.03.2012 14:14


http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-0/#




A singularly remarkable event has taken place in the United States of America. This event occurred in Arizona on March 1st and was an earth shattering revelation.

A long awaited press conference was given by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, a five time elected Sheriff, which should have made national and international headlines. Arpaio's credentials include serving in the United States Army from 1950 to 1953, service as a federal narcotics agent serving in countries all over the world with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), and served as the head of the Arizona DEA. Without doubt, this is a serious Law Enforcement Officer, not one to be taken in by tin-foil-hat wearing loons.

Yet, in the five days since his revelations there has been little in the way of serious reporting on the findings he presented in his presser. With 6 short videos, the Sheriff and his team presented a devastating case, one the tame US press is apparently unable to report.

On April 27, 2011, President Barack walked into the White House Press room with a Cheshire cat like grin and a "Long Form Birth Certificate" from the State of Hawaii in hand.  From the podium in the press room, Mr. Obama said, "We're not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers,". Quite the barb from a man holding a forged document.

That's right, forged.

The president himself created the scene; one filled laughter from an adoring press corp., a scene of unprecedented fanfare while holding a forged document which was later posted on the White House website. This was the news Sheriff Arpaio revealed on March 1, 2012 in Arizona.

Arpaio asserts that his investigators discovered, during a 6 month long investigation which is ongoing, not only was the "Long Form" likely a digitally created forgery, but the presidents Selective Service Card (Draft Card), allegedly filed in 1980, was also a forgery. These documents are what Barack Hussein Obama relies upon to prove his constitutional eligibility to the office of President of the United States.

Forged documents are being used to qualify a President of the United States for the office he holds. Or is usurped the more accurate term?

The silence from the main stream media in the US is deafening. It almost seems as if the press is terrified to even think the question, let alone ask it: Is the President a criminal? The press in Arpaio's audience were certainly asking him to state precisely that, yet nowhere has the question been asked of the White House by the press. Instead the American Press is aggressively protecting the presumed President of the United States, pushing the fraud upon both America and the world, supporting a man who may well have usurped the office.

For months before Mr. Obama released the April 2011 forgery, American businessman Donald Trump had been demanding that the president show the country definitive proof that he was born in the state of Hawaii, and eligible for the Office of President. The birth certificate forgery which was presented by Mr. Obama was in response to the repeated public requests from the billionaire businessman.

One can easily imagine the reaction of the press had this scenario been about George W. Bush in 2004.

On the contrary, the press itself forged documents regarding the 43rd President: Long term CBS newsman Dan Rather lost his credibility along with his job when he presented forged Air National Guard documents allegedly denigrating the president's service in the 1970's. One can imagine the glee evidence presented by law enforcement officials of a real forgery made by President Bush would have generated. The press feeding frenzy would have eclipsed that of Watergate, the most controversial political event in modern America history which led to the resignation of President Nixon in August of 1974.

The questions in the White House Press room would have been merciless to say the very least.

What has been the response from the Obama era press?

Silence.

Silence so loud it can be felt.

What has been the response from the 44th president so far?

A tweet from Obama Campaign press secretary Ben LaBolt, containing a link to the conspiracy theory television show "The X-files" theme song: a mocking, Saul Alinsky like, retort.

High Crimes and Misdemeanors appear to have been committed by the President of the United States or his personal representatives in presenting a forged document to the press and the Nation as a legitimate document, and this information has been delivered from Law Enforcement Officials.

Arpaio refused to take the bait offered by a clearly hostile press in the conference room. He refused to accuse the president directly, instead informing the world that they had a "person of interest" in the forgery, and were continuing with the investigation.

Where is the outrage from the press??

As surreal as this is, it isn't the main event. It's only a part of a larger story.

Citizenship

Years before the 2008 election, Barack Obama was involved in efforts to amend the US Constitution to allowthose who were born to parents who were not citizens to become President along with those born overseas. Those efforts have occurred several times in recent history, and all have failed. It must be intelligently asked why this was a concern at all for the then Senator.

There are two reasons for Obama's concern. The first lay in Article 2 section 1 of the constitution which states: "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,".

Except for Barack Obama.

The second reason  for Obama's concern lies in the Supreme Court of the United States case Minor V. Happersett (88 U.S. 162) 1875 which defines Natural Born Citizen:

"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners." Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168.

This U.S. Supreme Court case decided that Virginia Minor, the plaintiff, could not use the 14th Amendment to claim citizenship and the right to vote because she was a Natural Born Citizen, and therefor unable to lay claim to the statutory citizenship the 14th Amendment gave to former slaves, which included their right to vote. This is the only U.S. Supreme Court case in the history of the United States to clearly define what a Natural Born Citizen is.  It has been cited in dozens of cases since.

This is an issue which cannot be brushed aside by Mr. Obama. His father, Barack Obama Sr. was a student from the British Commonwealth of Kenya, a British Citizen who never sought to become a US Citizen, and indeed was eventually forced to leave the country. Mr. Obama has only one parent who was an American Citizen. Obama clearly does not meet the requirements of Natural Born Citizen as defined by the Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett.

The Founding Fathers, the men who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, discussed these very reasons why no person of divided loyalties, divided nationalities, should ever have command of America's armed forces. Dozens of letters and many debates in the constitutional conventions recorded these concerns, always returning the "Law of Nations", Emerich De Vattel's encyclopedic record of the laws civilized nations had developed over two thousand years of which the founders were clearly aware of in their debates:

"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights."

E. De Vattel  1758 Sec 212 Ch19

Vattel's definition has been accepted since the days the United States was still a motley collection of British Colonies. It has been accepted in no less that 3 Supreme Court Cases, has been accepted in testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives. It is by no means an original source; only recently dug out of dusty tomes in 2008. Indeed, this concept is enshrined in every Nation the world over. Every nation not only accepts, but has enshrined this concept: a person born to two parents who were citizens of that nation and born on its soil was a natural born citizen of that nation.

After his rousing 2004 speech at the Democrat National Convention, Barack Obama was considered a shoe-in for running for president in 2008, and indeed his campaign began that night in Boston. Yet his citizenship was a serious obstacle to his ambitions, and the ambitions of the liberal progressive movement which supported him.

So the efforts to obfuscate Obama's citizenship issues began in earnest. The plan was deviously simple, make certain that people focused on his Hawaiian documents, and minimize the visibility of Minor V. Happersett and Citizenship to the public.

The State of Hawaii

The state of Hawaii's role in this cannot be neglected for several reasons. Hawaii has a couple of legal Achilles heels of its own.

It was well known at the time, that any person could register the birth of a child in the state on a late form with only the signature of a witness (Hawaii Department of Health no longer uses this form). This means of obtaining Hawaiian documents was used frequently by immigrants who needed assistance from the state (such as welfare), and Hawaii needed the federal dollars registering those births brought to the state. Second, and perhaps most importantly, Federal laws with regard to Hawaii had been written to allow a baby receiving state documents to be declared a Citizen of the United States without being subject to the Jurisdiction of the United States:

Sec. 305. [8 U.S.C. 1405] Persons born in Hawaii:

A person born in Hawaii on or after August 12, 1898, and before April 30, 1900, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900.

Missing from this US Statute is the following which appears in the 14th Amendment:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

This disparity created a legal loophole which is specific to Hawaii: A child born in Hawaii, regardless of whether or not they were born in the state and subject to the Jurisdiction of the United States, automatically gained US Citizenship. This is the only state in the United States where this condition existed. This is why Hawaii is so vitally important to Obama, and could explain why it is important enough to forge birth documents for. It is why Obama's birth is being alleged to have occurred there instead of somewhere like Washington State or elsewhere, and is so vitally important.

Obama, by being born in Hawaii, got automatic citizenship status in the United States without regard for whether the United States had jurisdiction over his citizenship. Otherwise, his citizenship would have legally followed his father's, British, as Barack himself admitted on his "Fight the Smears" website during the '08 campaign.

And it only took a witness signature to gain it. It is unknown how many children gained U.S. citizenship through this means. The real citizenship status of these individuals is similarly unknown, and now that it has been discovered that Barack Obama has put forth a forged Hawaiian Birth certificate, his own proof of birth in the state is subject to serious questions by law enforcement officials.

Months before the election of 2008 Barack Obama began deliberately directing public attention to his Hawaiian Records. The Obama campaign, before redirecting the site to "Attack Watch" maintained the "Fight the Smears" website which can still be found on archival websites. The Obama campaign posted the candidate's "short Form" birth certificate with the following information from FactCheck.com:

"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982."

The campaign obviously wanted public attention directed at his birth documents in Hawaii.

The campaign itself created the entire birth certificate controversy, and acted to maintain and fan the flames of that controversy for several truly simple reasons. As long as the public was wondering about what being born under "the British Nationality Act of 1948" meant,  and the birth certificate "birther" controversy in general, they were not looking into laws which would have legally prevented the senator from assuming the role of candidate and then President. Legal cases such as Minor V. Happersett.

This case was, and still is, of tremendous import. Had it been found during the campaign it would have prevented his candidacy, certainly preventing him from taking the oath of office in Jan 2009.

So a campaign to hide Minor V. Happersett was undertaken at the same time.

Justia

Justia.com is a free legal internet research site with a specific, dedicated Supreme Court of the United States server containing nearly every Supreme Court case in American history. It is specifically marketed to law students, non-profit agencies, startup businesses, small businesses and private internet researchers. In short, those who cannot afford either a lawyer or the thousands of dollars a year required by subscription legal search engines such as LexisNexis and WestLaw. Justia leverages the Google Mini internal search engine, and through this, Google.com itself increasing its visibility on nearly any search of American law. Justia.com is owned by Obama supporter Tim Stanley, and began a systematic scrubbing of Minor V. Happersett  in the summer of 2008, erasing the name and specific text quoted from the case, along with specific citations to it out of dozens of Supreme Court cases which cited it over 138 years of American Supreme Court History. The controversy was dubbed "JustiaGate".

The author of this article personally documented and published the scrubbing done by Justia, documented the failure of Tim Stanley's explanation for the "errors", and assisted in the research which connected Justia.com to Public.Resource.Org, where Stanley is on the board of directors. Public.Resource.org is the source of Supreme Court materials in data form Justia.com receives for publication. Public.Resource.org is owned and run by Carl Malamud, and funded in part by the Center for American Progress once run by John Podesta, and funded by George Soros. This is a direct connection to the Soros Foundation, a major source of political donations to Barack Obama and the Democrat Party.

Justia erased "Minor v. Happersett" along with text quoted from the case out of its Supreme Court servers deliberately in an effort to minimize the ability of the public to find the case by searching for it, significantly reducing its apparent importance.

These two separate efforts, raising the profile of the Senator's birth certificate in as controversial a manner as possible, while minimizing the legal role of Minor v. Happersett succeeded. Barack Obama was able to illegally win the election, and illegally take office. It was stolen right in front of the American public.

The house of cards is about to come tumbling down around Barack Obama's ears as the momentum of evidence builds. Law enforcement has found his birth documents to be "highly suspect" as a forgery. His draft card has similarly been found by law enforcement as being "highly suspect" as a forgery. The smoke screen cover created by his birth certificate, hiding Minor v. Happersett in a shadow of false mockery, has been blown away. Leaving the Supreme Court case alone on the stage, glaringly exposing Barack Obama as an usurper, an unconstitutional President of the United States.

The American Press is deliberately hiding the evidence published on the internet about this defrauding of the American public and the deliberate evisceration of the Constitution of the United States. It is hiding Barack Obama's Fraud as it has been revealed by a Sheriff in Arizona. The silence of the American press would be unbelievable if it weren't so blatantly obvious.

It is nearly as egregious as the audacity of Obama's fraud itself.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 07, 2012, 07:57:10 PM

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WND EXCLUSIVE
DID THREATS SILENCE MEDIA ON OBAMA PROBE?
Stunner! Sources say warnings were to not report on Sheriff Joe's results
Published: 2 hours ago
by BOB UNRUH Email | Archive
Bob Unruh joined WND in 2006 after spending nearly three decades writing on a wide range of issues for several Upper Midwest newspapers and the Associated Press. Sports, tornadoes, homicidal survivalists, and legislative battles all fell within his bailiwick. His scenic photography has been used commercially, and he sometimes plays in a church worship band.

NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” you can view it here.

The lead investigator in Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s review of the authenticity of Barack Obama’s birth certificate today unloaded a bombshell about the case: that he was told by sources members of the media were threatened with federal investigations should they continue to report on the birth certificate issue.

Lead investigator Mike Zullo told WND that as he was preparing information to be presented to the public “it was clear that the mainstream media was not going to be in attendance” at the sheriff’s scheduled new conference, where he revealed facts suggesting both fraud and forgery in the image of a Hawaiian birth certificate that the White House released as “proof positive” of Obama’s eligibility for office last year.

“During our investigation, we actually were told [that media] had been threatened with FTC investigations. Commentators [had been] threatened with their jobs,” Zullo said. The threats were so intimidating that some individuals quit their positions over safety concerns for their families, he said.

See how many watched Sheriff Arpaio’s press conference on live-streaming, and discover how you can get more information about the eligibility issue, and tell your friends and neighbors about it.

So the problem became to get the information to the American public in spite of an intentional media blackout, since citizens still must make critical leadership decisions about their government through the election process.

And the result was an ebook that includes the details from the investigation, the evidence that was accumulated, and the questions that remain for Arpaio and his investigators to continue pursuing.

Zullo has been blasted in recent days for coordinating that book project with longtime political writer Dr. Jerome Corsi. Much of the online criticism stems from a single AP article that links Zullo to “well-known political conspiracy writer” Jerome Corsi and includes a statement that Corsi “denied using Sheriff Joe Arpaio … as a promotional tool to sell his books and theories.”

It cites Zullo’s being listed “as the co-author” of the ebook. But it fails to mention the evidence cited by the investigation suggesting those alleged fraud and forgery crimes.

Zullo told WND that he had no interest in working on an ebook, but was faced with the question about how to get the information to the American people absent national media coverage. There were interests outside of Arizona, he was convinced, making obvious efforts to have the information closed down and never allowed to move beyond the borders of the state of Arizona.

Read the results of Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigation.

Zullo told WND that as an investigator he sought transparency in the information released to the media and the people and he just wanted the information made available to everyone who wished a closer look. Zullo said it was not an easy decision. He knew he would be ridiculed by the media if the information was released, but the alternative of allowing the information to be squelched and people kept in the dark was just too much of an injustice. He decided to allow the ebook project in order to disseminate the facts of the case: that there is probable cause to believe Obama’s birth certificate document is a forgery – and the implications that has for the American system of government.

Corsi confirmed that Zullo was very reluctant to be in a position where he found himself. The prospect of being reimbursed financially from his investigation never was Zullo’s intention. But Corsi pointed out that Zullo contributed six months of his time to the investigation. Corsi also said he was acutely aware of the financial sacrifice Zullo made over the last six months, having to devote much of his time to the investigation. The posse investigate was not, in fact, subsidized by taxpayers.

The bigger question, Zullo said, is just exactly how would an investigator or a law enforcement officer ignore findings that suggest a deception at the highest levels of politics in the nation. And how does the national media willfully ignore it. Zullo said this is a very serious and alarming concern. It brings into question the transparent objective vetting of presidential candidates.

“If the evidence took us the other way, and the sheriff proclaimed this thing to be authentic, the news would have traveled from Arizona to New Jersey to Hawaii in milliseconds,” he said. “If I wrote a book about it I would have been hailed a hero.

“All we’re trying to do here is get this information out there and keep it out there. Had the mainstream media done their job, we wouldn’t have done [this book].”

He said now media members have started calling him a “kook” and an “old geezer” for reporting on the facts that resulted from the investigation.

“The media just wants to come destroy people’s credibility,” he said. “They’re trying to vet [investigators] when they should be vetting the next presidential candidate of the United States.”

He said that many people didn’t come forward with their knowledge about Obama “out of fear.”

“The information that we got, which these people refused to step forward with out of fear, but shared afterward, came independently – they don’t even know each other – from distance parts of the country, that investigations of major media outlets [were planned] if they continued reporting,” he said.

“Our system is broken because the vetting process used to rely on the free press. We don’t have a free press any more,” he said.

Although the numbers may have been small, there was support for Zullo’s perspective, even in the media.

In a column at American Thinker, Cindy Simpson quoted Ronald Reagan in support of Zullo’s work.

“Ronald Reagan was fond of saying, ‘Trust, but verify,’” she wrote. “President Obama told us he released his official long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011. Can we trust him, and should we verify?

“Most of the reporters’ questions at the end of [Arpaio's] press conference were statements in defense of Obama, and the subsequent coverage by major news outlets asserted that rumors about the president’s birth certificate were ‘debunked’ and ‘discredited,’ but gave no details of the debunking or discrediting,” she marveled.

“As the sheriff also noted at the conference, no specific or official investigation has ever been reported, unless we can count Savannah Guthrie, apparently the only reporter allowed to touch and photograph the original long-form certificate after it was released, or the two representatives of Factcheck (neither noted as having an relevant professional experience in document examination) who photographed the short-form certification posted in 2008,” she wrote.

“To paraphrase another favorite Reagan quotation, ‘It isn’t so much that the mainstream media are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so,’” she added.

She noted that after they attacked the message, then the reporters at the news conference “questioned the motives of the sheriff and even the political affiliation of the posse’s lead detective, Mike Zullo.”

She said the focal point for a true reporter would be the issue at hand – the validity of Obama’s documents.

“Was the document posted by the White House a scan of an original certified document? Based on the analysis of the posse’s experts, it was not. In fact, the posse has traced the image to a specific computer where it resided a mere 20 minutes before it was uploaded, and has identified a ‘person of interest.’”

She suggest three possible answers: purely innocent anomalies to “touch up” an image and someone purposely tinkering to create the appearance of suspicion.

“Third, if the certificate is indeed an intentional forgery, we have witnessed the greatest fraud of the century,” she said.

“In my local paper, there was not even a single line devoted to the posse’s stunning assertions. What happened to ‘Extra! Extra! Read all about it! The posted birth certificate of a sitting president a possible forgery!’”

Nick Martin at TPM editorialized that the book sale “gives Zullo a financial motive to continue stoking the flames of a conspiracy theory that has been debunked numerous times by an array of independent investigations.”

But the details of those investigations were absent.

The sheriff himself also noted the single side of the issue that was being reported.

In a commentary in the Arizona Republican, he wrote of reporters, “They were practically salivating at the opportunity to embarrass me, my highly capable group of volunteer investigators and literally anyone else who would dare show in interest in the possibility that this investigation would lead to any real credible evidence into what they claim has already been ‘looked into’ or ‘widely debunked.’”

Arpaio also has defended the book.

“We needed a book precisely because we knew in advance the mainstream media would impose a blackout on any serious law enforcement investigation into Obama’s identification documents and his eligibility to be president,” Arpaio told WND.

He explained that the book is intended to bypass the filter the establishment media tries to impose on news. WND provided a live-stream Internet broadcast of the Arpaio press conference last Thursday for the same reason.

Martin wrote that the sheriff also failed to mention that much of the evidence concerned questions about the digital scan “that was already investigated and proven to be false” by another investigative agency, “National Review Online.”

There were signs, however, that the national media’s silence was creating concerns.

Wrote Jeff Crouere at the St. Tammany Slidell Sentry: “Despite a mountain of evidence and new allegations of fraud, the national news media refuses to cover the Obama birth certificate scandal.”

He cited the discoveries from the Arpaio investigation.

“Such a bombshell should have led the national news coverage throughout the country. Instead, it was completely ignored by a corrupt network of media elites who are decidedly liberal and wholeheartedly support Obama’s re-election,” he wrote. “The vast majority of the American people have been denied the truth by a media who want to shield Obama.”

He called reporters nationally “liberal sycophants” and said, “If these allegations had been made about a Republican president there would have been a media firestorm greater than Watergate and Iran/Contra combined.

“Not surprisingly, the media acted like partisan Democrats in the news conference after Arpaio’s team announced their findings. Instead of asking questions about the Obama documents, the reporters were more interested in asking Sheriff Arpaio about his political affiliation, his relationship with the tea party and his motives for the investigation.

“What the media conveniently overlooked was the expert testimony and the evidence presented by Arpaio’s group of investigators. Potentially, a major crime has been committed at the highest levels of our government, and the media attacked the messengers.”



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 07, 2012, 08:15:50 PM
Just some questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 07, 2012, 10:16:22 PM
^^^^^^

You'd think a "lawyer" would have wondered about a few of those things...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 08, 2012, 04:11:53 AM
Oz,
 
I'm a birther, but still, I have to ask...

Why isn't this on the conspiracy board?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 08, 2012, 04:23:24 AM
 :).  Its no longer a ct. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 08, 2012, 04:26:11 AM
:).  Its no longer a ct. 

lolzercopter  ;D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 08, 2012, 06:40:32 AM
we should have a board where all the far right loons can put up all their crazy shit that's backed up with hearsay and speculation,so they pat each other on the back and say, great job  :D :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 08, 2012, 06:42:46 AM
we should have a board where all the far right loons can put up all their crazy shit that's backed up with hearsay and speculation,so they pat each other on the back and say, great job  :D :D

Or we can post videos of hypocritical comedians making fools of themselves?   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 08, 2012, 06:45:23 AM
don't you have to copy and paste some shit from crazyright.com  :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 08, 2012, 07:18:00 AM
^^^^^^

You'd think a "lawyer" would have wondered about a few of those things...

No doubt.  A real one would anyway.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 08, 2012, 07:40:46 AM
don't you have to copy and paste some shit from crazyright.com  :D

look at the blacken calling the pot the kettle.......or something like that.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 08, 2012, 07:45:59 AM
Oz,
 
I'm a birther, but still, I have to ask...

Why isn't this on the conspiracy board?


While it was on drudge I figured it should stay here because it's current news.  I will probably move it soon.  It's almost completely a non issue.  Especially when yu consider some of these questions.  I believe this is another reason why the story has been dropped.   Unless of course you believe FOX news, drudge, and others are really kneepadders in conservative clothing.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 08, 2012, 07:50:13 AM
While it was on drudge I figured it should stay here because it's current news.  I will probably move it soon.  It's almost completely a non issue.  Especially when yu consider some of these questions.  I believe this is another reason why the story has been dropped.   Unless of course you believe FOX news, drudge, and others are really kneepadders in conservative clothing.   


LOL ! ! ! ! 

So your questions are valid and completely dismiss any validity to the claims and ends the debate.


Yet people who have questions about the documents are not valid at all and there should be no further questions whatsoever? 




 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 08, 2012, 08:01:53 AM

LOL ! ! ! ! 

So your questions are valid and completely dismiss any validity to the claims and ends the debate.

Yet people who have questions about the documents are not valid at all and there should be no further questions whatsoever? 

 

No I didn't say it ended the debate.  But its pretty much a slam dunk here.  The SS card thing is pretty much debunked, the BC thing doesn't mean much unless those questions are answered directly. It looks like a good book selling promo more than anything else now that's losing all it's steam as the story is fading. FOXnews, drudge etc unless they arent really conservative leaning media outlets have dropped it, in fact they. All dropped it in like 2 days. 

Who's still beating this drum?  Fringe bias Birther  sites.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 08, 2012, 08:03:14 AM
No I didn't say it ended the debate.  But its pretty much a slam dunk here.  The SS card thing is pretty much debunked, the BC thing doesn't mean much unless those questions are answered directly. It looks like a good book selling promo more than anything else now that's losing all it's steam as the story is fading. FOXnews, drudge etc unless they arent really conservative leaning media outlets have dropped it, in fact they. All dropped it in like 2 days. 

Who's still beating this drum?  Fringe bias Birther  sites.

Why?   Because you say so?  You offered a possible alternative to explain what appears obvious fraud, ND NOT ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE SHOWING ANYONE EVER HAD A TWO DIGIT STAMP OUT OF HONULULU.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 08, 2012, 08:06:47 AM
33,

they prove there are QUESTIONS.   But they don't ANSWER any of them. 

Just showing things are fishy isn't good enought.  911, anthrax, JFK, they're all fishy.  Hell, the underwear bomber was fishy.

But unless you have a smoking gun - and you dont here - it's just a theory.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 08, 2012, 08:09:36 AM
Why?   Because you say so?  You offered a possible alternative to explain what appears obvious fraud, ND NOT ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE SHOWING ANYONE EVER HAD A TWO DIGIT STAMP OUT OF HONULULU.




Might hold up if it's 2010.  But 1980?  32 years ago?  Likely 99.999999% of those stamps are gone.  

And not because I say so, because of the things I listed.  Tell you what I will keep it here for a while, but you need to, or the Birther group needs to come up with something new and relevant.  As with the all Birther CT issues, I think a good rule of thumb is that if they are in the main stream news then they are relavent here.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: FarRightLooney on March 08, 2012, 09:16:56 AM
Did threats silence media on Obama probe?

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/did-threats-silence-media-on-obama-probe/?cat_orig=us (http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/did-threats-silence-media-on-obama-probe/?cat_orig=us)

Stunner! Sources say warnings were to not report on Sheriff Joe's results

by Bob Unruh

The lead investigator in Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s review of the authenticity of Barack Obama’s birth certificate today unloaded a bombshell about the case: that he was told by sources members of the media were threatened with federal investigations should they continue to report on the birth certificate issue.
Lead investigator Mike Zullo told WND that as he was preparing information to be presented to the public “it was clear that the mainstream media was not going to be in attendance” at the sheriff’s scheduled new conference, where he revealed facts suggesting both fraud and forgery in the image of a Hawaiian birth certificate that the White House released as “proof positive” of Obama’s eligibility for office last year.

“During our investigation, we actually were told [that media] had been threatened with FTC investigations. Commentators [had been] threatened with their jobs,” Zullo said. The threats were so intimidating that some individuals quit their positions over safety concerns for their families, he said.
So the problem became to get the information to the American public in spite of an intentional media blackout, since citizens still must make critical leadership decisions about their government through the election process.

And the result was an ebook that includes the details from the investigation, the evidence that was accumulated, and the questions that remain for Arpaio and his investigators to continue pursuing.

Zullo has been blasted in recent days for coordinating that book project with longtime political writer Dr. Jerome Corsi. Much of the online criticism stems from a single AP article that links Zullo to “well-known political conspiracy writer” Jerome Corsi and includes a statement that Corsi “denied using Sheriff Joe Arpaio … as a promotional tool to sell his books and theories.”

It cites Zullo’s being listed “as the co-author” of the ebook. But it fails to mention the evidence cited by the investigation suggesting those alleged fraud and forgery crimes.

Zullo told WND that he had no interest in working on an ebook, but was faced with the question about how to get the information to the American people absent national media coverage. There were interests outside of Arizona, he was convinced, making obvious efforts to have the information closed down and never allowed to move beyond the borders of the state of Arizona.
Zullo told WND that as an investigator he sought transparency in the information released to the media and the people and he just wanted the information made available to everyone who wished a closer look. Zullo said it was not an easy decision. He knew he would be ridiculed by the media if the information was released, but the alternative of allowing the information to be squelched and people kept in the dark was just too much of an injustice. He decided to allow the ebook project in order to disseminate the facts of the case: that there is probable cause to believe Obama’s birth certificate document is a forgery – and the implications that has for the American system of government.

Corsi confirmed that Zullo was very reluctant to be in a position where he found himself. The prospect of being reimbursed financially from his investigation never was Zullo’s intention. But Corsi pointed out that Zullo contributed six months of his time to the investigation. Corsi also said he was acutely aware of the financial sacrifice Zullo made over the last six months, having to devote much of his time to the investigation. The posse investigate was not, in fact, subsidized by taxpayers.

The bigger question, Zullo said, is just exactly how would an investigator or a law enforcement officer ignore findings that suggest a deception at the highest levels of politics in the nation. And how does the national media willfully ignore it. Zullo said this is a very serious and alarming concern. It brings into question the transparent objective vetting of presidential candidates.

“If the evidence took us the other way, and the sheriff proclaimed this thing to be authentic, the news would have traveled from Arizona to New Jersey to Hawaii in milliseconds,” he said. “If I wrote a book about it I would have been hailed a hero.

“All we’re trying to do here is get this information out there and keep it out there. Had the mainstream media done their job, we wouldn’t have done [this book].”

He said now media members have started calling him a “kook” and an “old geezer” for reporting on the facts that resulted from the investigation.

“The media just wants to come destroy people’s credibility,” he said. “They’re trying to vet [investigators] when they should be vetting the next presidential candidate of the United States.”

He said that many people didn’t come forward with their knowledge about Obama “out of fear.”

“The information that we got, which these people refused to step forward with out of fear, but shared afterward, came independently – they don’t even know each other – from distance parts of the country, that investigations of major media outlets [were planned] if they continued reporting,” he said.

“Our system is broken because the vetting process used to rely on the free press. We don’t have a free press any more,” he said.

Although the numbers may have been small, there was support for Zullo’s perspective, even in the media.

In a column at American Thinker, Cindy Simpson quoted Ronald Reagan in support of Zullo’s work.

“Ronald Reagan was fond of saying, ‘Trust, but verify,’” she wrote. “President Obama told us he released his official long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011. Can we trust him, and should we verify?

“Most of the reporters’ questions at the end of [Arpaio's] press conference were statements in defense of Obama, and the subsequent coverage by major news outlets asserted that rumors about the president’s birth certificate were ‘debunked’ and ‘discredited,’ but gave no details of the debunking or discrediting,” she marveled.

“As the sheriff also noted at the conference, no specific or official investigation has ever been reported, unless we can count Savannah Guthrie, apparently the only reporter allowed to touch and photograph the original long-form certificate after it was released, or the two representatives of Factcheck (neither noted as having an relevant professional experience in document examination) who photographed the short-form certification posted in 2008,” she wrote.

“To paraphrase another favorite Reagan quotation, ‘It isn’t so much that the mainstream media are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so,’” she added.

She noted that after they attacked the message, then the reporters at the news conference “questioned the motives of the sheriff and even the political affiliation of the posse’s lead detective, Mike Zullo.”

She said the focal point for a true reporter would be the issue at hand – the validity of Obama’s documents.

“Was the document posted by the White House a scan of an original certified document? Based on the analysis of the posse’s experts, it was not. In fact, the posse has traced the image to a specific computer where it resided a mere 20 minutes before it was uploaded, and has identified a ‘person of interest.’”

She suggest three possible answers: purely innocent anomalies to “touch up” an image and someone purposely tinkering to create the appearance of suspicion.

“Third, if the certificate is indeed an intentional forgery, we have witnessed the greatest fraud of the century,” she said.

“In my local paper, there was not even a single line devoted to the posse’s stunning assertions. What happened to ‘Extra! Extra! Read all about it! The posted birth certificate of a sitting president a possible forgery!’”

Nick Martin at TPM editorialized that the book sale “gives Zullo a financial motive to continue stoking the flames of a conspiracy theory that has been debunked numerous times by an array of independent investigations.”

But the details of those investigations were absent.

The sheriff himself also noted the single side of the issue that was being reported.

In a commentary in the Arizona Republican, he wrote of reporters, “They were practically salivating at the opportunity to embarrass me, my highly capable group of volunteer investigators and literally anyone else who would dare show in interest in the possibility that this investigation would lead to any real credible evidence into what they claim has already been ‘looked into’ or ‘widely debunked.’”

Arpaio also has defended the book.

“We needed a book precisely because we knew in advance the mainstream media would impose a blackout on any serious law enforcement investigation into Obama’s identification documents and his eligibility to be president,” Arpaio told WND.

He explained that the book is intended to bypass the filter the establishment media tries to impose on news. WND provided a live-stream Internet broadcast of the Arpaio press conference last Thursday for the same reason.

Martin wrote that the sheriff also failed to mention that much of the evidence concerned questions about the digital scan “that was already investigated and proven to be false” by another investigative agency, “National Review Online.”

There were signs, however, that the national media’s silence was creating concerns.

Wrote Jeff Crouere at the St. Tammany Slidell Sentry: “Despite a mountain of evidence and new allegations of fraud, the national news media refuses to cover the Obama birth certificate scandal.”

He cited the discoveries from the Arpaio investigation.

“Such a bombshell should have led the national news coverage throughout the country. Instead, it was completely ignored by a corrupt network of media elites who are decidedly liberal and wholeheartedly support Obama’s re-election,” he wrote. “The vast majority of the American people have been denied the truth by a media who want to shield Obama.”

He called reporters nationally “liberal sycophants” and said, “If these allegations had been made about a Republican president there would have been a media firestorm greater than Watergate and Iran/Contra combined.

“Not surprisingly, the media acted like partisan Democrats in the news conference after Arpaio’s team announced their findings. Instead of asking questions about the Obama documents, the reporters were more interested in asking Sheriff Arpaio about his political affiliation, his relationship with the tea party and his motives for the investigation.

“What the media conveniently overlooked was the expert testimony and the evidence presented by Arpaio’s group of investigators. Potentially, a major crime has been committed at the highest levels of our government, and the media attacked the messengers.”


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 08, 2012, 11:22:15 AM
the  media isn't covering it because there is nothing legitimate to cover.

A question to add to these:

Is it just hearsay about the threats or does anyone have any evidence?

Just some questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document? 

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
   

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
   
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
   
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
   
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
   
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 08, 2012, 02:29:40 PM
Just some questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?


Do you really think that some delusional sycophant may have even considered any of the above?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 09, 2012, 04:20:37 AM
ARPAIO INVESTIGATION: OBAMA MIGHT BE KENYAN
Records that could document status mysteriously missing
Published: 9 hours ago




Among the records missing for Barack Obama that would be available for an ordinary president are passport records, school records such as those from Punahou, Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, Harvard Law Review writings, scholarly articles for the University of Chicago, state bar association records from Illinois, Illinois state senate records, the marriage and divorce documents for his mother, his adoption records and others.

Now it has been revealed that the Cold Case Posse assembled by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, Ariz., cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a days-old infant for his birth to be registered in Hawaii.


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The reason? Missing records.

Speculation has held that Obama actually was born in Kenya, and as the son of an American woman and Kenyan father, probably would not have been considered under any circumstances to be a “natural born citizen” of America, as the Constitution demands for presidents.

It’s been revealed that the Kenyan government actually investigated that possibility earlier, without conclusive results.

Now Arpaio’s team, which was assembled to work on a volunteer basis after hundreds of constituents expressed fear that Obama was having his name put on the 2012 election ballot in Arizona using a fraudulent document, has reported that it checked to determine whether a young mother arrived in the United States from Kenya in the days after Obama’s reported Aug. 4, 1961, birth date.

The investigation report said that the records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service cards, which were filled out by passengers of that era arriving on international flights originating outside of the United States, cannot be found.

The investigation sought the records from part of the month of August 1961, and took a researcher to the National Archives in Washington, D.C., where other records of that time and from that time frame are stored.

NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” you can view it here.

It is the records from the week of Obama’s birth that cannot be tracked, investigators confirm.

The Arpaio report said the hunt for airline passenger flight manifests for 1961 for foreign flights landing in Honolulu was an attempt to see if Obama’s mother returned at that time.

“The idea was that if Barack Obama had been born in Kenya, or any other location outside the United States, there should be a passenger record of the airline flight on which she, a new mother, returned to Hawaii with her newly born infant son,” the report said.

But “to date, investigators have not been able to locate the relevant airline passenger flight manifests for 1961.”

What was found were records of cards the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service required all passengers – including both U.S. citizens and foreign citizens – to fill out and file with passport control when arriving in Honolulu from a foreign city of origin.

The report said, “Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in New York on foreign files in 1961 have been found in the National Archives only recently; consequently these records have not yet been examined. Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in Honolulu on foreign files originating around the Pacific rim in 1961 have been examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C.”

The microfilms that were found for the time period include “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 184, INA records from July 28, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961″ and “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 185, INA records from Aug. 8, 1961 through Aug. 12, 1961.”

However, “Remarkably, all INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 – Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185, or any other microfilm reel in the record group,” the report said.

“The National Archives confirmed in a letter written on National Archives stationary that the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself,” the report said.

That leaves open the door that Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was, as others have reported, visiting her husband’s family in Kenya shortly before the birth. Airlines at that time likely would not have allowed a woman expecting to give birth any day to board an extended international flight, thus creating the circumstances for Obama’s birth in Kenya.

WND reported earlier that internal Kenyan government documents reveal Obama’s step-grandmother was interviewed by agents of the National Security Intelligence Service about reports she said Obama was born in the East African nation.

As WND reported that while there’s no proof to date placing Obama’s mother in Kenya for the birth, a disputed taped telephone conversation in which step-grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama purportedly claimed he was born in the coastal city of Mombasa became an Internet sensation after its submission in a lawsuit challenging the president’s eligibility.

Philip J. Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general, included a transcript of the taped Oct. 16, 2008, telephone interview and sworn affidavits in a filing with the U.S. Supreme Court after lower courts dismissed as frivolous his Aug. 21, 2008, complaint alleging Obama was born in Mombasa.

Critics challenge statements on the telephone call, which was conducted through an interpreter. But two members of the Obamas’ Luo tribe who are fluent in the local Luo dialect, Swahili and English, have told WND that after carefully listening to the tape they believe she declared Barack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya and that she was present at the birth.

Kenya’s NSIS later investigated those statements, according to official government letters. WND also confirmed two letters purportedly written by Kenya’s immigration secretary during the 2008 U.S. presidential election campaign stated that officials in Nairobi could not find evidence Obama was born in Kenya. But the official said the government had “information” that relevant birth records may have been removed or were missing.

An “interim report” by the NSIS issued in September 2008 “concludes that a birth certificate in the name of Barack Hussein Obama may have been issued” in Kenya “but to confirm this would require a further thorough joint investigation” by the NSIS and Kenya’s Central Intelligence Department, or CID.

The report said that none of several investigations by various officers has been conclusive and that some leads require further investigation “because it appears some powerful forces as it were are hell bent in defeating this investigation.”

The government reported some hospital records appeared to be missing.

Further, a 2009 internal NSIS report (page 1 and page 2) said conflicting stories suggest the “the Obama family is trying to hide something but are not doing a very good job of it.”

The report said, “We have also investigated Mama Sarah to find out if she is speaking the truth but she had come out as vague and incongruent. In one interview with Mama Sarah Obama our officers recorded that Mama Sarah says she cannot remember if she attended the birth of Barack Obama or visited his parents at the Coast Provincial General Hospital around the official birthday of Barack Obama. But she confessed to have had part of her family there at around the same time. Some of her brothers were already working in Mombasa. In a second interview done much later, she says that she is sure Barack Obama was born in Mombasa because she was visiting her family there when he was born, and they were called to the CPGH (Coast Provincial General Hospital) where she met Barack Obama’s mother for the first time.”

The report said she later was hostile and gave conflicting testimony about the issue.

The NSIS also reported that there were multiple alterations and insertions in the hospital records, suggesting that someone was trying “keep off track any investigations into this case.”

There also was official correspondence involving Emmanuel Kisombe, the permanent secretary in the Ministry for Immigration and Registration of Persons, who in July 2008 told the U.S. ambassador about the possibility that Obama was born in their country.

He suggested an investigation. He wrote, “We have instructions from the Head of Civil Service and Secretary to the Cabinet carrying out directions of the Cabinet sub-committee on Security and Foreign Relations to investigate and report on efficacy of reports that Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic Party aspirant in the United States could be Kenyan-born.”

He cited “numerous intelligence reports that [Obama] might have been born in Mombasa at the Lady Grigg Maternity Wing of the Coast Provincial Hospital.”

Harvard-educated Dr. Jerome Corsi, who has written several books about Obama, wrote a year ago about the theories involving a Kenyan birth for Obama.

He cited the documentation that the Immigration and Naturalization Service suspected the marriage between Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Obama Sr. to be a sham.

And there is the fact that within weeks of the birth, Dunham moved to Seattle to take night classes at the University of Washington.

Because of the absence of information, the reasons for some of those events remain unclear. But he noted in a column, “That Ann Dunham did not return to Honolulu until after Obama Sr. left in September 1962 to begin his graduate studies at Harvard suggests the possibility an estrangement between the conception of the baby and the birth had eliminated or eroded whatever bond might have existed between the two.

“Perhaps Ann hoped that she could persuade senior members of the Obama family in Kenya that she was a well-chosen daughter-in-law and her son was a desirable grandson,” he continued. “With her leftist ideological vision and the many comments she made to friends after arriving in Seattle with her infant son, Ann Dunham may well have harbored the hope of becoming the Eva Peron of Kenya.

“If Ann Dunham had been successful in persuading Obama Sr. and his family in Africa to accept her, she might have ended up in the desirable position of being the U.S.-born wife of a U.S.-educated Kenyan husband, who faced bright political prospects after he returned to Kenya with an advanced graduate degree obtained from a prestigious U.S. university,” his analysis said. “With the last six months of her pregnancy missing in her documentable chronology, it’s possible she was not in Hawaii during that time. Air travel from Honolulu was becoming increasingly more accessible to the average person by 1961.”

He said, “That Ann Dunham was rejected both by the Obama family in Kenya and by Obama Sr. in Honolulu also provides an explanation for her precipitous decision to leave Honolulu as quickly after the baby’s birth as possible. Hope followed by rejection would then define the emotions that explain Dunham’s behavior during her 1961 pregnancy.”

He said, “Moreover, if the baby was born in Kenya, the actual date of birth might have been earlier than Aug. 4, 1961. Very possibly, the grandparents decided to register the baby’s birth with the Hawaii Department of Health when they knew their daughter was returning to Honolulu from Africa.

“That Ann Dunham as an 18-year-old took an infant baby to Seattle by herself to rent an apartment and begin night courses would make more sense if the baby had been born in Kenya earlier than Aug. 4, 1961, the date of birth consistently advanced in the official Obama nativity story.”

The Cold Case Posse dismissed so-called evidence of two newspaper announcements in Honolulu citing Obama’s birth, explaining that those same announcements also listed foreign infants as Hawaii-born, as well as listing 3-year-olds as newborns.

Under Chapter 57 of the 1955 Revised Law of the Territory of Hawaii, a family in 1961 could report a birth as Hawaiian with merely the word of a family member or witness.

That there was reason for members of his family to claim a Hawaiian birth was documented by the state of Hawaii. In a 1955 paper by Robert Bennett, the chief of the Bureau of Health Statistics of the Hawaii Department of Health, he explained the vital records system he was then implementing for the Hawaiian Islands, which soon would be a state.

In an article entitled “Vital Records in Hawaii,” published in the Hawaii Medical Journal, Vol. 15, No. 2, November-December 1955, Bennett and his co-author, George Tokuyama, chief of the Registration and Records Section, wrote:

“The requirement of a birth certificate throughout the country to show citizenship, during World War II, gave a great impetus to the completeness of registration. This and other factors have made a birth certificate the principal document an American citizen uses to prove legal facts about himself. Almost every parent knows that a baby must be registered soon after birth, not only to meet requirements of the law, but to protect the child later in life.”

There also have been conflicting reports from Obama family members about which Hawaii hospital was his birth location, and neither has been able to provide any documentation confirming it.

There also have been discrepancies reported in the image of Obama’s birth certificate that the White House purported was “proof positive” of a Hawaiian birth, including an out-of-sequence number.

Even Obama speculated about missing records. On page 345 of his autobiography “Dreams from My Father,” Obama seems to indicate proof of his ancestry was lacking in a reference to his father’s third wife, Ruth Nidesand, and his half brother, Mark Obama Nidesand.

“Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark’s father was,” he writes. “So of all the Old Man’s kids, Mark’s claim is the only one that’s uncontested.”

Further, research has revealed that on his INS paperwork filled out the same month Barack Obama Jr. was born, Barack Obama, Sr. incorrectly lists his wife’s name as “Ann S. Dunham” instead of “Stanley Ann Dunham,” and he neglected to mention that he had any children.

Obama Sr. also listed his address at 1482 Alencastre St. in Honolulu, a bachelor apartment he never shared with his wife or child.

And passport documents released for Barack Obama Jr.’s mother by the State Department on July 29, 2010, did not include any birth certificate documentation for him, despite one hand-written memo to the file claiming he was born in Honolulu.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 09, 2012, 07:56:01 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2012, 08:21:23 AM
is this sheriff retired?  or is he using AZ tax dollars to conduct his own partisan witch hunt?

why the hell isn't ISSA or some other national person doing this?  Some local podunk sheriff doing it?  Let me guess - is the sheriff selling a book?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 09, 2012, 08:23:47 AM
is this sheriff retired?  or is he using AZ tax dollars to conduct his own partisan witch hunt?

why the hell isn't ISSA or some other national person doing this?  Some local podunk sheriff doing it?  Let me guess - is the sheriff selling a book?


You are a birther yourself no?   Don't you want the truth? 

Why not start here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVO8MZYXo8 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 09, 2012, 08:29:55 AM
is this sheriff retired?  or is he using AZ tax dollars to conduct his own partisan witch hunt?

why the hell isn't ISSA or some other national person doing this?  Some local podunk sheriff doing it?  Let me guess - is the sheriff selling a book?

the investigator is selling his report as a book

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3CYEWW1-Hg


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2012, 08:36:19 AM
You are a birther yourself no?   Don't you want the truth?   

youre preaching to the choir, dog.

i'm a birther.  i admitted it before you did ;)

I feel Issa should be introducing an investigation.  They punked Clinton for fibbing about a BJ.  We're talking about an illegal presidency.  yet the repubs are crying about birth control?  playoffs?  lol


Sorry 33, but the GOP are a bunch of coward bitches who won't investigate obama for it.  If this investigator gave a shit, this book would be a free download.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 09, 2012, 08:40:45 AM
youre preaching to the choir, dog.

i'm a birther.  i admitted it before you did ;)

I feel Issa should be introducing an investigation.  They punked Clinton for fibbing about a BJ.  We're talking about an illegal presidency.  yet the repubs are crying about birth control?  playoffs?  lol

Sorry 33, but the GOP are a bunch of coward bitches who won't investigate obama for it.  If this investigator gave a shit, this book would be a free download.

It's not they Are cowards, it's that there is nothing Legit to go on.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 09, 2012, 08:44:03 AM
Hahahaha....  Keep the attention on the delusional bullshit in hopes that no one will notice the weak ass candidates you got running against Obama.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 09, 2012, 08:55:55 AM
Like I said, FOX news must be a liberal media news source.  Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2012, 08:58:27 AM
It's not they Are cowards, it's that there is nothing Legit to go on.

there are some serious questions.  For me, the doctored images/documents, missing files, and timing of his vacations to hawaii (with power out) and kenya after being elected (to do who knows what) are enough smoke to say an investigation is a good idea.

But I also admit this sheriff hasn't proven a thing.  He's shows it's fishy.  No proof of faked though.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 09, 2012, 09:15:51 AM
there are some serious questions.  For me, the doctored images/documents, missing files, and timing of his vacations to hawaii (with power out) and kenya after being elected (to do who knows what) are enough smoke to say an investigation is a good idea.

But I also admit this sheriff hasn't proven a thing.  He's shows it's fishy.  No proof of faked though.

I Am favor of more investagation, but until something concrete comes up, NO ONE with any credibility will push it. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 09, 2012, 09:17:41 AM
I Am favor of more investagation, but until something concrete comes up, NO ONE with any credibility will push it. 

How can anything be uncovered when obama himself is hiding everything and not releasing any data?



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2012, 09:18:34 AM
I Am favor of more investagation, but until something concrete comes up, NO ONE with any credibility will push it.  

true.  which is wrong too.

people should be able to say "wow, that's fishy.  I'm not going to accuse obama, but that's a lot of photo doctoring, document changes, and shit that smells funny" without being labeled a nut.

Same way about a lot of other things.  It used to be only the CTers on message boards who were pissed the FBI destoryed all their anthrax spores so we couldn't identify which lab delivered the shit that hurt people.   Obviously a coverup, and we found out later the CTers were right - a govt employee sent it.

SO the CTers get a lot of shit right.  But they shouldn't jump to conclusions either.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2012, 09:20:24 AM
How can anything be uncovered when obama himself is hiding everything and not releasing any data?


you can't make assumptions beacuse he doesn't want to release shit.

Mccain and palin woudln't release detailed medical info.  Was one or both hiding HPV or other disease?  Between mccain's fun days while married or Palin's glen rice and other situations - we can't just assume they have STDs, abortion history, and other shit because of it, right? 

All they gave us was a paragraph on palin "She's in great health" and a quick glance thru mccain's medicines.  But we can't jump to conclusions, right?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 09, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
So where is the released information? I checked CNN this morning and Obama hasn't been impeached.  What gives?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Option D on March 09, 2012, 09:33:45 AM
So where is the released information? I checked CNN this morning and Obama hasn't been impeached.  What gives?
DUDE... thats what im thinking.. weve hear about 14 different reasons that 3333 said obama should be impeached or in prison...legally.. but nothing what gives


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Straw Man on March 09, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
DUDE... thats what im thinking.. weve hear about 14 different reasons that 3333 said obama should be impeached or in prison...legally.. but nothing what gives

he'll be resigning any day now



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 09, 2012, 10:43:19 AM
he'll be resigning any day now



And seeking a pardon.

Any day now.  Any....day.....


 ::)

Watching a loser hold on to such fevered delusions is so amusing.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 09, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
true.  which is wrong too.

people should be able to say "wow, that's fishy.  I'm not going to accuse obama, but that's a lot of photo doctoring, document changes, and shit that smells funny" without being labeled a nut.

Same way about a lot of other things.  It used to be only the CTers on message boards who were pissed the FBI destoryed all their anthrax spores so we couldn't identify which lab delivered the shit that hurt people.   Obviously a coverup, and we found out later the CTers were right - a govt employee sent it.

SO the CTers get a lot of shit right.  But they shouldn't jump to conclusions either.

Questioning is not what gives CT'ers the nut job label.  It's the suspension of logic, common sense, and the willingness to believe things based on little or no evidence, the refusal to accept and admitt factual information or altogether ignore it, the in ability to qualify and take I to account facts, cherry picking anomalies while ignoring mountains of other evidence to the contrary, etc. 

Simple as that.   That's the difference between real investigative reporting, or research versus, CT nuttery.  Your boy 3333333 is doing just that right now, he's off the deep end at the moment and is quickly losing all objective reasoning.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 09, 2012, 07:03:54 PM
SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO SAYS CRIMINAL FRAUD In Obama Birth Certificate AND Selective Service Card - Category:(default)
SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO SAYS CRIMINAL FRAUD In Obama Birth Certificate AND Selective Service Card



An investigative “Cold Case Posse” begun in 2011 by “America’s toughest sheriff” – Joe Arpaio of Arizona’s Maricopa County concluded during a March 1, 2012 news conference that there is probable cause that the document released by the White House last year as President Obama’s birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery!

Analyst Steve Beaman, a number crunching genius who sold one of his companies to Charles Schwab that is now known as the Schwab Equity Rating, is available to discuss the political and economic implications of such high profile allegations.

Beaman explains how investigators did conducted their analysis. He says that the register stamp and date stamp in government documents are safety features to verify the authenticity of their documents. But the fact that those stamps on documents purported by Obama as being genuine were actually imported from outside sources showing with certainty that it was fraudulent.

Furthermore its 'safety verification stamps’ were completely moveable to any point of the document. No original birth certificate circa the date of Obama's birth could possibly have had such movable computerized elements. So the purported birth certificate was an assembly of words, stamps and seals, rather than a cohesive single document consistent with technology of the 1960s. All and all it is not unlike securities fraud or counterfeiting money, except the stakes are higher in this case with Obama’s billion dollar campaign possibly coming down like a house of cards.

The posse, Beaman says, has identified at least one person of interest in the alleged forgery of Obama’s birth certificate.

Arapaio, known for his strict enforcement of immigration laws, commissioned the investigative team after local citizens presented him with a petition expressing concern that Obama might not be eligible for Arizona’s presidential ballot.

The posse, comprised of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, has interviewed dozens of witnesses and examined hundreds of documents. It also has taken numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.

Mike Zullo, Arpaio’s lead investigator, said his team believes the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in a systematic effort to hide from public inspection any original 1961 birth records it may have in its possession.

Zullo said, “Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have.”

The investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.

The investigation was launched after 250 members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, presented a signed petition to Arpaio in August 2011 asking him to undertake the investigation.

The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was used to place Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.

The Cold Case Posse advised Arpaio that they believe forgers committed two crimes. First, they say it appears the White House fraudulently created a forgery that it characterized as an officially produced governmental birth record. Second, the White House fraudulently presented to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery represented as “proof positive” of President Obama’s authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.

In addition, investigators say they have developed credible evidence that President Obama’s Selective Service card was a forgery, based on an examination of the postal date stamp on the document. Also, records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama’s purported birth.

At the end of Sheriff Arpaio’s presentation of the findings of his cold case posse, members of the mainstream news media went ballistic, clearly showing they had no interest in the truth of the matter but only being interested in blindly defending Obama and demonizing the investigators.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 09, 2012, 07:06:50 PM
i like any article that uses exclamation marks a lot.


"Obama’s birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery!"

it's like the reporter is yelling at us with glee.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 09, 2012, 08:17:37 PM
"At the end of Sheriff Arpaio’s presentation of the findings of his cold case posse, members of the mainstream news media went ballistic, clearly showing they had no interest in the truth of the matter but only being interested in blindly defending Obama and demonizing the investigators."

Clearly an unbiased journalist.....  ::)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 10, 2012, 04:32:45 AM
"At the end of Sheriff Arpaio’s presentation of the findings of his cold case posse, members of the mainstream news media went ballistic, clearly showing they had no interest in the truth of the matter but only being interested in blindly defending Obama and demonizing the investigators."

Clearly an unbiased journalist.....  ::)

Really?   Did you watch it?   That quote s spot n.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2012, 06:26:32 PM
Michelle Obama Goes Beserk Over Birth Certificate Findings
(ACN Staff)  When Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse released its findings and announced that there is "probable cause" to believe that the "birth certificate" released by Team Obama in April is a "computer generated forgery," the liberal media yawned, but allegations are now surfacing that at least one person in the White House, namely First Lady Michelle Obama, is frantic and in a beserk frenzy over the Cold Case Posse's findings.

According to a report released by the supermarket tabloid, The Globe, Michele Obama "went beserk when she learned the results of the investigation."  According to an inside source: "Michelle stormed into the Oval Office and blasted" Obama for not knocking down the scandal long ago.  The report goes on to state that while she is furious with Arpaio, she is "even more burned up at Barack" and the incident has "thrown their marriage into chaos."

Of course, insiders have long speculated that the marriage has been in chaos for quite some time.  As reported back in December, allegations also surfaced that Michelle Obama is having a secret affair with an unnamed Secret Service agent; and accusations by Larry Sinclair that he smoked crack cocaine and had an affair with Barack Obama in the back of a limo, some years back, refuse to go away.

Understandably, the media does not typically report on unsubstantiated claims from anonymous sources, but that standard has become fuzzy as of late.  We all remember the media feeding frenzy over unsubstantiated allegations against businessman Herman Cain, which literally sank his candidacy, and the reluctance of the media to report any credible claims that bolstered the contention that Cain was innocent of the unsubstantiated charges. 

Why is the liberal media refusing to even investigate these claims?  Where is Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the conservative media? Such inconsistent standards of reporting leave the question open: will the media pursue, or even bother to investigate what should be the story of the century? 

Unsubstantiated claims are one thing.  Cold hard evidence is another and it should go without saying that the findings of the Cold Case Posse should be a game changer.

A legitimate and duly constituted law enforcement investigation, that obtained sworn affidavits and testimony from graphics experts, law enforcement experts and private citizens, has uncovered compelling evidence that the "birth certificate" released by Team Obama is a computer generated forgery and that the man who is presently occupying the Oval Office is potentially occupying that office as a result of fraud and forgery.

While the liberal media is doing everything in its power to ignore the findings of Arpaio's Cold Case Posse, Obama can't ignore the findings; and if Mike Zullo, the lead investigator for Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse, is correct, not only is Team Obama not ignoring the findings, but the media's see-no-evil attitude may not simply be the result of liberal bias.

Zullo just released another huge bombshell: “During our investigation, we actually were told [that media] had been threatened with FTC investigations. Commentators [had been] threatened with their jobs” and the "threats were so intimidating that some individuals quit their positions over safety concerns for their families."

Author Jerome Corsi added more fuel to this growing fire when he recently stated: "Testimony is being developed that the White House is intimidating, in a systematic way, the mainstream media and if any broadcasters dare go into this birther story, they're going to risk FCC investigations... people are going to have careers ruined... thrown off the air."

Obviously, there is more going on than meets the eye and hopefully, more information will be forthcoming. Corsi claims that the evidence that the Cold Case Posse presented at the press conference was just  "the tip of the iceberg" and he adds: "There are very deep and important revelations that are being worked on and they are systematically coming out in the next few weeks."

Once again, we are left to ask, where is the liberal media? Why is the reporting on such shocking allegations only coming from the supermarket tabloids? Why is Obama not being properly vetted and will the media eventually catch up to the tabloids and investigate these pile of stories that could sink the Obama presidency? 

Only time will tell... Developing.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2012, 06:28:17 PM
According to a report released by the supermarket tabloid, The Globe

oh boy...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2012, 06:30:11 PM
oh boy...

They got Edwards right. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Shockwave on March 12, 2012, 06:41:05 PM
oh boy...
The globe... yeah.. oh boy... No offense 333, but the globe isnt exactly quality journaling, if you know what im saying.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2012, 06:43:10 PM
The globe... yeah.. oh boy... No offense 333, but the globe isnt exactly quality journaling, if you know what im saying.

any time I can get a cheap shot or kick on the ground against Obama and mo, wherever it comes from, I go for it.   ;D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2012, 07:21:02 PM
I thought national enquirer broke the edwards story?

they are usually very good at the affair things.  They got frank giffords, they got edwards, they were never sued by palin ;)

the globe, not so sure about that - tell us why FOX isn't touching this story. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2012, 07:25:01 PM
I thought national enquirer broke the edwards story?

they are usually very good at the affair things.  They got frank giffords, they got edwards, they were never sued by palin ;)

the globe, not so sure about that - tell us why FOX isn't touching this story. 

They are all scared to death of this story. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2012, 07:33:42 PM
They are all scared to death of this story. 

why is fox scared of this story?

theyve worked to destroy obama for 5 years now. 
suddenly they FINALLY have the story to do it - and they avoid it?   ;)

Why?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2012, 07:35:49 PM
why is fox scared of this story?

theyve worked to destroy obama for 5 years now. 
suddenly they FINALLY have the story to do it - and they avoid it?   ;)

Why?


because while it's fun to trash yje Kenyan commie - this truth would lead to burning cities.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2012, 07:38:58 PM
because while it's fun to trash yje Kenyan commie - this truth would lead to burning cities.

so anyone who supports investigating the birth cert issue also supports destroying american cities?

Is that what youre saying, 33?   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2012, 07:40:35 PM
so anyone who supports investigating the birth cert issue also supports destroying american cities?

Is that what youre saying, 33?   


you know what I am eluding to. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 12, 2012, 07:41:32 PM
you know what I am eluding to. 

you think there will be riots if it's shown obama faked the birth cert?

see i disagree.   people are so jaded.  they'd laugh, share some funny pics on their facebook wall, and shrug it off.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 05:53:30 AM
you know what I am eluding to. 

No we don't.  Because all you "elude to" are falsehoods and fabrications of a fractured brain.

It really must suck to have such a bitter existence.  I don't know how you can keep your head out of the oven while dealing with such massive insecurities and self loathing traits.  It can't be healthy.  We already see what a little liar and fraud it has turned you into.

Maybe the Globe can spring for you some professional help.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 13, 2012, 06:05:06 AM
any time I can get a cheap shot or kick on the ground against Obama and mo, wherever it comes from, I go for it.   ;D

which is why you have literally zero credibility in such matters. As passionate as you are about these things and as often as you post about them, you have shot yourself in the foot so many times you aren't taken seriously. You explain why yourself in the above post. It doesn't matter to you if what you post is true or not, if it is negative against Obama, you'll post it. For a "lawyer", you don't display any of the typical charactaristics of someone who deals in facts and evidence for a living


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 06:12:48 AM
which is why you have literally zero credibility in such matters. As passionate as you are about these things and as often as you post about them, you have shot yourself in the foot so many times you aren't taken seriously. You explain why yourself in the above post. It doesn't matter to you if what you post is true or not, if it is negative against Obama, you'll post it. For a "lawyer", you don't display any of the typical charactaristics of someone who deals in facts and evidence for a living


LOL.   I have long since made up my mind on obama.   He is the most digsuting, dishonest, deranged, lying communist ghetto race hustler i have ever seen on the national stage, as are those morons who voted for him.   

The rest is all gravy.   




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 13, 2012, 06:19:05 AM

LOL.   I have long since made up my mind on obama.   He is the most digsuting, dishonest, deranged, lying communist ghetto race hustler i have ever seen on the national stage, as are those morons who voted for him.   

The rest is all gravy.   




That's cool, you don't like Obama. You don't need any credibility to dislike him. You DO need it if you want to affect others opinions of him which obviously by the massive amount of postings about him, you do. Just sayin' if you want people to actually read your posts for any reason other than to hand you your ass, you might want to stop posting drivel and at least make an attempt to post something other than Globe qoutes and video's that have been debunked over and over... but whatever..


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:20:26 AM
LOL.   We have long since made up our minds on you.  You are lying shitbag perpetrating a fake little life as a "lawyer" on the net when in reality you are a pathetic little shut in, living with mommy and an imaginary girlfriend, who spends every waking minute on an epic internet cut and paste quest.

You have shown that your racism and hatred are fueled by your own insecurities and self loathing.  You don't care if a story is true or not.  You simply want an excuse to whine and cry.

Cry and post your little photoshop pics and all will be better.   ::)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 06:20:39 AM
That's cool, you don't like Obama. You don't need any credibility to dislike him. You DO need it if you want to affect others opinions of him which obviously by the massive amount of postings about him, you do. Just sayin' if you want people to actually read your posts for any reason other than to hand you your ass, you might want to stop posting drivel and at least make an attempt to post something other than Globe qoutes and video's that have been debunked over and over... but whatever..

What video has been debunked?  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:22:33 AM
which is why you have literally zero credibility in such matters. As passionate as you are about these things and as often as you post about them, you have shot yourself in the foot so many times you aren't taken seriously. You explain why yourself in the above post. It doesn't matter to you if what you post is true or not, if it is negative against Obama, you'll post it. For a "lawyer", you don't display any of the typical charactaristics of someone who deals in facts and evidence for a living

I called bullshit on this lawyer claim years ago.  Could you imagine any judge allowing someone that behaves like an autistic child be in their courtroom?  I think not.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 06:25:40 AM
I called bullshit on this lawyer claim years ago.  Could you imagine any judge allowing someone that behaves like an autistic child be in their courtroom?  I think not.

Lets bet 100k today - deal? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 13, 2012, 06:29:01 AM
I called bullshit on this lawyer claim years ago.  Could you imagine any judge allowing someone that behaves like an autistic child be in their courtroom?  I think not.

Well, he says he isn't a criminal lawyer. Odds are he may be in some field where he never deals with people. Possibly files paperwork etc. Anything involving people skills, communication skills or critical thinking are out. My guess would be paralegal at best.  

We can't swing a dead cat without hitting an attorney in my city and I've met some attorneys that you have to wonder how they graduated high school, much less college. So he MAY be some type of legal dude but given his rantings and misuse of facts, ignorance of evidence and logic, since he has ruled out traffic court lawyer, I'm stumped..   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:32:21 AM
Lets bet 100k today - deal? 

You don't have 100K.

And I already told you over and over how we would settle this.  Instead you want to do this "online shit".

 ::)

You had your chance and you hid the whole time I was in NYC.  Chickenshit.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:33:43 AM
Well, he says he isn't a criminal lawyer. Odds are he may be in some field where he never deals with people. Possibly files paperwork etc. Anything involving people skills, communication skills or critical thinking are out. My guess would be paralegal at best.  

Bicycle messenger for the real lawyers in court.  Cold caller for collection agency. 

But then again... that would require him to actually log off the internet.  When has that ever happened?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 06:37:20 AM
You don't have 100K.

And I already told you over and over how we would settle this.  Instead you want to do this "online shit".

 ::)

You had your chance and you hid the whole time I was in NYC.  Chickenshit.

I have over 100k liquid in my operating account alone I am willing to put on the line this second. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 13, 2012, 06:38:38 AM
I have over 100k liquid in my operating account alone I am willing to put on the line this second. 

why didn't you meet up with him when he was in NY?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:39:20 AM
I have over 100k liquid in my operating account alone I am willing to put on the line this second. 

Then fly down and prove who you are.

Simple as that.  Of course you won't because you are a liar.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:42:17 AM
why didn't you meet up with him when he was in NY?

Because he was chickenshit.  He wanted to email all these other people a photo of his degree, permit, etc...  But when I told him that all I wanted to see was his driver's license so he could prove that the person in the picture was really him, then I would accept any other evidence as long as the name on it matched the name on his driver's license.

We made this bet 4 months in advance.  4 months in advance I predicted that he would run and hide.  It turned out exactly as I predicted it.  No surprise. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 06:43:17 AM
Because he was chickenshit.  He wanted to email all these other people a photo of his degree, permit, etc...  But when I told him that all I wanted to see was his driver's license so he could prove that the person in the picture was really him, then I would accept any other evidence as long as the name on it matched the name on his driver's license.

We made this bet 4 months in advance.  4 months in advance I predicted that he would run and hide.  It turned out exactly as I predicted it.  No surprise. 

I posted pics while I was in California in Pacific Palisades   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:50:10 AM
I posted pics while I was in California in Pacific Palisades   

Where? 

I asked for these last week and you never produced them.    ::)

No surprise.  I knew you would run away and not settle the bet.  Everyone else knew it too.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 06:51:11 AM
Where? 

I asked for these last week and you never produced them.    ::)

No surprise.  I knew you would run away and not settle the bet.  Everyone else knew it too.

100k today - yes or no?   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 06:56:51 AM
100k today - yes or no?   

You going to show me your driver's license today?

Yes or no?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 07:00:51 AM
You going to show me your driver's license today?

Yes or no?

I told you - i trust Hugo or Ozmo - both not fans of me to be the judge.   You are a gay jilted pedo who will likely stalk me and try to pull a scam.     


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
Ahh.. there we go.  The old "internet bullshit" bet. 

Which is exactly what I told you I was not doing.  And here we go with the gay comments. 

Face it.  In addition to be a closet fag with these projections, you are a chicken shit fraud.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 07:09:45 AM
Ahh.. there we go.  The old "internet bullshit" bet. 

Which is exactly what I told you I was not doing.  And here we go with the gay comments. 

Face it.  In addition to be a closet fag with these projections, you are a chicken shit fraud.

100k today - yes or no? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 07:12:46 AM
Show me your DL today.

yes or no?

Really, it is this kind of stupidity you display when someone has to tell you the EXACT same thing over and over again that cements the fact that most of us don't even think you have a high school diploma.

Now carry on with the gay comments and projections.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 07:19:05 AM
Show me your DL today.

yes or no?

Really, it is this kind of stupidity you display when someone has to tell you the EXACT same thing over and over again that cements the fact that most of us don't even think you have a high school diploma.

Now carry on with the gay comments and projections.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 07:21:57 AM
Photoshopped pics?  No surprise.   ::)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Option D on March 13, 2012, 07:32:00 AM
Is he impeached or charged with forgery or some shit. Im trying to follow the story. Doesnt seem to be popping up on the news. You would think that earth shattering news like "there is irrefutable proof that the president is ineligable" would be running 24/7. Clinton got a BJ and it got more coverage.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 07:42:23 AM
Is he impeached or charged with forgery or some shit. Im trying to follow the story. Doesnt seem to be popping up on the news. You would think that earth shattering news like "there is irrefutable proof that the president is ineligable" would be running 24/7. Clinton got a BJ and it got more coverage.

Didn't you hear?  It was in The Globe.  They can't run this news story anywhere else because otherwise people would be torching cities over it.

 ::)

Try to twist your brain around that bullshit.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 13, 2012, 08:50:11 AM
Its a sad thing when hatred clouds objectivity.

Kind of the same thing that happened in Germany 1934.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 13, 2012, 08:53:33 AM
Knock Knock......

Who's there?
Kenya
Kenya who?

Kenya show me your birth certificate?




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 13, 2012, 08:55:40 AM
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/03/joe_arpaios_birther_squad_thin.php (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/03/joe_arpaios_birther_squad_thin.php)

Joe Arpaio's "Birther" Squad Thinking President Obama Was Born in (You Guessed it) Kenya

For the latest dive into the loony bin from Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's "Birther" posse, they've concluded that President Obama -- get this -- "might be Kenyan."

Arpaio's pals over at World Net Daily continue to release the latest conspiracy theories from the posse, and it's not getting any more credible.

Why are they opting for Kenya? Because he's black "the posse cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a days-old infant for his birth to be registered in Hawaii."

This shocking news comes two days after the posse's lead "investigator," Mike Zullo, claimed media members were "threatened with FTC investigations" if they actually took this stuff seriously.

The FTC must've forgot to throw New Times' number in the Rolodex, because we never got that call.

"The threats were so intimidating that some individuals quit their positions over safety concerns for their families," Zullo apparently told Arpaio's pals at the World Net Daily.

Yet again, there's a grand total of zero evidence provided, and no one seems to be defending Arpaio on this "investigation," including the conservative magazine National Review, which wrote the following earlier in the week:

    Republicans who have chosen to associate with the birthers have done their party and their country a disservice. And as Sheriff Arpaio settles comfortably into that political mental ward, the same must be said of those Republicans who choose to associate themselves with him more broadly. Those who cannot distinguish between the birthers' flim-flam and the critical questions that face our nation in 2012 will not win and do not deserve to
.


Meanwhile, while Arpaio's publicizing Unicorn hunts, we still have yet to receive word about that unsolved sex-crime tally decreasing.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 13, 2012, 09:21:08 AM
Then fly down and prove who you are.

Simple as that.  Of course you won't because you are a liar.

You'll do anything to meet him, huh.  You are the creepiest stalking fuck on these boards......


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 09:46:21 AM
Oh look... it's the ovarian crab coming along to try to save his girl.

Calling someone on their bullshit and lies = stalking?  LOL!!  Keep trying bitch. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 13, 2012, 09:59:15 AM

Calling someone on their bullshit and lies = stalking?  LOL!!  Keep trying bitch.  

If someone took the time to go through your post history, how many of your posts would be yelling at 33, calling him names, asking to meet him?   70%, 80%?  Seriously, you're obsessed.

There is no you without him.  It's really disturbing.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Option D on March 13, 2012, 10:00:29 AM
If someone took the time to go through your post history, how many of your posts would be yelling at 33, calling him names, asking to meet him?   70%, 80%?  Seriously.


Damn g...how much is 333 paying you?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 10:04:39 AM

Damn g...how much is 333 paying you?

Fail - Grape is but one of many who notices Lurkers' sick obsession w me.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 10:05:32 AM

Damn g...how much is 333 paying you?

25% of that imaginary 100K he wanted to bet.

Hahaha... I love how no one actually addresses the fact that ... what was it now?  70%, 80% ???...  ::) ... of my posts is calling his bullshit out.  None of his little ovarian cuddlers want to discuss that little part.  

Republicans obviously have a much higher tolerance for lies and bullshit than other people.  Not surprising since it mostly seems to originate from them.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Option D on March 13, 2012, 10:06:20 AM
Fail - Grape is but one of many who notices Lurkers' sick obsession w me.   

You act like you dont start threads with his name it.. and if he is obsessed with you.. you are obsessed with blacken...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 10:07:37 AM
Fail - Grape is but one of many who notices Lurkers' sick obsession w me.   

Calling you out on your bullshit = obsession?  Hahahaha....  now really, how can a short, fat, bald middle age italian crybaby who sits on the internet 24/7 inspire any kind of obsession in anyone?  Really?  How?  Ask your imaginary girlfriend if she agrees.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 13, 2012, 10:07:51 AM

Damn g...how much is 333 paying you?

Nada.  I just think Lurker's one of the those who not just internet disturbed, but actually fucked up behind the keyboard as well.   He's very creepy - and it's nothing partisan or anything like that.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 10:09:45 AM
Nada.  I just think Lurker's one of the those who not just internet disturbed, but actually fucked up behind the keyboard as well.   He's very creepy.

Poor baby.  Like anyone gives a shit what you think.  When you get tired of nursing from those ovaries of 333 that you are clinging to, you can come over and suck my cock.  Get a taste of what a man is like.

If you think I am creepy, what do you call a 40+ year old that sits at home on the net all day crying?  And lying nonstop.  Pretending to be a lawyer.  With an imaginary girlfriend?  Is that normal for you?  Oh wait.. don't answer.  It probably is you stupid fuck.

In the meantime, keep up the bitch ride.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 10:09:57 AM
You act like you dont start threads with his name it.. and if he is obsessed with you.. you are obsessed with blacken...

Blacken and i bust each others balls.  

Lurker is no doubt going to show up on my door step one day with Mike's Hard Lemonade "concerned" for my safety.  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 10:13:16 AM
Blacken and i bust each others balls.  

Lurker is no doubt going to show up on my door step one day with Mike's Hard Lemonade "concerned" for my safety.  

Yeah.  Because short, fat, bald crybabies really give off the vibes of "power bottom".  Bay told me that.  Gotcha. 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
Yeah.  Because short, fat, bald crybabies really give off the vibes of "power bottom".  Bay told me that.  Gotcha. 



You seem awfully angry today. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 10:32:08 AM
You seem awfully angry today. 

Really?  And yet I haven't made a single thread or post where I wished death on someone, talked about how I enjoyed getting low blows and kicks on them while they are on the ground, hoped my gov't collapsed or wanted a nuke to go off in the country.

But I seem angry?  What does that make you, little crybaby?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Grape Ape on March 13, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
Poor baby.  Like anyone gives a shit what you think.  When you get tired of nursing from those ovaries of 333 that you are clinging to, you can come over and suck my cock.  Get a taste of what a man is like.

Well, there's no more confusion around your sexuality now.


If you think I am creepy, what do you call a 40+ year old that sits at home on the net all day crying?  And lying nonstop.  Pretending to be a lawyer.  With an imaginary girlfriend?  Is that normal for you?  Oh wait.. don't answer.  It probably is you stupid fuck.

In the meantime, keep up the bitch ride.

The fact that you think this and can't resist responding to him proves my point.   Weirdo.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 11:09:29 AM
^^ Ovarian crab can't handle the truth.

Suck it bitch.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
^^ Ovarian crab can't handle the truth.

Suck it bitch.

You need help.  PM Chad or Bay as they can give you comfort.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 13, 2012, 11:17:37 AM
tell me again how Obama claims to be a Muslim?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2012, 11:22:54 AM
tell me again how Obama claims to be a Muslim?


"Prettiest sound of ever heard was muslim call to pray"

"my muslim faith"

Attended a madrassa

No baptism records

"HUSSEIN"

Egyptian FM said Obama told him he was a muslim on his trip to Cairo 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 13, 2012, 11:28:56 AM

"Prettiest sound of ever heard was muslim call to pray"

"my muslim faith"

Attended a madrassa

No baptism records

"HUSSEIN"

No baptism records? Are you SERIOUS??  ::)

Egyptian FM said Obama told him he was a muslim on his trip to Cairo 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
You need help.  PM Chad or Bay as they can give you comfort.   

Is that who you got your shirtless pics of Barney Frank from?  Does your imaginary girlfriend know about those?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 13, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
I got baptised back in '74... where can I find my baptism records? The Church closed down


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 13, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
I got baptised back in '74... where can I find my baptism records? The Church closed down

This is proof you are Kenyan


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on March 13, 2012, 04:25:27 PM
I got baptised back in '74... where can I find my baptism records? The Church closed down

This is proof you are Kenyan

 ;D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 14, 2012, 04:29:45 AM
This is proof you are Kenyan

And going to hell too.  You better find that receipt.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2012, 05:38:55 AM
And going to hell too.  You better find that receipt.

what's hilarious is seeing "no record of baptism" as evidence for being Muslim.... I mean ...c'mon!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 05:43:39 AM
what's hilarious is seeing "no record of baptism" as evidence for being Muslim.... I mean ...c'mon!

there is no record of his adoption by lolo soetoro, no passports records of him traveling to pakistan, no name change documents from barry soetoro to barack obama, no records of anything. 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2012, 05:45:07 AM
there is no record of his adoption by lolo soetoro, no passports records of him traveling to pakistan, no name change documents from barry soetoro to barack obama, no records of anything



then tell me how the hell this guy who came from no where managed to become President of the UNited States when the Republicans would have sold their mothers to keep him out??


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 05:50:40 AM
then tell me how the hell this guy who came from no where managed to become President of the UNited States when the Republicans would have sold their mothers to keep him out??

It was all brought up and the tidal wave of screams of racism drowned out all the Hope & Change bullshit in 2008 by the dummies and msm who ignored everything about his past. 

Can you show me documents of his adoption and name change?   



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2012, 05:54:38 AM
It was all brought up and the tidal wave of screams of racism drowned out all the Hope & Change bullshit in 2008 by the dummies and msm who ignored everything about his past. 

Can you show me documents of his adoption and name change?   



It's not my responsiblity to prove he is an american citizen. The burden of proof is on you and your kind.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 05:57:16 AM
It's not my responsiblity to prove he is an american citizen. The burden of proof is on you and your kind.



When you refuse to release anything whatsoever and spend $2,000,000 to keep everything concealed, only a brain dead dolt thinks he is legit.

 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 14, 2012, 05:57:41 AM
then tell me how the hell this guy who came from no where managed to become President of the UNited States when the Republicans would have sold their mothers to keep him out??

The State of Hawaii pulled the greatest scam in mankind.  Didn't you know?

Despite that Fox can't find shit, McCain didn't find shit, and the Clinton machine didn't find shit on him... he has been revealed by The Globe and an internet shut in on a message board.

 ::)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 14, 2012, 05:58:44 AM
It's not my responsiblity to prove he is an american citizen. The burden of proof is on you and your kind.

Don't you love how stupid people want you to make their arguments for them?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 06:22:52 AM


Hehehehe

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/03/joe_arpaios_birther_squad_thin.php (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/03/joe_arpaios_birther_squad_thin.php)

Joe Arpaio's "Birther" Squad Thinking President Obama Was Born in (You Guessed it) Kenya

For the latest dive into the loony bin from Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's "Birther" posse, they've concluded that President Obama -- get this -- "might be Kenyan."

Arpaio's pals over at World Net Daily continue to release the latest conspiracy theories from the posse, and it's not getting any more credible.

Why are they opting for Kenya? Because he's black "the posse cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a days-old infant for his birth to be registered in Hawaii."

This shocking news comes two days after the posse's lead "investigator," Mike Zullo, claimed media members were "threatened with FTC investigations" if they actually took this stuff seriously.

The FTC must've forgot to throw New Times' number in the Rolodex, because we never got that call.

"The threats were so intimidating that some individuals quit their positions over safety concerns for their families," Zullo apparently told Arpaio's pals at the World Net Daily.

Yet again, there's a grand total of zero evidence provided, and no one seems to be defending Arpaio on this "investigation," including the conservative magazine National Review, which wrote the following earlier in the week:

    Republicans who have chosen to associate with the birthers have done their party and their country a disservice. And as Sheriff Arpaio settles comfortably into that political mental ward, the same must be said of those Republicans who choose to associate themselves with him more broadly. Those who cannot distinguish between the birthers' flim-flam and the critical questions that face our nation in 2012 will not win and do not deserve to
.


Meanwhile, while Arpaio's publicizing Unicorn hunts, we still have yet to receive word about that unsolved sex-crime tally decreasing.
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Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 14, 2012, 06:26:38 AM
333.... prove that pink elephants wearing blue tutu's are not orbiting uranus on yellow and orange tricycles.... betcha can't prove they dont..


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 14, 2012, 06:28:42 AM
333.... prove that pink elephants wearing blue tutu's are not orbiting uranus on yellow and orange tricycles.... betcha can't prove they dont..

LMAO!!!!!



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 06:44:29 AM
Why Obama’s Birth Certificate Matters, Especially Now

 - Selwyn Duke  Wednesday, March 14, 2012


http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/45233

 

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There was a time when someone could perhaps justify sitting on the fence on the matter of Barack Obama’s birth certificate.  There were those on the left who could chalk doubts about its authenticity up to conspiratorial Internet paranoia.  As for the right, there was every reason to worry about being the victims of an Alinsky-style set-up designed to marginalize opponents.  In other words, let the other side double-down on an incredible claim, and then, at the most opportune time (October surprise?), provide irrefutable evidence to the contrary and make them look like deluded wackos.  So, for a long time, one might have had cause to watch, wait, and let the wheels of investigation render their judgment.

 

That judgment is in and the time for waiting is over.

With the results of Maricopa County, AZ, sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” an incredible claim has become an incredible situation: a team of professional investigators, commissioned by a major law-enforcement agency, has determined that the alleged birth certificate produced by the president of the United States is a probable forgery.

Process that for a moment.  The regime of the world’s most powerful nation – a republic that prides itself on adherence to the rule of law – is likely peddling a forged document.  What say you, citizen?

 

Note that I didn’t claim the president isn’t natural-born.  Rather, I claim nothing but am only stating a fact: there is now no denying that the birth-certificate matter warrants further investigation, and it is time for other law-enforcement agencies and the media to show due diligence.  And I will spell out the possibilities here:

1.The Arizona investigators are correct.
2.They are mistaken.
3.They are lying.

For the record, I don’t believe the last for a moment, but I do want to cover all the bases.  And home plate is this: the answer may be number one or two, and it’s incumbent upon us to find out through further investigation.  And, for those who dislike Sheriff Arpaio, what if the answer is three?  Well, if a major law-enforcement agency is producing fraudulent evidence for the purposes of damaging a sitting president, wouldn’t that warrant investigation, too?  The undeniable, irrefutable fact here is that there is smoke.  And we need to find out who started the fire.

In response to these facts the left will sometimes mount an argument for why Obama is, in fact, natural-born.  But this issue is at the moment secondary.  And about it I will merely state that there are only two possibilities.  First, if the allegedly forged birth certificate relates to the president’s natural-born status, then it’s clear that the Obama administration is more concerned about that status than are his defenders.  And what if it doesn’t relate to whether the president is natural-born?

Then it relates to something else.

You don’t present a forged a document for no reason.  The undeniable, irrefutable fact here is that there is smoke.  And we need to find out what is feeding the fire.

Remember, too, that document forgery is a crime.  If you were found benefitting yourself through it, you’d be prosecuted.  Should the president be held to a lower standard?

In point of fact, on the part of the media and citizenry, he must be held to a higher one.  We’re not talking here about some kid who forged an ID so he could drink at 18 in a bar.  This is the most powerful man in the world, who, it appears, may be passing off a forgery for some mysterious – or not so mysterious – reason.  This mystery needs to be solved.

Having said this, I wrote “may” for a good reason.  There are those who believe, as writer Cindy Simpson put it, that “perhaps someone purposely tinkered with the document in order to make it look…suspicious.”  Harking back to my first paragraph, such an Alinskyite tactic would give the right just enough rope to hang itself, especially with our black-hooded media.  After all, the thinking goes, if this isn’t the case, why would the most powerful man in the world produce such a bush-league forgery?
Yet there is another, more mundane explanation.

Incompetence.

As I and others have noted, the slackers at the Obama White House are notorious for not even being able to issue press releases with proper spelling and grammar.  So would it be shocking that they might be more Inspector Clouseau than James Bond when trying to be the KGB?  Having said this, we should proceed with caution, being careful to not overstate our case. 

But we should proceed.  After all, consider the consequences of allowing a high crime such as the one alleged here to go unanswered. If Obama is willing to fob off a forgery on the American people, what else is he capable of?  If he gets away with it, what else will he do?  Remember that in every case in history in which a leader amassed more power for himself by gradually undermining his nation’s democratic system, he had millions of enablers.  These were the crowds Cicero spoke of that cheered “ambitious scoundrel” Julius Caesar as he paved his way to dictator status.  These are the “good men” Edmund Burke referred to who do nothing in the face of evil.  Sometimes, of course, they’re simply scared.  Other times they may not want to seem like a nutty Chicken Little saying the sky is falling.  Or they may not want to accept that it actually is, so they rationalize and dress the naked emperor with their eyes.  After all, when a problem is daunting or scary, the self-delusion that allows one to ignore it can be appealing. 

Most people also don’t want conflict; they may fear a constitutional crisis.  But know that if Obama is peddling a forged document, it may simply be another example of how we already are in a constitutional crisis.  The only question now is whether we’re going to fight the fire or continue to fiddle while the Constitution burns. 

 
  Selwyn Duke
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Selwyn Duke iSelwyn Duke is a writer, columnist and public speaker whose work has been published widely online and in print, on both the local and national levels. He has been featured on the Rush Limbaugh Show and has been a regular guest on the award-winning Michael Savage Show.  His work has appeared in Pat Buchanan’s magazine The American Conservative and he writes regularly for The New American and Christian Music Perspective.

Selwyn can be reached at: selwynduke@optonline.net

 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 06:57:28 AM
The Arizona investigators traded in common sense for hate.  So it's possibility #2 and maybe a little #3


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 06:58:51 AM

Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 14, 2012, 07:30:03 AM
Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?



You didn't get an answer to this the last time you posted it.  Wonder why??


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 14, 2012, 08:58:13 AM
Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?



3333 your response?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 08:59:05 AM
To what?  Half of the questions are pure idiocy, and the other half need to be directed at Zullo and Sheriff Joe. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 09:26:14 AM
To what?  Half of the questions are pure idiocy, and the other half need to be directed at Zullo and Sheriff Joe. 

 ::)

This is another way of saying:  I can't answer them, and i will still believe in fairy tales anyway.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 09:26:45 AM

Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 14, 2012, 10:18:35 AM
To what?  Half of the questions are pure idiocy, and the other half need to be directed at Zullo and Sheriff Joe. 

Which ones are "pure idiocy"?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
Which ones are "pure idiocy"?

Any and all legit questions such as:

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document? 

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
   

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
   
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
   
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
   
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
   
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?


(in case you are wondering  :D ;D)


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 10:59:46 AM
If you had listened to the presser - this thing is still going on.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 11:18:49 AM
If you had listened to the presser - this thing is still going on.  

Yeah it's all over the news.  There is a big market for loon jobs. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 11:24:32 AM
Yeah it's all over the news.  There is a big market for loon jobs. 


LOL  - so has there been any refutation as of yet at what they produced? 

any other 2 digit stamps out of hawaii from that post office in that month? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 11:30:18 AM

LOL  - so has there been any refutation as of yet at what they produced? 

any other 2 digit stamps out of hawaii from that post office in that month? 

Tons, so much so that fox news and drudge are now both liberal bastions of news reporting.

Meanwhile loon jobs continue to forage for anything relevant:

No baptism records = born in Kenya

No college records = born in Kenya

Can't find all letters mailed in 1980? = born in Kenya

Last name Hussain = born in Kenya

Black president = born in Kenya


It's a world wide conspiracy by liberal fascists who are reptilian descendants of Hitler. 

Yes Ayers and Wright are the Queen retiming aliens who have a secret base in Kenya where all rap music and future presidents are hatched and fed into e American main stream.

By he time 2016 hits the circle will be complete we will be the United socialist states of north America.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 11:31:20 AM
Which ones are "pure idiocy"?

The fact that you asked this question must mean you were born in Kenya.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 14, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
::)

This is another way of saying:  I can't answer them, and i will still believe in fairy tales anyway.

The truth will come out when the Flying Spaghetti monster gives a Tell-All interview with the Globe.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 12:49:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaajbOEWpk


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 14, 2012, 12:59:09 PM
So he'll be removed? I just read CNN maybe they're late to the party? Please explain 333...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 01:12:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaajbOEWpk


Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?


[/quote]


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 14, 2012, 01:36:13 PM
The fact that you asked this question must mean you were born in Kenya.

I was born in the same village as Obama.  ;D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: blacken700 on March 14, 2012, 01:37:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4bESzvXwD8


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: whork on March 14, 2012, 02:27:50 PM

A Maricopia County Sheriff in Arizona investigating the President of The United States who was born in Hawaii???  Gee, I can't wait to hear this breaking news..... ::)

Sounds like a bad movie :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 14, 2012, 03:28:18 PM


Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?



[/quote]


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 07:11:27 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/donald-trump-say-it-is-so-sheriff-joe




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 07:25:36 PM


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Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 14, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
Sheriff Joe on Obama Investigation: 10 Times Worse Than Watergate; Biggest Media Blackout in History
BirtherReport.com ^ | March 12, 2012 | Mark Gillar
Posted on March 14, 2012 1:26:09 PM EDT by Seizethecarp

(@2:40 on Part II of the interview)

Gillar: With regard to Andrew Breitbart...something suspicious about his untimely death...do you think it's something that should be investigated?

Arpaio: You know, I go back to Watergate. I wasn't involved, but I knew all the characters that were involved. Dick Kleindienst, former attorney general, we were very close when I was regional director. G. Gordon Liddy, he and I ran an operation under Nixon to intercept...actually crackin' down on the US-Mexican border, so I knew a lot about the Watergate. As I say I think this situation is probably ten times worse than Watergate if we ever get to the bottom of it. So, you know, being a law enforcement guy for fifty years I'm always suspicious, sometimes...many times. So you know there have been some deaths I believe connected with Watergate way back. But, you know, there's always conspiracy theories, but don't we...doesn't law enforcement work on conspiracies? Isn't that one way we hook people on conspiracies? So what's wrong with saying there could be a conspiracy?

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords. blogspot.com ...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 15, 2012, 04:21:34 AM

Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?





LOL!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on March 15, 2012, 05:02:05 AM
yeah, seriously, if you want to be looked at legitimiately, dont SELL your book.

surely there are enough donations for the task of 'breaking down a document using photoshop'.  Outside of that, it's not like they are running ccommercials.

Jerome Corsi tried that big book launch - with drudges help on the presale - and obama released the long term BC to pwn that.

Now we see this guy selling a book - sorry, but CTers are great customers.  The scarier the CT, the more time you have freaked out people refreshing compulsively at 3 am.  It's a good business.  So while this guy does make some interesting points which need investigated, his selling a book does limit his credibilitiy.

In other words, the author has huge motivation to keep this narrative of a fake BC going. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 15, 2012, 08:05:18 AM
Biggest media blackout? Are you serious? Journalists LIVE for stories like this.  A president that isn't American? That would be covered by everyone worldwide.  There is no blackout because there is no evidence.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 15, 2012, 10:55:57 AM
You don't need evidence to be "proof positive".


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 15, 2012, 02:11:45 PM
Most Mexicans were born in Kenya


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 16, 2012, 04:15:44 AM
Most Mexicans were born in Kenya

Those double illegal communist bastards.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 06:44:10 AM
Forgerygate: Ignoring Arpaio's report is a scandal in itself
The Washington Times 24/7 ^ | 3-15-2012 | Jeffery Kuhner

Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:52:58 PM by Danae

s President Obama’s birth certificate a forgery? Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz., believes it is. He recently held a press conference in Phoenix to discuss the findings of a new 10-page report. Mr. Arpaio’s investigators have come to a stunning conclusion: The long-form birth certificate Mr. Obama released last year is a “computer-generated forgery.”

With the exception of The Washington Times, however, no major U.S. media outlet reported this bombshell story. The liberal press corps is desperately trying to suppress any discussion of Forgerygate — potentially one of the biggest scandals in American history. The media class is betraying its fundamental mission to pursue the truth.

“Based on all of the evidence presented and investigated, I cannot in good faith report to you that these documents are authentic,”

((snip))

The Washington Times story, written by Stephen Dinan, points out that Mr. Arpaio has called for Congress to investigate the matter. Think about this: A high-profile sheriff orders a team of former law enforcement officials to examine whether the president is truly a natural born citizen and that he has the constitutional and legal right to occupy the White House. Their official report is that Mr. Obama’s documents are shoddy and he likely engaged in deliberate fraud. And yet, most of the American press corps doesn’t believe this is an important news story? The liberal media has become rotten to the core.

Ironically, the foreign press reported widely on the story. For example, Pravda — that’s right, the former official organ of the Soviet Communist Party — did an extensive analysis of Mr. Arpaio’s findings. The article by Dianna Cotter asks the obvious question: What are U.S. journalists afraid of?

Read more at: http://times247.com/articles/forgerygate-ignoring-arpaio-s-report-is-a-scandal-in-itself




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 16, 2012, 07:13:37 AM


Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?  

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
    

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
    
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
    
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
    
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
    
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
    
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?




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Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 16, 2012, 07:16:21 AM
LOL!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2012, 10:01:16 AM
"The Washington Times story, written by Stephen Dinan, points out that Mr. Arpaio has called for Congress to investigate the matter. Think about this: A high-profile sheriff orders a team of former law enforcement officials to examine whether the president is truly a natural born citizen and that he has the constitutional and legal right to occupy the White House. Their official report is that Mr. Obama’s documents are shoddy and he likely engaged in deliberate fraud. And yet, most of the American press corps doesn’t believe this is an important news story? The liberal media has become rotten to the core."

I don't know.. could it be that there is no merit to the report? Could THAT be why the media, both conservative and liberal are not that interested? They were all over the Monica Lewinsky thing.. the Watergate thing, the Travel-gate thing, the Edwards thing... Press goes into battle alongside soldiers so probably not a scaredy cat thing... Could it be.... and I know this sounds outrageous... could it be they examined the "evidence" and found it sorely lacking? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 10:02:23 AM
"The Washington Times story, written by Stephen Dinan, points out that Mr. Arpaio has called for Congress to investigate the matter. Think about this: A high-profile sheriff orders a team of former law enforcement officials to examine whether the president is truly a natural born citizen and that he has the constitutional and legal right to occupy the White House. Their official report is that Mr. Obama’s documents are shoddy and he likely engaged in deliberate fraud. And yet, most of the American press corps doesn’t believe this is an important news story? The liberal media has become rotten to the core."

I don't know.. could it be that there is no merit to the report? Could THAT be why the media, both conservative and liberal are not that interested? They were all over the Monica Lewinsky thing.. the Watergate thing, the Travel-gate thing, the Edwards thing... Press goes into battle alongside soldiers so probably not a scaredy cat thing... Could it be.... and I know this sounds outrageous... could it be they examined the "evidence" and found it sorely lacking? 


Where is the refuation of what they presented on a FACTUAL basis?   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 16, 2012, 10:06:19 AM

Where is the refuation of what they presented on a FACTUAL basis?   

Refutation by whom? This is on par with the 9/11 conspiracy.  You have a state involved, hundreds if not thousands of people involved, and not one opponent in politics can come up with something that actually sticks. 

As for the liberal media bullsh*t come on.  Spitzer was a liberal was he not and yet he was found out right? This is tin hat level stuff.  The burden of proof is not on Obama, it's on this idiot sheriff to prove his case.  He hasn't done that one bit.  In fact you can't even refute was Ozmo posted can you?



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2012, 10:09:14 AM
There are some allegations that aren't worthy of a response. I recall some local court wanted to subpeona the president to prove he is a citizen. Really? Does he have to respond to every wild allegation out there? The Republicans and right wing media took their shot, couldn't prove their case.. and we've moved on...well, most of us have..


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 10:15:18 AM
There are some allegations that aren't worthy of a response. I recall some local court wanted to subpeona the president to prove he is a citizen. Really? Does he have to respond to every wild allegation out there? The Republicans and right wing media took their shot, couldn't prove their case.. and we've moved on...well, most of us have..

The SS # alone deserves an investigation.   Despite Ozmo's putrid attempts to distract from the obvious, there is little doubt some serious garbe is going on there.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 16, 2012, 10:16:57 AM
The SS # alone deserves an investigation.   Despite Ozmo's putrid attempts to distract from the obvious, there is little doubt some serious garbe is going on there.   

Yeah don't let objectivity and common sense get n the way, instead subscribe to hatred as your guiding light to reason. 

You do it well.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 16, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
The SS # alone deserves an investigation.   Despite Ozmo's putrid attempts to distract from the obvious, there is little doubt some serious garbe is going on there.   

Why has nothing been proven?  Don't give me some media conspiracy, the media LIVES for scandals.  That is how is sells.  An exclusive on Obama's birth would be HUGE but yet no one has taken it up.  Why?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 16, 2012, 10:51:09 AM
Also, why has no other media outside of America taken this up? They love scandals too.  Rupert Murdoch would LOVE to nail this in the UK tabloids.  Why hasn't even he got this story? He has money, motive, and opportunity.  Why hasn't he done so? He had no problem hacking phones illegally and you're telling me he couldn't or wouldn't do that same to uncover a story as big as the US president not being born in America?



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 10:52:14 AM
Why has nothing been proven?  Don't give me some media conspiracy, the media LIVES for scandals.  That is how is sells.  An exclusive on Obama's birth would be HUGE but yet no one has taken it up.  Why?

really?  Like the LAT holding on to an obama tape w him an Rashid Khalidi they refuse to release?  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 16, 2012, 10:55:03 AM
really?  Like the LAT holding on to an obama tape w him an Rashid Khalidi they refuse to release?  

So according to you this tape is the ONLY piece of evidence? No other news media in the whole world could find something? Only this tape? wow talk about tin foil crazy!

Hahaha "only a tape held by the LA Times is keeping the truth from being set free!"



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 16, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
Its a huge conspiracy started in 1961 and only the birther loon, i mean 3333 is wise enough to see it.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
So according to you this tape is the ONLY piece of evidence? No other news media in the whole world could find something? Only this tape? wow talk about tin foil crazy!

Hahaha "only a tape held by the LA Times is keeping the truth from being set free!"



no, its but one example of the leftists guilt ridden white jew controled media protecting the black marxist ghetto thug welfare leech obama presidency  


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 16, 2012, 10:58:56 AM
no, its but one example of the leftists guilt ridden white jew controled media protecting the black marxist ghetto thug welfare leech obama presidency  

What about Murdoch? He's got motive, money and opportunity?

SO wait, you're telling me that the WHOLE media, every single person, is in on a conspiracy that Obama is Kenyan?

Hahahahahahaha


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 16, 2012, 10:59:29 AM
no, its but one example of the leftists guilt ridden white jew controled media protecting the black marxist ghetto thug welfare leech obama presidency  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a bot.

You remind of John Candy in Peace core now  HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 11:00:33 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a bot.

You remind of John Candy in Peace core now  HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA

the medica and leftists are on record protecting obama in 2008 from any scrutiny. 

too bad brain dead leftists like yourself fell for the scam.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 16, 2012, 11:01:09 AM
the medica and leftists are on record protecting obama in 2008 from any scrutiny. 

too bad brain dead leftists like yourself fell for the scam.   


OK  JC   :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 16, 2012, 11:01:56 AM
Its a huge conspiracy started in 1961 and only the birther loon, i mean 3333 is wise enough to see it.

I can picture 333 now in his dark, dingy basement in Brooklyn.  Stained t-shirt, unshaven for days, staring at the wall with thousands of "articles" about Obama and wondering how he can see it so clearly but no one else can.  Meanwhile, furiously posting on getbig to ensure the word gets out while stockpiling emergency kits and weapons for the impending apocalypse that only he sees coming.  

he won't be taken alive...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: kcballer on March 16, 2012, 11:03:55 AM
the medica and leftists are on record protecting obama in 2008 from any scrutiny. 

too bad brain dead leftists like yourself fell for the scam.   

You realize the Clinton campaign would have looked into this right? Bill Clinton disliked Obama as did Hillary.  If there was anything to be found, they would have released it themselves loooooong ago to win the race. 

Oh wait they are in on it to right?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 16, 2012, 12:11:58 PM
really?  Like the LAT holding on to an obama tape w him an Rashid Khalidi they refuse to release?  

Let me guess... if that tape is released and the truth revealed it will lead to cities being burned?  Like you claim about the truth behind The Globe's "evidence".

 ::)

Dumb ass.  Hahahahaha


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 12:32:55 PM
Let me guess... if that tape is released and the truth revealed it will lead to cities being burned?  Like you claim about the truth behind The Globe's "evidence".

 ::)

Dumb ass.  Hahahahaha

Why not own up to the fact that i was right on the docs leaving medicine due to KenyaCare? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 16, 2012, 12:41:30 PM
Why not just be right first?



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2012, 12:56:59 PM
You realize the Clinton campaign would have looked into this right? Bill Clinton disliked Obama as did Hillary.  If there was anything to be found, they would have released it themselves loooooong ago to win the race. 

Oh wait they are in on it to right?

Another common sense outburst like that Mister and I will TURN THIS THREAD AROUND RIGHT NOW!!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
Another common sense outburst like that Mister and I will TURN THIS THREAD AROUND RIGHT NOW!!


Hard to get docs when the person spends 2 million dollars concealing everything.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2012, 01:02:55 PM

Hard to get docs when the person spends 2 million dollars concealing everything.   

Pentagon spends 100's of millions concealing Docs that are leaked out on an almost daily basis... just sayin'


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 01:04:55 PM
Pentagon spends 100's of millions concealing Docs that are leaked out on an almost daily basis... just sayin'

Maybr we can get wikileaks on the case


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2012, 01:20:04 PM
Maybr we can get wikileaks on the case

Okay, back to the issue.. I just have to ask you again, though it's been asked before...

Do you REALLY think that OBAMA is not a US Citizen? That he was able to withstand first the Democrats who were running against him, then the Republicans, to keep it a secret?

I dunno, it just seems that it would have been such a slam dunk that if there were a shred of truth to it any one of those people who had unlimited resources could have proven it... But you still think there is something to it even though no one other than a few core people show interest in it now? 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
Okay, back to the issue.. I just have to ask you again, though it's been asked before...

Do you REALLY think that OBAMA is not a US Citizen? That he was able to withstand first the Democrats who were running against him, then the Republicans, to keep it a secret?

I dunno, it just seems that it would have been such a slam dunk that if there were a shred of truth to it any one of those people who had unlimited resources could have proven it... But you still think there is something to it even though no one other than a few core people show interest in it now? 

I dont know what the exact truth is, but i have little or no faith in the forgeries and frauds put forth by obama. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2012, 01:27:27 PM
I dont know what the exact truth is, but i have little or no faith in the forgeries and frauds put forth by obama. 

as I said before.. there was a vetting process, there was ample opportunity for ANYONE to prove Obama was not a US citizen before he was elected. If he is not legally a US Citizen then shame on us for not doing our due diligence and we eat it until re-election time. He ain't much worse than the last US citizen we had for president


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2012, 09:31:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9H45XI4wxw


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: _bruce_ on March 21, 2012, 06:59:22 AM
Hussein won't recover.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 21, 2012, 07:09:16 AM
Why this is on the conspiracy board is beyond me especially when all of the FACTS have been have been presented. This in no way shape or form does this constitute a conspiracy. The only conspiracy is the left wing media not reporting this.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 21, 2012, 07:41:25 AM
Why this is on the conspiracy board is beyond me especially when all of the FACTS have been have been presented. This in no way shape or form does this constitute a conspiracy. The only conspiracy is the left wing media not reporting this.

Sure about that?

Here's a list of the news outlets who reported it:

    ABC News
    ABS CBN
    Alamogordo Daily News
    Alaska Dispatch
    Albany Times Union
    All Voices
    Arizona Daily Star
    Arizona Daily Sun
    Arizona Republic
    Atlantic Wire
    Austin 360
    AZ Central
    AZ Family
    Asheville (NC) Citizen-Times
    Associated Press
    Atlanta Journal Constitution
    Australian Eye
    Baltimore Sun
    BCS
    Belleview News Democrat
    Bellingham Herald
    BET
    Biz Journals
    Bloomington Pantagraph
    Boston.com (owned by NY Times)
    Bradenton Herald
    Broadcast Newsroom
    Business Insider
    Canada Free Press
    Care2.com
    Calgary Sun
    Camp Verde Bugle
    Capitol Hill Blue
    Carlisle Sentinel
    Catholic Online
    CBS News
    Centre Daily Times
    Charlotte Observer
    Chicago Mag
    Chicago Reader
    Chicago Sun Times
    Chicago Tribune
    Christian Post
    Cineplex
    College News
    Color Lines
    Cypress Times
    Courthouse News Service
    Daily Beast
    Daily Caller
    Daily Herald
    Daily Mail (UK)
    Deseret News
    Detroit Daily News
    Democratic Underground
    Denver Post
    Digital Journal
    Duluth Weekly
    East Valley Tribune
    Economic Times
    El Paso Inc
    Emirates
    Eurasia Review
    Examiner.com
    Fort Worth Star Telegram
    Fox News
    Fresno Bee
    Fronteras
    Gather.com
    Global Grind
    Greenfield Daily Reporter
    Guardian (UK)
    Herald Times Reporter
    Hill, The
    Hispanically Speaking News
    Honolulu Star-Advertiser
    Hot Air
    Houma Courier
    Indian Express
    International Business Times
    Journal Register
    KAAL
    KATV
    KENS
    KGW
    KHOU
    KING
    KLTV
    KMPH
    KOWB
    KPHO (Phoenix)
    KPNX
    KSWT
    KTAR
    KVVU
    KXL
    KYMA
    Las Vegas Review-Journal
    Lexington herald Leader
    Longview Daily News
    Lubbock (TX) Online
    Macomb Daily
    Macon Telegraph
    Main Justice
    Maximum Edge
    Media Matters for America
    Mediate
    Merced Sun-Star
    Metro (UK)
    Miami Herald
    Mid Columbia Tri City Herald
    Minneapolis Star
    Mobile Tribune
    Monterrey County Herald
    Moriches Daily
    MSN Money
    MSNBC
    MyFox Los Angeles
    Myrtle Beach Online
    National Post
    National Review
    Navajo Post
    National Public Radio
    NBC San Diego
    NECN
    New American
    Nerdvana
    New York Daily News
    New York Post
    New York Times
    Newsday
    News Banner (Louisiana)
    News OK
    News On 6
    News One
    News Sentinel
    news Tribune
    News 10 (NBC)
    Newser
    NOLA
    North Cable News
    North County Times
    Northern Voices
    Official Wire
    Ology
    Op Ed News
    Oshkosh Northwestern
    Outcome Magazine
    Phoenix New Times
    Police News
    Policy Mic
    Politic 365
    Quad City Times
    Reno Gazette Journal
    Republic, The
    Root, The
    Royal Oak Daily Tribune
    Sacramento Bee
    San Francisco Chronicle
    San Jose Mercury News
    Seattle Post Intelligencer
    Seattle Times
    SF Weekly
    Slate Magazine
    Sonoran News
    Spokesman Review
    State Column
    State, The (SC)
    Stir, The
    STL Today
    Sun Herald
    Sunday Zaman
    Tbo.com
    Tecca
    Think Progress
    Toronto Sun
    Town Hall
    Tri Valley Central
    Truth Dive
    Tucson Citizen
    Tucson Weekly
    TVNZ
    U-T San Diego
    United Press International (UPI)
    Ventura County Star
    Verde Independent
    Washington Post
    Washington Times
    Wausau Daily Herald
    WHBL
    WHNS
    Wizbang
    WorldNetDaily
    WBOC
    WBRC
    WCNC
    WFAA
    WFIE
    WHBL
    WIS
    Wisconsin Rapids Tribune
    WNEM
    WNYT
    WPTV
    WRAL
    WRCB
    WSHM
    WTAM
    WTOP
    WTSP
    Yahoo
    York Daily Record
    York Dispatch
    13 ABC Action News


Why aren't they continually reporting it?  Because the CCP case is bunk.  These questions among others can help to see why

Just some UNANSWERED questions:   ;D

What are the names the credentials of the “computer graphics experts” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s (CCP) methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document? 

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What are the names the credentials of the “forensic document examiners” who validated the Cold Case Posse’s methodology.

Have any of them ever testified in court about the authenticity of a document?

Why were these not disclosed at the press conference for reporters to interview?

What computer software and settings were used for the optimization comparisons between the “control” document and the White House document?

Was it the same software used by the White House, and if not why not?

Why was this essential question glossed over in the lengthy presentation?

Was Jerome Corsi deputized by Maricopa County, or did he sign an affidavit under oath and penalty of perjury as to his examination of files at the National Archives? If not, why not?

Has WorldNetDaily agreed to sign Joe Arpaio on as a commentator for WND?

Did WorldNetDaily, Jerome Corsi, or Joseph Farah contribute funds to the CCP?
   

John Woodman, the author of a book analyzing claims about Obama birth certificate images, offered on two occasions to assist the CCP. Why was he ignored?

What is the name, and what is the investigative report into the truthfulness of the person who claimed Obama was a foreign student playing in Bill Ayers yard?

Why was Jerome Corsi, a nationally-known anti-Obama partisan, invited to speak at the Press Conference?

Why did the CCP use a computer-generated birth certificate simulation as their “control” document rather than a real birth certificate on real security paper?
   
Did the CCP contact the US Postal service regarding the date stamp on the Selective Service application? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP contact Selective Service regarding the Obama Selective Service application?If so what was their response, and if not, why not?

Did the CCP contact the White House and request physical access to the President’s long-form birth certificate? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Did the CCP consult with Arizona’s own Vital Records agency on matters of document generation? If so what was their response, and if not, why not?
   
Why were the CCP results delayed until after the Arizona Primary, and why were they leaked to Republican Candidate Rick Santorum in advance unless they were politically motivated?
   
What exactly was the role of Mara Zebest in the production of the CCP report?

What exactly was the role of Jerome Corsi in the production of the CCP report?
   
Why was Mark Gillar, a well-known anti-Obama partisan, chosen to narrate the six short videos that constituted most of the posse’s presentation?

Why were the videos posted to Gillar’s “TeaPartyPowerHour” YouTube account, the links to which were included in the sheriff’s press release? And did Gillar help make the videos as well?
 
Was CCP leader Mark Zullo one of the Surprise, Arizona Tea Party signers of the petition that started the investigation?

Why was the page (linked to by WND) on the Surprise Tea Party web site describing the event scrubbed?
   
Did all CCP members agree to the findings? Why were none of the others introduced at the Press Conference?




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 21, 2012, 07:47:24 AM
Here's more:

http://www.usatoday.com/video/computer-expert-examines-arpaio-birther-documents/1484305946001 (http://www.usatoday.com/video/computer-expert-examines-arpaio-birther-documents/1484305946001)

"When I first saw it it was very convincing until we did our test and saw that, wait a minute, our scanner does the same thing."

from Ken Colburn founder and CEO of Data Doctors Computer Services & Data Forensics Labs had his technical staff look at the White House birth certificate PDF.


Sorry guys, the CCP is using your hate and ignorance about things like this to sell their book.  that's the conspiracy here.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 01:54:04 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-tons-more-shocking-obama-info/?cat_orig=us



Sheriff Joe Arpaio“America’s toughest sheriff” says there is “tons” more potentially shocking information on Barack Obama in connection with his probe into the president’s eligibility, and he calls the media’s suppression of his findings of a likely forged presidential birth certificate and Selective Service Card “probably the biggest censorship blackout in the history of the United States.”

“I’m not going after the president to keep him off a ballot or anything else, but that could happen,” Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio said. “I’m going at it strictly as a law-enforcement guy investigating a possible forgery and fraud. I’m sticking with that, but I’ll tell you one thing. We got tons of other information that could be very shocking, too, but I’m sticking now with just the [forgery] investigation and possible criminal violations.”


The lawman from Maricopa County made the comments March 16 on a national radio show hosted by Roger Hedgecock. (Scroll down for video.)

Follow all the future developments in this story – sign up for WND’s email news alerts right now!

As WND reported March 1, Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse announced there is probable cause indicating the documents released by the White House last April purported to be Obama’s original, long-form birth certificate and Selective Service registration card are actually forgeries.

Read the preliminary findings of Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigation.

He stressed on the radio show his original intent with the posse was to put to rest all the claims suggesting Obama was not meeting the constitutional requirements to hold the presidency.

“I told these guys, ‘I want you to do a good job. I hope we clear the president,’” he explained. “I said give me the microfiche in Hawaii to show that he was born in that hospital. Give us the microfiche. I said that six months ago. And that would clear everything up. But as we went into it with an open mind, now we’re coming to a conclusion that we may have some forged documents revolving around this situation.”

When asked about making an arrest, Arpaio said, “We’re trying to identify any alleged forger. We haven’t done that yet. … I’m not blaming the president, but if they’re forged, someone has to be responsible for doing that.”

The sheriff also said that on Friday, he made a decision about where to send Obama’s Selective Service Card in order to have that agency “help us or do an independent investigation.”

“We have nothing to hide. We’re bringing it to their attention, and see what happens,” Arpaio said. “My problem is, there’s a lot of conflicts out here to get somebody to look into this. [Regarding] the media … this is probably the biggest censorship blackout in the history of the United States. When I go to the toilet, I make it in national news. … I just can’t believe the media, including the cable media blocking this thing out.”

Arpaio did not specify the agency to which he sent his information and request for assistance, and when he was asked by Hedgecock if it were the U.S. Selective Service System, the sheriff responded:

“I guess common sense would be to send it to them. The Selective Service director is appointed by the president. … They only have 136 employees in the whole organization. I presume if I did that, what do you think they’re gonna to do with it? The director [Lawrence Romo] who was appointed from San Antonio, Texas, eight months into the Obama administration, what do you think he’s gonna do? He’s probably gonna call some guy at the White House if he can get up to the chief of staff to ask some advice, and then what are they gonna do? Give it to the attorney general? I don’t know. … So I’m fighting big battles here.”


Arpaio made special note about the issue of Obama’s possibly forged Selective Service Card.

“We had a press conference. A lot of people came. They were snickering, trying to embarrass me, [saying] this is a pony show trying to get publicity,” he said. “However, when we showed the Selective Service Card on the screen, you could hear a pin drop.”

Though Arpaio did not focus on Obama’s Social Security Number at his news conference, WND has also reported the president may be using a fraudulent number, another important piece of information the national news media continue to suppress.

The Arpaio findings are not the only items the media are refusing to cover. As WND reported yesterday, a full-blown cover-up appears to be taking place in connection with WND’s disclosure about a retired U.S. postman who has signed a sworn affidavit suggesting Obama was a foreign-born student who was receiving financial help to go to Harvard from the parents of domestic terrorist Bill Ayers.

See excerpts of WND’s interviews with mailman Allen Hulton:

Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse began its investigation in August after 250 members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party, presented a signed petition asking him to undertake the investigation. The tea partiers indicated if a forged birth certificate had been used to place Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.

NOTE: In case you missed the news conference of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse,” you can view it here.

Then last December, Obama’s Justice Department held its own news conference to claim Arpaio’s office committed civil-rights violations against Hispanics, including racial profiling and heavy-handed immigration patrols based on racially charged complaints.

When asked about that during Friday’s radio show, Arpaio said, “They want to control my organization, [imposing] monitors and everything else. I’m not gonna go for that. So I guess they’ll sue me and we’ll go to court and put the real facts out. The real facts that they’re going to have to come up with including all their so-called witnesses that they won’t identify. They won’t give us anything.”


http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-tons-more-shocking-obama-info/?cat_orig=us



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9H45XI4wxw


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 02:15:39 PM
Sheriff Arpaio requests investigation into President Obama's 1980 registration card (Draft Card)
KTAR News/Talk Radio ^ | 3-21-2012 | Newsroom





Sheriff Arpaio requests investigation into President Obama's 1980 registration card
by KTAR Newsroom (March 21st, 2012 @ 10:52am)

PHOENIX -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has sent a letter to the Director of the U.S. Selective Service System headquarters in Arlington, Virginia requesting the agency to conduct an investigation into Barack Obama's Selective Service registration form from 1980.

This comes after the preliminary findings of Arpaio's six- month investigation that determined it may a forgery.

The letter also asks for an original form so forensic document examiners can analyze the document for authenticity.

Apraio claims he is just doing his job, and isn't targeting the president.

"I'm not accusing anyone right now of any violation of law," Arpaio said. "However when you look at the birth certificate and the selective service form I think there's pretty good evidence that there's a possible forgery."

Arpaio is asking for a response within 30 days. If no response is given, he will then decide if his office will move forward with its own investigation.

"While my office will continue pursuing this investigation, I have spoken of the need to enlist the aid of other agencies," Arpaio said. "As a first step to that end, I am now requesting the assistance of the U.S. Selective Service System asking them to conduct a concurrent investigation to verify the authenticity of this document."




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
http://www.mcso.org/MultiMedia/PressRelease/Director%20Romo%20Final.pdf


Ha ha ha ha - the noose is tightening. 



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 21, 2012, 05:51:49 PM
Nope.  no one with any credibility is on board with this.  nothing will happen, nothing will become of it as it stands.


Buy the book yet?   :D


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 06:00:59 PM
Nope.  no one with any credibility is on board with this.  nothing will happen, nothing will become of it as it stands.


Buy the book yet?   :D


He sent it to the agency.   Let's see their response.   


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 21, 2012, 06:18:41 PM

He sent it to the agency.   Let's see their response.   

sure, but don't get your hopes up.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 30, 2012, 02:05:25 AM
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Feds refuse to release Obama draft docs to Sheriff Joe
WND ^ | March 27, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on March 29, 2012 12:08:45 AM EDT by Smokeyblue

The Selective Service System has declined Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s request to see the original copy of Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration form.

Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigating Obama’s eligibility announced at a March 1 press conference that it believes there is probable cause that the registration is fraudulent.

A three-sentence March 22 letter written on behalf of Selective Service Director Lawrence G. Romo, however, dismissed the request.

“This Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic,” wrote Richard S. Flahavan, associate director of public & intergovernmental affairs

Apparently refusing to take seriously Arpaio’s investigation, Flahavan referred the sheriff to the FBI.

“However, if you have any credible evidence to the contrary and believe that a Federal crime has been committed, we suggest that it be turned over immediately to the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pursue,” Flahavan said.

In response, Arpaio yesterday sent a second letter to Romo, requesting clarification.

“If your office has the original, authentic Selective Service registration form for Barack Obama from July 29, 1980, please indicate whether or not you are in possession of this document,” Arpaio wrote.

“If the document is in your possession, please make it available for inspection by my Sheriff’s Office investigators. We will travel to your facility to analyze it.”

Apraio gave Romo 10 days to respond.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 30, 2012, 02:40:21 PM

He sent it to the agency.   Let's see their response.   
ROTFLMAO!  (as if it was any kind of surprise lol)

In a letter dated March 22, Richard S. Flahavan, Associate Director of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs with the Selective Service System responded to Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s request for an investigation of Obama’s selective service registration. Flahavan wrote:

    This Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic. However, if you have any credible evidence to the contrary and believe that a Federal crime has been committed, we suggest that it be turned over immediately to the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pursue.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 30, 2012, 02:43:27 PM
 ???    Yeah.  Eric holder will be right on that one, right after we get to the bottom of fast an furious.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 30, 2012, 02:44:35 PM
???    Yeah.  Eric holder will be right on that one, right after we get to the bottom of fast an furious.

yeah, what ever, back the issue....

What was their response?


Exactly what i fucking said it would be. 

Next.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on March 30, 2012, 02:45:27 PM
ROTFLMAO!  (as if it was any kind of surprise lol)

In a letter dated March 22, Richard S. Flahavan, Associate Director of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs with the Selective Service System responded to Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s request for an investigation of Obama’s selective service registration. Flahavan wrote:

    This Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic. However, if you have any credible evidence to the contrary and believe that a Federal crime has been committed, we suggest that it be turned over immediately to the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pursue.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 03, 2012, 05:50:27 PM
ARPAIO TO DOJ: “I WILL NOT SURRENDER MY OFFICE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT”
Teaparty.org ^ | 4/3/12 | Joe Arpaio
Posted on April 3, 2012 6:57:56 PM EDT by Nachum

DOJ TO SHERIFF ARPAIO: “MONITOR ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY”

ARPAIO TO DOJ: “I WILL NOT SURRENDER MY OFFICE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT”

(Phoenix, AZ) A series of meetings between representatives for Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the U.S. Department of Justice were slated to begin tomorrow to discuss ways to resolve allegations of racial profiling by Sheriff’s employees.

But hours before the first meeting, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Roy Austin of the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division called Arpaio’s attorneys with an ultimatum. Austin stated that it was absolutely mandatory for the Sheriff’s Office to agree to have an outside monitor otherwise there is no reason for further meetings.

Appointment of an outside monitor essentially usurps the powers and duties of an elected Sheriff and transfers them to a person or group of persons selected by the federal government. Every policy decision, every operation, every new program in the jails and in enforcement, virtually everything would have to be approved by the monitor, nullifying the authority of the elected Sheriff and eviscerating the will of the citizens of Maricopa County.

“I am the constitutionally and legitimately elected Sheriff and I absolutely refuse to surrender my responsibility to the federal government. And so to the Obama administration, who is attempting to strong arm me into submission only for its political gain, I say, ‘This will not happen, not on my watch!’”

(Excerpt) Read more at teapartyorg.ning.com ...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on April 03, 2012, 06:19:24 PM
It probably will happen, either way Sherriff joe and his cold case posse have done a great job making themselves the laughing stock of anyone with a half a brain.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 03, 2012, 07:36:43 PM
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Sheriff Joe expands Obama probe to Hillary supporters
WND ^ | April 3, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on April 3, 2012 10:43:51 PM EDT by Smokeyblue

Based on interviews WND conducted with insiders in Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign, Sheriff Joe Arpaio has decided to expand the scope of his law enforcement investigation into President Obama’s eligibility to include evidence and affidavits documenting alleged criminal activity by the Obama campaign in the 2008 Democratic Party primary race.

Hollywood film producer Bettina Viviano and Hollywood-based digital photographer Michele Thomas have given Arpaio’s investigators the names of dozens of Hillary Clinton supporters willing to come forward with evidence and affidavits. Among their claims is that the Clintons were the first to charge Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution and that his birth certificate is a forgery.

Moreover, the Hillary supporters identified by Viviano and Thomas have argued that the pattern of questionable and possibly illegal activity suggests that the alleged act of producing forged birth certificate documentation for Obama may have been merely more of the same.

As WND reported, Viviano claims she heard Bill Clinton say that Obama is not eligible to be president.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Option D on April 04, 2012, 09:11:32 AM
So what happened with the investigation.. is it being considered


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on April 04, 2012, 09:31:15 AM
So what happened with the investigation.. is it being considered


In a letter dated March 22, Richard S. Flahavan, Associate Director of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs with the Selective Service System responded to Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s request for an investigation of Obama’s selective service registration. Flahavan wrote:

    This Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic. However, if you have any credible evidence to the contrary and believe that a Federal crime has been committed, we suggest that it be turned over immediately to the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pursue.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 04, 2012, 04:58:22 PM
IF everything claimed about Obama is true.. This Sheriff and his group are the last ones you want trying to prove it. Zero credibility..


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 09, 2012, 03:26:12 PM
Here's some free advice.   Clean the shit off your face.  Try not to make this mistake again.

Bye!


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 01, 2012, 10:12:56 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/joe-arpaio-to-release-new_n_1467370.html?ref=topbar


Awesome - sheriff show holding another press conference soon and says he has more data and validation in the SS fraud obama committed. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Option D on May 01, 2012, 02:00:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/joe-arpaio-to-release-new_n_1467370.html?ref=topbar


Awesome - sheriff show holding another press conference soon and says he has more data and validation in the SS fraud obama committed. 

lol...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on May 01, 2012, 04:38:28 PM

Yep sheriff Joe is a great American HEHEHEHEHEHHEEHEHHEH

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/sheriff_joe_arpaio_evidence_crime_thomas.php (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/sheriff_joe_arpaio_evidence_crime_thomas.php)

There are times when Sheriff Joe Arpaio has seemed untouchable. In his nearly 20 years in office, he has survived political challenges, court judgments and criminal investigations.

But a ruling filed last week by an arm of the Arizona Supreme Court could prove to be a road map to the Republican lawman’s undoing.

A three-person disciplinary panel of the state’s high court said there was enough evidence to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt” that the sheriff and three of his closest allies participated in what the panel believes was federal crime in December 2009.

The alleged crime doesn’t stem from battles over immigration, pink underwear or any of the other things that have made Arpaio famous. Instead, it deals with a feud among local government officials in which the panel said the sheriff and his allies took things way too far.

The ruling was the result of almost two years of investigation by the State Bar of Arizona as well as two months of sworn testimony, including from Arpaio himself, in front of the Supreme Court’s disciplinary panel last year.

The panel looked at whether the two prosecutors, former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas and his aide Lisa Aubuchon, violated ethics rules as part of the feud with local government officials in the county. During the melee, Thomas and Arpaio launched criminal investigations into at least 14 people they were doing battle with, largely over budget issues.

Investigators with the US Justice Department appear to be focusing on the same feud as part of their ongoing criminal investigation into Arpaio’s office. The Arizona Republic reported on Sunday that FBI agents teamed up with state ethics investigators during the probe.

Through a spokesman, Arpaio declined on Tuesday to talk about the feud because some of it was also the subject of lawsuits.

Last week, the Supreme Court’s disciplinary panel decided unanimously that Thomas and Aubuchon had violated enough ethics rules that they should lose their law licenses. But the panelists also made it clear in their 247-page ruling that they believed the sheriff was very much at the center of the wrongdoing. Arpaio’s name appeared 48 times in the document.

Part of the ruling focused on a Dec. 8, 2009 meeting that involved the two prosecutors, the sheriff and his No. 2 man, Chief Deputy David Hendershott.

They were meeting to discuss what to do about Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Gary Donahoe, who was scheduled to hold a hearing the next day about whether the prosecutors should be allowed to continue investigating their fellow county officials. The foursome were afraid, according to the ruling, that Donahoe would rule against them.

During testimony before the panel, Arpaio’s longtime chief deputy said the sheriff was the one who first came up with the idea of charging the judge with a crime to force him off the case. The others agreed, Hendershott said. The next day, the prosecutors filed a criminal charges against the judge, accusing him of bribery, obstruction of justice and hindering a prosecution.

The prosecutors brought the charges “without a shred of evidence that Donahoe had committed any crime,” the ruling said. Starting on page 216, it revealed even more:

    The evidence clearly and convincingly suggests that Mr. Thomas and Ms. Aubuchon, together with Chief Deputy Hendershott and Sheriff Arpaio, met on December 9, 2008, (sic) with the intention of stopping Judge Donahoe from issuing a ruling at a hearing scheduled the next day by filing criminal charges against him. That evidence is detailed in full throughout this opinion. Perhaps most telling, however, is the testimony of Sergeant Brandon Luth, who recounted Hendershott’s and Aubuchon’s reactions upon learning that the hearing had been vacated after the direct complaint against Judge Donahoe had been filed. Sgt. Luth testified that Aubuchon “looked pleased” when she mentioned to Sgt. Luth that the hearing had been cancelled. In addition, Sgt. Luth testified that when he handed the direct complaint to Mr. Hendershott and informed him that the hearing had been vacated, Mr. Hendershott uttered the word “checkmate.” This, together with all the evidence, clearly and convincingly suggests that Mr. Thomas and Ms. Aubuchon conspired to muzzle Judge Donahoe.

    Were this a criminal case, we are confident that the evidence would establish this conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt.

That plot, according to the panel, was a violation of federal law, specifically one that “makes it a crime to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten or intimidate any person in the free exercise or enjoyment of a right or privilege secured to him by the US Constitution.”

The judge clearly fell into that category, the panel’s ruling said.

The charges against Donahoe were later thrown out by another judge. Similarly, Arpaio’s investigations of the other 13 county officials he targeted also fell apart, often due to a lack of evidence or rulings that the alleged crimes had taken place so long ago that they were past the point when they could be charged.

The targets of the investigations included all five members of the county Board of Supervisors, three other judges, the county’s top two appointed officials, a high-ranking attorney for the county and two private lawyers.

Thomas charged two of the supervisors with crimes during the feud. Those charges were eventually tossed as well.

Thomas and Aubuchon have denied wrongdoing in the case. Thomas said last week he continues to be the victim of a witch hunt designed to allow corruption to continue in Maricopa County. Aubuchon appealed her disbarment this week and Thomas is expected to do the same soon.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on May 01, 2012, 04:41:06 PM
Hell of a guy!  Straight shooter he is!  Believe everything he says:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/sheriff-joe-releasing-more-on-obama-attacks-begin/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/sheriff-joe-releasing-more-on-obama-attacks-begin/)

“I have no intention of resigning,” said Arpaio, who is running for his sixth term as sheriff of Maricopa County. “They forget I have a four-decades long career in federal law enforcement that includes having been a special agent for the FBI and having worked for the Drug Enforcement Agency in the United States, as well as in Argentina, Turkey and Mexico.”

Joe was never an FBI agent.  HEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHE


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 02, 2012, 11:06:10 AM
Surely someone can defend his honesty in the face of such blatant lies.

Anyone?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 08, 2012, 09:53:33 AM
The question of President Obama's draft card: Has evidence been destroyed?
 Washington Times ^ | May 07, 2012 | Alan Jones

Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:53:18 PM by Smokeyblue

Changes in the wording of Selective Service System record-keeping requirements, made days after the opening of an investigation into the alleged forgery of President Barack Obama’s selective service registration form, raise serious questions about U.S. Government intentions.

The new rules allow existing copies of documents that may be sought by investigators to be destroyed.

The Selective Service System’s new privacy rules were published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, September 20, 2011, four days after the September 16 announcement by World Net Daily that the Maricopa County (Arizona) Sheriff’s Office “Cold Case Posse” was opening an inquiry with full subpoena power into alleged forgery of several documents concerning Obama’s birth and draft registration.

The new rules, which constitute the first update to Selective Service System privacy regulations in eleven years, were published under the title, “Privacy Act of 1974; Publication of Notice of Systems of Records.”

Ongoing controversy surrounding allegations that some of Obama’s personal identification documents and records, including his Selective Service draft registration form, are forgeries came into sharp focus seven months ago. The “Cold Case Posse,” under the leadership of Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio, opened an inquiry in response to those allegations.

“This is a full-fledged criminal investigation,” Michael Zullo, lead investigator, told Communities @WashingtonTimes.

“Sheriff Arpaio sent two written requests in March to the Selective Service System requesting President Obama’s draft registration records. Selective Service System officials responded to Arpaio in writing, but did not turn over any of President Obama’s registration records.”

“We believe they are stonewalling,” Zullo added. "In their latest reply letter to the Sheriff, they do not comment on, or even allude to, the microfilm being available to inspect."


(Excerpt) Read more at communities.washingtonti mes.com ...


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 09, 2012, 06:59:44 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/t/story/justice-dept-plans-sue-ariz-sheriff-arpaio-16314952#.T6rqt-iJcgo




Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on May 10, 2012, 07:47:21 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/t/story/justice-dept-plans-sue-ariz-sheriff-arpaio-16314952#.T6rqt-iJcgo



They should.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
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Sheriff Joe demands Obama draft registration
WND ^ | May 10, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on May 10, 2012 9:41:05 PM EDT by Seizethecarp

Providing proof that Sheriff Joe Arpaio intends to continue his investigation of President Obama’s eligiblity, his Cold Case Posse has pressed the director of the Selective Service System not to destroy any microfilm records that may yet exist of Obama’s 1980 draft registration form.

In an emergency letter Wednesday to Selective Service System Director Lawrence Romo, Mike Zullo, the lead investigator in the Cold Case Posse, asked for reassurance that the microfilm records still exist.

“We would like to be assured of the disposition of the microfilm reel or reels containing President Obama’s Selective Service registration form,” Zullo wrote. “Please indicate whether or not you have possession of the microfilm reel or reels containing President Obama’s records or access to them.”

The concerns were raised after Arpaio’s office received official confirmation from the Selective Service System that Obama’s paper draft registration records have been destroyed after being microfilmed.

Zullo’s letter gave Romo 10 business days within receipt of the letter to respond.

Romo, who was appointed director to the U.S. Selective Service System in 2009 by President Obama, reports directly to the president.

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Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Option D on May 11, 2012, 05:32:07 AM
So where we at with this... Obama been found out yet... or is this yet another useless thread?


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
So where we at with this... Obama been found out yet... or is this yet another useless thread?

20+ pages of 333 crying.  What do you think it is?  Yeah... another useless thread.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Archer77 on May 11, 2012, 05:39:29 PM
This butthole Sheriff is only trying to distract people from his own behavior. 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 21, 2012, 07:10:38 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/hawaii-five-o-sheriff-joe-sends-detectives-to-honolulu




Sweet! 


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: tu_holmes on May 21, 2012, 09:40:08 PM
You know an Arizona Sheriff has absolutely ZERO authority in Hawaii.

How can you just give this guy any credit at all just because he's after Obama? You and I both know that Cops are some of the biggest liars on the planet, but you hate Obama so much that you are willing to allow this guy to do whatever he wants?

That's not cool dude.

Not cool at all.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 22, 2012, 06:06:33 AM
Regarding the Hawaii Department of Health, Arpaio noted he’s said since the beginning of the investigation last fall, “Show me the microfilm.”

“They won’t do that, so it looks like they’re hiding something,” he said.

Every week I'll wager Arapaio's office recieves requests for records and I would wager every week the requester is told no, that they must file an open records request before the information will be considered for release....
Does it look like they are hiding something then?

   



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 22, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
Arizona deputies in Hawaii seeking Obama birth certificate
 Star-Advertiser ^ | May 21, 2012 | Star-Advertiser staff

Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:56:20 AM by Brown Deer

Two men who identified themselves as being from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office in Phoenix went to the Hawaii Department of Health Monday morning requesting verification of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, said a state spokeswoman.

A Hawaii deputy attorney general gave the men information concerning the legal requirements to obtain such a document; the requirements are posted on the Health Department's website. The two men then left the office, Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

The two men showed Maricopa County Sheriff's Office badges and identified themselves as Michael Zullo and Brian Mackiewcz, Okubo said. They are "authorized by the Sheriff of Maricopa County, who is conducting an official investigation," a spokesman for the sheriff's office said in an email.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been researching Obama's residency status using a volunteer cold-case "posse," but now has employed a taxpayer-funded deputy, The Arizona Republic reported Monday.

Zullo is a volunteer, the Republic reported, but Okubo said that Mackiewicz presented a business card showing he is with the Threats Management Unit of the sheriff's office.

Arapaio's birth certificate investigation comes as the U.S. Justice Department is suing his office for alleged civil rights violations, including discrimination against Hispanics.

Separately, Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett, who says he is not a "birther," said in a radio interview Thursday that Obama's Arizona ballot status is in question unless Hawaii responds positively to his request under a Hawaii law regarding confirmation of birth certificates.

Hawaii Department of Attorney General spokesman Josh Wisch said Monday the department has been in touch with Bennett since Friday and that he would need to provide legal authority showing his office is "a governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency's or organization's activities."

Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. Birthers contend Obama was not born in the United States and thus not eligible to be president. The state released a copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate last year, but the release did not satisfy many birthers.

Bennett, a Republican who is reportedly considering a run for governor in Arizona, said Friday he assumes he'll get the confirmation he requested in March from Hawaii officials.



Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on May 22, 2012, 02:57:05 PM
Roflmao.


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: OzmO on May 22, 2012, 05:11:09 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Its good to know at least most of the people in AZ aren't ignorant racists. 

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_apologizes_obama_birther_hawaii_arizona.php (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_apologizes_obama_birther_hawaii_arizona.php)

After days of ridicule for launching a conspiracy theory-fueled investigation into Barack Obama’s birth certificate, Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett on Tuesday backed off his threat to keep the president off the ballot in November and apologized to his state.
RELATED: Emails Show How Hawaii Stiffed Arizona Secretary Of State’s Birther Investigation

“If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasn’t my intent,” Bennett said in an interview with Phoenix radio station KTAR. “He’ll be on the ballot as long as he fills out the same paperwork and does the same things that everybody else has.”

Bennett said he still intends to keep asking Hawaii for verification that Obama’s birth certificate is authentic. But he said he only plans to use Hawaii’s answer as a way to satisfy demands from constituents who remain unconvinced Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States and so therefore eligible to be president.

He also said he talked to Hawaii’s attorney general on Monday night and clarified what he is looking to have verified. He said he “reworded” his request and expects to receive a response from Hawaii officials “in the next 24 to 48 hours.”

Last week, Bennett told a different Phoenix radio station it was “possible” he would keep Obama off the state’s ballot in November if Hawaii did not provide him with a satisfactory answers to his investigation.

On Tuesday, Bennett told talk show hosts Mac Watson and Larry Gaydos he had no idea about the wave of criticism he endure get after launching his investigation into the president’s birth certificate. He said again that he doesn’t consider himself a birther and he believes the president was born in Hawaii but he did this to satisfy a small number of vocal people who kept sending him angry emails about it.

“I feel like I was just trying to glue the far little corner of the carpet down,” Bennett said. “And as soon as you just touch the carpet, the whole floor buckles.”


Title: Re: Sheriff Joe to release investigation of Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 04:26:54 PM
Sheriff Joe set to release more Obama 'shockers' Arpaio sched. another news conf. on eligibility
wnd ^ | July 1, 2012 ;58 mins ago
Posted on July 1, 2012 7:16:52 PM EDT by Red Steel

Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse investigating Barack Obama’s presidential eligibility have been promising more major revelations since their March 1 press conference, and now another event has been scheduled to unveil new information.

Arpaio told WND a press conference will be held July 17 at 2:30 p.m. local time at the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office in Phoenix, Ariz.

WND will once again provide live Web streaming of the event.

The evidence will include information gathered in the posse’s recent investigative trip to Hawaii as well as an update on the ongoing investigation.

At the March 1 conference, as WND reported March 1, Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse announced there is probable cause that the document released by the White House in April 2011 purporting to be Obama’s original, long-form birth certificate is a forgery. The posse said it also found probable cause that Obama’s Selective Service registration form is fraudulent.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...